********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMT4GUKU; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 04:26:57 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:25:26 -0400 Subject: PC800: Ride date correction Ladies and germs, I referred to our ride as a Sunday ride--even invited Stan to come from Grafton WV on Saturday to ride with us Sunday. THIS IS A SATURDAY RIDE. I am sorry. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMT438PR; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 04:37:32 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:32:40 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Safety Strip Feel free to post photos by sending them to hondapacificcoast@egroups.com after joining by going to http://www.egroups.com/group/hondapacificcoast Rocky in VA On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:11:22 EDT W7KJD@aol.com writes: > Group -- > > It appears that the image wasn't able to be displayed over the list > -- here's > the Website coordinate. > > http://members.aol.com/w7kjd/safety.jpg > > Gordon Creed > 96 PC800 > Washington, DC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Need pic of naked PC Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:18:48 -0700 Yes, those worked much better. Thanks a bunch. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . >Sorry Will, typo there. I couldn't copy and paste the URL becaused >it was in a frame so I typed the URL but forgot a folder. These will work: > >http://members.tripod.com/pc800/images/pc80009.jpg >http://members.tripod.com/pc800/images/pc80012.jpg > >Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Where to Order Clearview Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:53:36 -0700 Try Sport Touring Accessories at: http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/ Follow the links on super great deals Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Thomason To: PC800-List Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: PC800: Where to Order Clearview =20 =20 I need a number or web site for ordering a Clearview wind shield. =20 TIA _______________ Dallas Thomason -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Locks Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:07:49 -0700 I have a full face helmet and just carry it with me, my XXL will not fit = in the trunk. But if I wanted to lock it on the bike, I thought about = just using a cable lock and locking it to the passenger seat running the = cable lock through the passenger grab rails and helmet. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Thomason =20 =20 My, just purchased PC800, is in the shop for a complete physical and = MD inspection. I should have it back by Saturday. IN the mean time. = What do you folks do about helmet locks. I know the trunk is available, = but when loaded for an extended trip what do you do. Has anybody come = up with a helmet lock/=20 _______________ what=20 do you do.  Has anybody come up with a helmet lock/ =
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" , "Pan Euro" Subject: Re: PC800: Don't start Pretty Park.exe ! [off topic] Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:12:26 -0700 I also received the same email with the attachment. Fortunately, my virus scanner picked it up and I deleted it without opening it up. I didn't recognized the senders name, but with my memory that's not unusual. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 ; Pan Euro Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 7:28 PM Subject: PC800: Don't start Pretty Park.exe ! [off topic] >Guys, I just removed a virus / worm from my pc I had received >from a fellow lister. I scanned the file and it appeared clean >but a minute later I started getting rejected messages indicating >to me that the program just send itself to my entire adress book. >The file isn't like happy.exe, this one is also a dangerous worm. >If you receive it, don't open it, just delete it. Removal has to be >done manually, I got the info from http://www.mcafee.com . That's >also where I got the rest of the info on this worm. Don't forward >this, it's not a chainletter. It's just FYI. This is from the mcAfee site: > >>>> >W32/Pretty.Worm is a worm that was originally discovered in France on 5/26/99. On 9/28/99 AVERT upgraded its risk assessment from >low to MEDIUM-ON WATCH, due to a significant increase in apparent prevalence. >W32/Pretty.Worm attempts to replicate itself by sending copies of itself to other computers as an email attachment. The attachment >is typically an executable file called Pretty Park.exe. When run, the program will display a "3D Pipes" screen saver. It will then >copy itself to FILES32.VXD in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM folder, and will alter the system registry in such a way that the new FILES32.VXD >will run during the execution of any .exe file. Every thirty minutes, it will try to email itself to all email addresses stored in >the internet address book. Finally, it will attempt to connect to an IRC server and join a pre-determined IRC channel in such a way >that the worm's author could use the IRC connection to retrieve such information as the computer name, registered owner, registered >organization, system root path, and Dial Up Networking username and passwords. >>> > >Greetings and apologies to anyone who just received >this file from me, > >Emile >http://fly.to/emile >(getting another virus scanner ASAP) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:34:42 EDT Subject: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Your figuring is correct. The bike is pushing more air aside. The Clearview protects the rider by placing a giant hunk of plastic between the rider and the on coming air. The Rifle system is more aerodynamic, that's why it requires two sections, and may actually increase your gas mileage because it penetrates the air with less resistance than your body or the original Honda Shield. I have a 20" Rifle on my PC. My gas mileage is 45 MPG at around 75 MPH (5500 RPM) . Bernie 94 PC 57K Overland Park, KS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cyclenby@aol.com for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:50:52 EDT Subject: PC800: Reply To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl Well, it's not all that exciting of a story. I had the ST1100 about two years and really loved that bike. I used it everyday to drive to work straight I-95 shot with no fun or joy riding because of BA classes at night and too much work. So I decided to sell it because I thought I was not using it for the pleasure it was intented (besides I could use money to complete school) So, now school is done got my degree, told work I only do 50 hours and that's all they get, bought this PC800 and joy ride - not too work but weekends and fun days trips. It may not get the thousands of miles on it the ST did but they will be quality miles. Safe riding from Cyclenby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cyclenby@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:53:05 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Ride date correction To: rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sorry I will be in office Sat to get ready for Sunday flight - maybe next time. Plus I need those tires before I travel more than local. R/Cyclenby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:09:39 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/30/99 7:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time, Emile@Cybercomm.nl writes: > I had a set on my car a few years ago... I installed them one evening... the > next morning the stem was red... and the tire was FLAT! Sorry, but that is out of a sitcom! LOL Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMUHJE4M; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:15:00 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:13:18 -0400 Subject: PC800: PC 4 Sale The Washington Post Oct 1 99. For Sale Honda PC800 Red Garaged 18,000 miles. Exc Cond $4300. Call 301-393-8661* Also 47 Indian Chief. 400 miles since total restoration. Exquisite show winner. Runs perfectly. $21,000 and worth every penny. 703-757-2282. Don't ask me anything about these bikes, I know no more than what is in the ads I copied here. Also the Chief is probably worth a thousand or 2 or 3 more than he asks if it is an exquisite show winner. Rocky ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:22:25 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/30/99 11:02:10 PM Central Daylight Time, fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: > If you remove > one of these you will see the small metal protrusion that descends > into the valve stem. Only when this protrusion is pushed down will it > be possible for air to enter, or exit, the tire. FWIW This animal is known as a schreader valve (not sure of the spelling and it is not in my Websters) Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A86A72B00E8; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:26:18 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Dallas Thomason" Cc: "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Locks Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:24:23 -0400 I bought a cheap helmet locak that can clamp to a bar.... I mounted mine on the front crash bar cover with no modifications.... = the bottom of the cover is open and it works great! The helmet hangs = downward... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dale=20 To: Dallas Thomason=20 Cc: PC800-List=20 Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:00 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Locks the bike comes with a cable helmet lock=20 what happened to yours=20 I would call the previous owner or the shop and find out=20 Dallas Thomason wrote:=20 My, just purchased PC800, is in the shop for a complete physical and = MD inspection. I should have it back by Saturday. IN the mean time. = What do you folks do about helmet locks. I know the trunk is available, = but when loaded for an extended trip what do you do. Has anybody come = up with a helmet lock/_______________=20 Dallas Thomason=20 1989, PC800=20 Silver Spring, MD --=20 Dale Hurley=20 "Hate is an Emotion, Not a Crime." - Me=20 =20 what do=20 you do.  Has anybody come up with a helmet lock/_______________
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: windshield clarity problems philip jansen writes: > The windshield of my PC800 1996 is not as clear as it was when I > purchased the motorcycle new in 1997. I tried to clean it with Meguiar's, > Mirror Glaze Clear Plastic Polish, but too not avail. If one look very > closely, using a 20x-magnifier glass, you can see what looks likes > minute bubbles or "spots". I wonder if this is result of being exposed > to the "elements". Does anyone have the same experience and can it be > salvaged by using a special polishing liquid?. Is the "clearview" > windshield a accetable substitute ? Assuming I get positive feedback, > where can I purchase those windshields??. Your input is highly appreciated. For reasons unknown, Honda chose to coat both sides of their PC windscreens. The coating is notoriously unreliable, and is in fact quite soluble in isopropyl alcohol, and somewhat soluble even in Windex. Polishing is almost impossible. Stripping the coatings off is difficult, and tends to leave a windscreen that looks even worse. Clearview seems to be the screen of choice at this time, although some folks like Rifle. Sport Touring Accessories has a good reputation as a mail order outfit, and their shipping charges (flat rate, $4) are hard to beat. See: http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:40:43 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: COlumbus Coasters Hi, this message is aimed at the Pacific Coasters in the Columbus, Ohio area. Sorry for posting to the list but I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anyone. We've been talking about a ride to meet one another. Mike Whited is proposing a ride on Oct 30 to Malta, Ohio. Chris Barrett is proposing a ride on north on Route 3 at unspecified time-space coordinates. MEanwhile, since I can't wait until Oct 30 (although I'm looking forward to it also) I thought I would suggest the following: There is a monthly ride one hte second Wednesday night that leaves from Honda Northwest. I will have the get the time from them. Anyway, they go out, ride around, stop for dinner somwhere. I haven't been on it, but have been meaning to go. The route and dinner place change evidently, but it's a convenient deal because somebody else already set it up. :-) I propose that any of us who feel like it go to the next one, which is Oct 13. I'll post the time and directions to Honda NW when I find out. (It's near Fishinger and 270, on the west side) Note that anybody is welcome, you don't have to have a PC or even a Honda. Mike and Chris- when you plan the details of your rides, be sure to post them to the list because people from Michigan, Kentucky, and West VA were also interested. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Initial maintenance on '89 "ed appler" writes: > The air filter on the bike is incredibly dirty. Maybe a strong factor > in the bike flooding?? Takes Honda 4 days to get another one in. > Bummer. Do you have to re-jet the carbs if you use K & N filter? SSD: I put on a K&N 2 weeks ago. Haven't noticed any need to rejet, as (compared to my Hawk) PC's run a little richer than most Honda's anyway. Gas mileage improved by about 10% over a clean stock filter. > I'm changing plugs, flushing and changing coolant, changing oil and > filter. Anything I'm forgetting or need to know about? Fork seals? > Brake fluid? SSD: If it's an '89, the fork seals may need replacing, although if they aren't leaking, leave well enough alone. Definitely replace the brake and clutch hydraulic fluids (DOT-3) and be *very* careful not to spill any on the bodywork. You've got to pull a fair amount of bodywork to do the maintenance you want to do anyway, so that's a good time. I like to change the hydraulic fluid at the start of each riding season, since the stuff absorbs moisture from the atmosphere. I put in fresh fluid in March, and I noticed yesterday that the fluid in the clutch reservoir has already started turning yellow, which means it's absorbed moisture. You might want to check the carb sync. Tighten up the band clamps on the carbs. Pull the vacuum fuel shutoff valve (attached to the back of the airbox) and check that the four screws that hold it together are tight. Pull the rear wheel and clean/lube the spline with black molybdenum grease. None of these maintenance tasks requires special tools or skills, and all are fairly easy to do if you already have the side panels and shelter off the bike. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:53:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Fw: PC800: Helmet Locks To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I was at Sport Touring Accessories in North Carolina a couple of weekends ago and Rob Pemble showed me a new configuration of these locks that he will be making available shortly. The locks pop open when unlocked and the key is not needed to relock them, I guess the current ones he has really require two hands to use. It is the same one lock on each side of the license plate set up and the connecting bracket will be powder coated black. He says he can sell it for $39.95 because he is getting the locks directly from Taiwan. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" jrandall@tricon.net writes: >I have been using a cable lock thru the helmet and seat grab rail >when the trunks are full. However, look on this page for the dual >helmet locks which replace the license plate bracket... >http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/st1100.htm > >Jim Randall > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dallas Thomason >To: PC800-List >Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 9:09 PM >Subject: PC800: Helmet Locks > > >My, just purchased PC800, is in the shop for a complete physical >and MD inspection. I should have it back by Saturday. IN the >mean time. What do you folks do about helmet locks. I know the >trunk is available, but when loaded for an extended trip what do >you do. Has anybody come up with a helmet lock/ >_______________ >Dallas Thomason >1989, PC800 >Silver Spring, MD > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:36:50 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Emile Nossin" CC: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage >>> I've seen those, and just can't bring myself to install a device that >>>keeps my tire valves open (so it can measure the pressure). >>> Chris Norloff >>From: Bill Jarrells >>That is why I don't have them. >>Bill > >From: "Emile Nossin" >That's a pretty unlogical statement. Instead of this little valve, there's >another valve screwed on top of it to keep it closed. Even better than >the regular valve, since this valve tells you he's been leaking or not. >I really can't figure out the logic behind your idea. The gauge is stopping >the air from getting out instead of the original valve......what's the >problem ? I don't get, please explain.... Existing tire valves, with valve caps, are reliable and trustworthy. Adding a device on top of the valve requires this second device to be reliable, and introduces another two leak points - the new device and the seal between the new device and the existing tire valve. I tried a set of these pressure-monitoring caps and they did not indicate when the pressure went down. So they didn't work, and they introduced more failure modes. I don't doubt that there are some very good, reliable, tire pressure monitoring systems available. I haven't seen them, and I don't consider them to be worth much effort to install on any of my vehicles. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:55:53 +0200 >Only when this protrusion is pushed down will it >be possible for air to enter, or exit, the tire. >the device is air tight, but it is made of plastic, and >it can break or crack. >fsl Well I know what a tire valve is, I just figured that if it was a strong, reliable device that was put on it, it wouldn't matter if it was the valve or the device holding in the air. Apperently it's not strong, nor reliable, so the issue is not the principle of putting a device on top of the valve that keeps it open, the issue is the device's reliability. I liked the idea of the thing. I wasn't sure what it looked like or wat it was made off, now I know it's not a small steel device but a long plastic one. That explains the doubts people have, they just couldn't clearify why, as I could apperently not make clear why I had doubts about their statements. Now I know, thanks, Emile >>>>>>>> Once it breaks or cracks, the air will exit from the tire since this device is forcing the protrusion down into the valve stem. I'm not sure if this makes any sense. Let me know if it doesn't and I'll take another crack at it. bye for now.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:14:35 -0300 To: "ed appler" , "Pacific Coast owners" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Initial maintenance on '89 Ed: If you go to the big PC Maint and Repair page at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and select Subsystem: Maintenance you'll get a report of all of the kinds of maintenance that people do on their bikes and a feel for how often. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:26:24 +0200 >From: >The Rifle system is more aerodynamic, that's why it >requires two sections, and may actually increase your gas mileage If there's one barndoor screen availiable for the PC, it's the Rifle IMHO. It's not that much different than the Honda or clearview in it's aerodynamic shape. The Rifle needs the lower part because the screen itself is simpler and not curving itself. The Clearview and tall Honda curve themselves backwards, the Rifle needs the lower section to do that. This is probably because it's made of another material (I think..). The upper frontal area is formed by the screen i.o. the rider. Both don't do a lot of good to aerodynamics. The cw values on motorcycles are worse than on any other vehicle (except the hayabusa etc..), I don't think the mileage will be that much different. If anything it will probably be worse, especially with the Rifle. The Clearview becomes smaller on top, like the rider, the Rifle doesn't. The Clearview looks like the fastest of them all.... http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/willedw.html (Clearview) http://www.rifle.com/stores/showdetl.cfm?&DID=9&Product_ID=907&CATID=9 (Rifle) Emile http://fly.to/emile >>>>>>>>>> because it penetrates the air with less resistance than your body or the original Honda Shield. I have a 20" Rifle on my PC. My gas mileage is 45 MPG at around 75 MPH (5500 RPM) . Bernie 94 PC 57K Overland Park, KS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:36:11 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: COlumbus Coasters To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >Mike and Chris- when you plan the details of your rides, be sure >to post >them to the list because people from Michigan, Kentucky, and West >VA were >also interested. Hey, don't forget New York State people! The Yankee Smuggler and I are desperate for a friendly group ride that doesn't have their hand out for money. If you make it a Saturday ride (can even spill over to Sunday morning) it would fit into my weekend travel planning perfectly (at least at this point in time). Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:02:30 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: "Thomas Ongstad" , "Steve Raml" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Where to Order Clearview Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:44:02 -0500 Only if the "film" hasn't been removed off of it. If the "film" has been removed, it's yours. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,210 miles Clearview clear +5 (my second one...) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Ongstad To: Steve Raml Cc: Dallas@US.net ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 7:55 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Where to Order Clearview >Steve Raml wrote: >> >> Clearview: 1-800-798-6089 >> >> Just installed the +3 smoked. Pretty good, but I should have went higher. >> >> Steve > >Steve, > >Call 'em back. I have heard they are very nice about if you want to >replace with another shield. > >Can't hurt. > >Thomas >-- >93SE (Teal, ya hunh) >95Hannigan > >97Pacific Coast (oh baby) >98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) >GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1) with SMTP id 2429028; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:38:40 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" , "philip jansen" Subject: Re: PC800: windshield clarity problems Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:16:37 -0400 Just curious....where do you ride? Is it possible you have been "sand-blasted?" Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- From: philip jansen To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Sent: Thursday, 30 September 1999 18:18 Subject: PC800: windshield clarity problems The windshield of my PC800 1996 is not as clear as it was when I purchased the motorcycle new in 1997. I tried to clean it with Meguiar's, Mirror Glaze Clear Plastic Polish, but too not avail. If one look very closely, using a 20x-magnifier glass, you can see what looks likes minute bubbles or "spots". I wonder if this is result of being exposed to the "elements". Does anyone have the same experience and can it be salvaged by using a special polishing liquid?. Is the "clearview" windshield a accetable substitute ? Assuming I get positive feedback, where can I purchase those windshields??. Your input is highly appreciated. Philip Jansen -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1) with SMTP id 2429189 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:44:58 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Rifle Windshield Measurements Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:22:53 -0400 type="text/plain" I've forgotten what my measurement was on my Rifle replacement windshield when I ordered it, and can't find the paperwork. If some one could help me extrapolate it by measuring the centerline of the shield (not the lip it attaches to) and telling me whether they're "+2", "+3", etc, I'd appreciate it. All this talk of windshields, etc., has got me thinking about ordering one a bit taller. Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'PC800 Rider'" , "'anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: COlumbus Coasters Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:47:38 -0400 Hey! I'd love to have as many folks as we could get! Come one, come all!! Anyone from some of the surrounding areas (Kentucky, WV, Indiana) Interested? Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of PC800 Rider Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 7:36 AM To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COlumbus Coasters anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: >Mike and Chris- when you plan the details of your rides, be sure >to post >them to the list because people from Michigan, Kentucky, and West >VA were >also interested. Hey, don't forget New York State people! The Yankee Smuggler and I are desperate for a friendly group ride that doesn't have their hand out for money. If you make it a Saturday ride (can even spill over to Sunday morning) it would fit into my weekend travel planning perfectly (at least at this point in time). Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Kriss modulator Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:17:26 -0700 Hey, folks. I took the front part of my bike apart to change the windshield, and thought it would be a good time to install my Kriss modulator. Does anyone know where I can hook up the wire that is supposed to go to an "accessory terminal" (per their instructions). How much current does the thing need; can I just tap into some other wire? What about a fuse--does it need a separate one? If anyone has installed this unit correctly, please let me know how you did it. TIA ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group Thousand Oaks, CA (805) 370-1474 tpaxman@algcorp.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:50:38 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Initial maintenance on '89 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer >SSD: If it's an '89, the fork seals may need replacing, although if > they aren't leaking, leave well enough alone. I put the neoprene-fastened-with-velcro Noj fork guards on my bike to protect the fork tubes above the plastic fender extensions (about $15 from Dennis Kirk). > Definitely replace > the brake and clutch hydraulic fluids (DOT-3) and be *very* > careful not to spill any on the bodywork. My '90 owners manual (and the caps on the reservoirs) specify DOT-4. DOT-4 can take higher temperatures than DOT-3 so you don't want to mix them. -- Chris Norloff Virginia '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <--------- FOR SALE '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:21:30 -0300 To: "Steve Wilson" , "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" , "Bill Jarrells" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: First PC ride impression :( At 11:28 30/9/99, Steve Wilson wrote: >Said "package" >placement affects many other aspects of our lives, I'm really afraid to ask, but curiosity is killing me. Aside from affecting whether both knees can touch a motorcycle dashboard, WHAT other aspects? -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 15:51:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss modulator To: tpaxman@algcorp.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) tpaxman@algcorp.com writes: >Hey, folks. I took the front part of my bike apart to change the >windshield, and thought it would be a good time to install my Kriss >modulator. Does anyone know where I can hook up the wire that is >supposed >to go to an "accessory terminal" (per their instructions). How >much current >does the thing need; can I just tap into some other wire? What >about a >fuse--does it need a separate one? > >If anyone has installed this unit correctly, please let me know >how you did >it. > >TIA >________________________ >Todd M. Paxman >Ashworth Leininger Group >Thousand Oaks, CA >(805) 370-1474 >tpaxman@algcorp.com This was the first accessory I installed on my bike last year when I bought it and it has worked fine since then. I don't remember adding any extra fuse, if one did not come with the unit I did not add one. I grabbed power from one of the wires coming out of my fuse box on the left side of the bike behind the side panel, possibley my dash lights. I'd have to take it apart to check on which one, but any power source is ok. I tried to avoid plugging into the headlight power wire though. The wire that is supposed to connect to the horn was the real problem. I did not get the right one, but I'm not concerned. I thought I could just connect it to one of the two wires that go to the horn, at the horn, but either I can't or I just chose the wrong wire. I don't see anything happento my headlight when I blow my horn. I'm not sure any of this is helpful, but it has been over a year since I even looked at the set up and I'm not at my bike now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" To: "J. Nyffeler" , PC800 Group Subject: RE: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:55:31 -0700 Hi Jim: I have a Clearview +5 on Minerva (in case you did not remember from your visit to Phoenix earlier this year). At a steady 75 mph, I get about 48 - 50 mpg. At 85, it drops to about 45 mpg. I did not compare this with previous mileage figures because it was way too early in the break-in period (2200 miles). Too many variables to pin any mileage change on the windshield. I have noticed that whenever Ann Reid and I ride together for more than a few hundred miles, her Ghost will be getting at least 10% less from a gallon of fuel than Minerva. She has the tallest Rifle available. This has me wondering if Honda changed the calibration of the carbs on the later models. Something leaner for the EPA perhaps? The Ghost is an '89 with 57,000 miles and Minerva is a '98 with 7,000 miles. Speaking of Clearview windshields, I just completed a 1900 mile ride from Cincinnati to Phoenix on Ann Reid's newest acquisition (ride report coming soon). It is a 1990 PC with a standard height Clearview. I like that windshield! It was wide enough to keep the wind off my hands and shoulders, short enough to look over when covered with bug film or rain. I got more wind at the face level but with a Shoei RF800 and the new Koss earplug/earbud headphones, it wasn't bad at all. And it handled strong crosswinds much better than Minerva. I have discovered auto-lean! Maybe Ann would consider a swap. David E Smith Phoenix 1998 PC800 "Minerva" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:32:02 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Wilson" To: "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" , "Bill Jarrells" , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: First PC ride impression :( Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:33:41 -0500 Aspects like, who we marry, where we live, how many kids we have, how big a house we have, what car we drive, where and how often we are allowed to ride, if we take the job we want or the one she wants us to have. Need I go on, I'm getting ill. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay To: Steve Wilson ; Steven R. Zweigart ; 'PC800 Mailing List' ; Bill Jarrells Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:21 PM Subject: Re: PC800: First PC ride impression :( > At 11:28 30/9/99, Steve Wilson wrote: > >Said "package" > >placement affects many other aspects of our lives, > > I'm really afraid to ask, but curiosity is killing me. Aside from > affecting whether both knees can touch a motorcycle dashboard, WHAT other > aspects? > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:32:32 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" To: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" CC: "J. Nyffeler" , PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size "Smith, David E (AZ77)" wrote: ***** snip **** > ....... And it handled strong > crosswinds much better than Minerva. I have discovered auto-lean! > > Maybe Ann would consider a swap. > > David E Smith > Phoenix > 1998 PC800 > "Minerva" > -- Ahhh....here comes the auto-lean thing again..LOL! It was one of the features that was discontinued, along with the self cancelling turn signals and the front wheel coverings. Cost cutting you know. Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it wasn't intentional when designed. Jeffrey King (K5ING) '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:47:03 -0500 I'm reasonably certian the final correct word in full time pressure gauges for tire pressure will involve optics and electricity. So whatsa matter Betty Lise Anderson, you waiting on a grant or something? If you are taking all this time off shortly to work in the lab then here is the perfect excuse to take your PC into the lab too. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server05.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 2 Oct 1999 00:03:52 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:04:25 -0400 I wonder if anyone makes a replacement tire stem with a gauge in it? That wouldn't introduce any new failure points, would it? ]Monty[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Pressure Gage Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:21:57 -0700 Kisan already did this. A bit pricey, but it does tell you remotely what the tire pressure is in the front and rear tire, and has, I believe, a settable low pressure limit that causes a flashing light or beeper to sound if pressure drops below the limit. You should check out the writeup on this at http://www.kisan.com , as it is quite interesting from an engineering perspective. They did a lot of trick things for nonpowered pressure sensors. I wouldn't be surprized if they patented it. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 12k > ---------- > From: David Kelly > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:47 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage > > I'm reasonably certian the final correct word in full time pressure > gauges for tire pressure will involve optics and electricity. > > So whatsa matter Betty Lise Anderson, you waiting on a grant or > something? If you are taking all this time off shortly to work in the > lab then here is the perfect excuse to take your PC into the lab too. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 16:33:26 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: Crystal , PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Alaska! (no M/C content, but funny) Ok, ok, this is, admittedly, more than a little biased. I hope it does not offend anyone either. I do hope it makes you smile. Have a great weekend! **************************************************************************** Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look Michael, see what I've made..." Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused. God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a place. "What's that?" "Ah," said God. "That's Alaska, the most glorious place on Earth. There's beautiful lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite shore-line along the seas. The people from Alaska are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high-achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace." Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed, "What about balance, God? You said there would be BALANCE!" God replied, "Wait until you see the loud-mouth ba*tards I'm putting in their Legislature!" ****************************************************************************** -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:15:16 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" To: Peter Noeth CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage Ummm... I think you mean http://www.kisantech.com/ ... the other URL you gave took me to the Kisan.com/net Indian Agricultuer site. LOL! Jeffrey King '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) Peter Noeth wrote: > > Kisan already did this. A bit pricey, but it does tell you remotely what the > tire pressure is in the front and rear tire, and has, I believe, a settable low > pressure limit that causes a flashing light or beeper to sound if pressure drops > below the limit. > > You should check out the writeup on this at http://www.kisan.com , as it is > quite interesting from an engineering perspective. They did a lot of trick > things for nonpowered pressure sensors. I wouldn't be surprized if they patented > it. > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 12k > > > ---------- > > From: David Kelly > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:47 PM > > To: PC800 > > Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage > > > > I'm reasonably certian the final correct word in full time pressure > > gauges for tire pressure will involve optics and electricity. > > > > So whatsa matter Betty Lise Anderson, you waiting on a grant or > > something? If you are taking all this time off shortly to work in the > > lab then here is the perfect excuse to take your PC into the lab too. > > > > -- > > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > > ===================================================================== > > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:15:28 -0400 >>Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, >>and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to >>turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it >>wasn't intentional when designed. My '98 has autolean, minus the wheel cover. I don't think it has anything to do with the wheel cover. The PC is my first bike. Is this feature unique to the PC800, or do all bikes do it? How about similar bikes? Or just bikes that are fully faired? Just defending my coverless (ie "less prissy") PC. Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Re: Autolean Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:23:42 +0200 >>Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, >>and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to >>turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it >>wasn't intentional when designed. >Jeffrey King (K5ING) >My '98 has autolean, minus the wheel cover >Doug Wilkerson No jeff, the PC has it with or without front fairing. It's also been discovered on ST mailing list allready. I'm gonna try to see if this indeed true for the ST in 15 minutes. There's a Beaufort 8 storm from the Southwest on my easterly commute, that should give me some indication I think. This is the theory we figured out a couple of months ago: Most of the wind force is brought onto the fairing between the wheels. Picture pushing the fairing part below the tank / air filter to the left. This will cause the front wheel to turn to the left also because of it's trail. This in turn will lean the bike to the right because of induced countersteering, voila "autolean". FYI countersteering is 8% gyroscopic precesion, the rest is because of centrifugal force (like in the car, turn left and feel the car lean right..). Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 22:32:12 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > > >>Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, > >>and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to > >>turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it > >>wasn't intentional when designed. > > My '98 has autolean, minus the wheel cover. I don't think it has anything to do > with the wheel cover. The PC is my first bike. Is this feature unique to the > PC800, or do all bikes do it? How about similar bikes? Or just bikes that are > fully faired? > > Just defending my coverless (ie "less prissy") PC. > > Doug Wilkerson "Less Prissy"?? Harumph! I'd say, "more ordinary" maybe..LOL. No, not all bikes have the "auto lean" feature. I can't say for sure which ones do and which ones don't, as even the members of this list can't agree if the PC does indeed have auto lean. I know that this is the first bike I've had that reacted in cross winds like this one does. All of my other bikes have been pushed around by the wind. Not the PC, however. Jeffrey King (K5ING) '94 PC800 (the "less ordinary" Batcycle) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: Lee's bike totalled: counsel please Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:32:56 -0700 Hi friends-- I've been offline for several days...my computer broke a rib in sympathy, evidently. In that time, I got the estimate to repair my crashed '94. I had guessed it at $2000. Bottom line: parts........................................6836.59 labor..........................................968.00 TOTAL...........................................................$7814.59 Needless to say it is reasonable to assume the insurance co. (Progressive) will total the bike, whose book value according to the dealer is $4600. I would really appreciate any insights you have about this process. I have located another, identical bike in Will Edwards' back yard (figuratively speaking) for $5000 and would really like to get them to come up with that (less my deductible of course) to replace what I had. Also, if you know of any PC for sale in the Pacific Northwest, I would appreciate particulars so I could refer the adjuster to that party for validation of value. I hope the paucity of PCs for sale in our area will work to my advantage, but he/she may need more than one reference. Any help willingly received. And the busted rib and separated shoulder are responding nicely, thank you. I feel better every day. Tomorrow I spend all day learning CPR so I can be cleared to teach woodworking to weekenders later this fall. I need to go to sleep now so I will be smart tomorrow. I wouldn't want to be a dummy and have all those other students taking turns pushing on my chest. Ouch ouch ouch. Lee Barker 94 Pacific Coast 60 Cushman Eagle "And in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." Shakespeare, "As You Like It" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:55:29 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: Cc: "Mike Hilton" , "Dewane Wilson" Subject: PC800: 95 PC for sale Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:56:50 -0500 A guy here in town has a 95 PC for sale. I haven't seen it but he says it is spotless. Only thing added is the Honda backrest. I think he said 5400 miles but it could be 4500. He needs to raise funds for medical expenses for a family member. He told me he wants $4500. Kelly Blue Book list the trade in of a 24,200 mile 95PC at $3730 and a retail for the same miles of $5330. The bike has the added backrest and only 4 or 5 thousand miles. I would be glad to check it out if any one is interested. Write me back if you are interested and I will give you his name and phone number. I only wish I had the money. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMWDK3SL; Sat, 02 Oct 1999 01:44:28 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: scpcrc@listbot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: CLUELESS IN ARIZONA -- AKA: WITHOUT A VIN TO "SEE" ON Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 01:44:28 EDT H E L P: Repsond off-list, please. 1) WANTED: To be able to read Engine Serial Number which the manual (pg. 1-3) says, "The engine serial number is stamped on the right crankcase below the rear cylinder. 2) OUT OF STATE LICENSING: I took Red Cloud (Cloud Red?) in for emissions this morning. She passed. *HOORAY* Then I drove her to the veh inspection location. She did not pass. *UH, OH* MVD personnel are insisting on reading all three ID #'s. I showed them the "Vehicle Identification Number" under the front near the horn. That made them happy. By removing the two small flat gray plastic pieces below the dash instrument panel under Neill's PC Glovebox, they could read the "frame serial number." That made them happy, too. Alas, they were not happy (and neither was I... *UNDERSTATEMENT*) when they could not find/read the "Engine Serial Number." *WHIMPER* 3) UNDRESSING THE RED LADY: I removed the right air vent. The right being the brake side of the bike as opposed to the clutch side. (She said, while rapidly plugging the holes in her head to keep the few brains left from spilling onto the ground.) Then I removed the right silver crashbar cover (just for practice). Finally I removed the red side cover as described in the manual (pg. 2-4). I consulted manual pg. 9-5 entitled "Right Crankcase Cover Removal/Installation" to satisfy myself that I was, indeed, looking at the right crankcase cover. I could not find a number. How do I determine where "below the rear cylinder" is? Do I need mirrors and smoke or a human sacrifice to be able to see it? Shall I etch one on or make one with my handy dandy labelmaker? Whatchathink PC gurus? 4) I would dearly love to finish the process early tomorrow morning and get her retitled and licensed in the Land of AZ....before my 09:00 appointment for a new free battery for the Ghost. Yep, barely seven months on this battery an its dead. An exact repeat of its predecessor. *Hmmm* Think there's a message here? I did ask them to check out the electrical system when they put the battery in last Feb. and they insisted everything was perfrming perfectly. I eagerly await your help. THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Ann '89 PC-AZ Tender Ghost Tending (Battery Tender) '90 PC-AZ Red Cloud ... with a little dirt mixed in. Fri. 10.1.99 22:35 MST P.S. Red Cloud's Persona: Mid-size Clearview windshield. Sidestand keeps her from leaning very far. Rusty screws and rusty other schtuff, too. Gunky looking schtuff under fairing -- needs a good cleaning from the inside out. Kenwood radio can't be heard at speed. Muffler starting to rust away but not too loud ... yet! Maybe tomorrow? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Autolean Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:01:38 +0200 >No, not all bikes have the "auto lean" feature. I can't say for >sure which ones do and which ones don't, as even the members of >this list can't agree if the PC does indeed have auto lean. I >know that this is the first bike I've had that reacted in cross >winds like this one does. All of my other bikes have been pushed >around by the wind. Not the PC, however. >Jeffrey King (K5ING) I think all the bikes have autolean to some extend. I just took on the Beaufort 8 wind at 110 mph and the ST behaved outstanding. It definetely has autolean as well. I engaged the autopilot...err...vistacruise and it, like on the PC, clearly leaned itself automatically against the storm from the right. The PC's autolean is very noticeable because of it's big sidefairing, low CG (easy to lean), steering geometry and the fact that the bars are so high that there isn't much force holding the bars straight, so the bike is given easy oppurtunity to enforce it's stability. I think that stability is present on all bikes, necessary to make it rideable. It's only more noticeble on the PC (and ST) and probably also not noticed by everyone since most riders try to hold on to the bars as tight as possible in a X-wind, not giving the bike the chance to stabilize itself....I think. So in gusty conditions, let the bike do it's thing (it's designed to be stable after all) and make only minor corrections (same for flying BTW), according to my theory and experience that should work. In fact I mainly had to make corrections this morning not to let the ST lean too much into the wind, I was countersteering against the autolean. Happy landings, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (autolean '99 included, Y2K proof) http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'ann reid'" Subject: RE: PC800: CLUELESS IN ARIZONA -- AKA: WITHOUT A VIN TO "SEE" ON Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:33:44 +0200 >Yep, barely >seven months on this battery an its dead. An exact repeat of its >predecessor. *Hmmm* Think there's a message here? I did ask them to >check out the electrical system when they put the battery in last Feb. >and they insisted everything was perfrming perfectly. >Ann Sounds like a battery under warranty. If they said the elec. system was perfect, then they should pay for the new battery since it can't be the system, right ? Don't know about the engine number, I thought it was on top of the crankcase behind the cilinder, like the book says. Not sure though..can't check it anymore... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cyclenby@aol.com for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:34:12 EDT Subject: PC800: Long Term Friend To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu All, Now that I have found a friend in my PC800 (1990 with 24,000) I was wondering with proper maint and good fortune (avoiding the thrills and spills of "blind" motorist) -- what kind of life can I expect from this bike? And second please someone tell me about speaker covers. Is there an after-market grill that I can purchase or something not too, too, ugly to modify so I can add tunes. Choose to refrain from helmet music for fear of isolation from those "blind" drivers -- you know the types even with my 100 watt bulb swear they don't see me. Oh on the subject of tunes I recommend the Sony Rotary Controller up front, 4" speakers, and a SONY deck in one of the bags. I am wiring mine now and it provides functionality of control and less eye sore and surgery on the PC. Safe Riding to all from Cyclenby, Jim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMW9B2JY; Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:49:25 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com, lcshepp@directcon.net, david.e.smith@cas.honeywell.com Subject: PC800: "VIN"-DIE-CATE-DUD Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:49:25 EDT LOST IS FOUND: Cancel the search. I "think" I've found 'em. Only needed to remove large side panel and air vent. I took the others off just to show off. *APPLAUSE* It was sooo grimey and yucky inside, I could not see it at first ... or second ... or third. (Not to mention lookin' in wrong place. *UH, OH*) After spraying with Simple Green, especially formulated for simple-minded folks like me, and cleaning up with small brass wire brush and throw away shop towel, it magically appeared. *A VISION* The top line of "characters" (alpha-numeric) are raised (three dimensional, um er demential?) and the bottom "numbers" appear to be lightly etched. There are similarities in these codes with the VIN on the title, but they are NOT exactly the same. This is done to confuse those afflicted with senior moments ... and it worked! Boy was I confused! Thanks for all your input PKO's. (PCee Knight Owls) I just made that up. *GRINS & GIGGLES* See what too little sleep does?! Let that be a lesson to you. Ann '90 PC-AZ Red Cloud ... Actually I'm thinkin' of changing her name to "Rusty" now that I've seen her from the inside snout. *OUCH* Besides that's what folks called me when I was a (younger) child (just yesterday!). Now I'm more aluminum colored. *SHINEY SIDE UP* Well, it's better than being down!! '89 PC-AZ De-Batteried Ghost Sat. 10.2.99 6:45 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com, Emile@Cybercomm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage/Correction/Mini trip report. Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:08:21 PDT I wrote this: >I have a 40 psi on the front and the rear,< yada, yada, something else. Why is it the fingers always seem to think they know more than the brain does ? I really have a 32 psi on the front and a 40 on the rear and the rear valve stem is a right angle just like the front. Had a great trip down in the backwoods of southwestern Arkansas and southeastern Oklahoma. Lots of curvy Roads, traffic was light and the weather was perfect, jacket liner in until about noon then out it comes and switch to summer gloves. The PC ran great, of course, 55 mpg on the way down there and 50.2 on the way home. It's mostly downhill going and uphill coming back. Ran mostly 60 and 65 with the occasional 70 on the way home. Didn't keep track of the curvy sections. Ran into some Wingers and one 96 PC ridden by a Gary Wall of Oklahoma City. They were out for a weekend romp through the hills. We had a nice visit, exchanged a few Road stories, uhhed and oohed over each others bikes. The Wing riders all commented on how impressed they were with the PC's ability to stay right in the pack. They continued on north with me going on south. The hardwoods are just barely beginning to change color so may plan another weekend trip in about three weeks when the trees are a bit more red and orange and I have the new Dunlop on the front. All in all, a great trip. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage/Correction/Mini trip report. Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:08:53 PDT I wrote this: >I have a 40 psi on the front and the rear,< yada, yada, something else. Why is it the fingers always seem to think they know more than the brain does ? I really have a 32 psi on the front and a 40 on the rear and the rear valve stem is a right angle just like the front. Had a great trip down in the backwoods of southwestern Arkansas and southeastern Oklahoma. Lots of curvy Roads, traffic was light and the weather was perfect, jacket liner in until about noon then out it comes and switch to summer gloves. The PC ran great, of course, 55 mpg on the way down there and 50.2 on the way home. It's mostly downhill going and uphill coming back. Ran mostly 60 and 65 with the occasional 70 on the way home. Didn't keep track of the curvy sections. Ran into some Wingers and one 96 PC ridden by a Gary Wall of Oklahoma City. They were out for a weekend romp through the hills. We had a nice visit, exchanged a few Road stories, uhhed and oohed over each others bikes. The Wing riders all commented on how impressed they were with the PC's ability to stay right in the pack. They continued on north with me going on south. The hardwoods are just barely beginning to change color so may plan another weekend trip in about three weeks when the trees are a bit more red and orange and I have the new Dunlop on the front. All in all, a great trip. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gail@cgazette.demon.co.uk for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:19:56 +0000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: pcs in the UK Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:19:56 +0000 As a new and totally captivated owner of a pc, I would like to get some idea of how many owners there are in the UK. Particularly anyone in the north of England. Thanks Gail ------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are sending contributions to the Croquet Gazette please remember to send them in the body of an email and not as an attachment, as I have a Mac that hates most PC software and delights in crashing while trying to convert most files. Alternatively you could try a text attachment, but even these have been known to fail. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMXU44AC; Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:35:09 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:59:19 -0500 Subject: PC800: Safety Strips From: Jim M SMITH While returning from a late evening ice cream run with about 10 other riders on a divided hi way one the bikes (Suzuki) near the back of the group had a fuse go, so had to pull off on a narrow shoulder, two bikes were behind him and they stopped to help , Not being sure of the problem we went to next cross over and came back, then crossed over again, when we finally came up behind them another PC had stopped quite always back so that all the bikes could get in front of him and had his trunk lid up. He had placed regular DOT Tape (silver/red like on the trucks) on the inside of his trunk lid, it really was a great warning device with out marring the outside appearance of the bike that could be seen for long ways. The tape is not very expensive, available at any truck stop and I think well worth any price, I installed some in my trunk the next morning Jim SMITH: 90 PC 17000+ Springfield MO Corbin Seat,Tall Shield,CycleCom, Priority Plus Lights OKCDOC@JUNO.COM, OKCDOC@AOL.COM Retreads Gateway Region (Springfield) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "ann reid" Cc: , , Subject: Re: PC800: "VIN"-DIE-CATE-DUD Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:15:23 -0700 More aluminum colored, are you talking about your hair, or should we ask. Actually, I might change my hair color from gray to aluminum, but then I would have to pronounce it better. Rusty probably won't stay rusty for long, just needs some TLC & being ridden, which I am sure you will provide. Glad to hear your back, sorry to hear your trip had to end. >Ann Reid Wrote: >"Rusty" now that I've seen her from the inside snout. *OUCH* Besides >that's what folks called me when I was a (younger) child (just >yesterday!). Now I'm more aluminum colored. *SHINEY SIDE UP* Well, >it's better than being down!! Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com ; lcshepp@directcon.net ; david.e.smith@cas.honeywell.com Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:51 AM Subject: PC800: "VIN"-DIE-CATE-DUD > LOST IS FOUND: Cancel the search. I "think" I've found 'em. >Only needed to remove large side panel and air vent. I took the others >off just to show off. *APPLAUSE* > It was sooo grimey and yucky inside, I could not see it at first >... or second ... or third. (Not to mention lookin' in wrong place. >*UH, OH*) After spraying with Simple Green, especially formulated for >simple-minded folks like me, and cleaning up with small brass wire brush >and throw away shop towel, it magically appeared. *A VISION* > > The top line of "characters" (alpha-numeric) are raised (three >dimensional, um er demential?) and the bottom "numbers" appear to be >lightly etched. There are similarities in these codes with the VIN on >the title, but they are NOT exactly the same. This is done to confuse >those afflicted with senior moments ... and it worked! Boy was I >confused! > > Thanks for all your input PKO's. (PCee Knight Owls) I just made >that up. *GRINS & GIGGLES* See what too little sleep does?! Let that >be a lesson to you. > >Ann > >'90 PC-AZ Red Cloud ... Actually I'm thinkin' of changing her name to >"Rusty" now that I've seen her from the inside snout. *OUCH* Besides >that's what folks called me when I was a (younger) child (just >yesterday!). Now I'm more aluminum colored. *SHINEY SIDE UP* Well, >it's better than being down!! > >'89 PC-AZ De-Batteried Ghost > >Sat. 10.2.99 6:45 MST > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EMX3B6Y8; Sat, 02 Oct 1999 17:23:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: lcshepp@directcon.net Subject: PC800: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 17:23:53 EDT HOW DO I SPELL RELIEF? 1) '89 PC-AZ GHOST: Interstate/Yuasi is going to reimburse repair shop for new battery installed this morning. It was only seven months old. *UH, OH* Shop owner checked out electrical system (again) and (again) said A-Okay. I had to remove and reinstall plastic myself. Even so he managed to crack a tab and even acknowledged it, but did not offer to repair. *Hmmm* He installed the battery and my Battery Tender plug. 2) '90 PC-AZ TRUSTY RUSTY (Red Cloud): Lucked out this morning at Mtr Veh Dept. Young man who strted checking her out yesterday was there, his boss was not, and he took my word for the engine number (Bless His Heart). I'd taken her in with side panel removed. She looked so exposed and vulnerable (but no cold). *POOR BABY* Then at Title & Registration counter inside (a third MVD location) the guy was wearing a BMW cap. I inquired (read "gave him the third degree"). We had a fun chat and I filled out a customer survey sheet that would get the Pope promoted. His name is Al and he rides a '95 1100 BMW, AZ lic. BEEMER. (Not lic JWH2 that chased me back from California.) MVD clerk bent over backwards for me. Did everything I asked (um, er, don't go THERE!) and it took no time at all. *IMAGINE* He even suggested I get a new style license (prettier than Ghost orig. plate) for her for only a $5 paperwork fee. So now I have LLY-1 (Ghost = "Lily-Won" White & Pure *YAWN*) and LLY-2 = Trusty Rusty Red Cloud ("Lily's-Tu-Tu (Too-Two?)" Glory Red) So, now I have a loaner bike JUST IN CASE out of towners show up to share the ride. i.e. Joyce is due into Phoenix Tuesday. I'm hopeful she'll have enuf airport layover time to ride past Superstition Mtns. round a gazillion twisties, passing by two manmade canyon lakes to enjoy lunch at Tortilla Flat, a wide spot in the road where the bar stools are the rear ends of horses carved from huge chunkets of wood or Saddles. *DECISIONS, DECISIONS* They also have a skeleton in a coffin standing upright in a corner and the walls and ceiling ared covered with signed one dollar bills from past patrons. Oh, yes, they ALWAYS have red licorice which I ALWAYS buy and use as straws. *YUM* Did I mention their food is great, too, and they have Cactus Ice Cream for dessert. Prickly Pear/Prickly Pair? I keep getting those mixed up. *GRIN* Okay, that's enuf of my droll, dull, dingy dialogue. Please complain off-list .... to someone other than me! Thank You!!! Ann Sat. 10.2.99 14:15 MST '89 PC-AZ GhostMOOver (MOO: C.O.W. = Closet On Wheels) '90 PC-AZ Trusty Rusty (when exposed) & Red Cloud (when dressed) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A10018600144; Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:19:12 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: , "Jim M SMITH" Subject: Re: PC800: Safety Strips Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:19:17 -0400 GREAT IDEA!!!!! I am a reflective tape "nut".... I love the stuff. I put some inside of my trunk lid and boy it does work. Thanks for sharing that idea! ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim M SMITH To: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: PC800: Safety Strips > While returning from a late evening ice cream run with about 10 other > riders on a divided hi way one the bikes (Suzuki) near the back of the > group had a fuse go, so had to pull off on a narrow shoulder, two bikes > were behind him and they stopped to help , Not being sure of the problem > we went to next cross over and came back, then crossed over again, when > we finally came up behind them another PC had stopped quite always back > so that all the bikes could get in front of him and had his trunk lid up. > He had placed regular DOT Tape (silver/red like on the trucks) on the > inside of his trunk lid, it really was a great warning device with out > marring the outside appearance of the bike that could be seen for long > ways. > The tape is not very expensive, available at any truck stop and I think > well worth any price, > I installed some in my trunk the next morning > > Jim SMITH: 90 PC 17000+ Springfield MO > Corbin Seat,Tall Shield,CycleCom, Priority Plus Lights > OKCDOC@JUNO.COM, OKCDOC@AOL.COM > Retreads Gateway Region (Springfield) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: Tool kit contents Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:52:46 -0400 To All My just purchased 89 PC came without a scratch and without a tool kit. = Can I get a recommendation as to what you folks carry in the way of = tools, on the road. _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 Silver Spring, MD the way=20 of tools, on the road.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: Winter storage Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:01:39 -0400 For those of you who live in the north. I just got my PC out of the shop for its state safety inspection and a = full maintenance service. Talking with the machanic who did the work, I asked about putting it up = for the winter. He suggested I add a fuel stablizer and completely fill = the gas tank and drain both carbs. He spoke of a drain bolt for each. = The fuel stablizer, he called it Sta-Bil. Any thing else that I can do for winter storage. =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:55:59 -0500 From: William Drake To: PC800 Rider CC: tpaxman@algcorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss modulator Just reading your emails, just wondering which one did you guys install. I'm considering the Starburst Modulator (the expensive one) that is supposed to just plug into the back of the headlight. Was wondering if this is the one you had and if it really fit in there or if I would need to hide it somewhere else on the bike. Thanks in advance Bill Drake Bolingbrook, IL '97 PC800 PCOC/PCOG HRCA AMA PC800 Rider wrote: > tpaxman@algcorp.com writes: > >Hey, folks. I took the front part of my bike apart to change the > >windshield, and thought it would be a good time to install my Kriss > >modulator. Does anyone know where I can hook up the wire that is > >supposed > >to go to an "accessory terminal" (per their instructions). How > >much current > >does the thing need; can I just tap into some other wire? What > >about a > >fuse--does it need a separate one? > > > >If anyone has installed this unit correctly, please let me know > >how you did > >it. > > > >TIA > >________________________ > >Todd M. Paxman > >Ashworth Leininger Group > >Thousand Oaks, CA > >(805) 370-1474 > >tpaxman@algcorp.com > > This was the first accessory I installed on my bike last year when > I bought it and it has worked fine since then. > > I don't remember adding any extra fuse, if one did not come with > the unit I did not add one. I grabbed power from one of the wires > coming out of my fuse box on the left side of the bike behind the > side panel, possibley my dash lights. I'd have to take it apart to > check on which one, but any power source is ok. I tried to avoid > plugging into the headlight power wire though. The wire that is > supposed to connect to the horn was the real problem. I did not get > the right one, but I'm not concerned. I thought I could just > connect it to one of the two wires that go to the horn, at the > horn, but either I can't or I just chose the wrong wire. I don't > see anything happento my headlight when I blow my horn. > > I'm not sure any of this is helpful, but it has been over a year > since I even looked at the set up and I'm not at my bike now. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:05:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: Re: PC800: Long Term Friend To: Cyclenby@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jim: I believe some have drilled holes in the existing covers. I have not installed a radio myself. Check out some of the web pages out there, and the archives might have some info, too. Tony --- Cyclenby@aol.com wrote: > All, > > Now that I have found a friend in my PC800 (1990 > with 24,000) I was wondering > with proper maint and good fortune (avoiding the > thrills and spills of > "blind" motorist) -- what kind of life can I expect > from this bike? > > And second please someone tell me about speaker > covers. Is there an > after-market grill that I can purchase or something > not too, too, ugly to > modify so I can add tunes. Choose to refrain from > helmet music for fear of > isolation from those "blind" drivers -- you know the > types even with my 100 > watt bulb swear they don't see me. > > Oh on the subject of tunes I recommend the Sony > Rotary Controller up front, > 4" speakers, and a SONY deck in one of the bags. I > am wiring mine now and it > provides functionality of control and less eye sore > and surgery on the PC. > > Safe Riding to all from Cyclenby, > > Jim > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Annoying Buzz Fixed To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Forgive me if this has been posted before, but I haven't seen it. I've had an annoying buzz for some time now; it started at around 3000 rpm. Anyway, today I decided to find it. Turned out that it was the little locking door on the fake gas tank. I put some adhesive-backed felt on the couple of little tabs in there (open the door and you will see them). Problem solved! It sounded like it was coming from the windshield. I suppose the windshield was reflecting the sound back to me. If you have a buzz in your windshield, check the fuel fill door! Tony '97 w/7,500 miles p.s. I also changed the oil today with Mobil 1. That oil filter is a pain! I used the phillips screwdriver method of getting it off. ===== My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 3 Oct 1999 04:49:05 UT Sun, 03 Oct 1999 00:41:54 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gruver, James J" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:47:38 -0400 kpmg James J. Gruver 1500 National City Center 1900 East Ninth Street Cleveland, OH 44114 (216) 875-8215 Phone (216) 696-7799 Fax JGRUVER@KPMG.COM ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 22:57:15 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners CC: "Ann S. Reid" Subject: PC800: Tall Hondaline Windshield Hi Coasters, Hope everyone is doing well. Still off list trying to catch up on stuff. Wanted to remind everyone I still have a tall Hondaline windshield in good shape for sale for $100 + shipping. Anyone interested should post to me directly. Thanks. Take care all... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding (almost rebuilt) '89 Pacific Coast, "Shadow Dancer", 17,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Tony Miller" , Subject: Re: PC800: Annoying Buzz Fixed Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:30:27 -0700 Tony, For the oil filter removal, I found a plastic cap made for 3/8 drive wrench that form fits over the end of the filter. The bike has to be on the side stand for access, just slip the cap over the end of the filter, attached your wrench and take it off. Purchased it up at a auto parts store, they make them to fit most oil filters. I change filters first, so I can drop it into a empty pan without splashing oil around, then put the bike on the center stand and change the oil. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tony Miller >p.s. I also changed the oil today with Mobil 1. That >oil filter is a pain! I used the phillips screwdriver >method of getting it off. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Gruver, James J" , Subject: PC800: Re: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:32:58 -0700 Hi James, I guess your on the PC800 list, but I think you forgot to add a little content to your message. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gruver, James J To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 9:49 PM > > >kpmg > >James J. Gruver >1500 National City Center >1900 East Ninth Street >Cleveland, OH 44114 > >(216) 875-8215 Phone >(216) 696-7799 Fax >JGRUVER@KPMG.COM > > >********************************************************************* ******** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >********************************************************************* ******** >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BMillman@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:13:52 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Long Term Friend To: Cyclenby@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 02/10/99 16:49:54 GMT Daylight Time, Cyclenby@aol.com writes: << And second please someone tell me about speaker covers. Is there an after-market grill that I can purchase or something not too, too, ugly to modify so I can add tunes. Choose to refrain from helmet music for fear of isolation from those "blind" drivers -- you know the types even with my 100 watt bulb swear they don't see me. >> Hi Jim, I have the same Sony + Remote set up on my PC and it does work well. The standard speaker covers will - I feel certain - just press out as they are designed to be removed. If i am wrong, you will have to cut them carefully. Having done that you are obviously left with the two holes needing some speaker mesh covering. I had these fitted by a friend in an auto radio business who just moulded the mesh to size and glued it in - it has stayed there for 4 years now, so it does work. I think he quickly made a piece of softwood to fit the aperture and then moulded the mesh around it and trimmed the surplus - sounds easy? I have some photos if you get stuck, good luck. Regards and safe riding, Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC800 - The Palm Tree PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 08:16:55 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Safety Strips To: mlinkous@inetone.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) mlinkous@inetone.net writes: >GREAT IDEA!!!!! > >I am a reflective tape "nut".... I love the stuff. > >I put some inside of my trunk lid and boy it does work. > >Thanks for sharing that idea! Michael, I guess it will be easy to spot your Pacific Coast the next time I cruise through West Virginia. The one that glows 24 hours a day will by yours:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 08:19:17 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Tool kit contents To: Dallas@US.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Dallas@US.net writes: >To All > >My just purchased 89 PC came without a scratch and without a tool >kit. Can I get a recommendation as to what you folks carry in the >way of tools, on the road. > >_______________ >Dallas Thomason >1989, PC800 >Silver Spring, MD Go to your Honda dealer and order a new Honda kit. It already has all the right size tools for most any job you need to do on your new wheels. It's well worth the price (whatever that is) and you will get a couple of unique Honda Pacific Coast tools that you can't get "over the counter" at your hardware store. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tool kit contents Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 06:19:54 PDT >Dallas asked this: >My just purchased 89 PC came without a scratch and without a tool >kit. Can I get a recommendation as to what you folks carry in the >way of tools, on the road. Dallas, My 95 also came to me without a tool kit and being so anxious to hit the Road and ride it I didn't even think to check that before I wrote out the check. Geez, for what I paid for it the dealer should have thrown in at least two tool kits !!! I intend to order a kit but just haven't gotten around to it as yet. My tool kit now is carried in a padded video camera case, a medium sized one with a zippered front pocket for small tools and small items. I bought a set of Craftsman metric open end wrenches on sale, some Craftsman straight blade and phillips head screwdrivers, electrical tape, spare fuses, nylon cable ties in various sizes, spare tail light bulbs and turn signal bulbs, spare tire pressure gauge, metric hex head drivers, Progressive tire repair kit, old sharp pocket knife, 12 inches of real hay baleing wire rolled up in a Skole snuff can, a two tube kit of J B Weld carried in a plastic pill bottle, and spare AA batteries and bulb for the little Mag light. On top of all this is a couple of terry cloth towels wrapped around the tools to cut down the rattle. The kit doesn't take up much space and being soft it compresses if I put stuff on top of it. I plan to put in a spare headlight bulb in a container padded with foam. Oh yeah, in addition to the owners manual I also include the shop manual in case I have to stop at a dealer who have never seen, much less removed the plastic from, a PC. Des,PCOG 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Lee's bike totalled: counsel please "Lee Barker" writes: > In that time, I got the estimate to repair my crashed '94. I had > guessed it at $2000. > > Bottom line: parts........................................6836.59 > labor..........................................968.00 > > TOTAL........................................$7814.59 > > Needless to say it is reasonable to assume the insurance co. (Progressive) > will total the bike, whose book value according to the dealer is $4600. Since I went through the same educational process in March (and I had made the same initial estimate, $2000), here are my insights: 1. Use sources like Kelly Blue Book, MCN, and Cycle Trader, and classified ads in your local newspaper to gather current pricing for used bikes comparable to yours. It's not unethical to throw out low prices... 2. Itemize any custom or recently replaced equipment, such as windscreen, seat, new tires, etc. You should be reimbursed for these, although their values will possibly be discounted. Provide receipts, if you have them. If the insurance company balks, ask if you can remove these components before the bike is salvaged. 3. If the bike was towed to a dealer for crash damage evaluation, you should be reimbursed for towing charges and for the cost of the crash damage evaluation. 4. You should be reimbursed for tag and title registration costs. Believe it or not, it was the automobile driver's insurance company (GEICO) that pointed out the last two points to me -- they amounted to nearly $200. Document everything: conversations, invoices, etc., then present the insurance adjuster with copies of everything. It helps make their work easier, and gently reminds them that you're keeping track of details. Maybe I was lucky, but I found both of the adjusters I worked with to be helpful and courteous, and they never attempted to drive me down on anything. I received more than I expected in settlement. Wishing you a similar outcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Safety Strips Jim M SMITH writes: > ...another PC had stopped quite always back so that all the bikes > could get in front of him and had his trunk lid up. He had placed > regular DOT Tape (silver/red like on the trucks) on the inside of > his trunk lid, it really was a great warning device without marring > the outside appearance of the bike that could be seen for long ways. Outstanding idea! Thanks for sharing the tip. I'm headed off to the auto parts store... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Safety Strips Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:37:56 -0700 These Safety Strips could have further use. Could you charge them in the light and then keep the trunk heated? Say you went to the deli and got a fresh roasted chicken, you could keep it smelling lemon herb fresh on the trip home and the walk in to the kitchen table. Lee Barker 94regon -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: mlinkous@inetone.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:19 AM Subject: Re(2): PC800: Safety Strips >mlinkous@inetone.net writes: >>GREAT IDEA!!!!! >> >>I am a reflective tape "nut".... I love the stuff. >> >>I put some inside of my trunk lid and boy it does work. >> >>Thanks for sharing that idea! > >Michael, > >I guess it will be easy to spot your Pacific Coast the next time I >cruise through West Virginia. The one that glows 24 hours a day >will by yours:-) > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Tool kit contents Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:41:17 -0500 Is there any way you can contact either the dealer or the individual = that you purchased it from, to see where the toolkit is? There has to = be one somewhere..... :-) Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Thomason To: PC800-List Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:03 PM Subject: PC800: Tool kit contents =20 =20 To All =20 My just purchased 89 PC came without a scratch and without a tool = kit. Can I get a recommendation as to what you folks carry in the way = of tools, on the road. =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 Silver Spring, MD carry in=20 the way of tools, on the road.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:52:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Tool kit contents "Dallas Thomason" writes: > My just purchased 89 PC came without a scratch and without a tool kit. > Can I get a recommendation as to what you folks carry in the way of > tools, on the road. The only PC-specific tools you require are the preload ajuster for the rear shock (arguably not, if you never carry a passenger or change the preload), the plug wrench, and a very long allen wrench, which is indispensible for removing body work fasteners. The list in the document cited below may seem excessive (or perhaps obsessive), but it's a pretty good indication of what a serious long-distance rider considers necessary: Ron Major's Tool Kit http://www.ironbutt.com/aow/major_tools.htm That said, I carry about half what this guy recommends, although I'm toying with the idea of doing an Iron Butt qualifying ride (Saddle Sore 1000), and may expand my toolkit a bit. The only things he doesn't list are heavy duty rubber bands and fiberglass-reinforced strapping tape -- these last two can perform some pretty amazing emergency repairs. Looking back at what I carried in the way of tools on long trips in my younger days, I'm appalled -- it's a wonder I'm still around to write about it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:04:26 -0300 To: Cyclenby@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Long Term Friend Jim Cyclenby@aol.com wrote: > Now that I have found a friend in my PC800 (1990 > with 24,000) I was wondering > with proper maint and good fortune (avoiding the > thrills and spills of > "blind" motorist) -- what kind of life can I expect > from this bike? If you change the oil and oil filter and air filter on a reasonable shedule, the engine and trans will probably outlast your children's children. How long does the PC engine last with regular oil and filter changes? We don't know. There are no stats on whether synthetic or regular oil or high octane or low octane gas or this brand or that of air or oil filters are better. Why? Because not enough of the engines has had any kind of problems at all. Mini soapboxette: so for those of you saying "this oil/filter/gas is better than that oil/filter/gas" ... if you want to get the most miles on your beautiful PC -- stop typing emails, and GET OUT AND RIDE. End of mini soapboxette. If you surf up the big PC maint and repair database at http://noc.dal.ca/pc-maint/ and do a report on All bikes, Subsystem: Engine, Transmission or Final Drive, you'll see almost no repairs for any of them. So, the powertrain and mechanics of the bike are extremely robust, and if you drop the bike, just snap new plastic on, and it looks like new again. Your PC is a keeper. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:10:37 -0300 To: Cyclenby@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Long Term Friend Wups. URL was wrong. Correct one is: >If you surf up the big PC maint and repair database at > > http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ > >and do a report on All bikes, Subsystem: Engine, Transmission or Final >Drive, you'll see almost no repairs for any of them. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: Results of last "show" for this year... Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:14:43 -0500 Yesterday, I headed south again for the last car and motorcycle show of = the season. I took my Cougar and the PC (firmly yet lovingly) strapped = to the trailer. (I still don't have the pictures developed from last = time, but when I do, those will be passed to Emile for posting). Again, the PC had really tough competition from the Milwaukee plant, but = I wasn't "skeered". I parked the PC about 15 feet away from the HD = competition, for the fear of "unreliability cooties" is always a = factor... :-) In addition to the HD competition, there were other = unique bikes, such as an unrestored BSA, a couple of Cushmans, an older = BMW, and the typical selection of crotch rockets, etc. (no wings - I was = somewhat surprised) We awaited judging, and were the first to be judged... I was later told = that mine was judged first on purpose, due to the fact that the judge = had never seen one before...(where have I heard that story before?...)=20 I will cut to the chase, and announce that I beat ALL of the Harleys = that were entered in my category (over 600cc's), except one. Yes, a = second place finish for us. We ended this (abbreviated) year with two = firsts and one second. I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage Softtail = that had more chrome on it than a 59 Cadillac (it was nearly ALL = chrome), and a not even broken in 1,000 miles on the odometer. After = the show was over, I told the judge (in a joking way) that I RIDE mine = an average of over 1,000 miles a MONTH... So, we got beat out. (By a $20,000 bike that probably isn't paid for, = and has obviously never been really enjoyed....) I get a feeling of = revenge in that alone. All in all, I was very pleased. Looking forward to showing it more in 2000 (and maybe showing the car = even less...) Oh well, I got 'em all but one.... *grin* Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles "Trophy Winner" with two=20 firsts and one second.  I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage = Softtail that=20 had more chrome on it than a 59 Cadillac (it was nearly ALL chrome), and = a not=20 even broken in 1,000 miles on the odometer.  After the show was = over, I=20 told the judge (in a joking way) that I RIDE mine an = average of=20 over 1,000 miles a MONTH...
 
So, we got beat out.  (By a $20,000 bike that = probably=20 isn't paid for, and has obviously never been really enjoyed....)  I = get a=20 feeling of revenge in that alone.  All in all, I was very=20 pleased.
 
Looking forward to showing it more in 2000 (and = maybe showing=20 the car even less...)
 
Oh well, I got 'em all but one....  = *grin*
 
Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles
"Trophy Winner"
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 09:15:38 -0500 From: William Drake To: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" CC: PC800-List Subject: Re: PC800: Results of last "show" for this year... boundary="------------ACBBAE80D7439C9C7FACA45E" --------------ACBBAE80D7439C9C7FACA45E Great Job Rich !!!! Another victory for the Coasters !!!! Keep up the good work. Bill Drake '97 PC800 "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" wrote: > Yesterday, I headed south again for the last car and motorcycle show > of the season. I took my Cougar and the PC (firmly yet lovingly) > strapped to the trailer. (I still don't have the pictures developed > from last time, but when I do, those will be passed to Emile for > posting). Again, the PC had really tough competition from the > Milwaukee plant, but I wasn't "skeered". I parked the PC about 15 > feet away from the HD competition, for the fear of "unreliability > cooties" is always a factor... :-) In addition to the HD > competition, there were other unique bikes, such as an unrestored BSA, > a couple of Cushmans, an older BMW, and the typical selection of > crotch rockets, etc. (no wings - I was somewhat surprised) We awaited > judging, and were the first to be judged... I was later told that mine > was judged first on purpose, due to the fact that the judge had never > seen one before...(where have I heard that story before?...) I will > cut to the chase, and announce that I beat ALL of the Harleys that > were entered in my category (over 600cc's), except one. Yes, a second > place finish for us. We ended this (abbreviated) year with two firsts > and one second. I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage Softtail that > had more chrome on it than a 59 Cadillac (it was nearly ALL chrome), > and a not even broken in 1,000 miles on the odometer. After the show > was over, I told the judge (in a joking way) that I RIDE mine an > average of over 1,000 miles a MONTH... So, we got beat out. (By a > $20,000 bike that probably isn't paid for, and has obviously never > been really enjoyed....) I get a feeling of revenge in that alone. > All in all, I was very pleased. Looking forward to showing it more in > 2000 (and maybe showing the car even less...) Oh well, I got 'em all > but one.... *grin* Rich Fenwick1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles"Trophy > Winner" > > > --------------ACBBAE80D7439C9C7FACA45E Great Job Rich !!!!

Another victory for the Coasters !!!!

Keep up the good work.

Bill Drake
'97 PC800

"Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" wrote:

Yesterday, I headed south again for the last car and motorcycle show of the season.  I took my Cougar and the PC (firmly yet lovingly) strapped to the trailer. (I still don't have the pictures developed from last time, but when I do, those will be passed to Emile for posting). Again, the PC had really tough competition from the Milwaukee plant, but I wasn't "skeered".  I parked the PC about 15 feet away from the HD competition, for the fear of "unreliability cooties" is always a factor...  :-)  In addition to the HD competition, there were other unique bikes, such as an unrestored BSA, a couple of Cushmans, an older BMW, and the typical selection of crotch rockets, etc. (no wings - I was somewhat surprised) We awaited judging, and were the first to be judged... I was later told that mine was judged first on purpose, due to the fact that the judge had never seen one before...(where have I heard that story before?...) I will cut to the chase, and announce that I beat ALL of the Harleys that were entered in my category (over 600cc's), except one.  Yes, a second place finish for us.  We ended this (abbreviated) year with two firsts and one second.  I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage Softtail that had more chrome on it than a 59 Cadillac (it was nearly ALL chrome), and a not even broken in 1,000 miles on the odometer.  After the show was over, I told the judge (in a joking way) that I RIDE mine an average of over 1,000 miles a MONTH... So, we got beat out.  (By a $20,000 bike that probably isn't paid for, and has obviously never been really enjoyed....)  I get a feeling of revenge in that alone.  All in all, I was very pleased. Looking forward to showing it more in 2000 (and maybe showing the car even less...) Oh well, I got 'em all but one....  *grin* Rich Fenwick1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles"Trophy Winner"
 
--------------ACBBAE80D7439C9C7FACA45E-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:38:06 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Results of last "show" for this year... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/3/99 9:13:11 AM Central Daylight Time, rich@pdnt.com writes: > I beat ALL of the Harleys that were entered in my category (over 600cc's), > except one. Yes, a second place finish for us. We ended this (abbreviated) > year with two firsts and one second. Rich, Your PC must be extremely clean! I am amazed that the judges even consider the PC a show winner, not because it is not a beautiful bike, but because the mindset is to select a Harley or Harley clone with the most chrome and custom paint. Congratulations and keep up the show appearances! I'd love to hear what some of the owners of the other entries are saying after they get placed behind your setup! I'd also like to see photos of your auto and PC combo as well as some of the competition you've dusted! Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: I didn't know if I should have laughed or cried.... Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:55:25 -0500 Oh, I forgot one of the moments yesterday that I didn't know HOW to = react to... I was talking to a guy who had a purple 'cuda at the show and I = commented to him that I had brought my motorcycle also. I told him that = mine was "The red one over there" (as I pointed to the PC from about a = half of a block away). And he responded... "Oh, the BMW?" As I said, I didn't know if I should have laughed or cried.... I never knew a PC could be SO FUN. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles -----Original Message----- From: Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick) To: PC800-List Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: PC800: Results of last "show" for this year... =20 =20 Yesterday, I headed south again for the last car and motorcycle show = of the season. I took my Cougar and the PC (firmly yet lovingly) = strapped to the trailer. (I still don't have the pictures developed from = last time, but when I do, those will be passed to Emile for posting). =20 Again, the PC had really tough competition from the Milwaukee plant, = but I wasn't "skeered". I parked the PC about 15 feet away from the HD = competition, for the fear of "unreliability cooties" is always a = factor... :-) In addition to the HD competition, there were other = unique bikes, such as an unrestored BSA, a couple of Cushmans, an older = BMW, and the typical selection of crotch rockets, etc. (no wings - I was = somewhat surprised) =20 We awaited judging, and were the first to be judged... I was later = told that mine was judged first on purpose, due to the fact that the = judge had never seen one before...(where have I heard that story = before?...)=20 =20 I will cut to the chase, and announce that I beat ALL of the Harleys = that were entered in my category (over 600cc's), except one. Yes, a = second place finish for us. We ended this (abbreviated) year with two = firsts and one second. I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage Softtail = that had more chrome on it than a 59 Cadillac (it was nearly ALL = chrome), and a not even broken in 1,000 miles on the odometer. After = the show was over, I told the judge (in a joking way) that I RIDE mine = an average of over 1,000 miles a MONTH... =20 So, we got beat out. (By a $20,000 bike that probably isn't paid = for, and has obviously never been really enjoyed....) I get a feeling = of revenge in that alone. All in all, I was very pleased. =20 Looking forward to showing it more in 2000 (and maybe showing the = car even less...) =20 Oh well, I got 'em all but one.... *grin* =20 Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles "Trophy Winner" =20 (abbreviated) year with two firsts and one second.  I was = beaten out by=20 a 98 HD Heritage Softtail that had more chrome on it than a 59 = Cadillac (it=20 was nearly ALL chrome), and a not even broken in 1,000 miles on the=20 odometer.  After the show was over, I told the judge (in a = joking way)=20 that I RIDE mine an average of over 1,000 miles a=20 MONTH...
 
So, we got beat out.  (By a $20,000 bike = that=20 probably isn't paid for, and has obviously never been really=20 enjoyed....)  I get a feeling of revenge in that alone.  = All in=20 all, I was very pleased.
 
Looking forward to showing it more in 2000 (and = maybe=20 showing the car even less...)
 
Oh well, I got 'em all but one.... =20 *grin*
 
Rich Fenwick
1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles
"Trophy Winner"
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail4.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 3 Oct 1999 16:37:53 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bill Jackman To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:37:41 -0600 I do not think it "turns the front wheel", but rather pushes it away. The result of this is the same as what happens when you countersteer. You think "push left bar to go left" what happens: you push left bar, front tire turns ever so slightly to the right, taking what used to be directly underneath you (your wheel), slightly not quite under you. Since you are on 2 wheels you begin to tip over. A turn is really just a fall we control with a combination of gyroscopic forces of the wheels & the centrifugal force of the weight of the bike moving in an arc. In my experience this effect is greater with the full front fender/wheel cover, but also exists without it. I think it has to do with the large amount of low bodywork on our pcs. Bill Jackman 89PC SLC, UT -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:33 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Mileage VS Windshield Size > ....... And it handled strong > crosswinds much better than Minerva. I have discovered auto-lean! > > Maybe Ann would consider a swap. > > David E Smith > Phoenix > 1998 PC800 > "Minerva" > -- Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it wasn't intentional when designed. Jeffrey King (K5ING) '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Preload adjust Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:22:29 -0400 > > The only PC-specific tools you require are the preload ajuster for the > rear shock > Selden Deemer Selden What does the preload adjuster look like. It is a wrench or bar or what. Dallas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" , "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Results of last "show" for this year... Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:25:23 -0700 Congratulations on a job well done. Tupperware is King. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- From: Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick) =20 =20 I will cut to the chase, and announce that I beat ALL of the Harleys = that were entered in my category (over 600cc's), except one. Yes, a = second place finish for us. We ended this (abbreviated) year with two = firsts and one second. I was beaten out by a 98 HD Heritage=20 (abbreviated) year with two firsts and one second.  I was = beaten out by=20 a 98 HD Heritage
 
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Preload adjust Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:28:43 -0700 Maybe someone on the lists with a digital camera can send you a pic of it, along with the special spark plug extension. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dallas Thomason To: Selden Deemer ; PC 800 List Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: PC800: Preload adjust >> >> The only PC-specific tools you require are the preload ajuster for the >> rear shock >> Selden Deemer > > >Selden > >What does the preload adjuster look like. It is a wrench or bar or what. > >Dallas > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:03:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Gas smell redux I'm not convinced that I was ever smelling anything out of the ordinary, or that disassembling, reassembling, and adding an extension tube to the vacuum fuel shutoff valve changed anything. I think I was smelling vapors escaping from vents in the gas cap, probably perfectly normal, considering the location of the gas tank filler relative to the rider. Today I unscrewed the two screws that hold the gas cap door to its hinge, and with the door off the bike I carefully applied a bead, about 1/8" thick, of black silicone rubber around the edge. After letting the stuff cure for about 15 minutes in the sun, so that it would skin over, I screwed the door back onto its hing. After wetting the edge of the shelter ("door frame") I pushed the door closed, and locked it, thus forcing the still liquid goop to conform to the joint between door and frame. After an hour in the noonday sun, I unlocked the door, pried it open, removed it again, and trimmed the rough edges of silicone rubber with a razor blade. I now have an airtight seal around the gas tank filler area (it can still breathe, though, since there are drain holes in the bottom of the filler well). This seems to work, as I didn't smell anything while riding today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.06) id A6D61150132; Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:21:10 +03d00 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Prince" To: "Gruver, James J" , Subject: PC800: RE: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:21:01 -0400 Importance: Normal What? -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu] On Behalf Of Gruver, James J Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 12:48 AM To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: kpmg James J. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM2VHZ4B; Sun, 03 Oct 1999 19:39:56 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:32:15 -0400 Subject: PC800: Annoying Buzz I found an annoying buzz to be my door over the coolant reservoir. So far I have yet 2 fix it. Rocky ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1) with SMTP id 2478887 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 03 Oct 1999 20:22:05 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Hole in Fender Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:56:21 -0400 type="text/plain" While giving my PC a THOROUGH cleaning today, I noticed for the first time a black plug in the left side of the fender just behind the left strut (?). Anyone know why it's there? My guess is wiring for the optional Honda Front Tire Illumination Unit. Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Preload adjust Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:18:12 +0200 >Maybe someone on the lists with a digital camera can send you a pic of >it, along with the special spark plug extension. >Will Edwards >>What does the preload adjuster look like. It is a wrench or bar or >>what. >>Dallas Picture of the preload adjuster from the factory PC manual: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/pantera/936/manual/man3.jpg (factory manual pages at http://go.to/pc800 ) Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:28:06 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Preload adjust To: rstar@aa.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/3/99 2:26:24 PM Central Daylight Time, rstar@aa.net writes: > >What does the preload adjuster look like. It is a wrench or bar or > what. > > > >Dallas Boy, that's a hard one! It is a bar about 6" or 7" long, maybe less, which has a bend in it at about the 2/3 mark. It is "hollow", for lack of a better adjective, so that one end slides over the adjustment tab of the shock and the other end accepts a solid bar (part of the tool kit) used to extend its length so your hand can grasp the tool. The purpose of the bend is to allow room for your hand to fit in the space between the tool and the rear wheel/drive. It is still not easy to adjust, however. I guess a longer extension would help by allowing a better angle to pull/push and so give better leverage. Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: PC800: MSC - ERC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Took the 1 day experienced riders course today at the loacl virginia community college. It was a long day (4 hours classroom, and 5 hours range time) but it was well spent. As usual, the PC was the talk of the crowd, although a new BMW KT1200 garnered a lot of attention. The harly's were loud as usual. Recommend the course, and as you know, HRCA pays for it each year so its free! Bob ===== Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:31:45 EDT Subject: PC800: PC800 Plastic fix To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I was told by a fellow coaster that there is a guy that will repair and paint body parts that and been broken. Does anyone any any info on the person. Has anyone used his service and how was the job and price ????? Ride safe and Often JIM T Beachwood NJ 1996 PC 800 39000 K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 4 Oct 1999 02:45:35 UT Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:38:13 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gruver, James J" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Introduction Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:43:59 -0400 Greetings all. Just recently signed on the list and wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. I will be lurking on this thread in hopes of learning more about the Honda Pacific Coast and riding in general. I live in the Cleveland, Ohio area (specifically, Euclid) and my current ride is a 1994 Kawasaki Concours which I really enjoy. However, I have been looking to purchase a second bike that I can enjoy for longer distance rides (cleveland to colorado a couple times a year). I am thinking about either a used PC800 or ST1100. Look forward to reading your comments and contributing where I can. Jim Cleveland, OH '94 Kawasaki Concours JGRUVER@KPMG.COM ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:58:20 -0700 From: Phil Lewis CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Subject: PC800: Re: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE ann reid wrote: > . I had to remove and reinstall plastic myself. Even > so he managed to crack a tab Hi Ann! I was at one of the factory outlet stores (locally here, the one near Lake Elsinore) and found a product called Gorilla Glue. It's not cheap at about $10 for a fairly small bottle, but it sure lives up to its name. It literally glues anything to anything PERMANENTLY. If you use too much, it fluffs up like a solid bunch of insulation material. But use just a little, and it will glue those tabs back on for good!!! The only thing you have to be careful of is........... when that Gorilla wants his glue back!! ;-) Anyway..............., if you can't find any of the stuff, let me know and I can either ride to the store and buy a bottle for you, or I can put a little bit in some type of container and send you a sample. Take it easy, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'dwilkers@us.ibm.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: RE: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:46:26 -0400 Hey Doug, I've recently acquired a fully-faired(?) Triumph Trophy and it seems to do about the same thing. I think it has something to do with where the center of gravity is and where the greatest amount of surface area is on the bike. Personally, I absolutely *HATE* wind - I do anything to avoid it. Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of dwilkers@us.ibm.com Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:15 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: >>Seriously, I think I know why it works. The wind hits the wheel cover, >>and acts to turn the front wheel, and thus making the bike want to >>turn into the wind. One of the PC's greatest features, even if it >>wasn't intentional when designed. My '98 has autolean, minus the wheel cover. I don't think it has anything to do with the wheel cover. The PC is my first bike. Is this feature unique to the PC800, or do all bikes do it? How about similar bikes? Or just bikes that are fully faired? Just defending my coverless (ie "less prissy") PC. Doug Wilkerson ........................................................................ ............................. IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:52:07 +0200 >Personally, I absolutely *HATE* wind - I do anything to avoid it. >Chris Barrett Interesting, I love a windy day now and then, gives me something to do on my commute. Not too much though, it's pretty hard twisting on the dikes with gusts trying to blow you off into the water. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:26:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: MSC - ERC Bob Broeking writes: > Took the 1 day experienced riders course today at the loacl virginia > community college. It was a long day (4 hours classroom, and 5 hours > range time) but it was well spent.... The harly's were loud as usual. > Recommend the course, and as you know, HRCA pays for it each year so > its free! Maybe ERC practice varies state to state. For the course I took last month, we were told during pre-registration that loud pipes would not be tolerated. Before going on to the range, all the bikes were inspected, and three were disqualified because of loud pipes, one more for a worn front tire. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE Phil Lewis writes: > ann reid wrote: > >> . I had to remove and reinstall plastic myself. Even >> so he managed to crack a tab > > Hi Ann! > > I was at one of the factory outlet stores (locally here, the one near > Lake Elsinore) and found a product called Gorilla Glue. It's not cheap > at about $10 for a fairly small bottle, but it sure lives up to its > name. It literally glues anything to anything PERMANENTLY. If you use > too much, it fluffs up like a solid bunch of insulation material. But > use just a little, and it will glue those tabs back on for good!!! This sounds like a polyurethane glue; they are extremely sticky, and will bond most anything. However, I don't think polyurethane has the necessary strength and flexibility to secure a broken tab reliably. Chuck Chiodini suggested that I use JB Weld (an epoxy) with fiberglass cloth, and after doing so I concur. I have been very pleased with the results. My tab was actually in several pieces, due to brake fluid poisoning. I smeared JB Weld on both sides of the tab, then put a layer of fiberglass over each side, then used a C clamp and some old pieces of polyethylene to hold everything together while the epoxy cured. When done, the polyethylene pulled right off, leaving a smooth, dark gray finish, much like the original plastic. I drilled a new hole in the tab, and was back in business. Someone else on the list suggested looking in a hobby supply store for small strips of fine-weave fiberglass cloth, rather than the coarse weave that one finds in auto supply stores. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: "Gruver, James J" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:49:03 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction >>Just recently signed on the list and wanted to take a moment to introduce >>myself. I will be lurking on this thread in hopes of learning more about >>the Honda Pacific Coast and riding in general. I live in the Cleveland, >>Ohio area (specifically, Euclid) and my current ride is a 1994 Kawasaki >>Concours which I really enjoy. However, I have been looking to purchase a >>second bike that I can enjoy for longer distance rides (cleveland to >>colorado a couple times a year). I am thinking about either a used PC800 or >>ST1100. Look forward to reading your comments and contributing where I can. James: I find the PC to be much smoother and more refined than the Concourse all around. Having said that, I think you'll be disappointed. You're used to about a 10,000 redline, with about 4 grand on the tack at 75 mph. The PC is, in my opinion, not designed for cruising at 75 mph. It has a much lower redline--I think about 7500 rpm, and yet the tach pegs about 5 grand at 75 mph. I think the PC was not designed primarily for touring and interstate travel. I think it was designed for the commuter, who goes to work 20-30 miles per day at about 55 mph who needs a place to store his briefcase or whatever. I absolutely love hopping on my PC for a drive to the store downtown, or just cruising around the county roads when I want some fun in the twisties. I did not, however, get warm fuzzies on my two day trip from Tuscaloosa, AL to Marysville, OH for the Honda Homecoming. Nor am I particularly comfortable on the interstate from Tuscaloosa to the Birmingham Airport (65 miles). The ST has much longer legs . . probably more comparable in terms of high speed cruising to your Concourse. I think you'll find the ST to be smoother and more refined, but you're gonna pay for it. If you want something to replace your Concourse for long distance travel, don't buy the PC. It's smoother and more refined all around than the Concourse, but the Concourse still has much longer legs for the trip. If I could have as many bikes as I'd like, I think I'd go for the VFR800 with the Corbin seat and bags for around town fun and light touring, and then a new-for-2001 (or whenever) Gold Wing for those trips that last longer than an hour or two. There are those on this list (Tim Davies comes to mind) who wander happily all over the country on their PC without any complaints. I'm sure they'll take issue with my gripes. I'm just calling it like I see it. Doug Wilkerson '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:21:35 -0700 Adhesives: Selden's concerns about polyurethane glue (which is what Gorilla is) are right on. Its two principal virtues are: (1) waterproofossity and (b) gap-fillingness. Its primary use is in woodworking; specifically boatbuilding. If you want to find some, try the adhesive section of a good hardware store or a woodworking specialty place. Thanks, Selden, for the Betty Crocker Recipe of the Week for tab reattachment. This goes in the Big Binder. Lee Oregon -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 5:51 AM Subject: PC800: Re: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE >Phil Lewis writes: > >> ann reid wrote: >> >>> . I had to remove and reinstall plastic myself. Even >>> so he managed to crack a tab >> >> Hi Ann! >> >> I was at one of the factory outlet stores (locally here, the one near >> Lake Elsinore) and found a product called Gorilla Glue. It's not cheap >> at about $10 for a fairly small bottle, but it sure lives up to its >> name. It literally glues anything to anything PERMANENTLY. If you use >> too much, it fluffs up like a solid bunch of insulation material. But >> use just a little, and it will glue those tabs back on for good!!! > >This sounds like a polyurethane glue; they are extremely sticky, and >will bond most anything. However, I don't think polyurethane has the >necessary strength and flexibility to secure a broken tab reliably. > >Chuck Chiodini suggested that I use JB Weld (an epoxy) with fiberglass >cloth, and after doing so I concur. I have been very pleased with the >results. My tab was actually in several pieces, due to brake fluid >poisoning. I smeared JB Weld on both sides of the tab, then put a layer >of fiberglass over each side, then used a C clamp and some old pieces of >polyethylene to hold everything together while the epoxy cured. When >done, the polyethylene pulled right off, leaving a smooth, dark gray >finish, much like the original plastic. I drilled a new hole in the tab, >and was back in business. Someone else on the list suggested looking in >a hobby supply store for small strips of fine-weave fiberglass cloth, >rather than the coarse weave that one finds in auto supply stores. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:24:05 -0300 To: "PC800" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind I love driving in high winds, I love the feeling of the bike being blown out from under me and automatically countering. But my partner, now driving a PC, like you, is terrified of crosswind even though he hasn't ever had a bad experience on the PC. I remember one ride a few years ago, he was on his Magna V30 and we were driving in high crosswinds, and my PC was leaned WAY over countering the wind, and the Magna wasn't, and while the PC was leaned over, the Magna was just getting blown off the road. I think, like the tar snakes, unless you've done it a lot, crosswinds on the PC give you the -feeling- that the bike is out of control even though it really isn't. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ward, Scott" To: "'Juan A. Goula'" , Crystal , PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: RE: Alaska! (no M/C content, but funny) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:22:20 -0500 And the good, intelligent, kind hearted, God fearing, folks in MN = balanced by their Governor. - ScotT -----Original Message----- From: Juan A. Goula [mailto:jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 7:33 PM To: Crystal; PC800; HSTA Subject: Alaska! (no M/C content, but funny) Ok, ok, this is, admittedly, more than a little biased. I hope it does not offend anyone either. I do hope it makes you smile. Have a great weekend! =09 ************************************************************************= **** Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look Michael, see what I've made..." Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused. God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a place. "What's that?" "Ah," said God. "That's Alaska, the most glorious place on Earth. There's beautiful lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite shore-line along the seas. The people from Alaska are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high-achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace." Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed, "What about balance, God? You said there would be BALANCE!" God replied, "Wait until you see the loud-mouth ba*tards I'm putting in their Legislature!" =09 ************************************************************************= **** ** --=20 Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85=B0N, Long.: 147.72=B0W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dal=ED) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks=09 (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:16 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, jgruver@kpmg.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 7:02:37 AM Mountain Daylight Time, dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: << There are those on this list (Tim Davies comes to mind) who wander happily all over the country on their PC without any complaints. I'm sure they'll take issue with my gripes. >> David Little comes to my mind. He has been to every state in the lower 48 more than once on his PC, and has put over 230,000 miles on his bike doing it. He claims to have tried them all, and has found nothing better than the Pacific Coast for touring. He even sold the bike (a BMW of somekind) that he thought would replace his PC because he like the PC better. I took my own PC on a 1700 mile round trip one week and thought it perfect. The guy that I was traveling with was on his '97 Wing and when we swapped bikes for a hundred miles or so, was impressed with the comfort of the PC compared to the Wing. I have been to only 13 states on my bike, but at no time did I ever wish that I was on something else. Oh, as by the way, my PC cruises quite comfortably at 80 or better. Hope this helps. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Gruver, James J" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:28:07 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gruver, James J >my current ride is a 1994 Kawasaki >Concours which I really enjoy. However, I have been looking to purchase a >second bike that I can enjoy for longer distance rides (cleveland to >colorado a couple times a year). I am thinking about either a used PC800 or >ST1100. Look forward to reading your comments and contributing where I can. >Jim Hi Jim, welcome to the list ! I think we have about 3 Jim's now... Doug gave a pretty good comparison, but he failed to notice you wanted to purchase a second bike. I'm surprised to see that you apperently don't consider the Concours a long distance traveler despite the fact that is has a fairing, shaft drive and the biggest fuel tank of all motorcycles. Like Doug said, the ST is the perfect long distance traveler, big tank, a lot of power, actually a lot like the Concours only smoother and more expensive. Maybe it helps to tell you that the PC has around 46 hp on the rear wheel with around 64 Nm and it has a 4.2 Gallon fuel tank. The ST has 90 hp on the rear wheel, around 110Nm torque and a 7.4 Gallon fuel tank. The PC would be a step backwards for you in power and range, allthough a step forward on smoothness and twist-ability. You just missed a thread on the PC vs. ST comparison. You can browse the archives at http://members.tripod.com/pc800 (start > listserver) to read that thread. It was around last week. This is a part of what I said in that thread: PC vs. ST: My impressions of the ST match the design features. It's slightly harder to push the ST into a corner, but once it's leaning it's really stable. The PC would start wobbling a lot when hitting a bump in a high speed turn, but the ST won't budge a bit. It's as solid as a train, like a TGV. The PC is easier to throw around on the dikes, the ST takes a little more force. Not much though, they are both bikes that give a very confident feeling, you just know what it's gonna do, there are no surprises. Following is my opinion on the ST and PC (keep in mind I prefer the ST : )). Similarities: *High comfort *Lot of packing space *Great handing thanks to low CG *very low maintenance and very reliable *Honda Pro's PC: *loading the trunk is very easy, trunks rule ! *VERY easy to throw around in the twisties and in town (like allroad bikes) *straight up seating position if you like that (I don't, bad for my back) *hydraulic valve adjusters *a joy to cruise at low speeds *four crash bars *three tail lights *looks (if you like 'm, I do) *unique bike, lots of attention.. *easy to build in stereo (I think...) *Vomit washes off easily : ) *very smooth engine *very cheap, a LOT of bike for the buck Pro's ST: *you can take the cases up your bedroom / hotelroom to (un)load *easy to throw around, very stable at high speed (incl. turns) *FAST, FASTER...it doesn't wanna go slow.. *almost double the power of the PC (PC 56hp 64Nm ,ST 100hp 110Nm) *V4, 16 Valves......... *7.4 Gallon fuel tank > big range *ergonomical seating position if you like that (I do, no slouching) *Very good brakes, front and rear *ABS, TCS, DCBS *incredibly good high beam (this one turns night into day, really..) *lighted clock *looks *maintenance relatively easy, engine parts easier to reach and / or replace *very cheap (unpainted) crash bar covers (only 2) *UMPF ! Con's PC: *difficult to reach engine and other internal parts *expensive (painted) crash bar covers *small tank (yet same range as Goldwing thanks to good fuel economy) *rear brake could be better *no clock *46 hp on rear wheel...(never really had a problem with that though) * "Deathly Goldwing Wobble" (can be solved with different shocks) Con's ST: *fuel economy slightly worse than PC's *heavier (yet no problem really) *higher load on wrists on pre-'94 models (after '94 higher bars) *expensive (but also high resale value..., good investment : ) *No officer, I didn't realise I was going that fast... The bikes are different, one is not necessarily better than the other. I ride ca. 15K-20K miles per year, every day, all weather, all distances, year round. I don't own car, I use my ST for nearly everything. I commute with it, shop with it, take short and long daytrips with it and use it for exploring Europe. I like riding fast and sporty (and safe) and I like to do that all day. I did that on my PC, but I felt the ST fits me better for those goals. I like the extra power and prefer the slightly sportier seating position, it's more comfortable for me. On the PC slouching was easy, I had to force myself to keep a straight back. On the ST I have to give my wrists more rests with the help of the Vista Cruise. I have no problems with staying in either the PC's or ST's saddle all day. The Vista Cruise is a key element though (on PC and ST). If your goal is only light touring, which sounds to me like daytrips in warm weather, the PC will suit you fine. It's seating position also matches closest to the Goldwing's. Both bikes are perfect for relaxed cruising all day and enjoying the scenery. The PC is also perfect for conquering twisty roads, I've had many VFR's and ZXR's behind me trying to keep up on the Dutch dikes or in the Vosges mountains. If you're into the kick of power, if you wanna cover great distances at high speed in good comfort without a lot of fuel stops, but still be able to have fun shooting up the Alps, the extra money you have to fork out for the ST1100 is well worth it. It all depends on your style... Good luck with your decision. One thing I can tell you, the PC's mailing list is the nicest one around. You get us for free : ). Greetings, Emile '90 PC800 Pacfic Coast "The Flying Dutchman" SOLD '92 ST1100 Pan European ABS/TCS "Eclipse http://fly.to/emile ST pics online this week (I hope) http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'Gruver, James J'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Introduction Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:43:36 -0400 James, I tend to agree with Doug Wilkerson on most of his points. The PC's power plant does not really seem to be geared for high-speed travel, although I've managed stints of over 20 hours at about 70 MPH and the PC has never complained. At the higher speeds, with the tach hovering at 4500 RPM or higher, gas mileage plummets. For example, I average about 47.5 MPG at around 60 MPH. At 70 MPH, that drops to about 40 MPG. At 75 (just 5 mph faster) its down to 35-38 MPG. This wouldn't be a problem, but the tank only holds 4.2 gallons. To be fair, a great deal of this loss of mileage is probably the Tall Hondaline windscreen I have. The PC would be a perfect candidate for a 6th gear. However, everything else about the bike is WONDERFUL. For a solo rider it has plenty of get-up-and-go. The riding position is great, and the seat and handlebar position are comfortable even after 10+ hours on the thing. Very little vibration or excess noise from the engine. Excellent protection from the wind, too. And the storage certainly beats using saddle bags or panniers. Very low maitenance too, meaning more miles on the bike than off. To sum it up, the PC makes a nice tourer, but will probably leave you wanting a little more power and range. Aside from that, I think the PC is the best bike yet produced as far as comfort and storage goes. Consider this: With a top box, the PC has considerably more useable storage space than a Gold Wing! Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Gruver, James J Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 7:44 PM To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: PC800: Introduction Greetings all. Just recently signed on the list and wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. I will be lurking on this thread in hopes of learning more about the Honda Pacific Coast and riding in general. I live in the Cleveland, Ohio area (specifically, Euclid) and my current ride is a 1994 Kawasaki Concours which I really enjoy. However, I have been looking to purchase a second bike that I can enjoy for longer distance rides (cleveland to colorado a couple times a year). I am thinking about either a used PC800 or ST1100. Look forward to reading your comments and contributing where I can. Jim Cleveland, OH '94 Kawasaki Concours JGRUVER@KPMG.COM ************************************************************************ ***** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'Emile Nossin'" , "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:48:22 -0400 About a week ago I was doing the 100 mile commute to Lima, Ohio where I teach a night class. On the way up I was confronted with gusting winds, some strong enough to blow me all the way onto the berm. On the way back, things seemed okay. When I finally got home I checked the weather conditions for the area. I had been riding through gusts of between 25 and 35 MPH. There is nothing quite like being hit, suddenly and without warning, and finding yourself sliding uncontrollably for the gravel at the side of the road. Chris Barrett "The Wind Warrior" Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Emile Nossin Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:52 AM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: >Personally, I absolutely *HATE* wind - I do anything to avoid it. >Chris Barrett Interesting, I love a windy day now and then, gives me something to do on my commute. Not too much though, it's pretty hard twisting on the dikes with gusts trying to blow you off into the water. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:49:03 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: MSC - ERC ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer >Maybe ERC practice varies state to state. For the course I took last >month, we were told during pre-registration that loud pipes would not >be tolerated. Before going on to the range, all the bikes were inspected, >and three were disqualified because of loud pipes, one more for a worn >front tire. I really dislike loud pipes, but I'm curious - how did they determine how loud was too loud? It's such a personal thing, and accurately and repeatably measuring noise can require fancy equipment and testing. thanks, Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'Daniel MacKay'" , "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Cross wind Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:51:31 -0400 I think one of my main problems is that I tend to panic a bit when the wind is gusting. With a steady crosswind I don't really mind it too much. Its when your suddenly sliding over a lane that my heart starts thumping. Your right, though - the more you do it, the easier it is. I certainly handle it better then when I first started riding. Take care, Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Daniel MacKay Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:24 AM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind I love driving in high winds, I love the feeling of the bike being blown out from under me and automatically countering. But my partner, now driving a PC, like you, is terrified of crosswind even though he hasn't ever had a bad experience on the PC. I remember one ride a few years ago, he was on his Magna V30 and we were driving in high crosswinds, and my PC was leaned WAY over countering the wind, and the Magna wasn't, and while the PC was leaned over, the Magna was just getting blown off the road. I think, like the tar snakes, unless you've done it a lot, crosswinds on the PC give you the -feeling- that the bike is out of control even though it really isn't. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:51:48 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: DASTARDLY DEEDS BE DONE For repairing broken plastic pieces and broken tabs, I've had good experience with Three Bonds Glue Kit. It's just CA (cyanoacrylate, like Super Glue) glue with fiberglass cloth and accelerator in a pump bottle (so you can build your own kit if you want to). Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:00:06 -0400 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: PC800: vacuum List Member: My PC finally let me down. I scheduled a ride with a group of friends for this past Sun afternoon. I got up early to clean the bike and to get organized. The bike ran well around the neighbourhood before church. Upon returning I geared up and climbed on the bike. IT WOULD NOT start. As my blood pressure rose and the battery died, I had to call and cancel the ride, while taking a good hounding about getting a real motorcycle. Ahhh In my search to understand why, I remove the body work to expose the fuel shut off valve that I had worked on the day before. It was pumping fuel out the small unhosed vent valve on the bottom of the piece. I tighten the bolts and still it leaked. What could cause this problem? I am 95% sure that I reassembled it correctly. There were only four parts. FWI Don't drop the small spring cap when disassembling the vacuum value. It will magically fall the most inaccessible crevasse deep in the core of your PC :( Input needed. ..... Kenneth -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:04:08 -0300 To: "Chris Wilson" , "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" , "Bill Jarrells" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: First PC ride impression :( Chris: All of these are affected by whether we dress left or dress right?? OY!! All these years I've been dressing left -- now I wonder how my life would have been different if I dressed right!! At 19:33 1/10/99, Chris Wilson wrote: >Aspects like, who we marry, where we live, how many kids we have, how >big a house we have, what car we drive, where and how often we are >allowed to ride, if we take the job we want or the one she wants us to >have. Need I go on, I'm getting ill. >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > >Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care >Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck >Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) > 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) > IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Daniel MacKay >To: Steve Wilson ; Steven R. Zweigart >; 'PC800 Mailing List' ; Bill >Jarrells >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:21 PM >Subject: Re: PC800: First PC ride impression :( > > >> At 11:28 30/9/99, Steve Wilson wrote: >> >Said "package" >> >placement affects many other aspects of our lives, >> >> I'm really afraid to ask, but curiosity is killing me. Aside from >> affecting whether both knees can touch a motorcycle dashboard, WHAT >other >> aspects? >> >> -- >> Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca >> Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada >> >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:53:34 -0700 Sometimes it is the little things that make your bike look newer (or older) :-). The two switches (HIGH/LOW headlight and kill switch for the ignition) on the handlebars start to fade after a few years and the white in the lettering wears off. Mine were looking rather ratty ;-). I may get yelled at for being a bit too compulsive but I replaced them both with new switches (they are about $25 each). Granted, a lot to spend for a couple of switches (both the old ones worked fine BTW), but it does improve the overall look of the bike and if I was getting it ready to sell, it would improve the price far beyond the $50. Installation is *very* easy and it gave me a chance to replace one of the screws in the handlebar plastic at the same time :-). Read all the way to the bottom before starting; you may save yourself some time. 1) Pop the center plastic ignition cover off (the piece around the ignition switch); it just pulls straight up (wiggle it a bit). 2) Remove the three large Phillips screws (again around the ignition switch). 3) Remove the six Phillips screws (three on each side; look for them underneath) holding the handlebar plastic together. 4) The switch cables just pull out of the switch (compress the side latches). 5) Pop the old switches out, pop the new switches in. They are held in by a plastic "tab" that compresses to allow the switch in and out. It does not have to be all that "secure" since all the pressure is from the top. POSSIBLE FAST WAY TO REPLACE THESE SWITCHES: If you could get a good grab on them, you might be able to replace the switch without removing *any* plastic by pulling the switch up and out. Assuming the cable is long enough to unplug and plug in the new switch from above, all you would have to do is pop the new switch in. 6) Re-assemble :-). > Harrison Spain > Unigraphics Solutions > GTAC Systems Support > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:01:08 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:00:50 -0600 From: "Thomas J. Phelps" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wanted: 1996 PC800 My father lost his '96 PC800 off his trailer this past summer and, as you = can imagine, was heartbroken. He is now looking for a new/used one. He = would prefer the 96 model, but is also interested in the 97 thru 99 = models. He was going to buy a new 2000 model but Honda is not selling = them to the States this year. If there is anyone that can help me help him, I would be very grateful. = (As would he).... Tom Phelps for: Neal Phelps Tucson Arizona, USA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:54 +0100 I have 4 windscreens for the PC800 1. Standard with Stealth Edging 2. Tall Hondaline 3. Tall Flip Up by Ermax 4. Standard cut down 5 inches. Crosswinds and gusts are very noticeable and sometimes alarming with the two tall windscreens. With the other two the PC800 is hardly affected. Job, England ---------- > From: Daniel MacKay > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 2:24 PM > > I love driving in high winds, I love the feeling of the bike being blown > out from under me and automatically countering. > > But my partner, now driving a PC, like you, is terrified of crosswind even > though he hasn't ever had a bad experience on the PC. > > I remember one ride a few years ago, he was on his Magna V30 and we were > driving in high crosswinds, and my PC was leaned WAY over countering the > wind, and the Magna wasn't, and while the PC was leaned over, the Magna was > just getting blown off the road. > > I think, like the tar snakes, unless you've done it a lot, crosswinds on > the PC give you the -feeling- that the bike is out of control even though > it really isn't. > > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:31:13 EDT Subject: PC800: Drivers Back rest To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has anyone tried to put a Utopia "built-in driver backrest" on a corbin seat ??? I am asking Utopia and Corbin by e-mail thier thoughts, but would like to know if anyone has tried before. Thanks and Ride safe & often JIM T 1996 PC 800 39000 K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:38:01 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage >I'm reasonably certian the final correct word in full time pressure >gauges for tire pressure will involve optics and electricity. > >So whatsa matter Betty Lise Anderson, you waiting on a grant or >something? If you are taking all this time off shortly to work in the >lab then here is the perfect excuse to take your PC into the lab too. Huh, what? I just came out of the lab... geez, the lights hurt my eyes out here. Now, what did I miss? An optical tire gauge... I wonder if the National Science Foundation will go for it? I have a buddy in Mechanical engineering who works on optical sensors for combustion in car engines...maybe I could get her interested in motorcycles.... Betty Lise Anderson Dept. Of Electrical Engineering The Ohio State University 205 Dreese Lab 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus OH check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: "Thomas J. Phelps" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:18:42 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Wanted: 1996 PC800 >>looking for a new/used one. He would prefer the 96 model, but is also interested in the 97 thru 99 models. He was >>going to buy a new 2000 model but Honda is not selling them to the States this year. There's no '99 model either. You'll be hard pressed to find a new one now. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:30:07 -0400 Emile wrote: >>Doug gave a pretty good comparison, but he failed to notice you wanted >>to purchase a second bike. I'm surprised to see that you apperently don't Umm, no I didn't. I, like you, can't understand wanting a PC for "long distance travelling" when he already has a Concourse. The only improvement bike in the same vein would be the ST or a BMW. The PC is a very smooth, very refined ride, but it needs longer legs . . an "overdrive", if you will, if the engine could handle it. Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: cen13504 , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:25:10 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: vacuum Kenneth: >>My PC finally let me down. I scheduled a ride with a group of friends >>for this past Sun afternoon. I got up early to clean the bike and to >>get organized. The bike ran well around the neighbourhood before >>church. Upon returning I geared up and climbed on the bike. IT WOULD >>OT start. As my blood pressure rose and the battery died, I had to >>call and cancel the ride, while taking a good hounding about getting a >>real motorcycle. Ahhh I would gladly trade my running, '98 PC for one that had painted lowers, auto-cancelling signals, and cute, petite little skirt around the front tire. I couldn't resist after your little dig the other day. I'm real scum, kicking a man while he's already down. Oh, by the way, HOW ABOUT THAT CRIMSON TIDE?!?!?!? ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "William Drake" , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss modulator Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:59:22 -0700 I installed the Starburst this weekend, as well as the original Hondaline standard-height windscreen. Both look and work great. The Starburst unit is about 3"x3"x1" and is installed in the left fairing with double-stick scotch foam tape I got at Home Depot. Installation was easy, and it works as advertised. I didn't have a good way to hook up the horn feature (they only include 1 connector that I used for the power supply), so I guess I will try that when I get air horns? ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group Thousand Oaks, CA (805) 370-1474 tpaxman@algcorp.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: William Drake To: PC800 Rider Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss modulator > Just reading your emails, just wondering which one did you guys install. > > I'm considering the Starburst Modulator (the expensive one) that is > supposed to > just plug into the back of the headlight. > > Was wondering if this is the one you had and if it really fit in there or > if I would > need to hide it somewhere else on the bike. > > Thanks in advance > > Bill Drake > Bolingbrook, IL > '97 PC800 > PCOC/PCOG > HRCA > AMA > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:00:10 +0100 Sometimes it is possible to observe and anticipate where the gust or change in the strength of the crosswind would be. Look out for changes in landscape, buildings, woods, coming out of a tunnel or cutting, large vehicles passing, etc. Job, England ---------- > Barrett, Chris wrote: > To: 'Daniel MacKay' ; 'PC800' > Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Cross wind > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 2:51 PM > > I think one of my main problems is that I tend to panic a bit when the > wind is gusting. With a steady crosswind I don't really mind it too > much. Its when your suddenly sliding over a lane that my heart starts > thumping. > > Your right, though - the more you do it, the easier it is. I certainly > handle it better then when I first started riding. > > Take care, > > Chris Barrett > Columbus, Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Daniel MacKay > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:24 AM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Cross wind > > > I love driving in high winds, I love the feeling of the bike being blown > out from under me and automatically countering. > > But my partner, now driving a PC, like you, is terrified of crosswind > even > though he hasn't ever had a bad experience on the PC. > > I remember one ride a few years ago, he was on his Magna V30 and we were > driving in high crosswinds, and my PC was leaned WAY over countering the > wind, and the Magna wasn't, and while the PC was leaned over, the Magna > was > just getting blown off the road. > > I think, like the tar snakes, unless you've done it a lot, crosswinds on > the PC give you the -feeling- that the bike is out of control even > though > it really isn't. > > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:06:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Drivers Back rest Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:08:36 -0500 IMHO, The Utopia backrest (which I have) goes vertically down through the rear seat at the same place the adjustable back on the Corbin goes through the rear seat horizontally. I know to never say never so the only way I can see it working would be to cut the Utopia backrest bracket off and weld it to the Corbin slider just behind the Corbin backrest. It would work for short folks but would keep the backrest from going all the way back like a taller rider would have to have. That problem could be minimized by bending the Utopia backrest vertical bar in a bit of an S shape so that it could be welded to the Corbin slider directly behind the Corbin backrest. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 11:31 AM Subject: PC800: Drivers Back rest > Has anyone tried to put a Utopia "built-in driver backrest" on a corbin seat > ??? I am asking Utopia and Corbin by e-mail thier thoughts, but would like to > know if anyone has tried before. > > Thanks and Ride safe & often > JIM T > 1996 PC 800 > 39000 K > Givi E460 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:44:42 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: touch up paint Hi, PC people, I decided to touch up some of the scratches and dings on my PC (I have the candy glory red one). I used Official Honda Touch Up Paint Of the Correct Color Code. (Thanks, Rich Fenwick!) But. It looks like hell. I put on three layers (I know those candy color have to be built up) but it looks really orange (not as orange as the magna red, but definitelky orangey). I am very, very sorry I did it. The touchups look worse than the scratches did. Also, they say to build up layers until it's flush with the surface, but the viscosity and surface tension make all the repairs higher than the surrounding surface. So now I have a seriously ugly and bumpy bike. I do not blame anyone- I was sure that if I had the correct paint it could only look better than those high-contrast white scratches and dings but I was wrong. The orange shows up just as much and it's bumpy too, so looks like kids did it. I even used a very, very fine detail brush, sable, in fact. Yes, I did shake the paint. Lots. I am bummed. I made a scuff kit out of that 3M Scuff Kit Stuff, and was going to put it on to protect the bikes from further scratches. This only relates to the current problem because that 3M stuff is expensive as all get-out and if I'm going to fix or replace the panels, I hate to lose a big piece of the stuff. I am also on the fence as to whether the scuff kit will make the bike look better or make it look dorky. I made my own patterns, and planned a lot of scuff stuff- side panels, corner of trunk, front of crash bar coveres where my boots hit, ducktail, side below passeneger seat where I push with my leg to stand the bike up before putting it on the center stand. Chuck Chiodini, are you out there? When you fix scratches and dings, do you repaint the whole panel? Would you, in a hypothethcial non-committal way, be able to undo the damage I did? I am on the fence as to whether to have Chuck repair these panels over the winter or just buy new ones. Note that I could have lived with some of these scratches, before, but now I can't. Ugh. Learn from my mistake. Betty Lise Anderson Dept. Of Electrical Engineering The Ohio State University 205 Dreese Lab 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus OH check out the cool zip code 43210 http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:59:03 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 10:01:13 AM Central Daylight Time, spain@ugsolutions.com writes: > the white in the > lettering wears off. Never too much TLC for a PC! My lettering is doing the same. I was thinking about getting some Testors model paint and a very fine brush and trying my luck, I guess just to see if I can. Not really to the point of actually doing it yet though! Alan in Houston 89' PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:28:21 -0500 To: Betty Lise Anderson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint *SIGH* I was afraid that this would happen. Yes, I used this paint myself on a scratch and had the same result. On small marks (like rock chips) it looks OK, but something about a scratch that makes the stuff look orange. (I now have an "orange" scratch on my PC also...) After the looks of the one, I stopped. I used the grey paint right after I got it, but just finally used the Red on Friday night (before the show...) I could not be any happier with the Grey touch up, I thought it matched great... But the red??? I don't see how this paint could have been the wrong stuff, but I'll check again with my dealer anyway. The numbers all match up. Maybe there is an "undercoat" or an "overcoat" that no one ever told me about...??? The Color-Rite paint is a 2 part product for the Red, and it is too dark; and their Silver paint had a definite Blueish hue to it. The strange part is to hold the glass bottle up against the paint, it comes really close to matching. But that all changes when it is applied to a scratch... I don't know. I'm miffed about this too. My apologies to Betty and everyone else. If I would have known about this, I would have never ordered the stuff.... As the saying goes "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"... (ACK!) Maybe Chuck can shed some light onto this and sell us little bottles of the Red that he uses???? Again... My apologies to all. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles At 01:44 PM 10/04/1999 -0400, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: > >Hi, PC people, > >I decided to touch up some of the scratches and dings on my PC (I have the >candy glory red one). I used Official Honda Touch Up Paint Of the Correct >Color Code. (Thanks, Rich Fenwick!) > >But. It looks like hell. I put on three layers (I know those candy color >have to be built up) but it looks really orange (not as orange as the magna >red, but definitelky orangey). I am very, very sorry I did it. The touchups >look worse than the scratches did. Also, they say to build up layers until >it's flush with the surface, but the viscosity and surface tension make all >the repairs higher than the surrounding surface. So now I have a seriously >ugly and bumpy bike. I do not blame anyone- I was sure that if I had the >correct paint it could only look better than those high-contrast white >scratches and dings but I was wrong. The orange shows up just as much and >it's bumpy too, so looks like kids did it. I even used a very, very fine >detail brush, sable, in fact. Yes, I did shake the paint. Lots. > >I am bummed. I made a scuff kit out of that 3M Scuff Kit Stuff, and was >going to put it on to protect the bikes from further scratches. This only >relates to the current problem because that 3M stuff is expensive as all >get-out and if I'm going to fix or replace the panels, I hate to lose a big >piece of the stuff. I am also on the fence as to whether the scuff kit will >make the bike look better or make it look dorky. I made my own patterns, >and planned a lot of scuff stuff- side panels, corner of trunk, front of >crash bar coveres where my boots hit, ducktail, side below passeneger seat >where I push with my leg to stand the bike up before putting it on the >center stand. > >Chuck Chiodini, are you out there? When you fix scratches and dings, do you >repaint the whole panel? Would you, in a hypothethcial non-committal way, >be able to undo the damage I did? I am on the fence as to whether to have >Chuck repair these panels over the winter or just buy new ones. Note that I >could have lived with some of these scratches, before, but now I can't. > >Ugh. Learn from my mistake. > >Betty Lise Anderson >Dept. Of Electrical Engineering >The Ohio State University >205 Dreese Lab 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus OH check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Betty Lise Anderson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:32:46 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint Betty: >>I decided to touch up some of the scratches and dings on my PC (I have the Sorry about your snafu. I've had similar experience with touchup paint, just not on my PC. Needless to say, I will NOT use touchup paint again, unless I fear rust (not an issue with the plastic), or if it is an inconspicuous place. Definitely not on a broad swatch of paint, like a hood or fender or just about any piece of tupperware on the PC. You mentioned replacing panels: I hear that this is very, very expensive, that the bike is pretty much totaled for insurance purposes when a lot of damage occurs to the plastic (even if everything underneath is OK). I think your best bet would be to take ALL the plastic off and have it repainted. That would be bitchin', 'cause you could get any color you want! Not that you'd want Pearl White, or boring black, or the candy glory you already have. You could have it Magna red! Seriously, if you got the whole thing painted, I bet it wouldn't be that expensive. While you're at it, get the whole thing painted one color, or go for some whacky color scheme like we saw in Marysville (the green and white '56 chevy look). And what happened to Ohio State this weekend? Roll Tide! Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'dwilkers@us.ibm.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: RE: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:59:42 -0400 dwilkers@us.ibm.com said: << The only improvement bike in the same vein would be the ST or a BMW.>> Actually, I would put my new mount, the Triumph Trophy 1200 ahead of both of these for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that it costs less than either - but provides more horsepower and torque than anything BMW or Honda has in the sport touring category. It is too bad more people haven't taken one out for a test ride. As for the PC, well, I would have to agree with Tim Davies - It is more than sufficient for a long haul. My only complaint is a problem with my sciatic nerve due to my knees being spread too far apart. Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:24:50 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: selling my beautiful bmer i almost went to the dark side but saved myself and am wlling to let go of my beautiful BMW K-1 I HAVE A NEW VALKYRIE COMIN IN THIS WEEK I AM WILLING TO SEEL MY BEAUTIFUL 1992 bmw k-1 royal blue with silvr wheels.... 5000 original miles in mint condition... special bike for a speial person seeking the ultimate sport touring bike... i am original owner but dont ride !!! includes soft luggage and extra nose fairing if interestd give me shout joel kasof cupertino calif (408-257-8934 presently riding 99 aspenade(black beauty) 98 pc (with wong wing) 98 helix scoot( twin turbos on order) 92 bmw k-1 (looking for new owner) 99 valkyrie on its way from torrance calif gwrra 121491 hrca 111485 scoot-tours 2-99 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:35:45 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Oil change techniques Will Edwards wrote: > I changefilters first, so I can drop it into a empty pan without > splashing oil around, then put the bike on the center stand and > change the oil. Do I understand this correctly? If you have the PC on the sidestand no oil will flow out when the oil filter is removed? How do you prevent dirty oil from flowing back into the fresh filter when you put the bike up on the centerstand? I'm intrigued. BTW, the last 3 times I've changed the oil on my bike I've been able to remove the filter with my hand, no tools required! Remember the oil filter goes only hand tight, don't use a wrench. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:29 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint Doug Wilkerson busts my chops: >I think your best bet would be to take ALL the plastic off and have it >repainted. That would be bitchin', 'cause you could get any color you want! >Not that you'd want Pearl White, or boring black, or the candy glory you >already >have. You could have it Magna red! Yucko! How about purple? How about hot pink! How about purple on top with flouresent daygo pink on the bottom! HEy, this has potential...I defy traffic not to notice me. Or, I could paint it infrared and make my bike invisible! Not too safe, but very cool. >Seriously, if you got the whole thing painted, I bet it wouldn't be that >expensive. While you're at it, get the whole thing painted one color, or >go for >some whacky color scheme like we saw in Marysville (the green and white '56 >chevy look). Has potnetial... >And what happened to Ohio State this weekend? Roll Tide! I think I hear my mother calling...Gee, darn, no time to chat. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:43:52 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives "Barrett, Chris" wrote: > Actually, I would put my new mount, the Triumph Trophy 1200 ahead of... > It is too bad more people haven't taken one out for a test ride. I do like the Trophy, in both 900 and 1200 guise, but unless they design it with a shaft drive, thanks but no thanks. Can't wait to see if Moto Guzzi brings out their Sport-Tourer. Won't be getting rid of my PC anytime soon tho... -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:47:49 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: touch up paint Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >Or, I could paint it infrared and make my bike > invisible! Not too safe, but very cool. Ewww... Your bike would become the hot spot (Ha! a pun!) for all the reptiles in a 3 mile radius. Then you'd wonder what that "rattling" sound was coming from the engine. :) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:53:23 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint Rich, Rich, Rich, How in the world can you be reponsible for this? It was a GEEEnius idea. I still think so, about the gray. I wanted the honda paint, and the numbers DO match. You just made it convenient for me to get something I wanted. I was wrong about wanting it is all. :-) My husband says, the candy colors are really hard to duplicate. Some of them get their color by spraying over a white base, some from spraying over a gold base. Candy Glory Red is one that they spray over a gold-colored base, I believe. I knew this going in, so I wasn't expecting a dead match, since the scratches were white. I'm also glad my husband Bill didn't try this on his ST (which is the same color- we look so cute going down the highway). You think I'm possessed about the looks of MY bike... ANd I beleive you about the gray. I wouldn't hesitate to use that. Somethign about reds, though... Actually, I'm glad you posted so I know I'm not the only one. >I was afraid that this would happen. Yes, I used this paint myself on a >scratch and had the same result. On small marks (like rock chips) it looks >OK, but something about a scratch that makes the stuff look orange. (I now >have an "orange" scratch on my PC also...) After the looks of the one, I >stopped. I used the grey paint right after I got it, but just finally used >the Red on Friday night (before the show...) > >I could not be any happier with the Grey touch up, I thought it matched >great... But the red??? I don't see how this paint could have been the >wrong stuff, but I'll check again with my dealer anyway. The numbers all >match up. Maybe there is an "undercoat" or an "overcoat" that no one ever >told me about...??? The Color-Rite paint is a 2 part product for the Red, >and it is too dark; and their Silver paint had a definite Blueish hue to it. > >The strange part is to hold the glass bottle up against the paint, it comes >really close to matching. But that all changes when it is applied to a >scratch... > >I don't know. I'm miffed about this too. My apologies to Betty and >everyone else. If I would have known about this, I would have never >ordered the stuff.... As the saying goes "The road to hell is paved with >good intentions"... (ACK!) > >Maybe Chuck can shed some light onto this and sell us little bottles of the >Red that he uses???? > >Again... My apologies to all. > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles > > > > >At 01:44 PM 10/04/1999 -0400, Betty Lise Anderson wrote: >> >>Hi, PC people, >> >>I decided to touch up some of the scratches and dings on my PC (I have the >>candy glory red one). I used Official Honda Touch Up Paint Of the Correct >>Color Code. (Thanks, Rich Fenwick!) >> >>But. It looks like hell. I put on three layers (I know those candy color >>have to be built up) but it looks really orange (not as orange as the magna >>red, but definitelky orangey). I am very, very sorry I did it. The touchups >>look worse than the scratches did. Also, they say to build up layers until >>it's flush with the surface, but the viscosity and surface tension make all >>the repairs higher than the surrounding surface. So now I have a seriously >>ugly and bumpy bike. I do not blame anyone- I was sure that if I had the >>correct paint it could only look better than those high-contrast white >>scratches and dings but I was wrong. The orange shows up just as much and >>it's bumpy too, so looks like kids did it. I even used a very, very fine >>detail brush, sable, in fact. Yes, I did shake the paint. Lots. >> >>I am bummed. I made a scuff kit out of that 3M Scuff Kit Stuff, and was >>going to put it on to protect the bikes from further scratches. This only >>relates to the current problem because that 3M stuff is expensive as all >>get-out and if I'm going to fix or replace the panels, I hate to lose a big >>piece of the stuff. I am also on the fence as to whether the scuff kit will >>make the bike look better or make it look dorky. I made my own patterns, >>and planned a lot of scuff stuff- side panels, corner of trunk, front of >>crash bar coveres where my boots hit, ducktail, side below passeneger seat >>where I push with my leg to stand the bike up before putting it on the >>center stand. >> >>Chuck Chiodini, are you out there? When you fix scratches and dings, do you >>repaint the whole panel? Would you, in a hypothethcial non-committal way, >>be able to undo the damage I did? I am on the fence as to whether to have >>Chuck repair these panels over the winter or just buy new ones. Note that I >>could have lived with some of these scratches, before, but now I can't. >> >>Ugh. Learn from my mistake. >> >>Betty Lise Anderson >>Dept. Of Electrical Engineering >>The Ohio State University >>205 Dreese Lab 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus OH check out the cool zip code 43210 >>http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:52:05 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:39:24 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: PC800: 1993 BMW brochure To: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Since so many people have been talking about BMWs in recent posts (in whatever tone of voice), I am fearful that I might go over to the dark side myself. To avoid that, I am offering to the first lister who wants it a 1993 BMW brochure so that I am rid of it and the temptation. Actually, it isn't even a brochure. It is a blurb with a whole bunch of roughly 7x10" color pictures, suitable for framing if you want to. It is best described as fancy and expensive looking. I will mail it gratis to the first requester. Just reply to me by e-mail with a street address. --David. -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-4688 JO 402A Fax: 901 678-5367 Academic Transfer and Articulation E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu University of Memphis Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:13:52 -0500 To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" " From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Trophy 1200 The Honda dealer that I purchased my PC from also had a 1999 Trophy 1200 on the showroom floor. I must say... What a tempting machine. I would be just as tempted by the Trophy as I would be an ST, and maybe a little more with the Trophy. They still have it, are asking $10,500 for it (a new 1999) and will ship it anywhere in the US free. I ought to run over there and ride it... :-) As it goes.... If I only had the $$$$$. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles At 02:59 PM 10/04/1999 -0400, Barrett, Chris wrote: >dwilkers@us.ibm.com said: > ><< The only improvement bike >in the same vein would be the ST or a BMW.>> > >Actually, I would put my new mount, the Triumph Trophy 1200 ahead of >both of these for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that >it costs less than either - but provides more horsepower and torque than >anything BMW or Honda has in the sport touring category. >It is too bad more people haven't taken one out for a test ride. > >As for the PC, well, I would have to agree with Tim Davies - It is more >than sufficient for a long haul. My only complaint is a problem with my >sciatic nerve due to my knees being spread too far apart. > >Chris Barrett >Columbus, Ohio > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:29:29 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: To: cbarrett@ocsea.org Cc: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cbarrett@ocsea.org writes: >As for the PC, well, I would have to agree with Tim Davies - It is >more >than sufficient for a long haul. My only complaint is a problem >with my >sciatic nerve due to my knees being spread too far apart. > >Chris Barrett >Columbus, Ohio WOW, someone agrees with me about something! That made my week. I'll take the rest of it off so by Friday I can still be ahead:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" To: PC800 Listserver Subject: PC800: 3920 Miles in Four Days!! (Very Long) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:39:06 -0700 Hi Coasters, Sorry to get anyone excited about me riding 1000 miles a day for four days: I completed the first half of this journey in the back of an MD80 and a DC9. But I did do an Iron Butt! This is a ride report for my trip to Cincinnati to pick up Ann Reid's newly purchased (and sight-unseen) 1990 Pacific Coast. I don't know where Ann heard about this bike for sale, but for an advertised $2350, she felt she could not pass up an opportunity to have a "spare". I think her intention is to have a PC to ride while the Ghost is down for plastic mending and also for out-of-town visitors to hit the mountain twisties north of Phoenix. While at a rally in Branson, Missouri earlier this year, Ann had made friends with Ron Cawein. Since Ron lives in Cincinnati, Ann asked him to get the best deal he could on the bike and then get it ready to ride to Phoenix. Ron gladly volunteered his time, talked the seller down to $2200, had the local Honda dealer put on two new Dunlops, and parked it in his garage while waiting on my arrival. What a great friend to have! Ann got this PC fairly cheap mainly because its appearance is a little rough. The wheels have light to medium corrosion (no deep pitting) and the paint is badly faded in areas most often exposed to the sun. But that was all I or Ron could find wrong with it. Considering it has a new Clearview (standard height), the Hondaline/Kenwood radio, passenger backrest, and recent thorough servicing, I know she got a good deal. The trip: At way-too-early Friday morning, 24th September Ann drives me to the airport and walks me to the TWA gate for an 07:00 flight to St. Louis. From there I board a DC9 for Cincinnati. An uneventful trip except I had forgotten my earplugs. Being in the back of this aircraft can be really annoying, especially if the engine sync is not working. Probably better than a turboprop, though. Ron meets me at 15:30 and drives me to his house on the north side of Cincinnati. The international airport (CVG) for Cincinnati, Ohio is actually in Covington, Kentucky which is at least an hour drive for Ron. After arriving at his house, I check the new machine out and am pleasantly surprised to see it is all ready for a long trip. Even had the original toolkit and a shop manual! Ron's garage had four other motorcycles in it: GL1500 SE and Valkyrie (his) and GL1200 and 1989 PC. The last two machines belong to Karen, Ron's girlfriend. She is so tall she barely fits her PC but she says she loves it anyway. That evening, we all ride to a Honda dealer's appreciation dinner in Middletown, Ohio about 20 miles away. I quickly realize the radio has great reception but is inaudible at highway speeds. Oh well. I had brought my portable CD player, 48 CDs, and my new Koss "The Plug" earphones anyway. The dealership's parking lot was about 99% Gold Wings, with one faded red PC parked in the middle. A friendlier bunch of folks I think I have never met. Free beer, dogs, burgers, and lot of hugs. After the dinner, Ron, Karen , and I ride back to their house, get in her cage (Honda Accord) and go to pick up his new toy. A 1999 H-D Ultra Classic. Some poor fellow put 3000 miles on it before losing his job. He had also put a set of Kerker exhaust pipes on it. A really pretty deep green color but between the air-cooled engine and all that noise, I wouldn't have it. So after a very full day, I hit the hay about 00:30 EDT. Since my internal clock thinks it is only 21:30 (Phoenix is always on MST), I don't get to sleep until 02:30. Which means I started Saturday with three hours sleep. But I had to get up by 05:30 because I wanted to arrive at Dr. Cled Click's home in Amarillo, Texas before midnight. He had graciously offered me a place to sleepover Saturday night and I was determined to avoid inconveniencing him or his wife Rita. After a quick shower and good-byes to Ron and Karen, I head for my starting point: the nearest gas station. The Iron Butt rules require witnesses for the start (Ron & Karen)and end (Dr. Click) of the ride along with fuel receipts showing the time and date. I get off to a bad start because the Shell station receipt has date but no time. I thought this would be crucial, so I had the attendant mark it along with his initials. I sure would hate to miss it on a technicality! Riding from Cincinnati to Indianapolis by the light of a very full moon was exhilarating. Especially as I got away from the city and the temperature dropped ALOT and I suddenly remembered my Knox body-armor long underwear and winter gloves were still in the trunk and not on my body where I needed them. Brrr. I toughed it out until the next fuel stop where I was shaking with hypothermia. I knew better than this because I used to live in this part of the country (Columbus) and I knew what wind-chill can do. Leaving Indy, the sun was coming up and I was feeling toasty in my more appropriate under and outer-wear. From here on it was a simple matter of 75 to 85 mph, as quick as possible stops for fuel, getting dated receipts, logging each stop, and watching the road signs. At 23:45 CDT, I parked in the Click's driveway. According to my clock, 18 hours and according to Rand McNally, 1127 miles. Not bad considering I stopped for fuel every two hours or less, was deluged with rain for two hours (Tulsa was almost underwater), and did not drive as if I really wanted a speeding ticket (which I did not get). I did run out of fuel once, though. Between Joplin, Missouri and Tulsa, Oklahoma there were very strong headwinds from an approaching thunderstorm (the one that tried to drown me and most of Tulsa). The winds coupled with my 85 mph speed caused the PC's engine to unexpectedly get very quiet at 148 miles on the odometer. Luckily, I was carrying a spare gallon in the trunk. This gave me an opportunity to don my rain gear early so I never got even a little bit damp. In order to avoid having to stop for food, I ate while riding. I had purchased a box of twelve packages of peanut butter and crackers, which were put together like Oreo cookies, six to a package. At each fuel stop, I would get two packages (twelve peanut butter & cracker mouthfuls) and tear open the cellophane just enough so I wouldn't have to struggle with this while moving down the road. Since I was wearing a full-face helmet, I could only eat what I could squeeze in between my chin and the helmet. I also brought along a bag of wintergreen mints (for dessert). To wash all this dry food down, I had a Camelback full of water. For those who don't know, this is basically a vinyl bladder with a drinking hose held inside an insulated knapsack. The bladder strapped to my back and the end of the drinking hose was clipped to one of the straps near my head. A very convenient way of staying hydrated. My thanks to Steve Wilson for his inspiring "Stay in the Saddle, Stay in the Saddle, Stay in the Saddle"! Before I left, I printed this in big, red letters and placed it under the map window of my PC Glovebox (Neil Thompson's creation). Thanks to Ann Reid for loaning me her tank bag, gaiters (rain gear for feet and ankles), helping me prepare maps with the route highlighted and folded *just right*, and for the opportunity to get my Iron Butt award. And a big thank you to Cled and Rita Click who unexpectedly and generously offered their home as a crashpad complete with a private bath, good coffee, and conversation. I had never met the Clicks until I rang their doorbell at a quarter 'til midnight on a Saturday night. I hadn't even spoken with either of them until I was leaving Oklahoma City, when I called to let them know I was on schedule. Amazingly trusting people. On the other hand, I AM riding a Pacific Coast! The remainder of the ride: After six hours of rock-like sleep, I left the Click residence, had a great steak & eggs meal at the nearby Waffle House, and headed for Albuquerque, New Mexico. While stopping for fuel at Tucumcari, NM, I realized I had a good chance of completing the next Iron Butt level, which is 1500 miles in 36 hours and is called the Bun Burner. I had managed to do the SaddleSore (1000 miles in 24 hours) so could just 500 more be too difficult? I finished the rest of the miles to Albuquerque doing between 85 and 95 mph while battling some very strong crosswinds. It seemed the faster I rode, the less blown around I became. Could the gyroscopic effect of the spinning wheels be that strong? Or is it the great aerodynamics of the PC? Maybe both? In any case, I was very glad the windshield was the standard height because I remembered Minerva, with her +5 inch screen, seemed much more susceptible to winds like these. At Albuquerque I rendezvoused with Ann, who was staying with her friend, Karla, while waiting for my arrival. We checked the official mileage maps and determined a run to Santa Fe (59 miles) and back would give me just over 1500 miles and I had about three hours left. I think we made it there and back in about half that time. I saw 110 and still rising on my speedo and Ann said hers read 115 while she was trying to catch up. Pretty amazing for motorcycles with 50,000 miles at 5,000 altitude. At least I was impressed. After a relaxing evening at Karla's (she has a huge heated swimming pool), Ann and I headed for Phoenix via Holbrook, AZ, the Painted Desert and Petrified Forest National Park. From there to Phoenix are some very fun and fast mountain highways. Most curves are marked at 45 and 50 mph. We were sweeping around them between 75 and 80, downhill, and feeling we could go even faster if we wanted to push the cornering limits. I felt my right boot drag once so I knew I needed to either be more careful where I placed my feet or slow down. I moved the foot inboard a bit and continued having fun. A couple times the road became somewhat lumpy, probably due to frost heaves. On these corners I had to slow down because the bike would not hold a steady line as the back end rose and fell on the bumps. I think better shocks would help this. Overall, I had an excellent weekend, met some great people, saw some wonderful scenery, improved my riding confidence tremendously, and earned that Iron Butt award. And Ann now has her new motorcycle (she named it Red Cloud). What a deal! David E Smith Phoenix 1998 PC800 "Minerva" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 4.04 Jul 21 1999 18:33:18) with SMTP id FJ3IWA03.Z26; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:43:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jruby@gci.net (josephine ruby) To: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: selling my beautiful bmer Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:43:21 -0800 (AKDT) All right! Another Valk owner...which one did you get? Jo Ruby (still lurking around) former PC owner 1997 Valkyrie tourer MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof) wrote: > > >i almost went to the dark side but saved myself and am wlling to let go >of my beautiful BMW K-1 > >I HAVE A NEW VALKYRIE COMIN IN THIS WEEK > >I AM WILLING TO SEEL MY BEAUTIFUL 1992 bmw k-1 royal blue with silvr >wheels.... > >5000 original miles in mint condition... > >special bike for a speial person seeking the ultimate sport touring >bike... i am original owner but dont ride !!! > >includes soft luggage and extra nose fairing > > >if interestd give me shout > > >joel kasof >cupertino calif (408-257-8934 > >presently riding > >99 aspenade(black beauty) >98 pc (with wong wing) >98 helix scoot( twin turbos on order) >92 bmw k-1 (looking for new owner) > >99 valkyrie on its way from torrance calif > >gwrra 121491 >hrca 111485 >scoot-tours 2-99 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:58:42 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: 3920 Miles in Four Days!! (Very Long) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 3:42:16 PM Central Daylight Time, David.E.Smith@CAS.Honeywell.com writes: > Probably better than a > turboprop, though. Boy, can I testify to that! Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:58:02 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Introduction To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: jgruver@kpmg.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: >There are those on this list (Tim Davies comes to mind) who wander >happily all >over the country on their PC without any complaints. I'm sure >they'll take >issue with my gripes. > >I'm just calling it like I see it. > >Doug Wilkerson > >'98 PC800 Doug, We who know you, love your gripes. They are yours to have and to hold for as long as you like:-) James, I had a Kawasaki Concours (owned it for 4 years) prior to my Honda Pacific Coast and I much prefer my Pacific Coast. The seat shape is more comfortable (I made it better with a Corbin though), ride has much, much less vibration (usually referred to as buzzy on the Concours) and it's cheaper to run (no valve adjustments). The only thing I really miss is the larger fuel tank and the clock, but at over $2,000 less in price, NEW, I can live without these items. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <37F90378.2EB78AF@topcat.sfos.uaf.edu> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:14:34 -0400 To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Cc: PC800 At 11:43 AM -0800 10/4/99, Juan A. Goula wrote: > Can't wait to see if Moto Guzzi >brings out their Sport-Tourer. I know how you feel. I saw a picture of it a few months ago, and it looks pretty neat. I don't have a Moto Guzzi dealer here in town, but I would be tempted none the less. It has a 'uniqueness' about it that makes it appealing to me. ride safe... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: Re: PC800: Re: MSC - ERC To: libssd@emory.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I did not find the pipes two loud on the harleys that attended. They were all new, ridden by yuppies and none of them had extra loud straight pipes. Bob --- Selden Deemer wrote: > Bob Broeking writes: > > > Took the 1 day experienced riders course today at the loacl virginia > > community college. It was a long day (4 hours classroom, and 5 hours > > range time) but it was well spent.... The harly's were loud as usual. > > Recommend the course, and as you know, HRCA pays for it each year so > > its free! > > Maybe ERC practice varies state to state. For the course I took last > month, we were told during pre-registration that loud pipes would not > be tolerated. Before going on to the range, all the bikes were inspected, > and three were disqualified because of loud pipes, one more for a worn > front tire. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ===== Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:32:58 -0400 (EDT) To: "PC800" From: Ron Pacholec Subject: PC800: Replace Seat and Touch Up At 1:32 PM -0400 10/4/99, dwilkers@us.ibm.com is rumored to have typed: > I think your best bet would be to take ALL the plastic off and have it > repainted. That would be bitchin', 'cause you could get any color you want! > Not that you'd want Pearl White, or boring black, or the candy glory you >already > have. You could have it Magna red! > > Doug Wilkerson Doug, I have a BEAUTIFUL '89 Pearl White that spent near 10 years in the blazing tropic sun of Hawaii. When I wash and wax it people tell me it looks brand new....NO fading or other unsightly blemishes. I have also used some touch up paint on it and while it's not a perfect match, it's not all that bad. Guess that's what happens when you have the "one true" Pacific Coast. But I do have to admit that the seat is getting pretty worn. I'd like to replace it. I know that several people have replaced their seats with Corbin, etc. So if anybody has an extra seat in really good condition that they don't need and are willing to sell, please let me know. I now live in Orange County and I'd like to replace the seat before the winter rains come. Aloha, Ron Ron Pacholec Ron_Pacholec@post.harvard.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:04:17 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:51:37 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: PC800: air horns selection, sources, and installation? To: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Hey listers and listettes-- I am starting to plan winter projects, and one of them is to put air horns on my PC, in addition to the non-air Fiamm horns I put on last winter. I was convinced to do this by a driver on an expressway who was equally convinced that my lane should really be hers and either didn't want to take no for an answer or just plain never saw me. At any rate--since I will retain my diaphragm type Fiamms for less noise, I want to get some very loud air horns. In looking through past posts, I cannot find any clear preference for a given brand or model. So several questions: 1. If any of you have done any comparisons, or even if you haven't but have an opinion, what is the loudest air horn installable on a PC that you know of? 2. Where would I buy your preferred model? I am finding the local selection rather limited and cannot find the Fiamms at all, not even after a web search done in hopes of finding a mail order source for them. 3. My plan is to put the air horn switch by the right grip in the space above the starter button (I believe this is where the headlight on/off switch would be in another culture). Is this feasible or are there alternate suggestions (remembering that I am retaining the stock switch for the diaphragm type horns)? Thanks --David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-4688 JO 402A Fax: 901 678-5367 Academic Transfer and Articulation E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu University of Memphis Home: 901 327-3848 Memphis, TN 38152-6140 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by land.willinet.net with SMTP; 4 Oct 1999 17:14:17 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:14:16 -0500 From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Paint Fading > I have a BEAUTIFUL '89 Pearl White that spent near 10 years in the blazing > tropic sun of Hawaii. When I wash and wax it people tell me it looks brand > new....NO fading or other unsightly blemishes. I have also used some touch > up paint on it and while it's not a perfect match, it's not all that bad. > Guess that's what happens when you have the "one true" Pacific Coast. grin> I think that some years wear better than others. I have seen another '90 PC for sale that vas very sun faded. (It was $1500!). Havn't really seen it happen with any other years. Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Oil change techniques Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:26:34 -0700 Once the filter is removed and the initial oil runs out, no more comes out the filter opening. I just screw a new filter on, then drain the oil out of the slump. Old oil does not run into the new filter. If your worried about it, drain the old oil first then change the filter. To tighten the oil filter, I have always turned it 3/4 turn after the seal makes contact with the base. This applies to both my cars & bikes. Sometimes I can get the old one off with my hand, but usually can not. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Juan A. Goula To: PC800 Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: PC800: Oil change techniques >Will Edwards wrote: >> I changefilters first, so I can drop it into a empty pan without >> splashing oil around, then put the bike on the center stand and >> change the oil. > >Do I understand this correctly? If you have the PC on the sidestand >no oil will flow out when the oil filter is removed? > >How do you prevent dirty oil from flowing back into the fresh filter >when you put the bike up on the centerstand? I'm intrigued. > >BTW, the last 3 times I've changed the oil on my bike I've been able >to remove the filter with my hand, no tools required! >Remember the oil filter goes only hand tight, don't use a wrench. > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula >Fairbanks, Alaska >Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W >"There is only one difference between a non-rider > and me. I am not mad." >(with apologies to Salvador Dalí) >------------------------------------------------- >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks >(907)474-5520 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Introduction Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:31:10 -0700 Those of you who have the Corbin seat: How do you like it? I find I prefer sitting more upright, and that causes me to sit forward on the saddle, on the narrow portion. I noticed the Corbin has a "driver's positioner" that allows support for this; is the seat wider, too? For those of you who are picturing me, wishing for a "wider" seat, I am almost 6' tall and only weigh 210--not overly expansive (I keep telling myself....) I think I want a Corbin for Christmas. ________________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group Thousand Oaks, CA (805) 370-1474 tpaxman@algcorp.com ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 1:58 PM Subject: Re(2): PC800: Introduction > dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: > >There are those on this list (Tim Davies comes to mind) who wander > >happily all > >over the country on their PC without any complaints. I'm sure > >they'll take > >issue with my gripes. > > > >I'm just calling it like I see it. > > > >Doug Wilkerson > > > >'98 PC800 > > > Doug, > > We who know you, love your gripes. They are yours to have and to > hold for as long as you like:-) > > James, > > I had a Kawasaki Concours (owned it for 4 years) prior to my Honda > Pacific Coast and I much prefer my Pacific Coast. The seat shape is > more comfortable (I made it better with a Corbin though), ride has > much, much less vibration (usually referred to as buzzy on the > Concours) and it's cheaper to run (no valve adjustments). The only > thing I really miss is the larger fuel tank and the clock, but at > over $2,000 less in price, NEW, I can live without these items. > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" , "PC800 Listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: 3920 Miles in Four Days!! (Very Long) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:39:54 -0700 Very good ride report, glad to see Ann has a spare bike (jealous I am). Those Iron Butt rides are fun, although some will think we are kind of sick, but to each his own. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:57:05 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives "Barrett, Chris" wrote: > I would still rather have shaft, but having a chain-drive does have a > few advantages, including less weight and better power transmission. > I'm sure I won't be feeling this way the first time I have to replace a > broken chain at the side of the road in the pouring rain.... You know, I hear this comment often, and I can rationalize it as indeed having advantages. But then I started wondering how much _real_ benefit we the majority of riders derive from a chain drive design vs. a shaft drive. Weight savings: How much? 20, 30 lb.? Does it really become an issue on a bike that already weighs 640 lb. with no rider or gear aboard? Would the average rider be able to feel the difference (and by that I mean to really feel it, rather than being a result of mantra brain washing) Do we really push our bikes to 10/10 all the time, where the benefits of lighter weight be realized? Power delivery: The accepted figure of power delivery is currently about 10% sapped by the shaft drive compared to chain, correct? On the PC that would make it about 5 HP. I for one gladly make do without that extra 5 hp in exchange for the reliability, silence and just plain convenience of having one less component I have to worry about while on tour. I think the only benefit I would like is the ability to change the final drive ratio, but in previous experiences this has not worked all that well. If it sounds like I am ranting, I am not. I've owned 5 chain-drive bikes and liked them all, but once I experienced the convenience of shaft drive, it will have to be quite a bike to lure me back to chains. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM5JDHXA; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:22:57 EDT To: reap01@qwestinternet.net, Ron_Pacholec@post.harvard.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, david.e.smith@cas.honeywell.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:17:36 -0700 Subject: PC800: PICK YOUR SEAT CAREFULLY! Ron Pacholec David Smith forwarded your seating request as I'm off-list. I have a "LOANER" seat available. You pay shipping both ways. I had a brand new '89 seat which I sold to Neill Thompson for a little cash and his old '94, 45,000-mile-seat, which is still very serviceable. So, if you'd like to BORROW that seat while yours is being recovered or replaced, I've no problem with that. My '90 PC-AZ, Trusty Rusty Red Cloud, has had its seat recovered and it FEELS & LOOKS GREAT. The gentleman from whom I bot her, sent me the leftover fabric, enuf to recover the passenger seat and/or driver seat whenever necessary. I can also send you a sample of the fabric if you like. If I were you, I'd TRY the Corbin seat FIRST. I did and it did not fit my bod comfortably. However, I know several PCers who love their Corbin Seats. I think they're all guys. Hmmm. Message here?? Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghostly-One '90 PC-AZ Cloudy Red-One Mon. 10.4.99 17:10 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC800-List" Subject: Re: PC800: Winter storage Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:41:11 -0400 Hi Dallas, Winter Storage in MARYLAND? Man, I didn't know you had winter!! Anyway, how long you storing your PC for? 3 months? I personally would = just top the gas tank off and change the oil, but if you want to feel = safe, put the stabilizer in the gas and ride it a little to make sure = the gas gets in the carbs. (don't bother to drain them) . Change the oil = and charge the battery with a 1a or less charger. When you bring her = out, charge the battery, ride a while and change the oil. I don't do any of this, but I ride all year round (if once or twice a = month in Jan and Feb count). Hope this helps, Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Thomason To: PC800-List Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 9:08 PM Subject: PC800: Winter storage =20 =20 =20 For those of you who live in the north. =20 I just got my PC out of the shop for its state safety inspection and = a full maintenance service. =20 Talking with the machanic who did the work, I asked about putting it = up for the winter. He suggested I add a fuel stablizer and completely = fill the gas tank and drain both carbs. He spoke of a drain bolt for = each. The fuel stablizer, he called it Sta-Bil. =20 Any thing else that I can do for winter storage. =20 =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Young" To: "The PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:44:19 -0400 "unsubscribe" pc800 rcy335@cfanet.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Trophy 1200 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:57:20 +0200 Now I'm not sure anymore, gotta look up the test I have laying around, but what I remember about the Trophy test is that it had terrible mileage, a terrible (standard) windscreen and above all, CHAINDRIVE....yuk ! And I have doubts about the reliability of British engines (no offence Brian / Job.. : )). Nah, I think I'll stick with Honda... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick To: <'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'.pc800@hpc.uh.edu.cybercomm.nl> Sent: maandag 4 oktober 1999 22:13 Subject: PC800: Trophy 1200 The Honda dealer that I purchased my PC from also had a 1999 Trophy 1200 on the showroom floor. I must say... What a tempting machine. I would be just as tempted by the Trophy as I would be an ST, and maybe a little more with the Trophy. They still have it, are asking $10,500 for it (a new 1999) and will ship it anywhere in the US free. I ought to run over there and ride it... :-) As it goes.... If I only had the $$$$$. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles At 02:59 PM 10/04/1999 -0400, Barrett, Chris wrote: >dwilkers@us.ibm.com said: > ><< The only improvement bike >in the same vein would be the ST or a BMW.>> > >Actually, I would put my new mount, the Triumph Trophy 1200 ahead of >both of these for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that >it costs less than either - but provides more horsepower and torque than >anything BMW or Honda has in the sport touring category. >It is too bad more people haven't taken one out for a test ride. > >As for the PC, well, I would have to agree with Tim Davies - It is more >than sufficient for a long haul. My only complaint is a problem with my >sciatic nerve due to my knees being spread too far apart. > >Chris Barrett >Columbus, Ohio > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM5MKMMG; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:18:44 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:55:06 -0400 Subject: PC800: Gorilla Glue I will be looking for Gorilla Glue. I bot some dual chemical you mix it stuff for my tabs and it was worthless and I paid a lot for it. Rocky ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:22:16 -0700 When I sold my last chain drive bike, I tossed my garage-housed toilet bowl brush. I remember now how I detested all that cleaning of wheels. Lee Barker -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Juan A. Goula To: PC800 Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 3:59 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives >"Barrett, Chris" wrote: >> I would still rather have shaft, but having a chain-drive does have a >> few advantages, including less weight and better power transmission. >> I'm sure I won't be feeling this way the first time I have to replace a >> broken chain at the side of the road in the pouring rain.... > >You know, I hear this comment often, and I can rationalize it as >indeed having advantages. But then I started wondering how much >_real_ benefit we the majority of riders derive from a chain drive >design vs. a shaft drive. > >Weight savings: How much? 20, 30 lb.? Does it really become an issue >on a bike that already weighs 640 lb. with no rider or gear aboard? >Would the average rider be able to feel the difference (and by that >I mean to really feel it, rather than being a result of mantra brain >washing) Do we really push our bikes to 10/10 all the time, where the >benefits of lighter weight be realized? > >Power delivery: The accepted figure of power delivery is currently about >10% sapped by the shaft drive compared to chain, correct? On the PC that >would make it about 5 HP. I for one gladly make do without that extra 5 hp >in exchange for the reliability, silence and just plain convenience of >having one less component I have to worry about while on tour. > >I think the only benefit I would like is the ability to change the final >drive ratio, but in previous experiences this has not worked all that well. > >If it sounds like I am ranting, I am not. I've owned 5 chain-drive bikes and >liked them all, but once I experienced the convenience of shaft drive, it will >have to be quite a bike to lure me back to chains. > >-- >Juan Antonio Goula >Fairbanks, Alaska >Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W >"There is only one difference between a non-rider > and me. I am not mad." >(with apologies to Salvador Dalí) >------------------------------------------------- >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks >(907)474-5520 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM5MKMJ4; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:18:43 EDT To: pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:54:03 -0400 Subject: PC800: Hi Hi Phil Lewis, You are the guy who traded the PC for the BMW. I see you back on the PC net. Did you sell the BMW and have another PC? Remember you put my fabulous backrest on my PC with Carolyn on your web site. What is new? Still have my 96 PC with a Givi Box on the back. Rocky in VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:32:44 -0400 Subject: Re(2): Re(2): PC800: Introduction To: tpaxman@algcorp.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) tpaxman@algcorp.com writes: >Those of you who have the Corbin seat: How do you like it? I >find I prefer >sitting more upright, and that causes me to sit forward on the >saddle, on >the narrow portion. I noticed the Corbin has a "driver's >positioner" that >allows support for this; is the seat wider, too? > >For those of you who are picturing me, wishing for a "wider" seat, >I am >almost 6' tall and only weigh 210--not overly expansive (I keep >telling >myself....) > >I think I want a Corbin for Christmas. >________________________ >Todd M. Paxman >Ashworth Leininger Group >Thousand Oaks, CA >(805) 370-1474 >tpaxman@algcorp.com I don't know where Corbin is located in California in realation to your location, but a trip to the factory would be worthwhile if they have a driver's seat you can slip on and try. It's a snap to change the drivers seat. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "PC800-List" Subject: PC800: Small cover when traveling Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:25:28 -0400 to All Does anybody own a cover that is designed just to cover the wind shield = and the seat, basically just the top of the PC. I am looking for = something small that I can carry at all times. It would be used for = those overnight rides to keep the due out. =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800, "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:39:18 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction "Barrett, Chris" wrote: > > James, > > I tend to agree with Doug Wilkerson on most of his points. The PC's > power plant does not really seem to be geared for high-speed travel, > although I've managed stints of over 20 hours at about 70 MPH and the PC > has never complained. At the higher speeds, with the tach hovering at > 4500 RPM or higher, gas mileage plummets. For example, I average about > 47.5 MPG at around 60 MPH. At 70 MPH, that drops to about 40 MPG. At > 75 (just 5 mph faster) its down to 35-38 MPG. This wouldn't be a > problem, but the tank only holds 4.2 gallons. To be fair, a great deal > of this loss of mileage is probably the Tall Hondaline windscreen I > have. The PC would be a perfect candidate for a 6th gear. ***** snip ****** Keep in mind that the PC was designed back in '89, mostly for the US market, when the speed limit was 55 mph. At that speed, the tach is below 4K, and it's a very nice cruiser and long distance cruiser. Even at 65 mph, you are still right around 4K. I agree about the lack of a 6th gear, now that the speed limit has gone up to 75 (in some states). Anyone ever try changing out the final gears? Jeffrey King '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Betty Lise Anderson cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage of "Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:38:01 EDT." Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:30:02 -0500 Betty Lise Anderson writes: > > An optical tire gauge... I wonder if the National Science Foundation will > go for it? I have a buddy in Mechanical engineering who works on optical > sensors for combustion in car engines...maybe I could get her interested in > motorcycles.... Motorcycles. Cars. Boats. Airplanes. Ok, probably not boats but boat trailers would apply. There must be some kind of interesting optical property as a fuction of ambient pressure. With all the noise that must be inside a tire rolling down the road one might be able to generate enough electricty to power a transducer by rectifying the output of something like a piezo cell. A spot on the rim could change color or something based on tire pressure. Then a stationary powered sensor could report the results to the dash mounted indicator. Be sure to tune in next week when I invent perpetual motion. Again. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "C. Barrett" To: "'Emile Nossin'" , "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: Trophy 1200 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:38:23 -0700 Importance: Normal Funny Emile, The windscreen is better than the stock PC800 screen and I get about 45 mpg. As for poor british engineering, well, I'll tell you the first time it breaks down. Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Emile Nossin Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 5:57 PM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Trophy 1200 Now I'm not sure anymore, gotta look up the test I have laying around, but what I remember about the Trophy test is that it had terrible mileage, a terrible (standard) windscreen and above all, CHAINDRIVE....yuk ! And I have doubts about the reliability of British engines (no offence Brian / Job.. : )). Nah, I think I'll stick with Honda... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick To: <'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'.pc800@hpc.uh.edu.cybercomm.nl> Sent: maandag 4 oktober 1999 22:13 Subject: PC800: Trophy 1200 The Honda dealer that I purchased my PC from also had a 1999 Trophy 1200 on the showroom floor. I must say... What a tempting machine. I would be just as tempted by the Trophy as I would be an ST, and maybe a little more with the Trophy. They still have it, are asking $10,500 for it (a new 1999) and will ship it anywhere in the US free. I ought to run over there and ride it... :-) As it goes.... If I only had the $$$$$. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,230 miles At 02:59 PM 10/04/1999 -0400, Barrett, Chris wrote: >dwilkers@us.ibm.com said: > ><< The only improvement bike >in the same vein would be the ST or a BMW.>> > >Actually, I would put my new mount, the Triumph Trophy 1200 ahead of >both of these for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that >it costs less than either - but provides more horsepower and torque than >anything BMW or Honda has in the sport touring category. >It is too bad more people haven't taken one out for a test ride. > >As for the PC, well, I would have to agree with Tim Davies - It is more >than sufficient for a long haul. My only complaint is a problem with my >sciatic nerve due to my knees being spread too far apart. > >Chris Barrett >Columbus, Ohio > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.camelot.iolinc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52491U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:47:46 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:48:43 -0400 From: tree@westvirginia.net (Talago, Stan) CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives You forgot one important factor. No gorilla snot to clean off after lubing the chain!!! Stan "Juan A. Goula" wrote: > "Barrett, Chris" wrote: > > I would still rather have shaft, but having a chain-drive does have a > > few advantages, including less weight and better power transmission. > > I'm sure I won't be feeling this way the first time I have to replace a > > broken chain at the side of the road in the pouring rain.... > > You know, I hear this comment often, and I can rationalize it as > indeed having advantages. But then I started wondering how much > _real_ benefit we the majority of riders derive from a chain drive > design vs. a shaft drive. > > Weight savings: How much? 20, 30 lb.? Does it really become an issue > on a bike that already weighs 640 lb. with no rider or gear aboard? > Would the average rider be able to feel the difference (and by that > I mean to really feel it, rather than being a result of mantra brain > washing) Do we really push our bikes to 10/10 all the time, where the > benefits of lighter weight be realized? > > Power delivery: The accepted figure of power delivery is currently about > 10% sapped by the shaft drive compared to chain, correct? On the PC that > would make it about 5 HP. I for one gladly make do without that extra 5 hp > in exchange for the reliability, silence and just plain convenience of > having one less component I have to worry about while on tour. > > I think the only benefit I would like is the ability to change the final > drive ratio, but in previous experiences this has not worked all that well. > > If it sounds like I am ranting, I am not. I've owned 5 chain-drive bikes and > liked them all, but once I experienced the convenience of shaft drive, it will > have to be quite a bike to lure me back to chains. > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > "There is only one difference between a non-rider > and me. I am not mad." > (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) > ------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "cen13504" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: vacuum Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:30:17 -0400 Kenneth, I've never been able to fix one of these things without replacing the rubber diaphragm with a new unit. They're less than $20 and it will probably solve the gas smell problem too. Jim -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cen13504 To: pc list Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:11 AM Subject: PC800: vacuum >List Member: >My PC finally let me down. I scheduled a ride with a group of friends >for this past Sun afternoon. I got up early to clean the bike and to >get organized. The bike ran well around the neighbourhood before >church. Upon returning I geared up and climbed on the bike. IT WOULD >NOT start. As my blood pressure rose and the battery died, I had to >call and cancel the ride, while taking a good hounding about getting a >real motorcycle. Ahhh > >In my search to understand why, I remove the body work to expose the >fuel shut off valve that I had worked on the day before. It was >pumping fuel out the small unhosed vent valve on the bottom of the >piece. I tighten the bolts and still it leaked. >What could cause this problem? >I am 95% sure that I reassembled it correctly. There were only four >parts. >FWI Don't drop the small spring cap when disassembling the vacuum >value. It will magically fall the most inaccessible crevasse deep in the >core of your PC :( > >Input needed. ..... > >Kenneth > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "Dallas Thomason" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Small cover when traveling Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:55:54 -0400 Tour King makes such a cover for the PC and other bikes - it's about $40 = as I recall and stuffs into a little sack about 3" in diameter and 7" = long. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Thomason To: PC800-List Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 8:42 PM Subject: PC800: Small cover when traveling =20 =20 to All =20 Does anybody own a cover that is designed just to cover the wind = shield and the seat, basically just the top of the PC. I am looking for = something small that I can carry at all times. It would be used for = those overnight rides to keep the due out. =20 _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800, "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:02:54 PDT I was thinking about getting some Testors model paint and a very fine brush and trying my luck, I guess just to see if I can. Not really to the point of actually doing it yet though! Alan in Houston wrote the above. Hey Alan, There is an easier way to fill in the letters of the switches than with a tiny brush. Try this: You need fairly thick paint, Testors is fine but it needs to be thick. Dab the paint over the letters and let it get about halfway dry, dampen a soft cloth in paint thinner and when the paint is ready wipe the excess paint off. Make only one swipe, you will leave paint behind but you now have the paint level with the surrounding plastic of the button. Let this dry for a couple minutes and swipe again, this swipe will remove the paint that smeared across the button the first time but will hardly remove any from the letter recesses. Now you can let the paint get good and dry and wipe off the remainder of the smeared paint, if any. The trick to this is not using too much thinner on the cloth, just enough to remove the paint but not enough to thin out the paint remaining in the letters. Dig around the house and find something to practice with first. I filled the little wing on the little aluminum plaque under the key switch with bright red paint using the above method and it worked great. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 5 Oct 1999 02:06:03 UT Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:04:29 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gruver, James J" To: "'Dallas Thomason'" , PC800-List Subject: RE: PC800: Small cover when traveling Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:04:27 -0400 Check out this websight. You'll find what your looking for: (Custom made for the PC) http://www.abilene.com/tourking/ James J. Gruver 1500 National City Center 1900 East Ninth Street Cleveland, OH 44114 (216) 875-8215 Phone (216) 696-7799 Fax JGRUVER@KPMG.COM > -----Original Message----- > From: Dallas Thomason [SMTP:Dallas@US.net] > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:25 PM > To: PC800-List > Subject: PC800: Small cover when traveling > > to All > > Does anybody own a cover that is designed just to cover the wind shield > and the seat, basically just the top of the PC. I am looking for > something small that I can carry at all times. It would be used for those > overnight rides to keep the due out. > _______________ > Dallas Thomason > 1989, PC800, "Perky Pearl" > Silver Spring, MD ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:14:29 -0700 Another trick I used to use when repairing old (70's) computer keyboards that had recessed and painted letters is to use a white grease pencil and fill in the recessed ledgend. Then use a dry cloth and buff off the excess. It lasts suprizingly long and is easily re-touched up. The advantage over paint, is that you don't have to worry about ruining anything with the paint thinner clean-up pass (as described below). Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 12k > ---------- > From: Desmond Cockburn > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:02 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 > > > > > I was thinking about getting some Testors model paint and a very fine brush > and trying my luck, I guess just to see if I can. Not really to the point of > actually doing it yet though! > > Alan in Houston wrote the above. > > Hey Alan, > > There is an easier way to fill in the letters of the switches than with a > tiny brush. Try this: > > You need fairly thick paint, Testors is fine but it needs to be thick. Dab > the paint over the letters and let it get about halfway dry, dampen a soft > cloth in paint thinner and when the paint is ready wipe the excess paint > off. Make only one swipe, you will leave paint behind but you now have the > paint level with the surrounding plastic of the button. Let this dry for a > couple minutes and swipe again, this swipe will remove the paint that > smeared across the button the first time but will hardly remove any from the > letter recesses. Now you can let the paint get good and dry and wipe off > the remainder of the smeared paint, if any. The trick to this is not using > too much thinner on the cloth, just enough to remove the paint but not > enough to thin out the paint remaining in the letters. Dig around the house > and find something to practice with first. > > I filled the little wing on the little aluminum plaque under the key switch > with bright red paint using the above method and it worked great. > > Des,PCOG #53 > 95 PC, Dream Weaver > Okmulgee, Ok. > "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. > It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: fenwick@nn.com, anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:20:47 GMT Rich/Betty Lise and fellow listers: You might be able to use touch-up paint if you have a solid color like the 95-98 Honda Red or 94 Black. Buffing the paint out after it has dried a few days will help the spot repair blend in better. One problem is that the red fades in time and the touch-up might be close but not spot on. Now the bad news...the 89 Pearl White and 90 Candy Glory Red are a three step process; base coat followed by the "candy" or "pearl" followed by a clear coat. Even with computer matched colors, the results might not be perfect due to the settling qualities of the pigments when applied. These are very challenging to re-finish to put it mildly! I have tried doing spot repairs and blending the color with the original but ended up re-painting the entire panel so it would look "factory". I wish I could tell you an easy magic fix but the only way I know to get a satisfactory job on these two colors is to bite the bullet and re-finish the entire panel. That said, it is still better/cheaper in my opinion to re-finish the part than to buy new ones. Case in point, I recently bought some crash bar covers to replace some that couldn't be repaired, the paint finish from Honda was lousy! The clear coat was smooth but the base/color coat was "dimpled" and just looked plain cheap to me. Good enough for crash bar covers but I repainted them anyway. Don't feel bad about poor results with Color-Rite paint, I have had to re-do an entire 89 trunk because the paint didn't match and stayed "gummy" for days. Ever since they "re-formulated" their paint, it hasn't met my expectations (not to mention the high cost!). I have tried working with them as it would be sooooo easy to simply order the proper year color code and start painting but it just isn't like that. Motorcycle people are very picky about color and finish and it just doesn't pay to get it "almost right". The best way I have found is to take the part down and have the color computer matched and hope for the best, sometimes (like in a front fender) you might have to paint all three pieces to get it to look perfect. Will be happy to answer any plastic/paint related questions off list and will post "general interest" replies back to the list to conserve bandwidth. My apologies to all those patiently waiting for me to start fixing plastic but my sprained wrists aren't up to task as yet and I want to maintain my standard of a three day turn-around on parts. Advice is free and easy to give I just can't sand pieces/parts yet (and it's driving me bonkers!!!) Ride like your life depends on it! Chuck Chiodini "Motorcycle Mender" in Heber Springs, Arkansas 89 PC "Scooter" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:31:58 PDT Peter Noeth wrote: >Another trick I used to use when repairing old (70's) computer keyboards >that had recessed and painted letters is to use a white grease pencil and >fill in the recessed ledgend. Then use a dry cloth and buff off the excess. >It lasts suprizingly long and is easily re-touched up. The advantage over >paint, is that you don't have to worry about ruining anything with the >paint thinner clean-up pass. I had not thought about the white grease pencils, this would work also. I have never had much of a problem with paint thinner on plastic as the oil content in most paint thinners is pretty high. However, I may also have just been lucky up to this point. hehe Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" , Subject: PC800: New 1998 PC 800 for sale !!!! Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:34:35 +0200 I found this ad at Cycle Trader Online, 1998 Honda PC800, This red Pacific Coast was 7799, get it now at the chilling fall price. Visit us at www.motomadness.com, $6,999.00, (704) 394-7301 Location: Charlotte, NC E-mail owner at :contactchy@hotmail.com Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: FS:NEW Seat and backrest for 1990 PC !!!! Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:55:21 +0200 All that one can find lurking the Ad. sites : http://ep.com/ep/mi.html?v=1&ad=301367 Classified 301367 Parts for Honda Pacific Coast New Seat and Backrest for PC800 Ad By: Jason (ID 176056) Location: Pottstown PA, Pennsylvania Category: Honda Price: $350 New 2 Piece stock seat and backrest for 1990 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800). taken off my bike when purchased and replaced with Corbin seat. backrest is a seperate piece and will only fit stock seats. color is a medium gray. but no tears or scratches. perfect shape. Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:00:27 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Trophy 1200 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 8:45:10 PM Central Daylight Time, barrett@columbus.rr.com writes: > Funny Emile, The windscreen is better than the stock PC800 screen and I get > about 45 mpg. > > As for poor british engineering, well, I'll tell you the first time it > breaks down. I've only heard good things about these bikes. Even know of someone that sold a VFR to get a Trophy. Alan in Houston 89' PC800 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:06:13 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 9:06:41 PM Central Daylight Time, desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com writes: > Hey Alan, > > There is an easier way to fill in the letters of the switches than with a > tiny brush. Desmond, I should have known that a lister had already gone where no man has gone before! Well, not me anyway. Great tip to spruce up the switches. Thanks! Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:27:33 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives To: greatned@cascade.quik.com, jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/4/99 7:22:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: << When I sold my last chain drive bike, I tossed my garage-housed toilet bowl brush. I remember now how I detested all that cleaning of wheels. >> OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain drive bikes! Let me tell you something, I still have TWO chain drive motorcycles and it is no trouble at all looking after them. I mean, sure you have to check the tension before you go for a ride, and yes, you do have to spray chain lube on them to keep them lubricated. Of course, then you have to clean the wheels afterwards as the lubricant residue slings off, but that is no bother. And it is not that much of a bother getting on your hands and knees peering down the chain to try and see if it is aligned properly. Yes, this usually does mean removing the chain guard, but this usually takes no longer than a half hour or so. And every couple of years or so having to change out the chains and sprockets is not that big a deal, and I am usually out only a couple of hundred bucks when this is done. And the few times that I had to push my bike home because the chain broke was good exercise for me I am sure. So see? Chain drive is cool. If fact, I am seriously thinking of riding one of those bikes again someday. That is, as soon as I can find a new chain for it. Old one slung off down the road last time that I rode it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:42:14 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. colors are orange and black really subtle color combo wnner will win special prize too be announced am limited by calif law to seven letters pls help joel kasof cupertino calif -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 06:01:14 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: Madeleine and Joel Kasof CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie Folks, "666" (6 cylinders, 6 carbs, pure 6) --Ralph Couey Madeleine and Joel Kasof wrote: > > am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. colors > are orange and black really subtle color combo > > wnner will win special prize too be announced > > am limited by calif law to seven letters > > pls help > > joel kasof cupertino calif > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:25:48 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: PC800 , Subject: Re: PC800: air horns selection, sources, and installation? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David L. Sigsbee" >1. If any of you have done any comparisons, or even if you haven't but >have an opinion, what is the loudest air horn installable on a PC that >you know of? Car types are all probably about the same loudness - I think the biggest difference is the pitch. Short-trumpet horns, like inexpensive models at Trak Auto, have a higher pitch than long-trumpet horns. I had a friend who mounted a 2-foot long truckers horn on the side of his bike. >2. Where would I buy your preferred model? I am finding the local >selection rather limited and cannot find the Fiamms at all, not even >after a web search done in hopes of finding a mail order source for >them. Wolo (http://www.wolo-mfg.com/air.htm) has a number of horns, and sound files to go with them. Let us know if you choose a musical horn, and what tune! La Cucaracha is my favorite. >3. My plan is to put the air horn switch by the right grip in the space >above the starter button I think that location would be a problem, because you're used to using your left thumb for the horn. If you're really in an extremis situation, you're not going to have the time or mental resources to remember which thumb to press. If this is just to try and inflict some social justice, that's different. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:33:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Re: MSC - ERC "Chris Norloff" writes: > I really dislike loud pipes, but I'm curious - how did they determine > how loud was too loud? It's such a personal thing, and accurately and > repeatably measuring noise can require fancy equipment and testing. I suspect it was strictly by ear. One rider went to a hardware store and bought some steel wool to jam up his baffles; the stuff blew out every time he started the engine. There *were* some cruisers with modified exhausts that got past inspection, so it's not as if the MSF instructors just had it in for cruiser dudes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:44:49 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Juan says: >If it sounds like I am ranting, I am not. I've owned 5 chain-drive bikes and >liked them all, but once I experienced the convenience of shaft drive, it will >have to be quite a bike to lure me back to chains. Here's my question about chains. Wouldn't they occasionally throw oil on your nice suit on your way to that big meeting? I would think chain bikes would not be good ideas for commuters. Not that I've ever had a chain drive bike, mind you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:40:18 +0200 LOL...great reply Russ...hahaha.....that should get the good ol' chaindrive popular again..hahaha... No way I'm ever going back, the last time I had a chaindrive bike I had to lube it almost every day when riding my then long commute thru slush and salt. Never again... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; ; Sent: dinsdag 5 oktober 1999 5:27 Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives In a message dated 10/4/99 7:22:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: << When I sold my last chain drive bike, I tossed my garage-housed toilet bowl brush. I remember now how I detested all that cleaning of wheels. >> OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain drive bikes! Let me tell you something, I still have TWO chain drive motorcycles and it is no trouble at all looking after them. I mean, sure you have to check the tension before you go for a ride, and yes, you do have to spray chain lube on them to keep them lubricated. Of course, then you have to clean the wheels afterwards as the lubricant residue slings off, but that is no bother. And it is not that much of a bother getting on your hands and knees peering down the chain to try and see if it is aligned properly. Yes, this usually does mean removing the chain guard, but this usually takes no longer than a half hour or so. And every couple of years or so having to change out the chains and sprockets is not that big a deal, and I am usually out only a couple of hundred bucks when this is done. And the few times that I had to push my bike home because the chain broke was good exercise for me I am sure. So see? Chain drive is cool. If fact, I am seriously thinking of riding one of those bikes again someday. That is, as soon as I can find a new chain for it. Old one slung off down the road last time that I rode it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:41:06 +0200 LOL...great reply Russ...hahaha.....that should get the good ol' chaindrive popular again..hahaha... No way I'm ever going back, the last time I had a chaindrive bike I had to lube it almost every day in winter when riding my then long commute thru slush and salt. Never again... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: ; ; Sent: dinsdag 5 oktober 1999 5:27 Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives In a message dated 10/4/99 7:22:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: << When I sold my last chain drive bike, I tossed my garage-housed toilet bowl brush. I remember now how I detested all that cleaning of wheels. >> OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain drive bikes! Let me tell you something, I still have TWO chain drive motorcycles and it is no trouble at all looking after them. I mean, sure you have to check the tension before you go for a ride, and yes, you do have to spray chain lube on them to keep them lubricated. Of course, then you have to clean the wheels afterwards as the lubricant residue slings off, but that is no bother. And it is not that much of a bother getting on your hands and knees peering down the chain to try and see if it is aligned properly. Yes, this usually does mean removing the chain guard, but this usually takes no longer than a half hour or so. And every couple of years or so having to change out the chains and sprockets is not that big a deal, and I am usually out only a couple of hundred bucks when this is done. And the few times that I had to push my bike home because the chain broke was good exercise for me I am sure. So see? Chain drive is cool. If fact, I am seriously thinking of riding one of those bikes again someday. That is, as soon as I can find a new chain for it. Old one slung off down the road last time that I rode it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Improving the look of your PC800 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:48:21 +0200 >From: Spain, Harrison >The two switches (HIGH/LOW headlight and kill switch for the ignition) on >the handlebars start to fade after a few years and the white in the >lettering wears off. Mine were looking rather ratty ;-). I think white-out (typex) can do the job as well. A lot cheaper and easier. But then again, white-out may be the same as a white grease pencil (I don't know), in that case disregard this message since Peter allready said that then.... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 >>>>>> I may get yelled at for being a bit too compulsive but I replaced them both with new switches (they are about $25 each). Granted, a lot to spend for a couple of switches (both the old ones worked fine BTW), but it does improve the overall look of the bike and if I was getting it ready to sell, it would improve the price far beyond the $50. Installation is *very* easy and it gave me a chance to replace one of the screws in the handlebar plastic at the same time :-). Read all the way to the bottom before starting; you may save yourself some time. 1) Pop the center plastic ignition cover off (the piece around the ignition switch); it just pulls straight up (wiggle it a bit). 2) Remove the three large Phillips screws (again around the ignition switch). 3) Remove the six Phillips screws (three on each side; look for them underneath) holding the handlebar plastic together. 4) The switch cables just pull out of the switch (compress the side latches). 5) Pop the old switches out, pop the new switches in. They are held in by a plastic "tab" that compresses to allow the switch in and out. It does not have to be all that "secure" since all the pressure is from the top. POSSIBLE FAST WAY TO REPLACE THESE SWITCHES: If you could get a good grab on them, you might be able to replace the switch without removing *any* plastic by pulling the switch up and out. Assuming the cable is long enough to unplug and plug in the new switch from above, all you would have to do is pop the new switch in. 6) Re-assemble :-). > Harrison Spain > Unigraphics Solutions > GTAC Systems Support > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:59:18 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Small cover when traveling To: dallas@us.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jrandall@tricon.net writes: >Tour King makes such a cover for the PC and other bikes - it's >about $40 as I recall and stuffs into a little sack about 3" in >diameter and 7" long. > >Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Dallas Thomason > To: PC800-List > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 8:42 PM > Subject: PC800: Small cover when traveling > > > to All > > Does anybody own a cover that is designed just to cover the >wind shield and the seat, basically just the top of the PC. I am >looking for something small that I can carry at all times. It >would be used for those overnight rides to keep the due out. > _______________ > Dallas Thomason > 1989, PC800, "Perky Pearl" > Silver Spring, MD I have the Tour King for the PC800. I bought it at the Honda HomeComing. It covers the top half of your windshield (I'm going to call to see it I can get a custom one for a taller windshield) , over your dash and your seat. It attaaches with elastic straps under the headlight and foot pegs. Mine has been through a couple of very windy rains and it stayed on the bike. Folds into a very compact size like Jim says. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:02:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Sport Touring alternatives RVPC800@aol.com writes: > OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain > drive bikes! Rather than a sarcastic reply, here's a genuine one. My HawkGT has a single-sided swingarm, so rear wheel alignment is always perfect. I adjust the chain (minimally) once a year. I lube it about every 1000 miles with Chain Wax. No lubricant ever flies off, and the rear wheel stays at least as clean as that on my PC. When I change the oil, I clean the chain with kerosene and an old towel. The current chain has 18,000 miles on it, and looks good for another 10,000. Sure, it's slightly more maintenance than a driveshaft, but not much. For commuting and weekend rides of less than 500 miles, there's not much difference. If I were doing cross-country rides or Iron Butts, the shaft drive would be a major factor. And yes, I *have* changed the gearing on chain drive bikes by using different sprockets, and it's a major plus over shaft drive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:02:09 +0200 >From: Betty Lise Anderson >Here's my question about chains. Wouldn't they occasionally throw oil on >your nice suit on your way to that big meeting? A smart commuter wouldn't put his suit on when riding. I always wear a cordura jacket and pair of paints over my uniform with the dress shoes in the trunk...err.. I mean in of the cases. Never had chain grease on my pants though, the chain guard / fender takes care of that. So it's no problem for commuting... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Betty Lise Anderson" , "David Kelly" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:19:17 -0700 Phlogiston, friends, phlogiston. And maybe a little chlorophyll (it worked for everything in the '50's). Lee Barker Oregon -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Kelly To: Betty Lise Anderson Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:42 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Pressure Gage >Betty Lise Anderson writes: >> >> An optical tire gauge... I wonder if the National Science Foundation will >> go for it? I have a buddy in Mechanical engineering who works on optical >> sensors for combustion in car engines...maybe I could get her interested in >> motorcycles.... > >Motorcycles. Cars. Boats. Airplanes. Ok, probably not boats but boat >trailers would apply. > >There must be some kind of interesting optical property as a fuction of >ambient pressure. With all the noise that must be inside a tire rolling >down the road one might be able to generate enough electricty to power >a transducer by rectifying the output of something like a piezo cell. A >spot on the rim could change color or something based on tire pressure. >Then a stationary powered sensor could report the results to the dash >mounted indicator. > >Be sure to tune in next week when I invent perpetual motion. Again. > >-- >David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net >===================================================================== >The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its >capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'Emile Nossin'" , "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:27:09 -0400 I commute about 200 miles twice a week to teach. With a nice "tacky" lubricant (like Chain Wax or PJs) just about none of the excess oil goes flying off. Adjustment of the chain takes about a minute and a half (gotta love eccentric chain adjusters). Still would rather have shaft - but its really not that bad... Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Emile Nossin Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 6:02 AM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives >From: Betty Lise Anderson >Here's my question about chains. Wouldn't they occasionally throw oil on >your nice suit on your way to that big meeting? A smart commuter wouldn't put his suit on when riding. I always wear a cordura jacket and pair of paints over my uniform with the dress shoes in the trunk...err.. I mean in of the cases. Never had chain grease on my pants though, the chain guard / fender takes care of that. So it's no problem for commuting... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Trophy 1200 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:27:20 -0700 My mechanic here--24 some years as an independent--has a Triumph Thunderbird and it has kept him grinning for two years. He was VERY concerned about mileage at first and the dealer told him to keep riding and it has steadily improved (to what I don't know). I find the fit and finish on it to be superb. Haven't yet ridden it. He always maintained that he wants me to, but hasn't mentioned it since I crashed.... And speaking of crashing, and to keep the myth alive, do you know why there are no British computer manufacturers? (scroll a little while you think) ...They haven't yet figured out a way to make them leak oil. (stolen shamelessly from Click and Clack) Lee Barker Oregon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "Pc800 (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: RIDE: Sunday, October 24th, 1999 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:53:58 -0400 Dear PC'ers and any other interested parties, I am organizing a nice little Sunday ride from Westerville, Ohio up to Massillon, Ohio, along good old State Route 3. Total distance (both ways) is a little less than 200 miles. It is an absolutely gorgeous route, through winding hills and farm country. We will meet at the Friendly's Resturaunt in Downtown Westerville (44 S. State St, which is also Route 3) at 9:30 AM on Sunday, October 24th. We will head out at 10:00 AM. We should reach Massillon by 1:00 and will stop for lunch, heading back at 2:00 PM. Expect to be back in Westerville by 5:00 PM. The ride will be conducted causally, but will go by the guidelines for riding formation laid down by the Southern Californica Pacific Coast Riders Club. These guidelines can be found at their web site http://www.scpcrc.org/ DIRECTIONS TO REACH THE FRIENDLY'S in WESTERVILLE: (from almost anywhere) - Take The Columbus Outerbelt (I-270) to the Westerville Rd. Exit and head North. - If your coming from the North or South, Take I-71 to I-270 and head East. - If your coming from the East or West, Take I-70 to I-270 and head North. BAD WEATHER CLAUSE: - In case of temperatures below 50 degrees F, Snow, Sleet, Hail, or driving rain, assume that the ride is cancelled. I will at least still be there even if its drizzling. Please dress appropriately. Please RSVP me if you think you might be interested or need additional directions. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM63TASA; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:46:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: duke@tigerpaw.com, lavoote@mail.northgrum.com, ranch90@aol.com, vneill@aol.com, ppugh@rsmartinc.com, ronschneider@juno.com, louartie@aol.com, woodwarddl@home.com, trichter@primary.net, swift24@juno.com, karlaschlie@juno.com, dbarrett@tigerpaw.com, mort@wwa.com, La1618@one-eleven.net, toudles@aol.com, Lateraider@email.msn.com, David_E._Smith@asuwest-online.west.asu.edu, t.versluys@worldnet.att.net, pilewis1@concentric.net, jimr@arkansas.net, ruthmiami@aol.com, JOHNCWHITCHER@chicago.avenew.com, Zierendo@aol.com, di9731@vci.net Cc: lcshepp@directcon.net, jdc84@juno.com, anitom@pacbell.net, di9731@vci.net, mlinkous@inetone.net, MOODS@aol.com, JamesAlexander@csi.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Jan Fwd: FAMOUS LAST WORDS Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:46:49 EDT Of course it's sterile. That should be at least enough gas to make it across Nevada. It's so tame you can put your head in its mouth It should be ok to swim in. It's supposed to make that noise. It doesn't *look* like the bridge is out. The boss won't mind. Jason won't find us in this closet. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:53:43 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Badger bike Hello all, On our color tour this weekend, saw a 90 or 96 (both red right?) PC at the Sleeping Bear Dunes in northern LP Michigan. Didn't see the riders, but I understand there were two of them and they were from Wisconsin. Anyone from the list? It was a bloody cold day for a ride. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by land.willinet.net with SMTP; 5 Oct 1999 09:59:53 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:59:52 -0500 From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: gwta@voyager.net Subject: Re: PC800: Badger bike Thomas Ongstad wrote: > > Hello all, > > On our color tour this weekend, saw a 90 or 96 (both red right?) PC at > the Sleeping Bear Dunes in northern LP Michigan. Didn't see the riders, > but I understand there were two of them and they were from Wisconsin. > > Anyone from the list? It was a bloody cold day for a ride. There are a couple of brothers or maybe cousins that ride a pair of PC's. I think they live in the Wisconsin area. I have met their cousins or sisters or someone at a BMW rally in Wisconsin. Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:18:35 EDT Subject: PC800: The Triumph Trophy To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu There has been rumors around for a number of months that a drive shaft Trophy is being tested in Europe. If a drive shaft Trophy is in the works it would give the other manufactures of Sport Touring machines a "run for their money." Bernie 94 PC 57K Overland Park, KS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:22:30 -0400 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: PC800: vacuum List Members: PC vacuum valve problem solved. It was not a problem with the PC. It was the mechanic. When I reassembled the valve the spring caused the diaphragm to roll away from the sealing surfaces. Live and learn. (Second chance) is up and running again. I think I may try the sound proofing someone mentioned. What was the name of the product? We are riding dirt bikes in TN this weekend. Who want to come play????? -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:24:08 -0400 From: cen13504 To: cnorloff@norloff.com, PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: air horns selection, sources, and installation? > David, > > > >3. My plan is to put the air horn switch by the right grip in the space > >above the starter button I used the factory switch for my air horns. In the circuit with the air horns I added a cut off switch. With it off just the factory horns sound, with it on both blow. -- Kenneth Winter 1-800-264-6757 East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:25:04 -0400 From: cen13504 To: Betty Lise Anderson , pc list Subject: PC800: touch up paint (Snip) > My husband says, the candy colors are really hard to duplicate. Some of > them get their color by spraying over a white base, some from spraying over > a gold base. Candy Glory Red is one that they spray over a gold-colored > base, I believe. Betty Lise, I have first hand knowledge about paints. The Candy glory red uses a silver base coat. I just finish painting a few panels. What a job!! The process is grey primer, silver base coat with metal flakes laid properly and then THREE coats of candy glory red which is translucent. After all of that add the clear coat.... The paint job turned out well except for one panel to which I applied four coats of red. That panel is noticeably darker than the others. For touch up paint I use a Chrysler paint from WalMart. If anyone wants the color code, contact me. Kenneth Winter 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:58:18 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: The great chain vs. shaft symposium Selden Deemer wrote: > I lube it about every > 1000 miles with Chain Wax. No lubricant ever flies off, and the rear > wheel stays at least as clean as that on my PC. I know I tried just about everything, including Chain Wax. Wax is great for o-ring chains because it coats and protects the chain links, but it really doesn't lubricate, so for non o-ring chains you are stuck with what another lister identified as "gorilla snot" (good analogy BTW). Anyway, I would always end up with some of the lubricant slinging of onto the wheel and the countershaft sprocket housing (ever try cleaning out one of those?). Especially if you couldn't afford to wait the time required for the lube to 'set'. I also got it on my fingers (until I discovered latex surgical gloves) and my soft luggage. And yes, current day chains are very, very durable. But they still don't approach the convenience of a shaft drive. I never had the pleasure of using a self-aligning sinlge-sided swingarm. One question still nags me tho: How do you prevent the rear disk from being contaminated? Best compromise no manufacturer has marketed yet: Single sided swing arm with _belt_ drive :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: The great chain vs. shaft symposium Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:21:22 -0700 >Juan Goula wrote: >Best compromise no manufacturer has marketed yet: Single sided swing arm >with _belt_ drive :-) > Amen, to that brother. I've always wondered why no one has offered this. Roger Bowen 98 PC800 'Wabbit' Grants Pass, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:50:49 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ride Report/Road hazzard dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > I think the next time I see a deer, I'm going to attempt a controlled emergency > stop, traffic permitting, because there's no way in hell of predicting which way > the thing will go when it panicks. I've been told to "aim for the deer" because > it's less likely to be in the same spot by the time you get there. I think I'll > add my own flavor: "aim for the deer, and brake like hell." >From personal experience, I will never veer on a bike to avoid a deer again. I believe that is what caused my spill. If I had stayed straight up, hit the brakes hard and hit the deer in the back end (versus the back leg) I figure I would have done more damage to the bike and less to me. FWIW. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:35:06 +0100 Great bike the Hawk GT! For some years there have been shaft drive versions of these available here, known as NTV500 and NTV600. But they do not handle as well as the Hawk GT and are heavy. The V-Twin engine of the PC800, Shadow and even the VTR is based on the original design for the Hawk GT and Bros 500s. Even just looking at the outer engine castings the resemblance is amazing. Job Chithalan Sussex Coast England ---------- > From: Selden Deemer > To: PC 800 List > Subject: PC800: Re: Sport Touring alternatives > Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:02 PM > > RVPC800@aol.com writes: > > > OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain > > drive bikes! > > Rather than a sarcastic reply, here's a genuine one. My HawkGT has a > single-sided swingarm, so rear wheel alignment is always perfect. > I adjust the chain (minimally) once a year. I lube it about every > 1000 miles with Chain Wax. No lubricant ever flies off, and the rear > wheel stays at least as clean as that on my PC. When I change the oil, > I clean the chain with kerosene and an old towel. The current chain > has 18,000 miles on it, and looks good for another 10,000. Sure, it's > slightly more maintenance than a driveshaft, but not much. For > commuting and weekend rides of less than 500 miles, there's not much > difference. If I were doing cross-country rides or Iron Butts, the > shaft drive would be a major factor. And yes, I *have* changed the > gearing on chain drive bikes by using different sprockets, and it's > a major plus over shaft drive. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:50:41 +0100 All this is a matter of 'horses for courses' Shaft drive is great for a tourer like the PC800 but I will not want them on my trial bikes. Yes! I do have to clean and lube the chains after EVERY ride off road. On sports bike, the Scott Oiler goes along way to find a answer to lubrication by spraying a measured quantity automatically. Many people get 4 to 5 times the normal chain and sprocket life with one of these fitted. 35,000 miles on a VFR750 for example. Also, a company here has just started making enclosed chain guards for some popular sports bikes. Job Sussex, England ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives > Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:40 PM > > LOL...great reply Russ...hahaha.....that should get > the good ol' chaindrive popular again..hahaha... > > No way I'm ever going back, the last time I had a chaindrive > bike I had to lube it almost every day when riding my then > long commute thru slush and salt. Never again... > > Emile > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > http://fly.to/emile > http://go.to/pc800 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; ; > Sent: dinsdag 5 oktober 1999 5:27 > Subject: Re: PC800: Sport Touring alternatives > > > In a message dated 10/4/99 7:22:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: > > << When I sold my last chain drive bike, I tossed my garage-housed toilet bowl > brush. I remember now how I detested all that cleaning of wheels. >> > OK, that is IT! I am tired of all of you whiners bitching about chain drive > bikes! Let me tell you something, I still have TWO chain drive motorcycles > and it is no trouble at all looking after them. I mean, sure you have to > check the tension before you go for a ride, and yes, you do have to spray > chain lube on them to keep them lubricated. Of course, then you have to clean > the wheels afterwards as the lubricant residue slings off, but that is no > bother. And it is not that much of a bother getting on your hands and knees > peering down the chain to try and see if it is aligned properly. Yes, this > usually does mean removing the chain guard, but this usually takes no longer > than a half hour or so. And every couple of years or so having to change out > the chains and sprockets is not that big a deal, and I am usually out only a > couple of hundred bucks when this is done. And the few times that I had to > push my bike home because the chain broke was good exercise for me I am sure. > So see? Chain drive is cool. If fact, I am seriously thinking of riding one > of those bikes again someday. That is, as soon as I can find a new chain for > it. Old one slung off down the road last time that I rode it. > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:51:22 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Jan Fwd: FAMOUS LAST WORDS To: annreid@juno.com, duke@tigerpaw.com, lavoote@mail.northgrum.com, Ranch90@aol.com, Vneill@aol.com, ppugh@rsmartinc.com, ronschneider@juno.com, LOUARTIE@aol.com, woodwarddl@home.com, trichter@primary.net, swift24@juno.com, karlaschlie@juno.com, dbarrett@tigerpaw.com, mort@wwa.com, La1618@one-eleven.net, TOUDLES@aol.com, Lateraider@email.msn.com, David_E._Smith@asuwest-online.west.asu.edu, t.versluys@worldnet.att.net, pilewis1@concentric.net, jimr@arkansas.net, RuthMiami@aol.com, JOHNCWHITCHER@chicago.avenew.com, Zierendo@aol.com, di9731@vci.net CC: lcshepp@directcon.net, jdc84@juno.com, anitom@pacbell.net, mlinkous@inetone.net, MOODS@aol.com, JamesAlexander@csi.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Mind if I add a few? Helmets? Never wear 'em. I am a good rider. Don't have to worry about cops on this road. Pay no attention to that temperature gauge. We'll make it OK. I drive better after I've had a couple of drinks. Dang, but I'm tired. I'm going to shut my eyes just for a moment........ I think that you Hell's Angels are really a bunch of damn sissies! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:03:27 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: License Plate Seen on a Harley at the dealer during their "New Year" celebration: PRIM8 I told the guy that his plate was cool. He grunted and looked as if he wasn't sure if I had just complimented him or insulted him. I just quietly walked away... :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:08:03 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie Joel Kasof wrote: > > am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. colors > are orange and black really subtle color combo Joel, orange and black are Harley Davidson colors, so to make sure that you don't confuse the faithful, you can have the following: NOTPORK (Seen on a Heavily customized Royal Star at one of the Intl. M/C shows.) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: PC800: Jan Fwd: FAMOUS LAST WORDS Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:57:10 -0700 And one more: Yeah, I can do it. I used to do it all the time when I was a kid. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com To: annreid@juno.com ; duke@tigerpaw.com ; lavoote@mail.northgrum.com ; Ranch90@aol.com ; Vneill@aol.com ; ppugh@rsmartinc.com ; ronschneider@juno.com ; LOUARTIE@aol.com ; woodwarddl@home.com ; trichter@primary.net ; swift24@juno.com ; karlaschlie@juno.com ; dbarrett@tigerpaw.com ; mort@wwa.com ; La1618@one-eleven.net ; TOUDLES@aol.com ; Lateraider@email.msn.com ; David_E._Smith@asuwest-online.west.asu.edu ; t.versluys@worldnet.att.net ; pilewis1@concentric.net ; jimr@arkansas.net ; RuthMiami@aol.com ; JOHNCWHITCHER@chicago.avenew.com ; Zierendo@aol.com ; di9731@vci.net Cc: lcshepp@directcon.net ; jdc84@juno.com ; anitom@pacbell.net ; mlinkous@inetone.net ; MOODS@aol.com ; JamesAlexander@csi.com ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Jan Fwd: FAMOUS LAST WORDS >Mind if I add a few? > >Helmets? Never wear 'em. I am a good rider. > >Don't have to worry about cops on this road. > >Pay no attention to that temperature gauge. We'll make it OK. > >I drive better after I've had a couple of drinks. > >Dang, but I'm tired. I'm going to shut my eyes just for a moment........ > >I think that you Hell's Angels are really a bunch of damn sissies! > > >Russ Vernon >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:58:16 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Unusual PC spotted Spotted an unusual PC800 this morning. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 10/05/99 Time: 10:15am CDT. Location: Heading west out of Denton, TX on US 380. Bike: DARK BLUE (Royal Blue?) PC800 with matching Givi box. Anybody we know? BTW, the dark, yet bright blue looked REALLY good! Jeffrey King '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EM83QNVC; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 05:23:52 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:52:21 -0400 Subject: PC800: Puhleeeeeze What's this to do with PC800s? Pls 4 give me but I was worn out after getting 79 messages this morning. I am sorry. Rocky On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:42:14 -0700 (PDT) MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof) writes: > > am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. > colors > are orange and black really subtle color combo > > wnner will win special prize too be announced > > am limited by calif law to seven letters > > > pls help > > > joel kasof cupertino calif > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: wings@armchair.mb.ca Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Lift at half of street price Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 03:53:07 PDT Hi guys, Just order a toy for myself - a bike lift made by JackAll. LORDCO offered CAD$249 which is approx. $173 converted into US$s - almost or maybe more than 50% cut from street prices for other brand name lifts (Blackjact, Liftit, Handy...etc). And features are very similiar, you know, they all carrying the same set of keywords: heavy duty, powder coating, MIG welding, 1500lb, 4 ton jack ... Their flyer shows a long list of LORDCO shops in BC of Canada, don't know if they have shops in other provinces, or in the States; if mail/phone orders are accepted, need to check. But this is definitely a good deal. Hey hey, how about planning a $150 budget weedend trip to the beautiful BC so as to buy one? - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 23 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:33:02 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Re: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie >Joel Kasof wrote: >> >> am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. colors >> are orange and black really subtle color combo > > >Joel, orange and black are Harley Davidson colors, so to make sure >that you don't confuse the faithful, you can have the following: > > NOTPORK > THey are also halloween colors, so you could have BOO -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: vacuum Kenneth Winter writes: > PC vacuum valve problem solved. It was not a problem with the PC. It > was the mechanic. When I reassembled the valve the spring caused the > diaphragm to roll away from the sealing surfaces. Live and learn. > (Second chance) is up and running again. > I think I may try the sound proofing someone mentioned. > What was the name of the product? This is what I suspected. If you ever disassemble the carbs, the same problem can occur when re-installing the carb slide; if the diaphragm isn't seated properly, the engine will (probably) start and idle, but will run very poorly above 1/4 throttle. I stopped at Home Depot last weekend to look for the oil-absorbing felt that I used for sound absorbing padding under the shelter. Looks like one of those products they stocked briefly and don't any longer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Philips Wong" , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Lift at half of street price Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:27:24 -0700 Philips, You had quite abit of luggage flying here, now your bringing even more back? Do any more shopping and you might need a Boeing 747 to go home on. Sorry the weather is a little cooler this week, last week would have been better for you. Have fun... Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Philips Wong >Just order a toy for myself - a bike lift made by JackAll. LORDCO >offered CAD$249 which is approx. $173 converted into US$s - almost >or maybe more than 50% cut from street prices for other brand name >lifts (Blackjact, Liftit, Handy...etc). And features are very >similiar, you know, they all carrying the same set of keywords: >heavy duty, powder coating, MIG welding, 1500lb, 4 ton jack ... > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Helmet strap connector? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:08:21 -0700 I need some help from the list :-). I just purchased a new helmet (Shoei RF800) and would like to install a quick release type strap connector. Does anyone have any suggestions? The Nolan quick release (with the "rachet" type tab that clicks into the slot) works great but I don't know if they are sold apart from the helmet. My last helmet took more than 12 months to break in (I ride every day) to where I could release the strap without manually undoing it. I suspect you know what I mean :-). Rather than break in the new helmet, I thought I would get a quick release connector device this time :-). I did find one site that sells a connector but I'm not sure if it even works :-) -> http://www.plustwo.com/ Many thanks for your help! > Harrison Spain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A5B610C40106; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:07:34 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" , "Spain, Harrison" Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet strap connector? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:05:33 -0400 www.compacc.com has quick releases! I have 3 of them and like them. They are under $7 but Comp. Acc. wants almost that much to ship them so you may want to buy a few other things. Call their 800 number or search for ECHO QUICK RELEASE Michael ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Spain, Harrison To: PC800 Mailing List (E-mail) Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: PC800: Helmet strap connector? > I need some help from the list :-). I just purchased a new helmet (Shoei > RF800) and would like to install a quick release type strap connector. Does > anyone have any suggestions? > > The Nolan quick release (with the "rachet" type tab that clicks into the > slot) works great but I don't know if they are sold apart from the helmet. > > My last helmet took more than 12 months to break in (I ride every day) to > where I could release the strap without manually undoing it. I suspect you > know what I mean :-). Rather than break in the new helmet, I thought I > would get a quick release connector device this time :-). > > I did find one site that sells a connector but I'm not sure if it even works > :-) -> http://www.plustwo.com/ > > Many thanks for your help! > > > Harrison Spain > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rustin Beam" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 for Sale Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:22:19 AKDT Hey there Listers-- There's a 1996 PC800 waiting in a cycle shop 'round Yakima WA for a rider. Black, fairly stock, spotless inside and out, and with less than 3100 miles on it. $5000 is the stated price. If curious, contact before someone like me gets his next two paychecks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: ST Pics online ! Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:43:05 +0200 may be harmfull for Will Edwards' financial budget) Finally got some time to update my site and upload some pictures of my ST. I put together this message last nite but it apperently didn't make it past the Dutch censor office, maybe it works via this Email adress. There's also a very nice picture of my PC on the PC800 page, the last one I took of her. Check it all out at: http://fly.to/emile Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... Emile@Cybercomm.nl Emile.Nossin@KLM.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 12:56:52 -0500 From: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Tour King half-covers I just got off the phone with Terry Bowles, chief cook and bottle washer of Tour King in Abilene, Texas, and ordered one of his half covers for the Batcycle. $42.34 including shipping and taxes. Very nice guy and likes to talk bikes. He also said that he makes custom sizes for those of us with the taller shields at NO EXTRA CHARGE. If you're thinking of getting one, might want to give him a call so he can make up a batch of them as long as he's making mine. According to him, they are made from rip-stop nylon, and cover the shield and the handlebars, along with the seat and "tank". Like the Model T, you can have it in any color you wish, as long as it's black (black gives the best protection against UV rays according to him). He doesn't take credit card orders, but will ship with an invoice (no prepay). Custom orders take an extra couple of days, and he ships via Priority Mail. No, I don't work for him, but good service is hard to find, and I always like to give smaller companies a plug when I can. His phone number is 800-572-TOUR (8687), and the website url is http://www.abilene.com/tourking/ . Jeffrey King '94 PC800 (The Batcycle) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:01:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 for Sale To: rustymb@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/6/99 11:24:30 AM Mountain Daylight Time, rustymb@hotmail.com writes: << There's a 1996 PC800 waiting in a cycle shop 'round Yakima WA for a rider. Black, fairly stock, spotless inside and out, and with less than 3100 miles on it. $5000 is the stated price. >> That bike is either not a 1996 model, or it is not black unless it has been painted. Only the '94 and the '95 year models were black. If then it is one of those year models, then 5K is rather steep. That is only $1100 less than I paid for my '95 new that same year. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert Coulter" To: "Madeleine and Joel Kasof" , Subject: Re: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:01:44 -0400 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Madeleine and Joel Kasof To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:38 AM Subject: PC800: cosmetic plate for my valkyrie am holding a contest for best suggestion for my new valkyrie.. colors are orange and black really subtle color combo Joel, a couple things come to mind -- BumbleB or Bengal ---- The Cincinnati, OH football fans would like it! Karen Coulter '97 PC "Li'l Red" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 06 Oct 1999 17:11:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:25:00 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Lance White Subject: PC800: 95 Shadow ACE1100,very low miles, for sale:) $4,900 OBO If anyone is interested in a 95 Honda Shadow ACE1100 with only 5,000 miles on it give me an email. I just bought a 96 PC800 so am selling the Shadow for under retail. It does have a couple extras and is in great shape. Thanks!! I'm located in central IL. Lance white@jwbank.net (217)935-8141 eve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 6 Oct 1999 17:39:57 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 17:46:39 -0400 From: Roger Subject: Re: PC800: ST Pics online ! To: Nossin EM - SPLKK Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.netNoSPAM On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 19:43:05 +0200, you wrote: --> (WARNING: Contents of next announcement --> may be harmfull for Will Edwards' financial budget) --> --> Finally got some time to update my site and --> upload some pictures of my ST. I put together this=20 --> message last nite but it apperently didn't make it --> past the Dutch censor office, maybe it works via this --> Email adress. There's also a very nice picture of my PC=20 --> on the PC800 page, the last one I took of her.=20 --> Check it all out at: --> --> http://fly.to/emile --> --> Emile --> '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" --> http://fly.to/emile --> http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... --> Emile@Cybercomm.nl --> Emile.Nossin@KLM.nl _________________________________________________ Wait a minute here..your country monitors your web access? =46or real? Or are you just kidding? By the way...nice pics..and Will ain't the only one that is yearning for an ST...(raising hand here too). :-) ***************************************************** What you do speaks so loudly that I can not=20 hear what you say....Ralph Waldo Emerson ***************************************************** Roger... home page URL given upon request. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: FAMOUS LAST WORDS Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:40:51 +0200 This Throttlemeister is great.. look, no hands ! It's okay for me to wear jeans and a T-shirt, I'm not riding a crotch rocket... That jacket is for riding in the winter, stupid ! Don't worry, this bike has autolean ! : ) Emile "If your life flashes before you....it'd better be worth watching.." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: montyshaw@spamcop.net by server01.gw.total-web.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 1999 21:53:07 -0000 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tour King half-covers Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 17:53:28 -0400 He is a great guy with a nice product. Don't forget to tell him if you've got a passenger back rest. He needed to know when I ordered mine. He actually talked me thru taking the measurements on the PC when I ordered mine. Then shipped it and waited for me to send the check. What a trusting soul. ]Monty[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: ST Pics online ! Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:01:22 +0200 --> message last nite but it apperently didn't make it --> past the Dutch censor office, >_________________________________________________ >Wait a minute here..your country monitors your web access? >For real? Or are you just kidding? >By the way...nice pics..and Will ain't the only one that is >yearning for an ST...(raising hand here too). :-) >Roger...>home page URL given upon request. Roger Roger ! Amazing that they let your message thru, normally they don't want to leak out messages discussing the Silent Hollland Internet Tracker system. Ah well... Don't be surprised if some men in dark suits with dark sunglasses wearing wooden shoes ring your doorbell any time soon. They'll silence you eventually...they haven't found me yet... oops...my S.H.I.T.-scanner is signaling they're on to me...gotta go offline now... Oh yeah, requesting URL, Roger. Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Re: Honda Nowrthwest Ride Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:14:45 -0400 Well it doesn't look like I'm going to have a free weekend in October to get a ride together, and November is rather iffy, weatherwise. So I'm going to try to get to Honda Northwest for the dinner ride. I assume its all makes and models? If so I'll ask a couple of others if they're interested. Hope to finally meet some of you! Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Betty Lise Anderson To: Pacific coaster in Columbus:; Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:40 PM Subject: Honda Nowrthwest Ride > >Here's what I have learned about the Honda NW ride: > >People meet at Honda NW at 6:00, then get on the road about 6:30. The ride >is on the order of an hour, then stop for dinner which is another hour, >then they figure a half hour to get back. One could presumably bail early >if needed. > >I've never been on one of these before but have been meaning to check it out. > > >Hope to see you there! Wednesday, Octber 13. > >Betty Lise Anderson >Dept. Of Electrical Engineering >The Ohio State University >205 Dreese Lab 2015 Neil Avenue Columbus OH check out the cool zip code 43210 >http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~anderson/ > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: K12LT stuff... Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:20:27 +0200 Rocky, for you and others considering BMW's wannabee-PC: (forwarded from ST list) Emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Joe Luma To: Cc: Dennis Kaill Sent: woensdag 6 oktober 1999 23:15 Subject: ST1100: Any 2nd thoughts on owning a Honda ST As many know, I joined the BMW list, to try and get a report on this specially made for K12LT D205 tire I have. No one has commented BTW. But I thought this message was fun : Brad/List: > (snip) > If you consider the modest number of K12LTs represented on this list and > the number of shift linkage, clunky transmission, loose fenders, impotent > light adjusters, loose steering dampers, etc. problems we have encountered, > I'd say it's safe to assert they have a serious quality and reliability > problem with this bike. (snip) > I think when my tranny starts giving me a problem I'll go see a lawyer. > There must be a lemon law that applies... > > good luck, > Brad Henson > K12LTC Beta Tester, patience expired Hi all. I've got a K1200LT with about 15K miles on it now. I had the shifter linkage fail on I-10 outside of Tallahassee; the towing service was a nightmare... But that's not the reason for this message. I rode my bike in a 24 hour rally this past weekend. One stretch of the route was on Arizona Highway 191 (aka Devil's Highway, formerly Route 666.) About halfway through the 90 miles of twisties, I was afraid the gearbox was going to puke. Shifts into/out of 4th and 5th were hard and very crunchy. Additionally, there seems to be an inordinate amount of "slop" in the drivetrain, making smooth shifts and throttle transitions problematic, at best. I wanted to ask the list if anyone else has had this experience, and if there is a website dedicated to K12LT issues. Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already; I've been off list for a while. TIA, Rick -- Rick Rohlf Round Rock, TX 1999 "Finest Year" K1200LT 12,000 miles and climbing 1994 R1100RSL 1979 R100RS 1976 R75/6 (x2), 1988 K75S: Gone but not forgotten BMWMOA #17093, AMA, IBMWR, Airheads, BMW 200,000 mile award, USA Four Corners Finisher "The longer I live, the more I realize I have yet to learn." -Joe- (STOC # 869 HSTA # 8461 RG) Tower House Bed & Breakfast San Juan Island, Washington http://www.san-juan-island.com alternate e-mail addresses: joenw@excite.com joe_luma@compuserve.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" , Subject: Re: PC800: ST Pics online ! Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:46:15 -0700 You do have a mean streak, great pictures though. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK > (WARNING: Contents of next announcement > may be harmfull for Will Edwards' financial budget) > > Finally got some time to update my site and > upload some pictures of my ST. I put together this -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ENANAEJ9; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 20:07:22 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:08:34 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Lift at half of street price From: Harvey P Sattin Is there an inexpensive lift that will work with the PC? I know the huge drive-on lifts will work of course. I didn't know we could use one of those other frame-type lifts. I thought there were pipes under there. I gotta go look at my PC. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:27:24 -0700 "Will Edwards" writes: >Philips, >You had quite abit of luggage flying here, now your bringing even >more >back? Do any more shopping and you might need a Boeing 747 to go >home >on. Sorry the weather is a little cooler this week, last week would >have been better for you. >Have fun... > >Will Edwards >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. >-----Original Message----- >From: Philips Wong >>Just order a toy for myself - a bike lift made by JackAll. LORDCO >>offered CAD$249 which is approx. $173 converted into US$s - almost >>or maybe more than 50% cut from street prices for other brand name >>lifts (Blackjact, Liftit, Handy...etc). And features are very >>similiar, you know, they all carrying the same set of keywords: >>heavy duty, powder coating, MIG welding, 1500lb, 4 ton jack ... >> > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dallas Thomason" To: "Jeffrey King (K5ING)" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Tour King half-covers Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:40:04 -0400 Made the very same call last weekend. Got the very same response from Mr. Bowles. My cover is being made for my PC800 with small back rest and clearview +5. No prepay, he ask that I pay the invoice promptly. Hope the cover is as good as the customer service. Dallas Thomason 89, "Perky Pearl" > I just got off the phone with Terry Bowles, chief cook and bottle > washer of Tour King in Abilene, Texas, and ordered one of his half > covers for the Batcycle. $42.34 including shipping and taxes. > > Very nice guy and likes to talk bikes -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ENATUK6L; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:44:41 EDT To: chrisnjo@interisland.net Cc: denb@rockisland.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:33:03 -0400 Subject: Fw: PC800: K12LT stuff... ADOLF SEZ: DER FINAL SOLUTION MIT DER VER DAMPTEM SWINE-HUNTEN BMW K1200LTs IST SETTEN ZIE DAS FIRE TO IT UND COLLECT THE INSURANCE UND BIE GETTEN ZIE EINE RICE BURNER (LIKE THE PC800) MIT DAS INSURANCE MONEY! NIPPON BIKES RULE!!!!!! Rocky in Himmelsburgh Poop they wrote. > If you consider the modest number of K12LTs represented on this list and > the number of shift linkage, clunky transmission, loose fenders, impotent > light adjusters, loose steering dampers, etc. problems we have encountered, > I'd say it's safe to assert they have a serious quality and reliability > problem with this bike. (snip) > I think when my tranny starts giving me a problem I'll go see a lawyer. > There must be a lemon law that applies... > > good luck, > Brad Henson > K12LTC Beta Tester, patience expired Hi all. I've got a K1200LT with about 15K miles on it now. I had the shifter linkage fail on I-10 outside of Tallahassee; the towing service was a nightmare... But that's not the reason for this message. I rode my bike in a 24 hour rally this past weekend. One stretch of the route was on Arizona Highway 191 (aka Devil's Highway, formerly Route 666.) About halfway through the 90 miles of twisties, I was afraid the gearbox was going to puke. Shifts into/out of 4th and 5th were hard and very crunchy. Additionally, there seems to be an inordinate amount of "slop" in the drivetrain, making smooth shifts and throttle transitions problematic, at best. I wanted to ask the list if anyone else has had this experience, and if there is a website dedicated to K12LT issues. Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already; I've been off list for a while. TIA, Rick -- Rick Rohlf Round Rock, TX 1999 "Finest Year" K1200LT 12,000 miles and climbing 1994 R1100RSL 1979 R100RS 1976 R75/6 (x2), 1988 K75S: Gone but not forgotten BMWMOA #17093, AMA, IBMWR, Airheads, BMW 200,000 mile award, USA Four Corners Finisher "The longer I live, the more I realize I have yet to learn." ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine and Joel Kasof) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:17:38 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years subscription to motorcycle consumer news socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! joel kasof cupertino calif 99 aspencade(black beauty) 98 pc (wong wing) 98 helix (twin turbos coming soon) 92 bmw K-1 (up for sale) (really pretty 99 valkyrie on its way orange an black -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:24:02 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Wilson" To: "Madeleine and Joel Kasof" , Subject: Re: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:25:11 -0500 Pumpkin Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Madeleine and Joel Kasof To: Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:17 PM Subject: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie > > the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years > subscription to > motorcycle consumer news socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! > > > joel kasof cupertino calif > > 99 aspencade(black beauty) > 98 pc (wong wing) > 98 helix (twin turbos coming soon) > 92 bmw K-1 (up for sale) (really pretty > 99 valkyrie on its way orange an black > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:07:33 +0200 >socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! EX-K1 or K2 NOHARLY HDSUCKS : ) That's about all I can think about....right now... (7 letters right ?) Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile ST pics online ! http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Madeleine and Joel Kasof To: Sent: donderdag 7 oktober 1999 5:17 Subject: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years subscription to motorcycle consumer news joel kasof cupertino calif 99 aspencade(black beauty) 98 pc (wong wing) 98 helix (twin turbos coming soon) 92 bmw K-1 (up for sale) (really pretty 99 valkyrie on its way orange an black -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rocheux@juno.com by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ENBVCJEY; Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:30:06 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:28:11 -0400 Subject: PC800: Rocky's leaving for a while I, Rocky, do hereby attest to the fact that I am going off the net 4awhile. Anyone wanting me may write Rocheux@juno.com I apologize for any suffering or inconvenience due to my absence. Rocky in byesville ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-54929U30000L30000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:48:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Wilson" To: "Madeleine and Joel Kasof" , Subject: Re: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:49:16 -0500 MY 401K Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Madeleine and Joel Kasof To: Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:17 PM Subject: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie > > the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years > subscription to > motorcycle consumer news socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! > > > joel kasof cupertino calif > > 99 aspencade(black beauty) > 98 pc (wong wing) > 98 helix (twin turbos coming soon) > 92 bmw K-1 (up for sale) (really pretty > 99 valkyrie on its way orange an black > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:16:58 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: For Sale - ProTech black leather chaps For sale- ************************** ProTech chaps. Black, size XL (for up to about a 40-42 in. waist). Legs never trimmed, and plenty long for my 34 in. inseam. Brass belt buckle in front, leather lacing in back to adjust waist size. Brass zipper on the outside of each leg. Heavy-weight motorcycle-grade leather. Good condition. $50. Chris, Falls Church, VA (703)534-1510, chris@toward.com ************************** thanks, Chris -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '94 Yamaha Virago 535 Special <--------- FOR SALE '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <--------------- FOR SALE '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Nossin, E.M. - SPLKK" To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:14:50 +0200 Or small variation to this theme: HARDLEY (gotta do something to let people know you're riding a real motorcycle and not a HD now that you've bought it in HD colors) Emile > ---------- > From: Emile Nossin[SMTP:Emile@Cybercomm.nl] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:07 AM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie > > >socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! > > EX-K1 or K2 > > NOHARLY > > HDSUCKS : ) > > That's about all I can think about....right now... > (7 letters right ?) > > Emile > '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > http://fly.to/emile ST pics online ! > http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Madeleine and Joel Kasof > To: > Sent: donderdag 7 oktober 1999 5:17 > Subject: PC800: osmetic plate for my new valkyrie > > > > the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years > subscription to > motorcycle consumer news joel kasof cupertino calif > > 99 aspencade(black beauty) > 98 pc (wong wing) > 98 helix (twin turbos coming soon) > 92 bmw K-1 (up for sale) (really pretty > 99 valkyrie on its way orange an black > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:18:17 -0400 From: cen13504 To: cnorloff@norloff.com, pc list , BMillman@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: touch up paint Chris and Brian, > Thanks, I'd like to know the color code. My "new to me" '90 doesn't need it now, but I may as well accept the inevitable ... The paint that I have used to touch up the Candy Glory Red is a Dupli-Color product. It is labelled Scratch-Fix / Touch-Up. The color code is SF FM 317 for Ford Motor Company, Electric Currant Red (M) with Clearcoat 1996-1990. The color is as close as you can get for $2.35. The paint comes in a small metal container with it's own brush. If you have a hard time finding it let me know and I will mail one to you. Kenneth Winter East TN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:34:39 -0400 Subject: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rocheux@juno.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Mounting my Soapbox... What has happened to his Pacific Coast mailing list? Lately I see more messages about people's Valkyries, ST1100s, BMWs and the like than I do about the reason the list is here- TO SUPPORT THE HONDA PACIFIC COAST OWNERS. We even seem to have an over abundance of non-motorcycle related humor messages that people insist on replying to via the List rather than direct email. I suspect this non-Pacific Coast chatter is driving many long time contributors to sign off (Rocky is one I'm guessing) hopefully only temporarily, but who knows. I know we tend to become "electronically friendly" through this list, but that's where personal email enters the picture. I know I too have been guilty of responding to the list, as well as the person who sent the message, when the list response was not really appropriate. I have been trying to restrict this urge and only reply to both when I feel my response, Pacific Coast related of course, is something worthy of cluttering up your mailboxes. I have nothing to do with the set up or running of this list. I'm only a contributor like most of the rest of you and this is just my opinion (IMHO). I have met many great new friends, face-to-face in the US and Canada, through this list that I would not have met otherwise. I'd hate to lose the possibility of meeting up with more just because they were overwhelmed by the non-Pacific Coast related messages and signed off before we could make contact. Now dismounting from my soapbox, sorry if I wasted your bandwidth... If the urge to reply is overwhelming, please do so off list unless your reply is one that you think will be of benefit to the rest of the group. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:40:23 -0700 Here, Here !! I second the motion. Maybe people are just talked out on the Pacific Coast. Personally, I think that everything that could be covered, has been. New subscribers will always ask questions that have been answered in the archives, partly because they are new and don't know how to use the archives, and partly because people in general only want the quick answer, instead of learning how to find it. I have no problem with that, until it becomes evident that the requester just doesn't want to invest any time finding things out for him/her self. I sometime question the need to post extensive trip reports, and I usually just skip over them, as hardly any are in California, and I don't think I would want to ride across the U.S. to go there (time constraints). I guess the relevance to the list, would be to describe a route, that might perk someone else's interest in wanting to travel it. The thing that really surprises me is the number of people that learn about the Pacific Coast through this list, buy one, and then next thing you hear from them is that they are selling it to buy an ST or BMW or Concourse or some other mount. We true believers must be a very special group, unlike most who ride purely for the thrill of speed and horsepower. The PC was conceived to be a commuter bike, one that business executives would not be afraid to ride to work, for fear of ruining their $1000 suits. The trunk designed to take an average size briefcase, a feat that I have never seen any "saddlebag" accomplish. We found out that it is also a good all around bike. Able to do 2-up touring and has plenty of power to slalom through the twisties. Just my .02 Hope I haven't ruffled too many feathers this time. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 12k > ---------- > From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 8:34 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Cc: rocheux@juno.com > Subject: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? > > Mounting my Soapbox... > > What has happened to his Pacific Coast mailing list? Lately I see > more messages about people's Valkyries, ST1100s, BMWs and the like > than I do about the reason the list is here- TO SUPPORT THE HONDA > PACIFIC COAST OWNERS. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:53:38 EDT Subject: PC800: Tim Davies Soapbox To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Right on Tim !!!! Well said. I am new to the list and also new to the PC as I have only had it a little less than a year.I do not mind hearing about other bikes and how they compare to the PC's but when people start talking about and asking questions about other bikes that have nothing to due with the list it wastes my time. I get many other e-mails that I must read / answer plus the 20 to 30 a day PC800 list ones. All this reading is cutting into my riding time. I have been very luckly to find this list as I have met many new friends and had many questions answer which has saved me a lot of money. I hope we can get the list back to the " Coasters " to keep us together. Just my thoughts on the subjects JIm T Beachwood NJ 1996 PC 800 39900 K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "Pc800 (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Hats off to Russ Vernon Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:02:54 -0400 This may have already been covered, but I found a letter written by Russ Vernon on the Motorcycle Consumer News site. It explained a lot. Thanks Russ! (You can find the letter at the URL below) http://www.mcnews.com/depts/df699a.html Chris Barrett Columbus, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:45:58 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-PC800" Subject: PC800: Runs "lumpy" with the choke on I'm new to this world of 2-cylinder motorcycles. I'm surprised how "lumpy" the engine feels when the choke is engaged and I'm accelerating. Do other PC's feel a lot "rougher" or "lumpier" when running with the choke on versus with no choke and a warm engine? thanks, Chris -- Chris Norloff, Virginia '94 Yamaha Virago 535 Special <--------- FOR SALE '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <--------------- FOR SALE '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:23:57 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: plate for my new valkyrie Joel Kasof wrote: > the grand prize for the wnner of the cosmetic plate will be a one years > subscription to > motorcycle consumer news socmon everyone lets et creative!!!! Joel, it has been fun contributing ideas for your new plate. Here is some food for thought: I've always been of the opinion that a plate should reflect something about the owner, not the vehicle. That way, when you decide to replace said vehicle, the plate remains with you, and you don't have to put it on a bike for which it no longer applies. Since I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you (yet), giving suggestions for your plate is a bit difficult. Like I said, MHO, etc, etc. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:09:51 -0400 From: Bill McKenna ...... ....... Augusta Rotary Club http://www.augustarotary.org To: Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: PC800: Yaaahd Sale Garmin GPS3-lnib Remmington Celestial 3 man/season tent- nlnbeib Thermarest full size 3/4"-ug Midland 75-805-uvg Accepting offers. Shipping agent now standing by... All proceeds to benefit the Billy Fund. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA Say "YES" to Life!! Visit the New England Ride for Kids(R) Page @ http://go.to/nerfk ~ 1998 NERFK: A Great Beginning ~ 1999 NERFK: An Astounding Success! Thank You!! ~ ~ Join us August 20, 2000, your Mother would like that ;) ~ ~ 1000 bikes in 2000 ~ ~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:18:17 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: cnorloff@norloff.com CC: List-PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Runs "lumpy" with the choke on Chris Norloff wrote: > > I'm new to this world of 2-cylinder motorcycles. I'm surprised how "lumpy" the engine feels when the choke is engaged and I'm accelerating. > > Do other PC's feel a lot "rougher" or "lumpier" when running with the choke on versus with no choke and a warm engine? > > thanks, > Chris Chris, My PC feels pretty sluggish until it warms up a bit, especially when it is in the 40's with the choke on. I guess that is sort of the nature of the beast. I usually start it up when cold with the choke on, drive off, and after getting past a stop sign, and then getting her up to speed, I turn off the choke. However, she still is sluggish until I get about 5 miles under her. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ENCT7KN5; Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:29:09 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:22:23 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? From: Joyce D Calvert Ditto. I'm deleting more than I'm reading these days. I use this list. I like it when I learn something new -- about my bike and riding in general. I also like the humor that we naturally throw in. I've actually learned new things from the humorous posts (e.g., boxers vs. briefs). But, I don't have an ST, or a BMW, or . . . you get the point. Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ENCT7KQG; Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:29:09 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:25:50 -0700 Subject: PC800: Mags Bags From: Joyce D Calvert I can't remember who wanted me to go to Sonora and ask Mags Bags to custom size one for the PC. Selden? I'm going brain dead. Write me if you're still interested in getting a PC to Sonora and to Margo of Mags Bags. I will be going on the infamous Death Valley ride this weekend and might be willing to take a side trip. Besides, might be my only chance left this year to go on a long-ish ride. Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:40:14 EDT Subject: PC800: Floorboards To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Has the question of Floorboards ever been raised ?? I am trying to bring up the past e-mails at this time with not much luck. I would like to put a little larger peg or board for confort. Any help would be great Jim T Beachwood NJ 1996 PC 800 Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: wings@armchair.mb.ca Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: more info. on JackAll lift from LORDCO Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:45:35 PDT Alright guy, Here's more info. on the bike lift I bought, 1. Checked with LORDCO that they have 19 lifts in their central storage in Vancouver. Were they ordered 20 and I got the 1st? Since they never mentioned in their flyer,nor ad. about it, and none a word their webpage mentions. You have to ask. 2. They DO have a webpage, URL http://www.lordco.com 3. LORDCO operates in BC only and nothing outside the province. 4. They don't mind to handle the shipping but they prefer to see the real credit card and wipe it with their card reader. Anyway they welcome inquiries and would like to discuss case by case. This was what Don from LORDCO Victoria branch said. Since the weight for the whole thing is about 80 lb., better check how much the shipping is before making decision in getting it by mail/phone order or go get it yourself. Or if you're in Washington near the border, you can simply drive or ride 2 hrs. up there, get one and have tax refunded. Ferries Port Angeles to Victoria also works. Some other URLs for shipping calculation : http://www.usps.gov http://www.ups.com Hope these help! - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red 1994 CBX750 Police Edition, 1977 CB550 Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 23 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:46:46 EDT Subject: PC800: Cycle World To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I was tolld that Cycle world had a stort about the PC in the July 98. Did anyone see it and is it worth the time and money to get the back issue ?? I also would like to know what magazine is read by Coaster about our type of bike, not the PC per say, but sport / touring, any ideas ???? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:48:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Recently put new OEM tires on the PC at 17.5K this week. Dunlop 555's...I really like them. I have ran 41lbs in the rear and 33 lbs in the front per maximum loading instructions on the PC. This seemed to work great. I noticed on the new tires that the Honda dealer put 31 in the front and 33 in the rear. On my morning commute, the tires felt a lot different and the ride was much different.I like the higher pressures better. Questions: 1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? 2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new and need to be scuffed/worn in to be safe? 3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder if the mech moved the shock adjustment when he was changing the tire. Would that possibly been moved? It at the 2nd from the highest setting currently. OK, all PC content; go for it. Bob ===== Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Battery Maintenance Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:53:20 -0700 Coasters, Just got finished reading an article at Motorcycle Consumer News' web site http://www.mcnews.com/articles/battery.htm that was very informative about the care and feeding of motorcycle batteries. I personally learned something I didn't know about the "sealed, maintenance free" type of batteries that the Pacific Coast uses, that might shed some light to those who have reported seemingly high charge voltage output from their regulators. That being that the battery the PC uses is a Lead-Calcium variant of the traditional Lead Acid battery, and it prefers a charging voltage of between 15 and 16 volts, as opposed to the 13 -14 volts needed by the normal Lead Acid (like in your car) battery. That would explain the reason that the PC's voltage regulator is capable of putting out that much voltage. Although the service manual states charging conditions with more typical voltages. Interesting reading though, as it explains all you need to know about getting the most life from your battery. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 12k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: , "List-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Runs "lumpy" with the choke on Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:08:11 -0400 >I'm new to this world of 2-cylinder motorcycles. I'm surprised how "lumpy" the engine feels when the choke is engaged and I'm accelerating. Duh! (yes) :-) >Do other PC's feel a lot "rougher" or "lumpier" when running with the choke on versus with no choke and a warm engine? Yes! Don't need to do it. The PC it the warmest blooded Honda I've ever owned. Full choke, start the bike, close the choke to 1/2 ride 1 block, close the choke all the way, you're set to go. Mike Whited '94 PC Columbus Ohio >Chris > >-- >Chris Norloff, Virginia > '94 Yamaha Virago 535 Special <--------- FOR SALE > '90 Honda Pacific Coast > '89 BMW K100LT <--------------- FOR SALE > '82 Honda CB750F > '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar >-- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Barrett, Chris" , "Pc800 (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Hats off to Russ Vernon Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:02:48 -0400 Thanks Chris, This means that I can ride all day long @ 115 mph without worring causing catastrophic damage to my PC. I'm not likely to do this, but I have been known to do it @ 90/95 mph. (BTW gas milage sucks @ this speed) Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Barrett, Chris To: Pc800 (E-mail) Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: PC800: Hats off to Russ Vernon >This may have already been covered, but I found a letter written by Russ >Vernon on the Motorcycle Consumer News site. It explained a lot. >Thanks Russ! > >(You can find the letter at the URL below) > >http://www.mcnews.com/depts/df699a.html > > >Chris Barrett >Columbus, Ohio >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Bob Broeking" , Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:16:07 -0400 >Questions: > >1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? Maximum, >2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new and need to be scuffed/worn in >to be safe? Don't know.(good guess) >3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder if the mech moved the shock >adjustment when he was changing the tire. Would that possibly been moved? It at the 2nd from the >highest setting currently. I have progressive shocks, preloaded to my specs. non adjustable. I doubt if your's were changed in the shop. I'd try out different setting to see which on suited my riding style best. >OK, all PC content; go for it. Bob > >===== >Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net > 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 > bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 18:33:57 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Bike Show I know this is early, but I'm planning to make the Cycle World Bike Show in St. Louis on saturday, January 14th. If anyone else is thinking about going, maybe we can meet somewhere. Ralph Couey Columbia, Missouri -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: KC2ATQ@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Cycle World Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:03:44 PDT >From: KC2ATQ@aol.com >I was tolld that Cycle world had a stort about the PC in the July 98. Did >anyone see it and is it worth the time and money to get the back issue ?? I >also would like to know what magazine is read by Coaster about our type of >bike, not the PC per say, but sport / touring, any ideas ???? Hey KC, For my money Motorcycle Consumer News is about the best, closely followed by Rider, Motorcycle Tour and Cruiser, Cycle World and Cruiser. These are the four that end up in my mailbox each month. Motorcycle Consumer News is darn expensive and only black and white pics but the writing is worth it. Rider is a very slick publication and the content is pretty well spread out amoung the various types of motorcycling. Cycle World has a tendency to focus on the sport bikes but the writing is excellent as is the photography. MT&C has a good selection of touring stuff and Cruiser is just that, cruisers, with the occasional article on the touring cruisers. I did not, as my poor memory serves, read the article on the PC. They probably didn't like it very much because they, like most of the moto mags, didn't understand the PC and didn't want to take the time to get to know Honda's most unappreciated motorcycle. Their loss. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: FAMOUS LAST WORDS Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:08:09 PDT Emile, And the one most often heard here in the South, "Hey, yuall watch this !" Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:22:02 -0700 >Mounting my Soapbox... > >What has happened to his Pacific Coast mailing list? I wish to wade in on this topic. My point of view: I've been a lister for about two months, bought a PC, crashed it, and am currently in the insurance process of finding a replacement. The delights of being a part of this group: Intelligent responses to questions. I asked for input about my accident and got some really top notch replies. I hope this was of interest to all or most. (Many of these contained wishes for my speedy recovery. I really appreciated them; perhaps they could have been off list but they helped my attitude, hence my progress. Thank you for those.) Humor that is accessible to anyone (not just insider jokes between two parties). This is on-topic stuff, best described as a warmth and gentling in the exchange of words. I left another group because the main expert had to put everyone else down in the process of sharing his expertise. Wasn't worth it for me! Literature. David Smith's account of his Iron Butt accomplishment was delightful reading. That it was on a PC enhanced it some, but that it connected some dots on the List picture was really keen. Life is all about sharing stories; why not here when it's about what we have in common. Names of bikes. I love 'em! Still haven't chosen my own, but they all make me smile. And of course, buckets and buckets of valuable information, ideas and opinions. These all represent shortcuts for a new lister/owner. Slight disadvantages of being here: The occasional insider oneliner. Sometimes lotsa messages to wade through. Sometimes subject headers could be updated a smidgen. The future? I have searched the archives, like for info about switching front fenders from the Frisbee to the Dark Side Unit. Very helpful. But is the stuff there all static? I think not. New members, new opinions, new combinations of ideas. I would hope that all I am absorbing now might be returned someday to others, having been sintered on the anvil of my own riding experience (though right now, asphalt seems to be the symbolic anvil when I stop to think about it). I, too, would like to see less stuff about non-PC bikes. I really enjoyed the thread about Bikes we have Owned, because that was part of our storytelling, as in "how we got here." I would be tempted to troll the list if I wanted to put together a group ride, but I would be more inclined to make the final arrangements off list, to the respondents, than to keep that thread going for all to plow through. Regards, Lee Barker Oregon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill Jarrells" To: "PC800 List" , Subject: Re: PC800: Cycle World Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:37:22 -0400 There is no mention of the PC800 in the July 1998 issue of Cycle World. I just flipped through the mag. Wish there was. Bill Jarrells Columbus, Ohio 89 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 6:46 PM Subject: PC800: Cycle World > I was tolld that Cycle world had a stort about the PC in the July 98. Did > anyone see it and is it worth the time and money to get the back issue ?? I > also would like to know what magazine is read by Coaster about our type of > bike, not the PC per say, but sport / touring, any ideas ???? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 20:49:14 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Floorboards To: KC2ATQ@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) KC2ATQ@aol.com writes: >Has the question of Floorboards ever been raised ?? I am trying to >bring up >the past e-mails at this time with not much luck. I would like to >put a >little larger peg or board >for confort. Any help would be great > >Jim T >Beachwood NJ >1996 PC 800 >Givi E460 There was someone at the Honda HomeComing the past two years who installed floor boards on his PC800. I did not see the bike this year but someone in our group said he had a sign on the bike in the parking lot about the floor boards and who to contact. Francois Saint Laurent might have more information (fsl@borgconsulting.com), or you might check with Steve Scudder (greyhound@bizgroup.net). Steve was there last year. I'm not sure, but I think Steve knew the fellow who installed them. I don't think the guy is on the pc800 list because he did not say anything about joining up with us this year for our Coaster Gathering in Ohio. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bill & Helen Jarrells" To: "PC800 List" Subject: PC800: Re:Best Bike Mags? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:58:08 -0400 I have about a three year collection of several mags: Cycle World, Motorcyclist, Sport Rider, American Motorcyclist, Motorcycle Consumer News (1 year), Rider (1 year), and even BMW Owners News (1 year). I also have several issues of other mags like Boulevard, Cruiser, Performance Bike, and Bike. Out of all that I am going to keep MCN and Rider at renewal time. Of course American Motorcyclist will keep coming (AMA Member). Sport Rider and Cycle World support Sport Bikes. Motorcyclist is better than the prvious two but not much. Rider and MCN are great mags. Also, there is a really cool on-line mag at: http://207.168.125.101/default.htm Don't let the front page pictures fool you. This is a damn good site (IMHO). FWIW Bill Jarrells Columbus, Ohio 1989 PC800 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 6:46 PM > Subject: PC800: Cycle World > > > > I was tolld that Cycle world had a stort about the PC in the July 98. Did > > anyone see it and is it worth the time and money to get the back issue ?? > I > > also would like to know what magazine is read by Coaster about our type of > > bike, not the PC per say, but sport / touring, any ideas ???? > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AED792002A; Thu, 07 Oct 1999 21:54:31 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Bob Broeking" , "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:49:41 -0400 I just installed new K555's also. I assumed the lines on there were to represent that they were new.... I guess I run the same pressure as you..... 33 and 41... shock adjustment..... all the way up (the stiffest position). The service mgr told me that my old tires were worn evenly and were normal... he told me to keep doing what I had been. My uncle uses the psi. reccomendations on the tire ( I am not sure what they are). He feels that the tire people know more than the motorcycle people. I told him that was the MAX pressure listed... not the recommended pressure. He still puts the max in there and he did get about 3000 more miles than I did. We both have 97's and rode about 75% together on the same roads. I dont know if it was the riding style or if the pressure did make a difference. However, I use the psi. suggestions from Honda. Hope it helps. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bob Broeking To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 6:48 PM Subject: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related > Recently put new OEM tires on the PC at 17.5K this week. Dunlop 555's...I really like them. I > have ran 41lbs in the rear and 33 lbs in the front per maximum loading instructions on the PC. > This seemed to work great. I noticed on the new tires that the Honda dealer put 31 in the front > and 33 in the rear. On my morning commute, the tires felt a lot different and the ride was much > different.I like the higher pressures better. > > Questions: > > 1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? > 2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new and need to be scuffed/worn in > to be safe? > 3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder if the mech moved the shock > adjustment when he was changing the tire. Would that possibly been moved? It at the 2nd from the > highest setting currently. > > OK, all PC content; go for it. Bob > > ===== > Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net > 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 > bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: plate for my new valkyrie Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:31:19 -0700 Actually Joel, you might want to take this question to the Valkyrie SIG message boards at either: http://bbs.gwrra.org/gwboard/special/valkyrie/index.html http://www.f6rider.com/ Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tony Miller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC relate d Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:48:11 -0400 Bob: 1) I run mine at maximum pressure. 2) The lines are put on the tread for identification purposes, mostly. I'll give you an example. We (Dunlop) made several OE tires for Toyota, and they wanted certain (unique) colors of stripes on each. That way, they could identify them quickly, without having to read the numbers on the tires. Sometimes the stripes are also put on there for alignment purposes, in other words, so that an inspector can clearly see if a tire was cocked in the mold. 3) I weigh almost 200 lbs., and sometimes ride two up, so I keep my suspension on the firmest setting. Works for me! By the way, I do not know about motorcycle tires, but as far as passenger car tires go, OE tires are different than replacement tires. Even if they have the same model number printed on the sidewall. You can check the SKU number (down close to the bead) to be sure if two tires are in fact the same. Note that the SKU number is a different number than the DOT number. What I'm saying is, that a certain tire might be called an Eagle GT, but the tires that came on your car originally are generally not the same Eagle GT that you would buy at the Goodyear store. They are tweaked for each OE application, sometimes in significant ways. Like I said, I do not know how much this applies to motorcycle tires, but I suspect that it does. Tony '97 w/7,500 miles > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Broeking [SMTP:bob_broeking@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:49 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC > related > > Recently put new OEM tires on the PC at 17.5K this week. Dunlop 555's...I > really like them. I > have ran 41lbs in the rear and 33 lbs in the front per maximum loading > instructions on the PC. > This seemed to work great. I noticed on the new tires that the Honda > dealer put 31 in the front > and 33 in the rear. On my morning commute, the tires felt a lot different > and the ride was much > different.I like the higher pressures better. > > Questions: > > 1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? > 2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new and > need to be scuffed/worn in > to be safe? > 3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder if > the mech moved the shock > adjustment when he was changing the tire. Would that possibly been moved? > It at the 2nd from the > highest setting currently. > > OK, all PC content; go for it. Bob > > ===== > Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net > 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 > bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:09:45 -0400 To: KC2ATQ@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Floorboards Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 6:40 PM -0400 10/7/99, KC2ATQ@aol.com wrote: >Has the question of Floorboards ever been raised ?? I am trying to bring up >the past e-mails at this time with not much luck. I would like to put a >little larger peg or board >for confort. Any help would be great > >Jim T >Beachwood NJ >1996 PC 800 >Givi E460 I saw the 89 PC800 at the Homecoming this year that had the floorboards installed. The owner had his phone number on his windshield but unfortunately I didn't write it down. The boards looked pretty good. The folded up, as boards do, and the bracket they were attached to also retracted upwards. It was a pretty slick installation. On another note, another nice gadget I saw at a rally were the wind deflectors for the PC800 that mount under the front crash bars. I met a gentlemen at Americade who had used those mud flaps that you see on a Saab that are mounted under the car about half way between the front and rear wheels. They looked pretty good, and he claimed that they work quite well. Oh well......next time I'll write down the info! ride safe fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: Subject: Re: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:20:07 -0500 >What I'm saying is, that a certain tire might be called an Eagle GT, but the >tires that came on your car originally are generally not the same Eagle GT >that you would buy at the Goodyear store. They are tweaked for each OE >application, sometimes in significant ways. This isn't a PC comment, but one that I just read recently to support this thought. Chevy is going to come out with a police version of the new Impala. ( I know, a V6 front drive cop car - what a joke...). The kicker is that it will use the same size and model of Goodyear tire as the ubiquitous Crown Vic- a P235/60R16 Eagle GS-A I believe. So, it sounds like one tire could be stocked if a municipality had both cars, right? WRONG. Same tire, same model, but the tires ARE specifically different for each car, according to Goodyear... So, (here's where it gets PC related...) does the Dunlop K555 that goes on the front of the PC the same tire that goes on the front of every other Honda that has the same tire size specified? (I know there is at least one other - a Shadow maybe...?) I guess it does... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 21,300 miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tony Miller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 9:54 PM Subject: RE: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC related >Bob: > >1) I run mine at maximum pressure. > >2) The lines are put on the tread for identification purposes, mostly. I'll >give you an example. We (Dunlop) made several OE tires for Toyota, and they >wanted certain (unique) colors of stripes on each. That way, they could >identify them quickly, without having to read the numbers on the tires. > >Sometimes the stripes are also put on there for alignment purposes, in other >words, so that an inspector can clearly see if a tire was cocked in the >mold. > >3) I weigh almost 200 lbs., and sometimes ride two up, so I keep my >suspension on the firmest setting. Works for me! > >By the way, I do not know about motorcycle tires, but as far as passenger >car tires go, OE tires are different than replacement tires. Even if they >have the same model number printed on the sidewall. You can check the SKU >number (down close to the bead) to be sure if two tires are in fact the >same. Note that the SKU number is a different number than the DOT number. > >What I'm saying is, that a certain tire might be called an Eagle GT, but the >tires that came on your car originally are generally not the same Eagle GT >that you would buy at the Goodyear store. They are tweaked for each OE >application, sometimes in significant ways. Like I said, I do not know how >much this applies to motorcycle tires, but I suspect that it does. > >Tony > >'97 w/7,500 miles > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Broeking [SMTP:bob_broeking@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:49 PM >> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> Subject: PC800: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks - all PC >> related >> >> Recently put new OEM tires on the PC at 17.5K this week. Dunlop 555's...I >> really like them. I >> have ran 41lbs in the rear and 33 lbs in the front per maximum loading >> instructions on the PC. >> This seemed to work great. I noticed on the new tires that the Honda >> dealer put 31 in the front >> and 33 in the rear. On my morning commute, the tires felt a lot different >> and the ride was much >> different.I like the higher pressures better. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? >> 2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new and >> need to be scuffed/worn in >> to be safe? >> 3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder if >> the mech moved the shock >> adjustment when he was changing the tire. Would that possibly been moved? >> It at the 2nd from the >> highest setting currently. >> >> OK, all PC content; go for it. Bob >> >> ===== >> Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net >> 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 >> bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Runs "lumpy" with the choke on "MTW" writes: > The PC it the warmest blooded Honda I've ever owned. > > Full choke, start the bike, close the choke to 1/2 ride 1 block, > close the choke all the way, you're set to go. I'll second this; I've owned Hondas since 1965, and the PC runs well without any choke in less time than any other motorcycle I've owned. This is one reason why I don't worry rejetting after switching to a K&N air filter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks Bob Broeking writes: > Questions: > > 1) Those with 555's - what pressure do you run them at? SSD: Solo: 37 front (BT50) 37 rear (K555); two-up: 42 psi rear. Running the rear tire at max inflation solo *may* lead to the center tread wearing out slightly prematurely (squaring off). Generally a little bit of overinflation is greatly preferable to underinflation for both handling and tire wear > 2) What are the color lines on new tires, to show that they are new > and need to be scuffed/worn in to be safe? SSD: This is my understanding. Generally 50-100 miles should be plenty to scuff a set of tires. > 3) Where do people keep their suspension at...I am starting to wonder > if the mech moved the shock adjustment when he was changing the tire. > Would that possibly been moved? It at the 2nd from the > highest setting currently. SSD: This is sort of like asking how long your pants should be, as the answer depends on the size of the rider. I'm just under 5' 8" and weigh about 150. I find that the suspension bottoms, solo, on large bumps (such as speed bumps, railroad crossings) on the softest position, so I normally set it to +1. Two-up, I push the adjuster all the way forward to full preload, and have never felt the rear suspension bottom out. However, if I leave it in this setting for solo riding, I am unable to flat foot the bike at stops. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:26:25 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Re: OEM Tire thoughts/Questions and Shocks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 10/8/99 8:07:19 AM Central Daylight Time, libssd@emory.edu writes: > I find that the suspension bottoms, solo, > on large bumps (such as speed bumps, railroad crossings) on the > softest position, so I normally set it to +1. Two-up, I push the > adjuster all the way forward to full preload, and have never felt > the rear suspension bottom out. These are the same positions I prefer the suspension to be set at. As far as tire pressure, I like to trend toward the max pres. recommended by the tire manufacturer. In addition to enhancing handling and tire wear, I think this eliminates the front end wobble which can present itself in the 35 to 45mph range. (at least that was my experience) Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:31:17 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Where is all the PC800 Info? To: greatned@cascade.quik.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us CC: rocheux@juno.com In a message dated 10/7/99 6:22:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time, greatned@cascade.quik.com writes: << I, too, would like to see less stuff about non-PC bikes. I really enjoyed the thread about Bikes we have Owned, because that was part of our storytelling, as in "how we got here." >> Well said as usual, Lee: I too keep my finger dangling over the "delete" key when scrolling thru the list. I really am as guilty as anyone about the occasional drifting from the original format of the list. I really do not care to read about the new rotary cylinder 7 speed Yamahonski that you have bought, as is has nothing to do with the Best Motorcycle of Them All: The Pacific Coast. I will try to keep my .02 regulated to THE BIKE OF BIKES if everyone else will. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:32:46 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Cycle World To: KC2ATQ@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Jim -- You're correct -- an article does appear in Cycle World concerning the Pacific Coast. It's a Quick Ride feature with 2 photographs and entitled HOND A PACIFIC COAST Have trunk, will travel. I cut the article from the magazine and didn't include the issue date; however, it was 1998. The article was written by Wendy Black who labeled the PC as "a scooter on steroids" while acknowledging that there is a "small but intensely loyal cadre of PC800 owners who swear by the machines in an almost Harley-Davidsonesque manner." I can Fax it to you or shoot a digital image and post a www to view it. Gordon Creed Washington, DC 96 PC800 29K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:01:43 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: (PC800) Subject: Re: PC800: Cycle World ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: W7KJD@aol.com >The article was written by Wendy Black who labeled the PC as "a scooter on >steroids" while acknowledging that there is a "small but intensely loyal >cadre of PC800 owners who swear by the machines in an almost >Harley-Davidsonesque manner." And writers like Wendy Black and her ilk have done their best to kill Honda's brave attempt to get more people into motorcycling. We could use more engineering companies like Honda and fewer writers like Wendy Black. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Best Bike Mags? To: Bill & Helen Jarrells Cc: PC800 --- Bill & Helen Jarrells wrote: > Also, there is a really cool on-line mag at: > http://207.168.125.101/default.htm > Don't let the front page pictures fool you. This is > a damn good site > (IMHO). > > FWIW > Bill Jarrells > Columbus, Ohio > 1989 PC800 www.activebike.com also works. I remember the first time I checked out this site. There was a story called Terminal Velocity A good read with a sad ending. I just read it again and it's a story you don't really forget. It's been awhile since I have been to the site. Looks like there are some more stories to check out. I guess I have some reading in the near future. ===== Later Roger R Chaska, MN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) 8 Oct 1999 10:02:44 -0500 (CDT) 08 Oct 1999 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 10:35:06 -0400 From: Dallas Thomason Subject: PC800: Engine Numbers? To: PC800-List boundary="Boundary_(ID_bsPyk+0PcSWLTdP2Mn+YPw)" X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Provider: US Net - Advanced Internet Services - 301-361-USNET - info@us.net Where Business Connects! (tm) -- http://www.us.net/ --Boundary_(ID_bsPyk+0PcSWLTdP2Mn+YPw) Where is the engine number and what do I have to remove to see it. Went to tag the PC800 and in the middle of the form is engine number. Back home I went to get same. _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD --Boundary_(ID_bsPyk+0PcSWLTdP2Mn+YPw)
Where is the engine number and what do I have to remove to see it.
 
 
Went to tag the PC800 and in the middle of the form is engine number.  Back home I went to get same. 
 
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Dallas Thomason
1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl"
Silver Spring, MD
--Boundary_(ID_bsPyk+0PcSWLTdP2Mn+YPw)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:11:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:48:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Tim Davies Soapbox There is a solution, if you feel there is a low signal to noise ratio on the PC800 list. Unsubscribe, then track the list through the web archive. For example, the following URL will take you directly to the chronological index for October's messages: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9910/ On the first of the month I change the last part of the URL to fit the current month. Fortunately, the list owner permits posts from non-members, a policy that I hope will continue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Todd M. Paxman" To: "Dallas Thomason" , "PC800-List" Subject: RE: PC800: Engine Numbers? Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:50:03 -0700 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Todd M. Paxman" I just went through this. But I started taking plastic off in the DMV parking lot, with the inspector looking on. The frame number is on the right fork; you only have to take of the plastic panel under the right handlebar and use a flashlight to see it. For the engine number, take off the right air duct and side panel (one screw). The engine # is stamped on the low side of the engine, but visible with a flashlight. Hope this helps. Regards, ____________________ Todd M. Paxman Ashworth Leininger Group Thousand Oaks, CA tpaxman@algcorp.com -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Dallas Thomason Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 7:35 AM To: PC800-List Subject: PC800: Engine Numbers? Where is the engine number and what do I have to remove to see it. Went to tag the PC800 and in the middle of the form is engine number. Back home I went to get same. _______________ Dallas Thomason 1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl" Silver Spring, MD 0 DocumentEmail

I = just went through this.  But I = started taking plastic off in the DMV parking lot, with the inspector looking = on. The frame number is on the right fork; you only have to take of the plastic = panel under the right handlebar and use a flashlight to see it. For the engine number, take off the right air duct and side panel (one screw). The = engine # is stamped on the low side of the engine, but visible with a = flashlight.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On = Behalf Of Dallas Thomason
Sent: Friday, October 08, = 1999 7:35 AM
To: PC800-List
Subject: PC800: Engine = Numbers?

 

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Went to tag the PC800 and in the middle of the form is engine number.  Back = home I went to get same. 

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Dallas Thomason
1989, PC800 "Perky Pearl"
Silver Spring, MD

-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by crcst349.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 8 Oct 1999 16:41:46 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 8 Oct 99 12:49:44 EDT From: Doug Holstein To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: What your PC says about you Coasters, [If this information has already been posted to the list, please accept m= y apologies for taking up the bandwidth.] Cycle World magazine, November '99: In the monthly "Leanings" column by Peter Egan, entitled "What your bike = says about you," the author has some fun with matching up thumbnail impression= s of riders with their rides. These impressions are expressed as something th= e rider would say if you encountered them on the road. For instance, for the BMW R1100RT rider the impression is, "The sound sys= tem on my bike is permanently tuned to Public Radio, but when I play it too l= oud I can't hear the cell phone." = OK, here it is: = The PC rider would say, "I am among that very small minority of human bei= ngs who honestly don't care what anybody else thinks. If I did, I'd probably= own a bike just like yours." BTW, I don't own a PC, but I have been thinking about it. Still am. --Doug Holstein Chapel Hill, NC ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:12:31 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: What your PC says about you ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Holstein >The PC rider would say, "I am among that very small minority of human >beings who honestly don't care what anybody else thinks. ... >BTW, I don't own a PC, but I have been thinking about it. Still am. But Doug, you know we don't care what you think. :-) Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Invitation to PC 800 Himmelfahrt Rally in Germany 1-4 June 2000 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:29:31 +0200 Hi , I got this invitation from Buckhard in Germany regarding their PC 800 Club's yearly Himmelfarht Rally in Germany. I have put an english version of the info on My homepage. Anyone ??? Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:05:53 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Invitation to PC 800 Himmelfahrt Rally in Germany 1-4 June 2000 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:13:09 +0200 Hi , I got this info from Buckhard in Germany regarding their PC 800 Club's yearly Himmelfarht Rally in Germany. Anyone ??? 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