********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:34:49 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Doug CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Fit to be tied. <3.0.6.32.19990129161111.0080fcf0@mail.vci.net> <3.0.6.32.19990130090337.008216d0@mail.vci.net> Hi Doug, Doug wrote: > i bought a couple of those seat belt shoulder strap > covers,,about 6-8" lond and close with velcro..the kind that are suppose to > slide up and keep the strap from stangling you ..LOL > they work well also.. Thanks for that idea; we've got some of those for our cars - sheepskin covered ones - that would be good and soft for the plastic on the PC. > Hey, we're just full of good ideas...or is that, just full of it.. Probably a little of both... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Fw: PC800: changing fork oil Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:33:59 -0000 ---------- > From: Job, Sussex > To: Bill Jackman > Subject: Re: PC800: changing fork oil > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:31 AM > > Hi Bill, > > Below is an Email which Chuck kindly sent me. > Hope it answers your questions. > > Job > Sussex Coast > > ---------- > > From: Chuck Chiodini > > To: pcsg@mistral.co.uk > > Subject: Re: PC800: changing fork oil > > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 1:48 AM > > > > Job: > > I always do it when replacing leaking seals (you have to) and > > recommend that it gets changed every time you replace your brake fluid > > and rear drive oil, usually every other year or 24,000 miles or so. > > Remember that the forks slide a lot and the teflon coating on the > > bushings wear and contaminate the oil. I've seen some really nasty stuff > > come out of bikes. Last PC I worked on, the guy swore that I put some > > kind of "high speed racing" springs in his front end because it worked > > so well. All I did was change the oil and seals. Lots of guys on the > > list recommend the after-market springs by Progressive Suspension, might > > be worth a try for $60. The stock Honda springs are progressive wound > > design and as long as they're within the wear limits in the service > > manual, they should be fine. > > > > Ride like your life depends on it! > > Chuck > > > ---------- > > From: Bill Jackman > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: Re: PC800: changing fork oil > > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:34 AM > > > > What is the going rate for "true" PC fork seals? Also, speaking of > "cheapos" > > and PVC, on an 89 NT650 Hawk I had one of the cycle magazines did a > > "performance upgrade" article. A part of that article compared changing > the > > stock fork springs out for progressive springs, (in type only, I dont > > remember if they were actual Progressive brand), and simply adding a > clean, > > chamfered/deburred piece of PVC on top of the stock springs to give them > a > > little more tension. As I recall the difference in performance between > the > > two options was almost unnoticeable to the average test rider, with the > > obvious BIG price difference. They were very specific about the length of > > the PVC insert, down to the mm. I have often wondered if the same trick > > might work on the PC, knowing the close lineage of the two bikes. > > Bill Jackman > > 89~23k > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chuck Chiodini > > To: dsigsbee@memphis.edu ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > > > Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 6:50 PM > > Subject: Re: PC800: changing fork oil > > > > > > >David and fellow listers: > > > > >surface which will in turn, ruin the seals and cause leaks. Instead buy > > >a length of 2" PVC pipe which makes a perfect 41mm seal driver and save > > >yourself $194 per fork tube! > > > I also have had excellent results using BelRay 15wt. fork oil as > > >it stiffens up the front end just enough. Be sure you put the springs in > > >with the tighter coils facing downward. > > > Having read the excellent directions in the archives, I would > > >recommend doing it the "hard way" as per the factory service manual and > > >remove the front fairing (15 minutes of work). The peace of mind knowing > > >that all six pinch bolts are properly torqued are worth the extra time, > > >at least to me! > > > For you "cheapos" out there (me too!) Harley Davidson fork seals > > >for the Road King are the same size as the PC's (41mm) made by the same > > >company and cost $4.50 each. It's also fun to tell the "Harley crowd" > > >that our bikes share the same forks! > > > > > >Ride like your life depends on it! > > >Chuck Chiodini in Fayetteville, NC > > >89 PC "Scooter" > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rtb@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:09:01 EST To: HSTA@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: FS Hein Gericke Concord Boots Hein Gericke Concord Boots, mens size 10. Black leather, brand new condition. Only worn 4 times. Catalog price $127.99. Will sell for $95 including shipping. Ron B 716/381-3841 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 15:27:32 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:11:27 -0600 Subject: PC800: Rider Magazine So I was thumbing through my Rider mag when I comes across a article on the North Shore of Minnesota. Cool, I've done that trip more then a couple of times, nice ride, looking forward to the read. I look at the pictures and guess what I see. Yep, a black PC. Look at the author and photographer name and... hey wait a minute that name looks familiar. Fess up Rick Corwine Roger Ries Chaska, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:29:59 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: drankin@interlog.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) David, Francois' suggestion of calling Honda America Customer Service for a list of dealers with PC800's in stock is a good one. I'm in Central New York State, the Finger Lakes region, so if anyone in this part of the state (Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton area) has something of interest you want checked out I'd be happy to do it and report back to you. If you need help with the final delivery let me know also. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: >At 7:39 PM -0500 1/31/99, David Rankin wrote: > >>If anyone knows of any year PC800 for sale in the Ontario, Canada >or >>northern New York State area, please email quickly. > >Welcome to the list David. > >I am in Ottawa, as is Elton Hammond of this list. There are also a >few >members from upper state New York. If you want a new PC800, they >may still >be available at about $6500US (or less) brand new for a leftover >model. >If you contact Honda America Customer Service they can tell you >which >dealers in the area have one in stock. Both Elton and I imported >our >bikes. (I have a 95 and he has a 97) > >Are you in Toronto? I noticed Interlog is part of your e-mail >address, and >they are an ISP in Toronto. > >I hope you enjoy this list. > >fsl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:56:02 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: PC800 Rider CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 PC800 Rider wrote: > > David, > Francois' suggestion of calling Honda America Customer Service for > a list of dealers with PC800's in stock is a good one. I'm in > Central New York State, the Finger Lakes region, so if anyone in > this part of the state (Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton area) has > something of interest you want checked out I'd be happy to do it > and report back to you. If you need help with the final delivery > let me know also. > > Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 So Tim, How was the Cleveland show, anything different than the other shows? Did you run into any other members of the list? Thomas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Heated gloves Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:02:34 -0800 I wired switches into my heated gloves over the weekend (one switch per glove) :-). I thought about using an LED but 1.5V (D battery) will not drive one. I looked over all the switches and settled on a slide switch (easy to tell if it is "on" or "off"). This morning (rather cold), I just switched both gloves on and rode off to work :-). Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, spain@ugsolutions.com Subject: RE: PC800: Heated gloves Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:03:47 -0800 The average red LED requires a forward voltage of 1.7v to illuminate. You could use 3.0v (2 AA, C or D batteries) and a 68 ohm 1/4 watt resistor in seriese with the LED for proper drive. The yellow and green LEDs require a forward voltage of 2.1v and the blue LEDs require 3.5v. Most LEDs are specified for maximum current draw of 20ma (0.020 amp). The high brightness LEDs may require reducing the resistance value somewhat as they are designed for higher current draw. The math for calculating the resistance value is: ( Vs - Vled) Rs = -------------- Iled Where: Rs = Series resistance value Vs = Applied voltage Vled = Required forward voltage of LED Iled = Maximum current draw of LED The following may be useful for those "do-it-yourself" types to hook LED indicators to the PC (assuming an average voltage of 13.5v and maximum current draw of 20ma): LED Seriese Resistance ------------------------------ Red 680 ohm 1/4watt Orange 680 ohm 1/4watt Yellow 620 ohm 1/4watt Green 620 ohm 1/4watt Blue 560 ohm 1/4watt A safety factor has been included in the resistor values to allow for the higher voltage during battery charging (especially just after starting the engine). If you want the LED to be dimmer, then increase the resistance value as necessary to achieve the desired brightness. Note: a brightness value that is pleasing at night may not be visable during the day, and what is visable during the day may be obnoxious at night. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: Spain, Harrison[SMTP:spain@ugsolutions.com] > Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:02 AM > To: 'PC800 Mailing List' > Subject: RE: PC800: Heated gloves > > I wired switches into my heated gloves over the weekend (one switch per > glove) :-). I thought about using an LED but 1.5V (D battery) will not > drive one. I looked over all the switches and settled on a slide switch > (easy to tell if it is "on" or "off"). > > This morning (rather cold), I just switched both gloves on and rode off to > work :-). > > Harrison > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:10:14 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ring of Fire All the talk about lights and LED's on the PC made me wonder the following. Has anyone put either the Kuryakyn Ring of Fire (will it fit?) on a PC (obviously 96 or older) or any of the several other brands out there (that do not have the nice chrome cover)? What color did you use (to accent your colored PC)? Did you use a switch? TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:00:47 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A short ride I went for a short ride Sunday on the PC. Had not taken the battery out or bought the necessary charger yet, but she cranked just fine inside my garage at 40 degrees. Did not want to run though. I had not run the engine since November and it took a bit of on and off cranking to get her to fire. Then when she fired it would die several times before it would finally run. Normal, I would imagine after sitting so long. She then took a considerable amount of time to warm up to where it would rev up when I twisted the throttle so that I could pull out of my driveway. Not a happy camper (the PC that is). I would imagine that part of it was the heavy dose of gas preservative that I put in as winter set in. Some of it must have settled. Once it was ready, it ran without a hitch for the hour or so I was gone The roads up here are pretty bad at the corners with plenty of dust, sand and dirt from winter, piled up on them, so it was slow going. It was sure nice to get out again though. And seeing the smiles and people going, oh my God, he is out on a motorcycle in this weather. It weren't too bad. About 40 and partly cloudy. The hardest part is getting comfortable riding again. I hit a deer, with my car, about 10 years ago, at night. And it took a good three years before I was not paranoid driving at night, seeing deer in every shadow. Then last September, I hit a deer with the Wing and crashed. Now those shadows are back. I guess all I can do is keep riding and work out the ghosts in my mind, but it sure is taking a lot of the fun out of it. Count yourself very lucky if you have not had an accident on a bike. It can be troubling. Lets be careful out there. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:06:13 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Coppola" To: "PC800 listserver" , "Ed Roberts" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 search Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:10:16 -0500 There are at least 2 in Rochester, one at Cycle Stop, and one in Spencerport at Hollink Honda... just leave one for me! I just have to wait for the tax return, then I'll be a proud PC owner, too! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ed Roberts To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: drankin@interlog.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: PC800: PC800 search >Hi David, >You might try Chenango Imports in Whitesboro (Utica) New York. Last year >when I was there, they had a new one and also a used one I think. Sorry >I don't have the number off hand. Like Francois says, Honda America >Customer Service would know for sure, and save a lot of searching. >Good luck, >Ed Roberts >Hickory, Pa. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by trout.brandywine.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58341U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:42:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gunship@90.0.0.1 To: Subject: RE: RE: PC800: Heated gloves Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:32 -0500 There was a response earlier concerning Widder gloves. According to their web site, the only difference between wearing them with or without a vest is the switch that is used sans vest. I have used the gloves for twp years here in PA and ride all year without long johns most of the time. The extra heat from the gloves apparently is used by my body to warm the rest of it. I think that a vest might be in my future if I feel the need for longies. While on the subject of elecrics; I was going to get around to installing 4 way flashers whenever I had the ambition to read the shop manual. Since the instructions were posted here not long ago I wasn't able to put it off any longer. It was even easier than I expected and is one of the best safety devices you can install (other than eyes in the back of your head ;). I was a motorcycle mechanic in a shop for a time, but I still pick up interesting tidbits here. IF YOU AIN'T SPECTRE...! Rich Silva -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:46:55 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: PC800 search To: Wanderer@rochester.rr.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, vespaed@dp.net From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Wanderer@rochester.rr.com writes: >There are at least 2 in Rochester, one at Cycle Stop, and one in >Spencerport >at Hollink Honda... just leave one for me! I just have to wait >for the tax >return, then I'll be a proud PC owner, too! Sounds like we might have the makings of a Pacific Coast Rally in Central New York:-) Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:49:37 -0700 Tommy, Thanks for the small ride update. I also got out for a short ride on Saturday on the PC. Here in SLC, UT it was also about 40 degrees with mostly clouds. The bike started right up with the choke on and ran great. The roads were fairly decent here despite the fact we have had on and off small snow storms for the past few weeks. Anytime I can go for a ride on Jan. 30, around here, without being totally bundled up, I will take it. Sorry to hear about the misadventures with the deer. I once had a deer hit me! I was in a cage coming back from Park City and saw some deer crossing by an overpass ahead. I had slowed almost to a stop as I could see other deer on the side of the road still to cross. I guess one just could not take it anymore and had to bolt. She ran right into my passenger side door, window, RF fender & windshield/side window pillar, bounced off and trotted away no worse off. I too still see some shadows. Bill Jackman 89~23k -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: A short ride >I went for a short ride Sunday on the PC. Had not taken the battery out > >She then took a considerable amount of time to warm up to where it would > >The roads up here are pretty bad at the corners with plenty of dust, > >The hardest part is getting comfortable riding again. I hit a deer, > >Lets be careful out there. > >TommyTeal >-- >93SE (Teal, You Think?) >95Hannigan >95ACE (got to go) >97Pacific Coast >98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) >GWTA #6871 >GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2) with SMTP id OAA13259; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:32:33 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:32:18 -0800 To: Richard Proctor , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Korbel Subject: Re: other colours, was Re: PC800: A Blue'n <511300AD379FD111A5B200A024F02CCA6FB3C9@IXEXCHSRVR> Over the Christmas I have spent 2 weeks in Paris. I saw 2ea silver PC800 and after seeing 10ea pearl whites I stopped counting. I haven't seen single one red, black, or the 1990 apple red one. On the side note, I was amazed by thousands and thousands motorcyclists (from 50cc to Gold Wings) in all kinds of weather, rain, etc., and really aggressive way of riding. Only causality I saw was a cop on BMW R1100, who was knocked down by car, it was the cage driver's fault; cop had broken leg but otherwise was ok. Anyway, beautiful city . . . George +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 10:00 PM 1/30/99 +1200, Richard Proctor wrote: >I test rode a silver 1991 model here in NZ. I didn't want it. Too >expensive.Other colours > >Richard Proctor >New Zealand > >>Lohan, >> >>The list member in New Zeland has one, I think. >> >>Lohan Johnson wrote: >>> >>> I'm not seeing any silver ones on the web either save for one in Hong >>> Kong. Anyone got a color apart from red, white and black? >>> >>> Lohan >>> > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:14:19 -0400 To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider), Wanderer@rochester.rr.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re(2): PC800: PC800 search Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, vespaed@dp.net At 4:46 PM -0500 2/1/99, PC800 Rider wrote: > >Sounds like we might have the makings of a Pacific Coast Rally in >Central New York:-) > >Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > Count me in! I started up my bike today, and drove it around the driveway a few times. I am definitely getting very anxious for spring! fsl ride safe, if you can ride at all..... (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:36:46 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: BJ CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride BJ wrote: > > Tommy, > anymore and had to bolt. She ran right into my passenger side door, window, > RF fender & windshield/side window pillar, bounced off and trotted away no > worse off. I too still see some shadows. > Bill Jackman > 89~23k No worse off for her, but what about the cage? Glad to here some of us northerners can get out so we don't have to just sit here and read all about our southern brethren out cruisin up and down the roads. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 95ACE 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: "Thomas Ongstad" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:21:58 -0700 The cage did take some damage. Windshield - ok, RF fender - large (chest) dent behind wheel, passenger window - exploded, passenger - scared nearly to death, but ok as aftermarket window tint film held about 95% of glass, RT rearview mirror - gone (did not have the PC's cable even though it was a Honda). The insurance company had to treat it as comprehensive damage, since the deer clearly HIT ME, (no damage at all on to anything forward of the wheel.) so there was not even any deductible payment to take care of. They tried to make it into collision because there was so much damage, but I stuck to my story and the damage backed it up. Bill Jackman 89PC ~23k -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride >BJ wrote: >> >> Tommy, > >> anymore and had to bolt. She ran right into my passenger side door, window, >> RF fender & windshield/side window pillar, bounced off and trotted away no >> worse off. I too still see some shadows. >> Bill Jackman >> 89~23k > >No worse off for her, but what about the cage? > >Glad to here some of us northerners can get out so we don't have to just >sit here and read all about our southern brethren out cruisin up and >down the roads. > >TommyTeal >-- >93SE (Teal, ya hunh) >95Hannigan >95ACE >97Pacific Coast (oh baby) >98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) >GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Control panel Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:15:19 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi all, Looking for a source for a nice blank control panel, similar to the ones = I've seen on Goldwings. I was thinking about finding a blank black = plastic plate, but the more "stock" looking, the better. I'm looking = for a sharp-looking place to mount switches for the grip heaters, hazard = flasher, driving lights, etc. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:22:36 -0900 From: jgoula To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride Thomas Ongstad wrote: > Glad to here some of us northerners can get out so we don't have to just > sit here and read all about our southern brethren out cruisin up and > down the roads. It was -35° F at my place this morning. I think it's time I send Vinnie and Guido on a trip down south with their favorite baseball bats.... >:-{ -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W The advantage of time and place in all practical actions is half a victory; which being lost is irrecoverable. Sir Francis Drake --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:18:11 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up in = the morning. I've tried rolling in back and forth a couple of feet, = waiting until the engine slowed enough that I could take the choke off = and run it at low idle, and starting it in gear, then kicking it into = neutral. I leave it in neutral so I can put on my = helmet/gloves/shades/coat while it's warming, and I can't seem to get it = into first smoothly. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:38:51 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first "Tim J. Clevenger" wrote: > > My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up in the morning. I've tried rolling in back and forth a couple of feet... Tim, the clunking is fairly normal for the PC, but let me ask you, when you roll it back and forth, do you do it with the bike in first gear and the clutch pulled in? Otherwise there is no connection between the rear tire and the clutch, so the initial friction stays in place. What grade of oil are you using, is it fresh, is it synthetic? and last, have you bled your clutch hydraulics recently? Any or all of these things might help. Good luck. -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W The advantage of time and place in all practical actions is half a victory; which being lost is irrecoverable. Sir Francis Drake --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57782U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:15:08 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:01:45 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: TClevenger@paypros.com, "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Hey Tim, My PC always "clunks" when I go from neutral to first in the morning. I haven't really worried about it......... James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up > in the morning. I've tried rolling in back and forth a couple of > feet, waiting until the engine slowed enough that I could take the > choke off and run it at low idle, and starting it in gear, then > kicking it into neutral. I leave it in neutral so I can put on my > helmet/gloves/shades/coat while it's warming, and I can't seem to get > it into first smoothly. > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: PC800 for sale Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:28:00 -0500 A local Honda shop has this bike on the floor: 90 PC800 2,800 miles Kenwood Radio Showroom condition $4,500 (negotiable, IMO) I have not ridden the bike or even heard it run but it looks absolutely showroom new. Anyone interested can contact: Jim's Motorcycle Sales Kingsport, Tennessee (423) 247-1211 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:39:21 -0500 To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" From: The Broekings Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Mine "clunks" too. My guess it wuld "clunk" less if it were not choked and running a bit higher RPM when I engage it, but I usually dont push the choke in for about a block. I have noticed the clunk in the colder weather more than in the summer as I usually have the choke pushed in as I start out for my am commute in the summer and rpm are about 1000. At 07:01 PM 2/1/99 Monday, geist, james wrote: >Hey Tim, >My PC always "clunks" when I go from neutral to first in the morning. I >haven't really worried about it......... >James >Lubbock, Tx. >'90 PC > > >Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > >> My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up >> in the morning. I've tried rolling in back and forth a couple of >> feet, waiting until the engine slowed enough that I could take the >> choke off and run it at low idle, and starting it in gear, then >> kicking it into neutral. I leave it in neutral so I can put on my >> helmet/gloves/shades/coat while it's warming, and I can't seem to get >> it into first smoothly. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tim Clevenger >> '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >> a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Bob Broeking in Springfield,VA... http://WhiteSpider.Aawsom.net "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face of the Eiger, July 19th, 1936... broeking@erols.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:01:44 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Scudder, PCrdr, GBTTrdr, GHrscu" <97PC800@bizgroup.net> To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Ahhhh, Finally a ride (X3)! Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:59:05 -0500 Howdy Listers, Yesterday I "un-stored" the PC, checked everything out and went for a nice ride. It was pretty cold at 8:00am as I headed for my Sunday morning gathering of cycle enthusiasts, but the Baker Air Wings helped considerably and there was no ice or snow at all to contend with. Alas, I was the only one not "with cage" at the gathering, so after coffee and conversation I rode off and had a good lone ride. It warmed up to 40 F, was nice and sunny and a welcome relief to be on the bike again. After returning home, temptation set in and I "un-stored" the Suzuki Savage and the Honda GB500TT as well. What a joy! I was properly dressed for the weather conditions, had fun, practiced my riding skills ( on 3 very different bikes, no less ) and never did get cold after that early-morning scoot to the coffee house. Love the PC, Love the GB, can take it or leave it with the Savage (wife's bike) and I can't wait for spring! Safe riding all, Steve Scudder 97PC800@bizgroup.net Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA '97 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Red Therapy" '97 Suzuki Savage LS650 "Thumper" '90 Honda GB500 Tourist Trophy "Black Beauty" '88 NGA Racing Greyhound* "Rimfire Jones"(retired) '92 NGA Racing Greyhound* "L. Dee's Gazelle"(retired) Make a Fast Friend...Adopt a Greyhound! * 0-40 MPH in 5 strides. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:07:26 -0500 The Kelly Blue Book http://www.kbb.com/index.html now lists motorcycles. = These are the average retail prices they show for the PC800... '89 - $3285 '90 - $3990 '94 - $4910 '95 - $5495 '96 - $6500 '97 - $7020 '98 - $7800 They correctly omitted model years '91, '92 and '93 and got the = description right most of the time but did list the '98 model as having = four cylinders - what a revoltin' development that is to quote Jackie = Gleason. Honest, I don't make this stuff up. If these prices were = accurate, there would be a number of buyers of closeout 97s and 98s who = could turn a tidy profit! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:10:48 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book Jim Randall wrote: > They correctly omitted model years '91, '92 and '93 and got the description right most of the time but did list the '98 model as having four cylinders - what a revoltin' development that is to quote Jackie Gleason. Honest, I don't make this stuff up. If these prices were accurate, there would be a number of buyers of closeout 97s and 98s who could turn a tidy profit! > Makes you wonder how many times you've trusted the KBB in previous purchases, doesn't it? :) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:20:58 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel Tim, Markland makes a very nice stackable handlebar switch that I used on my Wing. Didn't like the great big chrome switch assembly's for use over the front brake resevoir and Markland had a nice small black box that attachs to the handlebars. It comes with two switches but more can be added (up to six switches). I liked them because they are a flat black with small lighted (green) switches that work very well. Cannot find a web site for Markland (com'n guys, lets get with the program), but they are viewable at a dealer in their Markland catalogs. They should be a adaptable to the PC. Just be sure with any switches that you power through a relay, not through the switch to the accessory. TommyTeal Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > > Hi all, > > Looking for a source for a nice blank control panel, similar to the ones I've seen on Goldwings. I was thinking about finding a blank black plastic plate, but the more "stock" looking, the better. I'm looking for a sharp-looking place to mount switches for the grip heaters, hazard flasher, driving lights, etc. > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 95ACE 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:32:07 -0800 From: Bob Ronecker To: jgoula CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride jgoula wrote: > Thomas Ongstad wrote: > > Glad to here some of us northerners can get out so we don't have to just > > sit here and read all about our southern brethren out cruisin up and > > down the roads. > > It was -35° F at my place this morning. I think it's time I send Vinnie > and Guido on a trip down south with their favorite baseball bats.... >:-{ > > -- > Juan > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W > The advantage of time and place in all practical actions > is half a victory; which being lost is irrecoverable. > Sir Francis Drake > --------------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. I have a solution for Juan and all the other far north listers !! Last week the Pope was in St Louis for a few days and we had near record temps. I was able to ride to work with a high of 67 degrees. The day after he left town it was back to 30 degrees and rainy/sleet stuff again. So invite the Pope to your neck of the woods and get ready for some good riding weather !! Bob Ronecker 94PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:30:00 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Bob Ronecker CC: jgoula , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A short ride Bob Ronecker wrote: > I have a solution for Juan and all the other far north listers !! > Last week the Pope was in St Louis for a few days and we had near record > temps. I was able to ride to work with a high of 67 degrees. The day after > he left town it was back to 30 degrees and rainy/sleet stuff again. > So invite the Pope to your neck of the woods and get ready for some good > riding weather !! > Bob Ronecker > 94PC Is that why it always looks nice at Vatican City? I don't think he would come on my invitation though, I think they are still a little pissed at us Lutherans. ;-) (Like he would come on my invitation anyway. :-0 TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 95ACE 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RickCorwn@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:30:37 EST To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rider Magazine Guilty as charged, keep an eye out for that black PC in future issues I'm planning on doing a couple more pieces for them this year. Rick Corwine Chanhassen, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom and/or Anita Humphrey" To: "'The Broekings'" , Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:09:29 -0800 Importance: Normal To minimize that clunk into first gear, try using Mobil 1 synthetic oil. It is available in 10w-40 and 15w-50 formulation, so choose whichever is best for your climate. I believe it reduced the "CLUNK" in each of my two '94 PC800's and my 1983 Honda Shadow 500. FWIW YMMV Tom in Clayton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by trout.brandywine.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58341U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:41:50 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gunship@brandywine.net (Richard Silva) To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:42:07 -0500 Importance: Normal The "clunk" is caused by the oil being cold and note completly releasing the clutch disks. This is why it doesn't do it when it warms up. The "clunk" itself is the gears being loaded by the power transmitted through the clutch, since it didn't disengage completly. IF YOU AIN'T SPECTRE... Rich Silva -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Tom and/or Anita Humphrey Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 10:09 PM To: 'The Broekings'; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first To minimize that clunk into first gear, try using Mobil 1 synthetic oil. It is available in 10w-40 and 15w-50 formulation, so choose whichever is best for your climate. I believe it reduced the "CLUNK" in each of my two '94 PC800's and my 1983 Honda Shadow 500. FWIW YMMV Tom in Clayton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2E2S6XW; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:49:16 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: swift24@juno.com, pca420@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:48:16 -0700 Subject: PC800: A WING 'n A FLARE WHITE WONG WINGER My Wong Wing is bright, As it shines thru the night. It was easy to install, (*) And cheaper than the mall. The white color's a match, And no problem with lightbar patch. It's wired only for braking, An easy "undertaking." (**) (*) I pointed my biker-budd (and his tools) in the Ghost's direction, made him an offer he couldn't refuse (***), and presto -- the Wong Wing was on in a snap. Less than an hour to mark (blue crayon, which easily washed off), drill and screw. *IMAGINE* The wiring was not difficult either ... thanks to all you Listers' precise directions. We used solderless connectors and good electrical tape in lieu of soldering. Not my preference, but good (read "free") help is hard to find. *GRIN* We took the back seat off (4 bolts), leaving backrest and luggage rack attached. As Harrison and Michael noted, it was NOT necessary to remove the ducktail. A looooong "Philips" (singularly apropos, huh?!) screwdriver turned the trick. (**) Michael L., that one's for you. *HEH HEH* (***) Dinner offer. But YOU knew that! Ann '89 PC-AZ Just Ghostwing-A-Wong for the Wride Mon. 2.1.99 19:40 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2E2S6V5; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:49:16 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: swift24@juno.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:45:12 -0700 Subject: PC800: JUICELESS GHOST GHOST SEEKS LISTER WISDOM 1) Original battery lasted about 7 years. 2) Installed Pro Sport battery July 1996. Came with 1 yr. warranty and cost $75 including installation from indipendent shop. (This shop is out of business. *SIGH*) 3) Installed Yuasa battery April 1998. Came with 6 mos. warranty and cost $75 including (inept) installation from Honda dealer service dept. 4) Since Sat. Jan. 23rd, I've not been able to start the Ghost without jumping it from a car. Once jumped, she starts instantly and keeps running all day thru numerous turn-offs and turn-ons. But will not start on her own the morning after the night before. Know the feeling? *WINK* 5) I've put it on the trickle charger and that doesn't seem to help. She still won't start without a jump. (Don't go THERE!) 6) She gets a good run at least once a week. i.e. Sat. Jan. 23rd, I did a 358 mile loop thru southern Arizona. A good stretch of the rubber. I exercised her yesterday, too! 7) QUESTIONS: a) Does this sound like a battery problem? i.e. A dry cell in a sealed battery? b) Should I prepare to have my "just-in-case, stator-in-stock" installed? c) What kind of testing can be done and what precisely am I looking for? ...so I don't look totally ignorant (even tho I am). d) What's the concensus? 8) Please reply off-list (as I'm still a Stealth Lister). THANKS!!!!!! Ann '89 PC Juiceless In Arizona Mon. 2.1.99 19:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:10:57 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: pc 800 list , HSTA List , Ron Vance , "Thomas \"Cecil\" Dennis" Subject: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== ICQ #4172815 Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy BikePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4172815 I have reloaded ICQ!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:12:32 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: pc 800 list , HSTA List Subject: PC800: wanna win a harley? Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== ICQ #4172815 Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy BikePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4172815 I have reloaded ICQ!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:39:41 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Scudder, PCrdr, GBTTrdr, GHrscu" <97PC800@bizgroup.net> To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Off list for a while. Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:37:31 -0500 I'll be off-list until next week as my Mother has just passed away. Steve Scudder 97PC800@bizgroup.net Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA '97 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Red Therapy" '97 Suzuki Savage LS650 "Thumper" '90 Honda GB500 Tourist Trophy "Black Beauty" '88 NGA Racing Greyhound* "Rimfire Jones"(retired) '92 NGA Racing Greyhound* "L. Dee's Gazelle"(retired) Make a Fast Friend...Adopt a Greyhound! * 0-40 MPH in 5 strides. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 2 Feb 1999 05:59:26 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 06:02:20 -0500 From: David P Hart Subject: Re: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book To: Jim Randall Cc: "'PC800 List'" I'm glad the auditors office didn't use that one for "average" on my '94, but it makes me feel better on what I paid for it! I'm not sure what they used for tax purposes, but I wasn't about to argue. Thanks for the link. Jim Randall wrote: > > The Kelly Blue Book http://www.kbb.com/index.html now lists motorcycles. These are the average retail prices they show for the PC800... > > '89 - $3285 > '90 - $3990 > '94 - $4910 > '95 - $5495 > '96 - $6500 > '97 - $7020 > '98 - $7800 > > They correctly omitted model years '91, '92 and '93 and got the description right most of the time but did list the '98 model as having four cylinders - what a revoltin' development that is to quote Jackie Gleason. Honest, I don't make this stuff up. If these prices were accurate, there would be a number of buyers of closeout 97s and 98s who could turn a tidy profit! > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA02161; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:39:05 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: "'Joe Beresford'" , pc 800 list , HSTA List Subject: RE: PC800: wanna win a harley? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:33:04 -0500 Sorry, but we all don't live in Texas. ~Harvey Sattin, Brookline, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Beresford [SMTP:cableguy@one.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 1:13 AM > To: pc 800 list; HSTA List > Subject: PC800: wanna win a harley? > > Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe > -- > ==Life is short---Go ride!== ICQ #4172815 > Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! > HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy > BikePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm > Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: > 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net > (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) > ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4172815 I have reloaded ICQ!!! > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lohan Johnson To: pc 800 list Subject: RE: PC800: wanna win a harley? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:41:52 +0200 Nor the US, for that matter! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Sattin, Harvey [mailto:h.sattin@neccsd.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 2:33 PM To: 'Joe Beresford'; pc 800 list; HSTA List Subject: RE: PC800: wanna win a harley? Sorry, but we all don't live in Texas. ~Harvey Sattin, Brookline, MA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:46:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Broeking Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first To: Tom and/or Anita Humphrey , "'The Broekings'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Yep, thats what is in it! Bob ---Tom and/or Anita Humphrey wrote: > > To minimize that clunk into first gear, try using Mobil 1 synthetic oil. It> is available in 10w-40 and 15w-50 formulation, so choose whichever is best > for your climate == Bob Broeking in Springfield,VA http://whitespider.aawsom.net "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face of the Eiger, July 19th, 1936... bob_broeking@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:52:20 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel To: TClevenger@paypros.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) TClevenger@paypros.com writes: >Hi all, > >Looking for a source for a nice blank control panel, similar to >the ones I've seen on Goldwings. I was thinking about finding a >blank black plastic plate, but the more "stock" looking, the >better. I'm looking for a sharp-looking place to mount switches >for the grip heaters, hazard flasher, driving lights, etc. > >Regards, > >Tim Clevenger >'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") I mounted my 4-way flasher switch inside the left fairing pocket on the back wall. I wanted a water tight location out of sight since it is always active just ike the one on your car. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 15:32:36 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:12:55 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Rider Magazine If anybody is interested in the article and can't get Rider I can send you a copy. It's a good read. Just let me know. Roger R Chaska, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:19:17 -0500 From: cen13504 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: FS Hein Gericke Concord Boots boundary="------------E95CF0E22A975CE6A3EADBC7" --------------E95CF0E22A975CE6A3EADBC7 Boots... Does anyone have a pair of black riding boots in a size 7 1/2 or 8 that they or their child has out grown. No small feet jokes please.. I can not justify the cost of a new pair, but an experienced pair might help keep my PC upright. The gear that is available in Europe makes me drool. I could have spent a years salary on my last trip to Germany on stuff; boots, gloves, helmets, jackets and pants. KLW --------------E95CF0E22A975CE6A3EADBC7 name="KLW.vcf" Content-Description: Card for cen13504 filename="KLW.vcf" begin:vcard n:; tel;work:1-800-264-6757 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale Super V-2000 end:vcard --------------E95CF0E22A975CE6A3EADBC7-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:31:55 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Maint/Repair Database HUNGRY for data!! Hello all!! As you know, we have a database of Pacific Coast repairs and maintenance on line at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ I hope the database is be handy for research into PC failure modes and people's preferred maintenance items and schedules. I have gotten quite a few submissions of maintenance logs, but NOWHERE NEAR everyone on the list. If you haven't submitted your repair or maintenance log, drop by the site, read the instructions, and send it in, it'll take 15 minutes. If you can't figure out my instructions, or have any questions, write me. If you don't have detailed records, that's fine! Use your shop invoices or your memory. Repair info is the most useful part of the database, maintenance is nice but not necessary. And mostly, we need to get as many people as possible contributing, for this to be a valuable resource. If you have your log on line already, don't hesitate to add to it any time you want. People with no repairs: it's important to hear from you too! Otherwise it will look like every PC800 requires repair. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA03110 for ; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:53:34 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: "'X PC 800 List'" Subject: PC800: Spring is near! Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:47:34 -0500 The groundhog failed to see his shadow today, so Spring is near! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:56:38 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:39:16 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: pc 800 list , HSTA List Subject: PC800: vacation hey I will be putting my email on vacation unsubbinbg from pc and postponing hsta after wed...so my email box wont get to full. I am going to try to access remotely so if you wann catch me in Florida...hollar or call my cell... see ya -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== ICQ #4172815 Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy BikePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4172815 I have reloaded ICQ!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:53:26 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Woo-hoo! I can take a profit on this one and go buy another new one! = ;-) Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") [Okay, maybe when she hits 250k I'll sell her.] ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall[SMTP:jrandall@tricon.net] Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:07 PM To: 'PC800 List' Subject: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book The Kelly Blue Book http://www.kbb.com/index.html now lists motorcycles. = These are the average retail prices they show for the PC800... '89 - $3285 '90 - $3990 '94 - $4910 '95 - $5495 '96 - $6500 '97 - $7020 '98 - $7800 They correctly omitted model years '91, '92 and '93 and got the = description right most of the time but did list the '98 model as having = four cylinders - what a revoltin' development that is to quote Jackie = Gleason. Honest, I don't make this stuff up. If these prices were = accurate, there would be a number of buyers of closeout 97s and 98s who = could turn a tidy profit! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:50:04 -0500 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel boundary="------------82755C87247FCDC8EC85E948" --------------82755C87247FCDC8EC85E948 Switch panels: How about using the right dash panel to mount the switches in. Or maybe a replacement panel to preserve the original. I very seldom open that panel unless it blows off. Just a thought. KLW --------------82755C87247FCDC8EC85E948 name="KLW.vcf" Content-Description: Card for cen13504 filename="KLW.vcf" begin:vcard n:; tel;work:1-800-264-6757 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale Super V-2000 end:vcard --------------82755C87247FCDC8EC85E948-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:05:45 -0400 To: "Sattin, Harvey" , "'X PC 800 List'" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Spring is near! At 10:47 AM -0500 2/2/99, Sattin, Harvey wrote: >The groundhog failed to see his shadow today, so Spring is near! Amazing...especially when you consider he was surrounded by hundreds of cameras, lights, flash equipment, etc........ But....I'm very anxious for spring. The sooner the better !! fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Control panel Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:08:06 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Are you referring to the door that covers the radiator filler? I'll = have to crack that open tonight to see if I can squeeze the switches in = and still clear the filler cap. Thanks. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cen13504[SMTP:KLW@centuryinter.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 6:50 AM To: pc list Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel <> Switch panels: How about using the right dash panel to mount the switches in. Or maybe a replacement panel to preserve the original. I very seldom open that panel unless it blows off. Just a thought. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:37:44 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Hi Tim, Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up in the morning. I've tried rolling in back and forth a couple of feet, waiting until the engine slowed enough that I could take the choke off and run it at low idle, and starting it in gear, then kicking it into neutral. I leave it in neutral so I can put on my helmet/gloves/shades/coat while it's warming, and I can't seem to get it into first smoothly. The magazines when reviewing the PC called the shifting "notchy". Mine has clunked into first every time since it was new. It's also "clunky" going into other gears - almost sounds stiff. It's the only "oddity" I've noticed about the PC. It's part of the reason I'm on my third shift lever; I feel like I have to step hard in order to make it shift (in fact I don't but the sound makes me think I do - I'm working hard to break the habit before I have to replace the shaft in the transmission that the shift lever is mounted on... I'm wearing it out too!). -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:48:52 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Joe Beresford CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Joe, Joe Beresford wrote: > Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:44:07 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Richard Silva CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Hi Rich, Richard Silva wrote: > The "clunk" is caused by the oil being cold and note completly releasing the > clutch disks. This is why it doesn't do it when it warms up. The "clunk" > itself is the gears being loaded by the power transmitted through the > clutch, since it didn't disengage completly. Mine clunks even when it is warm; always has. It's not quite as loud after it warms up but there isn't much difference... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'Leland C. Sheppard'" , Joe Beresford Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:14:19 -0800 Hey - 2 wheels is better than 4 wheels ANYDAY regardless of the label on the tank. I own many bikes and I appreciate them each for their own qualities -- from a PC to Ducati to Harley and many in between. If someone wants to enjoy their HD (or their PC) others shouldn't have their noses in the air about it!! Why be a brand snob?? -Grindle. -----Original Message----- From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: "Leland C. Sheppard" , "Joe Beresford" Cc: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:27:40 -0700 Ditto. Bill Jackman 89~23k -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? >> Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... >> http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 >> I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe > >A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd >own a Harley... > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... >"Black Beauty" >123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: "Jerri Grindle" , "'Leland C. Sheppard'" , "Joe Beresford" Cc: "Pacific Coast Owners" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:39:27 -0700 Not a brand snob, or obviously anything against vtwins, just a mechanical and a style preference. Bill Jackman 89~23k -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: 'Leland C. Sheppard' ; Joe Beresford Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? > >Hey - 2 wheels is better than 4 wheels ANYDAY regardless of the label on the >tank. >I own many bikes and I appreciate them each for their own qualities -- from >a PC to >Ducati to Harley and many in between. If someone wants to enjoy their HD >(or their PC) others shouldn't have their noses in the air about it!! Why >be a brand snob?? >-Grindle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > > A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling >before I'd > own a Harley... > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... > "Black Beauty" > 123,000 miles > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body >of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:57:04 -0800 (PST) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? To: Pacific Coast Owners But if you win the Harley, you could sell it and buy a new Honda or a lot of new equipment and riding apparel, or even pay off your mortgage! ---"Leland C. Sheppard" wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > Joe Beresford wrote: > > > Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > > http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > > I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe > > A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd > own a Harley... > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... > "Black Beauty" > 123,000 miles > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:57:10 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'BJ'" , "Leland C. Sheppard" , Joe Beresford Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:54:09 -0800 Aw, come one. You could win the Harley, Sell it, and buy two new PC800s ... one for riding to work and one for weekends. :-) Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 2/2/99 10:28 AM, BJ [SMTP:bjackman@united-funding.com] wrote: > Ditto. > Bill Jackman > 89~23k > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? > > > >> Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > >> http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > >> I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe > > > >A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd > >own a Harley... > > > >-- > >Leland > >'94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... > >"Black Beauty" > >123,000 miles > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'BJ'" , Jerri Grindle , "'Leland C. Sheppard'" , Joe Beresford Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:03:44 -0800 That's all fine and good to have a style and mechanical preference, but why is the "boo/hiss" necessary? ... I might add a slam of my own, however, I am personally against knocking anyones ride. The phrase "I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley." indicates a bigoted attitude that is reflective of the old school HD riders - which in turn is what turns us Jap bike owners off -- etc etc -- and the cycle continues. I personally prefer the crotch rockets for my main ride, however I still love my PC and commute on it daily rain or shine. Even though I never ride (nor do I care to ride) my HD, I still love her. She's a trailer queen with more trophies than miles and I enjoy the show bike world too. I respect anyones choice of mount and don't look down my nose at anyone unless they exhibit "an attitude" toward what I do or don't ride. (For example I notice a lot of BMWr riders have attitudes toward any non-BMW ride, just as a lot of HD and PC riders have attitudes toward rides of a different brand.) Lighten up, life is too short. -Grindle. -----Original Message----- From: BJ [SMTP:bjackman@united-funding.com] Not a brand snob, or obviously anything against vtwins, just a mechanical and a style preference. Bill Jackman 89~23k -----Original Message----- From: Jerri Grindle >Hey - 2 wheels is better than 4 wheels ANYDAY regardless of the label on the tank. I own many bikes and I appreciate them each for their own qualities -- from a PC to Ducati to Harley and many in between. If someone wants to enjoy their HD (or their PC) others shouldn't have their noses in the air about it. Why be a brand snob?? >-Grindle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > > A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling >before I'd > own a Harley... > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... > "Black Beauty" > 123,000 miles > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body >of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:10:41 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Jerri Grindle wrote: > I respect anyones choice of mount and don't look down my nose at anyone > unless they exhibit "an attitude" toward what I do or don't ride... Jerri, I respect (and agree with) your opinions but... > Lighten up, life is too short. I think you need to follow your own advice :) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:17:20 +0100 I love the 'Clunk!". On my previous XJ the box would 'Clank!' on cold days, but then the whole bike shook also. On the PC I hit first, I hear this great 'Clunk!', but the bike doesn't move. Shifting into other gears produces a nice 'clack' sound. Just touch the lever and 'clack' it's in third (or whatever). No shaking, just....clack..... Boy, I love this bike ! Emile http://fly.to/emile > My PC "clunks" when going from neutral into first when I start it up in the morning. I've tried rolling in back >The magazines when reviewing the PC called the shifting "notchy". Mine has clunked into first every time >since it was new. It's also "clunky" going into other gears - almost sounds stiff. It's the only "oddity" I've >noticed about the PC. It's part of the reason I'm on my third shift lever; I feel like I have to step hard in order >to make it shift (in fact I don't but the sound makes me think I do - I'm working hard to >break the habit before I have to replace the shaft in the transmission that the shift lever is mounted on... I'm >wearing it out too!). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:19:50 +0100 Gotta love those flame wars ! Offcourse nothing beats a twin ! ; ) Emile http://fly.to/emile >>>>>> Hey - 2 wheels is better than 4 wheels ANYDAY regardless of the label on the tank. I own many bikes and I appreciate them each for their own qualities -- from a PC to Ducati to Harley and many in between. If someone wants to enjoy their HD (or their PC) others shouldn't have their noses in the air about it!! Why be a brand snob?? -Grindle. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad Herndon" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:33:09 -0600 Subject: PC800: PC800 : T-11 @ Talimena Hey Boys & Girls, Any of you planning on making it to T-11 at Talimena, AR? The Arkansas HSTA is sponsoring. It is scheduled for April 23, 24 and 25th. If you've never been to Queen Wilhelmena State Park, you are in for a treat. You can pre-register for the event at their website http://www.alltel.net/~st1100/hsta/t-11.html (they have a form you can fill out, print and snail mail to them). Just an FYI. Hope to see some of you there. (It would be nice to see more than just my own PC!) Safe Riding! Brad Herndon, 98' PC800 Mesquite, TX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:42:11 -0500 From: Richard Stafford To: Brad Herndon CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 : T-11 @ Talimena Brad Herndon wrote: > > Hey Boys & Girls, > > Any of you planning on making it to T-11 at Talimena, AR? The Arkansas > HSTA > is sponsoring. It is scheduled for April 23, 24 and 25th. > > If you've never been to Queen Wilhelmena State Park, you are in for a > treat. > > You can pre-register for the event at their website > http://www.alltel.net/~st1100/hsta/t-11.html > (they have a form you can fill out, print and snail mail to them). > > Just an FYI. Hope to see some of you there. (It would be nice to see more > than just my own PC!) > > Safe Riding! > > Brad Herndon, 98' PC800 > Mesquite, TX > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Don't miss the Talahina Drive if you go. Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:03:29 -0500 From: cen13504 To: pc list Subject: PC800: strobes boundary="------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3" --------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 List Members: Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if it is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? Just curious klw --------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 name="KLW.vcf" Content-Description: Card for cen13504 filename="KLW.vcf" begin:vcard n:; tel;work:1-800-264-6757 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale Super V-2000 end:vcard --------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'cen13504'" , pc list Subject: RE: PC800: strobes Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:19:50 -0800 It's not legal in CA -- A friend had one on the back of his GW and the CHP required that he remove it. -----Original Message----- From: cen13504 [SMTP:KLW@centuryinter.net] List Members: Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if it is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? Just curious -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:27:41 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: cen13504 CC: pc list Subject: Re: PC800: strobes cen13504 wrote: > > List Members: > > Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if it > is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? > > Just curious > > klw Varies by State I would imagine. As far as Michigan, no. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2GZGNP6; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:04:32 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: KLW@centuryinter.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:01:42 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: strobes From: Dan Messaros Dear KLW, That is a new one on me, and I will check into that as far as Washington State regs read. I would think not, as the strobe light bar on my ranger car is very bright and blinding when you are close to it at night. Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA (Olympic National Park) 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter. 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:03:29 -0500 cen13504 writes: >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 > >List Members: > >Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if >it >is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? > >Just curious > >klw > >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 > name="KLW.vcf" >Content-Description: Card for cen13504 > filename="KLW.vcf" > >begin:vcard >n:; >tel;work:1-800-264-6757 >x-mozilla-html:FALSE >adr:;;;;;; >version:2.1 >email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net >note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or >comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second >Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The >Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale >Super V-2000 >end:vcard > >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3-- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:32:06 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:31:19 -0600 From: Mark Gilb To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things Hey there, boys & girls, Been a while since I've had anything to say. Bob had it right though, last Wednesday it was very nice for the pope's visit here. I got my PC out and rode to work and back (about 80 miles round trip). Seemed strange to be on a bike after 2 weeks of snow & ice but the PC fired right up (4 year old battery and all) and ran like a champ. Did have one post-ride problem, the dreaded gas smell. I went through the archives and the consensus seemed to be the vacuum petcock leaking. Is this hard and/or expensive to replace? I am wondering if the Sta-Bil may have caused a problem since I haven't had the problem before and don't run premium fuel in the bike. Or, since I have had zero repairs beyond normal wear with the bike, is it just my "turn"? I am also interested in hearing from anyone on the list who installed their own Utopia backrest. Was it difficult? Do you like the product? I am getting ready to order one and would like to get some opinions. Rumor has it that the groundhog didn't see his shadow today so let's hope for an early spring (tomorrow would be just about right for me). Riide Safe and Warm Mark Gilb 95 PC800 St. Louis, Mo. HSTA 8271RG / AMA 564927 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: , "cen13504" Cc: "pc list" Subject: Re: PC800: strobes Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:33:18 -0500 Hello KLW, Police officer from Florida here, you definitely can not mount a strobe on anything here unless it's on a wrecker used specifically to tow cars. As for other states, I do not have a clue what they would require. RAR -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Ongstad To: cen13504 Cc: pc list Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:36 PM Subject: Re: PC800: strobes >cen13504 wrote: >> >> List Members: >> >> Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if it >> is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? >> >> Just curious >> >> klw > >Varies by State I would imagine. As far as Michigan, no. > >TommyTeal >-- >93SE (Teal, You Think?) >95Hannigan >95ACE (got to go) >97Pacific Coast >98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) >GWTA #6871 >GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wrench's Ravings (long) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:52:36 PST Fellow coasters: DISCLAIMER: I feel that the Pacific Coast is one of the best, if not THE best, motorcycle I have ever owned. I do my own wrenching and would like to share the following personal observations with this esteemed group. My goal is to stimulate some thought from fellow owners, not an attempt to start any “flame wars” (fortunately, not a problem on this list). That said…Mechanical things on the Pacific Coast that make you go “Hmmmmmm”: 1. The majority of motorcycle riders know that battery access is critical to daily maintenance of their rides. Everything from jump starts, charging, addition of fluids (for “old fashioned batteries”) cleaning of terminals and winter storage. Why didn’t the designers add a cute little “access panel” like the one for the oil dipstick by the battery to make battery maintenance a more pleasant task than the chore it is? Hmmmmmm 2. The designers should have gone one step further and added a drain bolt to the lower fork legs (the boss is already cast there) and enlarged the panels under the handlebars just a bit to allow access to the fork caps. This would have allowed folks to change their fork oil without having to remove the front fairing (I know you can “cheat” and not do this step) and drop both forks. In my humble opinion, fork oil should be changed along with brake fluid and rear drive oil every 24,000 miles or two years. Most folks won’t attempt to change the fork fluid and wait until their seals give out because the task seems so daunting. Hmmmmm 3. While modifying my fuel system to accept a six-gallon auxiliary fuel tank, I discovered that the Pacific Coast has two different sizes of fuel lines. The outlet from the fuel tank, the inlet/outlet ports on the fuel pump and the lines leading to and from the “petcock” are all 5/16”. The inlet and outlet ports for the fuel filter are about 7/16”. Honda used the “high flow” filter from the 1988-1996 Gold Wing on the PC. You might think that Honda simply crammed the 5/16 hose over the 7/16 fuel filter ports (it can be done if you heat the fuel line in hot water) but NOOO, they used a “special” molded hose with a 5/16” opening on one end and the 7/16” opening on the other! I have never seen that done before, go figure! Since it is a ”Honda only” part, one side “special hose” costs $4.95 for about 2” of fuel line: I didn’t ask about the other side. What this means to the long distance traveler far from an authorized Honda dealer is that you won’t be able to replace your leaking fuel line from a generic bike shop, Wal-Mart or Pep Boys. Good for us the Honda lines are made from gray Tygon hose which is ozone resistant and withstands temperatures from –35 to + 165F and should last for quite some time. My solution, since I was “highly modifying “ the system anyway, was to buy a Purolator filter from Pep Boys with 5/16” ends ($9.95) and a package of three replacement elements ($4.95). Now I don’t need to worry about Honda specific essential mechanical/running gear. I don’t think the average rider needs to worry about this “design flaw” but it makes me go Hmmmmmm. 4. Ever wonder why Honda fitted the fuel filter UNDER the fuel pump so you have to remove the pump to change the filter? Understand that the fuel pump simply lifts off its rubber-mounting bracket but one has to wonder what the designer was thinking. Most people would agree that one needs to service one’s fuel filter far more frequently than the fuel pump. Hmmmmmmmm TIP: Instead of using “normal” hose clamps on motorcycles, try using the type designed for fuel injection systems. They cost the same and are designed for high-pressure fuel applications. Instead of a metal band with cut serrations to engage to worm gear tightening system, the F.I types have a smooth metal band and screw/nut tightening system. They won’t chew your hose apart and will never leak like the el cheapo worm type. We won’t even talk about the band/screw type and pressed spring steel type that come stock from the factory, they should be thrown in the trash at your first opportunity. Seeing only one bike on fire due to hose clamps will make a believer out of you too! The F.I clamps are found at any auto supply store like Pep Boys or Advance Auto. WARNING! SOAPBOX MODE ON: I view motorcycles as mechanical works of art and technology. It really aggravates me to see stupid designs for no apparently better reason than lack of thought on the machine as a whole rather than “pieces/parts”. It amuses and challenges me to improve a poor design, if possible. I hope this post stimulates some thinking among us and helps transform some “riders” into “motorcyclists”. If I may indulge one favor from the list in general, please do not clutter up the bandwidth with personal prejudices about particular makes/models of bikes. Too many other lists have been ruined by this kind of childish banter. Please be happy with what YOU ride and respect the other guy for riding something motorized with two wheels. Consider waving to and respecting anyone on two wheels from mopeds to Gold Wings, that’s what makes us “bikers” not the particular flavor we ride! SOAPBOX MODE OFF Ride like your life depends on it! Chuck in Fayetteville, NC 89 PC “Scooter” (and damn proud of her!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:56:41 -0500 From: Pat McNew To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: PC prices by year - Kelly Blue Book Jim Randall wrote: > > The Kelly Blue Book http://www.kbb.com/index.html now lists motorcycles. These are the average retail prices they show for the PC800... > > '89 - $3285 > '90 - $3990 > '94 - $4910 > '95 - $5495 > '96 - $6500 > '97 - $7020 > '98 - $7800 > > They correctly omitted model years '91, '92 and '93 and got the description right most of the time but did list the '98 model as having four cylinders - what a revoltin' development that is to quote Jackie Gleason. Honest, I don't make this stuff up. If these prices were accurate, there would be a number of buyers of closeout 97s and 98s who could turn a tidy profit! > > Jim Randall You know boys and girls, if we play our cards right we could wind up with $4000 bikes being sold for $12,000 just like Hardly Davidsons! -- Pat McNew Snellville, GA 1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose 6533 (S)miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: "Clunk" into first and oils Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:06:09 -0000 I use mineral oil as recommended in the Owners Manual. I don't have any 'Clunk' problems other than what is characteristic with most Honda motorcycles. After many problems using SF type oils in Motorcycles, several oil companies have recently introduced oils specifically to meet the needs of motorcycles. ie. the same oil formulated to work with engine, gearbox and wet clutch (unlike car engines). They are available as mineral, semi-synthetic or fully synthetic. Castrol do a good range. But there are many others.. Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: Bob Broeking > To: Tom and/or Anita Humphrey ; 'The Broekings' ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first > Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:46 PM > > Yep, thats what is in it! Bob > > ---Tom and/or Anita Humphrey wrote: > > > > To minimize that clunk into first gear, try using Mobil 1 synthetic > oil. It> is available in 10w-40 and 15w-50 formulation, so choose > whichever is best > > for your climate > > == > Bob Broeking in Springfield,VA http://whitespider.aawsom.net > "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face > of the Eiger, July 19th, 1936... bob_broeking@yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:37:20 -0500 (EST) To: lcshepp@directcon.net (Leland C. Sheppard) Cc: cableguy@no.one.net (Joe Beresford), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast Owners) Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? --WebTV-Mail-1723310857-511 Hi Joe, Your suppose to put out fires, not start fires.:-} Besides living in Texas, the winner must use Hotlist. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ two A.S.H. Cats {Sally & Squirt} http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ --WebTV-Mail-1723310857-511 postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:53:38 -0800 mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id JAA13981; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAC15801; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:53:29 -0600 (CST) zeus.directcon.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08657; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:47:16 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:48:52 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Joe Beresford CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Joe, Joe Beresford wrote: > Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1723310857-511-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:00:28 -0500 (EST) To: lcshepp@directcon.net (Leland C. Sheppard) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast Owners) Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? --WebTV-Mail-640405657-593 Joe is suppose to put out fires, not start fires.:-} Besides living in Texas, the winner must use Hotlist/Hotmail, {something like that}. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ two A.S.H. Cats {Sally & Squirt} http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ --WebTV-Mail-640405657-593 postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:53:38 -0800 mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id JAA13981; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAC15801; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:53:29 -0600 (CST) zeus.directcon.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08657; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:47:16 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:48:52 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Joe Beresford CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Joe, Joe Beresford wrote: > Not trying to pass on spam stuff..but hey a chance on a HARLEY... > http://houston.sidewalk.com/detail/41436 > I'll apologize in advance if you hate harleys....hehehe A HARLEY? BOO! HISS! Seriously, I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast, my tenth motorcycle and tenth Honda motorcycle... "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-640405657-593-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 2 Feb 1999 19:51:25 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:54:45 -0500 From: David P Hart Subject: PC800: WING WONG WOES To: PC800 Listserver Thanks to Jim and Adrian, but I wish I had joined the list about 24 hrs earlier :). Now my other obvious questions. My spoiler is a three hardpoint intallation. Should I just patch, puddy, paint and go or do you think I should try and have the spoiler cut to shape (and patch, paint and puddy that little guy)? Either way, I've got three holes in my trunk. Another question....Would someone give me the best location they can think of for a splice into the rear stoplamp (near the front of the trunk) and what should I be looking for? The bike is new to me, and I've never had it totally naked. Had a GSX1100G before and never had to contend with all this (although I like the way it looks :)). The box looks great and all I've ever heard about the company has been positive. The only downside here is that a GiVi customer service representative told me (last month) that there was no incompatiblity with the spoiler. This played heavily in my decision to purchase. Otherwise, I probably would have just gone with Utopia's on front and rear. Thanks for all the input, David Hart '94 PC GiVi Box on Kitchen Table :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:12:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'David P Hart'" , PC800 Listserver Subject: RE: PC800: WING WONG WOES Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:08:49 -0800 Was your wing an OEM or a Wong Wing? I'm not sure about the best way to patch the holes, but if you want to sell that wing, (Wong or not) I am sure that someone would like to buy it. Not me ... I don't think the color would match and besides, I also have the rack! Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 2/2/99 4:55 PM, David P Hart [SMTP:dhart@InfoAve.Net] wrote: > Thanks to Jim and Adrian, but I wish I had joined the list about 24 hrs > earlier :). > > Now my other obvious questions. My spoiler is a three hardpoint > intallation. Should I just patch, puddy, paint and go or do you think I > should try and have the spoiler cut to shape (and patch, paint and puddy > that little guy)? Either way, I've got three holes in my trunk. > > Another question....Would someone give me the best location they can > think of for a splice into the rear stoplamp (near the front of the > trunk) and what should I be looking for? The bike is new to me, and > I've never had it totally naked. Had a GSX1100G before and never had to > contend with all this (although I like the way it looks :)). > > The box looks great and all I've ever heard about the company has been > positive. The only downside here is that a GiVi customer service > representative told me (last month) that there was no incompatiblity > with the spoiler. This played heavily in my decision to purchase. > Otherwise, I probably would have just gone with Utopia's on front and > rear. > > Thanks for all the input, > David Hart > > '94 PC > GiVi Box on Kitchen Table :) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:45:14 +0700 From: Oh Lai Timg To: PC800 Listserver Subject: PC800: Speedo meter cable Replacement Hi all, My speedo meter was been cut by the brake's plate. Right now, I got a spare and going to replace. Anyone here has the experience of replace such cable ? I would appreciate if you can share with me your experience. Rgds...Oh Lai Timg <<<>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:13:20 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: HSTA List , pc 800 list Subject: PC800: harley some girl I was chatting with on MIRC sent me the URL...I didn't know that it was only eligible in TEXAS...well phooey............. then again it is cold outside thought it was needed to warm things up... get y'all thinking about warm places amd rides...hehehehe -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== ICQ #4172815 Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy BikePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4172815 I have reloaded ICQ!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WING WONG WOES Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:03:51 +0100 Err... I may have missed a message somewhere, but do I understand correctly that the Givi box and Woing are not compatible (just curious here, not that I really care about your problems offcourse : ) ? If so, are you going to sue the Givi guy now ? That is the normal procedure in the US, right ? Emile http://fly.to/emile -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: David P Hart Aan: PC800 Listserver Datum: woensdag 3 februari 1999 2:23 Onderwerp: PC800: WING WONG WOES >Thanks to Jim and Adrian, but I wish I had joined the list about 24 hrs >earlier :). > >Now my other obvious questions. My spoiler is a three hardpoint >intallation. Should I just patch, puddy, paint and go or do you think I >should try and have the spoiler cut to shape (and patch, paint and puddy >that little guy)? Either way, I've got three holes in my trunk. > >Another question....Would someone give me the best location they can >think of for a splice into the rear stoplamp (near the front of the >trunk) and what should I be looking for? The bike is new to me, and >I've never had it totally naked. Had a GSX1100G before and never had to >contend with all this (although I like the way it looks :)). > >The box looks great and all I've ever heard about the company has been >positive. The only downside here is that a GiVi customer service >representative told me (last month) that there was no incompatiblity >with the spoiler. This played heavily in my decision to purchase. >Otherwise, I probably would have just gone with Utopia's on front and >rear. > >Thanks for all the input, >David Hart > >'94 PC >GiVi Box on Kitchen Table :) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Bagster Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:20:25 +0100 Anyone looking for super quality custom made tankcovers and tankbags (and other stuff), check out http://www.bagster.com . They have different color tankcovers for the PC as well, allthough the sequencing for the year models are rather wrong. I had to look at the '93 model to see the '90 red cover. They are French I think, judging by the spelling errors and by the fact that they offer a lot of light blue covers for the PC. Don't let the year indication throw you off. The '89 color is available under 2 different years. Enjoy, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... ...crashing is........" http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:23:08 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jerri Grindle CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Jerri, Jerri Grindle wrote: > Hey - 2 wheels is better than 4 wheels ANYDAY regardless of the label on the > tank. > I own many bikes and I appreciate them each for their own qualities -- from > a PC to > Ducati to Harley and many in between. If someone wants to enjoy their HD > (or their PC) others shouldn't have their noses in the air about it!! Why > be a brand snob?? I'm not a brand snob. I just hate Harley's. I hate the noise many or most of them make. I hate the snobbishness of many if not most Harley riders when it comes to waving to others on other brands of bikes (talk about brand snobbish...). Nine out of ten bikes I see broken down on the side of the road are Harleys... As I said, I'd as soon walk as own one of them. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:14:03 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: PC800 Rider CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel Hi Tim, PC800 Rider wrote: > I mounted my 4-way flasher switch inside the left fairing pocket on > the back wall. I wanted a water tight location out of sight since > it is always active just ike the one on your car. Unless your fairing pocket is considerably different than mine it isn't water tight. I have to dry mine out after each wash of the bike. As I recall, there isn't even a seal around the edge of the cover on mine. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:25:22 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: John Scalisi CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi John, John Scalisi wrote: > But if you win the Harley, you could sell it and buy a new Honda or a > lot of new equipment and riding apparel, or even pay off your mortgage! Now there's a thought! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:26:40 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "jamesalexander@csi.com" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Jim, Jim Alexander wrote: > Aw, come one. You could win the Harley, Sell it, and buy two new PC800s ... one for riding to work and one for weekends. :-) And that's a good thought! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:36:38 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jerri Grindle CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Jerri, Jerri Grindle wrote: > That's all fine and good to have a style and mechanical preference, but > why is the "boo/hiss" necessary? ... I might add a slam of my own, however, > I am personally against knocking anyones ride. > The phrase "I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley." indicates > a bigoted attitude that is reflective of the old school HD riders - which in > turn > is what turns us Jap bike owners off -- etc etc -- and the cycle continues. > Who doesn't wave when you wave (editorial you)? - For the most part it's Harley owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am concerned. As a group, I find the Harley owners in this area (northern California) to be rude, snobbish, thoughtless, etc. If that is bigoted, so be it. > I respect anyones choice of mount and don't look down my nose at anyone > unless they exhibit "an attitude" toward what I do or don't ride. Most of the Harley riders I encounter are "exhibiting an attitude" as far as I am concerned. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:38:54 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: David Klein CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi David, David Klein wrote: > Joe is suppose to put out fires, not start fires.:-} Yeah, Joe... (big grin) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:49:19 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Oh Lai Timg CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Speedo meter cable Replacement Hi Oh, Oh Lai Timg wrote: > Hi all, > My speedo meter was been cut by the brake's plate. Right now, > I got a spare and going to replace. Anyone here has the experience > of replace such cable ? I would appreciate if you can share with me > your experience. Mine had to be replaced after it got pinched down behind the wheel. It turned out to be a pretty simple job. My mechanic just reached up behind the dash (from the front of the motorcycle), unscrewed the old cable and screwed in the new one. The only caution I can think of is to be careful routing the cable back down to the wheel; that was what caused mine to break in the first place. Hope that helps. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: 4 way flasher relay ?? Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:29:54 +0100 I have tried to get a relay here like that is used by You Americans, but = nobody seems to know this in the shops in Norway. 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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 3 Feb 1999 05:24:16 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 05:27:45 -0500 From: David P Hart Subject: Re: PC800: WING WONG WOES To: jamesalexandercsicom Cc: PC800 Listserver It's a Hondaline spoiler to my knowledge (for now, that is). David Jim Alexander wrote: > > Was your wing an OEM or a Wong Wing? I'm not sure about the best way to > patch the holes, but if you want to sell that wing, (Wong or not) I am sure > that someone would like to buy it. Not me ... I don't think the color > would match and besides, I also have the rack! > > Jim Alexander Concord California > '89 PC800 > HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 > > On 2/2/99 4:55 PM, David P Hart [SMTP:dhart@InfoAve.Net] wrote: > > Thanks to Jim and Adrian, but I wish I had joined the list about 24 hrs > > earlier :). > > > > Now my other obvious questions. My spoiler is a three hardpoint > > intallation. Should I just patch, puddy, paint and go or do you think I > > should try and have the spoiler cut to shape (and patch, paint and puddy > > that little guy)? Either way, I've got three holes in my trunk. > > > > Another question....Would someone give me the best location they can > > think of for a splice into the rear stoplamp (near the front of the > > trunk) and what should I be looking for? The bike is new to me, and > > I've never had it totally naked. Had a GSX1100G before and never had to > > contend with all this (although I like the way it looks :)). > > > > The box looks great and all I've ever heard about the company has been > > positive. The only downside here is that a GiVi customer service > > representative told me (last month) that there was no incompatiblity > > with the spoiler. This played heavily in my decision to purchase. > > Otherwise, I probably would have just gone with Utopia's on front and > > rear. > > > > Thanks for all the input, > > David Hart > > > > '94 PC > > GiVi Box on Kitchen Table :) > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:49:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:49:50 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? In a message dated 2/3/99 3:53:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, lcshepp@directcon.net writes: << Who doesn't wave when you wave (editorial you)? - For the most part it's Harley owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am concerned. As a group, I find the Harley owners in this area (northern California) to be rude, snobbish, thoughtless, etc. If that is bigoted, so be it. >> While we have our share of "those" kinds riding Harleys here, there are lots of regular people riding them too. Oddly enough, in my experience, those who really ride their Harleys are the decent sort and those who have the characteristics you recite tend not to ride very much. This becomes very apparent in the Winter time. I ride all year round (both sport bikes and the PC)... I see very few sport bikes out in the Winter time. Most of the bikes I see when it is really cold out are Harleys. The guys riding those bikes obviously really like to ride. They generally are really happy to see me out there regardless of what I am riding... Meet them at a coffee shop, they are very friendly... I think it all boils down to being a rider rather than a poser in their eyes. Maybe the same for us too ! Just a thought! <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: Brad_Herndon@morningstar-group.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 : T-11 @ Talimena Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:33:22 PST Hey Brad Thanks for the invite ! The Talimena Drive is one of my favorite rides, have been along that Road many times. April should be a nice time of the year also what with the trees budding out for spring and maybe even a few dogwoods still in bloom. For you riders who haven't been there, the Road runs along the top of the Kiamichi Mountains and offers lots of nice twisties and views of the Oklahoma countryside. Have to be really careful as some of those curves don't have guard rails and it's a long way down ! It's on my calender as the first decent trip of '99. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: "Leland C. Sheppard" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Leland C. Sheppard wrote: > owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves > lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am > concerned. I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They never see the humor in that. Makes me giggle, every time. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:19:13 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Control panel To: lcshepp@directcon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) lcshepp@directcon.net writes: >Hi Tim, > >PC800 Rider wrote: > >> I mounted my 4-way flasher switch inside the left fairing pocket >on >> the back wall. I wanted a water tight location out of sight since >> it is always active just ike the one on your car. > >Unless your fairing pocket is considerably different than mine it >isn't >water tight. I have to dry mine out after each wash of the bike. >As I >recall, there isn't even a seal around the edge of the cover on >mine. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >123,000 miles > Mine must be different then because I have a rubber gasket around the edge of the door. I know it is water proof because I was caught on the road in in a horrific thunderstorm for 6 hours this past summer in the Adirondack Mts. and it did not leak. I don't remember what I had inside there now, but I do remember remarking to my riding partner that it was dry. I thik it was my leather sunglass case. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger A. Pattee) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:33:57 GMT On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500, TommyTeal wrote: >Leland C. Sheppard wrote: > > >> owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes = saves >> lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as = I am >> concerned.=20 > > >I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes >saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They never >see the humor in that. > >Makes me giggle, every time. > ___________________________ I also get a kick out of the statement that loud pipes saves lives.. Hell, they don't see me when I come driving down the road, with siren blaring; headlight wigwags flashing; corner strobes strobing; visibar activated; whatever else kind of light being lit and flashing/strobing/pulsating, heh.....yeah, right...loud pipes saves lives....(snicker) Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:42:10 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: "Roger A. Pattee" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Roger A. Pattee wrote: > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones > we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only > the evil are here. > > Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full > of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to > the next man that dies. > <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Gee there's a catchy tune. Do we sing it too: It's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, it's a small world after all; it's a small, small world. (second verse, same as the first) :-) Now that I have you all (all that have ever endured the torture that is Disney) singing this the rest of the day. My work is done. ;-) Standard disclaimer: not poking fun Roger, just having fun. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA09092 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 06:00:19 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: "'X PC 800 List'" Subject: PC800: Replacement Lamps Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:54:19 -0500 Does anyone have a list of all the replacement lamps (bulbs) for the PC? ~Harvey Sattin, Brookline, MA (Going to be 50 degrees and sunny today!) '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lohan Johnson To: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:11:01 +0200 I do find that with some bikers, esp. squids, you must lower your humour's IQ. Then on the other hand, I find a lot of 'em going right over my head too! Just smile; 't makes 'em wonder what you're up to. Lohan -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Ongstad [mailto:gwta@voyager.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 3:15 PM To: Leland C. Sheppard Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Leland C. Sheppard wrote: > owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves > lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am > concerned. I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They never see the humor in that. Makes me giggle, every time. TommyTeal -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:35:18 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first I've got about 3500 miles on my 98, and it has "clunked" into first since day one, hot or cold. It even lurches forward ever so slightly. I thought it was normal (it's not a scary lurch, but a definite detectable little hop). Should I have the dealer take a look at it? Am I at risk of damage if I don't? It doesn't bother me too much. Doug Wilkerson Advisory I/T Specialist, IBM Global Embedded & Production Solutions Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:20:29 -0600 Subject: PC800: Fw: Minneapolis motorcycle show I plan to be at the show at the Minneapolis Convention Center... Friday Feb. 12 5 pm - 10 pm Saturday Feb. 13 10 am - 9 pm Sunday Feb 14 10 am - 5 pm I plan to be at the show at 10 am on Saturday Feb. 13. I will first of all be at the "Hitchin Post" area. They are a local dealer of fun stuff and are to have 1200 sq. ft. of display. I plan to be there first thing and hang around till about 11 at 11:30. would love to see ya all. I am 58 years old have a very short burr haircut, Will have on Jeans and some sort of pull over shirt. I will be wearing a gold Seko watch and will be looking for new friends from the list. Rod Carey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:05:44 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Mark Gilb CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things Mark Gilb wrote: > > > I am also interested in hearing from anyone on the list who installed their > own Utopia backrest. Was it difficult? Do you like the product? I am > getting ready to order one and would like to get some opinions. > I installed the Utopia backrest. I had trouble getting the bolts back into the grab rails but was successful by putting my weight on one knee directly over the bolt at the edge of the seat. The only other hard part was gathering up the nerve to plunge the knife into the seat to make the hole for the upright. You have heard the saying "Measure twice, cut once". I measured about 5 times before I cut and then I was still nervous. It all came out OK and I love the backrest. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Delivered-To: fixup-pc800@hpc.uh.edu@fixme by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 16:11:12 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:10:45 -0700 From: Bob Coffman To: Steve Wilson CC: Mark Gilb , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things I have both driver and passenger Utopias, and love them. They were on the '89 when I bought it. Took a 6,000 ride and felt that the back support made 500 mile days, back to back, possible. Bob Steve Wilson wrote: > > Mark Gilb wrote: > > > > > > > I am also interested in hearing from anyone on the list who installed their > > own Utopia backrest. Was it difficult? Do you like the product? I am > > getting ready to order one and would like to get some opinions. > > > > I installed the Utopia backrest. I had trouble getting the bolts back into the > grab rails but was successful by putting my weight on one knee directly over > the bolt at the edge of the seat. The only other hard part was gathering up the > nerve to plunge the knife into the seat to make the hole for the upright. You > have heard the saying "Measure twice, cut once". I measured about 5 times > before I cut and then I was still nervous. It all came out OK and I love the > backrest. > > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 7/98 SS1000 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Replacement Lamps Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:18:21 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I took my old burned out turn signal lamp to the local auto parts shop. = They had the same spec bulbs, but 10 candlepower instead of 8, and only = 60 cents apiece! Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Sattin, Harvey[SMTP:h.sattin@neccsd.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 5:54 AM To: 'X PC 800 List' Subject: PC800: Replacement Lamps Does anyone have a list of all the replacement lamps (bulbs) for the PC? ~Harvey Sattin, Brookline, MA (Going to be 50 degrees and sunny today!) '98 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:25:35 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Mine does the same. Yesterday I tried putting it in first before = starting it, and the bike lurched just slightly when the starter = engaged. I then put it back into neutral and let it warm up a bit. = Back into first, and another clunk. It clunks just occasionally (and slightly) when downshifting to first = while moving slowly--it was just that early-morning clunk that bothered = me, but since there doesn't seem to be a reasonable way around it, I'll = learn to live with it. Heck, Leland's over 100k on his PC, and it = doesn't seem to have caused him any problems, to my knowledge. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com[SMTP:dwilkers@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 4:35 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first I've got about 3500 miles on my 98, and it has "clunked" into first = since day one, hot or cold. It even lurches forward ever so slightly. I = thought it was normal (it's not a scary lurch, but a definite detectable little hop). Should I have the dealer take a look at it? Am I at risk of damage if I don't? It doesn't bother me too much. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Bob Coffman'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:53:18 -0500 Bob, I hope you are enjoying the brochure for which you haven't paid me the $3 postage or reimbursed me for the $5 bounced check fee. Have a nice day. Roger Prince -----Original Message----- From: Bob Coffman [SMTP:bcoffman@uswest.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:11 To: Steve Wilson Cc: Mark Gilb; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things I have both driver and passenger Utopias, and love them. They were on the '89 when I bought it. Took a 6,000 ride and felt that the back support made 500 mile days, back to back, possible. Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: lcshepp@directcon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:20:49 -0800 I have found that many of the Harley riders will wave to me when I encounter them. HOWEVER, I have to wave first. But the same Harley rider that I had to wave first to, waved first when encountering another Harley rider. So there there must be a tighter comradery between Harley riders as opposed to fellow motorcyclists. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: Leland C. Sheppard[SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:36 PM > To: Jerri Grindle > Cc: Pacific Coast Owners > Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? > > Hi Jerri, > > Jerri Grindle wrote: > > > That's all fine and good to have a style and mechanical preference, but > > why is the "boo/hiss" necessary? ... I might add a slam of my own, however, > > I am personally against knocking anyones ride. > > The phrase "I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley." indicates > > a bigoted attitude that is reflective of the old school HD riders - which in > > turn > > is what turns us Jap bike owners off -- etc etc -- and the cycle continues. > > > > Who doesn't wave when you wave (editorial you)? - For the most part it's > Harley > owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves > lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am > concerned. As a group, I find the Harley owners in this area (northern > California) to be rude, snobbish, thoughtless, etc. If that is bigoted, so be > it. > > > I respect anyones choice of mount and don't look down my nose at anyone > > unless they exhibit "an attitude" toward what I do or don't ride. > > Most of the Harley riders I encounter are "exhibiting an attitude" as far as I > am concerned. > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast > "Black Beauty" > 123,000 miles > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:41:40 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Peter_N1@verifone.com CC: lcshepp@directcon.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Peter_N1@verifone.com wrote: > > I have found that many of the Harley riders will wave to me when I encounter > them. HOWEVER, I have to wave first. But the same Harley rider that I had to > wave first to, waved first when encountering another Harley rider. So there > there must be a tighter comradery between Harley riders as opposed to fellow > motorcyclists. > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! Not to add to any flame war (who me?!), there has been occasion, while I have been riding the ACE, that I go by a Harley rider going the other way, who I wave too, who kind of give this half wave while trying to figure out what I am riding, then getting a "aww damn" look on their face when they realize it is not a HD. Great fun. Plus, the strange part is, it is generally the hard core Harley rider (you can spot them), who waves more than the poser. I wave to them all, just to piss them off. Great fun again. Now the following is a letter I grabbed off a Harley page a long time ago, from an obvious long time Harley rider (but not the kind, I generally meet). This person is dead serious, and I found it hilarious. I hope you do too. (PS - I love the wave part, hahaahahahahaha). Remember, don't shoot the messenger. Yo bud: You could call this: Why I'm ashamed to ride my Harley, or, why the doctors/lawyers/feminists/fatbroads on Sportsters with 8 pounds of fringe and 30 pounds of leather but thank god for electric start are a real pain in the rear shocks/etc. etc. For years I went to real biker runs, where guys with names like Scar and Bandit, often as not who never had a bath or at least didn't recognize water, would roll up on a clapped out Panhead with a worn clutch and a shotgun strapped on it and demand to be drenched in beer, laughing like lunatics and sometimes even using their kickstand. Now, what have we got. Faddists and trendsetters with $500 official leather Harley jackets, chaps, belt buckles, socks, boots, hats, do-rags, t-shirts, lighters, sunglasses, chains, rings, coasters, scarves, god knows what else strapped to their sorry overweight asses, dripping in fringe and smelling of HD perfume and cologne, who are afraid to get dust on their chrome and actually rode non-stop to the HD shop for the Saturday free hot dog and coke and aren't we bad muthafuckers cause we got Harleys. We bad. We bad. Makes me want to puke. (And sometimes the sumbitches ain't even on Harleys but 'Honda Aces' or some such shit like that. God DAMN it!) The last good run I went to only one guy got killed cause he got sideways with some outlaws. Most of the others got stuffed in trash cans and the cops rounded us all up and locked us inside the gates (don't blame them) but man it was fun while it lasted. People used to be afraid of us; now they wave. They WAVE! I hate that! I want them to fear for their daughters, roll up their windows, dial 911 and write letters to the newspaper when we show up, just like they usta. This "you meet the nicest people on a Harley" bullshit is killing what was once something real and fine and all American - a badass, real suspicious 1 percenter who needs watching. Girls used to ask for rides. Now, they've got their own bike (although they couldn't kickstart it or even pull in the clutch on a 68 Sporty) cause daddy helped with the financing. Geez, this really sucks. Big time. Old Bold Biker Ready To Fold It still makes me chuckle every time I read it. I hope this is not a repeat. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:55:50 -0500 From: Ed Roberts To: Peter_N1@verifone.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Peter_N1@verifone.com wrote: > > I have found that many of the Harley riders will wave to me when I encounter > them. HOWEVER, I have to wave first. But the same Harley rider that I had to > wave first to, waved first when encountering another Harley rider. So there > there must be a tighter comradery between Harley riders as opposed to fellow > motorcyclists. > > Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > > > ---------- > > From: Leland C. Sheppard[SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:36 PM > > To: Jerri Grindle > > Cc: Pacific Coast Owners > > Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? > > > > Hi Jerri, > > > > Jerri Grindle wrote: > > > > > That's all fine and good to have a style and mechanical preference, but > > > why is the "boo/hiss" necessary? ... I might add a slam of my own, however, > > > I am personally against knocking anyones ride. > > > The phrase "I would give up motorcycling before I'd own a Harley." indicates > > > a bigoted attitude that is reflective of the old school HD riders - which in > > > turn > > > is what turns us Jap bike owners off -- etc etc -- and the cycle continues. > > > > > > > Who doesn't wave when you wave (editorial you)? - For the most part it's > > Harley > > owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes saves > > lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as I am > > concerned. As a group, I find the Harley owners in this area (northern > > California) to be rude, snobbish, thoughtless, etc. If that is bigoted, so be > > it. > > > > > I respect anyones choice of mount and don't look down my nose at anyone > > > unless they exhibit "an attitude" toward what I do or don't ride. > > > > Most of the Harley riders I encounter are "exhibiting an attitude" as far as I > > am concerned. > > > > -- > > Leland > > '94 Pacific Coast > > "Black Beauty" > > 123,000 miles > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. You ought to ride a motorscooter out there sometime, hardly anyone waves, maybe an ocassional non Harley rider. Ed Roberts, at the bottom of the pecking order, Hickory, Pa. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:59:59 -0800 All Honda bikes I have ever owned make a loudish "clack" when puting them into 1st from neutral when stopped, or up/down shifting while traveling. This stems from the design of the shifting mechanism in the transmission. The shift forks push the selected gear (non-rotating when the clutch is disengaged) to touch the side of the matching fixed gear (rotates when the rear wheel rotates). Both gears have heavy protrusions on their side faces (dogs) that engage with each other. Since Honda uses a wet clutch (bathed in oil), the "clutched" gears will still rotate even if the clutch is pulled due to the stiction created by the thin oil film between the plates of the clutch, if the bike is in neutral. The "clack" is the noise made when the turning gear is shoved into the fixed gear. Since it is only the oil film that is causing the "clutched" gears to turn, they have no significant torque and will stop as soon as the dogs on the gears engage each other. The "clack" is louder when going from neutral to first gear with the bike stopped since the turning gears have to go from idle rpm to 0 instantly. So it is best to keep the engine revs down when shifting from neutral to 1st when stopped. One Yamaha bike I had used a hollow shaft for the "clutched" gears and used a plunger to displace ball bearings inside the hollow shaft into depressions on the selected gear. This method was far quieter than the Honda transmission, but also felt more vague when shifting and it was easier to mis a shift or go into a false neutral. I assume Honda knows what they are doing and designs the gears with the correct hardness to survive this abuse. I have never had a transmission gear failure on any Honda bike I have had (3). It would be nice if Honda could adapt the sliding gear format used in syncro-mesh auto transmissions on the PC, it would be more in character with the PC's quietness. If anyone has their shop manual handy, I may be incorrect as to whether the shift forks slide the gears on the clutch shaft or on the driven shaft, but the end result is the same. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: dwilkers@us.ibm.com[SMTP:dwilkers@us.ibm.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 4:35 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first > > > > > I've got about 3500 miles on my 98, and it has "clunked" into first since > day one, hot or cold. It even lurches forward ever so slightly. I thought > it was normal (it's not a scary lurch, but a definite detectable little > hop). > > Should I have the dealer take a look at it? Am I at risk of damage if I > don't? It doesn't bother me too much. > > Doug Wilkerson > > Advisory I/T Specialist, IBM > Global Embedded & Production Solutions > Internal: 799-7522 IBMUSM24/DWILKERS > External: 205-972-7522 dwilkers@us.ibm.com > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:13:52 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb?] --------------34976EAAB8B For our Canadian friends. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta --------------34976EAAB8B (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Feb 3 14:16:14 1999) X-From_: owner-wings@armchair.mb.ca Wed Feb 3 14:02:42 1999 by crab.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 14:55:33 -0000 Delivered-To: wings-outgoing@armchair.mb.ca by onramp.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 20:06:48 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:00:21 -0500 From: Rigger To: "WOTI mail list" For the Canadians on the list . . . . . . >REVIEW OF CANADIAN ACDEMIC PROGRAMS IN LIGHT BULB REPLACEMENT : > >How many U of T students does it take to change a light bulb? Two >... one to change the light bulb and one to crack under the pressure. > >How many Queen's students does it take to change a light bulb? One >... he holds the bulb and the world revolves around him. > >How many Waterloo students does it take to change a light bulb? Six >... one to design a nuclear-powered bulb that never needs changing, one >to figure out how to power the rest of Waterloo using that nuked light >bulb, two to install it and one to write the computer program that >controls the wall switch. > >How many UNB students does it take to change a light bulb? None ... New >Brunswick doesn't have electricity. > >How many UBC students does it take to change a light bulb? Only one >... but he gets six credits for it. > >How many Laurentian students does it take to change a light bulb? None >... Sudbury looks better in the dark. > >How many Ottawa students does it take to change a light bulb? Trick >question ... Ottawa isn't a real university. > >How many Western students does it to change a light bulb? Five ... one >to change the light bulb and four to find the perfect J CREW outfit to >wear for the occasion. > >How many UNBC students does it take to change a light bulb? None...who >gives a flying hoot if it's burned out anyway! > >How many Carleton students does it take to change a light bulb? Two >... one to change the bulb and one to complain about how, if they were >at a better school, the light bulb wouldn't go out. > >How many Guelph students does it take to change a light bulb? Seven >... one to screw it in and six to figure out how to power it on manure. > >How many University of Victoria students does it take to change a light >bulb? None ... lava lamps never burn out man! > >How many Simon Fraser University students does it take to change a light >bulb? They wouldn't change it because that's just what the ruling class >bourgeois swine would want to see the impoverished student do...a >demonstration is definitly in order. > >How many University of Alberta students does it take to change a light >bulb? Five ... one to change it, one to protest for more funding, one >to picket for lower taxes, two to turn the event into a summer festival. > >How many University of Lethbridge students does it take to change a >light bulb? Four ... one to change it, one to complain about the >subterranean campus, and two to explain where Lethbridge is. > >How many University of Calgary students does it take to change a light >bulb? Two ... one to change it, one to drive the combine. > >How many University of Saskatoon students does it take to change a light >bulb? One ... but he has to wait until after harvest. > >How many University of Manitoba students does it take to change a light >bulb? There's a university in Manitoba? Dave Vick AMA#662035 ABATE#15943 PGW#1 ACGWB #5 DoD#2117 http://my.voyager.net/rigger/ http://my.voyager.net/rigger/projGW.html The meek may very well inherit the Earth, but they'll have to take the twisty roads by force. --------------34976EAAB8B-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-29 #34071) 3 Feb 1999 14:44:56 -0600 (CST) 03 Feb 1999 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:46:09 -0800 From: "M. Ham" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? To: "Leland C. Sheppard" , Jerri Grindle Cc: Pacific Coast Owners X-MSMail-priority: Normal I agree!!! However, I entered the contest anyway because I know If I win the thing, I will get a long line of people who will pay me a lot more than the bike is worth to take it off my hands. M. Ham 96 PC800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard To: Jerri Grindle Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:55 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? > >I'm not a brand snob. I just hate Harley's. I hate the noise many or most of >them make. I hate the snobbishness of many if not most Harley riders when it >comes to waving to others on other brands of bikes (talk about brand >snobbish...). Nine out of ten bikes I see broken down on the side of the road >are Harleys... As I said, I'd as soon walk as own one of them. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >123,000 miles > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "PC 800 List" Subject: PC800: Waving. Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:31:40 +0100 Hi, I tried a Harley once and do now understand why the Harly riders dont = wave. They are holding on to their shakig machines for dear life. Arvid Norway ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ For adding similar signatures to your e-mail go to: = http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Homepage is at: http://members.tripod.com/Lovik/ My Fax Number is: +47-51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: +47-51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- me by ICQ.=20 My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (arl-img-8.compuserve.com [149.174.217.138]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-29 #34071) 3 Feb 1999 16:06:05 -0600 (CST) id RAA09504 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:01:03 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:00:45 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Clunking into first gear To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Content-disposition: inline Years ago, in the early days of the HSTA, there was much discussion about this subject. One suggestion was to consider changing to a lighter weight oil. Those using 20W50 reported a marked improvement when switching to 10W40 weight oil. I have used 10W40 weight oil in my motorcycles in recent years, with no "clunking" problems. FWIW... Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb?] Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:22:54 -0500 Tommy; I'm flattered if an American actually spent so much time making up all these university jokes, based on their characteristics as we know them! Elton Hammond 97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 2:17 PM Subject: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb?] >For our Canadian friends. > >TommyTeal >-- >93SE (Teal, You Think?) >95Hannigan >95ACE (got to go) >97Pacific Coast >98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) >GWTA #6871 >GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:52:23 EST To: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com, bcoffman@uswest.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Nice Day and Other Things In a message dated 2/3/99 11:54:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com writes: << Bob, I hope you are enjoying the brochure for which you haven't paid me the $3 postage or reimbursed me for the $5 bounced check fee. >> Come on Bob, Pay up! I'm ashamed of you! Rob Cary NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:28:45 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Elton Hammond CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb?] I just wish I could take credit for them. Pretty accurate reflection, you say? TommyTeal Elton Hammond wrote: > > Tommy; > > I'm flattered if an American actually spent so much time making up all these > university jokes, based on their characteristics as we know them! > > Elton Hammond > 97 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Ongstad > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 2:17 PM > Subject: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a > light bulb?] > > >For our Canadian friends. > > > >TommyTeal > >-- > >93SE (Teal, You Think?) > >95Hannigan > >95ACE (got to go) > >97Pacific Coast > >98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) > >GWTA #6871 > >GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta > > -- 93SE (Teal, ya hunh) 95Hannigan 95ACE 97Pacific Coast (oh baby) 98V-Star Classic (Red?, you bet!) GWTA of Michigan web site http://my.voyager.net/gwta/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Heated gloves Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:01:00 GMT This has to be the greatest list ever! That is almost too good of a reply, Peter. Just for an LED power light on a pair of heated gloves. Wow! We Pcers have just about ever accessory ever imagined covered with this list! Thanks again. ]Monty[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:07:39 -0500 Most "civilians" who don't like motorcycles will tell you that it's = because 1) they're too loud and 2) the riders are "reckless". = Recklessness is not confined to any one group but more often than not = too-loud bikes are cruisers of one type or another (can't just blame the = just Harleys even though they are well represented in this group). Too = loud motorcycles are causing on and off-road areas to be closed to = motorcycle use. In case you'd like a little proof, just try to ride your = motorcycle to your $2K+/week condo at Wild Dunes Resort, Isle of Palms, = SC - they won't let you in now matter how much you paid for the damn = condo. Fortunately, I called ahead! This will not doubt be a revelation, but did you know Harleys don't have = to be loud? Last summer I rode a week with my wife's cousin from CA who = has a big touring Harley. This man rides across the USA at least once a = year - he's a serious rider not just a "poser" and he, like most of us, = detests loud bikes. His stock Harley pipes are quiet ... not PC-quiet, = but quiet enough.=20 IMO, the fundamental problem, is that law enforcement agencies don't = enforce existing noise and vehicle safety laws. I realize they = occasionally have more important things to do but too often they just = turn their heads rather than confront loud bikers. Joe Citizen reacts by = requesting more stringent laws, regualtions, restrictions, etc when in = fact the existing ones would usually take care of the problem if = enforced. Loud pipes cost rights! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger A. Pattee [SMTP:rpattee@g-net.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:34 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500, TommyTeal wrote: >Leland C. Sheppard wrote: > > >> owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud pipes = saves >> lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far as = I am >> concerned.=20 > > >I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes >saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They never >see the humor in that. > >Makes me giggle, every time. > ___________________________ I also get a kick out of the statement that loud pipes saves lives.. Hell, they don't see me when I come driving down the road, with siren blaring; headlight wigwags flashing; corner strobes strobing; visibar activated; whatever else kind of light being lit and flashing/strobing/pulsating, heh.....yeah, right...loud pipes saves lives....(snicker) Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:36:55 -0500 From: Richard Stafford To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Night Ride Took a short ride tonight about 10 miles to church. Sky was crystal clear up through the trees. Nothing spectactular happened just one of those kodak moments. Something special about night time riding that I've always enjoyed. Take Care. Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2KYAA7Y; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:41:18 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:40:33 -0700 Subject: PC800: PC = Y2K COMPLIANT Received letter from American Honda in Torrance, CA, (Tel. 310/783-2000) dtd. 1.29.99 stating Honda's '85 Nighthawk 700S and '89 Pacific Coast are compliant. Selestine Booker of customer service wrote, "You can be confident that your Honda vehicles will not experience any failure due to the date 2000." However, external damage is another story! White PC's may experince blonde moments very close together. Ann '89 PC-AZ Ghost-Teaser Wed. 2.3.99 18:40 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:11:43 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: back rest I want a driver back rest,,but have only seen the Utopia,,,have looked in archives ,,if anything else is there , I missed it.. Any suggestions? Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:48:29 +0700 From: Oh Lai Timg To: PC800 Listserver Subject: PC800: Rear drump Break For PC Hi All, I just brought a rear drump break for PC800. The part no. is 0630-MM8-881. According to my supplier this part is mean for Shadow use and it's compatible to PC800. I don't know whether this true. Does anyone here know about this and what is the actual part no. for PC800. Any problem or experiencing such break as above mentioned part. Rgds...Oh Lai Timg <<>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:59:34 +0700 From: Oh Lai Timg To: PC800 Listserver Subject: PC800: Break & Clutch fluid Hi All, I spotted the fluid's color for both break and clutch is appeared differently. One is seems like darker than other. But the cover on indicated only "DOT 4" fluid to be used. I wonder can I just top up with any "DOT 4" fluid. Currently, I just brought a ESSO DOT 4 break fluid. Anyone has tried it ? Appreciate if you can provide me your experience. Rgds...Oh Lai Timg <<>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 3 Feb 1999 22:19:46 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:22:55 -0500 From: David P Hart Subject: Re: PC800: back rest To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I think Russell Day-Long Saddles has a seat with a drivers backrest option, but it's an entire seat replacement for >500 US (you have to ship off or deliver the seatpan...a.k.a. no riding while they've got your seat hostage). Utopia is the only thing I've seen and have always heard good things. Price is about $150. David Doug wrote: > > I want a driver back rest,,but have only seen the Utopia,,,have looked in > archives ,,if anything else is there , I missed it.. > Any suggestions? > Doug > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2K7QDZ3; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:51:20 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: KLW@centuryinter.