by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 07:06:20 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "PC800 group" Subject: PC800: More more Cruise control info... Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:00:28 +1000 That AP50 cruise is NOW at Kmart here, price is $199 oz about $108usa. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:12:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:12:57 EST Subject: PC800: planet honda site... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey lister's! I thought I had found a diamond in the rough! I suppose Not. Sorry for the false hope. I really thought I found a site that had the stuff that was hard to get. I will keep looking for the site/company that has the thing's we most desire for our beloved machines!! L8ter... Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:18:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:18:42 EST Subject: PC800: APB...need Pc800 clipart! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey lister's, I would really appreciate any clipart of the PC. i am working on multiple ideas and suggestions by you all. This would help me greatly, as visually! Thanks... more suggestions please! I am hoping to have "5" designs by mid month. Projected that we will all decide by April 1st and production will commence! Will keep ya posted. Bigger project than I thought! I am dedicated! Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: PC800: non PC. Side car information needed Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:55:38 -0500 I am looking for a fork stabilizers for my hack. Does anyone have knowledge about such a device? How about some of the shimmy devices I have seen on the sport bikes?=20 Could they reduce fork wobble? Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dppc800@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:26:13 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Ordered from Planet Honda To: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I placed an order for the trunk liners and got a phone call the next day. He said the trunk liners are no longer available, and that they needed to update their web site. He apologized for the inconvenience. Dottie Powers 1998 PC800 "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:02:57 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Ordered from Planet Honda Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:01:52 -0600 Rich Fenwick wrote: "The Honda trunk mats (floor mats) aren't available.... Surprise, surprise..." Hey Rich, Why didn't you offer to manufacture some mats for them to market and sell?? Mike Gunderson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:00:22 -0600 "Re: PC800: Living in flames" (Feb 28, 9:16pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Living in flames On the other hand, here in Texas we also get weekends in Februrary like the last one. Highs in the low 70's, lows in the high 40's, clear and sunny. Bicycled my butt off. Of course it's been 40 and raining all week since. I still haven't been able to take my new helmet out for an extended test ride. Revill Driver of the little blue pickup, "pickup". On Feb 28, 9:16pm, Tim Macy wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Living in flames > I lived in Amarillo for three excruciating summers back in the late 70s. I > will concur with Daryl. Sometimes a week would go by where, between my > air-conditioned house, my air-conditioned office, and my air-conditioned > company car I wouldn't have spent more than five minutes in the elements. > > It sucked. I moved. Now I'm happy. I'm a temperate kinda guy. > > ===== > Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:08:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: HJC Helmet Real cheap, used Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:08:52 Any one want a used HJC medium? Its black, full face, SNELL-95. Its about two years old, got a few scratches. Its also got the Fog City shield. Its never been dropped, just looks like it has -- ;-) I just got a nice shiny new Nolan 100 clasic. Best offer gets the HJC. I don't have room to keep three helmets in my closet. I've cleaned it, I think I may still even have the original instruction book around somewhere... Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Flaming/Road Rash Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:01:30 -0500 I remember an article a few years back where they evaluated all of the currently available and typical coverings for their protective aspects. Leather was best by a counrty mile even for super-legal speeds. Some of the synthetics gave varying degrees of protection far less than leather but far more than jeans. Jeans were not worthless, but they gave pretty minimal protection. Better than nekkid, but not by much. I think they measured it in skidding seconds before the material wore out, and jeans were like maybe two seconds. That might not mean anything at 80mph (which sounds like familiar territory for many listers), but it could mean everything at, say 25, which is where many commuters often find themselves. At any rate, 2 seconds is better than the no seconds offered by mere shorts. FWIW. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK [mailto:Emile.Nossin@klm.nl] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:13 AM To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Apology for flaming > From: David Kelly[SMTP:dkelly@hiwaay.net] > I could remember 8 recent cases of road rash on my left forearm. And > none on my denim protected legs. Twice dropped my Kawasaki 100 from > about 30 MPH and got to slide to a stop. > *Anything* is better than nothing. Wore holes in the knees of my jeans > doing other things but never when sliding to a stop on or off road. > That's not to infer my skin didn't get bruised or tender thru the jeans, > as it did. But it never bled. > Well okay, anything is better than nothing, but don't exagerate now. At bicycle speeds wearing jeans still gives you road rash on normal asphalt, at normal motorcycle speeds jeans mean practically nothing... is that more subtle ? ; ) Emile ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:05:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:05:10 EST Subject: PC800: Used underwear available, cheap! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu To me it is the same as a used helmet... Who would want to stick their head in someone else smelly hat? Kinda like used underwear... It might be clean, but would you wear it...? = ) Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id LAA98445478 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "David Kelly" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Helmets Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:27:50 -0800 I probably shouldn't get into this, since it is mostly out of my knowledge base, but here goes. I usually try and purchase a helmet with Snell approval, but I do know that alot of what is required for Snell is not very practical for motorcycle use, some of the test involved being able to take several direct hits in the same place after falling a certain distance and stay intact, it could happen but most impacts will not occur like that. Another test is having to survive being a burning gas fire for a certain period of time. Again, not likely to happen and if you were laying around in a burning gas fire that last thing I would be concern is if my helmet will survive. Even if you took several direct impacts on the same location and then ended up laying in burning gasoline for 20 minutes, I am not sure if I would care if the helmet can survive afterward. I once read through what is involved for Snell approval and how it differs from DOT and at the time I could see each had their good side. They have different ways of testing for impacts and other things (like straps). Snell is the tougher standard for a helmet manufacturer, but from what I read it was because it also had to meet DOT approval Anyway, I will shut up now and return you to your regular scheduled programming. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id LAA128673291 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Helmets Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:31:34 -0800 Yes, helmet manufacturer's have to pay for Snell approval. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > Do manufacturers have to pay for their helmets to get a > Snell certification ? In other words, are there helmets > that might comply with Snell standards but don't have a > certificate because the manufacturer can't or doesn't > want to pay for it ? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:45:34 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "Revill Dunn" Subject: PC800: Snell & flip-front helmets ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:34:42 -0600 >Does anyone know why some open face helmets, like my Shoei ARE Snell approved, >but no flipchins make the grade? Different standards? According to Snell, no manufacturer has submitted a flip-front helmet for Snell testing. Chris Norloff from http://www.smf.org/faqs.html "Why won't Snell certify some types of helmets like flip up front designs? Snell does not dismiss out of hand, any helmet design that strays from the conventional. Snell does not point out any design specifications, other than general requirements in our standards. We are however, always concerned with innovations and new designs that may effect the helmet's ability to protect the wearer, or in some cases the helmets potential to cause injury. At present, the Foundation has not had the opportunity to test any of the flip up front type helmets. So far, we can not find any fault with these designs as long as they are used according to the manufacturers instructions. We will also certify any size of helmet as long as it meets the same requirements as any other Snell certified helmet. " -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:45:34 -0600 From: David Kelly To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Helmets On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 06:17:47AM +0100, Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK wrote: > > From: David Kelly[SMTP:dkelly@hiwaay.net] > > But if you are going to pay attention to the > > stickers then Snell is the only one that means anything. In the US > > that's the only *certification* there is. "DOT approval" is only a > > paperwork exercise. Snell requires destructive testing of real > > production product and many helmets fail yet are still sold with the > > DOT sticker. > > > Do manufacturers have to pay for their helmets to get a > Snell certification ? In other words, are there helmets > that might comply with Snell standards but don't have a > certificate because the manufacturer can't or doesn't > want to pay for it ? Yes, the manufacturer has to pay the Snell-recognized testing laboratory for the tests. Same price, pass or fail. Talking with the testing laboratory who does UL and FCC testing for us at work said the Snell testing was almost the same sort of paperwork and audits as UL and FCC, only it was the Snell Foundation driving the rules. I've never had need to get pricing for helmet testing but on first glance its not as rough as the FCC and UL stuff our products have to go thru. So $10,000 to $20,000 and several examples of every size should be all it takes. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:53:27 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Body Steering vs. Counter Steering Excellent article! thanks. Chris Norloff >elton.hammond@ekho.com writes: >>I noticed this very interesting article about body steering vs. counter >>steering on the Popular Mechanics web site. >> >>http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/out/0102BOODWFAP.html >> >>Just thought I would share it with everyone as it runs counter to everything >>I have known and expected. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id MAA120597627 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: Lighter side of life Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:18:14 -0800 Not to change the subjects, but for a few laughs that are bike related: http://www.rollinmag.com/v1n11/funnies.htm Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:19:27 -0400 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Engine replacement Howdy. if you go to the big Pacific Coast Maint & Repair Log http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and choose the '89 bikes, you'll get a rather large report, at the end of it is a new entry for a guy who bought a bike with a bad engine and replaced it. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:33:27 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Helmets "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" writes: > Do manufacturers have to pay for their helmets to get a > Snell certification ? In other words, are there helmets > that might comply with Snell standards but don't have a > certificate because the manufacturer can't or doesn't > want to pay for it ? In a word, Yes. See: http://www.smf.org/ The following excerpt is from: http://www.smf.org/faqs.html How much does Snell cost and who pays? Snell bills the manufacturer for testing, the acquisition of random samples and for each Snell Certification label that goes into a certified helmet. However, these costs, along with every other production cost, get passed along to you the consumer. Snell Certification Random Prototype Snell Program Test Sample Test Label M2000,Motorcycle $940 $120 $215 $0.50 $0.55 cloth The Snell and NHTSA (DOT) testing methods are slightly different, and despite the Snell folks insistence that their test is more meaningful, I have read articles that argue otherwise. However, what is not in doubt is that DOT is "self-certified", which severely compromises its value as a predictor of helmet performance. In general, it's safe to assume that a Snell helmet is DOT certified, but the converse is not true, although there are undoubtedly some DOT-only helmets that would pass Snell -- and many pieces of junk, such as "welder's yarmulkes" that would not. Snell has a somewhat self-serving comparison with the DOT standard at: http://www.smf.org/articles/dot.html However, if given a choice between wearing a brand new, well-designed DOT-only helmet, such as a Nolan N100, and a 5-year old Snell helmet, I would choose the new one every time. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0827 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:34:14 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: RE: PC800: Body Steering vs. Counter Steering Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:34:13 +0000 Emile, I'm a "heavy dude" and even so don't believe that body lean would substantially change the path of my PC (or a lighter bike, either) at high speed more quickly than I could get a hand or hands back to the bars in an emergency situation. Not that I very often (if ever) have both hands off at high speed in the presence of traffic. Revill, I'm familiar with the way one's mind can compress events and overlook part of what happened. I wonder if in such situations you haven't really used the bars without conscious awareness or memory of it? And the world is well-populated with bikers who use countersteering intuitively and never know that they do. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 Butthead Index: 30.5 Survival Index: 76 > > From: Revill Dunn[SMTP:revill.dunn@legerity.com] > > doing a nice sedate 85 with traffic zipping past ten mph faster, and I > > want to zip up a little. Throttle lock. One hand here, one hand there, > > dammit it's stuck.. Oops; A VW! Look, change lanes, back... > > You've done it too, admit it. But were you countersteering? With what? > > > At 85 mph I have to hang way off the bike and kick it > with my knees real hard to get it to move to another > lane quick enough to avoid fast upcoming traffic. But > I need a lot of lane if I really wanna do that succesfully. > If you're talking about real close encounters there's no > way you can effectively steer fast enough away from > the traffic with weight alone, especially at 85 mph, not > even you. You a heavy dude, Revill ? > > Emile > 145lbs, 6'3" > www.piloot.com > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material > intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified > that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or > distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is > strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by > error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this > message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or > its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission > of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > ********************************************************************** > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G9JDXF02.EFL for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:51:15 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:45:45 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: PC800 specs; KW and original price I'm looking for the following information: - how many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? - what was the original catalogues value (purchase price) for the PC800 in 1989? Thanks, Hans. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 23:47:56 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "Bob Wilson" Cc: "Zahra Johnson" , "Tracy Barrie" , "Susan and Steve Hards" , "Steve Ispas" , "Risteen Associates Ltd" , "Peter Hively" , "PC800 group" , "Marc Nussey" , "Karin Olsson" , "John La" , "Jim Millington" , "Ian McNaughton" , "Hildeand siggi" , "Heather Hartles" , "Hap wood" , "Erin & Chris Ratay" , "Doris Endo" , "Dennis Doo" , "Darrell Gillette" , "Bruce Clarke" Subject: PC800: Motorcycle RULES! Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:39:36 +1000 How to Live with a Neurotic Motorcycle Rule #1: Just because it started and ran fine yesterday doesn't mean = that it'll start today. Rule #2: Never presume to move the car, move the bike, then move the car = back until you have actually tried to start the bike. Under NO = circumstances put on jacket, scarf, boots, helmet and gloves before = verifying that the bike is running and is going to continue running.=20 Rule #3: A fully charged battery is like a delicate lily. Cherish it now = in its full flower, cause it'll die tomorrow for no apparent reason. Rule #4: Always know where your petcock is and how to move it from on to = reserve -- not just while standing, but while cruising down a hill at 50 = mph with the bike choking and surging beneath you. Rule #5: "On" means "prepare to switch to "reserve" at any given = moment." "reserve" means "ha ha, you're stranded." Rule #6: The probability of the bike running out of gas or otherwise = breaking down is inversely proportional to the distance you are from a = gas station or other safe location. Corollary to rule #6: All owners of neurotic motorcycles have permanent = bruises on their calves. Rule #6a: The probability of being able to start your bike on the first = kick is inversely proportional to the number of people watching you. It's even worse if you are trying to impress any of those people. Rule #7: The tiny space between the top of your sock and your pants leg = is always just wide enough to come in contact with the exhaust pipe. Rule #8: You will never remember if that funny whirring noise you = suddenly hear coming from the engine is normal or not. To make sure, = you'll rebuild the engine only to find out that yes, it was normal. Rule #9: There is always one more bolt. And that bolt is not metric. Rule #10: Do not lean the bike over on its sidestand when the sidestand = is not down. Rule #11: Swearing does not help, but it provides amusement for the = neighbors. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com via smtpd (for dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 00:15:09 UT Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle RULES! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:12:45 -0800 22, 2000) at 03/01/2001 04:11:36 PM I personally witnessed this in action this past summer. Cook's Corner in Orange County is a popular stopping point for bikers. This day they were probably at their normal capacity - well over 100 bikes. Some guy had a Norton sitting at the choicest spot tried to strart up his bike, and it wouldn't turn over. This bike was a kick start only bike, and he was huffing and puffing. There had to have been at least 10-15 people near him as he was trying to do this. They were trying everything to get it to kick. I never did see what turned out to be the problem, but that had to have been the best/worst possible place for this to happen. Rule #6a: The probability of being able to start your bike on the first kick is inversely proportional to the number of people watching you. It's even worse if you are trying to impress any of those people. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:55 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle RULES! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu These rules were obviously made by someone who did not ride and enjoy a Honda! Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:32:35 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Used underwear available, cheap! To: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/1/01 9:06:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, HondaPC800Rider@aol.com writes: << Kinda like used underwear... It might be clean, but would you wear it...? = ) >> If Brittney Spears had been wearing it, I would prefer it to be dirty. Very dirty. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:45:33 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A little advice Looking into replacing the spark plugs. Would it make a significant difference in how long they would last if I put in titanium plugs vs. the regular type? It does seem to be quite a bit of trouble getting to them. Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:50:36 EST Subject: Re: PC800: A little advice To: ronrus@webtv.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Took me 9 mins to do all my spark plugs!!!!. Laters -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:53:24 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Motorcycle RULES! Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:52:33 +0100 > From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com[SMTP:HondaPC800Rider@aol.com] > These rules were obviously made by someone who did not ride and enjoy a > Honda! Troy Doyle > Rule #10: Do not lean the bike over on its sidestand when the sidestand is > not down. > I have to admit doing this on the second day of my trip from the south of France to Holland. I however did ride and enjoy my Honda the 3 days after that eventough my ST had instantly become a naked bike because I sheered the windscreen in two when it hit the fuel pump while falling over. I didn't mind with those temperatures.. and it did give me nostalgic feelings about the days I rode with less faired bikes... oh my... did I just say nostalgic ? Just a few more days untill my 27th and I'm already becoming an old fart talking about the good ol' days... what is happening to me ? Must be spring or so... I had a great day today... visiting the Utrecht Motorbeurs, Hollands main motorcycle event, 5 big halls full of motorcycles and motorcycling stuff and organisations, 11 acres, more than 300 vendors. Basically all of Hollands motorcycle dealers bringing along all their bikes and clothing. Hundreds if not thousands of bikes, most used more or less, some new, all for sale : ). Got to sit on a Tmax and a FJR1300 : )) and on / in a Benelli convertible 150cc scooter. Main thing I noticed was that the FJR may look very sporty but the seating position is even more straight up than on a ST. Pics to come in a few hours when I return from this last nightshift : ). Also saw a completely silver painted PC (for sale) and I even noticed an '89 PC with the white parts in black but the bottom part still in the original brownish grey. There were probably about 20 PC's for sale there and I gues about 30 or 40 ST's or so. I actually got myself pondering there what bike I would want to have after the ST, if any, if I would have the money. Can't decide between a new Goldwing with riders backrest or a FJR1300. I think I'm too young for the first (and too poor) and the FJR lacks crash protection and ABS... I even got myself pondering about a couple of secondhand 1500cc goldwings, but I think or hope that the new ST will become my new dream... it's hard when you're finnaly riding the bike you've always dreamed of having.. now I don't know what to dream or long for anymore... don't you just love luxury problems ? ; ) I still have my dream to become an airline pilot though... I hope to have that solved very soon... 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Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Ron Russell" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: A little advice Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:54:48 -0600 You mean Platinum, right? (instead of "titanium") The platinum plugs cost 3-3.5 times as much... Will they last 3 times as long? Perform 3 times better? I don't think anyone knows. I don't see the problem in changing the plugs. It is like the headlight bulb, after it is done the first time, it is a cinch afterwards. Less than 30 minutes total (and this includes R&R of all the Tupperware). Honda recommends changing the plugs every 8,000 miles. I change mine every 10,000 and use NGK DPR7EA-9 plugs at $2.00 each. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Russell To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: PC800: A little advice > Looking into replacing the spark plugs. Would it make a significant > difference in how long they would last if I put in titanium plugs vs. > the regular type? It does seem to be quite a bit of trouble getting to > them. > > Ron > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have used platinum plugs in autos, and I cannot vouch for any performance advantage, but I can say that after 70,000 miles, they look as good as new. I am definitely going with platinum in my PC when I change them (soon). Tony --- Fenwick wrote: > You mean Platinum, right? (instead of "titanium") > > The platinum plugs cost 3-3.5 times as much... Will they > last 3 times as > long? Perform 3 times better? I don't think anyone > knows. > > I don't see the problem in changing the plugs. It is > like the headlight > bulb, after it is done the first time, it is a cinch > afterwards. Less than > 30 minutes total (and this includes R&R of all the > Tupperware). > > Honda recommends changing the plugs every 8,000 miles. I > change mine every > 10,000 and use NGK DPR7EA-9 plugs at $2.00 each. > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > AMA - 361534 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Russell > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:45 PM > Subject: PC800: A little advice > > > > Looking into replacing the spark plugs. Would it make > a significant > > difference in how long they would last if I put in > titanium plugs vs. > > the regular type? It does seem to be quite a bit of > trouble getting to > > them. > > > > Ron > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" > in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in > the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Selden Deemer cc: PC 800 List From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Helmets of "Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:33:27 EST." Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:30:58 -0600 Selden Deemer writes: > "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" writes: > > > Do manufacturers have to pay for their helmets to get a > > Snell certification ? In other words, are there helmets > > that might comply with Snell standards but don't have a > > certificate because the manufacturer can't or doesn't > > want to pay for it ? > > In a word, Yes. See: http://www.smf.org/ > > The following excerpt is from: http://www.smf.org/faqs.html > > How much does Snell cost and who pays? > Snell bills the manufacturer for testing, the acquisition of > random samples and for each Snell Certification label that goes > into a certified helmet. However, these costs, along with every > other production cost, get passed along to you the consumer. > > Snell Certification Random Prototype Snell > Program Test Sample Test Label > > M2000,Motorcycle $940 $120 $215 $0.50 > $0.55 > cloth Those rates are very inexpensive. If a manufacturer were to make only 1,000 helmets of a particular model then the cost of adding Snell is only $1.44 each. Chicken feed. I would expect if the production line were to run continuously, or year to year, then samples will have to be pulled periodically for retest. $120 for retest is so cheap that $10 to ship it via UPS becomes a significant component of the cost of retest. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:31:55 EST Subject: Re: PC800: A little advice To: ronrus@webtv.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/1/01 5:46:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, ronrus@webtv.net writes: << Would it make a significant difference in how long they would last >> My plugs looked simply great at the 25K mark, but I replaced them anyway. Dont really know why, it ran still the same as before (wonderfully). I changed them again at 50K, and will change them again in another thousand or two miles at 75K. Dont really know what all the hoopla is about changing the plugs more often than that is. It does no harm to go longer than recommended, and least it saves a bit of time and aggravation changing them. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:34:19 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:32:40 -0800 To: RVPC800@aol.com, HondaPC800Rider@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Used underwear available, cheap! Russ, I think that is a little more information that we really needed to know. :-) Jim A. At 05:32 PM 03/01/2001, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 3/1/01 9:06:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, >HondaPC800Rider@aol.com writes: > ><< Kinda like used underwear... It might be clean, > but would you wear it...? = ) >> > >If Brittney Spears had been wearing it, I would prefer it to be dirty. Very >dirty. > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Arvid_L=F8vik=27?= , "'PC800 LIST'" Subject: PC800: PC800 in "Back To The Future - Part II" Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:08:38 -0800 Arvid, I watched "Back To The Future - Part II" today just to look for the = PC800 cameo that you mentioned earlier. Well, I found it, but only = after watching the entire movie and realizing that I had missed it. I = went back through the film and looked for it, and finally found it in = about the first 15-20 minutes of the show. Its only on screen for about = a half-second just as it cuts to another scene. I had to keep rewinding = and hitting the pause button on the VCR to finally stop it at the right = spot to freeze it on the screen. And yes, there it was - definitly the = tail end of a white PC800. Thanks for letting us know about it, I never = would have recognized it on my own. Watching the film at normal speed, = it was just a brief, white blur. But I don't think that Steven Spielberg (producer) or Rober Zemeckis = (director) were really making a statement about white PCs - BTTF2 was = released in 1989, so they didn't have much choice of colors for their = futuristic motorcycle of the year 2015. Bruce Pickett=20 Federal Way, WA=20 '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"=20 http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- Hey,=20 that was not the first time a PC was in the movies !! It appears also in the movie Back to the future , part II . As the filmmakers , ( in this case, Steven Spielberg), I too prefer the = white one !! Regards Arvid L=F8vik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.63) with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 01:25:32 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Motorbeurs Utrecht MC Show succes Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:28:28 +0100 Importance: Normal It was an incredibly large event as usual, this time with added new bikes because the MotorRai was canceled last year, making the Motorbeurs the one big main event for motorcyclers in Holland. Check out the pics here: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1016281&a=11859583&p=42445380 Click on the pics to see them in full resolution.. Emile "Good judgement comes from experience.. Unfortunately experience usually comes from bad judgement.." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id EAA106482574 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle RULES! Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:12:20 -0800 Emile, About being an old fart, some of us have children older than you. About the dreaming part, obviously it's been a few hours since your last ride, please go ride some more. But it is nice to ponder what if.... Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > I just say nostalgic ? Just a few more days untill my 27th > and I'm already becoming an old fart talking about the good > ol' days... what is happening to me ? Must be spring or so... > > I actually got myself pondering there what bike I would want to > have after the ST, if any, if I would have the money. Can't > decide between a new Goldwing with riders backrest or > a FJR1300. I think I'm too young for the first (and too poor) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:02:42 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: A little advice ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) writes: > Looking into replacing the spark plugs. Would it make a significant > difference in how long they would last if I put in titanium plugs vs. > the regular type? It does seem to be quite a bit of trouble getting > to them. I think you mean platinum, not titanium. My other bike is a HawkGT, with the same basic engine layout (3-valve, 52-degree V-twin with dual plugs). However, because of the frame layout, the plugs on the Hawk engine are even harder to get to. I put in a set of NGK platinum plugs 4 years and 20,000 miles ago. The bike still starts and runs well. The main risk with long intervals between plug changes is that the threads will seize, so I coated them with anti-seize compound before installation. The NGK plugs cost me about $8 each, so there is no real economic advantage; mainly I did it to avoid the hassle of working on the plugs. NGK has introduced some new iridium plugs that are even more expensive. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "ALPEC ws#1" , "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Snipe? "The Snipe Hunt" Ritual Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:40:10 -0800 "The Snipe Hunt" A Legendary Tradition Amongst All Children, (So I Thought Growing Up Anyway), "So, You're a Big Kid Now?" Initiation Conspiracy Ritual Needed: Gunny Sacks Darkness, Dirt Fields, Trees, Bushes, Streams,(Necessary Detail for CityKids) Patience, Stealth, and Courage Memories...... Funny one comes to mind right away, ....... my brother's best friend's little brother ..... ended up hand-cuffed to a Xmas tree trunk, in the middle of the tree farm, and we REALLY did lose the Damn Key.!.....(That Time Anyway). Boy, from the howling, spitting, hissing, thrashing, fowl-language (Well!), kicking, threats, foaming-action, wild-eyed, knashing-teeth display, you'd THINK we left him ....alone,....without a light, ...or something, ...within reach, ..."on", for ..."a little while". And we were so generous with the pre-hunt soda and stuff, too... Thirty or so years later, I'm pretty sure he'd still go for revenge if opportuninties arose....... Most were lots of fun for everyone, as far as iniations go, this was not the norm for us, but he WAS a pest. There You Go, Seeing the word "snipe" ....... Wendy (Mrs.Paco) P.S. My sister called yesterday, practically crying for joy, her son made a friend who could actually MAKE a glider thing, had Firecrackers, AND wanted to go off and blow it up in the air, OUTSIDE, and maybe later catch lizards (to keep) !!! Of course, in our day, the firecracker bit would have been kept to ourselves, but, you had to give um points for the whole effort. They left on FOOT, no radios, no scooters, phones, gameboys, etc. I did almost faint, when she got that far..(sad sad history here, these boys couldn't even build forts a while back, wouldn't ride bikes WITHOUT us, you know the type........*sigh* >>>>Snipe<<< Wow, it was going a bit fast, and very low, but I got it with the second barrel. :-} snipe /snVIp/ n. Pl. -s, (in sense 1 now usu.) same.ME. [Prob. of Scand. origin (cf. ON (Icel.) mýrisnípa, Norw. myr-, strand-snípa), obscurely rel. to (M)LG, MDu snippe (Du. snip), sneppe, and OHG snepfa (G Schnepfe). Cf. SNITE n.]1 Any of various wading birds of the genus Gallinago and related genera (family Scolopacidae), which have a long straight bill and frequent marshy places; the flesh of any of these as food; esp. (more fully common snipe) G. gallinago, found throughout the northern Holarctic. Formerly also (w. specifying wd.), any of several other waders of the same family. ME. Perhaps it was an instruction......what should I snipe at.......... well, I could snipe at that snipe over there, then I would be a snipe sniper. Did I ever tell you about the partridge I shot out of the sky with my left forefinger while riding the trusty CX500? As we were riding through the Duke of Bedford's estate acouple of years ago, a covey of partridges took of from a stubble field on the righthand side of the road and flew over the road in front of me at about 30 feet. I took my left gloved hand off the handlebar and with fingers imitating a Browning 9mm (my old side arm) I took a couple of "shots" at the game birds. As we were cracking on a bit at the time this little episode took only a second or two. Imagine my shock as one of the birds dropped from the sky, wings akimbo just as if it had take a charge from a 12 bore. (it wasnt even the one I was aiming at). I thought I was seeing things. My fellow rider, Lisa, for it was a girlie, (her words not mine) said, "What did you do to that poor bird?" "Shot it, by pure force of presence" was my answer. Has anything like this ever happened to anyone else? Force of presence has occured on al least 4 occaisions for me. cheers Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:57:48 -0400 To: Hans Geelen , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 specs; KW and original price Hans: >- how many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? No one knows. No one has ever even come close to wearing one out. Check the Big PC800 Maint/Repair database: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ Produce a report for "Engine" related repairs. Out of 4.2 MILLION miles worth of records for 175 PCs, no one has ever replaced valves. Or rings. Or main bearings. Or throw bearings. Or wrist pins. Or anything significant anywhere in the drivetrain. To get the most miles out of your PC, DRIVE IT. Drive every day. Change the oil and filter now and then. Don't sweat which brand you use. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license ccb8caeef0ed901c5fc113ae35571e60) for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:59:20 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Sigma Targa lighted cycle computer (12 volt) details Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:57:58 +0100 Hi, I have finally got the pictures and details on My new computer on the net: http://lovik.tripod.com/Sigma.html I could do it today, 5 degrees F. and snow blizzard. ;o) Took out the GW from the garage and gave it a very fast wash... a = possible buyer are driving 700 miles to see it tomorrow.. Wish me luck !! Regards Arvid=20 http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:04:07 -0600 From: David Sigsbee To: PC800 PC800 Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot in Knoxville I was looking at the Hoot site online and could not figure out where the festivities themselves are being held. Knowing this would, of course, help one decide where to get a room. Does anyone have any information that would help me on this? I assume some other PCers will be there, eh? Thanks. David -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Cc: Subject: PC800: Output vs. longevity? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:28:38 -0500 How many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? - Hans > >No one knows. No one has ever even come close to wearing one out. Check >the Big PC800 Maint/Repair database: -Daniel I may be wrong, but I think Hans wishes to know the output of the engine. Metrically speaking. In kilo-watts. kW. If someone on the list has the horsepower figure for a 1989 PC800, it would be easy enought to convert. I am estimating somewhere around 34-35kW. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Mar 2001 15:24:44 -0600 (CST) (johnson.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.177]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Mar 2001 15:23:18 -0600 (CST) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04691; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:22:17 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:28:29 -0500 From: eddie Subject: PC800: Insurance ad. To: PC800 List Cc: "T.W.O. Mailing List" Reply-to: eddie X-MSMail-priority: Normal Has anyone seen the Eastwood Insurance ad on TV? The actors are explaining that "accidents happen" as they show footage of a motorcyclist hit a bus. The "accident" is actually footage of the end of a high-speed police chase. It was no accident. The lengths they will go to to try and sell something.... -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:26:42 -0500 Subject: PC800: Givi E52 for the PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Just thought I'd let you know I ordered my new Givi E52 box, in flat black, today from Arizona Motorsports (www.azmotorsports.com) and shipping is still FREE with no tax unless you live in AZ. It is being shipped from Givi and should arrive in 1-2 weeks. Everything was taken care of over the Internet with almost immediate confirmation emailed to me. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Tony Miller" , Subject: Re: PC800: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:57:49 -0500 A little more advice. With some cars with platinum plugs, that have a 100,000 tune-up interval, and aluminum heads, there have been reports of the plugs seizing. It's been recomended that these long life plugs be broken loose once in a while. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tony Miller" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: PC800: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) > I have used platinum plugs in autos, and I cannot vouch for > any performance advantage, but I can say that after 70,000 > miles, they look as good as new. I am definitely going > with platinum in my PC when I change them (soon). > > Tony > > > --- Fenwick wrote: > > You mean Platinum, right? (instead of "titanium") > > > > The platinum plugs cost 3-3.5 times as much... Will they > > last 3 times as > > long? Perform 3 times better? I don't think anyone > > knows. > > > > I don't see the problem in changing the plugs. It is > > like the headlight > > bulb, after it is done the first time, it is a cinch > > afterwards. Less than > > 30 minutes total (and this includes R&R of all the > > Tupperware). > > > > Honda recommends changing the plugs every 8,000 miles. I > > change mine every > > 10,000 and use NGK DPR7EA-9 plugs at $2.00 each. > > > > Rich Fenwick > > rfenwick@core.com > > http://pc_800.tripod.com > > 1990 Honda PC800 > > HRCA - HM725413 > > AMA - 361534 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ron Russell > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:45 PM > > Subject: PC800: A little advice > > > > > > > Looking into replacing the spark plugs. Would it make > > a significant > > > difference in how long they would last if I put in > > titanium plugs vs. > > > the regular type? It does seem to be quite a bit of > > trouble getting to > > > them. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" > > in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to > > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in > > the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > ===== > My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license ccb8caeef0ed901c5fc113ae35571e60) for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:07:17 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: HP or KW for PC 800 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:05:59 +0100 Hi, When I bought Torill's PC (89), it came with a full set of papers.. even the American Honda Motor Co. Inc's. Certificate Of Origin For A = Vehicle!! It states there 60 HP (SAE) , and that should be 44,1 kW if my math is = not much off. When I first started to look at the papers today, it is quite a owners = (not riders) bike Torill have ! The bike dealer was=20 L.C.L, Inc. D/B/A-EVERETT HONDA 215 EVERETT MALL WY EVERETT WY 98204 First time reg. July 26 1994 !!!!!! was sold to new owner in Bellevue Wa with 810 miles on the clock. YEAH !! NEW BIKE AND MANAGED 10 MILES IN 2 DAYS!! Second owner July 29 1994 same town with 820 miles on the clock. YAEH !! CLOSE TO A NEW BIKE AND 953 MILES IN 11 MONTHS !!! Someone did not like the bike ??? Third owner got it to Marysville, WA June 9. 1995 mileage 1723 miles!! He sold it to me June 10. 1998=20 MILEAGE 3120 miles !!! YAEH !!! AN IRON BUTT MAN !!!!! 1397 MILES IN 3 -THREE - YEARS !!! THAT'S A WHOPPING 463 MILES A YEAR !!! That is averaging half a daytrip a year ;o ) Did they only have it to look at ??? If there where only more of these riders out there, I could find a 10 = year old new PC 800 way in 2150. Then I'm a 100 and would be very happy if my grand-grand-grand sons gave = me one for my birthday.=20 If it is as the maintenance list tells us, I maybe still sitting with my = 89 in very good shape ;-) Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SoS" PCRC # 2 (Mine) 89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's) 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" (only mine;-) 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 (for = sale) 97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer=20 My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik 800 "SoS"=20 PCRC # 2 (Mine)
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G9LG8V01.QS6 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:36:31 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:30:59 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 specs; KW and original price Daniel, Thanks for your reply but I think I was not clear enough. I'm looking for the power output of the engine. How many kilo watts of power does the engine deliver. Normally this is stated in horsepower, but since a few years its stated in kilo watt here in europe. I need this figure for the insurance. Most motorcycle insurance rates nowaday in the Netherlands are proportional to the KW value of the engine of the bike. There is no KW value in the spec list of the factory repair manual. At least I did not find it in there. Hans. Daniel MacKay wrote: > > Hans: > > >- how many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? > > No one knows. No one has ever even come close to wearing one out. Check > the Big PC800 Maint/Repair database: > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > > Produce a report for "Engine" related repairs. > > Out of 4.2 MILLION miles worth of records for 175 PCs, no one has ever > replaced valves. Or rings. Or main bearings. Or throw bearings. Or > wrist pins. Or anything significant anywhere in the drivetrain. > > To get the most miles out of your PC, DRIVE IT. Drive every day. Change > the oil and filter now and then. Don't sweat which brand you use. > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G9LGOA04.SGT for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:45:46 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:40:11 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Output vs. longevity? I was today at the motorfair in Utrecht and questioned Rick Reparon of the dutch PC800 club on this topic. He told me the PC800 delivers about 57 horse power which should equal to 42 KW. Can someone confirm the horsepower value? Hans. eddie wrote: > > How many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? - Hans > > > >No one knows. No one has ever even come close to wearing one out. Check > >the Big PC800 Maint/Repair database: -Daniel > > I may be wrong, but I think Hans wishes to know the output of the engine. > Metrically speaking. In kilo-watts. kW. > If someone on the list has the horsepower figure for a 1989 PC800, it would > be easy enought to convert. > I am estimating somewhere around 34-35kW. > -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:01:19 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: CRS, An Interesting Comparison First, I do know the difference between titanium (no way) and platinum plugs (way). I am old and I get tired and I have CRS (Can't Remember S**T) more often now but I do know the difference, especially in the light of day. Probably caused by the excesses of my youth-who knows for sure? Anyway, I saw some performance numbers on a car being auctioned on eBay that I thought was interesting. Two seater, 0-60 in about 5.5 seconds, tires wear out about 12 to 15k, small trunk, great handler in the curves, open top, etc. Sounds familiar? I was looking at a 98 Acura NSX Targa for sale. Original list price was about $86K. Auction price is currently $44.6k with only 4k miles on it. (That is some depreciation, wouldn't you say?) It seems I already have a sports car in my garage! Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 19:51:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: RE: PC800 specs; KW and original price Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:54:08 +0100 Importance: Normal >From: Hans Geelen >I'm looking for the power output of the engine. How many kilo >watts of power does the engine deliver. Hans, for your answer I've put together a little page at www.ipcrc.org , click on dynojet PC800 graph in the column technical info to see it or go directly to: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/dyno.html Below the graph the next power figures and more is stated: Max power output measured by Honda on crankshaft: 41.9 kW / 57 hp @ 6500 RPM Max power output measured by dynojet on rearwheel: 34.6 kW / 47 hp @ 6600 RPM Max torque output measured by Honda on crankshaft: 66 Nm @ 5500 RPM Max torque output measured by dynojet on rearwheel: 55 Nm @ 5500 RPM Source is Promotor magazine, the ANWB (Dutch AAA) MCN equivalent. New price according to the 3 PC800 reviews I have in Promotors from the last 10 years vary per year. Because they were not sold officially but imported in large numbers by Safe Motors, the newprice here was dependent on the dollar value as well as the costs Safe had on them and the profit they wanted to make out of it. In 1989 a new PC800 costed around 15000 guilders, in 1993 a PC800 ('89 and '90 models I guess)was 16500 guilders, in 1995 a '95 model would cost a whopping 23500 guilders, just 7000 guilders at that time cheaper than a ST1100 Pan European. You're welcome, Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Hans Geelen cc: PC800 List From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Output vs. longevity? of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:40:11 +0100." <3AA02F5B.A15DE94D@planet.nl> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:58:47 -0600 Hans Geelen writes: > I was today at the motorfair in Utrecht and questioned Rick Reparon of > the dutch PC800 club on this topic. He told me the PC800 delivers about > 57 horse power which should equal to 42 KW. > > Can someone confirm the horsepower value? There used to be a review of the PC somewhere online where the magazine actually ran a PC on a dyno. Peak was around 43 bhp on the rear wheel. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom Torok" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Greeting from new PC800 list member Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:05:14 +1100 G'day PC800eers, I joined your list two days ago and am impressed with the quality of the associated website, the messages on the list and it's activity. I reside in Sydney, Australia, and ride a Honda XL600V Transalp. I ride regularly with a touring/social club called Clubman Tourers MCC. We attend several rallies religiously each year as well as several extended regional tours per year plus many longer-distance day runs. I also 'hook-up' with the V-Twin Adventurers - an Internet based trans Australia club for all-road tourers (read unsealed and sealed roads). I believe the Honda Transalp has never been sold in the USA nor Canada. It may best be described as a lighter (190kg) style of dual-sporter. Lighter than your Honda XL1000V Varadero, Triumph (Hinckly) Tiger 900, BMW R80ST/R80GS/R100GS/R1100GS, style bike. (Rather like the PC800's niche compared to Lead(Gold)wings, etc. I've looked at the PC800 web site engine diagrams and it seems that our engines are of the same geneology. The Transalp's 583cc 'donk' is also a 52 degree v-twin chain-driven SOHC heads with two spark plugs per cylinder, but with chain drive to rear wheel. I know that your UK and Europe members know the model series, which still sells well since 1987 and has recently increased to 650 size and has a factory option of CD stacker/player with integrated handlebar controls! Honda have recently moved production from Japan to Italy (last two models). It spawned the 650 then 750 Afrika Twins and the engine is close to the early eighties VT400/500, the Hawk (Bros in Europe), VT750C cruiser and NTV600/650 Revere. It is NOT like the XLV750 v-twin trail bike (which were shaft-drive, had hydraulic lifters, air-cooled and oil filter on right-side front of crankcase) as none of the aforementioned bikes (except Revere/VT750C) were shaft-driven. (Phew) Anyway, can any of you confirm whether the PC800's engine is like mine? How much do good used engines sell for? Regarding Kilowatts of the PC800: I reckon it should output somewhere between 50 and 60 HP. The Transalp is a little lighter but produces 37kW (50HP) on a good day and will do 100mph (160kph). So there... Regards, Tom Torok & 'theTrannie' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "MTW" cc: "Tony Miller" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) of "Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:57:49 EST." <000f01c0a36c$3617d1a0$4b491841@columbus.rr.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:03:53 -0600 "MTW" writes: > A little more advice. > > With some cars with platinum plugs, that have a 100,000 tune-up interval, > and aluminum heads, there have been reports of the plugs seizing. > > It's been recomended that these long life plugs be broken loose once in a > while. Would be courteous to trim the message a bit on reply. Automotive platinum change intervals are usually no more than 60k. Its the iridium plugs which have the 120k intervals. My new car has 120k mile plugs, 90k mile timing belt, and 60k valve adjustments. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= cc: "PC 800 LIST" From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: HP or KW for PC 800 of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:05:59 +0100." <004201c0a36d$5a04ca40$f7f25dd5@chello.no> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:08:19 -0600 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= writes: > Hi, > When I bought Torill's PC (89), it came with a full set of papers.. > > even the American Honda Motor Co. Inc's. Certificate Of Origin For A = > Vehicle!! > > It states there 60 HP (SAE) , and that should be 44,1 kW if my math is = > not much off. The manufacturer always exagerates. On top of that they stretch the truth by quoting a "crankshaft" HP before the losses of the transmission and drive shaft. Also known to disconnect the alternator and water pump for such measurements. Have heard in Europe and Japan where vehicles are often taxed based on HP, the manufacturer will "stretch the truth" in the other direction. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "James Allmond" To: "eddie" , , "PC800 List" Cc: "T.W.O. Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Re: Insurance ad. Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:06:44 -0500 and the big dummy did not even get seriously hurt.. . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Cc: "T.W.O. Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 16:28 Subject: Insurance ad. > T.W.O. Motorcycle Resort > ____________________ > > Has anyone seen the Eastwood Insurance ad on TV? > The actors are explaining that "accidents happen" as they show footage of a > motorcyclist hit a bus. > The "accident" is actually footage of the end of a high-speed police chase. > It was no accident. > The lengths they will go to to try and sell something.... > > -eddie > > > > _______________ > > To send mail to subscribers of this list, > address it to twowheelsonly@awwwsome.com. > To unsubscribe, e-mail "unsubscribe" in > message body to > twowheelsonly-request@awwwsome.com. > Please refrain from sending attachments. For > more info, e-mail > twowheelsonly-owner@awwwsome > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:24:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:23:10 -0800 To: "Tom Torok" , "PC800" From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Greeting from new PC800 list member Wrong. The Transalp was sold in 1989 and 1990 in three different colors, but not in large numbers. There is an active following and the bikes seem to hold their value well. I owned one for 3 year from 1992 through 1994. I wish I still had it. I sold it before I left for Saudi Arabia. Jim Alexander At 08:05 PM 03/02/2001, Tom Torok wrote: > >[snip] I reside in Sydney, Australia, and ride a Honda XL600V Transalp. I >ride >regularly with a touring/social club called Clubman Tourers MCC. We attend >several rallies religiously each year as well as several extended regional >tours per year plus many longer-distance day runs. I also 'hook-up' with the >V-Twin Adventurers - an Internet based trans Australia club for all-road >tourers (read unsealed and sealed roads). >I believe the Honda Transalp has never been sold in the USA nor Canada. It >may best be described as a lighter (190kg) style of dual-sporter. Lighter [snip] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:16:42 +0000 Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net From: "Don Anderson" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi PC riders I'm hoping someone on this list can help me locate a source for a backrest for a PC-800. Now that it is no longer produced, it seems to be difficult to find accessories. I don't want anything big and fancy, just a simple backrest for my wife. Don Anderson Salem, Oregon triciadon@earthlink.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:22:45 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: triciadon@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/3/2001 3:16:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, triciadon@earthlink.net writes: > Hi PC riders > > I'm hoping someone on this list can help me locate a source for a backrest > for a PC-800. Now that it is no longer produced, it seems to be difficult > to find accessories. > I don't want anything big and fancy, just a simple backrest for my wife. > > Don Anderson > Salem, Oregon > Don, An earlier post on the list had the following: <<>> That was back from the middle of February. You might call to see if they still have some left. Otherwise, you will have to go aftermarket or used. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Revill Dunn" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Insurance ad. Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:52:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Revill Dunn To: eddie Subject: Re: PC800: Insurance ad. A wonderful reason not to own a tv... - Revil *** Speedvision - A wonderful reason TO own a TV. =D hahahahaha! -eddie - -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JCatChelms@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:19:08 EST Subject: PC800: PC800specs;kw and original price To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hans.geelen@planet.nl Hans, What you neet to know is that one horsepower equals 746 watts. So if you use the low value of 47HP from Emile's chart, the power output in kilo watts is a tad over 35 John Costa 96PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Don Anderson" , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:56:20 -0600 Don: One important fact here is that there are two different seat colors. The 1989, 90, 94 and 95 had a grey seat. The 1996, 97 and 98 had a charcoal (nearly black) colored seat. I'm sure you'd like it to match. Please let us know what year of PC you have. Also, consider joining the email list if you haven't done so. We'd enjoy having you with us. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Don Anderson To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net > Hi PC riders > > I'm hoping someone on this list can help me locate a source for a backrest > for a PC-800. Now that it is no longer produced, it seems to be difficult > to find accessories. > I don't want anything big and fancy, just a simple backrest for my wife. > > Don Anderson > Salem, Oregon > triciadon@earthlink.net > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:57:23 -0500 Thanks for the update. I came in on a conversation between two mecanics about the 100k tune up on the Caddy a few years ago. I thought they were talking about Platinum plugs because I had a set in my Toyota for 50k and had a hell of a hard time extracting them. I would check about the Iridum plugs though...it was the steel threds causing the problem, something about the ferris metal and aluminum contact for a long period of time. ???> Would be courteous to trim the message a bit on reply.???? I cut about 75 lines out of the message, not enough? :-) Mike Whited -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 06:09:01 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: PC800specs;kw and original price Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:11:56 +0100 Importance: Normal John, I put the figures below the graph and in the message, including the kW figure already: Max power output measured by Honda on crankshaft: 41.9 kW / 57 hp @ 6500 RPM Max power output measured by dynojet on rearwheel: 34.6 kW / 47 hp @ 6600 RPM Max torque output measured by Honda on crankshaft: 66 Nm @ 5500 RPM Max torque output measured by dynojet on rearwheel: 55 Nm @ 5500 RPM Emile www.ipcrc.org -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of JCatChelms@aol.com Sent: zaterdag 3 maart 2001 13:19 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; hans.geelen@planet.nl Subject: PC800: PC800specs;kw and original price Hans, What you neet to know is that one horsepower equals 746 watts. So if you use the low value of 47HP from Emile's chart, the power output in kilo watts is a tad over 35 John Costa 96PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:42:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:42:00 EST Subject: PC800: SEAT and NOISE To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi all Just adjusted those little rubber stoppers under the rear seat for the trunk lid, WOW its alot better with no "play" in the lid every-now-and-again, And i notice no "floating" as you go around corners now..... Laters -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 07:10:06 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Alan's '89 PC with trailer, hitch and CC plus Texas trip report Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:13:04 +0100 Importance: Normal Check out Alan's new pics at: www.ipcrc.org , the internet Pacific Coast Riders Club, your name, your site.. Laurette and Todd, I also linked the february Texas Hill Country Ride trip report in there.. Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 07:36:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Greeting from new PC800 list member Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:39:52 +0100 Importance: Normal >From: Tom Torok >I reside in Sydney, Australia, and ride a Honda XL600V Transalp. >The Transalp's 583cc 'donk' is also a 52 degree v-twin chain-driven >SOHC heads with two spark plugs per cylinder, but with chain drive >to rear wheel. >Anyway, can any of you confirm whether the PC800's engine is like mine? >How much do good used engines sell for? >Tom Torok & 'theTrannie' Hi Tom, welcome on the list from the other side of the world : ) The figures I have here from a Dutch magazine (also see pc800 dynojet graph and tech sheet on www.ipcrc.org ) indicate it is a 45 degree V, not 52. Still I believe the Transalp's / Shadow's / NTV650 Revere's / NT650V Deauville's / Africa Twin's / Varadero's / PC800's engine is based on the same engine. I don't know about the FI 600 cc twin of the new Honda Silverwing. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.102) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 07:44:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: New FJR1300 Review Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:47:21 +0100 Importance: Normal and other MC stuff at: http://www.insidebikes.com Emile www.ipcrc.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:55:24 EST Subject: PC800: Patch update To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey lister's, I got a hold of my buddy (the graphic artist) and will be meeting with me to go over designs. I have also sent for some samples from AB-emblem. One of the lister's suggested I check it out. I did! I will let ya know more as things develop. L8ter... Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "MTW" From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Trim Before Send (was Re: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) ) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:54:54 -0600 "MTW" writes: > > ???> Would be courteous to trim the message a bit on reply.???? > > > I cut about 75 lines out of the message, not enough? :-) Glad you put a smiley on your comment Mike, as I concur that I don't intend to start any heated discussion. Speaking of "heated" someone who boasts of changing his oil every 1000 miles tried to give me the 55 gallon drum full of his drainings because I insisted he was being wasteful. I claimed the 5 to 8 years it took to fill the drum, the oil got contaminated with moisture. To which he replied, "No problem, just run the oil thru the lawnmower to cook the water out." Said by someone who thinks changing oil every 1000 miles is doing any good? Didn't originally count how much I trimmed off the end. Pulled the message out of the trash. I had 51 lines of delivery headers (no problem) and 107 lines in the body including (4) "Visit the PC800 web page..." signatures, one of which was appended by the list when delivered to me. Its often a matter of opinion as to who much of a message to trim while leaving the hooks for everyone to figure out where the new comments fit in the conversation. But signatures? Bulk to be deleted every time. Doesn't really matter much to me as I get 2MB to 5MB of email per day and am very good about deleting without reading. (Only got 150 messages between 11PM Friday and 11AM Saturday, a slow night). But then again we are not only writing to each other but to the archives. The other words are already recorded. Before purchasing my PC in 1998, I downloaded all the archives then imported the raw unix mail format files into a Eudora for sort and search. As if I had subscribed to the list all along. Brain and eyes were hurting after 10 or 12 hours of immersion. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 Goodies at Planet Racing Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:58:54 -0500 Hi Coasters, Well one of our good buddies put the Planet Recing up in Michigan on the list recently as they said they have some of the much sought after PC800 accessories. Well I immediatly jumped on the WWW and ordered a Front Bra for my PC800 and the trunk floor mats. Well After seeing someone on the list say they're out of alot of the items I called them a few minutes ago and They are out of the Floor Mats ( but I gave them Rich Fenwick's email address in case he'd like to make a bunch for for the World. So let's see who can call 1-800-248-2664 (Planet Racing) the fastest because I was told they have only 1 PC800 Bra left. and like much of the items there are no more anywhere. Maybe a caller could run down the entire list of their PC goodies and let us know what's still available. Randy in Georgia. Let the dialing begin... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:30:55 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ" To: Subject: PC800: 4.2 million miles of experience cant be wrong. Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:31:35 -0000 > >- how many KW does the PC800 1989 engine deliver? > > No one knows. No one has ever even come close to wearing one out. Check > the Big PC800 Maint/Repair database: > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > > Produce a report for "Engine" related repairs. > > Out of 4.2 MILLION miles worth of records for 175 PCs, no one has ever > replaced valves. Or rings. Or main bearings. Or throw bearings. Or > wrist pins. Or anything significant anywhere in the drivetrain. > > To get the most miles out of your PC, DRIVE IT. Drive every day. Change > the oil and filter now and then. Don't sweat which brand you use. HEAR HEAR.! It has to be one of the most reliable bikes EVER. as Dan says, Ride it, lots, and change the oil, occaisionally, for new oil. I really dont think it matters what brand , weight or anything else. new oil is better than old oil, but old oil is better than no oil at all. Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Warninglit@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:09:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:09:51 EST Subject: PC800: thanks for the backrest info To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu My name's David, I bought an '89 Pc from Escondido Cycle center November 13 2000. It had 52,000 miles on it. The fairing guard and baggage guards had been scuffed... but the body looked almost new. The fiberglass covers need some work to keep holding but the bike has been exceptionally nice to ride. There were two on the lot. Due to financing I bought the cheaper of the two. It didn't have a back rest on it. I have 4 boys and putting them on the back with a backrest bought me some peace of mind. I love the bike. It lacks two or three things for me to get my money out of it for rides. First I bought a vista cruise system throttle lock. Has anyone ever used this before and do they have any pointers for installing. ( I have ideas being a machinist by trade but there might be an easier way I don't know about.) second... I would love to put highway pegs on mine. I plane on doing some rides to Tahoe and Reno area from here in San Diego a couple of times this summer. Third... I would also like to put a cd changer in the trunk but need to put an fm stereo somewhere on the bike to do this. Then I have ideas on speakers and such... but if anyone has any comments please let me know. I plan on doing as many rides here in Southern California as I can. thanks... and everyone have a great weekend. David In San Diego
David In San Diego Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.06) id A29E38A80152; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:06:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: , Subject: RE: PC800: thanks for the backrest info Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:20:45 -0800 Importance: Normal I would love to see how you get 4 boys on a PC at the same time -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Warninglit@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:10 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: thanks for the backrest info My name's David, I bought an '89 Pc from Escondido Cycle center November 13 2000. It had 52,000 miles on it. The fairing guard and baggage guards had been scuffed... but the body looked almost new. The fiberglass covers need some work to keep holding but the bike has been exceptionally nice to ride. There were two on the lot. Due to financing I bought the cheaper of the two. It didn't have a back rest on it. I have 4 boys and putting them on the back with a backrest bought me some peace of mind. I love the bike. It lacks two or three things for me to get my money out of it for rides. First I bought a vista cruise system throttle lock. Has anyone ever used this before and do they have any pointers for installing. ( I have ideas being a machinist by trade but there might be an easier way I don't know about.) second... I would love to put highway pegs on mine. I plane on doing some rides to Tahoe and Reno area from here in San Diego a couple of times this summer. Third... I would also like to put a cd changer in the trunk but need to put an fm stereo somewhere on the bike to do this. Then I have ideas on speakers and such... but if anyone has any comments please let me know. I plan on doing as many rides here in Southern California as I can. thanks... and everyone have a great weekend. David In San Diego
David In San Diego -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:21:30 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harry and Kay Mitchell" To: Subject: PC800: Patch proposal Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:17:35 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harry and Kay Mitchell" To: , =20 On 21 Feb Todd, ASKARDLIFE@aol.com, volunteered to co-ordinate the = design of a PCRC patch. Thank you Todd ! I have, as have others, = submitted my patch thoughts to Todd. I also sent the following letter to = all ( pc800@hpc.uh.edu ) --which ended up in la-la land-- my fault = because of attachments.Anyway for whatever it's worth here are my patch = suggestions--WITHOUT ATTACHMENTS.=20 On the butt of my PC I have 4 tails or tales. The longest tale or = message reads;=20 "Thank You-But this is not a Baby Gold Wing- It is a Pacific Coast = (1989-98), the most unappreciated , underrated and misunderstood bike of = the 90's. Its form and features were at least 10 years "too = soon"-Perfect For Those Who Think for Themselves". I suggest this statement / fact be the root message of our pending PCRC = Patch. Lets have some originality, humor and "think out-side the box". = Our bikes are different for which we are proud, so should our patch be = unique and different. It should be simple, attractive and have a = message; --WE ARE NOT LEMMINGS. This patch design effort is a great and rare opportunity. In my opinion = the important part is to create a unique patch/crest that is respectful = to the bike whose form and features were at least 10 years too soon and = to all PC 800 owners---bikers who think for themselves. In conclusion let us all contribute our respective skills towards = creating an outstanding crest/patch and reach consensus by April 1-01. = With some luck we should and could have our unique PCRC identity patch = for this summer's riding. Again; Todd--- THANK YOU !!! Harry Mitchell, Pres, (and only member) Rodney - "I get no respect"- Dangerfield Chapter of the PCRC--Montana P.S. I will send "you all"my patch design (attachment ) etc. later.--for = your opinions--. I assume other patch contributors will do likewise. whatever=20 it's worth here are my patch suggestions--WITHOUT = ATTACHMENTS. 
On the butt of my PC I have 4 = tails or=20 tales. The longest tale or message reads;
 
