********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:34:52 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: DC Area ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: EarlLaue@aol.com >Another PC800 will be moving to the DC area as soon as I can sell the house >in Dallas. Welcome! -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:40:38 -0300 To: J Serlo , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Votage for a Stator Joe: >I'm buying a used 89 PC. The BMW dealer is going to >check the output of the charging system. (he keeps >forgetting to do that) What would a healthy output be? It'll be somewhere on the other side of 14 volts when the RPM is above 2000. But, you can have good voltage today, and the stator may fail tomorrow. If you have an '89, you probably want to read the "Stator FAQ" near the bottom of: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 1 Jun 00 08:42:09 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: DC PCs CC: EarlLaue@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: EarlLaue@aol.com Another PC800 will be moving to the DC area as soon as I can sell the hou= se in Dallas. ----- Great! Are you riding up? Does that make 6 PCs in the DC area? Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:02:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: An observation "Emile Nossin" writes: > FYI info, there's not much difference in safety between blue (or > black or khaki) jeans (cotton) and wearing nothing (shorts). Even > kevlar padded jeans offer little protection. Only leather and cordura > offer good slide protection. The latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News, in its tradition of offering articles containing much more content that the glossy cycle publications, has an extensive test report, with decent scientific procedures, comparing various leathers and fabrics. The best race leathers slightly outperform the best synthetics, but overall, the edge goes to Cordura. Among the surprises were the relatively poor performances of many leathers. And, somewhere in the article they say that the Aerostich Roadcrafter suit remains the best garment available for street wear. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Loose shifter "Tim Macy" writes: > My shifter became permanently "loose" at about 100K. At 250K, I would > imagine that no amount of tightening will help yours. The shaft will > probably be fine; the teeth on the shifter, however, are probably > becoming stripped. Billy, my advice is to order a new one and replace > it...bolt and all. I see no reason for the shifter to wear out as long as it's kept tight; if allowed to work loose, I can imagine wear of this sort occurring. One possible stopgap (literally) solution is a Loctite product that is designed to fill gaps between worn parts. I don't recall its specific name, but noticed it last weekend while looking for a new tube of Loctite 290. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:21:55 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Commuting Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:21:55 +0000 It's kind of sad, Mark, but the turkey vultures don't say much about Ralph, either. I think they have issues with each other. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > I didn't see a mention of turkey vultures in there anywhere ;-) > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 (almost) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Couey" > To: "Pacific Coast Owners" > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:53 PM > Subject: PC800: Commuting > > > > I live about 10 miles south of Columbia, Missouri and work in Boonville. > I > > can go through town to I-70 and on to work and that's about 70 miles round > > trip. Coming home, I usually get off at either Harrisburg or Midway and > > take the twisty county roads around the south end of town. Deer are > heavily > > over-populated in Boone County (or maybe they're just instinctively drawn > to > > the sound of my motor) so riding around sunrise and sunset entails some > > additional risks. I lost my BMW to a deer two years ago and still carry a > > perhaps unhealthy bit of paranoia as a result. But, when I can shove the > > 'noids to the back of my mind, the ride along those roads is, IMHO, > > fantastic. I can't believe people spend their lives inside cars and don't > > avail themselves of this priceless experience. The sun, the wind, the > > trees, the fresh-mown hay, day-old road kill...it just doesn't get any > > better than this. > > > > --Ralph > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pleasant Commuting Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:19:59 PDT I've done Skyline MANY times and love it, but its strictly a slow cruise. Its pretty and curvy, but the speed limit (35 mph) is waaay too slow for my taste. Speeds are well enforced -- anything above 40 is a good ticket risk. And it's slow for a reason -- the deer come at you at all times of the day and have no fear of cars, let alone a bike. It costs ($5.00?) to get in, but the ticket is good for a week. Weekends in summer can get crowded, and very crowded in the fall... so its better to ride during the week, and the best days I've found are Monday and Tuesday. The further south, the less traffic. There are other curvier roads with great scenery (Rts 250, 33, and 55 into WVA) but they are further from the District and require more time. Does anyone have the book on Motorcycle Tours through Appalachia? It has several day trips close to DC that might be better than Skyline. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tim and Russ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:51:58 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com >Durn tootin. An dang it, you sure nuff right as rain 'bouts me being no Eyedeeho native. I move here from Tennessee yeah I did. Virginny befores that an Texas affores that even! But I got me a hankerin to settle down rat cheer. Like it just fine. Yall come see! You'll see too! The Last Word (before we bury this thread!): I talked to Russ' wife for quite a while one day when he was out riding. She's very "normal"! And obviously very forgiving... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 1 Jun 00 13:27:11 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: dhallis@hotmail.com Subject: PC800: Pleasant Commuting CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Doug, I don't have the book, but the Scenic Byways Website may have some routes= of interest: http://www.byways.org/ From what I remember, they will send yo= u a map of scenic byways in the USA for free if you answer a few questions. If you buy the National Park traveler card (available at the toll booth entrance of all national parks), you pay $50 and get unlimited access to = all the parks you want, regardless of cost for an entire year from the date o= f purchase. This is a great deal (rangers often groan when I show them mine= =2E..) because $50 doesn't buy much in the way of park entrance fees. I have seen the book on motorcycle tours through Appalachia in the Whiteh= orse Press (http://www.whitehorsepress.com/) catalog. I think it is also avail= able through Aerostitch (www.aerostitch.com) Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD "Doug Allis" wrote: I've done Skyline MANY times and love it, but its strictly a slow cruise.= = Its pretty and curvy, but the speed limit (35 mph) is waaay too slow for = my taste. Speeds are well enforced -- anything above 40 is a good ticket ris= k. And it's slow for a reason -- the deer come at you at all times of the da= y and have no fear of cars, let alone a bike. It costs ($5.00?) to get in, but = the ticket is good for a week. Weekends in summer can get crowded, and very crowded in the fall... so its better to ride during the week, and the bes= t days I've found are Monday and Tuesday. The further south, the less traf= fic. There are other curvier roads with great scenery (Rts 250, 33, and 55 int= o WVA) but they are further from the District and require more time. = Does anyone have the book on Motorcycle Tours through Appalachia? It has= = several day trips close to DC that might be better than Skyline. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:24:27 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Maint & Repair Database Update Form Back!! Heya!! After some ISP-related downtime, Monty Shaw's extremely clever web form front-end to your maint/repair database is back on line. So, if you've been holding off on your maint/repair updates, now's the time to catch up! We have maintenance and repair records for over a hundred and thirty bikes! The more info in there, the more valuable it is. In case you haven't seen the database, check it out at: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ If you haven't submitted your repair or maintenance log, drop by the site, and send it in, it'll take 15 minutes. If you can't figure out my instructions, or have any questions, write me. If you don't have detailed records, that's fine! Use your shop invoices or your memory. Repair info is the most useful part of the database, maintenance is great for your own records, but not necessary. If you have your log on line already, don't hesitate to add to it any time. People with no repairs: it's important to hear from you too! Otherwise it will look like every PC800 requires repair. Seeya online. -dan -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server06.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 19:31:19 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Maint & Repair Database Update Form Back!! Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:33:49 -0400 The URL for the Web form that you can use to send your maintenance updates and additions to Daniel is: http://www.microft.com/pc800/pcmaint.jsp This is slightly different from the old one, so bookmark this one when you get there. Enjoy! ]Monty[ 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sandy Sansing" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:16:09 -0500 Hello Ladies and Gentlemen...I'm looking for a Pacific Coast, any year but '89, any color (preferably black or pearl white). I've looked through the archives, but I know that (being archives) they may be out of date, and more bikes may have turned up, or "available" bikes have sold. I have seen 2 for sale around the Little Rock area, one from a dealer (he wants $4900!) and another from an individual (he wants $4000). I know the blue book value is less than that, and I am a "poor" college student, and really can't afford that much. If you know of any PCs for sale, please let me know at sansing@restorationtile.com. I appreciate any help you can give me! Sandy Sansing 1982 Yamaha 550 Maxim MSF Instructor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sandy Sansing" To: Subject: PC800: Wanted--PC800, Arkansas or neighboring state Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:16:58 -0500 Hello Ladies and Gentlemen...I'm looking for a Pacific Coast, any year = but '89, any color (preferably black or pearl white). I've looked = through the archives, but I know that (being archives) they may be out = of date, and more bikes may have turned up, or "available" bikes have = sold. I have seen 2 for sale around the Little Rock area, one from a dealer = (he wants $4900!) and another from an individual (he wants $4000). I = know the blue book value is less than that, and I am a "poor" college = student, and really can't afford that much. If you know of any PCs for = sale, please let me know at sansing@restorationtile.com. I appreciate = any help you can give me! Sandy Sansing 1982 Yamaha 550 Maxim MSF Instructor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: TGPCHPCMY2KMR To: PC800 I have been considering shipping my bike to CA and then me and Cindy flying out Saturday or something. I thought it would be nice to do the week trip down the coast and then take our time riding back to Minnesota instead of pushing it down and then pushing the mileage back. Not much into high mileage days especially since Cindy doesn’t ride that often. My question is who would be willing to accept the bike if I shipped it and make sure it arrives OK? It would be nice if it was within a easy days ride of Eureka. Thanks ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:28:01 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sandy Sansing" >Hello Ladies and Gentlemen...I'm looking for a Pacific Coast, any year but >'89, any color (preferably black or pearl white). I've looked through the >archives, but I know that (being archives) they may be out of date, and >more bikes may have turned up, or "available" bikes have sold. Ummm, okay, everybody, am I the one? All right, I'll do it. Sandy, you have created what is known as a conundrum. You want Pearl White, but don't want an '89. The only Pearl White year WAS '89! But I won't say anything but kudos about your taste in wanting black! AAAKKK--Color Thread Again! >I have seen 2 for sale around the Little Rock area, one from a dealer (he >wants $4900!) and another from an individual (he wants $4000). I know the >blue book value is less than that, and I am a "poor" college student, and >really can't afford that much. If you know of any PCs for sale, please let >me know at sansing@restorationtile.com. I appreciate any help you can give >me! You might be able to find a deal on a good PC for less than $4K, and if you do...snatch it up quickly! It's Riding Season and the prices ain't gonna go down. Unfortunately the PC is also a conundrum in itself. It was gaining in popularity just as Honda took it off the market. So used PC's are going to keep their value. Don't turn down a higher mileage bike if it's in good shape and has been taken care of. PC's are also bulletproof and will give you many years of trouble-free service. Keep posted--a lot of people post on the list with PC's for sale. In fact, I saw one in the latest HSTA STAReview. Is it still for sale, gang? Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 17:37:53 -0400 Subject: PC800: Americade Meetings Finalized To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: Dazzymay103@aol.com, fsl@borgconsulting.com, Skizzo@aol.com, christoffer_carstanjen@yahoo.com, emaillil@home.com, sail2xs@netscape.net From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) It's a little less than one week away for the second annual Honda Pacific Coast (and friends) dinner meeting in Lake George, NY during Americade 2000. It's a little more than one week away for the first annual (unless the place is a bust) Tail O' the Pup ride during Americade 2000. You can still get all the information you need to know about both these events at http://www.sfcs.k12.ny.us/~americade Here is what I figure is the final tally for participation, but it's NEVER too late for you to email me with your desire to join in:-) I have: 6 people for dinner on Wednesday 3 for T O' Pup on Friday 1 for T O' Pup on Saturday Since I said the majority decides the T O' Pup ride day it looks like Friday is the winner this year. I'm sending this message to the PC800 listserv and also to the email address of each person who responded to me with their desire to participate. If I've left you out of the individual mailing then I've lost your name (digital amnesia) and you need to contact me again. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:32:17 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/1/00 2:29:19 PM Mountain Standard Time, timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: << All right, I'll do it. Sandy, you have created what is known as a conundrum. You want Pearl White, but don't want an '89. The only Pearl White year WAS '89! But I won't say anything but kudos about your taste in wanting black! >> Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact that the red (and off-red) models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, even makes the person buy bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let this happen to you! Get yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for it. Russ Vernon 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: J Serlo Subject: PC800: 89 Being delivered tomorrow To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The bike is coming tomorrow!! Nervous/excited/ in debt to my wife who after listening to me for 18 months finally said "Go Get the Damn Thing". Hey nagging works on me just did it in reverse. My biggest fear is payback. I'm sure I'll some other questions. Thanks all, Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: 89 Being delivered tomorrow To: J Serlo , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Few things.. Welcome. Take it easy and slow on the bike, please don't get wound up too much. It's a nice bike, but we want you to be around to enjoy it. Go grocery shopping for her (don't tell her it's fun to shop with the built-in trunk). Buy flowers randomly and with no strings. 18 months of bugging? - now that's a match made in heaven... > The bike is coming tomorrow!! Nervous/excited/ in > debt to my wife who after listening to me for 18 > months finally said "Go Get the Damn Thing". > > Hey nagging works on me just did it in reverse. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: RVPC800@aol.com, timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu "Arrest-me" red is the only way to go - unless you have it repainted blue - then who knows what will happen!! Black is not a color - rather it is all the colors of the spectrum that have been absorbed. Save yourself and fight for your rights!!! Man the lifeboats... cmc ama member aclu member ! But I > won't say anything but > kudos about your taste in wanting black! >> > Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact > that the red (and off-red) > models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, > even makes the person buy > bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let > this happen to you! Get > yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for > it. > > Russ Vernon > 95 PC800 > -- ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:11:50 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "J Serlo" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 89 Being delivered tomorrow Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:26:41 -0500 18 months of nagging for a PC hummmmmm... That sounds about fair. Enjoy your new ride. Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Fri, 2 Jun 2000 02:26:28 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:26:27 +0000 An update: Here is the list of possible participants as of Thursday evening, June 1: David Sigsbee - Memphis, TN Doug Alexander - Paducah, KY Bernie Kohler - Overland Park, KS Chuck Chiodini - Heber Springs, AR Don and Deb Fruehling - Ft. Worth, TX Bill Drake - Bolingbrook, IL Mark Gilb - Arnold, MO Jim Smith - Springfield, MO Ralph Couey - Columbia, MO Ed and Sharon Appler - Conway, AR Steve Wilson and wife - Ruston, LA David Sharum - Ft. Smith, AR Steve DeLorey - St. Louis area, MO Bob Ronecker - St. Louis, MO Christopher Russell-Wood - Silver Spring, MD Jim Terrill - Tulsa, OK Steve Ewens - Lee's Summit, MO Won't it be terrific if most of us are actually able to make it? (I know I sound like a perky little cheerleader, but, darn it, I AM excited!) As I mentioned earlier, I will be out of town from Friday, June 2, through Sunday, June 4. I have heard from several of you with answers to my long list of questions. If you have not yet replied and wish to, you still have time to make your preferences known. I will do my best to have those preferences sorted out and date and route information settled by Sunday or early in the week. See you soon in Arkansas! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 02:45:01 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vivian West-Prapuolenis" To: Subject: PC800: Memorial Weekend Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:47:33 -0500 Importance: Normal Hey gang, I had my first long ride this past holiday weekend. I rode from just outside Chicago (Wheaton) to Lawrence Kansas. I took 88/80 West to 35 and then headed south to KC onto 70 into Lawrence. Ol' Black Magic handled great. I kept her humming along at about 85, stopping for gas around every 150 or so. I made the full 550 to Lawrence in one day, leaving at noon and getting into Lawrence around 9:30 pm. My return was Monday, and I took 70 east to 55 north up to 355. Spent the night in Bloomington before wrapping up Tuesday morning. Not crazy about 55; road needs lotso work. Anyway that's my longest ride ever, er....yet! Couple of observations. First of all, no tunes, yet I wasn't bored out of my mind. It wasn't all that missed. It's kind of like skiing in that your mind is happily occupied. Now don't get me wrong, I want to add some sounds sooner or later, but this wasn't bad. It was a pleasant surprise. Secondly, the bike handles well at speed with few exceptions. On the way back strong North Easterly gusts kept my speed down to 65. Might be me, but the bike didn't seem to like a crosswind from 2 o'clock. 9 or 3 o'clock posed less challenges. Thirdly, the wrists.... only part that really got sore. Well, maybe the shoulders a little also. I now see why some of the other listers have explored different grips and bars.... I'll have to check the archives for the last round of discussions. Lastly, the Clearview +3 was great. I don't know how I would have handled the wind noise and blast. It was great. Still not sure about the Saeng edging. I was going to try to take it off for one way and see if noticed a big difference. Forgot! Only drawback was rain on the visor not being whisked away like with the stock shield. Hmmm wonder if you could retro fit an electric Beemer shield... : ) All in all the trip was great! Despite a holiday weekend, bearly any Smokeys. Avoided all the rain. Missed the numerous deer, that others apparently didn't, throughout Iowa and Missoura. Waved my left hand silly in southern Illinois Monday as what appeared to be thousands of bikes headed back? to St. Louis. Got a taste of the road and I'm eager to for another. Now all I need is the winning lotto tix to get this silly job habit out of the way.... Ride Safe!! ~ @ \ ~ _|=>/ ~ (_)\(_) Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois (Wheaton)=20 to Lawrence Kansas. I took 88/80 West to 35 and then headed south to KC = onto 70=20 into Lawrence.  Ol' Black Magic handled great.  I kept her = humming=20 along at about 85, stopping for gas around every 150 or so.  I made = the=20 full 550 to Lawrence in one day, leaving at noon and getting into = Lawrence=20 around 9:30 pm.    My return was Monday, and I took 70 = east to 55=20 north up to 355. Spent the night in Bloomington before wrapping = up Tuesday=20 morning.  Not crazy about 55; road needs lotso work.  Anyway = that's my=20 longest ride ever, er....yet!
 
Couple = of=20 observations.  First of all, no tunes, yet I wasn't bored out of my = mind.  It wasn't all that missed.  It's kind of like skiing in = that=20 your mind is happily occupied.  Now don't get me wrong, I want to = add some=20 sounds sooner or later, but this wasn't bad.  It was a pleasant=20 surprise.
 
Secondly, the bike=20 handles well at speed with few exceptions. On the way back strong North = Easterly=20 gusts kept my speed down to 65. Might be me, but the bike didn't seem to = like a=20 crosswind from 2 o'clock.  9 or 3 o'clock posed less = challenges. =20
 
Thirdly, the=20 wrists.... only part that really got sore.  Well, maybe the = shoulders a=20 little also.  I now see why some of the other listers have explored = different grips and bars.... I'll have to check the archives for the = last round=20 of discussions.
 
Lastly, the=20 Clearview +3 was great.  I don't know how I would have handled the = wind=20 noise and blast.  It was great.  Still not sure about the = Saeng=20 edging.  I was going to try to take it off for one way and see if = noticed a=20 big difference.  Forgot!  Only drawback was rain on the visor = not=20 being whisked away like with the stock shield.  Hmmm wonder if you = could=20 retro fit an electric Beemer shield... : )
 
All in = all=20 the trip was great!  Despite a holiday weekend, bearly any=20 Smokeys.  Avoided all the rain.  Missed the numerous = deer, that=20 others apparently didn't, throughout Iowa and Missoura.  Waved my = left hand=20 silly in southern Illinois Monday as what appeared to be thousands of = bikes=20 headed back? to St. Louis.  Got a taste of the road and I'm eager = to for=20 another.  Now all I need is the winning lotto tix to get this silly = job=20 habit out of the way....
 
Ride=20 Safe!!
 
  ~ @  \
~  _|=3D>/
~ (_)\(_)
Michael Prapuolenis
'94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic
Wheaton, Illinois

 

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:48:41 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:48:44 -0500 Steve, Sounds like a great crowd! Hey, since the No-Coast ride was going to be over some of these same roads, why don't we just fold the two together? I think it'll work out better that way. Let me know if you need some help. And I have an appointment with my buzzard counselor on Monday. --Ralph ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 List" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 > An update: > > Here is the list of possible participants as of Thursday > evening, June 1: > > David Sigsbee - Memphis, TN > Doug Alexander - Paducah, KY > Bernie Kohler - Overland Park, KS > Chuck Chiodini - Heber Springs, AR > Don and Deb Fruehling - Ft. Worth, TX > Bill Drake - Bolingbrook, IL > Mark Gilb - Arnold, MO > Jim Smith - Springfield, MO > Ralph Couey - Columbia, MO > Ed and Sharon Appler - Conway, AR > Steve Wilson and wife - Ruston, LA > David Sharum - Ft. Smith, AR > Steve DeLorey - St. Louis area, MO > Bob Ronecker - St. Louis, MO > Christopher Russell-Wood - Silver Spring, MD > Jim Terrill - Tulsa, OK > Steve Ewens - Lee's Summit, MO > > Won't it be terrific if most of us are actually able to > make it? (I know I sound like a perky little > cheerleader, but, darn it, I AM excited!) > > As I mentioned earlier, I will be out of town from > Friday, June 2, through Sunday, June 4. I have heard > from several of you with answers to my long list of > questions. If you have not yet replied and wish to, you > still have time to make your preferences known. I will > do my best to have those preferences sorted out and date > and route information settled by Sunday or early in the > week. > > See you soon in Arkansas! > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > 89 PC800 > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 21:33:31 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: Vivian West-Prapuolenis CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Memorial Weekend Michael: I've had the Saeng edging on for a few weeks now. It's taken me about that long to conclude that it does reduce wind and noise noticeably, but it certainly doesn't eliminate it. I've got mine on the taller Honda windshield. Overall I give it a moderate recommendation. I'd be interested to hear how big of a difference you notice if you do take it off. Thanks for the trip report! Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster Vivian West-Prapuolenis wrote: > Hey gang,I had my first long ride this past holiday weekend. I rode > from just outside Chicago (Wheaton) to Lawrence Kansas. I took 88/80 > West to 35 and then headed south to KC onto 70 into Lawrence. Ol' > Black Magic handled great. I kept her humming along at about 85, > stopping for gas around every 150 or so. I made the full 550 to > Lawrence in one day, leaving at noon and getting into Lawrence around > 9:30 pm. My return was Monday, and I took 70 east to 55 north up to > 355. Spent the night in Bloomington before wrapping up Tuesday > morning. Not crazy about 55; road needs lotso work. Anyway that's my > longest ride ever, er....yet!Couple of observations. First of all, no > tunes, yet I wasn't bored out of my mind. It wasn't all that missed. > It's kind of like skiing in that your mind is happily occupied. Now > don't get me wrong, I want to add some sounds sooner or later, but > this wasn't bad. It was a pleasant surprise.Secondly, the bike > handles well at speed with few exceptions. On the way back strong > North Easterly gusts kept my speed down to 65. Might be me, but the > bike didn't seem to like a crosswind from 2 o'clock. 9 or 3 o'clock > posed less challenges. Thirdly, the wrists.... only part that really > got sore. Well, maybe the shoulders a little also. I now see why > some of the other listers have explored different grips and bars.... > I'll have to check the archives for the last round of > discussions.Lastly, the Clearview +3 was great. I don't know how I > would have handled the wind noise and blast. It was great. Still not > sure about the Saeng edging. I was going to try to take it off for > one way and see if noticed a big difference. Forgot! Only drawback > was rain on the visor not being whisked away like with the stock > shield. Hmmm wonder if you could retro fit an electric Beemer > shield... : )All in all the trip was great! Despite a holiday > weekend, bearly any Smokeys. Avoided all the rain. Missed the > numerous deer, that others apparently didn't, throughout Iowa and > Missoura. Waved my left hand silly in southern Illinois Monday as > what appeared to be thousands of bikes headed back? to St. Louis. Got > a taste of the road and I'm eager to for another. Now all I need is > the winning lotto tix to get this silly job habit out of the > way....Ride Safe!! > > ~ @ \ > ~ _|=>/ > ~ (_)\(_) > > Michael Prapuolenis > '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic > Wheaton, Illinois > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66702U35000L35000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 23:52:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "LDRIDER" , Subject: PC800: Problem with N100's face shield? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 23:53:19 -0500 I have had one person ask if I had any trouble with the face shield not wanting to stay closed on the Nolan N100. I haven't had any trouble and except for this one person, I hadn't heard of a problem. Last weekend, I switched shields and since then I have not been able to keep the shield closed without locking it. I took a look at it tonight and the clips that hold the shield on were upside down. The little lever that said "To Open" is supposed to have the arrow pointing up, NOT DOWN. Makes a world of difference. I hope the person that had the problem reads this. I don't remember who it was. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fred Lamoureux" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:06:01 -0400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Fred Lamoureux" Black IS the only correct PC Color!!! Demand only black...."Never give up!!!!Never Surrender!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Christoffer Carstanjen" To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net > "Arrest-me" red is the only way to go - unless you > have it repainted blue - then who knows what will > happen!! Black is not a color - rather it is all the > colors of the spectrum that have been absorbed. Save > yourself and fight for your rights!!! Man the > lifeboats... > > cmc > > ama member > aclu member > > ! But I > > won't say anything but > > kudos about your taste in wanting black! >> > > Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact > > that the red (and off-red) > > models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, > > even makes the person buy > > bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let > > this happen to you! Get > > yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for > > it. > > > > Russ Vernon > > 95 PC800 > > -- > > ===== > Christoffer Carstanjen - > 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar > ------------------------------------------------------- > --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. > Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:13:51 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary Smith" To: "Christopher Russell-Wood" , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:37:28 -0400 Does 6 DC PC's include me? Gary Smith Rockville MD bike #13 on the maintanence database -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Adams" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The Hoot, an update Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:13:52 EDT Mark, I'll be staying thru Saturday. I live in western New Jersey, but I'll probably be starting off from Levitown, PA. on Monday 6/19. Bob >From: "Mark Gilb" >To: "Bob Adams" >Subject: Re: PC800: The Hoot, an update >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 23:25:31 -0500 >MHotMailBAFF30E70103D8219796CEB9C8A005BF0; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:26:18 +1700 >[206.148.233.193])by newmail.wowzer.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id >AAA09900for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:26:14 -0400 >(EDT)(envelope-from markieg@wowzer.com) >From markieg@wowzer.com Wed May 31 21:28:37 2000 > >Bob, > No problem. I will add you to the list. Can I assume that you will be >there for the full event? Also, if you don't object, could I have you >origination point in case someone (or multiple someones) would like to hook >up for the ride? > >Mark Gilb >Arnold Mo. >95 PC800 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Adams" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:24 PM >Subject: Re: PC800: The Hoot, an update > > > > > > Mark, > > I will be staying at the main hotel, and will try to make the > > saturday lunch (nothing else planned). I would appreciate info on any >others > > attending, thanks! > > > > Bob Adams > > PC800 'The Wanderer' > > > > "...My course is as elusive as a shadow across the sky" > > > > > > >From: "Mark Gilb" > > >To: "PC800 List" > > >Subject: PC800: The Hoot, an update > > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:39:34 -0500 > > >MHotMailBAFDD48E0031D82197A281078001CC2C0; Tue May 30 20:39:59 2000 > > >karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAB01294;Tue, 30 May >2000 > > >22:39:56 -0500 (CDT) >22:03:07)); > > >Tue, 30 May 2000 22:39:14 -0500 (CDT) > > >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02252for ; Tue, 30 May > > >2000 22:39:05 -0500 (CDT) > > >[206.148.237.49])by newmail.wowzer.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id > > >XAA84863for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 23:39:20 -0400 > > >(EDT)(envelope-from markieg@wowzer.com) > > > > > >Thanks to everyone that has taken the time and trouble to email their >Hoot > > >plans. To keep list traffic down, I responded to each of you privately. >We > > >have five confirmed plus Selden and Arvid for a Noon Saturday lunch at >the > > >Pisgah Inn. That looks like the place to be on Saturday. > > > > > >The Asheville Chamber of Commerce has a fine site at - > > >http://www.ashevillechamber.org/cvb_top.htm > > > > > >Among the listings are places to stay, visit and eat. They also offer >an > > >excellent free Visitor's Guide. Mine arrived within 5 days so there is > > >still > > >time to get one. Filled with suggestions on enriching the Asheville >Metro > > >area during your stay ;-) > > > > > >I am compiling the list as an EXCEL 97 file right now for my >convenience > > >and > > >will mail the first copies out to those on the list Friday evening so >you > > >can get a jump on planning things. I will also convert it to HTML and >post > > >it somewhere (yet to be determined) so that the rest of the list can >see > > >what is going on. Because of past problems with attachments, I have no > > >plans > > >to post directly to the list. > > > > > >Questions, comments, suggestions? > > > > > >Mark Gilb > > >Arnold, Mo. > > >95 PC800 (almost) > > > > > >-- > > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: 89 Being delivered tomorrow Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:57:23 -0700 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J Serlo >Hey nagging works on me just did it in reverse. >My biggest fear is payback. Tell me about it. When I purchase something for the PC or computer, my wife starts scanning the jewelry adds. Sometimes it gets pretty expensive between the two of us. Although lately she has been pretty quiet while I have been equipping the PC for my planned around the USA 4-Corner trip this Sept. Maybe she is just saving up..... Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 2 Jun 00 07:04:49 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: vivian.fingerprint@att.net Subject: Re: [PC800: Memorial Weekend] CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Mike, Glad to read that your trip went well! Take care, Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD "Vivian West-Prapuolenis" wrote: Hey gang, I had my first long ride this past holiday weekend. I rode from just outside Chicago (Wheaton) to Lawrence Kansas. I took 88/80 West to 35 and= then headed south to KC onto 70 into Lawrence. Ol' Black Magic handled great. I kept her humming along at about 85, stopping for gas around eve= ry 150 or so. I made the full 550 to Lawrence in one day, leaving at noon a= nd getting into Lawrence around 9:30 pm. My return was Monday, and I took= 70 east to 55 north up to 355. Spent the night in Bloomington before wrappin= g up Tuesday morning. Not crazy about 55; road needs lotso work. Anyway that= 's my longest ride ever, er....yet! Couple of observations. First of all, no tunes, yet I wasn't bored out o= f my mind. It wasn't all that missed. It's kind of like skiing in that yo= ur mind is happily occupied. Now don't get me wrong, I want to add some sou= nds sooner or later, but this wasn't bad. It was a pleasant surprise. Secondly, the bike handles well at speed with few exceptions. On the way back strong North Easterly gusts kept my speed down to 65. Might be me, b= ut the bike didn't seem to like a crosswind from 2 o'clock. 9 or 3 o'clock = posed less challenges. Thirdly, the wrists.... only part that really got sore. Well, maybe the shoulders a little also. I now see why some of the other listers have explored different grips and bars.... I'll have to check the archives for= the last round of discussions. Lastly, the Clearview +3 was great. I don't know how I would have handle= d the wind noise and blast. It was great. Still not sure about the Saeng edging. I was going to try to take it off for one way and see if noticed= a big difference. Forgot! Only drawback was rain on the visor not being whisked away like with the stock shield. Hmmm wonder if you could retro = fit an electric Beemer shield... : ) All in all the trip was great! Despite a holiday weekend, bearly any Smokeys. Avoided all the rain. Missed the numerous deer, that others apparently didn't, throughout Iowa and Missoura. Waved my left hand sill= y in southern Illinois Monday as what appeared to be thousands of bikes hea= ded back? to St. Louis. Got a taste of the road and I'm eager to for another= =2E Now all I need is the winning lotto tix to get this silly job habit out o= f the way.... Ride Safe!! ~ @ \ ~ _|=3D>/ ~ (_)\(_) Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:35:52 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "Gary Smith" Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary Smith" >Does 6 DC PC's include me? >Gary Smith >Rockville MD >bike #13 on the maintanence database Now it does! We lost Rocky Rocklin to the dark side (he and his wife bought a Valkyrie) but his bike is still local. Here's the list I have: Bob and Grace luvadot@sprynet.com Chris Russell-Wood 1997 PC800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD sail2xs@netscape.net Tom Fraser Thfwsf@aol.com Manassas, VA 96 PC800 "Red Rover" Earl Laue EarlLaue@aol.com 89 ICE 16k Dallas (soon Maryland) Gary Smith Rockville MD biker-9@msn.com Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA chris@norloff.com Janet Spencer Dallas Thomason best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:05:47 +0000 To: "Ralph Couey" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:05:46 +0000 Hey, Ralph, can you perhaps bring me up to speed on the No Coast ride with a synopsis? I would be pleased to have a ready-made way to jumpstart the planning. This is taking on dimensions way beyond what I expected, with folks perhaps coming from MUCH farther away than I thought. We should certainly put on a good show for their trouble. Not to mention getting more out of the experience ourselves! ;-) BTW, you aren't fooling anyone with talk about "an appointment with my buzzard counselor on Monday"! Everyone knows buzzard counselors don't work on Mondays, as they are too gorged from all the weekend roadkill. Maybe we need to form a Ralph Couey PC800 Buzzardophobia Support Group, and schedule an intervention for you during the Northern Arkansas Ride? We feel your pain! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > Steve, > Sounds like a great crowd! Hey, since the No-Coast ride was going to be > over some of these same roads, why don't we just fold the two together? I > think it'll work out better that way. Let me know if you need some help. > > And I have an appointment with my buzzard counselor on Monday. > > --Ralph > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "PC800 List" > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:26 PM > Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 > > > > An update: > > > > Here is the list of possible participants as of Thursday > > evening, June 1: > > > > David Sigsbee - Memphis, TN > > Doug Alexander - Paducah, KY > > Bernie Kohler - Overland Park, KS > > Chuck Chiodini - Heber Springs, AR > > Don and Deb Fruehling - Ft. Worth, TX > > Bill Drake - Bolingbrook, IL > > Mark Gilb - Arnold, MO > > Jim Smith - Springfield, MO > > Ralph Couey - Columbia, MO > > Ed and Sharon Appler - Conway, AR > > Steve Wilson and wife - Ruston, LA > > David Sharum - Ft. Smith, AR > > Steve DeLorey - St. Louis area, MO > > Bob Ronecker - St. Louis, MO > > Christopher Russell-Wood - Silver Spring, MD > > Jim Terrill - Tulsa, OK > > Steve Ewens - Lee's Summit, MO > > > > Won't it be terrific if most of us are actually able to > > make it? (I know I sound like a perky little > > cheerleader, but, darn it, I AM excited!) > > > > As I mentioned earlier, I will be out of town from > > Friday, June 2, through Sunday, June 4. I have heard > > from several of you with answers to my long list of > > questions. If you have not yet replied and wish to, you > > still have time to make your preferences known. I will > > do my best to have those preferences sorted out and date > > and route information settled by Sunday or early in the > > week. > > > > See you soon in Arkansas! > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > 89 PC800 > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with ESMTP (WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:19:07 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:14:18 -0500 "Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net" (Jun 1, 8:32pm) To: RVPC800@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact that the red (and off-red) > models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, even makes the person buy > bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let this happen to you! Get > yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for it. > > Russ Vernon > 95 PC800 Soften my mind? According to my offspring, my mind has already been softened so badly that it's probably located somewhere around my waist by now. They should know. They're the prime cause, not red tupperware. Another good reason to wear a helmet? The only part of my anatomy my RED PC800 is softening is my butt. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:27:36 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:27:35 +0000 Youse guys are so sad, with your incessant bickering about trivial cosmetic issues! We all know that in all significant ways but one, PC's are identical. EXCEPT for the '89! Keep an '89 going for awhile, and you get an education in electrical engineering AND economics (or at least personal financial management)! ;>) (To all you other '89 owners out there, my apologies, and no slam intended. I love my '89, even with its little stator quirks, etc.!) -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > > Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact that the red (and off-red) > > models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, even makes the person buy > > bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let this happen to you! Get > > yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for it. > > > > Russ Vernon > > 95 PC800 > > Soften my mind? According to my offspring, my mind has already been softened > so badly that it's probably located somewhere around my waist by now. They > should know. They're the prime cause, not red tupperware. Another good reason > to wear a helmet? > > The only part of my anatomy my RED PC800 is softening is my butt. > > Revill Dunn > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:49:02 PDT Add: Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com Springfield VA 1996 No-name PC 24k miles >From: "Chris Norloff" >To: , "Gary Smith" >Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:35:52 -0400 > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Gary Smith" > > >Does 6 DC PC's include me? > >Gary Smith > >Rockville MD > >bike #13 on the maintanence database > > >Now it does! > >We lost Rocky Rocklin to the dark side (he and his wife bought a Valkyrie) >but his bike is still local. > >Here's the list I have: > >Bob and Grace >luvadot@sprynet.com > >Chris Russell-Wood >1997 PC800 "Footloose" >Silver Spring, MD >sail2xs@netscape.net > >Tom Fraser >Thfwsf@aol.com >Manassas, VA >96 PC800 "Red Rover" > >Earl Laue >EarlLaue@aol.com >89 ICE 16k >Dallas (soon Maryland) > >Gary Smith >Rockville MD >biker-9@msn.com > >Chris Norloff >Falls Church, VA >chris@norloff.com > >Janet Spencer > >Dallas Thomason > > >best, > >-- >Chris Norloff, Virginia > '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 > '90 Honda Pacific Coast > '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar >-- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:57:51 PDT >Black IS the only correct PC Color!!! Demand only black...."Never give >up!!!!Never Surrender!!!!!! If red is referred to as "Ticket me red", black must be, "Oh crap, I never even saw him black." Black also compliments most colors of riding apparal with the possible exception of pink. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 11:15:05 -0500 To: "PC800 List" From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Cc: rfenwick@core.com A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a trunk lid on order. I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me that, I have caller ID...) For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the overall fade on my PC is minimal... I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my insurance company on this... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:40:20 -0300 To: "R. Fenwick" , "PC800 List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Cc: rfenwick@core.com I just replaced a bunch of plastic on my '96 in the fall. It has been out in the sun for a couple of years, the match is FINE. The red (official Honda colour: "Come Fuck Me Red") hadn't faded at all. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts To: "R. Fenwick" , PC800 List Cc: rfenwick@core.com --0-1681692777-959964098=:7010 Hi Rich- I was sorry to hear about the customizing the dealer performed on your bike. What a drag! I've seen a couple of "faded" '90s. The color gets lighter and "thinner" looking (less candy apple red) and the undercoat, a silver color becomes more prominant. I'm no expert, but it seems to me because of the depth of the paint, the entire lid would have to be stripped and the finish resprayed from the basecoat on up. Matching at that point is going to depend on the appropriate colors being used & the skill of the painter. Certainly doable, but time consuming and no guarentee of sucess (the first time...) If you end up going that way, take lots of good pictures, silicon and silver (electronic & film) based... Good Luck! Tom Boles SF Bay "R. Fenwick" wrote: A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a trunk lid on order. I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me that, I have caller ID...) For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the overall fade on my PC is minimal... I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my insurance company on this... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! --0-1681692777-959964098=:7010

Hi Rich-

I was sorry to hear about the customizing the dealer performed on your bike. What a drag!

I've seen a couple of "faded" '90s. The color gets lighter and "thinner" looking (less candy apple red) and the undercoat, a silver color becomes more prominant. I'm no expert, but it seems to me because of the depth of the paint, the entire lid would have to be stripped and the finish resprayed from the basecoat on up. Matching at that point is going to depend on the appropriate colors being used & the skill of the painter. Certainly doable, but time consuming and no guarentee of sucess (the first time...)

If you end up going that way, take lots of good pictures, silicon and silver (electronic & film) based...

Good Luck!

Tom Boles

SF Bay


"R. Fenwick" wrote:


A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of
my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a
trunk lid on order.

I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid,
for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to
repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would
take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a
painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim
someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me
that, I have caller ID...)

For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body
parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored
outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the
overall fade on my PC is minimal...

I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer
than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new
lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my
insurance company on this...

Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800
Illinois
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Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! --0-1681692777-959964098=:7010-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: PC800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:33:41 -0700 Rich: DON'T LET THEM DO IT!! They are just trying to welch on you. Call American Honda if you have to. Honda will back you up if you are persistent. The type of paint the subcontractor would use would certainly not be the same composition. It will fade at a different rate than the original, so even if it matches initially (doubtfull) it will look different within a year. Keep up the fight. Jeff Krause 95 PC A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a trunk lid on order. I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me that, I have caller ID...) For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the overall fade on my PC is minimal... I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my insurance company on this... Rich Fenwick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: fenwick@nn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rfenwick@core.com Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:57:34 PDT What ya have here is a dealer who really does NOT want to be out several hundred dollars! I bet he was perfectly happy to replace until he found out how much it'd cost when he called to order the part. >I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer >than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new >lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my >insurance company on this... > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800 >Illinois ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:09:52 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sandy Sansing" >...I'm looking for a Pacific Coast, any year but'89, any color (preferably >black or pearl white). Okay, gang, I'll take full responsibility for the last unintended color thread! Please accept my abject apologies--but I didn't really think that it would go there again. Now...let's just help Sandy find a bike! I looked in the latest HSTA Star last night, but the one I was thinking of was a '98 for $6500. Sandy, how far are you willing to travel to pick one up? That usually helps narrow the search down for you. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Harvey Sattin To: "R. Fenwick" , PC800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts CC: rfenwick@core.com Rich, Sounds to me like it's time for that custom paint job. Seriously, pick a different color entirely and have the whole bike painted. Silver's cool... ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:17:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: 89 Being delivered tomorrow To: jcats_us@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Congrats! on your purchase. I love my 89', quirk's and all! don't forget to name your PC. Where about is your location? The list can help you find other lister's/owner's in your area. Give us a update after your first ride!! Todd Skar 89'PC 12k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:16:49 -0500 To: "PC800 List" From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Cost for lid / Wait time to get one? Cc: rfenwick@core.com Does anyone who has bought one know what the lid costs? (any year) I'd like a number to be able to document as an approximate cost to replace, plus how long did it take to get it? The "note taking" regarding this incident has begun.... (I know there has to be at least a few that know what the lid costs...) Now that I re-read the paperwork from them, all that they promised to do in writing was to "Repair Trunk Lid No Cost". I missed the word "Repair" as opposed to "Replace", replace being what they verbally promised. This now appears NOT to be a mistake in stating the term "Repair" in writing. Now, realizing this, I am even more disgusted... I have no confidence in anyone being able to match the paint on it and make it look right. I called them back about 2 hours ago, requesting that they simply do what they told me they would, which was to replace the trunk lid, and that they need to get one on order. They claimed they would. I've heard that before... At this point, if they come back and tell me that all they intend to do is what they put into writing, to repair the lid, then I will take the repair money, file a claim with my insurance company for a new lid, and use the repair money to cover my deductible. It goes without saying, that I will be following up with them first thing on Monday morning, to see if they have ordered the lid yet. If not, I will have my lawyer sending them a letter. I sure hate to resort to my lawyer, but sometimes that is what it takes... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois At 11:15 AM 06/02/2000 -0500, R. Fenwick wrote: >A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of >my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a >trunk lid on order. > >I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, >for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to >repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would >take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a >painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim >someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me >that, I have caller ID...) > >For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body >parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored >outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the >overall fade on my PC is minimal... > >I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer >than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new >lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my >insurance company on this... > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800 >Illinois >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. is what they put into writing, to repair the lid, then I will take the repair money, file a claim with my insurance company for a new lid, and use the repair money to cover my deductible.

It goes without saying, that I will be following up with them first thing on Monday morning, to see if they have ordered the lid yet.  If not, I will have my lawyer sending them a letter.  I sure hate to resort to my lawyer, but sometimes that is what it takes...

Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800
Illinois





At 11:15 AM 06/02/2000 -0500, R. Fenwick wrote:
>A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of
>my trunk free of charge.  They told me that they would immediately get a
>trunk lid on order.
>
>I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid,
>for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade".  They prefer now to
>repair and repaint the old lid to match.  When asked how long that would
>take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a
>painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while".  They claim
>someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me
>that, I have caller ID...)
>
>For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body
>parts for the PC, how well do they match?  My PC has never been stored
>outside, it has always been garaged when not in use.  I would believe the
>overall fade on my PC is minimal...
>
>I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer
>than getting a new lid.  Of course, they are balking on buying me a new
>lid.  I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my
>insurance company on this...
>
>Rich Fenwick
>1990 PC800
>Illinois
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>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu.
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:43:57 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Cost for lid / Wait time to get one? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:43:54 +0200 > From: R. Fenwick[SMTP:fenwick@nn.com] > This now appears NOT to be a mistake in stating the term "Repair" in > writing. Now, realizing this, I am even more disgusted... ..to replace the trunk lid, and that they need to get one on order. They claimed they would. I've heard that before... > I sure hate to resort to my lawyer, but sometimes that is what it takes... > Rich Fenwick > Easy Rich, breath in.. breath out... breath in...... breath out......... breath in.......... breath out..... slowly...very good Rich... now by yourself... go on... yes, very good... did you take your medicine already ? Emile ; ) ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:14:34 -0300 To: "R. Fenwick" , "PC800 List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Cost for lid / Wait time to get one? Cc: rfenwick@core.com Rich: Local dealer was 530$Cdn, figure about 425$US. But, Milpitas Honda http://www.hondamil.com/ will give you a quote (and ship) quick. -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:17:30 -0300 To: "R. Fenwick" , "PC800 List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Cost for lid / Wait time to get one? Cc: rfenwick@core.com Wups I meant: Local dealer was 530$Cdn, figure about 325$US. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800 List" , "R. Fenwick" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:18:40 -0400 Red is the worse color for fading. Now that I've said that, there is no way I would let them paint my trunk. You will have a better match with a stock Honda part then anything they can mix up. The non Honda paint will fade at a different rate then the stock paint so as time goes by, the more noticible the difference will be, With the Honda part the closer it will match with age. Another factor is, the 1990 is clear coated, and I doubt if you dealer was going to have that done too. I figure that they saw they were going to have to eat a $500 part so they figered that $88 at Earl Shive was a better deal. For them! If they don't want to do the right thing, I'd call Honda and raise Hell! Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick To: PC800 List Cc: rfenwick@core.com Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts >A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of >my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a >trunk lid on order. > >I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, >for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to >repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would >take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a >painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim >someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me >that, I have caller ID...) > >For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body >parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored >outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the >overall fade on my PC is minimal... > >I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer >than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new >lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my >insurance company on this... > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800 >Illinois >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: victoria sheets Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 To: Steve Wilson , PC800 List Hi list.....Charles and i have two new grandbabies and haven't been keeping up with our mail as we should...is there a proposed date for the North Arkansas ride? We would love to join in...we love riding tha area.....please let us know and add our name to the list of interesteds Vicky Sheets __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI Problem Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:27:52 -0500 Emile, I suppose I enjoy US fat jokes as much as the next guy, so you can imagine how pleasantly I was surprised by finding not only one but two such fat jokes in one reply. Unfortunately, my wife is very petite thus possessing no "natural cushion" to speak of. I was using the hinges as a means of establishing a common frame of reference when discussing the rigidity of the GIVI trunk in question. The hinged side, or the side facing forward when the case is attached to the rack, seems very pliable when riding in ~100 deg F weather we regularly have here in the state of Oklahoma. I simply wondered if the case would tend to buckle on the hinged side under the constant weight of a passenger on an extended ride. As you have just installed your Maxia I suspect you haven't had sufficient time to log the miles, or kilometers, necessary to speak authoritatively on the rigidity of the case. As it doesn't seem anybody else had comments on the GIVI, either positive or negative, I will assume the only way to find out is to try. Brad Nicholson Oklahoma City, OK 98 PC800 (16,000 miles) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK To: PC800 Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI Problem > > From: Brad and Kendra Nicholson[SMTP:CodyBear@brightok.net] > > The flexibility of the hinged side of the Maxia is a consistent problem > > with > > only one support string when opened in the Oklahoma wind. It also makes > > me > > question the ability of the case to reliably support a passenger's weight, > > particularly on rough roads. > > Anybody with similar experience to share? Brad Nicholson Oklahoma City, OK > > > I don't see what the hinges have to do with supporting a leaning passenger. > I just have the Maxia installed on my ST including backrest (pics online > tonight... my tonight... your afternoon) and my Maxia has not had any > problems supporting the passengers. Then again, they haven't been of > an average US passenger weight... ; ) > > The experience of the two passengers that have tested the backrest > for me is that they only use it when on smooth roads. Any bumps > when leaning against the backrest are experienced as very unpleasant > since the backrest is at that time pounding their spline. So I don't > think you will have a problem on rough roads except when the > passenger either enjoys pain or has some sort of natural cushion > (bodyfat) to soften the back blows... > > www.piloot.com Emile > www.st1100.net '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site... > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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(tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: "Ride to Work Day" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:03:13 -0400 To all Mark you calendar for Wednesday, July 19, 2000 for the 9th annual = nationwide "Ride to work day". Ref: Andy Goldfine, AeroStich, = 218-722-1927 for stickers, T-shirts, etc... _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD 2000 for the=20 9th annual nationwide "Ride to work day".   Ref: Andy = Goldfine,=20 AeroStich, 218-722-1927 for stickers, T-shirts, etc...
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Dem tupperware panels Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:12:09 -0400 Hi Listers, I have an 89 white PC800, and while it looks like new two niggling problems are bothering me. 1, just inside the base of the windshield is that Plastic scoop (grey colored) It is part of the dashboard I guess. But it screws in separetly. Mine seems warped and it creaks and groans and I think some others had this problem earlier. but I forgot how they solved it. I guess they had to buy that thin plastic replacement. How much$$ 2. On the tupperware. The panel that fits just under the seat on my right thigh area. It's the piece that the Trunk lid butts up against when the lid is closed. It forms a vertical 3 inch seam there. Well after riding a bit I find the front panel has popped outside of the trunk lid. Every time I ride. It looks like it all has good tabs and fit together well, but when I ride it will tweak it out of the slot. Ideas??? Hey that's it for any probs in 31k mi and still have never had a carb sync or any probs with the stator. Randy Ashurst in GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:44:13 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:44:18 -0500 > Hey, Ralph, can you perhaps bring me up to speed on the > No Coast ride with a synopsis? I would be pleased to > have a ready-made way to jumpstart the planning. > I initially mentioned the No Coast ride as a humorous alternative to the previously announced East Coast Ride and, I think, a Northwest Coast ride. The response was very positive, so I decided to try to do the Winelander as a sort of warmup. Essentially, what I had envisioned was a weekend thing, with folks gathering Friday night, a group dinner featuring copious amounts of adult malt cereal beverages, a ride Saturday morning, another one Saturday afternoon, and an optional one Sunday morning for those who had the time to stay, with the event officially finishing at noon on Sunday. I had three routes planned, two of which looped through the northern 75 miles or so of Arkansas. That sounds real close to the concept for this Northern Arkansas ride. Either way, it looks to be very popular and an absolute gas! > BTW, you aren't fooling anyone with talk about "an > appointment with my buzzard counselor on Monday"! > Everyone knows buzzard counselors don't work on Mondays, > as they are too gorged from all the weekend roadkill. > Maybe we need to form a Ralph Couey PC800 Buzzardophobia > Support Group, and schedule an intervention for you > during the Northern Arkansas Ride? We feel your pain! My counselor works on flattened rate, so he's always available. And if you feel my pain, then we're going to the right state...;-) --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) 2 Jun 2000 17:21:28 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:18:14 -0700 From: "Thomas E. Humphrey II" Subject: RE: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts To: MTW , PC800 List , "R. Fenwick" Cc: rfenwick@core.com Importance: Normal You know, I had the dealer refinish 4 or 5 panels of a '94 used PC in Sacramento about 4 years ago. The owner had scuffed and scratched them down to bare plastic, and I had two weeks to burn, so they removed the panels (including trunk) and had a local painter re-surface & paint them, also with the clear coat, and they looked beautiful! You couldn't tell them from original. Alas, a jay-walking (jumping) deer destroyed that cycle two years later, but I had NO REGRETS about having them re-finished. FWIW Tom in Clayton Ca, with a replacement '94 PC -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of MTW Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:19 PM To: PC800 List; R. Fenwick Cc: rfenwick@core.com Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Red is the worse color for fading. Now that I've said that, there is no way I would let them paint my trunk. You will have a better match with a stock Honda part then anything they can mix up. The non Honda paint will fade at a different rate then the stock paint so as time goes by, the more noticible the difference will be, With the Honda part the closer it will match with age. Another factor is, the 1990 is clear coated, and I doubt if you dealer was going to have that done too. I figure that they saw they were going to have to eat a $500 part so they figered that $88 at Earl Shive was a better deal. For them! If they don't want to do the right thing, I'd call Honda and raise Hell! Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick To: PC800 List Cc: rfenwick@core.com Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts >A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of >my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a >trunk lid on order. > >I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, >for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to >repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would >take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a >painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim >someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me >that, I have caller ID...) > >For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body >parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored >outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the >overall fade on my PC is minimal... > >I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer >than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new >lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my >insurance company on this... > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800 >Illinois >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:42:36 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Cc: Subject: RE: PC800: Memorial Weekend Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:45:08 -0500 Importance: Normal Just took the Saeng edging off. Took a short spin and am inclined to think that I like it better without. I'll know for sure when I bring it up to speed on the expressway tomorrow. BTW the long hours with an open throttle this weekend seemed to have altered my "chirp". It is much less noticeable and is less pronounced at lower speeds. Of course it may simply be that my hearing has deteriorated that much more... Whaaaat? Mp -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Joel Kopp [mailto:thekoppfamily@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:34 PM To: Vivian West-Prapuolenis Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Memorial Weekend Michael: I've had the Saeng edging on for a few weeks now. It's taken me about that long to conclude that it does reduce wind and noise noticeably, but it certainly doesn't eliminate it. I've got mine on the taller Honda windshield. Overall I give it a moderate recommendation. I'd be interested to hear how big of a difference you notice if you do take it off. Thanks for the trip report! Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster Vivian West-Prapuolenis wrote: > Hey gang,I had my first long ride this past holiday weekend. I rode > from just outside Chicago (Wheaton) to Lawrence Kansas. I took 88/80 > West to 35 and then headed south to KC onto 70 into Lawrence. Ol' > Black Magic handled great. I kept her humming along at about 85, > stopping for gas around every 150 or so. I made the full 550 to > Lawrence in one day, leaving at noon and getting into Lawrence around > 9:30 pm. My return was Monday, and I took 70 east to 55 north up to > 355. Spent the night in Bloomington before wrapping up Tuesday > morning. Not crazy about 55; road needs lotso work. Anyway that's my > longest ride ever, er....yet!Couple of observations. First of all, no > tunes, yet I wasn't bored out of my mind. It wasn't all that missed. > It's kind of like skiing in that your mind is happily occupied. Now > don't get me wrong, I want to add some sounds sooner or later, but > this wasn't bad. It was a pleasant surprise.Secondly, the bike > handles well at speed with few exceptions. On the way back strong > North Easterly gusts kept my speed down to 65. Might be me, but the > bike didn't seem to like a crosswind from 2 o'clock. 9 or 3 o'clock > posed less challenges. Thirdly, the wrists.... only part that really > got sore. Well, maybe the shoulders a little also. I now see why > some of the other listers have explored different grips and bars.... > I'll have to check the archives for the last round of > discussions.Lastly, the Clearview +3 was great. I don't know how I > would have handled the wind noise and blast. It was great. Still not > sure about the Saeng edging. I was going to try to take it off for > one way and see if noticed a big difference. Forgot! Only drawback > was rain on the visor not being whisked away like with the stock > shield. Hmmm wonder if you could retro fit an electric Beemer > shield... : )All in all the trip was great! Despite a holiday > weekend, bearly any Smokeys. Avoided all the rain. Missed the > numerous deer, that others apparently didn't, throughout Iowa and > Missoura. Waved my left hand silly in southern Illinois Monday as > what appeared to be thousands of bikes headed back? to St. Louis. Got > a taste of the road and I'm eager to for another. Now all I need is > the winning lotto tix to get this silly job habit out of the > way....Ride Safe!! > > ~ @ \ > ~ _|=>/ > ~ (_)\(_) > > Michael Prapuolenis > '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic > Wheaton, Illinois > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@canoemail.com id 390DEC9A00096EE9; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:50:52 -0700 X-Version: canoe 6.2.2329.0 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:54:28 -0400 To: ashurst@thebest.net, Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Dem tupperware panels This was my reply to a fellow rider last month in regards to the scoop rattling, hope this helps:::: I too had this problem a for the longest time...everytime I reved up the engine it sounded like all the "tupperware" was about to fall off. After I tore apart my dash to install my fancy little flashing red light,I started to check all the parts as I put them on to see how much "play " was in them. I found the rattle!..the air scoop in the front behind the windshield was no longer fitting the way it should of been (shrinking with age??)It was loose in the top end of the scoop but with some upward pressure it got snug with the dash cover and would no longer vibrate. Check it to see if its loose. I ended up installing a little piece of metal under the air scoop to give a upward push to close the gap. If you take this apart you will see a "V" shaped metel that holds the top of your headlight.I mounted the metal on that.Its one of those things that you must see to understand.....I hope!! :) Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,Canada Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,Canada * * * * * * * Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:46:21 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roy Cummings" To: "Pacific Coast Net" Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:46:17 -0400 Add: Roy Cummings royeric@erols.com Arlington, VA 1998 PC800 > Doug Allis > DHAllis@hotmail.com > Springfield VA > 1996 No-name PC 24k miles > > > >From: "Chris Norloff" > >To: , "Gary Smith" > >Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs > >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:35:52 -0400 > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >From: "Gary Smith" > > > > >Does 6 DC PC's include me? > > >Gary Smith > > >Rockville MD > > >bike #13 on the maintanence database > > > > > >Now it does! > > > >We lost Rocky Rocklin to the dark side (he and his wife bought a Valkyrie) > >but his bike is still local. > > > >Here's the list I have: > > > >Bob and Grace > >luvadot@sprynet.com > > > >Chris Russell-Wood > >1997 PC800 "Footloose" > >Silver Spring, MD > >sail2xs@netscape.net > > > >Tom Fraser > >Thfwsf@aol.com > >Manassas, VA > >96 PC800 "Red Rover" > > > >Earl Laue > >EarlLaue@aol.com > >89 ICE 16k > >Dallas (soon Maryland) > > > >Gary Smith > >Rockville MD > >biker-9@msn.com > > > >Chris Norloff > >Falls Church, VA > >chris@norloff.com > > > >Janet Spencer > > > >Dallas Thomason > > > > > >best, > > > >-- > >Chris Norloff, Virginia > > '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 > > '90 Honda Pacific Coast > > '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > >-- > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:53:20 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: "R. Fenwick" CC: PC800 List , rfenwick@core.com Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Rich: Mine's black, so don't know if this applies, but the replaced trunk lid on mine matched beautifully. I suspect the dealer is trying to avoid paying for his own mistake. Don't let him do it. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster "R. Fenwick" wrote: > A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left side of > my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would immediately get a > trunk lid on order. > > I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, > for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to > repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked how long that would > take, they made no promises, as they would be subletting the job to a > painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it takes him a while". They claim > someone tried to call me about this earlier in the week.... (Don't tell me > that, I have caller ID...) > > For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body > parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored > outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the > overall fade on my PC is minimal... > > I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take longer > than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying me a new > lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a claim with my > insurance company on this... > > Rich Fenwick > 1990 PC800 > Illinois > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:25:22 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Back on list Hi folks. I'm back on the list until Tuesday night, and then I leave for Americade Wednesday morning. Looking forward to meeting up with you all there.... Ride safe. fsl :-) -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800 List" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:11:04 -0700 The 90 PC that Bob purchased out of Oregon had red paint that was faded, most noticeable on top of the tank & tail piece. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick >I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk lid, >for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They prefer now to > >For those of you (especially 1990 owners) who have ordered replacement body >parts for the PC, how well do they match? My PC has never been stored >outside, it has always been garaged when not in use. I would believe the >overall fade on my PC is minimal... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:36:37 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net and DC ride? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated Thu, 1 Jun 2000 8:34:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RVPC800@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 6/1/00 2:29:19 PM Mountain Standard Time, timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: << All right, I'll do it. Sandy, you have created what is known as a conundrum. You want Pearl White, but don't want an '89. The only Pearl White year WAS '89! But I won't say anything but kudos about your taste in wanting black! >> Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact that the red (and off-red) models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, even makes the person buy bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let this happen to you! Get yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for it. Russ Vernon 95 PC800>> I'm currently taking a vacation between jobs and couldn't resist responding to this email.... White reflects to much sun Black absorbs to much sun So the Reds are just right! It seems like there is lot of interest in a DC area ride. There have been many good ideas put forth. I would like to see if anyone is up for a ride on the weekend of June 17/18. Since I'm fairly new to the area, I'm open to any suggestions! Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '96 PC800 "Red Rover" -- Just right in color 19,200 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:54:39 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Cost for lid / Wait time to get one? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated Fri, 2 Jun 2000 3:18:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) writes: << Wups I meant: Local dealer was 530$Cdn, figure about 325$US.>> That's a great price. I'm curious to what Miliptas would cost. I was quoted about 425 from a local dealer. Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '96 PC800 "Red Rover" 19,200 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:07:59 EDT Subject: RE: PC800: Memorial Weekend To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated Fri, 2 Jun 2000 9:43:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Michael S. Prapuolenis" writes: << BTW the long hours with an open throttle this weekend seemed to have altered my "chirp". It is much less noticeable and is less pronounced at lower speeds. Of course it may simply be that my hearing has deteriorated that much more... Whaaaat?>> No, it's not that your hearing has deteriorated, you just managed to blow most of the rare and endangered PC800 Muffler Birds out of the exhuast. Wait till the Humane Society finds out. Tom Fraser -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Yes!! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Yes, it is I, Captain Tupperware with my side-kick Burp Boy! Off to do battle against the evil, (but sexy)RubberMaid. Moving faster than a wet slip-n-slide, more powerful than a locomotive (in HO scale), able to ride off into the sunset on a PC800... First stop - WalMart! Palace of Plastics - Something is not right in the world and I, the Captain need to find out... Stay tuned to this station for the further adventures of Captain Tupperware!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:54:15 EDT Subject: PC800: Oil change To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Does anyone know the true amount of oil, the PC800 needs after change the Filter (Honda) and oil ??? Thanks in Advance, Hope to see you all at the Americade, Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 41K Givi E-460 Corbin Clearview Plus -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: I have changed my name to protect the innocent To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers, It is I, Christoffer Carstanjen. I am changing my subscription to another account for mine was filling up too fast. Yahoo only lets you have 3+ megs. You can use either address. I think the biggest problem for new users with the list serv is that you need to add END to make the list serv ignore the automatic endings the mailservers slap on the botton. and.. When authenicating - you need to strip off the extra stuff that could be added by your email server, such as your name and address. So, tell 'em the Captain sent you... :-) See you at Americade Christoffer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:22:42 -0500 From: Keith Wood To: "PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Tall Shield 4 sale Hey gang, Anyone looking for a Honda Tall Shield? Got 1 for sale. Will box and ship. Good condition. Keith Lombard, IL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:03:22 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roy Cummings" To: "Pacific Coast Net" Subject: PC800: Bike Cover Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:03:21 -0400 Hi All, Sometimes I like to park outside (faster getaway!) and am, therefore = seeking recommendations on motorcycle covers. I have the passenger = backrest and a Clearview +3. TIA Best wishes, Roy Cummings '98 PC covers. =20 I have the passenger backrest and a Clearview +3. =20 TIA
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:02:52 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Subject: PC800: tires----please help! Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:17:21 -0500 I just finished washing and detailing my PC. I bought it in Dec. The dealer installed new tires. While cleaning my wheels, I discovered that I have a Dunlop 555 in front made in Japan and a 177 in the rear, made in the USA. This seems like a problem. The bike seems to ride fine but I am concerned. Any opinions? Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PC Listserve" Subject: PC800: Pearl Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:41:21 -0700 The reason Honda made the PC in Pearl White for only one year is the fact that after making such a Gem they weren't able to to come up with a classier color. So they had to fall back on to a color they have ordered way to much of and won't be able to run out of for the next 75 to 100 years, Red. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:21:16 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Cover To: royeric@erols.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) royeric@erols.com writes: >Hi All, > >Sometimes I like to park outside (faster getaway!) and am, therefore seeking >recommendations on motorcycle covers. I have the passenger backrest and a >Clearview +3. TIA > >Best wishes, > >Roy Cummings >'98 PC I've used the DOWCO Protector PX-100 (full dress) for the past two summers, just starting on the third, and it covers all that you mention plus the Givi E46 and my CB antenna. I leave mine outdoors all riding season with the cover on when I'm not on the road (a rare occurrence but it happens). The grey color is much better at keeping it cool than black. The items you have will allow the cover to come all the way down on the front and cover the disc brake, all the way down on the rear to partially cover the back of the rear tire. It has an air vent to prevent condensation and a soft padded windshield protector inside the front. For traveling I bought a Tour King half cover made for the PC800. The DOWCO takes up too much room on a trip. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:24:13 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Pearl To: strode@pioneer-net.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) strode@pioneer-net.com writes: >The reason Honda made the PC in Pearl White for only one year is the fact >that after making such a Gem they weren't able to to come up with a classier >color. So they had to fall back on to a color they have ordered way to much >of and won't be able to run out of for the next 75 to 100 years, Red. > I heard the color engineer at Honda came down with a sudden case of color blindness, but not want to admit it and lose his job, he approved the '89 thinking it was really red:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:44:05 -0500 From: Tony Miller To: jeff wessel CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tires----please help! Jeff: I was trying to think of some jokes to make, but I can't think of any good ones right now. . . Bottom line is, that if the bike rides fine, I would say you are o.k. If it does anything quirky, I would replace one of them with the same type. Tony jeff wessel wrote: > > I just finished washing and detailing my PC. I bought it in Dec. The dealer > installed new tires. While cleaning my wheels, I discovered that I have a > Dunlop 555 in front made in Japan and a 177 in the rear, made in the USA. > This seems like a problem. The bike seems to ride fine but I am concerned. > Any opinions? > Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:51:05 -0400 Subject: PC800: Americade Riders Fill the Roads To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) After getting a little yard work out of the way this morning I took off for a well deserved ride and dinner out. There was an endless stream of all sorts of motorcycles (didn't catch sight of any PC800's though) headed east toward Lake George, NY. Seneca Falls is on US 20 so a lot of them take it as an alternative to the NYS Thruway (I-90). I should have stayed home though because now it makes it all the more difficult to work until Wednesday afternoon while I await my turn on the roadway to Americade. I, however, will be on the NYS Thruway to avoid US 20. I hope everyone had time to take to the road today too. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVLPZ901.5BQ for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 18:16:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: "PC Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Pearl Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 18:13:41 -0500 But they followed it up with another "one year" color - Candy Glory Red. The supposed "75-100 years" supply of red must have ran out quickly... They also had to differentiate between the first year model that had the "problems" and all the rest... Rich Fenwick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John & Rhoda Strode To: PC Listserve Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: PC800: Pearl > The reason Honda made the PC in Pearl White for only one year is the fact > that after making such a Gem they weren't able to to come up with a classier > color. So they had to fall back on to a color they have ordered way to much > of and won't be able to run out of for the next 75 to 100 years, Red. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 3 Jun 00 19:58:22 EDT From: Christopher Russell-Wood To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Subject: PC800: Re: Oil change CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jim, After changing the oil and filter, my PC takes about 3.4 quarts of oil. = According to the 89-90, 94-98 Honda service manual: Engine oil capacity at draining: 3.20 qt at disassembly: 3.70 qt at oil filter change: 3.41 qt Hope this helps! Chris Russell-Wood '97 PC 800 "Footloose" Silver Spring, MD KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know the true amount of oil, the PC800 needs after change the= = Filter (Honda) and oil ??? Thanks in Advance, Hope to see you all at the Americade, Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 41K Givi E-460 Corbin Clearview Plus = ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:44:10 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Americade Hello fellow riders! I've been off list for a couple of weeks. How many people are going to be at Americade? I hear from Tim that we may be as many as 11 meeting for supper? I'm really looking forward to meeting up with the other riders. If anyone knows someone who is heading from Americade to the Mid-West, please pass on my email address. I am going to Chicago directly from Americade. I intend to leave Lake George very early Sunday morning, and will try to get almost all the way there if possible. Ride safe. fsl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:39:46 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom.freed" To: "'Pacific Coast Net'" Subject: RE: PC800: DC PCs Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:36:37 -0400 Importance: Normal Hey, Add 1 more! Tom Freed Columbia MD tom.freed@home.com -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Roy Cummings Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:46 AM To: Pacific Coast Net Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs Add: Roy Cummings royeric@erols.com Arlington, VA 1998 PC800 > Doug Allis > DHAllis@hotmail.com > Springfield VA > 1996 No-name PC 24k miles > > > >From: "Chris Norloff" > >To: , "Gary Smith" > >Subject: Re: PC800: DC PCs > >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:35:52 -0400 > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >From: "Gary Smith" > > > > >Does 6 DC PC's include me? > > >Gary Smith > > >Rockville MD > > >bike #13 on the maintanence database > > > > > >Now it does! > > > >We lost Rocky Rocklin to the dark side (he and his wife bought a Valkyrie) > >but his bike is still local. > > > >Here's the list I have: > > > >Bob and Grace > >luvadot@sprynet.com > > > >Chris Russell-Wood > >1997 PC800 "Footloose" > >Silver Spring, MD > >sail2xs@netscape.net > > > >Tom Fraser > >Thfwsf@aol.com > >Manassas, VA > >96 PC800 "Red Rover" > > > >Earl Laue > >EarlLaue@aol.com > >89 ICE 16k > >Dallas (soon Maryland) > > > >Gary Smith > >Rockville MD > >biker-9@msn.com > > > >Chris Norloff > >Falls Church, VA > >chris@norloff.com > > > >Janet Spencer > > > >Dallas Thomason > > > > > >best, > > > >-- > >Chris Norloff, Virginia > > '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 > > '90 Honda Pacific Coast > > '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > >-- > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:53:28 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: tires----please help! jeff wessel wrote: > > I just finished washing and detailing my PC. I bought it in Dec. The dealer > installed new tires. While cleaning my wheels, I discovered that I have a > Dunlop 555 in front made in Japan and a 177 in the rear, made in the USA. > This seems like a problem. The bike seems to ride fine but I am concerned. > Any opinions? > Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) > I think you should be okay Jeff. With a 555 in Front and a 177 in the Rear, you are up to a 732. That's only 148 away from a top quality Metzeler..... :-) fsl -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tires----please help! Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:25:04 PDT >From: "jeff wessel" > >Dunlop 555 in front made in Japan and a 177 in the rear, >Any opinions? Jeff, I have the same setup on my 95, didn't have the tires changed at the same time. I have noticed no ill effects on handling or tracking. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sun, 4 Jun 2000 04:15:50 +0000 To: "Ralph Couey" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:15:49 +0000 Ralph, "Flattened rate"? Gag me with a dead armadillo! Any chance you could send me info on the 3 routes you had in mind for the No-Coast ride? Should be helpful. Thanks. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > > > > Hey, Ralph, can you perhaps bring me up to speed on the > > No Coast ride with a synopsis? I would be pleased to > > have a ready-made way to jumpstart the planning. > > > I initially mentioned the No Coast ride as a humorous alternative to the > previously announced East Coast Ride and, I think, a Northwest Coast ride. > The response was very positive, so I decided to try to do the Winelander as > a sort of warmup. Essentially, what I had envisioned was a weekend thing, > with folks gathering Friday night, a group dinner featuring copious amounts > of adult malt cereal beverages, a ride Saturday morning, another one > Saturday afternoon, and an optional one Sunday morning for those who had the > time to stay, with the event officially finishing at noon on Sunday. I had > three routes planned, two of which looped through the northern 75 miles or > so of Arkansas. That sounds real close to the concept for this Northern > Arkansas ride. Either way, it looks to be very popular and an absolute gas! > > > > BTW, you aren't fooling anyone with talk about "an > > appointment with my buzzard counselor on Monday"! > > Everyone knows buzzard counselors don't work on Mondays, > > as they are too gorged from all the weekend roadkill. > > Maybe we need to form a Ralph Couey PC800 Buzzardophobia > > Support Group, and schedule an intervention for you > > during the Northern Arkansas Ride? We feel your pain! > > My counselor works on flattened rate, so he's always available. And if you > feel my pain, then we're going to the right state...;-) > > --Ralph > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@canoemail.com id 390DEC9A000A4364; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 21:39:54 -0700 X-Version: canoe 6.2.2329.0 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:42:51 -0400 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Americade Riders Fill the Roads I hope everyone had time to take to the road today too. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" Hey there,,I was able to get out today (200kms) and it was a great day for a ride..didnt see any other PC's as Im the only one in the area (York Region)that I know of. I think we need more PC's here in Canada! Anyway, bought the better half a First Gear Kilimanjaro as she was in dire straits of a proper jacket. Looked at the Joe Rocket that was there but she found it not to fit as nice as the First Gear. After 10mins of riding with the new jacket she was very pleased. I phoned around for prices and the place closest to me had the best price. $319CAN plus our lovely Canadian taxes(%15).I called a popular place in Calgary,Alberta and they told me at the price the dealer was making only a $40-50 profit on the product and that they wouldnt even try on matching the price . I'm planning on getting the First Gear Kenya in a couple of weeks. The price is $239. Anyone have had any experience on these 2 styles? Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,Canada * * * * * * * Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:02:46 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:02:48 -0500 > Ralph, > > "Flattened rate"? Gag me with a dead armadillo! > > Any chance you could send me info on the 3 routes you had > in mind for the No-Coast ride? Should be helpful. > Thanks. Steve, Don't knock flat armadillos until you've tried them. Sorta like chicken. Route 1: Leaving from Ozark, Missouri (US65 and Missouri 14) go east to US63, then south to West Plains. From West Plains, take US160 west to US65, then north to Ozark. Route 2: From Ozark, take US65 south to Clinton, AR. Then take State route 16 to state route 27 to Russelville. Take State route 7 to Lead Hill, Route 14 to US65, then north back to Ozark. Route 3: From Ozark, take Missouri 14 west to US160 Take 160 south to State route 24 to Cassville. Take route 37 south to the state line. Take US62 east to route 23 south. Then take route 16 east to route 21 north. At Berryville, take route 221 north back into Missouri, where the road becomes route 39. Go to route 76 east, then 160 north back to Ozark. These are pretty long rides and of course starting from Northern Arkansas changes things just a bit, but there you are. Hope this helps in your planning. Just about all of these routes are marked as "scenic" according to AAA. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 07:52:31 -0400 From: Debi Ratliff To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800:Americade Riders Fill the Roads Greg, I got the Kilimanjaro jacket and pants for Christmas and have found them to be superb. I went down in some gravel during a road trip over Memorial Day weekend and found that I had not a scratch due to the padding and fabric. I have been experimenting with the vents and have been able to wear the jacket on 80 degree days. The pants don't have vents but I have thought about working with the zippers to create some air flow. There are velcro fasteners at the bottom so that you could possibly unzip some up from the bottom and some down from the top. Also, some folks have told me to wear shorts under them in really warm weather although some have gotten chaffed by the armor in the knees. During thunderstorms and heavy rain I have stayed completely dry and warm (I ride a lot in cold weather). My partner wears an Aerostitch one piece and although his suit breaths better and is a little more suited for hot weather, I like mine because of it's warmth in cold weather. I have never owned the Kenya, but can vouch for the quality of First Gear. Debi Ratliff 89 PC800 Goshen, Virginia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Francois Saint Laurent cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:30:18 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Americade I'll be attending Americade - my third consecutive (I'm a relative newbie). Unfortunately, I have conflicts for the 2 scheduled PC get-togethers. But I hope to see a lot of PC'ers during the week. I'll be heading up Tuesday, staying until Saturday. I'll be staying at Roaring Brook. I drive a 98'PC, my riding buddie a '95 VFR, both bright red, of course. Ride safe, Joel Barlow Belle Mead, NJ '98 Pacific Coast - "Serendipity" HRCA: #465660 AMA: #319133 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: Pacific Coast List Posting Yesterday was the running of the Motorcycle Ride for Musculary Dystrophy and I didn't go this year. When I did three years ago, I was the lone "stich" garbed on a red P.C. Rider in a pack of loud Hogs. Felt like a fish out of water. But, I did go down and watch the parade leave the Harley shop, it took about 3/4 of an hour for all the bikes to leave the lot. 99% were Harleys, a smattering of Gold Wings, old and new and a few BMW's, including one of the new LT bikes. I did see an older guy on a 96 PC dressed in a baseball cap and full black leathers. I think I ran into him three years ago under a gasoline station canopy as we took refuge from the rain. It was fun to see all the bikes do, but wished I saw a bit more diversity in the field! But, this is Wisconsin, home of the Hog. How about next year, Todd Skarr, owner of Posiden? Paul in Wisconsin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id AF69344B0148; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 12:18:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike & Gail Boushon" To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" Subject: RE: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 12:13:27 -0500 Importance: Normal Paul, I'm mostly a lurker on this net, but can't resist responding to your observation that there was not much diversity in the bikes on the GB MDA ride this year. My first reaction is that your PC would have contributed some diversity this year and maybe even started something for the future. I know you said you were the "lone stitch" a few years ago and "felt like a fish out of water", but, did you have fun anyway, or not? If you did, what difference did the fact that you rode a PC make? Didn't it really make it even more fun to be the odd one? If you didn't have fun, why not? Did you go out of your way to talk to the "other side", or did you assume they were all like you stereotype them as, loud, rude and unwilling to talk to you? Perhaps you thought they stereotyped you as aloof, snobbish and unwilling to talk to them. Either way the common thread is the incorrect stereotype and assumption the other side is unwilling to talk. Somebody has to go first. My wife and I have personally found it is easier to find new people to talk to when we are the odd one at a ride, rather than just another one in the pack. We have met a lot of new friends riding non-HD motorcycles at HD rides and even some new HD riding friends at non-HD rides where they sometimes felt like a fish out of water. I currently live in Beaver Dam, WI and usually ride with the Sauk Prairie HOG Chapter from Sauk City, Wisconsin. I invite you to come on down and go on a ride with us sometime regardless of what you ride. You can even stay at my home overnight so we can leave early the next day for the 1 hour ride to Sauk City. If you like big rides, the Sauk Freedom Ride for MDA is July 15, with free camping, music, a poker run and other activities Fri - Sunday. The Saturday ride usually has around 2,000 bikes and nets around $100,000 over the weekend. And yes there are usually quite a few non HD bikes, even though the sponsor is an HD club. I'll just have to decide if I ride my HD Electra Glide or my PC, Hmmmmmm....???? -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Atkins Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 10:14 AM To: Pacific Coast List Posting Subject: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Yesterday was the running of the Motorcycle Ride for Musculary Dystrophy and I didn't go this year. When I did three years ago, I was the lone "stich" garbed on a red P.C. Rider in a pack of loud Hogs. Felt like a fish out of water. But, I did go down and watch the parade leave the Harley shop, it took about 3/4 of an hour for all the bikes to leave the lot. 99% were Harleys, a smattering of Gold Wings, old and new and a few BMW's, including one of the new LT bikes. I did see an older guy on a 96 PC dressed in a baseball cap and full black leathers. I think I ran into him three years ago under a gasoline station canopy as we took refuge from the rain. It was fun to see all the bikes do, but wished I saw a bit more diversity in the field! But, this is Wisconsin, home of the Hog. How about next year, Todd Skarr, owner of Posiden? Paul in Wisconsin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:24:01 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Mike & Gail Boushon" , "Pacific Coast List Posting" Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:23:51 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike & Gail Boushon" To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Green Bay MD Run > Paul, I'm mostly a lurker on this net, but can't resist responding to your > observation that there was not much diversity in the bikes on the GB MDA > ride this year. My first reaction is that your PC would have contributed > some diversity this year and maybe even started something for the future. > When the local chapter of Freedom of Road Riders held their annual toy run, they asked me to be the Santa. So I did. On my PC. Leading a pack of Harleys. Felt goooooooooooood! Harley owners do turn out en masse for events like this because they all feel part of a larger group. PC owners, by the nature of our mounts, have perforce been lone wolves in gatherings. But be proud and know that you didn't give in to the pack mentality to the extent that your self esteem is dependent on your cycle's marque. Pacific Coast and Proud of It Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: RE: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: Mike & Gail Boushon , Pacific Coast List Posting Hi Mike, thanks for your note, actually I did have a good time on that ride. It was the first time I had ridden like that and it was a hoot! The route took us past a golf course where my wife was playing, and she could pick me up a quarter mile away due to my "red, white and blue ensemble" I did know some people at the ride that year and I think I'll see if I can get some friends to ride with me next year. My comments about lack of diversity had more to do with wanting to see different style bikes... Thanks, for the invite to come visit! I've pondered a drive down to Madison the next time I have go for my work... Paul --- Mike & Gail Boushon wrote: > Paul, I'm mostly a lurker on this net, but can't > resist responding to your > observation that there was not much diversity in the > bikes on the GB MDA > ride this year. My first reaction is that your PC > would have contributed > some diversity this year and maybe even started > something for the future. > > I know you said you were the "lone stitch" a few > years ago and "felt like a > fish out of water", but, did you have fun anyway, or > not? If you did, what > difference did the fact that you rode a PC make? > Didn't it really make it > even more fun to be the odd one? > > If you didn't have fun, why not? Did you go out of > your way to talk to the > "other side", or did you assume they were all like > you stereotype them as, > loud, rude and unwilling to talk to you? Perhaps > you thought they > stereotyped you as aloof, snobbish and unwilling to > talk to them. Either > way the common thread is the incorrect stereotype > and assumption the other > side is unwilling to talk. Somebody has to go > first. > > My wife and I have personally found it is easier to > find new people to talk > to when we are the odd one at a ride, rather than > just another one in the > pack. We have met a lot of new friends riding > non-HD motorcycles at HD > rides and even some new HD riding friends at non-HD > rides where they > sometimes felt like a fish out of water. > > I currently live in Beaver Dam, WI and usually ride > with the Sauk Prairie > HOG Chapter from Sauk City, Wisconsin. I invite you > to come on down and go > on a ride with us sometime regardless of what you > ride. You can even stay > at my home overnight so we can leave early the next > day for the 1 hour ride > to Sauk City. If you like big rides, the Sauk > Freedom Ride for MDA is July > 15, with free camping, music, a poker run and other > activities Fri - Sunday. > The Saturday ride usually has around 2,000 bikes and > nets around $100,000 > over the weekend. And yes there are usually quite a > few non HD bikes, even > though the sponsor is an HD club. I'll just have to > decide if I ride my HD > Electra Glide or my PC, Hmmmmmm....???? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu > [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Paul Atkins > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 10:14 AM > To: Pacific Coast List Posting > Subject: PC800: Green Bay MD Run > > > Yesterday was the running of the Motorcycle Ride for > Musculary Dystrophy and I didn't go this year. When > I > did three years ago, I was the lone "stich" garbed > on > a red P.C. Rider in a pack of loud Hogs. Felt like a > fish out of water. > But, I did go down and watch the parade leave the > Harley shop, it took about 3/4 of an hour for all > the > bikes to leave the lot. 99% were Harleys, a > smattering > of Gold Wings, old and new and a few BMW's, > including > one of the new LT bikes. I did see an older guy on a > 96 PC dressed in a baseball cap and full black > leathers. I think I ran into him three years ago > under > a gasoline station canopy as we took refuge from the > rain. > It was fun to see all the bikes do, but wished I saw > a > bit more diversity in the field! But, this is > Wisconsin, home of the Hog. > How about next year, Todd Skarr, owner of Posiden? > Paul in Wisconsin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 18:07:17 -0400 Subject: PC800: Fwd: PC800 Wanted To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-FC-Forwarded-From: dedwards@2access.net From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I just received this message from a potential PC800 buyer so I thought I'd pass it along to see if anyone can help. He saw my "ad" for our Americade Gathering on www.lets-ride.com and thought it would be a good place to ask. I'm not sure if he intends to show up at Americade or not. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" Message follows... ------------------------- I am looking for a Pacific Coast. As you probably know I am having some difficulty finding one. Please send information (exact location) on get together that you have scheduled. Hopefully someone will have one available. Thank You, Don Stevens Bellefontaine, Ohio dedwards@2access.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: Sloppy clutch Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:23:00 -0400 Near the end of my Rolling Thunder ride last Sunday, start and stop = every 20 feet, for about 1 hour, I noticed that the clutch had to be = nearly completely released before contact was being made. Is there an = adjustment for the clutch. Dallas _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD last=20 Sunday, start and stop every 20 feet, for about 1 hour, I noticed that = the=20 clutch had to be nearly completely released before contact was being = made. =20 Is there an adjustment for the clutch.
 
Dallas
 
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Dallas Thomason
1989, = PC800=20 "Perky Pearl"
Silver Spring, MD
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Sloppy clutch - Answer Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:31:42 -0400 Sorry for the question, found the answer: 89 Owners Manual, Page 20. Clutch This motorcycle has a hydraulically actuated clutch. There are no = adjustments to perform but the clutch system must be inspected = periodically for fluid level and leakage. If the control level freeplay = becomes excessive and the motorcycle creeps or stalls when shifted into = gear, or if the clutch slips, causing acceleration to lag behind engine = speed, there is probably air in the clutch system and it must be bled = out. See your authorized Honda dealer for this service. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dallas Thomason=20 To: PC800-List=20 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: PC800: Sloppy clutch Near the end of my Rolling Thunder ride last Sunday, start and stop = every 20 feet, for about 1 hour, I noticed that the clutch had to be = nearly completely released before contact was being made. Is there an = adjustment for the clutch. Dallas _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD ride last=20 Sunday, start and stop every 20 feet, for about 1 hour, I noticed that = the=20 clutch had to be nearly completely released before contact was being=20 made.  Is there an adjustment for the clutch.
 
Dallas
 
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Dallas Thomason
1989, = PC800=20 "Perky Pearl"
Silver Spring, = MD
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) From: J Serlo Subject: PC800: First 27 miles To: PC 800 List Not only the first 27 on the PC the first on any bike!! (except parking lot at the MSF class). Bike performed well if it was a horse probable would have kicked me off a few time for down shifting when I did. Took turns really well like it was on rails. Highway was uncomfortable I'm not sure because it was the first time or windy day. I'll try again to be sure. Next weekend doing service oil ck air filter and plugs. Hard to get the plastic off by reading the owners manual. I guess one of those things if you see someone else do it, it makes sense. If anyone know of better manuals please let me know. Oil recommendations would be great also. Thanks all. I live in Bethlehem, PA Bike has no name yet (Wife laughed at lightning) Bike is 89 with 27K and I am the proud owner/friend My plate is interesting APC 42 just ramdom pick Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 18:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Americade To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Francois Saint Laurent Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Joel (and honorable listers), I think earlier Francois hinted we could use his hosts booth as a place to leave messages. It would be the Sport Touring Accessories booth. http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ Please stop by and check out the cool items for sale. I'll bring a pad of paper/pen on string and leave it at the booth. Just scribble your message/plans/phone numbers in there. I will be up Monday - Saturday am. eek! I need to pack, leaving in less than 10 hours! Never packed a cycle before - I know - pack it and then take 1/2 of it out - you're not going to need it... ride sane, Christoffer '98(Nebby) --- "Joel F. Barlow" wrote: > > > I'll be attending Americade - my third consecutive > (I'm a relative newbie). > > Unfortunately, I have conflicts for the 2 scheduled > PC get-togethers. > But I hope to see a lot of PC'ers during the week. > > I'll be heading up Tuesday, staying until Saturday. > I'll be staying at Roaring > Brook. > I drive a 98'PC, my riding buddie a '95 VFR, both > bright red, of course. > > Ride safe, > > Joel Barlow > Belle Mead, NJ > '98 Pacific Coast - "Serendipity" > > HRCA: #465660 > AMA: #319133 > > > -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 21:27:38 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Americade At 6:06 PM -0700 6/4/00, Christoffer Carstanjen wrote: >Joel (and honorable listers), > >I think earlier Francois hinted we could use his hosts >booth as a place to leave messages. It would be the >Sport Touring Accessories booth. >http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ I'll be there from Wednesday afternoon and will be there until Saturday at closing. I will probably sneak out a few times to go for a ride in the Lake George area, but if you want to know if I am at or near the booth, look for my PC800. It will probably be parked at the booth. It will be easy to spot. Look for the Ontario license plate, the 4 foot black Wilson Antenna, and the Canada flag sticker next to the license plate. Ride safe. fsl :-) -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 21:14:40 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Cycle Oak Touring Pants Hi everyone, Was at a local shop this weekend looking for a pair or touring pants, and found a pair if Cycle Oak Pro GT pants with armor and suspenders. Was wondering if anyone on the list have heard of this brand as I could not find a web site for this brand/company. If so if you have a pair and what are your thoughts on them. Thanks in advance and ride safe Bill Drake '97 PC800 Bolingbrook, IL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: , "jeff wessel" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: tires----please help! Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:07:18 -0700 FWIW-- Scott Sargent, who once had a huge inventory of Suzuki GS models of all different sizes and styles regularly ran two different brands of tires on them. I have had several GSes and his handled better than any I had, and they always had a "matched" pair. So this tells me they ain't GOTTA be matched to be fine. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tony Miller" To: "jeff wessel" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:44 AM Subject: Re: PC800: tires----please help! > Jeff: > > I was trying to think of some jokes to make, but I can't think of any > good ones right now. . . > > Bottom line is, that if the bike rides fine, I would say you are o.k. > If it does anything quirky, I would replace one of them with the same > type. > > Tony > > jeff wessel wrote: > > > > I just finished washing and detailing my PC. I bought it in Dec. The dealer > > installed new tires. While cleaning my wheels, I discovered that I have a > > Dunlop 555 in front made in Japan and a 177 in the rear, made in the USA. > > This seems like a problem. The bike seems to ride fine but I am concerned. > > Any opinions? > > Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:26:43 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Quittin' Cold Turkey (maybe) Gruppe PC (especially our DC-area PC folks): Earlier I expressed my intent on this list to ship my PC back east so I could have it for my fellowship this summer (I'll be just south of Annapolis, MD). However, I now plan to avoid the cost and headache of that plan because I have managed to rent a room in a house just a few miles from where I will be working and shipping the bike there and back for that short of a commute seemed overkill (I'll have access to a Smithsonian vehicle for work-related travel). HOWEVER, the prospect of spending 12 weeks without my PC is truly unsavory. It's SUMMER, for pete's sake. To avoid quitting cold turkey for the summer, I'm trolling for bites on either of the following offers: 1. The long shot: if anyone in the DC area is, for some strange reason, not using their PC this summer, and would like to put it to good use, I'd LOVE to rent it for my 12-week stint. 2. The less long shot: If anyone or their brother has a decent motorcycle of any type that I can rent for that 12 weeks, I'd be interested in hearing about it. The goal here is to avoid motorcycle withdrawal pains and to have a cheap source of transportation for commuting or occasional jaunts into Annapolis. In either case, I would have my insurance cover me on the borrowed bike, and pay a fee commensurate with my low-income grad student status (<$500). Any takers? Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster P.S. anybody in the Pacific Northwest interested in renting my mount for the summer? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:27:49 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Quittin' Cold Turkey (maybe) Gruppe PC (especially our DC-area PC folks): Earlier I expressed my intent on this list to ship my PC back east so I could have it for my fellowship this summer (I'll be just south of Annapolis, MD). However, I now plan to avoid the cost and headache of that plan because I have managed to rent a room in a house just a few miles from where I will be working and shipping the bike there and back for that short of a commute seemed overkill (I'll have access to a Smithsonian vehicle for work-related travel). HOWEVER, the prospect of spending 12 weeks without my PC is truly unsavory. It's SUMMER, for pete's sake. To avoid quitting cold turkey for the summer, I'm trolling for bites on either of the following offers: 1. The long shot: if anyone in the DC area is, for some strange reason, not using their PC this summer, and would like to put it to good use, I'd LOVE to rent it for my 12-week stint. 2. The less long shot: If anyone or their brother has a decent motorcycle of any type that I can rent for that 12 weeks, I'd be interested in hearing about it. The goal here is to avoid motorcycle withdrawal pains and to have a cheap source of transportation for commuting or occasional jaunts into Annapolis. In either case, I would have my insurance cover me on the borrowed bike, and pay a fee commensurate with my low-income grad student status (<$500). Any takers? Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster P.S. anybody in the Pacific Northwest interested in renting my mount for the summer? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: fenwick@nn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Color match on replacement body parts Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 04:48:25 PDT Hi Rich, Sorry to hear about that, that won't happen to me as I always wrench my bikes and I always advise other PCers to remove the relevant panels before bringing the bike for services. >A week ago today, my Honda dealer installed a gouge down the left >side of >my trunk free of charge. They told me that they would >immediately get a >trunk lid on order. Anyway, they did not order the trunk lid as they promised because it is expensive. >I just got off the phone with them, and they did not order the trunk >lid, >for the fear that it will not match due to "sun fade". They >prefer now to >repair and repaint the old lid to match. When asked >how long that would >take, they made no promises, as they would be >subletting the job to a >painter, and "sometimes he gets busy and it >takes him a while". They >claim someone tried to call me about this >earlier in the week.... (Don't >tell me that, I have caller ID...) Lies lies lies lies. For the most hard to match PC stock color, the candy glory R101, I never got any problem on color match with new body parts to bike, especially you store the bike indoor like me. If I were you, I will work out with the dealer on the depreciation of the paint work and insist on a new lid, or simply file a claim to the insurance company. Besides, as your dealer will pay the paint guy, why he not bother to give you a call and book an appointment? I believe your dealer was lying. As for repainting, for other PC colors like magna red R201, Honda black NH1, or pacific white, repainting and matching is easy but that doesn't applied to Candy Glory R101. The color is so hard to match as the layer (thickness) of the semi-transparent top coat determine the depth of the color. Also my research shows that only ColorRite and PPG producing paints in Honda stock color R101. PPG is the OEM supplier for Honda Motorcycle but they no longer supplying R101 to retail, at least not available from PPG USA, PPG Canada, PPG Hong Kong, nor PPG China, I checked. That's is because I'm not happy with the quality of ColorRite. Their R101 color is very close to stock but the "deep" is inadequate. ICI HK technical support says that is because of a different coloring agent or pigment. You can check out the website of ColorRite at www.color-rite.com for more info. also the cost. You'll need the whole set of base color, top color paint and clear coat paint, also the special reducer and activator for the paints, the cost is about $150 so the paint guy won't charge your dealer cheap. If you go for repainting, beware they get you the arcrylic base paint instead of urethane base paints, the former one is cheaper but won't last long. After repainting, you also need the side "Pacific Coast" decal. Be prepare to compromise with the slightly difference in color. >I am afraid that the "repair and paint" job will be WORSE and take >longer >than getting a new lid. Of course, they are balking on buying >me a new >lid. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll have to file a >claim with my >insurance company on this... Exactly, go for a new lid. If you pay part of the cost as depreciation that will speed up the whole thing, rather than struggling and ended up with both sides unhappy. Don't know if a new lid includes decals but fairings do. Good luck and hope these help! - Philips ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: Subject: PC800: accessory question Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:39:27 -0700 Hi coasters-- I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this weekend's = ride, and came across a puzzling question: What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to = the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology = render another choice superior. Please advise. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" question:
 
What is the best air freshener to buy = for the=20 PC?
 
Pine has always been the standard; all = others seem=20 to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some = modern=20 technology render another choice superior.
 
Please advise.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con = Brio"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800rider@mediaone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Cycle Oak Touring Pants Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 06:07:47 PDT >From: William Drake > >Was at a local shop this weekend looking for a pair or touring pants, >and found a pair if Cycle Oak Pro GT pants with armor and suspenders. > >Was wondering if anyone on the list have heard of this brand as I could >not find a web site for this brand/company. Bill, You're in the same boat I was in with the Kerr Leather overpants I bought a couple months ago. I had heard of Kerr Leather but didn't know they made Cordura pants. The construction looked good, compared the material, fit and construction to much higher priced pants off the same rack and bought them for 129.00 and tax. I don't recall ever seeing that particular brand, Cycle Oak, in any of the big time catalogs. If the price is right, they're made right and fit you right I'd say go for it. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:17:23 -0400 To: "Grea Ned" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: accessory question Cc: At 7:39 PM -0700 6/4/00, Grea Ned wrote: >Hi coasters-- > >I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this >weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: > >What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? > >Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders >to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern >technology render another choice superior. > >Please advise. > Well Lee...uh..I mean "Great Ned"..I would have thought that in your part of the country you wouldn't need a 'Pine' scented air freshener...... aren't there enough Pine trees around? Go for a real manly air freshener. Get something like "Horrendous Harley", or "Obnoxious Oil", where the people behind you can smell the oil and then they will no longer think you are riding an electric scooter. Let us know the results... fsl -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. and came across a puzzling question:
 
What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC?
 
Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology render another choice superior.
 
Please advise.
 

Well Lee...uh..I mean "Great Ned"..I would have thought that in your part of the country you wouldn't need a 'Pine' scented air freshener...... aren't there enough Pine trees around?

Go for a real manly air freshener. Get something like "Horrendous Harley", or "Obnoxious Oil", where the people behind you can smell the oil and then they will no longer think you are riding an electric scooter.

Let us know the results...

fsl

--
Francois Saint Laurent               
Ottawa, Canada                           
1995 PC800
Waltzing Matilda  

***  Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate ***

1.

Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:11:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Harvey Sattin To: "Grea Ned" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: accessory question Lee, This is what happened to the most recent person to use the Pine-scented air freshener on his motorcycle: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/bos/news/stories/news-20000605-110907.html ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: June 5, 2000 2:39:27 AM GMT Subject: PC800: accessory question Hi coasters-- I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology render another choice superior. Please advise. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: Subject: PC800: Electrical Troubleshooting Tips Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:05:53 -0500 Fellow listers: While teaching an Experienced Rider Course this Saturday, we had a "big cruiser bike" drop out due to an inability to start. He had been riding the range exercises (very slow speeds) with all his lights on (quite a few "driving lights" were mounted) and in the middle of the session his bike wouldn't start. Pushing the start button produced only a loud clicking sound from the solenoid. He tried jump starting the bike from another bike and then a pick-up truck (I wouldn't recommend this!), with the same negative results. After the course, I went over to see if I could help. The owner was frustrated by this time and had already called his towing service. I whipped out my multi-meter and found his battery was producing 12.38 volts, plenty of juice for a start. Then I noticed his ground terminal connection had lots of corrosion on it. I disassembled the connection, scrubbed everything clean with a wire brush and upon reassembly, the bike fired right up! The use of jumper cables does not guarantee good voltage to the starter; only to the battery. The bike's electrical system still needs good POS and NEG connections to the battery. Morale of the story? For most electrical problems, the first three things to check are: 1) Charge state of the battery (measured with a volt meter don't use your headlight brightness as a gauge with "modern" bikes) 2) Battery connections are absolutely clean and tight (you have to take it apart to see the inside of the connection, that's where the problem will be) 3) The grounding system for the effected part Most of the PC electrical problems can be solved with these three steps and using them may save you hours of frustration. Happy wrenching! Chuck Chiodini in Heber Springs, Arkansas "89 PC800 "Scooter" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 10:15:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: accessory question To: greatned@quik.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Lee, I think the scent is less of a concern than the size and shape of the freshener. Let your nostrils do the walking down the freshener aisle and make the selection. You want to look for something that will hang conveniently inside your helmet without flapping in your face too much. I would not try to eliminate the face flap feature though because it helps control those nasty bugs that fly inside our helmet on the road. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" greatned@quik.com writes: >Hi coasters-- > >I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this weekend's ride, >and came >across a puzzling question: > >What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? > >Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to the >throne. But >perhaps your experience plus some modern technology render another choice >superior. > >Please advise. > >Lee Barker >95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.02) id A50910226; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:19:37 EST5EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1980 10:44:11 -0700 From: Debi Ratliff To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: accessory question Hah! someone asked me recently if my PC was a scooter! Funny. Debi Ratliff Goshen, VA 89 PC800 Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > At 7:39 PM -0700 6/4/00, Grea Ned wrote: > > Hi coasters-- > > > > I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before > this weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: > > > > What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? > > > > Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be > pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus > some modern technology render another choice superior. > > > > Please advise. > > > > Well Lee...uh..I mean "Great Ned"..I would have thought that in your > part of the country you wouldn't need a 'Pine' scented air > freshener...... aren't there enough Pine trees around? > > Go for a real manly air freshener. Get something like "Horrendous > Harley", or "Obnoxious Oil", where the people behind you can smell the > oil and then they will no longer think you are riding an electric > scooter. > > Let us know the results... > > fsl > > -- > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > 1995 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:09:43 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Debi Ratliff >Hah! someone asked me recently if my PC was a scooter! Funny. Won't be the last time you hear that, Debi! My typical comment is usually something like "Yup--a 100mph scooter--my groceries get home fast!" Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "Grea Ned" , Subject: Re: PC800: accessory question ;-) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:29:28 -0700 For years the riders in out dept. have displayed the Standard Pin Tree outline air freshened on their bikes (Left Handle Grip). I have=20 since found a Skull and Crossbones one that has a fine Citrus sent. I find to be a quite pleasing change and it balances more with=20 the California traffic in springtime. ;-) I must admit that I do change back to=20 the old pine favorite at times. But it's=20 just not as intimidating as the Citrus Skull. hanger. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Grea Ned To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:53 AM Subject: PC800: accessory question Hi coasters-- I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this = weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to = the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology = render another choice superior. Please advise. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" question:
 
What is the best air freshener to buy = for the=20 PC?
 
Pine has always been the standard; = all others=20 seem to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus = some=20 modern technology render another choice superior.
 
Please advise.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con=20 Brio"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:25:28 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:23:31 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail I explain my purchase of a PC800 this way. I always wanted a scooter, but had to suppress the urge to get one because of the inferior self image that ownership of one would give me. Thus my life was unfulfilled, because the closest I could come was to realizing my desire for a scooter was to own a motorcycle. But when Honda finally came out with a motorcycle that looked like a scooter, I could both appear to have my scooter and ride a motorcycle too. I feel much better now and don't need to take nearly as much medication. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:36:06 -0700 "Yup--a 100mph scooter--my groceries get home fast!" Make that a 107+mph scooter! At least time I checked. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Debi Ratliff > >>Hah! someone asked me recently if my PC was a scooter! Funny. > >Won't be the last time you hear that, Debi! My typical comment is usually >something like "Yup--a 100mph scooter--my groceries get home fast!" > >Tim "Scuffy" Macy >Newberg, OR > >Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) >STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) > >AMA #492485 >HRCA #239441 >HSTA #6030 >RCMC >STOC #1571 > >"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in >this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in >this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:44:39 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id LAA05515 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14169 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14165 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) /8.7.1) id LAA16938 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:44 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:44 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sighting X-WSS-ID: 1525077D59193-01-01 charset=us-ascii This Sunday, I had to go to Houston to deliver my son to his grandparents, and bring a piano back for my daughter. I took the pickup because the trombone rack I've ordered from Givi hasn't come in yet and I didn't want to carry a piano on the PC800 without a proper rack. On I10 a few miles east of Columbus and smack in the middle of the perpetual construction zone, I saw a group of motorcycles west bound towards San Antonio that included at least one (might have been two) red PC800s. Couldn't wave because of the barricades and cranes and all. Anyone I know? Dja have a good ride? Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Air Freshener not needed with a taller wind shield. - Here's why: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:49:58 -0700 My first reaction was to dangle a freshener inside one's helmet. However the real solution has to do with the real problem - CRUNCHY, SLIMY BUG GUTS in one's Helmet vents. You know what it smells like - That same smell you get when rehydrating the bug blood on your wind shield when cleaning it with a damp cloth.... The real solution?? Get a taller shield! I ordered my 32" Rifle (top to bottom of base) this morning. At $250+ it is admittedly more expensive than an air freshener. Jeff K. 95 PC -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Grea Ned < greatned@quik.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu < pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:53 AM Subject: PC800: accessory question Hi coasters-- I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC? Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology render another choice superior. Please advise. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" question:
 
What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC?
 
Pine has always been the standard; all others seem to be pretenders to the throne. But perhaps your experience plus some modern technology render another choice superior.
 
Please advise.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con Brio"
Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:10:50 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Updated PC extras Site Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:10:14 +0200 Hi, I have updated the PC Extras site on My homepage. There are pictures of the Sigma computer, the new DnT UHF 69 LPD radio and antenna among others. http://lovik.tripod.com/PCextras.html Can You tell whitch photos is taken with the new camera ? ;-) Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Adams" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Sighting Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:33:19 EDT I wasn't in Texas, but I would like to acknowledge a very well tricked out Pearl White PC I saw at Lakehurst Naval Air Station on Sunday; I never asked the owners name, but the bike was immaculate, and had lots of extras - he rode away with the radio playing, turning the heads of all the Tattooed non-believers in the vicinity. Anyone on the list? >From: "Revill Dunn" >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Sighting >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:44 -0500 >MHotMailBB052303001ED820F39F81078023FDCC0; Mon Jun 05 09:40:43 2000 >fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB16049;Mon, 5 Jun 2000 >11:40:35 -0500 (CDT) >Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:40:01 -0500 (CDT) >sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28284for ; >Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:50 -0500 (CDT) >(8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with SMTP id LAA14978for ; Mon, 5 Jun >2000 11:39:47 -0500 (CDT) >Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:44:39 -0500 >amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id LAA05515 for >; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) >mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14169 for ; >Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14165 for ; Mon, 5 Jun >2000 11:39:45 -0500 (CDT) >/8.7.1) id LAA16938 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:44 -0500 >(CDT) >X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 >X-WSS-ID: 1525077D59193-01-01 > >This Sunday, I had to go to Houston to deliver my son to his grandparents, >and >bring a piano back for my daughter. I took the pickup because the trombone >rack I've ordered from Givi hasn't come in yet and I didn't want to carry a >piano on the PC800 without a proper rack. > >On I10 a few miles east of Columbus and smack in the middle of the >perpetual >construction zone, I saw a group of motorcycles west bound towards San >Antonio >that included at least one (might have been two) red PC800s. Couldn't wave >because of the barricades and cranes and all. > >Anyone I know? Dja have a good ride? > >Revill Dunn > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:27:35 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Updated PC extras Site To: alvik@chello.no Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) alvik@chello.no writes: >Hi, >I have updated the PC Extras site on My homepage. >There are pictures of the Sigma computer, the new DnT UHF 69 LPD radio and >antenna among others. >http://lovik.tripod.com/PCextras.html >Can You tell whitch photos is taken with the new camera ? ;-) > > >Regards >Arvid >alvik@chello.no >PCOG # 2 >GWRRA # 147178 >http://lovik.tripod.com Nice pictures. I like your antenna. Since It is suction cup mounted does that mean you can stick it on top of your helmet for even more range?:-) The only thing you failed to describe to us is your key case shown in the picture above the Sigma. I keep looking for one like that but can't seem to find one here. Really. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:19:19 -0600 From: M&S To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed Hello fellas, Anyone know of a simpler way to change an '89 fork seal than removing all the fairing pieces and pulling the complete tubes ? (Please dont suggest my local dealer, as he doesnt even know what a PC is, and also has a bad rep for decent repair too). Also, does anyone have a hint as to how to fix/cover/repair a stone nick in the upper fork tube, so it doesnt ruin my new seal too ? I believe i once heard that the nick could be filled with a clear laquer (or something similar ?) and polished down to work ? Please respond to my personal email as well, Thanks, Murray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66702U35000L35000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:26:40 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:22:08 -0500 Not having done this myself, I can only tell you what I have heard. Gel Super Glue to fill the dent and then sand it down. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "M&S" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed > Hello fellas, > Anyone know of a simpler way to change an '89 fork seal than removing > all the fairing pieces and pulling the complete tubes ? (Please dont > suggest my local dealer, as he doesnt even know what a PC is, and also > has a bad rep for decent repair too). > Also, does anyone have a hint as to how to fix/cover/repair a stone > nick in the upper fork tube, so it doesnt ruin my new seal too ? I > believe i once heard that the nick could be filled with a clear laquer > (or something similar ?) and polished down to work ? > Please respond to my personal email as well, > > Thanks, > Murray > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:50:36 -0700 After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, formerly known as: "95 PC" AKA "The Male/Female bike symbol" Spousal AKA "That darn bike of yours" Is from now on referred to simply as: "800 Mhz" Thank You. Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 mhz" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:26:07 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Non PC related: Hotel/motel in SF,CA Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:25:40 +0200 Hi all , Most of the route on the tour is ready now. I have been searching the net for booking a hotel room in San Fransisco for Us the last 4 days before returning home. The prices quoted has been extremely high and there must be some better prices available. Anyone have a place they prefer to stay at ,centrally in SF, they will recommend ?? It's for the days July 14 - July 18. Regards Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:24:29 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Grea Ned" , Subject: Re: PC800: accessory question Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:24:30 -0500 Hi coasters-- I shopped some accessories at an auto partzy place before this = weekend's ride, and came across a puzzling question: What is the best air freshener to buy for the PC Lee, I prefer day-old road kill. The Aroma of The Open Road... (flies = optional) --Ralph question:
 
What is the best air freshener to buy = for the=20 PC
 
Lee,
I prefer day-old road kill.  The = Aroma of=20 The Open Road... (flies optional)
 
--Ralph
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:29:25 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Revill Dunn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Sighting Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:29:26 -0500 > This Sunday, I had to go to Houston to deliver my son to his grandparents, and > bring a piano back for my daughter. I took the pickup because the trombone > rack I've ordered from Givi hasn't come in yet and I didn't want to carry a > piano on the PC800 without a proper rack. Don't feel too bad, after all with 88 keys to handle how would you locate the one for the bike's ignition? --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:33:12 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Jeff Krause" , Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:33:13 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeff Krause" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:50 PM Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > "800 Mhz" > > Thank You. > > Jeff Krause > 95 PC "800 mhz" We can accept that, as long as you don't do it with increasing frequency. The amplitude of that act is a bad sine to the rest of us. But, we'll wave. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:07:22 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: patkins99@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Paul, You bet! I would love to do the MDA run next year. I didn't 'cause I thought I would be the only PC and only non-hardly. I can't wait to go to Americade, Honda Hoot, and other riding event's in the next coming year. The wife is Pregnant (our first!) so, this summer isn't good for a trip. I have to save all the vacation I can. I do plan to take a jog to Kentucky for 5 day's. later all... Todd Skar 89'PC 12k "Poseidon" G.B. , WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Americade wipe out To: pc800 mailinglist Hey everyone, We had a crash on the way to Americade - I'm fine - my bike is fine - everyone is the party is fine. A two-up concours and the royal star went down on really narrow twisty ravine. The order was - Concours then Concours (2-up), then Royal Star, then Me (PC800) - with a Goldwing (2-up) with a trailer, then a chase car in the rear. We were going 35-40 when the second Concours, which was two-up, one of the foot pegs hit the road and the rear of the bike hopped and went off into the dirt. The Royal Star - who I don't think had much experince, followed right after them. They were in pretty tight formation. I was a few seconds behind them. Lucky for us the Game Warden was right behind us. Full crew came out... Went to the Rutland, VT Hospital. Just cuts, scrapes and bruised egos. They were really lucky - happened just in front of me. I was not in tight formation when it happened - Came to a stop and never locked up the wheels. One person; his wife is coming to collect him, the other two- rented a car and continued the journey. We were lucky we had a chase car behind us, collected all the extra parts from the two bikes. We were also lucky that a game warden was about 2 mins behind us. So, wear your protective gear; one guy was riding for 25 years. After they got checked out - most of us went to eat dinner (missed lunch). Needless to say, Imissed check-in today - that's Okay - tomorrow AM is an option. I pulled into my place to stay at 7pm, South Glens Falls. The sky was overcast and spitting rain for some of the day - no real rain. Nice roads out here! I'm beat - I'm going to find out what my host wants to do and we might go out. ..and to think this started at 8:30 this morning... side SAFE!!! ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 Nebuchadnezzar ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: I'm baaacccckkkkkk Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:56:17 -0500 HOORAY!!!!!!!! Picked up my repaired PC800 Saturday afternoon. Looks wonderful. A local body shop did some minor repairs to the RH fairing and the trunk lid, RH mirror and both RH crash guards were replaced. After getting it home and giving it a thorough cleaning and waxing, I decided that I really couldn't tell where it had been repaired. Very nice work. For Rich Fenwick's benefit, my trunk lid was replaced and matched perfectly. The line on the estimate is $406.32. Took less than two weeks to get. The body shop that "fixed" the fairing used the Colorite paint as I asked and redid a small area just below and aft of the vent that must have gotten some gravel kicked up during the slide. From farther away than 6", you can't tell the difference. Up very close, you can see that the area has new clearcoat but it is imperceptible from normal distances. Took a short ride Saturday and about 100 miles Sunday. Bike runs fine and I will start commuting on it tomorrow. Very fine service by the dealership and their service department. As a qualifier, I have tried to buy all of my parts and accessories from them since I got the bike and they all know me and (I think) appreciate my business. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot List Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:10:10 -0500 I have mailed the original list of Honda Hoot participants to those who answered the call. I have also asked Emile Nossin to post a copy on his PC800 Web site so that the list group can keep track of what is happening. If you are going and haven't, for some reason, included yourself on the list, send me an email at markieg@wowzer.com with your arrival / departure dates, where you are staying and where you are coming from. I hope that we can get a small crowd together for some meals and rides (Ride to eat, eat to ride) during the week. Look forward to seeing some of you there. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "pc800 mailinglist" Subject: Re: PC800: Americade wipe out Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:14:08 -0500 Glad to hear that you are uninjured and that everyone walked away. Hope that you have a great time at Americade (hell, yes, I'm jealous. I'll be working) and that this is the only problem that you encounter. Ride Safe Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX Christoffer Carstanjen wrote... > Hey everyone, > > We had a crash on the way to Americade - I'm fine - my > bike is fine - everyone is the party is fine..... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:18:26 -0500 Is it any wonder that the turkey buzzards attack? Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Jeff Krause" ; Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Krause" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:50 PM > Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, > > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > > "800 Mhz" > > > > Thank You. > > > > Jeff Krause > > 95 PC "800 mhz" > > We can accept that, as long as you don't do it with increasing frequency. > The amplitude of that act is a bad sine to the rest of us. But, we'll wave. > > --Ralph > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:49:39 +0000 To: LBurr1939@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: PC800: Re: PC Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 02:49:37 +0000 Larry, Thanks for the route info. I have heard from a couple of other riders also, and they confirm what you have said about the area. Still planning the ride; I hope to have the dates picked out tonight after reviewing any new responses about people's availability. It sounds as if you have a motorcycle now; are you interested in joining us on our ride? If you are interested, and haven't yet signed up on the PC800 email list, you should do so in order to see future messages about the ride. (Not to mention all the other interesting stuff you will see!) I am forwarding your message about searching for a PC to the list, in hopes that someone may have info for you. There have been several posts in recent weeks about PC's for sale. To look at them, you could go to the PC800 mailing list interface at: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/ and browse or search in the May and June archives. Also, if you aren't already familiar with it, you may want to look at the auction site eBay: http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category467/ind ex.html There often are no PC's on eBay, but I have seen a couple or so in the last 6 months, I believe. As you are learning, a used PC is not easy to find, and often not cheap. It is worth the effort to look for one, in my opinion. Having had mine for half a year, I could not be happier with the design of the bike. I would like to invite the list members who own '89 PC's to comment upon the problems with '89s you refer to. I am aware of the stator problem and the ignition cutout/tachometer craziness issues; nothing else particular to the '89 comes to mind at the moment, though there may well be other issues. I was not well informed when I bought my '89; however, I don't regret it at all. If I were looking for another PC today, I would of course prefer a newer one with very low mileage, but would MUCH rather have an '89 than no PC at all. Any comments from list members? Good luck with your hunt. I hope you are able to join us for the Northern Arkansas ride, and that you are able to join the hallowed ranks of PC owners! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Ralph, > > I just picked up your name/e-mail address off the PC800 link and want to > inquire about getting a PC. I live in Springfield, MO and have been riding > BMWs for several years but have always wanted a PC. I just lost an > opportunity to get a '96 (too much $) and have a tentative '89 to see but > understand they had several problems. My question of all PC riders is where > I might find a really clean one? > > Thanks for any suggestions/help you can give. > > Oh, and on the "No Coast" rides; you have one with a route that takes 65 to > 60, 60 into West Plains, and 160 back to Ozark. One can improve the scenery > and enjoyment of twisties considerably by taking 14 from Ozark to West > Plains--Magnificent! > > Larryb -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mailhost.cle.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:50:10 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:53:34 -0400 From: Mark Skrocki To: M&S CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed Hi Murray, You do not have to remove all the fairing pieces to drop the fork tubes. If you have a shop manual, the pinch bolts on the triple clamps are allen (hex) bolts. You can get the supplied (tool kit) wrench up in the area and loosen and re-tighten the bolts. I had to replace a fork seal last year, believe me the easy part is dropping the tube, getting the nut off the top of the tube is the hard part. Good luck, hope this helps. Enjoy the ride... Mark Mark & Sandra Skrocki Hinckley, OH 1989 PC800 "Jersey Girl" (his) 1989 PC800 "Jackson, The Driveway Dancer" (hers) skrocki@ameritech.net M&S wrote: > Hello fellas, > Anyone know of a simpler way to change an '89 fork seal than removing > all the fairing pieces and pulling the complete tubes ? (Please dont > suggest my local dealer, as he doesnt even know what a PC is, and also > has a bad rep for decent repair too). > Also, does anyone have a hint as to how to fix/cover/repair a stone > nick in the upper fork tube, so it doesnt ruin my new seal too ? I > believe i once heard that the nick could be filled with a clear laquer > (or something similar ?) and polished down to work ? > Please respond to my personal email as well, > > Thanks, > Murray > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:53:04 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Mark Gilb" , Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:53:01 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > Is it any wonder that the turkey buzzards attack? Thank God! I was afraid it was the aroma of my aftershave! --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:57:04 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 02:57:02 +0000 Does that mean there's a Pentium III chip under all that plastic? I'd been wondering what's in there! ;-) How about a giant "Intel Inside" decal? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, formerly known as: > > "95 PC" > AKA "The Male/Female bike symbol" > Spousal AKA "That darn bike of yours" > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > "800 Mhz" > > Thank You. > > Jeff Krause > 95 PC "800 mhz" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 03:01:05 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:01:04 +0000 Ralph, Ralph, Ralph! First it was turkey vultures, then roadkill air fresheners, now technopuns. You are a true Renaissance Man! My helmet is off to you! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Krause" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:50 PM > Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, > > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > > "800 Mhz" > > > > Thank You. > > > > Jeff Krause > > 95 PC "800 mhz" > > We can accept that, as long as you don't do it with increasing frequency. > The amplitude of that act is a bad sine to the rest of us. But, we'll wave. > > --Ralph > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 03:09:06 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:09:06 +0000 Todd, Are you still going to be passing through Missouri on your summer trip? Keep me posted if you are; maybe we can get together and ride? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Paul, > You bet! I would love to do the MDA run next year. I didn't 'cause I > thought I would be the only PC and only non-hardly. I can't wait to go to > Americade, Honda Hoot, and other riding event's in the next coming year. The > wife is Pregnant (our first!) > so, this summer isn't good for a trip. I have to save all the vacation I can. > I do plan to take a jog to Kentucky for 5 day's. later all... > Todd Skar > 89'PC 12k > "Poseidon" > G.B. , WI > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 03:15:35 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:15:34 +0000 Mark, Ralph does make the birds' vicious attacks seem like rational, well-justified retribution, doesn't he? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Is it any wonder that the turkey buzzards attack? > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Couey" > To: "Jeff Krause" ; > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Krause" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:50 PM > > Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > > > > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > > > > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, > > > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > > > "800 Mhz" > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > Jeff Krause > > > 95 PC "800 mhz" > > > > We can accept that, as long as you don't do it with increasing frequency. > > The amplitude of that act is a bad sine to the rest of us. But, we'll > wave. > > > > --Ralph > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 03:16:56 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: I'm baaacccckkkkkk Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:16:55 +0000 Way to go, Mark! Enjoy! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > HOORAY!!!!!!!! Picked up my repaired PC800 Saturday afternoon. Looks > wonderful. A local body shop did some minor repairs to the RH fairing and > the trunk lid, RH mirror and both RH crash guards were replaced. After > getting it home and giving it a thorough cleaning and waxing, I decided that > I really couldn't tell where it had been repaired. Very nice work. > > For Rich Fenwick's benefit, my trunk lid was replaced and matched perfectly. > The line on the estimate is $406.32. Took less than two weeks to get. The > body shop that "fixed" the fairing used the Colorite paint as I asked and > redid a small area just below and aft of the vent that must have gotten some > gravel kicked up during the slide. From farther away than 6", you can't tell > the difference. Up very close, you can see that the area has new clearcoat > but it is imperceptible from normal distances. > > Took a short ride Saturday and about 100 miles Sunday. Bike runs fine and I > will start commuting on it tomorrow. > > Very fine service by the dealership and their service department. As a > qualifier, I have tried to buy all of my parts and accessories from them > since I got the bike and they all know me and (I think) appreciate my > business. > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:30:22 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "rfitzger" To: Subject: PC800: RUSSELL SEAT Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:20:02 -0400 My Russell Day long seat arrived on Friday June 4th. The seat was=20 scheduled for production April 6th. I install the "Butt Ugly" seat when I got home Friday night. Judy on = Little Red and me on Blackie took off Saturday for a short 350 mile ride. After 350 miles, The seat was re-named to "Butt Beautiful"!! And it's not = broke-in yet. I have a better ride position for my legs also. Very comfortable!! Well worth the wait. I think I might have to get a taller windshield as the seat is much = taller than the stock seat. For all of you that have seats on order, hang in there!=20 Bob Fitzgerald 95 PC Blackie Delaware, Oh -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:58:14 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing To: morttis@ix.netcom.com, timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/5/00 9:31:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, morttis@ix.netcom.com writes: << Make that a 107+mph scooter! At least time I checked. >> Wishful thinking. The PC is just as bad as most other bikes about having optimistic speedometers at higher speeds. I too have had mine at that range, but doubt seriously if it was even going 100. No biggie though. Fast enough for me. Funny, just a few years ago it would not have been near fast enough. Wonder why that is? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 04:01:00 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Cc: dcewens@aol.com (DCE - home) Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:00:59 +0000 Hello, all. The date of the first annual Northern Arkansas No-Coast Ride will be July 15 and 16. Routes and location have not yet been finalized. However, we will meet at a central point somewhere in Little Rock or north of Little Rock. We will have several routes out and back from the central point. Probably will choose three such routes, one for Saturday morning, one Saturday afternoon, and one Sunday morning. You will have the opportunity to ride all three rides, or just those that your schedule or preference allows. Several folks have offered to do a pre-ride with me. I plan to go down sometime during the weekend of June 16- 17-18 to scope out rides and try to scare up a good motel deal for us. Please let me know if you can participate in the pre-ride. I would be particularly pleased if any of you Arkansas riders would be available that weekend to offer your local knowledge. (Although several already have stated that they are not.) More details to follow as things get ironed out. Thank you all for your interest and patience. And thanks to those who have offered advice on routes or other issues. Please keep that advice coming! See you next month in Arkansas! Personal note: on the potential participant list below, you may note another Ewens. I have taken the liberty of including my brother, who is not presently fortunate to own a PC. (He rides a CB650 Nighthawk.) It is my hope that he will observe the fun we have and the excellence of the PC's that show up and decide to acquire a PC. The last time the subject of sport-touring came up, he allowed as how he might be interested in an ST (gasp)! Please be gentle with him. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 Possible participants as of 6-5-00: David Sigsbee - Memphis, TN Doug Alexander - Paducah, KY Bernie Kohler - Overland Park, KS Chuck Chiodini - Heber Springs, AR Don and Deb Fruehling - Ft. Worth, TX Bill Drake - Bolingbrook, IL Mark Gilb - Arnold, MO Jim Smith - Springfield, MO Ralph Couey - Columbia, MO Ed and Sharon Appler - Conway, AR Steve Wilson and wife - Ruston, LA David Sharum - Ft. Smith, AR Steve DeLorey - St. Louis area, MO Bob Ronecker - St. Louis, MO Christopher Russell-Wood - Silver Spring, MD Jim Terrill - Tulsa, OK Tim Davies - Seneca Falls, NY Vicky and Charlie Sheets - Olive Branch, MS Dennis Ewens - Grain Valley, MO Steve Ewens - Lee's Summit, MO -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 00:51:38 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: sge2000@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I could pass thru Missouri on the way. I have an old Navy buddy living in Nicholsville, KY. Anyone else near by??? Will keep ya posted!!! Todd Skar 89'PC 12k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:23:40 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hm. I went to one of those trough-buffet places over the holiday weekend, and The World's Cutest Old Man(tm) spent about a half hour talking about my massive Honda Helix. "What kinda engine they put in there- must be about a 400." "800 V Twin." "Boy, that's practically a motorcycle." KcG -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:51:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Mark Skrocki" , "M&S" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:52:18 -0700 Loosen the nut on the top of the fork tubes before you release it from the triple clamp. I did it on the '89 I had and the job was much easier that way. DON"T take them all the way off while they are in the triple clamp, just loosen them. And no, I didn't take much plastic off to do the job. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mark Skrocki To: M&S Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:52 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed > >Hi Murray, > >You do not have to remove all the fairing pieces to drop the fork tubes. >If you have a shop manual, the pinch bolts on the triple clamps are allen >(hex) bolts. You can get the supplied (tool kit) wrench up in the area and >loosen and re-tighten the bolts. I had to replace a fork seal last year, >believe me the easy part is dropping the tube, getting the nut off the top >of the tube is the hard part. Good luck, hope this helps. > >Enjoy the ride... > >Mark > >Mark & Sandra Skrocki >Hinckley, OH >1989 PC800 "Jersey Girl" (his) >1989 PC800 "Jackson, The Driveway Dancer" (hers) >skrocki@ameritech.net > >M&S wrote: > >> Hello fellas, >> Anyone know of a simpler way to change an '89 fork seal than removing >> all the fairing pieces and pulling the complete tubes ? (Please dont >> suggest my local dealer, as he doesnt even know what a PC is, and also >> has a bad rep for decent repair too). >> Also, does anyone have a hint as to how to fix/cover/repair a stone >> nick in the upper fork tube, so it doesnt ruin my new seal too ? I >> believe i once heard that the nick could be filled with a clear laquer >> (or something similar ?) and polished down to work ? >> Please respond to my personal email as well, >> >> Thanks, >> Murray >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 04:15:06 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:14:55 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > Ralph, Ralph, Ralph! First it was turkey vultures, then > roadkill air fresheners, now technopuns. You are a true > Renaissance Man! My helmet is off to you! > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > '89 PC800 Steve, Keep your helmet on or you'll end up like me! BUWAHAHAHAHAHA! --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:23:51 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 12:23:51 +0000 Todd, When's your summer trip scheduled? It just occurred to me that it would be great if it happened to coincide with the first annual Northern Arkansas No-Coast Ride, scheduled for the weekend of July 15 and 16. Even if not, we have a small number of PC list members in KC and throughout Missouri, many of whom seem ready to ride at the drop of a hat! Maybe we could get you an escort for part of your ride? Keep us posted. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > I could pass thru Missouri on the way. I have an old Navy buddy living in > Nicholsville, KY. Anyone else near by??? Will keep ya posted!!! > Todd Skar > 89'PC 12k > "Poseidon" > Green Bay, WI > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:54:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed M&S writes: > Anyone know of a simpler way to change an '89 fork seal than removing > all the fairing pieces and pulling the complete tubes ? (Please dont > suggest my local dealer, as he doesnt even know what a PC is, and also > has a bad rep for decent repair too). > > Also, does anyone have a hint as to how to fix/cover/repair a stone > nick in the upper fork tube, so it doesnt ruin my new seal too ? I You have to pull the forks. While it's possible to do so without removing the main fairing bits, you'd better have small hands, because there isn't much room in there. I think it's easier to just pull the bodywork. If you remove the bodywork, you can take advantage of the situation to do other maintenance, such as checking the tightness of the steering head bearings, maybe installing a headlight modulator or dual horns, run a heavy gauge wire through a relay to the high beam, etc. The fork tube caps are a special case, since they are designed to be removed with a 17mm allen wrench, probably unobtainable except from Honda. My solution was to buy a short metric cap screw with a 17mm head and 2 nuts. Jam the nuts together (and use Loctite). Ideally, all three hex faces should be aligned. Use this with a socket or with the 17mm wrench that comes with the PC to loosen the fork tube caps BEFORE you loosen the pinch bolts. Then slide the tubes out, and you can take the caps off with very little effort. Re the pit in the fork tube, you could use gel super glue, as Steve Wilson suggests, or you could use the miracle fix everything stuff, JB Weld. Whatever you choose, the first step is to meticulously clean the area to be patched with solvent such as brake parts cleaner. If you use JB Weld, bear in mind that the stuff takes 24 hours to cure properly before you sand it flush. The fork tubes should be lightly scored with a cross hatch pattern (for the same reasons as doing so in a cylinder bore). The last time I rebuilt a set of forks, I reassembled them with everything except the dust seals. Then I put the lower part of the fork into a vise (with some towel), stuck a rubber expanding drain plug into the top of the fork tube, then chucked the bolt from the plug into an electric drill. My wife ran the drill slowly, while I moved a strip of 400 grit wet or dry paper (wet) up and down the rotating fork tube. This created a nice fine cross hatch pattern on the tube. Clean thoroughly to remove any grit, then spray some silicone lubricant into the well around the oil seal before sliding the dust seal in place to button everything up. For other front-end tips, see my post from april 1999: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9904/msg00496.html ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:14:03 -0500 Hope it's not running Microsoft OS. That means he'll have to stop and restart the engine every time the wheels lock up. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Does that mean there's a Pentium III chip under all that plastic? I'd been wondering what's in there! ;-) How about a giant "Intel Inside" decal? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, formerly known as: > > "95 PC" > AKA "The Male/Female bike symbol" > Spousal AKA "That darn bike of yours" > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > "800 Mhz" > > Thank You. > > Jeff Krause > 95 PC "800 mhz" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <20000606025704.PTPJ2120.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.n et> <003001bfcfb9$16297ba0$b61554d1@visionquest> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:42:57 -0400 To: "Larry Johnson" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Cc: "PC800 List" At 8:14 AM -0500 6/6/00, Larry Johnson wrote: >Hope it's not running Microsoft OS. That means he'll have to stop and >restart the engine every time the wheels lock up. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: > > >Does that mean there's a Pentium III chip under all that >plastic? I'd been wondering what's in there! ;-) Hmmm.... I guess this also means that the speedometer will *say* he is the fastest one on the road, but at the same time he'll get passed by a team of Grandmother's on Helix's. >How about a giant "Intel Inside" decal? > "Intel Inside"............. the Surgeon General's warning for computer shoppers..... fsl ;-) (...not a Windoze fan, if you haven't guessed yet! ....) -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Chuck Chiodini" , Subject: Re: PC800: Electrical Troubleshooting Tips Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 07:00:56 -0700 Thank you Chuck for the tips, some good spring tips for the new year Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list mailinglist" Subject: PC800: I converted one........... Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:07:45 -0400 The power of the PC strikes again. I just received an e-mail from a = riding friend that informed me that he just bought a PC. While = shopping for a Honda lawn mower he and his wife found a 1997, 3600k, PC = at a local dealer. He remembered being very impressed with my PC. = Apparently his wife opened the way for the purchase. She said " we = should trade our Night Hawk in for the PC". In his excitment to get = the new bike he rode 1.5 hours in the rain to make the trade. His = words were " Wow I love this bike".=20 That says it all for me. See you at the Hoot.... Kenneth L. Winter bought=20 a  PC.  While shopping for a Honda lawn mower he and his wife = found a=20 1997, 3600k, PC at a local dealer.  He remembered being very = impressed with=20 my PC.  Apparently his wife opened the way for the purchase.  = She said=20 " we should trade our Night Hawk in for the PC".    In = his=20 excitment to get the new bike he rode 1.5 hours in the rain to make the=20 trade.   His words were " Wow I love this bike".
 