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:47:51 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: strobes From: Dan Messaros Dear KLW, I checked Washington State Regs, and as I thought, you can only have strobe lights on emergence vehicles. I would think it would be this way in all states, and others on the list have said the same thing for their state. Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter. 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:03:29 -0500 cen13504 writes: >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 > >List Members: > >Do we have any police officers on the list. I would like to know if >it >is legal to mount a small strobe light on the rear of my PC? > >Just curious > >klw > >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3 > name="KLW.vcf" >Content-Description: Card for cen13504 > filename="KLW.vcf" > >begin:vcard >n:; >tel;work:1-800-264-6757 >x-mozilla-html:FALSE >adr:;;;;;; >version:2.1 >email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net >note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or >comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second >Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The >Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale >Super V-2000 >end:vcard > >--------------78207FC4DCA8D3B45853CBB3-- > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D2K9LAF3; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:24:02 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:21:41 -0600 Subject: PC800: HID headlight bulbs From: James S Nyffeler Has anyone found the new style headlight bulb (blue tint like the new Lincolns) that will work in our PC's? I would like to find one around the 80/100w size. I use a 55/100w now and find the low beam lacking at night. Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D2K9LAJJ; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:24:02 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:22:21 -0600 Subject: PC800: OEM PC windshield From: James S Nyffeler Since so many of you have replaced your windshield with an after market one. Does anyone want to part with their OEM one? I currently have the tall hondaline that I have cut 2" off of the top of. I would like to experiment with the OEM windshield. You can reply directly to me at the address below. Thanks: Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2LAEZZ6; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:38:38 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:34:48 -0800 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? From: Dan Messaros Hi Jim, As a Law Enforcement Officer with National Park Service, it is VERY hard to enforce the decibel limit law. For it to stand up in court, at leat the court I have to go through, I have to be certified in the use of a decibel meeter. The meeter has to be tested and certified as accurate, and the vehicle being tested has to pass me at a measured 100 feet for the test to be good. That is why you see so many officers turning there heads. I do not like it any more then you do, it drives me crazy! I wish the folks sitting in the office would make it easier for me to do my job with what is on the books now than making more regulations that I can not enforce. Just a thought from the other side. Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 Miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:07:39 -0500 Jim Randall writes: >Most "civilians" who don't like motorcycles will tell you that it's = >because 1) they're too loud and 2) the riders are "reckless". = >Recklessness is not confined to any one group but more often than not >= >too-loud bikes are cruisers of one type or another (can't just blame >the = >just Harleys even though they are well represented in this group). Too >= >loud motorcycles are causing on and off-road areas to be closed to = >motorcycle use. In case you'd like a little proof, just try to ride >your = >motorcycle to your $2K+/week condo at Wild Dunes Resort, Isle of >Palms, = >SC - they won't let you in now matter how much you paid for the damn = >condo. Fortunately, I called ahead! > >This will not doubt be a revelation, but did you know Harleys don't >have = >to be loud? Last summer I rode a week with my wife's cousin from CA >who = >has a big touring Harley. This man rides across the USA at least once >a = >year - he's a serious rider not just a "poser" and he, like most of >us, = >detests loud bikes. His stock Harley pipes are quiet ... not PC-quiet, >= >but quiet enough.=20 > >IMO, the fundamental problem, is that law enforcement agencies don't = >enforce existing noise and vehicle safety laws. I realize they = >occasionally have more important things to do but too often they just >= >turn their heads rather than confront loud bikers. Joe Citizen reacts >by = >requesting more stringent laws, regualtions, restrictions, etc when in >= >fact the existing ones would usually take care of the problem if = >enforced. > >Loud pipes cost rights! > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net >http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roger A. Pattee [SMTP:rpattee@g-net.net] >Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:34 AM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save >lives? > >On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500, TommyTeal wrote: > >>Leland C. Sheppard wrote: >> >> >>> owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud >pipes = >saves >>> lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far >as = >I am >>> concerned.=20 >> >> >>I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes >>saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They >never >>see the humor in that. >> >>Makes me giggle, every time. >> >___________________________ >I also get a kick out of the statement that loud pipes saves lives.. > >Hell, they don't see me when I come driving down the road, with siren >blaring; headlight wigwags flashing; corner strobes strobing; visibar >activated; whatever else kind of light being lit and >flashing/strobing/pulsating, heh.....yeah, right...loud pipes saves >lives....(snicker) > > >Roger ><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones >we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 >the evil are here. > >Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 >of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 >the next man that dies. ><*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. > >http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:52:15 +0100 >I do find that with some bikers, esp. squids, you must lower your >humour's IQ. Then on the other hand, I find a lot of 'em going right >over my head too! Just smile; 't makes 'em wonder what you're up to. >Lohan > What does IQ mean ? Emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:52:21 +0100 While we're making fun of Harleys anyway, I thought it was nice to dig out some Harley-poking classics. There are three pasted below. Enjoy, Emile http://fly.to/emile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back 10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty ... 9. Leather and studs make it too hard to raise arm ... 8. Refuses to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for ... 7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off... 6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos ... 5. Angry because just took out second mortgage to pay luxury tax on new Harley ... 4. Just discovered the fine print in owner's manual and realized H-D is partially owned by those rice-burner manufacturers ... 3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just reaching to cover their ears like everyone else ... 2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his hand on spiked helmet ... And the Number One reason Harley riders don't wave back: 1.They're jealous that after spending $30,000, they still don't own a Gold Wing. Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Don't Wave Back 10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture ... 9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip ... 8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm ... 7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him... 6. The expresso machine just finished ... 5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved ... 4. Was in a three-way conference call with stock broker and accessories dealer ... 3. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard ... 2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system ... And the Number One reason Gold Wing riders don't wave back: 1. They couldn't see through the glare from the chromed-dash accents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One morning as St. Peter came up to the "Pearly Gates" he heard a loud commotion outside among the new arrivals. It seems that an old biker was chasing a younger man around, slapping him upside the head and yelling "WHEN YOU'RE STOPPED, STUPID, WHEN YOU'RE STOPPED!!!" Well 'ol St. Peter jumped in and demanded an explanation, and this is what he heard..... "Well sir," said the younger man, "I've ridden bikes all my life but I'd never owned a Harley, so when I got my new scoot I asked old Bill here to ride, with me, so I'd have an experienced Harley rider along in case something went wrong." We'd traveled about 60 miles when I realized that the bike didn't have a gas gauge. I shouted back to Bill, "How do you check the amount of gas in the tank?" Well Bill hollers back, "You take the gas cap off and rock the bike back an forth" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A young man has always dreamed of owning a Harley Davidson. One day he had finally saved up enough money, so he goes down to the dealer. Afterpicking out the perfect bike, the dealer asks if he would like the extra chrome protection added to his bill. The young man is upset because he does not have the extra money and is now afraid that the chrome will rust as soon as it gets wet. The dealer tells him not to worry. There is an old biker trick that will keep the chrome like new. All he has to do is keep a jar of Vaseline handy and put it on the chrome before it rains and everything will be fine.The young man happily pays for the bike and leaves. A few months later, the young man meets a woman and falls in love. She asks him to come home and meet her parents over dinner. He readily agrees and the date is set. At the appointed time, he picks her up on his Harley and they ride to her parents house. Before they go in, she tells him that they have a family tradition that whoever speaks first after the dinner must do the dishes. After a delicious dinner, everyone sits in silence waiting for the first person to break and get stuck doing the dishes. After a long fifteen minutes, the young man decides to speed things up so he reaches over and kisses the woman in front of her family. No one says a word. Next, he decides to take a more direct approach so he throws her on the table and has sex with her in front of everyone. No one says a word. Now he is getting desperate, so he grabs her mother and throws her on the table. They have even wilder sex. No one says a word. Just then, he hears thunder in the distance. His first thought is to protect the chrome on his Harley, so he reaches into his pocket and pulls out his Vaseline. And the father says, "Ok dammit, I'll do the dishes!!!!" : ) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:28:06 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Peter_N1@verifone.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Peter, Peter_N1@verifone.com wrote: > I have found that many of the Harley riders will wave to me when I encounter > them. HOWEVER, I have to wave first. But the same Harley rider that I had to > wave first to, waved first when encountering another Harley rider. So there > there must be a tighter comradery between Harley riders as opposed to fellow > motorcyclists. I have a hard time not waving when I see somebody on a bike 'cause I think bike riding is great so I almost always wave first. Nine times out of ten, when I get no response back, the person is riding a Harley or one of the customs; I can tell from the noise level. At that point I have an unprintable response to that person. That kind of rudeness really tees me off. I have also run into very nice, very considerate Harley riders. The problem is that they seem to be the exception rather than the rule and that's too bad. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:31:34 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Ed Roberts CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi Ed, Ed Roberts wrote: > You ought to ride a motorscooter out there sometime, hardly anyone > waves, maybe an ocassional non Harley rider. > Ed Roberts, > at the bottom of the pecking order, I do. If you are on a motorized two wheels I figure you deserve a wave. I even wave to cops on bikes (for the same reason - they are on two motorized wheels). I can tell that the "scooter-types" get no respect; they always act startled when I wave. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:38:43 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "M. Ham" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Hi, M. Ham wrote: > I agree!!! However, I entered the contest anyway because I know If I win > the thing, I will get a long line of people who will pay me a lot more than > the bike is worth to take it off my hands. Go for it! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:45:19 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: PC800 Rider CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel Hi Tim, PC800 Rider wrote: > Mine must be different then because I have a rubber gasket around > the edge of the door. I know it is water proof because I was caught > on the road in in a horrific thunderstorm for 6 hours this past > summer in the Adirondack Mts. and it did not leak. I don't remember > what I had inside there now, but I do remember remarking to my > riding partner that it was dry. I thik it was my leather sunglass > case. I was wrong about the gasket. I just went and checked and mine has a thin foam gasket around the edge of it. I carry my spare headlight bulb in mine and I have to move that box out of the pocket when I wash the bike or the box will get soaked. So the gasket on mine isn't doing much good. Does yours fit fairly tightly? The cover on mine is quite loose. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:51:48 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: dwilkers@us.ibm.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Hi Doug, dwilkers@us.ibm.com wrote: > I've got about 3500 miles on my 98, and it has "clunked" into first since > day one, hot or cold. It even lurches forward ever so slightly. I thought > it was normal (it's not a scary lurch, but a definite detectable little > hop). > > Should I have the dealer take a look at it? Am I at risk of damage if I > don't? It doesn't bother me too much. If it really moves the bike forward it would indicate to me that the clutch isn't properly releasing and I'd want that looked at. Mine "bounces" slightly when I shift into first when it's cold but it doesn't threaten to move the bike. When it's warm, the "bounce" is lessened. I was watching it tonight on the way home and I can hear every shift, even with my helmet on, except for 4th to 5th. I shift at 4000 so I'm doing around 50 when I hit fifth and the wind noise is sufficient that I can't hear that one but all of the others are audible. I think I can hear all of the downshifts. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:53:39 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first Hi Tim, Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > Heck, Leland's over 100k on his PC, and it doesn't seem to have caused him any problems, to my knowledge. None whatsoever, as far as I can tell. I will turn 124000 Friday! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:03:18 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: gwta@voyager.net CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: [Fwd: [Wings] Fwd: How many _______ does it take to change a light bulb?] Hi Tommy, Thomas Ongstad wrote: > For the Canadians on the list . . . . . . That was funny. I also like that bottom line on that message: > The meek may very well inherit the Earth, > but they'll have to take the twisty roads by force. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:07:07 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Arvid L vik" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Waving :Shagging, no it should be SHAKING ! Hi Arvid, Arvid Løvik wrote: > Sorry!!!!! No apology necessary. I didn't catch the mistake and still understood exactly what you were saying. Besides, my Norwegian should be as good as your English is! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:05:16 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Arvid L vik" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Waving. Hi Arvid, Arvid Løvik wrote: > I tried a Harley once and do now understand why the Harly riders dont > wave.They are holding on to their shakig machines for dear life. Very good Arvid. I'm still laughing! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:12:11 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jim Randall CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Hi Jim, Jim Randall wrote: > Most "civilians" who don't like motorcycles will tell you that it's because 1) they're too loud and 2) the riders are "reckless". Recklessness is not confined to any one group but more often than not too-loud bikes are cruisers of one type or another (can't just blame the just Harleys even though they are well represented in this group). Too loud motorcycles are causing on and off-road areas to be closed to motorcycle use. In case you'd like a little proof, just try to ride your motorcycle to your $2K+/week condo at Wild Dunes Resort, Isle of Palms, SC - they won't let you in now matter how much you paid for the damn condo. Fortunately, I called ahead! > > This will not doubt be a revelation, but did you know Harleys don't have to be loud? Last summer I rode a week with my wife's cousin from CA who has a big touring Harley. This man rides across the USA at least once a year - he's a serious rider not just a "poser" and he, like most of us, detests loud bikes. His stock Harley pipes are quiet ... not PC-quiet, but quiet enough. > > IMO, the fundamental problem, is that law enforcement agencies don't enforce existing noise and vehicle safety laws. I realize they occasionally have more important things to do but too often they just turn their heads rather than confront loud bikers. Joe Citizen reacts by requesting more stringent laws, regualtions, restrictions, etc when in fact the existing ones would usually take care of the problem if enforced. > > Loud pipes cost rights! Hear, hear! -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:14:03 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Dan Messaros CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Hi Dan, Dan Messaros wrote: > Just a thought from the other side. A good thought from "the other side." -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:09:07 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: dana sawyer CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Clunking into first gear Hi Dana, dana sawyer wrote: > Years ago, in the early days of the HSTA, there was much discussion about > this subject. One suggestion was to consider changing to a lighter weight > oil. Those using 20W50 reported a marked improvement when switching to > 10W40 weight oil. I have used 10W40 weight oil in my motorcycles in recent > years, with no "clunking" problems. Very interesting. My mechanic does use 20W-50 at this time of year. I think he changes to 10W-40 in the summer. I'll try to remember to listen to the clunk then and see if it makes a difference on my PC. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:05:49 EST To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us, lcshepp@directcon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Control panel In a message dated 2/3/99 7:19:05 AM Central Standard Time, pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us writes: << I know it is water proof because I was caught on the road in in a horrific thunderstorm for 6 hours this past summer in the Adirondack Mts. and it did not leak >> 10-4 to that. I have had a CB radio (designed for inside a car) mounted in my fairing pocket for better than 3 years now and it aint got wet yet! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:20:31 EST To: nyfty@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: HID headlight bulbs In a message dated 2/3/99 10:25:01 PM Central Standard Time, nyfty@juno.com writes: << Has anyone found the new style headlight bulb (blue tint like the new Lincolns) that will work in our PC's? I would like to find one around the 80/100w size. I use a 55/100w now and find the low beam lacking at night. >> Shucks, Jim- why don't you just stick yourself a nice bright 90/130 baby in there and be done with it? I have had one in mine for about a year now and sure do enjoy the increase in candlepower. I REALLY enjoy it on those dark nights on country roads so that I can see a deer a loooong way ahead of me. Try it- you'll like it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAB04965; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 03:51:10 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: "'Steve Wilson'" Cc: "'X PC 800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Replacement Lamps Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:45:08 -0500 Steve, I have the list in the service manual. I want the list of bulb numbers as I would buy them from an auto-parts dealer. (For example #1157). The list in the manual only lists the bulbs by voltage and candlepower. Without removing all the bulbs to check physical size and base type, I'd like to put together a complete set of spares. If you have this list, please post it to the list so everyone can benefit. Thanks very much. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800W > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Wilson [SMTP:deere@linknet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:58 AM > To: Sattin, Harvey > Subject: Re: PC800: Replacement Lamps > > "Sattin, Harvey" wrote: > > > Does anyone have a list of all the replacement lamps (bulbs) for the PC? > > > > Are you looking for a list like in the service manual of bulb numbers used > in the bike? Or a list as in suppliers or dealers for replacements? > > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 7/98 SS1000 > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA05022 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:15:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Loud pipes save lives? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:09:41 -0500 Many of the Harleys around here are so loud they set off car alarms when they drive past. (The Harley rider with the tiny skull-cap helmet never waves.) I asked one of them about their helmet and pipes and he said, "So what. If I get caught it's a fifty-dollar fine. If I only get caught once a year it's worth it." ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA '98 PC800W (I'm using Microsoft Outlook. The spellchecker runs when I select "Send". The spellchecker stops at "Harleys" and suggests "Harelips".) > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Messaros [SMTP:snowmoer@juno.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:35 PM > To: jrandall@tricon.net > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save > lives? > > Hi Jim, > > As a Law Enforcement Officer with National Park Service, it is VERY hard > to enforce the decibel limit law. For it to stand up in court, at leat > the court I have to go through, I have to be certified in the use of a > decibel meeter. The meeter has to be tested and certified as accurate, > and the vehicle being tested has to pass me at a measured 100 feet for > the test to be good. That is why you see so many officers turning there > heads. > > I do not like it any more then you do, it drives me crazy! I wish the > folks sitting in the office would make it easier for me to do my job with > what is on the books now than making more regulations that I can not > enforce. > > Just a thought from the other side. > > Dan Messaros > Port Angeles, WA > > 1990 PC 800 14,900 Miles and sleeping for the winter > 1988 NX 650 > 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA05038; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:21:04 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: "'Dan Messaros'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:15:00 -0500 Dan, Thanks for your input on this subject. I always wondered why those laws aren't being enforced here, now I know. ~Harvey Sattin Brookline, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Messaros [SMTP:snowmoer@juno.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:35 PM > To: jrandall@tricon.net > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save > lives? > > Hi Jim, > > As a Law Enforcement Officer with National Park Service, it is VERY hard > to enforce the decibel limit law. For it to stand up in court, at leat > the court I have to go through, I have to be certified in the use of a > decibel meeter. The meeter has to be tested and certified as accurate, > and the vehicle being tested has to pass me at a measured 100 feet for > the test to be good. That is why you see so many officers turning there > heads. > > I do not like it any more then you do, it drives me crazy! I wish the > folks sitting in the office would make it easier for me to do my job with > what is on the books now than making more regulations that I can not > enforce. > > Just a thought from the other side. > > Dan Messaros > Port Angeles, WA > > 1990 PC 800 14,900 Miles and sleeping for the winter > 1988 NX 650 > 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 07:32:19 -0500 To: PC800 Listserver From: Bob Patterson Subject: PC800: clunk, ride & wave You can cure the transmission clunk, when you first start out, by holding the clutch lever in and blipping the throttle. This will cause the clutch plates to become un-stuck. I had a short ride in Northern Ohio yesterday. 43 degrees, sunshine and lots of pea gravel on the road .....very tortuous. I usually wave at everybody, even bicycles. In order to save face with myself when the other person doesn't respond I think to myself "they must be ....." Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Bumar" To: laitimg@tri-m.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Break & Clutch fluid Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 05:53:50 PST Oh Lai Timg wrote: "I spotted the fluid's color for both break and clutch is appeared differently. One is seems like darker than other. But the cover on indicated only "DOT 4" fluid to be used. I wonder can I just top up with any "DOT 4" fluid. Currently, I just brought a ESSO DOT 4 break fluid. Anyone has tried it ? Appreciate if you can provide me your xperience..." I have recently done a LOT of hydraulic-fluid related work on several of my vehicles. I changed the fluid on the brakes and clutch on my PC, I put new brake rotors on a 1985 S-10 I just bought, and I changed the brake fluid on my 1987 XR250 (just got that, too.) In every case, the old fluid was very dark, like black coffee. The PC is only about 20 months old and its fluid looked the best. I'm not sure how long it had been since the other 2 vehicle's fluid had been changed. My point? Your brake and clutch fluid is the same stuff. The difference is probably related to how much moisture and other crap the brake fluid absorbs when it's in your brake line or in your clutch line. After seeing how bad the old fluid looked compared to the honey color of new fluid, it makes a good argument for changing the hydraulic fluid according to reccomended maintenance schedules. Rich Bumar 96 PC800T Orlando, Florida ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 14:22:17 UT To: "Emile Nossin" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:06:24 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? What does IQ mean ? Emile Intelligence quotient. It's a measure of how smart you are. In theory. There are some people out there with high IQ's but have no common sense at all which I think if important. I used to have a test I should see if I still have it. It was kind of fun to do. Later Roger R -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:46:40 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: James S Nyffeler CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: HID headlight bulbs James S Nyffeler wrote: > Has anyone found the new style headlight bulb (blue tint like the new > Lincolns) that will work in our PC's? I would like to find one around > the 80/100w size. I use a 55/100w now and find the low beam lacking at > night. > I have had the blue bulb in my PC for almost a year. I like it for daytime use and hate it for nighttime. I am more visible in the day but at night I can't see nearly as well as with the stock bulb. PIAA makes a 60/55 bulb that is rated to have the same output as a 100/110. I bought a Narva super white yesterday, a 60/55 and haven't installed it yet. I will let you know as soon as I try it out. The PIAA's are about $35-$40 each and the Narva is about $20. Unless you only ride in the daylight, I would suggest that you don't waste your money on the blue bulbs. Last free advice is to check the alignment of your headlight. I adjusted mine about 20 turns to get the low beam out of the trees and on the road. It made an enormous difference. I no longer get flashed to turn my lights to low beam when they were on low already. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:51:59 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: "Sattin, Harvey" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Loud pipes save lives? "Sattin, Harvey" wrote: > > > (I'm using Microsoft Outlook. The spellchecker runs when I select "Send". > The spellchecker stops at "Harleys" and suggests "Harelips".) > My spell checker suggest "harlot". -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:58:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:58:35 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Break & Clutch fluid Hi, Oh Lai Timg: <> If you're seeing much color at all, it's time to change the fluid. DOT 4 fluid should be essentially clear. It's a good idea to change hydraulic fluid fairly frequently, because of its tendency to absorb water. My habit is to do this every 2 years. J. T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:58:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:58:36 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clunking into first gear Hi, All: Dana_Sawyer writes: << I have used 10W40 weight oil in my motorcycles in recent years, with no "clunking" problems.>> Hmmmm? I've used 10W40 in all my bikes for many years (well, not the Harley and the Triumph which have dry-sump lubrication--I mean all my Hondas). They all clunk going into first from neutral regardless of the type or weight of oil. Clunking is normal in a constant-mesh/shift-dog transmission, and it doesn't hurt a thing. In fact, if you did stop the mainshaft's rotation, by using very light oil and freeing the clutch plates completely, there's a good chance you would not be able to shift into first at all. There has to be some relative motion between the sliding gear and the fixed gear if the dogs and their corresponding recesses are to align and engage. J. T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "arjan andriessen" To: "pc800 lijst" Subject: Fw: PC800: RE: Loud pipes save lives? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:07:30 +0100 Well about the spell checker suggestions about harley, my dutch spel checker replaced harley with haarlem Haarlem is a Dutch town close to Amsterdam. A.Andriessen Pc800 '89 Skippy Bike -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Steve Wilson Aan: Sattin, Harvey CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Datum: donderdag 4 februari 1999 15:47 Onderwerp: Re: PC800: RE: Loud pipes save lives? "Sattin, Harvey" wrote: > > > (I'm using Microsoft Outlook. The spellchecker runs when I select "Send". > The spellchecker stops at "Harleys" and suggests "Harelips".) > My spell checker suggest "harlot". name="Part.001" filename="Part.001" Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 name="Part.002" filename="Part.002" To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: HID headlight bulbs Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:09:47 +0100 I mounted a MEGALUX 55/60 Watt bulb on my PC and the night became suddenly DAY. Here is my (Das Motorrads) rapport on the different H4 bulbs on the market (legal), that I submitted to group in December 98: After I had mounted the new lamp, I had to turn up the lamp! The new bulb was so much brighter that it nearly blinded me . The light is much whiter too. In the latest MOTORRAD Magazine the y had a test over differerent bulbs. The test was done in Hella's test laboratory in Lippstadt, Germany.There where 4 different type lamps tested and here are the results: H4 12 V 60/55 W standard lamp: for measurement sake this was set at 100% effective light. H4 12V 60/55 W Allwheather lamp: Have a light coating for better contrast. This was not noticed (not measurable or subjectively) in the test.Effectiveness: 98.5 % H4 12V 60/55 W Heavy Duty lamp: Have a longer life ,because of thicker windings. Working temperature below the standard lamp. Effect: not as white and 85 % . H4 12W 60/55 W Premium/Super lamp: The new Premium or Super lamp (different names for the different manufactureres) promises circa 30% more light than normal lamps. The photometrical measurements shows 128% over the normal lamp. In the photochannel where the mesurements was done , it proved that it was superior ,with a powerful whitish light. Motorrads Fazit: After both the subjective and objective tests done, they recommend the Heavy Duty lamp for people driving mostly in daylight. Because of the longevity of this lamp. For thos e who prefer better light over longevity, and drives when its dark, the new Premium/Super lamp is warmly recommended. Greetings Arvid -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:24:21 +0100 Emile, i do beleive that you know it! I did not and had to search for it on the net. I found a site with a very difficult test. I tried it and got 21 ! Is that very good ???? Maybe You would try it and give me the results. Perhaps You even reach 25 !!!! Try it at : http://www.iqtest.com/iqtestprep1.html Regards Arvid >What does IQ mean ? > >Emile > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 18:07:36 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: "Arvid L=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F8vik"?= Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:51:39 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ There is a section on the web site that says if English (American) is not your native langauge then the results could be incorrect. My score was a 136. Not bad. Roger R Chaska, MN USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:10:34 -0500 Subject: Re(2): PC800: Control panel To: lcshepp@directcon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) lcshepp@directcon.net writes: >Hi Tim, > >PC800 Rider wrote: > >> Mine must be different then because I have a rubber gasket around >> the edge of the door. I know it is water proof because I was >caught >> on the road in in a horrific thunderstorm for 6 hours this past >> summer in the Adirondack Mts. and it did not leak. I don't >remember >> what I had inside there now, but I do remember remarking to my >> riding partner that it was dry. I thik it was my leather sunglass >> case. > >I was wrong about the gasket. I just went and checked and mine >has a >thin foam gasket around the edge of it. I carry my spare >headlight bulb >in mine and I have to move that box out of the pocket when I wash >the >bike or the box will get soaked. So the gasket on mine isn't >doing much >good. Does yours fit fairly tightly? The cover on mine is quite >loose. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >123,000 miles > > The cover on mine fits securely, no movement when it is latched. The seal is not foam on mine. It is a hollow rubber tube type gasket all the way around the underside of the door. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:33:03 -0900 From: jgoula CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: HID headlight bulbs James S Nyffeler wrote: > > Has anyone found the new style headlight bulb (blue tint like the new > Lincolns) that will work in our PC's? I would like to find one around > the 80/100w size. I use a 55/100w now and find the low beam lacking at > night. The new luxury cars that have these lamps do not use "blue" bulbs, but HID lamps. I have a "blue" bulb in mine that Philips gave me. I use it mainly to set myself apart from other vehicles around me while commutng, and since when I ride (i.e. the summer) we have oodles of daylight, nightime visibility is not a factor. I did, however, see in the Feb. issue of motorcyclist an ad for a true High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamp for bikes. It has an H4 adaptor so it can be used with the stock reflector and lens. The box that drives it (generating what, 20,000 volts?) is attached to the bulb with a short cable. It should pose no problem to mount on it on the PC. Just bring $395.00 US to the table. (better than the $1,200.00 PIAA wants for theirs). -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: HID headlight bulbs Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:44:34 -0800 The HID bulbs do not have a filament, they are as the acronym suggests High Intensity Discharge. The bulb is basicly like the flash tube on a camera, only it is designed to run continuously. The bulb requires a high voltage generator/ballast (in the hundreds of volts) to operate it. Currently there is no easy way to retrofit these lamps to autos much less motorcycles. The reason auto manufacturers are trying these lamps is that they require less current to produce the same amount of light as a standard halogen lamp, thereby running cooler. Since the bulb runs cooler, auto manufacturers can make the headlamp shell assemblies smaller. Aftermarket "tinted" standard halogen lamps do not produce the same light as the HID lamps, often producing less light than a "non tinted" halogen lamp. There has been discussion on this list before on fitting these "tinted" bulbs. Some one mentioned that a rider in Washington put one on a Gold Wing and was ticketed for it. Check out the advertizing on http://sylvania.com They also mention that they have a "tinted" dicroric lamp that produces a simuliar light, but they advertize it more for "styling" enhancement rather than any improvement in night vision. They only come in the standard 55/60w strength and sulvania states they have the same light output as a standard H4 halogen bulb. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: James S Nyffeler[SMTP:nyfty@juno.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:21 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: HID headlight bulbs > > Has anyone found the new style headlight bulb (blue tint like the new > Lincolns) that will work in our PC's? I would like to find one around > the 80/100w size. I use a 55/100w now and find the low beam lacking at > night. > > > Jim Nyffeler > nyfty@juno.com > 89 PC800 "Nyfty" > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: "Clunk" into first Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:23:00 -0000 And Leland uses Mineral Oil... no need to waste money on Synthetic Oil on a PC800 Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: Leland C. Sheppard > To: TClevenger@paypros.com > Cc: Pacific Coast Owners > Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first > Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 5:53 AM > > Hi Tim, > > Tim J. Clevenger wrote: > > > Heck, Leland's over 100k on his PC, and it doesn't seem to have caused him any problems, to my knowledge. > > None whatsoever, as far as I can tell. I will turn 124000 Friday! > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast > "Black Beauty" > 123,000 miles > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:40:53 +0100 >Emile, >i do beleive that you know it! You're right. Thanks to all serious PCers for taking the bate. I had a good laugh about it....LOLLOTFCMAO : )=))) >I did not and had to search for it on the net. I found a site with a very >difficult test. I tried it and got 21 ! Is that very good ???? > >Maybe You would try it and give me the results. Perhaps You even reach 25 >!!!! > Try it at : http://www.iqtest.com/iqtestprep1.html > I will. Emile http://fly.to/emile >Regards >Arvid > > >>What does IQ mean ? >> >>Emile >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:48:59 +0100 I also wave to riders on training / lesson bikes. Normally they're much to nervous to wave back, usually they don't even see me, but on one occasion the trainee saw me (I think it was a girl, not implying anything here offcourse). She waved back at me but forgot she was waiting at the intersection for me to pass with the bike in gear. So she let go of the clutch, waved, and jumped forward a meter while stalling the bike. It was hilarious ! Emile http://fly.to/emile > I do. If you are on a motorized two wheels I figure you deserve a wave. I even wave >to cops on bikes (for the same reason - they are on two motorized wheels). I can tell >that the "scooter-types" get no respect; they always act startled when I wave. > >-- >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >123,000 miles > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: Waving Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:08:15 -0800 The following edited as appropriate. -----Original Message----- Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back 10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture ... 9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip ... 8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm ... 7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him... 6. The expresso machine just finished ... 5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved ... 4. Was in a three-way conference call with stock broker and accessories dealer ... 3. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard ... 2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system ... And the Number One reason BMW riders don't wave back: 1. They couldn't see through the glare from the chromed-dash accents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'Leland C. Sheppard'" , Ed Roberts Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800: Wanna win a Harley?? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:11:39 -0800 Funny thing - that's not what I recall Leland saying earlier regarding HD riders. -----Original Message----- From: Leland C. Sheppard [SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] I do. If you are on a motorized two wheels I figure you deserve a wave. I even wave to cops on bikes (for the same reason - they are on two motorized wheels). I can tell that the "scooter-types" get no respect; they always act startled when I wave. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:15:10 -0500 From: cen13504 To: Dan Messaros CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: strobes boundary="------------F3DF45012A7591FCFCB94C69" --------------F3DF45012A7591FCFCB94C69 List members: Strobes light: The answer from the TN Highway Patrol is NO. Only emergency vehicles, mail carriers and school buses are aloud to use strobe lights. Certain industries use strobe lights on large over the road vehicles. According to the officer all vehicle using strobe lights should have state approval and registration for the use of this type of light. Oh well it seemed like a good idea to me. For Sale one unused "STROBE LIGHT" Ha Ha I will mount it on my ski boat. Anyone who the rules of the water.. Just kidding. Question: I am putting my wrecked PC back together. It looks odd in the nude. What mechanical parts should I check while I have easy access? Kenneth Winter East TN --------------F3DF45012A7591FCFCB94C69 name="KLW.vcf" Content-Description: Card for cen13504 filename="KLW.vcf" begin:vcard n:; tel;work:1-800-264-6757 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:KLW@centuryinter.net note;quoted-printable:Call if you have any questions or comments=0D=0A=0D=0AEast TN=0D=0A=0D=0A90 PC "Second Chance"=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Isuzu Trooper=0D=0A=0D=0A87 Toyota RV " The Turtle"=0D=0A=0D=0A97 Gary Fisher -Joshua Z2=0D=0A=0D=0A95 Cannondale Super V-2000 end:vcard --------------F3DF45012A7591FCFCB94C69-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:32:31 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Coppola" To: "PC800 listserver" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:36:41 -0500 That was a fun little test, haven't had to think hard in a while! Got a 152, not too bad at all! (or was that a 15.2?) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: Arvid Løvik Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 12:58 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ >There is a section on the web site that says if English (American) is not >your native langauge then the results could be incorrect. > >My score was a 136. > >Not bad. > >Roger R >Chaska, MN >USA > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:06:45 -0000 Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of Britain. Here we look at each other and nod... Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Waving > Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:48 PM > > I also wave to riders on training / lesson bikes. Normally they're > much to nervous to wave back, usually they don't even see me, > but on one occasion the trainee saw me (I think it was a girl, not > implying anything here offcourse). She waved back at me but > forgot she was waiting at the intersection for me to pass with > the bike in gear. So she let go of the clutch, waved, and jumped > forward a meter while stalling the bike. It was hilarious ! > > Emile > http://fly.to/emile > > > I do. If you are on a motorized two wheels I figure you deserve a wave. I even wave > >to cops on bikes (for the same reason - they are on two motorized wheels). I can tell > >that the "scooter-types" get no respect; they always act startled when I wave. > > > >-- > >Leland > >'94 Pacific Coast > >"Black Beauty" > >123,000 miles > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:08:51 -0500 From: Ed Roberts To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC 800 for sale There's a 95 PC800 for sale in Beckly WV with 7K on it. Posted Feb. 4th, no price given. Ad is at: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/classified/newse.html Ed -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:15:34 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Harley Gang Let me relate a experience i had many years ago. I was on my Honda CB350, traveling on I-94 towards Madison,WI. I was catching up to a Harley Group/Gang of 20 to 30 riders. What a sight & what a rumble/noise. They were going slower than me, so i started to pass them. Imagine that, me wearing my white helmet on my little Honda. The 2 riders at the rear did not seem happy about my starting to pass them & their group & i became a little concerned, but kept going. It took awhile for me to get past all these bikers. With 1 eye on the road,i was checking them all out with the other. I waived at this group 2 or 3 times: if i remember correctly, only a woman passenger waived back. She probably wishes she hadn't. This group was not the friendly type & I felt pretty small. For all i know they probably thought i was giving them the finger. Just as i passed the Leader of the Pack, { i was watching him } He pulled the entire group over to the shoulder to a dead stop. I never understood that. Needless to say i kept going. :-} It's been my experience that 50% of the time HD riders will wave back. but rarely will they initiate the wave. So, anyway, my 2 $. If i feel like waving, i wave & i don't expect a wave in return. If i don't return your wave, i'm too busy with cages, road debris, bad mood, or didn't see you. My 97's Left pocket does not leak either. I was surprised to learn it didn't. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ E-mail Prayer Requests to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'DavidAklein@webtv.net'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Harley Gang Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:21:59 -0800 My group of about 6 sport riders came upon a group of about 20 HD riders. When they became aware of our presence they made a single column allowing us to pass without crossing into the oncoming lane. We waved on the way by and to my knowledge they all returned our waves. This was on the western side of the Sierra's in the gold country of Calif. Just a good experience to temper all the bad experiences everyone else seems to have. -Grindle. -----Original Message----- From: DavidAklein@webtv.net [SMTP:DavidAklein@webtv.net] Let me relate a experience i had many years ago. I was on my Honda CB350, traveling on I-94 towards Madison,WI. I was catching up to a Harley Group/Gang of 20 to 30 riders. What a sight & what a rumble/noise. They were going slower than me, so i started to pass them. Imagine that, me wearing my white helmet on my little Honda. The 2 riders at the rear did not seem happy about my starting to pass them & their group & i became a little concerned, but kept going. It took awhile for me to get past all these bikers. With 1 eye on the road,i was checking them all out with the other. I waived at this group 2 or 3 times: if i remember correctly, only a woman passenger waived back. She probably wishes she hadn't. This group was not the friendly type & I felt pretty small. For all i know they probably thought i was giving them the finger. Just as i passed the Leader of the Pack, { i was watching him } He pulled the entire group over to the shoulder to a dead stop. I never understood that. Needless to say i kept going. :-} It's been my experience that 50% of the time HD riders will wave back. but rarely will they initiate the wave. So, anyway, my 2 $. If i feel like waving, i wave & i don't expect a wave in return. If i don't return your wave, i'm too busy with cages, road debris, bad mood, or didn't see you. My 97's Left pocket does not leak either. I was surprised to learn it didn't. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ E-mail Prayer Requests to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Ed Roberts" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 for sale Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:49:15 -0500 Beckley is about 45 minutes from my home... if anyone want me to check it out for them.... right up I-77. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ed Roberts To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: PC800: PC 800 for sale >There's a 95 PC800 for sale in Beckly WV with 7K on it. Posted Feb. 4th, >no price given. Ad is at: > http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/classified/newse.html > >Ed >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Dan Messaros'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:40:51 -0500 I understand the problem. There was a time when a LEO could just issue a = citation for "too loud" but now the perps will challange that arbitrary = assessment and therefore some type of quantitative measure is required. = Maybe we should just let you shoot them - that would proabably be easier = to defend! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dan Messaros [SMTP:snowmoer@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:35 PM To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? Hi Jim, As a Law Enforcement Officer with National Park Service, it is VERY hard to enforce the decibel limit law. For it to stand up in court, at leat the court I have to go through, I have to be certified in the use of a decibel meeter. The meeter has to be tested and certified as accurate, and the vehicle being tested has to pass me at a measured 100 feet for the test to be good. That is why you see so many officers turning there heads.=20 I do not like it any more then you do, it drives me crazy! I wish the folks sitting in the office would make it easier for me to do my job = with what is on the books now than making more regulations that I can not enforce. Just a thought from the other side. Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 Miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's=20 On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:07:39 -0500 Jim Randall writes: >Most "civilians" who don't like motorcycles will tell you that it's =3D >because 1) they're too loud and 2) the riders are "reckless". =3D >Recklessness is not confined to any one group but more often than not=20 >=3D >too-loud bikes are cruisers of one type or another (can't just blame=20 >the =3D >just Harleys even though they are well represented in this group). Too=20 >=3D >loud motorcycles are causing on and off-road areas to be closed to =3D >motorcycle use. In case you'd like a little proof, just try to ride=20 >your =3D >motorcycle to your $2K+/week condo at Wild Dunes Resort, Isle of=20 >Palms, =3D >SC - they won't let you in now matter how much you paid for the damn = =3D >condo. Fortunately, I called ahead! > >This will not doubt be a revelation, but did you know Harleys don't=20 >have =3D >to be loud? Last summer I rode a week with my wife's cousin from CA=20 >who =3D >has a big touring Harley. This man rides across the USA at least once=20 >a =3D >year - he's a serious rider not just a "poser" and he, like most of=20 >us, =3D >detests loud bikes. His stock Harley pipes are quiet ... not PC-quiet,=20 >=3D >but quiet enough.=3D20 > >IMO, the fundamental problem, is that law enforcement agencies don't = =3D >enforce existing noise and vehicle safety laws. I realize they =3D >occasionally have more important things to do but too often they just=20 >=3D >turn their heads rather than confront loud bikers. Joe Citizen reacts=20 >by =3D >requesting more stringent laws, regualtions, restrictions, etc when in=20 >=3D >fact the existing ones would usually take care of the problem if =3D >enforced. > >Loud pipes cost rights! > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net >http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roger A. Pattee [SMTP:rpattee@g-net.net] >Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:34 AM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save=20 >lives? > >On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500, TommyTeal wrote: > >>Leland C. Sheppard wrote: >> >> >>> owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud=20 >pipes =3D >saves >>> lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as far=20 >as =3D >I am >>> concerned.=3D20 >> >> >>I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud pipes >>saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They=20 >never >>see the humor in that. >> >>Makes me giggle, every time. >> >___________________________ >I also get a kick out of the statement that loud pipes saves lives.. > >Hell, they don't see me when I come driving down the road, with siren >blaring; headlight wigwags flashing; corner strobes strobing; visibar >activated; whatever else kind of light being lit and >flashing/strobing/pulsating, heh.....yeah, right...loud pipes saves >lives....(snicker) > > >Roger ><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones >we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=3D20 >the evil are here. > >Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=3D20 >of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=3D20 >the next man that dies. ><*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. > >http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of=20 >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of=20 >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2NDJ5ZV; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:11:48 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:07:53 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Harley Gang On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:15:34 -0500 (EST) DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) writes: >Let me relate a experience i had many years ago. I was on my Honda >CB350, traveling on I-94 towards Madison,WI. So, Before Monica came into my life I rode the MIGHTY Helix. And a fine machine it is. I was going West on 7 th street in St. Paul, Minnesota going generally toward the airport. I was stopped at a red light when I heard a mighty roar coming from behind. It was about forty Harlys. They all had to stop behind me as the other lane was full of cages and whatever. The light changed, I pulled away with all 250 cc just a snorting'. It took about two city blocks before the gang could lane shift and pass me. I took the opportunity to please the sidewalk crowd by standing up and waving (see this... my little Helix leading 40 Harlys.) When the leader passed he gave me a smart military salute and I returned the same. The gang then waved on the way past and I held one hand high and somewhat stationary in Queenly fashion (sorry Job if I offend) and almost fell off my ride from laughing so hard. \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jerri Grindle To: "'rodneycarey@juno.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Harley Gang Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:14:44 -0800 That one takes the cake so far!!! Great story!!! -----Original Message----- From: rodneycarey@juno.com [SMTP:rodneycarey@juno.com] Before Monica came into my life I rode the MIGHTY Helix. And a fine machine it is. I was going West on 7 th street in St. Paul, Minnesota going generally toward the airport. I was stopped at a red light when I heard a mighty roar coming from behind. It was about forty Harlys. They all had to stop behind me as the other lane was full of cages and whatever. The light changed, I pulled away with all 250 cc just a snorting'. It took about two city blocks before the gang could lane shift and pass me. I took the opportunity to please the sidewalk crowd by standing up and waving (see this... my little Helix leading 40 Harlys.) When the leader passed he gave me a smart military salute and I returned the same. The gang then waved on the way past and I held one hand high and somewhat stationary in Queenly fashion (sorry Job if I offend) and almost fell off my ride from laughing so hard. \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bradspapa@aol.com for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:18:10 +1900 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:18:10 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: pc800 for sale... hey troops... just a gentle reminder to all you good folks...and your friends and relatives too... my 1998 pc is for sale. bot it new last june, rode it 14,400 wonderful miles, all service done at honda dlrshps, pristine condition. asking $5500. will throw in tank bag plus official hondaline trunk liners at no extra charge. don hamilton columbus, ohio 614-888-0908 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Imapcrider@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:19:36 EST To: pcsg@mistral.co.uk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: "Clunk" into first In a message dated 2/4/99 12:48:36 PM Central Standard Time, pcsg@mistral.co.uk writes: << And Leland uses Mineral Oil... no need to waste money on Synthetic Oil on a PC800 >> Sorry Job, but I am going to stay with my Mobil 1. I suppose that it is entirely possible that I am indeed "wasting" my money putting the best oil there is in my bike. But my bike is worth it and the cost difference is negligible. Besides, after 178,000 miles, who can tell me that I should use a cheaper oil? Don't mess with success. David Little 94 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:04:12 EST To: lovik@writeme.com, Emile@Cybercomm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ In a message dated 2/4/99 11:29:40 AM Central Standard Time, lovik@writeme.com writes: << I found a site with a very difficult test. I tried it and got 21 ! Is that very good ???? >> You got a 21 on your IQ test? Damn! Your are already at the Harley level. Keep up the good work. Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2NEJQR5; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:29:03 EST To: vaugh015@tc.umn.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:22:43 -0600 Subject: PC800:motorcycle show I will be at the Minneapolis Convention Center at about 10 AM and I will be wearing a denim shirt with Taz (the Tasmanian Devil) on the back. Greg; Perhaps we could meet for coffee sometime. Let me know off-line. Thanks We'll Scratch you later. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:32:59 -0500 From: Dave Bartlett To: Pacific Coast Mailing List Subject: PC800: '96 PC800 for sale... Well... this is it... I am going to sell my '96 Pacific Coast since I am looking into an Interstate Valkyrie... and although I really like my PC... I don't have the garage space for 4 bikes... especially 2 Valkyries. So.. here is my PC.... It is a '96 Pacific Coast.. ~17K miles... I have speakers in the fairing.. if you don't like them, then I have a new replacement plastic. I have added an E-Meter.... Here is the short description.... Leading the World in compact digital battery instrumentation, the E-Meter combines the accuracy of a digital display with the ease of use of a Bar Graph Display. The E-Meter display's Volts, Amps, Amp Hours, Kilowatt-Hours, Time Remaining, historical battery information, and more. All of this from an easy to read instrument that fits in a standard 2" (52mm) hole. Priced at about US $200.00, the E-Meter represents true state of the art DC Instrumentation at a very affordable price. The URL for the company which makes it is http://www.cruisingequip.com This is mounted in the fairing. I also have a set of 55W driving lights mounted on the crash bar covers which work fairly well... they are operated by a lighted switch in the fairing. The amplifier (in the trunk) is operated by a lighted switch in the fairing also. Also.... The JC Whitney lighted combination clock and voltmeter that has been discussed on this list... I added an accessory plug in the fairing... works great for a GPS or walkman or cellphone. A battery charger/tender plug is one of the passenger plugs for easy charging. A Maxia GIVI box with mount.... The MCSetup cruise control... their URL is "http://www.mccruise.com". I believe that is all I have modified.. it works great... I have kept the oil changed... I still have it under prepaid maintenance which covers everything except tires and any modifications.. it covers brakes, oil changes... etc..etc.. until 7/2000. It doesn't have the stock grips... I added foam ones after removing the throttle lock.. I am asking $4000 for it.... I did drop it on it's side once... I replaced the plastic that was damaged. I do have a couple of headlight bulbs that will go with it.. I don't really have a use for the bulbs if I don't have the bike. I really like it.. it was my first bike.. but if you don't ride a bike, then there is no reason to keep it. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Email: dlb@cisco.com | '86 V65 Magna | | System Administrator | | '96 Pacific Coast | | | | '98 Valkyrie | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger A. Pattee) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Honda Parts ordered, and delivered Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:38:21 GMT I think we had mentioned this before, but I went and ordered the Hondaline PC trunk lights, and Hondaline PC bra. I ordered these before my heart attack (19 Jan), and just remembered today to check on them...both items were in; they had called and talked to the wife, who advised them to hold them for me. Guess she forgot to tell me they were in. Anyway......it took about 2 1/2 weeks to get the trunk lights, the bra was in within 4 days. Just incase anyone is thinking about ordering them..I have the Hondaline pull tickets (warehouse), they didn't take all that long to get. Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:00:10 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Tech Manuals for Sale Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:00:32 -0500 X-MailServer: Eureka! Gold Internet Server (v2.4 Build 1033) Hi Listers, I found a nice gent who advertises in the back of the Motorcycle Shopper who sells older motorcycle parts, but he also has Factory technical manuals both new and used for many different bikes. In particular he has 3, that's THREE Honda PC800 factory technical manuals for $25. each. This may include shipping. He has 3 NX650 manuals, and many more including all the Honda Parts Manuals from 1964-1977. I'm sure he's got all the books for Sabres and Interceptors. He had one NT650 honda Hawk book. ($25.) He also has Kaw, Suz, and some Yam books too. He's a nice older man who doesn't use the internet so snail mail him or Call. Bob Skelton 15020 Oak Tree Dr. Naples, FL 34114 Tele: 941-775-8012. Whatever your manual or technical service bulletin needs check with Bob! Nice guy and I should mention he's got about 150 bikes parted out. Randy Ashurst, 89PC800, 90 Suzuki VX800 Brunswick, GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:12:09 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Harley Riders Anyone besides me notice that Harley Riders {most of them it seems} don't wear Rainsuits? Why do you think that is? I wonder what Harley Riders say about us Honda Riders?? Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ E-mail Prayer Requests to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:00:00 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Richard A. Nadeau" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel Hi Richard, Richard A. Nadeau wrote: > You must have way too much time on your hands to post so many useless > messages. Thank you. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:15:16 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jerri Grindle CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Harley Gang Hi Jerri, Jerri Grindle wrote: > My group of about 6 sport riders came upon a group of about 20 HD riders. > When they became aware of our presence they made a single column allowing us > to pass without crossing into the oncoming lane. We waved on the way by and > to my knowledge they all returned our waves. This was on the western side > of the Sierra's in the gold country of Calif. Strange. The gold country is where I live and do most of my riding and have most of my bad experiences with HD riders... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:58:26 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: PC800 Rider CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Control panel Hi Tim, PC800 Rider wrote: > The cover on mine fits securely, no movement when it is latched. > The seal is not foam on mine. It is a hollow rubber tube type > gasket all the way around the underside of the door. Interesting. They must have changed the thing a lot after '94 given the experience you and Russ have had. My gasket goes all the way around but it is strictly a token. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 123,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:41:11 +0100 >Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of Britain. >Here we look at each other and nod... >Job Sussex Coast Holland is the single most densly populated country in the world next to Bangladesh and I life in the most crowded part of Holland but yet I can't agree with your statement that waving is dangerous. Waving isn't dangerous....crashing is. Whether you're riding, driving or flying you just have to use common sense. The PC is perfectly rideable with one hand, no problem. Need your clutch --> nod. Need your vision in front of you --> act like a Harley rider. If you don't know how to prioritize this stuff, don't ride. Simple.... Riding a motorcycle isn't dangerous right up to the point that you forget it's dangerous...... YMMV blah blah.... ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... ...crashing is........" http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:32:09 +0100 >Emile, >i do beleive that you know it! >I did not and had to search for it on the net. I found a site with a very >difficult test. I tried it and got 21 ! Is that very good ???? >Maybe You would try it and give me the results. Perhaps You even reach 25 >!!!! > Try it at : http://www.iqtest.com/iqtestprep1.html >Arvid I must admit English isn't my native language, otherwise I would have done better. I had to guess how much a dime and a nickel are and the pounds and ounces question was difficult also. I also needed more than the default 13 minutes, 17 in fact. So I only got 155. It does beat 21 though. Emile http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by trout.brandywine.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58341U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:56:48 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: gunship@90.0.0.1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Harley Riders Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:48 -0500 I'm the vice president of my local ABATE chapter. Most of the people ride HDs with a fair number of ricers. They call me 'Captain Kirk' because my PC looks like a spaceship to them. Remember, they voted me in KNOWING what I ride. IF YOU AIN'T SPECTRE... Rich Silva >Anyone besides me notice that Harley Riders {most of them it seems} >don't wear Rainsuits? Why do you think that is? >I wonder what Harley Riders say about us Honda Riders?? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:08:24 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Wesley cc: PC800 Subject: PC800: Waving & Harley's ... Living in Northern California, I find that a lot of riders are very pleasant and wave back. Some days I tell myself that I'm going to wave at all passing riders - even when I get snubbed. Having two bikes, I do notice a bit of a differnce with differnce of riders who will wave/wave back. Generally, most sport riders seem to wave. Gold wing type touring bike riders usually wave when I'm on wither bike, but sometimes they do not wave when I'm on my Speed Triple. BMW riders generaly always wave to me on both bikes - I think there is a close association with Trimph and BMW in the Bay area. As for Harley riders, I think my ratio of Wave per Harley (W/H) depends upon the area. If I'm in a high yuppie concetrated area or on back road day trips in the middle of no where, the wave back ratio is higher. I think the W/H is lower for folks in local communitie. Areas like Danville and San Juan Bautista have a higher concentration of W/H for me. It is really frustrating when I wave, or am waved at by a Harley rider, then snubbed by the next Harley, and I ignore the wave of the next friendly Harley rider. As a final thought on waving, I notice that commnites with high concentration of motorcycles (san Francisco) or areas with a high concentration of squid (Malibu beach/Greater LA) tend to also have also have low wave ratios. Ok, I'm a bit biased now. After growing up in Los Angeles riding motorcycles, and then relocating to Northern California, I find that Northern California is the most rider friendly place (vis-a-vis other motorcyclists) that I've ever experienced. Best Regards, MikeW ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 Triumph T509 - http://www.bizsoft.com/triumph/ 1998 Honda Pacific Coast - http://www.bizsoft.com/pc800/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Waving Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:11:46 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In tighter quarters, I wave without removing my palm from the handgrip. Not as visible, but it still works. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PCSG Ltd.[SMTP:pcsg@mistral.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 2:06 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of Britain. Here we look at each other and nod... Job Sussex Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:17:38 -0000 I hope to score a maximum 9 when I get the time to take the test. Has anyone beaten this record? Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: RVPC800@aol.com > To: lovik@writeme.com; Emile@Cybercomm.nl; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Wanna win ...??Use Your IQ > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 12:04 AM > > In a message dated 2/4/99 11:29:40 AM Central Standard Time, lovik@writeme.com > writes: > > << I found a site with a very > difficult test. I tried it and got 21 ! Is that very good ???? > >> > You got a 21 on your IQ test? Damn! Your are already at the Harley level. Keep > up the good work. > > Russ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: Waving Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:40:42 -0000 I follow the training and guidelines by: 1. RoSPA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents) Advanced Motorcyling Tests; 2. Institute of Adavnced Motorcyclists Tests. Candidates follow 'Motorcycle Roadcraft', The Police Rider's Handbook and take several hours of training under the supervision of a qualified Observer. To pass tests by any of these organisations, one need to pass a 90 minute test covering all types of roads, followed by a Class 1 Police Examiner. Only time the rider is allowed to take the hand off the handlebars is only in an emergency, such as to give hands signals in the event of failure by indicators. I personally have had an accident-free record of over 20 years (motorcycles, cars, hang gliders, aircraft groups a A, D and SLMG) and in over 30 countries. So, I think my hands are where they should be and my common sense and priorities are fuctioning okay. Otherwise, I would not have passed the RoSPA Test which need to be taken every 3 years to keep it valid. With all due respect to you Emile, I feel it will be safer for me to ignore your 'top of the head' remarks. Job Chithalan Sussex Coast ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Waving > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:41 AM > > >Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of Britain. > >Here we look at each other and nod... > >Job Sussex Coast > > Holland is the single most densly populated country in the world > next to Bangladesh and I life in the most crowded part of Holland > but yet I can't agree with your statement that waving is dangerous. > Waving isn't dangerous....crashing is. Whether you're riding, driving > or flying you just have to use common sense. The PC is perfectly > rideable with one hand, no problem. Need your clutch --> nod. > Need your vision in front of you --> act like a Harley rider. > If you don't know how to prioritize this stuff, don't ride. Simple.... > Riding a motorcycle isn't dangerous right up to the point that you > forget it's dangerous...... > YMMV blah blah.... > ___ > [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" > [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > > "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... > ...crashing is........" > > http://fly.to/emile > ICQ 17992318 > Emile@Cybercomm.nl > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: scot.piper@hscpoly.com Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:05:44 -0500 Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:06:13 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Quick hello Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:10:44 -0500 Hi PC800 group! I have been off the list for a while and probably missed a lot of good information. The fever is building to get the PC800 and ride. It's early Feb in MI and pretty cold, but I've ridden the last 2 Sundays "just to charge the battery" - so I told my wife. My Honda dealer says they can order K177 tires directly from Honda. $132 for the rear tire. I thought the K177 was no longer? $132 is pretty steep - can do Metzlers for that. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Also, what if I run a K177 front and Metzler rear? A lot of miles left on my front K177. I received a note from Andy at Kisan saying they perfected the headlight modulator. It's a P115W modified version. Does anyone have one yet? I have 2 "early release" Kisan units I'm returning for a new one. How about the Kisan tail light modulator? I've seen the Priority Plus unit, but curious about the Kisan unit. I believe the Kisan unit does NOT turn on the amber running lights like Priority Plus does - which is an excellent advantage in daylight (to have the amber lights on). You can reply to me at my new e-mail (srm@isd.net) for specific comments on the topics above. Thanks. BTW, if you are looking for a new ISP, try www.isd.net out of Mpls. So far so good. $15/mo for 150 hrs. Give them my e-mail address, ISD gives a 10% discount for every new member signup. Ride Red. Scot Piper '89 Pacific Coast "Venus" 21,500 (S)miles ----------------------------------------- *********************************************************** This email transmission and any files that accompany it may contain sensitive information belonging to the sender. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email transmission in error, please immediately notify the Security Administrator. Security.Administrator@dowcorning.com *********************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:26:05 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Welcome back Scot. scot.piper@hscpoly.com wrote: > Hi PC800 group! I have been off the list for a while and probably missed a > lot of good information. The fever is building to get the PC800 and ride. > It's early Feb in MI and pretty cold, but I've ridden the last 2 Sundays > "just to charge the battery" - so I told my wife. IMHO, if you can ride, even if it is just to charge the battery, it isn't "too cold" :) (Said he, sitting at -50°F and ice fog so thick you need an ice pick to chisel your way through to go to work). -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:05:20 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello To: scot.piper@hscpoly.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) scot.piper@hscpoly.com writes: >It's early Feb in MI That's funny, it's early Feb in NY also:-) Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 1999 20:15:52 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: General plea for California or Oregon info.... Date: Fri, 05 Feb 99 19:21:25 PST Hi Guys: I am getting close to wrapping up details on my next trip, heading for = South Africa about April 1st for 2 months of riding, then on to Los Angel= es to ride to Canada and back for 2/3 months. I am a bit wary of roadbloc= ks re mo/cycle registration in California, as in 95 I had trouble with = that without a USA Social Security no. NOW they have mandatory insurance,= also. Does anyone know if i will be able to... 1) Register in MY name at DMV office holding a Australia AND Internationa= l Drivers License? 2) Find a Calif company that will sell me liability insurance to allow = above registration? I expect to buy a older low value mid-power bike that would NOT pose a = high risk from the ins. co's viewpoint. Any suggestions of such machines = at relatives or behind barns most welcome. In fact, I would be prepared = to fly to another state to ease this rego/Ins. problem if someone knew = of a good bike... I know these may be HARD answers to find, but very important to my plans,= and all help very much appreciated. Thanks......Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! www.powerup.com.au/~ultspnch Stories of M/C Travel! www.photoloft.com Search "motorcycles" for pics of trips. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:30:14 -0900 From: jgoula To: Heather Wells , Cynthia Gulledge CC: tania , wendy , Kate Fenton , Laura Fenton , Dana Kapla , Jay Gulledge , Scott & Sarah , PC800 , Juan Pablo , Mom , Ivanova Subject: PC800: funny This came from the HSTA list: >If I could put one of these on my bike... >>From CNET Digital Dispatch: > >Because of the recent cold snap, I've been driving my car to >work a lot, and so my thoughts have turned to the vehicular >when it comes to technology. Today's nugget comes from >Johannesburg, South Africa--a city that is plagued with 32.7 >carjackings to every 100,000 cars on the road, or roughly >1,000 a month. The problem is so bad that carjackers routinely >stalk driveways and rush-hour traffic, and even pose as police >to lure cars to the side of the road. The solution? A $650 >flamethrower called The Blaster, which sends a man-high >fireball from either door lock to instantly engulf the >hijacker without harming the paint job of the automobile. To >activate the system, the driver simply pushes a foot pedal for >instant flaming, or it can be left on, or disabled, with a >single switch. > >Of course, I figure this is ripe territory for all sorts of >inventions. For instance, carjackers are starting to look for >the telltale fireball nozzles that are installed next to the >key lock--prompting me to wonder how long before fake >flamethrower nozzles are sold as a cheaper deterrent. And, >with all the idiots in this country who repeatedly trip their >car alarms, you can imagine what stepping on the wrong pedal >could do to a neighboring car. Which, of course, adds new >meaning to the term "flame war." -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:46:52 -0500 From: Roger Pattee To: jgoula CC: Heather Wells , Cynthia Gulledge , tania , wendy , Kate Fenton , Laura Fenton , Dana Kapla , Jay Gulledge , Scott & Sarah , PC800 , Juan Pablo , Mom , Ivanova Subject: Re: PC800: funny Got one better then that..heh Sitting in an unmarked patrol car, at a stoplight, and idiot walks up to drivers door with pen knife exposed, stating; "Hey MF! Give it up!" "Excuse me?" (Glock drawn and pointing at said idiot with silly looking pen knife, and by now very wide eyes, and working on sobriety quite fast) Being the public servant that I am, I gave the citizen a ride and arraigned lodging, including clothing and TV (cable) and movies, popcorn, and whole bunch of other freebies. -- Roger A. Pattee <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* Betrayed by the land that bore us, Forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, As only the evil are here. So stand to your glasses steady, The world is a world full of lies. Here's to those who have gone before us, And, here's to the next man that dies. <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "Roger A. Pattee" , Subject: Re: PC800: New Honda Parts ordered, and delivered Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:33:57 -0500 I would be interested in the information. I have been looking for the trunk lights and the bra. Please E-mail me with the information. Would greatly appreciate it. RAR205 rar205@sundial.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger A. Pattee To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:41 PM Subject: PC800: New Honda Parts ordered, and delivered I think we had mentioned this before, but I went and ordered the Hondaline PC trunk lights, and Hondaline PC bra. I ordered these before my heart attack (19 Jan), and just remembered today to check on them...both items were in; they had called and talked to the wife, who advised them to hold them for me. Guess she forgot to tell me they were in. Anyway......it took about 2 1/2 weeks to get the trunk lights, the bra was in within 4 days. Just incase anyone is thinking about ordering them..I have the Hondaline pull tickets (warehouse), they didn't take all that long to get. Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:14:54 +0100 Job, dear fellow. I have no doubt in your ability to ride safely and I admit I could have stated my text more subtle. You understand me wrong if you think I was saying your common sense is not working. We think alike on the safety topic. I thought you would agree with me if said that it is best to use common sense when wanting to wave. Offcourse it is best and safest if you never waved at all. But, like the front braking discussion ( : )), it is not correct to then conclude that "waving is dangerous". The fact that it is forbidden during motorcycling tests is no argument to conclude that it is thereby dangerous. There is a nuance difference here. I congratulate you with your safety record which is without a doubt thanks to your terrific attitude. Never waving will insure that you have no accident that could be related to the fact that you let go of the handlebar. Never riding a motorcycle will also help. If I want to open my visor because of fogging I have to let go of the handlebar with one hand in order to prevent an emergency. In that case I would have failed your test, yet I would have done the safest possible thing, a calculated risk, but the safest choice nevertheless. I'm merely trying to state that it is better to say that it COULD be safest to keep your hands on the handlebars at all times. But it is too simple to say that "waving is dangerous". If you (not you Job, but 'you' in general) use common sense when waving, there is hardly any increase in safety risk. I hope you understand the thought of my previous message now. Communication can be a tricky thing sometimes. : ) Emile http://fly.to/emile -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: PCSG Ltd. Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Datum: vrijdag 5 februari 1999 19:25 Onderwerp: PC800: Waving >I follow the training and guidelines by: >1. RoSPA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents) Advanced >Motorcyling Tests; >2. Institute of Adavnced Motorcyclists Tests. > >Candidates follow 'Motorcycle Roadcraft', The Police Rider's Handbook and >take several hours of training under the supervision of a qualified >Observer. To pass tests by any of these organisations, one need to pass a >90 minute test covering all types of roads, followed by a Class 1 Police >Examiner. > >Only time the rider is allowed to take the hand off the handlebars is only >in an emergency, such as to give hands signals in the event of failure by >indicators. > >I personally have had an accident-free record of over 20 years >(motorcycles, cars, hang gliders, aircraft groups a A, D and SLMG) and in >over 30 countries. >So, I think my hands are where they should be and my common sense and >priorities are fuctioning okay. >Otherwise, I would not have passed the RoSPA Test which need to be taken >every 3 years to keep it valid. > >With all due respect to you Emile, I feel it will be safer for me to ignore >your 'top of the head' remarks. > >Job Chithalan >Sussex Coast >---------- >> From: Emile Nossin >> To: PC800 >> Subject: Re: PC800: Waving >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:41 AM >> >> >Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of >Britain. >> >Here we look at each other and nod... >> >Job Sussex Coast >> >> Holland is the single most densly populated country in the world >> next to Bangladesh and I life in the most crowded part of Holland >> but yet I can't agree with your statement that waving is dangerous. >> Waving isn't dangerous....crashing is. Whether you're riding, driving >> or flying you just have to use common sense. The PC is perfectly >> rideable with one hand, no problem. Need your clutch --> nod. >> Need your vision in front of you --> act like a Harley rider. >> If you don't know how to prioritize this stuff, don't ride. Simple.... >> Riding a motorcycle isn't dangerous right up to the point that you >> forget it's dangerous...... >> YMMV blah blah.... >> ___ >> [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >> [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort >> >> "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... >> ...crashing is........" >> >> http://fly.to/emile >> ICQ 17992318 >> Emile@Cybercomm.nl >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:41:42 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , "PC800 Rider" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:37:22 -0800 Wow, It's early Spring in California. If I had time to stop riding and check the calendar, I guess it might be about February now. ;-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PC800 Rider To: scot.piper@hscpoly.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 12:06 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello >scot.piper@hscpoly.com writes: >>It's early Feb in MI > >That's funny, it's early Feb in NY also:-) > >Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > >AMA #688662 >HSTA #8387 > >"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:01:54 -0500 (EST) To: ultspnch@powerup.com.au (Ronald Grant) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800) Subject: PC800: Special Harley For Sale Hope I don't get flamed for posting this. I know several riders on this list collect motorcycles. A co-worker has a 1986 HD low rider FXRS, "The Miss Liberty Edition". This motorcycle was designed to commemorate the centenniel anniversary of America's Statue of Liberty. It is in mint condition & has only 9700 miles on it. There were only 900 built. He is asking $12,500 firm. It is a beautiful motorcycle. If anyone here on the list is interested or knows of anyone else who may be interested, please e-mail me direct. This cycle is located in Fort Wayne, IN. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ Send Prayer Requests via E-mail; go to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Raining In Phoenix Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:06:32 -0700 The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix that I = live in.=A0 I mention this because it is the first time since I bought my PC = back in November that I have seen rain here and I am amazed at how well the Pacific Coast handles it.=A0 Every workday I have left my cage (an '89 = Toyota pickup) in the garage and out of the sun because I was enjoying the = ride to and from work on my new bike.=A0 What a great machine!=A0 Both days I = arrived home with water on my shoes and helmet.=A0 No soaking wet pantlegs or shirtsleeves!!=A0 This is what I endured when I commuted to work in = Columbus, Ohio on a 1975 Honda 750F with a Windjammer fairing.=A0 Two things I = disliked about that setup: after a short ride in the rain, I needed to change = clothes and the fairing reflected all that air-cooled engine noise right back = into my helmet.=A0 Not so with the PC!=A0 This has got to be the smartest = design of a mainstream streetbike I have ever known.=A0 Now if it only had about = 300 more cubic centimeters, another gear in the box, and electronic = cruise......... A few things on this listserver I have also noticed: Left fairing pocket - that is where I keep my garage door opener and it = has stayed dry these last two days.=A0 A square cross-section gasket in the = lid mating to a small raised lip on the fairing seems to do the trick. Tranny clunking:=A0 yep, mine does it too.=A0 At 600 miles I replaced = the original oil with Mobil 1 20W-50 and noticed absolutely no difference = in running or shifting.=A0 My around-town fuel economy has moved to 50+ = mpg but I attribute that mostly to a broken-in engine.=A0 The transmission in = this motorcycle feels just like all the other Honda bikes I have owned: = noisy but positive shifting.=A0 A clunk and a little lurch into 1st, depending on = engine speed, and then a fairly loud "clack" when moving to the other four = gears.=A0=20 Wimpy horn: a friend who rides a H-D touring bike suggested I install a = set of FIAMMs so I can get the attention of those idiot car-drivers.=A0 The biggest problem I have with the stock horn is the ease in which I accidentally sound it. Windshield: I wish it were taller.=A0 I installed the Saeng edging and = found that it helped but my 5 ' 10" (32 inch inseam) body still gets buffeted about my head more than I would like.=A0 Apparently I need an even = taller windshield. Until Nexttime: David Smith =A0 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: laitimg@tri-m.com.sg Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:09:58 +0800 Date: 6 Feb 1999 20:09:58 +0800 Subject: PC800: A Greetings Card Specially For You To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dear Pacific Coast Listers, Oh Lai Timg has sent you a Greetings Card from CommerceAsia's Greeting Card Service. 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If you have problems, please check our FAQs. http://www2.commerceasia.com/greeting/faq.htm#background_music Yours Sincerely, CommerceAsia's Greeting Card WebMaster Email: greeting@commerceasia.com Homepage: http://www2.commerceasia.com/greeting -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:57:08 EST To: scot.piper@hscpoly.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello In a message dated 2/5/99 1:11:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, scot.piper@hscpoly.com writes: << what if I run a K177 front and Metzler rear? >> Scot: I tried this on my 89. The Metzler "cupped" like crazy. I was getting all sorts of noise from the tires and it took me forever to track down the fact the tire cupped really badly. I ended up taking the Metzler off with around 5K on it. FWIW Rob Cary NC 89 PC w/ 43K 96PC w/ 1.3K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:05:07 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: scot.piper@hscpoly.com, srm@isd.net CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi Scot, scot.piper@hscpoly.com wrote: > My Honda dealer says they can order K177 tires directly from Honda. $132 > for the rear tire. I thought the K177 was no longer? $132 is pretty steep > - can do Metzlers for that. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Also, > what if I run a K177 front and Metzler rear? A lot of miles left on my > front K177. As far as I know, Honda is the only one that has any K177s for the PC left. The usual mail order houses (Chaparral, Donelson, etc.) are out in spite of the fact that a couple of them still list the tire. When I queried my Honda dealer, I got a quote of $260 for the pair which is about $60 to $100 more than I have been paying. The replacement from Dunlop is the OEM tire, the K555. I don't care much for it because of the straight groove in the front tire which makes the PC act squirrely on rain grooves and because they (the K555s) howl. I've got a set on my PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's even better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. I was going to switch to Metzelers next time to try them until I recently read a response to a letter in Rider Magazine (I think it was Rider). Apparently Metzeler says putting a plug in a Metzeler tire (after a flat) is an absolute no no. Dunlop, on the other hand, says that it is OK if done properly (they were more specific than that but I won't go into that here). I had a nail in my back tire a couple of sets ago and used a regular tubeless plug to fix it. The place that did the repair was reluctant but I just said, "sell me the plug and I will install it myself." I rode (very watchfully at first) for over 2000 miles with that plug in the tire without incident. The puncture was not on the side of the tire but on the bottom (luckily). Because of the responses of the two companies, I am now thinking that in spite of the howling and the front groove, I will stick with the Dunlops. The pair I am running on was purchased from a Sacramento tire dealer for $198. My regular mechanic balanced and installed them for me for $48 (1 hour). As much as I like the K177s, $260 for a pair is just too much for me, particularly since I change them better than once a year - usually about 8 to 10 months. I loved the K177s. They were a great tire. When Dunlop dropped them (decision out of Japan), I called and talked at length to a Dunlop person in New York. He agreed that the K177 is a better tire in the US than the K555 and said they told that to the folks in Japan to no avail. The timing of the dropping of the PC size in the K177 suggests to me that Dunlop suspected that the PC was being discontinued and that that might have played a part in their decision; pure speculation on my part but the timing is certainly interesting to me. (I'm betting that Dunlop had NOT gotten an order for new K555s from Honda as they would have if there had been a 1999 PC and that is how they knew what was going on.) FWIW, the mail order houses I talked to said they were NOT going to pick up the K555 - I don't know why if they had enough volume to justify the K177 for the PC. As far as mixing brands, I don't think I would. You would have different compounds, probably, front and rear. I would expect that that might affect the handling and I don't think I'd want to take a chance on it. Hope that helps. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:22:44 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jim Alexander CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi Jim, Jim Alexander wrote: > Wow, It's early Spring in California. If I had time to stop riding and > check the calendar, I guess it might be about February now. ;-) How to win friends and influence people by Jim Alexander... (big grin) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2S5F548; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:26:33 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:25:46 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Raining In Phoenix Hi David, On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:06:32 -0700 "Smith, David E (AZ77)" David.E.Smith@CAS.Honeywell.com> writes: The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix that I live in. I catch rain in all four seasons. In Minnesota four seasons reads as; "Spring, - road construction, Summer, - road construction, Fall, - road construction, Winter, - road construction. Got the idea.... Because water can exist as liquid down to -40ºF or for Emile that's -40ºC (+32ºF or for Emile that's 0ºC is actually the melting point of ice.) The fairing works great for rain even super cooled (for Emile that's ether rhyme ice or hoar ice... turn on the boots and prop alcohol or hot wings and nacelle heat.) The mighty PC800 is truly a great fun machine. Sorry Emile for pounding on ya... BTW how do you put those little €'s in the email, don't forget buddy... keep the blue above the green... David let't git togather again some time and admire Mr. Nossin... \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( € € ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* Boys Will Be Boys... CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... We'll Scratch you later. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2S5S3T4; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:32:31 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:31:36 -0600 Subject: PC800: Mr. Nossin is a great guy... Hi Emile, I want the world to know that even though I take shots at you I greatly respect you and all of the high visibility writing you do for us Coasters. You have a talent for making newbies welcome and imparting technical facts to one and all. You do nice work... /\####/\ CrackHead Rod... /\####/\ / \##/ \ (Cracked Me Helmet In A Crash..) / \##/ \ /____\/____\ 1994 PC800, Name: "Monica" /____\/____\ \####/\####/ August 20,1998 2600 Miles.. \####/\####/ \##/ \##/ 8762.9 Miles and more to come.. \##/ \##/ \/____\/ ________________________________ \/____\/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2S646JF; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:55:30 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:54:31 -0600 Subject: PC800: Spring in California. Jim Alexander wrote: Wow, It's early Spring in California. If I had time to stop riding and check the calendar, I guess it might be about February now. ;-) How to win friends and influence people by Jim Alexander...(big grin) Hi Jim, I just went outside (St. Paul, Minnesota USA) and made a three kilo snow-ball. I then put your name on it. I then put it into my freezer. If you ever come to Minnesota to partake of our 10,000 sky tinted lakes or whatever. I got a three kilo present for you...(big high-voltage grin) \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2S8Y4JR; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:28:14 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:27:42 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: A Greetings Card Specially For You On 6 Feb 1999 20:09:58 +0800 laitimg@tri-m.com.sg writes: >Dear Pacific Coast Listers, > >Oh Lai Timg has sent you a Greetings Card from CommerceAsia's Greeting >Card Service. Thank you for the card... I have a question or two. if you please...? What name would you like to be called on the PC800 list...? Where do you live...? Do you drive your PC to work or school...? How did you find this list...? How old are you...? Your gender...? I you are not comfortable with these questions then please don't respond to them. And most of all can we still be friends...? /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) 6 Feb 1999 19:36:44 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:39:34 -0500 From: David P Hart Subject: PC800: Brake light installation / Givi cont. To: PC800 Listserver Hi Listers, I'm still in the midst of my GiVi box installation. This was supposed to be a six bolt installation, but Murphy had to come calling. I'm having fun with the Spoiler problem...more on that later. Situation: I've got the brake light option for the E460 box. I've got the box wired up and ready to punch the knockouts. Question: Where's the best place to connect to the brake lights? All suggestions welcome. I'd especially like to hear from GiVi owners who have done this since they know what I'm staring at (and what is staring back at me). This thing looks really nice on my kitchen table, but my wife is rapidly loosing favor with this situation. :) Direct e-mail is OK. Thanks in advance, David Hart '94 PC -Doctor, the patient is asleep. We can now proceed. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Raining In Phoenix Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:07:56 +0100 >David.E.Smith@CAS.Honeywell.com> writes: >The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix that I >live in. > > David, you poor thing ! Are you all right now ? If it happens again, don't be afraid to tell us. We care ! Excuse me, I have to throw up now...... BTW Rod, don't forget your medication. You're delirious again. Emile http://fly.to/emile >I catch rain in all four seasons. In Minnesota four seasons reads as; >"Spring, - road construction, Summer, - road construction, Fall, - road >construction, Winter, - road construction. Got the idea.... > >Because water can exist as liquid down to -40ºF or for Emile that's -40ºC >(+32ºF or for Emile that's 0ºC is actually the melting point of ice.) The >fairing works great for rain even super cooled (for Emile that's ether >rhyme ice or hoar ice... turn on the boots and prop alcohol or hot wings >and nacelle heat.) > >The mighty PC800 is truly a great fun machine. > >Sorry Emile for pounding on ya... BTW how do you put those little €'s in >the email, don't forget buddy... keep the blue above the green... > >David let't git togather again some time and admire Mr. Nossin... > > > \\\|/// > \\ ~ ~ // > ( € € ) >*********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* > Boys Will Be Boys... >CrackHead Rod, >(cracked me brain bucket in a crash) >1994 Pacific Coast >Name; "Monica" >8762.9 Miles and more to come... >We'll Scratch you later. > > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D2TVC68Z; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 22:24:22 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:22:13 -0600 Subject: PC800: Say it isn't so! From: Jim Nyffeler "The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix ..." A quote from David E. Smith. David say it isn't so, I will be in Phoenix and surrounding environs the last week of this month. Being from Nebraska I was so looking forward to all the sunshine! Could I put an order in for sunshine that week? Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2TYX8SF; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:27:12 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: snowmoer@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:23:59 -0800 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save lives? From: Dan Messaros Jim, Sometimes that would be so nice! I have thought more of just shooting the motor on their bike and say, Gee, I guess you are right, Loud pipes did save your life, I shot your bike and not you!! Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's- who is about to burst with our first child!! On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:40:51 -0500 Jim Randall writes: >I understand the problem. There was a time when a LEO could just issue >a = >citation for "too loud" but now the perps will challange that >arbitrary = >assessment and therefore some type of quantitative measure is >required. = >Maybe we should just let you shoot them - that would proabably be >easier = >to defend! > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net >http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan Messaros [SMTP:snowmoer@juno.com] >Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:35 PM >To: jrandall@tricon.net >Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes >save lives? > >Hi Jim, > >As a Law Enforcement Officer with National Park Service, it is VERY >hard >to enforce the decibel limit law. For it to stand up in court, at leat >the court I have to go through, I have to be certified in the use of a >decibel meeter. The meeter has to be tested and certified as accurate, >and the vehicle being tested has to pass me at a measured 100 feet for >the test to be good. That is why you see so many officers turning >there >heads.=20 > >I do not like it any more then you do, it drives me crazy! I wish the >folks sitting in the office would make it easier for me to do my job = >with > what is on the books now than making more regulations that I can not >enforce. > >Just a thought from the other side. > >Dan Messaros >Port Angeles, WA > >1990 PC 800 14,900 Miles and sleeping for the winter >1988 NX 650 >1988 Shadow 800 Wife's=20 > > >On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:07:39 -0500 Jim Randall >writes: >>Most "civilians" who don't like motorcycles will tell you that it's >=3D >>because 1) they're too loud and 2) the riders are "reckless". =3D >>Recklessness is not confined to any one group but more often than >not=20 >>=3D >>too-loud bikes are cruisers of one type or another (can't just >blame=20 >>the =3D >>just Harleys even though they are well represented in this group). >Too=20 >>=3D >>loud motorcycles are causing on and off-road areas to be closed to >=3D >>motorcycle use. In case you'd like a little proof, just try to >ride=20 >>your =3D >>motorcycle to your $2K+/week condo at Wild Dunes Resort, Isle of=20 >>Palms, =3D >>SC - they won't let you in now matter how much you paid for the damn >= >=3D >>condo. Fortunately, I called ahead! >> >>This will not doubt be a revelation, but did you know Harleys >don't=20 >>have =3D >>to be loud? Last summer I rode a week with my wife's cousin from >CA=20 >>who =3D >>has a big touring Harley. This man rides across the USA at least >once=20 >>a =3D >>year - he's a serious rider not just a "poser" and he, like most >of=20 >>us, =3D >>detests loud bikes. His stock Harley pipes are quiet ... not >PC-quiet,=20 >>=3D >>but quiet enough.=3D20 >> >>IMO, the fundamental problem, is that law enforcement agencies don't >= >=3D >>enforce existing noise and vehicle safety laws. I realize they =3D >>occasionally have more important things to do but too often they >just=20 >>=3D >>turn their heads rather than confront loud bikers. Joe Citizen >reacts=20 >>by =3D >>requesting more stringent laws, regualtions, restrictions, etc when >in=20 >>=3D >>fact the existing ones would usually take care of the problem if =3D >>enforced. >> >>Loud pipes cost rights! >> >>Jim Randall >>jrandall@tricon.net >>http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Roger A. Pattee [SMTP:rpattee@g-net.net] >>Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:34 AM >>To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >>Subject: PC800: Subject changed....to.... Loud pipes save=20 >>lives? >> >>On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:14:33 -0500, TommyTeal wrote: >> >>>Leland C. Sheppard wrote: >>> >>> >>>> owners/riders. Who has their nose in the air then? The "loud=20 >>pipes =3D >>saves >>>> lives" excuse for breaking people's ear drums is a poor one as >far=20 >>as =3D >>I am >>>> concerned.=3D20 >>> >>> >>>I know it is old, but I have always enjoyed the retort to "loud >pipes >>>saves lives", of "then why not tape down the horn button"? They=20 >>never >>>see the humor in that. >>> >>>Makes me giggle, every time. >>> >>___________________________ >>I also get a kick out of the statement that loud pipes saves lives.. >> >>Hell, they don't see me when I come driving down the road, with siren >>blaring; headlight wigwags flashing; corner strobes strobing; visibar >>activated; whatever else kind of light being lit and >>flashing/strobing/pulsating, heh.....yeah, right...loud pipes saves >>lives....(snicker) >> >> >>Roger >><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >>Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones >>we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=3D20 >>the evil are here. >> >>Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=3D20 >>of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=3D20 >>the next man that dies. >><*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> >>my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. >> >>http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body >of=20 >>a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body >of=20 >>a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2TYX8P4; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:27:12 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rpattee@g-net.net Cc: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu, fshlw1@aurora.alaska.edu, cgulledg@emerald.tufts.edu, tania@ims.uaf.edu, wendy@ims.uaf.edu, kfenton@ims.uaf.edu, lfenton@ims.uaf.edu, dkapla@iliamna.ims.uaf.edu, jgulledg@oeb.harvard.edu, russell@alaska.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, morito@direct.ca, goula@blaze.ca, flocon@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:49:57 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: funny From: Dan Messaros Roger, That was mighty nice of you to take such good care of him that way! Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:46:52 -0500 Roger Pattee writes: >Got one better then that..heh > >Sitting in an unmarked patrol car, at a stoplight, and idiot walks up >to drivers door with pen knife exposed, stating; "Hey MF! Give it up!" > >"Excuse me?" (Glock drawn and pointing at said idiot with silly >looking >pen >knife, and by now very wide eyes, and working on sobriety quite fast) > >Being the public servant that I am, I gave the citizen a ride and >arraigned >lodging, including clothing and TV (cable) and movies, popcorn, and >whole bunch >of other freebies. > > >-- >Roger A. Pattee ><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* >Betrayed by the land that bore us, Forsaken by the ones we hold dear. >The good have all gone before us, As only the evil are here. >So stand to your glasses steady, The world is a world full of lies. >Here's to those who have gone before us, And, here's to the next man >that dies. ><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* > >http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by potter.ieee.uh.edu with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 07:00:17 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Roe" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Another battery failure! Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:56:39 -0600 Well, it seems dying batteries are contagious -- my '90 lost its juice last week, and after seeing the horror stories of 6 hour ordeals removing all the plastic parts, I hated to start the job. After returning from Taipei last evening, I decided to tackle the job to help get my body back in tune with the time here in Houston. Of course, I picked a nice, rain-threatening morning to do it, and alas, no garage to do it in; what a fine choice of days I made. The verdict? The entire operation, including removing all seven pieces and reassembling them again, took under an hour. It really was painless; figuring out how to get the lower right side cover off was a pain, but that was the worst of it. Everyone who's fearing replacing the battery... don't worry, it's not too hard. My only suggestion is to put a piece of duct tape over the right side passenger peg painted side to prevent little scratches. I, unfortunately, did not think of this at the time, and ended up waxing the bike to get rid of the scratches. I also replaced the fairing; when I bought my bike (off this list, from Gerri Ewing), it came with the tall hondaline screen, which I have loved (except for the backpressure problem.) I put the stock fairing back on it today; what a difference. I had been babied by the tall screen; going back to a short one reminded me of my days on a FZR1000 (which is, by the way, the ultimate WRONG bike to learn on. Trust me.) It's nice to have the backpressure gone, but it's a lot more noisy -- might have to look into a Clearview. This list is great. Thanks to all for their tips and hints; they were of great use today. And for all of you folks in cold northland -- tomorrow's forecast here is 80 degrees and sunshine. You see, our two weeks of winter were LAST month! --John N2HAQ '90 PC, 14,500 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: I Am OK! Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:11:06 -0700 Yes, I am just fine Emile.=A0 I just returned from the grocery store = (on my PC) and now I have had my dinner so I am feeling quite comfy.=A0 Except = I am rather disturbed to be reading what seems to be a very condescending = message from someone I thought was a pretty cool guy.=A0 I have been reading = the messages on this listserver since I bought my PC in late November and I = do not recall you throwing any really sharp barbs at anyone.=A0 If that = was your intent with this message to me, I will respond with this: I do not = deserve it.=A0 I understand you live in a part of the world that can have = pretty lousy weather.=A0 Really nasty, miserable weather conditions is something I = have lived with also: 19 years in northwest Iowa/southwest Minnesota, three = years launching aircraft in the Atlantic (mostly North Atlantic), and 18 = years in central Ohio. The coldest I ever experienced cannot compare to = Fairbanks, of course, but -25F was enough to keep me by the fireplace and off the snowmobile.=A0 I was recently vacationing for three weeks (December & = January) in Poland, which is fairly close to you, Emile.=A0 I saw not a single motorcyclist even in the coastal cities of Gdansk and Gdynia, where the streets were wet but not snowy or icy (55 Degrees North Latitude but = warmed by the Baltic).=A0 I guess they consider the economy of a motorcycle unnecessary when tiny 650cc twin-cylinder Fiats are readily = available.=A0 The reason I thought you were a pretty cool guy is partly because I thought = you were a year-round PC rider in Holland who was active on this list and = partly because I felt you gave good feedback & advice.=A0 The reason I posted = my message was to give my insight on some of the running discussions I = have seen the last few days and to extol the virtues of the Pacific = Coast.=A0 It was not my intention to brag about the dry weather here in the desert southwest US. < I hope you understand the thought of my previous message now. Communication can be a tricky thing sometimes. : ) >=A0=A0=20 David Smith 1998 Pacific Coast=A0 "Minerva" 1390 smiles Phoenix =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: I Am OK! Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:30:01 +0100 Dear David, Yes, I ride year round and yes I'm sorry I forgot to put the : ) in the previous message. The entire message was intended in good humour. Please go on to praise about the wonderfull aspects of our common transportation. You've had your share of bad weather more than I have, so I deserve to be teased. Enjoy your weather there and I'm serious if I say to continu telling us about all your sunshine and occasional raindrop, if only to make me drool : ))))). You are an okay and cool dude ! I think I have to throw up again.... : ))))) Emile http://fly.to/emile :)))))))))))))) -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Smith, David E (AZ77) Aan: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Datum: zondag 7 februari 1999 9:31 Onderwerp: PC800: I Am OK! Yes, I am just fine Emile. I just returned from the grocery store (on my PC) and now I have had my dinner so I am feeling quite comfy. Except I am rather disturbed to be reading what seems to be a very condescending message from someone I thought was a pretty cool guy. I have been reading the messages on this listserver since I bought my PC in late November and I do not recall you throwing any really sharp barbs at anyone. If that was your intent with this message to me, I will respond with this: I do not deserve it. I understand you live in a part of the world that can have pretty lousy weather. Really nasty, miserable weather conditions is something I have lived with also: 19 years in northwest Iowa/southwest Minnesota, three years launching aircraft in the Atlantic (mostly North Atlantic), and 18 years in central Ohio. The coldest I ever experienced cannot compare to Fairbanks, of course, but -25F was enough to keep me by the fireplace and off the snowmobile. I was recently vacationing for three weeks (December & January) in Poland, which is fairly close to you, Emile. I saw not a single motorcyclist even in the coastal cities of Gdansk and Gdynia, where the streets were wet but not snowy or icy (55 Degrees North Latitude but warmed by the Baltic). I guess they consider the economy of a motorcycle unnecessary when tiny 650cc twin-cylinder Fiats are readily available. The reason I thought you were a pretty cool guy is partly because I thought you were a year-round PC rider in Holland who was active on this list and partly because I felt you gave good feedback & advice. The reason I posted my message was to give my insight on some of the running discussions I have seen the last few days and to extol the virtues of the Pacific Coast. It was not my intention to brag about the dry weather here in the desert southwest US. < I hope you understand the thought of my previous message now. Communication can be a tricky thing sometimes. : ) > David Smith 1998 Pacific Coast "Minerva" 1390 smiles Phoenix -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Smith, David E (AZ77)" To: "'Jim Nyffeler'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Say it isn't so! Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:40:34 -0700 Jim: The last two weeks of this month I plan to be in Columbus, Seattle, and Wichita so I gave control of the weather back to the National Weather Bureau. They have assured me there have been plenty of requests for good weather so you have nothing to worry about. On the other hand, I would be glad to sell you a "no-risk" guaranteed good-weather policy for that week. For just $299 I will ensure a spot of sunshine somewhere in Arizona. The weekend thrown in For Free!! You might have to move fast to catch it but it WILL be there somewhere! Seriously though, this is my second winter here and I have been pleasantly surprised by how dry it has been. Last year it rained almost as much as Ohio and I got very tired of detouring around flooded streets. I was riding a bicycle then, however. This year I don't care because I am being pushed along by 800cc of V-Twin Power!! Mucho better. David Smith 1998 Pacific Coast "Minerva" 1390 smiles Phoenix -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Nyffeler [mailto:nyfty@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 8:22 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Say it isn't so! "The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix ..." A quote from David E. Smith. David say it isn't so, I will be in Phoenix and surrounding environs the last week of this month. Being from Nebraska I was so looking forward to all the sunshine! Could I put an order in for sunshine that week? Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 06:19:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 06:19:01 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello In a message dated 2/6/99 3:26:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, lcshepp@directcon.net writes: << The replacement from Dunlop is the OEM tire, the K555. I don't care much for it because of the straight groove in the front tire which makes the PC act squirrely on rain grooves and because they (the K555s) howl. I've got a set on my PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's even better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: You Have A Postcard Waiting!! Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 08:13:25 -0600 Rodney Carey has sent you an internet postcard. To view it, just go to this web site address: http://www.motorcycleshows.com/postcards/post.htm You will need the following information to view your postcard: Code Number: 2047 E-Mail Address: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Please note that your postcard will expire in two weeks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:20:32 +0800 From: OH LAI TIMG To: rodneycarey@juno.com, pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: A Greetings Card Specially For You --------------F805A1BA4E475B346DC5CFE5 Folks, I'm sorry . Actually, I'm a bit lost when I initially listed myself. I did not know how to get into the group. Fortunately with the help from Job, I managed to get into the group. Basically, I am 35 yrs old and driving a 96 Red PC to work daily. My Home town is Singapore. It's a very small country and about 43kmX23km. You can me "Lai Timg" or Oh (Family name). I only drive this machine for about 6 months. Although, I've been driving for more than 10 yrs. But PC 800 is very new to me. Experience on PC800 Mileage --- 10 K mileage (more to go !!!) Gear Oil Use --Mobile 1 5W50 (I think, I'm going to switch to Castrol) Kappa Box with Rear break light Clutch oil --Just replaced but face problem. The clutch unable open fully even the lever is fully pressed---Anyone can advise ?? Note: have squeezed for more than 30 mins on the lever. All the trapped air should be escaped. The lever appear very firm but still not working. Speedo meter --- It's cut during front break replacement. Error from the workshop Technician. Anyway have replaced it with a new set . Rgds...Oh Lai Timg <<<<>>>>>> rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: > > On 6 Feb 1999 20:09:58 +0800 laitimg@tri-m.com.sg writes: > >Dear Pacific Coast Listers, > > > >Oh Lai Timg has sent you a Greetings Card from CommerceAsia's Greeting > >Card Service. > > > Thank you for the card... > > I have a question or two. if you please...? > > What name would you like to be called on the PC800 list...? > Where do you live...? > Do you drive your PC to work or school...? > How did you find this list...? > How old are you...? > Your gender...? > > I you are not comfortable with these questions then please don't respond > to them. > > And most of all can we still be friends...? > > /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... > \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) > \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 > \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" > \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles > \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... > \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --------------F805A1BA4E475B346DC5CFE5 Content-Description: Card for Oh Lai Timg begin: vcard fn: Oh Lai Timg n: ;Oh Lai Timg email;internet: laitimg@tri-m.com.sg x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------F805A1BA4E475B346DC5CFE5-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:43:28 EST To: root@potter.ieee.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Batteries, Trunk lights, & La Nina In a message dated 2/7/99 4:58:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, root@potter.ieee.uh.edu writes: << Everyone who's fearing replacing the battery... don't worry, it's not too hard. >> I am somewhat amazed at the concern that this issue has brought up among listers. I've done this job in under an hour many times. Sure it could be easier but hey "Life is hard". I finally got my trunk light kit yesterday. You would think that after being on back order for 2.5 months the dealership in Raleigh, NC would call me to tell me the parts finally arrived but nooooooooooo! I had to call them! My guess is it had been in for about 10 days. With tempratures near 70 Saturday it was a good day for a ride and warm enough to install the light kit outside! The installation process took about 2.5 hours. Overall the instructions were pretty good. The only question was the location of plug that shuts off the lights when the truck is shut. (Thank goodness I still have my 89 w/ thrunk lights so that I could compare installations). I must admit I was a little nervous about cutting holes in the trunk. The instructions suggested using a heavy duty knife. You got to be kidding! The plastic is about 1/4 inch thick!. I drilled pilot holes and used a electric saw. (Hey thats why the made power tools). This was the toughest part of the job. The wiring harness even came with dual plugs for those of us lucky enough to have the Kenwood stereo. I look forward to being able to find my gloves at 7 am in the dark in my well lit trunk. BTW the weather here in NC has been so mild this winter I can use the PC at least a couple of times a week for work. Morning lows have been between 40 & 50. With highs between 60 & 70. Thank you La Nina! Rob Cary NC 89 w/ 43 K 96 w/ 1.4 K and trunk lights! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:39:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:37:04 -0800 Leland keeps his trunk filled with Helium Balloons! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:20 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello >In a message dated 2/6/99 3:26:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcshepp@directcon.net writes: > ><< The replacement from Dunlop is the OEM tire, the K555. I don't care much >for it > because of the straight groove in the front tire which makes the PC act > squirrely on rain grooves and because they (the K555s) howl. I've got a set >on > my PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's >even > better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> > >Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 >on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! > >Regards, > <> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:01:56 -0500 (EST) To: JamesAlexander@csi.com (Jim Alexander) Cc: TedJ101@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello --WebTV-Mail-1915776533-664 YEEE KITTYYY! :-} I wondered how he got those kinda miles on his tires. Seriously though, I've got plenty of tread left on my 97 with 8500mi on them. Maybe i can get a total of 16,000 mi. on mine. Shure beats those days of my old 1981 CB750K4 Changed tires every 7to8000 mi. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ Send Prayer Requests via E-mail; go to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling --WebTV-Mail-1915776533-664 postoffice-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:40:24 -0800 mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id IAA16105; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:40:23 -0800 (PST) gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAD16754; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:06:36 -0600 sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11035 for ; 7 Feb 1999 11:39:18 -0500 with SMTP id LAA27826; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:39:11 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:37:04 -0800 Leland keeps his trunk filled with Helium Balloons! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:20 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello >In a message dated 2/6/99 3:26:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcshepp@directcon.net writes: > ><< The replacement from Dunlop is the OEM tire, the K555. I don't care much >for it > because of the straight groove in the front tire which makes the PC act > squirrely on rain grooves and because they (the K555s) howl. I've got a set >on > my PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's >even > better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> > >Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 >on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! > >Regards, > <> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1915776533-664-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Greeting Card Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:06:02 -0500 Lai Ting; =20 Welcome to the group from a fellow PC800 owner in Ottawa, Canada. =20 Singapore has a good reputation in Canada for being very clean and a = well run country. Hope you enjoy life there!! =20 I guess you don't get winter like we do here in Canada, which really = cuts down our time to ride the PC800 from April to November in a normal = year, although we went out as late as Dec. 15/98 which was highly = unusual for us! =20 Elton Hammond 97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:52:46 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: successful lowering? Seat for sale Anyone have detailed information on the successful lowering of a PC? Shorter shocks? Off what? cut'n'weld? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds w/ short inseams... Also, Karen has a stock PC seat for sale, blemish where crotch meets tank, almost center...not real obvous...Rear's Perfect. $75 for both Front&back, FOB Maine. Bought Corbin. Regards, -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA The size of your body is of little account; The size of your brain is of much account; The size of your heart is of the most account of all. -B.C. Forbes Open your heart, visit the Ride for Kids(R) @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:16:02 -0800 From: "Bobby K. Winter" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: fuel filter and drive shaft oils List members: 1. Is there an automotive fuel filter that can be use on the PC(1990)? 2. Would 80w100 or some other multi-weight oil be better in the drive line of the PC? I am almost giddy about the toughts of riding my shiney repaint PC. Kenneth Winter Eat TN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:21:16 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Verlis Dillman Subject: PC800: Digital PC800 Pics Hello All Don't get on very often except to read the mail from all you. Pick up alot of info, very interesting.For those who are interested you may visit our home page at <<>>. Your comments are welcome. Saturday here in Indiana was very nice to ride. The PC800 pictures were taken with my new Sony digital MVC-FD81. I was by myself and didn't take a tripod, so the picture of me and the cycle was taken with the camera sitting on the pavement, and used the 10 second timer on. Looking forward to the next 3 days, temps are to be in the 60's, and I will be riding. 95 PC800 w/10 94 Helix w/45k sold Marion, Ind. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:36:16 -0500 (EST) To: ko9f@comteck.com (Verlis Dillman) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Digital PC800 Pics 1999 15:21:16 -0600 --WebTV-Mail-2027684460-90 Welcome back to the list Verlis (fellow Hoosier). I checked out your website. Is that the Mississinewa Lake in the background behind your PC? We got 2" of snow today. I hope to get my PC out for good come middle of April. Do you know Charles Shepler (stampman) who is from Marion & also on this list? There are a couple of others on this list who are over in your neck of the woods, Carmel, for example. All for now. God Bless You. Dave Klein <*}}}>< DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne,IN All American City 1999 97 PC800 8500mi. http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/ My #1 Cat Site http://www.geocities.com/~C_C_F/ Send Prayer Requests via E-mail; go to: http://www.The700Club.org/Prayer/index.asp?url=/Counseling --WebTV-Mail-2027684460-90 postoffice-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:23:25 -0800 mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id MAA03552; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:23:24 -0800 (PST) gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAD18219; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:49:37 -0600 sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13120 for ; PULSE2.COMTECK.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA22797 for ; ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:21:16 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Verlis Dillman Subject: PC800: Digital PC800 Pics Hello All Don't get on very often except to read the mail from all you. Pick up alot of info, very interesting.For those who are interested you may visit our home page at <<>>. Your comments are welcome. Saturday here in Indiana was very nice to ride. The PC800 pictures were taken with my new Sony digital MVC-FD81. I was by myself and didn't take a tripod, so the picture of me and the cycle was taken with the camera sitting on the pavement, and used the 10 second timer on. Looking forward to the next 3 days, temps are to be in the 60's, and I will be riding. 95 PC800 w/10 94 Helix w/45k sold Marion, Ind. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-2027684460-90-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2VU3HHR; Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:57:34 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:57:58 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Digital PC800 Pics Very nice pictures there Mr. and Mrs. Dillman. You got motorcycles, radios, pets, and a beautyful home. I would say that you have it all... We'll Scratch you later. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica On Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:21:16 -0600 Verlis Dillman writes: >Hello All > Don't get on very often except to read the mail from all you. Pick >up -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:16:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Digital PC800 Pics To: ko9f@comteck.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Nice job Verl, You look like one happy Pacific Coaster. I especially like the low angle of the second photo. Leave that tripod at home more often:-) Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" ko9f@comteck.com writes: >Hello All > Don't get on very often except to read the mail from all you. >Pick up >alot of info, very interesting.For those who are interested you >may visit >our home page at <<>>. Your comments are >welcome. >Saturday here in Indiana was very nice to ride. The PC800 pictures >were >taken with my new Sony digital MVC-FD81. I was by myself and >didn't take a >tripod, so the picture of me and the cycle was taken with the >camera >sitting on the pavement, and used the 10 second timer on. Looking >forward >to the next 3 days, temps are to be in the 60's, and I will be >riding. > >95 PC800 w/10 >94 Helix w/45k sold >Marion, Ind. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: Clearview WindShield Installed... To: pclist Hi guys- I installed my new +5 Clearview shield this morning and here are my opinions: LOOKS: Much better than either the Rifle or the O.E. Honda Shield. QUALITY: Excellent. Again, much better than Rifle or Honda. The basis of my opinion: Honda shields melt the dash. Rifle Shields (I've had 3 so far) tend to develope little cracks around the screews, and the 2 piece Rifle system, with it's exposed screews and Rifle logo riveted on the front don't look as good (to me) as the clearview. To be fair to Rifle, their system is much better than OE Honda at keeping noise and wind down. Riding Comfort and wind noise: Stay tuned. After installing it, I didn't have time to ride anywhere (except around the block). :( I'll let you all know if it works as well as the Rifle at reducing the wind noise within a week or so. John == PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broekings" To: "John La" , "pclist" Subject: RE: PC800: Clearview WindShield Installed... Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:16:29 -0500 Importance: Normal And also send your measurements for us to compare whether a similar windshield may work. Like I am 6'2" and have a 37" height in a sitting position from the saddle. Also at 5+ you MUSt look THROUGH it, right? Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of John La Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 5:36 PM To: pclist Subject: PC800: Clearview WindShield Installed... Hi guys- I installed my new +5 Clearview shield this morning and here are my opinions: LOOKS: Much better than either the Rifle or the O.E. Honda Shield. QUALITY: Excellent. Again, much better than Rifle or Honda. The basis of my opinion: Honda shields melt the dash. Rifle Shields (I've had 3 so far) tend to develope little cracks around the screews, and the 2 piece Rifle system, with it's exposed screews and Rifle logo riveted on the front don't look as good (to me) as the clearview. To be fair to Rifle, their system is much better than OE Honda at keeping noise and wind down. Riding Comfort and wind noise: Stay tuned. After installing it, I didn't have time to ride anywhere (except around the block). :( I'll let you all know if it works as well as the Rifle at reducing the wind noise within a week or so. John == PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: cen13504@centuryinter.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: fuel filter and drive shaft oils Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:21:39 PST Fellow listers: Kenneth Winter wrote, "Is there an automotive fuel filter that can be use on the PC(1990)?" Direct replacement fuel filters for PC are available in JC Whitney for $1.98, Dennis Kirk for $2.98, local Honda dealer $12.45! Be sure to get the Gold Wing 1500 type (the one they put in our PC) as it has 7/16' fuel ports as opposed to the older Gold Wings with 1/4" ports. An alternate method is to buy a Purolator universal glass type, 5/16" port size($9.95 at the local Pep Boys, $4.95 for three replacement filter elements) and 1' of 5/16" fuel line. Open your trunk, find the fuel filter hidden on the left side in front of the trunk liner. The filter is located under the fuel pump. Lift the fuel pump out, lift the Honda filter out. Remove the "special" Honda fuel line from your tank (drain the tank first, please) and replace with similar length of 5/16" fuel line. I recommend using "fuel injection hose clamps" instead f the stock type. Don't worry as the outlet port from the tank is 5/16" just like the hose you bought. Now connect that hose to the Purolator (any other type with 5/16" fittings will work) filter. Next, remove the second "special" Honda fuel line that runs from the stock filter to the fuel pump. Replace with a similar length of 5/16" fuel line connecting the fuel pump to the OUTLET side of the Purolator filter. I routed the new fuel line behind the frame to avoid kinks. This gave me room to mount my new filter with plastic ties to the OUTSIDE of the fuel pump/filter mounting bracket. This allows you to visually inspect the filter for flow and dirt and change elements without removing the fuel pump ever again. Ride like your life depends on it! Chuck Chiodini in Fayetteville, NC 89 PC "Scooter" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:50:30 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Scudder, PCrdr, GBTTrdr, GHrscu" <97PC800@bizgroup.net> To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: I'm back, Thanks to all.... Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:44:52 -0500 Fellow Listers, I am back on the list after returning from out of town. I wish to thank all of you who sent email & cards after my Mother's passing. How very thoughtful you all are. Regards, Steve Scudder 97PC800@bizgroup.net Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA '97 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Red Therapy" '97 Suzuki Savage LS650 "Thumper" '90 Honda GB500 Tourist Trophy "Black Beauty" '88 NGA Racing Greyhound* "Rimfire Jones"(retired) '92 NGA Racing Greyhound* "L. Dee's Gazelle"(retired) Make a Fast Friend...Adopt a Greyhound! * 0-40 MPH in 5 strides. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: broeking@erols.com cc: "John La" , "pclist" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview WindShield Installed... of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:16:29 EST." <000301be52f8$461c9d40$8b29accf@broeking> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:35:58 -0600 "The Broekings" writes: > And also send your measurements for us to compare whether a similar > windshield may work. Like I am 6'2" and have a 37" height in a sitting > position from the saddle. Also at 5+ you MUSt look THROUGH it, right? > Cheers Bob I'm 6' 1-1/2" with a 32" inseam and comfortably look OVER the tallest stock Rifle. Thoguht it was 6" or so over the stock shield. I taped a ruler to my stock shield as an "extension" then rode around thinking about how much taller I wanted my new shield. When the ruler was extended to 5 or 6" that it was about right and that's what the tallest Rifle was. Its short enough I can slouch and look thru too. I don't find the Rifle particularly ugly or pretty. But I agree, the logo suggests I'm riding a Rifle motorcyle. The worst thing about the Rifle is in the rain the groove between the base and the windshield forms a water channel which dumps right on my hands. '98 PC800W -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:11:12 EST To: TedJ101@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello In a message dated 2/7/99 5:19:56 AM Central Standard Time, TedJ101@aol.com writes: << PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's even better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! >> Dittos. got only 7K out of mine. wonder if they mebbie changed the compound? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2WKTHML; Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:35:09 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: nyfty@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:30:32 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: Say it isn't so! From: Dan Messaros Well let's see, we have had about 34 inches of rain in the past five weeks with no end in sight! Dan Messaros ( with moss growing in my toes) Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's-who is about to burst with our first child!! On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:22:13 -0600 Jim Nyffeler writes: >"The last two afternoons, rain has fallen in the part of Phoenix ..." >A quote from David E. Smith. David say it isn't so, I will be in >Phoenix and surrounding environs the last week of this month. Being >from Nebraska I was so looking forward to all the sunshine! Could I >put an order in for sunshine that week? > > >Jim Nyffeler >nyfty@juno.com >89 PC800 "Nyfty" > ___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page >at To unsubscribe from the >list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to >majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2WKTHQ2; Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:35:09 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:32:24 -0800 Subject: PC800: I will be away for a few days From: Dan Messaros Hi list, I will be away from the list for a few days as my wife Karin gave birth to our first child today. She is a 6lb 13 oz girl and her name is Rebecca. I know this is not PC related, but I am so happy that I just have to tell as many people as I can. I guess I can now start looking for a Z 50!! You know, you can never start them out to young!! And for the next question, no, my wife is not making me sell the PC. I am one of the lucky ones, as my wife loves to ride herself and as you can tell by the bikes we have, she has her own. Lets see, now how can I get that baby seat to fit the PC? Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's ( and new mom!) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:56:20 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Scudder, PCrdr, GBTTrdr, GHrscu" <97PC800@bizgroup.net> To: , "Dan Messaros" Subject: Re: PC800: I will be away for a few days Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:53:51 -0500 Dan wrote: >Hi list, > >I will be away from the list for a few days as my wife Karin gave birth >to our first child today. She is a 6lb 13 oz girl and her name is >Rebecca. I know this is not PC related, but I am so happy that I just >have to tell as many people as I can. >Dan Messaros >Port Angeles, WA Congratulations Dan! Do all you can to nurture and teach this child to the best of your ability. Always love her and let her know it each day. Best wishes, Steve Scudder -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "KD7YD@sprynet.com" To: , , Subject: RE: PC800: Quick hello Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:53:44 -0800 Importance: Normal FWIW, I have 11,000 plus on the OEMs of my '97, and they look like they should go a few more. David David Shumaker Puyallup, Washington (Seattle-Tacoma area) mailto:David@Shumaker.com HTTP://David.Shumaker.com '97 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800), 'Red Peppers' AMA #633741, HRCA # HH696082, HSTA #8327RG -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of RVPC800@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:11 PM To: TedJ101@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello In a message dated 2/7/99 5:19:56 AM Central Standard Time, TedJ101@aol.com writes: << PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's even better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! >> Dittos. got only 7K out of mine. wonder if they mebbie changed the compound? Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:18:43 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: TedJ101@aol.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi Ted, TedJ101@aol.com wrote: > lcshepp@directcon.net writes: > > << The replacement from Dunlop is the OEM tire, the K555. I don't care much > for it > because of the straight groove in the front tire which makes the PC act > squirrely on rain grooves and because they (the K555s) howl. I've got a set > on > my PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's > even > better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> > > Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 > on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! It's most likely two things (no mysteries): 1. I ride my PC pretty easily most of the time; I cruise at 60mph, accelerate and brake easily, etc. 2. Most of the miles are my daily commute. The first 8 miles in the morning and the last 8 miles at night are winding country road; the other 79 miles a day are straight up freeway driving. You can log a lot of miles on a tire that way. Before this bike, I never got more than 8000 out of a set. I just rode a lot differently than I do now and the circumstances are different now. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:21:43 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: David Klein CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi David, David Klein wrote: > YEEE KITTYYY! :-} > > I wondered how he got those kinda miles on his tires. > Seriously though, I've got plenty of tread left on my 97 with 8500mi > on them. Maybe i can get a total of 16,000 mi. on mine. Shure beats > those days of my old 1981 CB750K4 Changed tires every 7to8000 mi. The other thing I forgot to point out is how much better the tires are now than they were 15 or 20 years ago. Jokes aside... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:19:49 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jim Alexander CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi Jim, Jim Alexander wrote: > Leland keeps his trunk filled with Helium Balloons! Damn. My secret's out... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:24:29 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello Hi Russ, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/7/99 5:19:56 AM Central Standard Time, TedJ101@aol.com > writes: > > << PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's > even > better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> > > Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 > on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! >> > Dittos. got only 7K out of mine. wonder if they mebbie changed the compound? I only got 10000 out of my first set of 555s but I was pushing the bike harder than I am now. Much more cornering as well. As far as I know, these are the same 555s as came on my bike in late '93. They howl the same and the tread looks the same. Doesn't mean they couldn't have changed the compound but I doubt it. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:36:04 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Bill McKenna CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: successful lowering? Seat for sale Hi Coasters, Bill McKenna wrote: > Also, Karen has a stock PC seat for sale, blemish where > crotch meets tank, almost center...not real obvous...Rear's > Perfect. $75 for both Front&back, FOB Maine. Bought Corbin. FWIW, that's a good price for both pieces. Honda's price is about $560 for the pair; not including sales tax... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lohan Johnson To: "'jgoula'" , Heather Wells , Cynthia Gulledge Cc: tania , wendy , Kate Fenton , Laura Fenton , Dana Kapla , Jay Gulledge , Scott & Sarah , PC800 , Juan Pablo , Mom , Ivanova Subject: RE: PC800: funny Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:42:53 +0200 Of course, the inventor assured the Patent Office that it will not kill the hijackers, but "merely blind them"! He got the patent though, and the first car it was installed on (usually upmarket BMW's and Mercs) belonged to the police commissioner! Lohan "where's my matches?" Johnson in sunny Johannesburg! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgoula [mailto:jgoula@ims.uaf.edu] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:30 PM To: Heather Wells; Cynthia Gulledge Cc: tania; wendy; Kate Fenton; Laura Fenton; Dana Kapla; Jay Gulledge; Scott & Sarah; PC800; Juan Pablo; Mom; Ivanova Subject: PC800: funny This came from the HSTA list: >If I could put one of these on my bike... >>From CNET Digital Dispatch: > >Because of the recent cold snap, I've been driving my car to >work a lot, and so my thoughts have turned to the vehicular >when it comes to technology. Today's nugget comes from >Johannesburg, South Africa--a city that is plagued with 32.7 >carjackings to every 100,000 cars on the road, or roughly >1,000 a month. The problem is so bad that carjackers routinely >stalk driveways and rush-hour traffic, and even pose as police >to lure cars to the side of the road. The solution? A $650 >flamethrower called The Blaster, which sends a man-high >fireball from either door lock to instantly engulf the >hijacker without harming the paint job of the automobile. To >activate the system, the driver simply pushes a foot pedal for >instant flaming, or it can be left on, or disabled, with a >single switch. > >Of course, I figure this is ripe territory for all sorts of >inventions. For instance, carjackers are starting to look for >the telltale fireball nozzles that are installed next to the >key lock--prompting me to wonder how long before fake >flamethrower nozzles are sold as a cheaper deterrent. And, >with all the idiots in this country who repeatedly trip their >car alarms, you can imagine what stepping on the wrong pedal >could do to a neighboring car. Which, of course, adds new >meaning to the term "flame war." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D2XBP45Z; Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:32:44 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:05:20 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: You Have A Postcard Waiting!! I couldn't the blinkin thing to work either... I sure hope that the motorcycle show works better than the card... We'll Scratch you later. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica On Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:34:15 -0500 Pat McNew writes: >Rod, > >I couldn't get the card to work. Is it me or the system? > > >rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: >> >> Rodney Carey has sent you an internet postcard. >> >> To view it, just go to this web site address: >> >> http://www.motorcycleshows.com/postcards/post.htm >> >> You will need the following information to view your postcard: >> >> Code Number: 2047 >> E-Mail Address: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id A19B10370372; Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:24:11 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:24:54 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: Dan Messaros CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: I will be away for a few days Congratulations Dan! Dan Messaros wrote: > > Hi list, > > I will be away from the list for a few days as my wife Karin gave birth > to our first child today. She is a 6lb 13 oz girl and her name is > Rebecca. I know this is not PC related, but I am so happy that I just > have to tell as many people as I can. > > I guess I can now start looking for a Z 50!! You know, you can never > start them out to young!! And for the next question, no, my wife is not > making me sell the PC. I am one of the lucky ones, as my wife loves to > ride herself and as you can tell by the bikes we have, she has her own. > > Lets see, now how can I get that baby seat to fit the PC? > > Dan Messaros > Port Angeles, WA > > 1990 PC 800 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter > 1988 NX 650 > 1988 Shadow 800 Wife's ( and new mom!) > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:39:20 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview WindShield Installed... To: gwta@voyager.net Cc: pclist Yes, It came with the strip installed. The shield and strip together were $150 delivered. That's another thing that I like better than Rifle... John > > Thanks John, > > I am going to order the same in three weeks. Let me know what you think > of it. Did you get the black out strip they are suppossed to be selling > with it now? > > Thomas > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:40:50 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:24:46 -0500 Several others have reported speedometer cable failures around 30K = miles. Add me to the list. My speedo has been wavering a bit for the = last 1000 miles or so. Since it was kind enough to warn me of its = impending demise, I went ahead and bought a cable a couple of weeks ago. = I finally got around to installing it today. The old one had not yet = broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I = could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the = speedo drive gear survives this kind of torture. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mocha.memphis.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:04:41 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:01:57 -0600 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: PC800: speedometer lubrication To: PC800 Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail hey listers-- Since we seem to be in a speedometer cable failure mode right now, let me ask what others on the list recommend for lubricating the speedometer cable. I ask, because right now I have all of the plastic off my PC (replacing tires, installing new horns and other such) and can so most anything easily. As usual both advice and wit are appreciated. --David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:18:21 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Protective decals Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:18:34 -0500 X-MailServer: Eureka! Gold Internet Server (v2.4 Build 1033) >hey listers-- I've got a 89 which has the Hondaline clear decals on it which were to prevent paint scuffs. They are discoloring after 8 years and I'm trying to get them off. I tried enamel reducer and poly paint thinner but that didn't cut them. I sspent an hr with a hair dryer heatingthem and wife and I picked and peeled all that time and got about a third of one off. Any iteas on getting these off? Randy in GA 89 PC800 90 VX800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Lubrication of the speedometer cable Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:18:16 -0800 For years, I always had a can of 10-40 spray lubricant in my garage. It works great but... One day, I had to lubricate the fan louvers on my whole house fan (they flap constantly when the thing is running). I would lubricate each point where the metal rubbed and about three days later the %##$ squeak would come back :-(. Hmmm. After doing some research, someone recommended a Teflon lubricant. They claim it impregnates(?) the metal? I was skeptical. After trying the 10-40 lubricant over a two month period (it always failed), I went out and found a can of this Teflon stuff. In short, it works WONDERFULLY! One treatment and the louvers have not squeaked for over a year! I threw out all my cans of 10-40 stuff and keep a can of this around at all times. I suspect if you lubricate your speedometer cable (or anything for that matter) with this stuff, your problems will be history. Harrison Spain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:26:44 -0400 To: From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Hello! We have several references to the speedo cable in the PC Repair database -- bring up http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ and search on "speed" to get an idea of how many repairs, which year bikes, and at what mileage. Please, people who have had repairs to their bikes, send me your logs for the repair database. Here are the instructions: http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/info.html If you have a question, please write! The database is a useful tool only when populated with lots of data. You don't have to include your maintenance items at all; it's the repair info that will be most useful. I'm looking forward to your submissions. If you need a hand formatting your data, drop me a line. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: speedometer lubrication Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:27:54 -0800 >hey listers-- > >Since we seem to be in a speedometer cable failure mode right now, let >me ask what others on the list recommend for lubricating the speedometer >cable. I ask, because right now I have all of the plastic off my PC >(replacing tires, installing new horns and other such) and can so most >anything easily. As usual both advice and wit are appreciated. > >--David > Hi David, I've always had good luck with 'Dry Slide' which is a powdered graphite. Roger 98 PC800 Grants Pass, OR -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Quick hello Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:26:43 -0800 I have 10K so far on my original K555s ('96 PC bought new in 7/97) and they still look new. I will have to measure the tread depth one of these days to see how much they have worn. They are excessivly noisey unless you bring the rear up to 41psi and run the front around 35-38psi. They still howl when you lean into sweepers, but not as loudly. I also find the straight groove in the center of the front tire does cause it to wander while riding over rain grooves, worse when riding over bridges with the gridded metal roadbed. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || Rocklin, CA || '96 w/ 10k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: RVPC800@aol.com[SMTP:RVPC800@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:11 PM > To: TedJ101@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Quick hello > > In a message dated 2/7/99 5:19:56 AM Central Standard Time, TedJ101@aol.com > writes: > > << PC now with over 22000 miles on them so they certainly wear well; that's > even > better than the 18000 to 21000 I was getting on the K177s. >> > > Man, I don't see how you get that sort of mileage out of a K555. I got 6000 > on my OEM's -- and that was pushing it on the rear! >> > Dittos. got only 7K out of mine. wonder if they mebbie changed the compound? > > Russ Vernon > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: root@potter.ieee.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:33:02 PST John, Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller shield. Just a thought. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "Desmond Cockburn" , , Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:07:54 -0500 I also got the Edging from Saeng and it works great. I like the look of the stock windshield and did not want to change the looks of the bike by getting a different one. RAR205 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Desmond Cockburn To: root@potter.ieee.uh.edu ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 1:35 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! >John, > >Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out >the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or >turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller >shield. Just a thought. > >Des >95 PC, Dream Weaver >Okmulgee, Ok. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger A. Pattee) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:24:23 GMT On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:33:02 PST, Des wrote: >Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out= =20 >the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or= =20 >turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller=20 >shield. Just a thought. > >Des _____________________________ Does anyone know if the Saeng edging will work on the Hondaline tall windshield? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am unfamiliar with the Saeng trim edging. Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:22:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Roger A. Pattee'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Another battery failure! Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:18:39 -0800 You buy the amount you need and it comes in a long strip so, Yes you can use it with the tall windscreen but you need to estimate how many feet you'll need and order that amount. Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 2/8/99 11:24 AM, Roger A. Pattee [SMTP:rpattee@g-net.net] wrote: > On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:33:02 PST, Des wrote: > > >Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out > >the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or > >turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller > >shield. Just a thought. > > > >Des > _____________________________ > Does anyone know if the Saeng edging will work on the Hondaline tall > windshield? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am unfamiliar > with the Saeng trim edging. > > Roger > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones > we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only > the evil are here. > > Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full > of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to > the next man that dies. > <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. > > http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lohan Johnson To: "PC800 (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Bike shops' service Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:32:41 +0200 I posted this message on a SA biking website, maybe you may find some truth in it as well, I know a lot of you can relate, too. "Ok, guys and girls, I know it is the R of SA we're living in, but does bike shops' service need to be so crappy? I've spend some time with 8 bike shops since I got my Honda (first for a battery and then for a lamp), and they are rude at best over the phone. Surely it can't be all the shops' attitude of "I've-got-something-you-want-and-I-know-it"? *Please* lemme know if you have had good service at a bikeshop/mailorder, I will definitively give 'em a buzz next time I need something. To the rude and flippant dealers out there: money talks, and let's see how your's say goodbye when our bikers' (albeit newbies and unexperienced), whose expendable cash is more than ever, take their business elsewhere where it's appreciated." I feel better already!! Cheers, Lohan Johnson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "Roger A. Pattee" , Subject: PC800: Re: Edging. Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:53:53 -0500 heres their address: The edging will work on any windshield, depending on what you are looking for. Hope this helps. RAR205 http://www.saeng.com/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger A. Pattee To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:33:02 PST, Des wrote: >Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out >the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or >turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller >shield. Just a thought. > >Des _____________________________ Does anyone know if the Saeng edging will work on the Hondaline tall windshield? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am unfamiliar with the Saeng trim edging. Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:00:38 -0000 Hi Jim, Do you know if the cable was lubricated at any time? Also did you notice if had a nylon sleeve (supposed to be self lubricating) Not mentioned in the maintenace schedule of the PC800, but many older bikes need all cables lubricated regularily. Did you have to replace both the inner and outer? Job Sussex Coast ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: 'PC800 List' Subject: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:24 AM Several others have reported speedometer cable failures around 30K miles. Add me to the list. My speedo has been wavering a bit for the last 1000 miles or so. Since it was kind enough to warn me of its impending demise, I went ahead and bought a cable a couple of weeks ago. I finally got around to installing it today. The old one had not yet broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the speedo drive gear survives this kind of torture. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: speedometer lubrication Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:07:59 -0000 I bought a 'cable lubricator' some years ago; not for the PC800 but for old bikes such as my 1979 Moto Morini. It is cylindrical. 1 inch dia. X 5 inches long. On one end you fit the cable. Then fill the cylinder with oil. Screw in in the other end which also has connection for a bicycle pump. Pump it up and the oil is pressure feed through in a few seconds. Many people with 'classic' bikes lubricate all cables couple of times a year. Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: David L. Sigsbee > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: speedometer lubrication > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 5:01 PM > > hey listers-- > > Since we seem to be in a speedometer cable failure mode right now, let > me ask what others on the list recommend for lubricating the speedometer > cable. I ask, because right now I have all of the plastic off my PC > (replacing tires, installing new horns and other such) and can so most > anything easily. As usual both advice and wit are appreciated. > > --David > > -- > David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 > JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 > University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu > Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary J. Kissinger" To: Subject: PC800: Rear shocks Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:56:28 -1000 Hi folks, I haven't been around for a while. I have a 90 PC and I am experiancing a sort of clunk sound from the rear end when I go over bumps and things. It feels like the rebound dampening is shot and that a new shock is needed. Anyone out there ever experiance this sort of thing?? And who out there has replaced the rear shock with something else, and how does it perform?? Thanks, Gary Kissinger from Hawaii Red 1990, 23K on the odometer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:54:13 -0000 Hi Emile, :-)) I have been giving this behavioural difference of 'waving and nodding' some thought! Waving is persumably done with the left hand. Since you 'Continentals and Americans' insist on driving on the 'wrong side' of the road, you need not raise the hand very much. In Britain, the oncoming riders come from the right hand side. In order that they can see the waving we will have have to raise the left hand high into the slip stream, which is not very comfortable or safe. What do you think?! I have voluteered to help the VFR Owners Club which is based just 2 miles from me. Hope to go to Holland within a couple of months as part of a group to ride back some new VFR800FI bikes bought there. Apparently bikes cost 20-25% less in Holland than in Britain. Whilst I am there I will try out this 'waving thing' just to keep the 'locals' happy. At least I will certainly wave to all PC800s, just in case one of them happens to be you... :-) Job Sussex Coast ---------- > From: Emile Nossin > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Waving > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 12:14 AM > > Job, dear fellow. I have no doubt in your ability to ride > safely and I admit I could have stated my text more > subtle. You understand me wrong if you think I was saying > your common sense is not working. We think alike on > the safety topic. > > I thought you would agree with me if said that it is best > to use common sense when wanting to wave. Offcourse > it is best and safest if you never waved at all. But, like the > front braking discussion ( : )), it is not correct to then > conclude that "waving is dangerous". The fact that it > is forbidden during motorcycling tests is no argument > to conclude that it is thereby dangerous. There is a nuance > difference here. > > I congratulate you with your safety record which is without > a doubt thanks to your terrific attitude. Never waving will > insure that you have no accident that could be related to the > fact that you let go of the handlebar. Never riding a motorcycle > will also help. If I want to open my visor because of fogging I > have to let go of the handlebar with one hand in order to > prevent an emergency. In that case I would have failed your test, > yet I would have done the safest possible thing, a calculated risk, > but the safest choice nevertheless. > > I'm merely trying to state that it is better to say that it COULD be > safest to keep your hands on the handlebars at all times. > But it is too simple to say that "waving is dangerous". If you (not you > Job, but 'you' in general) use common sense when waving, there > is hardly any increase in safety risk. > > I hope you understand the thought of my previous message now. > Communication can be a tricky thing sometimes. : ) > > Emile > http://fly.to/emile > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: PCSG Ltd. > Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Datum: vrijdag 5 februari 1999 19:25 > Onderwerp: PC800: Waving > > > >I follow the training and guidelines by: > >1. RoSPA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents) Advanced > >Motorcyling Tests; > >2. Institute of Adavnced Motorcyclists Tests. > > > >Candidates follow 'Motorcycle Roadcraft', The Police Rider's Handbook and > >take several hours of training under the supervision of a qualified > >Observer. To pass tests by any of these organisations, one need to pass a > >90 minute test covering all types of roads, followed by a Class 1 Police > >Examiner. > > > >Only time the rider is allowed to take the hand off the handlebars is only > >in an emergency, such as to give hands signals in the event of failure by > >indicators. > > > >I personally have had an accident-free record of over 20 years > >(motorcycles, cars, hang gliders, aircraft groups a A, D and SLMG) and in > >over 30 countries. > >So, I think my hands are where they should be and my common sense and > >priorities are fuctioning okay. > >Otherwise, I would not have passed the RoSPA Test which need to be taken > >every 3 years to keep it valid. > > > >With all due respect to you Emile, I feel it will be safer for me to ignore > >your 'top of the head' remarks. > > > >Job Chithalan > >Sussex Coast > >---------- > >> From: Emile Nossin > >> To: PC800 > >> Subject: Re: PC800: Waving > >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:41 AM > >> > >> >Waving is a dangerous practice; at least in the crowded streets of > >Britain. > >> >Here we look at each other and nod... > >> >Job Sussex Coast > >> > >> Holland is the single most densly populated country in the world > >> next to Bangladesh and I life in the most crowded part of Holland > >> but yet I can't agree with your statement that waving is dangerous. > >> Waving isn't dangerous....crashing is. Whether you're riding, driving > >> or flying you just have to use common sense. The PC is perfectly > >> rideable with one hand, no problem. Need your clutch --> nod. > >> Need your vision in front of you --> act like a Harley rider. > >> If you don't know how to prioritize this stuff, don't ride. Simple.... > >> Riding a motorcycle isn't dangerous right up to the point that you > >> forget it's dangerous...... > >> YMMV blah blah.... > >> ___ > >> [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" > >> [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > >> > >> "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... > >> ...crashing is........" > >> > >> http://fly.to/emile > >> ICQ 17992318 > >> Emile@Cybercomm.nl > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Visit the PC800 web page at > >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:03:00 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 , HSTA Subject: PC800: Crazy? I know most of you think we Alaskans are crazy for living up here. I'm pretty sure the following will confirm that opinion :) http://www.alaska.net/~arcticmn/pictures.htm Enjoy! -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.85°N, Long.: 147.72°W The best long distance runners in the world eat raw meat, run naked, and sleep in the snow. - from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:22:50 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Hi Job, Give Emile a big wet sloppy kiss for me... We'll Scratch you later. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: recarey1@mmm.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:26:39 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Waving Hi Job, Give Emile a big wet sloppy kiss from all of us in the USA We'll Scratch you later. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:38:19 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: "Leland C. Sheppard" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: successful lowering? Seat for sale MERRRRRRRRRRRRY CHRISSSSSSSSSSMAAASSSS! B "Leland C. Sheppard" wrote: > > Hi Coasters, > > Bill McKenna wrote: > > > Also, Karen has a stock PC seat for sale, blemish where > > crotch meets tank, almost center...not real obvous...Rear's > > Perfect. $75 for both Front&back, FOB Maine. Bought Corbin. > > FWIW, that's a good price for both pieces. Honda's price is about $560 for > the pair; not including sales tax... > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast > "Black Beauty" > 124,000 miles > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA The size of your body is of little account; The size of your brain is of much account; The size of your heart is of the most account of all. -B.C. Forbes Open your heart, visit the Ride for Kids(r) @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Rear shocks Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:11:05 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have a similar issue with my brand new 98. I had assumed that either = the centerstand was rebounding, or something was bouncing around in the = trunk (going over those "25 mph" speed bumps that Fremont likes to put = in residential zones at around 30-35 mph.) (BTW, I made a change in my email program to try to fix the "long lines" = problems Netscape users are having reading my messages. Please let me = know (off-list) if it's working.) Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gary J. Kissinger[SMTP:zzeek@GTE.NET] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 12:56 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Rear shocks Hi folks, I haven't been around for a while. I have a 90 PC and I am experiancing a sort of clunk sound from the = rear end when I go over bumps and things. It feels like the rebound dampening = is shot and that a new shock is needed. Anyone out there ever experiance this sort of thing?? And who out there = has replaced the rear shock with something else, and how does it perform?? Thanks, Gary Kissinger from Hawaii Red 1990, 23K on the odometer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Rear shocks Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 01:22:44 +0100 >Hi folks, >I haven't been around for a while. >I have a 90 PC and I am experiancing a sort of clunk sound from the rear >end when I go over bumps and things. It feels like the rebound dampening is >shot and that a new shock is needed. Hi Gary. Had the same problem with my '90 PC at first. After studying the manual I found out the (left) rear shock was adjustable and saw that mine was set to the lowest setting (1 I believe). This setting gave me allmost a hernia when hitting a little pothole. I set it to the hardest setting (nr. 4 I believe) and havn't really had the problem since. It also made the PC more stable in turns (I think). If you havn't got the standard Honda factory manual, you can download the most important (scanned) pages from my website: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip (3mb). If you have not got an unzip program, winzip can be downloaded for free at: http://www.winzip.com . I hope that solves your problem. I see you're from Hawaii. Please don't tell me what the weather is like, or I'm gonna kill myself ; ). I wasn't able to take my PC to work today because of the enormous amount of hail we had. It looked like snow, but it was just hail, but slippery enough to prevent my rear wheel to make any traction to get out of the driveway. It was so slippery it even made a B747F from ELAL slip of the end of the runway with it's nosewheel. Spectacular site BTW. Greetings from a snow forecasted, white and slippery Holland, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" 32K [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "Flying isn't dangerous at all..... ...crashing is........" http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl >>>> Anyone out there ever experiance this sort of thing?? And who out there has replaced the rear shock with something else, and how does it perform?? Thanks, Gary Kissinger from Hawaii Red 1990, 23K on the odometer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Fw: PC800: Waving Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:36:04 -0000 Hi Rod, Will do.... Should make him 'throw up' for the third time! lol Job Sussex Coast ---------- > > From: recarey1@mmm.com > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: Re: PC800: Waving > > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 9:26 PM > > > > > > > > Hi Job, > > > > Give Emile a big wet sloppy kiss from all of us in the USA > > > > > > We'll Scratch you later. > > Rodney Carey `94 PC800 > > St. Paul, Minnesota `Monica > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BMillman@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:40:59 EST To: desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Edging In a message dated 08/02/99 18:33:59 GMT Standard Time, desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com writes: << Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller shield. Just a thought. >> The rider's height must come into this one. I am 5''7" and went to a lot of trouble ordering Saeng edging when I visited Florida in November. On arriving home, I quickly fitted the edging and went out hoping for a reduction in noise and a clear pocket of air to sit in. Alas, total waste of time and money - there was no difference! Glad it works for you Des. Safe Riding, Brian Millman Reading England 90PC 800 - Candy Red (with Palm Trees) - 15k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:04:37 +0700 From: Oh Lai Timg To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Hi all, I just replaced the cable. Initially, I thought it's to be a easy job. However, after dismantle and I found it's very difficult to screw it out by hand or tool. Therefore, I've removed all the front cover including the windscreen. It look me almost 2 hr. to fit back. During the installation, I realized that the cable must not entangle to any object by turning the handle bar fully left and right. At the same time, be careful about the wheel cover. The cable must go through the bracket with as same as the break fluid cable. This is important as my cable was cut with the cover pressed. As for lubrication, I applied some grease on the both end. I think that is good enough. Rgds...Oh Lai Timg <<>>>> Jim Randall wrote: > Several others have reported speedometer cable failures around 30K miles. Add me to the list. My speedo has been wavering a bit for the last 1000 miles or so. Since it was kind enough to warn me of its impending demise, I went ahead and bought a cable a couple of weeks ago. I finally got around to installing it today. The old one had not yet broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the speedo drive gear survives this kind of torture. > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:05:43 -0500 I've had the bike since 5K miles - the cable was never lubricated - = probably should have. Honda doesn't sell the inner / outer components separately - you have to = buy the assembly - I think it was about US$18. The new cable was = slightly smaller in diameter (outside) and seemed a bit more flexible = than the original on my '95.=20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PCSG Ltd. [SMTP:pcsg@mistral.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 3:01 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Hi Jim, Do you know if the cable was lubricated at any time? Also did you notice if had a nylon sleeve (supposed to be self = lubricating) Not mentioned in the maintenace schedule of the PC800, but many older = bikes need all cables lubricated regularily. Did you have to replace both the inner and outer? Job Sussex Coast ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: 'PC800 List' Subject: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:24 AM Several others have reported speedometer cable failures around 30K = miles. Add me to the list. My speedo has been wavering a bit for the last 1000 miles or so. Since it was kind enough to warn me of its impending = demise, I went ahead and bought a cable a couple of weeks ago. I finally got = around to installing it today. The old one had not yet broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the speedo drive gear survives = this kind of torture. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: For Sale Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:39:58 -0600 Hello, Been a while since I was on the list, but have read a few of your comments on the HSTA list. Anyway, to the point, my PC is for sale. 1990 PC800 (Candy Red) 34.5K miles (more if it stays warm in Iowa) K&N Air Filter 90 Stock Wind Screen and 89 Stock Wind Screen - on the bike ThrottleMeister throttle lock Voltmeter and Clock (analog - marine quality - water proof) New Metzlers New Works Perfornance Shocks and fork springs Service Manual - other what nots. Oil always changed every 3,000 miles, Golden Spectro, Always tuned up each spring, You can respond by e-mail or if you need a voice, 515.628.2964 Located in Pella, IA $3,500 Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" (Ann, I see you've kept the Ghost monniker - neat) ((Bitten by the ST bug)) (((Has any one on the list seen the 1999 official Honda literature for the Sport Tourer models - only 2 bikes are listed now, instead of 3.))) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D2Y5N638; Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:25:50 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:58:27 -0600 Subject: PC800: Saeng Edging From: Jim Nyffeler I have the tall Hondaline windshield (with 2" removed from the top so I could see over.) I added the edging to make up for the -2". It seems to work. Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D2Y5N674; Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:25:50 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:23:42 -0600 Subject: PC800: Trip Report From: Jim Nyffeler Could not stand-it any longer. Broke out the PC and met some friends for a Sunday ride. Weather person promised high 50's low 60's, (He or She lied). Only got as high as 48 or 50. All went well until the sun went down. Then I got cold! Riding buddies have Widder electric vest and stayed warm. Has anyone on the list rigged up their PC for a vest? I have the Battery tender pigtail on my battery. I'm thinking that I can make a patch cord that has the proper end for the pigtail and the proper end for the vest. Any ideas? PS: High temp here today (Monday) 65 PSS: Covered about 200 miles of winterscape Nebraska and had a great Mexican dinner. Jim Nyffeler nyfty@juno.com 89 PC800 "Nyfty" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57782U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:53:04 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:39:14 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Bike shops' service I really like the local dealership in my area...(Honda/Polaris of Lubbock)...Very friendly. Before I bought my used '90 PC, they had a '96 PC that I almost bought. *I was at the bank ready to sign the paper's...Changed my mind* They seemed a little disappointed that I didn't buy from them, but they're still very friendly and give great service. The owner (Morris Baker) , always greet's me with a smile and a handshake, and still remembers my name. James Lubbock, Tx. Lohan Johnson wrote: > I posted this message on a SA biking website, maybe you may find some > truth in it as well, I know a lot of you can relate, too. > "Ok, guys and girls, I know it is the R of SA we're living in, but > does > bike shops' service need to be so crappy? I've spend some time with 8 > bike shops since I got my Honda (first for a battery and then for a > lamp), and they are rude at best over the phone. Surely it can't be > all > the shops' attitude of "I've-got-something-you-want-and-I-know-it"? > *Please* lemme know if you have had good service at a > bikeshop/mailorder, I will definitively give 'em a buzz next time I > need > something. To the rude and flippant dealers out there: money talks, > and > let's see how your's say goodbye when our bikers' (albeit newbies and > unexperienced), whose expendable cash is more than ever, take their > business elsewhere where it's appreciated." > > I feel better already!! > Cheers, > Lohan Johnson > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57162U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:41:35 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David A. Ah Sing" To: "PC 800 Web List" Subject: PC800: The latest of my "Hit and Run Saga" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:33:53 -0800 On the 17th of January between 0600 and 0615, some good (or not so good) = soul rear ended my PC. To add injury to insult after running into my = bike, they attempted to put it back up and instead pushed it over on its = opposite side thereby breaking not only one but both rearview mirror = assemblies. I was fit to be tied... =20 Allstate Insurance Co. said that I could take my broken mount to any = shop I wanted. I selected one of their "Priority Repair Option" shops = in the area. These good folks had an excellent reputation so I had my PC = transported there. They said that they repaired motorcycles (yeah = right!). Instead, the estimator told me that they would need some extra = time since they had never done a repair to a Fully Tupperwared Motor = like the Pacific Coast. After Two weeks, the Allstate adjustor called = me to say that the aforementioned 'shop' could NOT effect repairs. I = figured that they must have in fact kept my bike for the last two weeks = to take pictures with their girlfriends on or something. After many = we're sorrys from Allstate, my PC is finally at M&J Motorcycle Repair in = Lancaster, CA, where I probably should have taken it in the first place. = Repairs total approximately $2500. One irony is that some of the = panels will need to be painted and guess where M&Js has their painting = done? (at the place where my bike was originally taken). =20 The second and final irony is that the day before my "accident", I = had remarked that "Life was good"! Ah well, I live and learn; thanking = God that I wasn't sitting on my PC when someone 'good soul' elected to = modify her. am I venting? You bet I am... See ya on the = road, Dave Ah Sing =20 = 89 PC Recycled Lady =20 insult=20 after running into my bike, they attempted to put it back up and instead = pushed=20 it over on its opposite side thereby breaking not only one but both = rearview=20 mirror assemblies.  I was fit to be tied...   =
    Allstate = Insurance Co. said=20 that I could take my broken mount to any shop I wanted.  I selected = one of=20 their "Priority Repair Option" shops in the area. These good = folks had=20 an excellent reputation so I had my PC transported there. They said that = they=20 repaired motorcycles (yeah right!).  Instead, the estimator told me = that=20 they would need some extra time since they had never done a repair to a = Fully=20 Tupperwared Motor like the Pacific Coast.  After Two weeks, the = Allstate=20 adjustor called me to say that the aforementioned 'shop' could NOT = effect=20 repairs.  I figured that they must have in fact kept my bike for = the last=20 two weeks to take pictures with their girlfriends on or something. After = many=20 we're sorrys from Allstate, my PC is finally at M&J = Motorcycle Repair=20 in Lancaster, CA, where I probably should have taken it in the first=20 place.  Repairs total approximately $2500.  One irony is that = some of=20 the panels will need to be painted and guess where M&Js has their = painting=20 done?  (at the place where my bike was originally taken). =20
    The second and = final irony is=20 that the day before my "accident", I had remarked that = "Life was=20 good"!  Ah well, I live and learn; thanking God that I wasn't = sitting=20 on my PC when someone 'good soul' elected to modify her.
          &nbs= p;        =20 am I venting?  You bet I=20 am...         See ya on the = road, =20 Dave Ah Sing 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 89 PC Recycled Lady      =
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:41:06 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: AGV R7 Textile Jacket?? Anyone here have any experience with the AGV R7 Textile Jacket?? Just wondering JPatton 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:12:29 EST To: jrandall@tricon.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K In a message dated 2/8/99 10:41:53 AM Central Standard Time, jrandall@tricon.net writes: << The old one had not yet broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the speedo drive gear survives this kind of torture. >> Well, it don't always. Shortly after replacing my speedo cable my drive gear bought the farm as well. I can't help but believe that it was related. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:12:30 EST To: desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com, root@potter.ieee.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another battery failure! In a message dated 2/8/99 12:33:59 PM Central Standard Time, desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com writes: << Unless you're just in love with the Clearview shield you might check out the Saeng/TA edging stories in the archives. I get very little noise or turbulance from my Saeng edging and it saved the cost of a taller shield. Just a thought. >> Yup me too. Worth its weight in gold. Well, silver anyway. Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:26:27 EST To: nyfty@Juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report In a message dated 2/8/99 10:42:07 PM Central Standard Time, nyfty@Juno.com writes: << Has anyone on the list rigged up their PC for a vest? >> Hi Jim Yes, several of us have. I ran me a quick connect under my seat terminating under the lid for the gas cap access. It keeps it handy and out of the way and for over 3 years has been hassle free. I also store the quick connect for my CB radio in there as well. I just close the lid with the wires sticking out the sides when I want to use it. I remember a few months ago I was telling someone about the way that I have mine rigged and someone else being terrified that that would blow the bike up or something!!! However, it is easy to be afraid of things that we do not understand, so again, if you wish to mount your quick connect there, by all means, do so. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell@aol.com for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:32:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:32:06 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 94 PC for sale My '94 is for sale due to financial problems. Only 2500 miles, and included add-ons include Rifle tinted windshield, Hot Grips, service manual and a Dow cover. Asking $4600 or best offer. Bike is located in central NJ. E-mail Al at Akoell@aol.com or call (609) 586-0217. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Barrett, Chris" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: A question about weight capacity Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:11:49 -0500 Dear PC800 List Subscribers, I bought a 98 PC800 last year (new) and I love it! I've taken a couple of moderately long rides by myself, but have yet to take along a passenger for any considerable distance. Excellent bike, even after 14 hours on the road. According to the PC800 Web SIte (http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/), the weight limit on the bike (passenger and cargo) is about 357lbs (this was for a 1994). Considering that I weigh 205, and my passenger weighs 150, this doesn't leave a lot of capacity for cargo. My questions are as follows: 1. Is the weight limit for the 1994 identical to the 1998? 2. What would the consequences of going over the limit by, lets say, 25 lbs be? 3. Suspension-wise is there a way to increase the weight limit? 4. Should I and the passenger just go on a crash diet? I'd appreciate any insights/advice anyone might be able to provide. Please send all responses to the e-mail address below. Thanks! Chris Barrett cbarrett@ocsea.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: , "Jim Nyffeler" Subject: Re: PC800: Saeng Edging Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:06:10 -0700 Did the edging change the back pressure created by the tall Hondaline? Bill Jackman 89~23k (w/tall Hondaline) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Saeng Edging >I have the tall Hondaline windshield (with 2" removed from the top so I >could see over.) I added the edging to make up for the -2". It seems to >work. > > >Jim Nyffeler >nyfty@juno.com >89 PC800 "Nyfty" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:18:45 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report To: nyfty@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Jim, I have a full Gerbing's Ultimate outfit w/gloves & socks. I installed a BMW style DC outlet in my fairing to plug it into. It works great! The BMW style is smaller than the one you have in your car and Gerbing supplies a cord with a BMW plug as an option. I used a John Deere outlet which is the same style, but about $20 cheaper. I also plug my Battery Tender into the same outlet when I store the bike using the cord that came with the Tender and the BMW cord that came from Gerbing's. That means you could just plug your heated clothes directly into the pigtail you already have on your bike because the ends are compatible. I don't know what Widder users though. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" nyfty@juno.com writes: >Could not stand-it any longer. Broke out the PC and met some >friends for >a Sunday ride. Weather person promised high 50's low 60's, (He or >She >lied). Only got as high as 48 or 50. All went well until the sun >went >down. Then I got cold! Riding buddies have Widder electric vest >and >stayed warm. > >Has anyone on the list rigged up their PC for a vest? I have the >Battery >tender pigtail on my battery. I'm thinking that I can make a >patch cord >that has the proper end for the pigtail and the proper end for the >vest. >Any ideas? > >PS: High temp here today (Monday) 65 >PSS: Covered about 200 miles of winterscape Nebraska and had a >great >Mexican dinner. > > >Jim Nyffeler >nyfty@juno.com >89 PC800 "Nyfty" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:09:01 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: PC800 Rider CC: nyfty@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report PC800 Rider wrote: > > I don't know what Widder users though. > > Widder uses the BMW/John Deere plug. The John Deere part numbers are AL25073 (socket/outlet) and RE11344 (plug). About $5.50 for the outlet and about $10.50 for the plug at any John Deere mower or tractor dealer. I have ordered about 20 of these in the last year for friends. They work great. PS. Widder is coming out with a long sleeved vest very soon. I guess it would be called a liner instead of a vest. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:21:00 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jim Randall CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: another speedometer cable failure @ 30K Hi Jim, Jim Randall wrote: > Several others have reported speedometer cable failures around 30K miles. Add me to the list. My speedo has been wavering a bit for the last 1000 miles or so. Since it was kind enough to warn me of its impending demise, I went ahead and bought a cable a couple of weeks ago. I finally got around to installing it today. The old one had not yet broken but it was so damaged/worn/bound/? that after removing it, I could not turn it with my fingers. It's really quite amazing that the speedo drive gear survives this kind of torture. My cable went at about 70000 after being misrouted after a tire change. I'm pretty sure it got pinched at that time. I'm wondering if others are having the problem because the cable is not properly routed in such cases? Food for thought... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "Chuck Chiodini" , "PC 800 Club" Subject: Re: PC800: 4 way flasher relay ?? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:35:46 +0100 Hi Chuck, I'm sorry that You fried Your flasher unit just to help me! This is far out of line what someone would do for somebody you hardly know. I'm proud to be one of the PC owners on the list !!!!! Thanks !!!! I would love if You could get hold of tw of these relay You use. I've tried to get them here but without luck. Let me know the price including freight and I will send You the amount . My adress: Arvid Løvik Kornblomsttunet 18 N-4027 Stavanger Norway Thanks so much !! Arvid -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chuck Chiodini To: lovik@writeme.com Date: 9. februar 1999 18:45 Subject: Re: PC800: 4 way flasher relay ?? Arvid: Hope these directions help you out. If you send me your address, I'd be more than happy to send you the same relay that I successfully use. On a side note; I fried my flasher yesterday while switching around the connections to see what it would do....duhhhhh Hazard Flasher Installation 1) Open the trunk. Locate the rear wiring harness connector block mounted just forward of the trunk liner on the left side of the bike. 2) Identify the ORANGE wire (Left turn signals) and the Light Blue wire (Right turn signal). Do not cut these wires but splice a jumper wire onto each. Connect the two jumper wires you just made to the "P" and "L" spade connections on a standard three-prong flasher unit. NOTE: It doesn't matter which wire goes to which connector. 3) Run a wire from your "hazard light switch" to the flasher unit and connect it to the "X" connector. NOTE: You will fry the flasher unit if you connect this "hot wire" to any other connection on the flasher unit. 4) Now for the fun part…test ride! 5) A rendition of the three prongs on the flasher unit to orient you to where the wires go. -------- "P" (jumper from either light on bike) "X" --------- ------- "L" (jumper from either light on bike) (Hot wire from switch) Chuck in Fayetteville,NC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D22WAXX8; Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:55:18 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:40:47 -0800 Subject: Fw: PC800: A question about weight capacity From: Joyce D Calvert PS -- Go ahead and respond to the list also on this one, okay? I'd like to have these questions answered also. Thanks!!! Joyce Sonoma County Dear PC800 List Subscribers, I bought a 98 PC800 last year (new) ... My questions are as follows: 1. Is the weight limit for the 1994 identical to the 1998? 2. What would the consequences of going over the limit by, lets say, 25 lbs be? 3. Suspension-wise is there a way to increase the weight limit? 4. Should I and the passenger just go on a crash diet? I'd appreciate any insights/advice anyone might be able to provide. Please send all responses to the e-mail address below. Thanks! Chris Barrett cbarrett@ocsea.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "PC 800 Club" Subject: PC800: ICQ numbers to listmembers !! Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:58:29 +0100 Hi gang, I lost all data on my computer on friday.EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! Could not get it up and running and got a new startup-disc from the = backup center in the mail today. So if You have a ICQ No. please let me = have it on my list . Thanks ! If Bill Gates would built cars (or bikes), this is how they would have = been : 1. The vehicle would have one unexplainable mishap two times a day. 2. Every time the marker stripe on the road was re-painted You had to = buy a new vehicle 3. Sometimes the vehicle drove off the road without any reason at all. = This was to be accepted by You. You had to start the vehicle again and = drive onto the road once more. 4. Sometimes,under special manouvers,as taking a left turn, the vehicle = would drive straight ahead and refuse to obey.To fix this You had to = change the motor. 5. The vehicles would not be delivered with more that one seat, and You = could choose from "Car 98"-seat or "CarNT"-seat. Each seat had to be = paid for separately. 6. The competitors would have made vehicles running on solar energy,five = times faster and half the the weight.But they could not use more than 5 = % of the road width. 7. The Airbag would ask: "Are you absolutely certain ?" before released. 8. Sometimes the vehicle would lock it self. To get this fixed You had = to pull the doorhandle at the same time you turn the starter-key and = held a hand around the antenna to the car radio. 9. GM would force you to buy a bunch of maps from Rand McNally with = every vehicle, even if you did not want any maps. If You chosed not to = buy these maps, the vehicle would drive 50% slower. Because of this GM = would be dragged to court ever so often. 10. Every time GM came on the market with a new model, the drivers had = to learn to drive again because no controls functioned as it did on the = previous model. Peace to all!! Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/15279399 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen = 15279399@pager.mirabilis.com For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ For adding similar signatures to your e-mail go to: = http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Homepage is found at : http://members.tripod.com/Lovik/ My Fax Number is: + 47 - 51 54 23 99 My Home Telephone Number is: + 47 - 51 54 37 96 Arvid L=F8vik ---------------------------------------------------- h me by=20 ICQ. My ICQ# is 15279399 or,
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:07:39 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: Arvid =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik?= CC: Chuck Chiodini , PC 800 Club Subject: Re: PC800: 4 way flasher relay ?? Another way it to run a jumper left to right via a switch. Turn on the directionals and the switch and = 4 ways @ $1.29 FWIW -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA The size of your body is of little account; The size of your brain is of much account; The size of your heart is of the most account of all. -B.C. Forbes Open your heart, visit the Ride for Kids(r) @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:21:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'Bill McKenna'" , =?us-ascii?Q?Arvid_Lovik?= Cc: Chuck Chiodini , PC 800 Club Subject: RE: PC800: 4 way flasher relay ?? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:18:29 -0800 Aw come on, thats too simple and too cheap for someone on a PC. It has to be at least a $10.00 solution or it just won't work. OK... I have it, make the switch one of the marine waterproof switches and use some kind of special wire ... It should bring the total cost to over the $10.00 mark. ;-) Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 2/9/99 2:08 PM, Bill McKenna [SMTP:BMcKenna@mint.net] wrote: > Another way it to run a jumper left to right via a switch. > Turn on the directionals and the switch and = 4 ways @ $1.29 > > FWIW > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA > > The size of your body is of little account; > The size of your brain is of much account; > The size of your heart is of the most account of all. > -B.C. Forbes > > Open your heart, visit the Ride for Kids(r) @ > http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk > > ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:42:17 -0500 From: Jeff Leech To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Electric clothes(was Re: PC800: Trip Report) I have a widder vest and chaps. I also have a pigtail that I have off the battery for my Battery Tender. Radio Shack sells the same connectors that the Battery Tender uses, so I just replaced the widder connector at the battery end with the one for the battery tender. I just route the cable up through the bodywork where the trunk closes, and just leave the widder plug hanging out an inch or so. I just remove the extra connector when not in use. I use a similar arrangement on my Buell. Jeff Leech '94 PC-800 '95 Buell S-2 Centerville, OH PC800 Rider wrote: > > Jim, > I have a full Gerbing's Ultimate outfit w/gloves & socks. I > installed a BMW style DC outlet in my fairing to plug it into. It > works great! The BMW style is smaller than the one you have in your > car and Gerbing supplies a cord with a BMW plug as an option. I > used a John Deere outlet which is the same style, but about $20 > cheaper. I also plug my Battery Tender into the same outlet when I > store the bike using the cord that came with the Tender and the BMW > cord that came from Gerbing's. > > That means you could just plug your heated clothes directly into > the pigtail you already have on your bike because the ends are > compatible. I don't know what Widder users though. > > Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 > Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > > AMA #688662 > HSTA #8387 > > "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" > > nyfty@juno.com writes: > >Could not stand-it any longer. Broke out the PC and met some > >friends for > >a Sunday ride. Weather person promised high 50's low 60's, (He or > >She > >lied). Only got as high as 48 or 50. All went well until the sun > >went > >down. Then I got cold! Riding buddies have Widder electric vest > >and > >stayed warm. > > > >Has anyone on the list rigged up their PC for a vest? I have the > >Battery > >tender pigtail on my battery. I'm thinking that I can make a > >patch cord > >that has the proper end for the pigtail and the proper end for the > >vest. > >Any ideas? > > > >PS: High temp here today (Monday) 65 > >PSS: Covered about 200 miles of winterscape Nebraska and had a > >great > >Mexican dinner. > > > > > >Jim Nyffeler > >nyfty@juno.com > >89 PC800 "Nyfty" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger A. Pattee) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Subject change-location of battery pig tail Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:15:44 GMT I think the neatest idea, and I don't remember who did it, or where it came from (the list or someone's web site, or where ever) is the idea of putting the battery connector in the passengers foot rest area. When the footrest is in the up position..unseen. When needed, just fold down the passenger's foot rest, and remove the cap..and there it is! That is one slick idea! Kudos to whomever thunk thatin up! Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:04:18 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Jim Nyffeler CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report Hi Jim, Jim Nyffeler wrote: > Has anyone on the list rigged up their PC for a vest? I have the Battery > tender pigtail on my battery. I'm thinking that I can make a patch cord > that has the proper end for the pigtail and the proper end for the vest. > Any ideas? I have a full complement of Widder gear; gloves, vest and chaps. I regularly use the gloves and vest. Widder supplies a fused cable that has round connectors on the battery end and one of their two prong plugs on the other along with a couple of wire ties. I loosened the battery post bolts enough to slip the ends of their cable in, reinserted and tightened the bolts and I had juice. I then used the wire ties to route their cable up into the trunk along side the other wiring going that direction. I let the loose end of their cable hang in the trunk until I need it and then slide the plug end of their cable out between the two sections of the PCs seat. I use a Motoport Husky suit over the vest. I velcroed the Widder thermostat on the inside of the chest portion of that suit. I cut through the inside of one of the upper pockets and covered the cuts with a slit piece of duct tape to keep the cuts in the lining and in the pocket from enlarging. I ran the cable from their thermostat out through the slits into the pocket. I store the end of the cable in that pocket until it's needed. Since the pocket is a "slash" design, I can drop the end of the cable out of the pocket and close the velcro covers back over the pocket and get no water into it. Then I can plug that cable into the one coming from the battery, sit on the plugs and voile! Instant heat in an insulated, waterproof suit. Hope that helps. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:31:46 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: "Barrett, Chris" CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: A question about weight capacity Hi Chris, Barrett, Chris wrote: > Dear PC800 List Subscribers, > > I bought a 98 PC800 last year (new) and I love it! I've taken a > couple of moderately long rides by myself, but have yet to take along a > passenger for any considerable distance. Excellent bike, even after 14 > hours on the road. Agreed! > According to the PC800 Web SIte > (http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/), the weight limit on the bike > (passenger and cargo) is about 357lbs (this was for a 1994). > Considering that I weigh 205, and my passenger weighs 150, this doesn't > leave a lot of capacity for cargo. > According to the tag in the trunk of my '94 (confirmed by the Honda Owner's Manual), the weight limit is 369 lbs. That gives you an additional 12 pounds. My wife and I are almost identical in terms of weight to you and your passenger. We've had no problems at all even with the trunks loaded. The weight of our weekend gear is not all that great so we probably don't exceed the limit by more than a few pounds. > 1. Is the weight limit for the 1994 identical to the 1998? As far as I know that did not change from 1989 to 1998. You should have the same tag in your trunk, I expect. It is the one that shows tire pressure, size, etc. > 2. What would the consequences of going over the limit by, lets > say, 25 lbs be? If you have your rear suspension set up a ways (I run mine at the second or third setting from the bottom all the time; I haven't changed it even for a two-up trip) and you keep your tire pressure up (I run my rear at 41# and my front at #36 pounds) you should be OK. You will feel the difference, probably, as I do but everything performs OK. > 3. Suspension-wise is there a way to increase the weight limit? No, just to handle the weight better by setting the rear on a stiffer setting. But as far as I know that adjustment does NOT increase the limit. I'm talking stock suspension now. > 4. Should I and the passenger just go on a crash diet? > That's up to you. I'm hopeless on the subject (big grin); I like to eat too much... > Hope that helps. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:37:20 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Steve Wilson CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report Hi Steve, Steve Wilson wrote: > Widder uses the BMW/John Deere plug. The John Deere part numbers are > AL25073 (socket/outlet) and RE11344 (plug). About $5.50 for the outlet and > about $10.50 for the plug at any John Deere mower or tractor dealer. I have > ordered about 20 of these in the last year for friends. They work great. My Widder gear uses a flat 2-prong plug and socket arrangement to hook the Widder clothing together. Is yours different? Or is it just the final plug you are talking about? For that, mine just hooks directly to the battery posts and that cable also has the flat 2-prong socket on the end of it. >From yours and other descriptions, I assume the BMW/John Deere plug/socket is a round one? (Like a cigarette lighter?) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 124,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:33:50 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: PC800 Rider CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Trip Report Hi Tim, PC800 Rider wrote: > That means you could just plug your heated clothes directly into > the pigtail you already have on your bike because the ends are > compatible. I don't know what Widder users though. Widder uses a flat 2