********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:05:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Summer Gloves and San Francisco DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > ... Please share your thoughts, observations and preferences for warm > weather riding gloves. I'm getting tired of stopping every 30 minutes > to pour the sweat out of my current gloves (yes, that's an exaggeration, > but not by much!). I've seen gloves advertised as "summer gloves", > and they seem to fall in to one of two categories: plenty cool, > virtually no protection; and plenty of protection, but not much > ventilation either. Do any of you have specific gloves that seem to > balance the two factors, or past "summer glove" purchases that you'd > steer us AWAY from? Your categories are about right, and the laws of physics don't permit many other options. I found a pair of Olympia gloves this spring that I like (sorry, I don't remember the model number). They are all black, all leather, have vented fingers, and a large slab of gel in the palm. Very comfortable, and they breath well. My wife survived a low-speed get-off a few weeks ago with some abrasion to the palms, but everything stayed together, and her hands were protected. These are definitely light protection gloves, but better than nothing. The gel palms are *very* comfortable. Another option is to look at rapelling gloves from a climbing shop. These are typically light leather (less heat absorption from the sun) and have double palms. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 06:57:49 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Air filter gasket question Hi, PC Buddies, I installed a K&N filter, which I'd just as soon get rid of because I think it is noisier (Roger, I still remember you want it). But, when I installed the K&N, the instructions told me to be SURE to remove the two gaskets from the seal of the air cleaner box (one from the top and one from the bottom). Like the idiot-brain that I am, I cheerfully threw them away. Guess what. You can't order these gaskets separately. At least that's what I was told. So, I am looking for ideas. One possibility is somebody could convince me I don't really need them. Another is that someone who installed a K&N and likes it kept their gaskets needs to free up some room in their basement. A third is that I could just live with the K&N. Maybe it isn't really louder; I'm just imagining it. Betty Lise Anderson '90 PC 13K miles (I'm a wimp) Columbus, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 07:56:20 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 07:56:17 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:10 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com I think those are the ones I have, too, but in "natural" light brown (which stain my hands a bit in natural light brown :-) Light gloves, all leather, perforated backs, velcro closures. I wish they were a little shorter, so they don't block the wind up my sleeves - I cut them shorter, myself. I think I might try the Aerostich elkskin & deerskin gloves, but I don't see any ventilated ones there. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mark Gilb Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:47:33 -0500 >For Christmas this year, my brother gave me the Tourmaster Deerskin Summer >Gloves. Double leather around thumb / palm, perforated back of hand and >fingers, velcro wrist closure. I used them on my trip to the Hoot and the >Arkansas ride, both times at well over 90 degrees. Very comfortable and I >just couldn't beat the price. They are black and do bleed some dye, but have >held up very well this summer. Believe they are less than $40 by mail. Most >larger shops carry Tourmaster so you can actually try a set on in most >cities. ( The usual disclaimers go here ) > >Mark Gilb >Arnold, Mo. >95 PC800 FAUX > >Dean Williams wrote ... > 1. Please share your thoughts, observations and preferences for warm >weather riding gloves........ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 07:57:57 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 07:57:56 -0500 (CDT) (32.101.157.189) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:57:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:59:01 -0400 From: JJC Subject: PC800: Spotted in NJ To: PC 800 List boundary="Boundary_(ID_kQpYI4+oyam+xtBwqeEefg)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_kQpYI4+oyam+xtBwqeEefg) I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 in Hopewell NJ. I was traveling = north and waved from a Blue Taurus. Anyone on the list? Joe 89 PC Shamu Bethlehem, PA --Boundary_(ID_kQpYI4+oyam+xtBwqeEefg)
I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 = in Hopewell=20 NJ.  I was traveling north and waved from a Blue Taurus.  = Anyone on=20 the list?
 
 
Joe
 
89 PC Shamu
Bethlehem,=20 PA
--Boundary_(ID_kQpYI4+oyam+xtBwqeEefg)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com 1 Aug 2000 07:22:43 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 07:22:43 -0500 (CDT) id x.57.939e54e (5710) for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:22:35 -0400 (EDT) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:22:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Free Handlebar Raiser Kit and Trunk Lit Question To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The Handlebar Raisers have been spoken for..... Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '96 PC800 "Red Rover" 20,500 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com 31 Jul 2000 23:29:09 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 23:29:09 -0500 (CDT) id q.18.4ee929 (4254); Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Cheese Days Parade September 17, 2000 To: mrgvideo@aeroinc.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Michael & Marlisa, I would like to inform you that I am interested in the cheese parade. I will check with my work schedule, I believe I am off. I have a cousin in New Glarus. I can head there Saturday and meet up with you in Monroe. You name the place and the time. I also have an 89'PC! I think it would look pretty neat having two side by side in the parade! let me know what you definate plans are. I will work on the other PC rider's here to join us! later... ps I eat breaded/ fried cheese curds by the bucket full! (Just lov'em) Todd Skar 89'PC 16k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:40:57 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:40:55 -0500 (CDT) by smtp.vci.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA10375; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:40:34 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:41:25 -0700 From: Doug Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco To: Mark Gilb , pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal I use a pair of batters gloves bought at Walmart $9.95, they already have the curve for the grips, (bat) . If you are looking for real protection, these are pretty skimpy..thin leather palm and fingers, and the backs are a stretch type material.with velcro closures at wrist,,, but, my hands never sweat in them,, Doug -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mark Gilb To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:12 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco >For Christmas this year, my brother gave me the Tourmaster Deerskin Summer >Gloves. Double leather around thumb / palm, perforated back of hand and >fingers, velcro wrist closure. I used them on my trip to the Hoot and the >Arkansas ride, both times at well over 90 degrees. Very comfortable and I >just couldn't beat the price. They are black and do bleed some dye, but have >held up very well this summer. Believe they are less than $40 by mail. Most >larger shops carry Tourmaster so you can actually try a set on in most >cities. ( The usual disclaimers go here ) > >Mark Gilb >Arnold, Mo. >95 PC800 FAUX > >Dean Williams wrote ... > 1. Please share your thoughts, observations and preferences for warm >weather riding gloves........ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:10:22 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:10:21 -0500 (CDT) 31 Jul 2000 20:10:20 -0700 01 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:10:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Philips Wong Subject: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[064ABAE0:01BFFB66] Hi gang, After discussed with Henry on aftermarket taller shields, he doesn't like the exposed screws and the 2 pieces design of the Rifle, and the aging problem on the HONDALINE tallshield terrified him, he goes for a Clearview. The problem is when he tried to approach the manufacturer on www.plastic-man.com, they seemed don't know what PC800 is and ended up with turning down his order. Was he going to a wrong website that happened to have the same name Clearview? Where you guys got your Clearview and how much? Please reply either to me or Henry or simply post to list, thanks! - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Long Service Medal - 2000 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 21 Chinese Water Dragons ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:10:35 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:10:35 -0500 (CDT) (166.72.213.143) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:34:08 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:35:16 -0400 From: JJC Subject: PC800: Spooted PC To: PC 800 List boundary="Boundary_(ID_hzzoBynP1AFmk4te0FUC2A)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_hzzoBynP1AFmk4te0FUC2A) I spotted another PC going south on RT. 31 in Hopewell NJ. I was = traveling north and waved from a Blue Taurus. Anyone on the list? Joe 89 PC Shamu Bethlehem, PA --Boundary_(ID_hzzoBynP1AFmk4te0FUC2A)
I spotted another PC going south on RT. = 31 in=20 Hopewell NJ.  I was traveling north and waved from a Blue = Taurus. =20 Anyone on the list?
 
 
Joe
 
89 PC Shamu
Bethlehem, = PA
--Boundary_(ID_hzzoBynP1AFmk4te0FUC2A)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:11:54 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:11:53 -0500 (CDT) id UAA08801; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:21:25 -0700 (MST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 100 20:21:24 +1700 (MST) From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Air horns vs electric To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast) In an earlier email to me PC800 Rider said: > > [ ... ] We do have drive by shootings of innocent pedestrians > on occasion in Rochester and Syracuse, does that count? > You're definitely on a slippery slope, Tim. :-) -- Regards, Alex, kx9i 98 PC800 Kazesan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 23:08:58 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 23:08:57 -0500 (CDT) by mx01.together.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA04073 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:49:49 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 -0400 From: "John T. Quinn" Subject: PC800: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: jtq@together.net Hi Everyone, As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about it? John Quinn PC 800 1990 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:16:33 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:16:32 -0500 (CDT) id A2ABB3080144; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:23:23 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:16:22 -0400 From: "Michael D. Linkous" Subject: PC800: Summer Gloves To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal <003801bffb62$d8d57da0$c7ed94ce@h74678> I like my Olympia Gel gloves.... they have a layer of "Gel" right in that crutial place in the palm... I have tried riding w/ and w/o. My right hand does not tingle and go numb NEARLY as bad. My hands did not sweat that much where it was noticible or uncomfortable. They make several different styles too! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:16:50 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:16:46 -0500 (CDT) (tnt8-216-180-71-86.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.71.86]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e713Gij20805 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:16:44 -0500 (CDT) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA99324 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:16:41 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:16:41 -0500 From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: 7th anual Al-Tn Trail of Tears Ride, Sept 16 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Might be nice to have a good PC showing among the loud pipe Hardleys this year. Maybe we should all meet in advance and remove our mufflers? Bring earplugs, you'll need them. :-( http://www.al-tn-trailoftears.org/ http://www.al-tn-trailoftears.org/navigator-webtv/history/ride.html says: > By 1999 the 6th Annual Commemorative Ride began with 15,00 > motorcycles and ended with a reported 35,000 motorcycles pulling > into Waterloo at ride's end - making this event the largest > organized motorcycle ride in history. The ride is about 210 miles, police escorted the whole way. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 31 Jul 2000 22:23:56 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 31 Jul 2000 22:23:55 -0500 (CDT) (166.72.213.143) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:50:13 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:51:21 -0400 From: JJC Subject: PC800: Spotted PC In NJ To: PC 800 List boundary="Boundary_(ID_PhgSigwNr+9q1HjitrPb0w)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_PhgSigwNr+9q1HjitrPb0w) Sorry for the typo last memo was Spooted instead of Spotted got to stop = writing when I'm tired!! I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 in Hopewell NJ. I was traveling = north and waved from a Blue Taurus. Anyone on the list? Joe 89 PC Shamu Bethlehem, PA --Boundary_(ID_PhgSigwNr+9q1HjitrPb0w)
Sorry for the typo last memo was = Spooted instead of=20 Spotted got to stop writing when I'm tired!!
 
 
I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 = in Hopewell=20 NJ.  I was traveling north and waved from a Blue Taurus.  = Anyone on=20 the list?
 
 
Joe
 
89 PC Shamu
Bethlehem,=20 PA
--Boundary_(ID_PhgSigwNr+9q1HjitrPb0w)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:34:34 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: GuntherSki@aol.com, dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: PC800: Garmin eMap Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu GuntherSki@aol.com writes: > dkelly@hiwaay.net writes: > > << http://home.hiwaay.net/~dkelly/pc800-gps.jpg >> > so David, do you have the GPS III plus.... the III ..... or the e-trax? > > And how do you like what you have? Its a III+ and I have the MapSource Roads and Recreation CD. Prior to the III+ I had (still have) one of the first 12XL's without map or upgradeable firmware. Took a while to get used to the III+. Then it has been interesting to go back to the 12XL. The III+ is a major improvement. I like it. Its waterproof and tough. Need to break down and run power to it from the PC. Right now I run it off batteries. It gets only 4 or 5 hours from a set of 1600 mA NiMH batteries, or 24 hours from a set of new AA alkaline. Silly thing actually has a battery timer and battery voltage display. Friends have Color Street Pilots. Nice. Maybe too much of a distraction. Suck batteries like a Democrat spends tax dollars. I have the optional mount for the II/III family. Makes for fairly easy removal with only one big thumbscrew. The Street Pilot comes with a quick disconnect mount. Cleaner operation but doesn't seem to be as secure. Once you've had a GPS its hard to drive anywhere without one. I turn mine on every day for the commute to/from work. The III+ has a trip odometer, and also has an overall milage odometer just like a car. My III+ has just shy of 10k miles on it the past year. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 06:49:53 -0700 Hi John-- I have the Ouray jacket from Roadgear and I like it a lot. Gave it to my son and conned him back out of it (His dad looked silly in a squiddish multicolor leather jacket, he thought, so he was eager to swap). I ordered a pair of pants from Tourmaster, announced it here, and was promptly told I would not like them and why (stupidly designed velcro closures at the cuff, and we PCers need an intelligent one) and just as promptly cancelled the order. The pants came anyway last week, and the List was right, and they went right back. If they don't pay my freight for their mistake, you, dear reader, will hear about it. Meantime (also per list recommendation) ordered the Motoport pants, quick delivery, too small, so am waiting for backorder mid August. I am an average guy about to own my first XL anything. My getoff was at intown speeds but I wish I had had padding. I landed on my side and bruised my hip bone and separated my shoulder. Both points of impact would have been less severe if I had been wearing padding. I was fortunately wearing a heavy leather BMW riding suit, but I am beginning to think that padding is more important than I used to think. We share lots of differing opinions here, and surely garb is very heavy on the personal preference side of things, but the input I got was spot on for me. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in > street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? Yeah, I think they all should be carrying tweezers so they can practice pulling gravel out of their skin. Riding a motorcycle while not wearing skin protection is like slicing a watermelon in a darkened round steel room using a chainsaw operated with one's feet. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Michael D. Linkous" , Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 06:51:06 -0700 Michael, are these a motorcycle accessory? Mail order source? Lee > I like my Olympia Gel gloves.... they have a layer of "Gel" right in that > crutial place in the palm... I have tried riding w/ and w/o. My right hand > does not tingle and go numb NEARLY as bad. My hands did not sweat that much > where it was noticible or uncomfortable. They make several different styles > too! > > -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com 1 Aug 2000 02:00:33 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 02:00:32 -0500 (CDT) id x.db.7a380e4 (8479) for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Re: Re: Road Rage To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 7/31/00 10:13:59 PM Central Daylight Time, pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: << I can't remember the last time, if ever, there was mention of armed road rage. It's always been a California city thing, >> Ho! You oughta spend some time in Omaha. Road rage has become quite the thing, here on the prairie. There seem to be news stories every week that involve drivers taking shots at one another on the streets. And to be honest.... I can _really_ understand the feeling, sometimes. It seems as if there are more and more _horrifying_ drivers on the road each day. A few days back, as I was stopped, preperatory to turning out of street that fronts my apartment, a late model Taurus hurtled into view on the side street, barrelling right at me- doing at least double the posted limit- with _no_ visible driver. I backed up a few paces, but there was literally no where for me to take the bike that would have gotten it out of the car's path. I dropped the kickstand and angled myself to leap off to one side- figuring to save my life, if not the bike. Just as I was about to leap, a head came up out of the passenger seat, and the driver yanked the wheel, careening past me at about a foot's worth of distance, veering from side to side as he blasted down the street, struggling for control. I was _shaking_ with rage, at this point, grinding my teeth. Worse, as this Martian passed me, he FLIPPED ME OFF! I sat in the intersection, watching him lurching off... Wondering about judicial sympathy. Today, as I drove to an interview, I was surrounded by no signalling random lane changing traffic. No concern, no consideration, and no reason for the lane changes. I don't even think that these people were concious _of_ their drifting. They were listening to the radio, chatting with a passenger... Noticed that the old mini-van had-somehow- ended up more in the right lane than the left, and just eased on over. At 65 mph. The SO thinks that I seek out relatively unused side routes because I like looking at the scenery as I ride. I do, but at this point, I think that anything that gets me away from traffic is self preservation. Time _was_ that you had to pass a test to get a liscence. <> Kendall 95 PC, Xena. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 02:15:03 -0500 (CDT) (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 02:15:03 -0500 (CDT) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA12889; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:14:57 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:15:25 -0700 From: Paco Solis Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco To: "Talago, Stan" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal I don't know if anyone has commented on these but I found a pair of gloves that works great for summer riding. They are marketed by Mechanix and are called M-Pact. They were originally designed for Pit Crews. They fit great and breath well. Some areas of the gloves are kevlar reinforced and some have guards that resemble Dirt Bike or BMX gloves. All areas of the gloves are triple stitched. You can wash them in the washer and they hold there stitches and color. I've been using mine for about a year now and they show very little wear. They run about $35 and are the most comfortable gloves I have tried so far. You can also pick up a dime or your 2 cents with them. Or anyone else's two cents. :-) MORTTIS 89' PC Paco and Wendy Solis DSL Baby! We are always on! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Talago, Stan Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco > > >DWilli5342@aol.com wrote: > >> Listers.... >> >> Two Questions: >> >> 1. Please share your thoughts, observations and preferences for warm weather >> riding gloves. I'm getting tired of stopping every 30 minutes to pour the >> sweat out of my current gloves (yes, that's an exaggeration, but not by >> much!). I've seen gloves advertised as "summer gloves", and they seem to >> fall in to one of two categories: plenty cool, virtually no protection; and >> plenty of protection, but not much ventilation either. Do any of you have >> specific gloves that seem to balance the two factors, or past "summer glove" >> purchases that you'd steer us AWAY from? >> > >I have used gloves for many years for many applications. I have found that a >glove made for a specific segment of the population can surely cross over into >another. Such is the case of the modern motocross glove. I use an AXO motocross >glove for warm street riding. It doesn't bunch up in the palm of your hand & is >quite cool in the really hot weather. There are many other brands that will do >just as well. JT Racing, Fox, No Fear, O Neal are just a few that come to mind. >Many colors are available also. I size my gloves to be as tight as possible, >without restricting circulation & movement. A good test is with the glove on, >can you pick op a nickel? A dime is even a greater challenge. >My .02 cents worth...... >Stan >98 PC 800 > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:21:39 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:21:34 -0500 (CDT) by mail.tyler.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:19:42 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:20:53 -0500 From: Steve Wilson Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? To: Philips Wong , pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://www.clearviewshields.com/index.htm Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" > up with turning down his order. Was he going to a wrong website > that happened to have the same name Clearview? Where you guys got > your Clearview and how much? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:36:04 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:35:58 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 06:35:58 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield To: Revill Dunn Cc: PC800 --- Revill Dunn wrote: > > The biggest and unresolved problem with the > clearview is the brake lever. The > windshield ALMOST interferes with it. Put a finger > into the mix and you've > locked the front brake in a full lock turn. I replaced my +3 with a +5 and they have narrowed the bottom quite a bit. The top is wider then the +3. I didn't measure anything but it's an inch or more on either side for the bottom and the same thing for the top. Are you doing a full hand grab when you brake? I brake with my index and middle fingers and have no problem with the shield. Unless I have my hand slide toward the outside. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:55:46 -0700 From: "Irene Frost" X-Sent-Mail: off Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! X-Sender-Ip: 170.160.9.3 Content-Language: en I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, gloves and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. I have had a 30 MPH get-off wearing the jacket and jeans. No damage to the upper torso at all with the jacket, torn and bloody knee without the leather pants. I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over 100 degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The memory of my sore knee keeps me geared up. Actually, never is too strong a word. If I am running to the store a few blocks away I won't wear the leather pants and will just go with jacket and jeans. But if there is any highway at all, or speeds over 30ish then every thing goes on. Irene Frost '94 "Gazelle" Portland, Oregon -- On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 John T. Quinn wrote: >Hi Everyone, > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about >it? > >John Quinn >PC 800 1990 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:03:10 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Philips Wong" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:20:42 -0500 Philips, I just got mine at my local dealer. He gave me a 15% discount and got it to me in two days. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Philips Wong To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? > Hi gang, > > After discussed with Henry on aftermarket taller shields, he doesn't > like the exposed screws and the 2 pieces design of the Rifle, and the > aging problem on the HONDALINE tallshield terrified him, he goes for > a Clearview. > > The problem is when he tried to approach the manufacturer on > www.plastic-man.com, they seemed don't know what PC800 is and ended > up with turning down his order. Was he going to a wrong website > that happened to have the same name Clearview? Where you guys got > your Clearview and how much? > > Please reply either to me or Henry or simply post to list, thanks! > > > - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI > Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) > Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 > Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Long Service Medal - 2000 > GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider > 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red > 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 > The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 21 Chinese Water Dragons > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Cheese Days Parade September 17, 2000 To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com, mrgvideo@aeroinc.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Todd and Michael and Marlisa... that sounds like fun. It's what weekend in September? We have a committment on some Sunday's in Sept....we'll see, but sounds like fun! Paul in Green Bay Sargeant at Arms, NEWIPCOC --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > Michael & Marlisa, > I would like to inform you that I am interested in the cheese > parade. I > will check with my work schedule, I believe I am off. I have a cousin > in New > Glarus. I can head there Saturday and meet up with you in Monroe. You > name > the place and the time. I also have an 89'PC! I think it would look > pretty > neat having two side by side in the parade! let me know what you > definate > plans are. I will work on the other PC rider's here to join us! > later... > ps I eat breaded/ fried cheese curds by the bucket full! (Just > lov'em) > Todd Skar > 89'PC 16k > "Poseidon" > Green Bay, WI > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 18:02:05 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 17:53:05 -0500 (CDT) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) 01 Aug 2000 15:53:05 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:52:59 -0500 From: Ralph Couey Subject: Re: PC800: Spotted PC In NJ To: JJC , PC 800 List boundary="Boundary_(ID_PUacaf03wsEQfmqK/19Eog)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_PUacaf03wsEQfmqK/19Eog) I spoot my '95 several times a year. It's how you upgrade the autolean = software. --Ralph ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JJC=20 To: PC 800 List=20 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: PC800: Spotted PC In NJ Sorry for the typo last memo was Spooted instead of Spotted got to = stop writing when I'm tired!! =20 =20 I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 in Hopewell NJ. I was = traveling north and waved from a Blue Taurus. Anyone on the list? Joe 89 PC Shamu Bethlehem, PA --Boundary_(ID_PUacaf03wsEQfmqK/19Eog)
I spoot my '95 several times a = year.  It's how=20 you upgrade the autolean software.
 
--Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 JJC
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 = 7:51 PM
Subject: PC800: Spotted PC In = NJ

Sorry for the typo last memo was = Spooted instead=20 of Spotted got to stop writing when I'm tired!!
 
 
I spotted Red PC going south on RT. = 31 in=20 Hopewell NJ.  I was traveling north and waved from a Blue = Taurus. =20 Anyone on the list?
 
 
Joe
 
89 PC Shamu
Bethlehem,=20 PA
--Boundary_(ID_PUacaf03wsEQfmqK/19Eog)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 15:13:37 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 15:12:55 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:12:37 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:10:02 -0700 From: Robert H Walton Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear! To: "'irene.frost@hotbot.com'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Hi Irene, Good to hear from someone else in the Portland area. Are you going to the Tupperware Party next month? Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Irene Frost [SMTP:irene.frost@hotbot.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:56 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, gloves and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. I have had a 30 MPH get-off wearing the jacket and jeans. No damage to the upper torso at all with the jacket, torn and bloody knee without the leather pants. I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over 100 degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The memory of my sore knee keeps me geared up. Actually, never is too strong a word. If I am running to the store a few blocks away I won't wear the leather pants and will just go with jacket and jeans. But if there is any highway at all, or speeds over 30ish then every thing goes on. Irene Frost '94 "Gazelle" Portland, Oregon -- On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 John T. Quinn wrote: >Hi Everyone, > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about >it? > >John Quinn >PC 800 1990 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 15:20:03 -0500 (CDT) (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:19:04 -0500 (CDT) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e71KIrp160326; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:18:53 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams Subject: PC800: I Just Bought a pair of "Summer" gloves To: DWilli5342@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu To Dean, et.al.; I just bought a pair of gloves advertised as "summer" gloves. I got them on e-bay for $20.01 (it was a dutch auction and only two of us bid.) I received them in the mail only yesterday. They're made by OSI and look pretty decent. They're black leather-like on the tops and palms with a knitted mesh along the sides of each finger and the outer sides of the hands. The palms also have some padding. It's been plenty hot down here in Southern California, so I should be able to give them a proper "test". I haven't read any of the other posts yet, but if anyone wants my observations after a week or so, just let me know... ..."Darth" Beau ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: July 31, 2000 3:22:04 PM GMT Subject: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco Listers.... Two Questions: 1. Please share your thoughts, observations and preferences for warm weather riding gloves. I'm getting tired of stopping every 30 minutes to pour the sweat out of my current gloves (yes, that's an exaggeration, but not by much!). I've seen gloves advertised as "summer gloves", and they seem to fall in to one of two categories: plenty cool, virtually no protection; and plenty of protection, but not much ventilation either. Do any of you have specific gloves that seem to balance the two factors, or past "summer glove" purchases that you'd steer us AWAY from? 2. I'm headed out on the Y2K Pacific Coast Highway ride in September, and have made all my hotel reservations except for the Tuesday night, September 12th stop in Pacifica, in the San Francisco bay area. Without exception, EVERY hotel I've contacted is either 'no vacancy' already, or is higher than every other reservation I've made by about 150%. Any listers in that neck of the woods, if you have any suggestions for reasonable lodging within 10-15 miles of Pacifica, I'd appreciate it your tips. Also, I'm NOT angling for a residence to stay in. Just looking for something more reasonable than I've found so far. Maybe we'll just have to bite the bullet and pay the high bucks, but I'd rather just rent the room for the night, instead of buying part of the building! Thanks to all of you, as always, for your help and words of wisdom. Dean Williams Springfield, OR '98 PC800 "Nata Harli / Nora Beemer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 14:57:47 -0500 (CDT) (www0p.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.45]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 14:56:57 -0500 (CDT) web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Tue Aug 1 19:56:52 GMT 2000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:56:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Russell-Wood Subject: PC800: PC 800 Sighting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I saw two PC 800s on July 26, headed North on Route 31 outside of Petoske= y on Michigan's Upper Peninsula. I was in a cab and unable to wave. The lead b= ike was Candy Apple Red, closely followed by a 1957 Chevy Green. Jeff Wessel,= was that you and your wife on your Lake Michigan circumnavigation? Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, Maryland = ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 13:37:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 13:15:31 -0500 (CDT) by ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13164 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:15:27 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:13:31 -0700 From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Irene Frost, in her wisdom, sez: >I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over >100 degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The >memory of my sore knee keeps me geared up. > Irene, you are not alone! I NEVER got without all the gear including the pants. People ask me aren't I hot, and I say "yes." I still think it beats the alternative. What helps in really hot weather is to saturate your teeshirt and put it on under the leather jacket. It keeps you cool for about an hour, which is one hour less of hot, and reduces the hospital stay by the same amount as a dry teeshirt under a leather jacket. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 13:14:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 13:11:28 -0500 (CDT) by neonova.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1) with SMTP id 27333425 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:11:09 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:12:11 -0700 From: Gene Royal Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_BrgONU2Qmm1CSYDxP9SHMw)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_BrgONU2Qmm1CSYDxP9SHMw) Do any of you know of floorboards for a PC? I am having to have a = modified shifter fabricated for me because My left leg is artificial. = I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as "heel" "heel" = rather than "heel - toe." Pstrgene@volcano.net --Boundary_(ID_BrgONU2Qmm1CSYDxP9SHMw)
Do any of you know of floorboards for a = PC?  I=20 am having to have a modified shifter fabricated for me because My left = leg is=20 artificial.  I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as = "heel"=20 "heel" rather than "heel - toe."
 
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--Boundary_(ID_BrgONU2Qmm1CSYDxP9SHMw)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 12:50:49 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 12:49:38 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: irene.frost@hotbot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Irene, I'm with you. I wear my Darien Jacket 99.9 percent of the time, with a jean shirt the other percent of the time if it gets REALLY hot. If it gets that hot, though..I tend not to ride. I feel better psychologically in my jacket and overpants. I talked to a friend of mine who is a nun, and in this conversation, I told her that I hoped Heaven would be a place where I could ride my bike w/out hot clothes and a helmet. But, here on hearth, I wear my jacket all the time, and my over pants most of the time and my helmet ALL the time! Paul in Green Bay 96 PC --- Irene Frost wrote: > I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, > gloves and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. > > I have had a 30 MPH get-off wearing the jacket and jeans. No damage > to the upper torso at all with the jacket, torn and bloody knee > without the leather pants. > > I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over > 100 degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The > memory of my sore knee keeps me geared up. > > Actually, never is too strong a word. If I am running to the store a > few blocks away I won't wear the leather pants and will just go with > jacket and jeans. But if there is any highway at all, or speeds over > 30ish then every thing goes on. > > Irene Frost > '94 "Gazelle" > Portland, Oregon > > -- > > On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 John T. Quinn wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if > any > >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on > the > >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed > in > >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've > been > >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from > Road > >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell > about > >it? > > > >John Quinn > >PC 800 1990 > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > HotBot - Search smarter. > http://www.hotbot.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com 1 Aug 2000 14:28:06 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 13:54:50 -0500 (CDT) id x.66.6199c0d (4247) for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Re: Summer Gloves (followup) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Thanks to all of you who've responded with suggestions for hot weather riding gloves. Stan Talago wrote I've come across several of the motocross gloves, all of which appear to be built to be much cooler than a standard "street bike" glove, but my concern there remains with the abrasion resistance of a motocross glove. I really hope that all of you can respond with a resounding "NO" to this question, but.... have any of you gone down on a bike on pavement with a motocross glove on, and what observations about their protection might you have? It seems that the requirements for protection out in the hills are different from the abrasion resistance on hot asphalt. I appreciate Stan's input, but I'd rather have sweaty hands with the skin intact than.....well, you get the picture. Thanks again to all you folks who've responded. This list is a wonderful thing! Dean Williams Springfield, OR '98 PC800 Nata Harli -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 12:19:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 12:17:43 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Spotted in NJ To: JJC , PC 800 List I was in a Red PC and waved at a Blue Taurus..anyone on the list?! (just kidding!) --- JJC wrote: > I spotted Red PC going south on RT. 31 in Hopewell NJ. I was > traveling north and waved from a Blue Taurus. Anyone on the list? > > > Joe > > 89 PC Shamu > Bethlehem, PA > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 12:17:58 -0500 (CDT) (wwcst268.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.13]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 12:08:01 -0500 (CDT) web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Tue Aug 1 17:07:50 GMT 2000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Russell-Wood Subject: PC800: PC 800 Sighting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I saw 2 PC 800s on July 26, headed North on Route 31 in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, just outside of Petoskey. Candy Apple Red in the lead, '57 Che= vy Green close behind. Couldn't wave because I was stuck in a taxi cab. Jeff= Wessel, was that you on a Lake Michigan circumnavigation? = Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, Maryland ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 11:25:48 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 11:25:35 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id LAA06084 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:41 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id LAA12883 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:41 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19869 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:30 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19862 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:14 -0500 (CDT) id LAA08262 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:13 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:24:13 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear, and Road Rage <"Re: PC800: Riding Gear!"@Post-Office.UH.EDU> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Aug 1, 8:55am, Irene Frost wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, gloves and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. > Good for you! I can't claim to be that careful. I use my scoot daily, and I "try" to wear a leather jacket when I can stand to be in it, which in Texas is about 6 months of the year. I am often guilty of riding in shorts, tshirt and sandals. And a helmet; I'm not a complete idiot. I was once lectured at a stoplight by a Harleyite, who was wearing a leather coat, leather pants, leather gloves, and a rag on his head. Well, he knows which parts are important to him. It's been since 1980 that I've had a serious get off. Broke a collarbone in that one, plus the usual scrapes & etc. Since then I've been rear ended twice, but was lucky (and had taken self preservation measures) both times and was not injured. I know, I'm going to regret it someday. When are they going to come up with air conditioners for PC's? On Road Rage in Texas, I live in Austin and while we have terrible traffic, I have never seen anyone else (not including myself) get terribly angry about driving. We have influxes of "furriners" (people who have not lived in Austin at least a few years) who bring terrible habits from Houston and LA and such places. Changing lanes without looking, passing on the shoulder, using turn lanes to cut in ahead of the line at traffic lights, fifth and sixth car to run the red light, that sort of thing. I've often been very glad that bazookas are not legal in traffic, because if I had one there would be burnt spots at most of the major intersections. Think of the legal expenses! The home of this sort of driving seems to be the West Coast. As I was travelling through LA recently, I saw this sort of stuff almost every minute. Not to mention "lane sharing" motorcycles, a stunt so stupid that everyone who ever does such a thing should be fitted for a shroud. They'll need it soon enough. Kinda makes body armor pretty sensible. But who can stand it in 92 degrees and 95% humidity? Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 09:26:34 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 09:26:30 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 07:26:28 -0700 01 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: The final name list for now To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[7ACC89D0:01BFFBC4] >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Great Ned >Here is the list to date, alphabetized. Oh, wow, the Stealthmobile is crushed! And I thought I hurt her feelings when I bought the ST. She's feeling like a non-entity...! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BHerndon@morningstar-group.com 1 Aug 2000 09:29:13 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 09:29:06 -0500 (CDT) JAA02954; Tue Aug 1 09:29:06 2000 mail.morningstar-group.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8625692E.004FE793 ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 09:32:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 09:28:09 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Travelcade Saddlegel To: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: inline Steven, I bought the Saddlegel from Travelcade thru JC Whitney. I used it on a few trips and found that it did not help much. It made the pressure points on my tailbone even more pronounced than before. I rode with a friend from Dallas to Texarkana which is about 180 miles and I put the pad in the trunk after about 50 miles. Anyway, it did not work out for me. I returned it to JC Whitney with no problems. A suggestion...before spending $300 to $400 on a new seat, I would try out a beaded seat cover. I ordered one from Whitehorse Press on the internet and have been using it for a couple of months. Big improvement. It keeps you cool as you ride because it allows air to flow underneath you while you ride. It also makes it easier to adjust your seating position if you get a little uncomfortable. I am taking a long trip in Septemper so until then, I can only say that for trips up to 2 hours, I have been very pleased. It's about $25 or so with shipping and I feel that it is worth it. You can bungee the thing to your seat(bungee cords and hooks are included) or you can run the bungees under the seat pan for a permanent install. If this doesn't work for you then you might want to try a Corbin or Russell replacement seat. The folks on the list that have them rave about both. The web site is www.whitehorsepress.com. Hope this helps. Good luck in your search. Brad Herndon '98 PC800 'Keister Rotundus' Mesquite, TX Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com on 07/31/2000 05:59:50 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: Brad Herndon/MSTAR-DAL/Mstar/Suizafoods) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Travelcade Saddlegel Does anyone have the SaddleGel from Travelcade on their PC800? The person who I purchased my bike from had removed some of the foam from the seat, and I am noticing that I am getting Sore-Butt-Syndrome. I am looking at the saddlegel pad. I have found it locally for $69.00, and orderable via Chaparrel for $50.00 (though they don't know how long it will take to get them in). Before shelling out this money, I need to know if they are worth the price. I tried it on my bike, though I didn't ride with it on. I am concerned that I will just end up trading one pressure point for new pressure points. Thanks in advance Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:48:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:48:41 -0500 (CDT) by slave1.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA30815; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:48:38 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:54:04 -0700 From: Will Edwards Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? To: Philips Wong , pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal Hi Philips, You can purchase Clearview shields from Sports Touring Accessories: http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ Or purchase directly from Clearview at: http://www.clearviewshields.com/ Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Philips Wong >After discussed with Henry on aftermarket taller shields, he doesn't >like the exposed screws and the 2 pieces design of the Rifle, and the >aging problem on the HONDALINE tallshield terrified him, he goes for >a Clearview. >The problem is when he tried to approach the manufacturer on >www.plastic-man.com, they seemed don't know what PC800 is and ended >up with turning down his order. Was he going to a wrong website >that happened to have the same name Clearview? Where you guys got >your Clearview and how much? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:56:18 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:56:06 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 06:56:06 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Summer Gloves and San Francisco To: DWilli5342@aol.com Cc: PC800 --- DWilli5342@aol.com wrote: > Listers.... > > Two Questions: > > 1. Please share your thoughts, observations and > preferences for warm weather > riding gloves. I'm getting tired of stopping every > 30 minutes to pour the > sweat out of my current gloves (yes, that's an > exaggeration, but not by > much!). I've seen gloves advertised as "summer > gloves", and they seem to > fall in to one of two categories: plenty cool, > virtually no protection; and > plenty of protection, but not much ventilation > either. Do any of you have > specific gloves that seem to balance the two > factors, or past "summer glove" > purchases that you'd steer us AWAY from? > I have a pair of Teknic gloves that is peferated on the sides of the fingers. This glove does have a gaunlet type wrist area. I have only riding in the 80 degree MN humid weather and they work rather well. Hold them in the air stream and you can feel the wind blowing through them. I also have a pair of Olympia summer gloves but the back of the gloves would leave zero protection since it is nothing more then a nylon mesh. I wear the Teknic. > 2. I'm headed out on the Y2K Pacific Coast Highway > ride in September, and > have made all my hotel reservations except for the > Tuesday night, September > 12th stop in Pacifica, in the San Francisco bay > area. Without exception, > EVERY hotel I've contacted is either 'no vacancy' > already, or is higher than > every other reservation I've made by about 150%. > Any listers in that neck > of the woods, if you have any suggestions for > reasonable lodging within 10-15 > miles of Pacifica, I'd appreciate it your tips. > I just made a reservation with Choice Hotels. (Quality, Comfort, Econo Lodge) $78.40 at Comfort Inn 650-952-3200. This is in Millbrae which is five miles from Pacifica. http://www.hotelchoice.com/ If you sign up through the internet this room would be $88. You get a 10% discount. I am a member of the HSTA which supplies a 20% discount at these hotels. http://www.ridehsta.com/ I also signed up for the Choice Hotels Guest Privilege program. This cost you nothing but for every dollar you spend it's good for points towards a free room and such. You also get free upgrades and a USA Today paper at your door every morning or the local paper. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:57:13 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:57:10 -0500 (CDT) by slave1.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA31841; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:57:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:02:33 -0700 From: Will Edwards Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: jtq@together.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal I wear a First Gear leather jacket with Tour Master Cortech riding pants almost all the time. I have experience getting off the bike at 50-55 MPH wearing only jeans, boots, tee shirt and helmet, and another time when wearing full leathers. The first time I had road rash all over my back, side, arms, stomach plus the dislocated shoulder and broken wrist and minor foot injury. The second time with the leathers I received some bumps and bruises but lost no skin at all, and that was on a steel grated bridge deck. I should add that the first time the temperature was in the 90's, the second time the temperature was in the 50's with a steady rain falling. Buy the Darin or something similar to it. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John T. Quinn > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about >it? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 08:56:43 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 08:56:36 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA11427 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:35 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA18319 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:35 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13798 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:24 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13784 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:09 -0500 (CDT) id IAA06812 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:07 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:56:07 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? <"PC800: Clearview - where to buy?"@amdext2.amd.com> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I bought mine through Sport Touring Accessories. Or you can call Clearview at (800) 798-6089. I bet Honda of Milpitas can help too. Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby On Aug 1, 3:10am, Philips Wong wrote: > Subject: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? > Hi gang, > > After discussed with Henry on aftermarket taller shields, he doesn't > like the exposed screws and the 2 pieces design of the Rifle, and the > aging problem on the HONDALINE tallshield terrified him, he goes for > a Clearview. > > The problem is when he tried to approach the manufacturer on > www.plastic-man.com, they seemed don't know what PC800 is and ended > up with turning down his order. Was he going to a wrong website > that happened to have the same name Clearview? Where you guys got > your Clearview and how much? > > Please reply either to me or Henry or simply post to list, thanks! > > > - Philips Wong, de VR2XVI > Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) > Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 > Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Long Service Medal - 2000 > GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider > 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red > 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 > The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 21 Chinese Water Dragons > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Philips Wong -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 12:00:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 11:58:16 -0500 (CDT) by smtpgw2.turner.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e71GwFV25993; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:58:10 -0400 From: "Lockridge, Rick " Subject: RE: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'irene.frost@hotbot.com'" About 3 months ago, I was going exactly 30mph when a pickup truck, entering the intersection from the opposite direction, decided to make a left-hand turn across my path. He gunned his engine, then, an instant later, saw me and slammed on his brakes (or I might not be writing this today). I reacted viscerally, not with my head, took the bike down hard right and slid completely through the intersection, my right leg under the bike, my left leg over it. Anyone who tells you time slows down in such instances is crazy. It all happened so fast that I was skidding on the ground before my brain had time to register what my body had already done. I tell myself now that it is unlikely I could have zigzagged around the truck while staying upright, but in my heart I know mine was a panicky reaction. (The grille of that oncoming pickup truck looked about 3 stories tall!) Still, I wish I'd handled it better. Anyway, because I was riding a small sport bike (and not my current PC, thank goodness!) I didn't suffer much damage. The Ninja 250r was another story; it was scarred along its entire right side to the tune of $2400. I was wearing a heavy denim jacket and heavy canvas pants, leather boots and thick leather gloves, even though it was an 85-degree day here in Atlanta. My pants were shredded in a couple of places but they did a good job; my skin was not broken. The jacket held up fine, it wasn't even abraded all the way through. I had a couple of bruises but nothing serious. There were gouges in my helmet (although I don't remember my head touching the ground) and the bike's various protrusions dug several long furrows in the asphalt which are still there today. The accident must have looked pretty impressive to the onlookers who were there (that intersection has a convenience store, a bar and a video-rental place so there were plenty of people around). I just remember that I was seriously P****D OFF by the time I was in mid-skid. I actually remember waiting for my body to stop sliding so I could go get the guy who almost hit me! I jumped up and wanted to tear the door off his pickup truck. I didn't know if I was hurt or not--I didn't care. My adrenaline was really pumping. I wouldn't feel any pain until many minutes later. But when I jumped up and headed for the pickup, I couldn't get my helmet off. I was yelling so loud my facemask was fogging up. I didn't think to just flip the visor up; instead I yanked at my D-rings, which didn't do any good at all, of course. By the time I finally DID get my helmet off, I was already getting my temper under control. I don't think the other driver ever actually heard any of the descriptive language I had used while evaluating his driving, his truck, and him, just moments earlier! As it turned out, he and his insurance company were terrific (how often is THAT the case?). They took care of everything. I responded by showing up in traffic court to try to help him defend himself against a charge of failure to yield. (He said he hadn't seen me, and since he has a motorcycle license himself, and since his company had already paid for all the damage, I figured he shouldn't have to get any points). The judge found him guilty anyway but suspended the fine and the points. To those of you who would wonder why I would try to help the other driver avoid paying a penalty for his negligence, I have to say, I doubt I would have done it if he hadn't been a motorcyclist. Most of the time, I am all for punishing drivers who aren't paying sufficient attention. One of my recent stories here at CNN was on drivers who chat on their cellphones while in traffic--and just how much they pose a threat to other drivers--especially motorcyclists. I'd be interested to hear what the rest of you think about that. Most other industrialized countries have already banned or severely restricted the use of handheld phones by drivers, but here in the U.S. of A. we like to have our freedoms, and we especially don't like anybody to tell us to shut up! : ) After that accident, you'd think I would be smart enough to always wear my armored Kevlar jacket and Draggin Jeans and workboots, but (and I know this is a thin excuse to many), it's just too dang hot here in Atlanta sometimes for all of that. When I can wear it all, I do--like today, for example. 73 degrees this morning, so I geared up all the way. It sure feels safer. Rick Lockridge CNN Technology Correspondent Atlanta, GA USA (404) 827-3147 97 PC800 "idyllic acrylic" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:31:31 CDT >From: Betty Lise Anderson Irene Frost, in her wisdom, sez: >>I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over 100 >>degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The memory of >>my sore knee keeps me geared up. >> > >Irene, you are not alone! I NEVER got without all the gear including the >pants. People ask me aren't I hot, and I say "yes." I still think it beats >the alternative. Have you ever noticed the "uniform" that most riders wear ? The squid uniform usually consists of shorts, tee or tank top, low top shoes without socks, sometimes jeans if the weather is cool and the helmet is optional wear. The average Harley rider doesn't do a lot better than the squid. I would say their uniform is a mix of leather, denim, bandana's and plastic helmets made from recycled Leggo's. The Goldwing uniform is usually color coordinated between the rider and passenger and for summer riding consists of short sleeved shirt, pants and an open face touring lid with the boom mike and wind cover. The color coordinated look continues to cool weather wear with look alike nylon jackets, usually the same color as the helmet but not always the same color as the Wing. The Beemer Bunch is usually the best dressed, money being no object. At the least it's Vanson leathers, at the most it's imported unborn albino elk leather leathers, hand stitched by little elves deep in the interior of the Black Forest with the BMW logo done in gold and platinum. Boots that NASA uses for shuttle wear and custom designed helmets with air conditioning, cell phone and a spigot for the very best imported German beer. It would appear that the PC rider dresses in the best protective clothing he or she can afford. Not too ostentatious but most certainly not in junk. It seems a pretty even split between leather and Cordura. Helmets are a must with the majority opting for the full face. Gloves from a variety of makers as are the boots. Well protected, functional, comfortable. We may not make the center fold of Gentleman Rider but we'd fit right in with any gathering of experienced Road Worriers (yes, that's the intended spelling). Just my observation. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver "Motocyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:03:37 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview - where to buy? To: pca420@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Call Craig at Clearview: 1 800 798 6089. I just got mine today and installed it and made a quick test run down the freeway at 75mph. I think I am going to like it. Could hear the motor run(or is it really a flux capacitor like one of the listers said?) and the tires whine. Never heard that before at that speed. I got the +3. It is 3 inches taller, has a bit of a sculptered look and is 4 inches wider (2" on each side). Bill Richardson 98PC "Scoot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:03:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:02:47 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:02:57 -0400 From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Subject: Re(2): PC800: Travelcade Saddlegel To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have seen an ad in my recent Motorcycle tour & Cruiser magazine for a product called an Airvent Ventilated Saddle Pad. It is $49.95 with perforated leather top, breathable foam, super soft, and ez on- ex off attachment. I don't know any more than the ad says. 877-700-VENT (www.enconnect.net/wind-tech) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" BHerndon@morningstar-group.com writes: > >Steven, >I bought the Saddlegel from Travelcade thru JC Whitney. I used it on a few >trips and found that it did not help much. It made the pressure points on my >tailbone even more pronounced than before. I rode with a friend from Dallas to >Texarkana which is about 180 miles and I put the pad in the trunk after about >50 >miles. >Anyway, it did not work out for me. I returned it to JC Whitney with no >problems. >A suggestion...before spending $300 to $400 on a new seat, I would try out a >beaded seat cover. I ordered one from Whitehorse Press on the internet and >have >been using it for a couple of months. Big improvement. It keeps you cool as >you ride because it allows air to flow underneath you while you ride. It also >makes it easier to adjust your seating position >if you get a little uncomfortable. I am taking a long trip in Septemper so >until then, I can only say that for trips up to 2 hours, >I have been very pleased. It's about $25 or so with shipping and I feel that >it >is worth it. You can bungee the thing to your seat(bungee cords and hooks are >included) or you can run the bungees under the seat pan for a permanent >install. >If this doesn't work for you then you might want to try a Corbin or Russell >replacement seat. The folks on the list that have them rave about both. >The web site is www.whitehorsepress.com. >Hope this helps. Good luck in your search. >Brad Herndon >'98 PC800 'Keister Rotundus' >Mesquite, TX > > > > > >Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com on 07/31/2000 05:59:50 PM > >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >cc: (bcc: Brad Herndon/MSTAR-DAL/Mstar/Suizafoods) > >Subject: PC800: Travelcade Saddlegel > > > > > >Does anyone have the SaddleGel from Travelcade on their PC800? The person who >I >purchased my bike from had removed some of the foam from the seat, and I am >noticing that I am getting Sore-Butt-Syndrome. I am looking at the saddlegel >pad. I have found it locally for $69.00, and orderable via Chaparrel for >$50.00 >(though they don't know how long it will take to get them in). Before shelling >out this money, I need to know if they are worth the price. > >I tried it on my bike, though I didn't ride with it on. I am concerned that I >will just end up trading one pressure point for new pressure points. > >Thanks in advance > > > > >Steven Steinsapir > >'89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" >Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:03:06 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:02:22 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 20:02:20 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: Accident coverage To: Pacific Coast List Posting Hello all, This past sunday evening, two motorcyclists in Green Bay had their right of way violated by a car driver of 17 years old, who apparently pulled out of a side street onto a busy highway in front of the bikes. The accident got big TV coverage due to the high rate of accidents on this particular highway. Only one report that I heard ID'd the car driver as at fault. Both bikers were injured and one woman is still in critical condition. One reporter, when describing the accident, said the car driver "did not see" the bikers. I sure wish reporters would use these occasions to stress that car drivers should "see" riders and to educate the public about this issue. It's a pet peeve of mine. Another is the way bike accidents are reported in the paper too. Sometimes they ID the particular bike. ie. a "harley". curious, eh? Anywy, lets pray for those riders... Paul in Green Bay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:09:10 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:09:08 -0500 (CDT) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:06:17 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:08:33 -0500 From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson Subject: PC800: Cheese Days To: PC 800 LIST Reply-to: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson boundary="Boundary_(ID_OqnlXaLDzZCzRnUg1MIfzw)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_OqnlXaLDzZCzRnUg1MIfzw) Yeah, I noticed as I clicked the send button last night that I had only = put the date in the subject line and not referred to it anywhere else. = The Cheese Days parade is Sunday, September 17. I think it usually = starts around 12:30 or 1:00. Michael says he'll call tomorrow to get = more details. I do think it will be a lot of fun, even for flatlanders = like us. Michael thinks we need at least two of every color to = adequately represent the PC cult. So there is no squabbling about = order, we could line up in year order with oldest first. Now, are there = any of you before '89 planning to ride, because then we might change = this rule without notice? Todd, you're with us as long as you don't = have fancy stripping like Greg Castle's in Canada. Any former Shriner drivers in the group who can give us a crash course? = Opps! Or should we just try to get in behind them and learn this year. = Obviously, it is getting late and we are getting punchy. Before I quit = though, we will have to get some matching t-shirts, don't you think? Marlisa and Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net --Boundary_(ID_OqnlXaLDzZCzRnUg1MIfzw)
Yeah, I noticed as I clicked the send button last night that I had = only put=20 the date in the subject line and not referred to it anywhere else.  = The=20 Cheese Days parade is Sunday, September 17.  I think it usually = starts=20 around 12:30 or 1:00.  Michael says he'll call tomorrow to get more = details.  I do think it will be a lot of fun, even for flatlanders = like=20 us.  Michael thinks we need at least two of every color to = adequately=20 represent the PC cult.  So there is no squabbling about order, we = could=20 line up in year order with oldest first.  Now, are there any of you = before=20 '89 planning to ride, because then we might change this rule without=20 notice?  Todd, you're with us as long as you don't have fancy = stripping=20 like Greg Castle's in Canada.
 
Any former Shriner drivers in the group who can give us a crash=20 course?  Opps!  Or should we just try to get in behind them = and learn=20 this year.  Obviously, it is getting late and we are getting = punchy. =20 Before I quit though, we will have to get some matching t-shirts, don't = you=20 think?
 
Marlisa and Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 PC (Video = 1)
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
--Boundary_(ID_OqnlXaLDzZCzRnUg1MIfzw)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 21:44:18 -0500 (CDT) (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 21:44:11 -0500 (CDT) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29378; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:44:06 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:40:32 -0400 From: Dale Subject: Re: PC800: Air horns vs electric To: PC800 Rider Cc: BillandScoot@cs.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey Tim, this might be New Jersey, California or just about anywhere in the US especially around big cities. > >There seems to be a lot of road rage on our local streets and highways, and I > >don't want to add to that by blasting away with a set of airhorns. The one > >finger salute and blaring your horn can get you shot around here! >98PC"Scoot" > > And where might this be in the country Bill? I want to steer around it if I > should find myself traveling in that area. > -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 20:52:21 -0500 (CDT) (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:52:20 -0500 (CDT) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA18606 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:56:21 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:50:23 -0500 From: William Drake Subject: PC800: Starved Rock Run Info To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Hi everyone, I have had some requests for lodging in the Naperville area and here are some: Hampton Inn 1087 W. Diehl Rd 630-505-1400 $79/night Holiday Inn 1801 N. Naper Blvd. 630-606-4900 $89/night Red Roof Inn 1698 W. Diehl Rd 630-369-2500 $73/night Raddison Hotel 3000 Warrenville rd Lisle 630-505-1000 $89/night Wyndham Garden Hotel 1837 Centre Point 630-505-3353 S94/nght(suites) all are subject to tax and other incidentals. not sure how cheap of lodging anybody coming overnight were looking for, but I thought I'd go with the big names as they are safe & clean. There is a cheap motel I can check on if anyone needs(it goes by the week or month) Also there are bars and restaurants through out the area around the motels and a 30 screen movie theater. If anyone needs any more info let me know and will post updates weekly. so far we have 8 possible coasters and 3 non coasters possibly riding so far, so keep your fingers crossed for good weather. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC, HRCA, AMA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 20:55:11 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 20:55:09 -0500 (CDT) id VAA19877; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:54:40 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:54:40 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph from Rick.Lockridge@turner.com on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:58:10PM -0400 To: "Lockridge, Rick " Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'irene.frost@hotbot.com'" Content-disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:58:10PM -0400, Lockridge, Rick wrote: -> -> To those of you who would wonder why I would try to help the other -> driver avoid paying a penalty for his negligence, I have to say, I -> doubt I would have done it if he hadn't been a motorcyclist. Most of -> the time, I am all for punishing drivers who aren't paying sufficient -> attention. One of my recent stories here at CNN was on drivers who -> chat on their cellphones while in traffic--and just how much they pose -> a threat to other drivers--especially motorcyclists. I'd be interested -> to hear what the rest of you think about that. Most other -> industrialized countries have already banned or severely restricted -> the use of handheld phones by drivers, but here in the U.S. of A. we -> like to have our freedoms, and we especially don't like anybody to -> tell us to shut up! : ) When I first started riding 3 years ago, my first bike was a '96 PC. I was at an intersection... 3 lanes... left lane went to the left and straight, the two right lanes were right only. I was in the left right-only lane (middle lane).... there was a white SUV in the right right-only lane... the light turns green... I remember thinking that I should give this SUV plenty of space by keeping to the left position on my lane.. and then I noticed midway through the turn, the woman in the SUV decided to change lanes... it seemed to go in slow motion, I was getting more and more upset, thinking, "damn she's getting close", I remember thinking that I could reach over and touch her vehicle even though I was in the left position (which means she had at least half my lane), and I sortof paniced... I should have slowed down, and let her in front. There was a divider she could have forced me into which would have prevented me from hitting the traffic going in the other direction, but I probably would have gone down. At the last second, she looked over at me, and swerved back into her own lane. I sped up and passed her. We both made some mistakes. I should have made myself more visible by either riding further up the side of her vehicle, or further back so she couldn't have hit me, or I should have used the horn (which may or may not have helped), and lastly, I could have slowed down and let her in front of me. I had focused on the "DAMN SHE'S GETTING CLOSE!".. instead of 'what should I do?'....She switched lanes in the middle of a turn, which is a bad idea, she didn't look properly before switching lanes, and she was talking on a cellphone the whole time. When I was riding back from DC in May... coming down on I-85... I was in the left lane, doing fairly decent speed... was passing a minivan in the lane on my right... I was right even with her (yes, another woman) window, and she decides to change lanes. She started coming over to my lane... so I started yelling at her, she may or may not have heard me, but she did look over, see me, and swerve back into her own lane. She wasn't talking on a cellphone that I could see. At that point, I decided I didn't want to be around her anymore, and I took off. Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper sticker that says "Would you drive any better with your cellphone in your ass?" - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 20:26:50 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 20:26:49 -0500 (CDT) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.10.0/Voyager) with ESMTP id e721Q0l15426; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:26:00 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:29:44 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: jtq@together.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu John T. Quinn wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any > of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the > bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in > street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been > looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road > Gear. I use plain old, leather gloves during the summer. > Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about > it? > > John Quinn > PC 800 1990 Yep. Wearing open face helmet (w/shield), very heavy London Fog coat, winter ski gloves, jeans and Tennis Shoes. Landed on my front, head/face onto asphalt. Some twisted glasses, minor cuts on face. Badly skinned one knee and a dislocated toe. I was riding two days later (from MI to Kentucky, state rally to go to, and this wasn't going to stop me). Wing was cosmetically scuffed up (about $3500 I think) but mechanically was fine. One tough bike. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 21:01:05 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 21:01:05 -0500 (CDT) (tnt8-216-180-72-168.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.72.168]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e72213j23050; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:01:03 -0500 (CDT) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04374; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:59:34 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:59:34 -0500 From: David Kelly Subject: Controlling The Weather (was Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph) To: "Lockridge, Rick " Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu "Lockridge, Rick " writes: > > After that accident, you'd think I would be smart enough to always > wear my armored Kevlar jacket and Draggin Jeans and wo rkboots, but (and > I know this is a thin excuse to many), it's just too dang hot here in > Atlanta sometimes for all of that. When I can wear it all, I do--like > today, for example. 73 degrees this morning, so I geared up all the way. > It sure feels s afer. Well, its an election year. Why doesn't CNN help us locate candidates Who Will Do Something About The Weather? Just think of the opportunities for Huge Government Programs in Weather Control. And no hassles with existing missle treaties. I fail to understand how Democratic candidates could resist. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 20:18:03 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 20:18:02 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:18:01 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:06:13 -0700 From: Robert H Walton Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: "'Gene Royal'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Hi, Don't know of any floorboards, but I was able to get a kit to allow the installation of highway pegs, and also a luggage rack. Both work great. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gene Royal [SMTP:pstrgene@volcano.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:12 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Do any of you know of floorboards for a PC? I am having to have a modified shifter fabricated for me because My left leg is artificial. I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as "heel" "heel" rather than "heel - toe." Pstrgene@volcano.net << File: ATT00004.htm >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 19:52:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 19:52:51 -0500 (CDT) (tnt8-216-180-72-168.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.72.168]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e720qnj02508; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:52:49 -0500 (CDT) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03032; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:28:28 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:28:28 -0500 From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Garmin eMap "of Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:10:42 PDT." <20000801201042.20528.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> To: Roger Ries Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Roger Ries writes: > > --- David Kelly wrote: > > > I like it. Its waterproof and tough. Need to break > > down and run power > > to it from the PC. Right now I run it off batteries. > > It gets only 4 > > or 5 hours from a set of 1600 mA NiMH batteries, or > > 24 hours from a > > set of new AA alkaline. Silly thing actually has a > > battery timer and > > battery voltage display. > > > > Have you tried AA Lithium batteries? > > Might be worth the extra price if they last a long > time. Garmin GPS's have a "fuel guage" on one display that is supposed to indicate how much battery life one has left. The III+ has a setup parameter as to whether you have Alkaline, NiCad, or Lithium batteries installed. I have not priced Lithium batteries. These are non-rechargable? Over 20 hours on (4) AA Alkaline batteries is pretty hard to beat. But NiMH last long enough that I can swap them out. I have about 5 sets of 4 NiMH that I rotate thru my Kodak DC290 camera and the GPS. The Correct Thing To Do(tm) would be to install a cigarette lighter plug somewhere on the PC. Such as in the left pocket. Or inside the right radiator cover. Have looked and the fancy John Deere connector. Its awfully nice. But I don't intend to run as much current thru the socket as that can handle. The prebuilt GPS power cables come with a cigarette lighter plug. I think the correct thing for me will be a marine grade cigarette lighter socket. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 20:05:27 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 20:05:27 -0500 (CDT) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.10.1/Voyager) with ESMTP id e721Bq004466 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:11:52 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:08:23 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad Subject: PC800: [Fwd: Gold Wing] To: PC list --Boundary_(ID_1v2Up5bkrqyPHtZLBe+urA) Thought somebody here could help him out. Thomas --Boundary_(ID_1v2Up5bkrqyPHtZLBe+urA) (with voyager.net's vgrpop Sun Jul 30 22:14:07 2000) by mx2.mx.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA97978 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:03:02 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:04:03 +0200 From: "Ronny Jacobsson" Subject: Gold Wing To: boundary="Boundary_(ID_yGFyOnym7hGrDoHN9jOQRQ)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_yGFyOnym7hGrDoHN9jOQRQ) This is a mail from Sweden,. beautiful sight Iam a GW owner in a too cold country.nice sight. please ansver. I am = going to wisit the USA in the spring of 01 We Want to rent a GW .Have you any good ideas for a beatiful 21 days = run. ronny --Boundary_(ID_yGFyOnym7hGrDoHN9jOQRQ)
This is a mail from Sweden,. beautiful=20 sight
Iam a GW owner in a too cold = country.nice sight.=20 please ansver. I am going to wisit the USA in the = spring    of=20 01
We Want to rent a GW .Have you any good = ideas for a=20 beatiful 21 days run.
ronny
--Boundary_(ID_yGFyOnym7hGrDoHN9jOQRQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_1v2Up5bkrqyPHtZLBe+urA)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 21:55:33 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 21:55:29 -0500 (CDT) by smtp-2.core.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FYN9CR02.REB for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:53:15 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 21:52:22 -0500 From: Fenwick Subject: PC800: Trunk mats - New info... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal Hi everyone: Forgive me for sending this to everyone on the list.... I have returned from Homecoming and have had a chance to catch up on my sleep and get unpacked (and find my way back to work too...) Now, it is time to tackle the "trunk mat" project. I am currently compiling the list of those who expressed interest and will be sending an email to those people within the next few days to confirm such particulars as color, to exchange info, etc. Since I added the second color (black) halfway into this "enterprise", I will give everyone a chance to change their color choice (from grey) if they wish. Also included will be a matching "mat" that fits inside the left hand fairing compartment. I will be accepting payments via PayPal, and by check also. I will make every effort to make this as simple as possible for both of us... I will be filling requests in the order that I received the original responses last week. (Why do I have this feeling that Neill Thompson is laughing at me right now???) :-) It looks as if I will be producing around 35 sets of mats in the initial run... Now is the time to speak up if you would like to order a pair... Rich Fenwick rfenwick@core.com http://pc_800.tripod.com 1990 Honda PC800 HRCA - HM725413 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:58:55 -0500 (CDT) (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:58:54 -0500 (CDT) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e723wpZ50068; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:58:51 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:59:04 -0700 From: Beau Williams Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: "Lockridge, Rick " , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, irene.frost@hotbot.com X-MSMail-priority: Normal Rick; I was on my mobile phone (in the car) today and could not remember the passing of miles while I was on the short call. ...suddenly, there I was, farther down the freeway. Obviously, I was on autopilot during that time. Now; while I consider my "autopilot" better than most, I can't possibly think that my reaction time and attention span is as good then as it would be normally. If something had happened in front of me or beside me, I'm sure I would've reacted poorly/slowly. I think the recent studies are all correct...we might need to give up the convenience and get tight on these things (while driving). No one's health/life is worth the 5-minute phone argument over who's going to pick up dinner tonight. "Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:12:56 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:12:47 -0500 (CDT) by q4.quik.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA183816; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:12:43 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:23:39 -0700 From: Great Ned Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: "Lockridge, Rick " , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, irene.frost@hotbot.com X-MSMail-priority: Normal One of my recent stories here at CNN was on drivers who chat on their cellphones while in traffic--and just how much they pose a threat to other drivers--especially motorcyclists. I'd be interested to hear what the rest of you think about that. Most other industrialized countries have already banned or severely restricted the use of handheld phones by drivers, but here in the U.S. of A. we like to have our freedoms, and we especially don't like anybody to tell us to shut up! : ) > Excellent tale well told, Rick. Per the cell phones: I see the risk as twofold for motorcyclists. First, and obvious, is the attention diverted from the act of driving. Second is the posture. Many cell phone drivers I have observed hold the phone in their right hand and lean their head way over, as if they are holding the phone on the right shoulder. This precludes their taking a good look to the left when, say, they are turning on to a busy street that, say, you are occupying at legal speed on your PC. And we all know the scenario for the most common motorcycle-car collision. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 22:19:32 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:19:25 -0500 (CDT) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:18:06 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:20:22 -0500 From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson Subject: Re: PC800: Starved Rock Run Info To: PC 800 LIST Reply-to: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZHevlHzpPWnd6HT2lqtpFw)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_ZHevlHzpPWnd6HT2lqtpFw) Bill Drake Wrote: "so far we have 8 possible coasters and 3 non coasters possibly riding = so far, so keep your fingers crossed for good weather. " Other NON-PCers? Isn't that sacrilegious or something? I hope you at = least limit them to famed PC colors! (Can you tell I am jealous? We can't make it to the ride!) Have fun and ride safe all! Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net --Boundary_(ID_ZHevlHzpPWnd6HT2lqtpFw)
Bill Drake Wrote:
"so far we have 8 possible coasters and 3 non = coasters=20 possibly riding so far, so keep your fingers crossed for good=20 weather. "
 
 Other NON-PCers?  Isn't that sacrilegious or = something?  I=20 hope you at least limit them to famed PC colors!
 
(Can you tell I am jealous?  We can't make it to the = ride!)
 
Have fun and ride safe all!
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 PC (Video 1)
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
--Boundary_(ID_ZHevlHzpPWnd6HT2lqtpFw)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net 1 Aug 2000 22:35:09 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 22:35:07 -0500 (CDT) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000802033506.RIEK17157.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 03:35:06 +0000 02 Aug 2000 03:35:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 03:35:06 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk mats - New info... To: Fenwick Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) <20000802033506.RIEK17157.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Rich, Bernie and I compared the trunks on his '94 and my '89 tonight. I didn't have the sense to take along a tape measure, but by eyeball they looked identical. I am pretty confident that your mats will fit an '89 the same as later PC's. Here's what I would suggest: I'm willing to be the guinea pig for the 89's. If you like, I'll buy a set and let the list know how they fit. If they don't, I'll just pass them on to some needy owner of a newer PC. Do you want to do it this way? BTW: I'd like the grey mats. Thanks. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Hi everyone: > > Forgive me for sending this to everyone on the list.... > > I have returned from Homecoming and have had a chance to catch up on my > sleep and get unpacked (and find my way back to work too...) > > Now, it is time to tackle the "trunk mat" project. I am currently compiling > the list of those who expressed interest and will be sending an email to > those people within the next few days to confirm such particulars as color, > to exchange info, etc. Since I added the second color (black) halfway into > this "enterprise", I will give everyone a chance to change their color > choice (from grey) if they wish. Also included will be a matching "mat" > that fits inside the left hand fairing compartment. > > I will be accepting payments via PayPal, and by check also. I will make > every effort to make this as simple as possible for both of us... I will be > filling requests in the order that I received the original responses last > week. > > (Why do I have this feeling that Neill Thompson is laughing at me right > now???) :-) > > It looks as if I will be producing around 35 sets of mats in the initial > run... > > Now is the time to speak up if you would like to order a pair... > > Rich Fenwick > rfenwick@core.com > http://pc_800.tripod.com > 1990 Honda PC800 > HRCA - HM725413 > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:42:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Robert H Walton To: "'Dave Bartlett'" , "Lockridge, Rick " Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'irene.frost@hotbot.com'" Subject: RE: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:37:04 -0700 Hi, I have a habit that when in traffic I keep my thumb right on the horn. If there is any doubt what the person in the right lane is going to do, there is no delay in getting the message across. It seems that usually the driver's window is open, and when the horn is only about ten feet away, the vehicle just jumps back into the lane. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dave Bartlett [SMTP:dlb@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:55 PM To: Lockridge, Rick Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; 'irene.frost@hotbot.com' Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:58:10PM -0400, Lockridge, Rick wrote: -> -> To those of you who would wonder why I would try to help the other -> driver avoid paying a penalty for his negligence, I have to say, I -> doubt I would have done it if he hadn't been a motorcyclist. Most of -> the time, I am all for punishing drivers who aren't paying sufficient -> attention. One of my recent stories here at CNN was on drivers who -> chat on their cellphones while in traffic--and just how much they pose -> a threat to other drivers--especially motorcyclists. I'd be interested -> to hear what the rest of you think about that. Most other -> industrialized countries have already banned or severely restricted -> the use of handheld phones by drivers, but here in the U.S. of A. we -> like to have our freedoms, and we especially don't like anybody to -> tell us to shut up! : ) When I first started riding 3 years ago, my first bike was a '96 PC. I was at an intersection... 3 lanes... left lane went to the left and straight, the two right lanes were right only. I was in the left right-only lane (middle lane).... there was a white SUV in the right right-only lane... the light turns green... I remember thinking that I should give this SUV plenty of space by keeping to the left position on my lane.. and then I noticed midway through the turn, the woman in the SUV decided to change lanes... it seemed to go in slow motion, I was getting more and more upset, thinking, "damn she's getting close", I remember thinking that I could reach over and touch her vehicle even though I was in the left position (which means she had at least half my lane), and I sortof paniced... I should have slowed down, and let her in front. There was a divider she could have forced me into which would have prevented me from hitting the traffic going in the other direction, but I probably would have gone down. At the last second, she looked over at me, and swerved back into her own lane. I sped up and passed her. We both made some mistakes. I should have made myself more visible by either riding further up the side of her vehicle, or further back so she couldn't have hit me, or I should have used the horn (which may or may not have helped), and lastly, I could have slowed down and let her in front of me. I had focused on the "DAMN SHE'S GETTING CLOSE!".. instead of 'what should I do?'....She switched lanes in the middle of a turn, which is a bad idea, she didn't look properly before switching lanes, and she was talking on a cellphone the whole time. When I was riding back from DC in May... coming down on I-85... I was in the left lane, doing fairly decent speed... was passing a minivan in the lane on my right... I was right even with her (yes, another woman) window, and she decides to change lanes. She started coming over to my lane... so I started yelling at her, she may or may not have heard me, but she did look over, see me, and swerve back into her own lane. She wasn't talking on a cellphone that I could see. At that point, I decided I didn't want to be around her anymore, and I took off. Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper sticker that says "Would you drive any better with your cellphone in your ass?" - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 01:44:26 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 01:44:26 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 23:44:25 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: jtq@together.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu > From: John T. Quinn > I'd like to ask if any of you are wearing armor or > other protective riding gear while on the bike. I use the bike everyday, year round. I always wear my Motoport Spyder Ax Jacket (it has armor), boots (not necessarily motorcycle boots, but always boots) and gloves. If I'm going for a long ride then I use the Ax Pants (they also have armor) and the motorcycle Miami boots. I use the jacket, gloves, and boots even if I'm just going to the corner store and the temperature is (like these days) over 100F. (I hear perspiring is good for you, so I'm doing it a lot) :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 01:58:56 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 01:58:56 -0500 (CDT) 01 Aug 2000 23:58:55 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: lane sharing To: Revill Dunn , pc800@hpc.uh.edu --- Revill Dunn wrote: > Not to mention "lane sharing" motorcycles, a stunt > so stupid that everyone who > ever does such a thing should be fitted for a > shroud. They'll need it soon I hope you are wrong and that I won't be needing mine for a while yet. Anyway, if you drove a bike frequently in Southern California you'll certainly learn how to do it. It may be more dangerous, but it's the only way to go. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 00:44:51 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 00:44:51 -0500 (CDT) id BAA22913; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:44:39 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:44:38 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph gobeaugo@prodigy.net on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:59:04PM -0700 To: Beau Williams Cc: "Lockridge, Rick " , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, irene.frost@hotbot.com Content-disposition: inline <003301bffc36$016e42a0$9e51c540@computer> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:59:04PM -0700, Beau Williams wrote: -> -> I think the recent studies are all correct...we might need to give up the -> convenience and get tight on these things (while driving). No one's -> health/life is worth the 5-minute phone argument over who's going to pick up -> dinner tonight. There *are* some areas in the US which have passed laws on using cellphones in cars... The first one I heard about was a suburb of Cleveland... and it was several (2-4) years ago I believe. You are allowed to use your cellphone if you are using a HANDS-FREE setup. I do use my cellphone in the car, but I either do it when I am stopped, or I use an earphone so I don't have to use my hands. I believe if you were caught using a cellphone, it was only a ticket... so it wasn't really *that* serious. A couple of weeks ago, I made the mistake of pulling my pager out while I was riding.. granted, you can take your hands off the bars, but it doesn't make sense to tie them up with anything just in case you need to use them... especially for something like stopping. After almost hitting the car in front of me... I decided it was the last time I will ever do something like that. I learned.. Being a rider really has made me a better driver. I am alot more aware of things around me... and I understand the dangers of using a cellphone while driving... it has really opened my eyes to things I never realized in the first 13 years of driving. If I hadn't taken up riding.. would I be so open to the idea of NOT using a cellphone while driving? - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 23:44:25 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 23:44:23 -0500 (CDT) id VAA17106 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:53:56 -0700 (MST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:53:56 -0700 (MST) From: Alex Vrenios Subject: PC800: Bugz To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast) I like a 3/4 face, or open face helmet. I like to wear goggles. I'm not into the "pilot" or the classic mc stuff but the bug-eye has my attention. I got a pair of Bugz and, while the ballots arn't all in yet, for $50 it's got vents on the sides and extra nose "bridge" pieces to allow you to adjust their width. A tiny allen wrench is used to loosen a nut and slide off the stock nose piece and try another one to get just the right fit. You can even trim a long one to precisely the right size for your particular eye separation. They are high priced, but they are very comfortable and will become more so when I get them right for me, I hope. I got the ones with the elastic band, not the "sunglasses" style. BTW, I went over the 100 mile mark today - had to put in more gas already! (Iron butt here I come.) -- Regards, Alex, kx9i 98 PC800 Kazesan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 00:59:24 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 00:59:23 -0500 (CDT) id BAA23116; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:59:19 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:59:19 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett Subject: Re: PC800: Garmin eMap on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 07:28:28PM -0500 To: David Kelly Cc: Roger Ries , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 07:28:28PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: -> Roger Ries writes: -> > -> > --- David Kelly wrote: -> > -> > > I like it. Its waterproof and tough. Need to break -> > > down and run power Actually... from what I understand... the eMap is water RESISTANT... not waterproof. The Garman III(+) are waterproof. -> > > to it from the PC. Right now I run it off batteries. -> > > It gets only 4 -> > > or 5 hours from a set of 1600 mA NiMH batteries, or -> > > 24 hours from a -> > > set of new AA alkaline. Silly thing actually has a -> > > battery timer and -> > > battery voltage display. -> > > -> > -> > Have you tried AA Lithium batteries? -> > -> > Might be worth the extra price if they last a long -> > time. -> -> Garmin GPS's have a "fuel guage" on one display that is supposed to -> indicate how much battery life one has left. The III+ has a setup -> parameter as to whether you have Alkaline, NiCad, or Lithium batteries -> installed. -> -> I have not priced Lithium batteries. These are non-rechargable? -> -> Over 20 hours on (4) AA Alkaline batteries is pretty hard to beat. But -> NiMH last long enough that I can swap them out. I have about 5 sets of -> 4 NiMH that I rotate thru my Kodak DC290 camera and the GPS. -> -> The Correct Thing To Do(tm) would be to install a cigarette lighter -> plug somewhere on the PC. Such as in the left pocket. Or inside the -> right radiator cover. Have looked and the fancy John Deere connector. -> Its awfully nice. But I don't intend to run as much current thru the -> socket as that can handle. The prebuilt GPS power cables come with a -> cigarette lighter plug. I think the correct thing for me will be a -> marine grade cigarette lighter socket. There are several things to do. When I had my PC, I did what you are talking about... a simple accessory plug. Both of my Valks have a separate power cable.... just because I use GPS' so often. One thing you have to consider (not so much on a PC) is placement of the plug. I don't have a separate power for an eMap (which uses a different plug than a III+), and I have my accessory plug in the sidecover below the seat... but what do you expect when you have a cruiser? I used the accessory plug for the eMap... and just when I pulled into a gas station, the power went out on the eMap.. turns out the cable sort of touched my pipes...and well... it's pretty much useless now. The accessory plugs I used were marine ones... they are pretty nice... I have heard good things about BMW and John Deere accessory plugs. I believe I just saw some marine grade accessory sockets (same ones I have) in a JCWhitney catalog. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 392-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 392-2116 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 23:13:25 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 23:13:20 -0500 (CDT) by mail.tyler.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:11:37 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:05:03 -0500 From: Steve Wilson Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal <20000801215440.P25063@outhouse.cisco.com> Hey Dave, If the bumper sticker is for real, where can they be had. I know a few folks that may be interested. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Bartlett" > > Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper sticker that says > > "Would you drive any better with your cellphone in your ass?" > > - dlb> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 23:54:17 -0500 (CDT) (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 23:54:16 -0500 (CDT) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e724sAZ132378; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:54:10 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:54:23 -0700 From: Beau Williams Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: Dave Bartlett , "Lockridge, Rick " Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, irene.frost@hotbot.com X-MSMail-priority: Normal <20000801215440.P25063@outhouse.cisco.com> Dave Bartlett said: Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper sticker that says "Would you drive any better with your cellphone in your ass?" Sheesh, can you imagine the ring on those calls?! But, seriously, folks...there are some good folk out there too. The second time I licked the pavement, I was driving in the extreme slow lane when a big van in the middle lane slowly drifted into my lane. I kinda' saw him coming, so I hit the horn long and hard, but I was still rather young and made the mistake of slamming the front brake while I was turning it away from the van. I rode the bike down and kicked my leg up so I came away with nothing more than a small scratch on my lower arm (yes; it happened real slow, I vividly remember almost every millisecond). What happened next was almost surreal. The first thing I remember hearing (after the scraping of my bike against the pavement) was the screeching of tires as the van ran off. The second thing I remember hearing was the screeching of tires as a tow truck from across the street took off to try to chase the van down. The third thing I heard was another motocyclist stopping to give me a quick exam (he worked in a hospital). The fourth thing was some housewife-type asking how I was doing (she was going to be a witness for me if the towtruck caught the van). The last thing I remember hearing was the tow truck driver coming back to apologize for losing the van in traffic. (The tow truck driver was genuinely pissed and burely...I remember wondering what he would've done had he caught the guy.) It was kindof strange...here I was, in one of the "lower" ends of Los Angeles, a complete stranger, earning more money in one month than many of them did in six, and they were all sincerely concerned about the injustice of what had happened to me. True, I wouldn't want to drop my bike in that part of town today...they'd probably snatch the bike and part it out in 30 seconds, but it was still a very interesting memory, and something that I try to recall whenever I want to pull out my own bazooka at all the 4- and 2-wheel dolts out there. (Believe me, I'd carry huge shells.) Anyway...just sharing. If you should, God forbid, taste the pavement in the coming weeks or months, may you fall in front of the same good folk who tended to me back then... ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 1 Aug 2000 23:32:59 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 01 Aug 2000 23:32:53 -0500 (CDT) by q4.quik.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA43434 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:32:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:43:51 -0700 From: Great Ned Subject: PC800: Progressive policyholders To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_FKeiOAu1AEPRDYv27oKRjw)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_FKeiOAu1AEPRDYv27oKRjw) Hi PCPals-- If you own multiple bikes, this may be of interest: In re-upping my insurance for my Cushman yesterday I discovered that = Progressive has done another aboutface on policy policy and now will put = two bikes on one. It was considerable savings for me over the previous = setup. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" --Boundary_(ID_FKeiOAu1AEPRDYv27oKRjw)
Hi PCPals--
 
If you own multiple bikes, this may be = of=20 interest:
 
In re-upping my insurance for my = Cushman yesterday=20 I discovered that Progressive has done another aboutface on policy = policy and=20 now will put two bikes on one.  It was considerable savings for me = over the=20 previous setup.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"
 
 
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_FKeiOAu1AEPRDYv27oKRjw)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:08:09 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk mats - New info... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) This is an unsolicited testimonial about the trunk mats Rich is making. I had a chance to see, feel, examine them at the Honda HomeComing last week and can heartily endorse them. He has taken great pains to make them accurately fit around every nook and cranny in the bottom of your trunk (even around and inside the tool kit area on the right side). I saw both the black and the gray version and if I was buying them I'd go for the gray just because the dust and dirt doesn't show on them. Of course if you plan on keeping stuff in your trunk that covers them up all the time then this is not even a consideration. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" rfenwick@core.com writes: >Hi everyone: > >Forgive me for sending this to everyone on the list.... > >I have returned from Homecoming and have had a chance to catch up on my >sleep and get unpacked (and find my way back to work too...) > >Now, it is time to tackle the "trunk mat" project. I am currently compiling >the list of those who expressed interest and will be sending an email to >those people within the next few days to confirm such particulars as color, >to exchange info, etc. Since I added the second color (black) halfway into >this "enterprise", I will give everyone a chance to change their color >choice (from grey) if they wish. Also included will be a matching "mat" >that fits inside the left hand fairing compartment. > >I will be accepting payments via PayPal, and by check also. I will make >every effort to make this as simple as possible for both of us... I will be >filling requests in the order that I received the original responses last >week. > >(Why do I have this feeling that Neill Thompson is laughing at me right >now???) :-) > >It looks as if I will be producing around 35 sets of mats in the initial >run... > >Now is the time to speak up if you would like to order a pair... > >Rich Fenwick >rfenwick@core.com >http://pc_800.tripod.com >1990 Honda PC800 >HRCA - HM725413 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:46:34 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: lane sharing >--- Revill Dunn wrote: > >> Not to mention "lane sharing" motorcycles, a stunt >> so stupid that everyone who >> ever does such a thing should be fitted for a >> shroud. They'll need it soon Lane-splitting, called filtering in much of the world, is practiced regularly by riders in California, England, Europe, and Asia. And they don't die at the rate you imply. Your conclusion seems to be out of sync with what's actually happening. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Garbacik To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Finally forked! Well, I finally got forked! I ended up taking the forks to the dealer in town to have the seals replaced. I just didn't have time to deal with them right now, and in Western Oregon this is prime riding weather! I didn't want to be in the car any more! Reinstalling the forks was a breeze. I didn't have any pieces left over and my torque wrench fits up under the plastic so I didn't even need to remove anything other than the fender and caliper covers. I made it into work this morning so I must have done it correctly. Oh my. The ride in to work this morning was glorious! Seeing the sun peek above the Three Sisters (part of the Cascades) was grand. Everything turned rosey for a moment. Almost made me forget that I was just leaving work a mere 6 hours ago . . . . .(sigh) . .these 14 hours days are getting old. It sure is good to be back on two wheels! Tom '89 Moonbeam (Forked!) Corvallis, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 10:15:02 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 10:14:51 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:14:50 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:18:15 -0500 From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" Subject: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_K7V4Gu/AHMgR5UV2vQ9xCA)" Importance: Normal X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_K7V4Gu/AHMgR5UV2vQ9xCA) Is it just because I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone else think this subject line was about something lewd? ; ) Mp --Boundary_(ID_K7V4Gu/AHMgR5UV2vQ9xCA)
Is it = just because=20 I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone else think this = subject line=20 was about something lewd?  ; )
 
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--Boundary_(ID_K7V4Gu/AHMgR5UV2vQ9xCA)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com 2 Aug 2000 09:38:59 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 09:38:45 -0500 (CDT) id x.77.7ab9591 (9819) for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Cellphone ban problems... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi listers... I see two potential hurdles on the cellphone ban bandwagon... 1) Laws banning cellphone use will result in many Americans "having" to quickly pull off the side of the road, most probably in heavy traffic, to answer their phone while stopped ... Only until the phone is permanently mounted in the vehicle in a handsfree fashion (ala Acura Legend/TL-Lexus in-dash type units, or Onstar-style) will this not become a problem. Do we actually think we will turn off our cellphones just because we are in our cars? C'mon, be serious. 2) Enforcement. On many occasions (say, everyday) the amount of law enforcement on the highway is nil, almost nonexistent. Last weekend I completed an 800+ mile round-trip drive from Charleston to Orlando I consistently set the cruise control on my Blazer at 85-90 mph with a posted limit as 70mph ... As fast as everybody else... Just like the speed limit, a cellphone ban/law will only work if it is enforced... Just some thoughts to dwell on... Troy 1997 PC800 "Gabrielle" Goose Creek (Charleston), SC USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:52:43 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:52:40 -0500 (CDT) by slave3.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA21995 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 06:52:38 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 06:58:03 -0700 From: Will Edwards Subject: PC800: 97 PC for sale, Seattle area To: PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I saw this add in a Seattle, Wa paper. For Sale: 1997 Honda Pacific Coast. 3,700 miles, excellent condition. $6,100.00 (US). 425.643.2786 I know nothing else. If after calling if you need someone to make an inspection I would be glad to do it, but not until next week. This weekend I am off riding on the Northwest Passage Rally ( http://www.oz.net/~zldrider/northwestpassage/NEWMain.htm ) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com 2 Aug 2000 09:08:39 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 09:08:32 -0500 (CDT) id x.ea.8dc8a48 (4189) for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Re: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu John.... Proper riding gear (IMHO) is every bit as important as riding with a helmet. Contrary to what other riders may believe, the pavement is still VERY hard, even when the weather turns warm. I have a two-piece Motoport Kevlar suit that I like just fine. And yes, it does have armor enclosed in every place where a prudent person might want armor if you have a get-off from your bike at anything over 5mph. Motoport also does some very nice Cordura jacket and pant sets. You'll always hear folks singing the praises of almost anything from Aerostich (it IS good stuff). Good riding gear isn't quite as comfortable as jeans and a t-shirt, but even the stuffiest, sweatiest 2-piece leathers are lots more fun that repetitive skin grafts. Just another two cents worth. Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 Nata Harli -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:46:28 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:46:21 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA12781; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:46:20 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA15128; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:46:19 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21572; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:45:29 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21476; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:44:23 -0500 (CDT) id IAA15822; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:44:23 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:44:23 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Robert H Walton On Aug 1, 9:37pm, Robert H Walton wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph > Hi, > > I have a habit that when in traffic I keep my thumb right on the horn. If > there is any doubt what the person in the right lane is going to do, there > is no delay in getting the message across. It seems that usually the > driver's window is open, and when the horn is only about ten feet away, the > vehicle just jumps back into the lane. > > Bob Walton > Milwaukie, Or > Doesn't work for suburbans. They finish changing lanes, then look around. I'm still looking for a set of two level horns; "excuse me please" and "thermonuclear". Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:47:58 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:47:55 -0500 (CDT) with SMTP id IAA29958 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:47:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:47:54 -0500 From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Starved Rock Run Lodging To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Regarding lodging for the Starved Rock ride... I have reserved a room at the Wyndham Garden Hotel (the last one mentioned on Bill's list below) for $54.00 (fifty-four dollars) a night.... How? Go to www.travelweb.com and place your reservation there. Wyndham extends these bargain rates to those who book their rooms via Travel Web. These $54 rooms have no restrictions that I could find, and can be cancelled up until 6pm of the day of arrival. The Wyndham is a *very* nice place for that rate. I am confident that this rate is the lowest you will find of all the properties that Bill listed. I have stayed many a night at the Wyndham, since I used to work out of Naperville and live in Champaign. A picture and info about the Naperville Wyndham can be viewed at: www.wyndham.com If you have any questions... Let me know... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 http://pc_800.tripod.com fenwick@nn.com HRCA - HM725413 At 08:50 PM 08/01/2000 -0500, William Drake wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I have had some requests for lodging in the Naperville area and here >are some: > >Hampton Inn 1087 W. Diehl Rd 630-505-1400 $79/night > >Holiday Inn 1801 N. Naper Blvd. 630-606-4900 $89/night > >Red Roof Inn 1698 W. Diehl Rd 630-369-2500 $73/night > >Raddison Hotel 3000 Warrenville rd Lisle 630-505-1000 $89/night > >Wyndham Garden Hotel 1837 Centre Point 630-505-3353 S94/nght(suites) > >all are subject to tax and other incidentals. not sure how cheap of >lodging anybody coming overnight were looking for, but I thought I'd >go with the big names as they are safe & clean. There is a cheap motel >I can check on if anyone needs(it goes by the week or month) > >Also there are bars and restaurants through out the area around the >motels >and a 30 screen movie theater. > >If anyone needs any more info let me know and will post updates weekly. > >so far we have 8 possible coasters and 3 non coasters possibly riding so >far, so keep your fingers crossed for good weather. > >Bill Drake >Bolingbrook, IL >'97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" >PCRC, HRCA, AMA >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:34:16 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:34:15 -0500 (CDT) id e72DYDe17371; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:34:13 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:34:13 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Garmin eMap To: dkelly@HiWAAY.net, dlb@cisco.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, rogerries@yahoo.com Dave Bartlett writes: > -> > --- David Kelly wrote: > -> > > -> > > I like it. Its waterproof and tough. Need to break > -> > > down and run power > > Actually... from what I understand... the eMap is water > RESISTANT... not waterproof. The Garman III(+) are > waterproof. Think we (probably me) got the quoting messed up. I have a waterproof GPS III+, not an eMap. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:57:15 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:57:14 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA14270 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:57:14 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA16782 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:57:14 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22006 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:56:38 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21989 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:55:48 -0500 (CDT) id IAA15928 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:55:47 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:55:47 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: PC800: Re: Anal Cellphone holder To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <20000801215440.P25063@outhouse.cisco.com> <03c501bffc36$d9bdee80$d45932cf@tcac.net> > "Would you drive any better with your cellphone up your ass?" I have a friend who makes bumperstickers for a living. If I may, I'd like to offer this one to him. May I? Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 07:25:03 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 07:25:02 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:24:59 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, jtq@together.net Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com I always wear an Aerostich, with hard armor in the shoulders, elbows, knees. I went down in it only once, and it was only 4 or 5mph pulling into a gas station (yes, yes, I suppose I looked like Laugh-In guy on the tricycle ...) Rain had flowed gas/diesel spillage from their tanks' filler holes down onto the ramp I was trying to ride up. Anyway, my protective gear turned it into a non-event, despite a 5 ft. long scrape on the pavement from my engine guard (not a PC). best, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John T. Quinn" Reply-to: jtq@together.net Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 -0400 >Hi Everyone, > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about >it? > >John Quinn >PC 800 1990 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 08:48:16 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 08:48:09 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA12958 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:48:08 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA15391 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:48:08 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21650 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:47:32 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21627 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:46:42 -0500 (CDT) id IAA15843 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:46:41 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:46:41 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting <"RE: PC800: Riding Gear, and Road Rage"@amdext2.amd.com> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Aug 1, 6:34pm, Thomas E. Humphrey II wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear, and Road Rage > Hey! > Lane splitting (California style) is not stupid. In fact, studies show it > is not risky, statistically speaking, WHEN DONE PROPERLY. > In traffic here, lane splitting can cut your commute time in half! > Duhhhhh - if it were either illegal or risky, would the Calif. Highway > Patrol do it? > Yes, it LOOKS dangerous, and it can be if not done properly. But it is > legal in CA and it is a godsend to a rider on an overheating air cooled bike > in stop and go traffic. > Come to California and learn to do it, and you will smile BIG while > releasing maximum adrenalin while you are splitting lanes. > Tom in Clayton, CA OK Tom. In California, split away. But Please, Please don't come to Texas and do it. The cagers get the idea that scooters don't need a whole lane, and they try to share. SCAREY! Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 14:05:08 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 14:04:13 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: Dave Bartlett , "Lockridge, Rick " Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'irene.frost@hotbot.com'" --- Dave Bartlett says - > Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper > sticker that says > > "Would you drive any better with your cellphone in > your ass?" Have you been inadvertently listening to CarTalk ? from Cartalk.com get a free bumpersticker and more - mines on my truck: http://cartalk.cars.com/About/Drive-Now/index.html It took us a while, but we narrowed it down to two finalists: 1) "Drive Now, Talk Later" and 2) "Would You Drive Better If I Crammed That Cell Phone Up Your Keister?" NPR management vetoed our top choice, however, so we went for "Drive Now, Talk Later." For a free "Drive Now, Talk Later" Car Talk bumper sticker, just send a self-addressed business-size envelope with 33 cents postage on it to: Bumper Sticker Car Talk Plaza Box 3500 Harvard Square Cambridge, MA 02238 Sorry, we can send only one bumper sticker per envelope. Want more than one bumpersticker? Great! Here's how you can get them. psst - go to the website to see the bumpersticker... ride safe ===== Christoffer Carstanjen (that's kar ston yen)- 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar - Western Massachusetts overheard quote from work: "I'm not the right person to be discussing this with because I what I think doesn't make a bit of difference" (sigh) ride safe!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 14:05:11 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 14:04:33 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 12:02:27 -0700 02 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[331B4040:01BFFCB4] >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Gene Royal >Do any of you know of floorboards for a PC? I am having to have a > >modified shifter fabricated for me because My left leg is artificial. > >I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as "heel" "heel" > >rather than "heel - toe." I haven't heard of or seen anyone putting floorboards on a PC, but I imagine that it could be done due to the location of the sub-frame members under the bottom plastic. You'd probably have to find someone with some metal working and welding skills. Keep us posted! I'd like to find out how it works out. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:41:53 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:41:33 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 14:41:26 -0700 02 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:41:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Allis Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[69268A30:01BFFCCA] I can vouch for this method with non-leather suits too!!!! I recently rode my PC from Washington DC to Wilmington NC on I-95 all the way -- 360 miles or so on the hottest and most humid day I could. I wore my First Gear Kilmanjaro jacket and matching pants. I stayed cool because I carried a gallon of water in the PC trunk and stopped about once every 100 miles to drink and re-wet the shirt. People looked at me kind of funny. Doug Allis >What helps in really hot weather is to >saturate your teeshirt and put it on under the leather jacket. It >keeps you cool for about an hour, which is one hour less of hot, and >reduces the hospital stay by the same amount as a dry teeshirt under >a leather jacket. > >Betty Lise Anderson, ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 17:12:21 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 17:12:15 -0500 (CDT) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29EF5B2 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 18:12:13 -0400 (EDT) by snah6.nsr.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id PAA23118 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:12:13 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:12:15 -0700 From: Peter Noeth Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Actually, as I have said before, in California lane splitting is NEITHER LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. It is not covered anywhere in the Vehicle Code, nor in any driving handbook. It exists primarily because there is no law specifically prohibiting more than one vehicle in a lane of traffic, i.e. being able to pull over to the right of the right lane to make a right turn, where no specific right turn lane exists. The police and CHP take advantage of it to get to accident sights, but do not do it in normal course anywhere as much as normal citizens. Some times you may see motorcycle officers riding parallel with each other, two vehicles sharing the same lane. It is illegal to travel in either the left or right shoulder to accomplish the same thing (left of the yellow line or right of the white line). You can get a ticket for lane splitting in California if any law officer perceives you are doing it unsafely, but only a motorcycle officer would have any chance of catching you. That call is pretty much arbitrary, but the rule as it has been explained to me by several motorcycle police and CHP officers is to only do it when traffic is stopped, don't go faster than 10mph, and when traffic starts moving again, you must get back into the normal traffic flow. However I have never seen anyone actually get pulled over for doing it, whether traffic was stopped or just moving slowly. Lane splitting is not "legal" in California, but it is tolerated. I don't know how that rumor got started. There is also an old law on the California books that prohibits talking on a mobile telephone while driving that was enacted back in the 60's when mobile phones (like ship to shore phones) were only for the very rich. This was because the thing used a standard telephone handset, and since you had to use one hand to hold it to your head to use it, you only had one hand to control the vehicle. I am surprised law enforcement has not seen the similiarity to cell phones. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer > ---------- > From: Revill Dunn[SMTP:revill.dunn@amd.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:46 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting > > On Aug 1, 6:34pm, Thomas E. Humphrey II wrote: > > Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear, and Road Rage > > Hey! > > Lane splitting (California style) is not stupid. In fact, studies show it > > is not risky, statistically speaking, WHEN DONE PROPERLY. > > In traffic here, lane splitting can cut your commute time in half! > > Duhhhhh - if it were either illegal or risky, would the Calif. Highway > > Patrol do it? > > Yes, it LOOKS dangerous, and it can be if not done properly. But it is > > legal in CA and it is a godsend to a rider on an overheating air cooled bike > > in stop and go traffic. > > Come to California and learn to do it, and you will smile BIG while > > releasing maximum adrenalin while you are splitting lanes. > > Tom in Clayton, CA > > OK Tom. In California, split away. But Please, Please don't come to Texas > and > do it. The cagers get the idea that scooters don't need a whole lane, and > they > try to share. SCAREY! > > Revill > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:13:07 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:04:44 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:37 -0400 From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Subject: PC800: Metal fatigue and electrical wires To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is just a heads up to those of you, like me, who install their own extra electiecal doo dads from time to time. Be sure to give any wires routed around the forks enough slack to move. A couple of years ago I installed a Battery Monitor (tri-color LED) from Sport Touring Accessories on the front fairing just in front of the ignition key hole. Last year it went dead and my troubleshooting found one of the wires into the inline fuse holder had broken off at the solder joint, metal fatrgue from bending back and forth with the front forks. Totally my fault because of the way I secured the wires. I resoldered, rerouted the wires and all has been well until last week when the LED was again out. This time I found the two leads from the base of the LED had broken off, no solder repair possible this time. Apparently in my zeal to keep the wires from flexing too much at the fuse holder end I did not allow enough slack in the wires leading to the LED. Of well, live and learn. I have a new one on order and will be more careful next time. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:12:28 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:07:58 -0500 (CDT) ([216.164.128.61] helo=cummings) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13K5k4-0000La-00; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:07:57 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:07:56 -0400 From: Roy Cummings Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: Revill Dunn , Pacific Coast Net X-MSMail-priority: Normal <1000802084423.ZM15820@jarvik> Revill, A few years ago, and probably now, Mercedes had a feature that allowed the driver to use the horn is just this way. Perhaps it was an urban vs. rural setting, or something like that. If you're serious, a call to a M-B parts department might provide you with a simple modification. In any event, I think air horns are required! Roy Cummings '98 PC > Doesn't work for suburbans. They finish changing lanes, then look around. > I'm still looking for a set of two level horns; "excuse me please" and > "thermonuclear". > > Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:22:01 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:18:05 -0500 (CDT) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.10.0/Voyager) with ESMTP id e72LHDl29521; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:17:13 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:20:57 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph To: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Michael, Time to take your medicine. ROFLMAO Thomas > Michael S. Prapuolenis wrote: > > Is it just because I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone > else think this subject line was about something lewd? ; ) > > Mp -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:13:30 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:08:02 -0500 (CDT) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) 02 Aug 2000 14:08:02 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:07:52 -0500 From: Ralph Couey Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph To: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_dsNWOiV0+jJr04YW3c003w)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_dsNWOiV0+jJr04YW3c003w) I think you call that activity "Unsafe at ANY speed"! =20 --Ralph ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael S. Prapuolenis=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph Is it just because I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone = else think this subject line was about something lewd? ; ) =20 Mp --Boundary_(ID_dsNWOiV0+jJr04YW3c003w)
I think you call that activity "Unsafe = at ANY=20 speed"! 
 
--Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael S.=20 Prapuolenis
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, = 2000 10:18=20 AM
Subject: PC800: RE: Getting off = at 30=20 mph

Is = it just because=20 I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone else think this = subject=20 line was about something lewd?  ; )
 
Mp
--Boundary_(ID_dsNWOiV0+jJr04YW3c003w)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 14:16:52 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 14:12:35 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" >Is it just because I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone >else >think this subject line was about something lewd? ; ) Hmmm, Michael, it didn't cross my mind until you brought it up! Could it possibly be that you're home "sick" today for something that you had to have a penicillin shot for? Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:13:43 -0500 (CDT) (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:08:51 -0500 (CDT) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e72L8Vj144740; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:08:31 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:08:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph To: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hey; maybe we can form our own version of a "mile-high club"! (The rules would be that you'd have to be wearing full, properly-vented riding gear, summer gloves, with a "tupperwear" sticker slapped on your hands-free cell phone.) ..."Darth" Beau ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: August 2, 2000 3:18:15 PM GMT Subject: PC800: RE: Getting off at 30 mph Is it just because I'm home sick today, semi delirious, or did anyone else think this subject line was about something lewd? ; ) Mp -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 13:58:41 -0500 (CDT) (lsanca1-ar4-103-254.biz.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.103.254]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 13:58:28 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 11:59:12 -0700 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:59:11 -0700 From: Jeff Krause Subject: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting - A simple rule will do... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu If you want to split lanes at reasonable risk, a simple rule will do: If the traffic is less than 5 mph, I may split. (If I just can't resist the urge). If it is above 5 mph, I never split. The lanes in California are not generous, and most of the time the drivers are staggering around their lanes so much that I find that it is literally impossible to squeeze between the cars anyway. - Only 30% of the times when they are nearly stopped can I actually get through. I'd rather bide my time and let the drivers admire my PC 'til it is safe to go! Of course, Stop-and-go in the Santa Barbara area only happens during certain hours, not all day. Maybe I would feel different then. Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 Mhz" 42,000 mi Santa Barbara County -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Revill Dunn [mailto:revill.dunn@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:47 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting On Aug 1, 6:34pm, Thomas E. Humphrey II wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear, and Road Rage > Hey! > Lane splitting (California style) is not stupid. In fact, studies show it > is not risky, statistically speaking, WHEN DONE PROPERLY. > In traffic here, lane splitting can cut your commute time in half! > Duhhhhh - if it were either illegal or risky, would the Calif. Highway > Patrol do it? > Yes, it LOOKS dangerous, and it can be if not done properly. But it is > legal in CA and it is a godsend to a rider on an overheating air cooled bike > in stop and go traffic. > Come to California and learn to do it, and you will smile BIG while > releasing maximum adrenalin while you are splitting lanes. > Tom in Clayton, CA OK Tom. In California, split away. But Please, Please don't come to Texas and do it. The cagers get the idea that scooters don't need a whole lane, and they try to share. SCAREY! Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 15:59:18 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 15:51:54 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 16:51:16 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:53:29 -0700 From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: lane sharing To: Jesus Soriano , Revill Dunn , pc800@hpc.uh.edu The Hurt report from the mid 1980s demonstrated through the statistics gathered that motorcycles safely executing the "Lane Sharing" technique were in much safe than sitting in stopped or slow traffic. I have "Lane Shared" for over ten years in the SF Bay area and I can tell you I would never want to give it up. It is one of the major reasons I ride to work. The California Highway Patrol are the major proponent of Lane Sharing here in California. They DO NOT want it to become illegal because they themselves would not be allowed to do in the regular course of duties. If it became illegal, the only time they could do it was when they are responding to a specifically dispatched call. I will admit there are many people who are IDIOTS who do lane share in a VERY unsafe manner, but it can be accomplished without difficulty. Jim Alexander At 11:58 PM 08/01/2000 -0700, Jesus Soriano wrote: > > >--- Revill Dunn wrote: > > > Not to mention "lane sharing" motorcycles, a stunt > > so stupid that everyone who > > ever does such a thing should be fitted for a > > shroud. They'll need it soon > >I hope you are wrong and that I won't be needing mine >for a while yet. Anyway, if you drove a bike >frequently in Southern California you'll certainly >learn how to do it. It may be more dangerous, but it's >the only way to go. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. >http://invites.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 15:32:01 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 15:11:05 -0500 (CDT) by mail.tyler.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:09:07 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:10:43 -0500 From: Steve Wilson Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Anal Cellphone holder To: Revill Dunn , pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal <20000801215440.P25063@outhouse.cisco.com> <03c501bffc36$d9bdee80$d45932cf@tcac.net> <1000802085547.ZM15926@jarvik> I heard that the sticker is already available but it reads" Would you drive any better with that cell phone up your ass?" If your friend makes some I would like about a dozen. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" > > "Would you drive any better with your cellphone up your ass?" > > I have a friend who makes bumperstickers for a living. If I may, I'd like to > offer this one to him. May I? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 12:19:06 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 12:18:07 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 10:17:52 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:17:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Desmond Cockburn Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms To: Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >From: "Pickett, Bruce D" >Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "squid"? snip, snip. Hey Bruce, A squid, in motorcycle parlance, is a person who operates a sport bike in a manner that resembles the actions of a member of the cephalopod family, order Teuthoidea, namely, they "squirt" from place to place in traffic in an erratic and unpredictable manner. There is no known origin to the word and probably any other word could be used to name this species of motorcyclis riderlinsis. The squid usually makes his and sometimes her appearance around age 18 and seldom reaches an advanced age. Most squids are male. Many young squid can be see washed up on the sides of major highways and high traffic streets intermingled with the remains of their mount, ie, sport bike. Some squids do finally come to understand that they are mortal and leave behind their squidish skins to become responsible motorcyclists. Squids can be identified by their uniform or usually lack of same. The usual attire consists of shorts, flip flops or low cut shoes without socks, designer sunglasses and tee shirt or tank top. Head wear is optional but is usually a baseball cap with the bill pointed down the back. There have been reports of squids wearing top of the line full face helmets with expensive graphic designs but I have never seen one. During the squid mating season, which is usually the summer months, the female squids are attached to the back of the sport bike in much the same attire. Squid movement is usually in a forward direction and usually at a very high rate of speed as they dart in and out of the schools and herds of cagers. Squids can seemingly appear out of nowhere, singley or in groups and disappear into the traffic flow with the blink of an eye. The cager's usual response is a curious hand signal followed by "Damn motorcycle riders" hence giving the non squid rider another reason to be careful should they encounter these same cagers later in the day. Squids can usually be seen around popular teen and young adult hangouts as well as large sport bike dealerships. Squid watching and the reporting of bizarre squid behavior is a popular hobby of the non-squid motorcycle rider. I hope this helps you identify the squids in your neighborhood. Des ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 10:48:27 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 10:42:25 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:37 -0400 From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Subject: PC800: Metal fatigue and electrical wires To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is just a heads up to those of you, like me, who install their own extra electiecal doo dads from time to time. Be sure to give any wires routed around the forks enough slack to move. A couple of years ago I installed a Battery Monitor (tri-color LED) from Sport Touring Accessories on the front fairing just in front of the ignition key hole. Last year it went dead and my troubleshooting found one of the wires into the inline fuse holder had broken off at the solder joint, metal fatrgue from bending back and forth with the front forks. Totally my fault because of the way I secured the wires. I resoldered, rerouted the wires and all has been well until last week when the LED was again out. This time I found the two leads from the base of the LED had broken off, no solder repair possible this time. Apparently in my zeal to keep the wires from flexing too much at the fuse holder end I did not allow enough slack in the wires leading to the LED. Of well, live and learn. I have a new one on order and will be more careful next time. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 10:57:21 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 10:56:58 -0500 (CDT) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:54:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:56:47 -0500 From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson Subject: PC800: Cheese Days (PARADE OUT - Cheese Gone Flat) To: William Drake , PC 800 LIST Reply-to: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson boundary="Boundary_(ID_vcRSzNhIKeS8XLhzAFcLiQ)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal <39880DF8.D882D9EB@mediaone.net> --Boundary_(ID_vcRSzNhIKeS8XLhzAFcLiQ) OK, Here's the scoop... =20 Cheese days is a celebration of the Swiss Heritage in Monroe, WI. = Monroe is in South Central Wisconsin, and about an hour drive from = Rockford. (Of course that hour is via nice scenic back roads!). I = called today to inquire about the parade (FINALLY) and they said the = parade entries are closed. Besides, we would have to come up with = something 'cheesy' to do with our bikes. Really, the entries need to = have something to do with cheese or Swiss Heritage. Since I have only = ever seen one PC that was yellow (in another country), I thought it = would be difficult to enter us in the parade. I had the idea of cutting = some paper holes and sticking them to my WHITE PC and calling it the = "ROLLING WHITE SWISS", but I decided that would not be possible for = those OTHER colors (since there is no such thing as RED or BLACK = cheese). =20 So, I figured we would forget riding in the parade, but we could ride TO = the parade and then go up to New Glarus, WI (about 15 minutes) and do = some scenic riding around that area--maybe even up to Madison, WI and = seeing the Capitol. (I'm not responsible for the navigator that sits = behind me--the one that knows downtown Madison the best) So, anyone still interested? We could meet in Rockford, IL, Janesville = or Beloit, WI and ride to Monroe from there. Catch the parade, (and = Yes, TODD--it's BYOB-Bring Your Own BUCKET) eat some cheese and deep = fried cheese curds, and RIDE ON to points unknown. (sounds like a bad = 50's TV show huh?) Anyone interested in taking in the sights, sounds, smells and taste of = CHEESE in Monroe Wisconsin should contact me. =20 This sounds like fun time for a couple of "Virgin PC Group Riders." = We've never ridden with any other PCers before. Did I mention there is CHEESE there yet? Can you smell it yet? Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net --Boundary_(ID_vcRSzNhIKeS8XLhzAFcLiQ)
OK, Here's the scoop...   
 
Cheese days is a celebration of the Swiss Heritage in Monroe,=20 WI.  Monroe is in South Central Wisconsin, and about an hour drive = from=20 Rockford.  (Of course that hour is via nice scenic back = roads!).  I=20 called today to inquire about the parade (FINALLY) and they said the = parade=20 entries are closed.  Besides, we would have to come up with = something=20 'cheesy' to do with our bikes.  Really, the entries need to have = something=20 to do with cheese or Swiss Heritage.  Since I have only ever seen = one PC=20 that was yellow (in another country), I thought it would be = difficult to=20 enter us in the parade.  I had the idea of cutting some paper holes = and=20 sticking them to my WHITE PC and calling it the "ROLLING WHITE=20 SWISS", but I decided that would not be possible for those OTHER = colors=20 (since there is no such thing as RED or BLACK cheese). 
 
So, I figured we would forget riding in the parade, but we = could ride=20 TO the parade and then go up to New Glarus, WI (about 15 minutes) and do = some=20 scenic riding around that area--maybe even up to Madison, WI and seeing = the=20 Capitol.   (I'm not responsible for the navigator that = sits=20 behind me--the one that knows downtown Madison the best)
 
So, anyone still interested?  We could meet in Rockford, IL,=20 Janesville or Beloit, WI and ride to Monroe from there.  Catch the = parade,=20 (and Yes, TODD--it's BYOB-Bring Your Own BUCKET) eat some cheese and = deep fried=20 cheese curds, and RIDE ON to points unknown.  (sounds like a bad = 50's TV=20 show huh?)
 
Anyone interested in taking in the sights, sounds, smells and taste = of=20 CHEESE in Monroe Wisconsin should contact me. 
 
This sounds like fun time for a couple of "Virgin PC Group=20 Riders."   We've never ridden with any other PCers = before.
 
Did I mention there is CHEESE there yet?  Can you smell it = yet?
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 PC (Video 1)
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
--Boundary_(ID_vcRSzNhIKeS8XLhzAFcLiQ)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 11:09:16 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 11:08:03 -0500 (CDT) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:05:53 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:07:32 -0500 From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson Subject: PC800: Cheese Days Ride DATE HERE! To: PC 800 LIST Reply-to: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson boundary="Boundary_(ID_+jwGYdzpCY2qP4xkaACx/w)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_+jwGYdzpCY2qP4xkaACx/w) DATE: September 17, 2000 Meeting PLACE: UNDECIDED (Suggestions? should be convenient for all = riders) LOCATION of PARADE: Monroe, WI TIME of PARADE: 12:30 (Noon) Contact: =20 Mike & Marlisa Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net --Boundary_(ID_+jwGYdzpCY2qP4xkaACx/w)
DATE:  September 17, 2000
 
Meeting PLACE:  UNDECIDED  (Suggestions? should be = convenient for=20 all riders)
 
LOCATION of PARADE:  Monroe, WI
 
TIME of PARADE:  12:30 (Noon)
 
Contact: 

Mike & Marlisa Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 PC (Video = 1)
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
--Boundary_(ID_+jwGYdzpCY2qP4xkaACx/w)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 07:40:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 07:40:32 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:40:29 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dave Bartlett >We both made some mistakes. I should > have made myself more visible by either riding further up the side > of her vehicle, or further back so she couldn't have hit me, or > I should have used the horn (which may or may not have helped), > and lastly, I could have slowed down and let her in front of me. Agreed. No. 1 priority is to get out of the way. No. 2 priority is to make LOUD noises. Hope you have decent aftermarket horns. Staying clear is the best you can do. Don't put yourself, and don't allow yourself to be put, in a position where you can get hit. Remember that time-honored mammalian survival tradition: be small, furry, and STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY! >Personally... I am thinking about putting the bumper sticker that says >"Would you drive any better with your cellphone in your ass?" I like: "Horn broken. Watch for finger." -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 16:22:43 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 16:20:17 -0500 (CDT) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.10.1/Voyager) with ESMTP id e72LQV042269; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:26:31 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:23:13 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive policyholders To: Great Ned Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hmmm, Mine has been like that for the three years or so that I have been with them. In fact, left Midwest (Guidan, or whatever the hell they are now) because they wouldn't put all four bikes on one policy. Progressive (who I really don't like) would and saved me a couple of hundred a year by doing so. Thomas > Great Ned wrote: > > Hi PCPals-- > > If you own multiple bikes, this may be of interest: > > In re-upping my insurance for my Cushman yesterday I discovered that > Progressive has done another aboutface on policy policy and now will > put two bikes on one. It was considerable savings for me over the > previous setup. > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > > > -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 14:16:15 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 14:08:57 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 12:08:50 -0700 02 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: lane sharing To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[1784C300:01BFFCB5] --- Revill Dunn wrote: > Not to mention "lane sharing" motorcycles, a stunt so stupid that > everyone who ever does such a thing should be fitted for a > shroud. They'll need it soon I saw this post and the ones that speak to "lane splitting". If you're talking about "lane sharing" as opposed to "lane splitting", I agree with you, Revill. I had a moron down in southern Arizona keep trying to lane share with me on a ride once. I tried to convince him that I wasn't going to play "CHIPS" with him, but he persisted. So I just took the next exit and took a long enough break to ensure that I wouldn't run into him again. As for lane splitting--I've done it and it's definitely scary. But in southern CA traffic jams sometimes it's the only way to get anywhere. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 14:17:04 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 14:14:21 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:13:53 -0400 From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Subject: Re(2): PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: >>----Original Message Follows---- >>From: Gene Royal > >>Do any of you know of floorboards for a PC? I am having to have a >> >modified shifter fabricated for me because My left leg is artificial. >> >I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as "heel" "heel" >> >rather than "heel - toe." > >I haven't heard of or seen anyone putting floorboards on a PC, but I imagine >that it could be done due to the location of the sub-frame members under the >bottom plastic. You'd probably have to find someone with some metal working >and welding skills. > >Keep us posted! I'd like to find out how it works out. > > >Tim "Scuffy" Macy >Newberg, OR > >Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) >STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) > >AMA #492485 >HRCA #239441 >HSTA #6030 >RCMC >STOC #1571 There was a white Pacific Coast at the Honda HomeComing in '98 & '99 that had floor boards installed in place of the pegs. He said he did them himself and it was not difficult to do. I spoke with him in '98, but at the time my bike was only a week old so I wasn't much interested in too many modifications. His bike was spotted last year with a printed description of the installation of the floor boards left on the seat, but no one copied it down. I'm not even sure which state he was from, but I can confirm it is possible and has been done. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 13:58:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 13:58:38 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 11:58:36 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Great Ned >One of my recent stories here at CNN was on drivers who chat on their >cellphones while in traffic--and just how much they pose a threat to >other >drivers--especially motorcyclists. I'd be interested to hear what >the rest >of you think about that. This is one of those threads that just begs EVERYBODY to stick in a line or two! (Check my sig, BTW). My stance is pretty much what has already been said--hard to revisit old lines that were probably better penned. Suffice it to say that I make it a practice to watch very carefully what the bobbing head AND the vehicle is doing. If a cell phone is involved I know for certain that: 1 - The bobbing head is not paying full attention to the road. 2 - If there are any changes in direction, there will be NO attempt to use a turn signal. 3 - Any offensive action on my part (such as making "hang up!" motions) will do nothing positive. 4 - I'm getting the hell away from the offender as quickly as possible. Don't always assume that there's a cell phone involved. Not long ago I was cruising down a western Washington County highway when I came up behind a Cadillac that was doing about 60% of the posted speed...and not keeping a very straight line in the lane. When I was able to pass safely, I pulled alongside only to see...the driver reading the Sunday paper draped across the steering wheel! I can only assume that he was reading the comics, because he was too F______G stupid to read anything else! As for Road Rage: Nan's got a saying that fits the motorcyclist's plight. "You may be in the right, but you're only going to be DEAD right." She's been working on me for years to curb my more righteous anger when I'm the target of stupidity. Now that I'm on the road 100% of the time on a motorcycle (don't own a car any more) I've FINALLY learned that I'm the only one who'll suffer in a confrontation. Was it on this list or another one where the story was related about a motorcyclist who got into a Road Rage confrontation with a truck? He went roaring ahead of the truck, swerved in front of it, and slammed on the brakes. He died instantly in the ensuing crash. Duh..... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 12:40:44 -0500 (CDT) (lsanca1-ar4-103-254.biz.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.103.254]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 12:40:38 -0500 (CDT) 02 Aug 2000 10:41:03 -0700 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:41:02 -0700 From: Jeff Krause Subject: PC800: RE: Accident coverage and the politics of safety To: Pacific Coast List Posting Thanks to all for the ME880 responses. RE: Media accident coverage: What does the AMA (or other organizations) do to promote auto driver awareness of motorcycles? I realize these orgs are for "us" motorcyclists, but I think one of the best things memberships could finance is PR with emphasis on the common "invisibility factor" in many MC/auto accidents. Instead, we only get rider training programs designed to train us to be better at dealing with invisibility (to be safer victims). - Which is very good, but.. I find it analogous to the way Europe (generalizing here) has always seemed to focus on driver training, building good-handling cars and maintained roads (generalizing again). whereas in the U.S., driver training was (is) minimized along with little demand for good-handling cars, and crumbling streets and highways that only get repaved in the very best parts of town. We Americans have "simplified" this by demanding cars that just "crash safer", resulting in the growth of a gargantuan auto insurance industry just to keep up with it. Avoiding just some of these accidents would be alot less expensive approach overall. As usual, a pounds of cure is favored over any amount of prevention. Are there any orgs out there that spend a little on driver awareness (in addition to rider safety)? Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 Mhz" 42,000 mi (16K so far this year!) Santa Barbara County -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paul Atkins [mailto:patkins99@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:02 PM To: Pacific Coast List Posting Subject: PC800: Accident coverage Hello all, This past sunday evening, two motorcyclists in Green Bay had their right of way violated by a car driver of 17 years old, who apparently pulled out of a side street onto a busy highway in front of the bikes. The accident got big TV coverage due to the high rate of accidents on this particular highway. Only one report that I heard ID'd the car driver as at fault. Both bikers were injured and one woman is still in critical condition. One reporter, when describing the accident, said the car driver "did not see" the bikers. I sure wish reporters would use these occasions to stress that car drivers should "see" riders and to educate the public about this issue. It's a pet peeve of mine. Another is the way bike accidents are reported in the paper too. Sometimes they ID the particular bike. ie. a "harley". curious, eh? Anywy, lets pray for those riders... Paul in Green Bay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 13:43:16 -0500 (CDT) (slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com [12.13.237.21]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 13:43:09 -0500 (CDT) by slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id LAA01874 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:50 -0700 (PDT) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA19998 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:49 -0700 (PDT) for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:37 -0700 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:42:33 -0700 From: "Pickett, Bruce D" Subject: PC800: Squids To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Des, Thanks for informing me of the significance of the term "squid". Another friend (a Harley rider, but nonetheless a nice guy) sent me a link to "The Official, Sanctioned DoD Squid Purity Test(tm)" (http://www.micapeak.com/WetLeather/pages/squid_purity.txt). Its a text file that is dated 1993 and it will allow you to calculate your "Squid percentage", if you can make it through the thousand questions on the test. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn [mailto:tourrider@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:18 AM To: Bruce.Pickett@PSS.Boeing.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms >From: "Pickett, Bruce D" >Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "squid"? snip, snip. Hey Bruce, A squid, in motorcycle parlance, is a person who operates a sport bike in a manner that resembles the actions of a member of the cephalopod family, order Teuthoidea, namely, they "squirt" from place to place in traffic in an erratic and unpredictable manner. There is no known origin to the word and probably any other word could be used to name this species of motorcyclis riderlinsis. The squid usually makes his and sometimes her appearance around age 18 and seldom reaches an advanced age. Most squids are male. Many young squid can be see washed up on the sides of major highways and high traffic streets intermingled with the remains of their mount, ie, sport bike. Some squids do finally come to understand that they are mortal and leave behind their squidish skins to become responsible motorcyclists. Squids can be identified by their uniform or usually lack of same. The usual attire consists of shorts, flip flops or low cut shoes without socks, designer sunglasses and tee shirt or tank top. Head wear is optional but is usually a baseball cap with the bill pointed down the back. There have been reports of squids wearing top of the line full face helmets with expensive graphic designs but I have never seen one. During the squid mating season, which is usually the summer months, the female squids are attached to the back of the sport bike in much the same attire. Squid movement is usually in a forward direction and usually at a very high rate of speed as they dart in and out of the schools and herds of cagers. Squids can seemingly appear out of nowhere, singley or in groups and disappear into the traffic flow with the blink of an eye. The cager's usual response is a curious hand signal followed by "Damn motorcycle riders" hence giving the non squid rider another reason to be careful should they encounter these same cagers later in the day. Squids can usually be seen around popular teen and young adult hangouts as well as large sport bike dealerships. Squid watching and the reporting of bizarre squid behavior is a popular hobby of the non-squid motorcycle rider. I hope this helps you identify the squids in your neighborhood. Des ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 11:16:38 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 11:15:24 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:15:22 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:18:47 -0500 From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" Subject: PC800: Re: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_pm02TQEZg0YaMUQA0E6UFg)" Importance: Normal X-MSMail-priority: Normal --Boundary_(ID_pm02TQEZg0YaMUQA0E6UFg) Local bike shop I frequent, DGY in Downer's Grove, recently had a sale closing out their Joe Rocket collection of armored jackets. Well the leather was getting a tad hot and heavy so I ended up picking up a Meteor jacket in black and yellow, for only a $150. High-visibility, seemingly well padded, but also fairly light and breathable. Used it the following weekend and was delighted by the comfort. Even got used to the squidish colors... in fact kinda like em now! I thought that I was protected and styling! So imagine my concern the other day as I read MCN (Aug) letters to the editor. The president of Motoport (rider wear) was taking MCN to task for not including their products, clearly superior according to him, in a recent comparison and discussion on abrasion protection. In his comments he pointed out that Joe Rocket 600 Denier Rocktex can melt into your skin in even an at low speed crashes. Ouch! That can't be good. So some of the luster of my new jacket is now gone. Nonetheless, all things considered, I think that is better than no jacket, or a denim jacket, ... I think. I also bought a pair of all season Olympia gloves. All leather providing great protection, all the way above the wrist. Gel in the palm really does prevent numbness. IMHO very well made. And most importantly it feels great on, which means I'll wear them more often than not. Ride Safe!! Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois --Boundary_(ID_pm02TQEZg0YaMUQA0E6UFg)
Local = bike=20 shop I frequent, DGY in Downer's Grove, recently had a sale closing = out=20 their Joe Rocket collection of armored jackets.  Well the leather = was=20 getting a tad hot and heavy so I ended up picking up a Meteor jacket in = black=20 and yellow, for only a $150.  High-visibility, seemingly well = padded, but=20 also fairly light and breathable. Used it the following weekend and = was=20 delighted by the comfort.  Even got used to the squidish colors... = in fact=20 kinda like em now!  I thought that I was protected and=20 styling!
 
So = imagine my=20 concern the other day as I read MCN (Aug) letters to the editor.  = The=20 president of Motoport (rider wear) was taking MCN to task for not = including=20 their products, clearly superior according to him, in a recent = comparison and=20 discussion on abrasion protection. In his comments he pointed out that = Joe=20 Rocket 600 Denier Rocktex can melt into your skin in even an at low = speed=20 crashes.  Ouch!  That can't be good. So some of the luster of = my new=20 jacket is now gone. Nonetheless, all things considered, I think that is = better=20 than no jacket, or a denim jacket, ... I think.  =
 
I also = bought a pair=20 of all season Olympia gloves. All leather providing great = protection, all=20 the way above the wrist. Gel in the palm really does prevent = numbness. =20 IMHO very well made.  And most importantly it feels great on, which = means=20 I'll wear them more often than not. 
 
Ride=20 Safe!!
Michael =
Prapuolenis
'94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic
Wheaton, Illinois

 

--Boundary_(ID_pm02TQEZg0YaMUQA0E6UFg)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 17:55:29 -0500 (CDT) (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:55:23 -0500 (CDT) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA18241; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:59:24 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:53:22 -0500 From: William Drake Subject: Re: PC800: Starved Rock Run Lodging To: "R. Fenwick" Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Rich, Thanks for the tip on the Wyndham, It is a nice hotel in a nice area. The info I was given was from the front desk of each property I called. Since Rich found a cheaper rate, dinner is on him, lol, just kidding Rich. There is also a Fairfield Inn and Courtyard by Marriott in the same area, but will leave to anyone who is interested in those properties to call Thanks again Rich for the tip Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL "R. Fenwick" wrote: > > Regarding lodging for the Starved Rock ride... > > I have reserved a room at the Wyndham Garden Hotel (the last one mentioned > on Bill's list below) for $54.00 (fifty-four dollars) a night.... How? > > Go to www.travelweb.com and place your reservation there. Wyndham extends > these bargain rates to those who book their rooms via Travel Web. > > These $54 rooms have no restrictions that I could find, and can be > cancelled up until 6pm of the day of arrival. The Wyndham is a *very* > nice place for that rate. I am confident that this rate is the lowest you > will find of all the properties that Bill listed. > > I have stayed many a night at the Wyndham, since I used to work out of > Naperville and live in Champaign. > > A picture and info about the Naperville Wyndham can be viewed at: > www.wyndham.com > > If you have any questions... Let me know... > > Rich Fenwick > 1990 PC800 > http://pc_800.tripod.com > fenwick@nn.com > HRCA - HM725413 > > At 08:50 PM 08/01/2000 -0500, William Drake wrote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >I have had some requests for lodging in the Naperville area and here > >are some: > > > >Hampton Inn 1087 W. Diehl Rd 630-505-1400 $79/night > > > >Holiday Inn 1801 N. Naper Blvd. 630-606-4900 $89/night > > > >Red Roof Inn 1698 W. Diehl Rd 630-369-2500 $73/night > > > >Raddison Hotel 3000 Warrenville rd Lisle 630-505-1000 $89/night > > > >Wyndham Garden Hotel 1837 Centre Point 630-505-3353 S94/nght(suites) > > > >all are subject to tax and other incidentals. not sure how cheap of > >lodging anybody coming overnight were looking for, but I thought I'd > >go with the big names as they are safe & clean. There is a cheap motel > >I can check on if anyone needs(it goes by the week or month) > > > >Also there are bars and restaurants through out the area around the > >motels > >and a 30 screen movie theater. > > > >If anyone needs any more info let me know and will post updates weekly. > > > >so far we have 8 possible coasters and 3 non coasters possibly riding so > >far, so keep your fingers crossed for good weather. > > > >Bill Drake > >Bolingbrook, IL > >'97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" > >PCRC, HRCA, AMA > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 11:38:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 11:38:02 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:37:55 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: List-PC800 Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident The Associated Press 8/1/00 6:36 AM http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?a0503_BC_BRF--NoHelmet-Death&&news&newsflash-national FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) -- A motorcycling enthusiast who applauded the state's new helmet-free law has died as a result of a motorcycle accident in which she wasn't wearing a helmet. Dorthy Lynette Rushton, 40, smashed her Harley-Davidson early Saturday morning and was thrown more than 50 feet. She died Monday from injuries she sustained in the crash. Rushton probably would have survived had she been wearing a helmet, said Florida Highway Patrol Cpl. John Schultz. He said alcohol was a factor but the lack of a helmet "greatly" contributed to her injuries. Gov. Jeb Bush last month signed into law a measure to let motorcyclists age 21 and older ride without helmets if they carry $10,000 in insurance. It took effect July 1. Friends said motorcycle riding was Rushton's passion -- especially without a helmet. "Lyn wanted to do what she could, even in her death," close friend Kristi Piscitelli said. "She knew this could happen." Copyright 2000 Associated Press. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:23:40 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:25:54 -0700 To: Peter Noeth , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Jim Alexander Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting hp.com> Sorry to disagree with you Peter. Lane Sharing is legal as this is no California Vehicle Code violation to cover the practice. If an CHP officer wants to write you up he CANNOT write up a ticket "Lane Splitting" or Lane Sharing". He can write you up for various other things such as unsafe lane change, unsafe passing, failing to stay within one lane (i.e. straddling the line), and probably a dozen other violations, but not Lane Sharing. I have a CHP officer who lives three doors down and is a motorcycle officer. He and I have discussed it. His basic philosophy (and this varies between officers as he has pointed out) is this, if you look safe while you are doing it most officers will not care. If you look like a squid, you can get a ticket. He has written tickets for as bad as reckless driving to some people, but that is rare. He confirmed that the practice is considered legal, but any incident that happens is automatically the fault of the motorcycle rider, so you are taking a risking. At 03:12 PM 08/02/2000 -0700, Peter Noeth wrote: > >However I have never seen anyone actually get pulled over for doing it, >whether >traffic was stopped or just moving slowly. Lane splitting is not "legal" in >California, but it is tolerated. I don't know how that rumor got started. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 19:31:35 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 19:31:33 -0500 (CDT) (tnt8-216-180-71-162.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.71.162]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e730VVj28576 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:31:31 -0500 (CDT) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09749 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:21:06 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:21:06 -0500 From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph "of Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:04:09 PDT." <20000802190409.21074.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Christoffer Carstanjen writes: > > For a free "Drive Now, Talk Later" Car Talk bumper > sticker, just send a self-addressed business-size > envelope with 33 cents postage on it to: > > Bumper Sticker > Car Talk Plaza > Box 3500 Harvard Square > Cambridge, MA 02238 > > > Sorry, we can send only one bumper sticker per > envelope. Want more than one bumpersticker? Great! > Here's how you can get them. > > psst - go to the website to see the bumpersticker... If the new PCRC or PCOC (or whatever) wanted a project they/we could print a bumpersticker proclaiming, "Loud Paint Saves Lives" As a counter to the loud pipe idiots. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 19:25:48 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 19:25:44 -0500 (CDT) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:24:25 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:26:41 -0500 From: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: PC 800 LIST Reply-to: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sounds like we need to make a club similar to the Iron Butt club for riders who ride in full gear all the time. Any suggestions?? Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 4:41 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > I can vouch for this method with non-leather suits too!!!! I recently rode > my PC from Washington DC to Wilmington NC on I-95 all the way -- 360 miles > or so on the hottest and most humid day I could. I wore my First Gear > Kilmanjaro jacket and matching pants. I stayed cool because I carried a > gallon of water in the PC trunk and stopped about once every 100 miles to > drink and re-wet the shirt. People looked at me kind of funny. > > Doug Allis > > > >What helps in really hot weather is to > >saturate your teeshirt and put it on under the leather jacket. It > >keeps you cool for about an hour, which is one hour less of hot, and > >reduces the hospital stay by the same amount as a dry teeshirt under > >a leather jacket. > > > >Betty Lise Anderson, > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 18:13:35 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 18:13:34 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:12:57 -0700 From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) Subject: Re: PC800: Squids To: Bruce.Pickett@pss.boeing.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I believe that the term squid as applied to motorcycles got started by people watching 2 stroke (these are the ones that mix gas and oil, right?) riders squirt away from stops. Think about it, big blue cloud, bike (or scooter) is gone. Squid! Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 20:35:02 -0500 (CDT) (mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.121]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:35:01 -0500 (CDT) by mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25752 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:27:46 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:31:55 -0400 From: Tom <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> Subject: PC800: Driving light kits To: PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Hi folks, Anyone familiar with the Electrical Connection Driving light kit for the PC.Good/bad? Any preference for type of light, seems they offer three types, clear, ion and titanium. Thanks Tom Boynton 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 19:57:40 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 19:57:40 -0500 (CDT) by q4.quik.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA89394; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:57:32 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 18:09:18 -0700 From: Great Ned Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive policyholders To: Thomas Ongstad Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal <39889141.3A0398E6@voyager.net> Me too, Thomas, but one or two years ago they changed to the "one per" notion. If in that period of time you sold a bike and then bought a replacement, you would have ended up having to start a new policy for it. Or so I gather. I am an expert at paying the premiums, not at understanding the industry. Lee ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas Ongstad" To: "Great Ned" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive policyholders > Hmmm, > > Mine has been like that for the three years or so that I have been with > them. In fact, left Midwest (Guidan, or whatever the hell they are now) > because they wouldn't put all four bikes on one policy. Progressive > (who I really don't like) would and saved me a couple of hundred a year > by doing so. > > > > Thomas > > > Great Ned wrote: > > > > Hi PCPals-- > > > > If you own multiple bikes, this may be of interest: > > > > In re-upping my insurance for my Cushman yesterday I discovered that > > Progressive has done another aboutface on policy policy and now will > > put two bikes on one. It was considerable savings for me over the > > previous setup. > > > > Lee Barker > > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > > > > > > > > > -- > 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) > 95Hannigan > 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) > GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 21:45:32 -0500 (CDT) (mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.118]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 21:45:32 -0500 (CDT) (storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.89]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id CD035BA22 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id TAA20054; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:06:53 -0500 (CDT) From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting in CA, my .02 worth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: Inline I have been to Southern California several times. Most times lane splitting by motorcycles was OK. However I remember one bike that tried to go through a traffic jam at a much higher speed than he should have and someone in a parked car opened a car door. It was fatal for the motorcyclist. I was first to the scene but there was no chance for survival. It has its place but not under those circumstances. Be careful out there. Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 20:45:37 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 20:45:36 -0500 (CDT) ([212.58.178.231]:1062 "HELO nossin") by soneramail.nl with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:45:28 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:43:02 +0200 From: Emile Nossin Subject: PC800: Tour de France To: Yetvart , Steve & Tina Sult , Ronald Buijs , Rene & Wytske , Pieter Komen , Paul Tibbe , Maurice en Monique , Martijn Schutte , Marco Reitsema , Marcel Peters , Linda van het Kaar , kester van der spoel , Julie Hendrix , Danny van Nierop , Michel Boll , marjolijn van den Berg , Arjan en Marjolijn , Patricia van der Linden , PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1016281&a=7487689 (not sorted, no text.. still to come.. just raw footage) Bonsoir mes amis, I've returned from the land of insane riders, Le France. I've spent 6 days in a very beautifull country filled with madmen. In France driving fast is a right. Everybody who drives fast seems to get high respect as all the slower species do whatever they can to give way to them. Motorcycle riders are far higher in rank than cagers. Maximum speed on the freeways is 130 km/h (80mph) but nearly everybody drives at 160 km/h (100mph). Motorcycle rider usually much faster. Although it's not legal, passing cars at high speed on the right and splitting lanes at 180 km/h seems to be considered a safe practice and is accepted by both drivers and riders. Car drivers seem to have high respect for motorcycle riders. If they see one coming in behind them they will do everything in their power to make it possible for you to pass. While they are passing a car on the left lane at 160 km/h they will try to drive as much to the left as possible to allow you to pass in between them. French people also love their blinkers... I see talk about traffic jams and lane splitting ? Well, if traffic is slow, let's say 60 mph it's apparently okay to start splitting lanes. I've followed two guys dressed in short sleaved shirts riding a BMW R1100RT and a K1100LT splitting lanes at 65 mph on the Paris ring freeway. They didn't have any high beams on, not even hazard lights. They raced like madmen left and right passed cars at a speed difference of around 20mph sometimes. Oh, and did I mention they were cops ? I've taken some pictures of my quick tour de France of the last 5 days. Since I've gone digital the pictures are allready online but I haven't had time to sort them or put text with them. I will do so later. If anybody would like to see them you can check them out at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1016281&a=7487689 A short summary: I left last friday to pick up a girlfriend (Patricia, she rides a BMW K100RS) who was already in France, north of Bordeaux. On saturday we visited the Remy Martin plant and did a guided tour. We left a bit tipsy then.. On sunday we rode back to Holland in 4 days via the Morvan parc, the Vosges mountains and the Lorraine parc. We only had sleeping bags with us and no reservations anywhere just to see where we would end up. Luckily in this high season we were able to get a place to sleep every night. First a cabin, then a caravan and last night we were able to rent a tent on a camping hidden in a forest without cell phone coverage... talk about primitive...duh... I still have to scan my Norway pics of this year... : ( Gotta love the digital revolution. Enjoy, Emile www.piloot.com ps, my windscreen isn't that clear, I broke it when I put the ST on the sidestand while skipping the procedure to put the sidestand down first. That also broke my left mirror... no comments pleeze... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Stop & Go... Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:01:42 -0700 Hey, all; Based on the advice of another lister, I went ahead and ordered one of = the beaded seat covers from the Whitehorse Press website. I'm going to = give it a try. While I was there, I noticed that they also sell the "Stop & Go" tire = repair kit. It includes some sort of gun device which helps you insert = the plug into the tire and 4 CO2 cartridges. Have any of you tried = this? Is it okay? (I know some of you have recommended the kits sold = at BMW dealers, but there are none conveniently located near me.) Thanks in advance... ..."Darth" Beau conveniently=20 located near me.)
 
Thanks in advance...
 
..."Darth" Beau
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 01:25:39 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 01:25:39 -0500 (CDT) id e.6b.7de684c (4426); Thu, 03 Aug 2000 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go... To: gobeaugo@prodigy.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Please let me know how it works for you! I am going to order one also. I need it for the Starved Rock Run on August 20th. At this point anything would be better than nothing! Todd Sakr 89'PC 16k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 23:31:53 -0500 (CDT) (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 23:31:51 -0500 (CDT) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e734VmR13146; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:31:48 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:32:05 -0700 From: Beau Williams Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: cnorloff@norloff.com, List-PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Re: the post about the helmet-law opponent who died in a crash... ...we're (humans) a strange bunch aren't we? This story reminded me of one I heard on the news just a couple of months ago. Apparently, the Park Service was cracking down on people who were para-jumping (or whatever you call it) off of high cliffs in the park area. They claimed it was too dangerous. (Can you see it coming?...) Several protestors showed up to protest the crackdown by jumping off anyway. One of the protestor's equipment failed and she plummeted to her death. No mention on how long after that the protests continued... ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 23:34:15 -0500 (CDT) (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 23:34:15 -0500 (CDT) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e734YCR118650; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:34:12 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:34:30 -0700 From: Beau Williams Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: Michael & Marlisa Gunderson , PC 800 LIST X-MSMail-priority: Normal ...How 'bout "Armor Alls"? "Darth" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 2 Aug 2000 23:00:33 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 02 Aug 2000 23:00:30 -0500 (CDT) ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:00:28 -0400 (EDT envelope-from markieg@wowzer.com) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:59:36 -0500 From: Mark Gilb Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal This was the topic of a post some months back that produced a web site reference. Although the site doesn't list the PC800, the tone of the site suggests that the owner may work with you to produce some kind of set. It may be worth a try. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/Kellyboards.html Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX Gene Royal wrote.... Do any of you know of floorboards for a PC? I am having to have a modified shifter fabricated for me because My left leg is artificial. I've always ridden GLs with floorboards that I used as "heel" "heel" rather than "heel - toe." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 10:38:07 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 10:37:39 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:37:23 -0700 From: Irene Frost Subject: Re: PC800: Squids To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: irene.frost@hotbot.com Content-language: en X-Sent-Mail: off X-Sender-Ip: 170.160.9.3 I heard somewhere that it was originaly a navy term. Irene Frost '94 "Gazelle" Portland, Oregon -- On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:12:57 Steve Raml wrote: >I believe that the term squid as applied to motorcycles got started by >people watching 2 stroke (these are the ones that mix gas and oil, right?) >riders squirt away from stops. > >Think about it, big blue cloud, bike (or scooter) is gone. Squid! > >Steve > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 07:15:35 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 07:15:32 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:15:29 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: List-PC800 Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams > the Park >Service was cracking down on people who were para-jumping (or whatever you >call it) off of high cliffs in the park area. They claimed it was too >dangerous. (Can you see it coming?...) Several protestors showed up to >protest the crackdown by jumping off anyway. One of the protestor's >equipment failed and she plummeted to her death. The main problems with all this are: 1) how much risk or perceived risk should an individual be allowed to engage in, and 2) what, if any, qualifications should they have to do this? Most people on this list think it's unsafe to ride without a helmet and other protective gear. Most people in the country probably think it's unsafe to ride a motorcycle in any gear. Who's right? -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 11:01:59 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 11:00:45 -0500 (CDT) id x.35.861eb68 (4155) for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Backrest Query... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I know I'm the latest in a long line, but thought I'd ask if any of you have (or know of) a used Hondaline backrest you'd be willing to part with for a reasonable price? I know that the backrests are available still (I have Ann Reid's note about their availability at Honda of Milpitas), but thought I'd exhaust other options before going the retail route. I'm a single dad with a 9-year-old daughter who's not comfortable riding the PC without a backrest. She used to go with me at the slightest suggestion, on my old Honda SilverWing, but the 'wing had a backrest, and she seemed much more secure for some reason, knowing that it was back there. So, since it's almost impossible for me to get out for a ride without taking her along, I'm doing the search for a backrest. If it would help, if any of you with backrests have been lusting after a GIVI top box, I'd be happy to lobby your spouse to approve the purchase as fiscally sound and a wise investment, as long as you'd sell me your old backrest for a reasonable figure! Thanks much! Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 Nata Harli -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 06:17:23 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 06:17:22 -0500 (CDT) id HAA15991; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:17:15 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:17:14 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett Subject: Re: PC800: Metal fatigue and electrical wires pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:37AM -0400 To: PC800 Rider Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: inline On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:37AM -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: -> This is just a heads up to those of you, like me, who install their own extra -> electiecal doo dads from time to time. Be sure to give any wires routed around -> the forks enough slack to move. A couple of years ago I installed a Battery -> Monitor (tri-color LED) from Sport Touring Accessories on the front fairing -> just in front of the ignition key hole. Last year it went dead and my -> troubleshooting found one of the wires into the inline fuse holder had broken -> off at the solder joint, metal fatrgue from bending back and forth with the -> front forks. Totally my fault because of the way I secured the wires. I -> resoldered, rerouted the wires and all has been well until last week when the -> LED was again out. -> -> This time I found the two leads from the base of the LED had broken off, no -> solder repair possible this time. Apparently in my zeal to keep the wires from -> flexing too much at the fuse holder end I did not allow enough slack in the -> wires leading to the LED. Of well, live and learn. I have a new one on order -> and will be more careful next time. I installed an ammeter on my PC.. and I accidently ran the cables OVER the metal bar that the seat sits on. It worked great for a while... but after getting on and off the bike for a while, the metal bar wore through the insulation and eventually shorted it, blowing my main fuse. I would get off the bike, put a new one in, start the bike up... it would work fine, until I sat on it, and then it would blow again. I didn't think the placement of where I ran the wires (along the side, not directly under the seat would be a problem. - dlb -- +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '98 Valkyrie Tourer | | System Administrator | | '99 Valkyrie Interstate | | | | | +----------------------+----------------------+-------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 07:00:25 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 07:00:25 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:00:22 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth > Lane splitting is not "legal" in >California, but it is tolerated. I don't know how that rumor got started. > Probably depends on your view-- if the law tells you what you're allowed to do or what you're not allowed to do. I like our system where we can do what we want unless it's outlawed. So that would make lane-splitting in California "legal". :-) -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: xcontrol@erols.com 3 Aug 2000 17:35:14 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 17:35:11 -0500 (CDT) ([207.172.245.91] helo=computername) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13KTa1-0005S8-00 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:35:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:33:03 -0400 Subject: PC800: Throttle Cable Slack To: PC800 Mailing List Importance: Normal X-MSMail-priority: Normal I noticed a few weeks ago that there is some slack in the throttle cable. If you look at the accelerator on the carbs there is a little slack. When I tightened it, I wasn't driving very well, but I am still new to the clutch, so I think it messed me up. My question is to others who have looked at their, is there any slack or is it basically tight, without actually moving the throttle advance, which is how I would think it should be. I may just start tightening it a bit at a time if this is true. Thanks in advance Chris 98 PC 800 The Tardis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 04:31:04 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 04:31:04 -0500 (CDT) ([212.58.178.231]:1229 "HELO nossin") by soneramail.nl with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:30:40 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:27:52 +0200 From: Emile Nossin Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: Beau Williams , mrgvideo@aeroinc.net, PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal <003f01bffd04$1e2faa40$4150c540@computer> http://www.nanmra.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 04:34:16 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 04:34:16 -0500 (CDT) SMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 02:34:13 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:32:29 +0200 From: Emile Nossin Subject: PC800: 101 ways to drop your bike To: PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://www.twin-performance.nl/101_ways_to_drop_your_bike.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 10:44:44 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 10:42:22 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:42:11 -0700 From: Irene Frost Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: PC 800 LIST Reply-to: irene.frost@hotbot.com Content-language: en X-Sent-Mail: off X-Sender-Ip: 170.160.9.3 Hmmmm...Furnace Butt, Heat Exhaustion Butt, Sweating my a$s off Butt, Get me off of this traffic infested freeway before I collapse Butt..... -- On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:26:41 Michael & Marlisa Gunderson wrote: >Sounds like we need to make a club similar to the Iron Butt club for riders >who ride in full gear all the time. > >Any suggestions?? > >Mike Gunderson >Davis, IL USA >1989 PC (Video 1) >mrgvideo@aeroinc.net > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 17:09:47 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 17:09:43 -0500 (CDT) by mailout.sssnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA12774 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:04:03 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:09:04 -0400 From: Bob Patterson Subject: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="Boundary_(ID_FlivnQ5FcFtX33wxwpZS+w)" --Boundary_(ID_FlivnQ5FcFtX33wxwpZS+w) Here's a letter to the editor that recently appeared in the Akron Ohio Beacon Journal: Motorcyclist using a cell phone, too While driving on Romig Road at Rolling Acres Mall at 5 p.m. on July 21, we witnessed the ultimate in stupidity: a motorcyclist using a cell phone. He held it in his left hand (the clutch control side). As motorcyclists ourselves, we know there are times when one can take his or her hand off the left control and rest it -- but never in a high-traffic rush hour. One has to be alert and ready to pull in the clutch. If that guy had had to make a sudden stop, it would have been a disaster. What is even more disturbing, his passenger was a child. Greg & Peggy Dunn Barberton ....so not all cell phone users are SUV drivers, eh? Bob --Boundary_(ID_FlivnQ5FcFtX33wxwpZS+w) Here's a letter to the editor that recently appeared in the Akron Ohio Beacon Journal:

Motorcyclist using a cell phone, too
While driving on Romig Road at Rolling Acres Mall at 5 p.m. on July 21, we witnessed the ultimate in stupidity: a motorcyclist using a cell phone.
He held it in his left hand (the clutch control side).
As motorcyclists ourselves, we know there are times when one can take his or her hand off the left control and rest it -- but never in a high-traffic rush hour. One has to be alert and ready to pull in the clutch. If that guy had had to make a sudden stop, it would have been a disaster. What is even more disturbing, his passenger was a child.
Greg & Peggy Dunn
Barberton


....so not all cell phone users are SUV drivers, eh?

Bob --Boundary_(ID_FlivnQ5FcFtX33wxwpZS+w)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 08:32:16 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 08:32:15 -0500 (CDT) by rd3.asimba.com with SMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:32:22 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 06:30:44 -0700 (PDT) From: sail2xs@netscazpe.net Subject: PC800: Leaders of the Pack To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Saw this article on hydration systems, thought it might be of interest. Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MarylandThis article is brought to you by Asimba, Inc. See this article at http://www.asimba.com/cgi/go.to?ac=951111&ed=132385 By Roy M. Wallack In the outdoor world, "CamelBak" is synonymous with "hydration backpack." However, not all hydration packs are created equal. First, they're not all backpacks. This review showcases today's aqua-packs. There are backpacks, fanny packs, and a newfangled hybrid--a lumbar pack that looks like a giant fanny pack with suspenders. Some packs are better for riding, some for running. Some will hold enough water to last a couple hours, others enough H20 to satisfy a family of goldfish for a week. We're talkin' full-blown bladder-and-hose models with anywhere from 32- to 200-ounce capacities. Drink up! FANNY HYDRA PACKS CamelBak FlashFlo Price: $40 Fluid capacity: 45 ounces Use: Running, cycling, skating, skiing Like: No more sweaty pack on back; very stable Dislike: Minimal water and cargo capacity The Story: This is the only CamelBak that doesn't go on your back. And you know what? It's a tremendous relief. You don't realize how much you hate that sweaty blob all over your back until -------------------------------------------------------- This article is brought to you by Asimba, Inc. Copyright 1999 Asimba, Inc. All rights reserved. See this article at http://www.asimba.com/cgi/go.to?ac=951111&ed=132385 Visit Asimba at http://www.asimba.com/ -------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 07:58:02 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 07:58:02 -0500 (CDT) id e.69.899b0f9 (8512); Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: gobeaugo@prodigy.net, cnorloff@norloff.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 8/3/00 12:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gobeaugo@prodigy.net writes: << One of the protestor's equipment failed and she plummeted to her death. >> And all that she was trying to do was to drop a subtle hint. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 07:12:11 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 07:12:11 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:12:08 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go... To: pc Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" >While I was there, I noticed that they also sell the "Stop & Go" tire repair kit. It includes some sort of gun device which helps you insert the plug into the tire and 4 CO2 cartridges. Have any of you tried this? Is it okay? I've heard many good things about it, carry one myself, but have never had to use it. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 18:49:22 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 18:49:22 -0500 (CDT) 03 Aug 2000 19:49:03 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:51:16 -0700 From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: cnorloff@norloff.com, List-PC800 How about this? 1. It is less safe to ride a motorcycle than drive a car. 2. It is less safe to ride a motorcycle without the proper protective gear and proper training than without. 3. It is least safe to ride a motorcycle nude with no training while lane splitting? :-) Jim Alexander At 08:15 AM 08/03/2000 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote: > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >Most people on this list think it's unsafe to ride without a helmet and >other protective gear. > >Most people in the country probably think it's unsafe to ride a motorcycle >in any gear. > >Who's right? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 17:55:46 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 17:55:44 -0500 (CDT) by mta01.chello.no (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) ; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:56:12 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:55:48 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= Subject: PC800: test To: PC 800 List X-MSMail-priority: Normal Just testing for Emile Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 13:29:58 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 13:24:04 -0500 (CDT) 03 Aug 2000 11:23:56 -0700 03 Aug 2000 GMT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:23:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Macy Subject: Re: PC800: Driving light kits To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FILETIME=[FC3B8D40:01BFFD77] >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Tom <2malcolm@rochester.rr.com> >Anyone familiar with the Electrical Connection Driving light kit >for the PC.Good/bad? Any preference for type of light, seems they offer > >three types, clear, ion and titanium. Funny you should bring those up, Tom. On the 3-Bike Ride that Will, his buddy (Tom? The synapses between my name-remembering-cells are broken) and I did a couple of weekends ago, Tom had Electrical Connection Driving Lights on his PC. They were very neatly tucked into the fairing. He said that they're really good for lighting up a wider swath of road. Has a little switch built in right under his on/off switch on the right side of the bars. Do they have a web site? I've been too lazy to look yet... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 21:52:50 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 21:52:50 -0500 (CDT) (tnt8-216-180-71-126.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.71.126]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e742qmj26205 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:52:48 -0500 (CDT) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15092 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:50:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:50:47 -0500 From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident "of Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:51:16 PDT." <4.3.2.7.0.20000803164655.00ba8980@pop.compuserve.com> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jim Alexander writes: > > How about this? > > 1. It is less safe to ride a motorcycle than drive a car. > > 2. It is less safe to ride a motorcycle without the proper protective gear > and proper training than without. > > 3. It is least safe to ride a motorcycle nude with no training while lane > splitting? :-) Lets not forget how dangerous it is to go to sleep. Do you have any idea how many people die in their sleep? Why Isn't The Government Doing Something About It? Outlaw Sleep Now! Its just one more example of Selective Indignation. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 16:58:20 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 16:58:17 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) 03 Aug 2000 21:58:11 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:54:52 -0700 From: Robert H Walton Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear! To: "'Ray'" Cc: "'PC800@hpc.uh.edu'" Hi Ray, In case you are not aware, in some circles PCs are known as Tupperware due to all the plastic. The Tupperware party to end all Tupperware parties is a ride starting in September in Eureka, Ca. (gathering the weekend of the 9th and 10th) and starting on the 11th down Hwy 1 on the coast, and ending up on Friday the 15th in San Clemente, Ca. THIS RIDE IS FOR PACIFIC COAST RIDERS ONLY!!!!!! Other bikes by invitation only. I urge any and all Pacific Coast riders to check the following web site IMMEDIATELY!!! This is a ride attracting PC riders from all over the world, and I can't imagine that no one from this site has gotten the word yet. www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html This site has all the information, itinerary, maps, etc. that one will ever need. There is NO fee to join the ride, just your own expenses. You arrange your own reservations, and the overnight stops are indicated. If you are at all interested, make sure your printer has plenty of paper to print out all the information available. In the middle of the trip, a Honda dealer in the bay area is furnishing a lunch. The daily mileage is small, so there is plenty of time for side trips and sightseeing, and there are even maps and suggestions for that. Get with the program!! Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or 94 S.O.B. (Silver On Black) 39K -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ray [SMTP:raypc800@uswest.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:04 PM To: Robert H Walton Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! Hey there! When is the Tupperware party? Ray Smith Vancouver,WA ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert H Walton" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear! > Hi Irene, > > Good to hear from someone else in the Portland area. Are you going to the > Tupperware Party next month? > > Bob Walton > Milwaukie, Or > > -----Original Message----- > From: Irene Frost [SMTP:irene.frost@hotbot.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:56 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > > I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, gloves > and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. > > I have had a 30 MPH get-off wearing the jacket and jeans. No damage to the > upper torso at all with the jacket, torn and bloody knee without the > leather pants. > > I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over 100 > degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The memory of > my sore knee keeps me geared up. > > Actually, never is too strong a word. If I am running to the store a few > blocks away I won't wear the leather pants and will just go with jacket and > jeans. But if there is any highway at all, or speeds over 30ish then every > thing goes on. > > Irene Frost > '94 "Gazelle" > Portland, Oregon > > -- > > On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 John T. Quinn wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any > >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the > >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in > >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been > >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road > >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about > >it? > > > >John Quinn > >PC 800 1990 > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > HotBot - Search smarter. > http://www.hotbot.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 16:02:08 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 15:49:15 -0500 (CDT) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id VAA08199 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:48:54 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:39:45 +0100 From: Russ Goff Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware To: pc800listserver Reply-to: Russ Goff X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Authentication-warning: irwell.zetnet.co.uk: Host man-a204.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.44.204] claimed to be nobby98 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harvey P. Sattin" To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:50 AM Subject: PC800: Re: Tupperware > My Tupperware decals are alway getting noticed. > I'm sure whoever else has them is experiencing the same thing. > > ~Harvey Sattin > Brookline, MA > '98PC800 > Mine too! Many queried looks and then laughter as MOST people realise it is a joke. Russ Milton Keynes GB City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic '89 PC800 "Obelix" Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 17:21:53 -0500 (CDT) (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 17:21:51 -0500 (CDT) (storefull-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.68]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E676B96 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id PAA01373; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:21:49 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:21:49 -0500 (EST) From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Subject: PC800: thanks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: Inline Thanks to all the great PC'ers on this list. Dave Klein Ft. Wayne, Ind. 97PC--16,000mi. "Have Trunk--Will Travel" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 11:39:40 -0500 (CDT) (web4602.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.157]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:39:09 -0500 (CDT) 03 Aug 2000 09:38:53 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: PC800: '94 or '95 PC800 Wanted To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu Hi: I'm interested in buying a 1994 or 1995 PC800. Anyone looking to sell? Reply to pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu. Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 10:44:30 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 10:41:41 -0500 (CDT) id x.5b.97a82cc (4155) for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Another Lane Splitting Opinion To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I believe you're ALL correct, to some extent. I don't think I'd try lane splitting here in my neck of the woods. Our traffic isn't generally bad enough to warrant the maneuver, and while I've seen bikes do the lane splitting thing a couple of times, it really seemed to "perturb" the cagers who were bypassed, since they were unable to do the same thing. For a rider to do something that is likely to provoke a nearby driver is like poking a snake with a stick .... it rarely leads to anything pleasant. It may (lane splitting) be relatively safe in areas where it's a common practice. Apparently, where Revill lives (Atlanta?) it's not common, and can have dire consequences. Follow the old adage "when in Rome, do as Romans do". I try to NEVER intentionally rile up a cager. They are much bigger than we are, and that does not bode well. Same reason I don't ride horses, they're 3/4 of a ton and don't speak English ... my odds are NOT good in a confrontation. When you're at risk with something (someone) larger than you are, my brother has a saying I like: "Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons....since you're crunchy and taste good with ketchup" Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 Nata Harli -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 11:08:13 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 11:08:10 -0500 (CDT) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66D813BD for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:03:37 -0700 (PDT) by snah6.nsr.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id JAA27529 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:03:12 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:03:16 -0700 From: Peter Noeth Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jim, Yes, I agree with you. Perhaps what I wrote was unclear. Police or CHP will not ticket you for lane splitting/lane sharing in itself, what I ment is that they may ticket you for doing it in an unsafe mannor. The usual cited vehicle code is 22350 (driving in an unsafe mannor for prevailing conditions) but as you mentioned, others could also be used. But since this is a judgement call on the part of the officer, (which also factors in what they are told to concentrate on during the days campain) it is hard to know what is truely safe and what is not. The fact that it is not specifically permitted is the point I was trying to make. I guess one could take your position that if something is not specifically illegal, then it must be legal. Just depends on how you view things. But the practice does not seem to be promoted, thereby there is no mention of it in any of the drivers handbooks, and I think there should be if it is legal. Both to set guidelines and also to inform all drivers that this is something to look out for and not to put the "squeeze play" on the motorcyclist as they approach. :-) I don't do it myself, because I don't think it is all that safe, but as with anything else, practice increases self confidence. Too many truck mirrors to dodge, and if traffic is moving slowly, cars around here have a habit of trying to lane change without signaling or looking. I don't condem those who do it, it is just not my way. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer > ---------- > From: Jim Alexander[SMTP:jamesalexander@compuserve.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 4:25 PM > To: Peter Noeth; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Lane Splitting > > Sorry to disagree with you Peter. Lane Sharing is legal as this is no > California Vehicle Code violation to cover the practice. If an CHP officer > wants to write you up he CANNOT write up a ticket "Lane Splitting" or Lane > Sharing". He can write you up for various other things such as unsafe > lane change, unsafe passing, failing to stay within one lane (i.e. > straddling the line), and probably a dozen other violations, but not Lane > Sharing. I have a CHP officer who lives three doors down and is a > motorcycle officer. He and I have discussed it. His basic philosophy > (and this varies between officers as he has pointed out) is this, if you > look safe while you are doing it most officers will not care. If you look > like a squid, you can get a ticket. He has written tickets for as bad as > reckless driving to some people, but that is rare. He confirmed that the > practice is considered legal, but any incident that happens is > automatically the fault of the motorcycle rider, so you are taking a risking. > > > At 03:12 PM 08/02/2000 -0700, Peter Noeth wrote: > > > >However I have never seen anyone actually get pulled over for doing it, > >whether > >traffic was stopped or just moving slowly. Lane splitting is not "legal" in > >California, but it is tolerated. I don't know how that rumor got started. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 10:35:20 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 10:32:59 -0500 (CDT) id x.d9.7c5634c (4155) for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PC800: Re: Wearing riding gear at all times To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Oh, no ... another club forming! Oh, no ... another club name required! Somebody call Emile quick; he seems adept at the process. Okay, my first submission is to call the club SSSS (Scooter Squids in Sauna Suits). It's only a coincidence that "SSSS" is the same sound that water makes when hitting a hot surface. ;-} Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 Nata Sauna -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 09:50:40 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 09:44:19 -0500 (CDT) by amdext2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id JAA15507 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:44:18 -0500 (CDT) by amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id JAA16821 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:44:17 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01846 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:43:57 -0500 (CDT) by mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01804 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:43:26 -0500 (CDT) id JAA23978 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:43:27 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:43:27 -0500 From: Revill Dunn Subject: Re: PC800: Getting off at 30 mph To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > I like: > "Horn broken. Watch for finger." > > -- > Chris Norloff, Virginia Actually, I think my friend in the bumper sticker business has that one copywrighted. "Yes, this is my truck. No, I won't help you move" is one of his too. The only one he had that I liked was "My body isn't a temple; it's an amusement park". Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com 3 Aug 2000 21:00:29 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 21:00:20 -0500 (CDT) id x.b6.8cbea12 (4317) for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 8/1/00 10:34:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tourrider@hotmail.com writes: << spigot for the very best imported German beer. >> Where do I get this helmet? Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 20:25:55 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 20:25:54 -0500 (CDT) 03 Aug 2000 18:25:23 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:25:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Desmond Cockburn Subject: Re: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >From: Bob Patterson, snip, snip we witnessed the ultimate in stupidity: a motorcyclist using a cell phone. What is even more disturbing, his passenger was a child. >....so not all cell phone users are SUV drivers, eh? Sounds like another example of bizzare squid behavior to me. Des ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 20:13:07 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 20:13:07 -0500 (CDT) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) 03 Aug 2000 18:07:59 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:07:54 -0700 From: "Thomas E. Humphrey II" Subject: RE: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: cnorloff@norloff.com, List-PC800 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-priority: Normal Who is right? We are ALL right. For ourselves, at least. But not for others. That is their job. Tom in Clayton CA -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Norloff Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:15 AM To: List-PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams > the Park >Service was cracking down on people who were para-jumping (or whatever you >call it) off of high cliffs in the park area. They claimed it was too >dangerous. (Can you see it coming?...) Several protestors showed up to >protest the crackdown by jumping off anyway. One of the protestor's >equipment failed and she plummeted to her death. The main problems with all this are: 1) how much risk or perceived risk should an individual be allowed to engage in, and 2) what, if any, qualifications should they have to do this? Most people on this list think it's unsafe to ride without a helmet and other protective gear. Most people in the country probably think it's unsafe to ride a motorcycle in any gear. Who's right? -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Observation... Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:16:49 -0700 Just an observation on lane splitting here in the Los Angeles basin... ...over the years I believe the sociologist in me has noticed a change = in the perception of drivers to motorcyclists doing the lane splitting = thing. I'm pretty sure the they've seen so much of it (especially in = summer as more of the warm-weather young dudes dust off their steeds) = that they've gone beyond tolerant of it...they expect and accommodate = it. HOWEVER, that really only applies to the LA basin natives. =20 The ones that scare me (and who keep me from doing it too often) are = those who don't expect it and drive accordingly (weaving in their lane = too much not realizing that the oncoming biker is assuming a constant = position) and those who don't accommodate it (changing lanes suddenly = whenever they see an opening in the next lane which seems to be going = faster.) I swear - most of these people appear to have recently moved = here or have never acclimated after they did. (Don't ask me why I swear = on that...I'm not sure I can explain...just a combination of multiple = signals.) I'm pretty sure that we've "evolved" the cager vs m/c thing (at least as = it relates to lane splitting anyway) into something much different here = than in the rest of the country... ..."Darth" (Sigmund) Beau In a way, this combination of things has made lane splitting in SoCal = both safer and more dangerous at the same time. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 07:12:50 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 07:12:46 -0500 (CDT) 04 Aug 2000 08:07:01 -0400 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:07:00 -0400 From: Harvey Sattin Subject: PC800: Harley to Target New Market To: "PC800 List (E-mail)" Harley is to produce a special run of Road Kings with rust resistant marine paint, which will be sold to the Holland America luxury cruise line for use as anchoring devices when in port... Inside Sources report that many Harley riders bear a striking resemblance to Santa Claus, with some of the most frequently mentioned features being the bloated abdominal region and the balding head in conjunction with the white beard. Holland America is said to be looking into this. Harley is also said to be offering the '01 Super Glide sport model with an optional rubber mounted I.V. cart and convenient colostomy caddy in hopes of drawing a slightly younger crowd to the H-D ranks. Also in the works at Harley is a LazyBoy limited edition recliner for those who crave the riding experience of a H-D but would like slightly better on-road performance. Said recliner is to be offered in the traditional orange and black Motor Company colors, complete with special formed pillow for arthritic knees and an AARP/USA Geriatrics Foundation approved bib for feeding time. WW1 vets , who comprise about 45% of Harleys repeat customers will (as always) receive 10% off. An optional undergarment caddy is also in the works for those Harley enthusiasts who are not yet permanently catheterized. That is all for now from Milwaukeee... **************************************************** This article by Artimus Fizzlestick was taken from: http://news.motorcycle.com/965321008/index_html ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800 ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 07:42:32 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 07:42:30 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:42:13 -0400 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, David Kelly Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly >Lets not forget how dangerous it is to go to sleep. Do you have any idea >how many people die in their sleep? Why Isn't The Government Doing >Something About It? Outlaw Sleep Now! > >Its just one more example of Selective Indignation. Dihydrogen monoxide is what has me really worried. It can kill in numerous ways, including painful burning. It's found in all dead bodies right after death, it's found in cancer tumors, and more. I can't believe there isn't more attention to this! see http://www.netreach.net/~rjones/no_dhmo.html Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 07:07:28 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 07:07:27 -0500 (CDT) by graf.cc.emory.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e74C7GG21387 for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:07:16 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer Subject: PC800: Re: Throttle Cable Slack To: PC 800 List xcontrol@erols.com writes: > I noticed a few weeks ago that there is some slack in the throttle cable. > If you look at the accelerator on the carbs there is a little slack. > When I tightened it, I wasn't driving very well, but I am still new to > the clutch, so I think it messed me up. > > My question is to others who have looked at their, is there any slack > or is it basically tight, without actually moving the throttle advance, > which is how I would think it should be. I may just start tightening > it a bit at a time if this is true. Free play in the throttle may be a matter of personal preference, but in my experience, ALL dealers leave far too much slack for my taste. I remove as much slack as possible until I get to a point where the throttle just barely closes by itself at full lock. The cables tend to tighten up at full lock, compared with straight ahead, so this leaves a small amount of slack under normal conditions. Doing this on a PC is a little more work than on most bikes, because of the plastic. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 05:43:34 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 05:43:33 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 05:46:46 -0500 From: Desmond Cockburn Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal It only works on German bikes. My Shoei only dispenses sake on the left side and Asahi beer on the right side. Des, "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:00 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms > In a message dated 8/1/00 10:34:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > tourrider@hotmail.com writes: > > << spigot for the very best imported German beer. >> > > Where do I get this helmet? > > Darren Sinofsky > 1989 PC800 "The Crib" > Western Mass > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 05:48:13 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 05:48:13 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 05:51:30 -0500 From: Desmond Cockburn Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: Robert H Walton , "'Ray'" Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal As much as I would love to join this "Once in a lifetime" ride, too far and snakey for me to make it. It would be nice for someone to take lots of pictures and send them to both American Honda and Honda of Japan. Just to let them know that one of their creations is still beloved and going strong. Des, "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert H Walton" To: "'Ray'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:54 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear! > Hi Ray, > > In case you are not aware, in some circles PCs are known as Tupperware due > to all the plastic. > > The Tupperware party to end all Tupperware parties is a ride starting in > September in Eureka, Ca. (gathering the weekend of the 9th and 10th) and > starting on the 11th down Hwy 1 on the coast, and ending up on Friday the > 15th in San Clemente, Ca. > > THIS RIDE IS FOR PACIFIC COAST RIDERS ONLY!!!!!! Other bikes by invitation > only. > > I urge any and all Pacific Coast riders to check the following web site > IMMEDIATELY!!! This is a ride attracting PC riders from all over the > world, and I can't imagine that no one from this site has gotten the word > yet. > > www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > This site has all the information, itinerary, maps, etc. that one will ever > need. There is NO fee to join the ride, just your own expenses. You > arrange your own reservations, and the overnight stops are indicated. > > If you are at all interested, make sure your printer has plenty of paper to > print out all the information available. > > In the middle of the trip, a Honda dealer in the bay area is furnishing a > lunch. The daily mileage is small, so there is plenty of time for side > trips and sightseeing, and there are even maps and suggestions for that. > > Get with the program!! > > Bob Walton > Milwaukie, Or > 94 S.O.B. (Silver On Black) 39K > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raypc800@uswest.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:04 PM > To: Robert H Walton > Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > > Hey there! When is the Tupperware party? > Ray Smith > Vancouver,WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert H Walton" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:10 PM > Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Gear! > > > > Hi Irene, > > > > Good to hear from someone else in the Portland area. Are you going to > the > > Tupperware Party next month? > > > > Bob Walton > > Milwaukie, Or > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Irene Frost [SMTP:irene.frost@hotbot.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:56 AM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > > > > I may be paranoid, but I never ride without leather pants, jacket, > gloves > > and a helmet. Also I wear a pair of really good hiking boots. > > > > I have had a 30 MPH get-off wearing the jacket and jeans. No damage to > the > > upper torso at all with the jacket, torn and bloody knee without the > > leather pants. > > > > I often feel odd because I won't ride without all this even in over 100 > > degree weather when all my friends are in shirts and jeans. The memory of > > my sore knee keeps me geared up. > > > > Actually, never is too strong a word. If I am running to the store a few > > blocks away I won't wear the leather pants and will just go with jacket > and > > jeans. But if there is any highway at all, or speeds over 30ish then > every > > thing goes on. > > > > Irene Frost > > '94 "Gazelle" > > Portland, Oregon > > > > -- > > > > On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:11:46 John T. Quinn wrote: > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > > As long as someone mentioned riding gloves, I'd like to ask if any > > >of you are wearing armor or other protective riding gear while on the > > >bike. I noticed that most people at Honda Homecoming were dressed in > > >street clothes while on their bikes. Any recommendations? I've been > > >looking at Aerostich's Darian Suit and also the Sirrocco coat from Road > > >Gear. Anyone ever gone off their bike at 50 mph and lived to tell about > > >it? > > > > > >John Quinn > > >PC 800 1990 > > >-- > > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > > > > HotBot - Search smarter. > > http://www.hotbot.com > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 05:17:19 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 05:17:18 -0500 (CDT) SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 04 Aug 2000 05:17:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 06:15:37 -0400 From: Bill Jarrells Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: David Kelly , pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal I would rather die as a man than live for eternity as a robot. - the Bicentinnial Man Bill Jarrells Quasimodo -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 23:10:24 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 23:10:22 -0500 (CDT) by mta01.chello.no (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) ; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 06:10:51 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 06:07:58 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= Subject: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: To: PC 800 List X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://www.chez.com/webmoto/photos.html Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 23:33:14 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 23:33:12 -0500 (CDT) id VAA03837; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:42:38 -0700 (MST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:42:38 -0700 (MST) From: Alex Vrenios Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware To: russ@f-goff.co.uk Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Okay, here's an idea I've been cultivating. A stick-on "1WD" thingy - maybe 2" high by 4" or so wide. Stick it right on the back, just where all those quasi-semi's have them... In an earlier email to me Russ Goff said: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > My Tupperware decals are alway getting noticed. > > I'm sure whoever else has them is experiencing the same thing. > Mine too! Many queried looks and then laughter as MOST people realise it is > a joke. -- Regards, Alex, kx9i 98 PC800 Kazesan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 21:27:08 -0500 (CDT) (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 21:27:08 -0500 (CDT) (user-33qt11t.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.132.61]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA30221; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:27:01 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:24:23 -0500 From: Chris Teuber Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Cc: List-PC800 hmmmmmm alcohol and a Harley Davidson.... bad mix lack of helmet *probably* contributed to the death, but if it had been a ***real*** motorcycle.... well....... everybody knows hogs don't handle. as usual, there aren't enough details to go by, (saddening) and George Junior's name was mentioned in this e-mail (nauseating) Bad day, all around! So.....who the hell's fault was it??? bike or car?? cheers all, (^_^) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 19:40:55 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 19:40:52 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:41:02 -0400 From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Subject: Re: PC800: Leaders of the Pack To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I like my CamelBak FlashFlo that I bought while at Americade this year. The water stays cold with ice cubes for several hours and is easy to use with a full face helmet. I like to stop at the all you can drink fast food places where you help yourself to ice and water. I only had a problem once when I filled it with ice then with the water button next to one of the pop dispensers as usual. When I took my first long swig on the road I got a mouth full of unflavored carbonated water...YUCK. I also learned not to put it in my Givi bag with water still in it. Apparently the bite valve got squeezed between a couple of items and all the water drained into my Givi bag (it is waterproof from the inside too). That was about 45 ozs. of water sloshing around for a couple of hours getting everything wet. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" sail2xs@netscazpe.net writes: >Saw this article on hydration systems, thought it might be of interest. > >Take care, > >Chris Russell-Wood >1997 PC 800 "Footloose" >Silver Spring, MarylandThis article is brought to you by Asimba, Inc. >See this article at http://www.asimba.com/cgi/go.to?ac=951111&ed=132385 >By Roy M. Wallack > >In the outdoor world, "CamelBak" is synonymous with "hydration backpack." >However, not all hydration packs are created equal. First, they're not all >backpacks. > >This review showcases today's aqua-packs. There are backpacks, fanny packs, >and a newfangled hybrid--a lumbar pack that looks like a giant fanny pack with >suspenders. Some packs are better for riding, some for running. Some will hold >enough water to last a couple hours, others enough H20 to satisfy a family of >goldfish for a week. We're talkin' full-blown bladder-and-hose models with >anywhere from 32- to 200-ounce capacities. Drink up! > >FANNY HYDRA PACKS >CamelBak FlashFlo >Price: $40 >Fluid capacity: 45 ounces >Use: Running, cycling, skating, skiing >Like: No more sweaty pack on back; very stable >Dislike: Minimal water and cargo capacity >The Story: This is the only CamelBak that doesn't go on your back. And you >know what? It's a tremendous relief. You don't realize how much you hate that >sweaty blob all over your back until > >-------------------------------------------------------- > This article is brought to you by Asimba, Inc. > Copyright 1999 Asimba, Inc. All rights reserved. > See this article at http://www.asimba.com/cgi/go.to?ac=951111&ed=132385 > Visit Asimba at http://www.asimba.com/ >-------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 02:33:27 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 02:33:27 -0500 (CDT) 04 Aug 2000 00:31:46 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:32:07 -0700 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" Subject: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Neill Thompson Hi Coasters, Hope everyone is doing well! I've just finished building a PC800 Owner Registry gleaned from the registry archive and the current registry at Neill Thompson's PC800 site (http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/). The owner registry URL is: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. If you find any errors or need me to make corrections, please let me know. If you are NOT on the list and wish to be, please sign in on Neill's site. I will be sweeping his registry about once per week to pull new owners from it and adding them to mine. You are all invited to have as much fun browsing as I had building it. Owner 998 was from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Wow! We are from all over the planet! Neill gave me access to his registry. That registry includes owners, visitors, updates, wannabes, lookie-lous, etc. It had been sitting full for the past 4 1/2 months so that nobody could sign in. I just cleaned it out tonight so it is currently empty. I have sent Neill a copy of the old archive file with the current registry tacked on the front, in the same format, zipped just as he has the old archive. I don't know if he has had a chance to load that file up to the web site or not. Speaking of the registry archive on Neill's site, has anyone been able to successfully use the archive search facility there? I get a screen full of error messages indicating that "my CGI account has not been enabled". I have not been able to find anyone that does NOT get those messages. If you are able to successfully use that search, please let me know how you got it set up to do that. Any and all feedback on the Owner Registry is invited. Take care. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 148000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 27000 miles PCOR #72 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 00:18:41 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 00:18:41 -0500 (CDT) 03 Aug 2000 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi everyone- After the 3 week flu, a vacation and 2 weeks of finding a new job, I finally have time to ride the bike! I added the Kaisan brake light modulator (which makes me feel a lot better looking in the mirrors at a stop) and a new taller Rifle windshield. A Signal Dynamics headlight modulator awaits bad weather or a surplus of time for installation. The new shield install was something of a comedy. The bike came with a Rifle, but we cracked a corner of it getting the bike in the trailer, so the dealer bought me a new one. It came with a new base, so I took off the old bits to put the new one on. In doing so, I discovered that the big fancy contoured rubber piece between the bike & adapter base had been left on in the previous install (Rifle says to remove it) and that not all the little spacers and shoulder bolts were present. How was it held in place before? I went down to Honda of Milpitas, we looked up all the hardware and I just said order it all. Eighteen bucks & a week later I was ready. It was just an assembly issue after that. So, after riding it around for a week or two, I have this problem. I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam, so I sit pretty tall. At low speed, I just look over the top of the shield-if I slouch, I'm looking through it. At speed, I definitely look OVER it. What I find is that the top of the shield bends back & down about an inch at 65-75 MPH, a common cruising speed range here in the SF Bay area. In addition, the whole top of the shield moves & bounces & flexes a whole lot more than I am comfortable with. I worry that the shield will break and cause me a fair amount of heartburn at 80 MPH... Does this happen to anyone else? I'm going to call Rifle tomorrow and hear what they have to say, but I look to my PC800 brethern for some guidance. Tom Boles '90 PC yet un-named SF Bay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 17:10:40 -0500 (CDT) (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 17:10:30 -0500 (CDT) (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) 03 Aug 2000 22:10:25 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:59:31 -0700 From: Robert H Walton Subject: RE: PC800: Stop & Go... To: "'Beau Williams'" , pc I carry a can of pressurized sealer. I have seen the stuff work, and on a TUBE tire. Bob Walton Milwaukie, Or -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams [SMTP:gobeaugo@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:02 PM To: pc Subject: PC800: Stop & Go... Hey, all; Based on the advice of another lister, I went ahead and ordered one of the beaded seat covers from the Whitehorse Press website. I'm going to give it a try. While I was there, I noticed that they also sell the "Stop & Go" tire repair kit. It includes some sort of gun device which helps you insert the plug into the tire and 4 CO2 cartridges. Have any of you tried this? Is it okay? (I know some of you have recommended the kits sold at BMW dealers, but there are none conveniently located near me.) Thanks in advance... ..."Darth" Beau << File: ATT00009.htm >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 15:39:52 -0500 (CDT) (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 15:27:00 -0500 (CDT) (storefull-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.67]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id B00286FDA for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:26:59 -0700 (PDT) (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id NAA11941; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:26:59 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:26:59 -0500 (EST) From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Subject: PC800: Riding Risks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: Inline Seems like every Summer this list talks about the inherent risks of cycling & accidents some have had. Last Summer i think what started it was John & his run in with a teenager & her Ford Excursion. He got banged up really good & PC was totaled. He gave up Cycle Riding for Good & sold alot of his riding goods to PC'ers on the list. I don't want to get Banged up. I wear Full protective Gear & like Emile said last year--'If it's to hot to wear your Protective gear--it's too Hot to ride'. I wear a Aerostich 1 piece suit with full hard shell armor plus hip pads & spine pad. Full face helmet, kevlar armored gloves, & Army Paratrooper Boots. If i take a spill at interstate speeds i feel i have a chance to come out of it as best as possible. I LOVE riding my PC but limit around town riding because of the risk factor & because the Suit is to Warm for stop n go traffic on a Hot day. Interstate Riding/commuting makes up most of my miles & I really like my Aerostich. My $2 {inflation} Dave Klein Ft. Wayne, Ind. 97PC--16,000mi. "Have Trunk--Will Travel" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 15:42:41 -0500 (CDT) (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 15:37:19 -0500 (CDT) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e73Kb9Z157664; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:37:09 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:37:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: Emile Nossin , mrgvideo@aeroinc.net, PC800 re: Emile's "namra" link... ...like I said before, we humans are a strange bunch! Nevertheless, I'd probably join these nuts, but I keep picturing tyring to pry my loins off those motorcycle seats after a long run in on a hot day. (OOooochie-wa-wa.) ..."Darth" Beau ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Beau Williams , mrgvideo@aeroinc.net, PC800 Sent: August 3, 2000 9:27:52 AM GMT Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! http://www.nanmra.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 3 Aug 2000 16:19:27 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 03 Aug 2000 16:19:13 -0500 (CDT) ([212.58.178.231]:1397 "HELO nossin") by soneramail.nl with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:18:35 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:16:38 +0200 From: Emile Nossin Subject: PC800: Speed limiters.. To: PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://www.drivers.com/cgi-bin/go.cgi?type=ART&id=000000136&static=1 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 4 Aug 2000 04:28:55 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 04 Aug 2000 04:28:55 -0500 (CDT) SMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 02:28:53 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:26:44 +0200 From: Emile Nossin Subject: PC800: PC names on go.to/pc800 To: PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal The list of PC names is now also viewable on http://go.to/pc800 . Send additions and updates to Lee "Great Ned: greatned@quik.com Lee, one name is editted: the translation of Kazesan is now Mr. Wind. If you could edit that one and send future updates in email / txt / doc / html format instead of that database format I would appreciate it. Enjoy, Emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:27:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Don Ivener" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1990 PC800 For Sale (Florida) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:27:49 EDT Hi gang...My 1990 PC800 is up for sale. 30K, New: Battery Tires Windshield $4200 For pix...go to my website www.tigerpilot.com and click on 'motorcycles' Regards Don Ivener 2145 Imperial Circle Naples FL 34110 (941) 598-5383 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:33:02 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: rider_tom_2000@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rider_tom_2000@yahoo.com writes: >What I find is that the top of the shield bends back & >down about an inch at 65-75 MPH, a common cruising >speed range here in the SF Bay area. In addition, the >whole top of the shield moves & bounces & flexes a >whole lot more than I am comfortable with. I worry >that the shield will break and cause me a fair amount >of heartburn at 80 MPH... > > Does this happen to anyone else? > >I'm going to call Rifle tomorrow and hear what they >have to say, but I look to my PC800 brethern for some >guidance. > >Tom Boles >'90 PC yet un-named >SF Bay The plastic on the Rife is similar in thickness and flexibility to the tall Hondaline shield and they both react to wind this way. I had a Rifle for several thousand miles and know exactly what you are talking about. I sold mine in 1998 to someone on the list and bought a Clearview which is thicker, shaped better and does not flex at all. I don't think Rifle can offer you any solution to the problem unless they sell a thicker piece of plastic now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:02:43 -0500 "Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed...." (Aug 4, 9:33am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... >What I find is that the top of the shield bends back & >down about an inch at 65-75 MPH, a common cruising >speed range here in the SF Bay area. In addition, the >whole top of the shield moves & bounces & flexes a >whole lot more than I am comfortable with. I worry >that the shield will break and cause me a fair amount >of heartburn at 80 MPH... > I had that same thing happen with my +5 clearview. But, at the time I was crossing Imperial valley, temperature was about 120. As soon as I climbed up the San Diego Mountains a few feet and the temperature dropped to 100 (AAAHHH!) it stopped flopping. It was stable as a rock crossing New Mexico and Arizona at 90 - 95 (moving with traffic) and 100 degrees. Revill Dunn Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:21:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear / Motorcycle Uniforms To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 8/4/00 9:12:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TourRider@hotmail.com writes: << It only works on German bikes. My Shoei only dispenses sake on the left side and Asahi beer on the right side. >> So I guess I'll have to buy an Italian bike next time to get my grappa on the go. Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.07 AS-0098309) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:36:17 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael & Marlisa Gunderson" To: "PC 800 LIST" Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Observation... Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:38:40 -0500 Beau Williams wrote: "...those who don't accommodate it (changing lanes suddenly whenever = they see an opening in the next lane which seems to be going faster."=20 YEA, THOSE PEOPLE MIGRATED TO CA FROM CHICAGO. THANKS FOR TAKING A FEW = OF THEM! GLAD THEY'RE A CALIFORNIA PROBLEM NOW! Have a good weekend everyone! (Especially those of you where it is = already the weekend!) Mike Gunderson Davis, IL USA 1989 PC (Video 1) mrgvideo@aeroinc.net ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams=20 To: pc=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Observation... Just an observation on lane splitting here in the Los Angeles basin... ...over the years I believe the sociologist in me has noticed a change = in the perception of drivers to motorcyclists doing the lane splitting = thing. I'm pretty sure the they've seen so much of it (especially in = summer as more of the warm-weather young dudes dust off their steeds) = that they've gone beyond tolerant of it...they expect and accommodate = it. HOWEVER, that really only applies to the LA basin natives. =20 The ones that scare me (and who keep me from doing it too often) are = those who don't expect it and drive accordingly (weaving in their lane = too much not realizing that the oncoming biker is assuming a constant = position) and those who don't accommodate it (changing lanes suddenly = whenever they see an opening in the next lane which seems to be going = faster.) I swear - most of these people appear to have recently moved = here or have never acclimated after they did. (Don't ask me why I swear = on that...I'm not sure I can explain...just a combination of multiple = signals.) I'm pretty sure that we've "evolved" the cager vs m/c thing (at least as = it relates to lane splitting anyway) into something much different here = than in the rest of the country... ..."Darth" (Sigmund) Beau In a way, this combination of things has made lane splitting in SoCal = both safer and more dangerous at the same time. it is=20 already the weekend!)
 
Mike Gunderson
Davis, IL USA
1989 PC (Video 1)
mrgvideo@aeroinc.net
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Beau = Williams=20
To: pc=20
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Observation...

Just an observation on lane splitting = here in the=20 Los Angeles basin...
 
...over the years I believe the = sociologist in me=20 has noticed a change in the perception of drivers to motorcyclists doing = the=20 lane splitting thing.  I'm pretty sure the they've seen so much of = it=20 (especially in summer as more of the warm-weather young dudes dust off = their=20 steeds) that they've gone beyond tolerant of it...they expect and = accommodate=20 it.  HOWEVER, that really only applies to the LA basin = natives. =20
 
The ones that scare me (and who keep me = from doing=20 it too often) are those who don't expect it and drive accordingly = (weaving in=20 their lane too much not realizing that the oncoming biker is assuming a = constant=20 position) and those who don't accommodate it (changing lanes suddenly = whenever=20 they see an opening in the next lane which seems to be going = faster.)  I=20 swear - most of these people appear to have recently moved here or have = never=20 acclimated after they did.  (Don't ask me why I swear on that...I'm = not=20 sure I can explain...just a combination of multiple = signals.)
 
I'm pretty sure that we've "evolved" = the cager vs=20 m/c thing (at least as it relates to lane splitting anyway) into = something much=20 different here than in the rest of the country...
 
..."Darth" (Sigmund) Beau
 
In a way, this combination of things = has made lane=20 splitting in SoCal both safer and more dangerous at the same=20 time.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:52:57 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am assuming that the Clearview shield isn't a DOT-approved windscreen, as the Hondaline has to be since it is a factory item sold for a motor vehicle that is bound by DOT regulations. I bought a Clearview for my Helix awhile back, and nowhere was it stamped with a DOT symbol... This maybe why the Clearview is thicker... Of course, this doesn't explain the Rifle jitters at all : ) The last thing I would want to hit in a get-off would be a hard, inflexible windshield... Lexan will bend almost 120-130 degrees without breaking. Troy 1997 PC800 "Gabrielle" Goose Creek (Charleston), SC USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:31:08 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: HondaPC800Rider@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Troy, and list....My new Clearview +3 DOES have a DOT stamp on it...in case anyone is interested. Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BillandScoot@cs.com Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:35:47 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: To: alvik@chello.no, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Arvid, that back rest looks really sharp...Any info on it? Bill Richardson 98PC"Scoot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:11:49 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Riding Risks Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:11:47 +0200 > From: LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net[SMTP:LaidbackSquirtt@webtv.net] > I don't want to get Banged up. I wear Full protective Gear & like Emile > said last year--'If it's to hot to wear your Protective gear--it's too > Hot to ride'. > I said that ? Oh... okay... well... it does sound a bit wise... must be mine then... ; ) I try to wear full protective gear all the time. For the summer I remove the lining from the jacket and have a good quality fully protected pair of leather pants. Leather breathes and has great road rash protection. When riding in hot weather it's comfortable enough, only when standing still in town does it become a bit sticky. Still I think dehydration will occur later with wearing gear then without (shorts..etc).I have a pair of leather summer gloves and the gore tex boots are still comfy enough in summer. Of course I've had some hot weather in France the last few days but it's probably not nearly as hot as the hotspots in the US like death valley and the like. Still I think it's especially important over there to protect your skin not only against scraping hot concrete but also against the sun and warm dehydrating air. I can't remember ever seeing desert cameldrivers riding in their shorts and T-short.... > I LOVE riding my PC but limit around town riding because of the risk > factor & because the Suit is to Warm for stop n go traffic on a Hot day. > You might wanna consider seperate summer gear instead of the standard suit. Sometimes it seems there is only the aerostich suit available in the US... there must be more and better gear for summer there. I recently saw a pair of cordura pants (even waterproof) that looked like a pair of black jeans. Looked great for the short summer stop 'n go city trips. No lining except for the cordura and the lining that made it waterproof, so not that warm... Still I like leather best for summer... and no more sliding on the bike... I feel I have much more control over the bike when wearing the leather pants.. You can see the gear I normally wear in summer in some of the picture I made last weekend in France: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1016281&a=7487689 My 2EUR cents... Emile www.piloot.com http://go.to/pc800 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:29:02 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" Neill Thompson , "'Leland C. Sheppard'" Subject: RE: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:28:59 +0200 > From: Leland C. Sheppard[SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > The owner registry URL is: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners > only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site > multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. > Now I can't surf from here (work) but does that include ex-owners as well ? Can we / I use this list for a base for a PCRC number ? I'm thinking of combining certain pages into a framed PCRC site, like combining that registry, go.to/pc800 picture pages, Dan's maintenance database, list archive and perhaps other (future) pages (and a webzine or so ?). Any ideas from listers on the form of the site and the logo is still welcome. Send them ON-list so we can discuss them easier. An idea on the site url is also welcome, pcrc.com/org/ net are already taken. I was think of pcrclub.com or maybe pc800rc.com or hondapcrc.com ? Any other input ? Thanks for the effort put in this one Leland. Still difficult getting days of in september. It depends if KLM can find new personell in the UK this month... Groeten, Emile http://go.to/pc800 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:32:47 -0700 I bought a +7" (I think) Rifle (a custom length) a couple months ago. The bike already had a +2" Rifle when I bought it in December. I am 6'-1"/ 195 lbs and look through the new sheild at all times now. It is floppy at speed, but oddly the +2" was just about as floppy as the +7". Nothing to worry about though - I spend hours per week at 75 mph. I Love it, and am loosing a few less brain cells to buffeting to boot. Caution!: The plastic screws that mount the shield are no good for the last holes near the outside edges. They will break (inevitably) and leave you with "floppy ears". This happened to both my old and new shields even though I was carefull not to over-tighten them. - Use metal screws with the plastic washers for the outside corners. If you ever get a fracture at a mounting hole, you can stop it by drilling a tiny hole just beyond the tip of the fracture. Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 Mhz" 42,000 mi Santa Barbara County -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tom Boles [mailto:rider_tom_2000@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:18 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... Hi everyone- After the 3 week flu, a vacation and 2 weeks of finding a new job, I finally have time to ride the bike! I added the Kaisan brake light modulator (which makes me feel a lot better looking in the mirrors at a stop) and a new taller Rifle windshield. A Signal Dynamics headlight modulator awaits bad weather or a surplus of time for installation. The new shield install was something of a comedy. The bike came with a Rifle, but we cracked a corner of it getting the bike in the trailer, so the dealer bought me a new one. It came with a new base, so I took off the old bits to put the new one on. In doing so, I discovered that the big fancy contoured rubber piece between the bike & adapter base had been left on in the previous install (Rifle says to remove it) and that not all the little spacers and shoulder bolts were present. How was it held in place before? I went down to Honda of Milpitas, we looked up all the hardware and I just said order it all. Eighteen bucks & a week later I was ready. It was just an assembly issue after that. So, after riding it around for a week or two, I have this problem. I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam, so I sit pretty tall. At low speed, I just look over the top of the shield-if I slouch, I'm looking through it. At speed, I definitely look OVER it. What I find is that the top of the shield bends back & down about an inch at 65-75 MPH, a common cruising speed range here in the SF Bay area. In addition, the whole top of the shield moves & bounces & flexes a whole lot more than I am comfortable with. I worry that the shield will break and cause me a fair amount of heartburn at 80 MPH... Does this happen to anyone else? I'm going to call Rifle tomorrow and hear what they have to say, but I look to my PC800 brethern for some guidance. Tom Boles '90 PC yet un-named SF Bay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) with SMTP Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:39:53 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:39:18 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: > Arvid, that back rest looks really sharp...Any info on it? > Bill Richardson > 98PC"Scoot" It does , if someone on the list that reads french could have a look on the page and maybe contact the owner, we could know more. Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:39:24 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:39:24 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Leland C. Sheppard" >I've just finished building a PC800 Owner Registry gleaned from the >registry archive and the current registry at Neill Thompson's PC800 site >(http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/). >The owner registry URL is: > >http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners >only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site >multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. >If you find any errors or need me to make corrections, please let me >know. Allow me to congratulate you on a job well done, Leland! It looks great, and I actually perused every name on it. Are there really that many of us out there? Wow! Impressive. Since I'm heading back to Wisconsin (Nan and I are riding the ST back on the 15th) I was surprised at how many WI names there are. And it's a good thing that you used the registry archive at Neill's site, because I STILL CAN'T GET THE MENU ON IT!!!!! Sorry--that yelling hurt my throat... I just hooked up to @Home at home (is that redundant?) so I'm going to try and see if that makes a difference. But I still don't get a menu when I pull it up, so I can't go anywhere. Not unless I "backdoor" it... Anyway, very impressive stuff, Leland! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:48:53 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: hondapc800rider@aol.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) HondaPC800Rider@aol.com writes: >I am assuming that the Clearview shield isn't a DOT-approved windscreen, as >the Hondaline has to be since it is a factory item sold for a motor vehicle >that is bound by DOT regulations. I bought a Clearview for my Helix awhile >back, and nowhere was it stamped with a DOT symbol... This maybe why the >Clearview is thicker... Of course, this doesn't explain the Rifle jitters at >all : ) The last thing I would want to hit in a get-off would be a hard, >inflexible windshield... Lexan will bend almost 120-130 degrees without >breaking. > >Troy >1997 PC800 "Gabrielle" >Goose Creek (Charleston), SC USA BillandScoot@cs.com writes: >Troy, and list....My new Clearview +3 DOES have a DOT stamp on it...in case >anyone is interested. >Bill Richardson >98PC"Scoot" >-- Mine also has a DOT stamp on it and I have every confidence it will break away if I should hit it in that type of situation Troy. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:58:27 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Squids... Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:58:27 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Desmond Cockburn >A squid, in motorcycle parlance, is a person who operates a sport bike >in >a manner that resembles the actions of a member of the cephalopod >family, >order Teuthoidea, namely, they "squirt" from place to place in >traffic in >an erratic and unpredictable manner. Desmond, that is IMHO the best definition of "squid" that I've had the pleasure to read. I shall commit that to the hard drive... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio To: Bob Patterson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu I saw the same thing in Green Bay about three weeks ago, my mouth dropped open! Paul --- Bob Patterson wrote: > Here's a letter to the editor that recently appeared in the Akron > Ohio > Beacon Journal: > > Motorcyclist using a cell phone, too > While driving on Romig Road at Rolling Acres Mall at 5 p.m. on July > 21, we > witnessed the ultimate in stupidity: a motorcyclist using a cell > phone. > He held it in his left hand (the clutch control side). > As motorcyclists ourselves, we know there are times when one can take > his > or her hand off the left control and rest it -- but never in a > high-traffic > rush hour. One has to be alert and ready to pull in the clutch. If > that guy > had had to make a sudden stop, it would have been a disaster. What is > even > more disturbing, his passenger was a child. > Greg & Peggy Dunn > Barberton > > > ....so not all cell phone users are SUV drivers, eh? > > Bob > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:14:14 -0700 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" Neill Thompson Subject: Re: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Hi Emile, "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" wrote: > > From: Leland C. Sheppard[SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > > The owner registry URL is: > > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners > > only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site > > multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. > > > Now I can't surf from here (work) but does that include ex-owners as well ? Yes, it is intended to be a history as well as current. You are there as a PC owner because at the time you registered you were a PC owner. John Louk is there because he was an owner when he registered, etc. > > Can we / I use this list for a base for a PCRC number ? > Absolutely. That was one of the reasons for putting the whole file together was to get a consistent numbering scheme. My signature used to say #79 because that was the number in Neill's archive. When I set up the Owner list, I ended up as #72 and that is what I am now using. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 148000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 27000 miles PCOR #72 - Pacific Coast Owner Registry: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:22:36 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re:PC800: Cell phone in Ohio Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:22:03 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio I have to advertize a little for my hands free cellular kit again. There is a feww ( non PC owners) that have bought it already. Now also in Canadian colors !!!! http://arlovik.tripod.com/handsfree.jpg Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fred Lamoureux" To: Subject: PC800: GPS Plug Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:28:24 -0400 Hi Gang: Someone on the list said they new of a source for the plug that supples power to a Garmin GPS. I didn't keep the message, soooooo if anyone knows, please let me know that source again. Thanks...........FRED "95" "Cold Fusion" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Hands free cellular kit Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:32:04 -0700 Pretty cool and high-tech, but is there a model that will mount a GPS onto my face shield? The combo should be Ideal... Jeff K. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid L=F8vik [mailto:alvik@chello.no] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 10:22 AM To: PC 800 List Subject: Re:PC800: Cell phone in Ohio ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio I have to advertize a little for my hands free cellular kit again. There is a feww ( non PC owners) that have bought it already. Now also = in Canadian colors !!!! http://arlovik.tripod.com/handsfree.jpg Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:33:24 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Cutting,cutting.....faster and faster.... Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:32:49 +0200 I found this mail when I had a cleanup yesterday: >THIS IS REAL! | >---------------------------------------- > >To: Weidler, Grant E. >From: Inet-QS Site Information >Subject: RE: Looking for more info > >Dear Quaker State: > >I own a four-stroke 1992 Honda riding lawn mower. I usually use your Quaker >State 10-40 motor oil to keep it running smooth. Over the summer I decided >to soup it up a bit by boring out the block, dropping a lift kit on it, and >adding Nitrous Oxide injection. I also added a custom shock absorbers, so I >can now make the front of my mower hop up and down like you often see hot >rods do. > >I am not sure if there are any records for riding lawn mowers, but I was >able to get my Honda up to 65 mph on the street and 45 mph on the lawn while >cutting grass. Over the next few weeks I am planning on putting in a new >'tranney' and possibly putting in a blower. I also think if I ad the custom >intake manifolds I should be able to get in up to 55mph on the lawn, that's >while cutting and bagging. > >I would like to know if it would make sense for me to possibly drop to >lighter oil in my mower, maybe a 10-30 versus the 10-40 I am using now? > >I also heard a lot about Y2K lately, I am not sure, but is Quaker State >motor oil Y2K compliant? Just wondering since I am planning on bringing in >the New Year, by taking my mower out at midnight and laying a few strips or >possibly doing a few neutral drops around the neighborhood. > >Thanks for your wonderful product and I look forward to your reply. > >Sincerely, > >Michael Page > > > >From: Weidler, Grant E. >To: Inet-QS Site Information >Subject: RE: Looking for more info > >We'd suggest that you use the proper API grade (SJ) in the SAE viscosity >recommended by Honda. Good luck and hang on.... > >Grant Weidler >Technical Services Representative >(713) 546-8346 >GrantWeidler@PZLQS.com > > > > >To: Weidler, Grant E. >From: Inet-QS Site Information >Subject: RE: Looking for more info > >Dear Grant: > >Oh boy! I think we might have a small problem. > >Over the weekend I installed a new carbon treated racing cam shaft on my >Honda riding mower and decided to take out for a test ride. Well it looks >like a soda can got jammed in the blades which froze something underneath >and I flipped the mower at around 45 mph. I probably shouldn't have been >racing it on the highway like I was. > >Well to make a long story short I got banged up pretty good, and my mower is >in really bad shape. It looks like I cracked the block. There is probably at >least $1500 dollars worth of damage, so I will be out of commission for a >while. > >Maybe the next riding mower I'll soup up will be a John Deer, since I don't >think the flip as easy at high speeds. I was wondering if there would be any >chance maybe Quaker State can send me a free case of oil, since my financial >situation is really bad now. > >Once I regain the use of my hands I think I will be fine. > >Thanks again. > >Michael Page Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:21:48 -0500 "Re(2): PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed...." (Aug 4, 12:48pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Clearview DOT stamp. During my recent trip I dropped my PC in a restaraunt parking lot. I had too much crap loaded, and tried to get it on the center stand. When I couldn't get it up, it rocked back down and overbalanced. I was on the "high" side, so once it was too far, there wasn't much I could do. The windshield hit the mirror of the car next to it, and slid down the side of the door. It flexed several inches at least in the process. It didn't break. Didn't even crack. I unloaded the bike, scooted it a little until the windshield was clear of the car, and picked it back up. You know these PC's are really light? The bike landed on the "wings". No visible damage. There are a couple of small scratches on the windshield. Amazing. What a machine. So anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about a Clearview shattering. They're pretty flexible. Revill Rider of Whirby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:52:46 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:54:59 -0700 To: "Fred Lamoureux" , From: Jim Alexander Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug <3981EB58.3B75D4F3@westvirginia.net> http://www.pfranc.com/ At 01:28 PM 08/04/2000 -0400, Fred Lamoureux wrote: > >Hi Gang: > > Someone on the list said they new of a source for the plug that supples >power to a Garmin GPS. I didn't keep the message, soooooo if anyone knows, >please let me know that source again. > > >Thanks...........FRED > > >"95" "Cold Fusion" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:02:55 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: flamoureux@snet.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug "Fred Lamoureux" writes: > > Hi Gang: > > Someone on the list said they new of a source for the plug that supples > power to a Garmin GPS. I didn't keep the message, soooooo if anyone knows, > please let me know that source again. http://pfranc.com/ I've used them. They work. Taught me the Genuine Garmin at $19 from http://gps4fun.com/ wasn't such a bad deal. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:42:04 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:33:35 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware > Okay, here's an idea I've been cultivating. A > stick-on "1WD" thingy - maybe 2" high by 4" or > so wide. Stick it right on the back, just where > all those quasi-semi's have them... > Alex, kx9i > 98 PC800 > Kazesan Hey, good idea, I'll take one! Carl Luft PC800 'Proteus' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Glassrhino@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:54:38 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Driving lights To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu To all: I have installed a set of PILOT wide beam lights on my PC800. if you use the small egg shaped fittings, they will fit exactly into place. The fittings will bolt up underneath the headlite where there are 3 screws...using the outermost two will place the lamps in a convenient position. After that, the biggest part is routing the wiring...here are some things that i suggest doing if you decide to follow this route: 1. use a relay, this help prevents electrical overload of the fuses. 2. Wire it to the main key switch. this kills the lights at the same time as the headlight, thereby preventing battery "overdraw" during ignition. While stopping at this point is fine, i would suggest one more step: 3. add an auxilary switch to the handlbar assembly. a single toggle switch rated for 12-15v and about 20 amps is more than enough. This switch allows the riders to turn off the lamps when not really needed. the Pilot projector lights that i use are 50 watts apiece. 2 x 50 = 100 watts plus 50 for the main headlight. this is a big drain. if the engine is running, anything less than about 3000 rpm will probably pull on the battery a little. you should be able to replace the 50 watt lamps with 35 watt if you special order the lamps. i find that these extra lights are VERY helpful on the night rides, and the yellow coloring allowes a more "defined" view of the scenery at night.... if this email makes it onto the board, and you would like detailed instructions, e mail me, and i will see what i can do... Alexander Engineering student, University of Texas at Arlington -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:59:31 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Pictures from Pigah Inn,NC and TN by Jim & Nancy Randall Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:58:57 +0200 http://www.photoloft.com/view/Album.asp?s=plft&u=51682&a=516896 Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:55:36 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda sponsor ? (was: riding gear !) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:55:34 +0200 > From: Desmond Cockburn[SMTP:TourRider@hotmail.com] > As much as I would love to join this "Once in a lifetime" ride, too far > and > snakey for me to make it. It would be nice for someone to take lots of > pictures and send them to both American Honda and Honda of Japan. Just to > let them know that one of their creations is still beloved and going > strong. > Long live aviation... I wanna come and will if I can get the days off arranged. If I come I'll take my new digicam with me and shoot whatever I see, but I think there be plenty of photo shooting riders around then. The Dutch Pan European (ST1100) gathering last month or so was sponsored by Honda. They had a police ST and ambulance ST in the hotel lobby and even a ST demo team performing tricks (according to the pics that I saw on the dutch pan site). Doesn't Honda USA wanna sponsor this in some kindaway perhaps ? Emile http://go.to/pc800 www.st1100.net ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:10:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams To: "Leland C. Sheppard" , Neill Thompson Subject: RE: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. I don't know if this feedback is more for Leland or Neil, but there is a small shortcoming in the registry...it only allows responses for up to 1999 when entering when you bought your bike. I bought mine this year, but there's on "00" to select. (I selected "99" for the heck of it.) "Darth" Beau ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Leland C. Sheppard" Sent: August 4, 2000 7:32:07 AM GMT Subject: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Hi Coasters, Hope everyone is doing well! I've just finished building a PC800 Owner Registry gleaned from the registry archive and the current registry at Neill Thompson's PC800 site (http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/). The owner registry URL is: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. If you find any errors or need me to make corrections, please let me know. If you are NOT on the list and wish to be, please sign in on Neill's site. I will be sweeping his registry about once per week to pull new owners from it and adding them to mine. You are all invited to have as much fun browsing as I had building it. Owner 998 was from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Wow! We are from all over the planet! Neill gave me access to his registry. That registry includes owners, visitors, updates, wannabes, lookie-lous, etc. It had been sitting full for the past 4 1/2 months so that nobody could sign in. I just cleaned it out tonight so it is currently empty. I have sent Neill a copy of the old archive file with the current registry tacked on the front, in the same format, zipped just as he has the old archive. I don't know if he has had a chance to load that file up to the web site or not. Speaking of the registry archive on Neill's site, has anyone been able to successfully use the archive search facility there? I get a screen full of error messages indicating that "my CGI account has not been enabled". I have not been able to find anyone that does NOT get those messages. If you are able to successfully use that search, please let me know how you got it set up to do that. Any and all feedback on the Owner Registry is invited. Take care. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 148000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 27000 miles PCOR #72 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:27:05 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:27:04 GMT Any DC area bikers that want to ride tomorrow am out Rt 55 towards Front Royal and beyond, plan on meeting at Rt 55 and 15 cross road near Haymarket... at big gas station (Sheetz?) at 9:00. Anyone interested pls e-mail me so I get an idea of how many we got... We'll go out past Front Royal and back 211 on a route my wife and I have taken a few times. Thanks Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:37:42 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Neillnsteph T" To: gobeaugo@prodigy.net, lcshepp@directcon.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, annreid@juno.com, neillnsteph@hotmail.com Subject: RE: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:37:41 GMT I'll try to remember to update that drop down list on the form. >From: Beau Williams >To: "Leland C. Sheppard" , Pacific Coast Owners > >Subject: RE: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:10:38 -0400 (EDT) >MHotMailBB54603B0078D820F3E3CF733F65A29B0; Fri Aug 04 12:11:01 2000 >pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e74JAcR1580896;Fri, 4 >Aug 2000 15:10:38 -0400 >From gobeaugo@prodigy.net Fri Aug 04 12:11:27 2000 > >I don't know if this feedback is more for Leland or Neil, but there is a >small shortcoming in the registry...it only allows responses for up to 1999 >when entering when you bought your bike. I bought mine this year, but >there's on "00" to select. (I selected "99" for the heck of it.) > >"Darth" Beau > >------Original Message------ >From: "Leland C. Sheppard" >Neill Thompson >Sent: August 4, 2000 7:32:07 AM GMT >Subject: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. > > >Hi Coasters, > >Hope everyone is doing well! > >I've just finished building a PC800 Owner Registry gleaned from the >registry archive and the current registry at Neill Thompson's PC800 site >(http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/). > >The owner registry URL is: >http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners >only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site >multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. >If you find any errors or need me to make corrections, please let me >know. > >If you are NOT on the list and wish to be, please sign in on Neill's >site. I will be sweeping his registry about once per week to pull new >owners from it and adding them to mine. > >You are all invited to have as much fun browsing as I had building it. >Owner 998 was from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Wow! We are from all over >the planet! > >Neill gave me access to his registry. That registry includes owners, >visitors, updates, wannabes, lookie-lous, etc. It had been sitting >full for the past 4 1/2 months so that nobody could sign in. I just >cleaned it out tonight so it is currently empty. > >I have sent Neill a copy of the old archive file with the current >registry tacked on the front, in the same format, zipped just as he has >the old archive. I don't know if he has had a chance to load that file >up to the web site or not. > >Speaking of the registry archive on Neill's site, has anyone been able >to successfully use the archive search facility there? I get a screen >full of error messages indicating that "my CGI account has not been >enabled". I have not been able to find anyone that does NOT get those >messages. If you are able to successfully use that search, please let >me know how you got it set up to do that. > >Any and all feedback on the Owner Registry is invited. > >Take care. > >-- >Leland > >'94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 148000 miles >'89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 27000 miles >PCOR #72 > > >Mother of all tupperware parties: > >http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:42:39 EDT Subject: RE: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. To: FWIW, I left the year of purchase blank when I registered and it worked... In a message dated Fri, 4 Aug 2000 3:11:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Beau Williams writes: << I don't know if this feedback is more for Leland or Neil, but there is a small shortcoming in the registry...it only allows responses for up to 1999 when entering when you bought your bike. I bought mine this year, but there's on "00" to select. (I selected "99" for the heck of it.) "Darth" Beau ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Leland C. Sheppard" Sent: August 4, 2000 7:32:07 AM GMT Subject: PC800: Owner registry; Neill's registry. Hi Coasters, Hope everyone is doing well! I've just finished building a PC800 Owner Registry gleaned from the registry archive and the current registry at Neill Thompson's PC800 site (http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/). The owner registry URL is: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/PC800OwnerReg.html It contains owners only (no visitors or wannabes). For those who signed in to Neill's site multiple times, I used the information from the last entry as gospel. If you find any errors or need me to make corrections, please let me know. If you are NOT on the list and wish to be, please sign in on Neill's site. I will be sweeping his registry about once per week to pull new owners from it and adding them to mine. You are all invited to have as much fun browsing as I had building it. Owner 998 was from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Wow! We are from all over the planet! Neill gave me access to his registry. That registry includes owners, visitors, updates, wannabes, lookie-lous, etc. It had been sitting full for the past 4 1/2 months so that nobody could sign in. I just cleaned it out tonight so it is currently empty. I have sent Neill a copy of the old archive file with the current registry tacked on the front, in the same format, zipped just as he has the old archive. I don't know if he has had a chance to load that file up to the web site or not. Speaking of the registry archive on Neill's site, has anyone been able to successfully use the archive search facility there? I get a screen full of error messages indicating that "my CGI account has not been enabled". I have not been able to find anyone that does NOT get those messages. If you are able to successfully use that search, please let me know how you got it set up to do that. Any and all feedback on the Owner Registry is invited. Take care. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 148000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 27000 miles PCOR #72 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:51:12 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:51:11 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Jim Alexander >http://www.pfranc.com/ Hey, Jim, I've seen this URL before on another list. Have you actually used this gentleman's "Shareware" plug? It looks intriguing. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:53:45 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:53:44 PDT >----Original Message Follows---- >From: David Kelly >http://pfranc.com/ >I've used them. They work. Taught me the Genuine Garmin at $19 from >http://gps4fun.com/ wasn't such a bad deal. Hmmm, methinks I should read the ENTIRE thread before asking questions??!! Thanks, David! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (119K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (6K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "SUV drivers are 50% more likely to be yakking on cell phones." - Comment from Traffic Safety study, NHSTA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dsinofsky@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:22:16 EDT Subject: PC800: Western Mass/No CT PC Riders To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Chris (owner of Nebu...well you know the rest) and I are going on a little ride this Sunday through Northwest CT (and who knows where else). Let me know if anyone else is interested in a Sunday drive. Darren Sinofsky 1989 PC800 "The Crib" Western Mass -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter P. Kaputsos" Subject: PC800: Wanted '94 or '95 PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello All: I am interested in buying (unless someone would like to donate to me for free) a 1994 or 1995 Honda Pacific Coast PC800. I promise your PC800 will have a warm and loving home, be meticulously maintained and cared for, and garage kept. Please respond to: pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu with asking price, mileage, brief service history and if possible some pics. Sincerely: Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:04:30 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Beau Williams" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go... Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 17:21:47 -0500 Beau, I bought one of the BMW kits and it works perfectly. I haven't had a = flat since. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Beau Williams=20 To: pc=20 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 12:01 AM Subject: PC800: Stop & Go... Hey, all; Based on the advice of another lister, I went ahead and ordered one of = the beaded seat covers from the Whitehorse Press website. I'm going to = give it a try. While I was there, I noticed that they also sell the "Stop & Go" tire = repair kit. It includes some sort of gun device which helps you insert = the plug into the tire and 4 CO2 cartridges. Have any of you tried = this? Is it okay? (I know some of you have recommended the kits sold = at BMW dealers, but there are none conveniently located near me.) Thanks in advance... ..."Darth" Beau conveniently=20 located near me.)
 
Thanks in advance...
 
..."Darth" Beau
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:10:11 -0400 From: Dale To: Russ Goff CC: pc800listserver Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware Since I don't get to read the posts every day, there are quite a few messages when I get to it. Needless to say, I skim through most of them and some I delete without even reading. Looks like I missed something. What the heck are tupperware decals? They keep popping up and I don't have a clue as to what they are. Someone enlighten me, please. Russ Goff wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harvey P. Sattin" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:50 AM > Subject: PC800: Re: Tupperware > > > My Tupperware decals are alway getting noticed. > > I'm sure whoever else has them is experiencing the same thing. > > > > ~Harvey Sattin > > Brookline, MA > > '98PC800 > > > Mine too! Many queried looks and then laughter as MOST people realise it is > a joke. > > Russ > Milton Keynes GB > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > '89 PC800 "Obelix" > Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:26:36 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: '94 or '95 PC800 Wanted Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 17:43:53 -0500 Peter, I saw one in "Indiana Auto and RV". Ad reads: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast. Great touring bike, light weight, 800 cc., tall windshield, purchased new in 1996, 34,000 mi., exc. cond., $3900. Belmont, Mi. (616) 866-0920 I don't know this person nor am I recommending this bike I just read the ad. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter P. Kaputsos To: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:38 AM Subject: PC800: '94 or '95 PC800 Wanted > Hi: > > I'm interested in buying a 1994 or 1995 PC800. Anyone > looking to sell? Reply to pkaputsos@post.harvard.edu. > > Peter > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Dale" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:52:50 +0200 >From: "Dale" >What the heck are tupperware decals? Voila: http://lovik.tripod.com/tupperware.jpg Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:13:16 +0200 http://www.chez.com/webmoto/photos.html >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Arvid Løvik" >> Arvid, that back rest looks really sharp...Any info on it? >> Bill Richardson >> 98PC"Scoot" >It does , >if someone on the list that reads french could have a look on the page and >maybe contact the owner, we could know more. There is no info on the backrest on his page, but I've seen that backrest on a couple of Dutch PC's as well, I think you can get them here. I personally find them really ugly and big, but I guess there must be comfortable and really practical too with the luggage rack. I'll ask around here how much they are and who makes them. Also notice the tall french Secdem screen on that PC, perhaps the backrest is also french. I'll see what I can come up with the coming days. Emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:24:38 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: PC Sighting In Naperville, IL Anyone lurking on the list riding through Naperville during tonight's rush hour on a black/silver PC riding with a White Goldwing? I was sitting at the light at Chicago/Maple Ave. at Naper Blvd. Just wondering. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC#542, HRCA, AMA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:34:44 -0400 From: Dale To: Emile Nossin CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: I had one a lot like it on my old CM400 Honda. The way this is set up I doubt you could find a passenger willing to park their butt on it. Emile Nossin wrote: > > http://www.chez.com/webmoto/photos.html > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Arvid Løvik" > >> Arvid, that back rest looks really sharp...Any info on it? > >> Bill Richardson > >> 98PC"Scoot" > >It does , > >if someone on the list that reads french could have a look on the page and > >maybe contact the owner, we could know more. > > There is no info on the backrest on his page, but I've > seen that backrest on a couple of Dutch PC's as well, > I think you can get them here. I personally find them > really ugly and big, but I guess there must be comfortable > and really practical too with the luggage rack. > I'll ask around here how much they are and who > makes them. > > Also notice the tall french Secdem screen on that PC, > perhaps the backrest is also french. I'll see what I > can come up with the coming days. > > Emile > http://go.to/pc800 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - Dale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:50:55 -0400 From: Dale To: PC800 Subject: PC800: plastic repair I just sent an e-mail to Chuck Chiodini seeking help for automotive repair. I think he is the right person. If he isn't could someone let me know as this is semi rush and I would hate to have it sit in the wrong person's mail box for a week while they're away on vacation. Thanks, Dale. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:54:51 EDT Subject: PC800: Arm Rests To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone ever had any luck with passenger arm rests ?? I have the Givi E460 and think there must be a way to mount some sort of arm rests to it. How about it Ann, get the engineer friend on the case. Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 43K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 20:16:24 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Arm Rests To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: >Has anyone ever had any luck with passenger arm rests ?? I have the Givi E460 >and think there must be a way to mount some sort of arm rests to it. How >about it Ann, get the engineer friend on the case. > >Ride Safe >Jim T >Beachwood, NJ >1996 PC800 43K I saw armrests on a Pacific Coast two years ago at Americade while I was in the early morning lineup for a guided tour. They were swing away and padded, but I don't remember any details beyond that. Sorry. At least you know it has been done now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: "Dale" , "Russ Goff" Cc: "pc800listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:02:02 -0700 Hi Dale and others-- Tupperware Decals, get 'em here. I sell them two for $8.00. Either black or silver, you specify. Here's the protocol: Email me your intent and your address (and how many you want) and I'll send them to you with a preaddressed envelope for you to return your check in. It's easy and it's fun, and you don't gotta save boxtops. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dale" To: "Russ Goff" Cc: "pc800listserver" Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Tupperware > Since I don't get to read the posts every day, there are quite a few > messages when I get to it. Needless to say, I skim through most of them > and some I delete without even reading. Looks like I missed something. > > What the heck are tupperware decals? They keep popping up and I don't > have a clue as to what they are. Someone enlighten me, please. > > > Russ Goff wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harvey P. Sattin" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:50 AM > > Subject: PC800: Re: Tupperware > > > > > My Tupperware decals are alway getting noticed. > > > I'm sure whoever else has them is experiencing the same thing. > > > > > > ~Harvey Sattin > > > Brookline, MA > > > '98PC800 > > > > > Mine too! Many queried looks and then laughter as MOST people realise it is > > a joke. > > > > Russ > > Milton Keynes GB > > City & Guilds Motorcycle Mechanic > > '89 PC800 "Obelix" > > Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > "They're all lying. Your job is to figure out who's lying least." - > Dale > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:03:25 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:01:45 -0500 Hey Tim, if you saw Arvid at Pisgah Inn, he used the Shareware plug on his GPS for his cross country trip. I made him a power cable and a data cable. I got the cigarette lighter plug on sale at Radio Shack for $5 and the data cable at a local computer place for $5. I bought 5 of the Shareware plugs for $20 =$4 each. $9 each for the 2 cables, $18 total. I didn't hear a complaint from Arvid, at least not yet. After I got the ends soldered up, I wrapped a ty-wrap around the connector at the cable to make sure it stayed together and I also left the extra strap hanging out to use as a handle to make it easier to unplug. The only real tough part was stripping the wires and soldering the little tiny connections. The fat fingers that made that a problem were the same reason I left the ty-wrap strip hanging. :-) Now that I think about it, I should have shrink wrapped the cord and connector junction before I ty-wrapped it. Oh well. Next time. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" > > Hey, Jim, I've seen this URL before on another list. Have you actually used > this gentleman's "Shareware" plug? It looks intriguing. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:13:19 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Dale" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: plastic repair Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:14:48 -0500 Chuck is the motorcycle body man. Not sure about auto bodies. Remember he is semi-retired and if I were him, I'd be on the road somewhere about now. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dale" > I just sent an e-mail to Chuck Chiodini seeking help for automotive > repair. I think he is the right person. If he isn't could someone let me > know as this is semi rush and I would hate to have it sit in the wrong > person's mail box for a week while they're away on vacation. > Thanks, Dale. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: KC2ATQ@aol.com, "'pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Arm Rests Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:38:12 -0700 Sounds like something that could have been adapted from the late 80' to early 90's Gold Wing or possibly a Yamaha Venture. I do remember at one point the three major Japanese Touring Bike models had swing away passenger arm rests made from chromed tubular steel with a pad on them. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us[SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:16 PM > To: KC2ATQ@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Arm Rests > > KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > >Has anyone ever had any luck with passenger arm rests ?? I have the Givi E460 > > >and think there must be a way to mount some sort of arm rests to it. How > >about it Ann, get the engineer friend on the case. > > > >Ride Safe > >Jim T > >Beachwood, NJ > >1996 PC800 43K > > I saw armrests on a Pacific Coast two years ago at Americade while I was in > the > early morning lineup for a guided tour. They were swing away and padded, but I > don't remember any details beyond that. Sorry. At least you know it has been > done now. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Arm Rests Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:41:31 -0700 > Sounds like something that could have been adapted from the late 80' to early > 90's Gold Wing or possibly a Yamaha Venture. I do remember at one point the > three major Japanese Touring Bike models had swing away passenger arm rests > made from chromed tubular steel with a pad on them. > > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer > > > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us[SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:16 PM > To: KC2ATQ@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Arm Rests > > KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > >Has anyone ever had any luck with passenger arm rests ?? I have the Givi E460 > > >and think there must be a way to mount some sort of arm rests to it. How > >about it Ann, get the engineer friend on the case. > > > >Ride Safe > >Jim T > >Beachwood, NJ > >1996 PC800 43K > > I saw armrests on a Pacific Coast two years ago at Americade while I was in > the > early morning lineup for a guided tour. They were swing away and padded, but I > don't remember any details beyond that. Sorry. At least you know it has been > done now. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:06:42 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:05:45 -0400 Check their website www.clearviewshields.com . They most definitely ARE DOT approved. Last thing I'd want is to have a get-off caused by a windshield flopping in my face. Don't forget about scratches: Lexan has a hard scratch-resistant coating, which when damaged, ruins the whole shield (anyone want my old hazy stock shield?). Acrylic just scratches a bit and can be polished out (CDs for instance). Clay in NJ ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... > I am assuming that the Clearview shield isn't a DOT-approved windscreen, as > the Hondaline has to be since it is a factory item sold for a motor vehicle > that is bound by DOT regulations. I bought a Clearview for my Helix awhile > back, and nowhere was it stamped with a DOT symbol... This maybe why the > Clearview is thicker... Of course, this doesn't explain the Rifle jitters at > all : ) The last thing I would want to hit in a get-off would be a hard, > inflexible windshield... Lexan will bend almost 120-130 degrees without > breaking. > > Troy > 1997 PC800 "Gabrielle" > Goose Creek (Charleston), SC USA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:51:11 PDT." Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:08:22 -0500 "Tim Macy" writes: > >http://www.pfranc.com/ > > Hey, Jim, I've seen this URL before on another list. Have you actually used > this gentleman's "Shareware" plug? It looks intriguing. Think I made a pledge of $5 for 4, or something like that. They sent the 4 I asked for with a note stating something to the effect they thought the connectors were worth $2.50 each. So I sent $10. The connectors do work. They are fairly hard to assemble. I had an awful time getting the wires connected to the gold pins that were provided. I used to consider myself a moderately capable electronics technician. But when I took a couple of thes to work and gave them to our real tech who had just purchased a III+, he taught me a lesson in humility. He got the connectors together and reliable. But admitted that more care was needed than, say, when soldering a DB9 connector. As I said before, it taught me the (discounted) Garmin cable at $19 wasn't such a bad deal. http://www.gps4fun.com/ If I want to work as hard as I did making the pfranc connectors work, I think I'd try carving my own out of delrin or something. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 20:01:45 CDT." <007501bffe79$2b8fb740$d45932cf@tcac.net> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:13:22 -0500 From: David Kelly "Steve Wilson" writes: > Hey Tim, if you saw Arvid at Pisgah Inn, he used the Shareware plug on > his GPS for his cross country trip. I made him a power cable and a data > cable. I got the cigarette lighter plug on sale at Radio Shack for $5 > and the data cable at a local computer place for $5. I bought 5 of the > Shareware plugs for $20 =$4 each. $9 each for the 2 cables, $18 total. I > didn't hear a complaint from Arvid, at least not yet. After I got the > ends soldered up, I wrapped a ty-wrap around the connector at the cable > to make sure it stayed together and I also left the extra strap hanging > out to use as a handle to make it easier to unplug. The only real tough > part was stripping the wires and soldering the little tiny connections. > The fat fingers that made that a problem were the same reason I left the > ty-wrap strip hanging. :-) Now that I think about it, I should have > shrink wrapped the cord and connector junction before I ty-wrapped it. > Oh well. Next time. LOL. Thats pretty much my experience with them. Thats why I've purchased a couple of the Garmin pre-built cables from my nearby GPS store for $19 each. Then again, you saved $1, and had lots of fun too, right? :-) While we're at it, took me a while to get over trying to use velcro to mount the darn thing. At $25 the Garmin bracket has put an end to my worries and the length of shoestring I used as an emergency tiedown in case the velcro let loose. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:37:16 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC list Subject: Re: PC800: Arm Rests For the Goldwing they were all aftermarket. Thomas Peter Noeth wrote: > > Sounds like something that could have been adapted from the late 80' to early > 90's Gold Wing or possibly a Yamaha Venture. I do remember at one point the > three major Japanese Touring Bike models had swing away passenger arm rests made > from chromed tubular steel with a pad on them. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 19K, '99 Bushtech Quantum > trailer > > > ---------- > > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us[SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:16 PM > > To: KC2ATQ@aol.com > > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: Re: PC800: Arm Rests > > > > KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > > >Has anyone ever had any luck with passenger arm rests ?? I have the Givi E460 > > > > >and think there must be a way to mount some sort of arm rests to it. How > > >about it Ann, get the engineer friend on the case. > > > > > >Ride Safe > > >Jim T > > >Beachwood, NJ > > >1996 PC800 43K > > > > I saw armrests on a Pacific Coast two years ago at Americade while I was in > > the > > early morning lineup for a guided tour. They were swing away and padded, but I > > don't remember any details beyond that. Sorry. At least you know it has been > > done now. > > > > Tim Davies > > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > > > AMA #688662 > > HSTA #8387 > > HRCA #HM100878 > > > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68337U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:02:23 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "David Kelly" Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Plug Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:03:48 -0500 Hi David, it was $18 for 2 cords, not 1. BTW, I just got a note from Arvid telling me that he can't get the Street Pilot to load with the data cable I made. I think it was the fault of the lawnmowerman (me) trying to play electronics technician. Another BTW, I used the Super Velcro from Radio Shack and almost have to tear the SP apart to get it off the bike. :-) I still attached a camera lanyard as a safety. (in case the bracket I made breaks) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David Kelly" > LOL. Thats pretty much my experience with them. Thats why I've purchased > a couple of the Garmin pre-built cables from my nearby GPS store for > $19 each. Then again, you saved $1, and had lots of fun too, right? :-) > > While we're at it, took me a while to get over trying to use velcro to > mount the darn thing. At $25 the Garmin bracket has put an end to my > worries and the length of shoestring I used as an emergency tiedown in > case the velcro let loose. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FEN4D93V; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:21:46 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:21:37 -0500 Subject: PC800: Going Off List (To Europe!) From: Tony L Miller Fellow Listers: I'll be off the list for 9 days while I travel to Kiev, Ukraine. I'll be working on a missions project there, at the Christian University. Will any listers be in the vicinity? Tony ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Risks To: Dave Klein , pc800@hpc.uh.edu I agree Dave, if it's too hot to ride with a jacket, its usually too hot to ride, at least for me! Paul --- Dave Klein wrote: > Seems like every Summer this list talks about the inherent risks of > cycling & accidents some have had. > Last Summer i think what started it was John & his run in with a > teenager & her Ford Excursion. He got banged up really good & PC was > totaled. He gave up Cycle Riding for Good & sold alot of his riding > goods to PC'ers on the list. > > I don't want to get Banged up. I wear Full protective Gear & like > Emile > said last year--'If it's to hot to wear your Protective gear--it's > too > Hot to ride'. > > I wear a Aerostich 1 piece suit with full hard shell armor plus hip > pads > & spine pad. Full face helmet, kevlar armored gloves, & Army > Paratrooper > Boots. If i take a spill at interstate speeds i feel i have a chance > to > come out of it as best as possible. > > I LOVE riding my PC but limit around town riding because of the risk > factor & because the Suit is to Warm for stop n go traffic on a Hot > day. > > Interstate Riding/commuting makes up most of my miles & I really like > my > Aerostich. > > My $2 {inflation} > > Dave Klein > Ft. Wayne, Ind. > 97PC--16,000mi. > "Have Trunk--Will Travel" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: To: PC800 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and in the eye of this beholder that backrest is truly ugly!. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:49:31 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu C'est ne ce pas belle. It looks kinda industrial on the PC. Actually, looks a lot like the sort of aftermarket hard rests you see on... Err.. Harleys. Still... Whatever works. And I do love that blue colour! Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:05:39 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 8/4/00 8:17:52 AM Central Daylight Time, gobeaugo@prodigy.net writes: << http://www.nanmra.com >> Okay... Many, many years and several pounds ago, I performed this particular bit of foolishness. I was at a lake, on a soft, grassy trail, with a little Suzuki enduro and a winsome lass who provoked tremendous stupidity on my part. A large group of us had been skinny dipping, and this particular young lady and I were motivated to find someplace a little more private. The bike was closer than either clothes or sanity, so we rode off. The ride _to_ was significantly better than the ride _from_ . My companion scorched her leg on the side pipe, and I ended up with a mighty peculiar chafe. Not to mention the more than slight embarassment when we discovered that our companions had returned to the lakefront cabin... And thoughtfully taken our clothing along with them. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:08:40 EDT Subject: Fwd: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is not going to change anyone's mind about helmets. I think that it probably should, but... People have a habit of living in utter denial of risks. That "It won't happen to _me_ " vibe. The same one, ironically, that allows all of _us_ to ride, daily, at speeds that all but guarantee death, should something happen... Something that all too easily might. We are aware of the risk, and take steps to tame it- leathers, boots, gloves and the like- but we really cannot ablate chance. Yet we ride. Burying this awareness... Shifting it. Sublimating it into part of the experience, part of the thrill. Sometimes I wonder if we're really sane, any of us who ride. If there is not something deeply bent about what we do. A sense of shaking our fists at the fates and saying; "What the hell, do your damndest." I have yet to speak to a rider who lacked a tinge of the fatalist. You've all heard the rant. Some of you have even said it. "Something's gonna get me, sooner or later," it runs. "Might as well be when I'm enjoying myself." Well. What of the lives we affect? The people who care about us and depend on us. The people who love us, and who would be deeply damaged by our loss. I was riding along, yesterday, on the interstate... And having a pretty damned good time of it, too. 65 mph, bike humming strongly, wind on my face. It was a gorgeous day, and I felt kinda sorry for the people in their cars and vans, trapped away from this marvellous day. Then I exchanged a glance with a mother, tootling along in the inevitable mini van, kids strapped in to their various seats. The kids had all smiled as I passed them- kids seem to 'get' motorcycles on almost a glandular level- but the mother... She visibly shuddered and shook her head at me... And I knew what she was thinking. I've heard the same thing from my own mother a thousand times. seen it in the eyes of my girflriend when I grab my helmet and edge twoard the door. I got to my destination and got off the bike as if scalded. I lit a cigarette- talk about denial- and glared at the thing. My marvellous PC, my partner on countless wonders, untold mysterious explorations. I've felt safer with this bike than with any other, and I've learned to be a better rider than I have ever been. And... It could be the death of me in countless ways. It suddenly hit me, as it had never hit before. My SO could be writing to the list tomorrow... A person that I love dearly, telling others that I have grown to love, in a strange, but real manner, how I smeared myself into the ground. My best friend, currently working summer stock theatre in California, could call tomorrow, looking for me, only to find that all of our fine plans and schemes ended against a guard rail somewhere. My crack team of local theatre pirates, just getting enthused about working- under my benevolent dictatorship- could find that it's all... Just over. I think, now, about all that I have done, and all that I have left undone. And I think about how _all_ of that could end in an instant... Because I'm out getting a thrill that I could easily do without. It is interesting that this latest tale of motorcycle assisted death comes at this time. In the Air Force, amoungst the pilots, this sort of thing is discussed in terms of manly nerve: You either have it... Or you don't. No transition... And no hard feelings for those of the brotherhood who've lost it. One day you're bustin' the sky at Mach 2, feeling fast, free, and totally above it all. The next day you cannot climb into the cockpit. The way it's been explained to me, by those that have gone through this, is that... You start thinking. Not that you haven't thought _before_.... But suddenly, where you're supposed to be thinking about fuel loads and trim.... Or about beer call at the club after this little old certification flight... You start thinking about your wife and kids. About your obligations to those you love... And how easily that could all be blown away. I think I've lost my nerve, friends. I went out, tonight, on a simple ride to the Kwik Shop. Nothing to it, no high speed, no tricky curves, no traffic. And I did _not_ enjoy it. I'm gonna monitor this feeling, tomorrow. See if I can get back on the bike, thinking as I now do, and take her up in a serious way. If I cannot... I am going to get rid of it. Something else that my pilot friends have told me... Which I instinctively recognize as true... Is that... Once the nerve goes, it does not come back... And, while you can try to work past it... Once the nerve is lost, you're far better off walking away. You become trepidatious. Overly cautious. Like the little old man who never exceeds 25 mph. You're so constantly aware of the potential disasters that you can no longer think straight. 20,000 miles, in good shape. A little section of the light in back is missing, but that can be replaced pretty cheap. Runs good. I've got her on a loan, but if someone wants to assume a grand or two of extra debt... I'd rather sell that- and the bike- off to a rider... Than simply turn her back to the loan officer. Think about it, and if I have to let her go, I'll put her up here first. I'll be sad- miss the thing like crazy- but... I think it would be better to miss the thing, than feel like I'm gonna die on her. Kendall ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:17:40 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Did you mean to send this just to me, or to the list? I got it, but didn't see it on the list. Good thoughts. Personally I think only motorcyclists who understand and accept the risks keep riding. Otherwise, the first close call would convince them to quit. I definitely agree that a rider who has lost "the edge" or whatever it should be called, is smart for not riding. best, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:09:59 EDT >This is not going to change anyone's mind about helmets. I think that it >probably should, but... People have a habit of living in utter denial of >risks. That "It won't happen to _me_ " vibe. The same one, ironically, that >allows all of _us_ to ride, daily, at speeds that all but guarantee death, >should something happen... Something that all too easily might. > >We are aware of the risk, and take steps to tame it- leathers, boots, gloves >and the like- but we really cannot ablate chance. > >Yet we ride. Burying this awareness... Shifting it. Sublimating it into part >of the experience, part of the thrill. > >Sometimes I wonder if we're really sane, any of us who ride. If there is not >something deeply bent about what we do. A sense of shaking our fists at the >fates and saying; "What the hell, do your damndest." I have yet to speak to a >rider who lacked a tinge of the fatalist. You've all heard the rant. Some of >you have even said it. "Something's gonna get me, sooner or later," it runs. >"Might as well be when I'm enjoying myself." > >Well. What of the lives we affect? The people who care about us and depend on >us. The people who love us, and who would be deeply damaged by our loss. > >I was riding along, yesterday, on the interstate... And having a pretty >damned good time of it, too. 65 mph, bike humming strongly, wind on my face. >It was a gorgeous day, and I felt kinda sorry for the people in their cars >and vans, trapped away from this marvellous day. Then I exchanged a glance >with a mother, tootling along in the inevitable mini van, kids strapped in to >their various seats. The kids had all smiled as I passed them- kids seem to >'get' motorcycles on almost a glandular level- but the mother... She visibly >shuddered and shook her head at me... > >And I knew what she was thinking. I've heard the same thing from my own >mother a thousand times. seen it in the eyes of my girflriend when I grab my >helmet and edge twoard the door. > >I got to my destination and got off the bike as if scalded. I lit a >cigarette- talk about denial- and glared at the thing. My marvellous PC, my >partner on countless wonders, untold mysterious explorations. I've felt safer >with this bike than with any other, and I've learned to be a better rider >than I have ever been. And... It could be the death of me in countless ways. >It suddenly hit me, as it had never hit before. > >My SO could be writing to the list tomorrow... A person that I love dearly, >telling others that I have grown to love, in a strange, but real manner, how >I smeared myself into the ground. My best friend, currently working summer >stock theatre in California, could call tomorrow, looking for me, only to >find that all of our fine plans and schemes ended against a guard rail >somewhere. My crack team of local theatre pirates, just getting enthused >about working- under my benevolent dictatorship- could find that it's all... >Just over. > >I think, now, about all that I have done, and all that I have left undone. >And I think about how _all_ of that could end in an instant... Because I'm >out getting a thrill that I could easily do without. It is interesting that >this latest tale of motorcycle assisted death comes at this time. > >In the Air Force, amoungst the pilots, this sort of thing is discussed in >terms of manly nerve: You either have it... Or you don't. No transition... >And no hard feelings for those of the brotherhood who've lost it. One day >you're bustin' the sky at Mach 2, feeling fast, free, and totally above it >all. The next day you cannot climb into the cockpit. The way it's been >explained to me, by those that have gone through this, is that... You start >thinking. Not that you haven't thought _before_.... But suddenly, where >you're supposed to be thinking about fuel loads and trim.... Or about beer >call at the club after this little old certification flight... You start >thinking about your wife and kids. About your obligations to those you >love... And how easily that could all be blown away. > >I think I've lost my nerve, friends. I went out, tonight, on a simple ride to >the Kwik Shop. Nothing to it, no high speed, no tricky curves, no traffic. >And I did _not_ enjoy it. I'm gonna monitor this feeling, tomorrow. See if I >can get back on the bike, thinking as I now do, and take her up in a serious >way. > >If I cannot... I am going to get rid of it. Something else that my pilot >friends have told me... Which I instinctively recognize as true... Is that... >Once the nerve goes, it does not come back... And, while you can try to work >past it... Once the nerve is lost, you're far better off walking away. You >become trepidatious. Overly cautious. Like the little old man who never >exceeds 25 mph. You're so constantly aware of the potential disasters that >you can no longer think straight. > >20,000 miles, in good shape. A little section of the light in back is >missing, but that can be replaced pretty cheap. Runs good. I've got her on a >loan, but if someone wants to assume a grand or two of extra debt... I'd >rather sell that- and the bike- off to a rider... Than simply turn her back >to the loan officer. > >Think about it, and if I have to let her go, I'll put her up here first. > >I'll be sad- miss the thing like crazy- but... I think it would be better to >miss the thing, than feel like I'm gonna die on her. > > >Kendall > Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 03:16:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Cell phone in Ohio To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu For my last job, I was required to carry a cell phone, once in a while, so that I could be accessible to customers during off hours. Every so often, as I was riding someplace, that sucker would ring. Now, by default, any call through that thing was inportant, and it was worth my job to ignore it. However, unless I was near a parking lot or some such place- where I could safely stop- I let it go. Dialed back whoever called when I could. I cannot imagine any call so important that you would try to answer it while riding. Give me the willies to think of anyone trying. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:00:25 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle acciden t Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:00:22 +0200 > From: KGray96057@aol.com[SMTP:KGray96057@aol.com] > We are aware of the risk, and take steps to tame it- leathers, boots, > gloves > and the like- but we really cannot ablate chance. > Yet we ride. Burying this awareness... Shifting it. Sublimating it into > part > of the experience, part of the thrill. > Sometimes I wonder if we're really sane, any of us who ride. > I have yet to speak to a rider who lacked a tinge of the fatalist. > I've felt safer with this bike than with any other, and I've learned to be > a better > rider than I have ever been. And... It could be the death of me in > countless ways. > It suddenly hit me, as it had never hit before. > (Loooong reply...) Kendall, you've been talking to much with your mother. Myths and prejudices plenty for those that have no experience and knowledge of a subject. If you're becoming paranoid about riding your bike you might as well be paranoid about getting on a plane, driving a car or walking on the street. The mom riding the van perhaps has less driving skills than you and your bike and might well have a better chance of an accident. If she would really think about what would happen if she would be distracted by her kids in the back and would fail to make a quick maneuver she might not have shaken her head in ignorance.. A PC is can steer quicker and brake sooner (with proper training) and that cage around her won't make her invulnerable. Lots of cagers believe in that fake safety feeling when sitting in their little rooms believing those bikers are nuts. It's also easy to get paranoid about flying if you consider what would happen IF. Or about walking on the street.. what would happen if a car hits you, a comet strikes you, or what if you would trip in the shower and hit your head. You could be dead at an instant ! You'd be better of sitting at home... but what would then happen if a plane would crash on your house ? Your SO could be writing to the list tomorrow that you were killed when the emergency personell could not get you sawed out of the bus wreckage. Your best friend could call only to find that all your fine plans were ruined because you fell of the stairs. This kind of fatalistic, black and paranoid thinking is dangerous indeed Kendall and it will stop you enjoying life in general.Because it's hypocritical to apply that fear only to motorcycling. If you really think that (irrational) fear is valid you should also apply it to flying, swimming, walking on the street, down the stairs, driving, even sitting in you la-z-boy at home. The risk of getting an instant fatal accident is everywhere. The chances of getting one is higher in certain activities than others. As a pilot I also know that IF something happens when flying the chances that it will be fatal are bigger than everywhere. But because people controlling planes are usually dedicated professionals (unlike the people around you when driving on the freeway) the chances of actually getting an accident at all are smaller than when you would be walking on the street (for airliners that is... not GA). The same applies to motorcycling. When you ride with a proffesional and healthy attitude and proper training I think you're safer than the average cage driver. Yes, the static safety (cage) is higher in a car. But attitude and training determines wheter they get an accident in 80 procent of the cases. And lots of people still die in car crashes. But static safety when walking on the street is even lower than on the bike, what if you get hit by a car ? I'm not trying to get your scared of everything, just hoping to show you the irrationalety and hypocracy of lots of moms and other people. I pilot planes and motorcycles and I'm not a fatalist. I'm realistic in knowing that I'm more vulnerable on a bike and in a plane as well. I try to compensate that with the right attitude and by wearing protective gear on the bike. It's called risk management. I'm not passive into thinking my time will come, I'm not willing and wanting to die for flying nor motorcycling. I'm activally trying to reduce chances. I've taken the risks into consideration and have determined for myself that with the right atttitude I should be able to get a lower chance in an accident than the average cage driver. I know there's always a small percentage of chance that an accident might occur which I could not have prevented and I know that can happen at anytime, like slipping in the bathroom and getting killed by hitting my head on the sink...or being run over by a car..or having my monitor explode. In case something like this would happen on the bike I wear protective gear and perhaps the ABS/TCS might help me out in the instance where training will have skipped my brain, the primary reason for accidents. Life's full of hidden dangers, it just seems so obvious on a motorcycle. That's why they are so easy targeted by moms and the like. It's sad to see you suddenly live your life in fear, Kendall. It's irrational and I hope it doesn't take over the rest of your life. A little fear in life and riding is natural and healthy, it can keep you sharp. But if you feel you can't think of anything else except of the fear you should indeed not be riding, driving, flying or walking (or whatever the fear applies to). I hope you can get your mind of the fear and focused on more important and realistic subjects so you can continu to enjoy your life. Your message has really struck me and surprised me. Not because I finaly realised the risk or so but because I think you're wrong and because I find it sad and surprising how quickly someone's happiness can be transformed into fear. Good luck, Emile preach mode off... "Motocycling isn't dangerous, crashing is.." "One who has not traveled is full of prejudices.." www.piloot.com > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:36:08 -0400 Please forgive me for bringing this up if it's already been a thread, but I am not confident I can install my new GiVi 460 topcase using only the diagram provided. I'd hate to screw up my '97, and I'm SO capable of doing so. If anyone has installed this case and can provide some instructional help, I would greatly appreciate it! I also bought the light kit and the bracket that goes on top of the case, so if you can help me there, too, I'd be grateful... Sheepishly, but appreciatively, Rick Rick Lockridge CNN Technology Correspondent Atlanta, GA USA (404) 827-3147 '97 PC 800 "Idyllic Acrylic" > ---------- > From: KGray96057@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2000 3:05 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Gear! > > In a message dated 8/4/00 8:17:52 AM Central Daylight Time, > gobeaugo@prodigy.net writes: > > << http://www.nanmra.com >> > > Okay... > > Many, many years and several pounds ago, I performed this particular bit of > foolishness. I was at a lake, on a soft, grassy trail, with a little Suzuki > enduro and a winsome lass who provoked tremendous stupidity on my part. A > large group of us had been skinny dipping, and this particular young lady and > I were motivated to find someplace a little more private. The bike was closer > than either clothes or sanity, so we rode off. > > The ride _to_ was significantly better than the ride _from_ . My companion > scorched her leg on the side pipe, and I ended up with a mighty peculiar > chafe. Not to mention the more than slight embarassment when we discovered > that our companions had returned to the lakefront cabin... And thoughtfully > taken our clothing along with them. > > > Kendall > 95 PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: , Subject: PC800: Re: The lady shaking her head at Kendall Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:45:44 -0700 Kendall; Well-written. I understand and accept 99.9% of it. Ever since my two small strokes earlier this year, I think about my two (not-quite-old-enough-to-bury-me-with-their-own-money) boys each and every time I climb on the bike. Then, I think about how they fight to see who's turn it is to ride with dad when he runs errands, and that helps a lot. As to the lady in the mini-van shaking her head...I've seen that a few times too. However, I usually just wait a few minutes before letting it get to me. Without fail, I later see her make an unsafe lane change which could kill her and her kids at any other moment in time, and I realize that it's rarely the act of riding the motorcycle itself that is the issue; it's quality of the rider. She was probably more of a danger to those kids than she was to me. I used to be absolutely terrified of riding a motorcylce when I was young (which really pissed off my dad, who was a motocross racer), but when I moved out and discovered that I couldn't afford both car payments and the insurance to cover it, I learned to deal with my fear and ride m/c's. I ended up having to ride through parts of town in which you could actually see the insurance companies paint the "red lines" and after surviving the drivers there, you learned why. However, it was that childhood fear that has kept me alive all these years, keeping me from being in the bad spots when others (cagers driving like they're on motorcycles and motorcyclists driving like the road is padded and can't hurt them) drive like they do. I'm pretty confident that my self-preservation radar is one of the best around...I can smell the morons long before they get near me. I suppose that's what makes me a boring rider. My kids, however, think I'm exciting as all hell. And, you know, maybe I am... ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , Subject: PC800: Planes and Motorcycles Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:54:31 -0700 You know what's so funny? I'll ride motorcycles, but I refuse to ride in a private plane. (Emile mentioned planes in his response to Kendall.) Now, it may make perfect sense to anyone who's like-minded, but to anyone who's afraid of both, it would seem hypocritical. (They would see the risk of both at the same level. So, how could you accept the risk of one and not the other.) I'm not knocking Emile or private planes, just pointing out how we each have our own lines that we won't cross and how those lines always look different to those on the other side. Sorry; I'm always pondering stuff like this... ..."Darth" Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:02:12 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Beau Williams" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: The lady shaking her head at Kendall Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:19:06 -0500 Beau, Thanks for the excellent response. I too think that our self-preservation radar is a good defense in the real world of bad drivers and other hazards. As to being a boring rider, I too think of myself as a boring rider and it just hit me now that what is missing from being an exciting rider is my lack of willingness to accept the excitement of riding beyond my abilities or in situations that bring high degrees of danger into the equation (ie. squid-like behavior). I'm sure that flying into a blind corner leaned as far as she'll go is far from boring, but the consequences are too great to balance the danger. I'm willing to take the inherent risks of riding a motorcycle, but I compromise maximum enjoyment by practicing safe riding habits to the extreme. Life needs balance and I'm comfortable with the thrill of riding safely even when I know there is more. Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams To: ; Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 9:45 AM Subject: PC800: Re: The lady shaking her head at Kendall > Kendall; > > Well-written. I understand and accept 99.9% of it. Ever since my two small > strokes earlier this year, I think about my two > (not-quite-old-enough-to-bury-me-with-their-own-money) boys each and every > time I climb on the bike. Then, I think about how they fight to see who's > turn it is to ride with dad when he runs errands, and that helps a lot. > > As to the lady in the mini-van shaking her head...I've seen that a few times > too. However, I usually just wait a few minutes before letting it get to > me. Without fail, I later see her make an unsafe lane change which could > kill her and her kids at any other moment in time, and I realize that it's > rarely the act of riding the motorcycle itself that is the issue; it's > quality of the rider. She was probably more of a danger to those kids than > she was to me. > > I used to be absolutely terrified of riding a motorcylce when I was young > (which really pissed off my dad, who was a motocross racer), but when I > moved out and discovered that I couldn't afford both car payments and the > insurance to cover it, I learned to deal with my fear and ride m/c's. I > ended up having to ride through parts of town in which you could actually > see the insurance companies paint the "red lines" and after surviving the > drivers there, you learned why. However, it was that childhood fear that > has kept me alive all these years, keeping me from being in the bad spots > when others (cagers driving like they're on motorcycles and motorcyclists > driving like the road is padded and can't hurt them) drive like they do. > > I'm pretty confident that my self-preservation radar is one of the best > around...I can smell the morons long before they get near me. I suppose > that's what makes me a boring rider. My kids, however, think I'm exciting > as all hell. And, you know, maybe I am... > > ..."Darth" Beau > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:49:13 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:47:52 -0500 Kendall, I have tremendous respect for the depth of your decision. To give up something for family and friends takes an enormous amount of courage and selflessness, especially to admit your "loss of nerve" to others. There is nothing harder for the average male to do than to admit to other average males a sudden encounter with mortality. All of us will eventually reach that penultimate moment in life at different times and over different issues. I think appreciating the preciousness and fragility of life and understanding our importance to other peoples' lives is a measure of maturity and growth. I wish you well, my friend. May the loves, friendships, and endeavors of your life always be worthy of your sacrifice. Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:52:05 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" CC: fschryner@aol.com, virago920rider@aol.com, lunatic627@aol.com Subject: PC800: Starved Rock Run Here ia an update for the Starved Rock Run on Aug 20th. The routes to Starved Rock are good with only a little construction near Aurora but is only shoulder work. The tentative plan is to meet at the Wyndham Garden Hotel in Naperville, IL and depart from there between 0830-0900hrs. So far those expressing interest is Rich Fenwick, Keith Wood, Michael Prapuolenis, Francois St.Laurent, Mark Gibb, Todd Skar and Paul Atkins. There also 2-3 non PC riders joining the group also (we all can't ride the best motorcycles :)~ ). The end route after the Brunch at the park is Route 6 to I-55 in Chanahon and those from Central and Southern IL/MO can depart from there and those in Northern IL can ride for home. We are looking at around 125 miles of riding not including our travel mileage to the starting point. Will update more next week and if anyone else is interested please feel free to contact me. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97PC800 "Prairie Schooner) PCRC#524, HRCA, AMA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:03:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Rifle shield is rather "floppy" at speed.... To: Tom Boles , pc800@hpc.uh.edu My thanks to everyone for their comments & experience. I am going to take a look at all the mounting screws and the "even-ness" of the shield & fairing this week-end. I didn't call Rifle yet- my wife & I saw "Space Cowboys" instead. Go see it- It's a great film! Tom Boles Sf Bay --- Tom Boles wrote: > Hi everyone- > > After the 3 week flu, a vacation and 2 weeks of > finding a new job, I finally have time to ride the > bike! > > I added the Kaisan brake light modulator (which > makes > me feel a lot better looking in the mirrors at a > stop) > and a new taller Rifle windshield. A Signal Dynamics > headlight modulator awaits bad weather or a surplus > of > time for installation. > > The new shield install was something of a comedy. > The > bike came with a Rifle, but we cracked a corner of > it > getting the bike in the trailer, so the dealer > bought > me a new one. It came with a new base, so I took off > the old bits to put the new one on. In doing so, I > discovered that the big fancy contoured rubber piece > between the bike & adapter base had been left on in > the previous install (Rifle says to remove it) and > that not all the little spacers and shoulder bolts > were present. How was it held in place before? I > went > down to Honda of Milpitas, we looked up all the > hardware and I just said order it all. Eighteen > bucks > & a week later I was ready. It was just an assembly > issue after that. > > So, after riding it around for a week or two, I have > this problem. > > I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam, so I sit pretty tall. At > low speed, I just look over the top of the shield-if > I > slouch, I'm looking through it. At speed, I > definitely > look OVER it. > > What I find is that the top of the shield bends back > & > down about an inch at 65-75 MPH, a common cruising > speed range here in the SF Bay area. In addition, > the > whole top of the shield moves & bounces & flexes a > whole lot more than I am comfortable with. I worry > that the shield will break and cause me a fair > amount > of heartburn at 80 MPH... > > Does this happen to anyone else? > > I'm going to call Rifle tomorrow and hear what they > have to say, but I look to my PC800 brethern for > some > guidance. > > Tom Boles > '90 PC yet un-named > SF Bay > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 12:03:03 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Head light Modulator & the Law Hi everyone, Well got pulled over today in Oswego, IL today while scouting the route for the Starved Rock Run for my flashing headlight. I was told by the Sgt. who pulled me over that it was illegal in IL to have a flashing white light at which I politely advised the Sgt. that in IL & the 48 states and Canada that a headlight modulator is allowed during daytime hours and asked if he would like to see a copy of the Statute. He of course said yes and upon reading it stated, "I never knew that and I will let all the other guys know that and upon writing down the statute number I showed him how the Kisan Pathblazer works and he liked it and that he had noticed me from a 1/2 ahead (he was coming head on after turning onto rt. 71). He had never seen one on a bike and they have alot of motorcycles coming through on the way to I-80 & Starved Rock. So score one for the well informed Motorcyclist and the internet as that is where I downloaded the Statute. Sorry for the long post and stay safe & visible. Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" PCRC#524, HRCA, AMA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:40:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: Rick.Lockridge@turner.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI help! "Lockridge, Rick " > > Please forgive me for bringing this up if it's already been a thread, > but I am not confident I can install my new GiVi 460 topcase using > only the diagram provided. I'd hate to screw up my '97, and I'm SO > capable of doing so. Its terribly difficut. Two Givi reps installed mine on the show floor this year at the Honda Hoot in about 10 minutes. The most interesting thing I heard them mutter was how thankful they were that I had the stock factory seat. The most difficult thing is the allen bolts holding the seat rail in were quite tight. The wrench needs to be fiting snug and tight else it can strip the bolt head and you may never get the bolt out. After getting everything in place, _then_ tighten all your bolts. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Givi Box and Wong Wing Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:50:46 -0400 Importance: Normal Hi all, I know there has been some chatter about this before, but here I go again.... Has anyone tried to get a Givi box on the PC with a the Wing installed? Russ '98 PC800 'Pacifica' http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/russl.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:58:55 -0400 From: "John T. Quinn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Crash bar covers Hi Coasters, Where's a good place to buy crash bar covers for the PC. I checked my local dealer and was given the list price (about $45.00 apiece!). Anyone know of a place that discounts the price? John Quinn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0); Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:06:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:17:42 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI help! From: "Todd E. Gleason" To: David Kelly , , Rick, There's not much to the installation of the GIVI. Just think about the diagram as you look at it. David is right! Be careful removing and reinstalling the bolts which hold the brackets to the stock seat. Still, you'll need to make sure they're good and snug after you've mounted the bracket. It took me about 25 minutes to install the GIVI. I haven't yet installed the brake light (though it came pre-installed in the the case.) (????) Does anyone have suggestions on where to route the wires? Todd -- Todd E Gleason tgleason@uiuc.edu Broadcast News Journalist University of Illinois Extension phone 217-333-9697 1301 W Gregory Drive, Rm75 MC710 fax 217-244-7503 Urbana, Illinois 61801 > From: David Kelly > Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:40:26 -0500 (CDT) > To: Rick.Lockridge@turner.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI help! > > "Lockridge, Rick " >> >> Please forgive me for bringing this up if it's already been a thread, >> but I am not confident I can install my new GiVi 460 topcase using >> only the diagram provided. I'd hate to screw up my '97, and I'm SO >> capable of doing so. > > Its terribly difficut. Two Givi reps installed mine on the show floor > this year at the Honda Hoot in about 10 minutes. > > The most interesting thing I heard them mutter was how thankful they > were that I had the stock factory seat. > > The most difficult thing is the allen bolts holding the seat rail > in were quite tight. The wrench needs to be fiting snug and tight > else it can strip the bolt head and you may never get the bolt out. > > After getting everything in place, _then_ tighten all your bolts. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) > ====================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:16:33 +0200 Well said Ralph.... beautiful.... ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: ; Sent: zaterdag 5 augustus 2000 18:47 Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Kendall, I have tremendous respect for the depth of your decision. To give up something for family and friends takes an enormous amount of courage and selflessness, especially to admit your "loss of nerve" to others. There is nothing harder for the average male to do than to admit to other average males a sudden encounter with mortality. All of us will eventually reach that penultimate moment in life at different times and over different issues. I think appreciating the preciousness and fragility of life and understanding our importance to other peoples' lives is a measure of maturity and growth. I wish you well, my friend. May the loves, friendships, and endeavors of your life always be worthy of your sacrifice. Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0); Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:08:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:20:05 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar covers From: "Todd E. Gleason" To: , Try http://www.azmotorsports.com online. They have offered a 10% discount for online purchases, and there is no tax. Todd -- Todd E Gleason tgleason@uiuc.edu Broadcast News Journalist University of Illinois Extension phone 217-333-9697 1301 W Gregory Drive, Rm75 MC710 fax 217-244-7503 Urbana, Illinois 61801 > From: "John T. Quinn" > Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:58:55 -0400 > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Crash bar covers > > Hi Coasters, > > Where's a good place to buy crash bar covers for the PC. I checked > my local dealer and was given the list price (about $45.00 apiece!). > Anyone know of a place that discounts the price? > > John Quinn > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Head light Modulator & the Law To: William Drake , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Bill, I also have the Kisan and remember reading that statute, but have since lost it. Any chance you have the web page where I can download it to keep in the trunk? Paul in Green Bay --- William Drake wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Well got pulled over today in Oswego, IL today while scouting the > route > for the Starved Rock Run for my flashing headlight. > > I was told by the Sgt. who pulled me over that it was illegal in IL > to > have a flashing white light at which I politely advised the Sgt. that > in > IL & the 48 states and Canada that a headlight modulator is allowed > during daytime hours and asked if he would like to see a copy of the > Statute. > > He of course said yes and upon reading it stated, "I never knew that > and I will let all the other guys know that and upon writing down the > statute > number I showed him how the Kisan Pathblazer works and he liked it > and > that he had noticed me from a 1/2 ahead (he was coming head on after > turning onto rt. 71). He had never seen one on a bike and they have > alot > of motorcycles coming through on the way to I-80 & Starved Rock. > > So score one for the well informed Motorcyclist and the internet as > that > is where I downloaded the Statute. > > Sorry for the long post and stay safe & visible. > > Bill Drake > Bolingbrook, IL > '97 PC800 "Prairie Schooner" > PCRC#524, HRCA, AMA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2000 13:09:40 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: French PC riders passenger backpad modification: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:07:59 +0200 I ran into this PC on the airport today, it has what looks like the French backrest, although a bit bent, rusted and welded on one side: http://emile.itgo.com/images/backrest1.jpg http://emile.itgo.com/images/backrest2.jpg Emile www.piloot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FEQ5AMGB; Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:15:44 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:15:55 -0400 Subject: PC800: Pictures of Helmet Guardian and eMap GPS From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Pictures of the Helmet Guardian and Garmin's eMap GPS are now on my website. http://members.xoom.com/hsattin/pc800.htm ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800 "Rapture" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:50:55 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: William Drake , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Head light Modulator & the Law ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paul Atkins >I also have the Kisan and remember reading that statute, but have since >lost it. Any chance you have the web page where I can download it to >keep in the trunk? http://www.signaldynamics.com/Press%20Releases/dotltr.htm -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar "Soul-less Appliance" - a pejorative term for a motorcycle that doesn't break down. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:18:25 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Mary-Anne Subject: PC800: selling bike Hi, After owning a PC and lurking on this list for a little over a year, I've decided to sell the bike. A big thank you to all - I've learned so much! My bike is a 95 with only 3,800 miles on it. If anyone is interested in buying it, drop me an email. Hubby thinks we should keep it because of the low miles, but I DO NOT want to start collecting bikes! Mary-Anne -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: , "Mary-Anne" Subject: Re: PC800: selling bike Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:26:50 -0700 The first question asked, when you're trolling such a broad reach of cyberwater, is where is the bike? I would encourage all posters of for sale motorcycles, which don't UPS nearly as easy as they might, to include the whereabouts of the subject. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mary-Anne" To: Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: PC800: selling bike > Hi, > > After owning a PC and lurking on this list for a little over a year, I've > decided to sell the bike. A big thank you to all - I've learned so much! > > My bike is a 95 with only 3,800 miles on it. If anyone is interested in > buying it, drop me an email. Hubby thinks we should keep it because of the > low miles, but I DO NOT want to start collecting bikes! > > Mary-Anne > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:17:37 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Mary-Anne Subject: Re: PC800: selling bike Sorry! I'm in Wisconsin, an hour north of Madison. Mary-Anne At 05:26 PM 8/5/00 -0700, you wrote: >The first question asked, when you're trolling such a broad reach of >cyberwater, is where is the bike? > >I would encourage all posters of for sale motorcycles, which don't UPS >nearly as easy as they might, to include the whereabouts of the subject. > >Lee Barker >95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Great Ned" To: Subject: PC800: orderers of T'ware decals Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:41:40 -0700 Excuse the bulk mail here, but there is a batch of orders so I'll use = this method to report that orders have been received from: Tim M Bill R Rick L Emile N Joe C Steve W I will send them out Monday morning. You'll get your decals plus a self = addressed envelope for returning your check. =20 If anyone else wants in on this batch, I'll be checking email = periodically this weekend. Thanks for your interest in this. It just affirms that PC owners are = not only the most interesting and intelligent of all motorcycle groups = planetwide, they are also the most humorous. And willing to take = themselves less seriously than anybody! Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" morning.  You'll=20 get your decals plus a self addressed envelope for returning your=20 check.  
 
