
To: <s-acc@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Andrew Phelps" <starfish@northcoast.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:56:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [s-acc] Re: identity politics
Lmn:
You wrote:
Hi Andrew and others interested (and by this I name others positively, as people with different opinions whose very difference holds the dynamism of this social field)
I'm probably good with most of what you write here. I've certainly studied these matters considerably and engaged them online at length. [!]
Here "identity politics" is a pragmatic way of explaining the mentality of our "second wave" advocacy - that is, of explaining the "bad habit" of ego psychology and control oriented behavior as something we must engage as "lived experience upgrade." My post related to how SAMHSA appears to have lined up with "abuse denial" social dynamic and used the traditional "first wave" approach as a psychological ideal in their overview of the selection of Alternatives workshops.
The question of 'otherness' can be approached from (at least) two philosophical traditions. Painting in very broad strokes, philsophies based on desire for the Same or the Similar (homeostasic repetition) have tended to construct otherness in two interrelated way
The problem is that those regarded as 'less than' either tend to set themselves up as 'more than' in resistance (thus repeating the same awful cycle of defining anyone other to them as less than) or the 'less than' are invited to become the 'same as' and their radical alterity is lost. Is something like this going on in the identity politics in the situation at Anaheim you describe? - that is those othered as 'less than' are welcomed to assert their rights to be the 'same as'. As long as they are the same as ...
Generically, yes, I'd say. But this is the 25th Alternatives and the U.S. is in crisis. Yesterday the country's credit rating was downgraded by Standard and Poor's. Our conversation here relates to the
tactical considerations involved in what we do at (and in regards to) Orlando.There is writing on "identity politics" which is a topic engaged in ethnic politics and elsewhere. Bell Hooks, for instance, has gotten some attention
HERE in that regard.
Best regards
Andrew