From: Andrew Phelps <math_anxiety@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [withholdapadues] Seligman selected for Wiley Prize in Psychology

To: withholdapadues@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:50 PM

I do not understand your post!  Did I do something to hurt your feelings? 

On Sun, 7/12/09, Mmm wrote:

This is not a list for the vilification of the CIA or any other intelligence agency.  But it does involve a critique of their psychological advocacies, especially when they "do harm."  As a person brought up in that social networking, I've experienced "harm."  Some I can trace clearly to the advocacy of Margaret Mead backing the "culture of national security" that is the moral basis for advocacies such as 1.02.  I can also trace my own experience of "harm" to the advocacy of Christina Maslach which she linked directly to her networking with the Israeli Psychological Warfare unit.  Ariel Merari who was visiting at U.C. Berkeley at the time had been a student of Mark Rosenzweig, an animal behaviorist in the Dept. 

When people speak here about Seligman "not speaking up" about how learned helplessness is used to promote torture, that means that he practices the "discipline of silence" that prevails in the "culture of national security."  People here acknowledge it does not mean the same as taking the political stance of Mitchell and Jessen, but still many find it intrudes on the "do no harm" ethical standard people here expect.  Zimbardo for his part teaches at the Naval Postgraduate School on "the psychology of terrorism."  You could say my concern regarding the "Mossad" is not about some foreign intelligence service, but about how U.S. intelligence engages the practice(s) of foreign intelligence service(s).  To my eyes that is part of the political culture of the U.S. which embraces the 1.02 perspective rather than the "do no harm" perspective. 

Please if you would engage me more gently.  Is there some way you can address in your terms the matter of objectification as a blanket justification for behavior management of people?

Respectfully