********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Nolan N100 Venting The Nolan N100 comes with a yellow label inside the liner telling the wearer (in several languages) not to ride with the front section in the UP position. Well, duh. This label covers up 6 vent holes in the liner. If you carefully cut out the label, you will uncover these six holes and improve the venting capabilities of the helmet. I'm off to glorious Huntsville, Alabama for a computer conference for the rest of the week. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 07:36:08 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Nolan N100 Venting To: libssd@emory.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) libssd@emory.edu writes: >The Nolan N100 comes with a yellow label inside the liner telling >the >wearer (in several languages) not to ride with the front section in >the UP position. Well, duh. This label covers up 6 vent holes in >the >liner. If you carefully cut out the label, you will uncover these >six >holes and improve the venting capabilities of the helmet. > >I'm off to glorious Huntsville, Alabama for a computer conference >for the rest of the week. > >Selden Deemer Thanks Selden, I only had 2 holes covered by my label, but every little bit helps. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:49:49 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: K555 or K177? I just bought a front and a rear K555 Dunlop from Dennis Kirk. Reasonable price and they pay the shipping. I wanted to keep the same performance characteristics I started with because this is only my second ridding season. Rod Carey 94 PC800 (Monica) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:54:27 -0500 Subject: PC800: K555 Follow Up, Dennis Kirk 1-800 328-9280 April 23, 1999 Tires; K555 Dunlop 120/80/17 (front)= # 65-2216 $ 97.99 140/80/15 (rear) = # 65-2276 $ 99.99 Total = $ 197.98 Rod Carey 94 PC800 (Monica) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id JAA20768 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:06:06 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 09:05:30 -0500 Subject: PC800: Nice problem From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 I have created a Frankenstein, but I love it... My wife has taken so much to our weekend rides on the PC800 that she has actually asked about taking a longer, i.e. overnight trip. She also has developed this habit of striking up conversations with Gold Wing owners, admiring how comfortable the passenger seat looks, how much storage there is, and so on. I am in the enviable position of having her blessing to look into "upgrade options." I need advice. 1. I like the PC800. Adding a Corbin seat, rear bag, etc. is a possibility, though pretty expensive. I hesitate to invest in a 5 year old bike which may have been discontinued by Honda. I am also over the rated weight limit with 2 up and full bags - though she seems to run well with all that. But I LIKE my PC. 2. I must admit that I do not find the Gold Wing option appealing. It seems like too bulky and cumbersome, expensive, and - without meaning any criticism of those who love the Gold Wing, it just isn't the right 'look and feel' for me right now. I may come around some day. 3. A guy we met made a convincing case of the ST100 with the Corbin seat, tall windshield, etc. etc. But I LIKE my PC. Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my time will come. What do you think? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson P.S. Did I mention that I LIKE my PC? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:29:05 -0400 From: Janet Spencer To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Rich's wife wants a GoldWing Rich, Okay, so your wife is coveting that passenger seat on the GoldWing. Since it is obvious she's got the riding bug, why not up the ante a little and see if she'd bite for learning to ride her OWN motorcycle? Of course, I'm a strong advocate for the PC800 myself, but with two PC800s you'd have plenty of room between the two of you for all the sundries needed on overnight trips, and your wife would have plenty of comfort and room and wind protection (plus maybe the confidence/thrill/charged self-esteem that comes with controlling her own mount). Plus, being a two-PC800 couple like Arvid & family is just the coolest! Its a Pandora's box, Rich. Either choice may enhance your relationship; both have side-effects which will also affect your relationship (and your wallet!) Just a suggestion... Janet Spencer 1995 PC800 Virginia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id JAA63696 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:40:10 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 09:39:35 -0500 Subject: PC800: My wife wants a GoldWing From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 > Since it is obvious she's got the riding bug, why not up the ante a > little and see if she'd bite for learning to ride her OWN motorcycle? I loved your reply, Janet. Actually, she is signed up to start the MSF course this week. I will see how that goes, and may ask her to consider switching to plan B if she really likes driving. All things considered, she'd probably choose to start with a smaller bike. She is only now now realizing that skill and brains are far more important than brute strength, and going slow is probably wise for her. $PC800 x 2 < $Goldwing x 1 Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Paul and Mary Hughes" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Nice problem Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:14:17 -0500 O.K.! I've got to get in on this one, I usually just sit back and read = the mail that comes for Paul, but I have to put in my two cents on this. We have had = our PC for six years and have riden two-up most of the time. We are both = fairly large people and I must admit I have never wanted a bigger bike. We rode a = Gold Wing once but I was not ready to give up the PC. Just three weeks ago we made a four day, 1300 miles trip into Arkansas = on our '89 PC. It was wonderful, we have two small nylon duffle bags that fit into the = trunks for our clothes, and placed our rainsuits on the bottom. We have the 50 litre = Givi box and it=20 held water, soft drinks, picnic foods, camera, and the stuff we wanted = to get to quickly. We have a have an RKA tank bag for all the overflow. We would to it = again in a minute.=20 After reading the letters about riding at high elevations we have = decided to the trailer=20 the PC to the Rockies next year and see how it performs.=20 I am taking the MSF beginners class this month and looking forward to = riding my own bike someday, a female friend told me "If you like riding with your husband, = you'll LOVE riding=20 alone". Whether or not I decide to get a bike of my own will determind = if we will invest in=20 a larger bike for both of us in the future. Mary W. Hughes "If you=20 like riding with your husband, you'll LOVE riding
alone".  Whether or not I = decide to=20 get a bike of my own will determind if we will invest in
a larger bike for both of us in the=20 future.
 
Mary W. = Hughes
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:41:48 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Rich's wife wants a GoldWing To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Janet writes: << Of course, I'm a strong advocate for the PC800 myself, but with two PC800s you'd have plenty of room between the two of you for all the sundries needed on overnight trips, and your wife would have plenty of comfort and room and wind protection (plus maybe the confidence/thrill/charged self-esteem that comes with controlling her own mount). Plus, being a two-PC800 couple like Arvid & family is just the coolest! >> Right on, Janet. Diane and I have been a two-PC800 couple for 8 years now, and it really is a great way to go (before that were were a Gold Wing and a BMW couple, and that was good too). With two bikes, everyone is more comfortable, has more fun, and can take all the stuff you need for extended road trips. Of course, all of this good stuff comes at a price: the gas and tire mileage is cut in half; you have to pay twice the parking and tolls (except in a few enlightened places); you have to buy, register, maintain and insure two machines; etc. Nonetheless, we have no doubt that the benefits far outweigh the costs. J. T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: New PC800 accessory... To: scpcrc List , pclist It kind of speaks for itself... http://hhd.csun.edu/john/hondabot.jpg _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MLaern@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:36:02 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Nolan Trend, matchng colors? To: dan_masi@mentorg.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dan, If the wineberry is the same color as the wineberry that Honda uses on their Gold Wings then the wineberry would match the closest. I also have a 90 PC and usually see two colors of red in helmets, a bright red, (we used to call fire engine red) and the candy apple red which comes close to the wineberry color used by Honda. Hopes this helps. Marty Aerne 90 Pacific Coast 15000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 09:22:40 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: New PC800 accessory... John La wrote: > > It kind of speaks for itself... > > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/hondabot.jpg Looks liek the 2000 Pacific Coast with the "Transformer" option. :) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EB2YZ7W5; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:04:14 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com, swift24@juno.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:06:22 -0700 Subject: PC800: TGPCPCHY2KTP SURPRISE! It's a voice from the past. I'm still "Off List" so please reply directly. Thanks. TGPCPCHY2KTP: I heard that someone had stepped forward to replace John Louk -- mourner of his late great '90 PC, "Ruby;" sadly John is still having to lick his wounds from his April 10th mishap. I also heard the new organizers were scheduling a trial run this Sept. Is there any truth to these rumors and if so what are the details? CHOICES: I can ride with the crotch-rockets, the folks with whom I did the Coronado Trail last weekend (at supersonic speeds), and trail 'em to Laguna Seca's Super Bike Races near Monterey in July -OR- join the PCer's trial run up the coast .... but not both. *SIGH, GRUMBLE, COMPLAIN* Help me make a decision. Thanks! Ann '89 PC-AZ GHOST-PUZZLE ** Tue. 6.1.99 10:55 MST ** David Smith, of Minerva fame, has the Ghost in a bazillion pieces in his garage while he improves and retrofits her with all sorts of wonderful gadgets and fun schtuff. He's already added two big HONKERS. I can't wait to hit the superslab and REALLY test 'em. (She said filled with glee childish delight.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:24:56 -0700 Jim, The mud flap attaches to the underside of the fender using a self adhesive tape strip and two screws, for which you have to drill two 10mm holes. The kit comes with a paper template to use to locate where the holes are to be drilled. The fender does not need to be removed, as turning the handlebars from lock to lock will give you adequate access for drilling the holes. Double check the template position before drilling!! I installed the mud flap on my bike and it only took about 30-45 minuites, but I was working slowly. Use a mild thread locking fluid (Locktite-purple) or apply some clear silicone (GE Silicone Seal or other silicone base caulking compound) to the screw threads before attaching the screws to prevent vibration loosening them. This is not mentioned in the instructions, but since the screws are polished and chrome plated, they may be a bit difficult to replace should you loose them. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: J. Nyffeler[SMTP:jn20956@navix.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:36 PM > To: PC800 Group > Subject: PC800: Front Mud Flap > > Hi All: > > How does the OEM mud flap attach? Do I need to take the center piece > (fender) off to attach it? My dealer says that it is still available. It > should help keep the lower cowl a little cleaner. > > Thanks: > Jim Nyffeler > nyfty@navix.net > 1989 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: TGPCPCHY2KTP Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:29:14 -0700 Ann, Leland Sheppard (PC800 list) is taking the lead on this. He has setup a web page for ride info, check it at http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: annreid@juno.com[SMTP:annreid@juno.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:06 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Cc: scpcrc@listbot.com; swift24@juno.com > Subject: PC800: TGPCPCHY2KTP > > SURPRISE! It's a voice from the past. I'm still "Off List" so please > reply directly. Thanks. > > TGPCPCHY2KTP: I heard that someone had stepped forward to replace John > Louk -- mourner of his late great '90 PC, "Ruby;" sadly John is still > having to lick his wounds from his April 10th mishap. I also heard the > new organizers were scheduling a trial run this Sept. Is there any truth > to these rumors and if so what are the details? > > CHOICES: I can ride with the crotch-rockets, the folks with whom I did > the Coronado Trail last weekend (at supersonic speeds), and trail 'em to > Laguna Seca's Super Bike Races near Monterey in July -OR- join the PCer's > trial run up the coast .... but not both. *SIGH, GRUMBLE, COMPLAIN* > Help me make a decision. Thanks! > > Ann > '89 PC-AZ GHOST-PUZZLE ** > Tue. 6.1.99 10:55 MST > > ** David Smith, of Minerva fame, has the Ghost in a bazillion pieces in > his garage while he improves and retrofits her with all sorts of > wonderful gadgets and fun schtuff. He's already added two big HONKERS. > I can't wait to hit the superslab and REALLY test 'em. (She said filled > with glee childish delight.) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 306; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:44:42 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:36:51 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: Nice problem >Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my >time will come. What do you think? Stick with what you like. The ST has it's advantages (power, availability of doo-dad add-ons, etc.) but it's no PC. I very much prefer the PC's larger easier to load trunk to the ST's saddlebags. I prefer the no-maintenance hydraulic valve adjusters to the ST's low-maintenance under-the-bucket shims. The PC also feels lighter and much lower (both in in seat height and in center-of-gravity) and gets better fuel mileage. The ST has a more aggressive riding position, but at the same time it is easier to monkey with than the PC. Plus the PC less than half the price of an ST. The only thing you're missing is the "I'm so cool I can rip my passenger off the back seat with the throttle" accelleration of the ST. Get yourself a Givi rack and Maxia 50 box. Not only will your passenger have a surprisingly comfortable backrest (the box) but you'll expand your storage greatly. I wouldn't be surprised if a PC with a Givi Maxia 50 could out-pack a GoldWing. You also might try a taller windshield depending on your height, riding preference. That way you get the storage of a 'Wing, some of the comfort of the 'Wing, but in a more versatile package without all of the clutter and weight. I'd forget about the Givi optional backrest for the Maxia. I got one and took it off because I found that most people found the bare box a more comfortable backrest. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:53:20 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Greg Torok'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Nice problem Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:48:12 -0700 Don't forget about the fuel capacity. Also the electrical system (40 amp) is more capable of adding gadgets and comfort items (larger alternator output). You can get the ABS/TCS option if you desire. I think the rest of it is accurate, although the comment ""I'm so cool I can rip my passenger off the back seat with the throttle" acceleration of the ST" seems to shows a bit of jealousy. More properly stated: The PC had adequate power, the ST has abundant power. Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 6/1/99 11:37 AM, Greg Torok [SMTP:appleseed@thinkapple.com] wrote: > > >Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my > >time will come. What do you think? > > Stick with what you like. The ST has it's advantages (power, availability > of doo-dad add-ons, etc.) but it's no PC. I very much prefer the PC's > larger easier to load trunk to the ST's saddlebags. I prefer the > no-maintenance hydraulic valve adjusters to the ST's low-maintenance > under-the-bucket shims. The PC also feels lighter and much lower (both in > in seat height and in center-of-gravity) and gets better fuel mileage. The > ST has a more aggressive riding position, but at the same time it is easier > to monkey with than the PC. Plus the PC less than half the price of an ST. > The only thing you're missing is the "I'm so cool I can rip my passenger > off the back seat with the throttle" accelleration of the ST. > > Get yourself a Givi rack and Maxia 50 box. Not only will your passenger > have a surprisingly comfortable backrest (the box) but you'll expand your > storage greatly. I wouldn't be surprised if a PC with a Givi Maxia 50 could > out-pack a GoldWing. > > You also might try a taller windshield depending on your height, riding > preference. > > That way you get the storage of a 'Wing, some of the comfort of the 'Wing, > but in a more versatile package without all of the clutter and weight. > > I'd forget about the Givi optional backrest for the Maxia. I got one and > took it off because I found that most people found the bare box a more > comfortable backrest. > > Greg Torok > 97 PC800 > Bellingham, WA > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:54:09 -0400 Subject: PC800: vendor reports PC Glove Box Eight days after placing the order through the PC800 Web Site and dropping my check in the mail (which didn't go out until the next day), I have a black PC800 glovebox in my grubby little hands. I am very pleased with the product and its price. That's very prompt service, considering that it is his policy to wait until receiving and depostiting the check before returning the glovebox. For those of you who don't have one, I'd suggest getting one. It's one-of-a-kind for the PC . . there's just not that many options out there for us, folks. Saeng Edging These guys took the same amount of time . . I ordered 4' of edging last Monday, it arrived today, even with Monday being a holiday. They had a leg up on Neil's response time since they took my credit card over the phone. Still, I think this is good response time. I'll give you a report on how I like the edging later. I have a stock shield. Givi Topcase (Competition Accessories) Last Monday (when I ordered everything else), I ordered the Givi Maxia and all the mounting hardware from Competition Accessories. It all arrived Thursday, only three days later. Alas, they didn't ship the color I ordered. I called them back immediately, and it is now Tuesday and I've yet to hear from them. They also have the nerve to tell me I have to wait until they receive the mis-shipped box before sending me another. In effect, making their problem my problem. I'm tempted to ask for a refund on the box and just order the box from someone else, because I don't have to WAIT on someone else. I would think they'd be willing to ship me another box given the goof they made (the Case was not in a separate box, and it was clearly red, not black, so someone just didn't read the order very well). If they'd just taken the time to put the right color in the box, I'd be giving a glowing report. If they'd go ahead and send me another box (and take as long as they'd like retrieving the wrong one), then that'd be OK too. As it is, they're making me wait on a $200 item that they goofed on. If it were my business, I'd have ther right one shipped immediately on learning of the error, and then take it upon myself to retrieve the mis-shipped item. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:00:40 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'jamesalexander@csi.com'" , "'Greg Torok'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Nice problem Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:55:28 -0700 After reading how that came through, that didn't sound right, I think I should have said, The PC as appropriate power, the ST has abundant power. Adequate seems not to describe the power band on the PC. Appropriate is more descriptive ... There always seems to be enough and a little bit more whenever you need it. The ST always has more even when you think you used it all up. :-) Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 6/1/99 11:48 AM, Jim Alexander [SMTP:jamesalexander@csi.com] wrote: > Don't forget about the fuel capacity. Also the electrical system (40 amp) is > > more capable of adding gadgets and comfort items (larger alternator output). > You can get the ABS/TCS option if you desire. > > I think the rest of it is accurate, although the comment ""I'm so cool I can > rip my passenger off the back seat with the throttle" acceleration of the ST" > > seems to shows a bit of jealousy. More properly stated: The PC had adequate > power, the ST has abundant power. > > Jim Alexander Concord California > '98 ST1100 STar Chaser > HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 > > On 6/1/99 11:37 AM, Greg Torok [SMTP:appleseed@thinkapple.com] wrote: > > > > >Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my > > >time will come. What do you think? > > > > Stick with what you like. The ST has it's advantages (power, availability > > of doo-dad add-ons, etc.) but it's no PC. I very much prefer the PC's > > larger easier to load trunk to the ST's saddlebags. I prefer the > > no-maintenance hydraulic valve adjusters to the ST's low-maintenance > > under-the-bucket shims. The PC also feels lighter and much lower (both in > > in seat height and in center-of-gravity) and gets better fuel mileage. The > > ST has a more aggressive riding position, but at the same time it is easier > > to monkey with than the PC. Plus the PC less than half the price of an ST. > > The only thing you're missing is the "I'm so cool I can rip my passenger > > off the back seat with the throttle" accelleration of the ST. > > > > Get yourself a Givi rack and Maxia 50 box. Not only will your passenger > > have a surprisingly comfortable backrest (the box) but you'll expand your > > storage greatly. I wouldn't be surprised if a PC with a Givi Maxia 50 could > > out-pack a GoldWing. > > > > You also might try a taller windshield depending on your height, riding > > preference. > > > > That way you get the storage of a 'Wing, some of the comfort of the 'Wing, > > but in a more versatile package without all of the clutter and weight. > > > > I'd forget about the Givi optional backrest for the Maxia. I got one and > > took it off because I found that most people found the bare box a more > > comfortable backrest. > > > > Greg Torok > > 97 PC800 > > Bellingham, WA > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id OAA15802 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:26:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:25:38 -0500 Subject: PC800: Weight Limits From: "Rich Gross" To: Greg Torok , pc800 > Get yourself a Givi rack and Maxia 50 box. Not only will your passenger > have a surprisingly comfortable backrest (the box)... I'm looking into that option. I think I am more concerned about weight limits than most everyone else seems to be. Maybe it is from my aviation days, where you NEVER exceed weight or center-of-gravity limits. I don't have my manual handy, but I think the PC800's limit for "payload" is somewhere around 330lbs. With, say, 310 lbs of human, another 25-50 in basic boots-jackets-stuff, it is almost impossible not to exceed that limit for longer trips. Add the extra weight of the GIVI stuff and you are overloaded for almost any trip. So, that sounds like a potential safety issue, if not a mechanical or performance one. Thus my desire to look into a bigger bike. A PC1000 would be perfect - too bad it is not made. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alan Taylor" To: "John La" , "scpcrc List" , "pclist" Subject: PC800: Re: New PC800 accessory... Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:40:05 -0700 > It kind of speaks for itself... > > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/hondabot.jpg > John, Does it come in black to match my 95? and is it for me or a tech droid for combat? alan > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com > Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: FW: last Africa tale Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:55:42 -0400 I believe Ron wanted me to forward this to the list... Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bill Easter [SMTP:billeaster@juno.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:50 PM To: jrandall@tricon.net Subject: Re:last Africa tale Ron Out of Africa! So I thought I should do a bit of a trip 'wrap-up' , as many will wonder how it all turned out, after the accident. Three weeks later, as I sit here at my friend Bill's place in Los Angeles, I am pleased to say that I am mostly all healed. A bit of residual joint soreness, but otherwise I am ready to start my next motorcycle adventure, and meet more SERVAS hosts, as I ride up the West coast to Canada. But first, let's talk about the past three weeks. As I quickly mentioned in the last repast, I stayed at John and Wallis Sullivan for two weeks, in Bulawayo. They were the most considerate and gracious hosts, and after a week, as I was sufficiently mobile, we took an overnight trip to their 'country' home, in Matopas Park. Matopas was a spot I had hoped to visit before the accident, but had not made on my 'first' visit to Bulawayo. Actually there is a story there too, as the reason I did not have the time to get to Matopos earlier was because on the way to Bulawayo I had lost the clothes luggage pack off the back of the bike! And there is a story with that, too, as it happened because I had a front end flat tire, and had hastily re-packed after fixing it! So you see, in a 'karma' scheme of things, the few days leading up to my final accident, things were not looking too good, actually. But that is in the past, so not too dwell on too much is best, I suspect. I do have this recurring scene in my mind, however, of some poor African family sitting around in their rondavell cookhouse one night, trying to divide up the contents of my black bag. "So now, who would like this pair of fluorescent green trackpants from Thailand??!!??" Matopas was pretty fabulous, and the Sullivan "cottage" the icing on the cake. John is an extremely accomplished engineer, and his dwelling , just outside the park boundary, is a real showcase of his design and construction talents. It was built around and encompassing many of the unique round weathered rocks for which the park is world famous. The inside effect is stunning, as you walk around and through these massive sculpted boulders to move from room to room. I just hope my photos do the architecture justice, as I really thought it was the most impressive home design I have seen since touring Frank Lloyd Wright's 'Falling Waters' in Pennsylvania. When we were there, John ad his kids were in a hiking mod, something I w not yet ready fore. So as they went into the bush I sat on the balcony soaking in the fantastic scenery and watching the Black Eagles and yellow-billed Hornbills. Later in the week I got another chance to see Matopas Park as John's brother, Vincent, took me on an overnight camping trip into the park. Matopas is one of only two game parks in Africa where campers are allowed "in the wild", this in spite of having a large Rhino population. Vincent felt that because of the caution due to Rhino poaching fears the wardens keep a close eye on their location, and would move campers if they got close. In any case, our only worry was the group of monkeys that descended on us as the bacon and egg fumes wafted skyward in the morning! On the way out of the park. Vincent decided to show me the scenic 'back' route, which required a bit of weaving and dodging of rocks in places. In fact, at one point I thought we had holed the radiator , but luckily it was just water fro a stream we had forded. As we did not see another car in an hour of driving, I'm not sure how we would have handled a holed radiator! So all in all I did get to see more of the Bulawayo area than I had planned. I did get a visit from SERVAS host Birgit, again, after the accident. I had stayed with her on my first visit to town, and we had spent a great night in the local disco! Unfortunately my total SERVAS visits on the Africa trip stand at only 3, as when the accident happened I was heading to Livingstone, where there are a number of hosts I had hoped to meet. I flew out of Harare to England and a restful week by the seaside in Hastings with old friends Hugh and Gail, ex-SERVAS travelers I had met on the beach in Tonga in 1993! Now I am readying to leave Los Angeles on the Honda VF700F I bought from a email contact. I have been riding it around for a few days and it seems like a great bike. With a new helmet and very tough UK purchased cordura jacket, I hope I will be well prepared for the next accident that never comes!! On Sun, 23 May 1999 21:29:59 -0400 Jim Randall writes: >To Ron, > >Glad you're safe and sound in the USA. You bad luck in S Africa was a >bummer. Enjoy the ride! > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net > >---------- >From: Bill Easter[SMTP:billeaster@juno.com] >Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 3:07 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Ron grant in USA! > >hi guys; > >I made it to LA, long 11 hours daylight flight from Heathrow saturday. >i >have contacted John La re VFR and hope to arrange it and other details >over this week, before setting off north to Canada, i can get messages >here for a while. > >Ron Grant > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Nice problem Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:21:46 -0400 Hi Rich, here's my 2 cents worth... Wind protection - Your passenger will be more comfortable with as much windshield as _you_ can stand. The wind buffeting is much more severe on the back of the bike because of the higher seating position and the fact that the "envelope" begins to close behind the rider. The more you can expand that envelope, the more comfortable she will be. The limit will be how much you like looking through rather than over the windshield. Notice that nearly all GW riders look through the shield - that's one reason they don't get beat up by the wind. Another is that the GW shields have about the same frontal area as a Peterbuilt! Also, there's quite a lot of wind around one's ankles on the PC. This is not a problem if you always wear tall boots; but, when it's cold or wet, I've found that gaiters (x-country skiing/hiking gear) work extremely well to reduce the effect of the wind AND keep your pants dry. Seat - I've heard/read several accounts from other listers that passengers often appreciate an aftermarket seat on the PC more than the pilot since for some the slope of the passenger seat tends to cause the passenger slide forward. You probably already know this, but NEVER use slippery coatings (like Armor All) on your motorcycle seats. If you don't already have one, get a passenger back rest. The Hondaline unit isn't of much value as a "back" rest but it does provide a substantial sense of security since the passenger can't slide off the back of the bike by accident and it doesn't intrude into handling or appearance to any substantial degree. I don't personally favor the top boxes with built in back rest on the PC but some people swear by them. At the risk of incurring flames from the GIVI fans, I really don't want my passenger leaning back against a large back rest since that throws the weight bias even further to the rear of the bike which adversely affects handling. Noise/Communications - I'd also suggest a quiet full face helmet and an intercom system. The intercom will add a great deal of enjoyment for the two of you (assuming you like talking with each other, that is) and reduces the frustration of yelling to communicate. With quiet helmets even inexpensive intercoms like those made by NADY will work OK but you will have to engineer your helmet set up to accept the speaker/mic. You DO want and intercom which has VOX (Voice Operatered X-mit) so that wind and road sounds are not always roaring in your ear. The ST - Everyone I've ever talked to who's ever had experience with both has agreed that the PC provides more passenger comfort than the ST. In fact there are some ST riders who will tell you that's what "PC" stands for. Others, BTW, will tell you it stands for "Pretty Close" but that's another story. Also, the people who suggestted that she ride her OWN bike are right on. My wife's had her own wheels for about two years now and she wouldn't go back to being a passenger for anything. My advice is to start her with something a bit smaller (and less expensive to repair) than the PC. Building confidence on a lighter bike is a good thing and she WILL drop it in the parking lot a few times. Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rich Gross [SMTP:rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:06 AM To: pc800 Subject: PC800: Nice problem I have created a Frankenstein, but I love it... My wife has taken so much to our weekend rides on the PC800 that she has actually asked about taking a longer, i.e. overnight trip. She also has developed this habit of striking up conversations with Gold Wing owners, admiring how comfortable the passenger seat looks, how much storage there is, and so on. I am in the enviable position of having her blessing to look into "upgrade options." I need advice. 1. I like the PC800. Adding a Corbin seat, rear bag, etc. is a possibility, though pretty expensive. I hesitate to invest in a 5 year old bike which may have been discontinued by Honda. I am also over the rated weight limit with 2 up and full bags - though she seems to run well with all that. But I LIKE my PC. 2. I must admit that I do not find the Gold Wing option appealing. It seems like too bulky and cumbersome, expensive, and - without meaning any criticism of those who love the Gold Wing, it just isn't the right 'look and feel' for me right now. I may come around some day. 3. A guy we met made a convincing case of the ST100 with the Corbin seat, tall windshield, etc. etc. But I LIKE my PC. Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my time will come. What do you think? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson P.S. Did I mention that I LIKE my PC? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: FW: PC800: Front Mud Flap Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:04:06 -0400 Folks, it's not a good idea to use Loctite on screws which contact plastic parts. The Loctite will tend to etch the surface of the plastic where contact is made. Silicone sealer works fine though. Jim Randall -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth [SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:25 PM To: 'PC800 List' Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap Jim, The mud flap attaches to the underside of the fender using a self adhesive tape strip and two screws, for which you have to drill two 10mm holes. The kit comes with a paper template to use to locate where the holes are to be drilled. The fender does not need to be removed, as turning the handlebars from lock to lock will give you adequate access for drilling the holes. Double check the template position before drilling!! I installed the mud flap on my bike and it only took about 30-45 minuites, but I was working slowly. Use a mild thread locking fluid (Locktite-purple) or apply some clear silicone (GE Silicone Seal or other silicone base caulking compound) to the screw threads before attaching the screws to prevent vibration loosening them. This is not mentioned in the instructions, but since the screws are polished and chrome plated, they may be a bit difficult to replace should you loose them. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: J. Nyffeler[SMTP:jn20956@navix.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:36 PM > To: PC800 Group > Subject: PC800: Front Mud Flap > > Hi All: > > How does the OEM mud flap attach? Do I need to take the center piece > (fender) off to attach it? My dealer says that it is still available. It > should help keep the lower cowl a little cleaner. > > Thanks: > Jim Nyffeler > nyfty@navix.net > 1989 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:09:16 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: Rich Gross CC: Greg Torok , pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits Rich Gross wrote: > ... > I don't have my manual handy, but I think the PC800's limit for > "payload" is somewhere around 330lbs. With, say, 310 lbs of > human, another 25-50 in basic boots-jackets-stuff, it is almost > impossible not to exceed that limit for longer trips. Add the > extra weight of the GIVI stuff and you are overloaded for almost > any trip. > > So, that sounds like a potential safety issue, if not a > mechanical or performance one. Thus my desire to look into a > bigger bike. A PC1000 would be perfect - too bad it is not made. > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > I've got the manual here - "The combined weight of the rider, passenger, cargo and additional accessories must not exceed 167 kg (369 lbs). Cargo weight alone should not exceed 20 kg (44 lbs)." Steve DeLorey > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:11:00 -0400 Subject: PC800: product review: PC Glovebox Fits great! Looks Great! Minor nits: - I was expecting it to be made of heavier, stiffer material. It's a little saggy looking. I was expecting it to be made out of Jansport Backpack type material. It's thinner than that. Neill shipped it to me in a Priority Mail envelope, and at first I thought he must have shipped a T-shirt or something by mistake because it was much lighter than I expected. - The zippers jingle. Perhaps I wouldn't have heard them without my Saeng Edging installed. I think a Velcro closing would be plenty secure, more accessible, and quieter. Now if I can just remember why it was I needed it in the first place. Guess I'll have to stick a map in there so I don't look like a poseur! Overall, I'd recommend it. It's a cheap, easy accessory for those of us not quite ready to tackle the dual exhaust modification. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:06:15 -0400 Subject: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging I can't say that I notice a big difference with the Saeng Edging. I'm 5'10", and I look over the stock windshield by about two inches. I can lower my neck so that I look just under the edging, and the wind noise virtually vanishes. As it stands, I'll still have to wear earplugs. Looking through the windshield isn't an option for me. As we say, it takes away some from the "motorcycling experience". I will say that I can hear the RPMs of the engine now at speeds from 45-65 mph, whereas I couldn't before, so evidently it has raised the slipstream for me a little bit. I didn't think I would, but I find that I like the looks of it. It is something of a visual obstruction, but only a minor one. So, I guess this is about as good is it is going to get for me, since I'm not willing to look through a windshield. I wonder if a change in helmets would reduce noise? I purchased a Shoei RF-R recently . . is SHOEI knowd for quiet helmets, or are ther better ones out there? Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 369; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:47:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:39:22 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: PC800: Re: Weight Limits >I'm looking into that option. > >I think I am more concerned about weight limits than most >everyone else seems to be. Maybe it is from my aviation days, >where you NEVER exceed weight or center-of-gravity limits. > >I don't have my manual handy, but I think the PC800's limit for >"payload" is somewhere around 330lbs. With, say, 310 lbs of >human, another 25-50 in basic boots-jackets-stuff, it is almost >impossible not to exceed that limit for longer trips. Add the >extra weight of the GIVI stuff and you are overloaded for almost >any trip. Those weight limits are always pitifully low. I'd be curious to see if the limits are much higher even on the bigger bikes (my guess is they're not). Also I don't believe the weight limits have anything to do with engine size. If we all obeyed the letter of those weight limits, I don't think anyone would be camping with their motorcycles without the use of a trailer (which Honda advises against as well). I mean really, my laptop bag probably weighs 12 pounds by itself and along with my lunch maxes out half of the trunk even though that side is only half-full. The stock Honda toolkit alone probably weighs 4 pounds - a full 10% of the trunk's official capacity. I've probably been "overweight" on every tour I've taken and on every bike I've used. I'd also venture to say that the majority of the bikes on tour out there from PC's to Wings to K1200LT's are also overweight. I have been touring for 9 years now and I've probably racked up more than 50,000 miles on various bikes on long tours with everything from 115 MPH highway runs in Montana to climbing dirt logging roads up mountains in search of that perfect camp site. For me "overloading" has never been a problem or a hazard. Of course this also has to do with how you pack (heavy stuff on the bottom, light stuff on top) and what you use for luggage (hardbags vs. bungee cords and trash bags), your level of riding skill, and what you need to do to feel safe. Yes, loading is a safety issue and overloading even more so. But the official weight limits on all the motorcycles I've had are a bit rediculous in real-world use in my opinion. Anyone know the weight limits on the 'Wing's and ST's bags? But that's just my opinion. Use at your own risk. Your mileage may vary. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EB3ARSXY; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:54:24 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:52:30 -0400 Subject: PC800: Draggin' Shirt From: Harvey P Sattin Has anyone bought the "Draggin' Shirt" yet? Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA 90 degrees and humid! '98 PC800, 2200 miles ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 400; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:37:32 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:29:40 -0700 To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com (dwilkers@us.ibm.com), pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging >I wonder if a change in helmets would reduce noise? I purchased a Shoei >RF-R >recently . . is SHOEI knowd for quiet helmets, or are ther better ones out >there? In general SHOEI's are pretty quiet, but I've heard that Arai's are supposedly quieter. Also, the RFR is SHOEI's entry-level helmet, so it might not be as quiet as the more expensive SHOEI's. I've used a RF200 for years now. It was fairly quiet on an unfaired bike, but on the PC the visor has a tendency to rumble. I also think this is because last time I replaced the visor I cheaped-out and got a 3rd party visor. I think the actual SHOEI visor would fit better. I also find that it is much quieter with the visor open an inch or two than with it fully closed. I think that helmet noise varies a lot depending on the bike and rider. The fir of the helmet, height of the windshield, airflow, etc. all come into play, so just because a helmet is said to be quiet doesn't mean it will be quiet on your head or on your bike. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: SPREADTHEM@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:56:04 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: product review: PC Glovebox > Were you kidding or is there a such thing as a dual exhaoust modification? No, someone actually did it. They took the exhaust of a Honda Shadow (750, I think), and made it fit the PC. It actually looks pretty good! Check out the PC800 site. There are pictures of it! Look under the "Pictures" folder and there is a special page dedicated to the dual exhaust modification. I think they even have instructions on how to do it! Here's the link to the main page: http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: AJDOBBS@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:55:42 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: vendor reports >>I am interested in the PC Glovebox.. Where did you get it? It's a cool litte bag. I thought it would block my view of the instrument panel, but it does not. I also thought it would hamper access to the key and choke, but I can still get to both of those without having to move the bag (although I can no longer see them). Check out the PC800 site. It's under the "modifications" folder, if I remember correctly. You can send an advance order online, but you still have to send a check. Here's the link to the main site: http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:09:40 -0400 Subject: PC800: "old style" Givi mounting hardware??? I was looking at the pictures on the PC800 site. There's one on there that is a picture of Roger Prince's with this Givi maxia. The caption reads: "That's the GiVi E50 Maxia on my '95 with the old style mounting hardware.--Roger Prince " The hardware I see in that picture looks just like what I got just last week? What gives? Is there two different sets of Givi hardware for the PC? Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MLaern@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:48:55 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Nice problem To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Rich, The best place to find Utopia is on the regular PC800 web site. Go to "modifications" then "seating" select Utopia, go towards the bottom of the page and ;you will see a list of bikes, select Pacific Coast and you are there, pictures and all. I have had mine for 3 wks. and really like them. Also check out the archives on the list , there's lots of info on Utopia. Good luck!! Marty 90 Pacific Coast 15K Granite City, IL. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 465; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:30:10 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:22:17 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: "old style" Givi mounting hardware??? >What gives? Is there two different sets of Givi hardware for the PC? The first generation of Givi racks for the PC had a tendency to rub a line in the paint on the top sides of the trunk. You can't see it until you take the rack off. Members from the list contacted Givi and they modified the bend of the rack ever so slightly to avoid contact with the trunk lid. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:17:32 -0800 From: jgoula To: Tania , tania , Laura Fenton , Dana Kapla , Cynthia Gulledge , Jay Gulledge , "Estes, Cory S" , Amanda , shanklin@ims.uaf.edu, PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Funny Stuff - Non M/C related >MIT Students Make Giant R2-D2 > >Students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Mass., have turned the college's hallowed dome into a giant version of R2-D2. The students used red, white, black and blue panels of a lightweight fabric to carry out their caper, which was discovered by campus security on the morning of Tuesday, May 18. > >Variety reported that the security guards also found a dozen doughnuts waiting for them, along with instructions on how to disassemble the giant R2 unit. College officials said they plan to leave the prank in place until Thursday, May 20. >source: Sci-fi online. >----------------------------------------------------- > >You might be a redneck Jedi Knight if... > >You ever heard the phrase, "May the force be with y'all." > >Your Jedi robe has camouflage print. > >You have ever used your light saber to open a bottle of Bud Light. > >At least one wing of your X-Wing fighter is primer colored. > >You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok. > >You have ever had a land-speeder up on blocks in your yard. > >The worst part of spending time on Dagobah is the dadgum skeeters. > >Wookies are offended by your B.O. > >You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you didn't have to wait for a commercial. > >You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing or bowling. > >Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over to the dark side...it'll be a hoot." > >You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock thingy to get the barbecue grill to light up. > >You have a confederate flag painted on the hood of your land-speeder. > >You ever fantasized about Princess Leah wearing Daisy Duke shorts. > >You have the doors of your X-wing welded shut and you have to get in through the window. > >Although you had to kill him, you kinda thought that Jabba the Hutt had a pretty good handle on how to treat his women. > >You have a cousin who bears a strong resemblance to Chewbacca. > >You suggested that they outfit the Millennium Falcon with redwood deck. > >You were the only person drinking Jack Daniels during the cantina scene. > >If you hear . . . "Luke, I am your father... and your uncle..." -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:55:01 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: product review: PC Glovebox To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) dwilkers@us.ibm.com writes: >Minor nits: >- I was expecting it to be made of heavier, stiffer material. >It's a little >saggy looking. I was expecting it to be made out of Jansport >Backpack type >material. It's thinner than that. Neill shipped it to me in a >Priority Mail >envelope, and at first I thought he must have shipped a T-shirt or >something by >mistake because it was much lighter than I expected. >- The zippers jingle. Perhaps I wouldn't have heard them without >my Saeng >Edging installed. I think a Velcro closing would be plenty >secure, more >accessible, and quieter. > >Now if I can just remember why it was I needed it in the first >place. Guess >I'll have to stick a map in there so I don't look like a poseur! > >Overall, I'd recommend it. It's a cheap, easy accessory for those >of us not >quite ready to tackle the dual exhaust modification. > >Doug Wilkerson I found it to be less saggy looking if I don't pull the velcro attachment straps too tight. The tighter they are the more is sags in the middle. I think the lighter material helps for those who will use the built in "fanny pack" option. I was thinking about getting some high density foam padding and putting it inside to make it a bit more ridged, maybe in the top. I like the zippers because I can open it with one hand to remove items. I could never do it with velcro. To stop the zippers from rattling I just keep the right zipper pulled around the right corner and use the left zipper across the full front. You can by padded zipper pulls if you want to keep the zipper ends together. I really do use it for my gloves! Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 505; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:03:46 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:55:53 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: RE: PC800: Nice problem >The PC as appropriate power, the ST has abundant power. Adequate seems >not to >describe the power band on the PC. Appropriate is more descriptive ... >There >always seems to be enough and a little bit more whenever you need it. The >ST >always has more even when you think you used it all up. :-) Don't get me wrong, I think the ST1100 is an awesome machine, but for me and I think many others (perhaps more if the PC got better press) the PC is just a better fit. I'll buy the appropriate vs. abundant power comparison but also I think there is a real qualitative difference in the way the PC makes power compared to other bikes that is often overlooked. Before the PC I only rode fours, wouldn't touch a twin with a ten-foot pole. I loved winding up the RPM's, feathering the clutch, finding the edge of a power-slide in a corner, the whole bit (or at least the IDEA of it). Then a friend convinced me to take a ride on the PC. It's smoothness put my Nighthawk 650 inline-four to shame. I remember thinking "This is a Twin?!?" After buying a PC and living with it a while I started to realize that the PC has got to be one of the easiest bikes to ride because of the WAY it makes power. One thing I love to do on the PC is to pull into a parking lot and "idle" around in first gear, no clutch action, closed throttle, at under 1000 RPM's in first gear with the bike rolling at walking speed. It doesn't get any better than that for around-town traffic maneuvering without automatic transmission. Then last year I rode two-up fully loaded for camping on the PC through the western U.S. In Montana we decided to try to take the back-way (from the south) into the ghost town of Garnet which is literally on-top of a mountain. The dirt road was one-lane and was a constant series of switchbacks and REALLY steep hills. At many points I could not let the bike stop or stall on the hill because I would start sliding backwards in the dirt once the tires stopped rolling. The PC's torquey low-RPM V-Twin and low center of gravity made this hill climb a joy. It didn't matter if I was in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, the engine chugged right up the hill (fan purring away) effortlessly. I didn't have to think about what gear I was in after I rounded a switchback or fanning the clutch to get it going up the next section like I did on every other bike I've owned. Plus with the PC I feel I can reasonably use the full capabilities of the machine without winding up in the hospital or jail. So as for the appropriateness of the power of the PC, I think that it has overall the most useful (and appropriate) powerband I've ever had in a motorcycle. Sure it may take some finesse to get the front wheel off the ground from a stand-still, but I find myself idling through tight parking lots and climbing mountain roads far more often than pulling wheelies or 2nd gear burnouts. Plus it still can cruise all day fully-loaded at 105 MPH+ if you have the occasion to. So yeah, the PC has appropriate power and that can be a GOOD thing. Too bad with M/C magazine reviews being what they are and the head-rush society being what it is, few people buy "appropriate" motorcycles anymore. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id UAA47838 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:05:24 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:00:30 -0500 Subject: PC800: Tank bag From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 I am looking for a very small "tank" bag for my PC. It only needs to hold a pair of sunglasses, a cell phone, and a few trinkets. A map window on the outside would be nice. I do not need or want even a 12 liter deal, just a pouch. Say, 9" x 5" or so. Is there any such animal? Could you attach one with velcro or some other device so I didn't have to peel plastic? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:08:09 PDT Doug, I also purchased a Shoei RFR about a month ago and was not impressed with the noise reduction. The wind noise you are getting is coming from the back pressure hitting you in the back of the helmet. Pick a nice smooth section of Road and stand up on the pegs for a couple seconds, quiet as a mouse ! Solve the back pressure problem and you will solve the wind noise problem. Take the Saeng edging off and run the bike up to about 50 or so and hold your hand palm forward just above the top of the windshield, replace the edging and repeat. I think you will find that the edging raises the slip stream about three inches directly behind the edge of the shield and the buffeting is less as you go back and up from there. Before I put on the Saeng the wind hit me right in the eyes and with an open face HJC and glasses, my eyes watered all day. After the Saeng I could wear the open face and feel the wind hitting the lid a good bit above the bill. I also like the looks now and will keep it on as it did raise the slip stream which is why I wanted it anyway. Let me know if you find a way to reduce the back pressure noise without going to a taller shield. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:11:11 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Tank bag To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu writes: >I am looking for a very small "tank" bag for my PC. It only needs >to hold a pair of sunglasses, a cell phone, and a few trinkets. A >map window on the outside would be nice. I do not need or want >even a 12 liter deal, just a pouch. Say, 9" x 5" or so. > >Is there any such animal? Could you attach one with velcro or >some other device so I didn't have to peel plastic? > >Rich >Madison, WI >1994 PC800: Jetson Have you given any thought to Neill Thompson's PC Glovebox? Mine will hold all the things you mentioned, depending on the size of the"trinkets" of course. The map area is not as useful as I would like for a map, but I didn't expect a lot because of the shape. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Greg Torok cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:06:27 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Nice problem Nice comments on the PC's "appropriate" power, Greg! When I went in to buy my first motorcycle, I was intent on a regular cruiser or standard streetbike type. In the showroom, the PC800 stood out like a sore thumb (and not in a good way). The more I thought about it, though, the more I couldn't justify passing up the PC800. The owner of the shop summed it up nicely: he said that the PC800 "makes more sense than anything on two wheels." I wholeheartedly agree. Doug Wilkerson 98 PC 5500 miles (Saeng Edging, PC Glovebox, Mis-matched Givi) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: "Desmond Cockburn" cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:14:57 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging Desmond: Oddly enough, it seems the best thing for back pressure is a passenger. When my girlfriend would ride (er, ex-girlfriend), it was always quieter. I guess the envelope was collapsing on her instead of me! I guess that wasn't so good for her, but I liked it! Aside from the added weight and sluggishness with a second person. I'm wondering if this Givi case will do anything like a passenger would in terms of buffeting some of the back pressure. I understand it won't be like a person (because it's smaller and further back, duh), but I wonder if it will have an effect at all. You're in Atlanta? That's just three hours from here . . .we should get together sometime and ride! Doug Wilkerson 98 PC (Tide Pride Ride) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Weight Limits Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:16:41 -0400 Vehicle weight limits are based on the tire capacities recommended by = the tire manufacturers. IMO the chassis and drivetrain of the PC can = easily handle a bit more. Obvsiously there are design limitations but I = wouldn't hesitate at all to exceed the weight limit by 10 to 15%. You = can attain more load capacity by using Metzler ML2/ML88 tires or by = swapping your rear 140/80 K555 Dunlop for a 140/90 K491. The differences = are approximately: 140/80x15 K555/K177 @ 41psi - 680lbs 140/90x15 K491 @ 41psi - 740lbs 140/90x15 ML88 @ 49psi - 800lbs So, theoretically, you could boost the rear tire load capacity by 120lbs = over the stock tire - that's considerbly more than 15% and I'm not sure = I'd feel good about putting 480lbs on board, but either of these tire = options do add additional reserve capacity if that makes you feel more = comfortable.=20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve DeLorey [SMTP:sdelorey@mo.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 4:09 PM To: Rich Gross Cc: Greg Torok; pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits Rich Gross wrote: > .. > I don't have my manual handy, but I think the PC800's limit for > "payload" is somewhere around 330lbs. With, say, 310 lbs of > human, another 25-50 in basic boots-jackets-stuff, it is almost > impossible not to exceed that limit for longer trips. Add the > extra weight of the GIVI stuff and you are overloaded for almost > any trip. > > So, that sounds like a potential safety issue, if not a > mechanical or performance one. Thus my desire to look into a > bigger bike. A PC1000 would be perfect - too bad it is not made. > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > I've got the manual here - "The combined weight of the rider, passenger, cargo and additional accessories must not exceed 167 kg (369 lbs). Cargo weight alone should not exceed 20 kg (44 lbs)." Steve DeLorey > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of = a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Nice problem Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:26:55 -0400 Greg Torok wrote: >few people buy "appropriate" motorcycles anymore. or anything else for that matter! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: ryan@e-etc.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: PC800: speaking of PC comfort Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:29:17 PDT My wife says that she is very comfy on the back of ours. I notice that the footpegs get in my way when she rides. I think its because of my 29 inch inseam legs. Because of my short legs I am putting my legs right next to the bike -- directly between the front and rear pegs. I didn't have this trouble with other bikes, but I had other comfort problems with those bikes. The PC has wide seats that make it more comfy for riding, harder for short legged people like me to stand. I just try not to stop with both feet down! Short people gotta have strong legs! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id UAA246816 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:47:25 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:42:31 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits From: "Rich Gross" To: Jim Randall , pc800 > 140/80x15 K555/K177 @ 41psi - 680lbs > 140/90x15 K491 @ 41psi - 740lbs > 140/90x15 ML88 @ 49psi - 800lbs So, if I have Metzelers front and rear at 33 and 41 lbs respectively (where I keep them when riding by myself), where does that put the weight limit? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Weight Limits Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:58:40 -0400 It should be proportional. So, for the rear tire I'd estimate the load = capacity at 41 psi to be: 41/49 x 800 =3D 670lbs. Isn't it interesting = that this turns out to be very nearly the same as the load capacity of = the K555 at 41psi.=20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rich Gross [SMTP:rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 9:43 PM To: Jim Randall; pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits > 140/80x15 K555/K177 @ 41psi - 680lbs > 140/90x15 K491 @ 41psi - 740lbs > 140/90x15 ML88 @ 49psi - 800lbs So, if I have Metzelers front and rear at 33 and 41 lbs respectively (where I keep them when riding by myself), where does that put the weight limit? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:59:27 +1200 To: PC800 Rider From: Richard Proctor Subject: PC800: Givi top case?? OK, OK, which is the way to go, Maxima or E46. Maxima is bigger, E46 has brakelight option. Which looks better or rather suits the bike better. Richard Proctor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire mounted backwards Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:09:15 PDT Mounted a tire BACKWARDS? Coudn't figure out how to balance it? Good God take it back to these morons, make them remove the tire, get a refund, then (just to make a point) TRUCK IT TO ANY OTHER motorcycle dealer who will put tires on it! NEVER go to that Honda dealer again! Call Honda and the tire company and tell them about this screwup. If that is your only Honda dealer try one who isn't. I'll bet the nearest non-Honda, non-Harley dealer is getting LOTS of Hondas for service because of this kind of crap. My PC sees a non-Honda dealer all the time because they have good mechanics who know bikes and a good parts department who can get Honda parts. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chris Barrett" To: "Pc800" Subject: PC800: For Sale: 1998 PC800 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:13:17 -0400 Importance: Normal Dear Listers, After much debate I've decided to sell my trusty PC 800. Details are listed below.... 1998 Pacific Coast -Excellent condition, kept garaged until recently. Runs perfect. -Red -6600 Miles -Stock tires in excellent condition. -Maintained by dealer - oil has been changed 3 times. - Includes the following accessories: 1. Saeng Stealth Edging 2. GiVi Maxia 50-liter storage box (color matched to PC) w/backrest 3. Throttlemeister throttle lock 4. Hondaline "Tall" windshield (approx. +4 inches over stock, I think) 5. Trunk lighting kit. Basically, everything you need for around town or coast to coast travel. I am located in Columbus, Ohio. I will consider a "delivery" to any of the adjacent states (WV, PA, KY, MI, IN) Asking $6500.00 - SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY!! If interested, please contact me via E-mail ONLY. I will be happy to arrange test rides on weekends. Before anyone asks, no, I will not sell the accessories separately. Chris Barrett e-mail = cbarrett@ocsea.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:12:26 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: Rich Gross CC: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Nice problem Rich, At the risk of sounding crass, may I suggest you check out the BMW K1200LT. It looks, sounds, rides, and maintains like a PC, only with tons more storage. And a heated Passenger seat! And I love my PC, too. And my wife REALLY loves her Helix. Rides it everywhere. Talk about creating a monster.... --Ralph Rich Gross wrote: > > > Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my > time will come. What do you think? > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > > P.S. Did I mention that I LIKE my PC? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id VAA190516 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:13:19 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:08:26 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 >> 140/80x15 K555/K177 @ 41psi - 680lbs >> 140/90x15 K491 @ 41psi - 740lbs >> 140/90x15 ML88 @ 49psi - 800lbs > > So, if I have Metzelers front and rear at 33 and 41 lbs > respectively (where I keep them when riding by myself), where > does that put the weight limit? Oops - just answered my own question - I have the 140/80s on the rear. 680 lbs it is - not far from the original specs. rich -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2.1b3); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:27:20 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Nolan N100 Venting Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:27:54 -0400 From: To: "PC 800 List" Selden Deemer, libssd@emory.edu writes: >This label covers up 6 vent holes in the >liner. If you carefully cut out the label, you will uncover these six >holes and improve the venting capabilities of the helmet. It was only covering 2 complete holes and half of 2 others in mine, but thanks for the tip just the same. "The whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century is being deployed to enable wealth to persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power." Aneurin Bevan, British Labour leader -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Richard Proctor cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:18:23 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top case?? The Maxia also has a brakelight option, it's just not as integrated. Go with the Maxia. I haven't seen the smaller case, but I like the proportions of the Maxia. The PC's back end is big . . . a bigger case, I think, offsets it a little. The size of the reflective strip on the Maxia is nicely proportional as well. If you're ordering from Computer Associates, be careful. They sent me the wrong color. Doug Wilkerson I/T Specialist, IBM Digital Manufacturing Solutions Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:31:14 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: Greg Torok CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Weight Limits Greg Torok wrote: >I think I am more concerned about weight limits than most > >everyone else seems to be. Maybe it is from my aviation days, > >where you NEVER exceed weight or center-of-gravity limits. > > Without embarrassing either one of us, I'll say that when my wife and I ride two-up, the bike is carrying about 440 lbs. Without complaint. Which is more than I can say for my passenger. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:32:22 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Richard Proctor CC: PC800 Rider Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top case?? Richard Proctor wrote: > OK, OK, which is the way to go, Maxima or E46. Maxima is bigger, E46 has > brakelight option. > > Which looks better or rather suits the bike better. The only one that knows that is YOU. I like the 46. It is swoopier. :-} I like the brake light. But a neat add on LED brake light wing thingy is available from GIVI that looks really cool. You could stick it on a 50 or even a bike without a bag. See if you can find a picture in the catalog at a dealer. I think it is only about $20. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: bjpc800@netzero.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:Safety-Helmets Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:45:30 PDT >How far will you ride w/out your helmet? >>Bill Jackman >bjpc800@netzero.netp >89PC800~25k I NEVER EVER ride without a helmet. Regardless of the law or the heat. Its stupid. The only time I've fallen was on a short trip -- from the gas station to home. Less than 200 yards! My old CBC-650 stalled. My helmet shield was a scratched up mess. I was not. But it taught me that "shit" can happen at any time. If the trip is too short to put on the right stuff, then take the car or get on a bicycle. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EB3WWDGL; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:46:26 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:51:23 -0500 Subject: PC800: A listserver lurker says hello and then fades away again. From: Christopher J Russell Hey there, Pacific Coast list members...I'm an onld member who occasionally stops by the PC800 web page (nicely redone, by the way) by whomever took the time to do it. Anyway, I just wanted to stop by and to say hello--although the names I am used to seeing are now very seldom there! My 96 PC just turned 21,000 miles, and it has been just about the ideal bike. I remember purchasing it in May of 96...and then having a car run into the bike in a parking lot the following August. Even after "the crash," the bike has performed flawlessly. I have to admit that I'm still somewhat perplexed at the bike's attraction of negative remarks (humorous or otherwise, such as MCN's top ten list), espcially when BMW goes and releases a bike that basically looks (and acts) like a PC on steroids (probably a past topic of discussion on the list server). The PC will probably never come to the USA again, and even the ST1100 looks like it is in need of a "freshening up" by Honda, when compared to the competition. My mods have been pretty typical, and minor in extent. I have a Rifle windshield (tallest available), Corbin seat, and Throttlemeiser hand grips. My most recent acquisition was a Aerostich Unobtanium Electric Vest, which has revolutionized riding the motorcycle in April Minnesota weather. On a 750 mile round-trip visit to my folks in Wisconsin this weekend, I went through just about every climate condition possible...from 85 and sunny to 55 and drizzling! Over time, I've learned how to pack so that I am comfortable in just about anything. The PC has gone just about everywhere...including Sturgis. This summer, I plan to hit both coasts (Portland area and North Carolina). We'll see how everything pans out. My heart is beginning to long after larger touring bikes, such as the Valkyrie Interstate--and I will likely bite that bullet next year. The PC will remain...it's too useful of a bike to let go, and plus the resale value of the thing, even with the toys, is probably under $5000 (I won't even think about the fact that I paid about $8,000 for it in 96--a good price at the time). Anyway, just wanted to say hello...and Bob, if you're out there in Wisconsin, drop me an e-mail...I never had a chance to e-mail you back the last time as my computer crashed, taking everything with it. Best of luck, and many happy miles of riding! Chris Russell Cottage Grove, Minnesota 96 PC800T 21,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:10:17 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Thoughts on Touring in summer All, I am planning on taking my 89 on an extended tour this summer (3-4k miles over 3-4 weeks) along with my new Spartan (backpacker) cargo trailer. What I am wondering, is how you all have, and would prepare for such an extended trip. I am especially interested in what you would pack for camping, and for dealing with the heat. I am located in South Texas, and will be heading for the Rockies (mostly Colorado), so ANY recommendation on how to keep cool would be very helpful (is silk underwear still the thing??). My bike is always maintained by the dealer, but should I tell them what I have planned and ask if there are certain things they should check they normally would not? What do you recommend taking in the way of an emergency kit for on the road repairs? Thanks for any suggestions! JPatton 89 PC800 94 Shadow VT1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:21:24 +1200 To: PC800 Rider From: Richard Proctor Subject: PC800: Helmet choice - Nolan or no I had pretty much decided on a Nolan N100 based on the good reports on this list. However I find the chin strap uncomfortable. My last helmet, (bought 30 years ago!) was a Bell and had a chin cup, which I liked a lot. I got the impression that I couldn't put a chin cup on a Nolan. Any suggestions on a solution?? Richard Proctor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 06:28:59 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Thoughts on Touring in summer To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I'd recommend taking along a list of phone numbers and addresses of fellow Pacific Coasters on this list who live along your projected route. Sounds like a great time to meet some of them face to face and I'm sure they would love to ride along with you for a while. Like everything else on this list, ask and you shall receive! If New York was on your agenda I'd be available. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com writes: >All, > >I am planning on taking my 89 on an extended tour this summer >(3-4k miles >over 3-4 weeks) along with my new Spartan (backpacker) cargo >trailer. >What I am wondering, is how you all have, and would prepare for >such an >extended trip. I am especially interested in what you would pack >for >camping, and for dealing with the heat. I am located in South >Texas, and >will be heading for the Rockies (mostly Colorado), so ANY >recommendation on >how to keep cool would be very helpful (is silk underwear still >the thing??). >My bike is always maintained by the dealer, but should I tell them >what I >have planned and ask if there are certain things they should check >they >normally would not? >What do you recommend taking in the way of an emergency kit for on >the road >repairs? > >Thanks for any suggestions! > >JPatton >89 PC800 >94 Shadow VT1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 06:33:29 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet choice - Nolan or no To: rproctor@clear.net.nz Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rproctor@clear.net.nz writes: >I had pretty much decided on a Nolan N100 based on the good >reports on this >list. However I find the chin strap uncomfortable. > >My last helmet, (bought 30 years ago!) was a Bell and had a chin >cup, which >I liked a lot. I got the impression that I couldn't put a chin cup >on a >Nolan. > >Any suggestions on a solution?? > >Richard Proctor Maybe I've been living in a cave for my past 33 years of riding, but I haven't seen a chin cup in almost that long. The last helmet I had with one was a shorty that I bought with my first motorcycle, a Honda Super Sport 90. 90cc's of raw power:-) Maybe those still have them. The Nolan N100, which I have, has a quick release buckle like so many do now and I see now way to retrofit a chin cup to it. I don't find this an uncomfortable strap. I've had some that cut across my throat to the point of almost gaging me. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 06:37:25 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top case?? To: rproctor@clear.net.nz Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rproctor@clear.net.nz writes: >OK, OK, which is the way to go, Maxima or E46. Maxima is bigger, >E46 has >brakelight option. > >Which looks better or rather suits the bike better. > >Richard Proctor If you are planning on installing a brake light, I would make sure the add on brake light for the Maxia is the same quick connect version as the one on the E46. I have the E46 and there are no wires to connect when you put on the case. Two metal contacts on the bag touch two metal contacts on the rack as you attach the case. Couldn't be easier! There is a little plastic cover which snaps on the rack contacts to protect them when the trunk is not on. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Rich Gross" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Nice problem Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:59:58 -0400 I think if your wife likes the Goldwing you're going to end up with one, so don't put a lot of money in your PC trying to make it Goldwing. I envy you, my wife won't ride, period. She dosent mind if I do, and dosen't complain when I take off for two or three weeks for a tour. Her fear of riding is verging on Phobic. How I would love for her to enjoy the sport with me. Have you rode a Wing? I think you may be supprised in it's agility and comfort. No it won't handle like your PC, but neither will your PC when it's loaded and has two people on it. Count your blessings, and go with the flow. Mike Whited '94 PC Columbus OH PS. A friend has a ST1000 and loves it. His girlfriend wasn't comfortable enough on it to travel so she went in halves on a new Wing. Now he has both bikes. He loves his ST and when we tour together he rides it, but he has nothing but praise for his Wing too. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rich Gross To: pc800 Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:06 AM Subject: PC800: Nice problem >I have created a Frankenstein, but I love it... > >My wife has taken so much to our weekend rides on the PC800 that >she has actually asked about taking a longer, i.e. overnight >trip. She also has developed this habit of striking up >conversations with Gold Wing owners, admiring how comfortable the >passenger seat looks, how much storage there is, and so on. > >I am in the enviable position of having her blessing to look into >"upgrade options." I need advice. > >1. I like the PC800. Adding a Corbin seat, rear bag, etc. is a >possibility, though pretty expensive. I hesitate to invest in a 5 >year old bike which may have been discontinued by Honda. I am >also over the rated weight limit with 2 up and full bags - though >she seems to run well with all that. But I LIKE my PC. > >2. I must admit that I do not find the Gold Wing option >appealing. It seems like too bulky and cumbersome, expensive, and >- without meaning any criticism of those who love the Gold Wing, >it just isn't the right 'look and feel' for me right now. I may >come around some day. > >3. A guy we met made a convincing case of the ST100 with the >Corbin seat, tall windshield, etc. etc. But I LIKE my PC. > >Anyhow, I probably won't make any decisions right away, but my >time will come. What do you think? > >Rich >Madison, WI >1994 PC800: Jetson > >P.S. Did I mention that I LIKE my PC? > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:34:40 -0700 (PDT) To: sdelorey@mo.net (Steve DeLorey) Cc: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu (Rich Gross), appleseed@thinkapple.com (Greg Torok), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits 15:09:16 -0500 --WebTV-Mail-1438604256-155 The additional weight of the + 200 cc engine would probably eat up the carrying capacity of the PC :-) Jerry --WebTV-Mail-1438604256-155 postoffice-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:10:08 -0700 mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id NAA09351; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:10:07 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAC24034; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:10:07 -0500 (CDT) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27032 for ; with ESMTP id PAA12342; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:12:02 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:09:16 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: Rich Gross CC: Greg Torok , pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits Rich Gross wrote: > ... > I don't have my manual handy, but I think the PC800's limit for > "payload" is somewhere around 330lbs. With, say, 310 lbs of > human, another 25-50 in basic boots-jackets-stuff, it is almost > impossible not to exceed that limit for longer trips. Add the > extra weight of the GIVI stuff and you are overloaded for almost > any trip. > > So, that sounds like a potential safety issue, if not a > mechanical or performance one. Thus my desire to look into a > bigger bike. A PC1000 would be perfect - too bad it is not made. > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > I've got the manual here - "The combined weight of the rider, passenger, cargo and additional accessories must not exceed 167 kg (369 lbs). Cargo weight alone should not exceed 20 kg (44 lbs)." Steve DeLorey > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1438604256-155-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:36:32 -0700 (PDT) To: ka2wij@earthlink.net (Alan Taylor) Cc: johnla@yahoo.com (John La), scpcrc@listbot.com (scpcrc List), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pclist) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: New PC800 accessory... --WebTV-Mail-1480995344-160 WHAT? Have we found the Honda approved means of camera transport? --WebTV-Mail-1480995344-160 postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:56:10 -0700 mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id MAA18107; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:56:09 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAC23954; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:56:08 -0500 (CDT) OAA26774 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:55:57 -0500 (CDT) SMTP id MAA20578; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:54:56 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alan Taylor" To: "John La" , "scpcrc List" , "pclist" Subject: PC800: Re: New PC800 accessory... Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:40:05 -0700 > It kind of speaks for itself... > > http://hhd.csun.edu/john/hondabot.jpg > John, Does it come in black to match my 95? and is it for me or a tech droid for combat? alan > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to scpcrc-unsubscribe@listbot.com > Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1480995344-160-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by land.willinet.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 07:55:45 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:01:28 -0500 From: Ryan To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet choice - Nolan or no Which Nolan N100 did you try, the classic or the trend? The more expensive Classic helmet has a leather chin strap pad, which I find much more UNcomfortable than the padded fabric on on the cheaper Trend helmet. Ryan Richard Proctor wrote: > > I had pretty much decided on a Nolan N100 based on the good reports on this > list. However I find the chin strap uncomfortable. > > My last helmet, (bought 30 years ago!) was a Bell and had a chin cup, which > I liked a lot. I got the impression that I couldn't put a chin cup on a > Nolan. > > Any suggestions on a solution?? > > Richard Proctor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Grand Touring Bag for PC800 (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:15:08 -0700 From: Dave Thomas To: Selden Deemer Cc: Joyce D Calvert Subject: Re: Grand Touring Bag for PC800 Selden, Thanks for the suggestion. We just got back from a BMW rally here in Northern California, which was also attended by a few PC800s. That gave us a chance to look at how we might build a bag to fit your bike. You are right about the grab rails, they do present a constraint but I think its something we can work around. Putting together a new bag is always challenging and something we have always enjoyed working on together. Our problem is timing. Summers are always our busy season, so we try to limit to fall and winter for new projects. If anyone in your organization had the time to ride up to our shop with their PC, we would be happy to measure it up and come up with a prototype later this year. Best Regards, Dave Thomas Selden Deemer wrote: > Hello, > > A member of the Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) list, Joyce Calvert, > mentioned your bags, and a quick search turned up the "Mag's Bags > web site. > > Have you considered developing a "grand touring" bag for the PC800? > The passenger grab rails impose some constraints for the side parts, > but a U-bag of this sort seems a natural for the PC. I just took some > measurements, and it looks like the overall width would be 24", with > the side arms 4" wide, and 6" high, with the rear section 6 to 8" > high and deep. Ideally, the bottom of the rear section would be notched > to fit over the "ducktail" behind the seat on the PC trunk. A rough > calculation suggests that capacity would be 1500-2000 cubic inches, > which is probably plenty, given the already capacious trunk of the > PC800. > > If a PC800 list member (obviously not me, since I live in Georgia) > were to bring a PC to your shop for measurements, what would be the > minimum number of orders you would need from the list to make this > a viable project? Although Honda stopped making the PC800 with the > 1998 model year, there are tens of thousands of them on the road, > and they seem to last forever. I think there is a potential market > for a piece of luggage like this, which I find much more attractive > than a top case, such as a Givi box. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 > Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 > Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: libssd@emory.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:22:10 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: three digit key codes I never got a master key with my first PC, and I wanted a spare, so after being rejected by the key duplicating shop (no blanks) I took it in to the dealer, and their key guy LOOKED at it and guessed the code, and cut me a new key. I was impressed. I wrote the code on my receipt for the bike and kept it on file. Imagine losing your key, calling home for the code, going to a Honda dealer and being back on the road a few minutes later. -dan -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits To: Rich Gross , PC800 List There was a thread a while back about exceeding limits and we found out a lot of us do regularly. One suggestion I had was to run the Metzeler tires which have a higher load capacity than the Dunlops by about 100 pounds. I didn't suggest that that alone increased the bikes GVWR but it helps. A few people disagreed stating that the frame, rims and everything combined would have to be beefed up. However, in a recent MCN letter, a subscriber questioned the weight limits on bikes and how manufacturers come up with them. MCN's response was that there are a lot of factors including the frame, rims and legal liability. But they then stated that the single biggest factor limiting a bike's GVWR are its tires. They said that when you consider how much weight must be carried on those two tiny contact patches it's amazing. So if the tires are the biggest factor, then switching to the Metzelers should help a lot. Just my two cents. --- Rich Gross wrote: > > I think I am more concerned about weight limits than most > everyone else seems to be. Maybe it is from my aviation days, > where you NEVER exceed weight or center-of-gravity limits. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id KAA44362 (8.9.1/50); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:12:03 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:11:27 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 > MCN's response was that there are a > lot of factors including the frame, rims and legal liability. But they > then stated that the single biggest factor limiting a bike's GVWR are > its tires. That may be the case mechanically, but I wonder about performance issues. Added weight in the form of a human raises the center of gravity and sends it aft. Both of these will affect performance. While this may not be a factor in routine riding, a sudden stop or turn might cause the bike to behave differently from what you expect. I for one plan to keep within 10% of the weight restriction. I also plan to do at least some parking lot work with my passenger on board and some weights in the trunk; quick stops, a few 10-15mph counter-steering avoidance swerves, etc. I guess I am conservative in this regard, but it seems that weight is not just an issue of whether it will break the bike, but how it will behave. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:16:58 EDT Subject: PC800: The PC and Others To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu There has been a lot of comments about the attributes and capabilities of the Pacific Coast on the list over the last few days. I have a 1994 PC. It is equipped with a Corbin Saddle, Rifle (20") Wind Screen, GiVi Top Case and a Throttle Meister. My PC is an excellent light touring machine. There are few bikes as quiet or smooth as the PC. It will run all day, carrying two, in high double digits on regular gasoline. It is almost maintenance free. But, the PC is a light touring bike it does not offer the amenities nor the comfort of a full dresser. (The PC is a compromise between a bike that can run easily to the grocery store or cross the Continental Divide.) Nothing on two wheels will run, horizon to horizon, as comfortable as a Gold Wing. The Gold Wing is so comfortable, it comes close to boring. The Gold Wing is a chore in city traffic, but the only thing a Gold Wings passenger will ask while going down the interstate is to "turn down the air conditioning." The Voyager is another excellent full dress touring machine. It is more top heavy than the Gold Wing and looks old when new. The newly introduced BMW 1200LT is a full dress dresser that can cut canyons like a sports tourer. My problems with the 1200LT is its high cost of maintenance coupled with the umbilical cord between the bike and the dealer. I like the appearance of the Triumph Trophy. But, I have a question regarding British reliability, and I don't want anymore chain drives. There is the Yamaha Venture. I don't like retro cruisers. I am not the cruiser type. But anyone who want to experience what a true long distance runner should feel like, take a test ride on the Venture. I wish it had self adjusting valves. Bernie 94 PC 52 K Overland Park, KS -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 29; Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:47:30 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:39:31 -0700 To: BernieK469@aol.com (BernieK469@aol.com), pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: The PC and Others >My PC is an excellent light touring machine. There are >few bikes as quiet or smooth as the PC. It will run all day, carrying >two, >in high double digits on regular gasoline. It is almost maintenance free. > >But, the PC is a light touring bike it does not offer the amenities nor >the >comfort of a full dresser. (The PC is a compromise between a bike that can >run easily to the grocery store or cross the Continental Divide.) > >Nothing on two wheels will run, horizon to horizon, as comfortable as a >Gold >Wing. The Gold Wing is so comfortable, it comes close to boring. The >Gold >Wing is a chore in city traffic, but the only thing a Gold Wings passenger >will ask while going down >the interstate is to "turn down the air conditioning." Good assessment. I really like the PC's niche because of the versatility of the bike. I do quite a bit of touring both short and long-range and I've been able to take the PC places I wouldn't even consider taking a GoldWing (dirt roads, back roads, the Cassiar Highway), plus it's a perfect commuter during the week. I guess the bottom line is if you look at any one category, something always looks better than the PC: The ST is faster... The GoldWing is more comfortable... The Valkyrie looks nice... The Shadow has a lower seat height... The BMW has a blue and white bow-tie logo... The Nighthawk 750 is cheaper... A scooter gets better fuel mileage... A station wagon has more storage... But if you are looking for a bike that does a little bit of everything really well, the PC really starts looking good. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: The PC and Others To: Greg Torok Cc: PC800 --- Greg Torok wrote: > But if you are looking for a bike that does a little > bit of everything > really well, the PC really starts looking good. > > Greg Torok > 97 PC800 > Bellingham, WA It's name should be Jack. Jack of all trades, master at none. === Later Roger R Chaska, MN _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:02:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jruby@gci.net (josephine ruby) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The PC and Others Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:02:22 -0800 I totally agree to what everyone has said about the PC. Unfortunately, I had come the conclusion that for comfort's sake I need to look at other options. I decided to buy a Valkyrie tourer, drove it off the ferry Sunday morning. Boy, is it BIG! But I am a big girl, and I was having difficulty being comfortable on the PC. Not enough room in the seating area to move about and with my knee surgery last year I needed more room. I have always like the Valkyrie, looked at the Wing on and off thru the years but just wasn't there for me. I am going to have a blast with this bike...I can buy a whole lot of doo dads for it (already have some on order). Think I'll keep the PC for now, still love the looks of it and the way it handles. But I want to be comfortable when traveling. Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska 1994 PC 800 1997 Valkyrie Tourer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits To: Rich Gross , Jim Randall , pc800 Don't use the tire pressures recommended by Honda if you are running the Metzelers. Metzeler recommends front at 36 psi and rear at 44 psi for the PC800 for their ML2 and ML2+. They also list other setting for touring for bikes over 750cc riding solo, riding 2 up light and 2 up loaded. Get a copy of their catalog. It has all the info in it. I'm not sure if the newer Metzeler is the same. --- Rich Gross wrote: > > 140/80x15 K555/K177 @ 41psi - 680lbs > > 140/90x15 K491 @ 41psi - 740lbs > > 140/90x15 ML88 @ 49psi - 800lbs > > So, if I have Metzelers front and rear at 33 and 41 lbs > respectively (where I keep them when riding by myself), where > does that put the weight limit? > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:56:52 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Thoughts on Touring in summer J, Your talking about two summer time extremes -Texas and the Colorado mountains. For the Texas heat, I'd recommend water, - soak your tee shirt or your jeans jacket and wear it wet. During the day in Colorado, you will be comfortable in a jeans jacket at the lower elevation but may need something else at higher elevations. Vest, sweater, leather jacket. At night, since your camping, be sure to bring a warm sleeping bag or extra blanket. The temperature can get into the low forties even during July and August. Steve DeLorey jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com wrote: > All, > > I am planning on taking my 89 on an extended tour this summer (3-4k miles > over 3-4 weeks) along with my new Spartan (backpacker) cargo trailer. > What I am wondering, is how you all have, and would prepare for such an > extended trip. I am especially interested in what you would pack for > camping, and for dealing with the heat. I am located in South Texas, and > will be heading for the Rockies (mostly Colorado), so ANY recommendation on > how to keep cool would be very helpful (is silk underwear still the thing??). > My bike is always maintained by the dealer, but should I tell them what I > have planned and ask if there are certain things they should check they > normally would not? > What do you recommend taking in the way of an emergency kit for on the road > repairs? > > Thanks for any suggestions! > > JPatton > 89 PC800 > 94 Shadow VT1100 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:00:37 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: The PC and Others To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) jruby@gci.net writes: > >I am going to have a blast with this bike...I can buy a whole lot >of doo >dads for it (already have some on order). > >Jo Ruby >Juneau, Alaska >1994 PC 800 >1997 Valkyrie Tourer This is the second time today I've read a statement like this, or some variation of it, to the effect that you can't buy add on goodies for the Pacific Coast. Boy oh boy my bank account wishes that were even remotely true! I've had mine for 10 months and put $1,720 worth of extras on it and I am still planning on buying a few more things at Americade next week. This doesn't even count the $1,100 I spent on a heated riding suit because I could use that on any other bike. There are times when I wish it was really true that there is not much out there to buy for a Pacific Coast. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top case?? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:24:39 -0400 Richard; Tim's comment about the contacts was a major factor in me wanting the E460. Elton Hammond 97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: rproctor@clear.net.nz Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: June 02, 1999 6:38 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Givi top case?? >rproctor@clear.net.nz writes: >>OK, OK, which is the way to go, Maxima or E46. Maxima is bigger, >>E46 has >>brakelight option. >> >>Which looks better or rather suits the bike better. >> >>Richard Proctor > > >If you are planning on installing a brake light, I would make sure >the add on brake light for the Maxia is the same quick connect >version as the one on the E46. I have the E46 and there are no >wires to connect when you put on the case. Two metal contacts on >the bag touch two metal contacts on the rack as you attach the >case. Couldn't be easier! There is a little plastic cover which >snaps on the rack contacts to protect them when the trunk is not on. > >Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:09:58 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jruby@gci.net (josephine ruby) To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: The PC and Others Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:09:58 -0800 I have spent my fair share on my PC, also. Goodies to date: GIVI 50 liter case w/ rack, Neil's handlebar bag, Utopia backrest, Saeng windshield edging, CB radio/walkman music setup (homemade setup by a friend) and Vista Cruise throttle lock. I was also prepared to install highway pegs, possibly a new seat either by Corbin or Russell and raise the handlebars a little. My concern was after maybe spending all this money to do the above mods, I still would not be comfortable. That is why I bought the Valk. pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) wrote: >This is the second time today I've read a statement like this, or >some variation of it, to the effect that you can't buy add on >goodies for the Pacific Coast. Boy oh boy my bank account wishes >that were even remotely true! I've had mine for 10 months and put >$1,720 worth of extras on it and I am still planning on buying a >few more things at Americade next week. This doesn't even count the >$1,100 I spent on a heated riding suit because I could use that on >any other bike. > >There are times when I wish it was really true that there is not >much out there to buy for a Pacific Coast. > >Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 >HRCA #HM100878 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EB5S4GRX; Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:18:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:15:10 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: New PC800 accessory... From: Joyce D Calvert Hi folks, On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:36:32 -0700 (PDT) kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) writes: >WHAT? Have we found the Honda approved means of camera transport? > This site, for some reason, I was unable to access. I double checked it (well, triple and fourthle, whatever) and still can't get in. I wanna see it too! Can anybody help? Joyce Sonoma County, Ca -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EB5S4GSR; Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:18:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dthomas@magsbags.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:23:17 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Grand Touring Bag for PC800 From: Joyce D Calvert Hi Dave, Margo! Joyce Calvert here. I would be willing to make another trip to Sonora for you to measure my PC. I told Selden that perhaps your memory and what measurements you have for our duffles would suffice, no? Maybe not. Did you guys go to the rally in Auburn? Got a couple of friends who just returned and said the weather was GREAT! It was crummy here in the Bay Area all weekend. Give me a good idea of when to come back to Sonora for measurments. I'll have to plan ahead on this one. Last time was a last minute thing. Will I be getting my bag pretty soon? Talk to you later, Joyce Calvert Rohnert Park, Ca Selden, How big of a hurry are you in? Looks like late summer before Dave and Margo will fashion a new design, but the ride there is nice and I would be glad to go when my schedule allows. Let me know. Joyce -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vartan Kazarov" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: For Sale: Rifle 30" windsield - half price Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:49:11 PDT Folks, I still have tallest Rifle windshield for sale. I came down in price to $100 + shipping. Let me know if you are interested Vartan -- Vartan Kazarov 98PC800 "Red October" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:53:46 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Nolan Trend, matchng colors? I personally prefer the Candy Red that Shoei uses... It matches! No problem! And the Shoei (in my opinion) is much more comfortable. I tried the Nolan, but the Shoei fit (my head) SO much better. R. Fenwick 1990 PC800 - 17,500 miles fenwick@nn.com At 03:57 PM 5/31/99 -0400, Dan Masi wrote: > >I know we just had a thread about the Nolan Trend helmets, >but... > >The helmet comes in two versions of "red". There's just >plain red, and there's "wineberry", a bit deeper. > >The $169 question: does anybody know which of these colors >matches the 1990 PC (red) more closely? I know neither one >is exact, the regular red seems somewhat close and I haven't >seen the wineberry in person. > >Thanks, > >Dan Masi >'90 PC > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BMillman@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:21:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Doug, I have had a similar experience after fitting Saeng edging to a standard screen, a small improvement but a worthwhile one. However, I notice that it is more comfortable wearing an open face Nolan Trend than my flip-up Nolan x100. With this (full face) I do get some buffeting at about 75mph. It may well be worth experimenting with different helmets - if you can get enough friends to let you 'road-test' them. Regards and safe riding Brian Millman Reading England 90 PC800 - Candy Red (The Palm Tree PC) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:36:55 -0700 (PDT) To: rogerries@yahoo.com (Roger Ries) Cc: appleseed@thinkapple.com (Greg Torok), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Subject: Re: PC800: The PC and Others 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) --WebTV-Mail-509474056-39 master of none? that's why mine be (due to Juan's suggestion) 1 X PKUP cause it can do just about anything most pickups can! is just a matter of balance, Jack! (be nimble, not quick) did not the tortise beat the hare? {-: with BIG tongue in cheek :-) Jerry Kidby 90PC 1X PKUP 45kmi (got 10292 mi on FRTLNR last mth) --WebTV-Mail-509474056-39 postoffice-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:08:23 -0700 mailsorter-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id JAA03137; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:08:22 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAC25669; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:08:21 -0500 (CDT) 09:08:25 PDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Ries Subject: Re: PC800: The PC and Others To: Greg Torok Cc: PC800 --- Greg Torok wrote: > But if you are looking for a bike that does a little > bit of everything > really well, the PC really starts looking good. > > Greg Torok > 97 PC800 > Bellingham, WA It's name should be Jack. Jack of all trades, master at none. === Later Roger R Chaska, MN _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-509474056-39-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Peter Noeth" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Front Mud Flap Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:53:30 -0400 All this talk of a mudflap has me intriqued. I this an aftermarket item? Where can I find one? After riding for 30 miles of muddy construction on the ALCAN and turning my radiator into an adobe block, I felt that a mudflap is a must!! Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: 'PC800 List' Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:28 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap >Jim, > > The mud flap attaches to the underside of the fender using a self adhesive >tape strip and two screws, for which you have to drill two 10mm holes. The kit >comes with a paper template to use to locate where the holes are to be drilled. >The fender does not need to be removed, as turning the handlebars from lock to >lock will give you adequate access for drilling the holes. Double check the >template position before drilling!! > > I installed the mud flap on my bike and it only took about 30-45 minuites, but >I was working slowly. Use a mild thread locking fluid (Locktite-purple) or apply >some clear silicone (GE Silicone Seal or other silicone base caulking compound) >to the screw threads before attaching the screws to prevent vibration loosening >them. This is not mentioned in the instructions, but since the screws are >polished and chrome plated, they may be a bit difficult to replace should you >loose them. > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to >be done so I can start riding again! > > >> ---------- >> From: J. Nyffeler[SMTP:jn20956@navix.net] >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:36 PM >> To: PC800 Group >> Subject: PC800: Front Mud Flap >> >> Hi All: >> >> How does the OEM mud flap attach? Do I need to take the center piece >> (fender) off to attach it? My dealer says that it is still available. It >> should help keep the lower cowl a little cleaner. >> >> Thanks: >> Jim Nyffeler >> nyfty@navix.net >> 1989 PC800 >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:00:42 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap MTW wrote: > > All this talk of a mudflap has me intriqued. I this an aftermarket item? > Where can I find one? > > After riding for 30 miles of muddy construction on the ALCAN and turning my > radiator into an adobe block, I felt that a mudflap is a must!! As with most things made to "look nice", the fender extension (mud flap is a bit too much) for the PC800 is a compromise. Yes, it does help, but is not very effective. I bought a set from J.C. Whitney (<$4.00 for the pair!) and they work better than the stock item, but don't look as good. Also, in the front, I discovered that under hard braking the forks would compress enough to make the flap slide beteen the slats on the chin fairing, causing the front wheel to "lock" on the straight ahead position. Very disconcerting when the bike doesn't want to turn! Thankfully the flap is soft enough that it can be deformed and forced out of the slats fairly easily. To prevent this from happening again I used three long zip ties set perpendicular to the slats. No more jamming. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Boz" To: "Barrett, Chris" , Subject: Re: PC800: Wobbling Front End Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:19:55 -0000 Hi PC-ers! .....hmmm Wobbly front end??? ohhhh-yeah!!!! I don't notice it at all w/ hands on handlebars.... but the minute I take both off.... coasting on the back presure, whatever VERY disconcerning!!!! like out of control, wobbles getting biggger & bigger.... and that's unloaded, no passenger...... I figured that it was just the fornt tire balance & as there is NO hint of a problem w/ hands (or hand) on bars I thought that is was just front tire balance & I'd worry about it when I got new tires...... Any comments??? Sounds like it isn't just my problem...... THANX!!! Boz on PC AND! If ANYBODY is cruising thru central NY & needs/wants a place to stay, gotta guest room w/ clean sheets!!!! (Y'all may have to change 'em, but......) CYa of the road!!!! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Barrett, Chris To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: PC800: Wobbling Front End >Dear Listers, > >Got a minor problem. Ever since I added a GiVi 50 to my PC the front >end seems to wobble. This usually occurs between about 35 and 45 mph, >and is more frequent at low RPMs and in the mornings when the tires are >cold. Above about 55 mph the wobble is hardly noticeable. Same with >very low speeds (under 25 mph) > >I have attempted to remedy the problem by adjusting the pre-load on the >back both up and down and by changing the tire pressures (I've tried >both maximum, middle, and minimum on front and rear). If I remove the >topbox the problem is much reduced. Likewise if I'm riding with a >passenger. > >Any recommendations on the tire pressure and pre-load settings to >compensate for the extra weight? Any other rec's on how to eliminate >the wobble? > >Chris Barrett >98 PC800 "The PowerSlave" > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike S." To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: fair price; 1997 PC Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:48:19 EDT I am asking for the pro's help. I have a 1997 PC800 which I bought new in September 1998. Due to some health reasons I am thinking of selling the bike. What is a good price, based upon: 1997 PC 800 bought new in September 1998; 2+yrs on warr. 5,600 miles (always serviced w/ Honda filters & oil) -hondaline backrest -saeng edging on stock shield -wong wing w/brakelight -pc glovebox I would even throw in a battery tender, dry rider rainsuit, shoei rf-800 red helmet, tourmaster bag w/ bungees. You can reply to me personally or on the list as I monitor it also. Thanks for your time _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: product review: Saeng Edging Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:29:34 PDT Doug, I just don't pay that much attention to the back pressure anymore. With ear plugs inside the Shoei and my attention on the Road or the surrounding countryside I just ride along. BTW, I'm in Oklahoma, just a few miles south of Tulsa. If you're ever out this way, I'm the only one in the Okmulgee, Ok. phone book. Give me a call and I'll spring for the coffee and pie. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:38:25 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: jgoula CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap jgoula wrote: > MTW wrote: > > > > All this talk of a mudflap has me intriqued. I this an aftermarket item? > > Where can I find one? A friend of mine made his own out of a piece of conveyor belt. It is longer, wider, and thicker and more stiff than the stock Honda part and it keeps the front of his bike cleaner. Just one more idea. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:38:41 -0700 Chuck, I used a Uni-bit to drill the hole. This is a step-tapered drill bit used for drilling holes in thin material. I started using a 1/8" pilot hole and used the Uni-bit to step the hole bigger to its final size. I didn't use a wood block as a backer because Uni-bits don't grab and tear the material being drilled. They also produce as near a perfectly round hole that can be obtained by any drill bit. You should be able to find them in the bigger hardware stores, but I don't believe they are made in metric sizes. I used the nearest SAE sized step to the required 10mm size. These drill bits (there are several with different step sizes and ranges) are a good investment if you do a lot of drilling into thin plastic. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: Chuck Chiodini[SMTP:chiodinc@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 5:35 PM > To: Peter_N1@verifone.com > Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap > > Jim: > Be SURE to place a wood block behind the fender when you drill or you'll > crack the plastic. > > Chuck Chiodini (voice of sad experience) > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:02:13 -0400 Subject: PC800: meeting people on motorcycles I was going to Lowes this evening to buy some stuff for my house, when I looked to my left and saw a young couple and a pair of motorcycles parked outside a local inn. I could tell one was an ST. Naturally, I had to turn around. This guy (on the ST) and his wife (on a spanking new, freaky looking Buell) were coming from Texas and had to stop to wait out today's storms. I guess the point of this message is that I was very impressed with the ST. It's smaller than I thought it'd be . . looks like it might be smaller than even the PC, but I'm sure that's because it's not as bulbous. He had the bags off, with a givi rack on the back, bigger windshield, cruise, heated grips, corbin seats, handlebar risers . . the works. I now need to go take a cold shower. I guess I was just impressed by the button-down look of the thing. Most sporting bikes have lots of testosterone flair, but this bike is more toned down. You can tell there's lots of substance, but it just doesn't show off. Conversely, I wouldn't hit a bull in the ass with the Buell. It was spanking new, but it looked very crude. Lots of exposed metal . . and not nice metal like the alloys you see on a CBR600 or something. It looked, well, like someone made a kit motorcycle around a Harley engine (which is what they do, after all). Isn't it cool how you can feel comfortable approaching complete stranger over a motorcycle? It's kind of like walking a dog. People come up to me all the time and strike up a conversation about my bike, and I think nothing of approaching a stranger about his or her bike . . excluding of course, almost all Harley riders and Harley imitators. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rutherford L. Le Blang" To: "pc800@hpc. uh. edu" Subject: PC800: Givi Box and Wong Wing Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:45:31 -0400 Importance: Normal Hi all, I've gone through the archives, and I'm not sure if a definite answer was given. Can you install a Givi box with the Wong Wing? Russ '98 PC800 "Pacifica" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Boz" , "Barrett, Chris" , Subject: Re: PC800: Wobbling Front End Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:44:26 -0400 The front end wobble is a common occurance with the PC (notice I didn't say problem). We're talking no hands & 45/35 mph? Many listers have experienced it. I've corrected it for a few thousand miles with new tires and when it came back , toying with the air pressure +/- a few lb helps for a while , but it returns. I've got close to 15k on my K177's and it's always there now but not a problem with my hand on the bars. I'm curious if it be there when I put on the Metzlers I'm ordering. Hope this helps Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Boz To: Barrett, Chris ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 8:45 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Wobbling Front End >Hi PC-ers! > >.....hmmm Wobbly front end??? ohhhh-yeah!!!! I don't notice it at all >w/ hands on handlebars.... but the minute I take both off.... coasting on >the back presure, whatever VERY disconcerning!!!! like out of control, >wobbles getting biggger & bigger.... and that's unloaded, no >passenger...... I figured that it was just the fornt tire balance & as >there is NO hint of a problem w/ hands (or hand) on bars I thought that is >was just front tire balance & I'd worry about it when I got new tires...... > >Any comments??? Sounds like it isn't just my problem...... > >THANX!!! > >Boz on PC > > >AND! If ANYBODY is cruising thru central NY & needs/wants a place to stay, >gotta guest room w/ clean sheets!!!! (Y'all may have to change 'em, >but......) > > >CYa of the road!!!! > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barrett, Chris >To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' >Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:24 PM >Subject: PC800: Wobbling Front End > > >>Dear Listers, >> >>Got a minor problem. Ever since I added a GiVi 50 to my PC the front >>end seems to wobble. This usually occurs between about 35 and 45 mph, >>and is more frequent at low RPMs and in the mornings when the tires are >>cold. Above about 55 mph the wobble is hardly noticeable. Same with >>very low speeds (under 25 mph) >> >>I have attempted to remedy the problem by adjusting the pre-load on the >>back both up and down and by changing the tire pressures (I've tried >>both maximum, middle, and minimum on front and rear). If I remove the >>topbox the problem is much reduced. Likewise if I'm riding with a >>passenger. >> >>Any recommendations on the tire pressure and pre-load settings to >>compensate for the extra weight? Any other rec's on how to eliminate >>the wobble? >> >>Chris Barrett >>98 PC800 "The PowerSlave" >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "jgoula" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:55:42 -0400 Thanks Juan, Your forks compress enough to jam the mudflap into the lower fairing even with the anti dive system? My PC dosent seem to dip very much even during hard breaking. Mike Whited Columbus Ohio -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgoula To: PC800 Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 7:04 PM Subject: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap MTW wrote: > > All this talk of a mudflap has me intriqued. I this an aftermarket item? > Where can I find one? > > After riding for 30 miles of muddy construction on the ALCAN and turning my > radiator into an adobe block, I felt that a mudflap is a must!! As with most things made to "look nice", the fender extension (mud flap is a bit too much) for the PC800 is a compromise. Yes, it does help, but is not very effective. I bought a set from J.C. Whitney (<$4.00 for the pair!) and they work better than the stock item, but don't look as good. Also, in the front, I discovered that under hard braking the forks would compress enough to make the flap slide beteen the slats on the chin fairing, causing the front wheel to "lock" on the straight ahead position. Very disconcerting when the bike doesn't want to turn! Thankfully the flap is soft enough that it can be deformed and forced out of the slats fairly easily. To prevent this from happening again I used three long zip ties set perpendicular to the slats. No more jamming. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:39:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Weight Limits & Road trip in action To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Listers & Coasters; I've been following the weight limit thread recently and had a chance over the Memorial weekend to put my PC to a test. I loaded it to the gills and took off with my wife to the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC. My wife had some business in Greenville SC so after that nonsense was over we headed North on Rte 25 to Asheville, NC. (A nice state Highway that runs through the SC foothills). I guess we were carrying about 400lbs, about 10% over the Honda weight limits. (2 passengers and gear). We ended up driving 100 miles of the BRP from Asheville to Deep Gap. That portion of the PArkway runs past Mt. Mitchell the highest point east of the Atlantic at 6000+ ft. and up and down through elevations between 3000-5000 ft. The road twists and turns, climbs and plunges, flattens out and rolls in various places. The speed limit on the BRP is 45 mph. NEVER did I feel the PC was overloaded! We were also travelling early in the morning, the Friday before the holiday, with very little traffic, so I had a chance to put the PC through its paces. It's handling characteristics were superb! I had maxed out the tire pressure on the rear K555 to 41lbs and adjusted the shock setting to the stiffest range. It took a pretty good bump to bottom out the shocks! Otherwise it handled beautifully. Braking was smooth and controlled although I must admit acceleration was not what it is under lightly loaded situatations. (my only gripe) Summary: I know there is some concern out there about exceeding the recommended weight limit, I shared this concern before leaving on this trip. Needless to say my concern has been put to rest. I felt very confident and safe with the PC carrying 400lbs! Rob Cary NC 96 PC w/ 3.1K (.6K from this trip!) 89 w/ 43K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:22:51 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: For Sale: 1998 PC800 To: cbarrett@ocsea.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/1/99 8:11:40 PM Mountain Daylight Time, cbarrett@ocsea.org writes: << Asking $6500.00 - SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY!! >> Hi Listers: Every time that I see someone add "serious inquiries only" in an add I can't help but wonder how this little add-on got started. After all, does anyone out there actually call someone up running an add just to shoot to breeze? I have sold many things in the newspaper and have never had any callers that were calling just to waste my time. They call to ask about what I am selling, or perhaps directions, but have never had one person call just to waste my time. Maybe it is just me, but it ranks almost as irritating as when someone runs an add to sell something and sees fit not to put a price in the add. I have never responded to such an add and never will, and am not sure that I would for a "serious inquiries only" either! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:15:20 EDT Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Items For Sale: 6/4/99 update - Delete if not interested! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: Jfmoemd@aol.com, jfmoemd@indy.net FOR SALE Please contact me at jfmoemd@aol.com, or at jfmoemd@indy.net for further information. 1. Honda Service Manual, 89 PC800 2. Honda Service Manual 89-90, 94-98 SOLD 3. Clymer Service Manual GL1200 84-87 4. Clymer Service Manula GL1500, 88-92 5. GIVI E40 Monokey topcase, complete 6. Gerbings heated gloves, size M 7. Gerbings heated socks, size 9 8. Gerbings electronic controller for above 9. FirstGear Expedition motorcycle jacket, size 48 10. Shoei RF-200 helmet, size 7 11. Fulmer helmet, size 7 1/4 12. PC800 mirror housing, right side, new 13. Tour King PC800 cover SOLD 14. PC800 oil filter wrench SOLD 15. Two GoldWing soft zippered saddlebags 16. One GoldWing zippered duffel bag 17. T-bag, new 18. Pro Sport trickle charger, new 19. Pro Sport trickle charger, used 20. Digital voltmeter, panel mount, new 21. Bagman nylon Saddlebags SOLD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Scalisi Subject: RE: PC800: Antifreeze Leak To: PC800 List The problem Roger describes below must be what's happening to me. I pulled off some panels last night, side vents, seat, upper side panels, the inserts under the handlebars and the top cover. I was able to see the route of the hoses that run from the thermostat to the cylinder heads. The hoses appear to be in great shape for being ten years old. Honda must use some very high quality rubber compound for those hoses. Anyway, the hoses do in fact terminate on these pipes which Roger described. I did not see any signs of leakage or past leakage from the hoses on either end, where they are clamped to those pipes or clamped to the thermostat housing. I even removed the entire air filter housing to get a good look at everything. I snugged down the clamps where they attach to the cylinder head pipes but I don't think that is going to stop the leaking. You can't see the other end of the chrome pipes, where they enter the cylinder heads, so I could not confirm if there were traces of leaks there. There is rubber cover under the carbs over the top of the engine which makes it hard to see in with out removing it but I didn't feel comfortable going any further. It looked like the carbs would have to be removed to get down in there. I may have to bring the bike in to have the dealer check those pipes. Has anyone else had this same problem with a coolant leak coming from those cylinder head pipes and needed to replace the o-rings? Did you replace them yourself or have a dealer do it? If done yourself, how difficult was it? Do you have to tear down more of the engine to get in there or if I dissconnect the hose from the pipe will the pipe just pull out of the cylinder head and a new o-ring can be put in? Any help would be appreciated. By the way, checked my air filter while in there. That needs to be replaced. Now I have to decide to go with a Honda OEM or put a K&N in. Also, from a previous posting advisory, I removed the metal screen in the air cleaner assembly and found that there was a small build up of oil under there which I cleaned out. Thanks to whoever posted that advise. It's a good thing to do when replacing the air filter. One final thing. With the top cover off I think I notice a missing vacuum hose. There's a tube molded into the plastic that surrounds the gas tank access area sticking out towards the front of the bike. There was nothing attached to it. I also noticed a vacuum hose connector coming off the base of the carbs facing rearward. That connector had three spouts, one facing left, one right and one straight back toward the gas tank access area. The connectors facing left and right had hoses attached to them. The rearward facing one was just open. Is a hose suppossed to run from the tee to the tube on the gas tank access area? Or somewhere else? The gas tank is vented into the filler area so it would make sense that a vacuum hose would be attached from the filler area tube to the base of the carbs to draw the fumes out and into the carbs. Any advise? John in Connecticut 1990 PC800 Never Named --- Roger Prince wrote: > > My '90 PC did that. The leak was at the bottom of the chrome return > pipes, > situated between the cylinders. They are just placed in the block > with > o-ring seals. In my case the o-rings had dried out. Luckily I was > still > under warranty. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:52:44 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC spotting On my way into work this morning (Grand Rapids Home for Veterans) I saw a black PC with a radio antenna. He/She was heading south and west on I-96, NE of Grand Rapids. Not Steve, who has a red "Lexus" PC. Anyone else on the list? Nice looking bike. TommyTeal -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 95 ACE 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:01:51 -0400 Subject: PC800: Americade-June7-12 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) If anyone is planning on attending Americade next week in Lake George, NY send a message to Francois Saint Laurent (fsl@borgconsulting.com) and plan on getting together with other Pacific Coasters sometime over the course of the week. There will be a group of us staying at the Days Inn in Queensbury, NY (just down the road from Lake George) and I know some others found rooms elsewhere. Hopefully we can all meet several times to have a great time together, even if you only come up for the day (you might even find one of us with some extra space to spend the night). Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:33:26 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: CJ Russell CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clothing/boots/helmets CJ Russell wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am the proud new owner of Scott Piper's beautiful Pearl White PC. Congratulations. I have been in touch with Scot since I bought my PC in August of 98 and I am sure you got a very good bike that was well taken care of, by a guy who loves to ride. > on the road we are and my grin couldn't be wider. Glad to hear it and here is too many enjoyable and safe miles down the road. A few questions: > > 1. Anybody know why the tailight stays on when the trunk is loaded and you > put the ignition switch in the parking lock position? It seems to be > intermittent but I'm glad I noticed or a dead battery would be forthcoming. > > 2. We would like to by some nice riding gear for summer weather that isn't > the black leather stuff. I have been researching and found some interesting > options. I would appreciate your input, including boots, I wonder how > cumbersome the big touring boots would be on the PC. > > 3. Any tips on getting Helmet's painted to match the PC? Sorry I cannot help with any of these questions, I hope you got some responses from the list. You should have as there are many knowledgable people on this list. > > Thanks for all the info already, buying the PC was as much due to the list > as anything else. Looking forward to riding with some of you - email me if > ever in the mid/northern Michigan area. > > CJ Russell My wife and I will be at Harrison the weekend of June 10th to the 13th for our wing groups' State rally. I will be bringing up the PC and we will be staying onsite at the fairgrounds in a 5th wheel travel trailer. Come by (10th to 12th is best) and visit if you like. The red PC will be parked in front of the trailer, you will not be able to miss it. Don't worry about having to pay to get in. If your just there to visit with someone, there is no charge to come in. (Check out the link at the bottom of my signature line for more info, if you want) We can go together on the fun run route if you like. See ya TommyTeal -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 95 ACE 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:16:41 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Parking light To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu C.J. writes: << 1. Anybody know why the tailight stays on when the trunk is loaded and you > put the ignition switch in the parking lock position? It seems to be > intermittent but I'm glad I noticed or a dead battery would be forthcoming. >> C.J., there are two positions for the ignition switch to the left of OFF. The first is P (park) which locks the fork and turns the tail light on as you describe. It is intended to keep the tail light on as a marker for short-duration stops (say by the side of the road at night). It will run the battery down if left on for several hours (depending on battery charge and condition). The second position is Lock which also locks the fork but turns the "parking" light off. You need to make sure that you turn the key all the way to Lock when leaving the bike for any significant period of time. Glad you're enjoying your PC. I've been enjoying mine for 8 years now, and each time I ride it, I like it even more. J. T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:36:13 -0400 Subject: PC800: vendor report Listers: I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I ordered. Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too dark for the bike. I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and hardware three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. It's been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when they'll be able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm talking to. I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from them in the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's more expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys say it's a perfect match. Doug Wilkerson I/T Specialist, IBM Digital Manufacturing Solutions Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id NAA18756 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:00:05 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:59:29 -0500 Subject: PC800: A tip From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 I've been looking for a small "tank bag" for my PC and happened to stumble on such a bag made for a snowmobile. It is a Yamaha brand, about 9 x 10", fairly flat, and has a band of heavy duty Velcro sewn into one side. Its shape is contoured perfectly for the slight curve of the PC's (pseudo)tank cover. Got it for $40, bought a strip of matching Velcro at the hardware store for a buck, and it looks like it was made for the PC. Even has a handle, removable clear plastic map case and inner pockets, doe not interfere with the handlebars or the gas tank cover, and can be removed in a second. So, check the snowmobile accessory area if you are in a pinch. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:02:43 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Vendor report - Competition Accessories Doug: If you paid by credit card, I would file a complaint directly with the issuer of the credit card that you used. The credit card folks will then step in and contact the vendor directly, and some times this can help expedite the issue. State to your credit card company that the vendor did not ship what you ordered, is "dragging their feet" in doing anything about it, that you have tried to work with them on this multiple times, but things are going nowhere. This is referred to as a "purchase in dispute", and the credit card issuer will not make you pay until there is some sort of resolution. I had to do this once, but maybe things have changed since then.... R. Fenwick 1990 PC800 - 17,500 miles fenwick@nn.com At 12:36 PM 6/3/99 -0400, dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > >Listers: > >I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I ordered. >Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too dark >for the bike. > >I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and hardware >three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. It's >been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when they'll be >able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm >talking to. > >I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from them in >the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky >suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. > >I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your >suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's more >expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys say >it's a perfect match. > > > > >Doug Wilkerson > >I/T Specialist, IBM >Digital Manufacturing Solutions >Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS >External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:03:02 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Front Mud Flap I don't think anyone mentioned this. Right after I bought my PC, I asked my local Honda dealer about the front mudflap for it. They can still get the original Honda one, but it costs about $34.00. At 06:53 PM 6/2/99 -0400, MTW wrote: >All this talk of a mudflap has me intriqued. I this an aftermarket item? >Where can I find one? > >After riding for 30 miles of muddy construction on the ALCAN and turning my >radiator into an adobe block, I felt that a mudflap is a must!! > >Mike Whited ' 94 PC > >Columbus Ohio > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Noeth >To: 'PC800 List' >Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:28 PM >Subject: RE: PC800: Front Mud Flap > > >>Jim, >> >> The mud flap attaches to the underside of the fender using a self >adhesive >>tape strip and two screws, for which you have to drill two 10mm holes. The >kit >>comes with a paper template to use to locate where the holes are to be >drilled. >>The fender does not need to be removed, as turning the handlebars from lock >to >>lock will give you adequate access for drilling the holes. Double check the >>template position before drilling!! >> >> I installed the mud flap on my bike and it only took about 30-45 >minuites, but >>I was working slowly. Use a mild thread locking fluid (Locktite-purple) or >apply >>some clear silicone (GE Silicone Seal or other silicone base caulking >compound) >>to the screw threads before attaching the screws to prevent vibration >loosening >>them. This is not mentioned in the instructions, but since the screws are >>polished and chrome plated, they may be a bit difficult to replace should >you >>loose them. >> >>Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new >house to >>be done so I can start riding again! >> >> >>> ---------- >>> From: J. Nyffeler[SMTP:jn20956@navix.net] >>> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:36 PM >>> To: PC800 Group >>> Subject: PC800: Front Mud Flap >>> >>> Hi All: >>> >>> How does the OEM mud flap attach? Do I need to take the center piece >>> (fender) off to attach it? My dealer says that it is still available. >It >>> should help keep the lower cowl a little cleaner. >>> >>> Thanks: >>> Jim Nyffeler >>> nyfty@navix.net >>> 1989 PC800 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Visit the PC800 web page at >>> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >>> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:01:45 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap Mike Whited wrote: > Your forks compress enough to jam the mudflap into the lower fairing even > with the anti dive system? My PC dosent seem to dip very much even during > hard breaking. Just enough to slide in the tip of the mud flap. Remember that the flap that I installed is significantly longer than the Honda item. One of the things I really like about the PC's handling is that, under braking, it squats more than it dives. The bike just lowers itself quite evenly, and you don't realize really how much the forks are compressing. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id OAA52402 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:51:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:50:58 -0500 Subject: PC800: Re: A Tip From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 >>Got it for $40, bought a strip of matching Velcro at the hardware >>store for a buck, and it looks like it was made for the PC. Even >>has a handle, removable clear plastic map case and inner pockets, >>doe not interfere with the handlebars or the gas tank cover, and >>can be removed in a second. > > This sounds great. Is the velcro how it attaches to the bike, though? Yes. It is pretty heavy duty, as is the matching strip I added. It feels pretty secure since the strip runs the whole length of the bag (down the center) and since it is well protected from wind given its location. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert Lechner" To: Subject: Re: PC800: vendor report Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:02:12 -0400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Unfortunately, with UPS 'call tags', UPS has NO specified number of days to pick up your item. Their shipping manual has no specification for pickup time from the request and it has to be requested by the shipper. It may take repeated requests from C.A. to get them to pick it up. It often takes 10 days or more even if Competition Accessories issued it right away. You might be able to call your local UPS office and see if they have it scheduled. If not, check with C.A. and see if they can re-issue the call tag. The other advice from R. Fenwick is good; let your credit card company know right away that you are having a problem. Make it C.A.'s problem more than yours. Hopefully, UPS will pick it up soon and it will all work out. Bob -------------------------------------- Robert Lechner, Erie, PA 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" 4475 miles since 4 August 1998 ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: PC800: vendor report > > > > Listers: > > I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I ordered. > Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too dark > for the bike. > > I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and hardware > three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. It's > been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when they'll be > able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm > talking to. > > I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from them in > the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky > suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. > > I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your > suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's more > expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys say > it's a perfect match. > > Doug Wilkerson > > I/T Specialist, IBM > Digital Manufacturing Solutions > Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS > External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EB8CSCZA; Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:05:52 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:09:49 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: A tip From: Joyce D Calvert Or also, I had one from Eclipse that was also very small and attached to the bike in the usual manner of tank bags. It was red, matched the '96 well, was the smallest one they make. Joyce Sonoma County, Ca On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:59:29 -0500 "Rich Gross" writes: >I've been looking for a small "tank bag" for my PC and happened >to stumble on such a bag made for a snowmobile. It is a Yamaha >brand, about 9 x 10", fairly flat, and has a band of heavy duty >Velcro sewn into one side. Its shape is contoured perfectly for >the slight curve of the PC's (pseudo)tank cover. > >Got it for $40, bought a strip of matching Velcro at the hardware >store for a buck, and it looks like it was made for the PC. Even >has a handle, removable clear plastic map case and inner pockets, >doe not interfere with the handlebars or the gas tank cover, and >can be removed in a second. > >So, check the snowmobile accessory area if you are in a pinch. > >Rich >Madison, WI >1994 PC800: Jetson >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:04:10 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Robert Lechner'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: vendor report Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:57:40 -0700 If you have notice of the call tag, can you drop it off at a UPS office and will that speed anything up? It seems if you have some kind of information (like a Call Tag number) UPS should be able to verify that the call tag exists and they could accept the package, then it gets into their system. After all UPS does make money on a Call tag item being shipped, dropping it off at their site woudl save them money and they could cancel the pickup at the location. Maybe this makes too much sense! Jim Alexander Concord California '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 On 6/3/99 1:02 PM, Robert Lechner [SMTP:tiskippy@erie.net] wrote: > Unfortunately, with UPS 'call tags', UPS has NO specified number of days to > pick up your item. Their shipping manual has no specification for pickup > time from the request and it has to be requested by the shipper. It may > take repeated requests from C.A. to get them to pick it up. It often takes > 10 days or more even if Competition Accessories issued it right away. You > might be able to call your local UPS office and see if they have it > scheduled. If not, check with C.A. and see if they can re-issue the call > tag. The other advice from R. Fenwick is good; let your credit card company > know right away that you are having a problem. Make it C.A.'s problem more > than yours. Hopefully, UPS will pick it up soon and it will all work out. > > Bob > -------------------------------------- > Robert Lechner, Erie, PA > 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" > 4475 miles since 4 August 1998 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:36 PM > Subject: PC800: vendor report > > > > > > > > > > Listers: > > > > I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I > ordered. > > Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too > dark > > for the bike. > > > > I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and > hardware > > three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. > It's > > been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when > they'll be > > able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm > > talking to. > > > > I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from > them in > > the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky > > suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. > > > > I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your > > suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's > more > > expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys > say > > it's a perfect match. > > > > Doug Wilkerson > > > > I/T Specialist, IBM > > Digital Manufacturing Solutions > > Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS > > External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:54:19 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: Competition Accessories / UPS pickup UPS used to handle call tags by literally sending the tag out like a ground package (and they still may). So, it should take around the same amount of time for a call tag to arrive to a customer as if it were a package sent via Ground. Therefore, if the original shipment was shipped ground, and took three days (which sounds about right), the call tag shouldn't take much longer, a day or two more at the most. The bottom line - In my opinion, UPS should have been there by now. (I managed a shipping department for 5 years, from 1992-1997) At 01:57 PM 6/3/99 -0700, Jim Alexander wrote: >If you have notice of the call tag, can you drop it off at a UPS office and >will that speed anything up? It seems if you have some kind of information >(like a Call Tag number) UPS should be able to verify that the call tag exists >and they could accept the package, then it gets into their system. After >all >UPS does make money on a Call tag item being shipped, dropping it off at their >site woudl save them money and they could cancel the pickup at the location. > Maybe this makes too much sense! > >Jim Alexander Concord California >'98 ST1100 STar Chaser >HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 > >On 6/3/99 1:02 PM, Robert Lechner [SMTP:tiskippy@erie.net] wrote: >> Unfortunately, with UPS 'call tags', UPS has NO specified number of days to >> pick up your item. Their shipping manual has no specification for pickup >> time from the request and it has to be requested by the shipper. It may >> take repeated requests from C.A. to get them to pick it up. It often takes >> 10 days or more even if Competition Accessories issued it right away. You >> might be able to call your local UPS office and see if they have it >> scheduled. If not, check with C.A. and see if they can re-issue the call >> tag. The other advice from R. Fenwick is good; let your credit card company >> know right away that you are having a problem. Make it C.A.'s problem more >> than yours. Hopefully, UPS will pick it up soon and it will all work out. >> >> Bob >> -------------------------------------- >> Robert Lechner, Erie, PA >> 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" >> 4475 miles since 4 August 1998 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:36 PM >> Subject: PC800: vendor report >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Listers: >> > >> > I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I >> ordered. >> > Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too >> dark >> > for the bike. >> > >> > I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and >> hardware >> > three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. >> It's >> > been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when >> they'll be >> > able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm >> > talking to. >> > >> > I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from >> them in >> > the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky >> > suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. >> > >> > I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your >> > suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's >> more >> > expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys >> say >> > it's a perfect match. >> > >> > Doug Wilkerson >> > >> > I/T Specialist, IBM >> > Digital Manufacturing Solutions >> > Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS >> > External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:58:47 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: cbarrett@ocsea.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: For Sale: 1998 PC800 Russ, I've sold four bikes over the internet and in the papers, always received tons of phone calls. The problems arose when I would get calls from people who really just wanted to talk motorcycles, normally not a problem but not during dinner or homework time. I had a drunk woman call me at 1:00 am long distance in response to my ad for my Yamaha XS1100SG and proceeded to tell me about her cheating boyfriend. The last two ads I ran I added the phrase "serious inquiries only" and that was all I received. Sold the bike quicker, as well. Bikers are a social lot and we love to talk about our machines, but there IS a time and a place for that. Likely, the people who add that line to their ads are people who have high demands on their time and have to portion it accordingly. BTW, I ALWAYS put a price on my ads. That also cuts down on unnecessary calls. --Ralph RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/1/99 8:11:40 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > cbarrett@ocsea.org writes: > > << Asking $6500.00 - SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY!! > >> > Hi Listers: > Every time that I see someone add "serious inquiries only" in an add I can't > help but wonder how this little add-on got started. After all, does anyone > out there actually call someone up running an add just to shoot to breeze? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert Lechner" To: Subject: Re: PC800: vendor report Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:07:14 -0400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu These days, call tags are automated and the response time is largely a matter of when the local UPS office feels like getting there. It depends partly on whether thay have a truck running near your location, unsavory aspects of your neighborhood and the whim of the local scheduling-person. Lately, though, the few call tags that our company has done have been getting handled a little quicker than 10 days on average, but not always. Good luck, Bob -------------------------------------- Robert Lechner, Erie, PA 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: 'Robert Lechner' ; Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 4:57 PM Subject: RE: PC800: vendor report > If you have notice of the call tag, can you drop it off at a UPS office and > will that speed anything up? It seems if you have some kind of information > (like a Call Tag number) UPS should be able to verify that the call tag exists > and they could accept the package, then it gets into their system. After all > UPS does make money on a Call tag item being shipped, dropping it off at their > site woudl save them money and they could cancel the pickup at the location. > Maybe this makes too much sense! > > Jim Alexander Concord California > '98 ST1100 STar Chaser > HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 STOC #009 > > On 6/3/99 1:02 PM, Robert Lechner [SMTP:tiskippy@erie.net] wrote: > > Unfortunately, with UPS 'call tags', UPS has NO specified number of days to > > pick up your item. Their shipping manual has no specification for pickup > > time from the request and it has to be requested by the shipper. It may > > take repeated requests from C.A. to get them to pick it up. It often takes > > 10 days or more even if Competition Accessories issued it right away. You > > might be able to call your local UPS office and see if they have it > > scheduled. If not, check with C.A. and see if they can re-issue the call > > tag. The other advice from R. Fenwick is good; let your credit card company > > know right away that you are having a problem. Make it C.A.'s problem more > > than yours. Hopefully, UPS will pick it up soon and it will all work out. > > > > Bob > > -------------------------------------- > > Robert Lechner, Erie, PA > > 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" > > 4475 miles since 4 August 1998 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:36 PM > > Subject: PC800: vendor report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Listers: > > > > > > I have asked Competition Accessories for a refund on the Maxia that I > > ordered. > > > Recall, I ordered a flat black and recieved a candy apple color--much too > > dark > > > for the bike. > > > > > > I ordered the box 10 days ago (on a Monday) and received the box and > > hardware > > > three days later. I called immediately to inform them of the mistake. > > It's > > > been a a week now and they can't tell me when UPS will be by or when > > they'll be > > > able to send me another box. I get a different story depending on who I'm > > > talking to. > > > > > > I'm very disappointed in their service, and will likely not order from > > them in > > > the future. I've got the wrong box in my garage, and I have the sneaky > > > suspicion that it's going to be hard to get my money back. > > > > > > I called Givi USA directly and ordered a box from them. Based on your > > > suggestions, I ordered the R300 ("Ducati Red" is what they call it). It's > > more > > > expensive, but I think the look will be better, especially since you guys > > say > > > it's a perfect match. > > > > > > Doug Wilkerson > > > > > > I/T Specialist, IBM > > > Digital Manufacturing Solutions > > > Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS > > > External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: meeting people on motorcycles Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:35:39 PDT Doug, I have always admired the ST1100 and think it a logical step up bike from the PC. I had the opportunity to set on one at a Honda dealership and with my eyes closed it felt a lot like the PC. In our part of the country you don't see many used ones, if fact, they are pretty rare. I spoke with a husband and wife at the same dealer who had stopped in from Texas headed north. Both their ST's were decked to the hilt with tank bags and tail bags, bra's and extra lights and heli bars, the full treatment. They were retired, looked late 50's, and said they tried to spend most of their time touring together. If and when the time comes, I think I could live with an ST very nicely. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:58:53 +0200 Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:07:02 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 mailing-list" Subject: Re: PC800: Wobbling Front End Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:31:38 +0200 Well I think the problem of the wobbling front end is that the shape of the front tire isn't good anymore. This could happen if you drive a lot of high-way milage. I had the same problem just before I had to chainge my front tire. After it was chainged the problem disappeard agian. Jeroen van Vuure vuure@dds.nl Holland -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Boz Aan: Barrett, Chris ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Datum: donderdag 3 juni 1999 2:44 Onderwerp: Re: PC800: Wobbling Front End >Hi PC-ers! > >.....hmmm Wobbly front end??? ohhhh-yeah!!!! I don't notice it at all >w/ hands on handlebars.... but the minute I take both off.... coasting on >the back presure, whatever VERY disconcerning!!!! like out of control, >wobbles getting biggger & bigger.... and that's unloaded, no >passenger...... I figured that it was just the fornt tire balance & as >there is NO hint of a problem w/ hands (or hand) on bars I thought that is >was just front tire balance & I'd worry about it when I got new tires...... > >Any comments??? Sounds like it isn't just my problem...... > >THANX!!! > >Boz on PC > > >AND! If ANYBODY is cruising thru central NY & needs/wants a place to stay, >gotta guest room w/ clean sheets!!!! (Y'all may have to change 'em, >but......) > > >CYa of the road!!!! > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barrett, Chris >To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' >Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:24 PM >Subject: PC800: Wobbling Front End > > >>Dear Listers, >> >>Got a minor problem. Ever since I added a GiVi 50 to my PC the front >>end seems to wobble. This usually occurs between about 35 and 45 mph, >>and is more frequent at low RPMs and in the mornings when the tires are >>cold. Above about 55 mph the wobble is hardly noticeable. Same with >>very low speeds (under 25 mph) >> >>I have attempted to remedy the problem by adjusting the pre-load on the >>back both up and down and by changing the tire pressures (I've tried >>both maximum, middle, and minimum on front and rear). If I remove the >>topbox the problem is much reduced. Likewise if I'm riding with a >>passenger. >> >>Any recommendations on the tire pressure and pre-load settings to >>compensate for the extra weight? Any other rec's on how to eliminate >>the wobble? >> >>Chris Barrett >>98 PC800 "The PowerSlave" >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:49:59 +1200 To: PC800 Rider From: Richard Proctor Subject: PC800: GIVI topbox & Corbin backrest Is it possible to have both a Corbin backrest & a GIVI topbox rack both mounted at the same time?? Richard Proctor -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:12:16 EDT Subject: PC800: Re: Rider/Deer Accident To: qsystems@wt.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Sorry to hear of your loss...... I think a big lesson here is try not to ride at night in deer country..... if you must ride, you have to be three times as careful.... tz In a message dated 6/3/99 12:28:48 PM Central Daylight Time, qsystems@wt.net writes: << It is with very deep sadness that I write this note. A good friend and fellow motorcyclist (not on either of these lists) died night before last in Wyoming during the first leg of his planned Montana to Kansas solo trip. Tim was a good rider, always wore helmet and full Aerostitch, a very level-headed person, a physician, a family man with a loving wife and 2 teenagers. I don't have many details, but he apparently hit a deer at night in a mountainous area near Cody and died quickly at the scene. >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Iguanodon.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:21:17 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Jansen" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: rear suspension adjustment Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:29:00 +0200 Hi listers, my PC came without the gadget to adjust the rear suspension, does anyone = have a picture and size of this device , or a good alternative to adjust = the suspension ? thankx for the input Ron Jansen 22.6 K "Plastic Fantastic" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:12:17 -0500 Subject: PC800: Rear Shock Adjustment... Hi Ron, I think it matters little if you have the original tool. Mine only lasted for about three adjustments. I now use a pair of `Channel Lock` pliers to grip the adjustment tab. I have the best results when the bike is up on the center stand. Happy Motoring.... Rod Carey 94 PC800, (Monica) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:15:16 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: gwtalist@www.gwta.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, wings@armchair.mb.ca Subject: PC800: Gold Rush Hello all, I saw a mention of Greenville, SC in an email the other day, and info on a road nearby. I was hoping to get some more info. I will be heading to Greenville, for Gold Rush the week of July 19 - 24. Leaving from mid-Michigan. We will have at least two or three full days to get there and back, so we will not be in any hurry and will be looking to take some back roads, especially once we get into southern Indiana or Ohio. Wondering if anyone can give us any fun, good quality north-south roads in Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee, and western West Virginia, Virginia, and North Carolina. We have the maps but could use some input. TIA TommyTeal -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 95 ACE 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:29:55 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: H1157's As I mentioned before, I installed the H1157s on the posterior of my PC. I then realized how "dim" the originals really were, by comparing the H1157's to the center (# 168 license plate light bulb), which was still stock. Looking for an easy way to make the center light brighter, I installed a # 921 bulb (fits the original socket perfectly) that is rated at 16 watts. The H1157's are rated at 15 and 50 watts. Now the brightness of the three bulbs are balanced again. I really like the way the back end is lit up now. As I left my folks's house a few nights ago, Dad could still see my tailights when I was a little over 1 1/2 miles down the road. (I flashed my brake light every 1/2 mile). This is in the country, flat land. Rich -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id IAA70944 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:41:16 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:40:39 -0500 Subject: PC800: Re: A tip From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 >>>>Snowmobile "tank" bag... Velcro sewn into the bag... >>>Is the velcro how it attaches to the bike, though?... >>Yes. It is pretty heavy duty... >So, how did you attach the velcro to the bike?.. It is a 1" wide heavy duty velcro strip with adhesive on the back. I cut to size, affixed it to the bag, positioned the bag where I want it after removing the paper strip over the sticky side. After seriously cleaning the plastic, I stuck the strip on and smoothed it down, then let it sit a day. So far it is a good hold - doesn't budge when I pull the bag off. It will probably work loose some day, but for another $1 I can replace it. The one possible down side is adhesive sticking to the plastic if I ever decide to remove it, but I think that can be handled. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id IAA40364 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:45:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:44:36 -0500 Subject: PC800: Givi From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 I decided to buy the Givi topbox and ordered it yesterday. I chose the 50 liter box, and the backrest add-on. I saw somewhere here that the backrest was a waste of money, but couldn't convince my favorite passenger of that, so ... They charge an additional $80 for the gloss black (my PC is a 1994), so I stuck with the standard 'flat' black. Any tips for mounting it? Using it? Do most just leave it on all the time or ride without it until needed? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:14:16 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Givi To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu writes: >I decided to buy the Givi topbox and ordered it yesterday. I >chose the 50 liter box, and the backrest add-on. I saw somewhere >here that the backrest was a waste of money, but couldn't >convince my favorite passenger of that, so ... > >They charge an additional $80 for the gloss black (my PC is a >1994), so I stuck with the standard 'flat' black. > >Any tips for mounting it? Using it? Do most just leave it on all >the time or ride without it until needed? > >Rich >Madison, WI >1994 PC800: Jetson I have the 46 liter box and no back rest because I never carry passengers, but if I would invest in one if I did carry a passenger. I installed one on someone else's Givi E46 and it's as simple a drilling 2 holes, just make sure you use the template and align it accurately. Start with a small drill to make a pilot hole so the correct size drill doesn't move around while making its hole. I also took a rubber grommet, extras I had from Radio Shack, and cut it in half to use under each screw head inside the trunk to seal the hole around the screw head. This was to make sure it was still waterproof after drilling those holes. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:15:57 -0400 To: gwta@voyager.net, gwtalist@www.gwta.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, wings@armchair.mb.ca From: Rick Dinnis Subject: PC800: Re: [Wings] Gold Rush At 09:15 AM 6/4/99 -0400, Thomas Ongstad wrote: >Hello all, >Wondering if anyone can give us any fun, good quality north-south roads >in Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee, and western West Virginia, Virginia, >and North Carolina. We have the maps but could use some input. > Thomas - If I were making the trip out of Greenville heading in the direction you are heading, I would definitely want to make Deal's Gap a part of my trip. I have ridden that area quite a bit and it is difficult to pick a bad road anywhere. However, if I were to do it, I would do it as follows. Coming out of Greenville, SC I would pick up US 276 into Brevard, NC. Great road and it will start to condition you for the gap. If you are in Brevard for breakfast, you might want to stop at Kelly's. They have the best breakfast in town. If you are there for lunch, you might want to go to Bullwinkle's. They hand squeeze their own lemonade along with a lot of other homemade goods. >From Brevard, NC I would go down US 64 thru Highlands, NC. Highlands is a quaint looking little town with shop fronts that are almost on the street. After Highlands on US 64 are a number of waterfalls of which I believe the most spetacular to be Bridal Veil Falls. You should continue on US 64 until it junctions with US 28 just before Franklin, NC. Follow US 28 (final conditioning for the gap) until it ends as US 129. Located at this junction you will find the "Crossroads of Time" and the official start of "The Dragon" as Deal's Gap is affectionately known as. You will want to stop here to get t-shirts since there is nothing on the other end. After the next 11 miles your co-rider can tell you how great the scenery was (you will have been to busy handling all of the curves in the gap). Not sure where you want to go from there but there are lots of good road. If you are taking back roads most of the way, you will probably have about 30 hours worth of travel time to get home. That sounds like an awfully long 2 or 3 days. Have Fun. Rick Dinnis Stratford, CT '89 GL1500 - 180,000+ miles '94 VT1100C - 13,000+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:08:59 -0400 Subject: PC800: Honda Homecoming directions I have a similar question to one asked recently. I'll be travelling from Tuscaloosa, AL to Marysville OH for the Honda Homecoming. As the crow flies, that should take me though the heart of Tennessee and Kentucky before making it to Ohio. I'm thinking that getting there and back will be half the fun. Can you guys suggest any good roads, sites, restaurantes, etc. that I wouldn't want to miss? I'm giving myself two full days to get there, and two full days to get back. So I'm not necessarily interested in just the fastest or shortest way to get there. Shirly Gladen has already suggested Rt. 65 to Rt. 71. Thanks for your help. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:01:24 -0400 Subject: PC800: order directly from GIVI USA You can order directly from Givi USA, which I would recommend after having all this trouble with Competition Accessories. It doesn't save you any money, but at least you cut out the middle man. You can order by sending an e-mail to giviusa@mindspring.com requesting the model/color etc. I included my credit card information and requested a confirmation. I ordered yesterday afternoon and just got confirmation that they'll be shipping on Monday. Good luck. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id LAA71038 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:37:27 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:36:51 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Givi From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 > If is comes with the backrest unattached, mount it without the backrest > first and have your passenger try it. Then see if you can temporarily > tape the backrest into place and try it again. I really think they'll > be more comfortable without it. Too bad I found this out after I > drilled the holes for the backrest in the case. Now I have some little > plactic plugs where the backrest used to be. Oh well... Great suggestion. I am not sure I can return the backrest once received, but at least I won't have the holes if we decide not to use it. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Homecoming directions Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:42:10 -0700 If you are going through Paducah KY area,,you can always stop by and see the exciting Doug A, Bed and Breakfast..I offer a bed, (usually clean sheets), inside plumbing, (when it is working), and a breakfast,,(how do you like your corn flakes). We have nothing to see around here except the back yard,,and it ain't much...so if you want to come by and spend the night,,,be sure and make advance reservations.., and I will see if I am going to be home.. Hope to see ya'll. You could bring my niece and nephew along, they live in Tuscaloosa.. Let me know. Doug A. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 9:17 AM Subject: PC800: Honda Homecoming directions > > > >I have a similar question to one asked recently. > >I'll be travelling from Tuscaloosa, AL to Marysville OH for the Honda >Homecoming. As the crow flies, that should take me though the heart of >Tennessee and Kentucky before making it to Ohio. > >I'm thinking that getting there and back will be half the fun. Can you guys >suggest any good roads, sites, restaurantes, etc. that I wouldn't want to miss? > >I'm giving myself two full days to get there, and two full days to get back. So >I'm not necessarily interested in just the fastest or shortest way to get there. > >Shirly Gladen has already suggested Rt. 65 to Rt. 71. > >Thanks for your help. > >Doug Wilkerson > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:47:30 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Honda Homecoming directions To: di9731@vci.net Cc: dwilkers@us.ibm.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) di9731@vci.net writes: >If you are going through Paducah KY area,,you can always stop by >and see >the exciting Doug A, Bed and Breakfast..I offer a bed, (usually >clean >sheets), inside plumbing, (when it is working), and a >breakfast,,(how do you >like your corn flakes). >We have nothing to see around here except the back yard,,and it >ain't >much...so if you want to come by and spend the night,,,be sure and >make >advance reservations.., and I will see if I am going to be home.. >Hope to see ya'll. >You could bring my niece and nephew along, they live in >Tuscaloosa.. >Let me know. >Doug A. Sounds like this should be a franchise operation. How about Hill Billy's B & B. Then you could add some homemade brew to the menu:-) Wish I had one on my way to the Homecoming. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:07:35 -0700 (PDT) To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: meeting Buells & Harleys Doug, well now.. not to defend anyone in particular, but.. most of my truckin cohorts INVEST their money in Harleys and laugh at me over my poor investment! I simply say I can have 3 PC's: one to ride like I do, one to keep pretty and polished like Most Harleys that never see rain and one to put back in the bank and draw interest on my deposit, all for the price of their Harley ! NOW owning a PC is like having your cake and eating it too, dont you see? They ride with me even after the above lesson in economics, except when I get going too fast for their investment! :-) Jerry Kidby 90PC well used -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id ECAWP3SK; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:57:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:48:28 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: A tip From: Joyce D Calvert Hi Ryan, > >Do you know what this one was called? Did it come >with a rain cover? I can't remember the model number or name, I just know it was the smallest one. It has just one zipper and a map space, about 2 or 3 inches tall at the most. And no, it did not come with a rain cover. I tried the Chase Harper 750, >I didn't like it. No rain cover, and it was very >hard to get into once mounted on the bike. That's what I have now. I guess I like it because I carry so much crap. My 750 didn't come with a rain cover either. I would like to have one. >>And it mounts well? Can you get in to the gas tank >with it on? Thanks a lot, It mounted okay, with one strap wrapped around the fork assembly (carefully) and then attaching to the top of the bag. The problem with it for me was the attachment at the gas tank cover. There was only one clasp at the bottom of the bag that attached to the strap from under the crotch of the seat. BUT, i believe it had side clasps that could have been used like my 750 down the side of the tank instead. I just wanted a bigger bag. Joyce Sonoma County, Ca -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM (MTW) Cc: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu (jgoula), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap Juan uses more front brake WayUpNorth avoiding Moose and such. Jerry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:17:51 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Front Mud Flap shelley kidby wrote: > > Juan uses more front brake WayUpNorth avoiding Moose and such. > That's closer to the truth than I care to admit. So far the record is held by a bear =:-O -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:32:14 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: grandtour of europe just returned fromthree glorious weeks of touring europe. this is the post by pass vacation cancelled froma year ago duetosurgery... will share some interesting driving info flew to vienna austria and then rented station wagon as we were traveling withanothercouple.. we drove from vienna to salzburg then to innsbruck then to lcerne switz and neuchatel where my young son lives... the highway we traveled whichis their freeway (two lanes) are driven by what i think are professional drivers who really share the road and not tailgate or hog the lanes. they only use the left lane to pass and then immediatley go to the right lane.. after a great visit with son touring interlaken and montroux (beautifyl areas) we drove to the alsace area of france to komar and strasbourg inadvertently we entered germanyfor about 10 miles (nospeed limit) and they were flying past us doingabout 140 mph. it must take great skill to cruise at those speeds> before paris we stopped at rheims andsippedgreat champagne now driving into paris france is an experience never to be forgotten.. this city must have more scooters than anyother place on the planet!!!! the cars are cruising down the champs elysees doing about 50 mph and the scooters are cutting in and out like mosquitos.. around the arch d triumph (a huge traffic circle) its every man for himself no traffic marked lanes and about 5 rows of vehicles cutting in and out at will it was more fun th watch than the indy 500 lucikly we headed to avis rent a car as rapidly as possible the gist ofmy message to all listers is that we can learn a lot about proper driving habits from our friends on thc continent.. the weather was great and i would love totour it on a bike i counted a grand total of 6 pcs on this trip!!! and a honda deauville an interesting bike that i have never heard of anyway itsgood tobe back and hook up with everyone again best regards joel kasof cupertino calif 99 aspencade(black beauty) 98 pc (wong wing) 98 helix (dollar saver) 92bmw k-1 (blue rocket) gwrra 121491 p.s. gasolene was very epensive -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:20:50 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Givi To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/4/99 7:45:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu writes: << Do most just leave it on all the time or ride without it until needed? >> Hi Rich I was going to only use mine when I was going on trips, but it is so doggone handy to have that I have just left it on all the time. I have had mine for almost three years and I think that I would almost part with a testicle rather than my Givi box. Russ Vernon PS I said ALMOST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:42:39 -0500 From: Ralph Couey To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Givi >I have had mine for almost three years and I think that I would almost part with a >testicle rather than my Givi box. > > Russ Vernon Russ, I can see you must be "nuts" about it. --Ralph -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:20:27 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Givi It takes a lot of BALLS to make a comment like that! (or maybe just one?) > >>I have had mine for almost three years and I think that I would almost part with a >testicle rather than my Givi box. >> >> Russ Vernon > > >Russ, > >I can see you must be "nuts" about it. > >--Ralph >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > JPatton 89 PC800 94 Shadow VT1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "Ralph Couey" , Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:15:02 -0700 Booooooooo how punnny LMAO though Doug -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ralph Couey To: RVPC800@aol.com Cc: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 9:43 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Givi >>I have had mine for almost three years and I think that I would almost part with a >testicle rather than my Givi box. >> >> Russ Vernon > > >Russ, > >I can see you must be "nuts" about it. > >--Ralph >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:41:06 -0700 Subject: PC800: Won't start-- no life from the spark plugs. From: "Chuck Wildman" To: pc800 Mailing list Pushed the start button the other morning to head off to work and it 'fired once or twice' and then was completely unresponsive (no attempt to fire) after that. Continued cranking but didn't help and I could smell gas at the exhaust end (probably flooded). Let it sit for 4 hours till lunch and made another attempt. No sounds or life from the plugs and more gas smell (but no leaks at any tubes). Would presume some sort of ignition problem -- any experiences on this one ? (before I start tearing off all the panels). It's a 1996 model and has been flawlessly reliable till now. Chuck -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert Lechner" To: Cc: Subject: PC800: H1157's Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:47:23 -0400 I looked for H1157's at Auto Zone and WalMart. Can't find them. I = presume they are Halogen bulbs, with that 'H' prefix? They had H1156's = though. Strange. Rich: Where did you find them? Easy to find? Is the = 921 halogen? The ones I was able to find are small and look like the = old Instamatic Flashbulbs. Correct? Bob Lechner, Erie. PA 1998 PC800W "Rosebud" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:06:30 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: H1157's To: tiskippy@erie.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fenwick@nn.com From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) tiskippy@erie.net writes: >I looked for H1157's at Auto Zone and WalMart. Can't find them. >I presume they are Halogen bulbs, with that 'H' prefix? They had >H1156's though. Strange. Rich: Where did you find them? Easy to >find? Is the 921 halogen? The ones I was able to find are small >and look like the old Instamatic Flashbulbs. Correct? > >Bob Lechner, Erie. PA >1998 PC800W "Rosebud" Sport Touring Accessories has the H1157's listed in their online catalog (http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals1.htm ) for $9.00 each. They don't list the other one. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListServ" Subject: PC800: Looking for 97 or 98 PC Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:50:01 -0700 Have a friend lives south of San Fran, Ca. wanting to buy a 97 or 98 PC. Anybody out here have one for sale or knows of one. Thank You, John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "John & Rhoda Strode" Cc: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for 97 or 98 PC Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:25:29 -0700 >Have a friend lives south of San Fran, Ca. wanting to buy a 97 or 98 PC. >Anybody out here have one for sale or knows of one. > >Thank You, >John Hi (again) John, I don't know how far your friend is willing to travel, but the Honda dealer in Medford (on Crater Lake Blvd) has a 97 PC800 with ~2,500 miles on the clock. The bike looks pristine except for a do-it-yourself extender that has been added to the stock shield. As I recall, they're asking ~$5,500 (which I think is negociable). Hope this helps. Roger Bowen Grants Pass, Oregon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. Fenwick" To: Subject: Re: PC800: H1157's Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:31:40 -0500 I ordered the H1157's from Dennis Kirk ($9/ea.). The other place that I found them was JC Whitney ($9.95/ea.). They are a Halogen and the price is always about $9.00 each. The 921 for the center I found at Auto Zone. It was from Sylvania and was called a 921LL (LL for long life). Right on the bulb was printed "16W". It is not halogen. I believe the automotive use for these are CHMSL's. (Center High Mounted Stop Lights) a.k.a. third brake lights. As far as looking like the old instamatic flashbulbs.... Um.... I'd have to ask my dad. I'm guessing that I'm probably the youngest PC owner on here. The 921 looks like an overgrown version of the 168 that Honda installed factory. Same base, but the lamp portion itself is about 3x bigger. Funny - yesterday, I had (let me figure here) 9 people come up to me and talk to me about the PC. Friday when I was on my lunch hour, while sitting at a stop light, I had a guy asking me questions driving a Ford pickup from the next lane over. Here in the mid-west (Illinois specifically): 1. Most people have no clue what it is. (It seems that most Honda dealers here didn't carry them when they were new. Therefore, finding a "trade in" is a difficult task.) I have done some homework and found that mine came from Steve Wilson's favorite Honda dealership, down there in Ruston LA. Not sure how mine it made it to IL from LA, but I'm trying to reconstruct that. Steve, Thanks for your help. I owe you one. What a great guy. 2. Most think it is brand new (it's a very well kept '90) 3. The "kids" (college age and younger) on their crotch rockets are half scared to taunt me (see #1) Remember that when these bikes came out 10 years ago, these kids had just gotten rid of their training wheels just a few years earlier... 4. A good portion ask to the effect of "What the hell is it?" and when I tell them it's a Honda Pacific Coast, they'll respond "Yes, I can read that, what the hell is it?" I had only had it for 6 hours before a guy riding a Harley insulted it. I had already figured my response. "Well, I only had to own it for 6 hours for someone to insult it. I'm surprised it took so long". 5. How many cc's? Shaft Drive? How's it ride? 6. And my favorite - "OH MY GOD, LOOK AT THE ROOM IN THAT TRUNK!" In closing here, I'm looking for a Hondaline Tall windshield. I'm about ready to break down and buy a new one, but someone has to have one they aren't using (along with other accessories). Let's post them here and sell them to new homes. I'd also consider similar Rifle/Clearview. I'm 6 foot 3 and the stock one is starting to drive me nuts. I inquired to Vartan about the Rifle 30 that was posted earlier, but that's going to be too tall for me according to his descriptions. Thanks all - sorry this was so long. Rich... 1990 PC800L 17,800 miles Thinking of calling it "Mephesto". ---------- > From: PC800 Rider > To: tiskippy@erie.net > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; fenwick@nn.com > Subject: Re: PC800: H1157's > Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 7:06 PM > > tiskippy@erie.net writes: > >I looked for H1157's at Auto Zone and WalMart. Can't find them. > >I presume they are Halogen bulbs, with that 'H' prefix? They had > >H1156's though. Strange. Rich: Where did you find them? Easy to > >find? Is the 921 halogen? The ones I was able to find are small > >and look like the old Instamatic Flashbulbs. Correct? > > > >Bob Lechner, Erie. PA > >1998 PC800W "Rosebud" > > Sport Touring Accessories has the H1157's listed in their online > catalog (http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals1.htm ) for $9.00 each. > They don't list the other one. > > Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > HRCA #HM100878 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT) To: cwildman98@earthlink.net (Chuck Wildman) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800 Mailing list) Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start-- no life from the spark plugs. Chuck, ' flawlessly reliable ' suggests you have bumped your OFF/RUN switch up above the start button. Check that it is toggled to the RUN position then try to start. Jerry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:44:30 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: shelley kidby CC: Chuck Wildman , pc800 Mailing list Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start-- no life from the spark plugs. I second the message below but would add 'try flipping the OFF/RUN switch about a dozen times. - Had this happen once after a run in heavy rain - Thought it might be dampness or oxidation - don't know what it actually was but that did the trick. Good luck. Steve shelley kidby wrote: > Chuck, > ' flawlessly reliable ' suggests you have bumped your OFF/RUN switch > up above the start button. Check that it is toggled to the RUN position > then try to start. > > Jerry > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECF9AA3X; Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:38:35 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:39:57 -0700 Subject: PC800: GHOSTWEAR Hi! 1) RIDIN' NOT READIN': I'm still off-list 'cause I'm busy ridin' instead of readin'. *ZOOM* I did an 18-day solo ride from AZ to Ozarks April-May; 4-Day North Rim Grand Canyon, Lake Powell run with David Smith near end of May; Two-Day Coronado Trail "race" with crotch-rockets end of May. There IS one problem. Work is starting to interfere with my ride schedule. (She grumbled and whined.) Now I have a dilemma. Should I ride with the sportbikers to Laguna Seca Superbike Races in July -OR- join the PCers for pre-TGPPCHY2KTP in Sept? I can't do both. 2) GHOST SEATING: During the past week, David Smith, PC Genius and Mechanic Extraordinaire ('98 PC, Minerva) has done sooo much to my Ghost ('89 PC) that I'll never be able to die. It'll take me a lifetime to repay his kindnesses, not to mention the knowledge he imparted to me. In the process of upgrading the Ghost for more ride pleasure, David allowed me to ride Minerva. First, I didn't want to give Minerva back. She's new, tight, squeaky clean, and handles like a dream. Second, the seat cut is a lot narrower and height infinitely better than my '89's! It allowed me to put one foot flat while touching with the ball of the other foot. A first for my 4' 14" frame on a stock PC seat. So, we put Minerva's seat on the Ghost. It was a match and it fit my short legs much much better. QUESTION: DOES ANYONE HAVE A STOCK '98 PC SEAT FOR SALE AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE? Please respond off-list directly to me. Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------- For those NOT interested in the gorey details of David's surgical proceedings on the ghost, delete now. 3) David has the patience of Job and the Midas Touch with motor driven things. Needless to say, I am THRILLED with everything he's done. BUMPER-TO-BUMPER SERVICE: AKA: The Ghost With No Clothes. Not a pretty sight, but verrry interesting! In the process of upgrading the Ghost, David cheerfully (IMAGINE) took off almost every single piece of her tupperware armor including instrument panel plastic -- all of it!. I can see the headlines now: Ghost Exposed In Glendale! Yep, I took lots of pictures. I should note that when he re-dressed her, all the pieces looked and fit better than when he began. *AMAZING* a) HORNS ($20). Should cause folks to tremble and ask, "Is that Peter or Mack knock-knock-knockin at my door?" He put the same horns on Minerva and you should hear 'em when we blast simultaneously. *AWESOME* b) Upscale COMPASS that's adjustable (N-S, E-W and tilt) and works really well! Already helped U-Turn-Anni avoid two u-turns. Mounted on bottom portion of coolant cover on right hand side. Looks Star Trekian. *COOL* c) ELECTRICAL SOCKET (Cig Lighter) for such useful accessories as : Fuzz Buster (which I must shop for immediately -- she said with childish delight); Air Compressor (for blowin' people off); Floodlight (so I can see the nice officer....BEFORE he sees me); Cattle Prod (when nothing else gets the slow cager outta my way), Red & Blue Flashing Lights (for the numb nutz who ignores the prod), blah blah blah. Mounted on top portion of coolant cover on right hand side. It's small with waterproof cover. Almost unnoticeable. d) TRUNK LIGHT KIT. Boy, is this a useful item! Especially for me, who carries sooo much schtuff. In order to install the lights, we had to completely empty both cheeks of the Ghost's trunk and the schtuff bungied outside and atop, too. The ducktail and trunk lid and both seats had to be removed as well. *NO PROBLEMA* (....for David!) The Ghost's load consumed fully one half to three quarters of the back of David's pickup truck. *SHEEESH, Ms. Mayflower* e) DASHBOARD LIGHTS: Replaced all 10 bulbs. One of the two speedometer bulbs had burned out and nighttime speed was tricky to observe (guess at). Wow, what a difference! The whole instrument panel looks brand new, only tattle tale is the 50,300 mile odom. (Side Note: She had 9,400 when I bot her 3 years ago. Can you tell how much I like this bike? *HEH HEH*) f) CENTER BRAKE LIGHT: Replaced "dead" center brake light bulb. (Bulb shown in manual was different than actual -- 'cause I have such an early model??) g) CLEANER THAN NEW: Cleaned and spiffed up dash area so well, it looks like new. Doesn't look like my bike at all. I luv it! h) BROKEN TABS: Fixed two broken plastic tabs with metal strapping; the tabs hold/stabilize the side plastic pieces used for knee-griping. The tabs are not visible from outside, internal only. Altho he did such a slick job that they look fine from any angle. i) UNIQUE OIL CHANGE: Double-Drained oil and "bled the system." I don't exactly know how to explain this, but David got ALL the old oil out before adding the new. I've never had such a COMPLETE oil service. Ever!! Well, gotta go shopping for a fuzz buster, cattle prod etc etc. *GRIN* Take care and keep in touch. i.e. forward me any juicy List posts. Ann '89 PC-AZ, GHOSTESS WITH THE MOSTESS Sun. 6.6.99 14:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Norway Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 02:04:11 +0200 I'm back, I'm tired and I'm going to bed. I've ridden 3000 miles (4800 km) in the last 9 days so I'm pretty exhausted. But I had a great time. The trip report will follow later, the pictures also (took more than 100 pictures, can you believe it ?) as soon as they're flown in from Stavanger because I left them at Arvid's place. We do have one succesfull image for you guys from Arvid's borrowed digicam. The rest was too bad because it had been on Macro mode all the time. This is the preview: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/norway/fjord.jpg More for later. Gotta dream about those fjords again. Can't wait to go back...... Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ronrus@webtv.net (Ron Russell) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:11:04 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetingsfrommembers.tripod.com/~pc800 Update: I put on a Clearview +5 windsreen this weekend and I can tell a real difference over the stock windscreen. (I am 6' 3".) I actually heard the tires (and certainly the engine) at 70 mph, something I had never heard before. At that speed, I am looking (at the road) about an inch over the top of the windscreen. When I turn my head to look at something, it does not feel like my head is going to be blown backwards, like before. I like that. However around town, at much slower speeds, I tend to look through it instead of over it, because it is rather tall. I wonder if I went too far in trying to get a lot of wind blockage on the highway. What is the best heighth to be able to see? I would appreciate any comments. Also, the Clearview is a little wider (2 " on each side) with a little bulge on the sides, making the plastic piece between the headlight and the air vent a little tricky to fit. Eventually it worked out. I got the (very) light gray tint for $177 delivered. It looks good on my red 97. I went 90 miles on it this afternoon. We are bonding. I hope everyone has a much fun as I did this afternoon. Have a great summer. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:21:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Tank Bag "Rich Gross" writes: > I am looking for a very small "tank" bag for my PC. It only needs > to hold a pair of sunglasses, a cell phone, and a few trinkets. A > map window on the outside would be nice. I do not need or want > even a 12 liter deal, just a pouch. Say, 9" x 5" or so. Take a look at the REI "Muskrat" side pack. This is made from packcloth nylon, and measures approximately 13" x 7" x 3". It has a map pocket on top, and a 2-pull zipper into the main compartment. The bottom has a double row of "ladder" straps. I fitted an old computer mousepad into the ladder straps (to provide both some cushioning and, via the textured rubber, friction), then used flat nylon straps to attach the bag to the tank of my Hawk. I liked it so much that I bought another one for the tail section of the seat. $12. REI makes another bag of similar dimensions (possibly a little wider) that is made from foam-reinforced nylon, which gives a little more shape. I believe it runs $20. Velcro with adhesive backing might work, but I would worry about the long term effects of the adhesive on the paint of the shelter. I also have a 7" x 5" x 3" nylon zipper bag that I got as a freebie at a trde show that would attach nicely with Velcro to the area above the coolant tank. REI or K Mart or Target should have small camera or CD or cassette bags of about these dimensions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:33:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Helmet choice - Nolan or no Richard Proctor writes: > I had pretty much decided on a Nolan N100 based on the good reports > on this list. However I find the chin strap uncomfortable. The buckle bothered me at first; after a month or so, I got used to it. I would not like to go back to a traditional D-ring. The miniature "seat belt" latch is really handy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:47:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End I've been told by a PC800 owner (not on this list) that a mechanic recommended fitting a Battlax BT50 radial to stop the front end wiggle. He did, and says it was totally effective. I never noticed this with a K555 with 12,000 miles, nor with the BT50 that I fitted last month. Your mileage may vary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeffguntert@taconic.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:21:05 -0400 Subject: PC800: PC items 4sale Reply-to: jeffguntert@taconic.net Hello PCers... I finally sold my 1996 PC this weekend and have a few accessories for sale. If anyone is interested please contact me directly at jeffguntert@taconic.net. Thanks! Jeffrey A. Guntert Albany, NY Corbin saddle w/red piping (5,000 miles on it) $300.00 Tall Hondaline Shield $100.00 Rifle Fairing (standard height and base) $125.00 Hondaline front mud flap (brand new) $35.00 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:26:05 EDT Subject: PC800: Radio To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I wonder if this would work on bikes? Bernie 94 PC 52K Overland Park,KS Motorola Introduces Next Generation of Two-Way Radio Technology; Wireless Solution Helps Businesses Increase Efficiency and Productivity ATLANTA, June 7 /PRNewswire/ -- Motorola today introduced an advanced two-way radio designed to help businesses increase efficiency and overall productivity. The new Motorola Spirit GT Professional Two-Way Radio provides the ability for multiple people to talk to each other simultaneously at the push of a button. Motorola, the leader in two-way radio technology for more than 70 years, developed Spirit GT in response to customer demand for short-range technology solutions to provide today's businesses with a competitive edge. Motorola Spirit GT Professional Two-Way Radios enable instant on-site communications for businesses requiring immediate access to their staff. Once considered only for construction, maintenance and security, now two-way radio technology has evolved to also be an effective means of streamlining operations for retailers, restaurants, hotels, nightclubs, schools, property management and day care facilities. Unlike alternative communications solutions, such as pagers and cellular phones, Motorola Spirit Two-Way Radios are available at a one-time cost and do not incur monthly charges or service fees. The new Motorola Spirit GT Radio is a sleeker next generation of the "walkie-talkie" with a unique feature set and a compact, lightweight framework designed especially for commercial application. Developed to withstand the rigors of daily use, the new Motorola Spirit GT Radios come with a built-in hands-free capability and professional-quality amplification to combat high ambient noise levels. Motorola Spirit GT Radios are ideal for professional settings with standard features that include a call tone function to alert users of an incoming transmission. Operating Motorola Spirit GT Two-Way Radios is as easy as pushing a button. "Our entire hotel staff uses Motorola Spirit Professional Two-Way Radios, from our executive housekeeper to our maintenance engineer," said Cecilia Bell, general manager of Fairfield Inn in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. "They are the ideal means of communication to help us provide superior guest services." The new Motorola Spirit GT Radios are available in one- and two-channel models, and operate on frequencies reserved exclusively for business use. Each radio has a built-in Interference Eliminator to block out unwanted channel chatter, and has a talk range of up to 200,000 square feet and 15 floors indoors and up to four miles outdoors. In addition, a variety of accessories further customize Motorola Spirit GT Radios. Rechargeable NiMH batteries provide a long lasting, reliable radio. Lightweight headsets reduce ambient noise and a versatile carry case with three alternative ways of wearing it protects the radios. "These reliable, easy-to-use radios provide businesses with a cost-effective wireless solution for quick, clear communications," said Motorola brand manager, Kimberly Lovelace. "Among the many benefits, using Motorola Spirit GT Two-Way Radios can help an apartment manager locate the maintenance supervisor to respond to a leaking faucet or a cashier find the one stock person who knows the sale price of the red cashmere sweater." Motorola Spirit GT Radios are backed by a one-year, U.S. limited replacement warranty and have a manufacturer's suggested retail price starting at $189. To locate the nearest retailer of Motorola Spirit GT Professional Two-Way Radios, call 1-800-448-6686, ext. 1000 or access the Spirit homepage at www.motorola.com/spirit . SOURCE Motorola -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:35:50 EDT Subject: PC800: driver's backrest To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I was going to order a Utopia backrest last night, but their ship date is now out to July 23. Utopia has had an unusually high number of orders this year and is assembling and shipping as fast as they can. However, I am going to be leaving on a 5 day trip on July 11 and have decided I would enjoy the trip more with a backrest. I have sent them an e-mail to try to coax them into an earlier ship date, but maybe someone on the list has a gray one available for sale - 89' PC800. I may even consider a used Corbin seat. Thanks in advance Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:13:36 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: BernieK469@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Radio BernieK469@aol.com wrote: > I wonder if this would work on bikes? > Here is a radio setup that also might work. $800 for 2 radios and headsets. Range is 3 miles. I don't have or know anything about these but here is their link. http://www.earplugco.com/newpage3.htm -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.uscom.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 08:01:06 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Greetingsfrommembers.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:51:31 -0400 >actually heard the tires (and certainly the engine) at 70 mph, something >I had never heard before. At that speed, I am looking (at the road) >about an inch over the top of the windscreen. When I turn my head to >look at something, it does not feel like my head is going to be blown >backwards, like before. I like that. > However around town, at much slower speeds, I tend to look through it >instead of over it, because it is rather tall. I wonder if I went too >far in trying to get a lot of wind blockage on the highway. What is the >best heighth to be able to see? I would appreciate any comments. I have the 3+ and I'm 5' 9" and I just got back from my first trip with it with much the same results as you. those tires realy buzz, I thought they were low on air but there ok. I can put away the ear plugs! I was always told while sitting in your normal riding position that you should just be able to look over the top of the shield. From your message, It seems you have the correct hight -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End To: Selden Deemer , PC 800 List What size Battlax BT50? Do they make the correct PC800 front tire size? --- Selden Deemer wrote: > I've been told by a PC800 owner (not on this list) that a mechanic > recommended fitting a Battlax BT50 radial to stop the front end > wiggle. He did, and says it was totally effective. I never noticed > this with a K555 with 12,000 miles, nor with the BT50 that I fitted > last month. Your mileage may vary. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Selden Deemer > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: jhart@mail.lewiston.lib.me.us cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:05:58 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: vendor report >Would you be interested in selling the Candy Red one [Givi Topcase], instead of trying >to get your money back? Yes, I would be very interested in selling it. I only paid $196 for it, since I paid for a flat black one. I ordered a painted Ducati Red one from Givi for $249. So, if you want it, I'll sell it to you for what I paid (196) plus whatever shipping! That's a fifty dollar discount you get on account of Comp Access mistake! And it's spankin' new! Whaddya say? Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: John Scalisi cc: PC 800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End I'm running a 120/70-17. This is a lower aspect ratio than the 120/80 of the stock tire. It will throw the odometer off by about 4%. The guy who said his mechanic recommended switching to a Battlax to stabilize the front end used a 110, but I don't know if it was a 70 or 90% aspect ratio. Cost was $99 off the floor at Roswell Fun Machines. Bridgestone also has a new H-rated bias tire, the BT45, which supposedly has a longer-wearing tread compound: High-performance and long life from dual tread construction. New silica compound inproves grip characteristics - wet or dry. Large crown radius for a large, stable contact patch. Innovative Singular Side Wall improves shock absorption and neutralizes handling. H- and V-rated tubeless design; blackwall only. Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse offers the following sizes/pricing for the BT45: (68392) $103.95 Bridgestone BT-45 110/80HR17 Front (68391) $103.95 Bridgestone BT-45 110/70HR17 Front (68393) $106.95 Bridgestone BT-45 120/70HR17 Front In general, it's perfectly find to put a lower profile tire on a wheel; differences in width are more problematic, but the PC800 front wheel is designed for a 120 mm tire, so no problem there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, John Scalisi wrote: > What size Battlax BT50? Do they make the correct PC800 front tire > size? > > --- Selden Deemer wrote: > > I've been told by a PC800 owner (not on this list) that a mechanic > > recommended fitting a Battlax BT50 radial to stop the front end > > wiggle. He did, and says it was totally effective. I never noticed > > this with a K555 with 12,000 miles, nor with the BT50 that I fitted > > last month. Your mileage may vary. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Selden Deemer > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > > a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:34:38 EDT Subject: PC800: Utopia driver's backrest To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu E-mailed these guys last night - received a response this morning! Although they cannot accommodate my desired ship date, if I cannot find a used backrest through the list, I will absolutley purchase from such a conscientious company! Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:38:09 -0400 From: Janet Spencer To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: OFF:dropping off temporarily Folks- I'm temporarily unsubscribing to the PC800 list. Through a glitch I had with email today at work, I discovered that I 'do not exist' in the system, and in order to make me exist, I'm probably going to have my email address altered. To make it as simple as possible to clean up the carnage, I'm unsubscribing until this is cleared up. Meanwhile, should any of you need to contact me, use my AOL address: Peddycoat@aol.com Keep the rubber to the road! Janet Spencer 1995 Pacific Coast Virginia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:11:12 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Jansen" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: To; Emile Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:19:43 +0200 Emile,=20 om de een of andere reden kan ik je niet meelen op je cybercom adres = vanuit mijn huis . Gaaf dat je toch naar Noorwegen kon. Ik zit inmiddels al 3 weken ziek thuis en heb na mijn vraag over hoe je = van mijn wing wist geen meel meer gezien. Die adjuster zou ik graag hebben, ik ga a.s vrijdag 2 weken naar spanje = maar daarna wil ik graag met je afspreken om een vlucht te maken. Momenteel ben ik te meelen op EREL.JEE@SP-PLUS.NL en tel is 020 6978613. Ik hoor van je=20 Ron -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:44:55 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: GHOSTWEAR Hello Ann, glad to hear your PC is now in better-than-new condition. Interesting to see that there might be a difference in the seat profiles between year models. Could this be because of the shape the seat takes over the years (no rude comments, guys!) Might be interesting to find a low mileage '89 seat and compare. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rthomass@ccmail.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:18:37 -0700 To: PC800 , annreid@juno.com Importance: normal Subject: PC800: Seats X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 Content-Id: <1711199503-1@inetmail1.ccmail.com> --MIME MULTIPART BOUNDARY=.928786317:+'1 Content-Id: <1711199503-2@inetmail1.ccmail.com> The 1989 through 1996 PC800s have the same seats. The '97 and '98 are a bi= t smaller than prior years. I believe that the mounting hardware is slightly different as well. A former list member tried to buy a Corbin seat and couldn't get one to fit= =2E He had a '97 as I recall. He went to the Corbin factory in Hollister, CA for = a custom fit and none of their existing inventory of PC800 seats would fit on= to his bike. He was going to bring the bike to the factory again this past wi= nter. I don't think that he did as I hear that he traded the PC800 in towards a B= MW. I don't believe that the '89 to '96 PC800s will take a seat from a '97 or '= 98. = Check with a Honda dealer for the part numbers. Roy ____________________Reply Separator____________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: GHOSTWEAR Author: jgoula Date: 6/7/99 12:44 PM Hello Ann, glad to hear your PC is now in better-than-new condition. Interesting to see that there might be a difference in the seat profiles be= tween year models. Could this be because of the shape the seat takes over the yea= rs (no rude comments, guys!) Might be interesting to find a low mileage '89 se= at and compare. -- = Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85=B0N, Long.: 147.72=B0W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks = (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: New Tires Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:35:58 -0400 Dennis Kirk does it right. Just got home and found a set of Metzler ML2 Marathons on my back porch. I ordered them Thursday afternoon! Both tires totaled out @ $229, signed, sealed and delivered! How can that be? (you ask). They total $307.98 in their catalog! Easy, I found an ad in the June issue of "Motorcyclist" (free subscription thanks to this list) and call Dennis Kirk and say "I found them CHEAPER". They were very friendly and professonal (these qualities don't have to be mutually exclusive). They even knew what a PC was! The operator was very enthusiastic when she found out I had seven weeks of vacation, a PC AND new tires ordered!! I didn't tell her that a chunk of those 7 weeks was earmarked for a total kitchen renovation. (This is payback for the 3 weeks my wife let me take off and ride to Alaska.) I'll do business with them again. Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio and now back to the kitchen........... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:35:13 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Seats rthomass@ccmail.com wrote: > I don't believe that the '89 to '96 PC800s will take a seat from a > '97 or '98. > Check with a Honda dealer for the part numbers. Roy, what you say makes sense, but Ann wrote: > So, we put Minerva's [1998 model] seat on the Ghost. It was a match and > it fit my short legs much much better. It could be that the stock pan is more flexible (compared to Corbin's) and thus you can "make-it-fit." Also, if memory serves, the color and the stitching pattern are different on the '97-'98, so part numbers will likely be different, even if the shapes are the same. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What do snowmobile riders call the last ice age? "The good old days." ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:50:55 -0700 (PDT) To: MWHITED@COLUMBUS.RR.COM (MTW) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires --WebTV-Mail-2072783930-14535 just gotta.. I paid 229.00 for my set of ML2 from San Diego's House of Motorcycles 4-14-99 (they add in Motorcyclist also) guess ya coulda got em for 228.00 :-) Jerry Kidby --WebTV-Mail-2072783930-14535 postoffice-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:36:38 -0700 mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id NAA24305; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAC01264; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:36:33 -0500 (CDT) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26637 for ; storm.twcol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA00712 for ; ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: New Tires Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:35:58 -0400 Dennis Kirk does it right. Just got home and found a set of Metzler ML2 Marathons on my back porch. I ordered them Thursday afternoon! Both tires totaled out @ $229, signed, sealed and delivered! How can that be? (you ask). They total $307.98 in their catalog! Easy, I found an ad in the June issue of "Motorcyclist" (free subscription thanks to this list) and call Dennis Kirk and say "I found them CHEAPER". They were very friendly and professonal (these qualities don't have to be mutually exclusive). They even knew what a PC was! The operator was very enthusiastic when she found out I had seven weeks of vacation, a PC AND new tires ordered!! I didn't tell her that a chunk of those 7 weeks was earmarked for a total kitchen renovation. (This is payback for the 3 weeks my wife let me take off and ride to Alaska.) I'll do business with them again. Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio and now back to the kitchen........... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-2072783930-14535-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:02:27 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Seats To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) rthomass@ccmail.com writes: >A former list member tried to buy a Corbin seat and couldn't get >one to fit. He >had a '97 as I recall. He went to the Corbin factory in >Hollister, CA for a >custom fit and none of their existing inventory of PC800 seats >would fit onto >his bike. He was going to bring the bike to the factory again >this past winter. >I don't think that he did as I hear that he traded the PC800 in >towards a BMW. > >I don't believe that the '89 to '96 PC800s will take a seat from a >'97 or '98. >Check with a Honda dealer for the part numbers. I bought a Corbin seat for my 1998 Pacific Coast last year in July and it fit perfectly. I ordered it at the Honda Homecoming from Corbin and it was shipped from Calif. I've since taken it off and put it back on several times with no problem. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:23:47 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: shelley kidby CC: MTW , PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires I had to replace my front tire this week end and tried for a Dunlop K177 which is what I had on there, but couldn't find one. Had to settle for a K555. Got it at Donellson Cycles here in St. Louis. $76 for the tire and $40 to mount it. They handle mail orders. Steve DeLorey shelley kidby wrote: > just gotta.. I paid 229.00 for my set of ML2 from San Diego's House of > Motorcycles 4-14-99 (they add in Motorcyclist also) > > guess ya coulda got em for 228.00 :-) > > Jerry Kidby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: PC800: New Tires > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:35:58 -0400 > From: "MTW" > To: "PC800" > > Dennis Kirk does it right. > > Just got home and found a set of Metzler ML2 Marathons on my back porch. I > ordered them Thursday afternoon! Both tires totaled out @ $229, signed, > sealed and delivered! > How can that be? (you ask). They total $307.98 in their catalog! > > Easy, I found an ad in the June issue of "Motorcyclist" (free subscription > thanks to this list) and call Dennis Kirk and say "I found them CHEAPER". > They were very friendly and professonal (these qualities don't have to be > mutually exclusive). They even knew what a PC was! > > The operator was very enthusiastic when she found out I had seven weeks of > vacation, a PC AND new tires ordered!! I didn't tell her that a chunk of > those 7 weeks was earmarked for a total kitchen renovation. (This is payback > for the 3 weeks my wife let me take off and ride to Alaska.) > > I'll do business with them again. > > Mike Whited ' 94 PC > Columbus Ohio > > and now back to the kitchen........... > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECJX3WTU; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:55:32 EDT To: rthomass@ccmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:54:28 -0700 Subject: PC800: SEAT EXCHANGE Roy, Thanks for the info! Tim Davies of '98 Yankee Smuggler fame in NY state, has offered to sell me his stock '98 seats for 1/2 of Honda's price. I am going to take him up on his generous offer. I physically tested David Smith's '98 driver's seat on my '89 and it's a perfect fit .... including my bum. *Oooooh Aaaaah* Ann Mon. 6.7.99 15:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by m4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECJX3WUP; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:55:32 EDT To: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:58:09 -0700 Subject: PC800: PICKING @ MY SEAT, HUH?! Juan, In addition to my orignal '89 seat which I had cut-to-fit my bum in Sturgis in 1996, I have a brand new '89 stock seat (almost free from Honda). Long story. Anywho, the answer to your "bum question" is NO! The original unadulterated '89 seat IS WIDER and DEEPER than the '98. Works for me. Don't go THERE! *HEH HEH* Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghost-Sitter Mon. 6.7.99 15:15 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: For Sale Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:40:59 -0500 For Sale: 1990, Pacific Coast (Ruby Red) New Works Performance Shocks and fork springs - about 4,000 miles New Metzler tires - about 4,000 miles New battery in 1998 OEM backrest K&N air filter Throttlemeister throttle lock 89 OEM windscreen and 90 OEM windscreen In dash voltmeter - analog - marine quality In dash clock - analog - marine quality Shop Manual OEM owners manual Original OEM tool kit Oil changed and filter changed every 3,000 miles 38.7 K miles $3,500 USA cosmetically in very good condition Located in Pella, IA ph. 515-628-2964 Michael Brown e-mail: ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net Reply off list to above address No maintainence problems at all - just interested in getting a different motorcycle. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:42:33 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:42:19 -0400 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Trivia To: HondaPacificCoastOwners charset=ISO-8859-1 Someone asked what to do about the rear trunk area regarding its bare appearance. I put a silver "Pacific Coast" decal from my '90 on the back of my '97, centering it at the bottom of the center panel, about 1" from the bottom.= It matches the silver of my Givi Maxia top box, and I like the looks of i= t. The letters are square and look good on the back, whereas the decals on t= he sides are slanted, and look good on the side but wouldn't look as good on= the back, IMHO. I removed the Honda decals from the fairing. They don't look like they belong on a motorcycle, but perhaps on a refrigerator, IMHO! I put ST1100= Honda wing decals on my '90, but like the clean look of my '97 without them. While I am not interested in the higher wattage taillight bulbs, I wonder= if the increased heat will melt the lenses? A couple of other accessories that I like are the Saeng Stealth windscree= n edging and the Throttlemeister. Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:42:50 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:42:16 -0400 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Seats and stuff... To: HondaPacificCoastOwners charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a Corbin seat on my '90 Pacific Coast, and kept it when I sold the bike to Cory Estes. I had the seat removed and installed by my mechanic at Champion Honda, an= d he had no problem at all. So...whether the stock seats are different is beyond me, but a Corbin sea= t for a '90 PC l will fit a '97 PC. Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:32:15 -0500 (CDT) To: PC800 From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Vendor Report (was Re: PC800: New Tires) of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:23:47 CDT." <375C4673.DD618D56@mo.net> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:32:14 -0500 Steve DeLorey writes: > I had to replace my front tire this week end and tried for a Dunlop K177 which > is what I had on there, but couldn't find one. Had to settle for a K555. Got it > at Donellson Cycles here in St. Louis. $76 for the tire and $40 to mount it. > They handle mail orders. They'd mount the tire via mail order? :-) At 3275 miles my '98 PC grew a nail in the rear tire last week. Probably the week before as there was a 10 day spell of no riding. Anyhow I pulled the wheel Friday night. Took it to my closest motorcycle shop, Midway Cycle Salvage, between Huntsville and Athens, Alabama. This place is the dumpiest cycle shop I've ever seen. Acres of wrecks. Stray cats everywhere. Roofs thrown up to cover the more precious parts. Clapboard siding to keep most of the wind out. About 1/2 mile off Highway 72 on a 1-lane tar and gravel road. Chain link fences around most stuff. Parts littering the "parking lot". Grass is about 3' high around the perimeter. Many years ago customers were allowed to walk their lots. Now you have to be a *good* well known customer to do that. Peeping thru a hole last year I saw a PC there. Don't know if its still there or not. They have a 3-storey main building that I would guess has at least as much floor space as Competition Accessories in Ohio. Midway has the nicest people. It appears everybody is family (possibly because only family would work for the wage?). Just in case, checked and found a Dunlop 491 in stock, size 140/90-15, $110. Didn't buy a new tire as we agreed my old one was repairable. Else I was thinking about the tire on the PC I saw there last year. In at 9AM when they opened and everyone was still waking up. Out at 10:10AM. Tire removed from my rim. Spread. A patch/plug (both in one) applied from the inside. Tire remounted. Balanced. $13.00 total. Am told they usually charge $7 more if they have to remove the wheel from the bike. A year or two ago a friend took a Suzuki Intruder 1400 there with a new back tire he bought elsewhere. Must have been a slow day, else they really liked his Suzuki, but the charge to mount and balance the tire was $10. Expect I'll need new tires next year. I'll let Midway order the right sizes and mount the tires. If it wasn't for balancing the assembly I might mount them myself. But at these rates I can't afford to do it myself. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "M. L." Subject: PC800: 97 for sale To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu 1997 Pacific Coast for sale! 5,800 miles bought new in Sept, 1998 (2+yrs on warranty) Hondaline backrest Wong Wing spoiler SAENG edging (stock windshield) PC glovebox $5900.00 will also make good deal on Shoei rf-800 helmet; battery tender; dry rider rainsuit; tour-master bungee bag. I think this is a fair price considering that Kelly's Blue Book (www.kbb.com) lists it for $6890; and NADA lists it for $6510, plus the fact that I have several hundred dollars in accessories. E-mail me direct and I will tell you more, send you pics, or give you my phone number. I live in Bluefield, WV. (I-77 on WV/VA border) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "shelley kidby" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:13:31 -0400 Actually that was the add that I used, when I call them, shipping was $22 to Columbus. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: shelley kidby To: MTW Cc: PC800 Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:48 PM Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires just gotta.. I paid 229.00 for my set of ML2 from San Diego's House of Motorcycles 4-14-99 (they add in Motorcyclist also) guess ya coulda got em for 228.00 :-) Jerry Kidby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Steve DeLorey" , "shelley kidby" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:23:09 -0400 I had that option too, but I wanted to try a high milage tire -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve DeLorey To: shelley kidby Cc: MTW ; PC800 Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:22 PM Subject: Re: PC800: New Tires >I had to replace my front tire this week end and tried for a Dunlop K177 which >is what I had on there, but couldn't find one. Had to settle for a K555. Got it >at Donellson Cycles here in St. Louis. $76 for the tire and $40 to mount it. >They handle mail orders. > >Steve DeLorey > >shelley kidby wrote: > >> just gotta.. I paid 229.00 for my set of ML2 from San Diego's House of >> Motorcycles 4-14-99 (they add in Motorcyclist also) >> >> guess ya coulda got em for 228.00 :-) >> >> Jerry Kidby >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> >> Subject: PC800: New Tires >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:35:58 -0400 >> From: "MTW" >> To: "PC800" >> >> Dennis Kirk does it right. >> >> Just got home and found a set of Metzler ML2 Marathons on my back porch. I >> ordered them Thursday afternoon! Both tires totaled out @ $229, signed, >> sealed and delivered! >> How can that be? (you ask). They total $307.98 in their catalog! >> >> Easy, I found an ad in the June issue of "Motorcyclist" (free subscription >> thanks to this list) and call Dennis Kirk and say "I found them CHEAPER". >> They were very friendly and professonal (these qualities don't have to be >> mutually exclusive). They even knew what a PC was! >> >> The operator was very enthusiastic when she found out I had seven weeks of >> vacation, a PC AND new tires ordered!! I didn't tell her that a chunk of >> those 7 weeks was earmarked for a total kitchen renovation. (This is payback >> for the 3 weeks my wife let me take off and ride to Alaska.) >> >> I'll do business with them again. >> >> Mike Whited ' 94 PC >> Columbus Ohio >> >> and now back to the kitchen........... >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:49:16 -0700 Subject: PC800: Won't start-- no life from the spark plugs -> FIXED From: "Chuck Wildman" To: pc800 Mailing list After some reading and a little more ponding over possiblities, discovered that the KILL switch was in the 'half-way' position which equals a dead electrical to the plugs. Dooooh........This one 'burnt me' once before, but since I've been working double shifts recently, there wasn't enough brain cells left to make the logical connection quickly.....bike is back to the flawlessly reliable state again (only the driver is broken). Got about four messages from various list members which 'knew the problem' and pointed right to the solution --- thanks for your help. Chuck --------- >> Pushed the start button the other morning to head off to work and it 'fired >> once or twice' and then was completely unresponsive (no attempt to fire) >> after that. Continued cranking but didn't help and I could smell gas at the >> exhaust end (probably flooded). Let it sit for 4 hours till lunch and made >> another attempt. No sounds or life from the plugs and more gas smell (but >> no leaks at any tubes). >> >> Would presume some sort of ignition problem -- any experiences on this one ? >> (before I start tearing off all the panels). It's a 1996 model and has been >> flawlessly reliable till now. >> >> Chuck > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:31:58 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: jgoula CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: GHOSTWEAR Hi Juan, jgoula wrote: > Interesting to see that there might be a difference in the seat profiles between > year models. Could this be because of the shape the seat takes over the years > (no rude comments, guys!) Might be interesting to find a low mileage '89 seat > and compare. > I think the seat I got from K. R. Evans is from an '89. It was the exact same profile/height/width/color/etc. as my original '94 seat was. The experience I've had is that the foam softens as the miles accumulate and so you sink farther in over time. That was one of the reasons I was looking for a replacement. Unfortunately, the foam seems to detiorate over time even without the miles. K.R.'s seat had only about 6000 miles on it but the foam is softer than mine was new. It is like my old one became after some thousands of miles and I suspect that's from age. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:57:25 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: jgoula CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Seats Hi Juan, jgoula wrote: > Also, if memory serves, the color and the stitching pattern are different on the > '97-'98, so part numbers will likely be different, even if the shapes are the > same. As I recall, the '97 and '98 seat is black (the earlier ones are gray) and the stitches are fake whereas on the earlier models, the stitching is real. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 07:06:14 -0400 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Seats To: lcshepp@directcon.net Cc: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) lcshepp@directcon.net writes: >Hi Juan, > >jgoula wrote: > >> Also, if memory serves, the color and the stitching pattern are >different on the >> '97-'98, so part numbers will likely be different, even if the >shapes are the >> same. > >As I recall, the '97 and '98 seat is black (the earlier ones are >gray) and the >stitches are fake whereas on the earlier models, the stitching is >real. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >132,000 miles There are no "stitches", fake or real, on the '98. Smooth as a baby's bottom! Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Leland C. Sheppard" cc: jgoula , Pacific Coast Owners From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Seats of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:57:25 EDT." <375CA2B5.A16244D6@directcon.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:50:43 -0500 "Leland C. Sheppard" writes: > As I recall, the '97 and '98 seat is black (the earlier ones are gray) and th e > stitches are fake whereas on the earlier models, the stitching is real. My '98 black seat has no stitching other than to connnect the front panel of the passenger seat to form a driver's buttrest. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:04:21 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Jansen" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: To Emile Nossin Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:12:54 +0200 Volgens mijn mailprogramma is ook dit bericht niet direkt naar je email = adres verzonden, derhalve dan maar via deze list (dubbelzinnig niet ?) Emile, =20 Morgen (woensdag) moet ik bij Sony Badhoevedorp mijn gerepareerde cd = speeler ophalen. We kunnen ergens om/nabij Schiphol afspreken voordat je = begint te werken. Als dat lukt moet je maar even aangegeven waar en hoe laat dan zorg ik = dat ik er ben. =20 Die tocht vanaf Nederweert was eerst op 30 mei gepland, het is 150km = vanaf Amsterdam en ik was gegaan maar ik ga de echte zon opzoeken. We = doen dit met de auto, ik neem namelijk mijn duikuitrusting mee en dat is = teveel zelfs voor een PC. De eerstvolgende PC rit ga ik wel doen.=20 =20 Aangezien jij erg veel ervaring hebt op een PC zou ik je willen vragen = of jij misschien op de mijne een kleine proefritje wil maken, wie weet = zie of vindt jij iets dat van belang is en ik zit nog in mijn garantie = periode. Je input lijkt mij zeer waardevol, ik vind um fantaties maar ja = je weet nooit. =20 Ik wacht op je meeltje of anders direkt kontakt op 020-6978613 of = 0622852085. =20 Leeter =20 Ron
 
Aangezien jij erg veel ervaring hebt op een PC zou = ik je=20 willen vragen of jij misschien op de mijne een kleine proefritje wil = maken, wie=20 weet zie of vindt jij iets dat van belang is en ik zit nog in mijn = garantie=20 periode. Je input lijkt mij zeer waardevol, ik vind um fantaties maar ja = je weet=20 nooit.
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:56:29 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Seats To: rthomass@ccmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, annreid@juno.com In a message dated 6/7/99 2:12:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, rthomass@ccmail.com writes: << I don't believe that the '89 to '96 PC800s will take a seat from a '97 or '98. Check with a Honda dealer for the part numbers. >> Hey Group! I bought a seat from someone on this list last year who had got to a Corbin. His bike was I believe a '97 or "98. My bike is a '95. Took my old seat off, put his on. Simple swap nothing different between the two. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Seats Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:21:39 PDT I own a '96; the seat is black and the stiching is fake. I wonder when the transition to black took place? Maybe Honda was pulling stuff out of the parts bin. Has anyone also noticed the dates that are encoded into the plastic parts? My 1996 has tupperware dated from 1993 and 1994. Next time you pull off a plastic part take a look at the back and you will find a year/month manufacturing chart. The last month/year with a mark is the date your part was made. Even though my bike was assembled as a 1996 model year, there appear to be parts that are now 6 years old. >Hi Juan, > >jgoula wrote: > > > Also, if memory serves, the color and the stitching pattern are >different on the > > '97-'98, so part numbers will likely be different, even if the shapes >are the > > same. > >As I recall, the '97 and '98 seat is black (the earlier ones are gray) and >the >stitches are fake whereas on the earlier models, the stitching is real. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >132,000 miles > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id IAA38068 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:24:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:23:56 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 > After some reading and a little more ponding over possiblities, > discovered > that the KILL switch was in the 'half-way' position Yeah - once I was on a ride with 2 Harley owners (and 22 tattoos) when one of them got on my PC to see how it feels; killed the cutoff switch and I was dumb enough not to notice. The revenge came when I realized I couldn't get started (only took 2 or 3 good tries to kill the battery). I had them push start me but it was a rough road and there were no hills, 88 degrees. After about 15 minutes they were working up a pretty good lather, but they weren't about to give up. Then I notice the power cutoff switch was off. I quietly I switched it back on. I didn't mention this (afraid for my life if they found out), but I did mumble something about one more try while I try to 'time the stator to the clutch release" or something equally ridiculous. Of course it started as soon as I engaged the clutch at 1 mph, and ran fine. They were exhausted but impressed with my sophisticated knowledge of the ignition system. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:53:35 -0300 To: PC 800 List From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End My impression of this shaking problem is that if everything is PERFECT - front tire tread, front tire air pressure, front suspension, head bearings, forks, rear tire tread, rear tire air pressure, rear suspension, rear suspension adjustment (for the weight currently on the bike) then the PC will not shake. I've had 2 PCs for 6 years, and certainly there have been a few times when mine didn't shake at any speed. Currently the '96 will not shake at any speed; the '89 will shake at any speed with hands off the handlebars. But before I put new tires on, it would shake below about 20mph. The old tires were right at the end of their life. But given that even wearing the tread improperly by running at the wrong pressure (or wearing it at all) will change the tire such that it will shake, my feeling is that one might as well say, "this bike is not meant to be ridden hands free." One more time. Yes, there are PCs that can be ridden hands-off at certain speeds. But I do not consider a shaking condition to be an out-of-spec condition that is repairable in any reasonable way. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 161; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:56:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:48:17 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: Seats >As I recall, the '97 and '98 seat is black (the earlier ones are gray) and >the >stitches are fake whereas on the earlier models, the stitching is real. What stitches? The 97/98 seat is as smooth as a (fill in the blank). Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC 800 List Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:43:41 -0700 I wouldn't be at all surprized if a lot of this wobbling isn't caused by the front tire going "out of balance" over time. Since with a motorcycle, the tire gets a lot more sidewall wear from leaning, I would expect that this may affect the tire balance more so than if only straight-line driving is done. The wobble is a harmonic vibration between the wheel and the flexibility of the forks, assuming that the head bearings are properly tightened. As the forks ocillate, they cause the wheel to steer the bike out of sync with the fork position, which causes more fork twisting, which causes more wheel steer, etc. etc. Since most who have responded on this thread indicate that this wobble is often cured by replacement of a new front tire, which assumes balancing was done, I believe this re-enforces my theory. Tire pressure would also make an affect as it contributes to the degree of sidewall flex, which may be dampening some of the off balance vibration. What do you think? Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca[SMTP:Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 6:53 AM > To: PC 800 List > Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Wobbling Front End > > My impression of this shaking problem is that if everything is PERFECT - > front tire tread, front tire air pressure, front suspension, head bearings, > forks, rear tire tread, rear tire air pressure, rear suspension, rear > suspension adjustment (for the weight currently on the bike) then the PC > will not shake. > > I've had 2 PCs for 6 years, and certainly there have been a few times when > mine didn't shake at any speed. Currently the '96 will not shake at any > speed; the '89 will shake at any speed with hands off the handlebars. But > before I put new tires on, it would shake below about 20mph. The old tires > were right at the end of their life. > > But given that even wearing the tread improperly by running at the wrong > pressure (or wearing it at all) will change the tire such that it will > shake, my feeling is that one might as well say, "this bike is not meant to > be ridden hands free." > > One more time. Yes, there are PCs that can be ridden hands-off at certain > speeds. But I do not consider a shaking condition to be an out-of-spec > condition that is repairable in any reasonable way. > > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:25:15 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Rich Gross CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start Rich Gross wrote: snip > > I didn't mention this (afraid for my life if they found out), but > I did mumble something about one more try while I try to 'time > the stator to the clutch release" or something equally > ridiculous. Of course it started as soon as I engaged the clutch > at 1 mph, and ran fine. > > They were exhausted but impressed with my sophisticated knowledge > of the ignition system. Ah, ha, ha, ha!! Great story, had me in stitches. I had a time when I was riding with a friend. I came to a stoplight, and the bike died. It would spin and kind of start and kind of run, but wouldn't keep running. It was really hot and I thought I had vapor lock. Struggled to get that 900 lb bike around the corner to place to pull off and it continued not to start. Got off the bike and by then the friend had come back. I told what I thought it was. He walked over and turned the kill switch back to on and of course she started. Boy, what a look he gave me when he walked back to his bike. I guess I hit the switch somehow. Funny how it would kind of start, not just spin, which made me think it was some mechanical problem. Oh, well. Live and not learn; that's my motto. TommyTeal -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 95 ACE 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:36:32 -0400 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Out of Office AutoReply: PC800: Won't start Bergeron, Clifton S OSC (CPF N622) wrote: > > will be out of the office for the week of 7 Jun -13 Jun. If you have > problems with AIG/CADs contact Mr Dave Harris (N624) if you have a problem > with your STU III's contact RM1 Light at Makalapa CMS 474-4844. I got this message and did not send to this person "Bergeron, Clifton S OSC (CPF N622)" Is everyone getting this who posts to PC800 list? If so, we got a problem. TommyTeal -- 93 SE 95 Hannigan 95 ACE 97 Pacific Coast 98 V-Star Classic (Black Cherry over Crimson) GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:46:17 -0400 Subject: Re(2): Out of Office AutoReply: PC800: Won't start To: gwta@voyager.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) gwta@voyager.net writes: >Bergeron, Clifton S OSC (CPF N622) wrote: >> >> will be out of the office for the week of 7 Jun -13 Jun. If you >have >> problems with AIG/CADs contact Mr Dave Harris (N624) if you have >a problem >> with your STU III's contact RM1 Light at Makalapa CMS 474-4844. > >I got this message and did not send to this person > "Bergeron, Clifton S OSC (CPF N622)" > > >Is everyone getting this who posts to PC800 list? If so, we got a >problem. > >TommyTeal This is the auto-reply feature on his email system "responding" to a PC800 List posting. I got it also. I do this with my other email address, but not my PC800 address. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:31:28 -0400 Dear Listers, I am very happy to report that I'll be keeping my PC. I might even be able to afford a new seat! I noticed an ongoing thread about seats - couple of questions. First, does the Corbin Seat for the PC fit a 1998? Their web site says no (http://www.corbin.com/honda/pch.html). I get the feeling, however, that several listers have been able to mount this seat on a 1998. If modifications are necessary, what were they? Second, if I can't get the Corbin to work I might try a Russell Day-Long saddle. Any comments on general quality/comfort? Thanks for all your help. Chris Barrett -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Won't start From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 08 Jun 1999 16:14:03 -0500 Lines: 9 >>>>> "TO" == Thomas Ongstad writes: TO> Is everyone getting this who posts to PC800 list? If so, we got a TO> problem. Autoresponders that reply in any way to mail from mailing lists are bad; if I get a reply to this message, I will remove the offender. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:20:59 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... To: cbarrett@ocsea.org Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) cbarrett@ocsea.org writes: >Dear Listers, > >I am very happy to report that I'll be keeping my PC. I might >even be >able to afford a new seat! I noticed an ongoing thread about >seats - >couple of questions. First, does the Corbin Seat for the PC fit a >1998? >Their web site says no (http://www.corbin.com/honda/pch.html). I >get >the feeling, however, that several listers have been able to mount >this >seat on a 1998. If modifications are necessary, what were they? >Second, if I can't get the Corbin to work I might try a Russell >Day-Long >saddle. Any comments on general quality/comfort? > >Thanks for all your help. > >Chris Barrett I bought a Corbin seat for my 1998 Pacific Coast in July of last year. No modifications are necessary. You will have a problem getting the last of the 4 bolts reinstalled that hold on the seat, but get a heavy friend to sit side saddle over the hole. I've taken mine off and put it back on twice since then with no need for help. I'd suggest you try one on for fit, your butt not the bike, before you buy it though. If we knew where you lived there might be someone near you. Tim Davies- '98 Pacific Coast,"Yankee Smuggler" Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 HRCA #HM100878 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id QAA13088 (8.9.1/50); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:52:07 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:51:30 -0500 Subject: PC800: [OFF] Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Won't start From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 > Autoresponders that reply in any way to mail from mailing lists are > bad; if I get a reply to this message, I will remove the offender. I'm sure he meant well, but someone needs to remind him to either unsubscribe while he is gone, or to filter incoming mail away from his autoreply routine. Meantime, if the list owner can unsubscribe him and then email him a reminder for when he returns... Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:34:02 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Barrett, Chris" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... "Barrett, Chris" wrote: > Second, if I can't get the Corbin to work I might try a Russell Day-Long > saddle. Any comments on general quality/comfort? In addition to this list, I hang out on the Long Distance Riders List and almost without exception, those guys love their Russels. Ugly as sin but who can see it when your butt has is covered. That is when it really counts anyway. I don't think I have heard anyone say that the Russel is not the most comfy seat they have ever sat on. I only wish I had the money. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:58:54 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... To: deere@linknet.net, cbarrett@ocsea.org CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/8/99 4:32:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time, deere@linknet.net writes: << I don't think I have heard anyone say that the Russel is not the most comfy seat they have ever sat on. I only wish I had the money. >> How much money are we talking about here? Could they possibly cost more than a Corbin? Do they sell you the whole seat or do you need to send them your old seat for them to redo? Do they have a phone # on a website? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:28:43 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: cbarrett@ocsea.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > How much money are we talking about here? Could they possibly cost more than > a Corbin? Do they sell you the whole seat or do you need to send them your > old seat for them to redo? Do they have a phone # on a website? They run from about $250 to almost $500. Backrest for front and back are available. The website, I think, has a picture of a PC with the seat. They have seat pans for some bikes but not the PC. Here is the website. http://www.day-long.com/ -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Re(2): Out of Office AutoReply: PC800: Won't start of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:46:17 EDT." Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:55:51 -0500 PC800 Rider writes: > gwta@voyager.net writes: > >Bergeron, Clifton S OSC (CPF N622) wrote: > >> > >> will be out of the office for the week of 7 Jun -13 Jun. If you > >have > >> problems with AIG/CADs contact Mr Dave Harris (N624) if you have > >a problem > >> with your STU III's contact RM1 Light at Makalapa CMS 474-4844. For those of you who don't know, a STU III is an encrypted telephone. Its controlled cryptographic hardware. Not just anyone can buy one. I bet his boss would be upset to know where the above information was sent. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Doug Allis cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Seats of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:21:39 PDT." <19990608132139.4907.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:38:59 -0500 Doug Allis writes: > I own a '96; the seat is black and the stiching is fake. I wonder when the > transition to black took place? Maybe Honda was pulling stuff out of the > parts bin. Has anyone also noticed the dates that are encoded into the > plastic parts? My 1996 has tupperware dated from 1993 and 1994. Shortly after I purchased my '98 I pulled some panels and noticed the date code. Noticed 1991 dates. Would have been lower front and side panels. Honda sure did overestimate the volume of PC's they were going to sell. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:22:40 -0700 From: M Ham To: Ahall77379@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Utopia driver's backrest I am interested in the backrest also. Does Utopia have a web page? If so please let me know. I am also interested in a passenger backrest to make the ride for my wife more comfortable. Any response would be appreciated. Ahall77379@aol.com wrote: > E-mailed these guys last night - received a response this morning! Although > they cannot accommodate my desired ship date, if I cannot find a used > backrest through the list, I will absolutley purchase from such a > conscientious company! > > Alan in Houston 89' PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.06) id A5001CBB0100; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 22:52:32 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 22:55:19 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: fsl@borgconsulting.com CC: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800: Americade Hi Francois, My wife and I are going to Americade. I'm going to look for a motel around exits 9-11 off 87. We'll be looking for TH-FRI nights. We will probably get a day pass for Friday. That's all the info I have at this time. Maybe we'll bump into each other. '96, MA AX3277, matched Gi.Vi E50, '89 windscreen with a rubber spoiler. Roger Prince [Prev][Next] [Chronological] [Thread] [Top] Americade To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Americade From: Francois Saint Laurent Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:26:19 -0400 Hi everyone. The time for Americade is soon approaching. It is being held in Lake George, NY from June 7-12, 1999. You can find out more about the worlds largest touring rally at http://www.tourexpo.com . I have been only once before (98) and I really enjoyed it. I signed up for one of the lunch time boat cruises on the lake, and had the chance to meet some very nice people who had driven in from Nebraska for this event. I have been keeping a list of the email addresses of PC800 owners who have expressed an interest in getting together at Americade. As of the last recount, there were about 10 people who had indicated that they are attending Americade, and would be interested in an informal get together. Several of us are staying at the Days Inn, and there is a restaurant on the premises, where we will be getting together for breakfast most days. If you're interested in adding your name to the list of potential attendees, so that I can keep you informed as to any dates and times that meetings are set up, please reply to me directly. This will be a great opportunity to meet some of your fellow PC800 list members, and finally put a face to the name. (That might not be a *good* thing!) Tim Davies (mailto: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us) is keeping a list for the Honda Homecoming event, so if you are thinking about attending the Homecoming please email him. Take care...and ride safe. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Prev: RE: usa article age.... Next: Re: Help Index(es): Chronological Thread -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ahall77379@aol.com for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:09:30 EDT Subject: PC800: Check out CampNet America Campground, RV Parks, and Camping Directory To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Click here: CampNet America Campground, RV Parks, and Camping Directory Don't know if anyone cares, but this site has a terrific trip router. It makes setting up a travel plan a snap. Alan in Houston 89' PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:22:33 -0400 Subject: PC800: Yet another vendor report After giving up on Competition Accessories, I ordered a Givi topcase directly from Givi USA. They will not take orders over the phone, but they do accept orders via email. You can look their phone up on the Givi website, and then call them and ask them what information they need in the e-mail. I included my name, address, credit card number and expiration date, and the model I wanted (E50R300), along with a request that they confirm the ship date as soon as possible. I sent the mail in the afternoon of Thursday, June 3. Friday morning I got a response from Givi saying they'd ship the box the following Monday (June 7). The box arrived today, only three business days after I sent the e-mail. I haven't been home to see it (I'm out of town). I had my girlfriend go by and put it in the house, so I hope they sent the right color. Wouldn't it be sad and sick if they shipped the wrong one too!? So, I'm officially suggesting that any new Givi customers just order directly from Givi. You're not going to have the stocking issues that Comp. Access. has, and I'd think they'd be less likely to screw the order up too. Plus, it's one less person to handle (and potentially damage) your new Givi. Competition Accessories re-packaged everything when they shipped the rack and the case . . the topcase didn't come in it's original packing. I've got an interested buyer for my mis-shipped Givi from Comp Access (the infamous candy-apple red), and if he decides to buy I'll ship it in whatever packing Givi chose to send my new box. So, Comp Acessories blunder may wind up benefiting another lister, since I can let go of the mis-shipped box for less than what it retails for (since I ordered a cheaper flat-black box, but received a more expensive painted-top box). Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: jhart@mail.lewiston.lib.me.us cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:08:45 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: vendor report >>Sounds great. I have a Candy Red '90 PC. Is yours the one which is >>supposed to be a close match for that color? Also, what do I do about >>the mounting stuff? Order from Comp. Acc.? Or did you order two sets? Yes, the box that was sent to me was the R301 color, which is a candy apple red color . .it's even metallic, which I think the 90 PC is as well. You might want to verify this with other list members who have a '90 and have ordered the Givi, but I'm almost positive it'd be your color. I'm not at home right now, but I could send you a picture of it when I get home. I'm out of town right now and don't have access to my digital camera. You'll need to order the SR-10 rack, but I wouldn't do it through competition accessories. I'd order straight from Givi if I were you . . I ordered my new one from them (MAXIA R300 color), and got it in three business days. Again, I paid 249 for the bright red painted box from Givi. Both Givi USA and Compeition Accessories quoted the same price for the different boxes, so I have to assume that you'd pay $249 if you actually ordered the Candy-Apple color from either Comp. Access. or Givi. I'll gladly send it to you for what I paid ($196--the price of the flat black that I originally ordered--plus however fast you want it shipped) so you'll be getting a good deal, and bailing me out . . . a win-win situation. I'd just as soon stick it to Comp. Access. after they jerked me around. I could put it in the mail on Monday, if you'd like. (I've copied the list at large on this just so someone might verify that the R301 color is in fact the best match for the '90 PC). Respond with your address if you'd like me to ship it to you. I wouldn't worry about waiting on your check or anything--the PC types seem trustworthy enough! Thanks! Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.uscom.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 21:16:56 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Carl Luft" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:14:42 -0400 >I didn't mention this (afraid for my life if they found out), but >I did mumble something about one more try while I try to 'time >the stator to the clutch release" or something equally >ridiculous. Of course it started as soon as I engaged the clutch >at 1 mph, and ran fine. > >They were exhausted but impressed with my sophisticated knowledge >of the ignition system. > >Rich >Madison, WI >1994 PC800: Jetson In other words, your innerositor was out of faze with the master sanacram coupler. Carl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:04:41 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Doug Allis CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Seats Hi Doug, Doug Allis wrote: > I own a '96; the seat is black and the stiching is fake. I wonder when the > transition to black took place? It was with the '96 model; the '94 has a gray seat as does the '95. It must have been a '96 that I saw with the fake stitching. It's odd that they would have changed the seat cover again for '97 and/or '98 ("no stitches fake or real") but it appears thats what they did. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:16:04 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... Hi Russ, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > How much money are we talking about here? Could they possibly cost more than > a Corbin? As I understood it, the Corbin is about $350-$400 for a seat for the PC; is that not true? The stock seat from Honda is $540 for both pieces... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John & Rhoda Strode" To: "PCListServ" Subject: PC800: Another Vendor Report Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:41:18 -0700 We have been waiting on tires sense May 12 from Dennis Kirk. Seems they go everywhere but here. They even made it back to Dennis. UPS said they should be here Thursday. Will hold my breath until noon. Rear tires worn out on both PC's. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:02:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Keeping PC - Getting new seat... Leland C. Sheppard writes: > As I understood it, the Corbin is about $350-$400 for a seat for > the PC; is that not true? The stock seat from Honda is $540 for > both pieces... Sheesh! No wonder I was able to sell my stock seat so quickly for $100. Corbin's web site says the price is $359 in vinyl; $399 in leather. Add another $189 for a back rest; $199 in leather. See: http://www.corbin.com/honda/pch.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gilb, Mark A" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Looking at a new seat Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:38:46 -0500 Good Morning Fellow Coasters, I also am considering the purchase of a Russell DayLong seat for my PC. According to their website (http://www.day-long.com), they need Polaroid photos of the rider (and passenger if a custom passenger section is desired) seated on the bike and also the seat pans from an existing seat to use to build the new custom seat. Since I can't figure out how to ride the PC with no seat while I tear mine existing seat apart & mail away the pans, I was wondering if anyone on the list has a junk seat (rider & passenger) that they would like to get rid of CHEAP? By using Russell's website, I figured a new seat set, black vinyl with matching rider backrest and a re-cover of my passenger backrest pad would run around $550 w/o shipping & handling. I have tried the Corbin seat and I apparently just don't weigh enough to properly compress it as it felt hard as a rock and was really uncomfortable after about 20 minutes. Has anyone on the list tried the Russell? I have heard very good things about them and there must be at least 1 PC somewhere in the world with one on it because there is a picture of it on their website (a white 89). I would be interested in opinions if anyone has one (like you all needed prompting :-) ). Also, has anyone had any experience with the Autocom line of electronics? I got their brochure last week and while their stuff looks good, it is REALLY SPENDY. I started pricing items for a "wish list" system that would incorporate intercom & CB into my existing Sony stereo setup and soon had over $800 in parts picked out!!!!!! Hand signals and shouting are looking pretty good right now. Hope to see some of you at the Homecoming. Ride Safe & Smart Mark Gilb St. Louis, Mo. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:26:03 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Gilb, Mark A" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Looking at a new seat "Gilb, Mark A" wrote: > Since I can't figure out how to ride the PC with > no seat while I tear mine existing seat apart & mail away the pans, I was > wondering if anyone on the list has a junk seat (rider & passenger) that > they would like to get rid of CHEAP? They are probably 12 weeks behind on making the seats and what they do is tell you when your seat is scheduled to be made and you send the seat the week before. You will only be without your seat for a couple of weeks. OK maybe three. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:40:26 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Gilb, Mark A" , Subject: Re: PC800: Looking at a new seat Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:40:04 -0700 Mark, I have the Autocom and have a CB interfaced while using a Walkman type AM/FM/Cassette. You are right the stuff is a bit pricey, but I have also used J&M and Cyclecomm before. Without reservation, I will say that Autocom is the best by far. There is very little comparison with the other stuff. When you buy, make sure you buy the PRO model. I have the Eurocom and I am satisfied, but I would now buy the PRO if I had it to do over again. You don't need to buy their CB Development Kit if you use a Handheld type of CB. I purchased the IL-9 connector ($59.99) and then bought a Cobra HH45WXST Handheld CB and it works great. I would suggest you find a external antenna though. The one amazing thing is that you can actually hear the Autocom Intercom at 90+ mph. I could never hear the J&M at that speed, and it was mounted on the same bike I ride now (ST1100). If you have any questions, feel free to contact me off-list by E-mail Jim Alexander Concord, CA '98 ST1100 STar Chaser HSTA #2307SU AMA #415932 STOC #009 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gilb, Mark A >Good Morning Fellow Coasters, > [snip] > > Also, has anyone had any experience with the Autocom line of electronics? >I got their brochure last week and while their stuff looks good, it is >REALLY SPENDY. I started pricing items for a "wish list" system that would >incorporate intercom & CB into my existing Sony stereo setup and soon had >over $800 in parts picked out!!!!!! Hand signals and shouting are looking >pretty good right now. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:54:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Oils At the risk of igniting a perpetual flame, I stumbled on a longish article that appeared in Road Rider (now Motorcycle Consumer News) in August 1992. It's available on the web: Snake Oil! Is That Additive Really a Negative? URL: http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html Good stuff, confirming what was bruited about on this list in May: NEVER use Teflon-based additives; zinc levels in automobile oils have been reduced to prevent fouling of catalytic converters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Cleaning the carb? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:08:02 -0700 It is barely noticeable, but my PC no longer purrs ;-). It's not that it runs rough at idle but I suspect it could run better. I've got 30,000 miles on it and suspect the carb may need some cleaning. I've got new plugs, new oil, the carbs have been sync'd twice (they were dead nuts both times). I've been thinking of adding some kind of carb cleaner additive type stuff to the gas for a couple of tanks (in the right proportion of course). What do you think? Harrison Spain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:11:11 -0300 To: "Spain, Harrison" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Cleaning the carb? >I've been thinking of adding some kind of carb cleaner additive type stuff >to the gas for a couple of tanks (in the right proportion of course). What >do you think? I don't believe in 'em, but you won't hurt your bike for sure so if you want to throw a few extra dollars into the tank, why not. When my PC starts idling rough I look at the spark plugs (there are FOUR as I embarassingly found out at the parts counter) and then carb sync. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Scalisi Subject: PC800: Americade To: PC800 List Took a day off from work yesterday and rode up to Americade. From Torrington, CT to Lake George is about 145 miles. I racked up 310 miles yesterday on the round trip. Wish I could have stayed longer and hooked up with some of the other listers that were attending. Saw quite a few PC's there. I don't think there was anytime I would look around at an area and not be able to pick out one or more PC's other than my own. I think I saw more PC800s yesterday than ST1100s. I was up there for about 5.5 hours. Left Torrington about 7:30am and got there about 9:50am. Drove over to the Holiday Inn to register. What a zoo. Wasted about an hour there. Then I went over to the Tour Expo. Tons of vendors. Some many toys, so little money. I did manage to pick up new spark plugs (Honda OEM) for US$1.59 each, Honda OEM oil filter for US$5.99 and a can of the Honda spray wax cleaner for US$3.89. I also picked up that new metal polish called Never Dull. It comes in a can and it's balled up wadding that's treated with chemicals. You pull off a small piece and polish any kind of metal. It was US$4.99 for the can. I figured I'd give it a try on the PC's rims. I think I read about it in MCN and they liked it. Well I tried it today and it works great. I did my front rim. It's easier than other metal polishes because you don't have to find an application rag and put some on the rag etc., etc. You just pull a piece off and start rubbing. Then you just use a clean cloth to polish it up. Anyway, after the vendor area, I took a ride to the top of Prospect Mountain. Go to the top about 2pm. The drill teams were supposed to be from 10am to 3pm but they had already finished. So I looked around took some pictures. I parked right next to a 97 PC800 and there was another 89 parked across the lot. When I was getting ready to leave the owners of the 97 came over. Nice couple from NY. Chatted with them for a few minutes and then down the mountain and over to Roaring Brook Ranch. Demo rides were from 1pm to 4pm. I got there about 2:25pm and they were all booked up for the day. So I looked around at all the different brand bikes, had a bite to eat and headed out about 3:25pm back to Torrington, CT. Got home about 6:10pm. Not a bad day. Much better than being at work. Get up there if you can. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chuck Chiodini To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:21:08 PDT Motorcycle Safety Foundation Lesson of the day: Use FINEC starting procedures and you'll never have this problem again. If you get in this habit with starting every bike, every time, it'll cut down on your "embarrassing moments" and add to your safety/enjoyment of the RIDE! F = Fuel switch ON (Already done for us with the PC) I = Ignition switch ON N = Place bike in NEUTRAL (rock back and forth to be sure, never trust the green light) E = Engine cutoff switch to ON C = Apply CHOKE, pull in CLUTCH, CRANK it! Chuck Chiodini (MSF instructor) 89 "Scooter" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Chuck Chiodini cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:24:39 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start I always used the engine cutoff switch to shut the bike down. That way I don't have to take my hand off the front brake before shutting off the engine. This allows me to shut the engine off, then let out the clutch, with both feet on the ground, all before letting go of the handlebars. I think it's a safer procedure. Plus, I never forget that the switch is off, because it's a part of my normal startup routine. The only drawback is that I'm afraid I'll aggravate what already appears to be a weak-link on the PCs: the hi/lo and engine kill toggles. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:03:52 -0700 (PDT) To: spain@ugsolutions.com (Spain, Harrison) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: carb? Change GAS --WebTV-Mail-1158214171-1152 am way from my Honda manuals.. The wife's Ply Lazer 70000 miles just passed DEQ for tag renewal, also had the timing belt replaced along with all suggested service recently (60k). Has been running ROUGH. Had dealership check the computer: found no error codes READ USER MANUAL found CAUTION DONT use Methanol added gasolines Changed gas stations (put a Tiger in the tank) Car now runs - PURRS in fact Couldn't be that simple with Honda, could it? Jerry --WebTV-Mail-1158214171-1152 postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:11:21 -0700 mailsorter-102-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id IAA07776; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:11:19 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAC03619; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:11:15 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Cleaning the carb? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:08:02 -0700 It is barely noticeable, but my PC no longer purrs ;-). It's not that it runs rough at idle but I suspect it could run better. I've got 30,000 miles on it and suspect the carb may need some cleaning. I've got new plugs, new oil, the carbs have been sync'd twice (they were dead nuts both times). I've been thinking of adding some kind of carb cleaner additive type stuff to the gas for a couple of tanks (in the right proportion of course). What do you think? Harrison Spain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1158214171-1152-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:32:25 -0400 Subject: PC800: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox I at first questioned why I needed the PC800 Glovebox, but now I know why. For my trip to the Honda Homecoming, I'll put in: 1) Earplugs (when I'm parked) 2) sunglasses(when I'm on the road) 3) kick stand cookie (when I'm parked) 4) garage-door opener (had it in the left dash pocket, but I was afraid I'd break the lid on it with repeated use . . . it's a little flimsy) 5) gloves (when parked) 6) Route outline (to call the window a map-window is a bit generous, but I can see typing out the planned route and then putting it in the map window) Any other must haves? Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: ron grantsvisit . i am aving lunchwithron grant tommorrow our fellow aussie. will update you after lunchon his latest happenings joel kasof cupertino calif 99 aspencade(black beauty) 98 helix (dollar saver) 98 pc (wong wing) 92 bmw k-1 (blue rocket) gwrra 121491 . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Unsolicited Testimonial In May Chuck Chiodini posted a note saying that said in part: "I am toying with the idea of going into motorcycle plastic repair and re-finishing as my retirement "job" but have been hesitant due to market demand. So let me put this out to the list: Would you be willing to send your busted/bruised plastic parts via FedEx or mail to have them fixed at lower cost than new?" In March I bought a used 1994 PC, fully aware that the 4 crash covers had been repainted -- and not very well, since the color was a different shade of gray, and the clear top coat was peeling off. I took Chuck up on his offer and sent him my crash covers about 2 weeks ago. He stripped them (discovering in the process that they had been twice repainted), fixed a few scratches and cracks, repainted them with appropriate polyurethane paint. My repainted crash covers arrived today, and the quality of the work is excellent. The color match is nearly perfect. Matching metallic paints is very difficult, and paints change color subtly over time with exposure to sunlight. Now my only challenge is to avoid tipping the beast and scratching my pretty, like-new crash covers. During the restoration, Chuck kept me posted with his discoveries, and answered some questions I had about repairing a broken mounting tab. To be honest, he was slightly obsessive about the process -- a personality trait highly to be recommended for this sort of work. Highly recommended. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Betty Lise Anderson cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:19:16 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox Good point about keeping the cell phone in the glovebox for emergencies. Imagine you are in a ditch, two broken legs, with your PC upside down beside you . . I wouldn't want to try to get to my phone if it were in the trunk, but the Glovebox would be infinitely more accessible. So, the glovebox could, inadvertently, be a lifesaver! I guess I could put my wallet in there for comfort's sake. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:23:37 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > > I at first questioned why I needed the PC800 Glovebox, but now I know why. > Any other must haves? How about: Cell phone for emergencies Ibuoprofen (sp?) (or your preferred painkiller) Some gum A power bar or some other snack Tire pressure gauge Small camera the possibilities are endless :) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What is the question that Alaskans most frequently ask about Global Warming? "When?" ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:48:10 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox If you guys keep this up, I'll have to buy one too... All the previously mentioned items are good. Here's a few others: Mints (Altoids brand, the STRONG ones that still come in a tin) Change for parking meters/toll booths/pop machines Chapstick In the trunk, I carry sunscreen (for my nose) in a plastic 35mm film canister, but that could go in there too! Over the weekend, I came up with a good solution for parking permit stickers, stickers proclaiming a favorite race car driver, etc. I did not want to stick the parking permit ANYWHERE on my PC, so I went looking= around. =20 What I came up with was a new, unused "Buick" mudflap (I don't drive a Buick anymore). It was the *perfect* width of my license plate frame, and it is also somewhat flexible. I cut the curved (for car fenders) top off and saved the lower 4" or so. Drilled two holes towards the top of the flap to match the lower two (unused) holes in the license plate, and attached the flap to the back of the license plate and frame using hardware that matched what the license plate was attached to the PC with. Of course, I put the side that said "Buick" to the inside. If I ever take it off again, I will spray over that with black undercoating. Perfect place for stickers (were I have to park for work, they give you a new one every 3 months!), and it also looks (and also acts like) a mudflap that you intended to be there. Total cost was next to nothing. Time involved was about 15 minutes. (and it is one of those rare times where removing tupperware is not necessary!) Rich... At 01:23 PM 6/9/99 -0800, jgoula wrote: >dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: >>=20 >> I at first questioned why I needed the PC800 Glovebox, but now I know= why. >> Any other must haves? > >How about: > >Cell phone for emergencies >Ibuoprofen (sp?) (or your preferred painkiller) >Some gum >A power bar or some other snack >Tire pressure gauge >Small camera > >the possibilities are endless :) > >--=20 >Juan Antonio Goula >Fairbanks, Alaska >Lat.: 64.85=B0N, Long.: 147.72=B0W >What is the question that Alaskans most=20 >frequently ask about Global Warming? > "When?" >------------------------------------------------- >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks=09 >(907)474-5520 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Re: Speaking of seats, Mine Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:50:48 -0400 I'm usually lurking arond the PC800 list since I have one. My seat was recovered by Sargeants of Jacksonville FL only an hr from my house. They put their griptex (small waffle type pattern) on it with some of their closed cell foam inside which really firmed up the seat. Nice work but after just over an hour in the heat my "can" really gets into some "monkey butt" trauma. I usually ride with jeans with no undies but padded bicyble shorts underneath. So, I am riding the near 700 miles up to the HSTA STAR in Marietta OH and would like some tips to keep the wellts down for the duration. It could be the griptex pattern, it could be the weltbead outlining the seat, it could be the levis seams. With a name like Ashurst it may run in the genes...oh that's bad Randy Ashurst, south GA PC800 VX800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:32:20 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Speaking of seats, Mine Randy Ashurst wrote: > >... Nice work but > after just over an hour in the heat my "can" really gets into some "monkey > butt" trauma. I usually ride with jeans with no undies but padded bicyble > shorts underneath. Aha, the dreaded "monkey-butt" syndrome. Ok, here's my take from what I learned on the 10k mile trip to WV and conversations with other listers: -Use powder. Recently somene in the HSTA list mentioned that Goldbond Medicated was the best thing to come along since rubber tires. -Bicycle shorts work ok on a bicycle, not so great on a motorcycle. Try doing with out and see if you notice any difference. Mine rode in the trunk for about 70% of the time. -The debate between boxers vs. briefs, vs. thongs still rages on (though no one cares to admit it, and who can blame them :) -Like (I believe) Daniel MacKay said, if you don't want a sore butt, get it in shape. -Two Advil at the start and then one advil at every gas stop helps keeping the pain in the back ground (I learned this trick from Cory). -Wear pants with no seams (cotton string waist types work well). This, of course, is based on you wearing an outer protective layer. -Take frequent breaks, and walk for about five minutes at each break. This helps restore the circulation. Other listers will chime in with good advice. > With a name like Ashurst it may run in the genes...oh that's bad Ouch, you are right that IS bad... :-P -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What is the question that Alaskans most frequently ask about Global Warming? "When?" ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 19:11:05 -0400 From: Bill McKenna http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk To: bmckenna@mint.net Subject: PC800: RFK SUCCESS in ATLANTA!!!! FYI Atlanta, GA - June 6, 1999 - Ride for Kids® At 5:30 A.M. the gear whine of VFR’s, K100’s and ST 1100’s filled the still morning air on the northside of Atlanta as the first of the Ride for Kids® (RFK) volunteers rolled into the giant North Point Mall parking lot. The moon shown brightly on the motorcyclists as they quickly began setting up a couple thousand feet of tents for the registration, food, etc. They were followed by a second wave of registration volunteers on a multitude of Gold Wings with radios broadcasting everything from rock and roll to salsa. Before the light of a sunny new Georgia day arrived, over one hundred fifty volunteers had taken up their positions at registration under the direction of Task Force leaders Jim and Nona Unversaw of GWRRA of Georgia, parking-safety workers shepherded by Tommy Smith of GWRRA and the tent erectors and donut tasting crew guided by Mike Knowles of the BMW Club of Georgia. In the realm of what kind of bikes showed up, if it had two wheels (some had three), and an engine, then an example of that marque and model came rolling into the parking lot with at least one grinning motorcyclist astride it and a pocketful of donations with him, her or them. This assemblage reminded onlookers of the ultimate candy store of motorcycles with a few million dollars of machines sitting in long neat rows awaiting the starter's gun. At the appointed hour the WSB-TV news chopper and the Fulton County Sheriff’s chopper pounded the ground in their lift-off while one hundred forty vehicles from the Fulton County Sheriff’s Reserve rolled into action with sirens howling and blue lights ablaze leading the cordon of over 2,000 smiling motorcyclists northward onto the scenic twisting roads of the North Georgia mountains. Media in attendance included live broadcasts by Jocelyn Dorsey of Atlanta ABC affiliate WSB-TV and ESPN’s Moto-World. All along the sixty-mile route townspeople were setting up lawn chairs to watch the magnificent machines pass through their towns and church members emerged onto the front steps of their houses of worship to wave at the Good Samaritan riders headed for the warm reception of the Bavarian-style mountain hamlet of Helen, GA. Once into our destination of Helen a scene reminiscent of Hannibal coming over the Alps was reenacted as throngs of vacationers lined the streets of this tiny mountain village and waved greetings to the triumphant riders (come to think of it there were a few Cagiva Elefants in the group). The riders parked their bikes alongside the headwaters of the Chattahoochee River and entered the giant circus tent to listen to the presentation of the pediatric Neuro-oncologist, the loving thanks from a grateful mom, Top Fund Raisers and Top Chapter representatives related how they had raised a colossal amount of donations for the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation and childhood brain tumor research. The brain tumor patient children then climbed up on the stage amidst a standing ovation from the riders and stole the show with their giggling antics. Awards were presented to Top Fund Raiser’s Peter Bassett who raised $10,000 and Tommy Smith with $9,040 turned in, Top Chapter was GWRRA GA-S with $22,825 in donations, Top Motorcycle Shop was Gary’s Hobbie Shop accounting for a magnificent $52,067 and Cycle World of Athens was the Top Dealer with $7,105. If excitement was what the riders were seeking, Joyce Shelton of Statham, GA gave it to the crowd in spades as she was announced the winner of the new Honda motorcycle she won courtesy of American Honda. Most of the crowd did not know someone could yell that loud! If Joyce’s enthusiasm wasn’t enough, the tent nearly came tumbling down as the poster children held up the RFK giant check which showed that on this day these caring motorcyclists had raised over a quarter of a million dollars ($255,000) to find the cause and cure of childhood brain tumors. To say that it took a long time for the celebrating to die down is an understatement as this new record in fund raising was the work of many a dedicated motorcyclist and this victory was too sweet to let slow down. It was another great day for motorcycling and it was a high water mark in the realm of continued research to more quickly find an answer to the most deadly of all the childhood cancers, brain tumors. The next Ride for Kids® event is in Utica, NY on Sunday June 13, 1999. For more information on the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation and the Ride for Kids® call 828-665-6891. Mike Traynor, Motorcyclist President, PBTFUS -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted by: Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA Visit the New England Ride for Kids(R)Page @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:10:18 EDT Subject: PC800: Saddles To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The problem with the stock PC Saddle is that the rider's weight is supported over too small of an area. The Corbin Saddle, although a much firmer, spreads the weight over a larger area. I think the same principle is used by All Day Saddles. Bernie 94 PC 53K Overland Park, KS Belief Distorts Reality -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:44:04 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Information requested Hello folks. It looks like the rubber bushings for the rear shocks on my PC800 just don't cut the mustard. Does anyone have any leads for suppliers of polyurethane bushings? Thanks for the info. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What is the question that Alaskans most frequently ask about Global Warming? "When?" ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Horny Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:10:05 +0200 Coaster colleagues, I have a question. I think my PC makes a strange sound. When accelerating, decelereting or when climbing or descending the exhaust makes a whistling sound. It actually sounds like I'm being chased by a horny cricket. It resembles the sound the Jetson's spacecraft makes. I always thought it was standard, but since hearing Arjan's, Arvid's, Toril's and Ron's PC, I believe something might be wrong inside the exhaust. Their PC sounds like a pulsing V2, with a drum roll, mine like a whisteling horny cricket. At a steady RPM it is real quiet. Now Arjan tells me he heard another PC with the same whistle. I'm puzzled. When holding my hand (with glove) partially over the exhaust, the sounds seems to be gone when blipping the throttle. Nothing seems to be loose. I allready thightened the exhaust chrome cover, when holding my boot or glove against the cover, the ringing / whisteling is still there, so it's not the cover. I think it's just a coincidental combination of exhaust mouth opening and exhaust airflow frequency making a resonating whisteling sound through the opening, I'm just not sure. Ideas anyone ? Other coasters with horny crickets ? ___ |_ mile |\ |ossin |__urope | \|etherlands, Santpoort --------------------------------------------------- *Site: http://fly.to/emile *Bike: '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" *Webphone: +31 (023) 5392323 ( http://www.mediaring.com ) *Fax: (707) 982-2712 (USA number) ( http://www.efax.com ) *ICQ: 17992318 ( http://www.icq.com ) *Email: Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Horny Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:30:22 -0700 Emile, Did you try putting a finger over the water drain hole, some of the whistling may be comming from there. The hole will be on the bottom of the exaust pipe, usually somewhere at the lowest point in the exaust system. My '86 Nighthawk 450 had one in each exaust pipe, just where the mufflers started as the megaphone shaped mufflers angled upwards. Some times they would make a slight whistling sound as water vapor came out of them during the morning warmup. I would expect that the PC has them also, probably at the crossover under the transmission area. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:10 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: Horny > > Coaster colleagues, I have a question. > I think my PC makes a strange sound. When > accelerating, decelereting or when climbing > or descending the exhaust makes a whistling > sound. It actually sounds like I'm being chased > by a horny cricket. It resembles the sound the > Jetson's spacecraft makes. I always thought it > was standard, but since hearing Arjan's, Arvid's, > Toril's and Ron's PC, I believe something might > be wrong inside the exhaust. > Their PC sounds like a pulsing V2, with a drum roll, > mine like a whisteling horny cricket. At a steady > RPM it is real quiet. Now Arjan tells me he heard > another PC with the same whistle. > > I'm puzzled. When holding my hand (with glove) > partially over the exhaust, the sounds seems to > be gone when blipping the throttle. Nothing seems > to be loose. I allready thightened the exhaust chrome > cover, when holding my boot or glove against the > cover, the ringing / whisteling is still there, so it's not > the cover. > > I think it's just a coincidental combination of exhaust > mouth opening and exhaust airflow frequency making a > resonating whisteling sound through the opening, I'm just > not sure. Ideas anyone ? Other coasters with horny crickets ? > ___ > |_ mile |\ |ossin > |__urope | \|etherlands, Santpoort > --------------------------------------------------- > *Site: http://fly.to/emile > *Bike: '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" > *Webphone: +31 (023) 5392323 > ( http://www.mediaring.com ) > *Fax: (707) 982-2712 (USA number) > ( http://www.efax.com ) > *ICQ: 17992318 > ( http://www.icq.com ) > *Email: Emile@Cybercomm.nl > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:39:55 -0300 To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Horny Heheheh yup, I have heard it called "exhaust chirp". If you do a search for the word "chirp" in the PC database, http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ you'll see a couple. Or you could show all "Exhaust" records and look through those. I think it does mean there's a baffle inside the muffler loose or worn ... my muffler is doing the same thing. Aircooled VW Beetle mufflers make the same noise when they're in perfect shape. It does make the bike sound less butch, but not, to me, worth the price of a muffler. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Horny Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:45:02 +0200 I see Roger Prince has replaced his muffler twice in 4 years due to chirping. Apparently solved it. So what does an exhaust cost (approximately) ? Is it only the damper, or is it the entire pipe system ? Emile http://fly.to/emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay To: Emile Nossin ; PC800 Sent: donderdag 10 juni 1999 2:39 Subject: Re: PC800: Horny Heheheh yup, I have heard it called "exhaust chirp". If you do a search for the word "chirp" in the PC database, http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ you'll see a couple. Or you could show all "Exhaust" records and look through those. I think it does mean there's a baffle inside the muffler loose or worn ... my muffler is doing the same thing. Aircooled VW Beetle mufflers make the same noise when they're in perfect shape. It does make the bike sound less butch, but not, to me, worth the price of a muffler. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Selden Deemer cc: PC 800 List From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Unsolicited Testimonial of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:21:16 EDT." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:19:56 -0500 Selden Deemer writes: > During the restoration, Chuck kept me posted with his discoveries, > and answered some questions I had about repairing a broken mounting > tab. To be honest, he was slightly obsessive about the process -- > a personality trait highly to be recommended for this sort of work. > > Highly recommended. Now if only he'd care to get into the custom seat business... :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Spain, Harrison" cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Cleaning the carb? of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:08:02 PDT." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:14:44 -0500 "Spain, Harrison" writes: > It is barely noticeable, but my PC no longer purrs ;-). It's not that it > runs rough at idle but I suspect it could run better. I've got 30,000 miles > on it and suspect the carb may need some cleaning. I've got new plugs, new > oil, the carbs have been sync'd twice (they were dead nuts both times). > > I've been thinking of adding some kind of carb cleaner additive type stuff > to the gas for a couple of tanks (in the right proportion of course). What > do you think? Faced with the prospect of disassembling and cleaning 6 carbs on his CBX (1979, 12k miles), a friend tried a carb cleaner gasoline additive. He was terribly happy with the results after a tank or two. This is someone who is so picky about his CBX that he won't ride on any chance of rain. And even then frets about "wearing it out", claiming, "Do you know what a valve job would cost for this thing?" I would suspect the "injector cleaners" that are available everywhere are not quite the right thing for cleaning the jets on your carbs. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) cc: "Spain, Harrison" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Cleaning the carb? of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:11:11 -0300." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:16:43 -0500 Daniel MacKay writes: > When my PC starts idling rough I look at the spark plugs (there are FOUR as > I embarassingly found out at the parts counter) and then carb sync. There have been several reports that changing only one spark plug per cylinder does very little good if the engine was running poorly before. Both spark plugs have to be changed for the cylinder to run smoothly. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:18:35 +0200 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ron Jansen" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: vacation Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:27:13 +0200 unsubscribe pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:05:54 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: shelley kidby CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: carb? Change GAS Hi Jerry, shelley kidby wrote: > DONT use Methanol added gasolines > Couldn't be that simple with Honda, could it? I think Shell uses methanol in their gas (about 15% as I recall) and that is what I mostly run in my PC, Civic, motorhome and truck. No problems except poorer mileage since they also put that damn MTBE in California gas. FWIW... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:30:36 -0400 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: John & Rhoda Strode CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Another Vendor Report Hi John and Rhoda, John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > We have been waiting on tires sense May 12 from Dennis Kirk. Seems they go > everywhere but here. They even made it back to Dennis. UPS said they > should be here Thursday. Will hold my breath until noon. Rear tires worn > out on both PC's. Incredible. I bought my first 3 or 4 sets of tires for my PC from Dennis Kirk and never had a problem. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:48:28 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! All, I have to let you all know about a bad experience I had this evening. I took my girlfriend to a local biker hang out on the outskirts of San Antonio, called Hills & Dales. Bikers (or motorcycle riders) gather there nearly every night, but in quite large numbers on Wednesday, everyting from old BWM's, sport bikes to one Boss Hoss were there, but mostly HD's (I took my Shadow). I had met my mother, step-dad, and uncle there, looked around at the bikes, had a few beers (I drank soda) then decided to leave. I was walking ahead with my uncle pointing out various bikes, while my girlfriend and mother walked behind us a bit. Well, on this walk out through the parking lot, some HD rider decided to grab my girlfriends "bottom," which surprised her quite a bit!! She told me AFTER we had left because she didn't want me to do anything about it, good thing too as I was carrying my N70E by the chin guard, and would have loved to have ruined it over his thick skull. This was the FIRST time I have taken her to any motorcycle function of any sort, and I doubt I will ever again, as I don't feel that any woman needs to put up with such behavior, especially my girlfriend (did I mention she is 28 yr old 1st grade teacher??). I have never really had a reason to dislike HD riders, but now I have a good one! I think I need to find a group of Honda PC / Goldwing riders to ride with, as I expect this sort of thing would not happen at a Honda Homecoming! I do apologize for taking bandwidth, I just wanted to express my anger in a "productive way." Thanks........ JPatton 89 PC800 94 Shadow VT1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:41:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Unsolicited Testimonial To: libssd@emory.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/9/99 5:21:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, libssd@emory.edu writes: << To be honest, he was slightly obsessive about the process -- a personality trait highly to be recommended for this sort of work. Highly recommended. >> Although I haven't has Chuck do any plastic work for me, when I was having trouble with the starter on my 89 PC he volunteered to drive 50 miles to help me troubleshoot the problem. He ended up staying overnight and "wrenching" for the fun of it. Quality guy....Quality work!!! Rob Cary NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MTW" To: "Randy Ashurst" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Speaking of seats, Mine Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:17:03 -0400 I used to sit on a piece of sheepskin. Not a whole pelt, but something that covered my butt. I didn't attach it, just sat on it to hold it in place (remember it's there if you stand to stretch your legs!) I didn't use it all the time either, just when things started to get sore. Then I would usally alternate at fillups. I haven't needed to use one on the PC. Mike Whited ' 94 PC Columbus Ohio ps: If you cut the skin right you could tuck part of it under the rear seat to help it stay in place. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Randy Ashurst To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:49 PM Subject: PC800: Re: Speaking of seats, Mine >I am riding the near 700 miles up to the HSTA STAR >in Marietta OH and would like some tips to keep the wellts down for the >duration. > > >Randy Ashurst, south GA PC800 VX800 > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:05:46 -0700 From: Bob Ronecker To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! Jerks like that can be found lots of places and who knows he may have ridden in on something other than a Harley. Of course he wasn't civilized enough to ride a PC ;) Bob Ronecker PC PodRacer St Louis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:01:55 -0400 Wow!! Harley guys actually wave!! I thought they were too busy trying to hold their shoddy, ill-equipped POS-bikes together. C. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:48 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! All, I have to let you all know about a bad experience I had this evening. I took my girlfriend to a local biker hang out on the outskirts of San Antonio, called Hills & Dales. Bikers (or motorcycle riders) gather there nearly every night, but in quite large numbers on Wednesday, everyting from old BWM's, sport bikes to one Boss Hoss were there, but mostly HD's (I took my Shadow). I had met my mother, step-dad, and uncle there, looked around at the bikes, had a few beers (I drank soda) then decided to leave. I was walking ahead with my uncle pointing out various bikes, while my girlfriend and mother walked behind us a bit. Well, on this walk out through the parking lot, some HD rider decided to grab my girlfriends "bottom," which surprised her quite a bit!! She told me AFTER we had left because she didn't want me to do anything about it, good thing too as I was carrying my N70E by the chin guard, and would have loved to have ruined it over his thick skull. This was the FIRST time I have taken her to any motorcycle function of any sort, and I doubt I will ever again, as I don't feel that any woman needs to put up with such behavior, especially my girlfriend (did I mention she is 28 yr old 1st grade teacher??). I have never really had a reason to dislike HD riders, but now I have a good one! I think I need to find a group of Honda PC / Goldwing riders to ride with, as I expect this sort of thing would not happen at a Honda Homecoming! I do apologize for taking bandwidth, I just wanted to express my anger in a "productive way." Thanks........ JPatton 89 PC800 94 Shadow VT1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:18:40 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: Parking stickers (was: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox) R. Fenwick was mentioning: >Over the weekend, I came up with a good solution for parking permit >stickers, stickers proclaiming a favorite race car driver, etc. I did not >want to stick the parking permit ANYWHERE on my PC, so I went looking >around. This is a problem at my work, too, where the motorcycle sticker is supposed to be put on your right front fork. I put it on the rotor cover, shuddering with horror the whole time. But one guy I know has several motorcycles, and he didn't want to have to buy a sticker for each one. We have hang tags for our cars that we can take from car to car, after all. So, he put the MC sticker on a card and laminated it, and he hangs it from somewhere when he's parked so that it hangs near his right front fork. I don't know if he's gotten any tickets, but at least he didn't mess up his bikes. Of course, now that I think about, I wonder if the card ever gets stolen.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:26:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Selden Deemer To: PC 800 List Subject: PC800: Re: CampNet Ahall77379@aol.com writes: > Don't know if anyone cares, but this site has a terrific trip router. > It makes setting up a travel plan a snap. I tried using the CyberRouter, and could never get it to download (NT 4.0, Navigator 4.51, with Java and JavaScript enabled). My favorite web-based route planner is AutoPilot: http://www.freetrip.com/index.html You get options between prefer/avoid freway, scenic, national parks, etc., as well as to list hotels and restaurants along the way. The motel listings generally have links to their reservations systems, plus area maps with directions to the motel. Perhaps the nicest feature is that you can plan a trip in small jumps, for example, corresponding to gas stops, and it is smart enough to continue from each stop, listing cumulative mileage and driving time. Like most of these resources, AutoPilot isn't good at finding really out of the way, twisty routes, especially when more major highways are available as alternatives. AutoPilot also has an option to email each of its routes, which beats trying to save the HTML as text. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Selden Deemer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:42:40 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: maint/repair Database HUNGRY for data!! Hello all!! As you know, we have a database of Pacific Coast repairs and maintenance on line at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ I hope the database is be handy for research into PC failure modes and people's preferred maintenance items and schedules, tire and oil brands &c. I have gotten quite a few submissions of maintenance logs -- 65 bikes -- but NOWHERE NEAR everyone on the list. The more info in the database, the more valuable it is. The database has a feature so that you can retrieve just your own records, so you can use it for to keep maint data for your own use too. If you haven't submitted your repair or maintenance log, drop by the site, and send it in, it'll take 15 minutes. If you can't figure out my instructions, or have any questions, write me. If you don't have detailed records, that's fine! Use your shop invoices or your memory. Repair info is the most useful part of the database, maintenance is nice but not necessary. If you have your log on line already, don't hesitate to add to it any time you want. People with no repairs: it's important to hear from you too! Otherwise it will look like every PC800 requires repair. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:48:09 -0300 To: Betty Lise Anderson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Parking stickers (was: usefulness of the pc800 glovebox) Mine go on the FRONT of the fork part of the cover, so you can only really see it from the front of the bike. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:28:20 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: PC800: Parking stickers Here, they want the parking sticker on the back of the vehicle (car, truck, van, or motorcycle) as close to the license plate as possible, so they can compare the number on the parking sticker, to the license plate number on the vehicle and make sure they match up. Rich... At 09:48 AM 6/10/99 -0300, Daniel MacKay wrote: >Mine go on the FRONT of the fork part of the cover, so you can only really >see it from the front of the bike. > > >-- >Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca >Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Parking stickers/ State Inspection Stickers Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:45:23 PDT Here in Oklahoma the State vehicle inspection sticker is supposed to go on the outer left lower fork leg, just above the front axle bolt. The inspection sticker for my PC is plastered on the lower front section of the left brake rotor cover. The guys who inspect the bike each year are peeling off the sticker with broken finger nails in attempting not to scratch the plastic, bless their hearts. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. "When reality looks too ugly, just fantasize. It can't hurt." Jimmy Buffett _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:01:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Would you have sold your PC800 and quit this list if it were some jerk on PC800 that did it? Food for thought. John --- jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com wrote: > All, > > I have to let you all know about a bad experience I > had this evening. I > took my girlfriend to a local biker hang out on the > outskirts of San > Antonio, ------snip----- some > HD rider decided to > grab my girlfriends "bottom," -----more snip----- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:21:01 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Just a few minutes ago, I stumbled over to the Honda website to check a specification on the PC and realized that Honda has finally removed the PC from their site. *sniff* So, does anyone know off hand how many horsepower the PC engine is rated at? Rich -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: Subject: RE: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:28:13 -0400 Importance: Normal > Just a few minutes ago, I stumbled over to the Honda website to check a > specification on the PC and realized that Honda has finally > removed the PC > from their site. > > *sniff* > > So, does anyone know off hand how many horsepower the PC engine > is rated at? I thought it was 45hp; but then, I'm pretty sure that's only downhill... Dan Masi '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:41:11 -0700 Hi Rich, Dynoyet Holland www.dsvl.nl/~pce/mod-torque-hp.htm (if the page is still there) has the PC800 peaking at 46 hp @ 6,600 rpm. The torque curve is flat at 25+ ft. lbs. from 2,000-6,000 rpm. Roger Bowen 98 PC800 Grants Pass, OR ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: R. Fenwick >Just a few minutes ago, I stumbled over to the Honda website to check a >specification on the PC and realized that Honda has finally removed the PC >from their site. > >*sniff* > >So, does anyone know off hand how many horsepower the PC engine is rated at? > >Rich -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:38:02 -0700 47bhp if I remember correctly. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: R. Fenwick > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 1:21 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website > > Just a few minutes ago, I stumbled over to the Honda website to check a > specification on the PC and realized that Honda has finally removed the PC > from their site. > > *sniff* > > So, does anyone know off hand how many horsepower the PC engine is rated at? > > Rich > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: carb? Change GAS Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:41:24 -0400 Ahem... pardon me whilst I don my gown and mortar board... It's much more common for gasoline to contain ethanol than methanol.=20 Ethanol (C2H5OH) can be synthesized, but is also the product of natural = fermentation of sugars. It is, of course the alcohol in potables and is = often distilled from fermented corn for use as a gasoline additive. = Generally ethanol is NOT harmful to automotive fuel systems and provides = an inexpensive octane booster while at the same time scavenging water = from the fuel system, not to mention, of course, bolstering corn = farmers' incomes. Methanol (CH3OH), on the other hand, is always synthesized and although = the effect on gasoline is about the same as ethanol, it can damage = rubber parts in the fuel system unless the rubber materials were = selected for resistance. Natural ethanol is a "solar fuel" since it it is an agricultural product = and doesn't deplete petrochemical reserves. However, synthesized ethanol = and methanol are usually derived from natural gas and hence do deplete = our petrochemical reserves. Most likely the reason the Honda manual warns against methanol is the = potential damage to fuel system components. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:06 AM To: shelley kidby Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: carb? Change GAS Hi Jerry, shelley kidby wrote: > DONT use Methanol added gasolines > Couldn't be that simple with Honda, could it? I think Shell uses methanol in their gas (about 15% as I recall) and = that is what I mostly run in my PC, Civic, motorhome and truck. No problems = except poorer mileage since they also put that damn MTBE in California gas. = FWIW... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 132,000 miles Mother of all tupperware parties: http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id PAA37228 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:46:57 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:46:21 -0500 Subject: PC800: GIVI From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 I'm going to attempt to install the GIVI topbag (50L) to my PC this weekend. Any installation tips or comments? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doylefish@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:46:05 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! To: bobduwah@freewwweb.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have to agree with the Harley attitude. I have belonged or still belong to almost every motorcycle group. I still have 2 harleys that are part of my 17 motorcycle belongings. Most are very nice folks but there are still to many that want to keep that outlaw ora alive. I have seen a ATTITUDE of somewhat around some Goldwing groups but it is more of a stuck up type. It is like racism, a bad belief that is very slowly coming around. Doyle C. Frazier Jr. Lebanon, Oregon 95, 90 and 89 PC's -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:09:21 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "R. Fenwick" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: carb? Change GAS Good points. And although I will (and always do) run a 10% ethanol blend through my cars/truck, I will NOT run (if I can avoid it) an ethanol blend through the smaller engines; my PC, portable generator, mowers, string trimmers, or gas blower. I have experienced problems (especially on the John Deere string trimmers) with a tendency of the ethanol blends to "slime up" the carburetor. Of course, this is a *TINY* carburetor that we are talking about. Also, the fact that this trouble is with a 2 cycle (add oil to gas) engine could have something to do with it too. Steve Wilson: Do you run ethanol blends through your JD equipment? Any troubles? In the smaller engines and in the PC, I run 87 Amoco (90% of the time) or 87 Marathon. Both are touted on the pump to be 100% Gasoline. Rich... At 04:41 PM 6/10/99 -0400, Jim Randall wrote: >Ahem... pardon me whilst I don my gown and mortar board... > >It's much more common for gasoline to contain ethanol than methanol. > >Ethanol (C2H5OH) can be synthesized, but is also the product of natural >fermentation of sugars. It is, of course the alcohol in potables and is >often distilled from fermented corn for use as a gasoline additive. >Generally ethanol is NOT harmful to automotive fuel systems and provides an >inexpensive octane booster while at the same time scavenging water from the >fuel system, not to mention, of course, bolstering corn farmers' incomes. > >Methanol (CH3OH), on the other hand, is always synthesized and although the >effect on gasoline is about the same as ethanol, it can damage rubber parts >in the fuel system unless the rubber materials were selected for resistance. > >Natural ethanol is a "solar fuel" since it it is an agricultural product and >doesn't deplete petrochemical reserves. However, synthesized ethanol and >methanol are usually derived from natural gas and hence do deplete our >petrochemical reserves. > >Most likely the reason the Honda manual warns against methanol is the >potential damage to fuel system components. > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net >http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] >Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:06 AM >To: shelley kidby >Cc: Pacific Coast Owners >Subject: Re: PC800: carb? Change GAS > >Hi Jerry, > >shelley kidby wrote: > >> DONT use Methanol added gasolines >> Couldn't be that simple with Honda, could it? > >I think Shell uses methanol in their gas (about 15% as I recall) and that is >what I mostly run in my PC, Civic, motorhome and truck. No problems except >poorer mileage since they also put that damn MTBE in California gas. FWIW... > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >132,000 miles > >Mother of all tupperware parties: > http://www.directcon.net/lcshepp/TGPCHPCMY2KMR.html > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: Subject: Re: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:17:13 +0200 On My MSO from Honda they state 65 Hp and the dynojet in Holland shows 46. Torill and mine PC's are registered and taxed with 46. We pay import taxes here on Hp and cubic centimeters on the engine. So with a copy from the Internet the 46 HP on the dyno from Holland saved us some thousand NOK in taxes ! Regards from Arvid Stavanger Norway NB. Be on the lookout for Emile's pictures from the trip in Norway. They will soon be available on the Net !! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: 10. juni 1999 22:39 Subject: RE: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website >47bhp if I remember correctly. > > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to >be done so I can start riding again! > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: Subject: Re: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:46:46 +0200 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Arvid Løvik To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: 10. juni 1999 23:20 Subject: Re: PC800: The PC is off the Honda website >On My MSO from Honda they state 65 Hp and the dynojet in Holland shows 46. WRONG, I should have checked before writing !!! The Honda MSO state 60 SAE PS !!!! Regards Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:00:37 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Anyone up for a quick ride up north? I realize this is extremely short notice, but if you have nothing better to do, come join us for some Fun under the Midnight Sun. > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > ‘99 FUNCTION AT THE JUNCTION © > > It comes to pass each year in the land of the midnight sun that as the > days grow longer the nights often grow shorter. (It’s a mathematical > thing.) As the sun and earth’s orbit collaborate to draw nigh the > longest Saturday of the year, riders in the Great Land begin to feel the > Tokian Tug. > > The Tug is to the Junction. > > And the Junction is at Tok in the land called Alaska . > > And it is adequate. > > In this the year of Y2K minus one half, it is revealed that The Function > at the Junction shall Happen on the Nineteenth of June where it always > happens: at the Golden Bear motel and campground smack dab in the > middle of beautiful downtown Tok. > > The Function is an un-aligned, non-affiliated, un-structured non-event > miles from nowhere. It was conceived, lo these many seasons past, by > our beloved Father of the Function, Papa Arleyroe and it is dedicated to > the proposition that all motorcyclists are endowed with certain > unalienable rights, and among these are a good ride and a good time. > All are invited, members and non-members alike. There are no > restrictions, no fees, no pins and only one rule: thou shalt Function. > Folks of various descriptions shall appear on all manner of motorcycles > (and lesser conveyances) and being there, shall be Functional. > > Riders will arrive from Anchorage and Fairbanks and Dawson and such. > Functioneers have followed the Urge from as far away as Homer and > Whitehorse and Lubbock and Iowa. They have come from strange lands like > Canada, eh? And other parts of Texas. They come alone, or together. > Some wear colors, such as black. > > They Function at the Junction ©. > > The wisest of Those Who Would Function, aware that this is also the > season of the Winnebago, reserve rooms or campsites by contacting the > Golden Bear in Tok, Alaska. One way to do that is by telephone > (888-252-2123). Another would be email (mbrooks@polarnet.com). Other > fine accommodations may be found at Young’s Motel (907-883-4411) next to > Fast Eddies Fine Food. > > Until June 19th. The Urge be with you. -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What is the question that Alaskans most frequently ask about Global Warming? "When?" ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John Bunton To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New to list Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:19:16 -0700 Let me know if I break a rule, but be gentle (G) My wife just bought a PC800 and is looking for some parts, namely the left mirror (89 pearl white) and a spoiler. We are also trying to find any and all ways to LOWER the bike an additional inch or so . . . any suggestions? Thanks! John Bunton -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:43:20 -0700 From: M Ham To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Ammetter installation HELP! Just installed a voltmeter and ammeter on my PC today. Wiring the voltmeter was easy and it works perfectly. However, I'm having problems wiring the ammeter. Has anyone on the list wired an ammeter to their PC? If so, could you please help me out and tell me what wire I should be tapping into for it to work correctly. Also, what results/readings do you see on the ammeter when traveling? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark Ham Folsom CA '96 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:57:01 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "R. Fenwick" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: PC800: carb? Change GAS "R. Fenwick" wrote: > I have experienced problems (especially on the John Deere string trimmers) > with a tendency of the ethanol blends to "slime up" the carburetor. Of > course, this is a *TINY* carburetor that we are talking about. Also, the > fact that this trouble is with a 2 cycle (add oil to gas) engine could have > something to do with it too. > > Steve Wilson: Do you run ethanol blends through your JD equipment? Any > troubles? Nothing but regular 85 or 87 octane Citgo plain gasoline. No problem for the last 10 years but one other thing to consider is that my mixed gas ( 2.5 gals ) only stays in the can for about 1 week. Not much time for gunking to take place. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Nyffeler" To: "PC800 Group" Subject: PC800: Hard Shifting Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:06:50 -0500 Can the oil level in the engine contribute to hard shifting? I have tried both crude based, 10W40 & 20W50 from Honda. Neither weight has made a difference in ease of shifting. I have bled the clutch system 3 times in hopes that there was air in the line. Some where I read that oil level can contribute to hard shifting. I always keep the oil level at the top of the crosshatch section of the stick, & check it in the prescribed manner listed in the manual. Has anyone else experienced the same problem? The PC is an '89 with 11K miles. I bought it last July with 6.1K miles and have changed the oil each 3k miles. Would one of the full synthetics be helpful? I understand that Mobil is coming out with a Mobil 1 for motorcycles. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Jim Nyffeler nyfty@navix.net 1989 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: PC800: Rifle Customer Service To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have to brag on Rifle a little bit here. I had a windshield that I got months ago (long story, I was moving at the time) from the sorry Honda stealer in Gainesville, Florida. Anyway, I just unpacked the windshield, and the dummies had ordered the wrong height! So I call up Rifle (toll free number) and they offer to send me another windshield at no charge. They even pay shipping. They shipped it right away and charged it to my credit card. When they receive the one that I am returning, they will credit my card back for the full amount. Well, I don't know about you, but customer service means a lot to me. They were very courteous and gave me no problems at all. No questions asked. Tony Miller === My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Ill never wave to another Harley rider! of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:01:55 EDT." Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:21:10 -0500 "Barrett, Chris" writes: > Wow!! Harley guys actually wave!! I thought they were too busy trying > to hold their shoddy, ill-equipped POS-bikes together. Harley riders don't wave. You are mistaken. What is actually happening is parts are flying off their bike wishing to join your bike. When a Harley rider appears to be waving he's actually trying to catch parts flying off his bike. And with good reason as there more than a little truth in the saying, "H-D means, 'Hundred Dollars'. Every part with an H-D on it costs $100." So Harley riders waving their arms are not really waving, just trying to save a Hundred Dollars. ;-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Leland C. Sheppard" cc: John & Rhoda Strode , Pacific Coast Owners From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Another Vendor Report of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:30:36 EDT." <375F3F6B.2400C00B@directcon.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:14:35 -0500 "Leland C. Sheppard" writes: > Hi John and Rhoda, > > John & Rhoda Strode wrote: > > > We have been waiting on tires sense May 12 from Dennis Kirk. Seems they go > > everywhere but here. They even made it back to Dennis. UPS said they > > should be here Thursday. Will hold my breath until noon. Rear tires worn > > out on both PC's. > > Incredible. I bought my first 3 or 4 sets of tires for my PC from Dennis Kir k > and never had a problem. But did you notice the problem appears to be with UPS, and not with Dennis Kirk? Apparently UPS returned the tires to the sender. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Leland C. Sheppard" cc: shelley kidby , Pacific Coast Owners From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: carb? Change GAS of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:05:54 EDT." <375F39A1.2BA20809@directcon.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:12:30 -0500 "Leland C. Sheppard" writes: > Hi Jerry, > > shelley kidby wrote: > > > DONT use Methanol added gasolines > > Couldn't be that simple with Honda, could it? > > I think Shell uses methanol in their gas (about 15% as I recall) and that is > what I mostly run in my PC, Civic, motorhome and truck. No problems except > poorer mileage since they also put that damn MTBE in California gas. FWIW... In some states, gas stations have to label pumps of gas cut with alcohol. I don't believe Indiana requires labels. Not sure about Alabama. OTOH my car and PC are quite happy with the local bottom grade Shell gas. The PC got 54 MPG recently on a 150 mile day on 55 MPH roads. But falls to 48 MPG on my daily commute, 18 miles each way, 14 miles at 65 to 75 MPH. Over the winter when it would take 4 to 6 weeks to burn a tank of gas, milage dropped to 44. As a calibration reference, my car absolutely does not much care for the local Exxon gas, which is usually $0.05 less than Shell. An Infiniti G20, same engine as the Nissan SE-R. Same commute yeilds 28 MPG on Shell, 26 on Exxon. I have every gallon burned in 71k miles logged and *know* when the car is happy. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:24:01 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Tony Miller" , Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Customer Service Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:22:05 -0700 The Honda stealer in Gainsville may have ordered the wrong height or Rifle may have sent the wrong height. So perhaps the Rifle customer service just balanced out the lousy job they did in the first place no matter how bad your dealer was. :-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tony Miller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: PC800: Rifle Customer Service >I have to brag on Rifle a little bit here. > >I had a windshield that I got months ago (long story, >I was moving at the time) from the sorry Honda stealer >in Gainesville, Florida. > >Anyway, I just unpacked the windshield, and the >dummies had ordered the wrong height! So I call up >Rifle (toll free number) and they offer to send me >another windshield at no charge. They even >pay shipping. They shipped it right away and charged >it to my credit card. When they receive the one that >I am returning, they will credit my card back for the >full amount. > >Well, I don't know about you, but customer service >means a lot to me. They were very courteous and gave >me no problems at all. No questions asked. > >Tony Miller >=== >My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeffguntert@taconic.net To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:35:38 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Customer Service Reply-to: jeffguntert@taconic.net My experience with Rifle has been a VERY positive one. They are courteous and accomodating. Judging from the Honda dealers here in the Albany, NY area I have the same problem as Tony does. The dealers here have a severe attitude, lousy customer service and mere ignorance to their cutomers needs. THAT is my primary reason for selling my PC! Everytime I go in for service I have to wait 6-8 weeks. Needless to say I performed my 600 mile service myself! I worked in the retail market (Montgomery Ward Store Manager) for almost 10 years, and I hope that Albany, NY is the exception to the rule. Never have I walked into a nationally named store to see handwritten signs expressly forbidding the return of ANYTHING! What the heck gives? I love my PC, but if I can't get quality service/support from my local dealer then it's time to move on. The local BMW dealer will drop everything when there is a break-in related issue or if you are in a hurry for a quick fix. That's where I went to.... again. Just my .02 Jeffrey A. Guntert Albany, NY 1996 PC (Almost gone) 1993 K75RT Send reply to: "Jim Alexander" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Tony Miller" , Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Customer Service Date sent: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:22:05 -0700 > The Honda stealer in Gainsville may have ordered the wrong height or Rifle > may have sent the wrong height. So perhaps the Rifle customer service just > balanced out the lousy job they did in the first place no matter how bad > your dealer was. :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Miller > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 6:31 PM > Subject: PC800: Rifle Customer Service > > > >I have to brag on Rifle a little bit here. > > > >I had a windshield that I got months ago (long story, > >I was moving at the time) from the sorry Honda stealer > >in Gainesville, Florida. > > > >Anyway, I just unpacked the windshield, and the > >dummies had ordered the wrong height! So I call up > >Rifle (toll free number) and they offer to send me > >another windshield at no charge. They even > >pay shipping. They shipped it right away and charged > >it to my credit card. When they receive the one that > >I am returning, they will credit my card back for the > >full amount. > > > >Well, I don't know about you, but customer service > >means a lot to me. They were very courteous and gave > >me no problems at all. No questions asked. > > > >Tony Miller > >=== > >My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:56:35 EDT Subject: Re: PC800: Inspection stickers in NC To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 6/10/99 8:14:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu writes: << I don't know if he's gotten any tickets, but at least he didn't mess up his bikes >> In NC you are required to put an Inspection sticker on the right fork. After having my PC inspected last year, I asked if they could just give me the sticker and if I was ever pulled over I would present to the cop. "No can do". According to NC law, the inspectore must apply the sticker to the bike. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:44:03 -0700 (PDT) To: anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Betty Lise Anderson) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Parking stickers of Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:18:40 +0100 Hi Betty. something about possible loss of a 'hang tag - parking sticker.. laminated..' Has anyone tried sticking the ok to park sticker on their front Disc Lock? seems like that would keep it secure and make it transportable and have it in the vicinity of the fork.. Jerry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:57:04 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:49:35 -0500 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Re: PC800: Ammetter installation HELP! To: M Ham Cc: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Mark-- Use the search engine to find or simply locate 9902msg00536 and 9902msg0641 in the archives. Also, there are some pictures in the list server archives under "gauges special." --David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:11:42 -0700 (PDT) To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: chiodinc@hotmail.com (Chuck Chiodini), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start Hi Doug, The only drawback.. weak link.. horn.. OFF/RUN switch Not that you'll ever carry my kinda commute load, but everytime I lift my trunk lid the bungeed on stereo box tilts w/the seat and lays onto the bars invariably turning the switch OFF. (box is 12x12x32 atop 2 on edge 2x4s that bridge the amp under the box - 12pkCD, DSP unit and the receiver sections are atop the box) Three years of commuting this way, many times leaving the radio strapped on at home garage and leaning on the bars.. The switch continues to work, the trunk lid is not warped from the abuse (passenger seat and grab rails show definite wear) IMHO the switch is not a weak link. Jerry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:18:50 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Betty Lise Anderson Subject: PC800: waterproof pushbutton switches for MC dash? Hi, I put in hazard flashers last year, but they shipped with it a simple metal toggle switch, ugly to behold, and not something I'd put on the dashboard. I put it in the fairing pocket, which was stupid becuase the first time I needed was not when I had to pull over but when traffic suddely got slow on the interstate and I didn't want to get rear-ended. Opening the fairing pocket while riding is a bad idea (according to the sticker) and was difficult. What I REALLY want to do is put a push button switch on the dash somewhere, but it would have to be a waterproof one. I have lots of electronics catalogs but haven't found anything yet. I would imagine auto parts stores would only sell switches intended to go inside the car. I thought of going to a marina that sells boat parts, but maybe someone out there in PC land has been down this road before. Any idea of sources for waterproof push button switches? (I have this terrible feeling suddenly that maybe I asked this question last year...but this year I'm really going to change it.) Betty Lise Anderson '90 PC 7800 miles (4800 of my very own since last July) Columbus, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:34:13 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "Betty Lise Anderson" Subject: Re: PC800: waterproof pushbutton switches for MC dash? Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:30:39 -0700 Go to a store which serves the marine industry, like a boating supply store. You should be able to find a collection of different water resistant switches there. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Betty Lise Anderson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 6:22 AM Subject: PC800: waterproof pushbutton switches for MC dash? > >Hi, > >I put in hazard flashers last year, but they shipped with it a simple metal >toggle switch, ugly to behold, and not something I'd put on the dashboard. >I put it in the fairing pocket, which was stupid becuase the first time I >needed was not when I had to pull over but when traffic suddely got slow on >the interstate and I didn't want to get rear-ended. Opening the fairing >pocket while riding is a bad idea (according to the sticker) and was >difficult. > >What I REALLY want to do is put a push button switch on the dash somewhere, >but it would have to be a waterproof one. I have lots of electronics >catalogs but haven't found anything yet. I would imagine auto parts stores >would only sell switches intended to go inside the car. I thought of going >to a marina that sells boat parts, but maybe someone out there in PC land >has been down this road before. Any idea of sources for waterproof push >button switches? > >(I have this terrible feeling suddenly that maybe I asked this question >last year...but this year I'm really going to change it.) > >Betty Lise Anderson >'90 PC >7800 miles (4800 of my very own since last July) >Columbus, Ohio > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:34:58 -0300 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: silly activity No. 85 I come in to work on flex-ish time, and I usually blow in sometime between 9 and 9:30. It often happens that many of my co-workers have been at work for an hour and a half or two, and the smokers are outside taking their first break of the day right next to the cycle parking spots. On my way in, I get to a reasonable speed, click into neutral, and hit the killswitch about a half short block away from the building and coast in to the parking spot, often heeled over dramatically, with the front wheel swishing inches away from the beautiful chrome-y Harley which parks in the adjacent space (only on absolutely dry dust-free days with a forecast probability of precipitation of 0% -- it like many others is a fair-weather Harley while the PC is out any ice-free day of the year.) Of course, all of these people are gone home by the time I leave, so most of them have never heard the bike running. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id JAA44042 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:22:05 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:21:27 -0500 Subject: PC800: Do I need a new battery? From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 Let's say (theoretically) that I forgot to check the engine cutoff switch, and it is in the off position. Now, I try to start the PC, and of course it chugs and does not start (I wish it just did nothing). On my bike, if I do this even two or three times, for say 3-4 seconds each, my battery is hosed. It simply won't start even if I turn the on/off switch back to on - usually won't even turn over. Charges up nicely after a push-start, though. Funny thing is, the light will shine brightly throughout. Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why would the light shine bright? Is it usual to get only two tries or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New battery? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson P.S. Spare the lectures on checking the cutoff switch first - I know, I know... FINE-C, etc. etc. But that's another story. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:33:28 -0300 To: pc800 From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? Rich: >Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why >would the light shine bright? The starter eats a LOT more power than the headlight. >Is it usual to get only two tries >or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New >battery? No, you should be able to crank the engine for a couple of minutes solid with a good battery -- don't actually do this because the motor will heat and it's not good for your battery either. Yeah, it is probably time for a new battery for you. There is a small possibility that the starter (commutator or bearings) is going bad but battery, especially if it's over five years old, is getting long in the tooth.. Battery and starter stuff is under "Electrical" in the PC maint/repair database, http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ -dan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:26 -0400 Subject: PC800: givi red About the Givi: The red one came in. It is definitely more tomato colored than the PC. I just got it out of the box last night when I got in from out of town, so I haven't seen it in the sun yet, but I bet it'll be fine in the daylight. Perhaps I'll do like Tim Davies suggested on day and buy the matching paint from honda .. couldn't be that expensive to paint that lid. As it stands, it's not a perfect match, but then red is one of the hardest colors to match. Plus, I don't think the casual observer will ever notice. Now I'm waiting on someone asking about my "Honda Maxia", since those are the two labels you see prominently from the rear. I think I like the sound of that better than I do Pacific Coast! Maybe it's time to go stealth. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:48:25 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start >>IMHO the switch is not a weak link. The only reason I suspect I could have problems is that I've heard at least one comment about the hi/lo switch failing (I think from Leland), and several comments about the engine on-off swtich having to be replaced. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: jeffguntert@taconic.net cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:00:11 -0400 Subject: PC800: honda dealer customer service >I love my PC, but if I can't get quality service/support from my local >dealer then it's time to move on. The local BMW dealer will drop >everything when there is a break-in related issue or if you are in a >hurry for a quick fix. That's where I went to.... again. My dealer's pretty good. It's just dealer by dealer. I actually drive a Mercedes-Benz C230, which is the baby of the whole lot, but still a 30k+ car, and I don't get satisfactory service out of my dealer. The Mercedes is a top-notch quality car, no doubt about it, but considering the cost of service and parts, and the poor service of the dealership, I'll not buy another here in Tuscaloosa. Whereas the local Toyota dealer treated me and my previous 4x4 like a king. I'll be getting an Accord as my next car. And good think about the service of your BMW dealer . . you'll need to see him a lot more than you would a Honda dealer. I spent the past year doing computer work for Honda Canada (where they build the all-new Oddysey). It is the single most reason I chose to purchase a Honda over anything else. The attention to detail and devotion to the highest quality is unparalleled anywhere (and I've been inside quite a few other car plants). It is also the reason that if and when I ever decide to "move up" from the PC, it will no doubt be to an ST1100 or Valk or something with the red wings on it. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:34:39 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Won't start At 10:48 11/6/99, dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: >>>IMHO the switch is not a weak link. It depends on the climate and whether you park your bike outdoors or not. The switches face up, and "outdoor" bikes will get grime in the kill switch which will prevent 'em from starting. It doesn't happen if you use the switch all the time because its contacts are somewhat self-wiping, but if you don't touch the switch for a long time, then turn it off, sometimes it won't come back on. Flipping the switch a few times usually fixes it. The same thing happens to the headlight switch, and if you haven't used it for a while you will flip the switch at night and be dismayed to have NO headlight. There's one ref to dirty killswitch in http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ ... search just on the word "kill". Both of my bikes are "outdoor" bikes, and I've had dirty switch problems with both headlight and kill. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:39:56 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: givi red Doug, Givi lists two reds in their catalog. R300 and R301. Which one did you get? Steve DeLorey dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > About the Givi: The red one came in. It is definitely more tomato colored than > the PC. I just got it out of the box last night when I got in from out of town, > so I haven't seen it in the sun yet, but I bet it'll be fine in the daylight. > Perhaps I'll do like Tim Davies suggested on day and buy the matching paint from > honda .. couldn't be that expensive to paint that lid. > > As it stands, it's not a perfect match, but then red is one of the hardest > colors to match. Plus, I don't think the casual observer will ever notice. Now > I'm waiting on someone asking about my "Honda Maxia", since those are the two > labels you see prominently from the rear. I think I like the sound of that > better than I do Pacific Coast! Maybe it's time to go stealth. > > Doug Wilkerson > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:43:20 -0500 From: Steve DeLorey To: Rich Gross CC: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? Rich, I guess the basic question is, How old is your battery. My rule of thumb is, after four years replace it if it seems weak. Steve DeLorey Rich Gross wrote: > Let's say (theoretically) that I forgot to check the engine > cutoff switch, and it is in the off position. Now, I try to start > the PC, and of course it chugs and does not start (I wish it just > did nothing). > > On my bike, if I do this even two or three times, for say 3-4 > seconds each, my battery is hosed. It simply won't start even if > I turn the on/off switch back to on - usually won't even turn > over. Charges up nicely after a push-start, though. > > Funny thing is, the light will shine brightly throughout. > > Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why > would the light shine bright? Is it usual to get only two tries > or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New > battery? > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > > P.S. Spare the lectures on checking the cutoff switch first - I > know, I know... FINE-C, etc. etc. But that's another story. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: "Pc800@Hpc. Uh. Edu" Subject: PC800: My Nolan Trend is here! Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:24:03 -0400 Importance: Normal If anyone is thinking about picking up one of these helmets, I highly recommend doing it through none other than PC lister Steve Wilson. Besides the great price, he helped me out in a lot of ways, was very responsive and very prompt. Of course, since he drives a PC, it doesn't need to be said that he's a really good guy... More on the Nolan once I actually get to ride with it. For now, I think I'm gonna just remove the inside yellow tag completely (the one that covers up 2 to 4 air holes)... Dan Masi '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dan Masi" To: Cc: Subject: RE: PC800: honda dealer customer service Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:29:35 -0400 Importance: Normal > My dealer's pretty good. It's just dealer by dealer. I actually drive a > Mercedes-Benz C230, which is the baby of the whole lot, but > still a 30k+ car, > and I don't get satisfactory service out of my dealer. The Mercedes is a > top-notch quality car, no doubt about it, but considering the > cost of service and parts, and the poor service of the dealership, > I'll not buy another here ... I'll be getting an Accord as my next car. While not pc-related, as an owner of many Honda cars previously, I somewhat agree with this. But I finally found something that was up to the Honda challenge, and I'll never look back. I'm now as gonzo over my Audi A4 as people here are over their PCs, and I highly recommend that if you're considering replacing the C230 with an Accord, that you give the A4 a good look, too. > I spent the past year doing computer work for Honda Canada > (where they build the all-new Oddysey). I'd love to see that. The new Oddysey is just overflowing with thoughtful design... great machine, and I'm sure someday I'll be headed that route. :-) Dan Masi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: Steve DeLorey cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:46:43 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: givi red The R300 is the flat "Ducati Racing Red" that best matches the '97 '98 red of the PC. Mine's a '98, so I ordered the R300. I went for the black at first, but that's a long story that I'm sure no one on the list wants to hear again. The R301 is a candy apple red, darker metallic, which I'm told goes well with the '90. Doug Wilkerson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Vartan Kazarov To: dan_masi@mentorg.com, dwilkers@us.ibm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: honda dealer customer service Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:57:20 PDT Let's not start "A4 vs 3 Series" thread -- Vartan Kazarov 98PC800 "Red October" >From: "Dan Masi" >To: >CC: >Subject: RE: PC800: honda dealer customer service >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:29:35 -0400 > > > > My dealer's pretty good. It's just dealer by dealer. I actually drive >a > > Mercedes-Benz C230, which is the baby of the whole lot, but > > still a 30k+ car, > > and I don't get satisfactory service out of my dealer. The Mercedes is >a > > top-notch quality car, no doubt about it, but considering the > > cost of service and parts, and the poor service of the dealership, > > I'll not buy another here ... I'll be getting an Accord as my next car. > >While not pc-related, as an owner of many Honda cars previously, >I somewhat agree with this. But I finally found something that >was up to the Honda challenge, and I'll never look back. I'm >now as gonzo over my Audi A4 as people here are over their PCs, and >I highly recommend that if you're considering replacing the C230 with >an Accord, that you give the A4 a good look, too. > > > I spent the past year doing computer work for Honda Canada > > (where they build the all-new Oddysey). > >I'd love to see that. The new Oddysey is just overflowing with >thoughtful design... great machine, and I'm sure someday I'll >be headed that route. :-) > >Dan Masi > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) To: sdelorey@mo.net (Steve DeLorey) Cc: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu (Rich Gross), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Subject: Re: PC800: Battery Tender! 10:43:20 -0500 Steve, Battery Tender! About 40 bucks most mail order places. Plug in pigtail when you get home.. Always park next to it @ home.. You'll extend the life of the little battery immensely! (if you pick up the above habit) Regards, Jerry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:59:08 -0800 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: PC800: From the HSTA list: Mobil's New "Tri-Synthetic" Mike Guillory wrote: > > This week, perusing motor oil on the shelves, I noticed that Mobil 1 has a > new designation on the container - "Tri-Synthetic". So I called the Mobil > Oil tech info line (800-ask-mobil) and asked, "Is this a new formulation, > or is this new advertising?" Here's what I found out... > > The "Tri-Syntehtic" is a new formulation. Although they didn't call it > "Di-Synthetic", that's what the old oil was, because its base stock was a > mixture of 2 synthetic fluids. The new one has the same 2, with an > additional 3rd fluid which they say makes it a better-performing lubricant. > And the 15w50 is still *not* Energy-conserving. But that's just part of > the story... > > The new Mobil 1 oils (still available in motorcyclists' favorite 15w50 > weight) meet the new "SK" classification which will replace "SJ", but it > still meets "CF" for diesel which, if you don't already know, is a good > thing! But there is a 'downside' which some of you worry a lot about. > The new "SK" oils will have even lower concentrations of the > zinc/phosphorous additive that some say is necessary to protect, especially > in severe service, or older Magnas and their ugly stepsisters, the Sabre. > > Officially, Mobil are recommending you use the Mobil motorcycle-specific > oil. However, if you are a Mobil 1 fan, you just might want to *go to your > favorite oil store and buy a 1 or 2 year supply of Mobil 1 15w50 in the old > style container* because it just may be a better oil for motorcycles than > the new "Tri-Synthetic" formulations. > > Or, do what I do. Add half of a 15-ounce container of STP oil treatment > for new cars (black plastic container, available at PepBoys) with each oil > change. This stuff is just a 4X concentration of zinc/phosphorous additive > in motor oil, and will boost your zinc/phosphorous level back to where it > was when "SG" oils were recommended for most motorcycles. You don't want > to use the STP stuff in either blue or red containers because those also > contain polymer thickeners which you don't need. > > Got more questions? Call Mobil. That's where I got all my info because I > was curious, and I figured some of you are curious also!! > > Mike in Houston; '94 VFR; '85 Magna 1100; Email qsystems@wt.net > (What's retirement like? Imagine each week having 6 Saturdays and a > Sunday!)) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W What is the question that Alaskans most frequently ask about Global Warming? "When?" ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:33:18 +0200 Had the exact same thing two weeks ago. Replaced the 9 year old, original battery with a new one, difference was incredible. It was indeed the starter taking so much power that the plugs didn't spark. Cranking could only be done for a short moment before it was dead. Emile http://fly.to/emile ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rich Gross To: pc800 Sent: vrijdag 11 juni 1999 16:21 Subject: PC800: Do I need a new battery? Let's say (theoretically) that I forgot to check the engine cutoff switch, and it is in the off position. Now, I try to start the PC, and of course it chugs and does not start (I wish it just did nothing). On my bike, if I do this even two or three times, for say 3-4 seconds each, my battery is hosed. It simply won't start even if I turn the on/off switch back to on - usually won't even turn over. Charges up nicely after a push-start, though. Funny thing is, the light will shine brightly throughout. Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why would the light shine bright? Is it usual to get only two tries or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New battery? Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson P.S. Spare the lectures on checking the cutoff switch first - I know, I know... FINE-C, etc. etc. But that's another story. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederic Misumi Subject: PC800: Trailer in Seattle To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dear list members: Would anyone in the Northwest area (Seattle) have a clean and safe motorcycle trailer that they are willing to allow me to try for use overnight on 6/18 - 6/19? Regards, Frederic K. Misumi 206/286-7771 fredm@disciples.com === Frederic K. Misumi fredm@disciples.com 206/286-7771 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kidbys@webtv.net (shelley kidby) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: activity No. 85 in 65 1999 10:34:58 -0300 --WebTV-Mail-170313371-4863 Daniel, HO-HO & heh heh heh brought memories back to me.. was in Pensacola Fla 1965 w/new 64 BSA 650 Lightning @ Schooners on the beach having Falstaff and Bud w/aviation cadet buddies when this Navy Ensign comes over to our table and asks about the bike, could his lady friend have a ride? SURE, you'ld let her ride behind me? He said of course, you were a good cadet officer in my last week @ USNaval School Preflight, now you can do me a favor and take her for a ride. Long story, short.. I had a favorite sidewalk that I could launch off onto the beach.. is night - no sunbathers.. young lady is wearing white top and shorts.. I grab some throttle and off we jUMp and discover tide is IN.. very little wet sand to run on.. see dark flat area - go for it.. ever seen a 650cc 2 wheel surfboard? The flat spot was about 2 feet deep.. we went swimming.. didnt get hurt.. drug the bike to dry area. spent about 45min kicking (no lectric start those days) drove back to bar where I came in like you said.. brakes were still soaked (drums back then) and I knocked five bikes over coming to an arrested carrier qual landing (that's what I told them) Ensign wasnt pleased with soaked lady; biker friends werent pleased with damage; Ensign laughed @ the bikers dilema; bikers oogled the practically naked lady (cant cover much w/wet white cotton); I just stood there and told the truth and lived through it! What a night! I'm gettin too olt fer this, I certainly couldnt repeat the act (was long before discovery that drink and drive dont mix) Jerry --WebTV-Mail-170313371-4863 postoffice-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:36:01 -0700 (PDT) mailsorter-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id GAA06848; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:35:59 -0700 (PDT) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAD11302; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:35:59 -0500 (CDT) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26358 for ; ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:34:58 -0300 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: silly activity No. 85 I come in to work on flex-ish time, and I usually blow in sometime between 9 and 9:30. It often happens that many of my co-workers have been at work for an hour and a half or two, and the smokers are outside taking their first break of the day right next to the cycle parking spots. On my way in, I get to a reasonable speed, click into neutral, and hit the killswitch about a half short block away from the building and coast in to the parking spot, often heeled over dramatically, with the front wheel swishing inches away from the beautiful chrome-y Harley which parks in the adjacent space (only on absolutely dry dust-free days with a forecast probability of precipitation of 0% -- it like many others is a fair-weather Harley while the PC is out any ice-free day of the year.) Of course, all of these people are gone home by the time I leave, so most of them have never heard the bike running. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-170313371-4863-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:25:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Customer Service To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jim, if you have never dealt with Streit's Honda in Gainesville, Florida, you do not know how useless a dealer can be. Believe me. There is no question in my mind who goofed. Tony --- Jim Alexander wrote: > The Honda stealer in Gainsville may have ordered the > wrong height or Rifle > may have sent the wrong height. So perhaps the > Rifle customer service just > balanced out the lousy job they did in the first > place no matter how bad > your dealer was. :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Miller > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 6:31 PM > Subject: PC800: Rifle Customer Service > > > >I have to brag on Rifle a little bit here. > > > >I had a windshield that I got months ago (long > story, > >I was moving at the time) from the sorry Honda > stealer > >in Gainesville, Florida. > > > >Anyway, I just unpacked the windshield, and the > >dummies had ordered the wrong height! So I call up > >Rifle (toll free number) and they offer to send me > >another windshield at no charge. They > even > >pay shipping. They shipped it right away and > charged > >it to my credit card. When they receive the one > that > >I am returning, they will credit my card back for > the > >full amount. > > > >Well, I don't know about you, but customer service > >means a lot to me. They were very courteous and > gave > >me no problems at all. No questions asked. > > > >Tony Miller > >=== > >My homepage URL is > http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe > pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to > pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > === My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: FOR SALE Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:00:29 -0700 A friend of mine has asked me to post this on the list..His wife, now = proud owner of 98 PC has chosen to go for a trike... 1998 PC 800... Rifle Windshield 3/1 CB/AM/FM Radio Third brake lights Fog = Lights =20 The beautiful Red in color 5500 miles Paducah Ky =20 $6,900 obo 270-442-1835, (leave message) =20 you can contact them direct or e mail me.. post this on=20 the list..His wife, now proud owner of 98 PC has chosen to go for a=20 trike...
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter Noeth To: PC800 , "'Emile Nossin'" Subject: RE: PC800: Do I need a new battery? Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:15:30 -0700 As a secondary battery (one that can be recharged) ages, its internal resistance increases. This --decreases-- the amount of current it can supply to a load while maintaining its rated voltage (assuming a full charge). It can however appear to be working just fine if supplying a lesser amount of current to a load. That is why the headlights can appear to be fully bright, but the battery can barely crank the engine. The starter requires a considerable higher amount of current than the lights. In Emile's case, there was enough power to marginally turn the starter, but the ignition system would not function because the voltage was excessivly low at that time. The same is true for primary batteries (ones not designed to be recharged), but since we dispose of them when they get to this point, instead of recharging them and expecting them to be 100% again, we expect this. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k, waiting for the new house to be done so I can start riding again! > ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 2:33 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? > > Had the exact same thing two weeks ago. > Replaced the 9 year old, original battery with > a new one, difference was incredible. > It was indeed the starter taking so much power > that the plugs didn't spark. Cranking could only > be done for a short moment before it was dead. > > Emile > http://fly.to/emile > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rich Gross > To: pc800 > Sent: vrijdag 11 juni 1999 16:21 > Subject: PC800: Do I need a new battery? > > > Let's say (theoretically) that I forgot to check the engine > cutoff switch, and it is in the off position. Now, I try to start > the PC, and of course it chugs and does not start (I wish it just > did nothing). > > On my bike, if I do this even two or three times, for say 3-4 > seconds each, my battery is hosed. It simply won't start even if > I turn the on/off switch back to on - usually won't even turn > over. Charges up nicely after a push-start, though. > > Funny thing is, the light will shine brightly throughout. > > Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why > would the light shine bright? Is it usual to get only two tries > or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New > battery? > > Rich > Madison, WI > 1994 PC800: Jetson > > P.S. Spare the lectures on checking the cutoff switch first - I > know, I know... FINE-C, etc. etc. But that's another story. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id UAA212758 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:20:23 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:15:14 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 Chuck Chiodini said: > Since your battery charges after the bike runs, I'd assume your > stator and regulator/rectifier are O.K. Makes sense, Chuck. I think I'll just replace it. Not sure just how old it is, and it is cheap insurance against getting stranded somewhere. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. id UAA219444 (8.9.1/50); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:24:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:19:14 -0500 Subject: PC800: Givi From: "Rich Gross" To: pc800 Just finished installing the GIVI Maxia topbox on my PC - under an hour, no damage to me or Jetson. Seems solid. I was warned here about the backrest being useless, but I bought it on my passenger's insistence. Since she is also my wife, I had little choice. I got on the passenger seat without it, and though the box makes a rather hard backrest, the position and height seemed comfortable for me. With the backrest, it seemed awkward. I'll see what Lynn says - even if she doesn't like the backrest it is easily removed (though two holes will need plugging). The flat black finish blends well with my 94 PC. I am betting I will just leave it on all the time. Rich Madison, WI 1994 PC800: Jetson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. transient id 488; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:41:57 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:33:29 -0700 To: rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu (rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu), pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Torok Subject: Re: PC800: Do I need a new battery? >Something does not make sense to me: if it is a weak battery, why >would the light shine bright? Is it usual to get only two tries >or so at starting before the battery checks out? Stator? New >battery? New battery. Definately. The headlight can shine brightly even on a weak charge while the starter draws several amps, starving the rest of the electrical system including the coils/plugs. I'd do it soon too because with a severely weak battery the charging system works overtime to try to bring the charge up on a battery that will simply never come up to full charge. I wouldn't be surprised if running a bike on a weak/damaged battery for a longer period of time could lead to more serious charging system problems. Greg Torok 97 PC800 Bellingham, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:49:14 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: K&N Filter My local dealer has a K&N air filter for a PC800 if any one needs one and is having trouble finding one. He said $45 including shipping to anywhere in the 48 states. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 1974 Kawasaki Z1-A 900 (The Mistress) IronButt Association, 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Miller Subject: Re: PC800: FOR SALE (Appreciating in Value)? To: PC800 Wow, if these things are worth more than they cost new, I'll be glad to sell my '97 with 5k miles. Not that I'm wanting to get rid of it, but I'm always willing to buy a new vehicle, ride it for a year, and then make a profit. Any takers? Tony Miller --- Doug wrote: > A friend of mine has asked me to post this on the > list..His wife, now proud owner of 98 PC has chosen > to go for a trike... > > 1998 PC 800... > Rifle Windshield 3/1 CB/AM/FM Radio Third > brake lights Fog Lights > The beautiful Red in color 5500 miles Paducah > Ky > $6,900 obo 270-442-1835, (leave message) > > you can contact them direct or e