********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wakefield, Steve L." To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Fabricating broken tabs Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 04:34:43 -0500 What material should I use to fabricate a new forward tab on the right side cover? Perhaps the question should be what material is the right side cover made of, and what is a readily available source of this material? SWake -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 08:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 08:34:55 EDT Subject: PC800: Re Polishing things off! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers & Coasters: You might remember a tread a few months back about the finish on later models not being clearcoated. I had and 89 and now have a 96. After a few summer months of neglect (i.e riding vs wrenching and cleaning), I had noticed the finsih had become quite dull. So I pulled out my Novus #2 Plastic Polish yesterday and gave the Red Baroness a good scrubbing. When applying the polish I noticed that some of the red paint came off on the cloth, however when buffing it out, very little came off and the shine was instantly restored. Now I'm debating whether to wax or not? BTW, all of this was precipated by the replacement of my front tire. (You never know how dirty your bike gets until you start removing plastic). You also never know how much handling you sacrifice as you wear your tires down until you put a new one on! Rob Cary NC 96 "Red Baroness" 8.5K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Re Polishing things off! To: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 07:46:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Rob, I have a 98 (also red) and I noticed the same thing. I use Novus on the wind screen, but I got a set of #1, #2, and #3 McGuire's body care for the fairing. #1 and #2 cause a noticeable amount of red so show up on the rags (old tee shirt parts), so it's not much to worry about, in my opinion. I would suggest the #3 wax when you are happy with the shine. A hard wax will resist the red coming off on your jeans during a long ride. (Some have complained about this happening to them.) I've not had that happen yet, but my paint is two years less deteriorated than yours, and I wax it. The same thing might happen to me anyway, some day, but today the wax looks like a good alternative to having the bike clearcoated. In an earlier email to me ROBJHALL@aol.com said: > > Listers & Coasters: > You might remember a tread a few months back about the finish on later models > not being clearcoated. I had and 89 and now have a 96. After a few summer > months of neglect (i.e riding vs wrenching and cleaning), I had noticed the > finsih had become quite dull. > > So I pulled out my Novus #2 Plastic Polish yesterday and gave the Red > Baroness a good scrubbing. When applying the polish I noticed that some of > the red paint came off on the cloth, however when buffing it out, very > little came off and the shine was instantly restored. Now I'm debating > whether to wax or not? > > BTW, all of this was precipated by the replacement of my front tire. (You > never know how dirty your bike gets until you start removing plastic). You > also never know how much handling you sacrifice as you wear your tires down > until you put a new one on! > > > Rob > Cary NC > 96 "Red Baroness" > 8.5K > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Regards, Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazeco -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:53:06 EDT Subject: PC800: Loess Hills rally report (long) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This past Saturday, the first annual Loess hills bike rally and poker run was held. This was largely a Hardley event- the main sponsor has just started a Hardley dedicated shop- but all makes and models were welcomed. The company I work for has a large enthusiast contingent- the CEO and family ride, as do a great many of the managers- and shortly after I started riding to work, I was invited to join their group... And this rally. My first impression, as I tooled into the Westfair arena, converted into a staging area for the rally and run- was that the event sponsors had achived a very nice cross section of the local Harley riders... If nothing else. Every possible make and model of Milwaulkee iron seemed to be represented, as well as heavy customs, trikes and mutant ape hanging choppers. The Christian Motorcycle club was there... As well as the local chapter of Hell's Angels. My own group encluded a 1963 FLH, a Road King, a couple of Sprtster types, a Kawasaki Vulcan, A Buell and the PC. I looked around for non Harleys... And while other makes were certainly outnumbered, there were quite a few 'Wings, a couple of BMW's and assorted Harley emulating Japanese bikes present. I got to play with one of those BMW touring rigs. while we waited to sign up for the Poker run. Verrry expensive looking and competent bike. Smooth, quiet and spacey. Best stock sound system I have ever heard... But it also felt surprisingly fragile under power. Just an impression, but it did not feel as massively bolted together and stable as a Wing, and the seat felt like it would be very uncomfortable after a very few miles. The girlfriend was imediately smitten with it. I tend to think that the new Wing is going to beat it like a red headed stepchild.. On look and feel alone. The oddest thing... Two Helixes showed up for the run. (Which led to a lot of pointing over at the PC, the resemblance, alas, being pretty strong.) No one gave the scooteroids any crap either. People seemed delighted and fascinated by them. As for the run itself.... Some general observations : The Road King took point- the rider was the only one in our contigent who knew the route- and he set a very brisk pace indeed. I doubt that we ran any section at less than 75 miles per hour, wherever possible. I would have preferred a slower pace, if only to look around at the scenery- the Loess Hills are beautiful this time of year- but it certainly ramped up my appreciation of the route. Lots of twisties and sweepers. The route planners, additionally, planned things out so that the route got _increasingly_ interesting to ride as the event proceeded. The last leg was appreciably more complex than the first. The PC handled the road with total competency. Not even the deepening radius stuff- where the curve suddenly gets steeper midway through- seemed to bother her. I have never ridden the PC as hard, or for such a sustained time frame. Moreover, I had never attempted any kind of canyon carving with a passenger. But... My girlfriend is now a seasoned passenger, and we've developed enough of a comfort level with one another that I felt free to push the limits a bit. Ride with some agression. And the PC literally seemed to encourage this. Even with a passenger and stiff crosswinds, I _never_ felt like I was getting into something that Xena could not handle, and handle with ease. It's funny how changing your normal riding style can lead to an entirely new appreciation of your machine. Xena and I are normally more commuters and boulevardiers than anything else. But her temproary conversion into guided missile status was eye opening. A Gentleman's Express indeed. Predicatably, the Buell and I were the only decently handling bikes in our pack. The Buell, however, had the definate performance edge. I only kept up with him by indulgence. He seemed to enjoy having someone to boom and zoom with. When he wanted to shake out the road a little, however, there was NO keeping up possible. On the last leg of the run, after a nasty incident between a couple of other riders, he pretty clearly decided to shake our little pack... And get off by himself. Enjoy seeing what he could really do... He pulled back to ride along side, tossed me a friendly wave, and uncorked. Watching him go was practically a special effect. He was along side. Then in front. Then- quite simply- he was gone. Out in front, around a bend, and out of sight. It was like something had just grabbed that bike and yanked it into outer space. Very impressive. (Although I have never seen a sport bike that shook and rattled as much as the Buell. Harley heritage, I suppose, but it shuddered and percolated something fierce.) Some specific observations: We left Westfair as a group. Everyone stayed together, and maintained appropriate riding styles and attitudes; staggered formation, staying in sight, and so forth. There was a lot of laughing and gentle humor. When we first joined up, the Harley guys made a joke out of the PC's lack of engine noise... Pulling alongside to ask- shouting over their burbling pipes- if the damned thing was actually running. My standard- shouted response- was that I was certain that it was, as all of the lights were on. This turned into a shorthand along that first leg. Someone would pull along side, and cup their hand to their ears, smile, and ratchet off... When we stopped- for the Harley riders to remove helmets and gas up and shed clothing-along the way, there was even more good natured ribbing... As well as open appreciation of that marvellous trunk. (And my final response to the noise commentary... Was that I kept looking along to road for Haley parts, so that I could scoop them up and return them to their owners.) The first stop- Missouri Valley- looked like a mini Sturgis. Chrome and noise and black leather. Lots of bare stomachs and almost bare breasts. Lots of weekend warriors mixing with true biker Klingon types. The girlfriend- after some concern about all the rouch looking characters- had a great time wandering around, and I must admit that I did, as well. The second stop- in Pisgah- was at the authentic Old Home fill'er up and keep on trucking cafe. ( For those of you old enough to remember CW McCall, Mavis, and so forth. I would have had photographs to post, but my camera got sucked out of my pocket during a 95 mile an hour screaming pass along the way. Nothing but plastic bits when I motored back to retrieve it.) The place was certainly different from the Hollywood shot commercial version. A long, low, barn like bar. The people were very nice, however. It was the only place that served _food_ to the crowds.. On the other hand... The food made people sick, which made me wonder about their status as a working cafe- and the behaviour of the crowd started to harden, at this stop. At the initial stop non the run, it was sort of... A cool crowd of enthuiasts... Everyone checking out the rides, talking over the odd beer or two... At this second stop, things were a little tougher. Clutch droppping burn outs, window rattling throttle blipping.. The mixture of people started to favor the harder core. This is where the Hell's Angels colours started appearing in force. The third stop- a bar on the side of the road in some nameless town- was even less congenial. There was a lot more alcohol consumed, and a lot more of that stereotypical Sturgis behaviour. For me, the really interesting bit was on the ride there. The Road King broke down, and we had to stop at a one pump gas station to wrench. I have never taken an extended ride with Harleys where there _wasn't_ a little wrenching, frankly, so this did not surprise me greatly. Some stereotypes are more based in fact than others. (The girlfriend found it riotously funny, though, that the big tough Harley was so fragile. And she did notice that I kept the PC running throughout the stop as a sort of quiet commentary on relative build quality.) The Road King had shaken it's exhaust loose on the ride. The Road King rider had no tools with which to fix it. Between the rest of the Harley riders, however, there were enough tools squirrled away in nooks and crannies and little leather pouches to run an actual bike shop... So he was set to rights pretty quickly. (The FLH rider, in particular, was amazingly well equipped. Of course, considering the 1963 vintage of his bike, I suppose this was to be expected- and I should point out that the old FLH didn't even crack a sweat during this ride. That thing is built like a tank.) The final stop was BeeBee town. BeeBee town is- literally- an interection fronted by a bar and a feed store. It only exists to service the outlying farms. This is where things got ugly. The bikers parked where they wanted, ignoring the protests of the buisness folks. They engaged in wheelies and burnouts- managing to blanket the entire block in choking burnt rubber. They drank and urinated with abandon. They littered the tarmac with crushed bottles and cans. I felt very uncomfortable, and I noticed that the non Harley contingent had totally vanished... And that the weekend warriors had been replaced by utterly sterortypical biker trash. The guys with the beat up hogs. The guys in neck braces, strapping canes to their fenders. It was on that leg of the trip that the fight began. The Road King tried to race the Buell. The Buell rider played with him for a bit and then settled back into a sedate pace. (The Road King rider, when we stopped at Beebeetown- boasted at having kept up with the Buell in the straights. The Buell rider glared at him. It was clear to everyone that he had only been playing, and that the King would not have even been in the same square mile, had the Buell rider pushed it. It was also abundantly clear that the Road King rider was turning into a drunken nozzle, by that point.) As we left Beebeetown, the King attempted to race the Buell again. The Buell rider wouldn't play. So he goaded the FLH rider. They exchanged "fingers" and pulled off to the side. A fight ensued, broken up by the rest of us. When we made it back to Westfair, everyone was sullen and ill humored. Back to general comments... We had a great time. The PC ran perfectly, and showed surprising gumption. (I had never run out of throttle before. Never run so hard that I had to kick down two gears to accelerate farther. I was afraid that I would leave the transmssion in a pile. No chance.) However... At trip's end, I was very upset with our group. The husband and wife team- on matching bikes- was genteel to the end- Midge and husband. And I will ride with them again, at any time. The Buell rider was fun to play with. I will ride with him again. But the Road King and FLH riders were assholes... And they totally destroyed that nice group feeling. Kendall Gray 95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Loess Hills rally report (long) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:17:42 -0400 Kendall, Your ride report was both entertaining and familiar in a way. Seven years ago, a local Honda shop owner and I were going on a ride to our favorite motorcycle-only campground in north Georgia. It's a very friendly place run by a nice retired couple...and now their kids...that frequently has several hundred pass through on a given pretty weekend. Never had a single problem there in 9 years of going. On this particular trip there, yes. A friend of my Honda buddy's would join us and he'd invited a couple along,too. That had to be the most tiresome ride I've ever been on. At the gathering point for the trip (my house), I noticed that the couple's bike chain was dry and starting to get that fine coating of red rust dust on it. The fellow smugly said it'd be okay. I offered chain lube from my shop - he declined. At the first gas stop, I was approached, "Hey, man! Got any chain lube I can use?" I worried more for the safety of his passenger than the chain so I lent him my small can that I had in my tank bag. This routine went on for two days. When the can was nearly empty, he even commented that I needed more!!! "Do we need a good map?". No, they insisted on following the one drawn on a napkin by an old man at the camp. We got lost. Them,"Where's that good map you said you had?" Me, "Need anything from the store?" Them," No." (Later) - "Got any shampoo?" >From the start, the guy I'd never ridden with, insisted on riding right beside me. Three feet beside me! The whole way to the first gas stop. I explained the dangers of doing so - lack of maneuverability in the lane, riding in my blind-spot,etc... He was hearing me but, obviously not listening. Up the road, he was elbow to elbow with me and ignore my motioning to either speed up back off. It wasn't until I "accidently" crowded him near the white line (6 feet of emergency lane left) that he got the message. I could go on. The lesson we both learned can be summed up by the first words out of the mouth of a motorcycle safety instructor friend that was already at the campground. {He surveyed the small group I'd ridden in with: Mr. No chain lube in the salad bowl helmet, tank-top and shorts on the fuel-injected Kawasaki. The Honda shop owner's friend in an unbuttoned flannel shirt and shorts astride a Goldwing that'd seen better days. And my dealership friend and I in full leathers on meticulously maintained bikes.} He leaned over and plainly said, " Know who you ride with, Eddie. Know who you ride with." Words to live by. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Thanks - TGNEFCTY2K To: PC800 LIST I want to send out a big THANKS for all who came to The Great New England Fall Color Tour 2000. The weather was great, the traffic light, - the view - what a view! I enjoyed having you all ride, at different stages and places. Thanks to Chris Russell-Wood for coming up, John Quinn for coming down and Tim Davies for coming over. Bill, a Winger, who traveled with us, just passed this on to me.. Thanks for the great ride. Your PC group seemed like a bunch of good guys. When you were in the museum, a couple were looking at your bike. They saw your "body by Tupperware" (decals)and the woman said "I wonder what that means". The husband said "that just means that it's dishwasher safe" ;-). People say the strangest things. ------- gotta cover the bike and go to bed... I'm BEAT! don't forget www.yankeebeemers.com (this sunday) and www.limerock.com (oct 14th) ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen - for there will be a quiz)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts YES the ride - come to the ride - yeah you, the one with the funny-lookin bike... http://swis.nmhschool.org/~ccarstanjen/pc800fall.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 20:47:30 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Cold Weather Riding Gear? To: hpdrifter68@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) hpdrifter68@hotmail.com writes: > > Does anyone have any experience with Widder Vs. Gerbing - and the >advantage of a jacket liner vs. a vest. I already have a riding suit with >zip in quilted winter lining. > > > > Bill Lucek > '97 PC - DreamWeaver > > '...My course is as elusive as a shadow across the sky' I've had Gerbing's Ultimate jacket, Ultimate pants, gloves, and socks since October of 1998 and love the warmth! Someone mentioned not getting enough heat from his Widder, I rarely can turn my Gerbing up full because there is so much heat. The only times I need it on full is when I'm doing 65-75 mph and the temp is in the low 40's to high 30's. I avoid motorycling when the temp hovers around the freezing mark because of ice on the roads. My suit puts out a lot of heat, but not nearly enough to melt the road ice ahead of me at I ride:-) I just used all these items this weekend at various time during the Great New England Fall Colors Tour. I saw several shivering participants, but I was not one of them. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:59:51 EDT Subject: PC800: Many thanks to Cristoffer for the Great New England... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Fall Foliage Tour this weekend. It was a great success! It was nice to see some old friends and new while riding the PC through the Berkshires. Since Cris ordered the spectacular weather we had, I'll let him tell you all about it.... Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:23:20 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:22:00 -0500 Whatta Day!!! Thanks to Mark Gilb for setting things up for a great ride. The twisties were challenging and the scenery was first-rate. And what a group to ride with! Y'know, if God decided to start over with the human race, I'll bet he'd start with PC riders! Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:41:47 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Cc: "Francois Saint Laurent" , Subject: PC800: DGY2K Ride Report (Longish) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:46:05 -0500 Importance: Normal Greetings Coasters! I'm back from a 1300 mile round trip to Deals Gap on the North Carolina-Tennessee border. Here's a quick report on my part of the trip. Francois and Kenneth are still there, staying through Tuesday. (Last I heard Saturday they were going to put their PCs up on the Dyno! Put me down for 48.5 hp in the pool.) Last Wednesday morning I met Francois Saint Laurent at the Hinsdale oasis on 294. We traveled a fairly direct route, 294/80 to 65 to 64 to 75 to 129. We encountered little construction or traffic. We kept the speed at about 80 most of the way. My new Chatterbox made the trip much more enjoyable as I was able to listen to CDs through my Discman, and to communicate via CB. (As a side note, Chatterbox was absolutely a pain. First headset they sent was bad. They wouldn't send a replacement unless they received the return or unless I bought another unit, which they promise to credit. They wouldn't reimburse me the rush shipping charges. I have to pay for return shipping. In general their customer service was terrible. Furthermore the quality of their product seems to have degraded. In examining the pins on my connectors to those of Francois's older ones, it appears they have gone from brass to something very flimsy and easily bendable. This was also the experience of a couple we talked to later who had, like I, bent their pins. Price is right, but you get what you pay for, more or less.) We got to Maryville right before sunset and spent the night at a Holiday Inn. Later the next morning we got to the fabled Route 129. The 129. Deals Gap. The Tail of the Dragon. Well, let me tell you. A simple novice from a flat state was intimidated. The first part is pretty gentle. The second part can be pretty intimidating. Reminded me of the feeling I had going down a double diamond ski run out west. Lots and and lots of turns. Decreasing radius. Blind ones with daffy 18 wheelers straying over the line. You gotta be comfortable leaning. Well, needless to say, after some encouragement via CB, Francois beat me down to Rob and Leslie's Deals Gap Motorcycle Resort. Nonetheless, I made it down without incident, although my speed was an indicator of my comfort level. (It's not true that joggers were passing me!!). I was definitely more aware of what I needed to do: LEAN MORE. The resort is all the rage with bikers from everywhere. Quite a few folks were camping in the campground. Others like us, took advantage of the rooms. And the gas station was catering to bikes dawn to dusk. I don't think I saw less than 6 bikes in the lot at any time. On weekends they get up to a 1000 through the station! Some stop for directions. Others for gas. All want to talk. The resort itself is a tad rustic, but Rob and Leslie are already hard at work in upgrading it from it's previous condition. Rooms are clean and simple. Sport Touring Accessories is right there and you can easily pickup stuff you need or stuff you want. (They have many t-shirts. A favorite was a takeoff on Deals Gap: Ride Illinois - 318 miles, 11 curves!) Rob and Leslie are friendly and attentive. Francois and I joined Rob in his SUV as he picked up his daughter, Heather, from the Maryville airport. Francois particularly enjoyed the gap from a 4 wheeler! : ) We hooked up with Kenneth Winter at the airport, on his PC, and then all went out for a quick lunch. When we returned, Francois and I fielded questions from the crowd of curious about PCs and were soon joined by Kenneth. When he arrived, he said he was able to locate us by looking for the crowd. Kenneth's enthusiasm for the Gap was infectious and Rob joined Francois and Kenneth for a late afternoon cruise through the Gap. I stayed back and shot the breeze with an ever changing group of riders. Later, I realized that Kenneth and Co.'s idea of a cruise was a tad more sprightly than I could have handled. Their speed was in the 40s and 50s. Friday morning we took a ride to Fontana for breakfast. The road was gorgeous!! Less extreme than Deals Gap (but then again what isn't?), it had gentle sweepers and stunning scenery. After breakfast with other bikers we met at the resort, we headed back to the resort where we were met by two test drivers from Marysville, Ohio - Honda. They were testing two 2001 Goldwings at the Gap. Gorgeous!!! Both in glorious '94 black. Sleeker than the old Wings. Comparable, but beefier than the BMW K1200 LT. The test drivers said that the bikes had great clearance and negotiated the Gap easily and comfortably. With 1832 ccs, ABS, and every conceivable gadget known to man, I didn't doubt them. While they didn't take me up on my offer to give them a less experienced rider's perspective, we did all took turns sitting on them and taking pix. (I think I did hear the dark side calling!) It is huge, but seemed to have a low center of gravity and balanced well. Seat was lower than we anticipated. To Francois and Kenneth's disappointment they didn't come with the chrome doughnut holders. After the Goldwings took off, Francois and Kenneth mounted the Sierra antennae bracket to Ol' Black Magic. The CB transmitted much better with the antennae actually mounted! I loaded up and we headed back up the Gap. This time I felt more confident and pushed the envelope. I must have gotten it up to a whopping 35! (Seriously, some of the more experienced riders/racers were pushing their respective envelopes with speeds, at points, near or over 100! Rob says that there's at least one wreck a week; with a couple of fatalities a year. I am glad to say I stayed well within my limits and comfort level and as a result look forward to my next visit. Ol' Black Magic was glad in not having contributed to the Oh-Oh Tree!!) Kenneth suggested a short cut through The Smokey Mountain Parkway with me in mind. Gentle sweepers, stunning scenery. We stopped at Vista points and took pics and I had a blast. I envy Ken and others who live in the area and can play here year round. After lunch in Maryville, Francois and Ken went back for more and I returned the way I had come, spending the night in Lexington Friday. I was home in Illinois for an early dinner Saturday with the family. It don't get better than that! One final note: Francois and Kenneth were so much fun, and were so patient and gracious with this novice flatlander that I have to express my heartfelt thanks to them!! Anyone who has an opportunity to ride with them is lucky indeed! So, as talk of Spring rides continue through the cold months ahead, I'd encourage all to consider a pilgrimage to the Mecca of Motorcycling. You won't regret it. Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois return=20 or unless I bought another unit, which they promise to credit.  = They=20 wouldn't reimburse me the rush shipping charges. I have to pay for = return=20 shipping. In general their customer service was terrible.  =20 Furthermore the quality of their product seems to have degraded.  = In=20 examining the pins on my connectors to those of Francois's older ones, = it=20 appears they have gone from brass to something very flimsy and easily=20 bendable.  This was also the experience of a couple we talked to = later who=20 had, like I, bent their pins.  Price is right, but you get what you = pay=20 for, more or less.)
 
We got = to Maryville=20 right before sunset and spent the night at a Holiday Inn.  Later=20 the next morning we got to the fabled Route 129.  The = 129.  Deals=20 Gap.  The Tail of the Dragon.  Well, let me tell you.  A = simple=20 novice from a flat state was intimidated.  The first part is pretty = gentle.  The second part can be pretty intimidating.  Reminded = me of=20 the feeling I had going down a double diamond ski run out west.  = Lots and=20 and lots of turns.  Decreasing radius.  Blind ones with daffy = 18=20 wheelers straying over the line.  You gotta be comfortable=20 leaning.   Well, needless to say, after some encouragement via = CB,=20 Francois beat me down to Rob and Leslie's Deals Gap Motorcycle = Resort. =20 Nonetheless, I made it down without incident, although my speed was an = indicator=20 of my comfort level.  (It's not true that joggers were passing = me!!). =20 I was definitely more aware of what I needed to do: LEAN=20 MORE.
 
The = resort is all=20 the rage with bikers from everywhere.  Quite a few folks were = camping in=20 the campground.  Others like us, took advantage of the rooms.  = And the=20 gas station was catering to bikes dawn to dusk.  I don't think I = saw less=20 than 6 bikes in the lot at any time.  On weekends they get up to a = 1000=20 through the station!  Some stop for directions. Others for = gas.  All=20 want to talk.  The resort itself is a tad rustic, but Rob and = Leslie are=20 already hard at work in upgrading it from it's previous condition.  = Rooms=20 are clean and simple.  Sport Touring Accessories is right there and = you can=20 easily pickup stuff you need or stuff you want.  (They have many=20 t-shirts.  A favorite was a takeoff on Deals Gap:  Ride = Illinois - 318=20 miles, 11 curves!) Rob and Leslie are friendly and attentive.  = Francois and=20 I joined Rob in his SUV as he picked up his daughter, Heather, from = the=20 Maryville airport.  Francois particularly enjoyed the gap from a 4=20 wheeler!  : )  We hooked up with Kenneth Winter at the = airport, on his=20 PC, and then all went out for a quick lunch.
 
When = we returned,=20 Francois and I fielded questions from the crowd of curious about PCs and = were=20 soon joined by Kenneth.  When he arrived, he said he was able = to=20 locate us by looking for the crowd.  Kenneth's enthusiasm for the = Gap was=20 infectious and Rob joined Francois and Kenneth for a late afternoon = cruise=20 through the Gap.  I stayed back and shot the breeze with an ever = changing=20 group of riders.  Later, I realized that Kenneth and Co.'s idea of = a cruise=20 was a tad more sprightly than I could have handled. Their speed was in = the 40s=20 and 50s. 
 
Friday = morning we=20 took a ride to Fontana for breakfast.  The road was = gorgeous!!  Less=20 extreme than Deals Gap (but then again what isn't?), it had gentle = sweepers and=20 stunning scenery.  After breakfast with other bikers we met at the = resort,=20 we headed back to the resort where we were met by two test drivers from=20 Marysville, Ohio - Honda.  They were testing two 2001 = Goldwings at the=20 Gap.  Gorgeous!!!  Both in glorious '94 black.  Sleeker = than the=20 old Wings. Comparable, but beefier than the BMW K1200 LT.  The = test=20 drivers said that the bikes had great clearance and negotiated the Gap = easily=20 and comfortably.  With 1832 ccs, ABS, and every conceivable gadget = known to=20 man, I didn't doubt them.  While they didn't take me up on my offer = to give=20 them a less experienced rider's perspective, we did all took turns = sitting on=20 them and taking pix.  (I think I did hear the dark side = calling!)  It=20 is huge, but seemed to have a low center of gravity and balanced = well. =20 Seat was lower than we anticipated.  To Francois and Kenneth's=20 disappointment they didn't come with the chrome doughnut=20 holders.
 
After = the Goldwings=20 took off, Francois and Kenneth mounted the Sierra antennae bracket to = Ol' Black=20 Magic.  The CB transmitted much better with the antennae actually=20 mounted!  I loaded up and we headed back up the Gap.  This = time I felt=20 more confident  and pushed the envelope.  I must have gotten = it up to=20 a whopping 35!  (Seriously, some of the more experienced = riders/racers were=20 pushing their respective envelopes with speeds, at points, near or over=20 100!  Rob says that there's at least one wreck a week; with a = couple of=20 fatalities a year.  I  am glad to say I stayed well within my = limits=20 and comfort level and as a result look forward to my next visit.  = Ol' Black=20 Magic was glad in not having contributed to the Oh-Oh Tree!!)  = Kenneth=20 suggested a short cut through The Smokey Mountain Parkway with me in = mind. =20 Gentle sweepers, stunning scenery.  We stopped at Vista points and = took=20 pics and I had a blast.  I envy Ken and others who live in the area = and can=20 play here year round. 
 
After = lunch in=20 Maryville, Francois and Ken went back for more and I returned the way I = had=20 come, spending the night in Lexington Friday.  I was home in = Illinois for=20 an early dinner Saturday with the family.  It don't get better than = that!
 
One = final=20 note:  Francois and Kenneth were so much fun, and were so patient = and=20 gracious with this novice flatlander that I have to express my heartfelt = thanks=20 to them!!  Anyone who has an opportunity to ride with them is lucky = indeed!   
 
So, as = talk of=20 Spring rides continue through the cold months ahead, I'd encourage all = to=20 consider a pilgrimage to the Mecca of Motorcycling.  You won't = regret=20 it.
Michael Prapuolenis
'94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic
Wheaton, Illinois

 

 
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 21:49:10 -0400 Subject: PC800: Successful Great New England Fall Tour To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) A wonderful time was had by all this past weekend at the Great New England Fall Tour organized by Christoffer Carstanjen in Turner's Falls, MA. Chris made sure the required great weather was available each of the 3 days of the event and the roads were spectacular. The whacky weather has delayed the colors for several weeks, but there was enough to let you know it was fall in New England. I'll be putting up some pictures of the weekend on the web shortly, along with all the other Coaster events I had the pleasure of attending this past year. It was great to see and ride with fellow Coasters and non Coasters alike. Looks like this may be an annual event:-) Thanks Chris. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ronecker" To: "Ralph Couey" , "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:12:14 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Y'know, if God decided to start over with the human > race, I'll bet he'd start with PC riders! > > Amen to that Ralph !!!! I can't think of anything better than spending an absolutley gorgeous day riding with fellow coasters and coasterettes. Bob Ronecker 94 PC > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:32:25 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 02:32:24 +0000 Ralph, Glad you guys had a great ride! And I'm not the least bit jealous. (He's lying!) Since your remark about God starting over, I've been trying to imagine a catastrophic event (analogous to the Flood--Noah, the ark, and all) that would only be survivable by those on motorcycles with trunks. Can't think of anything; guess I'm just not in one of my all- too-rare creative frenzies. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Couey" > To: "Pacific Coast Owners" > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:22 PM > Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride > > > Y'know, if God decided to start over with the human > > race, I'll bet he'd start with PC riders! > > > > Amen to that Ralph !!!! > I can't think of anything better than spending an absolutley gorgeous day > riding with fellow coasters and coasterettes. > Bob Ronecker > 94 PC > > > Ralph Couey > > Columbia, MO > > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:46:32 +0000 To: "Wakefield, Steve L." Cc: chiodinc@hotmail.com (Chuck Chiodini), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Fabricating broken tabs Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 02:46:32 +0000 Steve, I think Chuck Chiodini of Heber Springs, Arkansas, may be your man for this kind of work or information. I have heard that he is a wizard at fixing broken tabs. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > What material should I use to fabricate a new forward tab on the right side > cover? Perhaps the question should be what material is the right side cover > made of, and what is a readily available source of this material? > > SWake > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G1S8CR02.EBF; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:00:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Ralph Couey" , "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:58:40 -0500 Lance made it home shortly after 9:00pm, and I made it shortly after 9:30pm. Total miles ridden in 32 hours = 575. Since I have to be at work in 9 short hours, I'll keep this brief. Thanks to Mark, for a good event. Not sure there were enough twisties though on the ride. I still think we should have banished Ralph to one of those pits at Fort Des Chartes. (Note I didn't mention "throwing" him in....) :-) And as always, ya gotta keep that Barbeque sauce off of your elbows... Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey To: Pacific Coast Owners Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride > Whatta Day!!! Thanks to Mark Gilb for setting things up for a great ride. > The twisties were challenging and the scenery was first-rate. And what a > group to ride with! Y'know, if God decided to start over with the human > race, I'll bet he'd start with PC riders! > > > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:57:49 +0000 To: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: K555 and rubbing - '89 riders only Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 02:57:49 +0000 Steve, This is not quite what you are asking about - I have a K177, not the K555. It is the stock size: 140/80-15. I have put nearly 10,000 miles on it, mostly riding by myself, but quite a few miles riding double; most recently a trip about 140 miles each way in the same day. I have one of those manly, muscular, mature physiques; probably should be riding a Gold Wing and eating more doughnuts! When we ride double, the PC is quite overloaded. The shocks are stock PC items, probably original with 41,000 miles on them - not too great. My PC has not given any indication of the trunk-rubbing problem, even when riding double. I think some of the '89s just do that, and others don't, perhaps. Good luck with your tire purchase! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > > As I have been lamenting, I need to get a new rear tire. In discussing it I > understand that there might be rubbing issues with the '89 and the Dunlop K555 > 140/80-15 tires. I need to get feedback from only the '89 owners what tire they > are using, and if they are using the K555 did they had a rubbing issue? Or if > they had the rubbing issue, how they surmounted the issue? If I do not use the > K555 I am looking at adding $50.00 (at least) to the cost of replacing this tire > to get the ME880 (can't find any other tire) - money I really do not have. > > Also, can someone explain what the rubbing is and where it would occur. I would > assume that it would be on the top, so would using a different size tire resolve > the issue? Any assistance in making this decision will be appreciated. This > weekend I plan to take the wheel off the bike - hopefully I will have a decision > on the tire in a short period. > > TIA > > > > > Steven Steinsapir > > '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" (shoeless) > KF6USJ - San Gabriel Valley > Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com > > If you are not part of the solution, > you are part of the precipitate. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:15:31 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Cold Weather Riding Gear? To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us, hpdrifter68@hotmail.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/1/00 5:47:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: << Someone mentioned not getting enough heat from his Widder, >> I have never known of anyone not getting enough heat out of a Widder. I wonder if perhaps theirs was not fitted right or maybe they had a problem with theirs. I could never run mine on high no matter how cold it was outside because I would soon be roasting. I absolutely loved my vest (with heated collar) and matching electric gloves when the weather turned really frosty. I left out for a ride once when it was 18 degrees outside and had an absolute BALL laughing inside my helmet at the people in the cages pointing at me and staring in disbelief. I heartily recommend one to anyone considering a heated vest. Mine worked wonderfully. Too bad that I got too fat to fit into it anymore, but Christmas is coming soon, and after all, I HAVE been a good boy this year....... Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 03:55:49 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: PC800: PC Sighting in KC Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 03:55:48 +0000 Greetings, all. Yesterday afternoon (Saturday, 9/30) at about 3:30-4:00 pm, I saw a black PC stopping at a convenience store/gas station near the intersection of Colbern Road and 291 Highway in Lee's Summit, Missouri (a suburb of Kansas City). We were on our way to a wedding, and had NO time to stop, unfortunately. Anybody on the list? I don't really think so; I know of only one black KC PC on the list, and it wasn't him - Bernie. And the rider wasn't wearing enough gear to be on a long trip, unless his gear was stashed at a house or motel nearby while he filled up. Guess I'll have to track him down and sign him up! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 00:04:28 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Know who you ride with. To: transalp1@mindspring.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu There were two guys who seemed to "get it" throughout the whole trip. One was an older gentleman who obviously had years on the road. The only way to describe his riding style was "polite". He checked his rear and side, kept a good, but not excessive pace, and would not allow the more enthusiastic riders to mess with his pattern. The other was the Buell jockey. Kendall Gray 95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 00:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 00:13:01 EDT Subject: PC800: Check out Stop & Go Kits for all tire repairs. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: Stop & Go Kits for all tire repairs. There was some talk of tire plug kits on the list recently. I'll submit this one for review and comment. Alan in Houston 89' PC Rifle +2 AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control Utopia backrest Hitch Doc GenMar risers Cycle-Mate trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 04:14:16 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: "PC800 List" Cc: "Joannie Karcher" Subject: PC800: What a weekend Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:11:19 -0500 Does it get any better than this? The New England Fall Colors Tour, DGY2K ride and the September Ride in the Midwest. I had a blast all weekend with the September Ride group. We had great weather, fun roads, good food, incredible luck (on what other ride do you get your own private FLOOR of a restaurant?) and great people. Ray and Joannie Karcher were a big help with the route and I think we may have explored virgin territory on the sides of some tires. Hopefully, the Popeye pictures turn out. Ralph got it right about PC people. This group was a mix of folks that I had previously ridden with at some time this summer and even though we had great weather, roads, food and luck, what made it fun was the people. My thanks go out to Ralph and Shirley Couey, Ray and Joannie Karcher, David Sigsbee, Rich Fenwick, Lance White (the new daddy) and Bob Ronecker for making this a great ride. Hope to see some (all) of you at the Fall Colors Tour in Arkansas later this month. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 04:18:04 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:15:07 -0500 Actually, Steve, the catastrophic event may not need to be a flood. You could eliminate a whole bunch (and we know who they are) by making every road twisty and hiding the spare parts. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 List" Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:32 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride > Ralph, > > Glad you guys had a great ride! And I'm not the least > bit jealous. (He's lying!) > > Since your remark about God starting over, I've been > trying to imagine a catastrophic event (analogous to the > Flood--Noah, the ark, and all) that would only be > survivable by those on motorcycles with trunks. Can't > think of anything; guess I'm just not in one of my all- > too-rare creative frenzies. > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > iPCRC #1044 > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ralph Couey" > > To: "Pacific Coast Owners" > > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:22 PM > > Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride > > > > > > Y'know, if God decided to start over with the human > > > race, I'll bet he'd start with PC riders! > > > > > > Amen to that Ralph !!!! > > I can't think of anything better than spending an absolutley gorgeous day > > riding with fellow coasters and coasterettes. > > Bob Ronecker > > 94 PC > > > > > Ralph Couey > > > Columbia, MO > > > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > > > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:23:03 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Lance White Subject: PC800: Twists, turns and hills in Missouri Thanks Mark for organizing such a good ride through Missouri! I was definately challenged by the 1st hour of nonstop turns, hills, hairpin curves all amist the great scenery. And the food was great! Everyone will have the check out the pictures Rich took. We did find a place and pulled off to got a picture of the Arch in the background. We had a great time and put on alot of miles. By the time I got back home, my odometer read EXACTLY 500 miles. Yesterday, at 330 miles, was the most I've done in one day (& am still sore from it). I got home at 9 and Rich got home alittle before 10. I was VERY glad to get home! I'm glad we finally met a Harley guy at the fort that liked Honda's too. Rich & I met one at Litchfield at 8pm last night who still had to ride to Kankakee. He liked our bikes too. Once you get past the ignorant ones you find that alot of Harley riders are just like us - they love the experience of riding motorcyles. At least that's what I've found here in my town & we are all welcome to ride together. Take care and ride safe - Lance 96 PC800 5700 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:45:37 -0300 To: Keith Wood , PC800 From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Who says PC's can't Wheelie ahahah that is funny (well, you might as well laugh about it.) I pop the front wheel now and then (usually to show off or to give jaded passengers an extra thrill) but I have never done it to quite that extent. Yanking the handlebars doesn't make the bike pop up; coordinating clutching with open throttle at about 6500RPM does. -dan -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:38:15 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:32:27 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride To: PC800 List Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail <20001002023225.NVIA22058.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> <003901c02c27$5a1d7300$5c9d0fce@h74678> I parted ways with the group at the Popeye statue in Chester. Seeing Popeye there standing tall (on a seven foot pedestal) gave me the strength, sans spinach yet, to go my own way. So the group turned north to look at detention facilities, and I turned south to return to Memphis. I stopped for gas at Murfreesboro, IL, and as I looked at the gas station across the street and saw an 89 PC at the gas pumps. Went over and talked to the guy about his bike and invited him to the list (yes, he had dashboard melt, but no trunk rub through or alternator failure yet). Arrived home about eight. A very public thanks to Mark for arranging a great ride. --David -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 2 Oct 00 13:02:01 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The Great New England Fall Colors Tour Thanks to Chris Carstonjen for a wonderful day in Massachusetts on the Fa= ll Color Tour. Great weather, exceptional organization, the chance to meet o= ther PC riders, and an opportunity to explore a new area all combined to make = for a wonderful ride. I'm sorry I had to head back during lunch on Mt. Greylock= =2E Hoping this will be an annual event, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" 26,500 miles 'n rollin' Silver Spring, Maryland ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Four wheel fun! - Yankee Beemer Xtra To: PC800 LIST Trade two wheels for four! Ever want to experience ultra-cool kart driving on an enclosed track not even a year old? This isn’t your father’s Oldsmobile or the go-kart of your childhood – this is much better. This Sunday after The Yankee Beemers European Motorcycle Day to Benefit the Larz Anderson Museum of Transportation http://www.yankeebeemers.org/YBemd.htm Dave Steven, co-owner and PC800 rider graciously extends an invitation to meet and run in a practice session. http://www.f1boston.com If we get at least 8 committed, Dave will get track time at f1boston.com . The time will be in the afternoon – likely 2pm. The facility is located 15-20 minutes outside of Boston in Braintree. The cost? Cheaper than you think... Anyone who is interested in riding up with me from Cape Cod – Chris (xcontrol?) Roger? Ron? I have made first contact with the Cape Cod Motorcycle Club, but don't know if that's their bag. Anyone else - where is a good place to meet up at www.mot.org ? It'd be great to meet you.. Thanks all.... ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (like a car and an onion) - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:00:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Extra 98 seat To: PC800 Cc: annreid@juno.com Since I test drove (3600 mile, 5792 K) a new Corbin on the Y2K trip both Cindy and I give it a thumbs up. I have a 98 seat for sale. It has 16000 miles on it or 27040 kilometers. Interested give me a buzz. If somebody needs to borrow it that can be done also. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail9.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 20:14:08 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: September Ride Trip Report (long) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:11:07 -0500 The September Ride to Ste. Genevieve was great fun. Participants started rolling in to the Arnold Drury Inn about 4:30 p.m. Saturday. We met on the lot at 7:00 p.m. Saturday night for a ride to Bandana's BBQ for dinner. David Sigsbee had his new Russell saddle mounted and we all got a "test sit". Judging by the oooohs and aaahhhhs, I think it's safe to say that Russell will be getting a couple of orders soon. We rode to Bandana's, only to find the place crowded and people waiting outside on benches to get in. I walked in to get our name on the list and happened to see that there was an empty table for eight. As I gave her my name, I said to the hostess "Hey, that table looks good". In the first of several strokes of dumb luck, she said OK and led us over to the table! Rich Fenwick warned us of the dangers of barbecue sauce and later, provided a fine demonstration by dipping his elbow in a plate of sauce (I think that this was unintentional, but you never know). As time slipped away, one of the waitresses came over and asked us if we could pay because our waitress was due to go home and couldn't until we paid. Must have been the two hours we spent over dinner and stories. As we were on the parking lot suiting up for the ride back, one of the fine citizens of Arnold, exhibiting the warmth and charm for which we are known, told our group that he would sure be happier if we were all riding Harleys. This was said as he, his wife and litter of kids schlepped their way over to the family Suburban. Our guess was that Harley doesn't make a nine-seater model. We had fun with it nonetheless and every white Suburban we saw became the butt of a running joke. Sunday dawned clear and bright and we met at Denny's for breakfast at 8:30 a.m. Denny's was clearly not prepared for an invasion of nine and it was about 9 before we sat down to breakfast. After the pre-ride briefing, we set out for Sandy Creek Covered Bridge Park, set at the end of 14 miles of challenging country road. We had the whole park to ourselves (more dumb luck) and explored and took what should be some great pictures. After a gas stop, we got to the serious parts. South out of Hilsboro is Hillsboro - Hematite Road, freshly blacktopped and very challenging. A right on county P provided some higher speed sweepers and fine pavement. A little more leisurely pace on the next leg into Festus, where we picked up TT and spent about 15 miles ripping through the countryside with virtually no traffic. As I stopped at one intersection, I looked back to see Rich and Ralph pumping their fists into the air, grinning like fools. Stopped at the roadside park on US 61 to collect ourselves and rode the last 10 or so miles to lunch. As we rode through Ste. Genevieve, we saw a group of Harley riders having lunch on the sidewalk (and yes, they were sitting at tables and not eating from bowls on the pavement). In a burst of enthusiasm, Ralph revved his PC and they were mightily impressed with the resultant roar. More dumb luck met us at the Anvil in Ste. Genevieve, our lunch stop. We asked for a table for nine and were led upstairs, where we had the place entirely to ourselves. The food was great and so was the service. If you get to Ste. Genevieve, stop in and enjoy. Since the ferry was out of service, we took the US 51 bridge across the Mississippi to Chester, Illinois, home of the creator of Popeye. As soon as we pulled into the roadside park, the words "photo op" were on everyone's lips. Got pictures of the Chester sign and the 7' bronze statue of Popeye and also drew some curious looks from passersby. At this point, David Sigsbee headed south to Memphis and we headed north along Ill 3 to Ellis Grove and then, via back roads, through Prairie Du Rocher and on to Fort Des Chartres. Fort Des Chartres is a 17th century fort that, 250 years ago, was on the bank of the Mississippi River. In the intervening years, the channel has changed and the fort is now inland, protected by a levee. The Illinois Historical Society has done a wonderful job of resurrecting the fort after the 93 floods and it now has a small museum (with working plumbing, Ralph), a gift shop and is manned by volunteers dressed in period costume. One of the volunteers happened upon our group as we were posing for more pictures and he turned out to be a rider too. He had a 72 Sportster (with the old LH shifter) and a vintage English bike. He was very nice and we swapped bike stories for a while in the deserted fort (more dumb luck). For our last leg, we headed down Bluff Road. The RH side of the road is limestone bluffs that were once the shore of the Mississippi thousands of years ago. As you look out to your left, you can see the floodplain and the bluffs on the Missouri side, a couple of miles away. The Illinois bluffs have been quarried by tunneling and when you ride past, you can feel the cold air blowing out of the tunnels. After 15 miles or so, Bluff Road ends at Maeystown Road and starts it's climb out of the river valley. We made a right to head to Waterloo. At least, I thought we did. I looked in the mirrors and there was no one there. I pulled off and turned around, thinking someone had some trouble when I was passed by a convoy of PCs. Hey, that's my group! Turned around again (luckily, they couldn't see how embarrassed I was) and we headed into Waterloo. We passed through Maeystown, a small community founded in the 1850s with a great one lane stone bridge. This road also provided us with a fine look of some LARGE farm machinery, some of it rather close up. Finally, we gathered in the square in Waterloo to say our good-byes and headed up Ill 3 and onto the Interstates where the group gradually split up and headed for home. Overall, a great day, Very little traffic (except for the last leg), clear skies, temps in the 80's with a nice breeze and some fine folks to ride with. Fall was in the air as the farmers were harvesting their crops and the first hints of color were showing in the trees. Mark your calendars for next year. We can try out the ferry. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:15:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Corbin seat To: PC800 After a 300 mile day Cindy said that we needed to do something about the seat. Her butt was sore. It was tough to do a 100 miles. (160 K) Cool, I just got a green light for a new seat. Let's see... Russell? Nope it's July 24th no way I would have it for the Y2K. Corbin? I give them a call and they say 5 week turn around. OK. I order the leather top with the Carbon Fiber texture and smooth vinyl sides with the red pipe to match the 98. $410 I have them ship it to Lee Barker since I had my bike shipped there. Five weeks and two days after the order Lee gives me a call and says that the Corbin has arrived. Awesome. Get to Lee's and open the box. WOW this thing is beautiful. Cindy and I install the seat. Yes, you do need a guy to kneel on top of the last bolt area on the back seat to get the bolt in. What a more perfect way to test it out by riding down the entire Pacific Coast of CA and then ride all the way home back to Minnesota. We have two thumbs up on a 3600 mile trip that included a 600 mile day. 5792/965 k for people that don't understand miles. ;-) >From what I feel and hear, Corbin and Russell makes a great seat that you can ride all day on. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:00:19 -0400 To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0400 Importance: Normal I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I would love to see what this machine has done for you. The fastest I have gone is 103mph Thanks Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:01:47 -0400 Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:01:41 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:59:34 -0700 Subject: PC800: Test - do not respond I sent a message out and did not see it come back. Is the list up and functioning? Please do not respond to the list - if you feel like responding to this message. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:08:03 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:40:24 -0400 I have seen mine hit just below 120 on the speedo. Don't know for sure how fast I was actually going. But I like to think I was doing at least 108. Bill ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? > I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I > would love to see what this machine has done for you. > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > Thanks > Chris > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:12:43 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? To: xcontrol@erols.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) xcontrol@erols.com writes: >I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am >not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I >would love to see what this machine has done for you. > >The fastest I have gone is 103mph > >Thanks >Chris 105 mph... straight line:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:27:27 -0700 How fast: 105 MPH per bike's speedometer and then later 105 MPH per Garmin GPS III+, which matched the speedometer reading. On the 4-Corner trip, Bob was running with K555 tires and thought he was doing 110 MPH, but both my speedometer and III+ indicated only 103 MPH (I was following him at the time). Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:46:30 -0400 To: xcontrol@erols.com, "PC800 Mailing List" From: Bill & Cheryl Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? At 04:59 PM 10/2/00, xcontrol@erols.com wrote: >I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am >not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I >would love to see what this machine has done for you. ................................................................................................................ I've got it up to 105 indicated, which is really about 103 on my PC. Not bad for a tall screen with stealth edging. Bill Johnson 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:52:37 -0400 I've had mine up to 115 mph for about 10 miles. I've also ridden most of the way from Augusta Maine to Bangor on I-95 at between 100 & 105 mph. Followed a Crown Vic with about 5 antanne. Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? > I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I > would love to see what this machine has done for you. > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > Thanks > Chris > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:47:01 -0400 Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:46:31 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:43:53 -0700 Subject: PC800: K555 and rubbing - '89 riders only - update - longish I want to thank everyone for their input. All of the input will help future '89 owners to understand the tire rubbing issue when they review the archives. I decided to go for it. On friday I started to take the rear wheel off and decided that: 1) I didn't have the tools necessary to accomplish the task - at least without going out and spending $100-200 for the new tools, and 2) I didn't have the mechnical fortitude to accomplish the task. I decided to take the bike Rice Honda in La Puente - their cost to replace the tire on the bike was $39.50 - much cheaper than Bert's @ $60.00. Before taking the bike to Rice, I had to pick up the new rear tire. Cycle Rider in Montclair had two K555 140/80H15 for $85 - now they have one - the price out the door was $91.00, but it was in stock and I didn't have to pay handling or shipping. Took the tire home and strapped it to the back of my bike (didn't want to chance the ride out to Montclair and back with the bald tire) and rode over to Rice. They were able to put the tire on in about 45 minutes. I had him set the shock up one twist to make sure that I wouldn't rub - but given the response I doubt that I would ever get the tire up that far in the trunk. While he had the bike up on the rack he did a complete review of my systems and checked the front tire. He noted that I am at the wear bars on the front and should replace them. He also pointed out that my brake pads were non-existant and that I had a fork seal leak. All of these items I wouldn't have seen myself. Given the amount of work, and my inexperience at working on anything mechanical, I am going to have them do these repairs. I just ordered the front tire from http://www.parts411.com. The K555F 120/80-17 was listed on their website at $71.65, but when I called the order in the price had been lowered to $66.19. With tax and shipping the total for the tire is $78.65. As soon as the tire comes in I will arrange to have Rice to the work on the bike. Since I already have the wallet opened, I will have them replace the front brakes and give the bike a tune up - get the carbs sync'd, etc. I am sure that all of this work will keep my bike humming for the next 6-12 months. I will be able to do the oil changes myself, but anything major I am going to opt out for a qualified mechanic. Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" - 27913 miles and counting Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" , "HSTA" , "cmh-moto" Subject: PC800: Tire plugging systems & CO2 cartridges. Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:06:39 -0400 On one of these lists there has been some queries about tire plugging kits. The mushroom shaped plug with co2 cartridges to inflate the tires. I let it slide by but something was nagging me and I finally remembered. There could be a problem with using the co2 to inflate your tires after plugging them. A friend of mine used one a few years ago and the sub freezing temprature of the co2 caused the valve stem seal to freeze and break. I doubt that this would happen every time or there would be a design modification, but just wanted to warn of the possibility. When we ride (on a long trip) one of us will carry the plugging kit and the other a small battery operated compressor. I have one that's about 4x6x2". Just my .02's worth Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? To: xcontrol@erols.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Fastest I have gone on my PC?... ...oh, I'd say about 200 Mhz and thats without a video accelerator card! (only 64 megs of RAM though) Peter --- xcontrol@erols.com wrote: > I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. > Just curious. I am > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe > nature of speed. But I > would love to see what this machine has done for > you. > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > Thanks > Chris > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 22:40:13 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:44:35 -0500 From: Rick Corwine To: xcontrol@erols.com CC: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? I had an opportunity to wring out my PC coming back from the PCH ride. On the way into Death Valley on hwy. 190 very loooooooong straight road, got 105 indicated on the speedo but this was a slightly uphill. Remember... Ride swift, ride safe Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" xcontrol@erols.com wrote: > > I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I > would love to see what this machine has done for you. > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > Thanks > Chris > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:49:19 -0400 Subject: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) If it has been a while since you checked the four bolts that hold the Givi rack to the rear seat you might want to take a hex wrench to them. I just found one of mine completely unscrewed and the other three at various stages of unscrewing! I was about to put the cover on for the night and noticed a shiny piece of chrome that should not have been there (easy to spot on a PC800). It was the full head of the bolt sticking out beyond the support arm of the rack. This weekend I noticed a previously nonexistent squeak in my rack when I pulled the trunk open by it. I thought it might be some loosening of the bolts since I had not even checked them since I installed the rack, probably 35,000 miles ago, but never thought I'd find a bolt completely out of its hole and waiting to fly free. Just a word to the wise... Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G1TSGL00.AGU for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:12:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:10:29 -0500 Allow me to expand on this a little.... Think of this also with *all* of the aftermarket items that are installed onto many of our bikes... Driving lights - make sure the bolts stay tight and the lights aimed correctly. Make sure the wiring stays away from the forks and is protected by an in-line fuse.. Throttle locks - make sure they are adjusted properly, and don't bind the throttle. Backrests - make sure the bolts are tight and the welds are solid. Headlamp and taillamp modulators - make sure they are wired and fused properly, and mounted in a safe place, again, keeping wiring away from the forks. Thanks to Tim for bringing this topic to our attention. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 31,700 miles HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:49 PM Subject: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... > If it has been a while since you checked the four bolts that hold the Givi rack > to the rear seat you might want to take a hex wrench to them. I just found one > of mine completely unscrewed and the other three at various stages of > unscrewing! I was about to put the cover on for the night and noticed a shiny > piece of chrome that should not have been there (easy to spot on a PC800). It > was the full head of the bolt sticking out beyond the support arm of the rack. > > This weekend I noticed a previously nonexistent squeak in my rack when I pulled > the trunk open by it. I thought it might be some loosening of the bolts since I > had not even checked them since I installed the rack, probably 35,000 miles > ago, but never thought I'd find a bolt completely out of its hole and waiting > to fly free. > > Just a word to the wise... > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: Re: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... To: PC800 Rider , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Folks, Lock washers might help... Peter --- PC800 Rider wrote: > If it has been a while since you checked the four > bolts that hold the Givi rack > to the rear seat you might want to take a hex wrench > to them. I just found one > of mine completely unscrewed and the other three at > various stages of > unscrewing! I was about to put the cover on for the > night and noticed a shiny > piece of chrome that should not have been there > (easy to spot on a PC800). It > was the full head of the bolt sticking out beyond > the support arm of the rack. > > This weekend I noticed a previously nonexistent > squeak in my rack when I pulled > the trunk open by it. I thought it might be some > loosening of the bolts since I > had not even checked them since I installed the > rack, probably 35,000 miles > ago, but never thought I'd find a bolt completely > out of its hole and waiting > to fly free. > > Just a word to the wise... > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the > excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? To: xcontrol@erols.com Cc: PC800 Mailing List Geez - I had it only up to 95 (92 really) - I'm a slow-poke. Handling felt rock solid though when slowly changing lanes on the highway, only for 5 miles though. Oh wait, there was that other extended time at Americade from Tim's ride with FSL..still 85-90ish though. cmc > xcontrol@erols.com wrote: > > > > I was just thinking about this as I rode home > today. Just curious. I am > > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe > nature of speed. But I > > would love to see what this machine has done for > you. > > > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > > > Thanks > > Chris > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (like a car and an onion) - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Givi box owner's alert... of "Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:08:52 PDT." <20001002230852.21144.qmail@web4601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:50:52 -0500 "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: > Folks, > > Lock washers might help... LockTite. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:54:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: PC800: Re: Givi box owner's alert... To: David Kelly , pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ...even better...(Locktite - Glue? - Adhesive?) --- David Kelly wrote: > "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: > > Folks, > > > > Lock washers might help... > > LockTite. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten > percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating > system. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Clearview Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:52:55 -0400 Hi folks, Received my "new" shield from Roger Prince today. Installation went with no hitch, Roger even included the original instructions. Shield had two decals stuck low towards the bottom. One came off with little effort, the second one left stickum behind. Anyone got a good method to remove the sticky mess safely? When I went to make the switch the first thing I noticed was most of the screws were miss matched. Also previous windshield switcher managed to break most of the tabs they warn you about, that accounted for the liberal amount of silicone adhesive I'd noticed. Test rode the bike after installing the shield. Protection not much different than my old Tall Hondaline, but I can look over it if needed and the High Beam indicator light doesn't reflect on it(that always annoyed me). Tom Boynton 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:02:11 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/2/00 6:09:59 PM Central Daylight Time, pkaputsos@yahoo.com writes: > Lock washers might help... or blue loc-tite Alan in Houston 89' PC Rifle +2 AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control Utopia backrest Hitch Doc GenMar risers Cycle-Mate trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:05:51 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview To: 2malcolm@rochester.rr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/2/00 7:57:24 PM Central Daylight Time, 2malcolm@rochester.rr.com writes: > Anyone got a good method to > remove the sticky mess safely? Try any of the citrus based cleaners. You can get them at Wal-mart, etc. This cleaner is great for removing the road tar from the plastic "chin" louvered area just behind the front tire too. Alan in Houston 89' PC Rifle +2 AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control Utopia backrest Hitch Doc GenMar risers Cycle-Mate trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:14:19 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu 105 two-up. Once only. Too fast for me. The passenger was adult, but rather small. 110 pounds or so. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:39:18 EDT Subject: PC800: Sony Radio (update) To: kannit@netzero.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Before I left on my trip to LA, I had installed a Sony Cassette player, per the instructions on the iPCRC web site. The only real problem I had on the little "3600 mile test ride" was that I got a lot of distortion at top volume. I thought I needed new speakers or something. Mike in Phoenix suggested running a head set jack from the rear speaker connections. Sounds like a good idea, and I may just do that when time permits. However, back to my point. My brother and I went to a few stores in LA to check out speakers. Imagine two old farts cranking up the volume in the store! Now I was willing to purchase some fairly expensive speakers to solve my problem. One salesperson at a Best Buy Store asked me if I had tried some "Bass Blockers". Never heard of such a thing. Well for ten bucks it was worth a try. Update: All but the most "modern" music comes through quite clear at full volume now. That even could be a matter of perspective. Some of that stuff sounds like distortion to me anyway. At Best Buy you won't find the Bass Blockers on display, you have to ask the installation department for them. Might be worth a try for anyone having the same difficulty. They install fairly easy in series with the Pos speaker wires, one on each speaker. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:47:19 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview To: 2malcolm@rochester.rr.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) 2malcolm@rochester.rr.com writes: > Anyone got a good method to >remove the sticky mess safely? > >Tom Boynton >89PC800 WD-40 works great on a soft cloth to remove the residual stickum. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AEB15F9C01E0; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:04:33 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:55:27 -0400 105 for me too..... it would have done more but was was running out of straight road. [[Off the subject but my riding buddy done 135 on his ST with no grunt whatsover..... he just got scared and let up!]] Michael 1997 PC800 17,000 miles ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PC800 Rider" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:12 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? > xcontrol@erols.com writes: > >I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am > >not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I > >would love to see what this machine has done for you. > > > >The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > 105 mph... straight line:-) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A74912FD01AA; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:41:13 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: front brake pads Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:32:05 -0400 Which brand of brake pads are you guys using the most? Hondaline or another brand? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:53:59 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:53:59 EDT >From: "MTW" >......at between 100 & 105 mph. Followed a Crown Vic with about 5 antanne. > >Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 > > Better then it following YOU with lots of neat flashing lights!! Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:06:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Four wheel fun! - Yankee Beemer Xtra Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:04:23 -0500 After checking out the link to F1Boston, I wish I had the time to run up and join in on the fun. Looks like a blast. It looks like the practice run will be about $20 to $25. I would do that. :-) My son has a kart that burns methanol and will do better than 50 mph with a Briggs&Stratton 5 horse engine. It is hoot to sit about 2 inches off the ground and to go 50 mph and turn as had as you can. I have had his kart up on 2 wheels so be careful and have a ball. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Christoffer Carstanjen" Dave Steven, co-owner and PC800 rider graciously extends an invitation to meet and run in a practice session. http://www.f1boston.com If we get at least 8 committed, Dave will get track time at f1boston.com . The time will be in the afternoon - likely 2pm. The facility is located 15-20 minutes outside of Boston in Braintree. The cost? Cheaper than you think... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:02:56 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com>, "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview -- sticky mess! Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:09:21 -0500 Anyone got a good method to remove the sticky mess safely? 3 things... "GooGone" available at most any department (Wal Mart, etc) store or craft store. Peanut butter... ????.....Yea, it really does work! Later you can even use it for your sandwich!! 8-) Veggie Oil - from your kitchen. My choice is the GooGone. "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com>, "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:17:12 -0400 Goo Gone works well. Mike Whited > Anyone got a good method to remove the sticky mess safely? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Michael D. Linkous" , "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: front brake pads Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:34:20 -0400 > Which brand of brake pads are you guys using the most? Hondaline or another > brand? I replaced my stock Honda pads @ 36,000 miles. I still had a little less then half the pad left but I've never gone that far on a set before and got nervous. I replaced them with Dunlop-pads. Man, they did they improve the breaking on the PC. I replaced them after 25,000 miles . These pads were shot. I couldn't find another set of Dunlop-pads locally so I replaced them with EBS pads. These work more like I remember stock, but they are slightly noiser. So EBS seems to work as well as stock, the're noisier and cost about $20 less. I can't attest to milage yet. Dunlop-pads are great! Best pads I ever used in 30 years and 250,000 miles (of course my 1st bike didn't have disk breaks!) If I new what I know now, I would of been a little more aggressive in looking for them. Hope this helps, Mike Whited '94 PC800 Columbus Ohio ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:32 PM Subject: PC800: front brake pads > Which brand of brake pads are you guys using the most? Hondaline or another > brand? > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:25:12 -0400 Tom, A little WD40 on a soft cloth should remove the adhesive from your windshield. Alcohol might attack any anti-scratch coating present. As for the High Beam indicator lamp, I found a blue strip of decal-like material in the office junk drawer and cut out a piece the approximate size/shape of the indicator. I then placed it on the instrument panel over the lamp. There is enough illumination to see when it's on high without a lot of nighttime glare and unintentional Heads-Up-Display action going on. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:26:34 -0400 Be mindful of citrus based cleaners on un-clearcoated paint. It can remove more than sticky stuff. =) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:11:06 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) I suggest that you consider Naphtha -- it's sold in the hardware store for about $1.50 and is recommended by Cycle World Magazine. It's a slow absorbing solvent that doesn't do damage to any finish -- some people market this material at triple the price under the trade name Goo Gone. I've tried WD-40 and 39 other materials that underperformed the way this one works. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:19:01 -0500 "Re: PC800: Givi box owner's alert..." (Oct 2, 6:10pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Givi box owner's alert... Wow, Deja vu all over again. Remember when you had to do this sort of drill (checking all the fasteners) at least once a week on the WHOLE BIKE, lest something come adrift on the road? Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Harvey Sattin To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Naptha is also known as Lighter Fluid. The same stuff you put in a Zippo. Best stuff for removing them stickies. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com To: PC800 Sent: October 3, 2000 12:11:06 PM GMT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview I suggest that you consider Naphtha -- it's sold in the hardware store for about $1.50 and is recommended by Cycle World Magazine. It's a slow absorbing solvent that doesn't do damage to any finish -- some people market this material at triple the price under the trade name Goo Gone. I've tried WD-40 and 39 other materials that underperformed the way this one works. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:40:19 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Russell Seat for sale I have an almost brand new Russell seat set for sale to a buyer who is 6' 0" tall, 230 lbs, and has a 30" inseam. I bought this seat from Russ Vernon a couple of weeks ago. He ordered it in February, and by the time it arrived he had ordered a new BMW. He put about a month on it, and I've put two weeks. It is not as comfortable as I'd like. The cup in the seat is too far forward for me. According to Ken at Russell, there is no hope for a refit; the only answer is a custom seat built to my lanky dimensions. (I'm 6'3" and 200 lbs). The seat is black with a grey velour top. It comes with a matching rear seat. There is a teeny tiny nick in the vinyl at the very bottom on the right of the rider's seat, where the vinyl is pulled around the seat pan. This is apparently shipping damage because Russ didn't mention it to me when he sold it to me. Other than that, the seats are in brand new condition. There may or may not be a rain cover available; Russ is still looking for it. So, this very pretty piece of sewing is on the market AGAIN. I paid $300 for it, freight included, and it'd be nice if we can come close to that. Available RIGHT NOW! No Wait! Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:02:41 -0400 From: Mark McCoy To: cmh-moto@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu CC: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Re: CMH-MOTO: Tire plugging systems & CO2 cartridges. MTW wrote: > On one of these lists there has been some queries about tire plugging kits. > The mushroom shaped plug with co2 cartridges to inflate the tires. > > I let it slide by but something was nagging me and I finally remembered. > > There could be a problem with using the co2 to inflate your tires after > plugging them. > A friend of mine used one a few years ago and the sub freezing temprature of > the co2 caused the valve stem seal to freeze and break. I doubt that this > would happen every time or there would be a design modification, but just > wanted to warn of the possibility. > > When we ride (on a long trip) one of us will carry the plugging kit and the > other a small battery operated compressor. I have one that's about 4x6x2". One of the guys on the KLR list took one apart and made it even smaller without the case. MMc > > > Just my .02's worth > > Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 > > Columbus Ohio > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | To remove yourself from the cmh-moto list, e-mail "unsubscribe cmh-moto" | > | in the body of a message to "majordomo@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu". | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:59:25 -0500 Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu.@fixme by mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Oct 2000 02:00:56 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:05:14 -0500 From: Rick Corwine To: Y2K rider list , PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Help! I can't stop Well, it's not like I haven't had enough of an opportunity to ride my PC this last month but I went out and put on another 1,000 miles this past weekend, that put me over 8,000 miles since Sept. 2nd. A sub plot to my Great Ride is the "I've been Everywhere Tour" go to http://www.teamstrange.com/everywhere/index.html The idea is to get a photo of your bike and official IBET banner in as many of the 92 towns in the I've Been Everywhere song. So I was out getting the last near enough towns to at least get me a finisher pin. I didn't find out about this until late this summer and then didn't think to tell the list but it's been real fun. If they do it again next year we should get a PC riders competition going, wadya think? "The ability to use leisure time wisely is the final test of civilization" Bertrand Russell Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:08:11 -0400 To: "MTW" , , "PC800 Mailing List" From: Bill & Cheryl Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? At 05:52 PM 10/2/00, MTW wrote: >I've had mine up to 115 mph for about 10 miles. I've also ridden most of the >way from Augusta Maine to Bangor on I-95 at between 100 & 105 mph. Followed >a Crown Vic with about 5 antanne. You're the brave sort, aren't you? A friend of mine followed a sheriffs car on the FL turnpike for a while at a high rate of speed. My friend got cited for speeding. Bill Johnson 89PC800 West Palm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:57:56 EDT Subject: PC800: Routine Maintenance To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers... Back in a previous lifetime, I spent several seasons as crew chief on a short-track stock car team. Each week, in the shop, we had different checklists of things to be done to the car. Some had to do with "stuff" that had happened the week before, or repairs due to on-track "disagreements", or modifications to be made. One was what we called the "baseline sheet". It was kept in one of those clear document protectors you can put into a 3-ring binder. The page inside had the list of all of the things that had to be checked, cleaned, tightened, adjusted, fondled, kicked or otherwise tended to EACH AND EVERY WEEK, REGARDLESS. Every item on the list had to be marked off (grease pencil, on the document protector, just a little check mark), or the car didn't go on the trailer. I'm currently getting ready to build one of those lists for the PC. Actually, I'll do a couple of them. One for monthly stuff, and the other for every oil change. Gotta get all the little stuff on it. Things like Tim checking the bolts for his GIVI box. Check, tighten and adjust the Randall/Reid footpeg brackets. Check the VistaCruise for binding. Wear bars on the tires (should happen every time we check pressures anyway). With a checklist, you don't miss things. And if you're reading this, you've got a computer, which means making and updating a checklist shouldn't be difficult. Riding is like racing. What you do in the shop (garage) before a race (ride) can be the deciding factor as to whether you make it back to the shop (garage) alive and in one piece. The checklist was just one other little insurance policy. The devil, as always, is in the details. Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:04:21 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Michael Linkous wrote: [[Off the subject but my riding buddy done 135 on his ST with no grunt whatsoever..... he just got scared and let up!]] Michael, you may have mis-spoken. Mayhaps you meant to say: " ..... he just got SMART and let up!" At that speed, if apprehended, he wouldn't have been cited for excessive speed. The ticket would have been for maintaining an unsafe altitude over a populated area. By the way, that wouldn't have been Emile on a borrowed ST, would it? It's easy to tell .... he'd have been standing on the pegs, facing backwards, taking photos! (but NEVER above about 105 mph!). Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 12:32:36 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Routine Maintenance To: DWilli5342@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) DWilli5342@aol.com writes: >Gotta get all the little stuff on it. Things like Tim checking the bolts for >his GIVI box. Check, tighten and adjust the Randall/Reid footpeg brackets. >Check the VistaCruise for binding. Wear bars on the tires (should happen >every time we check pressures anyway). > >Dean Williams >Springfield, OR Speaking of Randall/Reid foot peg brackets. People might want to take off the crash guard covers and check the hose clamps (if attached that way) to make sure the bracket has not started to shear the metal straps of the clamps. The type of pressure exerted on the clamps from putting pressure on the foot pegs could cut through the straps in time. This is just a thought on my part. I have not actually seen this happen with mine...yet:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:39:43 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Extenda Fenda's While they don't make Extenda Fenda's specifically for PC's, one of the ones listed might fit. http://www.pyramid-plastics.co.uk/extenda_fendax.html -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) "Callipygian" '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: Subject: PC800: Hogwash...Free Sample Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:31:35 -0400 http://www.buyhogwash.bizland.com/Free%20Sample.htm ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Routine Maintenance Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:58:15 -0700 > Speaking of Randall/Reid foot peg brackets. People might want to take off the > crash guard covers and check the hose clamps (if attached that way) to make > sure the bracket has not started to shear the metal straps of the clamps. Maybe Dean could book us in for an MRI of the bikes. Group rate, of course. Lee Bar9ker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 17:03:20 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Lance White Subject: PC800: Want to purchase... I just got my Motoport Challenger jacket ordered from Harvey (missed the matching pants - some lucky guy on this list beat me to them!) Now I want to get the following and would like to know if anyone knows if I've picked the best place/price to get them from: Clearview +3 - Sporttouring Accessories have them listed for $150. I assume they come directly from Clearview. Dual Helmet holder license plate fastner - Sporttouring Accessories for $39.95. I've seen two, Joannie had one - did you really pay $39 for this. Seems high, but I'd really like one! Trunk light kit - local Honda dealer, about $45 I'm going to go BROKE! I'll just have to keep reminding myself of all the money I'll save on PC maintenance :) Hope that we can get an IL/IN ride for Oct 28/29th going. It sounds like fun and maybe I can talk my wife into going if she'll leave our new baby girl with my mom & dad for a day :) Thanks! Lance 96 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , "PC800 Mailing List" , "Bill & Cheryl" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:04:14 -0400 > >a Crown Vic with about 5 antanne. > > You're the brave sort, aren't you? > > A friend of mine followed a sheriffs car on the FL turnpike > for a while at a high rate of speed. My friend got cited for > speeding. > > Bill Johnson > 89PC800 > West Palm There were 3 of us together. The guy in the car was well dressed and had a aura of authority about him and very well could of been some type of state authority, he had that demeanor. However he didn't seem to care that he had company. It was about 9am on a weekday and traffic was practicaly non-existant. Plus I was totally amaized at how smooth the PC ran at those speeds. I felt like I was going 75 mph. Practically no turbulance and I was in great spirits...however if the cager had picked up a microphone of cell phone that may of changed everything! Mike Whited ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill & Cheryl" To: "MTW" ; ; "PC800 Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? > At 05:52 PM 10/2/00, MTW wrote: > >I've had mine up to 115 mph for about 10 miles. I've also ridden most of the > >way from Augusta Maine to Bangor on I-95 at between 100 & 105 mph. Followed > >a Crown Vic with about 5 antanne. > > You're the brave sort, aren't you? > > A friend of mine followed a sheriffs car on the FL turnpike > for a while at a high rate of speed. My friend got cited for > speeding. > > Bill Johnson > 89PC800 > West Palm > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 16:59:24 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Hogwash Harvey Sattin wrote: > > http://www.buyhogwash.bizland.com/Free%20Sample.htm You know, this product looks and reads suspiciously similar to Simple Green. I'll have to smell it when it arrives :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: DWilli5342@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Routine Maintenance of "Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:57:56 EDT." <15.9f5cdf7.270b5c04@aol.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 21:38:59 -0500 From: David Kelly DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > Listers... [...] > Gotta get all the little stuff on it. Things like Tim checking the bolts for > his GIVI box. Check, tighten and adjust the Randall/Reid footpeg brackets. > Check the VistaCruise for binding. Wear bars on the tires (should happen > every time we check pressures anyway). Strange thing one day I was enjoying the early evening outside and kept looking at the underside of my 1998 PC wondering what looked wrong. A bolt on the centerstand was about 1/2" out. Here's a (very big) picture of the (long since tightened) bolt: http://home.HiWAAY.net/~dkelly/pc800/P0000464.JPG -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "MTW" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: front brake pads of "Tue, 03 Oct 2000 06:34:20 EDT." <001d01c02d25$7f56aac0$82e8d2cc@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 21:27:54 -0500 "MTW" writes: > > Which brand of brake pads are you guys using the most? Hondaline or > another > > brand? > > > I replaced my stock Honda pads @ 36,000 miles. I still had a little less > then half the pad left but I've never gone that far on a set before and got > nervous. > > I replaced them with Dunlop-pads. Man, they did they improve the breaking on > the PC. I replaced them after 25,000 miles . These pads were shot. Dunlop brake pads changed names recently. Dennis-Kirk used to carry them and probably has the renamed stuff. Think part of the name change had to do with their non-relationship with Dunlop Tire. Or maybe they were a Dunlop Tire Division but no longer now that Goodyear owns Dunlop. Could be worse, could be Firestone. Altho I'd be happy to put Japanese Bridgestone tires on car or bike. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:29:27 -0700 Yup! About 105 or so here as well. Around 107 the tach started to get funny! I don't know is the back tire was starting to fly or the Clutch was starting to slip? But the tach was not happy! It was a cool night and the dew point was low! It felt good!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com To: PC800 Mailing List Date: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? >I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am >not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I >would love to see what this machine has done for you. > >The fastest I have gone is 103mph > >Thanks >Chris > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 01:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 01:42:22 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: September Ride Trip Report (long) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sound's like it was a blast! Wish I was able to attend, alas I am still awaiting for the new arrival. Wife say's...SOON! LOL I look forward to the next ride! I hope we have more time to chat at the next one. later... Todd Skar 89'PC 18k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI NEWPCRC (president) PCRC#720 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 06:42:19 -0400 Subject: PC800: Great New England Fall Tour To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) If you want to find out about the great tour we had last weekend, organized by Christoffer Carstanjen (captaintupperware@yahoo.com), pick up the November issue of Rider Magazine. Clement Salvadori's article, Going to the Mountain, is almost an exact write up for our tour. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:45:10 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "pc800listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:38:07 +0100 A sustained 115mph on the speedo for 12 miles of empty motorway. (thanks to a rolling truck blockade protesting about fuel prices) Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "PC800 Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:59 PM > Subject: PC800: Fastest you have gone on your PC???? > > > > I was just thinking about this as I rode home today. Just curious. I am > > not trying to invite criticism about the unsafe nature of speed. But I > > would love to see what this machine has done for you. > > > > The fastest I have gone is 103mph > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:47:42 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: front brake pads Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:40:36 +0100 EBC with kevlar Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:32 AM Subject: PC800: front brake pads > Which brand of brake pads are you guys using the most? Hondaline or another > brand? > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: What is sufficient maintenance? ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) writes: > I spent about 15 minutes today talking with a Honda service rep about > what is actually needed at 12k on my PC. I had asked him about the > brake fluid replacement first since I felt I was the least mechanically > able to do that myself. He said "Why? Is anything wrong with the > brakes?" I said there was nothing wrong. He said it would take over > $100 to replace the fluid and it would take over a week to do it because > they had a backload of work to do (7 days+). I informed him it was in > the owner's manual that it needed to be replaced each 12k and I asked > him if it was truly needed. His response to me was to ignore it unless > I felt the brakes became mushy!!!! That is not exactly the best test > to me. Is this really true? I'm catching up on a backlog, after being away for 3 weeks. The only comments I will add, since others have already replied are: 1. Consider finding a new dealer, if you have the choice. The price and advice are both ridiculous. $100 is absurd for $3 in materials and 30 minutes of work. 2. If you live in a climate with high heat and humidity, I would advocate changing both the brake and clutch fluids at least once each year. My rule is that if the fluid is starting to show color, it's time for a change. As others have mentioned, be *very* careful not to spill any DOT4 fluid on the bodywork. Other than this caveat, it's not a difficult task, and a single $3 bottle of fluid will take you through several changes. Suck the old fluid out of the handlebar reservoir first, then pour in fresh fluid and start pumping it through the lines. Have a bottle of Dawn and a garden hose nearby to wash off spills if an accident occurs, and you get some fluid on a body panel. Time is of the essence, so you really want to have these on hand before you start, rather than going looking for them after there is an incident. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:41:37 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lou Berkley" To: "PC800 list" Subject: PC800: mail Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:39:14 -0500 I recently unsubscribed for a while, and then resubscribed on my return. Since then I have not received any mail, but the served tells me I am subscribed, is it just that inactive or is something wrong. Leonard Berkley PC800, Moto Guzzi Eldorado louberk@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~louberk/ "the weather is here I wish you were beautiful" Jimmy Buffett -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:46:34 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Russell Seat The Russell seat has been sold. Ron Kimball is the right size and weight, so he gets it. Fit apparently matters a great deal with Russell seats. Thanks to all who responded. This list is a great resource. Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Lou Berkley" Cc: "PC800 list" Subject: PC800: Re: mail From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Oct 2000 10:17:48 -0500 Lines: 15 >>>>> "LB" == Lou Berkley writes: LB> I recently unsubscribed for a while, and then resubscribed on my LB> return. Since then I have not received any mail, but the served tells LB> me I am subscribed, is it just that inactive or is something LB> wrong. You should contact the list owner with problems, not the list itself (as nobody on the list but me can check these things for you, and I read the list owner mail more often than the list mail). The problem was that you had managed to get a syntactically invalid address on the list. I have fixed the problem. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:29:54 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: mail Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:19:53 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: mail > I recently unsubscribed for a while, and then resubscribed on my return. > Since then I have not received any mail, but the served tells me I am > subscribed, is it just that inactive or is something wrong. > Leonard Berkley > PC800, Moto Guzzi Eldorado > louberk@earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~louberk/ Lou; I'll send you two seperate reply's one I'll send you directly the other through the list. Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" , "HSTA" , "cmh-moto" Subject: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:51:50 -0400 After my trial was dismissed, Mark (my witness) and I took a 5 hr bike ride through NE Ohio. When I returned I gave "woman who hit me" (WWHM)s insurance a call. They were very polite but said that they don't show her as a client. They also said that may be because the vehicle may be registered in someone elses name. It was after five so I waited until Monday to take this any further. Monday morning I call the DMV and they confirmed that WWHM is the owner of the Astro. I then call my agent and he said he would call her. Five minutes later he called back and said "she's stonewalling, I don't think she has insurance. All she would say is ""my car wasn't damaged,I gave all my information at the accident !" Well my insurance is paying to fix the bike. If she don't show proof of insurance she will have a security suspension against her and she will have her license suspended for 90 days and have to carry high risk insurance for 5 years. I will file a claim against her with the small claims court after I get my bike repaired. So far there is $1800 damage, but I found a hairline crack in my left lower trunk, so it will be more....anyway, If the court finds in my favor she will then have a judgment suspension against her and not be allowed to drive until restitution is made. No wonder she was acting so hinkey at the accident. She didn't get a ticket, but by god she won't be driving for the holidays this year either! I got the insurance check today and stopped by the shop and had all the parts ordered. I'll let you all know how this ends. Mike Whited '94 PC 800 Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. to: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Routine Maintenance of "Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:20:45 PDT." Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:00:24 -0500 Tom and Anita Humphrey writes: > David - > Nice picture, and thanks for the warning. > .....do you really use Mobil 1 5W-30 in your PC? Not the 15W-50???? > Inquiring minds want to know..... > Tom in Calif, where it gets warm..... I'll be in Death Valley Sunday. No, the red bottle of Mobil-1 is 15W-50. Blue is 10W-30, green is 5W-30. Maybe I have blue and green crossed. But the pictures are of a red label. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:18:09 -0500 From: Jeff Hopkins To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Got an '89 PC800 w/18k, new Rifle windshield w/Stealth Edging, new K & N air cleaner, Metzler Tires w/ 4k on them, garage kept, well maintained. Only reason I'm selling it is I'm used to a dresser and the PC800 is too small. Can e-mail pics to anyone who is interested. Located in Oklahoma. Asking $3250 Jeff Hopkins -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G1XIM201.2GM for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:30:02 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Fall Covered Bridges ride? (West Central Indiana) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:28:10 -0500 Hi Folks- I did some asking around during the lunch at Ste. Genevieve, and there appears to be interest in having one more ride this fall . The plan is to have it October 28th and 29th (as always... IF the weather cooperates). I took my first road trip this same weekend last year, and the weather was fabulous. The plan is to tour the Covered Bridges of Parke County, Indiana. Rockville is the county seat of Parke County, and is the center of the "Covered Bridge Festival." I am planning the ride the weekend *after* the Festival ends. Trust me, we DON'T want to be anywhere NEAR that area while the festival is running.... There are 39 Covered Bridges in Parke County, and most are still open to traffic. The area is scenic and rolling and the roads are NOT straight! There are pre-mapped and marked "routes" that we can follow to see the countryside and the bridges. I am still determining where the start point for this ride will be, to be announced in the next few days... I may end up NOT staying at home, and staying with everyone at a hotel (to be announced) so we can be closer to Parke County and the Bridges (and therefore spend less riding time getting there, and have more fun riding the County itself...) We will eat lunch on Sunday at a restaurant about 100 yards away from a restored Covered Bridge. If you are interested and available that weekend, please let me know, so I can get a feel for the interest in this. I have it about 90% planned on paper at this point. Thanks- Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:44:08 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "ROBERT FITZGERALD" To: "Revill Dunn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Russell Seat Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:44:43 -0400 I can't say enough good about the Russell seat. I have put on over 7,000 miles since it was installed. Longer the day the better it feels! Judy has a Corbin and say it get a little hard after a while. But, she kept up all the way! Bob and Judy Fitzgerald Delaware, OH 95 PC 15,000 miles "Blackie" 97 PC 24,500 miles "Little Red" Back from "The Road to The Sun" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: PC800: Russell Seat > The Russell seat has been sold. Ron Kimball is the right size and weight, so he > gets it. Fit apparently matters a great deal with Russell seats. > > Thanks to all who responded. This list is a great resource. > > Revill Dunn > Rider of Whirby > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:45:35 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "ROBERT FITZGERALD" To: "Fenwick" , Subject: Re: PC800: Fall Covered Bridges ride? (West Central Indiana) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:46:11 -0400 Rich, Sounds go to me! We will keep the date open. Bob and Judy Fitzgerald Delaware, OH 95 PC 15,000 miles "Blackie" 97 PC 24,500 miles "Little Red" Back from "The Road to The Sun" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: PC800: Fall Covered Bridges ride? (West Central Indiana) > Hi Folks- > > I did some asking around during the lunch at Ste. Genevieve, and there > appears to be interest in having one more ride this fall . > > The plan is to have it October 28th and 29th (as always... IF the weather > cooperates). I took my first road trip this same weekend last year, and the > weather was fabulous. > > The plan is to tour the Covered Bridges of Parke County, Indiana. Rockville > is the county seat of Parke County, and is the center of the "Covered Bridge > Festival." I am planning the ride the weekend *after* the Festival ends. > Trust me, we DON'T want to be anywhere NEAR that area while the festival is > running.... > > There are 39 Covered Bridges in Parke County, and most are still open to > traffic. The area is scenic and rolling and the roads are NOT straight! > There are pre-mapped and marked "routes" that we can follow to see the > countryside and the bridges. > > I am still determining where the start point for this ride will be, to be > announced in the next few days... I may end up NOT staying at home, and > staying with everyone at a hotel (to be announced) so we can be closer to > Parke County and the Bridges (and therefore spend less riding time getting > there, and have more fun riding the County itself...) > > We will eat lunch on Sunday at a restaurant about 100 yards away from a > restored Covered Bridge. > > If you are interested and available that weekend, please let me know, so I > can get a feel for the interest in this. I have it about 90% planned on > paper at this point. > > Thanks- > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > AMA - 361534 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:01:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, cmh-moto@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:01:07 CDT "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." forgot who said that but it seemed to fit in this case. Please do keep us posted. Des >From: "MTW" If she don't show proof of insurance she will have a security suspension against her and she will have >her license suspended for 90 days and have to carry high risk insurance for > 5 years. If the court finds in my >favor she will then have a judgment suspension against her and not be >allowed to drive until restitution is made. > >No wonder she was acting so hinkey at the accident. She didn't get a >ticket, but by god she won't be driving for the holidays this year either! > >I'll let you all know how this ends. > >Mike Whited '94 PC 800 > >Columbus Ohio > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:08:58 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: How many cartridges ? Update. Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:08:58 CDT Hey gang, The above thread was posted a few weeks ago and in the current edition of Motorcyclist magazine there is a photo essay on using a plugger kit. At the conclusion it states that each CO2 cartridge is good for around 5 psi. Ergo, 6 for each flat. Hummmm, guess I need a bigger tool bag. Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FKK25L9Q; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 21:20:19 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: PC800: Re: How many cartridges? From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Des, You mean I gotta carry six of them now? I only carry four. Maybe that's enough to get to a gas station. I think I'd rather carry a small compressor. It would be safer than carrying all that compressed gas, wouldn't it? ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:08:58 CDT "Desmond Cockburn" writes: > Hey gang, > > The above thread was posted a few weeks ago and in the current > edition of > Motorcyclist magazine there is a photo essay on using a plugger kit. > At the > conclusion it states that each CO2 cartridge is good for around 5 > psi. > Ergo, 6 for each flat. > > Hummmm, guess I need a bigger tool bag. > > Des, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom" <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Clearview stickum Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:25:17 -0400 Hi Folks, Thanks for all the input on removing the decal stickum from my "new" shield. I'd tried the vegetable oil,didn't seem to touch it. Took a quick inventory of what else had been suggested and what was close at hand. Remembered a container of Ronson lighter fluid I'd been saving. Don't know what I'd saved it for, never smoked. Any how the naphtha worked great. Tom Boynton 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:51:00 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server05.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 00:52:25 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:50:58 -0400 Hi everyone, I have an oil leak that is in the oil seal in the left crank case cover where the clutch lifter rod goes through. I am not having any luck obtaining the part because it doesn't appear on the micro-fische parts thing. My local dealer and Honda of Milipitas have both struck out on this one. Everyone keeps wanting to sell me the oil seal that is on the back of the clutch slave cylinder where the clutch lifter rod goes into it. It has the correct inner diameter, but it is too small in outer diameter. I was sent one of these by Honda of Milipitas. I have called them and they said they would send me the right one, but I have my doubts that the order taker was even looking at the fische when she told me this. The wrong seal that the dealers think it is has a part number of 91209-MBO-003. (I happen to have one of these that Honda of Milipitas sent me) Rich Fenwick has even been so kind as to post scanned images of the pages showing the slave cylinder and the left crank cover for me to look at, but the seal is not shown. Has anyone every replaced this seal, and if so, do you know the part number? Again, the seal I am looking for is the seal around the clutch lifter rod where it goes through the *left* crank case cover. Thanks in Advance ]Monty Shaw[ 89 Sailor Moon PS. I think it is really weird that the clutch slave cylinder is on the left side of the engine and the clutch is on the right side and the lifter rod goes all the way through the engine. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:51:04 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Freddy \"The Jarhead\" Richardson" To: "Winter, Kenneth" , "Watson Jack W PHCA" , "St. Laurent, Francois" , "Smith, Arnold" , "Sims, Darlene" , "Rossi, David" , "Pizzani, Allison" , "Olds, Dave & Rhonda" , "McMaster, Jeannie" , "Largent, Betty" , "Langston, Jack" , "Hunt, Cindy \(home\)" , "Hodges, Steve" , "Herrington, Norris" , "Hall, Grady" , "Gentry, Bobby & Lynn" , "Dube, Claude-Annie" , "Debney, Charles A." , "Cox, Robert Dewayne" , "Cotten, Randy" , "Clausen, Hank" , "Chambers, Dawn" , "Cates, Tommy" , "Bonura, Joe" , "Blalock, Vance" , "Bennett, Roy" , "Ard, Lane & Cindy" , "Abshire, Curless" Subject: PC800: The knob Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:04:42 -0500 A lady in her late 40's went to a plastic surgeon for a face lift. The = doctor=20 told her of a new procedure called "The Knob." This small knob is = planted on=20 the back of a woman's head and can be turned to tighten up the skin to=20 produce the effect of a brand new facelift forever. Of course, the woman = wanted "The Knob." Fifteen years later the woman went back to the surgeon with 2 problems. = "All=20 these years everything had been working just fine. I've had to turn the = knob=20 on lots of occasions and I've loved the results. But now I've developed = two=20 annoying problems. First of all, I've got these terrible bags under my = eyes=20 and the knob won't get rid of them. The doctor looked at her and said,=20 "Those aren't bags, those are your breasts." She replied, "Well, I = guess=20 that explains the goatee." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:33:44 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: How many cartridges? Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:34:04 -0500 You old timers don't need to read this, since you have heard it before. I went to Wal Mart and got a little compressor that runs has a cigarette lighter plug on it. I took my little phillips screwdriver and removed all the screws from the plastic body of the compressor. I used iddybiddy wire ties that I got at NAPA to tie the wires to the frame of the now iddybiddy compressor so the connections wouldn't pull loose. The whole thing now only takes about as much room as my fist and as long as I have a battery, it will never run out of air. PS. I installed a John Deere power plug so I don't have to remove plastic to get power. Before you ask, the John Deere part numbers are AL25073 for the socket and RE11344 for the plug. (Compressor was about $10, the plug and sockets are about $20) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harvey P. Sattin" > > You mean I gotta carry six of them now? I only carry four. Maybe that's > enough to get to a gas station. I think I'd rather carry a small > compressor. It would be safer than carrying all that compressed gas, > wouldn't it? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer can not be another PC800) Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:23:42 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: Cc: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:23:18 +0200 ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:53 AM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: >=20 > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? >=20 > Thank you for your response. No doubt !! A NEWER second-hand PC 800 !!!! Regards Arvid http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:28:23 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:28:09 +0200 Peter,=20 You cannot change the rules of a poll midway !! That is NOT democratic ;-) But still... I say:: A NEWER secondhand PC !!! Regards Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 89 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" GWRRA # 147178 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer My Home page is at: http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: "Arvid_Løvik" , pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu Cc: PC 800 LIST RULE: For purposes of this poll, your answer can not be another PC800. Thank you again for your cooperation and responsiveness. --- Arvid_Løvik wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:53 AM > Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond > repair, > > what would you replace it with? > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > No doubt !! > A NEWER second-hand PC 800 !!!! > > Regards > Arvid > http://lovik.tripod.com > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7E8DDF7008A; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:39:20 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:30:04 -0400 It would be a BMW K1200LT for me (although the maintenance and problems they've been having doesn't impress me) I would like a Honda X-wing (as my first choice) if they actually existed! Michael ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:19 PM Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:29:14 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pkaputsos@yahoo.com From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) 2001 ZR-7s from Kawasaki, maybe. Maybe another PC or a Concours. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: "Arvid_Løvik" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu PC800 owner loyalty and satisfaction is legendary (and rightfully so)- and there has been research that indeed documents this. However, for purposes of this poll, what I am more interested in is the mix, patterns, and trends in the alternative bike answers. Thank you again for your cooperation. --- Arvid_Løvik wrote: > > Peter, > You cannot change the rules of a poll midway !! > That is NOT democratic ;-) > > But still... I say:: A NEWER secondhand PC !!! > > Regards > > Arvid Løvik > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > 89 PC 800 "SOS" PCRC # 2 > 89 GB 500 Clubman "Kitty" > 82 GW 1100 Aspencade & HitchHiker sidecar "Goldie" > GWRRA # 147178 > 96 Bushtec Turbo + 2 trailer > My Home page is at: > http://lovik.tripod.com > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:07:35 -0700 Well, lessee.....outa my past, I'd want another 84-86 Honda CB700 Nighthawk. A real neat little snotter, another one of Honda's engineering triumphs with an exhaust note beyond description. But no cargo capacity... Hmmm....Always wanted a Suzuki VX800, nice long leggy twin, great handler, but we're into soft bags again. I'm not sure I'd get used to washing it, but I've never owned a triple and those Triumphs beckon to me from time to time. Wait. Triumph legend....nooo, my dang shanks are too long. That new W650? Nice retro repop retry. Right look, but smallish. Tim Davies would think my cerebellum had gone south of I bought a Concours, but darn they are pretty to look at, especially the red. Won't be a Lead Wing. I just don't look good in satin jackets. Something exotic. Something Baltic. A Ural. At last. Reverse, cargo space in the outrigger, quaintness, genuine eclat. Yup. A dadgum Ural. And real furry clothing to accessorize me. Mittens. The reason the Russians make so many sidecar outfits is that they need something stout to lean their buildings up against. A Ural for You know who. That's my answer, though not my final one. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "owyongsm" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:58:44 +0800 For me will be a ST1100 Robin Ow Yong 96'PC800 FN8747G ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter P. Kaputsos To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by pop.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 04:06:14 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ray" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Re life after PC800 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:07:30 -0700 Myself I feel that I would be tempted to go in two different directions. I like the Honda Goldwings for touring, but am also strongly pulled to the new Triumph Bonneville, reminds me of the one I use to ride in the 70's. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:51:39 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:51:57 -0500 ST1100 Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:56:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:56:30 -0500 BMW K1100LT Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:57:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu --- "Peter P. Kaputsos" wrote: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond > repair, what would you replace it with? I drove my CX500 for 120K miles since May 1979 through June 1998, so when I had to replace it I was pretty sure that my next bike would be my last. I finally narrowed it down to the ST and the PC, and decided in favor of the PC because of the lower seat height and the better handling in city trafic. In a little over 2 yrs. I have driven the PC 44K miles, so, contrary to my assumption, it may be possible that someday I may have to get another bike as my primary motorcycle (10 yrs. from now I'll be sixty years old and my PC may have 250K miles). I'm sure that by that time Honda will have resucitated the PC line, so I'll try to get my new "2010 PC1100" or whatever it's called then. But if I had to replace the PC right now, I'll go for the BMW R1100RT. Jesus Soriano, '95 PC "Raquel" San Diego, California. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:00:13 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:00:31 -0500 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport Rosso Mandello Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:00:56 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:01:16 -0500 The new Gold Wing. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:04:40 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:04:59 -0500 2001 Victory V92C Deluxe Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:10:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:10:36 -0500 I sure hope my PC doesn't break. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CNER@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:20:42 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dittos on the PC's bigger and more sophisticated sister on steroids - the ST1100 abs !!! Never saw one in action until Y2K ride - WOW Drool factor of 9.5 will reserve the perfect 10 till I actually ride one. Rick Sener 89 PC - Summer Snow ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter P. Kaputsos To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:46:40 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu BMW K75RT, with the largest luggage BMW makes for it. I'd still go through Tupperware withdrawals, though, even with a Givi box on the back. Rusty J. '89 PC800 - The Pale (Hoping for a Southern California Tan This Weekend) Horse Ogden UT > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM > Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > > what would you replace it with? > > > > Thank you for your response. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Desmond Cockburn" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: How many cartridges ? Update. Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:04:20 -0400 C02 cartridges can be had in quantity at Walmart. Look in the Paintball gun area. Make sure you get the correct size, though. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:08:23 -0400 What would I replace it with? If not another PC800, I'd consider a Bandit 1200. Nah. Scratch that. I really don't know. I already have my favorite bike (besides the PC). A Transalp. =) -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:04:48 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:04:46 +0200 Well, I had a PC and replaced it with a ST ABS/TCS.. If I would still have a PC now and would have to replace it and if I would have the money I'd be tempted to look at the new Yamaha FJ1300... 140hp, 520lbs, cases, adjustable windscreen and shaft drive...hmmm.... But only if it would have ABS/TCS/CBS... I wonder what Honda will bring out to replace the ST and counter that FJ... so far I'm the happiest man on earth with my current ST ABS/TCS.... but just imagine it with 40% more power and 200lbs lighter..... that FJ is gonna sell I think.. Emile www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org >From: Peter P. Kaputsos > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > > can not be another PC800) > > > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:16:26 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sheila A. Coneybeer" To: Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:12:10 -0700 FYI The quote is from Sir Walter Scott, often mistakenly attributed to William Shakespeare. Back to the shadows... Sheila A. Coneybeer Phoenix, AZ "Sometimes you gotta do the wrong thing to be in the right place..." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:01 PM Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE > > "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." forgot > who said that but it seemed to fit in this case. Please do keep us posted. > > Des > > snip, snip -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:26:42 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Ralph Wayne's Vintage Bike Show and Backyard Barbecue Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:26:25 -0500 Well, having lived in Missouri most of my life I shouldn't be surprised by this, but... On a week that started with a high of 87 degrees on Tuesday, Saturday's forecast for now shows a high temp of 38 degrees. Fahrenheit. I am concerned because this sudden change has not allowed me to acclimate to the colder weather, and while I'm fairly certain I could tolerate my 40-minute commute to work under these conditions, a two-hour ride to Kansas City might qualify under the term "foolish." I'm thinking seriously about not going Saturday unless things improve between now and then. I know some of you were planning to meet me there and I'm sorry, but I try to be a good man, and as Dirty Harry says, "A good man knows his limitations." Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:36:32 -0400 A used PC800 Mike Whited ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:53 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "cmh-moto" , "PC800" , "HSTA" Subject: PC800: Saddlesore 1000 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:58:20 -0400 With the hassles of being rearended by an uninsured yahoo, at least there's a bright side. My bike still is ridable! So just to blow off steam on Sat Oct 14th I'll be leaving Columbus around 5am to ride to Decatur Alabama. Then once I gas up I'll turn around and ride home. Why? (non-riders ask). For fun! If the weather cooperates I will have compleated my Saddlesore 1000. So on Oct 14th, If you see a lone '94 PC800 (black is beautiful) traveling on I-71 or I-65, WAVE! Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "MTW" , , Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:48:03 -0400 Oh I see changed the rules! I like Honda's I like twin cylindars I like sports touring I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > A used PC800 > > > Mike Whited > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:53 PM > Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > > what would you replace it with? > > > > Thank you for your response. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:19:56 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:19:56 EDT >From: "MTW" >She didn't get a ticket,but by god she won't be driving for the holidays >this year either! Mike, With my experience dealing with suspended drivers, if she'll drive with no insurance, she'll drive with no license also. Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:28:08 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:28:05 +0200 >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] >Oh I see changed the rules! >I like Honda's >I like twin cylindars >I like sports touring >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. Emile Dumb Dutch '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 06:33:19 -0500 From: William Drake To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu CC: PC 800 LIST Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Since we can't get another PC, I would get a Goldwing Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL "Peter P. Kaputsos" wrote: > > RULE: For purposes of this poll, your answer can not > be another PC800. > > Thank you again for your cooperation and > responsiveness. > > --- Arvid_Løvik wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:53 AM > > Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > > > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond > > repair, > > > what would you replace it with? > > > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > > > > No doubt !! > > A NEWER second-hand PC 800 !!!! > > > > Regards > > Arvid > > http://lovik.tripod.com > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:33:44 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: n1php@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: How many cartridges? Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:33:44 EDT When I had my lovely flat (rear) on the Y2K ride, I ended up only using 4 cartridges. Gave me around 20-25psi and was enough to get me to the next gas station. BTW.......I have Rodney Wright to thank for the repair kit! Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:33:49 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: n1php@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: How many cartridges? Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:33:49 EDT When I had my lovely flat (rear) on the Y2K ride, I ended up only using 4 cartridges. Gave me around 20-25psi and was enough to get me to the next gas station. BTW.......I have Rodney Wright to thank for the repair kit! Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:14:56 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Life After The PC800? NOT!! Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:14:56 EDT It would be a BMW K1200LT if I happen to win the millions! ...or a CBR1100XXX if I became single! but since neither will probably happen.... probably a ST1100 Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:19:14 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: CNER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:19:14 EDT >From: CNER@aol.com >Dittos on the PC's bigger and more sophisticated sister >on steroids - the ST1100 abs !!! >Never saw one in action until Y2K ride - WOW ya...but its too bad that the rider on the ST1100 at the Y2K didnt really know how to ride it! ;-) Greg Castle 89 PC800 "The Canuck" Keswick,Ontario,CANADA PCOR # 442 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:38:06 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: This is not an easy choice. I've come to think of the PC800 as one of the best bikes ever made. Why would I let my PC die? Oh well, If I should ever have to get another bike I would have to evaluate what was on the market at the time and my needs. Right now I would narrow the list to: ST1100 Ural Deco Goldwing aka Hondabeggo depending on reliability maybe a BMW K1200LT and if one is being made a PC900.... Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" "All of my life was a laugh and a joke and then I passed out on the floor, again and again and again" Alice Cooper In a message dated Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:54:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: << INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:42:33 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: How many cartridges? Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:42:33 CDT >From: "Harvey P. Sattin" > >You mean I gotta carry six of them now? I only carry four. I was considering digging out an old shotgun shell bandolier and filling the loops with CO2 "cartridges" ! I use a padded camcorder case as a tool bag, like all those little pockets to carry little stuff in, and think I could carry an even dozen without crowding it any. Besides, I bought two 6 packs of Daisy CO2 cartridges and they come in a flat box. Better too many than leaving the bike on the side of the Road. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:45:02 -0500 "PC800: ....Life After The PC800" (Oct 4, 7:53pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 On Oct 4, 7:53pm, Peter P. Kaputsos wrote: > Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? That's the problem when you finally work your way all the way to the top. Everywhere else is downhill! Having finally adjusted to the power output of the PC and the occasional doofus who insists that it's a scooter (It's not a scooter, it's a Spaceship!), I can't imagine a ride that I'd appreciate as much. Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:51:18 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:01:07 CDT > >"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." forgot >who said that but it seemed to fit in this case. Sir Walter Scott, poet and novelist. http://scottishculture.about.com/culture/scottishculture/library/blquotesf.htm :-) Christopher Scott Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:55:28 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: I finally happened, UPDATE >>From: "MTW" >If she don't show proof of insurance she will have a security suspension >against her and she will have >>her license suspended for 90 days and have to carry high risk insurance for >> 5 years. If the court finds in my >>favor she will then have a judgment suspension against her and not be >>allowed to drive until restitution is made. >> >>No wonder she was acting so hinkey at the accident. She didn't get a >>ticket, but by god she won't be driving for the holidays this year either! A sobering reminder of the flotsam and jetsam of humanity who drive on our roads ... Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 5 Oct 00 08:57:43 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [PC800: .....Life After The PC800] CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu That would depend if I was on it when it died and went beyond repair. :-)= = Probably an ST1100 or Concours. Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, Maryland "Peter P. Kaputsos" wrote: INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer can not be another PC800) Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:09:34 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800/ What will be it's undoing ? Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:09:34 CDT >From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" >INFORMAL POLL: > >Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, >what would you replace it with? Today, at this very minute, an R1100RT or a CBR1100XX Blackbird and these two only because Honda has yet to refine the ST1100. This also brings up another topic, what will be the end of the PC ? How many PC's are still rolling around the world ? Enough for the only two tire manufacturers who make these odd sized tires to continue to make them ? Engine and frame parts should not be a problem for quite a few years yet but how about the plastic parts ? Des, Okmulgee, Okla. 95 PC, Dream Weaver "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nichols" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:13:43 -0500 Dear Listers: I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider = course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud = owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can = get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. =20 We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me to = get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to make = sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. Note: I = am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking = for to learn on? Your input is appreciated. Leticia Nichols Ford Taurus we ought=20 to be looking for to learn on?
 
Your input is appreciated.
 
Leticia Nichols
Ford Taurus
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:18:11 +0000 To: "Ralph Couey" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Ralph Wayne's Vintage Bike Show and Backyard Barbecue Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:18:10 +0000 Ralph, I just checked the Yahoo forecast for KC for this Saturday. It says low 30, hi 50, and both partly cloudy and clear, whatever that means. Sounds pretty chilly, but quite survivable for those of us already here in the city. I hope it warms up a bit and you can still make it. Anyone else thinking of showing up? I've been hoping that there might be interest in a ride on some pretty nice roads out east of KC in the afternoon. Any takers? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > Well, having lived in Missouri most of my life I shouldn't be surprised by > this, but... On a week that started with a high of 87 degrees on Tuesday, > Saturday's forecast for now shows a high temp of 38 degrees. Fahrenheit. I > am concerned because this sudden change has not allowed me to acclimate to > the colder weather, and while I'm fairly certain I could tolerate my > 40-minute commute to work under these conditions, a two-hour ride to Kansas > City might qualify under the term "foolish." I'm thinking seriously about > not going Saturday unless things improve between now and then. I know some > of you were planning to meet me there and I'm sorry, but I try to be a good > man, and as Dirty Harry says, "A good man knows his limitations." > > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BHerndon@morningstar-group.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:21:57 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu K1100RT "Peter P. Kaputsos" on 10/04/2000 09:53:43 PM Please respond to pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: Brad Herndon/MSTAR-DAL/Mstar/Suizafoods) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barry Shaffer" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:24:37 -0400 For a bike currently available in the USA, I would look at an ST1100 or Bandit 1200. Sincerely, Barry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:25:17 +0000 To: montyshaw@spamcop.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:25:16 +0000 Monty, My '89 had an oil leak in that area when I bought it last year. I don't know if my problem was the same as yours, or if it was the other seal that had failed on mine. But I definitely had an oil leak, not a clutch fluid leak. When I get home, I will see if I have the number of the seal that was bad on my PC, and post it if I do. Hope it helps with your problem. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > Hi everyone, > > I have an oil leak that is in the oil seal in the left crank > case cover where the clutch lifter rod goes through. I am > not having any luck obtaining the part because it doesn't > appear on the micro-fische parts thing. My local dealer and > Honda of Milipitas have both struck out on this one. > Everyone keeps wanting to sell me the oil seal that is on > the back of the clutch slave cylinder where the clutch > lifter rod goes into it. It has the correct inner diameter, > but it is too small in outer diameter. I was sent one of > these by Honda of Milipitas. I have called them and they > said they would send me the right one, but I have my doubts > that the order taker was even looking at the fische when she > told me this. > > The wrong seal that the dealers think it is has a part > number of 91209-MBO-003. (I happen to have one of these that > Honda of Milipitas sent me) > > Rich Fenwick has even been so kind as to post scanned images > of the pages showing the slave cylinder and the left crank > cover for me to look at, but the seal is not shown. > > Has anyone every replaced this seal, and if so, do you know > the part number? > > Again, the seal I am looking for is the seal around the > clutch lifter rod where it goes through the *left* crank > case cover. > > Thanks in Advance > ]Monty Shaw[ > 89 Sailor Moon > > PS. I think it is really weird that the clutch slave > cylinder is on the left side of the engine and the clutch is > on the right side and the lifter rod goes all the way > through the engine. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:38:04 -0300 To: "Nichols" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Hello from Halifax, Leticia, and welcome to the group. Good for you for taking the MSC! I run the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ it's for people to store their maint and repair records for their own use, and for sharing that info with other PC riders. It would be great to have your husband's bike's purchase, maintenance and repair data in the system, since the more bikes are there, the more useful the database is. Re: beginners bike I don't think it really matters what bike you get. I'd shop in the 400-500cc range. There are a million bikes around that size there sitting in garages and on front lawns for around 500$US. Make up a "mechanicals" checklist that you'll do for each bike that has potential. Start with what you or the guy thinks the bike would be worth, deduct needed tires, brakes, muffler, replacement lenses &c. Think twice about a bike that's not inspected. Sniff the dipstick for that bad old, burned oil smell. While it's idling but still cold, put your hands over the tailpipes to see if it stalls; if it doesn't, it's got an exhaust leak. If you see something in your budget and fall in love immediately, thank the owner, go for a coffee, talk about it with your shopping partner, go back for a second look and bargaining after you cool down. If you don't fall in love right away, move on. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:39:02 -0500 "PC800: Beginning Rider" (Oct 5, 8:13am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider There really ain't no such thing anymore. Time was, you could pick up a nice 10 year old 350 in good running condition for $500 - $1,000. They stopped making them! (Actually, the US dealers stopped importing them). I don't know where the MSF course guys get those little Honda 250 singles, but that's what you need! On a first bike, do you really need to go 100 mph? Most of the inventory on our streets these days are much too big, heavy and powerful for a first bike. Even the 500s are rockets, with ergonomics that strongly discourage casual riding. Who can enjoy the scenery while hunched over a gas tank with your butt in the air? Unfortunately, baby cruisers are the only alternative to crotch rockets these days. Their ergonomics are terrible also. Thirty minutes, and you've got a backache from sitting smack on your tailbone with your feet much too far forward to use your legs to post over bumps. Lousy suspension too. That's what's out there though. You might want to look at smaller cruisers like the Kaw Vulcan line, or the Honda Rebels. Try to get the smallest one you can find. You'll appreciate the lack of weight. Your chiropractor will appreciate the riding position, particularly if he's still paying off his new boat. Or, you could abandon motorcycles for a bit and get a Helix. Sort of a starter PC. They are very comfortable, and will keep up with expressway traffic. (That's assuming you can find one). But my recommendation is that you try riding the PC. It's really a very forgiving, easy to ride bike. Much more so than anything else I know of out there bigger than a 500. At low speeds (where most newbies get flummoxed) it is the easiest handling bike I've ever sat on. That's why it is such a nice commuter. And, you can both ride it (together) and take turns at the handlebars, with that proverbial jug of wine and loaf of bread in the trunk. Nice. Wish I could get my wife to try it. Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:59:28 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider To: , Leticia, Welcome to the list! I learned how to ride on a VT500 Ascot. This was a nice little bike I learned on. I think learning on a smaller bike is easier as if you find your self leaning a little bit to far over at a stop, it is much easier to catch and prevent it from flopping over. In some if not all areas, the MSF courses loan bikes to the beginning riders. You may call the course and see if they do indeed provide you with a bike for the course. If so, you might consider taking the course on the course provided bike. If you find you like riding and want to pursue your hobby a little more, then I would consider buying a bike to ride. If you take the course and decide you'd rather not drive, then you saved yourself the hassle of buying and then trying to resale a bike. I believe someone responded and stated the PC is a very easy bike to learn on. I agree. It is a very nimble and balanced bike and if you can stand flat footed while on the bike (as you stated) then you should be ok. If the size of the PC still intimidates you, then you might consider one of the smaller Honda Rebels, Yamaha Virago, or Suzuki GN250. The smaller bikes are getting harder and harder to find in the US. You should be able to get a good used, if you shop around. Good luck and I hope you enjoy riding! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barry Shaffer" To: "Nichols" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:12:46 -0400 I'd learn on a lighter bike than a PC800. Seat height doesn't sound like = much of a limitation in your case. I'd lean towards a 400-650cc machine = that could keep up with the PC. Good luck, Barry =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nichols=20 To: PC800=20 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: PC800: Beginning Rider Dear Listers: =20 I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider = course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud = owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can = get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. =20 =20 We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me = to get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to = make sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. = Note: I am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. =20 My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking = for to learn on? =20 Your input is appreciated. =20 Leticia Nichols Ford Taurus =20 bike we ought=20 to be looking for to learn on?
 
Your input is appreciated.
 
Leticia Nichols
Ford Taurus
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:14:35 -0300 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Tom writes: >I believe someone responded and stated the PC is a very easy bike to learn on. I agree, BUT - it is a little heavy - it is relatively expensive to fix after a drop (compared to say a 500$ no-faring bike) - and most importantly the PC is her partner's bike, and dropping your partner's bike is waaaay bad energy. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:35:10 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:35:06 +0200 >From: Greg Castle[SMTP:peecee800@hotmail.com] > >>on steroids - the ST1100 abs !!! > >>Never saw one in action until Y2K ride - WOW >ya...but its too bad that the rider on the ST1100 at the Y2K didnt really >know how to ride it! ;-) Ey ! Yoo better watch yoor mouth naw mountee ! Yoo just keep practicing on yoor right turns before yoo're gonna ride the Es Tee... Emile '92 ST1100PanEuropeanABS/TCS "Eclipse" PCRC#63, STOC#1090 www.ipcrc.org Europe, the NETHERLANDS ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:21:19 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" , "Nichols" Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:25:57 -0500 You may want to try: Suzuki GS550, 750, 850=20 Honda Nighthawk 250 or 500. =20 Kawasaki Ninja 250, Virago 250 Most of these can be had for less than $1000 (Ninja & Virago may be = more), and most hold their value pretty well when you are ready to step = up to a bigger bike. =20 Take Daniel's shopping advice like GOLD!! SHOP, shop, shop and find the = bike you will be happy with for a season or two. =20 "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CNER@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:32:24 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have had great luck with Honda CX and GL 500 s Honda CX 500 - '78 to '82 GL 500 Siverwing - '82 GL 500 Siverwing Interstate(dressed) - '82 CX 650 - '83 GL 650 Silverwing - '83 GL 650 Siverwing Interstate(dressed) - ''83 All these bikes are V-twin, shaft drive and liquid cooled with a reasonable stand-over height but less weight than the PC. The biggest difference is the V-twin is side to side instead of front to back. All non-Interstate 500s should be in the $500 to $1000 range while the non-Interstate 650s should be $1000 to $1500. Hope this helps. Good Luck. Rick Sener 89 PC - "Summer Snow" partial list I've previously owned: 82 Honda GL Siverwing 82 Honda CX 500 79 Honda CX 500 78 Honda CX 500 85 Interceptor VF500F 74(?) Suzuki GT 380 74 Suzuki Gt 750 (Water Buffalo) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "rrobinson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:29:22 -0400 !st choice, replace with another PC800 as I recently did when I replaced my 89 with a 96. If I could not find a suitable replacement PC800, I would look for either a used "Wing" or "ST" and choose the best price/condition/location combination that I could afford. Richard Robinson My 96 PC800 is "Pure Pleasure" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider To: mvnlan@cybrtyme.com (Nichols) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:45:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) In an earlier email to me Nichols said: > > Dear Listers: > > I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider = > course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud = > owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can = > get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. =20 > > We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me to = > get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to make = > sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. Note: I = > am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. > > My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking = > for to learn on? > When I took the MSF Rider course they said we could buy any of the bikes they had. They were high mileage, dinged up a bit, but there was an old Kawasaki LT400 there that started every morning and ran all day. I could have been pretty close to that one, dings and all. Regards, Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazeco -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.13.45) with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 08:55:26 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:53:33 +0200 The only bikes I could find on the net just now were the Honda Nighthawk and Honda Blackbird.. no blackhawk.. and they're both 4 cilinder bikes as well, not twins... do you mean another bike perhaps ? Emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] >Oh I see changed the rules! >I like Honda's >I like twin cylindars >I like sports touring >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. Emile Dumb Dutch '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.piloot.com www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:01:21 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Nichols" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:13:17 -0500 Leticia, I have had some experience that might help you. Two years ago my wife = Andrea decided that I was having more fun riding my Goldwing than she = was having as a passenger. I think that the constant grin on my face = might have been the give away, so she decided that she would ride her = own bike. She is about your size, so there are many options that she = could consider. I had at the time an old Silverwing 500cc touring = machine that I thought would be perfect for her but when she tried it = she was terrified. She wanted a smaller bike to learn on. The Silverwing = is not a big machine and only weighs about 500 pounds but after trying = twice in a parking lot she insisted on a smaller bike. We bought a Rebel = 250 (less than 300 pounds). She was very comfortable on that bike, but = it was very limiting in its abilities, so after about a month we traded = it for a Shadow VLX 600 (about 350 pounds). After accessorizing it with = bags and a 'sheild, she was very satisfied. Then we decided to go to the = Honda Hoot in NC. which is about 700 miles from our home. She knew that = was too far for her to ride the VLX so back on the passenger seat she = went. However, during the ride and especially after we had gotten there, = she wished she had her own bike. I told her that the only motorcycle = that I could think of that might satisfy her needs to be able to ride = with me and the 'wing long distances and yet be small enough for her was = the PC. We stayed at a hotel in Ashville that was full of hooters and = the couple next to us had previously owned a PC. They recommended it = highly. Also, we saw a few at the Hoot and the owners raved about them. = After seeing the PC in the flesh, she was sold, so I recommended that we = check the local dealer. He had a 90 with 12k miles on it and a = reasonable price. It was about an hour before closing on Saturday, so we = had to decide quickly, something that I was really uncomfortable about. = Buying a 10 year old bike 700 miles from home for my wife who had ridden = less than 100 miles on her longest day was really a concern, but as you = have already guessed we did it. It rained Sunday and on Monday when we = were leaving it was still raining a little which scared her completely, = but since the forecast was that it would only get worse we loaded the = bikes and before we even left the parking lot, she dropped it. Freaked = her out yet she was still ready to go. We rode about 400 miles through = rain and through the mountains that day and when we stopped she was = absolutely worn out. We decided that a hot tub and a good meal would set = her straight with a little alcohol to calm her and relax. Great plan, = but while she was preparing for diner she fell asleep. Totally = exhausted! The next day we woke up to a really beautiful day and she = made friends with her new mount. She enjoyed the day and the next she = recommended that we take a less direct path home so that she could enjoy = her new bike some more. After getting home, I tore the PC apart to check = that all was well and found that her bike was indeed as perfect as the = salesman had claimed. I had ridden the PC in NC. and liked it very much = so when we returned, I tried it some more and found that I liked it much = better than my 'wing. After trying to sell the VLX for months I found a = dealer that was willing to trade the VLX even for another PC which I am = happily riding today. We sold the 'wing and are now down to two = motorcycles again. Overall, the two bikes that she learned to ride with = cost us nothing since we traded for something of equal value and spent = no $$$$$. I feel really fortunate and have named the second PC Freebee. Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) Andrea 90 PC (Red Hot) =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nichols=20 To: PC800=20 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:13 AM Subject: PC800: Beginning Rider Dear Listers: =20 I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider = course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud = owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can = get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. =20 =20 We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me = to get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to = make sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. = Note: I am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. =20 My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking = for to learn on? =20 Your input is appreciated. =20 Leticia Nichols Ford Taurus =20 highly. Also, we saw a few at the Hoot and the owners raved about them. = After=20 seeing the PC in the flesh, she was sold, so I recommended that we check = the=20 local dealer. He had a 90 with 12k miles on it and a reasonable price. = It was=20 about an hour before closing on Saturday, so we had to decide quickly, = something=20 that I was really uncomfortable about. Buying a 10 year old bike 700 = miles from=20 home for my wife who had ridden less than 100 miles on her longest day = was=20 really a concern, but as you have already guessed we did it. It rained = Sunday=20 and on Monday when we were leaving it was still raining a little which = scared=20 her completely, but since the forecast was that it would only get worse = we=20 loaded the bikes and before we even left the parking lot, she dropped = it.=20 Freaked her out yet she was still ready to go. We rode about 400 miles = through=20 rain and through the mountains that day and when we stopped she was = absolutely=20 worn out. We decided that a hot tub and a good meal would set her=20 straight with a little alcohol to calm her and relax. Great = plan, but=20 while she was preparing for diner she fell asleep. Totally exhausted! = The next=20 day we woke up to a really beautiful day and she made friends with her = new=20 mount. She enjoyed the day and the next she recommended that we take a = less=20 direct path home so that she could enjoy her new bike some more. After = getting=20 home, I tore the PC apart to check that all was well and found  = that her=20 bike was indeed as perfect as the salesman had claimed. I had ridden the = PC in=20 NC. and liked it very much so when we returned, I tried it some more and = found=20 that I liked it much better than my 'wing. After trying to sell the VLX = for=20 months I found a dealer that was willing to trade the VLX even for = another PC=20 which I am happily riding today. We sold the 'wing and are now down to = two=20 motorcycles again. Overall, the two bikes that she learned to ride with = cost us=20 nothing since we traded for something of equal value and spent no $$$$$. = I feel=20 really fortunate and have named the second PC Freebee.
Jeff 90 PC (Freebee)
Andrea 90 PC (Red Hot) 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nichols=20
To: PC800
Sent: Thursday, October 05, = 2000 8:13=20 AM
Subject: PC800: Beginning = Rider

Dear Listers:
 
I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., = MSF=20 beginning rider course) next month.  Currently, I ride with my = husband,=20 Mike, the proud owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco.  Hopefully, in = the near=20 future, we can get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons.  =
 
We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to = buy in=20 order for me to get used to riding and see how I like it.  It = will be=20 test bike to make sure I want to do this before putting money out on a = used=20 PC.  Note:  I am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and = can flat=20 foot Mike's PC.
 
My question:  Any recommendations on what = bike we ought=20 to be looking for to learn on?
 
Your input is appreciated.
 
Leticia Nichols
Ford Taurus
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:19:10 -0700 (PDT) From: julia coss Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: Steve Wilson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu --0-1973387981-970762750=:21765 Ditto for us too in the new Blue color. Roy & Julia Coss 1990 Honda PC "Teal Dream" Steve Wilson wrote: The new Gold Wing. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:53 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? > > Thank you for your response. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --0-1973387981-970762750=:21765

Ditto for us too in the new Blue color. 

Roy & Julia Coss

1990 Honda PC "Teal Dream"

  Steve Wilson <stevew@tcainternet.com> wrote:

The new Gold Wing.
Steve Wilson Ruston LA.


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 --0-1973387981-970762750=:21765-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:33:54 +0000 To: "Emile Nossin" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 16:33:53 +0000 Emile, Sounds like a Hawk GT, if my memory is correct. Seems like it was a 650 V-twin. I believe Selden Deemer has one. I know somebody on the list does. Sorry for the lack of certainty or details. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > The only bikes I could find on the net just now were the > Honda Nighthawk and Honda Blackbird.. no blackhawk.. > and they're both 4 cilinder bikes as well, not twins... do > you mean another bike perhaps ? > > Emile > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:28 PM > Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] > >Oh I see changed the rules! > >I like Honda's > >I like twin cylindars > >I like sports touring > >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. > > What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. > > Emile > Dumb Dutch > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > www.piloot.com > www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club > PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 > > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material > intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be > disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other > action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be > unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. > Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its > subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or > incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any > attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > ********************************************************************** > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:38:26 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 "Peter P. Kaputsos" wrote: > > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? If money was no object, BMW 1150GS w/ABS Right now, hmmm..... A Blackbird? -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Pan Euro" , "PC800" Subject: PC800: New UK cop bike.. Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:43:01 +0200 Check out what the UK cops are using as a police bike now: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/NEWS/NEWS.asp?page=Latest+News&id=1141 and http://www.motorcyclenews.com/home/index.asp Emile www.st1100.net www.ipcrc.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:01:59 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Cheese Days Ride Page Now Up! Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:08:33 -0500 Hi everyone! The pictures from the Cheese Days Ride are now up at our site.( = http://mrgunderson.tripod.com ) Mark your calendars for the 3rd weekend of September 2002!! (Cheese = Days is only every 2 years) The direct link is: http://mrgunderson.tripod.com/PC-800/CheeseRide/CheeseRide.html Have a good day & "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com (Cheese=20 Days is only every 2 years)
 
The direct link is:
= http://mrgunderson.tripod.com/PC-800/CheeseRide/CheeseRide.html
=
 
Have a good day &
 
"May the COAST be with you!"
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific=20 Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com<= /DIV> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Black hawk? Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:42:49 -0400 Could it be a Super Hawk in black? 996cc 90degree twin with 100+hp. Gets the worst gas milegae of any bike Motorcycle Consumer News has tested lately.(who cares) WAY fun to ride. Think Ducati without the mechanical wierdness. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: , "pc800listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:34:45 +0100 ha ha. I had the exact same problem, and I suspect Bruce has as well. I couldnt find it either, but my local Honda dealer is a man with a brain and knew where to look, eventually. He also has the CD parts list. Which he wont let me borrow......yet. Anyway. We found the offending article on page 28 of the fiche. item 27 - oil seal 8 x 25 x 8 91204-MB0-013 2952943 you might need a cover gasket as well, depending on the state of yours. HTH , I suspect it will. :-} cheers Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:50 AM Subject: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover > Hi everyone, > > I have an oil leak that is in the oil seal in the left crank > case cover where the clutch lifter rod goes through. I am > not having any luck obtaining the part because it doesn't > appear on the micro-fische parts thing. My local dealer and > Honda of Milipitas have both struck out on this one. > Everyone keeps wanting to sell me the oil seal that is on > the back of the clutch slave cylinder where the clutch > lifter rod goes into it. It has the correct inner diameter, > but it is too small in outer diameter. I was sent one of > these by Honda of Milipitas. I have called them and they > said they would send me the right one, but I have my doubts > that the order taker was even looking at the fische when she > told me this. > > The wrong seal that the dealers think it is has a part > number of 91209-MBO-003. (I happen to have one of these that > Honda of Milipitas sent me) > > Rich Fenwick has even been so kind as to post scanned images > of the pages showing the slave cylinder and the left crank > cover for me to look at, but the seal is not shown. > > Has anyone every replaced this seal, and if so, do you know > the part number? > > Again, the seal I am looking for is the seal around the > clutch lifter rod where it goes through the *left* crank > case cover. > > Thanks in Advance > ]Monty Shaw[ > 89 Sailor Moon > > PS. I think it is really weird that the clutch slave > cylinder is on the left side of the engine and the clutch is > on the right side and the lifter rod goes all the way > through the engine. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Emile Nossin" , "Pan Euro" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: New UK cop bike.. Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:39:03 +0100 Not really news, well the R1 bit was but Grampian Police were using a Fireblade 3 years ago. for the same reasons. At least the Honda probably kept going for long enough, will the R1? time will tell but I suspect not. Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Pan Euro" ; "PC800" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: PC800: New UK cop bike.. > Check out what the UK cops are using as a police bike now: > http://www.motorcyclenews.com/NEWS/NEWS.asp?page=Latest+News&id=1141 > and http://www.motorcyclenews.com/home/index.asp > > Emile > www.st1100.net > www.ipcrc.org > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: , "pc800listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:42:57 +0100 Well I supose it would have to be an ST1100, but I doubt my PC will ever be beyond repair, one way or another I would get it back on the road. Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:19 AM Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "pc800listserver" Subject: PC800: Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:51:30 +0100 The Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally is taking place this weekend 6 - 8 /sept /2000 at the Cotswold Hoburne Holiday Park, Gloucestershire, England, Great Britain. At least 1 PC800 will be in attendance. Mine. If you are passing by, drop in and say Hi. http://www.btinternet.com/~hocwilts/NatRally2000/Rally1.htm or http://www.hoc.org.uk/events/index.html cheers Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:54:23 +0100 maybe a Deauville, I could probably bore it out a bit to 700cc to give it a bit more oomph than standard. Maybe a PC engine would fit. Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:19 AM Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:17:51 -0700 How about a Yamaha FJR1300 ... no, that's not available in the US. Okay, then how about a Honda X-Wing ... no, that's not available at all. Well, I guess maybe an ST1100, but I would have to learn how to ride backwards like Emile. ;-) Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter P. Kaputsos Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:19 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 INFORMAL POLL: Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer can not be another PC800) Thank you for your response. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:20:34 EDT Subject: PC800: 89' PC For Sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have decided to sell my PC and trailer. :^( If you ever wanted an 89', here's your chance! 1989 PC800 16,000 miles, Rifle +2 windshield, Utopia drivers backrest, Hondaline passenger backrest, Genmar risers, VistaCruise throttle lock, AudioVox CCS-100 cruise control, HitchDoc trailer hitch. Brand new rear tire, sparkplugs, and hydraulic fluid in both front brake and clutch. Includes original tool kit, owners manual, and Honda service manual 89'-90', 94'. To be sold as a package with a white CycleMate CM-2000 trailer which is less than 1 year old. $4500.00 Alan in Houston 89' PC Rifle +2 AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control Utopia backrest Hitch Doc GenMar risers Cycle-Mate trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:22:31 -0400 Sorry for the confusion Emile, In my daydreaming lust I crossed the Blackbird and the Nighthawk. I ment Nighthawk. http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2000/sport/superhawk/index.html Mike ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:28 AM Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] > >Oh I see changed the rules! > >I like Honda's > >I like twin cylindars > >I like sports touring > >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. > > What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. > > Emile > Dumb Dutch > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > www.piloot.com > www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club > PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 > > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > ********************************************************************** > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.102) with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 13:31:55 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:30:10 +0200 >From: "MTW" >In my daydreaming lust I crossed the Blackbird and the Nighthawk. I ment >Nighthawk. http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2000/sport/superhawk/index.html >Mike Nighthawk has 4 cilinders... you must mean Superhawk... ; ) Emile '92 ST1100 ABS/TCS Pan American... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 13:33:33 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:31:49 +0200 >From: "Russ Goff" >The Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally is taking place >this weekend 6 - 8 /sept /2000 at the Cotswold Hoburne Holiday >Park, Gloucestershire, England, Great Britain. Nah... I'm getting ready for the Y2K ride then.......err............... Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Nichols" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:41:47 -0400 The PC is one of the best handling bikes out there. Especially if your = feet touch the ground when they need to. I say "Mike's bike" is your = best choice. Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nichols=20 To: PC800=20 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: PC800: Beginning Rider Dear Listers: I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider = course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud = owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can = get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. =20 We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me = to get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to = make sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. = Note: I am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking = for to learn on? Your input is appreciated. Leticia Nichols Ford Taurus bike we ought=20 to be looking for to learn on?
 
Your input is appreciated.
 
Leticia Nichols
Ford Taurus
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:49:20 -0400 Lets try SUPERHAWK this time! DAmn, I gotta quit doing this when I'm tired! I guess I'd never do this then.... Mike ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > The only bikes I could find on the net just now were the > Honda Nighthawk and Honda Blackbird.. no blackhawk.. > and they're both 4 cilinder bikes as well, not twins... do > you mean another bike perhaps ? > > Emile > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:28 PM > Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] > >Oh I see changed the rules! > >I like Honda's > >I like twin cylindars > >I like sports touring > >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. > > What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. > > Emile > Dumb Dutch > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > www.piloot.com > www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club > PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 > > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other > action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its > subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any > attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > ********************************************************************** > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:08:49 -0400 Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:07:42 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:05:43 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Boundary="0__=t3I7WjCbyIdcLxsxrKceS3SqmXed88hN9rOFYOXWTbAtzZsYYym2wMt3" --0__=t3I7WjCbyIdcLxsxrKceS3SqmXed88hN9rOFYOXWTbAtzZsYYym2wMt3 I fully agree. Last year I bought my bike from a friend. I had never ridden anything larger than a moped, and that was over 20 years previous. Shortly after getting the bike I took the MFS using their small bikes. Once I had my temporary permit from the DMV and insurance from Progressive I took it out on the road. The bike is very light as long as you keep it vertical. Initially, I took everything slowly. I was used to riding a bicycle, so I had an inclination to keep to the very right of the road and when I wanted to speed up I even mentally pumped the pedals with my feet. Since then I have become more and more comfortable with the bike. I am fully in front of the bike while riding. When coming to a stop I am always doing it slowly to ensure that when my feet touch the groud the ground will be solid. After a little more than a year I have put over 7000 miles on the bike - including 1000 last month alone. My only regret with the bike (or motorcycles in general) is that my wife would love to ride with me, but I am not comfortable with two up and she is too short for any bikes. She is 4'11" and has a 23 1/2" inseam. Not many bikes get that low. Get another PC and ride as a matched set. Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com Life is like a game of poker. Except, you don,t get to keep the money when you cash in the chips. "MTW" on 10/05/2000 01:41:47 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Nichols" , "PC800" cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider The PC is one of the best handling bikes out there. Especially if your feet touch the ground when they need to. I say "Mike's bike" is your best choice. Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: Nichols To: PC800 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: PC800: Beginning Rider Dear Listers: I am enrolled in a motorcycle safety course (i.e., MSF beginning rider course) next month. Currently, I ride with my husband, Mike, the proud owner of a '97 PC 800, Tabasco. Hopefully, in the near future, we can get a PC for me; but first, riding lessons. We are looking for an inexpensive (CHEAP) bike to buy in order for me to get used to riding and see how I like it. It will be test bike to make sure I want to do this before putting money out on a used PC. Note: I am 5'6", have a 31" inseam, and can flat foot Mike's PC. My question: Any recommendations on what bike we ought to be looking for to learn on? Your input is appreciated. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACDB4410104; Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:12:43 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: , Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:03:33 -0400 I pasted the text below that was in reference to my oil leak last year on my 97 model... Sounds like the same problem. There are 2 seals..... the inner one was the problem for me 91204-MBO-013. Hope it helps! Michael -------------------------------------------------- '97 PC800 Bike #51 990914 8300 engi one of the few PC owners with an oil leak! Dealer replaced the outer seal of the clutch rod assembly. Leaked oil worse than ever. Dealer has inner seal ordered. Thank goodness for WARRANTIES! 990918 8300 engi Oil leak FIXED! Clutch rod assembly needed the inner seal. The spring on the seal was broken and the edge of the seal was chewed up. Part number 91204-MBO-013 fixed the problem. Working with Honda on warranty was a pleasure -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "MTW" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:10:47 -0400 Nighthawk photos - http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=147089&a=1074966&p=14159523 =) PS: The black Nighthawk took 1st runner-up in the Sport bike class at that show,too! Some guys hadn't washed their bikes in a long time. 1st place? a ZR1100 Kawasaki. Yup, two standards beat a field of true sport bikes. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:03:46 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Texas Hill Country Ride There's a cold front on the way! It's getting to be about that time. I saved all the messages about a fall ride to the Bandera / Lost Maples area, and just looked at them to see if there were any common dates that we could agree on. Actually, things seem fairly open. Bill Richardson would prefer a Sunday. Don Fruehling says he and Deb can make the first or last weekend of the month. Darryl Tschoepe says not on the last weekend, because there is something called a HTSA Meet in Fred'burg on that weekend. Maybe we can work it in, or you can take a break, Darryl? That's on the way from / to Austin. Myself, I'll just make time whenever. Now that it's just about riding weather again, whaddya think? Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:17:13 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hpdrifter 68" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Life After The PC800/Concours? Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:17:13 EDT Ok, my warrantee doesn't run out ontil next April, but I look around like everyone else. I rode a used ST1100 (nice, but a little clumsy, and a lot like my present ride) I tested a Kawa Voyager at Honda Hoot - people say its junk, and it doesn't hold its value at all; Plus, its hard to find a lightly used one since not many are sold (the Kawa dealer nearest me seems to have no interest in selling ot servicing bikes, so thats a major negative) I thought of a Bandit 1200S So, Tim, whats wrong with a Kawa Concours? >From: "MTW" >To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" >Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:49:20 -0400 >MHotMailBBA6348A0065D82197B78107802387DC0; Thu Oct 05 13:50:19 2000 >fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB01268;Thu, 5 Oct 2000 >15:50:17 -0500 (CDT) >Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:49:45 -0500 (CDT) >[204.210.252.23])by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23612for >; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:49:35 -0500 (CDT) >cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA08913;Thu, 5 Oct >2000 16:49:04 -0400 (EDT) ><005101c02ee4$717e55e0$269449d5@emile> > >Lets try SUPERHAWK this time! > >DAmn, I gotta quit doing this when I'm tired! I guess I'd never do this >then.... > >Mike >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Emile Nossin" >To: "PC800" >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:53 AM >Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > The only bikes I could find on the net just now were the > > Honda Nighthawk and Honda Blackbird.. no blackhawk.. > > and they're both 4 cilinder bikes as well, not twins... do > > you mean another bike perhaps ? > > > > Emile > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:28 PM > > Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > > > > > >From: MTW[SMTP:MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM] > > >Oh I see changed the rules! > > >I like Honda's > > >I like twin cylindars > > >I like sports touring > > >I guess the Honda Blackhawk with a GIVI setup and maybe Heli bars. > > > > What's a Honda Blackhawk ? Request cc's, image descreption etc please.. > > > > Emile > > Dumb Dutch > > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > > www.piloot.com > > www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club > > PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged >material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the > > addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment >may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other > > action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and >may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, > > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this >message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its > > subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect >or >incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any > > attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. > > ********************************************************************** > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Bill Lucek '97 PC - DreamWeaver '...My course is as elusive as a shadow across the sky' _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server03.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 5 Oct 2000 22:34:50 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:29:19 -0400 Thanks to all the responded. I went over to the dealer and they let me look through the fische and I found it. Fortunately, the part I bought matches the part numbers you guys posted: 91204-MBO-013 Does anyone know if you can replace this without taking off the cover? I have a new gasket for the cover, but I just replaced the gasket when I fixed my stator a couple of weeks ago, and you really have to take off all of the plastic front of the trunk to get the cover off. And, well, I'm lazy and I did that once already this year :o) so I'd like to try and replace this seal without doing that again. From the looks of the one I got, it seems like you could push it in from the outside. Thanks a Ton, and what a great list! ]Monty Shaw[ 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:44:32 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: .....Life After The PC800 Suzuki Hayubusa (sp?). For the sake of the world, lets hope nothing happens to my PC. LOL Thomas Peter P. Kaputsos wrote: > > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) > > Thank you for your response. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:22:36 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: 89' PC For Sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have decided to sell my PC and trailer. :^( If you ever wanted an 89', here's your chance! 1989 PC800 16,000 miles, Rifle +2 windshield, Utopia drivers backrest, Hondaline passenger backrest, Genmar risers, VistaCruise throttle lock, AudioVox CCS-100 cruise control, HitchDoc trailer hitch. Brand new rear tire, sparkplugs, and hydraulic fluid in both front brake and clutch. Includes original tool kit, owners manual, and Honda service manual 89'-90', 94'. To be sold as a package with a white CycleMate CM-2000 trailer which is less than 1 year old. $4500.00 Oops.... I also have a real nice tank bag which will be included. Alan in Houston 89' PC Rifle +2 AudioVox ccs-100 cruise control Utopia backrest Hitch Doc GenMar risers Cycle-Mate trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:02:40 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu When I logged on this evening I saw the overwhelming list of responses to this question. I answer this question without having opened any of those responses... Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, what would you replace it with? "Another Pacific Coast" Troy Doyle 1997 PC800 Gabrielle Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:14:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ha ha ha... An ST1100... Troy Doyle 1997 PC800 Gabrielle Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 of "Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:19:29 PDT." <20001005031929.12186.qmail@web4603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:08:14 -0500 "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: > INFORMAL POLL: > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) Considering Honda no longer makes the PC I'd have to bias my choice against Honda. Can't reward them for discontinuing the PC by spending bluezillions more on an ST or GoldWing. Original 1st choice was a BMW K75RT. Discontinued before the PC was. Didn't find a good used one at interesting price before I discovered the 1998 PC Fire Sale. I thought all of the used BMW's I saw looked like they had more wear than their age, price, and mileage, indicated. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Thfwsf@aol.com cc: mvnlan@cybrtyme.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Beginning Rider of "Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:59:28 EDT." Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:14:51 -0500 From: David Kelly Thfwsf@aol.com writes: > Leticia, > > I learned how to ride on a VT500 Ascot. This was a nice little bike I > learned on. I think learning on a smaller bike is easier as if you > find your self leaning a little bit to far over at a stop, it is much > easier to catch and prevent it from flopping over. I don't know. Still have my VT500 Ascot. Its seat is taller than the PC. Its footpegs are higher too. You sit closer to the handlebars. It makes a beautiful sound out the exhaust. About the same horsepower, only tuned at higher RPM's. Quick clean 6-speed shifter, light throttle springs, light clutch springs. I need to reattach my Ascot's turn signals where I turned the corner on grass too fast last year. Then sell it. The Ascot makes me ride like a squid. If I'm going to do that then I need a 250cc thumper dirt bike. If you have a PC handy, learn to ride it. Its not a hard motorcycle to ride. Lots of people learn to ride on Gold Wings. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:50:49 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:54:23 -0500 I've got a '84 Honda Rebel 250 for sale in Heber Springs, Arkansas. Looks good, runs great, needs tires, new paint on tank and front fender. $1000 obo I'd stay away from the Yamaha Virago 250, nice looking bike but our two we use in the MSF course are a maintanance headache. Can't beat the Hondas, start and run all day long with no problems. My favorite bike for the MSF course is the Honda TwinStar 200, we have 4 of them and they are bulletproof and very easy to ride, come with kick and electric start. Best gas mileage of all our bikes too. Pick one up for $300-$700, might not look "cool" but will run forever. Chuck Chiodini 501-362-1865 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G1ZK5M00.CKK for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:58:34 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Ordered my Metzeler tires today.. Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:56:43 -0500 Hi Folks- Went ahead and took the plunge and ordered my Metzeler tires today for the PC. The dealer that I have decided to go with on this, Twin City BMW Motorcycles, who is a mile from my home, was able to get a rear tire en route today (for arrival by the middle of next week), but had to settle for an 11/3 backorder on the front after calling all of their suppliers. I may stop in there after work and ask them if I can get one quicker will they go ahead and mount it for me (since they have exhausted their avenues...) It is the rear tire that concerns me the most anyway. I decided to go with the ME880 Marathons in the stock sizes. I know that others have successfully used other sizes on the rear (namely 140/90's and 150/80's), but I am not much of a risk taker. And I know, yes, I am having the *BMW* shop do this.... Why? Because their shop rate is $55.00 an hour. And what is the rate of the local Honda shop? $60.00 an hour. They told me that they are more than happy to do routine repairs/maintenance on my PC (tires, brake pads, fluids, etc.) Of course, they know that there is a good chance that one of these days I'll "graduate" to a BMW... Now..I wonder if they'll let me have that '96 R1100RT that they just took in on trade as a loaner for the day? :-) Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:15:49 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: PC For Sale I found this while surfing thru a local Chicago Area motorcycle web site 95 HONDA Pacific Coast (PC800), 7,800mi. $5,000 firm. Blk/silver, looks/runs like new. Bobzwing@aol.com Is this anyone on the list? Just passing on the find. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC, HRCA, AMA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:28:57 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re life after PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu A Ferrari 250 GTO (circa 1962). Hey, you didn't say it had to be a bike! Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:52:05 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:52:04 PDT > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > can not be another PC800) After giving this question considerable thought and research, I'd say that I'd probably get an ST1100. Oh, wait, I already did! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (120K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (14K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" - Presidential candidate George W. Bush _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Bar end weights. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:44:04 -0400 Dear list, Can someone enlighten me as to a good way to keep the OEM bar-end weights black? The original finish got badly scratched in daily use. I wet sanded them and repainted them a couple of times. Nothing seems to work. -eddie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail9.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 2000 05:50:54 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:47:44 -0500 Peter, A Wing or ST1100 Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 2000 05:53:47 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:50:45 -0500 Steve, After reading your list of bikes, I'll be your banker doesn't feel that way. Mark G. _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 2000 05:57:49 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "markie800" To: "Ralph Couey" , "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Ralph Wayne's Vintage Bike Show and Backyard Barbecue Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:54:46 -0500 A man's got to know his limitations. They are calling for temps in the low 30's to upper 20's this Saturday morning in St. Louis. I think I'll pass. Mark Gilb ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:26 AM Subject: PC800: Ralph Wayne's Vintage Bike Show and Backyard Barbecue > Well, having lived in Missouri most of my life I shouldn't be surprised by > this, but... On a week that started with a high of 87 degrees on Tuesday, > Saturday's forecast for now shows a high temp of 38 degrees. Fahrenheit. I > am concerned because this sudden change has not allowed me to acclimate to > the colder weather, and while I'm fairly certain I could tolerate my > 40-minute commute to work under these conditions, a two-hour ride to Kansas > City might qualify under the term "foolish." I'm thinking seriously about > not going Saturday unless things improve between now and then. I know some > of you were planning to meet me there and I'm sorry, but I try to be a good > man, and as Dirty Harry says, "A good man knows his limitations." > > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:45:51 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 List Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:45:47 +0200 >From: eddie[SMTP:transalp1@mindspring.com] >Nighthawk photos - > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=147089&a=1074966&p=14159523 >PS: The black Nighthawk took 1st runner-up in the Sport bike class at that >show,too! Some guys hadn't washed their bikes in a long time. They actually put the Nighthawk in the Sport Bike class ?? I think that's much more a tour or sport tour machine. It doesn't even look like a sportbike.. no fairing.. shaft drive... weird... Emile www.st1100.net ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:51:13 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Life After The PC800/Concours? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:51:05 +0200 > From: Hpdrifter 68[SMTP:hpdrifter68@hotmail.com] > I thought of a Bandit 1200S > So, Tim, whats wrong with a Kawa Concours? > If ya like holding two vibrators in your hands...... They don't make the GTR (Concours) here new anymore for a few years now... I wonder when Kawa is finally gonna introduce the Connie's successor... Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:41:45 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Life After The PC800/ Fazer 1000 ? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:07:02 +0200 > I thought of a Bandit 1200S > I noticed some of us mentioned the Bandit 1200(S) in their wishlist... why not go for the new Yamaha Fazer 1000 then ? Bound to be cheap also, very relaxed touring seating position (like the Bandit) and a small fairing as well. Only with lots more power and the looks of a R1... bound to be the motorcycle of the year.. I think.. Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:43:55 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Life After The PC800/Concours? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:19:44 +0200 > From: Hpdrifter 68[SMTP:hpdrifter68@hotmail.com] > I rode a used ST1100 (nice, but a little clumsy, and a lot like my > present ride) Just wondering... what did you find clumsy about the ST ? I personnaly enjoy the doubling of power and the V4, I guess if you don't use it the ride is indeed pretty similar for the rest.. except for the range then.. Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:58:55 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:58:52 +0200 >From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca[SMTP:Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca] > >>I believe someone responded and stated the PC is a very easy bike to > learn on. >I agree, BUT > - it is relatively expensive to fix after a drop (compared to say a > 500$ no-faring bike) I thought so as well at first, that's why I insured my PC heavily when I bought it only to find out the bike's perfect for crashing.. Drop the PC and all you have to do is replace (a) crash guard cover(s) and perhaps re-attach the mirror, at worst usually replace a mirror (okay, now that's an expensive part on the PC..). Drop a $500 naked bike and you usually end up replacing clutch / braking lever, mirror, shifting lever, side plastic / panels, muffler, perhaps even steering bar, maybe scratching engine parts and then I'm not even looking at the possible personal physical damage that might occur when a (hot) motorcycle is lying on top of your legs (dragging you along ?). Bad point about the PC might be it's relative high weight although I think that will mainly be a hard thing for short legged riders when doing walking-speed maneuvers. For the rest it might be a nice beginners bike I think although it's deceptively smooth and quiet so a new rider might not realize it's speed.. a light naked bike seems to go much faster when you're riding it, not creating a false sense of security. This is even more true on bikes like the ST. Still I personnaly wouldn't take a PC800 as a first bike either. A lighter bike will still be more forgiving .. and lighter.. I'd think more about a Honda CB500, Yamaha XJ600S, Transalp or an older bike like a CB400, GPZ400 or XJ600. At least for the first year.. That will also make the following PC800 period much more enjoyable ; ) Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club PCRC# 63, STOC# 1090 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:13:10 +0100 well spotted that man. I have to be so careful with dates, if I said 6/10/00 then some people would think I meant June. So I typed 6-8 / then thought, spell out the month so I dont confuse people, then I get the month wrong anyway. DOH! I am a plonker. Russ ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:31 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally > >From: "Russ Goff" > >The Honda Owners Club (GB) National Rally is taking place > >this weekend 6 - 8 /sept /2000 at the Cotswold Hoburne Holiday > >Park, Gloucestershire, England, Great Britain. > > Nah... I'm getting ready for the Y2K ride then.......err............... > > Emile > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lohan Johnson" To: Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:30:52 +0200 Importance: Normal I can vouch for that! The reason I got my PC is 'cos I saved its life from step-mommy dearest, who weight about 60kgs and is about 1.70m and bought it as a 1st bike after how-many years (she's Dutch as well, Mielie, so I think the more class than a**se bike thing is cultural! *grin*). She dropped the bike twice on either side while doing slow turns (like you say, walking speed). Its just too much to keep up when its starts tilting. Oh well, I'm still happy with my PC, unfortunately the speedo cable broke and I have to replace the front rotors... did anyone replaced theirs yet? Lohan -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:59 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:35:48 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: Lohan Johnson Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Mail-Followup-To: Lohan Johnson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Lohan: > Oh well, I'm still happy with my PC, unfortunately the speedo cable broke > and I have to replace the front rotors... did anyone replaced theirs yet? A quick search of ; http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ with a report on Details Containing: rotor turns up NO records from the 158 bikes. How many miles are on it? Did a former owner drive with worn-through pads maybe? > Lohan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:59 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lohan Johnson" To: Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:43:12 +0200 Importance: Normal I believe that to be the case, the part on the disc where the pads make contact is sortof 'hollowed out'; my mechanic said I should have them replaced at the next service as my pads aren't making good contact any more and are being worned out prematurely. Lohan -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay [mailto:daniel@noc.dal.ca] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:36 PM To: Lohan Johnson Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Lohan: > Oh well, I'm still happy with my PC, unfortunately the speedo cable broke > and I have to replace the front rotors... did anyone replaced theirs yet? A quick search of ; http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ with a report on Details Containing: rotor turns up NO records from the 158 bikes. How many miles are on it? Did a former owner drive with worn-through pads maybe? > Lohan > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:25:06 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" , "eddie" Subject: Re: PC800: Bar end weights. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:31:45 -0500 Hey Eddie, Have you tried wet sanding, PRIMING with BLACK PRIMER and then painting? Sometimes, primer sticks to bare metal a little better than paint, and paint definitely sticks better to primer than to bare sanded metal. Plus, the finish will be a little smoother...primer fills in all the pits well. My advise is, prime once, sand, prime second time--POLISH with VERY FINE wet SANDPAPER, Paint, and then clearcoat paint. viola..... Have a good weekend! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , "David Kelly" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:55:52 -0700 And why, David, now that you have been "inside" the Honda design brain, would you want a bike that has those goofy turn signal controls? Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David Kelly" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 > "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: > > INFORMAL POLL: > > > > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > > what would you replace it with? (Rule: your answer > > can not be another PC800) > > Considering Honda no longer makes the PC I'd have to bias my choice > against Honda. Can't reward them for discontinuing the PC by spending > bluezillions more on an ST or GoldWing. > > Original 1st choice was a BMW K75RT. Discontinued before the PC was. > Didn't find a good used one at interesting price before I discovered > the 1998 PC Fire Sale. > > I thought all of the used BMW's I saw looked like they had more wear > than their age, price, and mileage, indicated. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Chuck Chiodini" , Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:58:12 -0700 . My favorite bike for the MSF > course is the Honda TwinStar 200, we have 4 of them and they are bulletproof > and very easy to ride, come with kick and electric start. Best gas mileage > of all our bikes too. Pick one up for $300-$700, might not look "cool" but > will run forever. > > Chuck Chiodini Usually found bungeed to the back of a motorhome, driven by a duffer who has great motorcycle stories and just can't let go of two wheels. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:49:32 -0500 "PC800: Bar end weights." (Oct 6, 1:44am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Bar end weights. Why keep them? I took mine off first thing. The stock grips are sorta greasy and uncomfortable, so I replaced them too. Now I have rubber at the end of the handlebars. Rubber does not lose it's paint. And, I don't see bar end weights in the mirror. No noticable change in handlebar vibration. As far as I can tell, the bar weights on a PC are entirely decorative. Except that they're not attractive. Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "eddie" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Bar end weights. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:02:54 -0700 I dip mine in that stuff that you use for pliers handles and the like. Rubberize them, then when the bike tips over, it bounces right back up. : ) Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Boingo" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:44 PM Subject: PC800: Bar end weights. > Dear list, > Can someone enlighten me as to a good way to keep the OEM bar-end weights > black? The original finish got badly scratched in daily use. I wet sanded > them and repainted them a couple of times. Nothing seems to work. > -eddie > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:04:42 -0700 I think it's a chain, Emile, but I don't have the URL so you can see the links....heh heh heh Lee . It doesn't even look > like a sportbike.. no fairing.. shaft drive... weird... > > Emile > www.st1100.net > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:59:34 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:59:14 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Texas Hill Country Ride From: Daryl Tschoepe To: PC800 Howdy, I think the "official" stuff on the HSTA (Honda Sport Touring Association - PC's in the pix @ www.ohanagroup.com/thsta/hc99.htm) ride is Saturday and Sunday is open, so I could try to meet up whenever/wherever on Sunday. I'm meeting some of my SuperHawk lister buddies there, so it would be pretty cool to meet the 'Coastie lister's on Sunday...in fact in sounds like a plan!! I'll have the better half along, so we'll be on the PC. I'll bring the digital camera and have plenty of server space for pictures to show the guys how the third coast rides (no pun intended). Later, Daryl It's possible that on 10/5/00 5:03 PM, Revill Dunn at revill.dunn@legerity.com hurled this into the void... > There's a cold front on the way! It's getting to be about that time. I saved > all the messages about a fall ride to the Bandera / Lost Maples area, and just > looked at them to see if there were any common dates that we could agree on. > > Actually, things seem fairly open. Bill Richardson would prefer a Sunday. > Don > Fruehling says he and Deb can make the first or last weekend of the month. > Darryl Tschoepe says not on the last weekend, because there is something > called a HTSA Meet in Fred'burg on that weekend. Maybe we can work it in, or > you can take a break, Darryl? That's on the way from / to Austin. > > Myself, I'll just make time whenever. Now that it's just about riding weather > again, whaddya think? > > Revill > Rider of Whirby > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:59:35 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:59:14 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 From: Daryl Tschoepe To: PC800 Dang, Haven't even ridden it much and now you want me to kill it... I've already got a SuperHawk for the solo work...no reserve, no gauge, just the Red Light of Death (RLOD) which blinks in at 100-110 miles. The PC is for two-up work. Right now it's probably be a Ural, and I'm surprised that two of them have already turned up...what do we all have about quirky bikes? A sport Guzzi would also be a possibility. The FJ1300 isn't bound for the States, but if I could smuggle one down from Canada that would be a possibility, half-faired shaftie with 100 horse and hard bags. Yee haw! If the PC lasts long enough, probably a new 'Wing, although I'd love to see the new Valk with Beetle bags! Or even an ACE 1100, friend has one with the Harley-style cop shield, and it wasn't bad. Put some Beetle bags on it, and it's essentially a PC motor punched out to 1100cc, a little more torque. That's today's list.. Daryl -- "Bones heal and chicks dig scars. Pain is temporary, but glory is forever." - Bart Simpson <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Daryl Tschoepe '98 SuperHawk #3693 tschoepe@earthlink.net '90 Pacific Coast #2010 NRA Life Member # 4697809 TSRA Life Member #119507 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:21:45 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 List Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:21:43 +0200 I'm sure all Nighthawks at least had a shaft drive.. I can't surf from here but I know the technical description is on www.honda.com .. > ---------- > From: Great Ned[SMTP:greatned@quik.com] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:04 PM > To: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK; PC800 List > Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > > I think it's a chain, Emile, but I don't have the URL so you can see the > links....heh heh heh > > Lee > > > . It doesn't even look > > like a sportbike.. no fairing.. shaft drive... weird... > > > > Emile > > www.st1100.net > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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Just about every time I started kvetching about there being no "normal" bikes on the market anymore. All of the more recent ones are chain drive. Revill On Oct 6, 3:21pm, Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > I'm sure all Nighthawks at least had a shaft drive.. > I can't surf from here but I know the technical > description is on www.honda.com .. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Daniel MacKay" , "Lohan Johnson" Cc: "PC800 LIST SERVER" Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:35:36 +0100 Dan, I found this searching on brake disk:- 000401 75300 fron R. fr. brake disk was badly grooved and below minimum thickness - replaced it. $155US (self-installed - dlr. wanted $600) It is Bruce's bike I think. cheers Russ ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay To: Lohan Johnson Cc: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider > Lohan: > > > Oh well, I'm still happy with my PC, unfortunately the speedo cable broke > > and I have to replace the front rotors... did anyone replaced theirs yet? > > A quick search of ; > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > > with a report on Details Containing: > > rotor > > turns up NO records from the 158 bikes. How many miles are on it? > > Did a former owner drive with worn-through pads maybe? > > > Lohan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:59 PM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:53:28 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:53:26 -0400 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) CC: PC800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Bar end weights. Eddie, All of the comments that I have read on this thread are good suggestions. But if you want to keep the bar end weights, and keep them looking good, get them powdercoated. Its a tough baked on finish that is extremely durable. my .05 cents. (I am easy but not cheap) Stan eddie wrote: > Dear list, > Can someone enlighten me as to a good way to keep the OEM bar-end weights > black? The original finish got badly scratched in daily use. I wet sanded > them and repainted them a couple of times. Nothing seems to work. > -eddie > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 LIST SERVER Subject: PC800: Brake rotor replacement (was Beginning Rider) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:59:14 -0700 Yes, that entry in the maintenance database is mine. I bought the brake rotor and new brake pads from Honda of Milpitas. I followed the instructions in the service manual, and it was pretty easy getting the front wheel off and replacing the rotor. The only difficulty I had was that the wear on the rotor had created a big lip at the edge of the disk, and it was difficult to expand the brake calipers wide enough to allow the pads to clear the disk. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Russ Goff [mailto:tech@f-goff.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:36 AM To: Daniel MacKay; Lohan Johnson Cc: PC800 LIST SERVER Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider Dan, I found this searching on brake disk:- 000401 75300 fron R. fr. brake disk was badly grooved and below minimum thickness - replaced it. $155US (self-installed - dlr. wanted $600) It is Bruce's bike I think. cheers Russ ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay To: Lohan Johnson Cc: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Beginning Rider > Lohan: > > > Oh well, I'm still happy with my PC, unfortunately the speedo cable broke > > and I have to replace the front rotors... did anyone replaced theirs yet? > > A quick search of ; > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > > with a report on Details Containing: > > rotor > > turns up NO records from the 158 bikes. How many miles are on it? > > Did a former owner drive with worn-through pads maybe? > > > Lohan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:59 PM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: RE: PC800: Beginning Rider > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:07:35 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Bar end weights. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:14:14 -0500 Lee Barker Wrote: I dip mine in that stuff that you use for pliers handles and the like. Rubberize them, then when the bike tips over, it bounces right back up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- Look out!! Disney has a copyright on that stuff!!!!!!! I think they call it "FLUBBER" Hey Lee, I kinda like this name "Secondo con FLUBBER" more than "Secondo con Boingo" LOL!!!!! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:22:31 +0000 To: montyshaw@spamcop.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Help with part number for oil seal in the left crank case cover Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:22:30 +0000 Monty, I am way behind on my email; got about 112 messages right now (Friday morning) and I haven't read the later ones. So you may have this all resolved before you get this late response from me! I don't know if you can replace this seal without removing the crankcase cover. Had mine done by the dealer. Looking at the invoice is very interesting - it has 2 part numbers on it. Under the heading "Part #/Labor Code" it shows 91204-MB0-003. On the SAME line, under "Description", it shows 91204-MB0-013. I don't know why two numbers, nor why they are so similar; maybe one is an old number, one is its successor? It beats me. Anyway, the -013 number has appeared now in several messages; sounds like it might be the right part. Good luck. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > > See my comments in/after your original email. - ]Monty[ > > "Received from sge2000@att.net on Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:25:16 +0000 > > < > < > > Hey thanks a lot. But I think I found the part. I went to > the dealer here and went behind the desk and searched the > micro-fische and found it. Not where I'd expected it to be > at all. Anyway the number on the part I got was > 91204-MBO-013. Let me know if it doesn't match yours. Do you > happen to know if you have to take the crankcase cover off > to replace this seal? From the looks of the seal I bought, > it looks like you can do this without taking it off. > > Thanks tons! > ]Monty Shaw[ > 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:28:58 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 01:40:17 -0700 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" Alan Nichols , Jim Alexander , Peter Noeth , "Thomas E. Humphrey II" , "Leland C. Sheppard" , Chuck Wildman , Rick Corwine , Emile Nossin , Brian Millman , George Hilsinger , "Joyce D. Calvert" , J T Smith , David Silver , Kenneth Howze , Chris Bradley , Greg Castle , Gil Pitt , Jerry Williams , Glen Roddick , Roy and Julia Coss , Dean Williams , David Lister , Roger Ries , John Strode , Mike Kanitsch , Tim Macy , Jesus Soriano , Bruce Pickett , David Shumaker , Neill Thompson , Bruce Bowman , Rocky Harpole , Bob Walton , "Rodney A. Wright" , Lee Barker , Jack Addington , Henry Tate , Philip Clarke , Paco Solis , Mike Durst , C J Cervantes , Rick Sener , Tina Wagner-Sult , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: PC800: Y2K Trip Reports/Photos/Etc. Hi Y2Kers and Coasters, I've added the following links to the Trip Reports page on the Y2K ride web site (URL below): Trip Reports: Emile Rick Corwine Neill Thompson - very funny story George Hilsinger Roy & Julia Coss Leland Photo Links: Group photo at HOM luncheon Chuck Wildman's photos Bruce Pickett's photos Paco Solis' photos Neill Thompson's photos David Shumaker's photos A few of Emile's photos Roy & Julia Coss' photos J.T. Smith's photos Miscellaneous additions: Ann Reid Goes to the Dark Side? Leland's Room Enjoy! Anybody else from the Y2K ride want to get a trip report to me? I can probably find a picture of you to go with it - Emile got one of everybody, I think. Let me know. (All of the trip reports out there now have a picture with them...) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 152000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 29000 miles iPCRC #72 Honda Pacific Coast Owner's Registry: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html Mother of all PC800 Web Site Lists: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800LinkList.html Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:37:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: ....Life After The PC800 "Peter P. Kaputsos" writes: > Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, > what would you replace it with? Since this is purely hypothetical, and since I've already done the "die and beyond repair" thing with a PC, I'd like a BMW F650GS with expandable hard bags, heated grips, and ABS. It's light, has decent luggage capacity, will carry a passenger in some comfort, and can go a lot of places where taking a PC would make me very nervous. But, at $10,000 a copy, there's no way I'll ever buy one unless I strike it rich. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Hello Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:44:43 +0100 Hi there all bikers everywhere, My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head = turner. I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group could = help me maintain my bike by suppling information. The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune = for this repair. Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a = replacement section =A3350UKP but another =A3150UKP for fitting as the bike has to = be stripped down quite a lot. My first question is :- can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda = Original equipment only? Second question The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and needs = new fairing and mirrors what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of = meets and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active Thanks in advance Godfrey +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Godfrey Smith Chief Content Engineer Internet Digital Media Ltd (A Gameplay company) 8-14 Stanley Rd London SW19 8RF www.gameplay.com p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 e: godfrey@idm.co.uk +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? Hi, I am seriously considering getting the grosjean Cassiar vest, if any of you know about it (if not, more below). He has a 45 watt version and an 80 watt version. The 45 watt version is for electrically challenged bikes. I am looking for opinions as to which I should get. Is the PC electrically challenged? Does anyone know the wattage of whatever vest they're using, and how warm does it keep you? I don't ride when it's below 40 out, but I do ride when it's in the 40's. ON the other hand, the PC has a nice big fairing, so I find that two sweatshirts under the leather jacket (plus an undersirt and teeshirt) is enough to keep me warm, pretty much (not toasty, mind you, but not miserable). AS the the cassiar vest, it is something new being made buy a guy here in Ohio. THe deal is that instead of wires it uses a new textile called Gorix, which is a carbon fiber mesh of some kind. When electricity goes through it, it warms up, but if it gets a tear or a hole, electricity just goes around the hole and the vest doesn't fail. The url is http://www.gr8designs.com if anyone wants to learn more. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:19:57 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? How much are these vests? I couldn't find any pricing on the site... Personally, I would probably go with the 45 watt unit, since if it is below 20 degrees, I flat out don't ride. Plus, we all know that the PC has a rather weak charging system too... Rich Fenwick At 11:02 AM 10/06/2000 -0700, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: > >Hi, > >I am seriously considering getting the grosjean Cassiar vest, if any >of you know about it (if not, more below). > >He has a 45 watt version and an 80 watt version. The 45 watt version >is for electrically challenged bikes. I am looking for opinions as to >which I should get. > >Is the PC electrically challenged? > >Does anyone know the wattage of whatever vest they're using, and how >warm does it keep you? I don't ride when it's below 40 out, but I do >ride when it's in the 40's. ON the other hand, the PC has a nice big >fairing, so I find that two sweatshirts under the leather jacket >(plus an undersirt and teeshirt) is enough to keep me warm, pretty >much (not toasty, mind you, but not miserable). > >AS the the cassiar vest, it is something new being made buy a guy >here in Ohio. THe deal is that instead of wires it uses a new textile >called Gorix, which is a carbon fiber mesh of some kind. When >electricity goes through it, it warms up, but if it gets a tear or a >hole, electricity just goes around the hole and the vest doesn't >fail. The url is http://www.gr8designs.com if anyone wants to learn >more. > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor >The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering >205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue >Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:23:44 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Here are the specs on my hot bod (only when plugged in however:-). I have these 4 items from Gerbing: jacket: 77 watts pants: 44 watts gloves: 22 watts socks: 22 watts I can ride all day with my heat controller turned up full (too hot for riding at 55 mph, but I've used it on full on the Interstates at 75 mph), with all 4 items (165 watts) turned on. I've never had a problem starting my bike at the end of the day. When I slow down in the cities I turn down the heat controller anyway so that gives the battery a chance to recharge between on/off cycles of the controller. When I also turn on my dual 55 watt driving lights that's a bit too much for long periods of time even at high speed so at night I make sure I shut off the lights, or turn down the suit about 20 minutes before I know I need to stop the bike. I don't have to turn off the suit, just adjust the heat controller so it is not on as long. The best investment you can make to go along with the heated clothes is a Battery Monitor (tri-color LED) from Sport Touring Accessories for about $35. This is how I know if my heated suit is taking more electricity out of the battery than the charging system is putting back in at any given time. As long as I see even short periods of charging, indicated by a green color to the LED, I know I will be OK to stop the bike whenever I want. If I see red for a long time then I know I'm only taking juice from my battery on not putting any back in. That's OK for short periods, but should not go on for too long. If I've not been too clear with this, or you need more info, let me know. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: > >Hi, > >I am seriously considering getting the grosjean Cassiar vest, if any >of you know about it (if not, more below). > >He has a 45 watt version and an 80 watt version. The 45 watt version >is for electrically challenged bikes. I am looking for opinions as to >which I should get. > >Is the PC electrically challenged? > >Does anyone know the wattage of whatever vest they're using, and how >warm does it keep you? I don't ride when it's below 40 out, but I do >ride when it's in the 40's. ON the other hand, the PC has a nice big >fairing, so I find that two sweatshirts under the leather jacket >(plus an undersirt and teeshirt) is enough to keep me warm, pretty >much (not toasty, mind you, but not miserable). > >AS the the cassiar vest, it is something new being made buy a guy >here in Ohio. THe deal is that instead of wires it uses a new textile >called Gorix, which is a carbon fiber mesh of some kind. When >electricity goes through it, it warms up, but if it gets a tear or a >hole, electricity just goes around the hole and the vest doesn't >fail. The url is http://www.gr8designs.com if anyone wants to learn >more. > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor >The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering >205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue >Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:29:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:29:07 -0500 Hi Betty, I met Doug at Daytona this year and looked at his prototype vest and talked with him for a good while around the campfire. I was impressed. I have the old style Widder vest and it only draws about 35 watts. I only have an off/on switch and I can't leave it on high all the time without toasting. The 45 watt vest should be plenty, especially if you are only wanting to ride in 40's temps. Getting a thermostat would make it wonderful. I think the 80 watter is more for the hard core single digit riders. As far as the PC being electrically challenged, I ran two 55 watt lights in addition to my headlight on bright for about 4 hours and had to push the bike off after stopping to fill up with gas. The battery was dead. I left the two lights off and ran the headlight on low and the battery charged up quickly. based on my problem, I assume that the PC only has about 80-90 watts to spare. If you get the vest, report back. I would like to know what you think. I may want to try one myself. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Betty Lise Anderson" To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? > > Hi, > > I am seriously considering getting the grosjean Cassiar vest, if any > of you know about it (if not, more below). > > He has a 45 watt version and an 80 watt version. The 45 watt version > is for electrically challenged bikes. I am looking for opinions as to > which I should get. > > Is the PC electrically challenged? > > Does anyone know the wattage of whatever vest they're using, and how > warm does it keep you? I don't ride when it's below 40 out, but I do > ride when it's in the 40's. ON the other hand, the PC has a nice big > fairing, so I find that two sweatshirts under the leather jacket > (plus an undersirt and teeshirt) is enough to keep me warm, pretty > much (not toasty, mind you, but not miserable). > > AS the the cassiar vest, it is something new being made buy a guy > here in Ohio. THe deal is that instead of wires it uses a new textile > called Gorix, which is a carbon fiber mesh of some kind. When > electricity goes through it, it warms up, but if it gets a tear or a > hole, electricity just goes around the hole and the vest doesn't > fail. The url is http://www.gr8designs.com if anyone wants to learn > more. > > Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor > The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering > 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue > Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 > http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:05:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Beginning Rider "Revill Dunn" writes > But my recommendation is that you try riding the PC. It's really a very > forgiving, easy to ride bike. Much more so than anything else I know of > out there bigger than a 500. At low speeds (where most newbies get > flummoxed) it is the easiest handling bike I've ever sat on. That's why > it is such a nice commuter. And, you can both ride it (together) and take > turns at the handlebars, with that proverbial jug of wine and loaf of > bread in the trunk. I'm afraid I have to disagree strongly with this. A PC is a terrible beginner's bike. Beginning motorcycle riders have to rely on strength, rather than finesse to maneuver the bike. My wife probably uses more muscle power to maneuver her 125cc Honda single than I do on the PC, which weighs 400 pounds more. The secret is that I rarely get into out of balance situations, and I use the engine to move the bike, rather than my muscles. Beginning riders DO lose their balance, and doing so should not lead to several hundreds of dollars worth of damage. Look for a light, cheap, naked bike, preferably one that can tip without costing significant amounts of money. And leave the jug of wine in the trunk. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Is this just a US group? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:04:33 +0100 Seems you guys dont like Brits?? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Godfrey Smith Chief Content Engineer Internet Digital Media Ltd (A Gameplay company) 8-14 Stanley Rd London SW19 8RF www.idm.co.uk p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 e: godfrey@idm.co.uk +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:22:14 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Rider Seldon takes exception to my suggestion that the PC is a good bike to learn on. His point that a new rider doesn't have the balance thing down quite yet is valid. I admit that it's been, what ..... that long? Naah. Yes it has. A very long time since I was a beginner, and I am not an instructor. So. The PC feels to me like it has virtual training wheels. That's in comparison to lots and lots of other bikes, many of them fairly large. A true beginner might not feel the same, I'll admit. And, if you can find one, a 250 single is THE way to go. Even though you'll be ready to move up in a few months. Can you all really find one for $500? I haven't seen anything in the paper less than 500cc for ages now. Or for less than $1,500 either. About that jug of wine; the concept of having a spouse who actually wanted to participate as a motorcyclist sounded so nice to me, that I tossed that in. The jug should stay in the trunk, at least until you get to that perfect romantic picnic site. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: Is this just a US group? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:18:09 +0100 > Pardon me for asking, but why do you think there is antipathy > against anyone? Hi Bruce, Thank you for your kind reply. The reason I ask is I posted an introduction and asked a few questions and no one replied at all. Afterwards someone else asked a question and got 4 replies within minutes. I thought maybe it was just US orientated. Thanks again Godfrey > -----Original Message----- > From: Pickett, Bruce D [mailto:Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com] > Sent: 06 October 2000 17:21 > To: 'Godfrey Smith' > Subject: RE: PC800: Is this just a US group? > > > Godfrey, > > While the majority of subscribers are Yanks (but don't call > the Texans that), it really is an international community. > There are several Brits on the list, as well as Canadians, > Netherlanders, Norwegians, Poles, Austrians, Australians, and > one person from Hong Kong. > > Pardon me for asking, but why do you think there is antipathy > against anyone? > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Godfrey Smith [mailto:godfrey@idm.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:05 AM > To: Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail) > Subject: PC800: Is this just a US group? > > > Seems you guys dont like Brits?? > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Godfrey Smith > Chief Content Engineer > Internet Digital Media Ltd > (A Gameplay company) > 8-14 Stanley Rd > London > SW19 8RF > www.idm.co.uk > p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 > f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 > e: godfrey@idm.co.uk > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the > body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:51:15 -0400 12:22 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: New Rider I have helped several new riders. With some success they have purchased 125cc street trail bikes. We have the fortunate option to start our riding lessons in a flat field that accommodates tip overs very well. After the basics of keeping the bike upright, stopping and starting are learned we move on to isolated back roads and side streets. I truly feel that learning to ride on soft ground teaches riders skills needed in certain situations. Ahhh the glories of clean country living... FYI Kenneth Winter East TN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: Is this just a US group? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:41:05 +0100 > May I ask how much you gave for your PC? Hi there Sure, the bike cost just under =A33000 UKP a year ago It was a toss up between a BMW KLT fully dressed or a new Honda = Deauville 600 or a Pan Euro when I found this grey import in a little bike shop = in Ealing, West London After 2 mins riding I knew this was the best choice, More tourer than = the Deauville, Not as bulky as the BMW or the Pan. Never regretted buying it but had a bit of trouble getting the right = tyres (tires I think you guys call 'em) and it seems like this might be the = case for other replacements needed.=20 Honda never sold the pc in the UK unless it was imported as new and therefore spares etc have to be shipped in. Never the less its a brilliant bike and quite a novelty (even the = British police are bemused and captivated as the draw alongside on their pan = euro's) The budget hasn't really been set to fix the horse but I guess the = exhaust is going to sting a bit. The plastic replacements are not too much trouble for me to handle but = will leave the fairing for a bike mechanic to wrestle with as I don't have = the off road space needed to attempt the job. Regards Godfrey > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth [mailto:klw@centurytel.net] > Sent: 06 October 2000 17:43 > To: Godfrey Smith > Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? >=20 >=20 > Godfrey, > I like Britts. Thought about becoming one once. Changed my mind. >=20 > May I ask how much you gave for your PC? >=20 > I am sure you will get several responses soon. The list=20 > members are a > great source of information. How much have you alotted to=20 > fix your PC? > Based on your brief discription it sounds like it could cost=20 > well over $700. > Some of the recently downed bike owners can share cost info=20 > with you. I > rebuilt a right front main fairing and the windshield molding=20 > to save money. > It can be done but it is time consuming. >=20 > Kenneth Winter > East TN >=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:08:35 -0700 Subject: PC800: Nighthawks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) The bike I had before the PC was a Nighthawk 750. It, and every 750 I saw, was chain driven. Great bike for the price, I bought mine a year old but new from a dealer, added a center stand and a windshield, and rode it for 2 years in Los Angeles. It was fast, pretty easy to take care of, and never gave me a problem. I got rid of it because I wanted hard luggage but didn't like the options available for it. Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:11:40 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? To: godfrey@idm.co.uk Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) This is very much a world wide group and I'm sure you will get many responses from others in the UK when they check their email. I frequently ride with Canadians, and you don't get much more foreign than that around here (just kidding guys...don't close the border). I'm sure you will get more email than you can handle as people here in the US get home from work in a few hours and start checking their email. We love Brits over here, we just got tired of bowing to some of them in the 18th century:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" godfrey@idm.co.uk writes: >Seems you guys dont like Brits?? > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >Godfrey Smith >Chief Content Engineer >Internet Digital Media Ltd >(A Gameplay company) >8-14 Stanley Rd >London >SW19 8RF >www.idm.co.uk >p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 >f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 >e: godfrey@idm.co.uk >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:12:20 -0700 Subject: PC800: Los Angeles sighting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) Hey! Saw a white PC pull out of a USC parking lot on Wednesday at around 6pm. Anyone on the list? Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:21:53 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:21:40 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 From: Daryl Tschoepe To: PC800 Emile, US spec have had chains since Honda replaced the 700SC with the 750SC. http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2000/sport/nighthawk_750/index.html I think most of the rest of the world kept a shaft. Bizarre. later, Daryl It's possible that on 10/6/00 8:21 AM, Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK at Emile.Nossin@klm.nl hurled this into the void... > I'm sure all Nighthawks at least had a shaft drive.. > I can't surf from here but I know the technical > description is on www.honda.com .. > >> ---------- >> From: Great Ned[SMTP:greatned@quik.com] >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:04 PM >> To: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK; PC800 List >> Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 >> >> I think it's a chain, Emile, but I don't have the URL so you can see the >> links....heh heh heh >> >> Lee >> >> >> . It doesn't even look >>> like a sportbike.. no fairing.. shaft drive... weird... >>> >>> Emile >>> www.st1100.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged > material intended for the addressee only. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:37:17 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:38:13 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Jim Alexander Subject: PC800: Good article on the new GoldWing on Speedvision.com Very good article written about the new GoldWing on Speedvision.COM website. It is not just a technical article, it looks at the development of the new GoldWing. The Large Project Leader of the new GoldWing, Masanori Aoki, is the same guy who was LPL for the NSR250R, the CBR250RR, the CBR400RR and the CBR600F3. That tells you why the things changed so much for the wing while retaining the look of the wing. The link is http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/08CNews/001005a.html Here is a few paragraphs from the article: "We began noticing a significant number of younger couples-people in their late 20s to mid 30s--who really liked the level of amenities a Gold Wing provides--but wanted a motorcycle that embodied a younger, more performance-oriented image," says Gary Christopher, Honda's senior manager, motorcycle press and motorsports. Further research revealed the desire for a motorcycle with traditional Gold Wing virtues such as luxury, reliability and transcontinental comfort, but with a much more powerful, athletic persona. "To us, that means achieving a level of comfort that has always been synonymous with the model, plus adding a much broader performance envelope and styling to match," says Christopher. "You don't have to choose between luxury and high performance anymore." The story began in 1993, when Honda's Asaka, Japan, Research & Development facility began work on a totally new Gold Wing. At the same time, a decision was made to put a younger engineer in charge of the project. Masanori Aoki is the Large Project Leader (LPL) on the Gold Wing. At 33 years of age, Aoki became the LPL for the NSR250R-the youngest LPL in Honda history. By the time Aoki was selected to head development of the Gold Wing, his LPL's rŽsumŽ featured a number of high-performance motorcycles including the CBR(r)250RR, CBR400RR, and the CBR600F3. Masa-san, now 46, is a sport bike guy, which is exactly why he was chosen to lead the Gold Wing project. "We set out to keep 80 percent of the Gold Wing's touring capability," Aoki says. "That's a vital foundation. My job is to add more fun factor to the machine, to build a Gold Wing with the kind of acceleration and handling people normally associate with sporting machines." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Betty Lise Anderson'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:37:26 -0700 Has anyone been able to email the vest maker "Gr.8 Designs"? I twice tried sending a note to the address listed on their web page(douggrosjean@gr8designs.com), and each one was rejected. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Betty Lise Anderson [mailto:anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:03 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? Hi, I am seriously considering getting the grosjean Cassiar vest, if any of you know about it (if not, more below). He has a 45 watt version and an 80 watt version. The 45 watt version is for electrically challenged bikes. I am looking for opinions as to which I should get. Is the PC electrically challenged? Does anyone know the wattage of whatever vest they're using, and how warm does it keep you? I don't ride when it's below 40 out, but I do ride when it's in the 40's. ON the other hand, the PC has a nice big fairing, so I find that two sweatshirts under the leather jacket (plus an undersirt and teeshirt) is enough to keep me warm, pretty much (not toasty, mind you, but not miserable). AS the the cassiar vest, it is something new being made buy a guy here in Ohio. THe deal is that instead of wires it uses a new textile called Gorix, which is a carbon fiber mesh of some kind. When electricity goes through it, it warms up, but if it gets a tear or a hole, electricity just goes around the hole and the vest doesn't fail. The url is http://www.gr8designs.com if anyone wants to learn more. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:39:51 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:40:47 -0700 To: Godfrey Smith , "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? Aw, come on ... we love Brits ... you just spell English words funny ... like colour ... you add those pesky extra vowels. Jim Alexander At 09:04 AM 10/06/2000, Godfrey Smith wrote: > >Seems you guys dont like Brits?? > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >Godfrey Smith >Chief Content Engineer >Internet Digital Media Ltd >(A Gameplay company) >8-14 Stanley Rd >London >SW19 8RF >www.idm.co.uk >p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 >f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 >e: godfrey@idm.co.uk >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G20SH604.V9N for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:55:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Ste. Genevieve Ride pictures up... Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:53:56 -0500 You can view 10 of them at: http://pc_800.tripod.com/events.html Yet another great ride in the midwest.... (Proving yet again that you don't have to ride a day or two to find fun around here...) Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "joannie" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:01:11 -0500 I would replace it with a CBR 1100 XX, since my last bike was an ST1100 - 38,000 miles. The ST is a great bike. With the XX and the PC, it is also nice to be able to almost get my feet on the ground. :*) Joannie CBR 1100 XX 98 PC 800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter P. Kaputsos To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 >INFORMAL POLL: > >Today, if your PC800 were to die and be beyond repair, >what would you replace it with? > >Thank you for your response. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list" , "Jim Alexander" Subject: Re: PC800: Good article on the new GoldWing on Speedvision.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:44:34 -0400 Speaking of the new Gold Wing. Francois and I got to sit on one this past week. 1800cc v6 Wow. The test engineer said it does one heck of a wheelie with a passenger on board... :o) Kenneth Winter East TN ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:38 PM Subject: PC800: Good article on the new GoldWing on Speedvision.com > Very good article written about the new GoldWing on Speedvision.COM > website. It is not just a technical article, it looks at the development of > the new GoldWing. The Large Project Leader of the new GoldWing, Masanori > Aoki, is the same guy who was LPL for the NSR250R, the CBR250RR, the > CBR400RR and the CBR600F3. That tells you why the things changed so much > for the wing while retaining the look of the wing. > > The link is > http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/08CNews/001005a.html > > Here is a few paragraphs from the article: > > > "We began noticing a significant number of younger couples-people > in their late 20s to mid 30s--who really liked the level of amenities a > Gold Wing provides--but wanted a motorcycle that embodied a > younger, more performance-oriented image," says Gary Christopher, > Honda's senior manager, motorcycle press and motorsports. > > Further research revealed the desire for a motorcycle with traditional > Gold Wing virtues such as luxury, reliability and transcontinental > comfort, but with a much more powerful, athletic persona. > > "To us, that means achieving a level of comfort that has always been > synonymous with the model, plus adding a much broader > performance envelope and styling to match," says Christopher. "You > don't have to choose between luxury and high performance > anymore." > > The story began in 1993, when Honda's Asaka, Japan, Research & > Development facility began work on a totally new Gold Wing. At the > same time, a decision was made to put a younger engineer in charge > of the project. > > Masanori Aoki is the Large Project Leader (LPL) on the Gold Wing. > At 33 years of age, Aoki became the LPL for the NSR250R-the > youngest LPL in Honda history. By the time Aoki was selected to > head development of the Gold Wing, his LPL's rŽsumŽ > featured a number of high-performance motorcycles including the > CBR(r)250RR, CBR400RR, and the CBR600F3. Masa-san, now 46, is a > sport bike guy, which is exactly why he was chosen to lead the Gold > Wing project. > > "We set out to keep 80 percent of the Gold Wing's touring > capability," Aoki says. "That's a vital foundation. My job is to add > more fun factor to the machine, to build a Gold Wing with the kind of > acceleration and handling people normally associate with sporting > machines." > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:43:05 -0300 To: Godfrey Smith , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Hello Hello from Halifax, Godfrey, and welcome to the group. I run the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ it's for people to store their maint and repair records for their own use, and for sharing that info with other PC riders. It would be great to have your bike's purchase, maintenance and repair data in the system, since the more bikes are there, the more useful the database is. >The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs >replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune for >this repair. I've replaced two on my partner's '89 and my '96 now wants one too. The muffler itself, here, is 511$Cdn, (that's 342$US or =A3236KP) and for me to do the work was about 2.5 hours, and I know my time to do work is pretty close to my shop's estimate. >My first question is :- >can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda Original >equipment only? The exhaust is one of the weirdest shape things you'll ever see -- most similar to an inflated bagpipe cast in steel. I would be -very- surprised if anything else fits it. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:51:10 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Good article on the new GoldWing on Speedvision.com Kenneth wrote: > > Speaking of the new Gold Wing. Francois and I got to sit on one this past > week. 1800cc v6 Wow. The test engineer said it does one heck of a wheelie > with a passenger on board... :o) Not V6, flat (boxer) 6. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Harvey Sattin To: "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Speed Bleeders Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:11:21 -0400 Has anyone on the list put speedbleeders on their PC? http://www.speedbleeder.com If so, which model did you buy? How do you like them? ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:17:07 -0700 >From the list I have heard about some pretty steep prices for the OEM (Honda) oil filter. I pay $10.75 US from my local Santa Barbara Dealer: Honda of Santa Barbara 408 Chapara St Santa Barbara, CA 805-965-4814 (no web site) What do others pay? Are there some Honda dealer sites selling the OEM filter? I remember that comparisen study that was passed around the list a few months ago. - It had a Honda filter ranked about best in terms of filter surface area, etc. compared to several others from Fram, etc. Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 Mhz" 47,000 mi Santa Barbara County, USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:25:25 -0700 Tim, Do you use only one controller for it all? How does it all plug in together? Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? >Here are the specs on my hot bod (only when plugged in however:-). I have these >4 items from Gerbing: > >jacket: 77 watts >pants: 44 watts >gloves: 22 watts >socks: 22 watts > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Godfrey Smith" , "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:30:58 -0700 What makes you think that?? This is a international group of riders who have something in common, love to ride their PC's. Probably the largest portion of the riders live in the US, but that does not/t mean anything. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail) Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:12 AM Subject: PC800: Is this just a US group? >Seems you guys dont like Brits?? > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >Godfrey Smith >Chief Content Engineer >Internet Digital Media Ltd >(A Gameplay company) >8-14 Stanley Rd >London >SW19 8RF >www.idm.co.uk >p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 >f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 >e: godfrey@idm.co.uk >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:29:10 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jdcpc" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Suits Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:32:28 -0700 Hello all! On the Y2K ride I notice several style jackets and pants were used. I personally have a Fieldsheer one piece suit. I love it, actually, except it's too big and cumbersome. It's inconvenient in a restaurant, or ladies room. Besides, it makes me look VERY fat (important consideration). JT said he found the perfect setup with his Motoport set. I noticed L7ee's pants were very stylish. Emile set up my home page with a motorcycle site and I've looked through there at several brands jackets and pants. I have a couple of questions for you's experienced folks: Why do you like your setup and what is it? Have you in the States ever ordered from overseas vendors and what was that experience like? What about sizes and getting a good fit? Armor is important to me -- as of September 14 :) Anybody have any connections with superstores that carry lots of brands? There are huge price differences in brands and styles, but I'm not sure why, except for the "bells & whistles." I am going to the huge motorcycle show in San Jose, Ca in November and am collecting information before I go -- just in case I find EXACTLY what I want. Then I'll find my Fieldsheer suit a better home. Thanks everybody for your input! Joyce Sonoma County, Ca '96 Red Rolls -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 16:32:56 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? To: rstar@aa.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) One controller does it all, but they also have a dual controller available so you could adjust your top separate from your bottom. The gloves plug into the sleeves of the jacket liner, the pants plug into the jacket liner near the waist and the socks plug into the pant liner legs. The controller plugs into a second wire near the waist of the jacket liner. The controller is not a thermostat, but rather a solid state automatic on/off switch. You vary the on/off rate setting with the control knob. With a dual controller I could have the jacket/gloves and the pants/socks set for different heating rates. My liners are all quilted, but you can also get unquiltted or have them install wires in the lining of an existing jacket. I feel the warmest when I am wearing the least amount of clothing under the suit. Bulky clothing under there defeats the usefulness of the heated liners. I bought the build in controller at the January motorcycle show in Toronto and installed it this spring. I like it much better than the portable one I had, fewer wires and no external box to find a place for on you. The portable is nice if you havemore than one bike. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" rstar@aa.net writes: >Tim, >Do you use only one controller for it all? How does it all plug in >together? > >Will Edwards rstar@aa.net >http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. >-----Original Message----- >From: PC800 Rider >Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? >>Here are the specs on my hot bod (only when plugged in however:-). I >have these >>4 items from Gerbing: >> >>jacket: 77 watts >>pants: 44 watts >>gloves: 22 watts >>socks: 22 watts -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:38:55 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Texas Hill Country Ride To: tschoepe@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Daryl, Have we a date yet? I am still waiting for an answer for my other commitment, but I can go any Sunday as stated before.... Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:51:30 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: jkrause@foarm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? Jeff Krause writes: > > >From the list I have heard about some pretty steep > prices for the OEM (Honda) oil filter. > > I pay $10.75 US from my local Santa Barbara Dealer: [...] > What do others pay? > Are there some Honda dealer sites selling the OEM filter? Bought some at Wing Ding XX and more at the Honda Hoot this year for about $6.50 each. Am told that is about the same the competitive mail order places charge. Also be aware this is the same filter Honda uses on most industrial engines, and Kawasaki uses for same (ie: John Deere). -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:54:11 +0100 From: ijmcnaughton To: Godfrey Smith , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hello Hello Godfrey, This is Ian McNaughton,I live in Derbyshire,just got your mail.Disappointingly this is a mainly American orientated list,I asked the question recently"How many PCers subscribe in the UK?"I received one answer! But do not despair,there is a thriving UK PCOC.We recently held our annual rally in S.Wales and there were I think 25 bikes.For more details try: gbpc800@aol.com (Gary Beattie Sec.) brian.millman@ntlworld.com(editor) www.ipcrc.org(my bike is the one closest in the last picture) As a footnote there is a breaker local to me with an 89 model in.The exhaust is no good(I looked last year when mine went)but there may be a lot of odd parts if your stuck.Dont hesitate to call if you need any info as I have a service manual. Regards Ian 90PC800 K75 Godfrey Smith wrote: > Hi there all bikers everywhere, > My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. > I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. > > I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head turner. > I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. > > Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group could help > me maintain my bike by suppling information. > > The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs > replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune for > this repair. > Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a replacement > section £350UKP but another £150UKP for fitting as the bike has to be > stripped down quite a lot. > > My first question is :- > can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda Original > equipment only? > > Second question > The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and needs new > fairing and mirrors > what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? > > I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of meets > and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active > > Thanks in advance > Godfrey > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Godfrey Smith > Chief Content Engineer > Internet Digital Media Ltd > (A Gameplay company) > 8-14 Stanley Rd > London > SW19 8RF > www.gameplay.com > p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 > f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 > e: godfrey@idm.co.uk > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:05:49 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Renaissance Fair near Houston If any of you listers out there are going to the Renaissance Festival near Houston this weekend, look out for my daughter, Elona. She's part of the entertainment. She and her friends are Fairies, wandering around and being flighty like fairies are supposed to. You can recognise her pretty easily. She is the pretty one with the long wavy hair down to there. Nice set of wings too. Don't ask her if she's my daughter; she'll repond in Fairy. (We have to stay in character, Daddy!) A proud parent. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "eddie" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Re:Nighthawks. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:16:02 -0400 Only the CB650SC and the Nighthawk "S" 700cc models were shafties. The rest had chains. -eddie 1989 Transalp 600 (Traded a 1993 CB750 Nighthawk in on the) 1996 PC800. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'jdcpc'" , PC 800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Suits Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:15:04 -0700 Joyce, I have the Joe Rocket Ballistic Jacket and Pants (http://www.joerocket.com). I bought mine last December from Seattle Cycle Center (http://ssl.adhost.com/seattlecycle/merchant.cfm) at the Seattle International Motorcycle Show. Competition Accessories, and Milpitas Honda carry them, too. I like them because : * they are waterproof (with a barrier film similar to Gore-tex, but a different brand); * they zip together to keep the pants up and the jacket down (and function much like a suit); * they can be worn separately, if desired; * they are heavy Cordura nylon 600 denier in body with 1050 overlay in shoulders, elbows, and knees; * they have removable, compressible foam, armor inserts in shoulders, elbows, and knees; * they have lots of pockets * they are less expensive than most other brands (pants=$130, jacket=$230 at Seattle Cycle Center ) * they fit nice (well, they did when I bought them - they're a little baggy after losing 40 lbs of weight); * the jacket has a removable insulating liner in the body; * the jacket has zippered arm and back vents; * the pants legs are zippered along the side up to the hip so you may get them on and off without having to remove your boots; and, * they came in purple (okay, you can have red, blue, yellow, or black, too. Time for another colour thread?). Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jdcpc [mailto:jdcpc@email.msn.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:32 PM To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Suits Hello all! On the Y2K ride I notice several style jackets and pants were used. I personally have a Fieldsheer one piece suit. I love it, actually, except it's too big and cumbersome. It's inconvenient in a restaurant, or ladies room. Besides, it makes me look VERY fat (important consideration). JT said he found the perfect setup with his Motoport set. I noticed L7ee's pants were very stylish. Emile set up my home page with a motorcycle site and I've looked through there at several brands jackets and pants. I have a couple of questions for you's experienced folks: Why do you like your setup and what is it? Have you in the States ever ordered from overseas vendors and what was that experience like? What about sizes and getting a good fit? Armor is important to me -- as of September 14 :) Anybody have any connections with superstores that carry lots of brands? There are huge price differences in brands and styles, but I'm not sure why, except for the "bells & whistles." I am going to the huge motorcycle show in San Jose, Ca in November and am collecting information before I go -- just in case I find EXACTLY what I want. Then I'll find my Fieldsheer suit a better home. Thanks everybody for your input! Joyce Sonoma County, Ca '96 Red Rolls -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? To: jkrause@foarm.com (Jeff Krause) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:28:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ("PC800 List (E-mail)") In an earlier email to me Jeff Krause said: > > From the list I have heard about some pretty steep > prices for the OEM (Honda) oil filter. > > I pay $10.75 US from my local Santa Barbara Dealer: > > What do others pay? > I got the MM9 (M99?) Honda oil filter a month ago from Dirt and Street Honda, in north central Phoenix, for $7.99 on sale. Guy said it was normally eight-something. -- Regards, Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazeco -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Hello Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:22:07 -0700 Ian, So, what is it about the UK that destroys PC mufflers? Is it from = riding on the wrong side of the road? (If its not on the right side, it = must be the wrong side, right?) ;-) Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ijmcnaughton [mailto:ijmcnaughton@netscapeonline.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:54 PM To: Godfrey Smith; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hello Hello Godfrey, This is Ian McNaughton,I live in Derbyshire,just = got your mail.Disappointingly this is a mainly American orientated list,I asked = the question recently"How many PCers subscribe in the UK?"I received one = answer! But do not despair,there is a thriving UK PCOC.We recently held our = annual rally in S.Wales and there were I think 25 bikes.For more details try: gbpc800@aol.com (Gary Beattie Sec.) brian.millman@ntlworld.com(editor) www.ipcrc.org(my bike is the one closest = in the last picture) As a footnote there is a breaker local to me with an 89 = model in.The exhaust is no good(I looked last year when mine went)but there = may be a lot of odd parts if your stuck.Dont hesitate to call if you need any info as I have a = service manual. Regards Ian 90PC800 K75 Godfrey Smith wrote: > Hi there all bikers everywhere, > My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. > I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. > > I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head = turner. > I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. > > Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group = could help > me maintain my bike by suppling information. > > The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs > replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a = fortune for > this repair. > Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a = replacement > section =A3350UKP but another =A3150UKP for fitting as the bike has = to be > stripped down quite a lot. > > My first question is :- > can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda = Original > equipment only? > > Second question > The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and = needs new > fairing and mirrors > what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? > > I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of = meets > and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active > > Thanks in advance > Godfrey > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Godfrey Smith > Chief Content Engineer > Internet Digital Media Ltd > (A Gameplay company) > 8-14 Stanley Rd > London > SW19 8RF > www.gameplay.com > p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 > f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 > e: godfrey@idm.co.uk > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:19:51 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Fwd: Gr.8 Designs HEre is the asnwer I got from Doug Grosjean, and it includes pricing: >From: "Doug Grosjean" >To: "Anderson, Betty Lise" >Subject: Gr.8 Designs >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:39:53 -0400 > >Hi Betty, > ><< Where can I get a vest? >> > >Direct, normally ordered via e-mail. I'd need your measurements, waist, >hip, bust, we'd figure out what size would fit best and then I'd put you in >the queue. Orders are about 3 weeks right now, when the vest is nearly >ready to ship I'd ask for a check. Ideally, the check would arrive about >the same time the vest is done, and I'd ship the vest to you. > ><< If you sell them directly, what is the pricing? (I imagine I am asking >about the 80 watt version). >> > >Here's the URL for the price list: > >http://www.gr8designs.com/PriceList.html > > You didn't miss it, it was only created a few days ago.... Not sure that >the 80 watt will be offered in extremely large size or extremely small >size, due to concerns about plugs on the 4XL version (large is 80 watt, as >you go to bigger sizes wattage goes up a bit as well), and not sure about >the size 36 due to lack of interest (haven't sold or had an order for a 36 >yet) and due to concerns that nominal 80 watts spread over that small an >area might be a bit too much. > ><< How long till they are available? >> > >Can be ordered now, delivery time is about 3 weeks out at this point. > >Something that you didn't ask (and not on the website because I felt it >might be confusing) but that I think you'd find interesting given your >title is that the carbon-fibre has a negative temperature coefficient. >Copper wire vests are positive. So a conventional size 44 vest might start >with a 3.5 amp draw at 12 volts, then as it heats up drop to 3 amps. The >carbon-fibre panels in a 44 start at 3.5 amps also, but then as they warm >up they climb to nearly 4.0 amps. So while initially both vests are about >equal (aside from a lack of hot spots), once fully warmed up the Gr.8 vest >has a bit of an advantage. > >Based on the title in your sig line, am I correct to assume that the unique >characteristics of the Gorix fabric intrigue you? If so, Gorix has a >website also - go to www.gorix.com It really is interesting material to >work with. > > ><< check out the cool zip code 43210 >> > >Hehehe..... I probably wouldn't have noticed. Cool! > >Best, > >Doug Grosjean >Gr.8 Designs >Pemberville, Ohio >http://www.gr8designs.com > >Trip Reports, go to: >http://www.gr8designs.com/Trips/TripReports.html Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:39:58 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay Leihy" To: "Daryl Tschoepe" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:40:08 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Daryl Tschoepe" To: "PC800" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 > Emile, > > US spec have had chains since Honda replaced the 700SC with the 750SC. > > http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2000/sport/nighthawk_750/index.html > > I think most of the rest of the world kept a shaft. Bizarre. > > later, > > Daryl I think that US riders insist on the ability to counter-steer and wheelie. (Oops, guess that belongs on r.m. Must be the Denizen in me coming out.) Clay Leihy Burlington, NJ 89 PC "Lickity-Split" iPCRC#694 DoD#2160,6 "Let's go down the pub, get pissed, and beat the shite out of some American tourists." - Thugs on Film (for the appreciation of all you UK PCers out there. No, I'm American through and through, but I still think it's funny.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:03:55 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Good Luck Today,,,Considering. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:10:35 -0500 Hi,=20 I just couldn't help but relay this little story.... I rode up to the Monroe, WI Honda Dealer today. I used to work with a = guy who is a motorcycle fanatic--has 39 MOTORCYCLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = He now works at the Monroe Honda Shop. His official title is: = ServiceWriterMechanicSalesManagerPartsOrderingMeistro. Jeff is a good = friend to have because I can take the bike there and say, "Fix it", and = he'll do it right the first time and not screw (or wrench) me in the = process. He's even more of a perfectionist than I am, and that is a = GREAT thing to be when he is your bike mechanic. SIDE NOTE: (Me thinks this whole message is a side note!!!!!!) = Anywaaaaay, It was 39 degrees when I left the house. Wind chill must = have been below freezing!! About a 20 MPH constant wind with much = larger gusts. I have to extend MANY Thanks to Roger Prince!!!!! I = didn't freeze any extremities off during the ride. (Roger sold me some = riding pants and a jacket last week)=20 The reason for going to the Honda shop was for a repair estimate. I had = a little mishap (Yep...it happened again!) and was in need of the = estimate for insurance. Stormtrooper took a little fall to the tune of = $1350!!!!! I would like to see the profit Honda makes from those = stinkin' tupperware panels. =20 Anyway, as I was leaving, I said to Jeff that when he orders the parts, = I'll probably have him order me a service manual. He said, "Hold on." = and disappeared. He returned with an old issue of the Honda Service = Manual. It seems that if Honda makes a slight change to one manual, and = they automatically send each dealership the new one. (and of course, = they bill them automatically for it too!!) Lucky me!! I walked out with a service manual, and a little skip in my = step. (until I hit the 35 degree temperature outside!!!!!! = BRRRRRRRRRRR!! =20 That's all to my story.... Just thought I'd make a few of you jealous. = Sorry, I asked if he had another, but alas....not. Have a safe and WARM weekend everyone!! and..... "May the COAST be with you!" Mike (No Longer--Chilly Willie) Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net http://mrgunderson.tripod.com and=20 he'll do it right the first time and not screw (or wrench)  me in = the=20 process.  He's even more of a perfectionist than I am, and that is = a GREAT=20 thing to be when he is your bike mechanic.
 
SIDE NOTE:  (Me thinks this whole message is a side=20 note!!!!!!)   Anywaaaaay, It was 39 degrees when I left the=20 house.  Wind chill must have been below freezing!!  = About=20 a 20 MPH constant wind with much larger gusts.  I have to = extend MANY=20 Thanks to Roger Prince!!!!!   I didn't freeze any = extremities off=20 during the ride.  (Roger sold me some riding pants and a = jacket last=20 week) 
 
The reason for going to the Honda shop was for a repair = estimate.  I=20 had a little mishap  (Yep...it happened again!)  and was in = need=20 of the estimate for insurance.  Stormtrooper took a little = fall to the=20 tune of $1350!!!!!     I would like to see the = profit Honda=20 makes from those stinkin' tupperware panels.  
 
Anyway, as I was leaving, I said to Jeff that when he orders the = parts,=20 I'll probably have him order me a service manual.  He said, "Hold = on." and=20 disappeared.  He returned with an old issue of the Honda Service=20 Manual.  It seems that if Honda makes a slight change to one = manual, and=20 they automatically send each dealership the new one.  (and of = course,=20 they bill them automatically for it too!!)
 
Lucky me!!  I walked out with a service manual, and a little = skip in=20 my step.  (until I hit the 35 degree temperature=20 outside!!!!!!  BRRRRRRRRRRR!!
 
That's all to my story.... Just thought I'd make a few of you=20 jealous.  Sorry, I asked if he had another, but alas....not.
 
Have a safe and WARM weekend everyone!!
 
and.....
 
"May the COAST be with you!"
 
Mike (No Longer--Chilly Willie) Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 = Pacific=20 Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
http://mrgunderson.tripod.com<= /DIV> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:24:29 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "brian.millman" To: "Godfrey Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Hello Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:23:10 +0100 HI Godfrey and welcome to the list. I have just checked my mail and have picked up the 'thread' of your communications and I am sure that by now you will now have got a much better opinion of our Stateside friends - I sincerely hope so anyway! I have just returned from California where I had the pleasure of meeting many of these guys (and gals) at the end of their epic Y2K Ride and you will not find a finer bunch of folk. You must allow for the time difference, when we are awake most of them are sleeping and vice versa, but do not despair because if you want to know anything about a PC 800, you can be sure that one (or more) of these guys will have an answer for you if you are patient and wait for them to wake up. You have already been informed of the PCOC UK and that I am the editor of the newsletter. We get together in Wales every August and a Midland group get together monthly at various venues in the Midlands - and there is a quarterly newsletter of course. You are correct in thinking some parts may be difficult to obtain, but you will get whatever you want given time, even if you had to contact a Honda dealer in the USA ( Honda of Milpitas in California would be a good choice, they are on the web), you would be able to get what you wanted, but it is very likely that a UK Honda dealer would source what you wanted. Gary Beattie is the Club Secretary down in Merthyr Tydfil, and he does stock a fair few parts. It would be a good idea to contact him to see if he can assist you - at the same time why not join the club and keep in touch with a rare bunch of fine Brits - the PC Owners of the UK. There are 75 members so we really are an elite bunch! Believe me Godfrey, this superb machine that we all own is in a class of its own and I am certain that you will not only enjoy it enormously, but you will also enjoy the comradeship of this list. Apart from our American friends, you will get to hear from Emile, our friendly Flying Dutchman and a mine of information for the PC. We have now forgiven him for changing to a Pan E. because his input to the PC fraternity is invaluable. Check out his website at www.ipcrc.org Here you will find so much info.on all matters PC that you will be visiting the site everyday. This is where you will find some pics. of both our PCOC UK annual rallies in 1999 and 2000, along with a picture of my cherished 'Palm Tree PC'. Once again Godfrey, welcome to PC World, and I shall look forward to meeting you one day. Regards and safe riding, Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC800 - The Palm Tree PC ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Godfrey Smith To: Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu (E-mail) Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:44 PM Subject: PC800: Hello Hi there all bikers everywhere, My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head turner. I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group could help me maintain my bike by suppling information. The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune for this repair. Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a replacement section £350UKP but another £150UKP for fitting as the bike has to be stripped down quite a lot. My first question is :- can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda Original equipment only? Second question The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and needs new fairing and mirrors what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of meets and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active Thanks in advance Godfrey +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Godfrey Smith Chief Content Engineer Internet Digital Media Ltd (A Gameplay company) 8-14 Stanley Rd London SW19 8RF www.gameplay.com p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 e: godfrey@idm.co.uk +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:47:10 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Nighthawks To: raml@bus.usc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/6/2000 1:10:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raml@bus.usc.edu writes: << It, and every 750 I saw, was chain driven. >> I believe that the Nighthawk S was shaft-driven, but only it and the Nighthawk 650 of the early-80s were shaft, the rest were chain... I may be wrong... Troy Doyle 1997 PC800 Gabrielle Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:53:03 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? To: jkrause@foarm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/6/2000 4:14:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jkrause@foarm.com writes: << I pay $10.75 US from my local Santa Barbara Dealer: >> Mail order through Waynesville Cycle, about $6 bucks! Troy Doyle 1997 PC800 Gabrielle Summerville, SC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:08:32 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hpdrifter 68" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Electically Challenged? Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:08:31 EDT Someone advised Betty (45w vs. 80w vest) that the PC doesn't have 100 watts extra for accesories. Does anyone have experience with this? Tim - how about your full Gerbing's outfit? >From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) >To: rstar@aa.net >CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re(2): PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? >Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 16:32:56 -0400 >MHotMailBBA781EB002ED821EED081078023A3750; Fri Oct 06 13:32:53 2000 >fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB05784;Fri, 6 Oct 2000 >15:32:42 -0500 (CDT) >Fri, 06 Oct 2000 15:32:11 -0500 (CDT) >sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09385for ; >Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:32:01 -0500 (CDT) > >One controller does it all, but they also have a dual controller available >so >you could adjust your top separate from your bottom. The gloves plug into >the >sleeves of the jacket liner, the pants plug into the jacket liner near the >waist and the socks plug into the pant liner legs. The controller plugs >into a >second wire near the waist of the jacket liner. The controller is not a >thermostat, but rather a solid state automatic on/off switch. You vary the >on/off rate setting with the control knob. With a dual controller I could >have >the jacket/gloves and the pants/socks set for different heating rates. > >My liners are all quilted, but you can also get unquiltted or have them >install >wires in the lining of an existing jacket. I feel the warmest when I am >wearing >the least amount of clothing under the suit. Bulky clothing under there >defeats >the usefulness of the heated liners. > >I bought the build in controller at the January motorcycle show in Toronto >and >installed it this spring. I like it much better than the portable one I >had, >fewer wires and no external box to find a place for on you. The portable is >nice if you havemore than one bike. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > > > >rstar@aa.net writes: > >Tim, > >Do you use only one controller for it all? How does it all plug in > >together? > > > >Will Edwards rstar@aa.net > >http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html > >Washington State > >96 Honda PC800 > >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... > >. > >-----Original Message----- > >From: PC800 Rider > >Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a 80 W vest or a 45 W vest? > >>Here are the specs on my hot bod (only when plugged in however:-). I > >have these > >>4 items from Gerbing: > >> > >>jacket: 77 watts > >>pants: 44 watts > >>gloves: 22 watts > >>socks: 22 watts > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Bill Lucek '97 PC - DreamWeaver '...My course is as elusive as a shadow across the sky' _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 01:27:45 +0100 From: ijmcnaughton To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Right or wrong Hello Bruce We ride on the right side here in the UK,its the others that are wrong!!Its the fact that we get a zillion tons of rock salt on our roads every time we get a sniff of a frost that wrecks our exhaust systems,keeps us poor paying for the salt in our taxes,AND lets us ride all year round,to get to work,to earn money,to pay taxes,and exhausts etc.etc.(is this an Americanism,catch 22 ?) Regards Ian McNaughton 90PC with new Clearview,fancy dash,fancy stainless on boot(sorry trunk) BMW K75 (and a recent strong leaning towards,dare I say it,an ST) "Pickett, Bruce D" wrote: > Ian, > > So, what is it about the UK that destroys PC mufflers? Is it from riding on the wrong side of the road? (If its not on the right side, it must be the wrong side, right?) ;-) > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: ijmcnaughton [mailto:ijmcnaughton@netscapeonline.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:54 PM > To: Godfrey Smith; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Hello > > Hello Godfrey, > This is Ian McNaughton,I live in Derbyshire,just got your > mail.Disappointingly this is a mainly American orientated list,I asked the > question recently"How many PCers subscribe in the UK?"I received one answer! > But do not despair,there is a thriving UK PCOC.We recently held our annual rally > in S.Wales and there were I think 25 bikes.For more details try: > gbpc800@aol.com (Gary Beattie Sec.) > brian.millman@ntlworld.com(editor) > www.ipcrc.org(my bike is the one closest in the > last picture) As a footnote there is a breaker local to me with an 89 model > in.The exhaust is no good(I looked last year when mine went)but there may be a > lot of odd parts > if your stuck.Dont hesitate to call if you need any info as I have a service > manual. > Regards Ian > 90PC800 > K75 > > Godfrey Smith wrote: > > > Hi there all bikers everywhere, > > My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. > > I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. > > > > I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head turner. > > I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. > > > > Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group could help > > me maintain my bike by suppling information. > > > > The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs > > replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune for > > this repair. > > Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a replacement > > section £350UKP but another £150UKP for fitting as the bike has to be > > stripped down quite a lot. > > > > My first question is :- > > can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda Original > > equipment only? > > > > Second question > > The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and needs new > > fairing and mirrors > > what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? > > > > I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of meets > > and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active > > > > Thanks in advance > > Godfrey > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > Godfrey Smith > > Chief Content Engineer > > Internet Digital Media Ltd > > (A Gameplay company) > > 8-14 Stanley Rd > > London > > SW19 8RF > > www.gameplay.com > > p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 > > f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 > > e: godfrey@idm.co.uk > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G21BTW03.ZIL; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:53:56 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Jeff Krause" , "PC800 List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:51:58 -0500 I bought enough to last me a year while at Honda Homecoming 2000 @ $6.00 each. Locally, I'd have to pay twice that... Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: PC800 List (E-mail) Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:17 PM Subject: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? > From the list I have heard about some pretty steep > prices for the OEM (Honda) oil filter. > > I pay $10.75 US from my local Santa Barbara Dealer: > > Honda of Santa Barbara > 408 Chapara St > Santa Barbara, CA > 805-965-4814 > (no web site) > > > What do others pay? > Are there some Honda dealer sites selling the OEM filter? > > I remember that comparisen study that was passed around the list > a few months ago. - It had a Honda filter ranked about best > in terms of filter surface area, etc. compared to several others > from Fram, etc. > > > Jeff Krause > 95 PC "800 Mhz" > 47,000 mi > Santa Barbara County, USA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:07:29 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: ....Life After The PC800 To: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu, alvik@chello.no CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The bike that most reminds me of a PC (OK, a PC on steroids) a BMW R1100RT. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:44:06 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: ....Life After The PC800 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu As a successor (if held at gunpoint).... I'd find a fresh new ST1100. I'd have it shipped to Lee Barkers place in Redmond (got to stop and see him on my way to a conference Wednesday....he even bought lunch, wonderful man!). I figure with Lee's experience with PC800 / ST1100 cross-germination (Bruce, not another germane comment, okay?), and his successful grafting of the ST's front fender onto his PC, that we could take the ST1100, scalp it from the rear edge of the riders saddle rearwards, and graft on the back half of a PC! Hey, you'd have that gawd-awful, neck-jerking performance that Emile was showing off up and down the California coast, and that wonderful trunk that seals the deal for most of us. Also, it couldn't be uglier than that BMW my brother rides. Shoot, maybe we could even see about swapping out the front forks & fenders to get that old PC dishpan look going up front! Naw, leave her clean, like the '98's. Just my 2 pennies into the fountain. Your opinions WILL vary. Nope, I'm neither sane nor sober. Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:03:52 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Beginning Rider To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Like Rick Sener, I too had an '82 SilverWing Interstate. It WAS a nice mid-size tourer, but it was also (unfortunately) my first bike. I'm gonna guess that Rick had some cycling miles under his belt when he first straddled his HondaGuzzi. While the SilverWings (in all their iterations) are nice bikes, it would be a long ways down my list of recommendations for a beginners bike. The main reason is that the center of gravity is about 23 feet above the ground, and while it is much lighter than the PC, it is much less "confidence-inspiring" for a beginner, especially when cornering at more than parking lot speeds the first few times. The PC is WAY more reassuring, and comfortable, even with it's more considerable weight, since the center of gravity is so low. Sorry Rick. I too grew to love the Interstate, but as a beginners bike, the C of G just makes me thinks of lots of other better alternatives. Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 (Second bike, and loving it) "Nata Harli" HSTA #9479 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:32:53 EDT Subject: PC800: A British Hello to PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Noticed in Ian's message to Brian the following comment -- "As a footnote there is a breaker local to me..." Lee -- For a Million Dollars and without using your life line >> What is a Breaker? Gordon Creed 96 PC800 Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Great Ned" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 of "Fri, 06 Oct 2000 05:55:52 PDT." <002901c02f94$c3c4e520$6409b0d8@v6t4o3> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 23:21:52 -0500 "Great Ned" writes: > And why, David, now that you have been "inside" the Honda design brain, > would you want a bike that has those goofy turn signal controls? If they don't have Japanese Turn Signal Conversion Kits yet, were I to get a BMW I might go into that business. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CNER@aol.com for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:39:42 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Beginning Rider To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Dean, you are quite right in assuming that I had a few miles under my belt on other bikes before I straddled my first GL 500 Silverwing. I ALSO feel that it has a relatively high center of gravity. With not too many of them around anymore, I looked around for a bike to replace it with some of the features that I had grown to like about the GL500. I'd look for preferably a Honda, twin cylinder, liquid cooled, shaft drive, traditional riding position, and a comfortable straddle height. Voila ! A PC800. Seemed like a natural transition to me. It was. OK, so maybe it isn't the perfect starter bike but I did sell two of the many Honda 500s I've owned to women, one of which was a true beginner buying her first bike. She seemed to handle it quite well. Maybe we are analyzing all these options too much and should take into account that most people are adaptable. Who knows, maybe there are a few of us that took our first solo ride on a Goldwing! Have a great weekend - All !!! Rick Sener '89 PC - "Summer Snow" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:50:52 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Renaissance Fair near Houston Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:48:19 -0500 Warn her not to get too close to the guy that died at the renaissance festival in Hot Springs Ark last fall. He was wearing a skirt and when he died in a fight, it was obvious that the skirt was all he was wearing. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" > If any of you listers out there are going to the Renaissance Festival near > Houston this weekend, look out for my daughter, Elona. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 7 Oct 2000 02:14:30 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Revill Dunn" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:47:49 -0500 Revill, and all, I happened to look at the classifieds today. There are hundreds of great beginners bikes for $500-$1500 dollars. Also, there is a late model ('96 or newer with 7500 miles for $4000 obo. I'd really like to move up[ from mine, but....... Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: PC800: New Rider > Seldon takes exception to my suggestion that the PC is a good bike to learn on. > His point that a new rider doesn't have the balance thing down quite yet is > valid. I admit that it's been, what ..... that long? Naah. Yes it has. A > very long time since I was a beginner, and I am not an instructor. So. The PC > feels to me like it has virtual training wheels. That's in comparison to lots > and lots of other bikes, many of them fairly large. A true beginner might not > feel the same, I'll admit. > > And, if you can find one, a 250 single is THE way to go. Even though you'll be > ready to move up in a few months. Can you all really find one for $500? I > haven't seen anything in the paper less than 500cc for ages now. Or for less > than $1,500 either. > > About that jug of wine; the concept of having a spouse who actually wanted to > participate as a motorcyclist sounded so nice to me, that I tossed that in. > The jug should stay in the trunk, at least until you get to that perfect > romantic picnic site. > > > Revill > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:48:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Oil Filter prices I pay $10.75 - what do YOU pay? and where? To: Jeff Krause , "PC800 List \(E-mail\)" I was paying $13.47(12.25 filter plus .25 washer plus .97 tax) at San Diego House of Motorcycles. Then I paid $12.13 ($10.98 filter, .28 washer, .87 tax) at San Diego Fun Bike Center. Now I pay $7.68 (filter, washer, tax, shipping & handling included) at Honda of Milpitas. I ordered six via e-mail and they arrived after two working days. $ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2000 06:59:17 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bruce Pickett" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Oil leak Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:58:19 -0700 I started a thread a couple of weeks ago regarding "Blue smoke &oil leak", and received a number of great suggestions (as well as some that were not so germane). Russ Goff suggested that the oil leak may be from the clutch push rod oil seal, which is behind the clutch slave cylinder on the left side of the engine casing. I examined this and took some photos, which may be viewed at http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Oilleak.html. It appears that Russ is correct (that motorcycle mechanic certification paid off after all, eh?), because there is indeed fresh oil behind the clutch slave cylinder. However, it is not conclusive that this is the ONLY leak, for there also appears to be oil deposits (albiet older ones) on the engine casing ABOVE the clutch slave cylinder. While I have the clutch slave cylinder dismounted, I was considering running the bike on its stand to see if I could confirm that oil does leak past the oil seal. This would mean that the clutch would be inoperative. Is there any reason why I should NOT do this, or are there any precautions I should take? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Russell seat and Garmin GPS III+ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 02:08:21 -0700 Someone posted a request to see a Russell seat, so I uploaded a few to PhotoPoint for who ever is interested. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=9243877 Also, for those who like toys for their PC, I uploaded photo's of how I mounted a Garmin GPS III+ using ram-mounts from: www.ram-mount.com They can purchased from: http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gps_mounts.html The mounting photo's are at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=9243876 I thought about using Velcro to attached to the top of the clutch receiver, but was worried about it coming loose in the hot sun. Also, I wanted it a little closer for my tired eyes. The ram-mounts can be purchased in different lengths & end mounts so it will fit regular handlebars without the plastic, suction cups for car dashes, or the ball joint like I used. The ball joint requires two mounting holes to be drilled. They have mounts for all Garmin products, including the new street pilots. I first tried a Street Pilot, but decided it was too big & heavy. With the III+ when I leave the bike I just remove it from the mount and put it in my pocket. You could also use it for hiking. Garmin has a e-map which has a better internal map, but it is not water proof. The III+ has an internal map of north America, all interstate, state HWY's & primary roads in major towns and cities. I found it most useful during my 4-Corner ride. Even if the road your on is not on the screen, you can zoom in & out and see your location relationship to known streets or lakes. I still took a wrong turn a few times, but I knew it immediately and got turn around. If you want to learn more about GPS, I would start at: http://joe.mehaffey.com/ Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/bike.html Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 06:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 06:20:55 EDT Subject: PC800: Brake Caliper Safety To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu OK...Don't ask how but I lost the two bolts that hold one of the front brake calipers. According to the dealership in Raleigh, NC they are 8 x 32 mm. [Of course having a finely stocked parts department, they had none in stock]. So I found "hardened" 8 x 35 bolts at an Ace Hardware, added a washer and reattached the calipers. Anyone out there think I'm compromising my safety? Rob Cary NC 96 PC "Red Baroness" w 8.5 K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 7 Oct 2000 04:41:26 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 06:41:26 CDT Godfrey, welcome to the PC list. The members of the PC list are always glad to have additions and most certainly from our PC riding brothers and sisters from across the pond. While the largest number of members are from the US we also have members from England, Belgium, Holland, Norway and Hong Kong. Do keep us posted on your PC experiences and riding adventures and please, don't hesitate to speak up with comments and questions. Desmond Cockburn, Ancestor of Admiral Sir George Cockburn, Royal Navy, commander of British troops who burned Washington, D.C. in the war of 1812. Sorry gang, couldn't resist ! >From: Godfrey Smith >Seems you guys dont like Brits?? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com To: Cc: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: RE: PC800: Brake Caliper Safety Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 07:50:09 -0400 Importance: High Personally unless they were exact, I would not ride until I got the replacements. But it does sound like you have it setup fine. I also would further investigate why they came off, if there may be a vibration problem. If memory serves, Honda does not reccomend any hondalock/loctite on those bolts, and in fact they are torqued to a somewhat low setting. I would get the replacements and ride safely again. Chris -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of ROBJHALL@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 6:21 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Brake Caliper Safety OK...Don't ask how but I lost the two bolts that hold one of the front brake calipers. According to the dealership in Raleigh, NC they are 8 x 32 mm. [Of course having a finely stocked parts department, they had none in stock]. So I found "hardened" 8 x 35 bolts at an Ace Hardware, added a washer and reattached the calipers. Anyone out there think I'm compromising my safety? Rob Cary NC 96 PC "Red Baroness" w 8.5 K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "ijmcnaughton" , "Pickett, Bruce D" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Right or wrong Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:43:46 -0400 Sorry Ian, But we ride on the RIGHT and y'all ride on the LEFT. I will say that the some British nuances have infiltrated our Yank way of thinking. I have a nephew named Ian, and a son named Tristan. I assure you that these weren't on my parents name list back in the 1940's. Cheerio! Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "ijmcnaughton" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" ; Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:27 PM Subject: PC800: Re:Right or wrong Hello Bruce We ride on the right side here in the UK,its the others that are wrong!!Its the fact that we get a zillion tons of rock salt on our roads every time we get a sniff of a frost that wrecks our exhaust systems,keeps us poor paying for the salt in our taxes,AND lets us ride all year round,to get to work,to earn money,to pay taxes,and exhausts etc.etc.(is this an Americanism,catch 22 ?) Regards Ian McNaughton 90PC with new Clearview,fancy dash,fancy stainless on boot(sorry trunk) BMW K75 (and a recent strong leaning towards,dare I say it,an ST) "Pickett, Bruce D" wrote: > Ian, > > So, what is it about the UK that destroys PC mufflers? Is it from riding on the wrong side of the road? (If its not on the right side, it must be the wrong side, right?) ;-) > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: ijmcnaughton [mailto:ijmcnaughton@netscapeonline.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:54 PM > To: Godfrey Smith; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Hello > > Hello Godfrey, > This is Ian McNaughton,I live in Derbyshire,just got your > mail.Disappointingly this is a mainly American orientated list,I asked the > question recently"How many PCers subscribe in the UK?"I received one answer! > But do not despair,there is a thriving UK PCOC.We recently held our annual rally > in S.Wales and there were I think 25 bikes.For more details try: > gbpc800@aol.com (Gary Beattie Sec.) > brian.millman@ntlworld.com(editor) > www.ipcrc.org(my bike is the one closest in the > last picture) As a footnote there is a breaker local to me with an 89 model > in.The exhaust is no good(I looked last year when mine went)but there may be a > lot of odd parts > if your stuck.Dont hesitate to call if you need any info as I have a service > manual. > Regards Ian > 90PC800 > K75 > > Godfrey Smith wrote: > > > Hi there all bikers everywhere, > > My name is godfrey, and I own a Red, late registered pc800. > > I have had it for 12 months now and love it dearly. > > > > I live in central London where pc's are very rare and a great head turner. > > I have only seen 4 (including my own) in 12 months. > > > > Unfortunately it needs some repairs etc and was hoping this group could help > > me maintain my bike by suppling information. > > > > The centre section of the exhaust is blowing really badly and needs > > replacing but the motorcycle repair shops here in London want a fortune for > > this repair. > > Not only do they want to charge me manufacturers prices for a replacement > > section £350UKP but another £150UKP for fitting as the bike has to be > > stripped down quite a lot. > > > > My first question is :- > > can another exhaust system be fitted to the bike or is it Honda Original > > equipment only? > > > > Second question > > The bike has been knocked over whilst parked up (both sides) and needs new > > fairing and mirrors > > what is the best / cheapest place to source these spares in the UK? > > > > I would like to get my horse back on the road and join in the fun of meets > > and shows etc and hope that the UK PC800 owners club is active > > > > Thanks in advance > > Godfrey > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > Godfrey Smith > > Chief Content Engineer > > Internet Digital Media Ltd > > (A Gameplay company) > > 8-14 Stanley Rd > > London > > SW19 8RF > > www.gameplay.com > > p: +44 (0)20 8395 1553 > > f: +44 (0)20 8395 1115 > > e: godfrey@idm.co.uk > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:45:08 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 To: dkelly@hiwaay.net, greatned@quik.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/6/00 9:23:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dkelly@hiwaay.net writes: << If they don't have Japanese Turn Signal Conversion Kits yet, were I to get a BMW I might go into that business. >> I doubt that you would get much business, David. I have a BMW as well as a PC, and to tell you the truth, I really like the turn signal arrangement on the Bimmer. It really seems so natural when you get used to it; turning left is left button and turning right is right button. You dont even have to move your hands from your normal riding position because the turn buttons are right where your thumbs are. I will admit that I too didnt like them at first, but after a couple of days I found them superior to anything else that I have ever used. Please dont get me wrong- I still dearly love my PC, but there ARE a few things that the Krauts do better than the Japs! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: RE: Is this just a US group? Godfrey Smith writes: > The reason I ask is I posted an introduction and asked a few questions > and no one replied at all. Afterwards someone else asked a question and > got 4 replies within minutes. > I thought maybe it [this list] was just US orientated. I hope the answer is that, unlike our two presidential candidates, nobody on the list felt they could answer your question intelligently, since it dealt with the repairs and parts situation in London, although there is (was?) a PC owner on the list from Kent. In the USA, the solution to your muffler problem would be find a PC in a junkyard and use its muffler. Given the paucity of PC's in the UK that's not a viable option. Good luck. Finding parts is one of the challenges of owning a rare bike. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:22:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Good article on the new GoldWing on Speedvision.com Jim Alexander writes: > Very good article written about the new GoldWing on Speedvision.COM > website. It is not just a technical article, it looks at the > development of the new GoldWing. Thanks for the pointer. This was a nice piece of writing, with excellent photos. Even if BMW hadn't encountered some pretty terrible reliability problems with their flagship tourer, I think the new Wing would have blown it away. Honda has been far too conservative for most of the past decade, and showed some real guts in putting a sportbike guy in charge of the new Gold Wing development team. I'll be very surprised if both the press and the buying public don't confirm that Honda scored very near a perfect 10 with this effort. Now all we need is a lightweight tourer for women and smaller men. Imagine the outcome if Masanori were leading a PC II design team.... ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:26:56 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "brian.millman" To: "Christoffer Carstanjen" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Hello Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:27:52 +0100 Hi Christoffer Nice to know my PC is famous! The bike originated from Texas but the paintwork was done here in the UK. It took me a while to find out as I heard a story that this type of artwork was always being done at motorcycle rallies in the USA. I have seen trucks being customised in truck-stops, so I felt this was a possibility. However it has been done in the UK (and signed by the artist) so maybe I have an appreciating piece of art? Glad you like it, it certainly gets some attention over here. Regards and safe riding Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC800 - The Palm Tree PC ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Christoffer Carstanjen To: brian.millman Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:07 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Hello > Brian, > > Currently your bike's rear end is my wallpaper on my > computer at work. That is a great paint job. Now I > wish I had a model older than a 98 - great use of the > candy apple red in the background. I hear you got it > from someone in Texas! > > Christoffer > > > This is where you will find some > > pics. of both our PCOC > > UK annual rallies in 1999 and 2000, along with a > > picture of my cherished > > 'Palm Tree PC'. > > > > ===== > Christoffer Carstanjen (like a car and an onion) - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:29:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Is this just a US group? Jim Alexander writes: > Aw, come on ... we love Brits ... you just spell English words > funny ... like colour ... you add those pesky extra vowels. As a librarian, I can't resist throwing this in. Melville Dewey (or as he preferred, Melvil Dui) is largely responsible for simplified spelling in this country. He is also responsible for the use of metric units in library cataloging -- a practice that has been followed for over 100 years, in a country that still clings to the most awkward system of weights and measures in the world. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:36:43 -0400 I know Harley's had the same turnsignal system, so who copied whom? Mike Whited ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: .....Life After The PC800 > In a message dated 10/6/00 9:23:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > dkelly@hiwaay.net writes: > > << If they don't have Japanese Turn Signal Conversion Kits yet, were I to > get a BMW I might go into that business. >> > > I doubt that you would get much business, David. I have a BMW as well as a > PC, and to tell you the truth, I really like the turn signal arrangement on > the Bimmer. It really seems so natural when you get used to it; turning left > is left button and turning right is right button. You dont even have to move > your hands from your normal riding position because the turn buttons are > right where your thumbs are. I will admit that I too didnt like them at > first, but after a couple of days I found them superior to anything else that > I have ever used. Please dont get me wrong- I still dearly love my PC, but > there ARE a few things that the Krauts do better than the Japs! > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:39:20 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "brian.millman" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: Re: PCOC UK newsletter Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:37:21 +0100 Hi Wolfgang, Unfortunately our newsletter is not sent by e-mail as very few of our members are suitably equipped. It is posted out as part of the annual subscription to the club. I will see if I can scan a few pages for you, and if it works I will e-mail them over to you. It would be nice to meet up with you next year so I am sure that we could arrange to meet up with some of the UK PCers when you are in the UK. Nice to hear from you. keep in touch. Regards and safe riding, Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC800 - The Palm Tree PC ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Wolfgang Kaufmann To: Brian Millman Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 11:31 AM Subject: PCOC UK newsletter > Hello Brian ! > > My name is Wolfgang Kaufmann, I live in Austria, subscribed to the list > and introduced me to the listers about 6 - 7 weeks before. > In your response to Godfrey I read that you are the editor of the > newsletter of the PCOC UK. > I would be glad if you would send this newsletter to me too ( I assume > it is sent out by e-mail), because I would like to hear about the PCs > and their drivers in the UK ! > ( and I would like to read something in that English I learned in school > 25 years ago, not always in that strange English our US-friends use ;-) > ) > By the way, in June/July 2001 some friends of mine from Motorcycle Club > MTC´81 and I are planning a journey to Ireland to take part of the > FIM-Rallye-Meeting in Killarney from 5 - 7 July. > On this journey we also want to take part of the "FIM-Meritum-Meeting", > which is held in Wales one week before the FIM-Rallye. > Perhaps it is possible to meet some UK-Coasters there ..... > > Thank you in advance, > > Wolfgang > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:51:30 +0000 To: W7KJD@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: A British Hello to PC800 Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:51:30 +0000 I know! I know! But I won't tell unless I get Lee's million bucks. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO iPCRC #1044 '89 PC800 > Noticed in Ian's message to Brian the following comment -- "As a footnote > there is a breaker local to me..." > > Lee -- For a Million Dollars and without using your life line >> What is > a Breaker? > > Gordon Creed > 96 PC800 > Washington, DC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server06.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2000 14:01:40 -0000 To: "Bruce Pickett" , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil leak Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:03:42 -0400 I don't know of any problems with doing this (other than remembering to get it into neutral BEFORE you take the clutch slave cylinder off), because I did it to diagnose my oil leak there. Didn't leak unless the motor was running, but when it was running I got a little tiny flow of oil. I'm going to fix it today. I'm hoping I don't have to take the cover off, but I'm prepared to take it off if I do. I WILL defeat the leak. I just hate having that HD marker under the bike. :o) Anyway, I've done it with no known ill affects. ]Monty Shaw[ 89 Sailor Moon[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:41:45 -0500 "Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices" (Oct 7, 12:47am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices+location! Welll, I haven't looked at the classifieds since March when I bought Whirby. (Self control mostly; after a year of searching for my "next" bike, I had to force myself to STOP THAT.) But, up until then it was a daily thing. And I was looking for something small and light and comfortable, not really a PC. So I was paying attention to the starter bikes. The PC was the SMALLEST thing I found that was comfortable enough for my aging carcass. I did look at a Honda Ascot, and a Honda single from the 80's. Both had been dredged up from the depths of someone's garage, leaked oil and made faint but unpleasant scraping noises from somewhere below the cams. That's what I saw for under $1,000. Now I did have that episode with the Suzuki SV650. I paid a lot more than $1,000 for it. It was one year old, had 600 miles on it, and was owned by a woman who bought it as a starter bike to ride with her husband. She had ridden it five or six times, and he put the rest of the miles on it. After I bought it, I figured out why it didn't work for her. Didn't work for me either. It was UNCOMFORTABLE. Squiddly riding position. Terrible seat. It looked like a standard, but it was really a crotch rocket minus the tupperware. 14,500 rpm red line, with true afterburner performance past 6k. Can't sit on it for more than 15 minutes without severe pain in butt, back and forearms. No center stand either! Light weight and low seat height aren't everything. Sold the damn thing after two weeks, and back to the search. So, I've spent a bit of time looking recently, and I think I have seen what's in the local market. I'm interested to know what part of the universe you live in, Jeff. I know that Austin prices are lots higher for housing than other places. Automobiles are a better buy in Houston, but not quite enough to make it worthwhile to go there to shop. Beer and Gasoline are about as cheap here as anywhere... Hey, Priorities, ya know? Even ten or fifteen year old Suzuki 850s have asking prices of $1,500 or so. But more to the point, small bikes just aren't showing up in the paper at all. Lots and lots of Suzi T1000's, Ninjas, and Hardleys out the wazoo, but starter bikes? Naaah. So, is this a regional thing? If so, what regions? Just curious. Revill Rider of Whirby On Oct 7, 12:47am, jeff wessel wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices > Revill, and all, > I happened to look at the classifieds today. There are hundreds of great > beginners bikes for $500-$1500 dollars. Also, there is a late model ('96 or > newer with 7500 miles for $4000 obo. I'd really like to move up[ from mine, > but....... > Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) >-- End of excerpt from jeff wessel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:55:41 -0500 "Re: PC800: Is this just a US group?" (Oct 7, 6:41am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? Don't you mean decendent? Or are you related to Zaphod Beeblebrox the Nothingth? (Who was the result of an accident involving a contraceptive and a time machine.... Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams) On Oct 7, 6:41am, Desmond Cockburn wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? > > Desmond Cockburn, > Ancestor of Admiral Sir George Cockburn, Royal Navy, commander of British > troops who burned Washington, D.C. in the war of 1812. Sorry gang, couldn't > resist ! > Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:12:37 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Revill Dunn" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices+location! Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:24:40 -0500 Revill and all, Not regional at all. I did a local search and found some things but also I did a nationwide search and there were many great low priced starters. Old rebels and nighthawk 250s also 360s and even a 450 scrambler. They were all over. BTW I live in northern Indiana and yes we have better prices on some things than you. I haven't seen anything in the local paper that was interesting, mostly Hardleys that are waaaaay overpriced, but the excite classifieds provided many choices. The PC I mentioned was in NJ. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" To: Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices+location! > Welll, I haven't looked at the classifieds since March when I bought Whirby. > (Self control mostly; after a year of searching for my "next" bike, I had to > force myself to STOP THAT.) But, up until then it was a daily thing. And I > was looking for something small and light and comfortable, not really a PC. So > I was paying attention to the starter bikes. The PC was the SMALLEST thing I > found that was comfortable enough for my aging carcass. I did look at a Honda > Ascot, and a Honda single from the 80's. Both had been dredged up from the > depths of someone's garage, leaked oil and made faint but unpleasant scraping > noises from somewhere below the cams. That's what I saw for under $1,000. > > Now I did have that episode with the Suzuki SV650. I paid a lot more than > $1,000 for it. It was one year old, had 600 miles on it, and was owned by a > woman who bought it as a starter bike to ride with her husband. She had ridden > it five or six times, and he put the rest of the miles on it. After I bought > it, I figured out why it didn't work for her. Didn't work for me either. It > was UNCOMFORTABLE. Squiddly riding position. Terrible seat. It looked like a > standard, but it was really a crotch rocket minus the tupperware. 14,500 rpm > red line, with true afterburner performance past 6k. Can't sit on it for more > than 15 minutes without severe pain in butt, back and forearms. No center stand > either! Light weight and low seat height aren't everything. Sold the damn > thing after two weeks, and back to the search. So, I've spent a bit of time > looking recently, and I think I have seen what's in the local market. > > I'm interested to know what part of the universe you live in, Jeff. I know > that Austin prices are lots higher for housing than other places. Automobiles > are a better buy in Houston, but not quite enough to make it worthwhile to go > there to shop. Beer and Gasoline are about as cheap here as anywhere... Hey, > Priorities, ya know? > > Even ten or fifteen year old Suzuki 850s have asking prices of $1,500 or so. > But more to the point, small bikes just aren't showing up in the paper at all. > Lots and lots of Suzi T1000's, Ninjas, and Hardleys out the wazoo, but starter > bikes? Naaah. > > So, is this a regional thing? If so, what regions? > > Just curious. > > Revill > Rider of Whirby > > On Oct 7, 12:47am, jeff wessel wrote: > > Subject: Re: PC800: New Rider + good bikes great prices > > Revill, and all, > > I happened to look at the classifieds today. There are hundreds of great > > beginners bikes for $500-$1500 dollars. Also, there is a late model ('96 or > > newer with 7500 miles for $4000 obo. I'd really like to move up[ from mine, > > but....... > > Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) > >-- End of excerpt from jeff wessel > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:30:42 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Is this just a US group? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/7/00 5:42:26 AM Mountain Daylight Time, Desmond Cockburn (tourrider AT hotmail.com) writes: > > Desmond Cockburn, > Ancestor of Admiral Sir George Cockburn, Royal Navy, commander of British > troops who burned Washington, D.C. in the war of 1812. Sorry gang, couldn't > resist ! You heard it here first: Proof positive that the PC is genuinely ahead of its time! Desmond is the _ancestor_ of Admiral Cockburn. In order for the Admiral to be Desmond's descendent, Desmond would have to be over 230 years old (unlikely), or have access to a time machine. Maybe he does! I'll bet that with some minor adjustments to the Autolean synchronization circuitry... Naah -- it'd never work. Time travel is a mere fantasy. Rusty J. '89 PC -- The Pale Unicorn (it was supposed to be a Horse, but...) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Talago, Stan" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: non pc. was Bar end weights. Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:47:06 -0700 Ah, Stan, but you are cheap. .05 cents is five hundredths of a penny. .05 dollars is a nickel. This used to be my pet peeve in writing but the misused apostrophe now is yards ahead. Speaking of the misused apostrophe, was I the only rid