********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Hitting nutral once eng is warm (Was Safety or repair????? ?) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 01:07:48 -0800 We're appreciative of many forms of communication in my sector of the Beta Quadrant. Rick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan A. Goula" To: "PC800" Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Hitting nutral once eng is warm (Was Safety or repair????? ?) victoria sheets wrote: > > n u t r a l = n e u t r a l ??????????????? Only in select time-space continuums. Please call "1-800-Q RULES" to find out if there is one conviniently near you. :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:35:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: =) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 05:35:15 -0600 Unplugged. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: RE: PC800: =) > >From: eddie > >Okay, if getting a ST1100 is going over to the "dark side", > >Is riding a bicycle considered going acoustic? -eddie > > a·cous·tic (?-ku'stik) > adj. also a·cous·ti·cal (-sti-k?l). > 1. Of or relating to sound, the sense of hearing, or the > science of sound. > 2. Designed to carry sound or to aid in hearing. > 3. Music. > a. Of, relating to, or being an instrument that does > not feature electronically modified sound: an > acoustic guitar; an acoustic bass. > b. Being a performance that features such instruments: > opened the show with an acoustic set. > n. Music. > An acoustic instrument. > a·cous'ti·cal·ly adv. > > > ...eeehhhhmmm... say again ? > > -emile > Dumb Dutch > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Emile Nossin" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: =) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:51:02 -0500 Sorry Emile. It was a bad play on "unplugged" instrumental music. As in un-power-assisted 2-wheel cycles. =) -eddie (goofy American) >>From: eddie >>Okay, if getting a ST1100 is going over to the "dark side", >>Is riding a bicycle considered going acoustic? -eddie > >a·cous·tic (?-ku'stik) >adj. also a·cous·ti·cal (-sti-k?l). >1. Of or relating to sound, the sense of hearing, or the > science of sound. >2. Designed to carry sound or to aid in hearing. >3. Music. > a. Of, relating to, or being an instrument that does > not feature electronically modified sound: an > acoustic guitar; an acoustic bass. > b. Being a performance that features such instruments: > opened the show with an acoustic set. >n. Music. >An acoustic instrument. >a·cous'ti·cal·ly adv. > > >...eeehhhhmmm... say again ? > >-emile >Dumb Dutch > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:26:39 -0500 Have any of you used this product? It sure looks like a great accessory for the PC. http://www.fumotovalve.com/ If so, which model number did you use? ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Harvey Sattin" , "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:52:25 -0600 Ummm... No thanks. If this was for a car or truck where the drain plug was difficult to reach, then I'd think differently. But the PC's plug is so easy to reach, I don't see any advantage. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: PC800 List (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:26 AM Subject: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? > Have any of you used this product? > It sure looks like a great accessory for the PC. > > http://www.fumotovalve.com/ > > If so, which model number did you use? > > ~Harvey Sattin > Brookline, MA > '98 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:59:17 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? To: Harvey@rachis.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'm very dodgy with this idea as it means you COULD loose your oil, think i would stick to the bold done upto factory specs. Laters -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: "'Fenwick'" , "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:53:17 -0500 Big advantage Rich, at least for me. I drain my oil when it's hot. When pulling the plug, I let it drop into the rest of the hot draining oil or get burned. Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the plug out of the hot drained oil. This valve just looked like it would make oil changes much more pleasant. ~Harvey -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Fenwick [mailto:rfenwick@core.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:52 AM To: Harvey Sattin; PC800 List (E-mail) Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Ummm... No thanks. If this was for a car or truck where the drain plug was difficult to reach, then I'd think differently. But the PC's plug is so easy to reach, I don't see any advantage. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:26:15 -0400 (AST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:26:15 -0400 From: Daniel MacKay Cc: Harvey Sattin Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? For me it would be a problem of ground clearance -- the little protective wall in the engine case front of the drain plug on my PC is beaten up enough, and the front exhaust pipe ding'd enough to know that if there was anything poking down lower than that, it would get broken off on a rock at some point, most likely on a wood road 30 miles from another vehicle, which would really put an end to a day exploring back roads. -- Daniel MacKay Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Harvey Sattin" , "'Fenwick'" , "PC800 List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:32:02 -0800 Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the > plug out of the hot drained oil. > > ~Harvey > Harvey, I hope you're wearing hand protection. There is some evidence that used motor oil is a carcinogen. Just one more reason why I tend to wreck 'em whenever the oil needs changed. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:25:37 -0600 "Re: PC800: =)" (Feb 1, 5:35am) To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Re: Bicycle Gasless? Actually, if you look at what the word really means, when I bi= cycle (two wheels) I am auto-mobile (self moving). Revill Rider of Whirby On Feb 1, 5:35am, Ralph Couey wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: =3D) > Unplugged. > > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emile Nossin" > To: "PC800" > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:36 PM > Subject: RE: PC800: =3D) > > > > >From: eddie > > >Okay, if getting a ST1100 is going over to the "dark side", > > >Is riding a bicycle considered going acoustic? -eddie > > > > a=B7cous=B7tic (?-ku'stik) > > adj. also a=B7cous=B7ti=B7cal (-sti-k?l). > > 1. Of or relating to sound, the sense of hearing, or the > > science of sound. > > 2. Designed to carry sound or to aid in hearing. > > 3. Music. > > a. Of, relating to, or being an instrument that does > > not feature electronically modified sound: an > > acoustic guitar; an acoustic bass. > > b. Being a performance that features such instruments: > > opened the show with an acoustic set. > > n. Music. > > An acoustic instrument. > > a=B7cous'ti=B7cal=B7ly adv. > > > > > > ...eeehhhhmmm... say again ? > > > > -emile > > Dumb Dutch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: "'Great Ned '" , Harvey Sattin , "''Fenwick' '" , "'PC800 List (E-mail) '" Subject: RE: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:24:34 -0500 Lee, I heard the same thing about motor oil. Next time I shall practice "safe service" and wear protection. Thanks for reminding me (and the rest of us). ~Harvey -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Great Ned To: Harvey Sattin; 'Fenwick'; PC800 List (E-mail) Sent: 2/1/01 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the > plug out of the hot drained oil. > > ~Harvey > Harvey, I hope you're wearing hand protection. There is some evidence that used motor oil is a carcinogen. Just one more reason why I tend to wreck 'em whenever the oil needs changed. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:41:57 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "George Hilsinger" To: sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us, Ahall77379@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: HID lighting Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:41:56 -0800 >From: "Goldberg, Saul" >To: "'Ahall77379@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: RE: PC800: HID lighting >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:32:11 -0500 > >I do not disagree, altogether. But I also think that much/most of the >problem, as someone else said, comes from mis-aiming. Actually, a major problem with many of the vehicles now using higher than standard brightness bulbs is that the headlamp assemblies were not designed to adequately control the brighter light. US headlamps are notoriously sloppy in their light handling, and putting in a brighter bulb creates a lot of additional unwanted glare for approaching vehicles, whether or not they are properly aimed. E Code headlamps must pass tests showing that they are capable of much tighter cut off of the unwanted light. George Hilsinger 97 PC800 Gypsy Yakima, WA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:42:43 -0600 "RE: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800?" (Feb 1, 9:24am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Harvey Sattin Subject: PC800: Re:Motor Oil a carcinogen Motor oil is not particularly a carcinogen, but some of the byproducts of combustion that are found in used motor oil can possibly be. So, don't use old motor oil as a hand creme. I think that's about all that's recommended. If you are changing oil in a warm engine (as you should be, cold oil leaves a lot of sludge in the bottom of the pan) you won't want to get your hands in the oil because it is uncomfortably warm. About dropping the plug in the drain pan, I unscrew it most of the way, then the last few turns I do by hand. That way I get singed fingers, but don't drop the plug. Another method is to put a bit of paper towel in the socket before putting it on the plug. The paper towel takes up a little room, making the bolt head stay in the socket when it unscrews. Revill Rider of Whirby. Not automobile today. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:49:52 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? To: PC800 I wonder if the threads stop short of entering the oil pan. If the threads go beyond you could prevent some sludge of exiting the oil pan. Won't it act like a little dam? ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:52:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:52:52 -0600 >From: Harvey Sattin Have any of you used this product? It sure looks like >a great accessory for the PC. I have to go with Rich on this one and for the same reasons, the plug is just too easy to get to. Besides which, changing the oil and filter is one of those easy little tasks with a high satisfaction gradiant, a little job that makes you feel good when it's done. I don't really want to speed it up any. And while on the subject, I use an oil collection pan with a screen on the top that will catch the plug while the oil drains down into the bottom of the pan. It also has a little ridge to hold the oil filter so it drains out also. This thing is about 6 inchs high so it slids under the PC with room to spare. Available at auto parts stores. Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'George Hilsinger'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: HID lighting Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:06:30 -0500 Good point, George. I learn so much from this list. How many people, for example would ever even have a clue about the point you raised? Many drivers, and even some bikers are confounded when it doesn't start, stop, or turn as they think it should, much less to have a deeper understanding and literacy concerning the actual machine and the engineering concepts behind it. Thanks for sharing. Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89 PC--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: George Hilsinger [mailto:george_hilsinger@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:42 AM To: sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us; Ahall77379@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: HID lighting >From: "Goldberg, Saul" >To: "'Ahall77379@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: RE: PC800: HID lighting >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:32:11 -0500 > >I do not disagree, altogether. But I also think that much/most of the >problem, as someone else said, comes from mis-aiming. Actually, a major problem with many of the vehicles now using higher than standard brightness bulbs is that the headlamp assemblies were not designed to adequately control the brighter light. US headlamps are notoriously sloppy in their light handling, and putting in a brighter bulb creates a lot of additional unwanted glare for approaching vehicles, whether or not they are properly aimed. E Code headlamps must pass tests showing that they are capable of much tighter cut off of the unwanted light. George Hilsinger 97 PC800 Gypsy Yakima, WA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MCJoel48@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:14:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:14:26 EST Subject: PC800: Register request To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu register pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Harvey Sattin" , "PC800 List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:32:53 -0800 Looks like it might be good for a car, but on the PC it would be hanging down below the frame rails and be the first thing knocked off if you bottom out. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harvey Sattin" To: "PC800 List (E-mail)" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:26 AM Subject: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? > Have any of you used this product? > It sure looks like a great accessory for the PC. > > http://www.fumotovalve.com/ > > If so, which model number did you use? > > ~Harvey Sattin > Brookline, MA > '98 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:39:07 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:38:20 -0800 To: "Revill Dunn" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Harvey Sattin From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Motor Oil a carcinogen My drain tub came with a small grate that sits in the opening. When bolt is loose, I just let it drop on the grate and pick it up when the oil stops draining. In addition, I just put the filter face down on the grate and let it drain into the oil tub. The tub has a cap on one side which allows for pouring the spent oil out into what ever you store it is later. It is the easiest solution I have found to keeping my hands out of the oil when I drop the drain plug. Jim Alexander At 06:42 AM 02/01/2001, Revill Dunn wrote: > >Motor oil is not particularly a carcinogen, but some of the byproducts of >combustion that are found in used motor oil can possibly be. So, don't >use old >motor oil as a hand creme. I think that's about all that's recommended. > >If you are changing oil in a warm engine (as you should be, cold oil leaves a >lot of sludge in the bottom of the pan) you won't want to get your hands >in the >oil because it is uncomfortably warm. > >About dropping the plug in the drain pan, I unscrew it most of the way, then >the last few turns I do by hand. That way I get singed fingers, but don't >drop >the plug. Another method is to put a bit of paper towel in the socket before >putting it on the plug. The paper towel takes up a little room, making the >bolt head stay in the socket when it unscrews. > >Revill >Rider of Whirby. Not automobile today. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:54:52 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Harvey Sattin CC: "List-PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin > Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the >> plug out of the hot drained oil. > Or put a piece of old window screen over your oil drain pan. Or get one of those flat-sided drain things that's a drain pan on its side, and a jerry can with a cap when you stand it upright. Personally I don't want to make it too easy for the oil to leave my engine. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:58:43 -0400 To: PC800 From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Two other notes: Your PC's oil drain plug has a little dimple and a magnet in it that collects ferrous particles which is presumably a good thing (don't forget to clean it when you change oil.) To fish the plug out of the hot oil, use the magnet you keep in your toolkit. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" , "LDRiders" Subject: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:00:07 -0800 I want to thank everyone who answered my questions about my planned trip north to the Artic Circle. I have scheduled my vacation starting the second week of July and have a month to do what every I want. I have uploaded the pre-planned route to my web site and would like anymore recommendations or suggestions. I know there will be detours off the main route for sights to see that come up and that's why the fine tuning. Anyway, my planned route can be viewed at: http://wills-domain.com/artic_circle.html Again, thanks to all who responded. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:06:08 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: What to check "Revvy" writes: >There's a couple of things I check on any used vehicle purchase. No, I don't >smell the oil. What should it smell like? It's the same indicators that you get from sniffin' and checking the tailpipe; you can tell from the smell how old the oil is. If the engine has overheated it'll smell burnt. If it's really black, it's been in the bike too long. And if there's coolant or water in it it'll be whitish and creamy. >Check the air cleaner. I dunno about you, Rev, but I wouldn't let Joe Idiot come off the street and take the saddle, maint ducts, upper side panels and top cover off MY PC to look to the air cleaner. R&R of that is a half-hour job at the best of times. >Stick your finger in the exhaust pipe. It should be fairly clean in there. > Sticky is bad news indeed. Sooty isn't great news, but might just be a dirty >air cleaner. City bikes which run on the choke most of the time are also sooty. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:09:55 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:09:55 -0300 Hi: Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down there? Best Regards, Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:38:10 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? >Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that >fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down >there? Change the oil in front of your neighbour's house, not yours. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:48:40 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Bumar" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:48:40 Juanro wrote: "Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down there?" I don't know if you can avoid spilling oil from the old filter. I always let all the oil drain out of the engine before I take the filter off. Then I put the drain pan under the filter before take it off. A little oil always pours down onto the exhaust pipe; I just wipe it off after I put the new filter on. It may be a good idea to let the pipe cool off before you remove the filter. BTW, I use my extendo-magnet to fish the drain plug out of the oil pan. Here's another question: How often do you replace the oil drain plug crush washer? I forgot to get a new one before my last oil change. The old one seems to be working OK. I usually ask for a new one when I get a new filter, but some of the parts dudes act like I'm just being anal retentive about it. (I know, most of the people working behind the parts counter only know what they can read on a fiche, but if everyone got a new crush washer every time they changed their oil, it wouldn't seem strange to them.) Rich Bumar Orlando, FL 96 PC800T _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:51:51 -0500 From: sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) To: pc800black@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IE9pbCCgY2hhbmdlcyBhbmQgZHJpcHM=?= Juanro, I don't worry about the oil dripping on the hot exhaust pipe while I am unscrewing the filter. Tilting the unsrewed filter prevents most of the oil in the filter from dripping out. If you position the waste oil container carefully, you can catch the oil before it ends up on the driveway. Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD "Juanro ." wrote: > > Hi: > > Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that > fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down > there? > > Best Regards, > > > Juanro > 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Chris Russell-Wood Silver Spring, Maryland 1997 PC 800 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:56:22 -0500 From: sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) To: Harvey@rachis.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? I've found that loosening the drain plug with a socket to the "finger loose" point, then pushing upward against the plug while unsrewing it by hand prevents oil from coming out. When the plug starts to wobble and a tiny little bit of oil starts seeping, you should be able to get your hand and the plug out of the way of the hot gushing oil stream. Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD wrote: > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Harvey Sattin > > Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the > >> plug out of the hot drained oil.  > > > Or put a piece of old window screen over your oil drain pan.  Or get one of > those flat-sided drain things that's a drain pan on its side, and a jerry can > with a cap when you stand it upright. > > Personally I don't want to make it too easy for the oil to leave my engine. > > :-) > Chris Norloff > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Chris Russell-Wood Silver Spring, Maryland 1997 PC 800 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "Beau Williams" , "pc" Subject: RE: PC800: Clothing Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:07:47 -0800 Importance: Normal I wear the Aerostich Darien year-round. Of course, where I live and ride that only means temperatures from about 30 F to about 100 F. At the colder temperatures, my fingers have limited my riding; I just got a pair of Alpine Stars Twist gloves, with Goretex, a "windstopper" lining, and insulation, so hopefully my hands can take it, now. I love it. I ride in torrential rain and do not get wet until my boots leak. I ride to meetings with clients, sometimes with a tie (suit coat folded carefully in the truck) and they only know I came on a bike if I tell 'em, or if I bring my helmet in. It is tough to fit the jacket with liner, pants, and helmet all into the trunk, but 2 out of the 3 go in easily; I usually wear my jacket or carry the helmet (in a helmet bag). Regards, ___________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 East Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA 91360 PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Beau Williams Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:41 PM To: pc Subject: PC800: Clothing Hi, all... ...long time, no write. It's a long and sordid story why I've been off list since right before the y2k ride, but the short version is that this long commute (3-4 hours per day) has effectively destroyed my personal time and I just can't participate in the chatting anymore. I'm looking for something closer, but it hasn't happened yet. Anyway; the reason I'm writing at the moment is because I'm real close to joining the ranks of the "armor-alls" and needed some fresh advice. At the moment, I'm examing the "Roadmaster" and "Darian" suits from Aerostitch. I'd like your bullet points on the following riding needs: 1. Will be used for commuting mostly. 2. Winter mornings = 35-50 degrees/Summer evenings 65-85 degrees. 3. Wear over clothing. Mostly casual dress, but possibly suit&tie in the future. 4. Stores easily in the PC's trunk. 5. Rain concerns are light as I don't often ride in the rain, but of course, a good rain rating would be nice. 6. Black; it's gotta' be black (with silver trim.) The Darthmeister wears only black. How does either the Roadmaster or Darian line up with the above? How about any others? Just let it fly...I'll sift out the applicable comments and go from there. Since I'm currently off-list, respond to my address directly. Thanks in advance... "Darth" Beau Ventura Co., CA 1994 Black PC 800 "Emperor Palpatine" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:30:38 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: What to check Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:30:38 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Revill Dunn To: Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: PC800: What to check > I wrote this once, but I must have sent it to a single lister instead of the > group. Oh, Well. When are we going to get the mindreader functions initiated? > > There's a couple of things I check on any used vehicle purchase. No, I don't > smell the oil. What should it smell like? > Toast. > Has anyone else noticed how easy it is to diagnose the health of cars in front > of you on the highway? Brake fluid leaking, low compression, oil burning, > stuck choke, driver smoking pot, all of these are easily and immediately > identifiable at freeway speeds for me. Can you do that? Just look at how many cars drive around with red warning lights illuminated on the dash. I see lots. > > Revill > Not a rider today because the weather was too nice and I rode the bicycle. Russ, a rider today despite the freezing fog and roads covered in salt. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:03:14 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:03:13 >Have any of you used this product? >It sure looks like a great accessory for the PC. >http://www.fumotovalve.com/ Sounded like a great idea, but how about if the cock seized? Warm it up like mircowaving blinker fluid seems won't work... - Philips _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:25:57 -0500 (EST) From: DreamWeaver To: PC800 LIST , Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: RE: PC800: NYC show X-WM-FaxTo: ------Original Message------ Please, if you haven't stepped forth already, let me/us know if you are even thinking about attending for a rockin' good time! Chris: I'm going to NYC shwo - please let me know of any group plans Bill Lucek '97 PC800 'DreamWeaver' '...My course is as elusive as a shodow across the sky' ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:33:35 EST Subject: Re: PC800: HID lighting To: george_hilsinger@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/01 8:42:11 AM Central Standard Time, george_hilsinger@hotmail.com writes: > Actually, a major problem with many of the vehicles now using higher than > standard brightness bulbs is that the headlamp assemblies were not designed > to adequately control the brighter light. US headlamps are notoriously > sloppy in their light handling, and putting in a brighter bulb creates a > lot > of additional unwanted glare for approaching vehicles, whether or not they > are properly aimed. E Code headlamps must pass tests showing that they are > capable of much tighter cut off of the unwanted light. > > I wasn't aware of this. Interesting. Something to keep in mind. I will need to pay attention to the lights on vehicles now to determine which bright lights seem to annoy and corollate that to the type of auto. Maybe the problem IS the modified vehicles. Thanks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:10:38 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: NYC show To: captaintupperware@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Nothing like a North Eastern Coasters' gathering in the dead of winter to get one ready for the first ride of Spring (rumor has it that Spring is on the way). I am planning on driving down in the morning and returning home the same day. I'll put the $125 room savings toward my new Givi E52:-) Please let me know what day dinner is planned for as I am flexible on the day I attend. I hope to see EVERY north eastern Coaster there this year:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" captaintupperware@yahoo.com writes: >Greetings from Western Mass > >Don't forget about the NYC motorcycle show happening >on the 23-25th of Feb. > >I will make up a simple webpage soon and send the list >the URL. Dinner has been planned - lunch has not.. >suggestions for possible after dinner events would be >cool too! > >As FSL once said in a dream - it's not really about >the shows - it's about us and our common bond of "one >bike, one religion" > >;-) > >Please, if you haven't stepped forth already, let >me/us know if you are even thinking about attending >for a rockin' good time! > >===== >Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar >AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:28:32 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? To: greatned@quik.com, Harvey@rachis.com, rfenwick@core.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/01 6:22:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, greatned@quik.com writes: << Just one more reason why I tend to wreck 'em whenever the oil needs changed. >> Dang, Lee! No foolin? I hope like hell you aint no airline pilot!!!!! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:34:50 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:34:50 -0300 Hi: Ok - so oil _will_ drip in the exhaust pipe. (But not to the floor if you do the things right). I thought mine were routed wrong ;-) Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MCJoel48@aol.com for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:35:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:35:45 EST Subject: PC800: Sorry for sending the subscribe request incorrectly To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu PC800 Listers, Sorry to bother the list when I sent my subscribe request to the wrong address. I should have known better - I was on the list part of last year. I've now correctly subscribed to the list (again). Joel Barlow Belle Mead, NJ '98 Pacific Coast- "Serendipity" AMA: #319133 HRCA: #465660 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:57:02 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: On the subject of lights and visibility... How about a set of these for the PC? :-) http://visualfxonline.com/redflasher.htm They will probably work best of the '97-'98 models. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: On the subject of lights and visibility... Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:09:53 -0500 I tried ONE on my Transalp. I was concerned that the extra weight would affect the balance of the tire. (It did). Not to mention the fact that when I removed it, it unscrewed the valve core a slight amount. That resulted in a tire with just a few pounds of air in it 10 hours later when I went to ride home from work. =) >How about a set of these for the PC? :-) > >http://visualfxonline.com/redflasher.htm > >They will probably work best of the '97-'98 models. > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks >Fairbanks, Alaska >(907)474-5520 >Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W >------------------------------------------------- >Second star on the right, >then straight on 'til morning... > * > > * > * > * > * * > > * * >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:16:38 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC list Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil I found that an old set of heavy winter gloves works great for taking off oil plugs. They keep the oil off your hands, avoiding burns and toxins. They can be used over and over again, and you don't drop the plug. I am using the same pair for about 5 years on all my cars and bikes. Thomas Harvey Sattin wrote: > > Big advantage Rich, at least for me. > I drain my oil when it's hot. > When pulling the plug, I let it drop into the rest of the hot draining oil > or get burned. Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the > plug out of the hot drained oil. This valve just looked like it would make > oil changes much more pleasant. > > ~Harvey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fenwick [mailto:rfenwick@core.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:52 AM > To: Harvey Sattin; PC800 List (E-mail) > Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? > > Ummm... No thanks. > > If this was for a car or truck where the drain plug was difficult to reach, > then I'd think differently. But the PC's plug is so easy to reach, I don't > see any advantage. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:30:39 -0500 To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: =?iso-8859-1?Q?There_is_a_God!__50=B0_Boston=2C_and_a_bike_show_this_week?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?end_to_boot!?= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:30:18 -0500 Importance: Normal For once I was lucky enough to be home early and get to enjoy this rare 50 degree day in Boston. The PC has been long asleep, so I fired up the always ready, 1977 Vespa P200E! Away I went, the temp was prefect for a hour long ride. Anything that gets me on 2 wheels is great! I never would have expected this chance, but I was happy to get it, I hope other Mass people got a chance to ride a bit. PS: Don't forget about the show at Bayside in Boston this weekend. All I know right now it is a bike show, I am going, just wondering if anyone else here was going too? I won't be riding, and definitely not the Vespa! Take care all Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:14:31 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Sorry for sending the subscribe request incorrectly To: MCJoel48@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" MCJoel48@aol.com writes: >PC800 Listers, > >Sorry to bother the list when I sent my subscribe request to the wrong >address. >I should have known better - I was on the list part of last year. > >I've now correctly subscribed to the list (again). > >Joel Barlow >Belle Mead, NJ >'98 Pacific Coast- "Serendipity" > >AMA: #319133 >HRCA: #465660 Welcome back Joel. Nice to "see" you again. Are you going to stop by the NYC motorcycle show Feb 23-25? There will be some of us there meeting up for food and conversation. Watch the list for details and email captaintupperware@yahoo.com if you can make it. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 22:52:29 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "PC800 group" Subject: PC800: NO more PC800 for Australia....until 2004 that is! Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:47:35 +1000 WoW! This week I started drooling again over the folders on the Suzuki = Bergman 400 that I brought back from the UK last summer, so decided to = fantasize about getting one here, probably second hand from Japan. Dream on Ron! The burocrats in Canberra have NOT been idle , they have made NEW import = restrictions that virtually insure it is TOTALLY impossible to import a = private vehicle. NOW you must own it one YEAR in the other country before you can bring = one in, previously when I got my PC it was 3 months.Of course you must = also prove tht you were 'with' the vehicle that entire time! Also, it is so funny how they close all the "loopholes' re = ownership....here are the list of things you must provide for 'proof' of = eligibility. They love paperwork in this country. Ah yes, all these rules hold up until the vehicle is 15 years old, THEN = you can bring in anything, easily. The following documents must be provided to establish ownership and use = of the vehicle overseas for twelve consecutive months, or more: a.. copy of passport ID page, showing citizenship=20 b.. copy of permanent resident visa=20 c.. passport stamps (full copies)=20 d.. statement of travel=20 e.. purchase documents=20 f.. overseas registration documents in your name=20 The Administrator may require the applicant to submit original = documentation (not photocopies) to confirm eligibility under the = Personal Import Scheme. Further documents that may be required include: a.. Previous owner's de-registration certificate for the vehicle=20 b.. Overseas registration certificate, from time of purchase, to time = of deregistration, in the applicants name=20 c.. Overseas de-registration certificate, in the applicant's name, = showing the date the vehicle was deregistered in the overseas country=20 d.. Vehicle insurance documents in the applicant's name=20 e.. In countries where it is applicable - a parking approval in the = applicant's name showing that the applicant had permission to park the = vehicle=20 f.. Documents, in the applicant's name, in relation to the purchase of = the vehicle, for example, cheque butts, bank statement/credit card = statement, ATM withdrawal document, receipt from vendor of vehicle=20 g.. Documents, in the applicant's name, showing that the applicant = paid for any repairs to the vehicle=20 h.. The applicant's passport with exit and entry stamps that indicate = when the applicant left and returned to Australia and show that the = applicant was continuously with the vehicle in the overseas country for = the required period=20 i.. The applicant's Drivers licence - Australian, international or = issued by the overseas country=20 j.. Proof that the applicant is currently resident in Australia=20 k.. Proof that the applicant returns to Australia with the vehicle=20 l.. The applicant must produce a copy of both passports when dual = passports are held=20 So much for that idea! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch vehicle=20
  • Documents, in the applicant’s name, = showing that the=20 applicant paid for any repairs to the vehicle=20
  • The applicant’s passport with exit and = entry stamps=20 that indicate when the applicant left and returned to Australia and = show that=20 the applicant was continuously with the vehicle in the overseas = country for=20 the required period=20
  • The applicant’s Drivers licence = – Australian,=20 international or issued by the overseas country=20
  • Proof that the applicant is currently = resident in=20 Australia=20
  • Proof that the applicant returns to = Australia with the=20 vehicle=20
  • The applicant must produce a copy of both = passports=20 when dual passports are held
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    Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!
     
