********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:09:39 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Bad Joke I must have narrowcasted this one. Here it is again, proving that a bad joke never dies. One bad joke deserves another. Did you know Al Gore tried to be a rock musician? He wanted to be a drummer. Didn't work out. He tried his best to "make it real", but all he could manage was algorithms. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:42:03 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 08:39:36 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Greetings from a new lister that is running hot! From: Daryl Tschoepe To: PC800 If you go to Tools and setup a Mail List Manager, under Advanced options check Override Default behavior and reply to list address. Later, Daryl It's possible that on 8/31/00 7:12 PM, Clay Leihy at clayl@home.com hurled this into the void... > Specifically, in OE, if I hit the "Reply" > button, the "To" window comes up with the poster's address, rather than the > list, then I have to change it before hitting "Send". Really annoying. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:51:54 -0500 Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:51:54 -0500 Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:51:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint-Laurent To: Subject: Re:PC800: Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:06:28 -0500 >> Lee, >> >> Doesn't Francois have llama fat at a good price for list >> members? Seems to me he posted a photo as he was >> training for the Y2K ride that indicated he was into >> animal husbandry. ;-) >> >> -- >> Steve Ewens So... I sign off of the list for while and the list members start talki= ng about me behind my back.... and spreading lies as well!! First of all, as far as the charge of "animal husbandry" is concerned, = that sheep and I were just dating, I am *not* her husband.... :-) Next is the issue about llama fat.... yeah, I have some.... but I am n= ot selling it. Get your own... Do you guys realize how hard it is to actually get some lla= ma fat? When's the last time you saw a fat llama? Man.... I had to take my llama out on a = date every night for 3 months to fancy restaurants with rich foods just to get what litt= le llama fat I have now.. And you can imagine all the stares I got.....a lot of people didn't eve= n know I was no longer dating the sheep.... llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee ashamed= of yourselves.... fsl :-) = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:12:55 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "Francois Saint-Laurent" , Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:17:10 -0500 You guys have entirely too much time on your hands to spread BAAAAAAAAAAA---D rumors like these. LOL!!!!!!!! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 08:44:03 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard Great Ned wrote: > > Best substitute, Scuff, is llama fat, rendered over an open fire and rubbed > in well. You get used to the smell. Hey Scuffy! Don't bother with llamas, they don't have enough fat and you need more than one (besides, they like to spit on you). Let me send you some whale blubber imported directly from Barrow. You'll have to clean it yourself tho... -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:51:01 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:54:23 -0500 Somehow, this thread has started musical tremblings in my brain...sounds like music...could it be...YEA! THAT'S IT.... "B--AA--AA--D to the BONE!" Have a good and SAFE weekend everyone!! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: "Francois Saint-Laurent" , Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:23:31 -0400 Francois; >llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee ashamed = of yourselves....<< I see we are in fine form today! I am impressed! ... and amused!! = :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. (elton.hammond@ekho.com) President The EKHO Institute (http://www.ekho.com) Autodesk Premier Training Center FREE EKHO SCREEN TIPS at http://www.ekho.com/EKHO_STRIPS/SCREEN_TIPS.htm Tel. (613) 822-6935 Fax (613) 822-7132 ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Francois Saint-Laurent" To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: Re:PC800: Scotchguard > >> Lee, > >> > >> Doesn't Francois have llama fat at a good price for list > >> members? Seems to me he posted a photo as he was > >> training for the Y2K ride that indicated he was into > >> animal husbandry. ;-) > >> > >> -- > >> Steve Ewens >=20 >=20 >=20 > So... I sign off of the list for while and the list members start = talking > about me > behind my back.... and spreading lies as well!! >=20 > First of all, as far as the charge of "animal husbandry" is concerned, = that > sheep and > I were just dating, I am *not* her husband.... :-) >=20 > Next is the issue about llama fat.... yeah, I have some.... but I am = not > selling it. Get > your own... Do you guys realize how hard it is to actually get some = llama > fat? When's the > last time you saw a fat llama? Man.... I had to take my llama out on a = date > every night > for 3 months to fancy restaurants with rich foods just to get what = little > llama fat I have now.. > And you can imagine all the stares I got.....a lot of people didn't = even know > I was no longer > dating the sheep.... >=20 >=20 > llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee = ashamed of > yourselves.... >=20 >=20 > fsl :-) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >=20 a
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>= ;=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Whale Blubber Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:31:52 -0700 Juan, You don't have to ship whale blubber all the way from Alaska, Scuffy can get it from the Oregon Department of Transportation! They even deliver it by air! http://hackstadt.com/features/whale/ In addition to the text and pictures on this web site, there is a QuickTime movie that is well worth your while to view if your computer and internet link can handle it. How is this related to PCs? Weeellll, A PC is smaller than a Lincoln Continental, so the chance of this occurring is less. However, riders who want their seats closer to the ground may want to review the process. (BTW - I lived in the town of Florence, OR when the depicted event occurred) Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Juan A. Goula [mailto:jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:44 AM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard Great Ned wrote: > > Best substitute, Scuff, is llama fat, rendered over an open fire and rubbed > in well. You get used to the smell. Hey Scuffy! Don't bother with llamas, they don't have enough fat and you need more than one (besides, they like to spit on you). Let me send you some whale blubber imported directly from Barrow. You'll have to clean it yourself tho... -- Juan Antonio Goula -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Whale Blubber (now really non PC) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:23:18 -0700 Thanks, Bruce, for this trip down memory lane. I was working at a radio station in Salem at the time, and we made quite a to do about this on the air. Now I see clearly I could be responsible for taking a true story and converting it to an urban legend. I would have insisted, until seeing this, that it was north, like Cannon Beach, and that the flattened car was a Chevrolet Bel Air. So much for my retention of facts. Equally distrustworthy is my recollection that the well meaning Highway Dept. employee actually put the dynamite between the whale and the surf. He flunked Vectors 101 some years prior. To reward him he was given a job painting yellow lines on highways. Whoa, we're back to roads now, so PC's might get worked in here pretty soon. And no thanks to the starter of this whole whale blubber thing. Roger and Cindy Ries are coming here next week and I think up to now they had thought Oregon was a safe place to ride a a a a a PACIFIC COAST MOTORCYCLE. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" > Juan, > > You don't have to ship whale blubber all the way from Alaska, Scuffy can get it from the Oregon Department of Transportation! They even deliver it by air! > > http://hackstadt.com/features/whale/ > > In addition to the text and pictures on this web site, there is a QuickTime movie that is well worth your while to view if your computer and internet link can handle it. > > How is this related to PCs? Weeellll, A PC is smaller than a Lincoln Continental, so the chance of this occurring is less. However, riders who want their seats closer to the ground may want to review the process. > > (BTW - I lived in the town of Florence, OR when the depicted event occurred) > > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juan A. Goula [mailto:jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:44 AM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard > > > Great Ned wrote: > > > > Best substitute, Scuff, is llama fat, rendered over an open fire and rubbed > > in well. You get used to the smell. > > Hey Scuffy! Don't bother with llamas, they don't have enough fat and you need > more than one (besides, they like to spit on you). Let me send you some whale > blubber imported directly from Barrow. You'll have to clean it yourself tho... > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:36:55 +0000 To: Francois Saint-Laurent Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re:PC800: Scotchguard Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:36:55 +0000 Francois, Uh, er, hello. Uh, thought you were unsubscribed or something...great to hear from you! Boy, do I ever feel sheepish! Please don't think we were trying to SPREAD LIES about you! Heavens, no! Nobody here believed the thing about the sheep was anything but shear nonsense. Mutton we could say would diminish your reputation! We were just pulling your leg of lamb! (Doesn't it sound as if I've been hanging out with Ralph Couey?) -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > >> Lee, > >> > >> Doesn't Francois have llama fat at a good price for list > >> members? Seems to me he posted a photo as he was > >> training for the Y2K ride that indicated he was into > >> animal husbandry. ;-) > >> > >> -- > >> Steve Ewens > > > > So... I sign off of the list for while and the list members start talking > about me > behind my back.... and spreading lies as well!! > > First of all, as far as the charge of "animal husbandry" is concerned, that > sheep and > I were just dating, I am *not* her husband.... :-) > > Next is the issue about llama fat.... yeah, I have some.... but I am not > selling it. Get > your own... Do you guys realize how hard it is to actually get some llama > fat? When's the > last time you saw a fat llama? Man.... I had to take my llama out on a date > every night > for 3 months to fancy restaurants with rich foods just to get what little > llama fat I have now.. > And you can imagine all the stares I got.....a lot of people didn't even know > I was no longer > dating the sheep.... > > > llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee ashamed of > yourselves.... > > > fsl :-) > > > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G0873X03.MBY for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:47:57 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Llama fat & Francois... was Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:45:02 -0500 >(Doesn't it sound as if I've been hanging out with Ralph >Couey?) I think WAY TOO MANY people here have been hanging around Mr. Couey... :-) Is it time for the St. Genivieve ride yet? Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Francois Saint-Laurent Cc: PC800 List Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re:PC800: Scotchguard > Francois, > > Uh, er, hello. Uh, thought you were unsubscribed or > something...great to hear from you! Boy, do I ever feel > sheepish! > > Please don't think we were trying to SPREAD LIES about > you! Heavens, no! Nobody here believed the thing about > the sheep was anything but shear nonsense. Mutton we > could say would diminish your reputation! We were just > pulling your leg of lamb! > > (Doesn't it sound as if I've been hanging out with Ralph > Couey?) > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > '89 PC800 > > > > > > >> Lee, > > >> > > >> Doesn't Francois have llama fat at a good price for list > > >> members? Seems to me he posted a photo as he was > > >> training for the Y2K ride that indicated he was into > > >> animal husbandry. ;-) > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Steve Ewens > > > > > > > > So... I sign off of the list for while and the list members start talking > > about me > > behind my back.... and spreading lies as well!! > > > > First of all, as far as the charge of "animal husbandry" is concerned, that > > sheep and > > I were just dating, I am *not* her husband.... :-) > > > > Next is the issue about llama fat.... yeah, I have some.... but I am not > > selling it. Get > > your own... Do you guys realize how hard it is to actually get some llama > > fat? When's the > > last time you saw a fat llama? Man.... I had to take my llama out on a date > > every night > > for 3 months to fancy restaurants with rich foods just to get what little > > llama fat I have now.. > > And you can imagine all the stares I got.....a lot of people didn't even know > > I was no longer > > dating the sheep.... > > > > > > llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee ashamed of > > yourselves.... > > > > > > fsl :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:15:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Fenwick" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Llama fat & Francois... was Scotchguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:14:45 -0500 Lissen, guys, I just took a look at myself in the mirror and I have enough hangin' out on my own. I carry a lot of weight around here so don't make me play the heavy. Besides, the way the talk is going, from llama fat to whale blubber to.... maybe it's safer for me to stay indoors. At least after I pilot my way down to take the hump back on porpoise. --Ralph Boy it's REALLY REALLY hot out there! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: PC800: Llama fat & Francois... was Scotchguard > >(Doesn't it sound as if I've been hanging out with Ralph > >Couey?) > > I think WAY TOO MANY people here have been hanging around Mr. Couey... :-) > > Is it time for the St. Genivieve ride yet? > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > AMA - 361534 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Francois Saint-Laurent > Cc: PC800 List > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:36 PM > Subject: Re:PC800: Scotchguard > > > > Francois, > > > > Uh, er, hello. Uh, thought you were unsubscribed or > > something...great to hear from you! Boy, do I ever feel > > sheepish! > > > > Please don't think we were trying to SPREAD LIES about > > you! Heavens, no! Nobody here believed the thing about > > the sheep was anything but shear nonsense. Mutton we > > could say would diminish your reputation! We were just > > pulling your leg of lamb! > > > > (Doesn't it sound as if I've been hanging out with Ralph > > Couey?) > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > > > >> Lee, > > > >> > > > >> Doesn't Francois have llama fat at a good price for list > > > >> members? Seems to me he posted a photo as he was > > > >> training for the Y2K ride that indicated he was into > > > >> animal husbandry. ;-) > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Steve Ewens > > > > > > > > > > > > So... I sign off of the list for while and the list members start > talking > > > about me > > > behind my back.... and spreading lies as well!! > > > > > > First of all, as far as the charge of "animal husbandry" is concerned, > that > > > sheep and > > > I were just dating, I am *not* her husband.... :-) > > > > > > Next is the issue about llama fat.... yeah, I have some.... but I am > not > > > selling it. Get > > > your own... Do you guys realize how hard it is to actually get some > llama > > > fat? When's the > > > last time you saw a fat llama? Man.... I had to take my llama out on a > date > > > every night > > > for 3 months to fancy restaurants with rich foods just to get what > little > > > llama fat I have now.. > > > And you can imagine all the stares I got.....a lot of people didn't even > know > > > I was no longer > > > dating the sheep.... > > > > > > > > > llama going to tell you this only once..... Ewe guys should bee ashamed > of > > > yourselves.... > > > > > > > > > fsl :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:59:35 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Joel Patton Subject: PC800: 89 PC repair report All, A few weeks ago, my PC was backed into by a minivan, and knocked off its center stand onto its left side. I just got the repair order from the insurance company and it will be over $1800!!! Thankfully that guy had USAA insurance..... BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PARK! JPatton 89 PC800 w/ backpacker trailer 88 Fiero GT 5-speed 87 Fiero GT LT1 Chop Top -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:39:01 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: PC800: Pauline Ralston Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:37:05 -0500 For you folks that remember Pauline Ralston, a former PC owner that was on our list in the recent past, I am sorry to report that she was run off the road while being passed in Utah, Thursday, while on a ride and suffered fatal injuries. Other riders were witnesses from what I understand and hopefully the driver responsible will be caught. He never stopped. Please ride careful, you never know when your time will come. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Fw: Scothguard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:07:44 -0400 I went to 3M and asked them about scotchguard and this was their reply. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Scothguard > > > Scotchgard Heavy Duty Water Repellent for Outdoor Fabric is not affected by our > phase out. > > Thank you, > > 3M Home Care > > -----------Original Message Follows------------ > > > address = > confirm = /about3M/contact/thankyou.html > country = United States > email = Mwhited@columbus.rr.com > form_id = aboutww_ccmail > mail_subject = Scothguard > message = I read on the internet that 3m is discontinuing SCOTCHGUARD. I use > this product to waterproof my motorcycle riding suit and am wondering if this > is true and if so is there a replacement available? > name = Mike Whited > recipient = innovation@mmm.com > x = 31 > y = 6 > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:15:44 -0500 From: William Drake To: Steve Wilson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pauline Ralston Steve, Sorry to here this, please pass on our thoughts & prayers to her family. Lets all be extra careful this weekend as no matter what gear we wear of fancy flashing gizmo we install, you can't always be 100% safe out on on the road. Today and this weekend alot of cagers are in holiday mode and aren't paying attention to the road(not that they do that regularly) or what's around them I witnessed this first hand on the Expressway while riding this morning enjoying a day off. Be careful out there. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC#542, AMA, HRCA Steve Wilson wrote: > > For you folks that remember Pauline Ralston, a former PC owner that was > on our list in the recent past, I am sorry to report that she was run > off the road while being passed in Utah, Thursday, while on a ride and > suffered fatal injuries. Other riders were witnesses from what I > understand and hopefully the driver responsible will be caught. He never > stopped. Please ride careful, you never know when your time will come. > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: layla31@juno.com by m25.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FGW4XQGM; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 21:36:37 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:37:41 -0700 Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Hello. My name is Eddie. I'm from Queens, New York. Just saw my first Pacific Coast motorcycle and love it. Can someone tell me how I can get one and send me any if not all information about it. I'm truly in love with it. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FGW6HWUV; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:04:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: layla31@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:05:02 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net From: Tony L Miller Eddie: Hello! Welcome to the list! I hope you are subscribed. Let us know if you are not, and we can help. We all love Pacific Coast Motorcycles too! The way you get one is to give someone money that has a Pacific Coast. You will have to spend between $2,500 and $6,000, I think, depending on the year and condition of motorcycle that you want. Bikes regularly come up for sale on this list. I'm sure that some of the list members can point you to some sites and magazines that you can search through. Or, you can search the list archives. Hope this helps! Tony On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:37:41 -0700 layla31@juno.com writes: > Hello. My name is Eddie. I'm from Queens, New York. Just saw my > first > Pacific Coast motorcycle and love it. Can someone tell me how I can > get > one and send me any if not all information about it. I'm truly in > love > with it. Thanks. > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: J Serlo Subject: PC800: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) To: PC 800 List --0-1540383426-967862821=:27076 Hey fellow listers I'm gonna rant here, My first bike magazine ( in 15) was a year ago when Motorcyclist did " what you can but for under 10K". John McQuide had a great article, he wrote about his love affair with his BMW and the BMW club he belonged to. The quote that hooked me was "You just don't buy a Bimmer you get involved". That really caught my attention. I looked hard for a Bimmer but really thought the heads out the sides was ugly and the ones that hide the engine too expensive. The PC was pretty and after reading the list for awhile found one. The bad part John McQuide was killed at the Honda Hoot. Pauline Ralston was killed, in my area of NE PA two bikers were killed last weekend. I guess it comes in spurts. Bad spurts. This month Motorcyclist did a tribute to John McQuide. One column talked about the lack of respect for bikers and we don't have an organization to represent us. How sad. I remember the days when drunk drivers would be told "Sleep it Off", by the cop that pulled him over. Or maybe a ticket. That has really changed in the last 15 years. Is there hope for motorcyclist? More people then ever seem to be riding and most are look to be taxpayers (this I guess from how many HD I see). Are biker deaths similar to deaths caused by drunk drivers? Can awareness help and how should it be done? What do the more expienced riders feel? I'm interested in your thoughts. Joe --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1540383426-967862821=:27076

Hey fellow listers I'm gonna rant here,


My first bike magazine ( in 15) was a year ago when Motorcyclist did " what you can but for under 10K".  John McQuide had a great article, he wrote about his love affair with his BMW and the BMW club he belonged to.  The quote that hooked me was "You just don't buy a Bimmer you get involved".  That really caught my attention.  I looked hard for a Bimmer but really thought the heads out the sides was ugly and the ones that hide the engine too expensive.


The PC was pretty and after reading the list for awhile found one.  The bad part John McQuide was killed at the Honda Hoot. Pauline Ralston was killed, in my area of NE PA two bikers were killed last weekend. 


 I guess it comes in spurts.  Bad spurts.


This month Motorcyclist did a tribute to John McQuide.  One column talked about the lack of respect for bikers and we don't have an organization to represent us.  How sad.  I remember the days when drunk drivers would be told "Sleep it Off", by the cop that pulled him over.  Or maybe a ticket.  That has really changed in the last 15 years.  Is there hope for motorcyclist?  More people then ever seem to be riding and most are look to be taxpayers (this I guess from how many HD I see).  Are biker deaths similar to deaths caused by drunk drivers?  Can awareness help and how should it be done?


What do the more expienced riders feel? I'm interested in your thoughts.

Joe

 

 

 

 


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Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1540383426-967862821=:27076-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:16:27 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 03:16:27 +0000 Wool, veal have to wind this thread up now. I herd that others want to use the bandwidth. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > > > Oh, wait! I GET IT! That was all just a setup for the > > alpaca pun thing, wasn't it? Never mind! > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > The alpaca pun just remained in the bottom of the scene, like solids after > rendering. I shoulda strained it. Already did my shoulder. > > Ah to sleep perchance to snore. > > Lee > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 23:29:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) To: jcats_us@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I'll add my two cents here as a motorcycle rider for 34 years. I very much resent the attitude of non riders and riders alike who start out a conversation, sometimes the first words out of their mouths, with me by the telling of an old motorcycle accident story. For some sadistic reason they feel they have to give me this information. I always ask them, "If I drove up in a car would you be telling me a car accident story?" I also rebut with the "accident du jour" in the news by asking them if they think I should have taken that "safe" alternative form of transportation rather then my "dangerous" motorcycle (a $9,000 dollar ticket on the Concorde springs to mind as a chance of a lifetime...literally). Sometimes I don't even want to spend the time interacting with the person and I just tell them I don't want to hear about their lame accident story. I have a different, and opposite, attitude toward fellow Pacific Coast Listers sharing their harrowing experiences on the list. They have always done it as a way for us all to learn and I have adjusted my driving style based on some of their reports. I agree we don't have an organization to represent us motorcyclists in the safety awareness area. The AMA, which I belong to, is more of a political lobby/racing organization from what I have seen over the years. I would really like to see some of my dues go toward TV public service announcements and radio spots just reminding other motorists to LOOK for us and SEE us on the road. I always hated the line "Watch out for motorcycles!" because it makes it sound like we shouldn't be on the road. Kind of like kids playing by the roadside when they should be on the sidewalk or in their yard. I also like the idea of motorcycle rides for awareness. We don't always have to shell out money to ride for a charity. Why not just a big ride to let people know we share the road with them. Maybe the "charity" could be funding for motorycle awareness TV spots! Well I guess I've used up my two cents and then some. I don't usually respond to these types of posts, but the unusual summer heat today must have gotten to me. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" jcats_us@yahoo.com writes: > >Hey fellow listers I'm gonna rant here, > > >My first bike magazine ( in 15) was a year ago when Motorcyclist did " what >you can but for under 10K". John McQuide had a great article, he wrote about >his love affair with his BMW and the BMW club he belonged to. The quote that >hooked me was "You just don't buy a Bimmer you get involved". That really >caught my attention. I looked hard for a Bimmer but really thought the heads >out the sides was ugly and the ones that hide the engine too expensive. > > >The PC was pretty and after reading the list for awhile found one. The bad >part John McQuide was killed at the Honda Hoot. Pauline Ralston was killed, in >my area of NE PA two bikers were killed last weekend. > > > I guess it comes in spurts. Bad spurts. > > >This month Motorcyclist did a tribute to John McQuide. One column talked >about the lack of respect for bikers and we don't have an organization to >represent us. How sad. I remember the days when drunk drivers would be told >"Sleep it Off", by the cop that pulled him over. Or maybe a ticket. That has >really changed in the last 15 years. Is there hope for motorcyclist? More >people then ever seem to be riding and most are look to be taxpayers (this I >guess from how many HD I see). Are biker deaths similar to deaths caused by >drunk drivers? Can awareness help and how should it be done? > > >What do the more expienced riders feel? I'm interested in your thoughts. > >Joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu.@fixme by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 03:37:23 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:41:29 -0500 From: Rick Corwine To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Off on The Great Ride To all, I'm off in the morning for my pilgrimage to the road our steeds are named for. To say I can't wait to ride this great ribbon of asphalt with the likes of all of you is truly an understatement in the first degree. I hope to establish an internet connection at a few points along the way and to file the occasional report. Please put in a good word to the higher power of your choice for all of us as we travel to the Great Road so that all will return safe and sound. Cars transport the body. Motorcycles transport the soul. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN 1995 "Raven" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: I'mmmmm Baaaack....... Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:54:05 -0700 Hi, all, and hello again... ...I was unsubscribed for a few days while my family and I spent this = year's vacation driving the scenic byways of Oregon and the California = Redwoods, (4,500+ miles in less than 10 days) and let me tell you - I = made the biggest mistake of my life! My mistake?...I drove the family in a car. No; there was nothing wrong with the car (a Mitsubishi Gallant - nice = handling and road control)...my mistake was that, instead of driving my = family in a car, I should have taken my wife on the PC; do all of the = scenic rides, come back and do it all over again with each of my two = boys. Oregon, and the Redwood forests, are just filled with pleasant, = fun rides and I kept picturing myself doing them on the PC instead of = behind the wheel of a car. Thoroughly enjoyable. (I live in the Los = Angeles area, so I don't see that much healthy green except on old = dollar bills.) I did try to hook up with a couple of fellow Oregon coasters while I was = there, but we spent so much time on the road, we couldn't squeeze them = in! If you haven't ridden through Oregon in your lengthy travails, I = recommend it. I'll even give you the maps and routes we used to = navigate by. And, by the way, our hotel room was just down the way from llama = ranches. "Darth" Beau Ventura Co., CA 1994 Black PC 800 "Emperor Palpatine" routes=20 we used to navigate by.
 
And, by the way, our hotel room was = just down the=20 way from llama ranches.
 
"Darth"  Beau
Ventura Co., = CA
1994 Black=20 PC 800
"Emperor Palpatine"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "J Serlo" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:07:29 -0700 My response... ...the drunk driving awareness was created by the classic WIIFM = approach. (WIIFM =3D What's In It For Me?) By pointing out that the = drunk driver's next victim could easily by your child or relative, they = hit where it hurts. Once that connection was made, you felt like you = had a vested right in reducing the drunk driving accidents, 'cause you = were banking that it might also reduce the possibility that your loved = ones would "be next". This is how MADD works..."Mothers" Against Drunk = Driving has much clearer connotations and meaning than "People" Again = Drunk Driving. If we were to attempt to increase awareness in car vs motorcycle = incidents, etc., we would need to point out that the "next" biker victim = could easily be your husband, father or brother - it would make a = connection with the listening cager that makes a deeper message than = just trying to warn you about some faceless/nameless stereotype on a = Harley. (Besides, there's the long-held biker image to fight through.) This can be done, but it wouldn't be effective until you bring it home = first... ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Beau Williams" , "pc" Subject: Re: PC800: I'mmmmm Baaaack....... Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:22:14 -0700 And, by the way, our hotel room was just down the way from llama = ranches. "Darth" Beau And see, it changed his outlook, his mien, his physiognomy, his whole = philosophy of life. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:12:14 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Scotchguard To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: AmbrGrl007@aol.com In a message dated 9/1/00 9:17:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sge2000@att.net ( Steve Ewens) writes: > Wool, veal have to wind this thread up now. I herd that > others want to use the bandwidth. Finally! I lamb getting tired of reading mutton else besides these sheep shots everyone's taking -- shear tripe, if you ask me. If this keeps up I will take to driving my car digan, or get a Harley. But then again, no -- a Haggis not for me! Non-pun content: I'm leaving in the morning for Manhattan Beach, California. (About 800 superslab miles, mostly on I-15.) I expect to return Monday. The bike is in good shape, and the weather looks favorable. . . Rusty J. Ogden, Utah, USA '89 PC, The Pale Sheep -- er, Pale Horse (18.5 K miles) With apologies to Mary, her lamb, and Ma Goose: Rusty had a Pacific Coast its Tupperware was white as wool and everywhere that Rusty went, they thought his bike was cool... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:47:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clowns...! Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 23:47:38 PDT Okey dokey, let's look at the response that I got to what I thought was a serious question about Scotchguard! * One berating me for not stopping and saying "hi" while going through Omaha (Sorry, Pamela!) * Bob Walton directing me to outdoor stores. * Jim Alexander reminding me that the listkeeper on the ST list works for 3M (and I will be contacting him for details on the demise of Scotchguard--Thanks, Jim) * Roger Ries mentioning that he had just been able to buy some Scotchguard--so there must still be some on store shelves. * And Rick Corwine steering me to Camp Dry--made specifically for such waterproofing solutions. Which is exactly what I did--buy Camp Dry. Why do I point this out? Because I can't resist responding to the outgrowth of nonsense (I stopped counting at 10 posts) that followed my question--which resulted in a conversation about sheep fat, exploding whales, and somehow also dragged in FSL and his love of things bovine! What a bunch of clowns--80% of the thread didn't have a thing to do with Scotchguard! Methinks its a good thing that the Y2K Ride is just around the corner--you guys need a good long ride to clear your brains of--whatever it is that's up there. Of course we run the risk of not having anything left after the nonsense has been purged... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (12K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "Being President is like running a cemetery. You've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening." - President Clinton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:25:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) Motorcycling is inherently dangerous; if it wasn't, we wouldn't wear boots, gloves, helments, and armored clothing. I started riding in 1961, and I'm not ready to hang it up yet. My most serious injuries, a broken toe and a broken wrist, have both occurred at home, and had nothing to do with motorcycling. Last year, when the mother-in-law of a friend had been diagnosed with cervical cancer, I finally got around to reading Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's book, "On Death and Dying." I highly recommend it to all, and especially to motorcycle riders, for whom death may be a little closer than for the rest of the population. Some wag has observed that life is a fatal disease. Reading Kubler-Ross will help you prepare for the inevitable. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: All the printed information on the Pacific Coast... Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:49:03 -0400 Importance: Normal ...can be found here: http://www.mcreports.com/Pages/Indivbikes/Honda/PC800.html I ordered the report and it covers all the printed material in magazines about the PC800. I got it. Nice to have for nostalgia. Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: All the printed information on the Pacific Coast... Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:00:43 -0700 Thanks for the link! I will be ordering one also. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rutherford L. Le Blang To: PC800 Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: PC800: All the printed information on the Pacific Coast... >...can be found here: > >http://www.mcreports.com/Pages/Indivbikes/Honda/PC800.html > >I ordered the report and it covers all the printed material in magazines >about the PC800. > >I got it. Nice to have for nostalgia. > >Russ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G09V0R00.T5D for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:22:03 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: St. Genevieve ride. Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:19:01 -0500 Boy, I'm glad we didn't decide on THIS weekend.... HOT, HOT, HOT!!! (and HUMID too) Mark - Order up some weather for the ride weekend just about like the weather we had for Starved Rock... Also, do you have any updates for us? List is awful quiet, everyone must be out riding or on vacation. Too hot here to do either. Rich Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:28:32 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Off on The Great Ride To: rickcorwn@uswest.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Rick, and all going to the PC Highway....Good luck, God Bless. Wish I could be going with you... Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LBurr1939@aol.com for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:26:12 EDT Subject: PC800: PC transport query To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have arranged to buy an '89 PC but must go 600+ miles to pick it up. I have a small pickup with an 86" bed available to use but don't know if that is adequate to safely transport the bike. I will appreciate suggestions and comments from those who have had similar transporting experience. Larryb -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:42:21 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Off on The Great Ride To: rfenwick@core.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Yep....San Antonio. I will be making a ride to Los Angeles at the end of the month. Could not get time off in time for the PC Hwy ride. Will go to Carlsbad Caverns, Roswell (do you think the mother ship will still be there?), Alamogordo, Tombstone AZ, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and on down to LA. My brother lives there. Hope to get down to the beach and let Scoot see the place she was named for. Have fun. Wish I could be going with you folks. I will be there in spirit. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G0A1RQ01.57D; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:47:50 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: PC transport query Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:44:46 -0500 Larry: I have a page on my website dedicated to hauling a PC... Go see: http://pc_800.tripod.com/trailering.html I have included how I do it, and quite a few others have followed what I have documented here with total success. Personally, if your pickup is set up to pull a trailer, I'd rent or borrow a trailer to transport it on. Much easier (and LOWER to the ground) than putting it in the back of a pickup. I can load and unload my PC by myself with the trailer I have pictured. Rent a UHaul trailer like this one I also have pictures of on that page, or rent one that is low to the ground and has a ramp at your local contractor rental yard. It is SO MUCH easier than loading into a pickup... Let me know if you have any questions. I check my email at least 4x daily. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: PC800: PC transport query > I have arranged to buy an '89 PC but must go 600+ miles to pick it up. I > have a small pickup with an 86" bed available to use but don't know if that > is adequate to safely transport the bike. I will appreciate suggestions and > comments from those who have had similar transporting experience. > > Larryb > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.76) with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 14:18:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Webmaster iPCRC.org" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Wales Weekend Pics now at iPCRC ! Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:17:50 +0200 Check out some great pictures from the massive PC800 invasion in Wales on the iPCRC site: www.ipcrc.org Emile www.ipcrc.org internet Pacific Coast Riders Club -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "joannie" To: "PC800" , "Honda Sport Touring Association" Subject: PC800: Bike to bike communication Help?? Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:36:24 -0500 Hi everybody - I am looking for information on the FRS radios to use for bike to bike communication. I know of two basic types like the regular Motorola FRS, and the Motorola Talk About Distance (GMRS). J&M no longer makes the audio pack installation kit for the GMRS radio. Even with the audio pack, which attaches to regular handlebars, there would still be a problem putting it on the PC, Ducatti and Blackbird. The information on our bikes and our problem is below. My husband and I both ride unfaired bikes. We have tried CB radios with J&M headsets installed by Niehaus Cycles. They are ineffective above 55 - 60 MPH. We have also tried Chatterboxes with the same problem. What is the range of the FRS radios at expressway speeds of 70 - 75 MPH? What about the FRS vs the GMRS Motorola Talk About Distance? How clear are they? Is there a different radio or system you would recommend? My husband's two bikes are a Ducatti 900 CR and a 93 Honda Nighthawk. My two are a 98 PC 800 and a 97 Honda CBR 1100XX (Blackbird). We need to be able to switch the radios back and forth among the four bikes. Neither of us rides with passengers, so we do not need intercoms, just bike to bike communications. Thank you very much for your help. Joannie Karcher St. Louis 636-942-4145 CBR 1100XX 98 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 17:00:32 -0500 From: William Drake To: joannie CC: PC800 , Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: Re: PC800: Bike to bike communication Help?? Hi Joannie, I use Motorola FRS 250 talkabouts, they have VOX and I got the headsets at Circuit City for $16.00 a piece and modified them to fit using a dremel Tool. Takes about 20 minutes each to modify and sound great. Have used them several times including on the Starved Rock Run a few weeks ago. Also use them as an intercom when my wife rides with me on the PC. Have to shut the VOX off when At highway speeds & in heavy traffic as the loud highway noise can trigger it. They are nice and clear and the range I 've experienced at most has been about a mile and half depending on the terrain(country roads) to less in the city. Hope this helps some, I will bring them on the Missouri ride on the 23-24 if will be there, you can check them out. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC#542, HRCA, AMA joannie wrote: > > Hi everybody - > > I am looking for information on the FRS radios to use for bike to bike > communication. I know of two basic types like the regular Motorola FRS, and > the Motorola Talk About Distance (GMRS). J&M no longer makes the audio > pack installation kit for the GMRS radio. Even with the audio pack, which > attaches to regular handlebars, there would still be a problem putting it on > the PC, Ducatti and Blackbird. The information on our bikes and our problem > is below. > > My husband and I both ride unfaired bikes. We have tried CB radios with > J&M headsets installed by Niehaus Cycles. They are ineffective above 55 - 60 > MPH. We have also tried Chatterboxes with the same problem. > > What is the range of the FRS radios at expressway speeds of 70 - 75 MPH? > What about the FRS vs the GMRS Motorola Talk About Distance? How clear are > they? Is there a different radio or system you would recommend? > > My husband's two bikes are a Ducatti 900 CR and a 93 Honda Nighthawk. My > two are a 98 PC 800 and a 97 Honda CBR 1100XX (Blackbird). We need to be > able to switch the radios back and forth among the four bikes. Neither of > us rides with passengers, so we do not need intercoms, just bike to bike > communications. > > Thank you very much for your help. > > Joannie Karcher > St. Louis > 636-942-4145 > > CBR 1100XX > 98 PC 800 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:10:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Women rider's Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:10:35 -0500 You GO, Girl! My 5"1' wife shares your sentiments. Which is why she loves her Helix. Okay, she loves me, too. --Ralph ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: PC800: Women rider's > I can't stay quite any longer. You GUYS on the list need to hear from > another WOMAN rider. There are more of us on this list than you can > imagine. I will pay $$$ to get even 1 centimeter closer to the ground. > I am flat footed on my bike, the left one only, while the right one is > flopping in the breeze. I learned to stop with just one foot on the > ground, not to be cool, but out of necessity. I have shaved enough foam > off my seat to qualify for riding on the frame. My saddle from Corbin is > going to take 12 weeks, because they are specially making it for my > petite and delicate frame. My PC has to last me a lifetime (thank Godess > it will) because my only other choice in motorcycles is a cruiser. I've > had one, and the PC handles so much better. You feel cramped on a PC due > to your excessive height--get a Gold Wing. Now, flame me. > > Betty, I hope the soap box is big enough for two. > > Pamela Stomberg > Omaha, NE > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Mirrors and bolts Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:17:46 -0700 If anyone needs a right-hand mirror for their PC, let me know. I'll let = you have it for the price of shipping. (When I bought my 94 PC this past February, it came with two right-hand = mirrors (one in the right housing and one turned upside-down in the left = housing.) The one in the left housing was functional, but left me with = a heck of a blind-spot on that side, because I couldn't turn it out all = the way.) Well; thanks to Phillips Wong, I now have a left-hand mirror where it = belongs, in the left housing. Of course, I now have a spare right-hand = mirror which I don't need, thus the offer. The mirror is in perfect = condition, no scratches in either the mirror or its base, with all 3 = screws. Let me know if you'd like it. First consideration will be given to = whomever offers to include a spare allen/hexagon bolt for the handlebar = weights, with their check. (I also secured a replacement handlebar = weight, but still need the bolt to lock it in.) "Darth" Beau Ventura Co., CA 1994 Black PC 800 "Emperor Palpatine" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "cmh-moto" , "PC800" , "HSTA" Subject: PC800: Ohio ride. Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:34:23 -0400 Were getting a group (all creeds,color & make) of riders for a ride from Columbus to Boonesboro Kentucky (SE of Lexington)for a late lunch. We are meeting @ McDonalds at the intersection of SR161 & Sinclare RD about 2 miles west of I-71 and SR 161. between 8:30 & 9:00am. Leave @ 9:00 and take secondary roads to Boonesboro. We will eat @ Halls, A place we found when we use to go to the Rider Rallys in Richmond. I expect good weather,roads,people & food. and hope you-all er y'all can make it! Please contact me if you would like any additional information. Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:11:44 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: (PC800 Rider) CC: Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) >I very much resent the attitude of non riders and riders alike who start out a >conversation, sometimes the first words out of their mouths, with me by the >telling of an old motorcycle accident story... I also rebut with the >"accident du jour" in the news by asking them if they think I should have taken >that "safe" alternative form of transportation rather then my "dangerous" >motorcycle Nice response! I've used the "horrible accident that disfigured a friend" when he was hit from behind at a stop light. If he was on a bike he could have filtered forward out of harm's way - since he was in a car he had to just sit there and get hit. It's not 100% true, but it's effective. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "cmh-moto" , "HSTA" , "PC800" Subject: PC800: It finally happened. Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:17:04 -0400 30+ years of riding and 250,000 miles, I had my first accident! (oh I dropped my CB450 in the backyard once, but you know what I mean." Yesterday about 5:30 Pm, I was heading south on N.High Street in the right lane. when I saw my lane had construction in it and I needed to merge left. I came to a stop at a red light. The light changed and traffic started to move, I looked over my left shoulder and saw that the Astro Van in the left lane was back two car lenghts so I signaled and merged left. I accelerated a little and shifted into second. I saw a car in the right lane ran out of road and needed in so I let up on the gas. This car merged into my lane waved and sped up... then WHAM! I was rear-ended! The front wheel flopped right, but I stomped down to correct it and kept the PC up. I cleared the construction and pulled over. The Astro pulled in behind me and a woman jumped out and said "what did you do?", I told her that I didn't do anything and that "You hit me!" She replied "uh-uh" (meaning "no I didn't") The she looked at her bumper and said " there dosen't look like there's any damage" My brake light and turn signal lenses are cracked and the trunk lid is misaligned. I told her "we need to get the police" and she walked to a car lot close by to use the phone. At that moment a black pickup pulled up and a guy jumped out and asked if I was OK? He Explained that he rides a lot and was looking at my bike when the accident happened. He said that the woman wasn't looking when she hit me. I told him that she had an attitude and he said he couldn't stay but gave me his information in case I needed a witness. THe woman came back and said the police would be here in about 1/2 an hour, but it didn't look like THAT MUCH DAMAGE. I told her that even though it didn't look like much, I wouldn't be suprised if it were $1000. Her reply was "I knew it! You're just going to keep the money!" AT this point all communication was discontinued. When the police came, she ran over and started jabbering to the officer. Since I was rear-ended and she was clearly at fault, I waited by my bike untill the cop walked over and asked what happened and I told him " I looked over my shoulder, signaled & merged into the left lane. A few seconds later another car merged and I let up on the gas and got hit in the rear." He put the woman in the cruiser and took her information, a few minutes later he let her out and she left. I got in the cruiser and gave him my information and I WAS CITED ! I was amazed and told him I was rear-ended and I thought she was at fault! He said normaly yes, but in this situation I merged into her lane and it is considered "unsafe lane change"! I asked I the woman was cited? "No" he replied! He said I could mail the $80 fine in or go to court. I going to court next Friday @ 9:00...wish me luck! Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KSKIE@aol.com for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:11:55 EDT Subject: PC800: Will Edwards Trip To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Hello my name is kathy and I'm Will's daughter...he wanted me to post an email each day as to where they are on thier trip... On thursday he got a late start and only made it to Spokane...he wanted me to tell you they are taking Hwy 2... On 9.2.2000 they made it to East Glacier Park with a total milage of 423... I'll send another update as soon as I hear from him.. kathy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:22:29 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "MTW" CC: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" >I was amazed and told him I was rear-ended and I thought she was at fault! >He said normaly yes, but in this situation I merged into her lane and it is >considered "unsafe lane change"! >I asked I the woman was cited? "No" he replied! > >He said I could mail the $80 fine in or go to court. > >I going to court next Friday @ 9:00...wish me luck! Too bad that witness didn't stay around. Get a lawyer, get the witness, and go to court. I highly recommend that you don't try to do this on your own - the prosecutor will run rings around you if you aren't a lawyer, even with the judge cutting you slack ... if he/she feels like cutting you slack at all. Good luck, and let us know how it goes. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:27:46 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: PC transport query Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:24:28 -0500 Larry, Congratulations on your purchase. I bought mine in Dec. here in Indiana and felt it was too cold to ride it home, also I had a VLX to trade and I wasn't about to ride it 150 miles in 20 degree weather. I borrowed a friend's pick-up which is a full sized Ford with the long bed, and both bikes fit easily. I used straps to hold the bikes in place and a 2 X 10 to get them in the truck. The scariest part was riding the VLX into the truck bed the first time, I knew that my feet wouldn't reach after I had gotten onto the board, but all went well. At the dealership, they helped and I didn't ride the PC but pushed it into the truck. We had one guy on each side and one steering and braking. The tie downs with ratcheting action held the bike with no motion at all and there was no damage to either bike. Hope this helps, Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) His 90 PC (Red Hot ) Hers ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: PC800: PC transport query > I have arranged to buy an '89 PC but must go 600+ miles to pick it up. I > have a small pickup with an 86" bed available to use but don't know if that > is adequate to safely transport the bike. I will appreciate suggestions and > comments from those who have had similar transporting experience. > > Larryb > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "joannie" To: "MTW" Cc: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:33:18 -0500 Chris - In a rear end accident, it is normally the fault of the vehicle running into the other one. The other driver may have told the officer that you just cut in front of her, missing her by inches, then braked hard. Try to get attorney. If you can not get one into court with you on that short of a notice, contact the court ahead of time, let them know you have retained attorney so and so, and that he / she will be representing you. They may require you to go to court on that day anyway to formally ask for a "continuance" for a later date when you can have the attorney you have ALREADY retained with you. Be sure the attorney knows about the witness. Of course, you will want your witness there with you. Joannie Karcher St. Louis CBR1100XX 98 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:53:12 -0400 From: Dale To: Beau Williams CC: J Serlo , PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcyclist tribute to John McQuide (Long) I'd guess that people who had husbands wifes and children riding motorcycles were already aware. Those that you would want to reach would be all the others. Need to think of something different to get their attention. > Beau Williams wrote: > > My response... > > ...the drunk driving awareness was created by the classic WIIFM > approach. (WIIFM = What's In It For Me?) By pointing out that the > drunk driver's next victim could easily by your child or relative, > they hit where it hurts. Once that connection was made, you felt like > you had a vested right in reducing the drunk driving accidents, 'cause > you were banking that it might also reduce the possibility that your > loved ones would "be next". This is how MADD works..."Mothers" > Against Drunk Driving has much clearer connotations and meaning than > "People" Again Drunk Driving. > > If we were to attempt to increase awareness in car vs motorcycle > incidents, etc., we would need to point out that the "next" biker > victim could easily be your husband, father or brother - it would make > a connection with the listening cager that makes a deeper message than > just trying to warn you about some faceless/nameless stereotype on a > Harley. (Besides, there's the long-held biker image to fight > through.) > > This can be done, but it wouldn't be effective until you bring it home > first... > > ..."Darth" Beau -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "joannie" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? of "Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:36:24 CDT." <000901c01526$0cc2afc0$9c0e8ad1@joanniep.mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:29:11 -0500 "joannie" writes: > > My husband and I both ride unfaired bikes. We have tried CB radios with > J&M headsets installed by Niehaus Cycles. They are ineffective above 55 - 60 > MPH. We have also tried Chatterboxes with the same problem. You are trying to fix the wrong thing. No radio is going to solve the problem of noise over 55 MPH. J&M, Radio Sound, and all, make fantastic claims as to their microphone's ability to reject noise and wind. Have often wondered but not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to find out. A magazine arrived the other day with a page or so on J&M. Of course the microphone worked perfect for the author. But a "noise spike" from the Hardley's electrical system locked the VOX open at speed. And of course J&M has solved this problem with yet another revision in the continual refinement of their product. Pardon my sarcasm, its not directed at J&M but this was the same magazine that printed Motorcycle Oil Company Propaganda as Fact a couple of months ago. And this month they printed letters thanking them for technical excellence and daring to expose the "oil myths and facts". If your problem is the speakers are not loud enough at speed, then that would be solvable with an amplifier in the speaker line. Don't know who would make such an amp. Maybe an audio store sells headphone amps for walkans? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FGZPJRMW; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 21:40:04 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:41:11 -0500 Subject: PC800: Trail of Tears From: Tony L Miller Anyone riding? If so, where are you joining up? I am planning on joining the ride at Florence, AL. The ride is Sept. 16. Dave, are you riding this year? Tony Miller '97 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:58:35 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Robert H Walton To: "'Beau Williams'" , pc Subject: RE: PC800: Mirrors and bolts Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:48:53 -0700 Hi, I'd suggest instead of hunting for a right hand bolt for your mirror, undo the left hand bolt and trot to your nearest hardware store and duplicate it. They all carry metric bolts and nuts. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams [SMTP:gobeaugo@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 3:18 PM To: pc Subject: PC800: Mirrors and bolts If anyone needs a right-hand mirror for their PC, let me know. I'll let you have it for the price of shipping. (When I bought my 94 PC this past February, it came with two right-hand mirrors (one in the right housing and one turned upside-down in the left housing.) The one in the left housing was functional, but left me with a heck of a blind-spot on that side, because I couldn't turn it out all the way.) Well; thanks to Phillips Wong, I now have a left-hand mirror where it belongs, in the left housing. Of course, I now have a spare right-hand mirror which I don't need, thus the offer. The mirror is in perfect condition, no scratches in either the mirror or its base, with all 3 screws. Let me know if you'd like it. First consideration will be given to whomever offers to include a spare allen/hexagon bolt for the handlebar weights, with their check. (I also secured a replacement handlebar weight, but still need the bolt to lock it in.) "Darth" Beau Ventura Co., CA 1994 Black PC 800 "Emperor Palpatine" << File: ATT00000.htm >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 22:14:19 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Cc: joanniep@mindspring.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) CycleComm makes what they call a Walkman stereo amplifier. It's $149.00. I don't know how it works or even how it connects to ones system, but a call or email to Ron Fischer (ron@cyclecomm.com) would give answers to all questions. I bought my CB from him and he is very easy to do business with. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" dkelly@hiwaay.net writes: >"joannie" writes: >> >> My husband and I both ride unfaired bikes. We have tried CB radios with >> J&M headsets installed by Niehaus Cycles. They are ineffective above 55 - 60 >> MPH. We have also tried Chatterboxes with the same problem. > >You are trying to fix the wrong thing. No radio is going to solve the >problem of noise over 55 MPH. J&M, Radio Sound, and all, make fantastic >claims as to their microphone's ability to reject noise and wind. Have >often wondered but not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to find out. > >A magazine arrived the other day with a page or so on J&M. Of course the >microphone worked perfect for the author. But a "noise spike" from the >Hardley's electrical system locked the VOX open at speed. And of course >J&M has solved this problem with yet another revision in the continual >refinement of their product. Pardon my sarcasm, its not directed at J&M >but this was the same magazine that printed Motorcycle Oil Company >Propaganda as Fact a couple of months ago. And this month they printed >letters thanking them for technical excellence and daring to expose the >"oil myths and facts". > >If your problem is the speakers are not loud enough at speed, then that >would be solvable with an amplifier in the speaker line. Don't know who >would make such an amp. Maybe an audio store sells headphone amps for >walkans? > > >-- >David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net >===================================================================== >The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its >capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? of "Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:29:11 CDT." <200009030129.UAA85996@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 21:48:06 -0500 David Kelly writes: > > You are trying to fix the wrong thing. No radio is going to solve the > problem of noise over 55 MPH. J&M, Radio Sound, and all, make fantastic > claims as to their microphone's ability to reject noise and wind. Have > often wondered but not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to find out. Sort of bad form to reply to myself. But my point above is that the radio can not eliminate the noise, the microphone, helmet, windshield, etc, have to be the ones to deal with it. There are such things known as "noise canceling microphones". They work but you have to know their limits. By being sensitive to sound on the front as well as the back they only transmit the sounds heard from one side only. J&M and others work to tune their microphones to get the right balance of noise cancelation. So if I were rolling in money I might buy one of every motorcycle microphone until I found one that worked. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "MTW" , "cmh-moto" , "HSTA" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:15:56 -0700 Mike-- My counsel: Make a large chart of the scene. Go out and measure it if you have to. Do some homework. I, too, thought a punch in the back was auto fault of the driver behind. This is new to me. I think you have a case. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "cmh-moto" ; "HSTA" ; "PC800" Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 4:17 PM Subject: PC800: It finally happened. > 30+ years of riding and 250,000 miles, I had my first accident! (oh I > dropped my CB450 in the backyard once, but you know what I mean." > > Yesterday about 5:30 Pm, I was heading south on N.High Street in the right > lane. when I saw my lane had construction in it and I needed to merge left. > I came to a stop at a red light. The light changed and traffic started to > move, I looked over my left shoulder and saw that the Astro Van in the left > lane was back two car lenghts so I signaled and merged left. I accelerated a > little and shifted into second. I saw a car in the right lane ran out of > road and needed in so I let up on the gas. This car merged into my lane > waved and sped up... > then WHAM! I was rear-ended! The front wheel flopped right, but I stomped > down to correct it and kept the PC up. I cleared the construction and pulled > over. The Astro pulled in behind me and a woman jumped out and said "what > did you do?", I told her that I didn't do anything and that "You hit me!" > > She replied "uh-uh" (meaning "no I didn't") > > The she looked at her bumper and said " there dosen't look like there's any > damage" > My brake light and turn signal lenses are cracked and the trunk lid is > misaligned. > > I told her "we need to get the police" and she walked to a car lot close by > to use the phone. > > At that moment a black pickup pulled up and a guy jumped out and asked if I > was OK? He Explained that he rides a lot and was looking at my bike when the > accident happened. He said that the woman wasn't looking when she hit me. I > told him that she had an attitude and he said he couldn't stay but gave me > his information in case I needed a witness. > > THe woman came back and said the police would be here in about 1/2 an hour, > but it didn't look like THAT MUCH DAMAGE. I told her that even though it > didn't look like much, I wouldn't be suprised if it were $1000. Her reply > was "I knew it! You're just going to keep the money!" > > AT this point all communication was discontinued. > > When the police came, she ran over and started jabbering to the officer. > Since I was rear-ended and she was clearly at fault, I waited by my bike > untill the cop walked over and asked what happened and I told him " I looked > over my shoulder, signaled & merged into the left lane. A few seconds later > another car merged and I let up on the gas and got hit in the rear." > > He put the woman in the cruiser and took her information, a few minutes > later he let her out and she left. I got in the cruiser and gave him my > information and I WAS CITED ! > > I was amazed and told him I was rear-ended and I thought she was at fault! > He said normaly yes, but in this situation I merged into her lane and it is > considered "unsafe lane change"! > I asked I the woman was cited? "No" he replied! > > He said I could mail the $80 fine in or go to court. > > I going to court next Friday @ 9:00...wish me luck! > > > Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 > > Columbus Ohio > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:16:32 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: MWHITED@columbus.rr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Mike -- As a former prosecuting attorney for the Washington State Patrol, I can see another approach you may want to consider: 1. Give the witness a call and see if he can assist you by providing a written statement as to what he observed -- fully and completely. The statement should include when he first notice the vehicles, speed, distance between vehicles, traffic and weather conditions, etc. 2. In addition, you may want to make inquiry with your witness as to whether he could execute the statement before a notary. Although the rules of evidence precludes the court from accepting the declaration, it could be used as referenced below. [The witness can always be called to testify if necessary by service of a subpoena.] 3. Give the court clerk a call and determine how much time you have to contest the citation and set the matter for trial. 4. Take a photograph of the area where the accident occurred from different angles. Also, take a picture of any traffic controlling signs or signals on the road you were traveling, e.g., speed? yield? RR? 5. The law enforcement official cannot attest to the accident because he didn't observe its occurrence -- he can state that he noticed your PC damaged at the rear and that you stated you were the operator, but he didn't observe the operation of nor the collision between the vehicles. 6. Review your driving record for the last 3-5 years. 7. Request a copy of the Motor Vehicle Accident Report from the respective law enforcement authority, i.e., police department, Sheriff. 8. With the above information, request a meeting with the Deputy Prosecuting Attorney who is assigned to take the traffic cases that week. 9. Present your side of the story and suggest that there is insufficient evidence to warrant this case proceeding to trial based upon all of the above information -- at that point, the prosecutor can consider filing a motion to dismiss. The other alternative as recommended by some listers is to pay the freight and retain counsel who will attempt the above strategy prior to coming into court for trial to represent you. It's a judgment call. Good luck, Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:52:20 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Subject: PC800: Triumph Sprint Executive (Long) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:47:54 -0500 To all, I had a great day today. I decided to look into some options before painting my PC. You see my PC is a 90 model, and the paint is slightly faded, so I'm thinking about painting it, or selling it and getting something different. Today I rode about 250 miles and enjoyed them all. I went to a dealer that has a 98 Executive in excellent condition. Corbin seat, throttlemeister, factory bags etc (www.lakecycle.com) at a reasonable price. When I got there, they were VERY busy, which was fine with me. I had a chance to look around, get the blood back in my legs, and take a close look at the Triumph. I've read about it and the basic specs (97hp, 545lbs. luggage space, fairing, etc) sound great. When I see it I'm somewhat surprised at the fit and design, and I'm fairly sure that it won't be the next bike for me. Then I talk to the salesman who convinces me to take it for a ride. I notice that they have nothing else that I would be interested in so I sign the forms, put on my helmet while they have a mechanic warm it up and take a pre-ride on it which is standard for them. I had seen them do the same for others before my ride. I talked to the mechanic for a few moments, then I was off. WOW!!!! This bike is fast!!!! They have a specific route for the test rider that has city, county and multi-lane highway roads on it. The Triumph is powerful always, but once you get it "on song" at about 4500 rpm and up, hang on, it goes like #@*&%! It handled great and the brakes were very powerful. Other than that I hated the bike. The engine is directly attached to the frame and every move it makes is transmitted to the rider. The suspension is also VERY harsh. There is virtually no wind protection. It will go very fast, but the way it does it is so much like farm machinery or trucks or race cars, I'm sorry but I don't have the words. I'm reminded of a ride I once took in a buddy's $400 datsun pickup which was about a 1970 model that rattled, banged, and was so loud that a few minutes in it gave you an all day headache. I returned the keys and told the salesman to call me if he got a nice ST1100 or PC in, I'd come back to try those out. He promised that he would and then I went to my PC. There were two couples there looking at it. The one couple was waiting for my salesman, who put them on a Valkerie. The mechanic, who gave the first couple the Valkerie, asked what I thought about the Triumph. I told him and he smiled. I asked him about the two ST1100s that I saw in the service area. He told me that they belong to the owner and the lead mechanic, he rides a PC. The second couple asked a million questions about the PC and I told them about it and gave them a card with the list address on it. They were broken hearted when I told them that Honda doesn't make them anymore. Then I headed home. The ride home was so very sweet. I enjoyed every mile with my old bike (Freebee). Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:33:57 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Several good points have been made about handling your defense. Gordon seems to have integrated everything very nicely. My first small suggestion- add this to the pile, if you choose- is to retain a lawyer, explain the situation, and listen to him or her _closely_. He or she might know the local courts well enough to provide an alternative to what has been suggested. Otherwise.. Explain what Gordon mentioned as an option. Another suggestion would be to select your lawyer carefully. I was once ticketed for a minor traffic violation... Which occured during a trip out to watch my parent's house while they were on vacation. I took the ticket into the house with me, annoyed... Checked the place out, watched a little television, and then left... Completely forgetting about the ticket. (Unlike me. To this day I have no idea why I did this.) Several weeks later, my father called me in _severe_ alarm. A deputy had showed up at their place looking to serve a warrant. I consulted with a friend of mine- who was an attorney. He told me that this sounded like no big deal, and advised me on how to turn myself in, bail out, and prepare for court. I did this- and I must say, I had a wierdly entertaining time of it, I had been hanging out at the courthouse to follow the progress of a high profile murder case, and was by then well known to the police staffers, all of whom cheerfully shot me rafts of shit when I turned myself in as a wanted criminal. Feeling fairly confident, I settled in to await my court date. At which point my attorney pulled a vanishing act. He sent me in to request a continuance, unaided. It was granted, and the court date rescheduled. At which point, my lawyer had me ask for yet another continuance. This too was granted. Wondering whether or not my attorney was taking this as seriously as he ought, I confronted him...Only to be told that he was snowed under with other work, and that his plan was to ask for a _third_ continuance in order to get the court date scheduled more conveniently for him. Suspecting that a request for yet another continuance would be looked at rather unfavourably, I consulted with the court clerk... Who confirmed my suspicions. I fired my friendly attorney, and, out of patience, started dialing through the phone book for representation. The first couple of lawyers I consulted seemed pretty disinterested. The third laughed ruefully as I explained my situation, and suggested I drop by her office for a quick consult. When I met with her- in her post it note covered office, desk, computer, lampshades even- she seemed genuinely angry that my former lawyer had treated me in such a manner, and told me that she would talk with the local district attorney on my behalf. No fee was mentioned. After a few days, she called me, told me that she had discussed the matter with the D.A., and offered to take the case for a flat fee. We next met at the courthouse. She had a small chat with the opposition before we hit the courtroom, where she told me to plead guilty and just stand there politely. My case was called, the charges read out, my bladder swelled as I pled... And then my new lawyer told the judge that a deal had been worked out. Due to my otherwise clean record and solid citizenship, and in the interests of keeping the docket clear, the "people" were willing to let me walk with a fine... Which turned out to be smaller than the bail fee I had paid. The Judge confirmed this, asked me if I accepted, and.. Boom! Out of the courthouse scott free, with a _refund_ of the bail overage. My attorney declined my subsequent proposal of marriage. Later research revealed that she was _far_ from an amateur, and was, in fact, widely regarded as an up and comer. A year or so later, she established her own firm, which has become one of the more respected in the area. So... It pays to be judicious. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:44:52 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PCs and STs Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:44:52 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Keith Wood >Just when I was thinking about selling the PC for an St >there enters >another possibility. Have one of each! Works for me! And obviously a few other riders. Makes me wonder how many riders actually have both or at least have access to both because a spouse or S.O. has one. I know of four other than myself. IMHO I feel like I've got the best of both worlds by having them. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (12K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "Being President is like running a cemetery. You've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening." - President Clinton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:52:20 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu One more thing. Speaking to the rather surprising outcome of your accident.... Many years ago, I was broadsided by a mini van while pulling out of my parking space. As I was driving an Ancient and Honorable Toyota Landcruiser at the time- built like small tanks, those were, steroid enhanced Jeeps- I came out of it with a small crease in the door. The Minivan suffered several hundred dollars worth of damage. A traffic cop came to the scene. Both of us explained our situations. Parked on the street, I had seen that the lane was clear, and initiated a legal U turn to enter traffic. The mini van had barrelled around a blind corner out of a stop and rammed me. The officer gave _me_ the ticket, even though he agreed with my version of events. Right or wrong, from a strict legal perspective, it had been my responsibility to make certain that the way was clear, and I had failed to do this. I disagreed- feeling that there had been no way to account for the turning of a mini van that I could not see when I started my own turn. I took it to court, and lost. I paid a small fine, and my insurance company agreed to settle with the van driver... And I let the matter slide... A little irritated that the strictest possible interpretation of the law had gone against me. So.. Another example of what seems to be an illogical application of the law. And a warning- don't expect the court to go against the testimony of the officer on the scene. Expect the best, prepare for the worst... And remember that no one is doing this out of animus. Interestingly enough, the owners of the mini van attempted to soak my insurance for a total replacement of the vehicle- which they had driven away from the scene, and, in fact, back to their home in Colorado post accident. They also attempted to pile on a medical claim for the driver's neck.... The same officer who had given me the ticket- and correspondingly, the fault in the matter- was questioned by my insurer. He went on record, explaining that the van had been driveable after the accident, and that the driver had refused an offer for an ambulance, showing no signs of any physical injury. He also sent me a note, stating that he felt "personally offended" by their behaviour, and that he was sorry that I had caught a bad break in all of this. As a consequence, I remain a firm supporter of my local police. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:29:26 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: MWHITED@columbus.rr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Just remember to tell the court that the other driver should have noticed that the left lane was ending and that ALL traffic was forced to merge right (I'm sure there were signs). A picture might help too. Hence SHE was required to give the right of way at that point (espeically with your blinker on). Moreover, a driver must keep their vehicle under proper control at all times, so she should have been traveling at a speed and safe distance enough (under the circumstances of merging traffic) to avoid causing an accident. Also, make sure you get, if not the witness in person, an affidavit or signed statement from the witness to bring to court. A statement that indicates the other driver was not looking in conjunction with your other comments could win the day. Also, make sure you note anything that would catch a drivers attention (bright color helmet, clothing, lights etc). Also, from experience, unsafe lane change means you weren't supposed to change lanes, but the construction required you to change lanes. So by definition, it wasn't unsafe. Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:35:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In terms of support of the local police... In december of last year, my stepdaughters college junker died at the foot of our street. We notified the police department of Green Bay it would be towed the following day (Christmas Eve day). Then, a neighbor called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have it towed since he did not like the looks of the car. The car was towed and cited for being in the way of traffic(very non busy street and NOT impeding traffic in any way). To make a long story short. We had to pay 100 dollars to have it removed from impound and towed to the junkyard, got cited for 25 buck ticket. I fought city hall and had the case dismised, and when I asked for the one hundred dollars back, was told by the prick city attorney that I was guilty. I did not know that he was both attorney AND judge. Wow! I filed a claim with the city and was turned down. What a racket. I should have taken my day in court and have the judge adjudicate the matter. My mistake was assuming that if the case was dismissed that I was not guilty. Yes, it was only for 125 bucks, but it was for the principle...sometimes, even if you are right, you are wrong! --- KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > One more thing. > > Speaking to the rather surprising outcome of your accident.... > > Many years ago, I was broadsided by a mini van while pulling out of > my > parking space. As I was driving an Ancient and Honorable Toyota > Landcruiser > at the time- built like small tanks, those were, steroid enhanced > Jeeps- I > came out of it with a small crease in the door. The Minivan suffered > several > hundred dollars worth of damage. > > A traffic cop came to the scene. Both of us explained our situations. > Parked > on the street, I had seen that the lane was clear, and initiated a > legal U > turn to enter traffic. The mini van had barrelled around a blind > corner out > of a stop and rammed me. > > The officer gave _me_ the ticket, even though he agreed with my > version of > events. Right or wrong, from a strict legal perspective, it had been > my > responsibility to make certain that the way was clear, and I had > failed to do > this. I disagreed- feeling that there had been no way to account for > the > turning of a mini van that I could not see when I started my own > turn. > > I took it to court, and lost. I paid a small fine, and my insurance > company > agreed to settle with the van driver... And I let the matter slide... > A > little irritated that the strictest possible interpretation of the > law had > gone against me. So.. Another example of what seems to be an > illogical > application of the law. And a warning- don't expect the court to go > against > the testimony of the officer on the scene. Expect the best, prepare > for the > worst... And remember that no one is doing this out of animus. > > Interestingly enough, the owners of the mini van attempted to soak my > > insurance for a total replacement of the vehicle- which they had > driven away > from the scene, and, in fact, back to their home in Colorado post > accident. > They also attempted to pile on a medical claim for the driver's > neck.... > > The same officer who had given me the ticket- and correspondingly, > the fault > in the matter- was questioned by my insurer. He went on record, > explaining > that the van had been driveable after the accident, and that the > driver had > refused an offer for an ambulance, showing no signs of any physical > injury. > He also sent me a note, stating that he felt "personally offended" by > their > behaviour, and that he was sorry that I had caught a bad break in all > of this. > > As a consequence, I remain a firm supporter of my local police. > > Kendall > 95 PC > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.63) with SMTP; 3 Sep 2000 08:50:01 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:49:50 +0200 >From: "David Kelly" > You are trying to fix the wrong thing. No radio is going to solve the > problem of noise over 55 MPH. J&M, Radio Sound, and all, make fantastic > claims as to their microphone's ability to reject noise and wind. Have > often wondered but not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to find out. I have a few tests of intercoms in a Dutch magazine here, the equivalent of MCN. In reading those and in seeing a lot of messages on other lists about intercoms I think there are indeed a lot of intercoms that are unreadable at speed, but there are a few that are readable at high speed. The magazine tested different combinations of intercoms and headsets on different kind of bikes at several speeds. Generally the ones that are still readable at high speed (even at > 120mph) are the Baehr and Autocom sets. They are expensive but apparently deliver quality. Check out their websites: http://www.autocom.co.uk (renewed) Baehr doesn't have a website as far as I know.. there's one Dutch shop with their products here: http://www.hobbyist.nl/baehr.html Emile www.ipcrc.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:51:31 -0400 To: Subject: RE: PC800: It finally happened. Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:50:42 -0400 Importance: Normal Why didn't you just get it towed the same day? Most people get their car towed right after a breakdown. If I saw a car left on my street and I had no idea who it belonged to I would call the Police too. You can't expect the police to tell the neighboor, don't worry about it, it will be towed tommorrow. Just my .02 If yourre in a smaller town like me, I can see the cops not having a problem with it, but then again neither would my neighboors, but if its medium to large, they just enforce the laws. Chris 98 PC800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Atkins Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 11:36 AM To: KGray96057@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. In terms of support of the local police... In december of last year, my stepdaughters college junker died at the foot of our street. We notified the police department of Green Bay it would be towed the following day (Christmas Eve day). Then, a neighbor called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have it towed since he did not like the looks of the car. The car was towed and cited for being in the way of traffic(very non busy street and NOT impeding traffic in any way). To make a long story short. We had to pay 100 dollars to have it removed from impound and towed to the junkyard, got cited for 25 buck ticket. I fought city hall and had the case dismised, and when I asked for the one hundred dollars back, was told by the prick city attorney that I was guilty. I did not know that he was both attorney AND judge. Wow! I filed a claim with the city and was turned down. What a racket. I should have taken my day in court and have the judge adjudicate the matter. My mistake was assuming that if the case was dismissed that I was not guilty. Yes, it was only for 125 bucks, but it was for the principle...sometimes, even if you are right, you are wrong! --- KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > One more thing. > > Speaking to the rather surprising outcome of your accident.... > > Many years ago, I was broadsided by a mini van while pulling out of > my > parking space. As I was driving an Ancient and Honorable Toyota > Landcruiser > at the time- built like small tanks, those were, steroid enhanced > Jeeps- I > came out of it with a small crease in the door. The Minivan suffered > several > hundred dollars worth of damage. > > A traffic cop came to the scene. Both of us explained our situations. > Parked > on the street, I had seen that the lane was clear, and initiated a > legal U > turn to enter traffic. The mini van had barrelled around a blind > corner out > of a stop and rammed me. > > The officer gave _me_ the ticket, even though he agreed with my > version of > events. Right or wrong, from a strict legal perspective, it had been > my > responsibility to make certain that the way was clear, and I had > failed to do > this. I disagreed- feeling that there had been no way to account for > the > turning of a mini van that I could not see when I started my own > turn. > > I took it to court, and lost. I paid a small fine, and my insurance > company > agreed to settle with the van driver... And I let the matter slide... > A > little irritated that the strictest possible interpretation of the > law had > gone against me. So.. Another example of what seems to be an > illogical > application of the law. And a warning- don't expect the court to go > against > the testimony of the officer on the scene. Expect the best, prepare > for the > worst... And remember that no one is doing this out of animus. > > Interestingly enough, the owners of the mini van attempted to soak my > > insurance for a total replacement of the vehicle- which they had > driven away > from the scene, and, in fact, back to their home in Colorado post > accident. > They also attempted to pile on a medical claim for the driver's > neck.... > > The same officer who had given me the ticket- and correspondingly, > the fault > in the matter- was questioned by my insurer. He went on record, > explaining > that the van had been driveable after the accident, and that the > driver had > refused an offer for an ambulance, showing no signs of any physical > injury. > He also sent me a note, stating that he felt "personally offended" by > their > behaviour, and that he was sorry that I had caught a bad break in all > of this. > > As a consequence, I remain a firm supporter of my local police. > > Kendall > 95 PC > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:51:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 10:52:33 -0700 From: Roger Pariseau To: Paul Atkins CC: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. Paul Atkins wrote: > Then, a neighbor called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have > it towed since he did not like the looks of the car. The car > was towed and cited for being in the way of traffic(very non > busy street and NOT impeding traffic in any way). Most places permit 72 hours parking in a legal, on street, unsigned spot before the cops move in. Perhaps your neighbor swings some weight down at city hall? In any event, you were not afforded due process. My little burg on the Left Coast requires 72 hours _after_ being notified before they call in the hook. > I fought city hall and had the case dismised, and when I asked > for the one hundred dollars back, was told by the prick city attorney > that I was guilty. I did not know that he was both attorney AND judge. > Wow! I filed a claim with the city and was turned down. City attorneys universally suck -- they all think they're minor gods. Since most of us citizens stay home and out of their way during city council meetings, they mostly _are_ minor gods. We've gotten the governments we deserve courtesy of our inattention. ON TOPIC: My little burg requires a certain number of motorcycle parking spaces (on concrete!) near the entrances to all new commercial developments. Isn't that nice of them? At a recent review of a planned Boys & Girls Club facility, some gawker in the audience questioned this requirement. I was sitting five seats away from him in my Brosch "summer cool" kevlar motorcycle jacket. Our city fathers -- who know me all too well -- stared at me, the questioner turned, looked my way, and then quietly sat back down. -- Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:21:20 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sheila A. Coneybeer" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:20:44 -0700 Mike and I use the Chatterbox HJC-FRS, which is designed as a bike to bike. We use it even when riding two up (we tried the intercom function, but didn't care for it). We solved the problem of road noise activating the vox control by NOT using the vox control... We use the push-to-talk switch all the time. Works great and we only transmit what we want, not every breath, sneeze or puff of wind. Our collective .02 cents worth... Sheila Suzi Shortstuff - 1996 Suzuki Intruder 800 - Still Learning Scarlett O'Honda - 1990 Honda PC800 - Passenger Only ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:49 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? > >From: "David Kelly" > > You are trying to fix the wrong thing. No radio is going to solve the > > problem of noise over 55 MPH. J&M, Radio Sound, and all, make fantastic > > claims as to their microphone's ability to reject noise and wind. Have > > often wondered but not willing to spend hundreds of dollars to find out. > > I have a few tests of intercoms in a Dutch magazine here, the equivalent > of MCN. In reading those and in seeing a lot of messages on other lists > about intercoms I think there are indeed a lot of intercoms that are > unreadable at speed, but there are a few that are readable at high speed. > The magazine tested different combinations of intercoms and headsets > on different kind of bikes at several speeds. Generally the ones that > are still readable at high speed (even at > 120mph) are the Baehr and > Autocom sets. They are expensive but apparently deliver quality. > > Check out their websites: > http://www.autocom.co.uk (renewed) > Baehr doesn't have a website as far as I know.. there's one > Dutch shop with their products here: http://www.hobbyist.nl/baehr.html > > Emile > www.ipcrc.org > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "bobkelly" To: Subject: PC800: test Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:12:52 +0100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "bobkelly" To: Subject: PC800: Scarborough Gold Cup Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:14:58 +0100 Hi All, Just a quick message to any of the pc 800 riders in the UK, next weekend = marks the 50 th anniversary of racing at the Olivers Mount race circuit = and promises to be a good venue with the likes of Mick Grant and Barry = Sheane attending. If any of you would like to meet up at Olivers Mount = drop me a line. bob-kelly@lineone.net racing=20 at the Olivers Mount race circuit and promises to be a good venue with = the likes=20 of Mick Grant and Barry Sheane attending. If any of you would like to = meet up at=20 Olivers Mount drop me a line.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.66) with SMTP; 3 Sep 2000 14:03:21 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: PC names updated Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:03:02 +0200 The PC800 name list is now updated on www.ipcrc.org , the internet Pacific Coast Riders Club See PC800 Various, check if you see your PC name or if it is correct. Send updates to the email address mentioned on the page, not to me please. Enjoy, Emile www.piloot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: RE: PC800: It finally happened. To: xcontrol@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu It was late in the afternoon and the tow truck driver could not get to it that day. The purpose of notifiying the police was if anyone DID call, they would be able to tell the caller. In Green Bay, a small town - really, that would be the expectation... --- xcontrol@erols.com wrote: > Why didn't you just get it towed the same day? Most people get their > car > towed right after a breakdown. > > If I saw a car left on my street and I had no idea who it belonged to > I > would call the Police too. You can't expect the police to tell the > neighboor, don't worry about it, it will be towed tommorrow. > > Just my .02 > > If yourre in a smaller town like me, I can see the cops not having a > problem > with it, but then again neither would my neighboors, but if its > medium to > large, they just enforce the laws. > > Chris > 98 PC800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf > Of > Paul Atkins > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 11:36 AM > To: KGray96057@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. > > > In terms of support of the local police... > In december of last year, my stepdaughters college junker died at the > foot of our street. We notified the police department of Green Bay it > would be towed the following day (Christmas Eve day). Then, a > neighbor > called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have it towed since he did not > like the looks of the car. The car was towed and cited for being in > the > way of traffic(very non busy street and NOT impeding traffic in any > way). To make a long story short. We had to pay 100 dollars to have > it > removed from impound and towed to the junkyard, got cited for 25 buck > ticket. I fought city hall and had the case dismised, and when I > asked > for the one hundred dollars back, was told by the prick city attorney > that I was guilty. I did not know that he was both attorney AND > judge. > Wow! I filed a claim with the city and was turned down. What a > racket. > I should have taken my day in court and have the judge adjudicate the > matter. My mistake was assuming that if the case was dismissed that I > was not guilty. Yes, it was only for 125 bucks, but it was for the > principle...sometimes, even if you are right, you are wrong! > --- KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > > One more thing. > > > > Speaking to the rather surprising outcome of your accident.... > > > > Many years ago, I was broadsided by a mini van while pulling out of > > my > > parking space. As I was driving an Ancient and Honorable Toyota > > Landcruiser > > at the time- built like small tanks, those were, steroid enhanced > > Jeeps- I > > came out of it with a small crease in the door. The Minivan > suffered > > several > > hundred dollars worth of damage. > > > > A traffic cop came to the scene. Both of us explained our > situations. > > Parked > > on the street, I had seen that the lane was clear, and initiated a > > legal U > > turn to enter traffic. The mini van had barrelled around a blind > > corner out > > of a stop and rammed me. > > > > The officer gave _me_ the ticket, even though he agreed with my > > version of > > events. Right or wrong, from a strict legal perspective, it had > been > > my > > responsibility to make certain that the way was clear, and I had > > failed to do > > this. I disagreed- feeling that there had been no way to account > for > > the > > turning of a mini van that I could not see when I started my own > > turn. > > > > I took it to court, and lost. I paid a small fine, and my insurance > > company > > agreed to settle with the van driver... And I let the matter > slide... > > A > > little irritated that the strictest possible interpretation of the > > law had > > gone against me. So.. Another example of what seems to be an > > illogical > > application of the law. And a warning- don't expect the court to go > > against > > the testimony of the officer on the scene. Expect the best, prepare > > for the > > worst... And remember that no one is doing this out of animus. > > > > Interestingly enough, the owners of the mini van attempted to soak > my > > > > insurance for a total replacement of the vehicle- which they had > > driven away > > from the scene, and, in fact, back to their home in Colorado post > > accident. > > They also attempted to pile on a medical claim for the driver's > > neck.... > > > > The same officer who had given me the ticket- and correspondingly, > > the fault > > in the matter- was questioned by my insurer. He went on record, > > explaining > > that the van had been driveable after the accident, and that the > > driver had > > refused an offer for an ambulance, showing no signs of any physical > > injury. > > He also sent me a note, stating that he felt "personally offended" > by > > their > > behaviour, and that he was sorry that I had caught a bad break in > all > > of this. > > > > As a consequence, I remain a firm supporter of my local police. > > > > Kendall > > 95 PC > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of > > a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: Roger Pariseau Cc: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu We have snow in Green Bay, changes everything...no cars on the street overnight due to possible use of BIG ASS snow plows! :) Paul --- Roger Pariseau wrote: > Paul Atkins wrote: > > > Then, a neighbor called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have > > it towed since he did not like the looks of the car. The car > > was towed and cited for being in the way of traffic(very non > > busy street and NOT impeding traffic in any way). > > Most places permit 72 hours parking in a legal, on street, unsigned > spot before the cops move in. Perhaps your neighbor swings some > weight down at city hall? In any event, you were not afforded due > process. My little burg on the Left Coast requires 72 hours _after_ > being notified before they call in the hook. > > > I fought city hall and had the case dismised, and when I asked > > for the one hundred dollars back, was told by the prick city > attorney > > that I was guilty. I did not know that he was both attorney AND > judge. > > Wow! I filed a claim with the city and was turned down. > > City attorneys universally suck -- they all think they're minor gods. > > Since most of us citizens stay home and out of their way during city > council meetings, they mostly _are_ minor gods. We've gotten the > governments we deserve courtesy of our inattention. > > ON TOPIC: My little burg requires a certain number of motorcycle > parking spaces (on concrete!) near the entrances to all new > commercial > developments. Isn't that nice of them? At a recent review of a > planned Boys & Girls Club facility, some gawker in the audience > questioned this requirement. I was sitting five seats away from him > in my Brosch "summer cool" kevlar motorcycle jacket. Our city > fathers > -- who know me all too well -- stared at me, the questioner turned, > looked my way, and then quietly sat back down. > > -- > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:26:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Song Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:25:48 -0500 If any of you are interested in the now-completed Pacific Coast version of "Luckenbach Texas" let me know off-list and I'll send you a copy. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 05:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 05:15:36 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/3/00 10:36:31 AM Central Daylight Time, patkins99@yahoo.com writes: << In terms of support of the local police... In december of last year, my stepdaughters college junker died at the foot of our street. We notified the police department of Green Bay it would be towed the following day (Christmas Eve day). Then, a neighbor called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have it towed since he did not like the looks of the car >> Years ago, I purchased- what is the current euphamism, a previously enjoyed?- car for the express purpose of taking a trip to Tennessee. The car- a disreputable Pinto era 73 Mustang- was cheaper than either a plane or a bus ticket... (By the way, there is something very satisfying indeed about buying a car that you _expect_ to die soon. A lot of the normal concerns evaporate.) The car lasted a lot longer than I expected. It made the trip easily... And surived so long that I started feeling wierd about the unkillable little thing. Started thinking that I should maybe turn the wrench on it a bit... To honor its fiesty spirit of naught else. It finally died- conveniently right in front of my apartment. I left it there, figuring that I could always get it towed to the junk yard. (The tow cost more money than I had.) The building across the street was a Bed and Breakfast. Despite the completely normal outer appearance of the beast, they correctly identified it as a junker, and had the police come by and mark the tire... Preperatory to a tow away. You all probably know the drill. They mark a tire with chalk, and if mark is in the same place, next time they drive by, they cite you. If the car still has not moved after that, they tow you. I amused myself for a month- on general principle- by pushing the car back and forth, making certain that it was technically moved to a new position every time I caught a chalk marker. Eventually, the police put a tow threat/ticket on it anyway. Curious as to the limits of the law, I called city hall and explained that, as the car was clearly being moved... The abandoned/junker tow was not applicable. They told me that the thing was _not_ being moved under it's own power- damned neighbor must have seen me and my friends pushing it around- and that they would _indeed_ tow it, should I fail to get it off the street. I thought about this for a bit. A day or two, actually. Then I called city hall again. I asked what would be done if I did not comply with them, and leave the car sitting. Well... It would be towed and eventually sold. The city would keep whatever was gained from the sale to cover tow, inpound and fine, and mail me a check for whatever was left. As you can imagine... I considered this a fine example of a problem resolving itself. The car would never drive again, and would almost cost more to dispose of than it had to purchase. If I behaved like a good citizen and took care of the situation myself... I would be out of pocket. If I behaved like a reprobate, on the other hand, and just let things be... The local government would pay to have the thing removed for me, sell it, and apply whatever they got- assumably scrap value- to their costs. Which is exactly what happened. The city had it towed, sent me a nice notice of inpound, another nice notice of inpending sale, and finally, a sheet of paper detailing the ultimate disposition of my property- what they got for it, and how that had been applied to my fees and fines. It didn't quite come out even... Theoretically, the city of Lincoln still owes me some cash... But.. I figured that it would be unwise to push the issue any further over a handful of dollars. So, again... A clear incident where what started out as a sort of problem involving the local police and government.... Ended up being a positive experience.... KcG -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 08:37:41 -0400 From: Dale To: KGray96057@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. You must have some really expensive tow truck operators. Hard to believe that after towing by city and fines plus any of their other expenses, it was still cheaper than if you had it towed yourself. Wish the any of governments I deal with were that cheaply run. Maybe we should pass another law to make it that way. KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/3/00 10:36:31 AM Central Daylight Time, > patkins99@yahoo.com writes: > > << In terms of support of the local police... > In december of last year, my stepdaughters college junker died at the > foot of our street. We notified the police department of Green Bay it > would be towed the following day (Christmas Eve day). Then, a neighbor > called the SAME POLICE DEPARTMENT to have it towed since he did not > like the looks of the car > >> > Years ago, I purchased- what is the current euphamism, a previously enjoyed?- > car for the express purpose of taking a trip to Tennessee. The car- a > disreputable Pinto era 73 Mustang- was cheaper than either a plane or a bus > ticket... > > (By the way, there is something very satisfying indeed about buying a car > that you _expect_ to die soon. A lot of the normal concerns evaporate.) > > The car lasted a lot longer than I expected. It made the trip easily... And > surived so long that I started feeling wierd about the unkillable little > thing. Started thinking that I should maybe turn the wrench on it a bit... To > honor its fiesty spirit of naught else. > > It finally died- conveniently right in front of my apartment. I left it > there, figuring that I could always get it towed to the junk yard. (The tow > cost more money than I had.) > > The building across the street was a Bed and Breakfast. Despite the > completely normal outer appearance of the beast, they correctly identified it > as a junker, and had the police come by and mark the tire... Preperatory to a > tow away. > > You all probably know the drill. They mark a tire with chalk, and if mark is > in the same place, next time they drive by, they cite you. If the car still > has not moved after that, they tow you. > > I amused myself for a month- on general principle- by pushing the car back > and forth, making certain that it was technically moved to a new position > every time I caught a chalk marker. Eventually, the police put a tow > threat/ticket on it anyway. > > Curious as to the limits of the law, I called city hall and explained that, > as the car was clearly being moved... The abandoned/junker tow was not > applicable. They told me that the thing was _not_ being moved under it's own > power- damned neighbor must have seen me and my friends pushing it around- > and that they would _indeed_ tow it, should I fail to get it off the street. > > I thought about this for a bit. A day or two, actually. Then I called city > hall again. I asked what would be done if I did not comply with them, and > leave the car sitting. Well... It would be towed and eventually sold. The > city would keep whatever was gained from the sale to cover tow, inpound and > fine, and mail me a check for whatever was left. > > As you can imagine... I considered this a fine example of a problem resolving > itself. The car would never drive again, and would almost cost more to > dispose of than it had to purchase. If I behaved like a good citizen and took > care of the situation myself... I would be out of pocket. If I behaved like a > reprobate, on the other hand, and just let things be... The local government > would pay to have the thing removed for me, sell it, and apply whatever they > got- assumably scrap value- to their costs. > > Which is exactly what happened. The city had it towed, sent me a nice notice > of inpound, another nice notice of inpending sale, and finally, a sheet of > paper detailing the ultimate disposition of my property- what they got for > it, and how that had been applied to my fees and fines. It didn't quite come > out even... Theoretically, the city of Lincoln still owes me some cash... > But.. I figured that it would be unwise to push the issue any further over a > handful of dollars. > > So, again... A clear incident where what started out as a sort of problem > involving the local police and government.... Ended up being a positive > experience.... > > KcG > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: All the printed information on the Pacific Coast... Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:35:01 -0400 Russ; Thanks for the link. I ordered them too for my "museum". I also put the link on my PC800 web site listed below. Elton Hammond P.Eng. (elton.hammond@ekho.com) 1997 PC800 ( http://www.ekho.com/elton/Motorcycling.html ) Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: PC800: All the printed information on the Pacific Coast... > ...can be found here: > > http://www.mcreports.com/Pages/Indivbikes/Honda/PC800.html > > I ordered the report and it covers all the printed material in magazines > about the PC800. > > I got it. Nice to have for nostalgia. > > Russ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:40:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Shocks Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:40:03 -0500 Okay, guys. Short, sweet and succinct. Need a recommendation for a pair of shocks that will increase the load-carrying capacity. Air shocks will do if there's any made for our machine. You can reply off-list if you want. Thanx, Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:30:16 +0000 To: "Ralph Couey" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Shocks Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:30:16 +0000 Hey, Ralph, if anyone sends you useful info off-list in response to your request for shock absorber info, please post it to the list, will you? You aren't the only PC owner needing new shocks and wanting a higher load capacity. Although one would never suspect looking at the slim svelte figure either of us presents, would one? ;-) I copied the text below from a May 4, 2000, post with the subject of PC800: Re: Rear Shocks: >The only options are Works Performance, and the French >units (air adjustable) that have been mentioned >recently. > >======================================================== >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia >EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >======================================================== -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Okay, guys. Short, sweet and succinct. Need a recommendation for a pair of > shocks that will increase the load-carrying capacity. Air shocks will do if > there's any made for our machine. You can reply off-list if you want. > > Thanx, > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:00:37 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "Ralph Couey" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Shocks Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:56:54 -0500 I believe that with the Works, you tell them how much you weigh and how much you are going to carry and they spring them accordingly. Keep in mind also that shocks are not the only thing affected by weight. You have bushing, bearings, brakes, u-joints, swing arm and frame wall thickness, shock brackets and tires that all go into the formula to figure out what the bike will carry. At 265, I know how to overload mine. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "Ralph Couey" Cc: "PC800 List" Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:30 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Shocks > Hey, Ralph, if anyone sends you useful info off-list in > response to your request for shock absorber info, please > post it to the list, will you? You aren't the only PC > owner needing new shocks and wanting a higher load > capacity. > > Although one would never suspect looking at the slim > svelte figure either of us presents, would one? ;-) > > I copied the text below from a May 4, 2000, post with > the subject of PC800: Re: Rear Shocks: > > >The only options are Works Performance, and the French > >units (air adjustable) that have been mentioned > >recently. > > > >======================================================== > >Selden Deemer > >Atlanta, Georgia > >EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > >======================================================== > > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > '89 PC800 > > > > > > Okay, guys. Short, sweet and succinct. Need a recommendation for a pair of > > shocks that will increase the load-carrying capacity. Air shocks will do if > > there's any made for our machine. You can reply off-list if you want. > > > > Thanx, > > Ralph Couey > > Columbia, MO > > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: PC names updated Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:43:47 -0700 Whew; I was checking the IPCRC site for the spelling on my PC's name and noticed that someone named their steed "Port-a-potti on Wheels". Man, I suuuuuuure hope this PC is the black model! ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:48:03 -0400 From: Dale To: Ralph Couey CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Shocks That's right, let's keep it a secret! Ralph Couey wrote: > > Okay, guys. Short, sweet and succinct. Need a recommendation for a pair of > shocks that will increase the load-carrying capacity. Air shocks will do if > there's any made for our machine. You can reply off-list if you want. > > Thanx, > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:53:05 -0400 From: Dale To: Beau Williams CC: Emile Nossin , PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC names updated Sounds like they're not real happy with the bike. Maybe they would consider selling it to someone who is looking for one. Beau Williams wrote: > > Whew; > > I was checking the IPCRC site for the spelling on my PC's name and noticed > that someone named their steed "Port-a-potti on Wheels". > > Man, I suuuuuuure hope this PC is the black model! > > ..."Darth" Beau > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List KGray96057@aol.com writes: > Which is exactly what happened. The city had it towed, sent me a nice > notice of inpound, another nice notice of inpending sale, and finally, > a sheet of paper detailing the ultimate disposition of my property-- > what they got for it, and how that had been applied to my fees and > fines. It didn't quite come out even... Theoretically, the city of > Lincoln still owes me some cash... But.. I figured that it would be > unwise to push the issue any further over a handful of dollars. This is the best tale I've seen on this list in some time. About 12 years ago, I traded in a 1981 Ford Escort wagon on a new car purchase. As the Pythons would say, "Say no more." A year later the police called, saying that the car had been stolen, and that I was the last recorded owner. Did I want the car back? "Hell, no," I said. "Getting rid of that beast was one of the happiest days of my life." There was a pause on the other end of the line. Then I heard the detective say, "Damn, this always happens to me." ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: PC transport query Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:35:08 -0700 I have carried mine in the back of pick up, but was a full bed 8' and bike just barely made it inside where I could close the tailgate, , D -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LBurr1939@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: PC800: PC transport query >I have arranged to buy an '89 PC but must go 600+ miles to pick it up. I >have a small pickup with an 86" bed available to use but don't know if that >is adequate to safely transport the bike. I will appreciate suggestions and >comments from those who have had similar transporting experience. > >Larryb >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: SL Swenson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Voltage Regulator Wanted Hi, I need to purchase a voltage regulator for my '89 PC800. Anyone have a working one they wish to sell? (reply directly please) (I replaced the stator, which was bad, but the bike's still not charging.) Also, I have an ignition box (igniter?) if anyone needs one of those. Please reply off list - I'm not currently a subscriber! Thanks mucho, scottswenson@email.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:52:14 -0400 Subject: PC800: Electric Clothing Heat Conroller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I have a very slightly used portable electronic heat controller I bought from Gerbing (http://www.gerbing.com/thermstt.htm) for my heated clothes. This particular one is a replacement for the original one I bought in 1998 which apparently had a manufacturing defect. I got this replacement one from Gerbing in the early spring of 2000 and only used it a couple of times until I installed a built in one on my fairing. It works great, the built in one is exactly like the one I am selling except it is not mounted in a box. You can find out more techincal details about it from the manufacturer's web site: http://www.warmnsafe.com/ I see it still costs $69.95, but they have decreased the size of the box. Mine is 1 X 2 X 3 inches. I'll sell it for $45 including shipping in the US. Contact me off list if you are interested. First come, first served. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 04:00:12 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: PC names updated Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:59:59 +0200 > ----- Original Message ----- > Sounds like they're not real happy with the bike. Maybe they would > consider selling it to someone who is looking for one. > > Beau Williams wrote: >> > > > Whew; > > > > I was checking the IPCRC site for the spelling on my PC's name and noticed > > that someone named their steed "Port-a-potti on Wheels". > > > > Man, I suuuuuuure hope this PC is the black model! > > > > ..."Darth" Beau Thanks for the input on the name ;-( It's written on the butt of Torill's WHITE 89 !! She does not fancy the name , but it was my first impression of the PC that made me name it. When I first saw a PC 800 for real back in 92, it was surely the ugliest bike I have ever seen and it did remind me of the port-a-pottie I had one onboard my first catamaran sailboat. It does not have to look so nice if it does the job it's supposed to do !! Put the butt on it and enjoy the time ;-) Why not confuse the public a little more with both the port-a-pottie AND the Tupperware logos on the bike ;-) When I sold the Triking and was looking for new bikes, I put down a list of things I wanted the bike to fulfil... and the PC 800 does all things very well indeed. If I should find a bike today that will do the same , I don't know where to find a new model on the market that even come close !! Last week I was in Hemsedal on TrollRally, 497 km's in 5h 47 minutes on Norwegian mountain roads, incl. 25 minutes ferry and one combined cig and tankfilling. According to My cyclecomputer the speed was never over 137 km/hour. I would like to see a crutchrocket follow that. It's has nothing to do with top speed but to get the bike rolling in a steady tempo for hours on.. I was ride with 3 alphabet soup bikes on the return home.... steady stops at 150 km's intervals and then they started to do their morning stretches time and time again... Viva the PC !! It is Torill's first bike and it was the bike she learned to ride on. She was not feeling that she was riding well enough until we had a trip with a girlfriend of her and her husband on their bikes one week-end. Then Torill found out that she really rides very well and put up a pace that the others wouldn't like to follow. I had to tell via the radio to slow down and after that she feels that she knows a little more and have more experience than her fellow sisters in riding on winding roads at a little more than walking speeds. I am very proud of her and after 10k miles on the bike she will not part with it at all. I know, because I advertised it last winter when she was at work on the platform and was told that I could not do that with her bike!! If one should go it had to be mine... but I'm in love with my Scooter on Steroids too........ if it ever will be sold... it will be replaced with a red 90 ;-) I am still in the process to finding a GB 500 Clubman in Germany, have two interesting ones at the moment and will hopefully go to Germany next week and return home with another of my dream bikes.. They are now around half price there compared to the USA.... They will also be a classic (as the PC 800) in the near future ! Better stock up ;-) Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCRC # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:54:05 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Bike to bike communication Help?? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I've got a Nady PRC-8 (check out www.nadywireless.com) which may offer you an inexpensive alternative. I paid about $70 for my unit direct from the company as a closeout. It has bike to bike feature (in short range) and driver to passenger mode, and an FM radio (which actually works ok though I don't use it). I previously used it on a bike without a windshield/faring, and it worked fine under 50mph. On the PC it works even better, even at highway speeds. The nice thing is that it is small - a walkman size unit which clips to your belt or jacket - so it isn't tied to your bike either. It comes with two headsets too. If you order two units, make sure they are set to same channel since you can't adjust the channels manually - they must be factory set. Good luck. Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Windshield height Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:03:33 -0500 Looks like I'm now in the market for a new windshield for the PC. The Rifle currently mounted is cracking after 4 seasons and 27K miles and I am seriously considering a Clearview, which brings me to my question - would someone on the list who has a Clearview +3 please measure from the top of the vent in the windshield to the top edge of the screen and send the measurement to me. I know that the Rifle and Clearview have different contours but this measurement will get me in the ballpark. For reference, my Rifle (a +5) measures 27 inches from the top edge of the vent trim to the tallest part of the windshield and I look through it. I would like to go with a shorter shield and would like this measurement to decide between a +3 or something shorter. Thanks in advance for any help. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KSKIE@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:13:31 EDT Subject: PC800: Dad's trip To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Hello again I'm here to update again on my dad progress... On 9.2.2000 they left Glacier Peak MT and made it to Rugby ND with a total milage of 690. On 9.3.2000 they left from Rugby ND and rode till Bemidji MN with a total milage of 250...they didn't ride to far on this day because they had ridden until 4am because they couldn't find a hotel...they finnally found one but it was at 4am....they had to be out of the room by 11am...so Dad said they were just to tired to do any more.. On 9.4.2000 they left Bemidji ND and made it to Marquette MI with a total milage of 400 miles....Dad and Bob now are going up into canada around the great lakes and coming out in ME... I'll post more of Dads trip when I hear from him kathy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:16:31 +0000 To: LBurr1939@aol.com (Larry Burrows) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: PC800: Fall Colors Tour Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 03:16:31 +0000 Larry, Congratulations on your PC purchase! Perhaps you can join us in Arkansas in October on the Fall Colors Tour. Mark Gilb has info on the Tour on Emile's Internet PC Riders' Club site at: www.ipcrc.org Hope to meet you then! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Learning to ride Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:30:22 -0500 As some of you know, I am currently teaching my 15 1/2 year old daughter to drive. This has been very educational (can you say Prozac?). Sunday, my neighbor knocks on my door about 5:00 p.m. and wants me to see what he just got. I walk over to the garage and there is a 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 750 that he bought from a cousin for a grand. It's in very nice shape cosmetically but need new rubber and a little TLC. He wants me to go riding with him Labor Day and give him some tips on maintenance. We spent most of today going over the bike and making a list of things to do. Needs a new front tire and a fork dust seals, which he is going to have a dealer do. I recommended that while the forks were off, might as well have them drain and refill the forks. We did an oil change, brake fluid change (the Mityvac got some more use) and changed the antifreeze. Changed the differential lube and generally checked and torqued fasteners. OK, now it's time for a ride. Ron hadn't ridden in about 5 years so we took a slow cruise out to the boonies and back, stopping several time along the way for smokes or water/soda. It struck me as we were heading back that this was a lot like teaching my daughter to drive. At each stop, we talked about the roads we had just been on and techniques for handling different road surfaces and obstacles. When we got back home, he was all smiles. We had done about 60 miles and the trip was completely uneventful. He confided that he started looking a couple of weeks ago when he saw me come home from the Starved Rock trip. He asked then where I had ridden to and I told him I went to Chicago for breakfast. Must have struck a chord somewhere in his soul because now he is a rider again. As we were sitting in his garage having a post-ride beer, his wife came out and asked how it had gone, as she was clearly worried. Ron's answer made my entire year; "No problem. I went with Mark, he's the best rider I know." To each of you on the list who has shared your knowledge and love of motorcycling, I owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You have made me a better, smarter rider than I could have made myself. Hope everyone had as fine a Labor Day as I had. Thanks again. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: September Ride Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:47:47 -0500 To those of you who have expressed interest in the September ride, I apologize for the lack of info from my end. We finally got a break in the heat today and it's just been too darn hot to pre-run the route. It will give me something to do next weekend. If anyone else is interested in joining, let me know. The ride will take place 23 - 24 September in Arnold, Mo., starting from the Drury Inn. My guess on ride mileage now is about 180, split evenly between the Arnold - Ste. Genevieve leg and the Ste. Genevieve - Waterloo leg. On a side note, I did finally find the new MicroTel Inn in Arnold but it is not yet open. Looks like it is finished but the lot was completely vacant this afternoon when we rode by. I guess that it will open in the next week or two. Looks like we have between 10 - 15 participants, depending on last minute arrivals and scratches. I am gathering a list of restaurants in the area and mapping out a route that should provide a good mix of twisties and cruising. For those interested in the Sunday ride only, looks like we will leave between 9:30 & 10:00, which should put us in Ste. Genevieve around Noon. After lunch, the ferry ride and trip back to Waterloo should take about two hours, leaving time for everyone to make it home mostly in daylight. I look forward to seeing all of you here later this month. Rich Fenwick asked that I reserve the same weather that Bill Drake had at Starved Rock and I can only hope that we are that lucky. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: PC transport query To: di9731@vci.net (Doug) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 100 21:14:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: LBurr1939@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I rented a motorcycle trailer from U-Haul for under $15 for the day. I drove it down to southern AZ, about 150 miles, and brought the bike back without incident. Buy at least two long (15') ratchet type tie downs and weave them through the crash bars. (Remove the screw under the front bar covers, then squeeze and fiddle until they come off. The back ones are easy.) Put the four plastic pieces and the two screws some place where they won't get lost, and make sure the tie downs are tight. On advice here, I did NOT run the tie downs over the tank, the seat, or through the handle bars. I am very glad it all worked out for me, and wish you the same luck! In an earlier email to me Doug said: > > I have carried mine in the back of pick up, but was a full bed 8' and bike > just barely made it inside where I could close the tailgate, , > D > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LBurr1939@aol.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:29 PM > Subject: PC800: PC transport query > > > >I have arranged to buy an '89 PC but must go 600+ miles to pick it up. I > >have a small pickup with an 86" bed available to use but don't know if that > >is adequate to safely transport the bike. I will appreciate suggestions > and > >comments from those who have had similar transporting experience. > > > >Larryb > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:21:52 -0700 (MST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: PC800: Torque on oil filter? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 100 03:21:52 -0700 (MST) Hi, First oil change - a tremendous success! Well, for me, anyway. I'm not exactly mechanically inclined. I've got virtues, understand, but mechanics isn't one of them. So when I got all done, took it for a spin, and there were still no leaks, I was mighty proud. There was just one thing that bothered me. I bought the bar-type torque wrench from Sears, and the plastic cap oil filter wrench from Wal Mart, like a lot of people were discussing here a few months back. I can not seem to get the torque wrench into the filter wrench (yes, they're both 3/8") once the filter is screwed in hand tight. I finally gave up and just went a bit better than snug with the ratchet handle. (I just did 25 ft-lb on the drain plug, so the 10 ft-lb requirement wasn't so hard a guess.) I was wondering if anyone else had this same experience. Thanks. And lest I forget, a big THANK YOU to whoever took the time to write the 13-step oil change at www.iPCRC.org, which I have inside a flat clear plastic holder. Two things to add are the 17mm size of the drain plug (easy to discover), and that auto supply stores will accept and dispose of the used oil at no cost. I use the recommended 6-quart drain container and took it over to Pep Boys. They had a sign up that said to give it to any of their people, and I did. He just dumped it into the barrel of oil they usually roll under the cars. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:43:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Shocks "Ralph Couey" writes: > Okay, guys. Short, sweet and succinct. Need a recommendation for a > pair of shocks that will increase the load-carrying capacity. Air > shocks will do if there's any made for our machine. You can reply > off-list if you want. The owner of Works Performance rides a PC. When I ordered a pair, I spoke with someone who was clearly an engineer, and he interviewed me about weight and riding style. The rate and preload settings were spot on when I got the shocks. The only problem was that I thought the lower bushing on the left shock was a little large; I shimmed it with some .005 brass shim stock. I've got about 3000 miles on the shocks and continue to be pleased with the ride comfort and control -- both much improved over stock. Works will also build extra or long shocks (although possibly for a slight extra charge). It's somewhat surprising, but changing the shocks on a PC is actually one of the easier maintenance procedures, and could probably be done in an hour, although 2 hours is more realistic if one factors cleaning up the grunge that collects around the rear end. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:26:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:26:30 EDT My fiancee and I are looking to get away for an overnight camping trip on the PC this weekend and are considering the Lake George, NY area. Can anyone recommend a good site? How about must-ride roads in the area? Thanks, Nick _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:41:52 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? >My fiancee and I are looking to get away for an overnight camping >trip on the PC this weekend and are considering the Lake George, NY >area. Can anyone recommend a good site? How about must-ride roads >in the area? > >Thanks, >Nick >_________________________________________________________________________ Tim Davies! Now's your chance to organize that upstate New York Rally I dreamed you were doing! You could make my dreams come true!! Nick, Seriously, I rode recently on Route 8 through Speculator and Route 28 (I think) through Old Forge, and both were beautiful rides. I recommend either route highly. There is a stand in Speculator where you can get llama fat if it rains. Don't know about camping areas, sorry. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:56:11 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 Cc: "'ssult@cascade.quik.com'" Subject: PC800: YES ! Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:56:08 +0200 I finally got the green light for the last three days still standing between me and the mega-PC- Tupperware Party ! YESSSS!!!!!!!!!! I'm typing this from work, I'll be seeing this office again in 2 weeks. I'll try to get a ride on the NW35 to Seattle on thursday and the Alaska/NW2053 to Redmond Oregon after that. The first leg shouldn't be a problem since it's not overbooked (I'm flying stanby). In redmond I'll be meeting Steve and Tina. Steve is the nicest man on earth, I can borrow his ST for the entire party : )))) I still have to arrange hotels for the trip, I hope to do that this afternoon or 2morrow, if there's anybody thinking about sharing his/her room I wouldn't mind that either, in that case contact me ASAP on this address: E.M.Nossin@Quicknet.nl Later dudes, Emile ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:24:51 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? To: nwright98@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) nwright98@hotmail.com writes: >My fiancee and I are looking to get away for an overnight camping trip on >the PC this weekend and are considering the Lake George, NY area. Can >anyone recommend a good site? How about must-ride roads in the area? > >Thanks, >Nick I can send you, and anyone else who wants them, maps and descriptions of 17 tours of the Adirondack region around Lake George from previous Americades (sorry none from this year). I have them in PDF files so you will need Adobe's free Acrobat Reader to view/print them. I have then in Zipped files so you will need one of the free applications to unZip them. Macintosh users can use Stuffit Expander to do the job. I see you have a Hotmail account which I know limits the size of your mailbox. For you and others with these limitations I have the maps split into two Zipped files, one of 524K and the other 756K. The single file is 1.2 megs. Let me know if you are interested and they will be there momentarily. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:24 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Grant Subject: PC800: Ron Safe at Home.... To: Susan Bruce Cc: Steve Langford , PCUSA M/Cgroup , Livia Mackin , ian Mcnaughten , duke seattle , Eli Schneider Beverly Silverman , Vincent Sullivan , Paul Varfis , Patty Wilson , Hap Wood , "Bobw. California" , BruceSOSO} Clarke , Richard Culmone , Bill Easter , Doris Endo , Ken Foreman , MaryPaulS Gibson , brenda gooding , Tina Grant , John Heather Hartles , Peter Hively , Steve Ispas , Rey Joseph , Grahame Keast , Bernie Kemp Hi everyone.....took the midnight flight from Darwin into Brisbane Monday....already at work to try and replenish the bank balance. It was another great trip with a overload of experiences in 14 countries and TOOO many souvenieirs! I have lots more to write, especially about Cambodia, but I think it will be delayed due to presing re-settlement matters. Riding the NSR150RR to work, realized HOW much I missesd a fast stret bike when I was on the Honda 250 in Cambodia.....so good to do the "lean" thing again! Would lave to hear YOUR news, and I apologize for all the cryptic or non messages while I was on the road.....surely by this weekend I will be able to try and redress that. ===== Ron Grant
Now in BRISBANE! 28000 miles ....14 countries....so many stories! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:35:34 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >>My fiancee and I are looking to get away for an overnight camping >>trip on the PC this weekend and are considering the Lake George, NY >>area. Can anyone recommend a good site? How about must-ride roads >>in the area? >> >>Thanks, >>Nick >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >Tim Davies! Now's your chance to organize that upstate New York Rally >I dreamed you were doing! You could make my dreams come true!! > >Nick, > >Seriously, I rode recently on Route 8 through Speculator and Route 28 >(I think) through Old Forge, and both were beautiful rides. I >recommend either route highly. There is a stand in Speculator where >you can get llama fat if it rains. > >Don't know about camping areas, sorry. > > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor >The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering >205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue >Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ I'll have to pass on "organizing" one for this weekend (haven't had my part of the dream yet Betty Lise), but it would be great to visit with a fellow Coaster this weekend in the Adirondacks. This is the first day of school and I'm already stir crazy... is it June yet? Also, everyone should remember the two Coaster's weekends Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen), aka captaintupperware@yahoo.com is organizing for the last two weekends in September. I and the Yankee Smuggler will be at the second one, Sept. 29-Oct.1. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:19:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics To: PC800 --- Ken Cyr wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) > Reply-to: cyr_ken@yahoo.com > From: Ken Cyr > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > > Subject: New Honda Spy Pics > > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "joannie" To: "Mark Gilb" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: September Ride Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:04:27 -0500 Hi Mark, I live in Antonia (near Barnhart, south of St. Louis). Can't pass up a ride that originates in my back yard. As long as I am in town, I'll be there. Joannie St. Louis CBR 1100XX 98 PC 800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mark Gilb To: PC800 List Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: PC800: September Ride >To those of you who have expressed interest in the September ride, I >apologize for the lack of info from my end. We finally got a break in the >heat today and it's just been too darn hot to pre-run the route. It will > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "joannie" To: , , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:26:44 -0500 Gorden: Excellent advice! I'm keeping a copy just in case I ever need it. Thanks! Joannie St. Louis CBR 1100XX 98 PC 800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com To: MWHITED@columbus.rr.com ; PC800 Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: Re: PC800: It finally happened. >Mike -- > >As a former prosecuting attorney for the Washington State Patrol, I can see >another approach you may want to consider: > >1. Give the witness a call and see if he can assist you by providing a -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: 1st ride Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:54:38 -0400 Took my first "real" ride this weekend. Put on 450 miles over the = holiday weekend. The trip was about 8 hours round trip. Its been quite = a while since I took that type of trip, and although I was a little sore = in the normal places, I must say that the PC was awesome and after doing = the same type of trip with a HD sportster, I can tell you that I don't = think anyone will convince me that there is a better bike out there. I = love the PC. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all..." on 450 miles over the holiday weekend.  The trip was about 8 hours = round=20 trip.  Its been quite a while since I took that type of trip, and = although=20 I was a little sore in the normal places, I must say that the PC was = awesome and=20 after doing the same type of trip with a HD sportster, I can tell you = that I=20 don't think anyone will convince me that there is a better bike out = there. =20 I love the PC.
 
Mickey
89PC "Shadowfax"
 
"One bike to rule them=20 all..."
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:01:12 -0500 To: Roger Ries , PC800 From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Hmmm... Very interesting. However, the date at the bottom on the three pictures concerns me... '87 1 2. (January 2, 1987). Could these pictures possibly be from when they were developing the current generation GW (which was released in 1989 I believe?) Also, one thing that makes me wonder this even more, is that the last picture on the second page (the current generation GW with the camera mounted on the tank) does NOT have the same date stamp on the picture, which would lead me to believe it was NOT taken at the same time as the other three.... Note that the "camera" GW is no where to be seen in the other pictures. Just my thoughts... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 http://pc_800.tripod.com fenwick@nn.com HRCA - HM725413 >> Subject: New Honda Spy Pics >> >> http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm >> http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from >> anywhere! >> http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > >===== >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN >'98 PC800W - Red Alert >PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:09:32 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:05:07 -0500 The bottom picture on page 1 has a late model Camaro, unless that was a 1987 Camaro spy pic of a late 90's model. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. Fenwick" > pictures concerns me... '87 1 2. (January 2, 1987). Could these pictures > possibly be from when they were developing the current generation GW (which > was released in 1989 I believe?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:26:00 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics I wouldn't say late 90's... Chevy has sold that particular body style since 1992. There's a few years difference there... However, if so, your eyes are better than mine. I'll have to run that pic through my software at home to enlarge it and clean it up to positively tell. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 http://pc_800.tripod.com fenwick@nn.com HRCA - HM725413 At 01:05 PM 09/05/2000 -0500, you wrote: >The bottom picture on page 1 has a late model Camaro, unless that was a >1987 Camaro spy pic of a late 90's model. :-) >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "R. Fenwick" >> pictures concerns me... '87 1 2. (January 2, 1987). Could these >pictures >> possibly be from when they were developing the current generation GW >(which >> was released in 1989 I believe?) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:26:12 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:27:30 -0700 To: "R. Fenwick" , Roger Ries , PC800 From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics I blew up the pictures and looked at the cars in the picture. The Minivan is the current Dodge Caravan style and the Colorado Highway Patrol Chevy Camaro cruiser is also current. In addition, the Saturn wagon is a current model. So the pictures are either doctored well or they are current. Perhaps the person who got the pictures does know how to change the date on the camera. I agree with you that the other Wing doesn't have the date stamp on the picture and can't comment on that ... but the other stuff looks ok ... I suspect these might be the first pics actually seen. At 01:01 PM 09/05/2000 -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: > >Hmmm... Very interesting. However, the date at the bottom on the three >pictures concerns me... '87 1 2. (January 2, 1987). Could these pictures >possibly be from when they were developing the current generation GW (which >was released in 1989 I believe?) > >Also, one thing that makes me wonder this even more, is that the last >picture on the second page (the current generation GW with the camera >mounted on the tank) does NOT have the same date stamp on the picture, >which would lead me to believe it was NOT taken at the same time as the >other three.... > >Note that the "camera" GW is no where to be seen in the other pictures. > >Just my thoughts... > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800 >http://pc_800.tripod.com >fenwick@nn.com >HRCA - HM725413 > > > >> Subject: New Honda Spy Pics > >> > >> http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm > >> http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > >> anywhere! > >> http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > >===== > >Later > >Roger R > >Chaska, MN > >'98 PC800W - Red Alert > >PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:38:59 -0500 "Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics" (Sep 5, 1:26pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Whether it's the new model or not, what a cow! MOOOOOOOOOOOO! Glad I'm not fat enough to need one yet. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800 Rider" , Cc: Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:49:37 -0400 Importance: Normal I'm on vacation the next two weeks and I was planning a run up through Vermont (Lake George is my old stomping ground. Someone want to plan something more elaborate? Russ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > PC800 Rider > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:36 AM > To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re(2): PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? > > > anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: > >>My fiancee and I are looking to get away for an overnight camping > >>trip on the PC this weekend and are considering the Lake George, NY > >>area. Can anyone recommend a good site? How about must-ride roads > >>in the area? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Nick > >>________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > > >Tim Davies! Now's your chance to organize that upstate New York Rally > >I dreamed you were doing! You could make my dreams come true!! > > > >Nick, > > > >Seriously, I rode recently on Route 8 through Speculator and Route 28 > >(I think) through Old Forge, and both were beautiful rides. I > >recommend either route highly. There is a stand in Speculator where > >you can get llama fat if it rains. > > > >Don't know about camping areas, sorry. > > > > > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor > >The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering > >205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue > >Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 > >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ > > > I'll have to pass on "organizing" one for this weekend (haven't > had my part of > the dream yet Betty Lise), but it would be great to visit with a > fellow Coaster > this weekend in the Adirondacks. This is the first day of school and I'm > already stir crazy... is it June yet? > > Also, everyone should remember the two Coaster's weekends Christoffer > Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen), aka captaintupperware@yahoo.com > is organizing > for the last two weekends in September. I and the Yankee Smuggler > will be at > the second one, Sept. 29-Oct.1. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "josef dorer" To: Subject: PC800: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:50:01 +0200 auth e161128f subscribe pc800 "josef dorer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:59:36 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: 1st ride To: I feel the same, the PC is indeed one of the nicest bikes on the road. The more I ride my PC, the more I like it. I wish I would have had one in 84 when I used to drive up and down the east coast on an '84 VT500 Ascot. I put over 14,000 on that bike in one year. I wonder what I would have done had I had a PC at my disposal. In a message dated Tue, 5 Sep 2000 1:52:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mickey Catron" writes: << Took my first "real" ride this weekend. Put on 450 miles over the holiday weekend. The trip was about 8 hours round trip. Its been quite a while since I took that type of trip, and although I was a little sore in the normal places, I must say that the PC was awesome and after doing the same type of trip with a HD sportster, I can tell you that I don't think anyone will convince me that there is a better bike out there. I love the PC. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all..." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.63) with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 12:07:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:06:22 +0200 > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm I noticed that the pics loaded very slowly for their size, apparently the page owner doesn't know how to make a thumbnail because he let the original high resolution picture be displayed in a smaller size which doesn't save any loading time. So for the big original 1600x1200 or so resolution pics go to these links (which load just as fast because it's the same pics only displayed 4 times larger): http://216.221.207.86/wade/Image1.jpg http://216.221.207.86/wade/Image2.jpg Emile www.piloot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:12:11 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Triumph Sprint Executive (Long) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:12:11 GMT I also seriously considered this bike. I decided that it was not a close to a tour bike. Any bike with a chain (that has to be oiled) every 300-500 miles is NOT a tour bike, no matter how many saddle bags they stick on it. Two yeara ago, even though I knew it had a chain, I went to look. I moved it around, and checked out the chain drive. I didn't need a test drive. Its cost and heft and features made me walk. Then I bought my PC. Triumph makes sport-bikes only. They're good bikes, they're fast, but they are not comfy for any length of time. >From: "jeff wessel" >To: >Subject: PC800: Triumph Sprint Executive (Long) >Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:47:54 -0500 > >To all, >I had a great day today. I decided to look into some options before >painting >my PC. You see my PC is a 90 model, and the paint is slightly faded, so I'm >thinking about painting it, or selling it and getting something different. >Today I rode about 250 miles and enjoyed them all. I went to a dealer that >has a 98 Executive in excellent condition. Corbin seat, throttlemeister, >factory bags etc (www.lakecycle.com) at a reasonable price. When I got >there, they were VERY busy, which was fine with me. I had a chance to look >around, get the blood back in my legs, and take a close look at the >Triumph. >I've read about it and the basic specs (97hp, 545lbs. luggage space, >fairing, etc) sound great. When I see it I'm somewhat surprised at the fit >and design, and I'm fairly sure that it won't be the next bike for me. Then >I talk to the salesman who convinces me to take it for a ride. I notice >that >they have nothing else that I would be interested in so I sign the forms, >put on my helmet while they have a mechanic warm it up and take a pre-ride >on it which is standard for them. I had seen them do the same for others >before my ride. I talked to the mechanic for a few moments, then I was off. >WOW!!!! This bike is fast!!!! They have a specific route for the test rider >that has city, county and multi-lane highway roads on it. The Triumph is >powerful always, but once you get it "on song" at about 4500 rpm and up, >hang on, it goes like #@*&%! It handled great and the brakes were very >powerful. Other than that I hated the bike. The engine is directly attached >to the frame and every move it makes is transmitted to the rider. The >suspension is also VERY harsh. There is virtually no wind protection. It >will go very fast, but the way it does it is so much like farm machinery or >trucks or race cars, I'm sorry but I don't have the words. I'm reminded of >a >ride I once took in a buddy's $400 datsun pickup which was about a 1970 >model that rattled, banged, and was so loud that a few minutes in it gave >you an all day headache. I returned the keys and told the salesman to call >me if he got a nice ST1100 or PC in, I'd come back to try those out. He >promised that he would and then I went to my PC. There were two couples >there looking at it. The one couple was waiting for my salesman, who put >them on a Valkerie. The mechanic, who gave the first couple the Valkerie, >asked what I thought about the Triumph. I told him and he smiled. I asked >him about the two ST1100s that I saw in the service area. He told me that >they belong to the owner and the lead mechanic, he rides a PC. The second >couple asked a million questions about the PC and I told them about it and >gave them a card with the list address on it. They were broken hearted when >I told them that Honda doesn't make them anymore. Then I headed home. The >ride home was so very sweet. I enjoyed every mile with my old bike >(Freebee). >Jeff > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:33:40 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Women rider's Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:33:40 GMT I understand completely. I'm a 5'6" male w/ a 29 inch inseam. I can't touch both my feet to the ground on my PC without being on "tippy toes". ;-) I've learned to deal with it.. to the point that I no longer think about it.. unless I have to. I've also had to learn how to lay the PC over to the crash guards with out marking them up (much). The only bike I could ever do this was a 1988 Kawasaki EL-250 (SORT of a cruiser). It was an OK bike for awhile. >From: "Ralph Couey" >To: , >Subject: Re: PC800: Women rider's >Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:10:35 -0500 > >You GO, Girl! > >My 5"1' wife shares your sentiments. Which is why she loves her Helix. > >Okay, she loves me, too. > >--Ralph >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:41 PM >Subject: PC800: Women rider's > > > > I can't stay quite any longer. You GUYS on the list need to hear from > > another WOMAN rider. There are more of us on this list than you can > > imagine. I will pay $$$ to get even 1 centimeter closer to the ground. > > I am flat footed on my bike, the left one only, while the right one is > > flopping in the breeze. I learned to stop with just one foot on the > > ground, not to be cool, but out of necessity. I have shaved enough foam > > off my seat to qualify for riding on the frame. My saddle from Corbin >is > > going to take 12 weeks, because they are specially making it for my > > petite and delicate frame. My PC has to last me a lifetime (thank >Godess > > it will) because my only other choice in motorcycles is a cruiser. I've > > had one, and the PC handles so much better. You feel cramped on a PC >due > > to your excessive height--get a Gold Wing. Now, flame me. > > > > Betty, I hope the soap box is big enough for two. > > > > Pamela Stomberg > > Omaha, NE > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:42:36 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "josef dorer" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:50:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:09:03 +0200 Josef, this is the list address, not the address for authorization. Go to www.ipcrc.org to subscribe, then you'll get a confirmation message to which you can reply directly. Good luck, Emile www.ipcrc.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "josef dorer" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:55 PM Subject: PC800: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:50:01 +0200 auth e161128f subscribe pc800 "josef dorer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACC61BC1023A; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 17:59:34 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: 2 brands of tires Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:50:41 -0400 Question: Is there a problem with running a Metzeler on the back and a Dunlop on the front???? I ordered a front/rear from MAW over a month ago. They have the rear but the front is backordered until 09-08-2000. That isn't too far off, but they have been moving the due date up a week for the last 2 weeks now. I have a big trip planned starting on 09-16. If the tire comes in as expected, it will be no problem... but if the due date moves up another week, I'll miss it. Anyone else had problems with ME880's being backordered. Usually MAW is great, but it concerns me that the due date cannot be predicted better. I even tried just to get a set of Dunlops, they had the front... but no rear! My bio-rythems must be out of whack this month :-) I have checked every other place in the country almost.... no one has the front 120/80-17. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Michael D. Linkous www.inetone.net/mlinkous -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@dima.dhs.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:39:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Pacific Coast Subject: Re: PC800: 2 brands of tires Not at all - I put rear ME880 few thousand miles back and my front one is still the Dunlop. Dimitri http://dima.dhs.org On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael D. Linkous wrote: > Question: > Is there a problem with running a Metzeler on the back and a Dunlop on the > front???? > > I ordered a front/rear from MAW over a month ago. They have the rear but > the front is backordered until 09-08-2000. That isn't too far off, but they > have been moving the due date up a week for the last 2 weeks now. > > I have a big trip planned starting on 09-16. If the tire comes in as > expected, it will be no problem... but if the due date moves up another > week, I'll miss it. > > Anyone else had problems with ME880's being backordered. Usually MAW is > great, but it concerns me that the due date cannot be predicted better. I > even tried just to get a set of Dunlops, they had the front... but no rear! > My bio-rythems must be out of whack this month :-) > > I have checked every other place in the country almost.... no one has the > front 120/80-17. > > ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ > Michael D. Linkous > www.inetone.net/mlinkous > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Ron Grant" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Ron Safe at Home.... Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:25:32 +0200 >From: "Ron Grant" >It was another great trip with a overload of >experiences in 14 countries and TOOO many souvenieirs! >Ron Grant
Now in BRISBANE! >28000 miles ....14 countries....so many stories! Welcome back Ron. I look forward to seeing your pics : ) I guess you won't be joining us for the Great PCPCY2K Tupperware Party ; ) ? Boy, I'm excited... Emile www.ipcrc.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Was - Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? To: PC800 Rider Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Also, everyone should remember the two Coaster's > weekends.. This would be my lead in… Thank you Tim. Come to Massachusetts, its not as cold, towns are closer together, and we really do have deciduous trees! I am going to do it twice – September 22nd and September 30th. Come for a day, a weekend – both weekends, heck… move to the Pioneer Valley…I did. Yes, please come up to The Great New England Fall Tour 2000. This is the 1st annual – so we are small. Rooms are going fast (due to leaf peeping season), please surf on over to my web pages http://swis.nmhschool.org/~ccarstanjen/pc800fall.htm read more and reserve a room at the NMH School soon. The tentative Scheduled route will take you to the very top of Massachusetts’s highest mountain Mt Greylock. An interlude at the Normal Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge – featuring 322 Saturday Evening Post covers. We will have lunch at an undisclosed place in the Berkshires and dinner at our little trendy city, Northampton Mass. Evening on your own or we will see what’s playing at our local theaters – both live and flat screens. I have run the route myself and “it’s too long” no really, we wouldn’t eat dinner ‘til 9:30 pm and 235 miles later. – Darren S. who owns “the Crib” and lives in the valley and I are going to run the Saturday route in reverse this Sunday and we know of a few ways to shave off time. We are going to revise The Red Lion Inn, for lunch. I went there to see about reservations – and yes they take them, but the place will be packed. We’d be looking at a two-hour lunch – too long. Them’s slim pickings in the center of Stockbridge, we will consider other places. Sunday route – I need to run it – it’s long – mostly a see off folks in all four directions. Since there aren't place/time restrictions, it'll be easy to adjust. Going West will be first – then North in VT then east to NH then south to pick-up more gear of the southerners – then east then further south – then west, then north…back for dinner, which may be at our local friendly brew-pub, which serves the best turkey-burgers and when the cask gets low – the best ginger soda (pop) ever made. (I’ve tried to make, no luck). Friday, check-in is when you can. If you golf, please tell me. I am planning on getting a quick 9 holes in after work starting at 4pm to 7pm at NMH schools’ golf course. I am going to organize a munchies party somewhere nearby. Anyone who wants to make this a longer vacation may do so. I’d be willing to help out for further info. The weekend of the 30th – The ever-helpful ambassador of PC800’s - Tim Davies and Yankee Smuggler will be there. Plus, you’ve seen the bike in JPEG’s, now see it in person, it’s John Quinn’s PC800 legal eagle bike. Join us for a color filled tour of the Berkshires and beyond. Questions? – Email is easiest. Want to know I am a real person? Call me 413 863-3165 thanks and don’t forget to RSVP. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics To: PC800 Hey, where did you get the pictures of my new Wing?!? You all thought I lived in Western Mass.... Is your VCR still blinking 12:00? - I'm not a rocket scientist (but play one on TV), but I think the camera that shot the pictures "blinks" 1/2/87 or thereabouts after installing new batteries... Anyone in Colorado wandering around in those clothes in the wintertime, and the lack of snow..pretty weird. it's current - it's the new Wing {'bout time!} America's lovefest with huge things is here to stay. (I'm not above it, but it's got to be practical and cheap too!) So much for two-car garages being the norm...start pulling the permit for a third bay.. cmc ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:40:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? To: russlb@technologist.com, PC800 Rider , anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Russ, Come on up! Darren and I are going to run the Saturday route on Sunday the 9th. I may test run the Sunday route on Saturday 8th. Come up/over anyway - I'm 120 miles southeast from Lake George where rte 2 and rte 91 meet in Mass. While you're up..see if John Quinn is free - you can stop by his place and check out his PC. Anyone, if you can't make the weekends - come and run the route with me/us on Saturday/Sunday. cmc --- "Rutherford L. Le Blang" wrote: > I'm on vacation the next two weeks and I was > planning a run up through > Vermont (Lake George is my old stomping ground. > > Someone want to plan something more elaborate? > > Russ > ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: PC800: 13 Step Oil Change To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 100 18:07:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: webmaster@ipcrc.org All, Here is the 13-step oil change document that I got from somewhere... I thought it was on the iPCRC web site, but I must be mistaken. Before you start: Waste oil container (get the 6 quart size and the screw-on clear filler hose) Oil filter wrench (available at Wal-Mart for $3) 1 Oil filter (Honda MM9) 4 Quarts oil (you will only need 3.4ish quarts: Honda GN4) 1 oil drain plug washer Socket wrench (3/8" drive, 17mm socket) Torque wrench Paper towels 13-Step Oil change on the PC: Step 1: Go for a 10-20 minute (or more) ride so that the oil is warmed up. Step 2: Put bike on center stand. Step 3: Remove oil dipstick access panel - right side. Step 4: Remove dipstick. Step 5: Position your waste oil container under the drain plug. Step 6: Remove oil drain plug and the old washer. Let it drain for 5-10 minutes. Step 7: Lower the side-stand. (This makes it easier to access the oil filter.) Step 8: Reposition your waste oil container and remove the oil filter. Be careful about hot exhaust components! Step 9: Re-install the oil drain plug with a fresh washer. Make sure it's tight, but don't strip/break the bolt - torque to 25 Ft-Lbs. Step 10: Put in your new oil filter, after smearing some fresh oil on the rubber gasket on the filter. Torque to 10 Ft-Lbs. Raise the side-stand. (The bike is still on the center stand!) Step 11: Add 3.4ish quarts of oil. Step 12: Run the engine briefly, then check oil level again. (Do not screw in the dipstick to check the oil level.) It should be between halfway and the top of the "hatch marks". If you need to add oil, do it slowly - it takes a little while for it to drip down to get an accurate reading. Step 13: Go for a ten-minute ride, then check to make sure there are no oil leaks or drips. Note that Pep Boys will recycle your used motor oil for free. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:04:00 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Roger Ries" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:15:07 -0500 Roger, That couldn't be the real thing, could it? Maybe they just released those pics to help to sell the current models. If I were in the market I'd sure be thinking about a 2000. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Ries To: PC800 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:19 PM Subject: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics > > --- Ken Cyr wrote: > > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) > > Reply-to: cyr_ken@yahoo.com > > From: Ken Cyr > > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > > > > Subject: New Honda Spy Pics > > > > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm > > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > > anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ===== > Later > Roger R > Chaska, MN > '98 PC800W - Red Alert > PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:08:17 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "R. Fenwick" , "Roger Ries" , "PC800" , "Jim Alexander" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:04:23 -0500 I saw another write-up on the new GW recently in which the rave was the headlight set-up The photo in that write up matches the one in these pictures exactly. This looks like an interesting marriage of ST1100, Old Wing, and BMW. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- . Perhaps the person who got the pictures does know how to change > the date on the camera. > > I agree with you that the other Wing doesn't have the date stamp on the > picture and can't comment on that ... but the other stuff looks ok ... I > suspect these might be the first pics actually seen. > > > > At 01:01 PM 09/05/2000 -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: > > > >Hmmm... Very interesting. Could these pictures > >possibly be from when they were developing the current generation GW (which > >was released in 1989 I believe?) > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 17:19:20 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: New Honda Spy Pics Emile Nossin wrote: > (which load just as > fast because it's the same pics only displayed 4 times larger): > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Image1.jpg > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Image2.jpg Thanks Emile! I have a question (or two). Why do you suppose there is a law enforcement officer at the scene, and why are all of those people lookin down the slope? Do you suppose they lost one of the prototypes? (Ouch!) The more I see it the more I like it, everything from the rider's seat forward. That is a HUGE butt! First thing I thought was "Ok, who left the (now bloated)Triumph Trophy soaking in water for so long?" -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Windshield height of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:03:33 CDT." <003601c016e5$e1a85080$e77343d8@h74678> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:15:53 -0500 "Mark Gilb" writes: > Looks like I'm now in the market for a new windshield for the PC. The Rifle > currently mounted is cracking after 4 seasons and 27K miles The cheapest route would be to purchase a replacement upper section for the Rifle. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:31:19 EDT." Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:14:02 -0500 Selden Deemer writes: > This is the best tale I've seen on this list in some time. About 12 > years ago, I traded in a 1981 Ford Escort wagon on a new car purchase. > As the Pythons would say, "Say no more." > > A year later the police called, saying that the car had been stolen, > and that I was the last recorded owner. Did I want the car back? > > "Hell, no," I said. "Getting rid of that beast was one of the happiest > days of my life." > > There was a pause on the other end of the line. Then I heard the > detective say, "Damn, this always happens to me." Its always important when selling a vehicle and giving the buyer a signed bill of sale, that the seller have a copy of the same. Best if both parties sign both copies. This way from that point forward you have proof that you are no longer liable for that vehicle. The new "owner" may get in trouble with the vehicle and deny having purchased it, but having "borrowed" it. No telling what some slime will do. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Alex Vrenios cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Torque on oil filter? of "Tue, 05 Sep 0100 03:21:52 PDT." <200009051021.DAA24416@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:06:08 -0500 Alex Vrenios writes: > > I bought the bar-type torque wrench from Sears, and the > plastic cap oil filter wrench from Wal Mart, like a lot > of people were discussing here a few months back. I can > not seem to get the torque wrench into the filter wrench > (yes, they're both 3/8") once the filter is screwed in > hand tight. I finally gave up and just went a bit better > than snug with the ratchet handle. (I just did 25 ft-lb > on the drain plug, so the 10 ft-lb requirement wasn't so > hard a guess.) I was wondering if anyone else had this > same experience. Thanks. The standard rule of thumb is the filter goes on finger tight (that's when the gasket touches), then 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn. Another good rule of thumb is not to put an oil filter on tighter than you can by hand with no tools. However having changed my PC800's oil on Saturday I currently remember something that I only seem to remember when changing the oil. That is the PC oil filter hits metal when being tightened before I'd otherwise think it was properly tight. Stop tightening when it hits metal. Using genuine Honda filters. All I've used have been from the same batch so it might be unique to that day's production run. Its not hard to get the filter on tight enough. What is hard is getting a filter off that was put on too tight. The long and the short of it is that you have to put one on too tight sometime in order to learn what not to do. If its on too tight your oil filter socket won't bite hard enough to remove it. A large pair of pliers works. Crush the filter first to get a good bite. The other way to deal with it is to drive a screwdriver all the way thru the filter and use that to leverage it loose. If I can get two hands around an oil filter then I put it on as tight as I can with one bare (clean) hand. Then expect to be able to get it off next time with two hands. No wrench. No socket. Altho I usually wear leather work gloves as the filter is too hot to hold. Oh, and the other thing. Lets start the oil thread again! Had some old Havoline System 3 pre-SJ oil on the shelf that I thought to put to use this summer. So 3.5 quarts went in the PC. Shortly thereafter I didn't really like the way it shifted. But left it in for about 3,000 miles where gas mileage climbed from 47 to 50 to a consistent 50 to 54. Not terribly unexpected of 10W40 vs. 15W50. Saturday I put 3.5 quarts of that terrible awful SJ rated automotive Mobil 1 15W50. Had forgotten that for a few minutes today on the ride to work and marveled at what a wonderful morning it was and how the PC sure was purring. PC shifts much better. Will probably be another 5 years before I try such a fool stunt (non-Mobil-1) again. Am only regretting the other day when I found 5-quart jugs of Mobil-1 at Walmart for $15 that I didn't buy any 15W50. Walmart is spotty about stocking the 5 quart jugs. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:25:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: 13 Step Oil Change To: vrenios@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Congrats, "Shade Tree Alex"! I haven't done mine yet. Still on prepaid maint. However, don't forget step 9! I have done that on my car in the past. Very messy and very embarrasing!!!! Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:27:59 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Mark Gilb" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Learning to ride Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:24:00 -0500 Way to go, "Dad!" Ste. Genevieve still looks like a "go." Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:30 PM Subject: PC800: Learning to ride > As some of you know, I am currently teaching my 15 1/2 year old daughter to > drive. This has been very educational (can you say Prozac?). > > As we were sitting in his garage having a post-ride beer, his wife came out > and asked how it had gone, as she was clearly worried. Ron's answer made my > entire year; "No problem. I went with Mark, he's the best rider I know." To > each of you on the list who has shared your knowledge and love of > motorcycling, I owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You have made me a better, > smarter rider than I could have made myself. Hope everyone had as fine a > Labor Day as I had. Thanks again. > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:30:36 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Shocks Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:26:36 -0500 Thanks, Selden. Actually, grunge in my garage is not a problem. You should see the boyfriends my daughters bring home. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Selden Deemer" Subject: PC800: Re: Shocks > ...and could probably be done > in an hour, although 2 hours is more realistic if one factors cleaning > up the grunge that collects around the rear end. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:35:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ride The Aufderheide... Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 18:35:03 PDT Last week an idea was being kicked around by some of the NW contingent of this list--seeing if there would be any interest in meeting at Oakridge, OR, which is up in the Cascades about 35 miles east of Springfield. After the gather the ride of choice would be along the Aufderheide Scenic Highway to the Cougar Reservoir. I wasn't sure if I could make it but thought I'd throw my helmet in the ring as a "possible". As the weekend drew nearer, Nan made it clear that she didn't want to take any rides due to other obligations. Hmmm, methinks, maybe this ride to the Reservoir is looking better! I kept a wary eye on the weather on Saturday. Saturday was a soaker--lots of thunderstorms rumbling through the area--and there was talk by the weather prognosticators about snow in the Cascades. Sunday dawned---foggy and cold. Wake-up temperature was 43 degrees. So I leapt--well, crawled--from bed and fired up the computer. Nope! No e-mails bespeaking of postponements or cancellations. How's the weather look down in the Valley? Better than ours. Sounds like a ride to me! I fired up the ST (PC's still in the shop) and hit the road about 9:30AM. The fog had turned to rain, but had cleared somewhat when I pulled out. It's about 135 miles to Oakridge from Newberg, and the gang was planning on meeting at a Mexican restaurant between 11:30 and noon for lunch before the ride. Even with traffic, I should be within that time frame easily. Ride down was uneventful--I've been on the Interbore between home and Springfield so many times that I just put the bike on autopilot. I was amazed to see, however, a funnel cloud forming under a dark mass of nastiness rumbling just west of Eugene. I stopped for gas at a station where a Highway Patrol officer was ticketing a cager--he indicated that he hadn't heard any reports of touchdown--so it wasn't officially a tornado. Very unusual for this part of the world, though. Especiallly since it was still pretty cold. Hwy 58 thru the Cascades is always gorgeous; even though it was the third time I'd been on it in a month I still enjoyed the scenery. I was in no hurry so I didn't play any games...besides, it was Labor Day Weekend and there were a lot of LEO's on the road. I got to Oakridge by 11:45AM; a great lunch was ordered and maps were perused until 12:30PM. The Scenic Highway threads its way north from Hwy 58 on 65 miles of deliciously curvy blacktop along the north branch of the Willamette River. Despite the fact that it was a holiday weekend, there was absolutely no one on the road. Rain clouds started playing hide and seek with the mountaintops, and the resultant sporadic showers conspired with the pine needles on the curves to keep the speeds down to a sane level. Which was just as good, because the views were worth slowing down for anyway. I did have an Encounter of the Bird Kind about halfway through the ride when I came around a curve and espied two golden eagles feasting on road pizza. I slowed down to a crawl and crept past them on the other side of the road, but my appearance startled them and they took off--right towards me! Do you know just how big two full grown golden eagles are? I do. When I braked to miss the one that had flown across my path his lunch partner flew right into my right leg! He only suffered the loss of a few feathers and a lot of dignity, however, as he spiraled safely up into the sky afterward. The Scenic Hwy meets up with Hwy 126 at Cougar Reservoir, so I peeled off and headed east far enough to catch Hwy 20, which I took west back thru Lebanon and Sweet Home to Albany. At that juncture I caught Interbore 5 north and back to home. All in all, considering the weather (I had my long johns on all day), the ride was great! 350 miles of great roads and gorgeous scenery. I never get tired of riding the Cascades. Oh, you say, how did everyone else fare? Did you see me mentioning any other riders? Huh? How the heck do I know? BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE SHOWED UP!!! When I got home Nan had me go up and pull the e-mails because she refused to believe that everyone was a no-show. She figured I probably picked the wrong day--or the wrong town--or the wrong something. I don't know where she gets that idea from. Hey, just because I rode up to Everett, WA, in July and stayed overnight to ride on Saturday with the HSTA gang--only to find that I was a week early...anyone can make a mistake like that! And it couldn't have been the fact that I sent our $40 in for my Class Reunion in South Milwaukee in August...only to find that it had been held the week before we rode back there! Hey--little things like dates can get away from ya--I've been busy! So, gang, time to chime back in and tell me where you met and when you ate and where you rode...because it certainly wasn't Oakridge at noon on the 3rd with a ride to the Reservoir! You'll have to excuse me now...Nan says its time to take my Thorazine and a little nap... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (12K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "Being President is like running a cemetery. You've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening." - President Clinton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:46:26 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: vrenios@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Torque on oil filter? Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 01:46:26 GMT Hi Alex, >First oil change...not seem to get the torque wrench into the filter wrench >(yes, they're both 3/8") once the filter is screwed in hand tight... Hand tightening is just fine for oil filters, you can try tighten a bolt on 10 lb/ft, then loose it with a 1/4" rachet and feel the force required, not much and is very close to hand tighten a new filter with clean hands. And for drain plug, you should add 2-3 lb/ft if you keep the old washer. Hope these help! - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Long Service Medal - 2000 GWRRA # 101177, Gold Winger & Pacific Coaster 84 GL1200Asp beige, 95 GL1500SE candy spectra red 90 PC800 candy glory red, 94 CBX750 Police Edition, 77 CB550FOUR The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 21 Chinese Water Dragons _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:58:47 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/5/00 2:27:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jamesalexander@compuserve.com writes: << I blew up the pictures and looked at the cars in the picture. The Minivan is the current Dodge Caravan style and the Colorado Highway Patrol Chevy Camaro cruiser is also current. In addition, the Saturn wagon is a current model. So the pictures are either doctored well or they are current. Perhaps the person who got the pictures does know how to change the date on the camera. >> Ok, somebody's gotta a little too much time on their hands...... Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Alex Vrenios cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: 13 Step Oil Change of "Tue, 05 Sep 0100 18:07:31 PDT." <200009060107.SAA26967@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 21:09:22 -0500 From: David Kelly Alex Vrenios writes: > All, > > Here is the 13-step oil change document that I got from somewhere... > I thought it was on the iPCRC web site, but I must be mistaken. [...] > Paper towels Newspaper works as good or better. > 13-Step Oil change on the PC: > > Step 1: Go for a 10-20 minute (or more) ride so that the oil is warmed up. > Step 2: Put bike on center stand. > Step 3: Remove oil dipstick access panel - right side. > Step 4: Remove dipstick. > Step 5: Position your waste oil container under the drain plug. > Step 6: Remove oil drain plug and the old washer. Let it drain for 5-10 minut es. No need to wait. Remove the oil filter any time you can get something under to catch the drips. I use a 10 quart special conatiner which contains a "drain pan" moulded in the top. Covers the entire underside of the PC very easily. > Step 7: Lower the side-stand. (This makes it easier to access the oil filter.) > Step 8: Reposition your waste oil container and remove the oil filter. Be car eful about hot exhaust components! > Step 9: Re-install the oil drain plug with a fresh washer. Make sure it's tig ht, but don't strip/break the bolt - torque to 25 Ft-Lbs. > Step 10: Put in your new oil filter, after smearing some fresh oil on the rub ber gasket on the filter. Torque to 10 Ft-Lbs. Raise the side-stand. (The bike is still on the center stand!) Wait a second. Both 9 and 10 forgot to check and clean the surfaces where the drain plug and filter meet the PC. There is a $2 thingy at Walmart that screws onto the oil bottle, has a clear plastic hose, and makes dumping oil in the little PC dipstick hole almost easy and fun. The thingy looks just like the same thing they sell for gas cans but is black and yellow while the gas model is black and red. And each has different threads. Between oil changes I leave my black and yellow thingy on either an empty oil bottle, or the remaining 1/2 quart. By leaving it on a bottle I keep the inside of the thingy clean. It has its own plug for the open end of the clear tube. > Note that Pep Boys will recycle your used motor oil for free. That's so nice of them! Believe it is federal law that if you sell motor oil you have to provide collection for the drained oil. Think Walmart places a surcharge on oil purchase for exactly this excuse. Then again they only have to accept returns from their customers. Sad but true, I can usually dispose of used motor oil and brake fluid by sitting it out on the curb on Recycling Day. Somebody will come by in a "beater" and "steal" my used motor oil. Especially if its in a pretty Mobil-1 jug. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: 13 Step Oil Change Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:45:22 -0500 The last line of David's post reminded me of an incident at my father's house years ago. This is non-PC related so delete now if you aren't interested. My brother and I gave mom & dad a new dishwasher for some occasion and went over to do the install. Found out that the local trash company wanted $25 to haul away the old appliance. My brother had a better idea. That night, we wheeled the old, broken dishwasher to the curb and put a for sale sign on it, with a price of $50. By morning, it had been "stolen", sign and all. Is this a great country or what? Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX David Kelly wrote ...... (huge snip) ..... > Sad but true, I can usually dispose of used motor oil and brake fluid > by sitting it out on the curb on Recycling Day. Somebody will come by > in a "beater" and "steal" my used motor oil. Especially if its in a > pretty Mobil-1 jug. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Glassrhino@aol.com for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:16:01 EDT Subject: PC800: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu hey guys, sorry i haven't been on lately, but as you know, i am a Mechanical Engineering student in my final year. Study takes a lot of time, and thus i dont get to respond as i would like to. However, Betty had asked about ways to reduce the ride height, or the "required inseam length" of the PC 800. I have copied the letter here. This is a short reply, but if you would like something more detailed, Email me and i will do what i can. There are a couple of ways to reduce the "required inseam" length on the PC. First, you can modify your current seat. This would entail removing the Vinyl/Leather cover, reshaping the foam by trimming about an inch off the foam layer, and restretching the cover back over it. However, I believe that you already have a Corbin seat for the PC. Of course, you wouldnt want to modify such a nice custom piece. The second, and more costly option, is to actually get into the suspension and modify it to suit your preferences. This is done by changing the front springs(which are in the forks) and changing the rear coil over shock assemblies. "Progressive Suspension" is a company which makes replacement suspension parts for various motocycles. You would buy the spring/shock sets from them and either change them yourself or have a mechanic do it. Either way, changing them is a relatively simple task. I have seen several bikes done like this, and the typical drop is about an inch. The price you pay, mechanically speaking, is a rougher ride. Because the suspension must soak up the same bumps with less effective travel, the spring rate must be higher, and thus a stiffer suspension. I am not absolutely certain that "P.S" makes a set for the PC, but I DO know that they will make a custom system for you, or modify an existing one to fit. To my mind this would be the best option to take. PS would have already worked out any bugs and ensure that the finished product is satisfactory. When you have the parts, the Honda mechanic can do this for you in about a day. This should be enough to get you started. If you find out that there is not an option like this, then E mail me, and we'll see if there are some adjustments/modifications that can be made to your bike. Sometimes this means moving a shock mounting point rearwards about and inch. I have done this on a couple of harleys for ladies, and they usually like it much better. Alexander Glassrhino@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:20:36 EDT Subject: PC800: Logo Idea To: E.M.Nossin@quicknet.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu What would represent us? An Idea: Picture an oversize computer monitor with a Three-quarter view of a PC rapidly accelerating out of the monitor. Kinda like you are looking up at it. Fit the rider in full protective gear. Custom Paint on the PC maybe? Red, Black, and White (any order). Kinda like some of the cars I saw in the 70's: three vertical strips of color that sorta blend from one to the other. I think that type of scheme would tend to represent all colors and years. "Desktop" could depict a twisty mountain road, since I think we all like that sort of thing. iPCRC letters in some nice print style and maybe in smaller letters have it spelled out. Or not. Maybe the iPCRC web-site. Whatever looks good. Something that would lend itself easily to a decal or patch, if we so decide. Just an idea. Any others out there? Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" San Antonio PS I am no artist, I'll leave that to someone else. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:25:09 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics From: Daryl Tschoepe To: PC800 Hmmm, My wife already has an Integra, and it doesn't even need a kickstand... My bet is it's closer to 900 lbs (408 kilos for the metric crowd) than 800. Any takers? Sigh, looks like I'll be painting the 'Coastie after all... Later, Daryl It's possible that on 9/5/00 8:15 PM, jeff wessel at jwessel@beanstalk.net hurled this into the void... > > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > > > > Subject: New Honda Spy Pics > > > > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_1.htm > > http://216.221.207.86/wade/Wade_Bond_Page_2.htm > > --Snip-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield height Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:58:30 -0500 Once again, the list members came through. Thanks to everyone who sent measurements. The consensus is that the Clearview +3 is about 23.5" tall from the top of the vent to the top of the screen. Although I know that the two shields have different contours and angles of attack, my plan is to place a strip of masking tape with the top edge 23.5" above the vent and take a short ride to see if I can comfortably look over the tape. I thought about replacing the existing Rifle screen but I like the Clearview looks better and I believe that it is a little stiffer. It just wasn't an option 4 years ago. Thanks again. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@dima.dhs.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:35:06 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clearview windshield Where can I buy one? TIA Dimitri http://dima.dhs.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Michael D. Linkous" , "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: 2 brands of tires Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:24:06 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Michael D. Linkous To: Pacific Coast Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: PC800: 2 brands of tires > Question: > Is there a problem with running a Metzeler on the back and a Dunlop on the > front???? I do hope not, I have a dunlop arriving today. > I ordered a front/rear from MAW over a month ago. They have the rear but > the front is backordered until 09-08-2000. That isn't too far off, but they > have been moving the due date up a week for the last 2 weeks now. > snip > > Anyone else had problems with ME880's being backordered. Usually MAW is > great, but it concerns me that the due date cannot be predicted better. I > even tried just to get a set of Dunlops, they had the front... but no rear! ME880 are IMPOSSIBLE to get in the UK. Metzler say that they have not sheduled a production run yet. > > I have checked every other place in the country almost.... no one has the > front 120/80-17. Same here. Thats why I have ordered a Dunflop. (sic) I had 3 choices. 1. Keep the worn out metzler and probably crash, 2. Buy a dunlop and probably crash. 3. Dont ride. I chose #2 because probably doenst mean definitely. Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic Milton Keynes '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:09:51 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview windshield To: , There are several ways to buy one. You can buy one directly http://www.clearviewshields.com/. Buy one through Sport Touring Accessories or possibly through a local dealership. I currently have one on order and per my understanding they won't be doing another run for the PC800 shields untill 9/13 with an expected delivery date of 9/20. FWIW Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" '89 PC800 "Lucky" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:26:39 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly >Its always important when selling a vehicle and giving the buyer a >signed bill of sale, that the seller have a copy of the same. Best if >both parties sign both copies. This way from that point forward you have >proof that you are no longer liable for that vehicle. The new "owner" >may get in trouble with the vehicle and deny having purchased it, but >having "borrowed" it. No telling what some slime will do. Agreed. And be sure you know your state's laws on license tags. Here in Virginia it's your vehicle if it still has your tags on it - signed bill of sale, signed title, etc. mean nothing as far as the law is concerned. (Dumb law, but that's another story). So at least around here, NEVER let a sold vehicle go with your license tags. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:30:46 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "PC800 List" , "Mark Gilb" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: 13 Step Oil Change Ha ha ha ha ... HA HA HA HA HA ... ha ha ... oh, my sides hurt ... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:45:22 -0500 >The last line of David's post reminded me of an incident at my father's >house years ago. This is non-PC related so delete now if you aren't >interested. > >My brother and I gave mom & dad a new dishwasher for some occasion and went >over to do the install. Found out that the local trash company wanted $25 to >haul away the old appliance. My brother had a better idea. That night, we >wheeled the old, broken dishwasher to the curb and put a for sale sign on >it, with a price of $50. By morning, it had been "stolen", sign and all. Is >this a great country or what? > >Mark Gilb >Arnold, Mo. >95 PC800 FAUX > >David Kelly wrote ...... (huge snip) ..... >> Sad but true, I can usually dispose of used motor oil and brake fluid >> by sitting it out on the curb on Recycling Day. Somebody will come by >> in a "beater" and "steal" my used motor oil. Especially if its in a >> pretty Mobil-1 jug. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:33:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 Glassrhino@aol.com writes: > The second, and more costly option, is to actually get into the > suspension and modify it to suit your preferences. This is done by > changing the front springs (which are in the forks) and changing the > rear coil over shock assemblies. The front end can be lowered approximately 1" at no cost by raising the fork tubes in the triple clamps (no more than 3/4" or the tops will rub against the plastic covers that surround the steering stem) and by fitting a lower profile 120/70 front tire, instead of the stock 120/80 size. These changes have no effect on ride harshness, but will quicken the steering slightly. Fit a radial front tire to quicken the steering still further. I have not encountered any cornering clearance problems from these changes. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:50:21 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Vehicle ownership > Agreed. And be sure you know your state's laws on license tags. Here in Virginia it's your vehicle if it still has your tags on it - signed bill of sale, signed title, etc. mean nothing as far as the law is concerned. (Dumb law, but that's another story). So at least around here, NEVER let a sold vehicle go with your license tags. cerpt from Chris Norloff On the other end of the scale, Texas has recently revamped it's requirements for a vehicle sale. Now, all the owner needs to do is sign the back of the title and hand it to the purchaser. Everything else is up to the purchaser. No notary, no trip to the courthouse, nada. The plates stay on the vehicle. When I sold the Suzuki SV650, the buyer was from Virginia. He arrived for the "deal" with a rented trailer. He was shocked when I told him he could ride it home. Back a few years ago in another job, we had a utility truck that finally got too decrepit even for us. The owner used it as a trade it on a new van for his wife. I think he got $400 credit for it. Six or nine months later we got a letter that the truck had been abandoned in West Texas, and would be sold at auction unless we did something in 30 days. Another couple of months, and a check for $500 arrived, the balance left over after towing and storage charges. They must really like early '70's Chrysler pickups in West Texas. The truck had changed hands several times, from dealer to wholesaler to auctioneer to buyer, but none of the new owners had taken the trouble to do the paperwork. The dealers just pass titles around like monopoly cards apparently. According to the State of Texas, it was still the company's truck. According to the nice woman at the County Tax Assessors office, liability for the vehicle ends as soon as you sign the back of the title. At least theoretically. I wonder what would have happened if instead of just dying by the side of the road, the truck had been at fault in a serious accident? But there's even scarier things on the road; Now, in Texas, a teenager can get a license without EVER HAVING PASSED A DRIVING TEST! Our legislature decided that a parent can sign a form declaring that the teenager can drive, and Poof! DPS has to grant a license! Doesn't that make you feel safer? Revill Not riding Whirby because it was 112 degrees officially yesterday. (Wimpout) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: Subject: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:38:10 -0700 Hi Pacific Coasters-- In view of complications present until departure for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, = I am unsubscribing as of Thursday morning. I am using this 11th hour opportunity to explain why I am going on this = ride. =20 I am not going to meet F2F those I have communicated with for a year. I am not going to see more motorcycles. I am not going to ride scenic roads. I am going because I really really like those itty bitty bars of motel = soap. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Strode" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Vehicle ownership Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:44:33 -0700 Here in Oregon the tag stays with the car. You sign the title give it to the new owner, who has to apply for a new title in 30 days. On the back of the registration form is a place where you sign and give the date of the sale and mail it to the DMV. It is no longer considered yours. Only problem, and this happened to me, is if the person doesn't get a new title then states such as CA (here is where I do the raspberry thing) still consider it yours. And when ever the new owner gets a parking ticket they try and collect it from you. The guy I sold my car to racked up $1038.00 in parking tickets. Spent three months trying to prove to CA I didn't own the car. They don't recognize OR procedures for selling a car. Finally sent my 4 inch deep pile of paper work to Senator DeFazio, who wrote the Gov of CA and got the mess straightened out. Of course the CA DMV Director had to have the last shot. In a copy of the letter I got that was sent to Senator DeFazio he stated I had been uncooperative in trying to resolve the matter. I guess that means that I didn't send them any money. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:03:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting To: Great Ned , pc800@hpc.uh.edu --- Great Ned wrote: > I am going because I really really like those itty > bitty bars of motel soap. > And here I like the little packets of shampoo. I'll save the soap if you save the shampoo and we can swap at the end of the ride. Deal? ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Roger Ries" , Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:51:27 -0700 > And here I like the little packets of shampoo. > > I'll save the soap if you save the shampoo and we can > swap at the end of the ride. > > Deal? > > ===== > Later > Roger R Roger, you can have all the shampoo. I need so little. And let me say (non PC rant): These guys who sally off to the tonsorial parlor and plot down $12 and get ALL their hair shaved off, that's a slap in the face clear through the forehead to those of us who have endured, in some cases decades, the jeers and taunts of "Cueball" and "Chromedome" and put up with the jokes about "solar collector for a sex machine." We have earned our baldness and are proud of it. Imagine how you would feel, PC owner (non-PC warning light is off), if someone went out and bought a Youknow Whatidson Sportster and covered it in Tupperware! Well, that's how we feel. Fine, thank you very much. Anyone else need shampoo? Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Chromeo" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Garbacik To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Forked! But can't leave town. Hi all! Finally, the long saga of fork seal replacement is over. As you may recall, quite some time ago my left fork seal went leak, leak, leak, gush, clank (expensive metal sounds). I took both forks off, tried to find time to do the seals myself, gave up and took them to the local dealer. Two weeks later I had the forks back and on the bike. The right fork went leak, gush, clank. Fork off and back to dealer. Two weeks later, fork back and on bike. Fork went gush, clank. Fork off and back to dealer - talked *nicely* to owner of dealership. One week later the fork was again ready and I installed it on Monday. So far, so good. No leaks, no clanks, no gushing of fork oil. Moral- if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I won't, however, be able to join the righteous and fervant believers in the Pacific Coast Highway experience. It is too close to the end of our fiscal year and my boss has decided that I will be here a minimum of 65 hours a week until September 29 (on the 30th I leave for a week back east for training - boy are they optimistic!). So . . . . Please have a good time, ride safely, and think of the brethern (and sistern) that cannot be with you in person (on plastic?) but are there with you in spirit. Pictures and reports from the assemblage would be nice. *hint* Tom '89 Moonbeam (forked again) Corvallis, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:46:01 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Ride the Aufderheide To: timbmacy@hotmail.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Tim.... Lee Barker was the originator of the "Ride the Aufderheide" idea. Lee and I sent several notes back and forth, and he'd mentioned that he'd invited several others, and mentioned both you and Tom Garbicik in Corvallis (he of the forkless PC). I then sent the invite along to you and Tom as well. Tom emailed back and begged off, seeing as how he still finds it difficult to ride with only half a front fork. I'd not heard anything back from you, so assumed you were still recuperating from your earlier trip, or had a list of "honey-do's" from here to Portland. Anyway, after getting drenched at the U of Oregon football game on Saturday afternoon, I plugged into the weather channel Saturday evening, and it didn't look promising at all. Since it appeared that Lee & I were the only two up for the ride, I gave him a quick call and told him I was going to beg off on the ride, and just wait for the Y2K ride this coming weekend. Then, lo and behold, upon my return from church (and school supply shopping) early Sunday afternoon, there is your phone message on my answering machine! Boy, did I feel dumb. Then, I couldn't find a phone number for you, and realized that you were probably on the road by then anyway. Guess I should have called anyway, to at least give you an alibi with Nan! Sounds like we missed a great ride! I still hope to get a chance to run it before winter. Now that you've let the news out about the eagle encounter, I imagine Ralph will want to compare sizes with his turkey buzzards! Actually, it showered most of Sunday early afternoon in Springfield, so I still thought I'd made the right decision. However, it sounds like you stayed relatively dry up at the higher elevations, lucky man! Sheesh ..... now I really wish I'd have bitten the bullet and gone on up. The only saving grace is the Y2K ride coming up. Rick Corwine should be showing up on my doorstep Thursday night, and the oil is changed and all fluids checked, so I'm ready to rock-n-roll towards Eureka. I've got some last minute "strap-building" to do for the bag which will reside on my passenger seat, but otherwise it's all systems go. Sorry for leaving you on your own over the Aufderheide. Really, I didn't know you were going to be there. I'll cover for you with Nan if you need a good alibi! Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics To: Dsinofsky@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Sep 100 09:05:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Let's say I'm the lead "new GW" guy and I want to make some test runs with a chase crew, a huge film camera bike, etc. Do I paint my top secret test bike yellow? -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: PC800: Re: 13 Step Oil Change To: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 100 09:11:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In an earlier email to me David Kelly said: > > Alex Vrenios writes: > > All, > > > > Here is the 13-step oil change document that I got from somewhere... > > I thought it was on the iPCRC web site, but I must be mistaken. > [...] > > Paper towels > > Newspaper works as good or better. > Not on my hands it doesn't. > > 13-Step Oil change on the PC: > > > > Step 1: Go for a 10-20 minute (or more) ride so that the oil is warmed up. > > Step 2: Put bike on center stand. > > Step 3: Remove oil dipstick access panel - right side. > > Step 4: Remove dipstick. > > Step 5: Position your waste oil container under the drain plug. > > Step 6: Remove oil drain plug and the old washer. Let it drain for 5-10 minut > es. > > No need to wait. Remove the oil filter any time you can get something > under to catch the drips. I use a 10 quart special conatiner which > contains a "drain pan" moulded in the top. Covers the entire underside > of the PC very easily. > The 6 Qt version of that container is a better choice. > > Step 7: Lower the side-stand. (This makes it easier to access the oil filter.) > > Step 8: Reposition your waste oil container and remove the oil filter. Be car > eful about hot exhaust components! > > Step 9: Re-install the oil drain plug with a fresh washer. Make sure it's tig > ht, but don't strip/break the bolt - torque to 25 Ft-Lbs. > > Step 10: Put in your new oil filter, after smearing some fresh oil on the rub > ber gasket on the filter. Torque to 10 Ft-Lbs. Raise the side-stand. (The bike > is still on the center stand!) > > Wait a second. Both 9 and 10 forgot to check and clean the surfaces > where the drain plug and filter meet the PC. > > There is a $2 thingy at Walmart that screws onto the oil bottle, has a > clear plastic hose, and makes dumping oil in the little PC dipstick hole > almost easy and fun. The thingy looks just like the same thing they sell > for gas cans but is black and yellow while the gas model is black and > red. And each has different threads. > > Between oil changes I leave my black and yellow thingy on either an > empty oil bottle, or the remaining 1/2 quart. By leaving it on a bottle > I keep the inside of the thingy clean. It has its own plug for the open > end of the clear tube. > > > Note that Pep Boys will recycle your used motor oil for free. > > That's so nice of them! Believe it is federal law that if you sell motor > oil you have to provide collection for the drained oil. Think Walmart > places a surcharge on oil purchase for exactly this excuse. Then again > they only have to accept returns from their customers. > I don't believe the federal law says they have to take it for free! Next time you get a commercial oil change, or a new battery or tires, take a close look at the bottom of your bill. > Sad but true, I can usually dispose of used motor oil and brake fluid > by sitting it out on the curb on Recycling Day. Somebody will come by > in a "beater" and "steal" my used motor oil. Especially if its in a > pretty Mobil-1 jug. > That reminds me of the guy who gift wrapped his garbage and left it in the back seat of his open convertable on a New York street. It does work, but the crook is likely to toss it in the trash and that's what we don't want to happen. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:05:36 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:12:03 -0500 Hi everyone! I was riding to town to "Do my civic duty today!" Yes, I had to show up = and waste a morning not to be picked for jury duty. I never get picked = anyway! Wife's a legal secretary and some of our best friends are = attorneys and law enforcement officers. Anyway...where was I? Oh yes, riding to town... Marlisa and I currently have HJC full-faced helmets (FG-9's) and they = are falling apart. We would like to get new ones, and I am looking for = feedback. I tried several helmets when we bought these. I went with = the one that I found to be the most comfortable, and the HJC fit and = felt the best. I wound up having to buy an X-Large size! I didn't know = my head was that big! (...well on occasion, when I get a good idea or = something like that!) We use an HJC ChatterBox intercom system (the = little one that mounts on the side of the driver's hat and interconnects = with the passenger via stereo mini plug), and that is a NECESSARY = requirement for the new ones too. We really liked a brand we saw = recently (someone help me here) that had a front that flipped open for = ease of taking on and off, but there wasn't any way to add the intercom = speakers and mics to that kind of helmet --without having wire routing = problems for the microphone. =20 Any suggestions? What are all of you wearing? Are you using an = intercom or speakers in your hats? We don't want to spend $500 each on = helmets, so the 'exotic brands' don't interest us in the least. Thanks for the feedback! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net 12 1/2 DAYS UNTIL WE "RUN FOR THE CHEESE" in Monroe, WI! Want to join us?? Contact me TODAY!! (or tomorrow...) attorneys and law enforcement officers.
 
Anyway...where was I?  Oh yes, riding to town...
 
Marlisa and I currently have HJC full-faced helmets = (FG-9's) and=20 they are falling apart.  We would like to get new ones, and I am = looking=20 for feedback.  I tried several helmets when we bought these.  = I went=20 with the one that I found to be the  most comfortable,=20  and the HJC fit and felt the best.  I wound up = having to=20 buy an X-Large size!  I didn't know my head was that big!  = (...well on=20 occasion, when I get a good idea or something like that!)   We = use an=20 HJC ChatterBox intercom system (the little one that mounts on the side = of the=20 driver's hat and interconnects with the passenger via stereo mini = plug),=20 and that is a NECESSARY requirement for the new ones too. We really = liked a=20 brand we saw recently (someone help me here)  that had a = front=20 that flipped open for ease of taking on and off, but there = wasn't any=20 way to add the intercom speakers and mics to that kind of helmet = --without=20 having wire routing problems for the microphone.  =   
 
Any suggestions?  What are all of you wearing?  Are you = using an=20 intercom or speakers in your hats?  We don't want to spend $500 = each on=20 helmets, so the 'exotic brands' don't interest us in the least.
 
Thanks for the feedback!
 
"May the COAST be with you!"
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 Pacific=20 Coast
"STORMTROOPER"
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
 
12 1/2 DAYS UNTIL WE "RUN FOR THE CHEESE" in = Monroe,=20 WI!
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "SL Swenson" , Subject: Re: PC800: Voltage Regulator Wanted Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:25:25 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: SL Swenson To: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:43 AM Subject: PC800: Voltage Regulator Wanted > Hi, > > I need to purchase a voltage regulator for my '89 PC800. > > Anyone have a working one they wish to sell? (reply directly please) > > (I replaced the stator, which was bad, but the bike's still not charging.) > > Also, I have an ignition box (igniter?) if anyone needs one of those. > > Please reply off list - I'm not currently a subscriber! > > Thanks mucho, > > scottswenson@email.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Sent: 06 September 2000 09:54 Subject: REGS /RECTS > Hi, > I am sure that you used to do an RR for the Honda PC800. I seem to remember > that it was the same as the VFR. > Am I right? Do you do an RR for the PC800? > cheers > Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > Milton Keynes > '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i Hi Russ, Yes you are correct. The RR30 Price £58.50 + vat If you wish, it can be ordered direct from our on-line catalogue in the Electric Section http://www.bbbikeshop.co.uk Regards. Barrie. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:29:16 -0400 Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:29:15 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:27:26 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Perhaps they were filming a commecial. Alex Vrenios on 09/06/2000 09:05:43 AM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Dsinofsky@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Let's say I'm the lead "new GW" guy and I want to make some test runs with a chase crew, a huge film camera bike, etc. Do I paint my top secret test bike yellow? -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:35:00 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "Revill Dunn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Vehicle ownership Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:39:36 -0500 Revill Dunn Wrote: "According to the nice woman at the County Tax Assessors office, liability for the vehicle ends as soon as you sign the back of the title." Here Illinois I once had a similar problem. I sold a car and got a call about two months later from the new owner who said, "I just bought your car at auction and there is a problem!" Well, I did explain that I hadn't sold the car to them NOR had I taken it to auction, and they did believe me. Now, after learning that lesson, I REQUIRE that the person to whom I sell a vehicle signs the back of the title BEFORE driving or towing it away. This way, they HAVE to transfer the title, since they have signed their name on it! Don't know if the law allows mw to actually do this, but I tell the purchaser of my prior experiences and they have always agreed to do it. Just my .02 on this subject! "May the COAST be with you!" Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 Pacific Coast "STORMTROOPER" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:42:57 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" , "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:38:17 -0500 The helmet you may be talking about flipping up is the Nolan N100. If the warehouse still has some in stock (they are not carrying Nolans anymore) I can get them for you at $160 each including shipping. I would also have to check to see what colors they have left. It would be best if you can find a local dealer that carries them so you can try them on so we know the size is correct since there are no returns on these close-outs. As for the intercom, I installed an Air Rider headset in both of my helmets. I used to have the Chatterbox set so I know what you have now. You should be able to install them in the N100's but you will need to mount the microphone on a small "boom" that comes out from the ear pad. That way you can talk with the chinbar up or down. The setup is kinda like a 3/4 helmet setup but the boom comes out of the earpad instead of wrapping around the outside of the helmet. Let me know if you have any questions or need any help. PS. Check out the AirRider site. They have the headsets and pics of the N100 and also an intercom system that includes the headsets that may interest you. http://www.airrider.com/ Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" requirement for the new ones too. We really liked a brand we saw recently (someone help me here) that had a front that flipped open for ease of taking on and off, but there wasn't any way to add the intercom speakers and mics to that kind of helmet --without having wire routing problems for the microphone. Any suggestions -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC 800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:19:51 -0700 .... but a lower profile front tire will cause your speedometer to read "faster", so you will be traveling slower if you fly by instruments and obey speed limits. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech Quantum > ---------- > From: Selden Deemer[SMTP:libssd@emory.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:33 AM > To: PC 800 List > Subject: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 > > Glassrhino@aol.com writes: > > > The second, and more costly option, is to actually get into the > > suspension and modify it to suit your preferences. This is done by > > changing the front springs (which are in the forks) and changing the > > rear coil over shock assemblies. > > The front end can be lowered approximately 1" at no cost by raising the > fork tubes in the triple clamps (no more than 3/4" or the tops will rub > against the plastic covers that surround the steering stem) and by > fitting a lower profile 120/70 front tire, instead of the stock 120/80 > size. > > These changes have no effect on ride harshness, but will quicken the > steering slightly. Fit a radial front tire to quicken the steering > still further. I have not encountered any cornering clearance problems > from these changes. > > ====================================================================== > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ====================================================================== > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:37:55 EDT Subject: PC800: 1996 PC800 w/ Trailer 4-sale To: TurtleChic7@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Trans821@aol.com, XTopCat1204X@aol.com, HDSAL@mymailstation.com, davisjam@coned.com, JACTAN@aol.com, N2HT@juno.com, Bobio195@gateway.net, fsl@borgconsulting.com, JMAN3674@aol.com, roy.armstrong@juno.com, AGRAVATOR@aol.com, BOSWHA@aol.com, biker.frog@flashcom.net I am looking to sell my 1996 Honda PC800. The date will be ASAP or after October 25th. This is because of the deliver date of the bike and vacation to Bike Octoberfest. I am looking for 4700 dollars.for bike and trailer. I will break up the set, but the bike goes first. Both are located in New Jersey. Desc of motorcycle as follows 1996 Honda PC800 Red, in very good/ clean cond. 45K Just put on, Front and rear Dunlop k555 tires $180. 4 month old Corbin leather saddle $424. 9 month old Clearview Plus 3 windshield $140. Givi E460 case, top rack, brake light and passenger back pad $400. Kriss 4 way flasher $36. New and complete Honda tool kit HitchDoc hitch $209. K&M Air filter $42 New,Bagman Ultra II cover $98. New, Tour King half cover $38. Honda Service Manual $40 Hondaline bags $60. Hondaline Trunk lights $38. Soft PC800 Glove Box Color Rite touch up paint TRAILER IS A 1996 Neosho Starlight Cargo trailer $699. Tow tone red, plus these extra on trailer Cooler and rack $50 Flexiride Suspension $150 Swivel Hitch $60. wood slats and rail on top $85. Self openning door $35. Buddy bearings $15. Brand new trailer cover $60. PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECTLY WITH ANY QUESTIONS. PLEASE PASS THIS TO ANY FRIENDS WHO MAY BE LOOKING FOR A BIKE. THANKS IN ADVANCE JIM T. BEACHWOOD, NEW JERSEY -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:03:22 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? To: mrgvideo@aeroinc.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Hi Mike! I wear a Nolan N100 (full face with flip up front chin guard) and I used to use the Chatterbox HJC-90 with it for bike-to-bike communications. It clamped to the side of the Nolan with no problem (I may have had to make a small cut in the decorative lower edging for clearance) and the mike routed nicely inside and velcroed to the left cheek pad near my mouth. The plastic material Nolan uses on the inside of the chin guard is like teflon and nothing self adhesive likes to stick there. I put auite a few thousand miles on my set up with not problem. The speakers fit neatly into premade ear cutouts inside the helmet. There are small filler pads velcroed in there when the helmet is new. I'm now on my second Nolan and like it very much. I find they do run a bit small, but I don't know how they compare to the HJC. I do know the the fit from L-XXL seems to only be the thickness of padding inside the helmet liner and you can adjust it yourself by adding or removing some padding. This does not affect the protective properties of the helmet. It just makes it fit better and removes any sore spots you may encounter because to the shape of your head (not that I have any idea from email what shape your head is). I swtched to CB (not Chatterbox, but I would buy one now if I was in the market) so I sold my HJC-90's. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" mrgvideo@aeroinc.net writes: >Hi everyone! > >I was riding to town to "Do my civic duty today!" Yes, I had to show up and >waste a morning not to be picked for jury duty. I never get picked anyway! >Wife's a legal secretary and some of our best friends are attorneys and law >enforcement officers. > >Anyway...where was I? Oh yes, riding to town... > >Marlisa and I currently have HJC full-faced helmets (FG-9's) and they are >falling apart. We would like to get new ones, and I am looking for feedback. >I tried several helmets when we bought these. I went with the one that I >found to be the most comfortable, and the HJC fit and felt the best. I >wound up having to buy an X-Large size! I didn't know my head was that big! >(...well on occasion, when I get a good idea or something like that!) We use >an HJC ChatterBox intercom system (the little one that mounts on the side of >the driver's hat and interconnects with the passenger via stereo mini plug), >and that is a NECESSARY requirement for the new ones too. We really liked a >brand we saw recently (someone help me here) that had a front that flipped >open for ease of taking on and off, but there wasn't any way to add the >intercom speakers and mics to that kind of helmet --without having wire >routing problems for the microphone. > >Any suggestions? What are all of you wearing? Are you using an intercom or >speakers in your hats? We don't want to spend $500 each on helmets, so the >'exotic brands' don't interest us in the least. > >Thanks for the feedback! > >"May the COAST be with you!" > >Mike Gunderson >Davis, IL USA >1989 Pacific Coast >"STORMTROOPER" >mrgvideo@aeroinc.net > >12 1/2 DAYS UNTIL WE "RUN FOR THE CHEESE" in Monroe, WI! > >Want to join us?? Contact me TODAY!! (or tomorrow...) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G0HLRB04.7G1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:42:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Parts numbers available HERE! Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:39:40 -0500 Well folks, just received my printed Honda Parts Catalog for the Pacific Coast off of today's UPS truck... If any of you need assistance with a part number... Give me a holler! I'll help you out however I can. Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:43:35 EDT Subject: PC800: Vehicle Ownership To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Another approach --- It is my policy to always execute and retain a Bill of Sale when disposing of a vehicle even though the purchaser's name and signature appear on the title. Why? My Bill of Sale indicates that I have delivered title (#_____) and transferred possession to the Purchaser; and, that I am no longer responsible for the vehicle described as (fill in blank) with Vehicle Identification Number #(fill in blank) this ____day of month, 2000. More importantly, I record the ODOMETER to the tenth of the mile on the Bill of Sale and also the EXACT time of day to the minute when signed. The purchaser whose address appears on the Bill of Sale must sign the document as understood and agreed to. I mail this document to my DMV via certified and registered mail -- retaining a copy for my records. Sometimes, purchasers fail to title or register the vehicle yet continue to operate it with tags switched from an older vehicle. The rub comes when there's an accident or an accumulation of parking citations -- the VIN # is traced back through the DMV looking for the lawful owner. With the above evidence, any activities occurring after the above date, time and mileage are beyond the agreement. Nothing is ever bulletproof -- except the Pacific Coast -- but this approach is the best one that I've found to date. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 MISSION Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:47:27 -0500 From: William Drake To: Fenwick CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Parts numbers available HERE! Hey I thought was my Job!!! :)~ talk to you later Bill Fenwick wrote: > > Well folks, just received my printed Honda Parts Catalog for the Pacific > Coast off of today's UPS truck... > > If any of you need assistance with a part number... Give me a holler! I'll > help you out however I can. > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > AMA - 361534 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:12:57 -0500 (EST) To: revill.dunn@legerity.com (Revill Dunn) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics --WebTV-Mail-27603-457 I bet it has a hard time surpassing the BMW K1200LT. Dave Klein Ft. Wayne, Ind. 97PC--16,500mi. "Cheeks'-big rear end :-} --WebTV-Mail-27603-457 storefull-224.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) 5 Sep 2000 11:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: laidbacksquirtt@webtv.net smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D3A9C; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAE10206; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:40:18 -0500 (CDT) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02013 for ; mail.legerity.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e85IeFl10320 for ; mopac.legerity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07252 for ; mopac.legerity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07248 for ; ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:38:59 -0500 Pics" (Sep 5, 1:26pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Whether it's the new model or not, what a cow! MOOOOOOOOOOOO! Glad I'm not fat enough to need one yet. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-27603-457-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:25:27 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:26:43 -0700 To: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net (Dave Klein), revill.dunn@legerity.com (Revill Dunn) From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: New Honda Spy Pics Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu All it has to do is not breakdown in the first 5,000 miles to surpass most of the K1200LTs. Plus if it does have a lighter frame than before and the engine is bored out which means it should be lighter, then it probably will outlast the tires on the K1200LT also. If you don't believe the K1200LT problems, just subscribe to the K1200LT list for awhile. Not much to surpass at all. At 06:12 PM 09/06/2000 -0500, Dave Klein wrote: > >I bet it has a hard time surpassing the BMW K1200LT. > >Dave Klein >Ft. Wayne, Ind. >97PC--16,500mi. >"Cheeks'-big rear end :-} -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:43:51 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: New Honda Spy Pics Dave Klein wrote: > I bet it has a hard time surpassing the BMW K1200LT. Performance? Maybe, maybe not. When Honda puts their considerable resources to such a task, they can be very impressive. Reliability? No contest. Even a 6 year old Golwing has proven more reliable than current model BMWs. Flair and Flamboyance? The BMW definitely has the advantage, but at a price. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:25:45 -0400 Anyone know where I can get a PC tool kit, mine did not come with one. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all...." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Ride for Kids Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:27:47 -0400 There is a "Ride for Kids" on Sept. 17th in Maryland if anyone is = interested. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all...." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:43:52 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit To: mickc@frederickmd.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about 50.oo Be Safe Jim T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:04:47 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: mickc@frederickmd.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:43:52PM -0400, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: -> The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about 50.oo I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, go buy the tools and create one yourself. The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:07:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:06:18 -0700 In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, (as if anyone cared). Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech Quantum -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:12:39 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: New Honda Spy Pics On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:43:51PM -0800, Juan A. Goula wrote: -> Dave Klein wrote: -> > I bet it has a hard time surpassing the BMW K1200LT. I'll bet it won't have a hard time surpassing the K1200LT. -> Performance? Maybe, maybe not. When Honda puts their -> considerable resources to such a task, they can be very -> impressive. I think it will surpass it in performance... it's hard to say since all indications I have seen says that it will have FI. -> Reliability? No contest. Even a 6 year old Golwing has -> proven more reliable than current model BMWs. No doubt. The F6 is one awesome beast. -> Flair and Flamboyance? The BMW definitely has the advantage, -> but at a price. Honda needed to redesign the Goldwing... it was definitely getting dated, and I think it is going to be one hell of a change... and I personally feel it is going to be the next "Tourer of the Year"... If it turns out to be as nice as I am betting, I may end up having to increase my stable. - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: Vehicle ownership of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:39:36 CDT." <009e01c01821$0c189960$869d1e0c@pavilion> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:23:04 -0500 "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" writes: > Revill Dunn Wrote: "According to the nice woman at the County Tax Assessors > office, liability for the vehicle ends as soon as you sign the back of the > title." > > Here Illinois I once had a similar problem. I sold a car and got a call > about two months later from the new owner who said, "I just bought your car > at auction and there is a problem!" Well, I did explain that I hadn't sold > the car to them NOR had I taken it to auction, and they did believe me. > > Now, after learning that lesson, I REQUIRE that the person to whom I sell a > vehicle signs the back of the title BEFORE driving or towing it away. This > way, they HAVE to transfer the title, since they have signed their name on > it! Don't know if the law allows mw to actually do this, but I tell the > purchaser of my prior experiences and they have always agreed to do it. And then the two of you should march directly to a copying machine so you can have a copy of the transfered title. Otherwise the "buyer" only has to have "lost" the title and the liability is still yours. Considering the copy will be only of the back of the title and not listing the vehicle proper I suggest in advance one make photocopies of the title and in the extra space on the large sheet write out a Bill Of Sale. And a copy of the buyer too. Make sure both parties sign both copies. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Alex Vrenios cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: 13 Step Oil Change of "Wed, 06 Sep 0100 09:11:15 PDT." <200009061611.JAA08463@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:25:11 -0500 Alex Vrenios writes: > In an earlier email to me David Kelly said: > > > > Alex Vrenios writes: > > [...] > > > Paper towels > > > > Newspaper works as good or better. > > > Not on my hands it doesn't. You wash your hands later with soap and water. The newspaper is for protecting the garage floor. And for cleaning up the oil pan when you are finished. I do prefer a paper towel for wiping the mating surfaces of the oil filter and drain plug. > > No need to wait. Remove the oil filter any time you can get something > > under to catch the drips. I use a 10 quart special conatiner which > > contains a "drain pan" moulded in the top. Covers the entire underside > > of the PC very easily. > > > The 6 Qt version of that container is a better choice. Yeah but it won't hold the 9 quarts from my Porsche 928S. I can do the PC and the Toyota before having to drain my pan. Also this "pan" was the shallowest I could find. I only poor the oil out into a milk jug the night before the recycle truck comes by as motor oil will eat thru milk jug plastic and some idiot dictated the recycle truck will not pick up motor oil in anything but a milk jug. Oh, and to add further genius to it, they dump the oil into their special tank and leave the milk jug. Which I promptly put in the non-recycle trash can having learned my lesson twice that the used milk jug will have holes in it in a month or two. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:33:35 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/6/00 4:04:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (Tim Davies) writes: > I wear a Nolan N100 (full face with flip up front chin guard) Can a N100 be stored in the trunk? If so, how? Mine goes over the passenger backrest, with the chin-bar slightly ajar. Works pretty well, but the required cable lock is a bit of an inconvenience. This is the only drawback to what is otherwise an excellent helmet. The optional fog shield is astonishingly effective, too -- even in near-freezing weather. -- Rusty J. Ogden, Utah '89 "Helix 800" -- The Pale Horse -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:39:34 -0400 From: Dale To: Roq8cyans@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? How big is your head that your helmet doesn't fit in the trunk?? :-) Roq8cyans@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/6/00 4:04:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (Tim Davies) writes: > > > I wear a Nolan N100 (full face with flip up front chin guard) > > > > Can a N100 be stored in the trunk? If so, how? Mine goes over the passenger > backrest, with the chin-bar slightly ajar. Works pretty well, but the > required cable lock is a bit of an inconvenience. This is the only drawback > to what is otherwise an excellent helmet. The optional fog shield is > astonishingly effective, too -- even in near-freezing weather. > > -- Rusty J. > Ogden, Utah > '89 "Helix 800" -- The Pale Horse > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:55:49 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview windshield To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/6/00 12:18:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pc800@dima.dhs.org writes: << Where can I buy one? >> You can call them directly at 800-798-6089 or go to their website at www.clearviewshields.com - I called them on 8/7 and placed an order. They told me they would be making it on Monday 8/21 and it arrived in the mail on 8/23! I was happy with the quick service and am delighted with the quality of the windshield. It is a definite improvement over the hondaline tall I had previously. Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" a/k/a The Cradle of Justice Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roq8cyans@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:32:21 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Replacement ! ? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/6/00 7:44:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dalehurley@earthlink.net (Dale) writes: > How big is your head that your helmet doesn't fit in the trunk?? :-) I wonder -- if I took all my tiny bars of soap and little shampoo bottles out of the trunk, would that make a difference? (Hey, the sticker says I can keep 10 lb. in each side...) Actually, the problem is that the helmet's hinge mechanism makes it too wide to fit, if it's placed in the trunk in the usual manner. > > Roq8cyans@aol.com (yep, that's me) wrote: > > > > In a message dated 9/6/00 4:04:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > > yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (Tim Davies) writes: > > > > > I wear a Nolan N100 (full face with flip up front chin guard) > > > > > > > > Can a N100 be stored in the trunk? If so, how? -- Rusty J. Ogden, Utah '89 "ST 800" -- The Pale Horse -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "Dave Bartlett" , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:39:49 -0400 What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool case to put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Bartlett" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:43:52PM -0400, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: > -> The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about 50.oo > > I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, > go buy the tools and create one yourself. > > The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. > > - dlb > > -- > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | > | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | > | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:49:38 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Robert H Walton To: "'Mickey Catron'" , PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:40:58 -0700 I'd suggest that you find out what tools you should have, and buy them. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mickey Catron [SMTP:mickc@frederickmd.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:26 PM To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Tool Kit Anyone know where I can get a PC tool kit, mine did not come with one. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all...." << File: ATT00004.htm >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:54:47 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Robert H Walton To: "'Mickey Catron'" , Dave Bartlett , "KC2ATQ@aol.com" Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:50:14 -0700 My tool case is a gallon size zip loc bag rolled in an old tee shirt. Works great, and the price is right. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mickey Catron [SMTP:mickc@frederickmd.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:40 PM To: Dave Bartlett; KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool case to put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Bartlett" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:43:52PM -0400, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: > -> The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about 50.oo > > I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, > go buy the tools and create one yourself. > > The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. > > - dlb > > -- > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | > | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | > | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:17:08 EDT Subject: PC800: My second big ride! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello fellow Coaster's... I will be heading to Mackinac Island this Friday at 1400 and returning Sunday sometime. My riding partner Jim talked me into it in about 10 seconds!!! I aim to please! Jim and his lady friend (Annessa) will be two up on his Vulcan Nomad , Me on the PC, and a mutual friend Erik on his new Vulcan Classic. I am really looking forward to the trip. Alot of history on the Island. There will be a Civil War re-inactment on Saturday. I will take pic's and post them later! Did I mention I am going to the Cheese Ride the following weekend also! I am racking up the miles and all I can do is Smile! :o) Later all... Todd Skar 89'PC 18k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI NEWPCRC (president) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:21:55 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: RE: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:21:54 +0000 For a more elegant yet costly approach, one can buy a nylon roll-up tool pouch from Sears. Also available from mail order companies who advertise in Cycle World, I believe. And probably any number of bike shops, auto parts stores, etc., for all I know. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > My tool case is a gallon size zip loc bag rolled in an old tee shirt. Works > great, and the price is right. > > Bob Walton > Milwaukie, Or > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mickey Catron [SMTP:mickc@frederickmd.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:40 PM > To: Dave Bartlett; KC2ATQ@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > > What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool case to > put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Bartlett" > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:43:52PM -0400, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: > > -> The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about > 50.oo > > > > I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, > > go buy the tools and create one yourself. > > > > The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. > > > > - dlb > > > > -- > > > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > > | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | > > | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | > > | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:29:33 -0500 (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:49:51 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Robert H Walton To: "'Peter Noeth'" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:45:04 -0700 I'll be unsubscribing to the list also, on Friday, but I'm sure that there will be some tears shed. :-) Will get back on around the 20th. Can't see having to wade through about 600 messages when I get back. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth [SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:06 PM To: 'PC800 List' Subject: PC800: Unsubscribe In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, (as if anyone cared). Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech Quantum -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:53:31 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Great Ned" , Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:53:24 -0500 Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication. = By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the = place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Great Ned=20 Subject: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Hi Pacific Coasters-- I am going because I really really like those itty bitty bars of motel = soap. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:57:07 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: PC800: Towing Story (long) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:57:06 +0000 I received a graphic lesson tonight on why Harley Haulers (tm) are so popular. My wife and I were riding in the southern part of Kansas City, when we happened upon a Harley victim who had been actually RIDING his Harley! (Honest!) He was stopped by the side of the road. The bike had suddenly died while running about 60 mph, and would not start. Didn't sound particularly good trying, either. His theory was that the primary belt had broken or come off. The real reason for this post is to advise you all of the difficulty we had finding a tow service willing to haul a motorcycle. I had my cell phone and the number of the towing company with which I did LOTS of business when I had my high-mileage Chevy Celebrity. (They LOVED me!) The poor Harley guy called that tow service and perhaps 7 or 8 others without finding one that would haul his bike. We were not far from the house of Ralph Wayne, the organizer of the vintage motorcycle show that Ralph Couey made us aware of recently. (Coming up October 7, by the way.) Thinking Ralph might know a solution, wife and I rode over there; met Ralph - very nice man. A policeman-biker friend of Ralph's gave us the name of a tow service that would haul the bike. We called, they came right out with a flatbed. So, if you ever happen to need a bike tow in KC, call Nate's Tow at 816-836-5749. (Yeah, I know, PC's don't break. Ever hear of a flat tire you can't fix? Or, God forbid, a crash?) Perhaps more importantly, you might wish to find a tow service in your area that will tow bikes, and carry their name/number in your wallet. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:58:55 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Peter Noeth" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:58:49 -0500 Pete, I care, I really, really, really care! Unless you think you Noeth all....;-) Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter Noeth" To: "'PC800 List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: PC800: Unsubscribe > In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, (as if > anyone cared). > > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech Quantum > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: My second big ride! Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:32:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: My second big ride! > Hello fellow Coaster's... I will be heading to Mackinac Island this Friday at > 1400 and returning Sunday sometime. Todd, I think your enthusiasm has overtaken a little good sense. I have been there, by boat, and there are no vehicles on the island. How do you plan to ride there, and what will you do when you get there (besides eat fudge)? Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Ralph Couey" , Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:33:42 -0700 Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your = medication. By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son = managing the place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey I chose that one because they give re-bates...... Lee (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:27:14 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: sge2000@att.net Cc: PC800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Towing Story (long) On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 03:57:06AM +0000, sge2000@att.net wrote: -> -> So, if you ever happen to need a bike tow in KC, call -> Nate's Tow at 816-836-5749. (Yeah, I know, PC's don't -> break. Ever hear of a flat tire you can't fix? Or, God -> forbid, a crash?) Perhaps more importantly, you might -> wish to find a tow service in your area that will tow -> bikes, and carry their name/number in your wallet. You may want to subscribe to HRCA.... Honda Riders Club of America.... They have a towing program.... you tell them where you are, and they find a towing company for you... - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: New Honda Spy Pics Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:25:32 -0500 Motorcycle Online ran one of the pictures today along with a retraction of a bogus "spy photo" link that they published last week (debunked by, of all folks, Honda). Honda PR folks were quoted as "no comment" on the veracity of the yellow wing. Interesting color choice, though. Several car manufacturers released car this year in Millenium Yellow, which seems to be a hot color. Sure makes the new wing look large, though. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:02:11 +0200 I'm gonna stay subscribed and hope that my provider can stock it up... Gonna catch my flight now (or try to..standby) to Seattle, I don't wanna miss anything from the Pacific Coast ya know ; ) For those who will be working next week:... HAHAHAAA!!!!!!!! For those coming along: Later dudes (that's Californian right ?) !! Emile ; ) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Peter Noeth" ; "'PC800 List'" Sent: donderdag 7 september 2000 5:58 Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe Pete, I care, I really, really, really care! Unless you think you Noeth all....;-) Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter Noeth" To: "'PC800 List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: PC800: Unsubscribe > In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, (as if > anyone cared). > > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech Quantum > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:09:10 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Great Ned" , Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:09:03 -0500 Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right? Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Great Ned=20 To: Ralph Couey ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your = medication. By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son = managing the place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey I chose that one because they give re-bates...... Lee (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 06:26:24 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Towing Story (long) To: dlb@cisco.com Cc: sge2000@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <20000907002713.J944@outhouse.cisco.com> dlb@cisco.com writes: >On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 03:57:06AM +0000, sge2000@att.net wrote: >-> >-> So, if you ever happen to need a bike tow in KC, call >-> Nate's Tow at 816-836-5749. (Yeah, I know, PC's don't >-> break. Ever hear of a flat tire you can't fix? Or, God >-> forbid, a crash?) Perhaps more importantly, you might >-> wish to find a tow service in your area that will tow >-> bikes, and carry their name/number in your wallet. > >You may want to subscribe to HRCA.... > >Honda Riders Club of America.... > >They have a towing program.... you tell them where you are, and they > find a towing company for you... > > - dlb > >-- > >+----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ >| Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | >| System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | >| | | | >+----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ Guide One insurance company also has towing included in their tour package that is offered to PC800 owners. I do not know what states they sell insurance in, but being able to call for a tow at least gives one peace of mind on the road. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G0ILC403.51E; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:31:16 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:28:04 -0500 > For those who will be working next week:... HAHAHAAA!!!!!!!! How about rubbing a little salt in those open wounds too, Emile??? (At least most of us on this list still OWN PC's...) Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 AMA - 361534 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:02 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe > I'm gonna stay subscribed and hope that my provider > can stock it up... > > Gonna catch my flight now (or try to..standby) to Seattle, > I don't wanna miss anything from the Pacific Coast ya know ; ) > For those who will be working next week:... HAHAHAAA!!!!!!!! > For those coming along: Later dudes (that's Californian right ?) !! > > Emile > ; ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Couey" > To: "Peter Noeth" ; "'PC800 List'" > Sent: donderdag 7 september 2000 5:58 > Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe > > > Pete, I care, I really, really, really care! Unless you think you Noeth > all....;-) > Ralph Couey > Columbia, MO > '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" > "A life lived without risk is no life at all." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Noeth" > To: "'PC800 List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:06 PM > Subject: PC800: Unsubscribe > > > > In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, > (as if > > anyone cared). > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech > Quantum > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:41:13 EDT Subject: RE: PC800: Tool Kit To: The tool kit component list is in the manual. However, I would, at a minimum, recommend the following: 5mm allen wrench (size of fastener that holds the vast majority of the plastic, the bolts that hold the rear seat are larger, I can't remember if it's a 6 or a 7) 10 mm box wrench (most common size bolt on the PC) 12 mm box wrench (next most common size bolt) 14 mm box wrench (another common size bolt) 17 mm box wrench (Oil filter bolt size) Phillips screwdriver size 2 most likely regular screwdriver You could possible substitute the box wrenches with a partial socket set. and oh yea, a hammer to beat the part if all else fails...(Just joking) Tom Fraser In a message dated Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:23:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sge2000@att.net writes: << For a more elegant yet costly approach, one can buy a nylon roll-up tool pouch from Sears. Also available from mail order companies who advertise in Cycle World, I believe. And probably any number of bike shops, auto parts stores, etc., for all I know. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > My tool case is a gallon size zip loc bag rolled in an old tee shirt. Works > great, and the price is right. > > Bob Walton > Milwaukie, Or > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mickey Catron [SMTP:mickc@frederickmd.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:40 PM > To: Dave Bartlett; KC2ATQ@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > > What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool case to > put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Bartlett" > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:43:52PM -0400, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: > > -> The complete tool kit can be ordered from your Honda dealer for about > 50.oo > > > > I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, > > go buy the tools and create one yourself. > > > > The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. > > > > - dlb > > > > -- > > > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > > | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | > > | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | > > | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:44:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:44:30 EDT Speaking of tool kit quality, I've always been less than impressed with the stock tool kits until I took a look at the one on an '83 Goldwing I was delivering for a friend. It was in a roll-type fake leather holder instead of the usual vinyl pouch, all the tools were higher quality chrome plated steel, and it included a decent ratchet and sockets. It was nice to have all the tools laid out in front of you when you unrolled it instead of trying to fish around in the pouch for the allen wrench that's down in the bottom and eventually having to dump the entire mess out to get it. Does anyone know what the tool kits in the newer wings are like? Of course, you pay a premium for the nicer tools. :) Nick >The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:51:52 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Unsubscribe To: , I'm jealous that you and the others are available to do the TGPCHPCMY2KMR. However, I wish all you that are riding the best fortunes and may the weather be perfect! Enjoy the trip and take plenty of photo's so the rest of us who unfortunately cannot attend can see what we missed! Enjoy your trip! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '89 PC800 "Singer" '89 PC800 "Lucky" In a message dated Wed, 6 Sep 2000 9:08:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Peter Noeth writes: << In preparation for the TGPCHPCMY2KMR, I am unsubscribing from the list, (as if anyone cared). Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 20K, '99 Bushtech Quantum -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:18:57 -0500 "Re: PC800: Tool Kit" (Sep 6, 9:04pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit > I would highly suggest NOT ordering the one from Honda, but instead, > go buy the tools and create one yourself. > > The quality of Honda tools are pathetic... you can buy tools of much > better quality from Sears, and also Craftsmen tools have lifetime > warranties.... and if you don't life Craftsmen, there are other > brands which are of higher quality, like Snapon. > >-- End of excerpt from Dave Bartlett Except for the special spark plug wrench and the rear shock adjuster extender, I'd agree with you. The spark plug wrench you probably can cob together with a socket wrench, extenders and swivel fitting; I don't know where you'd get a shock adjuster handle unless you want to bend your own piece of flattened tubing. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:49:47 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Towing Story (long) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 12:49:46 +0000 Dave and Tim, Thanks to both of you for the excellent ideas. I will look into the HRCA membership. As I was riding to work this morning, I was thinking about all the things I have learned, learned to care about, or learned where to acquire because of this list. It is no overstatement to say that six months or so on the list has done more to enhance my enjoyment of motorcycling and make me a better and safer rider than any other single factor in my experience. Thanks to all who make the list possible and worthwhile! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: swake1@juno.com by m9.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FHC73887; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:00:53 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:58:45 -0500 Subject: PC800: Intro and Vista Cruise question Name: Stephen L. "SWake" Wakefield Location: Bedford, Texas (below D/FW Airport) Email: swake1@juno.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1989 Bought Used/New: used Modifications made to bike: VistaCruise throttle (non) lock Good morning! I purchased a PC800 with ~16,000 miles on the clock last Thursday after completing the Motorcycle Safety Foundation RiderCourse the previous weekend, and I'm building up my confidence. So far, I haven't done anything extremely stupid, but I haven't yet figured out my limits on the machine. My PC has a "Vista Cruise" throttle lock installed. If the purpose of a throttle lock is to _lessen_ the pressure necessary to hold the throttle open, it's working perfectly. If, on the other hand, it is supposed to hold the throttle open _by_itself_, it isn't working correctly. I tried to adjust the set screw, but it seems to be all the way down. Does anyone have any suggestions? If the suggestion is a replacement, which brand(s). SWake Anything below this line is copied and/or an advert. Please don't blame me for the content. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:02:17 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: HRCA Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:02:17 EDT I've heard nothing but good things about HRCA. I had to use their services once when the stator went out on a Goldwing I was riding and I was about 700 miles from home on the Blue Ridge Parkway. One breakdown will more than cover the annual membership cost. They usually do more than just provide a tow; it's common for them to reimburse you for a hotel room when your bike is disabled, etc. They're good to deal with and really try to help any way they can. I wouldn't take a long trip without a membership. Nick _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:59:16 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:54:15 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit To: PC800 List Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail <20000907032155.FQB17157.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> I use a small money bag from a business supply store for the tools. It is about four by eight inches and made of very stout material, since it is designed to hold lots of change. As to the tools from Honda that go into the kit, I believe there is a list of them in the parts manual that several people have been talking about. Actually, it might make an interesting thread to learn what tools and repair materials people carry with them on their PCs. David -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Helmet Replacement ! ? Dale writes: > How big is your head that your helmet doesn't fit in the trunk?? :-) > > Roq8cyans@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/6/00 4:04:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (Tim Davies) writes: > > > I wear a Nolan N100 (full face with flip up front chin guard) > > > > Can a N100 be stored in the trunk? If so, how? The Nolan helmet has a huge external shell. I wear a medium, and the only way it fits in the trunk is with some squeezing. My old Shoei DuoTec (another flip up) fits easily. I have a size 7 1/8 head, and wear a medium helmet. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:21:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Tool Kit "Mickey Catron" writes: > What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool > case to put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route Cruz tools has several kits aimed at motorcyclists. Good quality stuff, with a case. There are two tools in the Honda kit that are difficult to replace: The preload adjuster handle for the rear shock, and the plug wrench. If you have Works shocks, you don't need the preload adjuster. If you shop around, you can probably find a general purpose plug wrench that will fit in the deep wells in the PC cylinder heads. If you never change plugs yourself, you can do without a plug wrench. I use a cordura sunglasses case that I found on sale for $2. It holds all the tools, and fits on one side of the "shelf" atop the rear wheel well (no conflict with the strut) where it's readily available even if the trunk is packed to the gunwales with camping gear. For a laundry list of what a seasoned long distance rider carries, see "Ron Major's Tool Kit." It's on the web at: http://www.ironbutt.com/aow/major_tools.htm ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:24:27 +0000 To: Roger Ries Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Clubs Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 13:24:25 +0000 Roger, Thanks for the HSTA recommendation. I will check it out; have already been thinking I should look into it, after others on the list have spoken highly of the group. I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty of CC'ing the PC800 list while responding to you. This seemed like something useful for any PC riders who aren't already aware of HSTA. (Such as the newer list members, perhaps.) -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > I would look into the HSTA. > Honda Sport Touring Association > > It is not a Honda only organization just started pout > like that. I have had the opportunity to hook up with > a lot of local people who are members of the HSTA. And > a few more statewide, when we did a weekend ride to > the North Shore of Minnesota. Around 25 bikes and what > a great time. One of the things you get is what they > call a Blue Book. It lists all the members of the HSTA > nation wide with a list of services the people can > supply. I have a large yard and a trailer. If somebody > needs a place to stay for the night or a trailer to > pick up their bike my name is coded to provide those > services to a fellow member. That is just part of it. > Check it out. > > http://www.ridehsta.com/ > > P.S. The founder, Dana Sawyer, owned a Pacific Coast > and was a member of this list. In fact he had two of > them over the years. He just recently bought a new > VFR. > > P.P.S. Meeting other local riders from Minnesota has > been the best and most enjoyable. > > > > > --- sge2000@att.net wrote: > > Dave and Tim, > > > > Thanks to both of you for the excellent ideas. I > > will > > look into the HRCA membership. > > > > As I was riding to work this morning, I was thinking > > > > about all the things I have learned, learned to care > > > > about, or learned where to acquire because of this > > list. It is no overstatement to say that six months > > or > > so on the list has done more to enhance my enjoyment > > of > > motorcycling and make me a better and safer rider > > than > > any other single factor in my experience. Thanks to > > all > > who make the list possible and worthwhile! > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > '89 PC800 > > > > > ===== > Later > Roger R > Chaska, MN > '98 PC800W - Red Alert > PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:34:38 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:32:16 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Chris Subject: PC800: New to pc800 In message <200009071143.GAA20484@sina.hpc.uh.edu>, Majordomo@hpc.uh.edu writes [snipped] Hi all I subscribed today. My details are as follows:- Name: Chris Chapman Location: Nottingham, England Email: chris@cbcboots.demon.co.uk PC Model year (if you have one): not yet Bought Used/New: Modifications made to bike: I own a 4 year old Pan European as a summer bike and a 10+ year old BMW K100RT as a winter bike. My wife (Jacqui) rides a Honda VLX400 STeed (a Harley Davidson clone) and enjoys posing around town with it but finds it no good for long trips etc (surprise surprise). However she wants to keep her Honda and not trade it in. So for long trips she pillions on my bike (and uses half my luggage space). She is a bit short in the leg department. My original plan was to get a lowered seat assembly 2nd hand for the BMW (new price is hundreds of pounds :-( ) but haven't found one yet. Now beginning to consider selling the BMW and getting a PC800 instead. We need to get her on one to check saddle height and to see if she likes them so I thought it best to join this list and listen in to you lot to see what I can learn. Also it will probably be the best place to get one should we decide it is the correct choice. Anyone near Nottingham with a bike that we could look at? -- Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:39:08 -0700 You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right? Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Great Ned To: Ralph Couey ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication. By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey I chose that one because they give re-bates...... Lee (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Clubs To: PC800 List So, If you had only X dollars to spend for a membership, would it be the AMA (which I currently a member) or the HSTA? or should I just cave in and join both... --- sge2000@att.net wrote: > Roger, > > Thanks for the HSTA recommendation. I will check it > > out; have already been thinking I should look into > it, > after others on the list have spoken highly of the > group. > > I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty of > CC'ing > the PC800 list while responding to you. This seemed > > like something useful for any PC riders who aren't > already aware of HSTA. (Such as the newer list > members, > perhaps.) > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > '89 PC800 > > > > > > I would look into the HSTA. > > Honda Sport Touring Association > > > > It is not a Honda only organization just started > pout > > like that. I have had the opportunity to hook up > with > > a lot of local people who are members of the HSTA. > And > > a few more statewide, when we did a weekend ride > to > > the North Shore of Minnesota. Around 25 bikes and > what > > a great time. One of the things you get is what > they > > call a Blue Book. It lists all the members of the > HSTA > > nation wide with a list of services the people can > > supply. I have a large yard and a trailer. If > somebody > > needs a place to stay for the night or a trailer > to > > pick up their bike my name is coded to provide > those > > services to a fellow member. That is just part of > it. > > Check it out. > > > > http://www.ridehsta.com/ > > > > P.S. The founder, Dana Sawyer, owned a Pacific > Coast > > and was a member of this list. In fact he had two > of > > them over the years. He just recently bought a new > > VFR. > > > > P.P.S. Meeting other local riders from Minnesota > has > > been the best and most enjoyable. > > > > > > > > > > --- sge2000@att.net wrote: > > > Dave and Tim, > > > > > > Thanks to both of you for the excellent ideas. > I > > > will > > > look into the HRCA membership. > > > > > > As I was riding to work this morning, I was > thinking > > > > > > about all the things I have learned, learned to > care > > > > > > about, or learned where to acquire because of > this > > > list. It is no overstatement to say that six > months > > > or > > > so on the list has done more to enhance my > enjoyment > > > of > > > motorcycling and make me a better and safer > rider > > > than > > > any other single factor in my experience. > Thanks to > > > all > > > who make the list possible and worthwhile! > > > > > > -- > > > Steve Ewens > > > Lee's Summit, MO > > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Later > > Roger R > > Chaska, MN > > '98 PC800W - Red Alert > > PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Strode" To: "Christoffer Carstanjen" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Clubs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:01:18 -0700 >If you had only X dollars to spend for a membership, >would it be the AMA (which I currently a member) or >the HSTA? or should I just cave in and join both... HSTA & HRCA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:55:37 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:57:32 -0700 To: Christoffer Carstanjen , PC800 List From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Clubs I've been a member of AMA for over 18 years now and I joined the HSTA 10 years ago. I would suggest that everyone who rides should belong to the AMA for the politics of motorcycling and that people who are looking for a good riding club should consider the HSTA. Jim Alexander HSTA #2307 AMA #415932 At 07:40 AM 09/07/2000 -0700, Christoffer Carstanjen wrote: > >So, > >If you had only X dollars to spend for a membership, >would it be the AMA (which I currently a member) or >the HSTA? or should I just cave in and join both... > > > >--- sge2000@att.net wrote: > > Roger, > > > > Thanks for the HSTA recommendation. I will check it > > > > out; have already been thinking I should look into > > it, > > after others on the list have spoken highly of the > > group. > > > > I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty of > > CC'ing > > the PC800 list while responding to you. This seemed > > > > like something useful for any PC riders who aren't > > already aware of HSTA. (Such as the newer list > > members, > > perhaps.) > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > > > I would look into the HSTA. > > > Honda Sport Touring Association > > > > > > It is not a Honda only organization just started > > pout > > > like that. I have had the opportunity to hook up > > with > > > a lot of local people who are members of the HSTA. > > And > > > a few more statewide, when we did a weekend ride > > to > > > the North Shore of Minnesota. Around 25 bikes and > > what > > > a great time. One of the things you get is what > > they > > > call a Blue Book. It lists all the members of the > > HSTA > > > nation wide with a list of services the people can > > > supply. I have a large yard and a trailer. If > > somebody > > > needs a place to stay for the night or a trailer > > to > > > pick up their bike my name is coded to provide > > those > > > services to a fellow member. That is just part of > > it. > > > Check it out. > > > > > > http://www.ridehsta.com/ > > > > > > P.S. The founder, Dana Sawyer, owned a Pacific > > Coast > > > and was a member of this list. In fact he had two > > of > > > them over the years. He just recently bought a new > > > VFR. > > > > > > P.P.S. Meeting other local riders from Minnesota > > has > > > been the best and most enjoyable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sge2000@att.net wrote: > > > > Dave and Tim, > > > > > > > > Thanks to both of you for the excellent ideas. > > I > > > > will > > > > look into the HRCA membership. > > > > > > > > As I was riding to work this morning, I was > > thinking > > > > > > > > about all the things I have learned, learned to > > care > > > > > > > > about, or learned where to acquire because of > > this > > > > list. It is no overstatement to say that six > > months > > > > or > > > > so on the list has done more to enhance my > > enjoyment > > > > of > > > > motorcycling and make me a better and safer > > rider > > > > than > > > > any other single factor in my experience. > > Thanks to > > > > all > > > > who make the list possible and worthwhile! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Steve Ewens > > > > Lee's Summit, MO > > > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Later > > > Roger R > > > Chaska, MN > > > '98 PC800W - Red Alert > > > PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > > anywhere! > > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > >===== >Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - >Western Massachusetts > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:28:25 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Lee's Disconnecting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Lee wrote: snip If you're referring to any of the fine establishments providing lodging and libations for the Y2K ride, I'll have you know that neither Lee nor I can stay at either, because they've already made it clear that they don't allow repro-bates! Sorry ..... Dean Williams -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Ride for Kids To: mickc@frederickmd.com (Mickey Catron) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 100 08:39:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In an earlier email to me Mickey Catron said: > There is a "Ride for Kids" on Sept. 17th in Maryland if anyone is = > interested. > There is a similar one in Phoenix on October 8th. I called for a brochure and will update anyon who is interested. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tool Kit To: libssd@emory.edu (Selden Deemer) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 100 08:55:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In an earlier email to me Selden Deemer said: > > "Mickey Catron" writes: > > > What is included in the tool kit, and what you recommend for a tool > > case to put the tools in if I were to go the assemble myself route > > Cruz tools has several kits aimed at motorcyclists. Good quality stuff, > with a case. There are two tools in the Honda kit that are difficult > to replace: The preload adjuster handle for the rear shock, and the > plug wrench. See http://www.cruztools.com/ for details. They will supply the proper sized spark plug wrench along with the kit you buy. Just tell them what you need. (Or tell them the bike make/model/year and they'll figure it out for you.) I looked at this stuff pretty hard while I was looking over the slightly rusted set I got with the bike. As it turns out, I as only missing the handle of the screw driver set - replaced with one I had around the house. I thought the feeler guage was missing, but it is slippd into a tiny pocket on one side of the plastic pouch. Nice! The rust comes off with oil and a little liquid wrench - most of it, anyway. The original kit adds to the "stock" feel that I kind of like. It's easy to get better quality tools, but these are for emrgencies, as I see it. The good stuff stays in the garage. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 11:50:42 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Clubs To: captaintupperware@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) captaintupperware@yahoo.com writes: >So, > >If you had only X dollars to spend for a membership, >would it be the AMA (which I currently a member) or >the HSTA? or should I just cave in and join both... > >===== >Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western >Massachusetts I look at the AMA as my pro motorcycle voice with the government (local, state and federal). As far as the fun stuff we keep riding motorcyles for, I don't get that from the AMA. I guess if you collect pins then the AMA is the best choice also. The HSTA is a group that just rides. How often a ride is organized depends on the activity in your area of the country. In NY it's zero, but there are around 20 members listed here iin NY. I have never seen any postings for rides in New England either unless they do not post to the HSTA listserv. Ohio is very active all the time and so are some other states. It all depends on the mix of personalities in a particular area. I went to teh Mail Pouch Fly By in Marietta, Ohio last month. That was 500 miles away for me, but I knew there would be some PC800 friends there and I got the chance to make some new friends. I also got to ride some great WV roads. Regional meetings (riding events) are held frequently in some areas and an annual rally (STAR) is held each year in a different location. I went to the one in Colorado this year. Everyone basically met in Avon, Colorado to ride the mountain roads for 4 days, then go home. STAR '01 will be in State College, PA. The HSTA Blue Book is the most valuable part of the group because it is a listing of all the members and what kind of service thay can provide to you on the road. For instance I offered lodging, camping, and general assistance. There are also discounts on motels (which I usually overlook). The bikes in the group are primarily sport touring bikes and many of the people who ride them love to push the limit, but there is now pressure for others (like me) to do the same. There is also a monthly newsletter. I also belong to the Honda Riders Club of America. I'm not sure I see any value from this group except for my towing (Honda brands only). Since I changed from Guide One to a cheaper insurance company I do not have towing through my insurance provider any longer. HRCA puts out a pretty lame bi-monthly newsletter too. When winter sets in I will have to reevaluate this membership. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Clubs To: PC800 --- PC800 Rider wrote: > I have never seen any > postings for rides in New > England either unless they do not post to the HSTA > listserv. In the Minnesota HSTA somebody started up a listserver on eGroups.com this is a simple way of starting up a listserver. Ours is called MN-Sportbike. It contains mostly HSTA members if not all and somebody gets a ride going every weekend. Somebody will send a message "Anybody want to ride?" and you usually get a couple of yes's. They decide were to meet and off they go. MN HSTA members try a monthly ride also whether it be a day or a weekend. There is one planned for the Black Hills even 9/21 - 9/24. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCRC #1022 a.k.a. #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:45:01 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: PC800 Rider Cc: captaintupperware@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Clubs On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:50:42AM -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: -> -> I also belong to the Honda Riders Club of America. I'm not sure I see any value -> from this group except for my towing (Honda brands only). Since I changed from -> Guide One to a cheaper insurance company I do not have towing through my -> insurance provider any longer. HRCA puts out a pretty lame bi-monthly -> newsletter too. When winter sets in I will have to reevaluate this membership. They also reimburse up to $75 a year for MSF courses.... so that in itself pays for the membership. - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:37:09 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:38:24 -0700 To: Alex Vrenios , mickc@frederickmd.com (Mickey Catron) From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Ride for Kids Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu For those that don't know about the Ride For Kids, I have been at Ride for Kids events since 1991 and have attended events in four different states. The Ride for Kids is put on by the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation. You can get info at http://www.ride4kids.org/ Please note that ALL of the money the motorcyclists bring in goes to the charity work unlike most charity events. Everything at the event, food awards and other support material is donated by various organizations including American Honda and other major corporations. Pediatric brain tumors are the number one medical killer of children. It is a great cause and a fun activity. Try to make one in your area. You can get the registration kit from the web site above. Jim Alexander At 08:39 AM 09/07/2000 -0700, Alex Vrenios wrote: > >In an earlier email to me Mickey Catron said: > > There is a "Ride for Kids" on Sept. 17th in Maryland if anyone is = > > interested. > > >There is a similar one in Phoenix on October 8th. I called for a >brochure and will update anyon who is interested. > >-- >Alex Vrenios, kx9i >1998 PC800: Kazesan >HRCA MBR # HM726120 >PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:52:36 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Towing Story (long) To: If you are a member of the Honda Riders Club, they maintain a list of motorcycle friendly tow companies. Of course, that doesn't guarantee they'll have one where you break down..... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:52:38 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Towing Story (long) To: If you are a member of the Honda Riders Club, they maintain a list of motorcycle friendly tow companies. Of course, that doesn't guarantee they'll have one where you break down..... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:00:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Clubs To: Dave Bartlett , PC800 Rider Cc: captaintupperware@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I belong and they paid for my ERC..no tow yet, thank God! Paul in Green Bay, WI --- Dave Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:50:42AM -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: > -> > -> I also belong to the Honda Riders Club of America. I'm not sure I > see any value > -> from this group except for my towing (Honda brands only). Since I > changed from > -> Guide One to a cheaper insurance company I do not have towing > through my > -> insurance provider any longer. HRCA puts out a pretty lame > bi-monthly > -> newsletter too. When winter sets in I will have to reevaluate this > membership. > > They also reimburse up to $75 a year for MSF courses.... so that in > itself > pays for the membership. > > - dlb > > -- > > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer > | > | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie > Interstate | > | | | > | > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:09:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Allen Loew Subject: PC800: Seat To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-MD5: G8lVwpg3kx1mplJr2ql0yQ== Does anyone have a new or close-to-new seat for sale? The seat on my PC800 needs to be replaced soon. --Allen =================================================== Allen Loew PLC-IMS Development Team FCO PM Tool Development Team allen.loew@central.sun.com Inside Extension: 78037 Outside Direct Dial: 303-272-8037 http://seadog.central/document/common/html/documentation_index.html http://paoli.central/home =================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:40:39 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? (was Clubs) You mean you have to PAY? Here in Illinois, the MRC/ERC is free. There is a $20 "reservation fee" that is refundable if you cancel early or complete the course (pass or fail). If you are a no-show, then they automatically keep it. However, they always are willing to take the $20 (or any amount) as a donation. Personally, I let them keep it. If I ever hit the lottery, the Illinois MRC will definitely be a benefactor of a number of new Honda 250's for the program. Rich Fenwick At 12:00 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, Paul Atkins wrote: >I belong and they paid for my ERC..no tow yet, thank God! >Paul in Green Bay, WI >--- Dave Bartlett wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:50:42AM -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: >> -> >> -> I also belong to the Honda Riders Club of America. I'm not sure I >> see any value >> -> from this group except for my towing (Honda brands only). Since I >> changed from >> -> Guide One to a cheaper insurance company I do not have towing >> through my >> -> insurance provider any longer. HRCA puts out a pretty lame >> bi-monthly >> -> newsletter too. When winter sets in I will have to reevaluate this >> membership. >> >> They also reimburse up to $75 a year for MSF courses.... so that in >> itself >> pays for the membership. >> >> - dlb >> >> -- >> >> >+----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ >> | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer >> | >> | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie >> Interstate | >> | | | >> | >> >+----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >> a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:53:54 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "R. Fenwick" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? (was Clubs) On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:40:39PM -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: -> You mean you have to PAY? Here in Illinois, the MRC/ERC is free. There is -> a $20 "reservation fee" that is refundable if you cancel early or complete -> the course (pass or fail). If you are a no-show, then they automatically -> keep it. -> -> However, they always are willing to take the $20 (or any amount) as a -> donation. Personally, I let them keep it. -> -> If I ever hit the lottery, the Illinois MRC will definitely be a benefactor -> of a number of new Honda 250's for the program. Here in NC.... you have to pay. The first time I took the MSF:RSS course was about 3 years ago... it was $35 per rider. The following year, it went up to I believe $90 per person... or a little less depending on which site you took it at. The reasoning was that when it was $35 per rider, the state subsidized the program, but too many riders signed up for it, and spent all the money allocated for it, so the price went up. Of course I believe that it's worth alot more than $100 to take the course.... I wouldn't argue too much paying $400-500 since it really does help in saving your life on the road. - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:00:18 -0700 Here in western Washington, both courses are put on by the Evergreen Safety Council (http://www.esc.org/cycle.html). The Motorcycle Riders Course costs $50 if you have a Washington State drivers license, otherwise, the cost is $188.45. They have a variety of new bikes of different sizes and shapes provided by Hinshaw's Honda of Auburn, WA for use in the MRC. The Experienced Riders Course costs $50, and you have to have a valid WA motorcycle endorsement and provide a bike for yourself. I just completed the ERC three weeks ago, and it was great. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick [mailto:fenwick@nn.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:41 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? (was Clubs) You mean you have to PAY? Here in Illinois, the MRC/ERC is free. There is a $20 "reservation fee" that is refundable if you cancel early or complete the course (pass or fail). If you are a no-show, then they automatically keep it. However, they always are willing to take the $20 (or any amount) as a donation. Personally, I let them keep it. If I ever hit the lottery, the Illinois MRC will definitely be a benefactor of a number of new Honda 250's for the program. Rich Fenwick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:05:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? (was Clubs) To: Dave Bartlett , "R. Fenwick" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I had to go to Iron Mountain, MI (in the U.P) to take it. Not offered in Green Bay (but we do have an NFL team! ) Paul --- Dave Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:40:39PM -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: > -> You mean you have to PAY? Here in Illinois, the MRC/ERC is free. > There is > -> a $20 "reservation fee" that is refundable if you cancel early or > complete > -> the course (pass or fail). If you are a no-show, then they > automatically > -> keep it. > -> > -> However, they always are willing to take the $20 (or any amount) > as a > -> donation. Personally, I let them keep it. > -> > -> If I ever hit the lottery, the Illinois MRC will definitely be a > benefactor > -> of a number of new Honda 250's for the program. > > Here in NC.... you have to pay. The first time I took the MSF:RSS > course was > about 3 years ago... it was $35 per rider. The following year, it > went up to > I believe $90 per person... or a little less depending on which site > you took it > at. The reasoning was that when it was $35 per rider, the state > subsidized the > program, but too many riders signed up for it, and spent all the > money allocated > for it, so the price went up. Of course I believe that it's worth > alot more than > $100 to take the course.... I wouldn't argue too much paying > $400-500 since it > really does help in saving your life on the road. > > - dlb > > -- > > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer > | > | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie > Interstate | > | | | > | > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Shirley Gladin" To: Subject: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:08:35 -0500 Hello everyone, I am new on this mailing list & look forward to talking = with you all. Name: Shirley Gladin Location: Northeaster Ohio 30 miles east of Cleveland right on Lake Erie Shores. Email: Shidla@mwweb.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1994 Black PC "Contessa" Bought Used/New: bought used=20 Modifications made to bike: see my log listed as #54 or #55 with Daniel = MacKay's Maintenance Log the last installation done was my Honda highway = pegs. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: , "Chris" Subject: Re: PC800: New to pc800 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:19:22 +0100 Hi, welcome fellow Brit. There is an '89 with standard seats and suspension in Milton Keynes just waiting for you to sit on it. mail me off list for contact details. Russ City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" iPCRC #777 Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris" To: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:32 PM Subject: PC800: New to pc800 > In message <200009071143.GAA20484@sina.hpc.uh.edu>, Majordomo@hpc.uh.edu > writes > > [snipped] > > Hi all > > I subscribed today. > > My details are as follows:- > > Name: Chris Chapman > Location: Nottingham, England > Email: chris@cbcboots.demon.co.uk > PC Model year (if you have one): not yet > Bought Used/New: > Modifications made to bike: > > I own a 4 year old Pan European as a summer bike and a 10+ year old BMW > K100RT as a winter bike. > > My wife (Jacqui) rides a Honda VLX400 STeed (a Harley Davidson clone) > and enjoys posing around town with it but finds it no good for long > trips etc (surprise surprise). However she wants to keep her Honda and > not trade it in. > > So for long trips she pillions on my bike (and uses half my luggage > space). She is a bit short in the leg department. My original plan was > to get a lowered seat assembly 2nd hand for the BMW (new price is > hundreds of pounds :-( ) but haven't found one yet. Now beginning to > consider selling the BMW and getting a PC800 instead. We need to get > her on one to check saddle height and to see if she likes them so I > thought it best to join this list and listen in to you lot to see what I > can learn. Also it will probably be the best place to get one should we > decide it is the correct choice. > > Anyone near Nottingham with a bike that we could look at? > -- > Chris > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:39:41 -0400 Subject: PC800: Re: Laptop Protection To: lgomez@msce.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) lgomez@msce.com writes: >Has anyone regularly traveled with their laptop in the trunk? I'm going >purchase a laptop and want to get some type of case that will protect it from >the vibration and also fit in the trunk. Preferably I would want one that >could hold several textbooks too so that it would replace the backpack I >currently use. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Larry Gomez >'89 PC800 >67K miles >San Jose, CA Larry, you sent this message to my address rather than the PC800 List address, but I will answer it and forward it along. I took a Apple PowerBook 3400 with me for the 3,500 mile journey to Colorado in June for the Honda Sport Touring Association rally. I decided not to use any case because it would take up too much room so I just slid it down inside my Honda trunk liner bags along with my pants for padding. The computer still works well to this day. On a regular basis I take it back and forth to school in my PC800 trunk in a regular laptop carry case with extra pockets for cables and manuals and peripherals. You should not have any problem with any case that fits well in your trunk. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:43:28 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. To: shidla@mwweb.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) shidla@mwweb.com writes: >Hello everyone, I am new on this mailing list & look forward to talking with >you all. > >Name: Shirley Gladin >Location: Northeaster Ohio > 30 miles east of Cleveland right on Lake Erie Shores. >Email: Shidla@mwweb.com >PC Model year (if you have one): 1994 Black PC "Contessa" >Bought Used/New: bought used >Modifications made to bike: see my log listed as #54 or #55 with Daniel >MacKay's Maintenance Log the last installation done was my Honda highway pegs. > > Welcome Shirley. I have passed by your way many times. Just this year I was by there 3 times on my way to motorcycle events. Hopefully we can meet up sometime for a ride as I pass by your way, or you pass by my way. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:52:52 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:54:07 -0700 To: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider), lgomez@msce.com From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Laptop Protection Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <000b01c01904$dbbe76b0$0d697cc0@mspl13> Larry, I regularly travel with a Laptop in my Givi trunk or in the saddle bags on the ST. I make sure that I shut it down rather than put it in suspend mode. I don't know that it makes a difference, but I know for sure if I shut it down the heads are parked on the hard drive. I have traveled as far as 9,000 miles with a laptop and not had a problem. I use a Wetsuit from Kennsington as the case for the laptop. It is like a little wetsuit for the laptop, so it provides a little bit of protection. Jim Alexander At 05:39 PM 09/07/2000 -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: >lgomez@msce.com writes: > >Has anyone regularly traveled with their laptop in the trunk? I'm going > >purchase a laptop and want to get some type of case that will protect it > from > >the vibration and also fit in the trunk. Preferably I would want one that > >could hold several textbooks too so that it would replace the backpack I > >currently use. > > > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > >Larry Gomez > >'89 PC800 > >67K miles > >San Jose, CA > >Larry, you sent this message to my address rather than the PC800 List address, >but I will answer it and forward it along. > >I took a Apple PowerBook 3400 with me for the 3,500 mile journey to >Colorado in >June for the Honda Sport Touring Association rally. I decided not to use any >case because it would take up too much room so I just slid it down inside my >Honda trunk liner bags along with my pants for padding. The computer still >works well to this day. On a regular basis I take it back and forth to school >in my PC800 trunk in a regular laptop carry case with extra pockets for cables >and manuals and peripherals. You should not have any problem with any case >that >fits well in your trunk. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:21:27 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Nick Wright CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool Kit Nick is right in that the old Goldwings had very nice tool sets. All my friends that have owned the older bikes praised the tools as high quality. Alas, that is no longer true. When I got my 93, the tools were in a plastic case and definitly of low quality. My friends that now have 98, 99's and 2000's have said they are really disappointed in the new tools being even worse. Some who traded in older wings kept their old tool sets for this very reason. Thomas Nick Wright wrote: > > Speaking of tool kit quality, I've always been less than impressed with the > stock tool kits until I took a look at the one on an '83 Goldwing I was > delivering for a friend. It was in a roll-type fake leather holder instead > of the usual vinyl pouch, all the tools were higher quality chrome plated > steel, and it included a decent ratchet and sockets. It was nice to have > all the tools laid out in front of you when you unrolled it instead of > trying to fish around in the pouch for the allen wrench that's down in the > bottom and eventually having to dump the entire mess out to get it. Does > anyone know what the tool kits in the newer wings are like? Of course, you > pay a premium for the nicer tools. :) > > Nick > -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:28:03 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Laptop Protection To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I take a laptop to and from work each day. I just put the laptop in the trunk inside the carrying case I got it with. The carrying case is just a glorified piece of luggage fit with some padding along with some additional room for papers and what not. Tom Fraser In a message dated 9/7/00 5:54:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jamesalexander@compuserve.com writes: << Larry, I regularly travel with a Laptop in my Givi trunk or in the saddle bags on the ST. I make sure that I shut it down rather than put it in suspend mode. I don't know that it makes a difference, but I know for sure if I shut it down the heads are parked on the hard drive. I have traveled as far as 9,000 miles with a laptop and not had a problem. I use a Wetsuit from Kennsington as the case for the laptop. It is like a little wetsuit for the laptop, so it provides a little bit of protection. Jim Alexander At 05:39 PM 09/07/2000 -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: >lgomez@msce.com writes: > >Has anyone regularly traveled with their laptop in the trunk? I'm going > >purchase a laptop and want to get some type of case that will protect it > from > >the vibration and also fit in the trunk. Preferably I would want one that > >could hold several textbooks too so that it would replace the backpack I > >currently use. > > > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > >Larry Gomez > >'89 PC800 > >67K miles > >San Jose, CA > >Larry, you sent this message to my address rather than the PC800 List address, >but I will answer it and forward it along. > >I took a Apple PowerBook 3400 with me for the 3,500 mile journey to >Colorado in >June for the Honda Sport Touring Association rally. I decided not to use any >case because it would take up too much room so I just slid it down inside my >Honda trunk liner bags along with my pants for padding. The computer still >works well to this day. On a regular basis I take it back and forth to school >in my PC800 trunk in a regular laptop carry case with extra pockets for cables >and manuals and peripherals. You should not have any problem with any case >that >fits well in your trunk. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:49:46 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:49:29 -0500 Aw, Bruce, they're not all bad...just find one you like and Pickett out. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pickett, Bruce D=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you? Bruce Pickett=20 Federal Way, WA=20 '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"=20 http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right? Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Great Ned=20 To: Ralph Couey ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your = medication. By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son = managing the place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey I chose that one because they give re-bates...... Lee (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:54:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Shirley Gladin" , Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:53:46 -0500 Welcome! We're Shirley Gladin deed you chose to join us! Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shirley Gladin=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Hello everyone, I am new on this mailing list & look forward to = talking with you all. =20 Name: Shirley Gladin Location: Northeaster Ohio 30 miles east of Cleveland right on Lake Erie Shores. Email: Shidla@mwweb.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1994 Black PC "Contessa" Bought Used/New: bought used=20 Modifications made to bike: see my log listed as #54 or #55 with = Daniel MacKay's Maintenance Log the last installation done was my Honda = highway pegs. =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:05:56 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Towing Story (long) Dsinofsky@aol.com wrote: > > Of course, that doesn't guarantee they'll have one where you break down..... This is true, but I do know for a fact that they will try _very_ hard to gt you out of a bad situtation. Example: Summer of 1996, Cory and I were on our return leg from STAR 96 (10K miles in three weeks). Cory lost the front wheel bearings approximately 180 miles south of Whitehorse, YT. Translation: in the middle of nowhere. We lucked out since it happened a couple of hundred yards away from a remote lodge/cafe/service station. Cory got on the phone to HRCA, the lady that answered called her counterpart in Canada who then does a search for a suitable towing service. None to be found (of course!). The lady in Canada then asks to talk to the owner/operator of the service station, calls him on his phone, I act as relay between Cory on the payphone and the owner of the lodge (aren't modern telecommunications wonderful?;-) HRCA then negotiates with the owner to have Cory's bike transported to Whitehorse in the guy's pickup, he asks $300 CAN for the service. HRCA sez "no problem, send us a bill." So the guy goes out, drills a couple of holes in the bed of his pickup, sets up two eybolts and we load the PC. Off to Whitehorse. We arrive too late, shop is closed, so we get a hotel and wait till the next day. Cory gets the bearings from the bearing shop across the street, pays the Honda wrench to press them into the wheel. I think his whole expense for the incident including the hotel room was about $90 CAN. Definitely worth the $35.00 membership. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:00:13 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:14:01 -0500 From: "Todd E. Gleason" To: PC800 Rider CC: lgomez@msce.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Laptop Protection Larry, Like Tim Davies... I've had an Apple 3400 on the road for long periods of hard riding. I rode about 1200 miles with it in a regular targus case, including the twisties... so the book was jostled pretty hard. No problems. I've done the same with an Apple G3 laptop. Can't be any worse than the way I set them down on the desk when their still in the bags. Todd Todd E. Gleason e-mail tgleason@uiuc.edu Broadcast News Journalist phone 217-333-9697 University of Illinois Extension fax 217-244-7503 1301 W Gregory Dr, Rm75 MC710 Urbana, Illinois 61853 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:19:25 -0400 Subject: PC800: Heat Controller Sold To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) My Gerbing electric clothing heat controller has been sold to a fellow Coaster 30 miles away who has aspirations of warm riding on cool fall days. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 01:47:50 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Helmet Replacement ! ? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:51:46 -0500 Importance: Normal I wear a Nolan 100 as well. Size XL. It fits into the rear left compartment. With the chin bar in the up position, I place into the compartment, facing somewhat downward and to the rear. I usually wrap in an old soft cloth sack I have first. Tight fit but it closes and no damage. Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:00:06 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: Any camping recommendations for Lake George area? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:04:02 -0500 Importance: Normal Hey Nick, I'm sure that you got plenty of suggestions. But I remembered that I saw something in a magazine about that area. Well I just had a chance to find it. The May 2000 issue of Rider magazine has a feature ride on the Finger Lakes. The author camped. If you can't find a live copy, leave me a fax number on my voicemail and I' ll fax it to you. My (work) number is 312-853-4344. Have fun and Ride Safe!!! Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "Fenwick" , Subject: PC800: Re: Trunk Mats Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:23:26 -0400 Rich, Got the mats today...they're great...thanks alot. Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all...." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:39 PM Subject: PC800: Parts numbers available HERE! > Well folks, just received my printed Honda Parts Catalog for the Pacific > Coast off of today's UPS truck... > > If any of you need assistance with a part number... Give me a holler! I'll > help you out however I can. > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > AMA - 361534 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and Vista Cruise question Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:32:34 -0500 Welcome to the list. I have a Vista Cruise unit on my 1995 and it works pretty well. I have noticed that the adjustment screw has a very wide slot considering it's small diameter. My only suggestion would be to back the screw off and verify that it is really turning. As the screw gets looser, the thumb lever should flop around more. If you can verify this and tightening the screw doesn't improve the operation, I guess it's possible that it is just worn and in need of replacement. I know that mine doesn't work as well as it did 4 years ago when new and has required a few adjustments. Hope this helps in some way. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX SWake wrote ...... > My PC has a "Vista Cruise" throttle lock installed. If the purpose of a > throttle lock is to _lessen_ the pressure necessary to hold the throttle > open, it's working perfectly. If, on the other hand, it is supposed to > hold the throttle open _by_itself_, it isn't working correctly. I tried > to adjust the set screw, but it seems to be all the way down. Does > anyone have any suggestions? If the suggestion is a replacement, which > brand(s). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Clubs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:38:45 -0500 At the behest of a former list member, I joined the HSTA a couple of seasons ago. Unfortunately, owing to family considerations, I didn't participate much and let my membership lapse. However, the folks in and around the St. Louis area were very friendly, knowledgeable and fast. Now that I have more time to ride, I am considered joining again. Great group of folks and lots of interesting rides. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Shirley Gladin" , Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:42:23 -0500 Hi Shirley and welcome to the group. I notice by your info that you have = the .......... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR THREAD AGAIN.............. correct = color PC. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shirley Gladin=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Hello everyone, I am new on this mailing list & look forward to = talking with you all. =20 Name: Shirley Gladin Location: Northeaster Ohio 30 miles east of Cleveland right on Lake Erie Shores. Email: Shidla@mwweb.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1994 Black PC "Contessa" Bought Used/New: bought used=20 Modifications made to bike: see my log listed as #54 or #55 with = Daniel MacKay's Maintenance Log the last installation done was my Honda = highway pegs. =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. To: markieg@wowzer.com (Mark Gilb) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 100 20:28:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: shidla@mwweb.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In an earlier email to me Mark Gilb said: > > Hi Shirley and welcome to the group. I notice by your info that you have = > the .......... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR THREAD AGAIN.............. correct = > color PC. > Shirley, you'll get used to this list after a while. Sometimes it's impossible to believe what you just red. -- Alex Vrenios, kx9i 1998 PC800: Kazesan HRCA MBR # HM726120 PCRC Registry #1002 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:26:34 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and Vista Cruise question Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 03:26:32 +0000 I put a Vista Cruise on my PC a few months ago. As I recall, the instructions indicated to tighten the adjustment screw very conservatively. I tried that for several days; tighten until it seems to hold, then in just a few miles it would release the throttle. Repeated that cycle a number of times. Finally in frustration I gave the screw several turns. It held the throttle in place, but I could still close the throttle with the Vista Cruise locked. (A good thing!) Months later, it is still working the same way. Two points: -The Vista Cruise IS supposed to hold the throttle open. -It takes more turns than the directions seem to suggest to set the adjustment screw properly, at least in some cases. Good luck with yours, and welcome to the list. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Welcome to the list. I have a Vista Cruise unit on my 1995 and it works > pretty well. I have noticed that the adjustment screw has a very wide slot > considering it's small diameter. My only suggestion would be to back the > screw off and verify that it is really turning. As the screw gets looser, > the thumb lever should flop around more. If you can verify this and > tightening the screw doesn't improve the operation, I guess it's possible > that it is just worn and in need of replacement. I know that mine doesn't > work as well as it did 4 years ago when new and has required a few > adjustments. Hope this helps in some way. > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 FAUX > > SWake wrote ...... > > My PC has a "Vista Cruise" throttle lock installed. If the purpose of a > > throttle lock is to _lessen_ the pressure necessary to hold the throttle > > open, it's working perfectly. If, on the other hand, it is supposed to > > hold the throttle open _by_itself_, it isn't working correctly. I tried > > to adjust the set screw, but it seems to be all the way down. Does > > anyone have any suggestions? If the suggestion is a replacement, which > > brand(s). > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Alex Vrenios" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:26:31 -0500 Alex, it's obvious that you have been reading too many of Ralph's posts. Mark G. Alex Vrenios wrote ..... > Shirley, you'll get used to this list after a while. Sometimes it's > impossible to believe what you just red. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Strode" To: "Alex Vrenios" , "Mark Gilb" Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:09:29 -0700 Yes, not everything is in black and pearl. >In an earlier email to me Mark Gilb said: >> >> Hi Shirley and welcome to the group. I notice by your info that you have = >> the .......... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR THREAD AGAIN.............. correct = >> color PC. >> >Shirley, you'll get used to this list after a while. Sometimes it's >impossible to believe what you just red. > >-- >Alex Vrenios, kx9i >1998 PC800: Kazesan >HRCA MBR # HM726120 >PCRC Registry #1002 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Pay for the MRC/ERC? (was Clubs) To: Thomas Ongstad , Pacific Coast List Posting Hi Tom, I don't remember as it's been a few years ago. But, it was a great class on my PC. We had some beemers, wings and harley's and it was great to see the instructor put his wing through the paces. When we went to lunch as a group on our bikes, it was the first time I had ridden with a group..what a hoot! Paul in Green Bay --- Thomas Ongstad wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Curious. Did you have to pay the standard rate (whatever that is > now, > $35 or so) for the class or a higher rate for being from out of > State? > > Thanks > > Thomas > > Paul Atkins wrote: > > > > I had to go to Iron Mountain, MI (in the U.P) to take it. Not > offered > > in Green Bay (but we do have an NFL team! ) > > Paul > > --- Dave Bartlett wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:40:39PM -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: > > > -> You mean you have to PAY? Here in Illinois, the MRC/ERC is > free. > > > There is > > > -> a $20 "reservation fee" that is refundable if you cancel early > or > > > complete > > > -> the course (pass or fail). If you are a no-show, then they > > > automatically > > > -> keep it. > > > -> > > > -> However, they always are willing to take the $20 (or any > amount) > > > as a > > > -> donation. Personally, I let them keep it. > > > -> > > > -> If I ever hit the lottery, the Illinois MRC will definitely be > a > > > benefactor > > > -> of a number of new Honda 250's for the program. > > > > > > Here in NC.... you have to pay. The first time I took the > MSF:RSS > > > course was > > > about 3 years ago... it was $35 per rider. The following year, > it > > > went up to > > > I believe $90 per person... or a little less depending on which > site > > > you took it > > > at. The reasoning was that when it was $35 per rider, the state > > > subsidized the > > > program, but too many riders signed up for it, and spent all the > > > money allocated > > > for it, so the price went up. Of course I believe that it's > worth > > > alot more than > > > $100 to take the course.... I wouldn't argue too much paying > > > $400-500 since it > > > really does help in saving your life on the road. > > > > > > - dlb > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > > > | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie > Tourer > > > | > > > | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie > > > Interstate | > > > | | | > > > | > > > > > > +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the > body of > > > a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) > 95Hannigan > 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) > GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:36:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sheila A. Coneybeer" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:30:15 -0700 Talk 'bout having too much time... BTW, I too am relatively new to the list...kinda. =20 I don't feel like a newbie since my SO, Mike Kanitsch, either reads me = most of the posts or I've been reading them over his shoulder for = months. Name: Sheila Coneybeer Location: Phoenix, AZ I ride as passenger behind Mike on Scarlett O'Honda, our 1990 Candy = Glory Red PC. I find nothing wrong with her color. I am also learning = to ride on a 1996 Suzuki Intruder 800, since I am vertically challenged = and really need that security of flat-footing. Now, back to reading and occasionally responding... Sheila Coneybeer aka Ladysings "Sometimes you gotta do the wrong thing to be in the right place..." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ralph Couey=20 To: Shirley Gladin ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Welcome! We're Shirley Gladin deed you chose to join us! Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shirley Gladin=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Hello everyone, I am new on this mailing list & look forward to = talking with you all. Name: Shirley Gladin Location: Northeaster Ohio 30 miles east of Cleveland right on Lake Erie = Shores. Email: Shidla@mwweb.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1994 Black PC "Contessa" Bought Used/New: bought used=20 Modifications made to bike: see my log listed as #54 or #55 with = Daniel MacKay's Maintenance Log the last installation done was my Honda = highway pegs. =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:11:53 EDT Subject: PC800: Trailer Hitch 4 Sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am selling a Hitchdoc trailer hitch for the PC800. It is a receiver type, so when you are not towing, the ball can be removed and you can not tell the bike has a hitch. I have all parts and paperwork. I am selling it for 150.00 shipped or will trade for a 1500 Gold Wing hitch. Be safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:51:52 EDT Subject: PC800: It happened! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fenwick@nn.com Lister's, The unfortunate happened today. I was just getting on the PC and was heading out of my car port to the driveway leading to the street. I got around the corner and All I saw was GRILL! Some woman in a van was barreling down the driveway. I saw the grill and took "Poseidon" down to the pavement! Damn it! I was on the way home and noticed that the plastic around the mirror (right side) was cracked to the turn signal! What are my options here? I am to head out on a long ride tomorrow. I tell ya the timing is impecable! Rich know the part #'s? thanks for listening, I am pretty bummed out. Help if ya can...Thanks all! Todd Skar 89'PC 18k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI NEWPCRC (president) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "Fenwick" , Subject: PC800: Trunk Mats Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:52:32 -0700 Got my Trunk mats today! Hey Rich! BRAVO!!!!!! I like them!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:12:12 +0100 > > These changes have no effect on ride harshness, but will quicken the > steering slightly. Fit a radial front tire to quicken the steering > still further. I have not encountered any cornering clearance problems > from these changes. I dont know about the US but in the UK it is illegal to fit a radial tyre on the front with crossply or bias belt on the rear. just my tuppenceworth. Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic Milton Keynes '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 06:34:51 -0500 From: William Drake To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fenwick@nn.com Subject: Re: PC800: It happened! Todd, At least your ok! Here is the part number for the right side mirror housing, 88115-MR5-013ZA (Honda Code 3418514) in Pacific White Color code NH251P Have a good trip Bill Drake ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > > Lister's, > The unfortunate happened today. I was just getting on the > PC and was heading out of my car port to the driveway leading to the street. > I got around the corner and All I saw was GRILL! > Some woman in a van was barreling down the driveway. I saw the grill and > took "Poseidon" down to the pavement! Damn it! I was on the way home and > noticed that the plastic around the mirror (right side) was cracked to the > turn signal! What are my options here? I am to head out on a long ride > tomorrow. I tell ya the timing is impecable! Rich know the part #'s? thanks > for > listening, I am pretty bummed out. Help if ya can...Thanks all! > > Todd Skar > 89'PC 18k > "Poseidon" > Green Bay, WI > NEWPCRC > (president) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mickey Catron" To: "John Strode" , "Alex Vrenios" , "Mark Gilb" Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:58 -0400 If we WHITE a while then the rest of you will realize what the best color is Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" "One bike to rule them all...." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Strode" To: "Alex Vrenios" ; "Mark Gilb" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:09 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. > Yes, not everything is in black and pearl. > > > >In an earlier email to me Mark Gilb said: > >> > >> Hi Shirley and welcome to the group. I notice by your info that you have > = > >> the .......... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR THREAD AGAIN.............. correct = > >> color PC. > >> > >Shirley, you'll get used to this list after a while. Sometimes it's > >impossible to believe what you just red. > > > >-- > >Alex Vrenios, kx9i > >1998 PC800: Kazesan > >HRCA MBR # HM726120 > >PCRC Registry #1002 > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Shirley Gladin" To: Subject: PC800: A Homey Feeling Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:33 -0500 Thank you all the the "homey welcome" to the list. Sheila, nice to see = a gal on this list even if you only get a chance to peek over the = shoulders of Ralph who I noticed has a Red. Rich, thanks for sending me = to this site, I won't forget you. Mark, I had questions on other colors = than Black, red, & white & I see there's a blue one floating arount = here. But the Onyx is still best! Alex thanks for giving me the "real = up date on these guys". Oh, and "RED" is truly okay for a PC. & don't = forget to use sun screen on Kazesan, wouldn't want her/him (?) to get = burnt orange this summer would we? Thanks to Alex &Bernie, your not = forgotten. =20 I've learned a lot so far. Never thought of taking my LapTop on a ride = It pains me to take along the cell phone. But at last I don't think that = I ever turn it on. Gee, nice to meet all of you. Shirley 94 Blk "Contessa" on=20 other colors than Black, red, & white & I see there's a blue one = floating arount here.  But the Onyx is still best!  Alex = thanks for=20 giving me the "real up date on these guys". Oh, and "RED" is truly okay = for a=20 PC.  & don't forget to use sun screen on Kazesan, wouldn't want = her/him=20 (?) to get burnt orange this summer would we?  Thanks to Alex = &Bernie,=20 your not forgotten. 
 
I've learned a lot so far. Never thought = of taking=20 my LapTop on a ride It pains me to take along the cell phone. But at = last I=20 don't think that I ever turn it on.
 
Gee, nice to meet all of=20 you.
Shirley
94 Blk=20 "Contessa"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:25:14 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 To: , This is interesting. Do you, or anyone on the list know the basis for this type of law? Tom Fraser '89 PC800 "Singer" '89 PC800 "Lucky" In a message dated Fri, 8 Sep 2000 4:12:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Russ Goff" writes: << > > These changes have no effect on ride harshness, but will quicken the > steering slightly. Fit a radial front tire to quicken the steering > still further. I have not encountered any cornering clearance problems > from these changes. I dont know about the US but in the UK it is illegal to fit a radial tyre on the front with crossply or bias belt on the rear. just my tuppenceworth. Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic Milton Keynes '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:36:41 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:41:43 -0400 From: Ronald ramsay To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New comer boundary="------------E344B4FD9A48E6F9E5B0CB6C" --------------E344B4FD9A48E6F9E5B0CB6C Hi you All I am a new to you Guys I am from across the border in a town called Dollard des Ormeaux Quebec Canada I recently bought a 98 V-STAR 650 cc Yamaha with 7000 miles .Never rode a bike before in my 64 years .Took a bike course which everybody of my age and may be others should take. Until recently i didn't known a good bike until i mounted a PC800 which felt like love at first site, you known what I mean !!!!. SO if any of you Gentlemen hear of one for Sale, I would appreciate a message from you at e-mail : TheFlyingTurkey@sympatico.ca or will accept collect calls at 514-626-6288. I just missed the one for sale from member KC2ATQ@aol.com There will next time I hope For you GUYS who want to known why I chose a name like TheFlyingTurkey is... that until very recently i was flying an ultralight motorized parachute made by Buckey with a .max speed of 30mph with no wind in the back. Too slow but I was FUN Ron alias --------------E344B4FD9A48E6F9E5B0CB6C Hi you All

I am a new  to you Guys

I am from across the border in a town  called Dollard des Ormeaux Quebec Canada

I recently bought a 98 V-STAR 650 cc  Yamaha with 7000 miles .Never rode a bike before in my 64 years

.Took a bike course  which everybody of my age and may be others
should take.

Until recently i didn't  known a good bike until i mounted  a PC800  which felt like  love at first site, you known what I mean !!!!.

SO if any of you Gentlemen hear of one for Sale, I would appreciate  a message from you at e-mail : TheFlyingTurkey@sympatico.ca or will accept collect calls at 514-626-6288.

I just missed the one for sale from  member KC2ATQ@aol.com

There will next time I hope

For you GUYS who want to known why I chose a name like  TheFlyingTurkey  is... that until very recently i was flying an ultralight motorized parachute made by Buckey  with a .max speed  of 30mph with no wind in the back. Too slow but I was FUN

Ron alias --------------E344B4FD9A48E6F9E5B0CB6C-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: Russ Goff cc: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 In this, as in many other areas, US (and state) governmental regulations are less intrusive than in other countries. I am aware that it is generally not recommended to mix bias and radial tires, although if they must be mixed, radial front with bias rear is considered much more acceptable than the reverse fitment. I first tried this after a search of the PC archive, where I found a very thorough write-up by Kent Polk: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9510/msg00214.html I have put more than 10,000 miles on the bike with this combination. I was so pleased with the results that when I wore out my first front tire, I replaced it with another exactly like it. The improvement in handling is hard to believe, changing from somewhat trucklike, with an unsettling sensitivity to brake/throttle inputs in a turn, to very flickable, and almost completely unaffected by brake and throttle inputs. This is not just the normal improvement of a new tire; I did that on my first PC, which had a brand new K177 on the front during its short life, and the handling was still far from where I wanted it. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Russ Goff wrote: > > > > These changes have no effect on ride harshness, but will quicken the > > steering slightly. Fit a radial front tire to quicken the steering > > still further. I have not encountered any cornering clearance problems > > from these changes. > > I dont know about the US but in the UK it is illegal to fit a radial tyre on > the front with crossply or bias belt on the rear. > > just my tuppenceworth. > > Russ bikes@f-goff.co.uk PCRC #777 > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > Milton Keynes > '89 Honda PC800 "Obelix" '90 LandRover Discovery LPG V8i > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:13:04 -0500 "Re: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800" (Sep 8, 8:25am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Lowering the ride height of PC 800 >This is interesting. Do you, or anyone on the list know the basis for this >type of law? Basis? Law? Are you kidding? Either someone stood to profit, or some Legislator had an Idea. At least the profit motive makes sense. Here in Texas, where pi = 3 by act of the State Legislature (really!) we have found that having the Lege meet only every two years is highly effective in cutting down on the number of goofy or worse laws on the books. Another example? Couple of years ago the Society of Registered Professional Engineers (A private society of structural, mechanical and public works engineers who do consulting work) got the Lege to pass a law stating that the word "Engineer" may only be used by a member of their organization in Texas. They forgot about other engineering degrees like Electrical Engineering and Software Engineering, and the many engineers who don't do public consulting work. I don't know what they expected to call train drivers. Or there's the case of the Helmet Law. Seems enough Hardley Riders were upset at having to protect their brains that they "repealed" the helmet law. Now, you're not required to wear a helmet IF you can prove that you have enough assets in the bank to pay for getting your head bashed in. You're supposed to carry a special card. I don't know anyone who's gone to the trouble, and I don't think the DPS is checking. Having a Governor with nothing to do but run for President is a cost saver too. Do you have any idea how much it costs to cool the Governors Mansion in 112 degree heat? Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:09:10 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "Revill Dunn" Subject: PC800: Pi=3 in TX? [was:Lowering the ride height of PC 800 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" >Here in Texas, where pi = 3 by act of the State Legislature (really!) we have >found that having the Lege meet only every two years is highly effective in >cutting down on the number of goofy or worse laws on the books. Okay, we gotta have some evidence of this now. Indiana almost made pi=3 a law in 1897, but fortunately listened to a math professor instead of someone's pet wacko and killed the bill (http://www.cs.unb.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/mathtext/node18.html). I've searched Texas Legistature online (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/) and for the years of 1995, 97, & 99 the only time "pi" shows up is as a private investigator, part of a name of a fraternity or sorority, and as an Asian name. Evidence please! best, Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'Ralph Couey'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'greatned@quik.com'" Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:54:34 -0700 Ralph, Please don't get into a Frenzy, but beyond a Shadow of a Doubt, you've got The Wrong Man. I may no longer be Young and Innocent, but I am not the Man Who Knew Too Much. It doesn't take a Secret Agent searching for a Saboteur lurking behind a Torn Curtain to realize that this is all going Downhill. I Confess that I have a Suspicion that this thread is for The Birds. If there's much more of it, I'm sure to be overcome by Vertigo while walking down The Thirty-Nine Steps outside my Rear Window. Well, anyway, let's not be Strangers on a Train. I have to go now and find a Rope to tie some more stuff onto Blue before The Lady Vanishes in the morning as we depart for TGPCHPCMY2KMR. Take care, and for all those Coasters gathering on the west coast this weekend, see ya in Eureka! Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:49 PM To: Pickett, Bruce D; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Aw, Bruce, they're not all bad...just find one you like and Pickett out. Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey [ mailto:pcstarship@home.com ] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right? Ralph Couey Columbia, MO '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" "A life lived without risk is no life at all." ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Great Ned To: Ralph Couey ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication. By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the place. Named Norman.... Ralph Couey I chose that one because they give re-bates...... Lee (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) Eureka!

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:49 PM
To: Pickett, Bruce D; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

Aw, Bruce, they're not all bad...just find one you like and Pickett out.
 
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you?

Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM
To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right?
 
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
----- Original Message -----
From: Great Ned
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

 
 
Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication.  By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the place.  Named Norman....
 
Ralph Couey
 
I chose that one because they give re-bates......
 
Lee
 
(did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?)
Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:06:36 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting ing.com> Folks... I think the "bar just got raised" here on 'ol Ralphie... Rich Fenwick At 07:54 AM 09/08/2000 -0700, Pickett, Bruce D wrote: > > Ralph, > > Please don't get into a Frenzy, but beyond a Shadow of a Doubt, you've got > The Wrong Man. I may no longer be Young and Innocent, but I am not the Man > Who Knew Too Much. It doesn't take a Secret Agent searching for a Saboteur > lurking behind a Torn Curtain to realize that this is all going Downhill. I > Confess that I have a Suspicion that this thread is for The Birds. If there's > much more of it, I'm sure to be overcome by Vertigo while walking down The > Thirty-Nine Steps outside my Rear Window. > > Well, anyway, let's not be Strangers on a Train. I have to go now and find a > Rope to tie some more stuff onto Blue before The Lady Vanishes in the morning > as we depart for TGPCHPCMY2KMR. > > Take care, and for all those Coasters gathering on the west coast this > weekend, see ya in Eureka! > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > > http://www.users.uswest.n > et/~bpickett/Blue.html >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:49 PM >> To: Pickett, Bruce D; pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting >> >> Aw, Bruce, they're not all bad...just find one you like and Pickett out. >> >> Ralph Couey >> Columbia, MO >> '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" >> "A life lived without risk is no life at all." >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Pickett, Bruce D >>> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 AM >>> Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting >>> >>> You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you? >>> Bruce Pickett >>> Federal Way, WA >>> '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" >>> >>> http://www.users.uswest >>> .net/~bpickett/Blue.html >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM >>> To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu >>> Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting >>> >>> Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right? >>> >>> Ralph Couey >>> Columbia, MO >>> '95 PC800 "Seishin No Yomichi" >>> "A life lived without risk is no life at all." >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Great Ned >>>> To: Ralph Couey ; >>>> pc800@hpc.uh.edu >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM >>>> Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication. >>>>> By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the >>>>> place. Named Norman.... >>>>> >>>>> Ralph Couey >>>>> >>>>> I chose that one because they give re-bates...... >>>>> >>>>> Lee >>>>> >>>>> (did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?) >>>> >>> >> > >
Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:49 PM
To: Pickett, Bruce D; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting
Aw, Bruce, they're not all bad...just find one you like and Pickett out.
 
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
----- Original Message -----
From: Pickett, Bruce D
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

You guys are Notorious for bad puns, aren't you?
Bruce Pickett
Federal Way, WA
'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific"
http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Couey [mailto:pcstarship@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:09 AM
To: Great Ned; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting
Lessee, you're going north by northwest, right?
 
Ralph Couey
Columbia, MO
'95 PC800  "Seishin No Yomichi"
"A life lived without risk is no life at all."
----- Original Message -----
From: Great Ned
To: Ralph Couey ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: Lee's disconnecting

 
 
Yeah, Lee, you're disconnecting alright...don't forget your medication.  By the way, I heard the owner of your hotel has a son managing the place.  Named Norman....
 
Ralph Couey
 
I chose that one because they give re-bates......
 
Lee
 
(did you chum for this and did I take the bait, or what?)

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Triumph Sprint Executive (Long) "Doug Allis" writes: > Any bike with a chain (that has to be oiled) every 300-500 miles is > NOT a tour bike, no matter how many saddle bags they stick on it. >From the ButtLite II (5000+ miles in 5 days) web site: "Mark Kiecker rode to first place on his essentially stock, chain-driven VFR800.... As partial reward for his efforts, Mark will be awarded a spot in the 2001 Ironbutt rally, courtesy of the Ironbutt Association. Mark is a tough competitor who also won Expert Class on this year's Minnesota 2000." Modern O-ring chains require very little maintenance or adjustment. I adjust the chain on my Hawk about once a year. 22,000 miles and still well inside the "worn" marking. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:37:24 EDT Subject: PC800: Two days to Eureka! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers.... The Y2K California ride is getting soooooo close! Rick Corwine from greater Minneapolis arrived yesterday (Thursday) evening safe and sound, and is spending two nights with us to rest and relax before heading south. He's already 2500 miles out, the lucky dog! Rick has a Russell seat on his '95. I had to warn him that even though we're in a good neighborhood, and his bike is parked in my locked garage, thieves are always on the lookout for Russell seats. So if anyone has a spare seat squirreled away, Rick may need one soon (wink, wink). It just depends on how sound a sleeper he is! As Willie Nelson said, so succinctly, "....on the road again...."! Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" HSTA #9479 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@dima.dhs.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:19:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Paco Solis cc: Fenwick , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Mats Is it still possible to get hondaline accessories for PC somewhere? On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Paco Solis wrote: > Got my Trunk mats today! > > Hey Rich! > BRAVO!!!!!! I like them!!!!!!! > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:38:33 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Hi I'm new on your list. To: mickc@frederickmd.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/8/00 6:49:13 AM Central Daylight Time, mickc@frederickmd.com writes: << If we WHITE a while then the rest of you will realize what the best color is Mickey 89PC "Shadowfax" >> I would have to pearlsonally agree!!! Todd Skar 89'PC 18k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI NEWPCRC (president) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:45:28 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Lee's disconnecting Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:45:28 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Pickett, Bruce D" >Please don't get into a Frenzy, but beyond a Shadow of a Doubt, you've >got >The Wrong Man. I may no longer be Young and Innocent, but I am not >the Man >Who Knew Too Much. It doesn't take a Secret Agent searching for >a Saboteur >lurking behind a Torn Curtain to realize that this is all >going Downhill. >I Confess that I have a Suspicion that this thread is >for The Birds. If >there's much more of it, I'm sure to be overcome by >Vertigo while walking >down The Thirty-Nine Steps outside my Rear Window. >Well, anyway, let's not be Strangers on a Train. I have to go now and >find >a Rope to tie some more stuff onto Blue before The Lady Vanishes >in the >morning as we depart for TGPCHPCMY2KMR. Oh, this is tooo weird! I'm sitting here leafing through some invoices at work while reading this post--and the very next invoice I pull out is for a company called North By Northwest!!!!! I'm leaving @ 2pm today after work--going as far as Yreka, CA. Riding down CA 96/299 on Saturday to Eureka; staying at a Motel 6. I'll have to leave Sunday morning, though, since it's Nan's birthday and I told her we'd go out for dinner. Oh, well, it's only a 440-mile ride. At least I'll get a chance to see a few people at the dinner Saturday night and get some pics in... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (12K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "Being President is like running a cemetery. You've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening." - President Clinton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:09:23 -0400 Subject: PC800: PC800 for Sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Someone emailed me this information so I'm passing it along to the list. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" FOR SALE --------------------------------------- Make: Honda Model: Pacific Coast 800cc Year: 1995 Description: Jet Black & Silver 2000 orignal miles garage kept mint Asking Price: $4900 suburb/town: North Potomac State: Maryland postcode-zip: 20878 E.mail: geoghb@erols.com Phone: 301-869-3437 evenings Mobile/Cell Phone: 703-602-7166 weekdays Country: USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:12:32 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Trunk Mats To: pc800@dima.dhs.org Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: yankeesmuggler@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) pc800@dima.dhs.org writes: > >Is it still possible to get hondaline accessories for PC somewhere? Your Honda dealer can order the few items that are still being offered. As far as I know that is the trunk liner bags (removable bags custom tailored to fit your trunk) and the interior trunk lights. I thought someone said they could still get the passanger backrest, but I'm not sure. I have both of the other items and they are well worth the little they cost. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: TGPCHPCMY2KMR To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu hey all you TGPCHPCMY2KMRWYSIWYGIMHOASAP'ers I want pictures darn it.... 8 x 10 glossies with a paragraph on the back of each one... :-) Ok - I'd settle for a webcam mounted on a PC800 with a wireless Internet connection. ...if you spot that Yellow "gold" wing, put "Body by Tupperware" decals on it.. Ride safe and hoist a (root)beer for those who are in spirit... Christoffer (damn proud to know you all...) --- DWilli5342@aol.com wrote: > Listers.... > > The Y2K California ride is getting soooooo close! > ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (