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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Twin Max
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 02:11:53 -0500

I have a Twin-Max and like it.
Contact me off list for any specifics.
-eddie
transalp1@mindspring.com





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From: "Ron Jansen" <ErEl.Jee@planet.nl>
To: "PC800 Usa" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Sticky starter
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:30:24 +0100



Last week i started the bike up and drove off, while riding i noticed a =
strange=20
sound when i  shiffted gear, so stopped to check, the sound only was =
there
when i used the clutch and it took a little while b4 i realized that my =
starter
button was stuck in engaged en the starter engine was running.
Pulled the starterbutton back and it was allright.
I drove for awhile and parked the bike for a couple of days.
When i tried to use it again it wouldn,t start, only a clicking sound =
from=20
underneath the seat. Called my mechanic and explained what had happend
and he was afraid i might have burned out the starterengine. Brought =
bike to the shop.
Today he(mechanic) called , the starterengine is ok , what happend was =
that a regulator
burned out and this stopped the battery from being charged while riding.
Still a costly repair but not as bad as a starterengine would have been.
Maybe this can help some of you check the buttons as a preventive =
meassure and save
some money.=20

Ron Jansen
Red Hot 32K

<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and he was afraid i might have burned =
out the=20
starterengine. Brought bike to the shop.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Today he(mechanic) called , the =
starterengine is ok=20
, what happend was that a regulator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>burned out and this stopped the battery =
from being=20
charged while riding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still a costly repair but not as bad as =
a=20
starterengine would have been.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe this can help some of you check =
the buttons=20
as&nbsp;a preventive meassure and save</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>some money.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ron Jansen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red Hot 32K</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:43:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Selden Deemer <libssd@emory.edu>
To: PC 800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: led lights 

"eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com> writes:

> Anyone seen these?
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=62583

Sport Touring Accessories sells a large variety of LED accessory lights
in various styles and sizes. STA will almost certainly have a booth at
the CycleWorld show, which (if memory serves) will be in Atlanta mid-
February. STA also has the most reasonable shipping charge policy in
the business: flat $4 for almost any shipment, regardless of value.

======================================================================
Selden Deemer
Atlanta, Georgia                               EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:57:42 -0400
To: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: RE: PC800: Drink holder?

At 17:10 00/11/30, Goldberg, Saul wrote:
>EEEEEEEW!!!!! Of all the geeeross things I've heerd, that is DEFINITELY one
>of them!

You have lived a sheltered life, my friend.


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Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada


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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:14:32 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Thanks, Darryl

Last week, in response to the discussion on stinky helmets, Darryl (?spelling)
Tschopke sent me a helmet liner he had gotten as a freebee with something.

Thanks, Darryl.  I apologise for waiting so long to acknowledge receipt.  I
have misplaced your direct email address.  (That's why I'm posting this to the
group.)

For those who are interested, this helmet liner is a little scullcap like
religious jews wear, with velcro where their's would have embroidery.  It
sticks to the fuzzy lining in the helmet, and is very comfortable. It should
make a big
difference in the goop that collects on the inside of the helmet, because it is
removable and washable.  Great idea.  Wish I'd thought of it.

Revill Dunn
Rider of Whirby

Pushing onward through the fog this morning.
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From: "Jessie Lim" <joopling@singnet.com.sg>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 01:49:02 +0800



To all PC riders,

I'm a PC rider from Singapore.Currently, looking for a new or used =
backrest for my girlfriend.Kindly could someone out there email me all =
relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls contact me.Thank =
You!

David Lim=20
dlimkw@yahoo.com
02.12.2000

there=20
email me all relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls =
contact=20
me.Thank You!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Lim </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dlimkw@yahoo.com">dlimkw@yahoo.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>02.12.2000</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:21:15 -0600
        "PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net" (Dec  2,  1:49am)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net

I thought girlfriends WERE backrests?  At least when you can get them on
the passenger seat.

Revill Dunn
Rider of Whirby
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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Oh, Noooo!
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:20:20 -0800

Happy to hear yours will be fixed. Mine did the same thing this last summer,
still have not got it replaced.  I went through about the same mental
process when I saw a puddle of fluid underneath my bike. I was just glad it
just the strut.

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
.
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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
> Saturday, I started the tupperwarectomy.   Pulled the vents, opened the
trunk
> to make it easier to get the side panel off, and the lid won't stay open
at
> all.  AND, there is a puddle of strangely clear and thick oil in the slot
under
> the gas strut holder opener.
>
> Yes friends, the TRUNK LID STRUT had leaked it's silicon oil.  Hooray!
Yippie!


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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: "PC800 Mailing List \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: "Long Distance" Riding Resources
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:23:03 -0800

It's a great site, full of useful information and links.

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
.
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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: PC800: "Long Distance" Riding Resources


> Greetings!
>
> I don't know if any of you have stumbled on this, but it is a web site
that
> has compiled a list of resources (some web, some part #'s, some phone #'s)
> for the nebulous world of "long distance" riding (presumably Iron-Butt
> stuff)
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~webmaster10/ld/
>
> Pretty cool, some links lead to stuff you've undoubtedly seen before.
What's
> nice to me is that it's all on one page. As always, YMMV.
>


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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: "Jessie Lim" <joopling@singnet.com.sg>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:31:19 -0800



If you can't find a stock Honda backrest, you might try a Givi trunk =
setup with their backrest.

Will=20
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jessie Lim=20
  To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:49 AM
  Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net


  To all PC riders,

  I'm a PC rider from Singapore.Currently, looking for a new or used =
backrest for my girlfriend.Kindly could someone out there email me all =
relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls contact me.Thank =
You!

  David Lim=20
  dlimkw@yahoo.com
  02.12.2000

there=20
  email me all relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls =
contact=20
  me.Thank You!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Lim </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:dlimkw@yahoo.com">dlimkw@yahoo.com</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>02.12.2000</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "Jessie Lim" <joopling@singnet.com.sg>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:43:02 -0600



Hi David,
I'm sure someone on the list can locate a backrest.  You can contact our =
favorite Honda parts place, Honda of Milpitas in California through =
their website. =20

My question is this:   Where on your girlfriend do you plan to bolt the =
support brackets?  ;-)

Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jessie Lim=20
  To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 11:49 AM
  Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net


  To all PC riders,

  I'm a PC rider from Singapore.Currently, looking for a new or used =
backrest for my girlfriend.Kindly could someone out there email me all =
relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls contact me.Thank =
You!

  David Lim=20
  dlimkw@yahoo.com
  02.12.2000

;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ralph Couey<BR>Columbia, MO<BR>'95 PC800&nbsp; "Seishin No =
Yomichi"<BR>"A=20
life lived without risk is no life at all."</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:joopling@singnet.com.sg" =
title=3Djoopling@singnet.com.sg>Jessie=20
  Lim</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:pc800@hpc.uh.edu"=20
  title=3Dpc800@hpc.uh.edu>pc800@hpc.uh.edu</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 01, 2000 =
11:49=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> PC800: Greetings from =
<A=20
  href=3D"http://www.pc800.net">www.pc800.net</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all PC riders,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a PC rider from =
Singapore.Currently, looking=20
  for a new or used backrest for my girlfriend.Kindly could someone out =
there=20
  email me all relevant information.If u have the abovementioned, pls =
contact=20
  me.Thank You!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Lim </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:dlimkw@yahoo.com">dlimkw@yahoo.com</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>02.12.2000</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "Wakefield, Steve L." <slwakefield@verizon.com>
Cc: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Twin Max
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:33:01 -0500

Steve,

Check with M.A.P. Engineering.
http://www.map-engineering.com/accessories.htm

-eddie

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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 20:32:30 -0500
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: "Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT" <pjbt@mediaone.net>
Subject: PC800: Windshield R&R?


The Good news:  My Rifle +5" windshield arrived today!

The Bad news:  The instruction sheet that came with it has no detailed 
instructions or pics!

Can anyone refer me to a web page that describes the removal and 
replacement of a PC windshield system?

Thanks!

Peter J.B. Teague
N1ACT
Marblehead, MA
'96 PC800 "Old Ironsides"  (PCRC #1239)
Home page:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/pjbt/HomePage


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From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:39:41 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield R&R?
To: pjbt@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I am recalling this solely by memory, so bear with me.  You first must remove 
both side mirrors which are attached by two allen bolts per side.  You can 
find the allen bolts by pushing the mirror in towards the bike.  After you 
remove those, you will need to disconnect the turn signal/plite connector...
Under where the mirrors used to be, you will find another fastener, one on 
each side, I believe it is a Phillips head screw...

Next, you will need to remove the two tiny Phillips head screws that hold the 
black windshield vent to the fascia, be careful NOT to lose these...  Then, 
remove the painted fascia and you will then see the 5 large screws that hold 
on the shield...

As far as specific Rifle installation info goes, I have none, but I hope this 
helped...

Troy Doyle
1997 PC800 Gabrielle
and now...  2001 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 Sport "Mello Yello"
Summerville, SC
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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:47:04 -0500 (EST)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:47:03 EST
Subject: Fwd: PC800: Windshield R&R?
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu





Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137



Return-path: <BillandScoot@cs.com>

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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
Full-name: BillandScoot
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:46:23 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield R&R?
To: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com

I just let my mirrors "hang" when I changed to my Clearview. Was suggested by 
somebody, don't remember why other than it had to do with difficulty 
reattaching the cables? wires? 

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137


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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:38:50 -0600
Importance: Normal



Hi Peter,

Can I ask you why you chose a Rifle +5" when you are 5"10" high?

I am 6"1" and the +5" is too high for me. I too found the stock shield to be
turbulent and loud but also could not see over a +5" high shield, especially
since the angle of attack on either the Rifle or Clearview is quite a bit
less.

I can scan the pages from my PC-800 manual if you need further instructions
to replace the sheild, however Troy's description is excellent and you
should have no problem making the change.

You may want to consider upgrading to a higher wattage headlight bulb while
you have the sheild off and have easy access to the back of the headlight
lense. (Napa has 80/100w for about $12.00)

Enjoy "Old Ironsides" or should that be "Old Plasticsides"

Best wishes,

Todd Teulon
South Texas "Zeniac"
97 PC-800


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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Windshield R&R?
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:41:54 -0600
Importance: Normal



Hi Peter,

Can I ask you why you chose a Rifle +5" when you are 5"10" high?

I am 6"1" and the +5" is too high for me. I too found the stock shield to be
turbulent and loud but also could not see over a +5" high shield, especially
since the angle of attack on either the Rifle or Clearview is quite a bit
less.

I can scan the pages from my PC-800 manual if you need further instructions
to replace the sheild, however Troy's description is excellent and you
should have no problem making the change.

You may want to consider upgrading to a higher wattage headlight bulb while
you have the sheild off and have easy access to the back of the headlight
lense. (Napa has 80/100w for about $12.00)

Enjoy "Old Ironsides" or should that be "Old Plasticsides"

Best wishes,

Todd Teulon
South Texas "Zeniac"
97 PC-800
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:33 PM
  To: PC800 List
  Subject: PC800: Windshield R&R?


  The Good news:  My Rifle +5" windshield arrived today!

  The Bad news:  The instruction sheet that came with it has no detailed
instructions or pics!

  Can anyone refer me to a web page that describes the removal and
replacement of a PC windshield system?

  Thanks!

  Peter J.B. Teague
  N1ACT
  Marblehead, MA
  '96 PC800 "Old Ironsides"  (PCRC #1239)
  Home page:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/pjbt/HomePage




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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 03:43:12 -0000
From: "Rocky " <rocheux@juno.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Paint touch up stick for sale 

FIRST LET ME TELL YOU-TO REPLY TO THIS AD YOU MUST MUST not click 
reply but reply to stanrocklin@yahoo.com

I have a never used red paint touch up stick for sale. It is for the 
red color of the 96 Honda Pacific coast I sold last April.

Well reviewed in Motorcycle Consumer News.

Best offer.  I used to be known as Rocky on the net.

replyto;stanrocklin@yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:13:41 -0800 (PST)
From: "J. A. Kopp" <JAKopp@excite.com>
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Subject: PC800: Touch up paint stick wanted
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Speaking of touch-up paint, can anyone recommend a brand, color, and/or
product for touching up the silver/gray color on the lower half of the '94
and '95 models? I've got a couple marks above both footpegs that suggest the
previous owner of my steed rode with stirrups or something.

Thanks,

Joel Kopp
'95 Coaster: "Night Vision" (whaddyathink?)
Seattle

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|  I have a never used red paint touch up stick for sale. It is for the 
|  red color of the 96 Honda Pacific coast I sold last April.
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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 12:28:56 -0000
From: "Rocky " <rocheux@juno.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: cost of paint stick

I have one who is interested in the price of the pc800 1996 model red.
I have no clue as to what I paid for it. Does anyone know what the 
price of those is?  I bought it at the annual motorcycle show in NYC 
at the Javits Center last year.

PLEASE REPLY TO rocheux@juno.com 
or stanrocklin@yahoo.com

Rocky in VA

Clicking REPLY will NOT get to me as I am not on the list
Thank you

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From: "Fenwick" <rfenwick@core.com>
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Subject: PC800: Survey... Hi-Way pegs for the PC.
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 06:30:19 -0600

Folks:

Here is an opportunity to make your opinion known!

I am forwarding this to the list for Wayne Doenges of Ft. Wayne, IN.  He
is undertaking a project as a part of his coursework in college to design a
Hi-Way Peg for the PC, and he needs *opinions* regarding the pegs.
He needs our help!  Please take a few minutes and respond.

Wayne rides a 1997 PC, and I met him at Honda Homecoming 2000.  He was
also a participant on my Fall Covered Bridges Ride.

Below is an "introduction" from Wayne.  Please respond to Wayne at
rcwarthog@fwi.com .

**************************

Dear Fellow Pacific Coast Riders

My name is Wayne Doenges and I ride a 1997 PC800.
I am also going to college.
One of the classes I am attending is 'Product Design'. My team has decided
to do a design for a set of hi-way pegs for the Pacific Coast.
The second page of this document is a survey that will help us design them.
Would you please take a few minutes and fill it out? After you are done,
please return it to me at rcwarthog@fwi.com.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Survey

In our quest to build a better Hi-Way peg for the Honda pacific Coast we
would like you to take a few minutes to fill out this survey. Your help
would be
greatly appreciated.

Background:

Age?

Gender?

How long have you been riding the Pacific Coast?   Years

How long have you been riding motorcycles?    Years


Survey:

Have you used hi-way pegs before (Y/N)?

Do you have them on your PC (Y/N)?

If not. Why?

On the PC, what feature would make you want to buy them?
(Pick one)

Functionality
Affordability
Ease of use
Comfort
Looks

In a few lines please summarize what you would like to see in a hi-way peg.

Thank you

Wayne Doenges
Keep on Coastn



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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 07:41:52 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: Touch up paint stick wanted
To: JAKopp@excite.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

JAKopp@excite.com writes:
>Speaking of touch-up paint, can anyone recommend a brand, color, and/or
>product for touching up the silver/gray color on the lower half of the '94
>and '95 models? I've got a couple marks above both footpegs that suggest the
>previous owner of my steed rode with stirrups or something.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joel Kopp
>'95 Coaster: "Night Vision" (whaddyathink?)
>Seattle

http://www.color-rite.com/ sells factory matched paint for everything. I had my
local body shop repaint my Givi lid to match my '98 and it is perfect. They
also sell the touch up paint sticks, but your gray may not be a simple one
color paint job. Color-Rite will know for sure.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:31:35 -0500
To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Touch up paint stick wanted
Cc: JAKopp@excite.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

At 7:41 AM -0500 12/2/00, PC800 Rider wrote:

>
>http://www.color-rite.com/ sells factory matched paint for 
>everything. I had my
>local body shop repaint my Givi lid to match my '98 and it is perfect. They
>also sell the touch up paint sticks, but your gray may not be a simple one
>color paint job. Color-Rite will know for sure.
>
>Tim Davies
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"


I bought two sticks of the lower grey color for my 95 PC800 from Yuri 
at Color-Rite at Americade 1999, and the color was not exactly a 
match.    I mentioned it to him at the next Cycle World show where I 
saw him, and he provided me with yet another stick, thinking maybe I 
had a 'bad one' or something.  It still seems darker than the stock 
color, and it is noticeable, but not as noticeable as when the silver 
was completely scratched off and the black plastic from underneath 
was showing through.

YMMV, Operators are standing by, Your actual results may differ, some 
items shown available as an option, do not try this at home, etc., 
etc.,


Ride safe.

fsl
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	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:46:25 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:46:25 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Touch up paint stick wanted
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



In a message dated 12/2/2000 9:31:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
fsl@borgconsulting.com writes:


> At 7:41 AM -0500 12/2/00, PC800 Rider wrote:
> 
> >
> >http://www.color-rite.com/ sells factory matched paint for 
> >everything. I had my
> >local body shop repaint my Givi lid to match my '98 and it is perfect. They
> >also sell the touch up paint sticks, but your gray may not be a simple one
> >color paint job. Color-Rite will know for sure.
> >
> >Tim Davies
> >Seneca Falls, New York 13148
> >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"
> 
> 
> I bought two sticks of the lower grey color for my 95 PC800 from Yuri 
> at Color-Rite at Americade 1999, and the color was not exactly a 
> match.    I mentioned it to him at the next Cycle World show where I 
> saw him, and he provided me with yet another stick, thinking maybe I 
> had a 'bad one' or something.  It still seems darker than the stock 
> color, and it is noticeable, but not as noticeable as when the silver 
> was completely scratched off and the black plastic from underneath 
> was showing through.
> 
> YMMV, Operators are standing by, Your actual results may differ, some 
> items shown available as an option, do not try this at home, etc., 
> etc.,
> 
> 
> Ride safe.
> 
> fsl
> 

Earlier this fall, I went to my local Honda dealer and bought some "Honda" 
touch-up paint.  The price was right $3.95 a container.  They had the lower 
color for the '89 in stock but had to order the Pearl White from the 
warehouse.  The price was right! (no reference to the game show intended).  I 
tried some of the white for a couple of small marks on my project bike and it 
seemed to match OK.  But needed the application of several coats.  I ordered 
some Color-Right paint for my previous bike, a '97 Suzuki Intruder and it 
matched pretty good. It was a two step process, putting on the undercoat (a 
silver) and then applying the top coat (a burgundy red).  It worked OK, but I 
thought it was a little expensive compared (19.95 a tube) to buying OEM from 
Honda. Personally, I think the OEM matched better in comparison.

Of course YMMV.  But I thought it was worth noting that Honda does or did 
offer touch up paint for the PC800.  All they asked for from me was the color 
code for my PC800.

Hope this helps!

Tom Fraser
Manassas, VA
'89 PC800 "Singer"
iPCRC #1001

<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Hope this helps!
<BR>
<BR>Tom Fraser
<BR>Manassas, VA
<BR>'89 PC800 "Singer"
<BR>iPCRC #1001</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:57:30 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: cost of paint stick
To: rocheux@juno.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

rocheux@juno.com writes:
>I have one who is interested in the price of the pc800 1996 model red.
>I have no clue as to what I paid for it. Does anyone know what the 
>price of those is?  I bought it at the annual motorcycle show in NYC 
>at the Javits Center last year.
>
>PLEASE REPLY TO rocheux@juno.com 
>or stanrocklin@yahoo.com
>
>Rocky in VA
>
Hi Stan,
Colored pens are $9.95 and the clear coat pens are $6.00 acording to
Color-Rite's web site (http://www.color-rite.com/prices.htm). I have the
printed instructions from Color-Rite on how to use their pens and I can send
them to you in a PDF file so it can be email to whomever buys it.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <Thfwsf@aol.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Touch up paint stick wanted
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 07:02:53 -0800



At 3.95 this probably isn't an issue unless unavailability makes it one, =


but...

this sounds like something that could be shared.  Opened paint doesn't =
have much of a shelf life, and I'd sure be willing to foot some freight =
and half the cost of something that would help a few scratches in ol' =
Secondo.  Previous owner induced, of course.

Note that by reading the sig below you can ascertain the color of the =
bike.  I thought I skillfully avoided another dreaded color thread.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Noir"




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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:59:20 -0500
Subject: PC800: Paint Stick Directions
To: rocheux@juno.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

rocheux@juno.com writes:
>I have one who is interested in the price of the pc800 1996 model red.
>I have no clue as to what I paid for it. Does anyone know what the 
>price of those is?  I bought it at the annual motorcycle show in NYC 
>at the Javits Center last year.
>
>PLEASE REPLY TO rocheux@juno.com 
>or stanrocklin@yahoo.com
>
>Rocky in VA

Stan,

I forgot to add that the directions are also on their web site at
http://www.color-rite.com/howtotouchuppen.htm

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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From: "Fenwick" <rfenwick@core.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Touch up paint notes 
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:24:06 -0600

Here's my experience with the Honda touch up paint...  I have a 1990 model
in Candy Glory Red for those who are interested.

The Honda touch up for the Candy Glory Red is an absolute disaster.  Do not
waste your money.  Once applied to the bike, it looks orange instead of red.
I tried the Color-Rite two-part touch up and it was only marginally better
(and cost *way* too much... it was too dark)  I ended up using a Dupli-Color
touch up found at many Auto Parts stores.  It is code SF FM 317.  Ford Motor
Company "Electric Currant Red", used from year 1990 to 1996.  It is the
closest match that I have found yet (and happened to be the cheapest, too).

However, the Honda touch up for the Griffin Grey Metallic (which is the
lower color for the 1990, 1994 and 1995) matched better than I ever
expected.  It was a complete reversal from the Red.  I don't think it could
have matched any better...

The Griffin Grey Metallic is color code NH-292M, and the Honda part code for
the touch up bottles is 3480787.  I unfortunately do not have the part
number for that, it isn't listed in my parts book.

Rich Fenwick
rfenwick@core.com
http://pc_800.tripod.com
1990 Honda PC800
HRCA - HM725413
AMA - 361534



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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 12:41:06 -0500
From: "John T. Quinn" <jtq@together.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Helmet Pin Lock?

Hi Everyone,

    My bike's in the barn for the winter so now I'm thinking of all the
little things I need for the season next year.  I have a chrome helmet
pin on my handlebars.  I've looked high and low for a lock to fit the
pin so I can secure my helmet when I'm away from the bike.  I've tried
Aubuchon hardware, found a little brass padlock, but it didn't work. 
I'm assuming the pin is designed so a lock can be placed over the D-ring
to secure the helmet.  Anyone got any ideas where I can get one?

Thanks,

John T. Quinn
1990 PC 800
"The Eagle"
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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        "Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT" <pjbt@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield R&R?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 10:04:29 -0800



Troy pretty much explained it, but I would add not to disconnect the =
electrical plug in the mirrors. I had first installed a Riffle and it's =
instructions stated to just let the mirrors hang next to the fairing =
which I did without any problems. I didn't like the Rifle and sent it =
back and ordered a Clearview. The Clearview's instructions indicated to =
disconnect the wiring & mirrors completely, which I did. But then it =
took forever to get that electrical plug back in correctly. Maybe it was =
just my clumsy hands, but I have removed the shield several times since =
then and always just let the mirrors hang loose.

Will=20
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT=20
  To: PC800 List=20
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:32 PM
  Subject: PC800: Windshield R&R?


  The Good news:  My Rifle +5" windshield arrived today!

  The Bad news:  The instruction sheet that came with it has no detailed =
instructions or pics!

  Can anyone refer me to a web page that describes the removal and =
replacement of a PC windshield system?

  Thanks!

  Peter J.B. Teague
  N1ACT
  Marblehead, MA
  '96 PC800 "Old Ironsides"  (PCRC #1239)
  Home page:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/pjbt/HomePage




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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 13:17:00 -0500
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Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net

TEST

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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
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Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Pin Lock?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 10:26:10 -0800

What I do with my full coverage helmet is run a cable chain through the
helmet and grab rails on either side of the rear seat.  At least a person
would need more than a pocket knife to walk away with the helmet.

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
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Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
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From: "John T. Quinn" <jtq@together.net>
>     My bike's in the barn for the winter so now I'm thinking of all the
> little things I need for the season next year.  I have a chrome helmet
> pin on my handlebars.  I've looked high and low for a lock to fit the
> pin so I can secure my helmet when I'm away from the bike.  I've tried
> Aubuchon hardware, found a little brass padlock, but it didn't work.
> I'm assuming the pin is designed so a lock can be placed over the D-ring
> to secure the helmet.  Anyone got any ideas where I can get one?


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Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 10:27:46 -0800

If this test goes to any riders in Florida, we will have to wait for the
recounts.

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
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Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
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> TEST
>


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HELLO, MY NAME IS MARK FELLURE I LIVE IN COLUMBUS, OHIO AND HAVE BEEN 
RIDING "SCARLETT" FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SHE'S A 1990 BEAUTY, AND WE HAVE 
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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: <jtq@together.net>
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Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Pin Lock?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 14:21:13 -0500

John,

I am only guessing here that the pin you have is slightly tapered, with a
ball-like end?
The only thing I could think of is the remove the pin, dimple the side of
the "ball" with a punch and then drill a small hole through which to run the
brass luggage lock. Not exactly perfect, but it might keep an "honest" thief
away. (A real crook will brake the pin off and take the helmet.)

-eddie

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Subject: PC800: '89 bar end weights
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 19:48:48 

Hi gang,

Within limited time, I fortunately get the mechanic lathed 2 pairs
of weights for '89 model handlebars, with dimensions provided by
Steve Ewens and then polished myself.

Steve will take a pair and the rest pair is overproduced for
anybody who interested in getting one.  Stainless steel M6x55 bolts
are not available since I have no time to shop for those, sorry.
The extra pair is offered on a FCFS basis, so mail me off list.

- Philips
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Subject: PC800: Cold weather pants FS
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 15:26:57 -0500
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FOR SALE: Insulated riding pants by TourMaster. Full length leg zippers,
zippered bib front, adjustable stretch shoulder straps, insulated back.
Almost like a sleeveless suit. Built in gaiters that close with snaps to
prevent cold drafts up the legs. Fully insulated with Thermolite. Fits over
clothing.
Excellent condition, universal color match (black), size Large.
$55.00 includes shipping.

Roger Prince
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From: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: "'PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Seattle Int'l Motorcycle Show - my review
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 13:32:15 -0800 

I just got back from spending a couple of hours at the Show with my family. 

Immediately upon entering into the Exhibition Center we came upon a bunch of Royal Stars lined up in a row with their chrome and bright paint sparkling in the flood lights. Karin really liked the purple one - it didn't matter that it was a cruiser, because it was purple. A little further into the Yamaha display, my 11-year old daughter Maria fell in love with a blue and white TT-R90 dirt bike, because it fit her short legs. I looked, but I didn't see any sport tourers here.

Next was the BMW display. Once again, they had their mechanical display that showed the bare frame, suspension, and drive train of the R1100RT in action. It's a cool display; I saw it last year and I still like it. I do like the looks of the RTs, and there were a bunch of other people around them who seemed to as well. But, I still didn't buy one.

There were a bunch of vintage motorcycles - mostly from the 50's and 60's. But there was a '48 Whizzer, and some Harleys and Indians from the 30's. There was also a Schwinn product that was basically a bicycle with a motor hung on it.

I looked at all the Harleys and said "yeah, yeah, more chrome", but then I came upon a beautiful blue Screaming Eagle, that I thought looked pretty nice. It had more of a sport front end and didn't seem to be the same metal monolith that you usually see, but alas, it was still a Harley. And Karin also pointed out a beautiful purple Harley with a side car for family touring - don't know what model it was, but it was purple.

The Kawasaki display had a cute Eliminator 125, which is a scaled down cruiser that almost fit Maria, and it was only about $2300. While we are not in the market for buying her a bike, she loves to pretend with them. She had a great time sitting on the Kawasaki Police bike too, and its a good thing that there was no power to it, or she would have had the pursuit lights on and the siren blaring. I looked at the single Concours they had; I noted that there was only one other guy who seemed interested in it.

We hit the Honda display in the center of the hall last. There were three of the '01 Goldwings on display. Up on a revolving pedestal was an electric blue one (warning - color thread alert - blue's my favorite). A yellow one and a wine one were on the floor and were surrounded by looky-lous. There were probably 20 people milling around them, so I only got to look at them from a distance. But I quickly noted that the men and women looking at the Wings were all about 20 years older than me. Then I glanced over at the half-dozen CBRs on the floor, and they were surrounded by people 20 years younger than me. So where were the bikes for me? Hmmm ... no Pacific Coasts ... no X-wings. But finally, over behind a couple of Valkyries, and kind of tucked up against one of the display pillars, was a single, red wine-colored ST-1100. I sat on it, with "vroom, vroooom" thoughts going through my head. When I got off, I noticed that there wasn't anyone waiting to jump aboard in my place. I gu!
ess there aren't that many people interested in sport touring bikes, although there were still a bunch of people around the BMW R1100RTs. 

Anyway, we had a great time at the show. Hope everyone else gets a chance to go to one of these.

Bruce Pickett 
Federal Way, WA 
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" 
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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:18:58 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: "Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT" <pjbt@mediaone.net>
Subject: PC800: The Rifle is loaded!


I replaced my stock windshield this afternoon with the tinted Rifle +5".
( http://www.rifle.com , PC800, 24" tall + their 5" black base= $199+ $10 
for tint +S&H)

The R&R was easier than I thought and I have to give the first test ride a 
THUMBS UP!
The extra height SUBSTANTIALLY reduces the sound pressure level and I can 
even hear the engine purrrrr now.  The wind was a little gusty at times 
today and I did notice that the shield sails pretty well too.  (Additional 
rides will determine if it sails TOO well!)

I'll add a page to my web site to describe the removal and replacement of 
the windshield and a report of my first impression.
If the Wx is nice tomorrow, I'll take out the PC and snap a couple of new 
pics for the website.

BTW- I'm in the Boston area and IT'S COLD!  It was sunny today, but below 
freezing while I was replacing the shield.
I hope I get to "test ride" it again before Spring!
+Peter+

P.S.  Thanks to everyone that responded to my msg yesterday for tips on 
replacing the windshield.


Peter J.B. Teague
N1ACT
Marblehead, MA
'96 PC800 "Old Ironsides"  (PCRC #1239)
Home page:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/pjbt/HomePage


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From: "George Hilsinger" <george_hilsinger@hotmail.com>
To: pc800t@mediaone.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu,
        st1100@st1100.com
Subject: Re: PC800: Cold weather pants FS
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:21:58 -0800

Hi Roger, I ran into Bryce Ulrich at the motorcycle show in Seattle last 
night.  He was asking whether you were still on the list.  He was showing 
his LD modified ST1100 but says he is back to riding his PC for the winter.  
I didn't get a current email address for him, but I understand he's working 
for Cascade BMW.

George Hilsinger
Yakima, WA


>From: "Roger Prince" <pc800t@mediaone.net>
>To: "HSTA list" <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>, "pc800 list" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,  
>       "STOC" <st1100@st1100.com>
>Subject: PC800: Cold weather pants FS
>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 15:26:57 -0500
>
>FOR SALE: Insulated riding pants by TourMaster. Full length leg zippers,
>zippered bib front, adjustable stretch shoulder straps, insulated back.
>Almost like a sleeveless suit. Built in gaiters that close with snaps to
>prevent cold drafts up the legs. Fully insulated with Thermolite. Fits over
>clothing.
>Excellent condition, universal color match (black), size Large.
>$55.00 includes shipping.
>
>Roger Prince
>Franklin, MA 02038
>(508) 528-5758
>PC800T@mediaone.net
>PayPal member
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From: "Ben Crisologo" <bcrisologo@hotmail.com>
To: esoloway@nv2.cc.va.us
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 ride schedule in Southern California
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 03:21:54 

I finally made the plunge today and bought a 95 model PC800 from Honda of 
Hollywood.  If anyone wants to ride in the Los Angeles area next Saturday, 
Dec. 9th let me know.  I will be up for it.  I live in the Silver Lake area, 
near Los Feliz.

Ben

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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:49:47 -0800
To: "George Hilsinger" <george_hilsinger@hotmail.com>, pc800t@mediaone.net,
        hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, st1100@st1100.com
From: Jim Alexander <jamesalexander@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Cold weather pants FS

Bryce's current email address is bryceu@worldnet.att.net  or at least that 
is the address he is posting to the ST1100 list from.

Jim Alexander


At 06:21 PM 12/02/2000, George Hilsinger wrote:
>Hi Roger, I ran into Bryce Ulrich at the motorcycle show in Seattle last 
>night.  He was asking whether you were still on the list.  He was showing 
>his LD modified ST1100 but says he is back to riding his PC for the winter.
>I didn't get a current email address for him, but I understand he's 
>working for Cascade BMW.
>
>George Hilsinger
>Yakima, WA
>
>
>>From: "Roger Prince" <pc800t@mediaone.net>
>>To: "HSTA list" <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>, "pc800 list" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
>>       "STOC" <st1100@st1100.com>
>>Subject: PC800: Cold weather pants FS
>>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 15:26:57 -0500
>>
>>FOR SALE: Insulated riding pants by TourMaster. Full length leg zippers,
>>zippered bib front, adjustable stretch shoulder straps, insulated back.
>>Almost like a sleeveless suit. Built in gaiters that close with snaps to
>>prevent cold drafts up the legs. Fully insulated with Thermolite. Fits over
>>clothing.
>>Excellent condition, universal color match (black), size Large.
>>$55.00 includes shipping.
>>
>>Roger Prince
>>Franklin, MA 02038
>>(508) 528-5758
>>PC800T@mediaone.net
>>PayPal member
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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:00:25 -0800
To: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>,
        "'PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Dennis Rech <dennisrech@home.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Seattle Int'l Motorcycle Show - another review
 .com>

>I just got back from spending a couple of hours at the Show with my family. 

I also just got back from the show. I felt that it was well worth the drive
and
money. 
After a couple of hours of looking and sitting on everything, My favorites
were

1: The Kenny Deere Norton Special at a mire $20,000. I still have a 69
Commando
that I bought new for my 21st birthday and have a real soft spot for
Nortons in
general. The remanufactured and updated Deere was just beautiful. I want one.
BAD!
2: The MV Agusta F4. Every single piece and part was just perfect. The whole
package was magnificent. If you are into the crotch rocket look, this thing is
stunning. Agusta.com has a mpg of the thing in action and the sound is
mechanically amazing. 
3: The new Honda Goldwing. If any bike is worth 18 grand, its this one. 

The BMW display was educational and entertaining. Its taken a while, but the
styling of the BMWs no longer sets me to gagging. They seem to be growing on
me. Maybe this is how a mother warthog feels about her children. BMW does seem
to be the one company that actually makes what their customers want instead of
what their marketing geeks preceive will sell. I can see myself touring on
one.


Speaking of marketing. I just had to mention to the Yamaha marketing folks
that
I thought that who ever said that Americans are not interested in the FJR1300
shaft drive sport touring bike was a picklehead. The marketing guy was really
nice and said that they are still researching and ask what I would expect to
pay. I replied about $12,000. He though that Yamaha would need $13,500. With
the Kawasaki shaft drive tourer at $8500, he thought that it would be a tough
sell. It may be. The 1000cc Yamaha Fazer was only $8500. At that price, it
sure
if tempting to pick one up just for the times that one feels totally
irresponsible.

One thing that I did not like on most of the new bikes were the seats. Current
style demands a banana shaped seat that locks the rider into one position
smashed up against the tank by the heavily contoured rear of the cushion. I
tried the Triumph Trophy 1200 and the 'nads on the tank' feature was pretty
near painful. Scratch the Trophy from my wish list. 

There sure are a lot of Harley models. They improve them a bit each year until
they now seem to be clones of the Jap cruisers that once tried to imitate
them.


There were a bizillion cruisers and boy racer bikes. I wonder how many of them
ever get more than 500 miles a year put on them? 

All and all, the show was a very nice experience. Its on my list for next
year.

Dennis
Big Black One






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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "isign69" <isign69@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:06:37 -0500

Welcome aboard Mark,

It's always nice to have another PC lover join.

Central Ohio has one of the highest PC/Listers ratio around.  What part of
Columbus do you reside? I live in Clintonville, near the E.N Broadway,
N.High ST intersection.