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:29:44 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: On the subject of lights and visibility... To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu, PC800 As the owner of a 98 short skirt - The valve stem of the bike comes out at a weird angle - I wonder if they'd light up at all... :-) Christoffer who'd like to enter the Americade light contest - but the guy with gas flame always wins... I'll think about the "neon" rope trim first... --- "Juan A. Goula" wrote: > How about a set of these for the PC? :-) > > http://visualfxonline.com/redflasher.htm > > They will probably work best of the '97-'98 models. > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > Fairbanks, Alaska > (907)474-5520 > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > ------------------------------------------------- > Second star on the right, > then straight on 'til morning... > * > > * > * > * > * * > > * * > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:32:01 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: On the subject of lights and visibility... Christoffer Carstanjen wrote: > > As the owner of a 98 short skirt - The valve stem of > the bike comes out at a weird angle - I wonder if > they'd light up at all... Good point, I did not think about that. Both front and rear (at least on my '90) are angled, which means the caps probably would not work. Oh well. C'est la vie! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:38:22 -0800 From: "DJ Wooldridge" To: "PC800 group" Subject: Re: PC800: NO more PC800 for Australia....until 2004 that is! Wow I thought the US had some screwed up policies. I guess the California Air Resorces Board must be made up of retired Aussie politians. Try modifing a car engine in CA and still get it smogged... Maybe that is why I'm riding a motorcycle ... no smog test....YET! Damn Politians..... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:59:01 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: FS:89 PC, 2600 miles, $ 2500 , CA. in Carbuyer: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:58:28 +0100 1989 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast =20 Make=20 Model=20 Year=20 Colors (Ext/Int)=20 Miles=20 Price=20 Private =20 Location=20 Phone=20 E-mail=20 Honda =20 PC800 Pacific Coast =20 1989 =20 White =20 2600 =20 $2500 =20 Carlos =20 Oakley, CA =20 (925) 7782786 or (209) 9886117 =20 cemunoz@mindspring.com =20 =20 Description:=20 =20 Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik 800 "SOS"=20 PCRC # 2
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    Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 00:32:22 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "JJC" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Re: Oil a carcinogen Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:31:59 -0500 Used motor oil is a carcinogen. If you inject enough into rats for a long enough time it has been confirmed to cause cancer. Crazy but true someone really does this stuff for a living. Ouch! I use disposable latex gloves to tighten the filter and remove the plug. It keeps my hands clean and gives a good grip. Since I smoked for a long time I'm not worried about the cancer from the oil contact. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:04:39 -0800 From: "DJ Wooldridge" To: "PC 800 LIST" , Arvid L=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F8?=vik Subject: Re: PC800: FS:89 PC, 2600 miles, $ 2500 , CA. in Carbuyer: Thanks for the scoop I will be heading up that way to buy it tommorow, already made arangements with the owner I'll give you the lowdown on it after I ride it back Hee hee yeah it has been laid down on one side and has faring dammage!!!!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:20:32 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Macy Subject: PC800: Datel Buy: Actual Cost To: List ST1100 , List PC800 TO: ST100 List PC800 List Fr: Scuffy ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: February 1, 2001 I have negotiated a final cost on the Datel voltmeter: $34.00/unit + $6.00 for the bezel/gasket = $40.00 This is the best price Datel can give us, and it is usually reserved for wholesalers who purchase 500+ units. It is a savings of $16/unit over retail price. This is a VERY generous offer on Datel's part, because the unit that we are buying is one of the best on the market and is totally waterproof. We already have 66 confirmed units and I wanted to let everyone on these two lists know that if you are still interested I can still accept orders IF you are willing to commit right away and IF you pay right away. As soon as I have the funds from the Group Buy participants, the open window closes... Here are the details: One Voltmeter Voltmeter + Bezel/Gasket $40.00 Shipping 5.00 Total: $45.00 Two Voltmeters Voltmeters + Bezels/Gaskets $80.00 Shipping 7.00 Total: $87.00 Three Voltmeters Voltmeters + Bezels/Gaskets $120.00 Shipping 8.00 Total: $128.00 I can accept two methods of payment. I set up a PayPal account on the advice of more than one lister. If you have a PayPal account, you can pay me directly through your account by contacting me and requesting the e-mail address that I use at my PayPal account (It's NOT my Yahoo! e-mail address). If you do not have a PayPal account but wish to pay in that manner you can set one up at www.paypal.com. If you wish to use more conventional means of payment, please send a Money Order to: Tim Macy 1205 Oak Knoll Ct Newberg, OR 97132 I would like to ask that you please pay as quickly as you can. If it were a smaller buy, I wouldn’t think twice about ordering and just having everyone pay me back. This order, however, is already $2,700! So I’ll have to have the money before I can make the buy, okay? Please contact me directly at: stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com if you are interested and give me: Full name Full Address + Zip (no PO boxes) # of meters METHOD OF PAYMENT (I will use this to keep track of what's coming in) If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me directly and ask away. I (usually) read my Yahoo! e-mail at work and will strive to answer all questions in a timely manner... Isn't this fun? ===== Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (121K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (18K) AMA #492485, HRCA #239441, HSTA #6030, RCMC, STOC #1571 __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:21:01 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Oil a carcinogen JJC wrote: > > Used motor oil is a carcinogen. If you inject enough into rats for a long > enough time it has been confirmed to cause cancer. Crazy but true someone > really does this stuff for a living. Ouch! Heh heh heh... You know, you could probably get cancer to develop in rats if you injected them with Kool-Aid (long enough of course). :-) Did you guys know that water (plain H two Oh) has an MSD (material safety data) sheet? Of course, you can't trust it very much. It claims no adverse side effects from inhalation. I don't know about you, but I consider drowning a pretty adverse effect! :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:27:58 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roy Cummings" To: "Pacific Coast Net" Subject: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:27:56 -0500 Problem: Beer Spill. Question: Can someone give me the washing/drying instructions for the Darien Jacket Liner? TIA Roy Cummings '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:17:44 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions To: royeric@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/2001 8:28:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, royeric@erols.com writes: > > Problem: Beer Spill. > > Question: Can someone give me the washing/drying instructions for the > Darien Jacket Liner? > > TIA > > Roy Cummings > '98 PC800 > Washing Instructions: Turn on Weather Channel. Locate Thunderstorm-or at least some green and red spots near your vicinity. Hop on PC to red and/or green spotted areas shown on radar. Get very wet. Ride towards dry area at posted speed for one hour. Wash complete. OPTIONAL: Snuggle fabric softener sheet may be worn underneath to enhance snugglie-softness. Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:48:45 -0800 Actually that works pretty good, riding into the storm. I noticed that = after riding in a hot humid area with lots of bugs that get splattered = all over myself and the bike that if you ride into a hail & down pour = that it cleans everything up pretty good.=20 Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com=20 To: royeric@erols.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions In a message dated 2/1/2001 8:28:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 royeric@erols.com writes:=20 Problem: Beer Spill.=20 Question: Can someone give me the washing/drying instructions for = the=20 Darien Jacket Liner?=20 TIA=20 Roy Cummings=20 '98 PC800=20 Washing Instructions:=20 Turn on Weather Channel.=20 Locate Thunderstorm-or at least some green and red spots near your = vicinity.=20 Hop on PC to red and/or green spotted areas shown on radar.=20 Get very wet.=20 Ride towards dry area at posted speed for one hour.=20 Wash complete.=20 OPTIONAL:=20 Snuggle fabric softener sheet may be worn underneath to enhance=20 snugglie-softness.=20 Troy Doyle=20 '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M=20 Summerville, SC=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Will Edwards" , "PC800" , "LDRiders" Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:53:15 -0800 Just to let all of you know, I have learned how to spell Arctic, like in Arctic Circle. Please don't tell anyone that I couldn't spell it right the first time, it is north of here I hope. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" ; "LDRiders" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle > I want to thank everyone who answered my questions about my planned trip > north to the Artic Circle. I have scheduled my vacation starting the second > week of July and have a month to do what every I want. I have uploaded the > pre-planned route to my web site and would like anymore recommendations or > suggestions. I know there will be detours off the main route for sights to > see that come up and that's why the fine tuning. Anyway, my planned route > can be viewed at: > http://wills-domain.com/artic_circle.html > > Again, thanks to all who responded. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > . > . > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Will Edwards" , "PC800" , "LDRiders" Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:31:57 -0500 Good Luck Will, My trip to the Circle was the time of my life! Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" ; "LDRiders" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle > I want to thank everyone who answered my questions about my planned trip > north to the Artic Circle. I have scheduled my vacation starting the second > week of July and have a month to do what every I want. I have uploaded the > pre-planned route to my web site and would like anymore recommendations or > suggestions. I know there will be detours off the main route for sights to > see that come up and that's why the fine tuning. Anyway, my planned route > can be viewed at: > http://wills-domain.com/artic_circle.html > > Again, thanks to all who responded. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > . > . > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:52:35 -0500 You forgot! Fill pockets with laundry detergent prior to the ride! Mike Whited ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com=20 To: royeric@erols.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Darien Liner Washing Instructions In a message dated 2/1/2001 8:28:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 royeric@erols.com writes:=20 Problem: Beer Spill.=20 Question: Can someone give me the washing/drying instructions for = the=20 Darien Jacket Liner?=20 TIA=20 Roy Cummings=20 '98 PC800=20 Washing Instructions:=20 Turn on Weather Channel.=20 Locate Thunderstorm-or at least some green and red spots near your = vicinity.=20 Hop on PC to red and/or green spotted areas shown on radar.=20 Get very wet.=20 Ride towards dry area at posted speed for one hour.=20 Wash complete.=20 OPTIONAL:=20 Snuggle fabric softener sheet may be worn underneath to enhance=20 snugglie-softness.=20 Troy Doyle=20 '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M=20 Summerville, SC=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Thomas Ongstad" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:57:38 -0500 I have been using latex glove to work on my vehicles for the past few years. I love being able to sneak to the garage and work on something without have to degrease after working. I just have to remember to take my good pants off. Kenneth Winter > I found that an old set of heavy winter gloves works great for taking > off oil plugs. They keep the oil off your hands, avoiding burns and > toxins. They can be used over and over again, and you don't drop the > plug. I am using the same pair for about 5 years on all my cars and > bikes. > > Thomas > > Harvey Sattin wrote: > > > > Big advantage Rich, at least for me. > > I drain my oil when it's hot. > > When pulling the plug, I let it drop into the rest of the hot draining oil > > or get burned. Then when I'm ready to replace the plug I have to fish the > > plug out of the hot drained oil. This valve just looked like it would make > > oil changes much more pleasant. > > > > ~Harvey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fenwick [mailto:rfenwick@core.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:52 AM > > To: Harvey Sattin; PC800 List (E-mail) > > Subject: Re: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? > > > > Ummm... No thanks. > > > > If this was for a car or truck where the drain plug was difficult to reach, > > then I'd think differently. But the PC's plug is so easy to reach, I don't > > see any advantage. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) > 95Hannigan > 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) > GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 08:52:23 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: changing oil To: klw@centurytel.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" <3A79E046.B7F12BB9@voyager.net> <001101c08d20$1b62bee0$34a18ed1@w9z2e3> klw@centurytel.net writes: >I have been using latex glove to work on my vehicles for the past few years. >I love being able to sneak to the garage and work on something without have >to degrease after working. I just have to remember to take my good pants >off. > >Kenneth Winter That must be quite a show in your neighborhood Kenneth... pantsless man wearing only latex gloves walking out to the garage. How often do the police get called to check that one out:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:01:16 EST Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil To: klw@centurytel.net, gwta@voyager.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/2/01 5:48:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, klw@centurytel.net writes: << I just have to remember to take my good pants off. >> Say Ken, I hope that you have the decency to close the garage door if you are working out there with no pants on! ;-) Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:02:51 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "Juanro ." Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." >Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that >fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down >there? A piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the exhaust pipe? Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:06:45 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" >I have been using latex glove to work on my vehicles for the past few years. >I love being able to sneak to the garage and work on something without have >to degrease after working. I just have to remember to take my good pants >off. Don't your legs get cold and dirty that way? Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:31:40 -0600 "San Antonio Trip" (Feb 1, 9:07pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: San Antonio Trip All along, I'd thought you were talking about next Saturday, Tomorrow. Are we talking about next week, Saturday the 10th of February? Tomorrow looks like great weather. Either way, Saturday afternoon works extremely well for me. I don't know how much we can plan on the weather though. A whole week is a little far ahead to plan in Central Texas. I'm in, unless hell freezes over or the creeks rise. Either is quite possible. San Antonio Bill, you suggested a meeting place for the last Lost Maples run; where was it again? Austin Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:34:03 -0600 "Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle" (Feb 1, 10:53pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle One of them is, I think. Revill On Feb 1, 10:53pm, Will Edwards wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle > Just to let all of you know, I have learned how to spell Arctic, like in > Arctic Circle. Please don't tell anyone that I couldn't spell it right the > first time, it is north of here I hope. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Will Edwards -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:47:18 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Moto-Clothes Alterations? Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:47:18 I had my Firstgear cordura pants altered quite a while ago. I took it to Backlick Cleaners on Backlick Road just north of the Franconia Springfield Pkwy. Its a typical small cleaner place in a strip shopping mall. The tailor can't speak a lick of English, but she's a real wiz on the sewing machine. She measured me for length, I showed her the bad elastic at the waist and she got the message. When shortening the inseam she altered the zippper length without replacing it. Then she used the material cut off from the bottom cuffs to cover the oddly colored new elastic at the waistband. I had already returned the pants once to FirstGear to have the waistband replaced. Her fix has held up better than FirstGear's. >From: "James Reazor" >To: >Subject: Moto-Clothes Alterations? >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:53:59 -0500 > > I have a friend who is among the inseam-challenged. He has a Courda >suit >that fits perfectly except that the legs are about 4 inches too long. The >suit has a full lining and zippers at the cuffs. He's looking for a place >to >have it altered but would like recommendations before putting his gear at >risk. So if anyone has had this kind of thing done, let me know where. > >-James > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:08:40 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle To: rstar@aa.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/2/2001 1:53:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, rstar@aa.net writes: > > > Just to let all of you know, I have learned how to spell Arctic, like in > Arctic Circle. Please don't tell anyone that I couldn't spell it right the > first time, it is north of here I hope. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Pacifically speaking, you were most pacific... Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:19:29 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: cnorloff@norloff.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Juanro ." Subject: Re: Oil changes, was: PC800: Fumoto for your PC800? Boy, I wish I'd read that yesterday. I just changed my oil and got oil all over the exhaust pipe! Tony Chris Norloff wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Juanro ." > >> Now we're talking about oil changes again, how do you avoid the oil that >> fells when you unscrew the oil filter, to drop in the exhaust pipe down >> there? > > > A piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the exhaust pipe? > > Chris Norloff > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle To: Will Edwards , PC800 , LDRiders Hey, watch out for the bears!!!!!!! We want you back in one piece! http://www.nps.gov/aplic/ed_progs/bear_safety.html -CMC --- Will Edwards wrote: > Just to let all of you know, I have learned how to > spell Arctic, like in > Arctic Circle. Please don't tell anyone that I > couldn't spell it right the > first time, it is north of here I hope. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > . > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Will Edwards" > To: "PC800" ; "LDRiders" > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:00 AM > Subject: PC800: Trip to Artic Circle > > > > I want to thank everyone who answered my questions > about my planned trip > > north to the Artic Circle. I have scheduled my > vacation starting the > second > > week of July and have a month to do what every I > want. I have uploaded > the > > pre-planned route to my web site and would like > anymore recommendations or > > suggestions. I know there will be detours off the > main route for sights to > > see that come up and that's why the fine tuning. > Anyway, my planned route > > can be viewed at: > > http://wills-domain.com/artic_circle.html > > > > Again, thanks to all who responded. > > > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > > 96 PC800 > > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > > . > > . > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Kenneth Winter" , "Thomas Ongstad" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:25:30 -0800 Ken, I was going to comment about working on your bike pantless, but I see Tim already replied and said it all. Is your garage heated? If not I could see a use for a sheepskin hide instead of just the seat. I don't even want to know what you wear under your riding pants. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Thomas Ongstad" ; "Pacific Coast mailing list" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil > I have been using latex glove to work on my vehicles for the past few years. > I love being able to sneak to the garage and work on something without have > to degrease after working. I just have to remember to take my good pants > off. > > Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "snowbee" To: Subject: PC800: auth 8dfedd46 subscribe pc800 marc.vanhaelewyn@pandora.be Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:54:28 +0100 auth 8dfedd46 subscribe pc800 marc.vanhaelewyn@pandora.be -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G85HRP04.344 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:14:13 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 23:09:23 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: volkswagen sound My PC800 '89 is making a sound a little bit like an old volkswagen. Does this mean my exhaust leaks? Hans. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:22:36 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Hans Geelen" , Subject: Re: PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:23:45 -0600 There is a baffle inside your muffler that has broken loose. I should not be leaking because of that. If you can live with the sound, just tell people it has a VW motor. :-) If you want to replace it, take your piggy bank to the dealer when you order it. :-( Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hans Geelen" > My PC800 '89 is making a sound a little bit like an old volkswagen. Does > this mean my exhaust leaks? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G85IER01.JDX for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:28:03 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 23:23:13 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: volkswagen sound Steve, Thanks for the quick reply. Now that I know this I will tell the dealer to fix the muffler. I just bought the PC a week ago, and I still have a few month of warranty. So the piggy bank can be left home (I hope). Is there an obvious way to prove to the dealer the muffler is bad. That is except for the sound, which he can claim is standard? Hans. Steve Wilson wrote: > > There is a baffle inside your muffler that has broken loose. I should > not be leaking because of that. If you can live with the sound, just > tell people it has a VW motor. :-) If you want to replace it, take your > piggy bank to the dealer when you order it. :-( > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hans Geelen" > > > My PC800 '89 is making a sound a little bit like an old volkswagen. > Does > > this mean my exhaust leaks? > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:46:10 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Hans Geelen" , Subject: Re: PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:47:12 -0600 Go to this site http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and select "all" in the first blank and select "exhaust" in the second blank. Then click "show em". Print it out and take it to the dealer with you. That should do it. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hans Geelen" > > Is there an obvious way to prove to the dealer the muffler is bad. That > is except for the sound, which he can claim is standard? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 15:02:30 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: New pics.. Belgium member.. Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:04:33 +0100 Importance: Normal New pictures added on www.ipcrc.org of Marc's '94 PC. Marc's from Belgium and has just joined the list. Be sure to give him a warm welcome of course. As far as I know he's the first Belgian member. If only he would smile on his pictures ; ) Emile www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 18:19:43 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: hans.geelen@planet.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" <009d01c08d66$cf4d3ca0$f3c8b4d0@tcac.net> <3A7B3351.15F7E984@planet.nl> I just had mine replaced in the Fall of 2000 under my original Honda warranty when the same noise started to bug me. There was no problem getting Honda to foot the bill. I didn't even have to beg, so it must be a problem Honda is willing to acknowledge. I left the dealership after my 40,000 mile service and asked them to check with Honda about warranty service on it and by the time I arrived home, about 45 minutes, there was a message on my answering machine that Honda had OK'd the job and parts were on order. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" hans.geelen@planet.nl writes: >Steve, > >Thanks for the quick reply. Now that I know this I will tell the dealer >to fix the muffler. I just bought the PC a week ago, and I still have a >few month of warranty. So the piggy bank can be left home (I hope). > >Is there an obvious way to prove to the dealer the muffler is bad. That >is except for the sound, which he can claim is standard? > >Hans. > >Steve Wilson wrote: >> >> There is a baffle inside your muffler that has broken loose. I should >> not be leaking because of that. If you can live with the sound, just >> tell people it has a VW motor. :-) If you want to replace it, take your >> piggy bank to the dealer when you order it. :-( >> Steve Wilson Ruston LA. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hans Geelen" >> >> > My PC800 '89 is making a sound a little bit like an old volkswagen. >> Does >> > this mean my exhaust leaks? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com To: "PC800 Rider" , Cc: Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:30:35 -0500 Importance: Normal Can someone tell me more what the sound is? Is it like something is loose? Does it happen all the time or just sometimes. Once and a while I get a noise, its always at the same time, when the bike is in, and stopped but it is in gear, it will make it sound like a vibrartion, almost like a couple pennies are sliding inside a pie pan type noise. Thanks very much Chris -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of PC800 Rider Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:20 PM To: hans.geelen@planet.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound I just had mine replaced in the Fall of 2000 under my original Honda warranty when the same noise started to bug me. There was no problem getting Honda to foot the bill. I didn't even have to beg, so it must be a problem Honda is willing to acknowledge. I left the dealership after my 40,000 mile service and asked them to check with Honda about warranty service on it and by the time I arrived home, about 45 minutes, there was a message on my answering machine that Honda had OK'd the job and parts were on order. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" hans.geelen@planet.nl writes: >Steve, > >Thanks for the quick reply. Now that I know this I will tell the dealer >to fix the muffler. I just bought the PC a week ago, and I still have a >few month of warranty. So the piggy bank can be left home (I hope). > >Is there an obvious way to prove to the dealer the muffler is bad. That >is except for the sound, which he can claim is standard? > >Hans. > >Steve Wilson wrote: >> >> There is a baffle inside your muffler that has broken loose. I should >> not be leaking because of that. If you can live with the sound, just >> tell people it has a VW motor. :-) If you want to replace it, take your >> piggy bank to the dealer when you order it. :-( >> Steve Wilson Ruston LA. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hans Geelen" >> >> > My PC800 '89 is making a sound a little bit like an old volkswagen. >> Does >> > this mean my exhaust leaks? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:02:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:02:14 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Clothing To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have a 2 piece Roadmaster and wouldn't want the Darien. If I remember right, the Darien doesn't have the foam-backed armor that the Roadmaster has. If I'm going to go to the trouble of wearing the suit, I want maxi protection. The 2 piece also gives me the option to go pantless on the really hot days. A Darien plus pants would I think run about the same price as a 2 piece Roadmaster. Plus, the Roadmaster has more venting options I think. For what it's worth. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.102) with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 17:14:36 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:16:39 +0100 Importance: Normal >From: xcontrol@erols.com >Can someone tell me more what the sound is? You know how an old VW beetle sounds ? Well that's it.. Or imagine being chased by a bunch of horny crickets.. at first it's not that loud, but it gets louder (and for me became more irritating) with time. It's a high pitch alternating whistle sound..like a Beetle.. the more throttle you put on it, the more you will hear it.. I wonder if drilling one or more small holes in the muffler might solve the resonating of the loose baffles.. Emile www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:10:22 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brey House" To: Subject: PC800: HONDA PASSES HARLEY Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:09:03 -0600 Found this in Thurday's Milwaukee Journal; Honda passes Harley as top motorcycle seller Honda Motor Co. sales of motorcycle in the U.S.grew 35%last year,helping = the company pass Harley-Davidson Inc. to again become the top-selling = brand in the market. Honda sold 174,376 bikes in the U.S.in 2000 Harley = shipped 158,817 to U.S. dealers last year. Harley grabbed the = market-share lead in 1999 the first time in nearly 40 years that Honda = wasn't No 1. Jack [From the dark side] =20 Think Spring -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:22:06 EST Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: Emile@piloot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/2/01 5:16:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, Emile@Piloot.com writes: << Or imagine being chased by a bunch of horny crickets.. >> Hmmm..... Emile. I really cannot relate to that sound, as I have never been chased by any horny crickets. Tell me, did they catch you, and if so, what happened? ;-) Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 17:40:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:42:47 +0100 Importance: Normal >From: RVPC800@aol.com [mailto:RVPC800@aol.com] ><< Or imagine being chased by a > bunch of horny crickets.. >> >Hmmm..... Emile. I really cannot relate to that sound, >as I have never been chased by any horny crickets. >Russ Vernon I said I-M-A-G-I-N-E Russ... DUH ! Try wearing other after shave.. that might help.. Me, I'm such an handsome guy everybody and everything is attracted to me.. even with my ride along the Pacific Coast last september.. a whole bunch of them crickets following me, the entire week I was there.. I never saw 'm, only thing I saw when I looked back (even when standin' up on the pegs) were a bunch of PC's, but they ain't foolin' me, I know they were there, I could hear them real good ya know.. fortunately I keep outrunnin 'm.. : ) Bubba -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:24:22 EST Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: xcontrol@erols.com, yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us, hans.geelen@planet.nl CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Yep i have the same noise (vibration like washers or loose "marbles" in the mufler), its gets worse like when not in gear and jumped of the stand while the engine is running, which part of the exhaust has gone then? Laters -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: Sayer Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? To: List PC800 Today is the day I have been dreading for many weeks. I saw my PC-800 on a trailor as it drove away. So, I am no longer a Pacific Coast owner. :-( I just wanted to tell everyone on the list how great you have been over the few months that I participated. This list is an invaluable resource for PC-800 owners as well as a meeting place for wonderful people who share a special common interest. I truly enjoyed your responses to my original email about selling my PC-800. Yes, getting rid of the wife would be financially prudent, but ther are those other things that the PC-800 just can't fulfill in my life.... So, best of luck to all of you, and keep posting those pictures and stories of your PC-800 experiences. I will be visitng the list archives and your personal sites occasionally to get my PC-800 fix. One day I hope to be joining your ranks again under better circumstances. One of the hardest things for me to do was to remove the PC-800 "Discovery" from my email signature. Sayer ===== Sayer's music: http://mp3.com/sayer (Electronica, Trance & Techno) http://mp3.com/dreamquest ("Classic" Electronic Music) Sayer's studio: http://members.aol.com/sayersweb/ __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:35:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: Emile@Piloot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Time to tell the truth! Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:35:03 -0500

    >From: "Emile Nossin" 

     thing I saw when I looked back

     (even when standin' up on the pegs) were a bunch of PC's, but they ain't foolin' me, I know they were there, I could hear them real good ya know.. fortunately I keep outrunnin 'm.. : )

    ***********************
    wait..wait...wait...Emile..sorry to be the one to burst your bubble...but.........
    ,,,,,,alll of us on the ride decided as a group that since you  were the "outta towner""  and since you were probably not use to our riding customs here in North America...we thought it would be nice to LET YOU think you were able to keeep ahead of us!
    Sorry bud......
     
    your Canadian friend
     
     

    Greg Castle
    89 PC800
    "The Canuck"
    Keswick,Ontario,CANADA
    PCOR # 442

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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:04:00 -0500 Subject: Re(2): Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: HondaMotorbike@aol.com Cc: xcontrol@erols.com, hans.geelen@planet.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" HondaMotorbike@aol.com writes: >Yep i have the same noise (vibration like washers or loose "marbles" in the >mufler), its gets worse like when not in gear and jumped of the stand while >the engine is running, which part of the exhaust has gone then? > >Laters I didn't stay around while my dealer replaced mine so I did not see what parts were in the box. All they said was the muffler. It sounded to me as though it was in the muffler somewhere near the front end. I do know there were no internal parts that could be replace so it was about $500 US to do it, but Honda picked up the full cost. Mine never got to the point where I would describe the sound as "loose marbles", but it was more like a gentle chirping that got louder as time went on. If left unrepaired it might have developed into that sound though. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:51:43 -0400 (AST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:51:43 -0400 From: Daniel MacKay Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: volkswagen sound Tim writes: > I didn't stay around while my dealer replaced mine so I did not see what parts > were in the box. I've replaced three, two on an '89 and one on my '96, all because they rusted through. I get about 5 years per muffler in this climate. Two, I think, were chirping. The muffer r&r is about a 3-hour job if you've done it once. Don't forget 2 new collar-like gaskets, 2 bands, and 4 band bolts because you'll destroy the old ones with your 6-point socket and cold chisel taking them off. Taking off the upper and lower side covers (AND maint ducts AND rollbar covers AND saddle) saves time in the end. -- Daniel MacKay Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:22:26 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? To: sayerseely@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/2/01 6:33:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, sayerseely@yahoo.com writes: << One of the hardest things for me to do was to remove the PC-800 "Discovery" from my email signature. >> I feel for you, Sayer. I almost sold my beloved PC a few months ago, simply because I bought another bike! What was I thinking? It was akin to giving up your first born to adoption because your wife just gave birth to a new baby! Shame on me! I plan on keeping it forever now. Any I truly hope that you can "discover" yourself another Pacific Coast soon. Virginity, like a Dunhill lighter, are never recovered once they are lost. This need not be the case with the Best Little Honda Ever Made. I hope that it is not for you. Russ Vernon 95 PC800 00 R1100RT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:26:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:26:17 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/2/2001 9:33:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, sayerseely@yahoo.com writes: > > I truly enjoyed your responses to my original email about selling my PC-800. > Yes, getting rid of the wife would be financially prudent, but there are > those > other things that the PC-800 just can't fulfill in my life.... > > I'm convinced now... I'm staying single! I'll just have to take care of a few things on my own! ; ) Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vrenios@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:53:38 +0000 To: JeffHamltn@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clothing Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 06:53:38 +0000 My Darien Light has the back pad because I paid an extra $60 for it - it velcros right in. (Or it can be sewn in if you so desire.) The jacket has a long vent zipper across the back (under the reflective strip) and a short vent under each arm pit. The sleeve cufs are each zippered for further control. This is a great jacket for hot summer riding here in Phoenix. I zip it shut and where a sweater under it in the winter months. (The "light" doesn't have a liner, but it can be added, making it (I think) the full Darien style jacket. (I don't see any reason to buy one because I believe my sweater is just as good and it's already here:) I believe I can buy matching pants that will zip in, giving me the same protection as a whole suit. If I were still in the Chicago area I would probably have gotten the whole suit, but here I want and need the flexibility of thin, vented jacket, an added liner, and a protective pair of pants as well. This is high quality stuff no matter how you pull it on. -- Alex Vrenios vrenios@att.net http://vrenios.home.att.net > I have a 2 piece Roadmaster and wouldn't want the Darien. > If I remember right, the Darien doesn't have the foam-backed > armor that the Roadmaster has. If I'm going to go to the trouble > of wearing the suit, I want maxi protection. The 2 piece also > gives me the option to go pantless on the really hot days. > A Darien plus pants would I think run about the same price > as a 2 piece Roadmaster. Plus, the Roadmaster has more > venting options I think. > For what it's worth. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Clothing Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:58:28 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- > of wearing the suit, I want maxi protection. The 2 piece also > gives me the option to go pantless on the really hot days. > A Darien plus pants would I think run about the same price > First we have a guy working on his bike in the garage pantless, now we have a rider on his PC going pantless while riding, what is going on here. First your worried about not enough protection, then it's down to the birthday suit. Is this all because of that story Emile told us about topless women on that navy ship. Really we have nothing to prove here. Plus, this time of the year think of the wind chill factor and shrinkage. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" , Subject: PC800: Your PC800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 01:11:51 -0800 Hi Marc, Welcome to the ipcrc group. I saw the pictures of your PC, but I would like to see more. Could you please post more pictures of how you did your backrest & radio installation. I realized being from Belgium riders in the USA might not be able to use the same radio set up, but it gives the ideal of new possibilities. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Clothing Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 03:46:41 -0600 Ya know, we Texans don't have to worry about shrinkage. -----Original Message----- > Plus, this time of >the year think of the wind chill factor and shrinkage. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 02:42:11 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Time to tell the truth! Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:44:06 +0100 Importance: Normal Ah.. roger that.. I wondered why all you guys were going so incredibly slooowwww.... next time get some more hamsters in that trunk and skip the politeness, okay ? Outtahere -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Greg Castle Sent: zaterdag 3 februari 2001 3:35 To: Emile@Piloot.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Time to tell the truth! >From: "Emile Nossin" thing I saw when I looked back (even when standin' up on the pegs) were a bunch of PC's, but they ain't foolin' me, I know they were there, I could hear them real good ya know.. fortunately I keep outrunnin 'm.. : ) *********************** wait..wait...wait...Emile..sorry to be the one to burst your bubble...but......... ,,,,,,alll of us on the ride decided as a group that since you were the "outta towner"" and since you were probably not use to our riding customs here in North America...we thought it would be nice to LET YOU think you were able to keeep ahead of us! Sorry bud...... your Canadian friend Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.
     
     

    Greg Castle
    89 PC800
    "The Canuck" =
    Keswick,Ontario,CANADA=20
    PCOR # 442

    Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To = unsubscribe=20 from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to=20 majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to = pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Sat, 3 Feb 2001 04:48:12 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Wakefield, Steve L." , Subject: Re: PC800: Clothing Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:48:08 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." > Ya know, we Texans don't have to worry about shrinkage. "Cause some things just can't get any smaller...;-D Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:41:42 -0800 the Best Little Honda Ever Made. ahhhhh. Perhaps there is the seed of an acronym here...an inside joke... L7ee 95 "Secondo con Brio" 51 Cushman (for sale in Oregon) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:47:25 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 07:46:23 -0800 To: "Great Ned" , , , From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? Are you calling the PC800 a BLHEM? Sounds too close to BLEM, like a blem tire. I think I would stay away from that one. Sure am glad a current PC800 owner said that! ;-) Jim Alexander At 07:41 AM 02/03/2001, Great Ned wrote: > > >the Best Little Honda Ever Made. > >ahhhhh. Perhaps there is the seed of an acronym here...an inside joke... > >L7ee >95 "Secondo con Brio" >51 Cushman (for sale in Oregon) > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , , , "Jim Alexander" Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:38:21 -0800 And I don't much cotton to the "little" in there. Most Amazing Thing Created by Honda Least Everyone Says So. Lee ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Great Ned" ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? > Are you calling the PC800 a BLHEM? Sounds too close to BLEM, like a blem > tire. I think I would stay away from that one. Sure am glad a current > PC800 owner said that! ;-) > > Jim Alexander > > > At 07:41 AM 02/03/2001, Great Ned wrote: > > > > > >the Best Little Honda Ever Made. > > > >ahhhhh. Perhaps there is the seed of an acronym here...an inside joke... > > > >L7ee > >95 "Secondo con Brio" > >51 Cushman (for sale in Oregon) > > > > > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 17:44:59 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 11:51:27 -0600 From: "Rick Corwine" To: "Great Ned" Cc: RVPC800@aol.com, sayerseely@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, " Jim Alexander" Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? MATCHLESS..... Much better than a BLHEM of any sort. Ride swift, ride safe Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" Great Ned wrote: > > And I don't much cotton to the "little" in there. > > Most Amazing Thing Created by Honda Least Everyone Says So. > > Lee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Alexander" > To: "Great Ned" ; ; > ; > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in > Washington DC area? > > > Are you calling the PC800 a BLHEM? Sounds too close to BLEM, like a blem > > tire. I think I would stay away from that one. Sure am glad a current > > PC800 owner said that! ;-) > > > > Jim Alexander > > > > > > At 07:41 AM 02/03/2001, Great Ned wrote: > > > > > > > > >the Best Little Honda Ever Made. > > > > > >ahhhhh. Perhaps there is the seed of an acronym here...an inside joke... > > > > > >L7ee > > >95 "Secondo con Brio" > > >51 Cushman (for sale in Oregon) > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:58:39 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? To: greatned@quik.com, RVPC800@aol.com, sayerseely@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, jamesalexander@compuserve.com In a message dated 2/3/01 9:28:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, greatned@quik.com writes: << And I don't much cotton to the "little" in there. >> OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK! SVELTE! That better???? ;-0 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Feb 2001 23:23:51 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "marc vanhaelewyn" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:23:26 +0100 new picture of marc vanhaelewyn's pc800 at iprc -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Feb 2001 23:39:19 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "marc vanhaelewyn" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: radio in fairng pocket Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:39:28 +0100 hello Will, In answer to your question ,right now I cannot send you detailed = pictures on the items you ask for since the pictures you saw were taken by a friend = of mine... I'll ask him to bring the equipment again with him .. I can however explain some things about my work. The radio is an old AM/FM SANYO (there is no modelnr on the front) = which is certainly 10 years old ,I used this one because of its small size . I = had to remove the underside of the fairing pocket ,and one tiny small edge = of the underside of the radio ,also two small pieces of the plastic = frontside of the radio and then it slipped nicely in..since the output power was = not large enough(I ccouldn't hear it well above 40 mph ) I added a powerampliflier which is mounted slightly to the front and a bit deeper = in the"carinage". The antenna is also located in this space inside behind the light an is approx. 55cm long and also invisible ,same as the radio ,when the fairng pocket is closed. there is a small switch placed on the dash to switch the set on or = off.(it is slightly visible if you correct the enclosed jpg with some more lightness,it is in the upper part of the place of the right speaker and chrome-coloured) concerning the backrest.. It is a simple grey-leather "bag" filled up with a kind of foam, and = mounted with velcro at the backside,and with two leatherstrings into the = trunk..so when I open the trunk it also goes up. sorry if my English is not allways 100% ,but if there are things that = are not clear...,give me a sign.. bey...bey Marc from Belgium ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" ; Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: Your PC800 > Hi Marc, > Welcome to the ipcrc group. I saw the pictures of your PC, but I would like > to see more. Could you please post more pictures of how you did your > backrest & radio installation. I realized being from Belgium riders = in the > USA might not be able to use the same radio set up, but it gives the = ideal > of new possibilities. since the=20 pictures you saw were taken by a friend of
    mine...
    I'll ask him to = bring=20 the equipment again with him ..
    I can however explain some things = about my=20 work.
    The radio is an old  AM/FM  SANYO (there is no = modelnr on the=20 front)  which
    is certainly 10 years old ,I used this one because = of its=20 small size . I had
    to remove the underside of the fairing pocket ,and = one=20 tiny small edge of
    the underside of the radio ,also two small pieces = of the=20 plastic frontside
    of the radio and then it slipped nicely in..since = the=20 output power was not
    large enough(I ccouldn't hear it well above 40 = mph ) I=20 added a
    powerampliflier which is mounted slightly to the front and a = bit=20 deeper  in
    the"carinage".
    The antenna is also located in this = space=20 inside behind the light an is
    approx. 55cm long and also invisible = ,same as=20 the radio ,when the fairng
    pocket is closed.
    there is a small = switch =20 placed on the dash to switch the set on or off.(it
    is slightly = visible if you=20 correct the enclosed jpg with some more
    lightness,it is in the upper = part of=20 the place of the right speaker and
    chrome-coloured)
    concerning the = backrest..
    It is a simple grey-leather "bag" filled up with a kind of = foam,=20 and mounted
    with  velcro at the backside,and with two =20 leatherstrings into the trunk..so
    when I open the trunk it also goes=20 up.
    sorry if my English is not allways 100% ,but if there are things = that=20 are
    not clear...,give me a sign..
    bey...bey
    Marc from = Belgium
    -----=20 Original Message -----
    From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
    To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; <marc.vanhaelewyn@pandora.be>
    Sent:=20 Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:11 AM
    Subject: Your = PC800


    > Hi=20 Marc,
    > Welcome to the ipcrc group. I saw the pictures of your PC, = but I=20 would
    like
    > to see more. Could you please post more pictures = of how=20 you did your
    > backrest & radio installation.  I realized = being=20 from Belgium riders in
    the
    > USA might not be able to use the = same=20 radio set up, but it gives the ideal
    > of new=20 possibilities.
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:07:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:07:09 EST Subject: PC800: DC Area Ride! 2/4/2001 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Anyone interested.... Please join Christopher Russell-Wood and myself for a ride to Natural Bridge, VA. Check out the website at http://www.naturalbridgeva.com/ We will meet at the Manassas, VA Cracker Barrel Restaurant just north of Route 66 and Business 234. This the same exit to get to the Manassas Civil War Battlefield. We plan on leaving Cracker Barrel at 10:00am and will be heading south!! So if you want a quick bite to eat, show up a little bit earlier! This Cracker Barrel does get crowded quickly on Sunday Mornings. Planned route is 28 South, then 29 South, then 230 west to 33 west and finally 11 South to Natural Bridge. Distance one way is about 170 miles. Come one come all! Just let us know if you'll be able to make it so we can count you in! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 19:40:17 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Bob Patterson Subject: PC800: pc/sale/cleveland/show Hi All, While at the Cycle World show in Cleveland today I observed a crowd around a 1998 PC800. It was for sale by State 8 motorcycles, a dealer near Cleveland, for $5995, a special sale price so they said. It only had 4200 miles on it and it looked it. It also had a Corbin seat that was very nice. You can see some details at their website: http://www.state8.com/vehicledetail.cfm?Item=185 Do any PC owners have a Corbin seat? What do you think about? How much do they cost? Don't know if I could replace black with red but sure did like the front fender and Corbin seat...uhmmm... nah. Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:04:35 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: pc/sale/cleveland/show To: bpatt@raex.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" bpatt@raex.com writes: > >Don't know if I could replace black with red but sure did like the front >fender and Corbin seat...uhmmm... nah. > >Bob I have a Corbin seat and I love it. It ties with my electronic cruise control as the best thing I ever bought for my motorcycle. After 35 years of riding this is the first seat the I can go the distance on and not be in pain at the end of the day and the start of the next one. Mine cost me $375, but I hear Corbin has jacked them up to $499 now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GWLyman@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:09:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:09:21 EST Subject: PC800: Glue Needed To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey all.. Several days ago I read about some Tupperware glue that works great. Well Like a dummy I saved it to my filing cabinet and now the stupid cabinet= =20 will not give it up... Can someone help me and give me the web site where to order??? =A0=A0 It was about $29.00 Thanks=20 Gary Lyman -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: Subject: PC800: stuff on ebay--PC no less Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:08:36 -0800 Two items currently-- factory manual=20 parts fiche for 89 - 90 Search "Honda Pacific Coast" I am in no way connected to the auctions, just stumbled on 'em. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Corbin seat - was: pc/sale/cleveland/show Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:47:51 -0600 > Mine cost me $375, but I hear Corbin has jacked them up to $499 now. Yes, they have. However, Corbin's price increase makes the "made for you" Russell Day-Long seat an even better bargain... (at $425.00-$495.00). See www.day-long.com However, the wait for a Russell is a minimum 6 months. Everything I've heard, however, makes it well worth the wait. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: pc/sale/cleveland/show > bpatt@raex.com writes: > > > >Don't know if I could replace black with red but sure did like the front > >fender and Corbin seat...uhmmm... nah. > > > >Bob > > I have a Corbin seat and I love it. It ties with my electronic cruise control > as the best thing I ever bought for my motorcycle. After 35 years of riding > this is the first seat the I can go the distance on and not be in pain at the > end of the day and the start of the next one. > > Mine cost me $375, but I hear Corbin has jacked them up to $499 now. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > IPCRC #4 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:34:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ben Crisologo" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gassing Up Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 03:34:27 Does anyone know why some gas pumps "refuse" to turn on when filling gas in your tank? I have difficulties filling up sometimes and cannot make the pump to work. I suspect it has something to do with the nozzle having to go all the way in (I have tried every which way) or I must be getting senile! Ben 95 PC800 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:36:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:36:14 EST Subject: PC800: Not PC related To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu For an interesting slant on the news and for information on off shore banking "for the rest of us" go to http://www.private-offshore.educations.net/ Bernie 94 PC 73K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:32:36 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Chicago Show restaurant Hello everyone, and more specifically those of you that are attending the motorcycle show in Chicago this coming weekend. I was unable to return to the Rosemont Convention Centre area last week to scope out other restaurants in the area, and I am currently in Ottawa. On Sunday night I will be flying back into O'Scare and will stop by the area to check it out again. I am pretty sure that a nice reasonable restaurant will not be very walk able, but will be reachable by short drive. Stay posted for more news no later than Monday. Ride safe. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:29:02 EST Subject: Re: PC800: stuff on ebay--PC no less To: greatned@quik.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/3/01 5:58:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, greatned@quik.com writes: << I am in no way connected to the auctions, just stumbled on 'em. >> Ah, Lee! What have your grandchildren told you about going about without your cane? One of these days, you may find yourself having to give up bingo if you keep these shenanigans up! Now you keep clipping those coupons from AARP magazine and don't forget your cane (or is it a walker by now?)! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Great Ned" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: stuff on ebay--PC no less Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:43:04 -0500 Don't bid more than a few dollars for the fiche. They are available from your local Honda dealer. -eddie (A nasty rumour has it that I once bid $15 for a Transalp fiche that cost about 1/2 that. ) Two items currently-- factory manual parts fiche for 89 - 90 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Ben Crisologo" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:47:05 -0500 Ben, I've had difficulty with some of the vapor recovery equipped nozzles at one time or another. I had to compress the rubber boot on the nozzle with one hand and work the lever with the other. (The PC tank didn't allow the pumphandle into the filler neck far enough to accomplish this on it's own.) Naturally, I got a nice stale gasoline smell on my hands from this. (yuck) -eddie -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ben Crisologo To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: PC800: Gassing Up >Does anyone know why some gas pumps "refuse" to turn on when filling gas in >your tank? I have difficulties filling up sometimes and cannot make the >pump to work. I suspect it has something to do with the nozzle having to go >all the way in (I have tried every which way) or I must be getting senile! > >Ben >95 PC800 >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:41:10 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up To: bcrisologo@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" bcrisologo@hotmail.com writes: >Does anyone know why some gas pumps "refuse" to turn on when filling gas in >your tank? I have difficulties filling up sometimes and cannot make the >pump to work. I suspect it has something to do with the nozzle having to go >all the way in (I have tried every which way) or I must be getting senile! > >Ben >95 PC800 Do you live in a state that has one of those crazy gas vapor capture boots over the gas nozzle? I can't remember which state is was last summer, but I had to use one hand to retract that stupid thing while I pumped the gas with the other. The pump would not start witout me retracting the boot far enough and pressing on the gas filler opening wasnot enough. I was also impossible for me to see how close to the top of my tank the level was without pulling out the nozzle frequently. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:21:10 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up To: PC800 Rider , bcrisologo@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Tim, That would be my "state" the Commonwealth of Massachusetts... It's a pain in the kiester! I can't remember which state is was > last summer, but I had to > use one hand to retract that stupid thing while I > pumped the gas with the > other. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "marc vanhaelewyn" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: radio in fairng pocket Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:05:19 -0800 Thanks for the information, you explained it very well. I had thought = about doing something like that (radio install) but just couldn't cut up = the fairing pocket. I guess that would be the only way. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message -----=20 From: marc vanhaelewyn=20 To: pc800=20 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: PC800: radio in fairng pocket hello Will, In answer to your question ,right now I cannot send you detailed = pictures on the items you ask for since the pictures you saw were taken by a = friend of mine... I'll ask him to bring the equipment again with him .. I can however explain some things about my work. The radio is an old AM/FM SANYO (there is no modelnr on the front) = which is certainly 10 years old ,I used this one because of its small size . = I had to remove the underside of the fairing pocket ,and one tiny small edge = of the underside of the radio ,also two small pieces of the plastic = frontside of the radio and then it slipped nicely in..since the output power was = not large enough(I ccouldn't hear it well above 40 mph ) I added a powerampliflier which is mounted slightly to the front and a bit = deeper in the"carinage". The antenna is also located in this space inside behind the light an = is approx. 55cm long and also invisible ,same as the radio ,when the = fairng pocket is closed. there is a small switch placed on the dash to switch the set on or = off.(it is slightly visible if you correct the enclosed jpg with some more lightness,it is in the upper part of the place of the right speaker = and chrome-coloured) concerning the backrest.. It is a simple grey-leather "bag" filled up with a kind of foam, and = mounted with velcro at the backside,and with two leatherstrings into the = trunk..so when I open the trunk it also goes up. sorry if my English is not allways 100% ,but if there are things that = are not clear...,give me a sign.. bey...bey Marc from Belgium since the=20 pictures you saw were taken by a friend of
    mine...
    I'll ask him = to bring=20 the equipment again with him ..
    I can however explain some things = about my=20 work.
    The radio is an old  AM/FM  SANYO (there is no = modelnr on=20 the front)  which
    is certainly 10 years old ,I used this one = because=20 of its small size . I had
    to remove the underside of the fairing = pocket=20 ,and one tiny small edge of
    the underside of the radio ,also two = small=20 pieces of the plastic frontside
    of the radio and then it slipped = nicely=20 in..since the output power was not
    large enough(I ccouldn't hear it = well=20 above 40 mph ) I added a
    powerampliflier which is mounted slightly = to the=20 front and a bit deeper  in
    the"carinage".
    The antenna is = also=20 located in this space inside behind the light an is
    approx. 55cm = long and=20 also invisible ,same as the radio ,when the fairng
    pocket is=20 closed.
    there is a small switch  placed on the dash to switch = the set=20 on or off.(it
    is slightly visible if you correct the enclosed jpg = with some=20 more
    lightness,it is in the upper part of the place of the right = speaker=20 and
    chrome-coloured)
    concerning the backrest..
    It is a simple = grey-leather "bag" filled up with a kind of foam, and = mounted
    with =20 velcro at the backside,and with two  leatherstrings into the=20 trunk..so
    when I open the trunk it also goes up.
    sorry if my = English is=20 not allways 100% ,but if there are things that are
    not = clear...,give me a=20 sign..
    bey...bey
    Marc from=20 Belgium
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Rain Riding, GPS, and Insurance forms Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:36:30 -0800 We have some new riders, and by chance this month's Sound Rider Motorcycle site has some articles that might benefit some. It can be viewed at: http://www.soundrider.com Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: 94 PC for sale Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:58:27 -0800 A Honda dealer in Olympia has a 94 PC for sale, price $4495.00 (US). Can be viewed at: http://www.hondabike.com/mainstreet.html usual disclaimers, I know nothing about the dealer or bike. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:50:53 -0800 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners , pacificcoast@yahoogroups.com Subject: PC800: '98 PC serial numbers Hi Coasters and Y2Kers, If anyone with a 1998 model PC will email me their VIN numbers (off list, please), I will post the highest California (RC341) and non-California (RC340) models on the serial number list. I have not been able to find figures for the 1998 models produced anywhere. We have the figures for all the other years from the microfiche. Thanks. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 156000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 34000 miles PCRC #72 PC800 Owner's Registry: http://www.pc800registry.org Mother of all PC800 Web Site Lists: http://www.pc800links.net 2001 PC800 Pacific Coast Ride: http://www.pcpch.org Complete PC800 Parts List: http://www.pc800parts.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: PC800: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu My 95 PC started leaking oil a couple of months ago. Just a few drops every night, not enough to spend the US $800 that the dealer wanted (even the mechanic said it wasn't serious enough to do it at this time). Anyway, today I received the new Barnett clutch that I plan to have install next week. I have read that the time to change to synthetic oil is when you have the clutch replaced, but I also seem to recall that if you have an oil leak it's better to stick to non-synthetic oils, so my question is this: Should I change to synthetic oil despite the oil leak or will I be better off continuing with regular oil?. I have used Spectrum 10-40 for the past 50K without any problems (except the occasional clutch slip that I attribute to weak springs). Thank you for your input. Jesus Soriano, '95 PC "Raquel" San Diego, California. __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:29:37 -0600 From: William Drake To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, virago920rider@aol.com, fschryner@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago Show restaurant Francois, don't go out of the way. One idea is to go to the other side of ohare into the Addison area (I located Famous Dave's BBQ there and also Dave & busters. This would be a cruise from Rosemont, but might be more financially friendly than the Rosemont area. Let me know your thoughts Contrary to the previous email I am not cheap but extremely frugal lol! the cheaper the better Bill Drake Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Hello everyone, and more specifically those of you that are attending > the motorcycle show in Chicago this coming weekend. > > I was unable to return to the Rosemont Convention Centre area last > week to scope out other restaurants in the area, and I am currently > in Ottawa. On Sunday night I will be flying back into O'Scare and > will stop by the area to check it out again. I am pretty sure that a > nice reasonable restaurant will not be very walk able, but will be > reachable by short drive. > > Stay posted for more news no later than Monday. > > Ride safe. > > fsl > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JACKKPTS@aol.com for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:52:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:52:43 EST Subject: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello PC Gang, For Xmas I received a service manual for my PC, which is a '90. I was planning on changing all of the fluids this spring - oil/filter, brake, clutch, final drive and coolant. I was going through the manual last night and and fairly ticked off. There are no instructions on how to change any of these fluids except coolant!!!!! What kind of manual is this??? My old Haynes manual for my Yamaha had instructions of how do all of these. I do have the oil/filter instructions and final drive in the owners manual. Its the brake and clutch fluid I am concerned about. Any one have instructions and/or diagrams for this important service? Thanks! Jack Kamoske '90 PC - Cool Runnings Sussex, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:14:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 11:10:49 -0600 Subject: PC800: Top Boxes To: PC 800 list Reply-to: ccaronna@swbell.net This has probably been a topic on the list before but I hope you will indulge me and any other people who got on the list after the topic was discussed. Anyway, I have purchased a SR10 rack and am awaiting its delivery. I am looking at a GiVi 460, an E52, and some inexpensive boxes I have seen at J. C. Whitney. There is no one locally that carries them in stock so it is hard to tell from the GiVi web page what they will look like on my PC. The colors candy apple red and bright red may or may not match my '98 color. Who can tell from the web site? Anyway, has anyone bought the inexpensive boxes from J C Whitney? Any comments on color? The size of either the 460 or the E52 is similar but I do not want the shape to distract from the PC's fine lines. I also wondered if the black color (which is cheaper than the colored even with the tail light kit) would be similar to the seat color and therefore look fine? Enough question for you guys? Thanks for any help, Chris in Corpus '98 PC " Red Tide" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vrenios@att.net by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:18:54 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800 Motorcycle) Subject: PC800: New Backrest: Lesson Learned Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:18:53 +0000 All, For those of you, like me, who just got a new PC800 backrest (black, for the 1998) please note Figure 4 in the directions. The 6x12mm flathead cross-point screws hold the hand rails to the new backrest brace. They DO NOT go through the holes in the rear seat. The original screws that these replace, that came out of those holes, held the hand rails to the seat. One might be tempted to assume that the new ones might hold the seat, the new brace, and the hand rails together, but they do not! The new screws have too small a head and will go right through the seat hole. The original screws are too short to get to the hand rails through the braces. If you go to Home Depot and buy 6x20mm screws and some washers, for 85 cents, you will wrestle with that setup for over an hour before it comes together. Installing the back pad will complete a really good upper body workout. Once I realized my mistake, I took it all apart and had it back together in only a few minutes with the new parts that came with it. Please don't waste your time like I did. Good luck. Nice seat, by the way. -- Alex Vrenios vrenios@att.net http://vrenios.home.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 11:45:39 -0600 From: Keith Wood To: William Drake CC: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, virago920rider@aol.com, fschryner@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago Show restaurant I highly recommend Daves Famous B BQ. Exceptional taste, large portions, and friendly on the pocket. Dave and Busters is worth a visit as well. Not only can you eat, you can indulge in alcoholic beverages and games of all types, to include billiards and shuffle board. Dave is more expensive but lots more fun. Keith Lombard William Drake wrote: > Francois, > > don't go out of the way. One idea is to go to the other side of ohare > into the Addison area (I located Famous Dave's BBQ there and also Dave > & busters. This would be a cruise from Rosemont, but might be more > financially friendly than the Rosemont area. Let me know your thoughts > > Contrary to the previous email I am not cheap but extremely frugal lol! > the cheaper the better > > Bill Drake > > Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, and more specifically those of you that are attending > > the motorcycle show in Chicago this coming weekend. > > > > I was unable to return to the Rosemont Convention Centre area last > > week to scope out other restaurants in the area, and I am currently > > in Ottawa. On Sunday night I will be flying back into O'Scare and > > will stop by the area to check it out again. I am pretty sure that a > > nice reasonable restaurant will not be very walk able, but will be > > reachable by short drive. > > > > Stay posted for more news no later than Monday. > > > > Ride safe. > > > > fsl > > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:15:36 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "George Hilsinger" To: JACKKPTS@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:15:36 -0800 >From: JACKKPTS@aol.com >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:52:43 EST > >Hello PC Gang, >For Xmas I received a service manual for my PC, which is a '90. I was >planning on changing all of the fluids this spring - oil/filter, brake, >clutch, final drive and coolant. I was going through the manual last night >and and fairly ticked off. There are no instructions on how to change any >of >these fluids except coolant!!!!! What kind of manual is this??? Hi Jack, I seem to recall that Honda has a basic manual that covers services that are common to most Honda motorcycles. Hydraulic brakes and clutches fall into this category. George Hilsinger 97 PC800 Gypsy Yakima, WA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:52:10 -0800 . There are no instructions on how to change any of > these fluids except coolant!!!!! What kind of manual is this??? My old > Haynes manual for my Yamaha had instructions of how do all of these. > Jack, at the risk of a cliche, I share your pain. I have a new one of those pumps, the $40 kind, which I intend to use. Haven't ever, so I figure I have to have my planets properly aligned when I do it. I think all hydraulic changes are the same: replace the fluid by taking from the bottom and adding new to the top and don't add any bubbles. And don't DON'T get any on the plastic. I think it is a two person job, with both being interested in the outcome. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:45:38 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tteulon" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: Subject: RE: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:44:54 -0600 Importance: Normal Jack, What you have is half of the Service Manual for the Honda PC-800. You will notice that the Honda Common Service Manual is referred to often. All the information that you are looking for is in this manual and it is available either through your Honda dealer or online. I can't remember where it was that I got mine, but I can look it up for you if you are interested in pursuing it. I think it costs about $30.00. As far as the brake and clutch fluid is concerned, it is quite a simple process and help it available on a number of sites. There are also numerous techniques that you can employ to do it. I personally use a Mighty Vac Vacuum pump and a big syringe to drain the reservoir, and although I removed all the plastic around the handlebars this last time, would probable forgo it the next time around and just rim the reservoir with plastic to catch any potential drips. One needs to take care not to spill any brake fluid on the plastic as it will wreck it. I saw one of the brake bleeder deals that you place on the nipple, it sounds like a great idea. I think they are about $15.00 or so, however, you may want to consider the Mighty Vac, it has many other uses as well and I bought mine for $30.00 at O'Reilly's Autoparts. If you want to do it without any vacs or things, you need to get another set of hands. One to pump the handle and another to worj the wrench. First drain the reservoir as best you can. Place a tube over the drain nipple on the bottom to allow the fluid to drain into a jar. Refill the reservoir with fresh brake fluid and have someone pumping up top while you open the nipple to allow fluid to pass. The trick is top maintain positive flow so that you don't allow any air into the system. If you do, you have to start all over again. It is easy to get messed up in your timing and that is why I chose to purchase the Mighty Vac. I might have gone with the brake bleeder deals if I had known about them earlier but now that I have a Vacuum, it is so handy with other things I feel that it is worth the $30.00 easily. (By the way, the Mighty Vac comes with complete instructions for bleeding all types of brakes and is very complete with almost every attachment you could imagine. Let me know if you need more info. Todd Teulon South Texas "Zeniac" 1997 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Honda PC Service Manual Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:04:46 -0800 . (By the way, > the Mighty Vac comes with complete instructions for bleeding all types of > brakes and is very complete with almost every attachment you could imagine. > Well, Todd, there go the pheromones. Now I gotta read the instructions first. I'll just have to be open to other ways I can show my manliness. Maybe I'll just go hang out in the plumbing section at the local hardware store and answer a few questions. If I wear a tape measure, people think I work there. Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:00:48 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago Show restaurant To: pc800rider@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/4/01 10:30:51 AM Central Standard Time, pc800rider@mediaone.net writes: > I located Famous Dave's BBQ there > > I am in favor of Famous Dave's!!! The Starved Rock Rider's will agree with me on this one. Some of us meet there the night before the ride. All were happy and full! I must confess....Jim & I went back for lunch the next day! Great suggestion Bill. Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:33:31 EST Subject: Re: PC800: New Backrest: Lesson Learned To: vrenios@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi What date is on your Backrest installation guide, and would you be able to scan it and post it somewhere so we can all see the installation guide (i have a DEC 98 version). Laters -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id ADC43747003E; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:55:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: I Bought My First PC800 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:08:06 -0800 Importance: Normal Yes That's right I got that 89 Pacific Coast that Arvid Lřvik [alvik@chello.no]was so kind as to piont out the ad on. It is in great shape except for some scratches. It has new tires and battery and get this the original Manual with several motocycle atricles that have been kept in plastic about the 89 PC, which I will try and post later. This will be my first web site attempt so bear with me. Best of all it has only 2800 miles on it ---The last 400 I put on riding it back from San Fransisco to Los Angeles-- Wow AWESOME is all I can say Now I know why You all love this bike so much (-: Oh Yeah you are gonna hate me for this... How much did I pay you ask.... Take a guess I let you all wonder for a while.... So watch for more as I already have a bunch of questions to ask. D.J.. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id AF313DA30040; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 15:01:05 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Hondaline Backrest 4-sale Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:14:10 -0800 Importance: Normal I bought this backrest last week before I bought my bike... being that they seem to be so hard to come by. Anyway the 89PC I bought has a Factory Backrest on it. so I am selling this Black Hondaline Backrest. Make an offer it is in good shape with a couple of scratches on the left side metal arm... easily painted .... Priority will be given to those who can pay via paypal thanks D.J. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Service Manual Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:26:49 -0500 Honda Common Service Manual: Part #61CM001 About $40-45. It's a terrific book! -eddie PS: Clutch fluid replacement? You can do it yourself (one person) easily. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Drool Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:32:08 -0500 I pulled the right side radiator vent this afternoon and noticedc a small drool of oil had appeared on the forward cylinder. It looks as though it is very slight but, has been there some time (oil nice and cooked/dirty). Is this the sign of the dreaded cam plug leak I have heard about? I won't go pulling bits and pices until it gets worse....tomorrow....next week....next year? -eddie PS: Did you know that by reading all your email at once, you can effectively splatter beef stew all on the inside of a microwave oven (that I kinda ignored) ??? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:44:08 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "D.J." , "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: I Bought My First PC800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:42:53 +0100 ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: "PC800" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: PC800: I Bought My First PC800 Yes That's right I got that 89 Pacific Coast that Arvid L=F8vik [alvik@chello.no]was so kind as to piont out the ad on. It is in great = shape except for some scratches. It has new tires and battery and get this = the original Manual with several motocycle atricles that have been kept in plastic about the 89 PC, which I will try and post later. This will = be my first web site attempt so bear with me. Best of all it has only 2800 miles on it ---The last 400 I put on riding it back from San Fransisco = to Los Angeles-- Wow AWESOME is all I can say Now I know why You all = love this bike so much (-: Oh Yeah you are gonna hate me for this... How = much did I pay you ask.... Take a guess I let you all wonder for a = while.... So watch for more as I already have a bunch of questions to ask. D.J.. Congratulations !!!! If the bike had been available and I had known about it in July when I = was in San Francisco, YOU wouldn't have it now ;-) Glad that it was one of the listers that got hold of it though ! What a buy !!! Enjoy it for the next 30 years !! Regards Arvid Btw. Anyone in Europe looking for a cheap 90 ,reg. 92, 29500 miles, = asking 6600 DM (that's US $ 3200, for you)?? I know of one available in = Germany ! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:07:19 EST Subject: PC800: Texas Hill Country Ride Preliminary Trip Report To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dunn@legerity.com, tteulon@usaonline.net Since a few of us have been thinking and planning a ride next Saturday (Feb 10) afternoon, I made a preliminary run and checked the route I would like to take. I had mentioned to Todd that it would take about 4 hours. Actually we are looking more at 5 hours, and then only taking a few short breaks. It was a great ride though, and I am looking forward to doing it with a group next week. I left Lackland Park and Ride and took Hwy 90 access road to I-410 to Bandera Road (Hwy 16). I followed Hwy 16 to Bandera. Made a right turn at the intersection of Hwy 16/173. A little way out of town I made a left turn onto 470. Followed it for several miles to the intersection of 187 and proceeded to Lost Maples. The best time to go there is when the leaves are turning, but it is a pretty place anytime. Coming back out to the park I made a right turn back down 187 to Hwy 337 toward Leakey. That is probably the best part of the ride. Lots of nice curves, some pretty tight, but good road all the way. A lot of the sport bike types run that road on the weekend. At the point where I could have just simply turned around and gone back, but having a bit of a spirit of adventure I tried something different. I turned left onto Hwy 83 a short distance and then turned left onto 1050. That turned out to also be a really nice road. It seemed to be "out in the middle of nowhere", but a nice diversion that would take me back to 187 near Utopia and then back to 470 and backtracking into Bandera. Today it actually took me longer than 5 hours, but my estimate should be pretty accurate. At a point where I had been out for a bit over 3 1/2 hours I noticed a fellow rider by the road. He was (note, was) riding a Ducati Monster 900 (?). We soon discovered the old Harley trick of "pegging" would not work due to my short legs and the front fairing being in the way. So, we used my passenger grab handle as a tow point. With his left hand on my handle I proceeded to tow him the 8-10 miles to Bandera. I think I stretched the ole boys arm a bit in the process :^) When we got into Bandera, he made a phone call or two and assured me he would be all right, and I came on home (one hour away). Total milage was 210 wonderful miles. Love our Texas Hill Country. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137
    I could have just simply turned around and gone back, but having a bit of a
    spirit of adventure I tried something different. I turned left onto Hwy 83 a
    short distance and then turned left onto 1050. That turned out to also be a
    really nice road. It seemed to be "out in the middle of nowhere", but a nice
    diversion that would take me back to 187 near Utopia and then back to 470 and
    backtracking into Bandera.
    Today it actually took me longer than 5 hours, but my estimate should be
    pretty accurate. At a point where I had been out for a bit over 3 1/2 hours I
    noticed a fellow rider by the road. He was (note, was) riding a Ducati
    Monster 900 (?).  We soon discovered the old Harley trick of "pegging" would
    not work due to my short legs and the front fairing being in the way. So, we
    used my passenger grab handle as a tow point. With his left hand on my handle
    I proceeded to tow him the 8-10 miles to Bandera. I think I stretched the ole
    boys arm a bit in the process :^)  When we got into Bandera, he made a phone
    call or two and assured me he would be all right, and I came on home (one
    hour away).  Total milage was 210 wonderful miles. Love our Texas Hill
    Country.  
     