That says it all for  = me.
 
See you at the Hoot....
 
Kenneth L. = Winter
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "Pacific Coast mailing list mailinglist" Subject: PC800: I converted one........... Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:13:54 -0400 The power of the PC strikes again. I just received an e-mail from a = riding friend that informed me that he just bought a PC. While = shopping for a Honda lawn mower he and his wife found a 1997, 3600k, PC = at a local dealer. He remembered being very impressed with my PC. = Apparently his wife opened the way for the purchase. She said " we = should trade our Night Hawk in for the PC". In his excitment to get = the new bike he rode 1.5 hours in the rain to make the trade. His = words were " Wow I love this bike".=20 That says it all for me. See you at the Hoot.... Kenneth L. Winter bought=20 a  PC.  While shopping for a Honda lawn mower he and his wife = found a=20 1997, 3600k, PC at a local dealer.  He remembered being very = impressed with=20 my PC.  Apparently his wife opened the way for the purchase.  = She said=20 " we should trade our Night Hawk in for the PC".    In = his=20 excitment to get the new bike he rode 1.5 hours in the rain to make the=20 trade.   His words were " Wow I love this bike".
 
That says it all for  = me.
 
See you at the Hoot....
 
Kenneth L. = Winter
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "rfitzger" , Subject: Re: PC800: RUSSELL SEAT Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 07:15:48 -0700 Thanks for the encouragement. I just mailed off my seat to Russell last = week. I am most grateful to another lister (Jesus Soriano) who loaned me = his spare seat to use during the wait.=20 Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: rfitzger =20 My Russell Day long seat arrived on Friday June 4th. The seat was=20 scheduled for production April 6th. =20 I install the "Butt Ugly" seat when I got home Friday night. Judy on = Little Red and me on Blackie took off Saturday for a short 350 mile ride. = After 350 miles, The seat was re-named to "Butt Beautiful"!! And it's not = broke-in yet. I have a better ride position for my legs also. =20 Very comfortable!! Well worth the wait. =20 I think I might have to get a taller windshield as the seat is much = taller than the stock seat. =20 For all of you that have seats on order, hang in there!=20 =20 Bob Fitzgerald 95 PC Blackie Delaware, Oh -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 lawnmowers and motorcycles? Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 07:31:29 PDT >The power of the PC strikes again. I just received an e-mail from a > >riding friend that informed me that he just bought a PC. While > >shopping for a Honda lawn mower he and his wife found a 1997, 3600k, >PC >at a local dealer. He remembered being very impressed with my PC. > >Apparently his wife opened the way for the purchase. She said " we > >should trade our Night Hawk in for the PC". In his excitment to get > >the new bike he rode 1.5 hours in the rain to make the trade. His > >words were "Wow I love this bike". OK, NOW I understand why motorcycle dealers sell lawnmowers! Did he get the lawnmower too? ;) Oh, on lawnmowers.... next time I'm buying a Honda. If they are half as reliable as my PC-800 they have to be far superior to my 2+ year old MTD "Yardman"... which seems to end up dead -- and in the shop -- every year. I've taken to calling it the Harley of Lawnmowers. I should have paid more attention to the reliablity chart in Consumer Rpts. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:06:20 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 15:06:19 +0000 Makes me wonder - what if Bill Gates bought Honda? Scary thought, huh? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > At 8:14 AM -0500 6/6/00, Larry Johnson wrote: > >Hope it's not running Microsoft OS. That means he'll have to stop and > >restart the engine every time the wheels lock up. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > > > > > >Does that mean there's a Pentium III chip under all that > >plastic? I'd been wondering what's in there! ;-) > > > Hmmm.... I guess this also means that the speedometer will *say* he > is the fastest one on the road, but at the same time he'll get passed > by a team of Grandmother's on Helix's. > > > >How about a giant "Intel Inside" decal? > > > > "Intel Inside"............. the Surgeon General's warning for > computer shoppers..... > > > fsl ;-) (...not a Windoze fan, if you haven't guessed yet! ....) > > -- > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > 1995 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu OK, Jeff...we'll go! At least there will be two of us, and maybe we can find that other guy on a '96! --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > Paul, > You bet! I would love to do the MDA run next year. > I didn't 'cause I > thought I would be the only PC and only non-hardly. > I can't wait to go to > Americade, Honda Hoot, and other riding event's in > the next coming year. The > wife is Pregnant (our first!) > so, this summer isn't good for a trip. I have to > save all the vacation I can. > I do plan to take a jog to Kentucky for 5 day's. > later all... > Todd Skar > 89'PC 12k > "Poseidon" > G.B. , WI __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: Paul Atkins , ASKARDLIFE@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sorry, Todd! I called you Jeff. I am sure that must be our middle name! Paul --- Paul Atkins wrote: > OK, Jeff...we'll go! At least there will be two of > us, > and maybe we can find that other guy on a '96! > --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > > Paul, > > You bet! I would love to do the MDA run next > year. > > I didn't 'cause I > > thought I would be the only PC and only > non-hardly. > > I can't wait to go to > > Americade, Honda Hoot, and other riding event's in > > the next coming year. The > > wife is Pregnant (our first!) > > so, this summer isn't good for a trip. I have to > > save all the vacation I can. > > I do plan to take a jog to Kentucky for 5 day's. > > later all... > > Todd Skar > > 89'PC 12k > > "Poseidon" > > G.B. , WI > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:33:33 EDT Subject: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net To: sansing@restorationtile.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sandy... Regarding your search for a PC, you might want to drop by www.cyclebytel.com. Click on the link to "Classifieds", and specify a search for HONDA and search for both "PC 800" and "Pacific Coast". This morning, there were a total of ELEVEN of our beloved PC's on the block! While caveat emptor certainly applies, there were several that appeared to be worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). What may be the pick of the litter was a Red 96 sold new in '97, in the L.A. area with only 5000 miles with an asking price of "$4200, negotiable". There were several in the mid-$5000 range with reasonable miles on them, with a couple in the mid-US area. This list changes fairly often, and isn't a bad place to watch, and if nothing else, gives another barometer on what is out there from a price / option / miles standpoint. Happy Hunting! Dean Williams Springfield, OR '98 PC800 in Gorgeous Red (oh no....the color thread again) "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:36:19 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run To: sge2000@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Steve, That's a pretty good iea! I will let ya know if I can swing the July 15 & 16 ride. It will be my first LONG ride. I am finally able to order my Metzler ME880's!!! I saved enough money that I should be able to get the Clearview +3 also! *Remember Paul...you offered to help! (Please) In the event I can't get to kentucky, I will have to come down to KC,Missouri , just to get together with other lister's! Thanks for the invite! will keep ya posted. *Paul-wanna try something like this?.....need a riding buddy to Mad town? My cuzin' lives in New Glarus. Later all Todd Skar 89'PC 12k "Poseidon" G.B. , WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:57:15 +0000 To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Green Bay MD Run Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:57:15 +0000 Todd, I sure wouldn't care to predict how this will turn out, but at this point we have more than 15 bikes that may ride Northern Arkansas. If even 10 are able to get together, that's going to be an awesome sight to a midwestern boy who has never seen more than 3 PC's at one time! Better be there if you can. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Steve, > That's a pretty good iea! I will let ya know if I can swing the July 15 & > 16 ride. It will be my first LONG ride. I am finally able to order my > Metzler ME880's!!! I saved enough money that I should be able to get the > Clearview +3 also! *Remember Paul...you offered to help! (Please) In the > event I can't get to kentucky, I will have to come down to KC,Missouri , just > to get together with other lister's! > Thanks for the invite! will keep ya posted. > *Paul-wanna try something like this?.....need a riding buddy to Mad town? My > cuzin' lives in New Glarus. Later all > Todd Skar > 89'PC 12k > "Poseidon" > G.B. , WI > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: MCN Articles Online Several posts to this list in the past year would have been helped by the following articles that are currently available on the Motorcycle Consumer News web site: How To: Brake Rebuilding (February 1999) http://www.mcnews.com/depts/brakreb299.html Tech Tip: Stubborn Fasteners; Busting Nuts... Without Busting Knuckles (July 1999) http://www.mcnews.com/articles/tt799.html Both articles have excellent photos, which print well, even from a web page. About the only thing missing is a warning to wear protective gloves while working with solvents such as brake parts cleaner. MCN addressed that in an article this year... ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "Selden Deemer" Cc: "Pacific Coast mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:48:38 -0400 My seals are fine, but am sure the oil is over 10 years old. Is there an easy way to drain and fill the front shocks? This is the only original fluid left in the bike. Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:46:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: Kenneth cc: Pacific Coast mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed There is no easy way. For reasons unknown, Honda designed the only set of forks I've ever seen that lack drain plugs in the lowers. You can suck out most of the old fluid with a pump or a turkey baster and a long piece of vinyl tubing, but it's a messy process (don't ask). You really don't want to risk spilling fork oil on the disc pads. The best way to change the fork oil on a PC -- and the least effort in the long run -- is to remove the tubes. Then you can do things like pump them to get rid of all the old oil, and put in stiffer springs or more preload if you feel the front end needs firming up. All these things can be done with the forks in place, but it's harder to do them right, and easier to screw up things with spills, damaged body work, etc. When filling the forks with fresh oil, it's important to put exactly the same amount in each leg, and measuring the oil height from the top (which requires repeated pumping of the fork leg to get rid of air bubbles) is more accurate than pouring from a measuring cup. This is another task more easily done off the bike than on. That said, the oil in the forks of my 1994 was clearer (and thicker) than any OEM fork oil I've ever extracted from a set of Honda forks. It probably didn't really need changing. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Kenneth wrote: > My seals are fine, but am sure the oil is over 10 years old. Is there > an easy way to drain and fill the front shocks? This is the only > original fluid left in the bike. > > Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:43:51 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed To: libssd@emory.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: > You can >suck out most of the old fluid with a pump or a turkey baster and a >long piece of vinyl tubing, but it's a messy process (don't ask). You >really don't want to risk spilling fork oil on the disc pads > >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu Please take me off your guest list for turkey dinner at your house:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed Actually, I use a giant 2 oz syringe for injecting turkeys. I found this at Home Depot last year. I discarded the 2" long needle and slipped a piece of vinyl tubing over the end. The body of the syringe is calibrated, which makes it easy to add or remove precise amounts of oil. The only problem is that if you're a little over-eager on the extraction phase, the plunger can pull completely out -- spraying oil everywhere. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, PC800 Rider wrote: > libssd@emory.edu writes: > > You can > >suck out most of the old fluid with a pump or a turkey baster and a > >long piece of vinyl tubing, but it's a messy process (don't ask). You > >really don't want to risk spilling fork oil on the disc pads > > > >Selden Deemer > >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > > Please take me off your guest list for turkey dinner at your house:-) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:15:23 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'PC800 Rider'" , "libssd@emory.edu" Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:12:46 -0700 But it gives the turkey such a nice brown skin with that burned flavor ... just a little bit road weary though. Jim Alexander Bay Point California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 6/6/00 11:44 AM, PC800 Rider [SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] wrote: > libssd@emory.edu writes: > > You can > >suck out most of the old fluid with a pump or a turkey baster and a > >long piece of vinyl tubing, but it's a messy process (don't ask). You > >really don't want to risk spilling fork oil on the disc pads > > > > Please take me off your guest list for turkey dinner at your house:-) > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E9WHZSZM; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:15:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:08:05 -0500 Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 From: Jim M SMITH Not sure if I can make ride or not as I'm kind of limited to 75 miles from Springfield so that I can get back in case of medical problems with my wife who is in a nursing home. For anyone planning their trip south via US 65 be sure and find a way to miss US 65 between Ozark and Branson MO as there are construction and delays of 20 min to 1 hour 30 minutes when they are blasting (at least twice a day) Also going south on US 160 or US 13 theres is construction around Reed Springs and Branson West. There are some really good riding roads to use to get around these site and if you let me know which way you are coming from I'll point them out to you and possibly be able to ride with you awhile The local Retreads (4 or 5 PC PC's) have traveled most of the side roads in this area within the last year on our Wednesday lunch rides Jim SMITH: 90 PC 23,000+ Springfield MO Corbin Seat,Tall Shield,CycleCom, Priority Plus Lights OKCDOC@JUNO.COM, OKCDOC@AOL.COM Retreads Gateway Region (Springfield) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 14:27:47 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot List Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:22:29 +0200 >From: Mark Gilb >I have mailed the original list of Honda Hoot participants to those who >answered the call. I have also asked Emile Nossin to post a copy on his >PC800 Web site so that the list group can keep track of what is happening. And for those wondering what that site was: http://go.to/pc800 Click on Honda Hoot..... Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams To: KGray96057@aol.com, timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing That's a GREAT punch-line. I would've grinned from ear to ear if he had said that to me. This past weekend, I had someone ask me how I liked "my ST". Oh, well. It's lonely at the top... Darth Beau 1994 Black PC 800 "Emperor Palpatine" ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: June 6, 2000 5:23:40 AM GMT Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing Hm. I went to one of those trough-buffet places over the holiday weekend, and The World's Cutest Old Man(tm) spent about a half hour talking about my massive Honda Helix. "What kinda engine they put in there- must be about a 400." "800 V Twin." "Boy, that's practically a motorcycle." KcG -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:58:15 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net To: DWilli5342@aol.com, sansing@restorationtile.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, DWilli5342@aol.com writes: << there were several that appeared to be worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 models) feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel better about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all the PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of the best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have one! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:13:57 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: ME880 Hi folks. I had a set of ME880's installed today. I went with the stock front size and the 150/80-15 on the rear. My rear Dunlop K555 was down to the wear bars after less than 10,000 miles on it. The front would still be good for another 2,000-4,000 miles, but I wanted a matched set. I kept the front for future emergency use. My initial observations.... I usually drive at 75mph on the freeway, which was 5,000 rpm. Now it turns at about 4650 instead. I could have reduced the rpm's even more by going to the 140/90-15, but that wasn't my goal. The stock Dunlop K555 measured 6 inches across the back at the widest point. This 150 wide ME880 is only 5.3/4 wide at it's widest. The stock size ME880 must be pretty narrow. The front 'looks' beefier than before, but I hadn't measured the old one first to compare. I'm going to be putting about 1,500 miles on them in the next week, so I'll report back later with any additional observations. Take care. fsl -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:54:35 -0700 (PDT) From: J Serlo Subject: PC800: Oil Change To: PC 800 List Planning some main tance work this weekend. Ordered the service manual $ 45. I think I'm safe doing it without the manual. My question without creating an oil thread is what wt and type oil are most using. Bad/good luck/brands. Got four rides so far can't wait till the rain stops for five. Thanks for the help, Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:17:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: ME880 To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Francois, thanks for the offer to update us, my rear tire looks good, but I am beginning to wonder about the rear. I have one of the 96's that were sold at discount in 97. The front is OEM, and the rear was replaced last summer when I picked up a nail. So, beginning to look at the front tire a bit. I have 12.5 k miles on my bike, Paul in Wisconsin '96 PC800 --- Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Hi folks. > > I had a set of ME880's installed today. I went with > the stock front > size and the 150/80-15 on the rear. My rear Dunlop > K555 was down to > the wear bars after less than 10,000 miles on it. > The front would > still be good for another 2,000-4,000 miles, but I > wanted a matched > set. I kept the front for future emergency use. > > My initial observations.... > > I usually drive at 75mph on the freeway, which was > 5,000 rpm. Now it > turns at about 4650 instead. I could have reduced > the rpm's even > more by going to the 140/90-15, but that wasn't my > goal. > > The stock Dunlop K555 measured 6 inches across the > back at the widest > point. This 150 wide ME880 is only 5.3/4 wide at > it's widest. The > stock size ME880 must be pretty narrow. > > The front 'looks' beefier than before, but I hadn't > measured the old > one first to compare. > > I'm going to be putting about 1,500 miles on them in > the next week, > so I'll report back later with any additional > observations. > > Take care. > > fsl > > > -- > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > 1995 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ME880 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:38:46 EDT OK...so I just checked my tires....and I am unable to find the wear bars. I have seen them before on other type of tires so I do have an idea what to look for but these seem not to have any. They are the Dunlops K55 front and rear...rear looks ok but the front will probably need to be replaced soon. Anybody have any suggestions before I pull out a ruler! >From: Francois Saint Laurent >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: ME880 >Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:13:57 -0400 > > >Hi folks. > >I had a set of ME880's installed today. I went with the stock front >size and the 150/80-15 on the rear. My rear Dunlop K555 was down to >the wear bars after less than 10,000 miles on it. The front would >still be good for another 2,000-4,000 miles, but I wanted a matched >set. I kept the front for future emergency use. > >My initial observations.... > >I usually drive at 75mph on the freeway, which was 5,000 rpm. Now it >turns at about 4650 instead. I could have reduced the rpm's even >more by going to the 140/90-15, but that wasn't my goal. > >The stock Dunlop K555 measured 6 inches across the back at the widest >point. This 150 wide ME880 is only 5.3/4 wide at it's widest. The >stock size ME880 must be pretty narrow. > >The front 'looks' beefier than before, but I hadn't measured the old >one first to compare. > >I'm going to be putting about 1,500 miles on them in the next week, >so I'll report back later with any additional observations. > >Take care. > >fsl > > >-- >Francois Saint Laurent >Ottawa, Canada >1995 PC800 >Waltzing Matilda > >*** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > >1. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,CANADA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Wed, 7 Jun 2000 02:43:19 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Cc: LBurr1939@aol.com (Larry Burr) Subject: PC800: Northern Arkansas No-Coast Ride 2000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 02:43:19 +0000 Larry, I'm forwarding this to you in case you missed it earlier today. Quite a nice collection of PC's for sale. I suspect that the listings are not all currently active; you see snow on the ground in the photos for at least one bike. (Incidentally, I think one of these may belong to Ralph Couey, a PC list member in Columbia, MO. I hope he isn't still trying to sell!) If you watch the PC800 list for awhile, you will probably see some for sale. I think I have seen a couple for sale by list members; they sounded like well- cared-for, well-equipped bikes, if I remember accurately. You also see postings from time to time when a list member becomes aware of a PC for sale at a dealership or by an individual not on the list. Keep watching! I actually don't know what the standard practice is on PC rides, but if I gotta organize it, I'm gonna boldly make some of my own rules. So here goes: if an old man on a beemer has the good taste to be searching for a PC800, he's more than welcome to ride with us! I'll add you to the list of likely participants. We'll see you in July! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com To: sansing@restorationtile.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:33:33 EDT Sandy... Regarding your search for a PC, you might want to drop by www.cyclebytel.com. Click on the link to "Classifieds", and specify a search for HONDA and search for both "PC 800" and "Pacific Coast". This morning, there were a total of ELEVEN of our beloved PC's on the block! While caveat emptor certainly applies, there were several that appeared to be worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). What may be the pick of the litter was a Red 96 sold new in '97, in the L.A. area with only 5000 miles with an asking price of "$4200, negotiable". There were several in the mid-$5000 range with reasonable miles on them, with a couple in the mid-US area. This list changes fairly often, and isn't a bad place to watch, and if nothing else, gives another barometer on what is out there from a price / option / miles standpoint. Happy Hunting! Dean Williams Springfield, OR '98 PC800 in Gorgeous Red (oh no....the color thread again) "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:03:05 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Off list Good night everyone... I'm leaving for Americade in the morning, so I am signing off the list for a while. I probably won't be signing back on for a few weeks, so if anyone needs to reach me please email me directly. Take care. fsl :-) -- Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada 1995 PC800 Waltzing Matilda *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Wed, 7 Jun 2000 02:58:11 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Cc: OKCDOC@JUNO.COM (Jim Smith) Subject: Re: PC800: Northern Arkansas Ride 2000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 02:58:10 +0000 Jim, I hope that things go well for your wife, medically speaking, and that you are able to make at least part of the ride. Thanks for the info about construction. I'll try to get with you a little closer to ride time and see what your status is then. The offer of a guide around the mess sounds attractive. Hope we get to see you. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Not sure if I can make ride or not as I'm kind of limited to 75 miles > from Springfield so that I can get back in case of medical problems with > my wife who is in a nursing home. > For anyone planning their trip south via US 65 be sure and find a way to > miss US 65 between Ozark and Branson MO as there are construction and > delays of 20 min to 1 hour 30 minutes when they are blasting (at least > twice a day) Also going south on US 160 or US 13 theres is construction > around Reed Springs and Branson West. > There are some really good riding roads to use to get around these site > and if you let me know which way you are coming from I'll point them out > to you and possibly be able to ride with you awhile > The local Retreads (4 or 5 PC PC's) have traveled most of the side roads > in this area within the last year on our Wednesday lunch rides > > Jim SMITH: 90 PC 23,000+ Springfield MO > Corbin Seat,Tall Shield,CycleCom, Priority Plus Lights > OKCDOC@JUNO.COM, OKCDOC@AOL.COM > Retreads Gateway Region (Springfield) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:10:04 +0000 To: "Mark Gilb" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 03:10:04 +0000 Mark, I think Ralph is ALWAYS this bad. However, it was charming to see those loud angry carrion-eating birds show their enthusiasm for his cheery personality and delightful comedy! Steve > Was he this bad on the Winelander ride? ;-) 'Course, maybe you couldn't hear > him if he was wearing a full face helmet. > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "PC800 List" > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > Mark, > > > > Ralph does make the birds' vicious attacks seem like > > rational, well-justified retribution, doesn't he? > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > Is it any wonder that the turkey buzzards attack? > > > > > > Mark Gilb > > > Arnold, Mo. > > > 95 PC800 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ralph Couey" > > > To: "Jeff Krause" ; > > > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jeff Krause" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:50 PM > > > > Subject: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his lawyers and publicity agent, > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Krause's 95 PC-800, > > > > > > Is from now on referred to simply as: > > > > > "800 Mhz" > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Krause > > > > > 95 PC "800 mhz" > > > > > > > > We can accept that, as long as you don't do it with increasing > frequency. > > > > The amplitude of that act is a bad sine to the rest of us. But, we'll > > > wave. > > > > > > > > --Ralph > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:24:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "Mark Gilb" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Name change notice for Jeff Krause's PC. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:24:17 -0500 > Mark, I think Ralph is ALWAYS this bad. However, it was > charming to see those loud angry carrion-eating birds > show their enthusiasm for his cheery personality and > delightful comedy! > > Steve > > Was he this bad on the Winelander ride? ;-) 'Course, maybe you couldn't hear > > him if he was wearing a full face helmet. > > > > Mark > > Yeah, yeah, yous guys is always carrion on.... --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:31:44 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Cc: markieg@wowzer.com (Mark Gilb), pcstarship@home.com (Ralph Couey) Subject: PC800: Buzzards Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 03:31:43 +0000 Two buzzards are boarding an airline flight, each with a dead armadillo under its wing. The gate agent asks if they would like to check the armadillos. The buzzards exchange a puzzled glance, then answer: "No, thanks, they're carrion." Ralph, we're sure getting a lot of use out of this buzzard theme. Do you think we're just beating a dead horse? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:39:03 EDT Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed To: libssd@emory.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated June 6, 2000 2:11:24 PM Central Daylight Time, libssd@emory.edu writes: << The only problem is that if you're a little over-eager on the extraction phase, the plunger can pull completely out -- spraying oil everywhere. >> Ain't it the truth.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: ME880 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:49:51 -0700 Francois-- what kind of figuring gets one to a "corrected" speedo reading when one changes tire sizes? Curious in Orygun, Lee ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Francois Saint Laurent" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: PC800: ME880 > > Hi folks. > > I had a set of ME880's installed today. I went with the stock front > size and the 150/80-15 on the rear. My rear Dunlop K555 was down to > the wear bars after less than 10,000 miles on it. The front would > still be good for another 2,000-4,000 miles, but I wanted a matched > set. I kept the front for future emergency use. > > My initial observations.... > > I usually drive at 75mph on the freeway, which was 5,000 rpm. Now it > turns at about 4650 instead. I could have reduced the rpm's even > more by going to the 140/90-15, but that wasn't my goal. > > The stock Dunlop K555 measured 6 inches across the back at the widest > point. This 150 wide ME880 is only 5.3/4 wide at it's widest. The > stock size ME880 must be pretty narrow. > > The front 'looks' beefier than before, but I hadn't measured the old > one first to compare. > > I'm going to be putting about 1,500 miles on them in the next week, > so I'll report back later with any additional observations. > > Take care. > > fsl > > > -- > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > 1995 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: Cc: "Byron Barker" Subject: PC800: trip report--somewhat longish Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:44:55 -0700 Hi Coasters-- Last weekend was a 900 mile excursion into the nether reaches of = southwestern Oregon. The narrative follows. The cast, in order of appearance: Self as Me Kevin Faught, my best man most recent, since moved to California Joel Byron Barker, younger son, resident of Ashland, employed by the = City Of, multitasking daily as part of the team bringing to fruition = the Ashland Fiber Network. Tim O'Connor, former resident of Tokatee, now of Portland. Charley Smith, resident of Tokatee, how holder of Tim's old job there, = riding herd on a hydro power project. Bert Nabor, world traveller by motorcycle. The Wheels: Self on Secondo Kevin on his BRAND new BMW K1200LT Joel on his venerable, beautiful, king of the UJMs, Suzuki GS850G Tim on his Harley Davidson FLHSTHeritageTSFCTDynaTHYPOVHydraGYMLE Charley on his, too, like that, only blue Bert on his BMW GS1000 (with 84k, mostly out of the country including = above the Arctic Circle as well as Mayan ruins considerably south of = that not to mention flying to Germany to pick it up brand new). Thursday afternoon I left home and 200 miles later met up with Kevin in = Ashland. We dined with Joel and with little encouragement he agreed to = come along. Friday Kevin and I cruised Medford, Jacksonville, the Applegate Valley, = ducked under I-5 through Sams Valley and Shady Cove and ended up at = Diamond Lake, the preappointed rendezvous. I racked up more than 55mpgs = that leg. =20 Joel, the two thundering motorized chromed up vibramatics, and Bert = arrived in that order. We camped on the South Umpqua. We discovered Kevin's bike does not have a microwave. At least it is = not mentioned in the first two volumes of the owner's manual. Saturday, under delicious skies and rare clouds, we wandered down the = river and then, at Glide, hit the North Bank Road to Sutherlin. Again = ducking under I-5, we loped to the coast at Reedsport, turned south, and = hunkered for the night at Bandon. =20 The altimeter read zero there. It is new to me, and had registered 6000 = feet near Crater Lake. A gizmo, but an entertaining one. Returning to our bikes, parked in an intimidating line on a quiet Bandon = street, we were surprised to find two newer BMW Dual Sports, fully = luggaged, added at the end like an ellipse in a Reader's Digest = sentence. The owners advanced on us. They looked at least intimidating, if not = threatening. =20 We chatted, dined together, they camped adjacent, and rode the next day = with the fracturing group. Stephan and Marco are German tradesmen, the former a welder/metal = fabricator, the latter a cabinetmaker. They had worked three years to = save the money and vacation time to ride the US. They had their bikes = shipped to Fairbanks, and are headed to Houston and then back to New = York and home. What a wonderful encounter that was! Joel and Kevin both knew enough = German to be hip to both sides. Stephan and Marco are certainly facile = in American, but needed the "little yellow book" from time to time. = Laughter easily fills these research voids. Motorcycles are a great = middle ground. Sunday morning I said goodbye to this amazing group and headed north = along the coast to Florence, thence inland to Eugene, under I-5 again, = and home over the McKenzie. =20 THINGS I LEARNED ON THIS TRIP Harley riders can be really nice, funny, fun company. Aftermarket Harley pipes are w a y too loud. The K1200LT front end was made from a plaster cast of a PC800. The handlebars of the K12 look like prosthetic limbs left on the floor = of the Creature Cantina in Star Wars. The best part of the K12 is the electric windshield. You think the PC is heavy....the K12 is over 200 lbs porkier. Bert tells the best stories.=20 The GS850, with Joel aboard, gives nothing away to any of these other = bikes, with the possible exception of dBs to the Harleys and luggage = space to the PC. The center stand trick--a recent thread--is a stunner. I did it twice, = to the amazement of the witnesses. Much of the enjoyment on this trip was the direct result of stuff I have = learned from this group of fellow PC Owners...like the centerstand = trick, like how to put a Vista Cruise on, like owning a PC Glovebox = (Thanks, Neill, I know you're not listening or listing), like lowering = the little snubbers in the hatchback lid, and on and on. Thanks, all, for making a great sport and pastime richer, neater, and = just plain more enjoyable. =20 Not to mention oil, PC color, or air fresheners. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" into the=20 nether reaches of southwestern Oregon.  The narrative = follows.
 
The cast, in order of = appearance:
 
Self as Me
 
Kevin Faught, my best man most recent, = since moved=20 to California
 
Joel Byron Barker, younger son, = resident of=20 Ashland, employed by the City Of, multitasking daily as part of the team = bringing to fruition the Ashland Fiber Network.
 
Tim O'Connor, former resident of = Tokatee, now of=20 Portland.
 
Charley Smith, resident of Tokatee, how = holder of=20 Tim's old job there, riding herd on a hydro power project.
 
Bert Nabor, world traveller by=20 motorcycle.
 
 
 
The Wheels:
 
Self on Secondo

Kevin on his BRAND new BMW = K1200LT
 
Joel on his venerable, beautiful, king = of the UJMs,=20 Suzuki GS850G
 
Tim on his Harley Davidson=20 FLHSTHeritageTSFCTDynaTHYPOVHydraGYMLE
 
Charley on his, too, like that, only=20 blue
 
Bert on his BMW GS1000 (with 84k, = mostly out of the=20 country including above the Arctic Circle as well as Mayan ruins = considerably=20 south of that not to mention flying to Germany to pick it up brand=20 new).
 
 
 
Thursday afternoon I left home and 200 = miles later=20 met up with Kevin in Ashland.  We dined with Joel and with little=20 encouragement he agreed to come along.
 
Friday Kevin and I cruised Medford, = Jacksonville,=20 the Applegate Valley, ducked under I-5 through Sams Valley and Shady = Cove and=20 ended up at Diamond Lake, the preappointed rendezvous.  I racked up = more=20 than 55mpgs that leg. 
 
Joel, the two thundering motorized = chromed up=20 vibramatics, and Bert arrived in that order.
 
We camped on the South = Umpqua.
 
We discovered Kevin's bike does not = have a=20 microwave.  At least it is not mentioned in the first two volumes = of the=20 owner's manual.
 
Saturday, under delicious skies and = rare clouds, we=20 wandered down the river and then, at Glide, hit the North Bank Road to=20 Sutherlin.  Again ducking under I-5, we loped to the coast at = Reedsport,=20 turned south, and hunkered for the night at Bandon. 
 
The altimeter read zero there.  It = is new to=20 me, and had registered 6000 feet near Crater Lake.  A gizmo, but an = entertaining one.
 
Returning to our bikes, parked in an = intimidating=20 line on a quiet Bandon street, we were surprised to find two newer BMW = Dual=20 Sports, fully luggaged, added at the end like an ellipse in a Reader's = Digest=20 sentence.
 
The owners advanced on us.   = They looked=20 at least intimidating, if not threatening. 
 
We chatted, dined together, they camped = adjacent,=20 and rode the next day with the fracturing group.
 
Stephan and Marco are German tradesmen, = the former=20 a welder/metal fabricator, the latter a cabinetmaker.  They had = worked=20 three years to save the money and vacation time to ride the US.  = They had=20 their bikes shipped to Fairbanks, and are headed to Houston and then = back to New=20 York and home.
 
What a wonderful encounter that = was!  Joel and=20 Kevin both knew enough German to be hip to both sides.  Stephan and = Marco=20 are certainly facile in American, but needed the "little yellow book" = from time=20 to time.  Laughter easily fills these research voids.  = Motorcycles are=20 a great middle ground.
 
Sunday morning I said goodbye to this = amazing group=20 and headed north along the coast to Florence, thence inland to Eugene, = under I-5=20 again, and home over the McKenzie. 
 
THINGS I LEARNED ON THIS = TRIP
 
Harley riders can be really nice, = funny, fun=20 company.
 
Aftermarket Harley pipes are w a y too=20 loud.
 
The K1200LT front end was made from a = plaster cast=20 of a PC800.
 
The handlebars of the K12 look like = prosthetic=20 limbs left on the floor of the Creature Cantina in Star = Wars.
 
The best part of the K12 is the = electric=20 windshield.
 
You think the PC is heavy....the K12 is = over 200=20 lbs porkier.
 
Bert tells the best = stories. 
 
The GS850, with Joel aboard, gives = nothing away to=20 any of these other bikes, with the possible exception of dBs to the = Harleys and=20 luggage space to the PC.
 
The center stand trick--a recent = thread--is a=20 stunner.  I did it twice, to the amazement of the = witnesses.
 
Much of the enjoyment on this trip was = the direct=20 result of stuff I have learned from this group of fellow PC = Owners...like the=20 centerstand trick, like how to put a Vista Cruise on, like owning a PC = Glovebox=20 (Thanks, Neill, I know you're not listening or listing), like lowering = the=20 little snubbers in the hatchback lid, and on and on.
 
Thanks, all, for making a great sport = and pastime=20 richer, neater, and just plain more enjoyable. 
 
