Whiskeytown Lake
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:51:14 -0700
To: "MHOCCA List" <mhocca@egroups.com>
From: "Andrew Phelps" <starfish@northcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [MHOCCA] (no subject)

Gerald wrote:
.. who-ever is in charge of this group, it was my understanding that personal attacks, respect and dignity, were part of the deal ..
Dick wrote:
Gerald, we’re all in charge of this group. It is up to each of us to define what is and is not going to be appropriate. I have access to certain tools that I am very reluctant to use. The best thing is for each of us to take responsibility for what we do.
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I don’t quite know what the ‘deal’ is. I think electronic commuication has a mean side to it and I don’t think people readily know how to handle it. Right now I’m running an ‘experiment’ because my CIS class has an Internet discussion list and maybe I/we will learn something about the boundaries of respectful dialogue there. But this list <mhocca> is about a lot more than passing an introductory computer course!

I don’t think putting the burden on Gerald to go and straighten up his affairs with Felicia really cuts it. I mean, it’s cool if he wants to go that route, but in fact many of us are in situations that don’t lend themselves to such resolution. And worse than that NAMI & the system both have agendas to incite us against one another. It’s worth trying to stand up to that but ADMIT IT the general outcome is that most people who want to speak up and say what they feel on a list like this QUIT pretty rapidly or at least go very silent, once they learn what a hard shell seems to be required.

I live a great many miles from the parties involved here and I can’t judge the nuances that clearly, but on the face of it Gerald’s claim that Felicia is needling him/Gae is a concernful one to me. That is to say, I can’t say for sure that what she is saying is “needling,” after all one person’s needling is somebody else’s knitting! But it is surely his business to get concerned about this, and not just to dull his sensitivity to accommodate the situation.

Speaking of distance, I don’t know about ‘secession’ but I do admit to having given a professional talk at the 27th Annual State of Jefferson Math Congress, Whiskeytown Lake [Shasta County], 1997.  :-)

Respectfully

Andrew Phelps