********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: Cc: , "Neillnsteph" Subject: Re: PC800: Spare seat (I have one!!) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:48:06 -0700 It's all duct Tape! But it's a seat! It can still be used so you can ride while you have yours being worked on. I keep forgetting I have it! Would you like to borrow it? If anyone on the list needs a loaner, I don't mine floating it around. It's not doing anyone good right now hanging on the wall. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Neillnsteph To: PC800 list Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 7:42 AM Subject: PC800: Spare seat >I have a spare seat from the parts bike but... The vinyl on it was >really shot. Just the other day I was in the fabric store getting >Glovebox supplies and I saw a piece of leather that appeared to be >exactly the right shade of gray to match the original color of vinyl. I >bought the leather and I took the old cracked, ripped, and torn vinyl >off. I took the old cover apart at the seams so that I could make a >pattern from it. As soon as I get a chance, I intend to see if I can >stitch a new cover out of leather for this donorcycle seat. I'm a few >Glovebox orders behind so this might take a while. > >Ann does have a spare seat. I'll forward this to her or phone her. > >TTFN, >Neill > >Lee Barker wrote: >> >> Neill bought the donor bike he is parting out... >> >> Lee >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "R. Fenwick" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 8:07 AM >> Subject: Re(2): PC800: Russell Seat Saga Part 2 >> >> > I thought someone on the list *DID* have an extra seat that was offered >> for >> > rent for just this purpose... Maybe it was Ann? I can't remember now... >> > >> > Rich Fenwick >> > Illinois >> > 1990 PC800 >> > HRCA - HM725413 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 11:00 AM 04/25/2000 -0400, PC800 Rider wrote: >> > >dsigsbee@memphis.edu writes: >> > >>I react in this way since I am scheduled to have my seat to them on June >> > >>10 (or 13?, the letter is at home). Does this mean that I can now >> > >>anticipate being without seat between approximately June 5 and >> > >>mid-July? Hmmm. A lot of good riding weather down the tubes. >> > >> >> > >>--David >> > > >> > >A missed opportunity again! I guess that's why I'm not a millionaire. I >> should >> > >have bought several PC800 seats from cycle salvage yards and rented them, >> > at an >> > >appropriately outrageous price increasing daily as the riding season >> matures, >> > >to you guys who are buying Russell seats. Oh well, the story of my life. >> > > >> > >I do however have a couple of old wicker chairs and bungie cords I'd part >> with >> > >for a somewhat lower rental fee:-) >> > > >> > >Tim Davies >> > >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >> > >'98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" >> > > >> > >AMA #688662 >> > >HSTA #8387 >> > >HRCA #HM100878 >> > > >> > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" >> > > >> > >-- >> > >Visit the PC800 web page at >> > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >> > -- >> > Visit the PC800 web page at >> > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 02:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 02:44:40 EDT Subject: PC800: Fwd: 1989 PC800 for Sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Return-path: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com Full-name: KANDJCS Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 00:20:57 EDT Subject: 1989 PC800 for Sale To: pc800@uh.edu I have decided (with great reluctance) that this is my last year of motorcycling. HONDA PACIFIC COAST (PC800) '89 (BOUGHT NEW IN 1991), 23,700 MI, EXCELLENT COND. BRAND NEW CLEARVIEW +5 WINDSCREEN HONDALINE BACKREST K & J CYCLE SOUNDS (SOUND SYSTEM) FRONT MUDFLAP (NEVER INSTALLED) MAXON COMMUNICATOR/INTERCOMM HONDA SHOP MANUAL 3 HELMETS $2500.00 FIRM (I'm too busy to haggle: Take it or leave it.) I plan to list in the Baltimore Sun beginning May 14. If anyone on the list is interested, please contact me before I place the ad. Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: tail rack quest continues... Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:44:33 -0500 In response to Lee's discussion about the article in Rider, this years WeSTOC is going to be held in Durango, CO. Check out the details at http://www.warpages.com/westoc2000/index.cfm. Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" Hi Coasters and Questers... SIDEBAR The latest Rider magazine has a brief item about the ST1100 gathering in Oregon. I don't remember seeing them putting around here, but it appears they had a good time. I especially liked the "Concours de Farkelgance" which I think PCers, being of generally larger intellect, creativity and spizerinctum, could improve upon in, say, September along, say, the Pacific Coast. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-65117U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 09:19:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dsharum@data-tronics.com (David Sharum) To: "'pc800'" Subject: PC800: CarBuyer Notifier Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:19:38 -0500 Importance: Normal 1994 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 $4000 in Baton Rouge, LA http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=132289 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Fw: PC800 for sale in Central, Louisiana Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:04:03 -0500 Read the replies below...I don't know if this lady still has the bike for sale, but one of my ST buddies took a look at it and sent me his reply. Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" '94 PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: Cc: "Shellie Turner @ Work" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: Re: PC800 for sale in Central, Louisiana Thanks James. Next time I am close to Baton Rouge, I will come by and buy you dinner and a beer. I will be down at Weeks Island, south of New Iberia, for Easter visiting my parents. Maybe we can get together then. If not, I will be back down for Memorial day weekend. Again THANKS for the time. Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: PC800 for sale in Central, Louisiana > Hey Larry, > Me and a friend of mine went by and saw the PC yesterday, and met > Deb,(Nice Lady by the way!). The bike looks brand new. New paint, mirrors, > various plastics. Deb has pictures of the bike before she restored it, and > the crash looks to have been a fairly low speed, low side. The bike runs > fine, handles fine, (no apparent fork or frame damage) tires are, for all > practical purposes, brand new. It has a built in CB and stereo. Somewhere > around 15,000 miles. The only things that would need attention, in my > opinion, is the drivers seat, and the small air grill on the front of the > bike, just below the windshield needs to be changed. The drivers seat needs > to be either replaced, or reworked (foam & cover). The passenger seat is > Corbin. I would recommend this bike to anyone. Hope this helps!! Let me > know if you have further questions. > > James > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debora Reid [mailto:dkreid@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 8:35 AM > To: Smith James CP USSG EXC > Subject: Re:RE: RE: PC800 for sale > > > > I will call you on Saturday morning about 10am if you will be around. > > > > > At Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:15:58 +0200, you wrote: > > > >If I can look at it this weekend, call me at home and give me a time. > > > >664-8138 > > > >James > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Debora Reid [mailto:dkreid@bellsouth.net] > >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:53 PM > >To: Smith James CP USSG EXC > >Subject: Re:RE: PC800 for sale > > > > > >Yes, that intersection is only about 2 miles away from my house. > > > > > > > > > > > >At Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:30:19 +0200, you wrote: > >> > >>You're in Central, just outside Baton Rouge, as in Hooper Rd at > >Sullivan???? > >> > >>James Smith > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Debora Reid [mailto:dkreid@bellsouth.net] > >>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 5:05 PM > >>To: Larry Johnson > >>Subject: Re:PC800 for sale > >> > >> > >>15,280 miles. Yes it was laid down on the right side, I bought it in that > >>condition. It was all cosmetic. I'm not sure why it was totaled and > >>salvaged, because it was definitely repairable. It had sat for a while, > so > >>I had it gone over at Honda of Lafayette, carbs cleaned, etc. I replaced > >>the tires. Front tire has about 1700 miles and rear has about 1500 miles. > >>The body work has been repaired and painted, it has new full mirror > >>assemblies and many other new parts. > >>Photo attached. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:29:29 -0600, you wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > > > >
Can you email me a pic?
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I would also like to know how many miles are on > the > bike, if it's ever been dropped or repainted, and conditions of tires on the > > bike now.
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Thanks,
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Larry Johnson
Irving, TX
STOC #1410, HSTA > > #9294,
TMRA #34137
98' ST1100 "Vision > QueST"
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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: mobil 1 oil.... Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:11:00 -0700 I use Mobil 1 15w-50 year around, here in Washington. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com > I was wondering the type of oil I should use. The previous owner used >Mobil 1 , but don't recall...which type: >15w-50 >5w-30 >10w-30 > I live in Wisconsin and would like to know which type would be the best to >handle the extreme weather we have. THANKS!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: electric vest wiring To: PC800 Rider Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Tim, thanks for the information..for the electrically inept, and its not too long, how do you install the plug? Paul > I added a DC outlet to the left top side of my > fairing just below the pocket. > It's a BMW style plug/outlet, but I got it from my > John Deere dealer for about > 1/6 the cost. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the > excuse!" > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 12:24:19 EDT Subject: PC800: Paint color numbers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am going to re-paint my cargo trailer to match my PC. Does any know the color number of the silver/black on the 1996. I have the top red numbers. Also has anyone ever painted a trailer before ?? I am going to remove the box and lights , all the body shop is going to have to do is paint. What is a fair price ?? the shop will supply the paint. Thanks in advance Ride safe Jim T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:46:07 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: '89 for sale, east coast Canada. Bike: '89 Pacific Coast, white Location: Halifax, NS, Canada, Pro Cycle, +1 902 468-2518 Sticker Price: 5500$CDN = 3900$US Mileage: 26,409km = 16,500mi I helped buy this bike for a friend from an older couple who discovered that although it looks like a scooter, it wouldn't ride on the back bumper of their travel trailer. She just traded it for a Magna V45. It has a pinstripe kit and the spoiler. The trunk frame got bent by a few millimeters so the trunk doesn't sit perfectly straight on the body, the decal kit is scuffed in a couple places, and I think there's one piece of repaired plastic (can't remember where, sorry.) Otherwise it's in very good condition. The odometer reads in kilometers; the speedo has MPH in small letters; otherwise the bike is identical to a US '89. The bike's in Canada, you'll have to do your own research on importing it to your country. I know importing a US bike to here was no big deal when I did my '97 last year. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Wayden, Linda F" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: PC sighting at Skinem, TN Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:57:16 -0500 I saw my twin, a red PC800 Sunday morning 4/30/00 near the spot called Skinem, TN between Fayetteville, TN & Huntsville, AL on TN 110. Linda Wayden 97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:12:44 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Paint color numbers To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: >I am going to re-paint my cargo trailer to match my PC. Does any know the >color number of the silver/black on the 1996. I have the top red numbers. >Also has anyone ever painted a trailer before ?? I am going to remove the box >and lights , all the body shop is going to have to do is paint. What is a >fair price ?? the shop will supply the paint. >Thanks in advance >Ride safe >Jim T You can get all the paint color matching infomation by calling Color-Rite (http://www.color-rite.com/). It is probably where your body shop will get the paint to match anyway. I know mine goes there when ever they do motorcyle work. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Upcoming PC sighting (I found one!) Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:22:58 EDT Thanks to everyone who gave me their input when I was searching for a PC last week. I located a great deal on a '96 with a leather Corbin, Givi trunk, stereo, tall Honda windshield, etc. in Lexington, KY. I'm flying down there this Saturday morning and driving it back to the Boston area. I'm looking forward to the ride and to owning a Pacific Coast. You may see me somewhere along I-64/79/68/70/81/84/90 this weekend, although I wish I had more time so I could explore some side roads. :) A little info on myself: I've owned several bikes since I started riding around 18 years ago, but my favorites were the 2 Hawk GTs and the VTR1000 I sold last December. I like Honda products, especially V-twins, but I've been wanting something comfortable to ride that could carry my fiancee and myself on weekend trips. I took a long trip on a friend's '84 Goldwing last summer, and decided I could live with something like that. Then I remembered the Pacific Coast, and I was hooked. Nick Wright '82 Kawasaki GPz550 (for sale) '96 Honda PC800 (soon to be) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: cj russell To: Neillnsteph , PC800 list Subject: RE: PC800: Free to a good home What A deal, I have that helmet in almost the exact silver/gold metallic as the bottom paint on my 89 with a tinted shield and I love it. It is the dark one (2 available) and I can use it in any condition except true night time. You don't realize how much less you squint until you try one and it's much more comfortable than sunglasses - however heading west into a sunset and you'll still like shades or a visor of some sort. This shield retails for about $60 - if somebody can use it - grab it - if no other response Neil, I'll gladly take it as a spare! CJ Russell 89 "Therapy" ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Neillnsteph To: PC800 list Sent: April 29, 2000 2:59:21 PM GMT Subject: PC800: Free to a good home I have a tinted face shield for an Arai Signet/e helmet. You pay the postage and it's yours. The shield has about a year of use on it but it is in very good shape. TTFN, Neill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E6ZWQNKA; Mon, 01 May 2000 17:08:39 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:04:37 -0400 Subject: PC800: Attention GPS Users From: "Harvey P. Sattin" The White House released this press release today -- S/A est morte ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- [available at http://www.whitehouse.gov/library/PressReleases.cgi] May 1, 2000 STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT REGARDING THE UNITED STATES' DECISION TO STOP DEGRADING GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM ACCURACY THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _______________________________________________________ For Immediate Release May 1, 2000 STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT REGARDING THE UNITED STATES' DECISION TO STOP DEGRADING GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM ACCURACY Today, I am pleased to announce that the United States will stop the intentional degradation of the Global Positioning System (GPS) signals available to the public beginning at midnight tonight. We call this degradation feature Selective Availability (SA). This will mean that civilian users of GPS will be able to pinpoint locations up to ten times more accurately than they do now. GPS is a dual-use, satellite-based system that provides accurate location and timing data to users worldwide. My March 1996 Presidential Decision Directive included in the goals for GPS to: "encourage acceptance and integration of GPS into peaceful civil, commercial and scientific applications worldwide; and to encourage private sector investment in and use of U.S. GPS technologies and services." To meet these goals, I committed the U.S. to discontinuing the use of SA by 2006 with an annual assessment of its continued use beginning this year. The decision to discontinue SA is the latest measure in an on-going effort to make GPS more responsive to civil and commercial users worldwide. Last year, Vice President Gore announced our plans to modernize GPS by adding two new civilian signals to enhance the civil and commercial service. This initiative is on-track and the budget further advances modernization by incorporating some of the new features on up to 18 additional satellites that are already awaiting launch or are in production. We will continue to provide all of these capabilities to worldwide users free of charge. My decision to discontinue SA was based upon a recommendation by the Secretary of Defense in coordination with the Departments of State, Transportation, Commerce, the Director of Central Intelligence, and other Executive Branch Departments and Agencies. They realized that worldwide transportation safety, scientific, and commercial interests could best be served by discontinuation of SA. Along with our commitment to enhance GPS for peaceful applications, my administration is committed to preserving fully the military utility of GPS. The decision to discontinue SA is coupled with our continuing efforts to upgrade the military utility of our systems that use GPS, and is supported by threat assessments which conclude that setting SA to zero at this time would have minimal impact on national security. Additionally, we have demonstrated the capability to selectively deny GPS signals on a regional basis when our national security is threatened. This regional approach to denying navigation services is consistent with the 1996 plan to discontinue the degradation of civil and commercial GPS service globally through the SA technique. Originally developed by the Department of Defense as a military system, GPS has become a global utility. It benefits users around the world in many different applications, including air, road, marine, and rail navigation, telecommunications, emergency response, oil exploration, mining, and many more. Civilian users will realize a dramatic improvement in GPS accuracy with the discontinuation of SA. For example, emergency teams responding to a cry for help can now determine what side of the highway they must respond to, thereby saving precious minutes. This increase in accuracy will allow new GPS applications to emerge and continue to enhance the lives of people around the world. --- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:53:46 +0000 From: Dr Thomas A Clark To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR APRS SIG , AMSAT BB Subject: [aprssig] More on GPS S/A Going Away In addition to the White House posting available at http://www.whitehouse.gov/library/PressReleases.cgi I refer you to the material posted on the IGEB (Interagency GPS Executive Board) Web Site. Most of this material is "embargoed" until 14:00 EDT today (and it's not yet 13:00!), but since the cat is out of the bag, you may as well read all the details at http://www.igeb.gov/ Note especially the text in the DOC Fact Sheet. Regards, Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Paint color numbers Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:35:54 -0700 > ---------- > From: Peter Noeth > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:35 PM > To: 'pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us' > Subject: RE: PC800: Paint color numbers > > But Color-Rite is NOT, REPEAT NOT and exact match. This is also where Bushtech > got the paint they used to paint my new Quantum trailer, and it does not match > my '96 red bike. The paint is a darker shade (this has been mentioned in the > archives where someone ordered touchup paint for repairing rock dings). Better > test it on a sample piece and check for match UNDER BRIGHT SUNLIGHT before > painting. Otherwise, you would be better off painting all pieces so at least > they match each other. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 17.5k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > > > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:12 AM > To: KC2ATQ@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Paint color numbers > > KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > >I am going to re-paint my cargo trailer to match my PC. Does any know the > >color number of the silver/black on the 1996. I have the top red numbers. > >Also has anyone ever painted a trailer before ?? I am going to remove the box > > >and lights , all the body shop is going to have to do is paint. What is a > >fair price ?? the shop will supply the paint. > >Thanks in advance > >Ride safe > >Jim T > > You can get all the paint color matching infomation by calling Color-Rite > (http://www.color-rite.com/). It is probably where your body shop will get the > paint to match anyway. I know mine goes there when ever they do motorcyle > work. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Free to a good home, thanks to all. Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 18:26:08 PDT Thanks to all for the responses to my query about the effectiveness of the tinted shield. I plan to order the gold mirrored from Competition Accessories to fit my Shoei and my wife said she would sew a case to fit the clear shield and I have a padded case to carry it in the trunk. Hopefully this summer there won't be a boiled potatoe between my shoulders when wearing the full faced lid and I can be a safe and happy PC rider. Des ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:53:20 -0500 From: Keith Wood To: "PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Clearview Hey, Looking for a clearview +5. Let me know if you have one you'd like to get rid of. Keith -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Brackman" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:06:22 -0700 I just purchased an '89 with 7,700 miles on it. I want to open lines of = communications with owners. I have wanted a PC800 since 1989 when a = friend commuted in L.A. with his. So far, I love this bike!! It is in = the Honda shop getting tuned up and all the fluid changed. =20 First, where is the tool kit located? Thanks - Bob Brackman, Sacramento, California So far,=20 I love this bike!!  It is in the Honda shop getting tuned up and = all the=20 fluid changed. 
 
First, where is the tool kit=20 located?
 
Thanks - Bob Brackman, Sacramento,=20 California
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:10:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:09:37 -0500 The tool kit is usually in the right side of the trunk. There is a little divider that keeps it in place there. Welcome to the list. If your tool kit is missing, you may get lucky and find another one on this list. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Brackman" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 11:06 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net I just purchased an '89 with 7,700 miles on it. I want to open lines of communications with owners. I have wanted a PC800 since 1989 when a friend commuted in L.A. with his. So far, I love this bike!! It is in the Honda shop getting tuned up and all the fluid changed. First, where is the tool kit located? Thanks - Bob Brackman, Sacramento, California -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:14:56 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Shipping the PC! Hey guys. It appears that I will be spending a good portion of the summer outside of Washington DC and I'm wondering if any of you have any tips on shipping motorcycles cross country. Who to talk to, how much it might cost, and the like. I've been awarded a fellowship at the Smithsonian Institution which means I'll be there for 10 weeks (give or take) and I really don't want to drive my bike there and back (I live in Seattle). However, I would like to have it there as a commuter, which is what I've been using it for here in Seattle. Anybody done this kind of thing before? Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Neillnsteph T" To: avelectro@uswest.net, annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sunday's (4/30) AZ Republic ad Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:28:12 PDT '96 Honda PC800, new tires, just serv'd. lo mi. top trunk, bright red, xtras, xlnt cond, $4000 (623) 565-6411. ==== This looks like a good price to me! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Shipping the PC! Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:36:23 -0700 Joel-- There are ads in the back of MC magazines for this service. There is one that advertises itself as "AMA approved" or somesuch. I have shipped a scooter in a crate I made myself, sent via common carrier. There are other outfits that lash them in trucks, and specialize in motorcycles. Congrats on the Smithsonian Institution deal! Ain't this a sterling group, and don't you just prove it! Lee ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel Kopp" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:14 PM Subject: PC800: Shipping the PC! > Hey guys. It appears that I will be spending a good portion of the > summer outside of Washington DC and I'm wondering if any of you have any > tips on shipping motorcycles cross country. Who to talk to, how much it > might cost, and the like. I've been awarded a fellowship at the > Smithsonian Institution which means I'll be there for 10 weeks (give or > take) and I really don't want to drive my bike there and back (I live in > Seattle). However, I would like to have it there as a commuter, which is > what I've been using it for here in Seattle. > > Anybody done this kind of thing before? > > Joel Kopp > Seattle > '95 Coaster > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Brackman" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:08:49 -0700 I want to subscribe to the list server, but there does not seem to be a = clear option on how to do that. Thanks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 04:15:54 EDT Subject: PC800: Hmmm... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu First, the painful confession... While attempting to navigate the rather steep hill which forms the SO's parking space, I over balanced- which sounds invincable, when you think about it, like something Superman does when he flies off with three orphans and the statue of liberty- and layed the bike down. Gently. Nothing really damaged, save for a minor scuff- which may well buff right out- on one of the bumpers. (Which has me thinking. The bumpers are very useful. They are, however, a painted and vulnerable plastic surface. I'm off to Menard's or Pep Boys or somesuch for a tube of trim glue and some sturdy rubber strips. I think that rub guards would enhance the protection of the bumpers. (Fairing protectors) I also think that a little rubber, properly applied, would protect the rear light from any possible impact...) Now that I have, as my friend and editor Jim Leatherwood used to say, thoroughly buried the lead... Several days after this, I noticed that the throttle was _not_ closing on it's own. You would think that I'd have noticed this, but... I'm in the habit of closing the throttle manually at all times. I was idling at a light, and, for no reason other than that "great day!" feeling, blipped the throttle. BBBBBRRRaaaaappp!!!! "Holy---!" Clearly, this is dangerous. I thought that something may have bent... But the little accident did not let the control hit the ground. I hauled the PC up by the front end.. Could it have bent then? This weekend, I'll strip the control down, clean and reset it. (Something I was going to do anyway. I have one of those throttle locks on there, and, frankly, I have never really liked them. If anyone wants it, just say so. I'll even pick up the nominal shipping.) Meanwhile... Any thoughts? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Shipping the PC! Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 06:25:48 EDT I shipped a bike across the country last year using United Van Lines. They have a division that specializes in high dollar items like motorcycles, cars, grand pianos, etc. It cost $560 for a Hawk GT to go from Boston to California, and went very smoothly. I'd use them again. Nick >From: Joel Kopp >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Shipping the PC! >Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:14:56 -0700 > >Hey guys. It appears that I will be spending a good portion of the >summer outside of Washington DC and I'm wondering if any of you have any >tips on shipping motorcycles cross country. Who to talk to, how much it >might cost, and the like. I've been awarded a fellowship at the >Smithsonian Institution which means I'll be there for 10 weeks (give or >take) and I really don't want to drive my bike there and back (I live in >Seattle). However, I would like to have it there as a commuter, which is >what I've been using it for here in Seattle. > >Anybody done this kind of thing before? > >Joel Kopp >Seattle >'95 Coaster > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:39:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Shipping the PC! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 06:39:33 -0500 I would think it more "sterling" if he shipped the clothes and household goods and rode the bike. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: ; Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Shipping the PC! > Joel-- > Congrats on the Smithsonian Institution deal! Ain't this a sterling group, > and don't you just prove it! > > Lee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Kopp" I've been awarded a fellowship at the > > Smithsonian Institution which means I'll be there for 10 weeks (give or > > take) and I really don't want to drive my bike there and back (I live in > > Seattle). However, I would like to have it there as a commuter, which is > > what I've been using it for here in Seattle. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Tue, 2 May 2000 08:11:22 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:10:25 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: PC800: UV blocking face shield? To: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail This weekend I was on a ride to Jackson, TN, to go to Casey Jones Village (how many ways can you spell tacky) to commemorate the one hundredth anniversary of his death. With that piece of trivia out of the way, it occurred to me on the ride home, as I looked into the afternoon sun and thought about sun protection, that there must be a UV film that is clear or nearly so and doesn't optically distort that I can put on my faceshield. Frankly I don't like sunburn or, for that matter, the weird tan I get with a motorcycle helmet (don't feel sorry for the poor little baby, I have put up with such for over thirty years on a motorcycle, but as I get older I get a lot crankier). I checked car accessory sources (including JC Whitney) and find only dark tinted films for car windows, that are not legal for the windshield (I presume because of supressed light transmission and thus night visability problems). A web search was highly productive in the number of hits, but not very helpful on the info I need. So, can anyone expand on this? UV film. Clear or not? Useful or not on a face shield? Where can I get it. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Hmmm... Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 06:05:30 -0700 Kendall-- I'll take the throttle lock--it's been on my list--if it hasn't yet been spoken for. RE the throttle binding. Do you have handlebar risers? They affect the overall play in the length of the cable. Did you extend the handlebars to one lock or the other in picking the bike up? If the throttle side was down, and you picked it up with a hand on that grip, I wonder if you just slid the grip toward center so it abrades the throttle lock. I fzzzzzst of WD40 in there might help eliminate/locate that area as the focus of your attention. Regards, Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Throttlelockless" (ohhh......you're bike could be The "LockLess Monster." Oooooooo.) > > While attempting to navigate the rather steep hill which forms the SO's > parking space, I over balanced- which sounds invincable, when you think about > it, like something Superman does when he flies off with three orphans and the > statue of liberty- and layed the bike down. Gently. Nothing really damaged, > save for a minor scuff- which may well buff right out- on one of the bumpers. > > (Which has me thinking. The bumpers are very useful. They are, however, a > painted and vulnerable plastic surface. I'm off to Menard's or Pep Boys or > somesuch for a tube of trim glue and some sturdy rubber strips. I think that > rub guards would enhance the protection of the bumpers. (Fairing protectors) > I also think that a little rubber, properly applied, would protect the rear > light from any possible impact...) > > Now that I have, as my friend and editor Jim Leatherwood used to say, > thoroughly buried the lead... > > Several days after this, I noticed that the throttle was _not_ closing on > it's own. You would think that I'd have noticed this, but... I'm in the habit > of closing the throttle manually at all times. I was idling at a light, and, > for no reason other than that "great day!" feeling, blipped the throttle. > BBBBBRRRaaaaappp!!!! "Holy---!" > > Clearly, this is dangerous. I thought that something may have bent... But the > little accident did not let the control hit the ground. I hauled the PC up by > the front end.. Could it have bent then? > > This weekend, I'll strip the control down, clean and reset it. (Something I > was going to do anyway. I have one of those throttle locks on there, and, > frankly, I have never really liked them. If anyone wants it, just say so. > I'll even pick up the nominal shipping.) > > Meanwhile... Any thoughts? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: UV blocking face shield? Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 06:14:06 -0700 I use a compromise system. I bought some window film years ago at a garage sale. I suspect the stuff is more readily available now. I cut it into strips 1 1/4" wide and about`13 inches long. I have given a bunch of these to friends. I wash the shield and the plastic well, water and soap, dry it, and (helmet off) I put the shield down and apply this strip along the top range of the seethrough part. In normal riding it is unnoticeable; if I am riding into the sunrise or -set I just tuck my chin down so the filter is deployed. Obviously this system does not affect my tan or enhance my Darthossity but it keeps me from carrying two shields and has been effective as described. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David L. Sigsbee" To: "PC800" Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:10 AM Subject: PC800: UV blocking face shield? > This weekend I was on a ride to Jackson, TN, to go to Casey Jones > Village (how many ways can you spell tacky) to commemorate the one > hundredth anniversary of his death. With that piece of trivia out of > the way, it occurred to me on the ride home, as I looked into the > afternoon sun and thought about sun protection, that there must be a UV > film that is clear or nearly so and doesn't optically distort that I can > put on my faceshield. Frankly I don't like sunburn or, for that matter, > the weird tan I get with a motorcycle helmet (don't feel sorry for the > poor little baby, I have put up with such for over thirty years on a > motorcycle, but as I get older I get a lot crankier). > > > I checked car accessory sources (including JC Whitney) and find only > dark tinted films for car windows, that are not legal for the windshield > (I presume because of supressed light transmission and thus night > visability problems). A web search was highly productive in the number > of hits, but not very helpful on the info I need. > > So, can anyone expand on this? UV film. Clear or not? Useful or not > on a face shield? Where can I get it. > > -- > David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 > Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 > The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu > 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 > Memphis, TN 38152-6140 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:19:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Free to a good home, thanks to all. To: Desmond Cockburn , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Be sure to post a pic of you in the gold shield with that boiled "tater"! Good luck --- Desmond Cockburn wrote: > Thanks to all for the responses to my query about > the effectiveness of the > tinted shield. I plan to order the gold mirrored > from Competition > Accessories to fit my Shoei and my wife said she > would sew a case to fit the > clear shield and I have a padded case to carry it in > the trunk. Hopefully > this summer there won't be a boiled potatoe between > my shoulders when > wearing the full faced lid and I can be a safe and > happy PC rider. > > Des > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Tue, 2 May 2000 13:37:24 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:36:27 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: [Re: PC800: UV blocking face shield?] To: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail I have a Nolan N100 John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > What kind of helmet do you have? Shoie face shields are UV rated. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:52:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: UV blocking face shield?] Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:52:09 -0500 Check with your local eyeglass place and see if they can treat the visor with a UV coating. The N100 sheild is GE Lexan with a scratch resistant coating, if they ask. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David L. Sigsbee" To: "PC800" Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:36 PM Subject: [Re: PC800: UV blocking face shield?] > I have a Nolan N100 > > John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > > > What kind of helmet do you have? Shoie face shields are UV rated. > > > > -- > David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 > Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 > The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu > 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 > Memphis, TN 38152-6140 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Steve Wilson" , , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: UV blocking face shield?] Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:43:54 -0700 > Check with your local eyeglass place and see if they can treat the visor > with a UV coating. The N100 sheild is GE Lexan with a scratch resistant > coating, if they ask. > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > And maybe they could grind it to my prescription?:)Lee Barker -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Tue, 02 May 2000 15:11:23 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: df0da65c-1520-11d4-8e3e-0090278757fa ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prapuolenis, Michael S." To: "'Baxter Birch'" cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:09:53 -0500 X-WSS-ID: 1511E9E1119883-01-01 It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being cheap to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. Michael Prapuolenis Wheaton, IL > -----Original Message----- > From: Baxter Birch [SMTP:baxterk@linknet.idt.net] > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 4:50 PM > To: Prapuolenis, Michael S. > Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > Michael, > > What did you find to be the source of your "chirp"? > > Baxter Birch > Greenwell Springs, LA > '91 ST 1100 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Prapuolenis, Michael S. > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:10 AM > Subject: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > > >Peter Noeth wrote: > >Strange thing about the muffler chirp, mine just started doing it > >immediately after the 16K service was done... > > > >Two more points in my continuing search for a chirp free ride. > >My chirp became noticeable after I put the 3+ on. Right before I stopped > >riding a lot in December, I had a tune-up done as well... Coincendence? > I > >don't know! : ) > >On the postive side, I went to the mechanic yesterday. He listened and > >played around with the muffler opening, and is convinced that it is a > loose > >bolt and spacer. He said he has seen it before. Cleaning it, greasing > it, > >and tightening it, silences the chirp. The bolt is behind the panel above > >the muffler. Saturday, I am going back to see if we can fix it. I will > >report back when I am done. > >There is still hope, > >Mp > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 16:22:54 EDT Do you have any details on what is causing the muffler to chirp? Does it have a hole in it from rust? Nick >From: "Prapuolenis, Michael S." >To: "'Baxter Birch'" >CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" >Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound >Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:09:53 -0500 > >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being cheap >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > >Michael Prapuolenis >Wheaton, IL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Baxter Birch [SMTP:baxterk@linknet.idt.net] > > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 4:50 PM > > To: Prapuolenis, Michael S. > > Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > > > Michael, > > > > What did you find to be the source of your "chirp"? > > > > Baxter Birch > > Greenwell Springs, LA > > '91 ST 1100 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Prapuolenis, Michael S. > > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > > Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:10 AM > > Subject: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > > > > > >Peter Noeth wrote: > > >Strange thing about the muffler chirp, mine just started doing it > > >immediately after the 16K service was done... > > > > > >Two more points in my continuing search for a chirp free ride. > > >My chirp became noticeable after I put the 3+ on. Right before I >stopped > > >riding a lot in December, I had a tune-up done as well... Coincendence? > > I > > >don't know! : ) > > >On the postive side, I went to the mechanic yesterday. He listened and > > >played around with the muffler opening, and is convinced that it is a > > loose > > >bolt and spacer. He said he has seen it before. Cleaning it, greasing > > it, > > >and tightening it, silences the chirp. The bolt is behind the panel >above > > >the muffler. Saturday, I am going back to see if we can fix it. I >will > > >report back when I am done. > > >There is still hope, > > >Mp > > > > > >-- > > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 16:41:52 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound To: MPrapuol@sidley.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) MPrapuol@sidley.com writes: >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being cheap >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > >Michael Prapuolenis >Wheaton, IL So does that make you Michael "Cheap Chirp" Prapuolenis? Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:44:43 -0500 by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 02:00:51 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Bob Brackman" , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:00:30 +0200 To subscribe to the list, send "subscribe pc800" (without " ") in the body (not the subject line) of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. After sending you will get an automated confirmation message you have to reply to (instructions inside that message). To search the list archives go to http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800 . Greetings, Emile http://st1100.net http://go.to/pc800 http://piloot.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bob Brackman To: Sent: dinsdag 2 mei 2000 7:08 Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net I want to subscribe to the list server, but there does not seem to be a clear option on how to do that. Thanks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:44:46 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:21:33 -0500 From: Tony Miller To: Bob Brackman CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To subscribe, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: subscribe pc800 I think that's all that's needed. I know you can put your name at the end, but I don't know if that is required. Note that it is not the same address as the one for sending messages to the list. Tony > Bob Brackman wrote: > > I want to subscribe to the list server, but there does not seem to be > a clear option on how to do that. Thanks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:44:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 06:50:03 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net To: bbrackman@saber.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) bbrackman@saber.net writes: >I want to subscribe to the list server, but there does not seem to be a clear >option on how to do that. Thanks. Honda Pacific Coast owners' email list: To subscribe to the list, send "subscribe pc800" (without " ") in the body of a message (not the subject line) to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu Welcome to the List... Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Tue, 02 May 2000 16:01:20 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: df0da65c-1520-11d4-8e3e-0090278757fa ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prapuolenis, Michael S." To: "'pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us'" , "Prapuolenis, Michael S." cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:59:50 -0500 X-WSS-ID: 15119DAA125190-01-01 The rider is cheap-cheap and the bike goes chirp-chirp. Who says Dr. Seuss is dead! : ) Mp > -----Original Message----- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us [SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:42 PM > To: MPrapuol@sidley.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > MPrapuol@sidley.com writes: > >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! > >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one > >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being > cheap > >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > > > >Michael Prapuolenis > >Wheaton, IL > > So does that make you Michael "Cheap Chirp" Prapuolenis? > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:11:20 -0700 If you can spare it off the bike for awhile, you might take it to your local custom coach (sheetmetal expert) for a quote on "restoration" or even a Stainless Steel replica? Rusting/rattling mufflers are a fact of life for four-strokes. Maybe we can find someone willing to build a few Stainless Steel mufflers for us - They should make some money at $500 apiece. Better that than $500 for a factory replacement doomed to the same fate. Jeff Krause 95 PC "Invisible Twin" 34K Mi. (does somebody own this name already?) > -----Original Message----- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us [SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:42 PM > To: MPrapuol@sidley.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > MPrapuol@sidley.com writes: > >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! > >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one > >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being > cheap > >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > > > >Michael Prapuolenis > >Wheaton, IL > > So does that make you Michael "Cheap Chirp" Prapuolenis? > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "pc800listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 22:35:25 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! > Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one > won't develop a chirp in a year or two Mine too. And back fires on over run. Not a good sign. I recall seeing a picture somewhere of a PC with some Shadow exhausts on it. I have just been looking around the net but I cant find it again. I am considering getting my local custom shop to make up a set of pipes, as £500 for an exhaust system seems a tad excessive! Anyone know the URL of the picture of the Shadow piped PC? Russ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1 '89 PC800 "Obelix" Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: PC800: Looking for PC in Northern California (SF Bay) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --0-1804289383-957313198=:11916 Hello to everyone on the PC800 List! My name is Tom Boles, and after not riding for the last 10 years, My wife & I have decided to ride again and we want a Honda Pacific Coast. Our last bike was an '81 Suzuki GS850G that we rode in SoCal, St. Croix USVI and here in the SF Bay area. We have been looking here in the area for the last 2 weeks with limited sucess. There is a Green (yes, green- I saw it myself) '90 in Daily City, CA. It has been left outside near the ocean and all the plastic switches Etc are very faded and there is a fair amount of rust on all the metal & corrosion on the wheels. There is an '89 at Honda of Milpitas (Sorry, I'm not keen on the color). There WAS a '90 in Milbrae, but it was sold the day before I could get to see it (Damm!). And that is about it.. So: We are looking for a '90 or newer, preferably Red, PC800 within a couple hundred miles of San Francisco. If anyone can help, please let me know! Thanks! Tom Boles 650-345-2149 tom_boles@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1804289383-957313198=:11916

Hello to everyone on the PC800 List!

