From: Andrew Phelps <math_mad@yahoo.com>

To: ClientDiscussions@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Friend

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:41:32 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [Client Discussions] Re: If Mental Health were run like WalMart?

 

Hi

My path led me this way.  Wal-Mart is built around "neocon" economics which involves "ultra" behavior management, torture accommodation and the like.  The "radical alternative" is the behavioral school defined by the Russian psychologist Lev Vygotsky and since best advocated by Vladimir Zinchenko of the Russian Academy of Sciences.  That approach is called ergonomics. 

Of course the Russians had to deal with the "torture problem" of the Gulag but historically Russian psychology was one of the lead philosophical forces opposing the Gulag.  The "Kharkov school" led by Vladimir's father Piotr was a center for intellectual resistance in the 30s; Vygotsky himself "psyched out" the Gulag by dying of TB in 1934 before they could "take him away."

Some years back I had the pleasure of spending a slow evening in a coffee house with Vladimir Zinchenko.  He listened carefully to what I had to say.  I'm pleased to say he told me that I had "a pretty good understanding of the issues."  :-)

Our problem is to "do our homework" and do "behavioral work" in a positive way, as Vygotsky suggested.  That's what I believe sustains the point of view I call "labor competence."

 

Andrew Phelps

 

 

On Mon, 12/22/08, Wvu wrote:

To Nml who wrote "If the public mental health system looked at itself like corporate america we would have gone out of business decades ago" and to others who believe the myth that private business is better run than public ones, read on: