********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive insurance... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Silly? Maybe so, but I can buy 4 years of insurance from Progressive for what Farmers charges me for just 1 year. By the way, sorry to say I've never heard of a layaway policy. I guess thats from spending the last 14 years in Southern California. I'm still running Air Conditioning several hours every afternoon in my office. As far as a constructive suggestion, how about buying a policy from a competitor with a payment plan and letting it lapse after 3 months? John --- "Rich A." wrote: > Called my agent to have Progressive to change my > policy from a 3 month > layaway (12-1 through 2-28) to a year round policy. > We have yet to have > snow here in IL. New record, no snowfall anywhere > in the state for the > month of November! > > Agent calls me back and advises me that Progressive > refused her request to > make the change, and that I should call Progressive > directly. What??? > > I called Progressive and they simply cannot remove a > 3 month layaway from a > motorcycle policy and bill me for the difference (my > agent couldn't do > anything about this at all) and that I have to > either: > > a) Personally cancel my current policy completely, > and have my agent > re-write a new one from scratch. Therefore I have > to make an appointment > with my agent, take time off from work, go in, > cancel old policy, write new > policy, pay to put new policy in effect (even though > old was was paid up > till 7/2000), wait for Progressive to credit me for > unused portion of old > policy, then they have to handle all the additional > paperwork for canceling > the old policy, underwriting and instating the new > policy, issuing the > credit, etc, etc, etc. (a waste of everyone's time > involved...) > > b) Personally cancel my current policy completely, > and have obtain another > one via Progressive directly, cutting my agent out > of the works (and pay > HIGHER rates in getting one directly from > Progressive - does that make sense > anyone?... Higher rates by getting the policy direct > from the company when > there is NO agent involved???) Plus, I have to sign > and fax forms stating > that it is my intention to NOT involve the agent > with the new policy. > > c) Park the motorcycle as of midnight and not ride > till next March. > > Of course, if I had opted for a "year round" policy > 5 months ago, it would > have been snowing by now... > > In 13 years, I have never seen an insurance company > with such a silly > policy. > > I think I will be re-shopping my motorcycle > insurance again. To not be able > to simply modify an existing policy and bill me for > the difference (not to > mention the savings of everyone's time and effort) > is ridiculous. I was > told by Progressive that there is NO way that they > can make ANY changes > whatsoever to a policy unless it is up for renewal. > So when I get married > and want to add my spouse as an additional driver, > guess what happens? > > I will be dumping Progressive next year. They are > not "progressive", they > are definitely more "regressive" > > I just really get miffed at things like this. It > shouldn't be this way! > BTW, it is supposed to be 55 degrees here tomorrow. > > R. Fenwick > Illinois > 1990 PC800L, 23,300 miles > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Rich A." , Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 05:44:02 -0800 Rich and fellow riders: This is a discouraging and amazine report. I have had Progressive for years and all the transitions--adding bikes and subtracting bikes, adding Cushmans (an adventure with most any company, I think), and changing levels of coverage--have been seamless. Changes and adjustments in premiums have been handled by the computer with nary a bimp. (technical insurance word) To the point, I have never altered a layup policy--we always have two weeks of grand riding weather in Jan or Feb---but I would not expect it to be this difficult. I suggest, Rich, that you step through your frustration once briefly and try to get up a layer or two in the echelon and explain your situation. If there is a loyal customer at stake (not threatening, just informing) I would hope that this company would see the wisdom in doing what obviously needs to be done. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:17:50 EST Subject: Re: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag To: fsl@borgconsulting.com, ryan@e-etc.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 11/30/99 8:21:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: << .amateur.... it was under 30 here when I went for my one hour ride! Of course, I was wired up with my Gerbing heated jacket liner, heated riding pants, and heated socks. Oh yeah, I also turned on my Kimpex heated grips! >> Wuss! Went for 3 ride before when it was 18 outside! OK, I did have on my snowmobile suit, with my Widder electric vest on underneath it, and had my Polar mask on under my helmet, and of course my Widder electric gloves were set on "high:. I also had on a pair of thermal boots to help keep the tootsies warm. Was I toasty warm all during the ride? Nope, but was warm enough to keep going. Besides, looking at all of the peoples expressions driving by in their cages was worth it! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:03:37 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:03:34 +0100 >>---------- fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >><< .amateur.... it was under 30 here when I went for my one hour >> ride! Of course, I was wired up with my Gerbing heated jacket > >Wuss! Went for 3 ride before when it was 18 outside! OK, I did have on my >snowmobile suit, with my Widder electric vest on underneath it........... >Russ Vernon Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! HA !! No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a full fairing in the days I still had my XJ600S Diversion (at least it had an air cooled engine I could hug at gas stations....uaaaahhh....). Took me a couple of hours per day to defrost my hands though... E-mile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (installing Hein Gericke heated grips ASAP) http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmermbers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:12:36 -0600 To: "William Machamer" , From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: New Member - Tucson Welcome William... Even though I am in Illinois, I am familiar with Tucson since the Headquarters of the company that I work for is out on Sunrise Drive. I have been to Tucson many times myself. (I always rent convertibles at the airport for my visits, and stay at the Double Tree Hotel on Alvernon Way, across from Reid Park...) :-) The National Park that is north of town in the mountains is a treat. I would love to be able to ride through there on my PC... Beautiful place to visit, I'm sure that you enjoy it there.... I would love to live there. It is SO much nicer than Phoenix (yeah, yeah, flame me!) Welcome to the group. Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800, 23,300 miles At 09:05 PM 11/30/1999 -0700, William Machamer wrote: >Hi Folks, >I just got all joined up via the big Texas computer. > >I am Bill Machamer >Tucson AZ >bmachame@mindspring.com >Just bought a used 1997 PC 800 red, (of course), 11,000 miles, seems to be >in very good condition, drives real nice. >I have already ordered a Rifle extended windshield system for it and it >should be here soon. > >I have owned many different motorcycles in the past 40 years the last ones >were 4 goldwings, 2 -1100's, 1-1200 and 1-1500. I traded in a 1985 Kawasaki >Concours when I bought the PC. > >Looking forward to happy times on my new red bird. >Thanks >Bill > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:26:30 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag > That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, cool glasses of lemonade. > >>---------- > fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: > >><< .amateur.... it was under 30 here when I went for my one hour > > >> ride! Of course, I was wired up with my Gerbing heated jacket > > >Wuss! Went for 3 ride before when it was 18 outside! OK, I did have >on my > >snowmobile suit, with my Widder electric vest on underneath >it........... > >Russ Vernon > > Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! >HA !! > No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a full > fairing in the days I still had my XJ600S Diversion (at least it had >an > air cooled engine I could hug at gas stations....uaaaahhh....). Took >me > a couple of hours per day to defrost my hands though... > > E-mile > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (installing Hein Gericke heated grips ASAP) > http://fly.to/emile > http://go.to/pc800 The listmermbers site, your site... >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:30:45 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! >HA !! > No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a full > fairing ... HA! What a LIGHTWEIGHT! I rode hundreds of miles at MINUS 20, in the snow, with no electrics. Had my ski boots on to keep my feet warm, wore the snow skiis to help keep my balance, and wore inflatable arm and leg splints to keep my arms and legs warm. The skiis worked great ... but it was a little hard to dismount gracefully. And I tell youngsters how it used to be, and do they believe me? Nahhhhh. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:34:45 -0800 You should wear a helmet at all times. I suppose you wouldn't need a headlight modulator for other drivers to notice you. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Betty Lise Anderson >That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark >naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, cool >glasses of lemonade. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:34:33 -0400 To: "William Machamer" , From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: New Member - Tucson Hello Bill and welcome from the east coast of Canada! Welcome to the group. I run the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ it's for people to store their maint and repair records for their own use, and for sharing that info with other PC riders. It would be great to have your bike's purchase, maintenance and repair data in the system, since the more bikes are there, the more useful the database is. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Coverts" To: "Rich A." , Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 08:06:49 -0800 Find a new agent. I've had my motorcycle insurance, Progressive, with two different agents (offices). I have never been to either office. All changes were made by phone and mail. The left over premium was applied to the new policy. More than a phone call less than a personal appearance. Rick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich A." To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:45 PM Subject: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... > Called my agent to have Progressive to change my policy from a 3 month > layaway (12-1 through 2-28) to a year round policy. We have yet to have > snow here in IL. New record, no snowfall anywhere in the state for the > month of November! > > Agent calls me back and advises me that Progressive refused her request to > make the change, and that I should call Progressive directly. What??? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hagar, Ken" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:13:20 +0300 I believe this has mutated into the "First Liar Never Has A Chance" thread. I'd tell you all how cold it was when I rode cold, but I'd just make you jealous. Ken H. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@norloff.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 6:31 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" > Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! >HA !! > No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a full > fairing ... HA! What a LIGHTWEIGHT! I rode hundreds of miles at MINUS 20, in the snow, with no electrics. Had my ski boots on to keep my feet warm, wore the snow skiis to help keep my balance, and wore inflatable arm and leg splints to keep my arms and legs warm. The skiis worked great ... but it was a little hard to dismount gracefully. And I tell youngsters how it used to be, and do they believe me? Nahhhhh. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 10:16:03 -0600 To: "Coverts" , "Rich A." , From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... It's NOT my agent, nor is it her fault. I have spoken with two (2) people at Progressive and the story is the same. The policy cannot be amended to remove the layaway. The old policy must be cancelled and a new one written. I feel sorry for my agent that she has do do all this extra work. Progressive is the problem here... You may have been able to make all sorts of other changes on a Progressive policy, and that's great, but have you successfully removed a layaway without having to re-write a new policy??? Rich Fenwick Illinois At 08:06 AM 12/01/1999 -0800, Coverts wrote: >Find a new agent. I've had my motorcycle insurance, Progressive, with two >different agents (offices). I have never been to either office. All >changes were made by phone and mail. The left over premium was applied to >the new policy. More than a phone call less than a personal appearance. > >Rick >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rich A." >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:45 PM >Subject: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... > > >> Called my agent to have Progressive to change my policy from a 3 month >> layaway (12-1 through 2-28) to a year round policy. We have yet to have >> snow here in IL. New record, no snowfall anywhere in the state for the >> month of November! >> >> Agent calls me back and advises me that Progressive refused her request to >> make the change, and that I should call Progressive directly. What??? >> > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. old policy must be cancelled and a new one written.

I feel sorry for my agent that she has do do all this extra work.  Progressive is the problem here...

You may have been able to make all sorts of other changes on a Progressive policy, and that's great, but have you successfully removed a layaway without having to re-write a new policy???

Rich Fenwick
Illinois




At 08:06 AM 12/01/1999 -0800, Coverts wrote:
>Find a new agent.  I've had my motorcycle insurance, Progressive, with two
>different agents (offices).  I have never been to either office.  All
>changes were made by phone and mail.  The left over premium was applied to
>the new policy.  More than a phone call less than a personal appearance.
>
>Rick
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rich A." <rich@pdnt.com>
>To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:45 PM
>Subject: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy...
>
>
>> Called my agent to have Progressive to change my policy from a 3 month
>> layaway (12-1 through 2-28) to a year round policy.  We have yet to have
>> snow here in IL.  New record, no snowfall anywhere in the state for the
>> month of November!
>>
>> Agent calls me back and advises me that Progressive refused her request to
>> make the change, and that I should call Progressive directly.  What???
>>
>
>
>
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 10:25:21 -0600 To: John La , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive insurance... >By the way, sorry to say I've never heard of a layaway policy. A "layaway" policy is where all coverage (for the exception of comprehensive, for theft or fire, etc. ) is suspended for either 3 or 5 months, during the winter season. I had a 3 month layaway period of 12-1 through 2-28 written into my policy. During this time, coverage to ride is not in effect, only the comprehensive coverage remains. This saves a person about 15-20% over the term of a 12 month policy. This is an option for those of us who have this thing called "winter". (Although we have yet to have any in Illinois...) If I had opted for a full 12 month continuous coverage policy back in July, we would have had snow by now... Rich Fenwick (snowless, so far) Illinois At 12:02 AM 12/01/1999 -0800, John La wrote: >Silly? Maybe so, but I can buy 4 years of insurance >from Progressive for what Farmers charges me for just >1 year. > >By the way, sorry to say I've never heard of a layaway >policy. I guess thats from spending the last 14 years >in Southern California. I'm still running Air >Conditioning several hours every afternoon in my >office. > >As far as a constructive suggestion, how about buying >a policy from a competitor with a payment plan and >letting it lapse after 3 months? > >John > >--- "Rich A." wrote: >> Called my agent to have Progressive to change my >> policy from a 3 month >> layaway (12-1 through 2-28) to a year round policy. >> We have yet to have >> snow here in IL. New record, no snowfall anywhere >> in the state for the >> month of November! >> >> Agent calls me back and advises me that Progressive >> refused her request to >> make the change, and that I should call Progressive >> directly. What??? >> >> I called Progressive and they simply cannot remove a >> 3 month layaway from a >> motorcycle policy and bill me for the difference (my >> agent couldn't do >> anything about this at all) and that I have to >> either: >> >> a) Personally cancel my current policy completely, >> and have my agent >> re-write a new one from scratch. Therefore I have >> to make an appointment >> with my agent, take time off from work, go in, >> cancel old policy, write new >> policy, pay to put new policy in effect (even though >> old was was paid up >> till 7/2000), wait for Progressive to credit me for >> unused portion of old >> policy, then they have to handle all the additional >> paperwork for canceling >> the old policy, underwriting and instating the new >> policy, issuing the >> credit, etc, etc, etc. (a waste of everyone's time >> involved...) >> >> b) Personally cancel my current policy completely, >> and have obtain another >> one via Progressive directly, cutting my agent out >> of the works (and pay >> HIGHER rates in getting one directly from >> Progressive - does that make sense >> anyone?... Higher rates by getting the policy direct >> from the company when >> there is NO agent involved???) Plus, I have to sign >> and fax forms stating >> that it is my intention to NOT involve the agent >> with the new policy. >> >> c) Park the motorcycle as of midnight and not ride >> till next March. >> >> Of course, if I had opted for a "year round" policy >> 5 months ago, it would >> have been snowing by now... >> >> In 13 years, I have never seen an insurance company >> with such a silly >> policy. >> >> I think I will be re-shopping my motorcycle >> insurance again. To not be able >> to simply modify an existing policy and bill me for >> the difference (not to >> mention the savings of everyone's time and effort) >> is ridiculous. I was >> told by Progressive that there is NO way that they >> can make ANY changes >> whatsoever to a policy unless it is up for renewal. >> So when I get married >> and want to add my spouse as an additional driver, >> guess what happens? >> >> I will be dumping Progressive next year. They are >> not "progressive", they >> are definitely more "regressive" >> >> I just really get miffed at things like this. It >> shouldn't be this way! >> BTW, it is supposed to be 55 degrees here tomorrow. >> >> R. Fenwick >> Illinois >> 1990 PC800L, 23,300 miles >> >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe >> pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to >> pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 11:30:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) This is pretty hard to believe Betty Lise... "tall, cool glasses of lemonade" in Alaska, in January! :-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >>That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark >naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, >cool >glasses of lemonade. > >> >>---------- >> fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >> >><< .amateur.... it was under 30 here when I went for my one >hour >> >> >> ride! Of course, I was wired up with my Gerbing heated >jacket > >> >Wuss! Went for 3 ride before when it was 18 outside! OK, I did >have >>on my >> >snowmobile suit, with my Widder electric vest on underneath >>it........... >> >Russ Vernon >> >> Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 >degrees ! >>HA !! >> No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a >full >> fairing in the days I still had my XJ600S Diversion (at least it >had >>an >> air cooled engine I could hug at gas stations....uaaaahhh....). >Took >>me >> a couple of hours per day to defrost my hands though... >> >> E-mile >> '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (installing Hein Gericke heated grips >ASAP) >> http://fly.to/emile >> http://go.to/pc800 The listmermbers site, your site... > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Leonard Berkeley" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:26:56 -0500 > > That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark > naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, cool > glasses of lemonade. > > > >>---------- Can I see you pictures of this ride??????????????/ Leonard ( Lou) Berkley louberk@earthlink.net webpage http://earthlink.net/~louberk/index.html PC 800, CB750, 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado, HSTA, HRC,AMA Life, STOC 110 "The weather is here, I wish you were Beautiful" Jimmy Buffett -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <00d201bf3c21$4737f4a0$fc06153f@rjiredff> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:28:51 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Cc: louberk@earthlink.net Sure, Lou, I have pictures. I'll attach the best one to this message... oh, wait! I forgot! We're not supposed to send pictures to the list. Bandwidth, you know. Darn the luck. > > > That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark > > naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, cool > > glasses of lemonade. > > > > > >>---------- >Can I see you pictures of this ride??????????????/ >Leonard ( Lou) Berkley > louberk@earthlink.net > webpage http://earthlink.net/~louberk/index.html > PC 800, CB750, 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado, HSTA, HRC,AMA Life, STOC 110 > "The weather is here, I wish you were Beautiful" > Jimmy Buffett > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:50:37 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 10:26 AM -0800 12/1/99, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >That's nothing! I rode the TransAlaska Highway, in January, stark >naked, with wet hair, nonstop except for potty stops and tall, cool >glasses of lemonade. > Geeez...there's an image.......first I miss out on the wet T-shirt riding in the Hampton Inn parking lot at the Homecoming, and now I find out about your Alaska run....... I am *never* in the right place at the right time....... ;-) fsl *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <00d201bf3c21$4737f4a0$fc06153f@rjiredff> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:00:50 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, louberk@earthlink.net At 1:28 PM -0400 12/1/99, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >Sure, Lou, I have pictures. I'll attach the best one to this >message... oh, wait! I forgot! We're not supposed to send pictures >to the list. Bandwidth, you know. Darn the luck. > I'm sure Emile can provide a web site, and maybe even a custom domain, like http://goto/ladygodiva hee hee hee... fsl ;-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <00d201bf3c21$4737f4a0$fc06153f@rjiredff> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:19:21 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: Cold riding, was RE: PC800: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag >At 1:28 PM -0400 12/1/99, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >>Sure, Lou, I have pictures. I'll attach the best one to this >>message... oh, wait! I forgot! We're not supposed to send pictures >>to the list. Bandwidth, you know. Darn the luck. >> > > >I'm sure Emile can provide a web site, and maybe even a custom >domain, like http://goto/ladygodiva > Dang, I knew I shoulda thought that through a little more. Cold must be affecting me more than I thought! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: VIRUS ALERT - W32/ExploreZip.worm.pak (fwd) Since there have been a few of these warnings posted to this list in the past, here 'tis. I know and trust the originator of this message. And, I avoid using Microsoft products for mail, in hopes of reducing my exposure to these things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:45:33 -0500 From: W Douglas Seanor To: LOCAL-L@LISTSERV.CC.EMORY.EDU Subject: VIRUS ALERT - W32/ExploreZip.worm.pak VIRUS ALERT Virus Characteristics This is a 32bit Worm that travels by sending email messages to users. It drops the file explore.exe and modifies either the WIN.INI (Win9x) or modifies the registry (WinNT). Information This is a minor variant of the original W32/ExploreZip.worm in that this edition is a compressed copy of the executable. A compression tool named Neolite was used to compress the binary executable that is the worm, preventing detection by existing detections of the original version. This variant runs compressed and is not expanded beyond its compressed form except in memory. The following description and removal method is almost identical to the description for the first variant with regard to file size. This worm attempts to invoke the MAPI aware email applications as in MS Outlook, MS Outlook Express and MS Exchange. This worm replies to all unread and all new messages received by replying to the email message with the following body: "I received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP. Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs. " The subject line is not constant as the message is a reply to a message sent to the infected user. The worm is attached with the file name "zipped_files.exe" as the attachment, with a file size of 120,495 bytes. The file has a Winzip icon which is designed to fool unsuspecting users to run it as a self-extracting file. If the attachment is run, the user will see a fake error message that of the following text: "Cannot open file: it does not appear to be a valid archive. If this file is part of a ZIP format backup set, insert the last disk of the backup set and try again. Please press F1 for help." This worm will locate systems drives which are NOT mapped drives using functions from MPR.DLL and Network Neighborhood! Systems with full access shares on the network could experience the worm creating a copy of itself in two folder locations, and two file names. A file named "EXPLORE.EXE" will be copied to Windows\System folder and a file "_SETUP.EXE" is copied to the Windows folder. On these systems, if the OS is Windows 9x, the WIN.INI is modified with[windows]run=c:\windows\explore.exe (or) _setup.exeThe value will switch between _setup.exe and explore.exe per reboot. On the startup of Windows, it will load this file thereby infecting the system. This worm will only try to such systems once, whereas systems which are mapped drives are constantly attempted to re-infect. On Windows NT systems, the registry is modified with the following key additionHKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windowsrun = explore.exe (or) _setup.exeThe value will switch between _setup.exe and explore.exe per reboot. This worm does not self-check and prevent itself from loading more than once so could have more than one task running. On Windows 9x and Windows NT, it is listed as a task by the file name running, such as "Explore" or "_Setup" or "Zipped_Files". Payload NoticeThis worm has a dangerous payload. Immediately after execution it will search all available local driver from C: to Z: for the following files of extension:.c, .cpp, .h, .asm, .doc, .xls, or .ppt. When found, they are opened for write and immediately closed leaving them with a zero byte count. Approximately in 30 minute intervals, this payload is repeated. ***** These files with zero bytes are unrecoverable! ***** Indications Of Infection Existence of any of the 3 file names mentioned above [note EXPLORER.EXE is a valid name - do not confuse this name]. Process running as mentioned above, files being corrupted / deleted as mentioned above. EXTRA Drivers VirusScan 4 with the 4.0.25 engine (and above). Solomon's AVTK 7.99 and above. Detection and RemovalUse the required DAT referenced to detect this virus in the executable at the local system, and in email attachments using applicable products. If an EXTRA.DAT is used, be sure to stop the running scanning service and the restart it for the DAT file to be applied by the engine.A tool is available from AVERT Tools web page named "killezip.exe". This tool will handle terminating the service as well as locating the copies of the worm, removing the registry entries and removing the entry from the WIN.INI file. Alternatively, manual removal is possible using the instructions below. Terminating the service running at the local machine is the first thing that should be done. After the process is terminated, delete the files which are part of the worm process as listed above. If you are unable to terminate the process using the task list (CTRL-ALT-DEL), use the steps below to manually edit your configuration file on Windows 9x systems.Windows 95/98 1. Run the System Configuration Editor 2. Select the Start menu from your desktop and Run SYSEDIT.EXE 3. Select the C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI window. 4. In the line run =, remove listings that match either of these run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\EXPLORE.EXE run=C:\WINDOWS\_SETUP.EXE 5. Select File > Save, then Exit. 6. Select the Start menu and Shutdown - 7. Choose Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode and click YES (This action purges EXPLORE.EXE from system memory.) 8. Once your PC is in DOS, type EXIT to return to Windows. (This action reloads Windows without EXPLORE.EXE in memory.) 9. In Windows, remove the file, EXPLORE.EXE, from your system 10. Click Start > Find > Files or Folders 11. In the Find: All Files dialog box, type EXPLORE.EXE in the Name field 12. Click Find Now 13. Delete EXPLORE.EXE 14. Repeat step 10 through 13 for both _SETUP.EXE and ZIPPED_FILES.EXE WinNTIn Windows NT, this worm will run as a process by one of the following names - "explore", "zipped_f;", or "_setup;" in WinNT Task Manager. You can experience high CPU utilization when the process is running. End process names which match, noting that "explorer;" is the default Windows shell and is a valid task! 1. Run the WinNT Registry Editor - Click Start > Run > Open REGEDIT (not REGEDT32). 2. Locate the hive [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Windows]. 3. Highlight the following key "run=C:\WINNT\System32\Explore.exe" and remove by pressing the Delete button. 4. 3. Edit WIN.INI and remove either of these lines if they exist run=c:\winnt\system32\explore.exe run=c:\winnt\_setup.exe 5. Restart Windows NT - Click Start > Shutdown. Select Restart and click OK. (Your system will now reboot.) 6. Remove the file, EXPLORE.EXE, from your system 7. Click Start > Find > Files or Folders 8. In the Find: All Files dialog box, type EXPLORE.EXE in the (Named) field 9. Click Find Now - delete EXPLORE.EXE 10. Repeat Step 6 through 9 for _SETUP.EXE and ZIPPED_FILES.EXE. Variants1 AliasesW32/ExploreZip.worm.pak, I-Worm.ZippedFiles, Worm.ExploreZip(pack), MiniZip -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:48:05 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:48:02 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Want to subscribe Please tell me how to Subscribe. Dave Klein <*}}}>< Fort Wayne,IN 97 PC800 14,000mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ End Time Info: http://www.jvim.com E-mail Prayer requests to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: stevew@tcainternet.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: riding safe Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:13:50 PST Steve and the PC gang, I agree totally !! Laying down the bike wastes precious time, time to brake or time to swerve, mostly time to brake. Yeah, you may hit the damn car anyway but you should scrub off as much speed as possible and tire friction is so much greater than plastic friction. Laying it down is, IMHO, akin to letting go of the stick and closing your eyes. In a plane or on a bike you have to fly it all the way down. Many a plane crash has been avoided by flying it and not giving up, regaining control and either landing the thing or flying on. In laying it down you give up that control and throw your fate to chance. Des ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: bmachame@mindspring.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Member - Tucson Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:28:35 PST Bill, Welcome to the list, glad to have ya. Don't be shy, jump right in. I have a good friend there in Tucson, keep an eye out for her, rides an early 90 candy red Wing or a reddish Beemer. Joanna Strohn is a great lady, lot of years in motorcycling. Also, check out her web site at motocentral.com . That goes for the rest of the gang also, great site with tons of motorcycle related news, race results, reviews and all things of a bike nature. Des ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: shock adjustment Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:58:49 -0500 >So on the shock adjustment, is all the way forward the softest >or all the way backward? Rotating the preload adjuster simply changes the amount the spring is compressed. The position that compresses the spring the most is the stiffest. It's as simple as that. Jim Randall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:24:24 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:42:59 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Want to subscribe To: DavidAklein@webtv.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) DavidAklein@webtv.net writes: >Please tell me how to Subscribe. > > >Dave Klein <*}}}>< Fort Wayne,IN > 97 PC800 14,000mi. Honda Pacific Coast owners' email list: To subscribe to the list, send "subscribe pc800" (without " ") in the body of a message (not the subject line) to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:57:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:57:18 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The kicker is, Progressive's prices tend to be the best available...of course, I have not tried Dairyland or any other "motorcycle" friendly co. Alan in Houston 89' (sorry - it's 73 here today) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:30:52 -0600 Oh, yes, Progressive's prices are a good deal, but if they are a pain in the @ss to deal with... Does the savings justify the headaches and all the frustration that I have received in the last two days? I kept reminding everyone that kept giving me the run-around at Progressive that I am the customer, and I felt that I was not being treated properly. Didn't have much of an effect, but I kept saying it (over and over)... Bought my latest toy today, a brand spanking new (year) 2000 model Deere 7 hp OHV dual stage 24" SNOWBLOWER with 8 speeds and big wide knobby tires!!! YEE HAA!!! (Side note to Steve Wilson - Ain't John Deere credit the best thing in the world???) It's sitting right next to the PC. Hey, if I can't have fun with one, I'll have fun with the other!!! Got so frustrated over this insurance thing, I had to go "treat" myself. Gotta lay off those $1,000 "treats"! Maybe I can make enough money this winter in using it that I can justify a second PC (a black & silver one this time).... :-) BRING ON THE SNOW!!!!! (Sorry, I just HAD to mention it...) Hopefully I will be able to fill you all in on how I finally resolve everything tomorrow in the tag team match of Fenwick vs. Agent vs. Progressive in its third day. Still smilin'! Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800L, 23,310 miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 9:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... >The kicker is, Progressive's prices tend to be the best available...of >course, I have not tried Dairyland or any other "motorcycle" friendly co. > >Alan in Houston 89' (sorry - it's 73 here today) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:34:13 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: RE: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" writes: > Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! > HA !! > No heated grips, vest or gloves, no snowmobil suits. Not even a full > fairing in the days I still had my XJ600S Diversion (at least it had > an air cooled engine I could hug at gas stations....uaaaahhh....). > Took me a couple of hours per day to defrost my hands though... Celsius or Fahrenheit? The coldest I ever rode was 10 degrees F, in Ann Arbor, Michigan on a 125cc twin. The suspension, tires, and cables were pretty much frozen solid at that temp. Once I rode a Yamaha 80 in a snowstorm and the carb stuck in the open position. I modulated speed with the rear brake, and went through stop signs and red lights as long as there was no other traffic around, shifting without using the clutch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:40:09 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Want to subscribe DavidAklein@webtv.net writes: > Please tell me how to Subscribe. Actually, you don't have to. The owner of the PC800 list runs it as an "open" list, and non-members (such as myself) can post. I avoid the overhead of receiving still more email by being a non-subscriber. I track what's happening through the web interface, via a bookmark to the current monthly index. When the month changes, I update the bookmark. http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9912/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:03:30 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... To: Ahall77379@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/1/99 8:58:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, Ahall77379@aol.com writes: << Alan in Houston 89' (sorry - it's 73 here today) >> No Alan, sorry that you have to live in Houston. Lived there for 20 years (Spring Branch area) and every time that I am back I thank God that I dont live there anymore. Traffic, crime, heat, NO good riding roads anywhere. Guess I will stay in Idaho. Nothing wrong with being happy with where you live, just glad that it is you and not me! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: "You think that's cold? Why, every morning we'd wake up and go in the house... Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:12:12 -0800 -- . Once I rode a Yamaha 80 in >a snowstorm and the carb stuck in the open position. I modulated >speed with the rear brake, and went through stop signs and red lights >as long as there was no other traffic around, shifting without using >the clutch. Why, as youth in Montana this was normal for us. We'd put a little snow on the seat and pretty soon our clamdiggers would be frozen fast to the seat pan (the vinyl had long since shattered). That way, when we came to a stop sign (which we always fully obeyed) we'd just put down our feet (we wore flipflops) and the back tire would come off the surface. Just to help our moms we would take a piece of frozen rope that had been threaded on the back of a sled, and then hold the other end in our teeth. That way we could push around the younger kids on the back streets. There were five of us, and we had one pair of gloves that we shared. I got to wear the left one on the second Tuesday of alternate months that end in the letter "J". Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: "You think that's cold? Why, every morning we'd wake up and go in the house... Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:00:47 -0000 > There were five of us, and we had one pair of gloves that we shared. I got > to wear the left one on the second Tuesday of alternate months that end in > the letter "J". > > Lee Luxury,............... when I were a lad................ cue monty python thread....................... Russ big.russ@tesco.net Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: a few decals for sale Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:24:26 -0800 Hi friends-- I still have a few decals for sale. They're high quality, peel and stick. These match very well the decals on the PC. The lettering reads, Body by Tupperware The first two words are kind of scripty, the T word is very similar to how it shows on the container with the turkey soup in the fridge. For location, I'd ask the listers who bought them to share where they put 'em. I have three on my machine. Already they elicited this comment, "Tupperware. Boy, they're into everything." I just smiled. One for $8, two for $12, 4 for $20. I pay postage. When these are gone, that's it. Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 16:08:44 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Final chapter of Progressive conflict... To get this to resolution the quickest way possible, and to have Progressive doing most of the work (since it was their "we can't do that" that created most of this), here's what we did... I dealt directly with Progressive to get the old policy cancelled and the new policy rewritten. That way my agent did nothing, and I handled everything with just one phone call to Progressive. I only had to fax one item to them. My agent "lost" the policy, but she still retains all of my other business. She said that what she made off that policy wasn't even worth the time and hassle for the BOTH of us to meet (and me to take time away from work), for her to cancel the old policy, to her to write the new policy, to submit the initial payment, etc. (and I agreed with all of it...) Progressive was able to match the quote that she had provided me for continuous coverage this past July. Their website had quoted a higher amount for less coverage... (???) So we made Progressive go through all the paperwork hassles... I still will be getting a quote from Dairyland. Any others that I should consider? Rich Fenwick Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FM53PY01.NM8 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:51:34 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: PC mentioned in Dec BMW Mag Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:50:09 +0100 >> Bunch of sissies !! I rode for days at a time at MINUS 10 degrees ! >> HA !! >Celsius or Fahrenheit? The coldest I ever rode was 10 degrees F, in >Ann Arbor, Michigan on a 125cc twin. >Selden Deemer Why Celcius offcourse, this ain't the "je naait het steeds of amerika". That's still 14 degrees F, chilly enough for a 100 mile daily freeway commute on a non faired bike without heated grips or anything (well I did have my clothes on)... My coldest ride also was around 10F also... Gonna buy me some Hein Gericke heated grips tommorow, apparently they are pretty good and can be combined with the Vista Cruise without too much cutting (just a tiny bit), on the ST offcourse... I think I've proven my machoness enough now... heat rules ! Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:41:04 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Final chapter of Progressive conflict... "R. Fenwick" writes: > Progressive was able to match the quote that she had provided me > for continuous coverage this past July. Their website had quoted > a higher amount for less coverage... (???) This is interesting. At a Cycle World trade show last February, I stopped by the Progressive booth to get a quote -- they explained they could only generate quotes, not issue policies. It was substantially under what I was paying. I contacted their web site, and asked for a quote for the same coverage and, as Rich reports, it was substantially higher than the quote I was given on the showroom floor, so I decided not to switch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com via smtpd (for chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 16:46:42 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:45:57 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Final chapter of Progressive conflict... I have Progressive. When I used their website I was quoted a very low rate for a liability only policy - $74.00. When I called them, they quoted me $1100 for the liability only policy. It seems that it is very easy for them to accidently quote the auto rates. By calling again, I got someone who was able to match the online quote. So I have my one year coverage for $74.00. I hope to never have a claim, but at least I am legal. Steven Steinsapir '89 PC800 - "Pacific Pearl" KF6USJ - San Gabriel Valley Steve_Steinsapir@taxfin.adp.com If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. Selden Deemer on 12/03/99 06:41:04 AM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC 800 List cc: (bcc: Steven Steinsapir/Business Continuity Services/Operations/SanDimas) Fax to: Subject: PC800: Re: Final chapter of Progressive conflict... "R. Fenwick" writes: > Progressive was able to match the quote that she had provided me > for continuous coverage this past July. Their website had quoted > a higher amount for less coverage... (???) This is interesting. At a Cycle World trade show last February, I stopped by the Progressive booth to get a quote -- they explained they could only generate quotes, not issue policies. It was substantially under what I was paying. I contacted their web site, and asked for a quote for the same coverage and, as Rich reports, it was substantially higher than the quote I was given on the showroom floor, so I decided not to switch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:54:05 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:17:22 -0600 (CST) by mail10.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 15:16:56 -0000 From: "Kari Jackman" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive has a really silly policy... Layover insurance, brand new snowblower- now you know it will not snow = in your parts for quite a long time. That's an expensive way to keep the = warm weather around for awhile. Rich Fenwick wrote on 12/1/99 10:30 pm: >Oh, yes, Progressive's prices=20 >are a good deal, but if they=20 >are a pain in the @ss to deal=20 >with... Does the savings=20 >justify the headaches and all=20 >the frustration that I have=20 >received in the last two=20 >days? I kept reminding=20 >everyone that kept giving=20 >me the run-around at=20 >Progressive that I am the=20 >customer, and I felt that I=20 >was not being treated=20 >properly. Didn't have much=20 >of an effect, but I kept=20 >saying it (over and over)... > >Bought my latest toy today,=20 >a brand spanking new (year)=20 >2000 model Deere 7 hp OHV=20 >dual stage 24"=20 >SNOWBLOWER with 8 speeds=20 >and big wide knobby tires!!!=20 >YEE HAA!!! (Side note to=20 >Steve Wilson - Ain't John=20 >Deere credit the best thing=20 >in the world???) It's sitting=20 >right next to the PC. Hey, if=20 >I can't have fun with one, I'll=20 >have fun with the other!!! =20 >Got so frustrated over this=20 >insurance thing, I had to go=20 >"treat" myself. Gotta lay=20 >off those >$1,000 "treats"! > >Maybe I can make enough=20 >money this winter in using it=20 >that I can justify a second PC=20 >(a black & silver one this=20 >time).... :-) > >BRING ON THE SNOW!!!!!=20 >(Sorry, I just HAD to=20 >mention it...) > >Hopefully I will be able to fill=20 >you all in on how I finally=20 >resolve everything=20 >tomorrow in the tag team=20 >match of Fenwick vs. Agent=20 >vs. Progressive in its third=20 >day. > >Still smilin'! > >Rich Fenwick >Illinois >1990 PC800L, 23,310 miles > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ahall77379@aol.com=20 > To:=20 >pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 > >Date: Wednesday,=20 >December 01, 1999 9:58 PM=20 >Subject: Re: PC800:=20 >Progressive has a really silly=20 >policy... > > >>The kicker is, Progressive's=20 >prices tend to be the best=20 >available...of >course, I have=20 >not tried Dairyland or any=20 >other "motorcycle" friendly=20 >co. >> >>Alan in Houston 89' =20 >(sorry - it's 73 here today) >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at=20 >d.com/~pc800/> >To=20 >unsubscribe from the list,=20 >send "unsubscribe pc800" in=20 >the body of a >message to=20 >majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send=20 >mail to=20 >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at=20 >d.com/~pc800/> To=20 >unsubscribe from the list,=20 >send "unsubscribe pc800" in=20 >the body of a message to=20 >majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send=20 >mail to=20 >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.=20 Bill Jackman=0A= SLC, UT=0A= bjpc800@netzero.net=0A= 89PC800~25k __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brian & Diane Raber" To: Subject: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:47:07 -0600 Hey Ya'll (that's Alabama for hello) =20 I too just went through the insurance nutroll, and found a MUCH = cheaper company than Progressive. The company is called Integon, a = subsidiary of GMAC (General Motors Acceptance Corporation). I got a = year's coverage, including comp/collision and liability (20/40/10) with = a $100 deductible for $94. The same quote through Progressive was $214, = and Dairyland was even higher - $236. I did not opt for uninsured = motorist or guest passenger. =20 The policy price was so low that the independent agent that got it = for me had to call the main office to verify, and it was correct. The = number for Integon is 1-877-INTEGON, or see http://www.integon.com. I = cannot make any claims about their customer service or claims reporting = since I've just opened the policy. God willing, I won't need to make a = claim. Ride Safe! verify, and=20 it was correct.  The number for Integon is 1-877-INTEGON, or see http://www.integon.com.   =20 I cannot make any claims about their customer service or claims = reporting=20 since I've just opened the policy.  God willing, I won't need to = make a=20 claim.
    Ride = Safe!
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:30:15 -0800 Brian, What does the 20/40/10 stand for? If this represents thousands of dollars (20,000/40,000/10,000) then I hope you don't own your own home, or you might loose it if you were found at fault in an accident and then sued by the others involved. Rule of thumb for homeowners is that you need to carry minimum amounts at least as great as the value of your house and belongings, or the other parties may go after you personally if they incure more damage that your insurance will pay out per accident. My coverages are 100,000 per person/ 300,000 per accident. Your rates will be a little higher, once you have the correct coverage. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k picking up Bushtech trailer on Sunday. > ---------- > From: Brian & Diane Raber > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:47 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread > > Hey Ya'll (that's Alabama for hello) > > I too just went through the insurance nutroll, and found a MUCH cheaper > company than Progressive. The company is called Integon, a subsidiary of GMAC > (General Motors Acceptance Corporation). I got a year's coverage, including > comp/collision and liability (20/40/10) with a $100 deductible for $94. The > same quote through Progressive was $214, and Dairyland was even higher - $236. > I did not opt for uninsured motorist or guest passenger. > The policy price was so low that the independent agent that got it for me > had to call the main office to verify, and it was correct. The number for > Integon is 1-877-INTEGON, or see http://www.integon.com. I cannot make any > claims about their customer service or claims reporting since I've just opened > the policy. God willing, I won't need to make a claim. > Ride Safe! > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) 3 Dec 1999 17:34:31 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:32:22 -0800 From: Tom and Anita Humphrey Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread To: Peter Noeth , "'PC800 List'" Importance: Normal I must agree with Peter Noeth - you cannot have too much insurance if you have ANY assets! Better yet - you can get a $ 1,000,000 UMBRELLA POLICY for a few hundred dollars a year. It sure gives you peace of mind, just in case something happens.... FWIW Tom in Clayton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1) with SMTP id 4466865 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 21:05:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:13:21 -0800 Two other thoughts along this line: 1. Check out the cost of a "general liability" or "umbrella" policy that will protect you no matter how you may be faulted with injuring someone (as long as you don't do it on purpose). Mine is quite cost effective, and covers me for everything from a slip-n-fall on my driveway to getting hit by a rock shot out from under my cycle tire. My wife is a school teacher, and the policy also covers her in the event some parent decides she caused injury to a student. Sometimes an "insurance salad" is a good thing to have to protect yourself. The only down-side to this is that many personal injury attorneys I know will decide the value of a case based on the amount of insurance carried by a person. Seems sort of screwy that the same injury can be "worth" different values depending upon the amount of insurance the person faulted with the injury chooses or can afford to carry. Sort of like some of those unscrupulous doctors who decide how much a procedure costs, or even what procedures are necessary, depending upon the patients insurance coverage. Oy, vey! 2. More and more people are taking their properties out of their personal "estates" to prevent them from being attacked in the event of a lawsuit. Property can be transferred to other family members, or can be placed in trusts or "holding" entities such as corporations or limited liability companies, etc. I obtained a judgment in 1994 against a doctor who lived in a veritable mansion, drove a Jag, Caddy, or Suburban depending on which mood he was in, and operated a line of health spas. He didn't own ANY of it in his name, and I haven't been able to collect on the judgment yet. It was obvious that he had professional assistance in "hiding" his assets. Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter Noeth" To: "'PC800 List'" Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread > Brian, > > What does the 20/40/10 stand for? If this represents thousands of dollars > (20,000/40,000/10,000) then I hope you don't own your own home, or you might > loose it if you were found at fault in an accident and then sued by the others > involved. Rule of thumb for homeowners is that you need to carry minimum amounts > at least as great as the value of your house and belongings, or the other > parties may go after you personally if they incure more damage that your > insurance will pay out per accident. My coverages are 100,000 per person/ > 300,000 per accident. Your rates will be a little higher, once you have the > correct coverage. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k picking up Bushtech > trailer on Sunday. > > > > ---------- > > From: Brian & Diane Raber > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:47 PM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: PC800: RE: Progressive Insurance thread > > > > Hey Ya'll (that's Alabama for hello) > > > > I too just went through the insurance nutroll, and found a MUCH cheaper > > company than Progressive. The company is called Integon, a subsidiary of GMAC > > (General Motors Acceptance Corporation). I got a year's coverage, including > > comp/collision and liability (20/40/10) with a $100 deductible for $94. The > > same quote through Progressive was $214, and Dairyland was even higher - $236. > > I did not opt for uninsured motorist or guest passenger. > > The policy price was so low that the independent agent that got it for me > > had to call the main office to verify, and it was correct. The number for > > Integon is 1-877-INTEGON, or see http://www.integon.com. I cannot make any > > claims about their customer service or claims reporting since I've just opened > > the policy. God willing, I won't need to make a claim. > > Ride Safe! > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: off PC: motorcycle article Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:51:30 -0800 Published 12/5/99, Bend Bulletin, Bend Oregon: MOTORCYCLE FATALITIES DROP TO 33-YEAR LOW Motorcycle fatalities are at their lowest number since 1963, and the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) credits increased safety training for motorcyclists. Motorcycle safety expert Tom Haats of Bend was honored recently for his part in training riders. He was named coordinator of the year for organizing local safety courses since 1995. Sixteen people died annually in motorcycle crashes in 1999, down from 25 fatalities in 1998, according to Stan Porter of ODOT's Transportation Safety Division. One of the 1999 fatalities occurred in Deschutes County. None occurred in Crook or Jefferson Counties. Up to 70 people (in Oregon) died annually in motorcycle crashes 15 years ago, Porter said, but since then, more than 30,000 riders have taken motorcycle safety courses . But the chairman of the Governor's Advisory Committee on Motorcycle Safety, Mitch Putnam, has expressed concern that more than 40 percent of this year's fatalities involved alcohol. Porter said, "Motorcyclists perform about three times as many tasks as automobile drivers." Putnam added, "Any impairment of abilities can lead to tragedy." -30- Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:50:14 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: PC (Computer) kaput!! Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:48:29 +0100 Hi, I promised to get some pictures on the mod's I have made on the PC 800 = out on the homepage by today. But .. My computer has been acting very strange the last couple of = weeks. It started to work very slow after about 40- 50 minutes and I had = to restart it to get another 40-50 minutes of worktime on it. Now it's = down to 15-20 minutes work time so working to download pictures is = impossible. I have had several long talks with the help-line , who have no cures for = the damn machine. I will call them again on monday and demand a new PC ( = My 3rd)!!!! Anyway, I have mounted the Kimpex grip heaters (from Michael Linkous) = and the Body by=20 Tupperware decals (from Lee Barker) + the combined Clock, volt,amp. = meter I bought some months ago. Off coarse the snow arrived the same = evening I did the heated grips!!.. and.... It's still there... the snow = !!!! I will get the pictures out on My page when I get a PC that is working!! Torill booked a 2 week holiday here on Monday, so We will be spending = Christmas and the New Year Eve on Tenerife ( for those who are not = familiar with the locations, It is one of the Canary Island located in = the Atlantic ocean , west of Africa). The weather there are normally = good the year round so a good 24-28 degrees Celsius will do Me good. = Departure the 19th and We will be back home next year!! (the 3rd of = January to be precise). This was all I managed to do on the time frame the computer allowed Me. =20 Regards Arvid one PC in the garage that can not be worked (due to bad weather) and one PC that should be thrown in the bin !!! not=20 familiar with the locations, It is one of the Canary Island located in = the=20 Atlantic ocean , west of Africa). The weather there are normally good = the year=20 round so a good 24-28 degrees Celsius will do Me good. Departure the = 19th=20 and We will be back home next year!! (the 3rd of January to be=20 precise).
This was all I managed to do on the time frame the = computer=20 allowed Me.
 
Regards
 
Arvid
 
one PC in the garage that can not be worked (due to = bad=20 weather)
and
one PC that should be thrown in the bin = !!!
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:58:47 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Restarted the PC: Anyone close to Delaware, OH ? Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:54:43 +0100 A bike I'm interested in is located there.=20 Need a OO7 to check it out. Regards Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: PC's for sale in NW Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:30:08 -0800 Hi friends-- I just Cycled through the Trader (old timey print version) and found two PC's for sale in the NW: 96, $4800, Portland Motorcycle Company 503 255 5787 www.portlandmotorcycle.com 98, red, 800 miles, too tall for my short wife, sacrifice @$5995. Beaverton. 503-645-0492. (Beaverton is west, just, of Portland) Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:56:07 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bud Tucker" To: Subject: PC800: PC-800 Mailing list Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:42:13 -0800 I got an email telling me that this was the location to get the PC-800 = mailing list, it's an email address. If you have a list, could you send it to me? Bud Tucker bud@direct,ca=20 it to=20 me?
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:58:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bud Tucker" To: Subject: PC800: Sorry Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:46:37 -0800 Sorry Leland, I couldn't figure out why my email address didn't turn blue....'cause I = typed it incorrectly. budt@direct.ca -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:13:37 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:22:52 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: Sorry To: Bud Tucker , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net Bud, and the PC email list... Bud..you have the Happy99 worm (similar to a computer virus) on your system...please don't respond to this email, or send out any further emails until you rid your computer system of the worm... Bud..go to; http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html To get information on how to rid your computer of this worm..until you get rid of it..it will attach itself to ALL of your OUTGOING email. Thanks. __________________________________________________ ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PRGormley@aol.com for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:55:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:55:26 EST Subject: PC800: Happy99? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu This is off-topic but certainly not off-list, but isn't the file sent to the list by "budt@direct.ca" one of the Trojan Horse viruses circulating some months ago, perhaps a self-replicating version? - Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:13:02 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:22:20 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: Happy99? To: PRGormley@aol.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net Paul, It is. Seems quite common nowadays..my virus protection program caught it..it is a bothersome "worm", that those in the know (surely not myself) call it a "worm", and not really a virus (like I know the difference?) :-) I am sure that Bud probably didn't even know he had it..but certainly one thing for sure..(*whistling...BUD! Get a virus protection program!) :-) One should get a virus protection program for your computer, and keep it updated. ________________________________________________ On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:55:26 -0500 (EST), you wrote: -->This is off-topic but certainly not off-list, but isn't the file sent = to the=20 -->list by "budt@direct.ca" one of the Trojan Horse viruses circulating = some=20 -->months ago, perhaps a self-replicating version? --> -->- Paul ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMAM2Y03.IZU; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:16:10 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Happy99? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:14:31 +0100 >This is off-topic but certainly not off-list, but isn't the file sent to the >list by "budt@direct.ca" one of the Trojan Horse viruses circulating some >months ago, perhaps a self-replicating version? >- Paul It's a worm, not a trojan (Pretty Park is..). It multiplies itself by sort of attaching itself to outgoing mail (unlike Pretty Park which sends itself automatically to your entire adress book). So far Happy99 turned out to be more of a nuisance than a threat (unlike PrettyPark which first turnes of programs on your pc, then sends out info for others to log into your system). Info about the Happy99 worm: http://ciac.llnl.gov/cgi-bin/cnotes http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2195075,00.html Programs and info on how to prevent / fix: http://kumite.com/myths/ and http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html Most important is not to start programs sent to you without checking.... Small piece about uninstalling pasted below: >>> Removing the worm manually: 1. delete WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SKA.EXE 2. delete WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SKA.DLL 3. in WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ directory, rename WSOCK32.DLL to WSOCK32.BAK 4. in WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ directory, rename WSOCK32.SKA to WSOCK32.DLL 5. delete the downloaded file, usually named HAPPY99.EXE >>> Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:02:17 -0500 From: Kernneth Winter To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Non PC Brake problems: I am having a problem with the braking system on another Honda. It is a 1983 Night Hawk 650. While servicing the bike I replaced the old brake fluid. The system was bled and worked fine in the garage. Sunday I rolled it out in the sun. A few minutes later I tried to roll it around and found the front brakes locked. I opened the bleeder valve and the brakes freed. I rode it around the block and the brakes locked again. What could cause this to happen? Kenneth Winter 1990 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMAOSC02.Q10; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:14:36 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "PC800" Subject: PC800: UK PC800 for sale Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:13:01 +0100 Hi Tim. I've forwarded this message to the PC list so UK list members might give you better advice. Listers (UK especially), please see message below. One thing I did find was this list for second hand bikes for sale in UK - Web sites: http://www.topbike.com http://www.exchangeandmart.co.uk http://www.friday-ad.co.uk http://www.autotrader.co.uk Greetings, Emile, Holland http://fly.to/emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim Barrett To: Sent: zaterdag 4 december 1999 7:49 Subject: (no subject) Hi, I.,m a British Ex Pat living in the Gulf right now. I have a new PC800 for sale in England, I was going to use it personally but got a contract to come out here for two years. What would be the best way of advertising this bike? Thanks for your help Regards Tim Barrett -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Job Chithalan" To: Subject: PC800: test Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:21:26 -0000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMAPA602.NZ7; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:25:18 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Job Chithalan" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: test Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:23:43 +0100 Did I pass ? : ) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Job Chithalan To: Sent: maandag 6 december 1999 2:21 Subject: PC800: test -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:34:16 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:43:33 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: test To: Emile Nossin , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net <00f601bf3f88$8ab3bb00$293e30d4@email> HE CHEATED! I SAW HIM..HE CHEATED! QUICK...LOOK UNDER HIS NOTE BOOK! __________________________________________________ On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 02:23:43 +0100, you wrote: -->Did I pass ? -->: ) --> -->----- Original Message -----=20 -->From: Job Chithalan -->To: -->Sent: maandag 6 december 1999 2:21 -->Subject: PC800: test --> --> --> --> -->-- -->Visit the PC800 web page at -->To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a -->message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. -->To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Nyffeler" To: "PC800 Group" Subject: PC800: Increasing Range Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:49:46 -0600 Hey All: I could use your input. How can I increase the range of my PC? Are there ways to tune the PC for better fuel mileage? Are there options for auxiliary fuel tanks? Does anyone know what provisions were made by the PC rider in the '97 Iron Butt? I would like to try a SS1000, or BB1500. But I'm not sure how to do it with a "stock" PC. If this bug of mine turns into a full blown illness, I might have to find a mount with a "long range" fuel tank. Jim Nyffeler nyfty@navix.net 1989 PC800 Lincoln, Nebraska USA "GO HUSKERS!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:31:00 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "J. Nyffeler" , "PC800 Group" Subject: Re: PC800: Increasing Range Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:31:47 -0600 I know where the fuel cell is (or maybe just the bracket) that ran the Iron Butt on a PC. It was mounted on the back seat. I may be able to find pictures of the cell on the PC and send them to you. FWIW, I ran my SS1000 in 17 hours with no fuel cell and stopped 9 or 10 times for fuel. Sure would have been easier with a cell but you don't have to have one. I am not sure but I think a PC rider on the list has a cell on his PC now. Bob Broeking, are you out there? I am planning on riding to Austin TX. next weekend to eat some tamales with a bunch of Iron Butt riders and then ride back home. About an 800 mile round trip. Now you know why I am anxious about wearing a Widder vest for the trip. :-) Holler if I can be of any other help. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J. Nyffeler To: PC800 Group Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:49 PM Subject: PC800: Increasing Range > Hey All: > > I could use your input. How can I increase the range of my PC? Are there > ways to tune the PC for better fuel mileage? Are there options for > auxiliary fuel tanks? Does anyone know what provisions were made by the PC > rider in the '97 Iron Butt? I would like to try a SS1000, or BB1500. But > I'm not sure how to do it with a "stock" PC. If this bug of mine turns into > a full blown illness, I might have to find a mount with a "long range" fuel > tank. > > Jim Nyffeler > nyfty@navix.net > 1989 PC800 > Lincoln, Nebraska USA > "GO HUSKERS!" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:02:56 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: PC (Computer) kaput!! Arvid Lovik writes: > But .. My computer has been acting very strange the last couple of weeks. > It started to work very slow after about 40- 50 minutes and I had to > restart it to get another 40-50 minutes of worktime on it. Now it's > down to 15-20 minutes work time so working to download pictures is > impossible. I have had several long talks with the help-line, who have > no cures for the damn machine. I will call them again on monday and > demand a new PC ( My 3rd)!!!! I can't resist: Get a Mac. Happily working from home on a 5-year old Macintosh that still lets me do more work in less time than the supposedly faster 1-year old NT box I have to use at work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:17:14 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Brake problems Kenneth Winter writes: > I am having a problem with the braking system on another Honda. It is > a 1983 Night Hawk 650. While servicing the bike I replaced the old > brake fluid. The system was bled and worked fine in the garage. Sunday > I rolled it out in the sun. A few minutes later I tried to roll it > around and found the front brakes locked. I opened the bleeder valve > and the brakes freed. I rode it around the block and the brakes locked > again. What could cause this to happen? I had a similar problem with the rear brake on a 1982 Ascot thumper. I'm 99% sure that your problem is dirt in the brake cylinder (not the master cylinder at the handlebar, but the cylinder on the caliper). A piece of dirt may have gotten into the cylinder when the brake fluid was purged. This piece of dirt will prevent the return flow of brake fluid when you release the brake. The solution is to remove the brake caliper and disassemble it, cleaning thoroughly and blowing out all passages with compressed air. Given the age of the bike, the seals should probably be replaced, and you may find some corrosion on the pistons. If it's not too bad, they can be polished using a mildly abrasive chrome polish, such as Simichrome. Double check everything on reassembly as if your life depends on it, because it does. Improving brake "feel" is one good reason to change your brake fluid frequently. The other is to reduce the possibility of corrosion. Water absorbed into the brake fluid is the culprit in both cases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A91E171019A; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:24:46 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Norloff" Date: Mon, 6 Dec 99 08:24:47 -0500 To: cen13504@centurytel.net CC: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC The pressure in the brake lines isn't allowing your brakes to release. This can be caused by the brake lever not returning to its original position, the master cylinder piston not returning to its original position, or the small bleed hole in the master cylinder being blocked. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Kernneth Winter Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:02:17 -0500 >Brake problems: >I am having a problem with the braking system on another Honda. It is a >1983 Night Hawk 650. While servicing the bike I replaced the old brake >fluid. The system was bled and worked fine in the garage. Sunday I >rolled it out in the sun. A few minutes later I tried to roll it around >and found the front brakes locked. I opened the bleeder valve and the >brakes freed. I rode it around the block and the brakes locked again. >What could cause this to happen? > >Kenneth Winter >1990 PC 800 > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" , "Bud Tucker" Subject: Re: PC800: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 06:50:58 -0800 I received this email this morning from Bud Tucker. It had an attachment file, "Happy99.exe" which my McFee Virus checker indicated contained the virus "w32/ska.exe". I deleted the file without opening it. For all your info. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bud Tucker Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:56 PM Subject: PC800: PC-800 Mailing list -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "J. Nyffeler" , "PC800 Group" Subject: Re: PC800: Increasing Range Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 06:59:17 -0800 A fuel cell would be nice, but I did a SS1000 without any problems with my PC. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J. Nyffeler >I could use your input. How can I increase the range of my PC? Are there >ways to tune the PC for better fuel mileage? Are there options for >auxiliary fuel tanks? Does anyone know what provisions were made by the PC >rider in the '97 Iron Butt? I would like to try a SS1000, or BB1500. But >I'm not sure how to do it with a "stock" PC. If this bug of mine turns into >a full blown illness, I might have to find a mount with a "long range" fuel >tank. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:12:01 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:17:09 -0600 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Increasing Range To: Will Edwards Cc: "J. Nyffeler" , PC800 Group Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Check the archives. Chuck Chiodini gave a long description of his fuel cell, how he hooked it up, and how the gas gauge responded to it. -- David L. Sigsbee Office: 901 678-4688 Jones Hall 402A Fax: 901 678-5367 Academic Transfer and Articulation E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu University of Memphis Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 21:12:47 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:11:19 -0800 From: Bruce Pickett To: PC Subject: PC800: Kenda Challenger tire I have just stripped all of the plastic off of Blue Pacific for inspection and modifications. I have observed that there is some scuffing on the left side trunk wall caused by rubbing of the tire. I knew about this problem with the '89s before buying the bike and I specifically asked the previous owner about it - he said there had never been a problem. He had installed a new tire, a Kenda Challenger 140/90-15, on the rear just before putting it up for sale. I have measured the width of this tire and found it to be 6.03 inches wide, and the gap between it and the left trunk wall is 1/4" at maximum. I have noted that the stock tire size is listed as 140/80H15. The scuffing of the trunk wall looks like it is new, so I am surmising that the new, non-stock tire, or the fact that I weigh considerably more than the previous rider, or both, has caused the tire to start to rub when it hadn't done so previously. Therefore, I am considering replacing this new tire. I have a new Dunlop K555F 120/80H17 on the front, and I am thinking of replacing the rear with the same brand. Do any of the '89 bikes have rear tire rubbing problems with Dunlops? Does anyone want to buy a Kenda Challenger with only a few hundred miles on it? Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "grizzly1" To: Subject: PC800: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:36:49 -0800 protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; I have looked over the web site on Russell "Day-Long" seats and they = sound very interesting. Does anyone have experience with this seat? I have a '98 PC. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:51:37 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , "grizzly1" Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:52:29 -0600 Hi Jack, (how often do you get kidded about that) I, I am sorry to say, still have the stock seat. I can tell you that the = folks on the Long Distance Rider list I am on, almost all sit on = Russell's. These guys, and gals, (Iron Butt riders) are known to ride = for 24+++ hours at a time and I have never heard one complaint about a = Russell. If I had the money, I would buy one in a heartbeat! Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: grizzly1=20 I have looked over the web site on Russell "Day-Long" seats and they = sound very interesting. Does anyone have experience with this seat? I have a '98 PC. Thanks Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:33:38 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? "grizzly1" writes: > I have looked over the web site on Russell "Day-Long" seats and they > sound very interesting. Does anyone have experience with this seat? I've never heard a bad comment about a Russell seat. The main gotcha (other than price) is that you have to send them your stock seat for them to rework it, so you will be seatless for several weeks. But it's December, and unless you live in a warm part of the country, you're probably not riding much anyway. They look a little weird -- but that can be used as reverse cool: anyone who knows what it is will conclude you are a serious LD rider; anyone who doesn't will give you an opening to expound on your toy. Note that the Corbin online catalog specifically says their saddle will NOT fit the 1998 PC, although I think I have heard from folks who have fitted them successfully. My only complaint about my Corbin is that it is rock hard. But, at the end of a SS1000 ride, my body felt remarkably good. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:37:15 -0600 To: PC 800 List From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? Selden wrote: "The main gotcha (other than price) is that you have to send them your stock seat for them to rework it, so you will be seatless for several weeks." I thought Ann Reid had offered a "loaner" seat available for the "seatless" while they were having a stock seat upgraded to a Corbin or a Russell. We had our first official snow Sunday night ("official" - meaning you could track a cat in it...) This morning I rode to work. The roads were completely clear, so what the heck! People tend to stare at you in traffic (or are they just admiring the PC???) :-) Rich Fenwick Illinois 1990 PC800L At 08:33 AM 12/07/1999 -0500, Selden Deemer wrote: >"grizzly1" writes: > >> I have looked over the web site on Russell "Day-Long" seats and they >> sound very interesting. Does anyone have experience with this seat? > >I've never heard a bad comment about a Russell seat. The main gotcha >(other than price) is that you have to send them your stock seat for >them to rework it, so you will be seatless for several weeks. But it's >December, and unless you live in a warm part of the country, you're >probably not riding much anyway. They look a little weird -- but that >can be used as reverse cool: anyone who knows what it is will conclude >you are a serious LD rider; anyone who doesn't will give you an opening >to expound on your toy. > >Note that the Corbin online catalog specifically says their saddle >will NOT fit the 1998 PC, although I think I have heard from folks >who have fitted them successfully. My only complaint about my Corbin >is that it is rock hard. But, at the end of a SS1000 ride, my body >felt remarkably good. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 10:45:04 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: >Note that the Corbin online catalog specifically says their saddle >will NOT fit the 1998 PC, although I think I have heard from folks >who have fitted them successfully. My only complaint about my >Corbin >is that it is rock hard. But, at the end of a SS1000 ride, my body >felt remarkably good. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: >libssd@emory.edu My Corbin seat most definitely fits my '98. The last of four bolts on the rear half was a chore, but I got it with help. I have since had occasion to removed the rear seat while installing the Honda trunk lights and the last bolt went in much easier. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ES9YZDP8; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 16:13:55 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:05:14 -0500 Subject: PC800: Trunk Light Kit From: Harvey P Sattin To those of you who have installed the trunk light kit: What did you use to glue back the rubber strip? Thanks. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA Still warm enough to ride! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:33:20 -0800 Black silicon caulking (GE RTV Sealant). Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Harvey P Sattin > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 1:05 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Trunk Light Kit > > To those of you who have installed the trunk light kit: > > What did you use to glue back the rubber strip? > > Thanks. > > ~Harvey Sattin > Brookline, MA > Still warm enough to ride! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: johnla@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Philips Wong - where art thou? Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 13:47:50 PST Hi John, >I've gotten email from a few people who haven't been >able to reach Philips. Both were looking for a "wong >wing". >Has anyone heard from him in the last few weeks? Sorry for reply in late. I was sooo busy in the past 2 weeks - that what life here, the pace here in HK is so fast then I have to work real hard for a better living, or I won't be able to have a good support so as to play hard. Anyway, from my records all orders had been completed except a Magna Red one. It is ready too but since I'll fly to Vancouver BC this Friday right after my birthday on Dec 9 (hey hey say happy birthday to me), I decided to bring it with me and have it sent within the States so as to let the guy get it sooner. There're 20 pages of emails accumulating in my inbox and now is 05:48 HKT Dec 8, I'll read thro' them and see if anybody didn't receive their wings. BTW, I'll stay in Los Angeles for 3 days dfrom Dec 14 - Dec 16, and back to Canada on Dec 17 morning, will there any ride or get together on Dec 14 Sunday for you So. Ca. PCers? - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 23 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brian Raber" To: , "Harvey P Sattin" Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:58:37 -0600 Hey Y'all Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit that could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but you all know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that entire line of accessories...). Thanks for any help. Brian Raber 1990 PC "Voyager" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:10:18 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:11:32 -0600 Brian, It would be really easy to make one of your own. Two small automotive dome lights and a door switch, a few feet of wire and a switch in line so it doesn't come one when you don't want it to (like in the daylight) and a couple of hours work and your are fixed up. Go ahead, you can do it. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brian Raber" To: ; "Harvey P Sattin" Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 6:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit > Hey Y'all > Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit that > could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but you all > know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that entire > line of accessories...). > Thanks for any help. > > Brian Raber > 1990 PC "Voyager" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:18:30 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:27:53 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit To: Brian Raber , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net <001101bf4117$5fa89440$77660a3f@default> Brian, I think you need to look at another dealer. I ordered, and received a Hondaline trunk light kit (as yet uninstalled) through my local Honda dealer. Unless..this has recently changed. I forgot I even ordered it...found it in one of our closets..hiding some Christmas presents! Good hiding place..forgot I put the trunk light kit there..and didn't even mean to hide it! :-) _________________________________________________ On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:58:37 -0600, you wrote: -->Hey Y'all --> Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit = that -->could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but = you all -->know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that = entire -->line of accessories...). --> Thanks for any help. --> -->Brian Raber -->1990 PC "Voyager" ___________________________________________________ ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:31:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 21:32:13 -0500 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) To: Brian Raber CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Brian, I just ordered a Honda light Kit for my trunk, and I already returned it. No way am I going to cut holes in my trunk. It is still available. Go to another dealer. Stan Brian Raber wrote: > Hey Y'all > Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit that > could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but you all > know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that entire > line of accessories...). > Thanks for any help. > > Brian Raber > 1990 PC "Voyager" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 21:29:33 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Trunk Light Kit To: bdraber@earthlink.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) bdraber@earthlink.net writes: >Hey Y'all > Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit >that >could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, >but you all >know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued >that entire >line of accessories...). > Thanks for any help. > >Brian Raber >1990 PC "Voyager" I just bought 2 trunk light kits last month through Honda of Milpitas for a couple of other listers: Light Kit- $28.60 Bags- $48.10 > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 8 Dec 1999 04:13:01 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "LARRY" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:11:03 -0500 Hi=20 I'm looking for a radio for my PC800, 1990. I've been looking for a = while. Anyone have a lead to get one in the Philadelphia, Pa. area. Realy like my PC800.=20 Thanks=20 lar __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 745; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:42:31 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "ed appler" To: "grizzly1" , Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:45:01 -0600 Jack, Our 78 Yamaha XS1100 has a Russell Day Long Saddle. We put it on about = 3 summers ago. Love it. VERY comfortable. Should be just as good on a = PC. Ed & Sharon Appler Conway, Arkansas 89 Pacific Coast 78 XS1100 -----Original Message----- From: grizzly1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 11:44 PM Subject: PC800: Anyone done Russell Seats on a PC? =20 =20 I have looked over the web site on Russell "Day-Long" seats and they = sound very interesting. Does anyone have experience with this seat? I have a '98 PC. =20 Thanks Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Brian Raber" , Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 06:50:18 -0800 What I plan on installing is a light that has seen service with three of my bikes and two of my sidecars. I originally obtained it out of a wreck Cadillac, mid 60's I guess. Anyway, it was originally installed as a trunk light in the car, and I have the original mounting bracket. What's special about it is that it contains a spool of about 15 feet of wire that rolls up inside it like a measuring tape, spring loaded. It has a mercury switch which activates the light when the trunk opens, but I installed a separate switch also. You can leave it in place, or pull it out and use it for a trouble light. I've used it for a light inside a tent, or just camp light at times. I guess now I can put it back inside a "trunk" like it was originally made for. It's not fancy, but it has served it's purpose over the years. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Brian Raber To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ; Harvey P Sattin Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:01 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit >Hey Y'all > Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit that >could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but you all >know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that entire >line of accessories...). > Thanks for any help. > >Brian Raber >1990 PC "Voyager" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:46:55 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Trunk Light Kit To: rstar@aa.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rstar@aa.net writes: >What I plan on installing is a light that has seen service with >three >of my bikes and two of my sidecars. I originally obtained it out >of a >wreck Cadillac, mid 60's I guess. Anyway, it was originally >installed >as a trunk light in the car, and I have the original mounting >bracket. >What's special about it is that it contains a spool of about 15 >feet >of wire that rolls up inside it like a measuring tape, spring >loaded. >It has a mercury switch which activates the light when the trunk >opens, but I installed a separate switch also. You can leave it in >place, or pull it out and use it for a trouble light. I've used it >for >a light inside a tent, or just camp light at times. I guess now I >can >put it back inside a "trunk" like it was originally made for. It's >not >fancy, but it has served it's purpose over the years. > >Will Edwards >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 The nice thing about the Honda light kit, other than being VERY affordable, is that you get a light for each side of your trunk space so you don't have any dark areas as you might with only one light source and a wiring harness that plugs in to your existing harness. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:02:18 -0600 To: From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit My 1992 Chevy 2500 Ext. Cab has something that sounds just like that mounted under the hood. It was a factory item. Never thought of using something like that. That would be great if one had to investigate a problem with the bike in the middle of nowhere without a flashlight (which I always carry anyway...) Hmmmmm..... That's a great idea! Rich Fenwick Illinois At 06:50 AM 12/08/1999 -0800, Will Edwards wrote: >What I plan on installing is a light that has seen service with three >of my bikes and two of my sidecars. I originally obtained it out of a >wreck Cadillac, mid 60's I guess. Anyway, it was originally installed >as a trunk light in the car, and I have the original mounting bracket. >What's special about it is that it contains a spool of about 15 feet >of wire that rolls up inside it like a measuring tape, spring loaded. >It has a mercury switch which activates the light when the trunk >opens, but I installed a separate switch also. You can leave it in >place, or pull it out and use it for a trouble light. I've used it for >a light inside a tent, or just camp light at times. I guess now I can >put it back inside a "trunk" like it was originally made for. It's not >fancy, but it has served it's purpose over the years. > >Will Edwards >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Raber >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ; Harvey P Sattin > >Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:01 PM >Subject: Re: PC800: Trunk Light Kit > > >>Hey Y'all >> Does anyone have info regarding an aftermarket trunk light kit >that >>could be retrofit to the PC? I tried to get one through Honda, but >you all >>know how that story goes (I'm sorry, but Honda has discontinued that >entire >>line of accessories...). >> Thanks for any help. >> >>Brian Raber >>1990 PC "Voyager" >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. in the body of
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Paul Novak pnovak@megsinet.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:31:26 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: PC passenger backrest (FREE) To: pnovak@megsinet.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) pnovak@megsinet.com writes: >Hi: >I recently installed a GIVI top bag on my 1990 PC. >To get it to fit properly, I cut off the brackets >that supported the padded passenger backrest. >So now I have a dark gray, vinyl backrest that I'll >never use again. It's in excellent condition. >I hate to throw it out; if anyone could use it, >let me know and I'll send it to you. It's free; >my way of paying everyone back for all the information >I have pulled off your website. > >Paul Novak >pnovak@megsinet.com I don't need a back rest, but you can pay me back for the informaton with a nice stereo system for the Yankee Smuggler and I to enjoy on our travels this coming summer...:-) Glad you found some useful information. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:47:10 -0500 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: PC passenger backrest (FREE) Cc: pnovak@megsinet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu >pnovak@megsinet.com writes: > It's free; > >my way of paying everyone back for all the information > >I have pulled off your website. > > > >Paul Novak > >pnovak@megsinet.com PC800Rider wrote: >I don't need a back rest, but you can pay me back for the >informaton with a nice stereo system for the Yankee Smuggler and I >to enjoy on our travels this coming summer...:-) Paul... you're welcome for all the great info. fsl p.s. I need tires. I already have a backrest. :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us with SMTP; 8 Dec 1999 21:24:21 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC passenger backrest (FREE) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:52:42 -0500 On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:09:39 -0600, paul novak wrote: >I recently installed a GIVI top bag on my 1990 PC. >To get it to fit properly, I cut off the brackets >that supported the padded passenger backrest. Curious why you didn't unbolt the brackets instead of cutting them? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jdc84@juno.com by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ETCJP768; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 16:01:58 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:46:17 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC passenger backrest (FREE) Atta way, Paul! It's people like you who keep me posted to this list. Ride Safe, Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:09:39 -0600 paul novak writes: > Hi: > I recently installed a GIVI top bag on my 1990 PC. > To get it to fit properly, I cut off the brackets > that supported the padded passenger backrest. > So now I have a dark gray, vinyl backrest that I'll > never use again. It's in excellent condition. > I hate to throw it out; if anyone could use it, > let me know and I'll send it to you. It's free; > my way of paying everyone back for all the information > I have pulled off your website. > > Paul Novak > pnovak@megsinet.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:52:41 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will be held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont Convention Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. I have not attended this show in the past, but am making plans to be there in 2000. I was wondering if others on the list were planning on attending this event, and if so, what about having an informal "get-together"? I, like many, cannot get to Marysville, OH for the Honda Homecoming, so maybe we can make this the "next best thing". Since we will most likely NOT be able to bring our beloved PC's, bring lots of PICTURES! Here's a link with all the info/details for the show (Click on "Chicago"): http://www.motorcycleshows.com/index2.html Maybe Honda will have the new X-Wing there?? Maybe a PC replacement??? :-) BTW - also (as a sidebar) ... The Chicago Auto Show at Mc Cormick Place on Lake Shore Drive is ALSO that same weekend (and it runs through the 20th). This event is also worth attending... http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/ I will probably being staying out towards the West suburbs (Naperville), since I know that area VERY well, and am very familiar with the accommodations. There is a very nice Wyndham Hotel that has "reasonable" rates ($75/night) They are 2 minutes from I-90, which is a MAJOR E-W corridor through the entire Chicago area. Just thought if others are going, we might as well meet at least one time during the event. Email me w/ any questions. Rich Fenwick Illinois in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois.

I have not attended this show in the past, but am making plans to be there in 2000.

I was wondering if others on the list were planning on attending this event, and if so, what about having an informal "get-together"?  I, like many, cannot get to Marysville, OH for the Honda Homecoming, so maybe we can make this the "next best thing".  Since we will most likely NOT be able to bring our beloved PC's, bring lots of PICTURES!

Here's a link with all the info/details for the show (Click on "Chicago"):

http://www.motorcycleshows.com/index2.html

Maybe Honda will have the new X-Wing there??  Maybe a PC replacement???  :-) 

BTW - also (as a sidebar) ... The Chicago Auto Show at Mc Cormick Place on Lake Shore Drive is ALSO that same weekend (and it runs through the 20th).  This event is also worth attending...

http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/

I will probably being staying out towards the West suburbs (Naperville), since I know that area VERY well, and am very familiar with the accommodations.  There is a very nice Wyndham Hotel that has "reasonable" rates ($75/night)  They are 2 minutes from I-90, which is a MAJOR E-W corridor through the entire Chicago area.

Just thought if others are going, we might as well meet at least one time during the event.  Email me w/ any questions.

Rich Fenwick
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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:47:35 -0500 From: ed roberts To: "R. Fenwick" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks boundary="------------A0777026ED595B51A6C9977C" --------------A0777026ED595B51A6C9977C "R. Fenwick" wrote: > The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will be held > the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont Convention Center > in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. > Here is a nice picture of the Honda X-Wing and the writer even mentions the PC800, not too kindly I might add. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/xwingrev.html Ed Roberts Hickory PA. --------------A0777026ED595B51A6C9977C  

"R. Fenwick" wrote:

The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will be held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont Convention Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois.
 
Here is a nice picture of the Honda X-Wing and the writer even mentions the PC800, not too kindly I might add.

                     http://www.motorcycledaily.com/xwingrev.html

Ed Roberts
Hickory PA. --------------A0777026ED595B51A6C9977C-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VERTIABLE2@aol.com for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:10:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:10:53 EST Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'M TRYING TO FIND A PC800 TO BUY - WHERE CAN I FIND ONE? PB -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMG4FG01.O3N; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:40:28 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:38:43 +0100 THERE IS ONE IN HILLEGOM !!!!!! You're welcome, Emile ; ) http://fly.to/emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: donderdag 9 december 1999 0:10 Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 I'M TRYING TO FIND A PC800 TO BUY - WHERE CAN I FIND ONE? PB -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:45:06 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:45:57 -0600 Try www.traderonline.com . Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 5:10 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 > I'M TRYING TO FIND A PC800 TO BUY - WHERE CAN I FIND ONE? > > > PB > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:26:21 -0800 I have one in my garage, but you can't have it. They are easy to find, just difficult to find one for sale. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VERTIABLE2@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 3:14 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 >I'M TRYING TO FIND A PC800 TO BUY - WHERE CAN I FIND ONE? > > >PB >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: cateyes in windshields Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:48:22 -0800 Has anyone tried putting cateyes (holes) in their windshields to help in reducing back pressure behind the fairing? I have a Clearview, wondering if this would be a good ideal, and would it weaken the shield too much. I have removed the trim piece beneath the steering stem to allow more air through and noticed quite a bit less back pressure. I just don't want to ruin a good shield. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:47:51 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks To: vespaed@dp.net, fenwick@nn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/8/99 3:47:36 PM Mountain Standard Time, vespaed@dp.net writes: << Here is a nice picture of the Honda X-Wing and the writer even mentions the PC800, not too kindly I might add. >> You know, it is kind of funny in a way. It seems that no matter what, the only people out there that REALLY appreciate the Pacific Coast for what it is, is the people that own them. We know, we ALL know, that the PC800 is without a doubt, the most unappreciated motorcycle that Honda, and likely anyone else, ever made. There is not even a close runner up. What else can compare to a PC? If there was a better ALL AROUND motorcycle out there, then by jingo, I would buy it! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 18:50:20 -0600 From: William Drake To: "R. Fenwick" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Great Idea Rich, I attended last years show and it was a great time. The parking was expensive $10, but the show was worth it. Another nice Hotel is the Double Tree suite sin Downers Grove $99/night with free buffet breakfast in the morning. It's near I-355 & I-88 at Butterfield Rd. It would be great to meet up with some other list members on one of the days. Please keep us advised Bill Drake '97 PC800 Bolingbrook, IL "R. Fenwick" wrote: > > The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will be held > the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont Convention Center > in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. > > I have not attended this show in the past, but am making plans to be > there in 2000. > > I was wondering if others on the list were planning on attending this > event, and if so, what about having an informal "get-together"? I, > like many, cannot get to Marysville, OH for the Honda Homecoming, so > maybe we can make this the "next best thing". Since we will most > likely NOT be able to bring our beloved PC's, bring lots of PICTURES! > > Here's a link with all the info/details for the show (Click on > "Chicago"): > > http://www.motorcycleshows.com/index2.html > > Maybe Honda will have the new X-Wing there?? Maybe a PC > replacement??? :-) > > BTW - also (as a sidebar) ... The Chicago Auto Show at Mc Cormick > Place on Lake Shore Drive is ALSO that same weekend (and it runs > through the 20th). This event is also worth attending... > > http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/ > > I will probably being staying out towards the West suburbs > (Naperville), since I know that area VERY well, and am very familiar > with the accommodations. There is a very nice Wyndham Hotel that has > "reasonable" rates ($75/night) They are 2 minutes from I-90, which is > a MAJOR E-W corridor through the entire Chicago area. > > Just thought if others are going, we might as well meet at least one > time during the event. Email me w/ any questions. > > Rich Fenwick > Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "Emile Nossin" , Subject: Re: PC800: test Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:31:53 -0800 I know he passed, I am not sure that he signalled. Lee Barker -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger To: Emile Nossin ; PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 5:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: test >HE CHEATED! I SAW HIM..HE CHEATED! >QUICK...LOOK UNDER HIS NOTE BOOK! >__________________________________________________ >On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 02:23:43 +0100, you wrote: > >-->Did I pass ? >-->: ) >--> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: Job Chithalan >-->To: >-->Sent: maandag 6 december 1999 2:21 >-->Subject: PC800: test >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Visit the PC800 web page at >-->To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >-->message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >-->To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >***************************************************** > >What you do speaks so loudly that I can not >hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson > >***************************************************** >Roger... > >home page URL given upon request. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:47:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:47:29 EST Subject: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Sure it's a futuristic design, but guess who else rides a Pacific Coast -- Harrison Ford. I'm attending a 4 week course in Charlottesville, Virginia and one of the other atendees owns a Honda Goldwing and mentioned that he has a picture of Harrison Ford riding his PC. I asked him to send it to me so that it can be scanned and sent up for our website. Will pursue. Gordon Creed 96 PC800 Charlottesville -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.megsinet.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) 8 Dec 1999 19:26:48 -0600 (CST) id TAA00386; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:26:01 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:26:01 -0600 From: Paul Novak Subject: Re: PC800: PC passenger backrest (FREE) To: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pnovak@megsinet.com cute :-) really, thanks for a wealth of information. paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 9 Dec 1999 06:04:01 -0600 (CST) by mail.zonnet.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMH2UM00.49J; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 13:03:58 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 13:01:51 +0100 From: Emile Nossin Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? To: W7KJD@aol.com, PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Sure it's a futuristic design, but guess who else rides a Pacific Coast -- Harrison Ford >Gordon Creed Interesting, Harrison has been known to have a ST according to some on the ST list. In fact they have a picture of him on his ST: http://www.st1100.org/photo.cgi?job=VIS&id=51&type=B Emile '92 ST ABS/TSC "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks "R. Fenwick" writes: > The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will be > held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont Convention > Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would like to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent deals on accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there with a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as Clearview windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:12:15 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? To: E-mile@zonnet.nl, W7KJD@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/9/99 5:04:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, E-mile@Zonnet.nl writes: << Interesting, Harrison has been known to have a ST according to some on the ST list. In fact they have a picture of him on his ST: >> That may be true, but I do not think that any of us should hold that against him. He probably saves the PC for when he wants to do some REAL riding!!! ;-) Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:10:12 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks To: libssd@emory.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: >"R. Fenwick" writes: > >> The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will >be >> held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont >Convention >> Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. > >Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the >same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would >like >to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent deals >on >accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there >with >a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as >Clearview >windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: >libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the list from their website. I don't recall the exact URL, but I know you can get to it through the www.toyota.com site. As I recall there is an "Events" button. December 10-12, 1999 San Mateo County Expo Center San Mateo, CA January 14-16, 2000 America's Center St. Louis, MO January 21-23, 2000 Pennsylvania Convention Center Philadelphia, PA January 28-30, 2000 IX Center Cleveland, OH February 4-6, 2000 Jacob K. Javits Convention Center New York, NY February 11-13, 2000 Rosemont Convention Center Rosemont, IL March 8-12, 2000 Daytona International Speedway Daytona Beach, FL March 17-19, 2000 Cobb Galleria Atlanta, GA March 24-26, 2000 Minneapolis Convention Center Minneapolis, MN > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'PC800 Rider'" , "'libssd@emory.edu'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:34:25 -0500 If anyone is interested, the show is also being held in Cleveland Ohio on January 28-30th at the IX COnvention Center. Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of PC800 Rider Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:10 AM To: libssd@emory.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks libssd@emory.edu writes: >"R. Fenwick" writes: > >> The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will >be >> held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont >Convention >> Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. > >Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the >same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would >like >to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent deals >on >accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there >with >a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as >Clearview >windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: >libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the list from their website. I don't recall the exact URL, but I know you can get to it through the www.toyota.com site. As I recall there is an "Events" button. December 10-12, 1999 San Mateo County Expo Center San Mateo, CA January 14-16, 2000 America's Center St. Louis, MO January 21-23, 2000 Pennsylvania Convention Center Philadelphia, PA January 28-30, 2000 IX Center Cleveland, OH February 4-6, 2000 Jacob K. Javits Convention Center New York, NY February 11-13, 2000 Rosemont Convention Center Rosemont, IL March 8-12, 2000 Daytona International Speedway Daytona Beach, FL March 17-19, 2000 Cobb Galleria Atlanta, GA March 24-26, 2000 Minneapolis Convention Center Minneapolis, MN > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:43:18 -0500 To: Selden Deemer From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > >Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the >same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would like >to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent deals on >accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there with >a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as Clearview >windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. > hi Selden. Rob and Leslie from Sport Touring Accessories will be at the Atlanta show. I was speaking with them a few weeks ago and they confirmed that they are doing the motorcycle show circuit for all the Cycle World shows. Tim sent you the schedule, but you can view it on-line at http://www.motorcycleshows.com . If there is a specific item you want from them, like a Clearview, a cruise control, lights, etc. then it would be a good idea to call them and arrange for them to 'hold' the item for you at the show so it is not gone by the time you get there. I helped them out at Americade last year, and there were quite a few people disappointed because the shield they wanted wasn't in stock. I was doing installations, and I installed at least 7 PC800 shields, as well as a few ST1100 and Concours shields as well. The Clearview shields were a popular item. Take care... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 11:16:32 -0500 Subject: PC800: Clearview installations at Americade To: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >> >>Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the >>same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would >like >>to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent >deals on >>accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there >with >>a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as >Clearview >>windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. >> > > >hi Selden. > >Rob and Leslie from Sport Touring Accessories will be at the >Atlanta >show. I was speaking with them a few weeks ago and they confirmed >that they are doing the motorcycle show circuit for all the Cycle >World shows. Tim sent you the schedule, but you can view it >on-line >at http://www.motorcycleshows.com . > >If there is a specific item you want from them, like a Clearview, >a >cruise control, lights, etc. then it would be a good idea to call >them and arrange for them to 'hold' the item for you at the show >so >it is not gone by the time you get there. I helped them out at >Americade last year, and there were quite a few people >disappointed >because the shield they wanted wasn't in stock. I was doing >installations, and I installed at least 7 PC800 shields, as well >as a >few ST1100 and Concours shields as well. The Clearview shields >were >a popular item. > >Take care... > >fsl :-) > Hey I know you now Francois. You were that foreign laborer at the STA both who was also doing internal fairing cleaning on ST1100's while installing ClearView shields. I remember passing by while you were doing some elbow deep cleaning on the inside of one in the blazing Sun. :-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: libssd@emory.edu, "'pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:22:44 -0800 I will be attending the California show on the 12th (this Sunday), hope to see some other PCs in the parking lot. Parking has been free for those arriving by bike. Weather permitting, I will have my new '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer in tow. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:10 AM > To: libssd@emory.edu > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks > > libssd@emory.edu writes: > >"R. Fenwick" writes: > > > >> The 19th Annual Cycle World International Motorcycle Show will > >be > >> held the weekend of Feb. 11-12-13, 2000 at the Rosemont > >Convention > >> Center in Rosemont (suburban Chicago) Illinois. > > > >Where did you get this information? Does it list the dates for the > >same show in Atlanta? They were here last February, and I would > >like > >to attend again if they come back. There were some excellent deals > >on > >accessories. The folks from Sport Touring Accessories were there > >with > >a number of items of specific interest to PC owners, such as > >Clearview > >windscreends, SAENG edging, safety lights, etc. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Selden Deemer > >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: > >libssd@emory.edu > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the list from their website. I don't recall the exact URL, > but I know you can get to it through the www.toyota.com site. As I > recall there is an "Events" button. > > December 10-12, 1999 > San Mateo County Expo Center > San Mateo, CA > > January 14-16, 2000 > America's Center > St. Louis, MO > > January 21-23, 2000 > Pennsylvania Convention Center > Philadelphia, PA > > January 28-30, 2000 > IX Center > Cleveland, OH > > February 4-6, 2000 > Jacob K. Javits Convention Center > New York, NY > > February 11-13, 2000 > Rosemont Convention Center > Rosemont, IL > > March 8-12, 2000 > Daytona International Speedway > Daytona Beach, FL > > March 17-19, 2000 > Cobb Galleria > Atlanta, GA > > March 24-26, 2000 > Minneapolis Convention Center > Minneapolis, MN > > > > > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:43:23 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: Subject: PC800: heat pads Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:44:22 -0500 Just wondering Has anybody ever used those heat pads that hunters use, while riding? Carl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pickett, Bruce D" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:22:04 -0800 I attended the International Motorcycle Show ( http://motorcycleshows.com/index2.html ) in Seattle on Saturday, December 4. Yes, bikes parked for free inside the exhibit hall's covered parking. I arrived 45 minutes after the doors opened, and found a line at the ticket window that stretched for half a city block and took about 25 minutes of shuffling along to get my ticket. You can purchase advance tickets on the web, and I would probably do so in the future. Inside were lots of shiny machines, but no X-wings. BMW had an interesting display with a bare K1100 on an automated test bed that showed the workings of the suspension and drive train. I went to the Sport Touring Accessories booth to buy a Clearview windscreen, but they had run out of the size I wanted at the previous show. I did get a pretty good deal on Joe Rocket jacket and pants at the Seattle Cyclery booth. The AMA had a display at their booth of what motorcycles will look like if the government has its way: huge bu! mpers fore and aft; enclosures for the rider's legs; thermal shield around the exhaust; 3-foot tall "sissy bars"; air bag in the tank with impact sensor on the front bumper. I did not have a chance to watch "Team Xtreme", but it looked like it would have been a cool demonstration. Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > ---------- > From: Peter Noeth[SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:22 AM > To: libssd@emory.edu; 'pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us' > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks > > I will be attending the California show on the 12th (this Sunday), hope to see > some other PCs in the parking lot. Parking has been free for those arriving by > bike. Weather permitting, I will have my new '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer in > tow. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 13:19:55 -0500 Subject: Re: RE: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Peter_N1@verifone.com writes: >I will be attending the California show on the 12th (this Sunday), >hope to see >some other PCs in the parking lot. Parking has been free for those >arriving by >bike. Weather permitting, I will have my new '99 Bushtech Quantum >trailer in >tow. > >Regards, > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 >Bushtech >Quantum trailer. Cruel and inhuman taunting of ones good weather is not allowed on this list:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:28:20 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Arvid's Scooter on Steroids,dressed in Tupperware with accessories: Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:28:01 +0100 My new page with some of the extras mounted on/in My PC Sorry for the "not so good" pictures. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:41:02 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tony Morgano" To: "PC800 list" Subject: PC800: Test Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:41:15 -0500 Sorry for the waste of space. This is a test. I am having equipment problems. Thanks Tony Morgano -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:58:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Test Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:55:16 -0500 Don't feel bad. Most of us have been accused of wasting space at one time or another. Clay in NJ (where the Polar Bear Club has been blessed with beautiful Sundays every week, so far) 1989 PC800K1 "White Silk" 1987 VW Quantum GL5 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tony Morgano" To: "PC800 list" Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:41 PM Subject: PC800: Test > Sorry for the waste of space. This is a test. I am having equipment > problems. Thanks Tony Morgano > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:10:12 -0600 From: Kwood To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Gel pads Does anyone have experience with the gel pads for saddles? What are their levels of comfort? Are they worth the money? I've seen them advertised for about $50 bucks. Thanks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:58:49 -0500 To: Lkwood89@enteract.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" At 6:10 PM -0600 12/9/99, Kwood wrote: >Does anyone have experience with the gel pads for saddles? What are >their levels of comfort? Are they worth the money? I've seen them >advertised for about $50 bucks. > >Thanks I have a gel pad in the driver's seat of my PC800. It's the "Butt Buffer" brand, which I had installed while at Americade last year for $100. I have seen this guy at a few of the rallies, and he was at the Honda Homecoming as well. The PC800 seat is pretty big. He had a price of $49.99 at the booth, but that was for the Buell seats, I guess. The pad is a very high quality, leak proof gel pad that doesn't freeze, or harden, in the colder weather. I have seen some pads that were rock hard when October rolled around. He shaved some of the seat foam off and then inserted the pad, so the seat doesn't look like it has something inserted underneath it. Pros - The seat is very 'comfy' now. Dressed and ready to ride I weigh in at about 225lbs. With the stock seat I felt that I was crushing all of the foam. With the gel pad I don't sink in as far, and have better support. It also helps me from slouching, since I don't roll back onto my tailbone as much, now that there is added support. It makes the already smooth PC feel even smother. The gel is better at conforming to your butt imprint, and therefore provides better support. I can definitely ride for longer stretches with the gel pad. My butt will still get numb, but the recovery time once I step of the bike is very quick, whereas without the gel pad I would stay numb for while. Cons - The gel is better at conforming to your butt imprint, so what little ventilation you had is pretty much eliminated. Yes, I can ride for longer with the pad than I could without, but when I didn't have the pad I never had 'diaper rash'. The lack of ventilation is probably to blame. Summary - it works as advertised. I could rider longer and it is more comfortable than the stock seat. But...since I plan on attending the Y2K ride, and I don't want to have a 'diaper rash' the whole trip, I am thinking about getting a Corbin. I had a chance to try one this summer on my own bike, and I liked it. It is hard, but it provides all the right support. So....with that in mind, I will probably sell my stock 95 PC800 seat with 17,600 miles on it. It's in great shape, no rips, no tears, etc. I have no idea yet what it is worth, but it will be available within a few weeks if anyone is interested. Ride safe.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:06:32 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads To: Lkwood89@enteract.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/9/99 5:25:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, kwood89@ix.netcom.com writes: << Does anyone have experience with the gel pads for saddles? What are their levels of comfort? Are they worth the money? I've seen them advertised for about $50 bucks. >> Yes, I had an upholstery shop install one in my original seat. It was a help, but not a Godsend. The first time that I parked the bike in the sun for a couple of hours was a major mistake. The gel pad got so hot that I could not sit on the seat for over an hour. Even then, it was hot hot hot. In cold weather, the reverse is true, it gets hard and stiff. My advice: save towards a better seat. The gel just did not work for me. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:14:52 EST Subject: Re: PC800: heat pads To: cluft@uscom.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/9/99 10:48:06 AM Mountain Standard Time, cluft@uscom.com writes: << Has anybody ever used those heat pads that hunters use, while riding? >> Hi Carl Yes, I have and they work. I keep the chemical kind in my Givi box. I have Widder electric gloves now, but just in case something happens to them, I can fall back on the heat pads. What I do is activate them and simply stick one in each mitten. They got so warm that I had to halfway pull my hand out of the mittens to cool off a bit. I have also used the "toe warmers", but you need a little bit larger boot to get these in. Anything that you can use to make a cold ride into a warm one is worth having! Next year, I plan on having a Gerbing electric suit to wear. I love to ride, but living in Idaho, I have to dress for it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:36:49 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Bumar" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:56:48 -0500 Gordon Creed wrote: "Sure it's a futuristic design, but guess who else rides a Pacific Coast -- Harrison Ford. I'm attending a 4 week course in Charlottesville, Virginia and one of the other atendees (SIC) owns a Honda Goldwing and mentioned that he has a picture of Harrison Ford riding his PC." Gordon, I've seen that picture. It's of Harrison Ford on his black bike and the picture is taken from the front. He's on an ST1100. It could fool you if you don't own a PC, like it did to your Gold Wing owning friend. Rich Bumar 96 PC800T Orlando, FL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 21:36:14 -0600 From: Kwood To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Illinois Riders Have been reading the list and am glad to see that their are other PC riders in the Illinois area. I knew there was at least one through a siting on Roosevelt Rd in Westchester ( which provided the inspiration for me to purchase mine). This is my first bike, at 31 (late learner) and haven't had the chance to experience all the thrills of ownership since as it is a recent purchase, but am looking forward to many miles of pleasurable riding. Would like to join up with other PC riders in the Chicago area to head out this coming Spring. Keith Wood Lombard, IL 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:58:42 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: heat pads Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:59:37 -0600 Russ and All. If you are in need of heat on the go, and you don't want something that takes up a ton of room when you are on the road and not wearing it, check out the NEW Widder heated vest and sleeves. The sleeves snap on at the shoulders and pack into a little wad a little larger than your fist. They also make chaps that work the same way. The sleeves and the chaps are both made like chaps. They don't go all the way around your arms or legs, just the tops and fronts. Just enough to give you the heat you need and then pack away when you don't need heat. They are not thick and bulky so you don't look like the Michelin man when you are wearing them. A bunch of the Iron Butt/Long Distance riders tested these for Widder before he started making them and had a lot to do with the way they are designed. By riders, for riders. They can be seen at www.widder.com . Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: I have > Widder electric gloves now, but just in case something happens to them, I can > fall back on the heat pads. Next year, I plan on having a Gerbing electric suit to wear. I love > to ride, but living in Idaho, I have to dress for it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:33:10 -0500 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: "g.castle" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > I was doing installations, and I installed at least 7 PC800 shields, as well as a >few ST1100 and Concours shields as well. The Clearview shields were >a popular item. > >Take care... > >fsl :-) > ********************** ....and he did an excellent job too!!! Greg Castle 89 PC Keswick,ont. Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP Fri, 10 Dec 1999 05:00:05 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Prapuolenis" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Attention - IL, IN, WI, MI & IA folks Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:06:40 -0600 Importance: Normal Hey Listers, Count me in for the Rosemont show. I live in Wheaton and would love to get together with fellow listers at the show or possibly join folks for breakfast in the Naperville/Downer Grove/Lisle/Oakbrook area. Keep me posted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ~ @ \ ~ _|=>/ ~ (_)\(_) Michael Prapuolenis '94 PC 800 - Ol' Black Magic Wheaton, Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:37:24 -0500 Please do! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? >Sure it's a futuristic design, but guess who else rides a Pacific Coast -- Harrison Ford. I'm attending a 4 week course in Charlottesville, Virginia and one of the other atendees owns a Honda Goldwing and mentioned that he has a picture of Harrison Ford riding his PC. I asked him to send it to me so that it can be scanned and sent up for our website. Will pursue. > >Gordon Creed >96 PC800 >Charlottesville >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4F351E0254; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:49:39 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Norloff" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 99 08:49:39 -0500 To: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent >Summary - it works as advertised. I could rider longer and it is >more comfortable than the stock seat. But...since I plan on >attending the Y2K ride, and I don't want to have a 'diaper rash' the >whole trip, I am thinking about getting a Corbin. A wooden bead seat cover does a nice job of providing summer ventilation to your 'sitting-on' parts. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:07:50 -0500 Subject: PC800: wooden beads I can vouch for the wooden beads as well . . the ventilation keeps you dry, which is half the battle of butt-burn. The other is pressure points, which the beads help with as well, because you can move around only slightly and you get an entirely new set of pressure points. Not as cool as a corbin, but at $12.50 they're a very cost-effective way to make your long rides more tolerable. On the way up to Ohio for the Honda Homecoming, I didn't have the beads, and butt-pain was a MAJOR issue. I picked up the beads from a vendor, and the ride home was much better: no butt pain for two long days in the saddle, using the stock seat. Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 "Chris Norloff" @hpc.uh.edu on 12/10/99 08:49:39 AM Please respond to "Chris Norloff" Sent by: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "List-PC800" cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent >Summary - it works as advertised. I could rider longer and it is >more comfortable than the stock seat. But...since I plan on >attending the Y2K ride, and I don't want to have a 'diaper rash' the >whole trip, I am thinking about getting a Corbin. A wooden bead seat cover does a nice job of providing summer ventilation to your 'sitting-on' parts. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:03:15 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Re: Arvid's Scooter on Steroids,dressed in Tupperware with accessories: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:03:13 +0100 Updated page with a few new (and some better images)at: http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/PCextras.html Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:22:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:22:42 EST Subject: PC800: It LIVES!!!! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Greetings,listers. I've been lurking on the list, these past several months... Reading with undisguisable envy your depictions of rides and riding, your experiences with your PCs. Watching the local weather grow crisp and cool as I sat, motorcycle-less due to my excessively bad experience with Zurich insurance company- after one of their insured slammed into my motorcycle. Quick recap- the bike went down on July 29th, and I hadn't gotten it repaired and returned in the many months between then and now. Between the machinations of the insurance company and the scarce availability of frame members and structral parts for the bike... I've been grounded. Last week, the last part- the framework for the trunk- which I'd finally asked after on this list- arrived.(And to those who offered either the part, or their help in locating it, my bike shop refused to back the work with a non factory, OEM part. Thanks to all for the offers- proving, again, that this list is one helluva resource.) The shop installed it, but they'd forgotten to get clearance from the insurance company for the additional repair. After another sweaty week, waiting for approval, my new friends in the service department of Ramer's got in touch with the appraiser and pretty much rammed approval through. The upshot.. Yesterday, I picked up the bike. And rode. First time in _months_. Interestingly, the bike feels radically different. Up until the accident, Xena (the bike) was a nice, loose, low mileage used motorcycle. There was a little play here and there, a little rattle... But she felt mature, tested and confortable. No matter the conditions- encluding the worst rainstorm I've ever seen, let alone tried to ride through- I always felt stable and secure. _This_ is, in many ways, a brand new frame and suspension, and the bike feels much tighter and more aggressive. The handling characteristics are the same, but it feels a lot different going through the paces. Whereas the thing once felt sort of.. Well.. Like it was taking care of me as much as I was taking care of it, kinda motherly.(And I feel that you will all know what I mean, as I get increasingly philosophic about the percieved character of a pile of metal and parts.) It now feels totally male. Aggressive and eager to roll. As a result- I feel like I've been given a new bike, in place of the old. Bearing in mind the tradition amongst this membership of naming these bikes... I have decided to rechristen my black clad warrior princess... It's new designation- which seemed to leap into mind during yesterday's brief ride- Sinatra. Tuxedo clad and elegant, at once mainstream- a Honda, for goodness' sakes- and iconoclastic. Something that resists pgeonholing and classifying, and- forgive me- a machine that definately, defiantly, goes it's own way. So.. Me and the bike are back on the active list, and I'm off- in this 30 degree weather- to take a little shakedown cruise. Thanks again for all your help. Zurich Insurance sucks. Kendall Gray 95 PC + a great many 98 and 99 year parts Sinatra -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:37:28 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Need the left mirror housing Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:37:25 +0100 I should have a little spin today and on My way backwards out of the = garage , the left mirror housing edging met a little heavy with the = trash bin.!!!!!! It went in pieces (the mirror housing!!!!) as a light bulb dropped to = the floor. Have anyone else experienced that the stuff is so brittle?? So, I need a new housing or a complete secondhand left mirror assembly.=20 OK then, out with the part.No's please, those of you having the = fische... or.. anyone crashed again and have a left mirror laying around for sale = ??? Greetings Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- You can respond to this e-mail online. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:53:59 -0500 To: KGray96057@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: It LIVES!!!! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 10:22 AM -0500 12/10/99, KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > >So.. Me and the bike are back on the active list, and I'm off- in this 30 >degree weather- to take a little shakedown cruise. > Congrats Kendall. I'm sure this summer felt a lot longer for you than it did for any of us. It's too bad about the situation regarding your PC. You would think that having insurance means you'll be taken care of should something happen. Unfortunately, that is seldom the case. I have been re-evaluating my insurance needs in the last few months, as it applies to the PC800. Here in Canada motorcycle insurance is not cheap. I pay about $900 CDN ($600US) for $1 Million liability, and full coverage such as fire, theft, collision. I dropped vandalism from my coverage last year. It was worth $282 per year, on its own! My coverage has a $500 deductible. If I dropped the collision portion, the rate would drop to about $300 CDN ($200US). So....every year I pay $600 CDN for the collision. If something happens, and it is my fault, and I need to make a claim, then I pay the first $500. So, $1,100 out of my pocket in the year I need to make a claim, and $600 a year in those years I do not make a claim. Plus, if I make a claim for $2,000, then my rates go up to cover the expense! Let's assume 1 claim every 5 years. I'm looking at $3,000 for coverage, plus the $500 deductible in the year of the claim, for a total of $3,500. Ouch.... I'm seriously thinking about putting the $600 a year into a 1 year GIC, then if ever something happens I can take it out and use it to pay the repairs needed. If nothing happens, then in 5 years I'll have a bike worth a couple of grand, and $3,000 plus interest, that I can use to trade in towards the new X-Wing which should be out by then! Yup....the more I look at it, the more I think it would be cheaper to 'insure' myself. The real loss would be if I was involved in an 'at fault' accident that did some serious damage to the bike, making it a financial write off. If I ever do that, I figure I'll be more worried about my health than my bike. If I had collision, and wrote off the bike, then the insurance company would settle, I would buy something newer and more expensive, and they would charge me two arms, a leg, and a testicle to insure the replacement. I'm not sure if I would be further ahead that way, or to just take the loss. What to do......what to do........I'm glad the winter is here, I can have some time to figure this out.... Ride safe.... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:26:51 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC 800 List , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Arvid_L=F8vik=27?= Subject: RE: PC800: Need the left mirror housing Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:26:49 +0100 > It went in pieces (the mirror housing!!!!) as a light bulb dropped to the > floor. Have anyone else experienced that the stuff is so brittle?? > Arvid > Was there no steel wire attached to the mirror assembly that could have prevented the drop ? Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Headlights A very informative discussion about headlight options erupted on the Hawk list in the past few days. One of the outcomes was a pointer to a web site that has very good information, and a lot of debunking. See: http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:47:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Headlights To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: >A very informative discussion about headlight options erupted on >the >Hawk list in the past few days. One of the outcomes was a pointer >to >a web site that has very good information, and a lot of debunking. > >See: http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: >libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Selden, a very interesting and informative web site. I always wondered how they got 85W out of a 55W bulb. Now I know, they don't! > Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Headlights Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:16:07 -0800 That, and the fact that the wattage rating has no direct correspondence in light output for light bulbs. The wattage actually is telling you how much power the light bulb draws (wattage=voltage*current) and not how much light the bulb produces. You can check this the next time you go to the store and buy household bulbs, which usually have both a wattage and lumen ratings on the package. Check the lumen ratings for a 40w and 100w bulbs and you will notice the 100w bulb does not have twice the lumen output of the 40w bulb. Brighter yes, but not over twice as bright as you would expect by just comparing the wattage ratings. Light bulb filaments can be made more or less efficient as far as the amount of light produced per watt of energy used. The early Edison lamps were a good example, averaging 25 watts of energy required, but only producing a fraction of the light a modern 25w lamp does. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 1:47 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Headlights > > libssd@emory.edu writes: > >A very informative discussion about headlight options erupted on > >the > >Hawk list in the past few days. One of the outcomes was a pointer > >to > >a web site that has very good information, and a lot of debunking. > > > >See: http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/ > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Selden Deemer > >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: > >libssd@emory.edu > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks Selden, a very interesting and informative web site. I > always wondered how they got 85W out of a 55W bulb. Now I know, > they don't! > > > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:47:26 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: wooden beads Those wooden beads sound interesting to me. . . Anyone know of a good source that will fit the PC? I might want to give them a try. How much do they cost? How do they attach? Tony dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > > I can vouch for the wooden beads as well . . the ventilation keeps you dry, > which is half the battle of butt-burn. The other is pressure points, which > the beads help with as well, because you can move around only slightly and > you get an entirely new set of pressure points. > > Not as cool as a corbin, but at $12.50 they're a very cost-effective way to > make your long rides more tolerable. On the way up to Ohio for the Honda > Homecoming, I didn't have the beads, and butt-pain was a MAJOR issue. I > picked up the beads from a vendor, and the ride home was much better: no > butt pain for two long days in the saddle, using the stock seat. > > Doug Wilkerson > ..................................................................................................... > > IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 > > "Chris Norloff" @hpc.uh.edu on 12/10/99 08:49:39 AM > > Please respond to "Chris Norloff" > > Sent by: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > To: "List-PC800" > cc: > Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Francois Saint Laurent > >Summary - it works as advertised. I could rider longer and it is > >more comfortable than the stock seat. But...since I plan on > >attending the Y2K ride, and I don't want to have a 'diaper rash' the > >whole trip, I am thinking about getting a Corbin. > > A wooden bead seat cover does a nice job of providing summer ventilation to > your 'sitting-on' parts. > > Chris Norloff > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:58:18 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: wooden beads To: tonylmiller@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I don't profess to have the wooden bead seat experience that Doug has after his trip from Ohio to Alabama (please not the happy butt thread again), but I did get a catalog recently from Whitehorse Press, North Conway, NH that has black wooden beads listed for $17.50. From the photo they look like a good match to the shape of the Pacific Coast seat. Their web site is www.whitehorsepress.com and the phone is 800-531-1133. This is all I know about them. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" tonylmiller@yahoo.com writes: >Those wooden beads sound interesting to me. . . > >Anyone know of a good source that will fit the PC? I might want >to give >them a try. How much do they cost? How do they attach? > >Tony > >dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: >> >> I can vouch for the wooden beads as well . . the ventilation >keeps you dry, >> which is half the battle of butt-burn. The other is pressure >points, which >> the beads help with as well, because you can move around only >slightly and >> you get an entirely new set of pressure points. >> >> Not as cool as a corbin, but at $12.50 they're a very >cost-effective way to >> make your long rides more tolerable. On the way up to Ohio for >the Honda >> Homecoming, I didn't have the beads, and butt-pain was a MAJOR >issue. I >> picked up the beads from a vendor, and the ride home was much >better: no >> butt pain for two long days in the saddle, using the stock seat. >> >> Doug Wilkerson >> >..................................................................................................... >> >> IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions >> Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 >> >> "Chris Norloff" @hpc.uh.edu on 12/10/99 >08:49:39 AM >> >> Please respond to "Chris Norloff" >> >> Sent by: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> >> To: "List-PC800" >> cc: >> Subject: Re: PC800: Gel pads >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Francois Saint Laurent >> >Summary - it works as advertised. I could rider longer and it >is >> >more comfortable than the stock seat. But...since I plan on >> >attending the Y2K ride, and I don't want to have a 'diaper >rash' the >> >whole trip, I am thinking about getting a Corbin. >> >> A wooden bead seat cover does a nice job of providing summer >ventilation to >> your 'sitting-on' parts. >> >> Chris Norloff > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 1999 16:25:36 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: Subject: PC800: wooden beads Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:31:39 -0500 Importance: Normal I tried the wooden beads on my long ride from Dc to Montana... for me they did not work for Long distance riding but perhaps for shorter legs they would. Dont spend more than $6 though...go down to yr local auto part store, buy a complete wooden bead seat cover for your car (you can find them in black), cut off the head rest portion (they are designed not to come apart, simply lay it on your seat and then I tied it with black nylon to the grap rails. No need to tie it wear you sit; it conforms perfectly. Then you can flip it out of the way for a change of pace. I alternated every gas tank (175 miles) of sitting on it or flipping it up out of the way. It does make you sit higher so be prepared for more wind noise etc if yr windshield is perfect now... My 2 cents yr mileage may vary. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > I don't profess to have the wooden bead seat experience that Doug > has after his trip from Ohio to Alabama (please not the happy butt > thread again), but I did get a catalog recently from Whitehorse > Press, North Conway, NH that has black wooden beads listed for > $17.50. From the photo they look like a good match to the shape of > the Pacific Coast seat. Their web site is www.whitehorsepress.com > and the phone is 800-531-1133. This is all I know about them. > > Tim Davies > tonylmiller@yahoo.com writes: > >Those wooden beads sound interesting to me. . . > > > >Anyone know of a good source that will fit the PC? I might want > >to give > >them a try. How much do they cost? How do they attach? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:36:47 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Signing off Hi everyone... I'm signing off for a week or so. I've got some travelling to do.... Ride safe..... fsl ;-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:33:58 -0600 From: Tony Miller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: wooden beads (thanks!) Thanks for the good info, as always, guys. Tony Bob Broeking wrote: > > I tried the wooden beads on my long ride from Dc to Montana... for me they > did not work for Long distance riding but perhaps for shorter legs they > would. Dont spend more than $6 though...go down to yr local auto part > store, buy a complete wooden bead seat cover for your car (you can find them > in black), cut off the head rest portion (they are designed not to come > apart, simply lay it on your seat and then I tied it with black nylon to the > grap rails. No need to tie it wear you sit; it conforms perfectly. Then > you can flip it out of the way for a change of pace. I alternated every gas > tank (175 miles) of sitting on it or flipping it up out of the way. It does > make you sit higher so be prepared for more wind noise etc if yr windshield > is perfect now... My 2 cents yr mileage may vary. Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > > > I don't profess to have the wooden bead seat experience that Doug > > has after his trip from Ohio to Alabama (please not the happy butt > > thread again), but I did get a catalog recently from Whitehorse > > Press, North Conway, NH that has black wooden beads listed for > > $17.50. From the photo they look like a good match to the shape of > > the Pacific Coast seat. Their web site is www.whitehorsepress.com > > and the phone is 800-531-1133. This is all I know about them. > > > > Tim Davies > > > tonylmiller@yahoo.com writes: > > >Those wooden beads sound interesting to me. . . > > > > > >Anyone know of a good source that will fit the PC? I might want > > >to give > > >them a try. How much do they cost? How do they attach? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:53:11 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: wooden beads Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:51:30 -0600 The wooden beads are great for riding if you are not wearing a thick/stiff riding suit as I assume Bob was. It allows the air to get to parts of your bottom that it normally wouldn't get to. It also lets the blood flow to the parts that the beads aren't mashed against. You can adjust your position by 1/2" and be setting on fresh butt while the mashed part recovers. I have an amply padded butt and would guess that with a bony but, the beads would not be as comfy, no matter how you sit. With a thick/stiff riding suit, the pressure is going to be spread pretty evenly across the behind and at the same time not allow the feel good of the air flow. YMMV. Not tested in a lab, just telling you what my butt tells me. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: PC800: wooden beads > I tried the wooden beads on my long ride from Dc to Montana... for me they > did not work for Long distance riding but perhaps for shorter legs they > would -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:10:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:10:14 EST Subject: PC800: Re: Canadian Insurance To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Here in the states,I often wonder if we have quite the proper perspective. For example, My parents and I were in London, a few years back. My mother commented on how cheap the gasoline seemed to be. I had to point out that the exchange rate equalled about a dollar sixty per pound... And that the fuel was dispensed in litres, rather than gallons. The result being that the gas cost many dollars _more_ per gallon. I think Americans tend to consider Canada as... More of a neighbour than a country.Without spending time there- as I have (Winnipeg)- it's hard to get any sense of the place in our national awareness. Your comments about your insurance rates really knocked me for a loop. If it weren't against the law, I'd have gone to self insurance on my vehicles years ago.. More foe convenience than cost... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:55:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:55:46 EST Subject: PC800: WhooooooooooooHhhaaaahhhhhhh! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I taped an industrial training video this afternoon- $525 for a few hours largely trying to avoid the predations of the caterer, not bad work if you can get it. ( Or if a friend can get it for you.) I intended to ride the bike, but it was 21 degrees out when I left the apartment... And was only supposed to get up to around 40. On the way back from the shoot, I grabbed up a set of Carhart "Arctic" coveralls and a balacava. (sp) face mask. Got home, got into the snow suit, and rolled out on the bike. I cannot say enough about the snowsuit. Several hours out in below freezing weather.. And I was toasty the whole time. (I only came in when I got too tired to ride.) It gets a whole lot colder up here... But I suspect that the addition of military extreme cold thermal longjohns and a sweater will keep me comfortable down twoard zero. Carhart meant for the suit to be used by cold weather cosntruction workers. It's insulated, got pockets a plenty and water and wind proofing. It's a bit of a bear to shrug into-instant flashback to childhood- bit very comfortable when on. The best bit- compared to what they charge for similar cold weather biker suits, it's dead cheap. Got mine for about $150. All it needs is a strip or two of reflecto tape and the odd Honda patch... As for the ride.. Months of car travel has left me a little... Parched. I like my car. I love my little Tracker, actually. Good mileage, great 4x4- for my purposes- cheap to run. But riding a bike is sonething else entirely. A meditative, tranquillizing experience. I've gotten into the habit of referring to it as floating, actually. It's been a long, long time since I had that feeling. Drifting down the road at speed, relaxed yet hyper aware. No radio, no windscreen, no top. Just me and the night. rolling through corners and hurling ourselves along the empty streets. I got so blissed out that it took about a half an hour just to wipe the grin off my face. Sorta like a long warm bath.. In motion. Added benefit- passing all these people in their cars, coccooned in these metal bubbles, watching the road from behind all of this steel and aluminium. They all looked waxy and distracted.. And amazed to be overhauled by a maniac in a snowmobile suit on an odd looking motorcycle. "Isn't that cold?" "Nope." "What the hell kind of motorcycle is that?" "Honda Pacific Coast. " "Where's the motor?" "Inside." "Damn... " I've _sooooo_ missed this. In fact... I believe it might be time to suit up for another ride. Think I'll head over to Lincoln... Look at the capitol building at night... A nice, hundred mile round trip...Or... I am kinda tired. Got a lot to do in the morning.. Maybe I'll just go out and stare at the bike for a while. Any of you ever catch yourselves doung this? Just.. Staring at it. Admiring the shape, remembering great rides... My girlfriend used to tell me that I had an unnatural affection for this bike. Used to try and remind me that it was just machinery, just transportation. She's never ridden. Riding along on the back isn't at all the same.She's never salvaged a lousy day with a few hours, floating alongside the river, chasing the reflection of the running lights. Never polished the chrome, thinking about how good the bike looks, clean and shiny.Never sat in an overly airconditioned cubicle, counting down the minutes until, free, you can toss a leg over and just plain pass the miles... Never made a traffic jam go away with a clever turn down a sidestreet that you could never pull off in a car. Or ridden alongside someone on a different machine, someone with whom you have nothing in common save that flowering, maniacal grin of the born two wheeler. Abnormally attached? Hell no! Kendall C. Gray 95 PC 800 Back amounst the truly living. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:24:12 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: More on lights The same thread on the Hawk list included an interesting new twist. One guy measured the voltage being delivered to his headlight: a measly 10 volts. He ran a heavy gauge wire directly from the battery into a relay, and was able to increase the voltage delivered to the headlight by about 25%, with a fairly dramatic effect on headlight output. I plan to look into this, first on the Hawk, which is currently laid up for the winter and doesn't require stripping so much stuff to get to the electrics. Has anyone tried this on a PC? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:59:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:59:31 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Who wants to try and get him on this list.... I know someone at his agency..... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Boz" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:05:32 -0000 I've got a '97 with 12,800 miles, tall clearview (and original), driving lights & back rest. Just took delivery of my new ZRX1100 & need to sell. $6,300,bo Syracuse NY. jboz@sprynet.com -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VERTIABLE2@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:12 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 >I'M TRYING TO FIND A PC800 TO BUY - WHERE CAN I FIND ONE? > > >PB >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:53:46 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Mirror broken Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:56:48 -0800 Don't forget it is TWO parts ... one for the housing and one for the = trim piece around the edge. No, I don't know the part numbers. -----Original Message----- From: Arvid L=F8vik To: PC 800 List Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:51 AM Subject: PC800: Mirror broken =20 =20 Hi again, Could someone please give me the Part No's on the the LH = mirror housing. I don't know if the housing comes complete or it's different parts = and No's on it. =20 I have put a couple of photos to show the damaged area here: =20 http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/Mirror.html=20 =20 =20 =20 Regards Arvid =20 =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------- You can respond to this E-mail online. If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 15279399 If you don't have ICQ you can page me through: * My Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) * Or you can send me E-mail to 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com You can download ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ Include your ICQ details in YOUR e-mail signature: = http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Home Telephone Number is: +47-51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- can respond to this E-mail online.
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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ray Brannum" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:44:57 -0600 I am a new rider who just attended the beginners safety school. Thought I was doing pretty well and rode my bike for the first time today. I was pulling up to a stop sign at a 4 way stop and was very close to the curb. I had the right of way, but it appeared the a car from my left was going to run the sign. I had stopped and was just beginning to make a right turn when I decided that I had better see if she was going to stop. I was only going about 2 or 3 mph and used the hand brake to stop. I was going to put down both feet to stabilize the PC. Well the gutter on my right was about 2 inches below the pavement level. Dropped the bike to the right. I am sure an experienced rider would not have had this problem, but thought there might be some new riders who could learn something from my accident. Broke my right mirror housing and cover and put some rash on an otherwise beautiful 1995 PC Ray Brannum Little Wild Bird 1995 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by eml01, id smtpdAAAa000su; Sun, 12 Dec 99 01:27:36 +0000 ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:28:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Frank P. Cook" To: Ray Brannum cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 oooo ... the memories this brings back! I did very nearly the same exact thing 3 years ago. We have ALL done similiar things. You are right. A rider with experience would not have done that. I would not do that. Glad you are ok, and are now so much the wiser! _________________________________________________ - Frank Cook - On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Ray Brannum wrote: > I am a new rider who just attended the beginners safety school. Thought I > was doing pretty well and rode my bike for the first time today. > > I was pulling up to a stop sign at a 4 way stop and was very close to the > curb. I had the right of way, but it appeared the a car from my left was > going to run the sign. I had stopped and was just beginning to make a right > turn when I decided that I had better see if she was going to stop. I was > only going about 2 or 3 mph and used the hand brake to stop. I was going to > put down both feet to stabilize the PC. Well the gutter on my right was > about 2 inches below the pavement level. Dropped the bike to the right. > > I am sure an experienced rider would not have had this problem, but thought > there might be some new riders who could learn something from my accident. > > Broke my right mirror housing and cover and put some rash on an otherwise > beautiful 1995 PC > > Ray Brannum > Little Wild Bird > 1995 PC > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: I found a hort Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:07:13 -0800 Now we can be cohorts. My wife came home this afternoon and announced there was a PC parked up the street at the thrift store. I drove the truck up there--no time for helmet stuff--and made the acquaintance of Mr. Baumann, who lives not far from me--a few blocks--and rides a beautiful 97 red 'un. We chatted briefly, exchanged business cards, and agreed that we'd ride together when the weather returns to niceness (Today just being a day you'd go out and ride a bit in the interest of the oil, moving parts and the battery). I told him that to date I had thought I was the only PC owner in Central Oregon. He said there was a pearl one around, too. So watch out Columbus, Ohio! You may not have the most PCs per capita! Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 Front Fender Follies Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:37:41 -0500 Hi Listers, Some time ago I decided that the 89 front clamshell fender affair had gotta go. So I've heard of some ST1100 fenders being fitted, but I went with a 97 or 98 Red front fender which was soon painted to match the 89 pearl white by our own Chuck Chiodini. He also prepped and painted all my crash bar covers and the air cleaner shroud/w gas filler door. Chuck's paint work was reasonably priced and flawless. Well before I start telling what's entailed in a changeover Those with the 97-99 PC800's this front fender has a hole on the left side about 2 inches behind where the forks go through. What goes in this hole? Someone get a part number for me too. I went to the dealer and the microfische shows nothing. on the fender. I dropped the forks and the 89's have some things on the forks that has to be cut/grinded off. Where the fender mounts are has to be ground off. one in front and one above the brake bosses in back. I cut off then ground flush with a bench grinder. Up on the top end of the forks is a flat sided boss on both forks too, these were ground down to flush. On the inside of the fork about 4 inches from the top is another flat sided boss. I ground these flush too. I took a flat edge screwdriver and carefully pried out the dust cover for the fork seal. I took out the top cap and pumped out the fork oil. To take off the fork end cap I used a female air tool hose coupling it's a hex shape and the same size of the hex hole on the cap. I used a deep well socket and spun it out. I pumped out all the oil and flushed it with mineral spirits pumping many times and changing the mineral spirirts to make sure all the crud is out of the fork. Hung it upside down to dry. BTW this lack of drain screws is a bummer. I pushed the fork all the way down. Masked off the sliderpipe and used a dual action air sander to totalally sand sown the grindings I'd done and clean up all the surfaces. Lots of casting seams and mold markings were cleaned off as well. I sprayed with auto primer and will sand and respray more tomorrow. The surfaces look good. Can't tell where I was grinding off the bosses. The fender mount clamps we're about $20 for the pair, the 4 bolts that mount them and 4 rubber caps to cover the bolts: all costs about $30 at your friendly Honda dealer. So if you want to do it. I got the fender for $55 (they are about $100 new), the paint by chuck $60 (it's a complicated 3 part process to do the white color...it costs more) and the $30 for the fender parts. About a $150 conversion. I hope I like the look. I hope you all will tell me what goes in the fender hole on the left side. I don't wanna hear tire either... Randy in Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:36:04 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 Front Fender Follies To: ashurst@thebest.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) <004401bf4449$dfc38f60$817b503f@radio> ashurst@thebest.net writes: >Well before I start telling what's entailed in a changeover Those >with the >97-99 PC800's this front fender has a hole on the left side about >2 inches >behind where the forks go through. What goes in this hole? >Someone get a >part number for me too. I went to the dealer and the microfische >shows >nothing >on the fender. I just braved my cold, dark garage to come up with your answer... a black plastic plug with a flat head is in that hole. It barely sticks out above the surface of the fender. I guess only Honda knows the true intent of the hole in that location Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Randy Ashurst" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 Front Fender Follies Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:41:38 -0800 Hiya Front Fender Friends... I put an ST1100 fender on my 95. It cost me $75 from the list and a can of spray paint I mentioned earlier. I also earlier kinda apologized for the look of the thing, but about the third time through the mineral spirit narrative I began to be really pleased with how mine looks. I just used those brackets and whacked off the front part and the rear part that would show. That left the nifty wire holders for the brake lines and the speedo. I painted the brackets to match the forks (which are, I agree, embarrassingly rough castings). I needed a bracket from the back of the bracket up to the upper mounting hole on the fender just behind the fork. I made two identical plates, roughly in the shape of a piece of pumpkin pie cut in the dark, and painted them black. They are of 3/16 aluminum. It all seems to work. I am always pleased when I notice it out there, front and center, announcing to the world that, yes, this is indeed a motorcycle and now that you know that, just let your eye enjoy what follows. All I can think of for the little depression in the back is that's where the ST1100 first aid kit is: a Ray O Vac flashlight to aid visually those who have chosen the Dark Side. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo" two Cushmans > I hope you all will tell me what goes in the fender hole on the left side. > I don't wanna hear tire either... > > Randy in Georgia > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: 96 PC for sale in Portland, Or Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:16:42 -0800 Today a friend and I rode down to Portland to check out a 96 PC for sale at Portland Motorcycle Co.. He was trying to trade in his Suzuki, but they couldn't reach an agreement on the final price & trade, so the bike is still there. In case someone else is interested, it's a 96 PC800 with 8,000 plus miles, stock Honda shield, heated grips, and a tall passenger back rest. It will need tires, the rear Dunlop is still legal, but the front one needs replacement now. It appears to have touched down on the right side, both crash guard covers are scraped, the front one is cracked. The right mirror housing is scraped lightly but does not appear to be broken. The left crash guard covers appear to have scrape something too, but barely noticeable. The rest of the Tupperware is untouched. We did not start the engine, I don't like to start up a cold engine just to hear it run and not ride it, and he wasn't buying it. The price is $4,800.00 US. It's at Portland Motorcycle, Phone: 503.255.5787 At least we got in a 400 mile ride today, even though most of it was in the rain. It was this or Christmas shopping with my wife, she understood. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Ray Brannum" , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:27:40 -0800 Don't feel to bad Ray, we all have moments like that. One time as a police officer I was backing my traffic bike into a dirt driveway that I had used hundreds of times to work radar out of, only this time I was about two feet to the left where I usually stop. As I was watching traffic I started to put my one foot down, but now I was beside a depression in the ground. Down the bike went, with driver's driving by and honking their horns at the silly cop trying to pick up his bike on a down hill slope. I didn't forget that any time soon. Life happens. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ray Brannum To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 4:52 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 >I am a new rider who just attended the beginners safety school. Thought I >was doing pretty well and rode my bike for the first time today. > >I was pulling up to a stop sign at a 4 way stop and was very close to the >curb. I had the right of way, but it appeared the a car from my left was >going to run the sign. I had stopped and was just beginning to make a right >turn when I decided that I had better see if she was going to stop. I was >only going about 2 or 3 mph and used the hand brake to stop. I was going to >put down both feet to stabilize the PC. Well the gutter on my right was >about 2 inches below the pavement level. Dropped the bike to the right. > >I am sure an experienced rider would not have had this problem, but thought >there might be some new riders who could learn something from my accident. > >Broke my right mirror housing and cover and put some rash on an otherwise >beautiful 1995 PC > >Ray Brannum >Little Wild Bird >1995 PC > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "'PC800'" Subject: PC800: The new PC800-6 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 06:02:26 -0800 Hi winterers... Bruce Pickett buried this reference in his introductory post in October and I missed it. I am reposting it for others who may have been as inattentive as I. Evidently Honda is going to rerelease the PC, but this time as a 6. And yes, it is going to be yellow. Perhaps someone else can sell decals that say "body by DeWalt." http://www.umw.com.pg/newequip/data/pc800-6.htm Lee Barker 95 "Secondo" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: obsessive compulsive confession Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 06:37:36 -0800 I admit to these deficiencies. I only hope there are others who share my shame. Read on. I didn't like the way my toolkit pliers felt. Rough. I took them apart into two plier. I daubed on some diamond lapping compound where the two halves meet. I replaced the nut with a better one and peened the end of the bolt. I put them on my desk at work. During lightweight phone conversations I would ply my pliers. They got smoother and smoother. I cleaned off the compound, added a zwerp of WD-39.95 (marked down from 40) and they are ready for service now. Am I sick, or is this just a winter thing? Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-eGroups-Return: rocheux@juno.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 06:40:16 -0800 From: "Rocky" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: is there anyone here? Who runs this group? Stan Rocklin, Fairfax VA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:56:01 EST Subject: Re: PC800: is there anyone here? To: rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/12/99 7:40:42 AM Mountain Standard Time, rocheux@juno.com writes: << Who runs this group? >> Hi Stan! I do, you do we all do. If you have input, and it is PC800 related, (that's mo torcycles, Lee!) then it is open to all. There is not a one of us on this list that has not benefited in some way from it. If you have something to share with us, or something to learn about the best motorcycle that Honda has ever built, then you are in the right place. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-eGroups-Return: welias1@tampabay.rr.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:57:28 -0800 From: "Bill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Hey Rocky No messages on here. Want to see whats going on. Poor ol Tampa Bill??????? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "PC800 List" Subject: Fw: PC800: The new PC800-6 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:21:52 -0500 Interesting machine but the power to weight ratio seems down a little at 378lbs per brake horsepower. and at 168,000 pounds, it would seem that there'd be a little too much inertia for the machine to be very flickable in the turns. I do like the fact that the machine is highly visable and I suspect would demand respect from other motorists; however, I think I'll keep the '95 model instead of trading for this new version. Jim -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker To: 'PC800' Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: PC800: The new PC800-6 >Hi winterers... > >Bruce Pickett buried this reference in his introductory post in October and >I missed it. I am reposting it for others who may have been as inattentive >as I. > >Evidently Honda is going to rerelease the PC, but this time as a 6. > >And yes, it is going to be yellow. Perhaps someone else can sell decals >that say "body by DeWalt." > >http://www.umw.com.pg/newequip/data/pc800-6.htm > >Lee Barker >95 "Secondo" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Jim Randall" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: The new PC800-6 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:35:52 -0800 > Interesting machine but the power to weight ratio seems down a little at > 378lbs per brake horsepower. and at 168,000 pounds, it would seem that > there'd be a little too much inertia for the machine to be very flickable in > the turns. I do like the fact that the machine is highly visable and I > suspect would demand respect from other motorists; however, I think I'll > keep the '95 model instead of trading for this new version. > > Jim On the other hand, one must consider the cargo carrying capacity. The new "hatchfront" concept is well developed, especially the ability to download your luggage with just the flick of a lever. But before we go further, I need to know if there is synthetic hydraulic oil. If there is, here we go again... Lee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: sean perini To: "'Arvid Løvik'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Mirror broken Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:28:57 -0800 howdy, I only have the Right mirror and housing components for a 90 at the = moment but I will call my honda dealer on Monday to get the L for an 89 = if you still need them. I'll list the ones I have (I don't know if they = translate to 89 and L in a reasonable way). What I paid in US dollars is = posted in the last column.=20 part part number price R housing 88125-mr5-013zc 58.99 R visor 88126-mr5-003zc 46.99 R bracket 88122-mr5-003 45.99 The visor is the thin rim of plastic the lines the rear aspect of the = housing. Ounce for ounce this may be the most expensive piece of plastic = on the planet. By the looks of it from you picture need the visor as = well. There are three major internal components. The bracket is the = largest - the other components all mount to it. Sean '90 new L mirror -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid L=F8vik [SMTP:lovik@writeme.com] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:50 AM To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Mirror broken << File: ATT00000.html >> Hi again, Could someone please give me the = Part No's on the the LH mirror housing. I don't know if the housing comes complete or it's different parts and = No's on it. I have put a couple of photos to show the damaged area here: http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/Mirror.html=20 =20 Regards Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- You can respond to this E-mail online. If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 15279399 If you don't have ICQ you can page me through: * My Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 = (go there and try it!) * Or you can send me E-mail to 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com You can download ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ Include your ICQ details in YOUR e-mail signature: = http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Home Telephone Number is: +47-51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. Fenwick" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Progressive must love torturing me... Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:06:50 -0600 Most everyone should already know that it took me three days to get a Progressive policy with a 3 month lay-away canceled, rewritten, and back into effect, due to policies at Progressive that I will not comment about. (i.e. they can't modify a policy with a layaway period to make it "continuous" coverage, a completely new policy has to be written as if you were a new customer off the street.) I received a quote in the mail from Progressive dated 12/1 that stated my "new" 12 month policy would be $243, and that was exactly the number that my agent had quoted me back in May, so I went with it. Yesterday, I received my policy in the mail, with all the documentation and so on, and the premium is $281. So, back to the drawing board. I wish Progressive would make up their mind! Literally, I will have to document what both Progressive themselves quoted me on 12/1, plus I have to document what my agent quoted me six months ago to try to convince them to give me this rate. The representative told me that it all may not work, and I may end up having to pay the $281. So, this will probably take another 2-3 days to straighten out. At this point, I almost DON'T want to be a Progressive customer. They don't seem to be able to run their own business. This really is starting to concern me as to what happens if I (God forbid) have to file a claim with these people. A classic case of that the right hand has no clue as to what the left hand is doing. If there is anyone out there with claims experience with Progressive, let me know how it went. If these people can't decide what to charge me, how can they decide what to pay out on a claim???? Before I spend another minute fighting this with Progressive, I'm getting a quote with Dairyland. If Dairyland can match or beat the $243, I'm DUMPING Progressive ASAP. Rich Fenwick Illinois -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:05:05 -0500 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: [Fwd: New PC 800] --------------143C57474584DB8A428EF651 Hey guys. I still get an Email occasionally asking about the new 1996 PC800s that my dealer had. They are all gone now. Maybe somebody on this list can help Larry. -- Pat McNew Snellville, GA 1998 Goldwing SE, GWWRA# 137763 9500 (S)miles "The reward is in the journey, not at the end of the road." --------------143C57474584DB8A428EF651 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FLHR@webtv.net (Larry) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:09:03 -0500 (EST) To: pmcnew@bellsouth.net Subject: New PC 800 Pat, Just read your entry in the guest book on the Pan Europe Pacific Coast web site. Hope your enjoying your PC. Could you tell me how you like it? I'm thinking of getting one and am trying to gather as much info as I can. Also, at the time of your post (Mar. '98), you said your dealer had 8 more NEW 96's at a great price. I don't suppose you know whether any of these are still available, do you? I'd love to find a new PC, any year, if possible. If you know of any, please let me know. In the meantime, I'd really like to hear how you like yours. Thanks for your time. Ride safe and enjoy. Larry~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o`&>o --------------143C57474584DB8A428EF651-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:17:42 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Fuel pump going bad? My PC died then restarted on the way home, and I wonder if the fuel pump is okay. I was at highway speed with the electric vest on full when the bike started to lose power. This felt just like when the first carb of a 4-cylinder runs out of gas, telling you it's time to go on reserve. My gas was fine. I turned off the vest in case it was causing a problem. The PC continued to lose power (as measured by throttle response) until it was stone cold dead. I turned the kill switch and the ignition switch on & off a few times in case they were the problem. The sidestand light wasn't on, so I figured it was okay. By now I was stopped on the side of the road going over my options. I noticed that the voltmeter reported the system voltage was quite low - about 11 volts. I tried to start it a few times, and all it did was turn over without even trying to catch. I gave it choke, since I'd ridden only a few miles, and the engine started! I sat there revving the engine for a minute or two to make sure it wasn't going to die as I pulled back into traffic. Then it was fine. I rolled home at highway speed, no problems, electric vest on full, and system reading 13.5 volts. I changed the fuel filter, because I've been planning to anyway, and it's probably the original fuel filter (1990 with 16,000 mi., I've had it 3 months). I cut open the old one, but it didn't look particularly dirty. I checked the fuel pump's power connection, and it looked clean. Strangely, the fuel pump does not run regularly. With the engine idling I could hear the fuel pump start & stop, but not even rhythmically. I could also feel it start & stop by putting my fingers on it. It would click and shake more with increasing engine rpm. I put an analog voltmeter across the fuel pump power connection, and got 4 volts at idle and 7.5 volts at higher rpms (this seems very odd, but I don't know what it should be). I'm familiar with fuel injection systems where the fuel pump runs constantly to keep up the fuel system pressure for the injectors -- but I'm not sure how an electric pump is supposed to work on carbureted engines. So, is this a fuel pump problem? Is my battery dying? (It's probably the original battery). Is there a voltage-dependent electronic system (like the ignition module) that might be affected by a low battery? many thanks, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <-- FOR SALE -- http://www.toward.com/BMW.html '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:06:10 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Russell Seats To: RVPC800@aol.com, rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Does anyone out there know the web address for Russell Seats? I am wanting to contact them and cant seem to pull them up. 'Preciate it! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:18:34 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Russell Seats ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com >Does anyone out there know the web address for Russell Seats? I am wanting to >contact them and cant seem to pull them up. http://www.day-long.com/ Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:31:51 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Rocky" , Subject: Re: PC800: is there anyone here? Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:18:16 -0600 Hi Rocky. Long time, no see. At the bottom of this message is the address of the OWNER of the list but other than an unthanked and unpaid guy that makes sure we all get to use this great list, there is no "one" that runs it. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rocky" To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:40 AM Subject: PC800: is there anyone here? > Who runs this group? > Stan Rocklin, Fairfax VA > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:50:24 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:00:02 -0500 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: is there anyone here? To: Steve Wilson , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net Steve is absolutely correct, however the list owner can exercise their right, by ownership of the email list...to do what has to be done on many different things...but, so far, everyone has been pretty nice. :-) _____________________________________________________ On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:18:16 -0600, you wrote: -->Hi Rocky. Long time, no see. At the bottom of this message is the -->address of the OWNER of the list but other than an unthanked and = unpaid -->guy that makes sure we all get to use this great list, there is no = "one" -->that runs it. -->Steve Wilson Ruston LA. --> --> -->----- Original Message ----- -->From: "Rocky" -->To: -->Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:40 AM -->Subject: PC800: is there anyone here? --> --> -->> Who runs this group? -->> Stan Rocklin, Fairfax VA -->> -->> -- -->> Visit the PC800 web page at -->> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body = of -->a -->> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. -->> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -->> ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Verlisko9f@cs.com for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:56:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:56:29 EST Subject: PC800: Would not start To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Last Summer I stopped at a local resturant for refreshment. When I came out to start my PC, turned the key on, pulled up the kick stand, and hit the starter button, nothing. Checked the kill switch, it was ok, turned it off and on a few times, hit the starter again, still nothing. The lights were ok, nice and bright. A friend of mine was near by and I put it in 2nd gear and with his shove it started. I couldn't imagine what was wrong and thought while it was running I would head 20 miles to a Honda dealer to get it fixed. Shut it off and ask the service manager to look at it. Lo and behold he got on, and it started. A few weeks later the same thing happened, so I kicked it into nuetral and with the kick stand up and I hit the starter and it started. Now why wouldn't it start with the kick stand up and the clutch lever pulled those two other times? I've been gone for a while and just got back on the Listers. And I shure have missed all the good things that have gone on. What is new that I should know about? Verlis Dillman Marion, In. verlisko9f@cs.com 95 PC800--26000 miles Bought used Modifications-Ring of Fire on front rotator Dual band Ham Radio for 2 meters and 440 band -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Leonard Berkeley" To: "PC800 list" Subject: PC800: toy run Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:07:16 -0500 I have just spent the day involved in a toy run for the local Salvation Army. The vast majority of the participants were HD types and I was astonished at the questions and comments I got about my PC. Every one wanted to know what it was(didn't even know it was a Honda), and how much they like the bike. It was interesting and amusing. * A Very Merry Christmas and * * a Happy New year * * to everyone ************ | -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PeteO" To: "Lee Barker" , Subject: Re: PC800: I found a hort Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:28:44 -0600 hehe i think we have you down here in college station. i know of four for sure in the city. at my work a new employee was just hired. lo and behold he drives a pc also. a nearby neighbor has one along with a fireman who also works for the city. and to top it off and rub it in all the Yankees nose a little the weather here has been averaging about 40 for the morning ride to work and 60s in the daytime. don't feel to bad though cause i will be jealous of yall during the summer when it is 105 with 80% humidity!!! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: PC800: I found a hort > Now we can be cohorts. > > My wife came home this afternoon and announced there was a PC parked up the > street at the thrift store. I drove the truck up there--no time for helmet > stuff--and made the acquaintance of Mr. Baumann, who lives not far from > me--a few blocks--and rides a beautiful 97 red 'un. > > We chatted briefly, exchanged business cards, and agreed that we'd ride > together when the weather returns to niceness (Today just being a day you'd > go out and ride a bit in the interest of the oil, moving parts and the > battery). > > I told him that to date I had thought I was the only PC owner in Central > Oregon. He said there was a pearl one around, too. > > > So watch out Columbus, Ohio! You may not have the most PCs per capita! > > Lee Barker > 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" > 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) > 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular > > "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, > he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in > mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:28:56 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: That Pacific Coast 'Cafe Racer' I was getting a Christmas present for my stepson at a leather store and chatting with the owner. He has a great local reputation for leather work, including fixing motorcycle leathers, replacing zippers, etc. (Tricks of the Trade, in Great Falls, Virginia, west of Washington DC). Spying copies of a local magazine, Winding Road Motorcycle Times, I asked him if he rode. He said no, only many years ago. Then he pointed out the window to my Pacific Coast parked across the street, and said - "So, is that your cafe racer out there?" I said YES, of course. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:16:40 -0400 To: "R. Fenwick" , "PC800 List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive must love torturing me... R. Fenwick wrote: > [...] > $243, > [...] > $281. > [...] > match or beat the $243, I am but an impecunious Canadian, however I put a lot of value on leading a hassle-free life. If I get good service from a company with the lowest price, I'm very happy. But if I have to make a decision between getting the absolute rock bottom price, and getting good, friendly, hassle-free service, for the sake of a dime a day, I don't put up with much shit. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMNQ7S03.9HS for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:14:16 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: go.to/pc800 update Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:12:23 +0100 This time no items were added, but removed. Because of copyright warnings of a local website sherrif I removed the following items of the server: * scanned picture of '90 PC accesory folder * scanned picture, brandless, with the picture of a lighted clock on it * scanned pages of the '89 PC manual According to "sir George" these aren't allowed on the site. Whatever... Those who would like to see them anyway can mail me, I'll send them to you. If anybody has any idea on how to contact Honda USA to ask them about these copyright issues I would be interested to hear it. Greetings, Emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: George To: ; Sent: maandag 13 december 1999 4:26 Subject: Subject: PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS MESSAGE. Please use same message when you make your reply, Also all replies must be in english, with attached URL's. Allow me to introduce myself: I'm Sir George, and I'm your Neighborhood Guide Program Administrator (NGPA) for the Silverstone district, here at Fortune City. While scanning the district I noticed that you have Fortunecity content and guideline violation on your site. ( See URL below.) Stie storage violations http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/index.html File storage violation manual.exe Copyright violations http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/pcacc.html http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/clock/Clock.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/manual/ Sir, let me quote your own words. ( It's purpose is to provide space for pictures that have no place on the US PC800, Eastern Coasters site, PCE, PCN or SCPCRC sites. ) This is the true reason for the warning that has been sent to you, however upon futher investigation of your site I have found material's that violate the content and Guideline of Fortunecity.com. Therefore I have had to take action on these issue. The copyright violation are the worst and I'm sure that the honda corp. will be getting in touch with you on thes matters. Unfortunately such violation are not permitted and aren't allowed, even in the Silverstone district. I'm hoping that they can be removed A.S.A.P. As it violates the Terms of Service for your web site at Fortunecity. (see content and guidelines at, http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/981/page2.html ) e-mail me back when the violation have been corrected, so that I can get you off the Problem Site List. DO NOT IGNORE THIS WARNING! Your NGPA for the Silverstone District at Fortunecity.com. Sir George sirgeorge@exploremaine.com Your NGPA at, http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/981/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "grizzly1" To: "PC800 Maillist" Subject: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:23:44 -0800 I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on = the PC.=20 Anyone done that? If so - how and where. As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere - = anyone done that too?? Thanks - Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:11:09 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "grizzly1" , "PC800 Maillist" Subject: Re: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:53:27 -0600 I am waiting for the glue to set up as I type. I got a Streetpilot a = couple of weeks ago and just got around to mounting it this week. I used = a 2X2 aluminum angle. I cut it out to fit between the handle bars. I = used some heavy paper to get the shape right and cut and filed on the = angle until it fit. I left 2 ears on the bottom leg of the angle and = bent them back under the angle for mounting tabs that I glued to the = plastic bar covers. I removed the rubber pad from the bottom of the SP = and replaced it with the super velcro from Radio Shack. It sticks so = hard that I am afraid I might tear the plastic off the bars when I go to = remove it. I have about an 1/8" layer of Marine Goop that is holding the = angle to the bar cover. I test fitted the SP and started to remove it a = couple of days ago after letting the glue dry for 2 days and it hadn't = set up so the angle came off the bike, SP attached, glue still wet in = the center. I will wait about a week this time and maybe add some heat = to the angle to encourage the drying. I will use the front of the angle = that hangs down as a location for aux. switches. I will report back = after the glue sets up and let you know how it holds. (I didn't want to = drill holes in the plastic, which is why I used the glue) If all works = out well, I will take pictures. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: grizzly1=20 To: PC800 Maillist=20 Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:23 PM Subject: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on = the PC.=20 Anyone done that? If so - how and where. As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere = - anyone done that too?? Thanks - Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "grizzly1" cc: "PC800 Maillist" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot of "Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:23:44 PST." <001501bf4511$192e79a0$7563193f@oemcomputer> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:46:30 -0600 Please do not send HTML formatted email to lists. If there was/is a digest mode for this list, your message would look like its quoted below. Ugly. "grizzly1" writes: > > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF44CE.06437860 > charset="Windows-1252" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is ONE of the reasons I refuse to enable HTML. I have already chosen the font size, style, and colors I wish to view email with and do not wish to allow others to select. > > I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on = > the PC.=20 > Anyone done that? If so - how and where. Mounted my GPS-III Plus with velcro right on top of the shiny Honda plate between the handlebars. I was in a hurry. But afraid of it falling off so I used a shoestring thru the lanyard eyelet and tied one end around the handlebars. Original batteries have lasted over 20 hours of use. I intend one day to tie into the PC's battery but so far I have a pile of NiMH batteries for my digital camera and other toys. So lazyness has prevailed. > As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere - = > anyone done that too?? > > Thanks - > > Jack Here's another problem with HTML: the message gets sent twice. > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF44CE.06437860 > charset="Windows-1252" > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >

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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF44CE.06437860-- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Manuel J. Solis" To: "Lee Barker" , Subject: Re: PC800: obsessive compulsive Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:15:11 -0800 No Lee! You are sick! But It takes one to know one! :-) Yup, no stranger to the late night Diamond lapping compound binge. The 1um and .5um paste polishes fork tubes great!!!! You can use it for the weirdest things. Great stuff! Strips the finish off most things reeeeal good!! Enjoy the winter................ P.S. Have you found a reasonable source? -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 6:33 AM Subject: PC800: obsessive compulsive confession >I admit to these deficiencies. I only hope there are others who share my >shame. > >Read on. > >I didn't like the way my toolkit pliers felt. Rough. > >I took them apart into two plier. I daubed on some diamond lapping compound >where the two halves meet. > >I replaced the nut with a better one and peened the end of the bolt. > >I put them on my desk at work. > >During lightweight phone conversations I would ply my pliers. They got >smoother and smoother. > >I cleaned off the compound, added a zwerp of WD-39.95 (marked down from 40) >and they are ready for service now. > >Am I sick, or is this just a winter thing? > > >Lee Barker >95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" >60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) >51 Cushman Roadking Tubular > >"And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, >he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in >mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: Re: PC800: obsessive compulsive Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:21:20 -0500 PC800 Listers while some of you we're discussing the finer points of diamond lapping compound I've been going berzerko trying to figure out why my NEC 860 printer recently started printing real light text. It's that HOO HOO HOO time of the year when the news letter from the family has to go out... I called all the sites that recycle cartridges, none seemed to do the NEC 860 cartridge...some sell toner with instructions to burn a small hole in the toner cart and pour away, but they never responded to my email if they had a toner for this printer...So, I went to the local Staples store and got a toner cartridge...geez $149 plus tax. I put it in: same light print, clean interior of machine; still light print...So I go into the set up and somehow it was set on SAVE TONER. I'd used it flawlessly for a yr then somehow it got punched to save toner. Well I imagine the other toner cartridge is still got some stuff in it. Has this stuff ever happened to any of you??? It portrays my computer ineptness I guess. Randy in GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Manuel J. Solis" To: Subject: PC800: Cold Hands! Big GRIN! Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:42:37 -0800 One great part of Winter Riding! Hearing that GASP! from you spouse when I come home from work and place my colder than Kelvin 0 hands on her back. Ah! The sweet Siren Song She Sings! ...........I think my eye will heal soon! I could have said "Cold Hands, Warm Tart!"? It flows better, but I want to keep my other eye and ribs interacted... As long as there is no Black Ice, It's riding time! Well, I'm off to get some more dirty looks from angry holiday shoppers as I part up in front of the lot! In and out shopping every time!!!! Got to love it!!! MORTTIS 89' PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:15:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:15:30 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Cold Hands! Big GRIN! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Whooohah!! My friends all think I'm an idiot for riding in our weather in Nebrasky. Hadn't thought about parking benefits.. But then, this is a state where people genuinely act surptised when I have their car towed the hell outta my spot. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:42:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:42:26 EST Subject: Re: PC800: obsessive compulsive (printer) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I once found a good Hewlett Packard deskjet at a garage sale for fifty bucks. As the asking price was approximately 1 tenth market value, I was more than a little pleased.. And suspicious. I spoke with the seller, and he told me that his office had upgraded printers. They gave the old ones away to a few select employees- management, naturally- and he could never get it to work. Well, hell. There's only one moving part on these things. I figured that even should I have to replace the print head, I would still be up a few dollars. I bought it. The guy even promised my cash back if _I_ couldn't get the thing to run. I got it home and, sure enough, it was busted. Everything appeared to work, but I got no ink on the page. I called a lawyer buddy who had the same model printer and arranged to take the thing to his office fow a little swap and see diagnosis. The ink cartridge was empty. That was it. I called the guy and offered to return it, but he insited onstanding by the deal. Heh. Printers are always a mystery. Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 17:07:09 -0600 (CST) id x.0.da2c5ac8 (4210) for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:06:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:06:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: PC800: Givi top rack To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello all, I wish to get the top black rack for my Givi E460. Can anyone tell me if you can order direct. The last time I went thru a local dealer, and was a bit of a pain in the "seat" to say the least. Please advise if I can order it direct via the web or 800 number. Thanks in advance, Hope all have a Happy and Safe Holiday season, Ride Safe and Often, JIM T Beachwood, NJ 1996 PC 800 40K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 13:44:58 -0600 (CST) with SMTP id NAA10321 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:43:54 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:44:31 -0600 From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: More on lights To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I would question though, the effect of the extra "juice" on the bulb, and how that would affect the life expectancy of the bulb. Also, if the higher voltage didn't send the bulb to an early grave, how about the extra heat that the bulb itself will create since it is considerably brighter (and therefore burning hotter...) My Dad is an Electrical Contractor. I know of one case where there is a standard light bulb that he personally installed in 1978 that burns 24/7/365 that is still burning today.... How? He installed a standard base 220v. bulb in a recessed light that is wired for 110v. Therefore it burns at HALF intensity (more or less). Because the bulb is not cycled on and off (no switch) and burns cool (The bulb is only warm to the touch), it has lasted over 180,000 hours (21 years) and counting. Therefore, heat and voltage are factors in the life of a bulb... There may be a reason that there is only 10 volts being fed to the bulb... ? I don't know. Another trick that he has used (this is WAY off topic) is for areas that you do NOT wish to change light bulbs often (i.e. fixtures over stairwells or any hard to get spots), go to any good Electrical Supply house and get Traffic Light bulbs. They are 70 watts and are constructed so that they last a long, long, long time (think about it).... About $3.00 a piece. (Sorry for the rambling...) Rich Fenwick Illinois Still riding to work... At 08:24 AM 12/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >The same thread on the Hawk list included an interesting new twist. >One guy measured the voltage being delivered to his headlight: a >measly 10 volts. He ran a heavy gauge wire directly from the battery >into a relay, and was able to increase the voltage delivered to the >headlight by about 25%, with a fairly dramatic effect on headlight >output. > >I plan to look into this, first on the Hawk, which is currently laid >up for the winter and doesn't require stripping so much stuff to get >to the electrics. Has anyone tried this on a PC? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. about the extra heat that the bulb itself will create since it is considerably brighter (and therefore burning hotter...)

My Dad is an Electrical Contractor.   I know of one case where there is a standard light bulb that he personally installed in 1978 that burns 24/7/365 that is still burning today....  How?

He installed a standard base 220v. bulb in a recessed light that is wired for 110v.  Therefore it burns at HALF intensity (more or less).  Because the bulb is not cycled on and off (no switch) and burns cool (The bulb is only warm to the touch), it has lasted over 180,000 hours (21 years) and counting. Therefore, heat and voltage are factors in the life of a bulb...

There may be a reason that there is only 10 volts being fed to the bulb... ?  I don't know.

Another trick that he has used (this is WAY off topic) is for areas that you do NOT wish to change light bulbs often (i.e. fixtures over stairwells or any hard to get spots), go to any good Electrical Supply house and get Traffic Light bulbs.  They are 70 watts and are constructed so that they last a long, long, long time (think about it)....  About $3.00 a piece.

(Sorry for the rambling...)

Rich Fenwick
Illinois
Still riding to work...

At 08:24 AM 12/11/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>The same thread on the Hawk list included an interesting new twist.
>One guy measured the voltage being delivered to his headlight: a
>measly 10 volts. He ran a heavy gauge wire directly from the battery
>into a relay, and was able to increase the voltage delivered to the
>headlight by about 25%, with a fairly dramatic effect on headlight
>output.
>
>I plan to look into this, first on the Hawk, which is currently laid
>up for the winter and doesn't require stripping so much stuff to get
>to the electrics. Has anyone tried this on a PC?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Selden Deemer
>Atlanta, Georgia                               EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>--
>Visit the PC800 web page at <URL:http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/>
>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a
>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu.
>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 11:48:09 -0600 (CST) ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:48:06 -0800 (PST) Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:48:13 -0800 From: Peter Noeth Subject: RE: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot To: PC800 Maillist I am in the process of converting my mounting for the Garmin GPS III to a Garmin Street Pilot. Basicly I have drilled two holes in the top center (left to right) of the dashboard (and epoxied 6-32 machine screw nuts to the underside) for the factory Garmin GPS III vehicle mounting bracket. For the Street Pilot, I have made a mounting plate that will use the same two machine screw holes in the dashboard, and is screwed to the bottom of the factory detatchable mounting base of the Street Pilot. I only need to heat form the mounting plate I made to follow the curvature of the dashboard a little better. I will send some pictures to Emile for posting when I am finished. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: grizzly1 > Reply To: grizzly1 > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 6:23 PM > To: PC800 Maillist > Subject: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > > I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on the PC. > Anyone done that? If so - how and where. > > As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere - > anyone done that too?? > > Thanks - > > Jack > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 09:51:28 -0600 (CST) with SMTP id JAA05541 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:51:26 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:52:03 -0600 From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: More on lights To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I would question though, the effect of the extra "juice" on the bulb, and how that would affect the life expectancy of the bulb. Also, if the higher voltage didn't send the bulb to an early grave, how about the extra heat that the bulb itself will create since it is considerably brighter (and therefore burning hotter...) My Dad is an Electrical Contractor. I know of one case where there is a standard light bulb that he personally installed in 1978 that burns 24/7/365 that is still burning today.... How? He installed a standard base 220v. bulb in a recessed light that is wired for 110v. Therefore it burns at HALF intensity (more or less). Because the bulb is not cycled on and off (no switch) and burns cool (The bulb is only warm to the touch), it has lasted over 180,000 hours (21 years) and counting. Therefore, heat and voltage are factors in the life of a bulb... There may be a reason that there is only 10 volts being fed to the bulb... ? I don't know. Another trick that he has used (this is WAY off topic) is for areas that you do NOT wish to change light bulbs often (i.e. fixtures over stairwells or any hard to get spots), go to any good Electrical Supply house and get Traffic Light bulbs. They are 70 watts and are constructed so that they last a long, long, long time (think about it).... About $3.00 a piece. (Sorry for the rambling...) Rich Fenwick Illinois Still riding to work... At 08:24 AM 12/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >The same thread on the Hawk list included an interesting new twist. >One guy measured the voltage being delivered to his headlight: a >measly 10 volts. He ran a heavy gauge wire directly from the battery >into a relay, and was able to increase the voltage delivered to the >headlight by about 25%, with a fairly dramatic effect on headlight >output. > >I plan to look into this, first on the Hawk, which is currently laid >up for the winter and doesn't require stripping so much stuff to get >to the electrics. Has anyone tried this on a PC? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. about the extra heat that the bulb itself will create since it is considerably brighter (and therefore burning hotter...)

My Dad is an Electrical Contractor.   I know of one case where there is a standard light bulb that he personally installed in 1978 that burns 24/7/365 that is still burning today....  How?

He installed a standard base 220v. bulb in a recessed light that is wired for 110v.  Therefore it burns at HALF intensity (more or less).  Because the bulb is not cycled on and off (no switch) and burns cool (The bulb is only warm to the touch), it has lasted over 180,000 hours (21 years) and counting. Therefore, heat and voltage are factors in the life of a bulb...

There may be a reason that there is only 10 volts being fed to the bulb... ?  I don't know.

Another trick that he has used (this is WAY off topic) is for areas that you do NOT wish to change light bulbs often (i.e. fixtures over stairwells or any hard to get spots), go to any good Electrical Supply house and get Traffic Light bulbs.  They are 70 watts and are constructed so that they last a long, long, long time (think about it)....  About $3.00 a piece.

(Sorry for the rambling...)

Rich Fenwick
Illinois
Still riding to work...

At 08:24 AM 12/11/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>The same thread on the Hawk list included an interesting new twist.
>One guy measured the voltage being delivered to his headlight: a
>measly 10 volts. He ran a heavy gauge wire directly from the battery
>into a relay, and was able to increase the voltage delivered to the
>headlight by about 25%, with a fairly dramatic effect on headlight
>output.
>
>I plan to look into this, first on the Hawk, which is currently laid
>up for the winter and doesn't require stripping so much stuff to get
>to the electrics. Has anyone tried this on a PC?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Selden Deemer
>Atlanta, Georgia                               EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>--
>Visit the PC800 web page at <URL:http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/>
>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a
>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu.
>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 09:33:10 -0600 (CST) (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1AF65E00A8; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:33:03 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:33:04 -0500 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Would not start To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Verlisko9f@cs.com Reply-to: Chris Norloff Sounds like your neutral indicator switch may be going bad. I'm not sure how the system logic deals with the neutral switch, the sidestand switch, and the clutch switch -- in fact, I might be having problems due to that myself and need to learn more. Clean & inspect the connectors & wires, and be ready to disable the switch as necessary to diagnose the problem. good luck, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Verlisko9f@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:56:29 EST >Last Summer I stopped at a local resturant for refreshment. When I came out >to start my PC, turned the key on, pulled up the kick stand, and hit the >starter button, nothing. Checked the kill switch, it was ok, turned it off >and on a few times, hit the starter again, still nothing. The lights were ok, >nice and bright. A friend of mine was near by and I put it in 2nd gear and >with his shove it started. I couldn't imagine what was wrong and thought >while it was running I would head 20 miles to a Honda dealer to get it fixed. >Shut it off and ask the service manager to look at it. Lo and behold he got >on, and it started. >A few weeks later the same thing happened, so I kicked it into nuetral and >with the kick stand up and I hit the starter and it started. Now why wouldn't >it start with the kick stand up and the clutch lever pulled those two other >times? > I've been gone for a while and just got back on the Listers. And I shure >have missed >all the good things that have gone on. What is new that I should know about? > >Verlis Dillman >Marion, In. >verlisko9f@cs.com >95 PC800--26000 miles >Bought used >Modifications-Ring of Fire on front rotator >Dual band Ham Radio for 2 meters and 440 band >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 08:46:00 -0600 (CST) (SMTPD32-5.05) id A69E30F400AC; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:45:50 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:45:50 -0500 From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Would not start To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Verlisko9f@cs.com Reply-to: Chris Norloff Sounds like your neutral indicator switch may be going bad. I'm not sure how the system logic deals with the neutral switch, the sidestand switch, and the clutch switch -- in fact, I might be having problems due to that myself and need to learn more. Clean & inspect the connectors & wires, and be ready to disable the switch as necessary to diagnose the problem. good luck, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Verlisko9f@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:56:29 EST >Last Summer I stopped at a local resturant for refreshment. When I came out >to start my PC, turned the key on, pulled up the kick stand, and hit the >starter button, nothing. Checked the kill switch, it was ok, turned it off >and on a few times, hit the starter again, still nothing. The lights were ok, >nice and bright. A friend of mine was near by and I put it in 2nd gear and >with his shove it started. I couldn't imagine what was wrong and thought >while it was running I would head 20 miles to a Honda dealer to get it fixed. >Shut it off and ask the service manager to look at it. Lo and behold he got >on, and it started. >A few weeks later the same thing happened, so I kicked it into nuetral and >with the kick stand up and I hit the starter and it started. Now why wouldn't >it start with the kick stand up and the clutch lever pulled those two other >times? > I've been gone for a while and just got back on the Listers. And I shure >have missed >all the good things that have gone on. What is new that I should know about? > >Verlis Dillman >Marion, In. >verlisko9f@cs.com >95 PC800--26000 miles >Bought used >Modifications-Ring of Fire on front rotator >Dual band Ham Radio for 2 meters and 440 band >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [192.161.36.5]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 09:09:35 -0600 (CST) ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:09:33 -0800 (PST) ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:09:32 -0800 (PST) for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:09:09 -0800 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:09:05 -0800 From: "Pickett, Bruce D" Subject: PC800: FW: CarBuyer Notifier To: "'PC800'" Here is a new notice of a bike for sale Bruce Pickett Federal Way, WA '89 PC800 "Blue Pacific" http://www.users.uswest.net/~bpickett/Blue.html > ======================================================= > This is your CarBuyer Notifier > You asked to be notified about ads for Honda pc 800 > There is 1 new ad > ======================================================= > 1997 Honda Pc 800 $5700 in Altoona, IA > http://carbuyer.com/mi.phtml?key=94089 > > ======================================================= > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 08:25:36 -0600 (CST) by dorsey.fcc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57968U12500L1250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:23:44 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:24:36 -0500 From: Carl Luft Subject: Re: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal >I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on the PC. >Anyone done that? If so - how and where. I mounted a Garmin gps-3 (mounting plate) up on the dash using black GE silicone seal. That way, I don't have to look down to see it while riding. >As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere - anyone >done that too?? >Thanks - >Jack I bought a 12Volt extention chord from radio shack. I cut the plug off and ran the wire from the battery to the coolant hatch. I cut a knotch in the door about 1/2 inch in from the outside along the top edge so the wire wouldn't hold the door open. I allowed about 3 inches of wire plus the scocket to protrude and when I don't need the scocket, I open the door and store it along side the coolant bottle. I fused the positive lead with a 5 amp fuse and crimped eyelets on the leads to attach to the battery. Carl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 07:16:10 -0600 (CST) ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:16:10 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:16:09 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer Subject: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? To: PC 800 List In a message dated 12/12/99 7:40:42 AM Mountain Standard Time, rocheux@juno.com writes: > Who runs this group? It's a self-organized radical-syndicalist collective. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 13 Dec 1999 05:27:15 -0600 (CST) ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:26:56 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:46:05 +0000 From: Russ Goff Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu X-MSMail-priority: Normal if they mean the picture at http://www.st1100.org/photo.cgi?job=VIS&id=51&type=B then that machine is definitely an ST1100, but then I wouldnt expect a Winger (1) to be able to tell the difference anyway. (1) if US wingers are anything like most UK wingers. Russ big.russ@tesco.net Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle repair & maint. '89 PC800 "Obelix" ('81 CX500 "Maggot" FOR SALE) ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MTW To: ; Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:37 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? > Please do! > -----Original Message----- > From: W7KJD@aol.com > To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 PM > Subject: PC800: Who Rides a Pacific Coast? > > > >Sure it's a futuristic design, but guess who else rides a Pacific Coast -- > Harrison Ford. I'm attending a 4 week course in Charlottesville, Virginia > and one of the other atendees owns a Honda Goldwing and mentioned that he > has a picture of Harrison Ford riding his PC. I asked him to send it to me > so that it can be scanned and sent up for our website. Will pursue. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:24:18 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top rack To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I know others here have ordered directly from GIvi. Here is their email address : giviusa@mindspring.com and I know they answer email promptly. Someone else may have a phone number. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:40:19 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Peter Noeth" , "PC800 Maillist" Subject: Re: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:40:34 -0600 I have a few friends on the Long Distance Rider list that have used the stock mount for the Streetpilot and most have had to catch the SP as it bounced off the bike when the mount broke. It is designed for the dash of a car, not a motorcycle. If you must use the stock mount, attach a safety line to the latch on the battery door. That way you don't have to have the best hands in the world to keep the SP from hitting the pavement at 70 MPH. I know one guy on the list that didn't have good enough hands and he said it wasn't pretty. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Peter Noeth" To: "PC800 Maillist" Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:48 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > I am in the process of converting my mounting for the Garmin GPS III to a Garmin > Street Pilot. Basicly I have drilled two holes in the top center (left to right) > of the dashboard (and epoxied 6-32 machine screw nuts to the underside) for the > factory Garmin GPS III vehicle mounting bracket. For the Street Pilot, I have > made a mounting plate that will use the same two machine screw holes in the > dashboard, and is screwed to the bottom of the factory detatchable mounting base > of the Street Pilot. I only need to heat form the mounting plate I made to > follow the curvature of the dashboard a little better. I will send some pictures > to Emile for posting when I am finished. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech > Quantum trailer. > > > > ---------- > > From: grizzly1 > > Reply To: grizzly1 > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 6:23 PM > > To: PC800 Maillist > > Subject: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > > > > I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount on the PC. > > Anyone done that? If so - how and where. > > > > As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet somewhere - > > anyone done that too?? > > > > Thanks - > > > > Jack > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:44:18 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: Selden Deemer CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? Selden Deemer wrote: > > In a message dated 12/12/99 7:40:42 AM Mountain Standard Time, > rocheux@juno.com writes: > > > Who runs this group? > > It's a self-organized radical-syndicalist collective. We elect someone who acts as sort of an executive officer of the week, but all decisions of that executive officer must be ratified by a 2/3 vote of all members at the special bi-weekly meeting.....Help! I'm being repressed!!!!!!!!!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:08:20 EST Subject: PC800: Re: Trunk frame To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, kgray@dtn.com The trunk frame is the part that holds the "saddlebags" to the bike. I am not at all certain what it cost- the insurance money took care of it- but I do know that it was about $400.00 to get and install the thing. The thing is.. I had to call Honda of America and get the thing shipped from Japan. It took about two months. It may be in stock now, however... I had been attempting to get one from the list.. And there was at least one offer. But.. The repair folks wanted to install OEM new, or they wouldn't stand by the repair. I will dig up the details and post them in the am. Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 03:11:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: "Steve Wilson" , "Peter Noeth" , "PC800 Maillist" Subject: RE: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:17:15 -0500 Importance: Normal I have the "Peter Noeth" method of mounting for my GPS III+. Still rock solid. The SP would add a bit of weight etc to the mounting and I am not sure if I would feel comfortable mounting it up there. I guess my solution would me to mount it on a Reis accessory rack on an ST....opps, wrong list. I placed a marine 12 V outlet in the left fairing storage door right above my BMW receptacle. I plug my GPS into the top one (standard) and my widder vest in the bottom one. The unswitched power runs back to my fuseblock/power block in the trunk that runs all of my electric's designed by Rich, also a PC owner. On my next bike, I will have a hardwired leading permanently available where I mount the SA/III+ whatever. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Steve Wilson > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:41 PM > To: Peter Noeth; PC800 Maillist > Subject: Re: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > > > I have a few friends on the Long Distance Rider list that have used the > stock mount for the Streetpilot and most have had to catch the SP as it > bounced off the bike when the mount broke. It is designed for the dash > of a car, not a motorcycle. If you must use the stock mount, attach a > safety line to the latch on the battery door. That way you don't have to > have the best hands in the world to keep the SP from hitting the > pavement at 70 MPH. I know one guy on the list that didn't have good > enough hands and he said it wasn't pretty. > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Noeth" > To: "PC800 Maillist" > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:48 AM > Subject: RE: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > > > > I am in the process of converting my mounting for the Garmin GPS III > to a Garmin > > Street Pilot. Basicly I have drilled two holes in the top center (left > to right) > > of the dashboard (and epoxied 6-32 machine screw nuts to the > underside) for the > > factory Garmin GPS III vehicle mounting bracket. For the Street Pilot, > I have > > made a mounting plate that will use the same two machine screw holes > in the > > dashboard, and is screwed to the bottom of the factory detatchable > mounting base > > of the Street Pilot. I only need to heat form the mounting plate I > made to > > follow the curvature of the dashboard a little better. I will send > some pictures > > to Emile for posting when I am finished. > > > > Regards, > > > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 > Bushtech > > Quantum trailer. > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: grizzly1 > > > Reply To: grizzly1 > > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 6:23 PM > > > To: PC800 Maillist > > > Subject: PC800: Mounting a Garmin StreetPilot > > > > > > I have a Garmin Street Pilot that I would like to be able to mount > on the PC. > > > Anyone done that? If so - how and where. > > > > > > As an aside, it would be handy to have a standard 12V outlet > somewhere - > > > anyone done that too?? > > > > > > Thanks - > > > > > > Jack > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:01:04 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: Tom and Anita Humphrey , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? Tom and Anita Humphrey wrote: > > That was good! We voted on it at the last meeting, and 67% of us agreed > that your response to the list management was excellent. The other 33% > started a chat about motor oil.... > Tom in Clayton CA At the next meeting I shall explain how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes. I also want a shrubbery! Sir Ralphahad -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AEF7489021E; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:58:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Norloff" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 99 07:58:31 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, KC2ATQ@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top rack ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com >Hello all, I wish to get the top black rack for my Givi E460. Can anyone tell >me if you can order direct. The last time I went thru a local dealer, and was >a bit of a pain in the "seat" to say the least. Please advise if I can order >it direct via the web or 800 number. Yes, I think you can order through the 800 no. If you're interested in another dealer, this came off the ST1100 list-- "Happy Trails motorcycle products is having a Givi sale through the end of this month. 15% off regular discounted prices. Givi prices are going up 7% on January 1st. They are at www.happy-trail.com. " Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:19:31 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? >Tom and Anita Humphrey wrote: > > > > That was good! We voted on it at the last meeting, and 67% of us agreed > > that your response to the list management was excellent. The other 33% > > started a chat about motor oil.... > > Tom in Clayton CA > > > >At the next meeting I shall explain how sheep's bladders may >be employed to prevent earthquakes. I also want a >shrubbery! > A very nice shrubbery, with a little path running down the middle. (A path! a path!) Then, you must chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with... a herring! Betty Lise Anderson, Assoc. Prof. Department of Electrical Engineering, The Ohio State University 205 Dreese Laboratory, 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:13:47 -0800 > >Tom and Anita Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > That was good! We voted on it at the last meeting, and 67% of us agreed > > > that your response to the list management was excellent. The other 33% > > > started a chat about motor oil.... > > > Tom in Clayton CA > > > > > > And the 1% which did not vote, well, we did not have to do anything to them because every morning their father would wake them up and kill them... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FMQJNC00.LV7 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:45:12 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:43:10 +0100 > >Tom and Anita Humphrey wrote: > > > That was good! We voted on it at the last meeting, and 67% of us agreed > > > that your response to the list management was excellent. The other 33% > > > started a chat about motor oil.... > > > Tom in Clayton CA > > > >At the next meeting I shall explain how sheep's bladders may > >be employed to prevent earthquakes. I also want a > >shrubbery! >> >A very nice shrubbery, with a little path running down the middle. (A >path! a path!) Then, you must chop down the mightiest tree in the >forest with... a herring! >Betty Lise Anderson, Assoc. Prof. I vote Nee ! Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:51:38 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Excelsior-Henderson To: Honda Sport Touring Association , PC800 If you are interested in a newspaper article from a local paper. It appeared in Sundays front page. http://www.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=BIGX12&date=12-Dec-1999&word=henderson&word=excelsior ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:13:16 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Parts Manual Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:16:24 -0800 Since they publish the original manuals for Honda under contract, I = would expect this is the printed version of the fiche. =20 You can get the fiche from: http://www.motocom.com/fiche/ I got one for my ST1100 (and I was lucky that someone at my office was = throwing away a fiche reader). The PC800 is listed too. It is easier to deal with than the manual. If I need a printed copy of = a page, the library has a fiche printer and it only cost me $.05 per = page. The fiche is only $10.00 and $1.95 for shipping and handling. (don't = know about overseas shipment). -----Original Message----- From: Arvid L=F8vik To: PC 800 List Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 3:11 AM Subject: PC800: Parts Manual =20 =20 Do You know if the parts Manual 14MR5KM from=20 http://www.helminc.com,=20 display ALL parts numbers on the bike ? =20 Regards =20 Arvid =20 =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------- You can respond to this e-mail online. If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 15279399 If you don't have ICQ you can page me through: * My Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) * Or you can send me e-mail to 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com You can download ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ Include your ICQ details in YOUR e-mail signature: = http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Home Telephone Number is: +47-51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- can=20 respond to this e-mail online.
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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:06:59 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: Betty Lise Anderson , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? <38563180.1E917A31@earthlink.net> Betty Lise Anderson wrote: > > >Tom and Anita Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > That was good! We voted on it at the last meeting, and 67% of us agreed > > > that your response to the list management was excellent. The other 33% > > > started a chat about motor oil.... > > > Tom in Clayton CA > > > > > > > >At the next meeting I shall explain how sheep's bladders may > >be employed to prevent earthquakes. I also want a > >shrubbery! > > > > A very nice shrubbery, with a little path running down the middle. (A > path! a path!) Then, you must chop down the mightiest tree in the > forest with... a herring! > > Betty Lise Anderson, Assoc. Prof. Yes! A Herring! Just for the Halibut. Ralph (From Scene 27) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:07:45 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? To: bmwk75@earthlink.net, anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/14/99 5:07:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, bmwk75@earthlink.net writes: << Yes! A Herring! Just for the Halibut. >> That joke really floundered. Any more of them might make me eel. Besides, you dont want to make a bass out of yourself! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FLYJRG@aol.com for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:43:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:43:47 EST Subject: PC800: vest info?? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am trying to find the best heated liner or vest to purchase? The specs calls for them needing between 35 and 75 watts. What is the range should I stay in using the PC. and can anyone give me a recommendation for a liner/vest? tks Richard G. flyjrg@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:30:20 -0600 From: Ralph Couey To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/14/99 5:07:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, > bmwk75@earthlink.net writes: > > << Yes! A Herring! Just for the Halibut. >> > That joke really floundered. Any more of them might make me eel. Besides, you > dont want to make a bass out of yourself! > > Russ Vernon >From my perch, I'm having a whale of a good time. On porpoise. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:26:31 -0500 From: "Kenneth L. Winter" To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: electrical testing <003401bf3c46$4b0ec660$ad660a3f@default> What is the testing procedure for a stator and a rectifier? Kenneth Winter East TN 1990 PC-800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:59:47 -0800 I have heard nothing about good things about Widder electric riding gear. I plan on buying Widder electric vest and gloves. http://www.widder.com/ Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FLYJRG@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 7:45 PM Subject: PC800: vest info?? >I am trying to find the best heated liner or vest to purchase? The specs >calls for them needing between 35 and 75 watts. What is the range should I >stay in using the PC. and can anyone give me a recommendation for a >liner/vest? tks >Richard G. >flyjrg@aol.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Tips and good ideals web sites. Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:11:41 -0800 I still look at different message boards because you never know when you come across some good info. I found two posts on the Valkyrie message boards that while were directed toward the Valkyrie could be used on about any other motorcycle. They had tips about how to do & make things, like "4-way" flashers for bikes that do not have them. Just keep in mind the wiring diagrams show colors for the Valk, I haven't checked but since it is a Honda it might be the same. Anyway, both have some good ideals, at: http://www.concentric.net/~mtz/fourways.html http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/tech_tips.html Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:31:59 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Will Edwards" , , Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:35:01 -0800 I hope that was "nothing BUT good things" about Widder? I like the new Widder system with the Arm Chaps, because it gives you the option of not having the chaps on when you don't need them. I have an older Widder vest and Widder gloves. They are both great items. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Will Edwards To: FLYJRG@aol.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 6:59 AM Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? > >I have heard nothing about good things about Widder electric riding >gear. I plan on buying Widder electric vest and gloves. >http://www.widder.com/ > >Will Edwards >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. >-----Original Message----- >From: FLYJRG@aol.com >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 7:45 PM >Subject: PC800: vest info?? > > >>I am trying to find the best heated liner or vest to purchase? The >specs >>calls for them needing between 35 and 75 watts. What is the range >should I >>stay in using the PC. and can anyone give me a recommendation for a >>liner/vest? tks >>Richard G. >>flyjrg@aol.com >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Jim Alexander" , , Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:40:46 -0800 Sorry about that, I stand corrected: >I hope that was "nothing BUT good things" about Widder? > Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:52:46 -0400 To: "Kenneth L. Winter" , Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: electrical testing If you are getting good charging voltage and current they're good. Stator: If each of the three phase coils have continuity to ground and do not have continuity to each other, the stator is probably good. Voltage Regulator (VR) There is a testing procedure for this in the book, but it doesn't really work. The way you test it is: - check the stator - replace the VR. if things work, it was the VR. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:26:26 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>I am trying to find the best heated liner or vest to purchase? The >specs >>calls for them needing between 35 and 75 watts. What is the range >should I >>stay in using the PC. and can anyone give me a recommendation for a >>liner/vest? tks >>Richard G. >>flyjrg@aol.com I've been using a Widder vest for a number of years, and have been quite happy. My extra-large-size vest draws about 55 watts, so I installed a voltmeter on the bike, and turn the vest down or off in town (which matches my heating needs anyway). The PC seems to be rather oblivious to the vest's power draw, actually, but I guess that's a mark of the electrical system being used within its capacity. This is my second vest - Widder replaced free the first one when it was about a year old and wouldn't heat (internal discontinuity). My current vest is about 3 years old, and gets daily use all winter. I got the vest with the heated collar because the neck is a major blood circulation point. I also got the 'thermostat' (actually a duty-cycle controller) so I could dial in my temperature rather than just switch it on/off. Widder's new arm chaps look interesting, but I think I'd prefer Gerbing's heated jacket (don't want to mess with straps, etc.). Gerbing has the reputation of putting out more heat, but then they draw more power, too, of course. Both Widder and Gerbing provides heated clothing that you'll wonder how you ever got by without. Thermostats, heated collars, and heated sleeves are all matters of personal preferernce. warmly, Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:15:04 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: vest info?? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rstar@aa.net writes: >I have heard nothing about good things about Widder electric riding >gear. I plan on buying Widder electric vest and gloves. >http://www.widder.com/ > >Will Edwards >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... You might want to check into the heated liners Gerbing has to offer (quilted & non-quilted). They have heated sleeves and collars that put them a step above just a vest for keeping you totally warm. Gerbing will even take a liner from a jacket you already own and weave the heating elements into it if you prefer. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (Dave Klein) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:49:39 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 97 Pacific Coast 4 Sale Greeting's & Happy Holidays, My PC is 4 sale. Excellent condition with all service records. New Tires, Taller Honda Windshield, Trunk Bags & trunk lights, Backrest,14400 miles, 80/100 bulb front, Halogen bulbs rear, Has Honda Cover. $5995-O.B.O. Dave Klein-Fort Wayne, Ind. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ETWL5N6Z; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:30:36 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: FLYJRG@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:29:57 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: vest info?? From: Harvey P Sattin Richard, I have the Eclipse Nordic Sportrider electric vest with thermostat. I am very happy with it. If you are to go into a store to try on vests, be sure to bring your riding jacket with you. I didn't like the way the vest with the collar felt under my jacket. I couldn't snap the neck snaps on my jacket with that vest under it. Also, If it rains and that collar is sticking out, I bet that it and your neck will get wet. Be sure to get a vest that's snug. A loose-fitting electric vest won't keep you warm. A good bet might be the one that Rider Warehouse sells. It looks like a nice one. Good luck, Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:43:47 EST FLYJRG@aol.com writes: > I am trying to find the best heated liner or vest to purchase? The > specs > calls for them needing between 35 and 75 watts. What is the range > should I > stay in using the PC. and can anyone give me a recommendation for a > liner/vest? tks > Richard G. > flyjrg@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: victoria sheets Subject: PC800: Backrest for sale..... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --0-846930886-945296803=:21888 After changing to a Corbin seat, we have a honda stock backrest we will offer for sale......$75...plus we will throw in a "Charley" original taller backrest absolutely free...thanks Charley and Vicky Sheets '95 PC800...black and silver....."Hakuna Matata" --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping. --0-846930886-945296803=:21888

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--0-846930886-945296803=:21888-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: vest info? How to Make Your Own Vest Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:01:45 -0800 I almost forgot about "Sue's Home Page" at: http://orion.it.luc.edu/~sdiaz/ Follow her links and she shows how to make your own electric vest and pants for just a few bucks. I have never tried it, just pointing out the information. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:39:00 EST Subject: PC800: GPS and Palm Pilot.... To: bryceu@worldnet.att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Hi, How much experience has anyone had with the Palm Pilot? And a GPS unit? Has anyone melded the two into a functional whole? I'd like to get a small, easy device to grab my e-mail while on the road Palm Vx and modem) .... and also use the GPS and the mapping programs written for the Palm.... However, in some respects, the Palm may add no value for the GPS functionality... Any way, just looking for some feedback.... Thanks, TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:31:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:31:01 EST Subject: PC800: The few, the proud, the loons To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu So, I'm riding the PC last night... Enjoying the neighbourhood Christmas light displays. (And feeling very amused at being able to do it on the bike, in below freezing weather.) Feeling toasty in my previously raved about coverall, I snaked out onto the highway for a few speed trials on my "remanufactured" 95. A single light hits my starboard mirror and rapidly grows. I ease over to the far side of the lane, expecting something like a beater Chevy with a popped headlight. Instead, A Harley blasts past, clocking in at about 70 mph. The rider is wearing jeans, a denim jacket, a soup bowl helmet and sunglasses... Oh, and a large, juicy grin. Which I feel rising on my own face in response. I throttled up a bit to get along side. He eyed my winter riding outfit. I eyed his professional Harley rider outfit. He eyed my buttoned up PC, I eyed his ratted out Springer. He raised a hand, I raised mine, and then he opened up the throttle and tore off, easily breaking a hundred as he vanished. Knowing when I'd been outclassed, I dove off the highway and went back to puttering around on the surface roads. Friends, no matter what we may think and write about other machines and their riders, no matter how ill we may be treated... We are _all_ the same thing, under the skin. Wierdos, werewolves, running our machines and grinning into the night. I got back home and garaged the bike against the anticipated snow. I went into my apartment and began stripping off my gear. My roommate asked me how the ride went... And I realized that I couldn't possibly explain it to him. He gets into his Cavalier, turns on the tunes, and rockets around town with his only thought being destination and obstacles. How could I explain the silence, the feeling of control and mastery, the sense of floating through and yet being connected with every bit of scenery? How could I explain the encounter with the Harley guy which still causes a smile when I think about it? I tried, once, this past summer. Before the accident, I offered him a little ride across the bridge and into rural Iowa. I told him that, once we were past all the city light pollution, the intensity of the stars overhead would all but drill him to his seat. I told him about being able to hear the high end whine of TV sets as yuou road past houses, being able to smell the taste of coffee from the Folgers plant as you rolled past. Told him about the steady thumping of the engine and the slap of rubber from the tires making a rythm as you ran along. "Eh," he said, "I'm scared of bikes." " I am too," I replied. "I'm constantly aware of how little it would take, at speed, to turn me into spaghetti-o's." " Then how can it be fun?" "Because... With a surprisingly small amount of practice and awareness, you can avoid almost everything out there that could kill you... And once you learn that... The experience becomes very vivid. It isn't travel, it's sensation." "What if some drunk comes barrelling into you at ninety miles per hour?" "Why weren't you looking out for the drunk?" "Okay, you're running down a road and a deer steps out in your path." "Your heart stops, your breathing stops, and your brain locks up. That's when instinct and training take over. A part of the brain that you rarely use kicks in. You start looking for places to aim the bike that will avoid the deer. If you see one, your bike follows your eyes. If you do not see one, you start looking for ways to stop short of the deer, or to force the thing to leap off in the opposite direction. If all else fails, you work at controlling the collision. Reduce speed, skid if you must, prepare to drop the bike and ride it down.Or, plan ahead and avoid places where deer might cross the road." He just didn't get it. I trust that you guys do. I was robbed of the last six months of riding, but I was able to get in just a taste before snow fell here in Omaha. Thank God. Kendall 95 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:34:16 EST Subject: Re: PC800: The few, the proud, the loons To: KGray96057@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/15/99 11:32:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, KGray96057@aol.com writes: << He just didn't get it. I trust that you guys do. I was robbed of the last six months of riding, but I was able to get in just a taste before snow fell here in Omaha. Thank God. >> C'mon Kendall! You dont really like riding that Pacific Coast now do you? You did a really fine job putting into words what all of the chosen few know already: that there just aint nothing that compares with a good ride on a PC800. I remember just a couple of years ago when I was out for a 500+ mile ride on my own PC (which incidentally is also a '95 model). It was in the mid to high 30's that day. I was doing something that I do not usually like to do, that being riding of the freeway. I had gotten a late start and I was heading to Cape Geraldo (sp?) Missouri from Lebanon Tennessee. I was wearing a snowmobile suit with my Widder electric vest on underneath. My boots were thermal and I had a Polar mask on under my helmet. My Widder electric gloves were doing their job as well. Since I was traveling by myself, I had the CB radio tuned to channel 19 so that I could listen to the truckers. I spent the whole day and part of the evening in delight listening to the bemused truckers talking about "that guy on that black whateveritis motorcycle". The usual comments were along the lines of "you KNOW that he is cold" and "I'll Bette that he's freezin' his ASS off!" Usually I would thumb the talk switch and let them know that I am definitely NOT cold and as a matter of fact, am quite warm and comfortable thank you very much. So warm and comfortable was I, that I actually spent a good deal of the riding singing inside my helmet as the miles flew by. I really enjoyed the "he must be NUTS!" looks from the cagers too. The FOOLS! If only they knew. But how could they? The answer is, of course, that they could not. They were not True Believers. Certainly, a good many of them probably rode motorcycles on occasion. But these were most likely the types that as soon as the thermometer dropped below 70 for the first time of the season, the bikes were put in the garage until next year. And when the weather is wonderful, they are likely to proclaim that they went for a "good long ride" of around 50 miles or so. Sometimes not even that far. I met a man a year ago last summer that proclaimed that he just loved to ride. As proof, he pointed to his odometer on his Suzuki GS 500. "See that? Only had the bike for three months and I've already got a thousand miles on it." If you think that it took a great deal of control on my part not to fall on the ground in hysterical laughter then you are correct. When I pointed out to him that my bike was but three years old and had over 50,000 miles on it he just looked at me like I was crazy. Which to him, of course, I was. The fool. One does not become a True Believer by getting a tattoo proclaiming himself to be one. You either are, or you are not. Simple as either alive or dead. When you ride just for the utter enjoyment of it, the sheer thrill of it, for the simple reason that it was one of the reasons that God put you here, then perhaps you are on you way. Good letter, Kendall. I have filed you under the abbreviation "TB". Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: GPS and Palm Pilot.... To: GuntherSki@aol.com Cc: pclist TZ- Try http://www.handspring.com/ It seems some former palm pilot execs left the company and formed another called handspring. They have a product called a "visor" that is much like the palm pilot, but it takes expansion cards (similar but not the same as PCMCIA). One of the cards it takes is a GPS unit. Others include games, modem for email and internet, pager, etc. It looks impressive, but I haven't seen one yet. I ordered one as a gift, but it hasn't arrived yet. John --- GuntherSki@aol.com wrote: > ...with the Palm > Pilot? And a GPS unit? Has > anyone melded the two into a functional whole? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:58:27 -0500 From: "Kenneth L. Winter" To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Belstaff Francois and Tim and list members, Did you read the article about making your own heated clothes. Check it out. The direct link to the article is: http://orion.it.luc.edu/~sdiaz/electrics.html And to confirm her web site is at: http://orion.it.luc.edu/~sdiaz/ I really like this idea. I am still in the " Oooh a new project mode". What problems can you foresee in such an undertaking. I wonder what the optimal placement for the wire would be. Tim could you draw the placement of the wires running in your gear? 1. Are the heated pants and gloves really needed? 2. How about feet warmers. 3. Maybe a thermostat.? Can you get a small, low voltage unit. 4. Are her electrical calculations correct? 5. What are our current draw margins on the PC? 6. How much power does your gear draw Tim? 7. Wow a new project...... Which project go on hold..? The sidecar, The VW pick up, The PC trailer???? Decisions. Decisions I hope everyone is enjoying the Christmas Season. Best wishes... Sorry for all of the questions Kenneth Winter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Belstaff Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:00:50 -0800 I don't know about the rest of you, but I get an HTTP error 503 when trying to access the site. Either this site is always busy or there are a lot of connect problems from California. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 14k, '99 Bushtech Quantum trailer. > ---------- > From: Kenneth L. Winter > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:58 AM > To: Francois Saint Laurent; pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: Belstaff > > > > Francois and Tim and list members, > Did you read the article about making your own heated clothes. Check it > out. > The direct link to the article is: > http://orion.it.luc.edu/~sdiaz/electrics.html > And to confirm her web site is at: > http://orion.it.luc.edu/~sdiaz/ > > I really like this idea. I am still in the " Oooh a new project mode". > What problems can you foresee in such an undertaking. I wonder what the > optimal placement for the wire would be. Tim could you draw the > placement of the wires running in your gear? > > 1. Are the heated pants and gloves really needed? > 2. How about feet warmers. > 3. Maybe a thermostat.? Can you get a small, low voltage unit. > 4. Are her electrical calculations correct? > 5. What are our current draw margins on the PC? > 6. How much power does your gear draw Tim? > 7. Wow a new project...... Which project go on hold..? The sidecar, The > VW pick up, The PC trailer???? Decisions. Decisions > > I hope everyone is enjoying the Christmas Season. > Best wishes... Sorry for all of the questions > > Kenneth Winter > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:41:17 -0500 To: PC owners of the world Reply-to: Arvid Løvik From: Arvid Løvik Subject: PC800: I'm a Dumpster Diver! Hey! I found a special treasure for you! Something you've always wanted. It's waiting for you at: http://www.hoosiertimes.com/cgi-bin/dumpdive?codeword=pc804856&c= in Dumpster Diver. Your secret code is: pc804856 When you go to pick up your surprise, remember to bring along your secret code. Arvid Løvik -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:42:17 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Belstaff Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:43:25 -0600 If you want to try a thermostat, try the Widder. I think the other folks are having problems with theirs. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Kenneth L. Winter" > 3. Maybe a thermostat.? Can you get a small, low voltage unit. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Arvid L vik" , "PC owners of the world" Subject: Re: PC800: I'm a Dumpster Diver! Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:25:38 -0800 Arvid, I think you need to stop by where I work, there are some doctors who want to evaluate your thinking process. Where do you find this stuff? On second thought, don't tell me, my kids will want to know more. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid Løvik To: PC owners of the world Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:43 PM Subject: PC800: I'm a Dumpster Diver! >Hey! I found a special treasure for you! Something you've always >wanted. It's waiting for you at: > > http://www.hoosiertimes.com/cgi-bin/dumpdive?codeword=pc804856&c= > >in Dumpster Diver. > >Your secret code is: pc804856 > >When you go to pick up your surprise, remember to bring along your >secret code. > >Arvid Løvik > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:30:39 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? To: bmwk75@earthlink.net, anitom@pacbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 12/14/99 7:01:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, bmwk75@earthlink.net writes: << I also want a shrubbery! >> That's right bring us some shubbery or we'll bite your legs off so you can't ride your PC any more Rob Cary NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Milipias Honda Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:50:20 -0500 How's the best way to contact Milipias Honda? My wife ordered a set of inner saddle bag luggage from Compitition Acc and I feel she got gouged. TIA Mike Whited -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:59:19 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Milipias Honda To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM writes: >How's the best way to contact Milipias Honda? My wife ordered a >set of inner >saddle bag luggage from Compitition Acc and I feel she got gouged. > >TIA >Mike Whited 408-263-6060 Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:43:35 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: T.E. Lawrence on Riding (long) In view of the recent "The few, the proud, the loons" thread, I'm forwarding something that I posted to the Hawk list last weekend, after they started waxing philosophical about why we ride. Tracking down this essay was more work than I expected, after false leads into "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" and various collections of letters. The final paragraph says it all. The Road Excerpted from T. E. Lawrence's collection of essays, "The Mint," copyright 1955 by Doubleday & Company, Inc. Note: Lawrence called all his Brough Superior motorcycles Boanerges, "the sons of thunder." T. E. Lawrence died in a motorcycle crash on May 13, 1935. ------ ***** ------ Boanerges' first glad roar at being alive again nightly jarred the huts of Cadet College into life.... Boa is a top-gear machine, as sweet in that as most single-cylinders in middle. I chug lordlily past the guard-room and through the speed limit at no more than sixteen. Round the bend, past the farm, and the way straightens. Now for it. The engine's final development is fifty-two horsepower. A miracle that all this docile strength waits behind one tiny lever for the pleasure of my hand. Another bend: and I have the honour of one of England's straightest and fastest roads. The burble of my exhaust unwound like a long cord behind me. Soon my speed snapped it, and I heard only the cry of the wind which my battering head split and fended aside. The cry rose with my speed to a shriek: while the air's coldness streamed like two jets of iced water into my dissolving eyes. I screwed them to slits, and focused my sight two hundred yards ahead of me on the empty mosaic of the tar's gravelled undulations. Like arrows the tiny flies pricked my cheeks: and sometimes a heavier body, some house-fly or beetle, would crash into face or lips like a spent bullet. A glance at the speedometer: seventy-eight. Bianerges is warming up. I pull the throttle right open, on top of the slope, and we swoop flying across the dip, and up-down up-down the switchback beyond: the weighty machine launching itself like a projectile with a whirr of wheels into the air at the take-off of each rise, to land lurchingly with such a snatch of the driving chain as jerks my spine like a rictus. Once we so fled across the evening light, with the yellow sun on my left, when a huge shadow roared just overheat. A Bristol Fighter, from Whitewash Villas, our neighbour aerodrome, was banking sharply round. I checked speed an instant to wave: and the slip-stream of my impetus snapped my arm and elbow astern, like a raised flail. The pilot pointed down the road towards Lincoln. I sat hard in the saddle, folded back my ears and went away after him, like a dog after a hare. Quickly we drew abreast, as the impulse of his dive to my level exhausted itself. The next mile of road was rough. I braced my feet into the rests, thrust with my arms, and clenched my knees on the tank till its rubber grips goggled under my thighs. Over the first pot-hole Boanerges screamed in surprise, its mud-guard bottoming with a yawp upon the tyre. Through the plunges of the next ten seconds I clung on, wedging my gloved hand in the throttle lever so that no bump should close it and spoil our speed. Then the bicycle wrenched sideways into three long ruts: it swayed dizzily, wagging its tail for thirty awful yards. Out came the clutch, the engine raced freely: Boa checked and straightened his head with a shake as a Brough should. ...I dared, on a rise, to slow imperceptibly and glance sideways into the sky. There the Bif was, two hundred yards and more back. Play with the fellow? Why not? I slowed to ninety: signalled with my hand for him to overtake. Slowed ten more: sat up. Over he rattled. His passenger, a helmeted and goggled grin, hung out of the cock-pit to pass me the 'Up yer' Raf randy greeting. They were hoping I was a flash in the pan, giving them best. Open went my throttle again. Boa crept level, fifty feet below: held them: sailed ahead into the clean and lonely country. An approaching car pulled nearly into its ditch at the sight of our race. The Bif was zooming among the trees and telegraph poles, with my scurrying spot only eighty yards ahead. I gained though, gained steadily: was perhaps five miles an hour the faster. Down went my left hand to give the engine two extra dollops of oil, for fear that something was running hot: but an overhead Jap twin, super-tuned like this one, would carry on to the moon and back, unfaltering. We drew near the settlement. A long mile before the first houses I closed down and coasted to the cross-roads by the hospital. Bif caught up, banked, climbed and turned for home, waving to me as long as he was in sight. Fourteen miles from camp, we are, here: and fifteen minutes since I left Tug and Dusty at the hut door. ...Boa and I took the Newark road for the last hour of daylight. He ambles along at forty-five and when roaring his utmost, surpasses the hundred. A skittish motor-bike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocations, to excess conferred by its honeyed untiring smoothness.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:57:39 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:57:22 -0500 From: Dana Sawyer Subject: PC800: Test message To: Pacific Coast list charset=ISO-8859-1 Happy holidays! Dana Sawyer Founder, Honda Sport Touring Association -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:40:57 -0500 Subject: PC800: Just Delete This Please To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:40:27 0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lippert, Jim" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:40:23 -0800 just to continue this thread... a moose once bit my sister... Jim Lippert Corporate Demos, Intel Corporation 408/765-5772 (desk) 800/306-8309 (pager) or 3068309@skytel.com (email to my pager) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com [mailto:ROBJHALL@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 3:31 AM To: bmwk75@earthlink.net; anitom@pacbell.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: is there anyone here? In a message dated 12/14/99 7:01:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, bmwk75@earthlink.net writes: << I also want a shrubbery! >> That's right bring us some shubbery or we'll bite your legs off so you can't ride your PC any more Rob Cary NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. name="Lippert, Jim.vcf" filename="Lippert, Jim.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Lippert;Jim FN:Lippert, Jim ORG:;100-6989-7 TEL;WORK;VOICE:(408) 765-5772 TEL;CELL;VOICE:510-697-7683 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:(800)306-8309 ADR;WORK:;RN1-34 LABEL;WORK:RN1-34 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jim.lippert@intel.com REV:19990125T231739Z END:VCARD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: , Subject: PC800: Re: A cheaper way to mount bike tires. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:05:42 -0500 I recently got a small finishing nail in the rear radial tire on my VX800. I called and researched if patching or plugging is a viable option. Two bike shops would not touch a tire to patch/plug it. A Harley shop would take off the tire and take it to a auto tire shop to patch and return and mount it. (Yea at $50 an hr labor rates) So, I took it to a large auto tire shop here (knew the manager) and The VX rim fit perfectly on the tire machine. The 4 clamps grabbed the rim, the beads were then unseated and the radial arm circles as the tire slipped right off the rim. (all of maybe 15 seconds effort so far). Then he roughed the inside patch area of the tire, punched through a small plug patch. Pulled it tight from the outside and cut off the plug flush. More glue was slopped over the inside patch and then back to the tire machine. Ten seconds later my tire is on the rim...he popped the bead and we was done. I wasn't there 12 minutes total. And When I asked how much? He said Merry Christmas. Now I know there's those of the flock that say never patch or plug a bike tire. I think we kept it conservative with a small (patch/plug) and didn't rout out a bigger hole. But the main thing is. I think we should all get out tires mounted at these places if local bike dealers continue ripping us off on tire mounting charges. My local Honda/Kaw dealer will mount & balance a tubless tire off the bike, for about $38 EACH. the independent Harley place charges me a full hr's labor at $45 plus $4 shop supplies fees and $3 disposal fee ($52). So from what I saw today a good tire man at a Auto tire dealer can do the mounting and dismounting fast and cheaply. I guess balancing could then be done if it's needed by the bike shop. Since my tire was chalk marked it went right back on in the same place on the rim so balance should be fine. Off of soap box. I know there's those on this list that get a tire mounted and balanced for $10-15 each. that's fair $38 aint. Randy in GA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 08:33:10 -0500 Subject: PC800: North East Motorcycle Show Planning To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Has anyone made some definite plans about which of the 4 big motorcycle shows here in the blustery northeastern U.S. you will be attending? I'm definitely going to be in Toronto on Jan 8 & 9 (48% exchange rate), but I am also the same distance away from the others in Philadelphia, Cleveland and New York City. Since I can't use distance from home as a determining factor maybe I can use visiting with old friends and making new ones to help me decide. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 front fender follies cont. Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:26:42 -0500 HI list, well I've gotten the uneeded lugs on the 89PC800 fork sliders ground off, sanded down and painted a smoke gray. Now mounting the smaller 97099 front fender. I ask that someone with a newer PC would you look at the mounts where the front fender is clamped on the fork sliders. How high up on the fork sliders are the clamps? It looks like it goes on the top 2 inches where the diameter is much larger than lower on the slider (around the outside of the fork seal area). Also how long are the 4 clamp bolts?? Tosh konya sent me part numbers for everything and it seems that the 4 bolts I got from Honda are too short. My allen bolts were under an inch. I think they must be about 1 and 3/4 inches? I drained the forks and flushed several times with mineral spirits. driend them for a few days. Then used PJ1 15W fork oil filled to 5.5 inches from the top. Put back in the progressive suspension fork springs with no spacer. Has about an inch of preload. So when I can find how to put that fender on correctly I'm gonna be done. thanks for any news. Randy in GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Randy Ashurst" cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 front fender follies cont. of "Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:26:42 EST." <001401bf4996$34d59d80$357b503f@radio> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:32:55 -0600 "Randy Ashurst" writes: > I drained the forks and flushed several times with mineral spirits. driend > them for a few days. Then used PJ1 15W fork oil filled to 5.5 inches from > the top. That sounds like too much oil in your forks. Might be OK if the sliders were compressed when you measured. OTOH I admit I don't have the manual handy to know what the correct volume is. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 1999 17:12:16 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Broeking" To: Subject: PC800: BMW Open House Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:18:45 -0500 Importance: Normal My friend (who is trying to turn me to a BMW RT) dragged me to "Bob's BMW X-mas Open House" today outside of DC. Actually the red Honda PC drew as many admiring looks at all of the other BMW PC's (BMW 1200LTs)... Since I had all of my Honda stickers removed, many were trying to figure out what kind of bike it was.... :-) Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:50:12 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Back on the list... Hello everyone.... I'm back on the list after a one week absence. I haven't been riding my PC800, but I did get the chance to drive a Suzuki Quadrunner in a jungle and along a private beach. I have to admit that those ATV's can be a lot of fun! Ride safe... fsl :-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:13:14 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Back on the list... Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:47:52 -0600 Welcome back. I hope your sunburn peels. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Francois Saint Laurent" To: Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: PC800: Back on the list... > > Hello everyone.... > > I'm back on the list after a one week absence. I haven't been > riding my PC800, but I did get the chance to drive a Suzuki > Quadrunner in a jungle and along a private beach. I have to admit > that those ATV's can be a lot of fun! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:54:19 -0800 Subject: PC800: Dark Side takes another one. From: "Chuck Wildman" To: pc800 Mailing list The alternate dark side (BMW K1200 LT) lead me away from the PC world. Bought the BMW recently and never looked back. The deciding factor was the weight handling capability of the PC800 -> wife & I with trunk full would have max'ed the limit and it would have been tough staying with the wingers and other 1200cc and up bikes I ride with. It's true I could have bought (4) PC800's for the price of one of these beasts, but it is clearly the winner for serious long distance cruising + comfort. Test rode a Wing and the BMW, and the BMW was the clear winner (power, comfort, smooth, handling, luxury items). I found a good home for my PC800 (Wild Wing) in Morgan Hill, California, and gave the new owner the PC800 list information so he may subscribe. Have enjoyed the list, and will 'hang around' for a while for useful information regarding accessories and riding gear. Contact me at cwildman98@earthlink.net if you have questions or want more impressions about the BMW . Best wishes for the season, ex-PC800 owner, Chuck -- Chuck Wildman, Scotts Valley, CA 1999 K1200LT, BMW Tour Bike, "Pepper" Sold -> 1996 PC800, Pacific Coast, "Wild Wing" 1980 XS1100LG, Midnight Special, "Midnight_Wildthing" 1981 XS1100LH, Midnight Special, "Kitty" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Goff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: electrical testing Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:48:16 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay To: Kenneth L. Winter ; Francois Saint Laurent ; Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Re: PC800: electrical testing > If you are getting good charging voltage and current they're good. Agreed > > Stator: > If each of the three phase coils have continuity to ground and do not have > continuity to each other, the stator is probably good. No NO nO NO NO NO. Each of the 3 phase coils, (yellow wires) should be continuous with each other and completely insulated from ground. > Voltage Regulator (VR) > There is a testing procedure for this in the book, but it doesn't really work. > The way you test it is: > - check the stator > - replace the VR. if things work, it was the VR. The VR should limit the voltage from the generator to 15.5V. BTW the VR on the PC is a combined rectifier/regulator and the same as the VFR750 et al. If you need to change it, use a pattern part. Russ Studying hard for City & Guilds Motorcycle Maint. exams. '89 PC800 "Obelix" '81 CX500 "Maggot" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id no for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:52:33 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: We are off to sunny Tenerife !!! Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:44:52 +0100 Going......going.............GONE !!! It will be a fortnight until You will be bothered again with My problems = . ( if I don't find a Internet Cafe on the Island though ) Until Next Year, We all in the family will like to wish You all=20 a very=20 Merry Christmas=20 and all the best for the forthcoming riding seasons in the=20 New Millennium Greeting from=20 Torill, Arvid and The Impossible One (Vidar) in Stavanger Norway ( Currently En-route to=20 Sunny Spain ) =20 =20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:22:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:22:02 EST Subject: PC800: 89 Plastic & parts for Slae To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers & Coasters: While looking for a mirror housing for Lovik, I stumbled across other 89 parts & plastic. I have a top white front fender, and the lower grey front piece that sits under the radiator (looks like a sewer grate) the grey, lower left piece of plastic and the left air vent piece and screen. All plastic is in excellent condition. I am selling my 89 and have no use for these parts anymore. If interested, contact me. Rob Cary NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:25:34 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:24:37 -0500 From: Dana Sawyer Subject: PC800: early-late model PCs To: Pacific Coast list charset=ISO-8859-1 FWIW... Opinions are like belly buttons...everyone has one! I had a '90 PC for 8 years and now have a '97, so I've had both kinds. I much prefer the '97. I don't miss the self-cancelling turn signals. I like the sporty appearance of the front end. That includes the front fender and the front fork. I don't have a left muffler. I do have a small collector under the bike, which I prefer not to emphasize by putting a chrome cover on it. I just keep it cleaned and like its inoffensive, dull black appearance. And...I like the Tabasco red color. I have a Givi top box in red. It ain't a perfect color match, but it's close enough for me. I sure like my PeeCee! Happy holidaze! Dana Sawyer Founder, HSTA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:35:08 -0400 To: "Russ Goff" , From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: electrical testing Russ wrote: >No NO nO NO NO NO. Each of the 3 phase coils, (yellow wires) should be >continuous with each other and completely insulated from ground. :-( yes I realized my mistake as soon as I hit "send". My apologies. Thanks Russ. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Shoei Spectra Shields Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 06:57:54 PST Fellow Brothers and Sisters of the PC, I wear a Shoei RF-R most of the time and want to lay in a couple of replacement shields for future use. In addition to an extra clear I have been looking at one of the Specta shields but was wondering how dark these shields are. None of the local dealers stock the shields so I have no way to gauge the degree of tint directly. They come as mirrored, blue or gold tint. If any of you have used this shield would you call the tint dark, medium or light ? Are they so tinted as to restrict night vision ? Would you estimate they reduce the light on a bright sunny day by 50% or more or less ? I realize this is going to be one of those subjective questions but any assistance you can offer would be most appreciated. Des, 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:04:14 -0600 From: William Drake To: Desmond Cockburn CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Shoei Spectra Shields Des, I checked out the mirrored shield for RF-700. It is not that dark. I currently use the dark colored on I think it is called smoked) and that is much darker than the mirrored. I asked my local dealer why and all they could think of was that that the mirrored one is for cosmetic reasons, i.e.; so you look cool also the mirrored was $20 more. Hope that helps you some. Have a safe & Happy Holiday Season !!! Bill 97 PC Bolingbrook, IL Desmond Cockburn wrote: > > Fellow Brothers and Sisters of the PC, > > I wear a Shoei RF-R most of the time and want to lay in a couple of > replacement shields for future use. In addition to an extra clear I have > been looking at one of the Specta shields but was wondering how dark these > shields are. None of the local dealers stock the shields so I have no way > to gauge the degree of tint directly. > > They come as mirrored, blue or gold tint. If any of you have used this > shield would you call the tint dark, medium or light ? Are they so tinted > as to restrict night vision ? Would you estimate they reduce the light on a > bright sunny day by 50% or more or less ? > > I realize this is going to be one of those subjective questions but any > assistance you can offer would be most appreciated. > > Des, > 95 PC, Dream Weaver > Okmulgee, Ok. > "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. > It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Bob Broeking" , Subject: Re: PC800: BMW Open House Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:38:04 -0800 Since I > had all of my Honda stickers removed, many were trying to figure out what > kind of bike it was.... :-) Bob Sounds to me, Bob, like you are dang near desperately in need of a Body by Tupperware decal. I have just six left... $8 for one, $12 for two, $20 for four. When they're gone, they're gone. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo" BBT > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Back on the list... Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:39:59 -0800 I did get the chance to drive a Suzuki > Quadrunner in a jungle and along a private beach. I have to admit > that those ATV's can be a lot of fun! They're so cheap, though. Not a one comes from the factory with a kick stand... Lee Barker > > > Ride safe... > > fsl :-) > > *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** > > 1. > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 19 Dec 1999 10:47:40 -0600 (CST) 19 Dec 1999 11:37:42 -0500 (EST) 19 Dec 1999 11:37:40 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:39:22 -0500 From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Back on the list... To: Lee Barker Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <001701bf4a37$520e7880$4e09b0d8@greatned> Francois Saint Laurent >I did get the chance to drive a Suzuki > > Quadrunner in a jungle and along a private beach. I have to admit > > that those ATV's can be a lot of fun! At 7:39 AM -0800 12/19/99, Lee Barker wrote: >They're so cheap, though. Not a one comes from the factory with a kick >stand... > True...it didn't have a kick stand.... or a kick start, either. And of course, since these were rented ATV's, in Mexico, they were also missing front brake lever, front brake, chain and sprocket guards, most body work, and had no lining left on the rear brake. Stopping was best accomplished by hitting the person in front of you, or finding a tree. Oh...one more thing.....I think the front steering head bearings were what you would call "Loose". When you went over bumps, you could feel about an inch of free play in them. These bikes were equipped with a Reverse, but unfortunately the knob needed to engage reverse was missing, so you couldn't use it. It didn't matter anyhow, because to use reverse you must first shift into neutral, which also seemed to be missing on the one I drove ! Still......it was a real blast to drive flat out along the beach in a few inches of water. It's an experience I highly recommend! Ride safe.. fsl ;-) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7A1775D0206; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:36:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Desmond Cockburn" , Subject: Re: PC800: Shoei Spectra Shields Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:36:41 -0500 I feel the same way! I have a gold shield and I guess it does make you look 'cool'... but you cannot tell any diference in tint than with a regular smoke shield. I wear mine at night unless I am on 2 lanes curvy roads where therre is not much light. They need to come up with a polarized shield... to cut down the glare. Then the cost would be even higher than the mirror shields. Michael ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 9:57 AM Subject: PC800: Shoei Spectra Shields > Fellow Brothers and Sisters of the PC, > > I wear a Shoei RF-R most of the time and want to lay in a couple of > replacement shields for future use. In addition to an extra clear I have > been looking at one of the Specta shields but was wondering how dark these > shields are. None of the local dealers stock the shields so I have no way > to gauge the degree of tint directly. > > They come as mirrored, blue or gold tint. If any of you have used this > shield would you call the tint dark, medium or light ? Are they so tinted > as to restrict night vision ? Would you estimate they reduce the light on a > bright sunny day by 50% or more or less ? > > I realize this is going to be one of those subjective questions but any > assistance you can offer would be most appreciated. > > Des, > 95 PC, Dream Weaver > Okmulgee, Ok. > "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. > It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FN06AI02.UFC; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:32:42 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Cc: "Victor Hageman" , "Yuri M. van den Hooren" , "Yetvart" , "Patricia van der Linden" , "Patricia hotmail" , "Martin Wagenaar" , "Marco Reitsema" , "Lohan Johnson" , "Joel Kasof" , "Jan Gerritsen" , "Fred Appelman" , "Danny van Nierop" , "Brian Hopkins" , "Ascon de Vries" Subject: PC800: Somewhat PC related..it's a motorcycle and you can't see the engine thru the fairing... Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:28:52 +0100 Somewhat PC related..it's a motorcycle, you can't see the engine thru the fairing and the exhaust looks a little similar expect that it's got a hole 10 times as big...: http://www.maxturbine.com Jetpowered bike, costs only $1000000,00 USD.. But you do get 0 to 200 mph (322 km/h) in +/- 5 sec's (keep breathing now..) and a top of 266 mph (428 km/h)... No mirrors (like you need them), instead there is a camera in the tail and a monitor in the cockpit (I guess to prevent helm loss by windforce when you turn your head to check the mirrors...). Don't know or wanna know it's mileage... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FN06L902.WGH; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:39:09 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Cc: "Victor Hageman" , "Yuri M. van den Hooren" , "Yetvart" , "Patricia van der Linden" , "Patricia hotmail" , "Martin Wagenaar" , "Marco Reitsema" , "Lohan Johnson" , "Joel Kasof" , "Jan Gerritsen" , "Fred Appelman" , "Danny van Nierop" , "Brian Hopkins" , "Ascon de Vries" Subject: PC800: Re: Somewhat PC related..it's a motorcycle and you can't see the engine thru the fairing... Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:36:55 +0100 >http://www.maxturbine.com >Jetpowered bike, costs only $1000000,00 USD.. Make that $225000 USD according to http://www.maxturbine.com/y2kbike.htm (includes nice pic.) Hmm....nope, still don't have that kind of money in my wallet... let's wait for my christmas bonus... Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: rolling flat Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:21:01 -0800 Hi tire experts... I was off to the town 20 miles distant this beautiful morning when the handling on Secondo got a bit squirrelly. I shifted position in the lane (our "lane" is in thirds: two tire tracks, worn down by tire studs, and a hefty crown in the center) and no change. Pulled off, and low the back baloney was shy of wind. I turned about and did a very slow first gear mile back to where I could park the bike, removed the tire and got a lift back home. Now the request for advice: The tire has 3700 miles on it. There is no sign of any foreign matter in the tire. Would you: replace it get it worked on and plugged and in a small town, where? The two bike shops here have changing machines but I don't think they do the repair. Lee Barker 95 Pacific Coast "Secondo" 60 Cushman Eagle (for sale) 51 Cushman Roadking Tubular "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:19:42 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Lee Barker" , Subject: Re: PC800: rolling flat Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:21:29 -0800 First, you should probably fill the tire with air while it is still on the wheel and use soapy water to find the hole, if there is one. Perhaps it is a leak a the valve stem ... in which case either shop could do the repair. If you find some leak, other than that, take it to one of the shops and tell them that you just want to patch it to get the bike back home and stored until you can "afford' the new tire. They don't have to know whether or not you could buy one, but considering the season, they would probably help you out with the repair. Depending on where the hole is, you could probably put off the repair until the spring. Since you're in Redmond OR, you're going to get enough bad weather to slow you down until spring and not put on that many miles anyway. If it hold air until then, you are probably going to be OK with it. In any case, you should be able to get another 1,000 to 2,000 miles out of the tire, if the hole is not in a sidewall. Just my .02, YMMV. Jim Alexander Bay Point, CA 1998 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU, AMA #415932, STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lee Barker [snip] >Now the request for advice: > >The tire has 3700 miles on it. > >There is no sign of any foreign matter in the tire. > >Would you: replace it > > get it worked on and plugged > >and in a small town, where? > >The two bike shops here have changing machines but I don't think they do the >repair. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Dana Sawyer , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: early-late model PCs of "Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:24:37 EST." <199912190824_MC2-91A6-5C11@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:53:40 -0600 Dana Sawyer writes: > > I sure like my PeeCee! Before I had a Pacific Coast I named a computer: nospam: {1670} nslookup PeeCee.tbe.com Server: ns1.HiWAAY.net Address: 208.147.144.2 Name: PeeCee.tbe.com Address: 140.165.13.5 nospam: {1671} host 140.165.13.5 5.13.165.140.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer peecee.tbe.com nospam: {1672} Don't bother trying to access it. While its in DNS, its behind a firewall. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:54:43 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: rolling flat ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" >The tire has 3700 miles on it. > >There is no sign of any foreign matter in the tire. > >Would you: replace it get it worked on and plugged >and in a small town, where? Me, I'd pump it up again and see if it held air and for how long. Soapy water smeared over it will help find the leak. Rim/bead problems and bad valve cores can be 'non-foreign object' leakage problems. If that didn't show results I'd remove the tire and inspect it from the inside. I had a nail once that was absolutely invisible from the outside -- headless, it had gone in past the outside surface of the tire, and the rubber closed up behind it so even soapy water wouldn't show the leak, but it still needed 1 to 2 psi added per week. Tire manufacturers always say to replace not patch tires, but based on the large number of people who successfully ride with patched tires, you can do it if the hole is not too big, you aren't riding in 'sport-bike' style, and are not over-loaded. The best patch is a mushroom-shaped one installed from inside. Second best is probably the mushroom-shaped one installed from outside (a la Stop 'n' Go) or a Dynaplug. Any concerns, then just replace the tire. best, -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <-- FOR SALE -- http://www.toward.com/BMW.html '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Shoei Spectra Shields Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:21:32 PST >From: "Michael D. Linkous" >I wear mine at night unless I am on 2 lanes >curvy roads where therre is not >much light. > >They need to come up with a polarized shield... to cut down the glare. >Then >the cost would be even higher than the mirror shields. I'm with you Mike !! I'd almost pay whatever for a polarized shield ! I am at the point in life where glasses are a required accessory and clip-on polarized lens just add bulk and flap around when I wear the open face HJC in the summer. Got the bright idea, no pun intended, that I would try the magnetic clips from the optometrist, better but 90 bucks in polarized ! Forget that ! So, I guess I would shell out at least 90 for a polarized shield. So, if I understand the last three posts, the mirrored shield is about the same tint level as the smoked shield. Hummmm, I could ride with that. Thanks to all for the comments. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ray Brannum" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:55:59 -0600 I was in a discount auto supply store "Carport",. looking for some electrical connectors to use in connecting a BMW plug to my 1995 PC. Happened upon a set of duel horns from Fiamm at $23.00. Nice looking horns with a chrome grill. The part number is 3-0101. To make a long story short I purchased them and today I mounted them to the metal rim that holds the headlight in place. I drilled out the lower left and right nuts to serve to hold the lower light trim in place. I also cut out a portion of the trim so as to make better contact with the metal rim and to also give more room for the short nut on the top of the horn. I attached one wire between the left horn and the metal retaining bracket. I connected this to the positive side of the existing horn wire. In effect this turned the metal light bracket into a buss bar. I then connected the ground wire of the existing horn to the two spade fittings on the new horns. Now I have duel horns that are much louder than those on my Dodge truck. I just left the existing horn attached in case some future owner did not like the Fiamms. Just thought I would pass this along to any of those who don't like the wimpy horns on the PC. Ray Brannum 1995 Little Wild Bird 1972 Steen Skybolt - Wild Bird -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:54:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:54:56 EST Subject: PC800: Snow To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu When I was a young lad, my family lived in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Now... Sioux Falls is probably snow's favourite target-outside of Chicago. In 1973 we got so much snow in one night that- to get to school in the morning- my brother and I left the house through a second story window. (I used to have a newspaper clipping that I would show to people who doubted this story. It showed a sidestreet that was so saturated with the fluffy white stuff that there was nothing visible but the top floors of the houses and the street lamps and telephone poles.) My father spent several hours tunnelling out of the house, excavating the garage and clearing a path to the road for the car. (Ironically, once the car was free to travel, there was no way for it to go past the drive. My father gave up when he realized that he had to shovel what amounted to a _ramp_ to get up to the street level... Where the car would likely sink.) My brother and I- once we got out of school- spent that same amount of time playing and building snow monsters and aggravating the staff of the nearby hospital. ( Our father was on staff there, and they were well used to ill mannered Gray children appearing in all sorts of unlikely spots.) When I got older, and our family moved down to Omaha, I became familiar with shoveling- and my father's fanatic desire to have the drive clear and dry as toast as soon after the snow stopped falling as possible. But still... I enjoyed the snow. I'm of a brooding nature- I prefer to think of it as thoughtfull, but my friends would definately term it otherwise- and I would take the various family dogs out for long walks in the stuff, enjoying the silence and the clarity of the air... When I bought my first real car- a battered 73 Toyota FJ40 Landcruiser (by God, that was a thing of beauty. All steel and iron, levers and knobs and vent panels in every possible spot. Only vehicle I've owned that could literally go _anywhere_) I found myself looking forward to the mucky weather because I could lock the hubs, pull the transfer lever and blast that monster though anything nature could deliver. Then.. Over the course of one spectacular, bronzed summer, my friend Curtis Boyd told a spectacular lie.. And got me into motorcycling. We were in his garage, and Curt was drooling over his latest act of motorcycle salvage, an old Suzuki trail bike that he had gotten for $50.00 and was slowly putting back together. These two girls in bikinis stopped by and started acting enthusiastic about Curt and the bikes and... One of them asked me whether I rode. At the time, I did not. Curt smiled and tossed his mane of blonde hair and told the girls that I had, in fact, taught him. I appreciated this lie, this kindness, this attempt to smooth things over for his awkward around girls friend... And, in trying to express this to Curt- violating the rules of guy friendship somewhat severely- I somehow ended up taking a test ride on his old Honda Elsinore. I barely got the thing down the driveway and back, but once I did... Well.. I could feel the hook set in my mouth. Over the course of that summer, I rode every damned thing I could get my leg over. I rode dirt, mainly, figuring that falling off on the sand by the lake, or in the grass on the trail, would be a lot easier than dropping it on the street. I believe that learning to ride in this manner is entirely responsible for my current riding style, actually. Trail riding isn't about speed. It's about exploring and experiencing. It's about shoving everything that you need into a pack and vanishing for the weekend. Coming back home with a three day growth and a bad case of sock-rot and that wicked, wicked, unexplainable grin... Eventually, I fell in love with an 81 Yamaha Seca 750. (Helluva ride there,strong in every gear, capable of an honest 130 mph despite the regulation 85 mph speedometer. As with all first streetbikes, I rode that poor bastard to pieces. Recently pulled it out of the garage where it rested in a state of honored death- like many of you, I bet, I have garages stuffed with never to be finished projects. I held onto the Seca for years, thinking that I would eventually put her back on the road- and sold it to a restoration minded kid. Looked a lot like Curt.) Moving from trail to street riding brought me, for the first time in my life, in dorect conflict with the weather. I learned to deal with rain and cold.. But snow.. With having to abandon a bike for months at a time.. Never have dealt with that very well. This past week's snowfall- a few inches- has me just twittery. I get the bike back after months and months, I get in a few splendid rides... And now the bike sits in the garage, slowly gathering coat after coat of obsessive compulsive polish. I motor around in my Tracker, toasty warm, listening to NPR and sipping at my early morning coffee... Watching the neighborhood kids playing, the parents shovelling... Noting with amusement the newer SUV owners struggling with the realities of four wheel drive.( Sure, you can _go_ better, but stopping is _no_ easier.) And I am... Irritated. Irritated because I'm not able to ride. I swear, one of these days, I am moving south and west. I'll sit on the back porch in shirtsleeve weather, drinking an iced tea... And I'll watch the TV weather reports for Omaha and Sioux Falls... Watch for the pictures of the snow, piling up and blowing through the streets. I'll shake my head in sympathy, and then jump on my trusty PC... Take a fast ride down to the beach for a quick swim.... Kendall Gray Grinch -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:11:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:11:33 EST Subject: PC800: The Dark Side To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I've ridden quite a few motorcycles. Bikes so fast that it was all that I could do to hold on- ( I ran into a kid who was selling his Honda Endophinrush 9900xx or whatever this summer.Horrible, evil looking bike. Whereas the PC looked regal, parked under the lights, this thing looked squatty and base. Itty bitty pad for a seat, forward controls, 200 MPH speedo...The kid told me he's managed 180 on it. I cannot imagine why.) Bikes so pretty that I couldn't stop looking at my reflection as I passed store windows. Dirt bikes, dual purpose... I have never ridden anything I like as well as the PC. On this list, I read about people going on to STs and BMWs.. Some wanting greater range, others more power... Well.. I understand, to a degree. The PC could use a few more miles of range, and I can see wanting a few more ergs of power... But... The PC is _such_ a great general purpose ride. Can I keep up with the Sportbikes on the twisties? Not really. Go as far as the Wingers between fill ups? Not at all. Nor can I carry all that I would need for a vacation, as well as a passenger. But, with very few compromises... I'll get there. I may be last into the lot, but I'll get there. No matter what the conditions. I like that. Just my two cents. Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roelke" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings! Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:13:36 -0800 Importance: Normal As a newbie to the mail list I just wanted to say "hi" to everyone. My name is Steve Roelke and I live in Anaheim, Ca. I bought my first bike, a 1996 PC800 with 12k miles on it, in March, 1999. It is a bright, mid-life crisis red (not much of a mid-life crisis I guess, its not like I bought a Harley or something). The only modification so far is a $3.00 digital clock (pretty tame even for the PC800, I guess). I've put about 8k miles on it so far, mostly commuting up and down the 55 freeway. I have done a few, short, day rides and a 5 day trip up to Crater Lake in Oregon with a friend (great ride). I love this bike. Three things really sold me on it: 1-A picture. My first reaction was: Wow! Look at all that chrome I DONT'T have to polish! (I'm ex-Navy, so I've had all the polishing I want for one life-time. Don't get me wrong, I keep it bright and shiny but it doesn't take all day); 2-The trunk. 3-The review by Motorcycle Online (http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mchonda/pc800.html). Except for one weekend of dirt-bike riding about two years ago, I had never driven or owned a motorcycle. I took a riding class when I first got the bike which helped immensely. I am looking forward to participating in the mail-list and perhaps meeting some of you in the future. --Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:37:03 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Somewhat PC related..it's a motorcycle and you can't see the e... To: E-mile@zonnet.nl CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have some severe doubts as to the roadability of that bike. My biggest concern is with the aero. Their claims for speed and acceleration are all Dyno related. I doubt that anyone's ever wrung that thing out on the track. (Expensive prototype would be one limitation, I suppose.) If and when they do.. My worry would be the damned thing lifting off like an F18 Hornet. They have no groundeffects on it. No wing or winglets to force the airflow to force the _bike_ onto the ground. At lesser speeds and acceleration curves than they claim, _cars_ have trouble with lift off. Cars are much heavier and have more innate drag to play with, more mass to use as a control. And _they_ have to use aero to keep them on the ground. Seems to me that they should get this thing into a wind tunnel and sculpt a nice airfoil shape for it. Something that woould lower the center of mass and force the airflow around it in a non lifting pattern. Also.. Who in the name of God could control accleration like that? What tires would keep it on the road? And.. What's the range? I cannot see it carrying enough fuel for more than a few miles. Still.. Just to scare the living hell out of the squids out there... I would love to see it run on the pro circuit. For that matter, I would love to hear what sort of whine that thing makes when it's lit off. Makes my old plan to drop a cruise missile engine into a VW seem almost sane... And it certainly trumps those folks at Kannon cycles with their Ford 350 HO powered bikes. Yowza! Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 20 Dec 1999 04:17:54 -0600 (CST) by mail.zonnet.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FN1B9I02.NL7; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:17:42 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:15:28 +0100 From: Emile Nossin Subject: Re: PC800: The Dark Side To: KGray96057@aol.com, PC800 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >... But... The PC is _such_ a great general purpose ride. Yep.. a lot of bike for the buck also... >Can I keep up with the Sportbikes on the twisties? Not really. >Go as far as the Wingers between fill ups? Not at all. >Nor can I carry all that I would need for a vacation, as well as a passenger. That's a load of ####. If there's one bike that handles superb in the twisties, it's the PC. I've outraced XZR's, VFR's and the like's in the twisties on the PC. Go as far as Wingers, you sure can. The Wing not only has a bigger tank, it also has considerably worse mileage which makes the range about similar to the PC. The Wing isn't that good for long distances regarding speed or range. A ST is, but that's another list... And concerning the bagage, a PC with 50 liter Givi has more bagage hold volume than a 1200LT. So if those previous points were your concern, you have not explored the possibilities of your PC well enough yet IMHO. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:20:26 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings! To: steveroelke@earthlink.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Welcome Steve it's nice to have you aboard. There's a lot more accessories you can add to your Pacific Coast now that you have sprung for the $3.00 clock, so save your money:-) Oh by the way, there is one rule on the list you should be aware of that is in effect from the end of November until about the middle of April. Pacific Coast riders in areas of the world with good riding weather can't share their riding experiences with us on the list because it drives those of us in the northeastern part of the continent CRAZY! Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" steveroelke@earthlink.net writes: >As a newbie to the mail list I just wanted to say "hi" to >everyone. My name >is Steve Roelke and I live in Anaheim, Ca. I bought my first >bike, a 1996 >PC800 with 12k miles on it, in March, 1999. It is a bright, >mid-life crisis >red (not much of a mid-life crisis I guess, its not like I bought >a Harley >or something). The only modification so far is a $3.00 digital >clock >(pretty tame even for the PC800, I guess). I've put about 8k >miles on it so >far, mostly commuting up and down the 55 freeway. I have done a >few, short, >day rides and a 5 day trip up to Crater Lake in Oregon with a >friend (great >ride). > >I love this bike. Three things really sold me on it: 1-A >picture. My >first reaction was: Wow! Look at all that chrome I DONT'T have >to polish! >(I'm ex-Navy, so I've had all the polishing I want for one >life-time. Don't >get me wrong, I keep it bright and shiny but it doesn't take all >day); 2-The >trunk. 3-The review by Motorcycle Online >(http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mchonda/pc800.html). Except for one >weekend >of dirt-bike riding about two years ago, I had never driven or >owned a >motorcycle. I took a riding class when I first got the bike which >helped >immensely. > >I am looking forward to participating in the mail-list and perhaps >meeting >some of you in the future. > >--Steve > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Y2K URL? The URL for the current month's archive is: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9912/ I'm wondering what it will become on January 1, 2000? http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/200001/ or http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/0001/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:37:29 -0500 (EST) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 front fender follies cont. "Randy Ashurst" writes: > I drained the forks and flushed several times with mineral spirits. > dried them for a few days. Then used PJ1 15W fork oil filled to 5.5 > inches from the top. Put back in the progressive suspension fork > springs with no spacer. Has about an inch of preload. Honda specifies 375 cc for the PC forks, which works out to about 6.5 inches from the top with the forks fully compressed. When I replaced my fork oil last spring, I overfilled them slightly, to 160mm from top (about 6.3"), so your 5.5 inches may be a little much (or not). When I tried 15 wt oil in the forks of my Hawk, the ride was too harsh. Unless you're really big, the combination of stiffer springs, more preload, and a larger volume of heavier oil may yield a very harsh ride. On the other hand, you can never tell until you get it back together and give it a try. I have two rules of thumb for front suspension settings: 1. Static sag (the distance the front suspension compresses from full extension under the load of rider and bike) should be approximately 1/3 of suspension travel. On a PC this works out to 1.6" +- 0.1". (The figure of 5.7" travel in the manual is optimistic). To measure static sag, strap a nylon zip tie around one of the fork legs and push it against the dust seal while the bike is on the side stand. Then, slowly let your full weight down onto the bike until both feet are off the ground (a spotter helps). Put it back on the center stand, and measure the distance between the zip tie and the fork seal. 2. The spring rate is appropriate if you get the desired sag when the top of the spring (and spacer, if there is use one) is flush with the top of the fork tube, at full extension, before assembly. If the spring needs more preload than to yield the desired static sag, it's too soft. Additional preload doesn't stiffen the spring, just increases the ride height. The too-soft spring will still bottom too easily, especially under braking. Extra oil helps, because it reduces the size of the air cavity, so you get more of an "air spring" effect as the forks compress. Too much oil can lead to a harsh ride and/or blown seals. The rub with this experimentalist approach is that you may have to disassemble/reassemble the forks several times to get it right. I've got 1.6" static sag with stock springs and 1/2" spacers. It's pretty good, but I may add a little more oil, possibly some 15 wt, to bring the oil level up to 6" from top. However, doing so requires a partial tear down, and I'm not motivated enough at the moment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:27:08 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: "'KGray96057@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Somewhat PC related..it's a motorcycle and you can 't see the engine thru the fairing.. Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:27:05 +0100 >I have some severe doubts as to the roadability of that bike. My biggest >concern is with the aero. My worry would be the damned thing lifting off >like an F18 Hornet. They have no groundeffects on it. No wing or winglets >to force the airflow to force the _bike_ onto the ground. I don't think a bike has the same lift off problems as a car. They mounted the rear wheel very much backwards to counter wheelies (they did that on the R1 as well). Furthermore the wings on a car are not so much to prevent lift off but mainly to have enough traction for tight high speed corners. In fact the downforce is so high it is enough to get a F1 car to drive against the ceiling of a tunnel at a speed of 130 km/h (or so, might be 160.. not sure). A bike has an entire different shape compared to a car. The car's bottom plate can start acting as a wing at high speeds, but a bike hardly has any horizontal profile. Have you ever seen a Grand Prix bike with spoilers ? Even the Hayabusha and Blackbird don't have wings, nor does the ecomobile (340 km/h). It doesn't want to lift of like a car and wings are useless to get more drag in a corner because of the lean angle. I think this bike would do fine on a runway or desert-flat as long as the rider is chained to the handlebars and as long as he is looney enough to ride at top speed. But still mostly guts-limited I think as long as the geometry is stable enough... >Cars are much heavier and >have more innate drag to play with, more mass to use as a control. And _they_ >have to use aero to keep them on the ground. Seems to me that they should get >this thing into a wind tunnel and sculpt a nice airfoil shape for it. >Something that woould lower the center of mass and force the airflow around >it in a non lifting pattern. Motorcycle > no horizontal profile > no wing / airfoil > no lift Rearwheel bridge has long arm > decreases "wheelie torque moment" > no use for lower mass center > no lift More mass to use as a control ? The more the mass, the lesser / harder the control I think... Care for some counter arguments ? >Also.. Who in the name of God could control accleration like that? What tires >would keep it on the road? Must be like getting 2 miles per tire or so... but hell, if you can afford that bike.. >And.. What's the range? I cannot see it carrying enough fuel for more than a >few miles. But you'd cover those few miles in a few seconds... fuel burn per *hour* can't be that bad....compared to other jets.... Life is all about priorities... who cares about fuel costs if you can afford such a bike.. >For that matter, I would love to hear what sort of whine that thing makes >when it's lit off. YEAH !! Huhuh kewl... huhuh ....kewl...... : ))) ..afterburner on...kewl..... Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:59:41 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . Listers: I've received about 50 copies of this particular note over the past couple of days. I've notified Lee about it. Is anyone else experiencing this phenomenon? It's driving me batty. Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 ---------------------- Forwarded by Doug Wilkerson/Birmingham/IBM on 12/20/99 06:57 PM --------------------------- "Lee Barker" @hpc.uh.edu on 12/19/99 09:38:04 AM Sent by: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Bob Broeking" , cc: Subject: Re: PC800: BMW Open House Since I > had all of my Honda stickers removed, many were trying to figure out what > kind of bike it was.... :-) Bob Sounds to me, Bob, like you are dang near desperately in need of a Body by Tupperware decal. I have just six left... $8 for one, $12 for two, $20 for four. When they're gone, they're gone. Lee Barker 95 "Secondo" BBT > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:01:37 -0500 To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 6:59 PM -0600 12/20/99, dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: >Listers: > > >I've received about 50 copies of this particular note over the past couple >of days. I've notified Lee about it. Is anyone else experiencing this >phenomenon? > >Doug Wilkerson >.....................................................................=20 >................................ > >IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Geez Doug..... I only got the one message. It sounds like one of=20 the mail servers at your site might be "manufacturing" this=20 "digital" message, and you need to find a "solution" . Do you know=20 anyone who has experience with Digital Manufacturing Solutions? hee hee hee.... Oh, alright.....I'm sorry....It's just that I can't ride anymore for=20 the year and so I have way too much free time on my hands to think=20 these things up!!!!!1 Ride safe... fsl -) *** Top 10 Reasons to Procrastinate *** 1. (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) =46rancois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda =20 HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: Fw: PC800: rolling flat Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:45:49 -0800 > I plumped up the baloney at work this morning--the privilege of having a > thrumpy compressor--and what little hair I have was blown back by a blast of > tired air coming from a hole, mid-tread, about the caliber of a six penny > nail. > > I took the tire to a local tire shop and asked that they just insert a plug > from the outside. I had inquired of them some time ago about mounting some > tires and they had declined. > > When I arrived back at 1pm, they were just airing it up. They had > dismounted it and patched it from the inside. They took pains to explain to > me that the speed rating of the tire was now null and void. I assured them > it was going to get the occasional winter 10 mile trip and that I would > replace it by spring. > > I headed back down the pike 10 miles and installed the tire and rode back to > work, leaving the truck for evening retrieval. > > In the course of the transfer I lost the barrel that connects the rear brake > shaft to the arm. I rode home sans shoebrakes, pucking when cessation of > forward motion was desired. > > I measured the necessary apertures and insertia and milled by golly my own, > shining up the end with rubbing compound. No, not out of wood, silly, out > of ahrn. It looks and works fine. > > So the black bike, which can find dust in the clean room in a Silicon Valley > lab, is spending the night in a cabinet shop. I am thankful there is not a > meter on the static electricity in the air there. > > Thanks for all your help on the tire. Be assured I will replace the tire > before I get serious about riding, and before I opt to ride in front of you. > > Lee Barker > "Secondo" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:38:46 EST Subject: Re: PC800: The Dark Side To: E-mile@zonnet.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Not explored the PC to it's limits, eh? I find myself hoping that you're right. 'Cause that means, as I put more miles on it, and get more experience under my belt, things are only going to get more interesting.... Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:55:41 -0800 Listers-- In the Dec. 6 New Yorker, p. 96: Your Mail Has Vanished, by Michael Specter. It explains some of the phenomenology of email but not our particular strain. I'd like to think my prose is deathless, but it sounds like Doug could change all that. Lee ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . > > > > Listers: > > > I've received about 50 copies of this particular note over the past couple > of days. I've notified Lee about it. Is anyone else experiencing this > phenomenon? > > > It's driving me batty. > > Doug Wilkerson > ............................................................................ ......................... > > IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 > > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Doug Wilkerson/Birmingham/IBM on > 12/20/99 06:57 PM --------------------------- > > "Lee Barker" @hpc.uh.edu on 12/19/99 09:38:04 AM > > Sent by: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > > To: "Bob Broeking" , > cc: > Subject: Re: PC800: BMW Open House > > > > > Since I > > had all of my Honda stickers removed, many were trying to figure out what > > kind of bike it was.... :-) Bob > > Sounds to me, Bob, like you are dang near desperately in need of a > > Body by Tupperware > > decal. I have just six left... > > $8 for one, $12 for two, $20 for four. > > When they're gone, they're gone. > > Lee Barker > 95 "Secondo" BBT > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:00:57 -0500 From: Richard Stafford To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Back On The List Hi Folks, I'm back on the list and will be as long as I can find time to do this. Take Care, Dick Stafford 1990 PC 102,000 mi. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:05:39 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:06:17 -0600 It sounds like you ISP is sending the same mail over and over. Try going to mailstart.com and looking at your mail. You can then delete what you don't want, especially the repeater, and then go back to your regular mail program and see if the bad one isn't gone. Worked for me twice. I have since changed ISP's. :-) Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 6:59 PM Subject: Re: PC800: all these freakin' messages . . > I've received about 50 copies of this particular note over the past couple > of days. I've notified Lee about it. Is anyone else experiencing this > phenomenon? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael" To: Subject: PC800: Want to buy pc800 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:49:39 -0600 I am looking for a pc800 to buy, but I am not able to find a white/gray. = If anyone can help, please email me at mstew@bellsouth.net.. Thanks again for all your help...... Michael Stewart 334-653-3633 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:52:56 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Michael" , Subject: Re: PC800: Want to buy pc800 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:52:29 -0600 I just now went to Traderonline.com and found an 89. Here is the add and = you should check traderonline often. Us PC800, Pacific Coast, and PC 800 = for your search. 1989 HONDA PC 800 lots of bike, little money $3,500 $78/mo. DLR., = (205)-951-0766.Location: Birmingham, AL Good luck in your search.=20 Steve Wilson Ruston LA. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael=20 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu=20 Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:49 PM Subject: PC800: Want to buy pc800 I am looking for a pc800 to buy, but I am not able to find a = white/gray.=20 If anyone can help, please email me at mstew@bellsouth.net.. =20 Thanks again for all your help...... =20 Michael Stewart 334-653-3633 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:35:23 EST Subject: Re: PC800: Russell Seats To: dickie@bealenet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi All, and Merry Christmas! I am giving some serious thought to the purchase of a Russell seat. Except for the way that they look, I am starting to think that they are possibly the best seat for me and my kind of riding. But before I buy one I would like to know if anyone on the list has one on their bike(s) and if so how well do they like it. I am impressed with their guarantee too: if you cannot ride all day long in a Russell seat in comfort, send it back for a 100% refund. Dont think you can beat that. Anyway, if you DO have one, what kind of options did you get and would you buy another and if so would you get the same options. Thanks in advance Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:19:35 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: The Dark Side From: "Chuck Wildman" To: pc800 Mailing list > ----Emile wrote ------ > And concerning the bagage, a PC with 50 liter Givi has more > bagage hold volume than a 1200LT. Yea, but you don't have an electrically refrigerated cold box option in that Givi 50 liter truck box like the BMW K1200 LT ;-) Besides, you really don't need all that stuff --- traveling lighter is more challenging. If you really need all that stuff; buy a trailer then you can take the lawn chairs and ice chest and even 'fido' the dog .... (now the wing is looking more attractive). =8-O -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: PC800: Fwd: XMAS fun To: PC800 --0-1714636915-945804631=:12140 Note: forwarded message attached. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com --0-1714636915-945804631=:12140 X-Apparently-To: rogerries@yahoo.com via web604.mail.yahoo.com X-Track2: 2 X-Track: -40 by mta106.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 19:10:47 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:08:58 -0600 From: Tom Catron To: Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: XMAS fun ST1100 Owners Club http://www.aprilia.com/flaszone/ita/intro.htm --0-1714636915-945804631=:12140-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:06:06 -0400 To: "Roelke" , From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings! Hello from Halifax, Steve, and welcome to the group. I run the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ it's for people to store their maint and repair records for their own use, and for sharing that info with other PC riders. It would be great to have your bike's purchase, maintenance and repair data in the system, since the more bikes are there, the more useful the database is. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@dc-cycles.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: DC PC Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:55:19 PST HMMMM... this might work: Mom can take her usual spot on back and I could put (really stuff) the 2 year old in the PC's trunk (if I split her in half) and the 5 year old can ride on the "gas tank"!!! But then again maybe this isn't such a good idea, I might get charged with child abuse. Anybody have a sidehack for a Honda PC? >From: rocheux@juno.com >To: dhallis@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: DC PC >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:41:21 -0500 > >Come on Doug, one kid toa saddlebag! Or get a sidehack. >Rocky > >On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:12:21 PST "Doug Allis" >writes: > > Unfortunately I need a couple of weeks notice to get babysitter! > > Otherwise > > my wife gets annoyed that she can't come. Or she threatens to leave > > me with > > the kids! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Re: DC PC To: Doug Allis , PC800 --- Doug Allis