********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:26:25 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: RickCorwn@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lake Superior Ride RickCorwn@aol.com wrote: > > Fellow Coasters, > On Labor Day I'll be leaving to Ride around Lake Superior. I plan on taking 7 > days to complete the trip. I'm looking for input from anyone who's got some > good ideas on roads, lodging, sights, restaurants. I'm especially looking for > info about the Canadian side. I'd also like to meet up with any of you who > might be along the route. > > I've just gotten a few small things done to the bike before this trip. I > installed a 65-100 watt headlight, although riding at night in this area is > unwise, many deer and even moose. I complemented the headlight with some > 2357s in the tail lights, put on the handle bar risers and got a Chase Harper > 750 tank bag. I of course will have one of my new Platypus Hoser hydration > system and an ultaclamp for taking still photos from the PC on the move. I'll > be away from my E mail after Friday the 3rd so please respond before that. > > Ride swift, ride safe > > Rick Corwine Rick, M-123 is a nice road and the Tanquamenon falls are on the way. Check them out. Looks like a river of root beer. Pictured Rocks National Seashore is quite cool. I am not really familiar with that area, but here are some URL's that should provide you with some info. Hope this helps. http://www.byways.org/pages/state_byways.html http://www.execpc.com/~ytk/st_list.htm Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:42:31 -0400 From: Janet Spencer To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Panzer motorcycles Those of you who can't envision new 'old' panheads, go visit Panzer's web site. I really don't know anything much about them, except I really can't imagine doing the IronButt on one. http://www.kettering.edu/~roge6868/pan/home.html Janet 1995 Pacific Coast Virginia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: aftermarket front fenders Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 05:54:20 -0700 > >Hi-- > >Newbie here. > >I have checked the archives regarding front fender replacement and have >found references only to putting an ST1100 fender on. A good looker, to be >sure, but I am wondering if anyone has put on an aftermarket unit from >Dennis Kirk. The one that could fit is 61-479 on p. 154 of the street bike >catalog. > >I am really enjoying the exchanges in this group. > >I have had my bike nearly three weeks and have new shoes (Metzelers) waiting >to be installed when I can get to the only area shop that balances along >with mounting. Meantime I ride daintily. > >Lee >Ninety Fourinoregon > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:30:50 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Tim and Helen Simmerman , tvhammond@voyager.net, goldwing@pathwaynet.com, lucer@state.mi.us, LANDISR@state.mi.us, shelfer@compuserve.com, lrpmbt@internet1.net, KrisRogers@aol.com, LaMereg@email.msn.com, fbent245@aol.com, CE40Jones@aol.com, Eric and Chris Larson , Duane Luedecking , web10dn4@gte.net, rsouthwell@voyager.net, newbe1@juno.com, laljack@aol.com Subject: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Re: HD Factory Tour] --------------141F509D19F1 FYI Thomas --------------141F509D19F1 (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Sep 1 11:35:06 1999) X-From_: owner-wings@armchair.mb.ca Wed Sep 1 10:47:01 1999 by crab.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 1 Sep 1999 15:08:32 -0000 Delivered-To: wings-outgoing@armchair.mb.ca by onramp.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 1 Sep 1999 14:44:02 -0000 with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:44:38 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:44:31 -0500 From: "Alex Ferda" To: Subject: [Wings] Re: HD Factory Tour X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail-in.voyager.net id KAA22550 Several local GWTA chapters recently toured the HD factoy in Kansas City. They make Sportsters here. Several interesting tid-bits we heard from the tour guides: - Sportsters have ca. 30% foreign made parts content - HD is planning to build an assembly plant in South America - There are Porsche engineers working at the facility (engine design contract, I heard elsewhere) - The Sportster will soon get a twin cam engine The plant also has a mini Sportster museum. The funny part was, that about half of the museum bikes (in glass cases) had oil puddles under them. The sportster factory has a very progressive union contract for which I applause them. Honda has no union contracts for which I applaud them even more. Overall, I was not impressed by the tour. I did not see anything that indicated that HD is really committed to quality. Thorough QA is only performed on every so many bikes (every 50th, I think). The test bike we saw was riddled with paint flaws, chrome flaws, etc. Yes, they caught all those on the test bike. What about the other 49? --------------141F509D19F1-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:19:50 -0300 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider), pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: New Rubber... The Big PC Maint and Repair log has people's comments, and some records of mileage on different tires. Surf up: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and select Show year: all Show system: Tires Details containing: leave it blank and hit the button. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:18:15 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Ann S. Reid" , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: PC800: Phoenix arising Hi Coasters, Just got word from my insurance company (State Farm) yesterday that they are going to fix Black Beauty. I am delighted. The estimate was $1925+ for parts, $139+ for tax and $480.00 for labor for a grand total of $2545.24. Whatever the market value came out to be (they didn't tell me), it was obviously high enough for them not to total the bike. John (my mechanic) is ordering the parts this morning. Yessssss!! (huge grin) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding but not for long '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:18:59 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: "Leland C. Sheppard" CC: "Ann S. Reid" , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising Leland C. Sheppard wrote: > > Hi Coasters, > > Just got word from my insurance company (State Farm) yesterday that they > are going to fix Black Beauty. I am delighted. > > The estimate was $1925+ for parts, $139+ for tax and $480.00 for labor > for a grand total of $2545.24. Whatever the market value came out to be > (they didn't tell me), it was obviously high enough for them not to > total the bike. > > John (my mechanic) is ordering the parts this morning. > > Yessssss!! (huge grin) > Great news Leland. Keep us informed of how things go. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:29:36 -0300 To: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" , "PC800 Mailing List" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Clay & Shelly: The PC800 mailing list archives say that Bryce Ulrich installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, which I think is perfect. He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which exactly it is. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:37:46 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:26:21 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Lake Superior Ride--long response and some off topic To: RickCorwn@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Two weeks ago I completed the north shore ride around Lake Superior in Minnesota and Ontario and have spent time in the eastern end of Michigan's lower penninsula. The Minnesota shore is wonderful. Don't miss the view from the information center on the interstate in Duluth. Great panorama of the lake and good maps of the north shore ride available--I was lucky enough to have found a motorcycle rider working at the desk and he filled me in on a lot. You will probably want to take the old highway from Duluth to the Canadian border. Otherwise part of your trip in on very pleasant superslab that deprives you of some views and local flavor. On this part of the trip I stayed at a motel that is a couple of hundred yards south of the Canadian border crossing. I think the name of the place was Rayner's. Real cheap, clean, has a restaurant. My panelled room was not air conditioned, but it came with two flyswatters (one on either side of the picture window that overlooked two snowmobile trailers and a storage building). Nicest thing is that when I arrived in the rain to get the room, the guy at the desk offered unasked to let me put my motorcycle in their garage to keep it out of the rain. On the Canadian side I basically just rode the highway around without taking any real sidetrips. The towns do not by and large seem to have nicely developed waterfronts, at least not the ones I tried. So going into downtown ThunderBay, for instance, might not be worth your time if you are at all pressed. On the whole road, however, the scenery is marvelous and there is sure a lot of it. Quite fun are all of the "night danger" signs. I ran into very bad fog from fifty miles west of Marathon ("we're in it for the long run"), Ontario, to the town itself. According to people I talked to there, they get a lot of fog blown in off of the lake in that area. So be aware and prepared to use your four-way flashers, if you have them. ****long aside. I get to ride a Harley. Interesting sidenote--as I came into Marathon in thick fog, I could just make out a motel (a Best Western) on my right as well as a sign indicating a street which went into the town itself. Also I saw what was probably a motorcycle coming from the other direction. The fog was so bad that I figured that if I rode into town I might not even be able to see a place to stay, and I sure wasn't going to camp in that kind of weather. So I decided on the spot to go to the motel. As I looked back to what I could see on the road, it was just in time to see the motorcycle, which had been coming from the other direction, pull onto the shoulder and fall over. It proved to be a couple from Michigan coming from the other way. They had been in rain for hours (and were probably as stressed as I was from the rain and fog), saw the motel, and thinking the shoulder was paved, he pulled off onto it in order to make a u-turn. It proved to be soft gravel, his front wheel ploughed, and he and his wife went down on the shoulder in a low speed tipover. His wife was fine, the Harley scratched up, and he messed his back up a bit. The ambulance came and determined that he had bruised some muscles in his back and would probably be sore the next day. The Ontario Provincial Police came (most pleasant to us) and didn't write a report. At this point someone had to get the bike off of the shoulder and over into the motel parking lot across the street. I have never driven a Harley and was reluctant to learn by driving one that had just been dumped on a soft shoulder, but it looked like it was to be my job. Just then a guy came by and stopped (all of this going on in light rain and fog and with police and ambulance and attendant confusion there). He in fact was a Harley rider and in fact had his Harley with him in the covered trailer he was pulling behind his truck. (observation: you can't put your Harley in the back of your pickup truck, if your truck has a camper top on it.) A bunch of who had stopped got the bike up and he then drove it over to the parking lot. Later that evening the couple, who ended up in the room next to me, called and invited me to breakfast the next morning to thank me for the help I had given them. At that time I told them that I was not on a tight schedule and would stick around in the morning until they knew there bike was safe and decided what they were going to do about continuing their trip. The next morning he was having trouble moving his upper body and was certain he could not ride the bike home (the bike's damage was minor and did not appear safety related). So I told them I would help them get the bike to storage, which was provided by the manager of the gas station part of the motel complex. And now the whole point of this story--I finally got to ride a Harley around a parking lot and into a storage space. It rumbled, shook, and was very loud, but fun and adventurous. In fact, I couldn't hear a word anyone said to me as I sat on it at idle. When I left, these really wonderful people (Bill and Kathy by name) had plans to take a bus to Sault Saint Marie, Ontario, where they would be picked up by someone who would drive over from Michigan. ****end of aside. I rode a Harley. When you get into Michigan, there is not a whole lot of road along the lake, but there are wonderful place to get down to the lake. First, after you cross the International Bridge into Sault Saint Marie, Michigan, you may want to stop and see the Soo Locks. It's fascinating to watch the boats literally go up and down on the St. Mary's River. There is a tourist boat that will take you through the locks, which is a lot of fun if you have time, and an interpretive. Another aside--in the summer of 1961 I worked as a laborer for the company that put in the piers (the vertical cement columns) for bridge on the American side to a point slightly east of the Sault Saint Marie power canal; our job stopped where the piers become double columned. And the last thing we did before I left was put in the cement pads the toll booths are located on. Please be properly respectful when you pay your toll! If you are in Michigan's Upper Penninsula (Land of the Yoopers), even if you don't intend to go into the Lower Penninsula (Land of the Trolls, i.e., those who live below the bridge), you must go see and preferably go over the Mackinac Bridge. It is an incredible sight and a glorious ride (about $2.00 each way for a bike). The only acceptable reason not to do this would be extremely high winds. The trip to Mackinac Island is also worth considering but will take up a full day. Also, while in St. Ignace, the town at the north end of the Mackinac Bridge, you must eat a pasty (pronounced "pah stee, has nothing to do with goochie gooch dancing). Pasties are a kind of dough covered meat pie that can be covered with gravy, ketchup, or neither, according to your passion. Some are made to include turnip, some with rutabaga, and some with neither, according to the maker's passion. They are Yooper national food and part of a cultural icon. You will see pasties advertised at a lot of places, but I recommend Bessie's Pasties, which is on the west side of north end of the main street in St. Ignace. If you do go to St. Ignace, to get back to Lake Superior I recommend driving straight west along the north shore of Lake Michigan until you can take a highway north to Grand Marais. Wonderful views of beach, sand dunes, and the northernmost part of lake Michigan. As I said above, in the Upper Penninsula you do not get to drive along the lake much, and you will notice on the map that many of the roads are straight, since they go across drained and undrained cedar swamps and sand flats from pre- and inter- galacial ancestors of the present great lakes. It's lonely, beautiful, and there is a lot of it. And there are a lot of interesting things to go to see on the lake. Going from east to west, you want to go to the Great Lakes Ship Wreck Museum at Whitefish Point. It's right on the lake not far from where the Edmund Fitzgerald went down. Lots of shipwreck remains and the muzak is made up of various ship songs and includes the last voice transmission from the Edmund Fitzgerald. It's worth a side trip for a couple of hours. Someone else mentioned Tahquamenon (sp?) Falls. Great place to go. My wife always says the water looks like root beer. Also go to the town of Grand Marais. It's a gloriously scenic small village right on Lake Superior, has motels, bed and breakfasts, and a fine municipal campground right on the lake--take your pick--as well as a lot of places to eat. Grand Marais is at the eastern end of the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore. The road from town to the office for the National Lakeshore is paved and you can get a lot of information at the office about what all is there. Essentially the Lakeshore is about thirty or forty miles of public land along Lake Superior shore. The shoreline varies from sand bluffs hundreds of feet high to sandstone cliffs dropping off into the lake. The sand road from the office goes the whole distance of the Lakeshore and eventually gets to gravel and pavement to take you to the town of Munising. I have ridden the whole road on a street bike loaded with camping equipment (and a shaft drive) and would not do it again or would I recommend it to others. So you have two good alternatives. There are foottrails from Grand Marais west connecting the campgrounds in the Lake shore. You could have a pleasant hike from town, out into dunes, and then return the same way. Alternatively, if you tolerate sand on a motorcycle well, go in just a little way. See the Au Sable dunes, the Log Slide, and from the Hurricane River Campground hike the one mile trail to the Au Sable Light House (I use a distant shot of this light house, which I took from the trail connecting it to the Log Slide, for my Windows wallpaper). Next after the Hurricane River campground, It a campground with a name like Ten or Twelve mile Campground. It is glorious to see because the sand road into the campground is through birch forest. (I took my son, born in Memphis, to Michigan when he was nine and he still remembers this and refers to it as the "white forest." It is dramatic.) The information about the birch trees will be sufficient to enable the people at the office to identify which campground it is). Going on to Munising preferably by paved road, the harbor and view there are outstanding. There are boat trips to the Pictured Rocks--colorful and wind-eroded sandstone cliffs that are incredible as the light changes on them through the day, a shipwreck tour--the water is incredibly clear and you can see the wrecks through a glass bottom, and a great pasty which is served at a bakery, whose name I can't remember, but it is on the street parallel to and one block south of the east-west highway through town. The bakery is also on the south side of its street and I think is next to a newspaper office. My passion runs out at Munising. Hopefully others will tell you more, especially of the Keewanah (sp?) Penninsula, and ship canal at Houghton, the Porcupine mountains, and others. David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:53:27 -0700 Yes, I could use fresh connectors and wire, except it is not possible to obtain the connectors and crimp contacts in the U.S. The same is true with automobile connectors. Honda will only sell the complete wiring harnesses, at a cost that is excessive for what I want to accomplish. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: rpattee@g-net.net > Reply To: rpattee@g-net.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:26 PM > To: 'PC800 List' > Subject: Re: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors > > Peter... > > I just installed a new tail light..and I *think* I know > what you are asking for..and wouldn't it be just as > easy to make your own from fresh connectors and wire? > > It doesn't seem all that complicated..however, I am not > very electrically minded..I just unplugged the rear > wires to take off the assembly to replace the rear tail > light... > > > > > On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:07:02 -0700, Peter wrote: > > -->Coasters, > --> > --> I remember someone posting receintly that they were parting out a PC. I > am > -->installing my Bushtech hitch and wiring harness and instead of using using > the > -->supplied scotch-lock connectors and hacking into the bike wiring harness, I > -->would like to make a Y-cable to attach to the bikes rear sub-harness. > --> > --> What I need are the sub-harness connectors, the one at the end of the > -->sub-harness to the tail lights and the mating connector that is clipped to > the > -->sub-frame, with 4 to 6 inches of wire on both ends. I can't find any > motorcycle > -->junk yards near Sacramento, CA , so if you don't mind cutting these > connectors > -->out of the wiring harness, I would appreciate it. Let me know method of > payment. > --> > -->Regards, > --> > -->Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > > Roger.... > > I am not a complete idiot...some parts are missing. > > web page at: http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:57:25 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Daniel MacKay'" , Clay & Shelly Leihy , PC800 Mailing List Subject: RE: PC800: Which electrical guage? Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:51:05 -0700 I haven't seen what Bryce put on his, but I found a neat little this with the same three LEDs. It is in a molded plastic housing that has a Cigarette lighter plug on the back / top of it, so if you put it in a car, it would be at a readable angle when stuck in the cigarette lighter socket. I decided when I finally get ready, I am going to take it out of this mounting and find some place on my ST for it. I don't know the brand, but it was cheap enough ... $4.99. I don't even know it it works right, but it looked OK in my car. I foundit a Frys Electronics ... Those people on the west coast will know the store I am talking about. It is similar to a Best Buy, but has many more component things. Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 9/1/99 9:30 AM, Daniel MacKay [SMTP:Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca] wrote: > > Clay & Shelly: > > The PC800 mailing list archives say that Bryce Ulrich > installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, > red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, > which I think is perfect. > > He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may > want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which > exactly it is. > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:01:01 -0500 Subject: PC800: HD In all fairness.. most of the older HD had a primary chain oiler that had to drip in order to work. Rod -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:03:20 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:51:55 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Lake Superior Ride--long response and some off topic To: RickCorwn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail >and have spent time in the eastern end of >Michigan's lower penninsula. I always manage to make at least one stupid statement. The above should read "Michigan's upper penninsula." Sorry David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:16:52 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:53:37 -0400 To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Cc: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" , "PC800 Mailing List" At 1:29 PM -0300 9/1/99, Daniel MacKay wrote: >Clay & Shelly: > >The PC800 mailing list archives say that Bryce Ulrich > installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, >red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, >which I think is perfect. > >He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may >want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which >exactly it is. > Sport Touring Accessories has these lights. Tim Davies has one installed on the Yankee Smuggler, and it seems to work really well. You can contact Sport Touring at http://www.sporttouringaccessories.com on the web and at 800-889-5550 by phone. Ride safe... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:21:14 -0500 Subject: PC800: Good For Leland.. Good news there Leland... the only way a guy could like that more.. would be to stay up allnight long and like it longer.... Good Happens Too.. Rod To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:19:31 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: dsigsbee@memphis.edu CC: RickCorwn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lake Superior Ride--long response and some off topic David L. Sigsbee wrote: > > Two weeks ago I completed the north shore ride around Lake Superior in > Minnesota and Ontario and have spent time in the eastern end of > Michigan's lower penninsula. Thanks David for an excellent write-up. > ****long aside. I get to ride a Harley. Oh,oh. We going to lose you to the darkside now? > St. Ignace, the town at the north end of the Mackinac Bridge, you must There is also an Indian Casino in St. Ignace (and I think one in S.S. Marie) if you are so inclined. > along the north shore of Lake Michigan until you can take a highway > north to Grand Marais. That would be M-77. > My passion runs out at Munising. Hopefully others will tell you more, > especially of the Keewanah (sp?) Penninsula, and ship canal at > Houghton, the Porcupine mountains, and others. > > David Be sure to hit a Michigan Welcome Center (Clare, S.S. Marie, St. Ignace, Marquette, Ironwood, Iron Mountain or Menominee) to get a Michigan map (excellent and free) and any other info you want. Finally, if you have the time take county 81 out of Mackinaw city to M-119 for one of the best rides of your life. Ends at Petosky, a beautiful spot, and you can take M-31 back to the UP. 100 miles out of your way, but you will not regret the ride. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:30:14 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Daniel MacKay wrote: > He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may > want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which > exactly it is. I have two of these beasties. They are sold by Dyna (makers of coils and other ignition goodies). One checks for state of charge (I assume stator) and the other checks for battery voltage. They are the size of an old-style flat box of matches. I have only installed the voltage monitor on my snowmobile (if the battery goes down in the middle of nowhere I'm screwed, because the fuel injection computer and the fuel pump depend on it). I've wanted to install the charge monitor on the PC but somehow I never get around to it. They are not cheap. I paid ca. $20.00 each and that's just 'cause I have a friend who is a Parts Unlimited dealer. FWIW -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:48:07 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising To: lcshepp@directcon.net, annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hmmm... I may have to switch to Stafe Farm. Good news about the PC! Kendall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:50:34 -0300 To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu, PC800 From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Juan Goula writes: >They are not cheap. I paid ca. $20.00 each Ummm , to me, on an '89 bike, having a little guage that warns me that TOMORROW my bike is going to quit, for 20$, is very very very very cheap. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:43:08 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: cfj4fun@directcon.net CC: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: parts supply ?? Hi Chris, chris jones wrote: > I need a left side mirror housing in Red. Anybody have one or know of a > way to buy one cheaper then the $70 honda shop price ?? Someone just posted a message about a mirror but I think it was the right hand one... The $70 price sounds too cheap. I just got a quote of $212.47 for the whole assembly and the housing is a major portion of that... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:53:14 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Peter Noeth CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors Hi Peter, Peter Noeth wrote: > I can't find any motorcyclejunk yards near Sacramento, CA , I thought there was one out on Sunrise south near the auto junk yards. Did you ride out that way? There are signs on both sides of the roads (I think they were on both sides) by manufacturer. You might take a spin out there. They are mostly in one stretch and there are all kinds of them. I'm about 95% positive I saw one that said "motorcycles". -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: Which electrical guage? Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:54:17 -0700 This address should be (I called them): http://sporttouringusa.com For some reason, I can't get to this URL but he assures me it is correct (I spelled it back very slowly). I also called about this device. It is so new, they don't have it in the catalog. He said he would send me what "literature" he could. If I get good info, I'll take a photo and include it on the http://www.scpcrc.org web server. Harrison :-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent [mailto:fsl@borgconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:54 AM To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Cc: Clay & Shelly Leihy; PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? At 1:29 PM -0300 9/1/99, Daniel MacKay wrote: >Clay & Shelly: > >The PC800 mailing list archives say that Bryce Ulrich > installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, >red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, >which I think is perfect. > >He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may >want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which >exactly it is. > Sport Touring Accessories has these lights. Tim Davies has one installed on the Yankee Smuggler, and it seems to work really well. You can contact Sport Touring at http://www.sporttouringaccessories.com on the web and at 800-889-5550 by phone. Ride safe... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampening also ? Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 22:55:30 +0200 Maybe it will also help to cancel the noise ? http://www.headwize.com/announce.htm =20 Koss Corporation introduces The Plug, a canalphone with ear cushions made of hydrophyllic, formed urethane that expand to fit the ear canal for superior acoustic isolation and bass response. It comes with 4 replacement cushions and a vinyl carrying case. The MSRP is $19.99.=20 a.. Frequency Response: 10-20,000 Hz=20 b.. Unique earbud design directs sound into the ear canal for = deep bass and extended frequency performance=20 c.. Specialty ear cushion material forms slowly in the ear canal = to provide a custom fit and maximum isolation=20 d.. Mute switch on the cord for easy sound control without = removing The Plug=20 e.. Convenient carrying case for storage and protection=20 f.. Straight, dual entry 4 foot cord =20 $19.99=20 THE PLUG stereophone specifications=20 Frequency Response 10-20,000 Hz=20 Cord Straight, Dual Entry, 4ft=20 Plug 3.5 mm/6.4 mm=20 Impedance 16 ohms=20 Weight 0.25 oz.=20 Sensitivity 112 dB SPL/1mW=20 Distortion <0.3%=20 Ear cushions closed=20 Arvid ----------------------------------------------------=20 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ----------------------------------------------------
  • Specialty ear cushion material forms slowly in the ear canal = to=20 provide a custom fit and maximum isolation=20
  • Mute switch on the cord for easy sound control without = removing The=20 Plug=20
  • Convenient carrying case for storage and protection=20
  • Straight, dual entry 4 foot cord
    • $19.99
    Frequency Response 10-20,000=20 Hz
    Cord Straight,=20 Dual Entry, 4ft
    Plug 3.5 mm/6.4=20 mm
    Impedance 16=20 ohms
    Weight 0.25=20 oz.
    Sensitivity 112 dB=20 SPL/1mW
    Distortion <0.3%
    Ear cushions closed
     
     
    Arvid
     
    ---------------------------------------------------- =
    89 PC=20 "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2
    My Home page is at:
    http://get.to/arvid
    .................= ..................................
     
    Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
    * Page = me online=20 through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279= 399=20 (go there and try it!) or,
    * Send me E-mail Express directly to my = computer=20 screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com=
     
    My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99
    My Home = Telephone=20 Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96
    Arvid=20 L=F8vik
    ----------------------------------------------------
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Koss dampens the noise by 20 dB ! Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:01:18 +0200 Just found out that the Plug dampens the surrounding noise by 20 dB. = Reff. to a test discussed on the Sab-Mag list. There is a "funnel" = leading the music in to Your ears and the soft cushion dampens the = outside noise. Arvid ----------------------------------------------------=20 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ----------------------------------------------------
    89 PC=20 "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2
    My Home page is at:
    http://get.to/arvid
    .................= ..................................
     
    Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
    * Page = me online=20 through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279= 399=20 (go there and try it!) or,
    * Send me E-mail Express directly to my = computer=20 screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com=
     
    My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99
    My Home = Telephone=20 Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96
    Arvid=20 L=F8vik
    ----------------------------------------------------
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:35:56 -0700 Leland, Nice catch! I called them, but alas, like every other motorcycle wrecking yard, they will not cut into bike harnesses. I believe it is because it is more feasible to replace a motorcycle wiring harness, than say that of an automobile, so they want to keep them intact incase someone needs to replace one. The auto wrecking yards don't care about wiring harnesses, so one can hack away as much as one likes. Thanks anyway. Maybe you want to donate it from Black Beauty? ..... no, you are getting it fixed, rats! :-) Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Leland C. Sheppard > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 7:53 AM > To: Peter Noeth > Cc: 'PC800 List' > Subject: Re: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors > > Hi Peter, > > Peter Noeth wrote: > > > I can't find any motorcyclejunk yards near Sacramento, CA , > > I thought there was one out on Sunrise south near the auto junk yards. Did > you ride > out that way? There are signs on both sides of the roads (I think they were > on both > sides) by manufacturer. You might take a spin out there. They are mostly in > one > stretch and there are all kinds of them. I'm about 95% positive I saw one > that said > "motorcycles". > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding > '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising > PCOG/PCOC #79 > > Mother of all tupperware parties: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: Which electrical guage? Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:40:02 -0700 I had drawn up plans to build much the same device 9 months ago. I would be interested in seeing the pictures if you get some. No sense in building mine if the one they offer does the same thing (I expect not, but I'll see). Sport Touring's web site is really worthless, IMHO, and the only way to find out what they sell is to request a catalog. And if what you want isn't listed in the catalog ................ Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Spain, Harrison > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 11:54 AM > To: PC800 Mailing List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: PC800: Which electrical guage? > > This address should be (I called them): > > http://sporttouringusa.com > > For some reason, I can't get to this URL but he assures me it is correct (I > spelled it back very slowly). > > I also called about this device. It is so new, they don't have it in the > catalog. He said he would send me what "literature" he could. If I get > good info, I'll take a photo and include it on the http://www.scpcrc.org web > server. > > Harrison :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Francois Saint Laurent [mailto:fsl@borgconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:54 AM > To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Cc: Clay & Shelly Leihy; PC800 Mailing List > Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? > > > At 1:29 PM -0300 9/1/99, Daniel MacKay wrote: > >Clay & Shelly: > > > >The PC800 mailing list archives say that Bryce Ulrich > > installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, > >red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, > >which I think is perfect. > > > >He doesn't say what make and model this is or where he bought it; you may > >want to do some research to find one, or someone on channel may know which > >exactly it is. > > > > > Sport Touring Accessories has these lights. Tim Davies has one > installed on the Yankee Smuggler, and it seems to work really well. > > You can contact Sport Touring at > http://www.sporttouringaccessories.com on the web and at 800-889-5550 > by phone. > > > Ride safe... > > fsl > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.netacc.net with SMTP; 1 Sep 1999 21:48:38 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "tom and karen" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: PC battery check Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:48:34 -0400 installed a cute little device with a tricolor LED, >red for low voltage, yellow for marginal, and green for charge voltage, >which I think is perfect. Sounds like the Minnkota battery checker I use during preflight now(a little paranoid these days).It started life checking the batteries on my fishing boat.What ever works. Tom Boynton 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:26:32 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: Koss dampens the noise by 20 dB ! Arvid Løvik wrote: > Just found out that the Plug dampens the surrounding noise by 20 dB. Reff. to > a test discussed on the Sab-Mag list. There is a "funnel" leading the music > in to Your ears and the soft cushion dampens the outside noise. They sound interesting, but I am curious. Why would they want the material to be hydrophilic? I think it would be better if it were hydrophobic, yes? Too bad it is not compatible with comm. systems. This weekend I will go on my last long ride of the season (gotta do it before all the leaves fall off the trees :-( and will get a chance to fully test the Chatterbox CB setup. The provided "tank bag" has just enough room for my CD player, so I will also be testing the stereo music feature. Here's hoping I don't find any snow on the passes. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 15:08:23 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Daniel MacKay wrote: > Ummm , to me, on an '89 bike, having a little guage that warns me that > TOMORROW my bike is going to quit, for 20$, is very very very very cheap. Agreed. I should have mentioned that current retail is around $45.00. Still cheaper than dial type instrument and easier to install. Doesn't look as cool though. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KWeigel411@aol.com for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:02:37 EDT Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I need a new stator and regulator for my '89. Any advice for sources other than the local Honda disservice organization? Thanks in advance, Kim Weigel Columbus, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by worldaccessnet.com, id smtpdAAAa005Vz; Wed Sep 1 18:13:53 1999 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "SLSwenson" To: , Subject: PC800: More 89 Stator/Regulator info Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:14:23 -0700 Kim, Just going through the same thing on my '89. If you want genuine Honda Parts, try calling Midwest Action Cycle. The beat my local dealer's price for a stator by $100 ($175 vs. $275)! IF you want to save even more, get a rebuilt stator from Rick's Cycle, in Vermont or New Hampshire. Do a search on the web. They were $125 w/a 6 month warranty. I haven't replaced my regulator . . . . . yet. Good luck, Scott S -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KWeigel411@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:04 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 >I need a new stator and regulator for my '89. Any advice for sources other >than the local Honda disservice organization? Thanks in advance, > >Kim Weigel >Columbus, Ohio >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:54:29 -0500 From: Jeffrey King To: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: PC800: Great news, Leland > Hi Coasters, > > Just got word from my insurance company (State Farm) yesterday that they > are going to fix Black Beauty. I am delighted. That's great, Leland. Provided nothing is twisted, I'd rather have my old bike/car back than to try to find one like it for the little money the insurance companies would give you for it. Keep us posted! Happy Coasting, Jeffrey King (K5ING) '94 PC800 "The Batcycle" PCOG/PCOC #6 -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:45:24 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: "Leland C. Sheppard" CC: "Ann S. Reid" , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising Leland, YAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOO! --Ralph "Leland C. Sheppard" wrote: > > Hi Coasters, > > Just got word from my insurance company (State Farm) yesterday that they > are going to fix Black Beauty. I am delighted. > > The estimate was $1925+ for parts, $139+ for tax and $480.00 for labor > for a grand total of $2545.24. Whatever the market value came out to be > (they didn't tell me), it was obviously high enough for them not to > total the bike. > > John (my mechanic) is ordering the parts this morning. > > Yessssss!! (huge grin) > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding but not for > long > '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising > PCOG/PCOC #79 > > Mother of all tupperware parties: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 22:49:05 -0400 From: Dale To: KWeigel411@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 How do you know you need a new regulator? If you have tested the stator and found it bad, replace it. You won't know if you have a bad regulator until you have a good stator. Replacing the regulator is easy enough if it then turns out bad. Of course if you have the money......... KWeigel411@aol.com wrote: > I need a new stator and regulator for my '89. Any advice for sources other > than the local Honda disservice organization? Thanks in advance, > > Kim Weigel > Columbus, Ohio > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Dale Hurley "Hate is an Emotion, Not a Crime." - Me -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 05:49:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:22:48 -0400 To: "Spain, Harrison" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: Which electrical guage? Cc: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" At 11:54 AM -0700 9/1/99, Spain, Harrison wrote: >This address should be (I called them): > >http://sporttouringusa.com > >For some reason, I can't get to this URL but he assures me it is correct (I >spelled it back very slowly). There should be the 'www' in the URL. Try http://www.sporttouringusa.com . That's the one I use. ride safe.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:20:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: RE: Which electrical guage? "Spain, Harrison" writes: > This address should be (I called them): > > http://sporttouringusa.com > > For some reason, I can't get to this URL but he assures me it is > correct (I spelled it back very slowly). The complete and correct URL for STA is: http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ One of the web tools that I use with great frequency to find things on the web (although I already had a bookmark for STA) is Alta Vista. As an example, if you enter "Sport Touring Accessories" in the Alta Vista search field (with the double quotes and capitalization), the first hit returned is the STA web site. An excellent tutorial on finding things on the web is available at: http://webware.Princeton.EDU/howard/slides/search/sld001.htm If you'd prefer to view this presentation using PowerPoint, try: http://webware.Princeton.EDU/howard/slides/search/search.ppt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:33:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Great news, Leland Jeffrey King writes > That's great, Leland. Provided nothing is twisted, I'd rather have > my old bike/car back than to try to find one like it for the little > money the insurance companies would give you for it. Keep us posted! It is gratifying to read that Black Beauty will be getting back on the road; even more so that one of the first things that Leland did after the accident was buy another PC, get back in the saddle and shake off the accident. Repairing/replacing a bike is a personal decision. I felt that my 1990 PC was a "bad karma" bike, and I was praying that the other driver's insurance company (GEICO) would total it and make me a fair offer, so I could start over with a new bike. I had paid $3500 for it 6 weeks before my crash, and insurance paid out about $4100 for it. Plus another $1000 for damaged clothing, miscellaneous expenses, and inconvenience. I was so impressed with my treatment by GEICO that I switched my automobile insurance to them -- at a savings of about 30% compared with what I had been paying. I'm sure there are many bastards in the insurance business, but my (only) experience was quite positive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampening also ? Arvid L=F8vik writes: > Maybe it will also help to cancel the noise ? I received a pair of Noisebuster headphones as a gift several years ago.=20 Active noise cancellation is a very interesting experience; you can't believe how much low-frequency noise there is in most environments until you put these on and hit the ON switch. I've been told that Porsche (and possibly other high-end auto makers) is experimenting with ANC as a means to "tailor" the acoustic environment inside a car.=20 For example, you can enjoy the wonderful mechanical symphony of a Porsche engine while driving, but if you turn on the radio, rather=20 than overpowering the sounds with radio volume, ANC actually gets rid=20 of engine and road noises, and lets you hear the music clearly, at a comfortable level. It would be wonderful to have noise cancellation in an in-the-ear unit that would fit inside a helmet, but in my experience, the extreme pressure variations and utter randomness of wind noise in an open vehicle make the technology unusable in this environment. In a car with the windows up,=20 the Noisebusters work quite well to reduce ambient noise, especially=20 road roar. With the windows down, wind blast throws the noise cancellation circuitry for a loop, and the cancellation circuit is simply unable to=20 keep up with the variability. A motorcycle would be even worse. But, who knows, with more computational power, it might someday be possible. =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 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    LED Voltage Gauge Click for Larger Image
    A precise, continuous way to monitor your bike's alternator output and battery condition. An essential instrument if your bike has bigger or extra lights, or other powered accessories. It uses a solid state, ultra compact design that is extremely durable and completely waterproof. This voltmeter fits anywhere and comes with two interchangeable, numbered faces so it can be positioned horizontally or vertically. Indicates from 9.3V to 14.8V using a ten segment multi color bar graph readout. Small electrical system changes are noticeable at a glance. 1.85" x 2.8" x .5"
    $ 54.00 Select/Order

