Berkeley, 1969
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:47:54 PST
To: "MHOCCA List" <mhocca@egroups.com>
From: "Gerald Minsk" <gminsk2185@aol.com>
Subject: [MHOCCA] Violence and the Mentally Illness
I’ve made this statement repeatedly this week condemning the violence in the Sacramento area, for both cases — the shootings in Nevada City and the suicide at the Capitol, involving the semi truck. Apparently, my comments have either been misunderstood, or perhaps we just have a difference of opinion, which in this country, thank God, we’re still allowed to have.

The acts of violence perpetrated, in both cases, in Nevada City and the Capitol are acts that need to be condemned, and the people responsible, should be held responsible and punished. Society needs to be protected from people like this, and they need to be held accountable. The fact that someone was, is or may be mentally ill does not absolve them from their responsibility for their actions — period. As to there future status with the courts in relationship to mitigating factors, that [is] for the courts, the attorneys and the client.

However, to use the issue of violence and the mentally ill the way Helen Thomson and NAMI are continuing to do is unfair, and just not right. Most people of good will and sound mind understand and believe that the majority of the mentally ill are no more violent then the rest of the population. To manipulate these tragic events, once again, with the media and polarization of the issues of forced treatment, is a disservice and will only lead to more finger pointing; [it] will not address the real issue of access to tolerant, respectful treatment options.

This is the issue. There are arguments to be made from both sides. One could argue the 1.8 billion dollars in forensic mental health is pretty bad, and I’d agree. One might argue this man on a suicide mission, should never been let out of Patton in the first place. Not so sure about that. If you listened to what his parents said on the news last night, he wanted his five mins. of fame, he wanted some attention. He needed someone to talk to.

Well, nobody ever talked to me when I was locked up in maximum security mental health prisons, except for my attorneys, the Rabbi, and the damned screws who used to beat the living daylights out of me to [get me to] take medication, and break me psychologically and spiritually. From my experience as a professional going into the same kinds of facilities, people are being warehoused. What is wanted here? A nation of zombies, and mental health forensic consumers doing life on the installment plan?

The man got out. He was a parolee, he was in violation of his parole for a criminal charge. Want to blame someone? Blame .. how about the Corrections Dept. for not properly monitoring him? Or picking him up on that violation, and putting him back in prison? What you fail to understand or accept is first, there will always be tragic events. Second, we need to rationally look at them in proper prospective: The act of force and fear, will only be effective for so long, and then people will rebel and do the opposite, The trauma and victimization, the fear, will again keep people away, and out of treatment.

Yesterday, it has been learned that a security guard, at the Wingart, multi-service center on skid row, who had employed a private Pinkerton security guard, choked to death someone, on their property. Skid row is a tough place; the security people there are not too open to “harm-reduction training.” The newly elected district attorney, Steve Cooley has empanelled a grand jury, for the May of 99 killing of Margaret Laverne Mitchell accountability.

Could any of these tragic affairs been predicted and kept from happening? As I look into my crystal ball, it’s a bit foggy. What is not though, is we can’t lock-up everybody. Despite what some would like, I’ve seen people in treatment go off, and do very bad things as well as people not in treatment do the same.

My experience on this planet has taught me a little, and one thing is an act of kindness, to open your heart, to be patient and tolerant respectful. This approach to the people we’ve described — I seriously wonder how much of a difference this would have made in their lives. Yes we as a society have a responsibility to act when people can no longer make appropriate decisions. I understand this, my own father has been on a respirator for a solid week right now. But we wait, we pray, respect his wishes, and act responsibly. That’s what is needed right now. Not to act out in the passion of mob-like mentality, because another mentally ill person has committed a terrible act.


There have been over 275 murders this year alone in South Central Los Angeles. Do we put up barricades around that community, place the National Guard on the perimeter, no-one in or out, because of the gangbangers?


I think I made my point. I hope you can appreciate this without any malice, but with respect, and hope that things calm down.

Gerald Minsk




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