"Thank You-But this is not a Baby Gold = Wing- It is=20 a Pacific Coast (1989-98), the most unappreciated , underrated and = misunderstood=20 bike of the 90's. Its form and features were at least 10 years "too=20 soon"-Perfect For Those Who Think for Themselves".
 
I suggest this statement / fact be the = root message=20 of our pending PCRC Patch.  Lets have some originality, humor and = "think=20 out-side the box".  Our bikes are different for which we are proud, = so=20 should our patch be unique and different.  It should be simple, = attractive=20 and have a message;  --WE ARE NOT LEMMINGS.
 
This patch design effort is a great and = rare=20 opportunity.  In my opinion the important part is to create a = unique=20 patch/crest that is respectful to the bike whose form and features were = at least=20 10 years too soon and to all PC 800 owners---bikers who think for=20 themselves.
 
In conclusion let us all contribute our = respective=20 skills towards creating an outstanding crest/patch and reach consensus = by April=20 1-01.  With some luck we should and could have our unique PCRC = identity=20 patch for this summer's riding.
 
Again; Todd--- THANK YOU = !!!
 
Harry Mitchell, Pres, (and only = member)
Rodney -=20 "I get no respect"- Dangerfield Chapter of the = PCRC--Montana
 
P.S. I will send "you all"my patch = design=20 (attachment ) etc. later.--for your opinions--. I assume other = patch=20 contributors will do likewise.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:33:32 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brey House" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Patch update Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:40:01 -0600 TODD Way to nice outside to be designing patches, just got back from green = bay took the bike. First ride this year felt great & I stayed nice & = warm now it's time to go wash it Jack the dark side. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: PC800: Patch update Hey lister's,=20 I got a hold of my buddy (the graphic artist) and will be meeting = with me=20 to=20 go over designs. I have also sent for some samples from AB-emblem. One = of the=20 lister's suggested I check it out. I did! I will let ya know more as = things=20 develop.=20 L8ter...=20 Todd Skar=20 "Poseidon"=20 89'PC 20k=20 Green Bay, WI=20 iPCRC#720=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:09:22 -0500 To: Subject: PC800: Spark Plug for Sale Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:08:48 -0500 Importance: Normal I have 8 brand new NGk spark plugs for the pacific coast for sale. I had paid $6/ea at my dealer. If anyone wants them I will sell the brand new 8 for $25 including shipping to you. If you want them, and will use PayPal let me know and they are yours and will ship right out. Thanks very much. Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:31:37 -0800 Having recently completed the Case of the Curious Cruise Control, I was in the mood for a much deserved rest. But there was something else that needed to be done, and I was the only one who could do it. As you might expect, there was a dame involved. Some called her Trouble - but I called her Lady in Blue. Yes, it had been a struggle trying to navigate the twists and turns and electrical machinations of the errant cruise control system. But those had all been straightened out. Electrically speaking, the Audiovox CCS100 cruise control was functioning properly, but still it would not let Blue ascend "The Hill" properly. Regardless of what speed was set at the bottom of that incline, by the time Blue reached the top, she invariably lost 10 mph. Once again, the Lady became a tawdry tramp as her beautiful blue coverings were thrown aside. Diving into the dirty details with my dexterous digits, I decided that the dastardly deviation in the driving device was definitely daunting. But enough alliteration. Since the cruise control worked fine on flat terrain, I was going on the premise that the vacuum reserve that I had installed was too small to hold going up a steep grade. I manufactured a brand new vacuum canister out of 3" ABS pipe and fittings which now gave a whopping 70 cubic inches of vacuum reserve! As I was installing it, I pulled on the previously installed vacuum line and noted that the line seemed a little loose where it attached to the in-line check valve. I examined this closer. I had originally installed this by gluing the check valve into the vacuum line, but as I was poking at it, the check valve fell out of the vacuum line. Here was a clue! Was this perhaps just a case of corruption of the suction by inleakage of air? I went back over the entire vacuum system, tightly cinching down every joint with cable ties. Quickly getting Blue dressed for the road again, we headed out to try the new improvements. Would sealing vacuum line leaks cure the lackadaisical performance? Would the extra-large vacuum reserve provide greater stamina? I fired up Blue, and I immediately noted that she seemed to start easier and idle better. I took her back to the bottom of "The Hill", and with trepidation, I set up the approach. At 65 mph, I thumbed the switch to set the speed. I felt the action of the throttle grip take hold under my hand as the cruise control took over. Up the hill we flew: 65 ... 65... 65 ... 65 ... 65 ... Rock solid all the way! We crested the top of the hill, and the speed never wavered a notch. This was exciting! But now for a bigger test - Tiger Summit! The pass at Tiger Mountain rises almost 900 feet in three-and-a-half miles at a 4-1/2% grade. It took 25 minutes to make our way northeastward along Hwy. 18 until reaching the start of the grade at Issaquah-Hobart Road. Along the way, I had a few opportunities to set the cruise control at 75 mph, and each time, the speed never wavered. As we started up the incline to the summit, I set the cruise at 65 again. The CC held the speed steady all the way to the top! I was sure now that what fixed the problem of maintaining a constant speed was sealing all of the vacuum lines. Adding the extra capacity to the vacuum reserve was probably not necessary, but it could be handy at some point. I think that Blue is now ready for other challenges. So another mystery solved. But the butler didn't do it - it was the vacuum that did it. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 17:03:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:06:06 +0100 Importance: Normal A very exiting story Bruce, I read it all the way, can't wait for the book to come out. Will there be a movie about it too ? : ) Of course it could all be summarized in one sentence: "The vacuum line leaked" but then I wouldn't have experienced the suspense, the thrill of reliving it, feeling your pain and emotion as you investigate the mystery and climb mountains in order to resolve it.. ending in that tremendous climax, feeling myself sitting in that typical riding posture behind my desk, trying to read faster and faster.. will it work, has he solved it ? That moment of relief...sigh.. Thanx Bruce... Was it as good for you as it was for me ? : )) Emile www.ipcrc.org "Somebody shoot me...please.." -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Pickett, Bruce D Sent: zondag 4 maart 2001 1:32 To: 'PC800' Subject: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Having recently completed the Case of the Curious Cruise Control, I was in the mood for a much deserved rest. But there was something else that needed to be done, and I was the only one who could do it. As you might expect, there was a dame involved. Some called her Trouble - but I called her Lady in Blue. Yes, it had been a struggle trying to navigate the twists and turns and electrical machinations of the errant cruise control system. But those had all been straightened out. Electrically speaking, the Audiovox CCS100 cruise control was functioning properly, but still it would not let Blue ascend "The Hill" properly. Regardless of what speed was set at the bottom of that incline, by the time Blue reached the top, she invariably lost 10 mph. Once again, the Lady became a tawdry tramp as her beautiful blue coverings were thrown aside. Diving into the dirty details with my dexterous digits, I decided that the dastardly deviation in the driving device was definitely daunting. But enough alliteration. Since the cruise control worked fine on flat terrain, I was going on the premise that the vacuum reserve that I had installed was too small to hold going up a steep grade. I manufactured a brand new vacuum canister out of 3" ABS pipe and fittings which now gave a whopping 70 cubic inches of vacuum reserve! As I was installing it, I pulled on the previously installed vacuum line and noted that the line seemed a little loose where it attached to the in-line check valve. I examined this closer. I had originally installed this by gluing the check valve into the vacuum line, but as I was poking at it, the check valve fell out of the vacuum line. Here was a clue! Was this perhaps just a case of corruption of the suction by inleakage of air? I went back over the entire vacuum system, tightly cinching down every joint with cable ties. Quickly getting Blue dressed for the road again, we headed out to try the new improvements. Would sealing vacuum line leaks cure the lackadaisical performance? Would the extra-large vacuum reserve provide greater stamina? I fired up Blue, and I immediately noted that she seemed to start easier and idle better. I took her back to the bottom of "The Hill", and with trepidation, I set up the approach. At 65 mph, I thumbed the switch to set the speed. I felt the action of the throttle grip take hold under my hand as the cruise control took over. Up the hill we flew: 65 ... 65... 65 ... 65 ... 65 ... Rock solid all the way! We crested the top of the hill, and the speed never wavered a notch. This was exciting! But now for a bigger test - Tiger Summit! The pass at Tiger Mountain rises almost 900 feet in three-and-a-half miles at a 4-1/2% grade. It took 25 minutes to make our way northeastward along Hwy. 18 until reaching the start of the grade at Issaquah-Hobart Road. Along the way, I had a few opportunities to set the cruise control at 75 mph, and each time, the speed never wavered. As we started up the incline to the summit, I set the cruise at 65 again. The CC held the speed steady all the way to the top! I was sure now that what fixed the problem of maintaining a constant speed was sealing all of the vacuum lines. Adding the extra capacity to the vacuum reserve was probably not necessary, but it could be handy at some point. I think that Blue is now ready for other challenges. So another mystery solved. But the butler didn't do it - it was the vacuum that did it. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:18:28 EST Subject: Re: PC800: thanks for the backrest info To: Warninglit@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/3/2001 1:11:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Warninglit@aol.com writes: > > My name's David, > I bought an '89 Pc from Escondido Cycle center November 13 2000. It had > 52,000 miles on it. The fairing guard and baggage guards had been > scuffed... > but the body looked almost new. The fiberglass covers need some work to > keep > holding but the bike has been exceptionally nice to ride. There were two on > the lot. Due to financing I bought the cheaper of the two. It didn't have a > back rest on it. I have 4 boys and putting them on the back with a backrest > bought me some peace of mind. > I love the bike. It lacks two or three things for me to get my money out of > it for rides. First I bought a vista cruise system throttle lock. Has > anyone > ever used this before and do they have any pointers for installing. ( I > have > ideas being a machinist by trade but there might be an easier way I don't > know about.) > second... I would love to put highway pegs on mine. I plane on doing some > rides to Tahoe and Reno area from here in San Diego a couple of times this > summer. > Third... I would also like to put a cd changer in the trunk but need to put > an fm stereo somewhere on the bike to do this. Then I have ideas on > speakers > and such... but if anyone has any comments please let me know. > I plan on doing as many rides here in Southern California as I can. > thanks... and everyone have a great weekend. > David In San Diego Hey David, Congrats on the new PC... The more I look, the more I like the '89, it would match my car too, but I love my '97. I took notice on your comments on the condition of your body panels and the scuffed crash guards. You can pick up the guards relatively cheap through Honda of Milpitas at "hondamil.com" or Waynesville Cycle at waynesvillecycle.com. I use Waynesville just because they are on my side of the coast and only @350 miles away, but Milpitas has a very good rep! When i picked up my '97 used last year, it had been left out daily in the summer heat everyday by the dealership, never washed, for well over a year and a half, and every painted horizontal surface was badly oxidized and needed heavy compounding, which did bring out the finish, but I eventually just replaced the trunk lid, trunk cowl and right side guards after a garage mishap : (.... and with the money i saved at Waynes' over the local jobber, i replaced the top shelter and put a Hondaline tall shield on her... Thank goodness for good insurance. I would suggest trying the Throttle Rocker at throttlerocker.com instead of the Vista Cruise, but by all means try both, they actually complement each other, and because of the front wheel wobble many PC's exhibit, both hands on the bars is recommended anyhow... I just had to comment when i saw "San Diego" in your signature. I spent quite a bit of time in Pacific Beach, four years at Mission Bay High School, and four years at that Taco Bell on the merge of Garnet & Balboa in PB after school, i miss the city quite a lot... Lots of rides through Ramona and on to Julian, Ocotillo and/or Ocotillo Wells depending on the turn, 78 is quite a road ... and cruising El Cajon on a Friday night, boy its been awhile... Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC
David In San Diego



Hey David,

Congrats on the new PC...  The more I look, the more I like the '89, it would
match my car too, but I love my '97.  I took notice on your comments on the
condition of your body panels and the scuffed crash guards.  You can pick up
the guards relatively cheap through Honda of Milpitas at "hondamil.com" or
Waynesville Cycle at waynesvillecycle.com.