    Bill Richardson
    98PC"Scoot"
    San Antonio
    iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

    Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:44:54 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ben Crisologo" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clock,timer,thermometer,compass guage Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:44:54 Does anyone know where one can get an all in one, clock,timer,thermometer, and compass guage? Brookstone has a clock and thermometer for $29. But I have not seen one with the four features in one product. Thanks, Ben 95 PC800 Los Angeles, CA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Jesus Soriano" , Subject: Re: PC800: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:08:19 -0800 I am not an mechanic, but from personal use I don't think the type of oil has anything to do with a leak. Many years ago when the first Mobil One came out there might have been a problem, but it's been changed. Even then at that time I had already been using synthetic oil (can't remember the brand) without any problems. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jesus Soriano" To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: PC800: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. > My 95 PC started leaking oil a couple of months ago. > Just a few drops every night, not enough to spend the > US $800 that the dealer wanted (even the mechanic said > it wasn't serious enough to do it at this time). > > Anyway, today I received the new Barnett clutch that I > plan to have install next week. I have read that the > time to change to synthetic oil is when you have the > clutch replaced, but I also seem to recall that if you > have an oil leak it's better to stick to non-synthetic > oils, so my question is this: Should I change to > synthetic oil despite the oil leak or will I be better > off continuing with regular oil?. > > I have used Spectrum 10-40 for the past 50K without > any problems (except the occasional clutch slip that I > attribute to weak springs). > > Thank you for your input. > > Jesus Soriano, > '95 PC "Raquel" > San Diego, California. > > __________________________________________________ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:56:27 -0600 Subject: PC800: PC CB for sale From: Daryl To: PC800 CC: FYI Please reply to TomBe123@aol.com directly if interested... ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TomBe123@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:32:18 EST To: tschoepe@mac.com Subject: Pacific Coast Hello I am a recent owner of two (2 ) Pacific Coasts, which I enjoyed immensely. Unfortuneately I had to sell both, but have a CB radio which was made expressely for the Coast I'd like to sell. It is the type which is mounted in the trunk & has the complete wiring harness for the rider & passenger (with plug-ins & push to talk buttons). I have invested over $600.00 in this set up & would be happy to sell it for $200.00. I am currently located in the Phoenix Az area but will be in Western WIS by mid April. Would you l;ist in your parts database, or tell me how I can get in touch with P.C. owner's to advise them of the availability? Thank you Tom Beacham (tombe123@aol.com) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:44:37 -0600 "Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area?" (Feb 2, 6:32pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Better to wait until spring to sell a PC8000 in Washington DC area? And just how did you think it made your PC feel, to be hauled off in a TRAILER! Hope the new owner finds out soon that this isn't a Harley, its a real motorcycle that can get where it needs to go on it's own two wheels. Revill Dunn (Boy, it's hard to type with my tongue in cheek) :, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 16:23:31 UT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:23:30 -0600 From: Michael Combrink To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) Hello to the list, I have a question about fixing a '90 pc800 after it's been down. This weekend, my wife and I took a ride across the Talimena drive in OK. On the way home, she hit some gravel on a curve and wrecked. We were probably going between 50 and 60 at the time. Since we ride in full face helmet, Motoport jacket and pants, boots, etc, she came through with a sprained wrist and a sore shoulder. From the scratches on her helmet, it could have been a lot worse. A witness to the wreck ( I was leading and didn't see it), said that the bike bounced and came down one the right side. The mirror, exhaust vent, foot pegs, and crash bar covers were all broken on that side. There is also lots of scrapes on the other side so it may have flipped. Of course, my new (it was my bike, she was riding it because of the better wind protection than on her shadow Spirit, which I was riding at the time) +5 Clearview windshield was shattered. The back tire is flat and the starter won't even try to turn the engine over. The lights dim and that is all. I'm going to check the battery charge this evening. It looked ok, but I'm not sure how old it is. I just bought the bike last Sept. There is no obvious frame damage, though I haven't looked closely at the foot peg bracket yet. The insurance adjuster that looked at it was pretty sure it would be totaled just from the plastic damage. My question is, if I can get it started and there doesn't seem to be any damage to the rims or forks, would it be worth buying from the Ins. company and fixing up? Scratches I can live with, I'd probably just replace what was broken. How sturdy are these bikes under all the plastic? Is it likely that I'd have problems with the plastic coming loose in the future? There was a lot of places where things were popped out, but snapped back into place. I guess I'm asking has anyone put one back together after a wreck and what unexpected problems they ran into. The fact that it "bounced" has me worried. BTW, the web sight is one of my favorite stops on the net. I was a member of the list until the traffic level got to heavy for a work pc. Best regards, Michael Combrink mcombrink@memc.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:52:47 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) To: , Michael, It's sad to hear of the accident. It is good news that for the most part, your wife is OK. I'm sure the protective gear had a lot to do with it. The PC appears to be a sturdy bike. However, if the frame is bent, I wouldn't bother with fixing it up. Especially with the amount of tupperware damage you've mentioned. An mechanic once told me of an easy way to see if a frame is bent. It only works if you can get the bike running and rolling. It follows: Run the bike through a puddle of water while going straight. If you have one line exiting the puddle, the frame may not be bent. If you have two lines exiting the puddle, either you have a bent frame, bent fork or a bent rear swingbar. As far as plastic damage, you are probably talking at least a $1,000. A trunk lid alone will cost somewhere around $400. Each crash cover is approximately $30 and the sideview mirror assemblies are around $200. New Clearview windshield is about $150. All of the amounts I've listed are on the low side. I would expect the actual amounts to be more. A new muffler system is also very expense, if it needs to be replaced. I would call Honda of Milptas for better figures. I've ordered parts from the listed Honda shop at very good prices and excellent service. You just need to stress you are doing mail order and are out of state. They provide a pretty generous discount for mail order. I wish you Good luck on your decision, I've fixed up a broken down PC once and it takes some work and patience. Fixing the PC is not a one day affair. BTW, replace your wife's helmet if she continues to ride. They are only made to absorb one impact. The IMPORTANT thing is that your wife is OK! I wish you well on your decision. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 In a message dated Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael Combrink writes: << Hello to the list, I have a question about fixing a '90 pc800 after it's been down. This weekend, my wife and I took a ride across the Talimena drive in OK. On the way home, she hit some gravel on a curve and wrecked. We were probably going between 50 and 60 at the time. Since we ride in full face helmet, Motoport jacket and pants, boots, etc, she came through with a sprained wrist and a sore shoulder. From the scratches on her helmet, it could have been a lot worse. A witness to the wreck ( I was leading and didn't see it), said that the bike bounced and came down one the right side. The mirror, exhaust vent, foot pegs, and crash bar covers were all broken on that side. There is also lots of scrapes on the other side so it may have flipped. Of course, my new (it was my bike, she was riding it because of the better wind protection than on her shadow Spirit, which I was riding at the time) +5 Clearview windshield was shattered. The back tire is flat and the starter won't even try to turn the engine over. The lights dim and that is all. I'm going to check the battery charge this evening. It looked ok, but I'm not sure how old it is. I just bought the bike last Sept. There is no obvious frame damage, though I haven't looked closely at the foot peg bracket yet. The insurance adjuster that looked at it was pretty sure it would be totaled just from the plastic damage. My question is, if I can get it started and there doesn't seem to be any damage to the rims or forks, would it be worth buying from the Ins. company and fixing up? Scratches I can live with, I'd probably just replace what was broken. How sturdy are these bikes under all the plastic? Is it likely that I'd have problems with the plastic coming loose in the future? There was a lot of places where things were popped out, but snapped back into place. I guess I'm asking has anyone put one back together after a wreck and what unexpected problems they ran into. The fact that it "bounced" has me worried. BTW, the web sight is one of my favorite stops on the net. I was a member of the list until the traffic level got to heavy for a work pc. Best regards, Michael Combrink mcombrink@memc.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Fenwick" To: , , Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:14:58 -0600 Importance: Normal Tom made some excellent points. However, I can add to one... >BTW, replace your wife's helmet if she continues to ride. They are only made to absorb one >impact. Contact the manufacturer of the helmet and see if they can evaluate it. I wear a Shoei, and they will inspect/evaluate the helmet at no charge. I'm not sure if other manufacturers offer this. They will let you know if it is safe or not. However, I'd probably buy a new one anyway, but would be curious to hear the manufacturers evaluation anyway... ******************* >From www.shoei.com: Is a crashed / dropped helmet still safe to wear? Current safety helmets are designed to absorb the energy of an accident by being destroyed. Even a small impact can damage the integrity of the shell or EPS liner. Quite often this damage may be unnoticeable to the untrained eye. Therefore, any helmet involved in an impact should not be used again or sent to the manufacturer for inspection. Shoei Safety helmet will inspect Shoei helmets free of charge (except shipping to us). Helmets should be sent with a letter explaining what happened with return address and phone number: Shoei Safety Helmet Corp. Attn: Inspection Department 3002 Dow, Suite 128 Tustin, CA 92780 Upon receipt, Shoei staff will inspect the helmet (within 3 business days) and return it (to the specified address, by UPS ground) with a note explaining the condition of the helmet. Rich Fenwick http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 - 33,000 miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Thfwsf@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:53 AM To: mcombrink@memc.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) Michael, It's sad to hear of the accident. It is good news that for the most part, your wife is OK. I'm sure the protective gear had a lot to do with it. The PC appears to be a sturdy bike. However, if the frame is bent, I wouldn't bother with fixing it up. Especially with the amount of tupperware damage you've mentioned. An mechanic once told me of an easy way to see if a frame is bent. It only works if you can get the bike running and rolling. It follows: Run the bike through a puddle of water while going straight. If you have one line exiting the puddle, the frame may not be bent. If you have two lines exiting the puddle, either you have a bent frame, bent fork or a bent rear swingbar. As far as plastic damage, you are probably talking at least a $1,000. A trunk lid alone will cost somewhere around $400. Each crash cover is approximately $30 and the sideview mirror assemblies are around $200. New Clearview windshield is about $150. All of the amounts I've listed are on the low side. I would expect the actual amounts to be more. A new muffler system is also very expense, if it needs to be replaced. I would call Honda of Milptas for better figures. I've ordered parts from the listed Honda shop at very good prices and excellent service. You just need to stress you are doing mail order and are out of state. They provide a pretty generous discount for mail order. I wish you Good luck on your decision, I've fixed up a broken down PC once and it takes some work and patience. Fixing the PC is not a one day affair. BTW, replace your wife's helmet if she continues to ride. They are only made to absorb one impact. The IMPORTANT thing is that your wife is OK! I wish you well on your decision. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 In a message dated Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael Combrink writes: << Hello to the list, I have a question about fixing a '90 pc800 after it's been down. This weekend, my wife and I took a ride across the Talimena drive in OK. On the way home, she hit some gravel on a curve and wrecked. We were probably going between 50 and 60 at the time. Since we ride in full face helmet, Motoport jacket and pants, boots, etc, she came through with a sprained wrist and a sore shoulder. From the scratches on her helmet, it could have been a lot worse. A witness to the wreck ( I was leading and didn't see it), said that the bike bounced and came down one the right side. The mirror, exhaust vent, foot pegs, and crash bar covers were all broken on that side. There is also lots of scrapes on the other side so it may have flipped. Of course, my new (it was my bike, she was riding it because of the better wind protection than on her shadow Spirit, which I was riding at the time) +5 Clearview windshield was shattered. The back tire is flat and the starter won't even try to turn the engine over. The lights dim and that is all. I'm going to check the battery charge this evening. It looked ok, but I'm not sure how old it is. I just bought the bike last Sept. There is no obvious frame damage, though I haven't looked closely at the foot peg bracket yet. The insurance adjuster that looked at it was pretty sure it would be totaled just from the plastic damage. My question is, if I can get it started and there doesn't seem to be any damage to the rims or forks, would it be worth buying from the Ins. company and fixing up? Scratches I can live with, I'd probably just replace what was broken. How sturdy are these bikes under all the plastic? Is it likely that I'd have problems with the plastic coming loose in the future? There was a lot of places where things were popped out, but snapped back into place. I guess I'm asking has anyone put one back together after a wreck and what unexpected problems they ran into. The fact that it "bounced" has me worried. BTW, the web sight is one of my favorite stops on the net. I was a member of the list until the traffic level got to heavy for a work pc. Best regards, Michael Combrink mcombrink@memc.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:20:09 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Funny Photo A friend forwarded me a funny photo. Since I don't have a convenient website to post it to, and it doesn't seem to be the norm to attach photo files to postings to this site, I guess I'll just mention it, and let you ask for a copy. No, it's not PC related. So, email me back if you want to see it. Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Kenneth Winter" , "Thomas Ongstad" , "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:55:44 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Kenneth Winter To: Thomas Ongstad ; Pacific Coast mailing list Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil > I have been using latex glove to work on my vehicles for the past few years. > I love being able to sneak to the garage and work on something without have > to degrease after working. I just have to remember to take my good pants > off. > > Kenneth Winter > Dont your legs get cold? or greasy? ;-} latex gloves are great, I use them in the garage all the time. Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 HOC #17010 City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic Milton Keynes '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CNER@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:54:37 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) To: mcombrink@memc.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Michael Sorry to hear about the wreck and glad to hear she walked away with only a bruised wrist and pride. I have an '89 that I bought in nearly the condition that you say yours is in now. Someone else had started the reconstruction and I have nearly finished it. Try to reinflate the rear tire. It may have only broken the seal from landing on the side. With the bike on the center stand, have someone hold the front tire on the ground and then spin the rear tire to see if the rim is bent. Check the front rim as well. The first thing I would look for is tracking. Someone hold the bike upright with the wheel facing straight ahead. Now kneel down a few paces directly behind the bike and try to get an idea of how the tires look in relation to the bike and to each other. Look for any obvious misalignments. If it bounced hard, it may have bent the forks or worse, the head tube. Even though it doesn't run, another way to look at tracking alignment is to have someone steer it as straight as possible while coasting down the driveway or road. Again look for any obvious misalignments. I'm sure there are specs on specific measurements to mathematically determine if the frame and/or forks are bent. Other listers may be able to offer other ideas. The Tupperware parts can be repaired and repainted if they are not too bad. Fellow lister Neil Thompson (Neill.Thompson@Sequencia.com)has done some such Tupperware repairs and may be able to add some insight. I just bought all new parts that I needed from Honda. Many listers buy parts and accessories from Honda of Milpitas(http://www.hondamil.com/) in CA as they are great to deal with and will offer you a discount off retail of 10 or 15%(?) There is pricey frame that holds the upper front components together. This will probably have to be replaced so that everything will line up again. The mirrors, head light, dash, windshield and all related Tupperware are in some way connected to this frame. Cost is about $350 if memory serves. It's a big project and I guess it depends on how much you love that bike. Post some pics of it so we can take a look. If you decide not to buy it from the ins. co. should they total it, I or someone else on this list may be interested in buying it to rebuild it or for parts. Hope this helps. Good luck. Rick Sener '89 PC "Summer Snow" Burlington, Vermont
    bike.  Post some pics of it so we can take a look.  If you decide not to buy
    it from the ins. co. should they total it, I or someone else on this list may
    be interested in buying it to rebuild it or for parts.
          Hope this helps. Good luck.

    Rick Sener
    '89 PC "Summer Snow"
    Burlington, Vermont Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 18:10:34 UT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc To: "Rich Fenwick" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Thfwsf@aol.com From: "Michael Combrink" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:10:31 -0600 02/05/2001 12:11:15 PM Rich, It was not a real expensive helmet,(it was snell rated though) so I'll just replace it. We've been looking at some of the newer helmets and thinking of replacing it anyway. Best regards, Michael "Rich Fenwick" To: AT MEMCPSMTP@MEMCMail, Michael AT MEMCPSMTP@MEMCMail om> AT cc: MEMCPSMTP Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc 02/05/01 11:17 AM Tom made some excellent points. However, I can add to one... >BTW, replace your wife's helmet if she continues to ride. They are only made to absorb one >impact. Contact the manufacturer of the helmet and see if they can evaluate it. I wear a Shoei, and they will inspect/evaluate the helmet at no charge. I'm not sure if other manufacturers offer this. They will let you know if it is safe or not. However, I'd probably buy a new one anyway, but would be curious to hear the manufacturers evaluation anyway... ******************* >From www.shoei.com: Is a crashed / dropped helmet still safe to wear? Current safety helmets are designed to absorb the energy of an accident by being destroyed. Even a small impact can damage the integrity of the shell or EPS liner. Quite often this damage may be unnoticeable to the untrained eye. Therefore, any helmet involved in an impact should not be used again or sent to the manufacturer for inspection. Shoei Safety helmet will inspect Shoei helmets free of charge (except shipping to us). Helmets should be sent with a letter explaining what happened with return address and phone number: Shoei Safety Helmet Corp. Attn: Inspection Department 3002 Dow, Suite 128 Tustin, CA 92780 Upon receipt, Shoei staff will inspect the helmet (within 3 business days) and return it (to the specified address, by UPS ground) with a note explaining the condition of the helmet. Rich Fenwick http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 - 33,000 miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Thfwsf@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:53 AM To: mcombrink@memc.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc) Michael, It's sad to hear of the accident. It is good news that for the most part, your wife is OK. I'm sure the protective gear had a lot to do with it. The PC appears to be a sturdy bike. However, if the frame is bent, I wouldn't bother with fixing it up. Especially with the amount of tupperware damage you've mentioned. An mechanic once told me of an easy way to see if a frame is bent. It only works if you can get the bike running and rolling. It follows: Run the bike through a puddle of water while going straight. If you have one line exiting the puddle, the frame may not be bent. If you have two lines exiting the puddle, either you have a bent frame, bent fork or a bent rear swingbar. As far as plastic damage, you are probably talking at least a $1,000. A trunk lid alone will cost somewhere around $400. Each crash cover is approximately $30 and the sideview mirror assemblies are around $200. New Clearview windshield is about $150. All of the amounts I've listed are on the low side. I would expect the actual amounts to be more. A new muffler system is also very expense, if it needs to be replaced. I would call Honda of Milptas for better figures. I've ordered parts from the listed Honda shop at very good prices and excellent service. You just need to stress you are doing mail order and are out of state. They provide a pretty generous discount for mail order. I wish you Good luck on your decision, I've fixed up a broken down PC once and it takes some work and patience. Fixing the PC is not a one day affair. BTW, replace your wife's helmet if she continues to ride. They are only made to absorb one impact. The IMPORTANT thing is that your wife is OK! I wish you well on your decision. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 In a message dated Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael Combrink writes: << Hello to the list, I have a question about fixing a '90 pc800 after it's been down. This weekend, my wife and I took a ride across the Talimena drive in OK. On the way home, she hit some gravel on a curve and wrecked. We were probably going between 50 and 60 at the time. Since we ride in full face helmet, Motoport jacket and pants, boots, etc, she came through with a sprained wrist and a sore shoulder. From the scratches on her helmet, it could have been a lot worse. A witness to the wreck ( I was leading and didn't see it), said that the bike bounced and came down one the right side. The mirror, exhaust vent, foot pegs, and crash bar covers were all broken on that side. There is also lots of scrapes on the other side so it may have flipped. Of course, my new (it was my bike, she was riding it because of the better wind protection than on her shadow Spirit, which I was riding at the time) +5 Clearview windshield was shattered. The back tire is flat and the starter won't even try to turn the engine over. The lights dim and that is all. I'm going to check the battery charge this evening. It looked ok, but I'm not sure how old it is. I just bought the bike last Sept. There is no obvious frame damage, though I haven't looked closely at the foot peg bracket yet. The insurance adjuster that looked at it was pretty sure it would be totaled just from the plastic damage. My question is, if I can get it started and there doesn't seem to be any damage to the rims or forks, would it be worth buying from the Ins. company and fixing up? Scratches I can live with, I'd probably just replace what was broken. How sturdy are these bikes under all the plastic? Is it likely that I'd have problems with the plastic coming loose in the future? There was a lot of places where things were popped out, but snapped back into place. I guess I'm asking has anyone put one back together after a wreck and what unexpected problems they ran into. The fact that it "bounced" has me worried. BTW, the web sight is one of my favorite stops on the net. I was a member of the list until the traffic level got to heavy for a work pc. Best regards, Michael Combrink mcombrink@memc.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Revill Dunn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:10:58 -0800 To share photo's with anyone, open up an free account at PhotoPoint: http://www.photopoint.com/ I believe MSN, Yahoo and many more sites offer the same type of free service. Then you can upload any photo you want to share and just send out the url address to anyone to share it with. Others can look at it without having to download it in a email, and if they want can copy it to their own harddrive. An example is my own account at PhotoPoint: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=43057 You can also make little movies from the uploaded pictures, example is at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/SmashCast?u=43057&mode=list Have fun, share with the world. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: PC800: Funny Photo > A friend forwarded me a funny photo. Since I don't have a convenient website > to post it to, and it doesn't seem to be the norm to attach photo files to > postings to this site, I guess I'll just mention it, and let you ask for a > copy. No, it's not PC related. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 18:29:07 UT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc To: Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Michael Combrink" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:29:01 -0600 02/05/2001 12:29:45 PM Rick, Thanks for the heads-up on the frame for the fairing. I wasn't aware of it. And for the info on checking the frame. I've only owned the bike since last Sept, so I haven't had much riding time with it. It is a great bike though. If I think it's to big a job to restore, I'll be looking for another pc. I should be hearing from the Ins Co. sometime this week, and I'll find what they want for it. If possible, I'd like to fix it back up, if not, I'll try and let the list know what they want for it. The PC is about as close to perfect as any bike as I've ridden, and in 20 years, that's quite a few. Best regards, Michael ---------------------------------------------------- Regards, Michael Combrink MEMC Southwest, Systems Administrator (903) 891-5729 Fax (903) 891 5705 Email: mcombrink@memc.com ----------------------------------------------------- AT To: Michael Combrink/MIS/SW/MEMC, pc800@hpc.uh.edu AT MEMCPSMTP MEMCPSMTP@MEMCMail cc: 02/05/01 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net (fixing a wrecked pc 11:55 AM Hi Michael Sorry to hear about the wreck and glad to hear she walked away with only a bruised wrist and pride. I have an '89 that I bought in nearly the condition that you say yours is in now. Someone else had started the reconstruction and I have nearly finished it. Try to reinflate the rear tire. It may have only broken the seal from landing on the side. With the bike on the center stand, have someone hold the front tire on the ground and then spin the rear tire to see if the rim is bent. Check the front rim as well. The first thing I would look for is tracking. Someone hold the bike upright with the wheel facing straight ahead. Now kneel down a few paces directly behind the bike and try to get an idea of how the tires look in relation to the bike and to each other. Look for any obvious misalignments. If it bounced hard, it may have bent the forks or worse, the head tube. Even though it doesn't run, another way to look at tracking alignment is to have someone steer it as straight as possible while coasting down the driveway or road. Again look for any obvious misalignments. I'm sure there are specs on specific measurements to mathematically determine if the frame and/or forks are bent. Other listers may be able to offer other ideas. The Tupperware parts can be repaired and repainted if they are not too bad. Fellow lister Neil Thompson (Neill.Thompson@Sequencia.com)has done some such Tupperware repairs and may be able to add some insight. I just bought all new parts that I needed from Honda. Many listers buy parts and accessories from Honda of Milpitas(http://www.hondamil.com/) in CA as they are great to deal with and will offer you a discount off retail of 10 or 15%(?) There is pricey frame that holds the upper front components together. This will probably have to be replaced so that everything will line up again. The mirrors, head light, dash, windshield and all related Tupperware are in some way connected to this frame. Cost is about $350 if memory serves. It's a big project and I guess it depends on how much you love that bike. Post some pics of it so we can take a look. If you decide not to buy it from the ins. co. should they total it, I or someone else on this list may be interested in buying it to rebuild it or for parts. Hope this helps. Good luck. Rick Sener '89 PC "Summer Snow" Burlington, Vermont Hi Michael
          Sorry to hear about the wreck and glad to hear she walked away with
    only a
    bruised wrist and pride.
          I have an '89 that I bought in nearly the condition that you say yours
    is in now.
    Someone else had started the reconstruction and I have nearly finished it.  
          Try to reinflate the rear tire.  It may have only broken the seal from
    landing on the side.  With the bike on the center stand, have someone hold
    the front tire on the ground and then spin the rear tire to see if the rim is
    bent.  Check the front rim as well.
          The first thing I would look for is tracking.  Someone hold the bike
    upright with the
    wheel facing straight ahead.  Now kneel down a few paces directly behind the
    bike and try
    to get an idea of how the tires look in relation to the bike and to each
    other.  Look
    for any obvious misalignments.  If it bounced hard, it may have bent the
    forks or worse, the head tube.  Even though it doesn't run, another way to
    look at tracking alignment is to have someone steer it as straight as
    possible while coasting down the driveway or road. Again
    look for any obvious misalignments.  I'm sure there are specs on specific
    measurements to mathematically determine if the frame and/or forks are bent.  
    Other listers may be able to offer other ideas.                    
           The Tupperware parts can be repaired and repainted if they are not too
    bad.  Fellow
    lister Neil Thompson (Neill.Thompson@Sequencia.com)has done some such
    Tupperware repairs and may be able to add some insight.  I just bought all
    new parts that I needed from Honda.  Many listers buy parts and accessories
    from Honda of Milpitas( http://www.hondamil.com/) in CA as they are great to
    deal with and will offer you a discount off retail of 10 or 15%(?)        
          There is pricey frame that holds the upper front components together.  
    This will
    probably have to be replaced so that everything will line up again.  The
    mirrors, head light,
    dash, windshield and all related Tupperware are in some way connected to this
    frame. Cost
    is about $350 if memory serves.
          It's a big project and I guess it depends on how much you love that
    bike.  Post some pics of it so we can take a look.  If you decide not to buy
    it from the ins. co. should they total it, I or someone else on this list may
    be interested in buying it to rebuild it or for parts.
          Hope this helps. Good luck.

