********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: My Oil Smells Funny Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:42:47 -0800 Sounds like you spilled some oil on the exhaust pipe, and it is burning off. If so, it will burn itself off. The pipe runs almost under the filter, easy to spill oil onto. Or have you been trying that new Honda chili bean oil. Your suppose to soak the beans first to get the gas out of it (doesn't work for me, but I'm another story) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: William Drake >First of all, this is serious, my PC'S Oil smells. > >I hope that clarity's that. LOL! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:15:35 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "Lee Barker" , Subject: Re: PC800: yes, decals, yes Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:07:29 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: PC800: yes, decals, yes > Due to overwhelming response, I will reorder the decals so all may be > served. > > Thanks for the orders. I will be getting them to you as soon as possible. > > If you were reluctant to get in line before, shed that shyness like mittens > in April and let me know that you want some of these irresistable decals. > > They may be seen, incidentally, on Arvid's page. And just exactly what is > the address of that page you ask? Well, I don't know. Does any helpful > person know? http://lovik.tripod.com/PCextras.html Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rike" To: Subject: PC800: Selling your PC? Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:19:25 -0500 Greetings listers! Ol' RideSolo here. Haven't been on the list for a = while, but am still a faithful PC owner (didn't sell and buy the BMW = after all). I've gotten my older brother convinced that since it's "new = bike time" he needs to consider a PC. He loves mine but has this Gold = Wing image in his mind. The problem is that for what he has to spend he = can get a 70ish Gold Wing or a 90ish PC..... what would you do? =20 If any of you in the east, let's say from Illinois over and from = Kentucky up, are considering selling your Pacific Coast please e-mail me = and tell me about your bike, your location, and your price. Thanx! = (rike@cybrtown.com) Cory ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BF9BB2.FE0FDE40

Greetings listers! Ol' = RideSolo=20 here. Haven't been on the list for a while, but am still a = faithful PC=20 owner (didn't sell and buy the BMW after all). I've gotten my = older=20 brother convinced that since it's "new bike time" he needs to = consider=20 a PC. He loves mine but has this Gold Wing image in his = mind. The=20 problem is that for what he has to spend he can get a 70ish Gold Wing or = a 90ish=20 PC..... what would you do?

If any of you in the east, let's say from Illinois = over and=20 from Kentucky up, are considering selling your Pacific Coast please = e-mail me=20 and tell me about your bike, your location, and your price. = Thanx! =20 (rike@cybrtown.com)

Cory

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Tach goes nuts Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:19:38 -0500 Importance: Normal Hi all, Here's something that I just started noticing... When I'm in fifth gear, and I'm going around 65 or so to the point where the tach goes above 4000 or so, it all of a sudden goes nuts and starts jumping up to 6, back to where it should be, etc. There's no change in the power the bike is delivering. Is this indicative of a bad cable or tach? Russ '98 PC800 7211 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:49:07 EST Subject: Re: PC800: My Oil Smells Funny To: rstar@aa.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 4/1/00 1:41:38 AM Mountain Standard Time, rstar@aa.net writes: << Your suppose to soak the beans first to get the gas out of it (doesn't work for me, but I'm another story) >> Come to think about it, dont think that I would want it to work for me. If not for flatulence, my wife would never know if I were at home or not. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:52:25 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Tach goes nuts To: russlb@technologist.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 4/1/00 6:22:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, russlb@bellatlantic.net writes: << When I'm in fifth gear, and I'm going around 65 or so to the point where the tach goes above 4000 or so, it all of a sudden goes nuts and starts jumping up to 6, back to where it should be, etc. There's no change in the power the bike is delivering. Is this indicative of a bad cable or tach? >> I think that we can rule out cable because the tachometer is electrically driven. I hope for your sake that it is not the tach though. Honda most likely wants 500 bucks for a new one. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 09:32:32 -0500 To: From: Cheryl & Bill Subject: Re: PC800: Tach goes nuts At 08:19 AM 4/1/00 -0500, Rutherford L. Le Blang wrote: >When I'm in fifth gear, and I'm going around 65 or so to the point where the >tach goes above 4000 or so, it all of a sudden goes nuts and starts jumping >up to 6, back to where it should be, etc. There's no change in the power >the bike is delivering. Is this indicative of a bad cable or tach? The last time my tach "went nuts" it was because of a loose ground at the battery. However, it happened at a stop light, and the motor stalled right afterwards. Bill Johnson 89PC800 West Palm Beach, FL ------------------------------ | Personalized photo clocks! | | www.touchtheheart.com | | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | ------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Fw: \CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe (DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT-VIRUS) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:54:08 -0600 Hello all, Sorry for the off-topic post; however, I seem to have been infected with the PrettyPark virus while I was gone this week. As I do not know for certain who it managed to replicate itself to as my address book is quite large, I thought I would send one message to all and be done with it. Let me begin by apologizing for forwarding the virus to everyone. Just got back from being in Las Vegas for a week and the mail on my home computer seems to have acquired a mind of its own. To save everybody some time: Yes, I lost my life savings. No, I did not see Elvis... The email has the PrettyPark virus attached. If you were unlucky enough to launch the attachment without your virus protection software catching it, you are now infected with the PrettyPark virus. If you are running Windows 95,98, or 2000 and using Outlook or Outlook Express for a mail program, this virus will self-replicate to all of the smtp addresses listed in your personal address book. In addition, PrettyPark attempts to connect you to an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel in an attempt to capture your userid and password information from your hard drive. I personally recommend cleaning the virus off the machine following some of the guidance contained at the references listed below. I also recommend changing your passwords on any active accounts as that information is often stored by Windows for your convenience. A decent source of information on the PrettyPark virus is: http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2455574,00.html The full story is: PrettyPark Virus No Sleeping Beauty By Charles Babcock, Inter@ctive Week March 3, 2000 3:35 PM ET Internet users should be alerted to the spread of a variation of the virus PrettyPark, known this time around as Pretty.worm.unp. The McAfee anti-virus unit of Network Associates Inc. said that an infected e-mail attachment, when opened, will spread the worm to all the addresses in the user's address book. Mailings to all addresses will repeat every 30 minutes, causing storms of traffic on mail servers. Windows NT users of Outlook Express should look for the subject line, "C:/coolprogs/prettypark.exe." The worm has been detected at companies, at a university and in a government system, spokesmen said. This new version, with Pretty.worm.unp, is the one that arrived at my mailbox and subsequently your mailbox. I let McAfee Antivirus try to remove the beast and ended up having my system unable to launch any .exe files. This was due to PrettyPark changing a Windows registry entry. As I am at work I have yet to try the recommended registry changes from below, but will let you know as soon as I do. Some of the message traffic on this site suggests the following: Name: Jerry Crawford Email: ret_jhc@shsu.edu Location: Occupation: For some who cannot get into windows at all go to the site below and download a file called CLNPPARK.EXE (This will do it) Since the Files32.vxd will not let you open a .EXE file, go to DOS and rename the file clnppark.exe to clnppark.com. Extract it to a directory in C: and double click on it. It will remove the virus http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=0016I 2 Name: Kathy Email: klugless@northnet.net Location: Occupation: Need Help I found the web page to get rid of this virus it worked for me. Hope this helps http:/www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html Name: Jerry Crawford Email: ret_jhc@shsu.edu Location: Occupation: To remove the PrettyPark worm: 1.. On the Windows taskbar, click Start > Run. 2.. Type REGEDIT, then click OK. 3.. Modify the following Registry value: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\exefile\ shell\open\command and change files32.vxd "%1" %* to "%1" %* (For clarity, these seven characters are the following: double quote, percent sign, the numeral one, double quote, space, percent sign, and asterisk. Don't forget the space) 4.. Delete the PrettyPark.exe file. 5.. Restart your computer. 6.. Delete the \Windows\System\Files32.vxd file. Safe Computing Again, my profound apologies. Probably shouldn't have turned off the Virus Scanner, but it was slowing my aging machine down too much. I will try to do a postmortem on the virus to determine where it was before it got to us. Brad -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: New to PC List - and loving my new PC Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:19:19 -0600 Joel, Welcome to the list. I'd have to agree that this really is a fine bunch. Very helpful. From the looks of my inbox this morning, very chatty yesterday. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: PC800: New to PC List - and loving my new PC > > > Hello Fellow PC Enthusiasts, > > I have been on the list for a month but never "introduced" myself, so here goes > ... > > I have owned motorcyles (list below) for 30 years but was becoming a less active > rider in the late 80's and early 90's as my GS850G spent most of the year just > sitting in the garage. Finally it was time to ride it or get rid of it; > fortunately I chose the ride it option in late 1995. After putting a couple > thousand on the GS to clear the cobwebs, I set out to buy a new bike and chose a > CB750 leftover as a bargain too good to pass up. I've been doing about 5k per > year since then - not exactly "iron butt" class, but enough to get me out riding > 80-100 days each year, and that has brought lots of smiles to my face. My > typical pleasure rides are 50-150 miles jaunts up and down the Delaware River > between New Hope and Easton (New Hope is a pleasant 40 minutes away from where I > live). > > I've had my eye on a PC800 for the past couple years as a path to more comfort > and better wind management, but couldn't justify another new bike with the > Nighthawk still in such good shape. Honda's discontinuation of the PC finally > helped me decide to go after one now, and I picked up a 1998 with 1400 miles on > March 4 of this year. I've been out riding/commuting 15 days this month, which > is unbelievable for me in the month of March - normally I don't get active on > the bike until mid-April or May. But the PC is so smooth and fun to ride, that I > just want to get on it if the weather looks half-way decent. > > I'm in the process of "tweaking" the bike to add utility and comfort for my > aging 6'3" frame - Clearview+5, Progrip 713 grips, Throttle-meister, GIVI E460, > and hopefully later this year, a Russell seat. > > This list has been a wealth of information to me in the short month I've been on > it. I received helpful responses on every question I've had so far about > accessories purchases, minor service chores, or peculiarities of the PC. Just > being on this list makes me feel part of a club. > > I'm looking forward to my 3rd Americade this June. Especially looking forward to > a more mellow ride up on the PC, especially when the Thruway gets a bit windy. > Maybe I'll get a chance to run into a few of the list at Lake George. > > Until then, ride safe, > > Joel Barlow > Belle Mead, New Jersey > 68 CB160 > 80 GS550E > 82 GS850G > 95 CB750 > 98 PC800 (finally!) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Introducing... Yet another PC website... Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:39:44 -0600 Rich, Hit your web site this morning. Very nice. I especially like the picture (even thought I will not mention the ... THIS IS NOT A COLOR THREAD ....color of the bike :) ). Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. Fenwick" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: PC800: Introducing... Yet another PC website... > OK... So I got bored out of my mind this week here at work... > > I have created a PC website to add to the others that already exist. This > one is simple, since it was programmed in simple WYSIWYG HTML. No fancy > software here. > > It is still needing a few more close up pictures of the bike strapped to > the trailer added (whenever I can FIND them), and I'm going to add pictures > of all of modifications, but as of now it is complete and it works. Once I > feel it is "complete" with all the pictures, I will add it to the webring. > > The page can be found at: > > http://pc_800.tripod.com > > Enjoy! > > Rich Fenwick > Illinois > 1990 PC800, 24,500 miles > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Sighting in Columbus Ohio Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:41:59 -0500 Just spotted an ' 89 parked in front of Motzarts cafe on N.High St. at noon. Anyone we know? Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:51:15 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Introducing... Yet another PC website... To: Mark Gilb , pc800@hpc.uh.edu I saw the new site yesterday and LOVED the photo. In fact, it is my new "wallpaper" at home, and on Monday, will be at work. I've already emailed Rich to thank him! Paul --- Mark Gilb wrote: > Rich, > > Hit your web site this morning. Very nice. I > especially like the picture > (even thought I will not mention the ... THIS IS NOT > A COLOR THREAD > ....color of the bike :) ). > > Mark Gilb > Arnold, Mo. > 95 PC800 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R. Fenwick" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:39 PM > Subject: PC800: Introducing... Yet another PC > website... > > > > OK... So I got bored out of my mind this week here > at work... > > > > I have created a PC website to add to the others > that already exist. This > > one is simple, since it was programmed in simple > WYSIWYG HTML. No fancy > > software here. > > > > It is still needing a few more close up pictures > of the bike strapped to > > the trailer added (whenever I can FIND them), and > I'm going to add > pictures > > of all of modifications, but as of now it is > complete and it works. Once > I > > feel it is "complete" with all the pictures, I > will add it to the webring. > > > > The page can be found at: > > > > http://pc_800.tripod.com > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Rich Fenwick > > Illinois > > 1990 PC800, 24,500 miles > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Atkins Subject: PC800: installing Clearview Shield To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Good morning! Just got back from a quick ride and found myself REALLY thinking about a clearview shield (plus three) maybe?! I thought it might help a bit since I ride in a colder climate and I know folks on the list like Clearview. I am guessing that the plus three would still allow me to look OVER the shield, yet still provide some wind protection and more quiet (Less wind noise?). But, how do you install one if I get it? Thanks in advance.. Paul in Chilly Green Bay, WI __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "Paul Atkins" , Subject: Re: PC800: installing Clearview Shield Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:23:28 -0800 Is really simple..just follow the instructions that come with it and PC manual about how to remove shield Doug 94 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paul Atkins To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 10:57 AM Subject: PC800: installing Clearview Shield >Good morning! Just got back from a quick ride and >found myself REALLY thinking about a clearview shield >(plus three) maybe?! >I thought it might help a bit since I ride in a colder >climate and I know folks on the list like Clearview. I >am guessing that the plus three would still allow me >to look OVER the shield, yet still provide some wind >protection and more quiet (Less wind noise?). >But, how do you install one if I get it? >Thanks in advance.. >Paul in Chilly Green Bay, WI > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: installing Clearview Shield To: Doug , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Doug, thanks.. I don't seem to recall instruction in the owners manual on windshield removal..I'll have to check. Paul --- Doug wrote: > Is really simple..just follow the instructions that > come with it and PC > manual about how to remove shield > Doug 94 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Atkins > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 10:57 AM > Subject: PC800: installing Clearview Shield > > > >Good morning! Just got back from a quick ride and > >found myself REALLY thinking about a clearview > shield > >(plus three) maybe?! > >I thought it might help a bit since I ride in a > colder > >climate and I know folks on the list like > Clearview. I > >am guessing that the plus three would still allow > me > >to look OVER the shield, yet still provide some > wind > >protection and more quiet (Less wind noise?). > >But, how do you install one if I get it? > >Thanks in advance.. > >Paul in Chilly Green Bay, WI > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > >http://im.yahoo.com > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:12:04 EST Subject: Re: PC800: installing Clearview Shield To: patkins99@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Paul, Send me a fax number or address and I will forward the service manual pages on the windshield and the inst. sheet from Clearview. Go with the Plus 3 it great Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 40 K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: installing Clearview Shield Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:45:06 -0800 The instructions that come with are very clear, and if I can follow them, anyone can. Just be careful about dropping bolts or nuts down inside the innards, I seem to have a knack at this. One suggesting. I had first tried out a Rifle, but sent it back and got the Clearview. The Rifle directions stated to unbolt the mirrors, then just allow them to hang by the electrical wires. The Clearview directions asked that the mirrors be removed completely, disconnecting the light socket from the housing. When it came time to reconnect the electrical bulb socket, I had a very difficult time reinstalling the bulb socket into the housing. It took me longer to insert that little bulb than anything else. Next time, I will just let the mirrors hang. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Tach goes nuts Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:46:22 -0800 Check your ground wire Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rutherford L. Le Blang >When I'm in fifth gear, and I'm going around 65 or so to the point where the >tach goes above 4000 or so, it all of a sudden goes nuts and starts jumping >up to 6, back to where it should be, etc. There's no change in the power >the bike is delivering. Is this indicative of a bad cable or tach? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 21:45:40 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 13:45:54 +0000 From: B Pickett To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings I picked up Blue from the Honda dealer this morning, and somehow, the 8 miles between the shop and my house stretched into 40 miles (the new front wheel bearings needed testing, eh!). I'm happy to report that the front end whine has disappeared after putting in the new wheel bearings. Bearing in mind (intentional pun) that my hearing is deficient in the high ranges, my original wheel bearings could have been bad for a while before they degraded to the point where I could actually hear them. Regarding the issue of the front brakes, if you recall, I earlier reported that the Honda shop wanted about $670 to replace both disks and pad sets. The service manager said that his mechanic reported that both disks were beyond the service limit. Chuck Chiodini noted that Motorcycle Consumer News had a recent article on rebuilding brakes. I found that article online at http://www.mcnews.com/depts/brakreb299.html . That article says that motorcycle disk brakes can be resurfaced for about $20 by shops that do machining on automotive flywheels. Chuck suggested that I challenge what the shop reported on the disks, so I brought Blue home and examined them myself. Fortunately, I have a precision thickness micrometer that measures to a thousandth of an inch. The PC800 Service Manual specifies the standard brake disk thickness should be 5 mm (0.20") and the service limit is 4 mm (0.16"). Blue's left disk is smooth and flat, and mic's out at 4.47 mm (0.176"), so I don't think anything needs to be done with that one. The right disk, however, is deeply grooved and the minimum thickness is 3.37 mm (0.133"). It looks like that disk is beyond resurfacing and should be replaced. I talked with Milpitas Honda this morning, and they sell the disks for $155.31 each, and brake pads for $30 per set (+s/h). The replacement procedure in the service manual looks pretty straight forward. Chuck also sent me a couple of pointers on brake work. I'll repeat those here for anyone who is interested (I didn't ask his permission, but I hope he doesn't mind): 1. Once you remove the calipers (two bolts per) and pads, you'll need to retract the pistons back into their bores. Easy way is to use a "C clamp" with the stationary arm on a solid piece of the caliper and the "screw" arm on the piston. A few turns of the screw and you're done with no damage to any parts. 2. Once you get your new pads in and assembled, you'll be dismayed because the front brake lever will feel "dead". Not to worry, simply pump it up a few times so the pads can adjust themselves to the rotors and you should have good tight brakes. If anyone else has any insights regarding brake servicing, please let me know. Thanks! BTW - The ride home was tremendously wonderful. The sun was shining in a clear blue sky and it was 68 degrees. The cherry blossoms are in full bloom, and Mt. Rainier to the east and the Olympic Mountains to the west were brilliant in their snowy white glory. Puget Sound was dazzling blue and dotted with the white sails of pleasure boats plying the waters. Sorry, Juan ;-) Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:33:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom.freed" To: Subject: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:34:40 -0500 Importance: Normal Hi All, Have only had the PC for about a year now and noticed the PC seems to lean excessively when parked on the kickstand. Is this normal or a design for shorter riders! Also, any feedback on good trailers. I was looking at the Kendon. http://www.kendontrailers.com/cgi-bin/kendon.storefront Thanks, Tom Freed Columbia MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:25:31 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering To: tom.freed@home.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) tom.freed@home.com writes: >Hi All, > >Have only had the PC for about a year now and noticed the PC seems >to lean >excessively when parked on the kickstand. Is this normal or a >design for >shorter riders! > >Also, any feedback on good trailers. I was looking at the Kendon. >http://www.kendontrailers.com/cgi-bin/kendon.storefront > >Thanks, > >Tom Freed >Columbia MD I don't have a trailer, but I can tell you my '98 has always leaned over quite far on the kickstand, its normal for our bikes. I think it was the Kawasaki Concours I had before my PC800 that stood up so straight on the kickstand that I was afraid it would tip over in the opposite direction. I much prefer the extra lean of my PC800 in most situations. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 00:21:19 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Stock Windshields Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:44:52 -0500 Hi, I have a '90 and the rifle site says the '90 came stock with a +2 shield, all other years had the +0. Sounds like the clearview +3 will only give me +1 over my "stock". Anyone compared the '90 screen to other years? Anyone have a '90 they fitted a clearview to? If so, what "+" did you go with, and is it really "better"? Happy Trails, RK -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: APOPJ@aol.com for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 18:57:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 18:57:58 EST Subject: PC800: PC for sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello all, I have received many requests concerning my PC and photos, so here it is...1996 PC800 red in color in absolutely perfect condition. 5500 miles with 2 1/2 years of Honda warranty remaining. Totally stock except backrest if 6" higher for passenger comfort. Want $5200 for her and might help with delivery. 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majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:07:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: "Rike" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Selling your PC? Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:17:16 -0600 Cory, I was at the Honda dealership in Kendallville IN. (just north of Fort = Wayne) this week. They have a 90 PC with 5,500 miles on it. They are = asking $3600. Sorry I don't remember the name of the dealership, but I'm = sure you can get it from directory assistance.=20 Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rike=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 7:19 AM Subject: PC800: Selling your PC? Greetings listers! Ol' RideSolo here. Haven't been on the list for a = while, but am still a faithful PC owner (didn't sell and buy the BMW = after all). I've gotten my older brother convinced that since it's "new = bike time" he needs to consider a PC. He loves mine but has this Gold = Wing image in his mind. The problem is that for what he has to spend he = can get a 70ish Gold Wing or a 90ish PC..... what would you do? =20 =20 If any of you in the east, let's say from Illinois over and from = Kentucky up, are considering selling your Pacific Coast please e-mail me = and tell me about your bike, your location, and your price. Thanx! = (rike@cybrtown.com) =20 Cory (just north=20 of Fort Wayne) this week. They have a 90 PC with 5,500 miles on it. They = are=20 asking $3600. Sorry I don't remember the name of the dealership, but I'm = sure=20 you can get it from directory assistance.