    Card Sized Multimeter Click for Larger Image
    Trouble-shoot electrical problems with this slim-line design digital multimeter. Small yet rugged enough to carry on motorcycle trips. Only slightly larger than a credit card, the CircuitMate DM78 features full autoranging, DC volts, AC volts, ohms, continuity, and diode test functions. Comes complete with batteries, instructions, test leads, and carrying case. Delivers all the functions of a full-size multimeter in an easier to carry (and use) size.
    $ 47.00 Select/Order

    EZ Charger Click for Larger Image
    This compact electronically-controlled charger keeps your motorcycle battery fully charged over long periods of storage without overcharging and "cooking" out the electrolyte. When the patented control circuit senses a fully charged battery the current is reduced from 600mA to 20mA so the battery is not harmed. Includes terminal rings, a quick disconnect and spring connect clamps.
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    Samlex Switching Power Supply Click for Larger Image
    This fully regulated 3.5 amp switching power supply incorporates an advanced design in a compact and lightweight size. It has both overload and short ciruit protection and features a built-in cigarette lighter socket right next ot the conventional plus and minus screw/banana connector posts. With this and an ammeter, you can figure out what all your toys draw before there's a smelly wire fire inside your fairing. Input is 110 vac, Output is 13.8v dc. Perfect on any workbench to let you play with your bike and car electrical accessory stuff whenever you want. 2.3"H x 3.75"W x 6.75"L.
    $ 57.00 Select/Order

    Deltran Supersmart Battery Tender Click for Larger Image
    An automatic battery charger that charges, maintains, and prolongs the life of your motorcycle (or other vehicle's) gel or wet cell battery. This 1.25 Amp charger senses when your battery is fully charged and then switches to a "float charge" mode at a lower voltage and amperage so your battery fluid won't boil away as with conventional trickle chargers. Also, unlike some automatic chargers that shut off completely, the Battery Tender keeps a slight charge to maintain the battery for indefinite periods. It is polarity protected and comes with an aluminum case, red and green charge rate monitor lights, and a grounded cord. An alternate quick disconnect hardwired plug-in cord is included. A better battery charger.
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    --------------52165B2CF2E1F9E585E6BBDB-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: Reconditioned Stators Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:32:04 +0100 Many companies supply reconditioned Stators with warranty here in England for less than half the OEM price! Should be the same in the US. Ask some smallish local garages in your area. Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) ---------- > From: KWeigel411@aol.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 > Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:02 AM > > I need a new stator and regulator for my '89. Any advice for sources other > than the local Honda disservice organization? Thanks in advance, > > Kim Weigel > Columbus, Ohio > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:47:28 -0700 Congratulations, now you will still have a back up bike to ride. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:21 AM Subject: PC800: Phoenix arising >Hi Coasters, > >Just got word from my insurance company (State Farm) yesterday that they >are going to fix Black Beauty. I am delighted. > >The estimate was $1925+ for parts, $139+ for tax and $480.00 for labor >for a grand total of $2545.24. Whatever the market value came out to be >(they didn't tell me), it was obviously high enough for them not to >total the bike. > >John (my mechanic) is ordering the parts this morning. > >Yessssss!! (huge grin) > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding but not for >long >'89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising >PCOG/PCOC #79 > >Mother of all tupperware parties: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Lake Superior Ride--long response and some off topic Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:54:10 -0700 Enjoyed the story & ride. Makes me want to schedule a trip there next summer. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:48:28 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:48:34 -0400 To: Selden Deemer From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampening also ? Cc: PC 800 List At 8:51 AM -0400 9/2/99, Selden Deemer wrote: > >I received a pair of Noisebuster headphones as a gift several years ago. >Active noise cancellation is a very interesting experience; you can't >believe how much low-frequency noise there is in most environments >until you put these on and hit the ON switch. I've been told that >Porsche (and possibly other high-end auto makers) is experimenting >with ANC as a means to "tailor" the acoustic environment inside a car. >For example, you can enjoy the wonderful mechanical symphony of a >Porsche engine while driving, but if you turn on the radio, rather >than overpowering the sounds with radio volume, ANC actually gets rid >of engine and road noises, and lets you hear the music clearly, at a >comfortable level. I fly commercial airlines on a frequent basis and lately I have had the opportunity to fly on a couple of new Saab Turbo Props that are equipped with a white noise system. On one flight I was returning home at around midnight, and the plane had only 2 other passengers, so the flight attendant switched the unit on and off for me a few times so I could appreciate the difference. I was quite impressed with how well it worked. With the system turned off I could barely hear her speak when she was sitting across from me, but with the system turned on we were able to carry on a regular conversation. However, I can see how it would work better in an airplane than on a motorcycle. I've also used the headset version of noise cancellation systems, for use in noisy rooms, and it did work quite well. Ride safe..... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:59:04 -0400 Importance: Normal > However, I can see how it would work better in an airplane than on a > motorcycle. Am I the only one hear [sic] that thinks that noise-cancelling gear on a motorcycle isn't such a great idea? Has anyone experimented with light-blocking faceshields to keep those pesky light rays from getting to their eyes??? Dan Masi '90 PC, yet unnamed -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Mail List , "'Roger Prince'" Subject: RE: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:22:04 -0700 Roger, Thanks for the picture. My LED voltmeter will only use 1 tri-color LED, red for under voltage, yellow for low voltage, green for normal, flashing red for overvoltage. I plan on installing it in the instrument cluster. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Roger Prince > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:50 AM > To: PC800 Mail List > Subject: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge > > <> > > http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.filereader?779027288+EN/catalogs/1077 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "Dan Masi" Cc: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noisedampeningalso ? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:27:11 -0400 Importance: Normal > I can see your point Dan. I don't want a system that prevents me > from hearing car horns, train bells, ambulances, etc. Keep in mind > that a noise cancellation system usually works to eliminate a steady > frequency noise. Think of a system that would eliminate the noise > coming from the wind over your shield, around your helmet, the sound > of the tires humming, etc. and then it would be whisper quiet. You > would still hear car horns, etc. As a matter of fact you would hear > them even better since they wouldn't be competing with the steady > background noises. That would certainly be great. Except that's not how things work, unfortunately. These noise-cancellation systems can't and don't make any such distinction; to them, sound is sound. They can only cope with sounds of relatively low frequency, for a number of reasons (mostly available DSP processing speed and the fact that at higher frequencies, distance between sensing mic and output transducer becomes a significant percentage of wavelenght). I believe existing systems tend to operate most effectively at sub-1000Hz frequencies. Admitedly, there's a lot of low-freq "noise" generated by riding (as you mention, tire hum and engine drone), and reduction of these might indeed help you to hear desirable higher-frequency sounds better. But much of the noise in cycling is gonna be high-frequency wind rush, and noise cancellation today won't put a dent in those. But they *will* help to reduce the sound of that 18-wheeler's horn, as well as the sound of your own engine; both Not So Good Things, IMO. -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:31:48 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:20:06 -0400 To: "Dan Masi" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Cc: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" At 12:59 PM -0400 9/2/99, Dan Masi wrote: > >Am I the only one hear [sic] that thinks that noise-cancelling gear >on a motorcycle isn't such a great idea? Has anyone experimented with >light-blocking faceshields to keep those pesky light rays from getting >to their eyes??? > >Dan Masi >'90 PC, yet unnamed I can see your point Dan. I don't want a system that prevents me from hearing car horns, train bells, ambulances, etc. Keep in mind that a noise cancellation system usually works to eliminate a steady frequency noise. Think of a system that would eliminate the noise coming from the wind over your shield, around your helmet, the sound of the tires humming, etc. and then it would be whisper quiet. You would still hear car horns, etc. As a matter of fact you would hear them even better since they wouldn't be competing with the steady background noises. Now, if someone could develop a system that eliminates the sound of the Harley next to me, and can also do something about the smell, then I would buy one right away! Bye for now.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noisedampeningalso ? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:44:06 -0400 Importance: Normal > Now, if someone could develop a system that eliminates the sound of > the Harley next to me... Ah, but that system exists today! It's called "statistics", and pretty much guarantees that the Harley will soon and abruptly cease making noise. Once activated, the system can only be reset by the application of an external stimulus known as "tools". :-) -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:39:40 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: Dan Masi , "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Francois Saint Laurent wrote: snip > Now, if someone could develop a system that eliminates the sound of > the Harley next to me, and can also do something about the smell, > then I would buy one right away! Now would that smell be coming from the ride, the rider, or the riders significant other next to you?! :-) Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? To: Dan Masi , "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Yes. I have the fog city amber shield and it works great. --- Dan Masi wrote: > Has anyone experimented with light-blocking > faceshields to keep those pesky light > rays from getting to their eyes??? === Later Roger R Chaska, MN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:28:28 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Peter Noeth CC: PC800 Mail List , "'Roger Prince'" Subject: Re: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge Peter Noeth wrote: > Roger, > > Thanks for the picture. My LED voltmeter will only use 1 tri-color LED, red > for under voltage, yellow for low voltage, green for normal, flashing red for > overvoltage. I plan on installing it in the instrument cluster. > Hey, Peter, someone is already making your meter and it is available at this address. Dyna Performance Electronics, Voltage Monitor and Charge Monitor http://www.dynaonline.com/english/cvmonitor.htm Sure hope they are giving you your cut. :-) -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:55:48 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >At 12:59 PM -0400 9/2/99, Dan Masi wrote: >> >>Am I the only one hear [sic] that thinks that noise-cancelling >gear >on a motorcycle isn't such a great idea? Has anyone experimented >with >light-blocking faceshields to keep those pesky light rays from >getting >to their eyes??? >> >>Dan Masi >>'90 PC, yet unnamed > > >I can see your point Dan. I don't want a system that prevents me >from hearing car horns, train bells, ambulances, etc. Keep in >mind that a noise cancellation system usually works to eliminate a >steady frequency noise. Think of a system that would eliminate the >noise coming from the wind over your shield, around your helmet, >the sound of the tires humming, etc. and then it would be whisper >quiet. You would still hear car horns, etc. As a matter of fact >you would hear them even better since they wouldn't be competing >with the steady >background noises. > >Now, if someone could develop a system that eliminates the sound >of the Harley next to me, and can also do something about the >smell, then I would buy one right away! > >Bye for now.... > >fsl Francois, I already have one of these systems for my motorcycle. It's called a Chrysler Sebring convertible. I use it to cancel out the "noise" of riding my motorcycle by climbing inside it and putting up the top. I can still hear the emergency alerts, but the general background noise is toned down. Plus I don't get helmet hair:-) Personally I like to have the motorcycle noises when I ride a motorcycle. One of the many perks that goes along with the passion. Of course with my new tires I think I get less of them now. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: What do I need to have in stock if My stator failes ? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:32:15 +0200 I'm getting worried now after all this latest ramblings on the 89 = stature failures. Mine is now close to 30 k's and with the slow and scare supplies if PC = 800 parts in Norway ,=20 I better be ready for something happening. ; ) As long as We have two 89's in the garage , one complete stator = replacement would not be a bad idea ? What spares do I need to get hold of and can someone supply Me with the = spare No's ? Thanks Arvid ----------------------------------------------------=20 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ----------------------------------------------------
    89 PC=20 "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2
    My Home page is at:
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    Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
    * Page = me online=20 through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279= 399=20 (go there and try it!) or,
    * Send me E-mail Express directly to my = computer=20 screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com=
     
    My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99
    My Home = Telephone=20 Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:00:18 -0700 Steve, Close, but no cigar! The Dana unit uses 3 LEDs, all of them red. They had to label the enclosure so you would know what is what. I am currently working on getting my AM/FM/Cass Stereo and two-way radios installed in time for the pre-Y2K check-out ride. Then I will be working on my electric throttle lock, then the Bushtech trailer hitch, and finally the voltage monitor. Still some time away yet, unfortunately. Based on how the Stereo power wiring needed to be, I decided to put a cigarette lighter socket in the trunk, instead of behind the passenger foot peg. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Steve Wilson > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:28 PM > To: Peter Noeth > Cc: PC800 Mail List; 'Roger Prince' > Subject: Re: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge > > Peter Noeth wrote: > > > Roger, > > > > Thanks for the picture. My LED voltmeter will only use 1 tri-color LED, > red > > for under voltage, yellow for low voltage, green for normal, flashing red > for > > overvoltage. I plan on installing it in the instrument cluster. > > > > Hey, Peter, someone is already making your meter and it is available at this > address. Dyna Performance Electronics, Voltage Monitor and Charge Monitor > http://www.dynaonline.com/english/cvmonitor.htm > Sure hope they are giving you your cut. :-) > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) > 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) > IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: LED clock,voltage display Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:52:17 +0200 When reading all the posts about the LED warning lights, I remembered = that I saw somethimg like that in a catalog from a local shop here in = Stavanger. I digged it out and it seemed to be one of those things the PC needed: The instrument is about 10x 3x1,5 cm's, having 3 functions like a 12 / = 24 hour digital watch, stop watch and a LED volt meter. The display ( = divided into 2 parts) is easily read and has back lighting. One part is = showing the time , alternative the stop watch.The other shows the = batterys condition in volts. The third part of the instrument shows the = alternators functions by means of three light diodes (green for high, = yellow for medium and red for low ). The instrument is connected with velcro's or dobbelsided tapeand get the = power from the 12 volt connection. The price is NOK 167 ( about US$ 22 ) In the catalog I also found fuses for the PC that starts to light up = when they are broken. The bad news is that they only sell them in = packages with one 5 amp, one x 7,5 amp,2 x 10 amps,2 x 15 amps,2 x 20 = amps, 1 x 25 amp and 1 x 30 amp. The price is NOK 57 , (US $ 8 ).=20 Arvid Arvid ----------------------------------------------------=20 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ----------------------------------------------------
    89 PC=20 "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2
    My Home page is at:
    http://get.to/arvid
    .................= ..................................
     
    Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
    * Page = me online=20 through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279= 399=20 (go there and try it!) or,
    * Send me E-mail Express directly to my = computer=20 screen 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com=
     
    My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99
    My Home = Telephone=20 Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:05:36 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge Peter Noeth wrote: > Close, but no cigar! The Dana unit uses 3 LEDs, all of them red. They had > to label the enclosure so you would know what is what. Negative. LEDs are green, amber and red. Labels are for idiot-proofing. Who was it that said: "Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot" ? :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: LED clock,voltage display Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:39:40 -0700 Arvid, Here in the U.S., at an automotive parts house called Pep Boys, you = can purchase a little LED that clips to the back of standard ATO blade = fuses that lights up when the fuse blows. It is slightly larger than the width and = length of the fuse itself (if looking at the fuse while it is in the fuse = holder), works with any amperage fuse and is sold as a fuse tester. They are a = little on the expensive side (I could confirm the price if anyone is interested), = and are re-useable. The fact that they clip on, would be a bit overkill for use = as a fuse tester, because you would have to remove the fuse to get it off. = Would be useful as a re-useable indicator if clipped to all fuses, or at least = the ones of interest though. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Arvid L=F8vik > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:52 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: LED clock,voltage display >=20 > When reading all the posts about the LED warning lights, I remembered = that I > saw somethimg like that in a catalog from a local shop here in = Stavanger. > =20 > I digged it out and it seemed to be one of those things the PC = needed: > =20 > In the catalog I also found fuses for the PC that starts to light up = when they > are broken. The bad news is that they only sell them in packages with = one 5 > amp, one x 7,5 amp,2 x 10 amps,2 x 15 amps,2 x 20 amps, 1 x 25 amp = and 1 x 30 > amp. The price is NOK 57 , (US $ 8 ).=20 > =20 > Arvid > =20 To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:43:21 -0700 Juan, You are correct!! I guess that is what I get for "scanning" through = the writeup. I plan on using a single LED to make the display aspect of it = smaller. Regards, Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > ---------- > From: Juan A. Goula > Reply To: jgoula@sfos.uaf.edu > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 6:05 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: LED Electrical Gauge >=20 > Peter Noeth wrote: > =20 > > Close, but no cigar! The Dana unit uses 3 LEDs, all of them red. = They had=20 > > to label the enclosure so you would know what is what.=20 >=20 > Negative. LEDs are green, amber and red. Labels are for = idiot-proofing. >=20 > Who was it that said: "Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a = better > idiot" > ? :-) >=20 > --=20 > Juan Antonio Goula > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85=B0N, Long.: 147.72=B0W > "There is only one difference between a non-rider > and me. I am not mad." > (with apologies to Salvador Dal=ED) > ------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks=09 > (907)474-5520 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9BE49610128; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:51:58 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: small oil leak Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:47:10 -0400 Just wondering if any of you have had a similar situation: PC has been parked now for 3 days. Went out today and noticed 3 drops = of oil right close to the side kickstand. After inspection, I noticed a = leak from where a rubber hose joins the engine. Pardon my "engine = anatomy". I was absent that day. Right in front of the side kick stand is a big hose that I assume = carries engine oil to be cooled. Evidentily, a little bit has been = spraying back as I noticed some residue around the kickstand, oil = filter, and bottom of the drip pan. =20 I just took a screwdriver and tightened the clamp that held the hose in = place. It was pretty tight but I turned it another full turn or so. = Hope that takes care of it. I ran the engine a few minutes, but guess I = can tell more the next time I take a ride. If anyone has experienced the same, I would appreciate knowing if that = took care of it. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV 1997 PC 800 http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:53:33 -0400 Subject: PC800: Voltage drop shown by LED To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) All this talk about voltage indicating LED's couldn't have come at a better time. I bought one from Sport Touring Accessories last year and I love it especially now that I am having a bizarre electrical problem. When I rev my engine the voltage output drops, indicated by an orange color to the LED, and my headlight dims. At idle everything works fine, a green glow on my LED and full brightness on my headlight. I noticed it for the first time Tuesday night on my way back from Canada. My headlight suddenly started going dim then bright as I rode along. Today I figured out the idle/rev effect on the situation. By any chance has anyone else had a similar situation? I'm leaving for 4 days in Vermont on the Yankee Smuggler and I'd rather not have a blackout, but this won't keep my from taking the trip even if I have to duct tape a flashlight to the front:-) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1b9) with SMTP id 1662133 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:31:31 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Zweigart" To: "Pacific Coast List" Subject: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:15:11 -0400 Just finished reading over 200 messages which have built up over the = last week or ten days while I've been preparing for trial (and becoming = a miserable recluse in the process). Congrats to Leland for getting = Black Beauty all healed up! That's a real nice piece of news! Towards the end of this month, as sort of a post-trial therapy, I intend = to take three nights or so to travel from here to Virginia, take the = entire length of the Blue Ridge Parkway, then return straight back up = I-75 to home. I've been studying my route from the automotive point of = view, and have some narrative information about the Parkway coming, but = would greatly welcome any tips and/or tricks that any of you may have to = suggest about the Parkway. I'd also welcome anyone interested in = joining me for any part of the ride, schedules permitting. If the = weather's good, I intend to camp along the way. Last night, as part of my alter-ego Emergency Management duties, I = responded to a "gasoline leak" which turned out to be a dumped = motorcycle in a ditch. A gentleman pushing 350 pounds was riding what I = believe (used) to be a "Spectre 1100"...I think it was a Kawasaki. He = was cruising home from work on a rural farm road with moderate curves. = Apparently, as obviated by a fresh strip of rubber about 1/4 mile long = leading up to where he left the pavement, he was "enjoying" the road a = bit. The bike then left the right shoulder of the road, bumped a = mailbox, then did at least 2 endos before coming to a rest adjacent to a = concrete wall about two feet tall next to a driveway. The rider kept = going about another eight feet, after the wall added a couple of new = joints to his left arm and leg. He told the cops that he had = experienced a blowout, which caused his accident. (The offending tire, = however, apparently reinflated itself after the accident.) The guage = panel and windshield (mounts were there...never found the shield) were = snapped completely clean off of the bike. The key was broken off flush = with the keyhole. The bike's once-sleek lines were now converted = basically to a gentle S shape from front to back. The rider was not = wearing a helmet, but had one on his seat-back. It landed next to his = battered body. Fortunately, his injuries were limited to his badly = broken left limbs. He didn't even have too many scratches, believe it = or not, and he was only wearing a t-shirt, jeans (which ended up around = his knees...where a belt, guys!), and cowboy boots. The ambulance guys = sincerely believed that his bulk probably saved him from SERIOUS injury. = I wish you could have seen the firemen (obvously not bikers) trying to = get the big bike up on its center stand. After four of them wrestled = with it, I couldn't resist...said "Try this", pushed down, pulled up, = etc. and popped it right up there, then walked away as if it were = nothing. (They muttered something about me as I walked away, but I = didn't quite hear it.) Guess there's a moral to that story, but I'm too tired to think about = it. Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 CP800 post-trial=20 therapy, I intend to take three nights or so to travel from here to = Virginia,=20 take the entire length of the Blue Ridge Parkway, then return straight = back up=20 I-75 to home.  I've been studying my route from the automotive = point of=20 view, and have some narrative information about the Parkway coming, but = would=20 greatly welcome any tips and/or tricks that any of you may have to = suggest about=20 the Parkway.  I'd also welcome anyone interested in joining me for = any part=20 of the ride, schedules permitting.  If the weather's good, I intend = to camp=20 along the way.
     
    Last night, as part of my alter-ego Emergency = Management=20 duties, I responded to a "gasoline leak" which turned out to be a dumped = motorcycle in a ditch.  A gentleman pushing 350 pounds was riding = what I=20 believe (used) to be a "Spectre 1100"...I think it was a Kawasaki.  = He was=20 cruising home from work on a rural farm road with moderate curves.  = Apparently, as obviated by a fresh strip of rubber about 1/4 mile long = leading=20 up to where he left the pavement, he was "enjoying" the road a = bit.  The=20 bike then left the right shoulder of the road, bumped a mailbox, then = did at=20 least 2 endos before coming to a rest adjacent to a concrete wall about = two feet=20 tall next to a driveway.  The rider kept going about another eight = feet,=20 after the wall added a couple of new joints to his left arm and = leg.  He=20 told the cops that he had experienced a blowout, which caused his=20 accident.  (The offending tire, however, apparently reinflated = itself after=20 the accident.)  The guage panel and windshield (mounts were = there...never=20 found the shield) were snapped completely clean off of the bike.  = The key=20 was broken off flush with the keyhole.  The bike's once-sleek lines = were=20 now converted basically to a gentle S shape from front to back.  = The rider=20 was not wearing a helmet, but had one on his seat-back.  It landed = next to=20 his battered body.  Fortunately, his injuries were limited to his = badly=20 broken left limbs.  He didn't even have too many scratches, believe = it or=20 not, and he was only wearing a t-shirt, jeans (which ended up around his = knees...where a belt, guys!), and cowboy boots.  The ambulance guys = sincerely believed that his bulk probably saved him from SERIOUS = injury.  I=20 wish you could have seen the firemen (obvously not bikers) trying to get = the big=20 bike up on its center stand.  After four of them wrestled with it, = I=20 couldn't resist...said "Try this", pushed down, pulled up, etc. and = popped it=20 right up there, then walked away as if it were nothing.  (They = muttered=20 something about me as I walked away, but I didn't quite hear = it.)
     
    Guess there's a moral to that story, but I'm too = tired to=20 think about it.
     
    Steve Zweigart
    Maysville, Kentucky
    '97 CP800
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: wax/cleaner recommendations Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:44:21 -0700 Lee the Newbie again. What has been your best experience with cleaning and waxing a black PC? The seller recommended a black toned wax but the young dude at the auto stuff store, a veteran of several years in a body shop, said it ain't very good. Also on the rump of the bike somebody buffed or rubbed hard and there are those minute scratches. Anybody have any experience buffing these out? I'd appreciate the help. Lee Barker 94regon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom and Anita Humphrey" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= , "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: LED clock,voltage display Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:34:13 -0700 Importance: Normal Arvid - Yes, I have two of those combination clocks and voltmeters with the LED readouts and the three colored LED's for voltage. One on my '94 PC, and one in my car (affectionately known as the "shit-box), and the voltage part works great! The backlighting, however, is dim unless directly in front of you at eye level. The big problem, however, is that the clock fails to keep time - it will randomly fail to advance with the time. You are forever resetting the clock, and can never trust in when in use. Pshaw! Tom in Clayton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 06:55:39 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway To: srz@maysvilleky.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) srz@maysvilleky.net writes: >The ambulance guys sincerely believed that his bulk probably saved >him from SERIOUS injury. I wish you could have seen the firemen >(obvously not bikers) trying to get the big bike up on its center >stand. After four of them wrestled with it, I couldn't >resist...said "Try this", pushed down, pulled up, etc. and popped >it right up there, then walked away as if it were nothing. (They >muttered something about me as I walked away, but I didn't quite >hear it.) > >Guess there's a moral to that story, but I'm too tired to think >about it. > >Steve Zweigart >Maysville, Kentucky >'97 CP800 I think the moral here is "More stops at Kentucky Fried Chicken for extra crispy and fewer stops at MacDonald's for salads with lite dressing" Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:47:37 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: PC sitings on a long road trip & 89 4 Sale! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Coasters: Just got back from our annual trip to up the coast to Maine from NC. 1800 miles round trip in the cage: (actually half a cage) VW Cabrio convertible. Usually we spot at least 5 or 6 PC's during the trip. This year....just 1....heading North over the bridge between NH and Maine on Saturday 8/28 at about 11:30 am. [Anyone on the list???]. Is the PC becoming an endangered spieces??? Spotted a couple of ST 1100's and heard far too many Harleys. [Where the hell are those anti Harely earplugs when you really need them???]. Since returning to the list I've have deduced that something tragic happened to Black Beauty, luckily nothing serious to Leland. Details???? Also I would just like to remind listers that I have an 89 PC w/ 43 K for sale. [I bought a 96 last fall and haven't figured out how to ride both at the same time and can't convince my wife to learn to ride]. The ill-fated 89 electrical system (battery, stator & rectifier) has been replaced. It has a brand new Clearview windshield, new rear tire, newly upholstered seat, backrest, trunklights and mudflap. Bike looks great and is located Raleigh NC. Special PC List(ers) Price: $2500! Rob Cary NC 89 PC w/ 43K 96PC w/ 4.3K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: RE: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? "Dan Masi" > Am I the only one hear [sic] that thinks that noise-cancelling gear > on a motorcycle isn't such a great idea? Has anyone experimented with > light-blocking faceshields to keep those pesky light rays from getting > to their eyes??? One of the most fatiguing (and ultimately damaging to your hearing) aspects of riding is the constant noise. A well-designed active noise cancellation system is a joy. Active noise cancellation, as opposed to passive noise reduction (aka earplugs) uses a sampling microphone and a microprocessor to generate a waveform that is exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the reference waveform. If you think back to high school physics, when you combine two waves, the resulting wave is the sum of the values of each; if the two are identical but out of phase, the sum = 0. ANC devices generally target specific frequencies and attempt to nullify them. They work best with sounds that have a regular character, such as the noise produced by a jet engine. The result of a good ANC system is that you can actually hear your surroundings much more clearly because a lot of the annoying (and fatiguing) background noise is eliminated. The most familiar example that I can think of involves weather/traffic reports on radio or TV from helicopters, which are extremely noisy environments -- yet you hear almost no cockpit noise during the broadcast. The reason is ANC. I'm not an EE, but I suspect that the more varied the sound source you are trying to cancel, the more processing power is required to analyze the signal, and possibly the more amplifier power is required to generate the cancelling soundwave. A motorcycle at highway speed seems like it would be a pretty difficult challenge on both counts. However, I would bet that as Moore's law keeps delivering more and more powerful chips, someone-- possibly a helmet manufacturer--will introduce a usable ANC device for motorcycles. Designing this into the helmet seems like the most logical approach, because then the designer has total control over the acoustic environment. Anybody want to find some venture capital and form a new company? There is a real business opportunity here! See also: http://w3.nai.net/~ieee7/Ancabstr.HTM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:07:00 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: Fwd: RE: PC800: LED clock,voltage display Peter, t sounds like you actually receive Arvid's messages! Arvid, every message you post comes to me as a blank message. Maybe my email program doesn't speak Finnish and Peter's does. [Yes, I know your'e from Norway, but my father is of Swedish descent, and my mother is of Danish descent, and I'm not allowed to talk to Norwegians.....Hmmm. Maybe you're not allowed to talk to me, and that's why your messages are blank! I'll have to talk to my parents about tampering with my email filters!] >From: Peter Noeth [snip] >Arvid, > > Here in the U.S., at an automotive parts house called Pep Boys, you can >purchase a little LED that clips to the back of standard ATO blade fuses that [snip] >Regards, > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k > > >> ---------- >> From: Arvid Løvik >> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:52 PM >> To: PC800 >> Subject: PC800: LED clock,voltage display >> >> When reading all the posts about the LED warning lights, I remembered that I >> saw somethimg like that in a catalog from a local shop here in Stavanger. >> >> I digged it out and it seemed to be one of those things the PC needed: [snip] Betty Lise Anderson Columbus, Ohio '90 PC, 9990 miles, will break 10K today! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:34:13 -0300 To: "PC800" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampening also ? I have ridden with the Sony noise cancelling earbuds a couple of times. Some notes: - they cost about 200$Cdn a couple years ago. I bought them because I was planning a lot of plane travel, and they ENORMOUSLY reduce the amount of fatigue on a plane, train, subway. - On the cycle, they do eat a lot of noise, you can listen to quiet music or no music just not have your ears pummelled. - the Sony ones have a piece outside your ear, you might want to cut away your foam to wear them comfortably - getting the helmet on and off with earbuds and their wires is a bit of a pain - my main concern was that if the engine (or transmission or tires) had a problem I wouldn't hear it. With music, you might not hear someone honking behind you. - wind buffeting noise around your helmet does not cancel and so it seems louder with them on. - they kind of screw into your ear, there's a lug which engages a hollow part of your ear and locks the thing in, and a couple of friends found this really creepy. it also means that putting them in and taking them out is a bit of a pain; fortunately, - they have a "Cut noise cancelling" button which allows you to hear your surroundings and converse with someone. With the Sonys, about half the dampening comes from the electronics, the other half comes from a good seal with your ear canal. I wear them on the bike, with my beautiful Sony minidisc walkman, when I have a long and boring trip ahead of me. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800 Rider" Subject: Re: PC800: Voltage drop shown by LED Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:52:51 -0700 Have you checked to see if it is a loose ground wire? I'm not sure if revving the engine would be affected by ground, but it is something to check. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:06:04 -0400 Importance: Normal I know this isn't PC-related anymore, so I won't say much more on the subject. Just a point... > One of the most fatiguing (and ultimately damaging to your hearing) > aspects of riding is the constant noise... > > Active noise cancellation ... uses > a sampling microphone and a microprocessor to generate a waveform that > is exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the reference waveform... > ANC devices generally target specific frequencies and attempt to nullify > them. They work best with sounds that have a regular character, such as the > noise produced by a jet engine. The fatigue and hearing-damage points are well-taken. The problem is that it's the higher-frequency noises that are ultimately damaging and probably that are the most fatiguing as well. ANC devices don't target specific frequencies, exactly; they start at some reasonable low value (say, 30Hz), and attempt to nullify all signals up to a maximum design frequency, say 800Hz. The limitation is due to processing power and physical design constraints. At 10kHz, you've got a wavelength that's on the order of one inch, which makes placement of the sampling mike and output transducer awfully tricky. > I'm not an EE I keep denying it too, but people seem to find out anyway. :-) > but I suspect that the more varied the sound source > you are trying to cancel, the more processing power is required to > analyze the signal, and possibly the more amplifier power is required > to generate the cancelling soundwave. Not so on the amplifier power. True on the processing power, but it really comes down to simply: frequency. Fourier analysis sez (sorta) that any sound can be represented by a combination of sine waves (single frequency tones). Simpler sounds can be represented by lower-frequency waves. The more complex the sound, the more high-frequency component it can be said to have, and at higher frequencies, half a wavelength in time goes by a lot more quickly. > I would bet that as Moore's law keeps delivering more and > more powerful chips, someone-- possibly a helmet manufacturer--will > introduce a usable ANC device for motorcycles. Designing this into > the helmet seems like the most logical approach, because then the > designer has total control over the acoustic environment. Interesting idea. Let me add to that... imagine the sensing mics placed at the ear positions (obviously, they'd have to be for ANC). Now, imagine a third mic, positioned out of the airstream on the back of the helmet, designed to pick up ambient noise and *add* it back in after the noise-cancelling operation. Sure, you'll get some of the bike noise back (and that's not necessarily bad), but you won't get wind noise, and you *will* get to hear outside cues a lot better! That sound could be equalized so that you don't add a lot of tiring high-frequency component back in, and the rider could choose to adjust both the level of ANC *and* the amount of external sound being fed back in. This third mic idea is on its way to our patent lawyer... :-) -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: RE: PC800: RE: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:08:45 -0400 Importance: Normal Ooops. My whole point in posting my last message was going to be this: while ANC tackles low frequencies well, it does nothing for the more damaging high frequencies. Foam-type ear inserts (passive) are just the opposite; they tend to attenuate higher frequencies much faster than lower frequencies, and so they'd still get my vote as the dampener-of-choice if one wanted to reduce some cycling noise. -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:07:49 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Dan Masi CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noise dampeningalso ? Dan Masi wrote: > > Ooops. My whole point in posting my last message was going to > be this: while ANC tackles low frequencies well, it does nothing > for the more damaging high frequencies. Foam-type ear inserts > (passive) are just the opposite; they tend to attenuate higher > frequencies much faster than lower frequencies, and so they'd still > get my vote as the dampener-of-choice if one wanted to reduce some > cycling noise. > > -dan You folks are like, way beyond me on this subject, but from a laymans perspective, I bought the Clearview +5 only for the noise protection. If I could not have gotten rid of the noise while riding this bike I would have sold it in a heartbeat. One big reason I got rid of the ACE. I just got sick of the wind noise. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:32:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:21:30 -0400 To: ROBJHALL@aol.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC sitings on a long road trip & 89 4 Sale! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 7:47 AM -0400 9/3/99, ROBJHALL@aol.com wrote: > >Also I would just like to remind listers that I have an 89 PC w/ 43 K for >sale. [I bought a 96 last fall and haven't figured out how to ride both at >the same time and can't convince my wife to learn to ride]. > Okay....get a blow torch, some metal, a little bit of paint, and make yourself a PC800 Cabrio.... Be the first on your block! Weld the two bikes together along the crash bars, add some metal and a couple of U-joints between the front wheel bolts to joint the two front wheels, and Voila! PC800 Cabrio....finally a solution for those persons who wanted a larger tank....you now have double the capacity! Don't forget to post some pictures when it's done.... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:21:18 -0400 Subject: PC800: Off to Vermont To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I'm off to Vermont on the Yankee Smuggler for the next 3 days just to see what's there. If you happen to be cruising in Vermont this weekend and see a bright red Pacific Coast it's probably me. I'll be keeping up with things on the list, but using my on-the-road AOL account: yanksmug@aol.com so it's really me if you see any postings from that address. I think I have my electrical problem solved. A loose wire from the positive side of the battery to its first connection beneath the seat under an allen head screw. I used to have several wires there in the spring of this year as my unswitched power connection to the battery, but moved all but one to a new fuse block. Apparently the screw loosened up over the summer and was making intermittent contact. The reving of the engine caused just enough vibration to cause a poor connection from the battery. Thanks for all the suggestions from the list. As always, they're appreciated. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:49:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Attractions of the Wild West Absolutely no motorcycle content, but if anyone is contemplating a ride out west... See: http://www.outwestnewspaper.com/balls.html Excerpt: Have a ball at the Testicle Festival >From Out West #36, October, By Chuck Woodbury CLINTON, Mont -- I stopped earlier to check out the Testicle Festival. It officially started today but there was practically nothing going on. "All the good stuff starts on Saturday," a young woman serving testicles told me. Today is Thursday. The motto of the annual September event is: "I had a ball at the Testicle Festival." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Gratulations are in order !! Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:06:45 +0200 Hi gang, You can now official congratulate Me with a PC registrated and 100 % = legal to pull My Bushtec trailer. !!! After 2 weeks reading the fine print with the local registration office = , the said tody OK to pull the Bushtec with the Bushtec "heim joint" on = the bike. Th eONLY bushtec in Norway and the only one in Europe with the = original Bushtec "Heim Joint" !!!! I'm VERY happy and will celebrate tonigh ( and maybe also tomorrow with = Frank and family ( who has not got his trailer outfit legal yet) with = some good red !!! Arvid ----------------------------------------------------=20 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... Reach me by ICQ. 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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:39:22 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Steve Zweigart CC: Pacific Coast List Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway Steve Zweigart wrote: > Towards the end of this month, as sort of a post-trial therapy, I > intend to take three nights or so to travel from here to Virginia, > take the entire length of the Blue Ridge Parkway, then return straight > back up I-75 to home. I've been studying my route from the automotive > point of view, and have some narrative information about the Parkway > coming, but would greatly welcome any tips and/or tricks that any of > you may have to suggest about the Parkway. I'd also welcome anyone > interested in joining me for any part of the ride, schedules > permitting. If the weather's good, I intend to camp along the way. Steve, enjoy. Barbara and I came back up the Blue Ridge after Gold Rush in July. Beautiful, serene, no trucks. Ahhhhhh. There is gas, food and lodging on the parkway, but it is few and far between. Much more hilly farther south. Don't let this on but pass on the double yellows or you will be behind some folks forever. Most people we found were pretty good, they pulled over whenever we came up on them. Lots of wildlife including DEER so keep your eyes open, especially in the morning. And the morning is the best time to ride. 250 accross West Virginia and Virginia is full of twisties, go that way to get there. At the end of the parkway in NC follow 19 to 28 to 129 through Deals Gap, then you are on your own. Don't miss this if you can. I wish I could go with. Take your time and enjoy. 45 mph the whole way and their are federallies that will pull you over for speeding. Enjoy you lucky fellow. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:53:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Garbacik To: Thomas Ongstad cc: Steve Zweigart , Pacific Coast List Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good riding weather in October? Sorry, don't have much experience on the East coast. Thanks, Tom '89 Moonbeam Corvallis, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:16:16 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: So you think you had a bad day? I just got this from today's local paper, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner "Moose attacks motorcyclist after collision. A motorcyclist who collided with a yearling moose late Wednesday night was then attacked by the mother, Alaska State Troopers said. Thomas W. Leaman, 29, of North Pole suffered minor injuries from the accident on the Richardson Highway about five miles south of North Pole. The yearling moose died. The mother moose, which stomped Leaman sveral times, left the scene, troopers said. Troopers are still investigating." I wonder what is there left to investigate? Maybe the female moose has started stalking Leaman? :-) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "Tom Garbacik" , "Thomas Ongstad" Cc: "Steve Zweigart" , "Pacific Coast List" Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:29:39 -0400 that is my question exactly. Want to get a ride up there to see the leaves change. If anyone can give a date, that would surely be helpful. Was thinking along the lines of camping, but that is probably going to be out the question. L1011 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tom Garbacik To: Thomas Ongstad Cc: Steve Zweigart ; Pacific Coast List Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 2:54 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway >So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good riding >weather in October? > >Sorry, don't have much experience on the East coast. > >Thanks, > >Tom >'89 Moonbeam >Corvallis, OR > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:46:47 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: "R. A. Robinson" CC: Tom Garbacik , Steve Zweigart , Pacific Coast List Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway R. A. Robinson wrote: > > that is my question exactly. Want to get a ride up there to see the leaves > change. If anyone can give a date, that would surely be helpful. Was > thinking along the lines of camping, but that is probably going to be out > the question. Do some net searching under blue ridge parkway >From http://www.blueridgeparkway.org/highlights.html Trees, trees, trees are nearly everywhere and, come autumn, many of them burst into color. Dogwood, sourwood, and black gum turn deep red in late September. Tulip-trees and hickories turn bright yellow, sassafras a vivid orange, and red maples add their multi-colored brilliance. Finally, various oaks put on a dash of russet and maroon. Evergreen trees include Virginia pine, white pine, hemlock, spruce, and fir. and this http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/fall/idguide.html and this http://www.nationalparks.org/guide/parks/blue-ridge-p-1833.htm and from here http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cletheroe/usa_can/scenroad/brp.htm Foliage Seasons The autumn (fall) foliage season begins in late September when the dogwood, sourwood and blackgum trees turn deep red. Next come the tulip-trees and hickories which turn bright yellow, sassafras which turns vivid orange and red maples which develop a variety of colours. Finally oaks turn russet and maroon. Evergreen trees along the Parkway include Virginia pine, white pine, hemlock spruce and fir. The spring foliage season for flowering shrubs varies with altitude. In general, the display on the Virginia section of the Parkway appears before that on the North Carolina section despite it being further north, because it is at a lower altitude. The following table lists the best times to see spring foliage of various kinds: Flame azalea South of Roanoke to Rocky Knob Mid May Flame azalea West of Asheville Mid-June Mountain laurel Along Otter Creek Mid-May Mountain laurel Other parts of the Parkway First two weeks of June Catawba rhododendron North of Peaks of Otter to Onion Mountain and in Doughton Park First week of June Catawba rhododendron Craggy Gardens and in the Balsams After mid-June Wildflowers Anywhere on the Parkway April to autumn (fall) etc, etc. Lots of great info. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:53:51 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Blue Ridge parkway Sorry my previous post ended up looking like crud. Wasn't so bad when I sent it. You got the gist of it anyway. Thomas -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:24:21 EDT Subject: Fwd: PC800: "Leaf Peeping in NC and New England" To: rar205@sundial.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I << In a message dated 9/3/99 2:54:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, garbacit@ucs.orst.edu writes: << So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good riding weather in October? >> Thanks to the drought, many of the leaves in NC have already begun to turn, not in a normal fall way, but they are wilting and dying. Usually foliage along the BRP is changing during early and middle October depending on elevation and weather! Subtract a week or two for every 500 miles you head North from here. Weather in NC and VA is usually beautiful for riding in October & November but fickle. By the time you get to NH & ME Novemeber is questionable. It all depends on what you wear and how brave you are. I was usally pretty proud when I got my bike out for a ride in December. 40 degrees was my cut-off. [Yes, I'm a weanie!] BTW, I lived in NH & Maine before moving South. The foliage in NC & VA pales in comparison to "leaf peeping" in New England so it's worth it to brave the weather. Rob Cary NC 89 PC w/43K & 4Sale! 96 PC w/4.3 K & Keeping for awhile! >> Return-path: ROBJHALL@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Full-name: ROBJHALL Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:17:11 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: "Leaf Peeping in NC and New England" To: garbacit@ucs.orst.edu In a message dated 9/3/99 2:54:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, garbacit@ucs.orst.edu writes: << So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good riding weather in October? >> Thanks to the drought, many of the leaves in NC have already begun to turn, not in a normal fall way, but they are wilting and dying. Usually foliage along the BRP is changing during early and middle October depending on elevation and weather! Subtract a week or two for every 500 miles you head North from here. BTW, I lived in NH & Maine before moving South. The foliage in NC & VA pales in comparison to "leaf peeping" in New England. Rob Cary NC 89 PC w/43K & 4Sale! 96 PC w/4.3 K & Keeping for awhile! Rob Cary NC Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:38:43 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "kasia en jeroen" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC sitings on a long road trip & 89 4 Sale! Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:28:48 +0200 >Okay....get a blow torch, some metal, a little bit of paint, and make >yourself a PC800 Cabrio.... Be the first on your block! > They allready did that, even put a roof on it. They call it a Honda Civic.... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (1/2 Honda Prelude ?) http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The lismembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: RE: PC800: LED clock,voltage display Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:33:22 +0200 Betty Lise, I think you might have a problem receiving HTML messages. Arvid likes to send his messages in html normally and I believe that gives potential problems with people who have prehistoric mail programs (or so I've read on this list..). Arvid, if you want the dinosaurs on this list to be able to read your messages, go to menu "Extra">"Options"> "tab Send messages / sending">"settings for sending Email", select plain text instead of html. But I'm sure you knew that, since you were able to set it to html once.... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Betty Lise Anderson Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Datum: vrijdag, september 03, 1999 3:10 Onderwerp: Fwd: RE: PC800: LED clock,voltage display >Peter, t sounds like you actually receive Arvid's messages! > >Arvid, every message you post comes to me as a blank message. Maybe my >email program doesn't speak Finnish and Peter's does. > >[Yes, I know your'e from Norway, but my father is of Swedish descent, and >my mother is of Danish descent, and I'm not allowed to talk to >Norwegians.....Hmmm. Maybe you're not allowed to talk to me, and that's why >your messages are blank! I'll have to talk to my parents about tampering >with my email filters!] > > >>From: Peter Noeth >[snip] >>Arvid, >> >> Here in the U.S., at an automotive parts house called Pep Boys, you can >>purchase a little LED that clips to the back of standard ATO blade fuses that >[snip] >>Regards, >> >>Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || Fireball, '96 w/ 10k >> >> >>> ---------- >>> From: Arvid Løvik >>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:52 PM >>> To: PC800 >>> Subject: PC800: LED clock,voltage display >>> >>> When reading all the posts about the LED warning lights, I remembered that I >>> saw somethimg like that in a catalog from a local shop here in Stavanger . >>> >>> I digged it out and it seemed to be one of those things the PC needed: > >[snip] > >Betty Lise Anderson >Columbus, Ohio >'90 PC, 9990 miles, will break 10K today! > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: So you think you had a bad day? Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:40:50 +0200 >from the accident on >the Richardson Highway about five miles south of North Pole. > Isn't everything south of North Pole ? Emile 34 degrees South of North Pole http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:08:39 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: So you think you had a bad day? Emile wrote: > > >from the accident on > >the Richardson Highway about five miles south of North Pole. > > > Isn't everything south of North Pole ? Heh heh.... Everything is south of THE North Pole. However, Fairbanks is actually further north the the town called North Pole (which has all the obligatory Santa Claus and Christmas tourist traps and such) :-) Juan 25 degrees south of the North Pole and ~10 Km north of North Pole, AK -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: For Betty Lise (and Emile) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:40:00 +0200 I have done what Emile advised Me to do and I hope You can read this "Norwegian" text. and Emile....Thanks again ( I would not make much on the PC (personal computer) without You....but..... I never new what the options on settings where. I never bothered to learn all this fancy stuff. If I can manage to get out readable texts and receive some mail, I'm OK !! As You all have understood for so long now, the only PC I love , is that with 2 wheels on. And last to Betty Lise, I have been properly raised and manage to behave nice both to flatland apes and swedish nelsons !! ; ) Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A891675E00D2; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:32:17 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Tom Garbacik" , "Thomas Ongstad" Cc: "Steve Zweigart" , "Pacific Coast List" Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:32:46 -0400 October is great riding... I live about an hour from the BRP (Galax, VA) and ride frequently. It is beautiful any time.... late-Sept to late-Oct should be great riding.... as far as leaves, etc. go I think I mentioned to Steve (off list) but for everyone else the website is www.blueridgeparkway.org ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tom Garbacik To: Thomas Ongstad Cc: Steve Zweigart ; Pacific Coast List Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 2:53 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway > So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good riding > weather in October? > > Sorry, don't have much experience on the East coast. > > Thanks, > > Tom > '89 Moonbeam > Corvallis, OR > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 3 Sep 1999 20:43:12 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:48:23 +0000 (GMT) From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger) Subject: Re: PC800: For Betty Lise (and Emile) To: PC800 Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 01:40:00 +0200, you wrote: -->And last to Betty Lise, I have been properly raised and manage to = behave -->nice both to flatland apes and swedish nelsons !! ; ) --> -->Arvid --> __________________________________________________ =46latland.. Apes...Nelson's....OHBOY..wrassling! :-) Roger AMA# 721102 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Emile" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Betty Lise Anderson" From: David Kelly Subject: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) of "Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:33:22 +0200." <00ae01bef65d$37cc9b60$04eaadc3@jput.demon.nl> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:29:25 -0500 "Emile" writes: > Betty Lise, > I think you might have a problem receiving HTML messages. > Arvid likes to send his messages in html normally and I > believe that gives potential problems with people who have > prehistoric mail programs (or so I've read on this list..). Some of us "dinosaurs" have HTML-capable email clients but go to effort = to disable HTML parsing and execution. There are several reasons, each = by itself is a perfecly good reason to discard HTML formatted email = unread: 1) Just as @AOL.com is one sign of cluelessness, HTML email is another. 2) I have already made my choices as to font, size, and color. Nobody else has my fine sense of taste. 3) Security. HTML is the email cornerstone allowing others to do things with my computer that I do not wish them to be able to do. *Fear* HTML, Javasript, Active-X, and all Microsoft-originated "enhancements". Search Bugtraq and/or NTBugtraq for yourself. As for the notion "prehistoric mail programs" have problems with HTML? No, they pass it perfectly fine. Its the human who has problems picking the text out of the HTML. I can read it. But if I reply to the sender = using only my view of the HTML, its a sure bet the sender can't make = much sense out of it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Emile" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Betty Lise Anderson" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:29:25 CDT." Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:32:57 -0500 David Kelly writes: > Some of us "dinosaurs" have HTML-capable email clients but go to effort > to disable HTML parsing and execution. There are several reasons, each > by itself is a perfecly good reason to discard HTML formatted email > unread: > > 1) Just as @AOL.com is one sign of cluelessness, HTML email is another. > > 2) I have already made my choices as to font, size, and color. Nobody > else has my fine sense of taste. > > 3) Security. HTML is the email cornerstone allowing others to do things > with my computer that I do not wish them to be able to do. *Fear* > HTML, Javasript, Active-X, and all Microsoft-originated > "enhancements". Search Bugtraq and/or NTBugtraq for yourself. > > As for the notion "prehistoric mail programs" have problems with HTML? > No, they pass it perfectly fine. Its the human who has problems picking > the text out of the HTML. I can read it. But if I reply to the sender > using only my view of the HTML, its a sure bet the sender can't make > much sense out of it. I pushed my own SEND button too soon. 4) Message size. An HTML formatted message is about 3 times the size of a plain text message as the plain text is sent as one attachment, and the HTML is sent as another. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:50:49 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rudy Hernan Garrido Leyton" To: Subject: PC800: PC 800 new parts codifications Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:49:18 -0600 Hello ! I am a owner of a PC 800 1994 in Santiago de Chile.Because there are = only a few number of this model in my country,all the parts must be = imported from USA.Now I have problems with the key-ignition and the = lights control.Anyone knows where I can found information about the new = codification of parts from the PC800.?? My english is not very good,but I speak Spanish and German too! Muchas gracias-thank=B4s-vielen Dank Rudy H. Garrido rudyg@entelchile.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 3 Sep 1999 21:58:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:03:32 +0000 (GMT) From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger) Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net Ok..I have had it...I don't know if I am a dinosaur or not.. So's who's gonna tell me if I am a dinosaur or not..cuz ain't nobody gonna call me out of touch (laughing) and me not knowd it! (whine..I don't know that much about computers..whine)...ifin I read his messages..am I or am I not a dinosaur? :-) You know..sometimes these things get way outa hand..(laughing)... eh..decided I will rassle with the wife later on...then onto golfing in the morning..then onto a nice ride to dinner tomorrow night on the PC...then more rassling! :-) (mumbling as he hits the send button...HTML..dinosaur...RASSLING!) On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:29:25 -0500, you wrote: -->"Emile" writes: -->> Betty Lise, -->> I think you might have a problem receiving HTML messages. -->> Arvid likes to send his messages in html normally and I -->> believe that gives potential problems with people who have -->> prehistoric mail programs (or so I've read on this list..). --> -->Some of us "dinosaurs" have HTML-capable email clients but go to = effort=20 -->to disable HTML parsing and execution. There are several reasons, each= =20 -->by itself is a perfecly good reason to discard HTML formatted email=20 -->unread: --> -->1) Just as @AOL.com is one sign of cluelessness, HTML email is = another. --> -->2) I have already made my choices as to font, size, and color. Nobody --> else has my fine sense of taste. --> -->3) Security. HTML is the email cornerstone allowing others to do = things --> with my computer that I do not wish them to be able to do. *Fear* --> HTML, Javasript, Active-X, and all Microsoft-originated --> "enhancements". Search Bugtraq and/or NTBugtraq for yourself. --> -->As for the notion "prehistoric mail programs" have problems with HTML? -->No, they pass it perfectly fine. Its the human who has problems = picking -->the text out of the HTML. I can read it. But if I reply to the sender=20 -->using only my view of the HTML, its a sure bet the sender can't make=20 -->much sense out of it. --> --> -->-- -->David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net -->=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -->The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its -->capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. Roger.... I am not a complete idiot...some parts are missing. web page at: http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:06:28 EDT Subject: PC800: Clueless To: rpattee@g-net.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu You may be a dinosaur, but I am clueless. I am going to buy a compass to find up. BernieK469@aol.com 94 PC 54K Overland Park, KS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "CJ Russell" To: Subject: Fw: [Fwd: PC800: Re: PC sitings on a long road trip & 89 4 Sale!] Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:41:40 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CJ Russell To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: PC800: Re: PC sitings on a long road trip & 89 4 Sale!] > > Did you see this CJ. Great price, I think. > > > > Thomas > > > Yes it is, I am actually interested in the one in Washington with less than > 7000 miles on it! I love the 89's and that mileage would be nice. But, I am > thinking of a snowmobile purchase also - any tips? would love to find the PC > of snowmobiles! BTW -- I met a guy today that lives in Houghton Lake and has > an 89 w/45K miles. He got it for 1100$ after a guy hit a deer on it at an > angle and laid it down. The PC even held up good to the deer - very little > damage other than some nasty paint scratches and the right side mirror. The > insurance company offered 1100$ and this guy bought it from his friend for > that amount. BTW also - he may be selling too as he is drawn to the dark > side and thinking about an ST. (Gotta admit - I feel the draw too!!) > > CJ 89 26k "Therapy" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:43:26 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Ann S. Reid" , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: PC800: Guy with 4 '89s Hi Coasters, A while back someone on the list (Juan?) said he had run into a fellow that owned 4 '89 PCs and lived near Eureka or Mendocino. Said he kept two PCs there and two up north. I wrote back and said there's a guy that lives 4 miles down the road from me that fits that description. I couldn't believe there were two of them. Guess what? There aren't. The fellow who used to live down the road from me retired and moved to Mendocino. He contacted me about the Y2K ride yesterday and I confirmed what I suspected, namely that he used to live right down the road from me. In any case, he will have at least 2 spare PCs at the time of the Y2K ride and would like to let European riders use them in exchange for later use of their PCs when he and his buddy go to Europe. I gave him the e-mail addresses of the 4 Europeans that have signed up for the ride and suggested he contact them (Emile, Brian, Wayne: you will probably be hearing from him). I will add a bulletin to the Ride Bulletins page on my web site with the above information including his e-mail address. His name is Bob Gerbo and he can be reached at gerbo@mcn.org Small world, eh? -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Rudy Hernan Garrido Leyton" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 new parts codifications Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:30:47 -0700 Hi Rudy, Using original Honda PC parts us best if you can, but years ago with my = first Motto Guzzi I did not like the stock handlebar switches. I simply = got switches from a wrecked Suzuki bike and spliced the wiring = connection on. Just make sure you are working with the same handlebar = diameter. Like I said, original parts might be best, but if you can't = get them borrow from another model. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -----Original Message----- From: Rudy Hernan Garrido Leyton To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:54 PM Subject: PC800: PC 800 new parts codifications =20 =20 Hello ! I am a owner of a PC 800 1994 in Santiago de Chile.Because there = are only a few number of this model in my country,all the parts must be = imported from USA.Now I have problems with the key-ignition and the = lights control.Anyone knows where I can found information about the new = codification of parts from the PC800.?? My english is not very good,but I speak Spanish and German too! Muchas gracias-thank=B4s-vielen Dank Rudy H. Garrido rudyg@entelchile.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:11:58 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: KGray96057@aol.com CC: annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising Hi Kendall, KGray96057@aol.com wrote: > Hmmm... I may have to switch to Stafe Farm. Good news about the PC! They were very good to work with. We have an outstanding agent and that is partly what makes the difference for us. However, everyone we talked to was pleasant, concerned, courteous, helpful and competent. I got the check for the estimate minus my deductible today. The is my first claim with them in the ten years I've been with them. I'm impressed. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:18:20 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Will Edwards CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising Hi Will, Will Edwards wrote: > Congratulations, now you will still have a back up bike to ride. Thanks. Actually, I will alternate them every day so that both stay in good shape. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:26:00 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Spain, Harrison" CC: "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Hi Harrison, Spain, Harrison wrote: > This address should be (I called them): > > http://sporttouringusa.com > > For some reason, I can't get to this URL but he assures me it is correct (I > spelled it back very slowly). I couldn't get to either URL either... No such server according to Netscape... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:29:17 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: "Spain, Harrison" , "PC800 Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: Which electrical guage? Hi Francois, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > There should be the 'www' in the URL. Try > http://www.sporttouringusa.com . That's the one I use. Yup. That one works for me too. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:42:53 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jeffrey King CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Great news, Leland Hi Jeffrey, Jeffrey King wrote: > That's great, Leland. Provided nothing is twisted, I'd rather have > my old bike/car back than to try to find one like it for the little > money the insurance companies would give you for it. Keep us > posted! Thanks. My mechanic rode it and at first it pulled to the right. It appears that the forks twisted in their moorings so he straightened those around, tried it again and the pulling was gone. Looks like the only damage was cosmetic. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:44:40 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Selden Deemer CC: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Great news, Leland Hi Selden, Selden Deemer wrote: > It is gratifying to read that Black Beauty will be getting back on > the road; even more so that one of the first things that Leland did > after the accident was buy another PC, get back in the saddle and shake > off the accident. Thanks. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 01:05:25 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Dan Masi CC: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Koss Stereo canalphone Earplug , noisedampeningalso ? Hi Dan, Dan Masi wrote: > But much of > the noise in cycling is gonna be high-frequency wind rush, and noise > cancellation today won't put a dent in those. What does put a dent in the wind noise is soft foam ear plugs. They help a lot on the freeway and I can still hear traffic, etc. And if I don't wear them, my hearing will get worse and I don't want that to happen! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: shopmade handlebar risers Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:06:59 -0700 Greetings. I needed them raised. Cinnamon rolls too, but mainly the handlebars. I originally thought I could make a block and put it under the bottom clamp through which I thought bolts went and screwed into a plate below. Not so. The bottom clamp is integral with the fork and contains the threads. So then I could visualize a middle clamp, with a half disc to go into the bottom clamp and a half-disc sized receptacle for the bars, with appropriately sited holes to accomodate longer bolts. I talked with friend Jim the Machinist and told him of the GenMar price posted here by Jim Nyffeler. He (Jim) thought that was a fair price considering they had to make a mold and cast the pieces (or machine them). So I broached the subject of my hand making them out of an aluminum billet. We agreed the bottom disc would be the difficult part (plus buying a tool to bore the 1" hole for the top). Then the subject turned to--hey duh--wood. I am a professional woodworker with--and I freely and loudly proclaim this--more tools than Norm. An hour and a half later I had two sets of risers made out of hard rock maple and a birch dowel, 1" diameter. Epoxy: great stuff. I gave them a coat of black paint and some lacquer. I bought some longer bolts on the way home. About forty five minutes of stand up tinkering at home and, like Jim's bike, everything is dandy. No binding of wires. I did take the time to cut off the ring around the lock. This appears to be merely a security device to keep someone from twisting it to the side to unlock the fork. I held the wires away and carefully scored it at the base of the arc, using a hack saw. That allowed me to bend it with pliers and it broke off. The remaining tabs I tapped downward using a small centerpunch. The key still works; I am able to turn it using the ring that is on it. (I would love to be able to pull that cylinder up flush with the grey piece but I think that would disable the fork lock (not a big deal) but It does not appear that cylinder is moveable. Anyone see that differently?) To set the bars at maximum comfort (there is still some adjustability in them) I just climbed aboard and tried to get a reasonably straight line from the steering head to my shoulder. Amazing the difference. The purpose of this post is to show that it can be done. I didn't want to go into great detail unless someone is interested in replicating the process. Lee Barker 94regon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: So you think you had a bad day? Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:10:05 +0100 Magnetic Deviation' is a terrible thing! Might be best to base it on the fact 'everything is north of the South Pole' ;-) Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) ---------- > > Emile wrote: > > > > >from the accident on > > >the Richardson Highway about five miles south of North Pole. > > > > > Isn't everything south of North Pole ? > > Heh heh.... Everything is south of THE North Pole. However, Fairbanks is > actually further north the the town called North Pole (which has all the > obligatory Santa Claus and Christmas tourist traps and such) :-) > > Juan > 25 degrees south of the North Pole and ~10 Km north of North Pole, AK > > -- > Juan Antonio Goula > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W > "There is only one difference between a non-rider > and me. I am not mad." > (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: "Rudy Hernan Garrido Leyton" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 new parts codifications Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:15:43 +0100 We have the same problem here in England. Obtain a microfiche on the PC800 and your local Honda dealer can use this find out the correct part and part number. Or better still use a microfiche reader at the library and order it by mail order direct from the US. Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rudy Hernan Garrido Leyton To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC 800 new parts codifications Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:49 AM Hello ! I am a owner of a PC 800 1994 in Santiago de Chile.Because there are only a few number of this model in my country,all the parts must be imported from USA.Now I have problems with the key-ignition and the lights control.Anyone knows where I can found information about the new codification of parts from the PC800.?? My english is not very good,but I speak Spanish and German too! Muchas gracias-thank´s-vielen Dank Rudy H. Garrido rudyg@entelchile.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (usr48-dialup304.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net [166.62.175.184]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35316) 4 Sep 1999 17:16:21 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:09:05 -0500 From: Bill Cool Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have a 1990 PC800 in great condition for sale. It come with the tall and short windshields, a full cover. It has the dealer installed Hondaline radio w/speakers. 11000 well cared for miles. Please post with this contact info. bcool@cwix.com or Bill at 402-571-2170. I have a JPG of the bike I can email you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (usr48-dialup304.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net [166.62.175.184]) by PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35318) 4 Sep 1999 17:23:19 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:16:03 -0500 From: Bill Cool Subject: PC800: PC800 for sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have a 1990 PC800 in great condition for sale. $3300 It come with the tall and short windshields, a full cover. It has the dealer installed Hondaline radio w/speakers. 11000 well cared for miles. Please post with this contact info. bcool@cwix.com or Bill at 402-571-2170. I have a JPG of the bike I can email you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:46:53 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Wild Idea Yesterday at work I was perusing a safety supply catalog when I ran across an ad for some ultra reflective tape. It comes in a 2" role and only has 30 ft of tape on the roll for about $50.00. So, I was thinking, "what if I were to cut that down into pin stripe-sized widths and applied them to my bike?" I've been concerned that riding a black motorcycle at night was something of a handicap--even with 2357's on the back. This tape not only boasts "the highest reflectivity in the industry" but also glows in the dark after lights have shined (shown?) on it. I have to admit that even with my reluctance at applying adhesive to the tupperware the thought of a black bike with gold pin striping is kinda...sorta...well...cool! Of course SWMBO shrieked, "Fifty Bucks? For a roll of Tape???" Obviously I have some work to do here! Whaddya Think? --Ralph Couey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:57:34 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:02:52 +0000 (GMT) From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger) Subject: Re: PC800: Wild Idea To: pc800hpcuhedu Reply-to: rpattee@g-net.net I think the idea is pretty good...and if you look a tad bit further, you may find a color that is quite nice. On our police units, which are white, we use a reflective Royal Blue, that will appear to be illuminated after direct light is applied to it. =20 All I can say..is that I am hanging around the motor pool area...ahem, waiting for a chance to ask... "You throwing that away?" :-) __________ On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:46:53 -0500, you wrote: -->Yesterday at work I was perusing a safety supply catalog when I ran -->across an ad for some ultra reflective tape. It comes in a 2" role = and -->only has 30 ft of tape on the roll for about $50.00. So, I was -->thinking, "what if I were to cut that down into pin stripe-sized = widths -->and applied them to my bike?" I've been concerned that riding a black -->motorcycle at night was something of a handicap--even with 2357's on = the -->back. This tape not only boasts "the highest reflectivity in the -->industry" but also glows in the dark after lights have shined (shown?) -->on it. I have to admit that even with my reluctance at applying -->adhesive to the tupperware the thought of a black bike with gold pin -->striping is kinda...sorta...well...cool! -->Of course SWMBO shrieked, "Fifty Bucks? For a roll of Tape???"=20 -->Obviously I have some work to do here! Whaddya Think? --> -->--Ralph Couey Roger.... I am not a complete idiot...some parts are missing. web page at: http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:10:18 +0200 > 1) Just as @AOL.com is one sign of cluelessness, HTML email is another. > Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't call him or Betty Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... > 2) I have already made my choices as to font, size, and color. Nobody > else has my fine sense of taste. > You don't know, because you don't read Arvid's messages. They are well known internationally for their fine style and incredible graphics. ; ) > 3) Security. HTML is the email cornerstone allowing others to do things > with my computer that I do not wish them to be able to do. *Fear* > HTML, Javasript, Active-X, and all Microsoft-originated > "enhancements". Search Bugtraq and/or NTBugtraq for yourself. > Panic seekers enough there all right... ; ) But I understand your concern... I prefer to stick to the CIAC site myself.... > As for the notion "prehistoric mail programs" have problems with HTML? > No, they pass it perfectly fine. Its the human who has problems picking > the text out of the HTML. I can read it. But if I reply to the sender > using only my view of the HTML, its a sure bet the sender can't make > much sense out of it. Thanks for explaining it all to me, I know it can be quite a hassle to reset the properties for sending mail to HTML. I allways thought it was due to the programs, now I know it's the users. If I reply to a HTML message in plain text, the text comes out fine BTW... must be my prehistoric program... >I pushed my own SEND button too soon. >4) Message size. An HTML formatted message is about 3 times the size of > a plain text message as the plain text is sent as one attachment, and > the HTML is sent as another. So the HTML message takes about 0.3 instead of 0.1 seconds, so what.... Over here I get it as one html message, without attachments. Must be my prehistoric program then I guess.... Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:05:07 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: rpattee@g-net.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) Hi Roger, Roger wrote: > Ok..I have had it...I don't know if I am a dinosaur or > not.. So's who's gonna tell me if I am a dinosaur or > not..cuz ain't nobody gonna call me out of touch > (laughing) and me not knowd it! That was funny! Hang in there! (big grin) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:56:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course I took the MSF "Experienced Riders Course" this week. Four hours of classroom work Thursday evening, followed by 7 hours of "range" work at Honda's motorcycle training center today. There are four of these centers in the USA; I don't know where the other three are. Both parts provided a needed tune up (especially since I had never taken a beginner's MSF course, since the MSF hadn't been invented when I started riding back in the stone age.) As would be expected for someone who has been riding for 38 years without benefit of instruction, I have a few bad habits that are very difficult to break. First, kill switches, by and large, didn't exist when I started riding, so it was a struggle for me to remember to hit the kill switch instead of the ignition to turn the bike off. Given that both the Hawk and PC have both switches in the same location, this habit may be the hardest to break. Second bad habit, of which I was unaware, iss a tendency not to look deep enough into turns. The third, of which I was already aware, is a tendency to brake late, and into a turn, instead of finishing my braking beforehand, and getting on the gas at the start of a turn. This one is probably the hardest to break, and will need lots of practice. Even though I was already aware of it, being nagged about it really helped. I'll probably sign up again in a year or two and go through with the PC. Heck, I may even apply to become a MSF instructor, as I had more years of riding experience than anyone else in the course, including the instructors. Well worth $30. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:25:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Ridge Parkway Thomas Ongstad writes: >So, when do the leaves turn color back there? Is there still good > riding weather in October? As Rob Hall reported, due to the drought, we don't expect many colors other than brown and yellow this fall. If you can avoid the leaf maggots (blue haired little old ladies in Cadillacs and SUVs), October is a wonderful time of year to ride the mountains in the south. The last event of the year at T.W.O. will be the "Shamu Shindig," November 5-7. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Emile Nossin" cc: "PC800" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) of "Sat, 04 Sep 1999 20:10:18 +0200." <00e801bef700$bf9ab380$4a76ebc2@emile> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:41:04 -0500 "Emile Nossin" writes: > >I pushed my own SEND button too soon. > >4) Message size. An HTML formatted message is about 3 times the size of > > a plain text message as the plain text is sent as one attachment, and > > the HTML is sent as another. > > So the HTML message takes about 0.3 instead of 0.1 seconds, so what.... > Over here I get it as one html message, without attachments. Must be my > prehistoric program then I guess.... 4k is a good working number for the average size of a message on this list (our members are pretty good about trimming the quoted portions of their replies to a thread). With a 28.8k modem, 2k bytes/sec is a good working number for thruput. So 2 seconds is about right for an average text message. Or 6 for HTML. With multiple messages in your mailbox a good POP3 client can overlap the message downloads increasing the 2k/sec number toward the best case of about 2.6k. Compression often doubles these rates. So we are still in the 1 second range. Some people have quotas on their ISP mailbox. Not me. I *still* don't care for HTML formatted email. Just did some checking on my (local) mail folder and believe I need to do some cleanup: % du -sk Mail 63378 Mail That's 63MB of filed email. About twice what it was last time I looked. I only get about 300 messages/day so it appears deleted messages may be disappearing but not being released. I automate my email and comic strip downloads. Unattended over a 28.8k modem connection all of the above takes less than 15 minutes per day. Yet I'll still complain about wasted bandwidth of HTML email. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:10:16 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Ralph Couey , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wild Idea Hi Ralph, Ralph Couey wrote: > Yesterday at work I was perusing a safety supply catalog when I ran > across an ad for some ultra reflective tape. It comes in a 2" role and > only has 30 ft of tape on the roll for about $50.00. So, I was > thinking, "what if I were to cut that down into pin stripe-sized widths > and applied them to my bike?" I've been concerned that riding a black snip... Sounds gorgeous and like a LOT of work! (grin) Good luck! Don't know, if you've cut it to pin-stripe widths if it would add much to the safety factor, though. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:14:31 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Lee Barker , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: shopmade handlebar risers Hi Lee, Lee Barker wrote: > An hour and a half later I had two sets of risers made out of hard rock > maple and a birch dowel, 1" diameter. Epoxy: great stuff. I gave them a > coat of black paint and some lacquer. I bought some longer bolts on the way > home. Do you think the maple will hold up to road vibration and such? -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:31:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:31:22 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Selden Deemer > > First, kill switches, by and large, didn't exist > when I started riding, so it was a struggle for me to remember to hit > the kill switch instead of the ignition to turn the bike off. > I'm sorry, but this is the first I've ever heard of this. With each bike I've had (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, 76-89) I always read the owner's manual before I ride it. In each one, it says that the kill switch is for emergency use, and there is either an explicit instruction or implication that the bike should be normally shut off with the ignition switch. (Explicit in the KZ440 manual, implied, to me, in the PC manual.) What would be the reason for using the kill switch to shut off the ignition? I'm guessing it's safety related, considering the source. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("Huh, winter storage, what's that?") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1b9) with SMTP id 1705861; Sat, 04 Sep 1999 21:16:17 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Zweigart" To: "Pacific Coast List" , "Clay & Shelly Leihy" Subject: Re: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:59:55 -0400 I was initialy taught when I started riding my PC (which is my first "real" motorcycle) to go through a five-step routine whenever dismounting my bike: (1) 1st gear (or neutral in my garage), (2) sidestand down (which, incidently, kills my bike when in gear), (3) steering hard-left, (4) kill switch off, and (5) key off and out. Getting this routine down pat has ABSOLUTELY prevented me from things like laying my bike down when dismounting or leaving the bike on and killing the battery. I, too, questioned the kill switch routine, as it sort of seemed like a redundant and unnecessary step. The best answer I received was that using the switch routinely makes it intuitive so that, in an emergency, one will be more likely to utilize the switch. With a big bike like the PC, I think I would like the idea of instinctively killing the bike via switch rather than laying pinned under it in a ditch, dazed, in a pool of gas leaking from the tank, etc. I've also come up on a couple of bike accidents suffered by others, and the first thing on my mind in both cases was to kill the bike. My guess (non-educated, I might add) is that killing via the switch versus the key does the same exact thing so far as the engine is concerned. The only difference is that the kill switch leaves the electrical goodies turned on. Could this be why the manufacturers don't recommend using it....to reduce the liklihood of killing the battery? I'd personally like to hear the manufacturers and MSF people face off on this one to get to the bottom of the real poop! Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Clay & Shelly Leihy To: PC800 Mailing List Sent: Saturday, 04 September 1999 20:31 Subject: Re: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Selden Deemer > > > > First, kill switches, by and large, didn't exist > > when I started riding, so it was a struggle for me to remember to hit > > the kill switch instead of the ignition to turn the bike off. > > > > I'm sorry, but this is the first I've ever heard of this. With each bike > I've had (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, 76-89) I always read the owner's manual > before I ride it. In each one, it says that the kill switch is for emergency > use, and there is either an explicit instruction or implication that the > bike should be normally shut off with the ignition switch. (Explicit in the > KZ440 manual, implied, to me, in the PC manual.) What would be the reason > for using the kill switch to shut off the ignition? I'm guessing it's safety > related, considering the source. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.1b9) with SMTP id 1705910 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 04 Sep 1999 21:20:17 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Zweigart" To: "Pacific Coast List" Subject: PC800: Aerostitch Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:04:05 -0400 I'm seriously considering biting the bullet and investing in a set of Aerostitch riding duds. Probably Darien. Before I spend a significant percentage of my hard-earned cash on an outfit, I feel the need to seek advice from "the crowd." Please advise... Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: Re: PC800: Aerostitch To: Steve Zweigart , Pacific Coast List I have the one piece Aerostich. I would buy another, espcially when they double flap the zippers. I feel very safe in it. I also have the hip pads in it. I wear it everyday on my commute and most recently out to Missoula MT and back from DC. --- Steve Zweigart wrote: > I'm seriously considering biting the bullet and investing in a set of > Aerostitch riding duds. Probably Darien. Before I spend a significant > percentage of my hard-earned cash on an outfit, I feel the need to seek > advice from "the crowd." Please advise... > > Steve Zweigart > Maysville, Kentucky > '97 PC800 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > === Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) Sun, 5 Sep 1999 05:15:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:18:19 -0500 From: MICHAEL TOLAR To: Steve Zweigart CC: Pacific Coast List Subject: Re: PC800: Aerostitch I have the Darien jacket and pants. I had a little trouble getting the correct sized pants (the Aerostitch people will work with you but you have to pay for freight and insurance each time you send the item back) although if you are a standard size you probably won't have a problem. I have the optional hip and back pads. The jacket also comes with an inner jacket that can be worn separately. The jacket keeps me warm into the forties below that I use an electric vest. I the nineties soak your T-shirt and open the vents. It's hot but not unbearable. Rain protection is excellent. I've been in two major rain storms this summer and stayed relatively dry. I highly recommend the Darien and would buy it again. I originally wanted the one peice suite but my body and the one peice didn't quite see eye to eye. Mike Tolar '98 PC800(Red Alert) Willowbrook, IL Steve Zweigart wrote: > I'm seriously considering biting the bullet and investing in a set of > Aerostitch riding duds. Probably Darien. Before I spend a significant > percentage of my hard-earned cash on an outfit, I feel the need to seek > advice from "the crowd." Please advise... > > Steve Zweigart > Maysville, Kentucky > '97 PC800 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA19111; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 02:45:22 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Manuel J. Solis" To: "Leland C. Sheppard" , "Peter Noeth" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:49:04 -0700 There is a chain called Cycle Salvage in the Bay Area. One in Fremont and one in Santa Clara. They get trashed P.C.s from time to time. I get all my used parts from them.... FWIW MORTTIS 89' PC -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard To: Peter Noeth Cc: 'PC800 List' Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 11:09 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Parting out bike? I need connectors >Hi Peter, > >Peter Noeth wrote: > >> I can't find any motorcyclejunk yards near Sacramento, CA , > >I thought there was one out on Sunrise south near the auto junk yards. Did you ride >out that way? There are signs on both sides of the roads (I think they were on both >sides) by manufacturer. You might take a spin out there. They are mostly in one >stretch and there are all kinds of them. I'm about 95% positive I saw one that said >"motorcycles". > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding >'89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 12,000 miles and rising >PCOG/PCOC #79 > >Mother of all tupperware parties: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 03:17:12 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Bike Color Change I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever had their PC painted, if so what were the results and cost? I have been wanting to get my 89 painted a metallic red to match my other two vehicles, unless there is someone that would like to swap my 89 body panels for their (I forgot what year, 94??) maroon body panels??? JPatton 88 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-speed 89 PC800 w/ Backpacker Trailer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: HTML Email (was: Re: PC800: LED clock,voltage display) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:43:09 +0200 >With a 28.8k modem, 2k bytes/sec is a good working number for thruput. >So 2 seconds is about right for an average text message. Or 6 for HTML. >I automate my email and comic strip downloads. Unattended over a 28.8k >modem connection all of the above takes less than 15 minutes per day. >Yet I'll still complain about wasted bandwidth of HTML email. Arvid and I have ISDN. I get about 200 messages a day, it usually doesn't take more than one or two minutes. Can't notice the difference between html or plain text. I have to pay for every second online though...allthough not for long. The first provider with free phoneline will come online next month in this ancient part of the world and cable is only 3 months away from this little town. Then I really don't see the difference between html and text anymore : ). Can't imagine surfing on a 28K8.....you're a dinosaur somewhere David --> ; ))) <--- Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:59:30 +0200 >I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever had their PC painted, if so >what were the results and cost? >JPatton Go to http://go.to/pc800 and click on "Rob van de Wetering's blue PC". He repainted his '89 to a beautifull blue color. In the new window with the picture click on the title with his name or on the linked name 'Rob" to get his Email. To save you the trouble, here it is: robwet@bart.nl Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Kill switch (was: MSF Experienced Rider's Course) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:07:17 +0200 >The best answer I received was that using the switch >routinely makes it intuitive so that, in an emergency, one will be more >likely to utilize the switch. >Steve Zweigart The ST has a bank angle sensor killing the engine automatically when dropped. Doesn't the PC has this too ? I really don't know, I only know about the ST's sensor because of a fault they had on the first model, but I could imagine the PC has this as well. Can't remember my PC was running after it's slide... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... (now including some stupid banners that suddenly appeared...) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 05:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu There used to be a blue one in my area of North Alabama. May still be here, but I haven't seen it lately. It looked real good from a distance, but a close examination revealed some defects in the repainting job. I would think it could be done well if you find the right person to do it. Tony --- jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com wrote: > I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever had > their PC painted, if so > what were the results and cost? > I have been wanting to get my 89 painted a metallic > red to match my other > two vehicles, unless there is someone that would > like to swap my 89 body > panels for their (I forgot what year, 94??) maroon > body panels??? > > > JPatton > 88 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-speed > 89 PC800 w/ Backpacker Trailer > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > === My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: wax/cleaner recommendations Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 05:36:47 PDT Lee sent the following: >What has been your best experience with cleaning and waxing a black PC? >The >seller recommended a black toned wax but the young dude at the auto stuff >store, a veteran of several years in a body shop, said it ain't very good. Hey Lee, welcome to the list. I also thought the black wax would be just the thing to wax my black 95. Sounded like a great idea at the time. Unfortunately I ended up with black wax on most everything except the bike !! Black is a bear to keep clean and shiney but here are a few things I've done to keep mine looking good. 1. Any good auto past wax or liquid is fine. Try to find one that has Canubra in it. Follow bottle or can directions. 2. I also use Honda Pro Cleaner as a quick touchup and always have a can in the trunk while on a trip to keep that shine. S100 also makes a good wax cleaner but the Honda stuff was on sale. 3. I keep the bike covered, even in the garage. At home I use and old queen sized cotton bed sheet and just drape it over the bike. Easy to get off and on, keeps the dust off and won't scratch the paint. I don't carry a cover on the Road but am considering asking the wife to sew some elastic around the bottom of the bed sheet so it fits a little closer at the bottom. 4. Keep a good feather duster or one of the synthetic dusters handy to do a good wipe down before you ride. Dust on the side of the "tank" can cause scratches from the sides of your knees. Dust the bike off before you ride. 5. Do a search of the archives for a product made by 3M for polishing paint over plastic. It was recommended. 6. While in the archives, do another search for motocross number plate backing. This is a heavy weight plastic that you can cut to fit different area's of the bikes body panels to protect from scratches, such as the mentioned sides of the "tank", top of the ducktail, sides of the bag swells on the back. Comes in clear or black (other colors also but no red) is available from any decent motocross shop or from Dennis Kirk supply. The plastic peels off with a minimum of fuss and no left over goo and is really tough. I use the black on the sides of the "tank". 7. IMHO, there is no way to keep the bike 100% scratch free, you are going to pick up the occasional scratch. The goal is to keep those scratches to a minimum and to try and hide the ones that do show up with use. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: MSF Experienced Rider's Course "Clay & Shelly Leihy" writes: > I'm sorry, but this is the first I've ever heard of this. With each > bike I've had (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, 76-89) I always read the > owner's manual before I ride it. In each one, it says that the kill > switch is for emergency use, and there is either an explicit > instruction or implication that the bike should be normally shut > off with the ignition switch. (Explicit in the KZ440 manual, implied, > to me, in the PC manual.) What would be the reason for using the kill > switch to shut off the ignition? I'm guessing it's safety related, > considering the source. This was the only new thing that I learned during the course, and I specifically raised a question about it during the classroom session. The explanation was very similar to that provided by Steve Zweigart. Some of the bikes there were cruisers with ignition switches in very odd locations. As a rule of thumb (excuse the pun) MSF recommends using the kill switch because it's immediately accessible and in virtually the same place on all bikes. After 38 years of riding, this is going to be a difficult new habit to learn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:28:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Wild Idea I bought two of small rolls of 3/4" wide bright orange reflective tape and used them along the bottom edges of the trunk, sides and back. This makes a reflective "stripe" that is visible from both sides and the rear. Fits in well with the lines of the bike. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: shopmade handlebar risers "Lee Barker" writes: > ...I had two sets of risers made out of hard rock maple and a birch > dowel, 1" diameter. Epoxy: great stuff. I gave them a coat of black > paint and some lacquer. I bought some longer bolts on the way home. Hard rock maple is great stuff, but I would not want to rely on it for this application, as unlike aluminum, wood breaks instead of bending when it is stressed. Given the role that your handlebars play in controlling the vehicle, I think it's extremely dangerous to rely on wood for this application. This approach seems like an excellent way for a proof of concept. You have made a machinist's pattern. Now it's time to find someone who can carve the same part out of billet alloy. If you do so, I'm sure that you would find a market on the PC list, if you're interested in doing this on a semi-commercial basis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Kill switch (was: MSF Experienced Rider's Course) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 07:47:37 -0700 Hi Emile, I don't know about earlier models, but my 1998 will still run in the horizontal position. I, unfortunately discovered this when dropping it during the licensing exam. :o((( Roger Bowen 98 PC - 'Wabbit' Grants Pass, Oregon ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin > >The ST has a bank angle sensor killing the engine automatically >when dropped. Doesn't the PC has this too ? I really don't know, >I only know about the ST's sensor because of a fault they had on >the first model, but I could imagine the PC has this as well. >Can't remember my PC was running after it's slide... > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:53:45 -0400 From: Dale To: "Michael D. Linkous" CC: Pacific Coast Subject: Re: PC800: small oil leak boundary="------------1D5CF53A98EEF55B428ACD3C" --------------1D5CF53A98EEF55B428ACD3C Without having my plastic off I can't picture any oil that might be run outside of the engine. My wife's bike does but she has an oil cooler. That hose you describe seems to be a coolant hose. "Michael D. Linkous" wrote: > Just wondering if any of you have had a similar situation: PC has been > parked now for 3 days. Went out today and noticed 3 drops of oil > right close to the side kickstand. After inspection, I noticed a leak > from where a rubber hose joins the engine. Pardon my "engine > anatomy". I was absent that day. Right in front of the side kick > stand is a big hose that I assume carries engine oil to be cooled. > Evidentily, a little bit has been spraying back as I noticed some > residue around the kickstand, oil filter, and bottom of the drip > pan. I just took a screwdriver and tightened the clamp that held the > hose in place. It was pretty tight but I turned it another full turn > or so. Hope that takes care of it. I ran the engine a few minutes, > but guess I can tell more the next time I take a ride. If anyone has > experienced the same, I would appreciate knowing if that took care of > it. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > Michael D. Linkous > Bluefield, WV1997 PC 800 > http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous -- Dale Hurley "Hate is an Emotion, Not a Crime." - Me --------------1D5CF53A98EEF55B428ACD3C Without having my plastic off I can't picture any oil that might be run outside of the engine. My wife's bike does but she has an oil cooler. That hose you describe seems to be a coolant hose.

    "Michael D. Linkous" wrote:

    Just wondering if any of you have had a similar situation: PC has been parked now for 3 days.  Went out today and noticed 3 drops of oil right close to the side kickstand.  After inspection, I noticed a leak from where a rubber hose joins the engine.  Pardon my "engine anatomy".  I was absent that day. Right in front of the side kick stand is a big hose that I assume carries engine oil to be cooled.  Evidentily, a little bit has been spraying back as I noticed some residue around the kickstand, oil filter, and bottom of the drip pan. I just took a screwdriver and tightened the clamp that held the hose in place.  It was pretty tight but I turned it another full turn or so.  Hope that takes care of it.  I ran the engine a few minutes, but guess I can tell more the next time I take a ride. If anyone has experienced the same, I would appreciate knowing if that took care of it. -----     -----     -----     -----     -----     -----
    Michael D. Linkous
    Bluefield, WV1997 PC 800 
    http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous  

    --
    Dale Hurley

    "Hate is an Emotion, Not a Crime."  -  Me
      --------------1D5CF53A98EEF55B428ACD3C-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" , "Patricia hotmail" , "Brian Hopkins" , "Yetvart" , "Sjoerd Oskam" , "Pedro Demorais" Subject: PC800: Fw: Harley Bashing, Subtle Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:59:55 +0200 Check out this forwarded URL (at the bottom), it's deep... Enjoy, Emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dennis Sullivan Genealogy To: Sent: zondag 5 september 1999 17:41 Subject: ST1100: st1100:Harley Bashing, Subtle This thread has kinda died out, but we had a rainy day yesterday and I'd been thinking about using the scanner to bring back a piece from 1994 on the Philosophy of Loud Pipes as a safety issue. This was picked up in Newsnet rec.motorcycles some time back. Usually the internet news groups are mostly chaff, and very little wheat, but this piece was contributed by a fellow from Scotland or Wales and it was the kind of subtle bashing that really apealed to me. I wrote to the Author, Chris Malcom to ask if I could use it in a newsletter and he was kind enough to allow it as long as he got the credit for it. So, rather than posting it here, I'll just give the Url and you can read it at your leisure.. http://www.visi.com/~sullivan/loudpipe.htm Dennis Sullivan Monticello, MN 1997 ST1100A STOC #1073, DOD#1939 and on and on...... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: "Selden Deemer" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:32:04 +0100 Hi Selden, In England the IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) and ROSPA ADA conduct 'Advanced Rider Tests'. The test lasts 90 minutes over all types of roads and conditions. A Class 1 Police Examiner follows you watching everything you do! The RoSPA ADA Tests are graded Bronze, Silver and Gold and must be taken every 3 years. More details at http://www.roada.freeserve.co.uk/Test/index.html Some of the differences to the MSF Course I noticed are: 1. Kill switch is used only in an emergency. 2. Frequent use of brakes before entering a bend is discouraged. One is expected 'observe' and see the bend ahead and simply shut off the throttle and arrive at the entry point at the appropriate speed and in the correct gear for that bend and conditions. Of course the use of the brakes is necessary sometimes but the Examiner do not like see a 'pattern' emerging. To obtain a good grade one is even expected to reach the 'speed limit sign' at the specified speed without using brakes. 3 'getting on the gas at the start of a turn' is also not done. Slight increase in throttle is used just enough to maintain a constant speed through the bend. The idea here is to minimise the demands on the rear tire. Acceleration is used as the road opens up (i.e. the Limit Point') and as you straighten the bike. Limit Point is where the left and right sides of the road appear to meet. This is the point to look at whilst turning. It moves away from you as the bend opens up and comes towards you if the bend sharpens. On a straight road the Limit Point is at infinity. Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) ---------- > From: Selden Deemer > To: PC 800 List > Subject: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course > Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:56 PM > > I took the MSF "Experienced Riders Course" this week. Four hours of > classroom work Thursday evening, followed by 7 hours of "range" work > at Honda's motorcycle training center today. There are four of these > centers in the USA; I don't know where the other three are. Both parts > provided a needed tune up (especially since I had never taken a > beginner's MSF course, since the MSF hadn't been invented when I > started riding back in the stone age.) > > As would be expected for someone who has been riding for 38 years > without benefit of instruction, I have a few bad habits that are very > difficult to break. First, kill switches, by and large, didn't exist > when I started riding, so it was a struggle for me to remember to hit > the kill switch instead of the ignition to turn the bike off. Given > that both the Hawk and PC have both switches in the same location, > this habit may be the hardest to break. Second bad habit, of which > I was unaware, iss a tendency not to look deep enough into turns. The > third, of which I was already aware, is a tendency to brake late, and > into a turn, instead of finishing my braking beforehand, and getting > on the gas at the start of a turn. This one is probably the hardest > to break, and will need lots of practice. Even though I was already > aware of it, being nagged about it really helped. > > I'll probably sign up again in a year or two and go through with the > PC. Heck, I may even apply to become a MSF instructor, as I had more > years of riding experience than anyone else in the course, including > the instructors. Well worth $30. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: GO.TO/PC800 updated with GenMar Handlebar Risers Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:07:22 +0200 go.to/pc800 is updated with pictures of the installing of Jim's handlebar risers from GenMar: http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: Hawk GT List , PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers During breakroom banter at a MSF course last week, I learned of a product I had never heard of before. Several people had used, and swore by the "Stop & Go" tubeless tire pluggers and plug gun. For more information, see: http://www.stopngo.com/ Although I've plugged a few tubeless punctures with regular plug kits, I never had much confidence in the result, even though my last attempt (Dunlop D207 rear) lasted about 5000 miles without a leak. The Stop & Go approach looks to be a lot sounder. Is this a new product? I have never seen it reviewed, and have never seen it in a store. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EKSUM8Y9; Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:19:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: scpcrc@listbot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: lcshepp@directcon.net, electronut@hotmail.com, chiodinc@hotmail.com, swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: TIRES IN THE BALANCE Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:19:27 EDT 1) I'm still Off-List, so please reply directly to me. Also, I'm leaving early Tuesday (9.7.99) morning to join up with the Y2K-1 (1999) Reconnaissance Run for next year's biggie Y2K PC PCH Ride. I'll be gone thru Monday the 20th and off-line as well. 2) TIRE ISSUE: Aside from beginning to lose my confidence in my mechanic (Dale) and the shop (T.J. Jackson's Eastside Performance in Mesa, AZ), I'm a bit miffed. The bottom line is the new ME880's have only been on a week and I've put about 300 miles on them. The front wheel required no weights to balance and the rear wheel weight fell off this morning upon my return from a 200 mile ride. *UH, OH* Side Note: They felt exceptionally sticky when powering thru twisties at goodly leans and higher speeds. They felt a little less comfortable just going straight. I've no clue why. The ME-880's are my 4th set of Metzlers on the Ghost, the other three sets being ML2's & ML2+ which gave me lots of confidence to ride aggressively and lasted around 14-15,000 miles or so. I ran the ML2's at near their max of 49 psi most of the time as that's where they felt best, but never less than 45-46 psi. 3) DEAR MISTER MECHANIC: Here's what I emailed my mechanic this afternoon: "TJ, I went for another test run on the new Metzlers this morning. I went to Saguaro Lake and then to Payson and back (200 miles) ... all good roads with some nice twisties. They seemed to perform (feel) better with a little less air. The bike was not fully loaded but did have 30-40# of extra gear on board. At least the rear tire didn't go squirrelly and scare me like the 3.5 yr. old ML2+ you put on a couple of weeks earlier. *RELIEF* "They are rated at 42 psi max. I started out with 40 psi cold in each. When I got to Payson the front had 46 psi and the rear 48 psi. I let out exactly 2# from each. When I got home and rechecked the tire pressure, the front was front 44# and rear 46#, I noticed the rear wheel blancing weight had fallen off and was lying on the garage floor. It was obvious that it had been mounted directly under the valve stem as there was black sticky there in the exact size and shape as the weight. "I did not know what do since I'm about ready to leave for a 2,500 mile Calif. trip early Tuesday morning and you are closed on Mondays plus today is Sunday and this Monday is a holiday to boot. *DILEMMA* I cleaned the surface of the wheel and the back of the weight and glued it on with Stixall, a Borden product that holds and stays flexible. "FWIW, I just bot a '90 PC-800 and am having Dunlops mounted. The bike is in Ohio and being ferried here later....I hope! Will be curious to compare the Metzlers with the Dunlops. Dunlops are less expensive. The PCeer with whom I rode the North Rim and Zion recently had Dunlops and they felt great. "I hope I did the right thing by gluing the weight back on. HELP!" 4) PC-800 LISTER QUESTIONS: Do you think I did right by regluing the wheel weight? Should I not be concerned? What symptoms should I look for to tell something's out of balance? Is it like a car and will bump-along? Those of you with the ME-880's: What tire pressure are you using empty and fully loaded? When fully loaded (as I will be on Tuesday morning), I carry an extra 80-100# of schtuff: 16-20# in each trunk cheek, 6-10# of foul weather gear on back luggage rack, 40-45# on passenger pad, and (of course) my Mule Camelbak at about 3-5#. Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghost Coaster '90 PC-AZ Currently Nameless: "Lusty Dusty Rose?" (LDR) Sun. 9.5.99 15:25 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Ralph Couey" , Subject: Re: PC800: Wild Idea Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:24:41 -0700 I think it is a good ideal. Maybe the roll could be split up, I don't think one PC would take 30 feet. I too had priced some reflective tape, I was quoted about $100.00 for a 50 feet roll. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: PC800: Wild Idea >Yesterday at work I was perusing a safety supply catalog when I ran >across an ad for some ultra reflective tape. It comes in a 2" role and >only has 30 ft of tape on the roll for about $50.00. So, I was >thinking, "what if I were to cut that down into pin stripe-sized widths >and applied them to my bike?" I've been concerned that riding a black >motorcycle at night was something of a handicap--even with 2357's on the >back. This tape not only boasts "the highest reflectivity in the >industry" but also glows in the dark after lights have shined (shown?) >on it. I have to admit that even with my reluctance at applying >adhesive to the tupperware the thought of a black bike with gold pin >striping is kinda...sorta...well...cool! >Of course SWMBO shrieked, "Fifty Bucks? For a roll of Tape???" >Obviously I have some work to do here! Whaddya Think? > >--Ralph Couey >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:23:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Re: TIRES IN THE BALANCE Ann: I always enjoy your posts. I wish you would hurry and get back on the PC800 list! Anyhow, I was a Tire Engineer for Dunlop for 5 years. I worked at the plant in Huntsville, AL, where we only made passenger car radials. If you are already aware of what I am about to say, then please forgive me. I am only trying to help. I want to keep you safe so that you can keep on posting to this list! :-) Firstly, tire pressures are always rated cold (that is, somewhere around room temp). There is no need to check the tire pressures when they are hot, if you already checked them cold. That is, unless you suspect a leak! You should definitely NOT adjust the tire pressure down due to the pressure rising as the tires heat up. It is normal for the pressure to exceed the rated maximum when the tires are hot. Secondly, about the worst thing that one can do to a tire is to run it with low pressure. The lower the pressure, the more the sidewall flexes, which builds heat in the tire. Especially at highway speeds. Anything within the manufacturer's specifications should not be considered "low pressure", however. I never run any tires with the pressure below the manufacturer's specified range. Finally, it takes a LOT of pressure to blow a tire off the rim. We had a test fixture up in Buffalo, NY (where the motorcycle tires are made), where they blow the tires off of rims with high pressure. I'm told that the tires go off like a bomb whenever they finally blow off the rims. Anyhow, good luck with your tires! Keep sending us your impressions, 'cause I'm going to have to buy a set pretty soon! Tony > "They are rated at 42 psi max. I started out with > 40 psi cold in > each. When I got to Payson the front had 46 psi and > the rear 48 psi. I > let out exactly 2# from each. When I got home and > rechecked the tire > pressure, the front was front 44# and rear 46#, I > noticed the rear wheel > blancing weight had fallen off and was lying on the > garage floor. It was > obvious that it had been mounted directly under the > valve stem as there > was black sticky there in the exact size and shape > as the weight. > === My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Fw: Harley Bashing, Subtle Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:06:26 -0700 I read once about a study done in England, trying to find a relationship between loud pipes & accident rates. The findings were that having loud pipes on a bike made no difference in their accident rates. I have no ideal about the survey's accuracy. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 ; Patricia hotmail ; Brian Hopkins ; Yetvart ; Sjoerd Oskam ; Pedro Demorais Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 1:10 PM Subject: PC800: Fw: Harley Bashing, Subtle >Check out this forwarded URL (at the bottom), it's deep... >Enjoy, > >Emile > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dennis Sullivan Genealogy >To: >Sent: zondag 5 september 1999 17:41 >Subject: ST1100: st1100:Harley Bashing, Subtle > > >This thread has kinda died out, but we had a rainy day yesterday and I'd been thinking about using the scanner to bring back a piece >from 1994 on the Philosophy of Loud Pipes as a safety issue. > >This was picked up in Newsnet rec.motorcycles some time back. Usually the internet news groups are mostly chaff, and very little >wheat, but this piece was contributed by a fellow from Scotland or Wales and it was the kind of subtle bashing that really apealed >to me. I wrote to the Author, Chris Malcom to ask if I could use it in a newsletter and he was kind enough to allow it as long as >he got the credit for it. > >So, rather than posting it here, I'll just give the Url and you can read it at your leisure.. >http://www.visi.com/~sullivan/loudpipe.htm > > >Dennis Sullivan >Monticello, MN >1997 ST1100A STOC #1073, DOD#1939 and on and on...... > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: MSF Experienced Rider's Course Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:29:23 -0700 Thanks for this post, Selden. Just to underscore the value of the ERC: I have taken it twice. I believe it saved my life. I was riding alone on a mountain road, very crimpy, and got a little too fast into a decreasing radius, slightly downhill curve. I did what I had been trained to do and the result was a very lowspeed, low side tipover in the gravel of the shoulder. Nary a scratch to my lovely GS1000G save one on the windshield. I, however, had a megaflow of adrenaline and proceeded to pick the bike upright. It took me twenty minutes of walking around to get my heartrate to settle down. In that time I studied the accident. If I had not done the proper braking and bike handling, I would have gone off the road, through vine maple, twelve feet down into a rocky stream, and the casual observer would not have known there had been an accident. I credit the ERC with the outcome. Perhaps you can make a session happen in your area. I contacted Team Oregon here and they scheduled the class and I went out and beat the brush--talked to motorcycling strangers and handed them a brochure--and made sure we had the minimum number of registrants. I also spoke to the local police chief. We have one bike on the force, and lots of reserves who wannabe the rider. He (the dept.) paid for their taking the class! Just a side note: That was my first up close and personal experience with a PC, which is the official bike used by Team Oregon for the class. I was very impressed with the handling. I asked the instructor his opinion of the bike and that has gone a long way toward my eventually buying one! Lee Barker 94regon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Selden Deemer" , "PC 800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: shopmade handlebar risers Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:02:21 -0700 - >"Lee Barker" writes: > >> ...I had two sets of risers made out of hard rock maple and a birch >> dowel, >Hard rock maple is great stuff, but I would not want to rely on it for >this application, as unlike aluminum, wood breaks instead of bending >when it is stressed. Given the role that your handlebars play in >controlling the vehicle, I think it's extremely dangerous to rely on >wood for this application. Thank you for your thoughtful reply, Selden. I'll respond interstitially. I would not have installed the parts if in any way I thought I was compromising my own safety or that of my only ever passenger, my wife. I studied the function of these parts and I see the stress as being only compression of the wood. Given the torque of the bolts involved I cannot envision the wood failing in any way. (a side note--they are oversize; that is, longer overall and wider (at the holes) than the mating aluminum (alloy) parts) Because the parts fit so well (including the bolt holes) there is no way there could be any movement followed by momentum that would impart additional tangential force to the parts. Because I live in such a litigious society I have no intention of selling these parts or of leaving them on the bike if I ever (unthinkable!) sell it. (more) > >This approach seems like an excellent way for a proof of concept. You >have made a machinist's pattern. Now it's time to find someone who can >carve the same part out of billet alloy. If you do so, I'm sure that >you would find a market on the PC list, if you're interested in doing >this on a semi-commercial basis. I think this is a wonderful idea, but I am not interested in following up at this time. Good discussion! Lee Barker 94regon >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Selden Deemer >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 06:55:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Black paint Has anyone found a really good match for the black used on the 94-95 models? I've tried two different brands, and each was noticeably grayer than Honda's paint. You would think that "black is black" but it's not so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 06:14:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Harley Safety To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I don't know about the effect of loud pipes. My experience has been (knowing a few Harley riders) that on average, they tend to drink and ride more than they should (any at all is more than they should). It is well known that a high percentage of motorcycle accident fatalities involve alcohol or other drugs in the system of the motorcycle rider. I hardly drink alcohol at all, use no other drugs, and definitely would never get on my bike under the influence. However, some people think it is great fun to ride drunk. Tony === My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: Subject: PC800: A true story of Harley (stereo)types Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 06:43:13 -0700 Regarding stereotypes of Harley-Davidson persons: Recently I spent two days at the antique motorcycle swap meet in Tenino, Washington. It is a wonderful event, known in the argot as "old farts and old parts," meaning it has not been overwhelmed by commercial exhibitors. The setting is the city park in Tenino, which is lawn under old growth forest. You can camp for $5. A gravel road runs longituninally through the grove, open at either end to the streets with a "T" gravel road accessing the center of the long gravel road. I was there selling Cushman parts. I was treated as any other. 99% of the vendors had Harley, Indian, even Excelsior parts. Occasionally one would hear an unusual internal combustion sound and everything would stop as a wizened old, or wide-eyed young, rider would cruise down the road on something very old, pop-popping to the end, turning about, and bringing his one-man parade back past the audience again. Then things would return to normal. People came and went frequently. Most riders were Harley types, but not all. Some of the Harley types were "accountants", some were fairly rugged, and a few were simply unacquainted with personal hygiene. All were accepted and treated the same, as far as I could see. At one point two bikes burbled in on the "T" road, which came down a slight incline where it met the long gravel road. The first made the turn, rode briefly on the gravel, and then turned up onto the grass, through the trees, and parked. The second crashed at the turn. A lowspeed tipover, actually, and when the rider got off three facts were clear: 1. The rider was a woman. 2. She was upset and angry. 3. The bike was a Honda, a Harley lookalike. One could make another assumption that would be reasonable: She could not lift the bike up herself. All this happened in front of--and I am not exaggerating--10 Harley types, men and women, who had recently ridden in together. They were STANDING not 40 feet from this scene. Not one of them ventured to help. Two other vendors and I went over and helped the lady get her bike up and on the sidestand. She handled it from there. The three of us who helped were all over 50 years old. The bandannaed, leathered, levied and booted onlookers just stood there. Lee Barker 94regon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Saturday's Ride Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:33:05 -0700 Well I had a pretty lazy Labor Day weekend. Mostly yard work, but did manage to get a little riding in on Saturday. Got away from the house about 2:00 PM and wandered north not sure where to ride to. I then realized I’ve only been into Canada once this year, so crossed the US boarder at Sumas and continued to Hope, BC. From there I traveled on HWY 3 (Crownest HWY) through Manning Park to Princeton. This is a very beautiful area to travel though. From Princeton I started back toward the US and first attempted to cross at Chopada, but the boarder station was closed. I then had to back track and cross over at Osoyoos BC to Oroville, Washington. Since it was a lot later than I had planed on being out, I phoned the wife to let her know everything was OK, I am heading home now. By now it was dark, and the deer were starting to appear. Had one scary moment when a truck had passed me and then suddenly started braking & serving back and forth. I immediately braked and found myself in a group of deer crossing the road on the run. Couldn’t see them until they were in the headlight. I braked for one deer, but really thought a second one was going to strike me broadside. He must have just missed the rear of the bike. I saw plenty more deer the rest of the night, but they were all on the shoulder of the road. Kept my speed down, that’s for sure. No fun in the twisties tonight. The rest of the night I just followed HWY 97 until I could turn west onto HWY 20 (North Cascades HWY). Continued through Twisp & Winthrop and across Washington Pass across the mountains. This is one of my favorite rides through the mountains, although it is usually in the daylight time. I gassed up in Twisp, which was a good thing. It would be 140 miles before I could feed my bike again. Anyway, I just continued west to the super slap of I-5 and then to home. It was 03:15 AM when I pulled into my garage, for a 550 mile day. Not too bad for starting out so late. Saturday was a pretty good day & night. Sunday, it was back to yard work, yuck. :-( Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EKUXL2XJ; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 15:49:42 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: scpcrc@listbot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: I'M OUTTA HERE! Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 15:49:42 EDT TO WHOM IT MAY "NOT" CONCERN.... I'll be off-line and out of the loop Tuesday, Sept. 7 thru Monday, Sept. 20. I'm running away from home ..... again! Will be enjoying Yosemite and surrounding countryside, plus the Pacific Coast Hwy. on my Pacific Coast Mo'cycle) with like minded PCeers. *ZOOM, GAWK, TALK, EAT, SLEEP* IF a situation should arise whereby you need me, (Yeah, Right!!) please feel free to COME FIND ME! *Heh Heh* Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghost-Be-Gone '90 PC-AZ Eye-Candy? I-Candi? My Candee? (Fickle Redhead) Mon. 9.6.99 11:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" To: Subject: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:25:16 -0500 I just got back from another car/motorcycle show down south. Took my Cougar, the trailer, and the PC strapped down "7 ways" on the trailer. On one leg of the trip, I traveled 68 miles in 70 minutes. Yeah, that only averages out to a little under 60 mph right? Well, that average also has going through 5 towns with 35mph speed limits factored into it..... Arrived at the show site, registered the car and the PC, unloaded the PC off of the trailer, wiped them both down, got all set up, wiped and cleaned more, talked to probably no fewer than 30 people about the PC, wiped and cleaned even more, and then finally (3 hours after registering) was judged. After judging, there wasn't anything else to do, so I took off to "evaluate" my competition. Well, the Cougar had to go up against numerous Corvettes and Mustangs (like always), a Grand Prix, a Cutlass, and a few others that escape me now. The competition that the PC went up against was "bad" news. For starters, 4 Harleys. Uh oh. I'm not totally sure what the rest of the competition was, when I saw the 4 Harleys, I flat out stopped looking. I saw from a distance what I think was a 450 Rebel all decked out, a Japanese "Harley wanna-be", a Voyager 12, and some sort of a "home-made" trike. I just saw these in passing. I could have easily missed more. When the awards were handed out, I was pleasantly surprised to finish 3rd (with the Cougar) to two Corvettes (I love it when they have SEPARATE Corvette classes). A few classes later, they began to announce the motorcycle class standings. Third place, Harley. Oh well, I gave it my best shot. Second place, Harley. *SIGH* First place, Rich Fenwick with his 1990 Honda Pacific Coast. I was stunned (note to self... pick bottom jaw up off of the ground). I had just beaten 4 very nice Harleys (and others) in competition. I'm sure there were a few comments from the Harley owners about the "rice burner" getting awarded First Place. To be totally honest, I was "watching my back" until I had the PC loaded back up on the trailer and was on my way out of town... I LOVE it though. The judges had NEVER seen a Pacific Coast before. I am starting to refer to the PC as the bike that Honda made that no one knows about. I took some pictures of the PC strapped down on the trailer, and hope to get them developed, scanned, and the files mailed off to Emile, so everyone can see how it is done with less than $30 in straps from Wal-Mart. (and no Handlebar harness is necessary). I just do it the way Honda says to.... Also, I met a PC owner from Fairfield, IL with a 1997 (with the "naked" front wheel). He only had 4,400 miles on it. I have put that many on my 1990 since buying it less than 4 months ago (and some of you put that many miles on in 2 weeks). No offense to anyone out there, but that is one color combination that I just can't get used to, and the naked front wheel too. I know, to each his own, and so on. Sorry. Just my opinion, FWIW. Opinions are like asshol..... never mind..... Over 24 hours later, and I'm still gloating..... :-) Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles (with 2 First Place trophies) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:53:13 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Higher passenger footpegs? Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:52:37 -0400 Okay, all you custom designers and Jerry-rigging geniuses, I've got a poser for you. My wife and I like to go riding together on my 89 PC when our son is over at Grandma's, or Uncle Mike's, or wherever we can "get rid" of him. BUT, there are times when Mommy can use a rest and Nick (our son) and I go for a ride together. There is a slight problem. The PC, with about the most passenger legroom I've ever seen on a bike, makes it a little hard for his seven-year-old legs to reach the pegs. Usually, he winds up scooting down partly onto the rider's seat with me so that he can get a firm foothold. So, the question is, anyone have an idea for a modification that will let Nick reach the pegs, but easily return to the stock setup so that Shelly can have her legroom when it's her turn? (Don't say to tell her to get her own bike, she's already ruled that one out.) I've had a few thoughts, but I won't mention them, as I'd like to hear all your creative ideas. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What's winterizing?") ************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Black paint Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:00:18 PDT Selden asked the following: >Has anyone found a really good match for the black used on the 94-95 >models? Selden, I have used the Dupli Color black, #SF 100 on a scratch on the left side of the rear trunk bulge and it matched perfectly. There is also a filler/primer that goes with this. Can't for the life of me remember where I got it, may have been one of the big auto parts places. I ordered a bottle of Pro Honda Griffin Grey for a chip on the left bottom and it also matched perfectly. Don't you just love taking care of the black ? Arggggghhhh !! Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:43:38 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joe Beresford" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:55:02 -0700 hey gang just thought I'd say hi, been real busy with a job that I wish I could have more time to ride from...but it pays the bills... My 90 PC has 65k on it.... getting ready to put it in for some major service... needs a clutch, and I can't stand the sewing machine/ Jetson whine I get... Tires still roll well, tall windshield has finally started cracking across the mounts, the dash meltdown is still melting, not bad only if I forget to throw a old T-shirt down an over the windshield...hahaha Rode to texas last fall with a bald tire..what a xperience... last winter put new steering head bearin in, needs a new rear shock...radio still screams, havent repleced the speakers yet the left one blew apart, dry rotted... Was seen in Key West this Feb again...hehehe it doesn't like the cold an snow like me... Fireman Joe Cincinnati, Ohio http://talk.to/cableguy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:12:39 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:10:56 -0700 Subject: PC800: Windshield update From: "Bruce Haag" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi gang. When I joined the list several months ago, you may remember I plagued you all with questions about getting the quietest riding set-up possible. (I'm the trumpet player with hearing damage that's got to keep playing and teaching and of course riding without doing anymore damage.) Well, this is best set-up I've been able to find: an Arai Quantum-E helmet, North Safety Products Ultra Noise Husher foam ear plugs, and a Clearview +5 windshield. I installed the Clearview just today and it is a notch quieter than the Hondaline tall shield. It is also farther away from your face due to the more upright angle it has. It gives you more "breathing room" and so far I don't mind looking through it. Optically it's fine too. I think that this brand and type of ear plug may have made the biggest difference of all though. They have the typical "bullet" shape with a soft exterior that I have found to be the most comfortable for hours a day. They are not nearly as soft and squishy as most the other brands, but have more density, which I'm sure is responsible for their better attenuation. They are rated at 31 decibles, but seem to out-perform the others with the same rating. I've tried a BUNCH of different kinds. If you're interested in trying them I believe Wal-Mart sells them or you can get them direct (in large quantites) from North Safety Products at 714-524-1655.Iam also stocking them in my music studio at 50 cents a pair, and can send you some if your hearing is going or if you simply want to protect what you have left. I'm on a bit of a crusade with this issue with my fellow musicians and riding buddies because most folks don't recognize this problem until it's way too late. Ringing and hyper-sensitivety are a REAL drag. Sorry to run long on this, but it's been a major issue in my life for several years now and maybe my experience can save someone else some grief. I also installed a Throttlemeister today and it works great. Nicely made, but the left side doesn't fit at all. They must have left out some parts. Sport Touring Accessories is getting a call in the morn'. Take care. Bruce Haag '96 PC800 Red Campbell CA HSTA #8775 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:05:25 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Phoenix arising To: lcshepp@directcon.net CC: annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Leland- Well, the actual hold up now seems to be the folks at the other insurance company. Sentry/Dairyland did everything rapid.y, and my rep, Lori, has been quite supportive. This ither fellow, though.. He told me last monday that they are not sure about the dollar amount of the quote,and wanna find their own adjuster type to give an eval. Two months are going to be passed, I think, before anyone turns a wrench on the PC. Courtesey of my boss- who takes contractors to court on a regular basis, and who's wife is a partner in a major local law firm-I have drafted a letter to these other folks, detailing the inordinate time that is passing, as well as my ending patience. One of the things that I mention is my intent, if they are going to take any longer to authorize work on the PC, to rent another bike, as I am being denied use of my own property. Of course.. This means Harley around here. Might be kinda fun for a while... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:54:36 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners CC: "Ann S. Reid" Subject: PC800: Y2K-1 ride - off the list Hi Coasters, Signing off the list for a couple of weeks. We are getting ready to go on the Y2k-1 ride and Ann Reid is coming in a couple of days early to ride with me in the Sierra Nevada mountains above our place. Have fun, take care, ride carefully. See you in a couple of weeks. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:15:58 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick)" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" Hi Rich, Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick) wrote: > First place, Rich Fenwick with > his 1990 Honda Pacific Coast. I was stunned (note to self... pick bottom > jaw up off of the ground). I had just beaten 4 very nice Harleys (and > others) in competition. I'm sure there were a few comments from the Harley > owners about the "rice burner" getting awarded First Place. Congratulations! That's great! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, "Black Beauty", 138,000 miles and holding '89 Pacific Coast, "White Shadow", 13,000 miles and rising PCOG/PCOC #79 Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:08:22 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Fwd: Re: HTML Email >Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't call him >or Betty >Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... > Anyone calls me or my buddy Arvid "clueless" and I will have to ask them to step outside. Betty Lise Anderson '90 PC, 10,000 miles Columbus, Ohio (home of flatland apes) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: Subject: Re: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:47:10 -0700 I think you more than got even. I bet "green" was the color of the competition. Congratulations on the win. Yes, you better get pictures posted to Emile, or we will just have to drive over with our own camera. I assume your PC is not entirely stock paint wise is it? Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" >I just got back from another car/motorcycle show down south. Took my >Cougar, the trailer, and the PC strapped down "7 ways" on the trailer. On >one leg of the trip, I traveled 68 miles in 70 minutes. Yeah, that only >averages out to a little under 60 mph right? Well, that average also has >going through 5 towns with 35mph speed limits factored into it..... > >Arrived at the show site, registered the car and the PC, unloaded the PC off >of the trailer, wiped them both down, got all set up, wiped and cleaned >more, talked to probably no fewer than 30 people about the PC, wiped and >cleaned even more, and then finally (3 hours after registering) was judged. > >After judging, there wasn't anything else to do, so I took off to "evaluate" >my competition. Well, the Cougar had to go up against numerous Corvettes >and Mustangs (like always), a Grand Prix, a Cutlass, and a few others that >escape me now. The competition that the PC went up against was "bad" news. >For starters, 4 Harleys. Uh oh. I'm not totally sure what the rest of the >competition was, when I saw the 4 Harleys, I flat out stopped looking. I >saw from a distance what I think was a 450 Rebel all decked out, a Japanese >"Harley wanna-be", a Voyager 12, and some sort of a "home-made" trike. I >just saw these in passing. I could have easily missed more. > >When the awards were handed out, I was pleasantly surprised to finish 3rd >(with the Cougar) to two Corvettes (I love it when they have SEPARATE >Corvette classes). A few classes later, they began to announce the >motorcycle class standings. Third place, Harley. Oh well, I gave it my >best shot. Second place, Harley. *SIGH* First place, Rich Fenwick with >his 1990 Honda Pacific Coast. I was stunned (note to self... pick bottom >jaw up off of the ground). I had just beaten 4 very nice Harleys (and >others) in competition. I'm sure there were a few comments from the Harley >owners about the "rice burner" getting awarded First Place. > >To be totally honest, I was "watching my back" until I had the PC loaded >back up on the trailer and was on my way out of town... I LOVE it though. >The judges had NEVER seen a Pacific Coast before. I am starting to refer to >the PC as the bike that Honda made that no one knows about. > >I took some pictures of the PC strapped down on the trailer, and hope to get >them developed, scanned, and the files mailed off to Emile, so everyone can >see how it is done with less than $30 in straps from Wal-Mart. (and no >Handlebar harness is necessary). I just do it the way Honda says to.... > >Also, I met a PC owner from Fairfield, IL with a 1997 (with the "naked" >front wheel). He only had 4,400 miles on it. I have put that many on my >1990 since buying it less than 4 months ago (and some of you put that many >miles on in 2 weeks). No offense to anyone out there, but that is one color >combination that I just can't get used to, and the naked front wheel too. I >know, to each his own, and so on. Sorry. Just my opinion, FWIW. Opinions >are like asshol..... never mind..... > >Over 24 hours later, and I'm still gloating..... :-) > >Rich Fenwick >1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles (with 2 First Place trophies) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Higher passenger footpegs? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:51 -0700 You might try using hose clamps to fasten a block of wood to the top of the stock peg. Or maybe getting thicker soles for his shoes.... Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:12:11 -0300 To: Selden Deemer , Hawk GT List , PC 800 List From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Howdy. I've carried a tubeless repair kit in my trunk for a few years now; I used to carry a cheap one plus a tiny bicycle pump. A couple of years ago I bought the BMW Emergency Repair Kit for tubeless motorcycle tires. The kit consists of: - a tool like an enormous needle with a handle on it, with a rasp-like shank and the side of the eye open - some funny-looking rubber rings in a blister pack - a small tube of glue - a short plastic hose with screw connectors at either end - three CO2 canisters. This all fits into a kit about the size of a cigarette pack that comes with your BMW. We lucky non-Beemer owners can order the guts of the kit from the Beemer dealer (no I don't have the part number.) My Dad made me a nice kit out of heavy canvas, it sits in the bottom of my trunk. Last year, I got to use it. On my way back from a camping trip, changed lanes at 130km/h (85mi/h) and felt the bike way more wobbly under me than it shoulda been. Pulled over (no doubt incurring the wrath of the cars I had just passed.) Rear tire mostly flat. Gyp-Roc (wallboard) screw all the way in, head flush with the tread. Oh yeah -- had visited a friend who had just built a new house, parked in his rock driveway. Followed instructions in the kit: - removed offending object - gooped up the tool with glue and reamed out the hole - pulled rubber ring into the eye of the tool - gooped way more glue onto the rubber thing and tool - shoved tool & ring in all the way without turning, pulled out - cut off rubber protruding from hole - screwed hose onto air stem - screwed one CO2 canister after the other onto the hose No hissing from hole. Elapsed time: 10 minutes. The tire wasn't up to pressure (the instructions said it wouldn't be) so got air at the next gas station, finished ride. The kit says, "400km max, 60km/h" . I ignored the latter, and asked my mechanic if he wanted to put in a proper plug, he said no, and I put another 4000km on the tire, and wore it out. Conclusions: Well worth the 30$ or so I paid for it (it's a one-use-only kit.) I would recommend anyone get one; either you'll get to use it yourself or you'll be a big hero some time when you're out touring with friends. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:18:39 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: Subject: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection and tax stickers on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two stickers on, preferably on the left side of the front wheel - the authorities prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't work with the PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I really don't want to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like the best choice might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens under the reflector on the front fender. Any other ideas out there? thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Progressive sells what sounds like essentially the same kit. Everything fits into a little plastic box about the size of a large bandaid box, which just fits in the narrow channel of the right side of the PC trunk. I have one, and have used it. I'm still interested in the "plugger gun" approach, as inserting the plug is the critical part of the repair. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Daniel MacKay wrote: > Howdy. > > I've carried a tubeless repair kit in my trunk for a few years now; I used > to carry a cheap one plus a tiny bicycle pump. > > A couple of years ago I bought the BMW Emergency Repair Kit for tubeless > motorcycle tires. The kit consists of: > - a tool like an enormous needle with a handle on it, with a rasp-like > shank and the side of the eye open > - some funny-looking rubber rings in a blister pack > - a small tube of glue > - a short plastic hose with screw connectors at either end > - three CO2 canisters. > > This all fits into a kit about the size of a cigarette pack that comes with > your BMW. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:07:16 -0300 To: PC 800 List From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Selden: >I'm still interested in the "plugger gun" >approach, as inserting the plug is the critical part of the repair. The tool that comes with the BMW kit couldn't possibly be simpler to use, if you can put a pencil into a pencil sharpener you can repair your tire. I mean, it has to be, it's made for Beemer drivers. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC3C272010C; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:07:56 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: From: "Ron Kimball" Subject: RE: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:08:09 -0700 |From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) |Date: 9/7/99 1:12:11 PM |I've carried a tubeless repair kit in my trunk for a few years now; [...] |Conclusions: Well worth the 30$ or so I paid for it (it's a one-use-only Ouch, you can get a CO2 inflator at the bike shop and a tubeless repair kit at most anywhere for way cheaper than that. The inflators use standard CO2 cartridges and the repair kits can fix multiple punctures... Take care, RK ----- MailStart Plus - http://www.mailstartplus.com Consolidate Your Mailboxes Into an Organized, Filtered, Spell-Checked, Anywhere, Anytime WebBox -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:13:24 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" , Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:11:18 -0400 Try this: http://www.ironhorsemotorcycles.net/specials5.html Scroll down to item: Inspection Tag Holders. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What's winterizing?") ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chris Norloff To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:18 AM Subject: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? > Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection and tax stickers on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two stickers on, preferably on the left side of the front wheel - the authorities prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't work with the PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I really don't want to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like the best choice might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens under the reflector on the front fender. > > Any other ideas out there? > > thanks, > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, VA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AE756A4014A; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:17:25 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: From: "Ron Kimball" Subject: PC800: Decent picture and info on `89 PC Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:17:28 -0700 I've been looking for decent detail photos of the PC and info on the engine. Is this engine a fore-and-aft twin (like a harley) or a left-and-right twin (like the Motoguzzi or old Honda cx650)? Just wondering if this bike is an evolution of the old SilverWing or what? Take care, Ron ----- MailStart Plus - http://www.mailstartplus.com Consolidate Your Mailboxes Into an Organized, Filtered, Spell-Checked, Anywhere, Anytime WebBox -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:28:43 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "Ron Kimball" Subject: Re: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:27:19 -0700 Both of the BMW kits and thew Stop'N'Go kits are different than the standard plug kits that are so cheap. They work about 100% better. I'm not saying the other plug kits don't work, but if I was out in the middle of the desert in Nevada, I'd rather have either one of the first two kits rather than the standard plug kits. The Stop'N'Go plugs have a mushroom head which the 'Gun' applicator pushed into the tire and mushroom 'cap' expands on the inside of the tire. It is a little bit like taking the tire off the rim and applying a patch inside the tire. The BMW plug has a little 'doughnut' on the end of the plug which you force inside the tire and somehow it makes the plug hold better. Some who has actually used the BMW plug can explain it better .... I only have experience with the standard string type plugs and the Stop'N'Go plug kits. I have seen the BMW kit and plugs but not in use. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ron Kimball To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:08 AM Subject: RE: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers > > >|From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) >|Date: 9/7/99 1:12:11 PM >|I've carried a tubeless repair kit in my trunk for a few years >now; >[...] >|Conclusions: Well worth the 30$ or so I paid for it (it's a >one-use-only > >Ouch, you can get a CO2 inflator at the bike shop and a tubeless >repair kit at most anywhere for way cheaper than that. The inflators >use standard CO2 cartridges and the repair kits can fix multiple >punctures... > >Take care, >RK >----- >MailStart Plus - http://www.mailstartplus.com >Consolidate Your Mailboxes Into an Organized, Filtered, Spell-Checked, >Anywhere, Anytime WebBox > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:23:25 -0400 Subject: PC800: I got booted off the list! Listers: Well, I'm assuming I got booted off the list, or the server imploded at some point. I'm looking at the website trying to figure out how to resubscribe, but it isn't clear. It gives a list of generic mail server commands, but doesn't offer up the name of the list. Would someone kindly send me the command for resubscribing? Doug Wilkerson ..................................................................................................... IBM I/T Specialist, Digital Manufacturing Solutions Office: 205-972-7522 Mobile: 205-242-9076 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:43:57 -0400 From: cen13504 To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com, pc list , Francois Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change JPatton, I have a 1990 Candy Glory Red. I have always been fond of the white and black PC's. Where are you located? Give me a call and lets talk. I kind of like the idea of having the only white 1990 PC on the list. What do you think Francois? -- Kenneth Winter 1-800-264-6757 East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:56:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? To: cnorloff@toward.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cnorloff@toward.com writes: >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection and tax stickers >on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two stickers on, >preferably on the left side of the front wheel - the authorities >prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't work with the >PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I really don't want >to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like the best choice >might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens under the >reflector on the front fender. > >Any other ideas out there? > >thanks, >Chris Norloff >Falls Church, VA I don't have that problem on my '98. Lots of room on the forks for stickers of all kinds. Maybe it's time to upgrade to a newer model... (flame on) Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? To: PC800 Rider Cc: pclist Here is a simple bracket I fashoned out of half of an old MC license plate. I spray painted it to match the bike. The photo is taken looking up from the front fender to show how it is mounted under the headlight. It has served me well for 3 years. http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pix/permit2.jpg Hope this helps. John --- PC800 Rider wrote: > cnorloff@toward.com writes: > >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection > and tax stickers > >on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two > stickers on, > >preferably on the left side of the front wheel - > the authorities > >prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't > work with the > >PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I > really don't want > >to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like > the best choice > >might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens > under the > >reflector on the front fender. > > > >Any other ideas out there? > > > >thanks, > >Chris Norloff > >Falls Church, VA > > > I don't have that problem on my '98. Lots of room on > the forks for > stickers of all kinds. Maybe it's time to upgrade to > a newer > model... (flame on) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the > excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:01:06 -0400 From: cen13504 To: PC800 Rider , pc list Subject: PC800: tax stickers? snip( I don't have that problem on my '98. Lots of room on the forks for stickers of all kinds. Maybe it's time to upgrade to a newer model... (flame on) Tim, I can understand why you would want to cover that bare, unfinished, odd looking area on your bike. I guess if you can not have the correct covers you might as well cover it with stickers. I think I have a few extra bumper stickers that might match your pin striping. Ha Ha ;') Kenneth I am looking forward to your visit. I am laying our a mtn road ride as we speak. Bring Francois! -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: PC800: PC graphic for Business Card To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Does anyone know where there is a small graphic of a PC that would be good to put on a business card using Word template and color laser printer? Bob === Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:44:00 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: PC800 Rider , John La CC: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Thank! Very nice solution. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John La Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:34:14 -0700 (PDT) >Here is a simple bracket I fashoned out of half of an old MC license plate. I spray painted it to match the bike. The photo is taken looking up from the front fender to show how it is mounted under the headlight. It has served me well for 3 years. http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pix/permit2.jpg Hope this helps. John --- PC800 Rider wrote: > cnorloff@toward.com writes: > >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection > and tax stickers > >on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two > stickers on, > >preferably on the left side of the front wheel - > the authorities > >prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't > work with the > >PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I > really don't want > >to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like > the best choice > >might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens > under the > >reflector on the front fender. > > > >Any other ideas out there? > > > >thanks, > >Chris Norloff > >Falls Church, VA > > > I don't have that problem on my '98. Lots of room on > the forks for > stickers of all kinds. Maybe it's time to upgrade to > a newer > model... (flame on) > > Tim Davies > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the > excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.06) id A9781DA50136; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:20:56 +03d00 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Prince" To: "Bob Coffman" Cc: "pc800 list" Subject: RE: PC800: Poor Bob, was Riding with a "Hog" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:18:32 -0400 Importance: Normal Bob, You must be having problems with your ISP because I've sent you my address twice but still haven't seen the $8. Roger -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bob Coffman [mailto:bcoffman@uswest.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:07 PM To: Roger Prince Subject: Re: PC800: Riding with a "Hog" Hi Roger, I've lost your mailing address and if you provide it I'll send the cash to you. Thanks, Bob Roger Prince wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > I'm still waiting for my $8. > > Roger Prince > Subject: RE: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:53:18 -0500 From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Bob Coffman'" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bob, I hope you are enjoying the brochure for which you haven't paid me the $3 postage or reimbursed me for the $5 bounced check fee. Have a nice day. Roger Prince -----Original Message----- From: Bob Coffman [SMTP:bcoffman@uswest.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:11 To: Steve Wilson Cc: Mark Gilb; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things I have both driver and passenger Utopias, and love them. They were on the '89 when I bought it. Took a 6,000 ride and felt that the back support made 500 mile days, back to back, possible. Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Grant Subject: PC800: Ron Grant last from USA!! To: francis gallagher Cc: Steve Langford , Phil Lewis , PCUSA M/Cgroup , SERISIER MERI , Marc Nussey , Warren Post , Gerald Rodgers , duke seattle , Paul Shackleton , Eli Schneider Beverly Silverman , Vincent Sullivan , Bob Wilson , Patti Wilson , Clive Wilton , Hap Wood , Heather Ellis , Steve Ispas === Ron Grant ....somewhere on the road.... ...now in Sunny California!!..back to Oz Sept. 13 ultspnch@yahoo.com Stories...http://pages.intnet.mu/servas/rontour.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Grant Subject: PC800: Ron last from USA!! 2nd try! To: Dennis Doo Cc: Steve Langford , Phil Lewis , PCUSA M/Cgroup , SERISIER MERI , Marc Nussey , Warren Post , Gerald Rodgers , Paul Shackleton , Eli Schneider Beverly Silverman , Vincent Sullivan , Bob Wilson , Patti Wilson , Clive Wilton , Hap Wood , Heather Ellis , francis gallagher , Eric Haws , Steve Ispas , Lohan Johnson , Siggy Kruse Sept. 7/99 LEAVING...On a Jet Plane... Well....all good things must end, and hard to believe I am still greedy after 5 months, and want MORE vacation.....but I DO!! Steve and I just returned from a 8 day trip from LA down to Baja California, Mexico. Steve is the traveling engineer friend I stayed with in Santa Clara, and he arranged time off from work for the trip. As he said to me, he does not have many friends with whom he could make such a trip, they are either afraid of traveling in Mexico, “bandito fear”’ or they don’t have green cards and are afraid of NOT getting back into the USA. In any case, as we slipped back across the border last Sunday, the traffic was so heavy that when Steve hesitated at the Border guard’s question of what we were bringing back, she just said, “Go ahead, please!” After deliberation we decided to take Steve’s little Suzuki Samurai as transport, a good choice given the back roads we explored.The bikes would have been OK, except we would not have been able to do any off main route trips, and also there were a number of long stretches that would have been difficult to get gas, Steve’s bike only runs 180 km. or so. We found that many Pemex stations in Baja are closed. I was amazed at the lack of traffic, the excellent main transpeninsular route, and the general forelorness of the countryside through which we traveled. The towns, also are quite ramshackle, even a ‘major’ tourist one such as Bahia de Los Angeles. Compared to the ‘mainland’ Mexico routes I have been on, Baja seems like a ‘forgotten province.’Certainly the most prominent memory will be the overturned and derelict vehicles, almost comical in number! The other main thing we learned was that the Pacific coast, even as far south as parallel 28, is too cold on the ocean to swim! And the Sea of Cortez on the other side, the water is great but the weather too hot!! I suspect this area makes a better winter vacation spot. So now back in Los Angeles with less than a week to flytime, and not much planned other than last shopping and packing. The trip down from Calgary was great, a few dramas with the VF700 when the plastic plug that seals the lower radiator decided to shear off at the threads, just like the dipstick plug did in Los Angeles 3 months ago! By complete luck I saw the leaking coolant at the post office in a small Nevada town, and a local directed me to a fix-all motorcycleshop 2 blocks away! Of course no possibility of getting the Honda part, but as the owner said when he handed me a broken off spark plug with 2 o-rings on it.....he has been out in the desert many times, and KNOWS how to NOT get stranded!!So the next guy to change the oil on the bike will surely be suprised to see a spark plug in the radiator. One of my best days on the ride south was spent in company with Russ from the PC list, acting as a guide to the fabulous Hell’s Canyon area roads on the Idaho-Oregon border. I had been there 25 years previously with my Bultaco Metralla on a trip from Calgary. The roads into the canyon were as superb as I remembered , and Russ was the model of patience as I stopped at a number of corners to try and duplicate my bedroom wall photo of me racing at a leaned over angle between the river and rock wall. Only when I get back to Brisbane will I know if I was able to remember the correct corner after 25 years! As usual, I stayed with a number of wonderful SERVAS hosts, this time on the ‘interior’ route through Montana, Idaho, Nevada, and into California at Lake Tahoe. In fact the last part of the route was a late change, as I miss-read the map of southern Oregon, and when faced with a desolate 40 mile stretch of bumpy dirt road I ‘chickened out’ , and went south through hot Nevada. It was soon after that the radiator leak happened, so maybe the Gods of Fate saved me, again! The most interesting SERVAS host, and possibly a source for my next trip, was the Kun family of Moraga, near San Francisco. They are the ONLY people In the world to have sailed a Seawind 24 catamaran across the Pacific, a trip done in 1997. In search of ancient native navigators, they stopped in Samoa, Tokelau, Tuvalu and Kiribati. Headed for an island in Yap next, tragedy struck in Tarawa when their 7 year old son was hit by a bus. His injuries could not really be dealt with well by the Kiribati health system , so they returned to the USA, leaving the boat in Tarawa. For 2 years they have been trying to figure out what to do with it, no real sale market in Kiribati for such a vehicle. Now I am scheming to get my expert sailor friend Keith in Brisbane to take (another) furlough from his family and sail it back to Oz with me after the hurricane season is over! So...as I said, I am still greedy for vacation, but I suspect I will have to wrap this one up. After 9000 miles on my $1000 VF700F with no real dramas, I guess the wish I had while convalescing from Road Rash in Bulawayo has come true....an incident free 4 months in North America! === Ron Grant ....somewhere on the road.... ...now in Sunny California!!..back to Oz Sept. 13 ultspnch@yahoo.com Stories...http://pages.intnet.mu/servas/rontour.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A48C3F301D8; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:16:28 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:13:02 -0400 To: pclist From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Thanks for all the ideas for mounting the inspection & tax stickers (well, except the ideas from the '98 model owners :-) I like John La's idea the best, and will try this tonight. I've never had a problem with the mounting plate being "removable", but I know people who have had trouble. I'll rivet it on ... that should help. thanks, Chris Norloff At 11:34 AM 9/7/99 , John La wrote: >Here is a simple bracket I fashoned out of half of an >old MC license plate. I spray painted it to match the >bike. The photo is taken looking up from the front >fender to show how it is mounted under the headlight. >It has served me well for 3 years. > >http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pix/permit2.jpg > >Hope this helps. > >John > >--- PC800 Rider wrote: > > cnorloff@toward.com writes: > > >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection > > and tax stickers > > >on their PC's? Here in Virginia, I need to put two > > stickers on, > > >preferably on the left side of the front wheel - > > the authorities > > >prefer to put them on the fork legs, but that won't > > work with the > > >PC (well, and be visible at the same time). I > > really don't want > > >to put stickers on the bodywork, so it looks like > > the best choice > > >might be to fashion a mounting plate that fastens > > under the > > >reflector on the front fender. > > > > > >Any other ideas out there? > > > > > >thanks, > > >Chris Norloff > > >Falls Church, VA > > > > > > I don't have that problem on my '98. Lots of room on > > the forks for > > stickers of all kinds. Maybe it's time to upgrade to > > a newer > > model... (flame on) > > > > Tim Davies > > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > > '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" > > > > AMA #688662 > > HSTA #8387 > > HRCA #HM100878 > > > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the > > excuse!" > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > > pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to > > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EKXJ8AG3; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:10:44 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:38:56 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: Re: HTML Email From: Joyce D Calvert YOU GO GIRL!!! Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls" On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:08:22 -0400 Betty Lise Anderson writes: > >>Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't call him or Betty >>Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... >> >Anyone calls me or my buddy Arvid "clueless" and I will have to ask >them to >step outside. > >Betty Lise Anderson >'90 PC, 10,000 miles >Columbus, Ohio (home of flatland apes) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: PC graphic for Business Card Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:55:13 +0200 >Does anyone know where there is a small graphic of a PC that would be good to put on a business >card using Word template and color laser printer? Bob >Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-models.htm Emile http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: Re: HTML Email Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:31:01 +0200 >YOU GO GIRL!!! JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY !!!!!!!!!!!! [ Dutchman trying to integrate in American culture by throwing some US slang into discussion he picked up from t.v. ] Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" "If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much..." http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 >Joyce >Sonoma County, Ca >1996 "Red Rolls" On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:08:22 -0400 Betty Lise Anderson writes: > >>Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't call him or Betty >>Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... >> >Anyone calls me or my buddy Arvid "clueless" and I will have to ask >them to >step outside. > >Betty Lise Anderson >'90 PC, 10,000 miles >Columbus, Ohio (home of flatland apes) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:14:32 +0200 >JPatton, >I have a 1990 Candy Glory Red. I have always been fond of the white >and black PC's. Where are you located? >Kenneth Winter Wow, plastic swapping....what a bike... Wonder if this is the beginning of a new trend....what kind of combo's will we see next ? All black '94-'96 combo's, black/white '98's or a 10th anniversary PC version with the white front wheel cover of a '89, the candy red front fairing of a '90, black side fairings of the '94 and a plain red '98 trunk ? Imagine the possibilities.... Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (aubergine color) http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: , "Ron Kimball" Subject: Re: PC800: Decent picture and info on `89 PC Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:45:00 +0200 >I've been looking for decent detail photos of the PC and info >on the engine. Is this engine a fore-and-aft twin (like a harley) >or a left-and-right twin (like the Motoguzzi or old Honda cx650)? >Just wondering if this bike is an evolution of the old SilverWing >or what? >Take care, Ron Nobody really knows what kind of engine the PC has as it never needs any repairs. Some people think it's actually a nuclear engine, others think they sometimes hear the sound of hamsters beneath the plastic. Most of them think it's just a reciprocal engine, eventhough it's smooth character reminds more of a turbine. The following spy picture has been intercepted, sources indicate this could be what is driving the PC: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/pc8-eng.htm It is of a "twin sparked" (two spark plugs per cilinder), liquid cooled (fan equipped), 800cc OHC 45° V-twin with 3 valves per cylinder, hydraulic valve adjusters, hydraulic clutch, digital electronic ignition and shaft drive. It is positioned fore-aft, like on the Honda Transalp, Shadow, Africa Twin, Revere and Deauville. It produces about 53hp and 64 Nm DIN, that's 46hp and 55 Nm actual on the rear wheel as you can see here: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/mod-torque-hp.htm It's torque-curve (can't call it a curve really) shows a unique flatness, torque at every RPM. More technical info on the PC: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-mods.htm#usspecs For more pictures of PC's, check out my PC800 page and all the links at the bottom of that page: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/pc800.html A new link not on there yet: http://go.to/pc800 It's not an evolution of the Silverwing allthough it will probably adress the same kind of targetgroup of riders. It's an unique bike which was ahead of it's time and was unfortunately undermarketed by Honda. You don't see that many bikes which have so much value. Emile '92 ST1100 (yeah, I know...)ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Broeking Subject: PC800: Riding w/o side panels and vent ducts? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu taking my PC in for its 17K service tomorrow and ride 70 miles to original dealer so they do it while I wait. For the first time, I removed side panels and air ducts to save them time (and so they dont break the tabs,:-)) Anything I need to know about riding w/o these. Will the heat melt my legs etc; or have others done it?., Should be sunny, 80 degree day here tomorrow. Bob === Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield update Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 01:09:21 +0200 >From: Bruce Haag >Hi gang. When I joined the list several months ago, you may remember I >plagued you all with questions [........] Can't forget a name like Haag.... ("..., such that when Dutch people pronounce the letter ``g,'' which appears three or four times in the average Dutch word, they sound like they are hawking up a loogie the size of a cocker spaniel.") >I think that this brand and type of ear plug may have made the biggest >difference of all though. They have the typical "bullet" shape with a soft >exterior that I have found to be the most comfortable for hours a day >I am also stocking them in my music studio at 50 cents a pair, I'm fascinated that you find hearing protection so important, yet wear simple 50 cent plugs. I agree with you that many people are underestimating the permanent damage that windnoise can do to your hearing in a matter of minutes. It's not a comfort issue, it's a health issue (career issue in my case) and even more a safety issue. I've worn custom-made earplugs (ca.$100) since I started riding at 18 (so that's 7 years now). They have special filters which are also used by pilots. They filter out the windbuffet noise but let thru the rest of the sounds like sirens and horns or voices (at the gas pump..). They are made to fit only my ears, so there's no pressure on the very sensitive ear canal and they are flush with my ears, so my helmet doesn't press against it. This way I can wear them all day, every day, without feeling them and have done so with this one pair of plugs for about 6 years (10- 15K miles per year). Not wearing earplugs not only damages your hearing, it also is much more tiresome to ride without, taking valuable concentration away after a long ride. Permanent damage can occur after 4 minutes of riding at 75mph on a bike similar to a PC (BMW K75RT). >most folks don't recognize this problem until it's >way too late. Ringing and hyper-sensitivety are a REAL drag. Sorry to run >long on this, but it's been a major issue in my life for several years now >and maybe my experience can save someone else some grief. Thanks Bruce. Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:17:13 -0500 To: "Will Edwards" , From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" Will: The paint is stock. It is the Candy Glory Red / Silver combo. The bike is bone stock (no radio, no backrest, no front mudflap, no bra, no trunk liners) for the exception of a Clearview +5, and a little bit of "tape" pinstripe that I put on myself. I go out and win trophies with that paint, and then there is someone on this list that wants to paint his '90 something different. *SIGH*. 'Bout makes me want to cry. (Just teasing you Kenneth!!!) :-) Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles 2 shows = 2 First Place Trophies. At 05:47 AM 09/07/1999 -0700, Will Edwards wrote: >I think you more than got even. I bet "green" was the color of the >competition. Congratulations on the win. Yes, you better get pictures >posted to Emile, or we will just have to drive over with our own >camera. I assume your PC is not entirely stock paint wise is it? > >Will >Washington State >96 Honda PC800 >Focus your eyes to where you want to be, >Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... >. >. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mr. PC800 (R. Fenwick) >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:23 PM >Subject: PC800: "Don't get mad, get even?" > > >>I just got back from another car/motorcycle show down south. Took my >>Cougar, the trailer, and the PC strapped down "7 ways" on the >trailer. On >>one leg of the trip, I traveled 68 miles in 70 minutes. Yeah, that >only >>averages out to a little under 60 mph right? Well, that average also >has >>going through 5 towns with 35mph speed limits factored into it..... >> >>Arrived at the show site, registered the car and the PC, unloaded the >PC off >>of the trailer, wiped them both down, got all set up, wiped and >cleaned >>more, talked to probably no fewer than 30 people about the PC, wiped >and >>cleaned even more, and then finally (3 hours after registering) was >judged. >> >>After judging, there wasn't anything else to do, so I took off to >"evaluate" >>my competition. Well, the Cougar had to go up against numerous >Corvettes >>and Mustangs (like always), a Grand Prix, a Cutlass, and a few others >that >>escape me now. The competition that the PC went up against was "bad" >news. >>For starters, 4 Harleys. Uh oh. I'm not totally sure what the rest >of the >>competition was, when I saw the 4 Harleys, I flat out stopped >looking. I >>saw from a distance what I think was a 450 Rebel all decked out, a >Japanese >>"Harley wanna-be", a Voyager 12, and some sort of a "home-made" >trike. I >>just saw these in passing. I could have easily missed more. >> >>When the awards were handed out, I was pleasantly surprised to finish >3rd >>(with the Cougar) to two Corvettes (I love it when they have SEPARATE >>Corvette classes). A few classes later, they began to announce the >>motorcycle class standings. Third place, Harley. Oh well, I gave >it my >>best shot. Second place, Harley. *SIGH* First place, Rich >Fenwick with >>his 1990 Honda Pacific Coast. I was stunned (note to self... pick >bottom >>jaw up off of the ground). I had just beaten 4 very nice Harleys >(and >>others) in competition. I'm sure there were a few comments from the >Harley >>owners about the "rice burner" getting awarded First Place. >> >>To be totally honest, I was "watching my back" until I had the PC >loaded >>back up on the trailer and was on my way out of town... I LOVE it >though. >>The judges had NEVER seen a Pacific Coast before. I am starting to >refer to >>the PC as the bike that Honda made that no one knows about. >> >>I took some pictures of the PC strapped down on the trailer, and hope >to get >>them developed, scanned, and the files mailed off to Emile, so >everyone can >>see how it is done with less than $30 in straps from Wal-Mart. (and >no >>Handlebar harness is necessary). I just do it the way Honda says >to.... >> >>Also, I met a PC owner from Fairfield, IL with a 1997 (with the >"naked" >>front wheel). He only had 4,400 miles on it. I have put that many >on my >>1990 since buying it less than 4 months ago (and some of you put that >many >>miles on in 2 weeks). No offense to anyone out there, but that is >one color >>combination that I just can't get used to, and the naked front wheel >too. I >>know, to each his own, and so on. Sorry. Just my opinion, FWIW. >Opinions >>are like asshol..... never mind..... >> >>Over 24 hours later, and I'm still gloating..... :-) >> >>Rich Fenwick >>1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles (with 2 First Place trophies) >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "William H. Ong" To: Subject: PC800: RE: "Don't get mad, get even?" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:21:52 -0500 Congratulations Rich, is your bike stock or customized? " Bill Ong " -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:52:07 PDT Chris asked the following: >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection and tax stickers on their >PC's? Chris and the PC gang, You guys are going to think I own stock in this company but I really don't. Chris, get yourself some N-Style motocross number backing. Got mine from Dennis Kirk but any good motocross shop should have it. You might want the clear but look at the other colors. Cut a 4 inch by 4 inch piece, clean the plastic of the left front disk cover and apply. Ask the inspection dude to apply the sticker in the middle of the backing square. Each year, if you don't want them applied one on top of another, you can peel off the backing square and make another. This stuff is great protection for the PC's paint in area's that will take a lot of contact. I stuck a piece of clear on the front on my pickup hood, right in the path of oncoming bugs and stuff, washed it full blast at the car wash and it still stuck. For 6 months !! I peeled it off and other than a small bit of goop around the edge there was no paint damage. I then cut a 2 inch square of the black and the clear and stuck them to the gas cap access door, left them for 6 months and peeled them off, gently, same deal as the pickup, no paint damage. Squirt of WD 40 and the goop cleaned right off. Applied some to the side of the air cleaner housing to protect from knee scuffs and it really blends in. Great stuff !! Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:02:01 PDT Selden wrote: >Progressive sells what sounds like essentially the same kit. Gang, I have the Progressive repair kit but have never had the opportunity to use it, thank you God !! A word of caution, change out your CO2 cartridges yearly to insure you have fresh ones and three ain't going to be nearly enough !! I buy the ones made for CO2 pellet guns, Daisy brand I believe, and carry a full dozen. Cheap insurance and don't take up much space in the tool kit. Speaking of tool kits, there is a special place in motohell for owners who keep the tool kit when they trade in the bike. I found metric wrenches on sale at Sears and bought a set of open and box end, a set of metric hex keys and a small set of metric sockets and driver. Took a small padded camera case, also on sale, and that's my tool kit. It being padded makes for a quieter ride without the tools jangling around and I have plenty of room for more tools as they go on sale. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Bruce Haag" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield update of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:10:56 PDT." Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:03:05 -0500 "Bruce Haag" writes: > I think that this brand and type of ear plug may have made the biggest > difference of all though. They have the typical "bullet" shape with a soft > exterior that I have found to be the most comfortable for hours a day. They > are not nearly as soft and squishy as most the other brands, but have more > density, which I'm sure is responsible for their better attenuation. They > are rated at 31 decibles, but seem to out-perform the others with the same > rating. I've tried a BUNCH of different kinds. If you're interested in > trying them I believe Wal-Mart sells them or you can get them direct (in > large quantites) from North Safety Products at 714-524-1655. The red-electric-orange things? About $1.70 for 5 pair? That's what I like too. Have been using them the past year. Am getting better at inserting them in my ears, but still not graceful or consistant. I roll them as thin as I can get them, then attempt to insert. If I don't hit the ear canal just right they don't go in. Have found it possible/likely to get a crease in them when compressing them. If there is a crease then the noise reduction isn't as great. Tonight I was surprised and pleased to get both in just right. Often both produce less of a seal than their best, but in my case the lesser seal is "good enough." Usually they don't finish expanding and forming to my ears before I'm dressed and on the road. Have found this brand washes well in the clothes washer. That is "if you don't lose them in the wash." Leave them in a pocket. They come out almost as good as new. Have never worn out a pair, tend to lose them first. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:20:13 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Desmond Cockburn wrote: > Speaking of tool kits, there is a special place in motohell for owners who > keep the tool kit when they trade in the bike. And the Owner's Manual. $22.00 for a V-Max manual! *(&^%$! -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:58:44 -0400 Subject: PC800: Vermont Trip a Joy To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I arrived back home on Monday evening (Labor Day) from my 4 day jaunt to Vermont. I'd highly recommend a trip around the state of Vermont to anyone looking for great motorcycle roads that you don't have to search for on a map. Every road I took was a great one for my taste in motorcycling, plus great scenery. The roads through the mountains were fantastic! I rode up through Lake George in New York State and took the Essex ferry across Lake Champlain, rode up toward Burlington, east to Montpelier, south to Rutland, then home. In between all these cities I just wandered the back roads checking out points of interest. The home of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream was a delicious stop and the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory was a nice break from the humid weather. 938 miles total from Friday afternoon to Monday evening. The most unusual road I found goes through Smugglers Notch (Route 108), elevation 2,162 feet above sea level. The Yankee Smuggler and I just had to take this one as soon as I saw it. I have some photos I'll post when I get them developed. This road is closed in the winter and there are portions that narrow to one lane so you can creep around a huge bolder in the middle of the road. At one point I came bumper to front wheel with a mini van because the mini van in front of me came to almost a complete stop trying to round a corner. Fortunately he cut the corner so he blocked the oncoming mini van which had to stop. Lucky for me;-) I did learn one valuable lesson about riding in Vermont... only take roads with route numbers on them! In most cases if the road doesn't have a number, it doesn't have pavement either. I had one mountain road lure me onto it with great pavement for the first mile then hard packed dirt with washboard ruts for the next 15 miles or so. Not so bad going up (compared to the descent), but hell coming down. Speed limits in Vermont are mostly 50 mph (not a typo) or less, down to 25 mph in the towns. I have it figured that the speed limits are lower to make the natives think their state is bigger than it really is, so when talking to people from other states, and comparing driving times, they won't be embarrassed:-) On Sunday and Monday the state was full of other motorcyclists dong exactly what I was doing, but I did not see another Pacific Coast for the whole trip. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:17:49 -0400 From: Bill McKenna ...... ....... Augusta Rotary Club http://www.augustarotary.org To: bmckenna@mint.net Subject: PC800: Ann Arbor RFK (R) Allen Hughes Ride for Kids? Ann Arbor collects in excess of $91,000 What a beautiful sight it was as the motorcycles kept coming and coming around the bend of the road. On this beautiful Sunday morning, more than 400 motorcycles and 650 participants descended on Domino’s Farms in Ann Arbor Michigan. The last two years has found the morning of the Ann Arbor Ride for Kids? event at least partly rainy. This year the weather was absolutely glorious with clear blue skies, a light breeze and temperatures in the low 70s, a perfect day for motorcyclists. The motorcyclists were first treated to their best ride ever as they toured the countryside of Ann Arbor. This year there were 10 law officers on motorcycles as well as numerous squad cars to lead the way and assure a safe and fun ride. The best part of the day was under the tent. It all started with Nancy Stanton bravely sharing with the participants how special the Ride for Kids? was to her son Paul, who died December 28, 1999 from complications of his reoccurring brain tumor. Paul was the first ever Ride for Kids? poster child to obtain his motorcycle license and participate on his own motorcycle in the ride. Mother Mary Magnum shared the joy of having 6 year old LeAnn off of chemo since April for the first time in 4 ½ years. And then there were the kids. All five of them were grabbing hold of those rider’s hearts. When 14 year old TJ Cline was asked about his interest in girls, he promptly changed the subject and showed off his new shoes. And then Ruth Barkin, now a senior in high school stole the mike and shared her wit and charm in a way that only she could get away with. The race for top fund raiser was extremely tight. Congratulations to Robert and Dianne Tebedo who raised $3,720. This was after Robert had had open heart surgery just two months ago. Bob and Carol Marquis who raised $3,600 brought tears to the eyes of all as they described how last year they had raised funds by asking that instead of wedding presents, that funds be given to the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the US. They were followed closely by Lew and Linda Randall with $3,556 and David Reed with $3,360. The number five fund raiser was Don Shields with $2,950. The Cycle Conservation Club was the top club, bringing $11,077.50 to the event. The number two organization was the General Motors Powertrain Riders for Kids with their donations of $9,431. The Michigan GWRRA members were out in force, representing positions three, four and five were Michigan GWRRA chapters G2 - $7,979.30, V - $7,171, and H2 - $4,445. In addition 14 other Michigan GWRRA chapters participated as well as the Michigan State Staff which provided a sponsorship of $1,000 to help cover the event expenses. GWRRA members in Michigan raised more than $34,305 to help find the cause and cure of childhood brain tumors. Congratulations to Central Michigan Motorsports of Mount Pleasant, Michigan; the top dealer, with its riders bringing $8,974. C&C Cycles of Brighton was number two with $6,921, followed closely by Bay Cycles of Bay City with $6,651. At the end of the day some 650 participants on more than 400 motorcycles celebrated as the check showing funds raised was unfurled with an amount of $91,885. This represents an increase of more than $10,000 over 1998. Congratulations to Task Force Leaders Bill and Kathy Chapin, and Bob and Sue Lorenz for a fantastic flawless event. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA Say "YES" to Life!! Visit the New England Ride for Kids(R) Page @ http://go.to/nerfk ~ 1998 NERFK: A Great Beginning ~ 1999 NERFK: An Astounding Success! Thank You!! ~ ~ Join us August 20, 2000, your Mother would like that ;) ~ ~ 1000 bikes in 2000 ~ ~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD3F932D0124; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:43:11 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:45:26 -0400 I cannot figure out where it is coming from. It just looked like the = oil was oozing from around that hose that joins the engine (in front of = the side kickstand and oil filter). That hose carries coolant (duh!). I took the entire plastic off of that side and just see some oily = residue. Residue also building up on the clear and black hoses that = hang down at the side kickstand. It really never has dripped onto the = floor. 3 drips on the floor is all it has ever done. It is just = bothering me... no matter how small it is... esp. since it just has 8k = miles on it. If any repairs are necessary it should be covered under = warranty... but remember that guy told me it only had a yr. warranty. = Guess I'll have to show him proof. I am going next week to have new tires put on. I will mention it to the = guy then. I was at a independant (NO HONDA) service shop today to get = an inspection sticker and he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can = of that "quit-leak" stuff. I told him that I really did not want to do = that to that new of a bike. He says there is nothing wrong with using = that stuff. Says it doesn't matter if it is a car, motorcycel, or = anything else... as long as it is a gasoline engine. I am still = hesitant until I get more advice (from Honda dealer and you guys.) Any suggestions. Like I said... it is pretty minor... not affecting oil = level that I can tell and it is not dripping. I just know it should not = be leaking at all. Thanks in advance. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous and he=20 told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can of that "quit-leak" = stuff.  I=20 told him that I really did not want to do that to that new of a = bike.  He=20 says there is nothing wrong with using that stuff.  Says it doesn't = matter=20 if it is a car, motorcycel, or anything else... as long as it is a = gasoline=20 engine.  I am still hesitant until I get more advice (from Honda = dealer and=20 you guys.)

     
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee Barker" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:18:00 -0700 Has anyone taken a black one and added some white contact paper in random blotches?........and called it "Got Milk!!"? Lee Barker 94regon -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 3:28 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change >>JPatton, >>I have a 1990 Candy Glory Red. I have always been fond of the white >>and black PC's. Where are you located? >>Kenneth Winter > >Wow, plastic swapping....what a bike... >Wonder if this is the beginning of a new trend....what kind of combo's >will we see next ? All black '94-'96 combo's, black/white '98's or >a 10th anniversary PC version with the white front wheel cover of a '89, >the candy red front fairing of a '90, black side fairings of the '94 and a >plain red '98 trunk ? Imagine the possibilities.... > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (aubergine color) >http://fly.to/emile >http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 01:37:25 -0500 From: Jeffrey King To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change I guess that would give you a "moo-torcycle", eh? LOL!! Jeff King '94 PC800 "The Batcycle" 25K miles of smiles http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919/pc800.htm Lee Barker wrote: > > Has anyone taken a black one and added some white contact paper in random > blotches?........and called it "Got Milk!!"? > > Lee Barker > 94regon > -- ==================================================================== Jeffrey W. King (K5ING) Krum, TX. USA 940.482.3446 (home) 972.597.1021 (pager) ==================================================================== http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1919 ==================================================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Stop & Go Tire Pluggers Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:41:45 +0200 >A word of caution, change out your CO2 cartridges yearly to insure you have >fresh ones and three ain't going to be nearly enough !! Three is good enough to get to a service station to get more air. It's meant as an emergency solution and works fine like that. Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: mlinkous@inetone.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:18:04 PDT Michael wrote: >I cannot figure out where it is coming from. >3 drips on the floor is all >it has ever done. snip, snip >I was at a independant (NO HONDA) service shop today to get an inspection >sticker and he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can of that >"quit-leak" stuff. Mike, I'm with you, I wouldn't use anything in a PC not specifically recommended by Honda and that includes this stuff !! Go with Plan A and ask the dealer to look at the leak. IMHO, I would never darken the door of this independent shop again if they were the only shop in the country. It's hard enough to find a Honda dealer that knows much about the Coaster much less an independent shop that has ever seen one much less has a Coaster shop manual available. Now, before a fire storm falls upon me, I'm sure there are independent moto shops out there that know what they are doing when it comes the PC but any shop that would recommend this sealer needs to stick to working on lawn mowers! Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stop &amp; Go Tire Pluggers Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:28:10 PDT Emile replied: >Three is good enough to get to a service station to get more air. It's >meant >as an emergency solution and works fine like that. Emile, Yes sir, three would probably be enough, unless you have lost rim seal and need to reseat the tire rim or if the plug you just installed pops out and it's another 20 miles to the next air supply ! I'll pack a few extra cylinders here and there and hope I never need them. I've always been a "what if" kinda rider. Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:42:22 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: , "Desmond Cockburn" Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Excellent idea! I was leaning against fabricating a plate to put the stickers on due to looks and hassle. 3M makes a clear product called 3M Scotchcal Paint Protection Film that looks like it'd do the job, but I can't find it locally yet. I bet I can find motocross number backing! thanks, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:52:07 PDT > Chris asked the following: >Hi, what have folks done abot mounting inspection and tax stickers on their >PC's? Chris and the PC gang, You guys are going to think I own stock in this company but I really don't. Chris, get yourself some N-Style motocross number backing. Got mine from Dennis Kirk but any good motocross shop should have it. You might want the clear but look at the other colors. Cut a 4 inch by 4 inch piece, clean the plastic of the left front disk cover and apply. Ask the inspection dude to apply the sticker in the middle of the backing square. Each year, if you don't want them applied one on top of another, you can peel off the backing square and make another. This stuff is great protection for the PC's paint in area's that will take a lot of contact. I stuck a piece of clear on the front on my pickup hood, right in the path of oncoming bugs and stuff, washed it full blast at the car wash and it still stuck. For 6 months !! I peeled it off and other than a small bit of goop around the edge there was no paint damage. I then cut a 2 inch square of the black and the clear and stuck them to the gas cap access door, left them for 6 months and peeled them off, gently, same deal as the pickup, no paint damage. Squirt of WD 40 and the goop cleaned right off. Applied some to the side of the air cleaner housing to protect from knee scuffs and it really blends in. Great stuff !! Des,PCOG #53 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , "PC800 Rider" Subject: Re: PC800: Vermont Trip a Joy Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:14:53 -0700 Nice trip report, makes me want to take a tour there someday. By the way, there was another PC but you must have missed it. As I was riding across the Cascade mountains here in Washington about midnight I had looked back east and thought I saw another PC on Smugglers Notch, it must have been the Yankee Smuggler. I waived, but I guess you didn't see me. :-) > >The most unusual road I found goes through Smugglers Notch (Route >108), elevation 2,162 feet above sea level. The Yankee Smuggler and >I just had to take this one as soon as I saw it. I have some photos Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Michael D. Linkous" , "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:22:15 -0700 I am not a mechanic, but I believe most engines have a oil breather of = some kind, usually leads to the air box. There may be some type of PC = Valve that is plugged, causing the oil film to build up and eventually = drip. I would not use any stop leak stuff. If you still have the covers = off, take a look inside the air box to see if that is the case. Some of = the Royal Stars had this problem, it did not hurt anything. Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:36:18 -0500 To: "Michael D. Linkous" , "Pacific Coast" From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Any place that recommends that someone actually use that "sludge" has got to be joking! But, do you suppose that stuff might work on Harleys that leak oil? Now, it WOULD be worth trying there. I'll bet that guy suggests that Harley users use that stuff so often, that he just mentioned it automatically, and didn't realize he was speaking to a HONDA owner... Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles At 10:45 PM 09/07/1999 -0400, Michael D. Linkous wrote: > > I cannot figure out where it is coming from. It just looked like the oil was > oozing from around that hose that joins the engine (in front of the side > kickstand and oil filter). That hose carries coolant (duh!). > > I took the entire plastic off of that side and just see some oily residue. > Residue also building up on the clear and black hoses that hang down at the > side kickstand. It really never has dripped onto the floor. 3 drips on the > floor is all it has ever done. It is just bothering me... no matter how > small it is... esp. since it just has 8k miles on it. If any repairs are > necessary it should be covered under warranty... but remember that guy told > me it only had a yr. warranty. Guess I'll have to show him proof. > > I am going next week to have new tires put on. I will mention it to the guy > then. I was at a independant (NO HONDA) service shop today to get an > inspection sticker and he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can of that > "quit-leak" stuff. I told him that I really did not want to do that to that > new of a bike. He says there is nothing wrong with using that stuff. Says > it doesn't matter if it is a car, motorcycel, or anything else... as long as > it is a gasoline engine. I am still hesitant until I get more advice (from > Honda dealer and you guys.) > > Any suggestions. Like I said... it is pretty minor... not affecting oil > level that I can tell and it is not dripping. I just know it should not be > leaking at all. > > Thanks in advance. > > ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > Michael D. Linkous > Bluefield, WV > http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous > > "sludge" has got to be joking!

    But, do you suppose that stuff might work on Harleys that leak oil?  Now, it WOULD be worth trying there.  I'll bet that guy suggests that Harley users use that stuff so often, that he just mentioned it automatically, and didn't realize he was speaking to a HONDA owner...

    Rich Fenwick
    1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles


    At 10:45 PM 09/07/1999 -0400, Michael D. Linkous wrote:
    I cannot figure out where it is coming from.  It just looked like the oil was oozing from around that hose that joins the engine (in front of the side kickstand and oil filter).  That hose carries coolant (duh!).
     
    I took the entire plastic off of that side and just see some oily residue.  Residue also building up on the clear and black hoses that hang down at the side kickstand. It really never has dripped onto the floor.  3 drips on the floor is all it has ever done.  It is just bothering me... no matter how small it is... esp. since it just has 8k miles on it.  If any repairs are necessary it should be covered under warranty... but remember that guy told me it only had a yr. warranty.  Guess I'll have to show him proof.
     
    I am going next week to have new tires put on.  I will mention it to the guy then.  I was at a independant (NO HONDA) service shop today to get an inspection sticker and he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can of that "quit-leak" stuff.  I told him that I really did not want to do that to that new of a bike.  He says there is nothing wrong with using that stuff.  Says it doesn't matter if it is a car, motorcycel, or anything else... as long as it is a gasoline engine.  I am still hesitant until I get more advice (from Honda dealer and you guys.)
     
    Any suggestions.  Like I said... it is pretty minor... not affecting oil level that I can tell and it is not dripping.  I just know it should not be leaking at all.
     
    Thanks in advance.
     
    -----     -----     -----     -----     -----     -----
    Michael D. Linkous
    Bluefield, WV
    http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous
     
     

    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:42:45 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Shop manual with the bike Desmond wrote: It's hard enough to find a Honda dealer that knows much about the Coaster much less an independent shop that has ever seen one much less has a Coaster shop manual available. ****** This is EXACTLY why I took Leland's advice and acquired a PC shop manual, so when the bike goes in for repair, the manual will go with it. I will make it very clear that the manual is in the trunk, and that they are free to use it if need be, and that's why it is there. I have it in a maroon 3 ring binder, so it will not get mixed up with the shop's manuals. BTW, the manual will go with the PC to both the independent shop AND to the Honda shop. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:24:40 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:12:57 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak To: "R. Fenwick" Cc: "Michael D. Linkous" , Pacific Coast Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail There are some earlier posts by Chuck Chiodini, which, if I remember correctly, tell of blow-by oil collecting below the antibackfire screen under the air cleaner. The oil, if not cleaned out, eventually moves down the side of the cylinder. This might be the source of the drip, although with a low mileage bike it would be suprising if enough has already collected to drip. Unless, of course, there is a blowby problem. --david -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: "Emile Nossin" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:14:41 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change >>the candy red front fairing of a '90, black side fairings of the '94 and a >>plain red '98 trunk ? Imagine the possibilities.... Smile when you say "plain" red. Doug Wilkerson '98 "Plain Red" PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:19:04 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re:Tire Pluggers Desmond Cockburn wrote: > Yes sir, three would probably be enough, unless you have lost rim seal and > need to reseat the tire rim or if the plug you just installed pops out and > it's another 20 miles to the next air supply ! I'll pack a few extra > cylinders here and there and hope I never need them. I've always been a > "what if" kinda rider. Desmond, I can tell you at least one "what-if". If you lose the rim seal the bead has probably popped out of the rim, and only a shop compressor has enough volume and pressure to pop it back in. Not even a trunkfull of cylinders will help on that one. That being said, I agree that you should carry more than three cylinders, especially if the next gas station is still 80-90 miles away. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by land.willinet.net with SMTP; 8 Sep 1999 11:29:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:30:40 -0500 From: Ryan To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Tire Pluggers > That being said, I agree that you should carry more > than three cylinders especially if the next gas > station is still 80-90 miles away. In the space of 3 cylnders, I'll bet you could carry one of those $10-walmart-fist-sized compressors. Probably be cheaper, too. Ryan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: trunk wear through on '89 To: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com Cc: pclist , scpcrc List Listers- please reply to: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com (he's not on the list yet) --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > hello, > I am in process of purchasing a 89' > pc800(8,300mi.) There is a small hole > in the trunk liner from the tire rubbing. #1) Is > this a recall and how do I > go about it to fix it. #2) since you have a 89' > pc800, I was wondering if > you were happy with your's & any input or > suggestions would > begreat.........Thanks!..................TODD > > > (askardlife@aol.com) > Hi Todd- Trunk wear-through is a problem with some '89's. Honda took care of the problem when the bike was under warranty, but I doubt they will pay now. As far as I know, there was never a recall. My recollection is a different tire type or size helped, but I'm not sure if there was more to it. The '89 has another potential problem. The stator (part of the charging system) tends to wear out before 30k. Mine broke before 10k. It costs between $400 and $600 (including labor) depending on where you go. I don't want to discourage you from the bike. I love my '89. I've had about 10 bikes in 15 years and I've never liked any bike more or kept one longer than the PC. I bought mine 5 years ago (3,200 miles) for $6000 and I have no regrets. Other than the stator, I've never spent a dime on repairs. Mantenance is very cheap. There are no valve adjustments, so you just do a tune up every year or two, and change the oil and tires when necessary. Depending on the price, you might be making a great deal. Just don't count on Honda helping to fix it. An excellent condition '89 with low miles should be (IMHO) no more than $3800. I'd deduct $400-500 if the stator hasn't been replaced. I'm not sure what to deduct for the trunk wear-through. There is a e-mail list with 200 PC owners who might have more knowledge on the trunk wear-through issue. I suggest you join! It's free and a very valuable resource. You can also search the archives for past messages by subject. For information on the mailserve and archives see the FAQ: http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm There is also a maintanence database where you can check to see who has done what to their bike. I'll copy your letter to the list, so you can get little more input. Hope this helps. John === PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: ISO PC in Switzerland To: Franco Chelini Cc: pclist Listers- respond to: franco.chelini@aid.zh.ch (he's not on the list yet) --- Franco Chelini wrote: > Hello John, > I've never seen such a nice bike here in > Switzerland.Of course I must > say that there's no way to buy a PC 800 on the swiss > market. Now as I'm > thinking of importing a PC 800 somehow, I heard that > it's out of > production. Is this right ? Do you know why ? > Best regards > Franky Franky- Yes the PC is out of production. I guess Honda wasn't selling enough of them. There is a mailserve list with many international members. Why don't you join and ask if there are any near you. You may be suprised. I'll send a copy of your message to the list so you may get a few more responses. Look here for more info about joining the e-mail list: http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm Good luck! John === PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:03:34 -0300 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Tire Pluggers Ummm people, really. What-if someone puts a carving fork (both tines) through your sidewall and steals your trunk and handcuffs you to a tree and takes your spouse out for champagne and cheesecake? TWENTY CO2 containers, a compressor and a mechanic in your trunk won't be enough for that! It's reality check time, people. The point of carrying the BMW Emergency Tubeless Repair Kit or equivalent, is to change a *relatively* frequent failure, that is, a simple puncture in the bottom of your tire, from a huge annoying hassle wreckage to a trip, to a few-minute delay. It won't stop a beaver from running in front of you on the road, or the tax department from reposessing your house, or your engine from melting if you forget to put oil back in after draining it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:33:54 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Daniel MacKay'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Re:Tire Pluggers Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:26:21 -0700 But it will make you feel better when Santa doesn't bring you any presents because you were a bad boy. You'll have all those little CO2 cylinders to play with! ;-) Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 9/8/99 10:04 AM, Daniel MacKay [SMTP:Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca] wrote: > > Ummm people, really. > > What-if someone puts a carving fork (both tines) through your sidewall and > steals your trunk and handcuffs you to a tree and takes your spouse out for > champagne and cheesecake? TWENTY CO2 containers, a compressor and a > mechanic in your trunk won't be enough for that! > > It's reality check time, people. The point of carrying the BMW Emergency > Tubeless Repair Kit or equivalent, is to change a *relatively* frequent > failure, that is, a simple puncture in the bottom of your tire, from a huge > annoying hassle wreckage to a trip, to a few-minute delay. > > It won't stop a beaver from running in front of you on the road, or the tax > department from reposessing your house, or your engine from melting if you > forget to put oil back in after draining it. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:44:25 -0400 From: Stan Amero To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: carb sync Dear Listers, Here's where I divulge just how dumb I am. Day before yesterday I decided it was a god time to install a new air filter in my 97. While I had the plastic off I figured why not check the sync on the carburetors. I got out the service manual I purchased and looked up the section on the procedure and was totally confused by the instructions on attaching the carb stick and especially about how the illustration in the book does not look a whole lot like the plumbing on the actual carburetors on my PC. I'm sure many of you have synchronized your carburetors. Can anyone shed some light on this? Than you Stan '97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:25:48 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: Subject: PC800: AMA Billboard Fund - Terry Barnard Memorial Highway Just a short reminder, and a request for donations, to the AMA Billboard Fund. The AMA has put up two billboards in Tennessee dedicating a highway to motorcyclist Terry Barnard, since the highway is currently dedicated to his killer -- the late Tennessee Senator Carl Koella. www.ama-cycle.org thank you, Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:07:22 EDT Subject: PC800: Plugging a Tire To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu While traveling in Southern Illinois a few years ago I had a flat on the interstate. I plugged my rear tire from a kit purchased from a 7/11 type store. I rode that tire another 7K, including 2.5k carrying double. I am wondering how may Coasters have plugged tires, and if there has been any failures? Bernie 94 PC 55K Overland Park, Ks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:18:41 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:18:33 -0400 I haven't opened the package yet, but the number backing that I just picked up today does say 3M on it . . . At first all they could find was a fender kit, precut pieces for top and sides of a motocross rear fender. Then the guy found the good stuff down on the bottom of the pile. Looks like three or four legal or ledger size sheets of stuff, $12 or $15 I think. Thank goodness, after less than a month of ownership, I've gotten really tired of cleaning black scuff marks off the white paint. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What' winterizing?") ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chris Norloff To: ; Desmond Cockburn Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:42 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? > Excellent idea! I was leaning against fabricating a plate to put the stickers on due to looks and hassle. 3M makes a clear product called 3M Scotchcal Paint Protection Film that looks like it'd do the job, but I can't find it locally yet. > > I bet I can find motocross number backing! > > thanks, > Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EKZ5DXNZ; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:06:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:46:59 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: Re: HTML Email From: Joyce D Calvert Hey, I made that up!! Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls" >>YOU GO GIRL!!! > >JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY !!!!!!!!!!!! > >[ Dutchman trying to integrate in American culture by > throwing some US slang into discussion he picked up > from t.v. ] > >Emile >'92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" >"If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much..." >http://fly.to/emile >http://go.to/pc800 > >>Joyce >>Sonoma County, Ca >>1996 "Red Rolls" > >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:08:22 -0400 Betty Lise Anderson > writes: >> >>>Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't >call >him or Betty >>>Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... >>> >>Anyone calls me or my buddy Arvid "clueless" and I will have to ask >>them to >>step outside. >> >>Betty Lise Anderson >>'90 PC, 10,000 miles >>Columbus, Ohio (home of flatland apes) >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > >>a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Riding w/o side panels and vent ducts? Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:13:40 +0100 I have ridden my PC with most of the panels and the windscreen removed at various speeds. No problems except some funny looks and flies on the visor! Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) ---------- > From: Bob Broeking > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Riding w/o side panels and vent ducts? > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 12:02 AM > > taking my PC in for its 17K service tomorrow and ride 70 miles to original dealer so they do it > while I wait. For the first time, I removed side panels and air ducts to save them time (and so > they dont break the tabs,:-)) > > Anything I need to know about riding w/o these. Will the heat melt my legs etc; or have others > done it?., Should be sunny, 80 degree day here tomorrow. Bob > === > Bob Broeking http://whitespider.aawsom.net > 98 Honda PC...IBA, PCOG #95, STOC #1007 > bob_broeking@yahoo.com Wash DC > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Decent picture and info on `89 PC Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:02:21 +0100 It is a Rotary Wankel Engine, actually! Developed and perfected by friendly Aliens. That is why it is hidden away out of sight under the tupperware and the cowling. Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Ron Kimball > Subject: Re: PC800: Decent picture and info on `89 PC > Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 11:45 PM > > >I've been looking for decent detail photos of the PC and info > >on the engine. Is this engine a fore-and-aft twin (like a harley) > >or a left-and-right twin (like the Motoguzzi or old Honda cx650)? > >Just wondering if this bike is an evolution of the old SilverWing > >or what? >Take care, Ron > > Nobody really knows what kind of engine the PC has as it never > needs any repairs. Some people think it's actually a nuclear engine, > others think they sometimes hear the sound of hamsters beneath > the plastic. Most of them think it's just a reciprocal engine, eventhough > it's smooth character reminds more of a turbine. The following spy > picture has been intercepted, sources indicate this could be what > is driving the PC: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/pc8-eng.htm > It is of a "twin sparked" (two spark plugs per cilinder), liquid cooled > (fan equipped), 800cc OHC 45° V-twin with 3 valves per cylinder, > hydraulic valve adjusters, hydraulic clutch, digital electronic ignition > and shaft drive. It is positioned fore-aft, like on the Honda Transalp, > Shadow, Africa Twin, Revere and Deauville. It produces about 53hp > and 64 Nm DIN, that's 46hp and 55 Nm actual on the rear wheel > as you can see here: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/mod-torque-hp.htm > It's torque-curve (can't call it a curve really) shows a unique flatness, > torque at every RPM. > > More technical info on the PC: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-mods.htm#usspecs > > For more pictures of PC's, check out my PC800 page and > all the links at the bottom of that page: > http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/pc800.html > A new link not on there yet: http://go.to/pc800 > > It's not an evolution of the Silverwing allthough it will probably > adress the same kind of targetgroup of riders. It's an unique bike > which was ahead of it's time and was unfortunately undermarketed > by Honda. You don't see that many bikes which have so much value. > > Emile > '92 ST1100 (yeah, I know...)ABS/TCS "Eclipse" > http://fly.to/emile > http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.... > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Fwd: Re: HTML Email Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:48:57 +0100 I sincerely do hope that the attitude behind this comment is not part of the 'American Culture' Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) > > > >[ Dutchman trying to integrate in American culture by > > throwing some US slang into discussion he picked up > > from t.v. ] > > > >>Joyce > >>Sonoma County, Ca > >>1996 "Red Rolls" > > > >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:08:22 -0400 Betty Lise Anderson > > writes: > >> > >>>Arvid is a smart guy, just not a "pro" in pc-settings. I wouldn't > >call > >him or Betty > >>>Lise clueless. I can see the AOL part a bit though ; )... > >>> > >>Anyone calls me or my buddy Arvid "clueless" and I will have to ask > >>them to > >>step outside. > >> > >>Betty Lise Anderson > >>'90 PC, 10,000 miles > >>Columbus, Ohio (home of flatland apes) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB04FB020124; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:02:28 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:05:04 -0400 Thanks for all of the advice! I would not dare put anything into the crankcase w/o clearing it with MY Honda dealer. I am anxious to learn more about this 'antibackfire' screen. That rings a bell. Yesterday when I cut the engine off, it made a little pop sound (more like a puff).... Wasn't really a backfire... just a low scale 'pup' sound. I never even thought about it. *** If someone can tell me how to locate this thing and how to clean it out (& what plastic parts to take off) I would appreciate it. I am getting to be a pro w/ the plastic. I have a big trip coming up Sept. 20 and would like to have it cleared up by then. This thing is reaelly minor.... just bothers be that it is happening at 8000 miles. Thanks again for everyones advice. Michael ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David L. Sigsbee To: R. Fenwick Cc: Michael D. Linkous ; Pacific Coast Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:12 AM Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak > There are some earlier posts by Chuck Chiodini, which, if I remember > correctly, tell of blow-by oil collecting below the antibackfire screen > under the air cleaner. The oil, if not cleaned out, eventually moves > down the side of the cylinder. This might be the source of the drip, > although with a low mileage bike it would be suprising if enough has > already collected to drip. Unless, of course, there is a blowby > problem. > > --david > > -- > David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 > JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 > University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu > Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACFD4FE70048; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:10:53 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: Honda year 2000 models Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:13:24 -0400 Got the Red Rider today. Will share some *priveledged* information with those of you who are not HCRA members. Tomorrow, Sept. 9 they are releasing the 2000 models on their website. According to Red Rider, HRCA members can get a sneak peak one day early on their website. Says the website will be open at approx. 8:30 PM (CDT) today, Wednesday. This is what they say to do... Go to www.hondamotorcycles.com Visit the INSIDE HONDA area by clicking PRESS on the homepage. When prompted, enter the user name, HRCA and the password NEWORLEANS00. Anxious to see what has changed... if anything. Still got a couple of hours from my time zone. Hope I do not get in trouble for sharing this *secret* ;-) ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:23:46 -0800 From: "Juan A. Goula" To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Honda year 2000 models "Michael D. Linkous" wrote: > Anxious to see what has changed... if anything. Still got a couple of hours > from my time zone. Thanks for the info. I promise I won't tell anyone at Honda, unless they offer me a new bike :-) I sure hope they change _something_, and I'm just talking about their web site! a couple of hours ago I requested a brochure and the message said that they would be sending me my new 1998 brochure. Excuuuse me? 1998? Their webmaster(s) is giving Honda a bad name. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W "There is only one difference between a non-rider and me. I am not mad." (with apologies to Salvador Dalí) ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:40:17 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Michael D. Linkous" CC: Pacific Coast Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak "Michael D. Linkous" wrote: > Thanks for all of the advice! > > I would not dare put anything into the crankcase w/o clearing it with MY > Honda dealer. > > I am anxious to learn more about this 'antibackfire' screen. That rings a > bell. Yesterday when I cut the engine off, it made a little pop sound (more > like a puff).... Wasn't really a backfire... just a low scale 'pup' sound. > I never even thought about it. > > *** If someone can tell me how to locate this thing and how to clean it out > (& what plastic parts to take off) I would appreciate it. I am getting to > be a pro w/ the plastic. I have a big trip coming up Sept. 20 and would > like to have it cleared up by then. > The screen is in the air box under the air filter. From memory, you must remove the side vents first, then the front seat and then the side covers below the seat and tank. Then remove the tank cover. The air filter is inside the black housing inside the false tank cover. The screen is snapped in place and takes some prying to remove. Just to satisfy my curiosity, are you using Mobil 1 oil? Every motor I have tried Mobil 1 in has leaked oil. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?= To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Non PC related (Remote Controller( Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:34:58 +0200 Hi, I am trying to get hold of a Pronto Remote controller for My home cinema. There is a guy in Michigan that sells them for a very reasonable price, but he wont ship them abroad. The question is : Into what state should I ship it without paying no sales tax , or is the sales tax not added if the goods come by mail from another state ?? Thanks Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- 89 PC "SOS" PCOG/PCOC # 2 My Home page is at: http://get.to/arvid ................................................... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:51:27 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Arvid =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik?= CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC related (Remote Controller( Arvid Løvik wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get hold of a Pronto Remote controller for My home cinema. > There is a guy in Michigan that sells them for a very reasonable price, but > he wont ship them abroad. > The question is : Into what state should I ship it without paying no sales > tax , or is the sales tax not added if the goods come by mail from another > state ?? > Sales tax is normally only collected in the state where the item is sold. I have seen tax collected in more than one state and I guess it was because the company was located in more than one state. Example, "Sales tax collected in Cal., Tex., and N.J." -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Randall" To: "Michael D. Linkous" Cc: "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:19:19 -0400 DON'T USE STOP LEAK! A repair shop ruined the heater core and radiator = in a Saab I once owned with that stuff. It clogs up little holes - guess = what the tubes in your radiator are - little holes. There's an o-ring on = the tube to which you are referring - dollars to doughnuts that's where = the leak is coming from. Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Michael D. Linkous To: Pacific Coast Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:48 PM Subject: PC800: still got that oil leak I cannot figure out where it is coming from. It just looked like = the oil was oozing from around that hose that joins the engine (in front = of the side kickstand and oil filter). That hose carries coolant = (duh!). =20 I took the entire plastic off of that side and just see some oily = residue. Residue also building up on the clear and black hoses that = hang down at the side kickstand. It really never has dripped onto the = floor. 3 drips on the floor is all it has ever done. It is just = bothering me... no matter how small it is... esp. since it just has 8k = miles on it. If any repairs are necessary it should be covered under = warranty... but remember that guy told me it only had a yr. warranty. = Guess I'll have to show him proof. =20 I am going next week to have new tires put on. I will mention it to = the guy then. I was at a independant (NO HONDA) service shop today to = get an inspection sticker and he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a = can of that "quit-leak" stuff. I told him that I really did not want to = do that to that new of a bike. He says there is nothing wrong with = using that stuff. Says it doesn't matter if it is a car, motorcycel, or = anything else... as long as it is a gasoline engine. I am still = hesitant until I get more advice (from Honda dealer and you guys.) =20 Any suggestions. Like I said... it is pretty minor... not affecting = oil level that I can tell and it is not dripping. I just know it should = not be leaking at all. =20 Thanks in advance. =20 ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV http://www.inetone.net/mlinkous =20 =20 sticker and=20 he told me to go to a Auto store and buy a can of that = "quit-leak"=20 stuff.  I told him that I really did not want to do that to = that new of=20 a bike.  He says there is nothing wrong with using that = stuff. =20 Says it doesn't matter if it is a car, motorcycel, or anything = else... as=20 long as it is a gasoline engine.  I am still hesitant until I = get more=20 advice (from Honda dealer and you guys.)
     
    Any = suggestions.  Like I=20 said... it is pretty minor... not affecting oil level that I can = tell and it=20 is not dripping.  I just know it should not be leaking at=20 all.
     
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    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7A64DB000D2; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:56:22 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Steve Wilson" Cc: "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:58:08 -0400 Nope to Mobil 1 I use only Hondaline... I am just perplexed that this new of a Honda is leaking oil. I have been a good boy... only using Hondaline stuff.... scheduled maitenance, etc. Michael > > > > The screen is in the air box under the air filter. From memory, you must remove > the side vents first, then the front seat and then the side covers below the > seat and tank. Then remove the tank cover. The air filter is inside the black > housing inside the false tank cover. The screen is snapped in place and takes > some prying to remove. Just to satisfy my curiosity, are you using Mobil 1 oil? > Every motor I have tried Mobil 1 in has leaked oil. > > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) > 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) > IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:49:44 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: PC on steroids? Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:49:31 -0400 These guys must have been thinking about the PC when they designed this one: http://www.bike.bmw.com/english/index.html Scroll down on the page and select a color, then choose the larger image. There is a red and silver two-tone (they're all two-tone with silver lower), and the champagne looks a lot like 89 Pearl White. I can feel the Dark Side pulling, only thing saving me is that I don't have enough Dark Side Force Power ($$$). . . Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What's winterizing?") ************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:04:48 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Color Change To: jking@iglobal.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/8/99 12:39:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time, jking@iglobal.net writes: << I guess that would give you a "moo-torcycle", eh? LOL!! >> Could be! Mine already has horns! (sorry) Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:04:52 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak To: mlinkous@inetone.net, deere@linknet.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 9/8/99 5:57:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mlinkous@inetone.net writes: << Every motor I have tried Mobil 1 in has leaked oil. > >> Yo, Steve. I have used Moby 1 in my bike for over 60K and no leaks. If memory serves, David Little's 225,000 mile PC leaks no oil either, and he has used Mobil 1 for most all of those miles. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Tom and Anita Humphrey" Cc: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: Oil leak (cont'd) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:18:31 -0400 Thanks for the advice. I know how to check my oil level..... it is right in the middle....... and I do not screw it back in.... You are right... I may not have a leak... Sounds like the next step for me is to check that airbox. Too many people on this list keep bringing that up.... and I have experienced before this list has a tendency to know more than the service shop. ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tom and Anita Humphrey To: Michael D. Linkous Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:00 PM Subject: RE: PC800: still got that oil leak > Are you SURE you have an oil leak? Just because it is wet, dark & oily > doesn't mean it is either oil or a leak. You could have discharge from the > airbox, you could have an overfilled crankcase (you do measure the oil on a > level surface, on the centerstand, remove & clean the dipstick, & re-insert > dipstick WITHOUT screwing it in. Then read the oil level - is should be > between the upper & lower marks of the "hashed" or cross-cut area on the > dipstick.) > Overfilling will gunk up the airbox, which has a drain tube, I believe. > Plus an over-filled crankcase will splash the oil & foam it into overflow. > First, make sure you have correct oil in the crankcase, and that it is at > the proper level. > Second, clean the "dirty" oil scum off of the affected areas. > Third, ride the bike a thousand or two miles, checking the oil level (hint: > it is better to be near the lower line on the dipstick than the upper. > NEVER OVERFILL. > Fourth, see if the airbox is clean. Your dealer can do that. > Fifth, if you are not loosing oil level, you have no (or little) problem. > You might have run over an oily patch on the road that splashed gunk unto > your underengine area. > > FWIW > Tom in CA > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:36:05 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Ryan Subject: PC800: burning antifreeze smell - where to look? Hello all. As I was pulling in to the garage tonight, I could smell hot antifreeze coming from the bike. Nothing was dropping on the ground. Any tips on where I should look first? I've had my PC for less than a year, and haven't had it apart very far. This is the first time its happened. The bike was not overly hot, either. I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who has mounted magnets under their 'tank' to aid a magnetic tank bag. How much room is under there? I'm trying to decide what size magnets I should order. Thanks for any help. Ryan '94 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:53:37 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 mailing-list" Subject: PC800: Price of a new 97 model Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:37:17 +0200 Hi all Does anyone know the USA price of a new 97 model? I can't find the price on Internet. Jeroen van Vuure vuure@dds.nl Holland -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:08:09 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: close call I was riding home from school this evening, really enjoying myself and the prettiest evening we've had here in Mid-Missouri in months. I made the decision to take Rock Quarry Road home instead of the main roads of Stadium and Providence. Rock Quarry is a short, twisty tree lined stretch of road that provides a good quick thrill for a biker. I rode south on College Avenue, which becomes Rock Quarry south of Stadium Blvd. Approaching the intersection, an old kinda beat-up Chevy S-10 with a camper shell made a perfectly reasonable shift into my lane. It became clear that this driver was also going south on Rock Quarry and I became a tad irritated that random events had conspired to restrict my little fun. After the light changed, we headed south across the intersection. Here, Rock quarry Road takes a rather steep downgrade. As the pickup started down the hill, a shiny black Mazda Miata coming up the hill inexplicably turned left into the pickup's path. The truck's driver slammed on the brakes, but although she wasn't going very fast, the steepness of the hill and the smoother road surface combined to slide the pickup gently into the front right corner of the Miata, denting the hood. The two pulled over into a gas station parking lot and exchanged info. I pulled up and offered my name and phone number in case they needed a witness. At first glance, this was a minor accident. For a truck. After I got home, I began to really consider what the outcome might have been had I been the lead vehicle out of that intersection. Following my usual pattern, I would have hit that hill with considerably more speed than the truck. Had the Miata driver not seen my 130 watt headlamp, I would have hit his car and I would have gone flying. Minus the bike. I have spent the last few hours thinking about the things that happen to us and the things, because of the intervention of happenstance, that DON'T happen to us. I'm thankful that things turned out as they did. And I know I'm damned lucky to be in one piece. Food for Thought Ralph Couey Now quite Coolumbia, Missouri -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:33:36 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Steve Wilson" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC related (Remote Controller( Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:18:50 -0700 Sales Tax is collectable from a company selling where they have a "Nexus" which means some kind of business location. There are certain states which collect tax on any company they can identify. I worked for a company (and was responsible for the sales tax report system) which did business in all fifty states of the US. We had to know which states required us to keep track and which didn't. Since we had local sales people in almost every state, we could be subject to the "Nexus" rule, but most states did not follow it. We had a service we subscribed to which provided a tracking of who we needed to report to and what the rates were for each state (or special districts inside the state). The worst area was in Altanta Georgia because of the MARTA (Metro Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority). They had about 30 special tax rates within Atlanta! One of the southern states (I think it was Mississippi) had permentantly stationed sales tax auditors here in California to come in and audit every company that reported (and paid) tax to the state. We never had a problem, but they came in every year like clockwork. OK .. more than you wanted to know about sales tax. For mail order, just like Steve said, you have to check with the vendor. Wherever they report tax is where you will have to pay it. Most mail order companies only pay in a state where they also have to file some sort of income tax. The mail order company is the only one who can answer this. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson To: Arvid Løvik Cc: PC800 Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Non PC related (Remote Controller( > >Arvid Løvik wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to get hold of a Pronto Remote controller for My home cinema. >> There is a guy in Michigan that sells them for a very reasonable price, but >> he wont ship them abroad. >> The question is : Into what state should I ship it without paying no sales >> tax , or is the sales tax not added if the goods come by mail from another >> state ?? >> > >Sales tax is normally only collected in the state where the item is sold. I >have seen tax collected in more than one state and I guess it was because the >company was located in more than one state. Example, "Sales tax collected in >Cal., Tex., and N.J." > >-- >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > >Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care >Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck >Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 (Tar-Baby) > 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) > IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:37:45 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: "PC800 Mailing List" , "Clay & Shelly Leihy" Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? Hooray! I got the clear number backing yesterday, placed a piece on the left side of the rotor cover on the front wheel, and got the bike inspected. The inspector balked at putting the inspection sticker on the plastic, "Most people don't like putting it on plastic", but I assured him it was okay -- I guess he never saw the number backing, but that's what I want! I bought a package of 3 sheets, 12 in. x 18 in., for $15. The brand was Factory Effects, but they're all mostly the same I hear. It comes in different colors and clear, to back motocross numbers (or other numbers I suppose), and also comes in "carbon-fiber-look" of course. The plastic is 16 mil thick, with peel-and-stick adhesive on one side. It's pretty strong adhesive - it can be removed and repositioned, but I peeled it off slowly just to be careful. Supposedly it won't hurt the paint. It stretches pretty well, so I was able to form it to the compound curve of the rotor cover. This would also be good material to put to protect paint from rock dings, scrape marks, etc. best, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:18:33 -0400 >I haven't opened the package yet, but the number backing that I just picked up today does say 3M on it . . . At first all they could find was a fender kit, precut pieces for top and sides of a motocross rear fender. Then the guy found the good stuff down on the bottom of the pile. Looks like three or four legal or ledger size sheets of stuff, $12 or $15 I think. Thank goodness, after less than a month of ownership, I've gotten really tired of cleaning black scuff marks off the white paint. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What' winterizing?") ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chris Norloff To: ; Desmond Cockburn Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:42 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Bolt-on plate for inspection & tax stickers? > Excellent idea! I was leaning against fabricating a plate to put the stickers on due to looks and hassle. 3M makes a clear product called 3M Scotchcal Paint Protection Film that looks like it'd do the job, but I can't find it locally yet. > > I bet I can find motocross number backing! > > thanks, > Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:42:13 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: "PC800 mailing-list" , "Jeroen van Vuure" Subject: Re: PC800: Price of a new 97 model Motorcycle Consumer News says it's worth $6,100. http://www.mcnews.com/articles/honda.htm Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:37:17 +0200 >Hi all Does anyone know the USA price of a new 97 model? I can't find the price on Internet. Jeroen van Vuure vuure@dds.nl Holland -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:28:05 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff " To: Subject: PC800: Introduction I guess I should introduce myself to the list. Chris Norloff, just bought a '90 PC. Been riding street about 13 years. Taught as an MSF-certified instructor for 6 years, and ran the local training center for 3 years. I ride about 8-10,000 miles a year, commuting 5 days a week (year-round) in the Washington, DC, area, and ride on weekends and vacations as the opportunities arise. Got a wife and 5 kids - one on his own, 2 in college, and 2 at home. The 2 at home love to ride (2 wheels or 3 wheels) and both want bikes of their own. My 13-year old already has her eye on the PC ... so you can tell she has good taste :-) So hi, and thanks for the help with figuring out how to mount those pesky inspection & tax stickers! best, -- Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:30:17 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Price of a new 97 model To: vuure@dds.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) vuure@dds.nl writes: >Hi all > >Does anyone know the USA price of a new 97 model? >I can't find the price on Internet. > >Jeroen van Vuure >vuure@dds.nl >Holland A new 1998 Pacific Coast last year was $6,699 US. That was Honda's MSRP. I got mine for $6,499 US from my Honda dealer. As I recall, Honda was giving rebates to the dealers on all new Pacific Coasts regardless of the model year they had in stock, so they could price them all at $6,699 rather than the original over $8,000 price. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:32:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: still got that oil leak "Michael D. Linkous" writes: > I cannot figure out where it is coming from. It just looked like the > oil was oozing from around that hose that joins the engine (in front > of the side kickstand and oil filter). That hose carries coolant (duh!). > I took the entire plastic off of that side and just see some oily residue. > Residue also building up on the clear and black hoses that hang down at > the side kickstand. It really never has dripped onto the floor. 3 drips > on the floor is all it has ever done. It is just bothering me... no > matter how small it is... esp. since it just has 8k miles on it. Just a guess, but try tightening the clamps on the rubber boots that clamp the carbs to the engine. "Spooge" leaking out of the boots, and down the cylinders is a common complaint of Hawk owners, who think they have an oil leak, but it's just fuel leakage. Since the PC engine is enclosed, you don't notice it until the stuff gets to a lower level. This was one of the first things I checked when I bought my '94 PC, and both clamps were quite loose; they easily took a half turn or more of a screwdriver. And, if you have the option, I could consider finding a new dealer, as the one you have doesn't seem to have much of a service attitude. Better yet, but a shop manual and learn to do basic maintenance yourself. It's good therapy, in a world where things are increasingly computerized and inaccessible, to be able to work on something that has recognizable parts that respond to your ministrations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:44:59 -0300 To: Ryan , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: leaks PC riders are perfectionists and notice even tiny leaks on their bikes. If you visit the Big PC Repair and Maintenance database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and select Show Year: All Show System: All Details Containing: leak to see various kinds of leak reports and what people have done about it. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" Cc: "Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: still got that oil leak Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:49:18 -0700 Excuse Me: I have used Mobil 1 in both my cars & bikes and never experienced a leaking problem. I just recently just did my first oil change on my 96 PC after Mobil 1 had been in her for 7,000 miles, the oil level was down about 1/4 quart. The bike had 5,050 miles on her when I purchased her two months ago, now has over 13,000 miles. That's my experience. >some prying to remove. Just to satisfy my curiosity, are you using Mobil 1 oil? >Every motor I have tried Mobil 1 in has leaked oil. > Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "Ralph Couey" , Subject: Re: PC800: close call Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:59:57 -0700 Sometimes we just get a little grace that carries us through life. Ever wonder how many times this occurs and we aren't even aware of it. > >I have spent the last few hours thinking about the things that happen to >us and the things, because of the intervention of happenstance, that >DON'T happen to us. I'm thankful that things turned out as they did. > Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:05:41 -0700 Chris, Welcome to the group. You know what they say, a family that cycles together stays together. Sounds like yours is right on track... Will Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:22:45 +0100 Hi Chris, Welcome to the PC800 Email List. Friendly bunch of people here and the List is better than the Owner's Manual :-) Job Chithalan, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) ---------- > From: Chris Norloff > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Introduction > Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 1:28 PM > > I guess I should introduce myself to the list. > > Chris Norloff, just bought a '90 PC. Been riding street about 13 years. Taught as an MSF-certified instructor for 6 years, and ran the local training center for 3 years. I ride about 8-10,000 miles a year, commuting 5 days a week (year-round) in the Washington, DC, area, and ride on weekends and vacations as the opportunities arise. > > Got a wife and 5 kids - one on his own, 2 in college, and 2 at home. The 2 at home love to ride (2 wheels or 3 wheels) and both want bikes of their own. My 13-year old already has her eye on the PC ... so you can tell she has good taste :-) > > So hi, and thanks for the help with figuring out how to mount those pesky inspection & tax stickers! > > best, > > -- > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, VA > '90 Honda Pacific Coast > '89 BMW K100LT > '82 Honda CB750F > '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > -- > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: PC on steroids? "Clay & Shelly Leihy" write: > Scroll down on the page and select a color, then choose the larger > image. There is a red and silver two-tone (they're all two-tone with > silver lower), and the champagne looks a lot like 89 Pearl White. I > can feel the Dark Side pulling, only thing saving me is that I don't > have enough Dark Side Force Power ($$$). . . My wife and I had the same reaction (PC on Steroids) when we saw the K1200LT at a show in February. All you need is $20,000 and enough muscle to wrestle something that has a relatively high CG and weighs about 200 pounds more than a PC... No thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:36:22 -0400 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: PC800: coolanyt What brand of coolant should be used in the PC 800? I know is should be silicate free. -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:45:52 -0500 To: cen13504 , pc list From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: coolanyt I know of two that I would personally use - Honda Coolant and an aftermarket brand carried by my local independent shop called "Coolinol". The "Coolinol" can also be found in the Dennis Kirk catalog. It is odd though, that my independent shop sells the Coolinol cheaper than Dennis Kirk... ? I will be changing my coolant this winter and will be using the Coolinol. Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles At 12:36 PM 09/09/1999 -0400, cen13504 wrote: > >What brand of coolant should be used in the PC 800? I know is should be >silicate free. >-- >Kenneth Winter >East TN >Walters State Community College >423-626-5063 >95 Isuzu Trooper >90 Honda PC "Second Chance" >87 Toyota Mini RV >84 SP 200 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:58:21 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Selden Deemer'" , PC 800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Re: PC on steroids? Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:51:35 -0700 You would be surprised about the weight. It is not that hard to deal with. The weight is fairly low like the PC and while heavier, it seems to handle much like the PC. It is easier to deal with at a slow speed. I decided I would not want to pay the price, but after riding it, if I could get a real good deal on one (like about $12,000), I might consider one. Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 9/9/99 7:53 AM, Selden Deemer [SMTP:libssd@emory.edu] wrote: > > My wife and I had the same reaction (PC on Steroids) when we saw the > K1200LT at a show in February. All you need is $20,000 and enough > muscle to wrestle something that has a relatively high CG and weighs > about 200 pounds more than a PC... No thanks. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:23:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: Francois Saint Laurent cc: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC on steroids? So, Francois, what are your *real* feelings? One of the people at the MSF course last week said she was looking for a new bike, and I said, "Why?" Given the depreciation factor, I can't ever imagine buying a new bike. There are too many nice used bikes available at attractive prices. A lot of beaters too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > I could leave my place in Ottawa, Canada next September, head to the > west coast for the great Y2K ride, and drive down the coast. Then if > something does happen to my PC800 along the way where it needs > maintenance, I could throw it away, buy a new PC800 and drive it > home. I would still be ahead of the game financially compared to > buying the K1200LT. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:34:31 -0500 To: PC 800 List From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: PC Service Manual for sale.... Hey folks - There is a PC service manual listed on eBay for sale, it says it covers years 89-95. I know nothing about this, just being friendly and passing this along. It is right now at $12.10, and $3.20 for shipping. I know there have to be several of you out there that want one of these.... Here you go! Here's a direct link to the auction.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=156070621 Rich Fenwick 1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles
    It is right now at $12.10, and $3.20 for shipping.

    I know there have to be several of you out there that want one of these.... Here you go!

    Here's a direct link to the auction....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=156070621

    Rich Fenwick
    1990 PC800L, 20,800 miles
    -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:53:32 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Pc800 (E-mail)" , "St1100 List (E-mail)" , "HSTA (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Shoei RF-700 Helmet for sale Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:46:56 -0700 I have just purchased Nolan N-100 helmets for my wife and I. Because of that, her other helmet is no longer needed. Since she has such a small head, I thought I would offer the helmet to someone on one of three lists (HSTA, PC800, & ST1100). Perhaps someone is looking for a quality helmet in a very small size. It is XXS ... yeah that's right Extra Extra Small. It is the Pearl White color and has only been used for one year (two summers) and was not used that much. It is in very good shape. These seem to be retailing for about $235.00. We are asking $100.00 plus shipping. If you're looking for a helmet for your child, this might be the one you need. Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'cen13504'" Cc: "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: coolanyt Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:57:13 -0400 Kenneth, After what I recently learned about "scrubbers" and the harm they can do to motorcycle water pumps, I will only use the Honda coolant. It may be a little pricey at $3.99/quart, but it's a no fuss/no muss solution. Premixed and ready to pour! I look at it as a "pay me now or pay me later" situation. Has to be cheaper than a new water pump for a PC! Regards, Bob Reinhardt 1995 Pacific Coast (18K) 1986 Interceptor 500 (6K) -----Original Message----- From: cen13504 [mailto:KLW@centuryinter.net] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 12:36 PM To: pc list Subject: PC800: coolanyt What brand of coolant should be used in the PC 800? I know is should be silicate free. -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jrandall@tricon.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: jrandall@tricon.net Subject: FW: Re: PC800: close call Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:20:44 -0700 Will Edwards wrote on Thu, Thu Sep 1999 06:59:57 -0700 ------------------ >Ever wonder how many times this occurs and we aren't even >aware of it. IMO, it occurs all the time. I think there are constant opportunities to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ralph's original story of allowing another vehicle to take the lead then observing the ensueing collision is a good case in point. I can think of numerous occasions when it was obvious had I been a second ahead or behind, I would have been involved in an serious event... and those are only the ones I know about. A week ago Sunday my son was not so lucky. He was riding a narrow, rural "short cut" to a friend's house which he's ridden dozens of times in the past. He rounded a familiar but blind curve too close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. Fortunately he only side-swiped the oncoming car rather than hitting it head on. Things would have been much worse had he been a couple of inches further to the left. As it is, he suffered serious injuries to his left leg and right hand. Eventualy he will recover almost completely but not without much physical and mental pain and suffering and missing out activities with in his friends in the interim. My point is that although he could have prevented the collision completely by staying safely to the right and allowing more reaction time, so could have the driver of the car. Both of them had probably gotten away the exactly the same behavior numerous times in the past, but they couldn't get away with it simultaneously. It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think this sort of thing happens all the time. I suspect that if one watched any busy intersection from a bird's eye view for a couple of hours, they would see numerous situations where a second or two difference in timing would result collisions. So, as Will so aptly observes, sometimes (actually, I suspect a LOT of times) we just get a little grace. BTW, if you'd like to cheer up a mending but currently home-bound teenage rider, Joe's email address is randall3@naxs.net Jim Randall ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:41:57 -0400 From: "cnorloff" To: Subject: Re: PC800: close call ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ...He rounded a familiar but blind curve too close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. ... It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. ------------------------------------------------------------- No it wasn't. It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the centerline is not unusual). My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. Chris Norloff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: f5jgk@club-internet.fr Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:51:10 +0200 CC: pclist , scpcrc List Subject: PC800: Re: trunk wear through on '89 Hello all, About the stator problem, I've a PC 90 (but I'm not sure that it is realy a 90 or a 89 model!) and I've got it in second hand, then I don't know if the stator has been replaced. Could you tell me how can I know (if it's possible) when it will be out of order? and/or is it possible to know if it is the original one or not ? I'm working to build a second fuel tank (with the same material as used for wind surf or some small boat (sorry I don't know its name in english !) and it will be placed in the front of the left trunk and connected to the original one) I would like to know if any one has an experience about that ? Best regards from France and sorry again for my bad english ps : if there are some french guy on this list, could you send me a mail? Thierry Grenoble FRANCE John La a écrit : > So. Cal. PC Riders Club - http://scpcrc.org > > Listers- please reply to: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com > (he's not on the list yet) > --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > > hello, > > I am in process of purchasing a 89' > > pc800(8,300mi.) There is a small hole > > in the trunk liner from the tire rubbing. #1) Is > > this a recall and how do I > > go about it to fix it. #2) since you have a 89' > > pc800, I was wondering if > > you were happy with your's & any input or > > suggestions would > > begreat.........Thanks!..................TODD > > > > > > (askardlife@aol.com) > > > > Hi Todd- > > Trunk wear-through is a problem with some '89's. > Honda took care of the problem when the bike was under > warranty, but I doubt they will pay now. As far as I > know, there was never a recall. My recollection is a > different tire type or size helped, but I'm not sure > if there was more to it. > > The '89 has another potential problem. The stator > (part of the charging system) tends to wear out before > 30k. Mine broke before 10k. It costs between $400 > and $600 (including labor) depending on where you go. > > I don't want to discourage you from the bike. I love > my '89. I've had about 10 bikes in 15 years and I've > never liked any bike more or kept one longer than the > PC. I bought mine 5 years ago (3,200 miles) for $6000 > and I have no regrets. Other than the stator, I've > never spent a dime on repairs. Mantenance is very > cheap. There are no valve adjustments, so you just do > a tune up every year or two, and change the oil and > tires when necessary. Depending on the price, you > might be making a great deal. Just don't count on > Honda helping to fix it. An excellent condition '89 > with low miles should be (IMHO) no more than $3800. > I'd deduct $400-500 if the stator hasn't been > replaced. I'm not sure what to deduct for the trunk > wear-through. > > There is a e-mail list with 200 PC owners who might > have more knowledge on the trunk wear-through issue. > I suggest you join! It's free and a very valuable > resource. You can also search the archives for past > messages by subject. For information on the mailserve > and archives see the FAQ: > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm > > There is also a maintanence database where you can > check to see who has done what to their bike. > > I'll copy your letter to the list, so you can get > little more input. Hope this helps. > > John > > === > PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm > > -- > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com > MSN Messenger Service lets you stay in touch instantly with > your family & friends - Visit http://messenger.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: FW: Re: PC800: close call To: PC800 I remember one time many years ago I was cruising along on a county road on a beautiful windy day. It was the 2nd weekend of May so the crops had not really started yet. The wind was blowing from the South, I was heading East. I was riding along at around 60 mph when a gust of wind was coming across the field creating a dust cloud across the road. I slowed down a little...but not really. Well when I drove through the cloud of dust from the field, which was a little bit thicker then I thought, not 100 feet (30.5 meters) was a stop sign. Clearly no time to stop. A car was coming from the South. A car was coming from the North, along with another car, with a truck, pulling a boat, followed by a couple more cars. I didn't think a brain could process so much information in such a short time. Being a window of opportunity existed between the second car from the North and the truck, about 4 car lengths, I pinned the throttle and hoped for the best. Well, I am here and when I looked in my mirror I saw the boat go by. Hmmm...Why am I shaking? === Later Roger R Chaska, MN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:49:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Clay & Shelly Leihy" To: Subject: Re: PC800: close call Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:48:20 -0400 I'm guessing that he was on the inside of the curve. I've had MANY close calls (no real danger, but it still raises the hairs on the back of my neck) on two-lane country roads, where cagers seem too lazy to steer the car through the curve and just cut across the inside. It's the same sort of phenomenon as the left turners at intersections. Watch and see how often people will cut right across the stop line and center line, instead of swinging it out through the turn. There is no excuse for it. I've driven my Ford E350 extended van (company truck) many, many miles and always stayed in my lane in the curves (often above the posted speed), and never cut off corners at an intersection. I could rant on and on, but suffice it to say, I still think that it is WAY too easy to get a driver's license in the good old US of A. Clay in NJ clayl@home.com 1989 PC800 "White Silk" PCOG#1015 DoD#2160 Polar Bear Club, AMA District II, NJ ("What's winterizing?") ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cnorloff To: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:41 PM Subject: Re: PC800: close call > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > ...He rounded a familiar but blind curve too > close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous > prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming > car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see > the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. > ... > It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > No it wasn't. > > It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the centerline is not unusual). > > My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. > > Chris Norloff > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "John La" , "Franco Chelini" Cc: "pclist" Subject: Re: PC800: ISO PC in Switzerland Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:39:46 +0200 >there's no way to buy a PC 800 on the swiss > market. Now as I'm thinking of importing a PC 800 >somehow, I heard that it's out of production. Is this right ? >Do you know why ?> Best regards > Franky Franky, there are plenty of second hand PC800's on sale in Holland, mainly '89 (white) and '90 (candy red metallic) models, some '94/'95 models (black). I've got a page setup with links to Dutch motorcycle dealers who have lists of their second hand motorcycles on the internet: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/shops.html Bad marketing and perhaps the looks (for some people too much scooterish....I love the look myself..) didn't help the PC. A listmember, Rich, just won the first price for his stock '90 PC for the second time at a car / motorcycle show in the US. The jury had never seen the PC800 before, which shows how bad the marketing was. The PC800 models which were imported grey to Holland in the beginning of the '90's sold pretty well and still are. I guess, like the K75RT and R850RT, the PC800 appeals more to the Dutch crowd. Perhaps Americans are more into Goldwings....who knows.. but those that discovered the bike are extremely happy with it. Hope to see you on the list one time. Greetings from Holland, Emile '92 ST ABS/TCS "Eclipse" (ex- '90 PC owner) http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site.... Ps. how do you like the Eco Mobile Peraves ? http://www.meos.ch/peraves -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "pclist" , "scpcrc List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: trunk wear through on '89 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:08:20 +0200 Bonjour Thierry. J'ai une nome Francais, mais je suis Hollandais. Nothing wrong with your English, I've seen Americans spell a lot worse on this list... >About the stator problem, I've a PC 90 (but I'm not sure that it is >realy a 90 or a 89 model!) There is a VIN plate between the two front fork legs somewhere which has the built date and model year on it. If your's it white, you can be pretty sure it's a '89. If it's red it must be a '90, except when it might be repainted by someone. To translate the Vehicle Identifier section (so you can see which model it is) check out this page: http://members.tripod.com/pc800/serials.html Don't know about the rest of your questions, sorry... Au revoir, Emile Nossin '92 ST1100 ABS/TCS Pan European "Eclipse" http://fly.to/emile http://go.to/pc800 The listmembers site, your site... ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cc: pclist ; scpcrc List Sent: donderdag 9 september 1999 21:51 Subject: PC800: Re: trunk wear through on '89 Hello all, About the stator problem, I've a PC 90 (but I'm not sure that it is realy a 90 or a 89 model!) and I've got it in second hand, then I don't know if the stator has been replaced. Could you tell me how can I know (if it's possible) when it will be out of order? and/or is it possible to know if it is the original one or not ? I'm working to build a second fuel tank (with the same material as used for wind surf or some small boat (sorry I don't know its name in english !) and it will be placed in the front of the left trunk and connected to the original one) I would like to know if any one has an experience about that ? Best regards from France and sorry again for my bad english ps : if there are some french guy on this list, could you send me a mail? Thierry Grenoble FRANCE John La a écrit : > So. Cal. PC Riders Club - http://scpcrc.org > > Listers- please reply to: ASKARDLIFE@aol.com > (he's not on the list yet) > --- ASKARDLIFE@aol.com wrote: > > hello, > > I am in process of purchasing a 89' > > pc800(8,300mi.) There is a small hole > > in the trunk liner from the tire rubbing. #1) Is > > this a recall and how do I > > go about it to fix it. #2) since you have a 89' > > pc800, I was wondering if > > you were happy with your's & any input or > > suggestions would > > begreat.........Thanks!..................TODD > > > > > > (askardlife@aol.com) > > > > Hi Todd- > > Trunk wear-through is a problem with some '89's. > Honda took care of the problem when the bike was under > warranty, but I doubt they will pay now. As far as I > know, there was never a recall. My recollection is a > different tire type or size helped, but I'm not sure > if there was more to it. > > The '89 has another potential problem. The stator > (part of the charging system) tends to wear out before > 30k. Mine broke before 10k. It costs between $400 > and $600 (including labor) depending on where you go. > > I don't want to discourage you from the bike. I love > my '89. I've had about 10 bikes in 15 years and I've > never liked any bike more or kept one longer than the > PC. I bought mine 5 years ago (3,200 miles) for $6000 > and I have no regrets. Other than the stator, I've > never spent a dime on repairs. Mantenance is very > cheap. There are no valve adjustments, so you just do > a tune up every year or two, and change the oil and > tires when necessary. Depending on the price, you > might be making a great deal. Just don't count on > Honda helping to fix it. An excellent condition '89 > with low miles should be (IMHO) no more than $3800. > I'd deduct $400-500 if the stator hasn't been > replaced. I'm not sure what to deduct for the trunk > wear-through. > > There is a e-mail list with 200 PC owners who might > have more knowledge on the trunk wear-through issue. > I suggest you join! It's free and a very valuable > resource. You can also search the archives for past > messages by subject. For information on the mailserve > and archives see the FAQ: > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm > > There is also a maintanence database where you can > check to see who has done what to their bike. > > I'll copy your letter to the list, so you can get > little more input. Hope this helps. > > John > > === > PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm > > -- > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com > MSN Messenger Service lets you stay in touch instantly with > your family & friends - Visit http://messenger.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:54:24 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: close call To: cnorloff@piglet.toward.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cnorloff@piglet.toward.com writes: >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >...He rounded a familiar but blind curve too >close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous >prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming >car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see >the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. >... >It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. >------------------------------------------------------------- > >No it wasn't. > >It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not >allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the >centerline is not unusual). > >My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going >through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going >too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. > >Chris Norloff Lighten up Chris! At least give poor Joe Randall a chance to recover before you lecture him about safe motorcycling. I know you are a MSF safety instructor and what you say about allowing yourself an out is true, but I sure hope this is not the type of "cheer up" email message you plan on sending directly to Joe. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, New York 13148 '98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Cled Click" To: "PC800 Listserv" Subject: PC800: Valve stem replacement Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:16:55 -0500 Can anyone advise what size valve stems are correct for a 1989 PC800? Internet tire sales locations show different sizes. The valve stems on the 1989 PC800 have a 090 degree angle. We are putting new tires on the front and rear of my son's PC800 and want to put new valve stems in at the same time. Any advice and/or assistance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.... Dr. Cled Click Amarillo, Texas drclick@arn.net 1989 PC800 17K 1991 ST1100 Silver STallion 41K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EK5PNX5D; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:24:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:28:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: close call From: Joyce D Calvert On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:54:24 -0400 pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) writes: >cnorloff@piglet.toward.com writes: >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>...He rounded a familiar but blind curve too >>close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous >>prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming >>car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see >>the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. >>... >>It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. >>------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>No it wasn't. >> >>It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not >>allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the >>centerline is not unusual). >> >>My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going >>through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going >>too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. >> >>Chris Norloff > >Lighten up Chris! At least give poor Joe Randall a chance to >recover before you lecture him about safe motorcycling. > >I know you are a MSF safety instructor and what you say about >allowing yourself an out is true, but I sure hope this is not the >type of "cheer up" email message you plan on sending directly to >Joe. > >Tim Davies >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 >'98 Pacific Coast-"Yankee Smuggler" Ditto, Tim. Joyce Sonoma County, Ca 1996 "Red Rolls" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Volt Meter Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:53:29 -0700 I found some plans for making your own volt meter, if you want to. Here is the url: http://www.teleport.com/~losborn/dvm.html Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:16:47 +0200 by mgate2.telekabel.at (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-57067U15000L15000S0V35) with SMTP id at for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:16:37 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhard Wieser" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:11:30 +0200 Hi! I live in Innsbruck, Austria, and am looking for a backrest for my pc = 800. I appreciate your offer! cu Reinhard -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: close call Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:46:12 +0100 cnorloff@piglet.toward.com wrote > snip> > >...He rounded a familiar but blind curve too > >close to the center of the road much like he had done on numerous > >prior occasions. Unfortunately, this time he met an oncoming > >car also in the center of the road. Neither driver could see > >the other oncoming vehicle until it was too late. > >... > >It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. > snip> Following suggestions are based on the "System of Motorcycle Control" used by Police and Emergency Services in the UK. Difficult to explain without diagrams but I hope it will give food for thought. Positioning of the motorbike correctly to the left or right on a bend can help one see more into the 'blind' bend. Correct positioning will also help oncoming vehicles to see you earlier. On a left hand bend, position yourself close to the right of the road to improve your view. On a right hand bend, positioning yourself to the center or even slightly to the left will allow you to see approaching vehicles much earlier because you can see deeper in to the bend. If you see an approaching vehicle move slightly over to your right to ensure that there will be a safe distance between you and the passing vehicle. It is also important to adjust the entry speed into and through the bend so that if necessary you can stop in the distance you can see. Do not negotiate a bend by looking down at the road. Turn your head and look at the furthest point you can see. When the bends opens and as the bike becomes upright up apply throttle and accelerate. The 'racing lines' taken in the circuit is totally inappropriate on the road, simply due to the fact that on the road you have vehicles coming from the opposite direction. Job, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:51:17 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , Subject: Re(2): PC800: close call ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." Following suggestions are based on the "System of Motorcycle Control" used by Police and Emergency Services in the UK. Difficult to explain without diagrams but I hope it will give food for thought. ************************** Well said. I really like the System method of control. It covers a lot of detail about the ongoing thinking process of riding. -- Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:57:09 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: close call >It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. >------------------------------------------------------------- > >No it wasn't. > >It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not >allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the >centerline is not unusual). > >My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going >through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going >too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. > >Chris Norloff Lighten up Chris! At least give poor Joe Randall a chance to recover before you lecture him about safe motorcycling. I know you are a MSF safety instructor and what you say about allowing yourself an out is true, but I sure hope this is not the type of "cheer up" email message you plan on sending directly to Joe. Tim Davies ************************************ Of course I wouldn't want to send that to someone lying hurt at home. But I think the fatalistic approach of "wrong place, wrong time" is a very dangerous attitude. Riding is a matter of skill and judgement, not luck. Unless you take the view of "the harder I work the luckier I get" :-) -- Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <--------- FOR SALE '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KGray96057@aol.com for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:36:56 EDT Subject: PC800: Accidents and responsibility To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I had been riding for about fifteen years when I wrecked my last bike. Totally my fault too.. I was riding into my driveway, took the angle too shallowly, and ended up coasting straight into the retaining wall. The fork crumbled like cheese. (Yamaha builds great engines, but...) And.. I was not a bad rider at all. Took the course, learned the basics on dirt- very forgiving of the odd goof- always drove defensively. The point being- in light of recent accidents and responses- everyone makes mistakes when they ride. Everyone, sooner or later, is going to screw the pooch, go over the high side, exceed their limits. The point of riding as safely as is possible, and of getting training, is how you respond when things _do_ go bad. It's how you manage the accident. Now, years after that crash, I am probably an even better rider. Things like that- smacking into the wall in the damned driveway- tend to teach one a certain humility. Humility- knowing that you are vulnerable- leads to practice and heightened awareness. I am certain tht there are riders on this list who have never gone down, never so much as scratched the tank... But.. that is an exception, rather than the rule, and the longer you ride, the likelier it is that you will have a problem. Wear a helmet. Wear protective clothing. Ride as if everyone out there is trying to kill you.. Whatever. But.. Know that you are, eventually, going to have to make tough decisions. And be tolerant of other's mistakes. Ken Gray 95 PC in insurance hell. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:23:22 -0300 To: f5jgk@club-internet.fr From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: trunk wear through on '89 Cc: pclist , scpcrc List At 16:51 9/9/99, f5jgk@club-internet.fr wrote: >About the stator problem, I've a PC 90 (but I'm not sure that it is >realy a 90 or a 89 model!) and I've got it in second hand, then I don't > know if the stator has been replaced. I would recommend getting a charging system voltage indicator. It is not expensive and will tell you that your bike will fail TOMORROW, making it very valuable. >Could you tell me how can I know (if it's possible) when it will be out >of order? and/or is it possible to know if it is the original one or not ? Without taking the stator cover off, no, and even then I'm not sure the answer would be reliable. >I'm working to build a second fuel tank (with the same material as used >for windsurf or some small boat (sorry I don't know its name in english !) Probably "fiberglass". -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:05:23 -0400 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: PC800: Oil No lonnggg discussions needed. What brand and weight oil are most PC riders using? I prefer a non synthetic. -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:19:53 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:07:59 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Oil To: cen13504 Cc: pc list Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail I use Amsoil 10w-40 when I have it. Otherwise Mobil 1. both synthetics. sorry. -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: close call Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:17:26 +0100 > Job wrote: > Following suggestions are based on the "System of Motorcycle Control" used > by Police and Emergency Services in the UK. Difficult to explain without > diagrams but I hope it will give food for thought. > ************************** > Well said. I really like the System method of control. It covers a lot of detail about the ongoing thinking process of riding. > Chris Norloff --------------------- There is lots of info at the following URLs. http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesdavis/DISCUSS.html (Good Riding Guide) http://www.mcnews.com/depts/prof.htm (Proficient Motorcycling) http://www.falacre.demon.co.uk/sussexrospa/page2.html (see 'Motorcycling Tips' in Adobe Acrobat format) http://www.iam.org.uk/Test/ http://www.roada.freeserve.co.uk/ ISBN Numbers for the Training Manuals an the Video are: Motorcycle Roadcraft - The Police Rider's Handbook ISBN 0-11-341143-X Pass your Advanced Motorcycle Test ISBN 1-870979-65-6 Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook ISBN 0-11-340858-7 Pass you Advanced Driving Test ISBN 1-870979-64-8 Roadcraft - An Advanced Driving Course (Video, 90 minutes) ISBN 0-11-341130-8 Advanced System of Motorcycle Control *************************************************************************** * ************ ********* ********* **************** * * Information * Position * * Speed * * Gear * *Acceleration * * * ************ ********* ********* **************** * *************************************************************************** - Advanced Riders have 75% lower accident rate than riders as a whole. - Advanced Riding is not how fast you ride. It is how you ride fast. Job Chithalan, England PC800 SST (Sunny Sussex Transport) (West Sussex Advanced Motorcyclists) (Worthing Group of Advanced Motorists) (Sussex RoSPA Advanced Drivers Association) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: close call Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:41:19 +0100 >>>Joe Randall wrote: "It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time". > >>------------------------------------------------------------- > >Chris Norloff wrote: > >No it wasn't. > > > >It was a case of a motorcyclist riding in a manner that did not > >allow him to escape from a predictable hazard (a car crossing the > >centerline is not unusual). > > > >My sympathies to your son, no one deserves what he must be going > >through. But it's not dumb luck, and it's not fate ... it's going > >too fast for conditions and not allowing yourself an out. ------------------------------ > Lighten up Chris! At least give poor Joe Randall a chance to > recover before you lecture him about safe motorcycling. > > I know you are a MSF safety instructor and what you say about > allowing yourself an out is true, but I sure hope this is not the > type of "cheer up" email message you plan on sending directly to > Joe. > > Tim Davies > > ************************************ >Chris Norloff replied: > Of course I wouldn't want to send that to someone lying hurt at home. But I think the fatalistic approach of "wrong place, wrong time" is a very dangerous attitude. Riding is a matter of skill and judgement, not luck. > > Unless you take the view of "the harder I work the luckier I get" :-) > ----------------------- It is when someone we know has an accident, we need to think more about safety on the roads. As Motorcyclists, we are so vulnerable. Job England ------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Reinhardt, Bob" To: "'cen13504'" Cc: "'PC800'" Subject: RE: PC800: Oil Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:31:57 -0400 I use Mobil 1 15w-50 exclusively. Bob Reinhardt 1995 Pacific Coast (18K) 1986 Interceptor 500 (6K) -----Original Message----- From: cen13504 [mailto:KLW@centuryinter.net] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 11:05 AM To: pc list Subject: PC800: Oil No lonnggg discussions needed. What brand and weight oil are most PC riders using? I prefer a non synthetic. -- Kenneth Winter East TN Walters State Community College 423-626-5063 95 Isuzu Trooper 90 Honda PC "Second Chance" 87 Toyota Mini RV 84 SP 200 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KC2ATQ@aol.com for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:39:04 EDT Subject: PC800: Corbin Saddle To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Once again I am looking for a Corbin saddle for my 96 PC 800. I know its a long shot but it doesn't cost anything to asked. Also Anyone got a OEM radio ?? ha ha ! Hope all are doing well, I have been away on vacation for awhile, with the motorhome No Bike sorry to say. Stay safe JIM T 1996 PC 800 38000 K Givi E460 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:52:53 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: PC800: What's the REAL max. carrying weight? Hi, I know the PC manual specifies a maximum carrying weight, or payload, of about 370 lbs. I also know the dangers of overloading a bike or the tires. That said, how much have folks hauled with a PC? Anybody put 400 lbs. on it? 500 lbs.? thanks, -- Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA '90 Honda Pacific Coast '89 BMW K100LT <--------- FOR SALE '82 Honda CB750F '81 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Will Edwards" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Oil Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:58:45 -0700 I use Mobil 1, 15-50 synthetic. Will Edwards Washington State 96 Honda PC800 Focus your eyes to where you want to be, Not to where you are afraid of falling to.... . -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cen13504 To: pc list Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 8:08 AM Subject: PC800: Oil >No lonnggg discussions needed. What brand and weight oil are most PC >riders using? I prefer a non synthetic. > >-- >Kenneth Winter >East TN >Walters State Community College >423-626-5063 >95 Isuzu Trooper >90 Honda PC "Second Chance" >87 Toyota Mini RV >84 SP 200 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send