********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 08:00:49 -0600 To: RVPC800@aol.com From: "Richard A. Nadeau" Subject: Re: PC800: CB's (part 3) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Russ, There was one problem with your radio, if you remember. You wore off the antenna connector at the base of the antenna from taking all those turns from all your trips to Deal's Gap!! Happy New Year everyone... Richard Nadeau Nashville, TN 22 degrees brrr At 11:18 PM 12/30/98 EST, you wrote: >Almost forgot- I have a small $40 CB radio mounted in what used to be my left >fairing pocket. The push to talk switch and helmet hookup was wired by a >friend that knows how to solder. I bought the radio at Wally World (Walmart), >and saved about $200+ bucks over a kit price from Sierra. The radio is a >Uniden Pro 510 XL in case anyone out there is interested in a winter project. >I have had not a single complaint with mine, and the folks that I ride with >say that it sounds great. > >Russ Vernon >'95 PC 800 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DXVUFZR5; Fri, 01 Jan 1999 09:59:49 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:55:51 -0500 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Leather jackets From: miketwh@juno.com (Mike T Whited) Actually, If you think about it, Cows wouldn't exist if we weren't carnivores. And what would motorcycling be without leather? (I had to tie this in with the PC list didn't I?) Mike Whited '94 PC 3 leather jackets. On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:41:10 -0500 Jim Randall writes: >Actually I rather suspect the cow was murdered to make steaks, pot = >roasts and hamburgers; the jacket is just a by-product. Tigers, = >leapords, seals and such are murdered for their fur ... not sure I put >= >the cow on the endangered species list just yet. > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net >http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Emile Nossin [SMTP:Emile@Cybercomm.nl] >Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 8:18 PM >To: PC800 >Cc: Yuri vd Hooren; Maarten; Arjan Hiemstra; Erik Baretta; >Giuseppe; = >Humberto Vieira Rijo; Jan Gerritsen; Marco Reitsema; Martijn Buter; = >Victor Hageman; Yetvart >Subject: PC800: Leather jackets > >> From another list: >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> >>>"A lady came up to me on the street and pointed at my leather >>>jacket. 'You know a cow was murdered for that jacket?' she sneered. >>> >>>I replied in a psychotic tone, 'I didn't know there were any >>>witnesses. Now I'll have to kill you too." >___ >[_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > >"If you protect yourself, you protect your family" > >http://fly.to/emile >ICQ 17992318 >Emile@Cybercomm.nl > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:41:09 EST To: leakysneaker@mindspring.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: CB's (part 3) In a message dated 1/1/99 8:02:57 AM Central Standard Time, leakysneaker@mindspring.com writes: << Russ, There was one problem with your radio, if you remember. You wore off the antenna connector at the base of the antenna from taking all those turns from all your trips to Deal's Gap!! >> Ahem! You got me there Richard! Actually, if I had mounted my antenna correctly the first time that never would have been a problem anyway. Now the only thing that touches down during spirited riding is the tips of my footpegs- and I hope that it stays that way! Happy New Year to you and to everyone else on the list. Now may I propose a belated toast? May the only damage to everyone's plastic this year be the cutting up of Mastercards and Visas! Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: '89 for sale (auction) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:58:40 +0100 >URL for auction: >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=52749292 >Picture not shown on auction: >http://www2.ecqual.net/~dingess/honda.jpg > Has anyone figured out allready what kind of windshield that '89 has ? It looks like an extended tall Honda screen, very strange. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much.." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:20:32 -0400 To: "PC800" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: '89 for sale (auction) At 4:58 PM +0100 1/1/99, Emile Nossin wrote: >Picture not shown on auction: >http://www2.ecqual.net/~dingess/honda.jpg > >Has anyone figured out allready what kind of windshield that >'89 has ? It looks like an extended tall Honda screen, very strange. >___ >[_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort Hello everyone. I just checked out the link Emile posted with the picture of that 89, and that screen does look kind of weird. At first glance the screen looks likes it is much too tall. After looking at it some more, I also think that the whole picture is too tall. The PC in the picture looks short and high compared to normal. I'm not sure if it was a bad angle for the camera, or maybe the picture was cut and pasted without preserving the proper aspect ratio. It sure looks like a really tall screen.....I can't imagine anyone being able to see over that one. Happy New Year everyone! I'm off to the Motorcycle Show in Toronto. Bye for now..... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CyVaquero@aol.com for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:56:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:56:17 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Leather jackets (Off Topic) Oh yes, I remember growing up as a poor farm boy in the Susquehana Valley of Pennsyltucky. I remember the thundering herds of wild Holstein Cows, herds so large that you could not see the beginning nor the end as they wandered by. All until the white man came. Seriously though can any one think of any creatures other than cows, pigs, and chickens that were more perfectly designed to be eaten, milked and worn? $.02 Guy C. Heckman -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:14:07 -0800 From: Bob Ronecker <@freewwweb.com> To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: Motorcycle Show Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Happy New Year everyone! I'm off to the Motorcycle Show in Toronto. > > Bye for now..... > > fsl > >Can't wait for the show to reach St Louis, Mo. Anybody on the list that makes it to the show please post any interesting stuff. Bob Ronecker 94PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: RVPC800@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: CB's (part 3) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:18:04 PST Hey, >Almost forgot- I have a small $40 CB radio mounted in what used to be >my left fairing pocket. The push to talk switch and helmet hookup was >wired by a friend that knows how to solder. I bought the radio at >Wally World (Walmart), and saved about $200+ bucks over a kit price >from Sierra... But there is a handheld CB kit available from Sierra for $199, including the MIDLAND handheid CB, handlebar mount, grip mount PTT switch, and headset hookups. The only thing you need to solder is the DC supply to the transceiver. Hope these help. - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 30 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: Wong Wing... Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:18:18 -0000 Yup! Philip is a great guy! Job Sussex England ---------- > From: rodneycarey@juno.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Wong Wing... > Date: Friday, January 01, 1999 1:19 AM > > Wong Wing... > Wong Wing... Wong Wing... > Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... > Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... > Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... Wong Wing... > > So what's the idea here... I got a Wong Wing... Thanks to the splendid > effort of Constable Wong, he made special accommodations for me and I > have never even met the gentleman. This was not a straight up for-profit > business deal because I think the price charged is very moderate > considering the quality and uniqueness of the Wing. I believe his helping > newbies like myself is some of the glue that holds together a group such > as ours. > > Thank you ever so much Philips Wong. May tender mercies and blessed > events follow you all of your days. > > Happy New Year, > > > /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... > \ \ \______ / (cracked my brain bucket in a crash) > \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 > \ \ \/ / / > \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" > \ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles > \/_/ 8500 Miles and more to come... > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: '89 for sale (auction) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:20:23 +0100 >> >Picture not shown on auction: >> >http://www2.ecqual.net/~dingess/honda.jpg >Hello Dutch it is a tall hondaline touring windshield . Thanks Susan > No it's not. I have a tall Honda and it's not a tall Honda. It has the shape of one but it looks like it has an extra extension at the base. Only the extension seems to be flush with the rest of the screen which makes me think it's not custom made by anyone. It must be good windsurfing with that screen. The 'vacuum' behind it must be enormous. Thanks for thinking with me, Susan. : ) ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: '89 Manual Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:43:44 +0100 Click on the next Url (or copy and paste into your browser) to download the +/- 55 scanned pages of my '89 manual (that I got with my '90 PC...) : http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip (3mb) If you have not got an unzip program, winzip can be downloaded for free at: http://www.winzip.com . I scanned and editted them so that they would not be too big (to download) but that the pictures would be sharp enough. To print use word(pad), your browser, paintshop or any other program (like Adobe photoshop). You might want to turn it 90 degrees to get it on an A4 piece of paper or you could set your printer to print horizontally ('landscape mode' with my Epson). If you have any questions or want more pages of the manual or if you are not able to print them correctly, let me know, I'll talk you thru it if necessary. Allthough most of us have allready survived the subscribe majordomo ritual, so it shouldn't be too hard. : ) I'm not sure yet how long I'll keep it on my site, but it will stay there for at least a few weeks I think. Good luck and happy new year to y'all, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much...." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:54:00 -0500 Subject: PC800: Toronto Motorcycle Show To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I'm at the Toronto Motorcycle Show now. It's 10 PM on New Year's Day and the temperature is -17C, +1F. The perfect weather to go shopping for motorcycle goodies. I took a quick spin through the show this afternoon with a couple I met at the Honda Homecoming this past July, Dena & Rob. Dena is the Pacific Coast rider. We had a great time, lots to see. I was especially impressed (enough to make it my first PC800 purchase of the new year) with the new driving/fog lights from Sport Touring Accessories (pemble@dnet.net). They are compact, powerful and really enhance the look of the PC800. Mounted below the stock headlight, they are out of the way but have a clear path to light up the road. They sell for $129 US$ (clear lens), or $139 US$ (ionized lens- I think that was the term- that cuts through fog better), switch is included. He has them boxed and ready to go out the door. It was nice to see a booth with a selection of PC800 addons- cruise controls, windshields, fog lights. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:58:01 -0500 From: Susan Dingess To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: windshield Hello Emile, I have 96 pc with the same windshield and it is a hondaline tall touring windshield . The windshield measures 30 inches from top to bottom you may want to double check yours. Thanks Susan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: windshield Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:18:57 +0100 Is it your windshield ? I just noticed that the Url has your name in it. My tall Honda looks a lot shorter. I have pictures on my site, but the best one to compare it with is this one: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/images/pcsideshine.jpg http://www2.ecqual.net/~dingess/honda.jpg Apparently Honda made several screens in different lenghts ? I haven't measured mine yet, but it looks way shorter. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If you protect yourself, you protect your family" http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Susan Dingess Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Datum: zaterdag 2 januari 1999 4:10 Onderwerp: PC800: windshield >Hello Emile, I have 96 pc with the same windshield and it is a hondaline >tall touring windshield . The windshield measures 30 inches from top to >bottom you may want to double check yours. Thanks Susan >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:50:00 +1200 To: PC800 Rider From: Richard Proctor Subject: PC800: Nolan Helmets and Teknic touring suits >From comments previously I gather Nolan helmets are reasonably well thought of. Any comments from anyone about Teknic cordura touring suits with various armour shields (knee, etc) and spine and butt pads. I'm shopping around and found a dealer with some old stock who will haggle, especially for a complete set of riding gear. My last helmet was a Bell but they are hellish expensive here. I can get the Nolan for about US$100 before we start haggling. The Teknic gear starts at $US250 for the jacket and US$200 for the pants. Bootwise I shall dig out some old but servicable sheepskin "dress" mid calf boots I've had for years. Emile, does your Mummy know the hours you keep? Regards Richard Proctor "Herr Bummel" New Zealand -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! Hi all, Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > I have taped a key to the inside of a piece of easily removed plastic to > my bike. It has stayed there for two years. I keep a key hidden on all > my vehicles. I have one PC key to put in the ignition; it's on a leather fob by itself so I wouldn't scratch up the plastic with my other keys. I carry the other PC key on a ring with my house key and other keys. I keep that second ring in a pocket separate from the one used for the ignition. It has saved me a couple of times: locked one key in the trunk, used the other to retrieve it. Food for thought... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: '89 Manual Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:25:20 +0100 I'd like to know if anyone allready succesfully downloaded and unzipped the file I uploaded. Susan is having trouble unzipping and I wondered if she's the only one. It could answer some questions. Thanks, €mile http://fly.to/emile Manual: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via smtpd (for mailrelay.data-io.com [139.138.100.89]) with SMTP; 2 Jan 1999 21:00:10 UT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Cotes, Steven" To: PC800 , "'Emile Nossin'" Subject: RE: PC800: '89 Manual Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:02:01 -0800 Emile, yes and yes. I've downloaded and unzipped. Spot checked 3 of the the files and they look great. Thanks for sharing. Now if there was just a nice way to get the microfiche into a PDF format. I'm heading to a MC show in Seattle tomorrow, I'll update the list on anything that catches my eye. - steve cotes - '96 PC800 - Near Seattle > ---------- > From: Emile Nossin[SMTP:Emile@Cybercomm.nl] > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 1999 12:25 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: '89 Manual >=20 > I'd like to know if anyone allready succesfully > downloaded and unzipped the file I uploaded. > Susan is having trouble unzipping and I wondered > if she's the only one. It could answer some questions. > Thanks, >=20 > =80mile > http://fly.to/emile >=20 > Manual: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip >=20 >=20 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: "Pacific Coast Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:03:10 -0500 I have a friend who has a key (copy made at Honda shop....flat without the plastic "handle") secured in the fold of a piece of heavy-duty black duct tape. A wiretie is pushed through the duct tape through the ring-hole in the key, and the whole thing is secured just above the horn on the fork. Ready for quick removal in case of lockout, but nearly invisible, even if you're looking for it. I like to carry copies of my doorkey to my car as well as my cycle key in my wallet. Shoot, I have duplicates of keys hidden all over the place. (If only I could remember where they all are........) Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC800 (currently hibernating) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux To: jamesalexander@csi.com Cc: rbowen@budget.net ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thursday, 31 December, 1998 22:44 Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! >I have taped a key to the inside of a piece of easily removed plastic to >my bike. It has stayed there for two years. I keep a key hidden on all >my vehicles. >Don't you want to kick me! I am such a smarty pants! >Rocky in Virginia > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DXY9RPDH; Sat, 02 Jan 1999 17:50:01 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:10:52 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: '89 Manual I did a down load and an unzip right after you put it up. There were no problems however on the first attempt the file did a incomplete download. I guess it was noise on the backbone... can't see how it could have anything to do with your web page. Be sure to check the size of the xxxx.ZIP file it should be in the order of 3043KB. It unzips 29 xxxx.JPG files. Nice work there Flying Doucheman _____ ________________________________ ______ /\####/\ CrackHead Rod... /\####/\ / \##/ \ (Cracked Me Helmet In A Crash..) / \##/ \ /____\/____\ 1994 PC800, Name: "Monica" /____\/____\ \####/\####/ August 20,1998 2600 Miles.. \####/\####/ \##/ \##/ 8762.9 Miles and more to come.. \##/ \##/ \/____\/ ________________________________ \/____\/ On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:25:20 +0100 "Emile Nossin" writes: >I'd like to know if anyone allready succesfully >downloaded and unzipped the file I uploaded. >Susan is having trouble unzipping and I wondered >if she's the only one. It could answer some questions. >Thanks, > >€mile >http://fly.to/emile > >Manual: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 02 Jan 1999 18:46:56 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: Wing 'tips" Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:45:01 -0500 Got the wong wing today and I am scared to death to drill holes on my = beloved PC. I may call for some help from one of my 'body shop' = friends. If anyone can offer advice on installation or wiring, I would appreciate = it. I was surprised to read "....REMOVE DUCK TAIL and mind the tabs as = not to break them." It says to consult the service manual. I dont have = a service manual. If anyone has tricks for this procedure, please let = me know. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:38:12 -0800 (PST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: sale of a great bike for a lucky person happy new year to everyone on the planet just came back from new york visiting friends relatives etc.. big surprise in ten days i didnt see one biker!!! had a little snow and very low temps now to the business at hand i owna 1992 bmw k-1 royal blue 4700 miles and want to sell it as i dont ride it!! am too busy riding my pc helix and coming next week a 1999 black aspencade the price is really flexible for the very lucky person who wants it hey emile in the netherlands this would be great for ytou!! cmon everyone lest hear from you on a very beautifuyl machine that has been cared for with tlc i am original owner again happy nea year joel kasof cupertino calif 98 helix 93 bmwe k-1 98 pac coast 99 aspencade (almost) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:49:07 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: service manual: copy pages Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:46:04 -0500 Would one of you mind to help this 'new kid on the block'. I am reading = these instructions for installing the Wong Wing and I have determined = that I need some help on the wiring. I have a new PC and have never = looked at any of the wiring and am unsure on how to locate the wires = that I need. If someone wouldn't mind, I would like to ask them to copy a few pages = from the service manual and snail-mail them to me... a- removing the duck-tail section of the trunk b- removing the passenger seat c- wiring socket (infront of left side of trunk) where the=20 tail light, brake light, and ground wires are. e-mail me off list I and will try to give you more info and my address Hope this isnt asking too much! ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:06:27 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: HSTA List , Ohio Star List , pc 800 list Subject: PC800: Florida calling, Elliot you there??? --------------5CF1CF339F8C18C0A72D355D With all this nasty white stuff on the ground.... I guess it's time for another 2-week Florida TRIP.... lesse, to get ready I'll need a new rear tire for the PC800 bike, and a trailer to put the bike on, (did Joe just say trailer.... speaking of which my 16' flatbed is way too big for just one or 2 bikes, anyone got a loaner???) So You florida folks got anything else happening? I called Leesburg this afternoon, and they say their shindig is on for FEB 13. So sounds like a plan, now do I go Feb 6-20 or ?-29 or 20-Mar 7... I thought about doin Bike Week but not sure what I want. Then again the sale guy said the 1999 ST1100's should be in any day now....... (did Joe imply that he's lookin at a new bike. YES! but I will keep the PC800 too contemplating doing funeral escorts with it...) ==Life is short---Go ride!== Fireman Joe Beresford CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy Email to my pager: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net ))) --------------5CF1CF339F8C18C0A72D355D With all this nasty white stuff on the ground.... I guess it's time for another 2-week Florida TRIP....
lesse, to get ready I'll need a new rear tire for the PC800 bike, and a trailer to put the bike on,
(did Joe just say trailer.... speaking of which my 16' flatbed is way too big for just one or 2 bikes, anyone got a loaner???)
So You florida folks got anything else happening?  I called Leesburg this afternoon, and they say their shindig is on for FEB 13.  So sounds like a plan, now do I go Feb 6-20 or ?-29 or 20-Mar 7... I thought about doin Bike Week but not sure what I want. Then again the sale guy said the 1999 ST1100's should be in any day now.......
(did Joe imply that he's lookin at a new bike. YES! but I will keep the PC800 too contemplating doing funeral escorts with it...)

==Life is short---Go ride!==
Fireman Joe Beresford
CINCINNATI, OH USA!!!
http://w3.one.net/~cableguy
Email to my pager: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net
(((Email address altered to slow spam)))
((( take out the no. before one.net  )))
 
  --------------5CF1CF339F8C18C0A72D355D-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:24:42 EST To: cableguy@one.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, ohstar@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Florida calling, ? Yo Wazzup! Looks like a couple of Winger friends of mind have just about succeeded in talking me into riding down with them to Daytona for Bike Week this year. I have never been and the two of them go every year and say that is a blast. I would like to go and see the Daytona 200 mile race mainly because I have wanted to for over 30 years and have not done so. Question: Have any of you ever been to bike week and if so is it worth the endeavor? I am only around 800 miles from there so I guess that we can make it in one day weather permitting. Then a few days there and another day possibly two to come home. And suggestions? Thanks in advance Russ Vernon 95 PC 800 57,000mi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:35:20 EST To: pca420@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Daytona, hassle or heaven? Hey Group! I have a couple of Winger buddies that have finally nagged me enough to go with them to Bike Week in Daytona this year. Question: Any of you good people ever make the trip and if so what might I expect? Should I maybe save my $ and spend it elsewhere? I would really like to see the Daytona 200 mile motorcycle race at least once in my life, and I have been wanting to go see it for over 30 years now. Your thoughts are appreciated. Russ Vernon 95 PC 800 57,000mi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:38:26 EST To: RVPC800@aol.com, cableguy@one.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, ohstar@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Florida calling, ? OOPS! Sorry about the two letters! I thought that I had deleted the first one and I guess that I sent it instead. Oh well, first boo-boo of the new year. It wont be the last. Russ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: '89 Manual Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:22:25 +0100 >Nice work there Flying Doucheman > I heard that ! Not that there's anything wrong with it : ) Any female volunteers ? €mile Nossin '90PC "The Flying D##ch#man" €urope, Holland, Santpoort http://fly.to/emile > _____ ________________________________ ______ > /\####/\ CrackHead Rod... /\####/\ > / \##/ \ (Cracked Me Helmet In A Crash..) / \##/ \ >/____\/____\ 1994 PC800, Name: "Monica" /____\/____\ >\####/\####/ August 20,1998 2600 Miles.. \####/\####/ > \##/ \##/ 8762.9 Miles and more to come.. \##/ \##/ > \/____\/ ________________________________ \/____\/ > > >On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:25:20 +0100 "Emile Nossin" >writes: >>I'd like to know if anyone allready succesfully >>downloaded and unzipped the file I uploaded. >>Susan is having trouble unzipping and I wondered >>if she's the only one. It could answer some questions. >>Thanks, >> >>€mile >>http://fly.to/emile >> >>Manual: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >>a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:41:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:41:12 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Daytona, hassle or heaven? Russ writes: << Question: Any of you good people ever make the trip and if so what might I expect? Should I maybe save my $ and spend it elsewhere? >> I think you should go at least once. I try to make it down there about every 5 years or so. Prepare for big crowds, lots of traffic and high prices (if you can find one, a cheap motel in or around Daytona = $125 / night last time I went--about 5 years ago). If all you want to see is the 200, then staying way out of town and commuting in for the race is the economical way to go. If you want to see "the natives" do their thing on Main Street and see all the bike shows/vendor fairs, you'll need to stay a bit closer in (make a reservation now if you can--things fill up pretty early) and pay the tariff. All-in-all, it's quite a show and worth the trip once in a while. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX2TW9K4; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:26:52 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:27:49 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: '89 Manual On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:22:25 +0100 "Emile Nossin" writes: >>Nice work there Flying Doucheman >> >I heard that ! >Not that there's anything wrong with it : ) >Any female volunteers ? > >€mile Nossin '90PC "The Flying D##ch#man" >€urope, Holland, Santpoort >http://fly.to/emile > Har Dee Har... Har... Goof... Goff... Grin... Grin... \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX2UDJ4X; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:34:41 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:35:38 -0600 Subject: PC800: How Do You..... Emile.....?? How do you put the little €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ in your email?? \\\|/// \\ // ( ? ? ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: How Do You..... Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:22:02 +0100 >Emile.....?? >How do you put the little €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ in your >email?? > Micro$oft can tell you all about the €uro sign: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/euro.asp > chortle.. chortle.. > Deep breath now, Crackman.. That's it, very good. Now don't forget your medication next time, okay ? €mile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: A Sad Story! Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:58:20 -0500 Ditto, I always hide a key on each of my vehicles. It only takes one such "adventure" to make it worthwhile. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux [SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 10:44 PM To: jamesalexander@csi.com Cc: rbowen@budget.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! I have taped a key to the inside of a piece of easily removed plastic to my bike. It has stayed there for two years. I keep a key hidden on all my vehicles. Don't you want to kick me! I am such a smarty pants! Rocky in Virginia ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'HSTA List'" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Aerostitch - staying warm tip Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:59:50 -0500 This is my first winter with an Aerostitch garment. I've found that the = large vent zipper across the back which is so wonderful in the summer = months allows quite a bit of unwelcome cold air to pass even when = zipped. I stay much warmer by taping this zipper on the inside of the = jacket for winter riding. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX2ZWZEL; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:11:36 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:12:29 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: How Do You..... Convert € To Other Stuff?? €mile old boy I think I got it... other stuff now needs to be convertee from what they was... to the €... Righty right...?? How would the € convert to the following??? A kilometer is the distance a large cat can be shot out of a cannon packed with a kilogram of black powder. The fact that a 1000 meters = 1 kilometer is entirely coincidental. A kilogram was based roughly on how much cocaine you could by for €100K. The gram was a similar measure, based on the size of a paperclip. 10**12 microphones = 1 megaphone 10**6 bicycles = 2 megacycles 500 millineries = 1 seminary 10 cards = 1 decacards 1/2 lavatory = 1 demijohn 10** -6 fish = 1 microfiche 10**12 pins = 1 terrapin 10**21 picolos = 1 gigolo 10 rations = 1 decoration 10 millipedes = 1 centipede 3 1/3 tridents = 1 decadent 5 holocausts = 1 Pentacost 10 monologues = 5 dialogues, = 1 decalogue 2 monograms = 1 diagram 8 nickles = 2 paradigms 2 snake eyes = 1 paradise 2 wharves = 1 paradox On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:22:02 +0100 "Emile Nossin" writes: >>Emile.....?? >>How do you put the little €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ in your >>email?? >> >Micro$oft can tell you all about the €uro sign: >http://www.microsoft.com/windows/euro.asp > >> chortle.. chortle.. >> >Deep breath now, Crackman.. That's it, very good. >Now don't forget your medication next time, okay ? > >€mile \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( X X ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* CrackHead Rod, 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:20:55 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi all. Got my Wong Wing installed today. I actually managed to get the thing = decently lined up and installed on the first try, and I'm extremely = happy with the results. It took a total of 2.5 hours. Here is a list = of things that I noted during my install: 1. Check out the toolkit in the trunk. It contained the allen wrench = needed to remove the handrails/seat, as well as the Phillips screwdriver = that I used to remove the duck tail. (Even if you have a power = screwdriver, I recommend the one in the toolkit, since it was exactly = the right size, so there much less chance of stripping the screw heads.) 2. Lining the stuff up was the longest part of the install. I used = Scotch tape to mark the bottom right corner of where each piece of foam = would go so I could place the foam after removing the Wing. Since I was = working on this by myself, it was a bit tough, so if you can, have a = friend help. (I was impatient.) I found that after I had stuck the = foam down, I hadn't positioned it right, so the two side posts didn't = mount flush to the trunk. No problem--the foam peeled right off and = restuck without any problems. 3. I have a second-level apartment. This means I had to fashion an = extension cord out of several smaller extension cords and drop it out my = window to the parking lot below. Since I don't have a parking spot = right there, it involved riding from my parking spot to the cord = whenever I wanted to drill holes or use the soldering iron. 4. I used 5/16" holes, slightly elongated from front to back as = suggested by Job, and a 3/8" hole for the wire to go through. I then = used a rubber "Hole Grommet" in the 3/8" hole to keep the wire from = chafing on the plastic, and to further discourage any water from = entering the trunk. 5. After looking down the inside of the duck tail, I realized that it = would take me forever to try to get those two center screws in there, so = I decided to try removing the duck tail. This turned out to be = exceedingly easy. There are about 12 screws inside the lid. Once they = are removed, you'll see two "tabs" on the back of the duck tail where it = meets the surrounding trunk lid. By pulling the two pieces apart, you = can slip the tab out of there without breaking anything off. After = that, slip the duck tail off around the two rear handrail mounting = holes, and it pivots forward. (Be careful not to damage the foam trim = around the seat. The duck tail can't be completely removed without = cutting this foam.) I then mounted the two center screws, using penny washers as suggested = by Job to spread the load on the plastic. Slip the duck tail back into = place, screw it back together and put the two outside screws into the = Wing and you're set! 6. On my '98, the wires I needed were on the left side, just forward of = the trunk. They can be reached by opening the trunk--no bodywork = removal was necessary. I unplugged the harness closest to me, and it = had brown, green, green/white and a couple of others. Since I wanted my = Wing to function only as a brake light, I cut away the resistor = completely and just used the diode. I used a "Tap Splice" to tap into = the green wire and connected it to the black wire on the wing. I then = "Tap Spliced" the green/yellow and soldered the diode inline with the = black/white wire on the Wing. I used a long piece of shrink tube to = cover the wiring and plastic-tied it to the rest of the wiring so the = trunk wouldn't close on it. Turned on the key, hit the brake, and it = works great and is very bright. That's about it. I strongly recommend removing the "duck tail" unless = there is a specific reason you can't. It took me less than 3 minutes to = figure out how to remove the duck tail and less than ten minutes to = remove it, put the Wing on, reattach the duck tail and finish mounting = the Wing. What's next on my list? I have my Kimpex grip warmers that I'll be = installing, hopefully next weekend. The switch that comes with them is = pretty hideous, and I want to save the blank panel above the "Start" = button for remote Set/Resume/Cancel buttons for a future cruise control = install, so I'm thinking about checking out the Goldwing catalog to see = if there is a nice panel I can install below the "glovebox" on the = fairing, and mount a nice rocker switch (with LED) and power tap there, = with the actual cruise control unit below that, and maybe a variable = resistor slider for a Widder vest (also on my list for the future.) BTW, I heard that there is a group of PC riders here in the SF Bay Area = that get together and ride once in a while. Is the instigator of that = group on this list? If so, please email me. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 19:29:11 +0000 From: Roger Pattee To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings from a new listee... Greetings, and Happy New Year to the list. Newbie here (to the list), and wanted to say that I have been bitten by the PC bug, ever since I first saw them. I currently ride a Spirit, but am in the process of finalizing a deal on one of two PC's (yeah, I am the current high bidder on the Ebay PC!). Not new to motorcycling however...more info about me can be gathered from my web home page at; http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html Again, Happy New Year, and soon..yes soon, the Spirit will have a partner in the garage. Roger aka Motordawg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:32:48 -0500 (EST) To: tim@clevenger.org (Tim J. Clevenger) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Happy New Year Tim Thank you for telling us about the installaton of your Christmas present. I'm thinking about buying one. Can you tell me how to contact Mr. Wong to order one? Also how much does it cost? Please e-mail me direct and thanks in advance. My wife and I went for a walk last night checking out the winter wonderland/storm damage. We were still under a snow emergency (emergency vehicle traffic only). 2 snowmobiles (traveling really fast) passed us as we were walking down the street. We saw a third headlight coming toward us thinking it was a slower moving snowmobile. To our surprise and amazement it turned out to be a person on a moped. The rider was using his legs/feet as skis to prevent his wiping out. I got a chuckle out of that sight. We got 7-9 inches of snow from the storm. Dave Klein DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne, IND. --- Awarded; "All-American City" status for 1999 "Happy New Year" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from a new listee... Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:45:23 -0500 Roger; Welcome to the group! Elton Hammond '97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Pattee To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: January 3, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings from a new listee... >Greetings, and Happy New Year to the list. > >Newbie here (to the list), and wanted to say that I have been bitten by >the PC bug, ever since I first saw them. I currently ride a Spirit, but >am in the process of finalizing a deal on one of two PC's (yeah, I am >the current high bidder on the Ebay PC!). > >Not new to motorcycling however...more info about me can be gathered >from my web home page at; > >http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html > >Again, Happy New Year, and soon..yes soon, the Spirit will have a >partner in the garage. > >Roger aka Motordawg > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:35:29 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) You have to remove the seat to install the Wong Wing?? Oh man............ :( I really would not want to go through that again after I installed my Utopia backrest! JPatton 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:15:32 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Emile Nossin CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: '89 Manual Hi Emile, Emile Nossin wrote: > I'd like to know if anyone allready succesfully > downloaded and unzipped the file I uploaded. > Susan is having trouble unzipping and I wondered > if she's the only one. It could answer some questions. I downloaded it just now and was able to unzip and view the first few jpg's just fine. -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: defective backrest brackets To: pclist Here is something that has been discussed before on this list, but not for a long time. It may be a major safety issue to those of you with passenger backrests. The brackets made by Honda for the passenger backrest are defective. They have failed too often for it to be a coincidence. It happened to me last week. Luckily for me, I was not carrying a passenger at the time. I was just riding up the street, minding my own business, when (without warning) both welds broke and the backrest fell of my bike into traffic. No accident this time, but it was a close call for the people behind me who were swerving to avoid the peices. Needless to say, it would have been much worse if a passenger were leaning on it at the time. Take your own lessons from this, but be careful, and tell your passengers to hold on always. John == PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: pc800 online club (yahoo) To: pclist Here is another way for us to stay in touch. I'm open to suggestions as to how/if we use it. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/pc800 John == PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:52:39 -0400 To: John La , pclist From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: defective backrest brackets If anyone else has experienced this, please send me a note privately including, if you can, the date and mileage on your bike when the backrest failed, and I'll add the items to the PC Repair/Maint database at http://noc.dal.ca/~daniel/pc-maint/ Right now there are NO records for failed backrests. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com'" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: service manual: copy pages Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:41:11 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Michael. Please see my other post for info on removing the duck tail and wiring. The passenger seat is incredibly easy. There are four allen-head bolts = holding the handrails in. The proper tool is in the toolkit in your = trunk. When you have all four bolts out, lift on the handrails, and the = seat and rails will come out as one piece. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Michael D. Linkous[SMTP:mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 1999 4:46 PM To: Pacific Coast Subject: PC800: service manual: copy pages <> Would one of you mind to help this 'new kid on the block'. I am reading = these instructions for installing the Wong Wing and I have determined = that I need some help on the wiring. I have a new PC and have never = looked at any of the wiring and am unsure on how to locate the wires = that I need. If someone wouldn't mind, I would like to ask them to copy a few pages = from the service manual and snail-mail them to me... a- removing the duck-tail section of the trunk b- removing the passenger seat c- wiring socket (infront of left side of trunk) where the=20 tail light, brake light, and ground wires are. e-mail me off list I and will try to give you more info and my address -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'DavidAklein@webtv.net'" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:50:56 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Phillips Wong can be reached at pca420@hotmail.com. It's about $140 including shipping. I think that if I lived in the snow belt I'd buy an Elite and bolt skis to either side to make a kinda poor man's snowmobile. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Klein[SMTP:DavidAklein@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 12:32 PM To: Tim J. Clevenger Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Happy New Year Tim Thank you for telling us about the installaton of your Christmas present. I'm thinking about buying one. Can you tell me how to contact Mr. Wong to order one? Also how much does it cost? Please e-mail me direct and thanks in advance. My wife and I went for a walk last night checking out the winter wonderland/storm damage. We were still under a snow emergency (emergency vehicle traffic only). 2 snowmobiles (traveling really fast) passed us as we were walking down the street. We saw a third headlight coming toward us thinking it was a slower moving snowmobile. To our surprise and amazement it turned out to be a person on a moped. The rider was using his legs/feet as skis to prevent his wiping out. I got a chuckle out of that sight. We got 7-9 inches of snow from the storm. Dave Klein DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne, IND. --- Awarded; "All-American City" status for 1999 "Happy New Year" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: A Sad Story! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:08:05 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hmm.. And where do you park your PC during the day? I could always use a spare set of wheels. ;-) Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux[SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 7:43 PM To: jamesalexander@csi.com Cc: rbowen@budget.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! I have taped a key to the inside of a piece of easily removed plastic to my bike. It has stayed there for two years. I keep a key hidden on all my vehicles. Don't you want to kick me! I am such a smarty pants! Rocky in Virginia ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX5XZXM2; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:35:58 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rbowen@budget.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:18:44 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! From: snowmoer@juno.com (Dan Messaros) I have always feared of doing the same thing. I keep a spare key in the inside pocket of my riding coat. It is nice to know that If I do not have my coat on, that I can still get into the trunk by removing a few parts to get to the cable. Dan Messaros Port Angeles, WA 1990 PC 14,900 miles and sleeping for the winter 1988 NX 650 1988 Shadow 800 Wifes On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:05:17 -0800 "Roger Bowen" writes: >Let me tell you a tale. I wanted some potato salad (and a quart of >milk) to >go with my steak tonight so I hopped on the bike and went down to >Safeway. >I stuck my helmut in the trunk and went into the store. It was a mob >scene, >but I finally made it thru checkout and went to get my bike key out of >my >pocket. NO KEY!!! I thought back and remembered that I had set it on >the >interior ledge of the trunk when I was taking off my helmut and then, >closed >the trunk without realizing I had locked the key inside. To make >matters >worse it had started to rain. So, what to do? Call a cab, try to >call a >neighbor, or ???? I stood outside the store for a while collecting my >thoughts (and cursing at myself under my breath). I decided to offer >anyone >who was willing $10 to ferry me home for the extra key and back to my >bike >at Safeway. On my second try, I got an elderly gent who liked the >sound of >the deal and did the ferry job in his old Mercedes. When we got back >to the >store I found I only had $20s in my wallet. He had only $8 in change, >so it >ended up costing me $12. That was one expensive tub of potato salad. >I >sure hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come in 1999. > >Hope you all have/had a Very Happy New Year. > >Roger Bowen 98 PC800 >Grants Pass, OR > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "pclist" Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 online club (yahoo) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:03:26 -0800 >Here is another way for us to stay in touch. > >I'm open to suggestions as to how/if we use it. > >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/pc800 > Hi John, It looks like that would be very useful as an on-line chat room. I can visualize myself in the midst of some repair job and needing some realtime advice. Thanks to whoever set it up. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:06 -0400 To: "pclist" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 online club (yahoo) At 12:03 PM -0800 1/4/99, Roger Bowen wrote: >>Here is another way for us to stay in touch. >> >>I'm open to suggestions as to how/if we use it. >> >>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/pc800 >> > Hi John, > >It looks like that would be very useful as an on-line chat room. I can >visualize myself in the midst of some repair job and needing some realtime >advice. Thanks to whoever set it up. > >Roger > > > How does this chat room differ from the one on the PC800 home page? fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 15:12:58 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 online club (yahoo) Looks as if the messages are stored on their hard drive instead of yours.??? -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 15:17:59 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: rpattee@g-net.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from a new listee... Welcome and Happy New Year to you also.