Mike Whited '94 PC 800

Columbus Ohio
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Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net


> HELLO, MY NAME IS MARK FELLURE I LIVE IN COLUMBUS, OHIO AND HAVE BEEN
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 08:20:02 -0500
Subject: Re(2): PC800: PC800 ride schedule in Southern California
To: bcrisologo@hotmail.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

bcrisologo@hotmail.com writes:
>I finally made the plunge today and bought a 95 model PC800 from Honda of 
>Hollywood.  If anyone wants to ride in the Los Angeles area next Saturday, 
>Dec. 9th let me know.  I will be up for it.  I live in the Silver Lake area, 
>near Los Feliz.
>
>Ben

Congratulations Ben! Welcome to the best group of riders on Earth (he says
humbly). I'd love to ride in the Los Angeles area next Saturday, but I'm afraid
the studded snow tires for my motorcycle are on backorder and the snow chains
don't clear the fender, so I can't get our of New York State:-)

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Family Oriented Motorcycling
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:01:53 -0600
Importance: Normal

One thing that I have noticed about the PC-800 Web site is that so many
members are family oriented. Looking back on things I think I made a big
mistake giving up riding while my kids were growing up. At the time I felt
that I couldn't justify the additional expense, but as soon as I got back
out again I realized that I not only robbed myself of the great pleasures of
riding, but I also have cheated my family out of a wonderful sport. If I had
it to do all over again I would certainly do it differently and I'm saddened
when I hear people selling their bikes because there is a new baby in the
house. When we get rid of our bikes we only find other areas to spend our
money "foolishly." Too those who may find themseleves thinking about getting
rid of their bikes because of a new baby, heed my words, Ride On! Ride
Often! and instead of making the bike "yours" make it "ours" by getting your
spouse involved.

I do a lot of work in Mexico where small cc motorcycles abound. I wish that
I would have had a camera the other day as I spotted a man on a enduro type
bike with a 3 or 4 year old sitting on the tank, a 4 or 5 year old boy
sitting directly behind him, and his wife sitting on the back, creating a
whole new meaning to the phrase "Family Riding." Although I don't recommend
this type of practice, the motorcycle in their case was definately "ours"

Now that I am older I have another chance with my grandchildren. Although
they are still babies, they will definitely be riding as children. (4 month
old Grandson already has a m/c jacket) My wife rides as a passenger,
however, she is enrolling in a Motorcycle Saftey Course at the local college
and I hope to have her on her own bike soon. (Maybe my PC!, anyone know of a
good used ST1100?) My youngest daughter (16)loves to ride behind and I have
encouraged her to learn to ride as well, right now she's focused on
obtaining her Driver's Licence. It is a great family endeavour and the
camaraderie of fellow bikers makes riding the great sport it is.

Best wishes to all family men and women that love to ride.

Todd Teulon
97 PC-800
South Texas "Zeniac"

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From: "Mayday" <mayday@frognet.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: New List Member
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:33:25 -0500



Hi. My name is Mike Thornton, and I have owned my PC for about 5 weeks =
now. I've been lurking on the list for a while, so I guess I should =
share my info with you guys (and gals). I have an '89 PC800, that had 2 =
previous owners, and 8800 miles when I bought it. Modifications include =
a Corbin saddle, air horns, a Clearview windshield spoiler, and an audio =
system for tunes on the road. The original owner also "blessed" it with =
some incredibly ugly pinstriping, which will be removed as soon as I get =
the guts to take the sandpaper to it. The whole bike will need fresh =
paint soon anyways, so I figure I have little to lose. I noticed there =
seems to be a lot of Central Ohio listers. I live near Athens (70 miles =
SE of Columbus), so if any of you want to get together for a ride or =
something, let me know. I ride year round, (though if we get too much =
snow, I will have trouble geting the bike through the yard and down to =
the road.)


                        Mayday Mike
                        Guysville,OH


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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 11:25:22 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: New List Member
To: mayday@frognet.net
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From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

mayday@frognet.net writes:
>Hi. My name is Mike Thornton, and I have owned my PC for about 5 weeks now.
>I've been lurking on the list for a while, so I guess I should share my info
>with you guys (and gals). I have an '89 PC800, that had 2 previous owners, and
>8800 miles when I bought it. Modifications include a Corbin saddle, air horns,
>a Clearview windshield spoiler, and an audio system for tunes on the road. The
>original owner also "blessed" it with some incredibly ugly pinstriping, which
>will be removed as soon as I get the guts to take the sandpaper to it. The
>whole bike will need fresh paint soon anyways, so I figure I have little to
>lose. I noticed there seems to be a lot of Central Ohio listers. I live near
>Athens (70 miles SE of Columbus), so if any of you want to get together for a
>ride or something, let me know. I ride year round, (though if we get too much
>snow, I will have trouble geting the bike through the yard and down to the
>road.)
>
>
>                        Mayday Mike
>                        Guysville,OH

Welcome to the list Mike and welcome to the Pacific Coast riding community in
general. What a wonderful Christmas present for yourself. I'm not from Ohio,
although I have ridden there and made friends with fellow Coasters there, I'd
like to encourage you to expand your scope of ride notification to surrounding
states also. One thing I have found out about Pacific Coast riders is they love
to ride and don't mind traveling a few hours to meet up with others who share
the same passion. I also encourage you to stay on the pc800 list even if you
think the messages are too numerous to handle. It's the primary way we all
communicate with one another about some great rides, both before and after, and
the friends you make here are an invaluable plus to staying on the list.

You might also want to check out the Honda Sport Touring Association (HSTA),
www.ride-hsta.com, as a source for some great folks to ride with in your area.
>From what I've seen Ohio has one of the highest number of members in this
group. The national meeting will be in State College, PA at the end of June.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
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HRCA #HM100878

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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:43:51 -0600
From: "Rick Corwine" <rickcorwn@qwest.net>
To: "Mayday" <mayday@frognet.net>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: New List Member

Mike,

Congrats on the new ride and welcome to the list. In your
post you mention a "Clearview windshield spoiler" I've never
heard of that, please describe or post a pic somewhere. You
also need to tell the story behind your nick name "Mayday".
My guess is you were a nautical radio person or a corner
worker with the SCCA or some other racing  group.

Ride swift, ride safe

Rick Corwine
Chanhassen, MN
1995 "Raven"

> Mayday wrote:
> 
> Hi. My name is Mike Thornton, and I have owned my PC for
> about 5 weeks now. I've been lurking on the list for a
> while, so I guess I should share my info with you guys
> (and gals). I have an '89 PC800, that had 2 previous
> owners, and 8800 miles when I bought it. Modifications
> include a Corbin saddle, air horns, a Clearview windshield
> spoiler, and an audio system for tunes on the road. The
> original owner also "blessed" it with some incredibly ugly
> pinstriping, which will be removed as soon as I get the
> guts to take the sandpaper to it. The whole bike will need
> fresh paint soon anyways, so I figure I have little to
> lose. I noticed there seems to be a lot of Central Ohio
> listers. I live near Athens (70 miles SE of Columbus), so
> if any of you want to get together for a ride or
> something, let me know. I ride year round, (though if we
> get too much snow, I will have trouble geting the bike
> through the yard and down to the road.)
> 
> 
>                         Mayday Mike
>                         Guysville,OH
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:11:30 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: "Peter J.B. Teague, N1ACT" <pjbt@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: New List Member
 <001b01c05d35$ffec4ce0$400103d8@mike>


Hey, Tim-
Now that's a ride I could talk my wife into!  Her aunt lives in State 
College and we haven't visited them for a few years.
A great excuse to get to the Nat. Mtg.!
+Peter+


At 11:25 AM 12/3/00 -0500, you wrote:
>mayday@frognet.net writes:
> >Hi. My name is Mike Thornton, and I have owned my PC for about 5 weeks now.
> >I've been lurking on the list for a while, so I guess I should share my info
> >with you guys (and gals). I have an '89 PC800, that had 2 previous 
> owners, and
> >8800 miles when I bought it. Modifications include a Corbin saddle, air 
> horns,
> >a Clearview windshield spoiler, and an audio system for tunes on the 
> road. The
> >original owner also "blessed" it with some incredibly ugly pinstriping, 
> which
> >will be removed as soon as I get the guts to take the sandpaper to it. The
> >whole bike will need fresh paint soon anyways, so I figure I have little to
> >lose. I noticed there seems to be a lot of Central Ohio listers. I live near
> >Athens (70 miles SE of Columbus), so if any of you want to get together 
> for a
> >ride or something, let me know. I ride year round, (though if we get too 
> much
> >snow, I will have trouble geting the bike through the yard and down to the
> >road.)
> >
> >
> >                        Mayday Mike
> >                        Guysville,OH
>
>Welcome to the list Mike and welcome to the Pacific Coast riding community in
>general. What a wonderful Christmas present for yourself. I'm not from Ohio,
>although I have ridden there and made friends with fellow Coasters there, I'd
>like to encourage you to expand your scope of ride notification to surrounding
>states also. One thing I have found out about Pacific Coast riders is they 
>love
>to ride and don't mind traveling a few hours to meet up with others who share
>the same passion. I also encourage you to stay on the pc800 list even if you
>think the messages are too numerous to handle. It's the primary way we all
>communicate with one another about some great rides, both before and 
>after, and
>the friends you make here are an invaluable plus to staying on the list.
>
>You might also want to check out the Honda Sport Touring Association (HSTA),
>www.ride-hsta.com, as a source for some great folks to ride with in your area.
> From what I've seen Ohio has one of the highest number of members in this
>group. The national meeting will be in State College, PA at the end of June.
>
>Tim Davies
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"
>
>AMA #688662
>HSTA #8387
>HRCA #HM100878
>
>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
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Peter J.B. Teague
N1ACT
Marblehead, MA
'96 PC800 "Old Ironsides"  (PCRC #1239)
Home page:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/pjbt/HomePage

I'd<br>
like to encourage you to expand your scope of ride notification to
surrounding<br>
states also. One thing I have found out about Pacific Coast riders is
they love<br>
to ride and don't mind traveling a few hours to meet up with others who
share<br>
the same passion. I also encourage you to stay on the pc800 list even if
you<br>
think the messages are too numerous to handle. It's the primary way we
all<br>
communicate with one another about some great rides, both before and
after, and<br>
the friends you make here are an invaluable plus to staying on the
list.<br>
<br>
You might also want to check out the Honda Sport Touring Association
(HSTA),<br>
<a href="http://www.ride-hsta.com/" eudora="autourl">www.ride-hsta.com</a>,
as a source for some great folks to ride with in your area.<br>
 From what I've seen Ohio has one of the highest number of members in
this<br>
group. The national meeting will be in <b>State College, PA at the end of
June</b>.<br>
<br>
Tim Davies<br>
Seneca Falls, New York 13148<br>
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-&quot;Yankee Smuggler&quot;<br>
<br>
AMA #688662<br>
HSTA #8387<br>
HRCA #HM100878<br>
<br>
&quot;The ride is the objective, the destination is the
excuse!&quot;<br>
<br>
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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:52:30 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: New List Member
To: mayday@frognet.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Welcome "Mayday Mike",
I too would like to hear how you got that handle. This is quite a neat group 
so hang in there with us.

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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From: "Roger Bowen" <rbowen@budget.net>
To: "Tim Macy" <timbmacy@hotmail.com>
Cc: "pc800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wounded Wed Wabbit
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:57:40 -0800

Hi Tim,

Some while back you mentioned the following:
>
> Do a web search of bike salvage yards too. There's a pretty good one on
the
> south end of Salem--that's where I got the rear end for the Stealth. I'll
> see if I can find their stuff.
>
I'm finally getting around to trying to put 'Wed Wabbit' back on the road.
I did a web search (Yahoo Yellow Pages) on 'Motorcycle Salvage' in Salem and
it only came back with 3 hits in Portland.  Would you happen to have a
telephone number for the place in Salem you mentioned?
In particular, I'm looking for a decent crome muffler cover.

TIA,

Roger Bowen
Grants Pass, OR
98 PC800 (being repaired)
93 MG Daytona 1000


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From: "George and Gloria Hilsinger" <ghilsing@wolfenet.com>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: British Columbia Motorcycling
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:40:30 -0800
Importance: Normal

Anyone interested in motorcycling in British Columbia should check out this
website.

http://www.destinationhighways.com/

George Hilsinger
Yakima, WA

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From: Thfwsf@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:58:07 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:58:07 EST
Subject: PC800: Check out A Motorcycle Glossary for the Uninitiated
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



Thought I'd share this.  Some interesting definitions.  Even has a definition 
for a squid! 

<A HREF="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~airyn/bike/glossary.html">Click here: A Motorcycle Glossary for the Uninitiated</A>

If your email doesn't take HTML tags this is the website:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~airyn/bike/glossary.html

Tom Fraser
Manassas, VA
'89 PC800 "Singer"
iPCRC #1001

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From: UA94TC@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:02:44 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:02:43 EST
Subject: PC800: New Member 
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

                  I am looking into a Pc for my wife , shes taking her MSF 
this winter while were in Fla , I dont know much about the Pc since I'm a 
Beemer rider personally .
                   It seems like the Pc's are in short supply at least here 
in the southeast .
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "Roger Bowen" <rbowen@budget.net>, "Tim Macy" <timbmacy@hotmail.com>
Cc: "pc800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wounded Wed Wabbit
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 13:10:27 -0800

Mike's Cycle Salvage.  Used to advertise in the classifieds in the backs of
the bike mags;  may still.

I purchased my first luggage rack from him, for my Honda 750/4 many many
moons ago.   Back when Revill was making cross country and cross cultural
memories.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"
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From: "Roger Bowen" <rbowen@budget.net>
To: "Tim Macy" <timbmacy@hotmail.com>
Cc: "pc800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: PC800: Wounded Wed Wabbit


> Hi Tim,
>
> Some while back you mentioned the following:
> >
> > Do a web search of bike salvage yards too. There's a pretty good one on
> the
> > south end of Salem--that's where I got the rear end for the Stealth.
I'll
> > see if I can find their stuff.
> >
> I'm finally getting around to trying to put 'Wed Wabbit' back on the road.
> I did a web search (Yahoo Yellow Pages) on 'Motorcycle Salvage' in Salem
and
> it only came back with 3 hits in Portland.  Would you happen to have a
> telephone number for the place in Salem you mentioned?
> In particular, I'm looking for a decent crome muffler cover.
>
> TIA,
>
> Roger Bowen
> Grants Pass, OR
> 98 PC800 (being repaired)
> 93 MG Daytona 1000
>
>
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From: "Roger Bowen" <rbowen@budget.net>
To: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
Cc: "pc800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wounded Wed Wabbit
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:29:34 -0800

Thanks Lee.  I'll go dig out some old mags and try to locate him.

Roger Bowen

> Mike's Cycle Salvage.  Used to advertise in the classifieds in the backs
of
> the bike mags;  may still.
>
> I purchased my first luggage rack from him, for my Honda 750/4 many many
> moons ago.   Back when Revill was making cross country and cross cultural
> memories.
>
> Lee Barker
> 95 "Secondo con Brio"


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From: "Wakefield, Steve L." <slwakefield@verizon.com>
To: "'Roger Bowen'" <rbowen@budget.net>, Great Ned <greatned@quik.com>
Cc: pc800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Wounded Wed Wabbit
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:31:03 -0600 

For a national listing of cycle salvage yards, check 

http://www.necycle.com/acers/

It lists the following:

MIKE'S CYCLE PARTS
3511 Boone Road S.E.
Salem,OR 97301
503 399-7690
1-800-327-7304 Fax: 503 362-2828

SWake

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From: Roger Bowen [mailto:rbowen@budget.net]

Thanks Lee.  I'll go dig out some old mags and try to locate him.

Roger Bowen

> Mike's Cycle Salvage.  Used to advertise in the classifieds in the backs
> of the bike mags;  may still.
>
> I purchased my first luggage rack from him, for my Honda 750/4 many many
> moons ago.   Back when Revill was making cross country and cross cultural
> memories.
>
> Lee Barker
> 95 "Secondo con Brio"
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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mlinkous@inetone.net>
To: "Pacific Coast" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: brake pads (from mawonline.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:39:25 -0500

I was going to order front brake pads for a winter project....

I was planning on ordering from http://www.mawonline.com   I figured they
would have about the best price.  Can someone recommend a brand.  They carry
EBC, SBS, and Ferodo.  Would I be better going with Hondaline or is one of
these brands better?

((If someone has recently ordered from www.mawonline.com I would appreciate
verifying the part number.))

EBC    #31644    $30.95
SBS    #33134    $31.95
Ferodo    #01094    $26.95

Thanks in advance for your help......

I have about 18K miles but thought I would change the brake padds when I
replace the front tire....  I think they are OK, but my "sportbike
hot-rodder" friend tells me he's never got more than 12-15K on a set of
pads....  I tell him it takes less pads to stop a 70mph bike v. a 170mph
bike :-)


~~~   ~~~   ~~~
Michael D. Linkous
www.inetone.net/mlinkous

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From: BernieK469@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:59:42 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:59:42 EST
Subject: PC800: Widder Vest
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I recently purchased a Widder Electric Vest.  What a pleasant surprise.  It 
took me snugly down into the thirties when used under my Spartan Jacket and 
in complement with Bellstaff Pants.  I am now considering adding the clip on  
Widder Electric Sleeves to crack the 20 degree barrier.    The vest draws 
about 35 watts and the sleeves would add another 20 watts.  Would I be 
overloading the PC's system?

I and a couple of buddies are thinking about going to the Dallas Motorcycle 
show.  If the weather holds we will ride down from Kansas City.  Any other 
Coasters going to be there?

Bernie
94 PC
73K
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 Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:11:41 -0600

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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: <BernieK469@aol.com>
Subject: RE: PC800: Widder Vest
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:11:30 -0600
Importance: Normal

Bernie, Could you pass on the information on the Dallas Motorcycle show, I
may want to give it a go.

Todd Teulon
97 PC-800
South Texas "Zeniac"


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Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:00 PM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Widder Vest


I recently purchased a Widder Electric Vest.  What a pleasant surprise.  It
took me snugly down into the thirties when used under my Spartan Jacket and
in complement with Bellstaff Pants.  I am now considering adding the clip on
Widder Electric Sleeves to crack the 20 degree barrier.    The vest draws
about 35 watts and the sleeves would add another 20 watts.  Would I be
overloading the PC's system?

I and a couple of buddies are thinking about going to the Dallas Motorcycle
show.  If the weather holds we will ride down from Kansas City.  Any other
Coasters going to be there?

Bernie
94 PC
73K
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From: RVPC800@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:14:18 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Widder Vest
To: BernieK469@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu



In a message dated 12/3/00 6:00:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
BernieK469@aol.com writes:


> .  I am now considering adding the clip on  
> Widder Electric Sleeves to crack the 20 degree barrier.    The vest draws 
> about 35 watts and the sleeves would add another 20 watts.  Would I be 
> overloading the PC's system?
> 
> 

Hi Bernie

I dont think so. When using my Widder vest AND Widder gloves AND running my 
90/130 watt headlight on high beam I had no troubles with my PC. I think that 
I might have been right on the verge of using up all that the alternator was 
putting out, but the bike always fired right up after using the above combo, 
I think that it must have been OK.

Russ Vernon
95 PC800

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From: "jdcpc" <jdcpc@email.msn.com>
To: "PC 800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Tank Bag??
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:12:43 -0800

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From: "Wolfgang Kaufmann" <w.kaufmann@aon.at>

> Capital Cycle Corporation, 21580 Beaumeade Circle, No. 170
> Ashburn, VA 22011
> Fax: 703-729-7908
> Tel: 800-642-5100

Hi all,

I called this 800 number.  Capital Cycle does not carry Bagster anymore --
clerk said for about 6 years or so now.  No new information from him
regarding who might in the States.

Joyce
Sonoma County, Ca
'96 Red Rolls



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	 Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:18:46 -0800

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From: "jdcpc" <jdcpc@email.msn.com>
To: "Pacific Coast Y2K List" <pacificcoast@egroups.com>,
        "PC 800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Red Rolls Renching Rave
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:15:22 -0800



Hi all Bay Area PC'ers!

A long-awaited event (since Sept 14 Y2K Big Sur rock-ers ball)!

All parts accounted for, PAINTED (what color?) and ready for =
installation.

Join Roy & Julia & Joyce (and maybe a neighbor or two) for a wrenching =
party in Rohnert Park, Ca on December 9 and 10.  All PC'ers interested =
are invited!  You can watch/help/get in the way/make snacks/keep the =
coffe made (your call :)

WHATEVERRRR -- I have plenty of chairs :) too.

9th will be mostly mechanical -- wiring/adjusting/replacing and 10th =
will be cosmetic stuff. =20

Party on the 9th begins around noon-ish -- goes until the wee hours of =
the ????

Party on the 10th begins at sunrise (right, Roy?) and goes until ???

She's gonna be BEAUTIFUL!!! =20

Joyce
Sonoma County, Ca
'96 Red Rolls





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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:07:48 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:07:47 EST
Subject: PC800: Dallas motorcycle show
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

http://www.motorcycleshows.com/dl.cfm
Is this the one? Cycle World sponsored by Toyota?  Dec 15,16,17  I will 
consider riding if the weather is decent, otherwise driving. Probably can be 
there for Saturday the 15th if SWMBO approves. 

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 22:55:56 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: brake pads (from mawonline.com)
To: mlinkous@inetone.net
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

mlinkous@inetone.net writes:
>I have about 18K miles but thought I would change the brake padds when I
>replace the front tire....  I think they are OK, but my "sportbike
>hot-rodder" friend tells me he's never got more than 12-15K on a set of
>pads....  I tell him it takes less pads to stop a 70mph bike v. a 170mph
>bike :-)
>
>
>~~~   ~~~   ~~~
>Michael D. Linkous

I have 42,000 miles on my brake pads and my Honda mechanic said I would
probably need to "think about" replacing them next season. I have not looked at
them myself, but I trust his judgement.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:01:39 -0500
Subject: Re(2): PC800: Tank Bag??
To: jdcpc@email.msn.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)
 <fc.006ad29c00233ea83b9aca0006e97a67.233eb2@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
 <3A244DAD.BE509001@aon.at>
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jdcpc@email.msn.com writes:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wolfgang Kaufmann" <w.kaufmann@aon.at>
>
>> Capital Cycle Corporation, 21580 Beaumeade Circle, No. 170
>> Ashburn, VA 22011
>> Fax: 703-729-7908
>> Tel: 800-642-5100
>
>Hi all,
>
>I called this 800 number.  Capital Cycle does not carry Bagster anymore --
>clerk said for about 6 years or so now.  No new information from him
>regarding who might in the States.
>
>Joyce
>Sonoma County, Ca
>'96 Red Rolls
>

Here is the info from the Bagster web site about the US distributer. This is
the same company that had the booth at the NYC motorcycle show where I first
saw them:
>
Distributor-
ITALJET USA
401 West Street
NEW YORK NY, 10014
USA

Phone
212 242 1600
Fax
212 242 1466
E-mail: joelsacher@email.msn.com
Web site: www.italjetusa.co

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:05:16 -0500
To: "Michael D. Linkous" <mlinkous@inetone.net>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: brake pads (from mawonline.com)
Cc: "Pacific Coast" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

At 8:39 PM -0500 12/3/00, Michael D. Linkous wrote:

><snip>
>I have about 18K miles but thought I would change the brake padds when I
>replace the front tire....  I think they are OK, but my "sportbike
>hot-rodder" friend tells me he's never got more than 12-15K on a set of
>pads....  I tell him it takes less pads to stop a 70mph bike v. a 170mph
>bike :-)


Hello Michael.

I have 25,000 miles on my PC800, and I use the front brake a lot.   I 
ride a little bit on the aggressive side, and as a result, I figured 
I would change my front pads when I had the front fork springs 
changed.  I had already bought a set of EBC pads, and brought them 
with me to the dealer where I had the springs replaced.  When I had a 
look at the front pads, I discovered that they weren't much thinner 
than the replacement EBC pads I had bought, so I didn't touch them. 
I would have needed to use a micrometer to discern any difference in 
thickness between my used pads and my new ones.

Unless your caliper is partly seized, I would suspect that at 18,000 
miles your pads are far from worn out.

Take care, and ride safe.

fsl
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:08:16 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: isign69 <isign69@netzero.net>
Subject: PC800: My wereabouts

TO Mr. Mike Whited	
I live very near the little town of Brice, over by Independence High 
School. i have enjoyed reading of your various trips, and would have joined 
you on one if at all possible. definetly next spring/summer. I went out 
today for a short 45 min ride and now i'm really dreading winter.I usually 
ride to work when it's 40 degrees out and was able to put many miles on 
last winter but i suspect that won't happen this winter.I work on the 
"Hilltop" at the Highway Patrol as a "Bean counter".... what about 
you?   PC'S RULE (OOOPS... I'M SHOUTING AGAIN)
PEACE

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From: BernieK469@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 00:19:30 -0500 (EST)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 00:19:29 EST
Subject: PC800: Dallas Motorcycle Show
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

It' the weekend of the 15th


Bernie
94 PC
73K
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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
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Subject: Re: PC800: My wereabouts
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 06:32:53 -0500


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Subject: PC800: My wereabouts


>I have enjoyed reading of your various trips, and would have joined
> you on one if at all possible.

We will be getting more rides up next year maybe something wierd like an
out-of-state ride for lunch in a monsoon? (what do you think Bob
Fitzgerald?)
I look forward to meeting.

> today for a short 45 min ride and now i'm really dreading winter.I usually
> ride to work when it's 40 degrees out and was able to put many miles on
> last winter but i suspect that won't happen this winter.

I think we're in for a hard winter this year too.

>I work on the  "Hilltop" at the Highway Patrol as a "Bean counter".... what
about
> you?

I'm in the R&D area at Kellogg's Worthington Foods.

Mike Whited '94 PC 800

Columbus Ohio
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From: "ROBERT FITZGERALD" <rfitzger@neo.rr.com>
To: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        "isign69" <isign69@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: My wereabouts
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:26:36 -0500

What a little rain on a good ride as long as your enjoy it!
Bob & Judy Fitzgerald
Delaware, Oh
95 PC Blackie 15,000 miles
97 PC Little Red 25,00 miles

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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: PC800: My wereabouts


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "isign69" <isign69@netzero.net>
> To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 11:08 PM
> Subject: PC800: My wereabouts
>
>
> >I have enjoyed reading of your various trips, and would have joined
> > you on one if at all possible.
>
> We will be getting more rides up next year maybe something wierd like an
> out-of-state ride for lunch in a monsoon? (what do you think Bob
> Fitzgerald?)
> I look forward to meeting.
>
> > today for a short 45 min ride and now i'm really dreading winter.I
usually
> > ride to work when it's 40 degrees out and was able to put many miles on
> > last winter but i suspect that won't happen this winter.
>
> I think we're in for a hard winter this year too.
>
> >I work on the  "Hilltop" at the Highway Patrol as a "Bean counter"....
what
> about
> > you?
>
> I'm in the R&D area at Kellogg's Worthington Foods.
>
> Mike Whited '94 PC 800
>
> Columbus Ohio
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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:48:51 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven)
Subject: Re(2): PC800: Tank Bag??

This is also BMW of NY. I stopped in there a few weeks ago. Nice selection
of clothing, especially for ladies; minimal BMW stock. They were very
knowledgable and friendly. My wife and I have booked an Edleweiss tour on
an R1100RT and they let her try on all sorts of clothing and then let hre
sit on a new RT for a "real fit". He also has a BMW showroom in Huntington,
Long Island. Some of the scooters he imports are pretty funky.

Dave


>Here is the info from the Bagster web site about the US distributer. This is
>the same company that had the booth at the NYC motorcycle show where I first
>saw them:
>>
>Distributor-
>ITALJET USA
>401 West Street
>NEW YORK NY, 10014
>USA


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= <alvik@chello.no>
To: "PC 800 LIST" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: non PC related: Weights and Measures (You Didn't know About) 
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:18:09 +0100




               WEIGHTS & MEASURES

Ratio of an igloo's circumference to its diameter: Eskimo Pi

Time between slipping on a peel and smacking the pavement: 1 =
bananosecond

Weight an evangelist carries with God: 1 billigram

Time it takes to sail 220 yards at 1 nautical mile per hour: =
Knot-furlong

365.25 days of drinking low-calorie beer because it's less filling: 1 =
lite
year

16.5 feet in the Twilight Zone: 1 Rod Serling

Half of a large intestine: 1 semicolon

1000 aches: 1 megahurtz

Basic unit of laryngitis: 1 hoarsepower

Shortest distance between two jokes: A straight line

453.6 graham crackers: 1 pound cake

1 million-million microphones: 1 megaphone

1 million bicycles: 2 megacycles

365.25 days: 1 unicycle

2000 mockingbirds: two kilomockingbirds

10 cards: 1 decacards

1 kilogram of falling figs: 1 Fig Newton

1000 grams of wet socks: 1 literhosen

1 millionth of a fish: 1 microfiche

1 trillion pins: 1 terrapin

10 rations: 1 decoration

100 rations: 1 C-ration

2 monograms: 1 diagram

8 nickels: 2 paradigms

2.4 statute miles of intravenous surgical tubing at Yale University
Hospital: 1 I.V. League

2000 pounds of Chinese soup: Won ton

1 millionth of a mouthwash: 1 microscope



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From: "rrobinson" <rrobinson@ee.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "isign69" <isign69@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:28:07 -0500

Hello Mark and greetings to a fellow Central Ohioan and Welcome to the list.

When the weather improves I hope to see you on the roads.

Richard Robinson
My 1996 PC800 is "Pure Pleasure"

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To: Arvid Løvik <alvik@chello.no>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List)
Subject: Re: PC800: non PC related: Weights and Measures (You Didn't know About) 
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:40:13 +0000

Those are great, Arvid!

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> 
>                WEIGHTS & MEASURES
> 
> Ratio of an igloo's circumference to its diameter: Eskimo Pi
> 
> Time between slipping on a peel and smacking the pavement: 1 bananosecond
> 
> Weight an evangelist carries with God: 1 billigram
> 
> Time it takes to sail 220 yards at 1 nautical mile per hour: Knot-furlong
> 
> 365.25 days of drinking low-calorie beer because it's less filling: 1 lite
> year
> 
> 16.5 feet in the Twilight Zone: 1 Rod Serling
> 
> Half of a large intestine: 1 semicolon
> 
> 1000 aches: 1 megahurtz
> 
> Basic unit of laryngitis: 1 hoarsepower
> 
> Shortest distance between two jokes: A straight line
> 
> 453.6 graham crackers: 1 pound cake
> 
> 1 million-million microphones: 1 megaphone
> 
> 1 million bicycles: 2 megacycles
> 
> 365.25 days: 1 unicycle
> 
> 2000 mockingbirds: two kilomockingbirds
> 
> 10 cards: 1 decacards
> 
> 1 kilogram of falling figs: 1 Fig Newton
> 
> 1000 grams of wet socks: 1 literhosen
> 
> 1 millionth of a fish: 1 microfiche
> 
> 1 trillion pins: 1 terrapin
> 
> 10 rations: 1 decoration
> 
> 100 rations: 1 C-ration
> 
> 2 monograms: 1 diagram
> 
> 8 nickels: 2 paradigms
> 
> 2.4 statute miles of intravenous surgical tubing at Yale University
> Hospital: 1 I.V. League
> 
> 2000 pounds of Chinese soup: Won ton
> 
> 1 millionth of a mouthwash: 1 microscope
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:12:19 -0800
Subject: PC800: Way cool bike video camera mount
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml)

I was checking out a web site for a video camera I have when I ran across
this set of instructions to mount a video camera on the front fork/wheel
area of a motorcycle.

http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/motomount/index.html

By the way, the TRV 900 is a great video camera.

Steve
'96 "Winnacyclo"

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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:00:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Givi LED and lids
To: PC800 LIST <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Here's some follow up for folks who want the LED
and/or get a new painted lid for a Maxima (50 liter)
box.

If you know anyone who still sells an LED, please drop
me a line...

tanks,

see em see


--- Givi <giviusa@mindspring.com> wrote:
> From: "Givi" <giviusa@mindspring.com>
> To: "Christoffer Carstanjen"
> <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Givi
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:35:36 -0500
> 
> Hi,
>      The lid is Z50TR300 $111.54. We apologize but
> we no longer offer the LED light, the E67 nylon rack
> is $25.68, the E81 aluminum rack is $56.18,.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Craig
> ************************************
> Please visit our  website http://www.giviusa.com 
> Our site now offers secure online ordering.


=====
Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar

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Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 22:15:01 -0000
From: "Rocky " <rocheux@juno.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Paint stick

Who ever wrote me about the 1996 red paint stick I lost his email.
Kindly Tim wrote they are $9.95 plus tax and freight. I will send it 
out in an envelope for  a $5 bill so whoever it was who wrote me 
about it just write me not by clicking reply but*
to stanrocklin@yahoo.com or send the $5 to
Stan Rocklin 4305 Pickett Road Fairfax VA 22032-1246
Rocky



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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:42:48 -0600

A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and we thought that it might make a nice
winter break. I'm thinking of taking Amtrak up and finding a hotel nearby.
The plan is to take the train up Friday, stay Saturday, drink heavily
Saturday night and sleep on the train on the way home Sunday. I figure this
counts a MC vacation because I don't plan on operating a car for the whole
weekend, if I can avoid it.

There is a group mentioned on the show web site that will book air and hotel
but no mention of travel by train. I've flown before but never taken the
train anywhere (unless you count the zoo train) and it just seems like a
great adventure.

Anyone familiar with the Chicago area who can give me advice on where the
train station is relative to the Stephens Convention Center and where might
I find a decent, reasonable hotel close to the Convention Center?

Anyone else interested in meeting up at the show, maybe dinner and cocktails
afterward?


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:32:47 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show

At 8:42 PM -0600 12/4/00, markie800 wrote:

>A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
>Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and ...


I will be at the Chicago show helping Rob Pemble of Sport Touring 
Accessories at Deal's Gap Motorcycle Resort by manning the booth at 
the show.   I'll be there all 3 days.

I hope to meet some list members there, both new and old faces.  Drop 
by and see me and you can finally put a face to the name, and join 
the club of other disillusioned, disappointed, surprised people who 
have met me!

Ride safe

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From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" <Emile.Nossin@klm.nl>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Fwd: 2002 plans Honda
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:47:08 +0100 

AP- Buffalo, NY
MOTORCYCLIST AWARDED ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN CLAIM AGAINST AMERICAN HONDA

A Buffalo jury awarded one million dollars in compensatory and punitive
damages to Willard Johnson is a suit he brought against American Honda
over an injury he sustained while attempting to park his 1996 Honda
Goldwing on it's centerstand. Mr. Johnson ruptured a disk in his lower
back while attempting use the centerstand. Lawyers for Mr. Johnson
produced internal Honda memos from the engineering department that
stated that "unless proper training was received there could be a
significant chance of back injury." 

Lawyers for American Honda would not comment on the decision other than
to state that American Honda would appeal the case.  In related news
Honda has announced that beginning with the 2002 model year motorcycles
centerstands would be eliminated.


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From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:43:37 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:43:37 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



Mark,
     I was planning on going to the show with about four or five from the 
starved rock ride! Frank, Bill, John, Jim, and ???. I think we could meet up 
and have a great weeknend! I'm sure you will get a response from your ???. I 
will keep in touch and organize the details. L8ter...

Todd Skar
89'PC 20k
"Poseidon"
Green Bay, WI
 PCRC#720
NEWPCRC
 (president)


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 03:08:46 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



 I will see ya thereFrancois! I would have to say we will have a big group 
attending the show! L8ter... 

Todd Skar
89'PC 20k
"Poseidon"
Green Bay, WI
 PCRC#720
NEWPCRC
 (president)


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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500
Subject: Re(2): PC800: Chicago MC Show
To: fsl@borgconsulting.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

fsl@borgconsulting.com writes:
>At 8:42 PM -0600 12/4/00, markie800 wrote:
>
>>A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
>>Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and ...
>
>
>I will be at the Chicago show helping Rob Pemble of Sport Touring 
>Accessories at Deal's Gap Motorcycle Resort by manning the booth at 
>the show.   I'll be there all 3 days.
>
>I hope to meet some list members there, both new and old faces.  Drop 
>by and see me and you can finally put a face to the name, and join 
>the club of other disillusioned, disappointed, surprised people who 
>have met me!
>
>Ride safe
>
>fsl
>-- 
>Francois Saint Laurent
>Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
>1995 PC800
>Waltzing Matilda

Do we get to choose which face we attach to your name? If so it might be worth
the trip:-)

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
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From: "Rich Fenwick" <fenwick@nn.com>
To: "'markie800'" <markie800@netzero.net>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show INFO!
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:13:40 -0600
Importance: Normal

I've done some initial digging on some of Mark's questions.  Hotel info
below...

:::::TRAIN INFO:::::

The nearest Amtrak station to the Rosemont Convention Center is 6.8 miles
away in Glenview, IL.  I'm sure one could hop a cab for the final 6.8 miles.
See www.amtrak.com for more info.  By the looks of the schedules on-line,
you will have to ride the train to "Chicago", then catch a train from
"Chicago" out to "Glenview".

*********************
Total Fare: $34.00
St. Louis (MO) to Glenview (IL) on Friday (2/9/01)

300 St. Louis, MO Chicago, IL 2/9/01
Leave 4:40AM 2/9/01
Arrive 10:00AM
Discount Coach Seat

333 Chicago, IL Glenview, IL 2/9/01
Leave 10:30AM 2/9/01
Arrive 10:52AM
Unreserved Coach Seat -- Seat not guaranteed
**********************

::::: HOTEL INFO :::::

There is a hotel right across the street from the Convention Center, it is
called the Rosemont Suites.  Remember, the Convention Center is only a short
way (1.5 miles) from O'Hare, so nearby Hotels shouldn't be a problem.
*Reasonable* is most likely going to be the problem.

According to www.travelweb.com, the Rosemont Suites is $99.00 a night
(double occupancy).  That sounds steep, but this is a *NICE* place, and it
is right across the street from the Convention Center.  It is a 3 star
hotel.
Rosemont Suites Hotel
5500 N. River Road
Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018

There is a Holiday in that is roughly a block away, which is still easily
walkable that is going for $89 a night.  It is called the
Holiday Inn CHICAGO-O'HARE
5440 N. River Rd.
Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018

These are the two properties that I distinctly remember seeing when I was at
the Motorcycle show last year.  There may be others, but I do remember these
as being a realistic "stone's throw" from the Convention Center.

There is a Doubletree Hotel listed that should be about a block away , and
it is showing rates of $99 a night double occupancy, or $89 a night if you
are a AAA member.  I don't recall seeing this property though.
Doubletree Hotels O'Hare-Rosemont
5460 N. River Road
Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018

These quoted rates were from www.travelweb.com.  You may be able to get
better rates quoted elsewhere... I don't know.  My experience though, is
that travelweb is difficult to beat.

BTW, Mark, I'm interested in joining up for this "trip"...  I'm placing my
reservations at the Rosemont Suites, with it being across the street from
the Convention Center and not costing any more than others...

Questions?  Let me know.  I'll do my best to answer them...

Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800
Illinois




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markie800
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:43 PM
To: PC800 List
Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show


A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and we thought that it might make a nice
winter break. I'm thinking of taking Amtrak up and finding a hotel nearby.
The plan is to take the train up Friday, stay Saturday, drink heavily
Saturday night and sleep on the train on the way home Sunday. I figure this
counts a MC vacation because I don't plan on operating a car for the whole
weekend, if I can avoid it.

There is a group mentioned on the show web site that will book air and hotel
but no mention of travel by train. I've flown before but never taken the
train anywhere (unless you count the zoo train) and it just seems like a
great adventure.

Anyone familiar with the Chicago area who can give me advice on where the
train station is relative to the Stephens Convention Center and where might
I find a decent, reasonable hotel close to the Convention Center?

Anyone else interested in meeting up at the show, maybe dinner and cocktails
afterward?


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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Chicago MC Show
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:54:29 -0800 

It occured to me that I saw this same show (the cycle World M/C show) in San
Mateo (i.e. San Francisco) just last month. Having never been to one, I was
impressed with the amount of stuff being shown/peddled/displayed. I threw my
leg over lots of cruisers (good Lord lots of cruisers), and even the
Concours, ST1100 *and* the new Gold Wing 2001 (which was a joke to get
onto... How does *anyone* properly mount that??). The wife went along and
did the same, concluding that if she were to ride, she'd want a Yamahog
V-Star 650...

I'd have to say that I always saw myself riding a cruiser, looking bad (i.e.
naughty) and such, but I really enjoy the questioning, surprised looks I get
from folks while on the PC! (oh what a SEXY looking scooter -ahem-
motorcycle...)

Oh, and FINALLY...

I spotted a PC yesterday (12/4) riding south on San Tomas Expressway in
Santa Clara at approximately 4:45pm PST. Magna Red & Black, it looked almost
exactly like mine (which implies it was a late model PC), except that it
looked like it had a Rifle or Clearview windshield (didn't get a good look
but knew it wasn't the Hondaline shield; I was driving the F-150 yesterday
<sigh>). When I saw it pull away at the traffic signal at Scott Blvd., I
admired the look of the bike as it sped off. Not to say that I was checking
out any guy's back end or anything :)

At that moment, I so wanted to be on my PC that I almost went straight home
and took a nighttime ride. California kicks butt for all-year riding...

Anyhow, if you recognize the description and think I'm describing you, I'd
like to say "Nice Bike!"

Cheers,

Randy
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From: "Ben Crisologo" <bcrisologo@hotmail.com>
To: raml@bus.usc.edu, JeffHamltn@aol.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: PC800 ride schedule in Southern California
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:22:48 

Hey Steve,

That's a great idea.  Let's ride together to the show.  Do you want to meet 
at McDonalds in Glendale (500 N. Central Ave. (818)956-9327) at 9 AM on 
Saturday, December 9?

Jeff, you are more than welcome to join us.


Ben



>From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml)
>To: bcrisologo@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re(2): PC800: PC800 ride schedule in Southern California
>Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:25:25 -0800
>
>Hey Ben!
>
>I live in the Pasadena area and plan on riding down to Long Beach to Check
>out the Motorcycle Show on Sat.
>
>Interested?
>
>Steve
>'96 "Winnacyclo"
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From: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: "'2001APCO'" <pacificcoast@egroups.com>, "'PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: "Take the PC"
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:28:53 -0800 

Mike Gunderson made me do it!  

This is adapted from the Eagles' song "Take it Easy", 
and its dedicated to Ann and her Great Pacific Northwest Passage.

:-)

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TAKE THE PC

Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
I got vinyl under my behind
Beemers wanna match me, Harley's wanna catch me,
The PC is a friend of mine

Take the PC
Take the PC
Don't let the sound of your own wheels
Drive you crazy

Ride the roads while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just get it off the center stand
And take the PC

Well, I'm a standin' on a corner in Scottsdale, Arizona
Such a fine sight to see
It's a girl, my Lord, with a heavy load
In the trunk of a ghostly PC

Come on, baby
Don't say maybe
You gotta know the Pacific Coast
Is gonna take me

We'll never lose our favored one
Because we're having so much fun
So fire up I'm climbin' on
To take the PC

Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
Got a world of places in my mind
Lookin' for some curves, for calming down my nerves
They're not hard to find

Take the PC
Take the PC
Don't let the sound of your own wheels
Make you crazy

Come on, baby
Don't say maybe
You gotta know the Pacific Coast
Is gonna take me

Oh, we got a PC
We gotta take the PC




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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:35:43 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" <pkaputsos@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: "Take the PC"
To: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>,
        "'2001APCO'" <pacificcoast@egroups.com>, "'PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

...just gotta love it!!...

--- "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
wrote:
> Mike Gunderson made me do it!  
> 
> This is adapted from the Eagles' song "Take it
> Easy", 
> and its dedicated to Ann and her Great Pacific
> Northwest Passage.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Bruce Pickett
> Federal Way, WA
> '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> TAKE THE PC
> 
> Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my
> cruising mode
> I got vinyl under my behind
> Beemers wanna match me, Harley's wanna catch me,
> The PC is a friend of mine
> 
> Take the PC
> Take the PC
> Don't let the sound of your own wheels
> Drive you crazy
> 
> Ride the roads while you still can
> Don't even try to understand
> Just get it off the center stand
> And take the PC
> 
> Well, I'm a standin' on a corner in Scottsdale,
> Arizona
> Such a fine sight to see
> It's a girl, my Lord, with a heavy load
> In the trunk of a ghostly PC
> 
> Come on, baby
> Don't say maybe
> You gotta know the Pacific Coast
> Is gonna take me
> 
> We'll never lose our favored one
> Because we're having so much fun
> So fire up I'm climbin' on
> To take the PC
> 
> Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my
> cruising mode
> Got a world of places in my mind
> Lookin' for some curves, for calming down my nerves
> They're not hard to find
> 
> Take the PC
> Take the PC
> Don't let the sound of your own wheels
> Make you crazy
> 
> Come on, baby
> Don't say maybe
> You gotta know the Pacific Coast
> Is gonna take me
> 
> Oh, we got a PC
> We gotta take the PC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From: Thfwsf@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:31:45 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:31:42 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: "Take the PC"
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

You really need to get out a little more!  Or this is a case of cabin fever 
setting in?

Tom Fraser

In a message dated Tue, 5 Dec 2000  2:31:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
"Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com> writes:

<< Mike Gunderson made me do it!  

This is adapted from the Eagles' song "Take it Easy", 
and its dedicated to Ann and her Great Pacific Northwest Passage.

:-)

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TAKE THE PC

Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
I got vinyl under my behind
Beemers wanna match me, Harley's wanna catch me,
The PC is a friend of mine

Take the PC
Take the PC
Don't let the sound of your own wheels
Drive you crazy

Ride the roads while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just get it off the center stand
And take the PC

Well, I'm a standin' on a corner in Scottsdale, Arizona
Such a fine sight to see
It's a girl, my Lord, with a heavy load
In the trunk of a ghostly PC

Come on, baby
Don't say maybe
You gotta know the Pacific Coast
Is gonna take me

We'll never lose our favored one
Because we're having so much fun
So fire up I'm climbin' on
To take the PC

Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
Got a world of places in my mind
Lookin' for some curves, for calming down my nerves
They're not hard to find

Take the PC
Take the PC
Don't let the sound of your own wheels
Make you crazy

Come on, baby
Don't say maybe
You gotta know the Pacific Coast
Is gonna take me

Oh, we got a PC
We gotta take the PC




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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 16:12:07 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
CC: "'2001APCO'" <pacificcoast@egroups.com>, "'PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: "Take the PC"

Excellent Bruce.  One of my favorite songs so it was easy to sing along
to the melody.

Creative people are scary.

Thomas

Pickett, Bruce D wrote:
> 
> Mike Gunderson made me do it!
> 
> This is adapted from the Eagles' song "Take it Easy",
> and its dedicated to Ann and her Great Pacific Northwest Passage.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Bruce Pickett
> Federal Way, WA
> '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> TAKE THE PC
> 
> Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
> I got vinyl under my behind
> Beemers wanna match me, Harley's wanna catch me,
> The PC is a friend of mine
> 
> Take the PC
> Take the PC
> Don't let the sound of your own wheels
> Drive you crazy
> 
> Ride the roads while you still can
> Don't even try to understand
> Just get it off the center stand
> And take the PC
> 
> Well, I'm a standin' on a corner in Scottsdale, Arizona
> Such a fine sight to see
> It's a girl, my Lord, with a heavy load
> In the trunk of a ghostly PC
> 
> Come on, baby
> Don't say maybe
> You gotta know the Pacific Coast
> Is gonna take me
> 
> We'll never lose our favored one
> Because we're having so much fun
> So fire up I'm climbin' on
> To take the PC
> 
> Well, I'm runnin' down the road, turning on my cruising mode
> Got a world of places in my mind
> Lookin' for some curves, for calming down my nerves
> They're not hard to find
> 
> Take the PC
> Take the PC
> Don't let the sound of your own wheels
> Make you crazy
> 
> Come on, baby
> Don't say maybe
> You gotta know the Pacific Coast
> Is gonna take me
> 
> Oh, we got a PC
> We gotta take the PC
> 
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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Eagles Song
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:26:30 -0500

And I thought I was bad, making up motorcycle verses to "Jesus Loves Me."

-eddie



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 Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:47:39 +0100

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From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" <Emile.Nossin@klm.nl>
To: "'hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu'" <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>,
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Subject: RE: FW: PC800: Fwd: 2002 plans Honda
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:47:34 +0100 

> From: 	pwr@infinet.com[SMTP:pwr@infinet.com]
> 2002 model year motorcycles
> > centerstands would be eliminated.
> Urban legend, albeit a nice fresh one. Heard about this on another
> list. You've been had.
>  Cheers--Phil
> 
Hmm... I had a feeling it sounded kinda unbelievable..
like that story about that lady that poored hot McD
coffee over her... I'm normally the last person to forward
stuff without checking....now they had got me anyway...
thanks Phil..

Emile


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:02:30 -0500
To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re(2): PC800: Chicago MC Show
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

At 8:57 AM -0500 12/5/00, PC800 Rider wrote:
>
>
>Do we get to choose which face we attach to your name? If so it might be worth
>the trip:-)
>
>Tim Davies
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"


If I could actually choose which face to attach to my name, do you 
seriously think I would have picked the face I have?   Geez...


:-)

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From: Glassrhino@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:43:16 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:43:15 EST
Subject: PC800: Hi again and update
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

hello all, 

i know that i have not been on in the last couple of months....suffice it to 
say that i am an engineering student and have been deeply involved with the 
mysteries of science(wierd mystical music in the background).

I am still riding Nuala(irish for red haired girl), a 98 Pc, and have about 
24k on her.  i have been looking through the past notes and there are a 
couple of points i wanted to make,especially about brakes, but i will include 
that in the following email.

my current project is turbocharging a Suzuki GS500E, a parallel twin worth 
about 40hp.  i am hoping to bump it up to about 80hp, but this may require 
some VERY mystical incantations there.  I will let you know how its going.  
By the way, anyone 
have a spare variable vane turbine laying around? :)

Please feel free to email me....



Alexander
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:45:50 EST
Subject: PC800: Offered: BMW K100 engine
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hey all,

a friend of mine converted a BMW K100 to an electric bike(very cool, by the 
way), and has a spare k100 engine in his garage that he is looking to sell 
for a reasonable cost.  

If you are interested and need more information, feel free to email me:  
Glassrhino@aol.com

Thanks

Alexander
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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Offered: BMW K100 engine
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:55:02 -0800 

K100 engine? No thank you.

But Please, lets here more about the electric conversion!

Jeff Krause
95 PC "800 Mhz"
51,000 mi
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:46 PM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Offered: BMW K100 engine


Hey all,

a friend of mine converted a BMW K100 to an electric bike(very cool, by the 
way), and has a spare k100 engine in his garage that he is looking to sell 
for a reasonable cost.  

If you are interested and need more information, feel free to email me:  
Glassrhino@aol.com

Thanks

Alexander
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Subject: Re: PC800: Hi again and update
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:04:56 -0800


> By the way, anyone
> have a spare variable vane turbine laying around? :)
>
> Please feel free to email me....
>
>
>
> Alexander

No, but I know a guy who works near the Boeing Surplus
Store................Listen, I think you can hear him humming an old Eagles
tune....."It's another Tupperware sunrise....."

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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "Rich Fenwick" <fenwick@nn.com>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show INFO!
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:07:12 -0600


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From: "Rich Fenwick" <fenwick@nn.com>
To: "'markie800'" <markie800@netzero.net>; "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show INFO!


> I've done some initial digging on some of Mark's questions.  Hotel info
> below...
>
> :::::TRAIN INFO:::::
>
> The nearest Amtrak station to the Rosemont Convention Center is 6.8 miles
> away in Glenview, IL.  I'm sure one could hop a cab for the final 6.8
miles.
> See www.amtrak.com for more info.  By the looks of the schedules on-line,
> you will have to ride the train to "Chicago", then catch a train from
> "Chicago" out to "Glenview".
>
> *********************
> Total Fare: $34.00
> St. Louis (MO) to Glenview (IL) on Friday (2/9/01)
>
> 300 St. Louis, MO Chicago, IL 2/9/01
> Leave 4:40AM 2/9/01
> Arrive 10:00AM
> Discount Coach Seat
>
> 333 Chicago, IL Glenview, IL 2/9/01
> Leave 10:30AM 2/9/01
> Arrive 10:52AM
> Unreserved Coach Seat -- Seat not guaranteed
> **********************
>
> ::::: HOTEL INFO :::::
>
> There is a hotel right across the street from the Convention Center, it is
> called the Rosemont Suites.  Remember, the Convention Center is only a
short
> way (1.5 miles) from O'Hare, so nearby Hotels shouldn't be a problem.
> *Reasonable* is most likely going to be the problem.
>
> According to www.travelweb.com, the Rosemont Suites is $99.00 a night
> (double occupancy).  That sounds steep, but this is a *NICE* place, and it
> is right across the street from the Convention Center.  It is a 3 star
> hotel.
> Rosemont Suites Hotel
> 5500 N. River Road
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> There is a Holiday in that is roughly a block away, which is still easily
> walkable that is going for $89 a night.  It is called the
> Holiday Inn CHICAGO-O'HARE
> 5440 N. River Rd.
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> These are the two properties that I distinctly remember seeing when I was
at
> the Motorcycle show last year.  There may be others, but I do remember
these
> as being a realistic "stone's throw" from the Convention Center.
>
> There is a Doubletree Hotel listed that should be about a block away , and
> it is showing rates of $99 a night double occupancy, or $89 a night if you
> are a AAA member.  I don't recall seeing this property though.
> Doubletree Hotels O'Hare-Rosemont
> 5460 N. River Road
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> These quoted rates were from www.travelweb.com.  You may be able to get
> better rates quoted elsewhere... I don't know.  My experience though, is
> that travelweb is difficult to beat.
>
> BTW, Mark, I'm interested in joining up for this "trip"...  I'm placing my
> reservations at the Rosemont Suites, with it being across the street from
> the Convention Center and not costing any more than others...
>
> Questions?  Let me know.  I'll do my best to answer them...
>
> Rich Fenwick
> 1990 PC800
> Illinois
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
> markie800
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:43 PM
> To: PC800 List
> Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show
>
>
> A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
> Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and we thought that it might make a nice
> winter break. I'm thinking of taking Amtrak up and finding a hotel nearby.
> The plan is to take the train up Friday, stay Saturday, drink heavily
> Saturday night and sleep on the train on the way home Sunday. I figure
this
> counts a MC vacation because I don't plan on operating a car for the whole
> weekend, if I can avoid it.
>
> There is a group mentioned on the show web site that will book air and
hotel
> but no mention of travel by train. I've flown before but never taken the
> train anywhere (unless you count the zoo train) and it just seems like a
> great adventure.
>
> Anyone familiar with the Chicago area who can give me advice on where the
> train station is relative to the Stephens Convention Center and where
might
> I find a decent, reasonable hotel close to the Convention Center?
>
> Anyone else interested in meeting up at the show, maybe dinner and
cocktails
> afterward?
>
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 19:16:25 -0600
From: William Drake <pc800rider@mediaone.net>
To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Chicago Motorcycle show

Rich,

 I think the travel web thing is wrong. Glenview is not that close to
Rosemont. I have driven this route many times and  its not that close.

but this is an option for you guys. The cabbies will get you for
probably $20 + dollars for the ride, since you would be practically
going to ohare, 
so watch out for that.

Rich is correct on the hotel part is the reasonable places to stay are 
places you don't want to stay for more than a few hours, if you get the
drift.  HEY NOW!!


The Rosemont Suites is very nice as is the Double Tree, as have attended
business parties there as is the Hotel Sofitel(attached by walkway to
the convention center(very expensive about$255/night)

for a list of hotels check out www.Rosemont.com and click on
meetings & conventions.

Just thought I'd give my 2 cents and may see some of you there.

Bill Drake
Bolingbrook, IL
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From: Glassrhino@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:19:49 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:19:49 EST
Subject: PC800: Brakes: bolts and alternative pads
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hey all, 

a couple of people had some questions about brakes and such that i thought i 
might be able to shed some light on.  as an example of some of the stuff that 
my team and i have worked on,  check out page 26 of the Jan 2001 CYCLE WORLD. 
There is a brake rotor for sale there that was directly COPIED from a design 
we developed in '98 and used on our FSAE race car(Photos are on file, college 
students arent allowed to apply for patents, the universities retain all 
designs....*%$!....  PS.  they dont tell you in the ad that this type of 
rotor eats pads like it's going out of style:)

I was reading a question about brake bolts.  Generally, one does not wish 
their brake calipers to be locked extremely tight on the fork.  this is for 
several reasons, number one of which is that even if your support bolt is 
torqued to high heaven, your brake pads still float back and forth, up and 
down. Also, brake rotors expand and contract as they get hot and cool.  some 
even warp a little(nasty business that)  As for the quality of the 
fastener(sp?), i am quite sure that Honda used a HUGE safety factor in 
specifying that type of bolt.  HOWEVER, do yourself a favor, and get an Honda 
replacement if you lose, break or eat the old ones.   As for the hardening 
involved with these bolts, maybe the Ultimate shear strength is not required, 
but remember that the bolt is still subjected to cycling of loads and several 
orders of vibration.  Honda probably used the least expensive bolt which 
would match the required safety factor.  Besides, it covers you for the 
product liability area.  

as far as brake pads, well, when i stated before that i like to ride 
aggressively, lol, that may have been an understatement.   i have used 3 sets 
of pads and 3 sets of tires in 24000 miles.   (i should get a sportbike, but 
where would i put the groceries?).  I have called and spoken to Performance 
Friction and SBS and even tried a couple of  free sets on my bike(amazing 
what you get if you just ask).  My personal opinion is that choosing brake 
pads is a balancing of performance and longevity.  If you want better 
gripping pads, they typically wear out quicker, and vise-versa.  While i 
liked the SBS pads, i much enjoyed the longer lasting, more expensive 
Hondaline pads.  Different horses for different courses, as the saying goes.  
  

If you have questions, the guys at performance friction love to help out 
riders, and the guys for SBS do, too.  you should be able to find contact 
numbers on the net. Or if you cant find the answer to something, let me know 
and i will ask a couple of my professors(they gotta be good for something, 
right?)


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:22:33 EST
Subject: PC800: Anyone know of/used a good set of heated grips?
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

hey all, 


I am looking for a quality set of heated grips for a 98 PC.

any ideas?

Alexander 

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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "Rich Fenwick" <fenwick@nn.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show INFO!
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:27:00 -0600

I spent some time today on various web sites looking for hotels and
transportation. Those of you who read Rich's post (thanks for the info) will
notice that the train leaving St. Louis leaves at 4:40 a.m (as in "almost
morning"). I may have to abandon the train idea and fly up. United is
offering round trips for about $120 that leave at a civilized time (like
after sun up) and only takes about an hour. Must be why train travel
declined in popularity. One wag suggested that I ride my PC up.

The Rosemont Suites sounds good, I also found it on TRAVELWEB but neglected
to notice the double occupancy caveat. I checked again this evening and
still couldn't find it. I'll probably book the room and take my chances.
They offer trans to O'Hare, full breakfast and a "cocktail reception" in the
evening. Can you imagine their reaction when a bunch of scooter trash
crashes their bar and breaks into an off-key rendition of "Take the PC" ?

Hope to see a bunch of you there. Should be a great time. Thanks for all the
help.

Mark G.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show INFO!


> I've done some initial digging on some of Mark's questions.  Hotel info
> below...
>
> :::::TRAIN INFO:::::
>
> The nearest Amtrak station to the Rosemont Convention Center is 6.8 miles
> away in Glenview, IL.  I'm sure one could hop a cab for the final 6.8
miles.
> See www.amtrak.com for more info.  By the looks of the schedules on-line,
> you will have to ride the train to "Chicago", then catch a train from
> "Chicago" out to "Glenview".
>
> *********************
> Total Fare: $34.00
> St. Louis (MO) to Glenview (IL) on Friday (2/9/01)
>
> 300 St. Louis, MO Chicago, IL 2/9/01
> Leave 4:40AM 2/9/01
> Arrive 10:00AM
> Discount Coach Seat
>
> 333 Chicago, IL Glenview, IL 2/9/01
> Leave 10:30AM 2/9/01
> Arrive 10:52AM
> Unreserved Coach Seat -- Seat not guaranteed
> **********************
>
> ::::: HOTEL INFO :::::
>
> There is a hotel right across the street from the Convention Center, it is
> called the Rosemont Suites.  Remember, the Convention Center is only a
short
> way (1.5 miles) from O'Hare, so nearby Hotels shouldn't be a problem.
> *Reasonable* is most likely going to be the problem.
>
> According to www.travelweb.com, the Rosemont Suites is $99.00 a night
> (double occupancy).  That sounds steep, but this is a *NICE* place, and it
> is right across the street from the Convention Center.  It is a 3 star
> hotel.
> Rosemont Suites Hotel
> 5500 N. River Road
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> There is a Holiday in that is roughly a block away, which is still easily
> walkable that is going for $89 a night.  It is called the
> Holiday Inn CHICAGO-O'HARE
> 5440 N. River Rd.
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> These are the two properties that I distinctly remember seeing when I was
at
> the Motorcycle show last year.  There may be others, but I do remember
these
> as being a realistic "stone's throw" from the Convention Center.
>
> There is a Doubletree Hotel listed that should be about a block away , and
> it is showing rates of $99 a night double occupancy, or $89 a night if you
> are a AAA member.  I don't recall seeing this property though.
> Doubletree Hotels O'Hare-Rosemont
> 5460 N. River Road
> Rosemont, Illinois, United States, 60018
>
> These quoted rates were from www.travelweb.com.  You may be able to get
> better rates quoted elsewhere... I don't know.  My experience though, is
> that travelweb is difficult to beat.
>
> BTW, Mark, I'm interested in joining up for this "trip"...  I'm placing my
> reservations at the Rosemont Suites, with it being across the street from
> the Convention Center and not costing any more than others...
>
> Questions?  Let me know.  I'll do my best to answer them...
>
> Rich Fenwick
> 1990 PC800
> Illinois
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
> markie800
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:43 PM
> To: PC800 List
> Subject: PC800: Chicago MC Show
>
>
> A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
> Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and we thought that it might make a nice
> winter break. I'm thinking of taking Amtrak up and finding a hotel nearby.
> The plan is to take the train up Friday, stay Saturday, drink heavily
> Saturday night and sleep on the train on the way home Sunday. I figure
this
> counts a MC vacation because I don't plan on operating a car for the whole
> weekend, if I can avoid it.
>
> There is a group mentioned on the show web site that will book air and
hotel
> but no mention of travel by train. I've flown before but never taken the
> train anywhere (unless you count the zoo train) and it just seems like a
> great adventure.
>
> Anyone familiar with the Chicago area who can give me advice on where the
> train station is relative to the Stephens Convention Center and where
might
> I find a decent, reasonable hotel close to the Convention Center?
>
> Anyone else interested in meeting up at the show, maybe dinner and
cocktails
> afterward?
>
>
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From: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Hi again and update
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:43:18 -0800 

Well how big do you need? The turbines lying around here all have vanes about 5 feet long and up. Got a special on 60,000 lb thrust GE turbines if you need one. Hey, I think there's one in the back marked "KLM" or something, but I'd be a Desperado if I let that one go. I guess your search is in vain.

;-)

Bruce Pickett 
Federal Way, WA 
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" 
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From: Great Ned [mailto:greatned@quik.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:05 PM
To: Glassrhino@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Hi again and update



> By the way, anyone
> have a spare variable vane turbine laying around? :)
>
> Please feel free to email me....
>
>
>
> Alexander

No, but I know a guy who works near the Boeing Surplus
Store................Listen, I think you can hear him humming an old Eagles
tune....."It's another Tupperware sunrise....."

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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 20:23:57 -0600
From: "Rick Corwine" <rickcorwn@qwest.net>
To: "PC800 Rider" <yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show

Francois, 
Are you going to be at the Mpls. MC show? If so can we pick
a face for you here too  ;-)

"A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving."
Lao Tzu

Rick Corwine
Chanhassen, MN
1995 "Raven"

PC800 Rider wrote:
> 
> fsl@borgconsulting.com writes:
> >At 8:42 PM -0600 12/4/00, markie800 wrote:
> >
> >>A couple of weeks back, Bob Ronecker and I talked about going up to the
> >>Chicago Show. It is Feb 9 - 11 and ...
> >
> >
> >I will be at the Chicago show helping Rob Pemble of Sport Touring
> >Accessories at Deal's Gap Motorcycle Resort by manning the booth at
> >the show.   I'll be there all 3 days.
> >
> >I hope to meet some list members there, both new and old faces.  Drop
> >by and see me and you can finally put a face to the name, and join
> >the club of other disillusioned, disappointed, surprised people who
> >have met me!
> >
> >Ride safe
> >
> >fsl
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> >Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
> >1995 PC800
> >Waltzing Matilda
> 
> Do we get to choose which face we attach to your name? If so it might be worth
> the trip:-)
> 
> Tim Davies
> Seneca Falls, New York 13148
> '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"
> 
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> HSTA #8387
> HRCA #HM100878
> 
> "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 20:29:37 -0600
From: "Rick Corwine" <rickcorwn@qwest.net>
To: "pc800 list, pc" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Mpls. MC show

Hey,

Is anyone planning on going to the Mpls. MC show? It's
January 26-28.

Cars transport the body.
Motorcycles transport the soul.

Rick Corwine
Chanhassen, MN
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <rickcorwn@qwest.net>, "pc800 list, pc" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Mpls. MC show
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:09:20 -0800



> Hey,
>
> Is anyone planning on going to the Mpls. MC show? It's
> January 26-28.
>
We just watched "Fargo" again last night, Rick.  I think the Twin Cities are
too violent for this small town guy.  I'll stay home and read some old
Popular Mechanics magazines instead.

Lee Barker
97 "Secondo con Brio"



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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Just a vacation riding thought as solstice nears...
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:23:31 -0800



Often since the Y2K ride I have relived this sequence of events (recited =
here for new listers):

Roger Ries queries the list:  Anyone near Eureka willing to take =
delivery of my motorcycle?  I have time to do the ride and then ride =
home, but not ride out there first.

I responds:  Surely, send it along, I'll care for it, and you and Cindy =
can stay at our house.

He did, they did, and off we went.


Extrapolating this experience, I wonder if you would consider this:

Another lister says, I want to see (your area here), but don't have the =
time to do the whole thing on my PC.  Does anyone near YAH have a =
hankerin' to see My Area?

Yup, sure and I do, you answers.

So BOTH parties fly to the respective destinations, retrieve the garage =
key from beneath the second rock to the left,  fire up the host PC and =
ride toward each other!

Some miles(days, weeks) later they meet at the prearranged locus of this =
circumscribed cartograph, swap back to their very own machines, and =
continue on their homeward way!

This would be a neat story to pass on to the grandchildren.

Can you see yourself doing it?

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"

along, I'll care=20
for it, and you and Cindy can stay at our house.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He did, they did, and off we =
went.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Extrapolating this experience, I wonder =
if you=20
would consider this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another lister says, I want to see =
(your area=20
here), but don't have the time to do the whole thing on my PC.&nbsp; =
Does anyone=20
near YAH have a hankerin' to see My Area?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup, sure and I do,&nbsp;you =
answers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So BOTH parties fly to the respective =
destinations,=20
retrieve the garage key from beneath the second rock to the left,&nbsp; =
fire up=20
the host PC and ride toward each other!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some miles(days, weeks) later they meet =
at the=20
prearranged locus of this circumscribed cartograph, swap back to their =
very own=20
machines, and continue on their homeward way!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would be a neat story to pass on =
to the=20
grandchildren.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can you see yourself doing =
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lee Barker</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>95 "Secondo con =
Brio"</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:29:29 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago MC Show

At 8:23 PM -0600 12/5/00, Rick Corwine wrote:
>Francois,
>Are you going to be at the Mpls. MC show? If so can we pick
>a face for you here too  ;-)


Sorry, I won't be at the Mpls.  show...  the only reason I am working 
the Chicago show this year is that I am in Chicago on a contract 
until the spring.   I work at Americade every year, and I have done 
the New York show a couple of times.   I'm looking forward to the 
Chicago show. I hear it is pretty busy..

Ride safe.

fsl :-)
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From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: PC800: Re: Offered: BMW K100 engine 
   of "Tue, 05 Dec 2000 19:45:50 EST." <5a.deb1967.275ee63e@aol.com> 
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:08:29 -0600

Glassrhino@aol.com writes:
> Hey all,
> 
> a friend of mine converted a BMW K100 to an electric bike(very cool, by the 
> way), and has a spare k100 engine in his garage that he is looking to sell 
> for a reasonable cost.  

"Is it PC compatible?"  :-)

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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:55:48 -0800 (PST)
From: "J. A. Kopp" <JAKopp@excite.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Just a vacation riding thought as solstice nears...
X-Sender-Ip: 38.28.67.197

I think it's a brilliant idea. Clearly you are (as my late brother in law
used to call me) quite a fart smeller. What a great way to do a one-way ride
without having to ship a bike. How would the respective insurance companies
view such a swap?

Cheers,

Joel Kopp
Seattle
'95 Coaster (currently laid up with a nose injury)

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:23:31 -0800, Great Ned wrote:

|  Often since the Y2K ride I have relived this sequence of events (recited
here for new listers):
|  
|  Roger Ries queries the list:  Anyone near Eureka willing to take delivery
of my motorcycle?  I have time to do the ride and then ride home, but not
ride out there first.
|  
|  I responds:  Surely, send it along, I'll care for it, and you and Cindy
can stay at our house.
|  
|  He did, they did, and off we went.
|  
|  
|  Extrapolating this experience, I wonder if you would consider this:
|  
|  Another lister says, I want to see (your area here), but don't have the
time to do the whole thing on my PC.  Does anyone near YAH have a hankerin'
to see My Area?
|  
|  Yup, sure and I do, you answers.
|  
|  So BOTH parties fly to the respective destinations, retrieve the garage
key from beneath the second rock to the left,  fire up the host PC and ride
toward each other!
|  
|  Some miles(days, weeks) later they meet at the prearranged locus of this
circumscribed cartograph, swap back to their very own machines, and continue
on their homeward way!
|  
|  This would be a neat story to pass on to the grandchildren.
|  
|  Can you see yourself doing it?
|  
|  Lee Barker
|  95 "Secondo con Brio"


==================================
Joel A. Kopp
Seattle





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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:37:06 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven)
Subject: PC800: Wanna swap PC's?

In response to Great Ned's thread about swapping PC's halfway...

http://www.cyberset.com/bikeshare/index.html

This is a website that allows you to swap bikes internationally.


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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Turbo?
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:35:23 -0500

(The search for a suitable turbo was in vane? Geez.)


=)
My Honda dealer has 3 CX650 turbos. 1 pristine runner/ 2 for spares.

-eddie



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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:25:25 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Offered: BMW K100 engine
From: Tony L Miller <tonylmiller@juno.com>

Of course, David.  We just have to figure out how to rig it up to power
the front wheel!  Prolly take a couple of weekends.

Tony

On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:08:29 -0600 David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
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> Glassrhino@aol.com writes:
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > a friend of mine converted a BMW K100 to an electric bike(very 
> cool, by the 
> > way), and has a spare k100 engine in his garage that he is looking 
> to sell 
> > for a reasonable cost.  
> 
> "Is it PC compatible?"  :-)
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 06:33:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Ries <rogerries@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Mpls. MC show
To: rickcorwn@qwest.net, "pc800 list, pc" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

I'm going.

The HSTA is having a booth at the show so I plan on being there on
Friday night.

We, the HSTA, is planning on meeting Saturday around 11:30 for lunch.
Haven't picked a place yet. There is a new place opening that I am
checking out because it's close to the Convention Center.

Join us for lunch, then join us inside. Nice org and some good riding
with other people.

National HSTA web site
http://www.ridehsta.com/

MN HSTA web site
http://mnhsta.freeservers.com/

MN HSTA user list (Actually this is geared more to people who ride in
MN but a lot of the riders are members of the HSTA)
http://www.egroups.com/group/MN-Sportbike



--- Rick Corwine <rickcorwn@qwest.net> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Is anyone planning on going to the Mpls. MC show? It's
> January 26-28.
> 
> Cars transport the body.
> Motorcycles transport the soul.
> 
> Rick Corwine
> Chanhassen, MN
> 1995 "Raven"
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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: <Glassrhino@aol.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone know of/used a good set of heated grips?
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 06:59:53 -0800

I have just finished alot of research on heated grips or gloves and what
other riders have to say. Both have their plus and minus's. I decided on Hot
Grips. Read about them at:
www.hotgrips.com

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
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Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: PC800: Anyone know of/used a good set of heated grips?


> hey all,
>
>
> I am looking for a quality set of heated grips for a 98 PC.
>
> any ideas?
>
> Alexander
>


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From: HondaMotorbike@aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:59:07 EST
Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 PC Running lights... 
To: transalp1@mindspring.com, mlinkous@inetone.net, jtq@together.net,
        tourrider@hotmail.com, rstar@aa.net, pc800rider@mediaone.net,
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        markie800@netzero.net
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hi

Again to update you, there is a new image in 
"http://communities.msn.co.uk/pc800" of a new destroyed front 
reflector.........

As promised i have the new reflectors, have designed the LED's and sent them 
to the workshop for drilling (the holes for LED's and the slot for the cable 
routing).

That will take about 2 weeks i bet, once done it wont take long (probs a few 
days) to get the LED's in and have a working prototype as i have the wire, 
LED's and connectors already.

Will keep you posted with updates and pics soon, also the controller is still 
in design, but i have managed to source a supplier of the HONDA OEM 
connectors so i can now move forward with that part.

Laters <ash>
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From: Glassrhino@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:39:39 -0500 (EST)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:39:39 EST
Subject: PC800: For Sale: K100RT engine (Details)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

hey all 

spoke to my friend today...it is an '85 BMW K100RT(1000cc), fuel injected 
engine.  the bike's frame has 25k miles on it, but the engine does not match 
the frame.  Steve(my friend) says it started up strong and didnt leak oil, 
when it was on the bike.  When he converted the bike to electric, he used the 
electrical harness, but took out most everything else. this all comes with 
the engine:  fuel tank, fuel pump, exhaust, radiator, Fuel ignition and black 
box.  

make us an offer if you like.   you would have to take care of shipping 
costs, but i think that we could crate it up for you nicely.  

Anyway let me know

Alexander

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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "J. A. Kopp" <JAKopp@excite.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Just a vacation riding thought as solstice nears...
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 06:32:33 -0800



How would the respective insurance companies
> view such a swap?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Joel Kopp
> Seattle
> '95 Coaster (currently laid up with a nose injury)
> 

We need Gordon Creed to weigh in on this.

Unless he's in Florida on a MISSION.
  

Lee

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:37:56 -0500
To: Glassrhino@aol.com
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone know of/used a good set of heated grips?
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

At 8:22 PM -0500 12/5/00, Glassrhino@aol.com wrote:
>hey all,
>
>
>I am looking for a quality set of heated grips for a 98 PC.
>
>any ideas?
>
>Alexander
>


Hello Alexander.

I looked at all the Heated Grips out there, and ended up going a much 
cheaper route.  I bought a heated grip kit for a snowmobile.  It 
consists of a thin adhesive film, with a pattern of metal, similar in 
concept to the rear window defroster of a car.   You remove your 
grips, peel and stick these around the handlebar, then re-install the 
stock grips, or a replacement set if you so desire.   Like any heated 
grips I have used, the right grip heats up faster than the left, 
since the plastic throttle sleeve insulates against the cold of the 
bar, whereas on the left side the handlebar acts as a huge heatsink. 
It does warm up, but it takes a bit longer.  The kit was about $18 if 
I remember correctly, and came with everything required.   The 
manufacturer is Kimpex, and if you search the archives I did provide 
a source for them at the time I installed them, or you can try your 
local snowmobile dealer.  I've had mine for a couple of years now, 
and they are still working really well.  As far as price/performance 
goes, they are pretty hard to beat.

Ride safe,

fsl
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Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
1995 PC800
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From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" <Emile.Nossin@klm.nl>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Anyone know of/used a good set of heated grips?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 01:30:40 +0100 

> >I am looking for a quality set of heated grips for a 98 PC.
> >any ideas?
> >Alexander
> 
Hein Gericke heated grips. Cheap, durable and
very hot. Check out my ST installation at:
http://emile.itgo.com/hotgrips.html

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:38:21 -0600
From: "Rick Corwine" <rickcorwn@qwest.net>
To: "Roger Ries" <rogerries@yahoo.com>, "	pc800 list, pc" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Mpls. MC show

Sounds like a great plan, I've been wanting to get involved
with the HSTA for a while, now I can meet some of the local
membership. Keep me posted. So far it looks like you and I
will be the only PCers at the Mpls.. show. L7ee's afraid of
wood chippers or something, I never could watch that whole movie.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in 
one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the
line broadside, 
thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil and shouting, "GERONIMO!"

Rick Corwine
Chanhassen, MN
1995 "Raven"

Roger Ries wrote:
> 
> I'm going.
> 
> The HSTA is having a booth at the show so I plan on being there on
> Friday night.
> 
> We, the HSTA, is planning on meeting Saturday around 11:30 for lunch.
> Haven't picked a place yet. There is a new place opening that I am
> checking out because it's close to the Convention Center.
> 
> Join us for lunch, then join us inside. Nice org and some good riding
> with other people.
> 
> National HSTA web site
> http://www.ridehsta.com/
> 
> MN HSTA web site
> http://mnhsta.freeservers.com/
> 
> MN HSTA user list (Actually this is geared more to people who ride in
> MN but a lot of the riders are members of the HSTA)
> http://www.egroups.com/group/MN-Sportbike
> 
> --- Rick Corwine <rickcorwn@qwest.net> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Is anyone planning on going to the Mpls. MC show? It's
> > January 26-28.
> >
> > Cars transport the body.
> > Motorcycles transport the soul.
> >
> > Rick Corwine
> > Chanhassen, MN
> > 1995 "Raven"
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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: RE: Kimpex Heated grip kit
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:38:52 -0800 

Francois,

 I found a Kimpex "thumb warmer" kit at a "Kimpex" website,
but no heated grip kit.  Is this the same company?
I am interested in it for my 2-hr per day commute in
Santa Barbara County (YES it DOES get cold in California!).

Jeff Krause
95 PC "800 Mhz"
Santa Barbara County, CA



Original Message:

"I looked at all the Heated Grips out there, and ended up going a much 
cheaper route.  I bought a heated grip kit for a snowmobile.  It 
consists of a thin adhesive film, with a pattern of metal, similar in 
concept to the rear window defroster of a car.   You remove your 
grips, peel and stick these around the handlebar, then re-install the 
stock grips, or a replacement set if you so desire.   Like any heated 
grips I have used, the right grip heats up faster than the left, 
since the plastic throttle sleeve insulates against the cold of the 
bar, whereas on the left side the handlebar acts as a huge heatsink. 
It does warm up, but it takes a bit longer.  The kit was about $18 if 
I remember correctly, and came with everything required.   The 
manufacturer is Kimpex, and if you search the archives I did provide 
a source for them at the time I installed them, or you can try your 
local snowmobile dealer.  I've had mine for a couple of years now, 
and they are still working really well.  As far as price/performance 
goes, they are pretty hard to beat.
Ride safe,

Francois Saint Laurent
Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
1995 PC800
Waltzing Matilda"
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:02:08 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: PC800: Kimpex heated Grips

Hi everyone.


I'm trying to search the archives for a posting I would have made a 
while back regarding a source for the Kimpex heated grips.  In 
searching the archives, I have been unable to find any reference, 
even though I know it is in there.  I then tried to search for my 
last name, but it wasn't there either.

So... what am I doing wrong?   I've used the archive before, both in 
Browse and in Search mode.  Heck, I even tried searching on the word 
PC800, and still got 0 hits...

Any ideas?

fsl
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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
To: "Honda Sport Touring Association" <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>,
        <bbrnst@swbell.net>
Cc: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        "cmh-moto" <cmh-moto@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: AMA
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:44:36 -0500

I agree with you Barry,

For years I rode without joining the AMA. I felt that my rights weren't in
jeopardy so why bother.
The longer I rode the more discrimination I saw towards Dirt riders, Racers,
and even white collars living in gated communities. I camp a lot on my
motorcycle ,10-20 days a year, and every time I check in I wait for the
counter person to say "we don't cater to bikers!".

I feel AMA is a much needed organization. Without them we would have no
voice.

The thing that surprises me is the low number of members and the amount of
good they do.


Mike Whited

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From: "Barry Berndt" <bbrnst@swbell.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: AMA


>     I am in several organizations two of which are the AMA and the NRA
which
> receive criticism for poor management, inefficient use of money by those
at the
> top,etc.  I still give them money for this reason.  In this country these
> groups are taken to be the voice of the motorcycle rider by the
legislative and
> regulatory bodies in this country.  True, the motorcycling community is
not a
> homogeneous group of people as evidenced by the Harley cruiser
enthusiasts, the
> dirt bike riders, the racers, sport bike riders, and last but not least
the
> sport touring riders.  The American Motorcycle Association has to
represent all
> these various interests in Washington.  It is however the only voice with
real
> influence up there (besides the manufacturers, who have far more capital
to
> spend on influence than any group of riders do).  When the AMA speaks the
> government assumes that this is what the motorcyclists of this country are
> saying.  There is no way that an organization as large as this with as
much
> divergence of interests as the different groups that make it up have can
please
> everybody all the time. Despite this I think that they do a reasonably
good job
> at least much of the time.  Of course they spend a lot of time on some
issues
> that don't affect me personally.  Of course I don't always agree with
every
> issue that the organization promotes.  However, most of the time the AMA
is out
> there looking after my interests.  If they don't certainly no other group
> will.  As the saying goes, we all have to hang together otherwise we'll
hang
> separately.
>
> william grubb wrote:
>
> > Thats why they don`t get my money anymore........a lot like the
NRA....good
> > concept....both organizations are in line with my beliefs.......terrible
> > management at times....
>
>

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From: "A.J. Dobbs" <aj@SOLUTIONS.ATLAST1.COM>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: "A. J. - AOL" <ajdobbs@aol.com>
Subject: PC800: Bushtec Trailer For Sale (Pulled by my '94 PC)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:45:05 -0500
Importance: Normal

Good Morning Everyone,

I have decided to sell my '97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 Trailer (black).  I love the
trailer but have decided to purchase a motorboat.  My wife says the Trailer,
Helix and Cushman Scooters have to go.  I am of course, keeping my PC.

Here are the specifics:

I have a 1997 Black Turbo + 2 Trailer that is in Perfect Condition For
Sale.  It has less than 1,000 total miles of travel usage. 

Please Note: Over $4400.00 has been invested in this Top of the Line
Trailer.  I have receipts for the original purchase and all accessories.

It has the following Options (I believe this is “FULLY” loaded):

Spoiler Style Lid w/ Optional 3rd Brake Light
“Aerowing” w/ Brake Light
Stone Protection Bra
Luggage Rack With Daytona Wing
Matching “Genesis” Bumper
Full interior Carpet Kit
Garment Bag
Map & Document Pouch
Large Storage Pouch
Spare Wheel / Tire Assembly
Spare Tire Cover
Interior Light
Cooler Package (cooler w/ drain, cover & frame)
Chrome Chassis Neck
Chrome Retractable Tongue Stand
8 Spoke Mag Wheels w/ 6-ply Bushtec Tires
Progressive Syringe Air Pump w/ Gauge
Super Lube
Trailer Cover
Bushtec Video Manual


Trailer Specifications:

Length Overall: 80”
Width (Widest Point): 36”
Height (Tallest Point): 30”
Empty Weight: 125 lbs.
GVW Rating: 350 lbs.
Storage: 25 cu. Ft.
Interior (at narrowest points): 46” * 26” * 16”

I am asking $3500.00 or best offer.  If you are interested please e-mail me
at ajdobbs@aol.com

You can see the pictures of the trailer at:
http://bushtecturbo2forsale.homestead.com/Turbo2.html

Thanks,


A.J. Dobbs

'94 PC w/ matching '97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 Trailer

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:37:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Bushtec Trailer For Sale (Pulled by my '94 PC)
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


--- "A.J. Dobbs" <aj@SOLUTIONS.ATLAST1.COM> wrote:
> Good Morning Everyone,
> 
> I have decided to sell my '97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 Trailer (black).  I love
> the trailer but have decided to purchase a motorboat.  My wife says the
> Trailer, Helix and Cushman Scooters have to go.  I am of course, keeping
> my PC.

And we can assume, of course, that you will be towing the motorboat with
the PC?  <g>

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Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K) 

AMA #492485, HRCA #239441, HSTA #6030, RCMC, STOC #1571

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From: "Rich Fenwick" <fenwick@nn.com>
To: "'Tim Macy'" <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>,
        "'List PC800'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Bushtec Trailer For Sale (Pulled by my '94 PC)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:14:51 -0600
Importance: Normal

Don't laugh....

Tim Davies and I saw a guy pulling a boat behind his Gold Wing at Honda
Homecoming 2K.  The trailer had a Pennsylvania plate that had "Boat Trailer"
stamped under the license plate number.  It was at the Hampton Inn, where we
were staying.  Tim tried to get pictures, but it was too dark when he took
them.  The next morning, it was gone.

(It was a boat, but not a real boat.  It was an attention getter though...)

Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800
Illinois


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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:38 PM
To: List PC800
Subject: Re: PC800: Bushtec Trailer For Sale (Pulled by my '94 PC)



--- "A.J. Dobbs" <aj@SOLUTIONS.ATLAST1.COM> wrote:
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> I have decided to sell my '97 Bushtec Turbo + 2 Trailer (black).  I love
> the trailer but have decided to purchase a motorboat.  My wife says the
> Trailer, Helix and Cushman Scooters have to go.  I am of course, keeping
> my PC.

And we can assume, of course, that you will be towing the motorboat with
the PC?  <g>

=====
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Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K)

AMA #492485, HRCA #239441, HSTA #6030, RCMC, STOC #1571

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From: "Nikki O'Quinn" <nikki@dmapub.dma.org>
Subject: PC800: Re: CMH-MOTO: Re: AMA
To: cmh-moto <cmh-moto@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: Honda Sport Touring Association <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>,
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My apologies for the previous message sent this topic...  I was ruminating
and rambling and had decided to ditch the whole thing.  Unfortunately, the
X and C keys (I'm using Pine mailer)  are right next to each other and I
am not a touch typist.  Just Nevermind the previous  message this topic

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 16:03:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nikki O'Quinn" <nikki@dmapub.dma.org>
Subject: PC800: Re: CMH-MOTO: Re: AMA
To: cmh-moto <cmh-moto@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, MTW wrote:


> For years I rode without joining the AMA. I felt that my rights weren't in
> jeopardy so why bother.

Yeah, me too.

> The longer I rode the more discrimination I saw towards Dirt riders, Racers,
> and even white collars living in gated communities. I camp a lot on my
> motorcycle ,10-20 days a year, and every time I check in I wait for the
> counter person to say "we don't cater to bikers!".

I tend to stay with the chain motels when I travel so discrimination as a
biker is not something I ever considered.  The problem I have had is
convincing counter people that there will be only one person in the room.
This has happened when I was travelling alone.

> I feel AMA is a much needed organization. Without them we would have no
> voice.
> 
> The thing that surprises me is the low number of members and the amount of
> good they do.

> Mike Whited

As diverse as the membership is in the AMA, I too am surprised they get
anything accomplished.  The old saying "Ya can't please 'em all all the
time" is true with the AMA.  I don't agree with everything they do either,
but I agree with them more than I disagree.  So I continue to happily pay
my dues so we motorcycle riders of all riding styles have a voice in our
legislative and regulatory processes.

The AMA has been accused of fiduciary inefficiency (wasting money).  In
any organization larger than one person, there will be a certain level of
spending that will not benefit everybody at the same level.  

I was a treasurer for a Not For Profit (NFP) organization for 3 years and
am currently a budgeteer for the Federal Government. NFP's usually have a
clearly stated mission, but how that mission is accomplished is quite
subjective.  The organization establishes it's own charter and bylaws.  
Certain money matters are guided by Section 501(c) of the IRS Code.  As
long as requirements under 501(c) are met the charter, bylaws and current
board of directors specify what funds are spent on what acivities or
assests.




> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Berndt" <bbrnst@swbell.net>
> To: "Honda Sport Touring Association" <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: AMA
> 
> 
> >     I am in several organizations two of which are the AMA and the NRA
> which
> > receive criticism for poor management, inefficient use of money by those
> at the
> > top,etc.  I still give them money for this reason.  In this country these
> > groups are taken to be the voice of the motorcycle rider by the
> legislative and
> > regulatory bodies in this country.  True, the motorcycling community is
> not a
> > homogeneous group of people as evidenced by the Harley cruiser
> enthusiasts, the
> > dirt bike riders, the racers, sport bike riders, and last but not least
> the
> > sport touring riders.  The American Motorcycle Association has to
> represent all
> > these various interests in Washington.  It is however the only voice with
> real
> > influence up there (besides the manufacturers, who have far more capital
> to
> > spend on influence than any group of riders do).  When the AMA speaks the
> > government assumes that this is what the motorcyclists of this country are
> > saying.  There is no way that an organization as large as this with as
> much
> > divergence of interests as the different groups that make it up have can
> please
> > everybody all the time. Despite this I think that they do a reasonably
> good job
> > at least much of the time.  Of course they spend a lot of time on some
> issues
> > that don't affect me personally.  Of course I don't always agree with
> every
> > issue that the organization promotes.  However, most of the time the AMA
> is out
> > there looking after my interests.  If they don't certainly no other group
> > will.  As the saying goes, we all have to hang together otherwise we'll
> hang
> > separately.
> >
> > william grubb wrote:
> >
> > > Thats why they don`t get my money anymore........a lot like the
> NRA....good
> > > concept....both organizations are in line with my beliefs.......terrible
> > > management at times....
> >
> >
> 
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Subject: PC800: Re: AMA 
   of "Thu, 07 Dec 2000 06:44:36 EST." <000701c06043$1810bf80$4b491841@columbus.rr.com> 
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:06:47 -0600

I was last a member of the AMA in the middle of their attack against 
Ruger Arms Co, where insurance provided to employees discriminated 
against motorcyclists. A Bad Thing(tm).

However, the AMA's approach to the situation was absolutely terribly 
awfully wrong and stupid. A Bad Thing Too(tm).

Two wrongs don't make a right.

There is also the dishonorable way the AMA has run their motorsports
events.

I won't be a member of the AMA for a very long time. As long as it 
takes for them to turn around, or for someone to be motivated enough to 
form a replacement in opposition the the existing AMA.

It doesn't matter that the AMA is supposed to be *for* motorcyclists, 
its that they don't do it in a way that is acceptable. They are a long 
ways from being honorable gentlemen.

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:42:52 -0600
From: "Rick Corwine" <rickcorwn@qwest.net>
To: "Jeff Krause" <jkrause@foarm.com>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Kimpex Heated grip kit

Jeff,

I found a heating element type grip heater at Aerostich: 
http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store
go to Electric Vest, Liner and Gadgets, then page 3 of 4
you'll find a product like the Kimpex, it may even be the
Kimpex but they're $37.00 a little pricey but if you gotta
pay too much for something I'd rather give it to people like
the folks at Aerostich than to some others.

Ride swift, ride safe

Rick Corwine
Chanhassen, MN
1995 "Raven"


Jeff Krause wrote:
> 
> Francois,
> 
>  I found a Kimpex "thumb warmer" kit at a "Kimpex" website,
> but no heated grip kit.  Is this the same company?
> I am interested in it for my 2-hr per day commute in
> Santa Barbara County (YES it DOES get cold in California!).
> 
> Jeff Krause
> 95 PC "800 Mhz"
> Santa Barbara County, CA
> 
> Original Message:
> 
> "I looked at all the Heated Grips out there, and ended up going a much
> cheaper route.  I bought a heated grip kit for a snowmobile.  It
> consists of a thin adhesive film, with a pattern of metal, similar in
> concept to the rear window defroster of a car.   You remove your
> grips, peel and stick these around the handlebar, then re-install the
> stock grips, or a replacement set if you so desire.   Like any heated
> grips I have used, the right grip heats up faster than the left,
> since the plastic throttle sleeve insulates against the cold of the
> bar, whereas on the left side the handlebar acts as a huge heatsink.
> It does warm up, but it takes a bit longer.  The kit was about $18 if
> I remember correctly, and came with everything required.   The
> manufacturer is Kimpex, and if you search the archives I did provide
> a source for them at the time I installed them, or you can try your
> local snowmobile dealer.  I've had mine for a couple of years now,
> and they are still working really well.  As far as price/performance
> goes, they are pretty hard to beat.
> Ride safe,
> 
> Francois Saint Laurent
> Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
> 1995 PC800
> Waltzing Matilda"
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:53:13 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Kimpex Heated grip kit

At 7:42 PM -0600 12/7/00, Rick Corwine wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>I found a heating element type grip heater at Aerostich:
>http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store
>go to Electric Vest, Liner and Gadgets, then page 3 of 4
>you'll find a product like the Kimpex, it may even be the
>Kimpex but they're $37.00 a little pricey but if you gotta
>pay too much for something I'd rather give it to people like
>the folks at Aerostich than to some others.


I checked out the picture of these and they look exactly like the 
Kimpex kit.  I do agree that they are pricey at $37.  If the search 
function was working on the PC800 archives, I could find the US 
source I had previously posted, where they were available for $12.95 .


I'm going back to Ottawa this weekend, so I'll check my old computer 
that I had back then. The message might still be in the OUT basket...

Ride safe.

fsl
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Waltzing Matilda

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1.


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From: "George and Gloria Hilsinger" <ghilsing@wolfenet.com>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Heated Grips
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 06:29:44 -0800
Importance: Normal

I found a web site for KPX-Kimpex that has motorcycle and snowmobile stuff.
Their catalog shows two different grip heaters.  The first is the HOT Grip
and the second is the Polly Grip heater (maybe it keeps your teeth warm?).
http://www.kpx-kimpex.com/cat/cdn/snowmobile/snowmobile_0712.pdf

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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Kimpex Heated grip kit
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:57:43 -0800 

  Thanks Guys!

 Even $37 is a great deal compared to some of
the $100 grip sets I've seen. I may end up
adding a controller for it, but I will try it
w/out first (simpler is better).

Jeff Krause
95 PC "800 MhZ"
Santa Barbara County


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Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Kimpex Heated grip kit


At 7:42 PM -0600 12/7/00, Rick Corwine wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>I found a heating element type grip heater at Aerostich:
>http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store
>go to Electric Vest, Liner and Gadgets, then page 3 of 4
>you'll find a product like the Kimpex, it may even be the
>Kimpex but they're $37.00 a little pricey but if you gotta
>pay too much for something I'd rather give it to people like
>the folks at Aerostich than to some others.


I checked out the picture of these and they look exactly like the 
Kimpex kit.  I do agree that they are pricey at $37.  If the search 
function was working on the PC800 archives, I could find the US 
source I had previously posted, where they were available for $12.95 .


I'm going back to Ottawa this weekend, so I'll check my old computer 
that I had back then. The message might still be in the OUT basket...

Ride safe.

fsl
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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "LDRiders" <ldrider@ldriders.org>
Subject: PC800: 4 Corner Ride Movie
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:27:24 -0800

I put together a short movie of my 4 Corner USA ride at PhotoPoint.com:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/SmashCast?u=43057&mode=list
Just click on the "4 Corners USA"  movie.


Will Edwards
Washington state
96 Honda PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: "Dit-dit....dit-dit-dit....dit-dit-dit"  -  800 MhZ update (Long)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 13:12:17 -0800 

My PC's current stats:

I bought her 1 year ago this month at Bert's in Azusa, CA
http://www.bertsmotorcyclemall.com/index.htm 
(the PC800 capital of California), with about 23K miles.
It was stock except for a +2" Rifle shield.

It now has 52K miles (29K mi in 1 year) and seems
none the worse for wear.
I have had to do NO repairs OR adjustments what so ever.
Oil, filters, 1 set of brake pads and of course, tires - thats it.
Getting 47 mpg average on my commute on regular gas.

I used to be obsessed about keeping my bikes in perfect adjustment, but I
am treating the PC more like a used 4-wheel Honda - no special treatment.
I am planning on keeping it a looong time and rebuilding it at
no sooner than 200,00 miles (pray for me).

MODS:
Not much compared to most of you on the list.
Bought a +7 Rifle shield (I look through it, no over).

10' of Neon-Trim to improve the all-important "side visibilility" in night
traffic.
(A 1/16" dia orange-illuminating cable clear-silicon'd
to the tupperware so I can remove it when neccissary).
Other colors include "Aqua", "Blue", "Yellow" and "Coral".
It has been functioning perfectly for 10 months.
http://rdr.net/~schill32/varad.html

Mounted a cheap monster 150/90/H15 IRC 410 Durotour on the rear that
has worked well with the ME 880 up front for the past 8200 miles,
The IRC is just going though the center wear bar markers now, but the
shape is still much rounder than the ME880 rear was when I replaced
it, so I am going to push it just a bit more until my new IRC arrives.

Sorry, no pictures - it could just as well be a "stock" photo anyway!

Lets here more summary stats from some some  PC listers.
Jeff Krause
95 PC "800MhZ"
Santa Barbara County, CA
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Piloot.com>
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Subject: PC800: New Wing review
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:26:49 +0100
Importance: Normal

Original dashboard review:
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/21sept00wingcommand2001.html
Part 1 (nov20):
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/20nov00honda2001goldwingpart1.html
Part 2 (NEW, dec7):
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/07dec00honda2001wingreview2.html

Emile
www.ipcrc.org

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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 14:55:50 -0800 


If you are shopping for the 1/16" Power Neon Cable, the cheapest
place($40 for a 10' kit)for it on the net (so far) is at:

http://www.affsave.com/neon2.htm

This source is NOT one the the "Custom Car"-type web sites,
which might explain why it is HALF the price here than elsewhere.

 I used a 10' Orange kit (PNC204) wrapping around the faring
along the natural seam that runs from one toe to the other,
going over the top of the mirrors along the way.

I used clear silicone (RTV) to stick it to the Tupperware
so that I could remove the cable every 6 months for servicing.
- Silicone is a little messy to work with, but it can look good
once you learn how to work with it.  I used electrical tape to
tack the cable in place, then tacked the spots between the tape
with tiny dabs of clear silicone and let that cure.
After the tacked spots cured, the tape is removed. Then I
swept the cable with the silicone (wiping excess off)so that every
inch was held in place - this needs to be re-done every 6 months,
but I don't know of any other attachment method that is
attractive, yet removable.  - Any Ideas?

The power inverter is a tiny 1" square box that I put under
the Rider's seat. There is a harness connector there that you
can plug into, which results in the cable being normally on
with the ignition key, but goes off whenever you use your brakes.
Tapping into the terminal block (I presume the PC has one?)
might be better, although this way I can "flash" the cable
with my brakes.




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From: Christoffer Carstanjen [mailto:captaintupperware@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:10 PM
To: Jeff Krause
Subject: neon trim


Jeff,

that  Neon-Trim  - that's cool!

just where did you put the trim? one 10 section or two
fives? - Is there a transformer? - where's that?

thanks!

cmc


> 
> 10' of Neon-Trim to improve the all-important "side
> visibilility" in night
> traffic.
> (A 1/16" dia orange-illuminating cable
> clear-silicon'd
> to the tupperware so I can remove it when
> neccissary).
> Other colors include "Aqua", "Blue", "Yellow" and
> "Coral".
> It has been functioning perfectly for 10 months.
> http://rdr.net/~schill32/varad.html
> 

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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
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Subject: PC800: led source.
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:24:05 -0500

Thanks Jeff, for the neon cable source. Have you seen
http://www.affsave.com/scan5.htm ?
For the rest of the group, these might interest those looking for LEDs.
-eddie



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From: RVPC800@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:46:35 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: "Dit-dit....dit-dit-dit....dit-dit-dit"  -  800 MhZ update (Long)
To: jkrause@foarm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu



In a message dated 12/8/00 1:13:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
jkrause@foarm.com writes:


> I am planning on keeping it a looong time and rebuilding it at
> no sooner than 200,00 miles (pray for me).
> 
> 

Hiya Jeff

I really dont think you will need any special prayers. Unless I am sadly 
mistaken, there has never once been a case of anyone on this list ever 
needing an engine rebuild for a PC800. One lister has over 250,000 miles on 
his bike with never an overhaul or engine related problem. I seriously do not 
think that you will be anywhere near ready for one at 200K. My PC is closing 
in on the 75 thou mark and I do believe that it runs better now than when I 
bought it new 5 and a half years ago!

Russ Vernon
95 PC

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From: Matt Armbruster <Matt@starsys.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:03:01 -0700

Hi Folks,

I'm new to the list and am looking for some "veteran advice".  I've been 
looking at PC's for years and have decided that it is absolutely the bike I 
want to have.  I've got a lead on one locally and want to know if it's 
worth getting.

I went and test rode an '89 that the seller had picked up a month before in 
trade for some work he did.  He doesn't know much at all at about PC's much 
less the history of this bike.  It's got some interesting touring mods to 
it.

1989 PC800
Body seems to be in pretty good shape
67,000 miles
stock windscreen is fogged & crazed pretty badly
     has "extensions" bolted on to edges to simulate a bigger screen
shatter right mirror
custom seat that I haven't seen before
     has high (~8") driver backrest as well as
     very tall passenger backrest with
     Honda "backpack" that clips on
Highway pegs
aluminum "bumper" that wraps around rear and has
     mounting for CB antennas
custom exhaust to make it louder (can't fathom why)

The pegs and bumper were mounted to the frame by cutting through the 
plastic crash gaurds.

Also, what are the first signs of the alternator going on the 89's?  I know 
this should have happened long ago, but he'd let the bike sit for a month 
and was stone cold dead.  Jumped it and got it going, but once I returned 
and let it idle to park, it died again.

He's asking $3200 and is willing to deal.  But the reason I like the PC's 
are for their stock appeal.  So knowing that I'd need to replace the 
windsheild, crash gaurds, mirror and exhaust, what would be a ball park 
price to offer?

Thanks!
Matt
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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "'Matt \(E-mail\)'" <matt.a@usa.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:31:13 -0600
Importance: Normal

Hi Matt,

$3,200 seems like an awful lot for the bike you described. I recently bought
a one owner 97 PC-800 (Oct) with 4,700 miles on it in immaculate shape for
$5,000. I live in South Texas and I do know that there are PC-800's that
come along every once in a while on the Cycle Trader. I have seen a number
of 89's available for less that what he is asking. I would advise checking
around a bit more before making a commitment in something that may provide
suprises.

Good luck, I know that I am extremely happy with my purchase decision and
enjoy having a bike that is not too common. Surprisingly, I have had an 3
offers on my bike since I bought it and get many comments on it whenever I
am parked.

Best wishes,

Todd Teulon
97 PC-800
South Texas "Zeniac"

 PS Cycle Trader Listing as of December 8th.

 Apple Valley, CA    $2,500.00
 1989 HONDA, $2,500 PACIFIC COAST, 800cc, like new, extra clean, must see,
must sell, obo, 760-240-1330
 see photos


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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: IRC 150/90-15's and clearances
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:37:51 -0600
Importance: Normal



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From: tteulon [mailto:tteulon@usaonline.net]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:15 PM
To: 'Jeff Krause'
Subject: IRC 150/90-15's and clearances


Dear Jeff,

I noticed that you have a IRC 150/90 H15 Tire on the rear. I have been
considering putting a Dunlop K555 150/80-15 on the rear but was concerned
about the clearances. Have you had any problems with the IRC? I normally
ride 1up, however, I do on occasion travel with my wife loaded down at about
40lbs over recommended maximum weight. I'm not sure about the front to back
ratio, however, we do have a GIVI E460 mounted on the back with about 10lbs.
and carry about 30lbs in the trunk.

I have a 97 PC-800 and I believe it is the same specs as the 95.

Thanks alot for you input.


Todd Teulon
97 PC-800
South Texas "Zeniac"

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From: JACKKPTS@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:44:18 -0500 (EST)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:44:18 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

That does sound like alot for a bike with that mileage.  I bought my '90 last 
year, for that same price in like new condition and only 12K miles, with an 
extra Hondaline tall shield and the Hondaline stereo.  Good luck.

Jack Kamoske
'90 PC - Cool Runnings
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From: ejw@cnwl.igs.net
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:21:44 -0500
Subject: PC800: New owner on the block

 Hi, i've been browsing the list for a little over a month now and have 
learned a lot from all of you. Some have even given some very 
valuable support off list, for this I thank you. 

 I would like to thank Bruce Pickett for bringing the 97 PC in 
LaPlata, MD to the list's attention. My wife will be very happy on 
Xmas morning when she finds out it will soon be hers. I have made 
the deal via Email and will be picking it up sometime in January if it 
lives up to its billing. 

Eric Wilson 
Cornwall, Ontario
'97' Concours

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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: <ejw@cnwl.igs.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New owner on the block
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:52:53 -0800

Boy, that's going to be one big email attachment.
Won't that be fun to wrap.  I hope all the other wives don't read about
this, all we will hear is "look at what Eric gives his wife."
Happy miles to both of you.

Will
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
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>  I would like to thank Bruce Pickett for bringing the 97 PC in
> LaPlata, MD to the list's attention. My wife will be very happy on
> Xmas morning when she finds out it will soon be hers. I have made
> the deal via Email and will be picking it up sometime in January if it
> lives up to its billing.
>
> Eric Wilson
> Cornwall, Ontario
> '97' Concours


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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
To: "Matt \(E-mail\)" <matt.a@usa.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:18:52 -0500

It seems a little pricey to me, especially if it's not the exact bike that
you want. I think you should be able to find a stock '89 with 10-25K miles
for the same price.

To replace the damaged and customised items that you mentioned (windshield,
seat, crashbar covers and mirror) I'd guess to be around $1000.

I'd hold off on this one.

I hope this helps.

Mike Whited ' 94 PC800

Columbus Ohio
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From: "Matt Armbruster" <Matt@starsys.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:03 PM
Subject: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...


> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm new to the list and am looking for some "veteran advice".  I've been
> looking at PC's for years and have decided that it is absolutely the bike
I
> want to have.  I've got a lead on one locally and want to know if it's
> worth getting.
>
> I went and test rode an '89 that the seller had picked up a month before
in
> trade for some work he did.  He doesn't know much at all at about PC's
much
> less the history of this bike.  It's got some interesting touring mods to
> it.
>
> 1989 PC800
> Body seems to be in pretty good shape
> 67,000 miles
> stock windscreen is fogged & crazed pretty badly
>      has "extensions" bolted on to edges to simulate a bigger screen
> shatter right mirror
> custom seat that I haven't seen before
>      has high (~8") driver backrest as well as
>      very tall passenger backrest with
>      Honda "backpack" that clips on
> Highway pegs
> aluminum "bumper" that wraps around rear and has
>      mounting for CB antennas
> custom exhaust to make it louder (can't fathom why)
>
> The pegs and bumper were mounted to the frame by cutting through the
> plastic crash gaurds.
>
> Also, what are the first signs of the alternator going on the 89's?  I
know
> this should have happened long ago, but he'd let the bike sit for a month
> and was stone cold dead.  Jumped it and got it going, but once I returned
> and let it idle to park, it died again.
>
> He's asking $3200 and is willing to deal.  But the reason I like the PC's
> are for their stock appeal.  So knowing that I'd need to replace the
> windsheild, crash gaurds, mirror and exhaust, what would be a ball park
> price to offer?
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <ejw@cnwl.igs.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New owner on the block
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 06:33:38 -0800

Eric, soon you'll be hearing from Tim Davies if you haven't already.

You might as well start polishing up the Concours in preparation for sale
and looking around for a bookend PC.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"


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From: <ejw@cnwl.igs.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:21 PM
Subject: PC800: New owner on the block


> Hi, i've been browsing the list for a little over a month now and have
> learned a lot from all of you. Some have even given some very
> valuable support off list, for this I thank you.
>
>  I would like to thank Bruce Pickett for bringing the 97 PC in
> LaPlata, MD to the list's attention. My wife will be very happy on
> Xmas morning when she finds out it will soon be hers. I have made
> the deal via Email and will be picking it up sometime in January if it
> lives up to its billing.
>
> Eric Wilson
> Cornwall, Ontario
> '97' Concours
>
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: That DEEElightful database
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:37:21 -0800



New PC owners:

One of the alltime gifts of this Web and this List is the maintenance =
database.  It is easy to get your stuff in there--a great wintertime =
discipline--and helpful to see what others are up to.

http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/

My thanks again to Daniel for this impressive service.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Info"




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From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
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Subject: Re: PC800: New owner on the block
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:44:04 -0600

Hey,

I had an idea...

Go to your local furniture store and see if you can get a box about the size
of a couch and wrap it.  (Saw a LaZBoy box on the side of the road in
Rockford yesterday that looked like it would due nicely--not that you want
to come to IL to get it though!!)   Inside the rather oversized box, place
all the pictures and e-mail attachments.  Don't forget to add something for
weight!  Don't want those sneaky wives checking under (AROUND) the tree.

I can see it already...  "Hey honey, look what Santa left for you under
(around) the tree!!  Gee, I wonder what it is?"

Have a Happy Holiday Season Everyone!!

and...

"May the COAST be with you!"

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com

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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
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Subject: PC800: attn. newish red PC owners
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:47:02 -0800

Just a kinda pretty page I happened upon.

http://www.hpmotorcycles.com/honda/motorcycles/touring/pac_coast.html

Anybody want to swap for a black one?

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"
(Stop whimpering!!!  I was just kidding, Secondo.  You've been insecure
since Roger brought some Plexus for Red and I didn't have anything new to
give you!)

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From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
To: "PC 800 LIST" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: attn. newish red PC owners
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:52:41 -0600

"(Stop whimpering!!!  I was just kidding, Secondo.  You've been insecure
since Roger brought some Plexus for Red and I didn't have anything new to
give you!)"


And all of you thought Bruce and I were going stir crazy writing songs about
PCs to the tune of our favorite Eagles' songs.

Hey Lee, look out, the men in the white coats are coming, the white coats
are coming, the white coats are coming...

Hey, there's someone at the door.  Oh NO!  There here too!!!!!  Gotta go!!

*<[]8-)~

"May the COAST be with you!"

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
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Subject: Re: PC800: attn. newish red PC owners
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:01:54 -0800


>
> Hey Lee, look out, the men in the white coats are coming, the white coats
> are coming, the white coats are coming...
>
> Hey, there's someone at the door.  Oh NO!  There here too!!!!!  Gotta go!!
>
> *<[]8-)~
>
> "May the COAST be with you!"
>
> Mike Gunderson

Our forecast high for Monday is 0.  They'll never get those sleeves to
buckle together in that temperature.

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From: "Bob Ronecker" <bobduwah@networkusa.net>
To: <tteulon@usaonline.net>, "'Matt \(E-mail\)'" <matt.a@usa.com>,
        <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:28:04 -0600

In todays St Louis Post newspaper there is a 89 for sale says excellent
cond, 12k, $2000 firm. The phone number
is (573) 431-7976
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From: "tteulon" <tteulon@usaonline.net>
To: "'Matt (E-mail)'" <matt.a@usa.com>; <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...


> Hi Matt,
>
> $3,200 seems like an awful lot for the bike you described. I recently
bought
> a one owner 97 PC-800 (Oct) with 4,700 miles on it in immaculate shape for
> $5,000. I live in South Texas and I do know that there are PC-800's that
> come along every once in a while on the Cycle Trader. I have seen a number
> of 89's available for less that what he is asking. I would advise checking
> around a bit more before making a commitment in something that may provide
> suprises.
>
> Good luck, I know that I am extremely happy with my purchase decision and
> enjoy having a bike that is not too common. Surprisingly, I have had an 3
> offers on my bike since I bought it and get many comments on it whenever I
> am parked.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Todd Teulon
> 97 PC-800
> South Texas "Zeniac"
>
>  PS Cycle Trader Listing as of December 8th.
>
>  Apple Valley, CA    $2,500.00
>  1989 HONDA, $2,500 PACIFIC COAST, 800cc, like new, extra clean, must see,
> must sell, obo, 760-240-1330
>  see photos
>
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:16:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Who's going to the Toronto MC Show 1/5-7
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I am pleased as (spiked)punch to announce the Western
Mass PC800 delegation will be making the journey to
the great white north.

Our accommodations will be in downtown Toronto at the
Days Inn, which we secured for $99CDN plus tax and
tip. We opted to stay in-town, instead of by the Expo
Centre for the atmosphere.   

On behalf of the WMPC800 and Tim, we hope you will
join us all at the show and dinner on Saturday.

So, who's going - or even thinking about going?  Let
the list know...



Christoffer



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> Motorcycle Super Show at
> the International Centre in Toronto
> (http://www.internationalcentre.com) from
> January 5-7, 2001. 


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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:43:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: New owner on the block
To: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu,
        ejw@cnwl.igs.net

I was think..."just how you would hide something like
a PC800?"  Why not rent a self-storage place for a few
months? ..just give her the key to the padlock! 

I know....

Make a pirates treasure map where X marks the spot or
better yet - make it a mystery tour of where you place
further clues at friends' homes. 

Have the friends join in on the "search" while you
visit the next clue sight. Don't tell your friends
other than "I'd like for you to join along...it'll
always get leaked back to her...". 

By the time she finds out the last clue - You'll have
all of her (and your) friends to welcome her to her
new bike.  

Some self storage places have an outlet inside (or you
can buy a threaded incandesant(sp) light bulb fixture
with an outlet or two on them) - borrow an electric
coffee pot and have mulled cider or eh..even  coffee
while you show off the "new" bike...

Happy Holi-daze!!!


cmc


--- Michael & Marlisa Gunderson <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I had an idea...
> 
> Go to your local furniture store and see if you can
> get a box about the size
> of a couch and wrap it.  (Saw a LaZBoy box on the
> side of the road in
> Rockford yesterday that looked like it would due
> nicely--not that you want
> to come to IL to get it though!!)   Inside the
> rather oversized box, place
> all the pictures and e-mail attachments.  Don't
> forget to add something for
> weight!  Don't want those sneaky wives checking
> under (AROUND) the tree.
> 
> I can see it already...  "Hey honey, look what Santa
> left for you under
> (around) the tree!!  Gee, I wonder what it is?"
> 
> Have a Happy Holiday Season Everyone!!
> 
> and...
> 
> "May the COAST be with you!"
> 
> Mike Gunderson
> Davis, IL USA
> 1989 Pacific Coast
> "STORMTROOPER"
> mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
> http://mrgunderson.tripod.com
> 
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From: "Will Edwards" <rstar@aa.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: attn. newish red PC owners
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:28:39 -0800

Nice site, but evidently the owner does not keep it very current..

Will 
Washington state
96 PC800
Focus your eyes to where you want to be,
Not to where you are afraid of falling to...
.
.
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
> http://www.hpmotorcycles.com/honda/motorcycles/touring/pac_coast.html
> 
> Anybody want to swap for a black one?
> 


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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:39:11 -0000
From: "Rocky " <rocheux@juno.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Tim Davies

Tim Davies of New York state please contact stanrocklin@yahoo.com.
Need your current email address.
Rocky

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Subject: RE: PC800: Cold weather pants FS
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:36:24 -0500
Importance: Normal

Have been sold.



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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:36:29 -0600

This Sunday's St. Louis Post Dispatch has the following ad -

"89 Honda Pacific Coast, white, exc. cond., 12K miles, $2,000/firm
(573) 431-7976"

According to Excite, the bike is located in Bonne Terre, Mo.

Mark G.

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From: "MTW" <MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
To: "Matt (E-mail)" <matt.a@usa.com>; <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...


> It seems a little pricey to me, especially if it's not the exact bike that
> you want. I think you should be able to find a stock '89 with 10-25K miles
> for the same price.
>
> To replace the damaged and customised items that you mentioned
(windshield,
> seat, crashbar covers and mirror) I'd guess to be around $1000.
>
> I'd hold off on this one.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Mike Whited ' 94 PC800
>
> Columbus Ohio
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Armbruster" <Matt@starsys.com>
> To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:03 PM
> Subject: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I'm new to the list and am looking for some "veteran advice".  I've been
> > looking at PC's for years and have decided that it is absolutely the
bike
> I
> > want to have.  I've got a lead on one locally and want to know if it's
> > worth getting.
> >
> > I went and test rode an '89 that the seller had picked up a month before
> in
> > trade for some work he did.  He doesn't know much at all at about PC's
> much
> > less the history of this bike.  It's got some interesting touring mods
to
> > it.
> >
> > 1989 PC800
> > Body seems to be in pretty good shape
> > 67,000 miles
> > stock windscreen is fogged & crazed pretty badly
> >      has "extensions" bolted on to edges to simulate a bigger screen
> > shatter right mirror
> > custom seat that I haven't seen before
> >      has high (~8") driver backrest as well as
> >      very tall passenger backrest with
> >      Honda "backpack" that clips on
> > Highway pegs
> > aluminum "bumper" that wraps around rear and has
> >      mounting for CB antennas
> > custom exhaust to make it louder (can't fathom why)
> >
> > The pegs and bumper were mounted to the frame by cutting through the
> > plastic crash gaurds.
> >
> > Also, what are the first signs of the alternator going on the 89's?  I
> know
> > this should have happened long ago, but he'd let the bike sit for a
month
> > and was stone cold dead.  Jumped it and got it going, but once I
returned
> > and let it idle to park, it died again.
> >
> > He's asking $3200 and is willing to deal.  But the reason I like the
PC's
> > are for their stock appeal.  So knowing that I'd need to replace the
> > windsheild, crash gaurds, mirror and exhaust, what would be a ball park
> > price to offer?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:57:00 -0400
To: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>, PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: "Dit-dit....dit-dit-dit....dit-dit-dit"  -  800 MhZ update (Long)

Hello from Halifax, Jeff, and welcome to the group.

I run the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at

        http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/

it's for people to store their maint and repair records for their own use,
and for sharing that info with other PC riders.  It would be great to have
your bike's purchase, maintenance and repair data in the system, since the
more bikes are there, the more useful the database is.

--
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Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada


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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:16:09 -0400
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: That DEEElightful database

Lee writes:

Why thank you, thank you.  Credit for the data submission web form goes to
the amazing Monty Shaw.

It's end-of-season for MOST  of the people on the list (yes I realize that
there are some of you who can drive year round, that's what MOST means and
I DON'T need to hear how nice the weather is, just send in your database
entries) so it is indeed a good time to catch up on your maintenance and
repair log.

Dan in Halifax -- +10~C tomorrow, I'm gonna be out on my PC!

>One of the alltime gifts of this Web and this List is the maintenance
>database.  It is easy to get your stuff in there--a great wintertime
>discipline--and helpful to see what others are up to.
>
>http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/


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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:29:00 -0600
        "Re: PC800: That DEEElightful database" (Dec 11, 10:16am)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: That DEEElightful database

Aaawww, Cmon.  The only thing that makes suffering through summer worthwhile is
blowing all winter about how nice the weather is!  Have Mercy!

Revill Dunn
Rider of Whirby
In Warm, Sunny Texas

By the way, it's 50 degrees and cloudy this morning, with SNOW predicted
tomorrow.  (Yeah.  Right.  Suuuuure.  And the election will be over too,
right?)

On Dec 11, 10:16am, Daniel MacKay wrote:
> Subject: Re: PC800: That DEEElightful database
> Lee writes:
>
> Why thank you, thank you.  Credit for the data submission web form goes to
> the amazing Monty Shaw.
>
> It's end-of-season for MOST  of the people on the list (yes I realize that
> there are some of you who can drive year round, that's what MOST means and
> I DON'T need to hear how nice the weather is, just send in your database
> entries) so it is indeed a good time to catch up on your maintenance and
> repair log.
>
> Dan in Halifax -- +10~C tomorrow, I'm gonna be out on my PC!
>
> >One of the alltime gifts of this Web and this List is the maintenance
> >database.  It is easy to get your stuff in there--a great wintertime
> >discipline--and helpful to see what others are up to.
> >
> >http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/
>
>
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> Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>
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From: "Kenneth" <klw@centurytel.net>
To: "Jeff Krause" <jkrause@foarm.com>
Cc: "Pacific Coast mailing list" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:35:24 -0500


I like the idea of this power cable.  I find that the power draw is only.
85 mA @ 13.8VDC for the 5" length
130 mA @13.8VDC for the 10' length

I have a question pending with manufacturer about the effects of using the
cable as a braking light.
i.e... will constant switching cause premature failure..  Thought do I want
the brake light to signal around the perimeter of the bike???
***Input please*****

It would draw more attention, but it is a confuse attention??
I wonder if it could be hooked to the pulse three times and then solid on
brake leds??

Kenneth Winter


>
> If you are shopping for the 1/16" Power Neon Cable, the cheapest
> place($40 for a 10' kit)for it on the net (so far) is at:
>
> http://www.affsave.com/neon2.htm
>
> This source is NOT one the the "Custom Car"-type web sites,
> which might explain why it is HALF the price here than elsewhere.
>
>  I used a 10' Orange kit (PNC204) wrapping around the faring
> along the natural seam that runs from one toe to the other,
> going over the top of the mirrors along the way.
>
> I used clear silicone (RTV) to stick it to the Tupperware
> so that I could remove the cable every 6 months for servicing.
> - Silicone is a little messy to work with, but it can look good
> once you learn how to work with it.  I used electrical tape to
> tack the cable in place, then tacked the spots between the tape
> with tiny dabs of clear silicone and let that cure.
> After the tacked spots cured, the tape is removed. Then I
> swept the cable with the silicone (wiping excess off)so that every
> inch was held in place - this needs to be re-done every 6 months,
> but I don't know of any other attachment method that is
> attractive, yet removable.  - Any Ideas?
>
> The power inverter is a tiny 1" square box that I put under
> the Rider's seat. There is a harness connector there that you
> can plug into, which results in the cable being normally on
> with the ignition key, but goes off whenever you use your brakes.
> Tapping into the terminal block (I presume the PC has one?)
> might be better, although this way I can "flash" the cable
> with my brakes.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christoffer Carstanjen [mailto:captaintupperware@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:10 PM
> To: Jeff Krause
> Subject: neon trim
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> that  Neon-Trim  - that's cool!
>
> just where did you put the trim? one 10 section or two
> fives? - Is there a transformer? - where's that?
>
> thanks!
>
> cmc
>
>
> >
> > 10' of Neon-Trim to improve the all-important "side
> > visibilility" in night
> > traffic.
> > (A 1/16" dia orange-illuminating cable
> > clear-silicon'd
> > to the tupperware so I can remove it when
> > neccissary).
> > Other colors include "Aqua", "Blue", "Yellow" and
> > "Coral".
> > It has been functioning perfectly for 10 months.
> > http://rdr.net/~schill32/varad.html
> >
>
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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:43:24 -0800

Listers:

I would think that these neon light cables would be better served as running
lights rather than aux. brake lights. I mean, it makes good sense to be
highly visible when moving (i.e. that's when cagers generally like to ignore
you). Of course, the thought of zooming down the road in a bike that looks
like it came from Las Vegas makes me somewhat ambivalent.

Further opinions?

Slightly off the subject (but perhaps not, considering the topic could be
construed as 'conspicuity'), I've put about 80 square inches of 3M
ScotchLite tape on the bike and my helmet (red, black, and silver). Since
then, I've had more people notice the bike at night (which is a good thing)
and the tape doesn't look too geeky in the daytime (which is also a good
thing). I may have to snap some photos to illustrate...

I purchased it at Galls (http://www.galls.com) and it arrived in a couple
days via Priority Mail. An interesting store if you've never been, as it
supplies the Public Safety industry (i.e. fire, police, ambulance, etc.). I
always wondered where cops got some of their nifty gadgetry (like those
lights!!)

Of course, my wife, who used to design tradeshow booths, says I paid too
much for the 3M tape, and that I should have tried buying it from a sign
shop. I shrugged and said, "Oh well" :)

Cheers,

Randy
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking to buy PC800...
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:19:56 -0800


> According to Excite, the bike is located in Bonne Terre, Mo.
> 
> Mark G.
> 
5 miles up the road from me is Terrebonne, OR.  

Thought you'd be fascinated by this.

Guess I'll go buy some Good Earth tea.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Geographico"



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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: RE: PC800 IRC RS410 150/90-15's and clearances
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:35:34 -0800

For those curious about the IRC 150/90 fit,
here is a note I sent to the list a couple
months ago (updated):

        "I have the IRC 150/90/15, and I do keep it under 90 mph,
      but I attribute the lack of rubbing mainly to the unique dimensions of
the IRC,
       which even though the specification is the same, I think is a bit
smaller
       than the equivalent size 880 or Mich 150/90/15. - I noticed when
replacing it
       that it was only 4 mm wider than the 140/90/15 (ME880) I had on
before it.
       
        I really doubt I would have needed to mod the swing arm tab (for the
IRC),
       though there is no knowing for sure til' someone tries it without the
mod.
 
        The IRC is keeping it's shape well so far and is certainly not
wearing any faster
       than the ME 880, which for some reason went "only" 15K mi before
balding.
       Handling, traction and balence seem fine too.
       Cruise RPM is now indicates about 4,760 rpm at 75 mph.
       For $59~80 US bucks I am planning on replacing with same.

       HOWEVER: I ride SOLO only; For 2-up riding, stick with the 140/90 or
stock 140/80
 
        I would guess the size ratings tire companies use are just "nominal"
mold sizes,
       since mold shrinkage probably varies vary depending on the compound
they mold,
       number and type of cords/plies, etc.??"
       
 
Jeff Krause
95 PC "800 Mhz"
2,400 miles per month!
Santa Barbara County
 


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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:15 PM
To: 'Jeff Krause'
Subject: IRC 150/90-15's and clearances


Dear Jeff,

I noticed that you have a IRC 150/90 H15 Tire on the rear. I have been
considering putting a Dunlop K555 150/80-15 on the rear but was concerned
about the clearances. Have you had any problems with the IRC? I normally
ride 1up, however, I do on occasion travel with my wife loaded down at about
40lbs over recommended maximum weight. I'm not sure about the front to back
ratio, however, we do have a GIVI E460 mounted on the back with about 10lbs.
and carry about 30lbs in the trunk.

I have a 97 PC-800 and I believe it is the same specs as the 95.

Thanks alot for you input.


Todd Teulon
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South Texas "Zeniac"

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:21:33 -0800
From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
Subject: RE: PC800: Neon Trim questions
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

 OK, OK, I will try to take a digital shot of the trim
tonight after dark so people can see what it looks like.

 Regarding brake lights, The Neon trim seems bright at night,
but is invisible in daylight - no good as a brake light supplement.

 It is just good as a "free-style" marker light to help those
stealthy-black PCs like the 95s to keep from being pushed out
of their lanes at night by cagers.

 The cable CAN be stripped and spliced to shorter lengths.
(Put a single inverter in the middle of two cables, for example).
It can also be bent to a VERY SMALL radius (1/4"), so
some might consider using it as a low-current-draw custom
sign to create whatever they can imagine.
 
 Regarding "blinking" the cable via brakes:
The tiny inverter has held up fine for me. - I have it tied
into the brakes to go OFF whenever the brake lights come on.
Driving it with a headlight modulator would be asking alot,
but some less-aggressive type of modulator might work fine.

Jeff Krause
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From: Kenneth [mailto:klw@centurytel.net]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:35 AM
To: Jeff Krause
Cc: Pacific Coast mailing list
Subject: Re: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source



I like the idea of this power cable.  I find that the power draw is only.
85 mA @ 13.8VDC for the 5" length
130 mA @13.8VDC for the 10' length

I have a question pending with manufacturer about the effects of using the
cable as a braking light.
i.e... will constant switching cause premature failure..  Thought do I want
the brake light to signal around the perimeter of the bike???
***Input please*****

It would draw more attention, but it is a confuse attention??
I wonder if it could be hooked to the pulse three times and then solid on
brake leds??

Kenneth Winter

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:34:21 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: PC800: Kimpex Grip heater elements

Hi everyone.

I've got a few sets of the Kimpex Grip heater elements, as seen on 
the Aerostich web site.  These are the type that go under the grips, 
so you can re-install your stock grips.   They don't heat up as much 
as a set of true heated grips, and the right one warms up faster than 
the left one given that the left bar acts as a huge heat sink, but 
they are a lot less money than true heated grips as well.

Rider Warehouse has them at $37.  I was back home in Ottawa this past 
weekend and I picked up a few sets since they were cheaper.   $20 
will cover the kit with postage to the lower 48.  I only have a few, 
so if you are interested, reply direct to me.

Ride safe...

fsl

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:38:17 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: Who's going to the Toronto MC Show 1/5-7
To: captaintupperware@yahoo.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

captaintupperware@yahoo.com writes:
>I am pleased as (spiked)punch to announce the Western
>Mass PC800 delegation will be making the journey to
>the great white north.
>
>Our accommodations will be in downtown Toronto at the
>Days Inn, which we secured for $99CDN plus tax and
>tip. We opted to stay in-town, instead of by the Expo
>Centre for the atmosphere.   
>
>On behalf of the WMPC800 and Tim, we hope you will
>join us all at the show and dinner on Saturday.
>
>So, who's going - or even thinking about going?  Let
>the list know...
>offer
>
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 I will be in Toronto from Jan 5-7, 2001 to start the new year off the right
way, at a motorcycle show with fellow Pacific Coast riders. On my way to
Toronto I will be stopping in Burlington, Ontario for dinner and a visit with a
PC800 rider, her husband and new baby (future PC800 rider). Then I will be
heading to Toronto for Friday and Saturday night at the Celebrity Budget Inn on
Airport Road (just down the road from the show), $74.95 CD a night. At that
price I may have to sleep with the windows open so the jets can pass
through:-), but it leaves me more cash for the show. I'm sharing the room with
Francois Saint Laurent, but he is not sure yet at this point in time when he
will be arriving.

The past two years those of us who have attended the show have met up on
Saturday to make plans for the evening. In a previous message I said I would be
at the GoldWing corner of the Honda booth at 12 noon and 2 PM to meet up with
anyone else in attendance to make plans for that evening. Last year the meeting
place was just "the Honda booth", but it is so big I found the meeting spot
needed to be more specific. There should be a new GoldWing up on a raised
platform so we can meet there. Look for someone with a PC800 shirt, I know I
will be wearing mine, in case you don't know who to look for when you get there.

If you know you will be attending the show please let someone know before
January 5th then we will know to watch for you. I'd hate to miss someone like
we did last year just because we didn't know you were there.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387
HRCA #HM100878

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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:35 -0600

Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from my PC.
Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive springs
from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.Tomorrow, the whole mess goes back to
St. Louis Honda for tire mounting and to have the forks rebuilt.

With all of the advice that I received from this list, fork removal went as
expected but the top pinch bolts are a real bear to get loose. I finally
ended up using the allen wrench in the tool kit and fabricating a small
"breaker bar" from 1/2" steel pipe, about 6" long to slip over the end of
the allen wrench for additional leverage. The only other challenge was
getting all of the Mo. state inspection stickers through the lower clamp. A
note here - remove the horn, it is MUCH easier to get to the LH lower clamp
bolts. We get a sticker each year and the dealer has been pasting them
between the upper and lower clamp on the LH fork leg. You wouldn't think
that 5 years worth of stickers would be so thick but as they passed through
the lower clamp, they started to peel back, effectively wedging the fork leg
into the lower clamp. Loosening the bolts and prying the clamp apart allowed
enough room to get it loose.

I also checked the brake pads, preparing to replace them while I had the
front end apart. After 32, 495 miles, they look to have another 30K in them.
They have lots of surface left until the bottom the wear grooves.

I spent about an hour cleaning everything up. A hint for those married folks
on the list - before washing forks, fenders, hardware etc. in the kitchen
sink, you may want to check with SWMBO. This is messy, gunky stuff and if
you are caught in the act, don't say I didn't warn you. My preferred cleaner
is Simple Green for anything metal. It just flat works.

Hope to have the wheel and forks back by Thursday. FAUX looks kinda forlorn
sitting in the garage, propped up on blocks with no front end.

Selden, looks like I'll get the springs in the mail to you this Saturday.
Hope they get to you in time.

As soon as I get everything back together, I'll let the list know how it
went. Don't know when I'll get in a test ride as the forecast is calling for
very cold temps with wind chills in the -30s.

Thanks to everyone on the list for their help so far. I'm looking forward to
the finished product.

Mark Gilb
Arnold, Mo.
95 PC800 FAUX

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:11:42 -0500
To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Cc: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

At 9:23 PM -0600 12/11/00, markie800 wrote:


><major snippage>
>Selden, looks like I'll get the springs in the mail to you this Saturday.
>Hope they get to you in time.
>


Does anyone else need springs?   I have a set of front stock springs 
and rear shocks, with about 22,000 miles on them, free to a good home 
if you cover the postage.

Ride safe.....

fsl

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:01:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Jesus Soriano <jsori@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Handlebar weights
To: Philips Wong <pca420@hotmail.com>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I received my new "Wong Weights" with today's mail.
Thanks a lot Philips, they are beautiful!

Happy holidays!

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From: "Desmond Cockburn" <tourrider@hotmail.com>
To: markie800@netzero.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:37:19 -0600




>From: "markie800" >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:35 -0600
>
>Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from my 
>PC. Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive 
>springs from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.  Snip, snip the parts about 
>taking off the forks.


Mark,

I'd like to know a bit more about the Progressive Springs for the front end. 
  How are they rated for stiffness ? or are these replacements for the OEM 
springs but made by Progressive ?  Any idea what a dealer might charge to 
replace the springs ?

Des,
Okmulgee, Okla.
95 PC, Dream Weaver
"Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows."  Randle 
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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>, "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:49:13 -0600


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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:23 PM
Subject: PC800: It's about forking time


> Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from my
PC.
> Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive
springs
> from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.

I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....

Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
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From: "Barry Shaffer" <bes9@cornell.edu>
To: <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>,
        "PC800 Rider" <yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Who's going to the Toronto MC Show 1/5-7
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:48:56 -0500

Hi Tim and Others:
My wife and I, plus another couple will be coming up to Toronto on Jan. 6th.
We are planning to do the MC Show first thing in the afternoon. We will be
staying overnight and doing some other cultural things in the city. One
can't live on MC Shows exclusively (unless you're single).
See you on Jan. 6th,
Barry

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From: PC800 Rider <yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
To: <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: Who's going to the Toronto MC Show 1/5-7


> captaintupperware@yahoo.com writes:
> >I am pleased as (spiked)punch to announce the Western
> >Mass PC800 delegation will be making the journey to
> >the great white north.
> >
> >Our accommodations will be in downtown Toronto at the
> >Days Inn, which we secured for $99CDN plus tax and
> >tip. We opted to stay in-town, instead of by the Expo
> >Centre for the atmosphere.
> >
> >On behalf of the WMPC800 and Tim, we hope you will
> >join us all at the show and dinner on Saturday.
> >
> >So, who's going - or even thinking about going?  Let
> >the list know...
> >offer
> >
> >=====
> >Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar
>
>
>  I will be in Toronto from Jan 5-7, 2001 to start the new year off the
right
> way, at a motorcycle show with fellow Pacific Coast riders. On my way to
> Toronto I will be stopping in Burlington, Ontario for dinner and a visit
with a
> PC800 rider, her husband and new baby (future PC800 rider). Then I will be
> heading to Toronto for Friday and Saturday night at the Celebrity Budget
Inn on
> Airport Road (just down the road from the show), $74.95 CD a night. At
that
> price I may have to sleep with the windows open so the jets can pass
> through:-), but it leaves me more cash for the show. I'm sharing the room
with
> Francois Saint Laurent, but he is not sure yet at this point in time when
he
> will be arriving.
>
> The past two years those of us who have attended the show have met up on
> Saturday to make plans for the evening. In a previous message I said I
would be
> at the GoldWing corner of the Honda booth at 12 noon and 2 PM to meet up
with
> anyone else in attendance to make plans for that evening. Last year the
meeting
> place was just "the Honda booth", but it is so big I found the meeting
spot
> needed to be more specific. There should be a new GoldWing up on a raised
> platform so we can meet there. Look for someone with a PC800 shirt, I know
I
> will be wearing mine, in case you don't know who to look for when you get
there.
>
> If you know you will be attending the show please let someone know before
> January 5th then we will know to watch for you. I'd hate to miss someone
like
> we did last year just because we didn't know you were there.
>
> Tim Davies
> Seneca Falls, New York 13148
> '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"
>
> AMA #688662
> HSTA #8387
> HRCA #HM100878
>
> "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:55:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Selden Deemer <libssd@emory.edu>
To: PC 800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: It's about forking time 

"Desmond Cockburn" <tourrider@hotmail.com> writes:

> I'd like to know a bit more about the Progressive Springs for the 
> front end. How are they rated for stiffness ? or are these 
> replacements for the OEM springs but made by Progressive ?  Any 
> idea what a dealer might charge to replace the springs ?

I'm not Mark, but will throw in my 2 cents' worth. Progressive is the
maker of the springs. I don't know the actual rating of either the OEM
springs or the Progressives, but the latter are (reportedly) somewhat 
stiffer. As long as you don't plan on changing the fork oil, replacing 
the springs is very easy, and shouldn't require a  trip to a dealer. 
Just find a 17mm allen wrench (or fabricate a "tool" from a short metric 
bolt with a 17mm head, three 17mm nuts, and some LocTite). Replace one 
spring at a time. The two little snap out panels on either side of the 
steering stem are the only plastic bits that need to be removed. Thirty 
minutes max. 

However, if you decide to change the fork oil as well, you might want to 
take it to a dealer, since the entire front end has to come off the bike. 
If it's got more than 30,000 miles, you might want to get the seals 
changed as well, since this will add minimally to the cost of the job.

Since I'm fairly small, I haven't felt a need to replace the front 
springs on my PC (although I did increase the preload by 3/8"). But,
I gained a fair amount of experience in this area while tuning the
suspension on my Hawk. Front springs that are too soft cannot be
improved significantly with added preload. I ended up with so much
preload on the Hawk that the ride was harsh and the forks still took
a dive under braking. Stiffer springs actually yielded a plusher ride,
as well as correcting the dive problem. 

The rule of thumb for suspension is that static sag should be 1/3 of 
total front suspension travel. On a PC, this is about 1.5". The spring 
rate is correct if the top of the spring (or spring + spacer combination)
is flush with the top of the fork tube at full extension, and you get
the desired amount of static sag. If more preload is required, the 
spring is too soft, and vice versa. Varying the length of spacers by
1/8" intervals can be used to fine tune the front suspension preload.

To measure static sag, place the bike on the centerstand, then slip a
nylon cable tie around one fork leg, zip it tight, and slide it down
to the fork seal. Get on the bike and, very gently, roll it off the
center stand, then gradually put your full weight on the bike. Put
down the side stand, get off, and roll it back on to the center stand.
The distance between the fork seal and the zip tie is your static sag.
In theory, stiction can introduce errors in this measurement, and if 
you have a partner, you can improve the accuracy of this method by
having the partner lift, then gently release, the front end while 
you are seated on the bike. This may generate a slightly smaller 
static sag measurement; average the two. I've never measured more
than 1/8" difference between the two, which is good enough for me.

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Atlanta, Georgia                               EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu
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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:00:29 -0500

Except for the fact that I sometimes look like an idiot, I do the reflector
and light thing, too. Used to get lotsa (sometimes derisive, but mostly
respecfully good-natured) comments on my bicycle getup which included much
reflectorized material sewn on to my clothing, reflector tape all over my
machine, and a purloined construction beacon bolted to my luggage rack. In
the real (motorcycle) world, my clothing includes either OEM or sewn on
reflector material. But I am too new with my PC to have corrupted it yet.
Because it is so distinctive and pretty as it is, I am a little reluctant to
"destroy" it. But I am planning on doing a brighter headlight and additional
driving lights, and probably some other auxialliarly lights and maybe some
(conservative and tasteful) reflector tape. Cagers need all the help we can
give their empty little heads in seeing us so that they at least cannot
honestly say that they didn't see us. Matter of fact, isn't there a law in
some other industrialized country that "I didn't see them" is not a
justifiable excuse?

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From: Hall, Randy [mailto:randy.hall@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:43 AM
To: Pacific Coast mailing list
Subject: RE: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source


Listers:

I would think that these neon light cables would be better served as running
lights rather than aux. brake lights. I mean, it makes good sense to be
highly visible when moving (i.e. that's when cagers generally like to ignore
you). Of course, the thought of zooming down the road in a bike that looks
like it came from Las Vegas makes me somewhat ambivalent.

Further opinions?

Slightly off the subject (but perhaps not, considering the topic could be
construed as 'conspicuity'), I've put about 80 square inches of 3M
ScotchLite tape on the bike and my helmet (red, black, and silver). Since
then, I've had more people notice the bike at night (which is a good thing)
and the tape doesn't look too geeky in the daytime (which is also a good
thing). I may have to snap some photos to illustrate...

I purchased it at Galls (http://www.galls.com) and it arrived in a couple
days via Priority Mail. An interesting store if you've never been, as it
supplies the Public Safety industry (i.e. fire, police, ambulance, etc.). I
always wondered where cops got some of their nifty gadgetry (like those
lights!!)

Of course, my wife, who used to design tradeshow booths, says I paid too
much for the 3M tape, and that I should have tried buying it from a sign
shop. I shrugged and said, "Oh well" :)

Cheers,

Randy
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>, "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>,
        "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:06:24 -0800


> I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....
> 
> Ralph Couey
> Columbia, MO


Ralph, Yule regret starting this.

Lee

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:12:59 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: PC800: Kimpex Grip heater elements - SOLD

>
>  > I've got a few sets of the Kimpex Grip heater elements, as seen on
>  > the Aerostich web site.


Okay... I had 5 sets of these grip heaters, and they are all sold.

If anyone else is interested, let me know. I am going to be back in 
Canada for Christmas and can bring some back with me the 7th of 
January.

Ride safe.

fsl

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From: "Spain, Harrison" <spain@ugsolutions.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:15:41 -0800

For those looking to find this tape at galls.com, just search for the word
"reflective" at the top of the screen :-).

This stuff is very cheap life insurance :-).

Harrison

>I purchased it at Galls (http://www.galls.com) and it arrived in a couple
>days via Priority Mail. An interesting store if you've never been, as it
>supplies the Public Safety industry (i.e. fire, police, ambulance, etc.). I
>always wondered where cops got some of their nifty gadgetry (like those
>lights!!)
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:11:26 -0800
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Betty Lise Anderson <anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: PC800: Reflective tape  (was: New (cheaper) Neon trim source)

Saul,

I'm with you 100%. I got the Wong Wing just for the additional brake 
lights, and I actually thought it spiffed up the look of my bike. 
(Note: a wing precludes ever having a Givi Box, but I think a Givi 
Box can be had with brake lights)

Then, I cut out a tasteful design of silver reflector tape and put it 
on the back of the trunk. (In my case I cut out the letters "Pacific 
Coast" in the font from the owner's manual, in 3" high letters. Some 
might say not tasteful, but it was better than the other ideas I came 
up with). That broad area on the back of the trunk is a natural place 
to put reflective material (nanny nanny boo boo, other motorcycles 
don't have that). I also put a reflective MSF oval sticker on the 
back of  my passenger backrest, another good location for 
conspicuity. These were both suggested to me by people on this list.


Saul Goldberg said:

>Except for the fact that I sometimes look like an idiot, I do the reflector
>and light thing, too. Used to get lotsa (sometimes derisive, but mostly
>respecfully good-natured) comments on my bicycle getup which included much
>reflectorized material sewn on to my clothing, reflector tape all over my
>machine, and a purloined construction beacon bolted to my luggage rack. In
>the real (motorcycle) world, my clothing includes either OEM or sewn on
>reflector material. But I am too new with my PC to have corrupted it yet.
>Because it is so distinctive and pretty as it is, I am a little reluctant to
>"destroy" it. But I am planning on doing a brighter headlight and additional
>driving lights, and probably some other auxialliarly lights and maybe some
>(conservative and tasteful) reflector tape. Cagers need all the help we can
>give their empty little heads in seeing us so that they at least cannot
>honestly say that they didn't see us. Matter of fact, isn't there a law in
>some other industrialized country that "I didn't see them" is not a
>justifiable excuse?

Betty Lise Anderson, Assoc. Prof.
Department of Electrical Engineering, The Ohio State University
205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue
Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210
http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:29:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Ries <rogerries@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Wish list.
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: Pacific Coast <PacificCoast@egroups.com>

I have compiled the wish list and here are the results.


Battery Tender

K & N air Filter

Case of Mobil 1  20W-50

Honda Oil filters ($67.30 case (10) from Milpitas)

Body by Tupperware stickers

100% cotton Made in the USA white towels
(Nothing but the best for wiping down the bike.)

Plexus or Honda Spray or Pledge

Throttle Rocker

Clock
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F007%5F012%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=63%2D959

Sliks helmet protector

Fog City  anti-fog for the helmet. Works great.

Summer weight gloves

Battery Monitor

PC clothing 
http://scpcrc.org/ (Merchandise)

GPS
(Spendy, but what the heck, you never know.)

www.aerostich.com
Lots of books and movies about motorcycles.

Camping gear

Here's one.
DeLorme TOPO map of the entire state.
This is great for finding some nice roads. About $17
http://www.DeLorme.com

AeroStich catalog. Something from the kids. It's free and very good.

Tire patch kit

Mini jumper cables.
(Thanks Leland.)

Trunk lights

For about $20.00 you can get the beaded seat cover from Whitehorse
press - works perfectly with the pc800.

Digital tire pressure gauge.

Universal Vista Cruise

Philips Wong stainless steel bar-end weights

Small convex mirrors

Helmet guardian

RiderWearhouse has a flexible "headlight guard" 

Helmet Halo Reflector Band

A first aid kit

Bandana  Great for around the neck.
Or if you are short on cash and need gas. ;-)

Trunk Mats (Not sure if still available.)

Glove Box

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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:35:56 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Weather Report

Just thought you Yankees might enjoy a weather report from Austin.  For two
days now the TV weatherpeople have been hyperventilating over the Possiblility
of Severe Winter Weather.  There will be A Freeze, with an 80 percent chance of
Precipitation!  We could see Ice on windshields and maybe even on a few
unprotected bridges!  The city sand crews are standing by, and hospitals have
been alerted!!  (I'm not joking.  Front page of the paper)

At work, I've gotten three emails (copies of all 3 posted on the front door)
warning me of the possiblility of severe weather and providing me with a phone
number to call if I want to check if the entire facility has been closed down
due to The Storm.

After some debate, schools are open but they may close early today if anything
actually happens.

The paper this morning recommended storing extra water and having candles and
an alternate heat source available if you live in an all electric home.

Traffic was extremely light this morning.  I got to work in 10 minutes, it
usually takes 25.  (Yes, I wimped out and took the pickup).

Right now, it's 27 degrees outside, windy but no hint of any rain.  It was 70
degrees yesterday afternoon at 2 when the front comes through.   They're
predicting rain, sleet or freezing rain, but the only things  that will be cold
enough for it to stick should be car windshields.  It normally takes two or
three mid twenties days before anything will stick due to the high normal
ground temperature around here.  Crisp fall weather, you probably call it.

If even one little sleet droplet is spotted, this town will be filled with
crazy people driving all over everywhere picking their kids up from school and
taking them home to hide from the storm.  That's right, when the weather turns
bad everyone goes out driving.  There will be so many fender benders that the
insurance adjusters will be just passing out numbers, call you back in January.
 All this BEFORE the streets are icy!  Which they won't be, at least not today.
 Most businesses will shut down so their employees can participate in the
gridlock.  Except Home Depot, where there will be  a run on kerosene heaters.

Last time this happened, we'd had a couple of cold fronts with no break between
them, so the ground was cold enough for sleet to stick.  I got out my snow
chains (Yes, I keep chains.  Bought them at a garage sale for $2 from a Yankee
who thought he'd never need them down here) and went to the store for milk.  At
S. 1st. and St. Elmo, coming down a very slight incline, a pickup was sideways
 partially blocking the intersection.  A guy ran out in front of me waving his
hands, "DON'T GO DOWN THE HILL!".  I stopped, then drove around him and his 4
wheel drive pickup carefully; I don't think he'd ever seen chains before and
had no idea that I could have traction when he didn't.  After all, he had 4
wheel drive!  He could go anywhere!  Good thing I did, too.  I'd have run over
him when he slipped and slid in front of me trying to protect his truck.

That's a winter storm, Austin style.  If it's  cold enough to kill the bananas,
go bananas!

Revill
Rider of Whirby


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From: "Kenneth" <klw@centurytel.net>
To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
Cc: "Pacific Coast mailing list" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:19:36 -0500

Mark.
I have another bike in a similar position in my basement.  It is a project
bike and has  been sitting for several months with no wheels or forks.   It
does look odd hovering there in the corner.  Because my friends has grown to
expect my constant tinkering, I tell them that I am building a hover bike.
Some times I think the believe me for a moment when the look at the bike in
the corner.  Then the say "Ahh your just joking".  Seeing is
believing........;o)

> Hope to have the wheel and forks back by Thursday. FAUX looks kinda
forlorn
> sitting in the garage, propped up on blocks with no front end.

Kenneth Winter
East TN

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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: By Popular Demand,  PC800 Neon Trim photos 
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:38:43 -0800



PC800: By popular demand,  PC800 Neon Trim photos : 
(Well, maybe not THAT popular).
 
 <http://www.fix.net/~jkrause/PC800MhZ.htm>
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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Birthday!!
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:50:06 -0800





Listers,
 
32 years ago yesterday, I emerged from my mother's womb and the world hasn't
been the same place ever since. As for my birthday gifts, I was very, very
lucky indeed!
 
My birthday booty:
 
* Brookstone clock & thermometer (very stylish!!) - Saw them on a PC800 web
site (I can't remember which) and they looked very nice, so I axed for them.
 
* Leather jacket and chaps from Just Leathers in San Jose (VERY NICE!! - The
proprietor really knows how to differentiate his business from the myriad
competition... SERVICE! They *hemmed* my chaps while I waited! If any repair
needs to be done and can't be done right away, he'll give me loaner
equipment, so I don't have to do without!) Just Leathers appears a bit
Harley-oriented, but they appreciate any type of rider! The experience there
reminded me how easy it is to make loyal customers out of complete
strangers... If you live ANYWHERE in the SF Bay Area, it's worth the trip.
 
* Motorcycle boots (actually, this is an IOU, so I've got to determine what
kind to get)
 
I'm now much better prepared gear-wise to ride, and am much more motivated
to ride in all kinds of California weather!
 
Cheers,


Randy
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From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
To: "PC 800 LIST" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New (cheaper) Neon trim source
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:32:31 -0600

How about spelling the word POLICE with the correctly color coordinated
reflective tape in very small letters on the trunk?  Wouldn't that draw some
attention?

Yea, I guess the WRONG intention!!!

Holiday Greetings from the NORTH POLE of ILLINOIS!  10 degrees today, 12
inches of snow, winds at 30 MPH and a very neglected PC-800 in the garage!

"May the COAST be with you!"

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com

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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: By Popular Demand,  PC800 Neon Trim photos 
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:53:55 -0500



Pretty shlick, Jeff. And I guess that it is a not-so-subtle vote in the
"color campaign" for the absence of color, black, eh?

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From: Jeff Krause [mailto:jkrause@foarm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:39 PM
To: Pacific Coast mailing list
Subject: PC800: By Popular Demand, PC800 Neon Trim photos 


PC800: By popular demand,  PC800 Neon Trim photos : 
(Well, maybe not THAT popular).
 
 <http://www.fix.net/~jkrause/PC800MhZ.htm>
http://www.fix.net/~jkrause/PC800MhZ.htm 
 
 
 


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From: Jeff Krause <jkrause@foarm.com>
To: Pacific Coast mailing list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: RE: Colour Thread part XXII
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:02:37 -0800



Black?  - BLACK?  -  Nobody ever told me it was Black!
 
I demand a Re-election of my PC800 purchase!
-I mistakenly selected black because the lighting at Burt's in
Azuza was too dim for me too select the correct color (Dark Gore Grey).
 
- Just kidding.
Jeff Krause
 
 
 
 

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From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:54 AM
To: Pacific Coast mailing list
Subject: RE: PC800: By Popular Demand, PC800 Neon Trim photos 


Pretty shlick, Jeff. And I guess that it is a not-so-subtle vote in the
"color campaign" for the absence of color, black, eh?

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From: Jeff Krause [mailto:jkrause@foarm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:39 PM
To: Pacific Coast mailing list
Subject: PC800: By Popular Demand, PC800 Neon Trim photos 


PC800: By popular demand,  PC800 Neon Trim photos : 
(Well, maybe not THAT popular).
 
 <http://www.fix.net/~jkrause/PC800MhZ.htm>
http://www.fix.net/~jkrause/PC800MhZ.htm 
 
 
 


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From: EarlLaue@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:35:36 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:35:36 EST
Subject: PC800: PC800   arrival
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



"ICE" and I have arrived in the D.C. area and are residing in the Bowie 
Maryland  until the new house is ready (April 2001).
If any of the D.C. area PCers know of any jobs for an Oracle DBA give me an 
email 
   earllaue@aol.com


Earl E. Laue
"ICE" 89  18K

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From: "Fenwick" <rfenwick@core.com>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: "Pacific Coast" <PacificCoast@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wish list.
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:28:55 -0600

> Trunk Mats (Not sure if still available.)

Trunk mats?  Oh!...  That's me!

I'm the responsible party for the Trunk Mats.  If anyone is interested in
Trunk Mats for gifts (or otherwise) send me an email off list.  If there is
sufficient interest, I'll make up another batch ASAP!  $10 a pair plus
shipping.  Choice of 2 colors, Medium Grey or Black.  I think with Priority
Mail, delivery before Christmas is still possible...

Rich Fenwick


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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:14:30 -0500
To: "Desmond Cockburn" <tourrider@hotmail.com>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Cc: markie800@netzero.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

At 1:37 AM -0600 12/12/00, Desmond Cockburn wrote:
>
>Mark,
>
>I'd like to know a bit more about the Progressive Springs for the 
>front end.  How are they rated for stiffness ? or are these 
>replacements for the OEM springs but made by Progressive ?  Any idea 
>what a dealer might charge to replace the springs ?
>
>Des,

Hello Des.

I'll take a stab at this as well, since I have replaced the 
suspension at both ends of my PC800.  I replaced the front springs 
with a set from Works Performance, and am extremely pleased with the 
results.

The stock springs have a spring rate of either 35 or 40 pounds, 
depending on the source of information.  Progressive springs are 
45-65 pounds, where they are wound at 45 at the beginning and then 
progressively change over to a 65 pound spring rate. (It might be 
45-60, I don't remember exactly)

I also looked at, and ended up buying, the Works Performance springs. 
Instead of using a progressive spring where the softer rate needs to 
be completely used up before the stiffer rate comes into play, the 
Works solution uses two separate springs in each fork tube, with a 
spacer and washer assembly allowing you to decide, at the time of 
installation, at which point you want the spring rate to switch over. 
The softer, shorter spring is a 45 pound spring rate and the longer 
spring has a 65 pound spring rate.

Most dealers I spoke with said a spring change would run you 3 hours 
of labour.  I found a shop that estimated only two hours, and their 
hourly rate was even less.

An important consideration when changing the fork springs is the fork 
oil.  I have always read that you should increase the viscosity to a 
slightly thicker oil to *improve* the dampening.   When I spoke with 
the tech support folks at Works Performance when I ordered my front 
springs and rear shocks, they advised me to go the other way.  They 
suggested that I go to a 7.5 weight oil, and use a synthetic product.

Now, I can't compare to other solutions, but I can tell you that when 
I went from the stock 10 weight oil with stock springs with 22,000 
miles on them to a set of new Works Springs with the 7.5 weight 
Synthetic fork oil, the difference was incredible.

The biggest surprise of all was how I was able to greatly reduce the 
amount of front end dive by changing the rear shocks.  Yup, that's 
not a typo...  I guess the Works rear shocks do a better job of 
holding the rear end down than the stock shocks do. The difference 
was very noticeable.

When you order the Works shocks for the rear, you need to provide 
your weight, riding style, and average passenger weight, and they 
will custom build a set for you.

Like I said, I am extremely happy with this set up.  A few list 
members have driven my bike since these were installed, and they 
noticed the difference right away. The bike feels a lot tighter.

Ride safe...

fsl

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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "Desmond Cockburn" <tourrider@hotmail.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:10:41 -0600

Both Francois and Selden answered with knowledgeable and complete info, most
of which I didn't know so I'll answer the question that I understand. St.
Louis Honda is charging 1 hour shop labor to drain and fill the forks and
replace the springs. The forks will be filled with Honda-spec 10w fork oil.
The forks and the tire are due to be ready Thursday (barring the promised
blizzard on Wednesday). My guess is that the total tab, labor, parts and
shop supplies, will be somewhere between $70 - 90. Selden is correct, the
springs you could change without removing the forks but changing fork oil
requires their removal. I did notice something today while carrying the fork
legs into the shop. With the axle removed, you can see a hex bolt on the
bottom of each fork leg. Any idea what this is for? I thought it might be a
drain but didn't notice any mention of it in the service manual.

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Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time


>
>
>
> >From: "markie800" >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:35 -0600
> >
> >Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from my
> >PC. Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive
> >springs from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.  Snip, snip the parts
about
> >taking off the forks.
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I'd like to know a bit more about the Progressive Springs for the front
end.
>   How are they rated for stiffness ? or are these replacements for the OEM
> springs but made by Progressive ?  Any idea what a dealer might charge to
> replace the springs ?
>
> Des,
> Okmulgee, Okla.
> 95 PC, Dream Weaver
> "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows."  Randle
> Bains
>
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To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>, "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:11:49 -0600

Snowed in again, eh?

Mark G.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:49 AM
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
> To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:23 PM
> Subject: PC800: It's about forking time
>
>
> > Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from my
> PC.
> > Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive
> springs
> > from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.
>
> I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....
>
> Ralph Couey
> Columbia, MO
> '95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
> "A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: TravelWeb Notice
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:17:15 -0600

For those of you who remember the Starved Rock Run, I just got a notice form
TravelWeb of "special" pricing at Wyndham hotels this week.  My guess is
that it doesn't include $54 two room suites.

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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wish list.
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:19:55 -0600

Roger, this blatant and pathetic pandering for Christmas gifts has got to
stop ;-) By the way, if this actually works and people start sending you
stuff, please ask for a Russell seat for me.

Mark G.

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To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: "Pacific Coast" <PacificCoast@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:29 AM
Subject: PC800: Wish list.


> I have compiled the wish list and here are the results.
>
>
> Battery Tender
>
> K & N air Filter
>
> Case of Mobil 1  20W-50
>
> Honda Oil filters ($67.30 case (10) from Milpitas)
>
> Body by Tupperware stickers
>
> 100% cotton Made in the USA white towels
> (Nothing but the best for wiping down the bike.)
>
> Plexus or Honda Spray or Pledge
>
> Throttle Rocker
>
> Clock
>
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CT
LG%5F007%5F012%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=63%2D959
>
> Sliks helmet protector
>
> Fog City  anti-fog for the helmet. Works great.
>
> Summer weight gloves
>
> Battery Monitor
>
> PC clothing
> http://scpcrc.org/ (Merchandise)
>
> GPS
> (Spendy, but what the heck, you never know.)
>
> www.aerostich.com
> Lots of books and movies about motorcycles.
>
> Camping gear
>
> Here's one.
> DeLorme TOPO map of the entire state.
> This is great for finding some nice roads. About $17
> http://www.DeLorme.com
>
> AeroStich catalog. Something from the kids. It's free and very good.
>
> Tire patch kit
>
> Mini jumper cables.
> (Thanks Leland.)
>
> Trunk lights
>
> For about $20.00 you can get the beaded seat cover from Whitehorse
> press - works perfectly with the pc800.
>
> Digital tire pressure gauge.
>
> Universal Vista Cruise
>
> Philips Wong stainless steel bar-end weights
>
> Small convex mirrors
>
> Helmet guardian
>
> RiderWearhouse has a flexible "headlight guard"
>
> Helmet Halo Reflector Band
>
> A first aid kit
>
> Bandana  Great for around the neck.
> Or if you are short on cash and need gas. ;-)
>
> Trunk Mats (Not sure if still available.)
>
> Glove Box
>
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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Weather Report
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:29:12 -0600

Here in St. Louis, we are under a "Winter Storm Warning" with the storm
expected about daybreak, producing 5 - 9 inches of snow by tomorrow evening.
You can't even get on a grocery store lot. I'm positive that I will spend
more time commuting tomorrow than actually working (this is not a straight
line, but I don't suppose that disclaimer will hold off the wise cracks).
The only positive thing I see is that the early snows here in Missouri have
greatly reduced the pool of stupid drivers by causing them to wreck their
vehicle earlier in the season than could normally be expected.

Mark G.

Revill Dunn wrote .....If even one little sleet droplet is spotted, this
town will be filled with crazy people driving all over everywhere picking
their kids up from school and taking them home to hide from the storm.
That's right, when the weather turns bad everyone goes out driving.  There
will be so many fender benders that the insurance adjusters will be just
passing out numbers, call you back in January......

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To: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>, "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>,
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Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:32:12 -0600

I Noel be sorry for getting involved, but I Santa reply anyway.

Mark G.

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>
> > I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....
> >
> > Ralph Couey
> > Columbia, MO
>
>
> Ralph, Yule regret starting this.
>
> Lee
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To: "PC800 Rider" <yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Who's going to the Toronto MC Show 1/5-7
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:36:35 -0600

Funny, they say the same thing about beer.

Mark G.

Barry Shaffer wrote ..... (snip) One can't live on MC Shows exclusively
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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: New Bikes
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:53:10 -0600

While dropping the front end of my PC off at St. Louis Honda this afternoon,
I talked to one of the salesmen that I see there all the time. He showed me
the new Wing that they got on the floor (a red one). I (jokingly) asked if
he had a yellow one and he offered to put me on the list for a Wing,
delivery possibly March or April. No color choice, take what they get in
when my turn comes or go to the bottom of the list. I asked if he had turned
into a Harley dealership and he didn't smile. He said the red one is not for
sale and he has already sold his December, January and February shipments.
He thought he could have sold at least a dozen more this month as Christmas
presents (does she have a sister?) This conversation took place in a
showroom literally packed with product, including an RC-51, a couple of
929s, at least 8 Valkyries and everything else Honda makes. I wonder when we
will see "Harley" pricing?

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From: BernieK469@aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:43:31 EST
Subject: PC800: Wing Prices
To: markie800@netzero.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

<< I wonder when we

will see "Harley" pricing?>>

I don't think we will.  We have a number of dealers here in KC that have 
Wings sitting in their showrooms.  One offered me $1K off of list for a red 
one.

The 2001 Wing is the first bike I have seen that could seriously be 
considered a replacemeant for the PC. (Price not being a factor)


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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>, "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 05:31:20 -0600

Yeah, I get flaky this time of year.
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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> Snowed in again, eh?
>
> Mark G.
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> To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>; "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:49 AM
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>
> >
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> > To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:23 PM
> > Subject: PC800: It's about forking time
> >
> >
> > > Well, I finally got around to removing the front wheel and forks from
my
> > PC.
> > > Bought a new ME880 last month from Bob Ronecker and some Progressive
> > springs
> > > from St. Louis Honda's close-out table.
> >
> > I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....
> >
> > Ralph Couey
> > Columbia, MO
> > '95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
> > "A life lived without risk is no life at all."
> >
> >
> >
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To: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>, "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>,
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Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 05:35:18 -0600

Hey, I don't want to be the Clause of all this punnery.
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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> I Noel be sorry for getting involved, but I Santa reply anyway.
>
> Mark G.
>
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> To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>; "markie800"
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> >
> > > I guess December in Missouri is really "spring" time....
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> > > Ralph Couey
> > > Columbia, MO
> >
> >
> > Ralph, Yule regret starting this.
> >
> > Lee
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From: "Chuck Chiodini" <chiodinc@hotmail.com>
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Subject: PC800: Response to previous posts
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:25:52 -0600

WARNING: Motorcycle topic of possible general list interest, no discussions
about politics, weather, jokes or other subjects better handled by personal
vs. "list wide" e-mails.

Fellow listers:
    Mark G. wrote: "With the axle removed, you can see a hex bolt on the
bottom of each fork leg. Any idea what this is for? "

    This hex bolt holds the inner slider tube in the outer tube and must be
removed if you are replacing seals or need to disassemble the fork for any
reason. It will also act as a drain bolt. To remove it try this trick; leave
the spring cap on to apply tension to the inner slider, insert your long hex
socket into the bolt and smack (or smite) it hard a few times with a hammer.
This will loosen up the threads and allow you to simply unscrew this hex
bolt without having to fabricate a way to hold the inner slider from
rotating (Honda special tool part # ?????). While on the subject of forks,
ever notice the small cast boss on the lower tube? Sure looks like the place
every other Honda has the fork oil drain bolt.... have toyed with the idea
of drilling/tapping this area out and installing said oil drain bolts but
decided against it since I remove the front fairing and forks when I service
them anyway . Might be a good idea for a work/time saving shortcut in the
future if you're not worried about re-torquing the pinch bolts.


    Mike Gunderson wrote: "How about spelling the word POLICE with the
correctly color coordinated reflective tape in very small letters on the
trunk?  Wouldn't that draw some attention?"

    Ann Reid (White '89 PC) uses two round blue reflectors on the front
fairing on one of her bikes as well as spelling out "PC Patrol" in
reflective tape, add a half helmet and a small stick on antena from Radio
Shack and you have folks magically pulling out of the "fast lane" to let you
on by! No problems from the local police, according to Ann, in fact, it may
have helped speed up the emergency response when she had an accident since
the original 911 call was "officer down". I have to honestly say that at
first quick glance, "PC Patrol" looks a lot like "Police". Anything to get
noticed!

    There was a thread about a year ago about the PC being "invisible" to
police radar due to frontal area and plastic. Don't believe it! My PC shows
up perfectly well on local police radar.  (and my speedometer reads 70 when
I'm doing 69 on radar). Thanks officer! Have to applaud a policy of our own
Arkansas State Troopers. When they are parked on the side of the road
running radar, they leave their headlights on for safety/visibility and to
cut down the "hidding in the bushes" complaints. Sounds fair to me!

Ride like your life depends on it!
Chuck Chiodini in Heber Springs, Arkansas
'89 PC "Scooter"


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To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>, "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>,
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Subject: PC800: punth read
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:24:58 -0800



> Hey, I don't want to be the Clause of all this punnery.
> Ralph Couey

I know in my heart and solstice not all your fault.

Lee Barker

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Subject: Re: PC800: New Bikes
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:48:47 -0500

I was in Honda Northwest the other day and mentioned the Wing they had on
the showroom and they said they were surprised it hadn't sold.

If Honda is going to try the Harley method, they all better get on the same
page. : )

Mike Whited ' 94 PC800

Columbus Ohio
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Subject: PC800: New Bikes


> While dropping the front end of my PC off at St. Louis Honda this
afternoon,
> I talked to one of the salesmen that I see there all the time. He showed
me
> the new Wing that they got on the floor (a red one). I (jokingly) asked if
> he had a yellow one and he offered to put me on the list for a Wing,
> delivery possibly March or April. No color choice, take what they get in
> when my turn comes or go to the bottom of the list. I asked if he had
turned
> into a Harley dealership and he didn't smile. He said the red one is not
for
> sale and he has already sold his December, January and February shipments.
> He thought he could have sold at least a dozen more this month as
Christmas
> presents (does she have a sister?) This conversation took place in a
> showroom literally packed with product, including an RC-51, a couple of
> 929s, at least 8 Valkyries and everything else Honda makes. I wonder when
we
> will see "Harley" pricing?
>
> Mark G.
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To: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>, "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>,
        "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: punth read
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:04:58 -0600

Hey, you know why I like to catch ice pellets on my tongue?

I have a sleet tooth........{-0
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: punth read


>
>
> > Hey, I don't want to be the Clause of all this punnery.
> > Ralph Couey
>
> I know in my heart and solstice not all your fault.
>
> Lee Barker
>
>

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        "Desmond Cockburn" <tourrider@hotmail.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:17:56 -0500

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<snip>
> legs into the shop. With the axle removed, you can see a hex bolt on the
> bottom of each fork leg. Any idea what this is for? I thought it might be
a
> drain but didn't notice any mention of it in the service manual.
<snip>

The mechanic who did my forks pointed out that bolt to me and told me that
it was a drain. Well, actually, he didn't seem to know exactly what it was
for, but said that it could be used as a drain.

Clay Leihy
Burlington, NJ
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:24:58 -0500
From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan)
To: Clay Leihy <clayl@home.com>
CC: markie800 <markie800@netzero.net>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: It's about forking time(hex bolt)



Clay Leihy wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
>
> <snip>
> > legs into the shop. With the axle removed, you can see a hex bolt on the
> > bottom of each fork leg. Any idea what this is for? I thought it might be
> a
> > drain but didn't notice any mention of it in the service manual.
> <snip>
>
> The mechanic who did my forks pointed out that bolt to me and told me that
> it was a drain. Well, actually, he didn't seem to know exactly what it was
> for, but said that it could be used as a drain.
>

Gentlemen,
I have not been following this thread, with the exception of this post.  I
apologize if someone already has answered this question.

This hex head bolt actually holds your forks together.   Unless you plan on a
complete disassembly, don't touch this bolt.  From what I hear on this list,
there is not a drain bolt on the forks.  To drain the oil, take forks out of
the "trees" , remove the cap on the top of the tube & drain that way.
Hope this helps.

Stan
98 PC  no forking name needed

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Cc: pca420@hotmail.com (Philips Wong)
Subject: Re: PC800: Handlebar weights
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:37:27 +0000

Philips,

I've received my '89 Wong Weights as well.  (I just 
discovered that I think the words as I type, and the 
word "received" in the previous sentence should start 
with a "w".  Never knew one could get tongue-tied 
without actually speaking!)

They are as lovely as the originals!  Thanks so much for 
making them while dealing with your move to Canada.  It 
was an outstanding achievement to get this done!  Thanks 
very much.

I think the fit is perfect.  I moved the throttle grip 
out when I mounted the Vista Cruise, and didn't move it 
back in as far as I should.  So the fit is a little 
tight between the weight and the throttle grip.  When I 
put the grip in the right spot, should be just right.

I need to pay you for the '89 weights.  Same price and 
mailing address as the originals?

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> I received my new "Wong Weights" with today's mail.
> Thanks a lot Philips, they are beautiful!
> 
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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
To: <BernieK469@aol.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wing Prices
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:18:25 -0600

Very interesting replies. Here in St. Louis, there are no Wings for sale
today. Twin City Honda has deposits on all their stock, St. Louis Honda is
sold out and Donelson has no inventory at any of it's three locations for
sale. Ted's in Alton had an ad in the Sunday classifieds stating "Come and
see the 2001 Gold Wings" which is true, but you needn't bring any money
since he has none to actually sell. Interesting that across the state in KC,
they have units. I know Mark at Twin City told me once that they sell 3 or 4
a year, so I expect his allocation was pretty small.

Mark G.

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Subject: PC800: Wing Prices


> << I wonder when we
>
> will see "Harley" pricing?>>
>
> I don't think we will.  We have a number of dealers here in KC that have
> Wings sitting in their showrooms.  One offered me $1K off of list for a
red
> one.
>
> The 2001 Wing is the first bike I have seen that could seriously be
> considered a replacemeant for the PC. (Price not being a factor)
>
>
> Bernie
> 94 PC
> 73K
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From: "markie800" <markie800@netzero.net>
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Subject: PC800: ATVs
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:32:55 -0600

Just wondering how many listers have an ATV? We got about 10" of snow today
and my neighbor offered me a ride on his. What a blast! Donuts in the snow,
sliding around corners, racing through the subdivision and generally acting
like a 10 year old. Great big noisy fun. Sure beat shoveling the driveway.

Mark G.

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:24:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John La <johnla@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: PC800 for sale near San Bernardino, CA
To: scpcrc List <scpcrc@listbot.com>, pclist <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: LarryPuhalsky@email.msn.com

Note:  This is not my PC.  This guy emailed me and I
thought I'd forward this to the list in case anyone is
looking for a PC.  I know nothing about this bike
other than what is written below.  Please direct
inquiries directly to:

LarryPuhalsky@email.msn.com

He does not seem to be on the list, so replying to
this email or to the list will not reach him.

John


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> From: "Larry Puhalsky" <LarryPuhalsky@email.msn.com>
> To: <johnla@yahoo.com>
> Subject: For Sale
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:07:34 -0800
> 
> Excuse me for taking this liberty, but I didn't know
> how else to do it. My PC800 in on consignment at
> Highland Cycle in Highland, Ca (Close to San Bdno)
> 95 Model, Pristeen condition, SRr. owned, lots of
> extras. 24K Mi. Progressive Suspension, Honda High
> Windshield, Pulsating Brake lites and Headlite Hi
> beam, Custom seat, Rear Spoiler(cool), pin striping,
> Gold highlite trim, K&N air filter, just serviced.
> Price is $5000 and worth it for it's condition.
> Includes shop manual and original tool kit and
> manual. Highland cycle (909)-862-8546. My home
> phone. (909) 654-8929
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:29:28 -0800 (PST)
From: vanDamme Claude <plecter@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: MapSource GPSmaps for sale:
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I have all MapSource for Garmin GPS for sale:

1.USA Roads & Recreation + Canada Metroguide w/R&R 

2.USA Metroguide (East and West)

3.USA Topo (West, East and Alaska+Hawaii)



4.European Metroguides CD rom,
(That is Austria,Belgium,The
Netherlands,Luxembourg,France,
Germany,Italy,Spain,Sweden,Denmark,Switzerland and
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5.European Road & Recreations CD rom 
(as in Metroguide,less Sweden/Denmark but including
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Price US$ 100 pr CD Rom 



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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:21:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Selden Deemer <libssd@emory.edu>
To: PC 800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: It's about forking time 

"markie800" <markie800@netzero.net> writes:

> ...With the axle removed, you can see a hex bolt on the bottom of 
> each fork leg. Any idea what this is for? I thought it might be a
> drain but didn't notice any mention of it in the service manual.

The hex bolt at the bottom of each fork slider holds the damper tube
in place. This is a tube with several holes in it that controls
compression damping.

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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:32:06 -0500
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Subject: PC800: Nat'l Agenda for MC Safety


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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:17:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: ATVs
To: markie800 <markie800@netzero.net>, PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

I have a 2.5 ton ATV, does that count?  

:-)

The morning commute is very much like what you
described.  

cmc

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> Just wondering how many listers have an ATV? We got
> about 10" of snow today
> and my neighbor offered me a ride on his. What a
> blast! Donuts in the snow,
> sliding around corners, racing through the
> subdivision and generally acting
> like a 10 year old. Great big noisy fun. Sure beat
> shoveling the driveway.
> 
> Mark G.
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Subject: RE: PC800: ATVs
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:52:51 +0100

I have a TV... no snow though... : )

E-mile
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> To: 	markie800; PC800 List
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> 
> I have a 2.5 ton ATV, does that count?  
> 
> :-)
> 
> The morning commute is very much like what you
> described.  
> 
> cmc
> 
> --- markie800 <markie800@netzero.net> wrote:
> > Just wondering how many listers have an ATV? We got
> > about 10" of snow today
> > and my neighbor offered me a ride on his. What a
> > blast! Donuts in the snow,
> > sliding around corners, racing through the
> > subdivision and generally acting
> > like a 10 year old. Great big noisy fun. Sure beat
> > shoveling the driveway.
> > 
> > Mark G.
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From: "Philips Wong" <pca420@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: looking for parts
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:15:20 

Sorry guys,

The parts I'm looking for is not PC related.  I need a set of carbs.
which is for '77 CB550 Four.  Please point me to the direction if
you happened to came across with that.

Thanks in advance,

- Philips


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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: "'Ralph Couey '" <pcstarship@home.com>, "'Great Ned '" <greatned@quik.com>,
        "'markie800 '" <markie800@netzero.net>,
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Subject: RE: PC800: Re: punth read
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:42:13 -0500

I find this "pun thread" most disturbing and disturbed. Please keep it
going!

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From: Ralph Couey
To: Great Ned; markie800; PC800 List
Sent: 12/13/00 7:04 PM
Subject: PC800: Re: punth read

Hey, you know why I like to catch ice pellets on my tongue?

I have a sleet tooth........{-0
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>; "markie800"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: punth read


>
>
> > Hey, I don't want to be the Clause of all this punnery.
> > Ralph Couey
>
> I know in my heart and solstice not all your fault.
>
> Lee Barker
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Corbin Discount Saddles
To: PC800 LIST <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Hey gang,

This falls into the “It doesn’t hurt to ask...”

Short story – I need a day or so more to find out
final prices for discount Corbin saddles for the
PC800. 

Long Story...

I've looking for a year at Corbin seats and yesterday,
I was looking around on Google to see if I could score
a Corbin seat at a discount. I know, I've heard that’s
impossible to do…  but I found a site 
www.mashonline.com. They offered a discount on