I use Waynesville just because they are on my side of the coast and only @350
miles away, but Milpitas has a very good rep!  When i picked up my '97 used
last year, it had been left out daily in the summer heat everyday by the
dealership, never washed, for well over a year and a half, and every painted
horizontal surface was badly oxidized and needed heavy compounding, which did
bring out the finish, but I eventually just replaced the trunk lid, trunk
cowl and right side guards after a garage mishap : (.... and with the money i
saved at Waynes' over the local jobber, i replaced the top shelter and put a
Hondaline tall shield on her...  Thank goodness for good insurance.

I would suggest trying the Throttle Rocker at throttlerocker.com instead of
the Vista Cruise, but by all means try both, they actually complement each
other, and because of the front wheel wobble many PC's exhibit, both hands on
the bars is recommended anyhow...

I just had to comment when i saw "San Diego" in your signature.  I spent
quite a bit of time in Pacific Beach, four years at Mission Bay High School,
and four years at that Taco Bell on the merge of Garnet & Balboa in PB after
school, i miss the city quite a lot...  Lots of rides through Ramona and on
to Julian, Ocotillo and/or Ocotillo Wells depending on the turn, 78 is quite
a road ... and cruising El Cajon on a Friday night, boy its been awhile...

Troy Doyle
'97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M
Summerville, SC Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Glen Sansoucie" To: Subject: PC800: New to list. . . Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:07:25 -0500 Importance: Normal Hi, I'm new to the list. Name: Glen Sansoucie Location: South Berwick, Maine Email: gsansoucie@mediaone.net PC Model year (if you have one): 1998 Bought Used/New: Used (Lucked out on that) Modifications made to bike: Trunk light kit I had been searching for a PC in good - great condition in New England for about 18 mos when I went into the local Honda shop for some parts for my 'other bike' (1981 CX500C, for sale, by the way). My jaw almost hit the floor when I saw a PC hidden amongst the used sport bikes (it was Feb of last year and the bike season had not started so all the bikes were in the back). The bike had 4800 miles on it and was in pristine condition. It had the backrest installed (which I later found I HATE) and a smoke extra tall windscreen (I forgot the brand, it isn't on the bike any longer). Unfortunately the sales[kid] didn't know anything about the bike, or how to sell it for that matter, so I left a little perplexed. After convincing my wife that I really NEEDED the bike (save money on gas, etc) I called the sales manager and told him I wanted the bike and that he needed to give me a price so I could come down and buy it. He did and I did and I wound up riding it home in a [very] light snow squall. I think the odometer is at 10400 or something like that (I run it once a week during the winter, yet don't seem to notice the odometer). I know of two other PC owners in the area, I met one at the Reynold's Motorsports Open House last year. Are there any others in the Maine, NH, Mass area? If there are, you are probably like me, waiting for the snow to melt. I wanted to move the bike out into the driveway to take a picture, the snow banks in the front are a little taller than the bike, it would make a great shot for a web page. Unfortunately, it was too cold today and there was too much ice, I'd rather not drop the bike for a picture. I am planning on installing a [HAM] radio sometime this spring (KB1GEN). If there are any PC-HAM's out there that have mounted an antenna on the PC, I'd love to hear from you as I am a little concerned about the affect of the trunk, waterproofing, RF (at head level) etc. OK, this is a pretty long email so I'll close for now. Till the snow melts... -=Glen=- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:26:34 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: New to list. . . To: gsansoucie@mediaone.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" gsansoucie@mediaone.net writes: >Hi, I'm new to the list. > >Name: Glen Sansoucie >Location: South Berwick, Maine >Email: gsansoucie@mediaone.net >PC Model year (if you have one): 1998 >Bought Used/New: Used (Lucked out on that) >Modifications made to bike: Trunk light kit > >Till the snow melts... > >-=Glen=- Welcome Glen. There are indeed fellow Coasters in the New England area. I just met up with a couple of them from MA at the NYC motorcycle show for dinner last weekend. I don't recall any in Maine that are on the list though, but I may be wrong. If you are the first one that's all the better. Stay tuned to the PC800 List for news about upcoming Pacific Coast events. I know there will be a few of us at Americade in Lake George, NY, June 4-9. I'm organizing the 3rd annual dinner on Wednesday night. There is also a fall (I know, I know, it's too early to think about the end of the riding season already) leaf tour weekend in MA that Christoffer Carstanjen organizes (last year's http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~ccarstan/tour2k-1.html) If you ever have the urge to travel to the Finger Lakes Region of New York State let me know. PS- I used to have a CX500 and its 650 version. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:43:12 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "'PC800'" Subject: Re: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:43:12 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:31 PM Subject: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) > So another mystery solved. But the butler didn't do it - it was the vacuum that did it. > Bruce Pickett So in this case, it was good that things sucked....;-0 Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id XAA70108421 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "'PC800'" Subject: Re: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:14:24 -0800 What a story, man triumphs over his problems. Your whole story concerning the Audiovox is worth reading. I can hardly wait until the how-to-story is published. If you want to read a story about how another guy solved some problems except for one (money), it is also good reading. I found it here: http://bbs.gwrra.org/board/messages/56/12484.html?983593630 This is another message board, so the message won't be around for long. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:53:14 -0800 Emile, A movie? Who knows? I wonder what they would do for the part of Blue? Hollywood would probably miscast her with a Harley. Probably the only Pacific Coast in the whole show would have something to do with Babe Watch (well, that has potential, I guess). I think you need to go see your girl friend for a while. :-) Take care, Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin [mailto:Emile@Piloot.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:06 PM To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: The Case of the Apathetic Audiovox (a PC Mystery) A very exiting story Bruce, I read it all the way, can't wait for the book to come out. Will there be a movie about it too ? : ) Of course it could all be summarized in one sentence: "The vacuum line leaked" but then I wouldn't have experienced the suspense, the thrill of reliving it, feeling your pain and emotion as you investigate the mystery and climb mountains in order to resolve it.. ending in that tremendous climax, feeling myself sitting in that typical riding posture behind my desk, trying to read faster and faster.. will it work, has he solved it ? That moment of relief...sigh.. Thanx Bruce... Was it as good for you as it was for me ? : )) Emile www.ipcrc.org "Somebody shoot me...please.." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 06:27:26 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "PC800 group" Subject: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:23:58 +1000 I see that AP50 Auto/M/C cruise control that sellls for $200 oz = here.....about $105 usa..... NOW sells in USA for $500!! Wow that's a LOT of brackets for $400!! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:16:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:16:58 EST Subject: PC800: Fun in the sun To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu It's been a couple of months since I last paid any real attention to my PC, Xena. The weather has been terrible, here in Omaha... Cold, sleet, snow... Unrelenting weeks of steel grey skies and whistling winds. Poor conditions... Even for such a stalwart member of the "Hey! I can see the pavement, how bad can it be?" club as myself. Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only in my leather jacket... So I figured it was high time to see what's become of my bike... After sitting in the weather, all of this time. I should probably add a line or two about how Xena's been stored, this winter. Poorly. Very, very poorly. I threw an all weather cover over her- which leaked- and hoped for the best. The gas was not drained or stabilized. A battery tender was not attached. When it snowed, she was buried. When it sleeted, she was frosted over. When the temperature spiralled below zero, she was right out in it. Naturally, every time I've been able to start her- once or twice so far during the season- I've been filled with trepidation. The Tracker sits out in the same conditions, but she's started daily... And given a little care, now and again. The bike is simply... Parked. That having been said, the bike behaved as she has on every other occaision. I twist the key, the warning lights come on. I pull the choke, hit the starter, and she fires right up. No hesitation, no roughness to the idle... She backfired on me, once... Which I attributed to a little stupid throttle manipulation...A minute or two to reach operating temperature, and off I ride. Haven't even lost air in the tires. So. The girlfriend and I spent the afternoon, zooming around the streets of Dundee- Omaha's liberal enclave. "Did you see that woman?" "Eh?" "In the car." "Kinda busy steering." "She looked at us like we were crazy." "We are." Both of us had been suffering from a sort of cabin fever. We could get out, in all the bad weather. The trusty Tracker simply does not _care_ about weather. But there was no enjoyment to it. Out, get where you're a gettin', and get on back. Today... Put paid to that. The girlfriend's been having trouble sleeping, these past few days- a midwestern winter malaise, a reaction to the lack of strong sun. When we got back from our ride, she went straight to bed... Where she's still sleeping. I, on the other hand, haven't suffered any physical effects... But I _have_ been quite an enormous _ass_hole these past few weeks. My mood turning as bleak as this frozen tundra of a cityscape... And tonight... I feel great. Even better, knowing that I'll probably be able to take the bike out tomorrow. I wonder how much money- spent on light therapy, homeopathic remedies, psychiatry and other nostrums for the relief of winter- would be saved if people could just take a spin on a big black motorcycle, once in a while...? Having said this... You will have noticed my confession, earlier, as to the mistreatment of my PC this winter. While I am thoroughly impressed as to the hardiness of the machine- I have _never_ owned a motorcycle that seemed to need so little care- I am also a little concerned as to any lingering effects that this might have. Point blank... I'd hate to lose the bike because I neglected something... Start riding actively again in spring, only to have the engine seize or a wheel fall off. So. As we get back into riding weather... What would any of you suggest I do to make certain Xena's in prime condition? Bear in mind that the local Honda dealership is amoung the worst in the nation. So far, I've figured on doing these things: Change the oil, shaft, radiator and brake fluids. Balance the carbs. Replace the air filter, and possibly the plugs. Check the discs and brake pads and lines. I'm in some need of new tires, so I'll replace these as well- or have the dealer do it, standing over them to make certain that the splines are greased and the wheels actually balanced. Oh... Wash and wash and wax and polish. Anything else? Kendall Gray 95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:17:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: PC800: trip around the world To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is a very interesting link. You may like it: http://www.jupitalia.com/#theText __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:49:53 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 03:47:50 -0800 To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Find a garage ... a friends or a realtives, with a little space. The weather is the worst enemy of the bikes exterior. Eventually you'll pay for her being outside. Of course, this winter is far enough along that it won't be necessary, but next year do it. Plan ahead of time to put her up in the right spot. put the Stabil in the tank and treat her right .... you do want her to last, don't you? Living in California we don't have the severe weather you have and I've always had a garage to keep my bike in except for one bike. It was a CX500 Deluxe. It was in pretty good shape, but it did sit all of the time. It was covered during that time, but it was not as nice a bike after two years outside. I wasn't happy and decide that I would not treat another bike like that ... even if the cars had to sit outside. Jim Alexander At 11:16 PM 03/03/2001, KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > >It's been a couple of months since I last paid any real attention to my PC, >Xena. > >The weather has been terrible, here in Omaha... Cold, sleet, snow... >Unrelenting weeks of steel grey skies and whistling winds. > >Poor conditions... Even for such a stalwart member of the "Hey! I can see the >pavement, how bad can it be?" club as myself. > >Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only >in my leather jacket... So I figured it was high time to see what's become of >my bike... After sitting in the weather, all of this time. >[snip] >Anything else? > > >Kendall Gray >95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Mar 2001 12:29:08 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:29:11 +0100 From: Wolfgang Kaufmann To: PC800-Mailing List Subject: PC800: Repainting Hi listers, as I told you months ago I was rearended by a car while I was riding my `96 PC, which fortunately only caused severe damage to the bike, but not to me. A lot of plastic parts were broken or scratched - the costs the insurance estimated were about $ 4.500,- . In the meantime I have gotten the money from the drivers insurance and as there is no noticeable damage on the PCs frame ( I rode the "naked" bike for a few miles and didn`t notice any difference ) I decided to rebuild the bike. I have ordered all broken parts ( about $ 1.500,- ) and have already got them. Arvids hint of a cheap parts source in Germany helped me to save a LOT of money :-) . But there are still a lot of body parts with more or less severe scratches on the painted surface and a few small cracks. The cracks I am going to repair with a sort of "Plasti Fix", but it is another brand sold here in Europe. BTW, does anyone of you have a spare Flex Mold Bar, which comes with a PlastiFix repair kit to rebuild broken tabs? If you don`t need it any more I would be glad if you could send it to me in an envelope, because a Flex Mold Bar isn`t included to that brand of repair kits sold here in Austria ! The next step would be to repaint the scratched body parts. Athough I consider this part of job to be done by a professional, I actually have some questions about it. Is there a special material required to fill the deeper scratches on plastic body parts or could be used the same two-components material which is applied on a cars metal body parts ? If the scratches have been covered is there a special primer material needed to be applied on the plastic body parts before the new colour is applied to guarantee the new colour to be fixed to the plastic as well as the original colour ? And, of course, is the same colour (code R 201 D) available for repainting jobs to match the new colour with the original one ? ( Or is there any RAL colour matching the R 201 D ? ) I´m appreciating your help very much, thanks in advance ! Wolfgang Kaufmann, (Austria) PC800 `90 "Mazda Baby", 60k PC800 `96 6,5k, (still damaged) PCOR # 634 http://www.members.aon.at/mtc81/pc800.htm (unfortunately in German ;-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:26:30 -0800 Articulately, achingly humanly put, as usual, Kendall. I have missed your posts. As one who augers into the Winter Blues like an Irwin TurboMax drillbit makes mincemeat out of teak where once a hole never dreamed of being, I empathize with "the girl friend." (I can tell you're in the midwest. Elsewhere they usually have names first, rank later) Now on to the machine. Autolean fluid. Too many freeze-thaw cycles and the stuff gets a little soupy, a little less eager to do the tubular commuting it must do to keep those unstudded tires well underneath you two. Change it. No, not the girl friend, not the tires, the dang-blabbed, slabsided, knockboned ear-lappin' autolean fluid. By my chart, if you're changing it before the switch away from DST, I'd go with the RVP 65, Rubric A/G. And no, I did not miss the color thread trolling. Way to go. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: PC800: Fun in the sun > It's been a couple of months since I last paid any real attention to my PC, > Xena. > > The weather has been terrible, here in Omaha... Cold, sleet, snow... > Unrelenting weeks of steel grey skies and whistling winds. > > Poor conditions... Even for such a stalwart member of the "Hey! I can see the > pavement, how bad can it be?" club as myself. > > Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only > in my leather jacket... So I figured it was high time to see what's become of > my bike... After sitting in the weather, all of this time. > > I should probably add a line or two about how Xena's been stored, this > winter. Poorly. Very, very poorly. I threw an all weather cover over her- > which leaked- and hoped for the best. The gas was not drained or stabilized. > A battery tender was not attached. When it snowed, she was buried. When it > sleeted, she was frosted over. When the temperature spiralled below zero, she > was right out in it. > > Naturally, every time I've been able to start her- once or twice so far > during the season- I've been filled with trepidation. The Tracker sits out in > the same conditions, but she's started daily... And given a little care, now > and again. The bike is simply... Parked. > > That having been said, the bike behaved as she has on every other occaision. > I twist the key, the warning lights come on. I pull the choke, hit the > starter, and she fires right up. No hesitation, no roughness to the idle... > She backfired on me, once... Which I attributed to a little stupid throttle > manipulation...A minute or two to reach operating temperature, and off I ride. > > Haven't even lost air in the tires. > > So. > > The girlfriend and I spent the afternoon, zooming around the streets of > Dundee- Omaha's liberal enclave. > > "Did you see that woman?" > "Eh?" > "In the car." > "Kinda busy steering." > "She looked at us like we were crazy." > "We are." > > Both of us had been suffering from a sort of cabin fever. We could get out, > in all the bad weather. The trusty Tracker simply does not _care_ about > weather. But there was no enjoyment to it. Out, get where you're a gettin', > and get on back. > > Today... Put paid to that. The girlfriend's been having trouble sleeping, > these past few days- a midwestern winter malaise, a reaction to the lack of > strong sun. When we got back from our ride, she went straight to bed... Where > she's still sleeping. > > I, on the other hand, haven't suffered any physical effects... But I _have_ > been quite an enormous _ass_hole these past few weeks. My mood turning as > bleak as this frozen tundra of a cityscape... > > And tonight... I feel great. Even better, knowing that I'll probably be able > to take the bike out tomorrow. > > I wonder how much money- spent on light therapy, homeopathic remedies, > psychiatry and other nostrums for the relief of winter- would be saved if > people could just take a spin on a big black motorcycle, once in a while...? > > Having said this... You will have noticed my confession, earlier, as to the > mistreatment of my PC this winter. While I am thoroughly impressed as to the > hardiness of the machine- I have _never_ owned a motorcycle that seemed to > need so little care- I am also a little concerned as to any lingering effects > that this might have. > > Point blank... I'd hate to lose the bike because I neglected something... > Start riding actively again in spring, only to have the engine seize or a > wheel fall off. > > So. As we get back into riding weather... What would any of you suggest I do > to make certain Xena's in prime condition? Bear in mind that the local Honda > dealership is amoung the worst in the nation. > > So far, I've figured on doing these things: Change the oil, shaft, radiator > and brake fluids. Balance the carbs. Replace the air filter, and possibly the > plugs. Check the discs and brake pads and lines. I'm in some need of new > tires, so I'll replace these as well- or have the dealer do it, standing over > them to make certain that the splines are greased and the wheels actually > balanced. > > Oh... Wash and wash and wax and polish. > > Anything else? > > > Kendall Gray > 95 PC 800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:35:18 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/3/01 11:18:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, KGray96057@aol.com writes: << Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only in my leather jacket... >> Did you manage not to get arrested? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Glen Sansoucie" To: "Jim Alexander" , , Subject: RE: PC800: Fun in the sun Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:22:09 -0500 Importance: Normal You might want to inquire with you local dealer(s). Up here (Maine) there is a dealer that will Winterize, Store, maintain, de-winterize, and test for you for about $150 for the [winter] season. A buddy of mine without a garage did that with his [non PC] bike. It sounds like a pretty decent deal because you basically ride up and drop off the keys in the fall. In the spring give them a week or two notice and pick up the [warmed up] bike all ready to go. . . -=Glen=- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Alexander Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:48 AM To: KGray96057@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Find a garage ... a friends or a realtives, with a little space. The weather is the worst enemy of the bikes exterior. Eventually you'll pay for her being outside. Of course, this winter is far enough along that it won't be necessary, but next year do it. Plan ahead of time to put her up in the right spot. put the Stabil in the tank and treat her right .... you do want her to last, don't you? Living in California we don't have the severe weather you have and I've always had a garage to keep my bike in except for one bike. It was a CX500 Deluxe. It was in pretty good shape, but it did sit all of the time. It was covered during that time, but it was not as nice a bike after two years outside. I wasn't happy and decide that I would not treat another bike like that ... even if the cars had to sit outside. Jim Alexander At 11:16 PM 03/03/2001, KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > >It's been a couple of months since I last paid any real attention to my PC, >Xena. > >The weather has been terrible, here in Omaha... Cold, sleet, snow... >Unrelenting weeks of steel grey skies and whistling winds. > >Poor conditions... Even for such a stalwart member of the "Hey! I can see the >pavement, how bad can it be?" club as myself. > >Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only >in my leather jacket... So I figured it was high time to see what's become of >my bike... After sitting in the weather, all of this time. >[snip] >Anything else? > > >Kendall Gray >95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:12:05 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: gsansoucie@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Or, move down here.....We don't call it the "Great Southwest" for "nuthin" y'all. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California. The best all around motorcycle weather. A little hot sometimes, but when you are cruising down some long lonely highway you really don't notice. At least I don't. I have yet had to worry about winterizing any vehicle. Love it. "Rub it in, Rub it in". The sun is shining, my thermometer on the door is reading 60 (and it is usually reads about 7-10 degrees cooler than actual temp), I hear "Scoot" calling me, I think I'll go ride before I get flamed by all you jealous Northeners........ Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Ron Grant'" , PC800 group Subject: RE: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:14:02 -0800 Yeah, that's why some of us are spending so much effort trying to get automotive cruise controls to work. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Grant [mailto:ultspnch@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:24 PM To: PC800 group Subject: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... I see that AP50 Auto/M/C cruise control that sellls for $200 oz here.....about $105 usa..... NOW sells in USA for $500!! Wow that's a LOT of brackets for $400!! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch cruise controls to work.

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.members.home.com/bluepc

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Grant [mailto:ultspnch@powerup.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:24 PM
To: PC800 group
Subject: PC800: Interesting COST comparo....

I see that AP50 Auto/M/C cruise control that sellls for $200 oz here.....about $105 usa.....
NOW sells in USA for $500!!
 
Wow that's a LOT of brackets for $400!!
 
 
Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!
 
Motorcycle Travel Web Page
www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch
Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:39:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:35:29 -0600 Subject: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues To: PC 800 list Reply-to: ccaronna@swbell.net Hey fellow PCers, I finally gave up on the quest for the perfect headset. I did find one a Radio Shack that is a mike and a separate ear bud. It does work well for listening but if there is much wind, the VOX system activates when it gets loud enough inside the helmet whether you speak or not. When used on PTT it is a little garbled by high wind but not too bad. The main problem is it is just too much trouble to push the PTT switch and do all those other motorcycle things while dodging the Corpus Christi freeway or in town traffic. There is no really easy way to mount the Radio Shack PTT circuit box except on the left handlebar grip. There it interferes with me being able to access the turn signals switch without looking. And it pushes my hand to the outward length of the grip. I could get used to it but do not have anyone to talk to that often anyway. In short, it just seemed like a lot of trouble to use and wire and all when the whole purpose was to enjoy the freedom of riding. Sometimes when you "sort of" find what you are looking for your realize it was not what you wanted anyway. Or was not as much fun as it seemed. If anyone wants the headset info, email me and I can give you what I did and how I mounted everything. BTW it is beautiful here today. Think I will go for an unwired unencumbered ride!!! Chris in Corpus '98 PC "Red Tide" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:46:57 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: BillandScoot@cs.com, gsansoucie@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/4/01 8:13:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, BillandScoot@cs.com writes: << I think I'll go ride before I get flamed by all you jealous Northeners........ >> Don't feel sorry for me, Bill! I moved away from Houston because it was absolutely the worst area to ride in the United States. Nothing to look at, no deceit road, and traffic traffic traffic traffic! I was in "San Tone" two years ago and I sure did not see any place there that would like to ride there either. I moved to Idaho for several reasons, and one of the biggest was for the most wonderful roads and scenery. Yes, somedays it is just not motorcycle friendly, but on those days I go ride my ATV up in the mountains with some other people and let me tell you, what a wonderful time that is indeed. Yesterday we saw herds of mule deer, elk, eagles, and I don't know what all. Rode all day and put a total of 47 miles on my Honda Rancher. Today, it is sunny bright, and I am going to go riding again, this time on a PC800. I wonder about those people that think that it has to be 70 degrees or warmer to be motorcycle weather. Not to me! I love to be outdoors, and if I have to put on a warmer jacket or insulated underwear to do what I love to do, then I will sure be glad to do it. Enjoy your ride today, but I seriously doubt that you have a better ride than me!!! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Fun in the sun Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:10:38 -0800 Bill, I'm pretty close to being as Northern as you can get in the Continental US, but I don't think that I'm jealous. Its a beautiful, sunny Sunday morning with high temperatures expected in the 50's. And the ground isn't shaking today, so its a great day to ride! Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com [mailto:BillandScoot@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:12 AM To: gsansoucie@mediaone.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Or, move down here.....We don't call it the "Great Southwest" for "nuthin" y'all. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California. The best all around motorcycle weather. A little hot sometimes, but when you are cruising down some long lonely highway you really don't notice. At least I don't. I have yet had to worry about winterizing any vehicle. Love it. "Rub it in, Rub it in". The sun is shining, my thermometer on the door is reading 60 (and it is usually reads about 7-10 degrees cooler than actual temp), I hear "Scoot" calling me, I think I'll go ride before I get flamed by all you jealous Northeners........ Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 10:34:16 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:37:13 +0100 Importance: Normal Did you look at the headsets and other set ups from Autocom and Baehr ? http://www.autocom.co.uk Emile www.piloot.com -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of ccaronna@swbell.net Sent: zondag 4 maart 2001 18:35 To: PC 800 list Subject: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Hey fellow PCers, I finally gave up on the quest for the perfect headset. I did find one a Radio Shack that is a mike and a separate ear bud. It does work well for listening but if there is much wind, the VOX system activates when it gets loud enough inside the helmet whether you speak or not. When used on PTT it is a little garbled by high wind but not too bad. The main problem is it is just too much trouble to push the PTT switch and do all those other motorcycle things while dodging the Corpus Christi freeway or in town traffic. There is no really easy way to mount the Radio Shack PTT circuit box except on the left handlebar grip. There it interferes with me being able to access the turn signals switch without looking. And it pushes my hand to the outward length of the grip. I could get used to it but do not have anyone to talk to that often anyway. In short, it just seemed like a lot of trouble to use and wire and all when the whole purpose was to enjoy the freedom of riding. Sometimes when you "sort of" find what you are looking for your realize it was not what you wanted anyway. Or was not as much fun as it seemed. If anyone wants the headset info, email me and I can give you what I did and how I mounted everything. BTW it is beautiful here today. Think I will go for an unwired unencumbered ride!!! Chris in Corpus '98 PC "Red Tide" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 18:52:00 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: $$ for carb synch? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:52:21 -0500 We are supossed to ge getting a *big* snow but I am thinking ahead to = spring. I was wanting to get new spark plugs and the carb's synched.... How big a job is that..... How much $$$ can I anticipate spending. =20 Other than that, I think I am ready for spring. I have changed all the = fluids, new tires, etc. this winter. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Michael D. Linkous www.inetone.net/mlinkous
 
Other than that, I think I am ready = for=20 spring.  I have changed all the fluids, new tires, etc. this=20 winter.
~~~   ~~~   = ~~~
Michael=20 D. Linkous
www.inetone.net/mlinkous
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:02:09 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:45:14 -0600 You can also check http://www.airrider.com/ and also http://www.cyclecomm.com/ Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" > Did you look at the headsets and other > set ups from Autocom and Baehr ? > http://www.autocom.co.uk > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 18:53:12 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: cleaning K&N Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:53:14 -0500 How often do you guys clean your K&N air filter? ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Michael D. Linkous www.inetone.net/mlinkous -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id NAA116248363 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800-Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Repainting Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:17:33 -0800 I can offer no painting advice, but depending on how much scratched plastic you have to paint and since all the plastic is off the bike, why not repaint it all to a custom color? If a professional painter is mixing up primer & paint anyway, a little more shouldn't costs too much than your spending already. Just a thought. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id NAA125852846 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:24:50 -0800 I would think you would get lots of attention, clad only with a leather jacket. What was your girlfriend wearing? Maybe I am on the wrong list, a few weeks ago we had PC riders running around without pants, now here you are. Are there any female riders in this cult, I might want to take a vacation there. I guess this would be a liberal enclave.. very liberal. Just don't get frost bite. Happy riding. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... :-) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: > Well... It was nice enough to go for a mid morning walk, today... Clad only > in my leather jacket... So I figured it was high time to see what's become of > my bike... After sitting in the weather, all of this time. > > The girlfriend and I spent the afternoon, zooming around the streets of > Dundee- Omaha's liberal enclave. > > "Did you see that woman?" > "Eh?" > "In the car." > "Kinda busy steering." > "She looked at us like we were crazy." > "We are." > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:13:59 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: "PC800" , "Emile Nossin" Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues I posted this once before but in case you missed it here is a link to a company with headsets, haven't bought one yet so I can't say how well they work. I will be getting one as soon as I decide if I am gonna get an open face helmet or stay with my N100 http://www.soundradio.com/mc_headset.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:43:39 -0500 Hey, is that a PC that makes a brief appearance.... Tom Boynton 89PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "southpaw ..." To: "PC800" ; "Emile Nossin" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues > I posted this once before but in case you missed it here is a link to a company with headsets, haven't bought one yet so I can't say how well they work. I will be getting one as soon as I decide if I am gonna get an open face helmet or stay with my N100 > http://www.soundradio.com/mc_headset.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:01:23 EST Subject: Re: PC800: $$ for carb synch? To: mlinkous@inetone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/4/2001 1:52:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlinkous@inetone.net writes: > We are supossed to ge getting a *big* snow but I am thinking ahead to > spring. I was wanting to get new spark plugs and the carb's synched.... > > How big a job is that..... How much $$$ can I anticipate spending. > > Other than that, I think I am ready for spring. I have changed all the > fluids, new tires, etc. this winter. > ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ > Michael D. Linkous > > Mike, I just change the plugs and air filter in my PC. It took about 20 minutes from start to finish, well maybe just a bit longer when you consider I dropped a plug into the engine shroud and I had to fish it out with a magnet. All in all, changing plugs and an air cleaner is fairly painless. I just bought my new set of plugs from the local NAPA dealer for 2.16 each. With tax and everything the set of 4 plugs cost me $9.03. Syncing the carbs takes a little longer and you need a carb sync kit. I'm not sure what a dealer would charge for a sync and a plug change but I'd bet it would be close to a $100.00. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001

Other than that, I think I am ready for spring.  I have changed all the
fluids, new tires, etc. this winter.
~~~   ~~~   ~~~
Michael D. Linkous



Mike,

I just change the plugs and air filter in my PC.  It took about 20 minutes
from start to finish, well maybe just a bit longer when you consider I
dropped a plug into the engine shroud and I had to fish it out with a magnet.
 All in all, changing plugs and an air cleaner is fairly painless.  I just
bought my new set of plugs from the local NAPA dealer for 2.16 each.   With
tax and everything the set of 4 plugs cost me $9.03.

Syncing the carbs takes a little longer and you need a carb sync kit.

I'm not sure what a dealer would charge for a sync and a plug change but I'd
bet it would be close to a $100.00.  