My name is Tom Boles, and after not riding for the last 10 years, My wife & I have decided to ride again and we want a Honda Pacific Coast. Our last bike was an '81 Suzuki GS850G that we rode in SoCal, St. Croix USVI and here in the SF Bay area.

We have been looking here in the area for the last 2 weeks with limited sucess. There is a Green (yes, green- I saw it myself) '90 in Daily City, CA. It has been left outside near the ocean and all the plastic switches Etc are very faded and there is a fair amount of rust on all the metal & corrosion on the wheels. There is an '89 at Honda of Milpitas (Sorry, I'm not keen on the color). There WAS a '90 in Milbrae, but it was sold the day before I could get to see it (Damm!). And that is about it..

So: We are looking for a '90 or newer, preferably Red, PC800 within a couple hundred miles of San Francisco. If anyone can help, please let me know!

Thanks!

Tom Boles

650-345-2149

tom_boles@yahoo.com


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Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1804289383-957313198=:11916-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:46:18 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound To: r.goff@zetnet.co.uk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Russ, The dual exhaust you are looking for on the net is on the PC800 web site. The URL is: http://pc800.tripod.com/adm/popup/roadmap.shtml?member_name=pc800&path=pc800mo deng.html&client_ip=152.163.188.198&ts=957314299&ad_type=POPUP&id=fedb924847f1 51128cb71494d675f407 Just copy the above and paste it into your browser. It should take you right to the pictures of the dual exhaust. The exhaust pictured in this is for a Honda Shadow Spirit VT1100. If someone can put one of these exhausts on a PC, does this also imply that we may be able to retrofit other Shadow exhaust systems on to a PC? Has anyone else tried other types of exhaust? Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '96 PC800 "Red Rover" 17,800 miles and climbing -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:13:31 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Thfwsf@aol.com wrote: >... does this also imply that we may be > able to retrofit other Shadow exhaust systems on to a PC? Has anyone else > tried other types of exhaust? Tom, pretty much anything is retrofittable if you have enough money. I am sure the australian firm Staintune would be willing to manufacture a a short run of PC exhaust systems in Stainless steel, but I shudder to think how much they would cost (regular production pipes from them _start_ at around $1,000 =:-O -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:15:14 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roy Cummings" To: "Pacific Coast Net" Subject: PC800: Windshield Wanted Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:15:14 -0400 Hi All, I need a windshield. I don't care what kind (as long as it's for a = PC!). Standard, tall, aftermarket, factory - all considered. You're = not using the old one anyway! Let me know how much you want. I'm = waiting to hear from you! Best wishes, Roy Cummings -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:22:55 -0400 To: "Prapuolenis, Michael S." From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" At 3:09 PM -0500 5/2/00, Prapuolenis, Michael S wrote: >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being cheap >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > >Michael Prapuolenis >Wheaton, IL Hi Michael... Does this mean your new nickname is "Canary"? .....cheap cheap cheap cheap....... :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:57:35 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:53:12 -0500 I took the pictures of the PC with the Shadow duals. The guy that did the work said that it took about 8 hours to do all the cutting, fitting and welding. It sounds pretty good, just not like a PC, more like a Shadow. The owner claims better top end power but I haven't ridden it to know. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > Russ, > > The dual exhaust you are looking for on the net is on the PC800 web site. > The URL is: > > http://pc800.tripod.com/adm/popup/roadmap.shtml?member_name=pc800&path=p c800mo > deng.html&client_ip=152.163.188.198&ts=957314299&ad_type=POPUP&id=fedb92 4847f1 > 51128cb71494d675f407 > > Just copy the above and paste it into your browser. It should take you right > to the pictures of the dual exhaust. > > The exhaust pictured in this is for a Honda Shadow Spirit VT1100. If someone > can put one of these exhausts on a PC, does this also imply that we may be > able to retrofit other Shadow exhaust systems on to a PC? Has anyone else > tried other types of exhaust? > > Tom Fraser > Manassas, VA > '96 PC800 "Red Rover" > 17,800 miles and climbing > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:49:24 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Baxter Birch" To: Subject: PC800: Fw: non ST: Bubba Blackwell Mobile AL Jump Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:38:51 -0500 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Baxter Birch To: st1100@st1100.com Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: non ST: Bubba Blackwell Mobile AL Jump >FWIW, > >For those into this sort of thing, Bubba Blackwell will be making a jump on >May 13, @ 2:00pm in Hank Aaron Stadium in Mobile, AL. This is in >association w/ the Grand Opening of Mobile Bay H-D. Tickets are $2 at the >gate or free from Mobile Bay H-D. > >I am not associated w/ the event, just a fan of Bubba's. You may recall, >Bubba jumps on a H-D XR 750! Last of the REAL motorcycle jumpers IMO. > >Baxter Birch >Greenwell Springs, LA >STOC #1140 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" , "HSTA" Subject: PC800: Spark plug Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 06:45:36 -0400 I call upon the spark plug experts for this one. I'm planning a 2 week tour to Nevada, Utah and Idaho the 1st weeks of Aug. It will be HOT. I currently use NGK NPR-7EA-9 plugs. Which way should I go for 500+ mile 90+ F days? And what is the advantage? Thanks Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:10:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: re: UV blocking face shield? I'm pretty sure that the plastic in most face shields does filter out a substantial amount of UVA and UVB radiation -- but not all, which is why we get burned. If I'm going to be doing a lot of riding, I carry a small bottle of sunscreen, and apply it to my face. I particularly like the oil-free spray sunscreens. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BHerndon@morningstar-group.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:54:30 -0500 Subject: PC800: RE:PC800 Sighting To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In Dallas, heading eastbound in the East I-30 HOV lane around 5pm on Tuesday, May 2nd, Red PC (not sure what year), . I was in the cage and stuck in the afternoon traffic, otherwise I would have given chase! Anyone on the list? Thanks. Brad Herndon 98' PC800 (Nameless) Mesquite,TX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:05:24 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: MTW Cc: PC800 , HSTA Subject: Re: PC800: Spark plug Mail-Followup-To: MTW , PC800 , HSTA Spark plug "hotness" has nothing to do with the weather. The weather varies by, say, 0~F in Alaska to 130~F. The combustion temperature inside the combustion chamber of your engine is thousands of degrees higher. Here's a good article about it all: http://www.mazdatrix.com/ign-2.htm The NPR-7EA-9 will be fine. -- Daniel MacKay Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > I'm planning a 2 week tour to Nevada, Utah and Idaho the 1st weeks of Aug. > It will be HOT. I currently use NGK NPR-7EA-9 plugs. > Which way should I go for 500+ mile 90+ F days? And what is the advantage? > Thanks > > Mike Whited ' 94 PC > > Columbus Ohio > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:09:51 -0700 From: Joel Kopp To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC to DC Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry about shipping my PC to DC. Driving remains an option, but I prefer shipping at this point because interstate driving is my LEAST favorite kind of riding, and I would probably be on interstates the whole way to minimize transit time. Must consider the options further, however . . . Thanks again for the input. Stay tuned for details. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster Joel Kopp wrote: > Hey guys. It appears that I will be spending a good portion of the > summer outside of Washington DC and I'm wondering if any of you have any > tips on shipping motorcycles cross country. Who to talk to, how much it > might cost, and the like. I've been awarded a fellowship at the > Smithsonian Institution which means I'll be there for 10 weeks (give or > take) and I really don't want to drive my bike there and back (I live in > Seattle). However, I would like to have it there as a commuter, which is > what I've been using it for here in Seattle. > > Anybody done this kind of thing before? > > Joel Kopp > Seattle > '95 Coaster > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: FW: CarBuyer Notifier Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:26:25 -0700 > This is your CarBuyer Notifier > ======================================================= > 1989 Honda Pacific coast $4500 in ORLANDO, FL > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=133072 > > ======================================================= > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: Rear Shocks Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:29:43 -0400 Listers - How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? I'm asking because I think this may be happening on my 95 PC. With 22K on the odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension area. Every time I stand up and sit down I will hear that creaky spring sound! I'm only 190 lbs and 98% of my riding is 1-up...so I know overloading is *not* a factor. Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? Comments/thoughts appreciated! Thanks! Bob Reinhardt 1995 Pacific Coast (22K) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-65117U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:45:35 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dsharum@data-tronics.com (David Sharum) To: "'pc800'" Subject: FW: PC800: Rear Shocks Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 22:46:27 -0500 Importance: Normal I have a 95 also... same creaking spring noise from the rear. 9k miles.... I have don't think my shocks are out... just a creak every once in a while. David 95 pc800 (9k) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu] On Behalf Of Reinhardt, Bob Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:30 AM To: 'PC800' Subject: PC800: Rear Shocks Listers - How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? I'm asking because I think this may be happening on my 95 PC. With 22K on the odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension area. Every time I stand up and sit down I will hear that creaky spring sound! I'm only 190 lbs and 98% of my riding is 1-up...so I know overloading is *not* a factor. Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? Comments/thoughts appreciated! Thanks! Bob Reinhardt 1995 Pacific Coast (22K) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:47:19 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Reinhardt, Bob" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:36:46 -0500 Bob, check the rubber bushing on the bottom of the left (adjustable) shock and see if you don't see rubber hanging out of the gap between the shock and the swingarm. Even if you don't see rubber hanging out, I wouldn't hurt to take the shock loose on that side and check the bushing. I bet it is worn through on the top side. New bushings are cheap. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'PC800'" Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: PC800: Rear Shocks > Listers - > > How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? I'm asking > because I think this may be happening on my 95 PC. With 22K on the > odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is > a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension > area. Every time I stand up and sit down I will hear that creaky spring > sound! I'm only 190 lbs and 98% of my riding is 1-up...so I know > overloading is *not* a factor. Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm > unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? > Comments/thoughts appreciated! > > Thanks! > Bob Reinhardt > 1995 Pacific Coast (22K) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:50:19 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: David Sharum Cc: "'pc800'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Rear Shocks Mail-Followup-To: David Sharum , 'pc800' I only have the creaking when I have have a "person of girth" as a passenger. -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <20000503125019.B4592@noc.dal.ca> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:20:36 -0400 To: Daniel MacKay From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Rear Shocks Cc: David Sharum , "'pc800'" At 12:50 PM -0300 5/3/00, Daniel MacKay wrote: >I only have the creaking when I have have a "person of girth" as a >passenger. Hi Dan. Is your passenger from Northern Girth, or Southern Girth? I spent some time in Girth last year, and I really liked it. I have a cousin who is of Girth as well.... Ride thin.... fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:34:47 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks "Reinhardt, Bob" wrote: > ... Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm > unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? > Comments/thoughts appreciated! Usually, the creaking sound you hear comes from the spring rubbing against a dirty shock body. The spring then vibrates like a violin string. Cleaning the outside of the shock and coating it with a light lubricant like silicone will stop the creaking. Several of us have had problems with the shock bushings wearing out. I suggest you remove the shocks and inspect the bushings. I was lucky, mine were replaced under warranty. On the subject of bushings, I finally located an accesible lathe. Now all I need is to lean how to use it and I will be able to experiment making bushings out of UHMMV plastic. Don't hold your breath tho... -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:40:27 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Rear Shocks To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <39106337.9F412CAA@topcat.sfos.uaf.edu> If you were a little closer I'd teach you how to use it Juan, but only if you are as skilled as an 8th grade student:-) (raging hormones not required) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu writes: >"Reinhardt, Bob" wrote: >> ... Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm >> unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? >> Comments/thoughts appreciated! > >Usually, the creaking sound you hear comes from the spring rubbing against a >dirty shock body. The spring then vibrates like a violin string. Cleaning the >outside of the shock and coating it with a light lubricant like silicone will >stop the creaking. > >Several of us have had problems with the shock bushings wearing out. I suggest >you remove the shocks and inspect the bushings. I was lucky, mine were replaced >under warranty. On the subject of bushings, I finally located an accesible >lathe. Now all I need is to lean how to use it and I will be able to experiment >making bushings out of UHMMV plastic. Don't hold your breath tho... > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks >Fairbanks, Alaska >(907)474-5520 >Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W >------------------------------------------------- >Second star on the right, >then straight on 'til morning... > * > > * * > * > * > * * > > * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:54:37 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? With 22K on the odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension area. I put that "creaking" in the Inherent Characteristics category of the PC800. The Stealth has groaned and creaked since Day One and is especially evident when 2-up. My mech checked out the ride after the Big Rebuild in Feb and said the shock was fine. Guess I'll only know when it goes out if it bottoms out and doesn't come back up! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (113K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:00:29 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks <39106337.9F412CAA@topcat.sfos.uaf.edu> Tim Davies wrote: > > If you were a little closer I'd teach you how to use it Juan, but only if > you are as skilled as an 8th grade student:-) (raging hormones not required) Hi Tim. No comment about the hormones, raging or otherwise :-) I've been around machinery pretty much all my life, so I know that a lathe is not something you want to learn to use at home via a mail course heh, heh, heh... (Cue in shop teacher scene from UHF :) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 03 May 2000 13:18:55 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: df0da65c-1520-11d4-8e3e-0090278757fa ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prapuolenis, Michael S." To: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" , "Prapuolenis, Michael S." cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:17:24 -0500 X-WSS-ID: 150EB205181377-01-01 Jeez, this discussion is for the birds! : ) Mp > -----Original Message----- > From: Francois Saint Laurent [SMTP:fsl@borgconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:23 PM > To: Prapuolenis, Michael S. > Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Chirping Sound > > At 3:09 PM -0500 5/2/00, Prapuolenis, Michael S wrote: > >It is the muffler, unfortunately. To replace it is something like $500! > >Based on other's comments, replacement doesn't guarantee that the new one > >won't develop a chirp in a year or two. I guess you can add my being > cheap > >to my chirp and know that I'll be working on getting used to the chirp. > > > >Michael Prapuolenis > >Wheaton, IL > > > Hi Michael... > > Does this mean your new nickname is "Canary"? > > > .....cheap cheap cheap cheap....... > > > :-) > > -- > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E666SKCP; Wed, 03 May 2000 18:05:42 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:58:14 -0400 Subject: PC800: Boston News From: "Harvey P. Sattin" It is now legal in the city of Boston, to park two motorcycles in one parking space. If the meter runs out, both bikes get tickets. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:35:54 -0500 Hey all, Made my hotel reservations last night for the Hoot and am currently researching directions. I will be at the Days Inn on Patton Ave. near downtown Asheville. I plan on leaving St. Louis Tuesday morning and stopping overnight before arriving in Asheville Wed., 21 June. According to Mapquest, it is about 620 miles from my door to the hotel and I am not real keen to push just to make it in one day. Will leave Asheville Sunday and arrive St. Louis Mon., 26 June. If anyone is interested in riding along or meeting along the way, the current itinerary looks like I64 out of St. Louis to I-57 to I-24 to I-40 into Asheville. It looks like Nashville is very close (if not on) the route so I may overnight in Nashville Tuesday night on the way out. This is my first really long (500 miles+) trip and I am really looking forward to it. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 3 May 2000 18:03:04 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Reinhardt, Bob" , "'PC800'" Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:02:58 -0500 Bob, I creak too when getting up and down, even when I'm not on the bike. Seriously, I noticed this, too, but rebound and handling don't seem to be affected, of course YMMV. --Ralph ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'PC800'" Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: PC800: Rear Shocks > Listers - > > How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? I'm asking > because I think this may be happening on my 95 PC. With 22K on the > odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is > a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension > area. Every time I stand up and sit down I will hear that creaky spring > sound! I'm only 190 lbs and 98% of my riding is 1-up...so I know > overloading is *not* a factor. Is there (maybe) a lubrication point I'm > unaware of for the rear suspension?? Are the shocks dead?? > Comments/thoughts appreciated! > > Thanks! > Bob Reinhardt > 1995 Pacific Coast (22K) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:49:41 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Rear Shocks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu << I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and sit down there is > a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming from the rear suspension > area. Every time I stand up and sit down I will hear that creaky spring >> While I had the rear shocks off recently, I noticed the "sound" was caused (at least on mine) by the spring of the right side rubbing on the shock. As was already posted, clean and lubricate. The downside is the lube will attract dirt and so the time between maintenance may be short. YMMV Alan in Houston 89' Rifle +2 Vista Cruise Tour Master tankbag Utopia Driver's backrest Hondaline passenger backrest Dunlop K555's Mobil 1 15w-50 Cycle Mate CM 2000 trailer Hitch Doc hitch GenMar risers - ahhhh! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:52:06 -0500 From: William Drake To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Creaking noise Hi everybody, Hope everyone has been out enjoying the weather, but to the point ! Today while at slow speeds/stopping I heard a creaking/groaning noise from the left fork area, it occurred twice and all appeared ok from a visual inspection. I checked the thread and could not really find anything on this. Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen. Bill Drake '97 PC800 Bolingbrook, IL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:55:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Winelander Run Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:55:04 -0500 Hi gang! Well, I decided to start small with a group activity. Tentatively scheduled for May 20 (Saturday) anyone interested can meet me on the River side of the Missouri State Capitol building between 9:00 and 9:30 a.m. We will leave Jefferson City and go north on Route 179 to Interstate 70. Then go west about 4 miles to the Rocheport exit. Riding through Rocheport, we will pick up U.S. 40 to Route J, then south on route J (which becomes Route O) through the river town of Huntsdale, across the (newly paved) flats to Route K and into southern Columbia. We will take Route 163 off of Route K, through Rock Bridge State Park to U.S. 63. We go south on 63 to just north of Jefferson City to Route 94. Go east on Route 94 to the town of Hermann, where we will stop for lunch. After lunch, we will take Route 100 back to Jefferson City where the ride will officially end. Total trip (if I added right) is about 185 miles, a nice run for those who might be riding back home that night. This route takes us through most of Missouri's wine country (Please, no snickers from Californians), hence the name. This is all very informal and unofficial and is sort of a test for me to see if I can successfully organize and pull off the planned "No-Coast Ride" later on. Hope to see as many of you as can make it. Thanx, Ralph Couey (H) 573.446.0545 (W) 660.882.6200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: re: UV blocking face shield? Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 06:01:51 -0700 I particularly > like the oil-free spray sunscreens. > > Here we go....another oil-free thread........ Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 07:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: cj russell To: "Roy Cummings" , Pacific Coast Net Subject: RE: PC800: Windshield Wanted I've got a standard with edging for ya, just pay the postage! -CJ Russell 89 "Therapy" ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roy Cummings" To: "Pacific Coast Net" Sent: May 3, 2000 1:15:14 AM GMT Subject: PC800: Windshield Wanted Hi All, I need a windshield. I don't care what kind (as long as it's for a PC!). Standard, tall, aftermarket, factory - all considered. You're not using the old one anyway! Let me know how much you want. I'm waiting to hear from you! Best wishes, Roy Cummings ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 08:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Rear Shocks "Reinhardt, Bob" writes: > How can you tell when your rear shocks need replacement?? I'm > asking because I think this may be happening on my 95 PC. With 22K > on the odometer, I'm very aware that when I straddle the bike and > sit down there is a noticeable sound like a creaking spring coming > from the rear suspension area. Every time I stand up and sit down > I will hear that creaky spring sound! My brand new Works Performance shocks make the same noise, for the same reason. Before I put them on I noticed that the spring and spacer rings were a very tight fit; I sprayed some silicone lube on the rings before I mounted the shock, but it still creaks. That said, the stock shocks aren't that great when new, and I found that they had deteriorated noticeably by 20,000 miles, so I replaced them. The only options are Works Performance, and the French units (air adjustable) that have been mentioned recently. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 05:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot To: Mark Gilb , pc800 mailinglist Mark, Drink lots of fluids, IMHO helps with fatigue. If you want to go with a group - The magazines' Motorcyclist and Motorcycle Cruiser (they like metric cruisers) are having three separate rides from three separate cities to The Hoot. If I was going, I'd join in. I didn't bring the magazines to work to be able to give you all details, I will try to post them on Saturday. If someone has their copy more at hand - please post them. The latest issue of Cruiser, which I got last night - has directions and details - two groups leave at 8 a.m. the other at 9 a.m. It's just a one day ride - so it'd be the last leg of your tour. No public webpages - they do have email addresses. > This is my first really long (500 miles+) trip and > I am really looking > forward to it. > > ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: What is in there? To: PC 800 List As you all know, I just got the PC800, so I still in the discovery phase. I discovered: how to knock off the side mirror on the gate post while parking it and... how to put it back on. that I am getting 44-48 MPG! but I am trying to discover...maybe you know already.. Looking at the ducktail of the PC800, I am thinking out loud "....what a great place to store a tool kit!...." Then you open the back and look up under the lid and then say"....just what is up in there?.." So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment for Metamucil? Second battery? Blow-up Doll? ????? ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 06:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: 2nd East Coast Ride Canceled (groan) To: PC 800 List Sorry, Thanks for the few who gave dates. The number interested was less than five. Okay,less than three. That's fine... I hope to see you all at Americade. We should all use FSL's booth as a PC800 check-in area, well...at least say "hi" to the poor man {don't tell FSL though ;-) } oops - time for rapid response call...see you... ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 08:10:57 -0500 "PC800: What is in there?" (May 4, 5:59am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Had the same thoughts myself. Looks like a great place for a mercury switch and a trunk light. Or a hyperdrive shunt. About that name: How about Mystery Ducktail? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:12:16 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? To: christoffer_carstanjen@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Of all the choices you have given below, I think "personal flotation device" would best describe the use for the ducktail space. I suggest you not hang on for too long though as your cycle sinks into the murky deep:-) Those of us who have installed Honda's best PC800 bargain, interior trunk lights @$28, know that there is just a void in there. You have to remove the seat, all the screws inside the trunk lid, and carefully disengage the plastic tabs on the plastic as it is removed. I'm sure there are a couple other screws to remove too. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" christoffer_carstanjen@yahoo.com writes: > >As you all know, I just got the PC800, so I still in >the discovery phase. > >I discovered: > >how to knock off the side mirror on the gate post >while parking it and... >how to put it back on. >that I am getting 44-48 MPG! > >but I am trying to discover...maybe you know already.. > >Looking at the ducktail of the PC800, I am thinking >out loud "....what a great place to store a tool >kit!...." > >Then you open the back and look up under the lid and >then say"....just what is up in there?.." > >So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? >Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? >Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment >for Metamucil? Second battery? Blow-up Doll? > >????? > > > >===== >Christoffer Carstanjen - >98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Thu, 4 May 2000 13:19:17 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Cc: BernieK469@aol.com (Bernie), pcstarship@home.com (Ralph Couey) Subject: Re: PC800: Winelander Run Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:19:16 +0000 Hello, PC list members! Ralph, this sounds like a great ride. Thank you for organizing it. Having lived in Jeff City a number of years, I am familiar with some of the roads you are including. You've done a good job of laying out an excellent route, with fun roads and nice scenery. I hope to be there. That weekend is the tail end of a vacation week for me, but I think it will work with our other plans. Any riders coming from western Missouri/Kansas/any points west want to meet in the Kansas City area and ride to Jefferson City together? -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > Hi gang! > > Well, I decided to start small with a group activity. Tentatively scheduled > for May 20 (Saturday) anyone interested can meet me on the River side of the > Missouri State Capitol building between 9:00 and 9:30 a.m. We will leave > Jefferson City and go north on Route 179 to Interstate 70. Then go west > about 4 miles to the Rocheport exit. Riding through Rocheport, we will pick > up U.S. 40 to Route J, then south on route J (which becomes Route O) through > the river town of Huntsdale, across the (newly paved) flats to Route K and > into southern Columbia. > > We will take Route 163 off of Route K, through Rock Bridge State Park to > U.S. 63. We go south on 63 to just north of Jefferson City to Route 94. Go > east on Route 94 to the town of Hermann, where we will stop for lunch. > After lunch, we will take Route 100 back to Jefferson City where the ride > will officially end. Total trip (if I added right) is about 185 miles, a > nice run for those who might be riding back home that night. > > This route takes us through most of Missouri's wine country (Please, no > snickers from Californians), hence the name. > > This is all very informal and unofficial and is sort of a test for me to see > if I can successfully organize and pull off the planned "No-Coast Ride" > later on. > > Hope to see as many of you as can make it. > > Thanx, > Ralph Couey > (H) 573.446.0545 > (W) 660.882.6200 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Thu, 4 May 2000 06:52:03 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Christoffer Carstanjen" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 06:53:10 -0700 My biggest peave about the PC800. With space being at a premium on motorcycles, it is disgusting to see that wonderful space wasted. I always wanted easy access to that area. The only way to access it is to take the passenger seat off which is not convenient as many people have found out. Oh well, at least on the ST1100 I have access to that area, and what a great place to carry my tools, registration, owners manual, first aid kit, and tire repair kit without using any of my valuable luggage space! Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Christoffer Carstanjen >how to knock off the side mirror on the gate post >while parking it and... >how to put it back on. [snip] >Looking at the ducktail of the PC800, I am thinking >out loud "....what a great place to store a tool >kit!...." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:00:33 -0400 To: Christoffer Carstanjen From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Cc: PC 800 List At 5:59 AM -0700 5/4/00, Christoffer Carstanjen wrote: > >So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? >Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? >Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment >for Metamucil? Second battery? Blow-up Doll? > Yeah....that's it...that blow up thing... I agree, it is a great place to put something. Too bad Honda didn't give a way to access it! It would make a good location for something that you do not need to access, such as the control unit for an alarm, or an amplifier or base unit for a CB/Stereo, etc. I think someone on the list has even permanently mounted a built in third brake light in that location. Let us know what great creative use you find for it. Ride safe... fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:05:17 -0400 To: Christoffer Carstanjen From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: 2nd East Coast Ride Canceled (groan) Cc: PC 800 List At 6:11 AM -0700 5/4/00, Christoffer Carstanjen wrote: >I hope to see you all at Americade. We should all use >FSL's booth as a PC800 check-in area, well...at least >say "hi" to the poor man {don't tell FSL though ;-) } Great idea....but just to set the record straight, it's not 'my booth'. I will be helping out at a friends booth. So stop by at the Sport Touring Accessories booth and say hi to me, and to Rob and Leslie. If it will be like years past, then I should be able to park my PC at the booth, so folks will see if/when I am around, and to show some of the stuff mounted. (Clearview, Saeng edging, STA lights, Throttle Rocker, etc...) I believe that STA has the same location again this year, so it would be a good place to meet since the food area is right across from it. I hope to see some of you there..... fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:50:47 -0500 To: PC 800 List From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Non PC - Do NOT open attachment / "ILOVEYOU" <20000504125940.17617.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> All - I resist passing on information about emails and viruses and such, but we are getting hit pretty hard on this one here at work... This one is very, very real, and worldwide. I'm somewhat surprised that this hasn't accidentally hit the PC list yet (but it still could, hence this warning...). It is an email with the subject line "ILOVEYOU". It has an Visual Basic script attachment which WHEN OPENED, goes through and automatically re-mails itself to everyone in your address book. Through my contacts with other companies, I have heard first hand that an administrator at another company has received it 500 times so far today... Supposedly it started in/around Hong Kong just yesterday afternoon. Do NOT open the attachment - Trash it immediately, then go delete it from your trash file. See this for more info: http://foxnews.com/vtech/050400/bug.sml Rich Fenwick Network Analyst (and PC owner...) NovaNET Learning -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Thu, 4 May 2000 11:20:08 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:19:06 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC - Do NOT open attachment / "ILOVEYOU" To: PC 800 List Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail <20000504125940.17617.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> <4.1.20000504103732.00b4add0@medusa.nn.com> Rich is right and let me reinforce what he says. It has hit some computers on this campus, and hit almost all of the computers on one of our community college campuses. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gcastle@mail.neptune.on.ca To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Date: Thu, 4 May 100 16:47:26 +0000 > > So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? > Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? > Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment? This one you'll have ask TIM !!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:24:57 EDT Subject: PC800: ME 880 tires... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu List, I am going to purchase a set of Metzelers for the PC. I was wondering if any one knows where to get the cheapest price? I have searched the archives and found a couple places. While searching the archives I came across a message stating that you could get the 150/90-15 to fit the on the rear. (I run K555's right now) The K555's are a 1/2 inch wider across than the me880's. Has anyone ever done this?? My load capacity would be increased and that would be a good thing. Also stated that that the 150/90-15 would still be under the 1/2 inch width. Help! Thanks all.........need tires in the worst way! Todd Skar '89PC 12k "Poseidon" G.B. , WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:28:47 PDT I’ve been a good bike, really I have! I’m quiet and reliable. I’ve carried Tim and Nan on some amazing journeys since 1994 when they bought me new. He wanted me to plow through the snows and high winds of Wyoming, South Dakota and Missouri in February, no less, just because he wanted to go see what Daytona was all about. Nan somehow always manages to find a “shortcut” on the map that includes dirt and gravel. I’ve uncomplainingly dragged the two of them up and down the Sierras and the Rockies more times than I can count. They ask me to do 700 to a thousand miles in a day---no problem. Just keep feeding me gas and keep the tires full. Change my oil regularly and don’t forget the spark plugs need changing occasionally. That’s all I ask. So was it my fault that at 95K my rear end went? Yours would to if some moron mechanic in Orlando forgot to grease you during a tire change. And could I help it if my stator finally quit after 97,000 miles of industrious output? Hey, things wear out! And I certainly didn’t have anything to do with the mud on the blind curve that was my downfall at 108K. That hurt! I have scars… I’d heard Tim and Nan talking about getting a bigger bike to “keep me company” many times in the past. Just figured that was all it was…talk. They do that. A lot. And I was mildly surprised on the 15th of April when the two of them got in the car and drove off. They hardly ever take the car anywhere. At least not together. But it was downright shocking when the garage door opens later that afternoon and Tim rides in on a brand new ST1100! And he had this great big grin on his face—that same grin that I thought was reserved for me when we’d had an especially fine day together tackling twisties and running in the wind. And look at that prissy little bitch just sitting over there posing for invisible cameras. I used to be that shiny too. But that was 113K and many roads ago. And now people stop by just to look at her…my, how she eats up that attention. And Tim talks about how she’ll take them all over the country and oh, yeah, she has this huge gas tank and we’re going to buy her new goodies to make her even better. And me? I’m dismissed as the “commuter bike”; still reliable but relegated to short trips around the area. Like I’m old or something. And they have the audacity to name her “STealthmobile II”! I won’t even go there…. And then last Saturday Tim and Nan decide to bail out on their responsibilities and head down to northern California for that Grand Tour checkpoint on the Klamath Highway. But who isn’t ready to go the distance? Yeah, you…you insolent…well, let’s just say I don’t usually use the words I’m thinking. So once again they stuff the bags in my trunk, slap the tankbag on, and head out of town way too late to be doing anything remotely resembling a leisurely ride. But they do it anyway, running down to Happy Camp and back up to Grants Pass for the night. Can Prissy Baby give them 500 miles in nine hours? Not sitting in a garage…! But I’m tired. My joints are creaky and I’m cranky. I wanted to rest some more in the morning but they wanted to get home early. And just south of Eugene I can feel it—my exhaust manifold is really starting to hurt a lot. I tried to hold together but the fatigue was just too much. Within ten miles I go from being the quietest bike on the road to a Harley wannabe. I know I can get them home, but oh, the headache I gave Tim from the noise! Serves him right… So now I’m broken---and broken-hearted. Instead of going out for the daily romp into Portland I sit here in the garage waiting for that damned cat to spray my tires. I know that my new manifold is on the way, but now Tim’s talking about doing some more much-needed maintenance. Finally! How many times have I told him in the past to at least stop riding long enough to minister to my complaints? But the real heartbreak is that now he has to ride that Bitch to work. All I can hope for is that it rains every day so she at least gets her skirts wet. Then maybe she’ll stop being so aloof and at least talk to me at night. I’m so lonely… ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --0-1804289383-957465621=:26644 Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California may have hit paydirt! Now, I need some help. The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the one I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires (?). So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in good shape? Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used motorcycle things?) Noise in muffler rust on muffler scratches in windscreen & bodywork "melting" of dashboard What else? Tom Boles SF Bay (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1804289383-957465621=:26644

Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800  for sale in California may have hit paydirt!