    Rick Sener
    '89 PC "Summer Snow"
    Burlington, Vermont     -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 12:14:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Funny Photo Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:17:00 +0100 Importance: Normal Or send the photo to me so I can put it on the www.ipcrc.org site.. or upload it yourself to the pacificcoast site, either the MSN or yahoogroups (was egroups) site, plenty of space there. Go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pacificcoast Only thing is you have to be a member of the group to post a file / photo, but being the moderator I can make you a member instantly if you want.. Emile http://photos.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Will Edwards Sent: maandag 5 februari 2001 19:11 To: Revill Dunn; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo To share photo's with anyone, open up an free account at PhotoPoint: http://www.photopoint.com/ I believe MSN, Yahoo and many more sites offer the same type of free service. Then you can upload any photo you want to share and just send out the url address to anyone to share it with. Others can look at it without having to download it in a email, and if they want can copy it to their own harddrive. An example is my own account at PhotoPoint: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=43057 You can also make little movies from the uploaded pictures, example is at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/SmashCast?u=43057&mode=list Have fun, share with the world. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: PC800: Funny Photo > A friend forwarded me a funny photo. Since I don't have a convenient website > to post it to, and it doesn't seem to be the norm to attach photo files to > postings to this site, I guess I'll just mention it, and let you ask for a > copy. No, it's not PC related. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: NYC show schedule posted To: PC800 LIST It's the NYC show schedule! http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~ccarstan/PCRCNYC.html Saturday - meeting times 2pm and 5pm meet at the factory Honda ST1100 model (please don't drool on it) IF a ST1100 isn't present - we will meet at factory Honda 1800 GoldWing Display We will discuss dinner plans - but we heavily leaning towards Virgils ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Ben Crisologo'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Gassing Up Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:05:45 -0500 Some nozzles have a rubber boot kind of thing that has a trip switch embedded in it not unlike the switch that will not allow you to start the bike unless the clutch is held in. You have to manually squeeze it towards the handle, I'm afraid, or jam it onto your tank (and risk paint damage as well as overfilling). Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ben Crisologo [mailto:bcrisologo@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:34 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gassing Up Does anyone know why some gas pumps "refuse" to turn on when filling gas in your tank? I have difficulties filling up sometimes and cannot make the pump to work. I suspect it has something to do with the nozzle having to go all the way in (I have tried every which way) or I must be getting senile! Ben 95 PC800 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Gassing Up Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:23:49 -0800 In California some stations have the 'springy boot' with the apparent Saul mentions, yet a few miles away the same brand station does not. Also stations with a high traffic flow have only one speed for their pumps ('firehose velocity') Whereas others (same brand) have very nice progressive speed control that really makes topping off easy. I make it a point to be a patron to those stations that still provide 'progressive' control. Jeff K. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:06 PM To: 'Ben Crisologo'; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Gassing Up Some nozzles have a rubber boot kind of thing that has a trip switch embedded in it not unlike the switch that will not allow you to start the bike unless the clutch is held in. You have to manually squeeze it towards the handle, I'm afraid, or jam it onto your tank (and risk paint damage as well as overfilling). Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ben Crisologo [mailto:bcrisologo@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:34 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gassing Up Does anyone know why some gas pumps "refuse" to turn on when filling gas in your tank? I have difficulties filling up sometimes and cannot make the pump to work. I suspect it has something to do with the nozzle having to go all the way in (I have tried every which way) or I must be getting senile! Ben 95 PC800 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:26:12 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up "Goldberg, Saul" wrote: > > Some nozzles have a rubber boot kind of thing that has a trip switch > embedded in it not unlike the switch that will not allow you to start the > bike unless the clutch is held in. You have to manually squeeze it towards > the handle, I'm afraid, or jam it onto your tank (and risk paint damage as > well as overfilling). There is (was?) a device being marketed for just this purpose. It is a metal ring that you slide over the metal portion of the nozzle, and will hold the vapor-return bellows back while you fuel up. It is cut in the outline of a pig, so that tells you waht brand the developer had in mind when he created it. I have no information on sources, but I think I saw it in MCN. Good luck! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:58:35 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Russ Goff CC: Kenneth Winter , Pacific Coast mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil Russ Goff wrote: > > latex gloves are great, I use them in the garage all the time. > > Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 HOC #17010 > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > Milton Keynes > '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i > > If you are using the latex gloves to change oil, be forwarned they will not protect you from hot oil. Still felt like it was burning. That is why I went back to the winter gloves. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:06:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:04:27 -0800 To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu, PC800 From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up I have one made on the same principal, but it is made out of ABS plastic. The other ones were called HOG Rings. I think the reference speaks for itself. Jim Alexander At 02:26 PM 02/05/2001, Juan A. Goula wrote: > > >There is (was?) a device being marketed for just this purpose. It is a metal >ring that you slide over the metal portion of the nozzle, and will hold the >vapor-return bellows back while you fuel up. It is cut in the outline of a >pig, >so that tells you waht brand the developer had in mind when he created it. I >have no information on sources, but I think I saw it in MCN. Good luck! > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:14:37 -0500 Cc: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: RE: PC800: changing oil Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:14:15 -0500 Importance: Normal They do not completely protect you, but they do provide some protection. I wear them for every change on every item I have, which is quite a fleet at this point. They work great, but only to protect you from splashes of hot oil, etc. I would not use them to get completely saturated. I do like that they are disposable. I probably use about 100 of them a month with all the work I do on my stuff. Chris 98 PC800 78 P200E vespa 87 Helix 65 Bultaco (recently departed) 94 Yamaha Xt350 (Coming tommorrow, maybe) 01 Honda Reflex, coming soon -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Thomas Ongstad Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: Russ Goff Cc: Kenneth Winter; Pacific Coast mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: changing oil Russ Goff wrote: > > latex gloves are great, I use them in the garage all the time. > > Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 HOC #17010 > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > Milton Keynes > '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i > > If you are using the latex gloves to change oil, be forwarned they will not protect you from hot oil. Still felt like it was burning. That is why I went back to the winter gloves. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) 5 Feb 2001 16:17:40 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:20:04 -0800 From: Tom & Anita Humphrey Subject: RE: PC800: Gassing Up To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu, PC800 Importance: Normal Yes, this device is called the "Gas Hog" and is black aluminnimum (who stutters?)about 3" x 3" and, of course, was marketed for the Harley crowd. It works great! Tom in Clayton, CA who has one velcro'd in his trunk. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Juan A. Goula Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:26 PM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Gassing Up "Goldberg, Saul" wrote: > > Some nozzles have a rubber boot kind of thing that has a trip switch > embedded in it not unlike the switch that will not allow you to start the > bike unless the clutch is held in. You have to manually squeeze it towards > the handle, I'm afraid, or jam it onto your tank (and risk paint damage as > well as overfilling). There is (was?) a device being marketed for just this purpose. It is a metal ring that you slide over the metal portion of the nozzle, and will hold the vapor-return bellows back while you fuel up. It is cut in the outline of a pig, so that tells you waht brand the developer had in mind when he created it. I have no information on sources, but I think I saw it in MCN. Good luck! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:37:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:35:50 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo To: Revill Dunn Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: ccaronna@swbell.net Well Revell, As a fellow Texan you have peaked my couriosity (is that spelled right?). Please forward me the photo!!! Chris in Corpus '98 PC Red Tide Revill Dunn wrote: > A friend forwarded me a funny photo. Since I don't have a convenient website > to post it to, and it doesn't seem to be the norm to attach photo files to > postings to this site, I guess I'll just mention it, and let you ask for a > copy. No, it's not PC related. > > So, email me back if you want to see it. > > Revill > Rider of Whirby > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ccaronna@swbell.net by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:50:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:46:50 -0600 Subject: PC800: Texas Weather - Riding report To: PC 800 list Reply-to: ccaronna@swbell.net Hey Guys, The weather here has been beautiful. I have ridden Red Tide to work 3 days last week and looks like I will make all 5 days this week. A little cool in the AM around 40 degrees but beautiful coming over the Harbor Bridge each PM. Very little wind. Took a 50 mile ride this Sunday to the ferry landing and watched the dolphins playing in the ferry boat wake. Rode over the bridges in between here and Aransas Pass. Flat bay, beautiful water, beautiful day! Hope it warms up for you guys up north so you can enjoy your PC's Chris in Corpus '98 PC Red Tide -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:12:51 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:12:14 +0100 http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! 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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:35:31 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:34:00 -0600 OK, we were talking about changing oil with and without pants, winter and latex gloves, summer riding gear, winter riding gear... and now I see there is a new line of birthday suit riding gear. Wonder what the wife would think of that.... NEVERMIND! Don't think she'll see this one. She may not let me go to the Chicago Cycle show afterall! "A blushing" MRG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid Lřvik To: PC 800 LIST Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg Regards Arvid Lřvik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid Lřvik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: PC 800 LIST Subject: RE: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:34:10 -0800 I hope those leathers come with silicone implants. - Otherwise it just won't fit me the same. =20 Jeff K. =20 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid L=F8vik [mailto:alvik@chello.no] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:12 PM To: PC 800 LIST Subject: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg =20 =20 =20 Regards =20 Arvid L=F8vik =20 ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com =20 .................................................. =20 Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 = (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com =20 =20 My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik PC 800=20 "SOS" PCRC # 2
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    Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:34:32 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Texas Weather - Riding report To: ccaronna@swbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Chris, I will second that. It was great the last few days. I rode everyday last week. I also made two Hill Country runs last weekend. On Saturday I did the old "wonder where this road goes" run and ended up on a dead end dirt road somewhere outside of Bandera. Then Sunday I made a pre-run on the route we hope to take this next weekend. Any chance you can join us? So far the forecast is for partly cloudy 40-60 both Saturday and Sunday. A little cool for Texans, but not enough for me to cancel. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137
    the old "wonder where this road goes" run and ended up on a dead end dirt
    road somewhere outside of Bandera. Then Sunday I made a pre-run on the route
    we hope to take this next weekend. Any chance you can join us? So far the
    forecast is for partly cloudy 40-60 both Saturday and Sunday. A little cool
    for Texans, but not enough for me to cancel.
    Bill Richardson
    98PC"Scoot"
    San Antonio
    iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

    Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 19:35:55 -0600 From: William Drake To: Arvid =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik?= CC: PC 800 LIST Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden I wonder if they will be at for sale at CHicago Show?? :0 > Arvid Lřvik wrote: > > http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg > > > Regards > > Arvid Lřvik > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 > 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" > 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 > 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer > My Home page is at: > http://lovik.tripod.com > .................................................. > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen > 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com > > My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) > My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 > Arvid Lřvik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= , "PC 800 LIST" Subject: RE: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:37:26 -0500 Importance: Normal That's an awesome pic. If I ever go into marketing, those would be my ad campaigns. Why bother with anything else. Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Arvid Lřvik Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:12 PM To: PC 800 LIST Subject: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg Regards Arvid Lřvik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid Lřvik 800=20 "SOS" PCRC # 2
    90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty"
    82 GW 1100 Aspencade = &=20 HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178
    96 Bushtec Turbo + 2=20 trailer
    My Home page is at:
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    My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! = )
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:46:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:46:42 EST Subject: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Received the message copied below from a non-pc800 owner who wanted to write me about his recent riding experience -- makes the worry about synthetic oil seem inconsequential. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Good Morning Gordon: Hope all is well with you.=A0 Do you have any knowledge about the status of value for the PC 800's.=A0 Later today I will let my insurance company know what my decision will be if I plan on keeping my bike. Since August 11, I have been in over ten events which have totally changed my life.=A0 It started with being robbed in the supermarket up in Dover at noon hour.=A0 Then five days later, I was a victim of a hit and run driver on Constitution/Pennsylvania Avenues in DC at 6:10 in the morning.=A0 The motorcycle was totaled and I walked away from it all. Since then many (11) other things happened, like two road rage events, a lady hitting my truck on New York Ave, two different times 18 wheelers running me off the roads, and ending with a bullet coming through my windshield several weeks ago here in Delaware. However I had another accident with my motorcycle on Dec 7.=A0 DC highway department failed to put up signs=A0 stating uneven payment ahead.=A0 Since I was over an hour late leaving work, the commuter traffic was crazy so I decided to get over three lanes to the right so that I could be in the slower traffic.=A0 Well that was a mistake, a mile up the road (the top two inches of pavement was removed).=A0 After making the drop down to China and trying to keep the bike up right for about 300 feet, I started bouncing off (three times) the front tire of a large food service truck beside me,=A0 until I hit the road.=A0 They thought that they drove over me. Anyway, five police cars, three fire trucks, two ambulances and one and a half hours later, I with only one leg continued my 84 mile ride home to Viola.=A0 Went to the hospital the next morning.=A0 I am now looking for a lawyer and DC. The results was a broken tendon on my left collar bone, a broken rib next to my heart, and pulled ligaments in my left knee. Continue having problems with my knee (two different braces day and night). So much for all of this crap.=A0 All I wonder is "What is next?=A0 For the past 12 years I have been putting on over 27,000 miles per year on the bike.=A0 Really enjoyed it.=A0 But coming within 1/2 inch of getting my head run over by a truck is too close. Must call the physical therapist now.=A0 Missed my appointment yesterday. Thought that if was for today.=A0 Help! Yes I have been working just about every day.=A0 Had to take a three week vacation at the end of the year. Good Day
    windshield several weeks ago here in Delaware.

    However I had another accident with my motorcycle on Dec 7.=A0 DC highwa= y
    department failed to put up signs=A0 stating uneven payment ahead.=A0 Si= nce
    I was over an hour late leaving work, the commuter traffic was crazy so
    I decided to get over three lanes to the right so that I could be in the
    slower traffic.=A0 Well that was a mistake, a mile up the road (the top
    two inches of pavement was removed).=A0 After making the drop down to
    China and trying to keep the bike up right for about 300 feet, I started
    bouncing off (three times) the front tire of a large food service truck
    beside me,=A0 until I hit the road.=A0 They thought that they drove over= me.
    Anyway, five police cars, three fire trucks, two ambulances and one and
    a half hours later, I with only one leg continued my 84 mile ride home
    to Viola.=A0 Went to the hospital the next morning.=A0 I am now looking=20= for
    a lawyer and DC. The results was a broken tendon on my left collar bone,
    a broken rib next to my heart, and pulled ligaments in my left knee.
    Continue having problems with my knee (two different braces day and
    night).

    So much for all of this crap.=A0 All I wonder is "What is next?=A0 For t= he
    past 12 years I have been putting on over 27,000 miles per year on the
    bike.=A0 Really enjoyed it.=A0 But coming within 1/2 inch of getting my=20= head
    run over by a truck is too close.

    Must call the physical therapist now.=A0 Missed my appointment yesterday= .
    Thought that if was for today.=A0 Help!
    Yes I have been working just about every day.=A0 Had to take a three wee= k
    vacation at the end of the year.

    Good Day

    Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:06:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:06:35 EST Subject: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I met Chris at the Cracker Barrel at our designated time of 10:00am. Chris had commandeered a table for us. We sat down and talked for a few minutes and enjoyed a few cups of coffee before we departed on our way. As usual, at least everytime I've seen him, Chris had a big Ol' grin across his face. It must be the PC in him. We headed out on our way at about 10:30 and headed south on 28, and on to 29. It was a bit chilly out as our hands and feet became a bit chilled, but bearable. We stopped for Gas outside of Madison, VA and revised our route to make a little better time. We wanted to get back before dark. At that point I wasn't wearing my helmet liner, and decided it was a good idea to put it on. For a $12 investment, a simple helmet liner really makes a BIG difference in cool weather riding. After our brief stop, we hit the road and headed on down to Natural Bridge. It's been awhile since I've taken a ride in the country side. It's amazing how brown everything is when it lays dormant during the winter. In my head I imagined how nice this country side would look in the spring and or summer. Nice green vegetation growing on the hills with a nice warm summer sun. On route 28 we went by a few Livestock farms. It brought back the old smells I remember from my childhood when I lived in Illinois. I find a ride is always a good time to reflect on ones thoughts. Clears the mind and makes the soul feel good. On we went.... We made it down to Natural Bridge in the early afternoon. We took off our riding gear and made our way into the tourist attraction, paid the admission and enjoyed the scenery. The Natural Bridge itself is something. A large natural bridge that has some good height. We did our little walk up the path by the Saltpeter Cave and to the mild waterfalls and worked our way back. A nice stroll in the cool air. I was just wearing a sweatshirt and sort of wished I had decided to keep my jacket on. I was still a little chilled from the ride. After the little self-guided tour and some PC orientated gossip we headed back to the parking lot. Chris assisted a tourist in finding Lurray Caverns and I decided to snap a couple of photo's of our bikes, along with Chris helping out the tourist. After that brief interlude, we hopped back on our bikes and headed to a little restaurant near the highway I had seen on the way in. We got to the restaurant and had some quick warm grub. Chris had visions of a Denny's Grand Slam breakfast and I just wanted something warm. Since they weren't serving breakfast, Chris settled for some soup and a cheeseburger. I had myself a French dip. I made sure I soaked my sandwich in the warm juice that came with my sandwich. After getting our bellies full, we went across the street filled up the PC's and headed out on the interstate. We took 81 north to 66. Even though we were on the interstate, It was nice just to look around and see the hills in the surrounding country side. Once again, I imagined what it would look like if trees, grass and other fauna had started to turn it's spring colors. On we went.... We cruised along at about 75 to 80mph for about 110 miles before we stopped and gassed our PC's once again. Then it hammered it on home for the remaining miles. We honked our horns as I pulled off on 234 and headed back into Manassas while Chris headed home for Maryland, just north of DC. I had a smile on my face as I/we had a great day riding. I had put on over 340 miles on my wonderful PC that Sunday day. I didn't quite make it home before sunrise as I got home shortly after dark. I think the average temperature must have been about 40 degrees that day. But it was sure nice to go for a ride!!!! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Thfwsf@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:12:06 -0500 Sorry I missed it. It sounds like great fun, sorta. The weather was cool, but I'm sure the company was warm. What concerns me is, if I ever go on some of these groupie rides, must I also do "75 to 80mph for about 110 miles?" If so, I must only go on the rides in my mind. I almost never do 80, and only for very brief periods, like for getting out of some pitifully hopless traffic flow. (And I always mildly rebuke myself for it afterwards.) I would like to join other Coasters for good times. But I would like to travel comfortably, as well. Is this possible? Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com [mailto:Thfwsf@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:07 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long I met Chris at the Cracker Barrel at our designated time of 10:00am. Chris had commandeered a table for us. We sat down and talked for a few minutes and enjoyed a few cups of coffee before we departed on our way. As usual, at least everytime I've seen him, Chris had a big Ol' grin across his face. It must be the PC in him. We headed out on our way at about 10:30 and headed south on 28, and on to 29. It was a bit chilly out as our hands and feet became a bit chilled, but bearable. We stopped for Gas outside of Madison, VA and revised our route to make a little better time. We wanted to get back before dark. At that point I wasn't wearing my helmet liner, and decided it was a good idea to put it on. For a $12 investment, a simple helmet liner really makes a BIG difference in cool weather riding. After our brief stop, we hit the road and headed on down to Natural Bridge. It's been awhile since I've taken a ride in the country side. It's amazing how brown everything is when it lays dormant during the winter. In my head I imagined how nice this country side would look in the spring and or summer. Nice green vegetation growing on the hills with a nice warm summer sun. On route 28 we went by a few Livestock farms. It brought back the old smells I remember from my childhood when I lived in Illinois. I find a ride is always a good time to reflect on ones thoughts. Clears the mind and makes the soul feel good. On we went.... We made it down to Natural Bridge in the early afternoon. We took off our riding gear and made our way into the tourist attraction, paid the admission and enjoyed the scenery. The Natural Bridge itself is something. A large natural bridge that has some good height. We did our little walk up the path by the Saltpeter Cave and to the mild waterfalls and worked our way back. A nice stroll in the cool air. I was just wearing a sweatshirt and sort of wished I had decided to keep my jacket on. I was still a little chilled from the ride. After the little self-guided tour and some PC orientated gossip we headed back to the parking lot. Chris assisted a tourist in finding Lurray Caverns and I decided to snap a couple of photo's of our bikes, along with Chris helping out the tourist. After that brief interlude, we hopped back on our bikes and headed to a little restaurant near the highway I had seen on the way in. We got to the restaurant and had some quick warm grub. Chris had visions of a Denny's Grand Slam breakfast and I just wanted something warm. Since they weren't serving breakfast, Chris settled for some soup and a cheeseburger. I had myself a French dip. I made sure I soaked my sandwich in the warm juice that came with my sandwich. After getting our bellies full, we went across the street filled up the PC's and headed out on the interstate. We took 81 north to 66. Even though we were on the interstate, It was nice just to look around and see the hills in the surrounding country side. Once again, I imagined what it would look like if trees, grass and other fauna had started to turn it's spring colors. On we went.... We cruised along at about 75 to 80mph for about 110 miles before we stopped and gassed our PC's once again. Then it hammered it on home for the remaining miles. We honked our horns as I pulled off on 234 and headed back into Manassas while Chris headed home for Maryland, just north of DC. I had a smile on my face as I/we had a great day riding. I had put on over 340 miles on my wonderful PC that Sunday day. I didn't quite make it home before sunrise as I got home shortly after dark. I think the average temperature must have been about 40 degrees that day. But it was sure nice to go for a ride!!!! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" iPCRC #1001 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:20:07 -0500 From: "John T. Quinn" To: Arvid Lřvik CC: PC 800 LIST Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden WOW! Hope she's a Pacific Coast rider! Arvid Lřvik wrote: > > http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg > > > Regards > > Arvid Lřvik > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 > 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" > 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 > 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer > My Home page is at: > http://lovik.tripod.com > .................................................. > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen > 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com > > My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) > My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 > Arvid Lřvik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:24:31 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:25:51 -0500 To: Arvid =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik?= From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Cc: "PC 800 LIST" At 2:12 AM +0100 2/6/01, Arvid L=F8vik wrote: >http://195.18.205.154/~bo= rgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg > > Thanks for the picture Arvid. I wonder if I could paint my PC like that? fsl -- =46rancois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada , but currently in Chicago, IL 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:25:27 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:33:36 -0600 Hi Arvid. Tell Torill to be extra careful when riding with her new leathers. Protection looks a little less than could be needed on the road. I hope Torill's fit as well. I know you enjoy helping her in and out of them. Send more pictures. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Arvid Lřvik" http://195.18.205.154/~borgeb/messa/P1270577.jpg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 23:51:00 -0800 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners , pacificcoast@yahoogroups.com Subject: PC800: '98 Serial numbers Hi Coasters and Y2Kers, For those of you struggling to get to your '98 PCs VIN number, try taking it off your vehicle registration or insurance card. The VIN number should be there and it is easier than trying to get down under the front end to see the manufacturers plate. So far, the highest California model (RC341) is number 57 and the highest non-CA model (RC340) is 411. Thanks to everybody that has responded so far. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 156000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 34000 miles PCRC #72 PC800 Owner's Registry: http://www.pc800registry.org Mother of all PC800 Web Site Lists: http://www.pc800links.net 2001 PC800 Pacific Coast Ride: http://www.pcpch.org Complete PC800 Parts List: http://www.pc800parts.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Cc: "TransalpList" Subject: PC800: Survey. Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:05:10 -0500 I send thanks to those who responded to my simple survey of owners of both a Transalp and a Pacific Coast. There were seven who had both in their household at one time or another. Some, like myself, even had both at the same time! -eddie transalp1@mindspring.com 1996 PC800T Pacific Coast 1989 XL600V Transalp -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 06:28:21 -0500 Subject: PC800: Just Checking To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Just trying to figure out where my email is going from the list. It seems to have stopped coming to my address around 3:30 on 2/5, but I checked Emile's site and see there have been messages since then. No need to replay to this message, but I do still get mail at this address. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= , Cc: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:38:12 -0500 >>WOW! Hope she's a Pacific Coast rider! I Imagine she is... with all the plastic she's sporting...;-) Mike Whited -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:46:10 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "MTW" , "PC800" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= , Cc: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:45:57 -0600 I think it's wonderful when list members work so hard to keep us abreast of developments. We are true bosom buddies. I'm glad I got this off my chest. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" Subject: Re: PC800: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden > >>WOW! Hope she's a Pacific Coast rider! > > > > > > I Imagine she is... > > with all the plastic she's sporting...;-) > > Mike Whited -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 06:28:21 -0500 Subject: PC800: Just Checking To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Just trying to figure out where my email is going from the list. It seems to have stopped coming to my address around 3:30 on 2/5, but I checked Emile's site and see there have been messages since then. No need to replay to this message, but I do still get mail at this address. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:22:32 -0500 Subject: PC800: Testing again To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Please be patient Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:27:23 -0600 (CST) From: donk@centrinity.com This message is a test on behalf of Tim Davies at Seneca Falls Central School. We are trying to identify the source of non-delivery to determine whether it is at your server or his. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:36:51 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Woops. And a suggestion. Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:36:51 -0300 Damn!, I rode 3 years on naked bikes without a fall or even a tip over, and on my first week on the PC I managed to drop it!!! My rear tired needed to be changed, but the dealer didn't have 140/80/15 in stock. So, I *knew* I was driving with my rear feeling a little "loose". Arriving to my ex-wife's home, I turn left at the corner eeeasy (it was wet) approached the garage door, brake and woops! 5mph lowside to the right. Result: right front protector "wing" scratched, right mirror off (it snapped of 3 tabs like it was intended to work that way) and lightly scratched, and (this is the worst) right side of the trunk scratched. I bolted and rewired the mirror/light, I'll replace the gray plastic protector ($50...) and I'll send the plastic side of the trunk to repaint (it's flat black and the guy at the paint shop told me is easy to match) ($80 more). The protector below the trunk just snapped off and is not even scratched. It obviously don't work as expected (protecting the side of the trunk) so I bought a set of bumper protectors (common in car accesory stores) and put them in the sides. The look good (they're made of thick, black rubber and are autoadhesive) and sure they'll come to the floor first in case of another incident. (Not that I'm planing to go down again ) I also changed (at least!) the rear tire. Well, as the say goes, there are two kind of riders: The ones who had been down, and the ones who are going down. (and I'm both!) Keep the plastic side up, Juanro 94 PC800 lightly scratched Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:38:38 -0500 Subject: PC800: Here we test again To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Sorry,but I'm on the phone with tech support now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'donk@centrinity.com'" , "'PC800 Rider'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Testing Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:46:59 -0500 Yes, I noticed that I too had very few messages from the list within the last 18 hours, or so. Far fewer than normal. Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: donk@centrinity.com [mailto:donk@centrinity.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: This message is a test on behalf of Tim Davies at Seneca Falls Central School. We are trying to identify the source of non-delivery to determine whether it is at your server or his. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:58:58 -0500 From: sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) To: sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us Cc: Thfwsf@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long Saul, There's no need to go fast on "group" rides. Tom and I both were getting cold, and really wanted to be home before dark and even lower temperatures. Before the ride, we talked about our highway speed comfort levels and regardless of which one of us was leading, we stuck to them. If another person had been along, and felt uncomfortable, we'd have moved at their pace. At Americade, the Honda Hoot, Skyline Chili Rally, and Chris Carstonjen's New England tour, speeds rarely exceeded the posted limit. Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, enjoy the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD -- Chris Russell-Wood Silver Spring, Maryland 1997 PC 800 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth Winter" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: PC800: Sidecar question...NON PC related Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:22:14 -0500 In the past I have corresponded with a few list members that also have = Sidecar rigs. It is time to replace my rear tire on the sidecar, the bike. I have = spoken to several other hack riders that have put square profile tires = on the rigs. I failed to write down any names or suppliers. Can = anyone share info with me about this?? Kenneth Winter 1990 PC=20 1985 Night Hawk with CA side car =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:16:49 -0500 Subject: PC800: Thanks for helping To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Thanks to those of you who sent me mail directly telling me my mail to the list was getting there as it should. It looks like the list mail is getting back to me again now. Just delete all those other message I have sent, sorry to clutter you email boxes with digital trash. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:16:40 EST Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long To: , Cc: Nicely put Chris! Same sentiments here. Tom Fraser In a message dated Tue, 6 Feb 2001 8:59:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) writes: << Saul, There's no need to go fast on "group" rides. Tom and I both were getting cold, and really wanted to be home before dark and even lower temperatures. Before the ride, we talked about our highway speed comfort levels and regardless of which one of us was leading, we stuck to them. If another person had been along, and felt uncomfortable, we'd have moved at their pace. At Americade, the Honda Hoot, Skyline Chili Rally, and Chris Carstonjen's New England tour, speeds rarely exceeded the posted limit. Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, enjoy the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD -- Chris Russell-Wood Silver Spring, Maryland 1997 PC 800 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:47:03 -0600 From: David Sigsbee To: Will Edwards , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. According to the November 2000 oil article in Motorcycle Consumer News, there is/can be a leak problem connected with synthetic oil (on p.22, column 2, third paragraph). The say that some synthetic base stock can shrink some seal materials and other base stock can cause seals to swell. They go on to say that the Mobil I Tri-Synthetic combines these base stocks to get the best characteristics of each, including, I presume, the correct effect on seals. And more. FWIW. David Will Edwards wrote: > I am not an mechanic, but from personal use I don't think the type of oil > has anything to do with a leak. Many years ago when the first Mobil One > came out there might have been a problem, but it's been changed. Even then > at that time I had already been using synthetic oil (can't remember the > brand) without any problems. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > Washington state http://wills-domain.com > 96 PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > . > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jesus Soriano" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:55 AM > Subject: PC800: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. > > > My 95 PC started leaking oil a couple of months ago. > > Just a few drops every night, not enough to spend the > > US $800 that the dealer wanted (even the mechanic said > > it wasn't serious enough to do it at this time). > > > > Anyway, today I received the new Barnett clutch that I > > plan to have install next week. I have read that the > > time to change to synthetic oil is when you have the > > clutch replaced, but I also seem to recall that if you > > have an oil leak it's better to stick to non-synthetic > > oils, so my question is this: Should I change to > > synthetic oil despite the oil leak or will I be better > > off continuing with regular oil?. > > > > I have used Spectrum 10-40 for the past 50K without > > any problems (except the occasional clutch slip that I > > attribute to weak springs). > > > > Thank you for your input. > > > > Jesus Soriano, > > '95 PC "Raquel" > > San Diego, California. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:19:17 -0600 From: David Sigsbee To: PC800 PC800 Subject: PC800: PC800 engine oil pressure report Hey PCers-- About a month ago I installed a VDO oil pressure gauge on my bike. The VDO sensor is mounted on a diagonal frame member and a capillary tube with compression fittings runs from the VDO sensor to the hole for the idiot light sensor (which, of course, I removed), and the tubing is connected with compression fittings. The gauge itself resides loosely inside of the fuel filler compartment until I decide where to mount it permanently. I wanted to report to the group the oil pressure readings I am getting as recorded last saturday (a fairly warm day plus Widder clothing).. Keep in mind that the VDO gauge is not highly detailed in its markings so it can be difficult to distinguish between something like 57 and 56 pounds of pressure. So everything here is to be interpreted as +/- a couple of pounds. Some info--(1) I am at present using Mobil 1 15W-50 oil and have recently installed a new Honda filter. (2) The temps were recorded at operating temperature, i.e., the temperature needle about 1/4 of the way up the gauge; air temperature in the 40s. (3) According to the shop manual, this engine should have 64 pounds of pressure at 6000 rpm. (4) The engine has 22,000 miles on it and appears to be in good working order. My oil pressure readings: 6000 rpm 66 pounds 5000 rpm 62 pounds 4000 rpm 56 pounds 3000 rpm 40 pounds 2000 rpm 22 pounds idle 18 pounds I guess the only suprise to me was how low the pressure gets at 2000 rpm and lower. My car, an 86 Mercury with a 5 liter V8, is 55 pounds at anything much above idle and 40 pounds at idle. --David -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:48:17 -0500 Subject: Re(2): RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" I agree with Chris 100%. I was the last one in the pack at my first Deal's Gap experience and I didn't start out at the end. Those who were faster and felt more comfortable just took advantage of the space I gave them to pass me when they approaced my "back door". I had more fun in the rear running at my own pace than trying to keep up with the leaders of the pack. We all got to the same destination with in seconds of each other and had a good time doing it. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" Thfwsf@aol.com writes: >Nicely put Chris! Same sentiments here. > >Tom Fraser > >In a message dated Tue, 6 Feb 2001 8:59:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, >sail2xs1@netscape.net (Christopher Russell-Wood) writes: > ><< Saul, > >There's no need to go fast on "group" rides. Tom and I both were getting cold, >and really wanted to be home before dark and even lower temperatures. Before >the ride, we talked about our highway speed comfort levels and regardless of >which one of us was leading, we stuck to them. If another person had been >along, and felt uncomfortable, we'd have moved at their pace. > >At Americade, the Honda Hoot, Skyline Chili Rally, and Chris Carstonjen's New >England tour, speeds rarely exceeded the posted limit. > >Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, enjoy >the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. > >Take care, > >Chris Russell-Wood >1997 PC 800 "Footloose" >Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:08:40 -0500 Subject: PC800: Americade 2001 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" If anyone is planning on being at Americade in Lake George, NY on Wednesday, June 6, 2001 you are invited to dine with fellow Pacific Coast riders and friends at 7 PM. We will probably be at the Barnsider Restaurant again this year, but I can't make any reservations until they reopen in April. It's easy to get to, the food is good and the prices are right. This will be the 3rd Annual Americade dinner for PC800 riders and lovers. Email me directly if you want to be included on an email list of definite and possible diners. When I have the final information I'll post it to a web site like I did last year. If you want o see the menu and prices you can check out http://www.barnsider.com Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id A10F5B20052; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:31:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: , Subject: RE: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:44:33 -0800 Importance: Normal I Just bought Honda HP4 oil at the dealer which is a synthetic blend oil... So if honda is selling it I would think it is ok to put in your PC engine -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of W7KJD@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:47 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil Received the message copied below from a non-pc800 owner who wanted to write me about his recent riding experience -- makes the worry about synthetic oil seem inconsequential. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC ========================================================== Good Morning Gordon: Hope all is well with you. Do you have any knowledge about the status of value for the PC 800's. Later today I will let my insurance company know what my decision will be if I plan on keeping my bike. Since August 11, I have been in over ten events which have totally changed my life. It started with being robbed in the supermarket up in Dover at noon hour. Then five days later, I was a victim of a hit and run driver on Constitution/Pennsylvania Avenues in DC at 6:10 in the morning. The motorcycle was totaled and I walked away from it all. Since then many (11) other things happened, like two road rage events, a lady hitting my truck on New York Ave, two different times 18 wheelers running me off the roads, and ending with a bullet coming through my windshield several weeks ago here in Delaware. However I had another accident with my motorcycle on Dec 7. DC highway department failed to put up signs stating uneven payment ahead. Since I was over an hour late leaving work, the commuter traffic was crazy so I decided to get over three lanes to the right so that I could be in the slower traffic. Well that was a mistake, a mile up the road (the top two inches of pavement was removed). After making the drop down to China and trying to keep the bike up right for about 300 feet, I started bouncing off (three times) the front tire of a large food service truck beside me, until I hit the road. They thought that they drove over me. Anyway, five police cars, three fire trucks, two ambulances and one and a half hours later, I with only one leg continued my 84 mile ride home to Viola. Went to the hospital the next morning. I am now looking for a lawyer and DC. The results was a broken tendon on my left collar bone, a broken rib next to my heart, and pulled ligaments in my left knee. Continue having problems with my knee (two different braces day and night). So much for all of this crap. All I wonder is "What is next? For the past 12 years I have been putting on over 27,000 miles per year on the bike. Really enjoyed it. But coming within 1/2 inch of getting my head run over by a truck is too close. Must call the physical therapist now. Missed my appointment yesterday. Thought that if was for today. Help! Yes I have been working just about every day. Had to take a three week vacation at the end of the year. Good Day if honda=20 is selling it I would think it is ok to put in your PC=20 engine
    -----Original Message-----
    From: = owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of=20 W7KJD@aol.com
    Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:47=20 PM
    To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
    Subject: PC800: Don't = Worry About=20 Synthetic Oil

    Received the message copied below from a non-pc800 owner who = wanted=20
    to write me about his recent riding experience -- makes the worry = about=20
    synthetic oil seem inconsequential.