Not to mention oil, PC color, or air=20 fresheners.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con = Brio"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:50:29 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "PC800 List" Cc: "Mark Gilb" Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:49:55 -0500 > Two buzzards are boarding an airline flight, each with a > dead armadillo under its wing. The gate agent asks if > they would like to check the armadillos. The buzzards > exchange a puzzled glance, then answer: "No, thanks, > they're carrion." > > Ralph, we're sure getting a lot of use out of this > buzzard theme. Do you think we're just beating a dead > horse? > Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVRMZI03.FXP for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:57:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Re-calibrating speedo / tire size changes? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:54:34 -0500 Go by a state trooper with your vista-cruise set for about 95mph, and when he pulls you over, ask him how fast he clocked you going. If he says 95 (give or take one or two), then all is fine. Politely thank him for his time in helping you out and leave. :-0 Or the safer bet is to get out on the interstate, set the vista cruise at 60mph and time yourself between mile markers. At 60mph, it will take 60 seconds to travel one mile (60 seconds from mile post to mile post). Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Grea Ned To: ; Francois Saint Laurent Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Re: PC800: ME880 > Francois-- > > what kind of figuring gets one to a "corrected" speedo reading when one > changes tire sizes? > > Curious in Orygun, > > Lee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Francois Saint Laurent" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 4:13 PM > Subject: PC800: ME880 > > > > > > Hi folks. > > > > I had a set of ME880's installed today. I went with the stock front > > size and the 150/80-15 on the rear. My rear Dunlop K555 was down to > > the wear bars after less than 10,000 miles on it. The front would > > still be good for another 2,000-4,000 miles, but I wanted a matched > > set. I kept the front for future emergency use. > > > > My initial observations.... > > > > I usually drive at 75mph on the freeway, which was 5,000 rpm. Now it > > turns at about 4650 instead. I could have reduced the rpm's even > > more by going to the 140/90-15, but that wasn't my goal. > > > > The stock Dunlop K555 measured 6 inches across the back at the widest > > point. This 150 wide ME880 is only 5.3/4 wide at it's widest. The > > stock size ME880 must be pretty narrow. > > > > The front 'looks' beefier than before, but I hadn't measured the old > > one first to compare. > > > > I'm going to be putting about 1,500 miles on them in the next week, > > so I'll report back later with any additional observations. > > > > Take care. > > > > fsl > > > > > > -- > > Francois Saint Laurent > > Ottawa, Canada > > 1995 PC800 > > Waltzing Matilda > > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > > > 1. > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVRN2U03.KY2; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:59:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Cc: "Mark Gilb" Subject: PC800: Beats the color thread Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:56:35 -0500 > Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... > > --Ralph YES!!! Finally something that I can agree with! Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey To: ; PC800 List Cc: Mark Gilb Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards > > > > Two buzzards are boarding an airline flight, each with a > > dead armadillo under its wing. The gate agent asks if > > they would like to check the armadillos. The buzzards > > exchange a puzzled glance, then answer: "No, thanks, > > they're carrion." > > > > Ralph, we're sure getting a lot of use out of this > > buzzard theme. Do you think we're just beating a dead > > horse? > > > > > Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... > > --Ralph > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVRNHM02.6XX for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:08:10 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:05:27 -0500 >It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to >own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 models) >worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, >mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >It's just that the Black ones were the best of the best. To me, this kind of @#%^& gets annoying after a while. You know, I don't give a care what color it is, just as long as it says "PACIFIC COAST" on the side, and NOT Concours on the front, and DOESN'T have a BMW badge on the fairing... If it's a PC, nothing else matters, right??? :-) Rich Fenwick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, > DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > > << there were several that appeared to be > worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, > mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> > Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 models) > feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel better > about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all the > PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of the > best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have one! > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Doug Allis" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 lawnmowers and motorcycles? of "Tue, 06 Jun 2000 07:31:29 PDT." <20000606143129.93417.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:48:48 -0500 From: David Kelly "Doug Allis" writes: > Oh, on lawnmowers.... next time I'm buying a Honda. If they are half as > reliable as my PC-800 they have to be far superior to my 2+ year old MTD > "Yardman"... which seems to end up dead -- and in the shop -- every year. > I've taken to calling it the Harley of Lawnmowers. I should have paid more > attention to the reliablity chart in Consumer Rpts. If you pay attention to Consumer Reports then you'll have to buy a John Deere. Their good "push" mowers have Kawasaki engines but seem to use exactly the same oil filter as the PC (if you have the optional oil filter kit on your 5.5 or 6.x HP Kawasaki engine.) My 21" John Deere Kawasaki turned 6 this year. I changed the spark plug last year for the first time. Have a spare belt for the self propelled drive but have never changed it. My Homelite lasted 6 years, ate a belt every 18 months, then chewed up its self propelling gearbox. When I looked, wasn't impressed with the Honda lawnmowers. Oil drain was in the wrong place, nearly impossible to get to. But John Deere used a big brass fitting and included a big clear vinyl hose for oil changes from the top side. Speaking of Harley lawnmowers.... Honda makes a v-twin industrial engine. If somebody was to take one of those, paint it black, throw lots of chrome and gold and guadyness on it, make it vibrate, and tune the exhaust to the right sound, and mount it on a lawnmower, I'd bet one could sell quite a few. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Jim Alexander" cc: "Mark Skrocki" , "M&S" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seal Help Needed of "Mon, 05 Jun 2000 23:52:18 PDT." <00a201bfcf83$c1dfd380$8b5d0718@c985317-a.wntck1.sfba.home.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:33:45 -0500 "Jim Alexander" writes: > Loosen the nut on the top of the fork tubes before you release it from the > triple clamp. I did it on the '89 I had and the job was much easier that > way. DON"T take them all the way off while they are in the triple clamp, > just loosen them. Got to Sears and buy a 3/8" "speed wrench". Looks like an old fashioned hand drill but has a thingy for 3/8" sockets on one end, and a "doorknob" on the other. Also available in 1/2". If Sears doesn't have one, buy a cheap one somewhere such as at a pawn shop. Its not a tool you will ever wear out. Put the appropriate socket on the speed wrench for the top plug of your fork. Don't remove the fork from the triple clamp. Use the "doorknob" to hold downward pressure. Remove the top fork cap. By holding "down" pressure on the cap, it won't fly away when it comes off. Don't hold down too hard, don't want to hurt the threads. Contrary to the other advise, I say take the cap completely off before you remove the fork leg. Usually there is a couple inches of compressed fork spring. Its easiest and safest to handle this while the fork is securely held by the triple clamp. This way you only have to deal with the fork cap as a variable in your equations. Typically the top fork cap is easy-to-strip aluminum. Its very important on reassembly not to cross the threads. The speed wrench makes the job easy as the "doorknob" allows you to hold everything straight when compressing the spring. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:49:49 EDT Subject: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... On the other hand.... Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. Kendall 95 PC on the breadline. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:20:47 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: KGray96057@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Kendall: Ouch! I hope the parting doesn't put you in a pinch. I left a four-year job to go to grad school . . . haven't regretted it yet. Good luck Joel Kopp Seattle Your fellow '95 Coaster KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". > > An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand > but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you > will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... > > On the other hand.... > > Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. > > Kendall > 95 PC on the breadline. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:39:10 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: Fenwick CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Rich Fenwick wrote: > > > To me, this kind of @#%^& gets annoying after a while. You know, I don't > give a care what color it is, just as long as it says "PACIFIC COAST" on the > side, and NOT Concours on the front, and DOESN'T have a BMW badge on the > fairing... > > If it's a PC, nothing else matters, right??? :-) > True enough! But color threads appear to be a part of the culture of this group; a running joke that no one appears to take seriously. Truth be known, I like all the colors of the PC, and probably actually prefer the beautiful candy apple red of the early 90's to any other (but I would never say that in front of my fellow black PC drivers). Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:56:31 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: CC: Subject: Re: PC800: ME880 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" >OK...so I just checked my tires....and I am unable to find the wear bars. I >have seen them before on other type of tires so I do have an idea what to >look for but these seem not to have any.... > >Anybody have any suggestions before I pull out a ruler! The wear bar is a legally-required raised area within the tread. It goes across the tire, from one side to the other. It's 1/16 in. tall, so when your tread depth wears down to the legal minimum, you see a solid black stripe across the tire, interrupting the tread. If you can't see it, you must not have worn the tires that far yet. I'd look for the wear bars with a close visual inspection, maybe including dragging a pen or pencil along the tread groove until I found the raised wear bar. That said, I think it behooves motorcyclists to change tires early - squeeking a few more miles out of a tire that might be less than adequate in rain is not a great idea. In addition, in my experience tires seldom wear completely evenly around the circumference. I've removed tires that seemed to have plenty of tread, but were actually down to the wear bars in one or two areas. best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: Odd Sighting To: Pacific Coast List Posting Hello All, Last night as I was riding home from work through a construction area, I passed a motorcycle going north on the same road. I only glimpsed him, but it appeared to be a black bike (maybe a BMW) with, what appeared to be a snow plow attached to his fron end, extending from the handlebars down in front of the front tire. I know it was not a snow plow (although the Green Bay area has been known to get some snow now and then!)but what was it? For the life of me, I have never seen anything like that before! Was it a reverse trike? Any ideas? Was I halllucinating thinking of the burgers on the grill for dinner? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:32:58 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Why the high prices on gas in Norway ? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:32:06 +0200 Hi, The price on 95 unleaded is today up to NOK 10.78 a litre (1 NOK =11 cent) If the price had remained at NOK 10 a litre this set-up shows where to money went: 1,63 production price 0,82 oil company profit 0,40 dealers profit 4.34 gas tax to the Norwegian state 0,94 CO2 tax to the Norwegian state 1,87 sales tax to the Norwegian state That is NOK 7,15 in taxes (71,5 %) !!! US citicens : Don't complain !!!!! I'm looking forward to fill up the tank with cheap norwegain petrol in the US in 2 weeks time !!!! Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:03:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed David Kelly writes: >...Put the appropriate socket on the speed wrench for the top plug of > your fork. SSD: Unlike most motorcycles, the fork caps on the PC don't take a socket, as they have a recessed, instead of raised hexagon, requiring a 17mm allen wrench, or makeshift tool that fits the recess in the fork cap. > ...Contrary to the other advise, I say take the cap completely off > before you remove the fork leg. Usually there is a couple inches of > compressed fork spring. SSD: At full extension, the PC spring is approximately flush with the top of the fork tube; there is very little preload. With the forks in place, it's somewhat difficult to remove the spring with dripping fork oil on the bodywork. > ...Typically the top fork cap is easy-to-strip aluminum. Its very > important on reassembly not to cross the threads. SSD: Very true, which is another reason I prefer pulling the fork tubes, rather than trying work with them in place. Part of the maintenance I did last year included adding 3/8" spacers to increase spring preload. With the extra preload, getting the fork caps back on took a little more effort, and was much easier with everything out in the open. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: , "Fenwick" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 06:10:28 -0700 and DOESN'T have a BMW badge on the > > fairing... > > > I wear a BMW riding suit, Rich....am I in trouble..... (I'll not mention its color) Lee Barker Willing to swap a few panels with someone with a different color bike... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:29:14 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id IAA02613 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:24:16 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09002 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:24:16 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08998 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:24:16 -0500 (CDT) /8.7.1) id IAA01863 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:24:15 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:24:15 -0500 "Re: PC800: Re: PC800 lawnmowers and motorcycles?" (Jun 6, 10:48pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 lawnmowers and motorcycles? X-WSS-ID: 152091A0477091-01-01 charset=us-ascii On Jun 6, 10:48pm, David Kelly wrote: > Speaking of Harley lawnmowers.... Honda makes a v-twin industrial > engine. If somebody was to take one of those, paint it black, throw lots > of chrome and gold and guadyness on it, make it vibrate, and tune the > exhaust to the right sound, and mount it on a lawnmower, I'd bet one > could sell quite a few. Actually, someone has. Yamaha. They call it the Royal Star, or some such. Nicest riding lawn mower I ever sat on, but aftermarket pipes are w a y too loud. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:35:21 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Grea Ned" CC: Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" ... >Lee Barker >Willing to swap a few panels with someone with a different color bike... Now THERE'S an idea for a rally! Randomly swap body pieces to see what color combinations you can get! We could even make it a timed field event. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 07:20:45 -0700 From: "Irene Frost" X-Sent-Mail: off Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. X-Sender-Ip: 216.26.7.220 Content-Language: en Wow, I am really sorry to hear that. Got laid off last year myself, but I got a package and I knew it was coming for months and that sucked bad enough. I really feel for you, it is like a death. I don't think we give job loss the respect it deserves as a major life change and painful event. At least they picked a good season. Enjoy the rides! Irene Frost -- On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:49:49 KGray96057 wrote: >Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". > >An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand >but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you >will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... > >On the other hand.... > >Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. > >Kendall >95 PC on the breadline. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:41:12 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id JAA14156 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:36:14 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10652 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:36:13 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10648 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:36:13 -0500 (CDT) /8.7.1) id JAA02413 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:36:13 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:36:13 -0500 "Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will." (Jun 7, 7:20am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. X-WSS-ID: 15208082495624-01-01 charset=us-ascii It happened to me about six years ago. In the middle of a local mini-depression. I wasn't calm enough to take advantage of the opportunity for long rides either. Enjoy! Now the good news. The change was the best thing I've ever done. Much, much better job, tremendous people to work with, management that thinks I'm wonderful (don't tell them, please!) oh, lots more money too. AND, I get this really neato hotrod HP workstation to play with. I should have quit long before! Mazel Tov! Bon Suerte! Good Luck! Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:07:01 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Why the high prices on gas in Norway ? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:05:39 +0200 \ Hi, The price on 95 unleaded is today up to NOK 10.78 a litre (1 NOK =11 cent) If the price had remained at NOK 10 a litre this set-up shows where to money went: 1,63 production price 0,82 oil company profit 0,40 dealers profit 4.34 gas tax to the Norwegian state 0,94 CO2 tax to the Norwegian state 1,87 sales tax to the Norwegian state That is NOK 7,15 in taxes (71,5 %) !!! US citicens : Don't complain !!!!! I'm looking forward to fill up the tank with cheap norwegain petrol in the US in 2 weeks time !!!! Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:20:05 -0700 Kendall: No sweat. The next one will pay better and probably have a better environment anyway,IF you can keep riding and hold out for a good one. As you probably know: Stay away from any company that always seems to be hiring - they are just tempting Dilbert traps. The good ones are the companies we have never seen an ad for before, in the 20 to 100 employees range. There is just no loyalty in corporations anymore. They are driven by realities that supercede individuals. In that kind of environment, the best strategy is know when to stay and when to move on. There is no gold watch out there, but there ARE still enormous differences between employers. The best way we can all encourage good employers is to choose NOT to subsidize the bad ones with our presence. The earlier they recognize a turnover problem the earlier they will (may) reform. I am happy where I am at now, and I have been happy before, but there were some real loosers I should'nt have taken along the way. Good luck and please keep us posted. Jeff Krause 95 PC "800 Mhz"(3.3V) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com [mailto:KGray96057@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:50 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... On the other hand.... Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. Kendall 95 PC on the breadline. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:36:37 EDT Subject: PC800: job offer To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu There are several sites out there that seem to do a good job providing listings. Dice. com and flipdog.com. I'm getting a lot of basic research from both sites- good leads- and I recommend both. I _have_ noticed, however, that the email application process does not work very well. No one seems to be reading these. If there is a phone number or a fax... That always seems to work better. Currently, my last company's competition has three managers bidding for my services.... Pretty cool. Hopefully I will get a job before that box of Jiffy corn bread starts to look good... Thanks for the support, my friends... Kendall 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Kendall, et.al; It happened to me, for the first time, on 12/15/98, yep, just a couple of weeks before Christmas, (and just 1 week after receiving my gift for my 10-year anniversary!) I was unemployed for a long time...but, one thing I can tell you is that you may not get in the all-day rides like you might otherwise hope. They say that looking for a job is a job in itself, and for me it was true. (Especially, if you're a "white-collar" worker, like me.) I was always afraid of leaving the house for too long, for fear of missing that all-important phone call offering me my dream-job. If you want to take any long rides during your now free mid-week, plan it 2 weeks in advance and don't miss it. No matter how torturously long your job search lasts, once you find one, you wonder why you didn't accomplish all those activities while you "had the time". By the way, if you'd like some help with your resume, just let me know... ...Darth Beau 1994 Black PC800 "Emperor Palpatine" ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: June 7, 2000 4:49:49 AM GMT Subject: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... On the other hand.... Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. Kendall 95 PC on the breadline. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Swapping body parts.... Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:17:37 PDT ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" ... >Lee Barker >Willing to swap a few panels with someone with a different color bike... When I took the ST in for its 600-miler at CycleMetrics, Gary rummaged around in his storeroom and found some panels from a '91 ST (Silver). He said I should swap 'em on the black ST and really freak out other ST riders... I WILL do it! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:32:08 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com >Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". Kendall, my sympathies. Doesn't sound like you're taking it personally, though. Don't. It used to be the Kiss of Death in a career to be "severed", now it's Business As Usual. Others have summarized it well already. 500,000 mid-level management jobs a year have been eliminated by businesses since the early '90s. I was "downsized" in '95 while recovering from open heart surgery. I looked at it as an opportunity, and never looked back. OBTW, I also rode 28K in the year following the LOJ. So it must have been an "opportunity to ride"! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: job offer Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:34:53 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com >Currently, my last company's competition has three managers bidding for my >services....Pretty cool. Hopefully I will get a job before that box of >Jiffy corn bread starts to look good... NO, KENDALL! DON'T DO IT! THROW OFF THE SHACKLES--Oh, did you say the Jiffy corn bread is starting to look good? OhMyGawd, son, take the first offer that comes along! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: MCN Articles Online Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:37:30 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer >Several posts to this list in the past year would have been helped by the following articles that are currently available on the Motorcycle Consumer News web site: Good call, Selden! MCN is a GREAT resource for tech and non-tech info. Their recent articles on hearing loss and motorcycling convinced me to get custom-made musicians' earplugs. I have all issues going back 10 years, and some of them are getting dog-eared... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wear Bars Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:43:18 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" >OK...so I just checked my tires....and I am unable to find the wear bars. I >have seen them before on other type of tires so I do have an idea what to >look for but these seem not to have any. They are the Dunlops K55 front and >rear...rear looks ok but the front will probably need to be replaced soon. >Anybody have any suggestions before I pull out a ruler! If they're 555's, Greg, they're there. I usually don't even notice 'em until the tire's down to 'em, but they're there! I just burned off a rear 555 in 7500 miles; the wear bars are definitely there. Since the front was still in great shape I went ahead and put a 555 on the back again. Hope it lasts longer...even though John @ Taylor Honda says anything over 6K is a bonus on most tires. I've always gotten over 10K on mine, though. Maybe the last time was an anomoly. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:11:03 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 amdint2.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/AMD) with ESMTP id PAA05975 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:05 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19332 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:04 -0500 (CDT) mopac.amd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19328 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:04 -0500 (CDT) /8.7.1) id PAA04765 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:04 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:03 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Not color X-WSS-ID: 152073DD582253-01-01 charset=us-ascii I just sent a note like this one to Kendall, and then got the bright idea that some of the rest of you all might possibly be interested too. At least it's not about color! My division of AMD will be sold to a private investor group soon, who intends to take us public as soon as they can make a real company out of us. When that happens, those who are on board as of IPO will share in some rather nice stock options as well as other incentives, as well as a very nice regular paycheck. We are a 15 year old group that is among the industry leaders in our business (central telephone company integrated circuits). 1st 1/4 2000 gross sales were in excess of $50 million dollars (US). We have seen nice, neat 30% a year growth for the last 15 years. This is not a fly-by-night 3 guys in a garage IPO. Because of a 3 year hiring freeze and 2 rounds of layoffs by AMD, our division (which was not affected by the sales downturn that caused the layoffs; we were included so that the other groups wouldn't feel bad) is terribly understaffed. In addition, we need to add a personnel office, accountants, sales force of our own, all those things that real companies need if they don't have Corporate to do it for them. THE POINT Do you want to get in on this? Ground floor of an IPO that a year before going public, has over $200 million sales? It's a tremendous opportunity if you are an Electrical Engineer or related fields. In particular, we need people who understand analog and bipolar. That common digital CMOS stuff is ok too. If you're interested, email me directly. No, I'm not a recruiter. I do layout. Yes, I will get an award for turning in relevant resumes. Yes, I promise not to post anything like this to this list again. I understand that this is not a recruitment group. I wouldn't have done it at all if Kendall hadn't got me to thinkin. By the way, mine's red. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tom Boles To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: A small field report on Honda of Milpitas Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:58:57 -0700 So- I work about 10 minutes from HoM, and since I am slowly stripping my '90 to the point I can get to the turn signal flasher and the position lamp relay, I thought I'd drive over & buy an air cleaner in case I needed one. Reading somewhere that a new air cleaner would set me back $55 bucks, I was VERY surprised when the total came to $40.93! I clearly will be buying my parts from HoM! News- They sold the '89 PC800 I saw there 3 weeks ago. I was told that two of their employees own PC's. (Suggests that the service department speaks Pacific Coast) Tom Boles SF Bay '90 PC noname -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Wear Bars Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:19:45 -0700 Greg, Look on the tire sidewall, near the tread, for a small triangle. The wear bars will be opposite the triangle, in one of the tread grooves near the centerline of the tire. On the 555's, if you havent reached them yet, they are an almost unpercieveable little bump in the tread groove. It is sometimes easier to feel for them than to spot them by eye. I have a little over 18K on my 555's ('96) and I still have a little way to go before I hit the wear bars. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 17.5k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Tim Macy > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:43 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Wear Bars > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Greg Castle" > > >OK...so I just checked my tires....and I am unable to find the wear bars. I > >have seen them before on other type of tires so I do have an idea what to > >look for but these seem not to have any. They are the Dunlops K55 front and > >rear...rear looks ok but the front will probably need to be replaced soon. > >Anybody have any suggestions before I pull out a ruler! > > If they're 555's, Greg, they're there. I usually don't even notice 'em until > the tire's down to 'em, but they're there! I just burned off a rear 555 in > 7500 miles; the wear bars are definitely there. Since the front was still in > great shape I went ahead and put a 555 on the back again. Hope it lasts > longer...even though John @ Taylor Honda says anything over 6K is a bonus on > most tires. I've always gotten over 10K on mine, though. Maybe the last time > was an anomoly. > > Tim "Scuffy" Macy > Newberg, OR > > Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) > STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) > > AMA #492485 > HRCA #239441 > HSTA #6030 > RCMC > STOC #1571 > > "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in > this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in > this century." - Former Vice President Dan Quayle > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:18:01 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: The only "correct" color PC for sale Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:15:20 +0200 This came just up on the GWRRA for sale page: For Sale Pacific Coast - McHenry, IL 15:03:23 6/07/00 1989 PC with only 15,000 miles. Pearl White, great condition, kept in heated garage. Recent tires, brakes, battery and complete tune up. Has CB Radio with same hook-up as Gold Wing and amplifier for tunes through dash speakers. Has original windshield plus taller Rifle model. Outlet for electric vest, wind wings.-- Wife has lost interest in riding and will become a passenger on my Gold Wing. Great bike! $3,800.00 (815) 759-1116 for info. wing 41@ Imaxx.net Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil Change Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 16:58:07 PDT >From: J Serlo >My question without creating an oil thread is what wt and type oil are most >using. I use nothing but Honda GN4 and Honda filters. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "Motorcyclists know why dogs hang their heads out car windows." Randle Bains ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:18:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards To: pcstarship@home.com, sge2000@att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: markieg@wowzer.com In a message dated 6/6/00 8:50:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, pcstarship@home.com writes: << Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... >> Sure, even buzzards know what the best color to be is. Black! :) Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:20:31 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... To: rfenwick@core.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/6/00 9:06:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, rfenwick@core.com writes: << If it's a PC, nothing else matters, right??? :-) >> You are right Rich. Time for me and the rest of us to give it a rest I suppose. Say, what is the best kind of oil to use? Anybody know? Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:11:45 -0500 From: Tony Miller To: KGray96057@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Yes, it happened to me about 5 years ago, but things worked out pretty well. Judging from this thread, I guess motorcycle riders get the ax a lot! Good luck in your job search! Tony KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > > Lost my job this past week. Called in to the old office and "severed". > > An interesting feeling... Walking out of a five year job with nothing in hand > but boxes. Leaving your desk, your work place friends... Knowing that you > will never again be able to engage in those cozy little BS sessions... > > On the other hand.... > > Being able to ride all day long on a gorgeous summer day isn't all that bad. > > Kendall > 95 PC on the breadline. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:45:03 -0700 Say, what is the best kind of oil to use? Anybody know? > > Russ > -- I just went out and checked the color of my oil...... Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVTC2I03.RUH for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:56:42 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:53:49 -0500 AAARRRGH! Can't we all just get along? ;-) Rich > > Say, what is the best kind of oil to use? Anybody know? > > > > Russ > > -- > > I just went out and checked the color of my oil...... > > Lee > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:03:51 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:03:49 -0500 > In a message dated 6/6/00 8:50:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, > pcstarship@home.com writes: > > << Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... >> > Sure, even buzzards know what the best color to be is. Black! :) > > Russ Vernon OOOOOOOkeyDokeeee....how about: Hey beats the hell out of the oil thread... ---Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC 800 List From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed of "Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:03:12 EDT." Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:57:17 -0500 Selden Deemer writes: > David Kelly writes: > > >...Put the appropriate socket on the speed wrench for the top plug of > > your fork. > > SSD: Unlike most motorcycles, the fork caps on the PC don't take a > socket, as they have a recessed, instead of raised hexagon, > requiring a 17mm allen wrench, or makeshift tool that fits > the recess in the fork cap. You can get a 17mm allen wrench socket. Or stack nuts on a bolt to make a regular socket work. My point being a speed wrench is the perfect tool for holding the fork cap down. > > ...Contrary to the other advise, I say take the cap completely off > > before you remove the fork leg. Usually there is a couple inches of > > compressed fork spring. > > SSD: At full extension, the PC spring is approximately flush with the > top of the fork tube; there is very little preload. With the > forks in place, it's somewhat difficult to remove the spring > with dripping fork oil on the bodywork. Didn't mean to suggest removing the springs with the fork still installed. But I would remove the caps before removing the forks. > > ...Typically the top fork cap is easy-to-strip aluminum. Its very > > important on reassembly not to cross the threads. > > SSD: Very true, which is another reason I prefer pulling the fork > tubes, rather than trying work with them in place. Part of the > maintenance I did last year included adding 3/8" spacers to > increase spring preload. With the extra preload, getting the > fork caps back on took a little more effort, and was much easier > with everything out in the open. And that's exactly why I recommend reinstalling the fork caps with the forks held in the triple clamp. Honda has already provided the World's Best PC Fork Holder, your PC. No shop vise can compare. As with any tool, the order you apply the tools is important. There is one case on some motorcycles where this causes a problem: when the fork caps are under or blocked by the handlebars. In that case its still easiest to remove the handlebar clamps so you can move the handlebars out of the way, than to rig a vise to hold the fork tubes while you remove the fork caps. If you are disassembling the entire fork there is a bolt inserted from the bottom that is best to loosen while the tube is clamped solidly on the bike. Another allen head. One I dread. If it doesn't come loose fairly easily then you stand a good chance of boogering it up if you don't use an air wrench to bust it loose. I wouldn't remove the bottom bolt with the fork on the bike. Then again if you have it up high enough you might be able to remove the bottom sliders, drain, refill, and reassemble without removing the fork tubes or the top caps. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "PC 800 List" , "David Kelly" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:21:31 -0700 FWIW I used the 17mm bolt head with a set of Jam nuts when I did min. Worked well. Holding the cap down was not a problem. A little hard on the fingers, but not an obstacle. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly To: PC 800 List Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fork Seal Help Needed >Selden Deemer writes: >> David Kelly writes: >> >> >...Put the appropriate socket on the speed wrench for the top plug of >> > your fork. >> >> SSD: Unlike most motorcycles, the fork caps on the PC don't take a >> socket, as they have a recessed, instead of raised hexagon, >> requiring a 17mm allen wrench, or makeshift tool that fits >> the recess in the fork cap. > >You can get a 17mm allen wrench socket. Or stack nuts on a bolt to make >a regular socket work. My point being a speed wrench is the perfect >tool for holding the fork cap down. > >> > ...Contrary to the other advise, I say take the cap completely off >> > before you remove the fork leg. Usually there is a couple inches of >> > compressed fork spring. >> >> SSD: At full extension, the PC spring is approximately flush with the >> top of the fork tube; there is very little preload. With the >> forks in place, it's somewhat difficult to remove the spring >> with dripping fork oil on the bodywork. > >Didn't mean to suggest removing the springs with the fork still >installed. But I would remove the caps before removing the forks. > >> > ...Typically the top fork cap is easy-to-strip aluminum. Its very >> > important on reassembly not to cross the threads. >> >> SSD: Very true, which is another reason I prefer pulling the fork >> tubes, rather than trying work with them in place. Part of the >> maintenance I did last year included adding 3/8" spacers to >> increase spring preload. With the extra preload, getting the >> fork caps back on took a little more effort, and was much easier >> with everything out in the open. > >And that's exactly why I recommend reinstalling the fork caps with the >forks held in the triple clamp. Honda has already provided the World's >Best PC Fork Holder, your PC. No shop vise can compare. As with any >tool, the order you apply the tools is important. > >There is one case on some motorcycles where this causes a problem: when >the fork caps are under or blocked by the handlebars. In that case its >still easiest to remove the handlebar clamps so you can move the >handlebars out of the way, than to rig a vise to hold the fork tubes >while you remove the fork caps. > >If you are disassembling the entire fork there is a bolt inserted from >the bottom that is best to loosen while the tube is clamped solidly on >the bike. Another allen head. One I dread. If it doesn't come loose >fairly easily then you stand a good chance of boogering it up if you >don't use an air wrench to bust it loose. > >I wouldn't remove the bottom bolt with the fork on the bike. Then again >if you have it up high enough you might be able to remove the bottom >sliders, drain, refill, and reassemble without removing the fork tubes >or the top caps. > >-- >David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net >===================================================================== >The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its >capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:36:20 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 03:36:18 +0000 Ah, my friend, you are overlooking the most rare, most highly-sought, most priceless albino buzzard! Kind of an upper-echelon raptor, in sort of a cream-ish, champagne-ish color, with a few insignificant quirks (mostly electrical) that serve merely to enhance the magnificent bird's personality! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > In a message dated 6/6/00 8:50:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, > pcstarship@home.com writes: > > << Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... >> > Sure, even buzzards know what the best color to be is. Black! :) > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:39:46 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:54:13 -0400 Haven't had the Stator problem yet, but it is worth whatever it takes to keep that beautiful pearl white machine and not have to opt for one of those 'other' colors ; ) Bill Jarrells 89 'Quasimodo' -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net To: PC800 List Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net >Youse guys are so sad, with your incessant bickering >about trivial cosmetic issues! We all know that in all >significant ways but one, PC's are identical. EXCEPT >for the '89! Keep an '89 going for awhile, and you get >an education in electrical engineering AND economics (or >at least personal financial management)! ;>) > >(To all you other '89 owners out there, my apologies, >and no slam intended. I love my '89, even with its >little stator quirks, etc.!) > >-- >Steve Ewens >Lee's Summit, MO >89 PC800 > > > >> > Don't you listen to him Sandy! It is a proven fact that the red (and off-red) >> > models tend to make the mind soft. In worse case, even makes the person buy >> > bizarre motorcycles such as the ST1100. Dont let this happen to you! Get >> > yourself a Black one! Your mind will thank you for it. >> > >> > Russ Vernon >> > 95 PC800 >> >> Soften my mind? According to my offspring, my mind has already been softened >> so badly that it's probably located somewhere around my waist by now. They >> should know. They're the prime cause, not red tupperware. Another good reason >> to wear a helmet? >> >> The only part of my anatomy my RED PC800 is softening is my butt. >> >> Revill Dunn >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:54:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:08:45 -0400 I don't know about that. My speedo is off a couple miles per hour at 65 (indicates about 67.5) and I have had the thing to an indicated 117mph. At best I figure the bike was doing about 110. So, at least for my experience, the quoted figures are pretty close. Must be the pearl white that makes it so slippery ; ) Bill Jarrells 89 'Quasimodo' -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com To: morttis@ix.netcom.com ; timbmacy@hotmail.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:59 PM Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing >In a message dated 6/5/00 9:31:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, >morttis@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< Make that a 107+mph scooter! At least time I checked. > >> >Wishful thinking. The PC is just as bad as most other bikes about having >optimistic speedometers at higher speeds. I too have had mine at that range, >but doubt seriously if it was even going 100. No biggie though. Fast enough >for me. Funny, just a few years ago it would not have been near fast enough. >Wonder why that is? > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:58:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:13:15 -0400 A buddy of mine rides a V Max. He has constantly ragged on me for the bike I ride. Last weekend he asked me to swap off for a ride (about 85 miles of twisties). The ride pretty much shut him up. He kept remarking about how light the PC was. I explained that the bike is about 620lb. He couldn't belive it. He figured about 475lb. He also loved the comfort, roominess, and handling. He hasn't sold the V Max yet, but he is looking. Bill Jarrells 89 'Quasimodo' -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com To: timbmacy@hotmail.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:25 AM Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 - The "Scooter" thing >Hm. > >I went to one of those trough-buffet places over the holiday weekend, and The >World's Cutest Old Man(tm) spent about a half hour talking about my massive >Honda Helix. > >"What kinda engine they put in there- must be about a 400." >"800 V Twin." >"Boy, that's practically a motorcycle." > > >KcG >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:55:46 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: Tim Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: MCN Articles Online Tim Macy wrote: > Good call, Selden! MCN is a GREAT resource for tech and non-tech info. Their > recent articles on hearing loss and motorcycling convinced me to get > custom-made musicians' earplugs. Tim: Wait a second . . . you use earplugs on a PC??? On one of the quietest motorcycles ever made??? I've had dishwashers that make more noise than my PC. Or do you only wear them for the ST? Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Cc: "Susan Crowder" , "Randy Cope at ABB" , "Norman Myers" , "Nicole Heinze" , "Nelson S. Buhatem" , "Mark Anton" , "Len Sese" , "Larry Costello" , "Kris Kiefer" , "Kathy Dilts at AOL" , "JW Witters" , "Jack Best" , "Dan Wagner" , "Christine Spruill" , "Chris Rightsell" , "Bill Ford - WVBikers" , "Art Alba" Subject: PC800: Non-PC but you can't let it side when its your mom. Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:09:24 -0400 I don't know about the rest of you folks, but if you have ever forgotten = your mom's birthday it is not a pleasant event and it's not going to = matter that you are 600 miles away and in another state. Last Thursday, like any good son, I made arrangement to have fresh = Tulips delivered to my mom the day before her birthday. She seems to = prefer the day before, so she can enjoy them all during the next day and = can mention to the other mothers that she associates with, how nice her = flowers are, that came just yesterday.=20 I, of course, used the internet to order the flowers. I simply went to = www.Yahoo.com and clicked flowers. In just a few key strokes my order = was placed and sure to arrive the before her birthday. Now, like any = good son, I chat with my folks every few days and was surprised of not = hearing about any flowers. I surely called home on her birthday day, = with all the right wishes, she was 39, again, yet no mention of the = flowers. Finally I had to ask if they had arrived. "No, I haven't seen = any flowers, this year", she replied. "Ok, mom, good by for now, so I = can check this out." Like any good internet shopper I printed my order so I had all the = details. It turns out that Yahoo doesn't actually do any flower = processing. They simply forward the request to something called = www.Proflowers.com, an exclusive arrangement, I'm sure. I contacted = those folks by telephone to find the status of my order. After several = attempts under my name, her name, city, state, zip and finally the order = number the customer service guy said, "I bet I know what happened, can I = put you on hold for a second and when were they supposed to be = delivered?" "Yesterday", I replied. A few moments passed, as he returned to the phone and said, "Sorry sir, but you order didn't get processed. Some of the Yahoo = software isn't compatible with our system, so next time please just come = directly to www.Proflowers.com and we will get your flowers delivered = properly." Then he said, "Seeing as how these didn't get processed, = would you like to re order now?" Hummmmm.....After a few minutes chat = we decided that 3 things were going to happen. The order was going to = be delivered within 48 hours, the fee was going to be waived and an = apology to my mom was going to accompany the delivery. I got back on the phone with mom to try to explain what had happened and = that they would arrive in two days and ......... though she didn't say = it in these terms "She didn't give a tinkers damn about the internet, = Yahoo and Proflowers." Everybody else in the country can order flowers = and they seem to arrive, ok" So what is a son to do. Simply this. Please forward this note to every = son or daughter you know who could be thinking of using Yahoo or = Proflowers in the near future. I don't think they would appreciate = their mom being upset. =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Oil... Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:20:54 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com >Say, what is the best kind of oil to use? Anybody know? THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!! Okay, that takes care of all of the disclaimers--I'm NOT going to start another one-upmanship-thread! After extensive reading on the subject years ago and especially after an MCN article on the subject, I switched to MOBIL 1 15-50 at about 10K. Been happy ever since. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:42:02 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Non-PC but you can't let it side when its your mom. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu A typical example of lousy customer service- my field, as it happens. Unfortunately, this sort of thing is all too common: A service is announced, introduced and unleashed to public use with significant problems. When one of these problems is encountered by a prospective customer, the company offering the service wants to do little, save offer a thin apology. Good for you for sticking to your guns, there. If this kind of miscue is common, so, I am afraid, is being a poor customer. In addition to lousy service, there is a lack of understanding of the role and rights of being a customer floating around these days. People are either far too rude for the situation- as was the woman I saw at Taco Bell tonight, screaming about some sort of mysterious white gunk in her Chalupa- or far too nice... As was my friend Christina when I suggested returning the Pur water filter system that turned out to have been previously used. (She figured that the giant chain store that sold it to her would likely give her a simple certificate for the value of the item. I walked in to the service area with her, explained the situation, and asked for a replacement, rather than a certificate. The woman at the counter consented. When the only availible replacement turned out _not_ to have all of the add-ons that her item came with, I asked if we could simply take the add-ons with the new filter. The clerk wasn't sure, and offered to call a manager. Christina demurred, but I agreed. And the manager, after listening to the story, simply pulled the used filter from the box, dropped the new one in and called it even. Doesn't seem much, but it made the customer happy, cost the store little, and made me change from the location I'd been frequenting to this one. Well done.) I recently -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:36:44 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Off list , ride to Italian Rally in Olden, Norway Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:32:20 +0200 Hi, In a couple of hours time, Vidar and myself are off to Olden (distance 500km) for the spring meet Italian Rally. Torill is a usual on the platform in the North Sea, bringing in the money for us to do that ;-) The Randaberg MC-Club will attend in large numbers this year too. The clubmembers was helping out last year when we arranged the rally here in Stavanger and enjoyed it so much that even they are all (mostly) anglophiles (riding old english bikes) , will come along just to experience the good food and homemade beer. The group in Olden is famous for making their beer !! They normally have a deer or two on the BBQ , a net fishing stunt from the lake shore for trout and salted herring and smoked deer hearts for appetizers !! There will be only 3 or 4 italian bikes among the gang from Randaberg who will be about 12 bikes strong. We will be back on Monday, making the house chores, so we are ready to entertain Emile and his two friends coming from Holland on Tuesday. That will be nice ! Hopefully We can ride the Lysebotn road in sunshine this year. Emile did'nt see any of the 36 hairpin bends last year !!! (Pic's from last year on how it was and how it looks in sunshine here: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~emile/norway2.html ) If the weather is good on Tuesday night I will get hold of a heap of fresh crabs , cook them myself and have a crab party on the deck in the evening :-) Arvid alvik@chello.no PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1990 PC800 Jap-Can Edition Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 00:21:35 PDT Hi PCers! The subject tells a lie, Honda made Japanese Edition PC, Canadian Edition PC but never made any Jap-Can Edition PCs. That is my edition. 2 months ago, a NISSAN challenged the durability of both my PC and the rider - me. Of course the NISSAN won, ended up with the whole left side of the PC gone, with my both knees & left elbow scuffed, and minor back & shoulder pains plus sick leaves for 14 days. The good thing is that I couldn't find any excuses not to carry out a major refinishing/recondition to my '90 Candy Glory PC, since I had to repair the damages. What I had done are : Sand blasted and then powder coated both center and side stands, Sand blasted and then powder coated radiator grill, replace radiator grill mounting screws with stainless steel ones, replace bar end weights with polished stainless steel ones, Sand blasted and then powder coated the passenger backrest mountings, replace stock seat with Japanese edition seats, replace passenger back rest mounting screws with stainless steel ones, new rubbers, New rubber springs inside trunk lid, new front wheel bearing (1), polish both wheel inside out, new chrome muffler cover, sand blasted and then repainted rear brake drum housing, new bumpers plus stainless steel mounting bolts, replace all damage tupperware, repaint all scratched tupperware which is repairable, repaint all unscratched tupperware on clear coating only, install Japanese edition stock light switch, clean EVERYTHING top to bottom, inside out. The most interesting part is putting the light switch. After studied into details, I found export model PCs are designed to cut-off the headlight power as start button pressed, while Japanese domestic edition won't do that. The headlight only controlled by the light switch. I decided to keep both feature by switching the headlight power after the start replay contact. I also skip the instrument lights from being switched together with tail/position lights, they remained energized full time. The part # for the light switch is 35150-MR5-621, as wiring is different you'll need a replacement harness 35131-MR5-830 but I suggest to modify the harness by putting 3 more wires to do the job instead of replacing it. Try imagine how many things to remove before you can take out the harness! The switch assy. is snap on that you'll have to cut a square hole on the right bar cover for the switch. Remember the rectangular mark right above the starter switch? That's it! For Japanese Ed., the switch is flush mounted that I have to cut a hole exact the size of the switch and then prepare another mount plate stick from inside of the bar cover with another cut hole at size of the switch footprint - I want a 100% stock look. This may not make sense for North America bikers as full time running light is the National law but just when you have a weak battery, right jump started and then sitting in traffic you'll find the light switch is very very helpful. Anyway, my Jap-Can Ed. PC is beautiful, looks like new and is unique. Besides, somebody said the bar raise is different between Jap and export models. Wrong! They're exactly the same, as bar covers are exchangable. Only Japanese stock shields are about 2' shorter and are made with MITSUBISHI Lexan. Just so happy with my "re-borned" PC and want to share with you guys. It is now sitting in a wooded crate floating on Pacific Ocean heading to Vancouver BC of Canada. Hey Will, care for a ride with me by end of this month? - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 Hong Kong Auxiliary Police Force Long Service Medal - 2000 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 23 Chinese Water Dragons ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:21:46 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC 800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Off list , ride to Italian Rally in Olden, Norway Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:21:44 +0200 > From: Arvid L=F8vik[SMTP:alvik@chello.no] > Hopefully We can ride the Lysebotn road in sunshine this year. Emile > did'nt > see any of the 36 hairpin bends last year !!! > (Pic's from last year on how it was and how it looks in sunshine here: > http://www.cybercomm.nl/~emile/norway2.html ) >=20 I certainly hope it's gonna look as good as the picture, looking forward already. I spent the weekend on the bike with friends riding in Luxembourg, very very nice. I hope to have pics online tonight. BTW, I got rid of the cybercomm provider some time ago (had to pay for them...), that page should now be at http://emile.itgo.com/norway2.html Emile '92 www.st1100.net ABS/TCS "Eclipse" www.piloot.com http://go.to/pc800 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged mate= rial intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are= notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, co= pied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or at= tachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received = this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail= , and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), it= s subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect o= r incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsibl= e for any delay in receipt. ********************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Philips Wong" , Subject: Re: PC800: 1990 PC800 Jap-Can Edition Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:34:42 -0700 You betcha I am ready for a ride, just let me know. And if you need another pick up at the airport let me know. This time we will take the Blaine boarder crossing so the guards won't ask so many questions. More important, glad to hear you are OK and healing up. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Philips Wong >2 months ago, a NISSAN challenged the durability of both my PC and >the rider - me. Of course the NISSAN won, ended up with the whole >left side of the PC gone, with my both knees & left elbow scuffed, >and minor back & shoulder pains plus sick leaves for 14 days. > >Hey Will, care for a ride with me by end of this month? > >- Philips Wong -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:02:25 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Non-PC but you can't let it side when its your mom. Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:02:24 +0000 Lousy customer service is your field? Now THAT sounds like a fun job! ;-) -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > A typical example of lousy customer service- my field, as it happens. > > Unfortunately, this sort of thing is all too common: A service is announced, > introduced and unleashed to public use with significant problems. When one of > these problems is encountered by a prospective customer, the company offering > the service wants to do little, save offer a thin apology. > > Good for you for sticking to your guns, there. If this kind of miscue is > common, so, I am afraid, is being a poor customer. In addition to lousy > service, there is a lack of understanding of the role and rights of being a > customer floating around these days. People are either far too rude for the > situation- as was the woman I saw at Taco Bell tonight, screaming about some > sort of mysterious white gunk in her Chalupa- or far too nice... As was my > friend Christina when I suggested returning the Pur water filter system that > turned out to have been previously used. > > (She figured that the giant chain store that sold it to her would likely give > her a simple certificate for the value of the item. I walked in to the > service area with her, explained the situation, and asked for a replacement, > rather than a certificate. The woman at the counter consented. When the only > availible replacement turned out _not_ to have all of the add-ons that her > item came with, I asked if we could simply take the add-ons with the new > filter. The clerk wasn't sure, and offered to call a manager. Christina > demurred, but I agreed. And the manager, after listening to the story, simply > pulled the used filter from the box, dropped the new one in and called it > even. Doesn't seem much, but it made the customer happy, cost the store > little, and made me change from the location I'd been frequenting to this > one. Well done.) > > > I recently > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spruill, Christine (TPM)" To: Dallas Thomason , PC800-List Cc: Susan Crowder , Randy Cope at ABB , Norman Myers , Nicole Heinze , "Nelson S. Buhatem" , Mark Anton , Len Sese , Larry Costello , Kris Kiefer , Kathy Dilts at AOL , JW Witters , Jack Best , Dan Wagner , Christine Spruill , Chris Rightsell , Bill Ford - WVBikers , Art Alba Subject: PC800: RE: Non-PC but you can't let it side when its your mom. Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:14:06 -0400 Dallas, I agree with your Mom, all this "new way of doing things with this technology" may be okay for some things, but don't mess with Mom when = its her day with this "new way". I guess you now remember the old "fashion = way", the telephone!! Thanks for the info. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dallas Thomason [SMTP:Dallas@us.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:09 AM > To: PC800-List > Cc: Susan Crowder; Randy Cope at ABB; Norman Myers; Nicole Heinze; > Nelson S. Buhatem; Mark Anton; Len Sese; Larry Costello; Kris Kiefer; > Kathy Dilts at AOL; JW Witters; Jack Best; Dan Wagner; Christine = Spruill; > Chris Rightsell; Bill Ford - WVBikers; Art Alba > Subject: Non-PC but you can't let it side when its your mom.=20 >=20 > I don't know about the rest of you folks, but if you have ever = forgotten > your mom's birthday it is not a pleasant event and it's not going to > matter that you are 600 miles away and in another state. > =A0 > Last Thursday, like any good son, I made arrangement to have fresh = Tulips > delivered to my mom the day before her birthday.=A0 She seems to = prefer the > day before, so she can enjoy them all during the next day and can = mention > to the other mothers that she associates with, how nice her flowers = are, > that came just yesterday.=A0 > =A0 > I, of course, used the internet to order the flowers.=A0 I simply = went to > www.Yahoo.com and clicked flowers.=A0 In just = a few > key strokes my order was placed and sure to arrive the before=A0her > birthday.=A0 Now, like any good son, I chat with my folks every few = days and > was surprised of not hearing about any=A0flowers.=A0 I surely called = home on > her birthday day, with all the right wishes, she was 39, again, yet = no > mention of the flowers.=A0 Finally=A0I had to ask if they had = arrived.=A0 "No, I > haven't seen any flowers,=A0 this year", she replied.=A0 "Ok, mom, = good by=A0for > now, so I can check this out." > =A0 > Like any good internet shopper=A0I printed my order so I had all the > details.=A0 It turns out that Yahoo doesn't actually do any flower > processing.=A0=A0They simply forward the request to something called > www.Proflowers.com , an exclusive > arrangement,=A0I'm sure.=A0 I=A0contacted those folks by=A0telephone = to find the > status of my order.=A0 After several attempts under my name, her = name, city, > state,=A0zip and finally the order number the customer service guy = said, "I > bet I know what happened, can I put you on hold for a second and when = were > they supposed to be delivered?" "Yesterday", I replied. > =A0 > A=A0few moments passed, as he returned to the phone=A0and said, > =A0 > "Sorry sir, but you order=A0didn't get processed.=A0 Some=A0of the = Yahoo > =A0software isn't compatible with our system, so = next time > please just come directly to www.Proflowers.com > and we will get your flowers delivered > properly."=A0=A0Then he said, "Seeing as how these didn't get = processed, would > you like to re order now?"=A0 Hummmmm.....After a few minutes chat we > decided that 3 things were going to happen.=A0 The order was going to = be > delivered within 48 hours, the fee was going to be waived and an = apology > to my mom was going to accompany the delivery. > =A0 > I got back on the phone with mom to try to explain what had happened = and > that they would arrive in two days and .........=A0 though she didn't = say it > in these terms "She=A0didn't give a tinkers damn about the internet, = Yahoo > and Proflowers."=A0 Everybody else in the country can order flowers = and they > seem to arrive, ok" > =A0 > So what is a son to do.=A0 Simply this.=A0 Please=A0forward this note = to every > son or daughter you=A0 know who could=A0be thinking of using Yahoo or > Proflowers in the near future.=A0 I don't think they would appreciate = their > mom being upset. > =A0 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 > _______________ > Dallas Thomason > 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" > Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Wear Bars Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 07:44:18 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth >I have a little over 18K on my 555's ('96) and I still have a little way to >go before I hit the wear bars. Uh, Peter, when was the last time you were on the "wild side" of 40mph? Actually, I once got over 19K on a set of 555's. That's why 7500 miles was hard to take! I don't see any evidence of the rear shocks going bad, but I'm getting Works Performance shocks anyway. That will probably help bring the mileage back up, since we use the PC for so much 2-up riding. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fred Lamoureux" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:55:53 -0400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Fred Lamoureux" Only in BLACK can the PC turly live up to it's STEALTH design. James Bond would have rode a BLACK PC. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, > DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > > << there were several that appeared to be > worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, > mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> > Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 models) > feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel better > about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all the > PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of the > best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have one! > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:11:09 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net To: flamoureux@snet.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu ooh yeah! well "Q" would have driven a Pearl-white PC! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fred Lamoureux" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:17:37 -0400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Fred Lamoureux" No need, for the dust would never have gotten by the "Electrostatic dust deflector shield" (r) installed on the PC. Bond would NEVER have time for such things as Dust ;-} ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'Fred Lamoureux'" Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:02 PM Subject: RE: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > The Bond argument is a very good one! :-) but... would he have carried a > rag to wipe the dust off every few miles? ;-) > > Harrison > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Lamoureux [mailto:flamoureux@snet.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 8:56 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > > > Only in BLACK can the PC turly live up to it's STEALTH design. James Bond > would have rode a BLACK PC. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > > > > In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > > > > << there were several that appeared to be > > worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black > models, > > mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> > > Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > > own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 > models) > > feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel > better > > about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all the > > PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of > the > > best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have > one! > > > > Russ Vernon > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Wear Bars Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:01:08 -0700 Tim, I usually cruise at 65 on the freeway, unless I am towing the trailer. But I am not particularily aggressive with the throttle or brakes, unless the situation calls for it. I am planning on new rubber for the Y2K ride, but I am not sure I will be to the wear bars on the current set by then or not. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 18k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Tim Macy > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:44 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: Wear Bars > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Peter Noeth > > >I have a little over 18K on my 555's ('96) and I still have a little way to > >go before I hit the wear bars. > > Uh, Peter, when was the last time you were on the "wild side" of 40mph? > Actually, I once got over 19K on a set of 555's. That's why 7500 miles was > hard to take! > > I don't see any evidence of the rear shocks going bad, but I'm getting Works > Performance shocks anyway. That will probably help bring the mileage back > up, since we use the PC for so much 2-up riding. > > Tim "Scuffy" Macy > Newberg, OR > > Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (115K) > STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (3K) > > AMA #492485 > HRCA #239441 > HSTA #6030 > RCMC > STOC #1571 > > "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in > this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in > this century." - Former Vice President Dan Quayle > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) pc800@sina.hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:13:25 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:16:31 -0500 From: Phyllis Evans Subject: PC800: Used Parts Available To: "'pc800@sina.hpc.uh.edu'" Reply-to: "pcelde@swbell.net" My 98 PC800 was totaled in April by a 65 year old woman with no insurance. All I have left to show from this wonderful machine is the red tail light lens piece with the license plate bracket, the owners manual, the tool kit, and the cable lock. Let me know if you are interested in purchasing any of these items. Len (Honda Hoot Staff Member) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pcelde@swbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Used Parts Available Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:40:13 EDT Hi Len, I'd be interested in purchasing the cable lock (I didn't get one with my PC.) Thanks, Nick >From: Phyllis Evans >To: "'pc800@sina.hpc.uh.edu'" >Subject: PC800: Used Parts Available >Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:16:31 -0500 > >My 98 PC800 was totaled in April by a 65 year old woman with no insurance. >All I have left to show from this wonderful machine is the red tail light >lens piece with the license plate bracket, the owners manual, the tool kit, >and the cable lock. Let me know if you are interested in purchasing any of >these items. > >Len >(Honda Hoot Staff Member) > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dash panel needed Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:43:34 EDT I'm removing the stereo from my PC and I'd like to replace the dash panel since it has speaker cutouts and grills in it. Does anyone have a '96-up unmodified dash panel that they're interested in selling? Nick Wright ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:19:24 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". Sorry to bring this to the group in general, but I was really amused with what the dealer calls this item. Not a "general" description, but they single out a certain particular brand.... http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=tt20000707 Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: Cc: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Used Parts Available Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:01:53 -0700 Len, Sorry about the accident. I could use the red tail light assembly on my 98 PC. Would you also happen to have a salvageable clutch lever? Let me know what you want for it and maybe we can do some business. Roger Bowen Grants Pass, OR >My 98 PC800 was totaled in April by a 65 year old woman with no insurance. >All I have left to show from this wonderful machine is the red tail light >lens piece with the license plate bracket, the owners manual, the tool kit, >and the cable lock. Let me know if you are interested in purchasing any of >these items. > >Len >(Honda Hoot Staff Member) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:17:22 EDT Subject: PC800: Air Filter To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu How do you get to the PC's air filter. I have gotten the two rear screws off holding the false gas tank. How do I release the front screws? Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:55:52 EDT >From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com >To: flamoureux@snet.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:11:09 EDT > >ooh yeah! well "Q" would have driven a Pearl-white PC! >-- *********************************************** Q from STAR TREK or Q from JAMES BOND??? Just thought I'd ask so there was no confusion!! :) Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,CANADA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Castle" To: nwright98@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dash panel needed Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:59:22 EDT What make of stereo and /or what are you doing with it?? Sorry,cant help you out with the dash. Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,CANADA >From: "Nick Wright" >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Dash panel needed >Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:43:34 EDT > >I'm removing the stereo from my PC and I'd like to replace the dash panel >since it has speaker cutouts and grills in it. Does anyone have a '96-up >unmodified dash panel that they're interested in selling? > >Nick Wright >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: trip report--somewhat longish Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:55:34 -0500 Sounds like a great ride. Sometimes, an open mind is the best thing to = bring along. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Grea Ned=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Cc: Byron Barker=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:44 PM Subject: PC800: trip report--somewhat longish Hi Coasters-- Last weekend was a 900 mile excursion into the nether reaches of = southwestern Oregon. The narrative follows. The cast, in order of appearance: Self as Me Kevin Faught, my best man most recent, since moved to California Joel Byron Barker, younger son, resident of Ashland, employed by the = City Of, multitasking daily as part of the team bringing to fruition the = Ashland Fiber Network. Tim O'Connor, former resident of Tokatee, now of Portland. Charley Smith, resident of Tokatee, how holder of Tim's old job there, = riding herd on a hydro power project. Bert Nabor, world traveller by motorcycle. The Wheels: Self on Secondo Kevin on his BRAND new BMW K1200LT Joel on his venerable, beautiful, king of the UJMs, Suzuki GS850G Tim on his Harley Davidson FLHSTHeritageTSFCTDynaTHYPOVHydraGYMLE Charley on his, too, like that, only blue Bert on his BMW GS1000 (with 84k, mostly out of the country including = above the Arctic Circle as well as Mayan ruins considerably south of = that not to mention flying to Germany to pick it up brand new). Thursday afternoon I left home and 200 miles later met up with Kevin = in Ashland. We dined with Joel and with little encouragement he agreed = to come along. Friday Kevin and I cruised Medford, Jacksonville, the Applegate = Valley, ducked under I-5 through Sams Valley and Shady Cove and ended up = at Diamond Lake, the preappointed rendezvous. I racked up more than = 55mpgs that leg. =20 Joel, the two thundering motorized chromed up vibramatics, and Bert = arrived in that order. We camped on the South Umpqua. We discovered Kevin's bike does not have a microwave. At least it is = not mentioned in the first two volumes of the owner's manual. Saturday, under delicious skies and rare clouds, we wandered down the = river and then, at Glide, hit the North Bank Road to Sutherlin. Again = ducking under I-5, we loped to the coast at Reedsport, turned south, and = hunkered for the night at Bandon. =20 The altimeter read zero there. It is new to me, and had registered = 6000 feet near Crater Lake. A gizmo, but an entertaining one. Returning to our bikes, parked in an intimidating line on a quiet = Bandon street, we were surprised to find two newer BMW Dual Sports, = fully luggaged, added at the end like an ellipse in a Reader's Digest = sentence. The owners advanced on us. They looked at least intimidating, if not = threatening. =20 We chatted, dined together, they camped adjacent, and rode the next = day with the fracturing group. Stephan and Marco are German tradesmen, the former a welder/metal = fabricator, the latter a cabinetmaker. They had worked three years to = save the money and vacation time to ride the US. They had their bikes = shipped to Fairbanks, and are headed to Houston and then back to New = York and home. What a wonderful encounter that was! Joel and Kevin both knew enough = German to be hip to both sides. Stephan and Marco are certainly facile = in American, but needed the "little yellow book" from time to time. = Laughter easily fills these research voids. Motorcycles are a great = middle ground. Sunday morning I said goodbye to this amazing group and headed north = along the coast to Florence, thence inland to Eugene, under I-5 again, = and home over the McKenzie. =20 THINGS I LEARNED ON THIS TRIP Harley riders can be really nice, funny, fun company. Aftermarket Harley pipes are w a y too loud. The K1200LT front end was made from a plaster cast of a PC800. The handlebars of the K12 look like prosthetic limbs left on the floor = of the Creature Cantina in Star Wars. The best part of the K12 is the electric windshield. You think the PC is heavy....the K12 is over 200 lbs porkier. Bert tells the best stories.=20 The GS850, with Joel aboard, gives nothing away to any of these other = bikes, with the possible exception of dBs to the Harleys and luggage = space to the PC. The center stand trick--a recent thread--is a stunner. I did it = twice, to the amazement of the witnesses. Much of the enjoyment on this trip was the direct result of stuff I = have learned from this group of fellow PC Owners...like the centerstand = trick, like how to put a Vista Cruise on, like owning a PC Glovebox = (Thanks, Neill, I know you're not listening or listing), like lowering = the little snubbers in the hatchback lid, and on and on. Thanks, all, for making a great sport and pastime richer, neater, and = just plain more enjoyable. =20 Not to mention oil, PC color, or air fresheners. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" into the=20 nether reaches of southwestern Oregon.  The narrative=20 follows.
 
The cast, in order of = appearance:
 
Self as Me
 
Kevin Faught, my best man most = recent, since=20 moved to California
 
Joel Byron Barker, younger son, = resident of=20 Ashland, employed by the City Of, multitasking daily as part of the = team=20 bringing to fruition the Ashland Fiber Network.
 
Tim O'Connor, former resident of = Tokatee, now of=20 Portland.
 
Charley Smith, resident of Tokatee, = how holder of=20 Tim's old job there, riding herd on a hydro power = project.
 
Bert Nabor, world traveller by=20 motorcycle.
 
 
 
The Wheels:
 
Self on Secondo

Kevin on his BRAND new BMW=20 K1200LT
 
Joel on his venerable, beautiful, = king of the=20 UJMs, Suzuki GS850G
 
Tim on his Harley Davidson=20 FLHSTHeritageTSFCTDynaTHYPOVHydraGYMLE
 
Charley on his, too, like that, only=20 blue
 
Bert on his BMW GS1000 (with 84k, = mostly out of=20 the country including above the Arctic Circle as well as Mayan ruins=20 considerably south of that not to mention flying to Germany to pick it = up=20 brand new).
 
 
 
Thursday afternoon I left home and = 200 miles=20 later met up with Kevin in Ashland.  We dined with Joel and with = little=20 encouragement he agreed to come along.
 
Friday Kevin and I cruised Medford, = Jacksonville,=20 the Applegate Valley, ducked under I-5 through Sams Valley and Shady = Cove and=20 ended up at Diamond Lake, the preappointed rendezvous.  I racked = up more=20 than 55mpgs that leg. 
 
Joel, the two thundering motorized = chromed up=20 vibramatics, and Bert arrived in that order.
 
We camped on the South = Umpqua.
 
We discovered Kevin's bike does not = have a=20 microwave.  At least it is not mentioned in the first two volumes = of the=20 owner's manual.
 
Saturday, under delicious skies and = rare clouds,=20 we wandered down the river and then, at Glide, hit the North Bank Road = to=20 Sutherlin.  Again ducking under I-5, we loped to the coast at = Reedsport,=20 turned south, and hunkered for the night at Bandon.  =
 
The altimeter read zero there.  = It is new to=20 me, and had registered 6000 feet near Crater Lake.  A gizmo, but = an=20 entertaining one.
 
Returning to our bikes, parked in an = intimidating=20 line on a quiet Bandon street, we were surprised to find two newer BMW = Dual=20 Sports, fully luggaged, added at the end like an ellipse in a Reader's = Digest=20 sentence.
 
The owners advanced on = us.   They=20 looked at least intimidating, if not threatening. 
 
We chatted, dined together, they = camped adjacent,=20 and rode the next day with the fracturing group.
 
Stephan and Marco are German = tradesmen, the=20 former a welder/metal fabricator, the latter a cabinetmaker.  = They had=20 worked three years to save the money and vacation time to ride the = US. =20 They had their bikes shipped to Fairbanks, and are headed to Houston = and then=20 back to New York and home.
 
What a wonderful encounter that = was!  Joel=20 and Kevin both knew enough German to be hip to both sides.  = Stephan and=20 Marco are certainly facile in American, but needed the "little yellow = book"=20 from time to time.  Laughter easily fills these research = voids. =20 Motorcycles are a great middle ground.
 
Sunday morning I said goodbye to this = amazing=20 group and headed north along the coast to Florence, thence inland to = Eugene,=20 under I-5 again, and home over the McKenzie. 
 
THINGS I LEARNED ON THIS = TRIP
 
Harley riders can be really nice, = funny, fun=20 company.
 
Aftermarket Harley pipes are w a y = too=20 loud.
 
The K1200LT front end was made from a = plaster=20 cast of a PC800.
 
The handlebars of the K12 look like = prosthetic=20 limbs left on the floor of the Creature Cantina in Star = Wars.
 
The best part of the K12 is the = electric=20 windshield.
 
You think the PC is heavy....the K12 = is over 200=20 lbs porkier.
 
Bert tells the best = stories. 
 
The GS850, with Joel aboard, gives = nothing away=20 to any of these other bikes, with the possible exception of dBs to the = Harleys=20 and luggage space to the PC.
 
The center stand trick--a recent = thread--is a=20 stunner.  I did it twice, to the amazement of the = witnesses.
 
Much of the enjoyment on this trip = was the direct=20 result of stuff I have learned from this group of fellow PC = Owners...like the=20 centerstand trick, like how to put a Vista Cruise on, like owning a PC = Glovebox (Thanks, Neill, I know you're not listening or listing), like = lowering the little snubbers in the hatchback lid, and on and = on.
 
Thanks, all, for making a great sport = and pastime=20 richer, neater, and just plain more enjoyable. 
 
Not to mention oil, PC color, or air=20 fresheners.
 
Lee Barker
95 "Secondo con=20 Brio"
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com 8 Jun 2000 19:30:58 -0500 (CDT) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 08 Jun 2000 19:29:57 -0500 (CDT) id 5.bf.3f1c85f (4572); Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Used Parts Available To: pcelde@swbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'll take the tool kit and the lens, if you'd be so kind. Send me your price/shipping needs and I will send you... Money. Kendall 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:58:49 -0500 Rich raises a valid point. Mine doesn't say Pacific Coast anymore, however. I have, like many of you, taken all of the identifying stickers off the bike. Because they are not very common, I have had several folks at work ask me if it was some kind of BMW. They are all surprised to hear it is a Honda. That is why I settled on the name FAUX. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: PC800: Color comments running loose again... > >It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > >own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 > models) > > >worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black models, > >mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). > > >It's just that the Black ones were the best of the best. > > To me, this kind of @#%^& gets annoying after a while. You know, I don't > give a care what color it is, just as long as it says "PACIFIC COAST" on the > side, and NOT Concours on the front, and DOESN'T have a BMW badge on the > fairing... > > If it's a PC, nothing else matters, right??? :-) > > Rich Fenwick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > > > > In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > > > > << there were several that appeared to be > > worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black > models, > > mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> > > Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > > own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 > models) > > feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel > better > > about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all the > > PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of > the > > best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have > one! > > > > Russ Vernon > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66702U35000L35000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:50:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Air Filter Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:49:50 -0500 The front 2 screws are under the 2 pop out panels at the front of the false tank cover. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: PC800: Air Filter > How do you get to the PC's air filter. I have gotten the two rear screws off > holding the false gas tank. How do I release the front screws? > > Bernie > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:56:36 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Mark Gilb" , Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:56:23 -0500 Beginning last summer, I would often be seen by a certain small boy at the local Wal Mart who was convinced my bike was actually a runabout from Deep Space 9. My wife said the only Deep Space she knows is the one between my ears. Ain't love grand? --Ralph ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... > Rich raises a valid point. Mine doesn't say Pacific Coast anymore, however. > I have, like many of you, taken all of the identifying stickers off the > bike. Because they are not very common, I have had several folks at work ask > me if it was some kind of BMW. They are all surprised to hear it is a Honda. > That is why I settled on the name FAUX. > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 FAUX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fenwick" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 11:05 PM > Subject: PC800: Color comments running loose again... > > > > >It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough to > > >own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 > > models) > > > > >worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black > models, > > >mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). > > > > >It's just that the Black ones were the best of the best. > > > > To me, this kind of @#%^& gets annoying after a while. You know, I don't > > give a care what color it is, just as long as it says "PACIFIC COAST" on > the > > side, and NOT Concours on the front, and DOESN'T have a BMW badge on the > > fairing... > > > > If it's a PC, nothing else matters, right??? :-) > > > > Rich Fenwick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 5:58 PM > > Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/6/00 9:35:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > > DWilli5342@aol.com writes: > > > > > > << there were several that appeared to be > > > worth looking into (even a couple of the dreaded, low-budget Black > > models, > > > mixed in with the much sought after, higher echelon Red beauties!). >> > > > Tisk tisk tisk. It is sad indeed that those of you not fortunate enough > to > > > own the greatest of all Honda PeeCees (the most wondrous '94 and' 95 > > models) > > > feel that you must put down these bikes so that you will somehow feel > > better > > > about your own inferior (though still great) machines. Honda made all > the > > > PC800s terrific machines. It's just that the Black ones were the best of > > the > > > best. And hey......if you dont believe me just ask the lucky people have > > one! > > > > > > Russ Vernon > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: "Mark Gilb" , Subject: Re: PC800: Color comments running loose again... Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:18:53 -0700 > I have, like many of you, taken all of the identifying stickers off the > bike. Because they are not very common, I have had several folks at work ask > me if it was some kind of BMW Nice to know you work with folks who are not very common, Mark :). But as for stickers, hey, I still have some "Body by Tupperware" stickers. High quality decals, actually. Per my ride last weekend: There are two gas station attendants in Shady Cove now convinced that Tupperware is in bed with Honda. Plus a couple came out of the Bandon Cheese Store as Joel and I were munching ice cream outside, in earshot of our bikes. Pa was amused, noted the decal for Ma, she refocused on her ice cream quickly. It was a nanosecond, but funny nonetheless. Decals are 2/ $8.00. Send me your address and I'll do the rest. They look stock. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot Update Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:18:07 -0500 Thanks again to all of you who have sent in your Hoot info. I have updated the list and am making one last appeal for any stragglers to come forward. My plan is to send Emile the updated and final list this Saturday. Looks like we will have a good crowd for lunch at the Pisgah Inn on Saturday. I put this on my "must do" list. If anyone is interested in a ride to Chimney Rock, I'm planning on going sometime during the week, let me know and maybe we can get something organized. For those of you arriving Wednesday or earlier, is there any interest in a get acquainted dinner somewhere Wednesday night? Since this is my first Hoot (ah, yes, a virgin), I'm not sure what to expect in terms of things to do. If anyone has suggestions or things that shouldn't be missed, please post them to the list so that everyone can make appropriate plans. Hope to see you all in Asheville, Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 FAUX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:26:27 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:26:56 -0400 Tell 'em Steve. Nothing beats the original. The guys over at Coca-Cola learned that the hard way. ;-) Clay Leihy Burlington, NJ 1989 PC800 "White Silk" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: "PC800 List" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards > Ah, my friend, you are overlooking the most rare, most > highly-sought, most priceless albino buzzard! Kind of > an upper-echelon raptor, in sort of a cream-ish, > champagne-ish color, with a few insignificant quirks > (mostly electrical) that serve merely to enhance the > magnificent bird's personality! > > -- > Steve Ewens > Lee's Summit, MO > '89 PC800 > > > > > > In a message dated 6/6/00 8:50:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, > > pcstarship@home.com writes: > > > > << Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... >> > > Sure, even buzzards know what the best color to be is. Black! :) > > > > Russ Vernon > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Willy Young" To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: If it hasn't happenned to you, it will. Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:36:52 PDT My first attempt to correspond with this list. Walked out Monday. Finally called today after finding I may not can get Cobra if I don't quit. They will pack my stuff up for me. Can't ride. Broke foot 7 May. Using removeable cast until 6 July. Found list after friend mentioned lists for certain motorcycles. Have ordered Russell seat. Will be shipping seat off about the time I can walk without cast. Too busy reading mail on this list and trying to trade stocks for a living to go to work anyway. Willy '96 color that matches my neck PC ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: decals To: Grea Ned , Mark Gilb , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Lee, I remember a list member, Ann, that sent me a "hardly a davidson" decal that stuck on..it was great! Got lots of comments on that as I stuck it on the trunk. Unfortunatley, I misplaced it one day in the garage while I was cleaning my bike, never found it again...I sure wish I had it back! Paul In Wisconsin --- Grea Ned wrote: > > > I have, like many of you, taken all of the > identifying stickers off the > > bike. Because they are not very common, I have had > several folks at work > ask > > me if it was some kind of BMW > > Nice to know you work with folks who are not very > common, Mark :). > > But as for stickers, hey, I still have some > > "Body by Tupperware" stickers. High quality decals, > actually. > > > Per my ride last weekend: There are two gas station > attendants in Shady > Cove now convinced that Tupperware is in bed with > Honda. > > Plus a couple came out of the Bandon Cheese Store as > Joel and I were > munching ice cream outside, in earshot of our bikes. > Pa was amused, noted > the decal for Ma, she refocused on her ice cream > quickly. It was a > nanosecond, but funny nonetheless. > > Decals are 2/ $8.00. Send me your address and I'll > do the rest. > > They look stock. > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:07:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Update To: Mark Gilb , PC800 List Mark, when you get back, I think a report would be great to the group. I want to get to a Hoot too, sometime, and it would be great to hear your impressions!!! Please consider a report. I've never participated in a rally of any kind (although I did sneak into a "Wing" Rally in Green Bay last year, got booted since I did not pay to get into the vendor booth!). My wife's family is in Sweetwater, TN, which is not too far away, and I could ride the Blue Ridge Parkway with my Harley riding brother in law. I don't know if I will do it on my PC, or wait 'till we get a used Wing sometime down the road. I envy you who can ride long distances on the bike, the only time I did was when I rode about 250 miles in one day, I was SO Cramped up in my legs from being in that one position, I could have sure used a backrest and highway bars. Hence, the decision to maybe wait for wing! (sorry about the sacrilige!!!_ Have a good time! Paul in Wisconsin --- Mark Gilb wrote: > Thanks again to all of you who have sent in your > Hoot info. I have updated > the list and am making one last appeal for any > stragglers to come forward. > My plan is to send Emile the updated and final list > this Saturday. > > Looks like we will have a good crowd for lunch at > the Pisgah Inn on > Saturday. I put this on my "must do" list. > > If anyone is interested in a ride to Chimney Rock, > I'm planning on going > sometime during the week, let me know and maybe we > can get something > organized. For those of you arriving Wednesday or > earlier, is there any > interest in a get acquainted dinner somewhere > Wednesday night? > > Since this is my first Hoot (ah, yes, a virgin), I'm > not sure what to expect > in terms of things to do. If anyone has suggestions > or things that shouldn't > be missed, please post them to the list so that > everyone can make > appropriate plans. > > Hope to see you all in Asheville, > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 FAUX > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: thekoppfamily@earthlink.net cc: Tim Macy , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: PC800: MCN Articles Online of "Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:55:46 PDT." <393F2753.836913F0@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:49:41 -0500 From: David Kelly Joel Kopp writes: > Tim Macy wrote: > > > Good call, Selden! MCN is a GREAT resource for tech and non-tech info. Their > > recent articles on hearing loss and motorcycling convinced me to get > > custom-made musicians' earplugs. > > Tim: > > Wait a second . . . you use earplugs on a PC??? On one of the quietest > motorcycles ever made??? I've had dishwashers that make more noise than my PC. > Or do you only wear them for the ST? *I* wear earplugs on my PC. Its not the sound of the exhaust that is the problem, its the sound of wind around my top-rated Arai Signet/e. Even with earplugs during last year's Trail Of Tears ride across North Alabama, the Harleys gave me headaches. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 02:26:58 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 02:26:57 +0000 I like your Coke analogy, Clay! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > Tell 'em Steve. Nothing beats the original. The guys over at Coca-Cola > learned that the hard way. ;-) > > Clay Leihy > Burlington, NJ > 1989 PC800 "White Silk" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "PC800 List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:36 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards > > > > Ah, my friend, you are overlooking the most rare, most > > highly-sought, most priceless albino buzzard! Kind of > > an upper-echelon raptor, in sort of a cream-ish, > > champagne-ish color, with a few insignificant quirks > > (mostly electrical) that serve merely to enhance the > > magnificent bird's personality! > > > > -- > > Steve Ewens > > Lee's Summit, MO > > '89 PC800 > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/6/00 8:50:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, > > > pcstarship@home.com writes: > > > > > > << Hey, beats the hell out of the color thread..... >> > > > Sure, even buzzards know what the best color to be is. Black! :) > > > > > > Russ Vernon > > > -- > > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Mark Gilb" cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Update of "Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:18:07 CDT." <015201bfd1b0$925bc400$ebeb94ce@h74678> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:50:41 -0500 From: David Kelly "Mark Gilb" writes: > If anyone is interested in a ride to Chimney Rock, I'm planning on going > sometime during the week, let me know and maybe we can get something > organized. For those of you arriving Wednesday or earlier, is there any > interest in a get acquainted dinner somewhere Wednesday night? I don't have my itenerary handy but there is a "self guided tour with lunch" involving Chimney Rock. I pre-registered for two but it appears my passenger is going to drive a cage and show up late. :-( Am on the official Chimney Rock tour either Thursday or Friday. Think its Thursday, French River boat ride on Wednesday, long train ride on Friday, white water rafting on Saturday. A BBQ is held two nights. Forgot what night I signed up for. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:00:39 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Vintage Days Mid Ohio Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:15:13 -0400 Anyone going to VMD at Mid Ohio this year? Would like to meet some = other Coasters. Bill & Helen Jarrells Columbus, Ohio 1989 PC800 'Quasimodo' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Adams" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: decals - Calling Lee Barker Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 01:02:52 EDT Lee: I have heard about the 'Tupperware' decals, and seen them on pictures of someones bike on the web. Please contact me off-list so that I can give you my information to order a set while they are still available. Thanks! >From: Paul Atkins >To: Grea Ned , Mark Gilb , >pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: decals >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:00:03 -0700 (PDT) >MHotMailBB099AD2004BD820F3A881078001CD2B0; Thu Jun 08 19:00:54 2000 >karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAB10163;Thu, 8 Jun 2000 >21:00:49 -0500 (CDT) >Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:00:13 -0500 (CDT) >[216.115.104.81])by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14539for >; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:00:05 -0500 (CDT) >19:00:03 PDT > >Lee, >I remember a list member, Ann, that sent me a "hardly >a davidson" decal that stuck on..it was great! Got >lots of comments on that as I stuck it on the trunk. >Unfortunatley, I misplaced it one day in the garage >while I was cleaning my bike, never found it again...I >sure wish I had it back! >Paul In Wisconsin >--- Grea Ned wrote: > > > > > I have, like many of you, taken all of the > > identifying stickers off the > > > bike. Because they are not very common, I have had > > several folks at work > > ask > > > me if it was some kind of BMW > > > > Nice to know you work with folks who are not very > > common, Mark :). > > > > But as for stickers, hey, I still have some > > > > "Body by Tupperware" stickers. High quality decals, > > actually. > > > > > > Per my ride last weekend: There are two gas station > > attendants in Shady > > Cove now convinced that Tupperware is in bed with > > Honda. > > > > Plus a couple came out of the Bandon Cheese Store as > > Joel and I were > > munching ice cream outside, in earshot of our bikes. > > Pa was amused, noted > > the decal for Ma, she refocused on her ice cream > > quickly. It was a > > nanosecond, but funny nonetheless. > > > > Decals are 2/ $8.00. Send me your address and I'll > > do the rest. > > > > They look stock. > > > > Lee Barker > > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! >http://photos.yahoo.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:36:54 -0700 Well, at least they understand the requirements for what they ride. I = didn't see the oil storage box though.=20 Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: R. Fenwick To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". =20 =20 Sorry to bring this to the group in general, but I was really amused = with what the dealer calls this item. Not a "general" description, but = they single out a certain particular brand.... =20 = http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=3Dtt20000707 =20 Rich Fenwick=20 Illinois 1990 PC800=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". (Bad Post) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 02:19:05 -0700 I posted a reply to the above string which should have read like this: "Well, at least they understand the requirements for what they ride. I = didn't see the oil storage box though" When the post came through to me, it only read: "Well, at least they understand the requirements for" Did anybody else just get this, or is my email system screwed up?? Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: Will Edwards To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:37 AM Subject: Re: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". =20 =20 Well, at least they understand the requirements for=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:43:39 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". (Bad Post) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 12:43:39 +0000 Will, I think it's just your email. I got the entire message. -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO '89 PC800 > I posted a reply to the above string which should have read like this: > "Well, at least they understand the requirements for what they ride. I didn't > see the oil storage box though" > When the post came through to me, it only read: > "Well, at least they understand the requirements for" > Did anybody else just get this, or is my email system screwed up?? > > Will Edwards rstar@aa.net > http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ > Washington State > 96 Honda PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... > . > -----Original Message----- > From: Will Edwards > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:37 AM > Subject: Re: PC800: More on "alternative transporting". > > > Well, at least they understand the requirements for > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:17:00 -0700 From: Bob Ronecker To: Tim Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil... boundary="------------6B65B81898F0F3F8C54D5EB9" --------------6B65B81898F0F3F8C54D5EB9 I use Mobil 1 in my 94PC Would use the motorcycle specific Mobil if they would get reasonable with the price. Bob Ronecker St Louis, Mo --------------6B65B81898F0F3F8C54D5EB9 I use Mobil 1 in my 94PC
Would use the motorcycle specific Mobil if they would get
reasonable with the price.
Bob Ronecker
St Louis, Mo
  --------------6B65B81898F0F3F8C54D5EB9-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:08:38 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Buzzards To: clayl@home.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/8/00 6:27:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, clayl@home.com writes: << Tell 'em Steve. Nothing beats the original. The guys over at Coca-Cola learned that the hard way. ;-) >> Yeah, so did the American people. They elected Clinton for president- TWICE! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:20:09 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Oil... To: bobduwah@freewwweb.com, timbmacy@hotmail.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/9/00 6:09:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, bobduwah@freewwweb.com writes: << I use Mobil 1 in my 94PC Would use the motorcycle specific Mobil if they would get reasonable with the price. >> Save your $ Bob. It's probably the same stuff. Besides, one of the listers has over a quarter MILLION miles on his bike using the car grade Mobil 1. I doubt that the motorcycle stuff is little if any better. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:29:56 -0700 From: Bob Ronecker To: Fred Lamoureux CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC's for sale on the Net boundary="------------F79019E05A9154A58A8ACC00" --------------F79019E05A9154A58A8ACC00 Actually I once heard that the 89 model was originally red but a paint defect causes it to fade to a pearl white over time. anonymous --------------F79019E05A9154A58A8ACC00 Actually I once heard that the 89 model was originally red
but a paint defect causes it to fade to a pearl white over time.
anonymous
  --------------F79019E05A9154A58A8ACC00-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: , "David Kelly" Cc: "Tim Macy" , , Subject: Re: PC800: MCN Articles Online Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:05:17 -0700 > > Tim: > > > > Wait a second . . . you use earplugs on a PC??? On one of the quietest > > motorcycles ever made??? I've had dishwashers that make more noise than my PC. > > Or do you only wear them for the ST? > > *I* wear earplugs on my PC. Its not the sound of the exhaust that is > the problem, its the sound of wind around my top-rated Arai Signet/e. > > Even with earplugs during last year's Trail Of Tears ride across North > Alabama, the Harleys gave me headaches. > > -- I can't tell if Joel's comments are tongue in cheek, but anyway, Right on David! There is no doubt a batch on hearing loss in the archives. It was a very good topic when I first came aboard this list. I believe hearing protection devices are a must for any ride longer than to the grocery store. I am speaking as a musician, as a former contractor (who, I am embarassed to admit, has been known to staple down underlayment in closets when it was not cool to wear earplugs (or even kneepads)), and as a cabinetmaker whose employee sets a wonderful example. He usually wears plugs all day. I keep earmuffs, 7 pairs, strategically hung about the shop. I want to be able to hear my grandchildren speak. Hence the plugs when I ride. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Grea Ned" To: Subject: PC800: side entry pants Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:32:39 -0700 Coasters All-- For longterm riding I have a two piece leather suit. For the occasional evening pursuit I have decided to purchase the = Roadgear Ouray jacket. Had one once, gave it to a kid, want another. About cordura pants:=20 Roadgear's aren't zip down the side of the leg style. It seems to me that would be the most convenient type. I could just put = them on over boot and jeans quite easily. Do you know of a brand I could investigate? Website? I'd be open to a jacket/pant combo too if there were compelling reasons = for that. The jacket would have to look better than the Ouray, which is = significantly spiffy. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:52:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: side entry pants To: Grea Ned Cc: PC800 http://www.aerostich.com/ --- Grea Ned wrote: > Coasters All-- > > For longterm riding I have a two piece leather suit. > > For the occasional evening pursuit I have decided to > purchase the Roadgear Ouray jacket. Had one once, > gave it to a kid, want another. > > About cordura pants: > > Roadgear's aren't zip down the side of the leg > style. > > It seems to me that would be the most convenient > type. I could just put them on over boot and jeans > quite easily. > > Do you know of a brand I could investigate? > Website? > > I'd be open to a jacket/pant combo too if there were > compelling reasons for that. The jacket would have > to look better than the Ouray, which is > significantly spiffy. > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo con Brio" > > ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: MCN Articles Online Joel Kopp writes: > Wait a second . . . you use earplugs on a PC??? On one of the quietest > motorcycles ever made??? I've had dishwashers that make more noise than > my PC. Or do you only wear them for the ST? It's not the bike noise, it's the wind noise. For 34 of the 39 years I've been riding, I rode without ear protection. I have permanent tinnitus (ringing in the ears), despite always riding bikes with stock mufflers. The other bonus of ear plugs is that noise, even wind noise, is fatiguing on a long ride. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:22:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Air Filter BernieK469@aol.com writes: > How do you get to the PC's air filter. I have gotten the two rear > screws off holding the false gas tank. How do I release the front > screws? As Steve Wilson pointed out, the front screws are under the two small pop out plastic panels that are immediately in front of the "shelter". There is a trick to removing these: the LEFT one comes out first, then the right. If you try in the opposite order, you may break/crack the tab that links the two together. If they've never been off, they may be a little reluctant. Before reassembling, use some silicone grease (e.g. Silglyde) on the rubber grommets. I use this on all the rubber grommets for the PC bodywork; nothing has ever popped when it shouldn't, but the lubrication makes it much easier to remove and re-attach body panels. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Think about it Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:39:25 -0700 1990, preferably an SE, with all kinds of goodies on it, Think about it.....Now is the time to sell, before the 2001 comes out with that V-6, and 1800cc we all keep hearing about ...We all know, the prices of 1500's will drop at that point... If you have one to sell, or know someone that does, live within a radius of 3-400 miles of Nashville, and willing to accept fall prices now,,contact me off list, I am willing to listen to any price offering and am able to pick up the bike, depending on circumstances. I look forward to hearing from you. Doug I have cash............. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Vintage Days Mid Ohio "Bill Jarrells" writes: > Anyone going to VMD at Mid Ohio this year? Would like to meet some > other Coasters. This will be the first time in the past 3 years that I don't plan to go to VMD. For those of you who have never been to this event, it's great. The accompanying motorcycle flea market covers several acres, and there are thousands of very interesting bikes and people to look at. AHRMA racing has a sound quite different from contemporary road racing, and at VMD you are able to walk around the pits and see the bikes close up. A special treat, especially if you've never seen it, is going over to the fairgrounds (about 30 miles away) Friday night for vintage flat track racing. Track admission is reasonable, and camping is cheap (although the only showers are in the track area, not near the camping area). For the past 2 years, BMW, HD/Buell, Kawasaki, Triumph and Yamaha have offered demo rides. Unfortunately, Honda hasn't made an appearance since 1997, when they were the featured marque. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Think about it Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:42:53 -0700 I have sold both my bikes and have narrowed my search for a newer GW to a 1990, preferably an SE, with all kinds of goodies on it, Think about it.....Now is the time to sell, before the 2001 comes out with that V-6, and 1800cc we all keep hearing about ...We all know, the prices of 1500's will drop at that point... If you have one to sell, or know someone that does, live within a radius of 3-400 miles of Nashville, and willing to accept fall prices now,,contact me off list, I am willing to listen to any price offering and am able to pick up the bike, depending on circumstances. I look forward to hearing from you. Doug I have cash............. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:12:05 EDT Subject: PC800: Apologies to the List To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'm sorry. I'm really, deeply, truly sorry. All I meant to do was mention the PC800's for sale on a specific website. Then, I had to go and open my mouth about the colors. It must have been that little voice in my head (and boy, does it ever echo in there!). I promise I'll NEVER, NEVER bring up color again. Nor oil, nor filters, nor winged wildlife with long wingspans! For penance, I'll go a whole weekend on a Harley, with straight pipes, with 412 pounds of camping gear bungee'd on every conceivable part of the bike, in a pink leather riding suit. (At least that sounded to me like what most 'Coasters would imagine purgatory to be like). Oh, and no electric start either. Sorry again for the color thread. Consider me properly chastised. Please don't send Russ looking for me. Dean Williams Springfield, OR '98 PC800 (no specific color) "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: (Punishment) Apologies to the List Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:44:03 -0700