********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ29C98V; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:15:25 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:59 -0700 Subject: PC800: PEG LEG VISION BRACKET BUYERS BEWARE: I do NOT warranty the brackets or their installation. You buy and install them at your own risk. I do not have time to support them in any way. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. I can only attest to my own satisfaction with them. I deserve no credit for the design and the only part of the installation I did was measuring and cutting the holes in the covers, which is to say anyone can do it. NEXT: Several asked where to view the pegs and brackets. This post is to answer everyone with one email. For those uninterested parties, please delete now (curse later), do not pass go (stop) and do not collect $200. The rest of you should go to Jim Randall's website to see the brackets, the pegs, their attachment to the PCee and read the installation procedures at the same time. In fact, if I were you, I'd print Jim's schtuff for future reference!! http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/pegs/pegs.html LAST WORD: Bruce W.. the machinst, will be by my work tomorrow afternoon to pick up the angle iron stock and some seed corn (incentive, money). I've no idea how long it will take him to make 20 sets. I will try to mail them out within 48 hours of receipt. I will enclose an SASE for you to return your payment to me. By then I'll know if they're $10 or $15 a set including shipping. PATIENCE GRASSHOPPERS! Ann Tue. 2.29.2000 23:10 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:32:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:32:36 -0700 From: Neillnsteph To: PC800 list Subject: PC800: Can anybody find me a part number? One of the little threaded rubber bumper gizmos in the under side of the trunk lid self-destructed on me. Does anybody know the part number? I tried to explain it to the guy at HondaMil but he had no idea what I was talking about. I feel a little bad about going to my local dealer and asking him to look up the number so I can order it from someone else (but not bad enough that I want to pay their higher prices). I got a bunch of parts from HondaMil today. One of the parts had been mis-labeled so it has to go back. The part number was off by one letter. It made a huge difference. It was the right part but from the wrong bike. Instead of getting a lower cowl for a '94 PC I got a lower cowl from a Gold Wing. The part was HUGE! It looks like it could have fit on a car it was so wide. They are going to have UPS pick it up and they are ordering me a new one. I still have some other parts on back order so I think I'll try and add a few minor parts to the order while I'm waiting. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bne004m.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 07:48:25 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Chuck Chiodini" , "Linda Schleman" , "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: Re: PC800: Painting our PC Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 17:53:38 PST Yes I did go thru all that, and got a great deal finally by taking the = cheapest quote. I gave the 7 panels from the Helix to a local guy, never = saw his work area as I went only to his house, and he sprayed a recent = Jaguar metallic red "two pack" paint for $270oz, thats about $170usa. Bet= ween all the talk I had with Chuck, and he was VERY helpfull, I never fig= ured out what "two pac" means in Oz. It is a paint that has a hardner in = it, like fiberglass. I dont know if they use that in USA or what they cal= l it. It is the most expensive type of painting here. When I showed off = the paint job to the garage guy who reccommended the paintee I used, i = asked him....so if this is the $270 job.....what do you get for the $700 = job(my highest quote). He said....."ripped off!!" Thats my story. Ive been using the Helix every day the 2 months since pai= nting, and one scratch cause I insist on parking and moving around betwee= n the 5 bikes in my garage.....must have bumped one. But this is a user = bike not a show bike, and one cant worry about that stuff. He gave me an = extra jar of paint....Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch ---------- > 7. Ron Grant, Australian world traveling motorcyclist, just had a scoot= er > painted and has gone through the entire process, perhaps he'll add some > comments as well? Ron, you out there? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by horizon2.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 07:48:56 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Thomas Ongstad" , "Chuck Chiodini" Cc: "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: Re: PC800: Painting our PC Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 18:07:25 PST Hey you guys ! I have an ADD I cut out of a Yankee paper that has a paint= job for a car for $169....and the DELUX job is $199! I think this IS Sheib....or something like that. It looked like a franchi= se place with branches. I wonder what you GET for that? In spite of MY cheap job story, a friend just paid $5000 as well as MANY = hours of sanding BEFORE he gave up his 62 Cadillac to the painter, and = that was a regular white paint job! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch ---------- > Thank you Chuck for the informative piece. It goes into my permanent > file. > > BTW, how many of you remember Earl Sheibs (sp?) "I'll paint any car, = any > style, for $29.95"? He he he. Even in the 60's, you could afford a = new > paint job every other week. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Neillnsteph" , "PC800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: Can anybody find me a part number? Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:58:39 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Neillnsteph To: PC800 list Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: PC800: Can anybody find me a part number? > One of the little threaded rubber bumper gizmos in the under side of the > trunk lid self-destructed on me. Does anybody know the part number? sure, microfiche page 148 item 7 rubber adjuster cushion 77258-mr5-000 3140589 hth Russ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. PASSED! part1 '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" Landrover Discovery V8i "un-named" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:35:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:35:53 EST Subject: PC800: windshield... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Don't all wing riders look through the shield? And also voyager riders... Why is it so uncomfortable for us? I do feel like I have gotten somewhat used to it because most of the time that is what I do so far...Anyone ride a gold wing? Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike" To: "pc800" , Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:45:36 -0500 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:36 AM Subject: PC800: windshield... >Don't all wing riders look through the shield? And also voyager riders... >Why is it so uncomfortable for us? I do feel like I have gotten somewhat >used to it because most of the time that is what I do so far...Anyone ride a >gold wing? Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? Dan Dan, With the windscreen at the lowest setting I just look over mine...It is adjustable and can be moved up of course. I might take an inch off mine. Big Bike Parts (ShowChrome) makes an adjustable backrest for GoldWings that has corrected my back pain. Had the 2000 GL1500SE since the 16th of Feb and already have 1500 miles on it:) Looking through the shield is no big deal unless it fogs up or rains, then you might find your self standing up on your pegs:) The optical quality of the Wing's screen is excellent. My PC is sold, so I'm an ex owner now...the Wing is not that much of a pig around town so I couldn't justify keeping both bikes...also running out of room in the garage:( If anyone knows of a Goldwing list similar to the pc800 list, please let me know, I plan to monitor both. I think the Wing will be my last bike (until Honda comes out with an improved version) LOL Regards, Dr. Mike Hardee Tampa, FL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:26:25 EST Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... To: Ridr44@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/1/00 2:37:05 AM Mountain Standard Time, Ridr44@aol.com writes: << Anyone ride a gold wing? Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? Dan >> Hi Dan. It always make me feel like I am looking through dirty eye glasses when I have to look through a windshield. Even a new clean one. Being able to look over the top of the windshield I like. BUT, I like to be able to "scrunch" down behind it when caught in a rainstorm too. I just like having the ability to do both. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "'PC800'" Subject: Re: PC800: windshield Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:36:29 -0800 Bruce, You forgot to tell him the tip you gave me about using an magnet next to the bolts & screws while removing them to help prevent from dropping them down into the dark void of the fairing. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D >D >>Windscreen removal/installation: >- remove both mirrors >- remove two self-tapping screws and air duct louver >- remove two socket bolts and windshield garnish >- remove five screws and collars from windscreen frame (remember their order, too) >- remove windscreen frame, screen and rubber seat >- reassemble in reverse order > >> From: Ridr44@aol.com[SMTP:Ridr44@aol.com] >> looking through the shield. I am thinking of trying the original with some >> sange edging. Any thoughts? And, how do I change the shield? The >> alternative would be to cut the shield but I thought it might be wiser to try -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Job" , Subject: Re: PC800: windshield Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:46:21 -0800 I think you should go for six windshields, and try a Clearview. If it doesn't work, at least you can start your own windshield store. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Job >I now have 5 windshields for the PC800: > >Original; >Original with Stealth Edging; >Hondaline Tall Windshield; >Ermax (4 inches taller with a 'flip up' curve at the top) >Original with about 4 inches cut away (still waiting for a hot Summer) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 15:24:37 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: "pc800" Cc: "Mike" Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:50:05 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:45:36 -0500, "Mike" wrote: >If anyone knows of a >Goldwing list similar to the pc800 list, please let me know, I plan to >monitor both. http://www.armchair.mb.ca/wings -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:23:46 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:32:23 -0600 Dan, I have a '95 Goldwing. I put a Tulsa 'shield on it last spring and it was fantastic. I didn't mind looking through the 'shield at all. In the rain it kept the rain from hitting me. That is helpful in my opinion, but vision through a wet 'shield and visor is ????. At high speeds the Tulsa is fantastic. The only bad thing that I will say about my Tulsa is that with it being so large and tilted back so far you can hurt yourself when getting on the bike. Once when I had it at the Honda dealership for a new tire the mechanic who worked on it had a large gash on his nose when I talked to him after the job. Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:35 AM Subject: PC800: windshield... > Don't all wing riders look through the shield? And also voyager riders... > Why is it so uncomfortable for us? I do feel like I have gotten somewhat > used to it because most of the time that is what I do so far...Anyone ride a > gold wing? Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? Dan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 16:04:46 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:30:14 -0500 So, where is the cheapest place to order the honda trunk light kit from? Take care, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:31:09 -0600 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: One Ride Every *400* Years Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I hate to correct Tim, but yesterday was a one in every *400* years ride... Does anyone else know why this is so, and why my statement *is* correct??? If you don't believe me.... See below.... The following is excerpted from: http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/cal_art.htm In the Gregorian Calendar a year is a leap year if either (i) it is= divisible by 4 but not by 100 or (ii) it is divisible by 400. In other words, a year which is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not= by 400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not. Therefore, the year 2000 being a leap year, was a "one in every 400 years" event... (which made it even more special...) Rich Fenwick Champaign, IL=20 1990 PC800 ***************** At 05:30 PM 02/29/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Today was the day for me to take the Yankee Smuggler out for some >exercise. 45 degrees F (7=B0 C) and sunny, I couldn't resist. Plus >that makes at least one day each month since winter set in that I >have gone out. Last time was New Year's Day 2000. I decided today >would be the best day since it only comes around once every 4 years >and that makes it extra special. I'm sure you "sunbirds" will not >understand any of this, maybe the date thing, but you "winter rats" >will know the feelling. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/cal_a= rt.htm

In the Gregorian Calendar a year is a leap year if either (i) it is divisible by 4 but not by 100 or (ii) it is divisible by 400. In other words, a year which is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not by 400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not.

Therefore, the year 2000 being a leap year, was a "one in every 400 years" event... (which made it even more special...)

Rich Fenwick
Champaign, IL
1990 PC800

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At 05:30 PM 02/29/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Today was the day for me to take the Yankee Smuggler out for some
>exercise. 45 degrees F (7=B0 C) and sunny, I couldn't resist.=20 Plus
>that makes at least one day each month since winter set in that I
>have gone out. Last time was New Year's Day 2000. I decided today
>would be the best day since it only comes around once every 4 years
>and that makes it extra special. I'm sure you "sunbirds" will not
>understand any of this, maybe the date thing, but you "winter rats"
>will know the feelling.
>
>Tim Davies
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler"
>
>AMA #688662
>HSTA #8387
>HRCA #HM100878
>
>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
>--
>Visit the PC800 web page at <URL:http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/>
>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a
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>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vartan Kazarov" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:00:30 PST Folks, Please help me decide between those two. I am kinda leaning towards Kriss starburst modulator, the most expensive of their line. Do you think that their lower priced models, FCD and ECM, will suffice? Thanks, Vartan -- Vartan Kazarov 98PC800 "Red October" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'KGray96057@aol.com'" Cc: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: That damned battery Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:05:18 -0800 With Phil Lewis' help, I learned a couple of tricks. 1) I would highly recommend that you charge the battery yourself. Have them put in the acid and seal the battery but take ownership immediately after you see the acid go in. IMPORTANT: Let the battery sit for at least 24 hrs before charging. I'm not sure why (I don't understand the "soak" angle) but the battery experts recommend this and I'm willing to take their advice. I'm on my fourth battery and have never been able to take this step myself. I attribute my bad luck with batteries to (perhaps) skipping this step :-}. 2) Taking the battery out the first time is far more difficult than the 2nd etc. This is not always because of experience but because the battery "sticks" to the pan making it difficult to pry out. We've done this in the dark with minimal tools with a flashlight in under 10 minutes (see the SCPCRC trip reports). You just have to know what to pry loose and how far things will bend etc :-). 3) This next tip is hard to describe but I'll try because it really makes re-attaching the (+) battery lead much easier. With the battery out, take a hard look at the nuts embedded in the battery posts. You will see they have LOTS of play. This will make screwing in the bolt (once the battery is in place) almost impossible. Phil took a small piece of plastic (as in lunch bag plastic) and folded it several times until you have a little square about the right size to stick in BEHIND that nut. It holds the nut in place when you are fiddling with the bolt getting it started. Hope all this helps some! I'll be very interested in your update to the battery report :-). Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:36:07 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: RE: PC800: That damned battery To: PC800 Another idea would be to get a trailer. Run some heavy gauge wire to the trailer and just attach the battery on top of the trailer, hook up the battery and you have easy, instant access to your battery at any time. ;-() ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:38:26 -0500 To: "Spain, Harrison" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: That damned battery Cc: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:05 AM -0800 3/1/00, Spain, Harrison wrote: > >3) This next tip is hard to describe but I'll try because it really makes >re-attaching the (+) battery lead much easier. With the battery out, take a >hard look at the nuts embedded in the battery posts. You will see they have >LOTS of play. This will make screwing in the bolt (once the battery is in >place) almost impossible. Phil took a small piece of plastic (as in lunch >bag plastic) and folded it several times until you have a little square >about the right size to stick in BEHIND that nut. It holds the nut in place >when you are fiddling with the bolt getting it started. > When I removed and reinstalled my battery I discovered that the positive lead was long enough to attach to the battery while the battery was still out of the bike. I placed a wooden block on the right rear passenger peg, and rested the battery on this block, sort of leaning in towards the bike. I then attached the positive lead to the battery, and *then* I put the battery in its location, and simply attached the negative lead. As others have posted, I also remember that the instructions with the battery told me to let the acid sit overnight before charging the battery. After I put the acid in I did check with a meter and it was putting out about 8 volts. Kendall Gray wrote that he had absolutely no charge on his new battery, and that the battery looked old. I suspect that Sears gave him the wrong battery, or the incompetent sales person he dealt with forgot to put *in* the acid pack.... I've had a car dealer do the same to me before. So Kendall....let us know the outcome! Ride safe...if you can get your PC started! fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ4HC6HY; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:54:25 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vkazarov@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:52:52 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Vartan, I have the Kriss HM10SP-1 which I bought as a result of much research and the advice of many others who have headlight modulators. My opinion, therefore, reflects the opinions of many others. My Kriss works well and I am happy with it. Others who have bought the Kisan seem to like it also. Strange thing though, here in Massachusetts, I have not yet seen another motorcycle with a modulating headlight. Riding a PC evokes enough attention and questions as it is, but adding the headlight modulator draws even more questions. I even had a cop tell me that my headlight was flashing. When I explained it to him he just went on his way. Good luck with whatever you decide to use. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA (Snow's gone!) '98 PC800 http://members.xoom.com/hsattin/pc800.htm On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:00:30 PST "Vartan Kazarov" writes: > Folks, > > Please help me decide between those two. I am kinda leaning towards > Kriss > starburst modulator, the most expensive of their line. Do you think > that > their lower priced models, FCD and ECM, will suffice? > > Thanks, > > Vartan > > -- > Vartan Kazarov > 98PC800 "Red October" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:14:14 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... Ridr44@aol.com wrote: > Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? I don't ride a Wing, but on all of my bikes I've made sure I could look over the shield. Rain and fog are bad enough, but when you get to a road construction site, then you have mud and sand to contend with as well. It is a matter of personal preference and regional practice. I've met several european world travelers that use their winshields as the place to display all of their stickers of places visited, because "you are supposed to look over the windshield anyway." Go with whatever you feel comfortable with, just be aware of the limitations on either case. Good luck! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:15:07 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: Ridr44@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield... I look through my Rifle shield all the time and it doesn't bother me. Guess it's just what you are used to. Tony Ridr44@aol.com wrote: > > Don't all wing riders look through the shield? And also voyager riders... > Why is it so uncomfortable for us? I do feel like I have gotten somewhat > used to it because most of the time that is what I do so far...Anyone ride a > gold wing? Do you look through the shield? How does it feel...? Dan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:34:32 -0800 (PST) From: Scot Piper Subject: PC800: CA info. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This message is for those who live in CA or have rode there. I'll be taking a 4 day business trip to San Francisco in April - first time to the west coast. Looks like an excellent opportunity to ride the PC-1 going north - or is it better going south from San Francisco? Is anyone aware of motorcycle rental options in the San Francisco area and can you make recommendations on riding the PC-1? Does CA have a helmet law? Thanks. Scot Piper former '89 PC-800 owner Freeland, Michigan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: CA info. Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:44:00 -0800 Scot, Yes, California does have a helmet law. I live a little north east of Sacramento, so I don't have a San Francisco phone book handy, but there is a motorcycle rental place in San Francisco. They may concentrate mostly on Harleys though. I have seen their ads when I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area (Fremont), but have never been there. Maybe one of the others on the list could look that up for you. They should supply helmets there. I would go north from San Francisco on CA1, only because it seems a bit less traveled than going south, but either way is nice. I was one of the 3 people (out of 8) who made the complete trip on our pre-Y2K checkout ride for the up and comming Y2K ride this September. There is plenty of sharp twisty shoulderless road going either direction from San Francisco. Probably the best time would be to travel during the week instead of the weekend, especially in the summer months, but at this time of the year there shouldn't be too many slow moving tourists traveling on CA1. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Scot Piper > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:34 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: CA info. > > This message is for those who live in CA or have rode > there. > > I'll be taking a 4 day business trip to San Francisco > in April - first time to the west coast. Looks like > an excellent opportunity to ride the PC-1 going north > - or is it better going south from San Francisco? Is > anyone aware of motorcycle rental options in the San > Francisco area and can you make recommendations on > riding the PC-1? Does CA have a helmet law? > > Thanks. > > Scot Piper > former '89 PC-800 owner > Freeland, Michigan > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com via smtpd (for sjc3-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.122]) with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 18:44:58 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:42:06 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: CA info. Definitly go north. Yes, California has a helmet law. Scot Piper on 03/01/2000 10:34:32 AM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: CA info. This message is for those who live in CA or have rode there. I'll be taking a 4 day business trip to San Francisco in April - first time to the west coast. Looks like an excellent opportunity to ride the PC-1 going north - or is it better going south from San Francisco? Is anyone aware of motorcycle rental options in the San Francisco area and can you make recommendations on riding the PC-1? Does CA have a helmet law? Thanks. Scot Piper former '89 PC-800 owner Freeland, Michigan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PCListserve" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:00:59 -0800 From: "Irene Frost" X-Sent-Mail: on Subject: Re: PC800: 94 PC tall windshield and passenger backrest for sale X-Sender-Ip: 170.160.9.3 Content-Language: en Hey dood....technically since I gave you 1 tall windshield for 2 short ones, and if you count total windshield inches, you are only down 1/2 of 1 windshield. You do the math ;-) And actually you can have the second one back if ya want since I am really happy with the one with the stuff glued around it, so that is the one I will keep on the bike. I sometimes miss the tall one on the hiway, but not at ALL in the twisties. Steve and I are still sorting out how to get away from the kids and managerie of pets for the Spring Fling AND the Colorado trip - hope to see you and Rhoda soon. Irene -- On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:25:48 John & Rhoda Strode wrote: >And I gave away two windshields. Boy did I lose money. Your Welcome Irene. > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:15:21 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: CA info. Scot Piper wrote: > Is anyone aware of motorcycle rental options in the San > Francisco area Cruise America Motorhome Rntl 796 66th Ave Oakland, CA Phone Number 510-639-7125 Dubbleju Motorcycle Rentals <--- Only one I have *indirect* experience with. 271 Clara St Nice guy, rents BMWs San Francisco, CA Phone Number 415-495-2774 Eaglerider Motorcycle Rental 1555 Burke Ave # O San Francisco, CA Phone Number 415-647-9898 Harley Motorcycle Rental 650 Irwin St San Rafael, CA Phone Number 415-456-9910 > and can you make recommendations on > riding the PC-1? Check the Y2K ride page for route recomendations. http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html Enjoy! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:29:24 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800 Rider" , "R. Fenwick" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:08:50 -0600 From: "Bradley D Herndon" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-Sent-Mail: on Subject: Re: PC800: One Ride Every *400* Years X-Sender-Ip: 206.50.170.2 Content-Language: en You guys have got way too much time on your hands! -- On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:31:09 R. Fenwick wrote: >I hate to correct Tim, but yesterday was a one in every *400* years ride... > >Does anyone else know why this is so, and why my statement *is* correct??? > >If you don't believe me.... See below.... > >The following is excerpted from: >http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/cal_art.htm > >In the Gregorian Calendar a year is a leap year if either (i) it is divisible >by 4 but not by 100 or (ii) it is divisible by 400. In other words, a year >which is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not by >400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are >leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not. > >Therefore, the year 2000 being a leap year, was a "one in every 400 years" >event... (which made it even more special...) > >Rich Fenwick >Champaign, IL >1990 PC800 > >***************** > >At 05:30 PM 02/29/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>Today was the day for me to take the Yankee Smuggler out for some >>exercise. 45 degrees F (70 C) and sunny, I couldn't resist. Plus >>that makes at least one day each month since winter set in that I >>have gone out. Last time was New Year's Day 2000. I decided today >>would be the best day since it only comes around once every 4 years >>and that makes it extra special. I'm sure you "sunbirds" will not >>understand any of this, maybe the date thing, but you "winter rats" >>will know the feelling. >> >>Tim Davies >>Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >>'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" >> >>AMA #688662 >>HSTA #8387 >>HRCA #HM100878 >> >>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "Ron Kimball" , Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:45:41 -0800 Make your own, you can buy interior lights, with on/off switch, at Walmart or parts store, run the wiring thru an in line fuse, if you have not installed a car fuse block, I mounted mine on trunk lid ..strap all wiring down and wal la,,,,all done.. Doug A 94 KNight Rider -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: PC800: Trunk Light Kit >So, where is the cheapest place to order the honda trunk light kit from? > >Take care, >Ron >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 21:23:40 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:49:06 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:45:41 -0800, "Doug" wrote: >Make your own, you can buy interior lights, with on/off switch, at Walmart >or parts store, run the wiring thru an in line fuse, if you have not >installed a car fuse block, I mounted mine on trunk lid ..strap all wiring >down and wal la,,,,all done.. >Doug A >94 KNight Rider Well, as far as Honda ripoffs go, this one isn't that bad and it is kind of cool to have the "real thing". :-) Take care, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:56:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:56:32 EST Subject: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Coasters: It's March 1st, a day late, and 70+ degrees in NC. Good day for a ride and spring clean. I went to my local Suzuki dealer because I can't stand the Honda dealership and the other is closer. Bought 4 qts of 4 stroke 10W-40 ($2.50/qt) a Fram oil filter ($10) and changed the oil for the 1st time since break-in on my 96! Question: recomended oil interval is 4K. I do that in a about a year. Any thoughts on letting oil sit for that long, especially in the winter when I don't use the bike as often? Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. I might get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and I don't think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, front tire looks great! Question: Is anyone else going through back tires that quickly? Has Dunlop changed materials? Other explanations??? Rob Cary NC 96 PC w/5.5 K 89 PC w/43 K (4 Sale) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:05:36 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Trunk Light Kit To: ron@frodo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <8h0rbssj32bbkmbgonhm670rmdackp77vq@4ax.com> ron@frodo.com writes: >On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:45:41 -0800, "Doug" wrote: > >>Make your own, you can buy interior lights, with on/off switch, >at Walmart >>or parts store, run the wiring thru an in line fuse, if you have >not >>installed a car fuse block, I mounted mine on trunk lid ..strap >all wiring >>down and wal la,,,,all done.. >>Doug A >>94 KNight Rider > >Well, as far as Honda ripoffs go, this one isn't that bad and it >is kind of >cool to have the "real thing". :-) > >Take care, >Ron Honda of Milpitas 408-263-6060 08162-MR500 Trunk Light Kit $28.60 It is a wonderful add on and worth twice the price. Don't even consider puttsing around with off the shelf automotive parts and cobb together lights for your trunk. This gives you a top notch professional installation for under $30 and you get a light for each half of the trunk. I hope you can still get them. A word to the wise here, as I said last year, if you don't order them soon you may be out of luck. I'm sure they won't be around for long. Look at all the other Honda PC800 accessories that were discontinued even before the bike was discontinued. > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 22:40:48 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: annreid@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Subject: Re: PC800: PEG LEG VISION Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:06:13 -0500 On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:59 -0700, annreid@juno.com wrote: >I will enclose an SASE >for you to return your payment to me. By then I'll know if they're $10 >or $15 a set including shipping. Hey, if you sign up at: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ron%40frodo.com you get $10 free, can accept credit cards for free (no fees even!), and you get $10 free for each of your customers that pay via the PayPal service (if they are new to PayPal, they also get $10 free!). I've been ordering stuff for my PC800 all day and trying to get those "little guys" who can't take plastic to go though PayPal. I've been using this service for my own small business and it is great! Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 22:47:49 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: ROBJHALL@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:13:14 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:56:32 EST, ROBJHALL@aol.com wrote: >Question: recomended oil interval is 4K. I do that in a about a year. Any >thoughts on letting oil sit for that long, especially in the winter when I >don't use the bike as often? Trick is to change it just before you put it away for the winter... >Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. I might >get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and I don't >think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, front tire >looks great! My PC800 got 25K on each of two sets of K177s in it's life so far, I hear the K555s aren't near as good, could be this is your difference? I'm switching to ME880s (can't get the K177s anymore), just ordered a set from MAW for $175, hell of a deal I think? Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:22:22 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Perini To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: bye pacific coasters, sold my 90 today - sigh signing off for now maybe i'll pick up the 2001 model and sign back on thanks to everyone for helping me out with my PC800 troubles (few as they may have been) and the entertaining email exchange sean (just a pedestrian now) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: "'Ron Kimball'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:24:51 -0800 Does anyone know the expected mileage with ME880s? I just put a set of Metsler ME880s on (140 on the rear and they seem to work great so far. I bought mine on-line through motorcyclemart.com http://www.motorcyclemart.com/tires.htm I was told that the ML2s/Marathons, etc. are no longer available. Strangely, Metsler's own web site does not even list the "new"? ME880s, the ML2s or Marathons mentioned in the PC800 archives. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: Jeff Krause Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:28:09 -0800 Sorry, too much beer on the job. Those are Metzlers, not Metslers! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 23:13:09 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:38:33 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:28:09 -0800 , Jeff Krause wrote: >Sorry, too much beer on the job. Those are Metzlers, not Metslers! Still wrong, Metzelers. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:38:29 EST Subject: Re: PC800: That damned battery To: rogerries@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu A trailer? That might not be such a bad idea... I could put me a mess'o batteries on that sucker. Have the Great Pacific Coast Travelling Light Show and Circus :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 23:18:48 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:44:13 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:24:51 -0800 , Jeff Krause wrote: >Does anyone know the expected mileage with ME880s? >I just put a set of Metsler ME880s on (140 on the rear >and they seem to work great so far. Is that a 140/80 or 140/90 ? I ordered a 150/90, wish me luck in clearance! Wanted to raise the gearing and load rating as much as possible... >I bought mine on-line through motorcyclemart.com >http://www.motorcyclemart.com/tires.htm MAW is cheaper... >I was told that the ML2s/Marathons, etc. are no longer available. >Strangely, Metsler's own web site does not even list the "new"? >ME880s, the ML2s or Marathons mentioned in the PC800 archives. ME880s are there, well hidden. The ML2s, ME88s, Marathons are all older versions of the ME880s (I think?). Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Ron's big 140/90 tire. Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:16:47 -0800 I mounted the 140/90 ME880 on a 95 PC and it works fine, even with the shocks set to full-soft (though I am 195 lbs.) So nice ride without every slight camber ripple in the road making it twitch (due to the flat-profile worn into the middle of the old Dunlops). Handling is razor-sharp for now. I hope they last a while. Jeff Krause 95 blk/slver, 30K -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball [mailto:ron@frodo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:44 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Is that a 140/80 or 140/90 ? I ordered a 150/90, wish me luck in clearance! Wanted to raise the gearing and load rating as much as possible... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: Re: PC800:Dem Tires Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:44:30 -0500 Hi listers, Over the past few months I had my 89 PC800 kinda disassembled as part of a project. I had Chuck Chiodini repair my tank shroud, crashbar covers and a formerly red small type front fender All painted the 89 PC colors. This was interesting making a 97 fender fit a 89. I sawed all those bosses off the fork sliders. then ground them flat and sanded smooth. Sprayed the sliders dark smoked gray. Had a fender clamp made to mount them. Then had new tires mounted. Metzler 880 stock size in rear and a Bridgestone radial ZR 120/70/17 in front (only $76) and new EBC brake pads. I also dropped the front forks about 10mm in the tripple trees. Ride is smooth, cornering is almost by thought, brakes haul it down real good. and I installed thise Randall Forward footmpeg mounts. I got the cut angle iron [ieces from him and used a dremel tool to grind all around the crashbar wheere the install was going. Then with hose clamps and alot of J & B Weld I put some on clamped on the mount and then covering the whole area in J & B weld.icluding the hose clamps. New foot pegs bolted on and It's great having a really fresh bike and new tires and it all works perfectly. I do admit that being 5' 11" the forward footpeg is a bit sort for my size. for someone 5'9 or smaller it would be greater. BTW my high beams used to hit too high with the dropped forks a bit and that slightly smaller diameter front tire the high beams are perfect now. HA I got the idea for Radial Battle AX BT57 radial in front from Selden Deemer...He ain't your ordinary librarian. Riding with 31k mi and doing fine. Randy in GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:45:55 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Personal Warm+Cool System Wearable Peltier Effect Climate Control - Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:46:52 +0100 Now it's easy to keep warm in winter AND cool in summer !!!! http://www.sharperimage.com/ProductDisplay.jsp?name=3DSI531 Who'll be the first on the list with a ride report ?? Regards Arvid Tosays word of wisdom: A good rider has balance, judgment, and good timing. So does a good = lover. (AMEN!!!)=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" , "Irene Frost" Subject: Re: PC800: 94 PC tall windshield and passenger backrest for sale Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:57:16 -0800 What took you so long to figure that out? Been waiting all day for you to jump on that! What day you headed out for the Spring Fling. Which Colorado thing are you taking about? Are you going to make it to Prineville? Pendleton? J&P's Ride? Oregon Camp Out? Eureka? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:30:15 -0500 To: Ron Kimball From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 5:44 PM -0500 3/1/00, Ron Kimball wrote: > >Is that a 140/80 or 140/90 ? I ordered a 150/90, wish me luck in clearance! >Wanted to raise the gearing and load rating as much as possible... wow... a major good luck to you Ron. I remember when I put the ME880 in the 140/80-15 onto Tim Davies bike, and the clearance was pretty minimal. I figure the place it is most likely to rub is on the front section of the swingarm or at the top of the tire against the trunk liner on the left side. Keep us posted.... I am also interested in going up a size next time around. Ride safe.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:45:26 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: That damned battery Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:25:46 -0600 Complete with clown! :-} Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: > A trailer? > > That might not be such a bad idea... I could put me a mess'o batteries on > that sucker. Have the Great Pacific Coast Travelling Light Show and Circus :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:49:56 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Metzeler 880 The Metzeler 880 arrived today; it's going to sit for a while, so that I can do the shocks and the tire at the same time. Granted, it's not inflated, but the tire is noticeably narrower than the K555, which leads me to think that a 150/80HB15 Metzeler 880 would fit on a PC without clearance problems in the wheel well. My eyeball measurement, using a yardstick, is 6" width for the K555 currently on the bike vs 5.5" for the ME880. Any of you with a ME880 already mounted care to measure and report the tread width? If the mounted tire measures the same as I have reported, and any of you are in the market for a new rear tire *AND* you have a chance to make comparison measurements between a 150/80HB15 with 140/80HB15 (better yet, compare with a K555) at a dealer, this might be worth looking into. The load rating for the ME880 is only 577 pounds at 42 psi; I suspect that a 150 would have a higher load rating. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:20:17 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires ROBJHALL@aol.com wrote: > Bought 4 qts of 4 stroke 10W-40 > ($2.50/qt) a Fram oil filter ($10) and changed the oil for the 1st time since > break-in on my 96! FWIW, and not saying that we shouldn't support our local dealers, Shucks Auto has Fram PH6017A filters for $5.99 a piece. I also cleaned them out of their supply of Mobil 1 M/C oil ($6.74/qt). They are phasing it out because it didn't sell well. Gee, really? They offer it to the public at (initialy) outrageous prices and introduce it in the fall, in Fairbanks, Alaska. Why did it have slow sales? DUH! > Question: recomended oil interval is 4K. I do that in a about a year. Any > thoughts on letting oil sit for that long, especially in the winter when I > don't use the bike as often? I am now a believer that the best indicator for oil changes is operating time, not mileage and/or time, which are compromises at best. I hope to have an hour meter installed this spring and change the oil every 50 hours of engine operation, or not beyond 4 months - one riding season :( -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:38:14 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: Personal Warm+Cool System > Arvid Løvik wrote: > > Now it's easy to keep warm in winter AND cool in summer !!!! Same principle (electronic heat pump) as the one used in the now-defunct climate controlled helmet. Does any list member own one of these helmets (or know someone who does)? Just curious. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 02:32:58 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:58:16 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:30:15 -0500, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: >>Is that a 140/80 or 140/90 ? I ordered a 150/90, wish me luck in clearance! >>Wanted to raise the gearing and load rating as much as possible... >wow... a major good luck to you Ron. Hey, no guts, no glory. >I remember when I put the ME880 >in the 140/80-15 onto Tim Davies bike, and the clearance was pretty >minimal. Someone here once said there was 1 cm clearance at the swingarm front with the 140, the 150 only adds 1/2 cm (so says the chart). The width is only 5mm more on a side, so that's 1/2 cm too. >I figure the place it is most likely to rub is on the front >section of the swingarm or at the top of the tire against the trunk >liner on the left side. Thanks, I'll check for the latter... >Keep us posted.... I am also interested in going up a size next time around. Yah, I figured we'd all like to get them rev's down. This should be a big change from the 140/80. I've got a trip from Massachusetts to Houston planned for this year. In August :-) Speaking of Houston in August, anybody have suggestions as to how to keep from dying of heatstroke on that trip? I'm ordering some helmets in white for starters, get some smoke sheilds for them. I'll probably get an old windshield and cut it down to minimum, too. Get some of those neck coolers... Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:02:36 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Ron Kimball wrote: > Speaking of Houston in August, anybody have suggestions as to how to keep > from dying of heatstroke on that trip? I'm ordering some helmets in white > for starters, get some smoke sheilds for them. I'll probably get an old > windshield and cut it down to minimum, too. > Get some of those neck coolers... Get good riding gear with lots and lots of vents, a personal hydration system, like a Camelback or similar. Since the neck coolers work by water evaporation, I doubt they will do you much good in the high humidity of Houston. You could place them in the freezer for a while after getting them wet :) Ask Jason, our wise and benevolent list master, for more tips. He lives in Houston. Good luck! -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Dark Side Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:23:25 -0500 Browsing this list for the past few months has induced me to check out = the Dark Side (Especially Emile chiming in with the ST this and the ST = that). Anyway, the wife and I have tried out a few bikes over the past couple = weeks. We had already tried an ST before buying the PC and did not like = it for two up as well as the PC. Still, with all the talk of the PC's = low power and the ST's abundance, we went looking for another answer to = our motorcycling 'needs'. 1) We tried a K1100LT first. Seemed like the perfect choice. Faster = (if only a few hundredth's of a second) than the ST. Sure would love to = rub that in on Emile. Hmm. Removable bags. Radio. Light by Touring = Standards. I liked the power and the electric screen. But, the bike = was rough. I didn't expect such a buzzy bike from BMW. Worse than the = Bandit 1200 I traded off in 98. 2) So, we tried a Gold Wing. The wife loved it. I enjoyed it but could = not seriously consider it for a serious mount. Too single minded of = purpose. Riding position sucks. Goodbye twisties. I'll pass. 3) Ducati ST2 or ST4? Wife would not get on them. 4) R1100RT? Way too much money. 5) VFR800. I loved it. Wife hated it. I had to admit that it was not = as practical as the PC. 6) We even looked at the Shadow Ace Tourer. Each time it felt good to get back on the PC and we both developed a = deeper appreciation for the bike. Still, it would be nice to have about = 75 or 80 ponies at the rear wheel. Bill & Helen Jarrells -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 03:06:12 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Dark Side Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:31:31 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:23:25 -0500, "Bill Jarrells" wrote: >Each time it felt good to get back on the PC and we both developed a deeper >appreciation for the bike. Still, it would be nice to have about 75 or 80 >ponies at the rear wheel. So, swap in a 1100 motor from the big Shadow. ;-) Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: One Ride Every *400* Years Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:22:47 -0000 Any PC800s in the US of A affected by the Y2K Leap Year Bug ?! Job > > On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:31:09 R. Fenwick wrote: > >I hate to correct Tim, but yesterday was a one in every *400* years ride... > >Does anyone else know why this is so, and why my statement *is* correct??? > > >If you don't believe me.... See below.... > > > >The following is excerpted from: > >http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/cal_art.htm > > > >In the Gregorian Calendar a year is a leap year if either (i) it is divisible > >by 4 but not by 100 or (ii) it is divisible by 400. In other words, a year > >which is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not by > >400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are > >leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not. > > > >Therefore, the year 2000 being a leap year, was a "one in every 400 years" > >event... (which made it even more special...) > > > >Rich Fenwick > >Champaign, IL > >1990 PC800 > > > >***************** > > > >At 05:30 PM 02/29/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >>Today was the day for me to take the Yankee Smuggler out for some > >>exercise. 45 degrees F (70 C) and sunny, I couldn't resist. Plus > >>that makes at least one day each month since winter set in that I > >>have gone out. Last time was New Year's Day 2000. I decided today > >>would be the best day since it only comes around once every 4 years > >>and that makes it extra special. I'm sure you "sunbirds" will not > >>understand any of this, maybe the date thing, but you "winter rats" > >>will know the feelling. > >> > >>Tim Davies > >>Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >>'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >> > >>AMA #688662 > >>HSTA #8387 > >>HRCA #HM100878 > >> > >>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:22:58 -0000 Honda Maintenance Schedule for the PC800 specify oill and filter change every 8,000 miles. But I, like most listers change them at around 4,000 miles. It is best to change the oil before the bike is stored in Winter. Combustion produces acids, which can attack bearing surfaces if they are left in constant contact for long periods of time. Wear problem with the rear tire is a mystery! Most people get at least 10,000 miles. Job, Sussex, Britain ----- Original Message ----- > Rob asked: > Question: recomended oil interval is 4K. I do that in a about a year. Any > thoughts on letting oil sit for that long, especially in the winter when I > don't use the bike as often? > > Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. I might > get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and I don't > think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, front tire > looks great! > > Question: Is anyone else going through back tires that quickly? Has Dunlop > changed materials? Other explanations??? > > Rob > Cary NC > 96 PC w/5.5 K > 89 PC w/43 K (4 Sale) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ5FDPYS; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:39:00 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:37:47 -0700 Subject: PC800: PEG LEG UPDATE If you are NOT interested in footpeg brackets delete mssg. now and/or complain to the List. [I'm still off list, but don't tell anyone.] 1) As of Wed. 3.1.2000, 08:00 MST, I had recieved 17 firm bracket orders (i.e. name & address label complete with order) -- plus 11 pretty-sure, maybe or "yes" without address label and/or confirmation. 2) I sorted them by email date and time and will ship on first in first out basis ... with two exceptions. Paybacks get priority. 3) The machinist picked up the 72" of angle iron I hauled in on Red Cloud today. He plans to use a band saw. He mentioned he'd just had some work done on it, so I hope it holds up. I, too, have a band saw but not the skill or time. I have offered it to him to do the work. To be continued.... 4) I estimate the 72" of angle iron should yield at least 30 sets of brackets. Bruce will call when he gets the first 10 sets done. I will ship them in the order in which I recieved your order. 5) My time is limited. If you don't get a personal response from me, I'm (usually) not ignoring you. I'm just hard-of-reading. *HEH HEH* Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghost Coast '90 PC-AZ Red Cloud, Beast of Burden Wed. 3.1.2000 19:35 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: PC800: Sheilds Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:53:40 -0800 Ron, here is my two cents worth. I wouldn't get the smoke. Had it and for me it was to dark when I ride at night, which I often do. Went to the orange colored high definition. Works really well and does keep the heat in the helmet down. Which is a big concern for me as my over abundant and for those who have to say it FAT) head does generate allot of heat. Yes it does get hot out here in Oregon, especially in eastern Oregon where I ride often. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Dark Side Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:50:30 -0000 Does anyone know if a Dynojet Kit is available in the US for the PC800? Job, Sussex, GB ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Jarrells=20 To: PC800=20 Sent: 02 March 2000 02:23 Subject: PC800: Dark Side Browsing this list for the past few months has induced me to check out = the Dark Side (Especially Emile chiming in with the ST this and the ST = that). Anyway, the wife and I have tried out a few bikes over the past couple = weeks. We had already tried an ST before buying the PC and did not like = it for two up as well as the PC. Still, with all the talk of the PC's = low power and the ST's abundance, we went looking for another answer to = our motorcycling 'needs'. 1) We tried a K1100LT first. Seemed like the perfect choice. Faster = (if only a few hundredth's of a second) than the ST. Sure would love to = rub that in on Emile. Hmm. Removable bags. Radio. Light by Touring = Standards. I liked the power and the electric screen. But, the bike = was rough. I didn't expect such a buzzy bike from BMW. Worse than the = Bandit 1200 I traded off in 98. 2) So, we tried a Gold Wing. The wife loved it. I enjoyed it but = could not seriously consider it for a serious mount. Too single minded = of purpose. Riding position sucks. Goodbye twisties. I'll pass. 3) Ducati ST2 or ST4? Wife would not get on them. 4) R1100RT? Way too much money. 5) VFR800. I loved it. Wife hated it. I had to admit that it was = not as practical as the PC. 6) We even looked at the Shadow Ace Tourer. Each time it felt good to get back on the PC and we both developed a = deeper appreciation for the bike. Still, it would be nice to have about = 75 or 80 ponies at the rear wheel. =20 Bill & Helen Jarrells =20 =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: PC800: 1100 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:58:03 -0800 Speaking of the 1100 motor, has anybody tried to stuff one in a PC. Have been giving it some thought seeings we didn't sell our extra one. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 03:38:36 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: Subject: Re: PC800: Dark Side Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:03:54 -0500 On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:50:30 -0000, "Job" wrote: >Does anyone know if a Dynojet Kit is available in the US for the PC800? It is my understanding that the exhaust system is too restrictive to have that do any good. Some guy put a Shadow dual exhaust on his PC, but there was no report if it upped the power... Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 03:44:56 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:10:14 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:58:03 -0800, "John & Rhoda Strode" wrote: >Speaking of the 1100 motor, has anybody tried to stuff one in a PC. Have >been giving it some thought seeings we didn't sell our extra one. Problem is finding a PC with a blown motor, who wants to take a perfectly good motor out? Bloody things last forever! Also, the PC motor has no fins unlike its Shadow 800 ancestor, it might take machining off the fins on the 1100 to get it to fit? I suspect the 1100 isn't much bigger otherwise... Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:09:34 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:48:45 -0600 Maybe too much air pressure wearing out the center or not enough corner riding. Or a little of both. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires > > Wear problem with the rear tire is a mystery! > Most people get at least 10,000 miles. > > Job, Sussex, Britain > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Rob asked: > > > Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. I > might > > get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and I > don't > > think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, front tire > > looks great! > > > > Question: Is anyone else going through back tires that quickly? Has > Dunlop > > changed materials? Other explanations??? > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:37 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Sheilds Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:01:50 -0600 John or Roda, (not sure which one wrote the below) With a sock and the large trunk of the PC, you can carry a clear or orange and a smoke and swap them out as needed. (sticking the spare in the sock keeps them from getting scratched as they rattle around in the trunk) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: PC800: Sheilds > Ron, here is my two cents worth. I wouldn't get the smoke. Had it and for > me it was to dark when I ride at night, which I often do. Went to the > orange colored high definition. Works really well and does keep the heat in > the helmet down. Which is a big concern for me as my over abundant and for > those who have to say it FAT) head does generate allot of heat. Yes it does > get hot out here in Oregon, especially in eastern Oregon where I ride often. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:35:08 -0800 > Auto has Fram PH6017A filters for $5.99 a piece. A naive question: Do these have the necessary relief valve? I have heard old alewives' tales about using only motorcycle filters because the "copies" aren't right inside. Any opinions? (now that's a silly question!) Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Sheilds Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:47:00 -0800 Have tried carrying the spare shield but haven't (believe it or not) got room for it when we go. By the time we get the camping gear, clothes, and the rest of the stuff, there is not a safe place to put it with out trying to flatten it out or fold it in half. Times I did it ended up with scratches on it, which drives me nuts when traveling down the road looking through it. "Disclaimer" By the way it's John sending these opinions which are not necessarily those of the local management. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:49:24 -0800 I would just to see if I could get an 1100 in there. Right now problem is affording an 1100 to see if I could do it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:57:14 -0500 Subject: PC800: Pc800: Shield height for 6'4" rider? I just bought my first PC800 today. A 98 with the standard Honda shield. Way too much wind buffeting for my liking. I measured the tall honda shield and it is 6 inches taller than the standard. Seems I want at least the tall height or higher. I see a lot of folks with clearview shields (+3, +5, +6, etc.). Do these numbers mean the extra height above a standard Honda shield? So I assume +6 is equivalent to the tall honda shield? Given all this, are there any 6'4" riders to suggest a good shield brand and height? Thanks, Joel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ5L2Z7P; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:18:01 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:15:55 -0500 Subject: PC800: New PC Reviews From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Grant Marshall from Ontario has sent me two Canadian Cycle magazines with great PC reviews. I got them today, scanned them and they will soon be on this website: http://members.xoom.com/hsattin/pc800.htm They are the two "NEW" reviews at the end of the list. The scans are full-size and the files may just be too large to download at modem speeds. If any of you find this is the case, let me know because I can reduce the size of the images or run them through an OCR program to convert them to text, then just paste in the pictures. I may just do that anyway. Thanks Grant, I'm returning those magazines to you tomorrow. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:07:34 -0500 Subject: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? PC800 folks, I bought a 1998 PC today, with stock seat and windshield. Those are my first priorities to upgrade. I'm 6'4" so I want a taller shield and a different seat to get a little more leg room. I took a demo ride on a PC with a Corbin and it let me slide back an inch further which felt less cramped. Is that the best seat for the PC, or is something like a Russell even better? Are there other contenders for good seats for the PC? Joel 68 CB160 80 GS550E 82 GS850G 95 CB750 Nighthawk 98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:11:30 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? To: jbarlow@telcordia.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: raml@bus.usc.edu (Steve Raml) The Corbins are nice, but often have you sitting lower than the stock seat, making the foot pegs feel higher and changing the angle of your legs while riding. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:12:58 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: John & Rhoda Strode CC: PCListserve Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Maybe we could all pitch in a little cash each, buy a group PC project bike and an 1100 motor and find some enterprising mechanic who might be willing to give it a whirl. Who knows? Maybe Honda will be watching:-) John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > > I would just to see if I could get an 1100 in there. Right now problem is > affording an 1100 to see if I could do it. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:47:01 EST Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 To: bmwk75@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu If you're serious about this, I'm in. Let's find a used 1100 engine and divie up the costs. Ken 95 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:22:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: PC800: PegLeg Update To: PC800 Highway pegs for the PC? Come'n!. What's next? Monkey bars? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:07:46 -0800 I have just ordered a Russell, but if you want one you better get your money in soon. My production date of when I have to have my seat to them is June 13. Business is good. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:27:14 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:26:46 -0600 Congrats Joel, Guaranteed to Solve Your Seating Problems or Your Money Back! That was copied from the Russell website. There have been a few folks on this list that have had problems with Corbin. I have never heard of anyone having a problem with Russell, except for the wait. They give you a estimated date of manufacture and you send the seat in just before that date and they return it about a week or 10 days later. The Russell seats are ugly to the eye but with the right set of cheeks on the saddle, your eyes can't see it anyway. All your cheeks will be happy cheeks. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? > > > PC800 folks, > > I bought a 1998 PC today, with stock seat and windshield. > Those are my first priorities to upgrade. I'm 6'4" so I want > a taller shield and a different seat to get a little more leg room. > > I took a demo ride on a PC with a Corbin and it let me slide back > an inch further which felt less cramped. Is that the best seat > for the PC, or is something like a Russell even better? > > Are there other contenders for good seats for the PC? > > Joel > 68 CB160 > 80 GS550E > 82 GS850G > 95 CB750 Nighthawk > 98 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:34:21 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Will Edwards To: Joel F. Barlow ; Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 10:07 AM Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? > I have just ordered a Russell, Agh, I thought I heard somebody shouting. Will you pay the airfare? I can be there well before June. :-} Russ ell bikes@f-goff.co.uk Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 07:31:36 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: PegLeg Update To: jsori@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, annreid@juno.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jsori@yahoo.com writes: >Highway pegs for the PC? Come'n!. What's next? Monkey bars? >__________________________________________________ MONKEY BARS! Ann are you selling Monkey Bars now... kewl, don't hold out on us. I'll buy a set of 18 inchers. I need something to keep my leather handlebar fringe from dragging on th ground:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:06:39 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires I had that rear tire wear problem after too much flat-land riding. I rode from my home near Washington, DC, south on the coastal roads to Florida, then all the way down the Atlantic coast side to Key West. Then back up the Gulf coast to Alabama. My rear tire was noticeably squared off by then. So I rode the Smoky Mountains, the entire Blue Ridge Parkway, and the entire Skyline Drive. I did 440 miles on the Blue Ridge Parkway in one day :-) Rounded that tire right off. I heartily recommend it! :-) Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:48:45 -0600 >Maybe too much air pressure wearing out the center or not enough corner >riding. Or a little of both. :-) >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Job" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:22 PM >Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires > > >> >> Wear problem with the rear tire is a mystery! >> Most people get at least 10,000 miles. >> >> Job, Sussex, Britain >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > Rob asked: >> >> > Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. >I >> might >> > get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and >I >> don't >> > think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, >front tire >> > looks great! >> > >> > Question: Is anyone else going through back tires that quickly? Has >> Dunlop >> > changed materials? Other explanations??? >> > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Kriss or Kisan modulator "Vartan Kazarov" writes: > Please help me decide between those two. I am kinda leaning towards > Kriss starburst modulator, the most expensive of their line. Do you > think that their lower priced models, FCD and ECM, will suffice? Based on several reports that I have seen on the web, Kriss customer support is unacceptable, and I would not buy one of their products under any circumstances. For an example, see: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9907/msg00388.html There was an even worse narrative on the web, but it has disappeared since last year. In the other one, George Kriss not only refused to honor their warranty because the customer allegedly had not sent in his registration, but personally threatened to sue the customer if he went public with his complaint. Kisan has a fine reputation for support, especially among PC owners, since the firm's owner went to great lengths to redesign the product to be compatible with some idiosyncracies of the PC's power system. Kisan is probably the easiest to install of the modulators. That said, I purchased a Signal Dynamics unit, which has all the features of the Kriss and a 2-year warranty. It has performed flawlessly, and the link between the horn and flasher circuits has possibly saved me from an accident with a pickup truck that started to turn into my path at night. I posted a fairly detailed writeup about all three products to the PC800 web site last year. See: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9905/msg00392.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:48:38 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "LDRIDER" , Subject: PC800: Nolan N100 helmets Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:47:47 -0600 Hey List, I ran across a deal yesterday and wanted to let you guys know. I picked up 6 Nolan N100 Trend helmet's. (actually my wife is pitching a fit, they are in her living room) Display helmet- Lg- Ruby Red - $145 Matches 90 model PC800. Display helmet- Lg- Silver- $140 No breath deflectors or papers. New--------------- Lg- Black- $150 replaced broken seal on chinbar. New--------------- XXL-White- $150 replaced broken seal on chinbar. Used-barely---- XL- Silver- $100 No breath deflectors or papers. 3 places where the paint is scraped. Well used------- XXL-Wineberry $50 Washed but worn. I can deliver a couple of these to Daytona if you want. The rest, I will ship UPS ground for $5 each. If anyone needs replacement seals for the chinbar, I can get them. I am not sure about the cost but am sure it won't be much. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:57:10 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Dynojet, was Dark Side "Job" writes: > Does anyone know if a Dynojet Kit is available in the US for the PC800? Why? as far as I can see, the PC's carbs are set up just about perfectly; no flat spots, choke can be turned off within 60 seconds of starting the engine. Jet kits are usually sold for bikes that have problems because of factory compromises to meet emissions standards, OR to meet different carburetion needs on bikes with modified intake/exhaust systems. (And many of those efforts actually worsen the way an engine runs over most of its powerband, in exchange for a 5% increase in the lasat 1000 rpm.) I've read of only one attempt to change the exhaust system on a PC. I run a supposedly lower restriction K&N air cleaner on my PC, and have the idle screws set to 1/4 turn leaner than normal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gcastle@mail.neptune.on.ca To: casgre@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Subject: Fwd: Re: PC800: PEG LEG VISION Date: Thu, 2 Mar 100 14:15:45 +0000 Forwarded Message:> To: annreid@juno.com> From: Ron Kimball > Subject: Re: PC800: PEG LEG VISION> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:06:13 -0500> -----> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:59 -0700, annreid@juno.com wrote: > > >I will enclose an SASE > >for you to return your payment to me. By then I'll know if they're $10 > >or $15 a set including shipping. > > Hey, if you sign up at: > https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ron%40frodo.com > you get $10 free, can accept credit cards for free (no fees even!), and you > get $10 free for each of your customers that pay via the PayPal service (if > they are new to PayPal, they also get $10 free!). I've been ordering stuff > for my PC800 all day and trying to get those "little guys" who can't take > plastic to go though PayPal. I've been using this service for my own small > business and it is great! > > Happy Trails, > Ron > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:26:57 -0800 > If you're serious about this, I'm in. Let's find a used 1100 engine and divie > up the costs. > > > Ken 95 PC 800 > -- > I am sure I could find a spare "body by Tupperware" decal to throw in the deal. Seriously, I'd add this: Everyone who contributes an agreed-upon minimum amount is entered, at the end of the project, in a lottery drawing for the bike... Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:26:19 -0600 Fellow "power hungry" listers: Could this be as easy as swapping out the top end? Someone with access to part numbers (Russ Goff, are you listening?)could see if the lower end of the PC and Shadow series are the same. If all we have to do is swap pistons and cylinders (carbs and exhaust headers too), we might have stumbled onto the best performance hop up in history! I've always had an itch to pull my cylinder heads just to see inside but can't justify it when the bike is working so great. I will be willing to pull "Scooter's" engine to try the swap. First step is to find a "parts guru" who can research part numbers and see how different to engine parts really are. I will search locally for the engine. Took all "Scooter's" plastic off today and there is some room to play with the top end but very little spare room for the lower end. I'll kick in to help buy a 1100 motor as a test and will "buy out my partners" if it fits. An 1100 cc engine would make the PC the PERFECT bike! Other wrenches out there....lets get busy! Count me in! Chuck Chiodini -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 19:08:53 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:34:06 -0500 On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:26:19 -0600, "Chuck Chiodini" wrote: >Fellow "power hungry" listers: > Could this be as easy as swapping out the top end? Someone with access >to part numbers (Russ Goff, are you listening?)could see if the lower end of >the PC and Shadow series are the same. Different stroke: Bore x Stroke 1100 87.5 x 91.4mm PC800 79.5 x 80.6mm >I've always had an itch to pull my >cylinder heads just to see inside but can't justify it when the bike is >working so great. That's the biggest problem with performance work on the PC800, it never needs a rebuild which is the time most hop-ups are done... >I will be willing to pull "Scooter's" engine to try the >swap. First step is to find a "parts guru" who can research part numbers and >see how different to engine parts really are. I will search locally for the >engine. Took all "Scooter's" plastic off today and there is some room to >play with the top end but very little spare room for the lower end. I suspect the lower ends are almost the same size, only 1/2" bigger stroke... >I'll >kick in to help buy a 1100 motor as a test and will "buy out my partners" if >it fits. An 1100 cc engine would make the PC the PERFECT bike! Yes, I think it would. Let's make sure we get the 1100 with the offset crank pin, not the newer "paint shaker" single pin. :-) I'd guess the motor is gonna be just under $1000? Still might have to machine the fake fins off to fit? Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:00:11 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PegLeg Update Jesus Soriano wrote: > > Highway pegs for the PC? Come'n!. What's next? Monkey bars? Ah, but just like the rest of the PC, they are "stealth" highway pegs. When folded you can barely see them, if at all, unless you are looking for them. Anyone come up with a dash mounted switch and solenoid mechanism to deploy them while on flight? :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:12:50 -0600 To: PC800 From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... Has anyone out there installed the Rear turn signal running light kit that is shown on the bottom half of the page of this link? It specifically states that the kit is PC800 compliant. I think that at that price, it would be a great addition to any PC... (I'm seriously thinking about ordering one right now... More visibility for less than $15) http://www.electricalconnection.com/lighting/driving/misc/index.shtml Sport Touring Accessories is a reseller for many of the products featured from this manufacturer (Driving lights, Battery Monitor to name two...) I may give Rob/Leslie a holler to see if they have ever stocked these / have any experience with it... Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:21:44 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Oil filters Lee Barker wrote: > A naive question: Do these have the necessary relief valve? I have heard > old alewives' tales about using only motorcycle filters because the > "copies" aren't right inside. First, the Fram PH6017A _is_ a motorcycle oil filter. Now, there have been questions as to the quality and reliability of Fram (Allied Signal) products overall. History: the original PH6017 underwent a safety recall because a batch of the filters had substandard threads and blew off on more than one bike, I believe they were racing or race prepped CBR600s. There could have been others, I don't know. This set part of the stage for Fram's current bad rep. The PH6017A is the redesigned filter. All of this is FYI and I am not recommending this or any other filter other than the original OEM unit. I just thought to mention that if someone is willing to buy a Fram filter, the can be found cheaper than the $10 the original post mentioned. My $0.02 -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:44:56 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... To: fenwick@nn.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <4.1.20000302140620.00a2d100@medusa.nn.com> fenwick@nn.com writes: >Has anyone out there installed the Rear turn signal running light >kit that >is shown on the bottom half of the page of this link? It >specifically >states that the kit is PC800 compliant. I think that at that >price, it >would be a great addition to any PC... (I'm seriously thinking >about >ordering one right now... More visibility for less than $15) > >http://www.electricalconnection.com/lighting/driving/misc/index.shtml > >Sport Touring Accessories is a reseller for many of the products >featured >from this manufacturer (Driving lights, Battery Monitor to name >two...) > >I may give Rob/Leslie a holler to see if they have ever stocked >these / >have any experience with it... > >Rich Fenwick >Illinois >1990 PC800 If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the rear of a vehicle. I don't remember the specifics, but as usual there were differences from state to state. Any such discussion would be in the archives of the List, but I'm not sure what you would search on to make the most efficient use of your searching time. I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state to an ON state as they do now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:56:33 -0000 Is the 1100 motor a 52 degree V-Twin as usual or a 45 degree V-Twin like on the PC800? VT Series of engines started with the VT500 (FT Ascot, Shadow and Euro Sport) in 1983. In the PC800 the angle was reduced to shorten the engine length. But the project is worthy of further research so count me in anyway :-) Job, Sussex, Britain > From: Ralph Couey said: > Maybe we could all pitch in a little cash each, buy a group > PC project bike and an 1100 motor and find some enterprising > mechanic who might be willing to give it a whirl. Who > knows? Maybe Honda will be watching:-) > > John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > > > > I would just to see if I could get an 1100 in there. Right now problem is affording an 1100 to see if I could do it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PegLeg Update Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:06:53 -0000 Last summer I had place my feet on the Fairing Protector moldings to catch some cool air. Hiway pegs will help if they are unobtrusive. Job, Sussex, Britain ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jesus Soriano said: > Highway pegs for the PC? Come'n!. What's next? Monkey bars? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Dynojet, was Dark Side Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:41:58 -0000 Bike Catalogues here list Stage 1 kits (K&N Filter and Dynojet) for VT500, XLV600 Transalp, NT400/600/650 (Bros, Hawk, Revere), XRV750 Africa Twin, VT 700/750/1100 Shadow, etc. But not the gentleman cousin PC800. Probably because there are so few of them here, I thought. Stage 2 Kits are also listed for a some of the VT Series but these need an aftermarket pipe or can plus modified Airbox. Just wondered !! Job, Sussex, Britain ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer said: > > Why? as far as I can see, the PC's carbs are set up just about perfectly; > no flat spots, choke can be turned off within 60 seconds of starting the > engine. Jet kits are usually sold for bikes that have problems because > of factory compromises to meet emissions standards, OR to meet different > carburetion needs on bikes with modified intake/exhaust systems. (And > many of those efforts actually worsen the way an engine runs over most > of its powerband, in exchange for a 5% increase in the lasat 1000 rpm.) > > I've read of only one attempt to change the exhaust system on a PC. I > run a supposedly lower restriction K&N air cleaner on my PC, and have > the idle screws set to 1/4 turn leaner than normal. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Job" wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if a Dynojet Kit is available in the US for the PC800? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:48:32 -0000 There was a discussion about Fram filters on this list about an year or so ago. Many listers suspected their quality. Since oil filter is critical component, isn't it worth paying another 3 or 4 dollars and get the genuine item and be assured about quality control by Honda? A small price to pay considering that the cost of repairing engine damage due to filter failure could run into several hundred dollars. If it is of any consolation, we pay $16.82c here in the UK. Job, Sussex, UK ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lee Barker wrote: > > > Auto has Fram PH6017A filters for $5.99 a piece. > > A naive question: Do these have the necessary relief valve? I have heard > old alewives' tales about using only motorcycle filters because the > "copies" aren't right inside. > > Any opinions? > > (now that's a silly question!) > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 21:46:35 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:11:46 -0500 On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:44:56 -0500, pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) wrote: >>http://www.electricalconnection.com/lighting/driving/misc/index.shtml >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the >rear of a vehicle. Check again, they use a new RED bulb to get red out of the amber lense! This looks way cool... Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:12:49 -0600 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <20000302082259.958.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> <4.1.20000302140620.00a2d100@medusa.nn.com> Good arguments Tim, but.... Tim: >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the >rear of a vehicle. Webpage: "This kit is designed to take your dead amber turn signals and make them a red running light at night." Tim: >I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be >less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing >from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state >to an ON state as they do now. Webpage: "When the turn signal is activated, the amber bulb flashes like normal and the red bulb is disabled." Me: It seems to me they would though, be the ON/OFF as they exist now, according to the info on the web page. The red bulb would turn off when the turn signal was activated, therefore, there would not be any dim/bright state involved here. Just got off the phone with Leslie at STA. They will be stocking these at the price shown on the web page below. This is a brand new item from the manufacturer, and STA is expecting their first shipment in the next few days. Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800 At 03:44 PM 03/02/2000 -0500, PC800 Rider wrote: >fenwick@nn.com writes: >>Has anyone out there installed the Rear turn signal running light >>kit that >>is shown on the bottom half of the page of this link? It >>specifically >>states that the kit is PC800 compliant. I think that at that >>price, it >>would be a great addition to any PC... (I'm seriously thinking >>about >>ordering one right now... More visibility for less than $15) >> >>http://www.electricalconnection.com/lighting/driving/misc/index.shtml >> >>Sport Touring Accessories is a reseller for many of the products >>featured >>from this manufacturer (Driving lights, Battery Monitor to name >>two...) >> >>I may give Rob/Leslie a holler to see if they have ever stocked >>these / >>have any experience with it... >> >>Rich Fenwick >>Illinois >>1990 PC800 > >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the >rear of a vehicle. I don't remember the specifics, but as usual >there were differences from state to state. Any such discussion >would be in the archives of the List, but I'm not sure what you >would search on to make the most efficient use of your searching >time. > >I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be >less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing >from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state >to an ON state as they do now. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:08:53 -0500 Subject: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? PC800 Folks, Any experience with a GIVI E360 or E460 as a top box to supplement the integrated trunk for a longer trip? How does the top rack attach, given the presence of the trunk? How easy is it to install? Any pros/cons of such a configuration? I had the GIVI's on a nighthawk 750 and really liked them. Joel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:26:07 -0800 They are adding one of the small tinted bulbs, probably a #914, or an LED module into the existing turnsignal housing. You have probably seen these bulbs at the auto parts store in the light bulb section. They come in red, amber, blue and are intended for those who want to change some of the interior (dome light, map lights, courtesy lights, etc.) lights for that "custom, dig me" look. I put the red ones in my map lights for my Taurus, they make it a little less blinding when trying to read maps at night. There was someone else who was selling LED light modules that did the same thing, and were advertized as such. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: R. Fenwick > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:12 PM > To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... > > Good arguments Tim, but.... > > Tim: >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a > >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the > >rear of a vehicle. > > Webpage: "This kit is designed to take your dead amber turn signals and make > them a red running light at night." > > > Tim: >I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be > >less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing > >from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state > >to an ON state as they do now. > > Webpage: "When the turn signal is activated, the amber bulb flashes like > normal and the red bulb is disabled." > > Me: It seems to me they would though, be the ON/OFF as they exist now, > according to the info on the web page. The red bulb would turn off when the > turn signal was activated, therefore, there would not be any dim/bright state > involved here. > > Just got off the phone with Leslie at STA. They will be stocking these at the > price shown on the web page below. This is a brand new item from the > manufacturer, and STA is expecting their first shipment in the next few days. > > Rich Fenwick > Illinois > 1990 PC800 > > > At 03:44 PM 03/02/2000 -0500, PC800 Rider wrote: > >fenwick@nn.com writes: > >>Has anyone out there installed the Rear turn signal running light > >>kit that > >>is shown on the bottom half of the page of this link? It > >>specifically > >>states that the kit is PC800 compliant. I think that at that > >>price, it > >>would be a great addition to any PC... (I'm seriously thinking > >>about > >>ordering one right now... More visibility for less than $15) > >> > >> http://www.electricalconnection.com/lighting/driving/misc/index.shtml > >> > >>Sport Touring Accessories is a reseller for many of the products > >>featured > >>from this manufacturer (Driving lights, Battery Monitor to name > >>two...) > >> > >>I may give Rob/Leslie a holler to see if they have ever stocked > >>these / > >>have any experience with it... > >> > >>Rich Fenwick > >>Illinois > >>1990 PC800 > > > >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a > >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the > >rear of a vehicle. I don't remember the specifics, but as usual > >there were differences from state to state. Any such discussion > >would be in the archives of the List, but I'm not sure what you > >would search on to make the most efficient use of your searching > >time. > > > >I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be > >less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing > >from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state > >to an ON state as they do now. > > > >Tim Davies > >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > > >AMA #688662 > >HSTA #8387 > >HRCA #HM100878 > > > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 22:06:19 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Trailer hitches Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:31:30 -0500 So who has what for trailer hitches? The cheapest one I've found so far is from Trailmaster at $200, sees kind of high to me! Anybody got a used hitch for sale? Used trailer? Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Trunk mat templates Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:35:18 -0800 Coasters, I have sent my Honda trunk mat template to Juan for him to try to scan it and put it on the website. At this point, I don't think that this is going to be a workable idea, since the mats are approx 19" x 8", larger than most people would have paper in their printer for. I have received requests, not all have included their home mailing address, so I will be sending copies for those who have given me an address. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ7GLYUE; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:38:56 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ron@frodo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:36:43 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer hitches From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Ron, I've got a little Coleman "Packhorse" trailer that can be pulled by a small car or motorcycle. It comes with the original fiberglass body and a larger home made plywood body. It has a spare tire, bearing buddies, and a stand. I'd sell it for $200. It's registered 'till December 31, 2000. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:31:30 -0500 Ron Kimball writes: > So who has what for trailer hitches? The cheapest one I've found so > far is > from Trailmaster at $200, sees kind of high to me! > > Anybody got a used hitch for sale? Used trailer? > > Happy Trails, > Ron > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:59:08 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filters I guess I just don't understand the desirability of these filters if you can get honda filters by the case for $65 or $70 for 10 (at least I could last year, are they still this price). Maybe people can't get 'em (they are available mail order and probably on the net now) or don't like the Honda filters. I remember years ago when I got my Toyota car, the Toyota filters were rated one of the worst. Original manufacturer doesn't guarantee quality, and I honestly don't know squat about the quality of Honda filters. I still would like to see one engine that failed because somebody used a certain brand filter for the life of it. Unless there is catastrophic failure, when does the engine ever die over what filter we are using? Just wondering. Thomas Juan A. Goula wrote: > > Lee Barker wrote: > > > A naive question: Do these have the necessary relief valve? I have heard > > old alewives' tales about using only motorcycle filters because the > > "copies" aren't right inside. > > First, the Fram PH6017A _is_ a motorcycle oil filter. > > Now, there have been questions as to the quality and reliability of Fram > (Allied Signal) products overall. > > History: the original PH6017 underwent a safety recall because a batch of > the filters had substandard threads and blew off on more than one bike, > I believe they were racing or race prepped CBR600s. There could have been > others, I don't know. This set part of the stage for Fram's current bad rep. > > The PH6017A is the redesigned filter. > > All of this is FYI and I am not recommending this or any other filter other > than the original OEM unit. I just thought to mention that if someone is > willing to buy a Fram filter, the can be found cheaper than the $10 the > original post mentioned. > > My $0.02 > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > ------------------------------------------------- > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a > dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its > motorcycles." > > (with apologies to Greil Marcus) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:00:38 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: cnorloff@norloff.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires I will second those rides. I rode the Blue Ridge last year and absolutely loved it. I am so damn jealous of you folks with easy access. You don't know how good you got it. Thomas Chris Norloff wrote: > > I had that rear tire wear problem after too much flat-land riding. I rode from my home near Washington, DC, south on the coastal roads to Florida, then all the way down the Atlantic coast side to Key West. Then back up the Gulf coast to Alabama. > > My rear tire was noticeably squared off by then. So I rode the Smoky Mountains, the entire Blue Ridge Parkway, and the entire Skyline Drive. I did 440 miles on the Blue Ridge Parkway in one day :-) > > Rounded that tire right off. I heartily recommend it! > > :-) > Chris Norloff > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Steve Wilson" > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:48:45 -0600 > > >Maybe too much air pressure wearing out the center or not enough corner > >riding. Or a little of both. :-) > >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Job" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:22 PM > >Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Oil & Tires > > > > > >> > >> Wear problem with the rear tire is a mystery! > >> Most people get at least 10,000 miles. > >> > >> Job, Sussex, Britain > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Rob asked: > >> > >> > Tires: I noticed my back tire is close to being spent at only 5.3K. > >I > >> might > >> > get another 1K out of it. On my 89 I used to get closer to 10K and > >I > >> don't > >> > think my driving habits have changed since chnaging bikes. BTW, > >front tire > >> > looks great! > >> > > >> > Question: Is anyone else going through back tires that quickly? Has > >> Dunlop > >> > changed materials? Other explanations??? > >> > > > > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:17:09 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? To: jbarlow@telcordia.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jbarlow@telcordia.com writes: >PC800 Folks, > >Any experience with a GIVI E360 or E460 as a top box to supplement >the >integrated trunk for a longer trip? > >How does the top rack attach, given the presence of the trunk? How >easy is it to >install? > >Any pros/cons of such a configuration? I had the GIVI's on a >nighthawk 750 and >really liked them. > >Joel Many of us have them, 460's and Maxia's, and they work great. The rack is designed specifically for the PC800 so attaching is a breeze. You can see some pictures of them mounted at: http://www.ekho.com/elton/Motorcycling.html http://www.gendiat.com/pc800/givi.htm http://www.pc800.net/indexpic7.html I had the lid of mine repainted to make a perfect match to my 1998 Honda red. The stock Givi red is very close to the 96-98 Honda red. Just a touch more orange in certain light. I had mine repainted before getting it pinstriped to match the rest of my bike. If you liked them once you'll like them again. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server06.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 23:50:38 -0000 To: "Vartan Kazarov" , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:52:46 -0500 "Folks, " "Please help me decide between those two. I am kinda leaning towards Kriss "starburst modulator, the most expensive of their line. Do you think that "their lower priced models, FCD and ECM, will suffice? " I have the starburst, and have been abusing it for a couple of years. I works great. I say abusing it, because I'm running a 100/80 H4 headlight, and my modulator is only rated to 75w. Oops! I just noticed this last week when I repositioned the light sensor. Oh well, it still works. When I got mine, the guys seemed to suggest that the other models were something they bought when they took over another line, and although they warranted them, they didn't make them. But that's just rumor. He said the starburst was the heavy duty one, and so I bought it. :o) ]Monty[ 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:54:46 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk mat templates Peter Noeth wrote: > At this point, I don't think that this is going to be a > workable idea, since the mats are approx 19" x 8", larger than most people > would have paper in their printer for. Rick Covert was also kind enough to send me a copy of his templates. I will scan them both and see which set comes out best (with scanners being so finicky and all). As for the size, no problem! I will simply scan half of each template at a time. That way it will fit on an 8.5" x 11" page (non North American Coasters might have a bit of a problem here, since they use different size paper, known to us as "A4". It is worth a shot in any case. Too bad that scanning in a logo won't make it appear on the carpet :) The scanned version(s) should be available sometime next week. Do I smell a "Best-of-Ride Carpets" award at the Y2K get-together? :) -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:16:18 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator To: montyshaw@spamcop.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) montyshaw@spamcop.net writes: >I have the starburst, and have been abusing it for a couple >of years. I works great. I say abusing it, because I'm >running a 100/80 H4 headlight, and my modulator is only >rated to 75w. Oops! I just noticed this last week when I >repositioned the light sensor. Oh well, it still works. > >]Monty[ >89 Sailor Moon I also have the Starburst from Kriss which I bought back in the summer of 1998 right after I bought my bike new from the dealer. Mine is rated at 135W for the maximum bulb wattage. According to the Kriss chart I got, ECM is 75W, FCD is 100W. I have not had a single problem with mine. I do not know what the Kisan modulator is rated at, but maximum bulb wattage should be an important consideration before buying any modulator. Those brighter bulbs are great on a dark night:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dunlop 170/80-15 ? Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:43:15 PST Hey PC Gang, One of the sure signs of spring is the arrival of the new motorcycle catalogs. Can't wait for the new Comp. Accessories catalog. Was looking through the new Dennis Kirk catalog and noticed something that I just had to ask the Gang about. In the tire section they list two rear tires for the PC, a Dunlop K555 140/80-15 at $99.99 and a 170/80-15 for $150.99 ! What is up with this ? The 170 indicates the tire is wider ? Wonder how come the great difference in price ? Why a wider tire ? Betcha it will rub something !! Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: Re(2): PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:34:48 -0800 I believe that the Kisan models are 75W and 115W. I have a 115W model and use a 100/80W bulb. I have had no problems, and mine is one of the older units, before the modifications were put in for noisey electrical systems. Some of the listers were working with Kisan on this, as some PC's have noiser regulators than others, which was causing the modulator to sometimes start at night, where it shouldn't. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 4:16 PM > To: montyshaw@spamcop.net > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re(2): PC800: Kriss or Kisan modulator > > montyshaw@spamcop.net writes: > >I have the starburst, and have been abusing it for a couple > >of years. I works great. I say abusing it, because I'm > >running a 100/80 H4 headlight, and my modulator is only > >rated to 75w. Oops! I just noticed this last week when I > >repositioned the light sensor. Oh well, it still works. > > > >]Monty[ > >89 Sailor Moon > > I also have the Starburst from Kriss which I bought back in the > summer of 1998 right after I bought my bike new from the dealer. > Mine is rated at 135W for the maximum bulb wattage. According to > the Kriss chart I got, ECM is 75W, FCD is 100W. I have not had a > single problem with mine. > > I do not know what the Kisan modulator is rated at, but maximum > bulb wattage should be an important consideration before buying any > modulator. Those brighter bulbs are great on a dark night:-) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:33:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:33:47 EST Subject: PC800: Trailer hitches To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Lots of talk about trailer hitches, Has any tests been done on how heavy of a trailer a PC800 can pull with two riders ?? Any thoughts from trailering PCers would be helpful. Also info where to buy or make a PC hitch ??? Thanks in advance, Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40 K Givi E460 Clearview Plus 3 Corbin (on the way) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AJDOBBS@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:55:37 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer hitches To: ron@frodo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ron, I ordered a hitch for my PC in June 1999. I ordered from TRAILMASTER only to find out they get the hitches from HITCHDOC (1-800-446-8222). As hard as this may be to believe - I seem to recall that the price from Trailmaster was less then Hitchdoc. I would double check. The quality is fantastic, the instructions could not be easier and the look is great! I have a Coleman cargo trailer that I purchased from a gentleman in Syracuse, NY. I placed a "wanted" ad in the Americade web pages: Americade I picked up the trailer with a friend from the list: Tim Davies. They are hard to find a "decent price." Good luck - If I can be of further assistance please contact me off list. A.J. Dobbs '94 PC w/ Coleman Trailer In a message dated 3/2/00 4:32:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, ron@frodo.com writes: << Subj: PC800: Trailer hitches Date: 3/2/00 4:32:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: ron@frodo.com (Ron Kimball) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu So who has what for trailer hitches? The cheapest one I've found so far is from Trailmaster at $200, sees kind of high to me! Anybody got a used hitch for sale? Used trailer? Happy Trails, Ron >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ7XCK4D; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:56:29 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:56:41 -0600 Subject: PC800: K & M Air Filter From: Jim M SMITH Some time ago there was discussion about trying the K & M Air Filters I can't remember any negative comments. Has anyone had any problems them them? Also does anyone have the K&M part number? Thanks Jim SMITH: 90 PC 21,000+ Springfield Mo Corbin Seat,Tall Shield,CycleCom, Priority Plus Lights OKCDOC@JUNO.COM, OKCDOC@AOL.COM Retreads Gateway Region (Springfield) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:27:00 EST Subject: Re: PC800: K & M Air Filter To: okcdoc@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu The K & M air filter part number is HA-8089 and the retail price is about 40.00 Call 800 357 7422 for the nearest dealer or try MAW at 800 241 2222. I have only used for about two weeks so I can not comment yet. But friends have used the K&M filters on other bikes and like them very much. Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40 K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:53:20 EST Subject: Re: PC800: What's a nice seat for PC? To: rstar@aa.net, jbarlow@telcordia.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/2/00 3:09:08 AM Mountain Standard Time, rstar@aa.net writes: << I have just ordered a Russell, but if you want one you better get your money in soon. My production date of when I have to have my seat to them is June 13. Business is good. >> Yup, I ordered mine in January and my shipping date is still a month and a half away. All that I can say is, it better be worth it! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Trailer hitches Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:00:05 -0800 Jim, That depends on a lot of things. Probably the most important is how well the hitch is mounted to the bike and how strong it is. If it is mounted to the frame well, forward of the swingarm, then theoreticly, the maximum weight would be determined by the horsepower of the motorcycle. Safety wise, one would not want to tow so much weight that the bike would not have enough horsepower to accelerate safely onto the highway, or not be able to pass safely. As well as not to exceed the bikes braking capacity. I think that 300-500 pounds would be about the limit for the PC. But I believe that most PC hitches do not mount firmly to the frame, forward of the swingarm, so I would guess that 300 pounds may be the practical limit, riding 2 up. For example, my Bushtech hitch mounts to the trunk subframe, just behind the taillamp. It plugs in vertically to the two open ends of the rear of the subframe. From what I have seen posted to the various PC websites, I think that a lot of PC hitches mount this way. Obviously, mounted at this point, there is a lot more chances of flexing in the subframe and the subframe tubing is smaller than that of the main frame, so that would further limit the towed weight. Since the trunk weight limit is a total of 40 pounds, tongue weight of the trailer now also becomes important as it will now add vertical flexing of the trunk subframe as well. For the Bushtech trailers, I believe the empty trailer weight is around 125 to 150 pounds, and the maximum load is around 250 pounds, bringing the total to 350 - 400 pounds. With a general recomendation of trailer manufacturers to have a tongue weight of 10-15% of gross trailer weight, to not exceed the trunk weight limit (with the trunk empty) and a 10% tongue weight ratio, then the gross trailer weight should not exceed 400 pounds. Considering that if you are towing a trailer, you shouldn't have any need to stuff a lot of things in the trunk, this should be doable. This thinking methodology pretty much rules out a lot of the Pop-Up tent trailers out there, at least for towing with the PC anyway. John Preston, president of Bushtech, developed the PC hitch while he owned a PC, and personally towed his trailer (a Turbo 2) over 6,000 miles without any problems. My camping gear probably does not add up to more than 100 - 125 pounds, and since I ride single, I think I have enough of a horsepower margin for safety, and hopefully enough braking power margin as well. Hopefully I will not have any problems either, but I only have about 800 towing miles so far. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: KC2ATQ@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 5:33 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Trailer hitches > > Lots of talk about trailer hitches, Has any tests been done on how heavy of a > trailer a PC800 can pull with two riders ?? Any thoughts from trailering > PCers would be helpful. Also info where to buy or make a PC hitch ??? > > Thanks in advance, > Jim T > Beachwood, NJ > 1996 PC 800 40 K > Givi E460 > Clearview Plus 3 > Corbin (on the way) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:02:23 EST Subject: Re: PC800: 1100 To: strode@pioneer-net.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Go for the 750 Magna motor instead! Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:14:55 -0500 Subject: PC800: Any way to get more room on stock seat? PC800 folks, I just got a 98 PC800, stock shield and seat. Like the feel of the stock seat but the rise is too far forward so I feel cramped. I'm 6'4" and being able to move back 1 inch would help. The Corbin allows this (I demo rode one), but is there any to fix the stock seat to get more room other than replacing it? Joel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:17:01 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer hitches To: Peter_N1@verifone.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Peter, thanks for the info. I printed it out and will save. At this point I am just getting info. I am now searching the web for used trailer as the new prices are out of my limit Ride safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:21:35 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: Re: PC800: Any way to get more room on stock seat? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:04:28 -0600 I remember a guy on the list that removed the back seat, pealed back the vinyl from the front, cut an inch of foam off the front, recovered the front with the vinyl he had pulled back and claimed he loved it. It allowed him to sit an inch further back. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:14 PM Subject: PC800: Any way to get more room on stock seat? > > > PC800 folks, > > I just got a 98 PC800, stock shield and seat. > Like the feel of the stock seat but the rise is too far forward so I feel > cramped. > I'm 6'4" and being able to move back 1 inch would help. > The Corbin allows this (I demo rode one), but is there any to fix the stock seat > to get more room other than replacing it? > > Joel > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "PC800" , Subject: Re: PC800: Dark Side Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:27:23 -0500 The 1100 engine swap idea sounds pretty good. So does the Magna 750 (I had one of these -- 1988). Triumph has come a long way in the past few years. They could be the ones to do it. I just can't understand why Honda doesn't upgrade the thing. The only negative press the bike received was it's low power output and the 'scooter' looks. The bikes style was trend setting. A lot of bikes look simila today. The power is all that is left. Bill -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com To: roadster@columbus.rr.com Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Dark Side >I have been having the same problem, can't find a bike to trade up to. Triumph is supposable developing a new drive shaft Trophy. If the rumor is correct, and the bike has self adjusting valves, it maybe interesting. > >Bernie >94 PC 59K >Overland Park, KS > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:28:25 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Any way to get more room on stock seat? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:11:11 -0600 What a dunce. PEELED Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" > I remember a guy on the list that removed the back seat, pealed back the > vinyl from the front, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:32:04 -0500 I have a Giv E460 on my 89. The trunk is great. Holds a bunch. Easy to install. Snaps on and off in seconds. BUT, I have experienced one problem with the case. I ride two up most of the time and we bought the backrest to go with the case. It doesn't work well for us. There seems to be too much springback in the rack and it wears my wife out. I have been thinking about a few 'fix' ideas but haven't tried any yet. My advice is: If you ride two up do not rely on the attached back rest to provide comfort for your passenger. It may fall short. Other than that, the case is great. Bill & Helen Jarrells -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Joel F. Barlow To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? > > >PC800 Folks, > >Any experience with a GIVI E360 or E460 as a top box to supplement the >integrated trunk for a longer trip? > >How does the top rack attach, given the presence of the trunk? How easy is it to >install? > >Any pros/cons of such a configuration? I had the GIVI's on a nighthawk 750 and >really liked them. > >Joel > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Joel F. Barlow" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Pc800: Shield height for 6'4" rider? of "Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:57:14 EST." <85256896.001B5701.00@notes950.cc.telcordia.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:37:02 -0600 "Joel F. Barlow" writes: > > I just bought my first PC800 today. A 98 with the standard Honda > shield. Way too much wind buffeting for my liking. I measured the tall > honda shield and it is 6 inches taller than the standard. Seems I want > at least the tall height or higher. I too have a '98 PC800. Bought the tallest "standard" (meaning "stocked" and not special order from the factory) Rifle. Believe its +6. Many on this list swear by the Clearview. Before purchasing I saw one and didn't care for the complex curves in the lexan. I liked the simple curve of the Rifle windshield. The Clearview might have more coverage for the hands. In the rain my Rifle does a perfect job of routing water along the seam between its opaque base and clear windshield and delivering the water right on my hands. Plenty of ways to deal with that but I prefer to avoid riding in the rain. Before purchasing I taped a ruler to my stock windshield and went for a ride. Thought the 6" mark was just about right where I could stretch to look over or slump to look thru. Of course I wasn't reading the 6" mark on the ruler but adjusting for the 4" of overlap on the windshield. Now that I've ridden it a year am considering purchase of additional wind flaps to see if I can get it higher. Have been thinking about purchasing some sheet lexan and putting another section about an inch or so in front of the top of my existing Rifle windshield to see if I can form a duct of airflow and force it over my head. If that doesn't work then "what the heck?" just extend it an inch or two so it approaches my line of sight. Then again thinking of the wind flaps sold by Saeng and others as they might be more adjustable so it would be easier to be finicky. Honda Hoot is about 340 miles from home and am planning on going. Wouldn't be my longest day in the saddle but might be the hardest. Longest day as 420 miles round trip on the Trail of Tears ride last year. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id A7879B9024C; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:54:47 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ed & Sharon Appler" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:57:54 -0600 Importance: Normal Joel, I installed a Givi Maxi and love it. I didn't get the backrest. The photos I'd seen just didn't fill me with confidence that my wife would be comfortable. We're going to figure out a way to install a backrest, but haven't yet. I primarily use the PC for commuting (30 miles each way) and carry briefcase, winter gear, etc. in it. Get to work, take the trunk off and go inside. Change clothes, install neck tie...voila!! Reverse the order for the return trip. Love the trunk. Ed & Sharon Appler Conway, Arkansas 89 PC800 78 XS1100 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Joel F. Barlow Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 3:09 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? PC800 Folks, Any experience with a GIVI E360 or E460 as a top box to supplement the integrated trunk for a longer trip? How does the top rack attach, given the presence of the trunk? How easy is it to install? Any pros/cons of such a configuration? I had the GIVI's on a nighthawk 750 and really liked them. Joel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-6.00) id A9E4D070200; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:04:52 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ed & Sharon Appler" To: Subject: RE: PC800: Trailer hitches Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:07:58 -0600 Importance: Normal Jim, This is a real informative site, with links to other ones. You may have already seen it. Sharon and I plan to build a trailer and hitch for our XS1100 to pull, based on the info we've acquired here. FWIW, YMMV. Ed & Sharon Appler Conway, Arkansas 89 PC800 78 XS1100 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Peter Noeth Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:00 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Trailer hitches > ---------- > From: KC2ATQ@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 5:33 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Trailer hitches > > Lots of talk about trailer hitches, Has any tests been done on how heavy of a > trailer a PC800 can pull with two riders ?? Any thoughts from trailering > PCers would be helpful. Also info where to buy or make a PC hitch ??? > > Thanks in advance, > Jim T > Beachwood, NJ > 1996 PC 800 40 K > Givi E460 > Clearview Plus 3 > Corbin (on the way) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server05.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 04:12:48 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:14:56 -0500 I was just looking at those pictures, and it looks like the new rack mount might work if you've got a top spoiler. Anyone know if it will? Thanks ]Monty[ 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 05:05:56 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dunlop 170/80-15 ? Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:31:00 -0500 On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:43:15 PST, "Desmond Cockburn" wrote: >Was looking through the new Dennis Kirk catalog and noticed something that I >just had to ask the Gang about. In the tire section they list two rear >tires for the PC, a Dunlop K555 140/80-15 at $99.99 and a 170/80-15 for >$150.99 ! What is up with this ? They been smoking them old tires I guess. I'm gonna fit up a 150/90-15 and expect it to be tight! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <4.1.20000302140620.00a2d100@medusa.nn.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:03:59 -0500 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Rear turn signal running light kit... Cc: fenwick@nn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 3:44 PM -0500 3/2/00, PC800 Rider wrote: > >If memory serves me correctly there was some question on the List a >while back about the legality of having amber running lights on the >rear of a vehicle. I don't remember the specifics, but as usual >there were differences from state to state. Any such discussion >would be in the archives of the List, but I'm not sure what you >would search on to make the most efficient use of your searching >time. > >I did not go for them because I think the turn signals would be >less noticeable in the rear during the daytime if they are flashing >from a dim state to a bright state, rather than from an OFF state >to an ON state as they do now. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" I'm not sure if that is how these lights work. They use a coated bulb that will make the amber light appear red. ( I wonder how effective this can be?) Then, when you use the turn signal, it turns off the red light and flashes the amber one to indicate the turn. Still....I'm not sure if the average licensed car driver (read stupid driver) would be able to decipher the light show this setup would present. Most cage drivers are pretty clueless as it is..... Ride safe.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <614CC7C21856D1118DA30060B06B4873016E9999@smf-nt-mail1.nsr.hp.com> <614CC7C21856D1118DA30060B06B4873016E9999@smf-nt-mail1.nsr.hp.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:32:17 -0500 To: Peter Noeth From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk mat templates Cc: "'PC800 List'" At 1:35 PM -0800 3/2/00, Peter Noeth wrote: >Coasters, > > I have sent my Honda trunk mat template to Juan for him to try to >scan it and >put it on the website. At this point, I don't think that this is going to be a >workable idea, since the mats are approx 19" x 8", larger than most >people would >have paper in their printer for. That's easy to fix. Scan them in, and then place two sets of cross hairs inside a circle around the middle of the floor mats. Then we can print them onto two separate sheets of paper, overlay the cross hairs for registrations, then tape it together and use this as a template. Does this make sense? fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:37:15 -0500 To: AJDOBBS@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer hitches Cc: ron@frodo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:55 PM -0500 3/2/00, AJDOBBS@aol.com wrote: > I picked up the trailer with a friend from the list: Tim Davies. >They are hard to find at a >"decent price." I agree. Good friends are hard to find. How much did your friend cost? he he he fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bne005m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 07:38:24 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: simple VISTA cruise query Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 17:37:10 PST A friend in California wants to buy the simple throttle lock device, as = I saw on one of the PC websites. just a plastic "holder" at the end of = the grip. Surely this is easy to source, but he came up blank. Help appreciated. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:30:39 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filters, quality control & peace of mind To: jobc@lineone.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/2/00 4:00:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, jobc@lineone.net writes: << Since oil filter is critical component, isn't it worth paying another 3 or 4 dollars and get the genuine item and be assured about quality control by Honda? >> I guess you are assuming that Honda actually makes the filters we buy at the dealers. My guess is they don't. The other assumption is that Honda checks the stuff sold by dealerships for their machines, etc. Let's hope so. But in the larger scheme of the things, quality control in relation to small items like filters by a big corportation like Honda is probably too good to be true! However if the large company can convince you it's worth the xtra money to buy their filters they've got you and maybe you've got peace of mind. Rob Cary NC 96 PC w/5.5 K 89 PC w/43 K (4 Sale) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:16:06 EST Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? To: roadster@columbus.rr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu DOTTI // The box is great and looks great on the PC800, but the back rest sucks !! I have been working with the guys from Corbin to replace it using the holes, or at least covering them, that are already in the E460. They are going to bring so ideas to the Americade for me. I will let you know how I make out. Ride Safe, Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40K. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:31:44 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800 group" , "Ronald Grant" Subject: Re: PC800: simple VISTA cruise query Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:30:17 -0600 Here is a place that has the Throttle Rocker. I am not sure if that is what you are looking for but here it is anyway. Some folks call them Wrist Rest. http://www.dwrracesupport.com/tr/throttle.htm Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ronald Grant" To: "PC800 group" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:37 PM Subject: PC800: simple VISTA cruise query A friend in California wants to buy the simple throttle lock device, as I saw on one of the PC websites. just a plastic "holder" at the end of the grip. Surely this is easy to source, but he came up blank. Help appreciated. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:23:45 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filters, quality control & peace of mind To: ROBJHALL@aol.com, jobc@lineone.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/3/00 3:32:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, ROBJHALL@aol.com writes: << However if the large company can convince you it's worth the xtra money to buy their filters they've got you and maybe you've got peace of mind. >> And that's about all there is too it, Rob. Dave Little on this list (when he is not out traveling the country on his PC), has probably close to a quarter million miles on his Pacific Coast and he uses the Fram filter. He also uses Mobil 1 oil too. His engine has never been out of the bike for repairs. I doubt the day ever comes when I will see 250,000 miles on my bike, but it is sure good to know that with proper maintenance and care that it will go the distance. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EZ9AZUGW; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:39:35 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:15:43 -0500 Subject: PC800: Horn Bolt From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Anybody know what size (Diameter and length) the bolt is that holds on the horn? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:45:56 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filters, quality control & peace of mind I run the PC maint/repair database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ How long does the PC engine last with good oil? We don't know. How long does the PC engine last with cheap oil? We don't know. How long does the PC engine last with expensive filters? We don't know. How long does the PC engine last with cheap filters? We don't know. Why don't we know? Because there are no statistics for it. With reasonably regular oil and filter changes of whatever brand, the engine will be the LAST thing to wear out on your bike. All of you can say "Rider A put a squillion miles on his bike with Brand A so it must be good" and someone will say "Rider B put TWO squillion miles on HIS bike with Brand B so it must bet better." You can do this all day if you want. I use department store brand oil in my bike, and I have NEVER hit a tiger. So that oil must be the best! To quote another lister, if you want to get the most miles out of your PC, RIDE IT. One person had an engine failure on a PC, but he refused to talk about it -- my guess is that he filled the engine with ATF or went for a drive after draining the oil but not refilling. IT DOESN'T MATTER what oil and filters you put in it, the PC's engine will outlast your childrens' children. Please people. Change your oil and filters regularly, be happy, and RIDE. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada support your local /"\ geek campaign \ / ASCII ribbon campaign to return sanity X against HTML email to mailboxen everywhere / \ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:09:45 -0500 Subject: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) Just let my former list buddies know: I'm riding again. This past weekend of sunny, 70 degree weather convinced me that motorcycling was too much a part of me to let it go. Even my wife was bugging me: "Sure wish we had a motorcycle to ride." I just took delivery of a 2000 Kawasaki ZR-7 (see Interactive Motorcycle's glowing review at: http://207.168.125.101/index/features/zr7/zr7.htm . . that was the article that got me thinking about this particular bike). My dealer located one in the box, and I watched them uncrate it and put it together. It's a "UJM" (Universal Japanese Motorcycle), with an air-cooled 738cc inline 4, with bitchin' stainless steel 4 into 2 into 1 exhaust. It's got lots of sportbike components: upswept exhaust, trick suspension and swingarm, beefy brakes, but it's wrapped in a conventional steel cradle frame with a more upright seating position. This is a completely naked bike, with virtually no plastic. No fairing, no windshield. It's much lighter than the PC, at 480 lbs wet. It's a very light handling machine. I took some roads that I frequented on the PC, and the ZR handled them almost TOO well . . making the turns didn't require nearly as much thought or effort on the ZR. Plus, it is inherently less tipover prone, which is a GOOD thing since it offers no tipover protection like the PC. The seating position is slightly more aggressive than the PC, but the wind blast supports your torso and neck at cruising speed, relieving the torso and neck of just about all pressure, making me think that the neck problems that I experienced with the PC will be less severe. The noise level is down too, since the wind blast is smooth and uncompressed . . I had to wear earplugs on the PC, with the compressed airstream beating the top of my helmet. The seat, while no-where near as wide as the PC's, was wider and more comfortable than I expected, even for the pillion. The passenger pegs look a little high, but I'll let my wife be the judge. I'm not comfortable enough yet with the bike to let her get on it with me. The engine is louder, and has a certain buzz to it that was absent on the PC, but it isn't bothersome, at least not yet. I'm still in the early break-in period, which limits me to 4k of the 10k redline, and they tell me the motor settles out a little bit higher in the rev range. It's no where near as smooth as the PC. Even limited to the 4k breakin rev limit, I can tell this thing is going to be very, very fast. It feels a LOT like the VFR in terms of it's willingness to rev and the instant acceleration. I guess in spirit, you could put the ZR-7 somewhere between the VFR800 and the Honda Magna. I can't wait to make use of the rev range. I think it puts 71 HP to the rear wheel. Still, there are a lot of things I'll miss about the PC. The lack of fairing on the ZR will definitely limit when I can ride. I could ride just about anytime of year on the PC. I'll miss the typical Honda refinement. I'll miss the trunk . . singularly unique to the PC. Kawasaki does offer dual side bags made by GIVI, and the frame is pre-threaded to accept all the hardware . . looks like they designed it with the light tourer in mind. Still, I won't be able to put my computer, duffle, AND bike cover on the bike and zip to the airport, because there's no way the ZR will haul the cargo the PC would, expecially with the 50 litre topcase I had, which also enabled me to strap a bunch of stuff to the rear seat (hope you're enjoying all that, Brad Nicholson!). I think the PC was second to NONE (including the Wing) in terms of cargo ability, because you could stuff things in the trunk that just wouldn't work in a side bag like on the Wing (like, umm, a case of beer and ice). I'll miss the low maintenance of the shaft drive . . the ZR has a chain. I'll miss the easy-to-clean plastic, because every nook and cranny is exposed on the ZR. I'll miss the low maintenance of the PC . . the ZR does not have self adjusting valves. Still, I like the new bike. Even limited to 4K of 10k of the rev range, I can tell this bike is going to be very, very quick. It is very elemental . . a throwback to motorcycling of 20 years or so ago, except now all of the componenents are more modern. I feel much closer to the road, more like I'm controlling the motorcycle and less like a passenger. What I really need is two bikes. The ZR-7 for the fun I like, and then a large displacement tourer (perhaps a Valk Tourer) for the long trips. I guess it comes down to what you want. The PC is a great bike, but not particularly suited for the type of riding I'll be limited to for the forseeable future: day tripping around the twisty, county backroads of Alabama. The ZR seems to fulfill my wish for a more spirited ride, without the look (or insurance rates)of the latest hyper-bikes. The MSRP of the bike comes in at only $5700 bucks . . a great performance/dollar ratio. My insurance is lower, I guess because I don't have all that tupperware liability. If I ever get back into the long distance touring, I'll definitely need a second bike, like the aforementioned large-displacement tourer. Thanks to Francois for giving me his opintions, good and bad, of the bike. It helped crystallize my thinking about what I really wanted out of motorcycling. And yes, Francois, you have an open invitation any time you're in Alabama to ride it as much as you'd like. And you Kenneth. And you Janet. And yes, even you Tim Davies, even though I know how much you'll disapprove of my "going green." Ride safe, and keep in touch. At least I didn't get a Harley! Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:11:01 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Desmond Cockburn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Dunlop 170/80-15 ? Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:11:42 -0800 The 170/80-15 fits a number of the new Shadows according to the Honda Web site, but if you want to risk the $150.00 I am sure that some people would be intrested in the results! Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: PC800: Dunlop 170/80-15 ? > >Hey PC Gang, > >One of the sure signs of spring is the arrival of the new motorcycle >catalogs. Can't wait for the new Comp. Accessories catalog. > >Was looking through the new Dennis Kirk catalog and noticed something that I >just had to ask the Gang about. In the tire section they list two rear >tires for the PC, a Dunlop K555 140/80-15 at $99.99 and a 170/80-15 for >$150.99 ! What is up with this ? > >The 170 indicates the tire is wider ? Wonder how come the great difference >in price ? Why a wider tire ? Betcha it will rub something !! > > > >Des, >95 PC, Dream Weaver >Okmulgee, Ok. >"When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. >It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 15:54:00 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filters, quality control & peace of mind Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:19:03 -0500 On Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:45:56 -0400, Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) wrote: >How long does the PC engine last with good oil? We don't know. >How long does the PC engine last with cheap oil? We don't know. >How long does the PC engine last with expensive filters? We don't know. >How long does the PC engine last with cheap filters? We don't know. >Why don't we know? Because there are no statistics for it. With >reasonably regular oil and filter changes of whatever brand, the engine >will be the LAST thing to wear out on your bike. Ought to be interesting, I usually change the oil in my vehicles every three years if I remember, I use Mobil One. Only vehicle I ever had die on me had 187K when the timing belt snapped... >Please people. Change your oil and filters regularly, be happy, and RIDE. Only been two years on the '93 Geo Tracker, but it's pushing 110k so what the heck, maybe I'll do it this year sometime. Actually, it needs the timing belt done, the clutch (I towed a travel trailer with it for 4000 miles and cooked it 'cause I couldn't figure out how to adjust it), freewheels don't engage. Anybody want it cheap? Seriously, looking to sell at 1000 under wholesale. While I'm at it, '81 GS450 for sale 30k miles, good bike to learn (a.k.a. dump a few times) on. Needs tune up (valves, one carb dirty), front tire way old but has good tread, back tire new last year but getting there, new chain and sprockets last year but should get an o-ring chain before sprockets get trashed again, new speedo and tach cables, and battery last year, comes with service manual and spare oil filter, $300 Happy Trails, Ron in Massachusetts -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:20:58 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk mat templates To: Peter Noeth Cc: PC800 You could have two pages to print out and then just paste them together. --- Peter Noeth wrote: > Coasters, > > I have sent my Honda trunk mat template to Juan > for him to try to scan it and > put it on the website. At this point, I don't think > that this is going to be a > workable idea, since the mats are approx 19" x 8", > larger than most people would > have paper in their printer for. > > I have received requests, not all have included > their home mailing address, so > I will be sending copies for those who have given me > an address. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, > '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: simple VISTA cruise query Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:59:48 -0800 Compition Accessories has the Throttle Rocker in their catalog and you can see it on their web site. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:11:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "jeff wessel" To: Subject: PC800: 1100cc PC Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:20:20 -0600 Powerhungry PC owners notice! Today I got my new Rider Magazine and in it there is a comparo of 1100cc cruisers. The three Hondas horsepower ratings are 45.0 @ 4,600 rpm (Shadow Aero) 52.8 @ 5,500 rpm (Shadow Sabre) and 50.5 @ 5,200 (Shadow Spirit). Torque is rated at 63.6 @ 2,900 (Shadow Aero) 62.3 @ 2,700 (Shadow Sabre) and 61.5 @ 3,300. These numbers are not impressive, I think we need to rethink our route to greater power. How about a XX motor LOL? More Power Yea!!! Jeff 90 PC (Freebee) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:55:41 -0800 Does anyone know if the Corbin backrest (I think this attaches to the Corbin seat with a post) can be used with a GIVI top box (360/460/maxia)? ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 5:16 AM Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? > DOTTI // The box is great and looks great on the PC800, but the back rest > sucks !! I have been working with the guys from Corbin to replace it using > the holes, or at least covering them, that are already in the E460. They are > going to bring so ideas to the Americade for me. I will let you know how I > make out. > > Ride Safe, > Jim T > Beachwood, NJ > 1996 PC 800 40K. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:00:21 -0800 My PC800 lost the little round rubber stopper/bumper that keeps the fuel = door from rattling. Does anyone know what size that thing is? I doubt = there is an official Honda part available (part #?), but I'm sure I can = get something close that will work. Also, the paint is work on both the = door and the little metal tab that meets it--does the rubber thingy go = on the door or on the rim of the hole where the fuel cap/trunk = release/idle adjust dwell? TIA. ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:14:17 -0500 Subject: PC800: PC Newbie questions PC800 Folks, I'm picking up a PC tomorrow and I haven't seen the owner's manual yet. I have a few questions about basics that I'm sure I can learn from the manual, but maybe someone could send some quick replies to this: - where is the fuel filler (under the seat, in the lockable trap door in front of the seat? - what's invbolved in checking oil - do you have to remove bodywork? - what's involved in checking the battery - do you have to remove bodywork? - what's involved in checking other key fluids (shaft drive? coolant?) - what's involved in adjusting suspension preload? Thanks, Joel 68 CB160, 80 GS550, 82 GS850, 95 CB750 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:31:11 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC Newbie questions Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:32:27 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: > > - where is the fuel filler (under the seat, in the lockable trap door in front > of the seat? The fuel filler is under the door. The tank is under the seat. The release lever for the trunk is also under the door. The knob on a rubber hose under the door is to adjust the idle. > > - what's invbolved in checking oil - do you have to remove bodywork? You remove the panel just inside your right foot. The dipstick is behind that. > > - what's involved in checking the battery - do you have to remove bodywork? Yes. The battery is buried under the seat. If the bike starts, that would be enough check for me. :-) > > - what's involved in checking other key fluids (shaft drive? coolant?) Coolant is under the little door on the right side of the fairing. You can sight the level by looking in under the headlight. There is a safety screw in the side of the cap that you have to loosen to remove the cap. The rear oil is a cap on the side of the rear end. > > - what's involved in adjusting suspension preload? There is a tool in the kit that you slide up onto a leg that hangs down from the left shock and another tool that you slide up into the first tool for extra leverage. You twist the collar on the shock to adjust it. And yes, I believe it is all in the book. > > Thanks, You're welcome. Steve Wilson, Ruston LA. > Joel > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC Newbie questions Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:33:01 -0800 Here is the abstract answer: Aside from the battery, you will find you really don't have to check the levels all that often on a PC.. Mine does not seem to burn any measurable amount between oil changes (I put on 2,800 mi/month), and other fluids (aside from the battery) always stay up as well. I think that is typical of PCs in good cond. The bottom line is that you should change the fluids, but you should rarely have to top off... Isn't it great? Jeff K. 95 PC, 30K Old girlfriends: Kawasaki: Coyote minibike, MT1-50, MC-90, G5-100, F7-175, KX-125, S3-400, (I was a corporate brat) Suzuki: GS-750 Honda: CL-350, CB-350-4, PC-800-current -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Joel F. Barlow [mailto:jbarlow@telcordia.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 1:14 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Newbie questions PC800 Folks, I'm picking up a PC tomorrow and I haven't seen the owner's manual yet. I have a few questions about basics that I'm sure I can learn from the manual, but maybe someone could send some quick replies to this: - where is the fuel filler (under the seat, in the lockable trap door in front of the seat? - what's invbolved in checking oil - do you have to remove bodywork? - what's involved in checking the battery - do you have to remove bodywork? - what's involved in checking other key fluids (shaft drive? coolant?) - what's involved in adjusting suspension preload? Thanks, Joel 68 CB160, 80 GS550, 82 GS850, 95 CB750 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 14:02:24 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: >Thanks to Francois for giving me his opintions, good and bad, of >the bike. >It helped crystallize my thinking about what I really wanted out of >motorcycling. And yes, Francois, you have an open invitation any >time >you're in Alabama to ride it as much as you'd like. And you >Kenneth. And >you Janet. And yes, even you Tim Davies, even though I know how >much >you'll disapprove of my "going green." > >Ride safe, and keep in touch. At least I didn't get a Harley! > >Doug Wilkerson Doug, feel free to go whatever color your heart desires. Just don't let Honda know you settled for a Kaw after test riding all those Hondas last summer in Ohio. They just might decide test rides are not worth it for the rest of us. I'm a former Kaw owner, but I just couldn't resist the lure of the Pacific Coast, red of course. I have only one question for you...have you located a new beaded seat for this bike to you can still have the most comfortable rear end of all of us:-)? Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:07:06 EST Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI E360/460 for top box? To: tpaxman@algcorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Corbin says that it will not, however thats one one the questions I hope to answer at the Americade. I feel that the metal post could be bent a little to fit. They say they would have to look at it first. Will keep you updated ride safe JIM T Beachwood,NJ 1996 PC800 40K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:01:49 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) >>Doug, feel free to go whatever color your heart desires. Just don't >>let Honda know you settled for a Kaw after test riding all those >>Hondas last summer in Ohio. They just might decide test rides are >>not worth it for the rest of us. I'm a former Kaw owner, but I just >>couldn't resist the lure of the Pacific Coast, red of course. >>I have only one question for you...have you located a new beaded >>seat for this bike to you can still have the most comfortable rear >>end of all of us:-)? >>Tim Davies Actually, it was the demo rides that made me think more about what it was that I really wanted out of motorcycling. The ST and Gold Wing didn't THRILL me, but I'm sure they're great for their intended missions. The Valkyrie with the cool pipes was something to behold, but also something I think I'd tire of. The Magna is *almost* the right idea, except it's a little cheesily styled, the seat is bad, the range is aweful (they tell me the ZR has a 250 mile range, with the 5.8 gallon gas tank), and I've never cared for the cruiser seating configuration. The VFR was particularly special, but I finally decided against the price, the aggressive seating position, and what would undoubtedly be high insurance premiums. The price for the VFR is very nearly twice what I paid, and yet the ZR-7 seems to have the same feel, power, and handling characteristics that I remember the VFR having. And the 750 Nitehawk? That's WAY too dull . . the Nitehawk can't hold a candle to this bike in terms of style and performance. And the Shadow? I think Honda builds the best Harleys ever made . . . but I didn't want a Honda Harley any more than I want a Harley Hardly. I really wanted a Honda. I do think Honda is second to none. I went to the Honda website FIRST, looking for something to ride. But, what does Honda have to compare, in terms of prices, style, and performance, to the Kawi ZR-7? Nothing. Perhaps the Hawk GT, but they don't make it any more. Like the PC, I think this bike cuts a unique path. There just aren't that many sporty, naked, upright bikes out there, just like there aren't many middleweight, fully-faired, trunk totin' sport tourers. I think that's what attracts me . . you can keep the harleys (and all the clones), and the hyperbikes. Give me something sensible, but something will a unique flair. I already miss my PC. I wish I could justify a multi-bike stable. No beaded seats yet . . . I wonder if Brad Nicholson left them on. If he didn't, he'll be sorry (and butt-achy) come summer time. Plus, I don't see more trips like the one to Ohio, so the need for the seat beads isn't as criticial. If I thought I was still going to do that, I wouldn't have sold the PC. The PC said to me: load me up and take me somewhere far, far away . . which I never had time to do. What it DIDN'T say was: take me out for a wild fling . . wham, bam, thank you mam, which I think the ZR will provide in spades. I'll stop rambling. I was just always interested in comparisons and contrasts of the PC to other rides, particularly since I was new to motorcycling. Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) on 03/03/2000 02:02:24 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Doug Wilkerson/Birmingham/IBM@IBMUS cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: >Thanks to Francois for giving me his opintions, good and bad, of >the bike. >It helped crystallize my thinking about what I really wanted out of >motorcycling. And yes, Francois, you have an open invitation any >time >you're in Alabama to ride it as much as you'd like. And you >Kenneth. And >you Janet. And yes, even you Tim Davies, even though I know how >much >you'll disapprove of my "going green." > >Ride safe, and keep in touch. At least I didn't get a Harley! > >Doug Wilkerson Doug, feel free to go whatever color your heart desires. Just don't let Honda know you settled for a Kaw after test riding all those Hondas last summer in Ohio. They just might decide test rides are not worth it for the rest of us. I'm a former Kaw owner, but I just couldn't resist the lure of the Pacific Coast, red of course. I have only one question for you...have you located a new beaded seat for this bike to you can still have the most comfortable rear end of all of us:-)? Tim Daviesh Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam To: pclist , scpcrc List The PC800 webcam now has a new, eaiser to remember URL: http://pc800.org Comments, suggestions welcome. John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:33:06 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam To: johnla@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) johnla@yahoo.com writes: >The PC800 webcam now has a new, eaiser to remember >URL: > >http://pc800.org > >Comments, suggestions welcome. > > >John Yes I have a suggestion, get a better parking space for your motorcycle that's closer to the camera lens! It snowed again last night and I want to see a Honda Pacific Coast shining in the warm sunlight again:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pclist , scpcrc List Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:13:12 -0800 John, I just checked your webcam and by luck managed to see you hop on the PC and drive off at 3:14. Your clock is 4 minutes fast by the way. This is the first time I have seen any action on the webcam during any of my few sporadic visits. Does your boss know you leave so early ????? Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bne005m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 23:25:52 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cnorloff@norloff.com, "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: hmmm.....440 miles divided by...... Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 17:45:52 PST The Maximum legal speed limit of 45mph, factor in a few rest stops, photo= opportunities.....lets see.....did you ride a 16 HOUR day Chris? Or is = the LAW enforcemnt there as I remember it from the 80's.....not too many = cops, and we passed two while we were ALL leaned over in a corner, they = just nodded, and went back to their rest break! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch I did > 440 miles on the Blue Ridge Parkway in one day :-) > > Rounded that tire right off. I heartily recommend it! > > :-) > Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam To: Peter Noeth , pclist , scpcrc List Hey- I'm back! Just a late lunch and a quick errand (work related of course!). I usually Get to work around 8 or 9 and leave around 5 or 6. Weekdays. And as long as my bosses computer works, she doesn't care where I am! I love my job! John --- Peter Noeth wrote: > John, > > I just checked your webcam and by luck managed to > see you hop on the PC and > drive off at 3:14. Your clock is 4 minutes fast by > the way. This is the first > time I have seen any action on the webcam during any > of my few sporadic visits. > Does your boss know you leave so early ????? > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, > '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== earn money online http://money.freeandeasy.com/ ** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam To: Peter Noeth , pclist , scpcrc List Hey- I'm back! Just a late lunch and a quick errand (work related of course!). I usually Get to work around 8 or 9 and leave around 5 or 6. Weekdays. And as long as my bosses computer works, she doesn't care where I am! I love my job! John --- Peter Noeth wrote: > John, > > I just checked your webcam and by luck managed to > see you hop on the PC and > drive off at 3:14. Your clock is 4 minutes fast by > the way. This is the first > time I have seen any action on the webcam during any > of my few sporadic visits. > Does your boss know you leave so early ????? > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, > '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== earn money online http://money.freeandeasy.com/ ** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pclist Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:35:53 -0800 Ahhhhh......So you are. And you backed in this time for a quick escape later, I see. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: John La > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 3:29 PM > To: Peter Noeth; pclist; scpcrc List > Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam > > Hey- I'm back! Just a late lunch and a quick errand > (work related of course!). I usually Get to work > around 8 or 9 and leave around 5 or 6. Weekdays. > > And as long as my bosses computer works, she doesn't > care where I am! I love my job! > > John > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <614CC7C21856D1118DA30060B06B4873016E999D@smf-nt-mail1.nsr.hp.com> <614CC7C21856D1118DA30060B06B4873016E999D@smf-nt-mail1.nsr.hp.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:05:27 -0500 To: Peter Noeth From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: PC800.ORG - webcam Cc: pclist , scpcrc List At 3:13 PM -0800 3/3/00, Peter Noeth wrote: >John, > > I just checked your webcam and by luck managed to see you hop on the PC and >drive off at 3:14. Your clock is 4 minutes fast by the way. This is the first >time I have seen any action on the webcam during any of my few >sporadic visits. >Does your boss know you leave so early ????? > >Regards, > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech >Quantum trailer. Hi Peter! John would have left even earlier but I paged him so he could wave into the camera for me! He was already wearing his jacket when I saw him at 3:05 ! Between the two of us, we probably made him stay later than he wanted to on a Friday afternoon ! Ride safe. fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bne004m.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 00:07:30 -0000 Read-Receipt-To: "Ronald Grant" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: chronological listing..... Date: Fri, 05 Mar 99 10:04:23 PST Hi Guys!! Whats happening? I just went to the pc list chron. listing for March, fou= nd ONE letter I had sent a few days ago on Painting the PC, , and the let= ter was NOT all there. Only a few lines of a long post. But when I got = my copy from the list of the post it looked OK. Me puzzzled. Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:01:39 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:03:02 -0600 Hey Todd, I checked my 95PC and there are no rubbers on the fuel door or where the door rest. I don't think there ever were. It wouldn't hurt to go to Radio Shack and get a couple of the little stick on rubbers but you will have to trim them down to about 1/16" thick or the door will stick up above the surface of the tank when the door is closed. You may be better off looking at Wal Mart for some foam tape that is real thin so you won't have to trim it. How in the word did you hear the door rattling in the first place? Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles My PC800 lost the little round rubber stopper/bumper that keeps the fuel door from rattling. Does anyone know what size that thing is? I doubt there is an official Honda part available (part #?), but I'm sure I can get something close that will work. Also, the paint is work on both the door and the little metal tab that meets it--does the rubber thingy go on the door or on the rim of the hole where the fuel cap/trunk release/idle adjust dwell? TIA. ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:22:29 -0800 It seems to me the paint is rubbed and worn in a little round circle, both on the door and the door rest. I only hear it rattling right after I start the bike, when it's idling or while I leave my neighborhood at slow speeds. After a few miles of freeway, I can't hear it even when I slow down--either it stops rattling (unlikely), or my hearing is de-sensitized by the wind noise. I know it's the fuel door, because I can push down on it to make it stop. Is this really a unique problem? I can't believe I'm that unlucky! I have some foam tape I can try, but I think it's sticky on both sides. I'll let you know what I find out. ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 5:03 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles > Hey Todd, I checked my 95PC and there are no rubbers on the fuel door or > where the door rest. I don't think there ever were. It wouldn't hurt to > go to Radio Shack and get a couple of the little stick on rubbers but > you will have to trim them down to about 1/16" thick or the door will > stick up above the surface of the tank when the door is closed. You may > be better off looking at Wal Mart for some foam tape that is real thin > so you won't have to trim it. How in the word did you hear the door > rattling in the first place? > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd M. Paxman" > To: "PC800 List" > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 12:00 PM > Subject: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles > > > My PC800 lost the little round rubber stopper/bumper that keeps the fuel > door from rattling. Does anyone know what size that thing is? I doubt > there is an official Honda part available (part #?), but I'm sure I can > get something close that will work. Also, the paint is work on both the > door and the little metal tab that meets it--does the rubber thingy go > on the door or on the rim of the hole where the fuel cap/trunk > release/idle adjust dwell? > > TIA. > ________________________ > Todd M. Paxman > Ashworth Leininger Group > 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 > Thousand Oaks, CA > PH: (805) 370-1474 > FX: (805) 370-1471 > tpaxman@algcorp.com > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:24:49 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Todd M. Paxman" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:26:09 -0600 Cover the top sticky side of the tape with clear scotch tape. My door has the little round worn places too. Must be the way it was molded. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 List" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:22 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles > It seems to me the paint is rubbed and worn in a little round circle, both > on the door and the door rest> I have some foam tape I can try, but I think it's sticky on both sides. I'll > let you know what I find out. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <003c01bf8575$650a39a0$d45932cf@tcac.net> <004301bf8578$1c3888a0$5c76fea9@dsl.gtei.net> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:33:42 -0500 To: "Todd M. Paxman" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Cc: "PC800 List" At 5:22 PM -0800 3/3/00, Todd M. Paxman wrote: >It seems to me the paint is rubbed and worn in a little round circle, both >on the door and the door rest. I only hear it rattling right after I start >the bike, when it's idling or while I leave my neighborhood at slow speeds. >After a few miles of freeway, I can't hear it even when I slow down--either >it stops rattling (unlikely), or my hearing is de-sensitized by the wind >noise. I know it's the fuel door, because I can push down on it to make it >stop. > >Is this really a unique problem? I can't believe I'm that unlucky! I have the same rattle. I always thought that it stopped once the bike got warmed up, since the fuel door and top shelter are sitting right on top of the engine. I know that the noise is more prominent in the colder weather, and it takes longer for it to go away in November than it does in July! Ride safe. fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dunlop 170/80-15 ? Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:53:32 PST >From: "Jim Alexander" >The 170/80-15 fits a number of the new Shadows according to the Honda Web >site, but if you want to risk the $150.00 I am sure that some people would >be intrested in the results! The first thought that ran through my mind was some poor guy ordering the tire expecting it to fit his PC. But then I remembered that PC riders are amoung the most knowledgeable riders on the Road and would never think that a 170 series tire would fit under the trunk anyway. You riders have a great Spring. Des ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC a collectors item ? Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 18:09:21 PST Hey gang, Earlier this week, for want of anything better to do, was hanging out in a Honda Shadow chat room on Delphi. As is usual the room asked what I ride and when I told them a PC they allowed as how the bike was a collectors item. Is the PC a collectors item or will it likely be in the next few years ? What makes a bike a collectors model ? Number produced, ie the Honda GB 500 ? I plan to keep this 95 for a long time but doubt that a 5 year old Honda is a collectors item ! Rare in my part of the country but no collectors bike. Des ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Boz" To: , Subject: PC800: Brother! Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:54:29 -0000 I to must admit that I am a green convert! 1st Kaw.... a 99 ZRX1100. Folks, I came up through the Honda ranks, did the '78 CX500(what a RIOT when THAT email came thru!... Memr'ys....), 84 V45 Magna, then my '97 PC (which is still for sale, btw...) This ZReX is me, I am the ZReX. It's the 50's hotrod I never had, the 70's muscle car I was too busy working to afford.... I've got 800 miles on it since Nov 15th delivery, 200 last weekend, definately an oddity in CNY in Feb ('cept for PCRider Tim, maybe). My cheeks are still sore after all the grinnin' that went on under the helmet.... So! Dwilkers, If you're in the area someday, let's ride! Y'all in Central NY, if'n you see the Mean Green Boz Machine (ok!!!!!!! I gave in!!! enough of the Vespa on steriods remarks!!!.... I'm so ashamed) pull up along side, wave, HI! an ex PC (and if I had ANY sense in m'haid a "still") pilot, Boz. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 22:48:28 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Brother! To: jboz@sprynet.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jboz@sprynet.com writes: >I've got 800 miles on it since Nov 15th delivery, 200 last weekend, >definately an oddity in CNY in Feb ('cept for PCRider Tim, maybe). > My >cheeks are still sore after all the grinnin' that went on under the >helmet.... > >Boz. I too would have taken advantage of the great weekend weather (even though my foot was still sore from a fall on a sidewalk the week before), but I was in Ottawa, Canada visiting with other Pacific Coasters, losing money at the casino, and generally just vegging out. So I guess you've got me beat for miles in February around here Boz. If I don't see you on the road with your "Mean Green Boz Machine" maybe I'll see you in Syracuse on Sunday, May 21 for the Children's Miracle Network ride.I'll be the one on on the 1998 PC800 with the inquisitive crowd around it:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:52:33 -0600 suscribe pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 22:57:06 -0800 From: Roger Pariseau To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: PC800 Rider , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > And the 750 Nitehawk? That's WAY too dull . . the Nitehawk > can't hold a candle to this bike in terms of style and performance. To each their own. But the NH is NOT slow: 0~60 at 3.4 ~ 3.6 is not slow. True, if you're looking for a babe magnet, the NH might not be it -- but I get lots of looks and they sure aren't looking at me! I've modified someone else's charting efforts below: Parameter PC80097 Concours ST1100 CB750 NH ZR-7 --------- ------- -------- ------ -------- ---- ¼ mile time 14.36 12.10 12.47 12.28 NA ¼ mile speed 84.10 108.06 107.90 108.4 NA 0-60 time 6.09 3.85 4.38 3.6 * NA Top speed 108 126 132 126 ** NA 60 - 0 dist 115' 126' 120' 125.65' NA Mpg 49.3 34.9 37.9 44.8 50+ Tank gallons 4.2 7.5 7.4 4.8 5.8 Range 207 262 281 215 250 Hp 45.6 88.4 88.3 66.7 76.0 Torque 41.0 63.3 70.9 43.7 46.5 Transmission 5 spd 6 spd 5 spd 5 spd 5 spd Drive Shaft Shaft Shaft Chain Chain Wheel base 61.2" 61.0" 61.2" 59.3" 57.3" Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 28.5/4.8 27.5/4.0 29/4.6 25.5/3.66 Seat height 30.1" 32.0" 31.5" 30.9" 32.09" Ground clear 5.5" 5.1" 5.7" 5.5" 5.12" Weight 620# 618# 726# 463# 445# Engine V Twin Inline 4 V Four Inline 4 Inline 4 Approx Cost 7,500 9,299 13,999 5,799 5,699 Source MCN MCN MCN Honda & Kawasaki & Reviews Reviews * Sources vary from 3.8 high, 3.4 low. ** Sources vary from 132 high, 118 low. The Nighthawk has its problems none of which affect its ability to start every time, stay in front of all but the monsters from the stop lights, make it through the turns nicely, and run for several full turns of the odometer without expensive repairs. It does want to stand up but it requires very little effort to make it lean. With something better than the stock tires, it handles very well indeed. I'll concede the lousy brakes: they do take a lot of effort to bring the bike down. -- Roger '96 CB750 (among others) A Point A to Point B rider so long as there's a canyon inbetween. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E2A48M42; Sat, 04 Mar 2000 02:36:55 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 00:40:02 -0700 Subject: PC800: PEG LEG ADJUSTMENTS ADJUST YOURSELF 1) INSTALLATION TRICK BY RANDY A: Since I'm Off-List I've no way to know if Randy submitted his installation tip online. As best I can recall, Randy said he roughed up the crash bar tube where the clamp was to be mounted. He used an abrasive Dremel Tool wheel, of which I am now the proud owner thanks to Kneel T ('94 PC, Little Wing). Hmmm! Is that more than you wanted to know? To keep the clamps AND bracket from slipping, he applied generous amounts of J-B Weld before, during and after clamp and bracket installation. Everyone knows that J-B Weld is the penicillin of biking ..... along with used (an important aspect) popsicle sticks, Shoe Goo (NOT Plumber's Goo), Stix All by Borden, wooden toothpicks yadda yadda yadda. Um, er, I apologize in advance if I remembered Randy's name incorrectly. I'm home, his email is at work and so is my brain. *UH, OH* Having had my bracket slip recently .... like while it was still in dry dock in the garage, before turning the key and revving the engine and moving farther than the kickstand permitted .... I AM CERTAINLY GOING TO TRY RANDY'S SUGGESTION as soon as I can coax Mr. Muscle to help me remove the covers and clamps. 2) LONG-LEGGED LISTERS: It is possible some of you have an inseam that is longer than my 36" (minus 8") and the pegs will seem a wee bit short and/or you'd like them to stick out from the bike a tad more. To effect the latter (assuming you're using the Bike Master Footpegs #17-1250 10mm Buddy) add four extra washers (for a total of five) to the outside and use only one on the inside. It will give you 3/8" more distance away from the cover. You might be surprised at how much an extra 3/8" can add to your pleasure. *OOOH, AAAH* Also, you can sit on the back seat (it's not just for passengers) if you want to really s-t-r-e-t-c-h- out which I do frequently. David extended my handlebars 3/4" which is TWICE as much as 3/8". Trust me!! That extra little bit makes a HUGE difference. Try it. You MIGHT like it! *OR, NOT* Of course, you can always rest your ankle or calf of your leg on the pegs; actually that is not as uncomfortable as it sounds. I kinda like it 'cause I can twirl my ankles, wriggle my toes and dangle my feet over the edge. Oops! I resemble that remark ... over the edge. *OUCH* Goodnight! Ann '89 PC-AZ, Ghost Coast '90 PC-AZ, Red Cloud Sat. 3.4.2000 00:40 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:39:54 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles To: tpaxman@algcorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have had the same rattly noise when first starting out. It goes away for me too. Sometimes I think it is the gas cover and other times i am not sure...but after the bike warms up it luckily is gone...:) Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:29:44 -0800 > I have had the same rattly noise when first starting out. It goes away for > me too Me too. It is the furgate bracket, which abuts the dinkle plate. There was originally a small gasket there, #36689-03-AN6, but Honda skipped it as a cost cutting measure, preferring instead to put that money to work lowering the price to entice more riders in the showroom door. The fix is simple, and Selden will be thankful here that a Hawk part can be substituted. Remove the front galton bolts, usually three, on any UJM or Hawk. CX500s don't have them. The cover plate will pry off. Inside there is a locknut on a threaded shaft with an allen socket. Loosen the nut. Go around to the other side and there it is--a small gasket, on the floor. Tighten those bolts back up in reverse order and get out of there before the owner of the bike returns. Putting the gasket back on a PC takes a little bit of a Tupperware party, but it is worth it. Just remember that each turn of the thorndike adjuster alters the fleebence of the front wheel by 2mm. It is good to bink a couple of marks so you can return it to its original, usually factory, position. Diddling with the thorndike adjuster will be covered in future chapters. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Fuel Door Cover Rattles "Todd M. Paxman" writes: > My PC800 lost the little round rubber stopper/bumper that keeps the > fuel door from rattling. Does anyone know what size that thing is? > I doubt there is an official Honda part available (part #?), but > I'm sure I can get something close that will work. Also, the paint > is work on both the door and the little metal tab that meets it--does > the rubber thingy go on the door or on the rim of the hole where the > fuel cap/trunk release/idle adjust dwell? I've never seen a bumper in there, but can offer two possible solutions: 1) There are two small "fingers" extending back from the front edge of the "shelter". Get some self-stick vinyl, cork, or felt padding, about 1/16" thick, and cut two small half circles. Stick these to the corresponding places on the underside of the fuel door lid. This should stop the rattling. 2) Unbolt the fuel door lid and clean the edge thoroughly. Run a bead of black silicone rubber all the way around the perimeter of the underside of the fuel door. Set aside 15 minutes to "skin" over. Place a thin coating of lubricant (oil, grease, vaseline, whatever) around the channel in the shelter into which the fuel door fits. Re-attach the fuel door to its hinge, then close it and lock. The silicone rubber may ooze slightly. This is OK. Let it sit for at least 2 hours (possibly less in warm weather or bright sunlight). Better yet, go for a ride; the engine heat will speed curing. Remove the fuel door again and trim off any rough edges from the cured silicone rubber with a razor blade. This "gasket not only stops rattling, but helps redirect fuel vapors vented from the gas cap, or fueling spills in the well, reducing "fuel smell" from this part of the bike. These two mods can be used together. Since they are on the underside of the fuel door lid, they are completely invisible when it is closed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? "Desmond Cockburn" writes: > Earlier this week, for want of anything better to do, was hanging out > in a Honda Shadow chat room on Delphi. As is usual the room asked what > I ride and when I told them a PC they allowed as how the bike was a > collectors item. > > Is the PC a collectors item or will it likely be in the next few years ? If we could predict collectors items in advance, we would all be much wealthier. The PC definitely has potential. I think the key factors for a bike to become a collectors item are: 1) Poor and/or low sales during its period on the market 2) Basically good design 3) Fanatical owners (this group provides plenty of evidence) The PC800, like Honda's HawkGT and GB500, meets all these criteria, and has potential. I don't expect prices to move much in the next 5 years; in other words, you should be able to buy a used PC, and sell it for not much less than you paid for it, possibly more. It will be interesting to see if the "classic" PCs with the aero front end, or the revised models from 97-98 hold value better. MCN had a good article on the topic, "Cult Cycle Collectibles," in the November 1999 issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 11:08:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? To: libssd@emory.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: >I don't expect prices to move much in the next 5 >years; in other words, you should be able to buy a used PC, and >sell >it for not much less than you paid for it, possibly more. It will >be >interesting to see if the "classic" PCs with the aero front end, or >the revised models from 97-98 hold value better. If Arvid Lovik's results in selling a "classic" Honda Pacific Coast are any indication, we can make a sizable PROFIT right now on any investment we may have in our great motorcycles. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 17:23:48 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wong Wing Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 11:49:21 -0500 Anybody mounted a Givi top case on a Wong Wing? What bracket did you use? Were you able to retain your backrest? Thanks, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 11:07:17 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: Lee Barker CC: Ridr44@aol.com, tpaxman@algcorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Door Cover Rattles Lee Barker wrote: > > > I have had the same rattly noise when first starting out. It goes away > for > > me too > > Me too. It is the furgate bracket, which abuts the dinkle plate. There was > originally a small gasket there, #36689-03-AN6, but Honda skipped it as a > cost cutting measure, preferring instead to put that money to work lowering > the price to entice more riders in the showroom door. > > The fix is simple, and Selden will be thankful here that a Hawk part can be > substituted. Remove the front galton bolts, usually three, on any UJM or > Hawk. CX500s don't have them. The cover plate will pry off. Inside there > is a locknut on a threaded shaft with an allen socket. Loosen the nut. Go > around to the other side and there it is--a small gasket, on the floor. > > Tighten those bolts back up in reverse order and get out of there before the > owner of the bike returns. > > Putting the gasket back on a PC takes a little bit of a Tupperware party, > but it is worth it. Just remember that each turn of the thorndike adjuster > alters the fleebence of the front wheel by 2mm. It is good to bink a couple > of marks so you can return it to its original, usually factory, position. > > Diddling with the thorndike adjuster will be covered in future chapters. > Yeah? Well I still think it's the warp plasma injectors. Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Roger Pariseau" , Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:43:39 -0800 Roger, the following is not a direct response to you. Your post just got me thinking about what criteria are use in choosing a motorcycle and the weight give to performance numbers and other characteristics. Test numbers have a fairly wide range of variation. If we are talking about a 2000 Honda Nighthawk 750 as tested in Motorcycle Consumer News - March 2000 issue. Top Speed 118 1/4 mile 12.74 sec. @ 103.14 mph. 0-60 mph 4.47 sec. My point, in this PC800 group, is not who has the best numbers but that the only they vary. I've seen numbers on the PC800 all over the board with significant differences such as 1 sec+. in the 0-60 mph times. So what? Does that make any difference in my enjoyment of riding the bike? Yes, we need to make judgements when deciding which bike might suit our needs, our desires. What combination of qualities meet our desires best? The elegance of the trunk, nibble handling, riding a uniquely styled bike, and having the best color, candy apple red. Yes brakes and speed and acceleration and impecable handling.... are important but how all the bike's qualities and rider's characteristics blend are still more important. One persons dull is another's hearts desire. Rick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Pariseau" To: Cc: "PC800 Rider" ; Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Re: PC800: I'm riding again . . team green (long) dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > And the 750 Nitehawk? That's WAY too dull . . the Nitehawk > can't hold a candle to this bike in terms of style and performance. To each their own. But the NH is NOT slow: 0~60 at 3.4 ~ 3.6 is not slow. True, if you're looking for a babe magnet, the NH might not be it -- but I get lots of looks and they sure aren't looking at me! I've modified someone else's charting efforts below: Parameter PC80097 Concours ST1100 CB750 NH ZR-7 --------- ------- -------- ------ -------- ---- ¼ mile time 14.36 12.10 12.47 12.28 NA ¼ mile speed 84.10 108.06 107.90 108.4 NA 0-60 time 6.09 3.85 4.38 3.6 * NA Top speed 108 126 132 126 ** NA 60 - 0 dist 115' 126' 120' 125.65' NA Mpg 49.3 34.9 37.9 44.8 50+ Tank gallons 4.2 7.5 7.4 4.8 5.8 Range 207 262 281 215 250 Hp 45.6 88.4 88.3 66.7 76.0 Torque 41.0 63.3 70.9 43.7 46.5 Transmission 5 spd 6 spd 5 spd 5 spd 5 spd Drive Shaft Shaft Shaft Chain Chain Wheel base 61.2" 61.0" 61.2" 59.3" 57.3" Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 28.5/4.8 27.5/4.0 29/4.6 25.5/3.66 Seat height 30.1" 32.0" 31.5" 30.9" 32.09" Ground clear 5.5" 5.1" 5.7" 5.5" 5.12" Weight 620# 618# 726# 463# 445# Engine V Twin Inline 4 V Four Inline 4 Inline 4 Approx Cost 7,500 9,299 13,999 5,799 5,699 Source MCN MCN MCN Honda & Kawasaki & Reviews Reviews * Sources vary from 3.8 high, 3.4 low. ** Sources vary from 132 high, 118 low. The Nighthawk has its problems none of which affect its ability to start every time, stay in front of all but the monsters from the stop lights, make it through the turns nicely, and run for several full turns of the odometer without expensive repairs. It does want to stand up but it requires very little effort to make it lean. With something better than the stock tires, it handles very well indeed. I'll concede the lousy brakes: they do take a lot of effort to bring the bike down. -- Roger '96 CB750 (among others) A Point A to Point B rider so long as there's a canyon inbetween. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: PC800: Not PC realated, but..... Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:28:02 -0000 It can happen to anyone! A cautionary tale! The drive to my garage is about 25 yards long and tends to retain a fair bit of mud and standing water after prolonged rainfall...even though the main road it turns onto is dry...I know this... So, for the last fifteen years... When turning out onto the main road I'm always cautious with both lean angle and amount of acceleration as the tyres are still cold and damp... Today, as always, I was careful turning left out onto the dry main road... But... Having turned, I saw a friend I wanted to speak to walking towards me...immediately checked my mirrors and saw that a bus was about 100 yards up the road...if I had pulled over there and then to speak to said friend, I would have obstructed a bus stop so I turned left up a side road that is directly after my drive and stopped there... Had a nice chat for about 5 minutes... Chat over, I am now turning left out onto the main road from the side road that is parallel to my drive...this side road is dry but my tyres aren't...too much lean and too much right wrist and a very elegant rotating, low side, donut and me interfacing with the tarmac... No damage to me but the Triumph, not the world's prettiest bike anyway, is somewhat scarred, ugly and un-rideable with a completely mullered gear change assembly... So that's it...no diesel, no Volvo, no-one else's fault... just 'pilot error'... By me Robin Bernard, Advanced Rider, RoSPA Gold, RoSPA observer, 30 years experience with no major incidents... The lesson I have learnt is to be more beware of distractions that could change the pattern of my ride...feel for grip before accelerating and not assume everything is normal for the conditions I'm riding in... Anyone had a similar experience recently?...or am I the only one to make a dunce of myself!!? Robin the confessor. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:45:06 -0800 From: Bob Ronecker To: Selden Deemer CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? boundary="------------BF10EA4D07CC469DE13F2ED3" --------------BF10EA4D07CC469DE13F2ED3 Anyone interested in purchasing one of these future classics can find a 98 model, loaded, beautiful for $4400 according to an ad in the St Louis Post paper today. Being sold by Napleton Honda Phone number 314-9281155 Go for it guys and gals Bob Ronecker 94PC --------------BF10EA4D07CC469DE13F2ED3 Anyone interested in purchasing one of these future classics can
find a 98 model, loaded, beautiful for $4400 according to an ad
in the St Louis Post paper today. Being sold by Napleton Honda
Phone number 314-9281155
Go for it guys and gals
Bob Ronecker
94PC
  --------------BF10EA4D07CC469DE13F2ED3-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: '90 PC @ Taylor M/C... Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:11:26 PST I stopped at Taylor Motorcycles in Woodburn, OR, the other day just to say "hi" and see what they had on the floor. They just took in a '90 with only 29K on trade; it was very, very clean. The front tire was at the wear bars; I was assured that they were going to throw a new tire on prior to sale. And the price? Let's hear the drum roll...only $3,000! Looking for a great deal on a used PC? Call (800)981-1813. Look at that--a great deal and a free pone call too! The usual disclaimers apply regarding my lack of any financial benefit for the sale of their bikes, etc. In the past, however, I have raved on this list about what a good bike shop it is. I've always been able to get great prices on tires, etc., and Dave in their repair shop is the best wrench at a dealer shop that I've run into. OBTW, the Stealth needs a new turn signal switch; it's been going out for a while now. Hard to turn on and hard to turn off. I checked at another shop--$110 for a lousy switch! I mentioned this to Eric @ Taylor and he left me a message the following day that he could get me the same switch for $60! Sold! Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 109K and Havin' Fun "I have made good judgments in the Past. I have made good judgments in the Future. The future will be better tomorrow." - Former VP Dan Quayle. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: Bob Ronecker cc: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? I'm really surprised that a dealer is asking a price this low for a 98; it's about what MSN list as the current market price for a 1995 model. A classified has been running in the Atlanta paper for a couple of weeks for a 1998, asking $4950. Makes it tough for the other seller of a 1998 whose ad is asking $6800 for a 1998 PC. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Bob Ronecker wrote: > Anyone interested in purchasing one of these future classics > can find a 98 model, loaded, beautiful for $4400 according to an > ad in the St Louis Post paper today. Being sold by Napleton Honda > Phone number 314-9281155 > Go for it guys and gals > Bob Ronecker > 94PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Venco Wings" To: "Jim Venne" Subject: PC800: Venco Wings is on the move! Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:22:21 -0500 Importance: Normal Venco Wings is on the move! We are in the process of relocating our home and business to Loudon, New Hampshire, the home of New Hampshire International Speedway. In the process we must change our e-mail and WEB site. Our new address is sales@vencowings.com and our new web address is http://www.vencowings.com. In 2 weeks we will publish our new phone number and directions. In the mean time, we can still be reached at (603) 225-0565, Stay tuned for more information. Jim Venne / Venco Wings, L.L.C. 1998 Silver SE (mine) 1995 Green Aspencade (Sue's) Concord, NH GWRRA member 47171 http://www.vencowings.com new e-mail sales@vencowings.com Jim Venne Venco Wings, L.L.C 7 Shaker Rd Concord, NH 03301 (603) 225-0565 http://www.vencowings.com New e-mail sales@vencowings.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Job" , Subject: Re: PC800: Not PC realated, but..... Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:00:34 -0800 Oh of course, you are the only one who could have done this. I better hurry up and remove some stuff from my web site before you find out there are at least two riders who have screwed up. Life happens, just don't walk in the same hole twice (or better, see the hole and avoid it). Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Job To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: PC800: Not PC realated, but..... >It can happen to anyone! A cautionary tale! > >The drive to my garage is about 25 yards long and tends to retain a fair bit >of mud and standing water after prolonged rainfall...even though the main >road it turns onto is dry...I know this... > >So, for the last fifteen years... >When turning out onto the main road I'm always cautious with both lean angle >and amount of acceleration as the tyres are still cold and damp... > >Today, as always, I was careful turning left out onto the dry main road... > >But... >Having turned, I saw a friend I wanted to speak to walking towards >me...immediately checked my mirrors and saw that a bus was about 100 yards >up the road...if I had pulled over there and then to speak to said friend, I >would have obstructed a bus stop so I turned left up a side road that is >directly after my drive and stopped there... > >Had a nice chat for about 5 minutes... > >Chat over, I am now turning left out onto the main road from the side road >that is parallel to my drive...this side road is dry but my tyres >aren't...too much lean and too much right wrist and a very elegant rotating, >low side, donut and me interfacing with the tarmac... > >No damage to me but the Triumph, not the world's prettiest bike anyway, is >somewhat scarred, ugly and un-rideable with a completely mullered gear >change assembly... > >So that's it...no diesel, no Volvo, no-one else's fault... just 'pilot >error'... >By me Robin Bernard, Advanced Rider, RoSPA Gold, RoSPA observer, 30 >years experience with no major incidents... > >The lesson I have learnt is to be more beware of distractions that could >change >the pattern of my ride...feel for grip before accelerating and not assume >everything is normal for the conditions I'm riding in... > >Anyone had a similar experience recently?...or am I the only one to make a >dunce of myself!!? > >Robin the confessor. > > > > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 06:59:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 06:59:19 EST Subject: Re: PC800: '90 PC vs 89 PC (for Sale) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/4/00 6:12:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: << The front tire was at the wear bars; I was assured that they were going to throw a new tire on prior to sale. And the price? Let's hear the drum roll...only $3,000! Looking for a great deal on a used PC? >> On the east coast I have an 89 for sale w/ 43K Backrest Trunklights Mudflap New tires New Clearview Very clean All records! I'll match the $3k price but can't do a toll free 800# Rob Cary NC 96 PC w/5.5 K 89 PC w/43 K (4 Sale) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:50:12 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: PC800: Distance As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in September and having to decide on how many days I have to take off work,,,can anyone give me a rough estimate on how long it would take to drive from Detroit, MI to Eureka, Calf.?? Thanks for any input. Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 **************** /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ **************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: "Selden Deemer" , "Bob Ronecker" Cc: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:49:30 -0600 Selden, Napleton Honda is a Honda CAR dealership. I assume that they took the bike in trade and have no idea what they have. I have seen two 98s for sale at St. Louis MC dealerships and the going price is over $6K. For someone looking for a good deal on a PC, ignorance can truly be bliss. Mark Gilb Arnold, Mo. 95 PC800 (Black, of course) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Selden Deemer" To: "Bob Ronecker" Cc: "PC 800 List" Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? > I'm really surprised that a dealer is asking a price this low for a > 98; it's about what MSN list as the current market price for a 1995 > model. A classified has been running in the Atlanta paper for a couple > of weeks for a 1998, asking $4950. Makes it tough for the other seller > of a 1998 whose ad is asking $6800 for a 1998 PC. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Bob Ronecker wrote: > > > Anyone interested in purchasing one of these future classics > > can find a 98 model, loaded, beautiful for $4400 according to an > > ad in the St Louis Post paper today. Being sold by Napleton Honda > > Phone number 314-9281155 > > Go for it guys and gals > > Bob Ronecker > > 94PC > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:59:17 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Distance To: "g.castle" Cc: PC800 http://maps.looksmart.com/looksmart/startdd.hm Detroit, MI to Eureka, CA 2612.44 miles 2301.65 minutes or 38.36 hours One option I have thought about is shipping my bike out there. Doing the trip and driving back. --- "g.castle" wrote: > As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in > September and having to > decide on how many days I have to take off > work,,,can anyone give me a rough > estimate on how long it would take to drive from > Detroit, MI to Eureka, Calf.?? > > Thanks for any input. > > Greg Castle > Keswick,Ontario,Canada > 89 PC800 > > **************** > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > **************** ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:53:24 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Distance Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:54:56 -0600 My Street Atlas program says it is 2600 miles and 41 hours. How many days, depends on your butt. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "g.castle" To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: PC800: Distance > As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in September and having to > decide on how many days I have to take off work,,,can anyone give me a rough > estimate on how long it would take to drive from Detroit, MI to Eureka, Calf.?? > > Thanks for any input. > > Greg Castle > Keswick,Ontario,Canada > 89 PC800 > > **************** > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > **************** > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: rain in Southern California To: pclist , scpcrc List Sunday afternoon around 1pm "Pacific Coast" time... I'm not there (no work on Sunday) but for those of you who want a rare chance to see Southern California Rain, Check out the web cam... http://pc800.org John PS- That little white cart is what I use to get around the university when I have to move computers, etc. ===== earn money online http://money.freeandeasy.com/ ** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:48:26 -0500 To: "g.castle" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Distance Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 11:50 AM -0500 3/5/00, g.castle wrote: >As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in September and having to >decide on how many days I have to take off work,,,can anyone give me a rough >estimate on how long it would take to drive from Detroit, MI to >Eureka, Calf.?? > >Thanks for any input. > >Greg Castle >Keswick,Ontario,Canada >89 PC800 Hi Greg... My Automap software shows the route from Alliston to Eureka as 2,789 miles driven in 44 hours and 45 minutes. Have fun... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:32:43 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: John La CC: pclist , scpcrc List Subject: Re: PC800: rain in Southern California John: Thanks for the heads up, but it looks a lot like Alabama rain to me. . . Tony John La wrote: > > Sunday afternoon around 1pm "Pacific Coast" time... > > I'm not there (no work on Sunday) but for those of you > who want a rare chance to see Southern California > Rain, Check out the web cam... > > http://pc800.org > > John > PS- That little white cart is what I use to get around > the university when I have to move computers, etc. > > ===== > earn money online > http://money.freeandeasy.com/ > > ** > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:18:11 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: , "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Distance Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:19:10 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Distance can anyone give me a rough > estimate on how long it would take to drive from Detroit, MI to Eureka, Calf.?? > Greg Castle > Keswick,Ontario,Canada > 89 PC800 MapBlast at: http://www.mapblast.com/mblast/index.mb tells Me that Your trip's estimated travel time is 38 hours, 21 minutes for 2612.44 miles of travel. Regards Arvid Stavanger, Norway http://lovik.tripod.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sealskinz (was Wet Weather Riding) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:37:19 PST Michael Linkous sez: While kinda on the topic, I thought I would mention the gloves that I use in the rain.... Sealskinz..... www.sealskinz.com . They are awesome. I left this one from Michael sitting for a while because I didn't want to be viewed as one who jumps in on every "wet weather" topic. But, surprisingly, no one else responded (at least publicly) even though we usually chat about good gear references. I would like to unhesitatingly second Michael's prize find, as I've been wearing Sealskinz for years. I found them locally in a GI Joe's outlet for about $30. As anyone who rides in a wide variety of weather knows, you tend to get specialized about certain things. Gloves are definitely there for me, since I eschew heated gloves. I have a great pair of cold and wet weather gloves (30-50 degrees) and another pair of cold and dry weather gloves (25-50 degrees). My third pair is for warm and dry conditions, but I didn't really have good warm and wet (about 50 degrees) gloves. Until I found Sealskinz. And, as Michael attested to, they're great. They're form fitted and don't bunch up on your palm, and the rubberized "grippies" give you a good firm hold on the grips and leave you with great dexterity for dealing with fine motor reflex-type things like turn signals, etc. And as far as keeping your hands dry--they're unbelievable. Which is really weird at first because the non-rubberized part of the gloves over the back of your hand and fingers feels like tight-knitted cotton, but don't allow any water through. I've used them down to the low 40s, but at speed at that temp the back of your hands will get cold. In warmer conditions, though, you really HAVE to have these in your repertory of gloves in the trunk or tank bag. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 109K and Havin' Fun "I have made good judgments in the Past. I have made good judgments in the Future. The future will be better tomorrow." - Former VP Dan Quayle. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: rain in Southern California To: Tony Miller Cc: pclist , scpcrc List I KNEW it didn't belong here! If you want it back, you're welcome to it! ;) John --- Tony Miller wrote: > John: > > Thanks for the heads up, but it looks a lot like > Alabama rain to me. . . > > Tony > > John La wrote: > > > > Sunday afternoon around 1pm "Pacific Coast" > time... > > > > I'm not there (no work on Sunday) but for those of > you > > who want a rare chance to see Southern California > > Rain, Check out the web cam... > > > > http://pc800.org > > > > John > > PS- That little white cart is what I use to get > around > > the university when I have to move computers, etc. > > > > ===== > > earn money online > > http://money.freeandeasy.com/ > > > > ** > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== earn money online http://money.freeandeasy.com/ ** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 03:50:25 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 21:47:02 -0600 From: MICHAEL TOLAR To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Sold my PC I sold my bike to a member on the list. I let him tell you about the transaction. Couldn't pass up a deal on a '99 ST1100A with 1050 miles on the clock along with a number of add on I liked. I just want to say thanks to all the people who helped me with my bike over the last two years. I might not have a PC anymore but I will always love the bike. If no one has any objections I would like to stay on the list. The people are great, the comments are fun and most of what is talked about also applies to the DARK SIDE. Mike Tolar '99 ST1100A Willowbrook IL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:00:51 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:07:48 -0500 From: Roger Subject: PC800: 1989 PC for sale To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net =46olks, I want to sell my 1989 PC. I have too many motorcycles, and the wife is not interested in riding the PC for herself. It has 13,859.2 miles on it, and includes the following (not installed) *Wong Wing, *Honda OEM trunk light kit, *Honda OEM bra, *NEW Clearview windshield. Anyone interested please contact me privately. Thanks. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:10:08 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: PC800: Distance results! Thanks to all who gave me the feedback....the average was this... miles from Detroit to Eureka............2653.25miles travel time.............................40.5 hrs but thanks to Francois thoughts, this may not be too accurate as the travel programs may not take into account the fact that you have to eat, sleep and slow down for broken down Harleys on the side of the road(sorry,,had too!). This does give me an idea of how far it will be though so thankyou again for all the feedback. FYI....Im also planning on trailering the bike out there so I can drive further then if I was on the bike. Many thanks,, Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 **************** /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ **************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:12:25 -0500 To: Roger Ries , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Distance At 09:59 AM 3/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >http://maps.looksmart.com/looksmart/startdd.hm > >Detroit, MI to Eureka, CA > >2612.44 miles >2301.65 minutes or 38.36 hours > >One option I have thought about is shipping my bike >out there. Doing the trip and driving back. > *************This is something that Im thinking about also. Thanks GC **************** /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ **************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Sunday's NWHPCTA Ride Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:14:07 -0800 Just wanted all to know that Mike Conner and myself had a pretty good ride today, as an representative's of the NorthWest Honda Pacific Coast Touring Association. The sun was out and the temperature almost got to 50. We left Marysville, Wa about 10:30, took the back roads up to Deception Pass State Park, then circled around to Anacortes. From there we continued north to Chuckanut Drive into Bellingham where I took some wrong roads before we finally found the roads that followed the shore line of Lake Whatcom. From there it was to HWY 9 and south to home. I got back home about 4:30 PM, for a 190 miles for the day. Did I mention that the weather was great, lots of sunshine. Oh by the way, I know that us Washingtonians are noted for having rainy weather, but did I mention it was a real nice sunny day. I think I did mention that it was a nice sunny day, didn't ??? Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sold my PC Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:20:26 -0800 How could anyone object to good company & friends. And besides, we want to hear it when you complain about missing that "trunk". Tell us, this ST is not another macho thing is it? (Truth be known, I sometimes think about an ST myself, but don't tell anyone.) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MICHAEL TOLAR >If no one has any objections I would like to stay on the list. The >people are great, the comments are fun and most of what is talked about >also applies to the DARK SIDE. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:35:18 -0500 To: "Thomas E. Humphrey II" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: RE: PC800: Distance results! At 08:26 PM 3/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >Trailering might be a good idea. Then you are relaxed for the ride, and can >bring along more stuff than the PC trunk holds! Like, wife & kidletts! :-0 ********then again...maybe riding out there would be a good idea!! :) GC Or >the equilivant. >See you in Sept! >Tom in Clayton CA > **************** /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ **************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Distance Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 21:51:27 PST One option I have thought about is shipping my bike out there. Doing the trip and driving back. *******************This is something that Im thinking about also. In Oct of '98 I rode from Portland, OR, to Milwaukee, WI. In the intervening week a big storm in Wy/MT changed my plans about riding home, so I shipped the Stealth and took Amtrak with Nan (who was smart enough to take the train BOTH ways!). I'm an AMA member; the ship job through their trucking contract was about $400. Tim "Scuffy" Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 109K and Havin' Fun "I have made good judgments in the Past. I have made good judgments in the Future. The future will be better tomorrow." - Former VP Dan Quayle. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:39:45 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John OConnor" To: Subject: Re: PC800: 1989 PC for sale Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:33:17 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger you wrote: I want to sell my 1989 PC. I have too many motorcycles, and the It has 13,859.2 miles on it, and includes the following (not installed) *Wong Wing, *Honda OEM trunk light kit, *Honda OEM bra, *NEW Clearview windshield. Question? What is a OEM bra? some kind of kinky Honda underwear that we should know about? I often wonder about what that big trunk was designed to carry!! John O'Connor Bristol - England Yamaha TR1 - 1982 PC800 - 1996 (Embrujo) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 06:50:37 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: 1989 PC for sale To: john@oconnorjf.fsnet.co.uk Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <007401bf8759$0161f7e0$12b1883e@oemcomputer> john@oconnorjf.fsnet.co.uk writes: >Question? What is a OEM bra? some kind of kinky Honda underwear >that we >should know about? I often wonder about what that big trunk was >designed to >carry!! > >John O'Connor >Bristol - England >Yamaha TR1 - 1982 >PC800 - 1996 (Embrujo) You can see it on Harvey Sattin's web page at : http://members.xoom.com/hsattin/images/access.jpg Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Distance "g.castle" writes: > As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in September and > having to decide on how many days I have to take off work,,,can > anyone give me a rough estimate on how long it would take to drive > from Detroit, MI to Eureka, Calf.?? Reminds me of the answer I got from a professor in Ann Arbor when I asked him how long a paper should be: "Long enough to cover the topic." The Iron Butt Association sponsors a "Coast to Coast in 50 Hours" ride, so Detroit to Eureka is certainly doable in 2 days. A more reasonable pace would be 4 days each way, which should work out to about 600 miles a day. The stretch from Detroit to the Rockies is boring, and you're likely to run into fierce headwinds. After that, the ride becomes much more interesting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:54:31 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "PC800 group" , "Ronald Grant" Subject: Re: PC800: hmmm.....440 miles divided by...... It was a Tuesday, so there was little traffic and few police about. No, I didn't take 16 hr. ! :-) Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ronald Grant" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 17:45:52 PST >The Maximum legal speed limit of 45mph, factor in a few rest stops, photo opportunities.....lets see.....did you ride a 16 HOUR day Chris? Or is the LAW enforcemnt there as I remember it from the 80's.....not too many cops, and we passed two while we were ALL leaned over in a corner, they just nodded, and went back to their rest break! > >Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! > >AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at > >www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch > > > I did >> 440 miles on the Blue Ridge Parkway in one day :-) >> >> Rounded that tire right off. I heartily recommend it! >> >> :-) >> Chris Norloff > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:18:26 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Distance results! To: gcastle@neptune.on.ca, anitom@pacbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 3/5/00 9:35:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, gcastle@neptune.on.ca writes: << hen again...maybe riding out there would be a good idea!! :) >> Damn Straight! I love one of Louis La'mour's quotes: " The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail." Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:52:27 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: My PC quest. To: PC800 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:05:53 I introduced myself to the list asking the ride differences between a '83 Yamaha Maxim and a Pacific Coast. I also asked the distance on a tank of gas. All I heard was how comfortable the bike is... I have owned several bikes over the years, this is the best... the trunk is awesome... best commuter I have ever owned... yadda yadda yadda. Pretty boring messages always the same thing about how great the bike is. So I said to myself, "Self, you need a PC." Stayed on the list to learn more. Felt bummed sometimes because I wanted to respond to a message but couldn’t answer because I only wanted a PC. I didn't own one. Didn’t really know the answer. I always liked the look. Not sure when I was first interested in a PC but can remember reading the first articles in Rider and Cycle World. The seed must have been planted then. Just needed a little time to sprout. I actually was able to demo ride a ’96 at a get together at a local Honda dealer. They put on a day of demo rides of the used vehicles they have in stock. Sub sandwiches and soda on them. Obstacle course to run through with smaller bikes they supply. Must have been a few hundred people. It would be an hour before I could ride it. Just stood there and stared at it while Rod Carey (former PC owner converted to the dark side) and I talked about it and others things. Most likely didn’t hear much Rod said, but there was a PC in front of me and I was going to ride it. I am sure he would understand. Good fellow. Out on the road on a PC. It was so quiet and smooth. Comfortable but would like a taller screen. I liked the torque. Strung it out a little, wasn’t used to shifting something that I couldn’t hear. What curves I could take the PC tracked nicely. I rode a few other bikes before the PC, which just made me appreciate it more. Couldn’t buy it at the time. Just purchased a new Chevrolet Silverado and a 27’ Coachmen travel trailer the year before to go camping. A summer of rainstorms and being wet every time the family went camping helped that decision. Looked at a ’89 and a ’90 but I wanted a ’97, ’98. Besides I helped pay for the setup charge for the clothing to be embroidered with that model year. If you don’t have some get it. Nice stuff. Then year 2000 came about with the TGPCHPCMY2KMR around the corner. I’ve saved up the money for a bike, now to find one. Eyeballing the list and all of the web sites that advertise the PC I came up with a list of available bikes to look into. Seen an ad in trader online that caught my eye. 1998 Honda PC800, Clearview+3, Kisan headlamp and taillamp modulator, Throttle Meister, voltmeter, tankbag, Glovebox, Givi 46E w/brakelight, 80/100 headlamp, 2 BMW style accessory plugs, prewired for additional accessories, 1 1/2 years left on warranty, garage kept-like new condition, 9,000 miles, all scheduled maintenance performed by Honda Location: Willowbrook, IL Roger, there it is including everything that you would put on for accessories. Hmm, glove box… must be a list member. I wait about a week thinking about this and I finally send Mike an e-mail. He responses, “If you are interested give me a call, I’m looking at closing a deal on a ST1100.’ I call him on Wednesday Feb. 23rd. I’m nervous but Mike was a great guy to talk to. Must have been on the phone for almost an hour went over everything the bike had, made an offer and asked him if I could keep it down there till I could pick it up. No problem, let me check with the dealer see if it would affect the deal of trading it in and I will find out some bank info for a deposit transfer. Well, I am finally amongst the ranks of PC ownership. I am very excited. Now I need to wait for a Saturday in the 50’s or better. I don’t have a problem riding in colder weather I just don’t need something added to my 432 mile trip. Any questions, I might know the answer because I now own a Pacific Coast. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - 9,172 miles PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:08:10 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Bob Patterson Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? >Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 22:45:19 -0500 >To: "Mark Gilb" >From: Bob Patterson >Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? > >Hi All, > >Since I bought my PC800 last year I've received a number of pre-printed post cards, wanting to buy PC800's only. Looks like it's from some kind of dealer. > >Bob > > > >At 11:49 AM 03/05/2000 -0600, you wrote: >>Selden, >> >> Napleton Honda is a Honda CAR dealership. I assume that they took the bike >>in trade and have no idea what they have. I have seen two 98s for sale at >>St. Louis MC dealerships and the going price is over $6K. >> For someone looking for a good deal on a PC, ignorance can truly be bliss. >> >>Mark Gilb >>Arnold, Mo. >>95 PC800 (Black, of course) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Selden Deemer" >>To: "Bob Ronecker" >>Cc: "PC 800 List" >>Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:01 PM >>Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC a collectors item ? >> >> >>> I'm really surprised that a dealer is asking a price this low for a >>> 98; it's about what MSN list as the current market price for a 1995 >>> model. A classified has been running in the Atlanta paper for a couple >>> of weeks for a 1998, asking $4950. Makes it tough for the other seller >>> of a 1998 whose ad is asking $6800 for a 1998 PC. >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Selden Deemer >>> Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Bob Ronecker wrote: >>> >>> > Anyone interested in purchasing one of these future classics >>> > can find a 98 model, loaded, beautiful for $4400 according to an >>> > ad in the St Louis Post paper today. Being sold by Napleton Honda >>> > Phone number 314-9281155 >>> > Go for it guys and gals >>> > Bob Ronecker >>> > 94PC >>> >>> -- >>> Visit the PC800 web page at >>> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >>> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 6 Mar 2000 12:18:08 -0600 (CST) (client-151-201-125-231.bellatlantic.net [151.201.125.231]) ; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:17:10 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:06:59 -0500 From: Mark and Lisa Hanley Subject: PC800: How much is it worth? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm considering selling my PC800. 90 model, 1,800 miles (yes that's = eighteen hundred). Was dropped once when loading it on to a moving = truck. All damage repaired with new Honda panels. I keep the battery = topped of and have changed the oil yearly. Bike is started monthly and = brought up to operating temp. Been in the garage for years now and am = looking for a good home for a great bike. I can send jpg's on request = if ya want em but right now am mainly wondering how much it is worth? =20 Intelligent responses welcome. . . Thanks in advance, Mark Hanley jpg's on request if ya want em but right now am mainly wondering how = much it is=20 worth? 
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:51:30 -0500 Subject: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? PC800 Folks, Just got a 98 PC800 this past weekend. Like it a lot. But probably want some sort of cruise control since I have some minor arthritis and occasional sort wrist. Haven't been too happy with a cheap throttle lock on my previous bike (CB750). Electronic cruise control seems expensive ($400-500) so the Throttle-meister seems to be the middle ground ($100). How well does it work on the PC? Is this the best price/performance tradeoff? Joel 98 PC800, 95 CB750, 82 GS850G -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joel F. Barlow" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:56:18 -0500 Subject: PC800: Replacement grips for the PC? PC800 folks, I'm considering looking for different grips for my 98 PC800. The stock ones are okay, but I have a touch of arthritis in my hands that seems to do better with "slightly" larger grips, based on past bike experience. I had Oury gel grips on my 95 CB750 that seemed to work well, although they got a bit too tacky (sticky) after a couple years use. But they were comfortable. What are good after-market grips for the PC? I don't know if it matters or not, but I would also probably be installing a throttle-meister or other cruise device - does that have any affect or constraint on what kind of grips you can get? Thanks, Joel -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:19:33 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? To: jbarlow@telcordia.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I know you are more interested in something less than an elctroninc cruise control, but I've had mine for the last 19,000 miles and I love it. It's worth every penny of the $395 I paid for it when I'm traveling the Interstates to fun destinations. I'd give up my Corbin seat before I gave up my MotorCycle Cruise from Sport Touring Accessories. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" jbarlow@telcordia.com writes: >PC800 Folks, > >Just got a 98 PC800 this past weekend. Like it a lot. >But probably want some sort of cruise control since I have some >minor arthritis and occasional sort wrist. Haven't been too happy >with a cheap >throttle lock >on my previous bike (CB750). > >Electronic cruise control seems expensive ($400-500) so the >Throttle-meister >seems to >be the middle ground ($100). How well does it work on the PC? Is >this the best >price/performance tradeoff? > >Joel >98 PC800, 95 CB750, 82 GS850G -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:22:24 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: My PC quest. To: rogerries@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Congratulatons on a wise selection (you already know that though) and going from a "list lurker" to a Coaster Poster. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" rogerries@yahoo.com writes: >Well, I am finally amongst the ranks of PC ownership. >I am very excited. Now I need to wait for a Saturday >in the 50ís or better. I donít have a problem riding >in colder weather I just donít need something added to >my 432 mile trip. > >Any questions, I might know the answer because I now >own a Pacific Coast. >===== >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN >'98 PC800W - 9,172 miles >PCOG/PCOC #74 >HSTA #8516RG -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: Color Codes Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:47:26 -0500 I need to order new left side fairing protectors for my 1995 PC. Where would I find the necessary color codes that are required for ordering these parts? My PC is black and silver. I found a label inside the locking gas flap door, but don't really know if the listed code is just for the black color or "everything". If that color code is only for the black, where would I find the code for the lower silver portion of the bike?? Thanks in advance! Bob Reinhardt 1995 Pacific Coast 1986 Interceptor 500 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: yourname@pc800.org To: scpcrc List , pclist In order to offset the cost of Domain Registration and PC related web hosting (which I am in the process of removing from my work computers), I'd like to offer the group the ability to purchase email address' at PC800.ORG (yourname@PC800.org) Here is a chance for your "biker" alter-ego to have it's own personalized email address! The host/isp I now am using does not host email, but will forward all incoming email to your existing email account. It usually takes about 1 day before you can start to use your account. There are no ads, signatures, banners, etc added to your email. The incoming mail is simply redirected to any existing email account you already use. You will continue to send mail like you do now. Or, you could open a free yahoo mail account or hotmail account to have the messages forwarded to, so they are kept separate from your other mail. Whatever you want. I propose to ask for $20 (total) for the first YEAR (not per month) and $10 per YEAR thereafter (assuming the ISP does not raise their yearly rate). Currently the ISP I use charges $11.95 to add an email address to the domain for the first year and 5.95 per year thereafter. At this rate, I'd need about 35 people to buy addresses in order to break even on the domain registration and web hosting I've already spent so there will be no pop up banners, etc. No problem if I don't get that many. No big deal if I get a few more (gas money!). If I get a hundred or more requests (unlikely since there are only about 200 subscribers), I'll look to the list for interesting ideas on how to use some of the money to improve the page. I will be reserving some names for myself: ie: Webmaster, owner, johnla, johnl, john, john.lafreniere, etc, and I reserve the right to refuse to issue any name I deem offensive or in violation of ISP rules. If you are interested (or have questions), send me an email with your desired address@PC800.org (please don't respond to the list). Email address requests will be honored on a first requested, first served basis, but can only be activated upon payment. Thanks- John ===== earn money online http://money.freeandeasy.com/ ** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:16:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:09:28 -0500 > I know you are more interested in something less than an elctroninc > cruise control, but I've had mine for the last 19,000 miles and I > love it. It's worth every penny of the $395 I paid for it when I'm > traveling the Interstates to fun destinations. I'd give up my > Corbin seat before I gave up my MotorCycle Cruise from Sport > Touring Accessories. > > Tim Davies Tim; Did you install your cruise control yourself or did you have it installed? I've been thinking of one myself. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2000 11:59:23 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: "Francois Saint Laurent" , "g.castle" Cc: Subject: RE: PC800: Distance Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:00:24 -0500 Importance: Normal Probably 48 hours is reasonable.... Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Francois Saint Laurent > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 1:48 PM > To: g.castle > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Distance > > > At 11:50 AM -0500 3/5/00, g.castle wrote: > >As Im planning on going to the Great 2000 Ride in September and having to > >decide on how many days I have to take off work,,,can anyone > give me a rough > >estimate on how long it would take to drive from Detroit, MI to > >Eureka, Calf.?? > > > >Thanks for any input. > > > >Greg Castle > >Keswick,Ontario,Canada > >89 PC800 > > > Hi Greg... > > My Automap software shows the route from Alliston to Eureka as 2,789 > miles driven in 44 hours and 45 minutes. > > Have fun... > > fsl :-) > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:55:47 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:02:50 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: 1989 PC for sale To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: gobeaugo@prodigy.net Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net <001401bf872d$35cbf3e0$c019ff3f@computer> Clarification is need on my '89 PC. The Clearview windshield has been placed on the PC that I have for sale. It had the original Hondaline Tall windshield, which weathered and was replaced by the Clearview. =20 The Clearview is not for sale as a stand alone item. Sorry for the confusion. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:58:57 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? To: cluft@uscom.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <001501bf87a7$e1d53dc0$59f1c3d1@j3s0p2> I installed it myself. Very easy. Took about 4 hours from the time I started to remove the plastic to the time I was riding out of my garage. I had the manufacturer in Australia email me a PDF file of the instruction manual before I decided to buy one. I still have the file if you want it. It's about 450K in size, fully illustrated with diagrams and photographs. If anyone pays to have someone else install this item then they are wasting their money. Unless of course someone is paying me to install it for them then it's money well spent:-) Tim cluft@uscom.com writes: >> I know you are more interested in something less than an >elctroninc >> cruise control, but I've had mine for the last 19,000 miles and I >> love it. It's worth every penny of the $395 I paid for it when >I'm >> traveling the Interstates to fun destinations. I'd give up my >> Corbin seat before I gave up my MotorCycle Cruise from Sport >> Touring Accessories. >> >> Tim Davies > >Tim; > >Did you install your cruise control yourself or did you have it >installed? > >I've been thinking of one myself. > >Carl Luft >PC800 'Protous' >Wernersville, PA > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark and Lisa Hanley" To: Subject: Fw: PC800: Color Codes Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:13:22 -0500 oops, forgot to cc the list. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mark and Lisa Hanley To: Reinhardt, Bob Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 7:09 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Color Codes Hi Bob, I recently ordered a couple of parts for my PC800. When talking to the dealer they ask me what year the bike was. Apparently they code the color of the parts by year. When I insisted the number they gave me on a front fender piece was wrong they ordered what I wanted and it came in the wrong color. So, just tell 'em what you want and the year of your bike and all should be fine. Good Luck, Mark Hanley ----- Original Message ----- From: Reinhardt, Bob To: 'PC800' Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: PC800: Color Codes > I need to order new left side fairing protectors for my 1995 PC. Where > would I find the necessary color codes that are required for ordering these > parts? My PC is black and silver. I found a label inside the locking gas > flap door, but don't really know if the listed code is just for the black > color or "everything". If that color code is only for the black, where > would I find the code for the lower silver portion of the bike?? > > Thanks in advance! > > Bob Reinhardt > 1995 Pacific Coast > 1986 Interceptor 500 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2000 16:30:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: "Joel F. Barlow" , Subject: RE: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:31:45 -0500 Importance: Normal I use the throttle meister and really like it. I would use that or the BMW version on future bikes also after seeing how the other throttle stops work (the $15 version whose name I cannot recall) I like the throttlemeister because I have learned to roll it on as I roll on the throttle, I can set it for light or firmly on, I can overpower it at any time in an emergency, it has never not held, it looks good (esp on red bike), and it has saved the nerves in my hands over countless miles (see http://whitespider.aawsom.net/montana.htm . I like it! if you wait another month, I will sell you mine... :-) Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Joel F. Barlow > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:52 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? > > > > > PC800 Folks, > > Just got a 98 PC800 this past weekend. Like it a lot. > But probably want some sort of cruise control since I have some > minor arthritis and occasional sort wrist. Haven't been too happy > with a cheap> throttle lock > on my previous bike (CB750). > > Electronic cruise control seems expensive ($400-500) so the > Throttle-meister> seems to > be the middle ground ($100). How well does it work on the PC? Is > this the best > price/performance tradeoff? > > Joel > 98 PC800, 95 CB750, 82 GS850G > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay Subject: Re: Fw: PC800: Color Codes To: hanleys@bellatlantic.net (Mark and Lisa Hanley) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:32:35 -0400 (AST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Mark and Lisa Hanley write: > So, just tell 'em what you want and the year of your bike and all > should be fine. This is good advice for -any- part. If you give a part number to the dealer and you get the wrong thing, it's your fault and most places charge a restocking fee for special orders. If you name the item, it's their problem if the wrong thing comes in. I always shudder when people ask for part numbers from my fiches -- what if *I* make a mistake typing in the part number, and they get the 400$ trunk lid for some other year bike instead of a 0.25$ left-hand-thread foozle pin? -- Daniel MacKay Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:02:58 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Replacement grips for the PC? Joel, I know this does not exactly answer your question but you might find something you like. I know there are a few members of this list that would like to _really_ customize their PC :) heh heh heh... http://www.tongluh.com.tw/p4.htm I would recommend barrel shaped grips. I have a set at home. I'll check on the brand and model and report back. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: Subject: Re: PC800: How good is throttle-meister for PC800? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:38:39 -0800 I'll second what Bob has said. The only thing that peeves me is that it should have been standard equipment on the bike. The thing is pricey, but the workmanship is super. Roger 98 PC800 - Wed Wabbit 93 Guzzi Daytona - Wapid Twansit >I use the throttle meister and really like it. I would use that or the BMW >version on future bikes also after seeing how the other throttle stops work >(the $15 version whose name I cannot recall) I like the throttlemeister >because I have learned to roll it on as I roll on the throttle, I can set >it for light or firmly on, I can overpower it at any time in an emergency, >it has never not held, it looks good (esp on red bike), and it has saved the >nerves in my hands over countless miles (see >http://whitespider.aawsom.net/montana.htm . I like it! if you wait >another month, I will sell you mine... :-) Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Mark and Lisa Hanley" , Subject: Re: PC800: How much is it worth? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:31:38 -0800 I bought a '90 PC in good shape, Sept '98, with a few scratches form = being shipped all over the universe. Hawaii to Boston to Seattle... It = had about 4000 road miles on it and I paid $3350. The battery had been = replaced and the oil had been changed occasionally over the years. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark and Lisa Hanley=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:06 AM Subject: PC800: How much is it worth? I'm considering selling my PC800. 90 model, 1,800 miles (yes that's = eighteen hundred). Was dropped once when loading it on to a moving = truck. All damage repaired with new Honda panels. I keep the battery = topped of and have changed the oil yearly. Bike is started monthly and = brought up to operating temp. Been in the garage for years now and am = looking for a good home for a great bike. I can send jpg's on request = if ya want em but right now am mainly wondering how much it is worth? =20 Intelligent responses welcome. . . Thanks in advance, Mark Hanley mainly=20 wondering how much it is worth? 
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Mark and Lisa Hanley" , Subject: Re: PC800: How much is it worth? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:22:17 -0800 Was dropped once when loading it on to a moving truck.=20 =20 Mark, congratulations for repairing the bike. Sounds like a good deal = for someone. But next time, stop the truck first... Lee Barker -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: tenorandtuba@juno.com by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E2JHQYH5; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 23:30:14 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:39:00 -0600 Subject: PC800: Dropping in to ask 2 Quick Questions for the List Subscribers... Hi All! Like many people, I've been off and on the list for a few years, owning a 1996 PC with 27,300 miles on it. Due to the warm weather we've had up here in Minnesota recently, I've actually been able to ride 150 miles this year already, which is exiciting. My current mods include a rifle windshield, throttlemeister locks, Neill Thompson's PC Bag (it is really great), a Rifle Windshield, a Corbin Seat, a GIVI topbox, fairing protector, mud flap, and most recently a Sony CD player with wired remote (and speakers). We're getting about as "loaded out" as a PC can get. Here are the two questions. FIRST...I'm in the process of mounting highway pegs on the PC. Please don't send back e-mails saying "read the archives," because I have. No, instead I'm curious if anyone else would be interested in purchasing highway pegs that would mount under the crash guards. Warning: this will require cutting a small amount of material from the crash guard. More information later. Anyway, I've found a company that make an offset highway peg...Kuryakyn. They are at www.kuryakyn.com. The "Dually offset peg" will create the perfect angle between the pegs and the engine guards. The problem is that the PC's engine guards are smaller than 1" (and I'm not sure of the exact size. Does anyone have a tool for an exact measurement?). Kuryakyn is located here in Minnesota, so I've contacted them to see if they'd be interested in tooling a "clamp" that would fit the PC. The pegs will currently work, with a slight amount of surgery. I know I'd like highway pegs for those long rides. I'd like to take back a response to Kuryakyn from the list server regarding this issue. So, please e-mail me back at work (crussell@sowashco.k12.mn.us) if you would be interested in such a product. That goes for those international folks who follow this listserver, too. The current cost for the peg set-up is $109.00, and I can't see it costing much more "tooled" for the PC. The pegs are chrome, but they match nicely with the "look" of the PC. They also fold up. SECOND...with the radio...for those of you who have installed your own radio, following the advice offered over the net (including the in-trunk antenna mount), do you have trouble with AM reception (engine noise)? If so, have you found an in-line noise reducer that does the trick? I've got an in-line alternator noise filter, and an antenna noise filter. FM works pretty well. AM is horrendous. Any ideas? Again, I'm not a subscriber to the list anymore (too much e-mail to sort through on a daily basis for me, sorry), so to respond you'll have to e-mail back to me directly. Thanks for your time, suggestions (Question #2), and opinions (Question #1) Chris Russell -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:23:30 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:23:24 -0700 From: Neillnsteph To: Mark and Lisa Hanley CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: How much is it worth? You can get a baseline price from www.kellybluebook.com. You'll have to make the necessary adjustments for condition and mileage. > Mark and Lisa Hanley wrote: > > I'm considering selling my PC800. 90 model, 1,800 miles (yes that's > eighteen hundred). Was dropped once when loading it on to a moving > truck. All damage repaired with new Honda panels. I keep the battery > topped of and have changed the oil yearly. Bike is started monthly > and brought up to operating temp. Been in the garage for years now > and am looking for a good home for a great bike. I can send jpg's on > request if ya want em but right now am mainly wondering how much it is > worth? > > Intelligent responses welcome. . . > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark Hanley -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:41:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:41:37 EST Subject: PC800: The Battery- Part II To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Well... As nearly as I recall, part I ended with an unpowered PC, a dead Yuasa battery- pulled from it's hidey-hole with some difficulty- and a brand spankin' new dead battery from Sears. I reported to work the next day in something of a state. After informing my boss- and fellow rider- of my problems, he volunteered to use his contacts to procure me an Excide battery on the cheap. A few moments later, a call was made and a battery on the way. "Charged", I said. "The thing's no use to me flat." Charged. Guaranteed. After waiting about 3 days, the boss and I rolled off to meet his source.. In the parking lot of a nearby McDonald's. This made me very nervous-recieving stolen goods is, in itself, a crime- but I was damned curious to see this played out. Slick looking guy in his late thirties. Expensive-rented-wheels, cell phone locked to his wrist. Shades. Hair gel. My hackles rose. After a few nervous chit-chatty moments, the battery was procured. The battery he'd purchased, that day, from a nearby NAPA store. At full price. He even had a receipt. Nice contact. The boss was embarassed. I was profoundly irritated, but I took the battery. Noticing that there was an acid pack inside. So much for charged. I took the receipt- palmed it, actually- and the boss and I took off. Fuming. The price was almost exactly what I paid at Sears. "Well.. At least you saved a ride to the parts store," the boss tried. "There's a NAPA store next to my bike shop." But... What the hell. I called NAPA. Once the acid was in a battery, could it be returned? No. Was it dry charged- so that it had a few volts in it once the acid was put in?- The sales guy laughed. Was it a rebadged Excide battery? Not a chance, per the numbers on the box. I set it aside- I could always take it back, and the way things were going, it might be needed- and tried to get the Sears battery charged. No -one I know had a charger that would dial down far enough to charge a motorcycle battery. A jump was reccomended... But at this point, my infamous pigheadedness surfaced. I wanted to put a charged battery in the PC. Period. So, I called the bike shop. Would they charge the Sears battery...? Sure. Ten dollars. A week had now passed, and I was back where I started... ( I thought the purchase price through the shop was too high. As the proud owner of 3 dead batteries, I was swimming in irony as I walked in.) "Whoa, this thing is dead. What happenned?" "I bought it that way. It wasn't charged." "Let me look at this. It's in pretty good shape, it oughta still hold a charge..." "It should. It's new. From Sears. Never charged." "How long have you had this??" The shop guy simply could not conceive of someone selling an uncharged battery. He put it on to charge. Forced me to calm down and told me that he wanted to run it through the full cycle... Charge, discharge, charge... As a test. Come back on Monday. It was Saturday. A perfect Saturday. Perfect for the riding I knew I wouldn't get to do. Called in today. (I do learn, if slowly.) The Sears battery wouldn't hold a charge. "Do you have one in stock?" ( I knew they did. The one they had wanted to sell me a week and change back.) "I'll get it charged for you. Come by tonight." Went in. Picked up the damned well going back to Sears with a fist behind it dead battery. Bought the new. Took it home. It was warm when I unboxed it. Plugged it in, panneled up the PC without even testing it, backed out of the garage and lit it up. Purrrfect. Rode around grinning for a long while. And what have we learned? The Sears Automotive in the Crossroads mall on 72nd and Dodge in Omaha, Nebraska is utterly worthless. First time I went there, they installed 4 new tires on my Honda and lost 2 lug nuts. Couldn't find them. Didn't sell them. I had to strip a nut off of one tire just to be sure the wheel would'nt come off as I drove to the parts store. (NAPA, as I recall. No irony.) Next time I went there, they couldn't start my car after performing some engine work. Now this. The plastic on the PC is not all that hard to deal with. Comes off like it'll bust to bits- you end up feeling like you're applying too much force, and it's going to crack- goes back on pretty easily. My first removal took a half hour. The last took less than 10 minutes. The right hand side lower panel- where the brake pedal sprouts- will bend more than far enough to access the battery without removing it. And, last but not least, A pretty girl who would not talk to you before.. Will accept a ride on the glistening black Airwolf looking PC in a heartbeat, and can then be talked into a late dinner and a little getting to know one another chatting. (Married, alas, but very, very sweet.) Kendall 95 PCentric -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:22:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:22:50 EST Subject: PC800: Vista cruise throttle lock To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Where is the best/cheapest place to buy the vista cruise throttle lock? thanks Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Highway Pegs Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:03:36 -0500 I would be interested in an accurate fitting peg. Dallas > > FIRST...I'm in the process of mounting highway pegs on the PC. Please > don't send back e-mails saying "read the archives," because I have. No, > instead I'm curious if anyone else would be interested in purchasing > highway pegs that would mount under the crash guards. Warning: this will > require cutting a small amount of material from the crash guard. More > information later. Anyway, I've found a company that make an offset > highway peg...Kuryakyn. They are at www.kuryakyn.com. The "Dually > offset peg" will create the perfect angle between the pegs and the engine > guards. The problem is that the PC's engine guards are smaller than 1" > (and I'm not sure of the exact size. Does anyone have a tool for an > exact measurement?). Kuryakyn is located here in Minnesota, so I've > contacted them to see if they'd be interested in tooling a "clamp" that > would fit the PC. The pegs will currently work, with a slight amount of > surgery. I know I'd like highway pegs for those long rides. I'd like to > take back a response to Kuryakyn from the list server regarding this > issue. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:09:36 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Vista cruise throttle lock Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:09:53 -0600 Probably at your local dealer. You are only talking about $20 -$25 anyway. The less a stranger you are there, the better they will treat you if you ever NEED them. Just a thought. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 4:22 AM Subject: PC800: Vista cruise throttle lock > Where is the best/cheapest place to buy the vista cruise throttle lock? > thanks Dan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Wfkj@aol.com for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:07:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:07:52 EST Subject: PC800: Topping off a battery? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I missed the original message but a copy follows. I'm curious. How do you top-off a sealed battery, at least, that's what I have in my1990 PC-800. Walt Kern > Mark and Lisa Hanley wrote: > > I'm considering selling my PC800. 90 model, 1,800 miles (yes that's > eighteen hundred). Was dropped once when loading it on to a moving > truck. All damage repaired with new Honda panels. I keep the battery > topped of and have changed the oil yearly. Bike is started monthly > and brought up to operating temp. Been in the garage for years now > and am looking for a good home for a great bike. I can send jpg's on > request if ya want em but right now am mainly wondering how much it is > worth? > > Intelligent responses welcome. . . > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark Hanley -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:25:10 -0500 To: Wfkj@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Topping off a battery? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 11:07 AM -0500 3/7/00, Wfkj@aol.com wrote: >I missed the original message but a copy follows. I'm curious. How do you >top-off a sealed battery, at least, that's what I have in my1990 PC-800. > >Walt Kern I think he means that he kept the battery fully charged, probably with a trickle charger or something. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pat Grenier" To: Subject: PC800: Looking for a PC800! Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:04:19 -0500 Hi everyone! I have been searching the archives on this site regularly for a = couple of weeks now. I live in Ottawa, Ontario (Canada). From what I can = tell, PC800 owners are very fond of their machines. I am looking into = buying a PC800 but I can't find any listings at all in Canada. I'm = looking for a motorcycle somewhere between a 1990 and a 1995, preferably = black or pearl (not too picky about the colour) and also preferably = somewhere on the East Coast. Anyway, if any one is interested in = selling their PC800 please contact Michele at pgrenier@magma.ca . Michele Ottawa, On =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:24:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:24:33 EST Subject: PC800: throttle rocker To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Does anyone have the site where one can buy the throttle rocker for about 7 bucks? It was written about several weeks ago...thanks Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job" To: Subject: PC800: My PC quest Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:40:07 -0000 Depending on the style of riding, I get a between 180 miles and 160 miles per tankful. These figures include most of the reserve capacity. Job, Sussex, Britian ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Ries < Snip > > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:05:53 I introduced myself to > the list asking the ride differences between a '83 > Yamaha Maxim and a Pacific Coast. I also asked the > distance on a tank of gas. > > All I heard was how comfortable the bike is... < Snip > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Broeking Subject: Re: PC800: throttle rocker To: Ridr44@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is where I got three of them last year, great customer service... http://www.dwrracesupport.com/tr/throttle.htm --- Ridr44@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have the site where one can buy the throttle rocker for about 7 > bucks? It was written about several weeks ago...thanks Dan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face of the Eiger, July 19th, 1936... broeking@erols.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:03:24 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: PC language lesson for today Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves the PC800. :-) "Knuffelvisvoer" I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com for pc800@hpc.uh.edu via smtpd (for relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2000 21:57:17 UT Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:08:17 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:05:23 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC language lesson for today Boundary="0__=YtuELH1XzZmD6K89KQrMmxH3KseP3Ex2dD3RgAOFcn95v5q7xDxrK9b8" --0__=YtuELH1XzZmD6K89KQrMmxH3KseP3Ex2dD3RgAOFcn95v5q7xDxrK9b8 Isn't that the sound a Harley rider makes as he is pushing his bike uphill? "Juan A. Goula" on 03/07/2000 11:03:24 AM Please respond to jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800 cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: PC language lesson for today --0__=YtuELH1XzZmD6K89KQrMmxH3KseP3Ex2dD3RgAOFcn95v5q7xDxrK9b8 Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves the PC800. :-) "Knuffelvisvoer" I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85øN, Long.: 147.72øW "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --0__=YtuELH1XzZmD6K89KQrMmxH3KseP3Ex2dD3RgAOFcn95v5q7xDxrK9b8-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:10:24 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Trunk carpet tracings I've received Rick Covert's tracings yesterday. He sent them traced on (not sure if it was meant as a joke or just coincidence) gift wrap paper with snowflakes on it! :-) Thanks Rick! The first thing I noticed after cutting the patterns out was the significant difference in size between the sides, the right side being much smaller. Then I remembered that the right side has the tool separating "bulkhead". I know that many list members have removed this separator, so I will attempt to create two versions of the scan, one for those who are stock, and the other for the modified trunks so that the carpet covers the full bottom of the side. Stand by. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:33:33 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: PC language lesson for today To: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I'm appalled Steve that you would stoop so low as to make fun of a fellow motorcyclist. Harley riders are lovers of two wheeled adventuring as much as the rest of us and we all have to stick together to preserve our freedom to enjoy the highways as we like. Even a Harley rider knows that is the sound his woman makes pushing his HOG uphill while he rides:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com writes: >Isn't that the sound a Harley rider makes as he is pushing his >bike uphill? > > >"Juan A. Goula" on 03/07/2000 11:03:24 AM > >Please respond to jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu > >To: PC800 >cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity >Services/Operations/SanDimas) > >Subject: PC800: PC language lesson for today > >Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: > >Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves >the PC800. :-) > >"Knuffelvisvoer" > > >I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Arjan Andriessen" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: PC language lesson for today Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:39:36 +0100 Hi list, Well Emile is not at home right now , so i will have to do the job as a fellow dutch pc800 rider. :-))))) Knuffelvisvoer Hmm Knuffel = hugh Vis = Fish Voer= food hugh Fish Food ? Like ehh toy fish food :-)))) Arjan Andriessen Pc800 1989 58Kkm Skippy Bike ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Juan A. Goula" Aan: "PC800" Verzonden: dinsdag 7 maart 2000 20:03 Onderwerp: PC800: PC language lesson for today Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves the PC800. :-) "Knuffelvisvoer" I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. -- Juan Antonio Goula School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 ------------------------------------------------- Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its motorcycles." (with apologies to Greil Marcus) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Arjan Andriessen" To: , "Reinhardt, Bob" Subject: Re: PC800: Color Codes Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:41:42 +0100 I believe that the code like mine 1989 PC800 is PC800K where K stands for its production year. so your bike should be pc800k 1989 pc800l 1990 pc800m 1991 pc800n 1992 pc800o 1993 pc800p 1994 pc800q 1995 Corect me if i'm wrong, Arjan andriessen Pc800K 1989 Skippy Bike Holland ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Reinhardt, Bob" Aan: "'PC800'" Verzonden: maandag 6 maart 2000 20:47 Onderwerp: PC800: Color Codes > I need to order new left side fairing protectors for my 1995 PC. Where > would I find the necessary color codes that are required for ordering these > parts? My PC is black and silver. I found a label inside the locking gas > flap door, but don't really know if the listed code is just for the black > color or "everything". If that color code is only for the black, where > would I find the code for the lower silver portion of the bike?? > > Thanks in advance! > > Bob Reinhardt > 1995 Pacific Coast > 1986 Interceptor 500 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Color Codes To: Arjan Andriessen Cc: PC800 1989 K 1990 L 1991 would have been M 1992 would have been N No letter O used 1993 would have been P No letter Q used 1994 R 1995 S 1996 T No letter U used 1997 V 1998 W --- Arjan Andriessen wrote: > I believe that the code like mine 1989 PC800 is > PC800K where K stands for > its production year. > > so your bike should be > pc800k 1989 > pc800l 1990 > pc800m 1991 > pc800n 1992 > pc800o 1993 > pc800p 1994 > pc800q 1995 > > > Corect me if i'm wrong, > > Arjan andriessen > Pc800K 1989 > Skippy Bike > Holland > > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: "Reinhardt, Bob" > > Aan: "'PC800'" > Verzonden: maandag 6 maart 2000 20:47 > Onderwerp: PC800: Color Codes > > > > I need to order new left side fairing protectors > for my 1995 PC. Where > > would I find the necessary color codes that are > required for ordering > these > > parts? My PC is black and silver. I found a > label inside the locking gas > > flap door, but don't really know if the listed > code is just for the black > > color or "everything". If that color code is only > for the black, where > > would I find the code for the lower silver portion > of the bike?? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Bob Reinhardt > > 1995 Pacific Coast > > 1986 Interceptor 500 > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN '98 PC800W - 9,172 miles PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2000 14:13:51 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:13:55 -0600 From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: service manual on Ebay Hope this hasn't already been posted. This has been on Ebay for a few days, its still at $9.99 and I'd hate to see it go for less than what I had to pay for mine... ;) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275302429 3 days left... Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: service manual on Ebay Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:23:18 -0800 Does anyone know if this service manual applies to the 1997 model? It says "89-90, 94" on the cover. ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 201 Thousand Oaks, CA PH: (805) 370-1474 FX: (805) 370-1471 tpaxman@algcorp.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ryan" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: PC800: service manual on Ebay > Hope this hasn't already been posted. This has been on Ebay > for a few days, its still at $9.99 and I'd hate to see it > go for less than what I had to pay for mine... ;) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275302429 > > 3 days left... > > Ryan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:32:30 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: PC language lesson for today Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:25:10 -0500 > I'm appalled Steve that you would stoop so low as to make fun of a > fellow motorcyclist. Harley riders are lovers of two wheeled > adventuring as much as the rest of us and we all have to stick > together to preserve our freedom to enjoy the highways as we like. > Even a Harley rider knows that is the sound 'his woman' makes pushing ^^^ ^^^^^ O'l Lady > his HOG uphill while he rides:-) > Tim Davies Lets call'em what they call'em. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:40:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: service manual on Ebay Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:32:54 -0500 > Does anyone know if this service manual applies to the 1997 model? It says > "89-90, 94" on the cover. > Todd M. Paxman Theres so little difference. I have a 97 and I bought the 89-90 manual Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <00cf01bf8872$fac188e0$5c76fea9@dsl.gtei.net> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:48:00 -0500 To: "Todd M. Paxman" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: service manual on Ebay Cc: , At 12:23 PM -0800 3/7/00, Todd M. Paxman wrote: >Does anyone know if this service manual applies to the 1997 model? It says >"89-90, 94" on the cover. >________________________ >Todd M. Paxman > > > hi Todd. The manual will not have the diagrams to cover the front wheel fender design of the 97 and 98 models, but aside from that the manual would be pretty close. I bought the manual from Honda for the 96 model year, and it was basically the manual for the 89/90 with a few stickers thrown in to place on top of every reference for 89/90 and replaced with 89-90/94-96. It would still be a great reference tool, and at that price I would bid on it. Good luck. fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:23:12 -0500 From: Kernneth Winter To: pclist Subject: PC800: Non Pc related list members Can someone share the instructions on how to rebuild the front fork on a 1984 Night Hawk 650. This little bike keeps the PC company in the garage. I assume it is time to rebuild the forks because it leaves oil on the shafts as the fork moves up and down...??? This bike may get a small side-car. Can I do anything to make the forks stiffer? Kenneth Winter East TN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: f5jgk@club-internet.fr Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:20:23 +0100 To: Bob Broeking CC: "f5jgk@club-internet.fr" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: optional fuel tank ? hello all, last year, I would like to build myself a second fuel tank for my PC800 and put it in the trunk (at the left side ) and connect it to the main one . some of my firends told me that it is dangerous to do it in 'fiber glass' because if I fall driving it could broke and fire could be possible ! I found in the http://www.fuelsafe.com/ site a compagny which can build a second fuel take as I want. I would like to know if any one has already a second tank for his PC800 ? If yes , could you give me some details of it ? Thank you, Please, sorry for my english ! Thierry Grenoble FRANCE (PC800 90') -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: Cc: "Louise St-Amand" Subject: PC800: Wanted to Buy: PC800 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:14:17 -0500 Dear PC800 sellers; This lady is located in Montreal Canada and wants to buy a PC800. Anyone who wants to sell to her, please send her e-mail directly as she is NOT on the chat group. Louise St-Amand Elton Hammond 1997 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:29:43 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Non Pc related To: cen13504@centurytel.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have the service manual for your bike. I will make a copy of the section you need and send it to you or fax if you send me your info. I did mine a few years ago, took about 4 hrs for the whole job with two other friends helping. The manual spells it out out step by step. Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 40 k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:18:33 EST Subject: Re: PC800: optional fuel tank ? To: f5jgk@club-internet.fr, bob_broeking@yahoo.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bonjur Thierry! I do not know about that particular company. I did a little research, and they seem reputable enough, but... They build custom fuel cells, which differ somewhat from a conventional gas tank. A regular tank holds gas as a liquid. The cell works kind of like the innards of a zippo lighter. The gas is absorbed into a material, and then wicked out as it is needed. (A dreadful oversimplification, I know.) Connecting the existing fuel system to a fuel cell might be very rough. If the two could be directly connected, the gas guage would have to be adjusted to deal with the increased capacity- probably requiring a new sender. If not, a method of measuring the availible gas in the reserve supply, and of switching over, would have to be plumbed in. And, as the trunk is the more or less obvious location.. You would lose carrying capacity in a major way. I am certain that it can be done.. There are Wings out there with extra tanks... Maybe someone could ask over on one of the Wing lists for hints....? Bon chance, mon ami. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: optional fuel tank ? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:38:22 -0800 One thing to remember, is that the trunk needs to still be able to come off, for certian types of servicing and maintenance. Also the weight limit in each trunk half is 20lbs, so I don't think you could add more than 2 gallons. Only using one trunk half may also affect handling since the bike will be out of balance. Just my .02 Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: f5jgk@club-internet.fr > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:20 PM > To: Bob Broeking > Cc: f5jgk@club-internet.fr; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: optional fuel tank ? > > hello all, > last year, I would like to build myself a second fuel tank for my PC800 and > put > it > in the trunk (at the left side ) and connect it to the main one . > some of my firends told me that it is dangerous to do it in 'fiber glass' > because > if I fall > driving it could broke and fire could be possible ! > > I found in the http://www.fuelsafe.com/ site a compagny which can build a > second > fuel > take as I want. > > I would like to know if any one has already a second tank for his PC800 ? > If yes , could you give me some details of it ? > > Thank you, > Please, sorry for my english ! > > Thierry Grenoble FRANCE (PC800 90') > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:25:08 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: tenorandtuba@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dropping in to ask 2 Quick Questions for the List Subscribers... Chris: $109 for chrome foot pegs????? Did you mistake us for the Harley list????? Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Tony tenorandtuba@juno.com wrote: > > Hi All! > > folks who follow this listserver, too. The current cost for the peg > set-up is $109.00, and I can't see it costing much more "tooled" for the > PC. The pegs are chrome, but they match nicely with the "look" of the > PC. They also fold up. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gobeaugo@prodigy.net Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:31:38 -0500 (EST) To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC language lesson for today When I pressed the button for activating my recently installed Knuffelvisvoer, the Hysteltophen (originally installed by the prior owner) immediately shot out of the Ystwerk and disabled the Nmumenklatx. It for this reason I never ride on Tuesdays anymore... "Darth Beau" ---- On Mar 7 "Juan A. Goula" wrote: > Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: > > Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves > the PC800. :-) > > "Knuffelvisvoer" > > > I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > ------------------------------------------------- > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a > dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its > motorcycles." > > (with apologies to Greil Marcus) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:07:42 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC language lesson for today The courtroom hung desperately on the prosecutor's words as he asked the accused city councilman, who also owns a PC800, "You say you had no knowledge as to the use of this device. So now I ask you, sir; what is this knufflevis voer?" Ralph Couey BTW, do you know why championship dental hygienists insist on trophies? Because if they got plaques, they'd have to clean them. "Juan A. Goula" wrote: > > Ok folks, time for our semi-regular language lesson: > > Translate the following and use it in a sentence that involves > the PC800. :-) > > "Knuffelvisvoer" > > I have the feeling Emile will get this one first. > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > ------------------------------------------------- > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > "It is a sure sign that a culture has reached a > dead end when it is no longer intrigued by its > motorcycles." > > (with apologies to Greil Marcus) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:45:21 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:46:40 -0800 From: Matt Humphreys To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Greetings all. It's been a while since I've been at the site or talked with members. As usual, the need of help is what brings me back. Simple information really, if you have it. I am looking for an article from Rider magazine, maybe 3-5 years old. It was a Q&A letter where a description of a recommended method for re-mounting a Honda shaft drive rear wheel was given. I loaned that issue to a friend who wanted to look at the reviews of between bike communicators. As you can guess, I have never seen the issue again. If someone knows what issue that was in so I could get a copy or who knows where I might go to search for it, that'd be great. Thanks for any help you can give. Enjoy the ride... Matt Humphreys -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: ME880 150/90-15 Rear Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:18:33 -0500 Got my rear tire today, a ME880 150/90-15. Wow it looks BIG, and the tread is like the grand canyon! I measured it at about 5.5" wide unmounted, so it looks like it's gonna fit. Wish me luck! Overdrive, here I come... Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" , Subject: Re: PC800: throttle rocker Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:34:30 -0800 I believe it was Jim Alexander that knew where to get them for $7. Jim you out there? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Metzeler 880 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:05:44 -0500 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:49:56 -0500 (EST), Selden Deemer wrote: >If the mounted tire measures the same as I have reported, and any of >you are in the market for a new rear tire *AND* you have a chance to >make comparison measurements between a 150/80HB15 with 140/80HB15 >(better yet, compare with a K555) at a dealer, this might be worth >looking into. The load rating for the ME880 is only 577 pounds at >42 psi; I suspect that a 150 would have a higher load rating. The 150/90HB15 I just got is rated at 991 lbs. WOW! 140/90HB15 738 lbs 140/80HB15 I see 659 lbs (maybe at higher than 42 PSI?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:06:57 -0500 To: Matt Humphreys From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from www.pc800.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:46 PM -0800 3/7/00, Matt Humphreys wrote: > >If someone knows what issue that was in so I could get a copy or who >knows where I might go to search for it, that'd be great. Thanks for >any help you can give. Enjoy the ride... > >Matt Humphreys Hello Matt. Welcome back. Have a look at http://www.mcreports.com/ . This is the site of Ian Smith Information, which is the official place to purchase back issues of Rider magazine. Good luck. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Replacing the turn signal switch Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:38:46 -0800 I recently replaced my Hi/Lo and Start/Stop switches on my PC800 (they were looking ratty) :-). That went really well... a few screws, some plastic parts removed, pop out the old switch, unplug the cable, reverse the process :-). Nice and clean. You can probably do it without removing any plastic (if you know what you are doing). That went SO WELL, I figured I would replace the turn signal switch. After all, it was just as ratty looking and was kinda mushy(?) ;-). At any rate, I put one on order sight unseen and it arrived this weekend... with a three foot harness attached! Yikes! Where the heck does THAT go?!? :-) Not one to shy away from a challenge (right!)... I started removin' plastic. The turn signal switch is attached to the horn button and all that is attached to the harness that has a couple of wires that run to the horn and then three more connectors! All this stuff HAD to run SOMEWHERE! I pulled off the side vent covers just in case (that part is easy). I removed the side mirrors (also fairly easy). I removed the windscreen (things are getting out of hand here!). I removed all the plastic around the handlebars. Still not making lots of progress; I can even see where the wires GO! I remove the wire restrainer that holds all the cable (hydraulic and electrical) together before they all disappear into the head of my PC800. Tug... TUG... hmmm. I still have no clue as to where this stuff goes. After reviewing the "less than helpful" service guide wiring diagram, I come to the conclusion that my targets (I'm looking for three big connectors now) is in the head of my PC800 somewhere. How the heck am I supposed to get in THERE? :-) The "breakthrough" was when I thought 'how do you replace something simple' like the headlight bulb? That's GOTTA be easier than disassembling the ENTIRE PC800! Turns out it was :-). IMPORTANT: With the windscreen off, you can REMOVE the wind box(?). It's that gray plastic thing that sits behind the windscreen and vents air in and over the main console. Hope I've described it right :-). In the front, you peel back some rubber and sure enough there are two screws that get removed to take this thing off. Once the wind box(?) is removed, you have access to all the goodies in the PC800 "head". From there, it is just a matter of time before you have the old harness out and the new harness in :-) (my hands look like I've been fighting cats for a living!) ;-). I thought that someone might benefit from my excursion into the PC800 "guts" ;-). For you old hands at wrenching on a PC800, you can stop laughing now ;-). Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:19:26 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:19:22 -0700 From: Neillnsteph To: "Spain, Harrison" CC: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Replacing the turn signal switch Harrison: My bike is in pieces in the garage and so it was easy to check out exactly what you are talking about here. I've been having some issues with my turn signal too. I wouldn't call it mushy but more like sticky. It doesn't just snap back to the center position it kinda ooozes back very slowly and stiffly. Usually, I help it back with my thumb. I had been assuming that it was just kinda dirty and that if I took the covers off of the bars that I might get to the switch and maybe shoot it with a little WD-40. Is your "mushy" anything like I've described and now that you've got the old one out can you see any opportunity to refurbish it? What did you pay for the new switch and harness? "Spain, Harrison" wrote: > > I recently replaced my Hi/Lo and Start/Stop switches on my PC800 (they were > looking ratty) :-). That went really well... a few screws, some plastic > parts removed, pop out the old switch, unplug the cable, reverse the process > :-). Nice and clean. You can probably do it without removing any plastic > (if you know what you are doing). > > That went SO WELL, I figured I would replace the turn signal switch. After > all, it was just as ratty looking and was kinda mushy(?) ;-). At any rate, > I put one on order sight unseen and it arrived this weekend... with a three > foot harness attached! > > Yikes! Where the heck does THAT go?!? :-) > > Not one to shy away from a challenge (right!)... I started removin' plastic. > The turn signal switch is attached to the horn button and all that is > attached to the harness that has a couple of wires that run to the horn and > then three more connectors! All this stuff HAD to run SOMEWHERE! > > I pulled off the side vent covers just in case (that part is easy). I > removed the side mirrors (also fairly easy). I removed the windscreen > (things are getting out of hand here!). I removed all the plastic around > the handlebars. Still not making lots of progress; I can even see where the > wires GO! > > I remove the wire restrainer that holds all the cable (hydraulic and > electrical) together before they all disappear into the head of my PC800. > Tug... TUG... hmmm. I still have no clue as to where this stuff goes. > After reviewing the "less than helpful" service guide wiring diagram, I come > to the conclusion that my targets (I'm looking for three big connectors now) > is in the head of my PC800 somewhere. How the heck am I supposed to get in > THERE? :-) > > The "breakthrough" was when I thought 'how do you replace something simple' > like the headlight bulb? That's GOTTA be easier than disassembling the > ENTIRE PC800! Turns out it was :-). > > IMPORTANT: With the windscreen off, you can REMOVE the wind box(?). It's > that gray plastic thing that sits behind the windscreen and vents air in and > over the main console. Hope I've described it right :-). In the front, you > peel back some rubber and sure enough there are two screws that get removed > to take this thing off. > > Once the wind box(?) is removed, you have access to all the goodies in the > PC800 "head". From there, it is just a matter of time before you have the > old harness out and the new harness in :-) (my hands look like I've been > fighting cats for a living!) ;-). > > I thought that someone might benefit from my excursion into the PC800 "guts" > ;-). For you old hands at wrenching on a PC800, you can stop laughing now > ;-). > > Harrison > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Wfkj@aol.com for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:08:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:08:01 EST Subject: PC800: PC Problem To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In my capacity as the Motorcycles guide at About.com, I just read a message posted to my forum that concerns a problem someone is having with his Pacific Coast. Has anyone heard of this problem or have a solution? I seem to remember something like this one time on this list. Can anyone help? Walter Kern ------------ text of message ---------------------------- First of all let me say that this is a problem with a Honda Pacific Coast. Maybe someone here knows someone who knows someone who has heard of this problem. The dealer can't seem to figure it out. The left turn signal comes on and shortly after that the brake light comes on and the engine starts missing, backfires, shortly aftwards the left turn signal comes back on and then the engine dies. Apparently, when this happens it fries the ignition module. Also, during the trip the battery lost its charge and all of this happened about 12 miles after the bike was push started. Previously, the bike was in the shop for 4 months and the dealer pronounced it fixed after $1000.00 worth of work. It acts like a bad ground somewhere and I'm hoping someone out there has seen the fix to this problem and can help a fellow rider. He likes the bike because it's just the right size for him but I could see the disapointment on his face today. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:09:34 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:09:30 -0700 From: Neillnsteph To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Refurbished/Refurbishable parts Some errant cager's insurance company is buying me a bunch of new PC parts for my '94 PC. Some of the parts that I am replacing aren't that bad but at 5.5 years old and 43K miles, I'm in a sort of mid-life crisis and am willing to spend the insurance money to undergo some cosmetic surgery to take a few years of normal wear and tear off the appearance of my bike. I'm wondering if anybody might be interested in any of these items: 1. I have a somewhat scraped muffler cover. Its the chrome piece that goes over the muffler on the right side. It's really not too bad. I think I have a picture of it somewhere around here if you are interested. I think that it could be rechromed for about $60 or it could be used as is. New, this part would run between about $100-150. 2. I have a right hand front disk cover. It has a small non-structural crack in it. I am using it to practice Chuck C.'s crack repair techniques on. I think that this part could wind up to be almost "good as new". New, this part would run between about $56-80. 3. I have a right front upper cowl. Both lower tabs are broken off but I have the pieces and I think they could be reattached servicably. This is one of the most expensive panels on the bike. New, this part would run between about $280-380. I have a few other parts that I think still have some use in them but before I go to all the trouble to itemize them I wanted to see if there was any interest in these parts. I could work on refurbishing them or I could let them go as is. I'm not looking to make any kind of killing on these parts but if given a choice of giving them away or keeping them "just in case", I'll hang on to them. At the same time, while not "free to a good home", I'd rather see these parts put into service than I would clutter up my garage with them. If you have any kind of interest in any of these parts, I'm confident that we can arrive at some terms. Feel free to save listserver bandwidth by replying to me directly at neillnsteph@hotmail.com TTFN, Neill "webster" Thompson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:19:37 -0600 Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 06:59:13 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:59:10 -0700 From: Bob Coffman To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" CC: Neill Thompson , Neill Thompson , Bob Coffman Subject: PC800: "Designer PC Glovebox by 'Huze'(by Neill Thompson) "-FOR SALE --------------49593117CA5D3C1D4879FC07 Hi Everybody, You see, it's like this, we have this guy in town (Phoenix) who makes these PC 800 glove boxes. When you go over to his house you have to call him "Huze", as you watch him sit behind his sewing machine and assemble these 'creations' of his. He wears a beret, and reminds you that you are privileged to just be visiting the "House of Huze". Oh yeah, he got the name because his neighbors were told that he was some kind of famous designer, and their reaction was "Who's He" think he is, anyway, wearing that beret and everything? So he became "Huze" among the elite of society, those known by one name. Now, last summer I bought a BMW K75RTA and rode it till late August, alternating with my PC. When someone in San Diego asked for a good PC, I sold it to him. After six months away from the 'family', I decided to return. I bought another PC, this time, a '96 with 8k miles on it. The dashboard on it is near black, my '89 was gray. My original 'Huze' glove box no longer matches my steed! Neill Thompson, aka 'Huze', tells me that my excellent condition glove box, a prototype, is rare and special. It has a sturdier waist belt and a few other minor subtle differences. It is serial # 002a, #001 of course resides in the museum and grotto at Neill's house, and must be sold to make way for a black 2000 model. Now this is showing images of the glove box with a map of the southern Arizona area, and another with Huze's latest discovery, and soon to be available accessory, the digital clock with date and one touch night light dial face!!! A mere $20 addition to a 'Huze' glove box. Actually, Neill is so proud of his creation, 'The Huze Glove box', he has stripped the body work off his formerly black '94 PC, because the bodywork interfered with the beautiful lines of his designer creation, The Huze Glove box... Designers, wow! Since Neill is convinced that this original prototype bag is worth more than his current production model, (NTHuze003b)I will sell this to someone on the list for Neill, at the highest bid price by this weekend, (without the clock). My new bag is in the design phase at this time, possibly a two tone black over red! So let the bidding begin! Neill needs the money... Check out the pictures herein. 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