Tom Fraser
Manassas, VA
'89 PC800 "Singer"
iPCRC #1001 Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:07:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: St. Louis Show Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:01:10 -0600 Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about the St. Louis MC Show March 23 - 25. Seems there are several people interested. A couple have even expressed interest in riding in. That could be a really brave (or foolhardy) decision given the vagaries of March weather in the Midwest. I plan on doing the show Saturday. If anyone is coming in Friday to stay overnight, I'd be happy to organize a dinner Friday (or Saturday after the show) or both. Let me know what your plans are and I'll try to fit them all together. Drop me a line off-list and I'll get this organized. If you have questions about lodging, activities, routes, drop me a list off-list and I'll do my best. Hope to see a bunch of you there. Mark G. P.S. For the Champaign contingent, if you plan to get here by bike, let me know and I'll meet you somewhere to ride in together. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:20:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "George Hilsinger" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:20:09 -0800 >From: BillandScoot@cs.com >To: gsansoucie@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:12:05 EST > >Or, move down here.....We don't call it the "Great Southwest" for "nuthin" >y'all. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California. The best all around >motorcycle >weather. A little hot sometimes, but when you are cruising down some long >lonely highway you really don't notice. At least I don't. I have yet had >to >worry about winterizing any vehicle. Love it. "Rub it in, Rub it in". The >sun >is shining, my thermometer on the door is reading 60 (and it is usually >reads >about 7-10 degrees cooler than actual temp), I hear "Scoot" calling me, I >think I'll go ride before I get flamed by all you jealous >Northeners........ > >Bill Richardson >98PC"Scoot" >San Antonio >iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137 > > But it gets dark so early there in the summer. Up here in the north, we can ride so much longer in daylight. Why, I bet Juan Goula could finish a 1000 mile Iron Butt run in daylight. You may get more rideable days, but you probably don't get all that many more ideable daylight hours. Of course, you may prefer to ride at night with your heat problems. George Hilsinger 97 PC800 Gypsy Yakima, WA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.102) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 12:51:02 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:53:59 +0100 Importance: Normal Nope, that's definitely a R1100RT.. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: zondag 4 maart 2001 20:44 To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Hey, is that a PC that makes a brief appearance.... Tom Boynton 89PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "southpaw ..." To: "PC800" ; "Emile Nossin" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues > I posted this once before but in case you missed it here is a link to a company with headsets, haven't bought one yet so I can't say how well they work. I will be getting one as soon as I decide if I am gonna get an open face helmet or stay with my N100 > http://www.soundradio.com/mc_headset.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.76) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 13:07:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:10:35 +0100 Importance: Normal I don't know about these specific US headsets and intercoms, but I have read reviews about the Autocom and Baehr sets as well as experiences from other people on the PanEuro and ST list. I don't have any personal experience with any, but from the reading I understand that Autocom and Baehr are the only ones that enable listening at high speed and are absolutely the best (and probably also the most expensive) intercoms around. Autocom is also the only one who advertises with that, you can also see it in their press reviews. So far it's the only site I found where they rate their sets up to a certain speed. The reviews I have here in a Dutch magazine (MCN equivalent) confirm their claims. Together with the Baehr sets they're the only one still readable/usable at high speed, the rest pretty much sucked over 55mph or so. Don't know about cyclecomm, airrider or soundradio. Never read about them anywhere.. I do hope to have a good set one day when I have money to burn to hook up a radio and my cellphone, perhaps also a MP3 player.. and a bike to bike intercom.. later.. when I grow up.. and have more money.. They're right.. money doesn't make happy.. the toys you can buy from it do that : ) Emile www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Steve Wilson Sent: zondag 4 maart 2001 19:45 To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues You can also check http://www.airrider.com/ and also http://www.cyclecomm.com/ Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" > Did you look at the headsets and other > set ups from Autocom and Baehr ? > http://www.autocom.co.uk > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Michael D. Linkous" cc: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:52:21 EST." <000e01c0a4dc$3f44ae80$fabe1bd0@pavilion> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:04:19 -0600 From: David Kelly JC Whitney and Denis Kirk sell mercury carb sync kits for about $40. Its harder to change spark plugs than to sync the carbs. In addition to the carb sync kit you'll need a screwdriver about 10" long. Believe you can buy the tools cheaper than you can pay somebody to do it. And then next time you'll have the tools for free. "Michael D. Linkous" writes: > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A4B2.55947320 > charset="iso-8859-1" > > We are supossed to ge getting a *big* snow but I am thinking ahead to = > spring. I was wanting to get new spark plugs and the carb's synched.... > > How big a job is that..... How much $$$ can I anticipate spending. =20 > > Other than that, I think I am ready for spring. I have changed all the = > fluids, new tires, etc. this winter. > ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ > Michael D. Linkous > www.inetone.net/mlinkous > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A4B2.55947320 > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
We are supossed to ge getting a = > *big* snow but=20 > I am thinking ahead to spring.  I was wanting to get new spark = > plugs and=20 > the carb's synched....
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A4B2.55947320-- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 00:19:15 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "Tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> Cc: "PC800 group" Subject: Re: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:08:16 +1000 I can send....talking to 2 web PCers now.....I have been following the = Audiovox saga , though, and wonder if it is not as good a one, without = the mail and install hassles..... If someone finds the Audiovox one is NOT good for them....I certainly = hope they chat with me before paying $500 though! my guess on airmail to = USA is about $25USA. I presume NO duty into USA but dont know. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom=20 To: Ron Grant=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:14 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... Hey Ron, Hows about you ship a few over to us 'mericans? Seems to me = the a cruise costs like $100 US over here plus the time and effort to = adapt it, or $500 US to buy one ready to go.$105 US plus shipping( can't = be that much, for a cruise ready to bolt on and use, sounds like a = bargain to me. Tom Boynton 89PC800 From: Ron Grant=20 To: PC800 group=20 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 1:23 AM Subject: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... I see that AP50 Auto/M/C cruise control that sellls for $200 oz = here.....about $105 usa..... NOW sells in USA for $500!! Wow that's a LOT of brackets for $400!! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch have been=20 following the Audiovox saga , though, and wonder if it is not as = good a=20 one, without the mail and install hassles.....
 
 
If someone finds the Audiovox one is NOT good = for=20 them....I certainly hope they chat with me before paying $500 though! my = guess on airmail to USA is about $25USA. I = presume=20 NO duty into USA but dont know.
 
 
Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!
 
Motorcycle Travel Web Page
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom
To: Ron=20 Grant
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 = 4:14=20 AM
Subject: Re: PC800: Interesting = COST=20 comparo....

Hey Ron, Hows about you ship a few = over to us=20 'mericans? Seems to me the a cruise costs like $100 US over here plus = the time=20 and effort to adapt it, or $500 US to buy one ready to go.$105 US plus = shipping( can't be that much, for a cruise ready to bolt on and use, = sounds=20 like a bargain to me.
 
Tom Boynton
89PC800
 
 From: Ron Grant
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 = 1:23=20 AM
Subject: PC800: Interesting = COST=20 comparo....

I see that AP50 Auto/M/C cruise control that = sellls=20 for $200 oz here.....about $105 usa.....
NOW sells in USA for $500!!
 
Wow that's a LOT of brackets for = $400!!
 
 
Ron Grant in Brisbane = Australia!
 
Motorcycle Travel Web Page
www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch=
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:34:03 -0500 Re:Michael D. Linkous' request for carb. synchronization info. As mentioned previously, I have a Twin-Max carb gauge that works off a 9V battery and is absolutely safe vs. mercury sticks. It's $80 from M.A.P. engineering and works well with all two-cylinder engines. It operates like a guitar tuner. A meter is centered and the engine started. The meter will show a bias one way or another and the adjustment screw turned (with the 10 inch screwdriver David Kelly mentioned) until the meter is centered again. The unit sensitivity can be adjusted higher and the process repeated until the engine is quite smooth. I dialed my 600's engine in at 5,000rpm (cruise speed). It's niiiiiiiiiice now. =) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:16:25 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ben Crisologo" To: southpaw@bigvalley.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Ron.Jansen@mail.ing.nl Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com Subject: Re: PC800: Funkeys: FRS motorolas Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:16:25 D.J. Have you had a chance to "test drive" the T6310? Curious to find out if a.) the range is there to adequately do group rides, b.) the VOX works even at higher speeds. Is PTT an option? You may need to get another unit to answer the above :) The built in radio makes it really attractive, along with the headset from soundradio per your note. It is selling for $119 (list price $149) at Amazon.com. You got it at a good price. Thanks, Ben >From: "southpaw ..." >To: , >CC: >Subject: PC800: Funkeys: FRS motorolas >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:01:00 -0800 > >I just bought a Motorola FRS T6310 for $89.50 on ebay, I also found out >that you can listen to the FM radio that is built in and it will >automatically cut out if somone transmits over the channel, the complete >users manuals are available from the motorola website, That is where I >got this info as all the sales people were clueless, This guy was selling >5 of the 6310 on a dutch auction, he may be willing to sell the other 4 >that did not sell for the same price here is the link to >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1217207549&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=983242874&indexURL=0&rd=1 > >Also the link to motorola Web page is: >http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=8&cgmenbr=126 > >Anyone used these head sets I found this page in a search. they are >available for the single plug motorola radios: >http://www.soundradio.com/mc_headset.html > >-- >D.J. >Los Angeles >89'PC >-- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JCatChelms@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:52:55 EST Subject: PC800: New To List To: gsansoucie@mediaone.net CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Glen, Welcome to the Pacific Coast list. There are a number of PCer's in the New England area. We have members in Marblehead MA, Boxborough MA, Lowell MA, a couple on the cape, and myself from Chelmsford, MA. There are others in NH, RI and VT also. I have an aunt in Berwick whom I will be visiting in the spring. (no, she isn't a member) Yes, we are all waiting for the snow to melt so we can cast off winters shroud and feel the freedom of riding again. There has been talk of a mid-May ride to the cape, let us know if you are interested in joining up. John Costa 96PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:42:20 -0800 From: ravet To: pc800 , pc8001 , scpcrc Subject: PC800: PC800 FOR SALE This is my second try, By addressing didn't work the first time, so here it is again. I went by Long Beach Motor Sports, and they had a PC800, 97, 25000 miles, asking $4900. She was red and pretty, with a speakers, I didn't ask about the sound system. Just thought if anyone wants one they have it, didn't see any damage either. They also had a Helix, 2001, for $4975. I thouhgt they had stopped the Helix, it was all Black and pretty, if you like that sort. Rod 97-Slow Red -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:02:17 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brey House" To: "Steve Wilson" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:06:53 -0600 My Honda dealer charged me$15.00 when I had my PC Jack ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson To: PC800 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues > You can also check http://www.airrider.com/ and also > http://www.cyclecomm.com/ > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emile Nossin" > > > > Did you look at the headsets and other > > set ups from Autocom and Baehr ? > > http://www.autocom.co.uk > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:16:01 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brey House" To: "Brey House" , "Steve Wilson" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0600 Sorry wrong reply should have been $$ for carb synch Jack --- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Brey House To: Steve Wilson ; PC800 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues > My Honda dealer charged me$15.00 when I had my PC > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Wilson > To: PC800 > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues > > > > You can also check http://www.airrider.com/ and also > > http://www.cyclecomm.com/ > > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Emile Nossin" > > > > > > > Did you look at the headsets and other > > > set ups from Autocom and Baehr ? > > > http://www.autocom.co.uk > > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Michael D. Linkous" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:08:23 EST." <003801c0a4f7$a29190a0$7abe1bd0@pavilion> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:41:07 -0600 "Michael D. Linkous" writes: > Is it really that simple?? > > I would buy a tool if I knew I could do it myself........ I've never done > anything like that before. 1) Take the PC apart, already warm. Remove everything you would pull to change the air filter, except stop short of removing the air filter cover. You might want to change the spark plugs and air filter at this point. 2) Connect the carb stix to two vacuum lines already provided. One is on a fuel cutoff valve. The other is routed nearby and plugged for no other purpose than carb sync. 3) Start the engine. Don't rev it. Must not blip the throttle violently as that can momentarily produce enough vacuum to suck the mercury into your engine. Use the very long screwdriver inserted in the hole in the air filter cover to balance the carbs so each column (only two on the PC) of mercury is about even with the other. Probably not going to get it closer than 1/4" to 3/8". Its not terribly critical. Didn't suspect any problems with mine the first time I did it but found it over 2" off. 4) Slowly run the throttle up and down a bit to make sure things settle where you think they are. Is not unusual for the columns to be an 1" apart on acceleration or deceleration. Its not an exact calibration but the engine doesn't require exactness. 5) If you spend too much time doing it, the engine will run out of gas because you borrowed a critical vacuum line. Just before deciding you are finished reconnect that line for a few moments, then check the balance again. 6) Kill the engine. Reconnect the vacuum line. Plug the other. Put it back together and go riding. Have noticed after a carb sync I have to twiddle with the idle speed for the next week or so. > I saw that www.mawonline.com had a couple of carb tuners.... one for $68 and > a mercury one for $38.... The mercury "carb stix" are the better choice, and they are cheaper too. The "problem" with the mercury device is that once assembled you can't let it fall over else you spill about 3/4 liquid ounce of mercury. The weight of the mercury provides a dampening effect which is critical for being able to read the vacuum between engine strokes. The needle gauges have to build complex dampeners, which is why they cost so much. Also mercury tubes are never going to fall out of calibration. > If I do that myself, I might as well change the plugs myself..... arent they > in there pretty deep? As for the spark plugs being deep in the engine, it shouldn't be all that bad. Expect the spark plug wrench in the tool kit will suffice. I've not changed my spark plugs yet but have synced the carbs on mine and 2 other PC's. Have less than 12,000 miles on my plugs. Have complete gasoline records of my PC since I purchased it new in 1998. Its not running bad enough to measure with MPG. Am not in any hurry to change them. However my coolant is 3 years old and will be changed soon. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:00:13 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: , , , "Ben Crisologo" CC: Subject: Re: PC800: Funkeys: FRS motorolas It has not arrived yet should have it some time this week, along with the memory chip and data cable for my new streetpilot GPS (-: I will need to hook up with you or somone else to test it. I am wondering if there are any modification sites out there like they have for HAM CB and scanners maybe there is a way to increase the wattage output somehow to get 2-3 watts like the distace FRS radios. I got my +5 clearview though It's great what a difference in noise... -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:01:29 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: , , , "Ben Crisologo" CC: Subject: Re: PC800: Funkeys: FRS motorolas I believe Best Buy has the 6310 for $119 also, $129 at Good Guys -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:23:02 -0800 Here is a web page with directions for making your own inexpensive carb synchronizer: http://www.powerchutes.com/manometer.htm (It comes from a site for powered parachutes). I have been thinking of trying one of these, since its pretty easy to make. This synchronizer does not try to quantify the absolute vacuum at the carbs, but it measures the relative difference in vacuum between the two carbs. In theory, it looks like it should work. I have NOT used one, so I cannot yet say how well it works. They recommend using two-cycle oil for the indicator fluid, but that's pretty thick stuff which doesn't flow very fast. It would probably also darkly coat the inside of the tubing so that it would be difficult to see the fluid level. But maybe a viscous fluid is neccesary to dampen rapid fluctuations in the vacuum. I wonder how colored water would work instead as the indicator fluid? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@hiwaay.net] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:41 PM To: Michael D. Linkous Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? "Michael D. Linkous" writes: > Is it really that simple?? > > I would buy a tool if I knew I could do it myself........ I've never done > anything like that before. 1) Take the PC apart, already warm. Remove everything you would pull to change the air filter, except stop short of removing the air filter cover. You might want to change the spark plugs and air filter at this point. 2) Connect the carb stix to two vacuum lines already provided. One is on a fuel cutoff valve. The other is routed nearby and plugged for no other purpose than carb sync. 3) Start the engine. Don't rev it. Must not blip the throttle violently as that can momentarily produce enough vacuum to suck the mercury into your engine. Use the very long screwdriver inserted in the hole in the air filter cover to balance the carbs so each column (only two on the PC) of mercury is about even with the other. Probably not going to get it closer than 1/4" to 3/8". Its not terribly critical. Didn't suspect any problems with mine the first time I did it but found it over 2" off. 4) Slowly run the throttle up and down a bit to make sure things settle where you think they are. Is not unusual for the columns to be an 1" apart on acceleration or deceleration. Its not an exact calibration but the engine doesn't require exactness. 5) If you spend too much time doing it, the engine will run out of gas because you borrowed a critical vacuum line. Just before deciding you are finished reconnect that line for a few moments, then check the balance again. 6) Kill the engine. Reconnect the vacuum line. Plug the other. Put it back together and go riding. Have noticed after a carb sync I have to twiddle with the idle speed for the next week or so. > I saw that www.mawonline.com had a couple of carb tuners.... one for $68 and > a mercury one for $38.... The mercury "carb stix" are the better choice, and they are cheaper too. The "problem" with the mercury device is that once assembled you can't let it fall over else you spill about 3/4 liquid ounce of mercury. The weight of the mercury provides a dampening effect which is critical for being able to read the vacuum between engine strokes. The needle gauges have to build complex dampeners, which is why they cost so much. Also mercury tubes are never going to fall out of calibration. > If I do that myself, I might as well change the plugs myself..... arent they > in there pretty deep? As for the spark plugs being deep in the engine, it shouldn't be all that bad. Expect the spark plug wrench in the tool kit will suffice. I've not changed my spark plugs yet but have synced the carbs on mine and 2 other PC's. Have less than 12,000 miles on my plugs. Have complete gasoline records of my PC since I purchased it new in 1998. Its not running bad enough to measure with MPG. Am not in any hurry to change them. However my coolant is 3 years old and will be changed soon. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 group Subject: RE: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:35:39 -0800 I believe that the Audiovox cruise control is a good system, it just takes a while to straighten out the design issues for a motorcycle installation. Several of us have done it (in different ways, too), and the completed instructions are now being reviewed before releasing them to the PC community. Unless the reviewers suggest some radical changes, the instructions should be available in a few days. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Grant [mailto:ultspnch@powerup.com.au] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:08 PM To: Tom Cc: PC800 group Subject: Re: PC800: Interesting COST comparo.... I can send....talking to 2 web PCers now.....I have been following the Audiovox saga , though, and wonder if it is not as good a one, without the mail and install hassles..... If someone finds the Audiovox one is NOT good for them....I certainly hope they chat with me before paying $500 though! my guess on airmail to USA is about $25USA. I presume NO duty into USA but dont know. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch following the Audiovox saga , though, and wonder if it is not as good a one, without the mail and install hassles.....
 
 
If someone finds the Audiovox one is NOT good for them....I certainly hope they chat with me before paying $500 though! my guess on airmail to USA is about $25USA. I presume NO duty into USA but dont know.
 
 
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Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FXQ5H46S; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:46:40 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ravet@concentric.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pacificcoast@yahoogroups.com, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:46:30 -0800 Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 FOR SALE From: Kenneth R Medd Helix is still a player...Reflex is a new product... On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:42:20 -0800 ravet writes: > So. Cal. PC Riders Club - http://scpcrc.org > > --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor > -------------------------- > Start Your Own FREE Email List at > http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is my second try, By addressing didn't work the first time, so > here it is again. > > I went by Long Beach Motor Sports, and they had a PC800, 97, 25000 > miles, asking $4900. She was red and pretty, with a speakers, I > didn't > ask about the sound system. Just thought if anyone wants one they > have > it, didn't see any damage either. > > They also had a Helix, 2001, for $4975. I thouhgt they had stopped > the > Helix, it was all Black and pretty, if you like that sort. > > Rod > 97-Slow Red > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:54:52 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: David Kelly , pc800list Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Output vs. longevity? boundary="------------050609070206030208050300" --------------050609070206030208050300 Francois ran his PC on the Dyno at Deals Gap last year. klw David Kelly wrote: > Hans Geelen writes: > >> I was today at the motorfair in Utrecht and questioned Rick Reparon of >> the dutch PC800 club on this topic. He told me the PC800 delivers about >> 57 horse power which should equal to 42 KW. >> >> Can someone confirm the horsepower value? > > > There used to be a review of the PC somewhere online where the magazine > actually ran a PC on a dyno. Peak was around 43 bhp on the rear wheel. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > --------------050609070206030208050300 Francois ran his PC on the Dyno at Deals Gap last year.
klw

David Kelly wrote:
Hans Geelen writes:
I was today at the motorfair in Utrecht and questioned Rick Reparon of
the dutch PC800 club on this topic. He told me the PC800 delivers about
57 horse power which should equal to 42 KW.

Can someone confirm the horsepower value?

There used to be a review of the PC somewhere online where the magazine 
actually ran a PC on a dyno. Peak was around 43 bhp on the rear wheel.

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--------------050609070206030208050300-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:15:33 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Subject: FW: PC800: $$ for carb synch? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:15:29 -0600 Importance: Normal > I was wanting to get new spark plugs and the carb's synched.... > How big a job is that..... How much $$$ can I anticipate spending. Hi Mike, I purchased a Motion Pro Carb Sync stick from JC Whitney for $29.00. It works well and it was about the same price as taking the plastic off and going to a dealer (Chris Caronna of Corpus recently did this for $30.00 at the local Honda dealer) I ended up purchasing a set of long screwdrivers as I took all the plastic off, and hooked everything up only to find that the 10" screwdriver I had had too large of an end to work. I ended up spending another $14.00 for the set. (Phillips, flat and torque, the store would not sell them separately) The difference in power was by far the most noticeable difference I have felt with anything I have done on the PC. I had earlier changed the air filter to a K&N (no noticeable difference) and changed plugs. (No noticeable difference) I'm not sure how often one would need to resync the carbs, but I figure that since I have the tools I will probably do it at each oil change. One of the listers mentioned that he took his scoot to a dealer that had some sort of exhaust emmision tester that was used on his carb sync. I am not familiar with this type of machine, but perhaps it may be something to look into. Apparantly it provided a more accurate measurement that traditional methods. I'm not sure how often one would need to resync, I don't think it is something that would need to be done too frequently, however, I put a set of triple webers on a little 240z once and it needed fiddling with all the time. You could really tell the difference with it when it was in sync. Those webers with a hot cam and headers really made that six haul ass. As far as plug changes are concerned, I use a proper spark plug tool with an adjustable head and extension. It works great for the right front plug. Try not to drop it in between the exhaust pipes though, I did and had a hell of a time fishing it out of the black void. I would also recommend using anti seize thread lubricant. Is there anyone out there that has upgraded the ignition system or coils? I have thought of this as they can help increase horsepower and longevity. I do know that it can make quite a bit of difference on older style carbureted cars. I have seen some digital units but they seem really expensive. Also, Dyna advertises a dual plug coil for Jap bikes for about $120.00 each (Need two for the PC) and replacement wires run about $40.00. If I have a beef about the PC it is in the lack of third party accessories, in this area we have been left out in the cold by many vendors. Mi dos centavos, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:09:53 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: , Subject: PC800: ebay PC's for sale there are 3 available at present, one is Naked for $399 http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=pacific+coast+honda -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Pickett, Bruce D" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:23:02 PST." <563C1B129660A542947B7DB4B3630CD401AF99AB@xch-nw-07.nw.nos.boeing.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:23:12 -0600 "Pickett, Bruce D" writes: > Here is a web page with directions for making your own inexpensive > carb synchronizer: http://www.powerchutes.com/manometer.htm (It comes > from a site for powered parachutes). I have been thinking of trying > one of these, since its pretty easy to make. > > This synchronizer does not try to quantify the absolute vacuum at the > carbs, but it measures the relative difference in vacuum between the > two carbs. In theory, it looks like it should work. I have NOT used > one, so I cannot yet say how well it works. They recommend using > two-cycle oil for the indicator fluid, but that's pretty thick stuff > which doesn't flow very fast. It would probably also darkly coat the > inside of the tubing so that it would be difficult to see the fluid > level. But maybe a viscous fluid is neccesary to dampen rapid > fluctuations in the vacuum. I wonder how colored water would work > instead as the indicator fluid? Quoting from the web site: > This device is so simple and cheap to make, I thought it best to just > tell everyone how to do it rather than try to make and sell them. > Bing's claim that their $34.95 mercury device is the most accurate > carb balancer regardless of price seems to ring hollow doesn't it? I > will try this unit as soon as I get a chance. If any of you beat me to > it, let me know how it works for you. Bruce, I don't believe the designer has used his device either. Before paying $40 for a mercury manometer, I too tried to build something. Something even simpler than described. I purchased a 25' roll of aquarium tubing, filled it mostly with motor oil. Connected each end to a carb of my VT500FT. Routed the hoses over the handlebars. Oil level was a foot or so off the ground. The engine promptly sucked all the oil out of the tubes. I concluded the viscosity of the oil was not enough to prevent it from being pulled apart. Much like the classic fluid problem of how high one can suck water out of a well. Now that I have a "real" mercury carb tool I see that restriction orifices are used, limiting the volume of gas flow, and further smoothing the response of the instrument. Same might have rendered my tube full of oil into a useful tool by dampening the violence of each stroke of the engine. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:35:06 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" , Subject: Re: FW: PC800: $$ for carb synch? In response to The exaust gas analyzer Question it does not have anything to do with the Synching of the carbs however what is done the fuel pilot screws are adjusted with the bike connected to and exaust gas analyzer ( SMOG testing type machine) then the fuel mixture is adjusted to get the best peformance i.e. not to lean or rich.. the best way to evaluate this is by looking at the exaust emmisions. My problem was the bike sat for a long time before I got it and would backfire on deceleration, this proceedure or in combo with the synched carbs solved the problem... This is only my understanding of how the mechanic explained it to me... If you want to know more you can e-mail me and I will give you the shop's phone number. -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:15:11 -0800 David, Thanks for relating your experience of making your own carb = synchronizer - it saves me from making a similar discovery on my own. = Perhaps some old carb jets in the lines would make it work? However, = I've had enough experimenting with the cruise control lately, so I'm = reluctant to embark on another major investigation just yet (The Case = of the Sucking Synchronizer? - nah!). I am interested in carb synchronization though. I saw that eddie uses = the Twinmax electronic carb balancer = http://www.calamander.com/twinmax/twinmaxmk2.htm (=A351 - $75USD). I = had been looking at that one, as well as the Morgan Carbtune II = http://www.carbtune.com/ (=A355 - $80USD). Both of these are = mercury-free, and I believe that both are made in the UK. = Interestingly, each one seems to claim that RiDE magazine says that = they're the most accurate! Does anyone have experience with the = Carbtune II? Thanks, Bruce Pickett=20 Federal Way, WA=20 '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"=20 http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@hiwaay.net] Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch?=20 Bruce, I don't believe the designer has used his device either. Before paying $40 for a mercury manometer, I too tried to build something. Something even simpler than described. I purchased a 25' roll of aquarium tubing, filled it mostly with motor oil. Connected each end to a carb of my VT500FT. Routed the hoses over the handlebars. Oil level was a foot or so off the ground. The engine promptly sucked all the oil out of the tubes. I concluded = the viscosity of the oil was not enough to prevent it from being pulled apart. Much like the classic fluid problem of how high one can suck=20 water out of a well. Now that I have a "real" mercury carb tool I see that restriction orifices are used, limiting the volume of gas flow, and further smoothing the response of the instrument. Same might have rendered my=20 tube full of oil into a useful tool by dampening the violence of each=20 stroke of the engine. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:32:31 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:12:37 -0600 >From looking at the site, It does look like it would work. I have a buddy that I might can sucker into a test. :-) If one end of the hose slipped off during testing, colored water may be pretty cool if you like colored steam. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" > Here is a web page with directions for making your own inexpensive carb synchronizer: http://www.powerchutes.com/manometer.htm (It comes from a site for powered parachutes). I have been thinking of trying one of these, since its pretty easy to make. > > This synchronizer does not try to quantify the absolute vacuum at the carbs, but it measures the relative difference in vacuum between the two carbs. In theory, it looks like it should work I wonder how colored water would work instead as the indicator fluid? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:54:29 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 FOR SALE To: krmedd@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/4/01 9:47:47 PM Central Standard Time, krmedd@juno.com writes: > Helix is still a player...Reflex is a new product... > > I just showed my Wife the Reflex on the Honda site. She likes alot! We are getting one for her next summer she said! Kewl!! She then went on to say she could get a Cycle the next spring. Hmmm? I am enrolling us both in the MSC this spring. I look forward to it. L8ter... Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:59:00 -0600 No experience to relate, but watch those weasel words: "[Carbtune]was the most accurate multi-gauge system tested." and "accurate with only an error of 5mmHg." "[TwinMax] tested as the most accurate Balancer!" and "Accurate to 1mm Mercury!" So, of the five units tested, the Carbtune was the most accurate MULTI GAUGE system. The TwinMax apparently was the most accurate overall. Having never done the job, I wonder how accurately you must get the carbs in sync. Is a 5mmHg variation between carbs OK, or does the single mmHg precision of the TwinMax really make a difference? SWake -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D [mailto:Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:15 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Bruce Pickett wrote: <> Both of these are mercury-free, and I believe that both are made in the UK. Interestingly, each one seems to claim that RiDE magazine says that they're the most accurate! Does anyone have experience with the Carbtune II? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:05:02 -0600 The TwinMax says it can be used on an engine with any number of cylinders. How is this done? Do you sync one pair, then sync the next carb to one of the two already in sync and so on down the line? Not that it matters with the PC800, but I hate to buy a special purpose tool and find that I have to replace it later with another tool that would have done both jobs. SWake -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: eddie [mailto:transalp1@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:34 PM To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. Re:Michael D. Linkous' request for carb. synchronization info. As mentioned previously, I have a Twin-Max carb gauge that works off a 9V battery and is absolutely safe vs. mercury sticks. It's $80 from M.A.P. engineering and works well with all two-cylinder engines. It operates like a guitar tuner. A meter is centered and the engine started. The meter will show a bias one way or another and the adjustment screw turned (with the 10 inch screwdriver David Kelly mentioned) until the meter is centered again. The unit sensitivity can be adjusted higher and the process repeated until the engine is quite smooth. I dialed my 600's engine in at 5,000rpm (cruise speed). It's niiiiiiiiiice now. =) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Wakefield, Steve L." Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:17:51 -0500 >Having never done the job, I wonder how accurately you must get the carbs in >sync. Is a 5mmHg variation between carbs OK, or does the single mmHg >precision of the TwinMax really make a difference? > >SWake. Probably not enough to ever notice. But, the TwinMax is easy to use and safe. {Not to mention fun!} Well, mine is safer after I replaced the soft vinyl vacuum tubing with some sturdier rubber line. The exhaust on the Transalp gave off enough heat to make the original piping wilt and come in contact with the hot exhaust. >>> Adjust the carb - Needle close to center. Some more - Better still. Tap the screwdriver - Perfect! Right down the center! Oh, wait. What's this? (Needle suddenly dancing about madly). And that smell? Oh, %$#@! (As the melted tubing ,makes a small flame and lots of smoke.) Fire out. Bike unharmed. Heart rate in the red-zone. Another close call avoided. =) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:14:38 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 FOR SALE Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:55:05 -0600 I may have mentioned it before but here goes, A Honda Reflex is going to be ridden in the Iron Butt Rally this year. It is an 11 day ride around the US and covers over 10,000 miles. The winner last year rode over 13,000 miles. If I am not mistaken, the guy riding the Reflex has a Phd. He is also the same guy that rode a PC in the rally about 4 years ago. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: > I just showed my Wife the Reflex on the Honda site. She likes alot! We are > getting one for her next summer she said! Kewl!! She then went on to say she > could get > a Cycle the next spring. Hmmm? I am enrolling us both in the MSC this spring. > I look forward to it. L8ter... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:23:40 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jdcpc" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Fw: Yellow Rolls. . . Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:23:48 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: Yellow Rolls/Antenna > Hello Glen (etal), > > I have a full stereo (AM/FM/cassette) by Sony in the trunk. I also have a six CD changer in there (also Sony). Sony manufactures a wired tower remote I have mounted on the little glove box door to command the system. When not in use, it can be hidden inside box. > > In addition I have a collection from Cycle Comm (he has a website), > including a 30 channel CB, PTT switches for passenger and rider, helmet sets, antenna and bracket. Cycle Comm sells the CB antenna setup for the PC separately -- about $40, I think. Bracket works well, attaches to crash bar underneath the cover, antenna unscrews at base and folds down against bike to allow bike to be covered. > > When doing high speeds, the antenna bends back (I've been told), but other than that, is pretty much out of the way for passenger and rider. Headsets work VERY well at high speeds, also. > A PC rider, Peter Noeth has a Ham radio (among other things) and mounted his antenna on the top of the trunk in the center (short little thing). Very nice installation > > Welcome to the wonderful world of PC riding! > Joyce > Sonoma County, Ca > '96 YELLOW ROLLS > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:38:01 -0600 In my limited experience, the easiest way to increase the output of a radio is to improve the antenna. Upgrading the antenna at Mom's house increased her range of communication by at least half (she can hit a 2M repeater 30 miles away with a unidirectional ground plane while pushing 5 watts). I've been intending to install a couple of directional beam antennas and see if we can talk between her house and the farm (75 miles). I doubt it, but it's worth trying. Anyhow, I suspect connecting an external antenna to an FRS would do more to increase the range of the unit than any amount of internal mods. Does anyone make an external FRS antenna? The only units I've ever noticed were handhelds with really small antennas. WRT the StreePilot GPS ... have you seen the eTrex Vista that is coming out in late March or early April? I'm thinking about buying one, but I don't know anyone that has a StreetPilot. I had an eMap long enough to discover it wasn't waterproof (!?), then an eTrex long enough to discover it only accepted one route at a time (?!). I decided to wait and see what was coming out before I tried any more GPS equipment. SWake -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: southpaw ... [mailto:southpaw@bigvalley.net] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 9:00 PM To: southpaw@bigvalley.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Ron.Jansen@mail.ing.nl; Ben Crisologo Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com Subject: Re: PC800: Funkeys: FRS motorolas It has not arrived yet should have it some time this week, along with the memory chip and data cable for my new streetpilot GPS (-: I will need to hook up with you or somone else to test it. I am wondering if there are any modification sites out there like they have for HAM CB and scanners maybe there is a way to increase the wattage output somehow to get 2-3 watts like the distace FRS radios. I got my +5 clearview though It's great what a difference in noise... -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:32:09 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:33:06 -0600 I have a Street Pilot. What do you want to know? I will tell you what I know, and if it is something I don't know or I can't find in the book, I'll make it up. About the FRS radio antenna, I saw one this week but I am not sure where. I think it was at Radio Shack and it came with the radio on the other end. The ad said something about the "first FRS with an external antenna ". Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." > Anyhow, I suspect connecting an external antenna to an FRS would do more to > increase the range of the unit than any amount of internal mods. Does > anyone make an external FRS antenna? The only units I've ever noticed were > handhelds with really small antennas. > > WRT the StreePilot GPS ... have you seen the eTrex Vista that is coming out > in late March or early April? I'm thinking about buying one, but I don't > know anyone that has a StreetPilot. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom Torok" To: "PC800" , "Jim Alexander" Subject: Re: PC800: Greeting from new PC800 list member Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:47:25 +1100 Dear Jim, WRONG! The Honda Transalp XL600VH (note the 'H') was the first model produced by Honda, in 1987. The importers (to Australia) only carried this 1st model. It was discontinued in the Honda lineup for Australia in 1989. It was distinguished from following models by having a drum rear brake and being available in a pearl white with blue stripe livery only. The model has continued internationally, non-stop upto today. Later models have changed little except for dual front disc brakes, wedge-shape single headlight with different front cowling and now a 650 with substantially updated bodywork. Anyway, this is a PC800 list..... Regards, and congrats on having the good taste to have at least once loved a Transalp! Tom Torok & 'The Trannie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom Torok" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Greeting from new PC800 list member Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:03:41 +1100 Hi Emile, You wrote: > it is a 45 degree V, not 52. Still I believe the Transalp's / Shadow's / > NTV650 Revere's / NT650V Deauville's / Africa Twin's / Varadero's > / PC800's engine is based on the same engine. I don't know about > the FI 600 cc twin of the new Honda Silverwing. Varadero's are detuned VTR1000 Firestorm motors. i.e; not related at all. I don't know which Shadow you refer to either, as in Oz, it was based on the CX500 (Guzzi-style). Regards, Tom & 'Trannie'. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:26:54 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/4/2001 2:18:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, KGray96057@aol.com writes: > I should probably add a line or two about how Xena's been stored, this > winter. Poorly. Very, very poorly. I threw an all weather cover over her- > which leaked- and hoped for the best. The gas was not drained or > stabilized. > A battery tender was not attached. When it snowed, she was buried. When it > sleeted, she was frosted over. When the temperature spiralled below zero, > she > was right out in it. > Kendall, Without prying on your personal finances, may I suggest that you seek the shelter of a local temporary storage facility, like "Extra Space" or a number of local storage spots... I live in an apartment complex here outside of Charleston, and after a few months of my PC being coated with leaves, pollen, tree gunk and bird droppings, not to mention the occasional child thinking its part of a playground set, I decided to try out a storage spot at the local "Pack Rat." Its a 5'X10' spot with a 40w light bulb and a lock. I installed an old 600 watt halogen light with chains hung from the ceiling and it is effectively a "little garage" with just enough room inside to put Gabrielle on the centerstand and walk around her. Cost? $52/month. YMMV... And it was a great place to relax for a while after my 220 mile ride in the drenching rain on Saturday, boy it was wet... As for the storage of the bike itself, I tend to try to ride all year long, so the only preventative measure I used was a trickle charge on the battery, and keeping the tank full. Gabrielle always starts, many times while even forgetting the choke, and believe me, she stays very clean inside that little storage spot... Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC
sleeted, she was frosted over. When the temperature spiralled below zero,
she
was right out in it.




Kendall,

Without prying on your personal finances, may I suggest that you seek the
shelter of a local temporary storage facility, like "Extra Space" or a number
of local storage spots...  

I live in an apartment complex here outside of Charleston, and after a few
months of my PC being coated with leaves, pollen, tree gunk and bird
droppings, not to mention the occasional child thinking its part of a
playground set, I decided to try out a storage spot at the local "Pack Rat."  
Its a 5'X10' spot with a 40w light bulb and a lock.  I installed an old 600
watt halogen light with chains hung from the ceiling and it is effectively a
"little garage" with just enough room inside to put Gabrielle on the
centerstand and walk around her.  

Cost?  $52/month.  YMMV...

And it was a great place to relax for a while after my 220 mile ride in the
drenching rain on Saturday, boy it was wet...

As for the storage of the bike itself, I tend to try to ride all year long,
so the only preventative measure I used was a trickle charge on the battery,
and keeping the tank full.  Gabrielle always starts, many times while even
forgetting the choke, and believe me, she stays very clean inside that little
storage spot...


Troy Doyle
'97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M
Summerville, SC Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:02:36 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: cleaning K&N "Michael D. Linkous" writes: > How often do you guys clean your K&N air filter? Annually. K&N recommends against frequent cleaning. I use Dawn detergent and warm (not hot) water in copious quantities, followed by drying with a shop vac. A freshly oiled K&N probably doesn't reach full filtration until it "loads up" a little. This seems to explain why gas mileage improves dramatically for the first 500 miles or so. I had the bike apart this weekend for spring cleaning, and while I had the airbox open, it occured to me that its design is very hospitable to replacing the OEM filter with a sheet of oiled Uni filter foam. You can buy a sheet of this stuff for about $10. Cut slightly larger than the airbox, the edges would be clamped between the top and bottom parts, expanding into the grooves where the stock filter fits. A casual eyeballing suggests that this would increase the total area through which air can pass by at least 1/3, possibly by half. I doubt that it would significantly lean the engine, as the "snorkel" at the front of the airbox is probably the limiting factor on airflow. From reviews I have seen, oiled foam filters are more effective than K&N, and in this case, a lot cheaper. I also find them easier to clean, although re-oiling, the squeezing out the excess, is a messy job. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:18:00 -0600 "PC800: Trim Before Send (was Re: Platinum Plugs (was: A little advice) )" (Mar 3, 10:54am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Used oil I trimmed a bit out of this reply too. Reminds me of my Grandaddy Revill. He always kept used oil and put it in a 55 gallon drum too. Difference was his drum was full of sand. He'd run the used oil through the sand, then put it in his tractor. (A FarmAll Cub) Revill Dunn On Mar 3, 10:54am, David Kelly wrote: > Speaking of "heated" someone who > boasts of changing his oil every 1000 miles tried to give me the 55 > gallon drum full of his drainings because I insisted he was being > wasteful. I claimed the 5 to 8 years it took to fill the drum, the oil > got contaminated with moisture. To which he replied, "No problem, just > run the oil thru the lawnmower to cook the water out." Said by someone > who thinks changing oil every 1000 miles is doing any good? > >-- End of excerpt from David Kelly -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:54:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Carb Synch: Cheapest Way Yet To: David Kelly , "Michael D. Linkous" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The best method I've found is to find a buddy who knows how to do it and has all the tools. :-) Thanks again, Dave. Tony ===== My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: PC800: MotoLine ,Canyon Model, Jacket for sale. Large Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:17:45 -0500 Item on E-bay. I found a riding jacket that someone might be = interested in. Its to large for me. This the response I got from the = seller about the jacket. This is all I know Kenneth Winter Item seller on ebay "joe avery" mailto: To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:21:22 -0500 Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for bleeding = brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments about the = device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have been = using? Kenneth Winter =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MaryWoodside/AndyLamm" To: Subject: PC800: 4 boys on a bike Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:17:31 -0500 Maybe he put them all in the trunk?! Andy Lamm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:05:17 -0500 To: "Kenneth Winter" From: Dave Steven Subject: PC800: One-man Brake Bleeders Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for >bleeding brakes and clutches? Several list member have made >comments about the device. Does it work better than the big >syringe that I have been using? > >Kenneth Winter Griotsgarage.com has 'em Item 35700 $164.00 Swiss made or 85700 $69.95 Taiwan made Dave -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:32:11 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: tteulon@ies.net (Todd Teulon) To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "Kenneth Winter" Subject: Re: PC800: Mitty Vac Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:36:19 -0600 Hi Ken, I purchased my Mitty Vac at OReilly's Auto Parts for $30.00, and yes it = works great. I'm not sure whether it will replace the big syringe for = everything, (I use one to quickly drain the resvervoir) but it has many = uses in addition to bleeding brake and clutch lines. (Creating Vacum on = hose for carb sync, draining out coolant reservoir without having to = remove tank are two other uses that come to mind and yes I know you can = suck on the end of the hose too, but who wants to) There is a metal version that sells for about $50.00, I decided on the = plastic model as I only use it occasionally. There are probably other places to purchase them as well, however, I = found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South Texas. You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know already has one, = perhaps you can run over and use theirs. =20 Ride well and ride often, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 97 PC-800 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenneth Winter=20 To: Pacific Coast mailing list=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for = bleeding brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments = about the device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have = been using? Kenneth Winter =20 the hose=20 too, but who wants to)
 
There is a metal version that sells for about = $50.00, I=20 decided on the plastic model as I only use it occasionally.
 
There are probably other places to purchase them as = well,=20 however, I found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South=20 Texas.
 
You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know = already=20 has one, perhaps you can run over and use theirs.
  
Ride well and ride often,
 
Todd Teulon
South Texas "Zeniac"
97 PC-800
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kenneth=20 Winter
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 = 9:21=20 AM
Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac

Where can I purchase the one man, = hand operated=20 vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and clutches?  Several list = member have=20 made comments about the device.   Does it = work better=20 than the big syringe that I have been using?
 
Kenneth Winter  =20
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:32:21 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: tteulon@ies.net (Todd Teulon) To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "Kenneth Winter" Subject: Re: PC800: Mitty Vac Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:36:30 -0600 Hi Ken, I purchased my Mitty Vac at OReilly's Auto Parts for $30.00, and yes it = works great. I'm not sure whether it will replace the big syringe for = everything, (I use one to quickly drain the resvervoir) but it has many = uses in addition to bleeding brake and clutch lines. (Creating Vacum on = hose for carb sync, draining out coolant reservoir without having to = remove tank are two other uses that come to mind and yes I know you can = suck on the end of the hose too, but who wants to) There is a metal version that sells for about $50.00, I decided on the = plastic model as I only use it occasionally. There are probably other places to purchase them as well, however, I = found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South Texas. You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know already has one, = perhaps you can run over and use theirs. =20 Ride well and ride often, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 97 PC-800 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenneth Winter=20 To: Pacific Coast mailing list=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for = bleeding brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments = about the device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have = been using? Kenneth Winter =20 the hose=20 too, but who wants to)
 
There is a metal version that sells for about = $50.00, I=20 decided on the plastic model as I only use it occasionally.
 
There are probably other places to purchase them as = well,=20 however, I found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South=20 Texas.
 
You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know = already=20 has one, perhaps you can run over and use theirs.
  
Ride well and ride often,
 
Todd Teulon
South Texas "Zeniac"
97 PC-800
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kenneth=20 Winter
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 = 9:21=20 AM
Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac

Where can I purchase the one man, = hand operated=20 vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and clutches?  Several list = member have=20 made comments about the device.   Does it = work better=20 than the big syringe that I have been using?
 
Kenneth Winter  =20
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:32:45 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: tteulon@ies.net (Todd Teulon) To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "Kenneth Winter" Subject: Re: PC800: Mitty Vac Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:36:54 -0600 Hi Ken, I purchased my Mitty Vac at OReilly's Auto Parts for $30.00, and yes it = works great. I'm not sure whether it will replace the big syringe for = everything, (I use one to quickly drain the resvervoir) but it has many = uses in addition to bleeding brake and clutch lines. (Creating Vacum on = hose for carb sync, draining out coolant reservoir without having to = remove tank are two other uses that come to mind and yes I know you can = suck on the end of the hose too, but who wants to) There is a metal version that sells for about $50.00, I decided on the = plastic model as I only use it occasionally. There are probably other places to purchase them as well, however, I = found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South Texas. You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know already has one, = perhaps you can run over and use theirs. =20 Ride well and ride often, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 97 PC-800 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenneth Winter=20 To: Pacific Coast mailing list=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for = bleeding brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments = about the device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have = been using? Kenneth Winter =20 the hose=20 too, but who wants to)
 
There is a metal version that sells for about = $50.00, I=20 decided on the plastic model as I only use it occasionally.
 
There are probably other places to purchase them as = well,=20 however, I found O'Reilly's to have the best price here in South=20 Texas.
 
You may want to ask around to see if anyone you know = already=20 has one, perhaps you can run over and use theirs.
  
Ride well and ride often,
 
Todd Teulon
South Texas "Zeniac"
97 PC-800
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kenneth=20 Winter
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 = 9:21=20 AM
Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac

Where can I purchase the one man, = hand operated=20 vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and clutches?  Several list = member have=20 made comments about the device.   Does it = work better=20 than the big syringe that I have been using?
 