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  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Clip Art Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:19:33 PST Hey gang, I am in the process of putting together a contact card to give to folks I meet on the Road and would like to put a clip art PC on it. A few weeks ago a list member posted a clip art PC that I think was done by Corel and was labeled as a Gold Wing. As luck would have it I deleted that message. Do any of you have the URL for the site that the pic came from or do any of you have any URL's for clip art of the PC ? I've spent at least a couple of hours with various browsers looking at clip art sites but no luck. I downloaded the picture from the Honda web site and it looks great on the card but it's a 98 and mine is a 95. I don't have a scanner to scan any of the photos I already have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Chuck Chiodini" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A weird tale Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:51:15 PST Taking two weeks vacation leave from my military duties, I decided to ride my PC800 from Fort Bragg, North Carolina to my retirement ranch in Heber Springs, Arkansas. I've made this trip on my bike many times in the past and is a really good 1,058 mile ride if you stay off the interstate. Why tempt fate on a bike in the middle of the winter? Cause I'm a "biker"! Not the "look at me on a Harley" or the kind that trailers his bike ANYWHERE. I love to ride, and I'm not talking about a poker run or other "get togethers". I mean RIDE, so except for ice, I had no hesitation. First 800 miles went fine until the sun went down and the ambient air temp. Indicated 19 degrees. I can't guess what the wind chill was, but my Gerbing electric vest and gloves kept me comfortable. It is a little hassle regulating the electric with the "stock on/off" switch provided, but I'm too cheap to pay the extra $70 for a thermostat. I also tried "toe warmers" from WalMart for $2 for a package of four. Just used the attached tape and taped one under each set of toes. Wonderful heat for 4 hours! Stopped for the night and in the morning the weather report promised things were going to get icy quickly in the day. No less than 30 minutes on the road and the first of the freezing rain started to fall. My Rifle windshield iced over and as my face shield started doing the same, I decided to pull off I-40 and lay over in a motel for the weather to pass. This was a major decision since the storm was forecasted to last for at least three days and that would mean that I would spend Christmas eve, day and the day after in Cooksville, Tennesse in a motel instead of at home with my family. Admitting final defeat to the weather gods who had iced up the road, I pulled up the off ramp and stopped well off the side of the road with my emergency flashers going (a Chuck installed option) to clean the ice off my face shield so I could safety ride the 200 yards to the nearest motel. The off-ramp was already sporting a 1/2 inch layer of slick ice so I was mentally contemplating the final and most dangerous 200 yards of the trip. At this point, my bike is parked at the end of the off-ramp on the side of the road next to a 3 foot tall concrete wall and I am cleaning my helmet while siting on said wall about 5 feet behind my "Scooter". What's that grinding noise? I turn and look down the off-ramp and see a Chevy Calis sidewise doing about 45 mph heading right towards me! My first thought was to laugh because from the inside of the Chevy I could see four pairs of the largest eyeballs I have seen lately all staring at me. My second and third thoughts were simultaneous, "He's going to hit my bike, should I move it?" and "He's going to hit ME!" I then leaped like a frightened bullfighter over the wall an instant before the Chivvy impacted the spot I had been in. Standing up, I was showered with Chevy pieces and to my horror saw that the momentum of the car hitting the wall had accelerated the car's tail section as in crack the whip and the car's rear end smacked my parked PC! Since he hit me square on and the roadway was icy, the didn't simply fall over. Oh no...it fell over and like a cue ball, took off down the highway in a spectacular array of sparks and plastic parts. To make a long story short, there where no physical injuries, the front end of the Calis is toast and my PC has many plastic panels to replace; front cowl, right mirror assembly, right maintenance cover and all four "bumper guards", not to mention the brake lever and handlebar ends. I believe that I can repair and paint the damage to the right rear trunk lid with the excellent spray paint front ColorRight. All told, I'm surprised how little damage was incurred. I couldn't get mad at the driver because he had pulled off the Interstate to see if I needed any help! Both the driver and myself are insured by Progressive who settled my claim within days! Now for the good part! It's Christmas eve, my bike (and sole source of transportation) is unrideable, and the ice storm is really starting to howl. The guy who hit me suggested a U-haul truck from a place only two blocks away and you won't believe it when I tell you that I had my bike loaded in the truck ready to go before the State Police finished the accident report. Progressive Insurance bent over backwards to do anything they could for me and immediately over the phone OKed the truck rental. I made it to my ranch in time for Christmas eve dinner (but that's another story). Took my bike to the local Honda shop "Red River Honda" who charged me $80 for the insurance estimate! I know time is money but because of this charge, I wouldn't have this shop do ANY work on any of my bikes if they were the last source on earth! (but that's another story). Progressive had my check to me the same day the received the faxed estimate, I'm a very happy Progressive customer. Lessons Learned: 1) I'll put more stock in weather forecasts. Rain, cold and night are no problems, you cannot ride a motorcycle on ice, don't even risk it! In retrospect, I should have taken my 4WD Pick-up. Duh! 2) No use in getting upset about the wreck. Nobody got hurt, plastic can be replaced and the cage driver had insurance. They were actually very nice people and fun to meet. Next time it might be the Swedish bikini/volleyball team! 3) Everything happens for a reason. Without the wreck I would not have spent Christmas with my wife and daughter at home, instead it would have been three days in a cheap (yeah-right!) motel room waiting out a storm. 4) Even when you are off your bike and "think" you are safe, think again! Accidents are everywhere, just waiting for you! So, thanks to my daughter lending me her pick-up truck, my bike and I are now back in North Carolina waiting for Milpitas Honda to gather and ship repair parts. It was a GREAT Christmas but I don't think I'd like a repeat adventure. Stay safe and enjoy the ride! Chuck in Fayetteville, NC 89 PC800 "Scooter" with ouchies ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: PC Clip Art Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:00:28 +0100 >that message. Do any of you have the URL for the site that the pic came >from or do any of you have any URL's for clip art of the PC ? I've >spent at least a couple of hours with various browsers looking at clip >art sites but no luck. > Why not look at PC sites first ? Like: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-models.htm and: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-corel.htm Your last resource (this list) should be your first. Could have saved you a couple of hours ; ). Gotta love the list... : ) €mile, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman €urope http://fly.to/emile -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 4 Jan 1999 23:22:52 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Off to South Australia! Date: Tue, 05 Jan 99 09:13:22 PST Well guys.....the TV says its 40c in Adalaide today....thats 104 in Yanqu= eee degrees.....and I'm offf accross the desert.....my gps says 975 miles= .....straight line....which is NOT the way i will go.....but in fact the = ride is a ho hummer i suspect....been on about 1/2 the way roads before..= ..MUCH prefer Idaho or Gisbourne or Ireland.....but at this time.......t= his is the option I have.... Expect to be gone 2 weeks....give the new Cruise Control a bit of a work = out Catch you later... .Ron Grant in Brisbane Australia!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BMillman@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:29:58 EST To: desmond_cockburn@HOTMAIL.COM Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Clip Art On 4th. Jan, Desmond Cockburn wrote>> >I am in the process of putting together a contact card to give to folks >I meet on the Road and would like to put a clip art PC on it. A few >weeks ago a list member posted a clip art PC that I think was done by >Corel and was labeled as a Gold Wing. As luck would have it I deleted >that message. Do any of you have the URL for the site that the pic came >from or do any of you have any URL's for clip art of the PC ? I've >spent at least a couple of hours with various browsers looking at clip >art sites but no luck. Well Desmond, I have spent most of the Xmas period 'playing with that piece of clipart. The piece of clipart that you are looking for is on COREL GALLERY in the Vehicles section under Miscellaneous and is titled "hondawing", but it is not a Wing!! It is in fact a very good representation of a PC800 coloured in a light blue. You can change this by opening it up in in Corel Draw or something similiar and taking it apart and "re-painting" it. I have done this very succesfully with Serif DrawPlus program and I now have a superb clip art PC in Candy Red over Silver ( just like my own). I have even added the words HONDA and PACIFIC COAST in the actual font styles that appear on the bike and it looks great. You can then take it into a program like MGI Photosuite and make it into a logo! So, if you can get a copy of Corel Gallery, you will get exactly what you want. If you have any problems, I will 'attach' it to an E-Mail and see if you can get it that way - but I don't know if it will work . It is a 4Okb bmp file - are there any computer experts out there that would know if this will work? Is there a maximum size that can be attached?? Alternatively, can you not download the picture on the Southern California PC website - a white PC with palm trees in the background? or there are plenty of PC pics on the Pacific Coast europe website as well. I wish you luck with this one, I am no computer expert but I have thoroughly enjoyed 'converting' this piece of clipart to a good representation of my own beloved PC in Candy Red over Silver. My PC has some custom artwork (Palm Trees on the coast) and I am now working on a way to reproduce these on the trunk - well it's something to do while this English winter passes over!! Safe Riding Brian Millman Reading England 90PC 800 - Candy Red (with Palm Trees) - 15k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Desmond Cockburn" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Clip Art -- Replys Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:44:20 PST Dear Roger, Emile, Sandy, Pat, PCSG, B Millman and all. Thanks guys and gals for the great clip art. I can use all the clips you suggested. Let's see, there's the contact cards, birthday cards, Christmas Cards, get well cards, anniversary cards, stationary, note pads, tee shirt transfers, and place mats. All for my own non-commerical use of course. Wonder if I could figure out a way to have bed sheets and pajama's custom printed ? Nah, that's probably going too far. Thanks again. See ya down the Road. Des 95 PC, Dream Weaver Okmulgee, Ok. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gerard" To: "Desmond Cockburn" , Subject: Re: PC800: PC Clip Art Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:47:10 +0100 Take a look at the PCE page, I have some clipart on our page for CorelDraw (vector files in zip format). http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ then go to the PC800 models section, there you find hopefully all you need. Happy and save 1999, Gerard. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ROBJHALL@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:11:36 EST To: desmond_cockburn@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Clip Art Des: A colleague of mine has the Microsft Office suite and somewher in their picture files they have a shot of an 89 PC. I think it's under "transportation" Rob Cary NC 89 PC w/43000 96 PC w/ 1100 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:16:07 -0500 From: "Gordon B. Frank" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tire Update Tire Update for my 96 PC with about 30k miles. It's time to put on new rubber and be happy with the mileage achieved from my current set of Dunlop K555's. I'm at about 10k miles on this set and the rear has another 1000 miles remaining, the front about 5000miles worth of rubber. I'll change them both next week. 6 months ago when I was ready to replace the Dunlop K177's, I tried to get another set and was told that they weren't making new K177's anymore for the PC. I had achieved about 9000 miles on the K177's and they handled much better than the OEM k555's that came with the bike, so I wasn't happy to be going back . The new K555's which are made in the USA, seem to be a different tire than the OEM's. Just my 2 cents. Ride safely, Ice is a killer! Gordon Frank, Atlanta, Ga. - -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CyVaquero@aol.com for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:20:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:20:52 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Clip Art I seem to find to odd that the supposedly 'unpopular' PC800 has found its way into both of the clipart packages that I own. ClickArt 300,000 has a photo of a parked '89 and Corel Gallery 2 has the fabled French Baby Blue '89 (rendering). Neither, however, has a Goldwing, or for that matter an easily identifiable sport bike. Just an observation that I made. Guy C. Heckman '96 4.5K (climbing slowly do to break between semesters) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 05:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! To: pc800 Do like I do. Keep an extra key in your wallet. I have an extra for both my car and the PC800 in my wallet. Works great! ---Roger Bowen wrote: > > Let me tell you a tale. I wanted some potato salad (and a quart of milk) to _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:57:38 -0400 To: gfrank@ibm.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Update At 11:16 PM -0500 1/4/99, Gordon B. Frank wrote: >Tire Update for my 96 PC with about 30k miles. >The new K555's which are made in the USA, seem to be a different tire >than the OEM's. > Just my 2 cents. >Ride safely, Ice is a killer! > Gordon Frank, Atlanta, Ga. >- I was at the motorcycle show in Toronto this weekend (I'll post more later) and I stopped at the Dunlop booth and asked about tires for the PC800. The rep mentionned that the K177 used to be made in Buffalo, and they also made the K555 in Japan for the OEM market. They have dropped the K177, and all US production, and continue to make the K555 in Japan, which is exported to the US and Canadian markets. My PC is in storage right now, so I can't check the sidewall, but do motorcycle tires have the country of manufacturer stamped on their sidewalls like car tires? I'm curious to know where the recent tires are being made. I'll be in the market for a tire when the spring gets here, and haven't yet decided what brand to use. I am anxious to see and hear more about the new Metzeler 880 that is replacing the ML2+ . Ride safe.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:06:47 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: 1999 Toronto Motorcycle Show Hi everyone. The following is a long trip report of the Toronto Motorcycle show. If you're not interested, click on DELETE now. It's pretty long. I went to the motorcycle show in Toronto this past weekend. The show was Jan 1-3 inclusive, and I was there the 2nd and 3rd. I met up with Tim Davies of this list, and Hal MacDonald, formerly of this list. Tim bought himself one of those oiled cotton duster coats. I think it was an effort to help him feel younger. (I'l let him elaborate on that if he wants ) Overall the show was pretty good. All the manufacturers were there, except URAL, which may have been there, but I never found them. BMW had the new K1200LT on display. The info I have seen for this bike so far indicates that there are three models. The base is pretty well equipped, the middle one adds heated seats and the 6 disc CD player, then the high line adds some chrome, an intercom, and a trip computer. It appears that the Canadian market will only get the middle and high line models, which will sell for $25,900CDN and $28,400CDN. I can't deny that it's a nice bike, but at 3 times the price of a PC, it should be a nice bike. The front fairing and rear saddle bags have 'integrated bumbers', similar to the PC800. I couldn't see behind the front ones, but the rear ones were on the side of the saddlebags. WIth the bags open, it was apparent that the rear bumpers have no frame support behind them. If you tip one of these over, it lands on the bag. Apparently the bag will hold it, and they demonstrated this at the show. (Of course, in the real world I don't think I'll be so lucky as to drop my bike slowly on a piece of carpet if I ever do have an accident) . While it looked impressive at the show, I didn't get the impression that the rear bumper would be of much use in a real world slide or drop. Rob and Leslie Pemble from Sport Touring Accessories were there all the way from North Carolina, and I enjoyed seeing them again. They are two of the nicest people you could ever meet. I also had the opportunity to help out in their booth at the show for a couple of hours. I had a great time! I picked up a set of the new ION lights that Sport Touring Accessories now sells. They are small, low profile rectangular lights, and appear very well made. They also have a metal housing, instead of plastic like so many other lights out there. You can see them installed on an ST1100 at http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals.htm The mounting for the PC800 is in the same location. I'm anxious to install them. I'll report back to the list as soon as I have done so, and post some pictures. Rob had his ST1100 at the show, with these lights installed, and they were extremely bright. Gerbing Clothing was at the show, and they had a great deal going. The Ultimate Pants, which are 500 denier Cordura and have a quilted and heated removable liner, were on sale. The regular price is $299US, and they were offering them at the show for $299CDN, which works out to about $195US at the going rate. I put my order in right away and got myself measured up. There were alot of leather dealers, and lots of dirt bike stuff, as well as videos of all the major events, such as Americade and Daytona, etc. I had been to this show several years ago, when it was first starting, and was disappointed. This time the story was different. The show was pretty large, and the manufacturers didn't fall short with inventory. Honda had at least 60 bikes on display. Even Ducati had a good 20 bikes there. I did sit on the new Suzuki GSXR-1300, that will apparently be the fastest production bike in the world this year. I sat on it for 3 minutes, and my wrists were sore. I can't imagine what a half hour of traffic would do to me. One of the local retailers was offering GIVI stuff at a 15% discount. That offer is good until the end of this week, if anyone is interested. Unlike years past, this year I only saw one motorcycle parked at the show. I'll bet this had something to do with the 15 inches of snow that fell on Saturday afternoon and evening. Toronto was hit by a huge snow storm. Roads and schools were closed, and the Airport was backed up for about 3 days. That pretty much sums it all up. Overall it was a pretty good show. I may be going to the New York show on Jan 16 or 17. If anyone from the list is going, let me know if anyone is interested in meeting for a coffee. Bye for now.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:30:11 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Well, Sweet 16 had her first casualty today. I passed a bit close to a = car while splitting lanes at a stoplight and took off my right-side = mirror. By the time I got back out there to pick it up, it was in many = small pieces. (Aren't these things supposed to stay on the bike when = they break away?) Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal = unit is $34. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:40:19 -0800 Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting, whether it be legal or not. Pretty costly just to save a couple minutes of travel time. What damage was done to what you hit (or what hit you)? Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/ 9.6k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: Tim J. Clevenger[SMTP:TClevenger@paypros.com] > Reply To: TClevenger@paypros.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:30 PM > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: PC800: D'oh! Mirror > > Well, Sweet 16 had her first casualty today. I passed a bit close to a car > while splitting lanes at a stoplight and took off my right-side mirror. By > the time I got back out there to pick it up, it was in many small pieces. > (Aren't these things supposed to stay on the bike when they break away?) > > Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal unit is > $34. > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:53:40 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dunno. I pulled into the first driveway when the light turned green, = and waited about 10 minutes for someone to pull in so I could offer to = pay for whatever damage I may have caused. I then went out and = retrieved the remains of my mirror, and still no show, so I went home. One of the reasons I bought the bike was to decrease my commute time. = This includes use of the carpool lane during commute hours and lane = splitting when traffic is completely stopped. I expected (and still = expect) such damage to happen occasionally. =20 I just feel kinda stupid because I failed to take into account the = mirrors of the two cars I was passing when judging the distance between = them. Unfortunately I hit one of those "solid" mirrors intead of the = old "wing" mirrors that would've just moved out of the way. (I think it = was a Saturn I hit.) That being said, if anyone wants to part out their damaged red PC800 in = the future, I wouldn't mind picking up a couple of spare mirrors. :-) Regards, Tim Clevenger 98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com[SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:40 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting, whether it be = legal or not. Pretty costly just to save a couple minutes of travel time. What damage was done to what you hit (or what hit you)? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:01:29 -0500 Where do you commute? Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror (snip) One of the reasons I bought the bike was to decrease my commute time. This includes use of the carpool lane during commute hours and lane splitting when traffic is completely stopped. I expected (and still expect) such damage to happen occasionally. (snip) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:17:20 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander To: "'TClevenger@paypros.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" , "'Peter_N1@verifone.com'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:14:07 -0800 Peter, I disagree. It is considered legal and it is statically much safe than being in a lane during stop and go traffic like we have here in California. If you have reviewed the finding in the Hurt Report, you know this to be true. I have lane split successfully for over 9 years without an incident on a PC800 and a ST1100. I have not had a single problem. I won't say it is for everyone, but perhaps the better statement you might make is "Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting FOR ME". Don't consider it a problem for everyone because you have a reluctance to do it or because someone else had a difficulty. That logic should lead you to not ride a motorcycle after reading about other people going down. We have enough people outside the motorcycle community talking down motorcycles without the people participating putting down the legal practice that others (including the California Highway Patrol) are involved in. Tim, About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 1/5/99 2:54 PM, Tim J. Clevenger [SMTP:TClevenger@paypros.com] wrote: > Dunno. I pulled into the first driveway when the light turned green, and waited about 10 minutes for someone to pull in so I could offer to pay for whatever damage I may have caused. I then went out and retrieved the remains of my mirror, and still no show, so I went home. > > One of the reasons I bought the bike was to decrease my commute time. This includes use of the carpool lane during commute hours and lane splitting when traffic is completely stopped. I expected (and still expect) such damage to happen occasionally. > > I just feel kinda stupid because I failed to take into account the mirrors of the two cars I was passing when judging the distance between them. Unfortunately I hit one of those "solid" mirrors intead of the old "wing" mirrors that would've just moved out of the way. (I think it was a Saturn I hit.) > > That being said, if anyone wants to part out their damaged red PC800 in the future, I wouldn't mind picking up a couple of spare mirrors. :-) > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > 98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > > > ---------- > From: Peter_N1@verifone.com[SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:40 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror > > Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting, whether it be legal or > not. Pretty costly just to save a couple minutes of travel time. > > What damage was done to what you hit (or what hit you)? > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:16:20 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I don't know if you're familiar with the San Francisco Bay Area, but my = commute currently is about 0.5 miles within Fremont (where I work.) I = am moving to San Leandro (15 miles away) in the next couple of months, = so I'll be commuting from there to Fremont. When I first bought the bike, I was commuting to my (now = ex-)girlfriend's house in Tracy (about 60 miles away), and on the = weekends, I usually visit my folks in Manteca (about 75 miles away). Regards, Tim Clevenger 98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: The Broeking's[SMTP:broeking@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 3:01 PM To: TClevenger@paypros.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Where do you commute? Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror (snip) One of the reasons I bought the bike was to decrease my commute time. = This includes use of the carpool lane during commute hours and lane splitting when traffic is completely stopped. I expected (and still expect) such damage to happen occasionally. (snip) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:58:26 -0500 According to the microfiche the mirrors for all years (89-98) are the same except for color. Roger -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander [mailto:jamesalexander@csi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 6:14 PM To: 'TClevenger@paypros.com'; 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'; 'Peter_N1@verifone.com' Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Peter, I disagree. It is considered legal and it is statically much safe than being in a lane during stop and go traffic like we have here in California. If you have reviewed the finding in the Hurt Report, you know this to be true. I have lane split successfully for over 9 years without an incident on a PC800 and a ST1100. I have not had a single problem. I won't say it is for everyone, but perhaps the better statement you might make is "Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting FOR ME". Don't consider it a problem for everyone because you have a reluctance to do it or because someone else had a difficulty. That logic should lead you to not ride a motorcycle after reading about other people going down. We have enough people outside the motorcycle community talking down motorcycles without the people participating putting down the legal practice that others (including the California Highway Patrol) are involved in. Tim, About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? Jim Alexander Concord California '89 PC800 HSTA 2307SU AMA 415932 On 1/5/99 2:54 PM, Tim J. Clevenger [SMTP:TClevenger@paypros.com] wrote: > Dunno. I pulled into the first driveway when the light turned green, and waited about 10 minutes for someone to pull in so I could offer to pay for whatever damage I may have caused. I then went out and retrieved the remains of my mirror, and still no show, so I went home. > > One of the reasons I bought the bike was to decrease my commute time. This includes use of the carpool lane during commute hours and lane splitting when traffic is completely stopped. I expected (and still expect) such damage to happen occasionally. > > I just feel kinda stupid because I failed to take into account the mirrors of the two cars I was passing when judging the distance between them. Unfortunately I hit one of those "solid" mirrors intead of the old "wing" mirrors that would've just moved out of the way. (I think it was a Saturn I hit.) > > That being said, if anyone wants to part out their damaged red PC800 in the future, I wouldn't mind picking up a couple of spare mirrors. :-) > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > 98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > > > ---------- > From: Peter_N1@verifone.com[SMTP:Peter_N1@verifone.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:40 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror > > Looks like another good argument AGAINST lane splitting, whether it be legal or > not. Pretty costly just to save a couple minutes of travel time. > > What damage was done to what you hit (or what hit you)? > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Miller Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Update To: gfrank@ibm.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Gordon: I do not know about motorcycles, but OEM tires on cars are definitely different than tires that you buy off the shelf. Tony Miller (ex-Tire Engineer, Dunlop Tire Co.) ---"Gordon B. Frank" wrote: > > Tire Update for my 96 PC with about 30k miles. > It's time to put on new rubber and be happy with the mileage achieved > from my current set of Dunlop K555's. > I'm at about 10k miles on this set and the rear has another 1000 miles > remaining, the front about 5000miles worth of rubber. I'll change them > both next week. 6 months ago when I was ready to replace the Dunlop > K177's, I tried to get another set and was told that they weren't making > new K177's anymore for the PC. I had achieved about 9000 miles on the > K177's and they handled much better than the OEM k555's that came with > the bike, so I wasn't happy to be going back . > The new K555's which are made in the USA, seem to be a different tire > than the OEM's. > Just my 2 cents. > Ride safely, Ice is a killer! > Gordon Frank, Atlanta, Ga. > - > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > == My homepage URL is http://members.tripod.com/~tlmiller/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: A Sad Story! Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:05:58 -0500 My wallet would be a little crowded if I carried an extra key to all 7 = of the cars/motorcycles (not counting the 2 off-road bikes or 4 boats) = that I keep running and occasionally operate. Hiding a key is a much = better option for me. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John Scalisi [SMTP:jscalisi@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 8:55 AM To: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! Do like I do. Keep an extra key in your wallet. I have an extra for both my car and the PC800 in my wallet. Works great! ---Roger Bowen wrote: > > Let me tell you a tale. I wanted some potato salad (and a quart of milk) to _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:28:14 -0800 From: Roger Pariseau To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror "Tim J. Clevenger" wrote: > Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal unit is $34. This PC wannabee (wannahave?) has just about changed his mind. $245 for a mirror?!!! Guess I'll stick with my CB750. -- Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD1121E6025A; Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:32:01 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:31:53 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Mine always stays on - by a small twisted wire cable, as I recall - which you are obviously missing, and which thereby cost you $279. You have my condolences, but be sure to buy that wire and install it for the next time you split lanes. Richard Hardy "Tim J. Clevenger" wrote: > > Well, Sweet 16 had her first casualty today. I passed a bit close to a car while splitting lanes at a stoplight and took off my right-side mirror. By the time I got back out there to pick it up, it was in many small pieces. (Aren't these things supposed to stay on the bike when they break away?) > > Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal unit is $34. > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:53:04 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Mirrors Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:53:04 PST Yes! the mirrors are supposed to stay on the bike. There is a cable that is supposed to attach the thing to the body. I've knocked my mirror off a couple of times when lane splitting, with no damage and only a little embarassment at having to put the thing back on, breaking out the tools. You must have hit pretty hard or at the wrong angle to break the hanger cable. Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:54:32 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Leroux To: "Tim J. Clevenger" cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Does anyone by chance have a copy of the PC article from the Nov. 98 (I think) Cycle World magazine? I'd appreciate a copy if its at all possible. Thank you! BTW Its way too cold to ride in North Carolina but I'm ridin' anyway!! Can't stay off this thing! J. Leroux '90PC800 36K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57782U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:00:49 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:49:27 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: A Sad Story! Let's just hope you don't lose your wallet. Whoever find's it will know where to find a pretty PC.....and a key to fit it....: ) James John Scalisi wrote: > Do like I do. Keep an extra key in your wallet. I have an extra for > both my car and the PC800 in my wallet. Works great! > > ---Roger Bowen wrote: > > > > Let me tell you a tale. I wanted some potato salad (and a quart of > milk) to > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX9CYSKW; Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:20:15 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:19:06 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror If ya can't stand the heet... stay out of the kitchen... \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:28:14 -0800 Roger Pariseau writes: >"Tim J. Clevenger" wrote: > >> Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal >unit is $34. > >This PC wannabee (wannahave?) has just about changed his mind. $245 >for >a mirror?!!! > >Guess I'll stick with my CB750. > >-- >Roger >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: TClevenger@paypros.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:26:24 PST For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:26:53 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:26:52 PST For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:34:04 -0500 (snip) >About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the >mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of >the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another >change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? (snip) That reminds me....I have had my mirrors off and there is NO cable on my 98 PC. Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: "Doug Allis" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:40:47 -0500 If it helps, you know I have the EXACT same commute on the same road. My gauge at 65 MPH barely gets above the C line unless I stop at a light. It was cold this am, but tomorrow with be the test at about 15 degrees! :-) I plan on riding, just dont want to get caught in any snow they are forecasting for the afternoon! Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis To: TClevenger@paypros.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:27 PM Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 >For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here >around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 >to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the >end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 >minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to >55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it >got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in >the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough >-- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Re: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:49:33 -0800 >For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here >around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 >to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the >end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 >minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to >55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it >got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in >the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough >-- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! Mine does the same thing at 50 F and below. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:52:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Leroux To: "The Broeking's" cc: Doug Allis , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Update on the article request... it was in the July 98 Cycle World. Any pack-rats with 6 month old magazines laying about that could help me out? Thanks. J. Leroux '90PC800 36k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: "The Broeking's" , Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:52:04 -0500 The cable will only show up when you "activate" the breakaway feature. Taking the mirror off with the 2 allen bolts does not reveal it. The cable holds on the plastic 3 bolt breakaway plate, not the main mirror body. I'm an expert on this subject after knocking off Tim Davies' 98 PC800 mirror and my own '97 PC800 mirror. Elton Hammond Ottawa, Canada '97 PC800 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: The Broeking's To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: January 05, 1999 9:40 PM Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable >(snip) >>About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the >>mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of >>the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another >>change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? >(snip) > >That reminds me....I have had my mirrors off and there is NO cable on my 98 >PC. Bob > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:54:58 PST NO mirror cables on the 98's?! That WOULD totally suck. Does your PC at least have the fittings for the cables? I suggest you get down to a Honda dealer and get those cables. At $250+ each for broken mirrors it seems like a cheap bit of insurance. I KNOW that mine would have been crunched under a cage tire when it got knocked off when lane splitting on I-395 last spring. Yeah and I really would want to go back and find the remaining parts on a busy highway (NOT!). Anyone who lane splits (or even thinks about it) should make sure the mirror cable is there. Its easy to find out. I can't believe Honda would drop this feature. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:52:20 -0500 Ah EXACTLY...I think its time for me to hit the sack and dream about that 12 degree commute in the am! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Elton Hammond To: The Broeking's ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:53 PM Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable >The cable will only show up when you "activate" the breakaway feature. >Taking the mirror off with the 2 allen bolts does not reveal it. The cable >holds on the plastic 3 bolt breakaway plate, not the main mirror body. > >I'm an expert on this subject after knocking off Tim Davies' 98 PC800 mirror >and my own '97 PC800 mirror. > >Elton Hammond >Ottawa, Canada >'97 PC800 >-----Original Message----- >From: The Broeking's >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Date: January 05, 1999 9:40 PM >Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable > > >>(snip) >>>About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the >>>mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of >>>the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another >>>change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? >>(snip) >> >>That reminds me....I have had my mirrors off and there is NO cable on my 98 >>PC. Bob >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: "Doug Allis" , Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:53:41 -0500 See the other post; forgot I was taking the whole mirror off when I unbolt it. See Elton's response. Time for bed! Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:55 PM Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable >NO mirror cables on the 98's?! >That WOULD totally suck. Does your PC at least have the fittings for the >cables? I suggest you get down to a Honda dealer and get those cables. >At $250+ each for broken mirrors it seems like a cheap bit of insurance. >I KNOW that mine would have been crunched under a cage tire when it got >knocked off when lane splitting on I-395 last spring. Yeah and I really >would want to go back and find the remaining parts on a busy highway >(NOT!). >Anyone who lane splits (or even thinks about it) should make sure the >mirror cable is there. Its easy to find out. I can't believe Honda >would drop this feature. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:03:37 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:03:36 PST Bob: You and I must be nuts. I will ride too, but don't you get out before it gets light? I got out the warm underwear today and stayed warm enough. Snow? I don't mind the snow (within limits!), its when the stupid Weather Service tells me a few flakes of snow and it rains at 20 degrees that I get in trouble! I grew up in Syracuse NY, and don't mind a blizzard or two. I used to ride a ski-doo snowmobile as a kid. Now that is really getting off-road! Its a blast and I highly reccomend it for you "northern PCers" Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: broeking@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, elton.hammond@ekho.com Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:07:33 PST Oh yeah. I guess it shows that I really broke-away my mirror :) I forgot that it comes apart differently when you want it off (replace turn bulb) as opposed to when you break it off. Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: "Doug Allis" , Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:03:49 -0500 I leave the house at 0600 when the HOV opens up. Sunrise tomorrow is at 0727 tomorow I think, yes..it is pretty pitch black. :-) The springfield parkway is where I really need to be careful, the HOV is well lighted. yes it will be nippy in the am! :-) I have zero experience on a motorcyle in the snow and would prefer to keep it that way.! :-) Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 10:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 >Bob: > >You and I must be nuts. I will ride too, but don't you get out before >it gets light? I got out the warm underwear today and stayed warm >enough. > >Snow? I don't mind the snow (within limits!), its when the stupid >Weather Service tells me a few flakes of snow and it rains at 20 degrees >that I get in trouble! I grew up in Syracuse NY, and don't mind a >blizzard or two. I used to ride a ski-doo snowmobile as a kid. Now that >is really getting off-road! Its a blast and I highly reccomend it for >you "northern PCers" > >Doug Allis >DHAllis@hotmail.com > > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:22:20 -0400 To: "The Broeking's" , From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable At 9:34 PM -0500 1/5/99, The Broeking's wrote: >That reminds me....I have had my mirrors off and there is NO cable on my 98 >PC. Bob > >-- > There is no cable when you remove the mirrors using the proper tools and the two allen bolts on each side. The cable is for when the mirrors are 'popped' off. The cable will be attached to the mirror assembly on one end, and to the bracket you remove with the allen bolts on the other end. When you remove your mirror next time, and you are holding the assembly in your hand, look inside of it for a small aircraft aluminum stranded cable. It should be there. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'rodneycarey@juno.com'" Cc: "'pc800 list'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:26:03 -0500 The microfiche can be ordered from your Honda dealer. The part number on the fiche is 14MR5KM. It covers 89-98. I paid less than $5. Roger -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com [mailto:rodneycarey@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 8:01 PM To: Prince, Roger Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:58:26 -0500 "Prince, Roger" writes: >According to the microfiche the mirrors for all years (89-98) are the >same except for color. > >Roger > If you would be so kind as to tell me where you got the microfiche for the PC800, I would be ever so grateful.. Rod Carey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doylefish@aol.com for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:58:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:58:22 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Hi Guys I had a guy physically run into one of my PC mirrors last summer. You can put those suckers back together. The brass colored pins are pressed in and you can get them out with a punch. I spent a couple hours messing with it and now it is as good as ever. You sure can tell that Honda did not intend anyone putting back together one of their break away mirrors. Have a great year. Doyle C. Frazier Lebanon, Oregon 95PC - Dark Vadar -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by saffron.neccsd.com (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA02991 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 1999 04:42:28 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Sattin, Harvey" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:36:46 -0500 My '98 has the cables. ~Harvey Sattin, Brookline, MA '98 PC800W > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Allis [SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:55 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable > > NO mirror cables on the 98's?! > That WOULD totally suck. Does your PC at least have the fittings for the > cables? I suggest you get down to a Honda dealer and get those cables. > At $250+ each for broken mirrors it seems like a cheap bit of insurance. > I KNOW that mine would have been crunched under a cage tire when it got > knocked off when lane splitting on I-395 last spring. Yeah and I really > would want to go back and find the remaining parts on a busy highway > (NOT!). > Anyone who lane splits (or even thinks about it) should make sure the > mirror cable is there. Its easy to find out. I can't believe Honda > would drop this feature. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:22:36 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: Roger Pariseau CC: TClevenger@paypros.com, "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Roger Pariseau wrote: > > "Tim J. Clevenger" wrote: > > > Just for reference, a right-side mirror is $245, and the turn-signal unit is $34. > > This PC wannabee (wannahave?) has just about changed his mind. $245 for > a mirror?!!! > > Guess I'll stick with my CB750. > Roger, These are great bikes. Don't let the price of a plastic piece shadow your decision. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 Pc Second Chance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 6 Jan 1999 15:45:30 UT To: Jason Leroux cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:03 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror I get both Rider and Cycle World mags. I will look for it. I could make a copy and snail mail it to you if you send me an address. On the net go to motorbyte.com And go to their archives on road tests. They did one for the PC last August. Later Roger R Chaska, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:12:53 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I think that's normal. My 98 stays in about the middle of the gauge = when I'm in-town and it's warmer (>40 degrees F.) If it gets below that = temperature, or I'm on the freeway, it stays closer to the "C". I guess it's just the result of a small engine with a large efficient = radiator. My Ranger has a 4 cylinder engine, but it has a radiator = designed for pulling a heavy load uphill with the V-6 in hot weather and = the A/C on, so even though the thermostat is working fine, I can almost = never get the thing to the middle of the gauge. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis[SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 6:26 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here=20 around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395=20 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the=20 end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15=20 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to=20 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it=20 got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in=20 the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough = -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:23:00 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Jim. In addition to the safety benefits of splitting, I think there's much = less wear and tear on the bike, since I can keep it running in first = gear instead of stopping every 20 feet and burning up the clutch. =20 I keep hearing these horror stories about these cage drivers that get = mad and "open their door in front of you." Since I'm wearing a = full-face helmet and some padding, I'm sure that even if I lost the bike = hitting a door, I wouldn't be injured. (Of course, I consider that kind = of thing attempted murder, so the cage driver might end up a bit = injured.) It's the same mentality that my mom has when she tells me = "somebody's going to turn left in front of you and kill you." Well duh, = that's why I'm always looking out for that kind of thing. In this case though, I take full responsibility. I was splitting a = narrow left turn lane because I was in a hurry, I misjudged the mirrors, = and as a result, I'm paying $275 for a new mirror and signal. (I might = ask Honda why my mirror didn't stay with the bike. The cable is still = sticking out of the body where the mirror should have been, and I don't = think I hit it hard enough to separate it from the cable, but unless = they come right out and offer something, I'm not really going to pursue = it.) As Grandpa Clevenger would say, "You pays your nickel; you takes your = chances." Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Alexander[SMTP:jamesalexander@csi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 3:14 PM To: 'TClevenger@paypros.com'; 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'; = 'Peter_N1@verifone.com' Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Tim, About the mirror, there is supposed to be a small cable which lets the=20 mirror hang down. Check your other mirror (or look at the fragments of = the bad one) to see if you see another cable. Perhaps this is another=20 change in the '97 & '98s that we didn't know about? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 10:46:04 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: TClevenger@paypros.com CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror <> I don't think the cable was ever intended to hold the mirror on through a collision. I think it was more for a butt bump in the parking lot type of accident or maybe the liability design as in hood ornaments and break away mirrors on cars, to lessen the possibility of serious injury by a less than direct hit. Had it been mounted solid to the frame of the bike we may have been reading about how you were killed in a accident instead of reading about your picking up pieces of a mirror. I agree with you. Ask and then be glad you are still around to pay the $200+ for the mirror. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:51:20 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Geez, Steve, I wasn't going _that_ fast. :-) Point taken, though. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson[SMTP:deere@linknet.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:46 AM To: TClevenger@paypros.com Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Had it been mounted solid to the frame of the bike we may have been reading about how you were killed in a accident instead of reading about your picking up pieces of a mirror. I agree with you. Ask and then be glad you are still around to pay the $200+ for the mirror. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:19:09 -0700 I would agree, this is normal for my PC in Salt Lake City also. I ride about a 15 min. commute to work each day, Even though I start it up early and let it warm up well into the normal range, by the time I am about a mile into my ride it is right down into the Cold area again. On very cold days it can be nearly pegged on the cold end. Has anyone out there had any experience with a partial cover on the radiator? I know the manual says not to cover it at all, but they really have to say that. Also, when the engine temp goes down like that, or when I have to get going quickly and dont have time to let it warm up completely, I sometimes get a weird noise from what sounds like the radiator area. It sounds like a fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop, so I have never actually been able to climb off and pinpoint it and my wife definitely cannot run that fast alongside. Bill Jackman SLC, UT 89PC ~23000 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:16 AM Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 I think that's normal. My 98 stays in about the middle of the gauge when I'm in-town and it's warmer (>40 degrees F.) If it gets below that temperature, or I'm on the freeway, it stays closer to the "C". I guess it's just the result of a small engine with a large efficient radiator. My Ranger has a 4 cylinder engine, but it has a radiator designed for pulling a heavy load uphill with the V-6 in hot weather and the A/C on, so even though the thermostat is working fine, I can almost never get the thing to the middle of the gauge. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis[SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 6:26 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:27:29 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Can you get the fan to kick on by letting it idle long enough? I'd = check to see if it's the fan making that kind of noise. I don't know = why, but sometimes my Nissan would run the fan when it was very cold. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BJ[SMTP:bjackman@united-funding.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:19 AM To: TClevenger@paypros.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 I would agree, this is normal for my PC in Salt Lake City also. I ride = about a 15 min. commute to work each day, Even though I start it up early and = let it warm up well into the normal range, by the time I am about a mile = into my ride it is right down into the Cold area again. On very cold days it can = be nearly pegged on the cold end. Has anyone out there had any experience with a partial cover on the radiator? I know the manual says not to cover it at all, but they really have to say that. Also, when the engine temp goes down like that, or when I have to get = going quickly and dont have time to let it warm up completely, I sometimes get = a weird noise from what sounds like the radiator area. It sounds like a = fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the = shaft would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a = stop, so I have never actually been able to climb off and pinpoint it and my = wife definitely cannot run that fast alongside. Bill Jackman SLC, UT 89PC ~23000 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:16 AM Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 I think that's normal. My 98 stays in about the middle of the gauge = when I'm in-town and it's warmer (>40 degrees F.) If it gets below that temperature, or I'm on the freeway, it stays closer to the "C". I guess it's just the result of a small engine with a large efficient radiator. My Ranger has a 4 cylinder engine, but it has a radiator = designed for pulling a heavy load uphill with the V-6 in hot weather and the A/C = on, so even though the thermostat is working fine, I can almost never get = the thing to the middle of the gauge. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis[SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 6:26 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:35:28 -0700 Yes, the fan works perfectly at normal temps. It comes on, cools quickly and shuts down regularly, at normal temps. No strange/abnormal noise, almost whisper quiet. Bill Jackman -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 10:30 AM Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 Can you get the fan to kick on by letting it idle long enough? I'd check to see if it's the fan making that kind of noise. I don't know why, but sometimes my Nissan would run the fan when it was very cold. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BJ[SMTP:bjackman@united-funding.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:19 AM To: TClevenger@paypros.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 I would agree, this is normal for my PC in Salt Lake City also. I ride about a 15 min. commute to work each day, Even though I start it up early and let it warm up well into the normal range, by the time I am about a mile into my ride it is right down into the Cold area again. On very cold days it can be nearly pegged on the cold end. Has anyone out there had any experience with a partial cover on the radiator? I know the manual says not to cover it at all, but they really have to say that. Also, when the engine temp goes down like that, or when I have to get going quickly and dont have time to let it warm up completely, I sometimes get a weird noise from what sounds like the radiator area. It sounds like a fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop, so I have never actually been able to climb off and pinpoint it and my wife definitely cannot run that fast alongside. Bill Jackman SLC, UT 89PC ~23000 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:16 AM Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 I think that's normal. My 98 stays in about the middle of the gauge when I'm in-town and it's warmer (>40 degrees F.) If it gets below that temperature, or I'm on the freeway, it stays closer to the "C". I guess it's just the result of a small engine with a large efficient radiator. My Ranger has a 4 cylinder engine, but it has a radiator designed for pulling a heavy load uphill with the V-6 in hot weather and the A/C on, so even though the thermostat is working fine, I can almost never get the thing to the middle of the gauge. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug Allis[SMTP:dhallis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 6:26 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 10:34:02 -0800 From: Roger Pariseau To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Leland C. Sheppard and Kenneth Winter wrote: Leland -- > Honda parts are always high (but very good). The CB750 > was no exception and neither is the PC. I paid $85 each > for two oil hoses on my '72 750 about 6 years ago. They > were each about 14 inches long. Another way to look at > it is that the originals lasted 21 years; the new ones > should do the same; $4 per year isn't too bad... PC parts > aren't any higher than other Honda motorcycles. I agree that Honda parts are expensive. But there are fewer expensive things to break on a CB750 than on a PC! Still, I do my own wrenching and find less expensive but just as good parts elsewhere. I guess if it comes to an engine rebuild I'll have to patronize a dealer, but until then, no. Kenneth: > These are great bikes. Don't let the price of a plastic > piece shadow your decision. If and when I consistently remember to remove the rotor lock before moving off (!), then I'll go for a PC. I've dropped the CB750 three times so far with the clutch lever sustaining the only damage. Fortunately, it bends back into usable shape. Wonder what the bill would be if I did the same with a PC? Yes, I'm part Scots! -- Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 6 Jan 1999 18:52:04 UT To: "BJ" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:37:25 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 "BJ" >It sounds like a fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop Do you all think that it might be the drive shaft? I mean if you are driving in these cold temps. the shaft still has 80 weight gear oil. My XJ750 makes a whine pitch which is normal from the drive line. Later Roger R Chaska, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:44:10 -0000 Hi Doug, Try reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) by covering about 1/3 of the radiator with alluminium baking foil. Remember to remove it before summer. Job Sussex England ---------- > From: Doug Allis > To: TClevenger@paypros.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: COLD PC800 > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 2:26 AM > > For the last three days the temperature is between 15 F and 30 F here > around DC. I ride less than 20 minutes up the HOV lanes to DC on I-395 > to work. Since it got cold the temp gauge never gets higher than the > end of the line at the cold end unless I sit in traffic for 10 - 15 > minutes or warm it up for an extended time. As soon as I am back up to > 55-75 mph its back down -- just off the C. Is this normal? Until it > got cold around here my PC always warmed up and ran with the needle in > the middle of the temp gauge. The engine seems to be getting warm enough > -- at least I can warm my hands on those handy vents at any stoplight!!! > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com'" Cc: "'pc800 list'" Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:11:16 -0500 Maybe the speedometer cable? Try lubing it. -----Original Message----- From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com [SMTP:Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 13:37 To: BJ Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 "BJ" >It sounds like a fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop Do you all think that it might be the drive shaft? I mean if you are driving in these cold temps. the shaft still has 80 weight gear oil. My XJ750 makes a whine pitch which is normal from the drive line. Later Roger R Chaska, MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "BJ" To: "Prince, Roger" , Cc: "'pc800 list'" Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:25:39 -0700 Both sound like good possibilities, I will double check the driveshaft gear oil-type-weight. Does anyone know how big of a job it is to get to the speedometer cable? Bill Jackman -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Prince, Roger To: 'Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com' Cc: 'pc800 list' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 12:12 PM Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 >Maybe the speedometer cable? Try lubing it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com [SMTP:Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 13:37 > To: BJ > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 > > "BJ" > > >It sounds like a fan running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched > whine), where the shaft > would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop > > > Do you all think that it might be the drive shaft? > > I mean if you are driving in these cold temps. the shaft still has 80 > weight gear oil. > > My XJ750 makes a whine pitch which is normal from the drive line. > > Later > Roger R > Chaska, MN > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:44:45 -0000 The cable does not take the load of the initial impact. The load is transfered to the flat springs which releases the mirror housing and therefore prevents any dangerous loads from being transfered to the rest of the bike and rider. The tensile strength a steel cable is high enough to reatain the mirror after it has safely 'popped off'. It is quite possible that what happened in your case is an assembly fault. Only a detailed examination of the components will provide the answer. Details and illustrations of the breakaway mount and on how to work with this feature is fully detailed on pages 41 and 42 of the Owner's Manual which comes with the bike. It is a neat design and I could not help taking it apart to have a look, soon after I got my new PC. Job Sussex England PS. With prices of right-side mirror $245, and the turn-signal unit $34, I think I will take them both of the bike wrap them up in cotton wool and keep in the wardrobe. Just use the neck muscles and 'hand signals' ;-) ---------- > From: Tim J. Clevenger > To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 4:51 PM > > Geez, Steve, I wasn't going _that_ fast. :-) > > Point taken, though. > > Regards, > > Tim Clevenger > '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > > ---------- > From: Steve Wilson[SMTP:deere@linknet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:46 AM > To: TClevenger@paypros.com > Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' > Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror > > > > Had it been mounted solid to > the frame of the bike we may have been reading about how you were > killed in a accident instead of reading about your picking up pieces > of a mirror. I agree with you. Ask and then be glad you are still > around to pay the $200+ for the mirror. > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 7/98 SS1000 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:53:39 -0000 Details of the breakaway mount and on how to work with this feature is fully detailed on pages 41 and 42 of the Owner's Manual which comes with the bike. Job Sussex England ---------- > From: Francois Saint Laurent > To: The Broeking's ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 2:22 AM > > At 9:34 PM -0500 1/5/99, The Broeking's wrote: > > >That reminds me....I have had my mirrors off and there is NO cable on my 98 > >PC. Bob > > > >-- > > > > There is no cable when you remove the mirrors using the proper tools and > the two allen bolts on each side. The cable is for when the mirrors are > 'popped' off. The cable will be attached to the mirror assembly on one end, > and to the bracket you remove with the allen bolts on the other end. When > you remove your mirror next time, and you are holding the assembly in your > hand, look inside of it for a small aircraft aluminum stranded cable. It > should be there. > > > fsl > > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:23:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Scalisi Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I get the same sound described below at the colder temperatures. Is that common to many PC800's? Does anybody know what it is? I think I heard something about it being the front wheel bearing starting to show need of replacement. Don't know if that's true. Ideas? ---BJ wrote: > Also, when the engine temp goes down like that, or when I have to get going > quickly and dont have time to let it warm up completely, I sometimes get a > weird noise from what sounds like the radiator area. It sounds like a fan > running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft > would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop, _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:23:27 -0800 (PST) From: John Scalisi Subject: RE: PC800: COLD PC800 To: "'pc800 list'" This is a very good suggestion. It very well could be the speedo cable groaning in the cold. ---"Prince, Roger" wrote: > > Maybe the speedometer cable? Try lubing it. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYBHLF29; Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:19:23 EST To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:20:24 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Roger, We gotta meet for coffee some time. The web page at; http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/ is in fact MY motorcycle "Monica". I had to wait a extra day to pick her up at the Metro Hitching Post because she was loaned out for the road test. Of course the road test occurred before she earned the name "Monica". Just ask me and I will tell you the story behind the name "Monica". BTW I live in Mendota Heights... Should I call ya some time??? \\\|/// \\ // ( @ @ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* See Ya Down The Road... CrackHead Rod (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:03 -0600 Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com writes: >I get both Rider and Cycle World mags. I will look for it. I could >make a >copy and snail mail it to you if you send me an address. > >On the net go to motorbyte.com And go to their archives on road >tests. >They did one for the PC last August. > >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:54:19 -0000 Based my own experience and from the reports by many Listers, it seems to me that the PC800 is 'over' cooled. May be because it is designed to operate in the hot climes of the 'Pacific Coast' Reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) by covering about one third of the radiator with alluminium baking foil might be an answer. Job Sussex England ---------- > From: John Scalisi > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:23 PM > > I get the same sound described below at the colder temperatures. > Is that common to many PC800's? > Does anybody know what it is? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:29:31 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: 1999 Toronto Motorcycle Show To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) fsl@borgconsulting.com writes: I went to the motorcycle show in Toronto this past weekend. The show was Jan 1-3 inclusive, and I was there the 2nd and 3rd. I met up with Tim Davies of this list, and Hal MacDonald, formerly of this list. Tim bought himself one of those oiled cotton duster coats. I think it was an effort to help him feel younger. (I'll let him elaborate on that if he wants ) =========================== It's great that Francois is so thorough in his show reporting because I don't have to type as much now. His reference to "feel younger" results from the comment made by an "older" gentleman running a free paint ball booth to advertise a motorcycle Ride for Literacy (adult) on July 18, 1999 at Tottenham, Ontario, Canada. After Francois and I had each shot 5 paint balls at a stationary target we were ushered over to a table to sign up on a mailing list for the July event. The gentleman asked if this was a father and son team signing up! With only about 10 years difference in our ages I'm not sure which, if either, of us should have taken it as a compliment. All I know is that I've had Grecian Formula on my hair since I arrived home on Sunday night in preparation for the July event:-) The other highlight of my Canadian weekend was the rare opportunity to participate in practicing for a heretofore unannounced winter Olympic event: Honda del Sol Snow Boarding! I'm sure this event will be a hit and I'm betting on Francois to get a gold medal. All you need is a low to the ground Honda del Sol (blue was our team color), and about 30 cm of snow, blowing and drifting to 50+ cm, covering the highways and driveways. I would highly recommend an experienced French Canadian behind the wheel to get you through to first place. The real draw for participating in this event is the CD changer, heater, and refreshing Peach flavored gum served on board. Oh yes, the Toronto Motorcycle Show. Very nice event. Worth the 4 hour drive from Central New York and the $49 a night Holiday Inn room. The only vendor having anything labeled PC800 was Sport Touring Accessories. As I mentioned in a previous post from the show, I bought the new driving lights from them that mount under your headlight. Rob & Leslie Pemble have a great booth set up with all the H4 bulbs lighted so you can compare them and all the LED add on lights connected so you can see exactly what they look like when lighted. I liked the fact the Rob has his own motorcycle there (ST1100) with most of the items mounted so you can see them on a motorcycle. Sport Touring Accessories will be at the New York City motorcycle show January 15-17 at the Javitts Center on Manhattan. I will be there for at least one day, most likely Saturday, but I am still arranging for a hotel room. I may drive down on Friday afternoon (about 4 hours), stay 2 nights and come home on Sunday. I'd love to meet with any other Pacific Coasters before, during or after the show. Francois will be there sometime also, so let me know what works for you. It should be a great show. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Fw: Moto Joke Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:36:47 +0100 This big ugly biker walks into the bar with a parrot on his shoulder, orders a beer and a shot. The bartender sets him up and says," That's really cool, where did you get him?" "Sturgis." Replied the parrot, " They're all over the friggin place!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:34:06 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: PC800: [Fwd: COLD PC800] Hello folks! I'm back! Later on I will try to post some stories about driving in Mexico, but for now I just want to wish you all a Happy New Year! "PCSG Ltd." wrote: > May be because it is designed to operate in the hot climes of the 'Pacific > Coast' I bet there a some riders in Anchorage, AK that would disagree with that assesment :-) > Reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) by > covering about one third of the radiator with alluminium baking foil might > be an answer. What I did for my 10°F ride was to make a couple of styrofoam plugs that cover the side vents from the inside. This forces all the hot air to flow between the inner shroud and the engine, thus keeping the engine itself warmer. Since I have heated grips (and snowmobile gloves) I did not need the air flow from the vents to warm up my hands. Just my dos centavos. -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:54:13 +0100 >weird noise from what sounds like the radiator area. It sounds like a fan >running with a bad bearing, (kindof a mid-pitched whine), where the shaft >would vibrate as it turned. The sound quiets and stops as I slow to a stop, I had exactly the same whining noise a few weeks ago (and a year ago). The first time (last year) the speedocable broke some time after. The second time I also had the cable replaced. Since the front wheel bearings also were replaced (one was worn because of a hot brakedisc because of a sticking front brake because of worn piston seal rings and more) at the same time I'm not sure if it was the bearing or the cable. I think the bearing would have a crunching sound (I had a worn bearing on my previous bike, it had a metal on metal sound...ouch...) so I think it was the speedo cable. It's gone now. When the sound was there it was only there on cold mornings for the first few miles. Allthough I didn't replace it myself on that bike, I did on my first bike and it was really simple. Screw off both ends (two sort of screw caps), screw on both ends of the new one. But I don't know how reachable the cable is on the PC. Hope this helps, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror - no cable Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:59:44 +0100 >Details of the breakaway mount and on how to work with this feature is >fully detailed on pages 41 and 42 of the Owner's Manual which comes with >the bike. Which can be downloaded from: http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/manual.zip I kicked off my left mirror in a slider last year. Didn't even touch the ground, not a scratch. Unscrewed the mount, unscrewed the screws, screwed on the mount to the bike, screwed the mirror back on the mount, simple. No traces there of the slide. Love this bike. It's designed for crashing, unbelievable. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYBUNQWY; Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:32:52 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:33:23 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: [Fwd: COLD PC800] This sounds like a very good idea to me, Juan must know a lot about the cold... I know because I worked on the Pipeline in 1974 - 1976, mostly flying. /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... > "PCSG Ltd." wrote: > > May be because it is designed to operate in the hot climes of the >'Pacific > > Coast' > > I bet there a some riders in Anchorage, AK that would disagree with >that > assesment :-) > > > Reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) >by > > -- > Juan > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W > --------------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:41:00 -0500 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Fellow Coasters: As you can see by my signature file, I live in Georgia. Specifically, in the Atlanta metro area. I have never seen a motorcycle lane splitting here. I don't know whether it is legal or not in Georgia. I personally would not do it. Maybe its because I'm an Old F@&%. But then again, I have been known to pass cage on a double yellow line, especially in the mountains when I want to enjoy the twisties. So I am defintely not meek and mild. I picked up a ticket this fall for passing a slow cage in an oncoming left turn lane passing through an intersection. Unfortunately, there was a cop waiting at the light. On a positive note, she was very attractive and she and I had a nice chat while she wrote my ticket. I was in a hurry to get somewhere 50 miles away after work and decided to take the bike to make better time. I don't think that was a very wise decision. I would like to see some more discussion on lane splitting on the list, especially on the legality and on states where it is common. -- Pat McNew Snellville, GA 1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose 6250 (S)miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:56:54 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "Pc800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: RE: COLD PC800 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:56:47 -0500 Importance: Normal I guess the "ultimate" question for me would be......"Will this "over -cooling" actually damage the engine"? I would initially think not, but I'm no engine expert. Any thoughts? --Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:08:31 +0000 From: Roger Pattee To: Pat McNew CC: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Pat McNew wrote: > > Fellow Coasters: > > As you can see by my signature file, I live in Georgia. Specifically, > in the Atlanta metro area. I have never seen a motorcycle lane > splitting here. I don't know whether it is legal or not in Georgia. > -------------------------------(snip)--------------------------------- Maybe I can help. Sorry, but I ain't pretty. :-) ------------------------------------------------- Georgia Uniform Rules of the Road. 40-6-312. Operating motorcycle on roadway laned for traffic. (a) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane, and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such a manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane. (b) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (c) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles. (d) Motorcycles shall not be operated more then two abreast in a single lane. (e) A person operating a motorcycle shall at all times keep his headlights and taillights illuminated. (f) Subsections (b) and (c) of this Code section shall not apply to police officers in the performance of their official duties. ----------------------- Lane asplitin taint legallike in Jawja (he says, as he adjusts his mirrored sunglasses). Roger, aka Motordawg Home page http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:51:31 +0000 From: Roger Pattee To: rodneycarey@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ebay auction..hold all calls..we have a winner! :-) Well folks, Looks like it is time for the 'happy dawg*' dance! (*that little dance your favorite mutt does when you have been gone for an hour, and they think it has been a year since they last saw you) No one had bid more then ME! (happy dawg dance enacted!) Roger aka Motordawg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:34:02 -0800 Having talked specifically about lane-splitting in California with several Highway Patrol as well as various city Police Officers over the years, the information I get is that in California, lane-splitting is neither expressly prohibited or expressly allowed. There is no mention of it in the California Vehicle Code, nor is it covered in any Department of Motor Vehicle handbook (the text you study before taking your license test). The Highway Patrol will quote vehicle code section 22350, which basicly states not to drive in an unsafe mannor. Many local Police Officers give the following information about lane-splitting in a "safe" mannor as only doing it when traffic is stopped, travel less than 10mph, when traffic starts moving you must choose a lane and maintain your postion with regard to other vehicles. I have been told that you can be ticketed if you don't do it this way. Of course, "in a safe mannor" is subjective, and it would be difficult for a patrol officer to catch you to ticket you unless he was on a motorcycle. It is also up to the patrol officer as to whether he wants to ticket you or not. I believe that most motorcyclists believe lane-splitting is specificly legal because motorcycle officers do it. Motorcycle officers would do it if it was legal or not and usually only do it if they are trying to get through traffic to get to the scene of an accident or sum such. In fact most of the time they use the left or right shoulder of the road instead of lane-splitting. I personally don't lane-split because I feel that it is more dangerous to squeeze myself through a more restricted area, approaching other vehicles in their blind spot when they are not expecting me to pass. Many is the time I have seen motorcycles lane-splitting and a car decides to change lanes just as the traffic starts moving, then on comes the motorcycles brake and you can see the front end dive as he brakes hard to avoid hitting the car. We all know that a lot of drivers operate in a "daze", not aware of anything around them or what they are doing, just driving by reflex action. I don't like tempting fate any more than necessary. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/ 9.6k and loving every minuite! > ---------- > From: Pat McNew[SMTP:pmcnew@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 5:41 PM > To: Honda Pacific Coast Group > Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting > > Fellow Coasters: > > As you can see by my signature file, I live in Georgia. Specifically, > in the Atlanta metro area. I have never seen a motorcycle lane > splitting here. I don't know whether it is legal or not in Georgia. > > I personally would not do it. Maybe its because I'm an Old F@&%. But > then again, I have been known to pass cage on a double yellow line, > especially in the mountains when I want to enjoy the twisties. So I am > defintely not meek and mild. > > I picked up a ticket this fall for passing a slow cage in an oncoming > left turn lane passing through an intersection. Unfortunately, there > was a cop waiting at the light. On a positive note, she was very > attractive and she and I had a nice chat while she wrote my ticket. I > was in a hurry to get somewhere 50 miles away after work and decided to > take the bike to make better time. I don't think that was a very wise > decision. > > I would like to see some more discussion on lane splitting on the list, > especially on the legality and on states where it is common. > > -- > Pat McNew > Snellville, GA > 1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose > 6250 (S)miles > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:24:01 -0600 Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:59:45 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Sharing Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:59:05 -0800 If you subscribe to MCN (Motorcycle Consumer News) you will find a very timely article in the January 1999 issue called White Line Fever. It is specifically about lane sharing. One item of interest is the comment that in the DMV Motorcycle handbook a statement that "Lane sharing is not illegal". If you speak to motorcycle officers of the CHP that I have spoken to about the subject, they have all stated they do not have a problem with lane sharing as long as it is done in a reasonable manner. They all agree this generally means with surrounding traffic stopped or traveling at less than 10 to 15 mph is it acceptable to travel between the cars at no more than 15 to 20 mph faster than the traffic you are overtaking. The CHP have been the strongest opponent of all legislation against lane sharing or lane sharing in California and the reason give that they would be constrained from doing their job. If you check the Vehicle Code, you will find that unless responding to an emergency situation, any officer of the law must observe all DMV codes. The lane sharing laws which were purposed would have removed this option for motorcycle CHP officers. Again, I agree with your decision to not share lanes and I can respect it. I hope you can respect the decisions of other people who choose to take the legal option of lane sharing as a remedy to the highly congested roadways we face in California. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:34 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting >Having talked specifically about lane-splitting in California with several >Highway Patrol as well as various city Police Officers over the years, the >information I get is that in California, lane-splitting is neither expressly >prohibited or expressly allowed. > >There is no mention of it in the California Vehicle Code, nor is it covered in >any Department of Motor Vehicle handbook (the text you study before taking your >license test). The Highway Patrol will quote vehicle code section 22350, which >basicly states not to drive in an unsafe mannor. > >Many local Police Officers give the following information about lane-splitting >in a "safe" mannor as only doing it when traffic is stopped, travel less than >10mph, when traffic starts moving you must choose a lane and maintain your >postion with regard to other vehicles. I have been told that you can be ticketed >if you don't do it this way. Of course, "in a safe mannor" is subjective, and it >would be difficult for a patrol officer to catch you to ticket you unless he was >on a motorcycle. It is also up to the patrol officer as to whether he wants to >ticket you or not. > >I believe that most motorcyclists believe lane-splitting is specificly legal >because motorcycle officers do it. Motorcycle officers would do it if it was >legal or not and usually only do it if they are trying to get through traffic to >get to the scene of an accident or sum such. In fact most of the time they use >the left or right shoulder of the road instead of lane-splitting. > >I personally don't lane-split because I feel that it is more dangerous to >squeeze myself through a more restricted area, approaching other vehicles in >their blind spot when they are not expecting me to pass. Many is the time I have >seen motorcycles lane-splitting and a car decides to change lanes just as the >traffic starts moving, then on comes the motorcycles brake and you can see the >front end dive as he brakes hard to avoid hitting the car. We all know that a >lot of drivers operate in a "daze", not aware of anything around them or what >they are doing, just driving by reflex action. I don't like tempting fate any >more than necessary. > > >Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/ 9.6k and loving every >minuite! > > >> ---------- >> From: Pat McNew[SMTP:pmcnew@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 5:41 PM >> To: Honda Pacific Coast Group >> Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting >> >> Fellow Coasters: >> >> As you can see by my signature file, I live in Georgia. Specifically, >> in the Atlanta metro area. I have never seen a motorcycle lane >> splitting here. I don't know whether it is legal or not in Georgia. >> >> I personally would not do it. Maybe its because I'm an Old F@&%. But >> then again, I have been known to pass cage on a double yellow line, >> especially in the mountains when I want to enjoy the twisties. So I am >> defintely not meek and mild. >> >> I picked up a ticket this fall for passing a slow cage in an oncoming >> left turn lane passing through an intersection. Unfortunately, there >> was a cop waiting at the light. On a positive note, she was very >> attractive and she and I had a nice chat while she wrote my ticket. I >> was in a hurry to get somewhere 50 miles away after work and decided to >> take the bike to make better time. I don't think that was a very wise >> decision. >> >> I would like to see some more discussion on lane splitting on the list, >> especially on the legality and on states where it is common. >> >> -- >> Pat McNew >> Snellville, GA >> 1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose >> 6250 (S)miles >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:55:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:55:39 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror In a message dated 1/6/99 11:27:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, TClevenger@paypros.com writes: << I keep hearing these horror stories about these cage drivers that get mad and "open their door in front of you." Since I'm wearing a full-face helmet and some padding, I'm sure that even if I lost the bike hitting a door, I wouldn't be injured. (Of course, I consider that kind of thing attempted murder, so the cage driver might end up a bit injured.) It's the same mentality that my mom has when she tells me "somebody's going to turn left in front of you and kill you." Well duh, that's why I'm always looking out for that kind of thing. >> There is another side to those horror stories. I heard about just that happening out in CA a few years ago. The rider was thrown, flew through the air, had some injuries (but was able to walk away). The bike didn't stop when it hit the door. It was deflected to the right and went into the car. The driver ultimately died from his injuries. If more cage drivers heard this story, the temptation to open the door might be reduced... (They'd realize that they would be better off moving the whole car over on you !) Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:11:23 -0500 I've been fascinated by reading of Tim's unfortunate experience while lane-splitting, and some of the responses to his story. I'm aware that lane-splitting is legal in California, and am curious where else this is true. As for here in Kentucky, where most cage drivers are, shall we say, unsophisticated with regard to aggressive urban driving habits, I'm certain that lane-splitting would be far too dangerous a practice to undertake, even if it were legal. Between the blue-hairs and the red-necks, and other colorful categories of drivers, someone would negligently or intentionally do a lane-splitting cyclist in with little fanfare. There's something enticing about living as Tim does in California where the practice is legal, and hopefully expected and accepted by cage drivers. The idea appeals to me, just like bike commute paths, etc., because it encourages modes of travel which are more economical, efficient, and environmentally friendly. (I'm no bleeding-heart environmentalist, but I do consider it a waste of fuel and space to drive a six-passenger cage to work when I can cruise in on my PC instead.) So where else is lane-splitting legal? From you experienced lane-splitters out there, what hints and tips to you have to offer for would-be lane-splitters? War stories? Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC 800 (in hibernation) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Honda Reps? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:15:49 -0500 It amazes me that we never hear from any Honda reps on the list. It seems that someone from Honda, whether from the corporate headquarters or even just a lowly dealer, would want to take part in our discussions. Could it be that I've missed such representation from the maker of our farorite steeds? Could it be that someone is lurking around out there extracting wisdom without contributing to the discussions? Could it be Honda Company policy not to take part in such discussions? Could it be that they don't care? Maybe they're waiting for an invitation! Just pondering... Steve Zweigart Maysville, Kentucky '97 PC 800 (in hibernation) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:13:26 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:38 -0800 We may not have a presence on our list, but the HSTA does have an occasional Honda employee pop up with a comment or two. One of the more common people is actually a pretty active HSTA member named Brian Tinkler who lives in Southern California and works in Torrance at the headquarters. I believe is works in the compliance department which tracks and confirms that they meet all of the DOT and other requirements. There are also other division or regional reps who post, but don't identify themselves as Honda Reps, so it would not be right to identify them unless they want to reveal it. Honda of Milpitas does monitor this list so there is someone lurking out there from a dealer and there may be more. Have you made your dealer aware of this list? Maybe we could encourage more dealers to participate and drum up interest in the PC this way. The dealers voice is a powerful force if enough of them go to Honda with a request. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steven R. Zweigart To: 'PC800 Mailing List' Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 6:22 AM Subject: PC800: Honda Reps? >It amazes me that we never hear from any Honda reps on the list. It seems >that someone from Honda, whether from the corporate headquarters or even >just a lowly dealer, would want to take part in our discussions. Could it >be that I've missed such representation from the maker of our farorite >steeds? Could it be that someone is lurking around out there extracting >wisdom without contributing to the discussions? Could it be Honda Company >policy not to take part in such discussions? Could it be that they don't >care? Maybe they're waiting for an invitation! > >Just pondering... > >Steve Zweigart >Maysville, Kentucky >'97 PC 800 (in hibernation) > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:13:20 -0500 Steve; I have been amazed at the same thing and last fall invited the Honda sales person on the phone in their California office to join, but did not give him any specifics. They probably are not as computer literate as they need to be and need a direct invitation by phone and mail with the precise details on how to sign on. Elton Hammond '97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steven R. Zweigart To: 'PC800 Mailing List' Date: January 07, 1999 9:21 AM Subject: PC800: Honda Reps? >It amazes me that we never hear from any Honda reps on the list. It seems >that someone from Honda, whether from the corporate headquarters or even >just a lowly dealer, would want to take part in our discussions. Could it >be that I've missed such representation from the maker of our farorite >steeds? Could it be that someone is lurking around out there extracting >wisdom without contributing to the discussions? Could it be Honda Company >policy not to take part in such discussions? Could it be that they don't >care? Maybe they're waiting for an invitation! > >Just pondering... > >Steve Zweigart >Maysville, Kentucky >'97 PC 800 (in hibernation) > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:58:01 -0400 To: "Elton Hammond" , "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? At 10:13 AM -0500 1/7/99, Elton Hammond wrote: >Steve; > >I have been amazed at the same thing and last fall invited the Honda sales >person on the phone in their California office to join, but did not give him >any specifics. They probably are not as computer literate as they need to >be and need a direct invitation by phone and mail with the precise details >on how to sign on. > >Elton Hammond >'97 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada This wouldn't surprise me at all. The other factor at play here is that we are involved with motorcycling, the PC800, since we enjoy it. Honda reps are involved because it is there job. I once wrongly assumed that the folks who work in the motorcycle division of a company all have motorcycle licenses. I had the opportunity to meet a few reps from Honda Canada, and from Yamaha Canada. One of the Honda reps had his license, and enjoyed motorcycles, but the other one, and the two Yamaha reps, didn't. As a matter of fact, neither of the Yamaha guys had even been on a bike, as a rider or passenger. I'm not sure how well these guys can represent their customer base if they don't even know what it's like to ride........ I'm sure all the companies have a policy about not participating in these forums. The person within the company that would be best qualified to participate would be someone who works on the line, or someone who works in the development, or road testing areas. The person who would have the official mandate to participate would be someone from Public Relations or Marketing, and they would only contribute sales and marketing propoganda that the list, as a majority, would probably like to avoid seeing. I would love to have a 'techie' from Honda participate on this list, but I'm not holding my breath. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: "Steven R. Zweigart" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:08 -0500 Francois; As usual, good observations. I am surprised a bit that something which requires a bit of passion and motivation to be involved in would allow Yamaha or Honda to hire non-motorcycle enthusiasts. In many jobs this might be acceptable. For example when I hire my admin assistants I don't care if they know or use Autocad at first, but eventually it is very helpful if they do. Certainly my front line people (instructors) have to know and use AutoCAd, just like I would expect these guys to drive a motorcycle. Maybe it is tough to get the job positions filled with people who have all the right skills and like motorcycling. Hard to believe isn't it? Elton -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent To: Elton Hammond ; Steven R. Zweigart ; 'PC800 Mailing List' Date: January 07, 1999 10:58 AM Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? >At 10:13 AM -0500 1/7/99, Elton Hammond wrote: >>Steve; >> >>I have been amazed at the same thing and last fall invited the Honda sales >>person on the phone in their California office to join, but did not give him >>any specifics. They probably are not as computer literate as they need to >>be and need a direct invitation by phone and mail with the precise details >>on how to sign on. >> >>Elton Hammond >>'97 PC800 >>Ottawa, Canada > > >This wouldn't surprise me at all. The other factor at play here is that we >are involved with motorcycling, the PC800, since we enjoy it. Honda reps >are involved because it is there job. > > I once wrongly assumed that the folks who work in the motorcycle division >of a company all have motorcycle licenses. I had the opportunity to meet >a few reps from Honda Canada, and from Yamaha Canada. One of the Honda >reps had his license, and enjoyed motorcycles, but the other one, and the >two Yamaha reps, didn't. As a matter of fact, neither of the Yamaha guys >had even been on a bike, as a rider or passenger. I'm not sure how well >these guys can represent their customer base if they don't even know what >it's like to ride........ > >I'm sure all the companies have a policy about not participating in these >forums. The person within the company that would be best qualified to >participate would be someone who works on the line, or someone who works in >the development, or road testing areas. The person who would have the >official mandate to participate would be someone from Public Relations or >Marketing, and they would only contribute sales and marketing propoganda >that the list, as a majority, would probably like to avoid seeing. > >I would love to have a 'techie' from Honda participate on this list, but >I'm not holding my breath. > > >fsl > > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, des1@ntr.net Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:43:32 PST More ... I was told when I took a MSF course 5 years ago that lane splitting was considered illegal in all states and the DC, except in California, where there was no explict law against it. The instructor also said that it was usually not enforced unless you were wreckless about it; clearly meaning that if you got in an accident you would get a ticket. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:31:06 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Roger Pariseau CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Hi Roger, Roger Pariseau wrote: > If and when I consistently remember to remove the rotor lock before > moving off (!), then I'll go for a PC. I've dropped the CB750 three > times so far with the clutch lever sustaining the only damage. > Fortunately, it bends back into usable shape. Wonder what the bill > would be if I did the same with a PC? I've dropped mine several times (when standing still - lost my footing or my balance in each case) and it tipped over by itself once (soft ground under it). Each mirror has popped loose a couple of times, I have a couple of minor scuff marks on the ends of the mirror housings, one on the upper corner of the windshield and some very minor marks on the fairing where the mirror swung back and forth and scratched it slightly. The crash bar covers (front and back, both sides) are scarred, too. Those covers actually show the marks, the others you have to look for to find them. I can live with the scuffs on the bar covers since the rest of the bike is still beautiful. Total cost so far: $0.00. I've spent an hour or two putting the mirrors back on their breakaway bases. I also have a couple of broken tangs on plastic pieces that cause a little rattling at certain speeds - they were probably caused by vibration over the large number of miles on my bike from the looks of them. I have one small break on the front fender cover from it being improperly removed or reinstalled by my mechanic (a small price to pay for his outstanding work - he would have replaced it but I said not to worry - you can't even see the spot where it happened unless you know it's there). Several pieces of the plastic are regularly removed for service (duct covers, side covers and the two small popout panels just above the footpegs). They are showing no signs of fatigue from all the activity. The front wheel pants have been removed 6 or 7 times for tire changes and, with the previously noted exception, are holding up just fine. All in all, I'd say the plastic and the paint hold up amazingly well... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:38:24 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: BJ CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Hi BJ, BJ wrote: > Both sound like good possibilities, I will double check the driveshaft gear > oil-type-weight. Does anyone know how big of a job it is to get to the > speedometer cable? Mine was replaced some time ago. The left side of the front wheel pants had to come off, as I recall, to get at the bottom of the cable housing. I'm pretty sure my mechanic was able to reach up under the dash from the front of the bike and loosen the head of the cable behind the speedometer. It ended up not being a particularly big deal; didn't take him long at all (20 or 30 minutes, maybe? - I was there but its been a couple of years so I don't remember exactly how much time). -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:42:45 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: John Scalisi CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Hi John, John Scalisi wrote: > I get the same sound described below at the colder temperatures. > Is that common to many PC800's? > Does anybody know what it is? > I think I heard something about it being the front wheel bearing > starting to show need of replacement. Don't know if that's true. > Ideas? I run in temperatures from 20F to 120F and as far as I (and my mechanic) can tell, my front wheel bearings are still fine - and they are original. The only noise I get from the front end is from the K555 tires. FWIW... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:47:13 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: pcsg@mistral.co.uk CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Hi Job, PCSG Ltd. wrote: > Based my own experience and from the reports by many Listers, it seems to > me that the PC800 is 'over' cooled. > May be because it is designed to operate in the hot climes of the 'Pacific > Coast' > > Reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) by > covering about one third of the radiator with alluminium baking foil might > be an answer. Other than a drop in my mileage in the winter, I see no adverse affects whatsoever from the motor running cooler during the winter. Why would you want to make it run hotter? (And I know that the engine is good and warm by the temperature of the air coming out of the fairing ducts... ) -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:54:44 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: Douglas Ford CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: RE: COLD PC800 Hi Douglas, Douglas Ford wrote: > I guess the "ultimate" question for me would be......"Will this > "over -cooling" actually damage the engine"? I would initially think not, > but I'm no engine expert. Any thoughts? I am seeing no evidence of engine wear period, much less excessive wear, from the engine running cooler in the winter. I run in temperatures between 20F and 120F. If Dave Little is lurking, he might provide additional insight (at probably 180000 miles on his PC by this time). Ditto Roger Prince with over 100000 on two or more PCs... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:18:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:18:33 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Hi, All: Although I now reside in Tennessee, I grew up and began my riding career in southern California in the early '50s. From my first days of riding, I split lanes when riding on the "freeway," because that's what everyone else did. I never even thought about the legality of it--it was such an immenently sane practice that it never occurred to me that it would be illegal. I was in for a rude awakening when I started riding in other states. In those days, the unwritten rule was that it was only done on the freeway, never on the "surface streets." Over the years, the squidly practice of doing it on the "surface streets" as well has grown. I guess it's technically just as "not illegal" as it is on the freeway, but in that environment it is far from an immenently sane thing to do. During my time overseas, I observed that the practice was almost universal in towns and cities. (On the autobahns, the traffic was seldom going so slowly that there would be any opportunity or advantage.) In many places, they even had two stop lines at the intersections: the first for cycles/scooters/mopeds and the second 4 or 5 meters back for cars and trucks. At every traffic light, the two-wheelers would filter through traffic to the head of the line. When the light changed, all the bikes took off in a cloud of smoke, off to catch the next batch of cages. The difference, of course, is that over there this behavior is recognized for its overall benefits, and the cage drivers expect it and accept it graciously. In most places in the U.S., the people are more concerned with "fairness" than with sanity. They neither expect it nor display any form of graciousness when they encounter it. As far as I know, in no other state is the practice "not illegal." However, if I'm facing many miles of creeping along an interstate highway at a walking pace or slower due to construction traffic or the like, I will probably "hit the line" and take one more vehicle out of the snarl. I've only done this once in the last 10 years or so, and my major memory of the experience is how uncomfortable I was because I knew that if caught I'd get a ticket and how annoyed I was at having to feel that way. Whenever I go back to California these days and traffic begins to crawl, I'm "on the line" without a thought. It feels so good to be back where it can be done without anxiety or guilt. If done correctly at appropriate times, it is the safest and sanest place to be. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:03:57 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I dropped mine while stopped in a Safeway parking lot. (Actually, "set = down" is more like it. I forgot the sidestand, caught the bike, but it = was so heavy I could only slow its descent.) No damage in that = case--not even the mirror. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Leland C. Sheppard[SMTP:lcshepp@directcon.net] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 6:31 AM To: Roger Pariseau Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Hi Roger, Roger Pariseau wrote: > If and when I consistently remember to remove the rotor lock before > moving off (!), then I'll go for a PC. I've dropped the CB750 three > times so far with the clutch lever sustaining the only damage. > Fortunately, it bends back into usable shape. Wonder what the bill > would be if I did the same with a PC? I've dropped mine several times (when standing still - lost my footing = or my balance in each case) and it tipped over by itself once (soft ground under it). Each mirror has popped loose a couple of times, I have a = couple of minor scuff marks on the ends of the mirror housings, one on the = upper corner of the windshield and some very minor marks on the fairing where = the mirror swung back and forth and scratched it slightly. The crash bar covers (front and back, both sides) are scarred, too. Those covers actually show the marks, the others you have to look for to find them. = I can live with the scuffs on the bar covers since the rest of the bike is still beautiful. Total cost so far: $0.00. I've spent an hour or two putting the mirrors back on their breakaway bases. I also have a couple of broken tangs on plastic pieces that cause a = little rattling at certain speeds - they were probably caused by vibration over the large number of miles on my bike from the looks of them. I have one small break on the front fender cover from it being improperly removed = or reinstalled by my mechanic (a small price to pay for his outstanding = work - he would have replaced it but I said not to worry - you can't even see = the spot where it happened unless you know it's there). Several pieces of the plastic are regularly removed for service (duct covers, side covers and the two small popout panels just above the footpegs). They are showing no signs of fatigue from all the activity. The front wheel pants have been removed 6 or 7 times for tire changes = and, with the previously noted exception, are holding up just fine. All in all, I'd say the plastic and the paint hold up amazingly well... -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:16:43 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 1999 Toronto Motorcycle Show Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Hi everyone. The following is a long trip report of the Toronto Motorcycle > show. If you're not interested, click on DELETE now. It's pretty long. Very nice article Francois (you didn't take the earlier Franky shot too hard, did you? :-)). Anyway, excellent write-up. We used to have a show in Detroit (Pontiac Silverdome) but they quit a couple of years back and the closest is Chicago now. Too far. Shame too, really enjoyed the show. Don't know why they quit. Got a lot of people there. Oh well, maybe they figured all those GM, Ford, and Chrysler workers would never go for a ferin' bike. Anybody know why they closed up shop here in the great white north. TommyTeal -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYDYY6Y9; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:26:57 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rpattee@g-net.net Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:03:38 -0600 Subject: PC800: Re: Ebay auction..hold all calls..we have a winner! :-) Happy Day, For A Happy Dawg... Congrats... \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( X X ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:51:31 +0000 Roger Pattee writes: >Well folks, > >Looks like it is time for the 'happy dawg*' dance! >(*that little dance your favorite mutt does when you have been gone >for >an hour, and they think it has been a year since they last saw you) > >No one had bid more then ME! > >(happy dawg dance enacted!) > >Roger aka Motordawg > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by InterJet.msce.com, id smtpdEB9288; Thu Jan 7 21:30:21 1999 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Larry Gomez" To: Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:31:27 -0800 Importance: Normal As a newer member to this list I would like to comment from the "cage" side. First, I'm on this list because I hope to get my first motorcycle in the next 2-3 months. I expect that it will be a PC800. I want to use it for my commute of 45 miles one-way from San Jose to Pleasanton, CA. I expect that I will be lane splitting. What I want to say though is that I tend to drive in the right part of the lane when traffic slows down. I do this so that the car behind me can see the car in front of me. The car behind me can then anticipate better the time when I will be braking. Since I'm in the right part of the lane, I watch for motorcycles coming up on me. When I see them, I move over to the left part of the lane, let them pass (some acknowledge the gesture), and then move back to the right part of the lane. HOWEVER, if there is a truck, van, SUV, or some other large vehicle behind me, I cannot see far enough down the road to see a motorcycle lane splitting. In those cases, they tend to just drive right up on me. The real point though is that I could very easily be getting ready to change a lane and do so accidentally right into them. I share this with the intent that when passing larger vehicles it would seem prudent to be extra careful of the car in front of it. Someone in the left part of the lane has even less visibility back than I do in the right part of the lane. (I'm now paying closer attention to the weather, road conditions, other drivers, from the perspective of the motorcycle rider. I haven't made up my mind for sure that I want to commute 45-60 minutes one-way on a motorcycle with the other inattentive cars.) My $.02 Larry Gomez -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Peter_N1@verifone.com Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:34 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting Having talked specifically about lane-splitting in California with several Highway Patrol as well as various city Police Officers over the years, the information I get is that in California, lane-splitting is neither expressly prohibited or expressly allowed. There is no mention of it in the California Vehicle Code, nor is it covered in any Department of Motor Vehicle handbook (the text you study before taking your license test). The Highway Patrol will quote vehicle code section 22350, which basicly states not to drive in an unsafe mannor. Many local Police Officers give the following information about lane-splitting in a "safe" mannor as only doing it when traffic is stopped, travel less than 10mph, when traffic starts moving you must choose a lane and maintain your postion with regard to other vehicles. I have been told that you can be ticketed if you don't do it this way. Of course, "in a safe mannor" is subjective, and it would be difficult for a patrol officer to catch you to ticket you unless he was on a motorcycle. It is also up to the patrol officer as to whether he wants to ticket you or not. I believe that most motorcyclists believe lane-splitting is specificly legal because motorcycle officers do it. Motorcycle officers would do it if it was legal or not and usually only do it if they are trying to get through traffic to get to the scene of an accident or sum such. In fact most of the time they use the left or right shoulder of the road instead of lane-splitting. I personally don't lane-split because I feel that it is more dangerous to squeeze myself through a more restricted area, approaching other vehicles in their blind spot when they are not expecting me to pass. Many is the time I have seen motorcycles lane-splitting and a car decides to change lanes just as the traffic starts moving, then on comes the motorcycles brake and you can see the front end dive as he brakes hard to avoid hitting the car. We all know that a lot of drivers operate in a "daze", not aware of anything around them or what they are doing, just driving by reflex action. I don't like tempting fate any more than necessary. Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/ 9.6k and loving every minuite! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:06:57 -0000 Hi Leland, Happy New Year! I have'nt actually done this on my PC800. Luckily, day-time temperatures here have been over 40 degrees F. Weathermen recently recorded the warmest day in January since 1841 !! This trick about partailly blanking off the radiator was actually mentioned by a Transport Manager of a Company. The idea is not to run the engine any 'hotter' but is to allow it to reach its normal operating temperature quicker and to ensure that it does not drop below the normal operating temperature due to over cooling in freezing temperatures. Whilst travelling in Eastern European Countries (Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Russia) I noticed many vehicles with a simple gismo fitted to the front of the radiator grille. It is a PVC panel with slots which may be opened or closed with press studs. Many drive around with all slots closed. I am talking about Ladas, Skodas, Wartburgs and such vehicles of Eastern Europe where automotive development stood still for 40 years or more till 1989! Engines require a top overhaul at about 25,000 miles! It may not be of noticable consuquence with a modern, relible bike such as a Honda PC800... Job Sussex England 1997 PC800 - just 1200 miles! 1979 Moto Morini ---------- > From: Leland C. Sheppard > To: pcsg@mistral.co.uk > Cc: Pacific Coast Owners > Subject: Re: PC800: COLD PC800 > Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 2:47 PM > > Hi Job, > > PCSG Ltd. wrote: > > > Based my own experience and from the reports by many Listers, it seems to > > me that the PC800 is 'over' cooled. > > May be because it is designed to operate in the hot climes of the 'Pacific > > Coast' > > > > Reducing the airflow through the radiator (and around the engine) by > > covering about one third of the radiator with alluminium baking foil might > > be an answer. > > Other than a drop in my mileage in the winter, I see no adverse affects > whatsoever from the motor running cooler during the winter. Why would you > want to make it run hotter? (And I know that the engine is good and warm by > the temperature of the air coming out of the fairing ducts... ) > > -- > Leland > '94 Pacific Coast > "Black Beauty" > 121,000 miles > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:35:31 -0000 Hi Coasters, I am a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists and the Advanced Motorcyclist Division of the Roayal Society for the Prevention of Accidents. I have attended lectures by Senior Police Driving Instructors. None of them condem filtering through traffic (same as 'Lane Splitting' I persume!) Police Motorcyclists, Paramedics, Despatch Riders and the famous Taxi Bikes of London (by Virgin) they all do it. Many consider this as an inherent advantage of motorcycles and can be used safely. Slow speed riding skills, maximum observation and concentration are the key factors. But refrain from it during poor visibility or if one is feeling tired, emotionally agitated, etc. Job Sussex England ---------- > From: Doug Allis > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; des1@ntr.net > Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting > Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 4:43 PM > > More ... I was told when I took a MSF course 5 years ago that lane > splitting was considered illegal in all states and the DC, except in > California, where there was no explict law against it. The instructor > also said that it was usually not enforced unless you were wreckless > about it; clearly meaning that if you got in an accident you would get a > ticket. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: Cold PC800 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:08:30 -0000 PC800 is has a low stressed engine designed for a long reliable life. We have Leyland and few others who have clocked up 6-figure mileages on their PCs. But in general, following points are worth noting with any Internal Combustion Engine: 1. At normal operating temperature mechanical parts will have the optimum clearances it is designed to fucntion at its best. for example - piston ring clearances. 2. Oil flow and oil drag is at its worst when the temperature is low. 3. Combustion efficiency of an engine increases with temperature. Efficiency is increased as more and more of the heat energy is converted to mechanical energy. Having to cool the engine goes away from the objective. Hence various attempts to use 'coolants' which can sustain hotter temperatures and the ever increasing use of ceramics in pistons and cylinder liners. Lot of research continue to take place to develop materials which can operate at higher and higher temperatures, have lower coefficent of expansion, dimensional stability, etc. Job Sussex England ---------- > From: Douglas Ford > To: Pc800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: RE: COLD PC800 > Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:56 AM > > I guess the "ultimate" question for me would be......"Will this > "over -cooling" actually damage the engine"? I would initially think not, > but I'm no engine expert. Any thoughts? > > --Doug > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:45:26 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Larry, Even if you choose not to split, I recommend a motorcycle because you = can use the carpool lane down 880 and back, from just before Fremont to = 238.. (I don't recall whether 680 has a carpool lane or not.) Nobody says you have to split lanes at higher speeds. Some folks only = split when cars are completely stopped. That way, the chances of = someone changing lanes is minimized. And if you're only going 5 mph in = stopped traffic, you'll still get there sooner than the folks that are = sitting there idling. That's a big deal if an accident closes down all = but one or two lanes. (I remember sitting in my cage when one side of = 880 was completely closed, wishing I had a way to just get to the next = exit.) When splitting, beware of "holes" between cars in a lane. It's usually = a good bet that if there's a couple of carlengths there, someone's going = to try to merge into it, often right in front of you. BTW, a "large" scooter like a Helix makes an excellent commuter vehicle. = My friend uses his to commute from Castro Valley to San Jose and back. = Automatic transmission, 70+ mph, narrow body, comfortable seat, cheap = insurance and tires, decent trunk and 55-65 miles per gallon. Not the = best for taking out in the twisties, but I wouldn't mind having one if I = were commuting in stop-and-go (save wear and tear on my PC.) Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Larry Gomez[SMTP:larryg@netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:31 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting As a newer member to this list I would like to comment from the "cage" = side. First, I'm on this list because I hope to get my first motorcycle in the next 2-3 months. I expect that it will be a PC800. I want to use it for = my commute of 45 miles one-way from San Jose to Pleasanton, CA. I expect = that I will be lane splitting. What I want to say though is that I tend to drive in the right part of = the lane when traffic slows down. I do this so that the car behind me can = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYD5362S; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:55:58 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: lcshepp@directcon.net Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:21:10 -0600 Subject: PC800: Rattling at certain speeds... Leland, Something you might already know... VELCRO with the sticky back can go into small cracks and such. Hook side - Loop side, whatever it takes makes for good vibration dampers (silencers) in the Tupperware.. /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... > >I also have a couple of broken tangs on plastic pieces that cause a >little >rattling at certain speeds > >Leland >'94 Pacific Coast >"Black Beauty" >121,000 miles > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. from for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:20:57 +0100 (MET) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Marjolijn en Arjan" To: Subject: Fw: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:20:07 +0100 A little comment about lane splitting in Holland there are some agreements between nation wide motor rider assocations and the federal law makers. Its not legal. But if you ride not more than aprox. 15 miles trough a trafic jam the police will not give you a ticket. Butt if the jams starts to move at more than 10 miles or so you must go in lane. Also when there is a long queue before any crossing with traffic lights you may not split lanes althoug i like to do that. Even so sometimes i use the bycycle lane to pass a busy queue in the city and that is total not legal but it is verry effective to pass a traffic queue. But i do not know if you guys in the USA have special bycycle lanes. Well Emile may be you can give some more input about this? bye and a lot of safe miles in '99 A.Andriessen Pc800 '89 Skippy Bike -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Date: donderdag 7 januari 1999 23:50 Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting >Hi Larry, > >Even if you choose not to split, I recommend a motorcycle because you can use the carpool lane down 880 and back, from just before Fremont to 238.. (I don't recall whether 680 has a carpool lane or not.) > >Nobody says you have to split lanes at higher speeds. Some folks only split when cars are completely stopped. That way, the chances of someone changing lanes is minimized. And if you're only going 5 mph in stopped traffic, you'll still get there sooner than the folks that are sitting there idling. That's a big deal if an accident closes down all but one or two lanes. (I remember sitting in my cage when one side of 880 was completely closed, wishing I had a way to just get to the next exit.) > >When splitting, beware of "holes" between cars in a lane. It's usually a good bet that if there's a couple of carlengths there, someone's going to try to merge into it, often right in front of you. > >BTW, a "large" scooter like a Helix makes an excellent commuter vehicle. My friend uses his to commute from Castro Valley to San Jose and back. Automatic transmission, 70+ mph, narrow body, comfortable seat, cheap insurance and tires, decent trunk and 55-65 miles per gallon. Not the best for taking out in the twisties, but I wouldn't mind having one if I were commuting in stop-and-go (save wear and tear on my PC.) > >Regards, > >Tim Clevenger >'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") > >---------- >From: Larry Gomez[SMTP:larryg@netcom.com] >Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:31 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: RE: PC800: Lane Splitting > >As a newer member to this list I would like to comment from the "cage" side. > >First, I'm on this list because I hope to get my first motorcycle in the >next 2-3 months. I expect that it will be a PC800. I want to use it for my >commute of 45 miles one-way from San Jose to Pleasanton, CA. I expect that I >will be lane splitting. > >What I want to say though is that I tend to drive in the right part of the >lane when traffic slows down. I do this so that the car behind me can > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYEC6P5U; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:59:41 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:59:44 -0500 Subject: PC800: Radiator blockage From: swift24@juno.com (John D Louk) My 64 Volvo 122S had a chain operated vinyl shade that pulled up in front of the radiator just like an inverted window shade. The chain pull was located in the center bottom of the dash. The shade moved upward from its rolled storage when the chain was pulled inside the car. It could be latched at any amount of coverage in front of the radiator. I remember traveling from school (Cornell) to my home in Illinois one Christmas break and I modulated the temperature of the coolant with the shade. John Louk Carmel, IN '90 PC "Ruby" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 02:22:20 +0100 >So where else is lane-splitting legal? Living in the world's single most densly populated country (number one is Bangladesh) I'm happy to tell that lane splitting in Holland is legal. There are no specific rules, so some organisations and the police set up a protocol to make things safer for both cagers and mc-pilots. Riding left of the left lane and riding on the (right) emergency lane is prohibited BTW. The protocol: 1. Lane splitting should be done if possible between the two left most lanes 2. The traffic should be moving slower than 40 km/h (25mph) for lane splitting 3. Difference in speed should not be more than about 10 km/h These are just standards, not law, to give the cager a better understanding of what to expect of a motorcycler in a traffic jam, as long as the motorcycler adhers to it offcourse. Having this oppurtunity allows me to enjoy motorcycling a lot more. In this wet, windy and chilly climate, this, and the possibility to parc anywhere I want for free, is a great motivation to only have a motor- cycle. No troubles ever in the last 6 years of lane splitting (knock on wood). I allways split lanes and allways try to be in front of every line at every traffic light. Not only because I find this the safest way (no obstructing traffic in front of me, no sleeping truckdrivers driving me over when waiting at the end of a traffic jam, the reason it's legal here), but also because it's so logical, so sane. No cager would wait behind me when I would stand still on the freeway. There would be enough room for him to pass. I would find this logical, so I would find it also logical to let a motorcycler pass in a traffic jam. No reason for me to wait when there is this lane in between just made for motorcycles, right ? Ditto before a traffic light. No car is keeping up with me, so I'm not bothering anybody. I'm not bothering anybody when splitting lanes either. I would think the average cager would appreciate the extra 3 feet won, right ? : ) If everybody would ride a motorcycle, there would hardly be any more traffic jams. FWIW, YMMV, objects in mirror are closer than they appear, etc.. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:45:22 -0500 Shucks, down here in Tennessee we just use cardboard and duct tape. It = goes with the red cellophane taped over the broken tail light lenses. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John D Louk [SMTP:swift24@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 8:00 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Radiator blockage My 64 Volvo 122S had a chain operated vinyl shade that pulled up in = front of the radiator just like an inverted window shade. The chain pull was located in the center bottom of the dash. The shade moved upward from = its rolled storage when the chain was pulled inside the car. It could be latched at any amount of coverage in front of the radiator. I remember traveling from school (Cornell) to my home in Illinois one Christmas break and I modulated the temperature of the coolant with the shade. John Louk Carmel, IN '90 PC "Ruby" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:04:03 -0900 From: jgoula CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage Jim Randall wrote: > > Shucks, down here in Tennessee we just use cardboard and duct tape. It goes with the red cellophane taped over the broken tail light lenses. Why would you want to cover you radiator down in Tennessee? To prevent blockage from large insects? :-) -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W Only Four more months 'till bike season! --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:29:26 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: "jgoula" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:03:46 -0800 No not bugs, if they don't do it, they can't get the engine warm enough to cook the road kill by the time they get home. They'd have to start up the car and finish cookin' it before the could eat dinner! ;-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgoula Cc: 'PC800 List' Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 6:04 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage >Jim Randall wrote: >> >> Shucks, down here in Tennessee we just use cardboard and duct tape. It goes with the red cellophane taped over the broken tail light lenses. > >Why would you want to cover you radiator down in Tennessee? To prevent blockage >from large insects? :-) > >-- >Juan >Fairbanks, Alaska >Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W >Only Four more months 'till bike season! >--------------------------------------------------------- >School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences >University of Alaska Fairbanks >(907)474-5520 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:12:27 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: HSTA List , pc 800 list , Ohio Star List Subject: PC800: Valkry Anyone looking for a 1997 Valkyrie for sale. 14,500 miles; ~5 years remaining on warrenty; $10,500 visit : http://www.erols.com/hyson/ -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYESMHDE; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:54:57 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dhallis@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, des1@ntr.net Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting From: speerboy@juno.com (gary n smith) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:54:57 EST Okay I'll weigh in.. I used to ride for a courier service in Wash. DC (company bikes!) and it was standard practice to lane split and move to the front of traffic at a congested intersection. Obviously the practice is more acceptable where it's more necessary (urban areas, California, Europe, Far Eastern countries). World-wide I bet it's done in more places than not. These days when I'm commuting in the DC area I'll lane split as needed. I do notice more hostility (honking, screaming, shooting) from drivers in the suburbs than downtown. Gary Smith speerboy@juno.com I'm a loser who spends far too much time indoors. ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:18:41 -0600 From: Steve Wilson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage I have always wondered why engines are designed with a horsepower wasting, flow restricting, thermostat instead of a open free flowing system with louvers. The shade or louvers in front of the radiator seems to me to be a more efficient way of regulating the temp of the coolant. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYFFRBTL; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 06:04:03 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: patkins@mari.net Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 05:04:55 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Paul, Go to the URL http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/ then to archives,then to road tests,then 1998 road tests - Honda Pacific Coast, (August.) There you have it, \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:07:43 -0600 "Paul B. Atkins" writes: >Rodney, tried to find your bike..what article? >Paul >Marinette, WI.... > > >At 4:27 PM -0500 1/6/99, rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: >>Roger, >> >>We gotta meet for coffee some time. The web page at; >>http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/ >>is in fact MY motorcycle "Monica". I had to wait a extra day to pick >her >>up at the Metro Hitching Post because she was loaned out for the >road >>test. >> >>Of course the road test occurred before she earned the name >"Monica". >>Just ask me and I will tell you the story behind the name "Monica". >BTW I >>live in Mendota Heights... Should I call ya some time??? >> >> >> \\\|/// >> \\ // >> ( @ @ ) >>*********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* >> See Ya Down The Road... >>CrackHead Rod >>(cracked me brain bucket in a crash) >>1994 Pacific Coast >>Name; "Monica" >>8762.9 Miles and more to come... >> >> >>On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:29:03 -0600 Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com writes: >>>I get both Rider and Cycle World mags. I will look for it. I could >>>make a >>>copy and snail mail it to you if you send me an address. >>> >>>On the net go to motorbyte.com And go to their archives on road >>>tests. >>>They did one for the PC last August. >>> >>>Later >>>Roger R >>>Chaska, MN >>> >> >> >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "randy and Susan" To: Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:56:53 -0500 Hello, I have just purchased a 1989 PC 800 it is not my first motorcycle = (I have 2 old ones) but it is my first Honda and my first Japanese = machine. I would like to hear from anyone interested in helping learn = about the machine.=20 Is there much difference in the later models from the early ones? >From what I can tell this machine has a love it or hate it following, = does anyone concur. Some of the reviews I have found call this a great = machine and other call it a mediocre all round machine. Any comments. The bike I have purchased is a 1989 with 12K on the clock. It has been = sitting for the last 3-5 years. Currently a carb slide has been replaced, battery both tires and all = fluids(of course). Actually am waiting for battery and rear tire, so I = haven't ridden it at all yet. It is a much heavier machine than my 1976 BMW 750, I consider myself a = sport tourer. I live in Georgia and would like to hear from anyone with comments, both = positive and negative Thanks and good riding Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steven R. Zweigart" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Fw: PC800: Honda Reps? Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:51:21 -0500 While sending the original to Jim, I forgot to copy the following to the list....oops... SZ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steven R. Zweigart To: Jim Alexander Date: Friday, 08 January 1999 09:49 Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? >That's what I was hoping to hear. I've made my local dealer aware, and he's >interested, but nobody in his shop is "online" or even close. We got in a >discussion about it one day when he asked me how I got so much knowledge >about intricate details of the PC. At first, I made him feel bad by saying >I thought it was common knowledge, but then I let him in on my "secret." > >As far as the dealer where I got the bike originally, well, unfortunately, >he's one of the kind of dealers who, once the deal is closed, forgets he >ever knew you and moves on to the next customer. Let him eat cake! > >And for you lurking Honda reps out there.....keep lurking if you must, and >see how unique and popular the PC is in the motorcycle world! > > >Steve Zweigart >'97 PC800 (in hibernation) >Maysville, Kentucky > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Alexander >To: Steven R. Zweigart ; 'PC800 Mailing List' > >Date: Thursday, 07 January 1999 10:14 >Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Reps? > > >>We may not have a presence on our list, but the HSTA does have an >occasional >>Honda employee pop up with a comment or two. >> >>One of the more common people is actually a pretty active HSTA member named >>Brian Tinkler who lives in Southern California and works in Torrance at the >>headquarters. I believe is works in the compliance department which >tracks >>and confirms that they meet all of the DOT and other requirements. >> >>There are also other division or regional reps who post, but don't identify >>themselves as Honda Reps, so it would not be right to identify them unless >>they want to reveal it. >> >>Honda of Milpitas does monitor this list so there is someone lurking out >>there from a dealer and there may be more. >> >>Have you made your dealer aware of this list? Maybe we could encourage >>more dealers to participate and drum up interest in the PC this way. The >>dealers voice is a powerful force if enough of them go to Honda with a >>request. >>> > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:03:30 -0500 From: Richard Stafford To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage Jim Randall wrote: > > Shucks, down here in Tennessee we just use cardboard and duct tape. It goes with the red cellophane taped over the broken tail light lenses. > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: John D Louk [SMTP:swift24@juno.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 8:00 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Radiator blockage > > My 64 Volvo 122S had a chain operated vinyl shade that pulled up in front > of the radiator just like an inverted window shade. The chain pull was > located in the center bottom of the dash. The shade moved upward from its > rolled storage when the chain was pulled inside the car. It could be > latched at any amount of coverage in front of the radiator. I remember > traveling from school (Cornell) to my home in Illinois one Christmas > break and I modulated the temperature of the coolant with the shade. > > John Louk > Carmel, IN > '90 PC "Ruby" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. You bet Jim, and don't forget the newspaper under the shirt and cardboard taped to the front of our legs for warmth. I still use bread sacks for hand warmth,and rain protection (stops the wind). But then I learned recently on this list that I,ve actually been a squid or something like that for the past 40 years because I didn't, and still don't, wear the politicly correct armor during all those years. Take care and keep on riding, Dick. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYFWTBWZ; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:27:17 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: johnl@is01.wvpa.com Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:29:49 -0700 Subject: PC800: FALLEN GENIE Good Morning and Happy New Year PCers of the World! WONG WING: I started getting the Ghost ready for the Wong Wing installation. I blew off the HONDA peel 'n stik label, emptied the trunk (no small feat!), and assemblied all the schtuff I'd required including my Honda service manual, all the PC List "How-To" postings, and my Wizard of Oz Lion (for courage) blah blah b lah. GENIE TAKES A DUMP: Imagine my surprise when I lifted the wing from it's cushy resting place and the "Genie" light bar fell into my hand. It appears to have been hot glued in place and the clumps of glue didn't hold. H E L P, PLEASE: Obviously, I need to re-attach the red light bar back in its cradle. However: 1) I do not know how to get the old glue globs off without being destructive. 2) The original glue globs appear to have been imbedded into the plastic of the wing at some point that allowed them to make their own irregular indentations and grooves for flush seating. 3) I do not have a hot glue gun. Can I "Shoe Goo" it back on and expect it to be secure forever? QUESTION: What would YOU do? Please reply off-List as I am still detached. Thanks! Ann '89 PC-AZ GIT = Ghost-In-Trouble Fri. 1.8.99 8:25 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:56:07 -0800 From: Roger Pariseau To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: >>>>>> L@@K! Amazing Free Offer!!! Unbelievable, but True!<<<<<<< 76 Tempting Tear-Outs wrote: > -- > Tempting Tear-Outs. > For more info on advertising rates, please write us on your company > letterhead, w/business card, via smail to: Tempting Tear-Outs, 3835 > Richmond Ave. Suite #200, Staten Island NY 10312-3828, USA. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Methinks your anti-spam engine is failing! -- Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:09:59 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: "Leland C. Sheppard" CC: Roger Pariseau , Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror (snip)> All in all, I'd say the plastic and the paint hold up amazingly Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles Leland, I am finding the paint on the Candy Glory Red model amazingly HARD to match. I know that it is a three part color. Grey, Candy apple red and clear coat. I have gotten very close with touch up paint for the auto part store. I will share the color codes if anyone is interested. The paint from color-rite cost $65. I have $25 in the total job so far. I would have bought the more expensive paint,if someone had not told me IT COULD NOT be done with auto paints. Panels can be repairable!! I will tell you how if you care to know. It is labor intensive, but it saves money. I saved $240 by rebuilding the right side main fairing. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 PC Second Chance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:10:09 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: "Steven R. Zweigart" CC: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting List member, I will have to confirm Steven's thoughts. It would be far to risky to split lanes here in East TN, legal or not. I know many rednecks who are uneducated and quickly prevoked that would not hesitate to force a rider into a compromising situation. Sometimes the lack of automobiles causes me concern in this area. I had one friend who rides that was forced off the road by an oncoming cage and spent the next hour in the ditch before someone found him. I bet the fact that there were no witnesses crossed the cage drivers mind as he crowded the other lane... Another factor here is the unfamilarity with the practice of lane splitting. I have riding for year, but when in CA for the first time, I was still startled when a rider split the lane beside my car. It never dawned on me that it was legal to do that. Traffic not being a major concern, I spend more time avoiding slow moving tractors and good old boys losing 500ld round bails of hay on the roads. plus cows and lots of dogs. Nothing major here, just a different input. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 PC Second Chance It is alost rebuild -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:10:32 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: jgoula CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage jgoula wrote: > > Jim Randall wrote: > > > > Shucks, down here in Tennessee we just use cardboard and duct tape. It goes with the red cellophane taped over the broken tail light lenses. > > Why would you want to cover you radiator down in Tennessee? To prevent blockage > from large insects? :-) > Cow poop, I realy smells when it gets hot. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:10:36 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: rpattee@g-net.net CC: Pat McNew , Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Lane Splitting. How about a little farther north in TN? Kenneth Winter 90 PC Second Chance East TN > > Pat McNew wrote: > > > > Fellow Coasters: > > > > As you can see by my signature file, I live in Georgia. Specifically, > > in the Atlanta metro area. I have never seen a motorcycle lane > > splitting here. I don't know whether it is legal or not in Georgia. > > > -------------------------------(snip)--------------------------------- > > Maybe I can help. Sorry, but I ain't pretty. :-) > ------------------------------------------------- > Georgia Uniform Rules of the Road. > > 40-6-312. Operating motorcycle on roadway laned for traffic. > > (a) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane, and no motor > vehicle > shall be driven in such a manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the > full use > of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two > abreast > in a single lane. > > (b) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same > lane > occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. > > (c) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or > between > adjacent lines or rows of vehicles. > > (d) Motorcycles shall not be operated more then two abreast in a single > lane. > > (e) A person operating a motorcycle shall at all times keep his > headlights and > taillights illuminated. > > (f) Subsections (b) and (c) of this Code section shall not apply to > police officers > in the performance of their official duties. > > ----------------------- > Lane asplitin taint legallike in Jawja (he says, as he adjusts his > mirrored sunglasses). > > Roger, aka Motordawg > > Home page http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:53:59 -0800 >Leland, > > I am finding the paint on the Candy Glory Red model amazingly HARD to >match. I know that it is a three part color. Grey, Candy apple red and >clear coat. I have gotten very close with touch up paint for the auto >part store. I will share the color codes if anyone is interested. The >paint from color-rite cost $65. I have $25 in the total job so far. I >would have bought the more expensive paint,if someone had not told me IT >COULD NOT be done with auto paints. > Kenneth, >From all reports the 'Wong Wing' does a fantastic color match job. Maybe Constable Wong could share his secrets with us. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYGBZYYR; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:18:07 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:20:28 -0700 Subject: PC800: DEAD WrINGer Wow! You guys are great. Thanks for sooo many quick responses and suggestions. Think I'll try to find a way to remove the old glue first. Have emailed Phlips for suggestions. This little blip will change my installation schedule, so don't expect feedback anytime soon. (She grumbled.) Ann -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:35:19 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 To: petersonhazan@mindspring.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) Hi Rocky Welcome to the "Club" With exception of color combination, seat material/pattern and a bit of chrome there is virtually no difference from year to year on the Pacific Coast. I think that is one reason why we all get along so well here on the pc800 list, more similarities than differences! The differences come with all the after market goodies we start to install usually within the first month of ownership. The neat thing about this list is we can "try before we buy" by asking others about their experiences with the same product. Sometimes it saves money, sometimes it means we buy more than we expected. I have had mine since July 17, 1998 and have about 7,000 miles on it. Definitely fun to ride! Since then I have added a Corbin seat, headlight modulator, 4-way hazard flasher, DC accessory jack, electronic cruise control, Clearview windshield, Honda trunk light, Honda trunk bags (they call them lners) and custom pinstriping. I was in Toronto for the motorcycle show last weekend and I ordered a set of driving lights from Sport Touring Accessories (down in your neck of the woods- North Carolina). The Pacific Coast is surprisingly easy to buy for and I don't know if that is a plus or a minus:-) I only wish more people would have bought new ones rather than used ones, then we would have a 199 model. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" petersonhazan@mindspring.com writes: >Hello, I have just purchased a 1989 PC 800 it is not my first >motorcycle (I have 2 old ones) but it is my first Honda and my >first Japanese machine. I would like to hear from anyone >interested in helping learn about the machine. > >Is there much difference in the later models from the early ones? > >From what I can tell this machine has a love it or hate it >following, does anyone concur. Some of the reviews I have found >call this a great machine and other call it a mediocre all round >machine. Any comments. > >The bike I have purchased is a 1989 with 12K on the clock. It has >been sitting for the last 3-5 years. > >Currently a carb slide has been replaced, battery both tires and >all fluids(of course). Actually am waiting for battery and rear >tire, so I haven't ridden it at all yet. > >It is a much heavier machine than my 1976 BMW 750, I consider >myself a sport tourer. > >I live in Georgia and would like to hear from anyone with >comments, both positive and negative > >Thanks and good riding > >Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:49:28 -0500 Subject: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I will be at the Jacob Javitts Center in New York City next weekend (1/15 -17) for the motorcycle show if anyone else is going and wants to get together. I have reservations at a Holiday Inn right now, but am still looking. When I settle on a place I'll post the phone number just in case you make it to the Big Apple for the show, or just to visit. I know Francois Saint Laurent is planning on trekking down from Canada for at least one day there also. It would be great to get together! Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:07:44 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show At 5:49 PM -0500 1/8/99, PC800 Rider wrote: >I will be at the Jacob Javitts Center in New York City next weekend >(1/15 -17) for the motorcycle show if anyone else is going and >wants to get together. I know Francois Saint Laurent is planning >on trekking down from Canada for at least one day there also. > > >Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 > My plans at the moment are to arrive at the show around suppertime on Saturday night. I may also go back on Sunday, but I'm not sure about that yet. Does anyone know the hours for the show this year? fsl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada VMS Systems Consulting - Business Process Improvement Year 2000 Compliance - Security Evaluations Product Beta Testing - Product Evaluation mailto:fsl@borgconsulting.com "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYGS6F4E; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:42:42 EST To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:24:52 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Monica Hi Roger, good to hear from you. No I don't have any relatives in the area (my relies are in Missouri) except some kids. The motorcycle show is February 12,13,14. I think I am going to take off work on the 12th. It's a Friday and a couple of my coworkers who have bikes may take off too. Let me know what you think about it and we can talk about arrangements. \\\|/// \\ // ( 0 0 ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* Boys Will Be Boys... CrackHead Rod (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:13:09 -0600 Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com writes: > >Sure that would be great. The motorcycle show is coming to Minneapolis >I >can't remember when but I have it at home. Maybe we could hook up for >that. >I grew up in So. St. Paul. > >Do you know a Jesse Carey? He is my wife's step father. Passed away a >few >years back. He grew up in North Dakota has a child. He would be around >71 >now. > >Later >Roger R >Chaska, MN > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYGWVRSZ; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:47:51 EST To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:34:04 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show Hi, Translate please... "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYGWVRNR; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:47:51 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:00:54 -0600 Subject: PC800: Wazza squid? What is a SQUID? When I was in the US Air Force (yes Emile the planes were mono - wing, but had props) a squid was a US Navy person who had completed their hitch? It seems as though there must be a new working definition... Would I want my daughter to date a squid? Would I allow a squid to use me PC800 (Monica)? Could I trust a squid with my money? With my whisky? \\\|/// \\ // ( 0 0 ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* Boys Will Be Boys... CrackHead Rod (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYGWVRSB; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:47:51 EST To: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:30:25 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800 Hi Tim, could you share with me please where did you get the electronic cruse control and the 4-way hazard equipment headlight modulator, 4-way hazard flasher, DC accessory jack, electronic cruise control. _____ ________________________________ _____ /\####/\ CrackHead Rod... /\####/\ / \##/ \ (Cracked Me Helmet In A Crash..) / \##/ \ /____\/____\ 1994 PC800, Name: "Monica" /____\/____\ \####/\####/ August 20,1998 2600 Miles.. \####/\####/ \##/ \##/ 8762.9 Miles and more to come.. \##/ \##/ \/____\/ ________________________________ \/____\/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:03:08 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: > It seems as though there must be a new working definition... A squid is (typically) a young rider on a fast sportbike, having little common sense and even less protective gear, one that has no concern for his own saftey, that of his passenger and surrounding motorists, and wouldn't give a rodents behind about the bad image he is giving the sport with his reckless riding. YMMV. > Would I want my daughter to date a squid? > > Would I allow a squid to use me PC800 (Monica)? > > Could I trust a squid with my money? > > With my whisky? The answer to all of your questions would be "Hell NO!" -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Covert" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:07:16 -0800 Steve, I understand flow restricting in reference to a thermostat, but how does it waste horsepower? Thanks, Rick ----- Original Message ----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 10:18 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage >I have always wondered why engines are designed with a horsepower >wasting, flow restricting, thermostat instead of a open free flowing >system with louvers. The shade or louvers in front of the radiator >seems to me to be a more efficient way of regulating the temp of the >coolant. I would also think a much lower drag coefficient could be >achieved by having a smoother front end. > >-- >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > >Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > >Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > >Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 7/98 SS1000 > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CyVaquero@aol.com for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:07:41 +1900 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:07:41 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? This Squid stands indignant. (By the way you can trust me with your money and PC800, the daughter and whiskey? Well....we'll just have to negotiate.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Frewhl97@aol.com for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:45:25 +1900 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:45:25 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Does anyone out there know if Honda is going to produce a Pacific Coast in 1999? I am in the market for this particular model. Some dealers just don't know and some guess and say "maybe". I would like some official documentation so I can make plans to buy a different motorcycle if I can't acquire the P.C. Thanks Jack -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:52:17 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:51:28 -0800 Come on now ... a Squid riding a PC ... That's almost an Oxymoron! ;-) -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CyVaquero@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 5:12 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? >This Squid stands indignant. > >(By the way you can trust me with your money and PC800, >the daughter and whiskey? Well....we'll just have to negotiate.) >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Elton Hammond" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:01:25 -0500 Jack; There will be no 99 PC800. However, if you call Honda's motorcycle sales group in California they will quickly give you all the dealer's names and phone numbers in any area you want that have new 98s or 97s in stock. I spoke to them in October and they quickly gave me 7 dealers in New York who had them in stock. I was thinking of buying a 2nd one because I have enjoyed my first one more than I had ever imagined! You should be able to get a great deal at this time of year. I bought my new '97 PC800 in March 1998 for $5999US from a New York state dealer and imported it back into Canada with no problem at all. Elton Hammond '97 PC800 Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Frewhl97@aol.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: January 8, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: PC800: Greetings%20from%20members.tripod.com/~pc800 > Does anyone out there know if Honda is going to produce a Pacific Coast in >1999? I am in the market for this particular model. Some dealers just don't >know and some guess and say "maybe". I would like some official documentation >so I can make plans to buy a different motorcycle if I can't acquire the P.C. >Thanks Jack >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:49:56 -0600 From: Steve Wilson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage <> It takes horsepower to pump the coolant it and much more HP when the thermostat is closed. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:15:58 -0800 To: "Steven R. Zweigart" From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Lane Splitting Cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" At 09:11 AM 1/7/99 -0500, Steven R. Zweigart wrote: > >So where else is lane-splitting legal? From you experienced lane-splitters >out there, what hints and tips to you have to offer for would-be >lane-splitters? War stories? > I ride the freeways of Los Angeles and Orange Counties, and lane split only when traffic is stopped or moving very slowly. My policy (not always followed) is to only pass between two cars when I am in fact passing between two cars. That way, they are unlikely to change lanes, since the next lane already has a car in it. This sometimes slows me down, but I would not feel safe passing a car when he could instantaneously decide the next lane is moving 1/10 of a mph faster, and jump into it, going through me in the process. I know how quickly I change lanes while caging in slow traffic, but I also know I don't change lanes if the next lane is full (duh!). My other policy is never to split at a speed more than about 10 mph faster than the traffic flow, and never above about 20 mph. In other words, it is a practice strictly reserved for congested situations, when in my opinion the benefit is much greater than the risk. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJDHA4A; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:22:26 EST To: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? Lock up my daughter... Hide my money... Lock up and hide my whisky... If he touches Monica I will dispatch his butt to the other side of here... Thank you for the information... \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:03:08 -0900 jgoula writes: >rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: > >> It seems as though there must be a new working definition... > >A squid is (typically) a young rider on a fast sportbike, having >little >common sense and even less protective gear, one that has no concern >for his own saftey, that of his passenger and surrounding motorists, >and >wouldn't give a rodents behind about the bad image he is giving the >sport >with his reckless riding. YMMV. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJDHA5D; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:22:26 EST To: CyVaquero@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:22:55 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? Ok... OK! You can have the daughter... I'll trade the daughter's mama for the whisky... The PC (Monica) I would rather eat broken beer bottles... \\\|/// \\ " " // ( ~ ~ ) *********-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-********* chortle.. chortle.. CrackHead Rod, (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) 1994 Pacific Coast Name; "Monica" 8762.9 Miles and more to come... On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:07:41 EST CyVaquero@aol.com writes: >This Squid stands indignant. > >(By the way you can trust me with your money and PC800, >the daughter and whiskey? Well....we'll just have to negotiate.) >-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJFAHUH; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:53:41 EST To: TedJ101@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 08:54:08 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Wazza squid? Howzza bout dat.... Thanks and go forth in the knowledge that you have been very kind to a old newbie... Rod Carey < What is a SQUID?> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bsnyder@enter.net (Brad Snyder) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:30:17 GMT On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:49:56 -0600, Steve Wilson wrote: > <> > It takes horsepower to pump the coolant it and much more HP when the >thermostat is closed. If that is true to any large extent, wouldn't you notice your idle speed increase as the thermostat opened up? Just wondering......... Later. . . . . . .. Brad '97 PC800 '87 CBR600F >-- >Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > >Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > >Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > >Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 7/98 SS1000 -- Brad Snyder, Walnutport, PA bsnyder@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~bsnyder -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tosh Konya" To: "Brad Snyder" , Subject: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:18:50 -0800 >On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:49:56 -0600, Steve Wilson >wrote: > >> <> >> It takes horsepower to pump the coolant it and much more HP when the >>thermostat is closed. > >If that is true to any large extent, wouldn't you notice your idle >speed increase as the thermostat opened up? I doubt if the PCs water pump requires more than 1/4 horsepower to turn at full revs. In normal temps I'd guess the thermostat would open in less than 2-miles so it certainly isn't enough time to "study" the tachometer carefully. And besides the stock tachometer is incapable of showing such small differences which is why a 0-2000 rpm tune-up tach must be used when performing idle mixture adjustments/carb synch. Honda thermostats have a bypass hole, approximately 3 mm, so some water is always going past the thermostat, even in the closed position, thereby eliminating the chance for a completely blocked system. I think you guys should stop worrying about nothing and pray for good riding weather! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:18:00 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: bmckenna@mint.net Subject: PC800: GWRRA Wins award. FYI Read about it @ http://members.mint.net/bmckenna/nerfk/gwrraward.htm -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA The size of your body is of little account; the size of your brain is of much account; the size of your heart is of the most account of all. -B.C. Forbes Open your heart for Ride for Kids @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ ST1100 News groups @ news.fremme.no -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MOCHA.MEMPHIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3067) Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:29:33 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 11:28:12 -0600 From: "David L. Sigsbee" Subject: Latin for PC'ers and Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show To: rodneycarey@juno.com Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu X-Corel-MessageType: EMail rodneycarey@juno.com wrote: > Hi, > > Translate please... > > "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" > > /\ _________\ CrackHead Rod.... > \ \ \______ / (cracked me brain bucket in a crash) > \ \ \ / / / 1994 Pacific Coast, PC800 > \ \ \/ / / Name: "Monica" > \ \/ / / August 20,1998 2600 Miles > \ / / 8762.9 Miles and more to come... > \/_/ See Ya Down The Road... > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Hey dudes and dudettes-- Since I am not certain about why this question about Latin comes up (did I miss a thread?), let me jump in. Being, to my knowledge, the only person in this group with a Ph.D. in Latin and Greek, let me proudly hold forth and say that it means: "If you know how to read this, you are overeducated" (literally, you have an excess of learning). Among other things, this occurs on tee shirts and sweat shirts for sale in the Signals catalog. However, I want to caution all PC'ers not to try to learn Latin from the Signals catalog, no matter how tempted they may be. For example, the catalog recently had a shirt with "animal convivalis" written on it, when almost every fifteen year old (except my son) knows that that is ungrammatical and should read "animal convivale," since "animal" is a neuter noun. What a burden it is trying to keep the world safe for Latin, but I will never give up. Just remember, "uno latrante, latrat et alter canis" ("when one dog barks, another dog barks too"). I hope all of this clarifies things. --David -- David L. Sigsbee Work: 901 678-2690 JO 404, University Honors Program Fax: 901 678-5367 University of Memphis E-Mail: dsigsbee@memphis.edu Memphis, TN 38152-6140 Home: 901 327-3848 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJQ5FR3; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:45:41 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:45:25 -0600 Subject: PC800: RE: Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Francois Saint Laurent writes: "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" ---------------------- Rodney E. Carey Wrote: Hi, Translate please... "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" ---------------------- Francois Saint Laurent writes: That would defeat the purpose and meaning of the expression..... Do you know any Latin ? fsl ---------------------- Sir what I hear is a missive devoured by cultural impedance with no regional pluralism. Strange indeed in these days of global communications. You see.. out here on the provincial steeps of Minnesota "Momma don't allow Latin round here". Si nous n'avions point de dιfauts, nous ne prendroions pas tant de plaisir ΰ en remarquer dans les autres. Rodney E. Carey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "A.T. Green" To: Subject: PC800: Squid Purity Test Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:56:30 -0800 All, http://www.micapeak.com/WetLeather/pages/squid_purity.txt :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 9 Jan 1999 19:14:43 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:00:20 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show January 15-17, 1999 Jacob Javits Convention Center New York, New York Friday, January 15, 1999, Noon - 10pm Saturday, January 16, 1999, 10am -10pm Sunday, January 17, 1999, 10am - 6pm You can check out www.motorcycleshows.com Shows at New York Jan 15-17 Ohio Jan 29-31 Chicago Feb 5-7 Minneapolis Feb 12-14 Atlanta Feb 19-21 Daytona March 3-7 St Louis March 12-14 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: test Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:05:27 -0500 test. Am I back? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: service Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:33:50 -0500 I received Progressive Suspension progressive fork springs for = christmas, and went to the dealer to make an appt. to have them = installed.I asked to have 3 things done: 1, have the springs changed; 2, = have the forks raised in the triple clamp 1/2 inch; and 3, change the = fork oil from 10 wt. to 15 wt. He said raising the forks 1/4 inch would = not really give me much of a change but he would not recommend going = more than 1/2 inch, so I will go with 1/2 inch.Then he asked me why I = wanted to go with the heavier oil, because in his opinion it would make = for too stiff a ride. [ I weigh 170, my wife 125, and she only rides = with me occasionly. I like to ride aggressivly- my tires show scuffing = to the edges- so handling at speed is a criteria.] I will probably go = with new Spectro 10 wt. oil in the forks, at this point unless someone = out there has a different thought. Comments please on this and also rear = suspension changes. Thanks. = Greg Wells = pc800 8538 = miles so I=20 will go with 1/2 inch.Then he asked me why I wanted to go with the = heavier oil,=20 because in his opinion it would make for too stiff a ride. [ I weigh = 170, my=20 wife 125, and she only rides with me occasionly. I like to ride = aggressivly- my=20 tires show scuffing to the edges- so handling at speed is a criteria.] I = will=20 probably go with new Spectro 10 wt. oil in the forks, at this point = unless=20 someone out there has a different thought. Comments please on this and = also rear=20 suspension changes. Thanks.

 
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:17:17 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: test To: dwells@massed.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) dwells@massed.net writes: >test. Am I back? You sure are. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail1.teleport.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 1999 21:00:44 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "teleport" To: Subject: PC800: Sparkplugs Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:01:07 -0800 Importance: Normal Here's my question for the group. I decided to take care of my winter service on my PC this weekend and thought I might look into buying some high end parts. Namely the new Bosch 4+ sparkplugs. It turns out that no place I've called can figure out how to cross reference between NGK and Bosch numbers so I thought I turn to the listers. Any ideas? Anyone have these plugs already? Would they even be a worthwhile purchase? Thanks for the help -David David Silver West Linn, Oregon '89 PC800 '81 CX650 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJ4LX6Z; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 16:06:23 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: swift24@juno.com, johnl@wvpa.com, MJKasof@webtv.net Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:08:52 -0700 Subject: PC800: PHILIPS on FALLEN GENIE --------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: annreid@juno.com Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:47:46 PST Subject: Re: FALLEN GENIE on WONG WING Sorry to hear about that Ann, That's because they glue on all LED bars to primer spoilers in factory. They didn't realized that the wings need to be painted, and those GENIE things need to be removed prior painting. That's why you saw glues over and under paint coatings, they're new and old glue. I also noticed loosen GENIE when I was sending away the 3rd lot of wings. Fortunately yours is the 1st report. As you don't have glue guns, I suggest you use fast set silicon sealant to do the job. You can take the wing away, put it up side down to re-install it; or use masking tapes to fix the GENIE after sealant is applied. If you wish to stay with hot glues, go ahead to buy one, or bring it to your local dealer to have the job done, and I'll happy to re-imburse you the cost. Since you don't supposed to go thro' this kind of troubles. I'm so sorry to hear about the fallen Genie. - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 30 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim J. Clevenger" To: "'frewhl97@aol.com'" CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: PC availability Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:28:56 -0800 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Jack. (Guess I shouldn't say that on an airplane, huh?) The bad news is that Honda has discontinued the PC for 1999. The good = news is that Honda has also deeply discounted the 98's, so if you look = around a bit, you should find a brand new one cheap. (I bought my '98 = for $6,000, which is less than the $8,500 MSRP they had earlier last = year.) Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYJ6KVZY; Sat, 09 Jan 1999 16:40:45 EST To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:02:39 -0600 Subject: PC800: Re: Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Thank You, For being a gentleman... Rod Carey On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:37:08 -0400 Francois Saint Laurent writes: > >>Rodney E. Carey Wrote: > >> >>Si nous n'avions point de dΘfauts, nous ne prendroions pas tant de >>plaisir ύ en remarquer dans les autres. >> >>Rodney E. Carey >>F.R.C. > >touche.... > >The latin phrase in my signature translates to: > > "If you can read this then you are over educated" > > > >Have a good day... > >fsl > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:15:01 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jim Alexander" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:13:32 -0800 Si nous ne recherchons pas des dιfauts dans autre, nous ne les trouverions pas dans nous-mκmes. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 9:47 AM Subject: PC800: RE: Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes >Rodney E. Carey Wrote: > >Si nous n'avions point de dιfauts, nous ne prendroions pas tant de >plaisir ΰ en remarquer dans les autres. > >Rodney E. 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---------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WARNING! Dates in Calender are closer then they appear. Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:50:03 +0100 >Info on the Rally are on : http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/invitasjonMCtreff.html >Arvid Norway Wow ! That's one F#$*ing great picture ! I think I'm gonna check that schedule of mine again, that looks great ! ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." (but Norwegian ain't that bad either I think) "Homo Sapiens non urinat en ventum" (spelling ?) http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: Subject: Re: PC800: WARNING! Dates in Calender are closer then they appear. Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:22:44 -0800 Wow is right! That road looks like it alone would be worth the air = fare to get there. Ain't nothing like that in Southern Oregon. =20 Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: "Emile Nossin" , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: WARNING! Dates in Calender are closer then they appear. Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:25:32 +0100 The Group has become so educated in the finer languages , I tried too - and failed. After that I took an IQ test and the results were negative. Arvid -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Emile Nossin To: PC800 Date: 10. januar 1999 01:53 Subject: Re: PC800: WARNING! Dates in Calender are closer then they appear. >>Info on the Rally are on : http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/invitasjonMCtreff.html >>Arvid Norway > >Wow ! That's one F#$*ing great picture ! >I think I'm gonna check that schedule of mine again, that looks great ! > >___ >[_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > >"If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." (but Norwegian ain't that bad either I think) > >"Homo Sapiens non urinat en ventum" (spelling ?) > >http://fly.to/emile >ICQ 17992318 >Emile@Cybercomm.nl > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:44:28 EST To: annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: johnl@wvpa.com Subject: Re: PC800: Tell me it aint so Joe! I have just found out that Metzeler is dropping their most excellent ML2 tires. Bad news. But I understand that they have in the works a new set of rubber just for the PC800. Good news. Does anyone out there know anything about when we might be seeing the new skins? I have also learned that some PCers have been using radial tires on their bikes. I even read about using ML2s on the back and a radial on the front. Sounds interesting and a bit scary at the same time. I will be needing new rubber by spring time so I am curious as to what is going on. Anyone know? Russ Vernon 95 PC 800 57,000mi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: my new e-mail Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:50:23 -0500 Just for the record... I have a new e-mail address. It is: mlink@citlink.net Hope I have re-subscribed OK... ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Imapcrider@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:16:33 EST To: mlink@citlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Back off the saddle again Hiya Group! I'm back at my dad's house to set a spell and catch up on some bills and what have you. I no longer have a personal computer 'cause my son said that he needed mine more that I did so I am going to use Dad's when I am here to visit. I am giving my PC a little break for a few weeks while I'm here so that I can fix my air horns and get my seat reupholstered. It is really shot. But after 175K, it should be. Need to get MY seat in shape for spring if I am going to hit 200,000 miles before April. I have found a nice '90 PC in Colorado for mere pittance that I think that will get for a spare for when my '94 finally gives up the ghost- whenever that will be. Glad to be back for a while. Hope that all is well with the rest of you. Dave Little -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:41:27 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Tell me it aint so Joe! At 9:44 PM -0500 1/9/99, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: >I have just found out that Metzeler is dropping their most excellent ML2 >tires. Bad news. But I understand that they have in the works a new set of >rubber just for the PC800. I'm not sure if they will be just for the PC800, but I have read that the ML2's are being replaced with the 880, a new tire design. I am also hoping that the tire becomes available by spring, as I have 11,000 miles on my stock tires, and alot of that was straightline, so while the edges have alot of life left in them, the center is getting low.... Anyone have any news? I checked the fitment guide at Metzeler a few weeks ago, and they didn't list the PC800 as a model. Hmmm.. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 23:09:16 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: 90 for sale-So.Cal. Area To: pclist Cc: scpcrc List FWIW- I was at Kolbe Cycle Sales today. They are a honda/kawasaki/yamaha dealer in Woodland Hills, CA (a northern suburb of L.A. county), and I noticed they had a '90 PC for sale asking $3,800. It looked like it was in good condition with about 28,000 miles on the clock. I noticed it had a wing type spoiler as well as the lower spoiler, and both tires looked like they were brand new. It also had what looked like the tall honda shield. The only problem I noticed was a slight case of "melted dash syndrome". John == PC800 FAQ now online! Check it out- http://hhd.csun.edu/john/pcfaq.htm _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Tell me it aint so Joe! Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:04:26 +0100 >ML2's are being replaced with the 880, a new tire design. I am also >hoping that the tire becomes available by spring, as I have 11,000 miles on My shop called around and they told him the 880 would be available around mid-January, so every day now. Or at least in €urope, that is. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYLTDA4P; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:03:24 EST To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:03:50 -0600 Subject: PC800: OOoops.... Pardon my aerodynamics... Mr. Flying Dutchman, Please for me and all of the other `P Coasters... Make that +6 g's and -4. You might impart a pannier at -6. (adverse decaloge and all that) Thereby leaving the PIC in GREAT distress. Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota Monica -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYLWW39S; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:05:33 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:05:53 -0600 Subject: PC800: Fw: Pull the wings off, drill a hole in the sky. --------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:48:34 -0600 Subject: Pull the wings off, drill a hole in the sky. Emile, If you get the Metzler 880's, let us know your evaluation. I expect you would strap on your PC and find where the window ends and terror starts. -6 g's, -4,hammer-head turn and a Cuban eight, perhaps even a dutch roll! Just goofin on ya . I expect that your road evaluation would be engineering at a practical level. I most assuredly am impressed with your methodical approach to the challenges of life. Let us know what happens "when the rubber meets the road." Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota Monica On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:04:26 +0100 "Emile Nossin" writes: >>ML2's are being replaced with the 880, a new tire design. I am also >>hoping that the tire becomes available by spring, as I have 11,000 >miles on -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael D. Linkous" To: "Pacific Coast" Subject: PC800: color rite Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:01:55 -0500 Does anyone happen to have a phone no. or website for Color-Rite? ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Michael D. Linkous Bluefield, WV www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:15:59 -0500 From: Ed Roberts To: "Michael D. Linkous" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: color rite Michael D. Linkous wrote: > > Does anyone happen to have a phone no. or website for Color-Rite? > > > ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- > Michael D. Linkous > Bluefield, WV > www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html > West Coast Sales Office: 11603 Groveland Ave. Whittier, CA 90604 For Info-310-947-9796 Fax-310-902-8068 To ORDER CALL 800-736-7980 OR EMAIL US East Coast Sales Office: 123 Blaine St. E. Bangor, PA For Info-610-588-7355 Fax-610-588-1570 To ORDER CALL 800-358-1882 Website, http://www.color-rite.com/ Ed, Snowed in with cabin fever in Western Pa. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rpattee@g-net.net (Roger A. Pattee) To: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: 90 for sale-So.Cal. Area Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:32:09 GMT Can someone enlighten this PC newbie...what the melted dash syndrome is all about? It appears that the '89 PC I purchased has the Rifle extended windshield on it, but the melted dash syndrome (other then the strator, and the rear tire rub problems) is a new one for me. Thanks all. Roger <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> Betrayed by the land that bore us, forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, and only=20 the evil are here. Stand to your glasses steady, the world is a world full=20 of lies. Here's to those that have gone before us, and here's to=20 the next man that dies. <*><*><*<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> my home on the web..not much, but it was fun to make. http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:39:31 -0800 From: Bob Ronecker To: teleport CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Sparkplugs teleport wrote: > Here's my question for the group. I decided to take care of my winter > service on my PC this weekend and thought I might look into buying some high > end parts. Namely the new Bosch 4+ sparkplugs. It turns out that no place > I've called can figure out how to cross reference between NGK and Bosch > numbers so I thought I turn to the listers. Any ideas? Anyone have these > plugs already? Would they even be a worthwhile purchase? Thanks for the help > > -David > > David Silver > West Linn, Oregon > '89 PC800 > '81 CX650 > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. David , Bosch should have a website so you could give them your current plug number and let them give you the Bosch equivalent. You might consider just replacing with the standard plug though, because they last quite a long time and the new plugs with the gimmick are surely going to cost two or three times what a standard plug would cost. Bob Ronecker 94PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: melted dash syndrome To: "Roger A. Pattee" Cc: pclist ---"Roger A. Pattee" wrote: > > Can someone enlighten this PC newbie...what the melted dash syndrome > is all about? ----8<----snip--- The problem seems to occur only with Honda shields. Both the short and tall. When the bike is parked in a certain orientation to the sun, (I seem to recall the sun has to be shining from the rear) the windshield will act as a lens and focus the suns rays onto the dash, melting the plastic. The melt lines are usually found from a point on the speaker knock out to the top of the dash. See archives for more... John _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYMMYMWD; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:48:21 EST To: pca420@hotmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:49:59 -0700 Subject: PC800: HOT GLUE GLOBS & WONG WING Philips, My concern was the glue globs and glue ruts. Since glue was put on AFTER paint, I presumed that to be the reason it did not stay put. How can I easily and safely remove the hot glue globs? I feel I need a porous, rough surface to re-adhere the Genie light to the Wing. Is this true? Should I pre-test the light with aligator glips to my battery before starting this repair? Please send instructions as if you were talking with a redhead who's had a lot of blonde moments (close together) lately. Thanks! Ann Sun. 1.11.99 13:45 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Radiator blockage Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:00:32 -0500 I don't think it takes anymore horsepower to pump against a closed = themostat than an open one because water pumps are not positive = displacement pumps. They are (at least every one, I've ever seen was) = rotary vane types which simply spin with almost no load when the output = is restricted. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson [SMTP:deere@linknet.net] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 12:50 AM Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Radiator blockage <> It takes horsepower to pump the coolant it and much more HP when the thermostat is closed. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: yet another one Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:30:01 -0500 PCers, I bought yet another motorcycle yesterday. That makes seven (I think). = This one is a '92 250cc Ninja with the motor in a box... my favorite = kind of bargin! It looks great and even has a brand new set of Dunlops. = Looks like a nice winter-time project and a couple of hundred $$ will = make it functional. At that point I'll have about $700 in it. My son is = rev'd about it; for some reason he seems to think it's his.=20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:45:21 -0900 From: jgoula CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Latin for PC'ers and Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show "David L. Sigsbee" wrote: [snip] > However, I want to caution all PC'ers not to try to learn Latin from the > Signals catalog, no matter how tempted they may be. [snip] David, this didn't come from the Signals catalog, but from a smarty-pants co-worker. Feel free to be ruthless while correcting it (Chuckle chuckle ;-) Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Sparkplugs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:45:24 +0100 >David , Bosch should have a website so you could give them your current plug Bosch: http://www.bosch.de/index_e.htm >number and let them give you the Bosch equivalent. You might consider just >replacing with the standard plug though, because they last quite a long time and Just FYI, in a test some time ago about Splitfire plugs, they compared the Splitfire against regular spark plugs and found no difference in power output or fuel efficiency. The Splitfire company said they measured more hp, better fuel economy and more of that BS because of their new technology blah blah.... The PC is allready "twin sparked" and I doubt their "new revolutionary technology" or whatever will really make a difference. YMMV, the facts wont I suspect. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:11:02 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Sparkplugs Emile Nossin wrote: > Just FYI, in a test some time ago about Splitfire plugs, they compared > the Splitfire against regular spark plugs and found no difference in power > output or fuel efficiency. In my experience the Splitfires are junk. I installed them on my Ford Ranger 2.3L four (EFI) and after 15k miles the center electrode was worn to 60% of the original. I never noticed any wear on the stock type plugs. Money well wasted, I say... -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <369791AC.708380AB@memphis.edu> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:36:56 -0400 To: jgoula From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: Latin for PC'ers and Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 4:45 PM -0900 1/10/99, jgoula wrote: >David, this didn't come from the Signals catalog, but from a smarty-pants >co-worker. Feel free to be ruthless while correcting it (Chuckle chuckle ;-) > >Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit >materiari? >-- >Juan I think I know this one Juan. Is it "How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck can chuck wood? " fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:51 -0500 From: "Leland C. Sheppard" To: RVPC800@aol.com CC: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: Tell me it aint so Joe! Hi Russ, RVPC800@aol.com wrote: > I have just found out that Metzeler is dropping their most excellent ML2 > tires. Bad news. But I understand that they have in the works a new set of > rubber just for the PC800. Good news. Does anyone out there know anything > about when we might be seeing the new skins? I have also learned that some > PCers have been using radial tires on their bikes. I even read about using > ML2s on the back and a radial on the front. Sounds interesting and a bit scary > at the same time. I will be needing new rubber by spring time so I am curious > as to what is going on. Anyone know? My understanding is the same as Francois: The ML2 is being replaced by the ME880. The sizes are supposed to include those for the PC according to Metzeler. I thought I understood that the new tire would be available this month. Did that date get pushed back? Anyone know? -- Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 122,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lohan Johnson To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:45:24 +0200 Can anyone maybe post a few URLs for the Wong Wing? Thanks! Lohan -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Tim J. Clevenger [mailto:TClevenger@paypros.com] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 6:51 PM To: 'DavidAklein@webtv.net' Cc: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' Subject: RE: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Phillips Wong can be reached at pca420@hotmail.com. It's about $140 including shipping. I think that if I lived in the snow belt I'd buy an Elite and bolt skis to either side to make a kinda poor man's snowmobile. Regards, Tim Clevenger '98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Klein[SMTP:DavidAklein@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 12:32 PM To: Tim J. Clevenger Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wing Thing installation tips (more!) Happy New Year Tim Thank you for telling us about the installaton of your Christmas present. I'm thinking about buying one. Can you tell me how to contact Mr. Wong to order one? Also how much does it cost? Please e-mail me direct and thanks in advance. My wife and I went for a walk last night checking out the winter wonderland/storm damage. We were still under a snow emergency (emergency vehicle traffic only). 2 snowmobiles (traveling really fast) passed us as we were walking down the street. We saw a third headlight coming toward us thinking it was a slower moving snowmobile. To our surprise and amazement it turned out to be a person on a moped. The rider was using his legs/feet as skis to prevent his wiping out. I got a chuckle out of that sight. We got 7-9 inches of snow from the storm. Dave Klein DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne, IND. --- Awarded; "All-American City" status for 1999 "Happy New Year" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:51:00 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Lynn To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List To those on the HSTA and Pc800 lists who do not know the Sawyer family, I= apologize for making this post. But to those of you that do know our family, I want to share the following message with you. = For the past couple of weeks Lynn had been dealing with pneumonia and shingles. She had been to the doctor and had received various medications= . Saturday morning we took Lynn back to the doctor, and from the doctor's office we took Lynn to the hospital. She was having great difficulty breathing and was immediately given oxygen. She is in the ICU unit at a Columbia hospital, and we hope that later today she will be able to breat= he on her own. If this proves positive, she will be transferred to a private= room for further observation and recovery. Our oldest daughter Julia (a nurse by profession) is here with us from Charleston, and Laura (who live= s with us) are helping me and we are visiting Lynn regularly. She has made significant progress and we feel that she will recover in the near future= and be able to return home. Her lungs were filled with fluid but that condition has improved greatly. I will keep you folks posted concerning h= er progress, and in the meantime we would appreciate your thoughts and prayers. Thanks!! Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RVPC800@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:09:36 EST To: Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lynn Dana- I am deeply saddened by your report on Lynn's illness. I pray for her quick and complete recovery. The HSTA Tennstar rally where the two of you and I had motel rooms next to each other allowed me to get to know a couple of real gems. I regret that we have not been able to get together lately, but I am confident that we will be seeing each other in future riding dates. Please give her my best, and tell her that her husband's Pacific Coast does not look right unless she is sitting pretty as a picture on the back of it. Russ Vernon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:26:51 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sparkplugs List Members: Question: None of my standard plug sockets will fit in the plug holes. Does the PC require a special socket????? KLW TN 90PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "dana sawyer" , "HondaPacificCoastOwners" , "HSTA Postings to List" Subject: Re: PC800: Lynn Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:40:55 -0500 We will be praying for her and keeping her in our prayers. R. A. Robinson -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dana sawyer To: HondaPacificCoastOwners ; HSTA Postings to List Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 6:53 AM Subject: PC800: Lynn To those on the HSTA and Pc800 lists who do not know the Sawyer family, I apologize for making this post. But to those of you that do know our family, I want to share the following message with you. For the past couple of weeks Lynn had been dealing with pneumonia and shingles. She had been to the doctor and had received various medications. Saturday morning we took Lynn back to the doctor, and from the doctor's office we took Lynn to the hospital. She was having great difficulty breathing and was immediately given oxygen. She is in the ICU unit at a Columbia hospital, and we hope that later today she will be able to breathe on her own. If this proves positive, she will be transferred to a private room for further observation and recovery. Our oldest daughter Julia (a nurse by profession) is here with us from Charleston, and Laura (who lives with us) are helping me and we are visiting Lynn regularly. She has made significant progress and we feel that she will recover in the near future and be able to return home. Her lungs were filled with fluid but that condition has improved greatly. I will keep you folks posted concerning her progress, and in the meantime we would appreciate your thoughts and prayers. Thanks!! Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'KLW@centuryinter.net'" Cc: Pacific Coast Owners Subject: RE: PC800:Paint matching,(was D'oh! Mirror) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:13:24 -0500 A major problem on the '90 and the Candy Glory red is the fact that it is so susceptible to fading. Before my '90 went away the tops of the mirrors and other areas were almost white. Color matching must be about impossible. Roger Prince -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Winter [SMTP:KLW@centuryinter.net] Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 11:10 AM To: Leland C. Sheppard Cc: Roger Pariseau; Pacific Coast Owners Subject: Re: PC800: D'oh! Mirror Leland '94 Pacific Coast "Black Beauty" 121,000 miles Leland, I am finding the paint on the Candy Glory Red model amazingly HARD to match. I know that it is a three part color. Grey, Candy apple red and clear coat. I have gotten very close with touch up paint for the auto part store. I will share the color codes if anyone is interested. The paint from color-rite cost $65. I have $25 in the total job so far. I would have bought the more expensive paint,if someone had not told me IT COULD NOT be done with auto paints. Panels can be repairable!! I will tell you how if you care to know. It is labor intensive, but it saves money. I saved $240 by rebuilding the right side main fairing. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 PC Second Chance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Misumi, Fred" To: "'CHRISTOPHER HALL'" Subject: PC800: RE: PC 800 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:32:14 -0800 Passing this on ... to the PC800 newsgroup, Donna, Kevin, & Marianne Thanks Chris! > -----Original Message----- > From: CHRISTOPHER HALL [SMTP:HALL.CHRISTOPHER@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV] > Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 10:20 AM > > Subject: PC 800 > > Fred - Happy new year. Hope the holidays > were good to you. Hey - I still have my Pacific > Coast up on the auction block. Could you let > any and all of your motorcycling cohorts know > that it is still available and for sale (details > below). Thanks. > > 1994 PC 800; Black; 2900 miles; > radio/cassette player w/speakers and controls > on fairing; CB ready; dust cover. $4600 > > Also available at a very cheap price: XL > helmet; XXL rain/wind suit; leather gloves w/ > lambswool inner; rain/mud overshoe booties > (size 12); trickle charger; Honda aftermarket > windshield; Rifle aftermarket windshield. About > $750 new. I will sell all for $200. > > P.S. I was at the Honda dealership last week > and found out that they are not making the > PC800's any longer. 1998 was the last year. > Too bad, they are nice motorcycles. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tom and Anita Humphrey" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: Sparkplugs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:07:38 -0800 Importance: Normal Yes, you want to use the spark plug tool in the PC tool kit. It is designed with the proper reach and angle to install and remove the 4 PC plugs. Any other tool just won't work! Good luck - Tom -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:53:47 -0500 From: Kenneth Winter To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Worry List members; Someone ended a message, with a saying about worry. Something like "why worry about something I can not change so there is not worry at all". Please send another copy of the closing to KLW@centuryinter.net. I want to give it to a hardcore worrier. Kenneth Winter East TN 90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "PCSG Ltd." To: Subject: PC800: Latin for PC'ers Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:11:15 -0000 Honda PC800 is such a reliable and near perfect bike... When other Motorcylists frantically talk about how to repair bits and pieces of their rattleboxes; we have the time and luxury of discussing Latin, of all things! Nice..... Job Sussex England ---------- > From: jgoula > To: > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: Latin for PC'ers and Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show > Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 1:45 AM > > "David L. Sigsbee" wrote: > [snip] > > However, I want to caution all PC'ers not to try to learn Latin from the > > Signals catalog, no matter how tempted they may be. > [snip] > > David, this didn't come from the Signals catalog, but from a smarty-pants > co-worker. Feel free to be ruthless while correcting it (Chuckle chuckle ;-) > > Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit > materiari? > -- > Juan > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W > --------------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Lee A. Morris" To: "PC Listers" , "HSTA" Subject: PC800: Insurance woes and remedy Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:59:12 -0600 Ladies & Gents: Just thought I'd pass along a little bad news/good news story to the lists. Bad News: I received my notice today for a 1 year renewal with National General Insurance Co. (St. Louis, MO) and my policy went from $233 to $372. I couldn't believe it since we are talking about a PC800 driven by a soon-to-be 60 yr old man with an excellent driving record. I called up National General and was told that the increases--especially the collision (which raised 122%)--were based upon loss of the touring discount. The company discount was changed to the bike being a minimum of 975CC instead of the previous years of 450CC. Of course it didn't matter that Honda classifies the PC as a touring bike for their warranty. I hung up in disgust. Good News: I checked out the Progressive.com site and got an online quote which was great. However, once I called their 800 number to order the policy, I was quoted an even better figure of $166 for the 12 month policy with the same coverage I had at National General. I'm sure glad National General raised their rates!!! I won't take up any more bandwidth concerning this, but if anyone wants more info or wants the extension number of a very helpful lady at Progressive, E-mail me privately and I'll reply ASAP. Regards, Lee Gravois Mills, MO '97 PC800 - AMA/HSTA/HRCA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 387 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:59:28 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "Pc800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Bike insurance company Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:01:11 -0500 Importance: Normal Any Maryland'ers have any experience with a cycle insurance company by the title of "Maryland Cycle DIRECT Insurance"? I just received a snail mailing from them and have never heard of them before. They claim very competitive rates. Thanks, Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:30:55 -0500 From: Ed Roberts To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Paint matching Kenneth, I have a 90 candy red PC and would like to know the paint numbers that match. It would be good for those little nicks and scratches without buying the expensive stuff that is going to go bad sitting around anyway. Thanks, Ed Roberts Hickory, Pa. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYQJF6F3; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:44:38 EST To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:20:41 -0600 Subject: PC800: Re: OOoops.... Pardon my aerodynamics... Howdy (that's upper midwest for hello). The PIC (pilot in command, translation is for KIWI's) asked what is decaloge? Dug deep into the old memory bucket for that one DECALOGE (sp) the difference in the angle of incidence of the two wings on a bi plane. Not too sure about the spelling and as I recall it could be a speed limiter in a terminal dive. I read once that the riggers (mechanics) in WW1 would crank in more DECALOGE for newbi fighter pilots. If you would like I could dig out some of my old aerodynamic manuals and let you know the reference. You did mention the "crash bar covers". I have four new ones for Monica (ouch in the wallet) and I am reconditioning the old ones for use early in the riding season. I am spending about $2000 on Monica and she should be in original show - room condition. What with the new parts, paint and repair on others and a WONG - WING `NOTHIN CAN STOP ME NOW.... Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota Monica >It must be those red-outs. Anyone got a new pressure suit ? >BTW, what is decaloge ? >___ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:01:13 -0600 To: anitom@pacbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Paul B. Atkins" Subject: RE: PC800: Sparkplugs At 1:13 PM -0500 1/11/99, anitom@pacbell.net wrote: >Yes, you want to use the spark plug tool in the PC tool kit. It is designed >with the proper reach and angle to install and remove the 4 PC plugs. Any >other tool just won't work! >Good luck - Tom I found the tool worked well, my problem with winterizing my bike was not being able to squirt some oil down the right front cyclnder...couldn't see or feel where to put the stuff! Paul Paul B. Atkins patkins@mari.net Marinette, Wisconsin 1996 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:57:28 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: bmckenna@mint.net Subject: PC800: New England Ride for Kids page updated & working!!! http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm or http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk faster loading, deeper, more info & links than before... a little cleaner too. Get what you want, skip what you don't... With Special thanks to our friends @ Maine Internet works http://www.mint.net Check it out, let me know what you think? Pass the word. Regards, Bill -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill McKenna - AugustaMaine - USA The size of your body is of little account; the size of your brain is of much account; the size of your heart is of the most account of all. -B.C. Forbes Open your heart for Ride for Kids @ http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/nerfk ~~ Keep up to date, Sign onto the NERFK update-list ~~ ST1100 News groups @ news.fremme.no -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYQQ4JAP; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:40:37 EST To: pcsg@mistral.co.uk Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:43 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Latin for PC'ers Without any question you have the best looking PC800 in the world today... Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota Monica >On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:11:15 -0000 "PCSG Ltd." writes: >Honda PC800 is such a reliable and near perfect bike... >When other Motorcylists frantically talk about how to repair bits and >pieces of their rattleboxes; we have the time and luxury of discussing >Latin, of all things! Nice..... > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYQUV87D; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:47:05 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: johnl@wvpa.com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:40:59 -0700 Subject: PC800: LIGHTS ARE ON but NO ONE'S HOME FALLEN GENIE IGNIGHTED ... What a turn on! 1) LIGHT TESTING: I touched the two bare light wires to an ordinary 9-volt battery (like for smoke detector) and it lit brightly. I KNOW I'm gonna love it ... IF I every get it installed. I have visions of riding the Ghost to So. Cal. in the spring and throwing myself on Harrison Spain's mercy for installation. *Hmmm* THAT may not be such a bad plan (she said lazily). 2) HOT GLUE GLOB: It came off easily....too easily! I gathered my courage and applied a light touch with a single edged razorblade. It peeled right off (without a single gasp from me) .... that is, where it was actually attached to the light bar. Remember, NONE was stuck to the prepainted, clear-coated, wing itself. 3) STIXALL By Elmer (Borden) Glue: This was suggested by a Lister, but the stores I checked yesterday had none. Hope springs eternal. My biker budd said he'd used it to attach a chromed cap to his Valkyrie, which rumbles and vibrates a lot more than my Ghost. So far, his cap is staying put. I intend to try to reglue the bar to the wing with it ... AFTER roughing up the paint and/or removing as much paint as possible where the glue globs go. Removing the paint has proven a challenge. Files are hard to fit in the irregular, indented, molded configuration. So far, emery boards (like for filing fingernails) have worked the best. Any suggestions for speeding this process up. The emery boards load up with paint quickly. 4) DUMB QUESTION: Is it REALLY necessary to take the seat and trunk lid off for the installation? (She whined.) That's my least favorite part. i.e. What comes off, must go back on. 5) MEMORY JOGGER: Please reply off-List. Thx! Ann '89 PC-AZ Dim-Ghost Mon. 1.11.99 19:35 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, vespaed@dp.net Subject: Re: PC800: Paint matching Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:00:20 PST Hi all! >I have a 90 candy red PC and would like to know the paint numbers >that match. It would be good for those little nicks and scratches >without buying the expensive stuff that is going to go bad sitting >around anyway. Thanks, If you guys able to source such paints other than Color-Rite, please post and share with me. COlor-Rite is good, just too expensive. Also you have to buy a special reducer (thinner) for their urethane paints. Other thinners used by Atobody shops won't work. It turn out to be completely dried and hardened after 4 months - the paint coating soft like rubber for the 1st 4 months. I don't think their thinner is real special, but you'll have to buy the 1st time, and get more from your local auto paint supplier. - Philips Wong Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course) Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997 GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider 1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 30 Chinese Water Dragons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:25:43 -0500 (EST) To: Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com (dana sawyer) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (HondaPacificCoastOwners), hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu (HSTA Postings to List) Subject: Re: PC800: Lynn Jan 1999 06:51:00 -0500 --WebTV-Mail-1681893181-655 Hello Dana, Sounds like the New Year has'nt been very kind to you so far. I will say a prayer for Lynn & encourage you & others to visit: http://www.the700club.org/prayer/index.asp?url=/counseling They have a toll free # ; 24 HR. Prayer line, &, on-line E-mail Prayer request form. Dave Klein DavidAklein@WebTV.Net Fort Wayne, IND. --- Awarded; "All-American City" status for 1999 "Happy New Year" --WebTV-Mail-1681893181-655 postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:53:02 -0800 (PST) mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id DAA01265; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:53:01 -0800 (PST) bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAC27165; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:53:00 -0600 (CST) FAA26228 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:52:46 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:51:00 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Lynn To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List To those on the HSTA and Pc800 lists who do not know the Sawyer family, I= apologize for making this post. But to those of you that do know our family, I want to share the following message with you. = For the past couple of weeks Lynn had been dealing with pneumonia and shingles. She had been to the doctor and had received various medications= . Saturday morning we took Lynn back to the doctor, and from the doctor's office we took Lynn to the hospital. She was having great difficulty breathing and was immediately given oxygen. She is in the ICU unit at a Columbia hospital, and we hope that later today she will be able to breat= he on her own. If this proves positive, she will be transferred to a private= room for further observation and recovery. Our oldest daughter Julia (a nurse by profession) is here with us from Charleston, and Laura (who live= s with us) are helping me and we are visiting Lynn regularly. She has made significant progress and we feel that she will recover in the near future= and be able to return home. Her lungs were filled with fluid but that condition has improved greatly. I will keep you folks posted concerning h= er progress, and in the meantime we would appreciate your thoughts and prayers. Thanks!! Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --WebTV-Mail-1681893181-655-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYQZDT6H; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:05:31 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Cc: johnl@wvpa.com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:08:31 -0700 Subject: PC800: PHILIPS re. HOT GLUE GLOBS --------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Philips Wong" Hi Ann, I have no problem to remove those hot glue with bare hand, or you can try heat and soften them with a hairdryer before removal. Removing hot glues stains won't hurt paint surfaces except you use sharp objects/tools. Rough surface will do a better job but adhere directly to paint surfaces never cause me a problem. The killing point is wax especially those with silicone. Clean old way with alcohol is suggested. You'll noticed there're 3 slabs on the LED cavity - 2 narrower on both sides and the middle one is much wider. Thus these 3 slabs formed 2 narrow slots. You should apply hot glue to these 2 narrow slots, also to the 2 triangular areas on both sides. The three slabs won't get in touch to the GENIE light bar, this is part of the design to discharge water or liquid detergent instead of trapped inside. That maybe troublesome if you seldom play with hot glue guns, that's why I suggest you use fast set silicone sealant, as they takes about 30 minutes to set, you can apply to the whole cavity with small amount in excess, put GENIE on, squeeze out excess amount of sealant and then wipe off. All LED light bars had been checked for functioning, you may check again for sure. The black/white wire is the "+" wire, while the plain black one is the "-" wire. Let me know if it doesn't work. Sorry for cause you the troubles! - Philips Wong -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Worry Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:17:16 +0100 >Someone ended a message, with a saying about worry. Something like "why >worry about something I can not change so there is not worry at all". >Please send another copy of the closing to KLW@centuryinter.net. >I want to give it to a hardcore worrier. This one ? : "If the problem can be solved there is no use worrying about it. If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry." It's from the movie "Seven years in Tibet", where the Dalai Lama tells his friend about that old Tibet saying. It's very sobering, I think. Greetings, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "Nothing lasts forever.... .....Except things behind the fridge...." "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Re: OOoops.... Pardon my aerodynamics... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:47:21 +0100 >Howdy (that's upper midwest for hello). Hoi (that's upper midwest (€urope) for hi). >DECALOGE (sp) the difference in the angle of incidence of the >two wings on a bi plane. Ah right, a bi plane. I remember those. From pictures, I believe. Sheez, you're old.. ; ) >like I could dig out some of my old aerodynamic manuals and let you know >the reference. Oh no (more study..pff..), I'll believe you. >You did mention the "crash bar covers". I have four new ones for Monica >(ouch in the wallet) and I am reconditioning the old ones for use early >in the riding season. Aha, so you plan to do some crashing ? Or you just like to take higher risks during spring ? I tested mine during the summer. There's not much difference in crashing it during the summer or winter, I think. I prefer summer because the asphalt is warmer then to lie on. And there are usually more spectators outside in summer. You have to think about those public relations offcourse. I pasted my testing results below from the archives (18 July '98). Enjoy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >And how easy is it to replace plastic parts, > especially the crash guard covers cuz the way I see it, they'll be the ones > that'll get banged up most in a drop. Not that anybody ever dropped a PC > 'fore or ever plans too....> Alan> '97 Pacific Coast As a test pilot on this list I can confirm the covers take a lot of heat. I tested this with a drop to the right and a slider over left at ca. 30 mph. With both tests the "crash guards" prevented the handlebars and even the mirrors to touch the ground. In order to still test the "break away" mirrors I kicked off the left mirror during the slider test. It came off, kept hanging on a steel wire and still didn't touch the ground (not a scratch). The mirror was reinstalled within a minute. I also kicked off the tall Honda shield to see how easy it would be to replace the shield. It cracked at the bottom and came off at the left side. Because the test ran out of it's budget, I decided to use superglue instead of a new shield. Taking the shield off and on can be done within 15 minutes. The "crash guard" covers are fairly easy to replace, as long as you know where all the plastic tabs are before you start sqeezing and pulling. The rear covers sqeez/pull of direct, the front covers have a screw at the bottom you have to remove before you can sqeez/pull the cover off. This can be done within a matter of minutes. The thing that took most time was waiting for the new ones to arrive after 2 moths from the other side of the Atlantic (to find out Honda packed one with the wrong color). The hard part is not the replacing, it's the paying (plastic is very expensive these days). Proffesional post-test examination reveiled no hidden damage to the chassis. My opinion is the "crash guards / crash bars / engine guards " prevented my leg from being caught under the bike during the slider test and thus preventing (serious) injuries. A side note: the tests were not performed voluntarely. Verdict: safe bike, designed for optimal crashing without optimal trashing. The covers are expensive to replace, however not as expensive as (for example) clutch lever + bar end + mirror + turn indicators + engine parts (?) + exhaust pipe + footpeg + fueltank +headlight + fairing parts + left leg. I recommend not to repeat or simulate these tests. Kids, don't try this at home. Sincerely, your (crash test) dummie, ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl >>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rodneycarey@juno.com by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYRSG3HW; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:24:11 EST To: Emile@Cybercomm.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:11:02 -0600 Subject: PC800: Re: OOoops.... I was thinkin about using the cheep crash - bar covers in case there is some spring time dummie influence Rodney Carey `94 PC800 St. Paul, Minnesota Monica >The covers are expensive to replace, however not as expensive as (for >example) >clutch lever + bar end + mirror + turn indicators + engine parts (?) + >exhaust pipe >+ footpeg + fueltank +headlight + fairing parts + left leg. >I recommend not to repeat or simulate these tests. Kids, don't try >this at home. >Sincerely, your (crash test) dummie, >___ >[_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > >"If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." > >http://fly.to/emile >ICQ 17992318 >Emile@Cybercomm.nl > >>>>>>>>> > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:44:48 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Lynn - Update To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Lynn was moved last night from intermediate ICU to a semi-private room. She is feeling much better, and is certainly glad to be alive. We could have lost her this past weekend...Life is great and God is good!= I assured her that I was not planning to trade her in on a new model! We hope that she will be able to come home later this week. The doctor says that it will take her at least two months to re-gain her strength. We've had forty-four great years with more to come! Many thanks for the many messages that you folks have sent. Saturday morning she was down to breathing out of a very small area in he= r lungs, as they were almost completely filled with fluid. No definite word on whether or to what extent a cardiac problem may have contributed to her illness. More updates later this week. Have a great week...hug that special someone and tell him/her that you lo= ve them. Don't make your last words to a loved one "I sure wish that you could lea= rn how to fix my eggs!" We love you all! Dana, Lynn, Julia and Laura (the Sawyer tribe) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Roger Bowen" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: OOoops.... Pardon my aerodynamics... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:07:23 -0800 Emile wrote: >Aha, so you plan to do some crashing ? Or you just like to take higher risks >during spring ? I tested mine during the summer. There's not much difference >in crashing it during the summer or winter, I think. I prefer summer because >the asphalt is warmer then to lie on. And there are usually more spectators >outside in summer. You have to think about those public relations offcourse. >I pasted my testing results below from the archives (18 July '98). Enjoy. > >As a test pilot on this list I can confirm the covers take a lot of heat. >I tested this with a drop to the right and a slider over left at ca. 30 mph. >With both tests the "crash guards" prevented the handlebars and even >the mirrors to touch the ground. In order to still test the "break away" >mirrors I kicked off the left mirror during the slider test. It came off, >kept hanging on a steel wire and still didn't touch the ground (not a scratch). >The mirror was reinstalled within a minute. I also kicked off the tall Honda >shield to see how easy it would be to replace the shield. It cracked at the >bottom and came off at the left side. Because the test ran out of it's budget, >I decided to use superglue instead of a new shield. Taking the shield off >and on can be done within 15 minutes. >The "crash guard" covers are fairly easy to replace, as long as you know where >all the plastic tabs are before you start sqeezing and pulling. The rear covers >sqeez/pull of direct, the front covers have a screw at the bottom you have to remove >before you can sqeez/pull the cover off. This can be done within a matter of minutes. >The thing that took most time was waiting for the new ones to arrive after 2 moths from >the other side of the Atlantic (to find out Honda packed one with the wrong color). >The hard part is not the replacing, it's the paying (plastic is very expensive these days). >Proffesional post-test examination reveiled no hidden damage to the chassis. >My opinion is the "crash guards / crash bars / engine guards " prevented my leg >from being caught under the bike during the slider test and thus preventing (serious) >injuries. A side note: the tests were not performed voluntarely. >Verdict: safe bike, designed for optimal crashing without optimal trashing. >The covers are expensive to replace, however not as expensive as (for example) >clutch lever + bar end + mirror + turn indicators + engine parts (?) + exhaust pipe >+ footpeg + fueltank +headlight + fairing parts + left leg. >I recommend not to repeat or simulate these tests. Kids, don't try this at home. >Sincerely, your (crash test) dummie, >___ >[_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" >[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort > My Gosh Emile, no wonder you wear SO much protective clothing! I try to keep the 'rubber side' down. Roger Bowen (the almost Squid) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:32:27 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: PC800: PC plastic Emile Nossin wrote: >[snip]> > Taking the shield off and on can be done within 15 minutes. > The "crash guard" covers are fairly easy to replace, as long as you know where > all the plastic tabs are before you start sqeezing and pulling. The rear covers > sqeez/pull of direct, the front covers have a screw at the bottom you have to > remove before you can sqeez/pull the cover off. This can be done within a matter > of minutes. This gives me an idea. How about a contest for the Great Y2K PC² Ride? We could see who takes the least amount of time to completely remove the plastic off the PC, then put it back on. Points will be substracted for broken mounting tabs, lost screws and left over parts. Any suggestions for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes? Of course, owners of '89s through '96s get a 5 minute handicap to compensate for the front fender. :-) > Verdict: safe bike, designed for optimal crashing without optimal trashing. Ummm... Emile? I think you should re-think your phrasing. Can you imagine what your airline passengers would think if you told them that your plane was safe because it was designed for "optimal crashing?" ;-) -- Juan Antonio Goula Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id A8BD8103A4; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:41 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:56:44 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: PC800 list CC: GenMar Subject: PC800: PC800 Handlebar Risers Has anyone successfully installed risers on the PC? Due to my short arms (32" sleeve), I'm forced into a forward lean with hunched shoulders. Being more of a touring, rather than a sport rider, it's my one major fault finding with the PC. I've contacted GenMar, and they're willing to custom make a set for me, but say I would have to leave the cover off. I don't know if they mean the center cover or the entire bar covers (which can't be left off because they house the switches). Under the center cover, there is also a strip of metal running fore & aft over the bars as they set in the fork bridge. I can't determine its function and can't tell if it would have to go or not. Gene, at GenMar, says their risers would move the bars up and back 1", which would be great. However, I can't tell by looking, if the covers, harnesses, etc. could be moved this amount. I wasn't given a price by GenMar, but for custom work, it would be enough that I'm not willing to take the chance that they would be useless. Has anyone had any experience at all re-locating the PC's bars? Thanks in advance for any help. Richard Hardy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: OOoops.... Pardon my aerodynamics... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:23:48 +0100 >My Gosh Emile, no wonder you wear SO much protective clothing! >I try to keep the 'rubber side' down. >Roger Bowen (the almost Squid) Me too. Keep in mind that the glider test was sponsored by the Dutch bus company that provided the oil on the roundabout for free and the city of Haarlem that also contributed to the event by laying a small layer of sand on top of that. Invisible for the spectators at night this proofed to be a terrific ice simulation without having to wait for winter. I didn't screw up, they did, but I didn't have to pay the price (my PC did). I do prefer the rubber side down though, it's much cheaper. ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:45:46 -0400 To: Richard Hardy , PC800 list From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Handlebar Risers Cc: GenMar At 11:56 AM -0800 1/12/99, Richard Hardy wrote: >Has anyone successfully installed risers on the PC? I haven't needed to try this yet, as I suffer from the opposite problem (arms too long ! ) but, the PC800 bars are adjustable a small amount. Have you tried to adjust them back as much as possible to see if it would be enough? If you install a custom made spacer, that simply raises the bar an inch or so, then you could probably keep the handlebar covers, but would have to remove the center cover so you could reach the ignition key. I'm not sure how much slack there is in the hydraulic hoses from the brake and clutch, and if there is enough to raise the bar an inch or more. But....if you did have to modify this, it would be a good time to replace the hoses with braided stainless steel. Good luck...and keep us posted. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tosh Konya" To: "Richard Hardy" , "PC800 list" Cc: "GenMar" Subject: PC800: PC800 Handlebar Risers Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:13:19 -0800 >Has anyone successfully installed risers on the PC? Due to my short >arms (32" sleeve), I'm forced into a forward lean with hunched >shoulders... I think its easier to "sculpt-out" the seat which will do two things: 1) increase bun contact area for more comfort and 2) lower the seat which is the same as raising the bars without all the hassle. If you have a stock windshield, lowering the seat may get you closer to the "quiet zone." I'm thinking of sending my seat to Sargent for reason #1. The reach to the bars doesn't bother me even though my sleeve length is also 32". Fitting taller bars removes weight from the front end so will adversely effect how nicely the PC turns. I wouldn't mess with bar height if I were you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD4E1AC03C6; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:31:42 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:32:46 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: PC800 list , GenMar Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Handlebar Risers They are adjustable only up and down, i.e., they swivel in the fork bridge, so when the grips are at 3 o'clock, they're at the maximum position aft. I've got them adjusted optimally for me now. I wouldn't mind leaving the center plastic cover off - I expect to in order to reach the ignition, but I don't want to replace the wiring harnesses or brake lines. Richard -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:32:12 -0900 From: jgoula To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re:PC800 Handlebar Risers A couple of points to ponder: Tosh Konya wrote: > I think its easier to "sculpt-out" the seat which will do two things: 1) > increase bun contact area for more comfort and 2) lower the seat which ... > If you have a stock windshield, lowering the seat may get you closer to the > "quiet zone." The reach to the bars doesn't bother me even though my sleeve > length is also 32". Fitting taller bars removes weight from the front end > so will adversely effect how nicely the PC turns. If you lower the seat it _will_ have the same effect as raising the bars, affecting the amount of weight you put on them and thus the front end. This might be slighty countered by the fact that you are lowering the combined CG. Also, remember that when you lower the seat you reduce the amount of legroom available, not generous to begin with on the PC. On long trips this becomes a problem even for my 30" (pants) inseam. If you have highway pegs this might not be a problem. Food for thought. -- Juan Fairbanks, Alaska Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W --------------------------------------------------------- School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks (907)474-5520 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AaronJ007@aol.com for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:47:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:47:03 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Kisan Modulator Works!!! Just received the newly revamped headlight modulator from Andy at Kisan, and it works without a hitch! No more modulating in the dark. Granted I've only run it a short while, but barring any changes, I believe that the folks at Kisan have solved the problem with this new filter. My sincere thanks to Andy and all the folks at Kisan for their persistance at tackling this thing head on, and sticking with it until the problem was fixed. I'm sure that the number of Pacific Coast owners of their product is relatively small, and this kind of dedication to customer satisfaction is a rare gem indeed! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:28:51 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Richard Hardy CC: PC800 list , GenMar Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Handlebar Risers I ordered two extra clamps that hold the bars on and the dealer had 4 bolts that were about 3/4" longer and I installed the new clamps, flat side down, under the bars and reinstalled the old clamps over the bars using the longer screws. It gives me a good bit of adjustment. If you are going back with the bars you may have a problem getting your key into the hole, but a lister that had that problem solved it by having an new key made without the rubber on it and now has no trouble. I adjusted the bars up so that they were higher and I have no problem with the key but my hands obstruct the view of the mirrors slightly. This solution leaves a gap under the center bar cover of about 3/4" more or less depending on how you tilt the bars. I think the clamps and screws cost me about $25. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 7/98 SS1000 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:56:31 -0500 Subject: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I have finally settled on a hotel for this coming weekend's motorcycle show in NYC. I will be at the Travel Inn, 515 West 42nd Street (between 10th & 11th Ave.), the phone is 212-695-7171. If any other Pacific Coasters want to meet for the show, or just sit and chat, please give me a call. The reservation will be under the name Thomas Davies (my travel name:-)) I'm driving down on Friday afternoon, leaving as early as possible, and I hope to be there by 7 PM. I will be leaving for home sometime on Sunday. PS- If you know anything negative about the Travel Inn please keep it to yourself. I'm not changing hotels again:-) Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:14:26 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: New York City Motorcycle Show At 10:56 PM -0500 1/12/99, PC800 Rider wrote: >PS- If you know anything negative about the Travel Inn please keep >it to yourself. I'm not changing hotels again:-) > >Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 >Seneca Falls, New York 13148 You should be okay. I think most of the cockroaches were killed in that big fire back in October. Besides...I hear they have upgraded a few rooms so that they have their own washrooms now.... hee hee hee fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:04:49 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Handlebar risers Sounds like there are MANY options on handlebar adjustments. And to think....I was going to have my arms stretched instead!! JPatton 89PC800 94Shadow VT1100C -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 12 Jan 99 20:21:56 AKST From: Jo Ruby To: Subject: PC800: Handlebar Riders A while back someone posted that they were able to raise the handlebars u= p by getting an extra set of handlebar holders and installing them on the exis= ting ones (I am sure this would be in the archives). It just so happened that = I picked up my extra set of the above-mentioned and I am going to install t= hem to see if they will help. It looks like it will be only about a 1/2 inch height increase, but then I could probably bring the handlebars back a bi= t more because of the added height. If I remember, the only modification was having to make the hole above th= e ignition to be able to use the key. Was at the Seattle mc show and I think if I ever decide to get me a new b= ike, I will get a Kawasaki Voyager. That bike fits me perfectly (big seat for = a big butt and the reach on the handlebars is perfect). Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska 1994 PC800 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Handlebar risers Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:48:22 +0100 >Sounds like there are MANY options on handlebar adjustments. And to >think....I was going to have my arms stretched instead!! Interesting to see the interest on higher bars. I, like FSL, also find the bars too high actually. I would like them to be a little more 'sportier', like on the ST. That way it's easier to keep my back from slouching and to take some weight of my butt. I allways thought everybody sits straight up on the PC, but we seem to have a wide variety of physical sizes here. I must admit that it's not that hard to sit straight up with 6'3", but with my long back that's pretty tiring. BMW is the only one working with adjustable handlebars, footpegs, seats and screens. I hope Honda will do the same thing one day. And that while it is so normal in cars, strange... ___ [_ mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman" [__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort "If it aint Dutch, it aint much..." http://fly.to/emile ICQ 17992318 Emile@Cybercomm.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:00:04 -0500 From: Thomas Ongstad To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Thanks Thanks to all regarding finding a Battery Tender. I sure appreciated all the responses and have put them to good use. I save many of the letters on here for future use when I have to work on the PC, change tires, batteries, etc. Snowed in again in Michigan, TommyTeal (TommyWhite that is, in this weather) -- 93SE (Teal, You Think?) 95Hannigan 95ACE (got to go) 97Pacific Coast 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet) GWTA #6871 GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: Subject: PC800: PC 2000 ? Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:31:08 +0100 I have searched the the list server for info on this and need to be = updated. Anyone?? =20 Arvid =20 =20 ------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Brad Herndon" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:38:46 -0600 Subject: PC800: Givi Topcase Hello, listers, For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a topcase and had a few questions: With the installed case, do any of you notice a difference in handling, aerodynamics, etc.? I was just curious. >From reading the archives, my impression is that the quality is top notch, I just didn't see any comments regarding if it affected handling, center of gravity and those sorts of things. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses. Brad Herndon, 98'PC800 Mesquite,TX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 13 Jan 1999 13:57:51 UT To: "Arvid L=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F8vik"?= cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:43:13 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: PC 2000 ? Are you typing about the GPCPCY2KTP? Great Pacific Coast Pacific Coast Year 2000 Tupperware Party Planing on a ride in CA in the year 2000 for all PC riders, and anyone else. Don't know all the details. Roger R -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by gehenna.rutgers.edu with SMTP; 13 Jan 1999 14:04:03 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:00:55 -0500 To: "Brad Herndon" From: Keith Sproul Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Topcase Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Hello, listers, >For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a >topcase and had a few questions: With the installed case, do any of you >notice a difference in handling, aerodynamics, etc.? I was just curious. >From reading the archives, my impression is that the quality is top notch, >I just didn't see any comments regarding if it affected handling, center of >gravity and those sorts of things. >Any feedback would be appreciated. >Thanks in advance for your responses. >Brad Herndon, 98'PC800 >Mesquite,TX > I have one, and have caried a LOT of stuff in it.. I have not noticed much difference. When it is fully loaded, I do notice the weight, but it is not a problem.. I really love their products and a friend is getting one for his Helix.. Keith Keith Sproul ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu WU2Z Student Housing Network Coordinator 732 445-3695 W Rutgers University Computing Services 732 821-4828 H -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "arjan" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Topcase Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:06:03 +0100 Hello We have a 50 liter Givi maxima and i notice when there is a lot of cross wind that the bike is much more sensitive for those winds. I also noticed that when i want to ride with out my hands on the handle bar the bike is more instable. But above all you can take so much stuff with you and its a nice back rest for a passenger. Most of the time when i ride alone i dont have the givi on the bike. Only in case of a urgent need to take more stuff than will fit in the trunk i take the givi with me. Resuming; since you can remove the givi you can decide when to use it or not. My opinion is that is a verry usefull extension of the pc800 possibility's. ---------- Van: Brad Herndon Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Onderwerp: PC800: Givi Topcase Datum: woensdag 13 januari 1999 14:38 Hello, listers, For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a topcase and had a few questions: With the installed case, do any of you notice a difference in handling, aerodynamics, etc.? I was just curious. >From reading the archives, my impression is that the quality is top notch, I just didn't see any comments regarding if it affected handling, center of gravity and those sorts of things. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses. Brad Herndon, 98'PC800 Mesquite,TX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu.---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Imapcrider@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:07:47 EST To: Brad_Herndon@morningstar-group.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Topcase In a message dated 1/13/99 7:39:52 AM Central Standard Time, Brad_Herndon@morningstar-group.com writes: << For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a topcase and had a few questions: >> Brad- I have had the 50 liter box on my bike for around 150,000 miles and I have nothing but praise for it. I leave it on all the time while riding. I especially like it when I am on the road (and that's a lot) because when I go into a motel or whatever I can just take the box in with me like a suitcase and I really like that. I have had many people ask me more questions about where to get a Givi for their bike than I have any other. I am a big fan. You will not be disappointed. Dave Little -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Brad Herndon'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Givi Topcase Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:37:31 -0500 Brad, Be sure to get the new style mounting hardware. The side pieces are curved and reinforced (guess why) and the rack plate has a built-in connector for the E460 with integrated brake light. Roger -----Original Message----- From: Brad Herndon [SMTP:Brad_Herndon@morningstar-group.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 08:39 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Givi Topcase Hello, listers, For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a topcase and had a few questions: With the installed case, do any of you notice a difference in handling, aerodynamics, etc.? I was just curious. From reading the archives, my impression is that the quality is top notch, I just didn't see any comments regarding if it affected handling, center of gravity and those sorts of things. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses. Brad Herndon, 98'PC800 Mesquite,TX -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id A53E1B6C00D2; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:26:06 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:27:13 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: jgoula CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re:PC800 Handlebar Risers I have the stock seat with a sheepskin cover. I have found it very comfortable for the last 87,000 miles, and I'm not about to 'fix something that ain't broke', but thank you very much for the advice and information. Richard Hardy jgoula wrote: > > A couple of points to ponder: > > Tosh Konya wrote: > > I think its easier to "sculpt-out" the seat which will do two things: 1) > > increase bun contact area for more comfort and 2) lower the seat which ... > If you have a stock windshield, lowering the seat may get you closer to the > "quiet zone." The reach to the bars doesn't bother me even though my sleeve > length is also 32". Fitting taller bars removes weight from the front end > so will adversely effect how nicely the PC turns. > > If you lower the seat it _will_ have the same effect as raising the bars, > affecting the amount of weight you put on them and thus the front end. This > might be slighty countered by the fact that you are lowering the combined CG. > Also, remember that when you lower the seat you reduce the amount of legroom > available, not generous to begin with on the PC. On long trips this becomes a > problem even for my 30" (pants) inseam. If you have highway pegs this might not > be a problem. Food for thought. > > -- > Juan > Fairbanks, Alaska > Lat.: 64.847°N, Long.: 147.717°W > --------------------------------------------------------- > School of Fisheries and Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > (907)474-5520 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (SMTPD32-4.07) id A5346570386; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:25:56 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:27:03 -0800 From: Richard Hardy To: AaronJ007@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Kisan Subject: Re: PC800: Kisan Modulator Works!!! I just installed Kisan's brake light flasher, which I had a problem (or perhaps I should say, I THOUGHT I had a problem with, and I too found Andy anxious to solve my problem. It was almost as if I was the only customer he had and the most important thing he had to do. Richard Hardy AaronJ007@aol.com wrote: > > Just received the newly revamped headlight modulator from Andy at Kisan, and > it works without a hitch! No more modulating in the dark. Granted I've only > run it a short while, but barring any changes, I believe that the folks at > Kisan have solved the problem with this new filter. > > My sincere thanks to Andy and all the folks at Kisan for their persistance at > tackling this thing head on, and sticking with it until the problem was fixed. > I'm sure that the number of Pacific Coast owners of their product is > relatively small, and this kind of dedication to customer satisfaction is a > rare gem indeed! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:38:05 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Bike Week plans To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List To whom it may concern: My plans for Daytona Beach "Bike Week" have changed. I will be staying at= the Luck's Way Inn opposite the Day's Inn at Titusville (Exit 79) from Thursday through Saturday nights. I will be stopping Thursday at Daytona Beach to attend the HRCA dinner with the Honda race team, then proceeding= down to the motel. I will be working the HSTA booth in the vendor area as= needed and attending the HSTA dinner Saturday evening.I will be leaving Daytona Beach Sunday after the 200-miler and heading north to Brunswick, Georgia where I have a reservation for Sunday night at the Knight's Inn. = I look forward to seeing many of my friends while there. Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:49:10 -0500 From: dana sawyer Subject: PC800: Lynn is home! To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List I brought Lynn home earlier this afternoon. The doctor says that it will probably take about two months for her to regain her strength. We almost lost her this past weekend, and are so thankful that things worked out so well for us. Who said that miracles don't happen? Life is great and God is good! Dana and Laura (Lynn's helpmates) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: annreid@juno.com by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DYVDKHZC; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:55:17 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scpcrc@listbot.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:07:14 -0700 Subject: PC800: WONG WING WEPAIR FINALLY found some Elmer's (Borden Co.) STIXALL at Staples Office Splys. Local hdwr. stores, auto parts, WalMarts, K-Marts, blah blah blah were out. Must be good schtuff, huh?! So, I bot two.....just in case. Biker budd put Ghost on centerstand Mon. while I was at work so I could change my oil before work this week. Then Tue. night (while I was at work) he changed my oil (in the Ghost -- don't go THERE!). I love surprises like that. He's been promising to help me put the wing on since its arrival last whatever. We've set an INdefinite date of the weekend of Jan. 23rd or 30th. To be continued... [Harrison Beware: I'm still coveting your phone numbers for operator assistance.] Philips has been very responsive to my emails and he genuinely cares. How novel! Glad I bot the wing from him. Ann '89 PC-AZ Wingless Ghost Wed. 1.13.98 13:00 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: Subject: Re: PC800: PC 2000 ? Sorry GPCPCTP2000 !!! Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:47:59 +0100 Thanks for the halp , all ! I found some info on the list server and have written a E-mail to Tim , = timmacy@juno.com for more info.=20 Arvid -----Original Message----- From: Arvid L=F8vik To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: 13. januar 1999 14:34 Subject: PC800: PC 2000 ? =20 =20 I have searched the the list server for info on this and need to be = updated. Anyone?? =20 Arvid =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------ DY> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ramin@tibco.com (Ramin Keyvan) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:46:42 -0800 "PC800: Lynn is home!" (Jan 13, 3:49pm) To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , dana sawyer Subject: Re: PC800: Lynn is home! Cc: pastry@leland.stanford.edu YIPPEEEE!! Now you've got the next two months or so to make sure she does everything necessary to get back to 100% again :-). There are lots of roads to ride out there with her name on them! Thanks for the happy news! Ramin and Erin On Jan 13, 3:49pm, dana sawyer wrote: > Subject: PC800: Lynn is home! > > [ text/plain > Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] : I brought Lynn home earlier this afternoon. > > The doctor says that it will probably take about two months for her to > regain her strength. > >-- End of excerpt from dana sawyer -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "Prince, Roger" , "'Brad Herndon'" , Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Topcase Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:11:13 -0500 I purchased my PC800 in March of last year. It's a 1997 model, purchased new. In August of last year after putting a Givi Trunk on it (E460) black in color, I took the bike for a spin on the Blue Ridge Parkway, starting from Front Royal Va, and drove back to Florida. The trunk was packed with jeans, socks, toiletries, shirts, and a pair of shoes. The trunk on the bike was left empty to bring back any and all mementos that would fit in it. It was great checking in at the hotel, simply unlock it from the plate and walk into the hotel, while my buddies untied their bungee cords. It truly was a suitcase, starting back on the road the next day, simply pop it on and take off. I did not feel uncomfortable at all on the mountain curves with it at all. The additional weight I'm sure was there, but it did not feel any different to me. The bike handeled great, and really I didn't notice a problem with it. Coming home I spent about 2hrs on 1-75, reaching speeds of 80mph, and it handeled like a charm. The light on the back of the trunk, makes the bike look huge at night, when it really counts. I would recommend this case to any PC owner looking for a top case. By the way I might add, coming home with both trunks loaded, you could not have asked for a better handeling machine. Anthony -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Prince, Roger To: 'Brad Herndon' ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: RE: PC800: Givi Topcase >Brad, > >Be sure to get the new style mounting hardware. The side pieces are curved and reinforced (guess why) and the rack plate has a built-in connector for the E460 with integrated brake light. > >Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Herndon [SMTP:Brad_Herndon@morningstar-group.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 08:39 > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Givi Topcase > > > Hello, listers, > For the PCer's with Givi Topcases: I am thinking about installing a > topcase and had a few questions: With the installed case, do any of you > notice a difference in handling, aerodynamics, etc.? I was just curious. > From reading the archives, my impression is that the quality is top notch, > I just didn't see any comments regarding if it affected handling, center of > gravity and those sorts of things. > Any feedback would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance for your responses. > Brad Herndon, 98'PC800 > Mesquite,TX > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Broeking's" To: "dana sawyer" , "HondaPacificCoastOwners" Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Week plans Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:24:19 -0500 I'll be down there also. I will look for you! Bob -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: dana sawyer To: HondaPacificCoastOwners ; HSTA Postings to List Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 3:41 PM Subject: PC800: Bike Week plans To whom it may concern: My plans for Daytona Beach "Bike Week" have changed. I will be staying at the Luck's Way Inn opposite the Day's Inn at Titusville (Exit 79) from Thursday through Saturday nights. I will be stopping Thursday at Daytona Beach to attend the HRCA dinner with the Honda race team, then proceeding down to the motel. I will be working the HSTA booth in the vendor area as needed and attending the HSTA dinner Saturday evening.I will be leaving Daytona Beach Sunday after the 200-miler and heading north to Brunswick, Georgia where I have a reservation for Sunday night at the Knight's Inn. I look forward to seeing many of my friends while there. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: handlebar risers Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:02:04 -0500 My local dealership said they could bend the bars back for me. I said = ,show me. The mechanic put the bar at full right lock, got on the left = side of the bike and pulled.The bar bent in an inch or so and he = repeated it on the other side.I even had him go back and forth and bring = them back another 1/2 inch or so. That, and tipping the bars back in the = clamp, gives my short arms a comfortable reach.Its gutsy, but it works. Greg Wells = =20 bars back for me. I said ,show me. The mechanic put the bar at full = right lock,=20 got on the left side of the bike and pulled.The bar bent in an inch or = so and he=20 repeated it on the other side.I even had him go back and forth and bring = them=20 back another 1/2 inch or so. That, and tipping the bars back in the = clamp, gives=20 my short arms a comfortable reach.Its gutsy, but it works.
 
 
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Peter_N1@verifone.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: handlebar risers Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:32:54 -0800 This procedure was performed with the handlebar covers removed, I = presume. Do the covers go back on afterwards? Peter Noeth || KE6ZJA || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/ 9.6k and loving = every minuite! > ---------- > From: Dawn Wells[SMTP:dwells@massed.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 5:02 PM > To: pc800 > Subject: PC800: handlebar risers >=20 > My local dealership said they could bend the bars back for me. I said = ,show > me. The mechanic put the bar at full right lock, got on the left side = of the > bike and pulled.The bar bent in an inch or so and he repeated it on = the other > side.I even had him go back and forth and bring them back another 1/2 = inch or > so. That, and tipping the bars back in the clamp, gives my short arms = a > comfortable reach.Its gutsy, but it works. > =A0 > =A0 > =A0 > Greg Wells > = =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 > = =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 >=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Schibuola" To: "PC800 List pc800@hpc. uh. edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Progressive Insurance - good and bad Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:58:16 -0800 Importance: Normal Good news for Lee. However, I recently received some bad news from Progressive - my premium went up from $235 to $298. When I called, the agent said it was likely due to a "periodic adjustment" based on losses/payouts in California. I said a 35% "adjustment?" She said "it happens." Does this sound reasonable, and have other California riders experienced similar? Steve Schibuola Brea, CA 89 PC800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Lee A. Morris > Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 2:00 PM > To: HSTA; PC Listers > Subject: PC800: Insurance woes and remedy > > > Ladies & Gents: > > Just thought I'd pass along a little bad news/good news story to > the lists. > > Bad News: I received my notice today for a 1 year renewal with National > General Insurance Co. (St. Louis, MO) and my policy went from > $233 to $372. > I couldn't believe it since we are talking about a PC800 driven by a > soon-to-be 60 yr old man with an excellent driving record. I called up > National General and was told that the increases--especially the collision > (which raised 122%)--were based upon loss of the touring discount. The > company discount was changed to the bike being a minimum of 975CC instead > of the previous years of 450CC. Of course it didn't matter that Honda > classifies the PC as a touring bike for their warranty. I hung up in > disgust. > > Good News: I checked out the Progressive.com site and got an online quote > which was great. However, once I called their 800 number to order the > policy, I was quoted an even better figure of $166 for the 12 month policy > with the same coverage I had at National General. I'm sure glad National > General raised their rates!!! > > I won't take up any more bandwidth concerning this, but if anyone > wants more > info or wants the extension number of a very helpful lady at Progressive, > E-mail me privately and I'll reply ASAP. > > Regards, > > Lee > Gravois Mills, MO > '97 PC800 - AMA/HSTA/HRCA > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: handlebar risers Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:06:33 -0500 No, Peter, the covers were left in place. Greg Wells -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:34:38 -0500 From: Richard Stafford To: dana sawyer CC: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Subject: Re: PC800: Lynn is home! dana sawyer wrote: > > I brought Lynn home earlier this afternoon. > > The doctor says that it will probably take about two months for her to > regain her strength. > > We almost lost her this past weekend, and are so thankful that things > worked out so well for us. > > Who said that miracles don't happen? > > Life is great and God is good! > > Dana and Laura (Lynn's helpmates) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Welcome home Lynn!!!!!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: handlebar risers Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:37:06 -0500 When Gary [the mechanic] bent the bars, he stood on the left, took hold = of the throttle grip, and just gave a good heave. Gary is maybe 5-11, = 180 lbs.- certainly not huge.There were several of us there holding on = to the bike in case it started to go down.It was easier to do than you = would think.The mechanics said they had bent bars back after minor = accidents for other customers, and thats why it occured to them to try = this for me.The handlbar has to be against the stop as you pull. Greg Wells [comfortablly cruisin'] on my pc -not today however, we have = 12" on snow on the ground since 6 this morn. and still coming down! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" To: Subject: PC800: The Ultimate COUNTER for PC owners homepages Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:27:53 +0100 http://www.rrr.de/rrr-counter/ I found this counter, the size of a PC-tachometer, and liked it very = much. Installed quite simply on my site. If You have problems with reading german, let me know and I can send You = the details. Arvid ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. 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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:59:52 +0000 From: Roger Pattee To: Arvid =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik?= , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Riding gear..need a good jacket (non-leather) Folks, Can anyone advise what the best non leather jacket/coat out there is for riding? Am getting pretty confused with the abundance of choices. I have a couple of leather riding jackets, but would like one that has some pockets, etc. Have seen quite a few in the cataloges..and would like some input. Thanks. -- Roger A. Pattee <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* Betrayed by the land that bore us, Forsaken by the ones we hold dear. The good have all gone before us, As only the evil are here. So stand to your glasses steady, The world is a world full of lies. Here's to those who have gone before us, And, here's to the next man that dies. <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><* http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:57:13 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Riding gear..need a good jacket (non-leather) At 8:59 PM +0000 1/14/99, Roger Pattee wrote: >Folks, > >Can anyone advise what the best non leather jacket/coat out there is for >riding? > Well....I guess it's been a few months since this can of worms was openned up. There are alot of excellent choices out there, and the largest difference between each one will be personal tastes and preferences. The following is my personal opinion for my favourites based on my definition of value. I shopped around extensively before settling on what I have. I have the Aerostich Darien jacket. It's Goretex, and comes with a Polartec fleece reversible liner. I also have the optional spine protector. I have been extremely happy with the jacket in the last 12,000 miles of riding. It is pretty much waterproof. I only once had water get through to me under the layers, and it turns out that I had not completely closed the vent zipper under the arm. Aerostich also has an optional heated liner which will help cold weather riding significantly. These jackets are not cheap, but they have quite a few testimonials from people who have 'tested' them unexpectedly, and they are well respected. I personally think that you can't be cheap when it comes to riding gear. I don't want to slide down the I-95 one day on my back, feeling the skin start to shred, and saying to myself "Ouch..that really hurts...but I did save $100 when I bought it" . I paid alot for this jacket ($487 plus shipping) but I have worn it in rain and snow, and on 100 degree days. Sure it's hot...but not as hot as leather, and not so hot that I went without it. (Remember, it doesn't protect you as well if it is bungee strapped to the seat) The other brand I like is the Gerbing Ultimate Jacket. Tim Davies on this list has their suit and is quite happy. Their specialty is electric clothing. You can get a jacket, pants, gloves and socks that are all wired up. I just ordered their heated riding pants, extra thin jacket liner, and socks. They were at the motorcycle show in Toronto a few weeks ago, and they had one heck of a show special price. They were accepting Canadian dollars at par. The pants are regularly $299 US, and will cost me $200US if you figure out the exchange. I couldn't resist them at that price, and the beauty of Gerbing is that each jacket and pant is custom made for you. You take a whole bunch of measurements and send them with your order, and they tailor make the jacket and pants for you. If money is no object, the BMW Kalahari suit is pretty nice. There are also great jackets from Fieldsheer (sp?), Hein Gericke, Patriot, Motosport, Joe Rocket, Technic, etc. Each of these has their strong points and weak points. How much of an issue this is will depend on your own requirements. Good luck with your decision. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:05:37 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Riding gear..need a good jacket (non-leather) To: rpattee@g-net.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider) I bought the Gerbing's (http://www.gerbing.com) Ultimate 2 piece heated riding gear this past Fall. I tried 3 other jackets (put sevral hundred miles on each) and sent them back before settling on Gerbing's. I got the lighter weight 200 denier nylon, but they also have it in the 500 denier. The heated lining in the jacket and pants is removable. I think it will be a nice cool jacket for the summer and I know it will be warm when I need it. After an hour and a half ride in 36 degree F temperatures I was still nice and warm. The thermostat was not even turned up full! It's not cheap, but it is custom made to your measurements and you can even choose your own color combinations. I matched mine to my red '98 Pacific Coast. I had vent zippers installed where I wanted them (Things I learned from the jackets I returned) at no extra cost. Let me know if you want any more information. I don't know where you are located, but if you are on the East Coast you can contact Mike Vlahos (mvlahos@aol.com) also if you have questions. He sold me mine (quite a good story behind that) and lives in Maryland. There are other sales reps around also so please don't pick his brain too much then buy from someone else if you decide on Gerbing's. Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98 Seneca Falls, New York 13148 AMA #688662 HSTA #8387 "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" rpattee@g-net.net writes: >Folks, >Can anyone advise what the best non leather jacket/coat out there >is for >riding? >Am getting pretty confused with the abundance of choices. >I have a couple of leather riding jackets, but would like one that >has >some >pockets, etc. Have seen quite a few in the cataloges..and would >like >some input. > >Thanks. >-- >Roger A. Pattee -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:18:31 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: pc 800 list , HSTA List Subject: PC800: Floridans Look out here I come.... Ok just a quick note, after all this nasty weather, I need a break, My roomie an I both agreed let's go... so Feb 6 I'll head to Ft Myers, FLA. For a couple of weeks r/r, I am taking my German Shep, Red/White Dakota Pick up and my Red PC800, I need the PC800 so I can get around while the Roomie takes the truck to see his dad.... I here LEESBURG HONDA has some new ST1100's comming in. Now all I need is to get a new rear tire on.... So if in a couple weeks you see a RED PC with Ohio Plates CATV2 that be me!!! Hollar and I'll stop for a coffee with ya! -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:27:06 -0500 From: Joe Beresford To: rpattee@g-net.net CC: "Arvid =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=F8vik"?= , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Riding gear..need a good jacket (non-leather) what I wanna know is, in the middle second picture on the following page: http://members.tripod.com/~Motordawg/index-2.html is that the latest attire for theft pervention or are you sure you are in Fla? an not L.A.??? or is Miami that bad........... I usually keep a sw mod 38-9mm in the tank bag but thats a power option I din't know HONDA offered... grin ==Life is short---Go ride!== Joe Beresford aka:Fireman Joe of CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! HomePage; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy Bike Page; http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm Email to my pager put your phone number in first line and I'll call ya: 5137720941.70006118@pagenet.net (((Email address may have been altered to slow spam))) ((( take out the no. before one.net before replyin ))) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57782U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:03:31 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:51:32 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: No, It's not a BMW... It happened again today...The question I've heard more than once..." Is that a BMW?"...I'll take it as a complement seeing how it cost me one forth a BMW would. Not to mention the cost of the up-keep. Maybe I should stick a BMW emblem on the gas tank and really have them guessing...: ) Enjoy the weather while it last! James Lubbock, Tx. '90 P'mer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57162U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:19:42 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David A. Ah Sing" To: "PC 800 Web List" Subject: PC800: ...Pop Goes the Mirror Housing... Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:12:13 -0800 Hey List, Guess what, not all Mirror housings are created equally... This = evening while backing out of my drive for an early evening ride, I = dropped my poor sweet transportation after slipping on an oil spot. The = left mirror housing disintegrated along with the mirror. A tab on the = Windscreen Garnish broke off also so that now the Garnish sticks up an = extra 3/4" in the air. The left forward crash bar cover worked as = advertised. So now I suppose it is time to access my List Mentors/Sages = for part numbers. Then, I can send my order ahead to Milpitas. It all = happened so fast.=20 So Emile, Bob, Tosh, Peter, Russ, James, Ann.....HELPPPPPPPPPPPPP = !!!!! Respectfully, David A. Ah Sing 89 Pearl Lady =20 Milpitas. It all happened so fast. 
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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:22:43 -0500 To: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) From: Barry Shaffer Subject: Re: PC800: No, It's not a BMW... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dear Listers: I once had a guy with with a ratty Yamaha ask me if my '89 was one of those Mercedes motorcyles! I said no this is a Honda but it looks like one! My bike is garaged and isn't braving the 4 ft. of snow we have now. Is anyone planning to go to the Cleveland Motorcycle Show at the end of the month? I live in NY State but I'm much closer to Cleveland than NYC. Keep riding if you can, Barry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:06:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:06:17 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: No, It's not a BMW... James writes: << Maybe I should stick a BMW emblem on the gas tank and really have them guessing...: ) >> I think i've mentioned this before, but I saw an ST1100 parked amongst a covey of BMWs at Daytona one year. The owner had replaced all the Honda markings with BMW medalians, including a little one on the oil cap. Sure had a lot of folks guessing. :) J. T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:17:42 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Ride report Hey there everyone !!!!! The last time I checked there must must have been about 220 people on this list. Don't any of you who live in the south have any nice ride reports for those of us who are getting fed up with the snow? We are getting another 14" of snow in the next 24 hours. We've had a few feet already in the last month. The only two-wheeling I get to do is with a snow blower ! So come on.....let's hear a ride report that makes me envious! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Doug Allis" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: BMW vs Honda Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:13:09 PST OK, I'd like to know... Why on earth would anyone WANT to have their perfectly good-looking and better made Honda confused with an ugly BMW? Without a doubt BMW is the only the second-most over ranked and over priced motorcycle made today. (We all know which motorcylce is the MOST overranked/priced!) :) :) Doug Allis DHAllis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:47:23 -0400 To: "Doug Allis" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: BMW vs Honda At 8:13 AM -0800 1/15/99, Doug Allis wrote: >OK, I'd like to know... Why on earth would anyone WANT to have their >perfectly good-looking and better made Honda confused with an ugly BMW? Because the world we live in is 90% based on perception. If you tell someone who doesn't know any better that your car is a BMW, odds are they will be impressed. If you drive a Honda, they don't flinch. It doesn't matter that you have a new Accord EX-V6 fully loaded or if it's a 1978 BMW318 with rust, and a second gear that doesn't work.....People go