(InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:22:56 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: about this music Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:26:23 -0800 OK, I've read enough to offer my own opinion .. for what its worth (not much!) After 15 years of riding with speakers in my helmet and about 250,000 miles, I must say I don't like riding without it. I don't feel distracted but I can easily ignore the music be it radio or cassette. I find riding without something is more distracting than riding with it now. I can understand the person who is a new rider not wanting to be distracted, but when I decide to ride 8,000 to 9,000 miles on a vacation, the music / CB / radio / Intercom is vital to my (and my wifes) sanity and enjoyment of the ride. I will say when I got my first PC I didn't have sound on it and I bought some ear buds for a walkman ... they were both uncomfortable and distracting. I quickly installed the factory radio and hooked it up to my helmet speakers. Then I could ride just like normal. I don't think it has to be a negative issue for safety, but you need the ability to block it out mentally when the riding requires the concentration. I have noticed that sometimes during intense riding (very close to the speed limit ... at least the limit on the German Autobahn ;-) ), I tend to block out whatever I hear ... even my wife through the intercom! But my preference for tunes while riding is just that ... my preference ... not yours, you need to make your own decision. And I greatly respect those who decide it is not for them ... they are safer riders for the decision. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: PC800: about this music > >This is one of those "general purpose" questions that everyone seems to have >an opinion on--probably exacerbated by PMS... > >Des sez: > >>One of the reasons I ride is to get away from the everyday noise of work >>and people and the 9 to 5 environment. To be alone inside my >head. > >Putting aside the safety arguments--I think I ultimately have to agree. Nan >and I have always called our rides "Motorcycle Therapy" because it offers us >an opportunity to get away from the telephones, cell phones, pagers, and >other et ceteras that have become the hallmark of current mobile - and noisy >- society. We use the Sonic 2-way Intercom system, so we've got the >earphones built into our helmets. When I took my Oct '98 ride back to >Wisconsin I set up my portable CD player as company. By the time I got to >North Dakota I disconnected the system and packed it away because I >discovered it was detracting from the ride. As Desmond said - I couldn't be >alone inside my head. > >Tim Macy >Newberg, OR >'94 Honda Pacific Coast - The StealthMobile >107,790 Miles and Holding >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:16:46 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: about this music To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >Motorcyclists get a bad enough reputation as it is... > >Ride safe.... > >fsl :-) Especially those who ride BLACK motorcycles:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:32:49 -0400 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: about this music Guys, remember -- we weren't talking about -listening- to music as being the distraction, that's a heads-up activity. We were talking about messing with the discs, wires, batteries, volume control, tuning the radio, futzing with the "Ultra Digital Boom Bass Assist", that is, looking down at your stereo gear (or the bee-infested wolverine) while riding. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:41:36 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: about this music At 3:23 PM -0400 1/31/00, Daniel MacKay wrote: >- a bee-infested wolverine could be romping around in my trousers .... You may be thinking of "ferret legging," a (deservedly) obscure English sport: Basically the contest involves the tying of a competitor's trousers at the ankles and the subsequent insertion into those trousers of a couple of peculiarly vicious fur-coated, footlong carnivores called ferrets. The brave contestant's belt is then pulled tight, and he proceeds to stand there in front of the judges as long as he can, while animals with claws like hypodermic needles and teeth like number 16 carpet tacks try their damndest to get out. For a fuller write-up on this curiously English pastime, see: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~bkeyes/Ferrets/Ferret-legging.htm The world record, by the way, stands at 5 hours and 26 minutes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:42:59 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Lee Barker" CC: Subject: Re: PC800: about this music ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" >In the motorcycle accident, I was in the safer lane, at the speed limit. >The other driver didn't see me. No radio on the bike. > >In the truck accident, I was with the light, entering a one way street. >The perp was in the farther lane, obscured by the vehicles (already stopped) >in the nearer lane. My radio was on. At the risk of sounding like an insensitive ass, I think you're not adequately recognizing hazards. Since a left-turning car in front of a motorcycle is the most common car-motorcycle wreck, it's virtually predictable. Any motorcyclist should EXPECT the left-turning car driver not to see him unless there is evidence to the contrary. The "hidden" car was hidden only because it wasn't looked-for. Any time there's a row of cars, especially stopped or slow-moving, it's reasonable to expect there's a car "hidden" ... and it's a good idea to expect a hidden car until it's confirmed there isn't one there. I'm reminded of a fellow motorcyclist who told me a garbage truck came out of "nowhere" and ran over him. So sorry to sound insensitive or worse, but I really think this is time for some serious examination. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:14:38 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: about this music Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:18:10 -0800 That is true, but once you add something like music or any audio source, if you are affected by the audio which is a heads-up activity, you will be significantly affected by the "control and manipulation" of the audio source. Once my audio source(s) has a malfunction or needs adjustment, the olny thing I do is one of two actions ... turn the volume down or turn the device off, both of which I train myself to do in a heads up mode. I will then take care of the device when I stop. On my CB I have a push to talk switch on my left handle bar where my left index finger can press it without moving any other part of my hand. The volume on my CB is a large knob which can be adjusted without looking at the device and include the "OFF" function. One the audio device (either a walkman radio or a radio / cassette), the volume is controlled by an inline "roller" switch which I can reach and adjust with my left hand, but it does require taking my hand off the bars for a moment, so I plan this activity to happen in a controlled manner. In addition, I made sure these controls are easily operated by a gloved hand. My intercom (an Autocom Eurocom) is VOX controlled and reduces the audio volume so the conversation can take place. Of course, there is the one item I have trouble controlling .... my wife's volume, but she's pretty good about it and knows when not to talk to me! :-) This has all worked well and in my many miles while riding, there has not been a single time it has affected my ability to control the motorcycle or place me in jeopardy. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay [snip] >We were talking about messing with the discs, wires, batteries, volume >control, tuning the radio, futzing with the "Ultra Digital Boom Bass >Assist", that is, looking down at your stereo gear (or the bee-infested >wolverine) while riding. > [snip] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:23:26 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "Lee Barker" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: about this music Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:26:58 -0800 SIPDE - S ... Scan all areas that can affect you I ... Identify the possible hazards in your path P ... Predict the probable movement those hazards might have D ... Decide the defensive action you will take E ... Execute that action you have selected MSF used to teach this to all students ... that is what you are talking about. That is not being insensitive, just using what one has been taught. I'll never understand why MSF stopped using that phrase, it was so appropriate! Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chris Norloff > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Lee Barker" >>In the motorcycle accident, I was in the safer lane, at the speed limit. >>The other driver didn't see me. No radio on the bike. >> >>In the truck accident, I was with the light, entering a one way street. >>The perp was in the farther lane, obscured by the vehicles (already stopped) >>in the nearer lane. My radio was on. > > >At the risk of sounding like an insensitive ass, I think you're not adequately recognizing hazards. > [snip] > >So sorry to sound insensitive or worse, but I really think this is time for some serious examination. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: about this music Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:43:04 -0800 > >In the truck accident, I was with the light, entering a one way street. > >The perp was in the farther lane, obscured by the vehicles (already stopped) > >in the nearer lane. My radio was on. Chris: I was a bit inaccurate here. I was entering an intersection. I was on a two way street. The cross street was a one way. The vehicles stopped at the light in the nearer lane (the closest one an SUV) obsucred the Toyota Tercel in the farther lane. Given this scenario, at what speed would you enter the intersection, the light in your favor? Lee Barker > > > At the risk of sounding like an insensitive ass, I think you're not adequately recognizing hazards. > > Since a left-turning car in front of a motorcycle is the most common car-motorcycle wreck, it's virtually predictable. Any motorcyclist should EXPECT the left-turning car driver not to see him unless there is evidence to the contrary. > > The "hidden" car was hidden only because it wasn't looked-for. Any time there's a row of cars, especially stopped or slow-moving, it's reasonable to expect there's a car "hidden" ... and it's a good idea to expect a hidden car until it's confirmed there isn't one there. I'm reminded of a fellow motorcyclist who told me a garbage truck came out of "nowhere" and ran over him. > > So sorry to sound insensitive or worse, but I really think this is time for some serious examination. > > Chris Norloff > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:41:26 -0600 To: From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? com> Huh??? They STILL use SIPDE here... At least they did 6 months ago. Have they switched to something different in California??? Rich Fenwick Illinois ******* At 06:26 AM 02/01/2000 -0800, Jim Alexander wrote: >SIPDE - > S ... Scan all areas that can affect you > I ... Identify the possible hazards in your path > P ... Predict the probable movement those hazards might have > D ... Decide the defensive action you will take > E ... Execute that action you have selected > >MSF used to teach this to all students ... that is what you are talking >about. That is not being insensitive, just using what one has been taught. > >I'll never understand why MSF stopped using that phrase, it was so >appropriate! > >Jim Alexander >Bay Point, CA >1998 ST1100 STar Chaser >HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Norloff > > > >> >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>From: "Lee Barker" >>>In the motorcycle accident, I was in the safer lane, at the speed limit. >>>The other driver didn't see me. No radio on the bike. >>> >>>In the truck accident, I was with the light, entering a one way street. >>>The perp was in the farther lane, obscured by the vehicles (already >stopped) >>>in the nearer lane. My radio was on. >> >> >>At the risk of sounding like an insensitive ass, I think you're not >adequately recognizing hazards. >> > >[snip] >> >>So sorry to sound insensitive or worse, but I really think this is time for >some serious examination. >> > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:05:32 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:09:04 -0800 I'm glad to hear that. The last time I took the experienced rider course, they had indicated they weren't using it any more. Of course that was more than three years ago just before I went to Saudi Arabia. Glad to hear it is back ... it seemed stupid to drop it. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? > >Huh??? They STILL use SIPDE here... At least they did 6 months ago. Have >they switched to something different in California??? > >Rich Fenwick >Illinois > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: about this music To: PC800 Sometimes I ride with music. Sometimes I ride without music. I have a memory of riding out west one year. I was coming over a small pass. As I came over the top I saw a vast valley, a rode switching back and forth along a winding a creek. Log cabins dotted along the creek on the way down. At that point Pink Floyd, Learning to Fly, started playing and it was like I started drifting down the side of that pass towards the valley. It was magical and something I will never forget. There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, A state of bliss ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC's for Sales/Colors Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:32:43 -0800 The site open fine for me. Maybe Oregon is just a little too far out of the local "network". Washington must be inside the network. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC's for Sales/Colors >>Just a quick photoshop experiment: >>http://emile.itgo.com/images/green.jpg >>and in the new Jaguar racing team theme: >>http://emile.itgo.com/images/greenjag.jpg > >Emile, here's the message I got when I tried to access your pics. > >Forbidden > >You do not have permission to access this document. Binary files stored on >FreeServers must be accessed by a local link on a FreeServers user web page. > >I'll bet they were good pics too, Emile! > >Tim Macy >Newberg, OR >'94 Honda Pacific Coast - The Stealthmobile >107,790 Miles and Holding > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:41:24 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: List help Once again I would like to impose on the list for some help. I keep getting email from someone I do not know, in a language I do not understand. Since this list has such an International membership, I was hoping that someone on this list might recognize the following language. Please reply directly to me. thanks... fsl ***** sinonomate proti fora gnorizo kapoion poy exei to idio onoma mexri tora nomiza oti eixa tin apokleistikotita!xa xa!!o pateras moy einai apo thn vlaxokerasia arkadias!stin thessaloniki zei h aderfi moy monima poy einai paidopsixiatros. ***** *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:06:02 -0800 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: List help Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Francois, Looks like transliterated greek to me (seriously). Looks like someone converted the greek letters to our alphabet. I have no clue what the exclamation points are, unless it's some way of indicated diacritical marks (if greek even has them). "Thessaloniki" makes me think of a greek name for a city. It could also just be gibberish, someone pulling your leg. >***** >sinonomate proti fora gnorizo kapoion poy exei to idio >onoma mexri tora nomiza oti eixa tin >apokleistikotita!xa xa!!o pateras moy einai apo thn >vlaxokerasia arkadias!stin thessaloniki zei h aderfi >moy monima poy einai paidopsixiatros. >***** Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:29:44 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:29:19 -0500 From: Dana Sawyer Subject: PC800: Good...better...best! To: Pacific Coast list charset=ISO-8859-1 Time for me to stir the pot a little bit! I owned a '90 PC for 8 years and 75,000 miles. I now have owned a '97 PC for 8 months and 8,000 miles. There ain't no doubt in my mind...the '97 and '98 models are by far the best! The sporty-looking front end shows the world that it is a motorcycle, not= a big scooter! Several people asked me if the '90 model was a Cushman...none have asked that about my '97 model. Several people asked me if training wheels were an option on the '90 model...none have asked that about my '97 model. No...these folks weren't Harley riders! They weren't riders at all. Just common, ordinary people like your next-door neighbors. We all know that all motorcycles should be red...real Tabasco, tomato red= , not the Gold Wing metallic maroon of the '90 model! Models prior to '97 were just prototypes. They finally got it right in '9= 7! Too bad they quit after just two years! The '97 and '98 models bring high prices. I've turned down $10,000 for mine. Happy New Year to all... Dana Sawyer (now back to sleep, since I can't find my crayons) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 10:19:40 -0600 From: Steve DeLorey To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: List help Francois, It's been over 50 years since I studied Greek but that's what it looks like. Steve DeLorey Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > Once again I would like to impose on the list for some help. I keep > getting email from someone I do not know, in a language I do not > understand. Since this list has such an International membership, I > was hoping that someone on this list might recognize the following > language. > > Please reply directly to me. > > thanks... > > fsl > > ***** > sinonomate proti fora gnorizo kapoion poy exei to idio > onoma mexri tora nomiza oti eixa tin > apokleistikotita!xa xa!!o pateras moy einai apo thn > vlaxokerasia arkadias!stin thessaloniki zei h aderfi > moy monima poy einai paidopsixiatros. > ***** > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mariusz H" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:33:19 +0100 Hi! My name is Mariusz. I'm from Poland. I'm owner of the Honda PC800. I haven't the service book unfortunatly. = I'm going to service my motocycles in this winter bat I have = insufficient information. If some of Them can help mi I'll be grateful. = Especially I need information about fork (what kind of oil, what = capacity, what viscosity?). I'm waiting for all information about PC800 = ('89) which You can send to me. Sorry my English is not very good. Thanks! Ride safe! (I dont know how to say for English) Mariusz from Gdansk
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:43:19 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Lee Barker" CC: Subject: Re: PC800: about this music ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" >> >In the truck accident, I was with the light, entering a one way street. >> >The perp was in the farther lane, obscured by the vehicles (already >stopped) >> >in the nearer lane. My radio was on. > >Chris: I was a bit inaccurate here. I was entering an intersection. I was >on a two way street. The cross street was a one way. The vehicles stopped >at the light in the nearer lane (the closest one an SUV) obsucred the Toyota >Tercel in the farther lane. > >Given this scenario, at what speed would you enter the intersection, the >light in your favor? Slow enough to avoid someone running the red light (cover the brake, plan an excape route), with attention paid to anyone coming up behind me. Since I wasn't there, I obviously don't know all the details. There's also a trade-off -- slowing too much at an intersection can lead to other drivers thinking you're turning, and you have increased exposure to people coming up from behind. The most danger, of course, is people in front of you, including those approaching from ahead and off to the side. Big vehicles, such as SUV's, trucks, & vans pose a great threat in blocking our view. I've just heard too many stories of people who were hit by a "hidden" vehicle - 1. My brother-in-law, who was going 50 mph next to a stopped lane of traffic, hit someone who pulled out (someone pulled out, what a shocking and unexpected event!), and had to be airlifted to the hospital. Now he drives an SUV to be "safer". 2. A fellow motorcycle instructor who said a garbage truck "came out of nowhere" and rolled over both his legs. I didn't have the heart to ask how a garbage truck could come out of nowhere! and my apologies for hitting you while you're down, as it were. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:45:30 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? When I taught the Experienced Rider Course, it was shortened to Search-Predict-Act, which I think is better than SIPDE. SIPDE is still very good in the Beginner Rider Course because it speaks to the separate steps. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:09:04 -0800 >I'm glad to hear that. The last time I took the experienced rider course, >they had indicated they weren't using it any more. Of course that was more >than three years ago just before I went to Saudi Arabia. > >Glad to hear it is back ... it seemed stupid to drop it. > >Jim Alexander >Bay Point, CA >1998 ST1100 STar Chaser >HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 > >-----Original Message----- >From: R. Fenwick >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:42 AM >Subject: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? > > >> >>Huh??? They STILL use SIPDE here... At least they did 6 months ago. Have >>they switched to something different in California??? >> >>Rich Fenwick >>Illinois >> > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:56:29 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: about this music To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cnorloff@norloff.com writes: >Slow enough to avoid someone running the red light (cover the >brake, plan an excape route), with attention paid to anyone coming >up behind me. > >Since I wasn't there, I obviously don't know all the details. >There's also a trade-off -- slowing too much at an intersection >can lead to other drivers thinking you're turning, and you have >increased exposure to people coming up from behind. So what you are saying is my technique at an intersection of cranking up the music, twisting the throttle wide open, closing my eyes and yelling Geronimo might not be an approved method of crossing through. Francois, I guess you lead from now on:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:13:57 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rob Danner To: "'annreid@juno.com'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "scpcrc@listbot.com" Cc: "neillnsteph@hotmail.com" , "aspiring1@AOL.com" , "towmbo@neta.com" , "rae-gene@juno.com" , "wallace@mail.neta.com" , "itsbecob@AOL.com" Cc: "william.hitt@honeywell.com" , "azsmiths@extremezone.com" , "dollarl@primenet.com" , "michael_bracken@hp.com" , "aeronator@earthlink.net" , "RSCoon@AOL.com" Cc: "sfmitt@AOL.com" , "slicker@extremezone.com" , "ellenreid@worldnet.att.net" , "Lynn.E.Guilkey@aexp.com" , "david.ed.smith@honeywell.com" , "pughp@hotmail.com" Cc: "meschkow@juno.com" , "swift24@juno.com" Subject: PC800: RE: Mo'Cycle Insurance Fluke?? Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:13:19 -0700 FYI, Allstate came in about 23% lower than Progressive for the Blackbird (better coverage too)... Rob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com [SMTP:annreid@juno.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 8:31 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: neillnsteph@hotmail.com; aspiring1@AOL.com; robdanner@compuserve.com; towmbo@neta.com; rae-gene@juno.com; wallace@mail.neta.com; itsbecob@AOL.com; william.hitt@honeywell.com; azsmiths@extremezone.com; dollarl@primenet.com; michael_bracken@hp.com; aeronator@earthlink.net; RSCoon@AOL.com; sfmitt@AOL.com; slicker@extremezone.com; ellenreid@worldnet.att.net; Lynn.E.Guilkey@aexp.com; david.ed.smith@honeywell.com; pughp@hotmail.com; meschkow@juno.com; swift24@juno.com Subject: Mo'Cycle Insurance Fluke?? FWIW, I called Progressive Insurance today. We get a three-bike discount. In addition, they USED to give us a 15% discount for taking the MSF course every two years and I didn't notice it on my recent bill, which is what prompted me to call. This is what I was told when I called to day: In 1998 and prior years, they gave a 15% discount for MSF. In 1999 it was a 10% discount for MSF. In 2000 it is a 2% discount for MSF. However, if you belong to any Mo'cycle organization (club?) they'll give you a 5% discount. They had me fax a copy of my HRCA (Honda Rider's Club of America .... roadside service membership) to them. *DUH* Where's the logic/sense in that?? I mention it in case any of you wanna notify 'em or query your own insurance company. I spoke with Diedre at 800-888-7764. I faxed my pol. # and HRCA membership card along with request for add'l 5% discount to 800-250-1515. Ann Mon. 1.31.2000 8:25 MST '89 PC-AZ, Pacific Ghost '90 PC-AZ, A-Loud Red Cloud -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Y2K ride activities? Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:46:15 AKST To Steve, Beau and all of you who have joined this show already in progress, the Y2K is alive and well, thanks to the efforts of Leland and other volunteers. The details can be seen at the following URL http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html As for activities, I think ferrets are not enough of a challenge. Here in the New World, in the Canadian and Alaskan Frontiers, you need more, hence Daniel's reference to the wolverine. In a pinch, a big angry beaver or a couple of river otters will do :-) Now, if you really want torture, I still think we should have a contest in which participants strip their bikes of all plastic, then reassemble it. The one who does it in the shortest time wins. Points will be deducted for broken tabs and misaligned panels. Owners of '97/98 models start with a -200 point handicap. Let the games begin! Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 10:07:50 AKST Dana wrote: >There ain't no doubt in my mind...the '97 and '98 models are by far the >best! E tu, Dana? Allow me to offer another possibility. It could be that you don't get all of those dumb questions about the PC because it has been around for so long now, and the efforts of listers everywhere to educate the motorcycling public, not because the front wheel is naked of the bike is coffee bean red. Just a thought. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:37:08 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! To: obijuang@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/00 12:10:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, obijuang@hotmail.com writes: << There ain't no doubt in my mind...the '97 and '98 models are by far the >best! >> That is of course unless you can get your lucky hands on a 94 or 95 model. Honda cheapened the later models to try and hold cost down. There aint no doubt in my mind that if it aint black, then it aint as good as it could be!! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FP9NW802.VC5; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:38:32 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Mariusz H" , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:33:35 +0100 >My name is Mariusz. I'm from Poland. >I'm owner of the Honda PC800. I haven't the service book unfortunatly >Sorry my English is not very good. >Mariusz from Gdansk Hi Mariusz, welcome to the list. Your English is far better than my Polish, don't worry about it. Since your subject header might suggest you're not subcribed, here's the procedure in case you haven't: To subscribe to the list, send "subscribe pc800" (without " ") in the body (not the subject line) of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. After sending you will get a automated confirmation message you have to reply to (instructions inside that message). Is it the factory manual booklet you're looking for (the booklet with instructions that comes with a new PC800) ? In that case you can download a file with most of the pages from that manual that I scanned to jpg, from the following link (it's about 3mb): http://members.tripod.com/simflight/manual.exe Greetings from Holland, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:45:59 -0800 > << There aint no doubt in my mind that if it aint black, then it aint as good as it could be!! - Russ Vernon >> > Unless it were Blue! Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:39:22 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: Beau Williams , KGray96057@aol.com, greatned@cascade.quik.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: about this music <000601bf6c04$bf2671e0$5b5f9cd1@computer> <38965585.3B28F938@voyager.net> Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > Taurus 4 door or Wagon? They have a different 'coolness' factor... Ohhh, the 4 door of course. Wouldn't be caught dead in a wagon (or maybe someday I will). Hey this gives me a chance to segway into a non-pc800 item. I am currently looking to purchase a 1969 Dodge Daytona or 1970 Plymouth Superbird, if anybody knows of one, let me know off-line. Thanks. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. > > I have the 3/4 helmet with boom mike and > >earphones, but I have never liked the sound you get with those dang K&N > >helmet speakers (overpriced, piece of crap). > > Is this a Freudian slip for J&M speakers, or are there really K&N speakers? Dang it, yep, J&M. So crappy, I don't even like to remember their name. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:00:23 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC800 Rider CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: about this music > So what you are saying is my technique at an intersection of > cranking up the music, twisting the throttle wide open, closing my > eyes and yelling Geronimo might not be an approved method of > crossing through. > > Francois, I guess you lead from now on:-) > > Tim Davies Not if he just read the way you go through interesections, he won't have you behind him. :-D Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:35:34 EST Subject: Re: PC800: List help To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Betty -- You are correct! Salonika is the English version of Thessalonika, a city in Northern Greece. Clearly, someone is attempting to communicate without the benefit of greek letters on the Internet -- quite a feat. Gordon Creed Wash. DC 96 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:49:54 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: PC800: '95 PC800 for sale FOR SALE: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) Black/Silver with decorative accents Chrome railing behind and beside seat Simulated woodgrain dash and fairing pockets Foot Pegs Cigarette lighter Lighted VDO voltmeter and lighted VDO clock CycleCom CB/Intercom System with 2 J&R Headsets Givi 46 liter trunk with brake light Fairing mounted push button garage door opener Service Manual and original Owners Manual. Excellent mechanical shape, body has a few imperfections. Located in Evansville Indiana. 27K miles, asking $4800 Contact Tom: tjambro (at) sigecom.net More info at: HTTP://63.69.210.24/tom/pc800.html Tom Ambrosio tambrosi@sigecom.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: about this music Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:18:10 -0800 I too was initially a little leery about music while riding. But a lot of it was the majority of motorcycles don't tend to come with radios, so one tends to accept the lack thereof. Same thing when I learned to drive a car, the high school instructor never turned the radio on, when practicing with my parents, they always left the radio off, so when I started driving myself, I usually left it off. When driving the car by myself with a radio on, it was somewhat a distraction at first, but one's brain tends to climatize after a while and you don't notice it so much. The same thing occurred when I put a radio in my PC, it was a little distracting at first, until I determined the correct volume level, but is not distracting any more. In fact if it is off, I have the feeling that something is missing. It sure helped on the Y2K-1 checkout ride. I periodicly turned it on and off, depending on the interest level of the sceenery. It was a big help on that long stretch of 5 coming back home. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Portable Motorcycle Audio... Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:34:16 PST This SOUNDS :-) GREAT. But how many of you all have really been happy with the sound quality of a portable CD player on your bike? I've found that I couldn't find a really good place to put the thing without getting skiping and cut outs. Even tucked into my jacket was a problem. I tried it with two, one of which was supposedly build for automotive duty. I currently use a Sony water-resistant sports model walkman tape player. But even that has some problems. The tape player picks up interference from the ignition system. The radio does too, but FM is actualy better than the tape player. Headphone cord placement really plays a role here too. > >If you convert your music to Mp3 files (at a reasonable > > bit-rate), you can fit upwards of 8 hours onto a single CD!!! > > > > As you can tell, I'm practically aroused at the thought of this device. > > These are in production and will be available soon. If anyone is > > interested, I can get more info (and maybe we can get some wholesale >pricing > > in advance). Lemme know... Not having to change the CD when you ride, >or > > hell...not for several rides would be awesome. > >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:40:31 PST >That is of course unless you can get your lucky hands on a 94 or 95 model. >Honda cheapened the later models to try and hold cost down. There aint no >doubt in my mind that if it aint black, then it aint as good as it could >be!! ;-) You are oh... so... WRONG!!!! The best model year you can get your hands on is the 1996 model. Its got the "best" color red they make, and was before Honda tried to hold costs down by deleting the automatic turn-signals and stuck that dinky cute little fender on the front for 1997 and 1998. ;-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:56:13 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:32:45 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) CC: Pacific Coast list Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! > > > The '97 and '98 models bring high prices. I've turned down $10,000 for > mine. > FOR SALE.....98 PC800 AM/FM/CD, Tall shield, passenger backrest, electronic cruise, air temp & volt gauges 5,000 miles...cherry....ONLY $10,000 US dollars. :) Stan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 20:48:37 PST >Time for me to stir the pot a little bit! Aha! I see your ploy, Dana! It's like the needle on the record getting stuck! (Showing my age again--if you don't know what I'm talking about call your parents--!) The thread on "music" gets a bit longer than protocol calls for and you bring up the old "Best Color" thing again! Hmmm, I think I'll go to the archives and see who started all of those Best Color threads in the past.... :-) Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda Pacific Coast - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: List help Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:13:40 -0800 Looks Greek to me. Sorry couldn't resist. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:38:22 -0800 Sorry to be the barrer of some sad news but anthing after the 89 was just another copy cat only a horse of a different color just like in the Wizzard of Oz -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 02:03:44 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Portable Motorcycle Audio... To: dhallis@hotmail.com, dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hmmm... When I tried this, I used my trusty Panasonic 40 second anti skip CD player. Only time it ever skipped during my short test ride was when Xena and I hit a pothole so hard I thought we had fork damage. This same player has done yeoman service in my Geo Tracker, and that is _not_ the smoothest ride out there. Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kyle Dye" To: bpickett@homemail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Great Pics of the NW! Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:07:41 PST ----Original Message Follows---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bruce Pickett To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Gig Harbor, WA - 1/29/00 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:56:55 -0800 Hi everyone, I took another small trip today, and here is a retelling of it. You can see the photos that go along with this story at http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/20000129.html ----- Bruce, Thanks for reminding me how beautiful our section of the planet is--in my hustle and bustle to do the commute and keep my head above water doing the daily things of life, I forget how awesomely beautiful it is here. Sometimes I get bummed because it's the rainy season, but hey, I not shoveling snow up to my fanny! I know that other PCers have the same dilemma where they live. It's nice having a superb motorcycle to ride and go out and rediscover how nice we have it where we each live. Now someone's gonna write from some sunny, warm, somewhere and pop my warm, fuzzy moment! Kyle Dye Bremerton (Yeah, it's raining, but man it's beautiful), Washington 1989 Pearle White PC800 "Xela" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:03:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: SIPDE not being used??? Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:06:59 -0800 Ah yes, that was it ... the very forgettable SPA! ;-) I find the SIPDE acronym to be much better and actually easier to remember. But at least you reminded me about the SPA technique. After two ERCs you would think I would remember it, but what I remember is the SIPDE from 1986 when I took my first rider course. Kinda funny how those kinds of things stick with you. At least I know I am not going crazy ... I know the instructor made it a point to indicated to me that SIPDE was not used and SPA was in use and I chose to only remember the former. Thanks Chris. Jim Alexander -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chris Norloff > >When I taught the Experienced Rider Course, it was shortened to Search-Predict-Act, which I think is better than SIPDE. > >SIPDE is still very good in the Beginner Rider Course because it speaks to the separate steps. > >Chris Norloff > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:58:09 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! To: dhallis@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/00 7:42:59 PM Mountain Standard Time, dhallis@hotmail.com writes: << You are oh... so... WRONG!!!! The best model year you can get your hands on is the 1996 model. Its got the "best" color red they make, >> If that is what you own, and quite obviously it is, then go ahead and feel that way. Lots of people out there own the "second best" something-or-other, and if they keep telling themselves that theirs is just as good as the one that it is not, soon the day will come where they will actually believe it. As far as those of us that are fortunate enough to actually own the best (94 and 95 models), we will simply continue to shake our heads and smile! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:00:37 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/1/00 9:51:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: << Hmmm, I think I'll go to the archives and see who started all of those Best Color threads in the past.... :-) >> No reason to bother, Tim. WE know what the best colors are! Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:15:35 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Good...better...best! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) The best color is whatever color a Honda Pacific Coast owner is riding. End of story. Now lets move on... Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" RVPC800@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/1/00 9:51:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, >timbmacy@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Hmmm, I think I'll go > to the archives and see who started all of those Best Color >threads in the > past.... :-) >> >No reason to bother, Tim. WE know what the best colors are! > >Russ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Weaver, Chris" To: "'Doug Allis'" , dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Portable Motorcycle Audio... Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:17:56 -0500 For those of you willing to pay some extra money, try a minidisc player. I have one that I use occasionally and I have never (and I mean *never*) had it skip, no matter what the vibration. It's better for a motorcycle application, IMO, since it's a) smaller, and b) the discs are much more durable and easy to insert. Not that I do this while moving, but when you have gloved hands it's no problem. The minidisc player that I have can fit in a jacket pocket too, so there's no need to bring a tank bag along just for the music. Not only that, but you can put together your own mixes - this is nice if you want a collection of high-adrenaline music, just smooth instrumentals etc. I have to admit, however, that I don't use it too often. I also agree with one of the other listers that it's not as safe as riding without it. Unlike the PC800 listers on this thread, I own a Honda VTR, and I often enjoy listening to the motor more than any prerecorded music I could find anyway. :^) I usually only use the player when I know that I have a long, boring interstate ride in front of me. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Allis [SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:34 PM > To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: Portable Motorcycle Audio... > > This SOUNDS :-) GREAT. > > But how many of you all have really been happy with the sound quality of a > > portable CD player on your bike? I've found that I couldn't find a really > > good place to put the thing without getting skiping and cut outs. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: christopher.meier@us.pwcglobal.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) 2 Feb 2000 09:43:54 -0500 (EST) id 85256879.0050DCA2 ; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:43:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:42:10 -0500 Subject: PC800: RE: Portable Motorcycle Audio... To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: inline Agreed. But mostly because I'm too lazy to hook it all up and pick CDs for a short ride. However, when we road 2,000 miles or so to Bike week and back ... the system got ALOT of playing time. Believe it or not ... engine noise tends to get a bit boring after the first several hours. :-) --chris '94 RF900r ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: 'Doug Allis' , dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: From: "Weaver, Chris" Date: 02/02/2000 02:17:56 PM GMT Subject: RE: Portable Motorcycle Audio... --snip-- :^) I usually only use the player when I know that I have a long, boring interstate ride in front of me. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 07:15:04 -0800 I Second That........................ Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis >You are oh... so... WRONG!!!! The best model year you can get your hands on >is the 1996 model. Its got the "best" color red they make, and was before >Honda tried to hold costs down by deleting the automatic turn-signals and >stuck that dinky cute little fender on the front for 1997 and 1998. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: Throttle return Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:32:38 -0800 Sorry, this message is unrelated to tunes or color. ;-) My throttle does not need a throttle lock, because it simply stays put wherever I leave it. It turns freely, but it just doesn't return when I loosen my grip. It has been this way ever since I bought the bike in October. My PC800 service manual does not address throttle problems. Before I start tearing things apart to find out what's wrong, can somebody give me some pointers? For instance, is the return spring in the throttle assembly, at the carburetors, in the cable, or somewhere else? Do the throttle cables need to be lubricated? Any other suggestions? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Skippn' cds Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:10:20 AKST Kendal wrote: >When I tried this, I used my trusty Panasonic 40 second anti skip CD >player. I must have either the same or a very similar model. I took it with me on our trip to Valdez last fall and took two different routes. On the way south I rode down the George Parks highway (AK 3 to those of you that are checking your maps). Arguably, this is our best highway. Relatively smooth, mostly wide, nothing really challenging except the scenery. On this road my CD player skipped not at all the first half, then frequently on the second half. I couldn't figure out why. On the road to Valdez, the Glenn Highway (AK 1) I didn't use it because I was in CB contact with Gene and Stu. On my return to Fairbanks I took the Richardson highway (AK 4),our bumpiest, ruttiest, most frost-heaved paved highway. For the first 20 miles the cd player skipped all over the place. Then I decided to experiment. I stopped, turn the cd player off, then on, waited for it to play approximately the 40 seconds it has as a buffer and presto! The thing never skipped a beat from then on. This was repeatable. If I waited before I started rolling it played fine. If I started the cd while moving or did not wait long enough, it would skip again. Give it a try and let me know how it worked for you. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "'PC800'" Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle return Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 18:54:03 -0000 Hi Bruce, The throttle cables should be lubed, and the tube that fits over the metal part of the handlebar (with the rubber grip over the tube) should be lubed with, well I would use vaseline but graphite grease would be the real Rolls Royce job. This tube sticking on the handlebar is the usual cause of twist grip non return, unless of course the return spring on the carb housing is broken, but this is most unusual. Also just thought of another possible causew, - broken "push" or throttle return cable, (the second cable connected to the twist grip). But most likely cause IMNSHO, lack of lube on the grip tube. Cheers Russ BTW still no delivery :-{ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D To: 'PC800' Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: PC800: Throttle return > Sorry, this message is unrelated to tunes or color. ;-) > > My throttle does not need a throttle lock, because it simply stays put wherever I leave it. It turns freely, but it just doesn't return when I loosen my grip. It has been this way ever since I bought the bike in October. My PC800 service manual does not address throttle problems. Before I start tearing things apart to find out what's wrong, can somebody give me some pointers? For instance, is the return spring in the throttle assembly, at the carburetors, in the cable, or somewhere else? Do the throttle cables need to be lubricated? Any other suggestions? > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:51:24 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle return Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:51:54 -0500 > My throttle does not need a throttle lock, because it simply stays put wherever I >leave it. It turns freely, but it just doesn't return when I loosen my grip. It has >been this way ever since I bought the bike in October. My PC800 service manual >does not address throttle problems. Before I start tearing things apart to find out >what's wrong, can somebody give me some pointers? For instance, is the return >spring in the throttle assembly, at the carburetors, in the cable, or somewhere >else? Do the throttle cables need to be lubricated? Any other suggestions? > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" I bought an adapter that clamps on the end of control cables (throttle, clutch..) that allows you to pump spray lub down inside and through the cable. Another trick I used years ago was to roll a funnel out of alumium foil then tape it around the end of the outer cable then hang the cable up and fill the funnel with some light oil and let it sit overnight while the oil runs down inside the cable. That loosend things up. On all the bikes I have owned over the years, the throttle return spring is located at the carburator and it could be broken or disconnected. It's usualy around Bell crank where one cable wraps around one side and the other cable wraps around the other and you have a bell crank on the twist grip also. one side pulls the throttle open and the other cable pulls it closed. the cable that pulls closed has an extra slack adjustment somewere in the middle of the cable. I have yet to do any work on my PC since it only has about 8000 miles so I don't know how it's set up but if you dissasemble the throttle linkage at the carbs to replace the spring you may have to re-sync the carbs. I restored a 1977 goldwing a few years back and the return throttle cable, the one that pulls the throttle closed was completely rusted away inside. The new cables that i got from honda were not lubed very well and that's when i got the cable lubracator. You don't want to have to kill the engine with the kill switch to stop! I would pull the plastic off and check both cables and lube them. That will give you a chance to check that return spring. Can't hurt just to look Carl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle return Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 10:10:25 AKST Bruce Pickett wrote: >Before I start tearing things apart to find out what's wrong, can somebody >give me some pointers? Well, lubing has been well covered. that adaptor mentioned works great BTW. Another possiblity: Your bike has been taken apart at least once for painitng, maybe more. I take a guess and say that one of those tmes the throttle cables were not routed properly through the bodywork and they could be kinked somewhere. Dependng on how severe this king is, you might get away with routing it correctly, but if it is too severe then you'll have to buy a new cable and housing. One other possibility is that the cable inside the housing has started to fray. if this is true then it could let go anytime. Good luck on your repair adventure. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad Herndon" To: RVPC800@aol.com, dhallis@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:27:13 CST Boys and Girls, just be glad you're one of the lucky few who own a PC and can argue about it! Brad Herndon 1998 PC800 Mesquite, TX >From: RVPC800@aol.com >To: dhallis@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:58:09 EST > >In a message dated 2/1/00 7:42:59 PM Mountain Standard Time, >dhallis@hotmail.com writes: > ><< You are oh... so... WRONG!!!! The best model year you can get your hands >on > is the 1996 model. Its got the "best" color red they make, >> >If that is what you own, and quite obviously it is, then go ahead and feel >that way. Lots of people out there own the "second best" >something-or-other, >and if they keep telling themselves that theirs is just as good as the one >that it is not, soon the day will come where they will actually believe it. >As far as those of us that are fortunate enough to actually own the best >(94 >and 95 models), we will simply continue to shake our heads and smile! > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by presley.cybertrails.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2000 23:42:06 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:54:28 -0700 From: Don French To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 96 PC 800 for Sale - Phoenix, Az Hello members. I have a 96 PC800, great shape, tall clearview, 8,000 highway miles, $3995, firm. Please email me if you are interested...divorce really does force sale, unfortunately...the sale, not the divorce. dfrench@cybertrails.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:10:51 -0500 From: Bill McKenna ...... ....... Augusta Rotary Club http://www.augustarotary.org To: bmckenna@mint.net Subject: PC800: Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation New web page is up and posted at http://www.pbtfus.org Very well done, answers all your questions... Regards, -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA Say "YES" to Life!! Visit the New England Ride for Kids(R) Page @ http://go.to/nerfk ~ 1998 NERFK: A Great Beginning ~ 1999 NERFK: An Astounding Success! Thank You!! ~ ~ Join us August 20, 2000, your Mother would like that ;) ~ ~ 1000 bikes in 2000 ~ ~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:54:24 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Ryan Subject: PC800: antifreeze leaking from o-rings in cylinder heads Hello. I think I finally found the source of my antifreeze leak. It appears to be coming from the rear-most metal coolant hose where it enters the head. I am led to believe there is an o-ring where this hose connects. Does anyone know how to get this tube off? I have a PC service manual but it doesn't even *show* these hoses in the coolant section. It only talks about draining the coolant. It looks like I might have to remove the carbs to get to this hose? I'm contemplating trying some stop-leak. Got any recommendations? (The kind that only seals when it hits air, not just any small space.) The leak is very slow, I can put a pressure tester on the coolant system, put it up to 25 psi or so, and still nothing comes out of this seal. But its all wet, and after riding for a while (last season), I always smelled hot coolant when I parked the bike. I have small drips on both sides of the bike, too. Thanks a lot for any help. Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Fw: PC800: antifreeze leaking from o-rings in cylinder heads Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:00:36 -0500 >I'm contemplating trying some stop-leak BIG mistake in my opinion. Many years ago an auto dealer used stop-leak to seal a small coolant leak in my Saab. Bottom line, it ruined (clogged) the the heater core which was very expensive to replace. I wouldn't put it in a motorcycle cooling system under ANY circumstances. Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 8:56 PM Subject: PC800: antifreeze leaking from o-rings in cylinder heads >Hello. I think I finally found the source of my antifreeze leak. >It appears to be coming from the rear-most metal coolant >hose where it enters the head. I am led to believe there is >an o-ring where this hose connects. > >Does anyone know how to get this tube off? I have a PC service >manual but it doesn't even *show* these hoses in the coolant >section. It only talks about draining the coolant. > >It looks like I might have to remove the carbs to get to this >hose? > >I'm contemplating trying some stop-leak. Got any recommendations? >(The kind that only seals when it hits air, not just any small >space.) > >The leak is very slow, I can put a pressure tester on the coolant >system, put it up to 25 psi or so, and still nothing comes out >of this seal. But its all wet, and after riding for a while >(last season), I always smelled hot coolant when I parked the >bike. I have small drips on both sides of the bike, too. > >Thanks a lot for any help. > >Ryan > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:46:51 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Skippn' cds To: obijuang@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu On the Panasonic, the anti-skip is turned on and off by a button on the face plate. And it isn't on by default when you activate the player. Every time you tun the thing off- change a CD or some such- you have to remember to activate the anti-skip. If you do it when the CD starts to play, it seems as if it wants to load that buffer before the player will work properly. Some CDs will play through the load time, others won't play until the buffer is full. A little fiddly for the bike, now that I think about it. KcG 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Great Pics of the NW! Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 23:02:53 PST (A) Well laid out story and great pictures! (B) I've GOTTA get a digital camera! Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:23:14 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Throttle return "Pickett, Bruce D" writes: > My throttle does not need a throttle lock, because it simply stays > put wherever I leave it. It turns freely, but it just doesn't return > when I loosen my grip. It has been this way ever since I bought the > bike in October. My PC800 service manual does not address throttle > problems. Before I start tearing things apart to find out what's > wrong, can somebody give me some pointers? For instance, is the > return spring in the throttle assembly, at the carburetors, in the > cable, or somewhere else? Do the throttle cables need to be lubricated? > Any other suggestions? Does the throttle have any free play; that is, can you rotate it back and forwards a small amount without the engine responding? If the throttle cables are adjusted too tightly, the throttle can bind as you describe. Dealers usually set the cables too loosely for my taste, and I end up reducing the free play until the throttle just starts to bind at full steering lock; this leaves a very small amount of free play when the bars are straight. If your cables aren't binding, then you may need a little bit of lubricant between the plastic throttle tube and the handlebar; STP silicon lube works nicely. On bikes where it's easier to disassemble the throttle, I usually squirt some cable lube down each throttle cable, from inside the handlebar throttle assembly. However, since the PC's throttle cables are so well protected against dirt and dust, this doesn't seem necessary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AJDOBBS@aol.com for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:24:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:24:23 EST Subject: PC800: PC "Parting Out" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Good morning, I found this listing of a '89 PC being parted out. I do not know the sellin= g=20 party - it appeared on the GWRRA Member Classifieds ads. I hope this is=20 helpful! 89 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast =A0 - Hilliard, OH 15:23:10 2/02/00=20 ****PARTING OUT****PARTING OUT**** I have the complete bike with upper=20 fairing damage. Motor (12k miles), $850, complete fork assembly $375, guages= =20 $245, headlight $155, lots of good plastic. Call or email with request.=20 Everything negotiable!!! Ray 614-527-4650=20 cycles@mindspring.com=20 Have a good day, A.J. Dobbs '94 PC w/ Colman Trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:05:40 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Steering Head Bearings I want to check, and probably tighten the steering head bearings on my 1996 PC, which currently has about 18,000 miles on it. I think that loose steering head bearings may be part of the cause of the 35-40 mph wobble that I've reported. The wobble doesn't really bother me, but the edges of the rear tire (K555) are badly cupped at 9000 miles, and I want to make sure that the steering stem OK before I put a new tire on the bike. If any of you have done this, can it be done without a full Tupperware party or completely disassembling the handlebars? By removing the two small dash panels behind the steering stem, it looks like I should be able to get to the two pinch bolts and the center nut to remove the top triple clamp. The bars would have to be unbolted, of course, but I'm hoping there will be enough room to remove the triple clamp with them just set to one side. It might be a good idea to pull the "shelter", which means also popping the side access panels, but I'm hoping to do this without removing more body work, especially the handlebar shrouds, levers, throttle, and switchgear. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Steering Head Bearings Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:51:17 AKST Selden Deemer wrote: >The wobble doesn't really bother me, but >the edges of the rear tire (K555) are badly cupped at 9000 miles, and >I want to make sure that the steering stem OK before I put a new tire >on the bike. If it is really the _rear_ tire that is cupping, then I'd look at the swing arm bushings and the rear shocks first. If it is the front tire, you might be able to do it with just removing a few parts like you suggest, but you wouldn't be able to set the torque to specs on many bolts. This to me would be unacceptable, but only you can determine your level of comfort with such things done to your bike. It really isn't that big a deal to remove the upper fairing. the dashboard can remain in place, as can the gauges. This would give the opportunity to check out other things in detail while you are in there, or get to know your bike better at the least. Either way you proceed, good luck and keep us posted. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mariusz H" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Odp: PC800: Steering Head Bearings Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:16:56 +0100 I think Juan is right. You must check the swing arm bushings and the rear shocks first (if your rear tire is badly cupped). I suppose you ride all time with coerrect pressure in your rear tire of course. My front tire is badly cupped. I'm going to change the steering head bearings in my PC. I have PC '89. I disassembly front suspension, I have ball bearings in my PC. I bought new bearings (this are cone roller bearings). After assembly the pin (I dont know how call this part) is too short to bolt- why? What year has a cone roller bearings? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Mariusz Hajdarowicz Gdansk, Poland m.hajdarowicz@geg.tmiasto.pl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ ----- Wiadomooæ oryginalna ----- Od: Selden Deemer Do: PC 800 List Wys³ano: 3 lutego 2000 17:05 Temat: PC800: Steering Head Bearings > I want to check, and probably tighten the steering head bearings on my > 1996 PC, which currently has about 18,000 miles on it. I think that > loose steering head bearings may be part of the cause of the 35-40 mph > wobble that I've reported. The wobble doesn't really bother me, but > the edges of the rear tire (K555) are badly cupped at 9000 miles, and > I want to make sure that the steering stem OK before I put a new tire > on the bike. > > If any of you have done this, can it be done without a full Tupperware > party or completely disassembling the handlebars? By removing the two > small dash panels behind the steering stem, it looks like I should be > able to get to the two pinch bolts and the center nut to remove the > top triple clamp. The bars would have to be unbolted, of course, but > I'm hoping there will be enough room to remove the triple clamp with > them just set to one side. It might be a good idea to pull the "shelter", > which means also popping the side access panels, but I'm hoping to do > this without removing more body work, especially the handlebar shrouds, > levers, throttle, and switchgear. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: M.Hajdarowicz@geg.tmiasto.pl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Odp: PC800: Steering Head Bearings Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:41:13 AKST Mariusz Hajdarowicz wrote >After assembly the pin (I dont >know how call this part) is too short to bolt- why? What year has a >cone roller bearings? Mariusz, It is possible that the races (the surface against which the cone rollers press on the outside of the bearing) have not been fully seated in the steering head. Try tapping them in with a socket (or cylinder that closely matches the outside diameter of the race) a bit further. Be gentle, you don't want to damage it. If the races are fully seated then it is possible that you might have incorrect bearings. One more thing. If your bike has more than 20,000 miles (33,000 km) you might want to change the front wheel bearings as well. Good luck! Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 16:14:10 -0500 From: "Kenneth L. Winter" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: tire patch kit Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at their home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a mushroom shaped tire plug. What do you think of the product? Kenneth Winter East TN 1990 PC (Second Chance) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:36:11 -0800 From: Roger Pariseau To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tire patch kit "Kenneth L. Winter" wrote: > Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at their > home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a > mushroom shaped tire plug. What's their URL, please? -- Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Kenneth L. Winter" , Subject: Re: PC800: tire patch kit Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:51:08 -0500 I haven't used it, but a my riding buddy had a flat on his ST and he swears by it. He said it was pluged and inflated in about 40 min. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Kenneth L. Winter To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: PC800: tire patch kit >Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at their >home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a >mushroom shaped tire plug. >What do you think of the product? > >Kenneth Winter >East TN >1990 PC (Second Chance) > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:45:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:45:19 EST Subject: Re: PC800: tire patch kit To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/3/00 3:05:10 PM Central Standard Time, KLW@centurytel.net writes: << Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at their home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a mushroom shaped tire plug. What do you think of the product? >> I am also looking into the purchase of a tire repair kit. The Stop&go kit looks good, however I read that it does not use any glue at all. Seems strange, but one assumes that the mushroom shape is enough to seal reliably. I like the tool used to install the plug. Seems like the easiest way to install a plug while on the side of the road. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:48:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:48:57 EST Subject: PC800: Check out Stop & Go info Harley Davidson motorcycle parts, supplies, accessor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: Stop & Go info Harley Davidson motorcycle parts, supplies, accessories Try this site for the scoop on the stop&go repair kit. Pix too Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:49:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:49:49 EST Subject: PC800: Check out Dali Meeow - Tire Repairs / Inflation Recommendations To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: Dali Meeow - Tire Repairs / Inflation Recommendations Here is another tire repair site. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Nyffeler" To: "PC800 Group" Subject: PC800: Steering Head Bearing Adj. Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:22:21 -0600 SNIP tighten the steering head bearings, can it be done without a full Tupperware party? Not when I did it. I ended up removing all, I repeat all of the Tupperware from the seat forward. We removed just the pieces around the top where you would tighten the nut. But just couldn't get enough access to the area. So we had to do it the hard way. If someone has tightened the bearing without removing all of the Tupperware I'd sure like to talk to them. Jim Nyffeler nyfty@navix.net 1989 PC800 (FOR SALE) Lincoln, Nebraska USA "GO HUSKERS!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Fw: PC800: Tupperware party... Plugs? Help! Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:13:29 -0500 I don't have a lot of data points but while accumulating 46K miles on the PC (actually, it's Nancy's PC now). I've tried several spark plug brands and change intervals. My admittedly somewhat subjective conclusions are: 1) NGK and ND plugs are slightly superior to American-made plugs. Champions use a differenct socket size and Autolites suck big time (also the WORST plugs I've ever tried run in 2-stroke engines) 2) With NGKs, 8K miles is too soon, 16K is too long - I'd say 12K is about right during the warmer months 3) plug life is poorer in the winter probably due more use of the choke - to maximize plug life and minimize engine wear and emissons get the bike running without the choke asap Jim Randall '94 ST1100 (black, of course) '95 PC800 (also properly dressed for the evening) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com To: rstar@aa.net ; rich@pdnt.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 9:22 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Tupperware party... Plugs? Help! >In a message dated 1/23/00 11:55:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rstar@aa.net >writes: > ><< I changed mine at 8,000 miles, the boots required a little more > tugging than usual, but came off OK. When I looked at the old plugs, I > thought I was wasting my time changing them, they looked really good. > But I did noticed a difference with the new plugs and glad I changed > them. The smooth engine was smoother even more. At 12,000 miles, you > are over do and should notice a difference. >> >I wonder if some of that is imagination. I change my plugs at 25,000 and for >the most part, they look as good as they did when I put them in. I have never >noticed the bike running any better or worse either. It certainly wont hurt a >thing to change them more often than necessary, but dont think that it is all >that necessary myself. > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Fw: PC800: On the subject of tires.... Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:32:21 -0500 I've run K555, K177 and ML2 so I don't think tires have very much to do with this observation but it was reinforced for me yesterday when I rode the PC for the first time in a couple of months. I been riding the ST most of the time (about 8K miles since Oct) with an occasional ride on a little Ninja I've been working on. There's a lot of salt/sand still on the roads now from the recent snow and I noticed (again) how "squirrely" the PC is when transitioning from normal to low traction surfaces. It seems quite stable when the traction is constant (even on low traction gravel roads) but when there is a dramatic reduction in traction (like running over a sandy patch) the front end wants to wash out much more than either of my other bikes. Just an observation. Jim -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:59 PM Subject: PC800: On the subject of tires.... > >Hello everyone. > >I noticed that there has been a lot of talk about tires in the last >few days. This hasn't come up yet, but the Dunlop K555's are not very >good in the snow. > >It warmed up here today to a balmy -4 so I thought that I would take >Matilda for a little run down the road. While the road was mostly >free of snow (small patches here and there) the 200 foot driveway >from the garage to the road was completely snow covered, and has a >turn and a small hill to negotiate. > >Well, I didn't drop it! I managed to get past the snow covered >parts to a piece of road, and took her for a 10 minute ride around >the block... Wow! What a great feeling! It was a little 'crisp' >out there but I had a great time! > >I also installed a BMW style 12V outlet behind the right side >passenger foot peg. I will use this as a connection point for a >Battery Tender (yet to be purchased) and my passengers will be able >to use it as a connection point for heated clothing. > >Ride safe.... > >fsl :-) > > >*** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > >1. > > > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:58:10 EST Subject: PC800: Check out Dali Meeow - Tire Repairs / Inflation Recommendations To: Ridr44@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: Dali Meeow - Tire Repairs / Inflation Recommendations Click here: Stop & Go info Harley Davidson motorcycle parts, supplies, accessories Ridr44, Check the above two links for info on where to get the kit as well as pricing. I am probably going to get the kit from progressive suspension. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:04:21 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: tire patch kit To: KLW@centurytel.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KLW@centurytel.net writes: >Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at >their >home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a >mushroom shaped tire plug. >What do you think of the product? > >Kenneth Winter >East TN >1990 PC (Second Chance) The March issue of Rider magazine has an article about this patch kit. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:46:06 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: tire patch kit "Kenneth L. Winter" writes: > Has anyone tried the (Stop & Go) tire repair kit? I looked at their > home page and the product looked interesting. I like the idea of a > mushroom shaped tire plug. > What do you think of the product? During a break in an MSF course last fall, several of us got talking about tire repairs. Several people had used the Plug 'N Go kits and mushroom plugs, and said that after doing so they would never use any other method. I think they all agreed that it was the inserter "gun" that makes this approach work better. I ordered a kit soon after, the one that comes in a cardboard box, which fits nicely in the bottom of the right side trunk. It's too big to go all the way down, but I have a first aid kit under it, so no space is lost. That said, I haven't had a flat on either bike, but I have a car with a sheet metal screw in the tread, so maybe I'll give it a try this weekend. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Steering Head Bearings Thanks for the various comments. I hadn't thought about the rear shocks. Neither the front nor rear suspension *feels* loose. I've heard a dictum from others that chassis problems on a motorcycle generally reflect something wrong at the opposite end, which is why I was looking to the steering head bearings. However, if pulling the top clamp requires a total teardown, I'll defer it, as I don't feel like taking on a project of that duration in an unheated garage in February -- not even in Atlanta. However, I may start talking to the Works Performance folks a year ahead of my planned replacement interval. Looking through the archives, reports say that WP builds the rear shocks for a PC "to order" based on rider weight, riding style, etc., but that they aren't adjustable. Has anybody asked them about options from the base build? The rear shock on my Hawk has adjustable compression and rebound damping, and it's quite handy to crank in more rebound on a long ride when the shock heats up and starts to lose its effectiveness. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Oh Lai Timg" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 23:03:59 +0800 Importance: Normal Hi all, My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. 1996 PC ...Oh L.T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:25:20 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: steven@capital.net (Dave Steven) Subject: PC800: ** Pacific Coast Wanted ** Sold mine a few years back and now regret it. Any leads anywhere in US helpful, but close to NY the best. I'll consider anything, but newer/lower mi.s preferred. send details: year/mi./color/accessories fitted/ $ etc. I'm an immediate buyer; cash in hand! Thanks group. Good to be back. Dave -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:38:02 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:38:58 -0500 > Hi all, > My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. > Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in > about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this > maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully > insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. > 1996 PC ...Oh L.T The damage is done. You may be able to get a tap at an automotive store that you could run in the hole to clean up the threads. problem with doing that is you may not thread the tap in the old threads correctly and then cause more damage. You will also have dirt falling into the cylinder no matter what you do. The plug screwed in half way will limit the power from that cylinder and could possably blow out. I'd pull the head off and repair the threads. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:45:47 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Chicago International Motorcycle Show... Next weekend... It starts one week from TONIGHT! The International Motorcycle Show at the Rosemont Convention Center, near Chicago, IL. I was hoping to have some sort of a "get together" at the show, most likely on Saturday. I currently have the below folks interested in having a "get together" of some sort. William Drake MICHAEL TOLAR "Michael S. Prapuolenis" Kwood I am looking for any others who will be in the area who are interested in a get together at the show and/or a possible "breakfast" on Saturday morning. I will be setting up "home base" in Naperville, my "home away from home". I will be staying at the Wyndham Garden Hotel (where I stayed many a night while working for a company that is HQ'ed in Naperville). Let me know. I'd like to get as many people together for this as possible. Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800L, 23,525 miles (it's still naked...) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Oh Lai Timg" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:40:16 -0800 I am not much of a mechanic, but if the plug is not fully seated I don't think I would be driving it. While back a friend had a car with a similar problem and he was driving it. The plug shot out of it's hole and put a big dent in his hood. Don't know what it would do to plastic. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Oh Lai Timg To: PC 800 List Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 6:59 AM Subject: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug >Hi all, > My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. >Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in >about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this >maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully >insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. >1996 PC ...Oh L.T >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:37:35 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Chicago International Motorcycle Show... Next weekend... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) If you want to have a trial run of the Chicago get together you can come to New York City this weekend for the International Motorcycle Show and join 3 of us from the list at the Javitts Center. Then you'll be all practiced up for the following weekend:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" fenwick@nn.com writes: >It starts one week from TONIGHT! The International Motorcycle >Show at the >Rosemont Convention Center, near Chicago, IL. > >I was hoping to have some sort of a "get together" at the show, >most likely >on Saturday. I currently have the below folks interested in >having a "get >together" of some sort. > >William Drake >MICHAEL TOLAR >"Michael S. Prapuolenis" >Kwood > >I am looking for any others who will be in the area who are >interested in a >get together at the show and/or a possible "breakfast" on Saturday >morning. > >I will be setting up "home base" in Naperville, my "home away from >home". >I will be staying at the Wyndham Garden Hotel (where I stayed many >a night >while working for a company that is HQ'ed in Naperville). > >Let me know. I'd like to get as many people together for this as >possible. > >Rich Fenwick >Illinois >1990 PC800L, 23,525 miles (it's still naked...) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:15:48 -0000 Good news, well sort of. The thread can be repaired in situ, but there are risks. Obtain a helicoil set for M12 threads. With piston at TDC run the supplied helicoil tap into the hole with LOTS of grease to catch the swarf. Put in the helicoil. Vacuum out the cylinder with a tiny computer type vacuum cleaner. Do all this keeping your fingers crossed and gripping a very wooden thing. If you are in doubt about your abilities, go to a qualified technician. If he mashes it up, you have got someone to come back on. If you mash it up, well, you learn something everyday. Good luck either way. Russ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" > Hi all, > My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. > Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in > about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this > maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully > insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. > 1996 PC ...Oh L.T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:39:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:39:32 EST Subject: PC800: Givi's toll free number To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I know I have asked this before, but does anyone have Givi's toll free number again. thanks RIde Safe Jim T Beacjhwood, NJ 1996 PC800 40 K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:49:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:49:15 EST Subject: PC800: part numbers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone ever had this problem ?? I wanted to check out a few internet prices on PC800 body parts. I see that I need the Honda part numbers. I went today to my local Honda dealer and asked him to look up a few parts, which he did with no problem and gave me the prices. When I asked for the part number he said he could not give that info out. I went to the sales man who sold me the bike and he said he was sorry but it was Hondas rules. I them told him that if I ordered it , the numbers would be on the slip, or when the part came in // on it. He could only say sorry. I will be honest, If I got the numbers from him and could them get it cheaper on the web I would, but I have given him a lot of money over the years. Before I "trash him" to others I would like to get thoughts from others on this subject, Ride Safe Jim T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC800 40K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: part numbers Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:57:32 AKST Jim T wrote: >Before I "trash him" >to others I would like to get thoughts from others on this subject, It seems kind of silly to me since they _will_ sell you the microfiche, which has all the part numbers in it. In fact, this might be the easiest solution for you. If you don't have a fiche reader I'm, sure your local public library does. Good luck! Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Fw: PC800: Re: L. S. Mirror Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:39:13 -0500 there's also an '89 at Dutton's Cycle Salvage, Rural Retreat, VA (540-686-5683). The plastic is broken up to the point that nothing is usable without extensive repair and the stator is missing (imagine that!) but the rest of the engine/tranmission/drive train/wheels, etc are still mounted.- it has about 8K miles on the odometer. Normal price for salvage parts at this yard is 40-50% of new. The bike is not stored inside so it will probably deteriote pretty quickly. Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Manuel J. Solis To: Tony Reed Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: PC800: Re: L. S. Mirror >FYI! > >I found a Rolling Chassis of a 89 PC at the local >Cycle Salvage. If there are any items that you might >need, I can usually get them 1/2 of the OEM list price. >This place is fairly close to my house and I don't mind >picking up items that our members may need. > >There are no urethane parts on. . . > >There is also a full (VT800) motor their if anyone is >interested.. > > >Can you tell I'm getting board! >It's been raining for the last 4 days here in the S.F. Bay area >and I'm getting stir crazy! If I can't work on my bike, at >least I can help someone else with theirs. > >I HATE RAIN! > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Manuel J. Solis >To: Tony Reed >Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 3:25 PM >Subject: L. S. Mirror > > >> >>Well, I found one! >> >>It's a black left side mirror and housing. >>There is a couple of scrapes in it and the >>mounding will need a little alignment.. >> >>The guys want $75 for it out here. Let me know >>if that is a fair price for you. The list price if over >>$140.00 OEM from Honda. Other members may be >able to get you one for less CA$HOLA!!! >> >>They also have a full rolling chassis of a 89 here if >>there is other functional parts that you need. There >>are no urethane parts on it. >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Tony Reed >>To: morttis@ix.netcom.com >>Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 8:57 AM >>Subject: Re: i need help >> >> >>>thank you very much for your e mail i was very stressed this days because >i >>>cudn't found the parts i need. >>>i will call to your home today to see want can you do for me,i'm really >>glad >>>that a latin people help me as you know i'm mexican my parents are gringos >>>but i was born in mexico and this is my second semester studying in the >>>united states so thats why i'm kind of disconected about junk yards and >>>places where can i buy pieces for my baby. >>>thanks again and i'll call today at 8:00 pm from there,if you speak >spanish >>>let me know because i think that will be better for me . >>> >>> >>>>From: "Manuel J. Solis" >>>>To: "Tony Reed" >>>>Subject: Re: i need help >>>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:02:45 -0800 >>>> >>>>Dear Tony, >>>>This may be old news, but I thought I'd give it to you just in case..... >>>>In fact, my husband is the actual PC rider and may have told you about >>this >>>>place near us already, but; oh well! >>>>Anyway, when he needs pc parts we go to a place here in Fremont, CA, >>called >>>>Cycle Salvage. >>>>They sell totalled bikes for parts or used as a whole, etc. Sometimes >>they >>>>have pc stuff sometimes >>>>not. Checking the warehouse means looking in the containers out back, >you >>>>get the idea. >>>>They don't always give ME the best price, but they do all right for Paco >>>>usually. He's always >>>>looking for an excuse to go over and check out inventory, so please call >>us >>>>at home if you'd like >>>>someone to check it out for you (make sure the condition is good and >>>>indispensible connectors >>>>still there, etc.) Good Luck ! >>>> >>>>Wendy and Paco Solis >>>>(510) 790-9323 >>>>morttis@ix.netcom.com >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Tony Reed >>>>To: scpcrc@listbot.com >>>>Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:11 PM >>>>Subject: i need help >>>> >>>> >>>> >So. Cal. PC Riders Club - http://scpcrc.org >>>> > >>>> >the last monday i felt off my byke(1990 pc800) and i broke the left >>>>mirror >>>> >and the left side protector ) i need your help to find this pieces used >>i >>>> >really want to put this pieces to my byke really soon because it >breakes >>>>my >>>> >heart look my byke in that condition i've always take care of my byke >>but >>>>as >>>> >you know accidents happen and know its to late to be sorry. >>>> >please help me find this pieces i want to buy something cheap. >>>> > >>>> >thanks : >>>> > tony reed. >>>> > >>>> >______________________________________________________ >>>> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com >>>> >______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >Applying to college this year? >>>> >Apply online at Embark.com and enter the Embark.com Tuition >Sweepstakes! >>>>You could win $80,000 for tuition to the college of your dreams! Enter >>>>daily >>>>to increase your chances of winning: Sweepstakes ends 1/15/00. Click to >>>>enter: http://www.listbot.com/links/embark >>>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Fw: PC800... Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:40:58 PST Whoever wrote: > >I HATE RAIN! complaining about rain in the SF Bay area should try the last two and a half weeks here in the DC suburbs and northern VA area... where it snows a bit, then a bit more, then it snows about a foot, then ice, then fluries a bit more. Each time it snows/ices the plow tries, but just can't quite clear it all off my street. It puts what it does clear in my driveway. WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE CHOP THE ALL THE ICE OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY !!!!!!?? There I feel much better... Despite it all I have missed only three days motorcycling to work. :-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Not another oil thread! AARRGGHHH! Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:46:05 AKST this is just out of curiosity: The local Shucks Auto is selling Mobil 1 Motorcycle oil (both 10W-40 and 20W-50) for $6.75 a quart. How does that compare with other locations? thanks! Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Winter? Did you say winter...? Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:52:11 AKST Doug Allis wrote: >complaining about rain in the SF Bay area should try the last two and a >half weeks here in the DC suburbs and northern VA area... where it snows a >bit, then a bit more, then it snows about a foot, then ice, then fluries a >bit more. Ooooooo... the nerve of some people. Vinnie and Guido are going to be busy this weekend... >:[ Juan "I've got (literally) 8 _more_ weeks of snow and ice left" Goula ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:00:12 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fw: PC800... The solution is salt, or any number of different de-icers sold at many hardware and home improvement stores. Salt for water softening systems will also work fine. As far as the snowplow putting everything into your driveway, that happens everywhere it snows and they plow the streets. So go get some salt, or calcium chloride, or whatever, and cheer up. You are not the only one. :-) R. Fenwick Illinois And yes, I have snow too.... At 02:40 PM 02/04/2000 -0800, Doug Allis wrote: >Whoever wrote: >> >I HATE RAIN! >complaining about rain in the SF Bay area should try the last two and a half >weeks here in the DC suburbs and northern VA area... where it snows a bit, >then a bit more, then it snows about a foot, then ice, then fluries a bit >more. Each time it snows/ices the plow tries, but just can't quite clear it >all off my street. It puts what it does clear in my driveway. WOULD SOMEONE >PLEASE CHOP THE ALL THE ICE OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY !!!!!!?? > >There I feel much better... Despite it all I have missed only three days >motorcycling to work. :-) > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 01:04:41 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 01:05:45 +0100 Hi , I have now cleared the field a little in the search for a good bike on = Our summertrip inthe USA. I have made a photo album of the Outfits that is available for Us = today. http://arvidl.tripod.com/photoalbum/index.html I have gotten details on 3 bikes from a 80 to 81to an 83, all with = sidecars attached. Three different types of sidecars too !! Asking price ranges from $ 3000-4500.=20 I have not decided on taking the outfit back to Norway or resell it = before returning home. We can start the tour wherever the best bike is located and either = return home from the east or west coast. I will estimate the riding distance could be around 5 -8000 miles at the = max. If You have little to do this weekend, ( lots of moaning about ICE from = "over there"!!) ,have a look and find the one You would prefer and tell = Me why... Maybe I should buy a bike by majority of votes this time and not let My = own ,very well educated nose point the way to go ?? ;-) Still, I have My favorite( but will not tell You) Regards Arvid Stavanger Norway + 9.8 degrees C. moaning about=20 ICE from "over there"!!) ,have a look and find the one You would prefer = and tell=20 Me why...
 
Maybe I should buy a bike by majority of votes this = time and=20 not let My own ,very well educated nose point the way to go ?? = ;-)
 
Still, I have My favorite( but will not tell = You)
 
Regards
 
Arvid
Stavanger
Norway
+ 9.8 degrees C.
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:21:55 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. To: lovik@writeme.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) lovik@writeme.com writes: >Maybe I should buy a bike by majority of votes this time and not >let My own ,very well educated nose point the way to go ?? ;-) > >Still, I have My favorite( but will not tell You) > >Regards > >Arvid >Stavanger >Norway >+ 9.8 degrees C. Here's my vote, having had no experience with Goldwings or sidecars, but just looking at the pictures: I like the looks of the 82 the best, but I don't see a top for that sidecar. The 81 with the California sidecar has a nice top. If I was a passanger in a sidecar I'm not sure I'd like riding while it filled up with water in the rain. The Velorex sidecar looks too small for a long trip. I'm not sure how the storage area compares on each of these, but the California sidecar looks like it has the most. Do we win a visit from you this summer if we pick the winning motorcycle? Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Juan Antonio Goula" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Not another oil thread! AARRGGHHH! of "Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:46:05 +0700." <20000204224605.64822.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 18:26:16 -0600 "Juan Antonio Goula" writes: > this is just out of curiosity: The local Shucks Auto is selling > Mobil 1 Motorcycle oil (both 10W-40 and 20W-50) for $6.75 a quart. How does > that compare with other locations? thanks! $9.95 at AutoZone when the stuff first came out. Haven't bothered to look since. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:15:24 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug To: cluft@uscom.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/4/00 12:40:30 PM Central Standard Time, cluft@uscom.com writes: << Hi all, > My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. > Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in > about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this > maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully > insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. > 1996 PC ...Oh L.T The damage is done. You may be able to get a tap at an automotive store that you could run in the hole to clean up the threads. problem with doing that is you may not thread the tap in the old threads correctly and then cause more damage. You will also have dirt falling into the cylinder no matter what you do. The plug screwed in half way will limit the power from that cylinder and could possably blow out. I'd pull the head off and repair the threads. >> Be very sure that you have the correct plug for the PC. Maybe it is simply too long. If you have the correct plug, the tap approach is ok if the threads are not too beat-up. Simply taking out the old plug will not damage the threads, so if it is damaged, it is due to cross-threading the new plug in. You can run a tap through and then adapt a slender plastic tube to the end of a shop vac (can you say duct tape? oops, too much of the Red Green show) and insert it into the cylinder. That said, it is pretty tough to cross thread the plugs. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "Dave Steven" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: ** Pacific Coast Wanted ** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 03:42:45 -0600 Dave, www.traderonline.com currently has ~25 Pacific Coasts listed under their Cycle Trader section. Just search with Pacific Coast in the keyword field. They had a 98 listed in NY last week, but I don't see it listed now. There is a 98 with 2500 miles on it listed in Houston for $5400 OBO. I'm adopting a 98, for a small fee, from one of the list members on Monday. I plan on riding it back to Oklahoma City, OK from Tuscaloosa, AL. Should be a fun 725 mile day. Good luck. Brad Nicholson Oklahoma City, OK ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dave Steven To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: PC800: ** Pacific Coast Wanted ** > Sold mine a few years back and now regret it. > Any leads anywhere in US helpful, but close to NY the best. > I'll consider anything, but newer/lower mi.s preferred. > send details: year/mi./color/accessories fitted/ $ etc. > I'm an immediate buyer; cash in hand! > Thanks group. > Good to be back. > Dave > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:39:00 EST Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. To: lovik@writeme.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Arvid, I like the 82' owned by the elderly woman. It looks like it would be the most fun to tour with. That's due to the extra chrome and other goodies on it. It also has a C.B. radio, which you may enjoy while on your tour. No mention of miles on it, but as long as the timing belt is ok or has been changed at the proper mileage - go for this one! Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:27:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:27:52 EST Subject: PC800: CYCLE WORLD ARTICLE To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Hi Gang -- Scanned the 1998 article entitled "Have Trunk Will Travel" written by Wendy Black for Cycle World -- 2 color pictures. This is the article that labeled the PC800 as the Scooter on Steroids! Go to Http://members.aol.com/w7kjd/pc800.jpg Gordon Creed 96 PC800 Washington, DC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:12:03 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: "Arvid Løvik" , PC list Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. Arvid, I forwarded your letter onto a couple different GoldWing lists plus some personal friends. There are probably dozens if not hundreds who have experience with these sidecars and thousands with these bikes. I hope they can be of help. >From my experience, at least stick with the 1100's. They were a much better bike than the 1000's. The California sidecar is a good name with good support, too bad the other bike is better. I hope the other folks on the other lists can help you more. Thomas > Arvid Løvik wrote: > > Hi , > I have now cleared the field a little in the search for a good bike on > Our summertrip inthe USA. > I have made a photo album of the Outfits that is available for Us > today. > > http://arvidl.tripod.com/photoalbum/index.html > > I have gotten details on 3 bikes from a 80 to 81to an 83, all with > sidecars attached. > Three different types of sidecars too !! > Asking price ranges from $ 3000-4500. > I have not decided on taking the outfit back to Norway or resell it > before returning home. > We can start the tour wherever the best bike is located and either > return home from the east or west coast. > I will estimate the riding distance could be around 5 -8000 miles at > the max. > > If You have little to do this weekend, ( lots of moaning about ICE > from "over there"!!) ,have a look and find the one You would prefer > and tell Me why... > > Maybe I should buy a bike by majority of votes this time and not let > My own ,very well educated nose point the way to go ?? ;-) > > Still, I have My favorite( but will not tell You) > > Regards > > Arvid > Stavanger > Norway > + 9.8 degrees C. > -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:45:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:45:58 EST Subject: PC800: swap and sell sites To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Does anyone know of any sites that you can sell or find PC800 parts ? I have been checking around and this list is the only one I have found. Hope all are doing well, can not wait until spring, ride safe and often JIM T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 ( still no name) 40K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:31:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:15:26 -0500 > I am not much of a mechanic, but if the plug is not fully seated I > don't think I would be driving it. While back a friend had a car with > a similar problem and he was driving it. The plug shot out of it's > hole and put a big dent in his hood. Don't know what it would do to > plastic. > > Will Edwards rstar@aa.net I'd think it would make it through the plastic and maybe into a leg. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:31:24 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Thread damage on spark plug Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:23:05 -0500 > Put in the helicoil. Vacuum out the cylinder with a tiny computer type > vacuum cleaner. Do all this keeping your fingers crossed and gripping a very > wooden thing. If you are in doubt about your abilities, go to a qualified > technician. If he mashes it up, you have got someone to come back on. If you > mash it up, well, you learn something everyday. > Good luck either way. > Russ > Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. > '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" If he mashes it up, The head gets pulled. If you mash it up, The head gets pulled. But, It's worth a try. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FPGAWE03.H4S; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:41:02 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: swap and sell sites Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:36:48 +0100 The PCEurope site has some pages for that. http://www.cybercomm.nl/~pce Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Does anyone know of any sites that you can sell or find PC800 parts JIM T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:13:08 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: tire patch kit Howdy. I've carried a tubeless repair kit in my trunk for a few years now; I used to carry a cheap one plus a tiny bicycle pump. A couple of years ago I bought the BMW Emergency Repair Kit for tubeless motorcycle tires. The kit consists of: - a tool with a rasp-like shank and an eye like a giant needle with the side of the eye open - some funny-looking rubber rings in a blister pack - a small tube of glue - a short plastic hose with screw connectors at either end - three CO2 canisters. This all fits into a kit about the size of a cigarette pack that comes with your BMW, but us lucky non-Beemer owners can order the guts of the kit from the Beemer dealer (no I don't have the part number.) My Dad made me a nice kit out of heavy canvas, it sits in the bottom of my trunk. Today I got to use it. On my way back from a camping trip, changed lanes at 130km/h (85mi/h) and felt the bike way more wobbly under me than it shoulda been. Pulled over (no doubt incurring the wrath of the cars I had just passed. Rear tire mostly flat. Gyp-Roc (wallboard) screw all the way in, head flush with the tread. Oh yeah -- had visited a friend who had just built a new house, parked in his rock driveway. Followed instructions in the kit: - removed offending object - gooped up the tool with glue and reamed out the hole - pulled rubber ring into the eye of the tool - gooped way more glue onto the rubber thing and tool - shoved tool & ring in all the way without turning, pulled out - cut off rubber protruding from hole - screwed hose onto air stem - screwed one CO2 canister after the other onto the hose No hissing from hole. Elapsed time: 10 minutes. The tire wasn't up to pressure (the instructions said it wouldn't be) so got air at the next gas station, finished ride. The kit says, "400km max, 60km/h" . I ignored the latter, put another 10k on the tire. Conclusions: Well worth the 30$ or so I paid for it (it's a one-use-only kit.) I would recommend anyone get one; either you'll get to use it yourself or you'll be a big hero some time when you're out touring with friends. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:39:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:39:43 EST Subject: PC800: can of flat fix To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store. I saw one a few years ago and toss one into my PC's trunk. I have never had a flat yet, thank god. I change the tires every other year at the Americade with out fail, sometimes with less that 12 K on them. ( I once was at a tire failure accident on the road, was not a pretty sight) But my thought was to use this on a nail hole type flat, a blow out or rip is a trailer in job only. If I had a flat I would replace the tire, no matter how many miles were on it. So I know the flat fix screews up the tire, but it will get you home. Any ideas how this can compairs to the 40 dollars kits we have been reading about ??? Ride Safe and Often JIM T Beachwood,NJ 1996 PC800 40 K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: christopher.meier@us.pwcglobal.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) 5 Feb 2000 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) id 8525687C.00526208 ; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 09:59:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 10:00:31 -0500 Subject: PC800: Re: Fw: PC800... To: Doug Allis Cc: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Content-disposition: inline How about this ... would someone please chop all the pc800 posts off dc-cycles. Doug, it's great if you own a PC800 ( since I kinda like 'em), but please don't cross post all messages ... they are not all relevant to both lists. Thanks, --chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: From: Doug Allis Date: 02/04/2000 10:40:58 PM GMT Subject: Re: Fw: PC800... WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE CHOP THE ALL THE ICE OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY !!!!!!?? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:29:42 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Thread damage on spark plug cluft@uscom.com writes: > My spark plug thread damaged during replacing spark plug. > Currently, the plug is unable to screw fully. It only can go in > about 50%. I don't what to recorder. Anyone has experience on this > maybe can share me with his knowledge. Any problem with the plug not fully > insert ? I'm still move the bike at 65 mile/hr. I would pull the plug and make sure that the plug threads are really damaged. If they are, plugs are cheap; buy another (making sure that it is the correct size/heat range (e.g., NGK DPR7EA-9 or ND X22EPR-U9). However, if the plug is fine, you may mave cross-threaded it into the aluminum cylinder head. As others have suggested, you may be able to recut the threads and clean them up with a tap of the appropriate size (dip the tap in grease before trying to clean up the threads; the grease will catch most of the metal/carbon that is cut loose). This probably has a 50/50 chance of succeeding. If it fails, you're looking at a Helicoil job, which means pulling the engine and big bucks for labor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:13:49 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: can of flat fix Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:14:45 -0500 > Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store. I saw one a few > years ago and toss one into my PC's trunk. I have never had a flat yet, thank > So I know the flat fix screews up the tire, but it will get you home. Any > ideas how this can compairs to the 40 dollars kits we have been reading about >JIM T >Beachwood,NJ >1996 PC800 Three years ago comeing back from vintage motorcycle days, I had a flat and used it to get me off the road and to the hotel-about 5 miles. The next morning, it was flat again, so I pumped it up and it got me to the dealer. The tube was pinched. I was on a 1977 goldwing. I carry a plug kit (progressive) and a can of the stuff on the PC Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:34:34 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Thread damage on spark plug To: libssd@emory.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/5/00 8:30:30 AM Mountain Standard Time, libssd@emory.edu writes: << This probably has a 50/50 chance of succeeding. If it fails, you're looking at a Helicoil job, which means pulling the engine and big bucks for labor. >> You know, I just wonder. The PC has two spark plugs per cylinder. This is to insure that it has a good hot spark obviously. BUT, if the offending hole was sealed with some sort of tap-in plug, wouldn't the machine still operate just fine? Worst thing that I could imagine would be that it might like the next grade of fuel better then. Before I shelled out a g-note, I might just check into it. Worth a thought anyway. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: Fw: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:05:56 -0800 ----- Original Message -----=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker=20 To: Arvid L=F8vik=20 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 9:00 AM Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. Hi Arvid-- I am not a sidecarist or an expert on anything. I did seriously = consider buying such a setup that I found here last spring. It was an = '80 I think with an ORIGINAL Ural sidecar. The owner, too old to ride, was a purist and a talker. He had installed = an Earles fork on the bike and convinced me that was the safest setup. I am sure there are lots of sidecars without them, and lots of opinions = either way. That being said, per your request I offer my opinion: #3. Not for = looks, not for the amenities of the sidecar, but because it clearly has = a large fork brace installed. Lee Barker -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:12:53 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: can of flat fix ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com >Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store... If I >had a flat I would replace the tire, no matter how many miles were on it. >So I know the flat fix screews up the tire, but it will get you home. Any >ideas how this can compairs to the 40 dollars kits we have been reading about If all you want to use it for is to get home it's pretty good. I used one that way, even stopping every few miles to fill it up ('cause it was a large cut hole, not just a 'puncture'). This disadvantages of Fix a Flat type stuff is 1. Some are flammable, so read the label and be sure to tell your tire changer if you've put stuff in the tire, 2. Some of the stuff is corrosive to tire rims, so don't leave it in there long, and 3. It makes a real mess when you change the tire. Still, it's better than abandoning the bike on a dark road and walking home. Me, I carry the Stop 'n' Go tire repair kit, and their CO2 cartridge inflation kit. Haven't had to use it yet. -- Chris Norloff, Virginia recovering BMW owner '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:15:04 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Doug Allis , CC: , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fw: PC800... Well, personally I like to hear about at least one other snow commuter here in the Washington DC area ... on a PC800. Like Doug, I have missed only TWO days of commuting due to the snow, ice, etc. Gotta love those bikes. :-) Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: christopher.meier@us.pwcglobal.com Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 10:00:31 -0500 > > >How about this ... would someone please chop all the pc800 posts off dc-cycles. > >Doug, it's great if you own a PC800 ( since I kinda like 'em), but please don't >cross post all messages ... they are not all relevant to both lists. > >Thanks, >--chris > >To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu >cc: >From: Doug Allis >Date: 02/04/2000 10:40:58 PM GMT >Subject: Re: Fw: PC800... > > > > WOULD SOMEONE >PLEASE CHOP THE ALL THE ICE OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY !!!!!!?? > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which >it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any >review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action >in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the >intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Black Paint Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:01:04 -0800 Hi, all. What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which = as we all know is the best model). Beau Williams '94 PC 800 "Darth Beau" Ventura County, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:36:59 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "pc" Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" >What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which as we all know is the best model). The best touch-up paint? Well, my favorite color is red, so I recommend red touch up paint. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 22:49:10 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: How to reduce the seating height on the PC Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 22:50:13 +0100 Hi , For Your information: I have just got the latest magazine from the German PC 800 Club.=20 There is a girl that bought a PC for herself. Since Her height is only = 157 centimeters She had problems to get both her feets at the ground. They did the following: Lovered the front forks in the yokes , so that the top was a centimeter = below the fairing parts. Got hold of 4 centimeters shorter rear shocks at: Wilbergs Products 48527 Nordhorn,Germany PartNo:911-000-00 PriceDM 316,40 Shaved of 3 centimeters of the seat. They say that after the lowering, the sidestand is more suited to park = on, since the PC gets an more upright position. The main stand is = impossible to use because the power needed to pull the bike up now. Regards Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:13:41 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A Winter Ride After putting on some new ProGrips, I went for a ride down in here in Lower Alabama (Montgomery). The temperature was in the low 50s. I had a light jacket on and no gloves and I was fine for the time I was gone- 30 miles or so. I like the ProGrips. The stock grips were too hard and since I have put on the VistaCruise, the throttle seemed a little tight too. Now everything is fine and the grips are more comfortable- less vibration. Since I like to play golf and ride my motorcycle on the weekends, I have learned in the past to play golf the first day of the weekend and ride the PC on the second day. My golf suffers if I do it in the other way around- the vibration destroys what 'feel' I may have. Tomorrow promises to be 55 degrees F and sunny- a round of golf is planned. I will let you know if the new grips make a difference. Any comments? Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Ron Russell" , Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:46:45 -0800 If this works, Ron, congratulations. I would just be concerned that the ProGrips would bang around in the bottom of the golf bag, and maybe one might get pulled off its respective shaft as you were removing the club for that next all important attempt to reach the green. Lee Barker 95 being battery tenderized -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:26:53 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: swap and sell sites Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 23:02:53 -0800 For selling, you try the ebay auction site. Maybe one of the motorcycle news sites (rec.motorcycles) if you subscribe to a news groups. There are several, just do a search of motorcycle. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:29:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:29:47 EST Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I also enjoy golf. In fact, when I eventually purchase a trailer it will need to be large/long enough to fit the sticks in! Both pastimes in the same afternoon. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:45:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:45:13 EST Subject: PC800: Utopia driver's backrest To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Last year I wanted to get a Utopia driver's backrest prior to a 5 day trip. I tried to order in May, more than 6 weeks ahead. They could not get it to me in time due to the large number of orders that come in as the weather warms. (They make the backrests when ordered) So, I just ordered one a couple of days ago and should get it in 2 weeks or so. If anyone wants one, order now! Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:12:39 EST Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride To: ronrus@webtv.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/5/00 4:14:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, ronrus@webtv.net writes: << Since I like to play golf and ride my motorcycle on the weekends, I have learned in the past to play golf the first day of the weekend and ride the PC on the second day. My golf suffers if I do it in the other way around- the vibration destroys what 'feel' I may have. >> Hi Ron! I seems that you have reached the pinnacle in your life when you are forced to make a decision: do I ride or do I golf. Hoping that you are the sensible man that you appear to be in print, the answer is actually quite obvious; the act of chasing around a small dimpled white ball and hitting it with sticks with various shaped ends seems a bit barbaric to me. On the other hand, riding the most perfect motorcycle on even the most unperfect days makes, well, perfect since to me. You see Ron, nothing else that you can do makes your life quite as whole as riding a Pacific Coast motorcycle. You can have good days playing golf, and as I am sure that you know, you can have bad days playing golf. But unless you just got through playing "tag" with a Peterbuilt, you simply cannot have a bad day riding your PC. There are different degrees in good rides of course, but they are on a graduated scale. The lowest being a 9.5, and 10 being the highest rating. I just got back from a wonderful mid 50's temperature day ride, and expect that it will be some time yet for the grin to wear off my face. So Ron, do yourself a favor. Give up that silly notion that somehow golf even begins to compare with riding a PC800. All it will do is bring you grief. PC riding on the other hand will bring you nothing be joy. Listen to your soul, man! Your ride beckons you. A driver is not a golf club, but what your motorcycle awaits. Go to it. Go to it now. Your mind will be the better for it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:16:01 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:17:00 -0500 > >What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which as we all know >>is the best model). > The best touch-up paint? Well, my favorite color is red, so I recommend red touch up >paint. > > Chris Norloff Yes Yes, I agree. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous', red touchup paint, apple pie--that's live'n Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:25:34 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:26:32 -0500 >Now everything is fine and the grips are more comfortable- less > vibration. > Since I like to play golf and ride my motorcycle on the weekends, I > have learned in the past to play golf the first day of the weekend and > ride the PC on the second day. My golf suffers if I do it in the other > way around- the vibration destroys what 'feel' I may have. Tomorrow > promises to be 55 degrees F and sunny- a round of golf is planned. I > will let you know if the new grips make a difference. Any comments? > > Ron Do all your clubs fit in the trunk? Carl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:31:21 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Cheryl & Bill Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride types="text/plain,text/html"; At 08:12 PM 2/5/00 -0500, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: So Ron, do yourself a favor. Give up that silly notion that somehow golf even >begins to compare with riding a PC800. All it will do is bring you grief. PC >riding on the other hand will bring you nothing be joy. Listen to your soul, >man! Your ride beckons you. A driver is not a golf club, but what your >motorcycle awaits. Go to it. Go to it now. Your mind will be the better for >it. >Russ Vernon Does this mean we'll soon have the PC800 channel? 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------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:36:25 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800 mailing list" Subject: Re: PC800: Utopia driver's backrest Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:37:24 -0500 > Last year I wanted to get a Utopia driver's backrest prior to a 5 day trip. . > (They make the backrests when ordered) So, I just ordered one a couple of > days ago and should get it in 2 weeks or so. If anyone wants one, order now! > Alan in Houston 89' Does anyone know if the Utopia driver's backrest is mountable with the corbin seat? I have the adjustable pad on the corbin removed to give me more room to slide around and it's much more comfortable for me that way. Carl Luft PC800 'Protous' Wernersville, PA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:37:02 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Golf or PC800? Not Really a Choice I enjoy both. (Sometimes though it is hard to serve both mistresses.) Enjoyed the comments from the group. Glad I do not have to give up either one. Haven't figured out how to carry my clubs on the PC just yet. Years ago I WAS able to carry my clubs, books, extra clothes and a passenger (with clubs) on my CX500 back in the 80s. Rode it year round in Oklahoma. It was sight fully loaded going down the road. Those were the days. Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:49:05 EST Subject: PC800: Check out Welcome to Cycle-Mate online! To: ronrus@webtv.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: Welcome to Cycle-Mate online! Ron, Just get a CM2000 trailer. Tote the clubs anywhere! Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: can of flat fix Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:25:56 -0800 Years ago I used a can to fix another's rider's rear flat, and it work. Got him off the mountain pass. I tried using three cans of the Flat Fix stuff in a can when my Yamaha Royal Star got a rear flat last year and it didn't work. Either the hole was just too big, or maybe because I couldn't follow the directions which state to start driving immediately after installing it. First I had to remount the Saddle bag that had to be removed just to get to the tire stem. I now carry a regular plug type & co2 canisters, but have never used them. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: PC800: can of flat fix >Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store. I saw one a few >years ago and toss one into my PC's trunk. I have never had a flat yet, thank >god. I change the tires every other year at the Americade with out fail, > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Beau Williams" , "pc" Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:31:45 -0800 If you ask the more season & experience riders, it is common knowledge = that red is the best touch up paint to use.=20 Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: Beau Williams To: pc Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 11:01 AM Subject: PC800: Black Paint =20 =20 Hi, all. =20 What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 = (which as we all know is the best model). =20 Beau Williams '94 PC 800 "Darth Beau" Ventura County, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 08:58:20 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Golf & PC800? To: ronrus@webtv.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/5/00 9:37:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ronrus@webtv.net writes: << Haven't figured out how to carry my clubs on the PC just yet. >> When I lived in Ohio (was younger and less smart) and had just purchased my 89 I used to throw the the clubs over my shoulder and ride to a nearby golf course. I think my car was in the shop and I just had to play. But riding w/ clubs is possible although not very safe/smart. Rob (older/wiser) Cary NC 96 PC w/5.5 K 89 PC w/43 K (4 Sale) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:10:14 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint To: rstar@aa.net, gobeaugo@prodigy.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/5/00 10:40:50 PM Mountain Standard Time, rstar@aa.net writes: << What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which as we all know is the best model). >> Hi Beau. You are quite correct that you do indeed have the best color. Isn't it a bit irritating so many of the others are jealous? Go to the parts dept. of your local Chrysler or Dodge dealer. Get a 5 oz bottle of Mopar black touch up paint. Codes X13, PX8. It's number is 4342250. Much cheaper than the Honda stuff and works better for me. It has never needed more than 2 light applications and no one has ever seen where the scratch used to be. As far as the silver goes, I think that it is best to stick with Honda for that. Too hard to get a perfect match otherwise. Hope this helps. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: can of flat fix Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 06:29:32 PST Jim asked: >Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store. Jim, Thank the Road Gods but I have not had to use my can of Fix A Flat with my PC, yet. I have used this stuff to inflate a lot of car tires over the years and it has worked great for that. As one of the respondents noted, some of these products are propelled with butane and come with stickers to apply to the rim as a caution, so tell the guys at the shop to put out the cigarette's before he defates the tire !! They all will leave a bunch of residue inside the tire and on the inside of the rim which will have to cleaned off before the new tire is installed and the installer will usually complain mightly about. I carry a can of Fix A Flat and a tubless repair kit from Progressive and about 6 extra CO2's. I would use the inflate stuff first, a couple of CO2's if needed and try to find a bike tire shop ASAP. My luck, with the size of the rear tire, they won't have one anyway and I'll have to plug it. Beat's leaving the bike in the weeds or trying to put in a plug, in the dark, in the rain, 60 miles west of Hayseed, Nebraska !! Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: 94 PC Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 10:52:51 -0800 Last Thursday Feb 3, I was in Kentucky Oaks mall in Paducah, Ky. Saw a = black PC, (94) same as mine,,,just wondered it the owner is on this = list,,have not see another PC in this area.,=20 If the owner sees this or someone knows who it might be,,,,give me a = holler ... Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:05:30 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Black Paint "Beau Williams" writes: > What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 > (which as we all know is the best model). Sarcastic replies about red aside, I'm still looking. You would think that black is black, but the black that Honda uses on the PC makes every other paint I have found look gray. I'm also interested in a real answer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Ron Russell" , Subject: Re: PC800: Golf or PC800? Not Really a Choice Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 08:49:00 -0800 Years > ago I WAS able to carry my clubs, books, extra clothes and a passenger > (with clubs) on my CX500 back in the 80s. Flash back to the early sixties. As a starving college student I rode a step through Cushman. I could set my clubs on the floorboard and lash them loosely to the handlebars and head to any of the golf courses in Salt Lake City. Most were municipal; I think we paid $3.00 for nine and $5.00 for 18. I would like to have seen Ron on his CX500. Lee Barker 95, better'n golf -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 13:15:25 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Dan's tupperware party Hello all! As you may recall that my '96 and I I had a mishap involving an 18-yo and her dad's Ford Escort driving through a stopsign at the end of September. It took a month to get the assessment and insurance worked out, and then the insurance company wrote off the bike and wrote me a cheque for the difference between the bluebook value about 8300$Cdn and the 1100$ salvage value. All of the plastic on the front right of the bike was destroyed, the radiator and the windshield. I ordered the rad, bought a slightly used 'shield from a guy who was selling it on the net, and shopped for the parts. When the rad and shield came I bolted them on and have been driving the bike with smashed plastic since then, it's been too cold to work on plastic parts. The parts prices turned out to be almost the same from my local dealer, as they were from the cheapest parts in the US, Honda of Milpitas. See the bottom of this page: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ for the comparison and for contact info. Total parts, including rad and 'shield were 2000$. I got everything from my local dealer. I had last Friday off, and asked my mechanic if I could use a corner of his garage to work, and I pulled the broken front off the bike, mated all the new with old, put it all back on. Total time, including screwups, 4 hours. The bike looks great! the colour match is -fine- to my eye and to the rather fussy eye of my mechanic. Yah hoo! my bike's all healed! -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:40:23 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vivian West-Prapuolenis" To: Subject: PC800: re: A Winter ride Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:41:11 -0600 Importance: Normal Winter Ride? 55 degrees... I assume that's above "0"! I mean, I know winter is a season everywhere, but winter is WINTER here. (Juan, you'll have to use an even large typeface.) In my mind, 55 is already warm enough to ride wearing nothing but an open face helmet, a Kevlar loin cloth, and some sun-tan lotion with a high road resistance factor(RRF). Wish you luck in working out your dilemma. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ~ @ \ ~ _|=>/ ~ (_)\(_) Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Black Paint Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 13:31:56 -0800 Try this company. No endorsement implied since I've never used their products. http://www.color-rite.com/ Rick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Selden Deemer" To: "PC 800 List" Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: PC800: Re: Black Paint > "Beau Williams" writes: > > > What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 > > (which as we all know is the best model). > > Sarcastic replies about red aside, I'm still looking. You would think > that black is black, but the black that Honda uses on the PC makes > every other paint I have found look gray. I'm also interested in a > real answer. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:07:37 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: Daniel MacKay CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dan's tupperware party Daniel MacKay wrote: > Yah hoo! my bike's all healed! > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > Dan, I guess you'll have to change your sig card to "Homo MObilis"! --Ralph Couey Columbia, MO -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:36:46 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Cc: "John & Rhoda Strode" Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:37:50 +0100 Well , the descision has been taken!!=20 9 out of 10 in the group that replyed to Me had the same feeling I had. The Outfit We have now decided on is NO. 3 The 1982 Aspencade with the HitcHiker Sidecar !! Thanks to Listmemember John Strode who passed on My search for someone = to look at the bike to the SABMAG List server and to Charley Sutton on = that list that did voluntered to do the survey and have given me a = quick and favourable report on the outfit. This is the report I got from him tonite: Arvid,=20 Checked out the bike today. All of the fairings are there and the bike = is in very good condition.=20 Rubber looked good for your trip. Engine started after some coaxing. = (it had been winterized) but settled down to a smooth 1100rpm. There is = some minor crazing of the trunklid on the side car but=20 fibreglass, upholstery & paint looked excellent. Steeringhead seemed = nice & tight, brake rotors ok, couldn't see the pads.(dark shed). She = had the belts replaced in 1990 or 91 and has a complete service record = for the bike. =20 Only problem was that the headlight didn't work (once). After some = wiggling of some wires inside the tank near the fuse block and turning = the switch several times the lights worked. This could be due to the = fact that it hadn't been used since May 31 1999. The accessory = lightsm(there are 4 sets) did not work at all. She said that they haven't been used for several years as she used it = mostly during daylight hours. It may be something as simple as a fuse = ??? =20 All in all a very clean bike. In fact if you decide not to buy it I = will. =20 Charley Sutton West Chester PA 82 V45 Magna 'Pacemaker' 96 Magna 'Sunshine' It is so good to have friends all over the world !!! Thanks again everybody !! Regards Arvid 1x 89 PC 800 (WHITE of course) 1x 89 PC 800 & 93 Bushtec Turbo (1x 82 GW Asp. & HitcHiker ;-))
Thanks again everybody !!