    Gordon Creed
    96 = PC800=20 MISSION
    Washington, DC=20 =
    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
    Good=20 Morning Gordon:

    Hope all is well with you.  Do you have = any=20 knowledge about the status
    of value for the PC 800's.  Later = today I=20 will let my insurance company
    know what my decision will be if I = plan on=20 keeping my bike.

    Since August 11, I have been in over ten = events which=20 have totally
    changed my life.  It started with being robbed = in the=20 supermarket up in
    Dover at noon hour.  Then five days later, = I was a=20 victim of a hit and
    run driver on Constitution/Pennsylvania = Avenues in DC=20 at 6:10 in the
    morning.  The motorcycle was totaled and I = walked away=20 from it all.

    Since then many (11) other things happened, like = two road=20 rage events, a
    lady hitting my truck on New York Ave, two = different times=20 18 wheelers
    running me off the roads, and ending with a bullet = coming=20 through my
    windshield several weeks ago here in Delaware. =

    However=20 I had another accident with my motorcycle on Dec 7.  DC highway=20
    department failed to put up signs  stating uneven payment=20 ahead.  Since
    I was over an hour late leaving work, the = commuter=20 traffic was crazy so
    I decided to get over three lanes to the = right so=20 that I could be in the
    slower traffic.  Well that was a = mistake, a=20 mile up the road (the top
    two inches of pavement was = removed).  After=20 making the drop down to
    China and trying to keep the bike up right = for=20 about 300 feet, I started
    bouncing off (three times) the front = tire of a=20 large food service truck
    beside me,  until I hit the = road.  They=20 thought that they drove over me.
    Anyway, five police cars, three = fire=20 trucks, two ambulances and one and
    a half hours later, I with only = one leg=20 continued my 84 mile ride home
    to Viola.  Went to the = hospital the=20 next morning.  I am now looking for
    a lawyer and DC. The = results was=20 a broken tendon on my left collar bone,
    a broken rib next to my = heart, and=20 pulled ligaments in my left knee.
    Continue having problems with my = knee=20 (two different braces day and
    night).

    So much for all of = this=20 crap.  All I wonder is "What is next?  For the
    past 12 = years I=20 have been putting on over 27,000 miles per year on the
    bike.  = Really=20 enjoyed it.  But coming within 1/2 inch of getting my head =
    run over=20 by a truck is too close.

    Must call the physical therapist = now. =20 Missed my appointment yesterday.
    Thought that if was for = today. =20 Help!
    Yes I have been working just about every day.  Had to = take a=20 three week
    vacation at the end of the year.

    Good Day=20

    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "D.J." Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:07:47 -0500 The HP4 oil should be okay for the PC800. But, other Honda models have come with instructions not to use it (very odd) because of clutch durability problems. i.e. ST1100. -eddie -----Original Message----- From: D.J. To: W7KJD@aol.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil I Just bought Honda HP4 oil at the dealer which is a synthetic blend oil... So if honda is selling it I would think it is ok to put in your PC engine -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of W7KJD@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:47 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil Received the message copied below from a non-pc800 owner who wanted to write me about his recent riding experience -- makes the worry about synthetic oil seem inconsequential. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC ========================================================== Good Morning Gordon: Hope all is well with you. Do you have any knowledge about the status of value for the PC 800's. Later today I will let my insurance company know what my decision will be if I plan on keeping my bike. Since August 11, I have been in over ten events which have totally changed my life. It started with being robbed in the supermarket up in Dover at noon hour. Then five days later, I was a victim of a hit and run driver on Constitution/Pennsylvania Avenues in DC at 6:10 in the morning. The motorcycle was totaled and I walked away from it all. Since then many (11) other things happened, like two road rage events, a lady hitting my truck on New York Ave, two different times 18 wheelers running me off the roads, and ending with a bullet coming through my windshield several weeks ago here in Delaware. However I had another accident with my motorcycle on Dec 7. DC highway department failed to put up signs stating uneven payment ahead. Since I was over an hour late leaving work, the commuter traffic was crazy so I decided to get over three lanes to the right so that I could be in the slower traffic. Well that was a mistake, a mile up the road (the top two inches of pavement was removed). After making the drop down to China and trying to keep the bike up right for about 300 feet, I started bouncing off (three times) the front tire of a large food service truck beside me, until I hit the road. They thought that they drove over me. Anyway, five police cars, three fire trucks, two ambulances and one and a half hours later, I with only one leg continued my 84 mile ride home to Viola. Went to the hospital the next morning. I am now looking for a lawyer and DC. The results was a broken tendon on my left collar bone, a broken rib next to my heart, and pulled ligaments in my left knee. Continue having problems with my knee (two different braces day and night). So much for all of this crap. All I wonder is "What is next? For the past 12 years I have been putting on over 27,000 miles per year on the bike. Really enjoyed it. But coming within 1/2 inch of getting my head run over by a truck is too close. Must call the physical therapist now. Missed my appointment yesterday. Thought that if was for today. Help! Yes I have been working just about every day. Had to take a three week vacation at the end of the year. Good Day -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:27:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:27:26 EST Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) In a message dated 2/2/01 6:16:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, Emile@Piloot.com writes: << From: xcontrol@erols.com >Can someone tell me more what the sound is? You know how an old VW beetle sounds ? Well that's it.. >> That noise is known as "Fweem", and is highly prized by many Volkswagen enthusiasts. For a sample, visit the Fweematorium at: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/5901/ --Rusty J. Ogden, Utah '89 PC800 - The Pale Horse (The shallow '89 rear fender won't clear tire chains - guess I must walk for a couple of days...) '80 VW Vanagon Campmobile - The Vanagon Valdiz (Leaks oil like a grounded supertanker; engine rebuild in progress, so I walk.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:02:51 -0500 Subject: Re(2): Re(2): PC800: volkswagen sound To: Roq8cyans@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" Thanks Rusty! It's always nice to have an "official" name for those crazy sounds we hear from time to time. If I'd know that before I have my warranty replacement of the muffler last year I'd have made some audio recordings to sell on the Internet... "Fween Rhapsody" Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" Roq8cyans@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/2/01 6:16:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, Emile@Piloot.com >writes: > ><< From: xcontrol@erols.com > >Can someone tell me more what the sound is? > > You know how an old VW beetle sounds ? Well > that's it.. >> > >That noise is known as "Fweem", and is highly prized by many Volkswagen >enthusiasts. For a sample, visit the Fweematorium at: >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/5901/ > >--Rusty J. > Ogden, Utah > '89 PC800 - The Pale Horse (The shallow '89 rear fender won't > clear tire chains - guess I must walk for a couple of days...) > '80 VW Vanagon Campmobile - The Vanagon Valdiz (Leaks oil like a > grounded supertanker; engine rebuild in progress, so I walk.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: David Sigsbee cc: Will Edwards , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Oil leak/Clutch/Synthetic Oil. of "Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:47:03 CST." <3A800E67.BC214A69@memphis.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:41:11 -0600 David Sigsbee writes: > According to the November 2000 oil article in Motorcycle Consumer News, there > is/can be a leak problem connected with synthetic oil (on p.22, column 2, > third paragraph). The say that some synthetic base stock can shrink some seal > materials and other base stock can cause seals to swell. They go on to say > that the Mobil I Tri-Synthetic combines these base stocks to get the best > characteristics of each, including, I presume, the correct effect on seals. > And more. FWIW. *Any* motor oil can cause seal shrinkage problems. It wasn't until a pure synthetic was put to widespread use in older engines that the seal problem ever appeared. So now the synthetic makers know they have to design for similar seal swelling characteristics. And the good refined oil makers now know they have to pay attention to something they previously ignored. All of this is pretty dated. At least 20 or 25 years. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:13:05 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Entertainment (non PC) If you ever wondered if the cold freezes the brain cells in some of us, you might be right. One man's brush with death is an Alaskan's joy ride. :-) Rescued snowmachiner no stranger to crevasses By Craig Medred Anchorage Daily News (Published February 4, 2001) Want a free, tricked out, top-of-the-line Polaris 800 RMK snowmobile? Go rent a metal detector and head for the junction of the Isabel and College glaciers on the south side of the Alaska Range. Oh yeah, you better take some rope, too. How much rope? Well, Darrin Freeman of Fairbanks, who once owned this $9,000 snowmachine but now confesses to having abandoned it to the ice gods, isn't sure. He knows you'll need more than 30 feet, because that's where he luckily stopped on a ledge after falling down the crevasse. The snowmobile kept going. Freeman admits he didn't spend a lot of time looking down while waiting to be rescued last week. Just out of curiosity, though, he did drop some chunks of ice down into the crevasse. "I couldn't hear them land down there," he said. "It was ... definitely wild." But hey, this doesn't necessarily mean anything. His snowmachine could have wedged itself in the crevasse, as Freeman did, somewhere well short of the bottom. You figure, a couple guys, some ropes, some pulleys, some pickets and ice screws, and this snowmachine can be salvaged. And since a glacier is nothing but frozen water, this has to be a situation where the age-old law of the sea applies: Finders keepers. Freeman said he's satisfied to collect what he can on his insurance and leave it at that. After his second fall into a crevasse, he's decided to take a year off from the glacier riding, or -- more accurately -- his wife and the mother of his three children has told him he will take a year off. "My wife says absolutely," Freeman said. His second crevasse crash apparently rattled her. Yes, you read right, this isn't the first time something like this has happened to Freeman. He has a steel plate and four screws in his arm, a reminder of the last time he put a snowmobile in a glacial crevasse. "That one was probably 40 feet (deep)," he said, "but it had a bottom. I could walk out." Mountaineers who annually troop toward the summit of 20,320-foot Mount McKinley rope up when traveling on glaciers to avoid crevasse falls like this. The snowmobilers from Fairbanks don't seem to consider ropes necessary. Neither Freeman nor his three riding buddies bothered to take a climbing rope along when they went cruising the glaciers north of Summit Lake. That, of course, left Freeman in something of a fix when he disappeared into the glacier. "They did have a 45-foot, like, parachute cord," Freeman said. "They tied that around a Sunny Delight (drink) and tossed that down to me. As soon as that rope came down, I tied it right around my chest." Imagine trusting your life to the strength of a piece of parachute cord. That's exactly what Freeman did for four hours while waiting for his friends to get help. They, of course, had that most important of Alaska survival tools with them -- a cellular phone. Thanks to that technology, it wasn't long before the U.S. Army sent a rescue helicopter from Fort Wainwright to Freeman's aid. "That parachute cord came in handy" after the Army arrived, Freeman said. Rescuers were able to use it as a lead line to tie to a climbing rope and harness. Freeman was then able to pull the rescue gear into the crevasse. He put on the harness, and the helicopter than hoisted him out. "It was wild," Freeman said. Yes, indeed, it sounds like it was. Has Freeman learned anything from this? Maybe yes, maybe no. He suggests snowmobilers might want to stay off the glaciers now. "Not enough snow this year," he said. "Too much wind. Too much rain. Too many variables. "You just never know. You've got to stay off them until later in the year. You're just gambling now." But later, well, you know, it's just hard to stay away. "It's definitely an adrenaline rush riding out there," Freeman said. "We'll be back. You get to know (the glaciers). I thought I knew. I was just up a little higher than I should have been. It was one of the first rides of the year. I was like the guide." The guide decided to leave the group to see how high his snowmobile would climb on a steep part of the glacier. "It takes a hell of a sled to be up there," Freeman said. "It was a special order. I ordered it a year ahead of time. Over 140 horsepower. You can go a long way fast." And so he went, climbing, climbing, climbing. "It's got to be over a 45 degree angle," Freeman said. "The blue ice and the crevasses were all off to the right." Or at least the visible crevasses were off to the right. The crevasses covered by thin snow bridges were obviously, as it turned out, in Freeman's path. There's a little secret you need to know here: Ice doesn't bend well. It is not plastic like snow. When a river of ice goes over a hill, it tends to crack. "Crevace" is the French word for crack from which originated the term "crevasse." The sort of slope up which Freeman aimed his snowmobile is where a knowledgeable mountaineer would expect to find crevasses. "The machine was climbing real good," Freeman said. "It was hooking up. I just shot up a chute and was going to do a highmark up there and come back ... and then everything just disappeared." As always happens when climbing like this, the snowmobile started to lose momentum, and Freeman went to turn back. The next thing he knew he was tumbling down into that hole in the ice. "What an adventure, man," he said. "Unbelievable. I'm lucky." He hit one ledge, bounced off and then landed on another. "The walls were so sheer and smooth," he said, "there was just no way I was climbing out." So he waited to be rescued. So he can go back again and do it another time. Wild man. Really wild. Craig Medred is the Daily News outdoors editor and an opinion columnist. Juan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:35:40 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Woops. And a suggestion. To: pc800black@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Juanro, Couldn't you have picked a better place than the ex-wife's place? My poor man, not only the damage to the bike, but pride as well. Glad you are all right. Bill Richardson (All my ex'es live in Texas) 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 6 Feb 01 18:59:43 PST From: David Orlich To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. Life and Near-Death in L.A. January 15, 2001 Typical cool mid-January evening as I head home from work, guiding the Pacific Coast through the West L.A. side streets. My headlights flash o= ver strollers and joggers, palm trees and exotic flowers along the dark lengt= h of La Grange Ave., running for the 405 freeway. I pop out of the darkness f= or a moment as I cross the six lanes of Sepulveda, watching carefully for patr= ons exiting the cardio-kickboxing gyms that populate the area. All clear, and I get ready to turn right onto Cotner, a dark backstree= t that will change into the 405 on-ramp. As I approach the stop sign I hear the scream of a high-performance engin= e really cranking and a silver Ferrari flys through the intersection doing = at least 70 mph. My head swivels to track the Ferrari, thinking "Damn, that= 's stupid on this street". Then I hear a slight crump of metal and the car = jerks to the right. "Ha!" I think, "He clipped those SUV's!" And then I see a body flying through the air, arms and legs pinwheeling. God, he flew so high...seven feet at least. And then the soft thud of th= e body hitting the ground. "No no NO..." Not denying what I had seen, just so sad that I had just s= een a pedestrian get whacked. And disbelieving the driver could be so stupid. = I turn the corner slowly and sure enough a crumpled body is lying in the ce= nter of the street. It's only been seconds but a thin stream of blood is alre= ady trickling down the street from where his face is pressed hard into the pavement. I make a decision. Nothing I can do to help him, but where's the car tha= t did it? I roll up fast to where the Ferrari has stopped in the darkness.= No license plate, as usual...just a dealer ad on a brand-new car. I pop = the trunk on my Pacific Coast and drop my helmet in, searching for my cell phone. The Ferrari's door opens and a face peers out. "Did I...what..."= "Get out of the car!" I yell. "Get out of the car and call for help!"= I am having flashbacks to when my 750 was rear-ended by a drunk driver, who= sped off leaving me (intact) in the road. "I'm trying!" I start down the road to where the body is being shelte= red by the car that was following me. Ironic. The only place on Cotner that= is lit by streetlights and the body is lying right in the middle of the ligh= t. = He's still alive...his legs jerk spasmodically every few seconds. But he= 's bad...so bad. Eventually the paramedics come. They do what they can for the victim, pa= ck him up and wash away the blood. Through it all the driver stays in the darkness next to his car, talking on the phone the whole time. Never com= es near the victim...near the damage he has done. I thought the victim might be one of the homeless that live along Cotner.= But he turned out to be a bass player for two L.A. area bands...successfu= l ones. January 31, 2001 I get a call from the victim's lawyer. He made it. He= just came out of his coma today after two weeks. He is a mess...multiple= brain surgeries, and they haven't even started on his leg traumas yet. B= ut he's alive and awake. The driver is said to wield considerable power in L.A....and has been cha= rged with NOTHING. HELL YES I'LL TESTIFY! David Orlich and Judith Herring 1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton K. Hammond" To: "David Orlich" , Subject: RE: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:20:37 -0500 Importance: Normal David; >HELL YES I'LL TESTIFY! Good man! Give 'em hell! Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. ( elton.hammond@ekho.com ) President The EKHO Institute ( www.ekho.com ) Autodesk Premier Training Center Award Winning Training (613) 822-6935 EKHO Memory Strips ( http://www.ekho.com/EKHO_STRIPS/EKHO_Strips.htm ) >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of >David Orlich >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:00 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. > > >Life and Near-Death in L.A. >January 15, 2001 > >Typical cool mid-January evening as I head home from work, guiding the >Pacific Coast through the West L.A. side streets. My headlights >flash over >strollers and joggers, palm trees and exotic flowers along the >dark length of >La Grange Ave., running for the 405 freeway. I pop out of the >darkness for a >moment as I cross the six lanes of Sepulveda, watching carefully >for patrons >exiting the cardio-kickboxing gyms that populate the area. > All clear, and I get ready to turn right onto Cotner, a dark backstreet >that will change into the 405 on-ramp. > >As I approach the stop sign I hear the scream of a high-performance engine >really cranking and a silver Ferrari flys through the intersection doing at >least 70 mph. My head swivels to track the Ferrari, thinking "Damn, that's >stupid on this street". Then I hear a slight crump of metal and >the car jerks >to the right. "Ha!" I think, "He clipped those SUV's!" > >And then I see a body flying through the air, arms and legs pinwheeling. >God, he flew so high...seven feet at least. And then the soft thud of the >body hitting the ground. > >"No no NO..." Not denying what I had seen, just so sad that I had >just seen a >pedestrian get whacked. And disbelieving the driver could be so stupid. I >turn the corner slowly and sure enough a crumpled body is lying in >the center >of the street. It's only been seconds but a thin stream of blood >is already >trickling down the street from where his face is pressed hard into the >pavement. > >I make a decision. Nothing I can do to help him, but where's the car that >did it? I roll up fast to where the Ferrari has stopped in the darkness. >No license plate, as usual...just a dealer ad on a brand-new car. >I pop the >trunk on my Pacific Coast and drop my helmet in, searching for my cell >phone. The Ferrari's door opens and a face peers out. "Did I...what..." > "Get out of the car!" I yell. "Get out of the car and call for >help!" I >am having flashbacks to when my 750 was rear-ended by a drunk >driver, who sped >off leaving me (intact) in the road. > "I'm trying!" I start down the road to where the body is being >sheltered >by the car that was following me. Ironic. The only place on >Cotner that is >lit by streetlights and the body is lying right in the middle of >the light. >He's still alive...his legs jerk spasmodically every few seconds. But he's >bad...so bad. > >Eventually the paramedics come. They do what they can for the victim, pack >him up and wash away the blood. Through it all the driver stays in the >darkness next to his car, talking on the phone the whole time. Never comes >near the victim...near the damage he has done. > >I thought the victim might be one of the homeless that live along Cotner. >But he turned out to be a bass player for two L.A. area bands...successful >ones. > >January 31, 2001 I get a call from the victim's lawyer. He made it. He >just came out of his coma today after two weeks. He is a mess...multiple >brain surgeries, and they haven't even started on his leg traumas yet. But >he's alive and awake. > >The driver is said to wield considerable power in L.A....and has >been charged >with NOTHING. > >HELL YES I'LL TESTIFY! > > >David Orlich and Judith Herring >1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at >http://home.netscape.com/webmail >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:33:34 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Christopher Russell-Wood" , Cc: , Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:32:50 -0600 You gotta understand that Coasters are like horses. At the end of the day when the barn is in sight, we gallop. Right, Mark? Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Christopher Russell-Wood" > Saul, > > There's no need to go fast on "group" rides> > Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, enjoy the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. > > Take care, > > Chris Russell-Wood -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton K. Hammond" To: "PC800 Rider" , Subject: RE: PC800: Americade 2001 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:53:54 -0500 Importance: Normal Tim; I posted this note (edited version) on my PC800 schedule page: http://www.ekho.com/elton/PC800/Motorcycling.html Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. ( elton.hammond@ekho.com ) President The EKHO Institute ( www.ekho.com ) Autodesk Premier Training Center Award Winning Training (613) 822-6935 EKHO Memory Strips ( http://www.ekho.com/EKHO_STRIPS/EKHO_Strips.htm ) >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of >PC800 Rider >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:09 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Americade 2001 > > >If anyone is planning on being at Americade in Lake George, NY on >Wednesday, >June 6, 2001 you are invited to dine with fellow Pacific Coast riders and >friends at 7 PM. We will probably be at the Barnsider Restaurant again this >year, but I can't make any reservations until they reopen in >April. It's easy >to get to, the food is good and the prices are right. This will be the 3rd >Annual Americade dinner for PC800 riders and lovers. > >Email me directly if you want to be included on an email list of >definite and >possible diners. When I have the final information I'll post it to >a web site >like I did last year. If you want o see the menu and prices you >can check out >http://www.barnsider.com > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 >IPCRC #4 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:19:50 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Ralph Couey" , Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:11:30 -0600 Ralph, I think that the polite thing to say here is that as we fell into the rhythm of the trip, we found that there was progress to be made by a judicious application of the right wrist. And progress is a good thing, right? Mark G. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Christopher Russell-Wood" ; Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long > You gotta understand that Coasters are like horses. At the end of the day > when the barn is in sight, we gallop. > > Right, Mark? > > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Russell-Wood" > > > Saul, > > > > There's no need to go fast on "group" rides> > > Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, > enjoy the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. > > > > Take care, > > > > Chris Russell-Wood > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:43:15 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Ride Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:35:58 -0600 For the first time in about 3 weeks, the weather here cooperated. When I got home at 5:00 p.m., the temperature was about 50 and the sky was clear. I changed clothes and went to start the PC. Fired right up (no battery charger, no Sta-Bil, no nothing. Must be a Honda). After letting it warm up for a couple of minutes, I went for a40 mile ride. This was the first "real" test of the new Progressive fork spring and I must say I was impressed. Handled the frost heaves, bad pavement and minor pot holes with surprising ease. I got a chance to ride some fairly twisty pavement, although at a cautious pace because of all the winter debris on the roads. The bike feels much more planted in curves and has lost most of the hinged feeling it had at the end of the summer. It's funny how well the bike seemed to run. When I put it up, I was sure that it needed some carb work and a tune-up. Felt great today, carbureted cleanly, pulled hard and never stumbled. A couple of months of not riding may make any bike seem better. If the weather holds up overnight, I'm thinking of riding to work tomorrow. Lows around freezing but a high promised near 60. WOO-HOOOOOOO. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id A6E0BB5014A; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 22:10:40 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:23:53 -0800 Importance: Normal I have an 89PC with the stock short windshield. I would like to get feedback on any of the aftermarket shields as to which is better and + how many inches. I want to cut down the wind hitting in the chest/neck area and cut down on wind noise... Thanks for the feedback D.J. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:55:30 EST Subject: PC sounds, WAS: RE (3):PC800: volkswagen sound To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/6/01 3:03:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: << It's always nice to have an "official" name for those crazy sounds we hear from time to time. If I'd know that before I have my warranty replacement of the muffler last year I'd have made some audio recordings to sell on the Internet... "Fween Rhapsody >> There are other sounds unique to the PC800 -- the solid "clunk" of shifting into first gear The "pop" of the trunk release, and the car-door-slam of the trunk closing, and, of course... the normal exhaust note (aka "The Sound of Silence") --Rusty J. '89 PC - The Pale (and very quiet) Horse -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:05:19 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC sounds, WAS: RE (3):PC800: volkswagen sound Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:05:18 +0100 > From: Roq8cyans@aol.com[SMTP:Roq8cyans@aol.com] > There are other sounds unique to the PC800 -- > The "pop" of the trunk release > the solid "clunk" of shifting into first gear > That's why it's called the PopClunk 800... duh ! Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:20:09 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" To: DavidOrlich@netscape.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:20:09 -0800 Thanks for the story, David. Glad you weren't on the giving or receiving end of that collision. I hope your testimony will help justice to be served. That would be castration, of course. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster >From: David Orlich >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. >Date: 6 Feb 01 18:59:43 PST > >Life and Near-Death in L.A. >January 15, 2001 > >Typical cool mid-January evening as I head home from work, guiding the >Pacific Coast through the West L.A. side streets. My headlights flash >over >strollers and joggers, palm trees and exotic flowers along the dark length >of >La Grange Ave., running for the 405 freeway. I pop out of the darkness for >a >moment as I cross the six lanes of Sepulveda, watching carefully for >patrons >exiting the cardio-kickboxing gyms that populate the area. > All clear, and I get ready to turn right onto Cotner, a dark backstreet >that will change into the 405 on-ramp. > >As I approach the stop sign I hear the scream of a high-performance engine >really cranking and a silver Ferrari flys through the intersection doing at >least 70 mph. My head swivels to track the Ferrari, thinking "Damn, that's >stupid on this street". Then I hear a slight crump of metal and the car >jerks >to the right. "Ha!" I think, "He clipped those SUV's!" > >And then I see a body flying through the air, arms and legs pinwheeling. >God, he flew so high...seven feet at least. And then the soft thud of the >body hitting the ground. > >"No no NO..." Not denying what I had seen, just so sad that I had just >seen a >pedestrian get whacked. And disbelieving the driver could be so stupid. I >turn the corner slowly and sure enough a crumpled body is lying in the >center >of the street. It's only been seconds but a thin stream of blood is >already >trickling down the street from where his face is pressed hard into the >pavement. > >I make a decision. Nothing I can do to help him, but where's the car that >did it? I roll up fast to where the Ferrari has stopped in the darkness. >No license plate, as usual...just a dealer ad on a brand-new car. I pop >the >trunk on my Pacific Coast and drop my helmet in, searching for my cell >phone. The Ferrari's door opens and a face peers out. "Did I...what..." > "Get out of the car!" I yell. "Get out of the car and call for help!" >I >am having flashbacks to when my 750 was rear-ended by a drunk driver, who >sped >off leaving me (intact) in the road. > "I'm trying!" I start down the road to where the body is being >sheltered >by the car that was following me. Ironic. The only place on Cotner that >is >lit by streetlights and the body is lying right in the middle of the light. >He's still alive...his legs jerk spasmodically every few seconds. But he's >bad...so bad. > >Eventually the paramedics come. They do what they can for the victim, pack >him up and wash away the blood. Through it all the driver stays in the >darkness next to his car, talking on the phone the whole time. Never comes >near the victim...near the damage he has done. > >I thought the victim might be one of the homeless that live along Cotner. >But he turned out to be a bass player for two L.A. area bands...successful >ones. > >January 31, 2001 I get a call from the victim's lawyer. He made it. He >just came out of his coma today after two weeks. He is a mess...multiple >brain surgeries, and they haven't even started on his leg traumas yet. But >he's alive and awake. > >The driver is said to wield considerable power in L.A....and has been >charged >with NOTHING. > >HELL YES I'LL TESTIFY! > > >David Orlich and Judith Herring >1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at >http://home.netscape.com/webmail >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:23:03 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? To: southpaw@bigvalley.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I also have an 89' PC. I bought the Clearview +3. It would really depend if you want to look thru the shield or not. I look just over the +3 and I am 5'11". I also have the Saeng-ta edging on the shield. Gives a little more lift. I find the looks of the +3 alot more visually satisfying than the Clearview +5. Check out my pic from the Starved Rock Ride. You can see what it looks like.I am sure someone has a +5 pic somewhere. Hope this helped! L8ter... Todd Skar "Poseidon" 89'PC 20k Green Bay, WI iPCRC#720
    if you want to look thru the shield or not. I look just over the +3 and
     I am 5'11". I also have the Saeng-ta edging on the shield. Gives a little
    more lift. I find the looks of the +3 alot more visually satisfying than the
    Clearview +5. Check out my pic from the Starved Rock Ride. You can
    see what it looks like.I am sure someone has a +5 pic somewhere. Hope this
    helped! L8ter...


    Todd Skar
    "Poseidon"
    89'PC 20k
    Green Bay, WI
    iPCRC#720     Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bert Satter To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:00:51 +0100 Dear listers, The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of conversion-table, so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so please help me to prevent this! Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese Bert Satter Amersfoort, The Netherlands '89 PC White 'Burtmobile' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:05:43 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" , "'Bert Satter'" Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:05:40 +0100 5000 RPM was volgens mij precies 120 km/h....in z'n 5.. da's de enige die ik nog zeker weet... kom je in ieder geval de snelweg nog op.. : ) Groeten, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club ps spring is in the air here.. > ---------- > From: Bert Satter[SMTP:bert.satter@cinevideogroep.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:00 AM > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > > Dear listers, > > The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. > I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of > conversion-table, > so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. > > Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so > please help > me to prevent this! > > Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese > > Bert Satter > Amersfoort, The Netherlands > '89 PC White > 'Burtmobile' > -- > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 06:19:04 -0500 Subject: Re: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable To: Emile.Nossin@klm.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, bert.satter@cinevideogroep.nl From: "PC800 Rider" Emile.Nossin@klm.nl writes: >5000 RPM was volgens mij precies 120 km/h....in z'n 5.. >da's de enige die ik nog zeker weet... kom je in ieder >geval de snelweg nog op.. : ) >Groeten, > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" >www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club >ps spring is in the air here.. You took the words right out of my mouth Emile:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 06:36:27 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? To: southpaw@bigvalley.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" southpaw@bigvalley.net writes: >I have an 89PC with the stock short windshield. I would like to get >feedback on any of the aftermarket shields as to which is better and + how >many inches. I want to cut down the wind hitting in the chest/neck area and >cut down on wind noise... Thanks for the feedback D.J. > I've had both a Rifle and a Clearview and I like the Clearview better. I'm about 6'1" and with the stock seat I had a +5 Rifle which was just about right (+4 would probably have been even better). I now have a Corbin seat and the +3 Clearview is perfect. The wind hits the very top of my helmet the way I want it to because I have a Nolan N100 with a top vent. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:48:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juanro ." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Woops. And a suggestion. Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:48:43 -0300 >Couldn't you have picked a better place than the ex-wife's place? My poor >man, not only the damage to the bike, but pride as well. >Glad you are all right. And I was coming to pick up my son for a little ride, to show'em how cool I look in my new bike ;-P Instead I spent the evening wrenching in the back yard. Oh well, next day (all this was last Friday/Saturday) I took a 400 miles trip and forgot all problems. Juanro 94 PC800 Black "Iupi" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:54:46 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Mark Gilb" , Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:53:41 -0600 Yeeeeehaaaaaa! Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Ralph Couey" ; Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long > Ralph, > > I think that the polite thing to say here is that as we fell into the > rhythm of the trip, we found that there was progress to be made by a > judicious application of the right wrist. And progress is a good thing, > right? > > Mark G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Couey" > To: "Christopher Russell-Wood" ; > > Cc: ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long > > > > You gotta understand that Coasters are like horses. At the end of the day > > when the barn is in sight, we gallop. > > > > Right, Mark? > > > > Ralph Couey > > Columbia, MO > > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Russell-Wood" > > > > > Saul, > > > > > > There's no need to go fast on "group" rides> > > > Don't skip group rides out of concern for the riding pace - go along, > > enjoy the company, enjoy seeing all the PCs, and ride your own ride. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Chris Russell-Wood > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:08:45 -0500 From: "Patrick A. McNew" To: Alan Echols , Andy Noy , Jack Christian , Mike & June Sharkey , Scot Sherwin , Phil Blalock , Ronny Anderson , Sheila Goff , Gary & Claire Miller , Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: [Fwd: Revenge] boundary="------------F788F3EF19D373D2FA196D42" --------------F788F3EF19D373D2FA196D42 I am forwarding this message from a friend of mine. It's pretty sobering and strange all at the same time. Ride Safe, Pat McNew --------------F788F3EF19D373D2FA196D42 X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection1: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection2: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection3: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection4: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection5: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection6: X ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Drady Hendley" To: "'Patrick A. McNew'" Subject: RE: Revenge Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:42:05 -0500 Importance: Normal X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hey Pat, I have heard of taping the pre paid postage envelopes to a brick, and while funny, don't think it would processed. I have stuffed the envolopes with the the junk they mail you minus the anything with your name. Well I am still in the hospital but shoud be released tomorrow. Why? I had taken 2 of my sons to a dirt track in Loganville, and then woke up in the hospital 4 days later. I have heard many versions of the story but one had me wandering around asking for an asprirn, another one written by a friend: Bob Wooldridge said: Lynda and I just spent the evening with Cindy and Drady's sister Carla. As you know, Drady was in a dirt bike accident at a track in Loganville yesterday afternoon while riding with his two sons. He did a jump on one run and made it O.K., on the second attempt he made the first hill but landed into the face of the second hill. He came down very hard and hit his upper torso on the handle bars and gas tank. While the jump did injure him, it also set off a major heart attack. Fortunately there was a good samaritan at the track who recognized that a heart attack was occuring and started CPR. The Paramedics arrived quickly and called in a medivac helicopter to airlift Drady to Atlanta Medical Center. During the treatment stage it was determined that Drady had a major artery that was 100% blocked, so they went in and placed some stents in his heart arteries. He is now stable but still on ventilator and a heart pump. They hope to wean him off of the machinery tomorrow and then determine the extent of injuries (so far no broken bones or further internal problems) and a course of treatment. Lynda and I will continue to visit daily until he is in better shape and we'll update the line. My chest is very sore endurance is low, anyway it looks like I have to do some recondititioning before I'm allowed to ride again. My goals is March between the 8th, and the 15th, Maybe in time for the end of Bike week. --------------F788F3EF19D373D2FA196D42-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:46:16 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Torill's new leathers , as shown in a show in Sweden I couldn't help forwarding the URL to the HawkGT list, which probably has a much younger average age than this one. On second thought, this may have been a mistake, as this was like waving a piece of red meat in front of a rottweiler, especially in the middle of winter, when many are suffering from PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome). It's a *very* diverse bunch of people, including a lot of engineers and computer geeks. There were a lot of comments about the "button" on the young lady's left chest area, leading to the following analysis. ====================================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Physics, computer science, target shooting and fatherhood come together.... > 11. Gratuitous flesh (4) Our eyes have built in hardware for detecting both edges and circular objects (see Marr, "Vision", MIT Press). The question for a long time was why. Computer science folks spend a lot of time trying to defeat the eye's natural ability in this area, so do those in the printing industry. Competitive shooters use the ability of the eye to work without consious thought by making targets, sights and scopes have circular apetures. I work creating prepress software and do some shooting. The question of "why is the eye good at that" was recently answered for me. Being perpetually over-prepared and over-read, I sucked up a huge amount of data in preparation for becoming a new father. It turns out we have that hardware built into our eyes so that in the moments after we are born we can find food. (No specific citations, but the work has been published in the past few years. Look it up.) That hardware in our eyes is specifically designed for areola detection. So, in answer to the question, that "button" in her left chest is a natural eye attractor. We have hardware in our eyes specifically designed to find it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:50:44 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 engine oil pressure report David Sigsbee writes: > My oil pressure readings: > > 6000 rpm 66 pounds > 5000 rpm 62 pounds > 4000 rpm 56 pounds > 3000 rpm 40 pounds > 2000 rpm 22 pounds > idle 18 pounds Thanks for the data, David. This is an excellent example of why it's bad to "lug" an engine (i.e., full throttle at 2000 rpms), rather than downshifting and using higher rpms to accelerate. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Bert Satter'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:13:48 -0800 Bert, My speedometer stopped working in the middle of a long trip last fall. Fortunately, I had a GPS unit with me, and I was able to "calibrate" the tachometer readings in different gears to speed. I will look for my "calibration" chart at home tonight and send it to you. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bert Satter [mailto:bert.satter@cinevideogroep.nl] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:01 AM To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Dear listers, The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of conversion-table, so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so please help me to prevent this! Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese Bert Satter Amersfoort, The Netherlands '89 PC White 'Burtmobile' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:38:34 -0400 To: "PC800 List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil I run the PC maint/repair database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ The database has maintenance and repair records for one hundred and seventy five PC800s. Based on data in that database: - how long does the PC engine last with dino oil? We don't know. - how long does the PC engine last with synth oil? We don't know. - how long does the PC engine last with expensive filters? We don't know. - how long does the PC engine last with cheap filters? We don't know. Why don't we know? Because there are no statistics for it. With reasonably regular oil and filter changes of whatever brand, the engine and tranny will be the LAST thing to wear out on your bike. We can all say "Rider A put a squillion miles on his bike with Brand A so it must be good" and someone will say "Rider B put TWO squillion miles on HIS bike with Brand B so it must be better." You can do this all day if you want. Those are null data points. I use department store oil in my bike, and I have NEVER had a head-on with a tiger. So that oil must be the best! To quote another lister, here is the secret to getting the most miles out of your PC: R I D E I T One person I've talked to in the last seven years had an engine failure on a PC, but he refused to talk about it -- my guess is that he filled the engine with ATF or went for a drive after draining the oil but not refilling. IT DOESN'T MATTER what oil and filters you put in it, the PC's engine will outlast your childrens' children. Please people. Keep oil in your bike, change it and your filters a couple times a year, be happy, and RIDE. (for now) -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long To: PC800 LIST I agree with Christopher.. My ride - I wanted to accentuate a few key places along the ride, mainly heights and the scenery. I will be planning a new route - skipping past one tourist attraction and adding others. It was great to see all of the participants - which graciously told me ahead of time when they were going to join up and drop out of the group ride. The biggest logistical thing for me, was planning where the bathroom/fuel stops will be! In the morning, there is that coffee effect - so you need to stop once more than you'd like and within 60 mins of drinking that big glup of caffeine..also harley sportsters can only go 100 miles before refueling ...that kind of planning... :-) On a group ride, Make sure you talk to the road boss of the group ride and in some cases way before hand to get a feel of the tour as a whole. One group in our area rides triple digits out in the open, but respects the posted limits within "city limits". By that I mean, through small town centers, which we have lots of, they go the speed limit. That group above also have two "groups" - the fast group and the slower group. I have yet to ride with them and likely will be in their slower group (and be happy about it). I would also reccomend scanning the Internet for tips on group riding. For local rides, your local dealers may have a posting board - or know of a key contact person or even sponsor an after work ride (one Honda dealer did on Wednesday nights..free wieners and soft-drinks then a 2 hour ride). If your dealers don't - suggest they do! One other thing, make sure you gas up completely before you join any group for a ride. Have fun! Christoffer > --- "Goldberg, Saul" wrote: > > Sorry I missed it. It sounds like great fun, > sorta. > > The weather was cool, > > but I'm sure the company was warm. What concerns > me > > is, if I ever go on some > > of these groupie rides, must I also do "75 to > 80mph > > for about 110 miles?" If > > so, I must only go on the rides in my mind. I > almost > > never do 80, and only > > for very brief periods, like for getting out of > some > > pitifully hopless > > traffic flow. (And I always mildly rebuke myself > for > > it afterwards.) I would > > like to join other Coasters for good times. But I > > would like to travel > > comfortably, as well. Is this possible? > > > > Saul Goldberg > > Gaithersburg MD > > '89--Pearl > > > > > > ===== > Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar > AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great > prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar AIM= christoffer67 - chat sometime? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:28:56 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Group Rides To: PC800 I kind of missed the beginning of the group ride thing. But Chris had some good points about "fast" riders and "slow" riders. I joined the HSTA through a fellow PC rider and Founder of the HSTA, Dana Sawyer. I joined 11/98 and the summer of '99 I didn't get together on any of their rides in MN. I meet up with them for the lunch and cycle show and read the newsletters. That was it. Still had my '83 rat bike Yamaha Maxim 750. I was also on this user list lusting after a new Pacific Coast but needed to wait. March 2000 I picked up my new, to me, PC and rode the summer commuting and riding the weekend with the group from the local HSTA. Man oh man did I have fun. One of the main sayings of the HSTA is to ride your ride. Sure some of the guys ride a lot quicker then I. They are on Ducati 916's, 748's, TL1000's, VFR's, 929's. Some of them are riding ST1000's, Voyager's, PC's... Anyway, never did I feel like I had to keep up. Never did I feel like they needed to slow done. They would go on their way and then wait at the next turn for the group I was in. Sometimes it was I waiting for the people following behind. We'd stop for gas or lunch and talk about how much fun this road was, or how much this road sucked. I commuted on my bike for many years not realizing why I rode in the first place. Find a group in your area. Check out HSTA. http://www.ridehsta.com/ RIDE You won’t regret it. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" , "'Bert Satter'" Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:26:40 -0500 I concur with Emile, although my keyboard does not do "Dutch." However, I sort of thought that most bikers had assimilated an association of speed vs RPMs, if for no other reason than to know when to shift gears. There are other advantages in terms of knowing one's vehicle and exactly "where you are." I just thought that given our higher degree of being tuned into the experience that most of us would already know some of this. Maybe it's just me... -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK [mailto:Emile.Nossin@klm.nl] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:06 AM To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'; 'Bert Satter' Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable 5000 RPM was volgens mij precies 120 km/h....in z'n 5.. da's de enige die ik nog zeker weet... kom je in ieder geval de snelweg nog op.. : ) Groeten, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club ps spring is in the air here.. > ---------- > From: Bert Satter[SMTP:bert.satter@cinevideogroep.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:00 AM > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > > Dear listers, > > The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. > I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of > conversion-table, > so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. > > Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so > please help > me to prevent this! > > Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese > > Bert Satter > Amersfoort, The Netherlands > '89 PC White > 'Burtmobile' > -- > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:04:16 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:02:33 -0800 To: Roger Ries , PC800 From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Group Rides I whole heartedly concour with Roger's comments. I was state director for HSTA in California for three years and the most important thing I could do before a group ride is to make sure that everyone knew where we were going to end up, that they had some idea about the route, that they understood at major intersections or places where we would CHANGE DIRECTION, someone would wait and many times the whole group would wait for the last person to arrive, then we would proceed. The point of this type of riding is enjoying the day with other people, but not trying to kepe up with someone else who chooses to travel at a rate you don't like or don't feel comfortable at. You need to "ride your own ride" in a group or by yourself. You will never enjoy traveling at someone else's pace unless it happens to match your own. I am lucky because I found a good friend that is also a good rider and travels at a pace which equals mine. There are a couple of people on this list who can testify about my rate. Some would call it elevated, others would call it slow ... but the important point is this "IT IS MY PACE" not yours. I respect you for riding within your limits. I used to be bothered by people who were a lot faster or slower than I was, but I have come to realize that they are riding just they way they should, so I am now impressed when someone chooses to ride their own ride. Now what irritates me is someone who chides someone else for not being fast enough. Find your pace and stick with it. It will prevent you from doing stupid. If you ride at someone else's pace and something bad happens, you have one person to blame and that is the person in control of your bikes throttle. Jim Alexander At 09:28 AM 02/07/2001, Roger Ries wrote: >I kind of missed the beginning of the group ride thing. But Chris had >some good points about "fast" riders and "slow" riders. > >I joined the HSTA through a fellow PC rider and Founder of the HSTA, >Dana Sawyer. > >I joined 11/98 and the summer of '99 I didn't get together on any of >their rides in MN. I meet up with them for the lunch and cycle show and >read the newsletters. That was it. Still had my '83 rat bike Yamaha >Maxim 750. I was also on this user list lusting after a new Pacific >Coast but needed to wait. > >March 2000 I picked up my new, to me, PC and rode the summer commuting >and riding the weekend with the group from the local HSTA. > >Man oh man did I have fun. One of the main sayings of the HSTA is to >ride your ride. Sure some of the guys ride a lot quicker then I. They >are on Ducati 916's, 748's, TL1000's, VFR's, 929's. Some of them are >riding ST1000's, Voyager's, PC's... > >Anyway, never did I feel like I had to keep up. Never did I feel like >they needed to slow done. They would go on their way and then wait at >the next turn for the group I was in. Sometimes it was I waiting for >the people following behind. We'd stop for gas or lunch and talk about >how much fun this road was, or how much this road sucked. > >I commuted on my bike for many years not realizing why I rode in the >first place. Find a group in your area. Check out HSTA. >http://www.ridehsta.com/ > >RIDE > >You won't regret it. > > > > >===== >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN >'98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) >PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Jim Alexander'" , Roger Ries , PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Ride Groups Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:12:32 -0500 Then it's settled. I'll go on the rides that include some of the thoughtful and sensitve respondents who have reassured me that I can "ride my own race" AND enjoy the PC companionship. Thank to all. Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89--Pearl -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander [mailto:jamesalexander@compuserve.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:03 PM To: Roger Ries; PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Group Rides I whole heartedly concour with Roger's comments. I was state director for HSTA in California for three years and the most important thing I could do before a group ride is to make sure that everyone knew where we were going to end up, that they had some idea about the route, that they understood at major intersections or places where we would CHANGE DIRECTION, someone would wait and many times the whole group would wait for the last person to arrive, then we would proceed. The point of this type of riding is enjoying the day with other people, but not trying to kepe up with someone else who chooses to travel at a rate you don't like or don't feel comfortable at. You need to "ride your own ride" in a group or by yourself. You will never enjoy traveling at someone else's pace unless it happens to match your own. I am lucky because I found a good friend that is also a good rider and travels at a pace which equals mine. There are a couple of people on this list who can testify about my rate. Some would call it elevated, others would call it slow ... but the important point is this "IT IS MY PACE" not yours. I respect you for riding within your limits. I used to be bothered by people who were a lot faster or slower than I was, but I have come to realize that they are riding just they way they should, so I am now impressed when someone chooses to ride their own ride. Now what irritates me is someone who chides someone else for not being fast enough. Find your pace and stick with it. It will prevent you from doing stupid. If you ride at someone else's pace and something bad happens, you have one person to blame and that is the person in control of your bikes throttle. Jim Alexander At 09:28 AM 02/07/2001, Roger Ries wrote: >I kind of missed the beginning of the group ride thing. But Chris had >some good points about "fast" riders and "slow" riders. > >I joined the HSTA through a fellow PC rider and Founder of the HSTA, >Dana Sawyer. > >I joined 11/98 and the summer of '99 I didn't get together on any of >their rides in MN. I meet up with them for the lunch and cycle show and >read the newsletters. That was it. Still had my '83 rat bike Yamaha >Maxim 750. I was also on this user list lusting after a new Pacific >Coast but needed to wait. > >March 2000 I picked up my new, to me, PC and rode the summer commuting >and riding the weekend with the group from the local HSTA. > >Man oh man did I have fun. One of the main sayings of the HSTA is to >ride your ride. Sure some of the guys ride a lot quicker then I. They >are on Ducati 916's, 748's, TL1000's, VFR's, 929's. Some of them are >riding ST1000's, Voyager's, PC's... > >Anyway, never did I feel like I had to keep up. Never did I feel like >they needed to slow done. They would go on their way and then wait at >the next turn for the group I was in. Sometimes it was I waiting for >the people following behind. We'd stop for gas or lunch and talk about >how much fun this road was, or how much this road sucked. > >I commuted on my bike for many years not realizing why I rode in the >first place. Find a group in your area. Check out HSTA. >http://www.ridehsta.com/ > >RIDE > >You won't regret it. > > > > >===== >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN >'98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) >PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 7 Feb 01 10:22:00 PST From: David Orlich To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. -MORE Thank you for all the responses to my account of the accident I witnessed= =2E = Believe me, much of my action in this doesn't come from nobility, but pur= e PISSOFF. The driver was SO stupid. The sheer arrogance of running someo= ne down in a car that costs six figures... The PC800 figures in this in a small way. I have given a statement to th= e lawyer of the victim that took up over an hour of tape. Details, details= =2E = When I described hearing the sound of impact the lawyer said, "You HEARD = the impact? On a motorcycle?" "I ride a Honda PC800 Pacific Coast, about the quietest motorcycle mad= e. = It's as close to an electric bike as you'll find. I wear an open-face he= lmet, and the first thing I do is remove all ear padding so that my hearing isn= 't obstructed. I heard the impact". He had no more questions on that subje= ct. One of the listers questioned if the driver could even be charged. I sus= pect that vehicular assault, or at least reckless driving would be appropriate= =2E When the speed limit was 25mph and the car was seen doing triple that at = the time of impact, a radar gun shouldn't be neccesary to prove irresponsibil= ity. = When it comes to the civil trial you know the defendant's lawyer is going= to say, "My client was never even cited by the police". Charge him with SOMETHING. David Orlich and Judith Herring 1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 13:30:37 -0500 Subject: RE: PC800: 2/4 DC Ride aka Polar Bear Run! - long To: sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "PC800 Rider" >"Goldberg, Saul" wrote: >What concerns me is, if I ever go on some of these groupie rides, must I also >do "75 to 80mph for about 110 miles?" If so, I must only go on the rides in my >mind. I almost never do 80, and only for very brief periods, like for getting >out of some pitifully hopless traffic flow. (And I always mildly rebuke myself >for it afterwards.) I would like to join other Coasters for good times. But I >would like to travel comfortably, as well. Is this possible? > >Saul Goldberg >Gaithersburg MD >'89--Pearl Saul you really have to make a point to get together with some of us this spring/summer/fall and you will be more that pleased with your on road experience. I can't speak for the dinning experience though:-) I've never ridden with any other Coasters who fit your description above, but that does not mean they never ride like that sometimes. You can always do what I do and drop to the back, ride at your own pace. If there is a major twist or turn in the route someone will be there waiting for you to make sure you go the correct way. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 IPCRC #4 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton K. Hammond" To: Cc: "Louise St-Amand" Subject: PC800: 1997 PC800 for Sale in Canada! Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:33:59 -0500 Importance: Normal Clear DayI am posting this for someone else who does NOT access this chat group for now, so please send any requests for further information to: Louise St. Amande St-Amand.Louise@tourisme-montreal.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- PC800 1997 for Sale, a.. Red color, b.. 17,500 miles, c.. excellent condition (impeccable), d.. I live near Montréal (Oka) e.. Accessories: f.. Back rest (you can put your back on it), g.. Windjammer (small one and big one), h.. Fog light, i.. new tires, etc. j.. Information: I bought it in April 2000. k.. The motorcycle has been used just half a year in Canada. l.. She's from New York. m.. Price: $ 9,800 I really appreciate what you do for me... Ciao Louise ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ********************************* Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. ( elton.hammond@ekho.com ) 1997 PC800 The EKHO Institute (www.ekho.com) Autodesk Premier Training Center Award Winning Training (613) 822-6935 EKHO Memory Strips (http://www.ekho.com/EKHO_STRIPS/EKHO_Strips.htm) requests for further information to:

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    PC800 1997 for Sale,

    • Red color,=20
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    • Information: I bought it in April 2000.=20
    • The motorcycle has been used just half a year in Canada.=20
    • She's from New York.=20
    • Price: $ 9,800

    I really appreciate what you do for me...

    Ciao   Louise

    *********************************

    Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. ( elton.hammond@ekho.com = )
    1997 = PC800
     
    The EKHO = Institute (www.ekho.com)
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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Group Rides Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:08:45 -0500 Now what irritates me is someone who chides someone else for not being = fast enough. - Jim Alexander. ************************* Good point, Jim. But, As a MSF instructor once told me, "Know who you = ride with." I think a large part of the responsibility should be with which group a = person choses to ride. As Paul Harvey says: Here's the rest of a story... I was at an organized dual sport meet where the rides were broken down = into three groups: 1.) Mild pace, on-road only. > For newer riders or those with limited or = no off-road experience. 2.) Brisk/Moderate pace, mixed pavement/off-road. > More advanced = riders with off roading skills. 3.) "Sporting" pace, mixed pavement/off-road. > The "fast guys". =3D) A couple riding two-up on a dual sport bike with street tread tires = expressed concern about being able to keep up with others at the rider's = meeting, yet went with group #2 mysteriously. Out of 10 bikes, 9 would arrive at the next turn, stop,etc... within a = minute of one another.=20 Then we would wait another 2 or 3 minutes for #10 (guess who?)=20 We decided to take turns riding sweep to keep an eye on the slower = rider. I went first in the rotation. I found out why we were having to wait so much. Despite being told that = the group would ride at a healthy pace and be taking some off-road = excursions, the rider and his spouse were taking their sweet time.=20 {I'm not complaining here. Just observing.}=20 They had no concept that a group ride meant being part of a group. They would maintain 10mph under the posted limit on straight, smooth = asphalt. I saw them slow down further to look at "the cow", "the = butterfly", "the chicken" or whatever. They saw no problem in the others = having to stop at each turn-off for whatever length of time it took to = catch up. When we went off the paved road, the fellow seemed surprised - = He thought we were kidding about going off road! When I mentioned this to the ride leader at the next stop, they commented that if "I didn't think I could keep up, maybe I should = be with a different group!!!!!"=20 I politely pointed out the slower rider to the leaders and then excused = myself and invited them to see for themselves. I was one of the lead = riders and comfortably keeping up before taking up the rear position. = Confused and a wee bit irritated - I excused myself from the group and = went on alone.=20 One of the other riders later contacted me about why I'd left? I = responded and the fellow immediately went "oh, those two!" The group = ended up waiting on them continuously the rest of the day, much to the = everyone's disappointment. -eddie the=20 rest of the day, much to the everyone's  disappointment.
     
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "David Orlich" , Subject: Re: PC800: To Live and Near-Die in L.A. Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:25:22 -0800 Go get him, The drive still might be charged, in serious cases like that they are probably waiting to see how the victim does before making charges. And then the case would be forwarded to the prosecutor for charging. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Mark Gilb" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Ride Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:27:51 -0800 You lucky guy...... Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" > If the weather holds up overnight, I'm thinking of riding to work tomorrow. > Lows around freezing but a high promised near 60. WOO-HOOOOOOO. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "D.J." , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:31:21 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "D.J." > I have an 89PC with the stock short windshield. I would like to get > feedback on any of the aftermarket shields as to which is better and + how > many inches. I want to cut down the wind hitting in the chest/neck area and > cut down on wind noise... Thanks for the feedback D.J. Us folks with the Clearview's think they are the best, and the Rifle riders like theirs. I would do a search of the archives for lots of comments. How tall depends on you, and if you like looking through the shield or over it. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:11:36 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:09:59 -0800 To: "PC800 List" From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Group Rides Sounds like you did exactly the proper thing for yourself. That couple should have been spoken too about their riding style not being appropriate with the group they choose. If there was an opportunity for them to switch groups is should have been suggested. One good thing about riding in an association like the HSTA, almost every rider has been on the group rides before or there is a friend of someone who has ridden on the group rides before, so it is easy to judge where they need to be. This is the advantage of riding with a group regularly. The open events do not afford this kind of foreknowledge so I guess you get what you get. For that reason, the organizers of those rides need to take more attention to someone like yourself that is pointing out a problem and address it at the time. Too bad they were not doing the job properly. Jim Alexander At 01:08 PM 02/07/2001, eddie wrote: >Now what irritates me is someone who chides someone else for not being >fast enough. - Jim Alexander. >************************* [snip] >one of the lead riders and comfortably keeping up before taking up the >rear position. Confused and a wee bit irritated - I excused myself from >the group and went on alone. >One of the other riders later contacted me about why I'd left? I responded >and the fellow immediately went "oh, those two!" The group ended up >waiting on them continuously the rest of the day, much to the >everyone's disappointment. > >-eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 7 Feb 01 15:23:03 PST From: David Orlich To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Backrest - help! If Alex Vrenios or anyone with a backrest installation guide could help, = I need the Honda part number for the 8x60mm bolt so my dealer can order a c= ouple for me. The number on the instruction sheet I downloaded appears to be w= rong. = The incorrect number is 96700-08060-17. Can anyone help with the right o= ne? Many thanks! David Orlich and Judith Herring 1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:23:13 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: ST1100, Rifle, Clearview (was Which Windshield is best???) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 17:23:13 -0800 I've noticed that the ST1100s (at least the new ones) have an interestingly shaped windshield. Whereas my tall Honda shield has a relatively consistent radius curve to it, the top few inches of the ST1100's shield turns up, and this would seem to direct the airflow up and over the rider, as opposed to focusing it on the rider's helmet, as my windshield does. Do either the Clearview or Rifle shields incorporate this kind of "lip", or are they straight like Honda's? And for those of you who have ridden (or ride) ST1100s or bikes with similar windshields, how much does that lip help? Cheers, Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster >From: "Will Edwards" >To: "D.J." , "PC800" >Subject: Re: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:31:21 -0800 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "D.J." > > I have an 89PC with the stock short windshield. I would like to get > > feedback on any of the aftermarket shields as to which is better and + >how > > many inches. I want to cut down the wind hitting in the chest/neck area >and > > cut down on wind noise... Thanks for the feedback D.J. > > >Us folks with the Clearview's think they are the best, and the Rifle riders >like theirs. I would do a search of the archives for lots of comments. How >tall depends on you, and if you like looking through the shield or over it. > >Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com >Washington state http://wills-domain.com >96 PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to... > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:49:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "B Pickett" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:51:14 -0800 Bert, I put the speed calibration chart that I promised onto a web page at http://www.members.home.com/bdpickett/bp/maint/speedchart.html. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:14 AM Subject: FW: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pickett, Bruce D > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:14 AM > To: 'Bert Satter' > Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > > > Bert, > My speedometer stopped working in the middle of a long trip last fall. Fortunately, I had a GPS unit with me, and I was able to "calibrate" the tachometer readings in different gears to speed. I will look for my "calibration" chart at home tonight and send it to you. > > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bert Satter [mailto:bert.satter@cinevideogroep.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:01 AM > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > > > Dear listers, > > The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. > I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of conversion-table, > so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. > > Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so > please help > me to prevent this! > > Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese > > Bert Satter > Amersfoort, The Netherlands > '89 PC White > 'Burtmobile' > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:40:05 -0500 (EST) To: revill.dunn@legerity.com (Revill Dunn) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo --WebTV-Mail-2370-332 Why don't you just post the photo to the List?! I'd like to see it! Fact, i'd like to see more pictures on this list! PC related of Course!! Who says it's not proper to post pictures to this List? Dave Ride Swift--Ride Safe{i like that} --WebTV-Mail-2370-332 storefull-228.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) 5 Feb 2001 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: laidbacksquirtt@webtv.net smtpin-102-7.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 9497D20B; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAF23232; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:21:13 -0600 (CST) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25780 for ; mail.legerity.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f15INth10089 for ; mopac.legerity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15562 for ; ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:20:09 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Funny Photo A friend forwarded me a funny photo. Since I don't have a convenient website to post it to, and it doesn't seem to be the norm to attach photo files to postings to this site, I guess I'll just mention it, and let you ask for a copy. No, it's not PC related. So, email me back if you want to see it. Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-2370-332-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:08:43 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" , "Dave Klein" Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:07:13 -0600 Why not send photos and attachments? Ask anyone who recently got the latest virus sent to them by way of an e-mail attachment. Snow White was the one lately for me. Good thing I had McAfee running. I don't even know where it came from. McAfee snatched it up before I could even see who sent it or what it was! I subscribe to a couple of other lists and those allow pics and file attachments. There are days when I receive 10 or 12 messages with 500k attachments. (Granted that is a worst case scenario) If the message has an attachment and comes from someone I don't know, it gets deleted immediately. I almost deleted the one that you sent Dave. I don't often see your name on the list, and to be honest, I almost deleted the message before I read your question. Your message had a previous message attached to it instead of including it in the test of your message. Any idea what even 2 or 3 500k attachments do to download times on a dial-up ISP? And, please don't tell me that I need a faster connection. I live in the country and the ONLY CONNECTION is a dial-up service--unless I am willing to spend $300-$500 per month for a dedicated line, which is only offered in this area by ONE ISP!! Bet you're sorry I opened your message now, huh?? 8-) This list has YET to send me ANY viruses!!! Horary!! I hope the track record stays intact. How's that for a short answer? [:]-) "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:34:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:34:21 EST Subject: PC800: OH NO! Another oil thread. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC list) Hiyall Just when I think that I heard it all, a charming fellow down at my local Honda dealer just told me today that I could actually be damaging my engine by using Mobil 1 and not Honda oils in it. When I asked him how this could possibly be given that the synthetics have proven to be better than dino oils for overall protection, he stated that the man made oils don't transfer heat away as well as dinos do. Now, I am not saying that this guy is a total idiot, but I WILL say that he appeared to be a total idiot. But now I am wondering, could there be any shred of truth to what he is claiming I wonder? I neglected to ask him where he got his information. I rather doubt that I would have been able to tell me anyway though. Any thoughts on this? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:29:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: thekoppfamily@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 04:29:27 Hi Joel, >From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" >I've noticed that the ST1100s (at least the new ones) have an interestingly >shaped windshield... the top few inches of the ST1100's shield turns up, >and this would seem to direct the airflow up and over the rider, as opposed >to focusing it on... Never such a design on Clearview, Rifle and not even Hondaline. I did come across with such an aftermarket shield for PC, with the very design in Hong Kong. It is on a black '95 PC, the owner said it is a Japanese shield and that's it, as somebody ordered and did everything for him. The shape and design is just the same as the ST stock shield(no triangular vent holes), the PC one is made with acrylic, and the turn-up top edge was found optically distorted. IMHO I don't like it, no matter what. Hey guys, where we can find the perfect shield for our PCs? The polycarbonate Hondaline tall shield looks good, in 1 pc. design, but it wobble a lot and thus develope hairline cracks after few years. Also the hard coating becomes yellowish and then peel off after few years no matter how you pampered it. The acrylic Rifle is just too soft, if you ride REALLY fast, the wind pressure will simply press it all the way towards you. No problem at all, only the scene is quite scary. Unless you gonna to add an electrical tilt mechanism on it, I can't see any advantages on its 2 pcs. design. Never try the Clearview, but with a glance its 1 pc. design is nice, the thick polycarbonate shield looks firm and strong, only there's little distortion when you looking thro' it. Am I too picky or what? - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Long Service Medal - 2000 GWRRA # 101177, Gold Winger & Pacific Coaster 84 GL1200Asp beige, 95 GL1500SE candy spectra red 90 PC800 candy glory red, 94 CBX750 Police Edition, 77 CB550FOUR The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 12 Chinese Water Dragons _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:02:46 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "Philips Wong" , , Subject: Re: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:02:06 +0100 ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: ; Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:29 AM Subject: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield > Hi Joel, >=20 > >From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" > >I've noticed that the ST1100s (at least the new ones) have an = interestingly=20 > >shaped windshield... the top few inches of the ST1100's shield turns = up,=20 > >and this would seem to direct the airflow up and over the rider, as = opposed=20 > >to focusing it on... >=20 > Never such a design on Clearview, Rifle and not even Hondaline. > - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI Hi , There are a french company making shields for the PC . SECDEM http://www.secdem.fr/htgb/home.htm The picture on their site suggest that the PC type might be the "turn = up" type. Difficult to say . I have never seen it in real life. Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SoS" PCRC # 2 (Mine) 89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's) 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" (only mine;-) 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 (for = sale) 97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer=20 My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:12:58 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Technical datas on the Secdem shield Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:06:09 +0100 Technical data MATERIALS : Our fairings and windscreens are made of optical-quality = molded PMMA (ALTUGLAS PLEXIGLAS) or, on request, high shock-resistance = ALTUGLAS El 50 (TUV approved) for an additional charge of 15% and only = in transparent and light smoked. COLORS : All models are available in any of our 16 standard colors, with = the exception of items of 4 mm thickness indicated in this catalog, = which are available in transparent and light smoked only. DIMENSIONS : The height of our fairings and windscreens has been adapted = to offer optimum efficiency with a rider of average build. However, we = are in a position to modify these characteristics on request (height of = windscreen or dimensions of spoiler for high-protection). It should be = noted that the fairings for our sport models (GSX/R, ZX/R, FZR) have = standard high protection (with spoiler) as well as the endurance models = (extended height but with the original fairing curve). FASTENINGS : The fairings are supplied pre-drilled and, when necessary, = with unremovable black nylon screws. The windscreen fastening elements = are made of material which does not impede the finish quality of modern = motorbikes : satin black polypropylene handlebar straps, stainless steel = fastening rods, silent-block, Allen screws... enabling personalized = fastening at three or four points for adaptation to all types of = motorbikes.=20 Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SoS" PCRC # 2 (Mine) 89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's) 90 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" (only mine;-) 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 (for = sale) 97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer=20 My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com .................................................. Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! ) My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik curve).

    FASTENINGS : The=20 fairings are supplied pre-drilled and, when necessary, with unremovable = black=20 nylon screws. The windscreen fastening elements are made of material = which does=20 not impede the finish quality of modern motorbikes : satin black = polypropylene=20 handlebar straps, stainless steel fastening rods, silent-block, Allen = screws...=20 enabling personalized fastening at three or four points for adaptation = to all=20 types of motorbikes.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    89 PC 800 "PoW" PCRC # 3 (Torill's)
    90 GB 500 = Clubman=20 "Kitty" (only mine;-)
    82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar = "Goldie"=20 GWRRA # 147178 (for sale)
    97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer
    My Home = page is=20 at:
    http://lovik.tripod.com
    .........= .........................................
     
    Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
    * Page me online = through my=20 Personal Communication Center:
    http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279= 399=20 (go there and try it!) or,
    * Send me E-mail Express directly to my = computer=20 screen
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    My Fax Number is: + 1-209-821-5865 ( NB !!! USA Number !!! )
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vrenios@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:38:35 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: OH NO! Another oil thread. Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:38:35 +0000 You've got very hot metal parts inside the engine surrounded by oil, which is also in contact with the cooler metal engine walls. The question is: How well does this oil transfer heat? Synthetic or not, there ought to be a spec. If the engine temperature is about the same with one oil as another, I expect their heat transfer characteristics are the same. He just might be a complete idiot, but I suspect that his motivation is to sell you some oil. -- Alex Vrenios vrenios@att.net http://vrenios.home.att.net > Hiyall > > Just when I think that I heard it all, a charming fellow down at my local > Honda dealer just told me today that I could actually be damaging my engine > by using Mobil 1 and not Honda oils in it. When I asked him how this could > possibly be given that the synthetics have proven to be better than dino oils > for overall protection, he stated that the man made oils don't transfer heat > away as well as dinos do. Now, I am not saying that this guy is a total > idiot, but I WILL say that he appeared to be a total idiot. But now I am > wondering, could there be any shred of truth to what he is claiming I wonder? > I neglected to ask him where he got his information. I rather doubt that I > would have been able to tell me anyway though. > > Any thoughts on this? > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vrenios@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:54:48 +0000 To: David Orlich Cc: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Backrest - help! Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:54:47 +0000 Hi David, I am sorry to say that my instruction sheet has the exact same number that you say is wrong. (I also noticed that my sheet shows their quantity as 2, rather than 4, as I know it to be.) Good news: remember my goofy assumption that the shorter bolts were supposed to go through the seat and into the hand rails? Well in the process of finding longer ones at my local Home Depot, I got some 6x20mm bolts that were the same kind as those 8x60mm, in the sense that they were nearly black, the head was nurled, and had a hex-head socket for a hex wrench. (Cap screws?) Well if the 6x20mm bolts are at Home Depot, maybe they've got 8x60mm bolts too. And if not HD, then maybe Home Base or an Ace Hardware... Don't forget the Honda Motorcycle Customer Service number is 1-310-783-2000. Be sure to say "motorcycle" and they will hook you up to the right people. The guy I talked to happened to own a '95 PC800 and I told him about this list! Good luck. -- Alex Vrenios vrenios@att.net http://vrenios.home.att.net > If Alex Vrenios or anyone with a backrest installation guide could help, I > need the Honda part number for the 8x60mm bolt so my dealer can order a couple > for me. The number on the instruction sheet I downloaded appears to be wrong. > > > The incorrect number is 96700-08060-17. Can anyone help with the right one? > > Many thanks! > > David Orlich and Judith Herring > 1995 PC800 "Black Guppy" > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at > http://home.netscape.com/webmail > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: RVPC800@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC list) From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: OH NO! Another oil thread. of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:34:21 EST." Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 00:01:46 -0600 RVPC800@aol.com writes: > Hiyall > > Just when I think that I heard it all, a charming fellow down at my local > Honda dealer just told me today that I could actually be damaging my engine > by using Mobil 1 and not Honda oils in it. When I asked him how this could > possibly be given that the synthetics have proven to be better than dino oils > for overall protection, he stated that the man made oils don't transfer heat > away as well as dinos do. Now, I am not saying that this guy is a total > idiot, but I WILL say that he appeared to be a total idiot. But now I am > wondering, could there be any shred of truth to what he is claiming I wonder? > I neglected to ask him where he got his information. I rather doubt that I > would have been able to tell me anyway though. Yet another example of why a professional mechanic is not the best person to trust with your mechanical toys. Synthetic oil is oil. That seems hard for some people to understand. It is made of exactly the same chemicals as refined oil. The difference is with a synthetic additive process (not what is usually meant by "oil additives") the synthetic oil engineer takes an empty jar and puts in it only what he wants. The refined oil engineer takes a jar full of crude oil and filters out what he doesn't want. That's the difference. Ever notice the root words in "refine"? As in "refined oil". Relates to the use of a sieve to sort grains and ground grains at the mill. The stuff that falls thru is known as "fines". Re-fine-ing suggests the use of multiple sized sieves to get the grains bigger than one sieve but smaller than another. And that's just what an oil refinery does. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:46:50 -0600 by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 06:13:16 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Grant" To: "PC800 group" Subject: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:06:16 +1000 hi!=20 My 24 year old niece in Montreal is thinking seriously of getting a = first motorcycle, I suspect for many reasons, but partially because she = LOVES the look of the Kawasaki ZX6R.=20 Now she is a sensible young lady, but really has no local cyclist to = advise her, and I want to give her some reasons NOT to start out with = such a fast 'crotch rocket.' If anyone has the URL of sites that may offer ideas , advice to a = beginning m/cyclist, please forward them to me so I can send her some = stuff to read.=20 Obviously I can not give the depth of advice I would like, from 10 000 = miles away, but any help with this is MUCH appreciated. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch her=20 some stuff to read.
     
    Obviously I can not give the depth of advice I = would like,=20 from 10 000 miles away, but any help with this is MUCH = appreciated.
     
     
    Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!
     
    Motorcycle Travel Web Page
    www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch=
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.63) with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 02:12:51 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Ron Grant" , "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:15:04 +0100 Importance: Normal Dear 24 year old Montreal niece of Ron, I began riding with a 50cc zundapp, then after getting my motorcycle license I bought a 400cc Honda, then a 600cc Yamaha, a 800 cc Honda and now after 6 years an 1100cc Honda. I did my riding lessons on the same type of 600cc Yamaha Diversion as I bought later. It's not as sporty as the ZX6R, doesn't react as violently with the throttle as well. The ZX6R isn't that heavy and is good in that respect but without experience this can be a wild horse difficult to tame. A girl friend of mine bought a VFR400 as a first bike. Now this bike can really get of his place as well, but only if you rev it up real high. Problem was the seating position was so sporty (bit like the ZX6R) that she never got confident when riding the bike. She sold it now and is not riding anymore, mostly I think because she bought the wrong bike. The VFR400 is great if you either have some experience or if you ride with it a lot and get a training course with it. But the ZX6R has more then the sporty seating against it. As a beginning rider you will make mistakes and mistakes are more easily forgiven if the bike is light and doesn't react wildly on the throttle. Now I think it's better than a ZX12R, but still you should really use your head with this bike which is hard if you have no experience data in it. If you decide to begin riding anyway with such a crotch rocket be sure to follow all the advanced training courses you can find FIRST. If you have a good natural feeling for motorcycles (some people do, some don't..), if you got a good set of brains and if you follow training courses first it should be no problem for this to be a first bike. Be sure to ride it a lot as this bike does need a good proficient and experienced rider. And be aware that it's wild characteristics could be intimidating for you as a beginning rider and perhaps can scare you in to not riding at all anymore. It can be a lot faster than you realize and corners taken too fast can only be solved with experience and / or good training. I made my share of beginning mistakes 6 years ago on my CB400, even that bike was faster than I sometimes realised and believe me that's a docile bike. I wouldn't have want to make those on my current mount.. Be sure to read the articles linked in the address below, there are some great tips in there: http://www.msgroup.org/TIPS.asp Motorcycling is more complex than you might realize. If you wanna do it good and want to survive it as well it is important to educate yourself as much as possible. Unlike driving a car motorcycling is a skill. Know your bike, know yourself.. And be sure to pass on all those great motorcycling stories : ) Emile '92 ST1100 comfort rocket ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (26 years old ; )) www.piloot.com -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Ron Grant Sent: donderdag 8 februari 2001 7:06 To: PC800 group Subject: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist hi! My 24 year old niece in Montreal is thinking seriously of getting a first motorcycle, I suspect for many reasons, but partially because she LOVES the look of the Kawasaki ZX6R. Now she is a sensible young lady, but really has no local cyclist to advise her, and I want to give her some reasons NOT to start out with such a fast 'crotch rocket.' If anyone has the URL of sites that may offer ideas , advice to a beginning m/cyclist, please forward them to me so I can send her some stuff to read. Obviously I can not give the depth of advice I would like, from 10 000 miles away, but any help with this is MUCH appreciated. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia! Motorcycle Travel Web Page www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch
    this=20 bike can really get of his place as well, but only if = you
    rev it=20 up real high. Problem was the seating position was
    so=20 sporty (bit like the ZX6R) that she never got = confident
    when=20 riding the bike. She sold it now and is not riding
    anymore, mostly I think because she bought = the=20 wrong
    bike.=20 The VFR400 is great if you either have some = experience
    or if=20 you ride with it a lot and get a training course with = it.
    But=20 the ZX6R has more then the sporty seating against
    it. As=20 a beginning rider you will make mistakes and
    mistakes are more easily forgiven if the bike = is=20 light
    and=20 doesn't react wildly on the throttle. Now I think = it's
    better=20 than a ZX12R, but still you should really use your
    head=20 with this bike which is hard if you have no = experience
    data=20 in it.
     
    If you=20 decide to begin riding anyway with such a crotch=20 rocket
    be=20 sure to follow all the advanced training courses you=20 can
    find=20 FIRST. If you have a good natural feeling for=20 motorcycles
    (some=20 people do, some don't..), if you got a good set of=20 brains
    and if=20 you follow training courses first it should be no = problem
    for=20 this to be a first bike. Be sure to ride it a lot as this=20 bike
    does=20 need a good proficient and experienced rider. = And
    be=20 aware that it's wild characteristics could be = intimidating
    for=20 you as a beginning rider and perhaps can scare you = in
    to not=20 riding at all anymore. It can be a lot faster than = you
    realize and corners taken too fast can only = be solved=20 with
    experience and / or good training. I made my = share of=20 beginning
    mistakes 6 years ago on my CB400, even that = bike=20 was
    faster=20 than I sometimes realised and believe me that's a = docile
    bike.=20 I wouldn't have want to make those on my current = mount..
     
    Be=20 sure to read the articles linked in the address below, = there
    are=20 some great tips in there: http://www.msgroup.org/TIPS.asp<= /A>
    Motorcycling is more complex than you might = realize. If=20 you
    wanna=20 do it good and want to survive it as well it is = important
    to=20 educate yourself as much as possible. Unlike driving a = car
    motorcycling is a skill. Know your bike, know = yourself..
    And be=20 sure to pass on all those great motorcycling stories : = )
     
    Emile
    '92=20 ST1100 comfort rocket ABS/TCS "Eclipse"
    (26=20 years old ; ))
    www.piloot.com
     
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: = owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Ron = Grant
    Sent:=20 donderdag 8 februari 2001 7:06
    To: PC800 = group
    Subject:=20 PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist

    hi!
     
    My 24 year old niece in Montreal is thinking = seriously of=20 getting a first motorcycle, I suspect for many reasons, but partially = because=20 she LOVES the look of the Kawasaki ZX6R.
     
    Now she is a sensible young lady, but really has = no local=20 cyclist to advise her, and I want to give her some reasons NOT to start = out with=20 such a fast 'crotch rocket.'
     
    If anyone has the URL of sites that may offer = ideas ,=20 advice to a beginning m/cyclist, please forward them to me so I can send = her=20 some stuff to read.
     
    Obviously I can not give the depth of advice I = would like,=20 from 10 000 miles away, but any help with this is MUCH = appreciated.
     
     
    Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!
     
    Motorcycle Travel Web Page
    www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch=
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:43:12 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: OH NO! Another oil thread. Russ Vernon writes: > Just when I think that I heard it all, a charming fellow down at my > local Honda dealer just told me today that I could actually be > damaging my engine by using Mobil 1 and not Honda oils in it. When > I asked him how this could possibly be given that the synthetics have > proven to be better than dino oils for overall protection, he stated > that the man made oils don't transfer heat away as well as dinos do. > Now, I am not saying that this guy is a total idiot, but I WILL say > that he appeared to be a total idiot. He IS a total idiot. Tell him to read the 3-part oil series published last year by Motorcycle Consumer News (in which Hondaline oils performed relatively poorly, compared to others, with specific warnings of possible clutch slipping problems, due to moly additives). ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'David Kelly'" , RVPC800@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: OH NO! Threaded Oil. Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:05:24 -0500 Synthetic oil may be chemically identical. But it is not *emotionally* identical. Since our PCs are beings (many with names), we must treat them with sensitive emotional care, and not just chemical (dietary) care. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@HiWAAY.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:02 AM To: RVPC800@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: OH NO! Another oil thread. RVPC800@aol.com writes: > Hiyall > > Just when I think that I heard it all, a charming fellow down at my local > Honda dealer just told me today that I could actually be damaging my engine > by using Mobil 1 and not Honda oils in it. When I asked him how this could > possibly be given that the synthetics have proven to be better than dino oils > for overall protection, he stated that the man made oils don't transfer heat > away as well as dinos do. Now, I am not saying that this guy is a total > idiot, but I WILL say that he appeared to be a total idiot. But now I am > wondering, could there be any shred of truth to what he is claiming I wonder? > I neglected to ask him where he got his information. I rather doubt that I > would have been able to tell me anyway though. Yet another example of why a professional mechanic is not the best person to trust with your mechanical toys. Synthetic oil is oil. That seems hard for some people to understand. It is made of exactly the same chemicals as refined oil. The difference is with a synthetic additive process (not what is usually meant by "oil additives") the synthetic oil engineer takes an empty jar and puts in it only what he wants. The refined oil engineer takes a jar full of crude oil and filters out what he doesn't want. That's the difference. Ever notice the root words in "refine"? As in "refined oil". Relates to the use of a sieve to sort grains and ground grains at the mill. The stuff that falls thru is known as "fines". Re-fine-ing suggests the use of multiple sized sieves to get the grains bigger than one sieve but smaller than another. And that's just what an oil refinery does. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:08:09 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo To: Dave Klein Cc: PC800 --- Dave Klein wrote: > Why don't you just post the photo to the List?! Oh, Oh, someone just opened a can of worms! I am sure you know why by now or soon will. ;-) ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert (a.k.a. Ketchup) PCRC #46, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:55:55 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:55:55 Hi Chuck! >From: "Chuck Chiodini" >I've had my bike up past 100 mph a "few" times and my Rifle 22" >windshield gave me no problems. Where did you hear they "bend"... I didn't hear but experienced my myself. Back in 2 years ago I rode into the Death Valley with Joyce Calvert, Tom Humphrey and a bunch of other riders on beemers, ducks, Wing, Harley etc, on John Lafreniere's 89 PC, with a +5 Rifle installed. I think it is a +5 as it is the same height as mine. We rode near 100mph no for long, just for some instance. The PC has the power to keep up with the group, only the Rifle bended a lot, just like it was going to break. Dunno of that was because the hot temperature, heading wind or the height, maybe all but if the shield is made with thick material, polycarbonate or acrylic, that should be improved. >Rifle base without the Rifle logo for a more stock look, I think it > >compliments the color scheme on my '89... Mine has the Rifle logo removed, painted matching the '90 candy red and have a red Honda Civic emblem attached onto it, the red color is amazingly match to the bike candy color and just looked like stock. - Philips _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:00:31 -0600 "Re: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield" (Feb 8, 3:55pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The ST1100 alike PC800 shield Crossing the central valley of CA, at temperatures way over 110, I experienced my +5 clearview getting "floppy". It didn't bend, it just seemed way more wobbly than normal. Oh, yeah I wanted out of the heat, and was running with traffic on the interstate, 85 or so. As soon as I started climbing up into the San Diego coastal range and the temperature dropped below 100, it stabilized and showed no damage. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:16:33 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Funny Photo Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:16:31 +0100 > From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net[SMTP:LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net] > Why don't you just post the photo to the List?! > I'd like to see it! > Fact, i'd like to see more pictures on this list! PC related of Course!! > Who says it's not proper to post pictures to this List? > Dave > First of all this list will automatically delete messages with attachments. Lots of people here with incredibly slow connections, whether by choice or not. Even a couple of text messages can be a pain to download for them apparently (cable here.. 60kb/s), let alone pictures. That's why I set up www.ipcrc.org so that people can put their PC pics online. Check it out for yourself... Revills picture is not a PC picture, but I tried to upload it to the files section of the APCO2001 list but was unable to yesterday due to congestion. You might know it already, it's called "bombsquad". I'll try to upload it again 2nite. Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" , Subject: Re: PC800: ST1100, Rifle, Clearview (was Which Windshield is best???) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:27:37 -0800 The Clearview has a slight curve to it, deflecting the air up. How much it helps I don't know. Since you are so close, if you want to see a Clearview let me know and we can get together. I live in Marysville, north of Everett. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . . ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" > I've noticed that the ST1100s (at least the new ones) have an interestingly > shaped windshield. Whereas my tall Honda shield has a relatively consistent > radius curve to it, the top few inches of the ST1100's shield turns up, and > this would seem to direct the airflow up and over the rider, as opposed to > focusing it on the rider's helmet, as my windshield does. > > Do either the Clearview or Rifle shields incorporate this kind of "lip", or > are they straight like Honda's? And for those of you who have ridden (or > ride) ST1100s or bikes with similar windshields, how much does that lip > help? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Funny Photo on list Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:36:15 -0800 I personally don't open any emails with attachments unless I am expecting it. So if you send me one, you should send a email the day before telling me to expect it. Also, on message boards when I go on line I don't want to wait for several emails with attachments that will be deleted anyway to finish downloading before I can do anything. For photo's there are better ways of posting (like links to a web site) so listers have a choice to download or not. It just keeps the bandwidth down not only for us, but also on the servers where these message boards are stored. Just my two cents worth. Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com Washington state http://wills-domain.com 96 PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:46:09 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil To: Daniel.MacKay@dal.ca, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Daniel, I couldn't have said it better myself! There are just so many variables and so many outside forces that have a direct effect on how long your motorcycle will last, i.e., have a useful life... I have always thought that as long as you don't trash it, maintain it with what the maker recommends, and don't get yourself runover, and have a little luck, my PC, as other bikes I have had, will provide me with good service for a long time. Of course, all of my bikes except for one have been Hondas so maybe I'm a bit biased. I say don't worry about the syn-dino oil wars... Don't worry how much slipperier a K555 is compared to the ME880 (flame suit on). There are just too many pleasures out there to get caught up in all of this... It reminds me of one of my former coworkers at Firestone Tire where I was as service manager there. This guy changed his oil every 2500 miles, rotated his tires every 5,000, drained his coolant every like 10,000 and just hyper-meticulously maintained his Toyota Paseo... At 43,000 miles, if I remember correctly, his timing belt snapped ruining his head and top end. Valve popped a hole in the motor, and it was out of warranty... Repair bill? $3700! And that was for a used engine and new head... Oh well, I'm rambling... I think I'll Zaino the PC today ... its finally above F 70! Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC
    luck, my PC, as other bikes I have had, will provide me with good service for
    a long time.  Of course, all of my bikes except for one have been Hondas so
    maybe I'm a bit biased.

    I say don't worry about the syn-dino oil wars...  Don't worry how much
    slipperier a K555 is compared to the ME880 (flame suit on).  There are just
    too many pleasures out there to get caught up in all of this...

    It reminds me of one of my former coworkers at Firestone Tire where I was as
    service manager there.  This guy changed his oil every 2500 miles, rotated
    his tires every 5,000, drained his coolant every like 10,000 and just
    hyper-meticulously maintained his Toyota Paseo...  At 43,000 miles, if I
    remember correctly, his timing belt snapped ruining his head and top end.  
    Valve popped a hole in the motor, and it was out of warranty...  Repair bill?
     $3700!  And that was for a used engine and new head...

    Oh well, I'm rambling...  I think I'll Zaino the PC today ... its finally
    above F 70!

    Troy Doyle
    '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M
    Summerville, SC Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:53:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:53:25 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Which Windshield is best??? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/7/2001 4:32:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, rstar@aa.net writes: > > > Us folks with the Clearview's think they are the best, and the Rifle riders > like theirs. I would do a search of the archives for lots of comments. How > tall depends on you, and if you like looking through the shield or over it. > > Will Edwards pc800rider@wills-domain.com > I'm convinced that the Hondaline Tall is the best looking! But having had a Clearview on my Helix and noting some of the responses of the Clearview crowd, I'd might go with the Clearview, just for the added wind protection... But to spend more money to replace my good shield cant be justified to my perpetually empty wallet! But if there were a PC rider with a Clearview mounted in my vicinity... Troy Doyle (with the only PC in Charleston, probably) '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC

    Will Edwards   pc800rider@wills-domain.com




    I'm convinced that the Hondaline Tall is the best looking!  But having had a
    Clearview on my Helix and noting some of the responses of the Clearview
    crowd, I'd might go with the Clearview, just for the added wind protection...
     But to spend more money to replace my good shield cant be justified to my
    perpetually empty wallet!  But if there were a PC rider with a Clearview
    mounted in my vicinity...

    Troy Doyle (with the only PC in Charleston, probably)
    '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M
    Summerville, SC     Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:04:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:04:43 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/8/2001 12:48:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, HondaPC800Rider@aol.com writes: > Valve popped a hole in the motor, and it was out of warranty... Er, that is "popped a hole in the #2 piston" Troy Doyle (proofreader out to lunch) '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:07:11 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Don't Worry About Synthetic Oil To: Daniel.MacKay@dal.ca, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/8/2001 12:49:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca writes: > > Troy: > > ehehehhe thanks dude! What is Zaino ?? > > > -- > It is positively the best stuff I have ever used... www.zainobros.com Troy Doyle '97 PC800 "Gabrielle" and '01 Chrysler 300M Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:08:45 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: Ron Grant , PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist > Ron Grant wrote: > Now she is a sensible young lady, but really has no local cyclist to advise > her, and I want to give her some reasons NOT to start out with such a fast > 'crotch rocket.' Ron, I understand what you mean. Here is a very good one: Have her price the insurance cost for A ZX6R for a rider with zero experience. Unless her pockets are deep, I bet it will give her pause. Of course, training and practice are the key to a good start. Maybe you could steer her twoards the Ninja 500? Good luck! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.aeroinc.net with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098309) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:25:22 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:23:53 -0600 "Maybe you could steer her towards the Ninja 500? " Or maybe even a Ninja 250 or a Virago 250--that is if you can find and one of these around. "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:50:04 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: ST1100, Rifle, Clearview (was Which Windshield is best ???) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:49:58 +0100 > From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" > > I've noticed that the ST1100s (at least the new ones) have an > interestingly > > shaped windshield. Whereas my tall Honda shield has a relatively > consistent > > radius curve to it, the top few inches of the ST1100's shield turns up, > And for those of you who have ridden (or > ride) ST1100s or bikes with > similar windshields, how much does that lip > help? > Appearances can fool. The upper part of the windscreen is the same angle approximately as the PC's windscreens (Honda/Rifle/Clearview/ Secdem/MDI etc), only the bottom part is at a shallow angle in order to fit it on the more aerodynamicaly shaped nose of the ST. I have the tallest MDI screen available on my ST (plus 12.5 cm) which is taller and wider, curved round and with the "cateyes". For me it's a perfect screen, relatively quiet and comfortable. This could be because of it's width, length, shape (fact that it has a rounded shaped edge or standard ST's upward angling), cateyes or all of them combined. I look over it about 5cm's. Pics on www.st1100.net . I think if one would be able to mount the ST screen on the PC the upper part of the screen would angle forward. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:03:58 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson , PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist Michael & Marlisa Gunderson wrote: > > "Maybe you could steer her towards the Ninja 500? " > > Or maybe even a Ninja 250 or a Virago 250--that is if you can find and one > of these around. I was about to say a Ninja 250, but it really is not a good begginers bike (and this is not just MNSHO). To get any satifactory performance out the thing it requires that you rev it up above 10k rpms, which needs the skills of an experienced rider, not a novice. As for the Virago, well, the lady obviously prefers sportbikes, so I didn't even think about a micro-cruiser (but it is a pretty good bike BTW) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:09:25 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Advice for new motorcyclist Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:09:23 +0100 > From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson[SMTP:mrgvideo@aeroinc.net] > Or maybe even a Ninja 250 or a Virago 250--that is if you can find and one > of these around. > If she likes a ZX6R she's never gonna like a Virago. And I think the virago's ergonomics (if any) will scare her of motorcycling also.. BTW.. did you know most accidents happen with light motorcycles ? I think it has more to do with the average riding experience of light motorcycle riders (usually beginners) than with the fact that they are light. Bikes aren't dangerous.. crashing is...and it's still usually the pilots that cause the crashing, not the bikes. But I'm sure new riders on heavy bikes have even worse stats.. FWIW.. Emile ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id G8GG1904.SGQ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:10:21 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:05:18 +0100 From: Hans Geelen To: Bert Satter CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable A few important Dutch values are: 5000rpm 5th 125kmh 3000rpm 5th 75kmh 3000rpm 3rd 50kmh Hans. Bert Satter wrote: > > Dear listers, > > The cable is broken, and I have to wait a week to get a new one. > I'm wondering whether there is someone who has a kind of conversion-table, > so that I can monitor my speed using RPM. > > Here in Holland you'll find a speedtrap on every corner and highway, so > please help > me to prevent this! > > Greeting from the land of tulips and cheese > > Bert Satter > Amersfoort, The Netherlands > '89 PC White > 'Burtmobile' > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:15:58 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: Bert Satter , "'Hans Geelen'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:15:38 +0100 > From: Hans Geelen[SMTP:hans.geelen@planet.nl] > A few important Dutch values are: > 5000rpm 5th 125kmh > 3000rpm 5th 75kmh > 3000rpm 3rd 50kmh > Now I'm pretty sure 5000 in 5th was exactly 65mph=120km/h indicated, which should be around 72mph=115km/h true speed on the PC. Anyone else who can confirm ? Emile ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:02:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ST1100, Rifle, Clearview / How they work . Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:02:15 -0600 >From: "Will Edwards" > >The Clearview has a slight curve to it, deflecting the air up. How much it >helps I don't know. Hummmmm, the aerodynamics of the PC, or any motorcycle for that matter, has always interested me. How the air flows smoothly around certain parts of the body parts, how it eddies and whorls. Seems there should be a way for the average handyman type to set up a sort of wind tunnel in one's garage or the garage of a buddy. Maybe use an electric or gas powered leaf blower for the wind source. That should give about a 100+ mph wind. What to use to highlight the wind or make it visible? Wind tunnels use streams of smoke. That might not be best for home use. Maybe a long piece of yarn, say 10 or so feet, red or white to be visible. Hummm. On a quiet day in the driveway one might be able to use a fine stream of water from the hose, hummmmm. Big sheet of black plastic for a photo backdrop with pictures from a side view or some other color for the 94's and 95's. A video camera or 35mm to snap pictures with. Come on gang, this has possibilities !! Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "The dust of the traveled Road, Shall touch my hands and face." Carl Sandburg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:09:39 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel & Ginger Kopp" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:09:39 -0800 > >Come on gang, this has possibilities !! > >Des, >Okmulgee, Okla. >95 PC, Dream Weaver >"The dust of the traveled Road, >Shall touch my hands and face." Carl Sandburg I like it! Let's use your garage. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:17:58 -0800 Emile, The measurements on the chart that I referenced earlier (http://www.members.home.com/bdpickett/bp/maint/speedchart.html) do not go quite that high. However, if you extrapolate the data, @ 5000 rpm in 5th gear, you would get 72.5 mph (117 km/h) true speed (GPS), which would be about 75 mph (121 km/h) indicated. I suspect that the indicated speed you mentioned was supposed to be 75mph=120km/h, so this is pretty close to the extrapolation. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/bp/main/blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK [mailto:Emile.Nossin@klm.nl] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:16 PM To: Bert Satter; 'Hans Geelen' Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: RE: PC800: Broken Speedometer-cable > From: Hans Geelen[SMTP:hans.geelen@planet.nl] > A few important Dutch values are: > 5000rpm 5th 125kmh > 3000rpm 5th 75kmh > 3000rpm 3rd 50kmh > Now I'm pretty sure 5000 in 5th was exactly 65mph=120km/h indicated, which should be around 72mph=115km/h true speed on the PC. Anyone else who can confirm ? Emile *************