If anyone else wants in on this batch, = I'll be=20 checking email periodically this weekend.
 
Thanks for your interest in this.  = It just=20 affirms that PC owners are not only the most interesting and intelligent = of all=20 motorcycle groups planetwide, they are also the most humorous.  And = willing=20 to take themselves less seriously than anybody!
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:55:11 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: GIVI help! To: tgleason@uiuc.edu Cc: dkelly@mail.hiwaay.net, rick.lockridge@turner.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) tgleason@uiuc.edu writes: >Rick, > > There's not much to the installation of the GIVI. Just think about the >diagram as you look at it. David is right! Be careful removing and >reinstalling the bolts which hold the brackets to the stock seat. Still, >you'll need to make sure they're good and snug after you've mounted the >bracket. It took me about 25 minutes to install the GIVI. I haven't yet >installed the brake light (though it came pre-installed in the the case.) > (????) Does anyone have suggestions on where to route the wires? > >Todd The brake light wire is easy to route when you have the seat removed to install the rack (SR-10). I ran the wire down the right arm of the Givi rack and into the trunk where the two pieces of trunk plastic meet. There is a natural "cutout" right there so no actual cutting needs to be done on your part. I secured the wire to the Givi arm with self adhesive wire clips. It's worked fine for two years and about 22,000 miles. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:07:03 +0000 To: KGray96057@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: Fwd: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:07:02 +0000 Kendall, I do not disagree with what you have written, nor with what others have written in response to you. And I am trying to keep in mind that the rest of us on the list are meddling in life-and-death matters when we respond to you about this. However, I want to point out to you that most likely nothing has changed with regard to you riding a motorcycle, except your emotions. You don't have any new facts about the dangers; you already knew all that. You haven't suddenly learned something negative about your abilities, or about the extent of your responsibilities to others. Speaking as one who has made lots of significant decisions on the basis of emotions, I can tell you that it is not an effective practice! I believe that I may have also experienced what you are feeling, maybe not to the same degree. My love of riding has kept me from quitting, and enabled me to start riding again after 6 MISERABLE years of not riding. (Due to financial constraints, not that I had decided to quit!) I am glad to be able to ride. I will not be happy to be killed riding, if that happens, but I suspect that if I were to quit riding and be killed at some other activity, one of my last thoughts would be extreme irritation that I gave up riding and got killed anyway! Good luck making the decision that is right for you; I hope that it is to continue riding! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > > This is not going to change anyone's mind about helmets. I think that it > probably should, but... People have a habit of living in utter denial of > risks. That "It won't happen to _me_ " vibe. The same one, ironically, that > allows all of _us_ to ride, daily, at speeds that all but guarantee death, > should something happen... Something that all too easily might. > > We are aware of the risk, and take steps to tame it- leathers, boots, gloves > and the like- but we really cannot ablate chance. > > Yet we ride. Burying this awareness... Shifting it. Sublimating it into part > of the experience, part of the thrill. > > Sometimes I wonder if we're really sane, any of us who ride. If there is not > something deeply bent about what we do. A sense of shaking our fists at the > fates and saying; "What the hell, do your damndest." I have yet to speak to > a > rider who lacked a tinge of the fatalist. You've all heard the rant. Some of > you have even said it. "Something's gonna get me, sooner or later," it runs. > "Might as well be when I'm enjoying myself." > > Well. What of the lives we affect? The people who care about us and depend > on > us. The people who love us, and who would be deeply damaged by our loss. > > I was riding along, yesterday, on the interstate... And having a pretty > damned good time of it, too. 65 mph, bike humming strongly, wind on my face. > It was a gorgeous day, and I felt kinda sorry for the people in their cars > and vans, trapped away from this marvellous day. Then I exchanged a glance > with a mother, tootling along in the inevitable mini van, kids strapped in > to > their various seats. The kids had all smiled as I passed them- kids seem to > 'get' motorcycles on almost a glandular level- but the mother... She visibly > shuddered and shook her head at me... > > And I knew what she was thinking. I've heard the same thing from my own > mother a thousand times. seen it in the eyes of my girflriend when I grab my > helmet and edge twoard the door. > > I got to my destination and got off the bike as if scalded. I lit a > cigarette- talk about denial- and glared at the thing. My marvellous PC, my > partner on countless wonders, untold mysterious explorations. I've felt > safer > with this bike than with any other, and I've learned to be a better rider > than I have ever been. And... It could be the death of me in countless ways. > It suddenly hit me, as it had never hit before. > > My SO could be writing to the list tomorrow... A person that I love dearly, > telling others that I have grown to love, in a strange, but real manner, how > I smeared myself into the ground. My best friend, currently working summer > stock theatre in California, could call tomorrow, looking for me, only to > find that all of our fine plans and schemes ended against a guard rail > somewhere. My crack team of local theatre pirates, just getting enthused > about working- under my benevolent dictatorship- could find that it's all... > Just over. > > I think, now, about all that I have done, and all that I have left undone. > And I think about how _all_ of that could end in an instant... Because I'm > out getting a thrill that I could easily do without. It is interesting that > this latest tale of motorcycle assisted death comes at this time. > > In the Air Force, amoungst the pilots, this sort of thing is discussed in > terms of manly nerve: You either have it... Or you don't. No transition... > And no hard feelings for those of the brotherhood who've lost it. One day > you're bustin' the sky at Mach 2, feeling fast, free, and totally above it > all. The next day you cannot climb into the cockpit. The way it's been > explained to me, by those that have gone through this, is that... You start > thinking. Not that you haven't thought _before_.... But suddenly, where > you're supposed to be thinking about fuel loads and trim.... Or about beer > call at the club after this little old certification flight... You start > thinking about your wife and kids. About your obligations to those you > love... And how easily that could all be blown away. > > I think I've lost my nerve, friends. I went out, tonight, on a simple ride > to > the Kwik Shop. Nothing to it, no high speed, no tricky curves, no traffic. > And I did _not_ enjoy it. I'm gonna monitor this feeling, tomorrow. See if I > can get back on the bike, thinking as I now do, and take her up in a serious > way. > > If I cannot... I am going to get rid of it. Something else that my pilot > friends have told me... Which I instinctively recognize as true... Is > that... > Once the nerve goes, it does not come back... And, while you can try to work > past it... Once the nerve is lost, you're far better off walking away. You > become trepidatious. Overly cautious. Like the little old man who never > exceeds 25 mph. You're so constantly aware of the potential disasters that > you can no longer think straight. > > 20,000 miles, in good shape. A little section of the light in back is > missing, but that can be replaced pretty cheap. Runs good. I've got her on a > loan, but if someone wants to assume a grand or two of extra debt... I'd > rather sell that- and the bike- off to a rider... Than simply turn her back > to the loan officer. > > Think about it, and if I have to let her go, I'll put her up here first. > > I'll be sad- miss the thing like crazy- but... I think it would be better to > miss the thing, than feel like I'm gonna die on her. > > > Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wallers" To: Subject: PC800: PC for Sale Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:27:20 -0500 I am selling my 97 PC, w/ 9500 miles, rifle fairing+original honda short = shield, AM/FM Cassette, driver and passenger custom backrests, manual = cruise control, and highway pegs. The Bike is in excellent condition. = Make offers to wallers@ndak.net. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0) for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:36:41 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:48:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: GIVI help! From: "Todd E. Gleason" CC: Rick, I completed the knock-out for the electric connection on the GIVI this afternoon. Thanks to Tim Davies and Rick Lockridge I've a couple of good ideas about where to run the wiring. I'll get to the wiring harness Sunday. As for the knockout. It looks pretty scary, and given the limited directions from GIVI, it seems scary to do. It is not. GIVI shows a hammer and a punch driving down on the mounting bracket. I used a hammer and the head of a 9/16 bolt. On the underside of the mounting bracket, just to the right of the latch anchor you'll find a small round depression. This is the punch out. It is only visible from beneath the mounting bracket. I suspect GIVI has you hammer from the top side to avoid splitting the bracket out. When I punched the hole out (it took about three short whacks) it wasn't big enough to take the electrical socket provided by GIVI. I used a metal rasp to file the hole to the correct size. You can pick a "round" rasp up at any hardware store. Get one about as big around a a good thick pen. After sizing the hole the electric socket slipped in and clipped in place. You'll notice two small clips on each side of the socket. One note here. I wasn't paying attention to the metal connectors on the socket the first time I slipped it into place. They're supposed to be parallel with the back of the bike so they line up with the connectors on the topbox. Mine were at a 90 degree angle. I tried twisting the receptacle, but that didn't work. So, I tapped it once from the underside, and out it popped. Now it is in the right way and still fits snuggly. I'll write more about the wire routing when I get the chance. I'm thinking about drilling two holes in one of the brackets (I haven't decided which one yet), running the wire through the hollow SR-10 and following Tim Davies routing suggestion. Todd -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Wallers" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC for Sale Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:33:52 -0700 Wallers, Looks like your system is sending out a virus. At least that is the = message I am getting about active-x controls on the email got from the PC800 List. Hopefully I am = not passing it on. Richard=20 Sequim, WA '90 PC800 Brilliant At least=20 that is the message I am getting about
 active-x controls on the email got from the = PC800=20 List.  Hopefully I am not passing it on.
 
Richard
Sequim, WA
'90 PC800 Brilliant
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:43:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay Leihy" To: "Wallers" Cc: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: VIRUS in your email! Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:43:10 -0400 Was just reading through my messages from the PC800 group, and unfortunately you are infected with a virus called "WScript/Kak.worm". You might want to check somewhere, like McAfee, for info and virus scanning software to get rid of it. Also, if you use Outlook Express, the latest version has some protection against this stuff and is free! Clay in NJ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Abajian, Doug" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Looking for a backrest for '89 PC800 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:49:33 -0700 Would appreciate any info anyone can provide as to where I can purchase a Backrest (part #08111-mr500) for my 1989 Honda PC800. Thanks doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:35:02 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "Pacific Coast" , Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet opponent dies in helmet-less motorcycle accident Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 02