Deep-Sea Scallop
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:11:06 -0700
To: "MHOCCA List" <mhocca@egroups.com>
From: "Andrew Phelps" <starfish@northcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [MHOCCA] Self Help Centers and the Homeless

Xxx, you wrote:
Phil — being dually diagnosed, and working for a dual diagnosis facility, I can tell you that first your attitude is discriminatory, and un-realistic, second ear-marked money, many times dictates what kinds of services have to be available, including the target-population.
The one thing most disturbing are your feelings of fear, and this is genuine ..
Since I know you and I know Phil, I feel you have mis-read him.

People write things in relation to conversations they are involved in. You are involved in working directly with this target population, so you are writing from what it feels like to be working there. Phil is involved in an abstraction, in his county they have out currently an RFP for setting up self-help centers, there is no such thing there on the ground. The people ‘in his conversation’ are the mental health community members in Santa Clara County, and specifically, the bidders, who are providers. [The goal is for them to become temporary fiduciary agents etc. while the clients develop a 501(c)(3) capacity.] Many of the people he is conversant with have discriminatory attitudes and un-realistic ideas. Plus some of the other clients involved are challenged by this level of conversation. But it is unfair to say Phil’s attitude is discriminatory when he is only talking to an audience which has attitude problems. And his ‘feelings of fear’ are really EMPATHY, he’s trying to figure out (knowing Phil) why people with such attitudes have the fears that they do.

Respectfully

Andrew Phelps