Kenneth Winter  =20
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:34:40 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Patch proposal Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:34:40 -0600 >From: "Harry and Kay Mitchell" This patch design effort is a great and rare >opportunity. In my opinion the important part is to create a unique >patch/crest that is respectful to the bike whose form and features were at >least 10 years too soon and to all PC 800 owners---bikers who think for >themselves. > >In conclusion let us all contribute our respective skills towards creating >an outstanding crest/patch and reach consensus by April 1-01. Actually, it would be cool to have some sort of patch for the other sleeve that says, "No, it's a Honda Pacific Coast." Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "The dust of the travelled Road, Shall touch my hands and face." Carl Sandburg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:19:55 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:16:42 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas > In my limited experience, the easiest way to increase the output of a radio > is to improve the antenna. Upgrading the antenna at Mom's house increased > her range of communication by at least half (she can hit a 2M repeater 30 > miles away with a unidirectional ground plane while pushing 5 watts). I've > been intending to install a couple of directional beam antennas and see if > we can talk between her house and the farm (75 miles). I doubt it, but it's > worth trying. > > Anyhow, I suspect connecting an external antenna to an FRS would do more to > increase the range of the unit than any amount of internal mods. Does > anyone make an external FRS antenna? The only units I've ever noticed were > handhelds with really small antennas. I don't think you can modify or change an antenna on an frs radio. Doing so may be against FCC regs. > WRT the StreePilot GPS ... have you seen the eTrex Vista that is coming out > in late March or early April? I'm thinking about buying one, but I don't > know anyone that has a StreetPilot. I had an eMap long enough to discover > it wasn't waterproof (!?), then an eTrex long enough to discover it only > accepted one route at a time (?!). I decided to wait and see what was > coming out before I tried any more GPS equipment. I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a rubber band and cover it when it rains. The III+ is a nice size for PC and i mounted it using silicone rubber and the swivel mount. I didn't trust the velcro that it came with. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:30:06 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: PC 800 list , Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net >The main problem is it is just too much trouble to push the PTT switch >and do all those other motorcycle things while dodging the Corpus >Christi freeway or in town traffic. There is no really easy way to >mount the Radio Shack PTT circuit box except on the left handlebar >grip. There it interferes with me being able to access the turn signals >switch without looking. And it pushes my hand to the outward length of >the grip. Any chance of placing the PTT button on the FRONT of the handlebars, so you activate it with your index finger? I did that and it worked quite well, separating it from the turn signal & horn actions. I did occasionally have trouble with clutching and PTT'ing though. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:29:32 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:26:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas > I have a Street Pilot. What do you want to know? I will tell you what I > know, and if it is something I don't know or I can't find in the book, > I'll make it up. About the FRS radio antenna, I saw one this week but I > am not sure where. I think it was at Radio Shack and it came with the > radio on the other end. The ad said something about the "first FRS with > an external antenna ". > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Yes, radio shack has a unit that has an FRS radio with an external antenna. The radio is located in the base of the antenna. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800 mailing list Subject: PC800: Waterproof GPS Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:20 -0800 I have the Lowrance Global Map 100 GPS, which is 100% waterproof: http://www.thegpsstore.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/site/lowrance100.htm?L+thegpsstore+zezq1751+983841088 I use a cellphone holder attached to the bike's top cover to hold the GPS securely while travelling. There are some pictures of it at http://members.home.net/bluepc/trips/tgpchpcmy2kmr/20000910.html Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Carl Luft [mailto:cluft@uscom.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:17 AM To: pc800 mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas > In my limited experience, the easiest way to increase the output of a radio > is to improve the antenna. Upgrading the antenna at Mom's house increased > her range of communication by at least half (she can hit a 2M repeater 30 > miles away with a unidirectional ground plane while pushing 5 watts). I've > been intending to install a couple of directional beam antennas and see if > we can talk between her house and the farm (75 miles). I doubt it, but it's > worth trying. > > Anyhow, I suspect connecting an external antenna to an FRS would do more to > increase the range of the unit than any amount of internal mods. Does > anyone make an external FRS antenna? The only units I've ever noticed were > handhelds with really small antennas. I don't think you can modify or change an antenna on an frs radio. Doing so may be against FCC regs. > WRT the StreePilot GPS ... have you seen the eTrex Vista that is coming out > in late March or early April? I'm thinking about buying one, but I don't > know anyone that has a StreetPilot. I had an eMap long enough to discover > it wasn't waterproof (!?), then an eTrex long enough to discover it only > accepted one route at a time (?!). I decided to wait and see what was > coming out before I tried any more GPS equipment. I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a rubber band and cover it when it rains. The III+ is a nice size for PC and i mounted it using silicone rubber and the swivel mount. I didn't trust the velcro that it came with. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:45 -0600 From: David Kelly To: "Pickett, Bruce D" Cc: pc800 mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: Waterproof GPS Missed out on the "waterproof GPS" thread earlier because it was embedded in another thread. On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:36:20AM -0800, Pickett, Bruce D wrote: > I have the Lowrance Global Map 100 GPS, which is 100% waterproof: http://www.thegpsstore.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/site/lowrance100.htm?L+thegpsstore+zezq1751+983841088 > > I use a cellphone holder attached to the bike's top cover to hold the GPS securely while travelling. There are some pictures of it at http://members.home.net/bluepc/trips/tgpchpcmy2kmr/20000910.html > Subject: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas > > > > In my limited experience, the easiest way to increase the output of a > radio > > is to improve the antenna. Agreed that antenna revisions are the best way to improve rage but for FRS they are expressly forbidden. FCC will no type-accept license free designs with removable antennas. This was not true as little as a year ago. In any case you will notice it is very hard to purchase antennas for license free radios. > I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a rubber > band and cover it when it rains. The III+ is a nice size for PC and i > mounted it using silicone rubber and the swivel mount. I didn't trust the > velcro that it came with. The Genuine Garmin Mount works well on the dash of my PC. As for a plastic baggie? Don't bother as my III Plus is quite water tight and has survived a lot of rain. http://home.hiwaay.net/~dkelly/pc800-gps.jpg -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id NAA105519381 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Carl Luft" , "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:55:28 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" > I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a rubber > band and cover it when it rains. The III+ is a nice size for PC and i > mounted it using silicone rubber and the swivel mount. I didn't trust the > velcro that it came with. The III+ is very waterproof, that was why I selected it over the e-map. Mine has been out in some pretty good down pours and never missed a beat. You can see pictures of how I mounted it at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=9243876&f=0 Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... .... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vrenios@att.net by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:06:09 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800 Motorcycle) Subject: PC800: Re: radio output (off subject) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:06:08 +0000 > In my limited experience, the easiest way to increase > the output of a radio is to improve the antenna. > Upgrading the antenna at Mom's house increased her > range of communication by at least half (she can hit a > 2M repeater 30 miles away with a unidirectional ground > plane while pushing 5 watts). I've been intending to > install a couple of directional beam antennas and see > if we can talk between her house and the farm (75 > miles). I doubt it, but it's worth trying. In fact, the experts I've read agree with you, limited experience or not! The big benefit to spending your money on an antenna instead of an external power amp or some internal mod, is that you get better transmit AND better receive. The gain of the antenna, minus the loss of the cable between it and the radio, minus some losses due to whatever surrounds your antenna, can give you up to 6db at a modest cost. That means if you have a 5W handheld, it "looks like" 20W to the receiver. Any added gain at the receiver can further improve the signal. Published antenna gains are based on what a really hot RF guy can squeeze out of it on a test course. Your house has gutters, is close to trees and power lines, etc., all of which tend to distort the signal pattern, thereby reducing the actual gain at your installation. My wife and I are both hams and have 2M/440 mobile rigs. I just put up a Cushcraft beam rated at 10db, on a TV rotator. What we've seen over the last month or so is that it doesn't go through the mountains any better than the (3db) vertical that it replaced, but when we DO have contact, it is full quieting - just like a landline call. I am very happy with it. It cost me about $90. (I already had the rotator.) The trick (in your case) will be to put the two antennas up in a permanent location as high up as you can get them. I would use a map to site them with a compass, with final tweaking over the air. If you still can't communicate, you can still buy a pair of 2M (5W in and maybe 100W out) power amps. You might try replacing your coax with some high quality (like Belden) low loss cable first - compare the costs. As to "internal mods" you might get some benefit from having the original filters replaced with newer low loss equivalents, but I personally would buy a higher output mobile rig to replace the handhelds. You can get 25W 2M rigs pretty cheap nowadays. Good luck! -- Alex Vrenios vrenios@att.net http://vrenios.home.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Plugs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:14:47 -0500 Re: The recent thread about spark plugs. I purchased a set this afternoon at a Discount Auto Parts Store. Four DPR7EA-9 NGKs for $1.59 ea. That sure beats the nearly $3 each elsewhere. (Glad I don't own an old Suzuki Calacade. Remember those? They had really wierd plugs that cost a whopping $12 apiece! Imagine $48 for just plugs? Geeez. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:04:15 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: , "Wakefield, Steve L." Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas I like the streetpilot due to the large screen, second I got the 128 mb memory chip which i can just about store the entire western US on, where as the vista 1) is not available yet and is limited to 24mb of memory, however I am tempted to get one due to size for hiking etc. I am waiting on the memory card and cable right now but I will let you know how it works out, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:27:06 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay Leihy" To: "Wakefield, Steve L." , Subject: Re: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:27:01 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 2:05 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. > The TwinMax says it can be used on an engine with any number of cylinders. > How is this done? Do you sync one pair, then sync the next carb to one of > the two already in sync and so on down the line? > The way I understand it is that you pick one carb as a "reference", then sync the others, one by one, to it. I think that you would start with the one where the throttle cable attaches, and work your way down the line. -Clay in NJ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Clay Leihy" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Carb. Synch tool. Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:25:15 -0500 >The way I understand it is that you pick one carb as a "reference", then >sync the others, one by one, to it. I think that you would start with the >one where the throttle cable attaches, and work your way down the line. Wrote Clay in NJ. Dear Clay and PC800 list members, On my previous Honda, a CB750 Nighthawk, #1 carb on the left was the "base" carb. It had no provision for adjustment. The other three did. You simply(?) set those to the base carb one by one and then checked them again. I never set mine. But, that was the procedure in the shop manual. Speaking of adjustment. I just finished changing the spark plugs and synchronizing the carbs on the PC800. It's even easier than on the Transalp. Total time: about 45 minutes, give or take two phone calls interrupting. =) Cost: $6.81 for plugs. (Twin Max was purchased previously for $80 from M.A.P. Engineering. for the 'alp.) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: PC800: Re: Mityvac Online - Catalog-Kits Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:01:30 -0500 While shopping for a Mity-Vac pump to bleed hydraulics systems I have = found a company offering a special price for the system of $27.00 plus = shipping. That is a $12 savings over their posted price. Is interested in a group purchase with the goal of an additional = discount? The site for the tool is and the distributor : http://www.awrtools.com/manufacturerdisplay.asp This is the home page of the product manufacturer: http://www.mityvac.com/kits.html Vacuum Test and Brake Bleeder=20 MITY VAC No. MTV-7000=20 Features=20 a.. An all plastic vacuum pump ideal for the do-it-yourselfer.=20 b.. Complete kits includes all accessories necessary for brake = bleeding and testing. =20 Sale Price: $38.95=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Honda oil filters (eBay) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:04:00 -0600 Just a note... For those of you who are like me and tend to spend a few (?) minutes a day searching for particular items on eBay... I found and was the lucky bidder on 8 (eight) OE Honda oil filters, still in the shrinkwrap, with the red Honda sticker (with the part number) attached, for the sum of $30.50. I'm one happy guy. That figures out to be $3.80 a piece. Now, if I could only find a couple cases of Honda GP10w40 oil at $1.00 a quart, to use with those filters... Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:09:22 -0800 Subject: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas From: Michael Matrix To: X-MDRemoteIP: 24.0.87.113 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if they wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided me, but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. Thanks for your time! Mike Matrix http: //www.mikematrix.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Fenwick" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Mityvac Online - Catalog-Kits Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:36:21 -0500 You are correct the link will not work..Try this: Go to : http://www.awrtools.com/ Then: Enter sales catalog Then: Search by manufacturer " MITY VAC" Then: Look at item # MTV 7000 I hope this helps. Do you have any extra PC oil filters?? Kenneth Winter Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Mityvac Online - Catalog-Kits The site for the tool is and the distributor : http://www.awrtools.com/manufacturerdisplay.asp Kenneth: The above link does not work for me. Can you check it and repost if = necessary? Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 From: Kenneth Winter=20 To: Pacific Coast mailing list=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: PC800: Re: Mityvac Online - Catalog-Kits While shopping for a Mity-Vac pump to bleed hydraulics systems I = have found a company offering a special price for the system of $27.00 = plus shipping. That is a $12 savings over their posted price. Is interested in a group purchase with the goal of an additional = discount? The site for the tool is and the distributor : http://www.awrtools.com/manufacturerdisplay.asp This is the home page of the product manufacturer: http://www.mityvac.com/kits.html Vacuum Test and Brake Bleeder=20 MITY VAC No. MTV-7000=20 Features=20 a.. An all plastic vacuum pump ideal for the = do-it-yourselfer.=20 b.. Complete kits includes all accessories necessary for = brake bleeding and testing. =20 Sale Price: $38.95=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:32:29 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas From: Michael Matrix To: X-MDRemoteIP: 24.0.87.113 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sorry if you receive this twice, but I got a strange error the first time. Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if they wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided me, but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. Thanks for your time! Mike Matrix http: //www.mikematrix.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:42:06 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:40:28 -0800 To: Michael Matrix , From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas I can attest to the "cleanliness" of the bike. I was in HOM Saturday and looked at the PC. I thought it couldn't be fore sale. Knowing that Bruce rode a Red one, I asked him. He said he does have someone interested in it and they were trying to decide if they should buy it. Since Mike is sending this email, I assume they did not buy it yet, but if someone is looking to replace a older PC, they could not go wrong with this bike. Jim Alexander At 03:09 PM 03/05/2001, Michael Matrix wrote: > >Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have >decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it >quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of >Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in >excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two >years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please >spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if they >wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com > >I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided me, >but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. > >Thanks for your time! > >Mike Matrix > >http: //www.mikematrix.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:37:58 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: PC 800 list , , Subject: Re: PC800: Headset/Mike Saga Continues I just ordered the 3/4 helmet headset from soundradio, it has a push to talk button that is index finger activated, I will give a report of how it works out hopefully next week, the price about$60 delivered seemed reasonable too. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Tony Miller cc: David Kelly , "Michael D. Linkous" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Carb Synch: Cheapest Way Yet of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:54:12 PST." <20010305145412.10591.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:07:42 -0600 Tony Miller writes: > The best method I've found is to find a buddy who knows how > to do it and has all the tools. :-) I've done that in the past! And now I'm on the other end returning the favor(s). -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:27:45 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas From: Michael Matrix To: X-MDRemoteIP: 24.0.87.113 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Per request, I am describing my PC in better detail, and ask for forgiveness for not listing it for sale here 1st. =) ANYONE who wants to make an offer directly to me can do so, it does NOT have to be sold through HOM, I honestly forgot about the PC800 list until this morning. =) Please take a look at http://www.mikematrix.org/bike.htm to see pictures of it. The only real accessories I put on the bike are Saeng Stealth Edging (which did help the wind buffeting) and heated handgrips, still awaiting a switch. I do have one item that I will throw in that is _not at HOM_, I have a Wong Wing, with 3rd brake LEDs. The trunk lid is already fitted for it, but I have never had it on. (yet another item I forgot about Friday when I brought it to consignment, the wedding is consuming my thoughts =) ) I would vastly prefer to sell it to a lister, but my primary concern is speed, my wedding is in less that 4 weeks and it is not paid for. Take care everyone! > > Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have > decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it > quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of > Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in > excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two > years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please > spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if they > wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com > > I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided me, > but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. > > Thanks for your time! > > Mike Matrix > > http: //www.mikematrix.org > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:37:09 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "'Kenneth Winter'" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Mityvac Online - Catalog-Kits Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:37:31 -0600 Importance: Normal > While shopping for a Mity-Vac pump to bleed hydraulics systems > I have found a company offering a special price for the system of $27.00 plus shipping. I'm not sure if you have O'Reilly's Autoparts Centres in your area or not, however, they sell the Mity-Vac for $29.95 as their regular price, not on sale. Perhaps it would be cheaper than the advertised $27.00 if you include the shipping. I do know that if you take an ad in they will match the price as well, perhaps you could get them to spring for the $27.00. Best wishes, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "James Farkas" To: "Glen Sansoucie" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: New to list. . . Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:43:41 -0500 > Name: Glen Sansoucie > Location: South Berwick, Maine > Email: gsansoucie@mediaone.net > PC Model year (if you have one): 1998 I have 97. > back). The bike had 4800 miles on it and was in pristine condition. It had Mine had 951 upon delivery. > Unfortunately the sales[kid] didn't know anything about the bike, or how to Same here. > I am planning on installing a [HAM] radio sometime this spring (KB1GEN). If > there are any PC-HAM's out there that have mounted an antenna on the PC, I'd I've decided to pass on a radio of any kind. But I've thought about it at length. I'd try a wire (19.25" @ 146 Mhz) with a very light amount of epoxy glue on the edge of the windshield on one side. I would try 18 to 20 guage solid copper wire. Then ground to the frame. Bell wire with the insulator stripped off would work. If you're really good, put one on both sides and phase them. Crazy idea. More down to earth, if you add a Givi top box you could mount a MNO mount into the Givi mount plate and use a Larsen 5/8 wave and ground to the frame. Or mount the antenna to the top of the Givi and epoxy copper wires inside the box, radiating from the mount point like bicycle wheel spokes. In any event, your body will cause distortion of the radiation pattern. I don't suggest helmet mounted antennas. Aside from microwaving your coconut you'd need a groundplane with wires inside the helmet to make it work and sweat may get you an RF burn. Even 2 watts will give you a buzz. Not good when you're riding a scooter. I've been a ham since 1979 and mess with antennas mostly. The PC is a great scooter. Remember: Hammamatsu is probably a cleaner city than Milwakee. The Japanese are a friendly people. And the Pacific Coast borders not only the west coast of the US, but the east coast of Japan. But most importantly, summer's a-comin'. 73 and welcome to the list. jf James Farkas Evil Network Administrator Ellwood City, PA USA Academy of Model Aeronautics #687374 Radio Amateur KA3CYW Honda Pacific Coast PC800 Gloucester 22 s/v me@jamesfarkas.com http://www.jamesfarkas.com God bless the Internet. -- "American Pie" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Wakefield, Steve L." cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: $$ for carb synch? of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:59:00 CST." Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:13:03 -0600 From: David Kelly "Wakefield, Steve L." writes: > > Having never done the job, I wonder how accurately you must get the carbs in > sync. Is a 5mmHg variation between carbs OK, or does the single mmHg > precision of the TwinMax really make a difference? I think 1/4" (roughly 5mm) is about the limit of accuracy of what the PC carbs can hold for even a short time. I think your reviewers are splitting hairs trying to make something out of nothing in order to have something to say. Also remember (for balancing) a mercury manometer is 100% accurate all the time. The only limit is your eyesight. If using a mechanical or electronic gauge you could always take the measurement, swap the hoses and note the readings again. If readings are different then your gauges are different. Split the difference when you sync the carbs. And don't worry about the absolute error. The only thing that matters is the carbs are balanced. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Clay Leihy" cc: "Wakefield, Steve L." , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Carb. Synch tool. of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:27:01 EST." <000e01c0a5b2$a2e740c0$6401a8c0@home> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:15:11 -0600 "Clay Leihy" writes: > > The way I understand it is that you pick one carb as a "reference", then > sync the others, one by one, to it. I think that you would start with the > one where the throttle cable attaches, and work your way down the line. Tried to do that once on twin with a single gauge. Its not fun. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Kenneth Winter" cc: "Pacific Coast mailing list" From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Mitty Vac of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:21:22 EST." <003d01c0a587$f09d9100$28a18ed1@w9z2e3> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:28:14 -0600 I have one each of the metal and plastic Mitivacs. Have been very disappointed in their performance for changing brake fluid. I find it easier to simply pump the fluid out using the existing master cylinder. The problem with sucking brake fluid out the bottom is that its easy for air to pull in around the threads of the nipple. Even when the threads are sealed (wheel bearing grease is good) the Mityvac isn't very mighty. If I changed brake fluid in something more than once every 6 to 12 months then I'd invest in one which *pushes* the new fluid thru the system from the top. Would require a custom cap for each vehicle. If you have a problem brake line with a bubble in it, you will never suck it out from the bottom. The only way is to push it out from the top with a continuous unpulsed flow. This is how all manufacturers do your brakes for the first time. The difference between the metal and plastic Mitivacs is the metal one can push as well as pull. They *are* useful for some things. Such as for keeping the PC's vacuum actuated fuel valve open when sync'ing carbs. Or for diagnosing the vacuum operated HVAC controls on a 1983 Porsche 928S. "Kenneth Winter" writes: > > ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A55E.068A2700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for bleeding = > brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments about the = > device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have been = > using? > > Kenneth Winter =20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A55E.068A2700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
Where can I purchase the one man, hand = > operated=20 > vacuum pump for bleeding brakes and clutches?  Several list member = > have=20 > made comments about the device.   Does it = > work better=20 > than the big syringe that I have been using?
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A55E.068A2700-- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop6.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 01:32:14 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:39:10 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "pc800 list, pc" Subject: PC800: Presidentail Tour Some of you may remember last year hearing me talk about the I've Been Everywhere Tour. This year Team Strange is putting on a similar contest The Presidential Tour. All the rules haven't been finalized but really, who cares about the rules. The point of this is nothing more than an excuse to get out and ride. Go to http://www.teamstrange.com to get an entry form and to see what the basic concept will be. Maybe we can have an iPCRC competition within the Presidential Tour?? Cars transport the body. Motorcycles transport the soul. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:43:06 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: RVPC800@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu It's an extremely long jacket! Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:46:52 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fun in the sun To: BillandScoot@cs.com, gsansoucie@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I've been trying to get west for about three years... Any help woud be appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: "Kenneth Winter" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Mitty Vac Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:08:36 -0800 I purchased mine on ebay, new in box, some months ago. Lee Bar9ker (the 9 is silent) 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenneth Winter=20 To: Pacific Coast mailing list=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: PC800: Mitty Vac Where can I purchase the one man, hand operated vacuum pump for = bleeding brakes and clutches? Several list member have made comments = about the device. Does it work better than the big syringe that I have = been using? Kenneth Winter =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: "Kenneth Winter" , "Dave Steven" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: One-man Brake Bleeders Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:09:22 -0800 One-man Brake Bleeders or 85700 $69.95 Taiwan made Dave I think I ended up paying 39 bucks. Lee bucks.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:52:55 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas From: Michael Matrix To: X-MDRemoteIP: 24.0.87.113 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have one additional accessory I forgot to mention, it has a Brookstone clock on the dash. =) Thanks to Jim Alexander for pointing that out. Per request, I am describing my PC in better detail, and ask for forgiveness for not listing it for sale here 1st. =) ANYONE who wants to make an offer directly to me can do so, it does NOT have to be sold through HOM, I honestly forgot about the PC800 list until this morning. =) Please take a look at http://www.mikematrix.org/bike.htm to see pictures of it. The only real accessories I put on the bike are Saeng Stealth Edging (which did help the wind buffeting) and heated handgrips, still awaiting a switch. I do have one item that I will throw in that is _not at HOM_, I have a Wong Wing, with 3rd brake LEDs. The trunk lid is already fitted for it, but I have never had it on. (yet another item I forgot about Friday when I brought it to consignment, the wedding is consuming my thoughts =) ) I would vastly prefer to sell it to a lister, but my primary concern is speed, my wedding is in less that 4 weeks and it is not paid for. Take care everyone! > > Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have > decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it > quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of > Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in > excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two > years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please > spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if they > wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com > > I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided me, > but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. > > Thanks for your time! > > Mike Matrix > > http: //www.mikematrix.org > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:50:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:44:41 -0600 Subject: PC800: Tail Light To: PC 800 list Reply-to: ccaronna@swbell.net Hey Guys, Just go my GiVi 460 with the tail/brake light installed. The brake light seems to work intermittently. If I push up on the main bracket connection, (the one that stays on the bike when you remove the box) it will work fine. If I ride for a while it is like the connection pulls away. Pushing down on the box does nothing. Only pushing up on the plug that stays in the bracket makes the lights work again if they stop. I also found some Vaseline like grease on the bottom box connection and cleaned it off thinking that would help. But when I got home today, they seemed to be dim. When I pushed up on the bracket connection they got brighter. Anyone else experience this problem? Chris in Corpus "Red Tide" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:13:07 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Presidentail Tour To: rickcorwn@qwest.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" rickcorwn@qwest.net writes: >Some of you may remember last year hearing me talk about the >I've Been Everywhere Tour. This year Team Strange is putting >on a similar contest The Presidential Tour. All the rules >haven't been finalized but really, who cares about the >rules. The point of this is nothing more than an excuse to >get out and ride. Go to http://www.teamstrange.com to get >an entry form and to see what the basic concept will be. >Maybe we can have an iPCRC competition within the >Presidential Tour?? > >Cars transport the body. >Motorcycles transport the soul. > >Rick Corwine >Chanhassen, MN >1995 "Raven" >-- Thanks for the info Rick. This looks like it will be a blast. Hopefully there will be quite a few towns in the Northeast and Mid Atlantic states. I like your idea of a iPCRC competition as well. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:46:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andrew J. Carroll, MD" To: Subject: PC800: Tire change Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:44:29 -0700 Importance: Normal Just recently bought a PC800. Want to change the rear tire that had a plug put in it. Is it okay to just change the rear tire? They're Metzelers, I want to put on Dunlops. Or is that not a good idea. The front tire is not perfectly treaded, but it isn't bad. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:13:56 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: pc800list Subject: PC800: Forks and spring modifications NON PC What are the negative effects of adding a 2 inch spacer to increase the preload in a Front fork? I am seaching for an easy way to increase the fork resistance on a street/trail bike. I replaced the fork oil and added a 2 inch PVC spacer. I want a knowledgable word to confirm that the forks will not be damaged by my modification, or at the very least tell me that the end caps will not shoot me in the face when I hit the first hard bump. Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 04:16:34 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:23:44 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "PC800 Rider" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Presidentail Tour Tim, I knew that you'd be one of the first to jump on this idea. To quote you "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" This should provide plenty of excuses. "A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." Lao Tzu Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" PC800 Rider wrote: > > rickcorwn@qwest.net writes: > >Some of you may remember last year hearing me talk about the > >I've Been Everywhere Tour. This year Team Strange is putting > >on a similar contest The Presidential Tour. All the rules > >haven't been finalized but really, who cares about the > >rules. The point of this is nothing more than an excuse to > >get out and ride. Go to http://www.teamstrange.com to get > >an entry form and to see what the basic concept will be. > >Maybe we can have an iPCRC competition within the > >Presidential Tour?? > > > >Cars transport the body. > >Motorcycles transport the soul. > > > >Rick Corwine > >Chanhassen, MN > >1995 "Raven" > >-- > > Thanks for the info Rick. This looks like it will be a blast. Hopefully there > will be quite a few towns in the Northeast and Mid Atlantic states. I like your > idea of a iPCRC competition as well. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > IPCRC #4 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:24:23 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "pc800list" Subject: Re: PC800: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:22:31 -0600 Not knowing what I am talking about (NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE) I will guess that it will sprung your springs fairly quickly so you end up having to buy new ones. Jusaguess. Then again, if they is saggin that far already, you prolly can't hurt em. Again, jusaguess. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" > What are the negative effects of adding a 2 inch spacer to increase the > preload in a Front fork? > I am seaching for an easy way to increase the fork resistance on a > street/trail bike. > I replaced the fork oil and added a 2 inch PVC spacer. > I want a knowledgable word to confirm that the forks will not be > damaged by my modification, or at the very least tell me that the end > caps will not shoot me in the face when I hit the first hard bump. > > Kenneth Winter > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:46 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Tire change Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:34:38 -0600 Most folks go through a tire and a half or two on the rear for every one on the front. I know the manufacturers discourage running mixed brands but that is pretty easy to see through. I know there are a few on the list that have mixed and lived. I have a Metz on the back and a Dunlop on the front. When the Dunlop gets worn down, I have a Bridgestone to replace it with. Just test the ride and handling out after a change before you go out canyon carving. YMMV. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andrew J. Carroll, MD" > Just recently bought a PC800. Want to change the rear tire that had a plug > put in it. Is it okay to just change the rear tire? They're Metzelers, I > want to put on Dunlops. Or is that not a good idea. The front tire is not > perfectly treaded, but it isn't bad. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:48:41 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:51:46 -0500 To: Kenneth Winter From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Cc: pc800list At 11:13 PM -0500 3/5/01, Kenneth Winter wrote: > >I want a knowledgable word to confirm that the forks will not be >damaged by my modification, or at the very least tell me that the >end caps will not shoot me in the face when I hit the first hard >bump. Go for it Kenneth. I really wouldn't worry about those end caps hitting you in the face. Based on my rough calculations, I figure they would clear the top of *your* head by at least 4 inches... Be glad you aren't 6 foot something.... he he he fsl ;-) -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada , but currently in Chicago, IL 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:07:39 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:15:22 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) CC: pc800list Subject: Re: PC800: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Ken, I have done the same thing as you have, but only by a 1/4 an inch, not 2 inches. It is my GUESS that you are going to get into "coil bind." This happens when the fork spring collapses and the coils are metal to metal, that is, their touching each other. Not a good situation to be into. My guess is that your going to be in a world of hurt. Once the coils are in a bound state, they rebound violently. I wouldn't want to be riding that machine. Here's a suggestion. In my earlier days of dirt biking, we used to drill out the fork caps & install a schraeder valve. Pump in some LOW pressure & you will be good to go. (start at 5 psi) Don't go over 15 psi, you will blow out your seals. Blue Skies....... Stan 98 PC 00 YZ 250 R/C airplanes 2 Cats Steve Wilson wrote: > Not knowing what I am talking about (NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE) I will guess > that it will sprung your springs fairly quickly so you end up having to > buy new ones. Jusaguess. Then again, if they is saggin that far already, > you prolly can't hurt em. Again, jusaguess. > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Winter" > > > What are the negative effects of adding a 2 inch spacer to increase > the > > preload in a Front fork? > > I am seaching for an easy way to increase the fork resistance on a > > street/trail bike. > > I replaced the fork oil and added a 2 inch PVC spacer. > > I want a knowledgable word to confirm that the forks will not be > > damaged by my modification, or at the very least tell me that the end > > caps will not shoot me in the face when I hit the first hard bump. > > > > Kenneth Winter > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:59:04 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:55:53 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- > --- Carl Luft wrote: > > I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a > > rubber band and cover it when it rains. > > Why? > > The III+ is waterproof. It is suppose to be able to handle 1 meter > under water for 30 minutes. > > ===== > Later > Roger R I power my unit using external power. I don't like the idea of getting the connector all soakin wet. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:06:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:03:01 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Luft" > > I have a Garmin III+ mounted on the dash. I carry a plastic bag and a > rubber > > band and cover it when it rains. The III+ is a nice size for PC and i > > mounted it using silicone rubber and the swivel mount. I didn't trust the > > velcro that it came with. > > The III+ is very waterproof, that was why I selected it over the e-map. Mine > has been out in some pretty good down pours and never missed a beat. You > can see pictures of how I mounted it at: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=9243876&f=0 > > Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Will; Do you power your III+ using batteries or external power?. I use power from the PC and the thought of water soaking into the plug kinda scared me. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 06:58:55 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Tire change To: sandiegonative@home.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" sandiegonative@home.com writes: >Just recently bought a PC800. Want to change the rear tire that had a plug >put in it. Is it okay to just change the rear tire? They're Metzelers, I >want to put on Dunlops. Or is that not a good idea. The front tire is not >perfectly treaded, but it isn't bad. I have found the Metzeler ME880 to be better on the front than the Dunlop K555 so I would stay with the Metzeler myself. I have 22,000 miles on both ME880's now and need a new rear tire this spring. The front has a few thousand miles of life left. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:20:44 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Forks and spring modifications NON PC tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) writes: > Here's a suggestion. In my earlier days of dirt biking, we used to > drill out the fork caps & install a schraeder valve. Pump in some > LOW pressure & you will be good to go. (start at 5 psi) Don't go > over 15 psi, you will blow out your seals. I've owned several bikes with air valves on the front forks. This is no different from increasing the spring preload, except that air pressure increases seal stiction, which is not a desirable trait. This may explain why we see very few bikes with this feature any more. Since Kenneth is working with a dual purpose bike with, presumably, a long travel front suspension, I assume the main problem is excessive front end dive under braking. A better approach would be to put more oil in each fork leg. Pull the spring from one leg, insert a yard stick, and measure the distance at full extension from the top of the fork tube to the top of the oil. Start with an extra half inch of oil. Put the spring back in, and repeat on the other leg. If this isn't enough, another half inch, etc. More oil means less air space, so the air pressure goes up faster as the forks compress. The forks will still have plenty of compliance over small bumps, but they will stiffen up faster as they compress. Don't take it too far, however, or you risk blowing seals on a big bump. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom Torok" To: "Revill Dunn" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Used oil Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:39 +1100 I also collect my used oil, in a drum of about 20 gallons. Why??: Oil companies here love to take back motorcycle sump oil because it is usually of such high quality that it is worth their while, and it helps be stop cluttering up the place with old oil in small containers, and it's the responsible thing to do - to conserve - and protect this planet for our children. Tom & 'The Trannie'. =============================== from the Friendly Fingers of Tom Torok +61 2 93446252 (h) + 61 0410 649090(m) ----------Life is for LIVING---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: Cc: "Faught, Kevin, BMSLS" Subject: PC800: need delivery help for Matrix's PC Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:41:06 -0800 Hi Coasters-- I have made an offer to Michael Matrix for his PC but it is contingent = on getting it northward in an economical fashion. Owning two PCs was = not on my budget radar! In short form, the need would be to get it from (I assume) Honda of = Milpitas to either Pleasanton, CA or someplace in Northern California I = could reach in a day to pick it up. =20 I am in Redmond, Oregon. My best man lives in Pleasanton; Michael is selling the bike because he = is getting married. There is some poetry in this whole possibility. If you can offer some help or suggestions in this adventure, I'm eager = to hear from you. I will be checking email early afternoon then after 9pm tonight. If you wish to call at work (I'm the boss--it's ok!) after 1:30 pm would = be best: 541-923-0808. Thanks for your consideration -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:58:26 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 06:56:19 -0800 To: "Lee" , From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: need delivery help for Matrix's PC Cc: "Faught, Kevin, BMSLS" Kevin, Pleasanton is only about 20 or 25 miles to Milpitas. Did you know that Milpitas is in the Bay Area between Fremont and San Jose? Jim Alexander At 06:41 AM 03/06/2001, Lee wrote: >Hi Coasters-- > >I have made an offer to Michael Matrix for his PC but it is contingent on >getting it northward in an economical fashion. Owning two PCs was not on >my budget radar! > >In short form, the need would be to get it from (I assume) Honda of >Milpitas to either Pleasanton, CA or someplace in Northern California I >could reach in a day to pick it up. > >I am in Redmond, Oregon. > >My best man lives in Pleasanton; Michael is selling the bike because he is >getting married. There is some poetry in this whole possibility. > >If you can offer some help or suggestions in this adventure, I'm eager to >hear from you. > >I will be checking email early afternoon then after 9pm tonight. > >If you wish to call at work (I'm the boss--it's ok!) after 1:30 pm would >be best: 541-923-0808. > >Thanks for your consideration -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id JAA123767881 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Carl Luft" , "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: FRS radio output -- antennas Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:13:08 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" > > Do you power your III+ using batteries or external power?. I use power from > the PC and the thought of water soaking into the plug kinda scared me. I use external power when on the bike. It is wired through a fuse panel to the battery. That's the way it is designed and has never given me a problem. Will Edwards will.ride@verizon.net Washington state http://www.wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... .... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:14:34 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Yankee Tire change Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:14:34 Why are you replacing a rear tire thats been pluged? How long has the plug been in the tire? As long as you don't do over 75 mph, that plug, if professionally installed, should last the tread life of the tire (contrary to the lawyerly BS the tire company says). Don't be stupid, keep the speed legal and you should be fine. I've ridden thousand of miles at LEGAL freeway speed with a pluged rear tire. As for which tire to select....I've had K555 and ME880s on my bike. I think the Dunlops last a bit longer and seem to have better wet grip than the Metzelers. They also seemed better balanced than the Metzelers, less head shake. But the Metzlelers are quieter and better handling on rain grooves. But then the Dunlops are usually cheaper. What do you prefer? As for replacing the rear and not the front.... I think messing around with mixing tires of different treads, brands and wear is usually a bad idea. Unless that rear tire is really a lot more worn than the front, I'd replace both tires with the same brand at same time. If the rear tire is much more worn than the front (and you do only a little two up riding) I'd wonder why it was more worn. Most tour bikers I've known do not wear out the rear tire much before the front. Tour bikes in general, and especially the PC's, weight is well distributed over both wheels.... certainly much better than most cruisers. Plus most tour bikers don't trash rear tires like some sport bikers do. Anyway, I've had other bikes that have had real handling problems mixing tire brands, treads and wear. So I've not tried mixing tires on a PC. (I found that replacing the rear and not replacing the front on my old 1985 CB-650 Nighthawk was a big mistake.) What I have noticed on my PC is that when the front tire gets down to its last couple of thousand miles I've experianced more head shake than I feel comfortable with, plus you really lose braking efficency with a tire thats down to its last 15%. Then there is the flat factor... I've had several flats over 20 years of riding. All but one has been in tires that are down to the last 20%. More wear means less tread to keep that stupid screw out. So I'd say that if you really need to replace the rear tire because of tread wear (not because of the plug) buy both tires, balance them and check the front brake pads while you've got it all up on the lift. Otherwise wait until you start getting uncomfortable amounts of head shake or the tread's worn down to an unsafe point. >From: "PC800 Rider" >To: sandiegonative@home.com >CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Tire change >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 06:58:55 -0500 > >sandiegonative@home.com writes: > >Just recently bought a PC800. Want to change the rear tire that had a >plug > >put in it. Is it okay to just change the rear tire? They're Metzelers, >I > >want to put on Dunlops. Or is that not a good idea. The front tire is >not > >perfectly treaded, but it isn't bad. > >I have found the Metzeler ME880 to be better on the front than the Dunlop >K555 >so I would stay with the Metzeler myself. I have 22,000 miles on both >ME880's >now and need a new rear tire this spring. The front has a few thousand >miles of >life left. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 >IPCRC #4 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Garbacik To: Lee cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: need delivery help for Matrix's PC Gee Lee - I would be willing to ride it from Corvallis to Redmond. Maybe we could get a PC800 relay team organized! Let's see . . . Milpitas to say Sacramento, Sacramento to Redding, Redding to Ashland, Ashland to . . . Tom '89 Moonbeam Corvallis, OR On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Lee wrote: > Hi Coasters-- > > I have made an offer to Michael Matrix for his PC but it is contingent on getting it northward in an economical fashion. Owning two PCs was not on my budget radar! > > In short form, the need would be to get it from (I assume) Honda of Milpitas to either Pleasanton, CA or someplace in Northern California I could reach in a day to pick it up. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:26:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:26:43 -0300 Hi: I saw this msg. , from Doug Allis, that he owned a 1985 CB650, same bike I owned before the PC. So, I'm wondering, is there a statistic made in the past, about this? I mean, where we all came from? I guess I or anyone else can setup a poll in the pc800digest egroups/yahoo site, so we don't choke the list with replys :-) Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:44:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:44:22 Selling your motorcycle to finance your wedding? You are making a big mistake! My fiance, now wife, would have never let me do that! If she had I probably would not have married her. Certainly we wouldn't be still married (almost 15 years). There are alternatives: less expensive wedding, more debt and/or differrent girl! Yikes the stupid things guys do for a SWMBO!!!!! This is serious. Not a joke. This guy is in trouble!!!! This list must come up with alternatives for this guy. He may still have time to back out (of either the sale and/or the too expensive wedding)! >At 03:09 PM 03/05/2001, Michael Matrix wrote: >> >>Hello everyone, after a couple of years as a Pacific Coast rider I have >>decided to sell. At one time I used to read this list every day, but it >>quickly overran my mailbox. =) My bike is now on consignment at Honda of >>Milpitas in Milpitas, CA ( http://www.hondamil.com ) It is a 1998, in >>excellent condition, just went over 10K miles (10060 I think), with two >>years of warranty left. I am selling it to finance my wedding, so please >>spread the word. =) Anyone who is interested may contact me directly if >>they >>wish. mmatrix@mikematrix.org , or mmatrix@onebox.com >> >>I will sorely miss the bike, and the comfort and luxury it has provided >>me, >>but I know it will go to a good owner if someone from the list buys it. >> >>Thanks for your time! >> >>Mike Matrix >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:44:39 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Poll Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:44:39 -0300 Hi, Well, I'm kinda anxious guy, so I'm answering my own post :-) So I went to the egroups/yahoo site and created the poll. Sorry if I left some option out, that's all I could remember at that moment. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pc800digest/surveys?id=583682 Best regards, Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom Torok" To: "Kenneth Winter" , "pc800list" Subject: Re: PC800: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:56:12 +1100 Ken, DON'T DO IT!!!!!! That is far too much preload. Consult a spring/shock makers website for the way to figure-out what spring rate YOU & your usual range of passenger and cargo needs. Yes, 2 inch spacers will put you in 'a world of hurt'. The right springs for your weight are not expensive. A $100 spent on springs/damping is worth o $1000 spent on engine mods in terms of being able to realise the potential performance of a vehicle. I presume the PC800 does not have cartridge forks so dual or progressive rate springs would suit. If cartridge or cartridge-emulators, use single rate springs. In general, to see if the spring and or preload is correctly adjusted, get a friend to help as you take some measurements: Find out the suspension travel for front . Consult manual. Straddle bike and extend forks 'til they bottom out (reverse a little with front brake on or jack front up so wheel is just off ground). measure from a convenient point on sliders (axle nut is good) to, say, bottom of headlight. Try to take as vertical a measure as possible. Note figure. Now, get off bike (remove jack), but hold bike by handlebars and let it settle to it's own free height. Measure and note figure again. Push gently up and down on bars and measure again, so as to get a more accurate average figure, several times, especially if the fork sliders tend to stick a little. This free-sag figure should not be more then about an inch on a plush-riding road bike like the PC (half inch sports, upto two inches dirtbike) Here, these figures are not bible, and my memory is not best - consult a suspension professional/web site of, say, Ohlins, White Power or Race Tech. One more vital measure: Sit on bike, get close to wall or post, and balance bike in vertical position, using wall/post to place hand on to keep you upright (saves mess and paperwork) whilst placing both feet on pegs/footboards (one foot on each side ;-). Friend measures again from same point on slider to other previously used point on cowl (eg; bottom of headlight). Ideal sag should be 25% of suspension travel. If it's more than 25%, say 30%, then bump-up the preload adjuster or get stronger springs. If more still, definateley get stronger springs. If less (say 20% or less), get weaker springs or keep lots of beers in the bags, preferably tank-bags. Same deal for rear. Tom & 'The Trannie'. =============================== from the Friendly Fingers of Tom Torok 93446252 (h) 0410 649090(m) ----------Life is for LIVING---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:03:48 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: pc800black@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:03:48 >From: "Juanro ." >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Previous bike >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:26:43 -0300 > Hey hey, >I saw this msg. , from Doug Allis, that he owned a 1985 CB650, same bike I >owned before the PC. So, I'm wondering, is there a statistic made in the >past, about this? I mean, where we all came from?... I too own a '85 CBX650 Cuxtom (that's a Jap domestic edition, which is believed same as Nighthawk, or CB lines) before obtaining my 1st PC. My bike history is: '85 CBX650C -> '89 PC800 -> '84 GL1200A -> '90 PC800 -> '95 K75 -> '95 GL1500SE -> '94 CBX750P -> '77 CB550 Except the K75, they're all Hondas, and all shafties except the CB550. - Philips _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:07:38 EST Subject: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation To: dhallis@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/6/2001 10:45:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, dhallis@hotmail.com writes: > > > Selling your motorcycle to finance your wedding? You are making a big > mistake! My fiance, now wife, would have never let me do that! If she had > I probably would not have married her. Certainly we wouldn't be still > married (almost 15 years). > > There are alternatives: less expensive wedding, more debt and/or differrent > girl! > > Yikes the stupid things guys do for a SWMBO!!!!! > > This is serious. Not a joke. This guy is in trouble!!!! This list must come > up with alternatives for this guy. He may still have time to back out (of > either the sale and/or the too expensive wedding)! > > > I am totally serious about this proposal... If every list member proposes to send this man a "donation check" of $10 in lieu of selling his Pacific Coast, I in turn will also send him a donation of $10... Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC
I in turn will also send him a donation of $10...

Troy Doyle
'97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M
Summerville, SC Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:11:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:11:49 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > My bike history is: > > '97 PC800... '97 VFR750... '98 CBR600F3... '99 CN250 Helix... '83 XS400RK Seca 400 (Yamaha)... '78 DT125E... Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:21:55 -0500 From: "John T. Quinn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Targa Cycle Computer Is anyone interested in a Targa Cycle computer? I wanted to order one (about $20 American), but they won't ship an order to a credit card for less than about $75. So I need three or four others to order and get it shipped in a package. Information on the cycle computer was posted to this site a few days ago. John T. Quinn 1990 PC 800 "The Eagle" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:19:18 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:19:18 -0300 Troy: >'97 PC800... '97 VFR750... '98 CBR600F3... '99 CN250 Helix... '83 >XS400RK Seca 400 (Yamaha)... '78 DT125E... This is from today backwards to your first bike, isn't it? Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Juanro .'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:23:57 -0500 ...or it could be "erutuF eht hguorhT kcaB" -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Juanro . [mailto:pc800black@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:19 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike Troy: >'97 PC800... '97 VFR750... '98 CBR600F3... '99 CN250 Helix... '83 >XS400RK Seca 400 (Yamaha)... '78 DT125E... This is from today backwards to your first bike, isn't it? Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:39:30 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Poll (sorry) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:39:30 -0300 Hi: I added a "Scooter" option, but, sadly, the two other votes (besides mine) where lost. I apologize for that, I will not edit it any more, so please vote again and rest asured that the votes will not get lost again. Let's see what kind of profile can we get of that. Best regards, Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:35:39 -0800 From: "southpaw ..." To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation Well, I sold my CJ-7 which a swore I would never sell! Jeep owners are much like PC owners in that respect. Anyway ended up selling it to pay for the engagement ring! after 7 years togather a Cubic Zarconia just wasn't gonna cut it (-:, I aplaud him at least his fiance is #1 in his life, Maybe if more people put their relationships with that special somone ahead of that special machine there wouldn't be such a high divorce rate, or maybe then having no bike will be a great excuse to buy a new Goldwing (-;. Congrats on getting married hope all goes well, Mine is in Oct so I can relate! -- D.J. Los Angeles 89'PC -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:48:43 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: History: My history: Allstate (Puch) moped/scooter. Zundapp 90cc strangething Kawasaki/Honda/Yamaha Frankenstein bike I and a couple of friends put together out of leftovers. Suzuki X6 250, the wheeliemobile. 5 hp to 5000 rpm, then 35 to 7000. BSA Royal Star 500 twin, a wonderful machine if only it would run regularly. Yamaha "step thru" 50, that got over 150 mpg. and was both neglect and bulletproof. At one point, the starter lever broke and I started it with vise grips for several months until I got up the courage to split the cases and replace the shaft. Yamaha 305 Big Bear two stroke "big twin". Much more power than the BSA. FAR more reliable too. Only occasionally would seize at speed, and then usually let loose after a few minute cool down, no tools required. Honda 300 Dream, with Earles forks and pressed steel frame. Did two cross country camping trips on this early prototype of the PC. A truly wonderful motorcycle. Stout, enough power to cruse at 70 all day long with waaaay too much crap strapped on. Light enough that two people could pick it up and PUT it in a pickup. Yamaha 650 twin, the "long pipe" early version, not the cruiser. Stable, fairly fast and comfortable. Eyeball rattler above 70 mph. Motorcycles are starting to last a lot longer. Suzuki 850 four, my first shaftie, with the full Vetter treatment. BIG. HEAVY. Reliable, but wanted premium gas in the summer. Lasted forever, it seemed. Finally developed a warped head and oil leak that just wouldn't agree to being fixed. Yamaha 920 "Yamaduck" vee twin. Torque out the wazoo. Enclosed oil bath chain drive. Absolutely gobbled rear tires. Extreme fun at a stoplight due to mondo torque and tall 1st gear. Let out the clutch and you're doing 20 off idle. Another unbreakable bike. Bought it with 5,000 miles on the odometer, and 25,000 on the (not stock) front tire. Then I put another 80,000 miles on it. Wonderful touring mount with a shield and soft bags. Extremely comfortable long distance with short bars and the stock semi-rearset pegs. Finally sold it because the flywheel was just about gone; you had to try three or four times to light it up. Already replaced the bendix twice. Sold it to an Austrailian who wanted it bad enough, as is, to drive down from Dallas to collect it, for $300 less than I'd paid for it almost a decade earlier. Suzuki SV650 vee twin. Teeny, zippy little stealth crotch rocket. Looked like a standard, but riding position was more extreme than many egg bikes. 14,500 rpm redline. Loads of fun, but it HURT to ride for more than a half an hour. No center stand. Sold it for what I had in it after 2 weeks. And finally, Whirby the PC. Bought it from the head of the Texas DOT Motorcyle Safety division. Had 10,500 miles on it last march, 26,000 today. Not exciting, but does everything else so well... Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:00:50 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 14:00:49 -0300 Revill: >Not exciting, but does everything else so well... You're not leaning it enough (check your AL fluid). When you can call it "Sparky", you'll see where the excitment come from. :-) Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:22:16 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike To: pc800black@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/6/2001 11:25:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, pc800black@hotmail.com writes: > > > Troy: > >'97 PC800... '97 VFR750... '98 CBR600F3... '99 CN250 Helix... '83 > >XS400RK Seca 400 (Yamaha)... '78 DT125E... > > This is from today backwards to your first bike, isn't it? > > > Yep! Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:54:29 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:54:27 +0100 My bike history: '5? Mobylette Kaptein 50cc '6? Zundapp 50cc '8? Honda CB400T Hawk (Canadian import) '92 Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (Seca II in US) '90 Hona PC800 Pacific Coast '92 Honda ST1100 Pan European ABS/TCS (UK import) My own history: '74 Homo Sapiens (march 6, hint hint..: )) Emile www.piloot.com ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:59:20 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: History: At 15: Honda 50cc Moped (the one with pedals, so heavy and geared so low that your top speed under pedal power was well under 5mph) At 22: Honda Elite 125, the gold one with the pop-up headlight. At 27: Honda Helix 250, the queen of scooters At 30: '89 Pacific Coast At 35: '96 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:19:07 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:18:07 -0600 OK, here's a short one... First-- 1982 Suzuki GS-850L Second-- 1989 Pacific Coast (current) "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast --"STORMTROOPER" iPCRC# 245 mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:27:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:27:44 EST Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike To: Gee, Emile, you be a young pup.... My Bike History 84 Honda VT500 Ascot (only bike I've ever purchased new) 81 Suzuki GS650L 82 Suzuki GS850 (with the Vetter Touring setup) 97 Suzuki Intruder 800 96 Honda PC800 "Red Rover" 89 Honda PC800 "Lucky" 89 Honda PC800 "Singer" I've never had a bike with a chain drive.... Tom Fraser Manassas, VA 89 PC800 "Singer" In a message dated Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:55:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" writes: My own history: '74 Homo Sapiens (march 6, hint hint..: )) Emile>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:39:46 -0800 Okay everybody! In four-part harmony: Happy Birthday, to you! Happy Birthday, to you! Happy Birthday, dear Emile! Happy Birthday, to you! Congratulations! Now blow out the candles and make a wish! Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK [mailto:Emile.Nossin@klm.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:54 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike My bike history: '5? Mobylette Kaptein 50cc '6? Zundapp 50cc '8? Honda CB400T Hawk (Canadian import) '92 Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (Seca II in US) '90 Hona PC800 Pacific Coast '92 Honda ST1100 Pan European ABS/TCS (UK import) My own history: '74 Homo Sapiens (march 6, hint hint..: )) Emile www.piloot.com ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: History of personal bikes... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:52:05 -0500 >From start to finish: 1989 to 2001. 1973 CL350 Honda (Not worth the $100 + a chainsaw that I had in it. But, fun anyway.) 1986 Kawasaki EN450 or 454Ltd Cruiser. Revvy little parallel twin. 1/2 of a Ninja 900 engine. 1991 Honda CB750 Nighthawk. My first new bike. Was a terrific first "big bike". 1984 Honda Shadow 700. (had it along with the 91' n'hawk.) 1989 Transalp - Bought new in 1993. Traded the 'hawk for it. Already sold the Shadow. 1985 EN450 - Another 454Ltd. For the girlfriend who never rode it. Sold it 4 months later. Broke up with the girlfriend a few months after that. 1993 CB750 Nighthawk - Another non-current new bike. Bought in 1995 for exactly what I paid for the 91' in 91'. Still have the Transalp up until now then.......... {Crashed the first Transalp. Waited a little over a year and bought another one.} 1996 Pacific Coast. Bought new in 1998. Still have it and Transalp #2 at this time. -eddie "...and the road goes on forever." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:47:11 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" southpaw@bigvalley.net writes: > Maybe if more people put their relationships with that special somone ahead >of that special machine there wouldn't be such a high divorce rate, or maybe >then having no bike will be a great excuse to buy a new Goldwing (-;. >Congrats on getting married hope all goes well, Mine is in Oct so I can >relate! > >-- >D.J. >Los Angeles >89'PC If he truly put his relationship with her first then there would be a his and her Honda Pacific Coast in the new family:-) Nothing says loving like a bike for each. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Birthday! Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:53:05 -0500 Happy birthday from the land of Peaches and Peanuts, Emile! =) -eddie Columbus, Ga. USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:49:54 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile To: Bruce.Pickett@pss.boeing.com Cc: emile.nossin@klm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Bruce.Pickett@pss.boeing.com writes: >Okay everybody! In four-part harmony: > >Happy Birthday, to you! >Happy Birthday, to you! >Happy Birthday, dear Emile! >Happy Birthday, to you! > >Congratulations! Now blow out the candles and make a wish! > > >Bruce Pickett >Federal Way, WA >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" >http://www.members.home.com/bluepc We should have had a pre-birthday party for you in Toronto in January. Happy Birthday old man:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:56:52 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Emile's Bday Happy 27th, Emile! What do you want to be when you grow up? Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:58:56 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Edward H. Wahl" Subject: PC800: PC800 Wanted CA Hi Everyone, I have been subscribed to this list for a few months while I was actively looking for a PC800. Yesterday I found one, put a deposit on it, and bought airline tickets to pick it up in Los Angeles. Today I received a phone call that the bike was already sold when I placed my deposit. So I am back in the market for a Pacific Coast, any leads on one would be appreciated. I live in the San Francisco Bay area, and will be visiting LA over the weekend. Thanks, Ed -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:04:22 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Emile's Bday Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:04:18 +0100 > Happy 27th, Emile! What do you want to be when you grow up? > 28 Thanks guys : ), Emile > ---------- > From: Revill Dunn[SMTP:revill.dunn@legerity.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:56 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Emile's Bday > > Happy 27th, Emile! What do you want to be when you grow up? > > Revill > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:04:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:04:25 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hoppy birdy two ewe Hoppy birdy two ewe Hoppy birdy deer ewe Hoppy birdy two ewe. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:06:36 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Steven Subject: PC800: Ducktails:Duck tales Interestingly, someone mentioned in the History thread the Honda 305 Benley Touring model with Earles style front end (and a DA fender). It was also available in the late '60s as a 160 model if I remember correctly. I vaguely remember lusting after a blue one with a red seat. One could consider it the predecessor to the PC. It was an "odd duck" of sorts and smaller cousin to the then "hump tanked" Honda 450; the predecessor in kind to the eventual GL models. The Benley Touring models are now hot with collectors as they were unique (dare I say unloved by the mainstream). Our PC's are unloved as well; except by us of course. Hold onto them! Or at least save them for the grandkids. History has a way of repeating itself. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:18:32 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 14:15:23 -0300 Subject: PC800: Confirmation from REGARDS.COM Thanks for creating a custom greeting card at Joke A Day's= Greeting Cards http://www.jokeaday.com, the Internet's favorite= greeting card service. =09=09=09 This email is to confirm that a greeting pick-up notice was= successfully mailed to Emile at Emile@Piloot.com.. The greeting card ID is: 253-4070012-0301 The greeting was created on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 at 2:15 PM= EST. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:31:11 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Emile's Brithday! Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:30:11 -0600 Hey, Happy Birthday Emile!! I took the liberty of sending you an e-card from the gang here at the list! The rest of you can see it too at: http://www.jokeaday.com, the Internet's most popular greeting card service. Your greeting card ID is: 736-4070085-0301 To see your custom greeting card, simply visit the web address below (Don't forget to take along your card ID): http://www.jokeaday.com Your Card ID is: 736-4070085-0301 NOTE: If you experience trouble picking up your card at the above location, try this address: http://www.regards.com/getgreeting.cfm/180846 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:27:25 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:27:24 -0600 >From: "Pickett, Bruce D>Subject: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 27 !!!! A mere child, a babe in the woods !!! Why I have riding gloves older than that !! When I was 27 the motorcycle wheels were made of wood !! 27 !! Happy Birthday Emile. Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "The dust of the travelled Road, Shall touch my hands and face." Carl Sandburg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:37:09 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation To: PC800 Cindy mentioned to me once about selling the bike I had at the time. I just looked at her and laughed. Then said the only way that bike is leaving is when the replacement is in the garage. Now I have two bikes. ;-) Some say I am a lucky guy. Like the time last summer when Cindy asked if I loved my PC more then her and I said, 'Yes.' I am still alive to tell about it. Lee, I asked Cindy if I could hop over to CA the end of this month and ride your bike to your house instead of going with her and her friend to Vegas. She just laughed. Kind of the same way I did when she said we should sell the bike. Oh well, your on your own. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:39:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Look up your Honda history. Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:39:22 -0600 Hey gang, All this talk about what bikes came to each of us before the PC will have us all waxing nostalgic and crying in our beer before long. Honda has an identification manual that can answer all your questions about that model you loved but vaguely remember. It's called the Honda Identification Guide and goes for about 25 bucks from the local Honda dealer. I seem to remember they only put it out every couple of years and it covers all the models from the first Honda's imported up through the current model year. I love mine. Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "The dust of the travelled Road, Shall touch my hands and face." Carl Sandburg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:01:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:01:00 -0800 NOBODY on this list ever owned a Honda Magna? That sweet street machine of the '80s? My only bike previous to my '95 Coaster was an '86 VF700C Honda Magna. Four cylinders, shaft drive, a real beauty. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster >From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" >To: >Subject: Re: PC800: History: >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:18:07 -0600 > >OK, here's a short one... > >First-- 1982 Suzuki GS-850L >Second-- 1989 Pacific Coast (current) > >"May the COAST be with you!" > >Mike Gunderson >Davis, IL USA >1989 Pacific Coast --"STORMTROOPER" >iPCRC# 245 >mrgvideo@aeroinc.net >http://mrgunderson.tripod.com > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:27:23 -0800 Fuzzy Memories: (Some dates +/- a year or two). 1966/Age 5: No-name Briggs & Stratten-style Mini-Bike (borowed). 1968: 68' Kawasaki 'Coyote' 2-stroke Mini-bike (Kawasaki's first minibike). 1969~1972: 69' Kawasaki MT1, 75cc,3-speed w/auto-clutch and supsension - Indestructable! 1971: Also had an 'Artic Cat' mini-bike at the same time - Hard starting. 1972: 72' Kawasaki MC90, 90cc (Kawasaki's first 'mini-cycle', slow when hot, otherwise slow all the time. 1973: 73' Kawasaki G5, 100cc (My 1st full-size dirt bike). 1974: 74' Kawasaki KX125 (Kawasaki's first truely competitive motocrosser). 1976~1978: 74 Kawasaki S3 400 two-stroke triple (love that triple rumble) Serial number ______11, w/ missing seat trim (a pre-production model). 1976: Bought a 1969? Honda CL350 (High-pipe) literally in baskets. Rebuilt both chassis and engine completely (I wanted to understand the inner workings of a Honda (very interesting 'centrifugal oil filter'). Discovered 4-stroke torque - I like! 1978: 74' Kawasaki F7 175cc, Quite torqey for a two-stroke, lotsa fun. 1979: 74' Honda CB350 four (a smallish 400 lb bike, smooth as sewing machine). 1982: 80' Suzuki GS750 four w/ 'Rabid-Transit' Cafe faring and home-made rear-sets. Toured 13 states and 4 provinces of Canada. 1983: 83' Susuki GS750 four, QUICK and very light, but overshadowed by Honda's new Sabre. Poor left-side cornering clearance, yet unlimited right-side clearence (confusing!). 1985~1999: "The great void" Dec 1999~present: 95' Honda PC800, +7 Rifle, Neon Trim, Kimpex heated grips, 57,000 miles reliably served. Jeff Krause -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:48:51 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "REGARDS.COM" To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:53:43 (GMT) Subject: PC800: Greeting Card viewed by Emile (Emile@Piloot.com) * * * DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL * * * The greeting card you sent to Emile on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 has been viewed. The greeting card was viewed on: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 at 3:53 PM EST Thank you for sending greeting cards with REGARDS.COM. Send a FREE greeting card from REGARDS.COM whenever you want by visiting us at: http://www.regards.com Try out REGARDS.COM's Newest Features: Never forget a holiday or occasion again with Regards newest feature...regards Reminders. 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Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:30:11 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: southpaw@bigvalley.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:30:11 My marriage was in 1987. While my original e-mail was somewhat in jest, the serious undertone was that your marriage is better off if you both enjoy doing the same things and like like to do them together.... Mine loves to motorcycle as a passenger on my PC. If she doesn't like to motorcycle..... and you really like motorcycling, then you may have an "issue". You may resent selling the bike in a year and she might object to getting another. Then its too late for such serious issues..... If on the other hand motorcycling is only a passing phase, who cares? Sell the bike. >From: "southpaw ..." >To: , , >Subject: Re: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:35:39 -0800 > >Well, I sold my CJ-7 which a swore I would never sell! Jeep owners are >much like PC owners in that respect. Anyway ended up selling it to pay >for the engagement ring! after 7 years togather a Cubic Zarconia just >wasn't gonna cut it (-:, I aplaud him at least his fiance is #1 in his >life, Maybe if more people put their relationships with that special >somone ahead of that special machine there wouldn't be such a high divorce >rate, or maybe then having no bike will be a great excuse to buy a new >Goldwing (-;. Congrats on getting married hope all goes well, Mine is in >Oct so I can relate! > >-- >D.J. >Los Angeles >89'PC >-- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:34:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jdcpc" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:28:38 -0800 Dear, dear Roger, > Some say I am a lucky guy. I say you are a VERY lucky guy. Cindy is a real trooper, hung on through that whole Y2K ride, and complained VERY little . . . well, to us, anyway :) Those of us who know how hard it is to drag a mate along envy you and applaud Cindy! (Make sure you let her read this!! How's it goin', early-riser?) Joyce Sonoma County, Ca '96 YELLOW ROLLS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dppc800@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:43:10 EST Subject: Re: PC800: History: To: thekoppfamily@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I had a later model Magna. Here's my history: (I learned to ride in '92) 82 CX500 93 Shadow VLX 600 96 Magna VF750 98 Shadow VT750 98 PC800 99 CBR600F4 Dottie Powers 1998 PC800 "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dppc800@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:46:40 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Look up your Honda history. To: tourrider@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Which makes a great Christmas or birthday gift, BTW. I gave Tom one, and he thought it was pretty cool. Dottie Powers 1998 PC800 "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:50:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu My bike history: 1. 1968 to 1970: '65 Lube Ren (20K miles) 2. 1970 to 1973: '50 NSU (20K miles) 3. 1975 to 1979: '73 Honda CL360 (60K miles) 4. 1979 to 1998: '79 CX500 (120K miles -still have it!) 5. 1998 to present: '95 PC800 - (52K miles so far) Jesus Soriano '95 PC "Raquel" San Diego, California __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:56:52 -0500 From: sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us Cc: rickcorwn@qwest.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Presidential Tour Tim, I stayed up well past my bedtime last night figuring out possible routes for the Presidential tour. There are gobs of locations in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. For a list of counties, go to http://www.naco.org/counties/queries/index.cfm This will let you search counties by name. My understanding of the rules is that you collect locations based on city/town names as well as county names. Street Atlas 7.0 is helpful, but somewhat overly specific. The Rand McNally Tripmaker was much easier to use when trying to find multiple instances of the same name. Fo a "quickie" reference, www.weather.com is very useful. If there are multipler instances of the same name, it will list the locations and ask which one you want.... Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD "PC800 Rider" wrote: > > rickcorwn@qwest.net writes: > >Some of you may remember last year hearing me talk about the > >I've Been Everywhere Tour. This year Team Strange is putting > >on a similar contest The Presidential Tour. All the rules > >haven't been finalized but really, who cares about the > >rules. The point of this is nothing more than an excuse to > >get out and ride. Go to http://www.teamstrange.com  to get > >an entry form and to see what the basic concept will be. > >Maybe we can have an iPCRC competition within the > >Presidential Tour?? > > > >Cars transport the body. > >Motorcycles transport the soul. > > > >Rick Corwine > >Chanhassen, MN > >1995 "Raven" > >-- > > Thanks for the info Rick. This looks like it will be a blast. Hopefully there > will be quite a few towns in the Northeast and Mid Atlantic states. I like your > idea of a iPCRC competition as well. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > IPCRC #4 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dppc800@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:00:54 EST Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Well, said, Tim. Tom and I have had matching PC's. Dottie Powers 1998 PC800 "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 22:33:14 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "PC800 group" Subject: PC800: Getting TRIP ready...plus Cruise control info... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:50:04 +1000 Hi guys!=20 Well I am off work again till late April, but too short for an overseas = trip, so will take the PC down to Canberra for a week or so, they are = opening the National Museum of Australia...and that's as good an excuse = as any for a ride!!=20 Its about 1200k. each way, I will be a sissy and take 2 days each = trip...bought a new battery today...there really is only one kind to buy = here, I thought it was expensive as the price has gone from $57 to $95 = for the SAME battery since 1995 when I last bought it, but as I was = complaining about the price the mathematically challenged clerk brought = me a 5 and a 10 from my two 50's...so.....that's better! And besides.....our $$ has dropped from .80 to .52 US$ since then, = too....so that makes it cheaper still, right? Ah yes, I went and looked at the latest AP50 cruise, it seems very = light....say 5/6 lbs., so should be about $20us$ to air mail. Also, they = have changed the set/cruise control unit, it is now a square quite = small, I was unable to open the box, but I think it would glue onto the = gray plastic just to the right of the left handlegrip real well.... And if anyone wants to look at the new museum.... www.nma.gov.au Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Importance: Normal ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Gregory Pius" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:54:28 -0500 03/06/2001 05:54:31 PM Keep the bike and sell the fiance. Gregory (Your Friendly Neighborhood Sysadmin) <.sig> Gregory Pius, System Administrator IBM Advanced Technologies, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida piusg@us.ibm.com Tie Line 599-6940 - Voice (954)-958-6940 - Mobile (954)-658-2566 "In my world, there is a cookie..." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:58:24 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: Subject: RE: PC800: Re:For sale Honda Mil IS:Donation Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:58:41 -0600 Importance: Normal > I am totally serious about this proposal... If every list member proposes to > send this man a "donation check" of $10 in lieu of selling his Pacific Coast, > I in turn will also send him a donation of $10... > Troy Doyle I'll put in $10.00 for the cause, even if everyone doesn't antie up. I too feel that it is a real shame to have to make a decision such as this. The of the biggest mistakes I made was to get rid of all my toys when my kids were growing up. I thought that I couldn't afford it, but in reality, I found other ways to spend my money foolishly anyway and robbed myself of the enjoyment of riding for many years. Let me know where to send the money. Mi dos centavos, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:11:55 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Bob Patterson Subject: PC800: ah, memories... Just seeing if I can remember 30+ years ago... 1965 Honda 160 1966 BSA 650 Lightning 1949 Vincent Black Shadow 1936 Brough-Superior SS80 1950 Ariel Square Four Cafe Racer 1957 Ariel Square Four with Stieb 1966 Triumph Bonneville 1982 Gold Wing with chair 1971 Suzuki 750 Buffalo (California Burgandy) 1950 Velocette MAC350 1960 Allstate Riverside 350 (Bennelli) 1995 PC800 Bob in cold as heck Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license ccb8caeef0ed901c5fc113ae35571e60) for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:33:05 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Re: History Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:31:29 +0100 Old as a farth when I bough my first bike at 22 ! 1972-74 1972 Honda CB 450 twin 1974-75 1938 BMW R-12 with sidecar 1974-1978 Moto Guzzi 850 T from 1975 with sidecar 1976 -1980 Honda XL 250 1984-1985 Yamaha XT 660 ?? 1989-1998=20 Triking 850 T Sports ( Moto Guzzi engined three wheeler) 1993 -1999 Dozens of BMW's=20 1980 -1986 BMW R 100 RT 1984 - 1987 BMW K 100 LT and RS's ( imported from UK for own use, but always got a so nice offer that I = had to sell, and therefor had to get to UK to find another... There was = a VERY good market here for bikes then . It was not unusual to make a = profit of $ 5-6 000 on a bike . I saved up for the PC 800's and got my a = home cinema in the top class for most of the profit ;-) ) 1998 - ??? (2150 ?) 2 times 1989 PC 800 ( one with 1993 Bushtec Turbo trailer) 2000 - 2001 ( I hope !) 1982 Honda Gold Wing Aspencade with HitchHiker sidecar. ( for use on our = 2000 summer tour in USA, but it was so nice that I imported it to = Norway. Don't like the sidecar-riding, so it is for sale ) 2000 - ??? ( 4 ever?) 1990 Honda GB 500 Clubman ( My dream bike for 10 years !!) Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SoS" PCRC # 2 (Mine) 89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's) 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" (only mine;-) 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 (for = sale) 97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer=20 My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik 800 "SoS"=20 PCRC # 2 (Mine)
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license ccb8caeef0ed901c5fc113ae35571e60) for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:36:02 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Re: History Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:34:43 +0100 Old as a farth when I bough my first bike at 22 ! 1972-74 1972 Honda CB 450 twin 1974-75 1938 BMW R-12 with sidecar 1974-1978 Moto Guzzi 850 T from 1975 with sidecar 1976 -1980 Honda XL 250 1984-1985 Yamaha XT 660 ?? 1989-1998=20 Triking 850 T Sports ( Moto Guzzi engined three wheeler) 1993 -1999 Dozens of BMW's=20 1980 -1986 BMW R 100 RT 1984 - 1987 BMW K 100 LT and RS's ( imported from UK for own use, but always got a so nice offer that I = had to sell, and therefor had to get to UK to find another... There was = a VERY good market here for bikes then . It was not unusual to make a = profit of $ 5-6 000 on a bike . I saved up for the PC 800's and got my a = home cinema in the top class for most of the profit ;-) ) 1998 - ??? (2150 ?) 2 times 1989 PC 800 ( one with 1993 Bushtec Turbo trailer) 2000 - 2001 ( I hope !) 1982 Honda Gold Wing Aspencade with HitchHiker sidecar. ( for use on our = 2000 summer tour in USA, but it was so nice that I imported it to = Norway. Don't like the sidecar-riding, so it is for sale ) 2000 - ??? ( 4 ever?) 1990 Honda GB 500 Clubman ( My dream bike for 10 years !!) 1997 Bushtec Turbo trailer ( for use on the PC 800) Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SoS" PCRC # 2 (Mine) 89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's) 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" (only mine;-) 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 (for = sale) 97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer=20 My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik 800 "SoS"=20 PCRC # 2 (Mine)
89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's)
90 GB 500 = Clubman=20 "Kitty" (only mine;-)
82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar = "Goldie"=20 GWRRA # 147178 (for sale)
97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:36:37 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:44:23 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Ahh, how correct you are Selden. But good 'ole Ken is trying to stiffen up the preload, not the last few inches of compression. Hence my answer. Adding oil will do nothing for preload. Only thing to do is either replace the spring with a stiffer unit, or add air. I chose the air method, I figured he already thought about the spring replacement. Stan Selden Deemer wrote: > tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) writes: > > > Here's a suggestion. In my earlier days of dirt biking, we used to > > drill out the fork caps & install a schraeder valve. Pump in some > > LOW pressure & you will be good to go. (start at 5 psi) Don't go > > over 15 psi, you will blow out your seals. > > I've owned several bikes with air valves on the front forks. This is > no different from increasing the spring preload, except that air > pressure increases seal stiction, which is not a desirable trait. > This may explain why we see very few bikes with this feature any more. > > Since Kenneth is working with a dual purpose bike with, presumably, a > long travel front suspension, I assume the main problem is excessive > front end dive under braking. A better approach would be to put more > oil in each fork leg. Pull the spring from one leg, insert a yard > stick, and measure the distance at full extension from the top of the > fork tube to the top of the oil. Start with an extra half inch of oil. > Put the spring back in, and repeat on the other leg. If this isn't > enough, another half inch, etc. More oil means less air space, so the > air pressure goes up faster as the forks compress. The forks will still > have plenty of compliance over small bumps, but they will stiffen up > faster as they compress. Don't take it too far, however, or you risk > blowing seals on a big bump. > > ====================================================================== > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ====================================================================== > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:46:31 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:46:31 -0500 >From: "Doug Allis" >Selling your motorcycle to finance your wedding? You are making a big >mistake! My fiancé, now wife, would have never let me do that! HAHA ...when I proposed to my soon to be wife ,one of the things she soon asked me after saying "yes" was "where'd you get the money for then ring??"" my reply was " have you seen the bike lately??"" It was a good thing I was joking as she was ready to chew my head off! It's nice knowing that she's marring me for my PC800 ;-) Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:02:31 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Award Names (Not PC Related) I said I'd publish the worst suggestions I got, and here they are. Revill Your Legerity Rewards and Recognition Committee appreciates your help! We got a number of very helpful responses to my previous email asking for help naming our new Legerity Awards. The winning names will be announced soon, but I promised to publish the worst of the submittals for your amusement. Unfortunately, we didn't get any REALLY BAD suggestions. Nothing that I'd worry about telling to MY boss. But to protect the guilty, no names will be mentioned. For the "On the Spot" award, a common theme was summed up perfectly by one submittal: "Free-Lunch Ticket is sound just right to me." Other submittals included: POTS = Pat on the spot. Bite Bonus Telebyte The "Tribble" Jack-a-lope Bluebonnet Spit-Fire Just Desserts Hot Lunch Point of Light For the 3 sequential awards, we had lots of themes suggested. Dogs, liquors, cars, cats... (But the person who suggested Cats couldn't rank them!) Level of Management necessary to approve, Olympic Icons, eagles, hot foods, and everybody's second choice, KHz, Mhz and Ghz. One suggestion for all four awards was fairly prosaic: Award Somewhat Special Award Special Award Very Special Award. We had a few true off-the-wall suggestions. Like the Star Trek Theme: On the Spot level - The "Tribble" 1st level - The "Data" award (Lt. Commander) 2nd level - The "Riker" award (Number One) 3rd level - The "Picard" award (Captian)Special awards: or the Monsters theme: On the Spot level - The "Jack-a-lope" award 1st level - The "Snipe" award 2nd level - The "Bigfoot" award 3rd level - The "Lochnest Monster" award and OF COURSE the Texana theme: On the Spot level - The "Bluebonnet" award 1st level - The "Horny Toad" or the "Salamender" award 2nd level - The "Rattler" award 3rd level - The "Longhorn" award or the "Lone Star" award None of which won of course, or I'd have to kill you. Thanks to everyone who helped, and congrats to Stuart Bell, the Winner! An announcement about the whole program will be out... soon. I hope. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Mar 2001 00:17:10 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:17:14 +0100 From: Wolfgang Kaufmann To: PC800-Mailing List Subject: PC800: History 1973 - 1975 : Honda SS 50 M (50 ccm) ´73 25+ k miles 1983 - 1993 : Honda CX 500 ´78 50+ k miles 1992 - present : Honda PC 800 ´90 "Mazda Baby" 61+ k miles 2000 - present : Honda PC 800 ´96 6,5 k miles (still damaged, rebuild in progress ! ) Wolfgang Kaufmann (Austria) PCOR # 634 http://www.members.aon.at/mtc81/pc800.htm (unfortunately in German ;-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:23:16 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Juanro ." , Subject: Re: PC800: Previous bike Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:16:58 -0600 My bike history - 1968 - JC Penney mini-bike (bought with the proceeds of my lawn cutting business). 1970 - Honda 125 (traded the blown up mini-bike and an old electric bass guitar) 1973 - Yamaha RD-350 (bought from my younger brother, who scared the hell out of himself and decided to sell before he got really hurt) 1975 - Norton 850 Interstate (bought new from Donelson Cycles in St. Louis for $1995). Added a Vetter Windjammer and had a touring bike (and a damn fine oil disposal unit. Just change the filter and refill, no need to actually drain the old oil, there was never much left) Sold the Norton to get married. Do you know what a 1975 Norton 850 (the last imported year) goes for now? Here's a hint - a pristine one would make a real healthy dent in the price of a new Wing. Didn't ride again until after my divorce. 1992 - 1983 Honda CX650 1995 - 1995 PC800 2001 - ??????? Mark G. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: PC800: Previous bike > Hi: > > I saw this msg. , from Doug Allis, that he owned a 1985 CB650, same bike I > owned before the PC. So, I'm wondering, is there a statistic made in the > past, about this? I mean, where we all came from? I guess I or anyone else > can setup a poll in the pc800digest egroups/yahoo site, so we don't choke > the list with replys :-) > > Juanro > 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:30:27 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Shoei helmets Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:24:09 -0600 Just got a note from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse http://www.mawonline.com They are closing out Shoei RF-800 JAG TC1 helmets at $146.95, according to their web site. Click on the green closeout button at the top of the page and click on Closeout items. Follow the links to helmets, Shoei and scroll around. Not all sizes and colors available. Mark G. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:31:48 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:39:34 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) To: PC800 group Subject: RE: PC800: Previous bike These are in order to best of my recollection. It all started around 1969 or so.... Cat mini bike Indian 50 what a POS. does overnight ownership count? 70 JT1 Yamaha 60 to this day i lust after this machine 67 T250 Suzuki 74 TM 125 Suzuki 75 MX250B Yamaha 71 T500 Titan Suzuki 71 CT1 175 Yamaha 3 of 'em 781/2 RM250C2 80 GS 550 Suzuki First new bike 79 RM 400 81 RM 125 82 RM 125 83 CR 125 85 RZ 350 Yamaha (3 of 'em!) Best street bike around for a motocrosser. 2 stroke, liquid cooled, power valved, twin cylinder. Wish I could find one in good condition. Most exciting street bike award IMHO. 83 CR 500 DT 80 Suzuki 70 RT1 360 Yamaha 85 CR 250 87 YZ 250 91 YZ 250 93 YZ 250 94 KX 125 Kawasaki 95 YZ 250 Best race machine I ever owned 86 VF 1000R Honda Interceptor BW 80 Yamaha 00 YZ 250 98 PC 800 Best street bike I ever owned. Except for the soft power, the wind up the legs & the wet feet. I am sure I have forgotten some machines. I guess they didn't make an imprint in my cranium. Bikes that i lusted after but never owned.... 85 RZ 500. 4 cyl, 2 st., powervalved & liquid cooled. got one to sell? 74 TY 250, 360, 175, 80 still looking for one. Slow is where its at. GT 80 Yamaha Just like the JT, but only bigger. GSXR 1100 Don't ask why, I just do. Most of the machines that I like are of a vintage nature. Rarely do I find something that excites me that is fairly new. I think that the machines of the 70's & 80's have style & class. Remember these comments are just IMHO. Blue Skies Stan (in Grafton WV) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:43:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug W. Paik" To: Subject: PC800: History - Previous Bikes Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:43:04 -0500 Importance: Normal Greetings, Listers! OK, now you've done it! You've triggered a lot of nostalgia and made me look back on a lot of great times. I know I get more pleasure out of compiling this list than anyone will looking at it. (And I know I'm lucky to have a wife that has been good enough to allow more than one bike in the garage during numerous periods over the years.) Bought in: ? NSU Moped Used 1963 ? Honda 90S U 1967 '67 Honda CB450 U 1968 '69 BMW R60/5 New 1969 '70 Honda CB750-4 N 1970 '72 BMW R75/5 N 1972 '73 Honda CB750-4 N 1973 '76 Yamaha XS750 Triple N 1975 '78 Honda CX500 N 1978 '79 Suzuki GS1000L N 1979 '81 Yamaha 750 Virago U 1982 '84 Honda GL1200 Standard N 1984 (to '91) '86 Honda 1100 Sabre N 1986 '88 Honda GL1500 U 1991 (to '99) '82 Honda CB900F U 1993 '86 Yamaha FJ1200 U 1995 '85 Honda 1100 Sabre U 1997 '88 Kawasaki 1500 Vulcan U 1997 '98 Suzuki Bandit 1200S N 1998 '98 Honda VT750CD U 1999 '97 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast U 2000 '90 Honda CBR1000F U 2001 Sigh! It has been a hoot! Doug Paik Pam Bay, Florida -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:52:25 -0800 > Hoppy birdy two ewe > Hoppy birdy two ewe > Hoppy birdy deer ewe > Hoppy birdy two ewe. > > Russ Vernon > -- Emile, I am more than twice as old as you, but this won't last long. Make this a memorable year! Lee I am learning Dutch: Chocolate, Rub, Uncle, Oven. Small vocabulary so far, but I think I am off to a good start. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: "Roger Ries" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:55:19 -0800 When you told Linda and me about this bike, you used some colorful adjectives which I don't see below.... Lee > '83 Yamaha Maxim 750 > > Screaming in-line four and shaft drive. > > Still have it. > > > ===== > Later > Roger R > Chaska, MN > '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) > PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 01:00:50 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:07:42 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "Greg Castle" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas Greg Castle wrote: > It's nice knowing that she's marring me for my PC800 ;-) Well we know it's not for your good looks ;-o ;-) :-0 :-) Be nice now I'm just a little guy. Ride swift, ride safe Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: Subject: PC800: Matrix's PC is sold Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:06:19 -0800 Thanks to all who offered help transporting this PC north for me. Michael got a cash offer from a local and took it (who wouldn't?) so = we'll return to our usual muddling alongness. As for me, I am going to go to the living room, gather myself round the = fire, and study maps of California. Maybe I can improve myself if I = work at it. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee" To: , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:10:36 -0800 > At 15: Honda 50cc Moped (the one with pedals, so heavy and geared so low that > your top speed under pedal power was well under 5mph) > So few mopeds in these lists. I had a Lambretta 48; best high school buddy had a Puch (sears). We put many serious two stroke miles on those machines. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.102) with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 17:26:08 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" , Subject: RE: PC800: need delivery help for Matrix's PC Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:29:13 +0100 Importance: Normal > From: Lee > Hi Coasters-- > I have made an offer to Michael Matrix for his PC ... > Owning two PCs was not on my budget radar! > My best man lives in Pleasanton; Michael is selling the > bike because he is getting married. There is some poetry in this whole possibility. Lee... I've got the feeling you're gonna be a nominee for this years "Nicest Coaster Around" award...(besides the "Silliest Coaster Around" award which you already won last year : )) You helping Mike out ensuring that the object which provides him with so much pleasure and passion (besides his soon to be wife : )) is kept in good hands untill he saves his money back from that expensive protocol ? Emile www.piloot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:40:35 -0800 At the risk of being embarrassed with the shortest list so far, I'll ring in here with mine: 1989 Honda Pacific Coast, "Blue Pacific", purchased October 1999. But while I was in high school in the early 70's, I helped my dad rebuild a Cushman Eagle scooter - does that count? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.members.home.com/bluepc -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.63) with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 17:46:16 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Happy 27th Birthday, Emile Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:49:21 +0100 Importance: Normal >From: Lee >Emile, I am more than twice as old as you, but this won't >last long. Make this a memorable year! Trying... hoping to bring some breaking news within the next weeks to show that this will be a memorable one.. >I am learning Dutch: Chocolate, Rub, Uncle, Oven. Small >vocabulary so far, but I think I am off to a good start. Hmm... I think you either bought the wrong book or need to change mentors... oven is Dutch.. so there definetely is progression.. you know what T-shirt is in Dutch ? Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: FRS radio output -- antennas of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:03:01 EST." <002201c0a613$ddd09e00$ba75793f@j3s0p2> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:02:21 -0600 "Carl Luft" writes: > Subject: Re: FRS radio output -- antennas > > Do you power your III+ using batteries or external power?. I use power from > the PC and the thought of water soaking into the plug kinda scared me. Why? The power socket gets wet if nothing is plugged in, even with a rubber plug over it. So there isn't much of a deal with it getting wet with wires connected. If this was a big deal then motorcycles and automobiles would come to a halt every time it rains. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:08:53 EST Subject: Re: PC800: History: To: Bruce.Pickett@pss.boeing.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/6/01 5:41:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com writes: << But while I was in high school in the early 70's, I helped my dad rebuild a Cushman Eagle scooter - does that count? >> Not unless he did it to help you to earn a merit badge. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 02:34:05 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:41:06 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "pc800 list, pc" Subject: PC800: Emile B'day Emile, My favorite GP driver Innes Ireland, was once asked what he thought was the perfect age? He responded, "a slightly irresponsible 27" I've thought about that long and hard and I think he's right. Here's to a "slightly irresponsible" year. Quadrophobia, the rational fear of becoming a car driver. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:34:43 EST Subject: Re: PC800: History: To: Bruce.Pickett@pss.boeing.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bruce, your list isn't much shorter than mine. The PC is the first "real bike" I have owned. My History: 1967 Yamaha 180, 198?Suzuki FA 50 (hey Lee, a moped!), 1978 Yamaha DT250, and now the PC. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:45:36 -0600 Importance: Normal Hi all, I like many kids that grew up in rural areas with lots of brothers and cousins, I had a great time riding a lot of different bikes. The first thing we had was a mini-bike whose pedigree escapes me. My father brought it home and it took us about 6 months to destroy it. We had a variety of small displacement dirt bikes around next and the first "Street" bike was a 1972 Yamaha 200 cc two stroke. It was the first bike that had a top speed over 55mph. It was small and light and downhill with the wind could hit 80mph. My younger brother totaled it off after wiping out on a dirt back road full out. The forks were bent into the motor and the frame twisted like licorice. We all marveled that he survived at all not much less walked 4 miles home after the crash. About that time my older brother bought a Kawasaki 350 "green thumper" that was an awesome machine in it's day. It was this bike that probably responsible for screwing up my back, and that of many others who rode it. It had great power but was extremely heavy and handled unpredictably when pushed, jumping irrigation ditches with a light enduro was no big deal, but with thumper, it just about did you in coming down the other side. I also owned two Triumphs, a 68 Bonneville that was an excellent bike and a 69 Trident that was a pile of junk. My vanity got to me and I sold the excellent 650 for the 750 triple because it was way more cool. The Trident was a year newer and much faster when working, but had been through about 6 owners before me and was the poster boy for all that was wrong with the British bikes of the day. The electrics went out on it frequently and I couldn't keep a clutch in it for more than a few months. I longed for the old bonnie and drooled over the Honda CB's that had become the standard for modern street bikes. I later went on to own two more Yamahas which kind of paralleled the Triumphs except the 650 Twin (1970 something vintage) should have never been on the road, and I had a triple XS750 with shaft drive (81 or 82 model I think) that was the best bike I owned prior to the PC. The 750 was my only mode of transportation for 2 years. I rode it from April to November (Living in Alberta, Canada at the time) and crossed Canada with it twice. It never let me down and I went on to sell it for the same price I paid for it ($1,200 CDN) after three years of driving and 45K on the odometer. My biking days ended from 1986 on until I purchased the PC-800. I have become a lot more conservative minded and if someone told me 25 years ago that I would be riding a bike like the Pacific Coast, I would have laughed them out of the place, but here I am, and I'm enjoying this bike perhaps more than any I have owned before. Best wishes all, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Marty & Bill " To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:49:07 -0500 I am President of a computer company and people who have known me for the last 20 years are surpised to see me on my PC or lesson when I talk of her virtures. They are further surprised to learn this is my 13th cycle. Its has been 20 years with out a cycle. The cost of starting a business and raising a family. It all started when I was in college in 1964. 1. Cushman scooter - got it all started 2. 62 Honda 305 Dream CA77 3. 65 Honda 305 Scrambler CL77(new) 4. xx Honda CB 160 5. 67 Honda CB450 with Scrambler upgrade (new) 6. 69 Honda CL350 (new) 7. 69 Honda CB350 (new) 8. 70 Honda CB750 9. 6x Honda CL125 10. 74 Honda CB750(new) 11. 80 Honda SL125 12. 93 Honda 750 Nighthawk (Purchased Jan. 2000) 13. 96 Honda PC800 (Purchased June 2000) I guess I'm showing my age. If I had not taken a 20 year hiadus there probably would have been a few more. I'm in no hurry to move on from my PC. Bill Smith Dream Chaser 96 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 03:00:09 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:07:04 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "Greg Castle" , " pc800 list, pc" Subject: Re: PC800: 98 PC800 For sale at Honda Milpitas Wedding invite?? Free food , Canadian beer, maybe you didn't under stand me quite right, what I meant was it must be for your superior intelligence and psychic powers to say nothing about your extraordinary capacity for deduction. Sorry bud you left your self wide open for that one. It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" Greg Castle wrote: > > >From: "Rick Corwine" > >Well we know it's not for your good looks ;-o ;-) > > OUCH!!!! well...comments like that wont get ya invited to the wedding!! > ;-) > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 03:00:02 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: Wanted! Service Manual Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:00:05 -0500 OK! You guys have convinced me to try some maintenance/repairs for myself and have come to realize a service manual would be helpful. I have had a couple of horror stories in the past when trying to order one. Competition Accessories billed my credit and I never got the thing.... they said after 60 days on backorder they cancel it! They could not explain charging the credit card. Then, my local dealer had an old used greasy 89 model but wanted $45 for it.... I would like to try and get one for my model year (1997) even though they are all basically the same. If anyone has one they want to part with that is in good condition, let me know. I will pay a reasonable price for the used manual. Let me know off list.... this fish will probably "bite" Michael -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 03:17:19 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:24:23 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "pc800 list, pc" Subject: PC800: Ride to Work Here's a site that should be of interest to the list considering we have so many serious commuters. http://www.ridetowork.org Quadrophobia, the rational fear of becoming a car driver. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:36:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "'Michael D. Linkous'" Subject: RE: PC800: Wanted! Service Manual Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:36:22 -0600 Importance: Normal Hi Mike, The Honda PC-800 repair manual is available from http://www.motocom.com for $48.00. They also have the Honda Common Service Manual and Microfiche available. Best wishes, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:41:20 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Subject: PC800: Antifreeze Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:41:28 -0600 Importance: Normal True Story, Eh! Antifreeze =-=-=-=-=- An RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer stopped to help a stranded rider standing beside a stalled motorcycle in the mountains. It was extremely cold, and the rider was heavily dressed in a helmet, balaclave and snowmobile suit. In a muffled voice, the rider told the Mountie that the carburetor was frozen. "Well, pee on it," the Mountie said. "Can't," replied the rider. The helpful Mountie took out his own equipment and liberally hosed down the carburetor, and the bike soon fired up. A few days later, the local department received a thank you note from a father, grateful for the roadside assistance his young daughter had received from the RCMP. Forwarded to me by my loving wife, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:34:02 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andrew J. Carroll, MD" To: Subject: PC800: Thanks for all the tire advice... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:31:48 -0700 Importance: Normal I think I'll replace both. My bike list: 1996 Honda Pacific Coast, bought 1/13/01. My first bike. Doing well with it too. Got that "Volkswagen" twang to the muffler you're all talking about, but only occasionally, and real mild. Wear an HJC helmet, Kevlar gloves, Leather jacket, and my work clothes underneath. I think that covers all the current strings. --Andrew Carroll -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:39:21 -0800 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Roger Prince , Pacific Coast Owners , pacificcoast@yahoogroups.com Subject: PC800: PC800 Backrest Installation Instructions Hi Roger, Coasters and Y2Kers, Roger Prince has graciously supplied us with images of the PC800 Passenger Backrest Installation Instructions. I have just built a web page that can be used to access them. I've added a link to it in my master list of links. The link is: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800BRInstall.html Thanks, Roger! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 158000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 35000 miles iPCRC #72 PC800 Owner's Registry: http://www.pc800registry.org (http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html) Mother of all PC800 Web Site Lists: http://www.pc800links.net (http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800LinkList.html) 2001 PC800 Pacific Coast Ride: http://www.pcpch.org (http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html) Complete PC800 Parts List: http://www.pc800parts.org (http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800PartsList.html) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:42:27 -0600 >From today's Ft. Worth, Texas Star-Telegram [startlegram] "Honda PCs `89, (2) $2500 firm 238-0595" This should be the 817 area code. If so, it's in Azle ... about 25 miles or so. I'll call and get "the scoop" in the morning (Wednesday), but I'll be away from the office for the rest of the week. If anyone wants me to take a ride over and check them out, either send me a message on my private email swake@pocketmail.com or call me at the house 817/282-7742. SWake -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Seat Needed Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:13:54 -0500 Does anyone have a PC seat they are willing to sell?=20 I have a '94 that the stiching is spilting on. I'll buy a new one if = need be, but I thought that with all the Russel & Corbin seats I read = about in our group, surely someone has one they could sell! E-Mail me off list with particulars if interested.=20 Thanks Mike Whited P.S. Does anyone have the phone numbers or E-Mail address to Milapas = Honda? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Mar 2001 04:02:42 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Drain tube? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:02:42 -0300 Hi: I remember that, on my CB650SC, there was a "drain tube", going down from the airbox, with a removable cap on the end. Frequently you had to check, and possibly drain it (it contained a nasty mixture of water and oil) When I say "frequently" I mean once a month, or sooner if it was rainy or humid. Does the PC have something like that I should take care of? Just curious. On a side note, remember there's a poll on the egroups/yahoo web site, about what bike did you owned before the PC: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pc800digest/surveys?id=583682 It turned to be a long thread, and in fact, it chocked the mail list (I told you so) :-) But it was a wonderfull one... all that memories, eh? So, if you fill the poll, we can make a more or less accurate statistic of our past. Oh, and my bike list: 1998 CG125 New Medium sized, single cyl. street bike. Loved it. 1999 '81 CM400T Twin mini custom. Stoled (sp?) 99-01 CB650SC Wow. This one I really like. If not for the PC, I would have keeped it. Sold to a friend. 01-?? Iupi!! Best regards, Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: "'Pickett, Bruce D'" , PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: History: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:13:02 -0600 Amen, brother. Same story here. Only one entry in the list for me: '89 Pacific Coast, purchased August, 2000. SWake -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D [mailto:Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:41 PM To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: History: At the risk of being embarrassed with the shortest list so far, I'll ring in here with mine: 1989 Honda Pacific Coast, "Blue Pacific", purchased October 1999. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: History: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:56:51 -0500 1964 Honda 90 (friends) learned to ride 1972 '66 Honda CB450 (fresh out of the Army) 27,000 miles 1976 '76 Honda CB750SS (first new bike also first motorcycle tour, black hills, yellowstone etc) 36,000 miles 1977 1947 Harley-Davidson FL? (61cu in) Police bike...bought it, wife and I decided on a divorce, sold it 6 weeks later for twice what I payed for it. Won't have another H-D (or blond either!) 1980 '78 Honda GL1000 (started a family and slowed down) 78,000 miles 1990 '90 Kawasaki VN1500 (damn thing broke all the time) 36,000 miles 1994 '94 Honda PC800 (second new bike,,,I LOVE IT!) 84,000 and counting Mike Whited Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:22:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Fork braces Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:22:08 -0300 Hi, Oh well... I'll be naming the NightHawk one more time. Please forgive me ... :-) The NightHawk had a "fork brace", a thick aluminium bolted to the two bottom fork legs (dunno the technicall name... you know what I mean, there's the slider that sildes into the "leg") The PC doesn't. Do you know if there is an aftermarked fork brace? Any of you have something like this installed? Any noticeable front end improvement? Best regards, Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.frognet.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 13:05:02 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mayday" To: Subject: PC800: history Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:25:04 -0500 Apr 1998-June 1999 !995 Yamaha Virago 250 bought new (leftover = still in crate), rode about 4000 miles, traded for a horse. June 1999-Oct 2000 1996 Honda Shadow 1100 ACE bought used = (2000 miles) rode 22000 miles, fiance "redesigned" front end by riding = into a parked vehicle. Still have it, anybody know a good parts source = or want to buy it? Needs fork tubes, radiator, steering stem, front = fender. Nov 2000-Present 1989 PC-800 used (duh) with 8800 miles from = previous 2 owners. Now up to about 11000. Mayday Mike Athens,OH have it,=20 anybody know a good parts source or want to buy it? Needs fork tubes, = radiator,=20 steering stem, front fender.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.frognet.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 13:14:37 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mayday" To: "pc800 list" Subject: PC800: Columbus area riders Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:34:43 -0500 Do any of you Columbus,OH area PC'ers have a Corbin seat/Clearview +3 = combo on their ride? I would like to sit on and possibly ride a bike = with this combo to check the height and wind protection before I buy. = MaydayMike = Athens, OH -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:44:00 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Ducktails:Duck tales Dave Steven writes: > Interestingly, someone mentioned in the History thread the Honda 305 > Benley Touring model with Earles style front end (and a DA fender). > It was also available in the late '60s as a 160 model if I remember > correctly. I vaguely remember lusting after a blue one with a red > seat.... > > The Benley Touring models are now hot with collectors as they were > unique (dare I say unloved by the mainstream). Our PC's are unloved > as well; except by us of course. Hold onto them! Or at least save > them for the grandkids. History has a way of repeating itself. Honda made a 250cc version, but the CB160 was more of a baby SuperHawk, with a tube frame. Elvis Presley's first bike was a 305 Dream, which is in the Graceland museum. There was a CB92 Benley, a 125cc twin with flat bars and an enormous double leading shoe front brake -- which would drop you in an instant if used incautiously. I bought a CB92 in Hamburg in June of 1965, rode it around Europe, then from London to Istanbul in 10 days in September. I eventually shipped it back to the USA (for $35 shipping charges), and rode it from Delaware to Ann Arbor via Canada. Sold it in 1968 for $400 with 20,000 miles on it. A few years ago I saw a restored CB92 at Vintage Motorcycle Days with an asking price of $9000. For narrative and photos of this and other bikes in my past (and present), see: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~libssd/cyclography.html ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:47:59 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: ah, memories... Bob Patterson writes: > Just seeing if I can remember 30+ years ago... > > 1965 Honda 160 > 1966 BSA 650 Lightning > 1949 Vincent Black Shadow > 1936 Brough-Superior SS80 > 1950 Ariel Square Four Cafe Racer > 1957 Ariel Square Four with Stieb > 1966 Triumph Bonneville > 1982 Gold Wing with chair > 1971 Suzuki 750 Buffalo (California Burgandy) > 1950 Velocette MAC350 > 1960 Allstate Riverside 350 (Bennelli) > 1995 PC800 Wow! A masochist with very good taste. And probably a garage full of tools (Whitworths, at that). ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gwta@voyager.net Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:54:25 -0600 (CST) To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: history 1984-1988, 1973 Honda CB350. Paid $300 for general transportation after I sold the 69 Cutlass Convertible after college. Probably only put 2000 miles on it. Buzzy, though reliable. 1988-1993, 1981 Honda GL500 Silverwing. Wife fell in love with this bike when she saw it. Much better for two up riding, but still way too buzzy. Front tire bald, and I mean cueball bald when I bought it. Maybe 4,000 miles on that bike. 1993-present, 1993 Honda GL1500SE (new). Great touring bike. Still the most relaxing bike I have ever ridden and what a step up from the Silverwing. 53,000 miles. Fast, extremely powerful, and nimble once rolling. Crank up the stereo out of the 4 speakers. 1996-1999, 1995 Honda 1100 ACE. Loved the rumble and the shake, for the first year. Then the constant wind noise and non-stop vibration lost its appeal. Put about 8,000 miles on it. Wanted it for riding to work and home, but I found something better. 1998-present, 1997 Honda PC800 (new). This was the better. Great bike for back and forth to work. Too uncomfortable after 100 miles though. Mostly stock except for things to make it more conducive to riding to work (Wind Deflectors, head and taillight modulators, and a +5 Clearview). Funnest bike I have ever had. 1998-2000, 1998 Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic (new). Beautiful red on red bike bought for the wife. Big mistake. She really didn't want it and she didn't ride it afterall. Great bike, though a little slow. Comfortable, nice sound, sat extremely low (first bike I put my feet down and bounced back hitting the ground so quick). 1,100 miles before we sold it. Thomas Ongstad -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:09:50 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Seat Needed I'm in need too. I've got a Russell ordered for April delivery (ride to work day, actually) and I need a spare to send to them so that I won't be without Whirby while they rebuild it. I'm willing to pay a fair price, in the hope that the next Russell conversion will buy it off me. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:11:32 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: "Visibility, Sir" "Visibility, Sir." That's how I answered the VA State Trooper after he pulled me over. I'd be= en following his 'unmarked' car on I-66, and wondering if he could legally = use the HOV lanes with only one person in the car. I got closer than inten= ded a couple times because he was going only 55-60mph, and the ST1100 is ba= rely at idle at those speeds. Note to self: ride in 4th gear to stay at 55= -60. He turned on his blue lights and motioned me to follow him to the side of t= he road. He donned his hat and came back to me as I raised the front of my= helmet and pulled my face mask below my chin. "Why do you use high beams in the daytime," he said, with a little edge to = his voice. "Visibility, Sir." He then politely pointed out that it was illegal to ride with high beams du= ring the day, and it can really get some people "pissed off" (his words). = I agreed, and pointed out that most wrecks are caused by car drivers "not s= eeing" us. He asked why an ordinary headlight wouldn't do that and I said = because the high beam is brighter and has a bigger pattern. I agreed with him about road ragers and the lack of physical protection for= motorcyclists. He'd made his point, I hadn't disagreed with him but explained why I did wh= at I did. We each said thank you and he was on his way. Conclusions: 1. The law I could find (see below) says dim your lights if within 200 ft. = of a car in front of you. I think I'll just use low-beam if following a po= lice car at all. 2. I should get a headlight modulator and use it on the low-beam. It's leg= al and effective. Chris Norloff from http://leg1.state.va.us/ =A7 46.2-1034. When dimming headlights required. Whenever a vehicle is being driven on a highway or a portion thereof which = is sufficiently lighted to reveal any person or object upon such highway at= a distance of 350 feet ahead, the operator of such vehicle shall use the l= ow beam of his vehicle's headlights or shall dim the headlights if the vehi= cle has single-beam lights. Whenever a vehicle approaches an oncoming vehic= le within 500 feet, the driver of such vehicle shall use the low beam of hi= s vehicle's headlights so aimed that glaring rays are not projected into th= e eyes of the oncoming driver or dim the headlights, if the vehicle has sin= gle-beam lights. Whenever the driver of any motor vehicle approaches from t= he rear or follows within 200 feet of another vehicle proceeding in the sam= e direction, the driver shall use the low beam of his vehicle's headlights = or shall dim the headlights if the vehicle has single-beam lights. =A7 46.2-1012. Headlights on motorcycles; auxiliary headlights. Every motorcycle shall be equipped with at least one and not more than two = headlights which shall be of a type that has been approved by the Superinte= ndent and shall be capable of projecting sufficient light to the front of such motorcycle to render discernible a person or object at a = distance of 200 feet. However, the lights shall not project a glaring or da= zzling light to persons approaching such motorcycles. In addition, each mot= orcycle may be equipped with not more than two auxiliary headlights of a ty= pe approved by the Superintendent. Motorcycles may be equipped with means of modulating the high beam of their= headlights between high and low beam at a rate of 200 to 280 flashes per m= inute. Such headlights shall not be so modulated during periods when headli= ghts would ordinarily be required to be lighted under =A7 46.2-1030. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:20:01 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Columbus area riders To: mayday@frognet.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" That's my combination and I'd be happy to ride to Columbus (as other listers can attest to) to let you try it out, but I'm snowed in here at the moment. I have 2 feet of snow on the roof of my house and waist deep drifts in my yard. I think it will be a while before I can get on the road with only two wheels:-( I don't know when spring will arrive here in Central New York. I keep erasing that spring notice on my calendars and moving it closer to summer. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" mayday@frognet.net writes: >Do any of you Columbus,OH area PC'ers have a Corbin seat/Clearview +3 combo on >their ride? I would like to sit on and possibly ride a bike with this combo to >check the height and wind protection before I buy. > >MaydayMike > Athens, OH > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:33:48 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: New To List To: JCatChelms@aol.com, gsansoucie@mediaone.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu All, As much as the folks east of I-495 hate to admit it, there is life outside of Boston!! ps- who on the list is on the cape, the real cape? ..don't get them plymouth-ites started... :-) We have members in Marblehead MA, > Boxborough MA, Lowell MA, a > couple on the cape, and myself from Chelmsford, MA. > There are others in NH, > RI and VT also. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Fenwick" To: , "'List-PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: "Visibility, Sir" Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:43:51 -0600 Importance: Normal >2. I should get a headlight modulator and use it on the low-beam. It's legal and >effective. Chris: Modulators are designed to work on the high beam of a headlight... That way when you switch to the low beam, the modulator is not used, and the low beam is a steady beam. If when using a modulator on high beam, one does come up on traffic, or any circumstance where the modulator is unwanted, switch to low beam. Problem solved. Of course, with the use of a photoeye, the modulator is disabled in low/no light situations.. Rich Fenwick http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 - 33,000 miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Norloff Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:12 AM To: List-PC800 Subject: PC800: "Visibility, Sir" "Visibility, Sir." That's how I answered the VA State Trooper after he pulled me over. I'd been following his 'unmarked' car on I-66, and wondering if he could legally use the HOV lanes with only one person in the car. I got closer than intended a couple times because he was going only 55-60mph, and the ST1100 is barely at idle at those speeds. Note to self: ride in 4th gear to stay at 55-60. He turned on his blue lights and motioned me to follow him to the side of the road. He donned his hat and came back to me as I raised the front of my helmet and pulled my face mask below my chin. "Why do you use high beams in the daytime," he said, with a little edge to his voice. "Visibility, Sir." He then politely pointed out that it was illegal to ride with high beams during the day, and it can really get some people "pissed off" (his words). I agreed, and pointed out that most wrecks are caused by car drivers "not seeing" us. He asked why an ordinary headlight wouldn't do that and I said because the high beam is brighter and has a bigger pattern. I agreed with him about road ragers and the lack of physical protection for motorcyclists. He'd made his point, I hadn't disagreed with him but explained why I did what I did. We each said thank you and he was on his way. Conclusions: 1. The law I could find (see below) says dim your lights if within 200 ft. of a car in front of you. I think I'll just use low-beam if following a police car at all. 2. I should get a headlight modulator and use it on the low-beam. It's legal and effective. Chris Norloff from http://leg1.state.va.us/ § 46.2-1034. When dimming headlights required. Whenever a vehicle is being driven on a highway or a portion thereof which is sufficiently lighted to reveal any person or object upon such highway at a distance of 350 feet ahead, the operator of such vehicle shall use the low beam of his vehicle's headlights or shall dim the headlights if the vehicle has single-beam lights. Whenever a vehicle approaches an oncoming vehicle within 500 feet, the driver of such vehicle shall use the low beam of his vehicle's headlights so aimed that glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver or dim the headlights, if the vehicle has single-beam lights. Whenever the driver of any motor vehicle approaches from the rear or follows within 200 feet of another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, the driver shall use the low beam of his vehicle's headlights or shall dim the headlights if the vehicle has single-beam lights. § 46.2-1012. Headlights on motorcycles; auxiliary headlights. Every motorcycle shall be equipped with at least one and not more than two headlights which shall be of a type that has been approved by the Superintendent and shall be capable of projecting sufficient light to the front of such motorcycle to render discernible a person or object at a distance of 200 feet. However, the lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light to persons approaching such motorcycles. In addition, each motorcycle may be equipped with not more than two auxiliary headlights of a type approved by the Superintendent. Motorcycles may be equipped with means of modulating the high beam of their headlights between high and low beam at a rate of 200 to 280 flashes per minute. Such headlights shall not be so modulated during periods when headlights would ordinarily be required to be lighted under § 46.2-1030. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:41:15 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: "'PC800 Rider'" Subject: RE: PC800: Columbus area riders Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:41:21 -0600 Importance: Normal > Tim Davies wrote: > I don't know when spring will arrive here in Central New York. I keep erasing > that spring notice on my calendars and moving it closer to summer. Looks like maybe the Big Rat Thing was right this year. We have had a longer than average winter here too. Temps have been down into the 50's at times, even now. It has been a glorious time to ride, low winds and 70 degree temps during the day. Wish y'all a speedy spring, Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:46:06 -0600 "RE: PC800: Columbus area riders" (Mar 7, 8:41am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Columbus area riders I was just reading this morning that you all Nurtherners have imported some of our Texas PanicButton (tm) weathermen. The paper reports that the "worst winter storm ever" that was supposed to hit yesterday in Yankeeland was pretty much a fizzle. Sounds familiar. The forcasters get so excited down here about a Possible Freeze that you might think the sky was falling. I'm glad to hear that you all have these guys now; I'd wondered why we hadn't heard much from them since December. That's ok. You don't have to return them when you're through with them. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Talago, Stan" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" , "Joey Czarneski" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:23:53 -0500 Stan and Selden, Tell me if I went wrong. I reviewed all of the great information that I recieved from the list and did the following: 1. Replaced the fluid with ATF. 2. Installed an upper spacer of 1/2 inch to increase the preload. 3. Installed a 2 1/2 spacer inside the lower 6" first stage spring. This is the lighter spring. The goal was to cause the forces to change to the longer/stronger spring sooner. 4. I added 3 more ounces of fluid to the fork. I am waiting on a phone call from the dearler to tell me the factory specs. The old fluid messured 9 ounces at 10" below the top without springs. I went with 13 ounces at 6" below the top. Does anyone see a danger with my changes? 1987 Suzuki sp 200. Forks mods. Two stage springs with no factory air adjustment. Goal: To increase the preload and stiffen the fork by 15% without significant expense for a 13 year old street/trail bike that is uses for mountain trail riding and group enduro rides. Kenneth Winter > Ahh, how correct you are Selden. But good 'ole Ken is trying to stiffen > up the preload, not the last few inches of compression. Hence my answer. > Adding oil will do nothing for preload. Only thing to do is either replace > the spring with a stiffer unit, or add air. I chose the air method, I > figured he already thought about the spring replacement. > > Stan > > Selden Deemer wrote: > > > tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) writes: > > > > > Here's a suggestion. In my earlier days of dirt biking, we used to > > > drill out the fork caps & install a schraeder valve. Pump in some > > > LOW pressure & you will be good to go. (start at 5 psi) Don't go > > > over 15 psi, you will blow out your seals. > > > > I've owned several bikes with air valves on the front forks. This is > > no different from increasing the spring preload, except that air > > pressure increases seal stiction, which is not a desirable trait. > > This may explain why we see very few bikes with this feature any more. > > > > Since Kenneth is working with a dual purpose bike with, presumably, a > > long travel front suspension, I assume the main problem is excessive > > front end dive under braking. A better approach would be to put more > > oil in each fork leg. Pull the spring from one leg, insert a yard > > stick, and measure the distance at full extension from the top of the > > fork tube to the top of the oil. Start with an extra half inch of oil. > > Put the spring back in, and repeat on the other leg. If this isn't > > enough, another half inch, etc. More oil means less air space, so the > > air pressure goes up faster as the forks compress. The forks will still > > have plenty of compliance over small bumps, but they will stiffen up > > faster as they compress. Don't take it too far, however, or you risk > > blowing seals on a big bump. > > > > ====================================================================== > > Selden Deemer > > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > > ====================================================================== > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:32:24 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: History: To: Lee Cc: PC800 I rode a JCPenny Pinto. 50cc top speed down hill 23mph. It was my brothers. When he sold it the odom said 2500. 90% of that was mine. ;-) --- Lee wrote: > > > > > At 15: Honda 50cc Moped (the one with pedals, so heavy and geared > so low > that > > your top speed under pedal power was well under 5mph) > > > > So few mopeds in these lists. I had a Lambretta 48; best high school > buddy > had a Puch (sears). We put many serious two stroke miles on those > machines. > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:49:09 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Columbus area riders To: revill.dunn@legerity.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" revill.dunn@legerity.com writes: >I was just reading this morning that you all Nurtherners have imported some of >our Texas PanicButton (tm) weathermen. > >The paper reports that the "worst winter storm ever" that was supposed to hit >yesterday in Yankeeland was pretty much a fizzle. Sounds familiar. The >forcasters get so excited down here about a Possible Freeze that you might >think the sky was falling. I'm glad to hear that you all have these guys now; >I'd wondered why we hadn't heard much from them since December. > >That's ok. You don't have to return them when you're through with them. > >Revill Our forecasters where right on the money. We got exactly the amount predicted, when it was predicted to occur and where it was predicted to fall. Remember, there is much more to New York State than the "city" and their forecasters like to scare then every once in a while just to keep them in line. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gwta@voyager.net Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:02:29 -0600 (CST) To: "PC800 Rider" Cc: revill.dunn@legerity.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Columbus area riders I have been conversing with fellows in MA that did get 2 feet of snow from that storm. So it wasn't a fizzle for everyone. 2 feet is still a bunch too me. I thought "spring arrives on March 1st, on the dot". Guess Michigan ain't Camelot. Thomas "PC800 Rider" wrote: > revill.dunn@legerity.com writes: > >I was just reading this morning that you all Nurtherners have imported some of > >our Texas PanicButton (tm) weathermen. > > > >The paper reports that the "worst winter storm ever" that was supposed to hit > >yesterday in Yankeeland was pretty much a fizzle. Sounds familiar. The > >forcasters get so excited down here about a Possible Freeze that you might > >think the sky was falling. I'm glad to hear that you all have these guys now; > >I'd wondered why we hadn't heard much from them since December. > > > >That's ok. You don't have to return them when you're through with them. > > > >Revill > > Our forecasters where right on the money. We got exactly the amount predicted, > when it was predicted to occur and where it was predicted to fall. > > Remember, there is much more to New York State than the "city" and their > forecasters like to scare then every once in a while just to keep them in line. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > IPCRC #4 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com via smtpd (for dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 16:24:52 UT Subject: Re: PC800: History: To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:22:27 -0800 22, 2000) at 03/07/2001 08:21:20 AM Since there are so few, I will add my bike list '76 went to Hawaii for two weeks - rented a moped twice - fell in love with them. '79 purchased a red Puch (no, not a color thread) - great bike. Longest ride I took on it was 100 miles - took all day. '81 purchased a Peugeot moped - not a great bike. Had a belt drive. When the belt started to slip, it would only go about 15 mph max. Had bad luck with both of these bikes. Both of these bikes were stolen at one point or another. The puch was stolen twice - the first time it was joy rided and returned, the second time it was vandalized and set on fire. The Peugeot was stolen and never recovered. Did I mention that before I was 16, I had 11 bikes stolen from me. Lock and chain, what's that? '99 purchased an '89 PC800. It is kept locked and safe in the garage at night. Not going to let this one get away. Steve So few mopeds in these lists. I had a Lambretta 48; best high school buddy had a Puch (sears). We put many serious two stroke miles on those machines. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:27:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:27:42 EST Subject: PC800: Previous Bike To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers.... Since I lurk the list (keeps the email volume down, and I check the archives daily to keep up), I remain a day late and a dollar short. My previous bike list is brief. '82 Honda SilverWing Interstate. The TRUE pre-cursor to the PC800. A middleweight (500cc) tourer, set up for one-up or two up riding. Full fairing, hard bags, and a GiVi like trunk that could be swapped for a passenger seat with backrest and rack. A 500CC v-twin (although set cross-wise ala Guzzi), shaft drive, and a decent all-day rider. Not the best beginners bike, though. Heavy, and you felt every pound, since the center of gravity was (it seemed) about 6" ABOVE the bridge of your nose (grin). But, the price was right, even if it had about a gazillion miles on it (over 100,000) when I bought it. Spent a year on it, found the PC and the rest is history. Side story ... I bought the SilverWing from my brother, who has over 300,000 miles on bikes of all flavors. His only "special condition" on the deal was that he would not deliver the bike until I'd gone thru the MSF beginners course. Plus, he signed up and went through the course with me! A great guy, and I'm proud to have him as family. Plus, he tagged along as our "target for abuse" on his BMW on the Pacific Coast Y2K ride last September. Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" HSTA #9479 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Forks and spring modifications NON PC Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:42:03 -0500 Fork oils. I am getting mixed infomation about the fork oil for my Dirt bike. Two people have told me to use ATF and two tell me that ATF will ruin the seals. What is the true story? Signed Confused and forkless Kenneth Winter 1990 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Modulators Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:36:37 -0500 A properly constructed headlamp modulator (Kriss or Kisan) meets Federal standards and is legal in all 50 states. It has to turn itself off if the ambient light grow too dim, modulate at a certain rate and have a fail-safe circuit - That is, if the modulation circuitry gives out, the headlamp will still operate normally. The "parts traffic like the Red Sea" effect is a real plus, too! =) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with SMTP id JAA26092 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:56:55 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:55:10 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Korbel Subject: PC800: PC800 Previous Bikes 1961 - Jawa Pioneer (50cc) 1966 - Cz - scooter (175cc) 1968 - Jawa 350 (350cc) 1975 - Honda XL 350 1978 or 1979 - Honda CX 500 (suprising how many PC owners had this bike before) 1994 - PC800 model 1990 (apple red) Next: R 1150 LT (just introduced) or GW 1800 - when ????? Whoever came with this topic, thanks for the memories! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:00:03 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "'List-PC800'" , "Rich Fenwick" Subject: RE: PC800: "Visibility, Sir" ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Fenwick" >Modulators are designed to work on the high beam of a headlight... That way >when you switch to the low beam, the modulator is not used, and the low beam >is a steady beam. > >If when using a modulator on high beam, one does come up on traffic, or any >circumstance where the modulator is unwanted, switch to low beam. Problem >solved. The problem, as I see it, is that the high beam is too bright and dazzling - if it caused a 'problem' with the officer this morning, I can only imagine what would have happened if it had been high beam AND modulating. Also, once switching back to low-beam I'm going back into semi-stealth mode. The low-beam is just not that visible if the high beam is adjusted for good projection - hence my thoughts of putting the modulator on the low beam. And I just noticed that VA law says it's legal to put the modulator on the high beam (but does not say it's legal to put it on the low beam). Sheesh. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:04:21 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC800 Previous Bikes Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:04:19 +0100 > From: George Korbel[SMTP:korbel1@llnl.gov] > Next: R 1150 LT (just introduced) or GW 1800 - when ????? > I know of the K1200LT and the updated R1100RT which they now call the R1150RT, but I don't know a R1150LT... is that the RT with heated seat and fridge ? I'd go with the GW1800 when I would have enough money to choose between them... Emile www.piloot.com ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, yo