Now, I need some help.

The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90  is the one I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires (?).

So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in good shape?

Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used motorcycle things?)

Noise in muffler

rust on muffler

scratches in windscreen & bodywork

"melting" of dashboard

What else?

Tom Boles

SF Bay

(VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe)


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Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1804289383-957465621=:26644-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Registraton" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:40:13 -0400 Tim; Very well written! Most enjoyable perspective. Hope you enjoy the new ST1100! Hope your PC800 doesn't read your e-mail or I'll probably get a threatening virus sent my way! Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. (elton.hammond@ekho.com) President The EKHO Institute (http://www.ekho.com) Autodesk Premier Training Center Tel. (613) 822-6935 Fax (613) 822-7132 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back > I've been a good bike, really I have! I'm quiet and reliable. I've carried > Tim and Nan on some amazing journeys since 1994 when they bought me new. He > wanted me to plow through the snows and high winds of Wyoming, South Dakota > and Missouri in February, no less, just because he wanted to go see what > Daytona was all about. Nan somehow always manages to find a "shortcut" on > the map that includes dirt and gravel. I've uncomplainingly dragged the two > of them up and down the Sierras and the Rockies more times than I can count. > They ask me to do 700 to a thousand miles in a day---no problem. Just keep > feeding me gas and keep the tires full. Change my oil regularly and don't > forget the spark plugs need changing occasionally. That's all I ask. > > So was it my fault that at 95K my rear end went? Yours would to if some > moron mechanic in Orlando forgot to grease you during a tire change. And > could I help it if my stator finally quit after 97,000 miles of industrious > output? Hey, things wear out! And I certainly didn't have anything to do > with the mud on the blind curve that was my downfall at 108K. That hurt! I > have scars. > > I'd heard Tim and Nan talking about getting a bigger bike to "keep me > company" many times in the past. Just figured that was all it was.talk. They > do that. A lot. And I was mildly surprised on the 15th of April when the two > of them got in the car and drove off. They hardly ever take the car > anywhere. At least not together. But it was downright shocking when the > garage door opens later that afternoon and Tim rides in on a brand new > ST1100! And he had this great big grin on his face-that same grin that I > thought was reserved for me when we'd had an especially fine day together > tackling twisties and running in the wind. > > And look at that prissy little bitch just sitting over there posing for > invisible cameras. I used to be that shiny too. But that was 113K and many > roads ago. And now people stop by just to look at her.my, how she eats up > that attention. And Tim talks about how she'll take them all over the > country and oh, yeah, she has this huge gas tank and we're going to buy her > new goodies to make her even better. And me? I'm dismissed as the "commuter > bike"; still reliable but relegated to short trips around the area. Like I'm > old or something. > > And they have the audacity to name her "STealthmobile II"! I won't even go > there.. > > And then last Saturday Tim and Nan decide to bail out on their > responsibilities and head down to northern California for that Grand Tour > checkpoint on the Klamath Highway. But who isn't ready to go the distance? > Yeah, you.you insolent.well, let's just say I don't usually use the words > I'm thinking. So once again they stuff the bags in my trunk, slap the > tankbag on, and head out of town way too late to be doing anything remotely > resembling a leisurely ride. But they do it anyway, running down to Happy > Camp and back up to Grants Pass for the night. Can Prissy Baby give them 500 > miles in nine hours? Not sitting in a garage.! > > But I'm tired. My joints are creaky and I'm cranky. I wanted to rest some > more in the morning but they wanted to get home early. And just south of > Eugene I can feel it-my exhaust manifold is really starting to hurt a lot. I > tried to hold together but the fatigue was just too much. Within ten miles I > go from being the quietest bike on the road to a Harley wannabe. I know I > can get them home, but oh, the headache I gave Tim from the noise! Serves > him right. > > So now I'm broken---and broken-hearted. Instead of going out for the daily > romp into Portland I sit here in the garage waiting for that damned cat to > spray my tires. I know that my new manifold is on the way, but now Tim's > talking about doing some more much-needed maintenance. Finally! How many > times have I told him in the past to at least stop riding long enough to > minister to my complaints? > > But the real heartbreak is that now he has to ride that Bitch to work. All I > can hope for is that it rains every day so she at least gets her skirts wet. > Then maybe she'll stop being so aloof and at least talk to me at night. > > I'm so lonely. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:49:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: ME 880 tires... Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:50:04 -0500 I installed the 150X90X15 on my 95 PC and had to do some pretty heavy modification to the crossmember on the swingarm in order to get the tire to fit. I would not advise that you use the 150X90 unless you are into vice grips and hammers. I would suggest that you try the 140X90X15 or the 150X80X15. The 150X80 may be a little wide for the 89 model although the 150X90 was about the same width as the Dunlop I replaced. Mail order was about $100 and my dealer was about $140. I don't remember which mail order I saw that price. I think it was in a magazine where I saw it. Good luck. Hope this helps. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:24 PM Subject: PC800: ME 880 tires... > List, > > I am going to purchase a set of Metzelers for the PC. I was wondering if > any one knows where to get the cheapest price? I have searched the archives > and found a couple places. While searching the archives I came across a > message stating that you could get the 150/90-15 to fit the on the rear. (I > run K555's right now) The K555's are a 1/2 inch wider across than the > me880's. Has anyone ever done this?? My load capacity would be increased and > that would be a good thing. Also stated that that the 150/90-15 would still > be under the 1/2 inch width. Help! Thanks all.........need tires in the worst > way! > Todd Skar > '89PC 12k > "Poseidon" > G.B. , WI > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:54:00 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: ME 880 tires... To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) I got my 880's from motorcycle accessary warehouse on April 10th for 201.66 including shipping. Someone posted that while the width of the larger tire fit, there was a rubbing problem as far as the height of the rear tire. I'm happy enough with the tires, but was surprised that they didn't even put them in a box to ship them. Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Checking the oil. Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:01:40 -0400 Well, now that I have put on 1500 miles or so I probably should check the oil. Any easy way to do this? I keep forgetting to look in the manual. Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:20:52 -0400 To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: ME 880 tires... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Also stated that that the 150/90-15 would still >be under the 1/2 inch width. Help! Thanks all.........need tires in the worst >way! >Todd Skar But it might be too tall.... Someone on the list mounted a set of these and they had to do a bit of filing/cutting/bending to the swingarm to make it fit. I would recommend that you get the 150/80-15 or the 140/90-15. One of these gives you a bit more width, the other a bit more height, depending on your needs. Good luck. fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay5.smtp.psi.net [38.9.28.2]) with SMTP; 4 May 2000 23:02:50 UT Thu, 4 May 2000 16:14:14 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:10:36 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Although I know the answer to this question (its on the right side of the bike by the brake pedel - behind the removable cover), I would ask - should you have the bike up on the center stand to check the oil, or is it ok to be on the side stand. How much difference does this make? For that matter, when fueling the bike, should you have the bike on the center stand so that the fuel tank is level? Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. Ron Kimball on 05/04/2000 12:01:40 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Checking the oil. Well, now that I have put on 1500 miles or so I probably should check the oil. Any easy way to do this? I keep forgetting to look in the manual. Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:21:34 -0700 Dear Steathmobile, My sympathy goes out to you. I have sent you an encouragement card, hope you get better soon and show that new bitch parked next to you how to get through the twisties. Also, when Tim & Nan are trying to pack those new saddlebags, pop open your trunk just to remind them what they are missing. Yours truly, Will's little red PC Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy >So now I’m broken---and broken-hearted. Instead of going out for the daily >romp into Portland I sit here in the garage waiting for that damned cat to >spray my tires. I know that my new manifold is on the way, but now Tim’s >talking about doing some more much-needed maintenance. Finally! How many -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 16:42:24 -0400 On Thu, 4 May 2000 13:10:36 -0700, Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com wrote: >Although I know the answer to this question (its on the right side of the bike >by the brake pedel - behind the removable cover), I would ask - should you have >the bike up on the center stand to check the oil, or is it ok to be on the side >stand. How much difference does this make? It is generally essential that a bike be level on the centerstand, I assume this applies to the PC as well... >For that matter, when fueling the bike, should you have the bike on the center >stand so that the fuel tank is level? I've done that on previous bikes, then parked and had fuel running out all over the place. :-( Doesn't seem to matter on the PC unless you fill it right to the neck... So, how do you get the oil-checking-access-panel off? Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:08:47 -0700 From: Joel Kopp CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? boundary="------------FE52A64CF695C73AFC0AC49E" --------------FE52A64CF695C73AFC0AC49E Tom: I would check the crash bars for marks or signs of new paint. I paid $4,900 for my '95 in September, and it had less than 7,000 miles on it as I recall. It came with the taller Honda windscreen and the Honda backrest. The guy was originally asking $5,500. If I were you I'd try to push the dealer down closer to $4,000. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster Tom Boles wrote: > Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California may > have hit paydirt! > > Now, I need some help. > > The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New > tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk > lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be > noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & > will not be able to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint > for a '90 is the one I missed out on last week. Asking price was > $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie > and maybe needing tires (?). > > So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in > good shape? > > Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used > motorcycle things?) > > Noise in muffler > > rust on muffler > > scratches in windscreen & bodywork > > "melting" of dashboard > > What else? > > Tom Boles > > SF Bay > > (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --------------FE52A64CF695C73AFC0AC49E Tom: I would check the crash bars for marks or signs of new paint. I paid $4,900 for my '95 in September, and it had less than 7,000 miles on it as I recall. It came with the taller Honda windscreen and the Honda backrest. The guy was originally asking $5,500. If I were you I'd try to push the dealer down closer to $4,000.

Joel Kopp
Seattle
'95 Coaster

Tom Boles wrote:

Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800  for sale in California may have hit paydirt!

Now, I need some help.

The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90  is the one I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires (?).

So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in good shape?

Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used motorcycle things?)

Noise in muffler

rust on muffler

scratches in windscreen & bodywork

"melting" of dashboard

What else?

Tom Boles

SF Bay

(VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe)
 

Do You Yahoo!?
Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.
--------------FE52A64CF695C73AFC0AC49E-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay6.smtp.psi.net [38.9.30.2]) with SMTP; 5 May 2000 00:43:35 UT Thu, 4 May 2000 17:57:54 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:54:19 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Ron Kimball said: > So, how do you get the oil-checking-access-panel off? Pull - it is held on by tabs on one end and a friction latch on the other. The friction latch is on the aft end, back towards your ankle. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay6.smtp.psi.net [38.9.30.2]) with SMTP; 5 May 2000 00:52:12 UT Thu, 4 May 2000 18:06:31 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:02:56 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Boundary="0__=5bGTEasUquO5HKb2cdJaAHnTq8ogqR7QKH9dceVWQ70E61o029eCcEog" --0__=5bGTEasUquO5HKb2cdJaAHnTq8ogqR7QKH9dceVWQ70E61o029eCcEog I would also see if it doesn't have 133,000 miles on it. I saw an '89 in Southern California recently that showed 13k, but from the wear on the bike and the accessories that had been attached, I could only guess that it was actually 113k. The shop wanted $4100 for the bike since it was 'low' miles. Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. Joel Kopp on 05/04/2000 02:08:47 PM Please respond to thekoppfamily@earthlink.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Tom: I would check the crash bars for marks or signs of new paint. I paid $4,900 for my '95 in September, and it had less than 7,000 miles on it as I recall. It came with the taller Honda windscreen and the Honda backrest. The guy was originally asking $5,500. If I were you I'd try to push the dealer down closer to $4,000. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 Coaster Tom Boles wrote: > Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California may > have hit paydirt! > > Now, I need some help. > > The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New > tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk > lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be > noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & > will not be able to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint > for a '90 is the one I missed out on last week. Asking price was > $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie > and maybe needing tires (?). > > So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in > good shape? > > Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used > motorcycle things?) > > Noise in muffler > > rust on muffler > > scratches in windscreen & bodywork > > "melting" of dashboard > > What else? > > Tom Boles > > SF Bay > > (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:28:06 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com wrote: >... I would ask - should you have > the bike up on the center stand to check the oil, or is it ok to be on the > side stand. How much difference does this make? Center stand, no question. On the side stand it will give you a completely wrong reading. > For that matter, when fueling the bike, should you have the bike on the > center stand so that the fuel tank is level? This one is a matter of preference. Here's what I do. If I am going to fill up and park it, I do it on the sidestand. That way when the fuel expands due to engine heat it won't leak all over the place. However, I usually fill up at the start of a ride, so I do it with the bike on the center stand and fill it almost all the way up to the lip of the filler tube. Hope this helps (would that be "HTH"? :) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "pc800 mailinglist" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:05:18 -0500 I have the latest issue of Motorcyclist but don't remember seeing anything. I'll have to actually read the mag tonight (I have already looked at the pictures several times). Thanks for the heads up. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Christoffer Carstanjen" To: "Mark Gilb" ; "pc800 mailinglist" Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot > Mark, > > Drink lots of fluids, IMHO helps with fatigue. > > If you want to go with a group - The magazines' > Motorcyclist and Motorcycle Cruiser (they like metric > cruisers) are having three separate rides from three > separate cities to The Hoot. If I was going, I'd join > in. > > I didn't bring the magazines to work to be able to > give you all details, I will try to post them on > Saturday. If someone has their copy more at hand - > please post them. The latest issue of Cruiser, which I > got last night - has directions and details - two > groups leave at 8 a.m. the other at 9 a.m. > It's just a one day ride - so it'd be the last leg of > your tour. No public webpages - they do have email > addresses. > > > This is my first really long (500 miles+) trip and > > I am really looking > > forward to it. > > > > > > ===== > Christoffer Carstanjen - > 98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) > ------------------------------------------------------- > --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. > Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id SAA24620557 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: "Tom Boles" , Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:16:24 -0500 Tom, I think they are asking to much. I overpaid for a 94' this past month. Here's the scoop. 94' Black PC 800 9,300 miles SHOW ROOM condition All maintenance (what little there was "oil changes") was done by the = dealer Price $5,150 That's $500 over "HIGH RETAIL" Check NADA, KELLY BLUE BOOK, and AMA guides for pricing. Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Boles=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California may = have hit paydirt! Now, I need some help.=20 The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New = tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk = lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably = in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able = to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the one = I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, = otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires = (?).=20 So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is in = good shape? Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal used = motorcycle things?) Noise in muffler rust on muffler scratches in windscreen & bodywork "melting" of dashboard What else? Tom Boles SF Bay (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. with Yahoo! = Messenger. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:19:00 -0500 Stealthy, Isn't that just like a man? Gets his head turned by some pretty young thing that is probably high maintenence, whiny and moody. I've seen it before and it ain't pretty. There has been talk around here of a Gold Wing. Just let him try to get that fat bitch my garage!!! You want to see plastic fly? Them big ones are all the same, get 'em down and start to wailing! Hang in there, honey Faux P.S. Don't tell Mark my name, I don't think that he even knows!!!! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back > I’ve been a good bike, really I have! I’m quiet and reliable. I’ve carried > Tim and Nan on some amazing journeys since 1994 when they bought me new. He > wanted me to plow through the snows and high winds of Wyoming, South Dakota > and Missouri in February, no less, just because he wanted to go see what > Daytona was all about. Nan somehow always manages to find a “shortcut” on > the map that includes dirt and gravel. I’ve uncomplainingly dragged the two > of them up and down the Sierras and the Rockies more times than I can count. > They ask me to do 700 to a thousand miles in a day---no problem. Just keep > feeding me gas and keep the tires full. Change my oil regularly and don’t > forget the spark plugs need changing occasionally. That’s all I ask. > > So was it my fault that at 95K my rear end went? Yours would to if some > moron mechanic in Orlando forgot to grease you during a tire change. And > could I help it if my stator finally quit after 97,000 miles of industrious > output? Hey, things wear out! And I certainly didn’t have anything to do > with the mud on the blind curve that was my downfall at 108K. That hurt! I > have scars… > > I’d heard Tim and Nan talking about getting a bigger bike to “keep me > company” many times in the past. Just figured that was all it was…talk. They > do that. A lot. And I was mildly surprised on the 15th of April when the two > of them got in the car and drove off. They hardly ever take the car > anywhere. At least not together. But it was downright shocking when the > garage door opens later that afternoon and Tim rides in on a brand new > ST1100! And he had this great big grin on his face—that same grin that I > thought was reserved for me when we’d had an especially fine day together > tackling twisties and running in the wind. > > And look at that prissy little bitch just sitting over there posing for > invisible cameras. I used to be that shiny too. But that was 113K and many > roads ago. And now people stop by just to look at her…my, how she eats up > that attention. And Tim talks about how she’ll take them all over the > country and oh, yeah, she has this huge gas tank and we’re going to buy her > new goodies to make her even better. And me? I’m dismissed as the “commuter > bike”; still reliable but relegated to short trips around the area. Like I ’m > old or something. > > And they have the audacity to name her “STealthmobile II”! I won’t even go > there…. > > And then last Saturday Tim and Nan decide to bail out on their > responsibilities and head down to northern California for that Grand Tour > checkpoint on the Klamath Highway. But who isn’t ready to go the distance? > Yeah, you…you insolent…well, let’s just say I don’t usually use the words > I’m thinking. So once again they stuff the bags in my trunk, slap the > tankbag on, and head out of town way too late to be doing anything remotely > resembling a leisurely ride. But they do it anyway, running down to Happy > Camp and back up to Grants Pass for the night. Can Prissy Baby give them 500 > miles in nine hours? Not sitting in a garage…! > > But I’m tired. My joints are creaky and I’m cranky. I wanted to rest some > more in the morning but they wanted to get home early. And just south of > Eugene I can feel it—my exhaust manifold is really starting to hurt a lot. I > tried to hold together but the fatigue was just too much. Within ten miles I > go from being the quietest bike on the road to a Harley wannabe. I know I > can get them home, but oh, the headache I gave Tim from the noise! Serves > him right… > > So now I’m broken---and broken-hearted. Instead of going out for the daily > romp into Portland I sit here in the garage waiting for that damned cat to > spray my tires. I know that my new manifold is on the way, but now Tim’s > talking about doing some more much-needed maintenance. Finally! How many > times have I told him in the past to at least stop riding long enough to > minister to my complaints? > > But the real heartbreak is that now he has to ride that Bitch to work. All I > can hope for is that it rains every day so she at least gets her skirts wet. > Then maybe she’ll stop being so aloof and at least talk to me at night. > > I’m so lonely… > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:23:13 -0500 The reason for the premium is that it was a .... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR = THREAD AGAIN ...... black motorcycle ;-) Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 (Black, of course) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Larry Johnson=20 To: Tom Boles ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Tom, I think they are asking to much. I overpaid for a 94' this past month. Here's the scoop. 94' Black PC 800 9,300 miles SHOW ROOM condition All maintenance (what little there was "oil changes") was done by the = dealer Price $5,150 That's $500 over "HIGH RETAIL" Check NADA, KELLY BLUE BOOK, and AMA guides for pricing. Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Boles=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California may = have hit paydirt! Now, I need some help.=20 The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New = tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk = lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably = in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able = to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the one = I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, = otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires = (?).=20 So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike is = in good shape? Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal = used motorcycle things?) Noise in muffler rust on muffler scratches in windscreen & bodywork "melting" of dashboard What else? Tom Boles SF Bay (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. alerts with=20 Yahoo!=20 Messenger. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:29:03 -0500 Damn it!!!! I knew I should have bought the Mary Kay Pink one next to = it! :-) Well, I can't disagree with you Mark. Black was the only color my SO = would ride. Of course, it's my money so she really didn't mind the = price too much. Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Gilb=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:23 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? The reason for the premium is that it was a .... OH NO, NOT THE COLOR = THREAD AGAIN ...... black motorcycle ;-) Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 (Black, of course) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Larry Johnson=20 To: Tom Boles ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Tom, I think they are asking to much. I overpaid for a 94' this past month. Here's the scoop. 94' Black PC 800 9,300 miles SHOW ROOM condition All maintenance (what little there was "oil changes") was done by = the dealer Price $5,150 That's $500 over "HIGH RETAIL" Check NADA, KELLY BLUE BOOK, and AMA guides for pricing. Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Boles=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California = may have hit paydirt! Now, I need some help.=20 The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New = tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk = lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably = in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able = to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the one = I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, = otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires = (?).=20 So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike = is in good shape? Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than normal = used motorcycle things?) Noise in muffler rust on muffler scratches in windscreen & bodywork "melting" of dashboard What else? Tom Boles SF Bay (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. alerts with=20 Yahoo!=20 Messenger. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "Larry Johnson" , "Tom Boles" , Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:15:09 -0700 I am selling a 94 with many many extras,,and asking $4900 with 26000 = miles Doug -----Original Message----- From: Larry Johnson To: Tom Boles ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu = Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? =20 =20 Tom, =20 I think they are asking to much. =20 I overpaid for a 94' this past month. Here's the scoop. =20 94' Black PC 800 9,300 miles SHOW ROOM condition All maintenance (what little there was "oil changes") was done by = the dealer =20 Price $5,150 =20 That's $500 over "HIGH RETAIL" =20 Check NADA, KELLY BLUE BOOK, and AMA guides for pricing. =20 Good Riding, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Boles=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? =20 =20 Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale in California = may have hit paydirt! Now, I need some help.=20 The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. It has: New = tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk = lights and the spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be noticeably = in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT seen the bike & will not be able = to see it untill next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the one = I missed out on last week. Asking price was $3800 with 16K miles, = otherwise box stock with a 3 month old batterie and maybe needing tires = (?).=20 So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true and the bike = is in good shape? Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? (other than = normal used motorcycle things?) Noise in muffler rust on muffler scratches in windscreen & bodywork "melting" of dashboard What else? Tom Boles SF Bay (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ = =20 Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. alerts=20 with Yahoo!=20 Messenger. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? of "Thu, 04 May 2000 05:59:40 PDT." <20000504125940.17617.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 19:36:32 -0500 From: David Kelly Christoffer Carstanjen writes: > [...] > Looking at the ducktail of the PC800, I am thinking > out loud "....what a great place to store a tool > kit!...." > > Then you open the back and look up under the lid and > then say"....just what is up in there?.." > > So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? > Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? > Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment > for Metamucil? Second battery? Blow-up Doll? That's where the ILOVEYOU virus was hidden away. You shouldn't have opened that private compartment on your PC. Of course Macs and Unix are not vulnerable.... :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Comments on pre-sale Evaluation of a '90 PC900? To: Tom Boles , pc800 mailinglist Tom, now I am just a newbie with a 98PC800- so if someone contradicts me, go by their advice, not mine... according to kbb.com - Kelley Blue Book - Retail is $ $4325 trade-in is $2970 That's a huge mark up in my book. Average touring miles is 43100, so you're under that. I'd want a full folder of service receipts, oil changes,etc. (that reminds me, I need to start one of those folders...) I paid $5,900 private sale with 2k miles- but I think that was very reasonable. I was searching for 4 months and it's a bit newer than I wanted, but worth it. I'd shoot for the midpoint between wholesale and retail. Search the repair database to get a sense of what is going and when - look at your year and the years before and after. Additional Equipment, well, the Corbin seat is with worth something, but I wouldn't let the dealer make real profit off of it. The seat might have "contoured" to the previous owner - which isn't you - so it may be uncomfortable. If you listen to us, we think the bike will appreciate in value in the future. Only BMW and Kawasaki make semi-comparable models and pricey ones at that. But, don't fall in love with the bike, then the dealer has got you....don't tell him you're traveling a far distance just to see this bike. Good luck....and do tell us the outcome! --- Tom Boles wrote: > > Well, my search for a '90 or newer PC800 for sale > in California may have hit paydirt! > > Now, I need some help. > > The dealer is asking $4500 for a '90 with 33K miles. > It has: New tires, a taller Rifle windscreen, a > Corbin seat & backrest, the trunk lights and the > spoiler wing thing. The bodywork is said to be > noticeably in great, very shiney shape. I have NOT > seen the bike & will not be able to see it untill > next wednesday. My only datapoint for a '90 is the > one I missed out on last week. Asking price was > $3800 with 16K miles, otherwise box stock with a 3 > month old batterie and maybe needing tires (?). > > So, maybe $4500 is not bad is all the above is true > and the bike is in good shape? > > Anything special to look at/ pay attention to? > (other than normal used motorcycle things?) > > Noise in muffler > > rust on muffler > > scratches in windscreen & bodywork > > "melting" of dashboard > > What else? > > Tom Boles > > SF Bay > > (VERY hopeful PC800 wannabe) > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Thu, 4 May 2000 17:56:25 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "PC 800 List" , "David Kelly" Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:56:14 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David Kelly" To: "PC 800 List" Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? > Christoffer Carstanjen writes: > > > [...] > > Looking at the ducktail of the PC800, I am thinking > > out loud "....what a great place to store a tool > > kit!...." > > > > Then you open the back and look up under the lid and > > then say"....just what is up in there?.." > > > That's where the ILOVEYOU virus was hidden away. You shouldn't have > opened that private compartment on your PC. Of course Macs and Unix are > not vulnerable.... :-) > C'mon, you know Auto-lean 4.3.3 has built in anti-virus capability... --Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: nonPC - re:What is in there? To: Ralph Couey , PC 800 List , David Kelly > > > > > That's where the ILOVEYOU virus was hidden away. > You shouldn't have > > opened that private compartment on your PC. Of > course Macs and Unix are > > not vulnerable.... :-) > > Damn - I didn't open it - musta been someone else.... ...it hit our twin campus of 1,600 users, not too hard so far. I don't know the full outcome since we don't use a Microsoft Mail product for e-mail handling. Until a user decides to update his/her .DAT file, it'll sit dormant (for the email part). However, we could stand to loose all the MP3's on campus. I know some are legit, but many aren't. You think Metallica suing MP3.com had something to do with this? ;-) ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed,now leaning Red October and Nebuchadnezzar(sp?) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Jim Alexander" , "Christoffer Carstanjen" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: What is in there? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:50:33 -0700 Could a little flap door be cut out with a Dremel tool, hinges attached with pop rivets and a latch made from hoop and look? If I could do that, I'd keep my secret paper in it. The one that says, Port=Left, Starboard=Right. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo non Porthole" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 4 May 2000 23:05:40 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: Prices Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 22:17:38 -0500 Tom, Here are a couple of sources for pricing. http://www.motorcycleworld.com/motorcycles/default.cfm?tab=2 http://www.mcnews.com/articles/ubvg99e.html Hope this helps, Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) 90 PC (Red Hot) 95 Goldwing For sale P.S. There was a 90 here in Indiana for about $3500. with 5k miles. I'm not sure but I can't imagine that prices are that much higher in Cal. You asked what to look for 90's are notorious for faded paint. Other than that remember that you are looking at a 10 year old bike........ be careful, but my opinion is that they (PC's) are the finest rides on the road. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:17:06 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:09:21 -0400 > Well, now that I have put on 1500 miles or so I probably should check the oil. > Any easy way to do this? I keep forgetting to look in the manual. > > Happy Trails, > Ron Yep, Just pop off the cover thats within the lower right side cover and the dipstk cap is in there. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:26:05 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Checking the oil. Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:18:20 -0400 > Although I know the answer to this question (its on the right side of the bike > by the brake pedel - behind the removable cover), I would ask - should you have > the bike up on the center stand to check the oil, or is it ok to be on the side > stand. How much difference does this make? Yes, I would thing the motor should be level > For that matter, when fueling the bike, should you have the bike on the center > stand so that the fuel tank is level? > Steven Steinsapir doesn't have to be. The filler neck is the high point. Unless you think the bike will fall over. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:39:27 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-Language: en In a message dated 5/4/00 11:31:25 AM Mountain Standard Time,=20 timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: << But the real heartbreak is that now he has to ride that Bitch to work. Al= l=20 I=20 can hope for is that it rains every day so she at least gets her skirts wet= .=20 Then maybe she=E2=80=99ll stop being so aloof and at least talk to me at ni= ght. >> My poor Steathmobile! In your sad letter it is all too obvious that your heart is breaking. It is=20 an often thing that us motorcycles get used but a few years only to be cast=20 aside like a "I Trust Bill Clinton" button. The motorcycle salvage yard is a= =20 plethora of unwanted machines. Honda Dreams with peal and stick flower power= =20 decals. Hodaka Ace 100s with knobbies long ago worn bare. Yamaha Big Bears=20 laid to rest decades before they stared using the moniker on their 4=20 wheelers. A look here and there will discover any and every type of engine=20 powered two wheeled machine made in the last 50 years or so. Every that is,=20 except the Honda Pacific Coast. You see, the PC is Gold Cup of motorcycles.=20 It is not the Dixie Cup. We are made to run and run and run. We are not ofte= n=20 abused, but if we are we shrug it off and pay it no mind. If you are getting= =20 creaks where you creaked not before, if you are wobbling where you were once= =20 straight and smooth, if you are starting to sag in areas where you were once= =20 as firm as the dollar used to be, then be not sad, but proud. You have gone=20 where few machines have gone before. And even less have gone with as few=20 troubles. If your owner loves you, and I assure you that he does, then the=20 stablemate that you have now is nothing more than that- a stablemate. And=20 yes, you are quite accurate in calling her a "bitch", for that is what she=20 is. But go easy on your owner, for his head is easily turned. It will be but= =20 a matter of time before he realizes that what made him begin to like=20 motorcycles was something that happened before you came along. What made him= =20 start to love motorcycles was to own you. The new girl parked next to you=20 (not too close I hope) is a sexy thing allright. True, she does have a bit o= f=20 a muted snarl in her pipe, but yours is soft and subdued like a cat's purr.=20 And she loves to leap up to 100 miles per hour and beyond while you prefer t= o=20 cruise along at a pace more suited to two lovers on a picnic. You dont rush=20= a=20 good thing and you dont rush love. You can substitute an adrenaline rush for= =20 love, but love is far less likely to get you road rash. Dont fret too much=20 about your owner. He is simply infatuated with the new girl- that's all. Whe= n=20 the new wears off, and it will wear off, he will again turn his attention=20 where it is deserved most. To you. The glorious lady that started it all.=20 Bless you. Blacksatin Owned (and loved) by Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: ME 880 tires... ASKARDLIFE@aol.com writes: > I am going to purchase a set of Metzelers for the PC. I was wondering > if any one knows where to get the cheapest price? I have searched the > archives and found a couple places. While searching the archives I > came across a message stating that you could get the 150/90-15 to fit > the on the rear. (I run K555's right now) The K555's are a 1/2 inch > wider across than the me880's. The ME880 150/80-15 should be the closest to the K555 in dimensions, and should, as you observe, offer slightly increased load capacity. As Steve observes, the 150/90 is really too big. Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse has the cheapest prices, and delivered from stock in less than 5 days when I ordered from them. Note that they do not *list* the 150 size on their web site: $97.95 Metzeler ME880 140/80HB15 Rear Tire It wouldn't hurt to give them a call and ask if they also stock the 150, or if not, how long it would take to get one. If I remember correctly, shipping/handling was $12. Compare this with the $164 (plus 6% sales tax) I was quoted for the same tire locally. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: nonPC - honda hoot ride details To: pc800 mailinglist Details that were promised: Motorcycle Cruiser June 2000 "As mentioned in our previous issue, Motorcycle Cruiser's editors will be riding to the Honda Hoot from three points in the southeast and readers are invited to join us (tell 'em Chris sent you - that'll really confuse them) All three rides will be conducted on Weds, June 21. Arrive all fueled up and ready to go. They plan on fuel stops at intervals no greater than 100 miles, and lunch stop. All rides will terminate in downtown Ashville." Atlanta, GA area lve 8a.m.- contact Jamie Elvidge elvidgej@emapusa.com Richmond VA area lve 8 a.m. - contact Evans Brasfield brasfiee@emapusa.com Knoxville TN area - lve 9 a.m. - contact Art Friedman, friedmaa@emapusa.com Sorry I can't make it - maybe next year have fun and ride safe ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed,now leaning Red October and Nebuchadnezzar(sp?) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 05:39:11 -0700 Just a feeble attempt, Stealthmobile, to reduce this beautiful apologia to a motto which you could maybe have, say, put in a decal and placed subtly on the lid of the hatchback, or more brazenly right on top of your shelter: "KISSIN' DON'T LAST--COOKIN' DO!" Secondo. > In your sad letter it is all too obvious that your heart is breaking. It is > an often thing that us motorcycles get used but a few years only to be cast > aside like a "I Trust Bill Clinton" button. The motorcycle salvage yard is a > plethora of unwanted machines. Honda Dreams with peal and stick flower power > decals. Hodaka Ace 100s with knobbies long ago worn bare. Yamaha Big Bears > laid to rest decades before they stared using the moniker on their 4 > wheelers. A look here and there will discover any and every type of engine > powered two wheeled machine made in the last 50 years or so. Every that is, > except the Honda Pacific Coast. You see, the PC is Gold Cup of motorcycles. > It is not the Dixie Cup. We are made to run and run and run. We are not often > abused, but if we are we shrug it off and pay it no mind. If you are getting > creaks where you creaked not before, if you are wobbling where you were once > straight and smooth, if you are starting to sag in areas where you were once > as firm as the dollar used to be, then be not sad, but proud. You have gone > where few machines have gone before. And even less have gone with as few > troubles. If your owner loves you, and I assure you that he does, then the > stablemate that you have now is nothing more than that- a stablemate. And > yes, you are quite accurate in calling her a "bitch", for that is what she > is. But go easy on your owner, for his head is easily turned. It will be but > a matter of time before he realizes that what made him begin to like > motorcycles was something that happened before you came along. What made him > start to love motorcycles was to own you. The new girl parked next to you > (not too close I hope) is a sexy thing allright. True, she does have a bit of > a muted snarl in her pipe, but yours is soft and subdued like a cat's purr. > And she loves to leap up to 100 miles per hour and beyond while you prefer to > cruise along at a pace more suited to two lovers on a picnic. You dont rush a > good thing and you dont rush love. You can substitute an adrenaline rush for > love, but love is far less likely to get you road rash. Dont fret too much > about your owner. He is simply infatuated with the new girl- that's all. When > the new wears off, and it will wear off, he will again turn his attention > where it is deserved most. To you. The glorious lady that started it all. > Bless you. > > Blacksatin > > Owned (and loved) by Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:09:36 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard I wonder if any of you have experienced this. Last night, I installed a new Clearview +5 on my as yet unnamed PC800. I noticed as I rolled it out of the garage for a test ride that the brake lever hits the shield at full lock. Took it for a test spin; much better. the turbulence hits the top of my helmet, as it should. Very good ride. Gee. This thing really does have a motor after all. I just couldn't hear it before from the wind. This morning, I rode to work. As I was rolling into my parking spot, I made my usual dive for the end of the spot next to it, then swing around to park pointing out. As I made the swoop, the brake lever (with my finger between it and the shield) hit the shield and locked the front brake. WHOOPSIE!!!! Just BARELY caught it. This seems to me to be an obvious and really dangerous safety flaw. Am I the only one? Is there some adjustment I didn't notice? Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:20:46 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard Hi Revill- I have a Clearview +5 on my 90 PC and have never experienced this problem. Does your PC possibly have the "handlebar riser" modification that can be done on the PC? That might change things enough to cause this type of problem. Is there any adjustment on the brake level itself, so that the lever itself can be "pulled in" towards the grip a bit? Anyone? Rich Fenwick Network Analyst (with 6 hours sleep, and hoping for a calm day...) NovaNET Learning 1990 PC800 ************** At 08:09 AM 05/05/2000 -0500, Revill Dunn wrote: >I wonder if any of you have experienced this. Last night, I installed a new >Clearview +5 on my as yet unnamed PC800. I noticed as I rolled it out of the >garage for a test ride that the brake lever hits the shield at full lock. > >Took it for a test spin; much better. the turbulence hits the top of my >helmet, as it should. Very good ride. Gee. This thing really does have a >motor after all. I just couldn't hear it before from the wind. > >This morning, I rode to work. As I was rolling into my parking spot, I made my >usual dive for the end of the spot next to it, then swing around to park >pointing out. As I made the swoop, the brake lever (with my finger between it >and the shield) hit the shield and locked the front brake. > >WHOOPSIE!!!! Just BARELY caught it. > >This seems to me to be an obvious and really dangerous safety flaw. Am I the >only one? Is there some adjustment I didn't notice? > >Revill Dunn >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:46:13 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard To: revill.dunn@amd.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) There is some adjustment on the Clearview for how much it is angled back. the last "hole" on the shield is a slot for this reason. I had to give mine less of a backward angle to keep the levers from hitting the plastic. It didn't take much, but it does require you to take off the trim pieces again and loosen the windshield screws. You don't have to remove the screws though. You might also be able to tilt your handlebars back a bit by loosening the clamp bolts under the removable cover around the ignition key hole. I know Rich Fenwick mentioned the handlebar risers (a possible add on from a previous owner) in his response, but if you don't have them then a small adjustment to the standard configuration may be all you need. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" revill.dunn@amd.com writes: >I wonder if any of you have experienced this. Last night, I installed a new >Clearview +5 on my as yet unnamed PC800. I noticed as I rolled it out of the >garage for a test ride that the brake lever hits the shield at full lock. > >Took it for a test spin; much better. the turbulence hits the top of my >helmet, as it should. Very good ride. Gee. This thing really does have a >motor after all. I just couldn't hear it before from the wind. > >This morning, I rode to work. As I was rolling into my parking spot, I made my >usual dive for the end of the spot next to it, then swing around to park >pointing out. As I made the swoop, the brake lever (with my finger between it >and the shield) hit the shield and locked the front brake. > >WHOOPSIE!!!! Just BARELY caught it. > >This seems to me to be an obvious and really dangerous safety flaw. Am I the >only one? Is there some adjustment I didn't notice? > >Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:46:50 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clearview +5 Safety Hazard (?) After reading the message Revill posted I went out to see how my Clearview +5 did. I have a 3/4 inch gap between the screen and the brake lever when it was fully extended and the forks turned as far as they will go. That is enough room for my fingers to fit in between easily even with gloves on. I have some play in the brake lever before the brakes come on at the front wheel. I can only guess what could cause the big difference. Possibly you put the screen on at a different angle from what it should be, although I do not know how that could have been done. Could the stopping point for the forks turning been moved somehow? I put my screen on almost a year ago. Could the shape of the screen changed since then? Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:12:35 -0400 To: "Revill Dunn" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:09 AM -0500 5/5/00, Revill Dunn wrote: > >WHOOPSIE!!!! Just BARELY caught it. > >This seems to me to be an obvious and really dangerous safety flaw. Am I the >only one? Is there some adjustment I didn't notice? There are three very small adjustments that can be made, and if they are both at the wrong extreme, then the brake lever could hit. One adj. is the shield. It can be lifted slightly, or lowered slightly, around the two outermost holes that are slots instead of holes. The second adj. is the handlebars. I have loosened the clamps on mine and pulled them back a bit, about a half inch. I prefer this position since I do not have to reach so much for the bars when driving, and as a result they are farther from the shield. The third adj. is the position of the brake lever on the bars. It can be loosened and rotated aver so slightly. There is not much room for adj. since the bar covers still have to fit over top, but there is a little play possible. Good luck. fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 5 May 2000 15:16:07 UT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael Combrink" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:15:11 -0500 Subject: PC800: Bike shops in the OKC area (Off Topic) Hello all, I've been lurking for awhile now, not yet an owner of a PC800, but hopefully will be later this summer. I've picked up a lot of good information from this list. Lots of very helpful and knowledgable people here. This Sat. I will be in the Oklahoma City Area, and will be looking for a learner bike for my son, who is almost 14. I am looking for a street legal bike of 125cc or less, preferably an enduro style as we live on a dirt road. Are there any good shops to check out while I'm in the area? Has anyone heard if the bill to raise the legal cc limit for 14 year-olds has been voted on yet? Thanks for the help. Michael Combrink '98 Shadow Spirit '?? PC800 Still looking -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:57:27 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clearview +5 safety hazard This is about the clearview windshield interfering with the break lever. Just got a call from Craig with Clearview. They've made an "enhancement" on the recent lots of windshields for the PC800. Apparently, the increased coverage gets things a little too close to the levers. He DOES NOT RECOMMEND trying to adjust the windshield to clear the levers. He's recalling my windscreen, and sending me a new one without the enhancement. I guess if you've not noticed this problem, you've not got an enhanced screen. Anyone with a brand new one might want to flop over to full lock and make sure you won't get surprised. Revill Dunn -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:10:13 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: I'd like to hear from Craig... Wonder if someone could "sweet talk" Craig into sending the list an email about this. Maybe he could shed some light into what he was trying to "enhance" for us... (i.e. better rain coverage, less wind buffeting, etc...) I'd be interested in hearing what he was changing, and what the "improvement" would have been... If he's improving it, it'd love to know about it... We could sure give him enough feedback... Maybe we could help him now that it appears that he is going back to the drawing board. Who on the list is "buddy-buddy" with Craig? ;-) Francois? Tim? Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois At 10:57 AM 05/05/2000 -0500, Revill Dunn wrote: >This is about the clearview windshield interfering with the break lever. > >Just got a call from Craig with Clearview. They've made an "enhancement" on >the recent lots of windshields for the PC800. Apparently, the increased >coverage gets things a little too close to the levers. He DOES NOT RECOMMEND >trying to adjust the windshield to clear the levers. He's recalling my >windscreen, and sending me a new one without the enhancement. > >I guess if you've not noticed this problem, you've not got an enhanced screen. >Anyone with a brand new one might want to flop over to full lock and make sure >you won't get surprised. > >Revill Dunn >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mailhost.cle.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:13:58 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:16:50 -0400 From: Mark Skrocki To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: charging system woes (long) Hi There, I was hoping to lean on the collective brain trust of the group. I own an ‘89 with 19,633 on the odometer (just went and checked). Tuesday for the first time since I purchased the bike in October of ‘98 it didn't start, all I got was this clicking sound from under the seat (found out that's where the starter relay resides). Now I had the bike out about a week before this happened for a ride through the local park system, maybe 2.5 hours or so and about 55 miles. I drive this area allot and it has never presented any problems before. So I try to think if I did anything different than usual, the only thing I remembered different was that I burned the bright (headlight) because it was kind of a foggy kind of morning, wife has an identical bike with just about 4k more on it and she burns the bright all the time during the day and has never had a problem. Now I've heard about the problems with the early PC's charging system, so I'll expect the worse but any help any other member can offer would be greatly appreciated. I removed the battery and charged it until the little LED on the Craftsman charger says it's full (the better part of a day). Check it with my multi-meter it shows about 13.5 volts. I checked the battery and found it stamped on the bottom as being made in ‘94/’95. I grab the shop manual and turn to section 15. I reinstall the battery, and proceed with the “Leak Test”. Reconnect the positive terminal, and connect the meter between the negative battery terminal (positive probe) and the battery ground (negative probe). Well I show no reading on my meter even on the most sensitive setting. I figure this is good and that no short is present (or my multi-meter isn't sensitive enough to find the short). Step 2 “Regulated Voltage/Ampere Inspection”. My battery exceeds the minimum 12.8 volts required between terminals. So I'm directed to start the bike, let it warm up to operating temperature, then turn the ignition switch off. Then to connect the meter between the battery terminals. But the manual fails to state just what it is that I'm looking for. After letting the bike idle for about 15 minutes until the temp gauge showed to the little mark I turned the bike off as directed and found a slight voltage drop from the previous 13.5 to around 12.8 volts. I'll assume that is not good. The second part of this test involves connecting the meter between the positive lead (positive probe) in the starter/relay harness and the positive battery terminal (negative probe). Now with the bike running you should see between 13.5-15.5 volts showing on the meter @ 5000 rpm as stated in the manual. Now the manuals specific directions have you remove the main fuse from the starter relay, reconnect the connector securely, connect the ammeter (as previously described above), then start the bike and gradually increase the engine speed. Now maybe it's me but without the main fuse the bike won't start. So I replace the fuse and conduct the test. I see no more than 12.6 volts, no real deviation even at about 5000 rpm. Has anyone else on the list tried to perform this test, did I connect something wrong without the fuse in place and is that why the bike wouldn't start? Or does the manual have a SNAFU in it, oh well on to the next step in the troubleshooting chart. Regulator/Rectifier Wiring harness inspection. OK the first question I have here is although my PC is an ‘89, according the the wiring diagram, the regulator circuit shown that matches my bike is marked for after ‘89. My wife's bike is also an ‘89 and it matches mine in this area as well, it has only one 6P (white) connector, on additional 4P (white) connector, as shown in the manual. I remove said connector from the regulator and run the wiring harness test, and all checks out normal there. On to the rectifier unit. It checks out ok between the positive terminal (red/white, positive probe) and the three charging coil lines (yellow, negative probe) all hitting approximately in the middle of the allowable range of 0.5-10 in 100 ohm units. The other readings I took between the coil line terminals (yellow) were showing infinite resistance, not the 30-500 k oms. All other reading were within the specified numbers. The alternator test checks out fine as to the resistance, but I don't have a continuity check feature on my meter, so I'll see if I can find one this weekend, to finish this test. So, today as a precaution, I took the battery to the local Honda store and they load test the battery (for free), no problems, the battery is fine. I also took the regulator/rectifier there to be tested as well (never hurts to have a second opinion, half hour max labor). So I'll see what they say, but from what I can tell, the regulator/rectifier seem to be the problem. Is there any other testing I can do to further support this conclusion, have I missed something else altogether? Any and all help will be appreciated. Enjoy the ride... Mark Mark & Sandra Skrocki Hinckley, OH 1989 PC800 "Jersey Girl" (his) 1989 PC800 "Jackson" (The Driveway Dancer (hers) skrocki@ameritech.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "pc800 mailinglist" Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:47:50 -0400 Riders wanted. I am looking for a riding partner and roommate to travel from near Knoxville TN to the Honda Hoot in Ashville. If some need a resting point travelling eastward, I have plenty of space. Kenneth Winter 1-800-264-6757 Tazewell, TN convergence point of VA, KY and TN. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:13:50 -0300 To: Mark Skrocki , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: charging system woes (long) Mark: Your regulator/rectifier (and quite possibly your stator) have probably gone south. Visit http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and check out the short essay on this subject. Also, you can search the database there by selecting the year: 89 and the Electrical subsystem. You'll notice that the two seem to fail in pairs. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 5 May 2000 12:04:43 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Lunch ,June 24 at Pisgah Inn on the BRP Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 21:04:07 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Selden Deemer" To: "Arvid Løvik" I (probably along with my wife) would be able to ride up from Atlanta on Saturday, June 24, to meet for lunch at the Pisgah Inn. If you look at the digitized map at: http://www.library.emory.edu/SSD/cruso.html the Pisgah Inn is about 5 km north of the intersection of the BRP with Wagon Rd. Gap. Be warned that weather on the BRP often includes riding in the clouds -- but still probably warmer than Norway. Selden Deemer ====================================================================== Hi Selden, I send a copy of the reply to the List. It will be very nice to meet up with You . I'll hope that some more on the list will have to chance to also meet up. What time of day do you americans have lunch then ?? ;-) Regards Arvid PCOG # 2 GWRRA # 147178 http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:45:23 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Clearview Shields Cc: Clearviewshields@cs.com At 11:10 AM -0500 5/5/00, R. Fenwick wrote: >Wonder if someone could "sweet talk" Craig into sending the list an email >about this. Maybe he could shed some light into what he was trying to >"enhance" for us... (i.e. better rain coverage, less wind buffeting, etc...) >I'd be interested in hearing what he was changing, and what the >"improvement" would have been... If he's improving it, it'd love to know >about it... We could sure give him enough feedback... Maybe we could help >him now that it appears that he is going back to the drawing board. > >Who on the list is "buddy-buddy" with Craig? ;-) Francois? Tim? Hello everyone. I just spoke with Craig Stenger at Clearview, and have a few things to report. First of all, they have a new e-mail address. The current address is being phased out, and the new address to use is "Clearviewshields@cs.com" . The changes to the Clearview shield are best described as "enhancements" as opposed to a "redesign". Those of you who have had the pleasure of dealing with Craig know that he is very conscientious when it comes to quality control, customer service, customer satisfaction, etc. They had received a couple of comments and feedback regarding an issue where the screen fit slightly better on one side or the other, and it is their policy to "revisit" the design mold after two such comments, to see what they can do to improve the product. He had also received some feedback about the 'whistle' sound that some listers reported. If any other listers have a screen that touches the brake lever, and the handlebars can't be adjusted enough to avoid contact, then I would urge you to contact Craig. The 'enhanced' screen has some changes that do not show, such as smaller screw holes, and an increased accuracy for the symmetry of the screen from one side to the other, in order to eliminate the issue where the brake or clutch lever contacts the screen at full lock. Since they were making changes, they added a few minor enhancements. The shield is now about an inch wider at the top, for all lengths. Craig has also enhanced the appearance a bit, giving the screen a bit more "style". The bigger news is that the screen is now available in a lighter grey tint. The previous tinted screen would allow about 65% light transmission. The new lighter grey allows a good 20% more light to pass through. This should make it ideal for people who look through the shield instead of over, yet still want a tinted screen. It is not so dark that it blocks out the light, but rather it is just dark enough to 'soften' the image as you look through. I'm not sure if this makes sense or not. We couldn't think of an easy way to describe it. About a year and a half ago Craig and I had spoken about adding a couple of 'cat eye' cutouts to the screen, like an ST1100. He has been giving this a bit more thought lately, and he may be willing to make one up as a prototype if someone was interested. The idea is that it might alleviate the 'whistle' sound. Of course, depending on the placement, it could heighten the sound as well. As of now I am still planning on being at Americade, and I will be helping out at the Sport Touring Accessories booth again this year. If any listers are thinking about attending, and hoping to pick up a Clearview shield, I would recommend that you plan ahead and call Rob or Leslie at STA and have them bring the size and color you want. Last year they ran out of shields, and a few people ended up getting one taller or shorter than they had hoped for. Heck, someone even offered to buy mine! Well, that's the update for the Clearview shield enhancements. I can't wait to see the new lighter tint! I think I may have a new shield in my future! Anyone want to buy a one year old +3 with Saeng edging?! Come see me at Americade.... Take care everyone, and ride safe. fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Francois Saint Laurent cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:18:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Shields Francois, Thanks for the informative update - lots of good info there. I also am impressed with Clearview's attempt to deliver quality. But I have to ask - what is the bottom line if we are currently waiting for a shield - should we be concerned about the clearance of the new design? When I spoke to Craig about my +6 that is being built, he said it would be the new enhanced model, so it might have handlebar clearance problems? Joel Barlow Belle Mead, NJ '98 Pacific Coast- "Serendipity" AMA: #319133 HRCA: #465660 Francois Saint Laurent on 05/05/2000 03:45:23 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: Clearviewshields@cs.com (bcc: Joel F. Barlow/Telcordia) Subject: PC800: Clearview Shields At 11:10 AM -0500 5/5/00, R. Fenwick wrote: >Wonder if someone could "sweet talk" Craig into sending the list an email >about this. Maybe he could shed some light into what he was trying to >"enhance" for us... (i.e. better rain coverage, less wind buffeting, etc...) >I'd be interested in hearing what he was changing, and what the >"improvement" would have been... If he's improving it, it'd love to know >about it... We could sure give him enough feedback... Maybe we could help >him now that it appears that he is going back to the drawing board. > >Who on the list is "buddy-buddy" with Craig? ;-) Francois? Tim? Hello everyone. I just spoke with Craig Stenger at Clearview, and have a few things to report. First of all, they have a new e-mail address. The current address is being phased out, and the new address to use is "Clearviewshields@cs.com" . The changes to the Clearview shield are best described as "enhancements" as opposed to a "redesign". Those of you who have had the pleasure of dealing with Craig know that he is very conscientious when it comes to quality control, customer service, customer satisfaction, etc. They had received a couple of comments and feedback regarding an issue where the screen fit slightly better on one side or the other, and it is their policy to "revisit" the design mold after two such comments, to see what they can do to improve the product. He had also received some feedback about the 'whistle' sound that some listers reported. If any other listers have a screen that touches the brake lever, and the handlebars can't be adjusted enough to avoid contact, then I would urge you to contact Craig. The 'enhanced' screen has some changes that do not show, such as smaller screw holes, and an increased accuracy for the symmetry of the screen from one side to the other, in order to eliminate the issue where the brake or clutch lever contacts the screen at full lock. Since they were making changes, they added a few minor enhancements. The shield is now about an inch wider at the top, for all lengths. Craig has also enhanced the appearance a bit, giving the screen a bit more "style". The bigger news is that the screen is now available in a lighter grey tint. The previous tinted screen would allow about 65% light transmission. The new lighter grey allows a good 20% more light to pass through. This should make it ideal for people who look through the shield instead of over, yet still want a tinted screen. It is not so dark that it blocks out the light, but rather it is just dark enough to 'soften' the image as you look through. I'm not sure if this makes sense or not. We couldn't think of an easy way to describe it. About a year and a half ago Craig and I had spoken about adding a couple of 'cat eye' cutouts to the screen, like an ST1100. He has been giving this a bit more thought lately, and he may be willing to make one up as a prototype if someone was interested. The idea is that it might alleviate the 'whistle' sound. Of course, depending on the placement, it could heighten the sound as well. As of now I am still planning on being at Americade, and I will be helping out at the Sport Touring Accessories booth again this year. If any listers are thinking about attending, and hoping to pick up a Clearview shield, I would recommend that you plan ahead and call Rob or Leslie at STA and have them bring the size and color you want. Last year they ran out of shields, and a few people ended up getting one taller or shorter than they had hoped for. Heck, someone even offered to buy mine! Well, that's the update for the Clearview shield enhancements. I can't wait to see the new lighter tint! I think I may have a new shield in my future! Anyone want to buy a one year old +3 with Saeng edging?! Come see me at Americade.... Take care everyone, and ride safe. fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:42:58 -0400 To: "Joel F. Barlow" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Shields Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 4:18 PM -0400 5/5/00, Joel F. Barlow wrote: >Francois, >Thanks for the informative update - lots of good info there. >I also am impressed with Clearview's attempt to deliver quality. > >But I have to ask - what is the bottom line if we are currently waiting for >a shield - should we be concerned about the clearance of the new design? >When I spoke to Craig about my +6 that is being built, he said it would be >the new enhanced model, so it might have handlebar clearance problems? I would email Craig to confirm, but based on my experiences with him in the past, I am pretty sure that there will NOT be a problem with the fit. He is aware that there was a problem on a select few units, and he has addressed that. Let us know how you like the +6.... fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 17:02:35 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Clearview Shields To: jbarlow@telcordia.com Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jbarlow@telcordia.com writes: >Francois, >Thanks for the informative update - lots of good info there. >I also am impressed with Clearview's attempt to deliver quality. > >But I have to ask - what is the bottom line if we are currently waiting for >a shield - should we be concerned about the clearance of the new design? >When I spoke to Craig about my +6 that is being built, he said it would be >the new enhanced model, so it might have handlebar clearance problems? > >Joel Barlow >Belle Mead, NJ >'98 Pacific Coast- "Serendipity" > >AMA: #319133 >HRCA: #465660 > Rumor has it that a new enhanced model, the +96. will be released from Clearview for the PC800 shortly. The curve at the top wraps over the top of your head and snaps onto the Givi rack. It is being developed to silence all the whiners complaining about the "back pressure" when they ride and the air stream hitting the top of their helmets. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:18:56 -0700 Not a problem with mind, maybe your bars are rotated up more than most of us. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Revill Dunn To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:11 AM Subject: PC800: Clearveiw +5 safety hazard >I wonder if any of you have experienced this. Last night, I installed a new >Clearview +5 on my as yet unnamed PC800. I noticed as I rolled it out of the >garage for a test ride that the brake lever hits the shield at full lock. > >Took it for a test spin; much better. the turbulence hits the top of my >helmet, as it should. Very good ride. Gee. This thing really does have a >motor after all. I just couldn't hear it before from the wind. > >This morning, I rode to work. As I was rolling into my parking spot, I made my >usual dive for the end of the spot next to it, then swing around to park >pointing out. As I made the swoop, the brake lever (with my finger between it >and the shield) hit the shield and locked the front brake. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 17:42:16 -0400 Subject: PC800: Americade 2000 for Pacific Coasters To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Your Americade confirmations should be arriving in the mail pretty soon so everyone will know what their schedules will be for the first full week of June. I've been working on a little tour to offer up to my fellow Coasters that involves what I'm told are some nice roads and some great food. The food part I saw on TV, then a Winger that I have been communicating with sent me information about a route he likes that includes a stop at this famous place. My "tour package" will include a map and full directions so even if you can't make it with others it will be available (electronically of course) for you to keep. Originally I thought I'd set up a lunch trip to the Dog Sled Tavern, but then I found out it is only open for lunch during Americade week for the Americade tour groups. Drat! I know I only signed up for one morning tour (Thurs. choice 1, Friday choice 2) so my schedule is free and easy this year. Since I did not get a notice to choose another one I just have to wait and see which day they assigned to me. So far I have not heard of anyone else setting up a meeting time or place for we "birds of a feather" to gather at Americade this year. If I missed something please clue me in. I'll be arriving late Wednesday afternoon (or earlier if I can sneak out of work sooner) and staying with Francois Saint Laurent at the Antigua Resort (http://www.antigualakegeorge.com/) on the southeast side of Lake George. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:51:01 -0700 I just received my battery Monitor from STA and was kind surprised at it's small size, should make installation pretty easy. Where I want to install it is in a upper corner of the dash instrument panel, under the glass. Looks like there should be plenty of room for it, unless there is something beneath the panel that would interfere. Before I take the panel all apart, has someone already done this and can tell me if there is enough room behind the instrument panel? If there is no room, I don't want to take it all apart just to find out, unless I have to. Thank you all. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:55:12 -0700 Will, Can you take a picture of it to share with the rest of us. STA's web site is useless for pictures of most of what they sell. If you have the service manual, there is a nice exploded view drawing of it that might help you to know what is behind the front plate and you might be able to tell if it could mount where you want it to. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 17.5k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Will Edwards > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:51 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: Battery Monitor Question > > I just received my battery Monitor from STA and was kind surprised at > it's small size, should make installation pretty easy. Where I want to > install it is in a upper corner of the dash instrument panel, under > the glass. Looks like there should be plenty of room for it, unless > there is something beneath the panel that would interfere. Before I > take the panel all apart, has someone already done this and can tell > me if there is enough room behind the instrument panel? If there is no > room, I don't want to take it all apart just to find out, unless I > have to. > Thank you all. > > Will Edwards rstar@aa.net > http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ > Washington State > 96 Honda PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... > . > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Adams" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: EAST COAST RIDE CANCELED Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 18:06:54 EDT Thanks for your trouble; But, don't the Jersey Shore hotels also close after Labor Day? >From: KC2ATQ@aol.com >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: EAST COAST RIDE CANCELED >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:53:23 EDT >MHotMailBAD0BEF50075D820F3DF8107803109BC0; Wed Apr 26 15:55:55 2000 >lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31623;Wed, 26 Apr 2000 >17:55:49 -0500 (CDT) >Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:55:08 -0500 (CDT) >sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28294for ; >Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:54:59 -0500 (CDT) >x.84.46fcacb (4397) for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:53:23 -0400 >(EDT) > >I am sorry to report that the EAST COAST RIDE has been cancelled. I have >tried with five hotels for a group rate with no luck. Plus ALL of them >wanted >a two night minimun, which only a few of you wanted. The lowest price rooms >I >could come up with in a Nice, Clean and Safe Parking Hotel was 88.00 plus >tax. No Bargain !! Maybe we will tried in the fall, rates dive to nothing >after September. >I apologize for any trouble and plan changes any of you made, and still >hope >to meet you soon. Til then >Ride Safe >Jim T >Beachwood, >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:20:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boles Subject: PC800: PC800 owners in SoCal (LA/OC) to look at a bike this W-E? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --0-2044897763-957565205=:10156 Is there a PC800 owner in the North Orange County, CA area who might be out for a ride this week-end and willing to take a look at a PC800 for sale at a dealership? I can't make it down untill Wednesday (I'm in the SF Bay area) and would sort of like to know if this bike is worth the scramble to put together the logistics to possibly snag it while I'm down. I'm not looking for someone to make my decision for me, but rather to take a look and reach their own conclusion and let me know what they think. About this specific bike. That I might like to buy... I have not been here long, but I think this is the kind of thing we're here for... Regards, Tom Boles PC800 hope to be... --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-2044897763-957565205=:10156

Is there a PC800 owner in the North Orange County, CA area who might be out for a ride this week-end and willing to take a look at a PC800 for sale at a dealership?

I can't make it down untill Wednesday (I'm in the SF Bay area) and would sort of like to know if this bike is worth the scramble to put together the logistics to possibly snag it while I'm down.

I'm not looking for someone to make my decision for me, but rather to take a look and reach their own conclusion and let me know what they think. About this specific bike. That I might like to buy...

I have not been here long, but I think this is the kind of thing we're here for...

