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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:45:21 -0700
To: "Alternatives 2001 List" <alt-2001-planning@dca.net>
From: "Tough Tony" <tuff_tony@hotbot.com>
Subject: Re: the business of this list

I have been perplexed about how to participate in this discussion. I think I really don’t know what I want to see happen at Alternatives 2K+1.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:05:26 Wipkugler wrote:
There may no better venue than “Alternatives” for discussion about work. Right or wrong, we live in a society where people define their identity by what they “do.” Employment (not to mention self-employment) is a vehicle we can all use to define ourselves and create alternatives in the direction of our lives.
This is an example of where I have problems. Previously Linda Andre said something about how the ‘old-timers’ are into human rights and the ‘newbies’ are into employment. Well my problem is that the ‘employment’ commonly comes out as somewhere between indifferent to human rights to being an oppressor of human rights. In 1995 I was the lead organizer of the Jobs Now! conference in the S.F. Bay Area, which turned the fashion to the ‘employment’ side. But what has occurred has been that people get involved in ‘do’ and don’t care any more about what’s DONE. So we “create alternatives in the direction of our lives,” as long as we are better at stepping on other clients than they on us.

I know that’s cynical but excuse me it’s a real worry. Not that everybody’s mean-spirited but I do mean we haven’t concentrated on having it so that employment alternatives are (1) wholesome and (2) consonant with the human rights agendas Linda reminds us of. Something like facing this issue would make sense to me as a topic for Alt. 2K+1. But so far I haven’t seen things written which indicate that people have the stomach for something like this.

Whence, I’m perplexed.

Andrew Phelps