Corbins, but no details (it's a sparse web site) Now,
I don’t know these folks, but the guy I’m dealing with
seems friendly enough.

So, I sent out an email and this is what I got back...


“Hi Christoffer, Nice Bike! On a $499 Corbin seat I
can take $40 off plus give you shipping for free.
That's a total savings of about $55. That is a special
order seat so it will take 2-3 weeks to get it to you.
Free Shipping within the continental U.S. Include this
E-mail with order This quote valid for 30 days Best
Regards, Jay Scholz Sales/Webmaster MASHonline
http://www.MASHonline.com “


Then I thought about posting this response tothe list
and calling it quits.. – but heck, let’s go for broke!
– I emailed him back and mentioned the list and
Emile’s webpage and *could we have even more off* if
we ordered together (but separately) and mentioned the
list and then got a reply back an hour later...


“Hi Christoffer, That would be great! I need to have
you hold off for a day though. I'm not sure what my
best dealer price is so I don't want to risk losing
money on more than one. I should be hearing back from
Corbin today. Normally I buy my Corbin seats through a
distributor but they don't carry the Pacific Coast
seats (and a few other I like) so I'm in the process
of becoming a factory direct dealer. I should be able
to work out something for your list to get you all a
great price. Thanks, Jay “

If you're thinking about getting a saddle, we have two
fav's on the list:
check out Russell  http://www.day-long.com/index.htm  

and Corbin at http://www.corbin.com/ 

If you look in the archives, you'll find opinions
either good or bad for stock, Russell, and Corbin.

So have a seat for a bit and I guess I’ll be the
butt-end of jokes for a while.

:-)





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From: Ahall77379@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:05:16 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Re: punth read
To: sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

In a message dated 12/14/00 1:43:51 PM Central Standard Time, 
sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us writes:

> I find this "pun thread" most disturbing and disturbed. Please keep it
>  going!


Noel way!

Alan in Houston

89' PC
Rifle +2                         AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control
Utopia backrest             Hitch Doc
GenMar risers               Cycle-Mate trailer
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:04:32 -0500
To: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
From: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven)
Subject: PC800: Corbin Discount Saddles Ripoff
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

My Corbin was only $400 from Corbin direct plus $25 for shipping to NY
No extra charge for colors or welts.
Only trouble...I had to send it back for workmanship problems and that was
a month ago! Still waiting! I'm told it will ship back on the 18th.

DS

>
>=ECHi Christoffer, Nice Bike! On a $499 Corbin seat I
>can take $40 off plus give you shipping for free.
>That's a total savings of about $55. That is a special
>order seat so it will take 2-3 weeks to get it to you.
>Free Shipping within the continental U.S. Include this
>E-mail with order This quote valid for 30 days Best
>Regards, Jay Scholz Sales/Webmaster MASHonline
>http://www.MASHonline.com =EC


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From: "Randy Ashurst" <ashurst@thebest.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Bar End Weights
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:59 -0500

Hi List,  This is to notify Joyce Calvert that I shipped her Stainless Bar
Endweights off UPS today.  Surface rate and insured.

If Joyce is on the list and wants the trakcing number just email me back
ashurst@thebest.net.

Regards  Randy Ashurst in south GA.  BTW my 89 model weights are here today
and I'm gonna open the box right now.
Yeow.

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From: ccaronna@swbell.net
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 Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:22:42 -0600 (CST)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:19:38 -0600
Subject: PC800: Clearview Windshield
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
 Netscape6/6.0

    I called Clearview to get a price on a windshield and found out they 
are on sale.  Thought someone else out there may be in the same boat as 
I, and could use the 15% discount they are running until the end of the 
month. 

They also called me back, sent me an email with photos of  PCs with the 
windshield installed, and answered at least a dozen or so questions 
before I ordered.  They also said I could try it (with the protective 
coating on) and send it back for a different size if I wanted too.   
They were very customer friendly and I thought I would pass that on.  
Then number is 800-798-6089.  I ordered the 3" and also 4.5 feet of  
stealth edging.  I think I needed the 5" but thought it may ruin the 
appearance of the bike.  I hope the 3" and edging will be enough.  I 
think the edging dresses up the windshield as well as being functional.

I'll report back to anyone who is interested on how it works out after I 
get everything installed the week after X-Mass..

Chris,
Owner of Red Wonder  (1998 PC800)

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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: <ccaronna@swbell.net>
Cc: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:44:50 -0500

They had a batch scheduled to be molded the day after I ordered mine. Must
have some extras, eh?
-eddie

I paid $150, which included shipping, for my +3" shield.

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Date: 14 Dec 00 16:19:35 PST
From: David Orlich <DavidOrlich@netscape.net>
To: PC800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        Ben Crisologo <bcrisologo@hotmail.com>,
        Jeff Hamilton <JeffHamltn@aol.com>, Steve Raml <raml@bus.usc.edu>
Subject: PC800: A PC800 at last!

Well, an hour ago I finally kicked out my hard-earned cash and bought a 1=
995
PC800.  Tomorrow I pick up my Pacific Coast and my long-suffering 1984 Go=
ld
Wing goes into retirement!

I got it for $4200 at L.A Honda in Inglewood, CA. with just under 12,000 =
miles
on it.  It rides as good as any PC800 I've ever ridden (I've test-ridden =
two)
and I look forward to a long sweet relationship with her.

Hmmm...what to name her?  The GL1200 is named Evil Wing, but my two bikes=

before that were named StormRider I and II.  I guess for now it will be S=
torm
III...until she makes her personality known.

Jeff, Steve, Ben...thanks for showing off your bikes and letting me see..=
=2Ethat
BLACK PC'S RULE!  If anyone is in the market for a really nice 1996 PC800=
 I
know of a good one...but I just couldn't take that plain red paint job.

P.S.  I'm not on the mailing list anymore (to spare my poor e-mail accoun=
t). =

If you want to reply, please email me at davidorlich@netscape.net...plus =
I'll
check the mail list archive regularly.

I'll keep in touch!

David Orlich & Judy Herring


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From: tteulon@ies.net (Todd Teulon)
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: "'eddie'" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: PC800: Clearview Windshield
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:36:27 -0600
Importance: Normal

Hey Eddie, when did you place your order? I placed an order for a +3"
towards the end of November and was told that I should receive it by the
15th. Did Craig mention when you should receive yours? I am assuming that it
was for the same batch. By the way, I can't remember what the final quote
was, however, he did give me an additional discount as a member of the AMA.
(Membership sas paid for itself numerous times over)

For those that may be interested, I tried the Stealth Edging previously and
found that it wasn't worth the forty some odd dollars that they charge for
it and I also found it detracted from the looks of the bike substantially. I
guess it is personal taste. One thing I can say for Saeng is that they
cheerfully refunded my money when asked. (Sent a refund check within 10
days)

I am looking forward to the new sheild, the wind noise on the stock sheild
has almost deafened me. (Just ask my wife)

Todd Teulon
97 PC-800
South Texas "Zeniac"



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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:45 PM
To: ccaronna@swbell.net
Cc: PC800 List
Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield


They had a batch scheduled to be molded the day after I ordered mine. Must
have some extras, eh?
-eddie

I paid $150, which included shipping, for my +3" shield.

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From: "Steve Wilson" <stevew@tcainternet.com>
To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu \(E-mail\)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:46:51 -0600

For you guys that have given up on the Stealth edging, if you can get
your hands on a piece about 12-14 inches long and install it at the top
of the shield, you may like it. It works for me. I found that a long
strip that ran all the way around held the air that would have rolled
off the sides of the shield and forced it to go over the top which made
the noise even worse. With just a strip across the top, it only softens
the air that comes over the top and helps a lot. Of course, when you cut
a 12" chunck off the end of the long piece, it is kinda hard to put it
back on to return for a refund. :-)
Steve Wilson     Ruston LA.


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From: "Todd Teulon" <tteulon@ies.net>
>
> For those that may be interested, I tried the Stealth Edging
previously and
> found that it wasn't worth the forty some odd dollars that they charge
for
> it and I also found it detracted from the looks of the bike
substantially. I
> guess it is personal taste. One thing I can say for Saeng is that they
> cheerfully refunded my money when asked. (Sent a refund check within
10
> days)


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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Bar End Weights--Why? 
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:24:35 -0500

Maybe I missed the explanation. But why do we want bar-end weights? Are they
part of the "autolean" system? Are there "Winter" and "Summer" weights? Does
the color matter? Thanks.

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From: Randy Ashurst [mailto:ashurst@thebest.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:39 PM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Bar End Weights


Hi List,  This is to notify Joyce Calvert that I shipped her Stainless Bar
Endweights off UPS today.  Surface rate and insured.

If Joyce is on the list and wants the trakcing number just email me back
ashurst@thebest.net.

Regards  Randy Ashurst in south GA.  BTW my 89 model weights are here today
and I'm gonna open the box right now.
Yeow.

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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:29:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Henry Tay <htay_pc800@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I placed my order with Sport-Touring for a +5 late Nov
and got it about 2 weeks.  (I'm residing in Hong Kong
now.)

With little delay, I installed the new windshield.  For
far, I'm very happy with the look of my '94 PC.  Well,
it's personal taste that I think the tall shield is
cool too.  Perhaps, shorter shield makes the PC look
more sporty! 

I can tell you, my sound system on my PC sound much
better with the +5.  Wind noise is reduced
tremendously. Being 6-foot tall myself, I just look
over the tip of my +5 if I really sit upright. 
Usually, I see through the shield.  It took me a couple
of days to get used to especially at night.  I'll have
to try for raining days too.

I still wish I could put more bass on my
stereo/speakers though.  I suppose there is little one
can do with just 2 4" speakers.

Cheers,
Henry

--- ccaronna@swbell.net wrote:
>     I called Clearview to get a price on a windshield
> and found out they 
> are on sale.  Thought someone else out there may be
> in the same boat as 
> I, and could use the 15% discount they are running
> until the end of the 
> month. 
> 
> They also called me back, sent me an email with
> photos of  PCs with the 
> windshield installed, and answered at least a dozen
> or so questions 
> before I ordered.  They also said I could try it
> (with the protective 
> coating on) and send it back for a different size if
> I wanted too.   
> They were very customer friendly and I thought I
> would pass that on.  
> Then number is 800-798-6089.  I ordered the 3" and
> also 4.5 feet of  
> stealth edging.  I think I needed the 5" but thought
> it may ruin the 
> appearance of the bike.  I hope the 3" and edging
> will be enough.  I 
> think the edging dresses up the windshield as well as
> being functional.
> 
> I'll report back to anyone who is interested on how
> it works out after I 
> get everything installed the week after X-Mass..
> 
> Chris,
> Owner of Red Wonder  (1998 PC800)
> 
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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:42:53 -0500 (EST)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:42:52 EST
Subject: PC800: Dallas motorcycle show
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I have not heard it mentioned the last several days....How many of you are 
going to the Dallas Show? 
Right now my game plan is to leave San Antonio about mid morning tomorrow for 
a mid afternoon arrival in Irving. I have a reservation at the Motel 6 there. 
Most likely, I will go to the show Saturday morning for a few hours (whatever 
it takes to see it) and head back to San Antonio Saturday afternoon. 
As of right this moment I have not decided whether or not to take the bike. 
The weather appears to be breaking, and I may. I love this state. Cold snaps 
just don't last, and when it comes to cold I am a total wimp.
I will check my mail just before I leave tomorrow. Hope to see a few of you 
there...... 

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:16:48 -0800 (PST)
From: victoria sheets <ladyhawke369@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Bar end weights
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu


Just my two cents worth on bar end weights....On the
throttle end I added two small washers inside the
handle bar to space it out a little....Into this space
I added layer after layer of rubber bands which act as
a cruise control...the more rubber bands the stiffer
the grip...you can still turn the throttle
easily...this allows me to switch hands on long
interstate runs...this makes a big difference...Use
your allen wrench to remove the bar weight and the
rubber bands come off in your hand for reuse
later...this works for me....

Charley Sheets
Olive Branch, Ms.
'95PC800   "Hakuna Matata"

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Subject: RE: PC800: Re: punth read
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:43:58 +0000

You LIKE these puns?  Snow two ways about it, Ice 
getting tired of them.  Good thing there's no charge for 
list membership...freeze about all I would pay for some 
of these messages!

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'89 PC800			
			

			
			
			
> I find this "pun thread" most disturbing and disturbed. Please keep it
> going!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Couey
> To: Great Ned; markie800; PC800 List
> Sent: 12/13/00 7:04 PM
> Subject: PC800: Re: punth read
> 
> Hey, you know why I like to catch ice pellets on my tongue?
> 
> I have a sleet tooth........{-0
> Ralph Couey
> Columbia, MO
> '95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
> "A life lived without risk is no life at all."
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
> To: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>; "markie800"
> <markie800@netzero.net>; "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:24 AM
> Subject: punth read
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > Hey, I don't want to be the Clause of all this punnery.
> > > Ralph Couey
> >
> > I know in my heart and solstice not all your fault.
> >
> > Lee Barker
> >
> >
> 
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Subject: RE: PC800: Bar End Weights--Why? 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:56:28 +0000

Saul,

As is often the case on this list, your message is 
likely to elicit both serious and light-hearted 
responses.  I will attempt both in one message.

Philips Wong, of Wong Wing fame, recently had a 
craftsman in mainland China make up a batch of beautiful 
stainless steel weights to replace the stock weights, 
which have a habit of losing their finish.  Options for 
refinishing the stock weights are evidently limited by 
the melting point of the inner material (lead?), which 
precludes powdercoating.  Actually, Philips had a second 
batch made up, when we discovered that the weights and 
bar ends are different on the '89 PC's.

As to the hidden purpose of the weights, someone (L7ee 
Barker?) alleged recently that they are the "outboard 
sensors" for the AutoLean system.  If so, Philips must 
have had the replacement weights equipped with the 
necessary componentry, as no one has reported AutoLean 
discombobulation since installing the Wong Weights.

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Steve Ewens
Lee's Summit, MO
iPCRC #1044
'89 PC800			
			

			
			
			
> Maybe I missed the explanation. But why do we want bar-end weights? Are they
> part of the "autolean" system? Are there "Winter" and "Summer" weights? Does
> the color matter? Thanks.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Ashurst [mailto:ashurst@thebest.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:39 PM
> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
> Subject: PC800: Bar End Weights
> 
> 
> Hi List,  This is to notify Joyce Calvert that I shipped her Stainless Bar
> Endweights off UPS today.  Surface rate and insured.
> 
> If Joyce is on the list and wants the trakcing number just email me back
> ashurst@thebest.net.
> 
> Regards  Randy Ashurst in south GA.  BTW my 89 model weights are here today
> and I'm gonna open the box right now.
> Yeow.
> 
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Subject: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 04:19:22 +0000

Greetings, all...

I have a theory as to one possible cause of the behavior 
we attribute to the "AutoLean" system.  I have noticed 
numerous times when riding at slow speeds in strong 
crosswinds that the wind can steer the PC downwind.  
When this happens the front wheel is actually turned; 
not just the bike being blown to the side.  This is most 
apparent when riding at 5-10 mph; for example, during 
rush-hour gridlock.

If the same effect occurs at higher speeds, as seems 
reasonable, that would be analogous to counter-
steering.  This is the practice of turning at highway 
speeds by applying pressure on the bars opposite to the 
direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the 
left to turn right, for example.)  Counter-steering 
makes use of the phenomenon of precession, by which the 
force on the bars causes the bike to lean in the desired 
direction.

The most obvious cause of this behavior seems to be the 
plastic down low on the fork assembly.  I wonder if you 
owners of late model PC's, without rotor covers, have 
observed AutoLean behavior to the same degree as the 
rest of us?  Or do you just wonder what we're raving 
about?

Any opinions?  (Hah, THAT'S a stupid question!)

--
Steve Ewens
Lee's Summit, MO
iPCRC #1044
'89 PC800			
			

			
			
			
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <sge2000@att.net>, "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:06:50 -0800

Steve:

a:  Push right, go right.

b:  My 95, color unnoted, has an ST1100 front fender (see the ipcrc site)
and I can autolean with the best tangoers on the dance floor.  I think.  My
calibrated elbow has not been state certified since I separated (but never
divorced) the shoulder.

L7ee
95 "Secondo con Brio"


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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:19 PM
Subject: PC800: AutoLean theory


> Greetings, all...
>
> I have a theory as to one possible cause of the behavior
> we attribute to the "AutoLean" system.  I have noticed
> numerous times when riding at slow speeds in strong
> crosswinds that the wind can steer the PC downwind.
> When this happens the front wheel is actually turned;
> not just the bike being blown to the side.  This is most
> apparent when riding at 5-10 mph; for example, during
> rush-hour gridlock.
>
> If the same effect occurs at higher speeds, as seems
> reasonable, that would be analogous to counter-
> steering.  This is the practice of turning at highway
> speeds by applying pressure on the bars opposite to the
> direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the
> left to turn right, for example.)  Counter-steering
> makes use of the phenomenon of precession, by which the
> force on the bars causes the bike to lean in the desired
> direction.
>
> The most obvious cause of this behavior seems to be the
> plastic down low on the fork assembly.  I wonder if you
> owners of late model PC's, without rotor covers, have
> observed AutoLean behavior to the same degree as the
> rest of us?  Or do you just wonder what we're raving
> about?
>
> Any opinions?  (Hah, THAT'S a stupid question!)
>
> --
> Steve Ewens
> Lee's Summit, MO
> iPCRC #1044
> '89 PC800
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Paul Atkins" <patkins@new.rr.com>
To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: battery charger via quick connect system
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:12:09 -0600



Hello All,=20
Paul from Green Bay here. I've unsubscribed to the list for while, could =
not keep up with the mail, but wondering if anyone can help me.
I have an electrical hook up for my unobtanium electric vest that runs =
from the battery under the seat to the gas filler box. When I run my =
vest, I just open the door, and plug it in.

I'd like to connect a battery tender to the battery via the same cords. =
I have a "quick connect" system. Can I get a quick connect set up to =
connect the charger w/out accessing the battery?
thanks in advance and please respond to me at
patkins@new.rr.com

Thanks
Paul
96 PC

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via the same cords. I have a "quick connect" system. Can I get a quick =
connect=20
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From: "Coverts" <coverts@olympus.net>
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Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:38:50 -0800

Steve,

Thought that would be counter counter steering.  Anyway be sure to you use
counter intuitive thinking before engaging the vortex converter.  That
should mitigate any effect of lower wheel shroud.

Rick

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Subject: PC800: AutoLean theory


>
> If the same effect occurs at higher speeds, as seems
> reasonable, that would be analogous to counter-
> steering.  This is the practice of turning at highway
> speeds by applying pressure on the bars opposite to the
> direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the
> left to turn right, for example.)  Counter-steering
> makes use of the phenomenon of precession, by which the
> force on the bars causes the bike to lean in the desired
> direction.


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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Connector
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:50:12 -0500

Paul/List,

Here's a view of the connector I purchased at Radio Shack to use with a
radio and a battery charger.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=147089&a=1449069&p=35502915

-eddie

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From: "Russ Goff" <tech@f-goff.co.uk>
To: "PC800 LIST SERVER" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Fw: PC800: It's about forking time
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:59:55 -0000

> > The mechanic who did my forks pointed out that bolt to me and told me
that
> > it was a drain. Well, actually, he didn't seem to know exactly what it
was
> > for, but said that it could be used as a drain.
> >
> > Clay Leihy

 Mechanic? what did he train on? Bulldozers?
 This bolt hold the spring damping mechanism to the rest of the fork. Undo
 that and your forks can fall to pieces. Also when it is undone the captive
 piece on the inside can go walkabout as it were and you might not get it
 back to screw the bolt back into it without a complete strip down.
 As a note, that bolt is normally FT. (flipping tight) and can be a bas####
 to get undone.
 Cheers
 Russ
 fully trained and certified MOTORCYCLE mechanic.



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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:48:41 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
To: sge2000@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I doubt the rotor shroud makes a heck of a lot of difference. I have a 98 
with small fender. 
PS  I think I am going to bundle up, being the wimp I am, bite the bullet and 
head on out to Dallas on the Scoot. Hope to see a few more PC's in 
Dallas......

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:57:49 +0000

I KNEW I shouldn't try to write stuff like this at a 
time that should be past my bedtime!  (And if you check 
my original message, yes, it was sent at 10:21 PM, and 
that SHOULD be past my bedtime...I am on one of those 
early-to-bed-early-to-rise schedules, on those rare 
occasions when I am not misbehaving.)

What I was trying to say was:  apply force to the bars 
as if trying to turn the front wheel to the left, and 
the bike will lean and turn to the right.  So those of 
you who have pointed out that one pushes forward on the 
left bar in order to turn left are correct, and found a 
clearer way to say it than did I.

If anyone on this list is unfamiliar with 
countersteering, I suggest that you read more about it 
than my poorly written message before exploring the 
technique!

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Lee's Summit, MO
iPCRC #1044
'89 PC800			
			

			
			
			
> In a message dated 12/14/00 10:21:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
> sge2000@att.net writes:
> 
> > applying pressure on the bars opposite to the 
> >  direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the 
> >  left to turn right, for example.) 
>  
> Steve,
> You actually have this reversed. If you want to turn left, push slightly on 
> the left bar. Kind of like doing a power slide on a dirt bike in a very 
> subtle sort of way.
> 
> Alan in Houston
> 
> 89' PC
> Rifle +2                         AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control
> Utopia backrest             Hitch Doc
> GenMar risers               Cycle-Mate trailer
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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:07:20 -0500

Did I misunderstand, or wasn't there an aspect of Autolean such that it
works better with a black bike, having to do with light absorption and heat
dissipation factors? Or maybe it's the color of the Autloean fluid that
makes the difference?

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From: Great Ned [mailto:greatned@quik.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:07 AM
To: sge2000@att.net; PC800 List
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory


Steve:

a:  Push right, go right.

b:  My 95, color unnoted, has an ST1100 front fender (see the ipcrc site)
and I can autolean with the best tangoers on the dance floor.  I think.  My
calibrated elbow has not been state certified since I separated (but never
divorced) the shoulder.

L7ee
95 "Secondo con Brio"


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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:19 PM
Subject: PC800: AutoLean theory


> Greetings, all...
>
> I have a theory as to one possible cause of the behavior
> we attribute to the "AutoLean" system.  I have noticed
> numerous times when riding at slow speeds in strong
> crosswinds that the wind can steer the PC downwind.
> When this happens the front wheel is actually turned;
> not just the bike being blown to the side.  This is most
> apparent when riding at 5-10 mph; for example, during
> rush-hour gridlock.
>
> If the same effect occurs at higher speeds, as seems
> reasonable, that would be analogous to counter-
> steering.  This is the practice of turning at highway
> speeds by applying pressure on the bars opposite to the
> direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the
> left to turn right, for example.)  Counter-steering
> makes use of the phenomenon of precession, by which the
> force on the bars causes the bike to lean in the desired
> direction.
>
> The most obvious cause of this behavior seems to be the
> plastic down low on the fork assembly.  I wonder if you
> owners of late model PC's, without rotor covers, have
> observed AutoLean behavior to the same degree as the
> rest of us?  Or do you just wonder what we're raving
> about?
>
> Any opinions?  (Hah, THAT'S a stupid question!)
>
> --
> Steve Ewens
> Lee's Summit, MO
> iPCRC #1044
> '89 PC800
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:08:43 -0500

Hey with the big wurdz! Are you trying to subliminably telepath some
sinister message?

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:39 AM
To: PC800 List
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory


Steve,

Thought that would be counter counter steering.  Anyway be sure to you use
counter intuitive thinking before engaging the vortex converter.  That
should mitigate any effect of lower wheel shroud.

Rick

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Subject: PC800: AutoLean theory


>
> If the same effect occurs at higher speeds, as seems
> reasonable, that would be analogous to counter-
> steering.  This is the practice of turning at highway
> speeds by applying pressure on the bars opposite to the
> direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the
> left to turn right, for example.)  Counter-steering
> makes use of the phenomenon of precession, by which the
> force on the bars causes the bike to lean in the desired
> direction.


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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Anticipatory Inquiry
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:20:22 -0500

I will shortly be away from my E-mail for a spell. I don't want to miss a
SINGLE posting, from light-hearted to heavy-duty. BUT, if I leave my name on
the list, I could very well overwhelm the server that holds my messages
until I handle them, this being an active group and all. OTOH, if I
unsubscribe, I'll miss the further exploration of Autolean nuances, color
threads, puns, and THE NEW GOLD WINGS. And, of course, upcoming trips,
mechanical insights, and other mundanities. 

Duz anyone have any suggestions as to how I can both spare the server AND
not miss a single moment? Would ALL of the postings be stored in the
archives? Thanks. And if I don't "see" you until then, I hope all your
Winters are wonderful.

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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>, "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:26:46 -0800


> Hey with the big wurdz! Are you trying to subliminably telepath some
> sinister message?
>

My sinister, the Reverend Cathy Barker, lives in Seattle and I email her
directly.

Lee

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:24:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Christoffer Carstanjen <captaintupperware@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Re: Corbin Discount Saddles Ripoff
To: Dave Steven <steven@capital.net>
Cc: PC800 LIST <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


Dave,


Corbin upped the price $100 in the last two months...
http://www.corbin.com/honda/pch.html

:-(

cmc



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> My Corbin was only $400 from Corbin direct plus $25
> for shipping to NY
> No extra charge for colors or welts.
> Only trouble...I had to send it back for workmanship
> problems and that was
> a month ago! Still waiting! I'm told it will ship
> back on the 18th.
> 
> DS
> 
> >
> >ìHi Christoffer, Nice Bike! On a $499 Corbin seat I
> >can take $40 off plus give you shipping for free.
> >That's a total savings of about $55. That is a
> special
> >order seat so it will take 2-3 weeks to get it to
> you.
> >Free Shipping within the continental U.S. Include
> this
> >E-mail with order This quote valid for 30 days Best
> >Regards, Jay Scholz Sales/Webmaster MASHonline
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> 
> 


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Piloot.com>
To: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>, "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Anticipatory Inquiry
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:36:00 +0100
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>Goldberg, Saul
>Duz anyone have any suggestions as to how I can 
>both spare the server AND not miss a single moment?

Yes, just remember www.ipcrc.org (internet PC Riders Club)

On there you see a link to the archive of the digest
version of this list. That archive serves like
a web-based version of this list as well:
http://www.egroups.com/messages/pc800digest
That way you can pick up on your reading while
being unsubscribed.

Alternatively you could subscribe to the digest
version temporarily, but in kb size that will not
make a difference to the server.
Of course there is the original archive as well
(link also on www.ipcrc.org ), but the digest
archive (although you could receive from that
one as seperate messages also) is easier to work
with I think and is definitely more up to date,
it doesn't lag behind any messages as does the
original archive.

Autolean explanation coming up in a minute  : )

Emile
www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club


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From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
Goldberg, Saul
Sent: vrijdag 15 december 2000 15:20
To: PC800 List
Subject: PC800: Anticipatory Inquiry


I will shortly be away from my E-mail for a spell. I don't want to miss a
SINGLE posting, from light-hearted to heavy-duty. BUT, if I leave my name on
the list, I could very well overwhelm the server that holds my messages
until I handle them, this being an active group and all. OTOH, if I
unsubscribe, I'll miss the further exploration of Autolean nuances, color
threads, puns, and THE NEW GOLD WINGS. And, of course, upcoming trips,
mechanical insights, and other mundanities. 

Duz anyone have any suggestions as to how I can both spare the server AND
not miss a single moment? Would ALL of the postings be stored in the
archives? Thanks. And if I don't "see" you until then, I hope all your
Winters are wonderful.

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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:39:04 -0600
        "PC800: AutoLean theory" (Dec 15,  4:19am)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List)
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory

All levity aside, Autolean (tm) is simply the reaction of a two wheeled
autogyroscopically stabilized vehicle to crosswinds.  The PC exhibits it more
than many other bikes, primarily I think because it is so aerodynamically
clean. Naked bikes have a much more confused airflow, that (my theory here)
don't get nearly as much even pressure on one side or the other.  Since the
gyros (wheels) really want to stand up "straight", an even pressure causes the
bike to lean into the wind.  A confused turbulence won't set up as much of a
high pressure - low pressure differential that makes the bike lean, it just
knocks you around.

Back before even I started riding, racing motorcycles used "dustbin" farings.
 These enclosed the front wheel in a big aerodynamic bubble that was much
faster than modern farings with the front wheel exposed.  They were banned
because of their crosswind instability.

I think that the PC's enclosed front wheel does act somewhat like a dustbin
faring.  It smooths the airflow, improving mileage and lowering wind noise but
contributes to crosswind instability, or autolean.

Revill
Rider of Whirby
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@ST1100.net>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:45:21 +0100
Importance: Normal

We've discussed and I think solved the autolean
principle last century on this list. The ST has
autolean and so do other bikes. 

Explanation:
After some brainstorming we concluded that the
force of the crosswind on the side of the bike
moves the part in between the wheels downwind.. 
due to the trail of the frontwheel the frontwheel
will be rotated so that the front part of the wheel
points downwind also which will create a centrifugal
force for the bike direction upwind aided (for 9%)
by the gyroscopic precession of the frontwheel 
(caused by the moment exerted on the frontwheel
because of the trail)that will want to rotate the top
part of the bike upwind. 
So the more side fairing there is on a bike, the
more sidedrifting it will want to do but also the
more it will want to automatically stabilize this.

Conclusion:
if you are afraid of strong crosswinds and will
hang on to the bars very strongly you will not
allow the bike to stabilize itself with it's
autolean to counter the sidedrift. Sit relaxed,
let the bike do it's thing, helping it out where
you can (as it seems to react more stable but also
slower with speed). So a bike with a big fairing
does catch more wind but also wants to autolean
more to counter this. For me this is fun, for a 
lot of others all this moving can be disturbing
and scarey. The PC is probably very good in autolean
because of it's big side surface but also because
of it's low CG and agile steering geometry.

Any corrections or tips are welcome here since
it's mainly a theory, backed up with just a couple
of personal observations.

Emile
'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse"
www.piloot.com
www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club


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sge2000@att.net
Sent: vrijdag 15 december 2000 14:58
To: PC800 List
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory


I KNEW I shouldn't try to write stuff like this at a 
time that should be past my bedtime!  (And if you check 
my original message, yes, it was sent at 10:21 PM, and 
that SHOULD be past my bedtime...I am on one of those 
early-to-bed-early-to-rise schedules, on those rare 
occasions when I am not misbehaving.)

What I was trying to say was:  apply force to the bars 
as if trying to turn the front wheel to the left, and 
the bike will lean and turn to the right.  So those of 
you who have pointed out that one pushes forward on the 
left bar in order to turn left are correct, and found a 
clearer way to say it than did I.

If anyone on this list is unfamiliar with 
countersteering, I suggest that you read more about it 
than my poorly written message before exploring the 
technique!

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Lee's Summit, MO
iPCRC #1044
'89 PC800			
			

			
			
			
> In a message dated 12/14/00 10:21:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
> sge2000@att.net writes:
> 
> > applying pressure on the bars opposite to the 
> >  direction one wishes to turn.  (Push slightly to the 
> >  left to turn right, for example.) 
>  
> Steve,
> You actually have this reversed. If you want to turn left, push slightly on 
> the left bar. Kind of like doing a power slide on a dirt bike in a very 
> subtle sort of way.
> 
> Alan in Houston
> 
> 89' PC
> Rifle +2                         AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control
> Utopia backrest             Hitch Doc
> GenMar risers               Cycle-Mate trailer
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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:46:46 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Rattles n squeaks

The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.

I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
fact, it seems worse.

Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?

Revill
Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:55:21 -0800 (PST)
From: "J. A. Kopp" <JAKopp@excite.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Honda Reflex
X-Sender-Ip: 38.28.68.166

I'm surprised the topic of Honda's new scooter, the Reflex, hasn't been
discussed much on this list. Since our bike has at least a superficial
resemblance to a scooter, or a scooter/goldwing cross as some say, I would
think Honda's Reflex would be of some interest. But maybe I'm reading the
demographic wrong.

Before buying my '95 Coaster I looked at scooters but found the old Helix to
be quite unattractive and there wasn't much else in the "big" scooter
market. The Reflex has changed all that. It's big, attractive, relatively
practical, and highly capable of either zipping around urban downtown or
down the freeway. I saw a red model at the Seattle Motorcycle show and
immediately knew that if I hadn't been able to find a good used PC like I
did, the Reflex would be my ride. Of course, the PC is even bigger, more
practical and even more highly capable, and can be had for a fraction of the
Reflex's $5,799 (I think) price tag. But you already knew that.

Cheers,

Joel

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From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:19:25 -0600

"Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?"

Gotta BURP the Tupperware with the special Left Handed Hypersonic Autolean
Adjustment tool!  Don't forget to add a little Autolean fuel additive to the
gas tank too!

*<[]8-)~

Hopelessly lost under a foot of SNOW in Illinois,

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:25:33 -0500

Glad to know I am not the only one with the "mouse in the woodwork." The
only one I've found so far is on the left glove box. I plan to stick on some
small rubber gaskets between the offending parts. Either that or the BIG
hammer. (Beat to fit, and paint to match, etc.)

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:19 PM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Rattles n squeaks


"Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?"

Gotta BURP the Tupperware with the special Left Handed Hypersonic Autolean
Adjustment tool!  Don't forget to add a little Autolean fuel additive to the
gas tank too!

*<[]8-)~

Hopelessly lost under a foot of SNOW in Illinois,

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
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mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
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From: "Pickett, Bruce D" <Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: "'Revill Dunn'" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:28:20 -0800

Earplugs work for me.
:-)

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
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From: Revill Dunn [mailto:revill.dunn@legerity.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:47 AM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Rattles n squeaks


The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.

I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
fact, it seems worse.

Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?

Revill
Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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From: "Goldberg, Saul" <sgoldber@mc.cc.md.us>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:35:58 -0500

For you, mebbe. But some of us are anal-retentive. Have some sympathy.

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:28 PM
To: 'Revill Dunn'; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks


Earplugs work for me.
:-)

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.qwest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html


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From: Revill Dunn [mailto:revill.dunn@legerity.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:47 AM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Rattles n squeaks


The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.

I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
fact, it seems worse.

Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?

Revill
Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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From: "Revill Dunn" <revill.dunn@legerity.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:41:48 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Rattles n Squeaks

Saul Goldberg writes:

>Some of us are anal retentive

Not me. Not anymore. Now that I've got a PC I keep all my s*** in the trunk.  I
guess I'm trunk retentive.

Revill
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From: "Russ Goff" <big.russ@tesco.net>
To: "Paul Atkins" <patkins@new.rr.com>,
        "Pacific Coast List Posting" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: battery charger via quick connect system
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:03:02 -0000

I think you are asking if you can put a compatible connector on to your
charger and plug it into the same place as you plug you vest in to.
answer is ......yes. Just dont run the engine with it connected or you might
fry the charger. I suppose you could always put a big diode in line, but if
you knew how to do that I suspect you would not be asking the question.
cheers

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City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic
Milton Keynes
'89 Honda PC800 "Obelix"   '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i

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From: Paul Atkins <patkins@new.rr.com>
To: Pacific Coast List Posting <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:12 AM
Subject: PC800: battery charger via quick connect system


Hello All,
Paul from Green Bay here. I've unsubscribed to the list for while, could not
keep up with the mail, but wondering if anyone can help me.
I have an electrical hook up for my unobtanium electric vest that runs from
the battery under the seat to the gas filler box. When I run my vest, I just
open the door, and plug it in.

I'd like to connect a battery tender to the battery via the same cords. I
have a "quick connect" system. Can I get a quick connect set up to connect
the charger w/out accessing the battery?
thanks in advance and please respond to me at
patkins@new.rr.com

Thanks
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From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" <mrgvideo@aeroinc.net>
To: "PC 800 LIST" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: MSF Web Site
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:45:37 -0600



Hey, can someone send me the MSF web-site address.  Seems some computer =
gremlin erased the Favorite in my directory.  Must have been the =
"Autolean Elf"  !!!!!!

Thanks!

Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com


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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:56:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Are you guys aware that a backwards "pun" is a "nup"? And wouldn't you
think that's just about a "nup" out of all of ya?  <g>

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:22:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


> From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson [mailto:mrgvideo@aeroinc.net]
> "Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?"

Way back in the "early days" when the Stealth only had about 10K on her, I
rode back to Rapid City with my two sons to see my parents. On the way we
stopped at the I Killed Custer Monument in Montana--it was a REALLY HOT
day. So when we were riding on the back road to the battle sites I rode
with the helmet off for the first time. That was the noisiest damned ride
I ever took! Squeak, squeak, squeak...

My solution? Never rode with the helmet off again! <g> It's probably worse
now, but...do I care? Nah. Oh, yeah, I think I washed her once this year
too. That bike is so coddled she's gonna get spoilt... 

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:28:28 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
From: Daryl Tschoepe <tschoepe@earthlink.net>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Don't ride until February?

When it warms up...

:-)

It's possible that on 12/15/00 8:46 AM, Revill Dunn at
revill.dunn@legerity.com hurled this into the void...

> The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
> cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
> tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.
> 
> I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
> radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
> fact, it seems worse.
> 
> Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?
> 
> Revill
> Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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From: gwta@voyager.net
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:29:01 -0600 (CST)
To: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Cc: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: RE: PC800: Rattles n squeaks

Oh, yeah, I think I washed her once this year
> too.
>
> =====
> Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR

I guess a bike really is a reflection of its owner.

;) j/k Tim, couldn't resist.

Thomas

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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: MSF Web Site
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:31:25 -0800



I didn't receive a reply from anyone else on the list for this, so I'll post
it for posterity sake.
 
http://www.msf-usa.org/ <http://www.msf-usa.org/> 
 
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From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson [mailto:mrgvideo@aeroinc.net]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:46 AM
To: PC 800 LIST
Subject: PC800: MSF Web Site


Hey, can someone send me the MSF web-site address.  Seems some computer
gremlin erased the Favorite in my directory.  Must have been the "Autolean
Elf"  !!!!!!
 
Thanks!
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net <mailto:mrgvideo@aeroinc.net> 
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com <http://mrgunderson.tripod.com> 


  computer gremlin erased the Favorite in my directory.&nbsp; Must have been the 