 
Regards
Arvid
1x 89 PC 800 (WHITE of course)
1x 89 PC 800 & 93 Bushtec Turbo
(1x 82 GW Asp. & HitcHiker = ;-))
 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:51:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:51:04 EST Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 input on which GW/sidecar to buy .. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/6/00 5:38:18 PM Central Standard Time, lovik@writeme.com writes: << Well , the descision has been taken!! 9 out of 10 in the group that replyed to Me had the same feeling I had. The Outfit We have now decided on is NO. 3 >> Arvid, Glad to hear things worked out as you had hoped! Good luck on your tour of the USA. Do you intend to travel in Canada or Mexico? You must post your travel plans as well as a daily or semi-daily post to the list during your sojourn. Just like Ron Gant(?) , the man downunder during his worltour. This place is a regular travel-log! Alan in Houston 89' it's rodeo time! in the Astrodome -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2000 01:11:05 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 17:08:16 -0800 From: Bruce Pickett To: PC800 Subject: PC800: NWPCTA Will Edwards and I met at the Denny's Restaurant in Fife, Washington at 10 a.m. today for the first ride of the "Northwest Pacific Coast Touring Association". Well, actually, there is no such organization, there was just the two of us getting together for a ride. I have only one picture from the ride, and you can get to it from http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html#20000206 Will is from Marysville, which is north of Seattle, and I'm from Federal Way, which is south of Seattle. Since we were meeting on my turf in the south end, Will thought that I should be the leader of the pack (two is a pack, isn't it). Oh, boy! I've been riding for only a few months, and have done maybe 300 miles, all of it solo, and suddenly I'm out in front. I was hard pressed to think of some place original to go, but Will said he liked mountain roads, so I thought that I would take him on one of the excursions that I had done a few weeks ago through Wilkeson towards Mt. Rainier. Our trip was to be all on back roads. Five minutes after leaving Denny's, Will pulled up beside me at a stoplight and said, "Okay, you've already got me lost." to which I replied "We're just leaving Fife, and headed toward Puyallup." Normally at this spot, we would have had a commanding view of Mt. Rainier ahead of us to the east, but the weather today was a solid overcast which obscured the Mountain. The temperature was a mild 55°F, and there was no precipitation. Leaving Puyallup, I went through an intersection where the traffic light changed to red after I passed through and before Will got to it, so I pulled to the side of the road to wait for the light to change. Once Will started moving again, I started to move out onto the road, but I killed the engine. How embarrassing! I pulled off the road again to start the engine, but I couldn't get it into neutral. I kicked the gear selector up, and down, and up again, but the green light just wouldn't come on! I tried rocking the bike back and forth, trying to get the engine and transmission to turn a little. Finally after repeating all these steps 3 or 4 times, I finally got it into neutral and got the bike started. I'm sure that Will was back there just laughing his head off. Wending through the twisty valley roads past Orting, I was relieved to see that the sand that had plagued me on the road on my previous trip was gone. When we reached Wilkeson, there was no snow or ice such as that which made me decide to turn around last time, so we continued south on the road through Carbonado. I watched as my odometer turn 75,000. Gradually, the road started to get narrower, rougher, and more twisty. The speed limit dropped to 35 mph, and it was a good idea to not go over that. Shortly, we came to a long, one-lane bridge spanning a chasm. I could not see the bottom because of the thick forest below, but I presume that the Carbon River was down there taking the runoff from the Carbon Glacier on Mt. Rainier. A couple miles past the bridge, I decided to pull off into a wide spot at a "Y" in the road. The road goes for about another 10 miles into Mt. Rainier National Park, however, we were starting to get lots of sand and gravel on the pavement. Will expressed his pleasure with where we had ridden so far, and wanted to know where we were so that he could come back in the summer, and I pulled out a map to show him. We spent a half hour standing there, talking about bikes and stuff, then we turned around and headed back. We left the hills, and the roads straightened out. We were back in the low-lands, and I noted the dairy farms we were passing by their aroma. Through Buckley and Enumclaw, and on to Auburn. We were getting close to Federal Way and Interstate-5 where Will and I would split up. I wanted to stay off of the busy highways, so we diverted south a little bit to the town of Pacific (appropriate, eh!). With the overcast, we hadn't really had much to take pictures of on the trip, but we decided that we had to have at least some pictures to memorialize this ride, so Will and I took turns taking pictures of each other along the road in Pacific. Shortly, after we climbed up out of the valley on Jovita Road, I turned off in Federal Way, and Will kept going to I-5. Bruce Pickett Federal WAy, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:31:11 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "grizzly1" To: "PC800 Maillist" Subject: PC800: Fixing Fractured Tupperware Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:43:31 -0800 Hi all - I know I have seen some discussions before on fixing small cracks in the Tupperware, but didn't see a majority opinion. A bicycle fell against my PC today and one of the panels on the side has a few cracks in it. Nothing broken out/off, just cracks. I can sort of ignore them or try and fix them. I am concerned that the fix may be worse than the problem. How have you folks gone about it?? BTW, the weather around the SF Bay is getting beautiful - trees in bloom and so are the bikes! Thanks Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: NWPCTA Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:28:09 -0800 Thank you for a very enjoyable ride, Bruce. All of you other NW PC'ers missed a good ride. I'm jealous of that digital camera of yours, I've got to wait until I finish the roll of film, get it scanned and uploaded. Might be awhile. I didn't go directly home, too much daylight left. I continued east on 18, crossed I-90 and took a break at Snoqualmie Falls before taking HWY 203 back to Monroe and eventually home. And I learned two new things today, Bruce showed me how to more easily enter phone numbers & names into my cellular phone, but more important how maybe not to keep loosing bolts & washers into the deep unknown of the PC's plastic when removing panels. I had used an magnet wand to try and find those lost parts, Bruce suggested trying to hold the magnet next to the bolt as it is being removed to catch it if it drops. Thank you very much. About this "Northwest Pacific Coast Touring Association," I think it's a great ideal. Bruce can be president, I'll be treasurer. Please send money, cash only. Checks leave a paper trail and we certainly don't want that. Anyway, it was a nice way to end a weekend. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:42:12 -0500 (EST) From: cj russell To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC ------Original Message------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cj russell To: Ron Russell Sent: February 7, 2000 1:38:36 PM GMT Subject: Golf or PC I too love golf and riding. I have been working on an idea for a bag carrier that would utilize the frame of a hand pull cart without the wheels. At the bottom of the rack would be welded a shaft designed to enter a reciever style trailer hitch setup. I live in Michigan and there are many fantastic courses within 1-2 hours drive throughout northern Michigan. I would love to spend that time riding, golf for a while, then finish the day with a relaxing ride home - just about the perfect day! Any comments on this idea? Is it marketable? Possible? What about liability issues? CJ Russell 89 PC "Therapy" ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:47:54 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cjrussell@mail.com writes: >I too love golf and riding. I have been working on an idea for a >bag carrier >that would utilize the frame of a hand pull cart without the >wheels. At the >bottom of the rack would be welded a shaft designed to enter a >reciever >style trailer hitch setup. I live in Michigan and there are many >fantastic >courses within 1-2 hours drive throughout northern Michigan. I >would love to >spend that time riding, golf for a while, then finish the day with >a >relaxing ride home - just about the perfect day! Any comments on >this idea? >Is it marketable? Possible? What about liability issues? > >CJ Russell >89 PC "Therapy" OH NO! It's not bad enough for people already think we ride a "scooter on steroids", but now everyone who sees CJ's set up will think we ride a golf cart on steroids. Of course if we can convince the insurance companies of that, then we might get lower rates:-) How about just getting a trailer hitch and a trailer. I know at least one list member who bought a trailer and used his golf bag as the measure of its proper size. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: can of flat fix Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 07:03:52 PST >Has anyone use a can of "FLAT FIX" you buy in the auto store. > Yes. I've used "Fix a Flat" on my old 1985 650 Nighthawk several years ago. It worked well on the nail my rear tire found on the I-395/14th St bridge here in Washington DC. It was night. There was no safe place to go or pull off. I was on my way in less than 10 minutes. I keep a can of the stuff in the trunk at all times. BUT: It leaves lots of gook in the tire AND RIM. Get the tire repaired/replaced ASAP because the stuff is supposedly not good for the rim. You may pay extra to get the gook out, depending on how regular a customer you are where you get the permanent fix. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:12:02 -0500 To: cj russell From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:42 AM -0500 2/7/00, cj russell wrote: > I have been working on an idea for a bag carrier >that would utilize the frame of a hand pull cart without the wheels. At the >bottom of the rack would be welded a shaft designed to enter a reciever >style trailer hitch setup. > Any comments on this idea? I have used both a bicycle rack and a ski rack that attached to the square hitch receiver on my last car. Both worked very well. The racks tend to wobble a bit from side to side if the rack doesn't fit tightly into the receiver, but I never had any problems with stability. I drove from Ottawa, Canada to San Francisco, CA with the bike rack and one bike. I often drove over 80 mph, and occasionally exceeded 100 mph. The bike and rack remained intact, and I had no problems with its integrity. One small issue that I have since fixed was that the rack was a bit low for my bike. It wouldn't drag on the ground, not even on speed bumps and stuff, but it did put the front tire of my bike about 8 inches from my exhaust, and 12 hour days at 80 mph and up ended up melting the tire off the wheel, and the rims were exposed to salt and sand from the wheels, so they got a bit roughed up. The ski rack would be closer in concept to your 'golf rack'. The skis were basically standing up perpendicular to the road. I think you could probably do something like this for a bike. The trick is going to be finding a receiver style hitch for the PC800. Every motorcycle hitch I have seen has a ball mount that was not removable, or the Bushtec style mount. As far as weight goes, keep in mind that a 40 pound golf bag mounted behind the rear wheel may feel like a 180 pound person sitting on the rear seat. I would certainly increase the amount of pre-load on the rear shock. > >Is it marketable? Possible? What about liability issues? > Is it marketable? Well, probably to a very small market..... Is it possible? Sure, anything is possible, if cost is no object. Liability? Well.... this is a world of 1-800-SUE-HIS-ASS, so anything you do nowadays can get you sued.... Good luck.... and if you need someone to beta-test the product in a foreign market, I golf from time to time! Ride safe.. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:25:04 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "PC800 Maillist" , "grizzly1" Subject: Re: PC800: Fixing Fractured Tupperware ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "grizzly1" \>I know I have seen some discussions before on fixing small cracks in the >Tupperware, but didn't see a majority opinion. A bicycle fell against my PC >today and one of the panels on the side has a few cracks in it. Nothing >broken out/off, just cracks. > >I can sort of ignore them or try and fix them. I am concerned that the fix >may be worse than the problem. > >How have you folks gone about it?? Well, I'd remove the panels and apply fiberglass cloth & CA (cyanoacrylate, like SuperGlue) glue. It will be invisible from the outside, and will strengthen the plastic. The simple way is to get Three Bond's glue kit as it has all the pieces you need. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:32:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:32:48 EST Subject: Re: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/7/00 9:13:02 AM Central Standard Time, fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: << The trick is going to be finding a receiver style hitch for the PC800. >> I recently sent an e-mail to www.hitchdoc.com to ask if they had a photo of their hitch on a PC. They replied no, but said their hitch is a receiver type hitch and looks very much like the goldwing hitch on their web page. Price is a little over $200 plus $14 shipping. They have a few in stock now. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:18:01 -0800 From: "Irene Frost" X-Sent-Mail: on Subject: Re: PC800: part numbers X-Sender-Ip: 170.160.9.3 Content-Language: en I have not had this problem with my local dealer, Beaverton Honda. But then I have only gone in for estimates which they printed out for me. I stood by the counter and helped the guy look up parts and they were very open about it. Irene Frost Portland, Oregon '94 PC800 '85 Shadow -- On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:49:15 KC2ATQ wrote: >Has anyone ever had this problem ?? I wanted to check out a few internet >prices on PC800 body parts. I see that I need the Honda part numbers. I went >today to my local Honda dealer and asked him to look up a few parts, which he >did with no problem and gave me the prices. When I asked for the part number >he said he could not give that info out. HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:57:55 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Going Golfing with the PC Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:58:42 +0100 Are You nuts !!????? Using a nice day,park the PC and go golfing ??? Are there a heatwave over there? Sunstroke ?? Lost judgement???=20 Really !! I was searching for something MC related on the net the other day ( what = else is new ??) and I really found a picture of a=20 ball hitch receiver taking on a golfbag . I have tried to find it later = without any luck. But there IS a picture of it on the net !! Receiver hitches for the PC, are so common that You can't search the net = for anything PC related without finding a hitch ad for the PC !!!;-) One of the finest ball recivers I have seen is made by: The Hitch Doc: http://3aweb.com/hitch/ and the one they have for the PC = 800 costs $ 215 The one and only hitch type is the heim joint type mad by Bushtec, there = is absolute no slack either way when trailering, but I don't think that = Bushtec EVER will make a Golfbag to fit their hithc. Thank God !!! BTW, do any of you by chance have a Bushtec Turbo 2 trailer in two-ton = Aspencade brown laying around?? I need one for the summer !!! Regards Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Fw: PC800: On the subject of tires.... Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:14:42 PST > It seems quite stable when the traction is > >constant (even on low traction gravel roads) but when there is a > >dramatic reduction in traction (like running over a sandy patch) the > >front end wants to wash out much more than either of my other bikes. I have to agree. When I wiped out the Stealth I hit a combo of mud/sand on a blind curve. The front end washed out so quickly that I had absolutely no time to react; a moment later I was sitting on my butt watching the Stealth sliding across the road into the ditch. I was leading a friend on a Hayabusa who was right behind me; he hit the same patch and recovered. My front tire was at the point of being replaced, but it still had good riding tread. Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:37:55 PST >My golf suffers if I do it in the other way around- the vibration >destroys >what 'feel' I may have. I just read the responses to the original message--and was quite surprised that all of them related to the golfing, but nary a response to the "vibration". I guess I'm mystified, because one of the reasons why I've enjoyed the Stealth these many years and miles is due to its almost total lack of "vibration". Am I in the singular here? Jeez, I feel so lucky!!! :-) Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:42:04 PST >What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which as we all know is the best model). Okay you guys, enough of that! That is the sneakiest, most underhanded way of sneaking into the "best color" thread that I've ever seen! All of you that responded are sentenced to re-painting your bikes black... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Black Paint Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:42:34 PST >What's the best touch-up paint for the PC800? I have a black 94 (which as we all know is the best model). Okay you guys, enough of that! That is the sneakiest, most underhanded way of sneaking into the "best color" thread that I've ever seen! All of you that responded are sentenced to re-painting your bikes black... Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: CYCLE WORLD ARTICLE Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:56:23 PST >Scanned the 1998 article entitled "Have Trunk Will Travel" written >by >Wendy Black for Cycle World -- 2 color pictures. This is the same article that irritated the hell out of me--especially the comment "The PC's reason for being, then, is daily commuting and light touring". I wrote a rebuttal to Cycle World, but my letter wasn't published. One of the things that I noted in that letter was the relatively high number of people who had put waaay more than the AMA's average rider's mileage of 3,500 miles (1997 figure) and it wasn't due to "commuting"! Light touring indeed! Hmmmph! Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: A Winter Ride Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:34:24 -0800 Tim, I started to reply but then decided that if someone wanted to over load (my opinion)the rear of their MC with a golf bag and clubs it's ok by me. Now you might ask why I say over load? As Tim has so boldly (Star Treck expression) pointed out - the vibration, which will cause metal fatigue, which leads to things breaking, (or even a old sudden shift of the clubs in a turn/corner/parking lot) which leads to unmentionable mishaps. Of course not to start any contention the only sport I find worse then golf is baseball. Bad enough one person hitting a ball to chase it down just to hit it again, but nine out there throwing it back just so it can be hit again? Sport = two wheels + lots of corners + BIG GRIN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: A Winter Ride Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:21:15 AKST Tim Macy wrote: >I just read the responses to the original message--and was quite surprised >that all of them related to the golfing, but nary a response to the >"vibration". Like me, most listers must have thought he was refering to another bike, because we all know the PC does not vibrate. Right? :-) Seriously, if the PC seems to be vibrating, here are some things to check: Fresh plugs, fresh air filter, synch the carbs, make sure that the bar-end weights are tight. If it is still too much, maybe one or more of the motor mounts could be loose, though I don't recall ever hearing this happen to a PC. If everything checks out, try foam or gel grips/grip covers. I did notice that Ron mentioned wearing _no_ gloves. So I'll become a "Safety-Nazi-for-a-day" and say "shame, shame". A rider should always wear gloves. Even a parking lot get-off can mess up your hands enough so that you won't be riding _or_ golfing for a while. In your case this might be all you need, protection from the elements and yes, they will dampen vibration a bit, depending on the glove. Maybe a pair of gel palm gloves in combination with the grips (or grip covers). Good luck on your search. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:33:20 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: bpickett@homemail.com CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: NWPCTA Bruce: Sounds like fun: I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! Tony Bruce Pickett wrote: > > Will Edwards and I met at the Denny's Restaurant in Fife, Washington at > 10 a.m. today for the first ride of the "Northwest Pacific Coast Touring > Association". Well, actually, there is no such organization, there was > just the two of us getting together for a ride. I have only one picture > from the ride, and you can get to it from > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html#20000206 > > Will is from Marysville, which is north of Seattle, and I'm from Federal > Way, which is south of Seattle. Since we were meeting on my turf in the > south end, Will thought that I should be the leader of the pack (two is > a pack, isn't it). Oh, boy! I've been riding for only a few months, and > have done maybe 300 miles, all of it solo, and suddenly I'm out in > front. > > I was hard pressed to think of some place original to go, but Will said > he liked mountain roads, so I thought that I would take him on one of > the excursions that I had done a few weeks ago through Wilkeson towards > Mt. Rainier. Our trip was to be all on back roads. Five minutes after > leaving Denny's, Will pulled up beside me at a stoplight and said, > "Okay, you've already got me lost." to which I replied "We're just > leaving Fife, and headed toward Puyallup." Normally at this spot, we > would have had a commanding view of Mt. Rainier ahead of us to the east, > but the weather today was a solid overcast which obscured the Mountain. > The temperature was a mild 55°F, and there was no precipitation. > > Leaving Puyallup, I went through an intersection where the traffic light > changed to red after I passed through and before Will got to it, so I > pulled to the side of the road to wait for the light to change. Once > Will started moving again, I started to move out onto the road, but I > killed the engine. How embarrassing! I pulled off the road again to > start the engine, but I couldn't get it into neutral. I kicked the gear > selector up, and down, and up again, but the green light just wouldn't > come on! I tried rocking the bike back and forth, trying to get the > engine and transmission to turn a little. Finally after repeating all > these steps 3 or 4 times, I finally got it into neutral and got the bike > started. I'm sure that Will was back there just laughing his head off. > > Wending through the twisty valley roads past Orting, I was relieved to > see that the sand that had plagued me on the road on my previous trip > was gone. When we reached Wilkeson, there was no snow or ice such as > that which made me decide to turn around last time, so we > continued south on the road through Carbonado. I watched as my odometer > turn 75,000. Gradually, the road started to get narrower, rougher, and > more twisty. The speed limit dropped to 35 mph, and it was a good idea > to not go over that. Shortly, we came to a long, one-lane bridge > spanning a chasm. I could not see the bottom because of the thick forest > below, but I presume that the Carbon River was down there taking the > runoff from the Carbon Glacier on Mt. Rainier. > > A couple miles past the bridge, I decided to pull off into a wide spot > at a "Y" in the road. The road goes for about another 10 miles into Mt. > Rainier National Park, however, we were starting to get lots of sand and > gravel on the pavement. Will expressed his pleasure with where we had > ridden so far, and wanted to know where we were so that he could come > back in the summer, and I pulled out a map to show him. We spent a half > hour standing there, talking about bikes and stuff, then we turned > around and headed back. > > We left the hills, and the roads straightened out. We were back in the > low-lands, and I noted the dairy farms we were passing by their aroma. > Through Buckley and Enumclaw, and on to Auburn. We were getting close to > Federal Way and Interstate-5 where Will and I would > split up. I wanted to stay off of the busy highways, so we diverted > south a little bit to the town of Pacific (appropriate, eh!). With the > overcast, we hadn't really had much to take pictures of on the trip, but > we decided that we had to have at least some pictures to memorialize > this ride, so Will and I took turns taking pictures of each other along > the road in Pacific. Shortly, after we climbed up out of the valley on > Jovita Road, I turned off in Federal Way, and Will kept going to I-5. > > Bruce Pickett > Federal WAy, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:47:29 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Vibration (and golf) My comments about vibration from riding a motorcycle has to do with the difficulty of doing something fairly sensitive afterwards, like playing golf. (The short shots around the green require a lot of sensitivity and feel to do them well.) I have felt the same lack of sensitivity after driving a car for a long period of time and then trying to play golf when I arrive. As far as motorcycles go, the PC is very smooth but there is still some vibration, of course. Certainly it is not as bad as the Harley rider I saw once who had a terrible time drinking a cup of coffee after a long ride. His hand was shaking all over the place. I hope he was not scheduled for surgery any time soon! Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Vibration (and logging) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:23:33 AKST Ron wrote: >I have felt the same lack of sensitivity after driving a car for a >long period of time and then trying to play golf when I arrive. As far as >motorcycles go, the PC is very smooth but there is still some >vibration, of course. Hmmm.... here's a thought: Maybe you are gripping the wheel/handlebar too tight? Do you tense up easily? Worth a look. This happens to me when I use an axe, or a shovel for too long. I lose most of my fine motor control in my hands for 1/2 an hour or so. Of course, you don't want to relax your grip when you are swinging away with the axe. Your buddies stop coming along for brush clearing parties :-) >Certainly it is not as bad as the Harley rider I saw once who had a >terrible time drinking a cup of coffee after a long ride. His hand was >shaking all over the place. Heh heh... they do that here, too.... Usually because they refuse to wear a helmet and/or use a windshield, so they freeze their n**s off :-) Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Black Paint Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:40:25 PST >From: Selden Deemer I'm also interested in a real answer. Selden, I have a tube of Dupli-Color, SF 100, that has been a good match on my 95. Had a boot scuff on the top edge of the left hand trunk bulge. The paint is pretty thick and I had to thin it slightly with mineral spirits and do two thin coats but it worked great. Also, invest in a very expensive sable hair brush from the local art supply store, way better than the stiff brush that comes in these bottles. Make sure there are no air currents of any kind in your work area and sweep or vaccuum the area to remove dust. Use a small amount of automotive dewaxer to clean the area you need to patch. Worked for me. Des ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2000 03:02:22 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:59:32 -0800 From: Bruce Pickett To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Tony, I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is in neutral. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html Tony Miller wrote: > > Bruce: > > Sounds like fun: > > I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral > to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the > clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! > > Tony -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListserve" Subject: Fw: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:50:55 -0800 Both ours, the 96 and 89, will start in gear with the side stand up and clutch held in. Is it possible your kill switch at the side stand is not set right? The center stand shouldn't effect it. >Tony, >I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and >tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission >in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand >retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn >over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is >in neutral. > >Bruce Pickett >Federal Way, WA >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" >http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > >Tony Miller wrote: >> >> Bruce: >> >> Sounds like fun: >> >> I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral >> to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the >> clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! >> >> Tony >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:39:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:39:03 EST Subject: PC800: Neon To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu So... I was watching the original "Back to the Future" the other day... (The movie holds up well; good, clean, mindless fun.) And Doc Brown's trick Delorean gave me an idea... Neon lighting for the PC... There are a bunch of web sites offering vehicle neon. One of them-http://www.boogeylights.com- even has a kit to fit the PC. Lights for the grille, the rotor cover, the vent panels, the trunk and under the rider. $600 odd dollars, per the quote they sent me... Anyone else got this sort of thing installed? If done wrong, it might loo kind of bad, but these folks have some cool pics on their site.. I tend to think it would be nifty. Opinions? Ken 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Bruce Pickett" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:42:50 -0800 Bruce, At last something I have enough experience to comment on. Given your qualifications (below) my '90 gorgeous deep red PC starts just fine in gear. Rick Deep Red, Deep Red, yes, yes, yes, surely the best! Deep Red, Deep Red...! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bruce Pickett" To: "PC800" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:59 PM Subject: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? > Tony, > I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and > tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission > in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand > retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn > over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is > in neutral. > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > Tony Miller wrote: > > > > Bruce: > > > > Sounds like fun: > > > > I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral > > to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the > > clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! > > > > Tony > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PCListserve Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 22:03:51 -0800 Well, I don't know if the sidestand switch is okay or not. I have accidently extended the sidestand while in gear and that has killed the engine, so that part seems to work. However, with the sidestand fully retracted and the clutch lever pulled in, if the bike is in neutral, the starter will turn over fine, but if it is in gear there isn't any reaction at all when I push the starter switch. This has me curious. Is this a fluke? Is there something wrong somewhere? Perhaps there was a modification done to the bike? Is this something that affects other, but not all 89s? For what its worth, the "sequential product number" shows that this bike was #2476 off the assembly line. > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > ---------- > From: John & Rhoda Strode[SMTP:strode@pioneer-net.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:50 PM > To: PCListserve > Subject: Fw: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? > > Both ours, the 96 and 89, will start in gear with the side stand up and > clutch held in. Is it possible your kill switch at the side stand is not > set right? The center stand shouldn't effect it. > > > >Tony, > >I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and > >tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission > >in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand > >retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn > >over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is > >in neutral. > > > >Bruce Pickett > >Federal Way, WA > >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > >http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > >Tony Miller wrote: > >> > >> Bruce: > >> > >> Sounds like fun: > >> > >> I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral > >> to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the > >> clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! > >> > >> Tony > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 01:10:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 01:10:20 EST Subject: Re: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I use my PC to get to the golf course all the time. I have a golf bag that has a snap on rain cover. I put that on, then I bungee the bag across the passenger seat. I've been doing this on the PC and other bikes for 15 plus years and never had a problem...except the time I forgot to close the pocket with the extra golf balls inside. It was a bit hairy behind me on the freeway that afternoon. ;) Jeff Hamilton -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Feb 2000 09:13:08 -0600 (CST) id x.a8.10820d5 (3934) for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:11:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:11:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: PC800: headlight bulbs To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone changed the bulb to one of the brighter versions? I see there are several that are the same 60/55 watt but claim to be much brighter. Do they make a significant difference? Thanks Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Feb 2000 09:16:49 -0600 (CST) id x.d0.1d281d7 (3934) for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:15:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:15:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: PC800: electrical charging? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu When I look at the owner's manual, on page 98, the generator is said to put out .34kw at 5000rpm. I know little about all this. Does this mean that 340 watts can be drawn while riding at 5000 rpm? It then goes on to describe the draw by the bulbs onboard. What does it mean by CP? thanks Dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Feb 2000 07:12:07 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:11:16 -0500 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? To: PC800 , Bruce Pickett Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com My '90 will start in gear, with the clutch pulled in. It sounds to me like your clutch switch is not working or has bad connections. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bruce Pickett Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:59:32 -0800 >Tony, >I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and >tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission >in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand >retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn >over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is >in neutral. > >Bruce Pickett >Federal Way, WA >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" >http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > >Tony Miller wrote: >> >> Bruce: >> >> Sounds like fun: >> >> I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral >> to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the >> clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! >> >> Tony >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Feb 2000 07:14:33 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:13:46 -0500 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Neon To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, KGray96057@aol.com Reply-to: cnorloff@norloff.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Neon lighting for the PC You might want to check your state laws (if you want to use the neon on the road). Some states, like Virginia, do not allow neon. -- Chris Norloff, Virginia recovering BMW owner '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Feb 2000 01:31:45 -0600 (CST) 07 Feb 2000 23:30:45 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jesus Soriano Subject: PC800: Thank you all! To: PC800 Three weeks ago I paid $270 to have my new fog lights and battery monitor (from STA) installed at the not-so-local motorcycle dealer (4.5 hrs. @ $60/hr), just to have all lights and electrical systems fail in the way home in the middle of nowhere at 10.00 pm at night. Next day the shop sent a tow truck that took the bike for the 40 miles trip back to the shop. When they called later they said that the problem was a loose connector and that they have taken care of it. I drove the bike home from the shop on Friday and Monday morning, on my way to work, the same thing happened again. The shop sent the tow truck again and it eventually was discovered that "in the rush to get the bike ready" the first time, the battery connector was not properly bolted, so the cable was just loose, making contact just by the tension of the wire ...... When I got my new CB radio from Chatterbox and I thought about having to pay $120 (2 hrs. @ $60) just to have the power connected to the battery, I figured that I could do at least a comparable lousy job myself, so I turned to the list (that I have been reading for a while) and using the "10 easy steps to get to the battery" from Emile and a few other pointers from the archives, I was able to host my first tupperware party and do everything in less than 1 hr. Now I have the power connector seating neatly inside the right pocket waiting until I figure how and where to clamp the antenna and the remote control. By the way, I'm happy to report that (as far as I can tell) I didn't loose any of the little green men that make the motorcycle work, and she rides as beautifully as ever. So not only did I do a better job installing the cables that the shop did, but now I have $120 that I can invest in a new toy :) (helmet?, tank bag?). And even more important: now I know how to get to the battery if the need ever arises ...... I have been riding (evidently not wrenching) for over 30 years and I will not have dare to do this without all the information I got from the list. I just wanted to thank you all for the help. Jesus Soriano '95 PC800 "Rachel" 38,000 '79 CX500 "Josephine" 120,000 (dormant) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 11:59:11 -0500 To: From: Cheryl & Bill Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? ing.com> types="text/plain,text/html"; At 10:03 PM 2/7/00 -0800, Pickett, Bruce D wrote: > >This has me curious. Is this a fluke? Is there something wrong somewhere? Perhaps there was a modification done to the bike? Is this something that affects other, but not all 89s? For what its worth, the "sequential product number" shows that this bike was #2476 off the assembly line. > FWIW: My 89 (#3306) Starts in gear with the clutch pulled in and the kickstand up. Bill Johnson 89PC800 West Palm Beach, FL ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson | | Personalized photo gifts! | | www.touchtheheart.com | | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | | 561-622-3329 | ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson          |
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------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:04:39 -0800 Blue is the only PC I have ever ridden, and my first bike in a quarter century. I assumed (yes, I know what it means to ASSUME*) that it was standard for it to need to be in neutral to be started. But it looks like mine is atypical. So where do I look for the clutch switch? Is it on the lever, or in the transmission somewhere? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me *when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME > ---------- > From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@norloff.com] > Reply To: cnorloff@norloff.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 5:11 AM > To: PC800; Bruce Pickett > Subject: Re: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? > > My '90 will start in gear, with the clutch pulled in. It sounds to me like your clutch switch is not working or has bad connections. > > Chris Norloff > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Bruce Pickett > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:59:32 -0800 > > >Tony, > >I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and > >tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission > >in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand > >retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn > >over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is > >in neutral. > > > >Bruce Pickett > >Federal Way, WA > >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > >http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > >Tony Miller wrote: > >> > >> Bruce: > >> > >> Sounds like fun: > >> > >> I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral > >> to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the > >> clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! > >> > >> Tony > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:16:36 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: electrical charging? To: Ridr44@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Ridr44@aol.com writes: >When I look at the owner's manual, on page 98, the generator is >said to put >out .34kw at 5000rpm. I know little about all this. Does this >mean that 340 >watts can be drawn while riding at 5000 rpm? >It then goes on to describe the draw by the bulbs onboard. What >does it mean >by CP? thanks Dan >-- Yes you are correct about the 340 W at 5,000 rpms. I think it was Jim Randall who pointed this out a few months back. CP is candle power, but how that translates into other measures of electrical energy I don't now. I'm sure an Internet search would yield the math needed to make the proper calculations. > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "PCListserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:26:36 -0000 Ah Ha. The interlock on the clutch lever is stopping the starter turning. Normal cause is the switch being disconnected at the handlebar lever. It is just like the front brake light switch, the connector has probably fallen off, or is all corroded, or you have a broken wire. Cheers Russ big.russ@tesco.net Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. PASSED part 1 '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Pickett, Bruce D To: PCListserve Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:03 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? > Well, I don't know if the sidestand switch is okay or not. I have accidently extended the sidestand while in gear and that has killed the engine, so that part seems to work. However, with the sidestand fully retracted and the clutch lever pulled in, if the bike is in neutral, the starter will turn over fine, but if it is in gear there isn't any reaction at all when I push the starter switch. > > This has me curious. Is this a fluke? Is there something wrong somewhere? Perhaps there was a modification done to the bike? Is this something that affects other, but not all 89s? For what its worth, the "sequential product number" shows that this bike was #2476 off the assembly line. > > > > Bruce Pickett > > Federal Way, WA > > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > > ---------- > > From: John & Rhoda Strode[SMTP:strode@pioneer-net.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:50 PM > > To: PCListserve > > Subject: Fw: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? > > > > Both ours, the 96 and 89, will start in gear with the side stand up and > > clutch held in. Is it possible your kill switch at the side stand is not > > set right? The center stand shouldn't effect it. > > > > > > >Tony, > > >I didn't think that was possible, so I just went out to the garage and > > >tried what you suggested with Blue to make sure. With the transmission > > >in first (or any other gear), and the sidestand and centerstand > > >retracted, and the clutch lever pulled in, the starter will not turn > > >over. On my bike, the starter will not engage unless the transmission is > > >in neutral. > > > > > >Bruce Pickett > > >Federal Way, WA > > >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > > >http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > > > > > >Tony Miller wrote: > > >> > > >> Bruce: > > >> > > >> Sounds like fun: > > >> > > >> I'm just curious why you made such a fuss about getting it into neutral > > >> to restart. Why not just shift down to first and start it with the > > >> clutch pulled in? Works fine, as long as the kickstand is up! > > >> > > >> Tony > > >-- > > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Subject: PC800: sequential product number Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:40:10 -0000 Ok, so who has the oldest '89 (and therefore oldest of all)? Bruce has 2476 Bill has 3306 and I have........ 1113, so mines the oldest so far, unless of course you know different............. Russ big.russ@tesco.net Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. PASSED Pt 1. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:21:58 -0500 To: "Russ Goff" From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 05:40 PM 2/8/00 -0000, you wrote: >Ok, so who has the oldest '89 (and therefore oldest of all)? .....I forgot....how do we check this out????? Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 > Cheers!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:25:15 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: headlight bulbs Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:27:13 -0600 I have the Xenon 60/55 in mine and it not much brighter if any. It appears to be slightly whiter light but not really brighter. Many on the list have gone to higher wattage bulbs with no ill effect. The most important part of getting the most for my watts has been to aim the headlight correctly. I have only worked on 2 PC's headlights and both were aimed miles too high. I live at the end of a dead end street, so one night I parked the bike in the middle of the street with the light aimed at the vacant house at the end of the road. On low beam, the light lit the house and roof up nicely but the road and yard was dark. On high beam, only the top half of the roof and the trees behind the house were lit. I now have it adjusted down so that the low beam stops at the base of the house and the high beam starts there and goes on up. Much better on the road. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:11 AM Subject: PC800: headlight bulbs > Has anyone changed the bulb to one of the brighter versions? I see there are > several that are the same 60/55 watt but claim to be much brighter. Do they > make a significant difference? Thanks Dan > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:28:23 -0800 Underneath the front cowling, on the frame just above the radiator is the VIN. The last 6 digits are the serial number. It should also be on your title and registration. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" (#002476) http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me > ---------- > From: g.castle[SMTP:gcastle@neptune.on.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:21 AM > To: Russ Goff > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number > > At 05:40 PM 2/8/00 -0000, you wrote: > >Ok, so who has the oldest '89 (and therefore oldest of all)? > > > .....I forgot....how do we check this out????? > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:30:34 -0500 To: From: Cheryl & Bill Subject: PC800: Pulse Autocycle (not PC related) types="text/plain,text/html"; Hey, I know this isn't PC800 related, but I know this group has diverse interests and it *is* motorcycle related. Anybody ever hear or see a "Pulse Autocycle"? Emile, and you other pilots will probably feel at home in this contraption, it looks more like a plane than an auto or cycle. There are some pictures and description at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252481273 You only need $15000 US to start the bidding.:) Bill Johnson 89Pc800 West Palm Beach, FL ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson | | Personalized photo gifts! | | www.touchtheheart.com | | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | | 561-622-3329 | ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson          |
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------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:37:51 -0500 To: From: Cheryl & Bill Subject: Re: PC800: Pulse Autocycle (not PC related) types="text/plain,text/html"; At 01:30 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Cheryl & Bill wrote: > > Anybody ever hear or see a "Pulse Autocycle"? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252481273 This link might not work, and you'll get an error msg. If you do: Just put "Pulse Autocycle" in the search box Bill ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson | | Personalized photo gifts! | | www.touchtheheart.com | | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | | 561-622-3329 | ------------------------------ | Cheryl L. Johnson          |
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------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:40:55 -0500 To: "Pickett, Bruce D" From: "g.castle" Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 10:28 AM 2/8/00 -0800, you wrote: >Underneath the front cowling, on the frame just above the radiator is the VIN. The last 6 digits are the serial number. It should also be on your title and registration. > WELL!!! I guess Ive got the oldest now.... the last 6 digits are 000293 :) ...so...whats the winner getting??? Greg Castle Keswick,Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 Cheers!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sean perini To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: PC for sale in San Francisco Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:51:03 -0800 Hey all, After 6 years without, I am forced by my new employment to buy a cage. = Unfortunately finances and available parking stipulate just one vehicle = - so the PC (sadly) must go. At least now I will be able to shop at = Costco. I'll try and keep the cell phone off while I drive. The stats: '90 PC (candy apple red - unquestionably the best color); 8800 miles new hondaline backrest; 350 miles on recently purchased rear metzler = 880; clean shop manual and defender 2000 waterproof cover;oil, rear end = lube, oil filter, air filter, plugs, and coolant changed at 7500 miles remarkably clean - always garaged and covered, almost never in inclement = "California" weather small ripples in plastic dash from windshield related melting; scratches = on each saddlebag (from parking parallel to squid bikes with their high = passenger footrests) damaged mirror and crash bar covers from my driveway tip-over have been = replaced with all new parts $3700 (I'm going to advertise off list for a bit more) bike is in San Francisco, Ca I can email images to any interested party and will try to get some = jpg's posted on the www. Please reply off list. I think I'm going to miss the list most of all. Sean (cager) perini@itsa.ucsf.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:01:47 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" CC: "List-PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" >So where do I look for the clutch switch? Is it on the lever, or in the transmission somewhere? I haven't worked on the PC clutch switch myself, but all the others I've looked at are on the clutch lever housing, just in front of the handlebar. Look for two wires going to ordinary slip-on connectors. Best guess is a bad connection. Clean them up and see how things work. Let us know how it goes, Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:10:22 -0500 To: "g.castle" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Cc: "Pickett, Bruce D" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 1:40 PM -0500 2/8/00, g.castle wrote: > >WELL!!! I guess Ive got the oldest now.... >the last 6 digits are 000293 :) > >...so...whats the winner getting??? > >Greg Castle >Keswick,Ontario,Canada >89 PC800 >Cheers!! The winner gets to spend 1 week in beautiful downtown Keswick. (second prize is *two* weeks) ;-) he he he fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:30:51 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , Cheryl & Bill Subject: Re: PC800: Pulse Autocycle (not PC related) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cheryl & Bill >> Anybody ever hear or see a "Pulse Autocycle"? >> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252481273 > >This link might not work, and you'll get an error msg. >If you do: Just put "Pulse Autocycle" in the search box Neat, I found a couple links at http://www.netsv.com/autocycle/ http://www.bconnex.net/~vortex/pulse.htm But I wouldn't want to own one unless I could have a PC, too. :-) -- Chris Norloff, Virginia recovering BMW owner '92 Honda ST1100 ABS STOC #1290 '90 Honda Pacific Coast '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 15:16:40 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: headlight bulbs To: Ridr44@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Ridr44@aol.com writes: >Has anyone changed the bulb to one of the brighter versions? I >see there are >several that are the same 60/55 watt but claim to be much >brighter. Do they >make a significant difference? Thanks Dan I have used the 65/100W & the 90/130W (I think the low beam wattage is correct, I know the high beam is) and the 90/130W was wonderful. I had to drop back to the 100W high beam though for two reasons: 1. My Kriss headlight modulator was not as effective with the brighter bulb because of the time lage between bright and dim with the 130W bulb. 2. The extra 30W drawn by the 130W bulb was taxing on my battery with all my heated clothing plugged in and on, along with my dual 55W driving lights. The 100W seems to be a workable compromise between the max and min available for me. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:40:27 -0600 From: Steve DeLorey To: Cheryl & Bill CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pulse Autocycle (not PC related) Interesting vehicle. It looks like the driver would have a very limited field of vision with the canopy pulled forward. Steve DeLorey Cheryl & Bill wrote: > Hey, I know this isn't PC800 related, but I know this grouphas diverse > interests and it *is* motorcycle related.Anybody ever hear or see a > "Pulse Autocycle"?Emile, and you other pilots will probably feel at > home inthis contraption, it looks more like a plane than an auto > orcycle.There are some pictures and description > at:http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252481273You > only need $15000 US to start the bidding.:)Bill Johnson89Pc800West > Palm Beach, FL > ------------------------------ > | Cheryl L. Johnson | > | Personalized photo gifts! | > | www.touchtheheart.com | > | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | > | 561-622-3329 | > ------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:13:08 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , PC800 --- "Pickett, Bruce D" wrote: > Blue is the only PC I have ever ridden, and my first > bike in a quarter century. I assumed (yes, I know > what it means to ASSUME*) that it was standard for > it to need to be in neutral to be started. But it > looks like mine is atypical. > > So where do I look for the clutch switch? Is it on > the lever, or in the transmission somewhere? > > Bruce Pickett > Federal Way, WA > '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" > http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > "We are all ignorant, > Each of us just doesn't know different things" > - me > > > *when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME > I would prefer if you had said: "I made an assumption* that it was standard for it to need to be in neutral to be started." *then it's, you make an ASS out of U and MPTION See now I am not involved with silly assumptions. ;-}O ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN PCOG/PCOC #74 HSTA #8516RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:32:20 -0500 Subject: PC800: Signing off Hello listers. I haven't been posting much, because I haven't been riding much. And now I won't be riding at all, at least not a Pacific Coast. I sold my PC to a fellow lister who drove 750 miles and back to get the bike . . PC fans are definitely a dedicated bunch. I'll leave it up to the lister in question to announce his purchase, as I'm sure he will. I let the bike go for several reasons. First, I'm newly married and have been preaching frugality in the name of building a nest egg, and that sermon doesn't fly with a shiny red motorcycle sitting in the garage, along with its 4-year honda finance payments, Progressive Insurance, and all the gas/accessories that go with it. Plus, I think a short term affair with a saucy VFR800 at last year's Honda Homecoming made me think about what I really wanted out of motorcycling . . . "practical two-wheeled commuting" wasn't exactly what I was looking for, which the PC provides in spades. What a great, great bike. Second, my riding for the forseeable future will be of the day-tripping variety, so I don't need the trunk, but would like something with a little more oomph and a lighter feel . . again, the saucy red VFR comes to mind. Still, given that I didn't care fore the slightly-forward position of the PC (which hurt my shoulders after a long ride), I'm sure the VFR or any other sportbike would be crushing at anything over an hour, so maybe I'll have to rethink that as well. Perhaps some type of performance cruiser (the Magna was a lot of fun, not to mention the Valk). Either way, I'll likely be bikeless for at least a year . . or maybe just this summer . . or what the hell, maybe this weekend. Who knows. So, I'm signing off, and unless I somehow wind up back on the PC (which I've heard of regret stories before), I probably will not be returning to the list. Congradulate the new lister on his acquisition. Thanks for a wealth of information, and a very special thanks to the listers who made it to the Homecoming last year (you know who you are, you crazy Hampton Inn bunch). Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:51:38 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Signing off To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: >Thanks for a wealth of information, and a very special thanks to >the >listers who made it to the Homecoming last year (you know who you >are, you >crazy Hampton Inn bunch). > > >Doug Wilkerson You can still join us when you get another set of wheels, and you WILL get another set of wheels (probably one for the Mrs. also). We'll just look the other way when you ride in:-) Crazy Hampton Inn Bunch member, Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:51:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:51:50 EST Subject: PC800: 89' age To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Well, mine is not the oldest 89' in the bunch. Maybe the youngest? #003643 Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:48:15 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC list Subject: PC800: [Fwd: Arvid] --------------F91FB4E9F49EA5D1DE387D8B --------------F91FB4E9F49EA5D1DE387D8B (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Feb 8 18:21:22 2000) X-From_: Paups957@aol.com Mon Feb 7 20:35:32 2000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paups957@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:34:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:34:24 EST Subject: Re: Arvid To: gwta@voyager.net In a message dated 02/04/2000 7:41:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, gwta@voyager.net writes: << ) >> Arvid, I have a champion side car and I am very please with it at this time; My brother has a champion (2) seater and her likes it very well also, my single seater is about 200 lbs. and is very comfortable to ride in I know because i road in it quite abit before i purchased from my father. You can find the info on the internet at Champion.com, I feel this is the best for the money it has a great frame and is not to heavy, I pull my belair trailer which hooks up to the sidecar frame not the motor cycle, keeping the trailer in the center of the lane of trafic behind you. Well just a bit of info for a fellow cyclist good luck and safe riding. God bless Paups@aol.com --------------F91FB4E9F49EA5D1DE387D8B-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:52:35 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC list Subject: Re: PC800: Pulse Autocycle (not PC related) These were made in Owosso, Michigan. I remember when they came out. They were really quite a neat thing, but didn't catch on. Too bad. Definitely different. Course the State of Michigan put money into this venture and we lost again. Thomas Cheryl & Bill wrote: > > At 01:30 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Cheryl & Bill wrote: > > > Anybody ever hear or see a "Pulse Autocycle"? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=252481273 > > This link might not work, and you'll get an error msg. > If you do: > > Just put "Pulse Autocycle" in the search box > > Bill > ------------------------------ > | Cheryl L. Johnson | > | Personalized photo gifts! | > | www.touchtheheart.com | > | clynnj@touchtheheart.com | > | 561-622-3329 | > ------------------------------ -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:54:02 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: Pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Signing off Well, thats a shame to see you leave Doug. I hope you can find a bike that suits your needs and finances. Congrats on the marriage. Believe it or not, that always comes first. Thomas dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > > Hello listers. I haven't been posting much, because I haven't been riding > much. And now I won't be riding at all, at least not a Pacific Coast. > > I sold my PC to a fellow lister who drove 750 miles and back to get the > bike . . PC fans are definitely a dedicated bunch. I'll leave it up to the > lister in question to announce his purchase, as I'm sure he will. > > I let the bike go for several reasons. First, I'm newly married and have > been preaching frugality in the name of building a nest egg, and that > sermon doesn't fly with a shiny red motorcycle sitting in the garage, along > with its 4-year honda finance payments, Progressive Insurance, and all the > gas/accessories that go with it. > > Plus, I think a short term affair with a saucy VFR800 at last year's Honda > Homecoming made me think about what I really wanted out of motorcycling . . > . "practical two-wheeled commuting" wasn't exactly what I was looking for, > which the PC provides in spades. What a great, great bike. > > Second, my riding for the forseeable future will be of the day-tripping > variety, so I don't need the trunk, but would like something with a little > more oomph and a lighter feel . . again, the saucy red VFR comes to mind. > > Still, given that I didn't care fore the slightly-forward position of the > PC (which hurt my shoulders after a long ride), I'm sure the VFR or any > other sportbike would be crushing at anything over an hour, so maybe I'll > have to rethink that as well. Perhaps some type of performance cruiser > (the Magna was a lot of fun, not to mention the Valk). > > Either way, I'll likely be bikeless for at least a year . . or maybe just > this summer . . or what the hell, maybe this weekend. Who knows. > > So, I'm signing off, and unless I somehow wind up back on the PC (which > I've heard of regret stories before), I probably will not be returning to > the list. Congradulate the new lister on his acquisition. > > Thanks for a wealth of information, and a very special thanks to the > listers who made it to the Homecoming last year (you know who you are, you > crazy Hampton Inn bunch). > > Doug Wilkerson > ..................................................................................................... > > IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:08:30 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Garbacik To: Ahall77379@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 89' age On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 Ahall77379@aol.com wrote: > > Well, mine is not the oldest 89' in the bunch. Maybe the youngest? > #003643 Sorry, I have number 3896. Tom '89 Moonbeam (#3896) Corvallis, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:39:49 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: 89' age I didn't think there was a CHANCE that I'd have a low-number PC, but I checked anyway... my '89 is number 000276! -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:44:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:44:05 EST Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone gone to the Hoot ?? Any opinions on it. If you could only go to one, which one would you go to, the Home coming or the Honda Hoot ?? Which one would be more beneficial to a PC owner ?? As always thanks in advance, Ride Safe and often, Jim T Beachwood NJ 1996 PC 800 40K Givi E-460 Clearview Plus 3 Corbin (on the way) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Signing off Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:09:02 -0500 Doug; Congratulations on getting married! It was great to meet you at the Hampton Inn in Marysville, Ohio. Hope we meet again some day on your 2005 PC1500 with the V6 engine! Elton K. Hammond P.Eng. (elton.hammond@ekho.com) President The EKHO Institute (http://www.ekho.com) Autodesk Premier Training Center Tel. (613) 822-6935 Fax (613) 822-7132 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: PC800: Signing off > > > Hello listers. I haven't been posting much, because I haven't been riding > much. And now I won't be riding at all, at least not a Pacific Coast. > > I sold my PC to a fellow lister who drove 750 miles and back to get the > bike . . PC fans are definitely a dedicated bunch. I'll leave it up to the > lister in question to announce his purchase, as I'm sure he will. > > I let the bike go for several reasons. First, I'm newly married and have > been preaching frugality in the name of building a nest egg, and that > sermon doesn't fly with a shiny red motorcycle sitting in the garage, along > with its 4-year honda finance payments, Progressive Insurance, and all the > gas/accessories that go with it. > > Plus, I think a short term affair with a saucy VFR800 at last year's Honda > Homecoming made me think about what I really wanted out of motorcycling . . > . "practical two-wheeled commuting" wasn't exactly what I was looking for, > which the PC provides in spades. What a great, great bike. > > Second, my riding for the forseeable future will be of the day-tripping > variety, so I don't need the trunk, but would like something with a little > more oomph and a lighter feel . . again, the saucy red VFR comes to mind. > > > Still, given that I didn't care fore the slightly-forward position of the > PC (which hurt my shoulders after a long ride), I'm sure the VFR or any > other sportbike would be crushing at anything over an hour, so maybe I'll > have to rethink that as well. Perhaps some type of performance cruiser > (the Magna was a lot of fun, not to mention the Valk). > > Either way, I'll likely be bikeless for at least a year . . or maybe just > this summer . . or what the hell, maybe this weekend. Who knows. > > So, I'm signing off, and unless I somehow wind up back on the PC (which > I've heard of regret stories before), I probably will not be returning to > the list. Congradulate the new lister on his acquisition. > > Thanks for a wealth of information, and a very special thanks to the > listers who made it to the Homecoming last year (you know who you are, you > crazy Hampton Inn bunch). > > > Doug Wilkerson > ............................................................................ ......................... > > IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Holding My Breath...(long) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:35:07 PST The StealthMobile may be coming home this week. Finally. But I'm still holding my breath, because I've heard this before... As I have indicated in an earlier post, the odometer stopped rolling at 107,790 miles when I crashed/trashed the Stealth in mid-October. A misplaced patch of mud/gravel on a blind right-hand corner was my downfall, and the resulting slide into the ditch caused $4,200 in damages. All plastic and shop time. I had the good fortune (?) of crashing two blocks from CycleMetrics, which is a wonderful little garage owned and run by Gary Black. Gary is one of the nicer guys you'll ever want to meet and is exceptionally knowledgeable about most motorcycles. He and his wife happened upon the wreck as Chuck and I were dragging the Stealth out of the ditch, and Gary rode the Stealth back to his shop. Farmers Ins set a value of $5K on the Stealth, and agreed upon the $4,200 to repair her. Gary ordered the myriad of plastic that was needed to piece her back together, which came in the first week of November. Everything but one piece. One very key piece that the whole front end was hung off of. Along with the shipping list was a form with that dreaded message: BACKORDERED. The anticipated date of shipping was December 7th, so Gary did what he could without the piece. He also threw on new tires, as I was at the point of needing them anyway. Dec 7th arrived and Honda issued its second decree: BACKORDERED UNTIL JANUARY 29TH. Frustration--pure frustration. Early December brought with it a rare phenomenon here in the NW--nice weather. Day after day of nice weather. I shut the windows in the house, closed the blinds, and vainly tried to find a physician who would give me Valium. Christmas seemed empty; Nan now knew how serious my affair with the Stealth was. It was ugly... The arrival of the New Year also signaled the longest official time that I had gone without riding the Stealth. In mid-June of 1995 I had a serious open heart surgery, but even then I was back to riding by the beginning of September. My withdrawal and depression was deepening day by day. Gary called in mid-January to report that he'd noted an ever-growing puddle of oil under the stilled Stealth. I'd had some oil leakage, but another shop had told me that they thought it was blow-by coming back up through the airbox. This new discovery certainly didn't jibe with that theory. I told Gary to have a go at it since the plastic was still off. A couple of days later Gary called back and reported that the leak was coming from the orifice where the starter was inserted--an o-ring had essentially disintegrated. Only time and riding will tell whether the other theory was right or wrong. On January 29th...Hurrah!...the long-awaited part arrived right on schedule. Gary prioritized the rebuild, as he was fully aware of my near-suicidal state. He had generously allowed me Visitation Rights, which I exercised regularly. I don't know how the Stealth felt about it, but it made me feel better. Gary then discovered that he had made the same mistake which I had made the previous summer when the bike tipped in Montana and I had to order a new mirror assembly. The turn blinker assembly does NOT come with the mirror assembly. Back to the phone--the part was ordered. My hopes were dashed--I was fated to wait yet another week. Last week he called to inform me that the blinker assembly had been received and installed. This news was initially met with great joy, as I anticipated the reunion and the rides that we would once again share. But, alas, it was not to be. Gary gulped and then gently broke me the news that she was not yet ready to leave his stable. A test ride determined that she could not hold an idle. A quick test in the shop ascertained that the rubber connecting tubes between the carbs and the intake manifold were cracked and leaking badly. A quick fix; an easy fix. But no fix, since no one in Portland had the replacement tubes. Back to the phone; back to waiting for yet another ordered part. I'm starting to feel more sorrow for Gary than for myself--he's obviously scared to call me now... The new parts are supposed to be in this week. The next few days are supposed to be sunny and dry. I don't care. I'll go riding anyway. At least I'll go riding after...after I stop holding my breath. Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,790 Miles and Holding...Holding My Breath... "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: List-PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Starting engine with transmission in gear? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:31:55 -0800 Bingo! I took the two wires off the clutch switch and applied my multi-tester to the switch contacts and got zero response when I squeezed the clutch lever. I then jumpered the two wires together to simulate a closed clutch switch, and I was then able to engage the starter while the transmission was in gear. Dismounting the switch from the clutch lever assembly, I found that the contacts didn't move when I pressed the plunger. So now I'll go buy a new clutch switch, and Blue Pacific will then be just like all the other PCs - except that she has the best color! ;-) Thanks for everybody's help on this! Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me > I haven't worked on the PC clutch switch myself, but all the others I've looked at are on the clutch lever housing, just in front of the handlebar. Look for two wires going to ordinary slip-on connectors. Best guess is a bad connection. Clean them up and see how things work. > > Let us know how it goes, > Chris Norloff > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:37:11 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Holding My Breath...(long) To: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu My beloved Xena was viciously bushwhacked by a delivery van on July 29th. What with one thing and another, I didn't get her back until Christmas time. The back ordered part, in my case, was the trunk frame. Aside from stating the obvious-hold on!- A few (possibly) helpful comments. First, it sounds like your insurance company and repair shop are treating you well. I had a nasty fight with Zurich Insurance company(insurers of the van) over this. I was manipulated and even _lied_ to by them throughout the process. (At one point, they shipped a partial check for the damages marked "Full and final payment." When I protested, they told me it was standard policy. Everything would be taken care of, and the case wouldn't be closed out until it was. When I insisted, they told me that they had to reopen the case and reassign an agent.(The original one had simply quit and not handed the case over.) I was told this would add time to things- as the new agent's existing and newer cases would naturally have priority. The state insurance commission swung down on these people, at that point, and craked skulls until things were properly settled.) And the bike shop here in town was not entirely thorough, either... It could be a lot worse. On the other hand.. When I strode into the shop to retrieve the bike- all polished and shiny, after months literally gathering dust in a corner- I can honestly say that it was one of the most honestly emotional moments of my life. Hope it all works out, and baby is home soon! Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mariusz H" To: "PC 800 list" , "Russ Goff" Subject: Odp: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:21:42 +0100 Hi all! I have PC '89 number 003604. -------------------------------------------------- Mariusz Hajdarowicz PC '89 Gdansk, Poland fone: +48/501/573597 m.hajdarowicz@geg.tmiasto.pl -------------------------------------------------- ----- Wiadomooæ oryginalna ----- Od: Russ Goff Do: Wys³ano: 8 lutego 2000 18:40 Temat: PC800: sequential product number > Ok, so who has the oldest '89 (and therefore oldest of all)? > > Bruce has 2476 > Bill has 3306 > and I have........ 1113, so mines the oldest so far, unless of course you > know different............. > > Russ big.russ@tesco.net > Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. PASSED Pt 1. > '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:30 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: headlight bulbs Ridr44@aol.com writes: > Has anyone changed the bulb to one of the brighter versions? I see > there are several that are the same 60/55 watt but claim to be much > brighter. Do they make a significant difference? Many people have done this, and there are probably more postings in the archives that you need to answer your question, but it's a good place to look: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/ I use a Narva xenon "premium" 55/60 bulb, which I purchased at a show from Sport Touring Accessories for $18. They had a rack of 6 or so different headlight bulbs set up, and I picked the one that looked brightest and whitest of the bunch. STA has a web site at: http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ However, the new bulb didn't reach its full potential until I ran a fused 14 gauge wire from the positive terminal of the battery to the front of the bike, and into a relay. This provides more juice to the high beam, which is much brighter. You will also find detailed instructions for installing a headlight relay in the archives. It's worth the $10 investment and 1-2 hours of time. Minimal mechanical skills or tools are required. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: "Russ Goff" , Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:17:14 -0600 Russ and fellow 89 owners: Just checked my VIN and found that I may be riding the oldest PC so far. My VIN is: JH2RC3403KM000040 which, I beleive, identifies it as the 40th PC off the line. I KNEW this was a special bike! PS: Does the prize include gas money? Chuck Chiodini in Heber Springs, Arkansas 89 PC800 "Scooter" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:50:05 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot >Jim T sez: >Has anyone gone to the Hoot ?? Any opinions on it. If you could only go to >one, which one would you go to, the Home coming or the Honda Hoot ?? Which >one would be more beneficial to a PC owner ?? As always thanks in advance, Yes! I have! It was my very first rally! (the Hoot) I had a blast! Of course I had had my license only a couple months and had no clue what to expect, but it was great. I strongly recommend it and I would kill to go again this year but can't. I went to the Honda Homecoming this past summer specifically to meet other PC'ers (we had arrange a rendezvous on line, as you may recall, thanks to Tim Davies), and because it's only an hour from my home. Meeting them was great, but the Homecoming, it seemed to me, was 99.99999% Goldwingers. I didn't have a PC yet when I went to the hoot so didn't notice how many there were there, but the only reason there were more than a few PC's at hhomecoming was because Tim arranged for us to meet there, and even then I think there were about 6 or 7 total. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:56:16 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... I just posted a message about Honda Hoot and the Honda Homecoming that I regret! What was I thinking? I did love the hoot, but I should be trying to persude all PCers to go to the Homecoming! Because I live nearby and can GO to that one! It was a blast meeting the others, who were pretty cool, as it turned out, and I am expecting Tim Davies to organize it again. Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:20:06 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >I did love the hoot, but I should be trying to persude all PCers >to >go to the Homecoming! Because I live nearby and can GO to that >one! >It was a blast meeting the others, who were pretty cool, as it >turned >out, and I am expecting Tim Davies to organize it again. >Betty Lise Anderson Oh no, the pressure's on me now! How many PSI of pressure do you think it will take? There is probably a formula and I hope it includes a varable for for my financial resources. This season I'm spreading them out over Americade (New York) the first part of June and STAR 2000 (Colorado) the last part of June. I guess I'll just have to spend more time on foundmoney.com and hope for good fortune:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:55:32 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number At 08:17 AM 2/9/00 -0600, you wrote: >Russ and fellow 89 owners: > Just checked my VIN and found that I may be riding the oldest PC so far. >My VIN is: JH2RC3403KM000040 which, I beleive, identifies it as the 40th PC >off the line. I KNEW this was a special bike! >PS: Does the prize include gas money? >-- ********* Francois?? Do you care to anwser? Greg Castle Keswick (not downtown),Ontario,Canada 89 PC800 Cheers!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:04:13 -0800 Betty, If the meeting is to happen again,,please make sure it is posted,,,I plan on going,,,going to be hard decision,,,ride my 81 Gold Wing or 94 PC LOL Sure would like to ride the PC..love that bike , but on really long trips,,my feet sit just far enough behind my knees,,they get sore and stiff,,,poor ole me Anyway..hope to see one and all there Doug 94 Knight Rider -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Betty Lise Anderson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... > >I just posted a message about Honda Hoot and the Honda Homecoming >that I regret! >What was I thinking? > >I did love the hoot, but I should be trying to persude all PCers to >go to the Homecoming! Because I live nearby and can GO to that one! >It was a blast meeting the others, who were pretty cool, as it turned >out, and I am expecting Tim Davies to organize it again. >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor >The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering >205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue >Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:06:49 -0800 Come on Tim,,,we know you can do it...for Betty Doug 94 Knight Rider -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... >anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >>I did love the hoot, but I should be trying to persude all PCers >>to >>go to the Homecoming! Because I live nearby and can GO to that >>one! >>It was a blast meeting the others, who were pretty cool, as it >>turned >>out, and I am expecting Tim Davies to organize it again. >>Betty Lise Anderson > >Oh no, the pressure's on me now! How many PSI of pressure do you >think it will take? There is probably a formula and I hope it >includes a varable for for my financial resources. This season I'm >spreading them out over Americade (New York) the first part of June >and STAR 2000 (Colorado) the last part of June. I guess I'll just >have to spend more time on foundmoney.com and hope for good >fortune:-) > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 9 Feb 2000 19:21:29 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The Honda Pacific Coast WebRing Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:47:28 -0500 Harvey reminded me last night that I had started to set up a WebRing for our noble chariots. If you have a PC800 related webpage go here http://www.lists.kz/roadkill/pc800 and join up! Happy Trails, Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:54:52 -0800 Things are a little more complicated than that. I've been looking at the description of serial numbers in the Honda Pacific Coast Parts Catalog (the HPCPC or H - PC squared). Page vi shows that for each model year, there are two separate serial number sequences: one for California, and one for the rest of the world. The bikes sold in California have their own sequential product number sequence and are identified by a vehicle descriptor of "RC341" in the VIN, and those elsewhere are "RC340". The California bikes for '89 have a VIN that is JH2RC341*KM######, with the last six digits for the serial number between 000031 and 000734. Bikes sold in the rest of the world have VINs that are JH2RC340*KM###### with serial numbers between 000015 and 003896. It looks like there could be two '89 PCs with serial number of 40, Chuck's and another one from California. Which came first is anybody's guess. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" (#2476) http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me > Russ and fellow 89 owners: > Just checked my VIN and found that I may be riding the oldest PC so far. > My VIN is: JH2RC3403KM000040 which, I beleive, identifies it as the 40th PC > off the line. I KNEW this was a special bike! > PS: Does the prize include gas money? > > Chuck Chiodini in Heber Springs, Arkansas > 89 PC800 "Scooter" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Juan Antonio Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:04:58 AKST Bruce Pickett >It looks like there could be two '89 PCs with serial number of 40, Chuck's >and another one from California. Which came first is anybody's guess. Well it depends, which PC looks more like a chicken (or more like an egg)? :-) I'd like to see how many "Why did the PC cross the road?" jokes come out of this one, heh heh heh. Sorry guys and gals, winter is _really_ getting to me by now. Juan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Why did the PC cross the road? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:10:55 -0800 Juan, You are eggscused. Bruce > ---------- > From: Juan Antonio Goula[SMTP:obijuang@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:04 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: sequential product number > > Well it depends, which PC looks more like a chicken (or more like an egg)? > :-) > > I'd like to see how many "Why did the PC cross the road?" jokes come out of > this one, heh heh heh. > > Sorry guys and gals, winter is _really_ getting to me by now. > > Juan > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 22:29:20 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lohan Johnson" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Holding My Breath...(long); Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:46:59 +0200 Tim my heart goes out to you! I just try to remember what Confuscious says: "To have lovely nurse, one must first be patient"! Here in Johannesburg its pouring as if I'm in the NW itself, and now we all live in a yellow submarine with a river going through my garden where my pool once was. I took my new bike duster for a waterproof test yesterday and I'm happy to say that it passed. Less happy is the fact that I'm too scared to lean properly when the roads are wet, I just don't feel comfortable enough on my PC even after two years of daily riding. I don't know if any listers experiences it too, but the roadmarkings can be your downfall when you're in low gear and turn over them when its wet. Also, gearing down yields a skid from the rear wheel if you're not applying the brakes hard enough. But besides that I will take ol' Silver out for a quick cruise any day! Still haven't scrape my footpegs yet though. My car is under sail now for three months already, I think I'll sell it next month. I don't have any problems with Silver's vibration either, and she's still as quiet as ever. Maybe I'll replace the broken crashguard tuppperware this year, I'll see (mommy-dearest put it down once and I did twice in the driveway). Just passed 75 000km and I'm yearning to clock the next 75k's too! Nice to be back on the list, special hi's to Tim Davies (intercoms working ok, _still_ saving up for proper helmets to fit them on!), Arvid (someday I'll join you in Norway for a li'l breakfast run still), Emile (jou humor is uitstaande!) and Ron Grant (my idol as far as motorcycle lifestyles go!). BTW, I seem to be one owner of the more rare Japanese edition PC's with a silver top and gray belly and only one of few in South Africa (pictures at http://members1.clubphoto.com/lohan66931/My_bike_General_pictures_featuring_ my_motorcycle./) . And I was in Paris for my birthday last weekend (I'm 22 now and my back ache when I wake up in the morning) and there, besides the magnificent skilled motorcycle riding (or the foolishly daft recklessness of the Parisians -- depending on your sentiments that day), I could only spy two PC's, the one a light blue and the other one black. Both looking kindof haggard by my standards but I suppose its to each his own. Regards Lohan "any color as long as its silver" Johnson 1992 Silver Honda PC800 "Silver" 1990 Yammie IT200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Chuck Chiodini" , "Russ Goff" , Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:07:45 -0800 > PS: Does the prize include gas money? > Ok, ok, who is gonna say, "No just a can of (black, or red, or candy glory red, or Pacific Blue) paint." Lee Barker -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <0118611A0720D111B2CF00805F193027043616EE@xch-sea-12.ca.boeing.com> <0118611A0720D111B2CF00805F193027043616EE@xch-sea-12.ca.boeing.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:16:34 -0500 To: "Pickett, Bruce D" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 10:54 AM -0800 2/9/00, Pickett, Bruce D wrote: >Things are a little more complicated than that. I've been looking at >the description of serial numbers in the Honda Pacific Coast Parts >Catalog (the HPCPC or H - PC squared). Page vi shows that for each >model year, there are two separate serial number sequences: one for >California, and one for the rest of the world. > >The bikes sold in California have their own sequential product >number sequence and are identified by a vehicle descriptor of >"RC341" in the VIN, and those elsewhere are "RC340". The California >bikes for '89 have a VIN that is JH2RC341*KM######, with the last >six digits for the serial number between 000031 and 000734. Bikes >sold in the rest of the world have VINs that are JH2RC340*KM###### >with serial numbers between 000015 and 003896. It looks like there >could be two '89 PCs with serial number of 40, Chuck's and another >one from California. Which came first is anybody's guess. > >Bruce Pickett >Federal Way, WA >'89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" (#2476) Hello Bruce ! I can remember going through the same thought processes about a year ago when I broke down the VIN numbers to see what each one was for. I don't know if they had a whole different set of numbers for California or not, but I do have a theory. The RC340 (49 states) for the 89 model year had the sequential serial numbers from 64 to 6659. The RC341 (CA only) for the 89 model year had the sequential serial numbers from 70 to 6665. So....if they are numbered separately for RC340 and RC341, then that would mean that there were 6,595 made for the 49 states and 6,595 made for the CA market. The totals are the same. I wonder if they didn't build them in batches, where a batch were stamped RC340 for the 49 states, then they stamped RC341 for the next batch which had the emissions changes on it, then back to the first batch, etc. ..... Based on the serial numbers it leads me to believe that at least the first and last batches were CA models. I have no idea if this is true, it is merely speculation on my part based on the numbers. I don't see how CA could have sold just as many bikes as the rest of the US. Who knows, maybe they did. I'm just playing "Devil's Advocate" and presenting another possibility! Ride safe... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <20000209141955.15300.qmail@hotmail.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:20:44 -0500 To: "Chuck Chiodini" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number Cc: "Russ Goff" , At 8:17 AM -0600 2/9/00, Chuck Chiodini wrote: >Russ and fellow 89 owners: > Just checked my VIN and found that I may be riding the oldest PC so far. >My VIN is: JH2RC3403KM000040 which, I beleive, identifies it as the 40th PC >off the line. I KNEW this was a special bike! >PS: Does the prize include gas money? Hmmm. I'm not sure Chuck. I'll have to see what the organizers think. You see....we just figured that nobody would *want* to go to Keswick, Ontario, Canada voluntarily! he he he .... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:22:33 -0800 I Have to agree...especially as I have 94,,,weeeee Doug 94 Knight Rider -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com To: obijuang@hotmail.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:40 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Good...better...best! >In a message dated 2/1/00 12:10:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, >obijuang@hotmail.com writes: > ><< There ain't no doubt in my mind...the '97 and '98 models are by far the > >best! >> >That is of course unless you can get your lucky hands on a 94 or 95 model. >Honda cheapened the later models to try and hold cost down. There aint no >doubt in my mind that if it aint black, then it aint as good as it could be!! > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "Pickett, Bruce D" , "'Francois Saint Laurent'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: sequential product number Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:42:02 -0800 Francois, The serial numbers that you are quoting are the engine numbers, while the ones that I used are frame serial numbers, and which are the ones that are part of the VIN. The engine s/n and the frame s/n probably are not the same on any given bike. Based on the frame serial numbers, my interpretation is that there were 703 bikes for California (734 - 31 in RC341 series) and 3881 everywhere else (3896 - 15 in RC340 series), for a total of 4584 PCs in the '89 model. It may also be possible that the CA bikes are just a subset out of a total population of 3881 bikes. But this is just a guess. >From the table of serial numbers on page vi of the PC parts catalog: Model Type Unique area Applicable Engine s/n Applicable Frame s/n PC800'89 A Except CA RC34E-2000064~2006659 RC340*KM000015~KM003896 AC California RC34E-2000070~2006665 RC341*KM000031~KM000734 Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" (#2476) http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me > Hello Bruce ! > > I can remember going through the same thought processes about a year > ago when I broke down the VIN numbers to see what each one was for. > I don't know if they had a whole different set of numbers for > California or not, but I do have a theory. > > The RC340 (49 states) for the 89 model year had the sequential serial > numbers from 64 to 6659. > The RC341 (CA only) for the 89 model year had the sequential serial > numbers from 70 to 6665. > > So....if they are numbered separately for RC340 and RC341, then that > would mean that there were 6,595 made for the 49 states and 6,595 > made for the CA market. The totals are the same. I wonder if they > didn't build them in batches, where a batch were stamped RC340 for > the 49 states, then they stamped RC341 for the next batch which had > the emissions changes on it, then back to the first batch, etc. ..... > Based on the serial numbers it leads me to believe that at least the > first and last batches were CA models. > > I have no idea if this is true, it is merely speculation on my part > based on the numbers. I don't see how CA could have sold just as many > bikes as the rest of the US. Who knows, maybe they did. I'm just > playing "Devil's Advocate" and presenting another possibility! > > Ride safe... > > fsl :-) > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:34:11 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:35:23 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PC800 Rider" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot and Homecoming... > anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: > >I did love the hoot, but I should be trying to persude all PCers > >to > >go to the Homecoming! Because I live nearby and can GO to that > >one! > >It was a blast meeting the others, who were pretty cool, as it > >turned > >out, and I am expecting Tim Davies to organize it again. > >Betty Lise Anderson Dates Please !!!!! I know the Hoot is June 21-21, Torill is supposed to end Her work scheduled the 20. Will fly over to NY,asap after that, pick up the sidecaroutfit in Lancaster,PA and then go rallying :-) We was thinking about the WingDing(end of June ?), but will much rather meet You, the FUN lot anywhere possible !! I'll have to "sweettalk" Torill's boss, to let her off the oilrig a few days earlier than scheduled so that We with 100 % can make at least the Hoot. Right ??? Maybe You could help Us by sending pleas to him at : Oh! I have not the E-mail adress here right now !! :-) Arvid Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Re:Honda Northwind Riding Suit Large Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:39:43 -0500 Hi Listers, I got a Aerostitch this past summer and have sitting hardly used (one trip to CA in winter of 91). a blue color Honda Northwind winter riding suit. They are made by Hein Gericke. and has a bib type pants with suspenders. Zip up mid thigh coat. Quilted interior. Pretty warm stuff and cost $175 new. I'd like to get $75 and I'll pay the freight. I wore it at 5'11" 38 waist 32 inseam and 195 lbs. Had enough room inside to put more items on.. I got it in Oct 91 when I strolled into a little Honda dealer in Greeley Colo. He had a left over 89 PC800 on the floor for $4250. 3% sales tax and I was ready to go. But I woke up the next morning thinking why should a motorcycle go for such a good price...Oh yeah it's late Oct in the Rocky Mtns. the next 2 days the temps fell muchly and so did a bit of snow. They got me this riding suit in a hurry and I got on the road to my next military assignment in Los Angeles. Somewhere around the Eisenhower tunnel(10,000 feet or more) I was kinda getting rigormortis like, so I got off the interstate and rode into a small town there. First stop sign came up and I found my knees were so stiff they would not lift my feet from the pegs... I did like that guy on the bicycle used to do on Laugh-In. Love those crashbar covers...I jumped off and deadlifted the left handlebar straight up and got it up and kickstanded it. Well a smoker at that time, and at over 10,000 feet yanking a 650lb ride up fulla gear. Yeah I saw some spiritual stuff flying by for a few minutes. That lack of oxygen is a real grabber. I went in a cafe and warmed up thinking about my Eclipse electric vest I had MAILED back from Italy a few weeks earlier. Well made it to LA, and it was too warm there for the Suit and then came to south GA and haven't got any use for it in the south. So hope one of you can. Those over in Europe you can get the postage. Thanks Randy in GA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:07:40 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:13:35 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net <20000209141955.15300.qmail@hotmail.com> A check of my VIN reveals that my '89 PC was the 2,863rd made (VIN: JH2RC3402KM002863). By the way...it is for sale. If anyone is interested..contact me off the list. ___________________________________________________ On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:17:14 -0600, Chuck Chiodini wrote: -->Russ and fellow 89 owners: --> Just checked my VIN and found that I may be riding the oldest PC = so far. -->My VIN is: JH2RC3403KM000040 which, I beleive, identifies it as the = 40th PC -->off the line. I KNEW this was a special bike! -->PS: Does the prize include gas money? --> -->Chuck Chiodini in Heber Springs, Arkansas -->89 PC800 "Scooter" _________________________________________________ Sorry, haven't named it...or my other motorcycles either. THAT, 'other motorcycles', is the reason for selling the PC. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Honda Northwind Riding Suit Large Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:43:57 -0500 Hi List, Jim jumped right on my earlier note and I'll send the suit off to him...Ron was just behind that. So it should be gone. thanks Randy in GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:22:14 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: "Pickett, Bruce D" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Why did the PC cross the road? That's a shell of a yolk, though... Ralph Couey Columbia, MO "Pickett, Bruce D" wrote: > > Juan, > > You are eggscused. > > Bruce > > > ---------- > > From: Juan Antonio Goula[SMTP:obijuang@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:04 AM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: PC800: sequential product number > > > > Well it depends, which PC looks more like a chicken (or more like an egg)? > > :-) > > > > I'd like to see how many "Why did the PC cross the road?" jokes come out of > > this one, heh heh heh. > > > > Sorry guys and gals, winter is _really_ getting to me by now. > > > > Juan > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:18:55 -0600 The Short Version: I have loved the Pacific Coast since I first saw one in my home town Honda dealer's showroom when they first came out. Much time has passed, but I finally have in my possession one _sweet_ '98 PC. This newly adopted steed was in Doug Wilkerson's garage until about 1:30 am Monday night when I traded Doug two checks for his beloved PC. Yes, I'm the crazy fool Doug mentioned who drove 750 miles to come get it. Well worth the drive in my opinion. Certainly didn't mind taking the one day 750 mile trip home with it yesterday either. What a bike. My thanks to you Doug for taking such good care of the bike and offering me a great deal on it. My compliments to the GIVI folks for their outstanding top box. And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. I want to thank all of the listers in advance for their patience as I'm certain to be full of PC questions for some time to come. A pleasure to be counted among the ranks of elated PC owners. Brad Nicholson '98 PC Oklahoma City, OK The _Really_ Long Version I saw Doug's posting mentioning he was considering selling exactly what I had just entered the market for: a well-maintained '98 Pacific Coast. After Doug and I figured out the logistics of transferring title and such from Alabama to Oklahoma, no small feet by the way, and agreed upon a price it was time to pick up my dream bike. I hopped a ride, helmet in hand, with a frien who was headed to Montgomery, AL. He dropped me at the mall for some shopping before I grabbed a hotel room to await Doug's arrival from Canada. As mentioned, Doug arrived in Tuscaloosa around 1 am and picked me up at the hotel. I was pleasantly surprised to see the bike actually looked better in person than it did in pictures. It was easy to see Doug had truly babied this one. Needless to say, I took the PC back to my hotel with a huge grin on my face. My brother from Atlanta had purchased a new Harley last week and was dying to get it out on the road. So he came over to join me for a little ride, he on his brand new 2000 Harley Davidson ElectraGlide and me on my newly acquired '98 Honda Pacific Coast. The new Harley is truly something to see as evidenced by all the gawkers and second looks as it sits in the parking lot. The Harley has a well-deserved rough and tumble stance and demeanor while the Pacific Coast is simply an elegant work of Tupperware Art worthy of display in the Smithsonian Institute. Interesting to see the two drastically different applications of the same means of conveyance parked side by side. One size truly does not fit all. Michael hit the road following a full workday in Atlanta, GA to meet up with me in Tuscaloosa, AL. After spending the night in a hotel room we started off at 5:45 am with a temp in the low 30s or upper 20s. As you can imagine, it was a tad cold with a self-induced 60 mph wind chill. Certainly helps that we were passing through a beautiful portion of East-central Alabama countryside and into Mississippi. We were able to cover about 85 miles before we stopped in Columbus, MS for breakfast at a Waffle House. It was certainly good to be back on the road together as we have been in years past. Opened the floodgate of motorcycling memories. At Columbus we parted ways with Michael pointing the Harley back toward his home and family in Atlanta and me pointing the Honda toward mine in Oklahoma City. I could almost see it in the distance some 650 miles away. My plan was to stay on Hwy 82 as it passes Westward all the way to Texarkana, TX before turning Northwest into scenic Southeast Oklahoma. As the brop brop brop of the Harley faded into the early morning mist, I was finally able to hear the purr of the Honda's engine running along at speed. It is difficult to hear the engine over the wind noise on the highway. Some Pacific Coast owners I've corresponded with refer their bikes as running in stealth mode. I'm inclined to agree with their assessment. I found myself settling into the bike and eagerly anticipating an entire day of getting better acquainted. The comfortable ride and the shielding from the wind allowed me to enjoy the scenery more than ever before. I spent the first part of the morning riding through the middle of swamp land. The cypress trees were magnificently draped with Spanish Moss that appeared just above the morning's thick coating of mist on the water. Knowing I had to cover more than 600 additional miles before the day was over, I resisted the urge to pull over and take a photo. I found myself having to continually repeat the process of talking myself out of photo opportunities as the day progressed. I kept finding myself thinking about how much better it was to be on the bike than in the office. Okay, I'll be honest, I really kept thinking about how much better I like doing anything rather than working. owever, I did enjoy riding the Pacific Coast much more than being in the office on this particular day. The miles slowly disappeared from the distance to be covered and appeared on the odometer of my newly acquired bike. There's a certain satisfaction in knowing the odometer is rolling toward higher numbers under your direct control. As I rolled across Mississippi I got to see first Starkville then Winona, followed by Greenwood, Indianola, and finally Greenville. All of them towns with distinctly different looks and feels. The one thing I regret about long distance riding is the inability to stop and explore individual towns along the way. To the Southwest of Greenville, I crossed the Mississippi River and passed into Arkansas. The view of the river was stunning. It never fails to impress me to see a river like the Mississippi. As I rolled over the bridge I could see the surrounding countryside for miles in any direction as barges moved downriver below me. Coming down off of the bridge into the fertile bottom land I discovered a freshly planted field full of Light or Snow Geese. You know, the kind that are becoming so abundant they are destroying their own fragile summer habitat. There were literally hundreds upon hundreds of geese. It looked like the geese were in traffic patterns circling around an International Airport. To the South you could see V formations of geese coming in to join the others while others were leaving to the North. I was unable to resist the temptation to pull to the side and snap a few pictures of this gathering. After resting briefly while enjoying the spectcle, I breathed petroleum-powered life back into the Honda's engine and rolled on down Hwy 82. This stretch of Hwy 82 circles the enormous natural oxbow Lake hicot. The surface of the lake was covered with ducks and pelicans in numbers I've seen only on the Discovery Channel. It was truly an impressive feeling to be rolling down the highway while the ducks took to the air in groups parallel to my path. I could actually hear, over the wind noise and the purr of the engine, the splashing of duck's feet running across the water while their wingtips slapped the surface. After leaving I continued on Hwy 82 toward El Dorado, AR to eventually end up at Texarkana on the Arkansas and Texas border. I managed to stumble across a great half-slab of ribs at a gas station in Hamburg, AR. They were so tender that picking them up by the bones resulted in the bones simply falling out of the rib meat. I try to find some BBQ ribs anytime I'm in Arkansas and wasn't disappointed to have found these. Heading West took me through increasingly hilly countryside as I approached El Dorado then Texarkana. At Texarkana, I finally parted ways with Hwy 82. >From Texarkana, I decided to point the bike Northwest and head into Oklahoma through a portion of the Ouachita National Forest. After Broken Bow, OK Hwy 3 turns out to be a fabulous two lane trip through the forested hills of Southeast Oklahoma. As Hwy 3 approached the Indian Nation Turnpike, I was losing light fast and decided a 80 mph run up the Turnpike, they have a 75 mph speed limit here, to I-40 was in order to find my bed at a decent hour. The Honda seemed very comfortable traveling at this speed for over 100 miles straight. It was as if it were asking for more gas all the time. I would be happy to oblige; however, the last thing I need is a speeding ticket on my way home with a brand new bike. Once the turnpike joined the Interstate, it was another hour worth of nondescript Interstate riding between me, my home, and my family. Seemed like the longest hour of the entire ride. The odometer slowly clicked upward toward its final reading of 742 miles for the day. Having left Tuscaloosa, AL at about 5:45 in the morning I had managed to arrive in Oklahoma City at 8:30 that night. There is nothing in this world like a hug from your beautiful wife to end a great day. A quick call to Michael revealed he had arrived safely home after logging a total of 584 miles on his round trip from Atlanta, GA to Columbus, MS. The bike is everything I expected and more. You rarely anticipate something for years only to have it not only meet but exceed your expectations. I'm sold on Honda's Pacific Coast and lament Honda has dropped it from their offerings after 1998. I intend to ride this one into the ground and will eventually need a replacement. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <002001bf733c$46c21620$71d61ec4@METROPOLIS.CO.ZA> <00fe01bf7377$befb35a0$1d561ed1@codybear> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:28:45 -0500 To: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Cc: , At 9:18 PM -0600 2/9/00, Brad and Kendra Nicholson wrote: >The Short Version: > >My thanks to you Doug for taking such good care of the bike and offering me >a great deal on it. My compliments to the GIVI folks for their outstanding >top box. And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great >handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a >wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. > Welcome to the list Brad, and congratulations on picking up Doug's bike. I feel honored having my name mentioned in your post, but unfortunately I don't deserve it. The handlebar bag is the brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this list. He came up with the idea, has them made to his spec, and sells them to other list members at a decent price. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I do own one though. I'm not sure why Doug would have thought I was involved, but I figure he was tired at 1:30 in the morning and since he had just come back from Canada, maybe his Canadian friends were on his mind! Either way...welcome to the list. Any friend of Doug's is a friend of mine. Hopefully we can meet up some day. Ride safe. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by horizon2.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 07:23:42 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: OK I'll MAKE it PC related! Date: Tue, 09 Feb 99 18:05:34 PST So I can go to the USA to Ride with you guys more! And so i can get me a WHITE one to go with the 90. So I can meet MORE folks on this list! What i need is to find these new VISA rules that "supposedly" allow speci= al 6 year entry to Math/Science teachers ....here are the hints I know. An article about it in Washington Post Dec 23.....something about Teach = USA.....I tried a site search, I'm not good enough to find it. Its supposed to be on a H1-B Specialty Visa.; initiated by the employer Ive checked a few job search sites and it seems there are TONS of opening= s, just that pesky visa thing. ANY help/hints MUCH appreciated! .Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "cycles" To: Subject: PC800: pc800 web site Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:21:40 -0500 Importance: Normal do you know of a pc800 web site or email list? I am trying to part out a 1989 pc800. Any help would be appreciated. Raymond So Cycle Search International, Inc. 4142 Anson Drive Hilliard, Ohio 43026 United States 614-527-4650 tel 614-527-4651 fax cycles@mindspring.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:48:15 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! To: codybear@flash.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dwilkers@us.ibm.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <002001bf733c$46c21620$71d61ec4@METROPOLIS.CO.ZA> <00fe01bf7377$befb35a0$1d561ed1@codybear> codybear@flash.net writes: >I want to thank all of the listers in advance for their patience >as I'm >certain to be full of PC questions for some time to come. > >A pleasure to be counted among the ranks of elated PC owners. > >Brad Nicholson >'98 PC >Oklahoma City, OK Congratulations on your new steed. We'll miss seeing Doug on a Pacific Coast, but it sounds like he did the proper screening to find a new owner worthy of being a Pacific Coaster. I have only one question about this transaction, did Doug keep the beaded seat cover to use in the family car as a cherished memento of the 1999 Honda HomeComing Pacific Coast Gathering? After all, he says he had the coolest butt out of the whole group because of it. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ridr44@aol.com for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:35:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:35:03 EST Subject: PC800: PC800 for Sale... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu 97' PC800 bought new in 98, more than 1 year left on warrantee. 6000 miles. Mint! GIVI box with backrest and luggage rack. Rifle wind screen, largest one. Original windscreen also. Throttle lock. Original Honda Radio. Garaged. Red. New York area. Best offer over $6,000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "PC800 Rider" Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:33:21 -0600 Thank you. The beaded seat cover now resides in Oklahoma. I actually had to take it off as it was allowing too much air between me and the seat. Should be very nice and cool in the summer though. Brad Nicholson '98 PC Oklahoma City, OK ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:48 AM Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! > codybear@flash.net writes: > >I want to thank all of the listers in advance for their patience > >as I'm > >certain to be full of PC questions for some time to come. > > > >A pleasure to be counted among the ranks of elated PC owners. > > > >Brad Nicholson > >'98 PC > >Oklahoma City, OK > > > Congratulations on your new steed. We'll miss seeing Doug on a > Pacific Coast, but it sounds like he did the proper screening to > find a new owner worthy of being a Pacific Coaster. I have only one > question about this transaction, did Doug keep the beaded seat > cover to use in the family car as a cherished memento of the 1999 > Honda HomeComing Pacific Coast Gathering? After all, he says he had > the coolest butt out of the whole group because of it. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "Francois Saint Laurent" Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:40:31 -0600 Francois, Thanks for the reply. I'm sure I misunderstood Doug as I too, believe it or not, was a little tired at 1:30 in the morning. My thanks to Neil for developing the handlebar bag would seem to be in order. Thanks Neil. Perhaps one day we will have a PC gathering... Brad Nicholson '98 PC Oklahoma City, OK ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent To: Brad and Kendra Nicholson Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:28 PM Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! > At 9:18 PM -0600 2/9/00, Brad and Kendra Nicholson wrote: > > >The Short Version: > > > >My thanks to you Doug for taking such good care of the bike and offering me > >a great deal on it. My compliments to the GIVI folks for their outstanding > >top box. And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great > >handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a > >wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. > > > > > Welcome to the list Brad, and congratulations on picking up Doug's > bike. I feel honored having my name mentioned in your post, but > unfortunately I don't deserve it. The handlebar bag is the > brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this list. He came up with the > idea, has them made to his spec, and sells them to other list members > at a decent price. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I do > own one though. I'm not sure why Doug would have thought I was > involved, but I figure he was tired at 1:30 in the morning and since > he had just come back from Canada, maybe his Canadian friends were on > his mind! > > Either way...welcome to the list. Any friend of Doug's is a friend of > mine. Hopefully we can meet up some day. > > Ride safe. > > fsl > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: "PC800 List" Cc: "Pickett, Bruce D" Subject: PC800: Taller windshield Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:48:04 -0600 Hello all, One thing I did discover about the PC on the trip home was a taller windshield is in order. I've seen some discussion on the list regarding windshield options and plan on digging through the archive before making any purchasing decisions. I was just wondering what other listers may have for sale that didn't meet their particular needs. Bruce, is your tall windshield still for sale? If so, what didn't work out about it for you? I'm planning on putting about 150 miles a day on the PC, so I want the best possible windshield I can get for my 6' height. Any suggestions can be sent directly to me to avoid cluttering the list with a common thread. Thanks in advance for any and all advice or opinions. Brad Nicholson '98 PC Oklahoma City, OK -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <002001bf733c$46c21620$71d61ec4@METROPOLIS.CO.ZA> <00fe01bf7377$befb35a0$1d561ed1@codybear> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:02:02 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! The New Guy, Brad, sez: >> And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great >>handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a >>wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. >> > And Old News Francois says: > The handlebar bag is the brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this >list. He came up with the idea, has them made to his spec, ... Neill makes them himself! Shows how much YOU know! Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor The Ohio State University Department of Electrical Engineering 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 08:14:35 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:14:36 -0600 From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Where to drain the coolant? Hello. I am in the process of changing my anitfreeze. I've read to drain the coolant through a bolt on the bottom of the water pump. I've done that. But I've also read to always put on a new crush washer. The thing is I don't see a washer on this bolt. So either everyone else is talking about the washer on a different drain bolt, or the person who had the bike before me forgot to put a washer on. When I drained it, I only got about 1.75 liters of coolant out, the manual says it holds 2.5L, so that leads me to beleive there might be another drain bolt, too. Thanks for any info, Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Francois Saint Laurent cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:18:18 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Francois: I just mentioned the piece of plastic you inserted into the map pocket window to keep it stiff, because on its own its a little saggy. I didn't remember Neil's name, and we were both so bleary-eyed that I guess we miscommunicated. Brad: Hop on the bike and bring it back. I missed it the moment you drove off! Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 Francois Saint Laurent on 02/09/2000 11:28:45 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" cc: , Doug Wilkerson/Birmingham/IBM@IBMUS Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! At 9:18 PM -0600 2/9/00, Brad and Kendra Nicholson wrote: >The Short Version: > >My thanks to you Doug for taking such good care of the bike and offering me >a great deal on it. My compliments to the GIVI folks for their outstanding >top box. And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great >handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a >wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. > Welcome to the list Brad, and congratulations on picking up Doug's bike. I feel honored having my name mentioned in your post, but unfortunately I don't deserve it. The handlebar bag is the brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this list. He came up with the idea, has them made to his spec, and sells them to other list members at a decent price. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I do own one though. I'm not sure why Doug would have thought I was involved, but I figure he was tired at 1:30 in the morning and since he had just come back from Canada, maybe his Canadian friends were on his mind! Either way...welcome to the list. Any friend of Doug's is a friend of mine. Hopefully we can meet up some day. Ride safe. fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:22:42 -0600 To: ryan@e-etc.com From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Where to drain the coolant? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ryan: The washer is metal. It is not rubber or neoprene. My dealer says they don't have to be changed (despite what the service manual says). The bolt that use remove to drain the system is the lower right hand bolt on the water pump. The bolt is about 2 inches long when removed. I can fax you a page out of the service manual if you'd like to see the diagram. Plus, the extra anti-freeze is in your overflow tank. A few ounces hides in there... I'm guessing you didn't drain it. There's where the missing coolant is hiding. Rich Fenwick Illinois At 08:14 AM 02/10/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Hello. I am in the process of changing my anitfreeze. I've >read to drain the coolant through a bolt on the bottom >of the water pump. I've done that. But I've also read to >always put on a new crush washer. The thing is I don't >see a washer on this bolt. So either everyone else is >talking about the washer on a different drain bolt, >or the person who had the bike before me forgot to >put a washer on. > >When I drained it, I only got about 1.75 liters of coolant >out, the manual says it holds 2.5L, so that leads me to >beleive there might be another drain bolt, too. > >Thanks for any info, > >Ryan >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:58:49 -0500 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: sequential product number Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > >Hmmm. I'm not sure Chuck. I'll have to see what the organizers >think. You see....we just figured that nobody would *want* to go to >Keswick, Ontario, Canada voluntarily! > >he he he .... > >fsl :-) > ***********WELL,,,, unless you are into ice fishing and beer!! Greg Castle 89 PC Keswick (ice fishing capital of the world) Ontario,Canada Cheers!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:00:50 -0500 To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 8:18 AM -0500 2/10/00, dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > >Brad: > >Hop on the bike and bring it back. I missed it the moment you drove off! > >Doug Wilkerson >.....................................................................=20 >................................ Yup.... IMMPCS...I Miss My PC Syndrome.... Well, listers, is anyone from this list also on the VFR list? I'm=20 curious to see how many *hours* it will take Doug to buy a VFR!!! Ride safe... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) =46rancois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda =20 HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <002001bf733c$46c21620$71d61ec4@METROPOLIS.CO.ZA> <00fe01bf7377$befb35a0$1d561ed1@codybear> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:30:56 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:02 AM -0800 2/10/00, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >The New Guy, Brad, sez: > > > >>>And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great >>>handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a >>>wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. >>> >> > >And Old News Francois says: > > >>The handlebar bag is the brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this >>list. He came up with the idea, has them made to his spec, ... > > >Neill makes them himself! Shows how much YOU know! > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor Wow! They are just *SO* well made that I assumed that they were made by RKA or Chase Harper! Yeah...that's the story... that's what it is.... that, and the fact that my memory is starting to go at my age.... Thanks Betty Lise.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 16:26:02 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:51:43 -0500 If you have a PC800 related website you should join the webring so's we can find yah: http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pc800;list You can also see all the sites already joined up at that URL. P.S. Candy Apple Red Rulz! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EYG3S8EW; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:36:09 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:35:10 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! From: "Harvey P. Sattin" I added mine! Thanks Ron. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA (It's finally beginning to warm up!) On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:51:43 -0500 Ron Kimball writes: > If you have a PC800 related website you should join the webring so's > we can > find yah: > http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pc800;list > > You can also see all the sites already joined up at that URL. > > P.S. Candy Apple Red Rulz! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 20:13:53 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The Beast of the East Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:39:34 -0500 Anyone going to the Motorcycle Rider's Foundation's "The Beast of the East" next weekend? Ride on, RK -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 10 Feb 2000 13:39:55 -0600 (CST) id x.6.1f4867b (4390) for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:36:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:36:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: PC800: windshield cleaners To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu What do you use to clean a Clearview windshield ?? The info sheet says not to use alcohol based cleaners such as glass cleaner. I had planned just to use windex as I have always used on eveything else. They gave me a little bottle of "showbike" to clean it, I guess I will have to check around to see where I can get more. Still praying for warm weather Jim T 1996 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 21:19:10 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 GloveBox Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:44:50 -0500 I've got a '90 in the "best" candy apple color and was wondering what color PC800 GloveBox would look best on it? Happy Trails, RK -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:40:53 -0900 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: New address Hello, I've determined that web-based e-mail is not quite for me, not yet. So I am again subscribed to the list through my office. I will continue to check my hotmail account for a few more days, but if you need to send me something please send it to this address. Thanks! -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:50:45 PST >What do you use to clean a Clearview windshield ?? The info sheet >says not >to use alcohol based cleaners such as glass cleaner. I had >planned just to >use windex as I have always used on eveything else. >They gave me a little >bottle of "showbike" to clean it, I guess I >will have to check around to >see where I can get more. DO NOT USE WINDEX or any alcohol or ammonnia based cleaner!!!! They fog the shield. The stuff clearview provides with the shield works great. You can order more from the company that makes the stuff directly. I used diluted car wash soap last Sunday to get the salt and grime off. Then I used the showbike stuff. Get cloth diapers to clean your PC Windshield. They will not scratch it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FPQGDK00.PJF for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:15:20 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:09:07 +0100 > http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pc800;list I made a PC800 webring logo, based on the ST1100 webring logo that on my sites are linked to a random other site of the PC webring. You can copy the picture from my site: http://fly.to/emile or http://go.to/pc800 This is the html code when the picture is saved in a folder called images: PC800 Webring The URL http://nav.webring.org/cgi-bin/navcgi?ring=pc800;random will link to a random other PC webring site. Of course you still need to have the other html code links to be able to stay on the ring, I just thought the webring logo might be nicer and more attractive. Comments are welcome, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: V5000TA Multi-Sensor Vehicle Compass Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:24:27 -0800 Here is a cool navigation toy: electronic compass, altimeter, clock, and thermometer all in one: http://www.precisionnavigation.com/v5000main.html I asked the manufacturer if their product is weatherproof, and they responded with: "Although the unit can withstand having water being splashed on the unit, the unit is not weatherproof." Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html "We are all ignorant, Each of us just doesn't know different things" - me -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "sky56553" To: Subject: PC800: Information for PC 800 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:53:04 +0100 Dear Pc friends I search the original HONDA partnumbers of the bodywork from my PC model = 1990 my bike is original from the States but here in Belgium (Europe) are no = books or micro slites available. If there is sombody who have these information plaese get in touch with = me. My home adres is: =20 DIMIAUX RUDI MORTELSTRAAT 57 3150 HAACHT BELGIUM =20
 
I search the original HONDA = partnumbers of the=20 bodywork from my PC model 1990
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My home adres is:   
DIMIAUX RUDI
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 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:32:34 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: >What do you use to clean a Clearview windshield ?? The info sheet >says not to >use alcohol based cleaners such as glass cleaner. I had planned >just to use >windex as I have always used on eveything else. They gave me a >little bottle >of "showbike" to clean it, I guess I will have to check around to >see where I >can get more. > >Still praying for warm weather >Jim T >1996 PC800 I have used a product called Brillianize (www.brilianize.com) for most of the 34 years I've been riding a motorcycle. It is marketed to the plastics industry as a cleaner specifically for cleaning Plexiglas, Lexan, Lucite, etc. It is a liquid that is sprayed on like any window cleaner and you wipe it off with a soft cloth (I carry a wash cloth with me), then buff with a dry cloth. You can use it on any painted surface also to clean off the dust and renew the shine. I have seen it for sale at a couple of motorcycle rallies (Honda HomeComing for one) and it comes in an 8 oz. spray bottle or gallon jug. At the show they charge $6.50 to $8 for the 8oz. spray. I buy it for $3.20 in the spray bottle and $14 a gallon (can you say gouge the motorcycle rally goer?). I order it from a plastics distributer, AIN Plastics and there is a minimum $50 order. Last time I got some for myself and a few of my Canadian buddies. There is an AIN Plastics center in New Brunswick, NJ, 800-733-2102, 732-545-1919, but I don't know if they have any over the counter sales. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:51:31 EST Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners To: KC2ATQ@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Use KIT Carnuba wax. You can get ut anywhere and use it on the entire bike, windshield too. Can't get that road tar off of the plastic louvers just below the radiator? Use citrus based cleaner. It's got 1000 uses and wiil not harm the paint. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FPQLMX00.JKM for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:08:57 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: V5000TA Multi-Sensor Vehicle Compass Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:02:37 +0100 >From: Pickett, Bruce D >Here is a cool navigation toy: electronic compass, altimeter, clock, >and thermometer all in one: http://www.precisionnavigation.com/v5000main.html Now I know Casio has a watch that also has those features, but they have a new one now that is probably the ultimate navigation toy: http://www.casio.com/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&PID=1679&Parent=40 Not only the time but also: GPS Global Positioning System Pathfinder Latitude and Longitude Current Position Readings Navigation Functions: Landmark Memory and Waypoint Plot Screen Low Power Operation Almanac Data Storage EL Backlight Water Resistant 12/24 Hour Formats Auto Calendar Daily Alarm They also have a watch with built in digital camera and one with a built in MP3 player... kewl.. huh huh... Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:12:59 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Tom and Jennie A." Subject: PC800: REDUCED: '95 PC800 for sale Well folks, I like my PC but am wanting to sell it to get a ST1100. I posted a message to this list about 2 weeks ago and apologize for intruding again but I want to drop the price of the bike from $4800 to $4000. I'm getting itchy to order the 2000 ST1100 and am seriously considering trading this '95 PC to my local Honda shop. Naturally I won't get what it's worth so that's why I am reducing the price. If you are interested please reply soon because if I don't sell it in a couple of weeks, I will just trade it in on the ST1100. If anyone is interested in buying the bike but can't get it home for a month or two I would be happy to store it in my garage (alongside the new ST1100!) for a month or so. Here's the nearly original description I posted last time: FOR SALE: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) Black/Silver with decorative accents Chrome railing behind and beside seat Simulated woodgrain dash and fairing pockets Foot Pegs Cigarette lighter Lighted VDO voltmeter and lighted VDO clock CycleCom CB/Intercom System with 2 J&M Headsets Givi 46 liter trunk with brake light Fairing mounted push button garage door opener New OEM battery in September '99 6300 miles on new Dunlops (front and rear) Service Manual and original Owners Manual Excellent mechanical shape, body has a few imperfections Located in Evansville Indiana 27K miles Was $4800/offer now $4000 firm. Contact Tom: tjambro (at) sigecom.net More info at: HTTP://63.69.210.24/tom/pc800.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:15:41 -0600 Doug, Now I feel guilty. Not enough to bring it back, but guilty all the same... The PC is off to get new tires tomorrow. Right now, I think that is more important than a taller windshield. I plan on replacing it with Dunlops unless somebody on the list can make a compelling argument against them. 10,600 on the odometer today. Can't seem to stay off it. I expect we'll see you on the VFR in short order. Perhaps you could spin it as a prudent investment option in the building of your nest egg. Surely it will appreciate as an instant classic. Brad ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Francois Saint Laurent Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! > > > > Francois: > > I just mentioned the piece of plastic you inserted into the map pocket > window to keep it stiff, because on its own its a little saggy. I didn't > remember Neil's name, and we were both so bleary-eyed that I guess we > miscommunicated. > > Brad: > > Hop on the bike and bring it back. I missed it the moment you drove off! > > Doug Wilkerson > ............................................................................ ......................... > > IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 > > > > Francois Saint Laurent on 02/09/2000 11:28:45 PM > > To: "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" > cc: , Doug Wilkerson/Birmingham/IBM@IBMUS > Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! > > > > At 9:18 PM -0600 2/9/00, Brad and Kendra Nicholson wrote: > > >The Short Version: > > > >My thanks to you Doug for taking such good care of the bike and offering > me > >a great deal on it. My compliments to the GIVI folks for their > outstanding > >top box. And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great > >handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a > >wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. > > > > > Welcome to the list Brad, and congratulations on picking up Doug's > bike. I feel honored having my name mentioned in your post, but > unfortunately I don't deserve it. The handlebar bag is the > brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this list. He came up with the > idea, has them made to his spec, and sells them to other list members > at a decent price. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I do > own one though. I'm not sure why Doug would have thought I was > involved, but I figure he was tired at 1:30 in the morning and since > he had just come back from Canada, maybe his Canadian friends were on > his mind! > > Either way...welcome to the list. Any friend of Doug's is a friend of > mine. Hopefully we can meet up some day. > > Ride safe. > > fsl > > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ed & Sharon Appler" To: "Pacific Coast owners" , "Brad and Kendra Nicholson" Subject: Re: PC800: Taller windshield Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:00:11 -0600 Hello Brad, I installed a Rifle windshield on my PC and love it. I got the 24 inch model. It has a 4 inch base, which makes it taller than I thought it would be. I'm 5'10" and the top of the windshield is even with the top of my head. Somewhat disconcerting at first, but I've grown to love it. Very quiet and comfortable. Sometimes the low pressure bubble behind it forces me forward somewhat uncomfortably, but with the installation of a Givi Maxi Trunk, that effect seems diminished. I got a tinted windshield and am glad of it. Riding to work in the mornings, I stare directly into the sun. The windshield, my dark visor on my helmet, and my sunglasses make the experience tolerable. Haven't ridden in the rain yet, but the windshield did well in the snow (unplanned.) My two cents. Ed & Sharon Appler Conway, Arkansas 89 PC800 78 XS1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Breathing again.... Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:17:13 PST As you probably ascertained from the Subject line, I'm happy (very happy!) to report that the Stealth is once again on the road. Hmmm, maybe I'd better revise that. The Stealth is once again RIDING on the road! Gary called in the morning and gave me the good news, and I conned (well, bribed) my son Todd to come down to Newberg and give me a ride up to his shop. Since I didn't get there until after 4:00PM I knew that I wouldn't have much light left for any extracurricular riding beyond the ride back home. That ended up working out well anyway, since I could use the 40 miles (well...it wasn't quite STRAIGHT home!) to scrub in the new tires. So I found an excuse to run some "errands" today and put her threw her paces on back roads and the Interbore in a 100-mile test run. And..I'm thrilled to report..she feels like a new bike! Anyone who's had a PC for any length of time and has had to strip the skin off a few times knows how many fasteners go bad and how many rubber grommets get lost or broken. The Stealth is totally tight again. And since Gary did a total carb clean in preparation for the new carb tube mountings--including freeing up a sticky choke, she is purring! And now--I'll own up to something--her carbs have never been synched. Just didn't feel the need. And when Gary got done, he went to synch the carbs--and they didn't need to be! He said he went ahead and made a minor adjustment just to feel like he had done something, but he was amazed that after 108K they were right on. I've been out of the saddle for four months, so I will say with all total humility that now--for the first time--I know exactly how everyone out there who lives in the Snow Belt feels. As I was riding down the road today I was thinking to myself...okay, you're a 53-year-old reasonably intelligent and reasonably adult person...and you've got a big grin on your face like when you were 12 years old and you got your first full-sized bicycle for Christmas! Ah, hell, who cares? I'm The King Of The World! I'd like to once more put in a plug for the shop who gave me such professional work at such a reasonable price: Cycle Metrics, Inc. Gary Black, Owner 10410 N.W. Thompson Rd. Portland, Oregon 97229 (503) 292-5510 If you're ever in the Portland area and have a problem, give Gary a call. He's the best...! Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 107,940 Miles and Havin' Fun Again! "It’s paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn’t appeal to anyone". - Andy Rooney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:29:20 -0800 To clean my Clearview, I use either soap & water or spray lemon furniture wax, like "Lemon Pledge". I have used this for all of my bike (paint, chrome, plastic) over the years for a quick clean up & shine. The wax does not last long, but it has never seem to hurt anything and is quick, cheap, and easy to get. Don't ask me why the "lemon" part, but I have used spray furniture wax without the lemon and there was a difference, so I just make sure it says lemon. Same price. There is also spray cleaner made just for plastics that you can buy at motorcycle or automotive parts stores, just more expensive. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 11:40 AM Subject: PC800: windshield cleaners >What do you use to clean a Clearview windshield ?? The info sheet says not to >use alcohol based cleaners such as glass cleaner. I had planned just to use >windex as I have always used on eveything else. They gave me a little bottle >of "showbike" to clean it, I guess I will have to check around to see where I >can get more. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:35:33 -0800 The logo looks great, except that the bike is the wrong color. (Here we go again) ;-) Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:16 PM Subject: Re: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! >> http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pc800;list > >I made a PC800 webring logo, based on the ST1100 webring >logo that on my sites are linked to a random other site of the >PC webring. You can copy the picture from my site: >http://fly.to/emile or >http://go.to/pc800 > >This is the html code when the picture is saved in a folder >called images: >PC800 WebringWIDTH="90" HEIGHT="90"> > >The URL http://nav.webring.org/cgi-bin/navcgi?ring=pc800;random >will link to a random other PC webring site. > >Of course you still need to have the other html code links to >be able to stay on the ring, I just thought the webring logo >might be nicer and more attractive. >Comments are welcome, > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" >http://fly.to/emile >http://go.to/pc800 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:08:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:08:47 EST Subject: PC800: Neon To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ahah! http://www.softneon.com/store.htm These folks may provide the best solution.... Anyone dealt with them? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by horizon2.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 10:38:43 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Lohan Johnson" Cc: "PC800 group" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Lohan ...the one with shoes.... Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 17:39:19 PST So good to hear you are back on the list for a while, yes heard Kruger = under H2O on the radio yesterday! Thanks for the IDOL comment....as you see trying to get a USA job for a = while, to get ANOTHER Cadillac.....not that I use the one I have. Men are dummies. Hope to do Vietnam, Cambodia and North Europe after easter......4/5 month= s if the $$ last,... Honda 250s rent for $5 usa/day in Cambodia! Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! AFRICA trip and USA trip 1999....with photos now at www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch > > Nice to be back on the list, special hi's to Tim Davies (intercoms work= ing > ok, _still_ saving up for proper helmets to fit them on!), Arvid (somed= ay > I'll join you in Norway for a li'l breakfast run still), Emile (jou hum= or is > uitstaande!) and Ron Grant (my idol as far as motorcycle lifestyles go!= ). > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:32:09 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: One Hundred Thirteen Pacific Coasts! Hello all! Where will you ever see 113 Pacific Coasts together? In the Big PC Maint & Repair Database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ You can use the Database to do research on maintenance and repair information for different years of bike, on what accessories the owners of 113 bikes have added, how much people have been paying for their bikes or parts or accessories, or what brands of windshields and tires PC owners are using. Or, you can use the database to store your own records! If you put your maint records in, you can fetch just your records back to view and add to your maint log at any time. If you're not already a happy user of the database, check it out, and let me know what you think! -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: From: "Doug" Subject: PC800: prayer for all of us Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:57:25 -0800 << Dear Lord, > > So far today, I am doing all right. > I have not gossiped, lost my temper, been greedy, > grumpy, nasty,selfish, or self indulgent. > I have not whined, bitched, cursed, or eaten any > chocolate. > I have not charged anything to my credit card. > However, > I am going to get out of bed in a few > minutes, and I will need a > lot more help after that. > > Amen. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Tim Macy" , Subject: Re: PC800: Breathing again.... Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:43:31 -0800 > I've been out of the saddle for four months, so I will say with all total > humility that now--for the first time--I know exactly how everyone out there > who lives in the Snow Belt feels. As I was riding down the road today I was > thinking to myself...okay, you're a 53-year-old reasonably intelligent and > reasonably adult person...and you've got a big grin on your face like when > you were 12 years old and you got your first full-sized bicycle for > Christmas! Congratulations, Tim, on the ultimate reward for patience--a ride on your own bike. We snowbeltians whine and moan a bit but as you pointed out, we know something that year-round riders don't: The incredible elation of that first ride of the year after demothballing the bike. There is nothing to compare. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo con Brio" (requesting approval for amending the name) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:05:33 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: Daniel MacKay CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: One Hundred Thirteen Pacific Coasts! Daniel, you da man. The database is extremely useful. Keep up the good work. Tony Daniel MacKay wrote: > > Hello all! > > Where will you ever see 113 Pacific Coasts together? In the Big PC Maint & > Repair Database at > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > > You can use the Database to do research on maintenance and repair > information for different years of bike, on what accessories the owners of > 113 bikes have added, how much people have been paying for their bikes or > parts or accessories, or what brands of windshields and tires PC owners are > using. > > Or, you can use the database to store your own records! If you put your > maint records in, you can fetch just your records back to view and add to > your maint log at any time. > > If you're not already a happy user of the database, check it out, and let > me know what you think! > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Power Noen cable - I use it! Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:08:45 -0800 Yea, I installed Power Neon Cable on my 95 PC a couple months ago. You can also buy direct from VARAD (the manufacturer) at the address below. 12V - comes with a tiny inverter - very low consumption rate. The cable itself is very uniformally lighted for it's full length. It is 1/10" dia. I have bent it down to R3/16" corners in my installation. Advertized mianly for interior use, but seems completely weatherproof. The product is supposed to last indefinately (the inverter may not). I think the cable is Polypropylene. Even the little inverter is epoxy-potted. Several colors available. The only difficult part was figuring out how to trim the faring without interfering with maintainence access... http://www.varad.com/powerneon.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 11 Feb 00 09:12:57 PST From: Brad Herndon To: Ahall77379@aol.com, KC2ATQ@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: [Re: PC800: windshield cleaners] The Honda brand spray can wax/cleaner works great. Gets dirt, bugs etc.= in seconds, plus you can use it on the entire bike. No residue. My .02. Brad. Ahall77379@aol.com wrote: Use KIT Carnuba wax. You can get ut anywhere and use it on the entire bik= e, = windshield too. Can't get that road tar off of the plastic louvers just b= elow the radiator? Use citrus based cleaner. It's got 1000 uses and wiil not h= arm = the paint. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FPS1NW00.362 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:52:44 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WebRing for Honda Pacific Coast websites growing fast! Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:48:07 +0100 I updated the PC webring logo picture on my sites so people with non-white backgrounds can also use it now. The area around the round logo is now transparent. I suggest to link the logo (since it says "click here") to: http://nav.webring.org/cgi-bin/navcgi?ring=pc800;random Again the code I use to link the new picture (in a folder called images) to previous URL: PC800 Webring Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pc800;list -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EYKMHPJ2; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:24:00 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:25:26 -0600 Subject: PC800: 96 PC FOR SALE From: Jim M SMITH While on a great mid-Febuary 190 mile ride thru the Ozarks we stopped at the Honda Dealer in Neosho Missouri for a break He has a 96 PC with 28000 miles, new rear tire,regular screen with Saeng Stealth Edging, Midland 3 in 1 (Model 75-805) Radio/CB, GIVI E460 box, appears to be well taken care of, was local trade in on GoldWing,(Dealer has number of owner) he is asking 4200. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:27:02 -0500 To: Jeff Krause From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Power Noen cable - I use it! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:08 AM -0800 2/11/00, Jeff Krause wrote: >Yea, I installed Power Neon Cable on my 95 PC a couple months ago. >You can also buy direct from VARAD (the manufacturer) >at the address below. Hi Jeff. Have you got any pictures? What color did you go with for the 95? Curious in Canada... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Krause To: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Power Noen cable - I use it! Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:00:00 -0800 Marker lighting seems to always be orange (on cars & trucks), so I bought the 10'orange kit. Some other color may look better with the blk/slvr scheme? Seems quite bright at night, yet disappears in daylight. Looks Bright orange when lit at night, more redish in daylight. No one has tried to move into my lane at night since installed. No pictures yet. Jeff K. At 9:08 AM -0800 2/11/00, Jeff Krause wrote: >Yea, I installed Power Neon Cable on my 95 PC a couple months ago. >You can also buy direct from VARAD (the manufacturer) >at the address below. Hi Jeff. Have you got any pictures? What color did you go with for the 95? Curious in Canada... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:02:15 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC list Subject: Re: [Re: PC800: windshield cleaners] Let me just chime in with a reminder, especially for new owners. The 1997 and 1998 PC's DO NOT HAVE a clearcoat finish as the earlier bikes do. Thus using some polishes or waxes that are great for older bikes with pull way too much pigment off your new bike. Honda makes a "Honda Polish" liquid and the spray cleaner/polish. Both of which work very well on our newer bikes and remove little or no pigment. My gripe is they don't do much for shine and don't last long. I have also experimented with a lot of different car polishes, most of which will leave a very red rag. I found Meguires Gold Class is ok, not too much pigment lost. I also found Meguires Deep Crystal system (step 2) polish is pretty good. Whatever you use, don't do the whole bike until you try it on a small part first. And if you find a polish to be too hard on your finish, just save if for the four wheelers or others with a clearcoat. Finally, regarding windshields, where this all started, I found a warm bucket of water with just a few drops of liquid dishwashing detergent is great for getting bugs off the bike (using a soft cheese cloth). Give the warm water a chance to work, and they come off easily. The detergent is to break up the natural stickiness of water and let it flow easier, not for cleaning. Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned, Kleenmaster Brillianize is recommended for our shields and works well too. MCN rated it best. Thomas -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: Subject: PC800: Gator - Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:41:54 -0500 to all I was browsing the maint & repair table and saw adding a "Gator" when doing a fork job. What is a "Gator"? Dallas Thomason 89 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, Md -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:51:21 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Gator - Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:52:48 -0600 It is the Rubber accordion looking boots that go around the forks to keep bugs and rocks/dirt from eating up the seals in the forks. They are most commonly seen of dirt bikes. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:41 PM Subject: PC800: Gator - > to all > > I was browsing the maint & repair table and saw adding a "Gator" when doing > a fork job. What is a "Gator"? > > Dallas Thomason > 89 "Perky Pearl" > Silver Spring, Md > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC list Subject: RE: [Re: PC800: windshield cleaners] Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:22:39 -0800 The '96 is also not clearcoated. I also find that the Honda spraycan bike cleaner to work excellent on both the bike and the windshield. Polishes should only be used sparingly on the painted surfaces when trying to remove marring because they are abraisive. Plain wax should be used for protection and shine. I use Meguire's wax after using the Honda spraycan cleaner, and it seems to work pretty well without removing a lot of "red". Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 15k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:39:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:39:02 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Gator - To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I think that this item might actually be referred to as a "gaiter". It's the sort of segmented flexible rubble dealie that's used to cover CV joints on 4x4s.. And is, in fact, the same kinda stuff that you find covering the bottom of the shift lever in sports cars... Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:45:36 -0500 Subject: Re(2): [Re: PC800: windshield cleaners] To: gwta@voyager.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <38A4A307.D323AC98@voyager.net> gwta@voyager.net writes: >Finally, regarding windshields, where this all started, I found a >warm >bucket of water with just a few drops of liquid dishwashing >detergent is >great for getting bugs off the bike (using a soft cheese cloth). >Give >the warm water a chance to work, and they come off easily. The >detergent is to break up the natural stickiness of water and let >it flow >easier, not for cleaning. > >Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned, Kleenmaster >Brillianize >is recommended for our shields and works well too. MCN rated it >best. > >Thomas >-- >93SE (Teal, ya hunh) >95Hannigan That bucket of water and liquid dishwashing detergent is a real pain to take on the road when traveling. Brillianize is my #1 choice and has been for most of my 34 years of having a motorcycle with a windshield. I buy it by the gallon and simply refill the 8 oz. spray bottles. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim Macy" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:30:02 PST Will sez: >To clean my Clearview, I use either soap & water or spray lemon >furniture wax, like "Lemon Pledge". We stopped at a restaurant in eastern Orygun a summer or two ago; while we were there a couple on another bike stopped to eat. We all came out at the same time; there were a bunch of bees flitting about as bees do. A few were hanging around my bike but the other bike had bees all over the front end and windshield. We got to talking to the other couple, trying to figure out why their bike was so attractive. Turns out he carried Lemon Pledge to clean the 'shield, headlight, etc. Do ya think there's a correlation here? Has this happened to anyone else? Tim Macy Newberg, OR '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile 108,000 Miles and Havin' Fun "It's time for the human race to enter the solar system!" - Former VP Dan Quayle discussing a manned mission to Mars. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:50:17 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:50:14 -0800 From: Scott Unsworth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 I've come across an '89 PC with 4000kms in showroom condition. The owner wants $7000 Cdn (about $4800 US). Just wondered what the listers thought about the deal. PCs are very hard to find in Canada as they were only imported for two years, but Im having a difficult time spending 7K for an 11 yr old bike that sold for 5K new as a non-current model. Any advice greatly appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:18:42 -0800 Gee, I thought it was just because I am such a sweet guy....... Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Macy >Will sez: > >>To clean my Clearview, I use either soap & water or spray lemon >>furniture wax, like "Lemon Pledge". > >We stopped at a restaurant in eastern Orygun a summer or two ago; while we >were there a couple on another bike stopped to eat. We all came out at the >same time; there were a bunch of bees flitting about as bees do. A few were >hanging around my bike but the other bike had bees all over the front end >and windshield. We got to talking to the other couple, trying to figure out >why their bike was so attractive. Turns out he carried Lemon Pledge to clean >the 'shield, headlight, etc. > >Do ya think there's a correlation here? Has this happened to anyone else? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:07:50 -0500 To: "Tim Macy" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:30 PM -0800 2/11/00, Tim Macy wrote: > We all came out at the same time; there were a bunch of bees >flitting about as bees do. A few were hanging around my bike but the >other bike had bees all over the front end and windshield. We got to >talking to the other couple, trying to figure out why their bike was >so attractive. Turns out he carried Lemon Pledge to clean the >'shield, headlight, etc. > >Do ya think there's a correlation here? Has this happened to anyone else? > >Tim Macy ...mind your own "Bee's Wax"... he he he...sorry...couldn't resist it Tim! You set me up perfectly! I 'Pledge' to not insult you again so that you can 'shine' in your circle of friends..... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:27:43 -0500 To: scottu@direct.ca, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 At 09:50 PM 2/11/00 -0800, you wrote: >I've come across an '89 PC with 4000kms in showroom condition. The owner >wants $7000 Cdn (about $4800 US). Just wondered what the listers thought >about the deal. PCs are very hard to find in Canada as they were only >imported for two years, but Im having a difficult time spending 7K for >an 11 yr old bike that sold for 5K new as a non-current model. Any >advice greatly appreciated. > >I bought my 89 2 years ago for $5500 Cdn...seller could of easily have gotten at least $6000 as there were 4 other guys interested in the bike at the time.He just gave me the chance to buy it first due to circumstances. It had 11000 kms,all original and show room condition also...think of it as buying a classic car...worth more now then when they first came out. Also depends on how bad you want it. Greg Castle 89 PC800 Keswick,Ontario,Canada Cheers!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:45:21 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: scottu@direct.ca Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) scottu@direct.ca writes: >I've come across an '89 PC with 4000kms in showroom condition. The >owner >wants $7000 Cdn (about $4800 US). Just wondered what the listers >thought >about the deal. PCs are very hard to find in Canada as they were >only >imported for two years, but Im having a difficult time spending 7K >for >an 11 yr old bike that sold for 5K new as a non-current model. Any >advice greatly appreciated. > Since it sounds like all the '89 Pacific Coasts need to have their stator replaced after a specific number of kms of use, I think the seller should deduct the price of the stator + installation from the selling price if he has not had the repair already done. Not having an '89 I don't know the specifics of the replacement, but it's all in the archives of the list and probably on the Big PC Maint & Repair Database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:49:47 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: windshield cleaners To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) You really need to get out more often Francois. This cold Canadian winter, with no winter vehicle of your own, must have given you terminal cabin fever:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >At 9:30 PM -0800 2/11/00, Tim Macy wrote: > >> We all came out at the same time; there were a bunch of bees >>flitting about as bees do. A few were hanging around my bike but >the >>other bike had bees all over the front end and windshield. We got >to >>talking to the other couple, trying to figure out why their bike >was >>so attractive. Turns out he carried Lemon Pledge to clean the >>'shield, headlight, etc. >> >>Do ya think there's a correlation here? Has this happened to >anyone else? >> >>Tim Macy > > >...mind your own "Bee's Wax"... > > >he he he...sorry...couldn't resist it Tim! You set me up >perfectly! > > >I 'Pledge' to not insult you again so that you can 'shine' in your >circle of friends..... > >fsl :-) > > >*** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > >1. > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Gators ...or gaiters. My theory about why street bikes lost these useful features is that an Italian firm, Ceriani, made drop dead beautiful naked forks in the 60's. Everybody wanted the Ceriani look, and designers of street bikes started leaving off the protective metal shrouds or rubber gaiters that used to be part of the design of telescopic forks. The result is that the fork tube sits out in the open, where it can get hit by flying pebbles and insects. Dried insect parts do a pretty good job of tearing up fork seals, which may explain why so many street bikes develop leaky seals by 20,000 miles or so. You can help the situation by wrapping a wet paper towel or strip of cloth around the fork tube after a long trip. Leave it there for 10 or 15 minutes to soften the bug goop. Then remove, and rub some WD40 or silicone spray into the metal of the fork tubes. This is also a good step to take if you lay a bike up for winter storage, except be more generous with the lubricant to fend off rust. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:10:10 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Gators To: libssd@emory.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 2/12/00 6:02:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, libssd@emory.edu writes: << Dried insect parts do a pretty good job of tearing up fork seals, which may explain why so many street bikes develop leaky seals by 20,000 miles or so. >> Knock on wood, but I still have the original fork seals in my PC with 67K on the bike. I was just wondering how many of you out there have had to replace their seals? And if so, at what mileage? I dont remember David Little saying that he has ever replaced his, and last time we heard from him his machine was getting close to 250,000 miles. I certainly am not ever looking forward to ever having to do this job because it really looks like it will be no fun at all. Anyone? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:17:20 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Gators At 9:10 12/2/00, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > I was just wondering how many of you out there have had to replace >their seals? And if so, at what mileage? The research is quick! Surf up http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and select the "Front End" subsystem, hit "Show Me" for all work on the front wheel including fork seals. Or you can do a report on the word "seal". -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EYMRXD3Z; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:19:53 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: timbmacy@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:17:36 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners From: "Harvey P. Sattin" Tim, Sometimes immediately after cleaning my PC with the Honda Spray Polish, the bees are attracted to it for about the first 20 minutes or so in the sun. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA (The snow's melting!) http://members.xoom.com/hsattin/pc800.htm On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:30:02 PST "Tim Macy" writes: > We stopped at a restaurant in eastern Orygun a summer or two ago; > while we > were there a couple on another bike stopped to eat. We all came out > at the > same time; there were a bunch of bees flitting about as bees do. A > few were > hanging around my bike but the other bike had bees all over the > front end > and windshield. We got to talking to the other couple, trying to > figure out > why their bike was so attractive. Turns out he carried Lemon Pledge > to clean > the 'shield, headlight, etc. > > Do ya think there's a correlation here? Has this happened to anyone > else? > > Tim Macy > Newberg, OR > '94 Honda PC800 - The StealthMobile > 108,000 Miles and Havin' Fun > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: RVPC800@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Gators On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > Knock on wood, but I still have the original fork seals in my PC with 67K on > the bike. I was just wondering how many of you out there have had to replace > their seals? And if so, at what mileage? I dont remember David Little saying > that he has ever replaced his, and last time we heard from him his machine > was getting close to 250,000 miles. I certainly am not ever looking forward > to ever having to do this job because it really looks like it will be no fun > at all. Anyone? The retro front fender on the PC has a raised section that deflects a fair amount of goop away from the fork tubes, so PC seals may last longer. On the other hand, because the fork tubes are relatively hidden, I suspect PC owners don't pay much attention to cleaning them. All it takes to ruin an oil seal is one well-hardened piece of bug chitin or a rust blister. It can happen at 20,000 miles or not until well after 100,000. Generally a failing seal reveals itself by leaving a small black ring of oil/rubber on the fork tube. Within a few thousand miles after this starts, it's likely to start spewing oil at a much higher rate -- with some risk that the stuff will drip onto the front brake pads or disks. Replacing seals isn't too bad, although the PC makes it a little more work because you have to pull a fair amount of bodywork. Once the fork legs are off, pry loose the dust seal with a screwdriver, remove a snap ring, and at the bottom end, remove an allen screw. Then you repeatedly push pull on the two parts (tube and slider) until the seals pop out from the sliders. The good news is that -- if you avoid labor costs -- the parts are relatively cheap. The bad news is that it's hard to avoid making a mess; slippery fork oil tends to get all over the place. I replaced the seals on my Hawk a couple of years ago with about 4 hours' effort and less than $50 in parts, including seals and slider bushings. Parts for a PC should cost about the same, since both bikes have similar generic Showa 41 mm damper rod forks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:07:31 EST Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us, KC2ATQ@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I will second "Brillianize" as the best plastic polish available. You can find your nearest dealer by calling (800) 445-9344. Bernie 94 PC 59K Overland Park, Ks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Beau Williams" To: "pc" Subject: PC800: Okay, my turn... Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:24:50 -0800 Hi, all. Sorry for the delay, but I got a new job at the same time I got my PC, = so I didn't have the mental energy to write this before! Here's how I came to join your group. My first bike was a "Honda 90", a small bike which can go 30 mph against = the wind and uphills. It was all I could afford at the time, so I drove = it to high school and just put up with all the laughs from the "real = men". After I could afford a larger bike, but not a car yet, I moved up to a = Yamaha RD350 (used). At the time, an article had just come out touting = how the 350 had beaten Kawasaki 750s in short tracks, so the Kawi's kept = coming up beside me on stop lights revving their engines to challenge = me. (Didn't know why for a long time.) Although the 2-cylinder/2-stroke = RD is definitely not meant for touring, I took my girlfriend (90 pounds = sopping wet) all the way to Sacramento on it for a bowling tournament. = (THAT gave me my first real taste of motorcycle touring.) Later, I ended up with my first NEW bike. A black Honda CB 550K. Paid = extra for saddlebags and a fairing. (The saddlebags were white so I had = to paint them!) While I used it mostly for commuting, I did take it San = Francisco along PCH once, and I took my mom to Las Vegas on it. (She = loved the trip.) Ended up selling it to my Dad shortly before getting = married to lessen my monthly payment burden. No motocycling for several years. Total withdrawl. Had to go to a = motorcycle therapist. Received counseling while wearing a helmet in = front of a wind machine. Then, I got a bonus payment from work and decided to spend it on a = motorcycle. Looked long and hard at the '89 PCs, but couldn't afford = them, so I ended up with a new '89 Honda Shadow VLX (A cruiser). It was = a beautiful burgundy and I got a helmet to match, so I felt pretty cool. = =20 Well, 2 weeks ago, I ended up working for someone in the L.A. basin, = which meant I was the proud owner of a 90-120-minute daily commute. Our = cars are both 10 years old and ailing, and I didn't want to make = 10-year-old cruiser more comfortable for the commute (new seat, etc), = so, I started looking for my dream, the PC800. It's not easy looking for used PCs. Every time I saw one on the web, it = was gone by the time I wrote down the contact information. Considered = buying one from a guy in Galveston, Texas (I was looking forward to the = trip back), but kept looking for something local due to lack of time. = (He's still selling his by the way - nice guy. Sent me pictures and = answered all my questions. He's at GaryWOTR@aol.com) I started calling dealers and none of them had any. But, taking the = advice of one of the listers, I kept calling until I found "Berts = Motorcycle Mall" in Azuza, CA. An absolutely HUGE place, with more than = 600 used bikes and 300 new ones. They not only had a PC800, but they = had two of them. Both black '94s. I tooled over there on my Shadow, = and traded it in for the PC with the lower mileage (8,700). =20 I'm now as happy as a stink bug on his first date. The commute is nice = and easy, and I'm trying to talk my wife into a trip to Vegas. I also = hope to join the big trip down PCH in September (it's during my = birthday!) Thanks for reading this far. See ya on the road... Beau Williams '94 PC 800 "Darth Beau" Ventura County, CA "If you can't learn to laugh at yourself...someone else will do it for = you."=20 (90 pounds sopping wet) all the way to Sacramento on it for a bowling=20 tournament.  (THAT gave me my first real taste of motorcycle=20 touring.)
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Later, I ended up with my first NEW = bike.  A=20 black Honda CB 550K.  Paid extra for saddlebags and a = fairing.  (The=20 saddlebags were white so I had to paint them!)  While I used it = mostly for=20 commuting, I did take it San Francisco along PCH once, and I took my mom = to Las=20 Vegas on it.  (She loved the trip.)  Ended up selling it to my = Dad=20 shortly before getting married to lessen my monthly payment = burden.
 
No motocycling for several years.  = Total=20 withdrawl.  Had to go to a motorcycle therapist.  Received = counseling=20 while wearing a helmet in front of a wind machine.
 
Then, I got a bonus payment from work = and decided=20 to spend it on a motorcycle.  Looked long and hard at the '89 = PCs, but=20 couldn't afford them, so I ended up with a new '89 Honda Shadow VLX (A=20 cruiser).  It was a beautiful burgundy and I got a helmet to match, = so I=20 felt pretty cool. 
 
Well, 2 weeks ago, I ended up working = for someone=20 in the L.A. basin, which meant I was the proud owner of a 90-120-minute = daily=20 commute.  Our cars are both 10 years old and ailing, and I didn't = want to=20 make 10-year-old cruiser more comfortable for the commute (new seat, = etc), so, I=20 started looking for my dream, the PC800.
 
 
I started calling dealers and none of = them had=20 any.  But, taking the advice of one of the listers, I kept calling = until I=20 found "Berts Motorcycle Mall" in Azuza, CA.  An absolutely HUGE = place, with=20 more than 600 used bikes and 300 new ones.  They not only had a = PC800, but=20 they had two of them.  Both black '94s.  I tooled over there = on my=20 Shadow, and traded it in for the PC with the lower mileage = (8,700). =20
 
I'm now as happy as a stink = bug on his=20 first date.  The commute is nice and easy, and I'm trying to talk = my wife=20 into a trip to Vegas. I also hope to join the big trip down PCH in = September=20 (it's during my birthday!)
 
Thanks for reading this far.  See = ya on the=20 road...
 
Beau Williams
'94 PC 800 "Darth = Beau"
Ventura=20 County, CA
"If you can't learn to laugh at = yourself...someone=20 else will do it for you." 
 
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:37:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:37:43 EST Subject: PC800: Handle Bar Bag To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Neil, how to I order one of your handle bar bags? Bernie 94 PC 59K OverlandPark, Ks air-yd05.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:30:18 -0500 rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:30:00 -0500 <002001bf733c$46c21620$71d61ec4@METROPOLIS.CO.ZA> <00fe01bf7377$befb35a0$1d561ed1@codybear> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:30:56 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: A Pacific Coast at Last! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 9:02 AM -0800 2/10/00, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >The New Guy, Brad, sez: > > > >>>And finally thanks to Francois for putting together the great >>>handlebar bag. It holds a pocket-sized road atlas, and sunglasses, and a >>>wallet, and gloves, and... quite well. >>> >> > >And Old News Francois says: > > >>The handlebar bag is the brainchild of Neil Thompson, also of this >>list. He came up with the idea, has them made to his spec, ... > > >Neill makes them himself! Shows how much YOU know! > >Betty Lise Anderson, Associate Professor Wow! They are just *SO* well made that I assumed that they were made by RKA or Chase Harper! Yeah...that's the story... that's what it is.... that, and the fact that my memory is starting to go at my age.... Thanks Betty Lise.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:57:45 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: "Harvey P. Sattin" CC: timbmacy@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners "Harvey P. Sattin" wrote: > > Tim, > > Sometimes immediately after cleaning my PC with the Honda Spray Polish, > the bees are attracted to it for about the first 20 minutes or so in the > sun. > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:30:02 PST "Tim Macy" > writes: > ; there were a bunch of bees flitting about as bees do. A > > few were > > hanging around my bike but the other bike had bees all over the > > front end > > and windshield. Maybe the bees are hanging around because somebody has the hives. -Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EYM9NQEH; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:54:45 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: neillnsteph@hotmail.com, aspiring1@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:58:11 -0700 Subject: PC800: PROgressive & CON PCee INSURANCE: 1) ALLSTATE (Arizona), Tel. 480-497-8883 (Amy or Craig) 3-Bike Discount 2 older drivers w/ clean records 2 PCees (89 & 90) + '85 Nighthawk 700-S Only one has safety course discount. $264 a year per PCee AFTER $26.50 one-time policy fee. 15/30 Bod Injury 25 Prop Dam 15/30 Uninsured & Underinsured Mot. 15/30 Guest Liab 250 Deduct Collision 100 Deduct Comprehensive 1000 Optional Equip 2) PROGRESSIVE (Arizona) Tel. 800-888-7764 2 PCees (89 & 90) ('85 Nighthawk priced separately) $330 per year per PCee Same coverage as above except: 250 Deduct Collision 250 Deduct Comprehensive 100 Deduct Custom Parts (up to 1000) 3) PROGRESSIVE: Reduced the discount given for Safety Course. Verbally (over phone) offered a 5% discount for HRCA membership and sent me a refund check for $44 of my $659 (that was for two PCees) for HRCA. This all happened within a week of my phone call and faxing them a copy of my HRCA card. SURPRISE ENDING: This morning, they sent me a letter saying OOPS! we goofed (um er accidentally lied to you). We really don't offer a discount for HRCA membership. They did not say which organizations they do offer a discount for either. They ended the letter by writing, "We hve made a one time exception to honor this discount effective your renewal dae of 02/12/00." 4) Allstate quoted me an add'l $14 a year to increase limits plus several other options for nominal fees. 5) SIDE NOTE: A machinist client made me a gift of two sets of brackets to mount hwy pegs on the front crash bars. Chuck Chiodini has a set and they're GREAT! They were made according to Jim Randall's write up on Neill's PC800 Website which included a detailed diagram. David Smith will check 'em out on Red Cloud late this afternoon. To be continued.... Back to the rock pile. (She complained silently.) Ann '89 PC-AZ, Ghost Coast '90 PC-AZ, Red Cloud Rising Sat. 2.12.2000 Noon MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:11:57 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:14:19 -0600 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners To: Tim Macy Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail I have used Lemon Pledge while polishing our dining room furniture in the back yard (don't ask) and had a similar problem with bees hanging around me and the polish. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Academic Transfer and Articulation Fax: 901 678-5367 The University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu 402 Jones Hall Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: windshield cleaners Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:50:53 -0800 I got to thinking about the Lemon Pledge and attracting bees. I had used the same thing also on my police bike and often had a collection of bees (usually yellow jackets) that hung around me every time I stopped. I never thought about it being the Lemon Pledge attracting them, it was probably on my hands too. At first I was a little nervous, but they never brother me other than crawling along my arms & helmet, so I just continued with what I was doing (writing tickets). The bees did cause the stopped drivers to be nervous, but I just dismissed them and told them they just seem to like me a lot. Now thinking more about it, I should have told the drivers that they were "police bees" that rode with me since the German shepherd was too big for the saddlebag. Don't mess with me, or else the "police bees" would be over you. So the moral of the story, if you use Lemon Pledge on your bike in the summer time, no body will mess with your stuff. Will Edwards rstar@aa.net http://www.crosswinds.net/~cyclewill/ Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David L. Sigsbee >I have used Lemon Pledge while polishing our dining room furniture in >the back yard (don't ask) and had a similar problem with bees hanging >around me and the polish. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:25:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:25:00 EST Subject: PC800: Spare parts to carry To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I know it cold and there is snow on the ground but I am thinking about riding. I am planing to take a few longer trips this year so I thought I would check the spare parts I carry to see if I had a good supply. I carry a Honda PC tool kit, a roll of black elec tape, half roll of duck tape to save on room, about 4 feet of wire, and a few wire ties. my can of flat fix (which you all know about) and a small first aid kit., plus the two fues under the seat, I keep up on the bike, checking and replacing things at home so that when I am on the road I enjoy the ride instead of fixing the bike. I feel that is a honor for the Harley riders that we all pass on the side of the road. I would like to know what other Costers carry and why ? I was thinking about main fues, hoses, headlight, spare plug. etc. But I really want to hear from the season PC rider. A dirt biker will tell you spare plugs, Harley guy ...oil. But what do you need for the PC. Most likely nothing because it is such a great motorcycle but someone may have a good idea. I thank you all in advance. This is not the first time I have asked for help. I have always got answers back within hours of asking and all have been great, I thank you all. I have also been checking out some of the members web site. Some of you should work for Honda. You all put a lot of time andf effort into your bikes and it shows. Please be safe out there, hope to meet you all at an event JIM T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40K Givi E-460 Clearview Plus 3 Corbin (on the way) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:32:47 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Spare parts to carry To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > I would like to know what other Costers carry and why ? I was >thinking >about main fues, hoses, headlight, spare plug. etc. But I really >want to hear >from the season PC rider. A dirt biker will tell you spare plugs, >Harley guy >...oil. But what do you need for the PC. Most likely nothing >because it is >such a great motorcycle but someone may have a good idea. I try to carry as little extra as possible and only the things I can't buy somewhere on the road any day of the week. After last year's Americade I added one item to my short list: 1. Brillianize plastic cleaner and 2 soft wash cloths 2. Spare headlight bulb (no other bulbs) 3. Progressive Suspension flat fix kit 4. First Aid kit (small Wal-Mart kit) 5. Spare fuses of all the sizes used on the bike (this is my Americade addition) 6. Small flashlight 7. My Honda Rider's Club of America membership card for free roadside service 24/7 8. Honda tool kit & owner's manual That's it for me and it all fits in the lowest part of my trunk on either side so I still have the rest of the space free. I figure anything else I need can be found some place that is open 7 days a week. The small size fuses used in the fuse block on the left side of the fairing, behind the air vent, are something I learned to carry last June at Americade. The insulating electrical tape I had used on a wire connection in my fairing came loose and the wire would short out on the metal forks somewhere. This kept blowing the headlight fuse when I went over just the right bumps. Fortunately my driving lights go through a different fuse and I still had them to see and be legal. I went through 4 fuses before I found the bad connection. I had to buy these tiny fuses at the Honda dealer south of Lake George, so I bought all 10 he had in stock, now I have 5 spares left. This also taught me to secure that fuse block with a velcro wire wrap so I can access it through the side vent without having to remove the driver's seat and whole side panel. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mailre-vif01.arb1.te.uudial.us.uu.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2000 02:52:54 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Wayden" To: Subject: PC800: Decal Removal Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:56:45 -0600 Looking for tips on removing the pacific coast decals on the trunk w/o = damaging paint. =20 Thanks =20 Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:38:59 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dega.com rankings Has anyone noticed that the PC 800 is now ranked to be the number 1 Sport and Touring bike by Deja.com? Not the most powerful bike but certainly the best to own-wouldn't you say! No surprise if you have ever been part of this list. Where are the H-D's? Last count the first one was 27th. Not so hot. Just a thought. Hmm. Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:54:05 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Dega.com rankings > Has anyone noticed that the PC 800 is now ranked to be the number 1 >Sport and Touring bike by Deja.com? Not the most powerful bike but >certainly the best to own-wouldn't you say! No surprise if you have >ever been part of this list. > Where are the H-D's? Last count the first one was 27th. Not so hot. >Just a thought. Hmm. > >Ron I think all this proves is that more PC800 owners have computers than Harley Owners. And that they have more free time to go to Deja.com and vote repeatedly to push the PC800 higher up the list. Still....it is a better bike! fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Manuel J. Solis" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Dega.com rankings Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:05:35 -0800 I can say for one, since I stored my Harley for the Winter I have more time to play on my computer. Do you think it's because I'm not working on it???? I don't need to tell you which bike I commute on! ;-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Dega.com rankings >> Has anyone noticed that the PC 800 is now ranked to be the number 1 >>Sport and Touring bike by Deja.com? Not the most powerful bike but >>certainly the best to own-wouldn't you say! No surprise if you have >>ever been part of this list. >> Where are the H-D's? Last count the first one was 27th. Not so hot. >>Just a thought. Hmm. >> >>Ron > > >I think all this proves is that more PC800 owners have computers than >Harley Owners. And that they have more free time to go to Deja.com >and vote repeatedly to push the PC800 higher up the list. >Still....it is a better bike! > >fsl :-) > > >*** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > >1. > > > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:30:45 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Spare parts to carry KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > I would like to know what other Costers carry and why ? I was thinking > about main fues, hoses, headlight, spare plug. etc. But I really want > to hear from the seasoned PC rider. For a laundry list of what a seasoned long distance rider carries, see "Ron Major's Tool Kit." It's on the web at: http://www.ironbutt.com/aow/major_tools.htm Ron's list strikes me as overkill, as I would like to have enough room left in my trunk to carry some clothing. Your list is a good starting point, to which I would add: -- Spare key, taped somewhere inside the bodywork. -- Headlight bulb, wrapped in a cardboard or plastic tube. -- Flashlight and a spare set of batteries. A few years ago I found a Hubbellite, model 2202-2A at Home Depot. This runs off 2 AA batteries, has a clip that lets it attach it to any thin surface, and a swiveling head. Clip it to a cap and you get light wherever you look, with both hands free. -- Multitool (Leatherman or the like) I carry a Kershaw multitool, which has locking longnose pliers (a la Vise Grips) and a hack saw blade in addition to the usual tools. Its nylon belt pouch fits into the right channel atop the wheel well (and out of conflict with the pneumatic strut). -- X-treme tape (Written up in February 2000 MCN). Available from Vypar Products, 13100 Manchester Road, St. Louis, MO. 800-817-8968. "The silicone tape will stick only to itself, and only when placed under tension. Once wrapped around an object, it forms a non-conductive, air- and water-tight insulating seal that remains flexible within a temperature range of -60 to 500 degrees F." -- Several large rubber bands. Maybe I'm familiar with these because I work in a library. They are about 1/2" wide, and 10" long. You can fix a lot of things with them. Store in a plastic bag or tube with some talcum powder to keep the rubber from rotting. -- JBWeld -- Loctite 290 (The thin green kind; wicks between parts) -- Some alcohol wipes and a partial roll of paper towels for cleanup (a number of small items can be stored inside the cardboard core of roll). In the left "fairing compartment": -- Small spray bottle of windshield cleaner -- Tube of Blistex -- Sunscreen (SPF30) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:37:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:37:43 EST Subject: Re: PC800: FWD: Golf or PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have a lightweight carry golf bag with an integral stand. It's quite light and convenient. I balance the bag so the bag lays level. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark J. Lucas" To: , Subject: PC800: RE: PROgressive & CON Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 06:15:19 -0800 Importance: Normal There's an additional discount (10%??) for AMA membership from Progressive. I'm paying $324/year in Los Angeles, California. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com [mailto:annreid@juno.com] 2) PROGRESSIVE (Arizona) Tel. 800-888-7764 2 PCees (89 & 90) ('85 Nighthawk priced separately) $330 per year per PCee Same coverage as above except: 250 Deduct Collision 250 Deduct Comprehensive 100 Deduct Custom Parts (up to 1000) 3) PROGRESSIVE: Reduced the discount given for Safety Course. Verbally (over phone) offered a 5% discount for HRCA membership and sent me a refund check for $44 of my $659 (that was for two PCees) for HRCA. This all happened within a week of my phone call and faxing them a copy of my HRCA card. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:26:29 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "Dallas Thomason" Subject: Re: PC800: Gator - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" >I was browsing the maint & repair table and saw adding a "Gator" when doing >a fork job. What is a "Gator"? Probably a gaiter, or fork boot. It's to protect the fork tube from rocks and bugs (makes your fork seals last longer). More common on older bikes, removed for styling purposes on newer bikes. The PC has small deflectors on the fork sliders, above the front fenders, that probably help. I added the Noj neoprene fork protectors (neoprene with cloth on both sides, velocro's on). Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Spare parts to carry Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:16:01 -0500 The only spares part that I carry is a throttle cable and some type of tire repare kit. Most everything else is avalble at a K of Wal mart store. For ease of mind you should join the "Honda Rider's Club" which will provide roadside assistance. Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio (30+ years & 250,000 miles of riding and never been REALLY stranded) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:26 PM Subject: PC800: Spare parts to carry > I know it cold and there is snow on the ground but I am thinking about >riding. I am planing to take a few longer trips this year so I thought I >would check the spare parts I carry to see if I had a good supply. I carry a >Honda PC tool kit, a roll of black elec tape, half roll of duck tape to save >on room, about 4 feet of wire, and a few wire ties. my can of flat fix (which >you all know about) and a small first aid kit., plus the two fues under the >seat, I keep up on the bike, checking and replacing things at home so that >when I am on the road I enjoy the ride instead of fixing the bike. I feel >that is a honor for the Harley riders that we all pass on the side of the >road. > I would like to know what other Costers carry and why ? I was thinking >about main fues, hoses, headlight, spare plug. etc. But I really want to hear >from the season PC rider. A dirt biker will tell you spare plugs, Harley guy >...oil. But what do you need for the PC. Most likely nothing because it is >such a great motorcycle but someone may have a good idea. > I thank you all in advance. This is not the first time I have asked for >help. I have always got answers back within hours of asking and all have been >great, I thank you all. I have also been checking out some of the members web >site. Some of you should work for Honda. You all put a lot of time andf >effort into your bikes >and it shows. Please be safe out there, hope to meet you all at an event >JIM T >Beachwood, NJ >1996 PC 800 >40K >Givi E-460 >Clearview Plus 3 >Corbin (on the way) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:20:31 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spare parts to carry Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:24:07 -0800 I agree that Ron's list was overkill, but he was looking at it from a seasond long distance rider. Ron could fix just about anything that wen't wrong on his bike during a ride. For those that don't know, Ron Major (whom I knew as a good friend) was an Iron Butt winner and one of the most seasoned long distance rider. He had a heart attack on the 1997 Iron Butt and passed away. But he did know is motorcycles! Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: PC800: Re: Spare parts to carry > >KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: > >> I would like to know what other Costers carry and why ? I was thinking >> about main fues, hoses, headlight, spare plug. etc. But I really want >> to hear from the seasoned PC rider. > >For a laundry list of what a seasoned long distance rider carries, see >"Ron Major's Tool Kit." It's on the web at: > > http://www.ironbutt.com/aow/major_tools.htm > >Ron's list strikes me as overkill, as I would like to have enough room >left in my trunk to carry some clothing. Your list is a good starting >point, to which I would add: > >-- Spare key, taped somewhere inside the bodywork. > >-- Headlight bulb, wrapped in a cardboard or plastic tube. > >-- Flashlight and a spare set of batteries. A few years ago I found a > Hubbellite, model 2202-2A at Home Depot. This runs off 2 AA batteries, > has a clip that lets it attach it to any thin surface, and a swiveling > head. Clip it to a cap and you get light wherever you look, with both > hands free. > >-- Multitool (Leatherman or the like) I carry a Kershaw multitool, > which has locking longnose pliers (a la Vise Grips) and a hack > saw blade in addition to the usual tools. Its nylon belt pouch > fits into the right channel atop the wheel well (and out of conflict > with the pneumatic strut). > >-- X-treme tape (Written up in February 2000 MCN). Available from > Vypar Products, 13100 Manchester Road, St. Louis, MO. 800-817-8968. > "The silicone tape will stick only to itself, and only when > placed under tension. Once wrapped around an object, it > forms a non-conductive, air- and water-tight insulating > seal that remains flexible within a temperature range of > -60 to 500 degrees F." > >-- Several large rubber bands. Maybe I'm familiar with these because > I work in a library. They are about 1/2" wide, and 10" long. You > can fix a lot of things with them. Store in a plastic bag or tube > with some talcum powder to keep the rubber from rotting. > >-- JBWeld > >-- Loctite 290 (The thin green kind; wicks between parts) > >-- Some alcohol wipes and a partial roll of paper towels for cleanup > (a number of small items can be stored inside the cardboard core > of roll). > >In the left "fairing compartment": > >-- Small spray bottle of windshield cleaner > >-- Tube of Blistex > >-- Sunscreen (SPF30) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: my aching back:( Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:24:43 -0500 I love my 97 PC800, but it just does not agree with my upper back condition on long rides. Put 200 miles on today and will have to see the chripractor tomorrow:( Now I have less than a years riding, I have never dropped the bike and never will...thinking about moving up to a Voyager or Wing just for the comfort, but that's a bike that is a pig around town, and I am not certain I have the skill level for one yet. 85 on the interstate and donuts on the PC are a snap:) Here's what I need to ask. Any way to make a PC800 sit more like a Wing? I am six feet and I believe if I sat a bit lower the back pain in the upper back would disappear. I sat a Wing at the dealer today and almost bought it, riding it would be sheer comfort. I know Corbin makes a seat, but it does not look that comfy. Any one have similar experience, Corbin seat helping? Or is there another seat manufacturer out there with something better for the PC800? Many thanks! --Dr. Mike Hardee 97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:52:23 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: my aching back:( To: mwhardee@ix.netcom.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) mwhardee@ix.netcom.com writes: >I sat a Wing at the dealer today and almost bought it, >riding it would be sheer comfort. I know Corbin makes a seat, but >it does >not look that comfy. Any one have similar experience, Corbin seat >helping? >Or is there another seat manufacturer out there with something >better for >the PC800? Many thanks! > >--Dr. Mike Hardee >97 PC800 Sitting on a motorcycle seat for a few minutes and riding on one for a couple hours tell different tales of comfort. "Comfy" is what you look for in a lounge chair for your living room, long distance practicality is what's required of a motorcycle seat. I'm about 6'1" and I have been riding motorcycles for 34 years. I have never owned a motorcycle that came with an OEM saddle that was not painful to me. It was more lower butt pain than lower back pain, but the same idea as far as long distance travel is concerned. I now have a Corbin seat on mine (decided on the purchase after the first 600 miles I put on the bike) and the much firmer seat is exactly what I have needed all along. I think Corbin's web site gives an explanation of their construction philosophy so you can check it out there. The "backrest" that is included with their seat is nice because you can adjust it to force yourself into better posture for traveling. It's not a backrest you lean back on like a chair, but one that is practical for a motorcycle seat, more like a butt brace. I'd strongly suggest you find someone in your area with a PC800 and a Corbin seat, then give it a try for yourself. You did not say where in the world you are located, but if you went riding today then I know you are not in my neck of the woods, or I'd offer to bring my Corbin down for you to try. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but it did the trick for me. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:02:31 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners CC: "Ann S. Reid" Subject: PC800: Trailer for sale; report on stuff Hi Coasters, Hope everyone is doing well. Several things I wanted to pass on to everybody: Mileage with Saeng edging & Clearview: It appears that most of the mileage difference I have been seeing is the weather more than anything else. When we got a few quiet days, my mileage climbed back up a bit. My guess at this point is that the Saeng edging might cost a mile per gallon; the Clearview (on the other bike) doesn't change it much, if any, one way or the other. I think I prefer the Clearview just because it leaves me without a solid black line in front of me; i.e., a more open view forward. Cold weather clothing: My old Motoport suits are starting to show their age and they don't make them any more. These were one piece suits that cost $99 and $129 respectively and were worth a good deal more than that as far as I am concerned. I just got a two piece suit from M.A.W. made by Tour Master (their Sport Touring suit). Boy is it nice. Fits great, nice tall collar, warm, big pockets, etc. Only one small complaint: The pants could use a gusset in the crotch area. I rode it in the rain this morning and it seeps a little through the zipper area on the front of the pants. I found that if I stand up and let the puddle out periodically it helps. Costs $108 for each item which is not bad compared to some of the alternatives. It feels about as warm as my heavy suit which is now leaking in the area of a stretched seam in the seat area (no wise comments about dieting, please - grin). The Tour Master is a keeper even if it isn't completely dry. The only other apparel I'm aware of like this for less than $250 is a one piece suit from First Gear for about $150. First Gear also has a two piece version for about $235 from what I understand. The reason I didn't go for the First Gear one piecer is that the insulation appears to be comparable to my lightweight suit; i.e., not heavy enough for my commute at this time of the year. Bike Trailer for Sale: Now that I have two PCs and plan to keep both, I am going to need a larger trailer so that I can carry two bikes. As a result, I am going to put my blue trailer up for sale. It is a 5' x 8' with a 5' wide 4' long tail gate. Great for holding a bike. It has steel sides, a wooden floor, a pipe rail running around the top of the trailer that is great for attaching things. A good bike trailer and/or general utility trailer. I have about $1500 in it; asking $975 for it. The trailer is 3.5 years old. The spare tire is brand new and the mounted tires are in very good shape, as is the trailer. Any interest? I will send photos of the trailer on request or you can see them on the PC 800 site under "Leland's Trailering Special". The bike racks will NOT be included; I will mount them on the replacement. Take care, everyone. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 142,000 miles '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 20,000 miles PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:06:22 EST Subject: Re: PC800: my aching back:( To: mwhardee@ix.netcom.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Mike, Although I have not had the lower back soreness, I do feel the strain there. I really feel it in the upper shoulder/lower neck area. To resolve this I am doing two things. 1) I am going to install a Utipia driver's backrest. I think this will go a long way to making long rides more comfortable.They are at www.utpr.com. I ordered one about 10 days ago and it was supposed to ship this past Friday. I expect to have it on the bike sometime next weekend. BTW- as the riding season/weather improves, Utopia's backorder list gets very long. They make your backrest when it is ordered.You can poll the list for other people whom have them and I think you will hear only positives. I do not want a Corbin due to the fact that there is an adjust knob on the lrft side of the seat which may interfere with my wife's leg. Also, the entire Corbin system, including two backrests is way too expensive. No value there for me. 2) I am going to install handlebar risers which will raise & move back the bar about 1". Go to go.to/PC800 to get a look at these. The price of the backrest is 149.00 plus shipping. The risers are ( I think) 70.00 plus shipping. As a final option, but one I do not think I'll need to resort to, I will remove the driver's seat and have the foam sculpted into a better form( tractor seat style) and then use the original fabric to recover it. Hope this info is usefull. Alan in Houston 89' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:13:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:12:23 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) To: PC800 group Subject: PC800: PC 800: 2 for sale Hi listers. I have 2 PC 800's for sale. Both are in mint condition & meticulously taken care of. First my fathers machine. 1997 PC 800 Stock with the exception of the Honda passenger backrest. Approx. 5,500 miles. great shape. Will be available for purchase around March 15 to April 1. He is in Florida as I type this. The machine can be viewed anytime before this. $6,000 US firm My machine is a 98 PC 800. It too is in great shape also. Approx. 5000 miles on the clock. Sony AM/FM/CD player with wired remote. MTX speakers mounted in the dash, with foam pods behind them. As of this writing I do not have an antennae on it. Tall Honda windshield. Stock shield included also. Honda Passenger backrest. New rear tire. (puncture) Audiovox Electronic cruise control. LCD temperature gauge. LCD clock/stopwatch/voltmeter. The PO removed the Honda & Pacific Coast decals. This machine is available right now. $7,000 US . Both machines Located in North central West Virginia. Can be viewed / ridden anytime as long as the weather permits. Please respond off list. Stan tree@westvirginia.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:16:20 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Mike" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: my aching back:( Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:11:13 -0600 Utopia makes a backrest that helps keep your back arched properly. Corbin makes a seat that looks good and some folks love them, some hate them. (hard seat and bad folks to deal with if you have problems) Russell makes a seat that I have never heard a bad word about. (great folks to deal with)(except that they are ugly) (the seats, not the folks) You can also install an extra set of handlebar hold down clamps, upside down under the bars and install longer bolts which will allow you to move the bars ahead or back so you can sit up straighter or carry more weight on your arms, which ever is more comfy. I have added the Utopia backrest to my bike and I also have the extra clamps. They both helped. I have a Russell (that I adore) on my BMW and I only wish I had the money to put one on my PC. Russell also offers a backrest for their seats which would IMHO be absolutely the best. BTW I have a pinched nerve in my back so I know how you feel. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike" To: "pc800" Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: PC800: my aching back:( > I love my 97 PC800, but it just does not agree with my upper back condition > on long rides. Put 200 miles on today and will have to see the chripractor > tomorrow:( Now I have less than a years riding, I have never dropped the > bike and never will...thinking about moving up to a Voyager or Wing just for > the comfort, but that's a bike that is a pig around town, and I am not > certain I have the skill level for one yet. 85 on the interstate and donuts > on the PC are a snap:) > > Here's what I need to ask. Any way to make a PC800 sit more like a Wing? I > am six feet and I believe if I sat a bit lower the back pain in the upper > back would disappear. I sat a Wing at the dealer today and almost bought it, > riding it would be sheer comfort. I know Corbin makes a seat, but it does > not look that comfy. Any one have similar experience, Corbin seat helping? > Or is there another seat manufacturer out there with something better for > the PC800? Many thanks! > > --Dr. Mike Hardee > 97 PC800 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2000 22:40:14 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:46:37 -0700 From: Bob Coffman To: Ahall77379@aol.com CC: mwhardee@ix.netcom.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: my aching back:( I rode a PC w/ a Utopia backrest and a Hartco sheepskin seat cover 6,000 miles in 16 days. It was very comfortable. Bob Ahall77379@aol.com wrote: > > Mike, > Although I have not had the lower back soreness, I do feel the strain > there. I really feel it in the upper shoulder/lower neck area. To resolve > this I am doing two things. 1) I am going to install a Utipia driver's > backrest. I think this will go a long way to making long rides more > comfortable.They are at www.utpr.com. I ordered one about 10 days ago and it > was supposed to ship this past Friday. I expect to have it on the bike > sometime next weekend. BTW- as the riding season/weather improves, Utopia's > backorder list gets very long. They make your backrest when it is ordered.You > can poll the list for other people whom have them and I think you will hear > only positives. I do not want a Corbin due to the fact that there is an > adjust knob on the lrft side of the seat which may interfere with my wife's > leg. Also, the entire Corbin system, including two backrests is way too > expensive. No value there for me. 2) I am going to install handlebar risers > which will raise & move back the bar about 1". Go to go.to/PC800 to get a > look at these. The price of the backrest is 149.00 plus shipping. The risers > are ( I think) 70.00 plus shipping. As a final option, but one I do not think > I'll need to resort to, I will remove the driver's seat and have the foam > sculpted into a better form( tractor seat style) and then use the original > fabric to recover it. Hope this info is usefull. > > Alan in Houston 89' > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:47:22 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners CC: "Ann S. Reid" Subject: PC800: Trailer for sale - web page Hi Coasters, I set up a page that anyone who is interested