Regards,

Tom Boles

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Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-2044897763-957565205=:10156-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:27:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC - Do NOT open attachment / "ILOVEYOU" To: "R. Fenwick" Cc: PC800 Also if you get an e-mail with the subject line "fwd:Joke", DO NOT OPEN IT. This is a variation of the existing "ILOVEYOU" virus that is out there. The file that is attached is called "Very Funny.vbs" and will do nasty things to your computer. If you get an attachment and the extension of the file is '.vbs' be careful. It stands for Visual Basic Script and depending what operating system and programs are loaded on your computer it will run. I hope all these guys that make these viruses rot. --- "R. Fenwick" wrote: > All - > > I resist passing on information about emails and > viruses and such, but we are > getting hit pretty hard on this one here at work... > This one is very, very > real, and worldwide. I'm somewhat surprised that > this hasn't accidentally hit > the PC list yet (but it still could, hence this > warning...). > > It is an email with the subject line "ILOVEYOU". It > has an Visual Basic script > attachment which WHEN OPENED, goes through and > automatically re-mails itself to > everyone in your address book. Through my contacts > with other companies, I > have heard first hand that an administrator at > another company has received it > 500 times so far today... Supposedly it started > in/around Hong Kong just > yesterday afternoon. > > Do NOT open the attachment - Trash it immediately, > then go delete it from your > trash file. > > See this for more info: > http://foxnews.com/vtech/050400/bug.sml > > Rich Fenwick > Network Analyst (and PC owner...) > NovaNET Learning ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:41:05 -0500 "Re: PC800: Non PC - Do NOT open attachment / "ILOVEYOU"" (May 5, 3:27pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC - Do NOT open attachment / "ILOVEYOU" You don't hear about this in the media, but the fact that vbs is capable of doing harm to your computer or files is a deliberate microsoft feature. Macs don't catch these things. Neither do any unix or linix systems. Microsoft decided to make it easier for them to run applets on x86 systems, so they just let the applets do any damn thing they please. Real operating systems don't let one application affect another, and most importantly, don't let any application affect the operating system, hard drives, file storage, or any of that stuff. If an application wants something, it has to ask the OS for it and the OS will decide whether or not to let it happen. Microsoft just hands anybody the keys, and says "try not to have a wreck". This isn't really for the PC800 net, I guess, but you all are affected too. Yeah, the scum that write this stuff should be made to clean hog waste lagoons with soda straws, but Microsoft deserves a lot of the blame too. Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay5.smtp.psi.net [38.9.28.2]) with SMTP; 6 May 2000 01:36:36 UT Fri, 5 May 2000 18:50:57 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:47:21 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 owners in SoCal (LA/OC) to look at a bike this W -E? Boundary="0__=sl3sTmkmif92bMyciVFREZb7DRLTTgkjgbinb3FmvEK7mzBgvPRFQU1Z" --0__=sl3sTmkmif92bMyciVFREZb7DRLTTgkjgbinb3FmvEK7mzBgvPRFQU1Z I have looked at bikes in the area. I can check out Bert's in Covina to see if they have any new bikes. The last time I was there they had two bikes - an 89 that they wanted $4100, and a 95 for $4900. Bert's tends to be high on the $$$ side. By the way, the 89 had 13k miles on the odometer, but I think it was 113k. Even if they don't have anything you want, you should still check them out - they are HUGE. I was also out in San Bernardino at Chapparell. They had two bikes - a 90 with 37k for $3900 - it had a pretty pin stripe job on it. The other bike was newer (forgot the year) for about $4300 - it was already set up for cold weather - had heated grips and an all weather jack for an electric vest. It had a, I think, russell leather saddle. Both of these stores are large, but Berts is a sight to see. Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" KF6USJ - San Gabriel Valley Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com Tom Boles on 05/05/2000 03:20:05 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: PC800 owners in SoCal (LA/OC) to look at a bike this W-E? Is there a PC800 owner in the North Orange County, CA area who might be out for a ride this week-end and willing to take a look at a PC800 for sale at a dealership? I can't make it down untill Wednesday (I'm in the SF Bay area) and would sort of like to know if this bike is worth the scramble to put together the logistics to possibly snag it while I'm down. I'm not looking for someone to make my decision for me, but rather to take a look and reach their own conclusion and let me know what they think. About this specific bike. That I might like to buy... I have not been here long, but I think this is the kind of thing we're here for... Regards, Tom Boles PC800 hope to be... --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay5.smtp.psi.net [38.9.28.2]) with SMTP; 6 May 2000 02:22:27 UT Fri, 5 May 2000 19:36:48 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:33:08 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: check out a PC800 this week? By the way - chaparall is on the internet. I don't know the website, but they are listed in the back of Motorcyclist - they usually have a 4-6 page ad in the back. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: "Christoffer Carstanjen" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: The duck tail , What is in there? Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:39:20 -0700 Well this is what I think is up there. - Dead bodies from all the people that call my bike a scooter! - A Neutrino Discharge Tacheon Flux Capacitor - Oxygen Rebreather - Homing Pigeon - The Omega 13 Device - All the oil that leaks from my Harley - Four Condoms, a disposable shaver, and a Moist Towlette. Wishful thinking! - Helium Back-Pack - All the bridge toll money that have flown out of the faring pocket. - One fast running squirrel and squirrel cage. - All the keeper pins I keep dropping as I try to place that air shock on for the trunk. (They must be up there because they never fall through?) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Christoffer Carstanjen To: PC 800 List Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:01 AM Subject: PC800: What is in there? >Then you open the back and look up under the lid and >then say"....just what is up in there?.." > >So, what is in there? Anyone open it up? Is it solid? >Is it a liquid? Personal Flotation device? Parachute? >Lo-Jack equipment? Oil Reserve? Smuggling compartment >for Metamucil? Second battery? Blow-up Doll? > >????? > >===== >Christoffer Carstanjen - >98PC800 (unnamed, but leaning towards: lil' red riding hood) >------------------------------------------------------- >--I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. >Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Peter Noeth" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 03:19:03 -0700 I should have thought about some photo's. Go here for a group of photo's: Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=5926643 The LED part is about 2 1/4" long, about 2" would be behind the dash, so that is how much room I would need. It is 1/4" diameter. I purchased it from STA, but the packaging reveals it is made by the Electrical Connection, at: http://electricalconnection.com That is where I purchased my driving lights from I want to drill & mount the LED above the speedometer, either to the left or right if it. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:57 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Battery Monitor Question >Will, > > Can you take a picture of it to share with the rest of us. STA's web site is >useless for pictures of most of what they sell. If you have the service manual, >there is a nice exploded view drawing of it that might help you to know what is >behind the front plate and you might be able to tell if it could mount where you >want it to. > >Regards, > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 17.5k, '99 Bushtech >Quantum trailer. > > >> ---------- >> From: Will Edwards >> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:51 PM >> To: PC800 >> Subject: PC800: Battery Monitor Question >> >> I just received my battery Monitor from STA and was kind surprised at >> it's small size, should make installation pretty easy. Where I want to >> install it is in a upper corner of the dash instrument panel, under >> the glass. Looks like there should be plenty of room for it, unless >> there is something beneath the panel that would interfere. Before I >> take the panel all apart, has someone already done this and can tell >> me if there is enough room behind the instrument panel? If there is no >> room, I don't want to take it all apart just to find out, unless I >> have to. >> Thank you all. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 08:12:20 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: Will Edwards Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Mail-Followup-To: Will Edwards , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Thanks Will! I have added these links to the "Stator FAQ" at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > I should have thought about some photo's. Go here for a group of > photo's: > Photo Album: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=5926643 > > The LED part is about 2 1/4" long, about 2" would be behind the dash, > so that is how much room I would need. It is 1/4" diameter. I > purchased it from STA, but the packaging reveals it is made by the > Electrical Connection, at: > http://electricalconnection.com > That is where I purchased my driving lights from > I want to drill & mount the LED above the speedometer, either to the > left or right if it. > > > Will Edwards rstar@aa.net > http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ > Washington State > 96 Honda PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... > . > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Noeth > To: PC800 > Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:57 PM > Subject: RE: PC800: Battery Monitor Question > > > >Will, > > > > Can you take a picture of it to share with the rest of us. STA's > web site is > >useless for pictures of most of what they sell. If you have the > service manual, > >there is a nice exploded view drawing of it that might help you to > know what is > >behind the front plate and you might be able to tell if it could > mount where you > >want it to. > > > >Regards, > > > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 17.5k, '99 > Bushtech > >Quantum trailer. > > > > > >> ---------- > >> From: Will Edwards > >> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:51 PM > >> To: PC800 > >> Subject: PC800: Battery Monitor Question > >> > >> I just received my battery Monitor from STA and was kind surprised > at > >> it's small size, should make installation pretty easy. Where I want > to > >> install it is in a upper corner of the dash instrument panel, under > >> the glass. Looks like there should be plenty of room for it, unless > >> there is something beneath the panel that would interfere. Before I > >> take the panel all apart, has someone already done this and can > tell > >> me if there is enough room behind the instrument panel? If there is > no > >> room, I don't want to take it all apart just to find out, unless I > >> have to. > >> Thank you all. > >> > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 07:23:26 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Battery Monitor Question To: rstar@aa.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rstar@aa.net writes: >I should have thought about some photo's. Go here for a group of >photo's: >Photo Album: >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43057&a=5926643 > >The LED part is about 2 1/4" long, about 2" would be behind the dash, >so that is how much room I would need. It is 1/4" diameter. I >purchased it from STA, but the packaging reveals it is made by the >Electrical Connection, at: >http://electricalconnection.com >That is where I purchased my driving lights from >I want to drill & mount the LED above the speedometer, either to the >left or right if it. > > >Will Edwards Will, you will probably want to use one of the plastic covers provided in the kit to dim down the LED so it is not too bright at night. I'm not sure you will be happy with how bright it is at night placing it where you want to place it. I have mine located where I can't even see it directly without leaning forward, but at night I get this bright green (hopefully it is green:-) light reflected in the center of my windshield. There are some nights when I even cover up the light to stop this reflection. I did not use any of the covers supplied in the kit. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Young" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:45:40 -0400 Tim, I enjoyed your PC's thoughts....I wonder if my PC800 LTD has thoughts and if she does....Hmmm I just wonder..... Chuck Young 1990 PC800 LTD (Livin' The Dream) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: PC800: The Stealth Strikes Back > I've been a good bike, really I have! I'm quiet and reliable. I've carried > Tim and Nan on some amazing journeys since 1994 when they bought me new. He > wanted me to plow through the snows and high winds of Wyoming, South Dakota > and Missouri in February, no less, just because he wanted to go see what > Daytona was all about. Nan somehow always manages to find a "shortcut" on > the map that includes dirt and gravel. I've uncomplainingly dragged the two > of them up and down the Sierras and the Rockies more times than I can count. > They ask me to do 700 to a thousand miles in a day---no problem. Just keep > feeding me gas and keep the tires full. Change my oil regularly and don't > forget the spark plugs need changing occasionally. That's all I ask. > > So was it my fault that at 95K my rear end went? Yours would to if some > moron mechanic in Orlando forgot to grease you during a tire change. And > could I help it if my stator finally quit after 97,000 miles of industrious > output? Hey, things wear out! And I certainly didn't have anything to do > with the mud on the blind curve that was my downfall at 108K. That hurt! I > have scars. > > I'd heard Tim and Nan talking about getting a bigger bike to "keep me > company" many times in the past. Just figured that was all it was.talk. They > do that. A lot. And I was mildly surprised on the 15th of April when the two > of them got in the car and drove off. They hardly ever take the car > anywhere. At least not together. But it was downright shocking when the > garage door opens later that afternoon and Tim rides in on a brand new > ST1100! And he had this great big grin on his face-that same grin that I > thought was reserved for me when we'd had an especially fine day together > tackling twisties and running in the wind. > > And look at that prissy little bitch just sitting over there posing for > invisible cameras. I used to be that shiny too. But that was 113K and many > roads ago. And now people stop by just to look at her.my, how she eats up > that attention. And Tim talks about how she'll take them all over the > country and oh, yeah, she has this huge gas tank and we're going to buy her > new goodies to make her even better. And me? I'm dismissed as the "commuter > bike"; still reliable but relegated to short trips around the area. Like I'm > old or something. > > And they have the audacity to name her "STealthmobile II"! I won't even go > there.. > > And then last Saturday Tim and Nan decide to bail out on their > responsibilities and head down to northern California for that Grand Tour > checkpoint on the Klamath Highway. But who isn't ready to go the distance? > Yeah, you.you insolent.well, let's just say I don't usually use the words > I'm thinking. So once again they stuff the bags in my trunk, slap the > tankbag on, and head out of town way too late to be doing anything remotely > resembling a leisurely ride. But they do it anyway, running down to Happy > Camp and back up to Grants Pass for the night. Can Prissy Baby give them 500 > miles in nine hours? Not sitting in a garage.! > > But I'm tired. My joints are creaky and I'm cranky. I wanted to rest some > more in the morning but they wanted to get home early. And just south of > Eugene I can feel it-my exhaust manifold is really starting to hurt a lot. I > tried to hold together but the fatigue was just too much. Within ten miles I > go from being the quietest bike on the road to a Harley wannabe. I know I > can get them home, but oh, the headache I gave Tim from the noise! Serves > him right. > > So now I'm broken---and broken-hearted. Instead of going out for the daily > romp into Portland I sit here in the garage waiting for that damned cat to > spray my tires. I know that my new manifold is on the way, but now Tim's > talking about doing some more much-needed maintenance. Finally! How many > times have I told him in the past to at least stop riding long enough to > minister to my complaints? > > But the real heartbreak is that now he has to ride that Bitch to work. All I > can hope for is that it rains every day so she at least gets her skirts wet. > Then maybe she'll stop being so aloof and at least talk to me at night. > > I'm so lonely. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E7DU9WJR; Sat, 06 May 2000 08:34:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 08:31:16 -0400 Subject: PC800: Your riding pants experience? From: "Harvey P. Sattin" How do you know what's the correct length for riding pants? I got a pair of Darien pants. When I put them on, they are way too long. The knee pads are at my shins, the bottom edge of the pants drags on the ground. At this point the pants appear to be 4 inches too long overall. Before sitting on my PC, I have to pull up the pants and hike up the legs a bit. The pads then seem to fall almost into place, the top of the hard plastic part is just at the top of the knee. The bottom edge of the pants wind up just on the top of my shoes. I'd guess that it works when sitting on my PC, but when off the bike they are just way too long. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:05:48 -0400 To: "Harvey P. Sattin" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Your riding pants experience? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:31 AM -0400 5/6/00, Harvey P. Sattin wrote: >How do you know what's the correct length for riding pants? Well, if people are always asking you if you have water in your basement, or if mother's stop to tell you that you should have washed them in cold water, then they are too short. :-) I prefer a riding pant that fits perfectly when sitting down, and is to long when standing up. The pair I have now have a Velcro cuff at the bottom, so I can make them tight around the ankle so they don't drag on the ground when standing or walking. Aside from the length, how do you like the Darien pants? fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E7EQWJC8; Sat, 06 May 2000 16:37:07 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: n1php@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 16:34:17 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Your riding pants experience? From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Francois, I suppose I have the right pants length then. Now I won't have to send them back for alterations. Since they are riding pants, they should fit properly when riding. With the PC's wind-up-the-pants feature I figure longer is better when the temperature drops. Having the pants length correct while riding will also keep my feet drier in the rain. All of my riding jackets have sleeves that are too long when standing with my arms by my sides, but the sleeve length is perfect for my riding position. I ordered the regular 500 denier Cordura Darien jacket which will be shipping this week. I didn't know which Darien pants to get so I ordered both the light and the regular. When the pants arrived yesterday it was difficult at first to tell which was the light and which was the regular. The regular weight Dariens didn't fit as well as the light because the material was more stiff and didn't fall properly into place. The Cordura of the Darien regular pants was coarse and would probably take some paint off my PC as I ride. The Darien Light pants have a softer, smoother texture that is not likely to remove paint from the bike. The Darien Light was much more comfortable. The material just plain feels better and looks better. They'd be cooler in the Summer too which is of great concern to me. The Gore-tex is white in the Darien Regular and a dark silverish bronze in the light version. The Darien pants are very well made. Everything people say about this product is true. Since I already have a pair of Motoport Challanger AX pants, which are great in the winter, I decided to keep the Darien Light pants and send back the regular Dariens. I would wear the Darien light pants more often than I would wear the Darien regulars. I also got the hip pads because, well, you gots to have them for protection. The knee pads in both the Darien regular and Darien light are identical. It's a very soft and squishy-feeling viscoelastic material which is covered with a hard plastic shell on the outside. It quickly and easily conforms comfortably to the body part that it is protecting. The pants have different snaps that adjust the waist and a stretchy panel in the back for future expansion. They fit good, they're made good, they feel good. Easy to get on and off, much easier than my Motoports. Andy Goldfine, the president of Aerostich, wears the light pants. In this age of litigation, they just won't tell people to get the light versions. I don't have to bring rain gear with me anymore. I'll probably put some detailed pictures and comments about all my riding gear on my website in the near future. It will need its own closet soon. Thanks. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA On Sat, 6 May 2000 09:05:48 -0400 Francois Saint Laurent writes: > At 8:31 AM -0400 5/6/00, Harvey P. Sattin wrote: > > >How do you know what's the correct length for riding pants? > > Well, if people are always asking you if you have water in your > basement, or if mother's stop to tell you that you should have > washed > them in cold water, then they are too short. :-) > > I prefer a riding pant that fits perfectly when sitting down, and is > > to long when standing up. The pair I have now have a Velcro cuff > at > the bottom, so I can make them tight around the ankle so they don't > drag on the ground when standing or walking. > > Aside from the length, how do you like the Darien pants? > > > fsl :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Mark Skrocki" , Subject: Re: PC800: charging system woes (still long) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 22:59:00 +0100 Hi Mark Mark Skrocki scribed: (with selective snipping) >I own an '89 me too >all I got was this clicking sound from under the seat me too > Now I've heard about the problems with the early PC's charging system, so I'll expect the worse but any help any other member can offer would be greatly appreciated. Here goes >I removed the battery and charged it until the little LED on the Craftsman charger says it's full (the better part of a day). Check it with my multi-meter it shows about 13.5 volts. Battery is ok then. >Step 2 "Regulated Voltage/Ampere Inspection". My battery exceeds the minimum 12.8 volts required between terminals. So I'm directed to start the bike, let it warm up to operating temperature, then turn the ignition switch off. Then to connect the meter between the battery terminals. But the manual fails to state just what it is that I'm looking for. At least 12.8v Hopefully at least as much or more V than you started with. >After letting the bike idle for about 15 minutes until the temp gauge showed to the little mark I turned the bike off as directed and found a slight voltage drop from the previous 13.5 to around 12.8 volts. I'll assume that is not good. Correct >The second part of this test involves connecting the meter between the positive lead (positive probe) in the starter/relay harness and the positive battery terminal (negative probe). Now with the bike running you should see between 13.5-15.5 volts showing on the meter @ 5000 rpm as stated in the manual. >Now the manuals specific directions have you remove the main fuse from the starter relay, reconnect the connector securely, connect the ammeter (as previously described above), then start the bike and gradually increase the engine speed. Now maybe it's me but without the main fuse the bike won't start. But your AMMETER is now in place of the FUSE. This test is to check the current going to the battery. When you start the engine you will see negative current, ( battery suppling starter) and when the engine is running you will see Positive current, (generator supplying battery) >So I replace the fuse and conduct the test. I see no more than 12.6 volts, On an ammeter??? >Has anyone else on the list tried to perform this test, Yes, and it worked OK >Regulator/Rectifier Wiring harness inspection. OK the first question I have here is although my PC is an '89, according the the wiring diagram, the regulator circuit shown that matches my bike is marked for after '89. My wife's bike is also an '89 and it matches mine in this area as well, it has only one 6P (white) connector, * on additional 4P (white) connector,* as shown in the manual. *I suspect a Typo here. I think you mean NO additional connector. Had me wondering what you meant. Hmm Looks like they have both had new stators then. >The alternator test checks out fine as to the resistance, but I don't have a continuity check feature on my meter, Yes you do, All Ohm meters check continuity, thats what they do. Infinite resistance = no continuity 0 resistance = continuity All points in between = a degree of continuity, measured in Ohms (omega) It looks from here as if you are having a problem using your meter. I think the stuff below might help. If you know all this stuff anyway, never mind, I have some exams coming up soon so it will help me to write it up anyway. I suspect you have a multimeter with at least 3 scales: Volts. Electrical pressure. This should be connected in parallel. eg. either side of a bulb to measure the voltage drop. Amps. Current. This should be connected in series. eg Can be used in place of a fuse to measure the current passing thru the circuit. Ohms. Resistance. Only connected in a non-live curcuit. Used for measuring the degree of continuity in a circuit. An ohm meter has its own power supply to apply to the circuit. These 3 are related as follows I=V/R where I = amps V= voltage and R = resistance. I suspect your rectifier / regulator is shot. This device takes the AC coming in from the alternator stator via the 3 yellow wires and runs it through a diode pack, converting it to DC. It then limits the output voltage to 15.5v. genuine HONDA reg/rect are crap. Use a pattern part. They are the same as VFR750 and loads of others. Use some heat conductive paste (same as on CPU chips and heatsinks) on the metal bits that touch the frame, thereby increasing your heatsink to the whole frame. These R/R get hot! BTW my Alternator stator was shot when I bought the bike. A stator from a scrap CX500 will fit (with a small amount of modification) will fit straight into a PC. Mine has done over 4000 miles with one. A you are in the enviable position of having 2 PCs, why not swap out the R/R from one with the other? Or wont the SO let you?;-] Take readings, check one against the other. HTH Russ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1. Part 2 coming up. '89 PC800 "Obelix" Landrover Discovery V8 EFi - LPG dual fuel "Binky" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 17:51:12 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: Ralph Couey CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Winelander Run Ralph Couey wrote: > Hi gang! > > Well, I decided to start small with a group activity. Tentatively scheduled > for May 20 (Saturday) anyone interested can meet me on the River side of the > Missouri State Capitol building between 9:00 and 9:30 a.m. We will leave > Jefferson City and go north on Route 179 to Interstate 70. Then go west > about 4 miles to the Rocheport exit. Riding through Rocheport, we will pick > up U.S. 40 to Route J, then south on route J (which becomes Route O) through > the river town of Huntsdale, across the (newly paved) flats to Route K and > into southern Columbia. > > We will take Route 163 off of Route K, through Rock Bridge State Park to > U.S. 63. We go south on 63 to just north of Jefferson City to Route 94. Go > east on Route 94 to the town of Hermann, where we will stop for lunch. > After lunch, we will take Route 100 back to Jefferson City where the ride > will officially end. Total trip (if I added right) is about 185 miles, a > nice run for those who might be riding back home that night. > > This route takes us through most of Missouri's wine country (Please, no > snickers from Californians), hence the name. > > This is all very informal and unofficial and is sort of a test for me to see > if I can successfully organize and pull off the planned "No-Coast Ride" > later on. > > Hope to see as many of you as can make it. > > Thanx, > Ralph Couey > (H) 573.446.0545 > (W) 660.882.6200 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 17:51:33 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: Ralph Couey CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Winelander Run Ralph, Sounds great. Count me in. If you don't mind , I'll leave the group after the stop in Hermann because that will put me almost back to St. Louis. Just to be able to say I've done the ride in its entirety, I'll go up to Jeff on 100 instead of 50. :-) Anybody else from the St. Louis are sign up yet? Steve DeLorey Ralph Couey wrote: > Hi gang! > > Well, I decided to start small with a group activity. Tentatively scheduled > for May 20 (Saturday) anyone interested can meet me on the River side of the > Missouri State Capitol building between 9:00 and 9:30 a.m. We will leave > Jefferson City and go north on Route 179 to Interstate 70. Then go west > about 4 miles to the Rocheport exit. Riding through Rocheport, we will pick > up U.S. 40 to Route J, then south on route J (which becomes Route O) through > the river town of Huntsdale, across the (newly paved) flats to Route K and > into southern Columbia. > > We will take Route 163 off of Route K, through Rock Bridge State Park to > U.S. 63. We go south on 63 to just north of Jefferson City to Route 94. Go > east on Route 94 to the town of Hermann, where we will stop for lunch. > After lunch, we will take Route 100 back to Jefferson City where the ride > will officially end. Total trip (if I added right) is about 185 miles, a > nice run for those who might be riding back home that night. > > This route takes us through most of Missouri's wine country (Please, no > snickers from Californians), hence the name. > > This is all very informal and unofficial and is sort of a test for me to see > if I can successfully organize and pull off the planned "No-Coast Ride" > later on. > > Hope to see as many of you as can make it. > > Thanx, > Ralph Couey > (H) 573.446.0545 > (W) 660.882.6200 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas E. Page" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 19:40:43 -0700 Importance: Normal Hello friends. I'm new to this list serve. I have two PC800s, a 96 which I will be driving to Boston on or about June 1, and a 97, which will stay with me in Pasadena. The 96 will stay at my lady friend's home to give me PC transportation when I visit! Tom Thomas E. Page PO Box 50332 Pasadena, California 91115-0332 USA 626-583-8218 Fax 801-365-5072 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Don & Deb Fruehling" To: "PC800 ListServ" Subject: PC800: Update: TX PC Ride - May 13th Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 22:11:43 -0500 Howdy ya'll! I have updated the TX PC Ride page (www.vicksburg.com/~defrue/pc800.htm) = with the latest information on the ride. To summarize, we'll be meeting at the WalMart Super Center (1225 Loop = 304 East, Crockett, TX) at 8:30AM, from there we will have some = breakfast then started. It will be a full day! This should be a = very scenic ride and I'd like to get some pictures along the way to = share with the list. So far the riders are: Myself (double-up with Deb) - Ft Worth - '90 PC (confirmed) Peter - College Station - '96 PC (confirmed) Mark - Waco - '96 PC (maybe) If I've missed you (sorry), or you'd like to ride, let me know = (defrue@prodigy.net). Hope to see you there! Don -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sge2000@att.net by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP Sun, 7 May 2000 04:13:30 +0000 To: Steve DeLorey Cc: pcstarship@home.com (Ralph Couey), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) Subject: Re: PC800: Winelander Run Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 04:13:29 +0000 Hi, Steve. I was glad to see your message. I've been watching for others signing up for the Winelander Run. Sounds like a lot of fun. I'll look forward to meeting you and Ralph and anybody else who joins us! -- Steve Ewens Lee's Summit, MO 89 PC800 > Ralph, > Sounds great. Count me in. If you don't mind , I'll leave the group after the > stop in Hermann because that will put me almost back to St. Louis. Just to be > able to say I've done the ride in its entirety, I'll go up to Jeff on 100 > instead of 50. :-) > Anybody else from the St. Louis are sign up yet? > > Steve DeLorey > > Ralph Couey wrote: > > > Hi gang! > > > > Well, I decided to start small with a group activity. Tentatively scheduled > > for May 20 (Saturday) anyone interested can meet me on the River side of the > > Missouri State Capitol building between 9:00 and 9:30 a.m. We will leave > > Jefferson City and go north on Route 179 to Interstate 70. Then go west > > about 4 miles to the Rocheport exit. Riding through Rocheport, we will pick > > up U.S. 40 to Route J, then south on route J (which becomes Route O) through > > the river town of Huntsdale, across the (newly paved) flats to Route K and > > into southern Columbia. > > > > We will take Route 163 off of Route K, through Rock Bridge State Park to > > U.S. 63. We go south on 63 to just north of Jefferson City to Route 94. Go > > east on Route 94 to the town of Hermann, where we will stop for lunch. > > After lunch, we will take Route 100 back to Jefferson City where the ride > > will officially end. Total trip (if I added right) is about 185 miles, a > > nice run for those who might be riding back home that night. > > > > This route takes us through most of Missouri's wine country (Please, no > > snickers from Californians), hence the name. > > > > This is all very informal and unofficial and is sort of a test for me to see > > if I can successfully organize and pull off the planned "No-Coast Ride" > > later on. > > > > Hope to see as many of you as can make it. > > > > Thanx, > > Ralph Couey > > (H) 573.446.0545 > > (W) 660.882.6200 > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 21:37:08 PDT Hey, folks, I think we've got a problem. I don't have a portable computer, and my office is upstairs from my garage. But, when I logged onto the list, I found a post from the Stealth! But...and this is the scary part...there's at least six responses written to her from other owners' PCs! Lee's bike wrote a book, for cryin' out loud, and Will's bike even sent her a virtual sympathy card! Say, Will, have you left your credit card out on the garage bench lately? She is much happier, though, due to all of the positive responses that she got. And she realizes, as all older bikes do, that lust may come and go but love remains forever. Her new manifold pipe came in yesterday, which made her feel good. She was a bit irritated today when I took the Bitc...er...STealth out, but I talked to her a bit before I left and she realizes now that I was just concerned about her well being by giving her plenty of R&R this week. She did want to let everyone on the list know, however, that the tone and tenor of responses from your bikes makes her realize that she's not the only PC having emotional problems. She's starting a support group... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 21:39:44 PDT Hey, folks, I think we've got a problem. I don't have a portable computer, and my office is upstairs from my garage. But, when I logged onto the list, I found a post from the Stealth! But...and this is the scary part...there's at least six responses written to her from other owners' PCs! Lee's bike wrote a tome, for cryin' out loud, and Will's bike even sent her a virtual sympathy card! Say, Will, have you left your credit card out on the garage bench lately? You'd better check your statement... She is much happier, though, due to all of the positive responses that she got. And she realizes, as all older bikes do, that lust may come and go but love remains forever. Her new manifold pipe came in yesterday, which made her feel better. She was a bit irritated today when I took the Bitc...er...STealth out, but I talked to her a bit before I left and she realizes now that I was just concerned about her well-being by giving her plenty of R&R this week. She did want to let everyone on the list know, however, that the tone and tenor of responses from your bikes makes her realize that she's not the only PC having emotional problems. She's starting a support group... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (112K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (Zero K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Your riding pants experience? Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 22:25:39 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Harvey P. Sattin" >How do you know what's the correct length for riding pants? >I got a pair of Darien pants. When I put them on, they are way too >long. >The knee pads are at my shins, the bottom edge of the pants >drags on the >ground. At this point the pants appear to be 4 inches too >long overall. >Before sitting on my PC, I have to pull up the pants and >hike up the legs >a bit. The pads then seem to fall almost into place, >the top of the hard >plastic part is just at the top of the knee. The >bottom edge of the pants >wind up just on the top of my shoes. I'd >guess that it works when sitting >on my PC, but when off the bike they >are just way too long. Guess what, Harvey? Not much you can do about it! :-) I just got some Teknics, and I love 'em, but have the same problem. When I'm off the bike I just pull 'em up grandpa-style about six inches above my waist and cinch the belt for walkin' around time. If they fit perfectly when you're riding then they're doing the job. Since I wear jeans under the pants, I got them all the same way...about 2" to long. When I have my boots on and am sitting on the bike, they're perfect. Off the bike, they're bunched up around my ankles. I've taken to rolling the cuffs up. Figured if it was good enough for me in the (late) 50s it's good enough for me now. Who knows? With the nostalgia trends constantly sweeping this country, I might be "ahead of the curve" on another fad! Of course, this also means that I have to take up smoking again and roll the pack up in my t-shirt sleeve too. And I still have my hair! I can coif it into a ducktail! Where's my AM radio...? Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (112K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 07:08:58 -0700 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy >wrote a book, for cryin' out loud, and Will's bike even sent her a virtual >sympathy card! >Say, Will, have you left your credit card out on the garage bench lately? > I was as surprised as you were. I was wondering where that old laptop disappeared to, I better go check the garage. Oh, I found out long ago that computers and bikes all have there own credit cards. You don't think I am foolish enough to spend all that money on those things do you.... ;-) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: A few questions for the list Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:12:50 -0400 Importance: Normal Hi all, Here's a couple that I've been saving up: 1) What's the best thing to use to clean the tires and rims on the PC? 2) Does anyone have the Hondaline radio kit installed with a picture they could send. I want to complete a radio installation and I'm still hesitant about wanting to drill holes in the bezel on the dash. Is there a different bezel that comes with the Hondaline radio installation? 3) I installed a pair of running lights that I bought of a lister, and when I use them for more then about a half hour, and I park the bike, I find the battery is drained to the point where it needs charging. Is that just the way it is, or is there anything that I can do about it? Hopefully I'll get good answers, and I'll forward them to Regis Philbin for the early rounds. 8-) Russ '98 PC 800 'Pacifica' +7600 miles Americade bound -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Sun, 7 May 2000 07:52:52 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Will Edwards" , Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 07:54:00 -0700 I just don't know about all you guys ... so surprised about the e-mail from you fine machines ...... After all, it is a PC! Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Will Edwards To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Macy >>wrote a book, for cryin' out loud, and Will's bike even sent her a >virtual >>sympathy card! >>Say, Will, have you left your credit card out on the garage bench >lately? >> > >I was as surprised as you were. I was wondering where that old laptop >disappeared to, I better go check the garage. Oh, I found out long ago >that computers and bikes all have there own credit cards. You don't >think I am foolish enough to spend all that money on those things do >you.... ;-) > >Will Edwards rstar@aa.net >http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:34:23 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:26:45 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? > I just don't know about all you guys ... so surprised about the e-mail from > you fine machines ...... > > After all, it is a PC! > > Jim Alexander Hey, I'm goin riding. I'll give Protous a pat on the back befor and after the ride so she don't talk about me behind my back. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:43:28 -0500 Welcome to the list. Let me get this straight. You have two PCs and and lady friend? Are you also a lottery winner? ;-) Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas E. Page" To: Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 9:40 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net > Hello friends. I'm new to this list serve. I have two PC800s, a 96 which I > will be driving to Boston on or about June 1, and a 97, which will stay with > me in Pasadena. The 96 will stay at my lady friend's home to give me PC > transportation when I visit! Tom > > Thomas E. Page > PO Box 50332 > Pasadena, California 91115-0332 > USA > 626-583-8218 > Fax 801-365-5072 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Hey; why wasn't I invited?! Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:43:08 -0700 I was coming back from church and shopping (say that 5 times real = fast!) in my cage with the wife and kiddies, when I saw two...count = em'...two PCs along with 2 or 3 other bikes from the dark side. One of = the PCs was red and I think the other was black. You had just exited = the 23 Frwy in Moorpark and were heading west on New L.A. avenue. =20 (When I got home I noticed that my PC had mysteriously thrown off its = cover and was parked in the driveway with its motor humming, ready for = me to hop on it!) Who were you two?... ...Darth Beau -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BMillman@aol.com for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 16:44:23 EDT Subject: PC800: UK PC Get-Together To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Y'all, Just to report a most enjoyable PC Owners Club Uk get-together at the Bassetts Pole pub at Sutton Coldfield in the heart of rural England (give or take a factory or three). In beautiful sunshine 8 PCs arrived at 2.30pm for a beer (or Coke) and a chat. We had our first siting of a silver/grey PC, very smart too. An import from Japan apparently but it certainly broke up the line of Black and Candy Red. Some of the members are off to France for a holiday in July and we discussed our annual rally which will again be in Wales in August. Let's hope that the weather is like it was today. It was nice to be able to get together in some real California weather, it made me think about the beautiful scenery of the PCH - until I got back on the M6 and reality returned. Ah well roll on September when I can meet you all at the end of the big ride. Safe riding to all our friends all over the USA from the PC Club in the (very warm) UK. Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC 800 - The Palm Tree PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:46:09 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Winelander Run Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:45:47 -0500 Our Motorcycle MaiFest (May Fest in German) May 20, is shaping up real good. Have heard thumbs up from Steve DeLorey and Steve Ewens, and a "gotta work" from Bob Ronecker. Bob, we'll miss you, but we understand. Of course, if you suddenly came down with a bug... Still plenty of room for anyone to come along, dark force or not. Any questions, let me know! Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: electric vest "owey" To: Pacific Coast List Posting Hello all, this weekend, I installed the wiring for my Unobtanium electric vest, it seems such a shame to take off so much plastic to attach one lead to the positive terminal of the battery! Anyway, since we have temps that are twenty degrees above normal for this time of year, I'll have to wait to test the bugger. The quickconnect coiled cord from the vest to the plug had a cracked casing, so Aerostich is sending me a new one. The one that came with it works, but don't want the cracked one. So, my bike did a driveway excessive lean into my stepdaughters car and the new clearview shield has a scrape and the mirrors have some black spots where paint was chipped away. Any suggestions on a fix? As always, I appreciate the advice given. I followed a listers advice on the running of the wiring for the vest and it worked perfectly! Paul in Wisconsin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <005801bfb84b$c1be5ec0$37e994ce@h74678> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 16:44:43 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net >--- Original Message ----- >From: "Thomas E. Page" > >> Hello friends. I'm new to this list serve. I have two PC800s, a 96 which >I >> will be driving to Boston on or about June 1, and a 97, which will stay >with >> me in Pasadena. The 96 will stay at my lady friend's home to give me PC >> transportation when I visit! Tom >> > > Thomas E. Page Wow.... 2 PC's *and* a lady friend..... You're wife sounds like a really tolerant woman..... fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:19:39 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Will..... I just finished installing a RED FLASHING LED light in my dash 2 weeks ago. I placed it roughly in the same spot as you would like to install your LED but on the other side (between TACH and OIL light)..If you want me to send you a pic let me know as I have a great shot of the "finished" product. There is just enough room in behind the dash for the LED but you have to also drill a little hole in the back of the instrument panel for the wiring to exit out. Be prepared as its a lot of work (pick a rainy day!!). If you need any other assistance,ideas,questions...let me know. Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 At 02:51 PM 5/5/00 -0700, you wrote: >I just received my battery Monitor from STA and was kind surprised at >it's small size, should make installation pretty easy. Where I want to >install it is in a upper corner of the dash instrument panel, under >the glass. Looks like there should be plenty of room for it, unless >there is something beneath the panel that would interfere. Before I >take the panel all apart, has someone already done this and can tell >me if there is enough room behind the instrument panel? If there is no >room, I don't want to take it all apart just to find out, unless I >have to. >Thank you all. > >Will Edwards rstar@aa.net >http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:26:32 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: PC800: Regulator/rectifier I just replaced my regulator/rectifier (36100KMS) but have yet to do anything with my stator.I know my stator is going as it seems to only give a charge around 1400RPMs(brings the battery to 13.8V) My question is if I dont do something with the stator soon will it wreck my new regulator/rectifier?? I also replaced it with a new HONDA regulator/rectifier. Is this one going to go bad on me in time too?? Thanks in advance... Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roelke" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: RE: PC800: Your riding pants experience? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:26:11 -0700 Importance: Normal Tim, I have a Tour Master jacket and pants about one size larger than I would normally wear. I got the larger ones so I could wear jeans underneath. One friend said I looked a lot like the Michelin Man. The knee pads ride low until I'm on my bike and then they cover my knees. However, I have been thinking lately that although it makes for a more comfortable ride, the pads are likely not to be in the right location should I ever go down. Same with the elbow and back pads. Partly for these reasons I am beginning to look around for a better fitting riding outfit. --Steve 1996 Red PC800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Tim Macy > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 10:26 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Your riding pants experience? > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Harvey P. Sattin" > > >How do you know what's the correct length for riding pants? > > >I got a pair of Darien pants. When I put them on, they are way > too >long. > >The knee pads are at my shins, the bottom edge of the pants > >drags on the > >ground. At this point the pants appear to be 4 inches too >long overall. > >Before sitting on my PC, I have to pull up the pants and >hike > up the legs > >a bit. The pads then seem to fall almost into place, >the top of > the hard > >plastic part is just at the top of the knee. The >bottom edge of > the pants > >wind up just on the top of my shoes. I'd >guess that it works > when sitting > >on my PC, but when off the bike they >are just way too long. > > Guess what, Harvey? Not much you can do about it! :-) I just got some > Teknics, and I love 'em, but have the same problem. When I'm off > the bike I > just pull 'em up grandpa-style about six inches above my waist > and cinch the > belt for walkin' around time. If they fit perfectly when you're > riding then > they're doing the job. > > Since I wear jeans under the pants, I got them all the same > way...about 2" > to long. When I have my boots on and am sitting on the bike, they're > perfect. Off the bike, they're bunched up around my ankles. I've taken to > rolling the cuffs up. Figured if it was good enough for me in the > (late) 50s > it's good enough for me now. Who knows? With the nostalgia trends > constantly > sweeping this country, I might be "ahead of the curve" on another fad! > > Of course, this also means that I have to take up smoking again > and roll the > pack up in my t-shirt sleeve too. And I still have my hair! I can coif it > into a ducktail! Where's my AM radio...? > > Tim "Scuffy" Macy > Newberg, OR > > Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (112K) > STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) > > AMA #492485 > HRCA #239441 > HSTA #6030 > RCMC > STOC #1571 > > "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in > this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I > didn't live in > this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 08:16:39 EDT Good morning, folks. I returned home yesterday afternoon from my trip to pick up my new PC800, and I wanted to share my experiences. I located what seemed like a really good deal: a 1996 model with 15K miles, Givi 46L trunk, leather Corbin with red piping, Sony stereo w/remote on the clutch master cylinder, tall Honda windshield, etc. for $5000 in Lexington, KY (I'm in the Boston area). The pictures looked good. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I wanted it. I talked him down to $4750, then it was a deal. I got on a plane Saturday morning at 6am. I was a little apprehensive; pictures hide a lot of stuff. The seller met me at the airport in Lexington, KY at 9:30, then took me to his house. He opened the garage door--the moment of truth. Inside sat a bike that looked like it belonged on the showroom floor. It was spotless. I was very pleased. It was in excellent mechanical condition as well. The owner had the original windshield and seat (both look new) that he is shipping back to me. The Corbin seat also came with the passenger backrest. The trunk lights were installed, and there was a shop manual. I couldn't have asked for anything more. After doing a complete checkout, I suited up and hit the road. The ride back was around 970 miles. The PC performed beautifully. I pretty much spent the entire time on the interstate at 75mph, so I'm not going to bore you with the details of the trip. I really dig this bike! I took my fiancee for a ride when I got home, and she's finally happy with a motorcycle. I noticed a few things about the PC that I'd like to find out if they are common, and if anything can be done about them: - The low-rpm carburetion isn't that great. I'll check the carb sync, but does anyone have any tips for these carbs? Do they respond to shimming the needles and opening up the primary adjusters? - The shifting seemed fairly clunky. Can anyone recommend a good oil to smooth things in the transmission? It could use a 6th gear thrown in there somewhere. - The bike seemed less stable than I expected. It wiggled a lot while trying to maintain a straight line at 75mph. The tires are Metzeler ME880's, and the front is worn to the wear indicators and shows a little cupping. I'll see if this changes with a new tire. - I brought a vista cruise with me to put on the bike, then realized some modification would have to be made due to the plastic handlebar covers. I haven't installed it yet; does anyone have any advice before I start cutting things? Just a couple of other comments: - The thing is just too quiet. It's a shame nobody makes an aftermarket exhaust for the PC. - It is soooo nice to have mirrors placed so that you see something besides your shoulders or elbows! Nick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:03:30 -0300 To: "Nick Wright" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Nick: Welcome to the group. That sounds like a gorgeous bike and a GREAT deal. You may want to take a look at the PC Maint/Repair Log Page at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and consider keeping your logs there. I had an identical experience with my '96; I drove down to Connecticut two-up, looked at the mint bike, and fell in love. >- The low-rpm carburetion isn't that great. I'll check the carb sync, but >does anyone have any tips for these carbs? Do they respond to shimming the >needles and opening up the primary adjusters? I doubt it. The carbs are tuned pretty well to the engine; although people claim the bike has a very flat torque curve, IMHO it puts out most of its ooomf on the other side of 5K and it runs like a dream from there right up to redline. You can check the maint log, and do a report on "Fuel" subsystem to see what mods and repairs people have made to their carbs. >- The shifting seemed fairly clunky. Welcome to Honda. Of course the tranny and engine oil are the same. If your oil is old it will make shifting a -little- clunkier and make finding neutral a little harder. >It could use a 6th gear thrown in there >somewhere. Well, really it couldn't. Low gear is low enough to let you lift the front wheel, and there aren't enough horses to make the bike go faster than about 115mph, another gear won't help that, the engine runs very smoothly at 6000rpm at a good highway speed, and with even remotely regular maintenance, the engine will outlast your children's children. >- The bike seemed less stable than I expected. It wiggled a lot while >trying to maintain a straight line at 75mph. The PC has a "feature" called auto-lean. When you hit a crosswind, the bike will lean into it to keep a straight line. You can fight it and get tired, or you can just let go and let the bike lean when it wants to. >- I brought a vista cruise with me to put on the bike, then realized some >modification would have to be made due to the plastic handlebar covers. Just a tiny bit. Cut the tab off the Vista Cruise, drill a tiny hole through it and the handlebar cover, and run a tiny sheet metal screw in to hold it. >- The thing is just too quiet. It's a shame nobody makes an aftermarket >exhaust for the PC. Get a Wallkman and listen to a recording of a Hawg? Tape down your horn button? -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 08:56:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: A few questions for the list "Rutherford L. Le Blang" writes: > 1) What's the best thing to use to clean the tires and rims on the PC? Soap and water for the tires. Use a chrome/aluminum polish on the wheels, then wax them to seal pores in the aluminum and reduce chances for corrosion. They will get dirty with brake dust, but that's life. > 3) I installed a pair of running lights that I bought of a lister, > and when I use them for more then about a half hour, and I park the > bike, I find the battery is drained to the point where it needs > charging. Is that just the way it is, or is there anything that I > can do about it? What year PC? How old is the battery? Define "running lights." Define "drained to the point where it needs charging". Try driving the PC a few times *without* the running lights. If the If the battery delivers enough power to start the bike in the morning, and if the charging problem disappears, the lights are your culprit. 1989 model PC's have notoriously week charging systems; this could be a sign that your alternator is dying. Even later years, while robust, don't have a lot of capacity to spare. For a while I replaced the brake light bulbs with high-output halogen units (20/55 watts, I think) and noticed that the battery tender took several minutes to top off the battery. Since switching back to normal (though still slightly brighter than stock) bulbs, this problem has disappeared. If your "running lights" are a pair of 55 watt (each) auxiliary lights, the extra 110 watts of draw could easily be more than the charging system is delivering. Use the lights only at night, and turn them off several minutes before turning the bike off to give the charging system a chance to put some current back into the battery. Based on recent experience with the battery on my Hawk (similar, sealed gel battery), even though the battery tender was quickly bringing the battery to a "full" charge, it didn't delivery a lot of current for cranking, especially on a cold morning. I decided that although the battery was less than 3 years old, had been carefully prepared and always kept on a trickle charger when the bike wasn't being actively used, a replacement was needed. Problems have since disappeared. The only "abuse" this battery received was providing power for the same over-wattage running light bulbs that I had previously used in the PC. $60 or so for a new battery is cheap compared to being stranded somewhere. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Will Edwards" , Subject: Re: PC800: Psychic Access To Computers? Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:24:49 -0700 . Oh, I found out long ago > that computers and bikes all have there own credit cards Auto Lean, Auto Loan, it's easy to misspell.... Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Leonard Berkeley" To: "Nick Wright" , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:34:55 -0400 > clutch master cylinder, tall Honda windshield, etc. for $5000 in Lexington, KY (I'm in the Boston area). You should have stopped by for a cup of coffee, I live in Portsmouth Ohio about 120 miles north of Lexington. Sounds like you found a good one. Ride safe. Leonard ( Lou) Berkley louberk@earthlink.net webpage http://home.earthlink.net/~louberk/index.html PC 800, 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado, 93 Nighthawk for sale "The weather is here I wish you were beautiful" Jimmy Buffett -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Battery Monitor Question Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 07:24:12 -0700 Greg, Please send any pictures you have. I am waiting to install the the monitor until I receive a motorcycle alarm I have ordered too. The alarm also has a small LED that flashes when the alarm is activated, and I was going to place both of them in the dash, on opposite sides of the speedometer. The alarm I ended up buying is the ThunderPage TP300. You can read about it at: www.harleysecurity.com I looked at a bunch of different alarms, and decided on this one because of it's features. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: g.castle >Will..... > >I just finished installing a RED FLASHING LED light in my dash 2 weeks ago. >I placed it roughly in the same spot as you would like to install your LED >but on the other side (between TACH and OIL light)..If you want me to send >you a pic let me know as I have a great shot of the "finished" product. >There is just enough room in behind the dash for the LED but you have to >also drill a little hole in the back of the instrument panel for the wiring >to exit out. >Be prepared as its a lot of work (pick a rainy day!!). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:43:05 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Nick Wright CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Nick Wright wrote: > - The shifting seemed fairly clunky. Can anyone recommend a good oil to > smooth things in the transmission? Oh,,,,Dear,,,,God. Forgive him O' list, for he knows not what he asks for. ;-) PS. Have fun with the new bike. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:58:03 -0300 To: "g.castle" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Regulator/rectifier Greg: Hello from Halifax. > >I just replaced my regulator/rectifier (36100KMS) but have yet to do >anything with my stator.I know my stator is going as it seems to only give a >charge around 1400RPMs(brings the battery to 13.8V) >My question is if I dont do something with the stator soon will it wreck my >new regulator/rectifier?? No answer from this list will help you in one way or another. Get a charging system indicator, you'll sleep better at night (errr , ride better during the day too.) If you know when the charging system has failed, you can pull the fuse on the headlight, ride all day, charge at night and really hardly be affected even on a trip. -dan Visit the PC Maint Repair Page! http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:48:20 -0500 From: William Drake To: Thomas Ongstad CC: Nick Wright , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Amen, Brother! Thomas Ongstad wrote: > > Nick Wright wrote: > > > - The shifting seemed fairly clunky. Can anyone recommend a good oil to > > smooth things in the transmission? > > Oh,,,,Dear,,,,God. > > Forgive him O' list, for he knows not what he asks for. > > ;-) > > PS. Have fun with the new bike. > > Thomas > -- > 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) > 95Hannigan > > 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) > 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) > GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:25:39 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 , HSTA State Directors Subject: PC800: Alaska Travel It's looking like travelin' time once again, so saddle up, unhitch your steed from its post and giddy-up! Enjoy! http://www.travelalaska.com/h http://www.state.ak.us/local/facts.html -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:40:23 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 , HSTA State Directors Subject: PC800: Alaska Travel - oops! > http://www.travelalaska.com/h ^ You must remove this for the link to work. it should be: http://www.travelalaska.com/ Sorry! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, Alaska (907)474-5520 Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W ------------------------------------------------- Second star on the right, then straight on 'til morning... * * * * * * * * * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas E. Page" To: Subject: PC800: New Subscriber Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:27:49 -0700 Importance: Normal As I'm new to this list, a couple of people have asked me what my story is. Why do I have two PCs, and why am I driving one to Boston, where my girlfriend is. Here's my story. It's sad but true. About a girl that I once new. (Sorry, I lapsed into a 50's Dion flashback.) I was born and raised in Detroit. After 19 years of Catholic schools, and after being laid off from a supposedly secure job, I made my way to LA. I retired from a government job in July of 1999 (Eddie Haskell, Gene Roddenberry, and Daryl Gates worked for the same employer)at a young age to start doing things on my terms, to make up for lost time. My long-term girlfriend, originally from Rochester, NY, has lived in the Washington, D.C. vicinity for the past seven years. Last month, she took a new job in Boston. She went to Boston College for graduate school, and loved living there. So, we have the typical West coast v. East coast disputes. She points out the fruits and nuts in LA, and I point out the frigid winters in the East. (I grew up in the cold of Michigan, but have never once missed it.) Ride up the Angeles Crest Highway on a beautiful January day and you'll understand why So Cal is hard to give up. So, she's settling in Boston. I finally decided that I had to have two-wheeled transportation there. By the way, she loves riding on the back. I couldn't bare to be without a PC here in LA, although I do have a 99 Triumph Legend (class cruiser) and a Honda CH150 scooter (nothing better for errands around town). I also had an 88 Yamaha Venture Royale in beautiful condition. About three weeks ago, I finally decided to trade the Yamaha in on another PC - one I would drive to Boston. So, that's what I did. I traded the Yamaha for a 96 PC to go with the 97 PC. The 96 has only 1800 miles on it, so I've decided to take that one to Boston. I plan to pretty much split my time between LA and Boston. I do look forward to exploring New England on the PC (with California plates). I'm planning on leaving LA on about June 1. Will make my way to Detroit (to visit family), to Rochester, NY (to visit my girlfriend's family), and then on to Boston. So, that's my story. Both my PCs are stock, and are red. The 97 has 10,500 miles on it, and the 96 has 1900. Looking forward to participating in the List Serve. Tom Thomas E. Page PO Box 50332 Pasadena, California 91115-0332 USA 626-583-8218 Fax 801-365-5072 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Revill Dunn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview +5 safety hazard Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 06:31:52 -0700 > > I guess if you've not noticed this problem, you've not got an enhanced screen. > Anyone with a brand new one might want to flop over to full lock and make sure > you won't get surprised. > Thanks for this bunch of helpful info, Revill. I checked mine, bought a month and a half ago, and it is fine, though I have raised my handlebars to a record height (1.5"). It appears to me that raising the bars just moves them roughly parallel with the edge of the screen so I don't think that alone would be the problem. I have nearly an inch of clearance. I am very pleased your discovery was at such little cost to you and the bike. Ain't this list great! Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Nick Wright" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) of "Mon, 08 May 2000 08:16:39 EDT." <20000508121639.27435.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:53:14 -0500 From: David Kelly "Nick Wright" writes: > - The low-rpm carburetion isn't that great. I'll check the carb sync, but > does anyone have any tips for these carbs? Do they respond to shimming the > needles and opening up the primary adjusters? Check the sync, its probably never been done. Should pull from 3k. > - The shifting seemed fairly clunky. Can anyone recommend a good oil to > smooth things in the transmission? It could use a 6th gear thrown in there > somewhere. The PC is a clunky shifter. I've always been a Mobil-1 user but put some NOS (on my shelf for over 5 years) Valvoline 10W40 in the PC this spring. Boy, was that a dud. 15W50 Mobil-1 will be in again before the Honda Hoot. > - The bike seemed less stable than I expected. It wiggled a lot while > trying to maintain a straight line at 75mph. The tires are Metzeler > ME880's, and the front is worn to the wear indicators and shows a little > cupping. I'll see if this changes with a new tire. Strange that a worn Metzeler is already on it at only 15k as most see 10k out of the factory tire and even more out of the Metzeler. > - I brought a vista cruise with me to put on the bike, then realized some > modification would have to be made due to the plastic handlebar covers. I > haven't installed it yet; does anyone have any advice before I start cutting > things? Some would cut the tab off and fasten with a screw. I think the VC needs a little free play to work, so it needs a little groove cut in the plastic housing. If you remove the VC nobody will ever see the cut without looking for it. Remove the right handlebar weight. Then when you put it back on after the VC is installed, use a 5/8" OD washer or two to "lengthen" your handlebars leaving room for the VC between handgrip and the plastic housing. > - The thing is just too quiet. It's a shame nobody makes an aftermarket > exhaust for the PC. Two Brothers Racing used to have a listing for a PC exhaust but have never heard of anybody buying one. The PC is very mildly tuned so it probably won't respond much to exhaust or carburation mods. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id AD083CBE00D8; Mon, 08 May 2000 19:42:32 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:46:18 -0400 On Mon, 08 May 2000 19:53:14 -0500, David Kelly wrote: >> - The low-rpm carburetion isn't that great. I'll check the carb sync, but >> does anyone have any tips for these carbs? Do they respond to shimming the >> needles and opening up the primary adjusters? >Check the sync, its probably never been done. Should pull from 3k. Mine pulls well from 2K, stops lugging at about 1800 rpm (full throttle). I can slow to 25mph and accelerate (carefully) without shifting. The problem is folks expect a V-twin to pull from idle like a Hardly(tm) does... The PC don't... I rode two-up from central MA to Salisbury Beach Saturday, then down to NYC on Sunday, this bike loves to eat slab--will run at 85+ all day with plenty of power in reserve. I had no problem keeping up with a friend (and his wife) on a Valk without having to downshift at all. I'm looking forward to putting that 150/90-15 rear on, but it don't really need it gearing wise--it loves running at 5k-6k. Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:02:19 -0500 I'll add my two cents worth to the carburetion equation. I ride a lot of commuting on crowded (5 mph or less) Interstates and have found that the PC will lug down to about 800 rpm in first. You can actually feel thepower pulses at that speed. Great for the 1 mph creep. I have never had a problem with low speed carburetion but I think that Ron makes a valid point - that the PC is not a 70 - 80 lb/ft. machine. It is very tractable at low rpm and the balance makes it an excellent commuter. As long as I'm typing, I'm sure that most of the list would agree that a new front tire will make a world of difference. You may also want to check air pressure as the Metzelers have a much higher recommended air pressure than the stock Dunlop 555s. Filling them only to the Dunlop recommendations may result in some "squirm" from underinflation. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Kimball" To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 8:46 PM Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) > On Mon, 08 May 2000 19:53:14 -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > >> - The low-rpm carburetion isn't that great. I'll check the carb sync, but > >> does anyone have any tips for these carbs? Do they respond to shimming the > >> needles and opening up the primary adjusters? > >Check the sync, its probably never been done. Should pull from 3k. > > Mine pulls well from 2K, stops lugging at about 1800 rpm (full throttle). I > can slow to 25mph and accelerate (carefully) without shifting. The problem > is folks expect a V-twin to pull from idle like a Hardly(tm) does... The PC > don't... > > I rode two-up from central MA to Salisbury Beach Saturday, then down to NYC > on Sunday, this bike loves to eat slab--will run at 85+ all day with plenty > of power in reserve. I had no problem keeping up with a friend (and his > wife) on a Valk without having to downshift at all. I'm looking forward to > putting that 150/90-15 rear on, but it don't really need it gearing wise--it > loves running at 5k-6k. > > Happy Trails, > Ron > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id A6F21E57004A; Mon, 08 May 2000 21:33:06 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:36:44 -0400 On Mon, 8 May 2000 23:22:11 -0400, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: >Are you going to attack your swing arm with pliers or a welding >torch? I think Steve Wilson tried that size and it rubbed his >swingarm a bit. He ended up doing some cutting and/or bending of >metal to make it fit. I think he bent a flange with visegrips, beat it with a hammer out of the way, then painted it, sounds easy enough. I'll take a look first and see if I can't do a neater job than that, the interference was less than 1/16 inch I think he said. I've got a disk grinder that I'm itching to use. Happy Trails, RK ('90, soon to be "Bigfoot" ;-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: motorcycle book wanted Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:33:47 -0700 Slightly off topic: A friend is looking to buy a copy of the book, "How to Detail a Motorcycle." Whitehorse carried it but it is now out of print. Anyone with a copy to sell? Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo con Brio" 60 Cushman Eagle 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:40 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:43:19 -0500 Hi Ron, I wouldn't use a grinder unless I was going to weld the seam back together when you finish grinding, although, you probably won't have any trouble with the grinder as long as you don't get into the welds. I was able to bend the seam without breaking the spot welds. By putting an extra bend in the seam, without removing any metal, the seam is actually stronger. BTW, I am very happy with the way the bike handles and the fact that the motor is turning less RPMs. I have run a few tanks with the new tire but haven't checked it lately. Next couple of tanks, I'll let you know. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Kimball" To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 10:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) > On Mon, 8 May 2000 23:22:11 -0400, Francois Saint Laurent > wrote: > > >Are you going to attack your swing arm with pliers or a welding > >torch? I think Steve Wilson tried that size and it rubbed his > >swingarm a bit. He ended up doing some cutting and/or bending of > >metal to make it fit. > > I think he bent a flange with visegrips, beat it with a hammer out of the > way, then painted it, sounds easy enough. I'll take a look first and see if > I can't do a neater job than that, the interference was less than 1/16 inch I > think he said. I've got a disk grinder that I'm itching to use. > > Happy Trails, > RK ('90, soon to be "Bigfoot" ;-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: Subject: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:08:07 -0700 >We It finally happened! Not the dream when I go to >school and I'm not wearing any clothes. Much worse >than that. My Radio Died Today! And it's not the fuse!!! >*&#$^@$%$#^@*& > >Has anyone on the list experienced an intermittent >Radio cut-out? Anyone been into one of these radios >"real intimate"? If I need to, it would be nice to have a >veteran to help me trouble shoot the schematic? It's >more prevalent when the bike and climate are cold. >The Right speaker is out almost all the time and the Left >one comes in and out randomly. No change in the radio >with bumps or fork position. I thought it was a fluke the >other day but no, it's here to stay. > >I'm just hoping that it's a connector that backed it's way >out and not an thermal intermittent component problem. > >Well, Expect the worst and hope for the best. >Time to go consult the books and to break out the >Tupperware Wenches! >Wish me luck! > > >Signed: >Neurotic in Newark! > > >Paco and Wendy >MORTTIS is Silent -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: cj russell To: "Paco Solis" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! Just wondering if speaker cut out is common, my left speaker commonly goes out - mostly at low volumes, then raising the volume often brings it back in. By the way - being in the radio business I must say the PC radio (Hondaline Kenwood) works extremely well as far as reception and catching signals goes. CJ Russell 89 "Therapy" ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paco Solis" To: Sent: May 9, 2000 6:08:07 AM GMT Subject: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! >We It finally happened! Not the dream when I go to >school and I'm not wearing any clothes. Much worse >than that. My Radio Died Today! And it's not the fuse!!! >*&#$^@$%$#^@*& > >Has anyone on the list experienced an intermittent >Radio cut-out? Anyone been into one of these radios >"real intimate"? If I need to, it would be nice to have a >veteran to help me trouble shoot the schematic? It's >more prevalent when the bike and climate are cold. >The Right speaker is out almost all the time and the Left >one comes in and out randomly. No change in the radio >with bumps or fork position. I thought it was a fluke the >other day but no, it's here to stay. > >I'm just hoping that it's a connector that backed it's way >out and not an thermal intermittent component problem. > >Well, Expect the worst and hope for the best. >Time to go consult the books and to break out the >Tupperware Wenches! >Wish me luck! > > >Signed: >Neurotic in Newark! > > >Paco and Wendy >MORTTIS is Silent -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New PC: Air filter Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 07:27:12 EDT I forgot to mention that the original owner put a K&N air filter in the PC. Has anyone had any issues with them? Thanks, Nick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 08:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:08:53 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated Mon, 8 May 2000 11:16:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mark Gilb" writes: << I'll add my two cents worth to the carburetion equation. I ride a lot of commuting on crowded (5 mph or less) Interstates and have found that the PC will lug down to about 800 rpm in first. You can actually feel thepower pulses at that speed. Great for the 1 mph creep. I have never had a problem with low speed >> I also use my bike to commute to and from work and it performs flawlessly. The power is more than adequate and at low RPM's it performs very well. I just take it easy on the throttle when I accelerate from low rpms so I don't lug the engine. My PC "Rover" has a Metzler ML2 on the front and the tire handles the rain groves better than any tire I've ever had on a bike. I also find I'm averaging about 50mpg even though I'm in stop and go traffic quite a bit. Watch our for Canadian Geese... Tom Fraser Manassas, VA '96 PC800 "Red Rover" 18,200 miles '97 Suzuki Intruder -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:35:01 -0400 From: Debi To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Intro and tire questions Hi all, I have an 89 PC800 since November last year. Being situated in Virginia just west of Blue Ridge mountains amidst fantastic motorcyling roads, I have ridden about 2000 miles. I'm fairly new to biking. After having ridden with my partner for several years, I bought a Suzuki Savage 650 last year and rode over 7000 miles. We are planning to travel to Glacier National Park this July then down to Utah where we will participate in Concours Owner's Group National meet (my partner rides Concours) then on to Arkansas for the second leg of the National then on back to 3rd leg here in Virginia at Natural Bridge. I was told that my tires were recently replaced when we got the PC and I have perused the archives for this list and have determined that I should get about 10,000 miles on Dunlop or Metzler. I am thinking I will arrange to get new tires in Utah, which will give me close to 7 or 8 thousand miles not counting what I might get between now and July. Anyone have any advice? Does this sound about right? Oh, and....I think I'll carry a stator along too. Debi Ratliff Goshen,VA 89 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:51:32 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: Debi Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and tire questions Mail-Followup-To: Debi , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Debi: > any advice? Does this sound about right? Oh, and....I think I'll carry > a stator along too. I would instead install a charging system monitor. Situation A: Having a light come on on your dash telling you that you have another couple of hours driving, or all day if you disconnect the headlight (and you can charge it when you stop or switch batts daily with someone.) Situation B: having your bike die in the rain 50 miles outside of Poughkeepsie, with the satisfaction of knowing that with a mere 4 hours garage work, a new stator cover gasket, and a charge to your battery, you'll be back on the road with your spare stator installed, which you hope works, and that the regulator/rectifier hasn't failed too which it usually does. I'll take Situation A. It's waayyy cheaper too. -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Revill Dunn" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:12:06 -0500 "PC800: Intro and tire questions" (May 8, 11:35pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and tire questions Debi: I envy you the Blue Ridge. I used to live in Louisa VA, and occasionally would take my Honda Dream (You know, the one with the square headlight?) up to the Parkway. Wonderful, wonderful ride. We don't have anything like that in the Texas Hill Country. Nice rides, but you can't get high enough to escape summer like you can on the Blue Ridge. If you want to replace tires in Utah, you might want to carry a pair with you or order them ahead of time. I made that mistake a couple of years ago and wound up mounting a 1/2 used up tire (for almost new price), rather than wait two weeks for the bike shop to order me a skin or pushing on with a bare one. (They wear out pretty quickly if you're making lots of miles with a load) This was a pretty common tire too. Things would probably be worse for a PC. The tires don't fit a hundred other models. On the other hand, if you need parts for a snowmobile the shops in Utah and Montana and are wonderful sources. They've got ANYTHING! Revill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and tire questions Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:46:01 -0400 On Mon, 08 May 2000 23:35:01 -0400, Debi wrote: >perused the archives for this list and have determined that I should get >about 10,000 miles on Dunlop or Metzler. I am thinking I will arrange >to get new tires in Utah, which will give me close to 7 or 8 thousand >miles not counting what I might get between now and July. Anyone have >any advice? Does this sound about right? I'm only on the second set of tires at 53K, that's over 25k per set of K177's for the math impaired. I wouldn't worry about it. :-) Happy Trails, RK ('90 PC800, soon to be "Bigfoot" if the !@#$%^& back tire ever wears out!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Skert's PinkRibbonRides (fwd) I'm forwarding this as a public service, as it has nothing specifically to do with the Pacific Coast. Carol Yuourski, aka "Skert" is a very determined individual who asks for your assistance. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:05:13 -0400 From: Carol Youorski Subject: Skert's PinkRibbonRides Hi all, I am embarking on an adventure that far surpasses anything I ever thought I would do in my life. It is an adventure for WOMEN. It is an adventure for MEN. It is an adventure of encouragement and hope for anyone that must make a long journey. A journey that seems impossible. I will be riding my motorcycle this August 5,000 miles in 5 days. I will be competing in the ButtLite5K. The following year in August I will be riding in the Iron Butt Rally, 11,000 miles in 11 days. These journeys at one time in my life seemed impossible. Today the thought of riding such a distance is exhilarating. I know I can do it. What I have found out since riding motorcycles is that I can do anything I set my mind to. I want my ride to be a message that "you can do it". I am part of Women's Motorcyclist Foundation (Pony Express Riders, Gin Shear and Sue Slate) and will be riding for the "Cure", Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Research. I didn't know how to go about getting sponsorship so I wrote to Gin and Sue and asked them if they knew how to go about doing this sort of thing. WOW! Did I ever go to the right source. They made me a part of there organization which allows any donation made to me or Susan G. Komen tax deductible. I have gotten some wonderful sponsorship so far, but am in need of a few more specific items: a Valentine radar detector, GPS III, tires, heated gear, computers, a Screaming Memie, and financial help. The amount of money that it will take when all is said and done it close to $15,000 for both of these rides. That includes just about everything from gear to food and lodging. Even though the Iron Butt hotel is a picnic table, I hope to sleep some nights in a real motel with a bed. My significant other, Don MacNeill, will be helping me at the home computer, checking routes, keeping friends and family informed about me, and telling me I have miscalculated my mileage and really don't have time to go to Alaska via Key West, take a nap and call me later. I have some wonderful sponsors already. Ron Fischer of Cycle Comm, Bob Weiss with the Ear Plug Company, Frank Cooper of Adventure Motorcycle Gear and his S/O Linda with LadyRidersWear, and last butt not least, Touring Sport BMW is my sponsoring dealership. I put out a plea to Cybercycle Magazine and got all kinds of offers to spot light me in several women's magazines. Check out my web page: http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/ This web page has been donated to me by BestNetPC, generated by the plea from Cybercycle. I would be grateful for any amount of support you would be willing to provide. Please contact me at: Carol Youorski 404-296-4101 snail mail: 3140 Old Rockbridge Rd. Avondale Estates, GA 30002 Donations may be sent to: Women's Motorcyclist Foundation, Inc. 7 Lent Ave. LeRoy, NY 14482 Attn.: Skert's Pink Ribbon Ride. Gin will send you a letter that can be used for tax deduction. Donations made for Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Research Foundation, please see my web page: http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/ Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Carol Youorski -- ******************************************************+ Carol Youorski RMA #1 Red Motorcycle aka SKERT Association '95 R1100RSL "Dancer" Iron Butt Association Atlanta, Georgia USA SS1000,BB1500,BBG... http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/ AMA #328269 BMWMOA #64389 BMWRA #20648 MOM #1 "A woman who rides a motorcycle is in tune with the universe, a candidate for high adventure." Celestine Sibley _______________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New PC: Air filter Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:53:56 -0400 On Tue, 09 May 2000 07:27:12 EDT, "Nick Wright" wrote: >I forgot to mention that the original owner put a K&N air filter in the PC. >Has anyone had any issues with them? Mine has one that was put in just before I bought it, and the bike DEFINITELY has a hesitation on acceleration unless it's real hot out. I'm gonna raise the needles next tupperware party. I've got the "muffler chirp" bad, too. One of my friends says the chirp might get lots better if I richen up the mixture? 'course I don't wanna screw up the 45-50 MPG I'm getting now. Just cruised 170 miles at 75-85MPH and still got 47 MPG two-up! Oh, yah--Nick, good to see another PC in Massachusetts. What kind of rides you into? I get all over. :-) Happy Trails, RK ('90 PC800, soon to be "Bigfoot" if the !@#$%^& back tire ever wears out!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: FW: CarBuyer Notifier Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:04:09 -0700 > This is your CarBuyer Notifier > ======================================================= > 1994 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 $4000 in Cedar Park, TX > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=134704 > > 1997 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast $5500 in Chapmansboro, TN > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=134556 > > 1997 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast $5500 in Chapmansboro, TN > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=134549 > > ======================================================= > > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > "We are all ignorant, > Its just that each of us doesn't know different things" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 9 May 2000 10:29:23 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Paco Solis" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:41:02 -0500 Paco, I have no experience with the PC radio, but 25 years in the consumer electronics industry, including car stereo. My best guess would be to look at the speakers since this sounds like the most logical problem. You don't say how old your bike is but the speakers could simply be dry rotted. Also, being on a motorcycle, there is a high possibility that someone has turned them up too loud causing the voice coils to burn. If the voice coils are partially burnt they will work sometimes but be distorted at some volumes, could be loud or soft. Second guess would be the controls. The OEM radio has it's controls where they have to see a lot of dirt, moisture etc. all things that don't mix well with electronics. A good cleaning might be the fix. It is VERY rare that solid state electronics have any problems, but intermittent problems are too rare to even consider. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paco Solis To: Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 1:08 AM Subject: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! > > >We It finally happened! Not the dream when I go to > >school and I'm not wearing any clothes. Much worse > >than that. My Radio Died Today! And it's not the fuse!!! > >*&#$^@$%$#^@*& > > > >Has anyone on the list experienced an intermittent > >Radio cut-out? Anyone been into one of these radios > >"real intimate"? If I need to, it would be nice to have a > >veteran to help me trouble shoot the schematic? It's > >more prevalent when the bike and climate are cold. > >The Right speaker is out almost all the time and the Left > >one comes in and out randomly. No change in the radio > >with bumps or fork position. I thought it was a fluke the > >other day but no, it's here to stay. > > > >I'm just hoping that it's a connector that backed it's way > >out and not an thermal intermittent component problem. > > > >Well, Expect the worst and hope for the best. > >Time to go consult the books and to break out the > >Tupperware Wenches! > >Wish me luck! > > > > > >Signed: > >Neurotic in Newark! > > > > > >Paco and Wendy > >MORTTIS is Silent > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 9 May 2000 08:02:51 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:55:58 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paco Solis > >Has anyone on the list experienced an intermittent > >Radio cut-out? > >I'm just hoping that it's a connector that backed it's way > >out and not an thermal intermittent component problem. > > I've had exactly that same problem with the Honda Kenwood radio on my old PC. I checked all the wiring, cleaned everything, sometimes it seemed to help but eventually it all got worse. I checked all the connections with a voltmeter but everything was reading fine. So I took it to an electronics repair shop, he checked out the unit (which I allready had opened, not that hard) and he found a fried little ec (electronic circuit or whatever). All he had to do is find somebody with Kenwood connections in the US to get that little part and he would be ready. The radio has been lying in that shop for more than a year now... since I don't have the PC anymore and since he didn't give me a call yet I'm not doing anything about it anymore.... But regarding the problem I do remember it sometimes being on, sometimes being off for no apparant reason (not related to RPM or speed) and in the end dying completely allthough it did give a frequency reading and that it was receiving and having stereo sound.... I just didn't hear anything... I suggest you take it to a Radio Shack or whatever you have down there and have someone check the unit, that's not that hard for them. Since you live in the US it should be a lot easier for you to get specific parts... I hope... Good luck, Emile, Europe http://piloot.com http://go.to/pc800 '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another Tupperware Party! To: jeff wessel , Paco Solis Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This thread got me thinking, after installing a clearview shield, I bet I COULD actually hear a radio, are any to be had? Paul in Wisconsin --- jeff wessel wrote: > Paco, > I have no experience with the PC radio, but 25 years > in the consumer > electronics industry, including car stereo. My best > guess would be to look > at the speakers since this sounds like the most > logical problem. You don't > say how old your bike is but the speakers could > simply be dry rotted. Also, > being on a motorcycle, there is a high possibility > that someone has turned > them up too loud causing the voice coils to burn. If > the voice coils are > partially burnt they will work sometimes but be > distorted at some volumes, > could be loud or soft. Second guess would be the > controls. The OEM radio has > it's controls where they have to see a lot of dirt, > moisture etc. all things > that don't mix well with electronics. A good > cleaning might be the fix. It > is VERY rare that solid state electronics have any > problems, but > intermittent problems are too rare to even consider. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paco Solis > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 1:08 AM > Subject: PC800: Radio Blues! No No No! Not another > Tupperware Party! > > > > > > >We It finally happened! Not the dream when I go > to > > >school and I'm not wearing any clothes. Much > worse > > >than that. My Radio Died Today! And it's not > the fuse!!! > > >*&#$^@$%$#^@*& > > > > > >Has anyone on the list experienced an > intermittent > > >Radio cut-out? Anyone been into one of these > radios > > >"real intimate"? If I need to, it would be nice > to have a > > >veteran to help me trouble shoot the schematic? > It's > > >more prevalent when the bike and climate are > cold. > > >The Right speaker is out almost all the time and > the Left > > >one comes in and out randomly. No change in the > radio > > >with bumps or fork position. I thought it was a > fluke the > > >other day but no, it's here to stay. > > > > > >I'm just hoping that it's a connector that backed > it's way > > >out and not an thermal intermittent component > problem. > > > > > >Well, Expect the worst and hope for the best. > > >Time to go consult the books and to break out the > > >Tupperware Wenches! > > >Wish me luck! > > > > > > > > >Signed: > > >Neurotic in Newark! > > > > > > > > >Paco and Wendy > > >MORTTIS is Silent > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:33:31 -0500 (CDT) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 19:32:25 -0000 From: "Bill Jackman" To: "pclist" Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and tire questions I could get you info on any local Honda or Indep. Shops in the area. Revill Dunn wrote on 5/9/00 7:14 am: >Things would probably=20 >be worse for a PC. The tires=20 >don't fit a hundred other=20 >models. > >On the other hand, if you=20 >need parts for a snowmobile=20 >the shops in Utah and=20 >Montana and are wonderful=20 >sources. They've got=20 >ANYTHING! > >Revill Bill Jackman=0A= read & "composed" (scribbled) on a Palm III _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 14:52:53 -0400 Subject: PC800: I'm back...I hope. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) The ISP for this email account had a melt down on Saturday morning so I have not been able to connect to the List since then. Just checking to see if I need to resubscribe or if I'm still among the chosen Coasters to be a member of the list. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:54:50 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: I'm back...I hope. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Welcome back (if you receive this)! I hope your ISP didn't get bit by the ILOVEYOU virus. Tom Fraser '96 PC800 "Red Rover" 18,200 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:41:32 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nick Wright" >- The thing is just too quiet. It's a shame nobody makes an > >aftermarket exhaust for the PC. Welcome to the Wonderful World of PCs, Nick! You will find, after a few trips, that you will welcome that quiet "aura" that accompanies the PC. There is nothing more wearing on a long trip to have to also listen to your bike's "song" if it is harsher than a whisper. And you will welcome it if your fiancee accompanies you and you hook up together on an intercom. There was also a good article on aftermarket exhaust systems in MCN--the author shared his tale of putting on a loud aftermarket exhaust and was amazed at how exhausting (pun intended) his first long trip was when he had to deal with the noise. I've had loud and I've got quiet. There's no going back... Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (113K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Radio Blues! Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:52:53 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cj russell Just wondering if speaker cut out is common, my left speaker commonly goes out - mostly at low volumes, then raising the volume often brings it back in. Oh, no, I'm not going there! I know what you guys are doing--you're rubbing it in because you even HAVE a radio! :-( Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (112K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dipstick Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 17:52:44 -0400 Checked my oil yesterday, how long is the "crosshatched" part on the dipstick supposed to be? Mine seems short at about an eighth of an inch, too short to check. Makes one wonder where the rest went to. :-( Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Nick Wright" , Subject: Re: PC800: New PC: Air filter Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:05:33 -0400 I personally feel the K&N is too pourous. I put one in a 78 Wing when it was a year old and noticed the oil looked dirtier at the 3000 mile oil changes. @ 74k the engine was pretty much wore out. The only benefit I saw was that it was cheaper to maintain (in the short run). Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nick Wright To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:29 AM Subject: PC800: New PC: Air filter >I forgot to mention that the original owner put a K&N air filter in the PC. >Has anyone had any issues with them? > >Thanks, >Nick >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by postoff1.data-tronics.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-65117U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:05:23 -0500 Tue, 9 May 2000 17:05:23 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dsharum@data-tronics.com (David Sharum) To: "'pc800'" Subject: RE: PC800: Dipstick Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:06:35 -0500 Importance: Normal Ron, Sounds like someone put it in wrong... and snapped it off. Or someone put it in while it was running... oops... I would guess the hash marks on my oil dip stick is approx. 1 inch long. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Ron Kimball Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 4:53 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dipstick Checked my oil yesterday, how long is the "crosshatched" part on the dipstick supposed to be? Mine seems short at about an eighth of an inch, too short to check. Makes one wonder where the rest went to. :-( Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Debi" , Subject: Re: PC800: Intro and tire questions Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:20:47 -0400 If you plan to buy tires in Utah, Contact a shop in the area and make arrangements with them in advance. The PC has a unique tire size and only a couple of makers, they may be hard to come by. If need be buy them and have them delivered to the shop. As far as the stator goes, don't worry about it. They all don't fail, and if your's does, you can pull the headlight fuse on your PC and charge the battery @ night. You may want to get some type of monitoring system installed. I'm sure that there are a lot of '89 ers here that can help you out. Enjoy the ride Mike Whited '94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Debi To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: PC800: Intro and tire questions >Hi all, > I have an 89 PC800 since November last year. Being situated in >Virginia just west of Blue Ridge mountains amidst fantastic motorcyling >roads, I have ridden about 2000 miles. I'm fairly new to biking. After >having ridden with my partner for several years, I bought a Suzuki >Savage 650 last year and rode over 7000 miles. We are planning to >travel to Glacier National Park this July then down to Utah where we >will participate in Concours Owner's Group National meet (my partner >rides Concours) then on to Arkansas for the second leg of the National >then on back to 3rd leg here in Virginia at Natural Bridge. I was told >that my tires were recently replaced when we got the PC and I have >perused the archives for this list and have determined that I should get >about 10,000 miles on Dunlop or Metzler. I am thinking I will arrange >to get new tires in Utah, which will give me close to 7 or 8 thousand >miles not counting what I might get between now and July. Anyone have >any advice? Does this sound about right? Oh, and....I think I'll carry >a stator along too. > >Debi Ratliff >Goshen,VA >89 PC 800 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Ron Kimball" , Subject: Re: PC800: Dipstick Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:12:21 -0400 About a half inch. I wouldn't worry about the missing tip, but I would replace the stick. Good luck Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: PC800: Dipstick >Checked my oil yesterday, how long is the "crosshatched" part on the dipstick >supposed to be? Mine seems short at about an eighth of an inch, too short to >check. Makes one wonder where the rest went to. :-( > >Happy Trails, >Ron >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gcastle@mail.neptune.on.ca To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: stator installation Date: Tue, 9 May 100 22:37:21 +0000 Hi all,, Has anyone ever removed and installed a stator on a PC? Mine has "expired" and I'm going to have it rebuilt but I must first remove it from the bike. Anyone have any hints,tricks,cautions..etc. Do I need to replace any seals after I remove it? Any special tools needed?...or should I reallly have a mechanic do this for me? Thanks for any info!! Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:16:02 -0800 Tod, You are using Harley terms to describe non-Harley geometries. I believe that in Harley-speak, a hardtail frame contained no swingarm and therefore no rear shocks. The seats were sprung on some of the older hardtail models, and no "rear" suspension on other models. The softail frame contained a swingarm and rear shocks, usually 2, or in the case of the Buell's, a mono shock. At least that is what I read in the magazines, not having owned a Harley, but have ridden a few. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Todd M. Paxman > Reply To: Todd M. Paxman > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:57 PM > To: Russ Goff; PC800 List > Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 > > I apologize. I thought having twin shocks made a bike a "hardtail" and a > central monoshock made it a "softtail." > > Regardless, the CX500 and the GL500 (and the 650 counterparts) are greatly > different bikes. Different seating positions, suspension, handlebar > height/angle/style, and on and on and on. Saying you used to have a CX so > you know what's so great about the GL, or vice versa, is simply not a valid > comparison. They had about as much in common as the PC800 and the Shadow 800 > VLX--they share basically the same engine, but that's it. Now I don't know > the technical issues of all shared parts; maybe they had similar wheels, > transmission, etc., I don't know. But they are definitely not the same bike, > and they definitely do not "feel" the same under you. And besides, as Russ > pointed out, there are great differences even within the CX lineup. Since > the SilverWing was only produced for a few years (2-3?), they are more > similar than different, other than bodywork, among the different models. > ________________________ > Todd M. Paxman > Ashworth Leininger Group > 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 > Thousand Oaks, CA > PH: (805) 370-1474 > FX: (805) 370-1471 > tpaxman@algcorp.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Goff" > To: "Todd M. Paxman" ; "PC800 List" > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 > > > > CX500A / B has a bigger rear wheel than the GL / custom. CX is NOT hard > > tail. As and Bs have a conventional swing arm with twin shocks. Eurosport > > models have a completely different frame and single shock. Front forks are > > different as are the wheels, in fact there are so many different CX models > > that virtually every thing changed from first to last. > > > > Russ > > Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1 > > '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" Landrover Discovery V8i "un-named" > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:16:02 -0800 Tod, You are using Harley terms to describe non-Harley geometries. I believe that in Harley-speak, a hardtail frame contained no swingarm and therefore no rear shocks. The seats were sprung on some of the older hardtail models, and no "rear" suspension on other models. The softail frame contained a swingarm and rear shocks, usually 2, or in the case of the Buell's, a mono shock. At least that is what I read in the magazines, not having owned a Harley, but have ridden a few. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Todd M. Paxman > Reply To: Todd M. Paxman > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:57 PM > To: Russ Goff; PC800 List > Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 > > I apologize. I thought having twin shocks made a bike a "hardtail" and a > central monoshock made it a "softtail." > > Regardless, the CX500 and the GL500 (and the 650 counterparts) are greatly > different bikes. Different seating positions, suspension, handlebar > height/angle/style, and on and on and on. Saying you used to have a CX so > you know what's so great about the GL, or vice versa, is simply not a valid > comparison. They had about as much in common as the PC800 and the Shadow 800 > VLX--they share basically the same engine, but that's it. Now I don't know > the technical issues of all shared parts; maybe they had similar wheels, > transmission, etc., I don't know. But they are definitely not the same bike, > and they definitely do not "feel" the same under you. And besides, as Russ > pointed out, there are great differences even within the CX lineup. Since > the SilverWing was only produced for a few years (2-3?), they are more > similar than different, other than bodywork, among the different models. > ________________________ > Todd M. Paxman > Ashworth Leininger Group > 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 > Thousand Oaks, CA > PH: (805) 370-1474 > FX: (805) 370-1471 > tpaxman@algcorp.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Goff" > To: "Todd M. Paxman" ; "PC800 List" > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 > > > > CX500A / B has a bigger rear wheel than the GL / custom. CX is NOT hard > > tail. As and Bs have a conventional swing arm with twin shocks. Eurosport > > models have a completely different frame and single shock. Front forks are > > different as are the wheels, in fact there are so many different CX models > > that virtually every thing changed from first to last. > > > > Russ > > Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1 > > '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" Landrover Discovery V8i "un-named" > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:42:33 -0300 From: Daniel MacKay To: gcastle@mail.neptune.on.ca Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: stator installation Mail-Followup-To: gcastle@mail.neptune.on.ca, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Greg: Pull up the maint/repair database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and do a search on "stator" .. you'll get a few notes on the topic I think. -dan > Hi all,, > Has anyone ever removed and installed a stator on a PC? Mine has "expired" and I'm going > to > have it rebuilt but I must first remove it from the bike. > Anyone have any hints,tricks,cautions..etc. Do I need to replace any seals after I remove it? Any > special > tools needed?...or should I reallly have a mechanic do this for me? > > Thanks for any info!! > > Greg Castle > Keswick,Ontario,Canada > 89 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BRussAZ@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:13:03 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways To: Thfwsf@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 5/9/00 5:11:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Thfwsf@aol.com writes: > In a message dated Mon, 8 May 2000 11:16:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mark > Gilb" writes: > > << I'll add my two cents worth to the carburetion equation. I ride a lot of > commuting on crowded (5 mph or less) Interstates and have found that the PC > will lug down to about 800 rpm in first. You can actually feel thepower > pulses at that speed. Great for the 1 mph creep. I have never had a problem > with low speed >> > > I also use my bike to commute to and from work and it performs flawlessly. > The power is more than adequate and at low RPM's it performs very well. I > just take it easy on the throttle when I accelerate from low rpms so I don't > lug the engine. My PC "Rover" has a Metzler ML2 on the front and the tire > handles the rain groves better than any tire I've ever had on a bike. I also > find I'm averaging about 50mpg even though I'm in stop and go traffic quite a > bit. > > Watch our for Canadian Geese... > > Tom Fraser Greetings listers, I am a year round commuter (in Phoenix) also and presently ride the ST1100. I am looking for a second bike to commute with and am considering the PC. Since 90% of my riding is commute (50/50 freeway/street) I am interested in the ability mentioned above..the "creep". The ST creeps fairly well but due to its weight, it can be cumbersome in the creep. Does anyone know how the gear ratios of the PC stack up against the ST? In other words, if I am happy with the ST creep, will I be more/less happy with the PC? Also, is the seat height lower on the PC (relative to the ST)? thanx in advance for your inputs! cheers, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Ron Kimball" , Subject: Re: PC800: Dipstick Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:41:57 -0700 I would guess the busted end, if it ended up in the crankcase, went out with an oil change. All this talk about dipsticks and changing oil (centerstand vs. sidestand) and no one has mentioned that one must just thrust the stick in, not thread it in, to get an indication. A friend's 700SC launched a rod through the case because his son screwed the dipstick in to check the oil, and it said there was enough, and indeed there was not. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con non Launcho" > Checked my oil yesterday, how long is the "crosshatched" part on the dipstick > supposed to be? Mine seems short at about an eighth of an inch, too short to > check. Makes one wonder where the rest went to. :-( > > Happy Trails, > Ron > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: marathon rides for charity--not PC Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:02:43 -0700 A recent post from Carol Yourski ("Skert") left me thinking. I enjoy giving to causes I support, as I can. My wife does the Relay for Life each year in the interest of cancer research. She is a cancer survivor. A local organization has an annual fundraiser for scholarships for women. I donate something from my shop for that. I contribute likewise something for the annual Hospice auction. All of these causes are significant to me, and I would consider contributing also to support breast cancer research. My mother has an obscure terminal disease and recently a motorcyclist did a marathon ride to raise money for research to find a cure. I did not support it. I am not comfortable tagging a contribution onto a marathon motorcycle ride, and here is why: Riding 5000 miles in 5 days puts others at needless risk in my view. I am not a long rider. 400 a day is plenty for me, and I know at the end of that I am not the alert rider I am when I start out. I enjoy the tales from Will and Chuck and Tim and Scuffy. It seems to me they are not out to prove anything, they are just riding long. If I collected donations to ride long, I would push myself beyond safe limits in an effort to justify the support I had solicited and received. Now suppose that I did that, and after many long days in the saddle, got in a traffic situation where I just wasn't on top of things like I should be. And suppose you were the oncoming driver, yes, in a four wheeled vehicle, and I drifted over the line or made a bad passing judgment and we collided. I am dead, let's say, and that is that. I took on more than I should have. But my bad judgment has left your life changed in a way that you had no control over. Now: Per our usual honesty and clarity, I welcome your responses. Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo con Brio" 60 Cushman Eagle 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:20:52 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Y2K ride... Hi everyone... I've been thinking about the Y2K ride, and planning ahead a little so I don't forget anything. While planning, I realized that I will be away from home for several weeks, and that it might get *lonely* on the road, so I figured I better come up with a solution. Have a look at http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/y2k.jpg and see me practicing my test run for the Y2K ride.... If anyone else is interested, let me know.. fsl ;-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: "Francois Saint Laurent" , Subject: RE: PC800: Y2K ride... Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:00:55 -0400 Importance: Normal Francois; Would you really share this beautiful creature with the others on the ride? Elton K. Hammond 1997 PC800 Ottawa, Canada (613) 822-1926 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu] On Behalf Of Francois Saint Laurent Sent: May 9, 2000 9:21 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Y2K ride... Hi everyone... I've been thinking about the Y2K ride, and planning ahead a little so I don't forget anything. While planning, I realized that I will be away from home for several weeks, and that it might get *lonely* on the road, so I figured I better come up with a solution. Have a look at http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/y2k.jpg and see me practicing my test run for the Y2K ride.... If anyone else is interested, let me know.. fsl ;-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: Unobtanium Vest so Hot It's Cool! To: Pacific Coast List Posting Hello all, just got back from a trial run using the newly installed vest. It was about 51 degrees and the sun was almost down. I was toasty warm with the vest and a light fleece pullover over it, and my "Stich Darien Jacket on top. Amazing. Not even chilly! I am sure the plus three clearview had something to do with it too! :) I am confident I can ride with lower temps than that with the heavier fleece jacket that comes with the Darien. I guess I will have to wait for a day in the forties or lower to try! I posted a few questions lateley too, any answers? 1. how do I get a scratchy/smudge off my clearview after a driveway tipover? 2. What can I do about black plastic exposed on the mirrors after aforementioned tipover? 3. What is status of Honda Radio since I now have the clearview and might actually be able to hear something? To Summarize... electric vests are cool! Paul in Wisconsin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 9 May 2000 21:48:00 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:29:39 -0600 From: M&S To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Help, Buzzing Noise in PC My PC has a strange buzzing noise that is heard (and even lightly felt) somewhere in the 15-18 mph range ONLY....most noticeable on deceleration or slowing to a stop. It is NOT related to engine RPM at all, and NOT a body panel vibration, but appears to be driveline oriented. Clutch in or out makes no difference ! Brakes off or on make no difference ! I'm stumped here.......has anyone had a similar experience, or can give me a hint on what else to look for ? Please email me directly at mwwagner@sk.sympatico.ca Thanks, Murray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:17:13 EDT Subject: Fwd: PC800: Help, Buzzing Noise in PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu << In a message dated 5/9/00 9:48:43 PM Central Daylight Time, wagg01@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << My PC has a strange buzzing noise >> Although you seem certain this is a machinery noise, I would check the fuel cover as well as the two fairing pocket lids.I suppose these are not technically body panels anyway! The fuel cover is the most likely culprit. The sound can bounce off of the windshield and play tricks with your ears, especially if there is a taller aftermarket shield installed. Just press on each cover during your described "conditions of noise" until you eliminate the sound. Alan in Houston 89' Rifle +2 Vista Cruise Tour Master tankbag Utopia Driver's backrest Hondaline passenger backrest Dunlop K555's Mobil 1 15w-50 Cycle Mate CM 2000 trailer Hitch Doc hitch GenMar risers - ahhhh! >> Return-path: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Full-name: Ahall77379 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:14:07 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Help, Buzzing Noise in PC To: wagg01@REMOVETHISsk.sympatico.ca In a message dated 5/9/00 9:48:43 PM Central Daylight Time, wagg01@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << My PC has a strange buzzing noise >> Although you seem certain this is a machinery noise, I would check the fuel cover as well as the two fairing pocket lids.I suppose these are not technically body panels anyway! The fuel cover is the most likely culprit. The sound can bounce off of the windshield and play tricks with your ears, especially if there is a taller aftermarket shield installed. Just press on each cover during your described "conditions of noise" until you eliminate the sound. Alan in Houston 89' Rifle +2 Vista Cruise Tour Master tankbag Utopia Driver's backrest Hondaline passenger backrest Dunlop K555's Mobil 1 15w-50 Cycle Mate CM 2000 trailer Hitch Doc hitch GenMar risers - ahhhh! Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 03:04:12 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Unobtanium Vest so Hot It's Cool! To: patkins99@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu paul, I am glad you had a chance to try out the new vest! I see chilly nights and mornings ahead this week. I will have "Poseidon" out tomorrow morning at 6:00am (Brrr!) I had a nice visit with you last Friday! I love your Clearview!! I am ordering my Metzelers (ME 880's) this week. I think a clearview +3 is next on the list. Thanks to all who helped me find the Metzelers at a more reasonable price! 'til next time... Todd Skar '89PC 12k "Poseidon" Green Bay, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: Re: PC800: marathon rides for charity--not PC To: Lee Barker , pc800@hpc.uh.edu --- Lee Barker wrote: > A recent post from Carol Yourski ("Skert") left me > thinking. ...... > Riding 5000 miles in 5 days puts others at needless > risk in my view. ...... > I enjoy the tales from Will and Chuck and Tim and > Scuffy. It seems to me they are not out to prove anything, they are just riding long. ...... Lee: I agree with you 100%. When I was a teenager, I used to mountain climb because it was a sport where you just had to face your own limitations. If you were too scared to take the next step, there was nobody there to boo at you, and if you did take it, nobody was there to cheer, so, in a sense, it was not about climbing mountains, it was about learning about yourself. Now, when I see indoor climbing gyms and competitions about who can climb faster and better, I can't help but shake my head. It's just a different thing. In a way, (for me), motorcycles share some of those qualities of mountain climbing. When you ride a bike you also have the opportunity to be in touch with yourself, and you are on your own and in control of your own performance. Even when you ride with others, they are just a distant presence and you remain in charge of your environment and your ride. Motorcycles allow you to be "present" and part of "it", rather than being removed and isolated as when you drive a car. When you are expected to do 5,000 miles in five days, or 11,000 in eleven as part as an organized event, it seems to me that what you are really trying to do is prove to others that you can qualify to belong to that group, so, in a sense, it's not really about riding motorcycles, it's about paying the price of admission to the club, and as Groucho Marx should have said: "You should not belong to the kind of club that will take you as a member". You may ride on your own the same distances and be safe, but if you are pushing yourself beyond your limits because you are affraid of being disqualified, you can't stay being "present" and you are putting yourself and others at risk. That is not right. Just my opinion. Ride long and prosper. Jesus Soriano San Diego, California '95 PC "Raquel" '79 CX500 "Josephine" (dormant) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.namezero.com with SMTP; 10 May 2000 02:12:43 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 11:08:43 +0200 >----- Original Message ----- >From: >I am a year round commuter (in Phoenix) also and presently ride the ST1100. >I am looking for a second bike to commute with and am considering the PC. >Does anyone know how the gear ratios of the PC stack up against the ST? >In other words, if I am happy with the ST creep, will I be more/less happy with the PC? >Also, is the seat height lower on the PC (relative to the ST)? >cheers, Bill Bill, I've had a PC for 2 years and "upgraded" to a ST last year (let the flames begin ! ; )). The PC is very maneuvrable and able to ride very slow very easy, this is also because of it's seating position which is indeed a lot lower than on the ST. The handlebars are also considerably higher. This gives it a seating condition similar as allroad bikes (transalp, africa twin, varadero) with the difference that you're very close to the ground. The wide and high handlebars and extremely low center of gravity make it very easy to creep and also to sneak between all the cars, trucks and bicycles in the city. I like the ST seating position a lot more, but for slow speed riding the PC is easier. I'm actually able to do the exact same things at slow speed on the ST, it only takes just a little more effort. Considering gear ratios... well, the PC makes 5000 RPM @ 75mph, the ST 3800 RPM.... at slow speed it's pretty much the same. As a twin the PC has all it's torque from the beginning on, the ST's torque starts coming alive at a higher RPM because it's a 4 cilinder... but there's not that much difference at slow speed since the ST's max torque is double that of the PC (62Nm vs 110 Nm on the ST). The PC is, like the ST, a perfect commute bike. The PC is nicer in the city, the ST is nicer on the freeway but they're not that much apart. You'll love the trunk.... Emile '92 ST1100 Pan European ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://piloot.com http://go.to/pc800 http://st1100.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Peter Noeth" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:55:23 -0400 You're correct Peter, I owned a '47 Harley FL. It was a hardtail. The rear shocks were the seat springs and if you rode 2 up there were an extra set of springs that snapped to the seat for a little more support. Terrible ride! I bought it for $550 and sold it for $1200. I wonder what it's worth today!? :-) Mike Whited -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: 'PC800 List' Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:07 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 >Tod, > > You are using Harley terms to describe non-Harley geometries. I believe that >in Harley-speak, a hardtail frame contained no swingarm and therefore no rear >shocks. The seats were sprung on some of the older hardtail models, and no >"rear" suspension on other models. The softail frame contained a swingarm and >rear shocks, usually 2, or in the case of the Buell's, a mono shock. > > At least that is what I read in the magazines, not having owned a Harley, but >have ridden a few. > >Regards, > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech >Quantum trailer. > > >> ---------- >> From: Todd M. Paxman >> Reply To: Todd M. Paxman >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:57 PM >> To: Russ Goff; PC800 List >> Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 >> >> I apologize. I thought having twin shocks made a bike a "hardtail" and a >> central monoshock made it a "softtail." >> >> Regardless, the CX500 and the GL500 (and the 650 counterparts) are greatly >> different bikes. Different seating positions, suspension, handlebar >> height/angle/style, and on and on and on. Saying you used to have a CX so >> you know what's so great about the GL, or vice versa, is simply not a valid >> comparison. They had about as much in common as the PC800 and the Shadow 800 >> VLX--they share basically the same engine, but that's it. Now I don't know >> the technical issues of all shared parts; maybe they had similar wheels, >> transmission, etc., I don't know. But they are definitely not the same bike, >> and they definitely do not "feel" the same under you. And besides, as Russ >> pointed out, there are great differences even within the CX lineup. Since >> the SilverWing was only produced for a few years (2-3?), they are more >> similar than different, other than bodywork, among the different models. >> ________________________ >> Todd M. Paxman >> Ashworth Leininger Group >> 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 >> Thousand Oaks, CA >> PH: (805) 370-1474 >> FX: (805) 370-1471 >> tpaxman@algcorp.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russ Goff" >> To: "Todd M. Paxman" ; "PC800 List" >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:29 PM >> Subject: Re: PC800: Both PC800 and CX500 >> >> >> > CX500A / B has a bigger rear wheel than the GL / custom. CX is NOT hard >> > tail. As and Bs have a conventional swing arm with twin shocks. Eurosport >> > models have a completely different frame and single shock. Front forks are >> > different as are the wheels, in fact there are so many different CX models >> > that virtually every thing changed from first to last. >> > >> > Russ >> > Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1 >> > '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" Landrover Discovery V8i "un-named" >> > >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 10 May 2000 03:57:17 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Y2K ride... Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 05:57:14 -0500 I always knew ewe were full of sheep. --Ralph ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Francois Saint Laurent" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: PC800: Y2K ride... > > Hi everyone... > > I've been thinking about the Y2K ride, and planning ahead a little so > I don't forget anything. While planning, I realized that I will be > away from home for several weeks, and that it might get *lonely* on > the road, so I figured I better come up with a solution. > > Have a look at http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/y2k.jpg and see me practicing > my test run for the Y2K ride.... > > If anyone else is interested, let me know.. > > fsl ;-) > > -- > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:57:07 -0400 From: "Chris " To: , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BRussAZ@aol.com >I am a year round commuter (in Phoenix) also and presently ride the ST1100. >I am looking for a second bike to commute with and am considering the PC. >Since 90% of my riding is commute (50/50 freeway/street) I am interested in >the ability mentioned above..the "creep". The ST creeps fairly well but due >to its weight, it can be cumbersome in the creep. Does anyone know how the >gear ratios of the PC stack up against the ST? The PC is much, much better for the slow parts of commuting, including the dreaded "creep". I have both the ST and the PC, and love them both. But the PC is better for commuting because of lower (higher numerical) gear ratios, less weight, lighter handling, and that wonderful trunk. best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 07:07:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: marathon rides for charity--not PC Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:07:09 -0500 Hi Lee and the rest of you too. My polite response, YOU ARE FULL OF ____. (fill in the blank) Just kidding! I don't in any way hope to change your mind, but I do want you to know that you are right. Too many miles for YOU is too many. Too many for the next guy is not going to be the same number of miles. I rode my BMW to Daytona for bike week a couple of months ago. 857 miles. Left at 2 AM, sat for 4 hours at a dealer in Miss. waiting on my buddies bike to be repaired and finally arrived in Daytona at about 10:30 PM. Sat around the campfire till about 1AM and never felt "out of control" or "impaired". There were a few "impaired" around the camp fire, but they staggered to their tent before they fell down. :-) I know a lot of the folks that ride the Iron Butt Rally and other Long Distance rides and can tell you that it is an acquired skill. They don't just hop on their first scooter and go ride 1000 miles a day for 11 days. You can trust me when I say, these folks are not all kooks. OK one or two are but that is true about any group. They spend MANY hours and MANY dollars getting their bikes and themselves equipped for the kind of riding they do. They are some of the most safety conscious and safe riding riders I have ever met. You just have to know them. Pretty cool bunch. All the above is just my opinion. You asked for it. I still love ya man. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" > A recent post from Carol Yourski ("Skert") left me thinking. > > > I am not comfortable tagging a contribution onto a marathon motorcycle > ride, and here is why: > > Now: Per our usual honesty and clarity, I welcome your responses. > > > Lee Barker -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:11:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: New PC: Air filter "Nick Wright" writes: > I forgot to mention that the original owner put a K&N air filter in > the PC. Has anyone had any issues with them? I've been running a K&N filter for about 9 months. When fresh, gas mileage is definitely better; I have seen as high as 60 mpg on the highway and 49 mpg around town. It loads up fairly quickly, dropping mileage back to the same range as I get from the stock filter; 47/40 mpg. Based on this experience, I will probably clean the filter at 3000 mile intervals. To clean, I use Dawn detergent and warm water in an old baking pan. Soak for 30 minutes, swish around, then rinse with copious amounts of clean water. Let dry, then spray with K&N oil. It's more maintenance than Honda's pleated paper units, but I'm not shelling out $40 each time I do filter maintenance. I have had absolutely no drivability problems; in fact, my idle mix screws are turned in 1/4 turn from the stock settings to lean things out a bit. Engine starts instantly, and goes off the choke within 100 yards of leaving the house, even on cold mornings. Note, however, that I live about 1200 feet above sea level, and virtually all of my riding is between 1200 and 4000 feet altitude. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ====================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: Re: PC800: Y2K ride... To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu That's baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.... > > Have a look at http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/y2k.jpg and > see me practicing > my test run for the Y2K ride.... > ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - 98PC800 (unnamed,now leaning Red October and Nebuchadnezzar(sp?) ------------------------------------------------------- --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright -- Value: Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. - Warren Buffet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Help, Buzzing Noise in PC To: PC800 What gear are you in? --- M&S wrote: > My PC has a strange buzzing noise that is heard (and > even lightly felt) > somewhere in the 15-18 mph range ONLY....most > noticeable on deceleration > or slowing to a stop. > It is NOT related to engine RPM at all, and NOT a > body panel > vibration, but appears to be driveline oriented. > Clutch in or out > makes no difference ! Brakes off or on make no > difference ! > I'm stumped here.......has anyone had a similar > experience, or can give > me a hint on what else to look for ? > > Please email me directly at mwwagner@sk.sympatico.ca > > Thanks, > Murray ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:19:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: marathon rides for charity--not PC To: Lee Barker Cc: PC800 Three words: "Ride your ride" ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Y2K ride... Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:49:16 -0700 Let me know what roads your taking, so I can avoid them. Which one of you has an endorsement anyway? Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent >Have a look at http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/y2k.jpg and see me practicing >my test run for the Y2K ride.... > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth" To: "pc800 mailinglist" Subject: PC800: non PC: Signal relays Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:50:03 -0400 Can a signal relay on a Honda motorcycle be replaced with an automotive = relay? $37 for a relay is just to much. I am working on a 1983 650 night hawk. Kenneth Winter East TN 1990 PC Second Chance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:33:46 -0600 From: jay loew To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Greetings, My instructors at the MSF course strongly recommended that I consider the PC 800. I've done some initial research, and that leaves me with two outstanding questions that I would like to pose to this alias. 1) Will the PC 800 have sufficient power? I live in CO, and you can't go very far without some serious climbing. I need something that has power to make it up over those long stretches of uphill that are unavoidable as I head west. 2) Will the PC 800 be sufficiently comfortable on the longer hauls? My business and family have me on the road more than most, and I need something that will go the distance. That is why I am not looking at the pure sport bikes--I don't want to pull over for rest and stretching exercises every half hour! I do appreciate those sport bikes, have nothing against them, but do not see them meeting my needs in a motorcycle. I am not on this alias currently so please reply to me directly. Thank you, --Allen =================================================== Allen Loew PLC-IMS Development Team FSTool Development Team allen.loew@central.sun.com Inside Extension: 78037 Outside Direct Dial: 303-272-8037 http://seadog.central/document/common/html/documentation_index.html http://paoli.central/home =================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ; id KAA22482229 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: "jay loew" Cc: "PC800" , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:30:08 -0500 My SO has a PC and I have put a few miles on it myself. It is very comfortable at long distances and has adequate power. I am not sure how it would do on the hills of CO however. It is definitely geared lower than normal putting the RPMs at a healthy 5k at 75 mph. The trunk is huge and will carry two large full face helmets with some room to spare. This thing will haul two up with no problem also. The only things I don't like are the low seat height, I'm 6', and the soft front suspension. The soft front makes for pretty damn smooth highway driving, but seems to be a little scary when tackling corners aggressively. OTOH, I ride an ST1100. This baby has power and will haul anywhere you need at twice the legal speed with ease. It has two bags that will hold 2 medium full face helmets. You can also add an aftermarket top box for even more room. It is taller and heavier than the PC, but once you get it rolling that weight disappears. Oh YEA...you can hit corners like you were on a sport bike. I LOVE MY ST. For more info, check out the URL that is below my sig. Here's the deal. If you are going to do a lot of daily high traffic commuting and haul groceries around, then I suggest the PC. If you are doing a lot of open road across the mountain type of commuting then I suggest the ST. If money is of concern, the PC is cheaper than the ST. If aftermarket options are of a concern, the ST has a lot more. If reliability is a concern, well, they are both capable of 100K plus mileage. Of course, there will be a lot of different opinions. I suggest you ride both for as long as you can and make up your own mind. Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jay loew" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Greetings, My instructors at the MSF course strongly recommended that I consider the PC 800. I've done some initial research, and that leaves me with two outstanding questions that I would like to pose to this alias. 1) Will the PC 800 have sufficient power? I live in CO, and you can't go very far without some serious climbing. I need something that has power to make it up over those long stretches of uphill that are unavoidable as I head west. 2) Will the PC 800 be sufficiently comfortable on the longer hauls? My business and family have me on the road more than most, and I need something that will go the distance. That is why I am not looking at the pure sport bikes--I don't want to pull over for rest and stretching exercises every half hour! I do appreciate those sport bikes, have nothing against them, but do not see them meeting my needs in a motorcycle. I am not on this alias currently so please reply to me directly. Thank you, --Allen =================================================== Allen Loew PLC-IMS Development Team FSTool Development Team allen.loew@central.sun.com Inside Extension: 78037 Outside Direct Dial: 303-272-8037 http://seadog.central/document/common/html/documentation_index.html http://paoli.central/home =================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DWilli5342@aol.com for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 11:40:02 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Y2K Ride....Francois To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Alas...... ......there'll never be another "ewe"! Dean Williams Springfield, OR 98 PC800 "Nata Harli" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:06:59 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BRussAZ@aol.com I am a year round commuter (in Phoenix) also and presently ride the ST1100. I am looking for a second bike to commute with and am considering the PC. Since 90% of my riding is commute (50/50 freeway/street) I am interested in the ability mentioned above..the "creep". The ST creeps fairly well but due to its weight, it can be cumbersome in the creep. Does anyone know how the gear ratios of the PC stack up against the ST? In other words, if I am happy with the ST creep, will I be more/less happy with the PC? Also, is the seat height lower on the PC (relative to the ST)? Since I now "go both ways" (leave it along, smartasses!) I can state with authority that the PC is FAR better in traffic situations. The ST is fine, but since I'm slightly inseam-challenged (the seat is about 1.5" too high for me) its more of a pain to "creep". With the power that's available (and different gearing) the ST doesn't like creeping very much. But the PC is just fine, thank you. The seat height allows me to creep forward with both feet on the ground, and it doesn't fight me as much at low rpm's. I can relax more at long lights, too. The Stealth will remain my bike of choice to commute on. She's very happy with that decision, too. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (113K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 10 May 2000 18:45:41 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:45:38 +0200 > From: Tim Macy[SMTP:timbmacy@hotmail.com] > Since I now "go both ways" (leave it along, smartasses!) I can state with > authority that the PC is FAR better in traffic situations. The ST is fine, > > but since I'm slightly inseam-challenged (the seat is about 1.5" too high > for me) its more of a pain to "creep". > Hmm.. that might indeed make a lot of difference for "creeping". I might have added in my previous comment that I'm 6'3", all body parts are long enough ; ) Emile http://st1100.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: New grips needed! Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:44:33 -0500 Anyone here have any suggestions for replacing the stock grips on the PC? I am looking for foam grips. Please reply with manu, model, and where you got them. Thanks, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thfwsf@aol.com for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 14:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:03:20 EDT Subject: PC800: Extra parts?? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi, all!! As you are aware, the "red rover" and I had the unfortunate run in with the suicidal Canadian goose. As a result, damage was done to some of the "body". I was hoping that, perhaps, someone may have a few of these parts that they may be willing to sell. The list is: left Cowling, Left lower side, left lower trunk and left trunk protector. Hope to hear from someone soon!! Tom & "red rover" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 14:33:53 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: non PC: Signal relays Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:49:50 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Kenneth Can a signal relay on a Honda motorcycle be replaced with an automotive relay? $37 for a relay is just to much. I am working on a 1983 650 night hawk. Kenneth Winter It may work fine. It may even work when one of the turn signal lamps is blown. the honda flasher comes on continous if one of the turn signals is blown and that lets you know theres a problem. other then that, I can see no reason why you couldn't use one. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 14:33:57 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: marathon rides for charity--not PC Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:25:29 -0400 **much sniped** > I enjoy giving to causes I support, as I can. > > I am not comfortable tagging a contribution onto a marathon motorcycle > ride, and here is why: > > Riding 5000 miles in 5 days puts others at needless risk in my view. are not out to prove anything, they are just riding long. > > If I collected donations to ride long, I would push myself beyond safe > limits in an effort to justify the support I had solicited and received. > > But my bad judgment has left your life changed in a way that you had no > control over. > > Now: Per our usual honesty and clarity, I welcome your responses. > Lee Barker Some people jump out of perfectly good airplanes for a cause. If it's beyond your ability to ride the distance ,then don't do it. thats all there is to it! Ride Your Ride > Riding 5000 miles in 5 days puts others at needless risk in my view. >are not out to prove anything, they are just riding long. If you feel a marathon ride is the wrong kind of event for a charity then it's time to contact that charity and tell them why. But, there are some who are able and or willing to take on that kind of a challenge and if they want to do it for there cause, then thats there business. Organizations often attach themselfs to sporting events to raise money if for no other reason because it works. One, They get to attach there name to a winning team or hero and everyone likes a winner. Two, It gives people a reason to dig deep and contribute to a cause that they would normaly pass buy. I think It's a wonderful way to earn money for a cause if for two reasons. It's not a TAX and the goverment's not involved so theres no gun pointed at you. 'Protous, prepair to get underway, I'm a go'in riding' Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:27:58 -0400 To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 6:45 PM +0200 5/10/00, Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK wrote: > I might have added in my previous comment that I'm 6'3", all body >parts are long enough ; ) *all* of them??? Do you want to borrow my sheep to ride with? :-)))) fsl -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Beau Williams To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC -> ST??? Gang... ...every time someone includes a reference to the ST 1100 in an e-mail, a specific confusion comes to my mind, and I'll go crazy if I don't ask this question to settle it once and for all. When I first contemplated purchasing a PC back in 1990, I seem to remember that there were two versions a PC800 and a PC1100 (or, at least, that Honda was considering an 1100 version due to the feedback it was getting on the 800). However, I see no mention of PC1100s anywhere. Did the PC1100 evolve into the ST100? Or am I just as looney as my wife claims I am? ...Darth Beau "Why isn't the word 'phonics' spelled the way it sounds?" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC -> ST??? Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:46:06 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC -> ST??? Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:09:47 -0400 (EDT) > Did the PC1100 evolve into the ST100? Or am I just as looney as my wife claims I am? Well, Darth, I think that the prevailing wisdom on the list is probably leaning toward your wife's perception of the situation! And (at least I was told this by a Honda dealer) that's pretty much what happened. The PC carved its own niche quickly enough (especially in Europe) that the initial consideration of a larger cc PC was morphed into the ST...or Pan European. Remember--the 800cc engine came from a cruiser that was taken off the market in 1988--and the original consideration to continue building an 800cc cruiser and put out a big-brother 1100cc cruiser was scrapped. Funny how things go full circle, eh? Of course, considering my sources...feel free to contradict me if necessary...! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR Stealthmobile - '94 Honda PC800 (112K) STealthmobile II - '99 Honda ST1100 ABS-II (1K) AMA #492485 HRCA #239441 HSTA #6030 RCMC STOC #1571 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.” - Former Vice President Dan Quayle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 22:02:34 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:03:57 -0700 From: Bob Coffman To: Larry Johnson CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: New grips needed! --------------15364E0AAA96E0187AE58264 Hi Larry, It's funny you should ask! I just changed my grips this past weekend and was thinking of starting a thread on the subject. I was only intending to install a vista cruise lock, and afterward found the length of the stock grip, binding, because it was now too long. I had already thought about putting some grips from a BMW K 75 RT on, and knew they were a little shorter. They are appealling to me because they are elliptical and fit the contour of your palm. Voila! I installed them, after the easy removal of the bar end weights and grips. After I slid them on, I noticed how attractive they looked, as the ends are sealed. I decided to ride on Sunday (225 miles) to test them. If I sensed vibration, I could easily cut out the ends, and screw the bar weights back on. On the ride, not only did I noticed no enhanced vibration through the bars, but there seemed to be a slight improvement in manouverability. This could be psycosymatic, but there is less weigh out on the ends of the bars so responsiveness could be better. And finally, since I saved about 1.5 lbs in the change I felt I could now add the carbon fiber license plate frame I've been coveting! Don't have to deny myself those stops at the Dairy Queen in order to have less sprung weight!! Bob '96 PC "Drastic Plastic" Larry Johnson wrote: > > Anyone here have any suggestions for replacing the stock grips on the PC? I > am looking for foam grips. Please reply with manu, model, and where you got > them. > > Thanks, > Larry Johnson, Irving, TX > STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 > 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" > 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's > The only site! http://www.st1100.org > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --------------15364E0AAA96E0187AE58264 Content-Description: Card for "bcoffman@uswest.net" begin: vcard fn: "bcoffman@uswest.net" n: ;"bcoffman@uswest.net" email;internet: bcoffman@uswest.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------15364E0AAA96E0187AE58264-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:38:42 -0700 Tim, Sounds to me like your just trying to please two jealous women who must share the same garage. It appears you are doing a fine job of it. But I thought bigamy was illegal in Oregon... ;-) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy >Since I now "go both ways" (leave it along, smartasses!) I can state with >authority that the PC is FAR better in traffic situations. The ST is fine, > >The Stealth will remain my bike of choice to commute on. She's very happy >with that decision, too. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:47:18 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways At 4:38 PM -0700 5/10/00, Will Edwards wrote: >But I thought bigamy was illegal in Oregon... ;-) > Yes.....'bigamy' is illegal but 'bikamy' is allowed, and even encouraged.... fsl :-) -- *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: greatned@cascade.quik.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: motorcycle book wanted Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:40:27 PDT >A friend is looking to buy a copy of the book, "How to Detail a >Motorcycle." Lee, Amazon or B & N not carry it ? I thought I saw this on the shelf at a Barnes and Noble in Tulsa. Des ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Will Edwards" , "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:28:41 -0700 > But I thought bigamy was illegal in Oregon... ;-) > > Will Not correct. Just something Utah'd. Lee Where's Couey when we need him? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" Subject: Re: PC800: Unobtanium Vest so Hot It's Cool! Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:16:23 -0500 1. You might see if your local shop stocks Novus products for the windshield. Novus makes two polishing compounds, 1 for heavy scratches and 1 for fine scratches. They also market a pump spray windshield cleaner that minimizes fine scratches. 2. Without starting the dreaded color thread again, it's obvious that you don't have the right color PC (black) ;-). Given that, you might try Color Rite for touch up paint or contcting Chuck Chiodini of this list for a repair / repaint. He is said to do excellent work. 3. The Hondaline radio is history. Several of us have successfully mounted aftermarket car stereos in the trunk. Sony is the favorite because you can get a wired remote control to mount up front to control radio operation.Gerard Diepeveen of the Pacific Coast Europe site has an excellent instructional page at http://www.cybercomm.nl/~pce/mod-sony.htm Although the radio model that he used is no longer available, the instructions should work with any of the current Sony radios that use the wired remote. Crutchfield has a huge catalog at http://www.crutchfield.com that has a complete listing of Sony cassette & CD stereos. Hope this helped Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paul Atkins" To: "Pacific Coast List Posting" Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: PC800: Unobtanium Vest so Hot It's Cool! > Hello all, > just got back from a trial run using the newly > installed vest. It was about 51 degrees and the sun > was almost down. I was toasty warm with the vest and a > light fleece pullover over it, and my "Stich Darien > Jacket on top. Amazing. Not even chilly! I am sure the > plus three clearview had something to do with it too! > :) > I am confident I can ride with lower temps than that > with the heavier fleece jacket that comes with the > Darien. I guess I will have to wait for a day in the > forties or lower to try! > I posted a few questions lateley too, any answers? > > 1. how do I get a scratchy/smudge off my clearview > after a driveway tipover? > 2. What can I do about black plastic exposed on the > mirrors after aforementioned tipover? > 3. What is status of Honda Radio since I now have the > clearview and might actually be able to hear > something? > > To Summarize... > electric vests are cool! > Paul in Wisconsin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Johnson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PC -> ST??? Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:20:11 -0500 You're as looney as your wife claims......LOL What you may be confusing is the fact that the two bikes came out the same year (1989) and they were usually marketed on the same brochure. Later, Larry Johnson Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 95' PC800 "Daisy" My SO's 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Beau Williams To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 3:09 PM Subject: PC800: PC -> ST??? > Gang... > > ...every time someone includes a reference to the ST 1100 in an e-mail, a > specific confusion comes to my mind, and I'll go crazy if I don't ask this > question to settle it once and for all. > > When I first contemplated purchasing a PC back in 1990, I seem to remember > that there were two versions a PC800 and a PC1100 (or, at least, that Honda > was considering an 1100 version due to the feedback it was getting on the > 800). > > However, I see no mention of PC1100s anywhere. > > Did the PC1100 evolve into the ST100? Or am I just as looney as my wife > claims I am? > > ...Darth Beau > "Why isn't the word 'phonics' spelled the way it sounds?" > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:21:05 -0500 I have no experience with the ST1100, other than a few sittings but the comments of Emile and Tim are spot on. The PC is easily maneuverable by almost anyone (I am on the small side) and is very easy to ride in traffic. The seat height is 1.5 inches lower, according to the specs I can recall and the weight is lower. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 Bill wrote .... > Greetings listers, > I am a year round commuter (in Phoenix) also and presently ride the ST1100. > I am looking for a second bike to commute with and am considering the PC. > Since 90% of my riding is commute (50/50 freeway/street) I am interested in > the ability mentioned above..the "creep". The ST creeps fairly well but due > to its weight, it can be cumbersome in the creep. Does anyone know how the > gear ratios of the PC stack up against the ST? In other words, if I am happy > with the ST creep, will I be more/less happy with the PC? > Also, is the seat height lower on the PC (relative to the ST)? > thanx in advance for your inputs! > > cheers, > Bill > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:27:04 -0500 The PC should be easily adaptable to higher altitudes, the service manual offers recommended carb mods. The answer to the power question will be a matter of taste & weight. If you are large and carry lots of stuff, the PC may seem relatively underwhelming. It will go the distance, as several of our listers have over 100,00 miles. You don't rack up that kind of mileage cruising Main Street. It is a very competent light tourer when its design limitations are considered. It wasn't designed to be a Wing or an ST. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jay loew" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net > Greetings, > > My instructors at the MSF course strongly > recommended that I consider the PC 800. I've > done some initial research, and that leaves > me with two outstanding questions that I > would like to pose to this alias. > > 1) Will the PC 800 have sufficient power? > I live in CO, and you can't go very far > without some serious climbing. I need > something that has power to make it up > over those long stretches of uphill that > are unavoidable as I head west. > > 2) Will the PC 800 be sufficiently > comfortable on the longer hauls? My > business and family have me on the > road more than most, and I need something > that will go the distance. That is why I am > not looking at the pure sport bikes--I > don't want to pull over for rest and > stretching exercises every half hour! > I do appreciate those sport bikes, > have nothing against them, but do not > see them meeting my needs in a motorcycle. > > I am not on this alias currently so please > reply to me directly. > > Thank you, > > --Allen > > =================================================== > Allen Loew > PLC-IMS Development Team > FSTool Development Team > > allen.loew@central.sun.com > > Inside Extension: 78037 > Outside Direct Dial: 303-272-8037 > > http://seadog.central/document/common/html/documentation_index.html > http://paoli.central/home > =================================================== > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:12:16 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Unobtanium Vest so Hot It's Cool! To: patkins99@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) patkins99@yahoo.com writes: >I posted a few questions lateley too, any answers? > >1. how do I get a scratchy/smudge off my clearview >after a driveway tipover? > >3. What is status of Honda Radio since I now have the >clearview and might actually be able to hear >something? > >To Summarize... >electric vests are cool! >Paul in Wisconsin 1. You might have to remove the windshield and have it lightly buffed by someone who works with acrylic plastic. I do my own (have not needed to do my Clearview yet but have done others) and all you need is a clean buffing wheel, medium speed buffer and some plastic buffing compound. I'm sure a plastics shop would do it for very little cost and it should take only a few minutes to be good as new. 3. As you have "heard" from others, the Hondaline radio is a thing of the past. You might want to check out the neat radio that CycleComm (www.cyclecomm.com) sells for $399. It's AM/FM/Weather with a full function remote. AJ Dobbs on the list has one on his PC800 and says it works well. Speakers or headset are extra. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Honda Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 02:16:12 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Subject: PC800: RE: Y2K ride... Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:18:25 -0500 Importance: Normal Francois, Why did you have to start another wool seat cover thread? Mp -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 10 May 2000 22:57:35 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Subject: PC800: A close call (long) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:10:10 -0500 To all, I rode today and while on a four lane highway with only one car on it I almost got killed. It was one of those areas that has a lot of businesses on it and a speed limit of 45 mph. I was in the left lane at about 40 accelerating away from a stop light and passing the car that was going about 25. Suddenly, he turned left in front of me. He was about 10 feet from me when he turned. My first reaction was brakes which it was way to late to have the time to stop, so I swerved right. This was when I heard something under me touch the pavement hard. A quick swerve to straighten up and head down the road and all was well. Well almost. The rush of adrenalin and fear made me think that it might be a good time to stop and check to see what had scraped the pavement. I could find no damage except on the center stand. What hits first in a situation like this? I have never asked my PC to do such an extreme maneuver before and I have to say that I am even more impressed with the abilities of this machine. My previous mount (Goldwing) would have certainly.......................Wow, I don't even want to consider. Happy to still be, Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) 90 PC (Red Hot) 95 'Wing --Still for sale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 10 May 2000 23:04:24 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Subject: PC800: duck tail Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:16:58 -0500 Sorry I lost the thread before I realized what the hump on the back of the PC is for. Originally Honda installed a subwoofer in that space. Too cool for Rap music. Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) his 90 PC (Red Hot) hers 95 Wing --still for sale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: "Larry Johnson" cc: "PC800" Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:22:09 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: New grips needed! Larry, I asked this list for replacement grip suggestions and ended up getting ProGrip 713's. I really like them so far - softer feel than stock and a slight contour in the middle. These are not foam, so maybe you're not interested. Anyway... I cut and pasted some info below from the link about the ProGrip grips. The only additional comments I have are: 1) I don't know how hard to find these are (maybe discontinued?) I notice Dennis Kirk catalog carries proGrip but I did not see this model number. and 2) When I mentioned the BX at the end of the model number, the guy at Honda East seemed confused, so I don't know if the BX matters or not. I think the 713 might be good enough. Brand: ProGrip Part#: PG713BX Descr: ProGrip 713 Black gel grips with open ends. I've only seen this particular model in one shop (Honda East, Bear, Delaware). These are about 1/8" longer than ProGrip superbike grips, and perhaps 1/16" shorter than the stock grips for the PC. Because the rubber is much softer, the left one can be stretched a little to meet up with the bar end weight, and the right one can be compressed so that's not too long with a Vista Cruise fitted. Ride safe, Joel Barlow Belle Mead, NJ '98 Pacific Coast - "Serendipity" HRCA: #465660 AMA: #319133 "Larry Johnson" on 05/10/2000 01:44:33 PM Please respond to "Larry Johnson" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800" cc: (bcc: Joel F. Barlow/Telcordia) Subject: PC800: New grips needed! Anyone here have any suggestions for replacing the stock grips on the PC? I am looking for foam grips. Please reply with manu, model, and where you got them. Thanks, Larry Johnson, Irving, TX STOC #1410, HSTA #9294, TMRA #34137 98' ST1100 "Vision QueST" 94' PC800 "Daisy"...my SO's The only site! http://www.st1100.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 10 May 2000 20:34:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Lee Barker" , "Will Edwards" , "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:34:49 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Will Edwards" ; "Tim Macy" ; Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: PC800: My new PC (long) creepin on the freeways > > > But I thought bigamy was illegal in Oregon... ;-) > > > > Will > > Not correct. Just something Utah'd. > > > Lee > > Where's Couey when we need him? > Right here in Columbia, Misery because I'm ill o'noise. Either he's here or 'e gone. Where? I da know. Someplace where he no have to pay no income Texas. Must be a merry land. If he's thirsty he can drink many sodas. Am I in a sad state, or what? --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 20:48:23 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: funny noise Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:48:22 -0500 Heard a funny noise tonight (no, not one of my puns). I had decided to adjust the fuel tank float tonight, so after work, I took the panels off, carefully removed the sensor panel and discovered I had chosen exactly the right moment to do this. The gas was right AT the lip of the sensor hole! (Seem to remember someone saying that was the one gallon level) I used a pair of needle nose and carefully bent the rod until the gauge needle rested between the red and white. Satisfied, I buttoned everything back up and decided to top off the tank. I moved the bike off the center stand onto the side stand and heard the most ungodly moan come from the PC. It was almost like the sound a woman makes when...well, never mind. Anyway, it was the first time I've ever heard my bike emit a sound of passion and I have to admit it WAS a little exciting. Anyway, have any of you heard this sound? From your PC, I mean. I hope this doesn't mean I need to buy a battery-powered spark plug igniter, or a latex piston enhancer, or scented air filters, or maybe an inflatable rider... --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.2-33 #38708) Wed, 10 May 2000 23:52:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:56:50 -0400 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: A close call (long) To: jeff wessel , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net On Wed, 10 May 2000 22:10:10 -0500, jeff wessel wrote: -->To all, -->I rode today and while on a four lane highway with only one car on it = I -->almost got killed.=20 _________________________________________________ Well, this story is, unfortunately, true. My forte in Law Enforcement, is accident reconstruction. I was called on Saturday, while off duty, by a neighboring small town PD, to aid their investigator with what was probably going to be a fatality, which happened on Friday. I have a regime, where I view the scene first, vehicles second, and then finally, get into the drivers, etc. I met him, viewed the scene of where a motorcyclist was going Northbound in the outside (next to turn/median) lane. Pickup was stopped in the turn lane (median), also Northbound. As the motorcyclist neared the location of the pickup, without the pickup signaling, it simply encroached into the path of the motorcyclist. Best witnesses...the investigator, and his Chief of Police, as they were following the motorcyclist, in his lane, a couple of car lengths behind. Absolutely no time for the motorcyclist to react, traffic was on his right (inside) lane..sideswipe, but traumatic, collision between the motorcyclist and pickup truck. Ok..got the info from the scene..we go to look at the motorcycle at the tow yard....WAIT a damn minute!!!! I know this Harley..is the operator George __________? Shit! He was just at my house on Wednesday, I gave him a pair of riding gloves for his birthday..this guy is a dear friend of mine of 12 years! Where is he..which hospital?? Off I go..telling the investigator that I am backing out of helping him..I have to go see my friend. My friend has one living relative, alky-diabetic brother who's last known address was Owenton KY. We could not find his whereabouts, even soliciting the aid of the Kentucky State Police, and the Owen County KY Sheriff's Dept. They initially thought that they may have to terminate life support, and wanted next of kin's permission........ George was in extremely grave condition..but has since been upgraded to serious but stable condition. =20 Injuries received: Crushed pelvis Compound fracture of the left tibia =46ractured left ankle ALL ribs broken..both the left and right side =46ractured radial (arm) =46ractured left wrist Both lungs punctured and collapsed =46ractured bones in his left hand Concussion (obviously) Take note..while George rode a Harley, he prized his open faced Bell helmet. =20 George is, in other words, pretty badly messed up..but he is alive..and doing better each day. He now will respond to stimuli, and small commands..such as squeeze my hand..etc. He is intubinated, and will be until his lungs/ribs heal. He is heavily sedated. Tonight I did get him to give me a "yes" nod, when I asked him if he was in pain, and the nurse present, gave him additional morphine, and he zonked totally out. The wife and I visit him daily...letting him know all is well with his home, and his pet dog, Matt (in the care of a mutual friend). And that he has been involved in an accident, is in the hospital, and he is getting better. We got a sly smile out of him tonight on a wise crack I made about a hunting trip we made to Colorado, Elk hunting (he was almost stampeded under by a herd of elk..and for a Southern boy, never been past the Mississippi, except that time..it is a source of humor between us.....which he smiled about...made me feel good). Damn long way to go yet, but at least my friend is alive, and we will be doing more together in the future. =20 This guy is my best friend. His Harley is totaled, but that is insignificant, compared to him almost losing his life. =20 Lessons learned; 1. ALWAYS carry some sort of emergency card in your possession, with numbers, and NAMES...my phone number/name was listed, in his wallet..but smudged so badly it was hard to read..make sure your important stuff is legible. 2. Friendship is forever, cherish your friends always. 3. And be careful..according to the investigator, there was NO chance for escape, as the pickup up driver...gave George no warning of their action. I am sure that George slowed down, knowing how he rides, and how careful he is. I am sure that something was going through his mind about what that pickup was going to do..when it did it..all too quickly for him to escape, or evade. It can happen. And finally...remember that motorcyclist ARE NOT SEEN...you need to exercise due care at ALL times. Remember you are invisible to all others. The young lady driver of the pickup, never saw the motorcycle (George) that she pulled in front of, by her own admission. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 10 May 2000 20:54:32 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: "John Fields" , "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Good News! Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:54:30 -0500 Oh Fraptious Joy! Oh Bejumious Glee! No more shall I fear the vorax of the Thongian Jorbinator! I shall sink peacefully into the klonform of the Guillage martok and spend my days sloaming the porgious Glormfak! (Got an "A" on my Senior thesis. Can you tell? 16 weeks, 32 pages, it's time to ride!!!!!!!!!!) Ralphreeatlast! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP Wed, 10 May 2000 21:04:55 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ralph Couey" To: , "jeff wessel" , Subject: Re: PC800: A close call (long) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:04:52 -0500 On Wed, 10 May 2000 22:10:10 -0500, jeff wessel wrote: -->To all, -->I rode today and while on a four lane highway with only one car on it I -->almost got killed. _________________________________________________ Well, this story is, unfortunately, true. George is, in other words, pretty badly messed up..but he is alive..and doing better each day. Damn long way to go yet, but at least my friend is alive, and we will be doing more together in the future. This guy is my best friend. His Harley is totaled, but that is insignificant, compared to him almost losing his life. Lessons learned; 1. ALWAYS carry some sort of emergency card in your possession, with numbers, and NAMES 2. Friendship is forever, cherish your friends always. 3. And be careful... And finally...remember that motorcyclist ARE NOT SEEN... Remember you are invisible to all others. Sobering thoughts; and points well taken. It seems we all get reminders like this. Two days ago outside Sedalia, a rider was killed when he rounded a curve on a county road and was cut in half by a tractor-towed spray rig. I've been paying very close attention these days. Cagers get spring fever and go blind on you. May your Supreme Being always ride your pillion. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 00:13:40 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Good News! Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:05:51 -0400 > Oh Fraptious Joy! Oh Bejumious Glee! No more shall I fear the vorax of the > Thongian Jorbinator! I shall sink peacefully into the klonform of the > Guillage martok and spend my days sloaming the porgious Glormfak! > (Got an "A" on my Senior thesis. Can you tell? 16 weeks, 32 pages, it's > time to ride!!!!!!!!!!) > Ralphreeatlast! For a instant, I thought you had a flat tire. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: A close call (long) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:54:11 -0700 You know, I don't know if this will ever make any difference or not, but when I ride on a 4 lane (or larger), I always try to make sure that the cars/trucks/vans that I am "running along with" at least see me ONE time. I usually will either slightly speed up or slow down, so that I at least enter (what I would consider to be) their "primary" field of vision at least once. Never sneak up on a cage... I never hang out in their blind spot, that bad, bad area which most all vehicles have. I would hope by at least entering their field of vision at least once, it would help assure that before they make a bone-headed move, that they think for a second "Now where the hell did that motorcycle go" and LOOK before changing lanes, turning, etc... I won't depend on it, but it sure can't hurt to let them SEE you and KNOW that you are NEAR... (Of course, this is where some of "those" types start saying that "Loud pipes" cause deafness... er I mean cause noise pollution... er I really mean, "save lives"...) :-) Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeff wessel To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: PC800: A close call (long) >To all, >I rode today and while on a four lane highway with only one car on it I >almost got killed. It was one of those areas that has a lot of businesses on >it and a speed limit of 45 mph. I was in the left lane at about 40 >accelerating away from a stop light and passing the car that was going about >25. Suddenly, he turned left in front of me. He was about 10 feet from me >when he turned. My first reaction was brakes which it was way to late to >have the time to stop, so I swerved right. This was when I heard something >under me touch the pavement hard. A quick swerve to straighten up and head >down the road and all was well. Well almost. The rush of adrenalin and fear >made me think that it might be a good time to stop and check to see what had >scraped the pavement. I could find no damage except on the center stand. >What hits first in a situation like this? I have never asked my PC to do >such an extreme maneuver before and I have to say that I am even more >impressed with the abilities of this machine. My previous mount (Goldwing) >would have certainly.......................Wow, I don't even want to >consider. >Happy to still be, >Jeff >90 PC (Freebee) >90 PC (Red Hot) >95 'Wing --Still for sale > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at