  "Autolean Elf"&nbsp; !!!!!!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Mike Gunderson<BR>Davis, IL USA<BR>1989 Pacific 
  Coast<BR>"STORMTROOPER"<BR><A 
  href="mailto:mrgvideo@aeroinc.net">mrgvideo@aeroinc.net</A><BR><A 
  href="http://mrgunderson.tripod.com">http://mrgunderson.tripod.com</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:32:55 -0800
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, pacificcoast@egroups.com
Subject: PC800: PC800 parts list

Hi Coasters and Y2Kers,

Does anyone know if the parts microfiche for the PC800 has been put
online anywhere?  I'm thinking of doing it if it hasn't already been
done.

Please respond off list if you have any info.  I'm not currently
subscribed...

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'89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 33000 miles
PCRC #72

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:43:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: It's gonna be a long winter...
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


--- gwta@voyager.net wrote:
> Oh, yeah, I think I washed her once this year too.
> > =====
> > Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR
> 
> I guess a bike really is a reflection of its owner. ;) j/k Tim, couldn't
> resist.
> 
> Thomas

Well..well..uh...just don't ride downwind of me, smartass! <g> 'sokay,
Thomas, I can take it as well as dish it out, 'cause AT LEAST I'M STILL
RIDING!!! <snicker>. I don't even have to watch the Weather Channel to see
where it's snowing and cold--I just monitor this list. The worse the
weather gets...the worse the jokes get! And we are nothing if we are not
creative...

I'm waiting for someone to start the "How many miles did you ride this
year" thread...

=====
Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR

Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K) 

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:50:19 -0800
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, pacificcoast@egroups.com
Subject: PC800: Number of PC800s made

Hi Coasters and Y2Kers,

I was going through the PC800 parts microfiche yesterday and discovered
that the serial number ranges for each year are on it.  The fiche I have
(Ron Carey's) was produced in late '97 so the '98 figures are not
included.  I can't remember if that information has been posted before
or not so here it is:

Year    Type    Serial #    Number    Yearly    Overall
                        Range       of PCs      Total      Total

'89      non-CA 15-3896  3881          3881      3881
          CA         31-734      703          4584      4584

'90     non-CA  1-2558     2558          2558     7142
         CA          4-483         479          3037     7621

'94     non-CA   8-980         972           972      8593
         CA           1-220         220         1192      8813

'95     non-CA   1-869         869           869      9682
         CA           1-140         140         1009      9822

'96     non-CA   1-849         849           849     10671
         CA           1-221         221         1070     10892

'97     non-CA   1-623         623           623     11515
         CA           1-90             90           713     11605

'98     non-CA    1-?                ?               ?              ?
         CA            1-?                ?               ?
?


I have serial number 45 which would be the fifteenth California (CA) '89
produced.

Does anyone have a later microfiche that would have the '98 figures on
it?

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'89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 33000 miles
PCRC #72

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:51:59 -0800
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, pacificcoast@egroups.com
Subject: PC800: Off topic: Happy Holidays

Hi Coasters and Y2Kers,

I just wanted to wish everyone everywhere Happy Holidays!

Happy PCing!

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'89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 33000 miles
PCRC #72

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:00:01 -0500
From: "Chris Norloff" <cnorloff@norloff.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "Leland C. Sheppard"  <lcshepp@directcon.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 parts list

There's some at a French site
http://www.motofiches.com/microfiches/fiche.asp?T=13MR5K81
but no part numbers.

Watch out for copyright restrictions!

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From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:32:55 -0800

>Hi Coasters and Y2Kers,
>
>Does anyone know if the parts microfiche for the PC800 has been put
>online anywhere?  I'm thinking of doing it if it hasn't already been
>done.
>
>Please respond off list if you have any info.  I'm not currently
>subscribed...
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
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>
>'94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 155000 miles
>'89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 33000 miles
>PCRC #72
>
>Honda Pacific Coast Owner's Registry:
>
>http://www.pc800registry.org
>
>(goes to: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html)
>
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>
>http://www.pc800links.net
>
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>
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>
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>
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Date: 15 Dec 00 12:13:07 PST
From: David Orlich <DavidOrlich@netscape.net>
To: PC800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: The DARK side?

Dean Williams wrote of my PC purchase, that he was glad to see I've "cros=
sed
over from the Dark Side".  Hey Dean, I was riding a Gold Wing, not a Harl=
ey!

Which reminds me...last weekend as three PC800 owners and I were mounting=
 up,
a guy got out of his SUV and told us all about his Harley Heritage Softai=
l
that he was selling for $25,000 and did we want to buy it?

It was only politeness that kept me from telling him, "We are RIDERS, not=
 TOY
COLLECTORS".

P.S. I'm not on the mailing list, so replies can be sent to
davidorlich@netscape.net...plus I'll check the mail list archive regularl=
y.

David Orlich & Judy Herring

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From: "eddie" <transalp1@mindspring.com>
To: "David Orlich" <DavidOrlich@netscape.net>
Cc: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: The DARK side?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:36:05 -0500

"A guy got out of his SUV and told us all about his Harley Heritage Softail
that he was selling for $25,000 and did we want to buy it?"

David,

You used three terms in that sentence that, when used together, can define a
non-rider. SUV (okay if it's not used to tow your street bike), Harley
Heritage Softail, and a $ amount that would buy THREE new PC800s, if you
were a good enough haggler. I guess it's true. Antiques DO appreciate in
value. Especially ones that are still under warranty.

It still gives me the grins when I hear a HD rider talk about having ridden
their 2-year-old bike "a lot" and there isn't 7,500 miles showing on the
odometer. I have a lady friend that rode her BMW that much in a week not
long ago.

Cheers!
-eddie

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From: "Ben Crisologo" <bcrisologo@hotmail.com>
To: DavidOrlich@netscape.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, JeffHamltn@aol.com,
        raml@bus.usc.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: A PC800 at last!
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:12:32 

Hey David,

Congratulations on your PC purchase!  Sounds like a good deal.  Let me know 
if you want to take a quick ride this weekend, perhaps Sunday to the canyons 
or the coast.  Anyone else who wants to join is invited to come.

I can forgo the obligatory Christmas shopping this weekend.

Ben

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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "Tim Macy" <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>, "List PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:18:06 -0600

And the backwards of "fun" is "nuf" and we ain't had a nuf yet.;-)
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read


> Are you guys aware that a backwards "pun" is a "nup"? And wouldn't you
> think that's just about a "nup" out of all of ya?  <g>
> 
> =====
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> 
> Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
> STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K) 
> 
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> 
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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "Pacific Coast Owners" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: The Future of Me
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:34:57 -0600

Hiya gang,

Having completed my Political Science degree (which I will be officially
receiving Sunday afternoon) I applied for a host of positions.  One of them
came through and I'll be traveling to Johnstown, Pennsylvania for an
interview with the U.S. Department of Justice for an Intelligence Analyst
position.  In a very real sense, this is the culmination of 10 years of
hopes and dreams since I left the Navy in 1990.  I am excited and nervous
and hope to do well.  For those of you who might not be familiar with the
area, Johnstown is in West Central Pennsylvania, about halfway between Tim
Davies and Betty Lise Anderson.  I've been reviewing some maps and USGS
materials and have noticed that area is filled with roads that consist of a
lot of squiggly lines, so Seishin and I should have a great time.  Since
Pennsylvania is an area of the country that gets "real" winters, I have
vowed to find a place to live that is no more than 5 miles from the office.
Since this will be much shorter than the 70 mile round trip I have now, it
is plain to me that I will be required to substantially make up that deficit
on the weekends.  What a pity.....

Sorta off-topic, but any positive waves you-all could direct to that
location on Tuesday would be greatly appreciated.

Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."

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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: punth read (getting further off topic)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:46:26 -0800

I'm feeling the need to weigh in on this thread...

OK >> K.O.

HO! HO! HO! (the sound Santa makes) >> OH! OH! OH! (the sound your <ahem>
S.O. makes)

Stink >> Knits (no idea what it means, but it's meaningful)

Park >> Krap (weak, but I like the SOUND of that one)

IP >> PI (proving that the internet is for geeks)

And most of all:

DSL >> LSD!!

Woo hoo! Who said that the Internet couldn't expand your consciousness?

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From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:18 PM
To: Tim Macy; List PC800
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read


And the backwards of "fun" is "nuf" and we ain't had a nuf yet.;-)
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read


> Are you guys aware that a backwards "pun" is a "nup"? And wouldn't you
> think that's just about a "nup" out of all of ya?  <g>
> 
> =====
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> 
> Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
> STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K) 
> 
> AMA #492485, HRCA #239441, HSTA #6030, RCMC, STOC #1571
> 
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From: "Emile Nossin" <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date:   Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:48:50 +0100
Importance: Normal

Simple visual explanation of the autolean
theory (a picture says more than a 1000 words..):

Put your PC on the centerstand. Standing at the
left or right side of the bike push against
the bike's fairing in between the centerstand
and the frontweel (like somewhere behind the mirror).
When standing and pushing from the left side you
will see the front wheel will turn the same way
as you push (right). Voila a countersteer that
will cause a left turn / bank against the wind 
(you in this case). 

That simple experiment just hit me right after
I wrote the previous message when gearing up 
myself to ride into town for some shopping..
when you see it like this it's such a simple
explanation actually, isn't it ? Took me months
last year to figure it out.. now finally some
simple proof to show my theory.. I'm so proud
of myself : ))

Emile
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From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
Emile Nossin
Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2000 15:45
To: PC800
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory


We've discussed and I think solved the autolean
principle last century on this list. The ST has
autolean and so do other bikes. 

Explanation:
After some brainstorming we concluded that the
force of the crosswind on the side of the bike
moves the part in between the wheels downwind.. 
due to the trail of the frontwheel the frontwheel
will be rotated so that the front part of the wheel
points downwind also which will create a centrifugal
force for the bike direction upwind aided (for 9%)
by the gyroscopic precession of the frontwheel 
(caused by the moment exerted on the frontwheel
because of the trail)that will want to rotate the top
part of the bike upwind. 
So the more side fairing there is on a bike, the
more sidedrifting it will want to do but also the
more it will want to automatically stabilize this.

Conclusion:
if you are afraid of strong crosswinds and will
hang on to the bars very strongly you will not
allow the bike to stabilize itself with it's
autolean to counter the sidedrift. Sit relaxed,
let the bike do it's thing, helping it out where
you can (as it seems to react more stable but also
slower with speed). So a bike with a big fairing
does catch more wind but also wants to autolean
more to counter this. For me this is fun, for a 
lot of others all this moving can be disturbing
and scarey. The PC is probably very good in autolean
because of it's big side surface but also because
of it's low CG and agile steering geometry.

Any corrections or tips are welcome here since
it's mainly a theory, backed up with just a couple
of personal observations.

Emile
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From: "Emile Nossin" <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Honda Reflex
Date:   Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:56:19 +0100
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I never heard of the reflex before. I do know
about the Honda Silverwing.. 600cc twin.. like
the 500cc Yamaha's pretty good commuters I think..
they go like hell, I hard a hard time keeping
up with a group of journalists who raced by me
(BY ME !!) on 6 of this new Yamaha 500cc scooters..
and me on my ST... it wouldn't surprise me if
they can outrun the PC..  according to this one
journalist which I asked a quick question before
the light turned green and they all blasted away
they did 100 mph on it without any problem, he
loved it.. doesn't sound like a scooter anymore..
not as much comfort, torque and trunk as the PC
I think, but still very nice..

Emile
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J. A. Kopp
Sent: vrijdag 15 december 2000 17:55
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Honda Reflex


I'm surprised the topic of Honda's new scooter, the Reflex, hasn't been
discussed much on this list. Since our bike has at least a superficial
resemblance to a scooter, or a scooter/goldwing cross as some say, I would
think Honda's Reflex would be of some interest. But maybe I'm reading the
demographic wrong.

Before buying my '95 Coaster I looked at scooters but found the old Helix to
be quite unattractive and there wasn't much else in the "big" scooter
market. The Reflex has changed all that. It's big, attractive, relatively
practical, and highly capable of either zipping around urban downtown or
down the freeway. I saw a red model at the Seattle Motorcycle show and
immediately knew that if I hadn't been able to find a good used PC like I
did, the Reflex would be my ride. Of course, the PC is even bigger, more
practical and even more highly capable, and can be had for a fraction of the
Reflex's $5,799 (I think) price tag. But you already knew that.

Cheers,

Joel

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:55:24 -0600
From: William Drake <pc800rider@mediaone.net>
To: Ralph Couey <pcstarship@home.com>
CC: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: The Future of Me

Ralph,

 I wish you the best of luck and Congrats on the degree. I truly hope
you get the job of your dreams as this is not an easy thing to obtain.

Keep us posted

Bill Drake
Bolingbrook, IL
'97PC800 "Prairie Schooner" 

Ralph Couey wrote:
> 
> Hiya gang,
> 
> Having completed my Political Science degree (which I will be officially
> receiving Sunday afternoon) I applied for a host of positions.  One of them
> came through and I'll be traveling to Johnstown, Pennsylvania for an
> interview with the U.S. Department of Justice for an Intelligence Analyst
> position.  In a very real sense, this is the culmination of 10 years of
> hopes and dreams since I left the Navy in 1990.  I am excited and nervous
> and hope to do well.  For those of you who might not be familiar with the
> area, Johnstown is in West Central Pennsylvania, about halfway between Tim
> Davies and Betty Lise Anderson.  I've been reviewing some maps and USGS
> materials and have noticed that area is filled with roads that consist of a
> lot of squiggly lines, so Seishin and I should have a great time.  Since
> Pennsylvania is an area of the country that gets "real" winters, I have
> vowed to find a place to live that is no more than 5 miles from the office.
> Since this will be much shorter than the 70 mile round trip I have now, it
> is plain to me that I will be required to substantially make up that deficit
> on the weekends.  What a pity.....
> 
> Sorta off-topic, but any positive waves you-all could direct to that
> location on Tuesday would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Ralph Couey
> Columbia, MO
> '95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
> "A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:56:20 -0800

Listers:

I have to admit that the first time I read this, I imagined myself standing
with my PC on its center stand, pushing on the fairing, and watching the
bike go over. Of course, all the neighbors would be standing around watching
and would laugh hysterically at the sight. Naturally, after reading it a few
more times, I can appreciate the difference between "push" and "shove".

Just anxiety over the fact that I don't like to pick up my bike after a
drop? Perhaps.

All the same, perhaps I won't try this experiment. Trips off way too many of
the "common sense" alarms in my head :)

My own theory (as half-baked as it is) about AutoLean (TM) (R) is what was
basically taught in my MSF level one class: if you have crosswind, lean into
it. And HOW do you lean into it? You countersteer ("press handlebars in the
direction you want to go (i.e. lean)") much like turning...

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From: Emile Nossin [mailto:E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:49 PM
To: PC800
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory


Simple visual explanation of the autolean
theory (a picture says more than a 1000 words..):

Put your PC on the centerstand. Standing at the
left or right side of the bike push against
the bike's fairing in between the centerstand
and the frontweel (like somewhere behind the mirror).
When standing and pushing from the left side you
will see the front wheel will turn the same way
as you push (right). Voila a countersteer that
will cause a left turn / bank against the wind 
(you in this case). 

That simple experiment just hit me right after
I wrote the previous message when gearing up 
myself to ride into town for some shopping..
when you see it like this it's such a simple
explanation actually, isn't it ? Took me months
last year to figure it out.. now finally some
simple proof to show my theory.. I'm so proud
of myself : ))

Emile
www.piloot.com 
www.ipcrc.org



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Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2000 15:45
To: PC800
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory


We've discussed and I think solved the autolean
principle last century on this list. The ST has
autolean and so do other bikes. 

Explanation:
After some brainstorming we concluded that the
force of the crosswind on the side of the bike
moves the part in between the wheels downwind.. 
due to the trail of the frontwheel the frontwheel
will be rotated so that the front part of the wheel
points downwind also which will create a centrifugal
force for the bike direction upwind aided (for 9%)
by the gyroscopic precession of the frontwheel 
(caused by the moment exerted on the frontwheel
because of the trail)that will want to rotate the top
part of the bike upwind. 
So the more side fairing there is on a bike, the
more sidedrifting it will want to do but also the
more it will want to automatically stabilize this.

Conclusion:
if you are afraid of strong crosswinds and will
hang on to the bars very strongly you will not
allow the bike to stabilize itself with it's
autolean to counter the sidedrift. Sit relaxed,
let the bike do it's thing, helping it out where
you can (as it seems to react more stable but also
slower with speed). So a bike with a big fairing
does catch more wind but also wants to autolean
more to counter this. For me this is fun, for a 
lot of others all this moving can be disturbing
and scarey. The PC is probably very good in autolean
because of it's big side surface but also because
of it's low CG and agile steering geometry.

Any corrections or tips are welcome here since
it's mainly a theory, backed up with just a couple
of personal observations.

Emile
'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse"
www.piloot.com
www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club


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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:57:05 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: The Future of Me
To: pcstarship@home.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

Good luck Ralph and I hope I will be able to welcome you to the "neighborhood"
after next Tuesday.

Tim Davies
Seneca Falls, New York 13148
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pcstarship@home.com writes:
>Hiya gang,
>
>Having completed my Political Science degree (which I will be officially
>receiving Sunday afternoon) I applied for a host of positions.  One of them
>came through and I'll be traveling to Johnstown, Pennsylvania for an
>interview with the U.S. Department of Justice for an Intelligence Analyst
>position.  In a very real sense, this is the culmination of 10 years of
>hopes and dreams since I left the Navy in 1990.  I am excited and nervous
>and hope to do well.  For those of you who might not be familiar with the
>area, Johnstown is in West Central Pennsylvania, about halfway between Tim
>Davies and Betty Lise Anderson.  I've been reviewing some maps and USGS
>materials and have noticed that area is filled with roads that consist of a
>lot of squiggly lines, so Seishin and I should have a great time.  Since
>Pennsylvania is an area of the country that gets "real" winters, I have
>vowed to find a place to live that is no more than 5 miles from the office.
>Since this will be much shorter than the 70 mile round trip I have now, it
>is plain to me that I will be required to substantially make up that deficit
>on the weekends.  What a pity.....
>
>Sorta off-topic, but any positive waves you-all could direct to that
>location on Tuesday would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Ralph Couey
>Columbia, MO
>'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
>"A life lived without risk is no life at all."

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:02:34 -0800
To: "PC800 List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Jim Alexander <jamesalexander@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory

You know that PMS is setting in when AutoLean starts being discussed!   ;-)

Jim Alexander

At 09:38 PM 12/14/2000, Coverts wrote:
>
>Steve,
>
>Thought that would be counter counter steering.  Anyway be sure to you use
>counter intuitive thinking before engaging the vortex converter.  That
>should mitigate any effect of lower wheel shroud.
>
>Rick

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From: "Emile Nossin" <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date:   Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:08:39 +0100
Importance: Normal

Ah.. the parked motorcycle syndrom.. the joy one
must have to look forward to the riding season..  : )

E
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Sent: zaterdag 16 december 2000 0:03
To: PC800 List
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory


You know that PMS is setting in when AutoLean starts being discussed!   ;-)

Jim Alexander

At 09:38 PM 12/14/2000, Coverts wrote:
>
>Steve,
>
>Thought that would be counter counter steering.  Anyway be sure to you use
>counter intuitive thinking before engaging the vortex converter.  That
>should mitigate any effect of lower wheel shroud.
>
>Rick

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From: "Emile Nossin" <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date:   Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:12:26 +0100
Importance: Normal

>Hall, Randy
>My own theory (as half-baked as it is) about AutoLean (TM) (R) is what was
>basically taught in my MSF level one class: if you have crosswind, lean into
>it. And HOW do you lean into it? You countersteer ("press handlebars in the
>direction you want to go (i.e. lean)") much like turning...

You're describing manlean (TM) (manual lean, the mechanical backup of autolean).
You can observe autolean when entering a crosswind and just leaving
your hands *of* the handlebars, throttle lock engaged, and just seeing
the bike lean itself into the wind, this is not myth.. been there done it etc..
Then again I can imagine this experiment will trip off even more "common
sense" alarms in your head... don't get too paranoide though or you'll
want to give up motorcycling soon.. ; )

Emile
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From: "Hall, Randy" <randy.hall@intel.com>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:26:32 -0800

I count _any_ advice that includes the phrase "leaving [one's] hands off of
the handlebars" in the Red-Flag-No-No-Don't-You-Dare-Try-This category. A
contest about trying to outlive my friends that smoke prevents me from
attempting this maneuver.

Of course, having never been on my PC in a stiff crosswind, I've never seen
the phenomenon; thus, I am, as they say "Talking out of my buttocks"!

Perhaps someone needs to create an aftermarket product that
increases/decreases AutoLean, depending on your preference (something like
windscreen edging?)

:)

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:28:56 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
CC: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's gonna be a long winter...

Ouch!  Yea, your right.  No riding going on here.  At least 20 inches on
the ground, piled many feet high, rain coming tommorrow on the ice on
the ground.  Can't barely survive in a 4 wheeler, much less the 2
wheeled version.  Nope, both bikes are put to bed till March.  Sigh.

Thomas

Tim Macy wrote:
> 
> --- gwta@voyager.net wrote:
> > Oh, yeah, I think I washed her once this year too.
> > > =====
> > > Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR
> >
> > I guess a bike really is a reflection of its owner. ;) j/k Tim, couldn't
> > resist.
> >
> > Thomas
> 
> Well..well..uh...just don't ride downwind of me, smartass! <g> 'sokay,
> Thomas, I can take it as well as dish it out, 'cause AT LEAST I'M STILL
> RIDING!!! <snicker>. I don't even have to watch the Weather Channel to see
> where it's snowing and cold--I just monitor this list. The worse the
> weather gets...the worse the jokes get! And we are nothing if we are not
> creative...
> 
> I'm waiting for someone to start the "How many miles did you ride this
> year" thread...
> 
> =====
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:09:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: It's gonna be a long winter...
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


--- Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net> wrote:
> Ouch!  Yea, your right.  No riding going on here.  At least 20 inches on
> the ground, piled many feet high, rain coming tommorrow on the ice on
> the ground.  Can't barely survive in a 4 wheeler, much less the 2
> wheeled version.  Nope, both bikes are put to bed till March.  Sigh.

Jeez, Thomas, you're making me feel guilty! We had about 2" of snow
earlier this week, which is pretty much enough to stop Portland in its
tracks. Some winters we don't even have any snow, so when we do Portland
turns into a road-zoo. That melted the next day and yesterday we had heavy
rain with heavier winds. We only had 45mph gusts in Oldberg, but the
slopes of the Cascades got nailed big-time. There were unofficial gusts of
over 125mph on the slopes of Mt Hood. Today was a "window" of opportunity;
it got up to 50 and clear--so I got out for a quick 55-mile ride after
work. Tomorrow? Heavy rain and even windier. Goody. 

But nothing like what you and just about everybody east of the Cascades
are dealing with. Back in Milwaukee, WI, where Nan is from they had 13" of
snow. Rapid City, where I'm from, got down to zero and is heading back
there again tonight. So I do have sympathy and empathy with what you're
dealing with.

But...I like to look east to the Cascades and look at the snow on the
mountains...where it belongs! I used to love snow and winter sports.
Somewhere along the line, though, I got real tired of dealing with winter.
I think it was living in Wisconsin for 15 years and not knowing when it
was going to go away. We decided to move from South Milwaukee, WI, back in
'77 when we had 25 inches of snow on April 25th. That morning we went out
to a ranch in Racine where we had our horses and went riding in gorgeous
springtime weather. That afternoon we got slammed so hard with a blizzard
that we barely made it home from the ranch through high drifts. Something
snapped...suddenly I couldn't stand it any more...and Nan agreed. A month
later we were gone.

Sorry for drifting off there! 

=====
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Subject: Re: PC800: Rattles n squeaks
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:12:29 -0600
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To: Revill Dunn <revill.dunn@legerity.com>



Hey Revill,
Red Tide did that the other day.  If I clamped my knees against the (gas 
tank cover?) it was quiet.  In the normal riding position it made a NEW 
funny noise.  I thought it was something I was just noticing for the 
first time.  It being cold (45 in Texas) and I was going slower than 
usual to retain body heat.  When I left work later that day and it was a 
blistering 65, it did not make the new funny noise.   I would be 
interested in hearing anyone up "North" where it gets cold for real 
explain or try to explain what is going on.  This could be another 
autolean discussion.

Chris

Revill Dunn wrote:

> The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
> cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
> tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.
> 
> I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
> radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
> fact, it seems worse.
> 
> Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?
> 
> Revill
> Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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<pre>Hey Revill,
Red Tide did that the other day.  If I clamped my knees against the (gas 
tank cover?) it was quiet.  In the normal riding position it made a NEW 
funny noise.  I thought it was something I was just noticing for the 
first time.  It being cold (45 in Texas) and I was going slower than 
usual to retain body heat.  When I left work later that day and it was a 
blistering 65, it did not make the new funny noise.   I would be 
interested in hearing anyone up "North" where it gets cold for real 
explain or try to explain what is going on.  This could be another 
autolean discussion.

Chris

Revill Dunn wrote:

&gt; The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
&gt; cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
&gt; tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.
&gt; 
&gt; I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
&gt; radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
&gt; fact, it seems worse.
&gt; 
&gt; Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?
&gt; 
&gt; Revill
&gt; Rider of Whirby (squeak!)
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:36:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Weather Report
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>


--- Revill Dunn <revill.dunn@legerity.com> wrote:
> Just thought you Yankees might enjoy a weather report from Austin.  For
> two days now the TV weatherpeople have been hyperventilating over the
> Possiblility of Severe Winter Weather.  

Revill, I absolutely loved your tale of winter terror in Austin! It sounds
exactly like what happens here in the Portland area. If there's even a
HINT of snow the local stations plant their reporters at the obligatory
spots around the area that become problematic when the weather turns
wintry. There's nothing funnier than watching them try to backpedal when
the snow/ice doesn't materialize! But in the past two or three years the
competition for the "firstest with the mostest" has spawned the funniest
reactions of all--naming the storms! I believe it was two years ago when a
storm in January was named the Great Storm of '99 by one of the stations.
I wonder what they would have done if we had had an even larger storm in 
February???!!!


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Stealthmobile     - '94 Honda PC800 (121K)
STealthmobile II  - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (17K) 

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From: "Randy Ashurst" <ashurst@thebest.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Suzuki Justice
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:07:35 -0500

Once upon a time there was a frog who lived in a lake all by
 himself.   He  had been given special powers by a local witch.
 One day he finally ventured out of the lake to get his first
 glimpse of  the world outside. The first thing he saw was a bear chasing a
rabbit and so he called out to them and asked them to stop.  Then he said
to them: "I am  a magical frog and since you are the first two animals  have
ever seen, I am  going to grant you both three wishes.  You will each take
turns using them  and you have to use them now."
   The bear (being greedy) went first. "I would like for every bear
in  this forest to be female except  for me." A magical sound and it was
done.   Then the rabbit. "I would like a helmet." This confused both the
frog  and the bear, but after a magical sound there was a helmet.
  It was the bear's turn again. "I would like for every bear in the
  neighbouring forest to be female."  A magical sound and it was
 done.
  The rabbit went again. "I would like a motorcycle."
 Both the frog and the bear wondered why the rabbit didn't  just ask for a
lot of money with which he could buy himself a motorcycle, but after a
magical sound there was a motorcycle.
   The bear took his last wish. "I would like for all the bears in
the  world  to be female except for me."   A magical sound and it was done.
  The rabbit then put on his helmet, started up the motorcycle, and
 said   "I wish the bear was gay"  and took off like a bat out hell.

Ha  that's a good one.  BTW me and the wife went to see that new Russel
Crowe movie tonight  "Proof of Life"  Wow just incredible.  He is gonna be
huge or even hugeer soon.  Even has a Casablanca ending.  Real acting and
superb action.

Bye Randy


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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:28:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Macy <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read (ad nauseum!)
To: List PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

> > Are you guys aware that a backwards "pun" is a "nup"? And wouldn't you
> > think that's just about a "nup" out of all of ya?  <g>

> > Tim "Scuffy" Macy, Newberg,OR

--- Ralph Couey <pcstarship@home.com> wrote:
> And the backwards of "fun" is "nuf" and we ain't had a nuf yet.;-)

And 2/3 of a pun is "p-u"...and that certainly was a stinker, Ralph! :-)

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From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: PC800: Re: The Future of Me 
   of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:34:57 CST." <002b01c066e7$41514ea0$81ca0c18@clmba1.mo.home.com> 
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:23:44 -0600

"Ralph Couey" writes:
[...]
> For those of you who might not be familiar with the
> area, Johnstown is in West Central Pennsylvania, about halfway between Tim
> Davies and Betty Lise Anderson.

About 50 miles from my sister in Monroeville, where I'll be during the
holidays. Without the PC.  :-(


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Date: 15 Dec 00 23:01:17 PST
From: David Orlich <DavidOrlich@netscape.net>
To: PC800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: backrests for PC800?

Well, now that my 1995 Pacific Coast is in my clutches, it is time to
accessorise.  No, not a shiny black leather leisure suit to match the pai=
nt
job...though that would be considered stylish here in parts of L.A.

What I do need is a taller windshield and a tall backrest.  The windshiel=
d
problem will be solved nicely with the discount priced Clearview shield t=
hat
CCARONNA just wrote us about.  Thanks, Chris!

But I could use advise about backrests.  The Hondaline backrest is shorte=
r
than I'd like, while the Corbin looks to be a better height.  But it appe=
ars
to attach only to the Corbin seat, which I don't care to invest in at thi=
s
time.  Any suggestions on other backrests?  Affordable ones?

P.S. I'm not on the mailing list, so replies can be sent to
davidorlich@netscape.net   Plus I'll check the mail list archive regularl=
y.

David Orlich and Judy Herring
1995 PC800 "Storm Noir"


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:40:58 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: PC800: Trailer question



Hi folks.

I've been thinking about treating myself to a single wheel trailer to 
pull behind my PC800.  I hear that someone on the Y2K ride had a 
single wheel trailer.  Does anyone remember who that was?  I would 
really like to speak with them.

Thanks..

fsl
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Ottawa, Canada  , but currently in Chicago, IL
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Waltzing Matilda

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From: "Ron Grant" <ultspnch@powerup.com.au>
To: "PC800 group" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Ron'sback on......
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:00:24 +1000



Hi Folks!

Thought I would make up a bit of an 'intro' as I have just got back on =
the list. I suspect that I have been off long enough that many of the =
recipients would not know that there is a PC rider in Oz!!

But, yes I am still here, and indeed just today will clamp the battery =
charger on the 90 PC to take it up tomorrow to the sunshine coast for a =
Christmas visit.=20

I bought this bike second hand in Los Angeles in 1993, and imported it =
within the extremely rigid Australian regulations. Any one could do =
this, but it involved staying 3 months in the USA, and I suspect that no =
one else has repeated the procedure, so still claim to have the ONLY PC =
in oz!

I have lavished a bit of time and effort on this bike , and made it a =
bit of a 'rolling'project, with electronic cruise control, trunk stereo =
and GPS being a few of the additions seldom seen on bikes here. Of =
course it is not my only transport, although with the near perfect =
climate year round, here, I don't use a car. I 'rotate' transport duties =
between the PC, two Helix's, and my Honda NSR 150RR from Thailand. I =
also keep a VF700 in Los Angeles, a bike I bought a few years ago from =
John LaFrenniere, and it has served me well for two USA tours.

So with school out now I will have the time to get involved with my =
computer more, and trust the list will provide its normal stimulating =
daily read, and I hope to participate also.

Oh yes, one more thing, if any listmembers need info/advice on Oz or a =
future trip plan, please don't be shy to ask.


Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!

Motorcycle Travel Web Page
www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:27:18 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@raex.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Rattles n squeaks

I have used Elmer's brand dry spray lubricant on my PC800's joints to 
de-squeak.  Here is the Elmer's site for the stuff:

http://www.elmers.com/PRODUCT_INDEX/product_page.asp?pCode=E450

Bob Patterson



>The weather has finally turned cold, at least what us wimpy Texans think is
>cold.  Whirby has started buzzing, rattling and squeaking like a box of
>tupperware for the first five minutes until the plastic warms up.
>
>I've experimented with stick on felt tabs under the fuel filler door and the
>radiator lid (the major rattle sources) with absolutely no improvement.  In
>fact, it seems worse.
>
>Anyone have any success at de-squeaking a PC?  What's the secret?

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From: "Paul Atkins" <patkins@new.rr.com>
To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Battery tender hook up
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:37:22 -0600



Greeting and thanks to all that sent me email about hooking up a battery =
tender via my electric vest hook up.

Problem solved!

I was using an Optimate charger that did not have the proper connectors, =
and it was not working properly anyway. So,=20
I just got back from a local store with the Battery Tender brand charger =
and it hooked up easily with my wiring for the vest. So, as we type, my =
bike is charging up. Very cool.

This is the first year I am taking the lazy man's storage routine. =
Instead of taking the battery out and following the rest of the steps in =
the manual (I HAVE COME TO HATE THAT PLASTIC ON AND OFF PROCESS IN MY =
COLD GARAGE IN SPRING AND FALL!!!!), I shot some stabil in the tank, had =
an oil change, and now keeping the battery charged INSIDE the bike.

I feel lazy and it feels good!

Happy winter to all of southern climes and enjoy your rides. I will =
enjoy winter with snowshoeing, skiing, going to bed early and reading =
good books by the window!

Please respond OFF LIST to me, if you like. Take care
Paul in Green Bay
patkins@new.rr.com   =20

<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Problem solved!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was using an Optimate charger that =
did not have=20
the proper connectors, and it was not working properly anyway. So, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just got back from a local store with =
the Battery=20
Tender brand charger and it hooked up easily with my wiring for the =
vest. So, as=20
we type, my bike is charging up. Very cool.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is the first year I am taking the =
lazy man's=20
storage routine. Instead of taking the battery out and following the =
rest of the=20
steps in the manual (I HAVE COME TO HATE THAT PLASTIC ON AND OFF PROCESS =
IN MY=20
COLD GARAGE IN SPRING AND FALL!!!!), I shot some stabil in the tank, had =
an oil=20
change, and now keeping the battery charged INSIDE the =
bike.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I feel lazy and it feels =
good!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Happy winter to all of southern climes =
and enjoy=20
your rides. I will enjoy winter with snowshoeing, skiing, going to bed =
early and=20
reading good books by the window!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please respond OFF LIST to me, if you =
like. Take=20
care</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paul in Green Bay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:patkins@new.rr.com">patkins@new.rr.com</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: "Emile Nossin" <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>, "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: AutoLean theory
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:32:21 -0800



> Simple visual explanation of the autolean
> theory (a picture says more than a 1000 words..):
>

Emile, this ranks as the most brilliant post I have ever seen on this list.

Your thinking here is outside the 16 dots, way back inside the heart of the
question, and beautifully elegant, all at once.

You are a gift to all of us.

Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"



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From: "Great Ned" <greatned@quik.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "Francois Saint Laurent" <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer question
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:41:25 -0800

15) DURST, Mike
mdurst@citynet.net

30) NOETH, Peter
Peter_N1@verifone.com


But as I recall they had two wheels.  Per trailer.  Making four per capita.

Lee Bar9ker
95 "Secondo con Brio"



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From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:32:11 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:32:11 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Wing Prices
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu



Well guy's I just stopped in at the dealership here in Green Bay. They had a 
red one on the show room floor. i had the salesman run thru everything with 
me. WOW! keyless entry for the top saddlebag! I would have to agree with 
Bernie, it is pretty nice and 
would be  nice replacement. Very Slick! L8ter...

Todd Skar
89'PC 20k
"Poseidon"
Green Bay, WI
 PCRC#720
NEWPCRC
 (president)


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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:21:34 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reflex
To: E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

If what you say is true, maybe with a stretch of the imagination the Yamaha 
could be a substitute for the PC, But NOT the Reflex. It is cute, but only 
250cc and advertised speed "up to 85". I saw one today at the Dallas Show.

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:23:20 EST
Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reflex
To: E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu

PS the Silverwing is not at this time scheduled to be sold in the US

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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From: BillandScoot@cs.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:59:42 -0500 (EST)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:59:42 EST
Subject: PC800: Dallas Cycle World Show, PC sightings,Autolean, etc.
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hi Gang,
As I mentioned in my earlier posting, I just got back from Dallas. It was a 
good show. Lots of neat things to look at. There was one other PC in the 
parking lot when I got ready to leave. A 90 model with a lot of goodies on 
it. If the owner is a list member, do the little plexiglass/lexan dealies on 
the mirrors help? I intended to call "Bernie" while I was there, but 
absentmindly forgot to take my phone book with me. 
Also saw another red one going north on I 35 somewhere out of Austin on my 
way home. I was dealing with traffic and saw it at the last minute. 
Had my own experience in a big way with Autolean for about 40 miles pushing 
through an approximate 35-40 mph crosswind coming out of Dallas. Once I got 
to going more directly south it turned into a tailwind, which was nice. 
Cruised along at about 85-90 and could still listen to the oldies. It was a 
bit too cool for my liking, but it was an enjoyable trip.   

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@ST1100.net>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Honda Reflex
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:36:27 +0100
Importance: Normal

http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com
Click on motorcycles, click on scooters,
voila the 500cc Yamaha Tmax, looks nice
in dark blue I think (you can click that color).
Nicer than the Silverwing I think, the mirrors
one the Silverwing loook a bit cheap I think.
But then the Silverwing has the 600cc twin engine..
I believe there is a Tmax review on www.motorcycle.com
as well.

Emile

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To: E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reflex


If what you say is true, maybe with a stretch of the imagination the Yamaha 
could be a substitute for the PC, But NOT the Reflex. It is cute, but only 
250cc and advertised speed "up to 85". I saw one today at the Dallas Show.

Bill Richardson
98PC"Scoot" 
San Antonio
iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137

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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: <BillandScoot@cs.com>, <E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reflex
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:54:09 -0600

And neither is the Yamaha T-Max, another super-scooter.  
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
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Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reflex


> PS the Silverwing is not at this time scheduled to be sold in the US
> 
> Bill Richardson
> 98PC"Scoot" 
> San Antonio
> iPCRC #906 HRCA #001137
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From: "Ralph Couey" <pcstarship@home.com>
To: "Tim Macy" <stealthrider_tim@yahoo.com>, "List PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: punth read (ad nauseum!)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:02:45 -0600

If you thought that was a stinker, you should have heard the odor one....
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."