Jeff

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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 = 7:19=20 AM

Subject: PC800: Selling your = PC?

Greetings listers! Ol' = RideSolo=20 here. Haven't been on the list for a while, but am still a = faithful PC=20 owner (didn't sell and buy the BMW after all). I've gotten my = older=20 brother convinced that since it's "new bike time" he needs to consider = a=20 PC. He loves mine but has this Gold Wing image in his = mind. The=20 problem is that for what he has to spend he can get a 70ish Gold Wing = or a=20 90ish PC..... what would you do?

Cory

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:20:32 -0500 Subject: PC800: Enough is Enough! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter it really is. I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E4L6MW75; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:45:27 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:42:33 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Tom, I have a Kendon Stand-up trailer. I bought it used. Although its only a couple of years old, the previous owner kept it hidden in a swampy area behind his house. The powder-coat finish rusted badly. I've used it a dozen times already and I must say it's light, easy to use and tows like it's not even there. I needed a fold-up trailer because I live in the city and had no place to keep a conventional trailer. If I had a place to store a larger trailer I wouldn't pay the bigger bucks for the Kendon. I plan to refinish it this summer and I'm keeping it. Having the PC lean over as far as it does on its sidestand makes it more stable. If it were more upright I'd worry about it. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA tom.freed@home.com writes: >Hi All, > >Have only had the PC for about a year now and noticed the PC seems >to lean >excessively when parked on the kickstand. Is this normal or a >design for >shorter riders! >Also, any feedback on good trailers. I was looking at the Kendon. >http://www.kendontrailers.com/cgi-bin/kendon.storefront > >Thanks, > >Tom Freed >Columbia MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: B Pickett cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings of "Sat, 01 Apr 2000 13:45:54 GMT." <38E5FD92.F4C75B2C@homemail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:02:03 -0600 From: David Kelly B Pickett writes: > The right disk, > however, is deeply grooved and the minimum thickness is 3.37 mm > (0.133"). It looks like that disk is beyond resurfacing and should be > replaced. By "minimum thickness" do you mean you measured in a groove? If the thickness face to face is about what the other disk is, then grooves or not, if it was mine I wouldn't replace it. Also *never* have a disc "resurfaced" unless it is out of round and pulsing your brake pedal/lever. Brake shops will always resurface your rotors and won't be careful about how much material they remove. The more they remove the sooner you buy new rotors from them. > I talked with Milpitas Honda this morning, and they sell the > disks for $155.31 each, and brake pads for $30 per set (+s/h). Sometimes low volume parts prices really hurts. Last time (1991) I bought brake rotors for a VW Golf (the A2) were $20 each for the premium ATE German-made ones, or $12.95 at Western Auto for the mystery-brand USA made ones. Or $8 to resurface. I got a J.C. Whitney motorcycle (ha! more like "Goldwing" or "Harley") catalog in the mail today. Didn't see brake rotors but that doesn't mean anything. I'd bet Dennis Kirk has aftermarket brake rotors. I'd trust aftermarket no-name brake rotors while I would *not* trust brake pads. Using non-Honda parts you should be able to get two rotors for less than the price of one Honda. > The replacement procedure in the service manual looks pretty straight > forward. Chuck also sent me a couple of pointers on brake work. I'll > repeat those here for anyone who is interested (I didn't ask his > permission, but I hope he doesn't mind): > 1. Once you remove the calipers (two bolts per) and pads, > you'll need to retract the pistons back into their bores. > Easy way is to use a "C clamp" with the stationary arm > on a solid piece of the caliper and the "screw" arm on > the piston. A few turns of the screw and you're done > with no damage to any parts. Go to the grocery store and by a turkey baster. You know what I mean, one of those giant sized eyedroppers. If you compress your caliper piston(s) as described above the brake fluid you squeeze out of the caliper has to go somewhere. It will go back into the master cylinder on your right handlebar. And if you compress with a C clamp then you'll probably generate enough pressure to blow the top off and spray brake fluid all over your plastic. Cleanup will cost more than the $450 or so you stand to save. Take the top off the master cylinder (the place you put brake fluid *in*). Use the turkey baster to suck as much out as you can. Put it in a glass jar and start thinking of safe ways to dispose of used brake fluid. Last time I put the used fluid back in the metal brake fluid cans and sat it out by the street on "recycle day" with some used motor oil. Am still laughing because somebody stopped and *stole* my used motor oil and brake fluid. Was afraid I was going to have to pay somebody/ someplace to get rid of it. When you use the C-clamp on one caliper you need another C clamp on the other because compressing one will cause the other to expand. Nothing holds the caliper piston in. And once again you stand to make a big mess if the other caliper's piston pops out. You should have a couple of quarts of denatured rubbing (isopropyl) alcohol nearby before doing brake work. That's the cheapest thing that cuts DOT3 brake fluid. The drugstore variety isn't ideal for cleaning or soaking brake parts but its just the thing for getting it off your hands. Back to the task at hand, *gently* compress the caliper piston with the C clamp. Some people can do it with their fingers. Often I've done it with a screwdriver wedged between the rotor and the worn out brake pad. Its very important that you compress the piston straight and don't cock it in the caliper. While compressing note the fluid level in the master cylinder. Suck it out with the turkey baster before it overflows. Also be careful not to compress the caliper piston too fast as sometimes brake fluid squirts out the master cylinder and sprays everything. You'll need new replacement brake fluid. I like the synthetic Castrol DOT4 stuff you can get at K-mart, Walmart, etc. Was about $7/quart. You should get the pint can. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering of "Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:25:31 EST." Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:24:02 -0600 Speaking of kickstands, yes the PC leans a bit on the extreme. And even more if you mount a taller or bigger rear tire than the factory did. Changed my oil today and noticed a bolt was trying to fall out of the centerstand pivot on the left side. Put the PC on its side stand and flopped on the floor (I have a separated left shoulder) and got that bolt back in. Was happy its nut was welded and not lost. Checked the other side and it too was loose. It wasn't so loose as the other side that it was falling out. Plastic tupperware kept the left bolt from falling all the way out. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:51:47 -0500 To: David Kelly From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings Cc: B Pickett , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello David. At 8:02 PM -0600 4/1/00, David Kelly wrote: > > > > >Go to the grocery store and by a turkey baster. You know what I mean, >one of those giant sized eyedroppers. If you compress your caliper >piston(s) as described above the brake fluid you squeeze out of the >caliper has to go somewhere. It will go back into the master cylinder on >your right handlebar. I don't understand where this excess brake fluid comes from. If the system was full when there were new pads on the bike, and then the pads wore out over time, wouldn't the fluid be low, but presumably still within the accepted range between the HI and LOW marks on the master cylinder. I'm not sure why the fluid would overflow if the pistons were pushed back into the calipers to their original position. Curious in Canada. fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:04:19 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Oh yes I forgot to tell you I'm having my PC800 repainted before I sell it, now that I have this great new BMW. I found a super color today at the local body shop. It's hard to describe, but it is called Piafrooll. Kind of a cross between what might be and what is. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: >I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting >me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth >were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last >straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in >Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home >and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter >it really is. > >I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:05:47 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: David Kelly , B Pickett , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings Hello FSL: It could be that someone might push the calipers FARTHER in than when the bike was new. That might cause an overflow. At least, that's the only way I can think of. Tony Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Hello David. > > At 8:02 PM -0600 4/1/00, David Kelly wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Go to the grocery store and by a turkey baster. You know what I mean, > >one of those giant sized eyedroppers. If you compress your caliper > >piston(s) as described above the brake fluid you squeeze out of the > >caliper has to go somewhere. It will go back into the master cylinder on > >your right handlebar. > > I don't understand where this excess brake fluid comes from. If the > system was full when there were new pads on the bike, and then the > pads wore out over time, wouldn't the fluid be low, but presumably > still within the accepted range between the HI and LOW marks on the > master cylinder. > > I'm not sure why the fluid would overflow if the pistons were pushed > back into the calipers to their original position. > > Curious in Canada. > > fsl :-) > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:32:40 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: PC800 Rider CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! Nice one, Tim. You got it in just before the deadline. An April Fool's joke wouldn't have worked in a few more hours. :-) Tony PC800 Rider wrote: > > Oh yes I forgot to tell you I'm having my PC800 repainted before I > sell it, now that I have this great new BMW. I found a super color > today at the local body shop. It's hard to describe, but it is > called Piafrooll. Kind of a cross between what might be and what is. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: > >I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting > >me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth > >were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last > >straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in > >Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home > >and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter > >it really is. > > > >I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. > > > >Tim Davies > >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > > >AMA #688662 > >HSTA #8387 > >HRCA #HM100878 > > > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Braking Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:46:31 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan A. Goula" Anyway, yes, the technique is to increase the proportion of the work done by the front brake as the weight transfer forward takes place. That way you avoid locking up either wheel while maximizing the work done by both brakes. Reminds me of a story--mine! :-) The only time I've ever been injured in a m/c incident was in 1991 when I broke my leg. I was going so slowly that it almost couldn't be called a "moving incident". I was coming to a stop in an asphalt parking lot when the front wheel (with brake being applied) hit a patch of grease. The front wheel slid out to the right and...instinctively...I put my foot down. My son, on his bike, heard the bone snap 25 feet away. A couple of months later I was gimping around in a furniture store on my crutches when when the cocky young salesman (you've had them,I'm sure!) swaggered over to Nan and me and said "Hey, sport, what happened?". I quickly explained my accident, and he came back with, "Well, no wonder you got hurt. You used your front brake. The front brake on a motorcycle is NEVER supposed to be used for stopping. I ride a (insert sportbike name) and I NEVER use the front brake." And...no...we didn't buy any furniture from him either. I figured he was too much of a moron to write up the order correctly, and he wouldn't be around long enough to make sure the furniture was delivered. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:52:25 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:20:32 -0500 I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter it really is. Hey, Tim, how gullible to you think we are...especially on April Fools Day? Do you think that we're going to buy some stupid cock-and-bull story from you that you actually went in on a Saturday--when you could be out riding--and GOT A HAIRCUT? Nice try...! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 04:14:12 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:09:47 -0700 From: Bob Coffman To: PC800 Rider CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! --------------67C5F29BED19DB2818BA2BA9 Nice try! April Fool!!! Bob PC800 Rider wrote: > > I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting > me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth > were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last > straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in > Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home > and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter > it really is. > > I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --------------67C5F29BED19DB2818BA2BA9 Content-Description: Card for "bcoffman@uswest.net" begin: vcard fn: "bcoffman@uswest.net" n: ;"bcoffman@uswest.net" email;internet: bcoffman@uswest.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------67C5F29BED19DB2818BA2BA9-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:30:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:30:12 EST Subject: PC800: I fell for it To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu OK I fell for it. Why not ?? it does look like a scooter, and the BMW is a nice machine, with a very nice price tag. Trading in the PC800 on one would pay for the sales tax and maybe the first tank of gas. Ride Safe Jim T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: tjphelps@ci.orem.ut.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I want another PC800 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:41:29 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas J. Phelps" A while ago I was looking for a '96 PC800 for my father. I found one through your help. Now I'm looking for another for my father's friend. Does anyone have any leads? A 96, 97, or 98 would be great. Less than 20K miles.... Well, Tom, in your quest to start a '96 PC800 Club...I just may have one for you if you're willing to travel from Utah. The same shop where Will Edwards got a PC for his friend now has another one on the floor: Taylor Honda Woodburn, OR (30 miles South of Portland on I-5) (800)981-1318 Ask for John Taylor 1996 Honda PC800 Very good shape; very clean Corbin Seat 18,910 Miles $4,995 Hope this helps. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:56:46 -0800 From: Joel Kopp To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: First real drive of the spring Drove north out of Seattle on I-5 to Anacortes this morning with a friend on his Shadow 750. Explored the town (there's an awesome overlook up 4th street) and had lunch there, then headed across Deception Pass to Whidbey Island. Drove south the length of the island on 525 and took the 20-minute ferry ride back to the mainland. Stopped now and again for photo opps (not being digital yet, I have nothing to share). 175 miles round trip. Weather: mostly sunny, low 60s (eventually). It's funny how people who probably wouldn't buy a PC themselves (like my aforementioned friend) still admire what the bike does. Everything the PC has that the Shadow (and other basic cruisers) don't made him envious: the fairing, the heated handgrips, the trunk, the vista cruise lock, even Neil's PC glovebox. Joel Kopp Seattle '95 PC800 "Explorer" P. S. How many Joels do we have on this list now, anyway? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tach goes nuts Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:01:47 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" Hi all, Here's something that I just started noticing... When I'm in fifth gear, and I'm going around 65 or so to the point where the tach goes above 4000 or so, it all of a sudden goes nuts and starts jumping up to 6, back to where it should be, etc. There's no change in the power the bike is delivering. Is this indicative of a bad cable or tach? I'd go with a bad connection too, Russ. However, if you've got a '98 with only 7200 miles on it, you're still covered by warranty. If you're dealing with a shop where you can trust the knowledge of the mechs, take 'er back and have them fix it on their dime. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings of "Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:05:47 CST." <38E6B90B.F2D8C93A@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:22:21 -0600 Tony Miller writes: > Hello FSL: > > It could be that someone might push the calipers FARTHER in than when > the bike was new. That might cause an overflow. At least, that's the > only way I can think of. The brake master cylinder reservoir is not designed to hold a lifetime supply of brake fluid. As your pads wear it needs brake fluid to be added to make up for the volume the caliper pistons have had to extend. And considering we have two calipers there is need for even more volume. Suck the old brake fluid out. If the pads are worn and the rotors need replacing, the brake fluid does too. I usually go thru at least 2 changes of brake fluid per set of pads on most every vehicle I've owned. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <38E6B90B.F2D8C93A@yahoo.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:44:34 -0500 To: Tony Miller From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings Cc: David Kelly , B Pickett , pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:05 PM -0600 4/1/00, Tony Miller wrote: >Hello FSL: > >It could be that someone might push the calipers FARTHER in than when >the bike was new. That might cause an overflow. At least, that's the >only way I can think of. > >Tony > > Hi Tony. Yeah, that's quite possible, but if your careful you should be able to push them back just far enough to slip the pads into place. I haven't had to change the pads on my PC800 yet, but I have done it a few times on previous bikes. (Kawasaki KZ1000 and Z1100R). These bikes had three discs, and I never once removed the master cylinder cover to replace the pads. I would squeeze the piston back in using a huge flat screwdriver and the old pad, then just slip the new pads into place. Ride safe fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 00:44:28 -0500 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:20 PM -0500 4/1/00, PC800 Rider wrote: >I was at the barbershop today Ha Ha Ha! April Fool's to you to Tim! I know that dead rodent you call a hair piece doesn't need cutting! Nice try though! he he he ... Obnoxious in Ottawa..... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:00:01 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Plastic Repair Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:00:16 -0800 I looked at a site recently that showed how to repair body panels for on a PC800. Unfourtunately, I did not bookmark the site. Please post the URL if you know. Thanks, Rick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 06:37:06 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:37:22 +0000 From: B Pickett To: Coverts CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic Repair Rick, The Urethane Supply Company in Rainsville, AL ( http://www.urethanesupply.com/ ) has lots of info on repairing all kinds of plastics. FWIW, most of the tupperware is ABS, while the front fairing and trunk protectors (roll bar covers) are polypropylene. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html Coverts wrote: > > I looked at a site recently that showed how to repair body panels for on a > PC800. Unfourtunately, I did not bookmark the site. Please post the URL > if you know. > > Thanks, > > Rick > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 08:01:55 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:02:09 +0000 From: B Pickett To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Front brakes & wheel bearings David, Yes, I measured the minimum thickness in the deepest groove. There really isn't a flat area on the whole disk - it's all concentric hills and valleys. But even at its thickest, the right disk is only 0.15", which is still less than the service limit (0.16"). Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 Blue Pacific David Kelly wrote: > > By "minimum thickness" do you mean you measured in a groove? If the > thickness face to face is about what the other disk is, then grooves or > not, if it was mine I wouldn't replace it. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Stock Windshields Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 01:53:27 -0800 A friend of mine just purchased a 90 PC with the stock shield. It is pretty scratched up and in a few weeks we will switch it for the stock shield that came off my 96, then we will let you know if it is the same. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: PC800: Stock Windshields >Hi, >I have a '90 and the rifle site says the '90 came stock with a +2 shield, all >other years had the +0. Sounds like the clearview +3 will only give me +1 >over my "stock". Anyone compared the '90 screen to other years? Anyone have >a '90 they fitted a clearview to? If so, what "+" did you go with, and is it >really "better"? > >Happy Trails, >RK >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800 Rider" Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 02:08:55 -0700 It is now April 2, and I bet you just gave us all a April Fool's joke. Buying a BMW, really. Maybe an ST, but certainly not a luxury tourer. I bet the LT even has Internet access built in, to receive your PC800 email... Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Enough is Enough! >Oh yes I forgot to tell you I'm having my PC800 repainted before I >sell it, now that I have this great new BMW. I found a super color >today at the local body shop. It's hard to describe, but it is >called Piafrooll. Kind of a cross between what might be and what is. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > > >pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: >>I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting >>me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth >>were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last >>straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in >>Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home >>and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter >>it really is. >> >>I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. >> >>Tim Davies >>Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >>'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" >> >>AMA #688662 >>HSTA #8387 >>HRCA #HM100878 >> >>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: PC800: New 90 PC in group Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 02:40:44 -0700 Well Friday my friend Bob and I rode double up down to Taylor's Honda in Oregon and picked up his "new" 90 PC. It made an almost 500 mile day before we got back. He really loves it. Taylor's installed a new front tire & oil and filter change and Bob paid to have a crack tail light lens replaced. What we missed and didn't noticed until almost home is that the right fork seal is leaking and will have to be replaced. Wished the mechanic at Taylor's had caught it while doing the tire change, could have got the seal done also. We thought about doing it ourselves, but Bob is just going to have a local dealer do the work, estimated at about $200.00. I checked Daniel's Repair & Maintenance log, there does not seem to be any common mileage for the fork seals to start leaking. The only other things he wants to change is the windshield (still stock and pretty scratched up) and a set of handlebar clamps to bring them back an inch. On a side note, today while we were out riding four times I had an electrical malfunction on my 96. The ignition just suddenly cut out, as if I hit the kill switch or turn the key off. All the dash lights remained on. After the second time, it refused to restart for a few minutes, starter would just turn over, but then started up as if nothing wrong. The other times I was able to start it up immediately. This all happen within about about ten minutes, then the rest of the day was normal, no other problems. I would hate to be leaned over accelerating in a curve and loose engine power, not a good thing, very bad. Must be electrical problem, something a little loose. I guess some plastic has to come off to look. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: NWHPCTA ride Sunday, N/A Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 02:50:34 -0700 I guess I won't be available Sunday, my folks are camping in Blaine, Wa and called wanting a visit. Also, no one cut my lawn for me while I was out riding Friday & Saturday. All the kids I have, and no one came to help out poor old dad. You know, the Bible says "Blessed is the man with many children". Now that all my kids are grown up and out of the house, I figured out what that means. If you keep having kids there is always a new crop of young ones around to do all those chores that you hate doing, and leaves more time for more enjoyable things. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: PC800: Going off the List Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:09:51 +0100 Dear All Have to go off the list for a while. Sure will miss you guys and gals. :-( God willing, I will be back in a few weeks. I can be contacted on anyone one of the following Email addresses: jobc@lineone.net job@pcsg.co.uk Good Riding Job Sussex Coast Britiain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic Repair Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:05:43 +0100 http://pc800.tripod.com/crackrepair/crackrepair.html Good Luck Job Sussex Coast Britain ----- Original Message ----- > Coverts asked: > I looked at a site recently that showed how to repair body panels for on a > PC800. Unfourtunately, I did not bookmark the site. Please post the URL > if you know. > > Thanks, > > Rick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 08:21:12 -0400 Subject: PC800: April Fool Smarties To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) You folks are so smart! Almost everyone saw right through me, but I just had to do it since I didn't see anyone else going for it. Or did they? Funny thing is the barbershop part was true... I'll have to remember to park with the Yankee Smuggler's motorcycle front end facing out and its scooter rear end toward the building:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob and Grace Parker" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: PC800: Jackets again? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:02:23 -0400 Hi there, We are looking at three jackets Kilimanjaro Tecknic and Belfast It seems in the archive most tend to lean toward the Kilimanjaro and that Belfast is waterproof but not that good against the road Did not see anything about Tecnic Is thise pretty much what most ppl thinks Thanks Bob and Grace -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:54:24 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom.freed" To: Subject: RE: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 10:55:19 -0400 Importance: Normal Harvey, I too need a fold-up trailer. I've got about 3 ft of space between the bumper of the Fiat Spider (no rust) and the garage door. Will it stand in three ft of floor space? I'm not sure I want to pay the bucks but if I look at what I payed for the PC + the trailer I'm way ahead of the Harley guys! Regards, Tom -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Harvey P. Sattin Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:43 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering Tom, I have a Kendon Stand-up trailer. I bought it used. Although its only a couple of years old, the previous owner kept it hidden in a swampy area behind his house. The powder-coat finish rusted badly. I've used it a dozen times already and I must say it's light, easy to use and tows like it's not even there. I needed a fold-up trailer because I live in the city and had no place to keep a conventional trailer. If I had a place to store a larger trailer I wouldn't pay the bigger bucks for the Kendon. I plan to refinish it this summer and I'm keeping it. Having the PC lean over as far as it does on its sidestand makes it more stable. If it were more upright I'd worry about it. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA tom.freed@home.com writes: >Hi All, > >Have only had the PC for about a year now and noticed the PC seems >to lean >excessively when parked on the kickstand. Is this normal or a >design for >shorter riders! >Also, any feedback on good trailers. I was looking at the Kendon. >http://www.kendontrailers.com/cgi-bin/kendon.storefront > >Thanks, > >Tom Freed >Columbia MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:13:01 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:12:25 -0400 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) To: Will Edwards CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New 90 PC in group 200.00 to change a fork seal?? At those prices you could afford to fly me in & change it........ lol Stan Will Edwards wrote: > Well Friday my friend Bob and I rode double up down to Taylor's Honda > in Oregon and picked up his "new" 90 PC. It made an almost 500 mile > day before we got back. > He really loves it. Taylor's installed a new front tire & oil and > filter change and Bob paid to have a crack tail light lens replaced. > What we missed and didn't noticed until almost home is that the right > fork seal is leaking and will have to be replaced. Wished the mechanic > at Taylor's had caught it while doing the tire change, could have got > the seal done also. We thought about doing it ourselves, but Bob is > just going to have a local dealer do the work, estimated at about > $200.00. I checked Daniel's Repair & Maintenance log, there does not > seem to be any common mileage for the fork seals to start leaking. > The only other things he wants to change is the windshield (still > stock and pretty scratched up) and a set of handlebar clamps to bring > them back an inch. > > On a side note, today while we were out riding four times I had an > electrical malfunction on my 96. The ignition just suddenly cut out, > as if I hit the kill switch or turn the key off. All the dash lights > remained on. After the second time, it refused to restart for a few > minutes, starter would just turn over, but then started up as if > nothing wrong. The other times I was able to start it up immediately. > This all happen within about about ten minutes, then the rest of the > day was normal, no other problems. I would hate to be leaned over > accelerating in a curve and loose engine power, not a good thing, very > bad. Must be electrical problem, something a little loose. I guess > some plastic has to come off to look. > > Will Edwards rstar@aa.net > http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ > Washington State > 96 Honda PC800 > Focus your eyes to where you want to be, > Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Tach going nuts Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:18:25 -0400 Importance: Normal Hi all, Thanks for the replies. Here's another question that I was reminded of... A couple of months ago, a lister posted that he/she had a PC800 that when the rider or passenger got on, it made a noise. This was attributed to brushings(?) that they were going to make replacements for. Does anyone remember this? Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:28:54 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven) Subject: PC800: Floorboards for a PC? I've checked the archives looking to see if anyone has adapted any sort of "floorboard" to the PC in lieu of pegs. No luck! Has anyone tried this? Successes? Failures? Seems like floorboards are a departure point from "sport" touring to real "touring". Comments? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paul and Mary Hughes" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: new bike Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 10:31:39 -0500 The recent talk of the need for the PC to have a larger motor prompted us do do some looking. We found a=20 great deal on a '99 BMW R1100RT but it was just too expensive for my pocketbook. Next we looked at a '96 K1100LT. Found it to be a great bike, so we bought it; thinking it would take a while to sell the PC. Well, as luck would have it, the PC sold the=20 following week for just what I was asking, and I didn't have to=20 advertise. The friend of a friend bought it. We are enjoying the BMW and realize that the extra power comes in very handy. I had a Russell seat ordered for the PC, but they are going to make it for the LT instead. Sadly, we are going to unsubscribe. We have enjoyed the list and will miss the daily updates. You've really = helped=20 us in all aspects of riding. After riding a PC for seven years we will = still=20 be on the lookout for PC's where ever we go, and hope to run into some=20 of you in our travels.=20 Paul and Mary Hughes Louisiana

We are enjoying the BMW and realize that the = extra=20 power comes in

very handy. I had a Russell seat = ordered=20 for the PC, but they are going

to make it for the LT instead. Sadly, we are going to=20 unsubscribe. We

have enjoyed the list and will miss the daily updates. You've = really=20 helped

us in all aspects of riding. After riding a PC for seven = years we=20 will still

be on the lookout for PC's where ever we go, and hope to run into = some=20

of you in our travels.

Paul and Mary Hughes

Louisiana

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:42:10 -0400 To: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Floorboards for a PC? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 11:28 AM -0500 4/2/00, Dave Steven wrote: >I've checked the archives looking to see if anyone has adapted any sort of >"floorboard" to the PC in lieu of pegs. No luck! > >Has anyone tried this? Successes? Failures? > Someone has done this to an 89 PC800, but he doesn't have internet access. I saw his bike at last years Honda Homecoming. There was a note on it telling people that he had retro-fit the floorboards for less than $150 if I remember correctly. I didn't write the number down, but I seem to remember that the area code was 330, which is Akron, OH I believe. They looked pretty good overall. The boards were on levers so they would bend up out of the way if you were cornering too low. Any Akron people out there? Keep your eyes open for an 89 and find out more info. fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.2-33 #38709) Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:08:02 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:10:54 -0400 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: Floorboards for a PC? To: Francois Saint Laurent , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:42:10 -0400, Francois wrote: -->At 11:28 AM -0500 4/2/00, Dave Steven wrote: -->>I've checked the archives looking to see if anyone has adapted any = sort of -->>"floorboard" to the PC in lieu of pegs. No luck! -->> -->>Has anyone tried this? Successes? Failures? -->> --> --> -->Someone has done this to an 89 PC800, but he doesn't have internet=20 -->access. I saw his bike at last years Honda Homecoming. There was a=20 -->note on it telling people that he had retro-fit the floorboards for=20 -->less than $150 if I remember correctly. I didn't write the number=20 -->down, but I seem to remember that the area code was 330, which is=20 -->Akron, OH I believe. --> -->They looked pretty good overall. The boards were on levers so they=20 -->would bend up out of the way if you were cornering too low. --> -->Any Akron people out there? Keep your eyes open for an 89 and find=20 -->out more info. --> -->fsl :-) __________________________________________________ Wait now..here is an idea, garnered from the Honda Shadow Spirit...a friend took the floorboards offered, inexpensively, in the Whitney catalog, and manufactured pegs that simply replace the stock Honda Spirit pegs, they bolt right up to the Spirit/ACE 750/VLX 600/ACE 1100. Now...if someone is mechanically minded, has the machinery (lathe?), and the time...how about trying that? =20 This individual sells them for $69.00 delivered to your door..if you have a Shadow. I could ask him if he wanted to try it for the PC...what does everyone think? I am (hopefully) selling my PC, but I will ask if there is enough interest..and anyone on the list doesn't desire to tackle the project. Let me know... Here is the URL for the boards, shown attached to my '97 Honda Shadow Spirit. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/Kellyboards.html Check out the boards, and if someone wants to tackle it..ok, if not..email Kelly from the site. He is in Minnesota, if we have a PC'er there..I am sure he would like to view/examine the PC to give an estimate, or whatever. Just some thoughts. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:32:46 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Floorboards for a PC? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >At 11:28 AM -0500 4/2/00, Dave Steven wrote: >>I've checked the archives looking to see if anyone has adapted >any sort of >>"floorboard" to the PC in lieu of pegs. No luck! >> >>Has anyone tried this? Successes? Failures? >> > > >Someone has done this to an 89 PC800, but he doesn't have internet >access. I saw his bike at last years Honda Homecoming. There was >a >note on it telling people that he had retro-fit the floorboards >for >less than $150 if I remember correctly. I didn't write the >number >down, but I seem to remember that the area code was 330, which is >Akron, OH I believe. > >They looked pretty good overall. The boards were on levers so >they >would bend up out of the way if you were cornering too low. > >Any Akron people out there? Keep your eyes open for an 89 and >find >out more info. > >fsl :-) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > I saw the floorboards on the same bike at the 1998 Honda Homecoming, but I don't have the owners information either. If you check out this picture http://www.sfcs.k12.ny.us/~pc800/HHPictures9.html I believe he is the person on the far left of this photo next to me. I don't have any other photo, this one came from Dena Plaschka (Rob just have taken it because Dena it the second from the right in the photo) I do remember it looked like a quality job and he said it was not difficult. Sorry to say I did not ask to sit on his bike to try them out. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: April Fool Smarties Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:53:01 PDT Tim Davies sez: You folks are so smart! Almost everyone saw right through me, but I just had to do it since I didn't see anyone else going for it. Or did they? It was pretty cute, Tim...but I did note a minor faux pas... In your initial post you said that you traded in your PC for the Light Truck, and your 2nd post you indicated that you were painting it before selling it! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:00:28 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: PC800: Enough is Enough! > > >I was at the barbershop today and a customer came in complimenting >me on my motorcycle. Unfortunately the first words out of his mouth >were "It looked like a scooter from the rear." That was the last >straw! When I was finished I immediately rode to the BMW dealer in >Rochester, New York and traded for a 2000 BMW K1200LT. rode it home >and I love it. Makes that old PC800 of mine look like the scooter >it really is. > >I guess that customer was correct. Yankee Smuggler signing off. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" ****..OK...so I must be gullible...,well,, for only a couple of secs. I must admit that I had a sudden case of shock,,,of course being Sunday and just getting to my 98 e-mails that were waiting for me (my excuse)... I had to jump to the next email to find out that this was a PRANK!...good one Tim.....I OWE YA ONE!!!!! Greg (gullible) Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada PS....oh..and no, I am not interested in any properties in Florida,Alaska,Seneca Falls..etc -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:06:15 EDT Subject: PC800: need help with part numbers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I would like to order a body part via the internet to save a few dollars, but I need the part number. My local dealer will not give out the info. (He is not my "dealer" as since that day I have not given my one cent, but that is another story) Anyway I am looking for the WINDSCREEN GARNISH page 2-8 Service Manual and ADJUSTING RUBBERS page 2-26 Service Manual. Body part is needed in 96 RED. Thanks in advance as always, Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 40K Corbin Clearview Plus 3 Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, st1100@st1100.com Subject: PC800: Sad Circumstances... Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:50:34 PDT I finally met John and Rhoda Strode yesterday. As fellow PC800 riders who live in Myrtle Creek, OR, they reside on both the PC800 and HSTA lists. We have chatted back and forth in cyberspace, but I have never met or ridden with them. It was good to finally be able to put faces to names, but it was under the saddest of circumstances that we met. It was at Nadene Berthold's memorial service, held in Portland. As all of you have already read in various posts to both lists, Nadene was tragically killed in a motorcycling accident on Saturday, March 26th. She was part of a group of about 15 riders who were pre-riding the Oregon 250, which is hosted by the Rose City Motorcycle Club. The accident occurred on a bridge that was the beginning of a decreasing-radius right-hand curve in Silver Falls State Park--one of nature's miracles in the foothills of the Cascade Range east of Salem, OR. She was riding her beloved Moto Guzzi California at the time. Most people are legends in their own minds, but Nadene was a Legend in her own time. She was 74 at the time of her death, but she was at the apex of her skills and her riding career. To know Nadene was to know that the only time you could find her...in pretty much any kind of weather...was on a ride somewhere. She was a fixture on the Three Flags classic, which she had ridden every year since 1993. She had ridden the Four Corners ride, and you knew that you would find her at every HSTA STAR, no matter where in the country it was held. When Nan and I walked into the hotel at the Oklahoma STAR, the first person we ran into was Nadene. I asked her which route she took to get there, and she said "From the east coast." She had friends there, so she rode over to see them before turning around and riding back to Oklahoma. That was Nadene. In the same year, I placed fifth in the long distance riders recognition at the Rose City Motorcycle Club's annual banquet with 25,000 miles. Nadene was third with 29,000 miles. That was Nadene. The mix of people who attended her memorial service attested to the person that she was, and to how many lives she had touched. The room was crowded, with people spilling out into the hallway, and the testimonies to her life affirmed that she was not only a hero to the many riders in attendance, but to the people in other walks of life of which she was a part. She was as passionate about African Violets as she was about motorcycling, and her involvement in the Ashland Shakespeare Festival and DePaul Treatment Center for Adolescents spoke about her own passion for life. Not only motorcyclists looked at Nadene as being their hero. Other people in her life spoke of how they looked up to Nadene and their admiration for her independent spirit. Her children recounted many humorous incidents in Nadene and her husband Frank's lives (he passed away in 1997), and many of them involved their love of motorcycling. In 1966 she learned to ride on a 160cc Honda scrambler owned by her son. In order to buy her own first motorcycle she took a paper route--while her children were still in school. She was fortunate enough to have a husband who shared her love of motorcycling around the United States, so they used every bit of his vacation time every year to explore the country. Irene Frost, a fellow member of the Rose City Motorcycle Club and PC800 rider, probably summed it up best at the memorial service when she said to me, "Nadene's who I want to be like when I grow up." God Speed, Nadene. We love you, we miss you, and you will be with us on every ride that we take. Tim Macy Newberg, OR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:12:07 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Fw: PC800: April Fool Smarties Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:04:36 -0400 > > You folks are so smart! Almost everyone saw right through me, but I > > just had to do it since I didn't see anyone else going for it. Or > > did they? > > > You Bugger! Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:16:12 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 4/2/00 9:55:17 AM Central Daylight Time, tom.freed@home.com writes: << Harvey, I too need a fold-up trailer. I've got about 3 ft of space between the bumper of the Fiat Spider (no rust) and the garage door. Will it stand in three ft of floor space? I'm not sure I want to pay the bucks but if I look at what I payed for the PC + the trailer I'm way ahead of the Harley guys! Regards, Tom >> Say guys, I just ordered a cycle-mate CM2000 trailer from trailmasterinc.com. Preceedeing the delivery of the trailer,I have received a product flyer from them. The Kendon fold up's (3 models) are all 24" wide when folded to their storage position. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:21:09 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "PC800 Rider" Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Floorboards for a PC? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:21:10 -0700 In June of 1991 at HSTA Star in Mammoth Lakes CA, Honda brought a factory 1989 PC800 with a number of custom accessory items on it including one of the first Corbin Seats and I believe it had floor boards. Perhaps Roger Prince will remember it. Of course, people interested in the PC were pretty interested in that one and the "special" accessories. I wonder what ever happened to that bike? Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: Re(2): PC800: Floorboards for a PC? >fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >>At 11:28 AM -0500 4/2/00, Dave Steven wrote: >>>I've checked the archives looking to see if anyone has adapted >>any sort of >>>"floorboard" to the PC in lieu of pegs. No luck! >>> >>>Has anyone tried this? Successes? Failures? >>> >> >> >>Someone has done this to an 89 PC800, but he doesn't have internet >>access. I saw his bike at last years Honda Homecoming. There was >>a >>note on it telling people that he had retro-fit the floorboards >>for >>less than $150 if I remember correctly. I didn't write the >>number >>down, but I seem to remember that the area code was 330, which is >>Akron, OH I believe. >> >>They looked pretty good overall. The boards were on levers so >>they >>would bend up out of the way if you were cornering too low. >> >>Any Akron people out there? Keep your eyes open for an 89 and >>find >>out more info. >> >>fsl :-) >> >>Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >>Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda >> >> HSTA Member Number 7470 >> >I saw the floorboards on the same bike at the 1998 Honda >Homecoming, but I don't have the owners information either. If you >check out this picture >http://www.sfcs.k12.ny.us/~pc800/HHPictures9.html I believe he is >the person on the far left of this photo next to me. I don't have >any other photo, this one came from Dena Plaschka (Rob just have >taken it because Dena it the second from the right in the photo) > >I do remember it looked like a quality job and he said it was not >difficult. Sorry to say I did not ask to sit on his bike to try >them out. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E4PA34UJ; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 17:41:34 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:25:19 -0400 Subject: PC800: Floorboards for a PC? From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Floorboards? Why not just get some big-ass running boards and put them all the way around? Some of these even come with lights in them! ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA (Riding again!) (I added a few more pictures to my PC page today.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 21:53:43 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 13:53:54 -0700 From: B Pickett To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: need help with part numbers Jim, GARNISH, SCREEN *R201* (MAGNA RED) ...... 64110-MR5-800ZB RUBBER, ADJUSTER CUSHION ................ 77258-MR5-000 Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: > > I would like to order a body part via the internet to save a few dollars, but > I need the part number. My local dealer will not give out the info. (He is > not my "dealer" as since that day I have not given my one cent, but that is > another story) > Anyway I am looking for the WINDSCREEN GARNISH page 2-8 Service Manual > and ADJUSTING RUBBERS page 2-26 Service Manual. Body part is needed in 96 RED. > Thanks in advance as always, > Ride Safe > Jim T > Beachwood, NJ > 1996 PC800 40K > Corbin > Clearview Plus 3 > Givi E460 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 18:20:06 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: PC800 Rider CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: April Fool Smarties Tim, Well, I for one fell for it. My basic reaction was - "Gee, I thought from his posts that he was a pretty intelligent guy - Guess not!" Steve :-) PC800 Rider wrote: > You folks are so smart! Almost everyone saw right through me, but I > just had to do it since I didn't see anyone else going for it. Or > did they? > > Funny thing is the barbershop part was true... I'll have to > remember to park with the Yankee Smuggler's motorcycle front end > facing out and its scooter rear end toward the building:-) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:24:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Bushings (was:Tach going nuts) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:24:44 -0500 That bushing person would be me. I still haven't gotten my buddy to make them up yet. I will hit him up again this week and see if I can't get him on the ball. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "PC800" Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: PC800: Tach going nuts > Hi all, > > Thanks for the replies. Here's another question that I was reminded of... > > A couple of months ago, a lister posted that he/she had a PC800 that when > the rider or passenger got on, it made a noise. This was attributed to > brushings(?) that they were going to make replacements for. > > Does anyone remember this? > > Russ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 18:28:42 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: tom.freed@home.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering Tom, I have a folding trailer. Bought it out of the J.C. Whitney catalog a few years back. Price $200.00 - Capacity 1500# - comes in a large heavy box and must be bolted together and wired. It stands against the wall and projects about 18" with the wheels removed. I bought a bracket for the motorcycle front wheel and some tie downs. That's all it takes. Steve DeLorey "tom.freed" wrote: > Harvey, > > I too need a fold-up trailer. I've got about 3 ft of space between the > bumper of the Fiat Spider (no rust) and the garage door. Will it stand in > three ft of floor space? I'm not sure I want to pay the bucks but if I look > at what I payed for the PC + the trailer I'm way ahead of the Harley guys! > > Regards, > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Harvey P. Sattin > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:43 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering > > Tom, > > I have a Kendon Stand-up trailer. > I bought it used. Although its only a couple of years old, the previous > owner kept it hidden in a swampy area behind his house. The powder-coat > finish rusted badly. I've used it a dozen times already and I must say > it's light, easy to use and tows like it's not even there. I needed a > fold-up trailer because I live in the city and had no place to keep a > conventional trailer. If I had a place to store a larger trailer I > wouldn't pay the bigger bucks for the Kendon. I plan to refinish it this > summer and I'm keeping it. > > Having the PC lean over as far as it does on its sidestand makes it more > stable. > If it were more upright I'd worry about it. > > ~Harvey Sattin > Brookline, MA > > tom.freed@home.com writes: > >Hi All, > > > >Have only had the PC for about a year now and noticed the PC seems > >to lean > >excessively when parked on the kickstand. Is this normal or a > >design for > >shorter riders! > > >Also, any feedback on good trailers. I was looking at the Kendon. > >http://www.kendontrailers.com/cgi-bin/kendon.storefront > > > >Thanks, > > > >Tom Freed > >Columbia MD > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoffer Carstanjen Subject: PC800: Does anyone use the "chat"? To: pc800 mailing list PC800'ers, Do you think we have enough critical mass to use the chat feature on: http://members.tripod.com/pc800/ - of which this list is based off of? or should we use AOL's AIM - (BTW I am christoffer67-I will try to leave it on at work, but I need to do work-type things) or am I dreaming? or is there an alternative - or do I need to get a life... :-) I think the biggest April Fools joke was no one telling me to reset my clock - late for golf today - Doh!! ===== Christoffer Carstanjen - (soon to have a) 98PC800 in The Pioneer Valley, of Massachusetts, USA --I know the price of success: dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen.- Frank Lloyd Wright --The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves,but wiser people, so full of doubts.- B Russell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Does anyone use the "chat"? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:26:01 +0200 >From: Christoffer Carstanjen >Sent: maandag 3 april 2000 1:47 >Do you think we have enough critical mass to use the >chat feature on: http://members.tripod.com/pc800/ - >of which this list is based off of >Christoffer Carstanjen - (soon to have a) 98PC800 in The Pioneer Valley, of Massachusetts, USA Hi Christoffer, welcome to the list. We've used the chat box on that site, now better know as http://pc800.net a few times in the past. We did that by picking a day and time. Biggest problem was agreeing on a time so everybody worldwide would still be awake. I remember one time having to stay up until 0400 AM or so... We could just set a date and time again and see if there still is some interest. BTW, the list isn't based of that site, it's based of this one: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800 One alternative next to the conventional chatbox is the chatbox that also has the online possibility for voice contact. You can talk by pressing a button or by typing in the chatbox, so those without microphones don't need to worry as long as they have a soundcard and speakers to listen to those with microphones. I just set one of those voice/chat boxes up on my own site: http://fly.to/emile (click hear me) Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:55:45 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Does anyone use the "chat"? > >One alternative next to the conventional chatbox is the >chatbox that also has the online possibility for voice contact. >You can talk by pressing a button or by typing in the chatbox, >so those without microphones don't need to worry as long as >they have a soundcard and speakers to listen to those with >microphones. I just set one of those voice/chat boxes up on >my own site: http://fly.to/emile >(click hear me) > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" >http://fly.to/emile >http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site > ICQ could also be an idea...we would all know if someone was on at the same time..then could chat directly......???....just my canadain 2 cents (.11375705 U.S. cents) Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89' PC800 ICQ # 1695900 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:17:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Front brakes & wheel bearings David Kelly writes: > Suck the old brake fluid out. If the pads are worn and the rotors > need replacing, the brake fluid does too. I usually go thru at least > 2 changes of brake fluid per set of pads on most every vehicle I've > owned. I would advise replacing the hydraulic fluid in both the brake and clutch cylinders annually, especially if the bike has been laid up for the winter. If you live in a damp climate, consider changing twice a year; in the southwestern desert you might be able to get away with every other year. Brake fluid absorbs moisture over time, which makes it both less effective and encourages corrosion in the brake system. If the fluid in the inspection window is any color other than clear, your fluid needs changing. A bottle of DOT4 brake fluid is cheap (under $4, even for synthetic), and the job can be done in less than an hour. It's time for my annual warning (learned the hard way on my first PC): Brake fluid is extremely toxic to PC body plastic, and a single drop can reduce the strength of the plastic to approximately that of a Girl Scout cookie. I don't know why Honda doesn't warn about this in either the owner's manual or the shop manual. Changing the hydraulic fluid is not inherently difficult, and doesn't require special tools, just plenty of care to avoid spills. I tape plastic film, then newspaper over the plastic parts that could be hit in a spill, and I keep a roll of paper towels, a garden hose and a bottle of Dawn dishwashing liquid at hand. If, despite precautions, you spill some hydraulic fluid on a plastic panel, squeeze on some Dawn, then hose down with copious amounts of water. A few drops of hydraulic can literally do a thousand dollars worth of damage in a few seconds. David's tip of sucking the old fluid out of the reservoir is good advice. Suck the reservoir dry, put in some fresh fluid (but don't top it off), then bleed the hydraulic lines a few times and top off the master cylinders with fresh fluid. If you work carefully, you can attach a bleeder hose to the clutch fitting without removing any body work except the small access panel over the left footpeg. The front brakes require partial disassembly of the front wheel plastic on older PC's; on 97/98 models, the bleeder fittings should be accessible without removing any plastic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: 297664469 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:22:02 -0700 If my memory is correct, this is probably the fourth time that this particular PC has been listed on eBay.. Please don't ask me anything more about it... I know nothing additional. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800 Illinois **************** -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: PC800: 297664469 >The above referenced item on eBay is a Pacific Coast motorcycle. > >I have no connection to the seller; just noticed it. > >It is in Illinois. > > >Lee Barker >95 Pacific Coast "Secondo con Brio" >60 Cushman Eagle >51 Cushman Roadking Tubular > >"And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, >he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in >mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: New 90 PC in group Will Edwards writes: > What we missed and didn't noticed until almost home is that the right > fork seal is leaking and will have to be replaced. Wished the mechanic > at Taylor's had caught it while doing the tire change, could have got > the seal done also. We thought about doing it ourselves, but Bob is > just going to have a local dealer do the work, estimated at about > $200.00. I checked Daniel's Repair & Maintenance log, there does not > seem to be any common mileage for the fork seals to start leaking. Seals can go at 10,000 or 100,000 miles, or anywhere in between. It pays to remove dried bug splats after any long ride; I wrap a piece of cloth or a paper towel around each fork tube, then pour on some boiling water and let it soak for 10 minutes to soften up old bug guts. If the bike is going to be laid up for any period of time, spray the (clean) fork tubes with WD40 or similar to discourage pitting. Any roughness on the chromed tubes can lead to chewing up the seals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:41:06 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Draggin' Jeans Near where I grew up in NC, there is a company that puts Kevlar inserts in blue jeans. They claim it makes a big improvement in abrasion protection. They also make shirts made out of Kelvar. Has anyone had any experience with their products? Thanks. Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Atkins Subject: Re: PC800: Draggin' Jeans To: Ron Russell , pc800@hpc.uh.edu I seem to recall reading a review in the last year. I think the view was they were better than jeans, but not as good as protective leathers or synthetic riding clothes. Does this ring a bell for anyone? Paul --- Ron Russell wrote: > Near where I grew up in NC, there is a company that > puts Kevlar inserts > in blue jeans. They claim it makes a big > improvement in abrasion > protection. They also make shirts made out of > Kelvar. Has anyone had > any experience with their products? Thanks. > > Ron > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:10:38 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: PC800: PC business card Thanks for the patience of all of you while I educated myself on the capabilities of my software. I have successfully sent the design via e-mail to about 20 of you and Fred Lamoureux sent me back a JPEG image that works well. So if anybody else would like a copy of the design, let me know. I will try to send them out once per day, my political science research paper permitting. I got a couple of comments that the image of the bike looked more like an ST1100, but that was the closest one I could find. If any of you are aspiring artists and would like to improve on the likeness, I'm sure we'd all be appreciative. I'm glad you guys liked the design. --Ralph Couey Columbia, Missouri Yes, I know the sun is out and the temp is up but my rough draft is due on Tuesday. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: ride narrative/quote of the week Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:35:27 -0700 That subject heading was just to entice you into another boring ride narrative, but embedded in it is my nomination for the PC quote of the week. Unable to connect with any of the eastern northwestern PCers, I lit out on a solo jaunt today. 210 miles total. 49.63 mpg. I went east to Prineville and on over the Ochoco Mountains to Mitchell. On the top there was snow in shady patches here and there, but no road obstructions save a few cinder piles. Nice riding. I met a rider coming my way, at the top. Mr. Harley tough guy, just a shirt. How insecure he must have been to be working so hard to show he is tough. >From Mitchell I went north to Service Creek, crossing the John Day river in the process. From there I headed back west to Fossil, where I saw some old people. Thence across the river again at Clarno (blink), through Antelope where I saw both residents out working in their neighboring yards, up the little 8 mile chicane to Shaniko (pop. 25) where I lunched at the great little hotel there. I had to put up with two clean, loudmouthed Harley guys there (that's really an exaggeration). But they were loud and walked about so all would see their shiny new leathers. They had backed their bikes in to park so the exhausts pointed right at the door of the restaurant. They had a brief conversation with a table of four older people as they were leaving. I left shortly thereafter, stopping at that same table to say, "There go two of the world's fastest tractors." The timing was serendipitously wonderful. They kicked em and they flatulated and barked and roared as I was suiting up. I was glad they left by another road. (No, that's not the quote. Keep reading.) I followed two trucks down Cow Canyon. The smell of burning brakes hung low in the still air. I ambled through Madras and was home midafternoon, thinking about mowing but not really caring to. The point of the story: It took over a hundred miles before I was a part of the bike as opposed to riding on the bike. And what a clear transition it was: from edging into corners and correcting, to fluid downshifts, the occasional brake blip, looking deep into the turns, and all the stuff that makes the ballet. It was a good trip to do alone or I might have missed the reflective portion of the education that was taking place. Re-education would be a better word. Ok, ok, you've been patient. I was getting gas. Young kid attendant. High school, looked like a fun sort of dude. He just stared at the bike until he finally said, "Is this an aftermarket body kit you put on your bike?" "No," I responded. "It is stock." I was tending to not splashing fuel on the shelter. He circled Secondo like a cat, finally hunkering down to study the air intakes in front. I know he read the decals. Will they think it is just a deferred April Fool gag tomorrow at school when he starts talking about the Honda/Tupperware motorcycle he saw? Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo con Brio" 60 Cushman Eagle 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: Up with Handlebars! Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 19:06:57 -0700 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT I am now claiming the North American record for tallest raising of Pacific Coast handlebars. I made a new set of my hardrock maple risers and raised the bar for bar raising... (trumpet fanfare) One and a half inches. Until challenged, I think it is the record. I am counting on Francois to enter my record in Ottowa: 38mm. Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo con Brio" 60 Cushman Eagle 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 22:20:37 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Draggin' Jeans To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I bought a pair of Draggin' Jeans in 1998 and I did not like them. They were a bit too heavy for my liking, although the Kevlar panels were soft against my skin, and I wasn't happy with the cut of them. I found the extra fabric in the seat to be uncomfortable on my Corbin seat after not too long a ride. The firmness of the Corbin accentuates every seam and fold of fabric in what ever pants you are wearing. I sold them to a fellow list member, whose name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he was from Minn. or Wis. somewhere in that general area. He used to sign his email "Buns of Kevlar" after he got them. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" patkins99@yahoo.com writes: >I seem to recall reading a review in the last year. I >think the view was they were better than jeans, but >not as good as protective leathers or synthetic riding >clothes. Does this ring a bell for anyone? >Paul > >--- Ron Russell wrote: >> Near where I grew up in NC, there is a company that >> puts Kevlar inserts >> in blue jeans. They claim it makes a big >> improvement in abrasion >> protection. They also make shirts made out of >> Kelvar. Has anyone had >> any experience with their products? Thanks. >> >> Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:07:19 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Draggin' Jeans Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:07:30 -0700 Motorcycle Consumer News did a review of Kevlar enhanced jeans a while back. They were less enthusiastic about Draggin Jeans then Two Brothers (I believe that was the other brand). They did not like the fit of Draggin jeans. There did not endorse either product as a great enhancement to safety over "real" riding gear. Better then plain jeans, however. Draggin has a refutation of the MCN article on their web site. Guess they like to call attention to the fact that is an unfavorable review their product. Rick Sequim, WA ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PC800 Rider" To: Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:20 PM Subject: Re(2): PC800: Draggin' Jeans > I bought a pair of Draggin' Jeans in 1998 and I did not like them. > They were a bit too heavy for my liking, although the Kevlar panels > were soft against my skin, and I wasn't happy with the cut of them. > I found the extra fabric in the seat to be uncomfortable on my > Corbin seat after not too long a ride. The firmness of the Corbin > accentuates every seam and fold of fabric in what ever pants you > are wearing. > > I sold them to a fellow list member, whose name escapes me at the > moment, but I believe he was from Minn. or Wis. somewhere in that > general area. He used to sign his email "Buns of Kevlar" after he > got them. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > > patkins99@yahoo.com writes: > >I seem to recall reading a review in the last year. I > >think the view was they were better than jeans, but > >not as good as protective leathers or synthetic riding > >clothes. Does this ring a bell for anyone? > >Paul > > > >--- Ron Russell wrote: > >> Near where I grew up in NC, there is a company that > >> puts Kevlar inserts > >> in blue jeans. They claim it makes a big > >> improvement in abrasion > >> protection. They also make shirts made out of > >> Kelvar. Has anyone had > >> any experience with their products? Thanks. > >> > >> Ron > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Kickstand & Trailering Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:13:56 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom.freed" I too need a fold-up trailer. I've got about 3 ft of space between the bumper of the Fiat Spider (no rust) and the garage door. Will it stand in three ft of floor space? I'm not sure I want to pay the bucks but if I look at what I paid for the PC + the trailer I'm way ahead of the Harley guys! Not in the market for a trailer, but this post reminded me of an ad in The Oregonian (Portland, OR) today: '97 Kindon motorcycle trailer, compact folding stand-up for 1-3 bikes, never used. $995 Lake Oswego, OR (503)639-8358. Hope this helps someone. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" , "National HSTA" , "Listserve Northern Califorina" Subject: PC800: Hwy 101 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:31:10 -0700 Rhoda and I rode down 101 on the Oregon coast today. The place north of Florence is open. There were big flashing highway signs starting 35 miles north of where the hwy had been closed saying it was open and giving the hours it is open, today it was from 12PM until 6:30PM. It is single lane through the area, with a pilot car. It may change between now and next weekend for anybody going south that way. It took us 1/2 hour to get through there, traffic was backed up about 3/4 of a mile. We were stopped twice before it was our turn to go through, so plan accordingly. By the way if you are coming from the north you will find yourself stopping on a hill and more then likely right in the middle of or at the end of a good curve. Road has a steep incline towards the inside apex of the curve so you might want to forget about sitting there with the side stand down. Now for the good news, if you are headed north up 101 and you get to that area, the road conditions (incline, curve, etc) are the same for you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:29:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Sad Circumstances... "Tim Macy" writes: > She was 74 at the time of her death, but she was at the apex of > her skills and her riding career. This is the way I would like to go. I dread the day when I will be too enfeebled to ride, and would much rather go out in this fashion, were I to be given a choice. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:00:35 -0400 From: Dana Sawyer Subject: PC800: Honda PC800 Pacific Coast note cards for sale! To: "INTERNET:hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu" , Pacific Coast list charset=ISO-8859-1 Limited supply - order today - not available anywhere else! Size - 4 1/2" x 6 1/4"...printed on white vellum stock...envelopes included. Front panel shows a shaded line drawing of a '90 Pacific Coast. Underneath is ad copy entitled "The Essence of Motorcycling" - 12 lines o= f copy. Reason for selling - I have sold my '97 Pacific Coast and bought a '98 VF= R! Price - $3.50 for 10 card w/envelopes. Postage $.50. Special - while they last, get 5 extra cards for free! That's 15 cards with envelopes for $4.00... Dana Sawyer Founder - HSTA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AJDOBBS@aol.com for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:25:07 EDT Subject: PC800: PC Trailer Hitch for Sale (NEARLY NEW!) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello Everyone, I am selling my Pacific Coast Trailer Hitch. It is a Trailmaster (HitchDoc) Hitch purchased June 1999 for $209.00 + shipping. I now have a Bushtec trailer that requires a Heim joint hitch thus, I am selling my original hitch. It is just under 10 months old and has not been used very much. I will accept a reasonable offer plus shipping costs. The entire assembly is in perfect condition. All original instructions - included. The unit installs in 30 minutes. I will also include a 3/4" drill bit which is then only item needed but not included from the factory for installation. (It cost me $16.00.) I have 8 pictures on a WEB Page. The hitch can be seen at: http://trailerhitch.homestead.com/TrailerHitch.html If you have any interest of questions I can be reached by e-mail: ajdobbs@aol.com or call A.J. Dobbs @ 914-591-7579. Thank you, A.J. Dobbs '94 PC w/ Bushtec Trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:35:18 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Rotating (adjusting) the handlebars To answer the question to the email I just accidently deleted, YES, I've adjusted the handlebars (rotated them back) and I liked the result. Remove the plastic cover at the center of the handlebars, loosen the 4 bolts, move the handlebars and retighten the bolts. I moved mine as far back as they'd go without the plastic on the handlebars contacting the plastic cover plates just in front of the top shelter ("fuel tank"). best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 06:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Draggin' Jeans To: PC800 That was Rodney Carey. He is no longer on the list. Bought a ST1100 last year. He was wearing them last year when we met, he liked the Dragging Jeans very much. --- PC800 Rider wrote: > I sold them to a fellow list member, whose name > escapes me at the > moment, but I believe he was from Minn. or Wis. > somewhere in that > general area. He used to sign his email "Buns of > Kevlar" after he > got them. > ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - Red Alert PCOG/PCOC #74, HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:38:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" Cc: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Front tire questions Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:39:28 -0500 After doing some more reading this weekend, I found a tire mfg. site that said the cupping on one of their tires was less than on other tires because of the tread pattern. The cuts were more front to rear than side to side. I still believe the rider is the biggest factor in tire wear but I guess the tire does make a difference. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Selden Deemer" To: "Steve Wilson" Cc: "PC 800 List" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:36 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Front tire questions > The Holiday Inn experience would probably do it. Heavy braking was one > of the possible reasons cited in the post that I saw re BT54 tires and > VFRs. And yes, I do sometimes engage in heavy braking in the mountains. > I guess I'd rather change tires than habits. :) > > I know a guy with a Ducati 888 who says he generally gets about 6 > weekends out of a set of tires. I've seen his tires, and I believe it. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Steve Wilson wrote: > > > Isn't the cupping on the front tire just a natural result of heavy > > braking as the tread bends to the rear of the bike and the leading edge > > of the tread is worn off quicker than the rear edge? I would think the > > cupping would be a result of the way the bike is ridden more than what > > tire is used. No I'm not a tire engineer but I did sleep at a Holiday > > Inn Express once. > > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: New PCs on CarBuyer Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:37:14 -0700 Here are two PCs that just appeared on CarBuyer this weekend. > ======================================================= > 1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 $5595 in La Conner, WA > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=124529 > > ======================================================= > > ======================================================= > 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 $5500 in Avondale, AZ > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=124341 > > ======================================================= > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > "We are all ignorant, > Its just that each of us doesn't know different things" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:06:43 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Draggin' Jeans Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:06:39 +0200 > From: Coverts[SMTP:coverts@olympus.net] > Motorcycle Consumer News did a review of Kevlar enhanced jeans a = while > back. > There did not endorse either product as a great enhancement to safety = over > "real" riding gear. Better then plain jeans, however. > Rick Sequim, WA >He used to sign his email "Buns of Kevlar" after he > > got them. > > Tim Davies > >>Has anyone had > > >> any experience with their products? Thanks. > > >> Ron >=20 The "buns of kevlar" guy is Rod Carey, he was also taken by the dark = side. I have a kevlar-reinforced-jeans test here in a Dutch magazine that's very similar and with the same outcome as the MCN test. I translated it a while back, it's pasted below. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 Result of the test: DECEPTIVE SAFETY >> I've got an article here where they tested kevlar-reinforced denim = jeans and jackets. They tested it's 'crashworthiness' by dressing an editor in these suits = and than dragging him behind a car over asphalt, while he was hanging on to a rope, = turning his body in=20 various positions to test all the sides. He wore a leather combi = beneath the suit (and a helmet) to protect him. They started out with a testtrack of 50 meters and wanted to make a full pull to a maximum of 50 km/h (30mph). After a few = testruns the test-jeans were showing so much damage after 20 meter, with the speed up to 15 = km/h (9 mph), that futher pulling was not necessary. So they shortened the test track = to 25 meters with speed up to 15km/h / 9mph (9MPH!!!!!!!!!!!). The end results were so bad, that they didn't have the usual testwinner = or best buy. The conclusion was that these kevlar reinforced jeans only gave a fake safety appearance, there are only bad and less bad suits. It's better than regular jeans, = but hey, 9mph is not even bicycle speed. They also state that it's better to have tight = fitting suits and that a lot of buttons on the suit (jacket) don't help in protection. >>> So be aware. Looking back it isn't that strange because kevlar is = mainly very good in taking hits and bullets, but the 'scraping' protection isn't good at = all compared to leather, cordura and Taslan. It will soften the fall on the = concrete, but not the scraping. This is the value of normal denim: >> "In studies of 'survivability' of various garment materials to a 50 MPH = ride on asphalt, for example, denim lasted no more than FOUR FEET before wearing = through. Kevlar, on the other hand, lasted EIGHTEEN FEET. But standard = motorcycle quality (about three times heavier than fashion jacket material) lasted = EIGHTY-SIX FEET. That's more than 20 times as effective as your jeans in protecting your hide. [The tests were reported in the September 1988 issue of Cycle = magazine.] " This is what Dainese says about Cordura: The exterior is exclusively in Cordura=AE 500, which laboratory tests = have shown is 4 times more resistant to wear than nylon, and 20 times than linen-finished cotton. It is resistant to wear and tear, humidity, and friction. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:47 -0400 Subject: PC800: Part number for color-matched GIVI E460 - for 1998 Red PC Does anyone have the part number for a GIVI E460 top case that is color matched for a 1998 PC (red). I think there are a few people on the list that have these. Thanks, Joel Barlow 98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Ousley" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Part number for color-matched GIVI E460 - for 1998 Red PC Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:53:18 -0400 The part # you are looking for is E460R300 Jim Ousley ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:56 PM Subject: PC800: Part number for color-matched GIVI E460 - for 1998 Red PC > > > Does anyone have the part number for a GIVI E460 top case that is color matched > for a 1998 PC (red). > > I think there are a few people on the list that have these. > > Thanks, > Joel Barlow > 98 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:44:20 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Part number for color-matched GIVI E460 - for 1998 Red PC To: jbarlow@telcordia.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jbarlow@telcordia.com writes: >Does anyone have the part number for a GIVI E460 top case that is >color matched >for a 1998 PC (red). > >I think there are a few people on the list that have these. > >Thanks, >Joel Barlow >98 PC800 There is no color match to the Honda red of 1998. It comes close, and there is only one choice, so just order the only red available from Givi. I had mine repainted by a local body shop, using Color Rite's Honda Magna Red, for an exact match before I had it pinstriped to match the rest of my bike. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Ousley" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Givi E460 Colors Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:09:36 -0400 There are two red E460 GIVI E460R300 -- Comes pretty close to matching the 1996-98 PC E460R301-- Comes pretty close to matching the 1990 PC If you want a PERFECT match you will have to get it painted. Jim Ousley rider@eastky.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:53:28 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re-tiring time Steve Wilson wrote: > > Last week I ordered a new Metzler ME880 140x80x15 for the back of my PC. > I went yesterday to pick it up and was amazed at how much smaller the > Metzler was than my worn out Dunlop. The Dunlop was 1/4 taller (and that > is without tread) and the Dunlop was 15 millimeters wider. 136 for the > Metzler and 151 for the Dunlop. Here's a question for the list: Could all or part of the difference in diameter be attributed to streching/centrifugal growth through out the life of the tire? I never thought of measuring or comparing the old vs. new tires during changeover. Just a thought. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85�N, Long.: 147.72�W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MCGWHIZZ@aol.com for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:01:45 EDT Subject: PC800: Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: hpc.edu: host not found) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu 14:06:32 -0500 rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:04:52 -0500 by imo12.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with internal id OAA18087; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: hpc.edu: host not found) To: MCGWHIZZ@aol.com Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) --OAA18087.954785092/imo12.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:37 -0400 (EDT) from root@localhost *** ATTENTION *** An e-mail you sent to an Internet destination could not be delivered. 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Host unknown (Name server: hpc.edu: host not found) --OAA18087.954785092/imo12.mx.aol.com Final-Recipient: RFC822; pc800@hpc.edu Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; hpc.edu Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) --OAA18087.954785092/imo12.mx.aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id j.ae.33b00e4 (4398) for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Return-path: MCGWHIZZ@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MCGWHIZZ@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:04:37 EDT Subject: Fork Oil To: pc800@hpc.edu Anyone have any insights/info on either the interval for changing the fork or oil similar information. The service manual that my mechanic has does not address this question. If someone refers me to "archives," please be so kind as to' include the email address for same. Also, if anyone has had any experience with Sargent seat rebuilds (mine has gone soft....) and has any opinions (wrong word on THIS list !!), would also like to hear from you. Thanks Mark 96 in Texas --OAA18087.954785092/imo12.mx.aol.com-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:41:58 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "W. C. Morrison" To: Subject: PC800: Need help. Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:23:27 -0500 I am a new subscriber to the PC800 list and need help. For almost two years my 1990 PC800 has been in almost total storage without any stabilizer in the gas tank. Now, when I start it, it runs fine up to about 3000 rpm. Above that it backfires about every two or three seconds. My diagnosis is that the high-speed jets in the carbs are partially plugged. I have tried adding the recommended amount of carburetor cleaner to the gas and ridden the bike at various engine speeds above 3000 rpm for about 50 miles. This made no improvement. It appears that the jet adjustment screws are behind plugs that can not be removed with the carbs on the engine. Does anyone have a better explanation for the cause of the problem? Has anyone solved such a problem without removing the carburetors from the engine? Does anyone have an untested solution to the problem? W. C. Morrison Fredericksburg, Texas wenmor@fbg.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , , , Subject: Re: PC800: Handlebar rotation? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:01:33 -0400 Russ; > By the time we make it=20 > out to your neck of the woods, there might not be none of you left! Thanks for the great laugh at the end of a long day!! Poor Lee is going = to be worried about offering any insightful snippets in the future about = his negative growth pattern. Sounds like you'll have a lot of fun when you do get together. Enjoy! Elton K. Hammond=20 97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada http://209.195.117.74/elton/Motorcycling.html ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; ; Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Handlebar rotation? > In a message dated 3/30/00 11:03:26 PM Mountain Standard Time,=20 > greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: >=20 > << BTW, I am 6'0 and shrinking, slightly longer in the trunk than = average. > =20 > Lee Barker >> > Dang, Lee! Yathink mebbie we outta have this here motosikle ride out = to your=20 > parts a bit sooner then we first planned? I mean, you abeing 60 years = OLD and=20 > all and shrinking up on us and all knowwhutimasaying? By the time we = make it=20 > out to your neck of the woods, there might not be none of you left! >=20 > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >=20 Lee is=20 going to be worried about offering any insightful snippets in the future = about=20 his negative growth pattern.

Sounds like you'll have a lot of fun when you do get = together. =20 Enjoy!

Elton K. Hammond

97 PC800

Ottawa, Canada

http://209.195.117= .74/elton/Motorcycling.html

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> In a message dated 3/30/00 11:03:26 PM Mountain = Standard=20 Time,
> greatned@cascade.quik.com=20 writes:
>
> << BTW, I am 6'0 and shrinking, slightly = longer=20 in the trunk than average.
>
> Lee Barker=20 >>
> Dang, Lee! Yathink mebbie we outta have this here = motosikle=20 ride out to your
> parts a bit sooner then we first planned? I = mean, you=20 abeing 60 years OLD and
> all and shrinking up on us and all=20 knowwhutimasaying? By the time we make it
> out to your neck of = the=20 woods, there might not be none of you left!
>
> Russ = Vernon
>=20 --
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>= ;=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:07:42 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: "W. C. Morrison" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need help. W.C. My guess would be water condensate in the gas, some of which has gotten into the carburetor. I got a tank of gas with water in it - had the same effect. Solution - drain the tank and the float chambers, replace with fresh gas. That might be all that is necessary. On mine I had to disconnect the fuel line and force fresh gas through the carburetor under pressure to get the water out. CAUTION - The fuel pump will continue to pump if the engine is cranking so have the fuel line connected to a large container or you'll have gas all over the place. Steve DeLorey "W. C. Morrison" wrote: > I am a new subscriber to the PC800 list and need help. > > For almost two years my 1990 PC800 has been in almost total storage without > any stabilizer in the gas tank. Now, when I start it, it runs fine up to > about 3000 rpm. Above that it backfires about every two or three seconds. > My diagnosis is that the high-speed jets in the carbs are partially plugged. > I have tried adding the recommended amount of carburetor cleaner to the gas > and ridden the bike at various engine speeds above 3000 rpm for about 50 > miles. This made no improvement. It appears that the jet adjustment screws > are behind plugs that can not be removed with the carbs on the engine. > > Does anyone have a better explanation for the cause of the problem? > > Has anyone solved such a problem without removing the carburetors from the > engine? > > Does anyone have an untested solution to the problem? > > W. C. Morrison > Fredericksburg, Texas > wenmor@fbg.net > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:28:59 -0400 Subject: PC800: Rider Magazine Article To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I finally received my May 2000 Rider magazine in the mail today and the article about the Finger Lakes is all true. Any Coasters out there who want to make a trip this way to check it out for yourselves are welcome to stay at my place in Seneca Falls. While we don't have the mountain twisties that some yearn for, we do have lots of nice scenery along the roads. That's one thing I miss on those mountain roller coaster rides. Some day I'll have to go back to Deal's Gap to see if there is more to the scenery than just a yellow line down the center of the road. I think the only thing I scraped on those curves was my eyeballs on that line:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:57:38 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: PC800: Party @ TIMS At 05:28 PM 4/3/00 -0400, you wrote: > Any Coasters out >there who want to make a trip this way to check it out for >yourselves are welcome to stay at my place in Seneca Falls. >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > Alright everybody...party at Tims this summer!!!!!!!!!!! "BYOPC"...how many people on this list?? :) Tim...I may just take you up on your offer... Greg Castle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 77df2db80a2bdce4d335ff4839618d42) for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:44:20 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: FS:1996 Honda Pacific Coast ,465 miles !! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:43:22 +0200 Found in GWRRA Member Classified Ads: For Sale 1996 Honda Pacific Coast - Lexington, KY 16:11:36 4/03/00 1996 Honda Pacific Coast. Red. Like New with only 465 miles. That's right only 465 miles. No extras, just like it came from the factory. don.adams@home.com Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: NWHPCTA ride Sunday, N/A Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:10:37 PDT ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" I guess I won't be available Sunday, my folks are camping in Blaine, Wa and called wanting a visit. Also, no one cut my lawn for me while I was out riding Friday & Saturday. Will, you're delusional again. Our kids are living in the house (and the one next door) that we vacated in Portland when we moved to Newberg, and they think it's our duty to cut their lawn! Fat Chance... As anticipated, Nan was called out at 4:30AM Sunday morning by an impending birth at the hospital, so she decided to work on charts at her office across the street while awaiting the blessed event. I didn't feel much like doing the Oregon 250 without her because it's an event we always do together and...well...I didn't want to do it without her. As I was also still pretty bummed about Nadine's passing, I spent the morning coddling myself and vegetating. Nan got home about 1PM and the day had turned delicious so we shirked all other responsibilities and did our own Oregon 250. Rode down to Tillamook on Hwy 6 and then rode north on 101 to Twin Rocks, where we checked out a site for the family reunion that we're hosting in 2003. It was a gorgeous day on the coast, with just a hint of chill in the air from the wind coming in from the northwest over the water. We ended up in Oceanside at a very nice little restaurant where we became the first riders this year to get their stamp in our Rose City Grand Tour booklet. Had an early dinner at a window table overlooking the Pacific and enjoyed each other's unencumbered company. Then we cruised south on 101 to Hebo, where we caught my favorite valley-to-coast road in the northern Coastal Range...Hwy 22. It was blessedly empty of day-trippers, so we had the ride up to Hwy 18 all to ourselves. Lovely scenery and tasty curves. Got home at about 7PM after 225 miles and proclaimed it a good day. The vote was unanimous. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 111K and On My Way "When the chips are down, the cow is empty." - anonymous ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:40:14 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:40:12 -0700 From: Neillnsteph CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: FS:1996 Honda Pacific Coast ,465 miles !! Don Adams? Agent 86? Get Smart??? He should have gotten smart! Anybody who only puts on that many miles in that many years needs help! Arvid L�vik wrote: > > Found in GWRRA Member Classified Ads: > > For Sale > 1996 Honda Pacific Coast - Lexington, KY 16:11:36 4/03/00 > 1996 Honda Pacific Coast. Red. Like New with only 465 miles. That's right > only 465 miles. No extras, just like it came from the factory. > don.adams@home.com > > Arvid > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:38:48 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Thanks to Emile & simple Battery replacement Just a quick thanks to Emile Nossin and his "Battery removal, the 10-step quick and easy way" http://go.to/pc800 http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/battery.html The method worked like a champ, and except for much fussing trying to get the little battery terminal screws threaded back into those little nuts that keep falling out, everything went well. I got an Exide battery from Pep Boys (discount automotive store). The acid came in a "6-pack" that you turn upside down and press in place to fill the battery. Then tap the seals onto the battery and voila!, a sealed battery. It's charging now, so I'll get a chance to try it out tonight. best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Battery replacement Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 05:57:09 -0700 except for much fussing trying to get the little battery terminal screws threaded back into those little nuts that keep falling out, everything went well. > Just thinking about that: Suppose you finally got the bolts snugged up. Then you packed a little silicone into the "nut housing." Would that keep the little nipper there for the next time? Could it be prized out when the battery needed to go to the great home of low amperage in the sky? Anybody tried this? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ed Roberts" To: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Battery replacement Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:11:15 -0700 I cut a piece of plastic tubing about a half inch long and wedge it between the battery and nut, works like a charm. Ed Roberts Hickory, Pa -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker