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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Newbie subscriber
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:43:47 +0200 

Hi people, I'm a proud new owner of a PC800 (aren't we all!), and I would
like to know if anyone of you know about PC800 owners in South Africa (I
doubt it, but anyway... :) ). I think I own one of about three in the
country, and it would be nice to know if they're still around...

Some info on myself:

Name:
Lohan Johnson

Age: 
20

Address: 
I live in Pretoria, South Africa and work in Johannesburg (about 40km's
apart).

Bike: 
'97 Silver PC800 (I'm not sure about the '97 part though, but as far as I
know the silver ones are '97's, no?). Got it Sunday. 53 000 km's on the
clock.

Mods: 
None (yet!). Clock and temperature gauge are first though. And I have to fix
a mirror.

Oh, and a question -- what is the optimal idling revs (in your opinion?). I
discovered the little calibrating thingie next to the boot lever and I can't
decide where I want my bike to idle...

Thanks for your time, its lonely driving such a cool bike by myself in deep
dark Africa :)
Lohan

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From: "Ronald Grant" <ultspnch@powerup.com.au>
Subject: PC800: Sasi wood trim?
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 98 21:09:14 PST

Can the person who bought and installed this trim please email me?

I have some samples sent from Florida and have some questions.

Thanks

Ron Grant 
Ultimate Spinach
Redland Bay  Qld.
Australia 4165
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:53:33 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Betty Lise Anderson <anderson@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Fwd: PC800: November Road Trip

Jim Randall said:

>Based on the Weather Channel it would appear that pretty much all of North
>America except the southeast had a lousy Thanksgiving weather-wise.

Jim! Check your dosage! We had an unbelievable weekend here in central
Ohio! Outstanding! Warm! beautiful! Tropical breezes! Parrots flew by!
Seriously, it was a spectacular weekend and some idiot made me put my bike
up TWO WEEKS ago because it was cold then. That particular idiot was
kicking himself all weekend long.

Betty Lise Anderson
'90 PC in a garage somewhere argh argh argh
Columbus, Ohio


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "Jeff Darr" <jad@apk.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Autolean ?
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:08:59 +0100

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Jeff Darr <jad@apk.net>
Onderwerp: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

>My question is in regard to this so-called "auto-lean" feature, the back
>and forth shifting I feel when I go faster than 50 mph.
>I love my bike, but I can't stand this constant "cross-wind" type feel
>to it. Is there anything to correct this?
>Perhaps make the front end look more like a 97?

Jeff,
if you say back and forth shifting it doesn't sound like
it has anything to do with crosswind riding.
Do you mean left and right ? Is it constant ?
The autolean debate was about how the PC behaves
in a crosswind, it sometimes seems to lean itself into
the wind, with or without the front fender.
Your problem sounds different. Before I go rambling on about
other hypothetical problems maybe you could give us some details.
Are you being pulled back and forth to your windshield ? Do you have
a large windshield ? Is it on windless days also (no pun intended) ?

If you want to subscribe to the list it's pretty easy. Just send message
to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu and type : '  subscribe  pc800 '  in the body of
the message, like where I'm typing now. Unsubscribing is done
the same but than with ' unsubscribe pc800 ' , it's that easy.
Ride safe,

Emile
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:16:46 -0600
To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com
From: Lee Morris <lamorris@lakeozarks.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?
Cc: PC800 Listers <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

At 07:47 PM 11/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I have had a Rifle on my PC for a while now, but have been too worried about
>how to clean it, as it is in perfect condition (no scratches).
>
>What do you all recommend for cleaning?  Any cleaners (it has sever bug
>splats)?  What sort of a cloth?  Anyone try news paper?
>
>
>Thanks 
>
>JPatton
>89PC
>17k
>
JP:

For many years, I have used Pledge furniture polish for the windshield on
GoldWings, Shadows, and the PC.  One manufacturer (Rifle???) recommends
Pledge. I just spray it on and let it set a bit to soften the bugs and then
wipe down with an old undershirt--turn the rag and polish.  Works great!

One down side to Pledge, though, is that bees, hornets, etc...have been
drawn to the lemon fragrance (according to MCN).  I've never had that problem.

Another product:  Cycle Care 3 is fine for polishing the bike and also doing
the windshield.  Believe it will sheet the water off the screen better than
Pledge.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Lee
'97 PC800
AMA HSTA HRCA


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From: Imapcrider@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:35:09 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:35:09 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Closing the gap

Hi group!
Been on the road trying to take advantage of this incredible weather we have
been having in the last few weeks. As most of you know, I spent most of my
free time riding around on my beloved PC since retiring a couple of years ago,
but most of it has been solo. Well, met up with a lady who happens to own a
BMW K75 who seems to be on a quest the same as mine; that is to ride every
inch of road available in the U.S. and some of Canada. She says that she has
met up with many PC riders in the last two years. Her name is Rita Dawes, and
says "hi" to any out there that may remember her. Her bike is her love as mine
is to me. I have as of this morning 168,776 miles on my bike on it's way to
infinity. I know that something is going to break someday, but sure aint no
indication of anything impending doom right now!
I am looking forward to the 200K mark, as I have never put that many miles on
a machine before, and I actually do not know of anyone who has put that many
miles on a PC 800 either. Looks like it should be in the spring of '99. I'll
keep you all posted. 

Happy riding to you all.

Dave Little
'94 PC 800
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Elephant droppings
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:37:33 +0100

>Hi people, I'm a proud new owner of a PC800 (aren't we all!), and I would
>like to know if anyone of you know about PC800 owners in South Africa (I
>doubt it, but anyway... :) ). I think I own one of about three in the
>country, and it would be nice to know if they're still around...
>Lohan Johnson
>Age: 
>20
>
Goeiedag Lohan ! Welkom op de list. Gelukkig is het Afrikaans nie moeilijk
nie voor een Hollander, of kan ik beter doorgaan in het Engels ?
(Dutch/African welcom for you Yankees : ))
Cool to have another young member around on the list. With the current rules
in Holland I wouldn't even be able to ride my PC at age 20 (I'm 24).

>I live in Pretoria, South Africa and work in Johannesburg (about 40km's
>apart).
>
I've visited SA a few years ago. It's beautifull. Riding weather all year.
I've been dreaming about riding thru SA on a motorcycle, but I guess your
not allowed into the parcs with a MC, which is understandable and a petty.
I went with my parents from Durban along the coast up north thru several
parcs and Swaziland to Kruger Parc (where else ?) and from there on
to Johannesburg where we dropped of the camper and flew back to Holland.
My parents visited the cape region a few months back, I really want to go
back again also sometime, but I wanna ride thru it the next time.

>Bike: 
>'97 Silver PC800 (I'm not sure about the '97 part though, but as far as I
>know the silver ones are '97's, no?). Got it Sunday. 53 000 km's on the
>clock.
>
Silver. Aha. The stock models where white, red and black. There were some
foreign models made for France and Austria I believe (blue and yellow) and
I did see a picture of a silver one somewhere, but I suggest you browse thru
one of the PC sites for details. There are about 4 PC sites (US, Californian,
Dutch and European sites), links are on the site you visited for this list or
on my own site ( http://fly.to/emile ), I have a lot of homepages linked as well.
>
>Oh, and a question -- what is the optimal idling revs (in your opinion?). I
>discovered the little calibrating thingie next to the boot lever and I can't
>decide where I want my bike to idle...
>
According to my manual it's 1200 +/- 100 RPM in neutral when the engine
has a normal operating temperature (10 minutes stop and go riding should
put it there, says here).

>Thanks for your time, its lonely driving such a cool bike by myself in deep
>dark Africa :)
>Lohan

Oh, do I sympathise...... It's fun here riding around with temperatures hovering
around freezing, being the only motorcycle on the road. At least I don't have
to watch out for those Elephant droppings : ))....
Poor guy : )

Is het waar dat een slipje in het Afrikaans een 'ikziejepoezienetnie' is ? : ))
(not translatable, not suited for this list either....  : ))
Tot ziens,
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[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort

"If the problem can be solved there is no use worrying about it.
If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."

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From: "Sattin, Harvey" <h.sattin@neccsd.com>
To: "'X PC 800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:19:39 -0500 

Lee,
Not only do bees like Pledge, I find that after cleaning my PC with the
Honda spray cleaner, the bees seem to be attracted to it.  

~Harvey Sattin
Brookline, MA
98 PC800W "Rhonda"


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:24:16 -0400
To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?

Cleaning plastic is a finicky process.  Any dirt on your cleaning rag will
scratch it.

At a gas station, I use a clean rag from my trunk and the cleanest part of
the gas station's squeegee bucket water I can find.

At home, I soak and wash the windshield with clean rags, chamois dry with a
clean chamois, and polish with a clean damp rag and stuff called Novus
Plastic Polish No. 2 which removes invisible scratches and puts that high
sheen back on that new plexiglass has.  It won't take out visible
scratches.

I've been using it for years -- web page

        http://www.novus123.com/

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Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:46:15 -0400
To: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie subscriber
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Welcome to the PC800 list Lohan, from Ottawa, Canada !

>Bike:
>'97 Silver PC800 (I'm not sure about the '97 part though, but as far as I
>know the silver ones are '97's, no?). Got it Sunday. 53 000 km's on the
>clock.
>

I'm not sure about the colors for your bike. In North America the 97's were
bright red on top , with a flat black on the bottom half.  Does your PC800
have an enclosed front fender, or are the wheel and brakes exposed?  Do you
have any pictures of your bike that you can email or post somewhere?
Silver ones never existed in North America, and we would all love to see
it.  I have seen a picture of a PC800 from Singapore that was silver on top
and dark silver on the bottom.  Is that the colour combo for yours, or is
it all one color?

As for the model year, if you start at the front right fork leg, and look
up under and behind the headlight at the frame where the forks meet the
bike, there should be a sticker showing the serial number, date of
manufacturer, and model year.  We recently had a pretty detailed discussion
on this list about serial numbers, and we have been tracking them trying to
determine the total number fo PC800's ever  built.   The serial number
reveals alot about the bike, including the model year, where it was built,
etc.   There is a part of the number that identifies the bike as a US
model, California model, or Canada model.  I am curious to know the serial
number of yours to see what the country designation is in the number.

>Mods:
>None (yet!). Clock and temperature gauge are first though. And I have to fix
>a mirror.

Do you mean an outside temperature gauge, or an engine temperature gauge?
The North American models have an engine temperature gauge on them already.


>Oh, and a question -- what is the optimal idling revs (in your opinion?). I
>discovered the little calibrating thingie next to the boot lever and I can't
>decide where I want my bike to idle...
>


The Honda Shop Manual for the PC800 recommends that the idle speed be set
when the engine is warm, and set to 1200rpm,  plus or minus 100 rpm.  I
have mine set a touch lower, at about 1000 rpm. It seems to run fine at
that speed.


>Thanks for your time, its lonely driving such a cool bike by myself in deep
>dark Africa :)
>Lohan


Welcome once again to the list.  You can find out all sorts of great things
here about your bike, and you can look at the web page (address at end of
message) to search through the archives if you are trying to find out
something specific.

Ride safe....

fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:37:19 -0900
From: jgoula <jgoula@ims.uaf.edu>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: self flagellation

Betty Lise Anderson wrote:
>... That particular idiot was kicking himself all weekend long.

And I bet you were probably helping him, weren't you? :-)
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To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
cc: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle? 
   of "Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:24:16 -0400." <v02140b02b289cec3e59a@[129.173.2.98]> 
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:39:15 -0600

Daniel MacKay writes:
> At home, I soak and wash the windshield with clean rags, chamois dry with a
> clean chamois, and polish with a clean damp rag and stuff called Novus
> Plastic Polish No. 2 which removes invisible scratches and puts that high
> sheen back on that new plexiglass has.  It won't take out visible
> scratches.

I don't routinely use #2 as it is an abrasive. It will take out the
smallest of visible scratches. Depends upon how much rubbing you do, and
if you can rub random patterns. Once Upon A Time I converted a really
bad face shield into something I don't mind using.

Novus Plastic Polish #1 is the cleaner, shiner, protector, antifog,
antistatic stuff. While #2 is the fine abrasive polish for scratch
removal.

'98 PC800W

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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: unsolicited compliment
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:50:55 -0500

While tooling up I75 on the bike last weekend (I HATE interstates but =
unfortunately I was running out of daylight!), a black Mustang  =
convertable pulled up alongside me and just sort of "hung" there in my =
periphial vision. When I glanced over, I saw two attractive young women =
"checkin out" the PC. After a few moments, the passenger clearly mouthed =
the word, "pretty" and gave me the thumbs up sign before they sped away. =
As someone said in a previous post, women love these things!

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net

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From: "Roger Bowen" <rbowen@budget.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: unsolicited compliment
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:58:09 -0800

>While tooling up I75 on the bike last weekend (I HATE interstates but
unfortunately I was running out of daylight!), a black Mustang  convertable
pulled up alongside me and just sort of "hung" there in my periphial vision.
When I glanced over, I saw two attractive young women "checkin out" the PC.
After a few moments, the passenger clearly mouthed the word, "pretty" and
gave me the thumbs up sign before they sped away. As someone said in a
previous post, women love these things!
>
>Jim Randall

Do you mean to tell us you let them get away with that? <ggg>

Roger


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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 01:04:42 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Closing the gap

Hi Dave,

Imapcrider@aol.com wrote:

>  I have as of this morning 168,776 miles on my bike on it's way to
> infinity. I know that something is going to break someday, but sure aint no
> indication of anything impending doom right now!
> I am looking forward to the 200K mark, as I have never put that many miles on
> a machine before, and I actually do not know of anyone who has put that many
> miles on a PC 800 either. Looks like it should be in the spring of '99.

Ride, Dave, ride!!!  At this rate it will be early spring.  Seems like about 8000
in the last month or so, isn't it?

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'94 Pacific Coast
"Black Beauty"
120,000 miles



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From: ROBJHALL@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 06:36:47 EST
To: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?

Someone told me to use a spray hose first to remove any dirt and grime on the
widshild before cleaning/polishing with any product.  The theory being if
there is any dirt or grime on the windshield, wiping will only ground it into
the plastic.

BTW do y'all relize how much bird crap scratches shields...Not when it lands
but trying to get it off! It's unbelievable!  I'm almost in favor of hunting! 

Rob
Cary, NC
89PC w/43000 and a very scratched windshield
96 PC w/ 810 and a very clean windshield
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From: "Steve Zweigart" <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>
To: <ROBJHALL@aol.com>
Cc: "Pacific Coast List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:47:55 -0500

When my shield is splattered with wildlife droppings, oozings, and
splattings, I take a full sized bath towel, get it wet (not dripping, but
really damp), fold it up, put it in the microwave for 30 seconds, then drape
it over the windshield. In about 10 minutes, the warm, damp heat has
loosened up everything, which is easily removed with regular windex, etc.
This method has been succesful on all types of bug and bird gunk.

Steve Zweigart
'97 PC 800
Maysville, Kentucky

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Date: Wednesday, 02 December 1998 06:41
Subject: Re: PC800: How do you clean your Rifle?


>Someone told me to use a spray hose first to remove any dirt and grime on
the
>widshild before cleaning/polishing with any product.  The theory being if
>there is any dirt or grime on the windshield, wiping will only ground it
into
>the plastic.
>
>BTW do y'all relize how much bird crap scratches shields...Not when it
lands
>but trying to get it off! It's unbelievable!  I'm almost in favor of
hunting!
>
>Rob
>Cary, NC
>89PC w/43000 and a very scratched windshield
>96 PC w/ 810 and a very clean windshield
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From: "Steve Zweigart" <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>
To: "Pacific Coast List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Kissan
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:55:20 -0500

I've been very sporadic about reviewing this list for the last three weeks
or so, as I've been reconfiguring my computer system.  I've got messages
from those three weeks spread out over three different machines, and need to
make a concerted effort to get them all read so that I'm completely caught
up.

Here's my question, if the answer isn't hovering around on one of those
other machines:

Several weeks back, there was much activity about Kissan modulators. I've
currently got two of them laying on my desk (one that I purchased...doesn't
work...a "new improved model that they sent me grattis...doesn't work), and
last that I heard, they were "working" on the problem.  The fact that I
haven't heard anything from Kissan for the past several weeks despite my
requests for information leads me to believe that they probably have not
found a solution for the PC modulator problem,  and have probably given up.
Any news from anyone regarding Kissan's success or lack thereof in getting
their modulator to work on the PC?

I thought about this the other day when someone pulled out in front of me.

If Kissan's not going to work, anyone have any luck with any of the other's
on the market?

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800

P.S.  It's in the mid-60's here in KY.  Riding and loving it!!!!!

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Fw: Looking for info
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:24:55 +0100

Yo gang,
there is a fellow PCer in need of contact and help.
He apparently has no Email, but his mother has.
Any US/Canada/Minnesota/Calif users out there who
want to give him a hand, reply to lytehawk@cloudnet.com .
See below message which I got personally.
Good opportunity to show some christmas spirit, guys !!
Thx on his behalf.
Emile

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Van: Glenna Dietrich <lytehawk@cloudnet.com>
Aan: emile@cybercomm.nl <emile@cybercomm.nl>
Datum: woensdag 2 december 1998 4:49
Onderwerp: Looking for info


>Hi 
>I'm contacting you on behalf of my son who bought a 1995 Honda Pacific
>Coast in a box.  (It had been in an accident and someone had taken it
>apart and was unable to reassemble)  He is considering a cross-country
>solo trip next summer from Minnesota to California.  He's looking for
>trip info, after-market parts resources and folks to chat with.  Not
>available on the internet, but if you would be interested, I could give
>you his address, or yours to him.  Appreciate a reply.  Thanks!  G
>

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:30:02 -0500
From: dana sawyer <Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com>
Subject: PC800: Merry Christmas!
To: HondaPacificCoastOwners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        HSTA Postings to List <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>

>>Subject: White Christmas Humor
>>
>>Diary of a Snow Shoveler
>>
>>December 8:  6:00 PM. It started to snow. The first snow of the season
>>and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window
>>watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven.  It looked like
>>a Grandma Moses Print.  So romantic we felt like newlyweds again.  I
>>love snow!
>>
>>December 9:  We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow
>>covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight!  Can
>>there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the
>>best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt
>>like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks.  This
>>afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and
>>closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again.  What a perfect life.=

>>
>>December 12:  The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a
>>disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely
>>have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful!  Bob says
>>we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to
>>see snow again.  l don't think that's possible.  Bob is such a nice
>>man I'm glad he's our neighbor.
>>
>>December 14:  Snow lovely snow!  8" last night. The temperature
>>dropped to  -20.  The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took
>>my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and
>>sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and
>>buried everything again. l didn't realize I would have to do quite
>>this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way.  I
>>wish I wouldn't huff and puff so.
>>
>>December 15:  20 inches forecast.  Sold my van and bought a 4x4
>>Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels.
>>Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the
>>electricity goes out. I think that's silly.  We aren't in Alaska,
>>after all.
>>
>>December 16:  Ice storm this morning. Fell on my rear on the ice in
>>the driveway putting down salt. Hurts like crazy. The wife laughed for
>>an hour, Which I think was very cruel.
>>
>>December 17:  Still way below freezing.  Roads are too icy to go
>>anywhere.  Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets
>>on to stay warm.  Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to
>>irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit
>>it to her.  I hate it when she's right.  I can't believe I'm freezing
>>to death in my own living room.
>>
>>December 20:  Electricity's back on, but had another 14" of the lousy
>>stuff last night.  More shoveling. Took all day.  Stupid snowplow came
>>by twice.  Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said
>>they're too busy playing hockey.  I think they're lying. Called the
>>only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and
>>they're out.  Might have another shipment in March.  I think they're
>>lying.  Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and
>>bill me.  I think he's lying.
>>
>>December 22: Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more
>>inches of the white junk fell today, and it's so cold it probably
>>won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go
>>out to shovel and then I had to go to the bathroom. By the time I got
>>undressed, went to the bathroom and dressed again, I was too tired to
>>shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of
>>the winter; but he says he's too busy. I think the louse is lying.
>>
>>December 23:  Only 2" of snow today.  And it warmed up to 0o. The wife
>>wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she
>>nuts!!! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she
>>did but I think she's lying.
>>
>>December 24:  6".  Snow packed so hard by snowplow, I broke the
>>shovel.  Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the
>>louse who drives that snowplow, I'll drag him through the snow by his
>>thumbs. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
>>shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and
>>throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me
>>to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was
>>busy watching for the rotten snowplow.
>>
>>December 25:  Merry Christmas.  20 more inches of the !=3D3D@x@!x!x1
>>slop tonight.  Snowed in.  The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil.
>>Man, I hate the snow!  Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a
>>donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel.  The wife says I
>>have a bad attitude.  I think she's an idiot.  If I have to watch
>>"It's a Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to kill her.
>>
>>December 26:  Still snowed in.  Why in the world did I ever move here?
>>It was all HER idea.  She's really getting on my nerves.
>>
>>December 27:  Temperature dropped to -30o  and the pipes froze.
>>
>>December 28:  Warmed up to above 50.  Still snowed in.  My wife is
>>driving me crazy!!!!!
>>
>>December 29:  10 more inches.  Bob says I have to shovel the roof or
>>it could cave in.  That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb
>>does he think I am?
>>
>>December 30:  Roof caved in.  The snow plow driver is suing me for a
>>million dollars.  The wife went home to her mother.  9" predicted.
>>
>>December 31:  Set fire to what's left of the house.  No more shoveling.=

>>
>>January 8:  I feel so good.  I just love those little white pills they
>>keep giving me.  Why am I tied to the bed?
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From: "Spain, Harrison" <spain@ugsolutions.com>
To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Fork seals
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:27:36 -0800 

I finally got around to replacing my PC800 fork seals.  The seals leaked a
bit of oil for several months before getting real bad during the ride to
Vegas.

NOTE: If the forks become pitted (little hard/black specs on the silver
pistons), the pistons "score" the seals and it is only a matter of time
before they start leaking oil.

At the end, oil was actually *splashing* around the forks and front of the
cycle (all that up and down motion on the ride to Vegas I suspect)!  I also
suspect that all the oil eventually leaked out since on the way to the shop
I hit a small bump and actually bottomed out the forks; at least I suspect
that was the case since I felt the hard jolt and *bang* associated with this
condition :-).

To reduce the chance of this happening to you, make sure to wipe down the
forks every so often.  It should be noted that I did this and they still
failed but I will defend myself further to note that the pits were there
when I bought the cycle used with about 1,500 miles on it (it now has
20,000).  Also, it spent a lot of time right by the ocean which may have
contributed to the condition.

For the curious, expect to spend about $150.  I was charged $100 + parts.
The cycle now rides like new!

Harrison Spain
Unigraphics Solutions
GTAC Systems Support
Tel: 714.952.6114
Fax: 714.952.5371
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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:44:49 -0800
Subject: Re: PC800: unsolicited compliment
From: jdc84@juno.com (Joyce D Calvert)


> As someone said in a previous post, women love these 
>things!

Including the ones who ride them!

Most women I talk to say PC's are "pretty" or "feminine."  (Most) men who
own them don't seem to use those words.  But, PC's are definitely a
"chick magnet," no matter how you see them.

Joyce
Sonoma County, Ca
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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:47:55 -0800
Subject: Re: PC800: Closing the gap
From: jdc84@juno.com (Joyce D Calvert)

>> I am looking forward to the 200K mark, as I have never put that many 
>miles on
>> a machine before, and I actually do not know of anyone who has put 
>that many
>> miles on a PC 800 either. Looks like it should be in the spring of 
>'99.
>
>Ride, Dave, ride!!!  At this rate it will be early spring.  Seems like 
>about 8000
>in the last month or so, isn't it?

You're an animal, Dave!  Can't wait to ride with you in 2000 (if not
before!)

Joyce
Sonoma County
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:28:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John Scalisi <jscalisi@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Red Rider Magazine
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Anybody see the latest issue of HRCA's Red Rider Magazine?  In a Honda
history article there's actually mention and a picture of the PC800. 
Check it out.  The wording on the picture makes me wonder even more if
Honda stopped production for a year or two only to bring it back after
the current crop of new units sells out.  Keep hoping!


 

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From: "Hilsinger, George" <HilsinG@WSDOT.WA.GOV>
To: "'PC800'" <PC800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Fork protection
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:49:08 -0800

I found some for booties at one of the mail order companies, Comp.
Accessories I think.  They are thin foam with a bonded cloth material on
the face that will stick to the hook part of Velcro.   The stuff is kind
of like thin wetsuit material. You wrap them around the top of the
slider and use the provided piece of Velcro to join them at the seam.
They add an extra couple inches of coverage beyond that provided by the
built in protectors.  I don't recall the cost, but I bet a fabric shop
could provide the fixings for a buck or two and you could customize the
thickness and height of the protection.


George Hilsinger
HilsinG@wsdot.wa.gov
Yakima, WA
97 PC800
81 CM400
85 CMX250C (hers)
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:52:28 -0800 (PST)
From: John Scalisi <jscalisi@yahoo.com>
Subject: PC800: Year Round Riding
To: PC800 List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Had Progressive Insurance remove the winter lay over from my policy a
couple weeks ago.  Since my wife's bike (1982 Suzuki GS450T) is also
on the policy, they said the lay over has to be removed for the policy
not per bike.  The extra cost for the three months (Dec., Jan. and
Feb.) was $47.00.  Not bad for two bikes.  My wife's bike probably
won't get ridden over the winter though.  I already rode the bike to
work yesterday and today.  Yesterday was great.  It was in the forties
here in Connecticut when I left for work at 7AM, raining just a little
bit on and off.  Then it cleared right up, but got real windy.  Today
was still above normal, in the mid to upper thirties at 7AM.  Bright
and sunny.  Weather man says it's going to be like that all week.  So
I should be able to ride in tomorrow and Friday as well.  If that's
true, by the end of the week, I'll already have four extra riding days
in for my $47.  Not bad!  I'm sure there will be plenty of time the
PC800 will be parked and covered in the garage once the temperatures
get more seasonal and the weather turns ugly.  But for now, I'm glad I
removed the lay over.



 

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From: "Chuck Chiodini" <chiodinc@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: headlight/electric clothes
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:09:28 PST

Fellow listers:
         A quick product report on two items:
1) Blue/White Xenon Gas Headlight bulb, purchased from Ooltewah Mfg. 
(Air Rider) from an add in "Rider" magazine. $14.99 plus $3.99 shipping. 
Arrived three days after I phone ordered. The add said "super high 
output" but it was the same wattage as my stock Honda bulb (55/60w). 
Actual roadway illumination seemed inferior to stock light. It did have 
a blue tinge to the light which seemed to further degrade roadway 
illumination. Was dissatisfied after two hours of riding and sent it 
back. Received refund with no problem. Where can I buy a high wattage 
50/80 or 80/100 H-4 bulb? My local Honda dealer won't carry them and the 
local auto parts super stores only carry stock replacement wattages. I'm 
particulary interested in the PIAA bulb mentioned in the archives.
2)  Gerbing heated vest (without collar) and gloves (medium weight). I 
ordered the BMW plug which inserted perfectly in my auxiliary power cord 
that I ran from my trunk to the driver/passenger seat interface.  I 
opted for the stock on/off switch but will definitely get a thermostat 
since I had to toggle the switch on and off every few minutes. Rode 1050 
miles in 21 hours (so you know it was cold at night!) from Heber Springs 
Arkansas to Fayetteville, North Carolina. Stayed on Highway 64 from 
Arkansas throungh Tennesse and into North Carolina a beautiful route! 
Daytime temps averaged 70 degrees! At night, the lowest my thermometer 
showed was 34 degrees in the Smokies (not counting wind chill). The 
vest/gloves heated up within 3 minutes and I can't describe how great it 
feels to feel the external warmth spreading throughout my body. Really 
puts a smile on your face! Vest worked so well that I couldn't leave it 
switched on for over 5 minutes at a time. My externally warmed core 
temperature seemed to keep my extremities legs, feet and arms warm as 
well. My only nit-pick is that the standard weight gloves felt a little 
"thick" but well worth the warmth. The gloves and vest are very high 
quality and insulate very well even without electricity. I'm spoiled 
now! For you electrical gurus out there; is there a cheaper/better way 
to rig up an adjustable resistor to modulate the amount of heat without 
having to spend $70 on the Gerbing thermostat?

      On another topic; can anyone tell me what a Honda CX 500 is? 
There's one in the local paper needing "carb work" for $500. Is this the 
"Silver Wing" "Ascot" or what? Jim Randall, can you shed some light on 
this bike for me? I could call the owner and ask but would like to get 
some viewpoints on the bike before I express interest.

Thanks!
Enjoying the ride in North Carolina (74 degrees today!)
Chuck in Fayetteville, NC
89 PC800 "Scooter" (guys like em too!)

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:08:51 -0800 (PST)
From: John La <johnla@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Kissan
To: Steve Zweigart <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>,
        Pacific Coast List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>






---Steve Zweigart <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net> wrote:
>
> I've been very sporadic about reviewing this list for the last three
weeks
> or so, as I've been reconfiguring my computer system.  I've got
messages
> from those three weeks spread out over three different machines, and
need to
> make a concerted effort to get them all read so that I'm completely
caught
> up.
> 
> Here's my question, if the answer isn't hovering around on one of
those
> other machines:
> 
> Several weeks back, there was much activity about Kissan modulators.
I've
> currently got two of them laying on my desk (one that I
purchased...doesn't
> work...a "new improved model that they sent me grattis...doesn't
work), and
> last that I heard, they were "working" on the problem.  The fact
that I
> haven't heard anything from Kissan for the past several weeks
despite my
> requests for information leads me to believe that they probably have
not
> found a solution for the PC modulator problem,  and have probably
given up.
> Any news from anyone regarding Kissan's success or lack thereof in
getting
> their modulator to work on the PC?
> 
> I thought about this the other day when someone pulled out in front
of me.
> 
> If Kissan's not going to work, anyone have any luck with any of the
other's
> on the market?
> 
> Steve Zweigart
> Maysville, Kentucky
> '97 PC800
> 
> P.S.  It's in the mid-60's here in KY.  Riding and loving it!!!!!
> 
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From: rthomass@ccmail.com
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 11:19:42 -0800
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re:PC800: Kissan 


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I just talked to Andy at Kisan.  They are expecting the new revision of the
circuit boards in the next few days.  I'll be getting a call as soon as they
have a completed assembly for testing.  

I loaned Kisan my '96 PC800 for testing in October.  They have a good idea of
what the problem is and how to work around it.  When I get the latest version of
the product I'll let everyone know how it goes.  

Kisan is about three miles from where I am sitting as I type this.

Blue Skies and fun rides,

Roy Thomassen

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Subject:    PC800: Kissan 
Author: "Steve Zweigart" <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>
Date:       12/2/98 7:55 AM

I've been very sporadic about reviewing this list for the last three weeks
or so, as I've been reconfiguring my computer system.  I've got messages
from those three weeks spread out over three different machines, and need to
make a concerted effort to get them all read so that I'm completely caught
up.

Here's my question, if the answer isn't hovering around on one of those
other machines:

Several weeks back, there was much activity about Kissan modulators. I've
currently got two of them laying on my desk (one that I purchased...doesn't
work...a "new improved model that they sent me grattis...doesn't work), and
last that I heard, they were "working" on the problem.  The fact that I
haven't heard anything from Kissan for the past several weeks despite my
requests for information leads me to believe that they probably have not
found a solution for the PC modulator problem,  and have probably given up.
Any news from anyone regarding Kissan's success or lack thereof in getting
their modulator to work on the PC?

I thought about this the other day when someone pulled out in front of me.

If Kissan's not going to work, anyone have any luck with any of the other's
on the market?

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800

P.S.  It's in the mid-60's here in KY.  Riding and loving it!!!!!

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To: "Pacific Coast List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Kissan
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:55:20 -0500

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From: "PCSG Ltd." <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Fork seals
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:35:22 -0000

Many 'Classic Bikes' and Trails Bikes have fork gaiters.
Not very pretty but it is the solution to the problem.

Job
Sussex
England

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> From: Spain, Harrison <spain@ugsolutions.com>
> To: 'PC800 Mailing List' <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Subject: PC800: Fork seals
> Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 3:27 PM
> 
> I finally got around to replacing my PC800 fork seals.  The seals leaked
a
> bit of oil for several months before getting real bad during the ride to
> Vegas.
> 
> NOTE: If the forks become pitted (little hard/black specs on the silver
> pistons), the pistons "score" the seals and it is only a matter of time
> before they start leaking oil.
> 
> At the end, oil was actually *splashing* around the forks and front of
the
> cycle (all that up and down motion on the ride to Vegas I suspect)!  I
also
> suspect that all the oil eventually leaked out since on the way to the
shop
> I hit a small bump and actually bottomed out the forks; at least I
suspect
> that was the case since I felt the hard jolt and *bang* associated with
this
> condition :-).
> 
> To reduce the chance of this happening to you, make sure to wipe down the
> forks every so often.  It should be noted that I did this and they still
> failed but I will defend myself further to note that the pits were there
> when I bought the cycle used with about 1,500 miles on it (it now has
> 20,000).  Also, it spent a lot of time right by the ocean which may have
> contributed to the condition.
> 
> For the curious, expect to spend about $150.  I was charged $100 + parts.
> The cycle now rides like new!
> 
> Harrison Spain
> Unigraphics Solutions
> GTAC Systems Support
> Tel: 714.952.6114
> Fax: 714.952.5371
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 15:35:20 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: headlight/electric clothes
To: chiodinc@hotmail.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

chiodinc@hotmail.com writes:
> On another topic; can anyone tell me what a Honda CX 500 is? 
>There's one in the local paper needing "carb work" for $500. Is
>this the 
>"Silver Wing" "Ascot" or what? Jim Randall, can you shed some
>light on 
>this bike for me? I could call the owner and ask but would like to
>get 
>some viewpoints on the bike before I express interest.
>
>Thanks!
>Enjoying the ride in North Carolina (74 degrees today!)
>Chuck in Fayetteville, NC
>89 PC800 "Scooter" (guys like em too!)

I too am looking for a brighter bulb. I know someone here was
talking about them a while back. With darkness arriving at 4:45 PM
now, I have noticed the need more acutely. I'll have to admit I
have not really started searching for one yet.

I used to own a CX500 that I bought new when they were a current
model. They are just like the Silver Wing only 150cc smaller
engine. I never had a bit of trouble with it, but I can't remember
how many miles I put on it. I traded it for a CX650, new, because I
liked the trunk storage compartment that replaced the rear seat. At
the time the Silver Wing model of the CX650 was too much money for
me.

I bought a set of Samsonite motorcycle luggage for it that worked
great. I modified the mounting brackets for the CX650 and used them
on that bike too. I still have them if you know of anyone that has
a CX650. I don't remember how I modified them now so I can't tell
you if they would still fit a CX500.

My only complaint is the way the cylinder heads angle out and sit
right in front of your legs. I always had a red spot on each leg
from the heat. Summer time was the worst.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

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From: Jim Alexander <jamesalexander@csi.com>
To: "'PC800 Rider'" <pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us>,
        "chiodinc@hotmail.com"
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Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: headlight/electric clothes
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:18:28 -0800

The Silverwing came out as both a 500 and a 650.  Not sure about the years, 
but a friend bought a 500 Silverwing while I owned a CX500 Custom.   Basic 
different between the Silverwing and the CX500 was the faring and the 
luggage including a small or large trunk which replaced the passenger seat 
or you could add an option and stick the trunk off the back and keep the 
trunk.

The CX500 & CX650 Turbos also came out later.    The difference was that 
the CX500 Turbo was fuel injected while the CX650 Turbo had carburetors. 
   The only thing that would keep up with them was a V65 (Manga or Sabre - 
1100 V4) or a CBX  (1000cc 6 cyclinder inline).

Jim Alexander  Concord California
'89 PC800
HSTA 2307SU   AMA 415932

On 12/2/98 12:35 PM, PC800 Rider [SMTP:pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us] wrote:
> chiodinc@hotmail.com writes:
> > On another topic; can anyone tell me what a Honda CX 500 is?
> >There's one in the local paper needing "carb work" for $500. Is
> >this the
> >"Silver Wing" "Ascot" or what? Jim Randall, can you shed some
> >light on
> >this bike for me? I could call the owner and ask but would like to
> >get
> >some viewpoints on the bike before I express interest.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Enjoying the ride in North Carolina (74 degrees today!)
> >Chuck in Fayetteville, NC
> >89 PC800 "Scooter" (guys like em too!)
>
> I too am looking for a brighter bulb. I know someone here was
> talking about them a while back. With darkness arriving at 4:45 PM
> now, I have noticed the need more acutely. I'll have to admit I
> have not really started searching for one yet.
>
> I used to own a CX500 that I bought new when they were a current
> model. They are just like the Silver Wing only 150cc smaller
> engine. I never had a bit of trouble with it, but I can't remember
> how many miles I put on it. I traded it for a CX650, new, because I
> liked the trunk storage compartment that replaced the rear seat. At
> the time the Silver Wing model of the CX650 was too much money for
> me.
>
> I bought a set of Samsonite motorcycle luggage for it that worked
> great. I modified the mounting brackets for the CX650 and used them
> on that bike too. I still have them if you know of anyone that has
> a CX650. I don't remember how I modified them now so I can't tell
> you if they would still fit a CX500.
>
> My only complaint is the way the cylinder heads angle out and sit
> right in front of your legs. I always had a red spot on each leg
> from the heat. Summer time was the worst.
>
> Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
> Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>
> AMA #688662
> HSTA #8387
>
> "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
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From: "Lippert, Jim" <jim.lippert@intel.com>
To: PC800 daemon <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: harley hearse
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:45:00 -0800 

all,

a friend of mine who reads the concours list came across this gem earlier
today.

http://www.dropbears.com/f/funerals/index.htm 

jim lippert
'98 Honda PC800
408/765-5772
800/306-8309 (pager)




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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 05:31:56 -0600
Subject: PC800: Auto-Lean
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

PC800 Auto Lean…

The PC800  auto lean is a product of aerodynamics.  It’s a matter of the
machine wind veining.  My experience is like doing a forward slip (not a
side slip) in a cross wind landing.  Consider if the wind was from the
right side then the control inputs would be right aileron and left
rudder.
Right aileron – lean right or into the wind.  Left rudder – shift weight
slightly to the left to compensate for the right lean.  I’m sure thatthe
pilots who ride PC800’s will agree.

Rodney Carey     1994 PC800, 8500 miles, “Monica”
3600 Hours PIC, ASEL, AMEL, ASES, CFI A&I, BGI, AGI,GII
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From: "Lippert, Jim" <jim.lippert@intel.com>
To: PC800 daemon <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: food for thought...
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:14:01 -0800 

with monday's rain and wind in the bay area, i decided to take the minivan
into work rather than the bike.  on the way home, i turned on the radio and
half listened to the football game while taking side streets to get around
the typical jam on montague expressway (on the bike, i just ride montague's
commuter lane).  it was pitch dark outside, raining, and rather windy.

while making a right turn back on to montague, i tried to anticipate a light
change and sneak the right turn in before all of the traffic to my left
pulled out on their green light.  as i started, i heard a tiny little beep
and the roar of a crotch rocket blasting past me out of the green light.
apparently, a guy on a BMW decided to split lanes and i didn't see him pull
up to the light (or he wasn't quite at the light when it changed).  luckily,
my minivan has lousy acceleration.

my first reaction was "what an idiot!"  while my radio was turned pretty
low, my windstar has good sound insulation and i barely heard his horn.
since i hadn't been on the bike for a week, it's possible that my instincts
went too far back into "cage" mode but i usually make an effort to make the
road safer for my fellow riders.

thoughtful insights from this brief encounter:

1)  lots of cars today have good sound insulation, and lots of drivers have
the radio on (loud or soft).  a 'cycle horn can't always be heard.

2)  in heavy traffic, both cars and bikes are competing for scarce space on
the road.  i was driving a bit aggressively (harder to do in a minivan!) and
not thinking about the unexpected:  a rider decided to show off his
acceleration and cut into the space where i was trying to go.

3)  i think the guy was an idiot for taking chances in bad weather.  he did,
however, have the right of way.

4)  on the PC, i've done similar foolish things, although i don't have the
same acceleration as a BMW racing bike...

it was a needed eye-opener for me to see things from both sides.

ride with safety, sanity, and courtesy.

jim lippert
'98 Honda PC800
408/765-5772
800/306-8309 (pager)

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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: "Lippert, Jim" <jim.lippert@intel.com>, "PC800 daemon" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: harley hearse
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:58:26 -0500

As a funeral director, I would love this.  Just think.... I could accomplish
two things at once.... working and riding.

Gives me an idea for my PC.... May have to use Ann's white one though... .I
think red would be too flashy

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Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 4:47 PM
Subject: PC800: harley hearse


>all,
>
>a friend of mine who reads the concours list came across this gem earlier
>today.
>
>http://www.dropbears.com/f/funerals/index.htm
>
>jim lippert
>'98 Honda PC800
>408/765-5772
>800/306-8309 (pager)
>
>
>
>
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Auto-Lean, on popular demand...
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:22:17 +0100

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Van: Rodney E Carey <rodneycarey@juno.com>
>The PC800  auto lean is a product of aerodynamics.  It’s a matter of the
>machine wind veining.
Sorry, Rod. Can't agree with you (yet). I'm sure JT is also itching to
answer your post, he knows this stuff a lot better than I, but it's not
as easy as you think. Motorcycles and airplanes are both very complex
machines in terms of dynamics, but they can't be compared that easy.
Wind veining of an airplane standing on the ground happens because
it has one big thing that motorcycles have not ; a vertical stabilizer (rudder).

We had a pretty long and detailed (and private after a while) discussion
into the 'autolean' subject. Now that I have my vista cruise installed I'm
not so sure it has this feature anymore, but I'm not sure because it isn't
tracking straight hands-loose. But it does seem to lean itself into crosswinds,
or at least without much effort.

JT had the most believable theory about the feature. It is first of all a combination
of the position and shape of the plastic side area, the (low) position of the  center
of gravity and the steering geometry of the PC. The aerodynamic explanation is
difficult to explain, but I will give it a shot. It is how I remember it after the discussion.
JT, please jump in anytime (I love this dynamic theory subjects).Here goes:

'The x-wind has the most effect on the side area between the wheels. In a x-wind
coming from the right it will push the area behind the frontwheel to the left. This
movement results in the steering bar turning to the left because of the trail of the
front wheel. This will in turn result in a roll motion to the right. On the PC,
precession contributes only about 8% of the total rolling moment associated
with a steering deflection. The other 92% is due to the inertial reaction to the yaw
produced by the steering deflection per se. This inertial reaction can be compared
to the roll tendency you will see in a car when you steer left, it wants to roll right.
Offcourse the rolling motion to the right will be countered by the x-wind itself,
but apparently on the PC, because of it's CG, aerodynamics and steering geometry
this countering rolling motion is pretty strong.'
That's the theory.

In your theory, the wind veining, the PC would need a large area behind the rear wheel
( a rudder). In fact this would result in a aircraft (on the ground) veining to the right
in a right x-wind, but on a riding PC it would result in a roll to the left as well as a yaw to
the right (in right x-wind). So that would make a roll left and a yaw right on top of the roll
left caused by the right x-wind, sounds real unstable, undesirable and thus dangerous
on a motorcycle, unless you have rudder control. I don't think your theory will hold.
As you can see these motorcycles are more complex than you might think.

> My experience is like doing a forward slip (not a
>side slip) in a cross wind landing.
In fact they are the same thing. Only the ground reference is different.
But I'm sure you know that. : )

>Consider if the wind was from the
>right side then the control inputs would be right aileron and left
>rudder. Right aileron – lean right or into the wind.  Left rudder – shift weight
>slightly to the left to compensate for the right lean.  I’m sure that the
>pilots who ride PC800’s will agree.
>
Sorry Rod. I don't agree (yet). I don't have to shift my weight in a x-wind.
I can hang into the wind even if I want. It will only decrease or increase
lean angle of the bike, but nothing else.
In a plane the roll and yaw are necessary to align the wheels with the runway
direction (except in a B52). On a bike the lean (of you and/or of the bike)
is only necessary to prevent it from falling over. It's different, really.

>Rodney Carey     1994 PC800, 8500 miles, “Monica”
>3600 Hours PIC, ASEL, AMEL, ASES, CFI A&I, BGI, AGI,GII
>
I still love that 'Monica' name, Rod. You got about ten times more
flying experience than I, but the theory on motorcycles is a lot more
different than you think. JT is the real expert on these things, I'm
merely quoting him. I didn't know most of this stuff untill after that lean
discussion. I keep on learning on this list.
So how do you like this approach to the autolean ? It makes some
sense, doesn't it ? I'm sure you will agree. We'll still be friends, right ? : )=)

Emile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman"
234 Hours PIC, Dutch CPL IR, theoretical ATPL, Dutch MEL, Dutch PA31 rating

http://fly.to/emile
ICQ 17992318
Emile@Cybercomm.nl




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From: RVPC800@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:03:24 EST
To: chiodinc@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: headlight/electric clothes

In a message dated 12/2/98 12:10:31 PM Central Standard Time,
chiodinc@hotmail.com writes:

<< Where can I buy a high wattage 
 50/80 or 80/100 H-4 bulb? My local Honda dealer won't carry them and the 
 local auto parts super stores only carry stock replacement wattage's. I' >>
I am currently using a 90/130 watt bulb that I purchased from Way Out West
Honda mail order. They are located in Katy Tx. I am sorry that I cannot
provided the telephone number, but I am sure that directory assistance will
have. Someone else on the list (I can't remember who) told me about it. I can
tell no difference with running down the battery or anything, and I sure like
the additional light. I have had a 55'/100 watt previously, and like the new
one even better. 

Russ
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From: "Larry Furr" <larpaul@netdoor.com>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:56:05 -0600
Importance: Normal

Many thanks to all who provided me input and gave me info on dealer pricing
and what to expect.  I finally located a 98 uncrated PC in Spencerport, NY.
Dealer sold it to me for $6,300 and I paid an extra $425 for the dealer to
arrange shipping to MS via Yellow Freight. The bike has arrived, but Yellow
Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to my house,
but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say the truck
does not have a lift gate.  I thought that delivery included the off loading
of the bike by the carrier and didn't even give it a thought.  Anyone
familiar with trucking lines and their policies regarding delivery.  I am
going to call them again tomorrow and try to talk to someone in management.
Anyway, I'm very close to that first ride and given that there are no bikes
located in this area, I am satisfied with the total cost to get this bike
(almost) in my garage.  Thanks again to all.

Larry Furr

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:06:39 -0600
From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james)
To: Larry Furr <larpaul@netdoor.com>, "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......

Hi Larry.
Congratulations on your new ride. You're really going to enjoy it.
It's sound's kinda strange that Yellow Freight won't un-load your bike.
That should be part of the "shipping" process.
If, after talking to Yellow Freight's management, and they still won't
unload, go to your neighborhood grocery store. Talk to the manager and
I'll bet you he'll let you use his loading dock.
I've used the loading dock at my store a few times to load and un-load
my PC out of my pick-up.
(I use the "short dock". It's just the right height for my truck.)
You'll need to use the docks that they use to unload their "big" trucks.

Good luck,
James
Lubbock, Tx.
'90 PC



Larry Furr wrote:

> Many thanks to all who provided me input and gave me info on dealer
> pricing
> and what to expect.  I finally located a 98 uncrated PC in
> Spencerport, NY.
> Dealer sold it to me for $6,300 and I paid an extra $425 for the
> dealer to
> arrange shipping to MS via Yellow Freight. The bike has arrived, but
> Yellow
> Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to my
> house,
> but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say the
> truck
> does not have a lift gate.  I thought that delivery included the off
> loading
> of the bike by the carrier and didn't even give it a thought.  Anyone
> familiar with trucking lines and their policies regarding delivery.  I
> am
> going to call them again tomorrow and try to talk to someone in
> management.
> Anyway, I'm very close to that first ride and given that there are no
> bikes
> located in this area, I am satisfied with the total cost to get this
> bike
> (almost) in my garage.  Thanks again to all.
>
> Larry Furr
>
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From: GuntherSki@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:02:36 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu
Subject: PC800: Chicago Toys for Tots....

Hello,

Chicago Toys for Tots is happening this SUNDAY....  I'll be there and any and
all of you are invited... The line up starts at 7:30 AM and the ride begins at
10:30AM. I'll be leaving my place, (on the North side of the city) at about
8AM. So please, bring a toy and have some fun. If the weather holds, there
will be a HUGE turnout.... Let me know if you want to ride down with me....

TZ
773-235-0933
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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:48:39 +0200 

Hi cool people of the world

A few people were quite interested in my serial number, but
unfortunately I couldn't find it behind the headlight on the frame as
some people pointed out. I will take off a cover or two and hunt it
down. On my insurer's record the number is RC341 000 170. This is only
11 digits and not 17 as I believe it should be. I suppose this mean that
I have a California model bike? And I still don't have any clue what
year it is! It has a silver body with a darker underside, and the front
disks are invisible behind a panel with the word "Microlon" on them. Any
ideas? O yes, and most of the stickers are Japanese, except the Pacific
Coast decal on the side. I hope to have picture of it soon on my
website, I will try to get it done before the weekend's over.

And regarding the wind, I drove in the worst cross-winds today, and I
was amazed at how little the PC budged, instead when you lean about 4
deg into it the aerodynamics take care of everything.

We had our annual Toy Run on Sunday as well, but I didn't have the bike
ready then because me and my dad fixed the "rubbing rear tyre" effect.
My problem was that my dad got a little oversized Metzler rear tyre and
it chafed against the steel lip at the front of the wheel well, which we
grinded away with care. Problem solved!

Nice riding
Lohan
PC800 54k
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 06:57:27 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......
To: larpaul@netdoor.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

larpaul@netdoor.com writes:
>The bike has arrived, but Yellow
>Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to
>my house,
>but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say
>the truck
>does not have a lift gate. 


Yu might be able to get what you need for unloading at your local
Rent-It center. Since you say it was uncrated at the dealer I'm not
sure what they did to ship it to you, but our rental places have
everything from ramps to fork lifts. I don't think this is an
unusual trucking practice though. I have heard of it before. That
is one of those "up front" pre-delivery arrangements you never
think to ask about.

Spencerport is only about 45 minutes from me. Too bad the weather
is not better or I would have ridden it down to you for free. No
unloading necessary.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:25:32 -0500
From: dana sawyer <Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com>
Subject: PC800: Merry Christmas...
To: HondaPacificCoastOwners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        HSTA Postings to List <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>


THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
A festive holiday poem
Hugh Drumm & Vincent Ambrose


'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the Net,
There were hacker's a surfing. Geeks? Yeah, you bet.
The e-mails were stacked by the modem with care,
In hopes that St. Nicholas soon would be there.
The newbies were nestled all snug by their screens,
While visions of Java danced in their dreams.
My wife on the sofa and me with a snack, =

We just settled down at my rig (it's a Mac).
When out in the Web there arose such a clatter,
I jumped to the site to see what was the matter.
To a new page my Mac flew like a flash,
Then made a slight gurgle. It started to crash!!
I gasped at the thought and started to grouse,
Then turned my head sideways and clicked on my mouse.
When what to my wondering eyes should appear,
My Mac jumped to a page that wasn't quite clear.
When the image resolved, so bright and so quick,
I knew in a moment it must be St. Nick!
More rapid than mainframes, more graphics they came,
Then Nick glanced toward my screen, =

my Mac called them by name;
"Now Compaq! Now Acer!", my speaker did reel;
"On Apple! On Gateway!" Santa started to squeal!
"Jump onto the circuits! And into the chip!
Now speed it up! Speed it up! Make this thing hip!"
The screen gave a flicker, he was into my RAM,
Then into my room rose a full hologram!
He was dressed in all red, from his head to his shoes,
Which were black (the white socks he really should lose).
He pulled out some discs he had stored in his backpack.
Santa looked like a dude who was rarin' to hack!
His eyes, how they twinkled! His glasses, how techno!
This ain't the same Santa that I used to know!
With a wink of his eye and a nod of his head,
Santa soon let me know I had nothing to dread.
He spoke not a word, gave my Mac a quick poke,
And accessed my C drive with only a stroke.
He defragged my hard drive, and added a SIMM,
Then threw in some cool games, just on a whim!
He worked without noise, his fingers they flew!
He distorted some pictures with Kai's Power Goo!
He updated Office, Excel and Quicken,
Then added a screensaver with a red clucking chicken!
My eyes widened a bit, my mouth stood agape,
As he added the latest version of Netscape.
The drive gave a whirl, as if it were pleased,
St. Nick coyly smiled, the computer appeased.
Then placing his finger on the bridge of his nose,
Santa turned into nothing but ones and zeros!
He flew back into my screen and through my uplink,
Back into the net with barely a blink.
But I heard his sweet voice as he flew from my sight,
"Happy surfing to all, and to all a good byte!"
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:38:24 -0500
From: Roger Prince <rogerprince@iname.com>
To: Larry Furr <larpaul@netdoor.com>
Cc: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......

When I had my PC shipped home from Montana this past June I had to pay $60 extra
for delivery to a residential address.  I guess a commercial address assumes a
fork-lift.

Roger Prince

Larry Furr wrote:

> Many thanks to all who provided me input and gave me info on dealer pricing
> and what to expect.  I finally located a 98 uncrated PC in Spencerport, NY.
> Dealer sold it to me for $6,300 and I paid an extra $425 for the dealer to
> arrange shipping to MS via Yellow Freight. The bike has arrived, but Yellow
> Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to my house,
> but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say the truck
> does not have a lift gate.  I thought that delivery included the off loading
> of the bike by the carrier and didn't even give it a thought.  Anyone
> familiar with trucking lines and their policies regarding delivery.  I am
> going to call them again tomorrow and try to talk to someone in management.
> Anyway, I'm very close to that first ride and given that there are no bikes
> located in this area, I am satisfied with the total cost to get this bike
> (almost) in my garage.  Thanks again to all.
>
> Larry Furr
>
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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: "Larry Furr" <larpaul@netdoor.com>, "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:47:06 -0500

I would suggest doing what James said..... using a loading dock of some
local store.  I have also used the dock at our Advance Auto.

I would make sure that I tied up Yellow Freight about half the day.  That
may teach them.  I have never heard of that policy.  Most of the time you
hear "Delivered to your doorstep" and "delivery inside of the home will cost
more".
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From: Larry Furr <larpaul@netdoor.com>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:00 PM
Subject: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......


>Many thanks to all who provided me input and gave me info on dealer pricing
>and what to expect.  I finally located a 98 uncrated PC in Spencerport, NY.
>Dealer sold it to me for $6,300 and I paid an extra $425 for the dealer to
>arrange shipping to MS via Yellow Freight. The bike has arrived, but Yellow
>Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to my house,
>but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say the truck
>does not have a lift gate.  I thought that delivery included the off
loading
>of the bike by the carrier and didn't even give it a thought.  Anyone
>familiar with trucking lines and their policies regarding delivery.  I am
>going to call them again tomorrow and try to talk to someone in management.
>Anyway, I'm very close to that first ride and given that there are no bikes
>located in this area, I am satisfied with the total cost to get this bike
>(almost) in my garage.  Thanks again to all.
>
>Larry Furr
>
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From: "Hilsinger, George" <HilsinG@WSDOT.WA.GOV>
To: "'PC800'" <PC800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Light Bulbs
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:10:53 -0800

For those thinking about brighter lights, blue tinted lights, xenon
lights, etc., I recommend that you read Dan Stern's FAQ on automotive
lighting at http://lighting.mbz.org/faq/ which contains lots of
information.  Basically, blue light is very bad for on-coming drivers.
I have seen All Weather lamps in one of the m/c catalogs.  These have a
yellow cast two them which is supposed to be better for you and oncoming
cars.  They also meet DOT standards for white lights.  Someone on the
list said they were installing one a while ago.  Hopefully they will
report on 


George Hilsinger
HilsinG@wsdot.wa.gov
Yakima, WA
97 PC800
81 CM400
85 CMX250C (hers)
their experience.  If not, I will try one for my next bulb replacement.
 
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From: BernieK469@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:02:55 -0500 (EST)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:02:55 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Head Lights

There is a head light that generates almost twice the illumination at the same
amperage as the OME light.  I have found the Polarg Light a vast improvement,
not only is seeing but being seen.  I have had no problem in over heating,
even during our 110 degree Kansas  summer. The Polarg light looks like the
bright white head lights found on some of the new,  more expensive,  autos.  

These lights are not available universally, but you can probably find a local
retailer by calling my dealer,  Dell's Honda in Blue Springs, Mo.
(816.229.0300)

Bernie
94 PC 48 K
Overland Park,KS
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From: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
To: <rthomass@ccmail.com>
Cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Kissan 
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:30:18 -0500

Roy,
    I'm looking forward to getting a working head lamp modulator from the
good folks at Kisan.  do you think that the revision of the circuit boards
will contain circuitry which would be helpful for other electrical problems
inherent to the Pacific Coast?  I'd be curious to know exactly what it is
they are "curing."

Steven R. Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
' 97 PC 800

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From: rthomass@ccmail.com <rthomass@ccmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 02 December 1998 14:19
Subject: Re:PC800: Kissan


>I just talked to Andy at Kisan.  They are expecting the new revision of the
>circuit boards in the next few days.  I'll be getting a call as soon as
they
>have a completed assembly for testing.
>
>I loaned Kisan my '96 PC800 for testing in October.  They have a good idea
of
>what the problem is and how to work around it.  When I get the latest
version of
>the product I'll let everyone know how it goes.
>
>Kisan is about three miles from where I am sitting as I type this.
>
>Blue Skies and fun rides,
>
>Roy Thomassen
>
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>Subject:    PC800: Kissan
>Author: "Steve Zweigart" <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>
>Date:       12/2/98 7:55 AM
>
>I've been very sporadic about reviewing this list for the last three weeks
>or so, as I've been reconfiguring my computer system.  I've got messages
>from those three weeks spread out over three different machines, and need
to
>make a concerted effort to get them all read so that I'm completely caught
>up.
>
>Here's my question, if the answer isn't hovering around on one of those
>other machines:
>
>Several weeks back, there was much activity about Kissan modulators. I've
>currently got two of them laying on my desk (one that I purchased...doesn't
>work...a "new improved model that they sent me grattis...doesn't work), and
>last that I heard, they were "working" on the problem.  The fact that I
>haven't heard anything from Kissan for the past several weeks despite my
>requests for information leads me to believe that they probably have not
>found a solution for the PC modulator problem,  and have probably given up.
>Any news from anyone regarding Kissan's success or lack thereof in getting
>their modulator to work on the PC?
>
>I thought about this the other day when someone pulled out in front of me.
>
>If Kissan's not going to work, anyone have any luck with any of the other's
>on the market?
>
>Steve Zweigart
>Maysville, Kentucky
>'97 PC800
>
>P.S.  It's in the mid-60's here in KY.  Riding and loving it!!!!!
>
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From: rthomass@ccmail.com
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 16:03:11 -0800
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re[2]: Re:PC800: Kissan  
Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part"

Steve,

The design rework that Kisan is doing is for filtering excessive "noise" so that
the modulator can modulate without interference.  According to Kisan the PC800
has a very noisy electrical system.  
I am not an electrical engineer, nor do I play one on TV. 

The PathBlazer is a device that plugs "inline" with the bulb and connector. I
don't think that the filtering will have any effect on anything but the
modulator.

Roy

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Subject:    Re: Re:PC800: Kissan  
Author: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
Date:       12/3/98 5:30 PM

Roy,
    I'm looking forward to getting a working head lamp modulator from the
good folks at Kisan.  do you think that the revision of the circuit boards
will contain circuitry which would be helpful for other electrical problems
inherent to the Pacific Coast?  I'd be curious to know exactly what it is
they are "curing."

Steven R. Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
' 97 PC 800

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From: rthomass@ccmail.com <rthomass@ccmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 02 December 1998 14:19
Subject: Re:PC800: Kissan


>I just talked to Andy at Kisan.  They are expecting the new revision of the
>circuit boards in the next few days.  I'll be getting a call as soon as
they
>have a completed assembly for testing.
>
>I loaned Kisan my '96 PC800 for testing in October.  They have a good idea
of
>what the problem is and how to work around it.  When I get the latest
version of
>the product I'll let everyone know how it goes.
>
>Kisan is about three miles from where I am sitting as I type this.
>
>Blue Skies and fun rides,
>
>Roy Thomassen

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From: annreid@juno.com
 by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DVK763QJ; Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:40:51 EST
To: mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:41:41 -0700
Subject: PC800: HARDLY A. HEARSE

Michael,

	SING ALONG WITH MICHAEL:  Have you ever wondered when the bikehearse (*)
goes by that you might be the next to fly?  Or bury yourself six feet
deep, while those left behind sit and weep?  

	Saw Harley Hearse website.  Clever!  Maybe you should change your name
to Mo'cycle-Michael and advertise: Take the Final Journey in a 
Linkhearse Sleigh (well, it is X-Mess!).   Actually, it's probably an
idea whose time has come.....once you're gone.  

	I'm game.  (Not fair game; just game.)  The Ghost will be ready at the
drop of a body.  May I suggest we open our "new age mortuary-on-wheels"
next door to a tennis court in a retirement community who allows no
residents under the age of 70 (Whew! That was close!!!!!) ?  (She said
with folded hands and bowed head.)

Ann
'89 PC-AZ Ghost-Digger
Thu. 12.3.98 16:40 MST

(*)  If you say bikehearse real fast, it "sounds-like" bikers.  (...and
the crowd throws ripe tomatoes.)
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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: <annreid@juno.com>
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: HARDLY A. HEARSE
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:17:22 -0500

Ann.... it sounds to me that you have ALOT of free time on your
hands.....You are one clever gal.

How many times did you say BIKE-HEARSE aloud to figure out it sounded like
BIKERS [gives me an idea for personalized license plates]????

<<snip>>
Actually, it's probably an idea whose time has come.....once you're gone.
<<snip>>
it is like I say: When your day ends... mine begins


The new-age mortuary on wheels sounds good to me.  [you're thinking
ahead.... logo tennis balls may "fly over" well, too]   These new-agers opt
for cremation.... just think... no modifications to the PC....  I think I
want to be the escort PC now and you can be the PhD (professional hearse
driver) and haul the ashes in your trunk!!!

And to answer Rods question about what the funeral director would wear while
driving the bike hearse.... nothing would look as funny as the day I rode my
PC to work (which is only 1 mile away) with my suit on and tie flapping in
the wind..... I felt like Mr. Douglas on his tractor [remember Green Acres]

I better quit now before everyone gets the wrong idea about this funeral
director.  Sometimes I just have to laugh... to keep from crying....
<serious>

Take Care Ann.... and REJOIN the list.  We miss your delightful inputs.....

Michael




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From: annreid@juno.com <annreid@juno.com>
To: mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:42 PM
Subject: HARDLY A. HEARSE


>Michael,
>
> SING ALONG WITH MICHAEL:  Have you ever wondered when the bikehearse (*)
>goes by that you might be the next to fly?  Or bury yourself six feet
>deep, while those left behind sit and weep?
>
> Saw Harley Hearse website.  Clever!  Maybe you should change your name
>to Mo'cycle-Michael and advertise: Take the Final Journey in a
>Linkhearse Sleigh (well, it is X-Mess!).   Actually, it's probably an
>idea whose time has come.....once you're gone.
>
> I'm game.  (Not fair game; just game.)  The Ghost will be ready at the
>drop of a body.  May I suggest we open our "new age mortuary-on-wheels"
>next door to a tennis court in a retirement community who allows no
>residents under the age of 70 (Whew! That was close!!!!!) ?  (She said
>with folded hands and bowed head.)
>
>Ann
>'89 PC-AZ Ghost-Digger
>Thu. 12.3.98 16:40 MST
>
>(*)  If you say bikehearse real fast, it "sounds-like" bikers.  (...and
>the crowd throws ripe tomatoes.)

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From: Peter_N1@verifone.com
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: New PC has arrived but.......
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:56:59 -0800 

Congratulations Larry,

  I am sure you will enjoy your new ride, once you get it.

  Your shipper's position on unloading is not uncommon, at least here in
California. Most commercial delivery companies expect that they are delivering
to a business with a loading dock, and therefore do not use trucks with a
liftgate. Also most trucks I see on the road  have only a driver, no helper. So
unless the truck has a liftgate, the driver has no way of offloading anything
large from the truck himself.

  You may be able to go to a U-Haul in your local area and rent a ramp for the
day to get the bike off the truck.

Good Luck,


Peter Noeth || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/9.5k and loving every minuite!



> ----------
> From: 	Larry Furr[SMTP:larpaul@netdoor.com]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, December 02, 1998 7:56 PM
> To: 	PC800
> Subject: 	PC800: New PC has arrived but.......
> 
> Many thanks to all who provided me input and gave me info on dealer pricing
> and what to expect.  I finally located a 98 uncrated PC in Spencerport, NY.
> Dealer sold it to me for $6,300 and I paid an extra $425 for the dealer to
> arrange shipping to MS via Yellow Freight. The bike has arrived, but Yellow
> Freight has called me and said that they will deliver the bike to my house,
> but it will be up to me to get the bike off the truck.  They say the truck
> does not have a lift gate.  I thought that delivery included the off loading
> of the bike by the carrier and didn't even give it a thought.  Anyone
> familiar with trucking lines and their policies regarding delivery.  I am
> going to call them again tomorrow and try to talk to someone in management.
> Anyway, I'm very close to that first ride and given that there are no bikes
> located in this area, I am satisfied with the total cost to get this bike
> (almost) in my garage.  Thanks again to all.
> 
> Larry Furr
> 
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 21:35:25 -0500
From: Scot Piper <scotp1965@mdn.net>
To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Kisan Modulator

Hello and Happy Holidays to everyone!  I've been off the list a while
and have not kept up on the headlight modulator issues.  

I have a Kisan 75W and it modulates at night.  I talked to Andy at Kisan
a while back and they were working on a fix.  I haven't heard a thing
since.  Has anyone else?

Scot
'89 PC800
21,500 miles and still riding in Michigan
------------------------------------------

ps.  Please reply to me privately with info on the Kisan modulator. 
Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 01:40:48 -0400
To: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>,
        Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like

At 10:48 AM +0200 12/3/98, Lohan Johnson wrote:
>Hi cool people of the world
>
>A few people were quite interested in my serial number, but
>unfortunately I couldn't find it behind the headlight on the frame as
>some people pointed out. I will take off a cover or two and hunt it
>down. On my insurer's record the number is RC341 000 170. This is only
>11 digits and not 17 as I believe it should be. I suppose this mean that
>I have a California model bike? And I still don't have any clue what
>year it is!

Based on the RC341, yes that would indicate it is a California spec model.
The first 0 would indicate that it is a 1989 model year.  The full VIN
would be helpful to confirm this.

Normally the sticker you are looking for should be easy to spot. It would
also show the date of manufacturer, which would help determine the model
year.

Get down low by the right side of the front wheel. Look up the right fork
until you see where it meets the head of the frame. On the side of the
frame there should be a sticker or plate indicating the year, date of
manufacture, etc.   The sticker would be at about the same height as the
headlight assembly, but further back along the bike.  It should be really
easy to spot, unless for some reason the sticker appears elsewhere on your
model for some country specific reason.

Yes....I'm really curious!

bye for now...

fsl

fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:01:36 +0100

>Based on the RC341, yes that would indicate it is a California spec model.
>The first 0 would indicate that it is a 1989 model year.

According to : http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/int-pc800-models.htm it's a '97,
with 'rotor covers' BTW.
Maybe it was repainted. You got me curious too.
 
Emile
http://fly.to/emile


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From: "Mark Ham" <mham@jps.net>
To: <RVPC800@aol.com>, <chiodinc@hotmail.com>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: headlight/electric clothes
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:03:05 -0800

Russ,
I just purchased the same 90/130 bulb you have from a local Honda dealer
here in Sacramento CA.  I too love the extra lighting it provides.  However,
I am concerned about the amount of heat the light generates and I'm kind of
woried about it melting the plastic reflector inside the headlight.  My
question to you is how long have you been running your 90/130 bulb and have
you had any problems with the heat?

Mark Ham
'96 Pacific Coast

>I am currently using a 90/130 watt bulb that I purchased from Way Out West
>Honda mail order. They are located in Katy Tx. I am sorry that I cannot
>provided the telephone number, but I am sure that directory assistance will
>have. Someone else on the list (I can't remember who) told me about it. I
can
>tell no difference with running down the battery or anything, and I sure
like
>the additional light. I have had a 55'/100 watt previously, and like the
new
>one even better.
>
>Russ
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From: David@Shumaker.com
To: "PacificCoastOwnersList" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/kd7yd/corel.jpg
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:57:25 -0800
Importance: Normal

Look what I found in clipart on my Corel Disk.  You can see it at
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/kd7yd/corel.jpg. It was labeled a Honda
Wing?

Dave


David Shumaker
Puyallup, Washington (Seattle-Tacoma area)

mailto:David@Shumaker.com
HTTP://David.Shumaker.com

'97 Honda Pacific Coast (PC800), 'Red Peppers'
AMA #633741, HRCA # HH696082, HSTA #8327RG

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From: "Tom and Anita Humphrey" <anitom@pacbell.net>
To: "Pacific Coast Mailing List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, <BernieK469@aol.com>
Subject: RE: PC800: Head Lights
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:23:07 -0800
Importance: Normal

Bernie -
I too have the Polarig aftermarket headlamp bulb, 55/60 w that "claims" an
output of 80/100 w.  I ordered the white model. But it has a coating on the
bulb that makes the light appear shifted to the amber.  I do not, repeat,
NOT see an increase of light output.  In fact, I suspect that it is actually
putting out less light (lumens) than the stock bulb.  Physics sez you don't
get something for nothing, but I think they got my money & I got a
pig-in-a-poke.
Now the Kisan 75w plug-in modulator, that helps!  That is, it helps me BE
seen.
I sure would like someone with proper measurement equipment to actually
measure the light output of these "miracle bulbs" and report their findings
to the list.  If I can by more actual light output at the same (or slightly
more) input current, then I would.  But gosh, we gotta compare lumens to
lumens.
BTW, which bulb did you get?  Clear?  White?  Amber?  Super White?  And it
was stamped "55/60 w", wasn't it?
Tom in Clayton CA

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From: a.m@wxs.nl
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Snow
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:39:33 +0100

Hi List.

This morning i started my bike and drove away to my work. After
5 minutes it started to snow well this time i realy did not like
it to snow. After a few minutes my tall hondaline screen went
white from below to the top. At that moment i thought that the
snow color looked good on my pealy white '89. When i arrived on
my work i kind a looked like a polar bear. But my bike brought
my safe to my work. In my opinion there are a couple off things
to remember while driving in the snow. Drive easy not the way i
did first 4000 RPM the release the clutch ( yea finally i can
make a burn out ;-) ). And frequently wipe the snow off your
helmet to keep a clear vision.

It still snows and well i live in Holland so we think there is
verry much snow (2 inches maximum) but i hope the snow melts
away before i go home i only have to rida 10 Miles so its not
that far. But if it keeps snowing i must look for snow tracks on
Skippy.

Well i let you guys know if i have to dig out my bike from the
snow.



BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
bike and did you liked it. 

Yet i'm still glad i did not put my bike away for the winter i
don't know if i think like wise when i'm going to drive home
this afternoon.

Keep up The PC Driving.

Arjan Andriessen
PC 800 '89
Skippy bike






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From: RVPC800@aol.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:06:57 EST
To: mham@jps.net, chiodinc@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: headlight/electric clothes

In a message dated 12/4/98 2:02:51 AM Central Standard Time, mham@jps.net
writes:

<< My
 question to you is how long have you been running your 90/130 bulb and have
 you had any problems with the heat? >>
Hi Mark
Good question, and one that I wondered myself.
I put the bulb in last August. I took a chance that I would be OK and so far
is has. I have ridden in near 100 degree heat in stop and go traffic where the
cooling fan would barely ever shut off yet the heatlight/reflector assembly
was not bothered in the least.
Now I look for excuses for going for rides on the blackest nights. One
interesting thing, I have had cages flash their brights at me to turn my high
beams off, except that I was already on low beam! 
Candlepower, as in luggage space, is something that is hard to have too much
of.

Try it, You'll like it!

Russ
95 PC800 56,000 mi
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:45:26 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: a.m@wxs.nl
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

a.m@wxs.nl wrote:

> BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
> bike and did you liked it.
> 
> Yet i'm still glad i did not put my bike away for the winter i
> don't know if i think like wise when i'm going to drive home
> this afternoon.
> 
> Keep up The PC Driving.
> 
> Arjan Andriessen
> PC 800 '89
> Skippy bike

Yeow,  Nope,  No snow riding for this boy.  I have a hard enough time
keeping the truck out of the ditch with all four wheels.  Plus here in
Michigan, they use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.  I have
heard stories and seen bikes for myself that are used year round and how
the salt just corrodes everything it touches.  And with all the damn
nooks and crannies that each bike has, no thanks in trying to clean it.

Just filled up the bike last night (@ 85.9 cents per gallon, thank you
very much) and put in the Sta-bil.  Time to take the battery out next.

Should I bother with taking the battery out or should I just hook up a
charger?  I read all the terrible stories about how hard it is to get
too and I wonder which way I should go?  The bike will be kept in an
attached, but unheated garage.  How long does it take to take the
battery out?

Thanks much

TommyTeal
-- 
93SE (Teal, You Think?)
95Hannigan
95ACE (got to go)
97Pacific Coast 
98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
GWTA #6871
GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:54:53 -0500
From: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
To: Honda Pacific Coast Group <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: PC800 for Sale

Coasters,

Below is a snip from a local PC rider that is not on the maillist.  She
is wanting to sell her virtually new 1996.  The price looks low to me! 
Given that price and that Honda is stopping production, I wish I could
buy it for a spare!  (The divorce would cost too much.)

>Got a piece of bad news.  Do you know anyone looking for a '96 PC with 3300
>miles on it?   Yeap, I'm selling mine.  Looking for around $4700, but,
>that's negotiable.  

>Appreciate it if you could circulate this around.  I know when I sell it,
>I'm going to miss it.

>Gerita Milam
>AE, Lucent Technologies
>Voice: (770) 237-2627
>Fax: (770) 237-9390
>Email: geritam@lucent.com


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1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
5800 (S)miles
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From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:38:28 -0500 (EST)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:38:28 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Kissan

HI, Steve:

As far as I know, there's been nothing new regarding Kisan's attempts to solve
the voltage regulation problem.  I have four of them (one on each of our PCs,
one on the Hawk GT and one on the VFR), and they all continue to work fine.
So the problem isn't universal.  Nonetheless, I too await any updated news.

J. T.
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:02:12 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Roger Prince <roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com>
CC: PC800 Mail List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

Roger,

I have heard alot about the "Battery Tender".  Is this available locally
(K-Mart, WallyWorld, Coast to Coast, etc) or is it only available mail
order?

Thanks much

TommyTeal


Roger Prince wrote:
> 
> Just leave the Battery Tender pigtail on the bike and connect the battery
> tender.  I switch the Battery Tender between bikes every week or two.  You
> can buy additional pigtails from the Battery Tender company.  Each bike has
> its own.
> 
> Roger Prince
> 
> Thomas Ongstad wrote:
> 
> > a.m@wxs.nl wrote:
> >
> > > BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
> > > bike and did you liked it.
> > >
> > > Yet i'm still glad i did not put my bike away for the winter i
> > > don't know if i think like wise when i'm going to drive home
> > > this afternoon.
> > >
> > > Keep up The PC Driving.
> > >
> > > Arjan Andriessen
> > > PC 800 '89
> > > Skippy bike
> >
> > Yeow,  Nope,  No snow riding for this boy.  I have a hard enough time
> > keeping the truck out of the ditch with all four wheels.  Plus here in
> > Michigan, they use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.  I have
> > heard stories and seen bikes for myself that are used year round and how
> > the salt just corrodes everything it touches.  And with all the damn
> > nooks and crannies that each bike has, no thanks in trying to clean it.
> >
> > Just filled up the bike last night (@ 85.9 cents per gallon, thank you
> > very much) and put in the Sta-bil.  Time to take the battery out next.
> >
> > Should I bother with taking the battery out or should I just hook up a
> > charger?  I read all the terrible stories about how hard it is to get
> > too and I wonder which way I should go?  The bike will be kept in an
> > attached, but unheated garage.  How long does it take to take the
> > battery out?
> >
> > Thanks much
> >
> > TommyTeal
> > --
> > 93SE (Teal, You Think?)
> > 95Hannigan
> > 95ACE (got to go)
> > 97Pacific Coast
> > 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
> > GWTA #6871
> > GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:14:13 -0400
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

Arjan:

>BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
>bike and did you liked it.

Hello from east coast Canada.  We don't have any snow here yet.  I've
driven my PC and other cycles in snow and mud, in my opinion the PC is
really not built for low-traction conditions.  I leave my bike out during
the winter and drive it on days when the road is bare, and it's not too
cold -- say above -6~C (say above +20~F, American friends.)

Thomas Ongstand writes:

>use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.

Here too.  The salt corrodes the rims badly, that's really the only part of
the bike I noticed was affected.  You can't ever get them back to the
original finish after the salt eats them.  But, you have to decide if you
have a bike for showin', or one for ridin'.  :-)

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:29:35 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Daniel MacKay <Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

Daniel MacKay wrote:

> Thomas Ongstand writes:
> 
> >use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.
> 
> Here too.  The salt corrodes the rims badly, that's really the only part of
> the bike I noticed was affected.  You can't ever get them back to the
> original finish after the salt eats them.  But, you have to decide if you
> have a bike for showin', or one for ridin'.  :-)
> 
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> Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada

Ow, Owwwwwwww.  Flamin is gettin hotttttt!

For showin and ridin, but not sliden'   :-)

TommyTeal
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95ACE (got to go)
97Pacific Coast 
98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
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From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com
          via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 4 Dec 1998 14:47:19 UT
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:33:10 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like

According to the Pacific Coast Europe web site they have a picture of a
silver '97. Where they are I do not know.

Seeing a real picture of one would be neat. (How about that little bit of
slang for you foreigners?)

Later
Roger R


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From: "Elton Hammond" <elton.hammond@ekho.com>
To: "Pat McNew" <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>,
        "Honda Pacific Coast Group" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 for Sale
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:36:49 -0500

Pat;

You did not say where the '96 PC800 is located.

Elton Hammond
'97 PC800
Ottawa, Canada
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From: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
To: Honda Pacific Coast Group <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: December 04, 1998 7:57 AM
Subject: PC800: PC800 for Sale


>Coasters,
>
>Below is a snip from a local PC rider that is not on the maillist.  She
>is wanting to sell her virtually new 1996.  The price looks low to me!
>Given that price and that Honda is stopping production, I wish I could
>buy it for a spare!  (The divorce would cost too much.)
>
>>Got a piece of bad news.  Do you know anyone looking for a '96 PC with
3300
>>miles on it?   Yeap, I'm selling mine.  Looking for around $4700, but,
>>that's negotiable.
>
>>Appreciate it if you could circulate this around.  I know when I sell it,
>>I'm going to miss it.
>
>>Gerita Milam
>>AE, Lucent Technologies
>>Voice: (770) 237-2627
>>Fax: (770) 237-9390
>>Email: geritam@lucent.com
>
>
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>Snellville, GA
>1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
>5800 (S)miles
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:53:13 -0400
To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like

At 8:33 AM -0600 12/4/98, Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com wrote:
>According to the Pacific Coast Europe web site they have a picture of a
>silver '97. Where they are I do not know.
>

You can see a picture on the PC800 web site, at

http://members.tripod.com/~pc800/images/pc80086.jpg


fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

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Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

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From: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
To: "Tosh Konya" <ttk@erinet.com>
Cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Kisan 
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:18:10 -0500

Supposedly, the PC (at least some of them) have some pretty wild electrical
inferference they generate at certain rpm levels.  Though this doesn't
effect the bike, it can cause havoc with sensitive electronic devices.  So,
yes, it is the fault of the device, but devices that work on other bikes
have particular problems on the PC.  Sooooo, we discriminating PC riders,
who like all of the modern conveniences and safety features, must wait
patiently as the developers redesign their products to handle our
electricly-noisy rides.  (Presumably, PC's aren't the only cycle's thus
afflicted.)

Kisan has been FANTASTIC in working with us.  They've already sent me one
new model of their modulator to try out, and don't want me to attempt to
send anything back until they try this new upcoming revision.  I praise them
for their true customer service, and for working with us to get the problem
resolved rather than just saying "tough luck....our product won't work on
your bike!".

So, that's the Saga of the Kisan Modulator in a nutshell.  Hopefully, a
happy ending is right around the corner.

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800

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From: Tosh Konya <ttk@erinet.com>
To: Steven R. Zweigart <des1@ntr.net>
Date: Thursday, 03 December 1998 20:13
Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Kisan


>
>
>
>
>> I'm looking forward to getting a working head lamp modulator from the
>> good folks at Kisan.  do you think that the revision of the circuit
boards
>> will contain circuitry which would be helpful for other electrical
>problems
>> inherent to the Pacific Coast?  I'd be curious to know exactly what it is
>> they are "curing."
>
>It sounds like a gimmick to me.  If someone's accessory doesn't work on a
PC
>the fault shouldn't be put on the bike.
>

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From: "Marcelo D'alessio" <mdales@mecon.ar>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:09:08 -0300



Hi, my name is Marcelo D'Alessio and I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina =
(Very South America). I have since 1997 a '89 Pacific Coast, and I'm =
very proud of it. I realy lives for my Pacific and usually organize some =
trips round South Am=E9rica.=20

Last year I' ve been in Miami beacouse I wanted to buy "some gifts" for =
my PC in Gable's.

I would like to know much about you all: What are the things that you =
love or hate from the PC.
I would appreciate if somebody can tell me if the fuel tank level =
indicator allways run OK. My indicator gets into the red part and I only =
can buy 11 Litres (I don't know how many gallons are they). Whith 11 =
litres I can run about 105 Miles.

Well, well, my apologizes for my rudimentary english, but as you all =
know, my mother tong is the spanish.

My regards and Thanks You all.


my e mail is  mdales@mecon.ar




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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:30:14 -0400
To: "Marcelo D'alessio" <mdales@mecon.ar>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

Marcelo:

Welcome, from the East Coast of Canada.

>I would appreciate if somebody can tell me if the fuel tank level indicator
>allways run OK.

This should be in the FAQ.  The PC's gas gauge is skewed.  When it says
half it really means a third, when it's at the beginning of reserve you're
about at a quarter.  You don't really run out of gas until it points to the
nozzle on the gas pump icon.  Check it out for yourself with an extra liter
of fuel in a Sigg fuel bottle in the trunk some time.

You (or someone) may want to make up a little calibration chart by going to
the garage at different gas guage pointer settings, filling up, and
recording that as a fraction of total capacity (less whatever reserve you
feel comfortable with.) and possibly marking the gas guage or just
remembering it.

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Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada


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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:45:37 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Merry Christmas!

Hi Dana,

dana sawyer wrote:

> >>Subject: White Christmas Humor
> >>
> >>Diary of a Snow Shoveler

 I don't care if it didn't have to do with motorcycles; I thought it was
hysterically funny.  Thanks for a good laugh.  Happy holidays!

--
Leland
'94 Pacific Coast
"Black Beauty"
120,000 miles




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From: "PCSG Ltd." <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Snow
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:42:55 -0000

Is there a retro-fittable 'Snow Mobile Conversion' for the PC800?
May be our Canadian friends know of such a conversion!  :-)

Here on the south coast of England it drops to sub-zero at night, but it
has been dry and 'ridable' during the day.

 
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> From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
> To: Daniel MacKay <Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca>
> Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
> Subject: Re: PC800: Snow
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 2:29 PM
> 
> Daniel MacKay wrote:
> 
> > Thomas Ongstand writes:
> > 
> > >use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.
> > 
> > Here too.  The salt corrodes the rims badly, that's really the only
part of
> > the bike I noticed was affected.  You can't ever get them back to the
> > original finish after the salt eats them.  But, you have to decide if
you
> > have a bike for showin', or one for ridin'.  :-)
> > 
> > --
> > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca
> > Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada
> 
> Ow, Owwwwwwww.  Flamin is gettin hotttttt!
> 
> For showin and ridin, but not sliden'   :-)
> 
> TommyTeal
> -- 
> 93SE (Teal, You Think?)
> 95Hannigan
> 95ACE (got to go)
> 97Pacific Coast 
> 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
> GWTA #6871
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:08:13 -0900
From: jgoula <jgoula@ims.uaf.edu>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

"PCSG Ltd." wrote:
> 
> Is there a retro-fittable 'Snow Mobile Conversion' for the PC800?
> May be our Canadian friends know of such a conversion!  :-)

In fact, I've been waiting for enough snow to start testing 
the prototype. I'll send pictures and a report when the
tests are completed. ;-)

-- 
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Fairbanks, Alaska
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A motorcycle can massage organs which no masseur can reach.
It is the one remedy for the disorders of the great sympathetic 
nervous system.
				Jean Cocteau
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University of Alaska Fairbanks	
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:25:10 -0500
Subject: PC800: Used PC800 Prices Spring 98
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

I don't know if any of you have been to this web site
(http://www.mcnews.com/articles/used.htm ) before, but this is a
lisitng of used motorcycle prices from Motorcycle Consumer News as
of Spring '98. I know we have talked about prices for Pacific
Coasts before, but I don't remember anyone posting this information.

Motorcycle Consumer News----------------------
The prices given are for the full retail value of a stock
motorcycle. This price best represents either a reconditioned or
clean, undamaged and well-maintained vehicle ready to be sold
publicly by a dealer or privately between individuals. You should,
however, remember that the value assigned is a national average and
may not completely reflect regional trends for certain vehicles.
The popularity, or lack thereof, of these models in your area may
affect their value either positively or negatively.

PC800 Pacific Coast
'97 - 6790
'96 - 6195
'95 - 5160
'94 - 4740
"93 -
'92 --
'91 -
'90 - 3890
'89 - 3590


Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Subject: Re: PC800: Snow
From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 12:27:26 -0700
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu


On Fri, Dec 4, 1998, 9:39:33 AM GMT a.m@wxs.nl wrote:


>BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
>bike and did you liked it.
>
>Yet i'm still glad i did not put my bike away for the winter i
>don't know if i think like wise when i'm going to drive home
>this afternoon.

Been there, done that.

Out here on the Pacific Coast (Bellingham Washington) the snow tends to be a
lot milder than inland (such as Michigan). Even when it does snow, it rarely
sticks to the roads during the day and often melts away within a day or so. I
have been caught in a flurry a couple of times while riding around town. Slush
isn't much of a problem as long as it isn't too deep, but once the snow starts
to pack on the road--park the bike. In either case it takes extreme caution to
navigate in the snow.

Since the snow rarely lasts more than a few days at a time out here, I don't
bother winterizing the bike because I'll just be right back on it in a few
days.

Greg Torok
97 PC800
Bellingham, WA
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:15:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John Scalisi <jscalisi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Based on the fact that we think it is a 1989 and the color isn't the
pearl white, the bike was probably repainted and maybe part of the VIN
plate got covered with new paint maybe.  Or maybe the bike was damaged
and repainted and the VIN plate got damaged.




---Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> At 10:48 AM +0200 12/3/98, Lohan Johnson wrote:
> >Hi cool people of the world
> >
> >A few people were quite interested in my serial number, but
> >unfortunately I couldn't find it behind the headlight on the frame as
> >some people pointed out. I will take off a cover or two and hunt it
> >down. On my insurer's record the number is RC341 000 170. This is
only
> >11 digits and not 17 as I believe it should be. I suppose this mean
that
> >I have a California model bike? And I still don't have any clue what
> >year it is!
> 
> Based on the RC341, yes that would indicate it is a California spec
model.
> The first 0 would indicate that it is a 1989 model year.  The full VIN
> would be helpful to confirm this.
> 
> Normally the sticker you are looking for should be easy to spot. It
would
> also show the date of manufacturer, which would help determine the
model
> year.
> 
> Get down low by the right side of the front wheel. Look up the right
fork
> until you see where it meets the head of the frame. On the side of the
> frame there should be a sticker or plate indicating the year, date of
> manufacture, etc.   The sticker would be at about the same height as
the
> headlight assembly, but further back along the bike.  It should be
really
> easy to spot, unless for some reason the sticker appears elsewhere
on your
> model for some country specific reason.
> 
> Yes....I'm really curious!
> 
> bye for now...
> 
> fsl
> 
> fsl
> 
> (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)
> 
> Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
> Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda
> 
>  	HSTA Member Number 7470
> 
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From: "Tosh Konya" <ttk@erinet.com>
To: "Marcelo D'alessio" <mdales@mecon.ar>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        "Daniel MacKay" <Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca>
Subject: PC800: PC800 fuel gauge 
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:20:21 -0800

>The PC's gas gauge is skewed...it says half it really means a third, when
> it's at the beginning of reserve you're about at a quarter.  You don't
really run
> out of gas until it points to the...

I just start looking for a gas station after I pass 160-170 miles.  If the
road is pretty desolate I stop for gas before 150 miles.  Trying to eek over
ounce of fuel from
the tank before stopping shouldn't be the goal.

We're having weird weather in western Ohio.  I've been riding to work
everyday, without having to wear a snowmobile suit or something similar.
They're predicting low 70s for tomorrow.

Just ride and have fun and don't worry about minor inaccuracies in the fuel
gauge!

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:50:32 -0400
To: "Marcelo D'alessio" <mdales@mecon.ar>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

At 3:09 PM -0300 12/4/98, Marcelo D'alessio wrote:
>     Hi, my name is Marcelo D'Alessio and  I live in Buenos Aires,
>Argentina (Very South America).


Hello Marcelo.  Don't apologize for your english. It is far better than my
spanish, but I'm going to give it a try anyhow!

Hola Marcelo!
Que pasa?   Hola de Canada, en el cuidad de Ottawa. Lo siento, pero mi
espanol no esta muy bien, porque yo no tengos amigos con practicar.

> I would appreciate if somebody can  tell me if the fuel tank level
>indicator allways run OK. My >indicator gets into  the red part and I only
>can buy 11 Litres (I don't know how many gallons are  >they). Whith 11
>litres I can run about 105 Miles.

El dep=F3sito de gasolina hace un capacidad des 16 litros, pero el gage de
gasolina no estan muy acertado. Cuando yo conducir mi PC800, esta necesidad
rellenar todos los 160-180 millas.

Did this make any sense?   It has been over 15 years since I have studied
any Spanish, and I have only used it a few times since then.
=20

Bye for now..

ride safe...

fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

=46rancois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 20:23:18 -0500
From: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
To: Honda Pacific Coast Group <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 for Sale

Elton Hammond wrote:
> 
> Pat;
> 
> You did not say where the '96 PC800 is located.
> 
> Elton Hammond
> '97 PC800
> Ottawa, Canada


The bike is in the Atlanta, GA area.


-- 
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1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
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From: "Covert" <rcovert@halcyon.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Used PC800 Prices Spring 98
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:33:13 -0800

Yes, I've seen these prices on MCN's page.  What I wonder about,  when close
out '98 models are going for around $6,300 +/- , is how realistic are these
prices?  For what it's worth the '97 models are listed at $6,100 in the
November issue of MCN.

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>
>PC800 Pacific Coast
>'97 - 6790
>'96 - 6195
>'95 - 5160
>'94 - 4740
>"93 -
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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:38:09 +1200
To: PC800 Rider <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
Subject: PC800: Re NZ trip article

I read a copy of the article. Seems its written by an Aussie. I didn't know
they could write. I knew they couldn't read - that's why their most popular
beer is called XXXX!!!

Actually its a pretty fair article. It's a bit between two stools as it is
half a bike story and half a travel story but basically a good article and
generally accurate. I spotted only two place names mis-spelt.

I personally know most of the roads in the article and I vouch that he
covered a mighty big chunk of territory.

He made one mistake. He should have started in the South Island as it is
more scenic. As it was he ran out of time and had to roar through the South
Island at a great rate of knots.

And someone should have told him that our limit is 100kph not 150kph.

He commented about the lack of cops. Not so nowadays, that was 1990. We
have snaeky speed cameras now and if he tried that trip again he'd end up
broke.

Worth a read. I just wish I could get 5,500 miles free use of a PC800 from
Honda.

Richard Proctor



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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:38:09 +1200
To: PC800 Rider <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
Subject: PC800: to buy or not to buy......

PC 800's are not thick upon the ground around here but I have been offered
one upon which I am pondering.

It was bought earlier this year by a 68 year old gent who laid it down it
in his driveway and gave himself the willies so he is selling it. It's done
6,000 miles

It is red & black and nominally a 1998 model. The serial # is
JH2RC3409WM600275.

What does that tell us beside it being a Californian model, and what does
that mean in practical terms, can anyone tell me?

Just re-read Leland Shephard's post so it would seem it is a '98 model,
therefore small front spats and no self-cancelling indicators

The damage done is apparently cosmetic, 4 body parts plus a bit of
paintwork, how paintwork much depends on how fussy you are.

I priced the parts at Rosewill Honda (?? I can't find the post that had
their ph # again).

They were: (US $$'s)
Standard screen  			$256.29
Trim strip below screen		$89.29
LH rear view mirror/indicator assembly	$225.70
FR crash bar trim cover		$150.59

These seem expensive. Any comments anyone.

The dealer wants NZ$9,500 =US$5,035.00 plus NZ$1,200 = US$636 for parts
plus touch-up.

Overall that seems like approx new price in the US without a new warranty
but less cost and hassle of shipping.

Given that it is a deleted model, it's winter, no self cancelling
indicators, ugly little front spats etc, does it seem a good buy compared
with US prices or is the to consensus keep hunting in the US for a cheaper
one and ship it out here.

Regards to all

Richard Proctor














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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:38:09 +1200
To: PC800 Rider <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
Subject: PC800: Self cancelling indicators

I like them a lot. Why did Honda do away with them does anyone know?

Is the lack of them sufficient reason to turn down a bike?

Can they be retrofitted?

Regards

Richard Proctor
PC800 hunter


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 03:10:36 +0100

>According to the Pacific Coast Europe web site they have a picture of a
>silver '97. Where they are I do not know.
>
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan1.htm
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan2.htm
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan3.htm
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan4.htm

>Seeing a real picture of one would be neat. (How about that little bit of
>slang for you foreigners?)
>
Heavy , dude... huh..huh...
Let's put another shrimp on the barby..... : )

>Later
>Roger R
>
Roger, Roger (Rabbit ?). Thx for the joke BTW. Nice, old, but nice...

Emile
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 21:30:46 -0500
From: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
To: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" <Bruce.Bednarski@gecapital.com>,
        "mashaw@mindspring.com" <mashaw@mindspring.com>,
        "Gordon B. Frank" <gfrank@ibm.net>,
        "T. Chadwick Burns" <tburns2@bellsouth.net>,
        Mary Jane Roddy <mjroddy@accessgenesis.net>,
        "Milam, Gerita S (Gerita)" <geritam@lucent.com>,
        "Contrada, Tony" <tony.contrada@worldspan.com>,
        "H.S. Brocker" <reinsman@email.msn.com>,
        Mike Sharkey <BROYLES1@ix.netcom.com>, Mark <M911dpd@aol.com>,
        Honda Pacific Coast Group <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Deals Gap in December

DEALS GAP -- BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!!

The weather forecast was for temps in the 70's and I wanted a touring
jacket, so.... Why not ride from Atlanta up to Waynesville Cycle, NC
where they had one of the Honda jackets in stock.

I left home the first time at 8:00.  I didn't get out of the
subdivision  before I decided long underwear was in order.  Everything
went pretty well until I got near the GA-NC state line.  I hit fog.  It
wasn't the visibility that bothered me.  The temperature dropped at
least 10 degrees.  I had on my thinsulate leather M/C gloves and a
leather jacket.  I was freezing! :( My feet, hands, well, just about
everything.  I stopped and put my jean jacket on over the leather jacket
and put my unlined gloves on over the others.  After another 10 miles I
spotted a Wal-Mart!  I bought a six pack of socks and doubled up.  I
also picked up a pair of thick insulated nylon gloves.  Much better
thank you :)

Pulled into Waynesville about 11:30, 150 miles.  The guys there are
great.  I met Wanda who had taken my mail orders for my tall windshield
and back rest.  I went a little crazy in the "toy store."  I bought the
following:
						MSRP	Paid
	A Honda Tour Jacket Red and Black 	269.95	209.85
	Spartan insulated bib pants		97.95	75.76
	A red Fulmer AF-300 full face helmet	119.95	88.14

I won't be cold anymore!  The helmet really fits me well.  It even has
room for my nose, unlike some I have tried on.  The color matches Rose
perfectly.  BTW both of my full face helmets are MUCH noisier than my
open face.  I see why you guys have been talking about ear plugs.

I put all my new stuff on and stowed the old in the trunk and headed for
Deal's Gap!  It was about 50-60 miles away.  By the way NC 28 from US 74
to Fontana Village and to the start of the Dragon is a lot of fun, too. 
I stopped and bought gas in Fontana at the station that vacuumed the
rice out of my car 31 years ago on my honeymoon.

I stopped at the Deals Gap M/C campground at NC 28 and US 129.  They
were closed for the season.  I had to shed some layers.  I went around
behind their above ground gas tank and took off the long underwear and
my 3rd shirt.  Boy that new bib and jacket are warm!  (I had just gotten
my jeans back on when two good ole boys pulling a bass boat pulled up to
the pumps and asked if we were open.)

Then it was through the 300 plus turns of the Dragon.  What a trip.  Not
a great deal of elevation change, but lots of turns!  The locals must
know about motorcycles and the Dragon because several of them pulled
over and let me by.  I turned around on the Tennessee side and rode back
through.  This time I got behind two younguns in a Chevy truck.  They
were flying.  There are no passing lanes and besides they were going as
fast as I wanted to go.  I just followed them back to NC 28.  Of course,
I did push them hard enough to take @5000 miles off their tires. 
(squealing on every turn!) WHEEE!

I came on back to GA on US 129 to Gainesville and the interstates to
home.  A total of 424 miles.  Have I ever mentioned how much I love this
bike? :)

-- 
Pat McNew
Snellville, GA
1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
6250 (S)miles

P.S.  Waynesville is a great place to order Honda factory stuff and
iother accessories at discount prices.  The people there are friendly
and helpful.  They also discount everything nicely.  (800) 438-7021
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 21:47:28 -0500
From: Jason Leroux <dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu>
Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hello PC riders. Recently purchased my first real motorcycle ( had a
Honda Scooter previously ). Proud owner of a '90 PC with 35000 miles. I
have some questions;
1. Where can I find a reasonably priced and effective cover?
2. Do the trunks usually leak a little? Mine does. Any remedies?
3. Are there sources for 2nd hand replacement body parts w/o going to
the dealer?
4. Anybody looking for a riding partner in central NC?!?
I'm lovin' the new ride!

Jason,
Durham, NC
'90 PC800

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:15:41 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......
To: rproctor@clear.net.nz
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

rproctor@clear.net.nz writes:
>The dealer wants NZ$9,500 =US$5,035.00 plus NZ$1,200 = US$636 for
>parts
>plus touch-up.

I think $5,671 US for a '98 is a good deal if the person doing the
fix up is competent. I would hope it was checked over to make sure
the damage was only cosmetic, plus the damaged parts. I don't know
how much it would cost to ship a Pacific Coast from the US, but I
would guess it would cost quite a bit.

If it truly is a 1998 model I would think the balance of the 3 year
warranty would still be in effect unless there is some loop hole
pertaining to a bike outside the US.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:22:41 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: Self cancelling indicators
To: rproctor@clear.net.nz
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

rproctor@clear.net.nz writes:
>I like them a lot. Why did Honda do away with them does anyone
>know?
>
>Is the lack of them sufficient reason to turn down a bike?
>
>Can they be retrofitted?
>
>Regards
>
>Richard Proctor
>PC800 hunter

I had self canceling signals on a Yamaha I had and I don't really
miss them on the PC800. I was always resetting the foolish thing
because I rolled too far before turning after I activated them.
Definitely not a good reason to turn down a good deal on a PC800.
You can buy a self canceling add on kit from Kriss (www.kriss.com)
$99.95 US

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

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HSTA #8387

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 20:57:56 -0800
To: a.m@wxs.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Greg Chambers <gpchambers@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

At 10:39 AM 12/4/98 +0100, a.m@wxs.nl wrote:
>Hi List.
>
>BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
>bike and did you liked it. 
>
Here in Southern California we think twice before riding in the rain or
below 50 degrees (10 degrees celcius).  I like to think of us as spoiled
rather than having no courage.  I once ended up on a patch of snow
unexpectedly (well, sort of), and turning the bike around to head back down
the mountain was not a pleasant experience.  I think I'll stay here.  

Greg Chambers

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 21:00:57 -0800
To: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>,
        Honda Pacific Coast Group <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Greg Chambers <gpchambers@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 for Sale

I hope that's a great price.  I've got a 96 with 13,000 miles that's about
to go on sale (I bought a Gold Wing).  

Greg Chambers
Los Angeles

At 07:54 AM 12/4/98 -0500, Pat McNew wrote:
>Coasters,
>
>Below is a snip from a local PC rider that is not on the maillist.  She
>is wanting to sell her virtually new 1996.  The price looks low to me! 
>Given that price and that Honda is stopping production, I wish I could
>buy it for a spare!  (The divorce would cost too much.)
>
>>Got a piece of bad news.  Do you know anyone looking for a '96 PC with 3300
>>miles on it?   Yeap, I'm selling mine.  Looking for around $4700, but,
>>that's negotiable.  
>
>>Appreciate it if you could circulate this around.  I know when I sell it,
>>I'm going to miss it.
>
>>Gerita Milam
>>AE, Lucent Technologies
>>Voice: (770) 237-2627
>>Fax: (770) 237-9390
>>Email: geritam@lucent.com
>
>
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>1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 08:04:04 -0500
From: Roger Prince <roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com>
To: gwta@voyager.net
Cc: PC800 Mail List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Snow

Just leave the Battery Tender pigtail on the bike and connect the battery
tender.  I switch the Battery Tender between bikes every week or two.  You
can buy additional pigtails from the Battery Tender company.  Each bike has
its own.

Roger Prince

Thomas Ongstad wrote:

> a.m@wxs.nl wrote:
>
> > BTW. Does anyone else drove in the snow before with his or hers
> > bike and did you liked it.
> >
> > Yet i'm still glad i did not put my bike away for the winter i
> > don't know if i think like wise when i'm going to drive home
> > this afternoon.
> >
> > Keep up The PC Driving.
> >
> > Arjan Andriessen
> > PC 800 '89
> > Skippy bike
>
> Yeow,  Nope,  No snow riding for this boy.  I have a hard enough time
> keeping the truck out of the ditch with all four wheels.  Plus here in
> Michigan, they use a ton of salt.  A big NO-NO for motorcycles.  I have
> heard stories and seen bikes for myself that are used year round and how
> the salt just corrodes everything it touches.  And with all the damn
> nooks and crannies that each bike has, no thanks in trying to clean it.
>
> Just filled up the bike last night (@ 85.9 cents per gallon, thank you
> very much) and put in the Sta-bil.  Time to take the battery out next.
>
> Should I bother with taking the battery out or should I just hook up a
> charger?  I read all the terrible stories about how hard it is to get
> too and I wonder which way I should go?  The bike will be kept in an
> attached, but unheated garage.  How long does it take to take the
> battery out?
>
> Thanks much
>
> TommyTeal
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> 95Hannigan
> 95ACE (got to go)
> 97Pacific Coast
> 98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 07:46:09 -0500
From: Scot Piper <scotp1965@mdn.net>
To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Nice ride in MI

I rode 200 miles yesterday in MI.  Up F-97 to F-28 and past Clear Lake.
Gorgeous ride.  Maybe the last of the season.  About 9500 miles for this
season.  Hoping to do a trip around Lake Superior next summer, and visit
one of the motorcycle rallys.

BTW, I still have my original 75W Kisan headlight modulator in.  It
works fine except it modulates at night - sometimes.  I've noticed after
a long ride, it turns off at night.  But if I get up early and ride when
it's still dark, it modulates.  Make sense?  Not to me either.  But I'm
leaving it in and just riding on low beam at night.  

Scot Piper
Midland, MI
'89 PC800
21,600 miles (should I put a stator on my Christmas list?)
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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: FW: PC800: PC800 for Sale
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:17:12 -0500

That sounds to me like a great price. Here's another reference point. One of the local Honda dealers has this bike on the floor:

90 PC800
2,800 miles
Kenwood Radio
Showroom condition
$4,500 (neg)

Anyone interested can contact:
Jim's Motorcycle Sales
Kingsport, TN
(423)247-1211

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From:	Pat McNew [SMTP:pmcnew@bellsouth.net]
Sent:	Friday, December 04, 1998 7:55 AM
To:	Honda Pacific Coast Group
Subject:	PC800: PC800 for Sale

Coasters,

Below is a snip from a local PC rider that is not on the maillist.  She
is wanting to sell her virtually new 1996.  The price looks low to me! 
Given that price and that Honda is stopping production, I wish I could
buy it for a spare!  (The divorce would cost too much.)

>Got a piece of bad news.  Do you know anyone looking for a '96 PC with 3300
>miles on it?   Yeap, I'm selling mine.  Looking for around $4700, but,
>that's negotiable.  

>Appreciate it if you could circulate this around.  I know when I sell it,
>I'm going to miss it.

>Gerita Milam
>AE, Lucent Technologies
>Voice: (770) 237-2627
>Fax: (770) 237-9390
>Email: geritam@lucent.com


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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: FW: PC800: Snow
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:32:12 -0500

Daniel Mackay wrote:
>my opinion the PC is really not built for low-traction conditions

Absolutely, for all it's wonderful attributes, the PC is the WORST =
motorcycle I've ever ridden in low traction conditions (gravel, dirt, =
grass, etc).Of course, it's also the heaviest I've ever ridden on those =
surfaces. I've wouldn't even think of moving it on snow. I have ridden =
other motorcycles on snow and although I don't recommend it, lighter =
motorcycles are much easier to handle than the 620 lb PC. If you get it =
leaned over too far, the front wheel will push out from under you =
causing a loss of steering control and eventually a low speed dump. IMO =
when riding on snow (or other very low traction surfaces) you must be =
able to push the bike up with with a foot dab occsaionally because you =
can't depend on the normal "physics" to keep you upright.The PC is too =
heavy (and too expensive to repair) for most people to do that.

Jim Randall
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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: FW: Re:PC800: Kisan 
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:48:01 -0500

It shouldn't be too hard for someone with the right skills (Peter Noeth =
are you listenting?) to design an inline filter/voltage regulator to =
miniminze electrical problems. If something like that were available, =
you could just plug all your electronics in "downstream".

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From:	Steven R. Zweigart [SMTP:des1@ntr.net]
Sent:	Friday, December 04, 1998 10:18 AM
To:	Tosh Konya
Cc:	'PC800 Mailing List'
Subject:	Re: Re:PC800: Kisan=20

Supposedly, the PC (at least some of them) have some pretty wild =
electrical
inferference they generate at certain rpm levels.  Though this doesn't
effect the bike, it can cause havoc with sensitive electronic devices.  =
So,
yes, it is the fault of the device, but devices that work on other bikes
have particular problems on the PC.  Sooooo, we discriminating PC =
riders,
who like all of the modern conveniences and safety features, must wait
patiently as the developers redesign their products to handle our
electricly-noisy rides.  (Presumably, PC's aren't the only cycle's thus
afflicted.)

Kisan has been FANTASTIC in working with us.  They've already sent me =
one
new model of their modulator to try out, and don't want me to attempt to
send anything back until they try this new upcoming revision.  I praise =
them
for their true customer service, and for working with us to get the =
problem
resolved rather than just saying "tough luck....our product won't work =
on
your bike!".

So, that's the Saga of the Kisan Modulator in a nutshell.  Hopefully, a
happy ending is right around the corner.

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800

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From: Tosh Konya <ttk@erinet.com>
To: Steven R. Zweigart <des1@ntr.net>
Date: Thursday, 03 December 1998 20:13
Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Kisan


>
>
>
>
>> I'm looking forward to getting a working head lamp modulator from the
>> good folks at Kisan.  do you think that the revision of the circuit
boards
>> will contain circuitry which would be helpful for other electrical
>problems
>> inherent to the Pacific Coast?  I'd be curious to know exactly what =
it is
>> they are "curing."
>
>It sounds like a gimmick to me.  If someone's accessory doesn't work on =
a
PC
>the fault shouldn't be put on the bike.
>

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:33:09 -0600
Subject: PC800: PC800 Electrical noise and other foolishness...
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

What rare and exotic noise or voltage excursions does a PC present that
other three phase charging systems present? Can't believe there could be
any not already encountered by designers over the past forty years with
this type of system (as verses the DC generator.) I have had my
oscilloscope on Monica and find no rare and exotic displays.

The difference of application may be in faulty grounding etc. Which is
not the product of erratic generation per se. If and only if the wiring
harness is in good repair rather than with corroded connections etc. It
would suffice to put a 1000 Mfd. capacitor in the charging system.
Consider installing up front behind the head light.  The battery is
already a huge capacitor filter.  Most of these product designers will
pull up short on components by falling into the what - if -cost program. 
What if we sell 85000000 of these and we put an extra 27 cents in parts
that were marginally required? I am glad that you are having a good
customer relationship but the very best customer relationship is when a
product is mature enough in design and application as to require no
customer service.

Keep your powder dry and your power clean.

CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 11:38:52 -0700
From: Bob Coffman <bcoffman@uswest.net>
To: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
CC: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" <Bruce.Bednarski@gecapital.com>,
        "mashaw@mindspring.com" <mashaw@mindspring.com>,
        "Gordon B. Frank" <gfrank@ibm.net>,
        "T. Chadwick Burns" <tburns2@bellsouth.net>,
        Mary Jane Roddy <mjroddy@accessgenesis.net>,
        "Milam, Gerita S (Gerita)" <geritam@lucent.com>,
        "Contrada, Tony" <tony.contrada@worldspan.com>,
        "H.S. Brocker" <reinsman@email.msn.com>,
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Subject: Re: PC800: Deals Gap in December


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Thanks Pat, for the inspirational story.  I appreciate your enthusiasium.  I
needed that.  It's a dire saturday here in the desert, and our usual warm
upper 60's & 70's weather has turned a december-like mid 50's high.  I guess
I'll have to zip  my polarfleece liner in to my First Gear "Kenya" jacket.
I seriously admire you guys who deal with real winter, and maintain your
enthusiasm to ride.  The PC really is the most civilized mc I've ever owned.

Thanks again,
Bob

Pat McNew wrote:

> DEALS GAP -- BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!!
>
> The weather forecast was for temps in the 70's and I wanted a touring
> jacket, so.... Why not ride from Atlanta up to Waynesville Cycle, NC
> where they had one of the Honda jackets in stock.
>
> I left home the first time at 8:00.  I didn't get out of the
> subdivision  before I decided long underwear was in order.  Everything
> went pretty well until I got near the GA-NC state line.  I hit fog.  It
> wasn't the visibility that bothered me.  The temperature dropped at
> least 10 degrees.  I had on my thinsulate leather M/C gloves and a
> leather jacket.  I was freezing! :( My feet, hands, well, just about
> everything.  I stopped and put my jean jacket on over the leather jacket
> and put my unlined gloves on over the others.  After another 10 miles I
> spotted a Wal-Mart!  I bought a six pack of socks and doubled up.  I
> also picked up a pair of thick insulated nylon gloves.  Much better
> thank you :)
>
> Pulled into Waynesville about 11:30, 150 miles.  The guys there are
> great.  I met Wanda who had taken my mail orders for my tall windshield
> and back rest.  I went a little crazy in the "toy store."  I bought the
> following:
>                                                 MSRP    Paid
>         A Honda Tour Jacket Red and Black       269.95  209.85
>         Spartan insulated bib pants             97.95   75.76
>         A red Fulmer AF-300 full face helmet    119.95  88.14
>
> I won't be cold anymore!  The helmet really fits me well.  It even has
> room for my nose, unlike some I have tried on.  The color matches Rose
> perfectly.  BTW both of my full face helmets are MUCH noisier than my
> open face.  I see why you guys have been talking about ear plugs.
>
> I put all my new stuff on and stowed the old in the trunk and headed for
> Deal's Gap!  It was about 50-60 miles away.  By the way NC 28 from US 74
> to Fontana Village and to the start of the Dragon is a lot of fun, too.
> I stopped and bought gas in Fontana at the station that vacuumed the
> rice out of my car 31 years ago on my honeymoon.
>
> I stopped at the Deals Gap M/C campground at NC 28 and US 129.  They
> were closed for the season.  I had to shed some layers.  I went around
> behind their above ground gas tank and took off the long underwear and
> my 3rd shirt.  Boy that new bib and jacket are warm!  (I had just gotten
> my jeans back on when two good ole boys pulling a bass boat pulled up to
> the pumps and asked if we were open.)
>
> Then it was through the 300 plus turns of the Dragon.  What a trip.  Not
> a great deal of elevation change, but lots of turns!  The locals must
> know about motorcycles and the Dragon because several of them pulled
> over and let me by.  I turned around on the Tennessee side and rode back
> through.  This time I got behind two younguns in a Chevy truck.  They
> were flying.  There are no passing lanes and besides they were going as
> fast as I wanted to go.  I just followed them back to NC 28.  Of course,
> I did push them hard enough to take @5000 miles off their tires.
> (squealing on every turn!) WHEEE!
>
> I came on back to GA on US 129 to Gainesville and the interstates to
> home.  A total of 424 miles.  Have I ever mentioned how much I love this
> bike? :)
>
> --
> Pat McNew
> Snellville, GA
> 1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
> 6250 (S)miles
>
> P.S.  Waynesville is a great place to order Honda factory stuff and
> iother accessories at discount prices.  The people there are friendly
> and helpful.  They also discount everything nicely.  (800) 438-7021
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<HTML>
Thanks Pat, for the inspirational story.&nbsp; I appreciate your enthusiasium.&nbsp;
I needed that.&nbsp; It's a dire saturday here in the desert, and our usual
warm upper 60's &amp; 70's weather has turned a december-like mid 50's
high.&nbsp; I guess I'll have to zip&nbsp; my polarfleece liner in to my<I>
First Gear</I> "Kenya" jacket.&nbsp; I seriously admire you guys who deal
with real winter, and maintain your enthusiasm to ride.&nbsp; The PC really
is the most civilized mc I've ever owned.
<BR>Thanks again,
<BR>Bob
<P>Pat McNew wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>DEALS GAP -- BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!!
<P>The weather forecast was for temps in the 70's and I wanted a touring
<BR>jacket, so.... Why not ride from Atlanta up to Waynesville Cycle, NC
<BR>where they had one of the Honda jackets in stock.
<P>I left home the first time at 8:00.&nbsp; I didn't get out of the
<BR>subdivision&nbsp; before I decided long underwear was in order.&nbsp;
Everything
<BR>went pretty well until I got near the GA-NC state line.&nbsp; I hit
fog.&nbsp; It
<BR>wasn't the visibility that bothered me.&nbsp; The temperature dropped
at
<BR>least 10 degrees.&nbsp; I had on my thinsulate leather M/C gloves and
a
<BR>leather jacket.&nbsp; I was freezing! :( My feet, hands, well, just
about
<BR>everything.&nbsp; I stopped and put my jean jacket on over the leather
jacket
<BR>and put my unlined gloves on over the others.&nbsp; After another 10
miles I
<BR>spotted a Wal-Mart!&nbsp; I bought a six pack of socks and doubled
up.&nbsp; I
<BR>also picked up a pair of thick insulated nylon gloves.&nbsp; Much better
<BR>thank you :)
<P>Pulled into Waynesville about 11:30, 150 miles.&nbsp; The guys there
are
<BR>great.&nbsp; I met Wanda who had taken my mail orders for my tall windshield
<BR>and back rest.&nbsp; I went a little crazy in the "toy store."&nbsp;
I bought the
<BR>following:
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
MSRP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Paid
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A Honda Tour Jacket Red
and Black&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 269.95&nbsp; 209.85
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spartan insulated bib pants&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
97.95&nbsp;&nbsp; 75.76
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A red Fulmer AF-300 full
face helmet&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 119.95&nbsp; 88.14
<P>I won't be cold anymore!&nbsp; The helmet really fits me well.&nbsp;
It even has
<BR>room for my nose, unlike some I have tried on.&nbsp; The color matches
Rose
<BR>perfectly.&nbsp; BTW both of my full face helmets are MUCH noisier
than my
<BR>open face.&nbsp; I see why you guys have been talking about ear plugs.
<P>I put all my new stuff on and stowed the old in the trunk and headed
for
<BR>Deal's Gap!&nbsp; It was about 50-60 miles away.&nbsp; By the way NC
28 from US 74
<BR>to Fontana Village and to the start of the Dragon is a lot of fun,
too.
<BR>I stopped and bought gas in Fontana at the station that vacuumed the
<BR>rice out of my car 31 years ago on my honeymoon.
<P>I stopped at the Deals Gap M/C campground at NC 28 and US 129.&nbsp;
They
<BR>were closed for the season.&nbsp; I had to shed some layers.&nbsp;
I went around
<BR>behind their above ground gas tank and took off the long underwear
and
<BR>my 3rd shirt.&nbsp; Boy that new bib and jacket are warm!&nbsp; (I
had just gotten
<BR>my jeans back on when two good ole boys pulling a bass boat pulled
up to
<BR>the pumps and asked if we were open.)
<P>Then it was through the 300 plus turns of the Dragon.&nbsp; What a trip.&nbsp;
Not
<BR>a great deal of elevation change, but lots of turns!&nbsp; The locals
must
<BR>know about motorcycles and the Dragon because several of them pulled
<BR>over and let me by.&nbsp; I turned around on the Tennessee side and
rode back
<BR>through.&nbsp; This time I got behind two younguns in a Chevy truck.&nbsp;
They
<BR>were flying.&nbsp; There are no passing lanes and besides they were
going as
<BR>fast as I wanted to go.&nbsp; I just followed them back to NC 28.&nbsp;
Of course,
<BR>I did push them hard enough to take @5000 miles off their tires.
<BR>(squealing on every turn!) WHEEE!
<P>I came on back to GA on US 129 to Gainesville and the interstates to
<BR>home.&nbsp; A total of 424 miles.&nbsp; Have I ever mentioned how much
I love this
<BR>bike? :)
<P>--
<BR>Pat McNew
<BR>Snellville, GA
<BR>1996 PC800 - Ramblin' Rose
<BR>6250 (S)miles
<P>P.S.&nbsp; Waynesville is a great place to order Honda factory stuff
and
<BR>iother accessories at discount prices.&nbsp; The people there are friendly
<BR>and helpful.&nbsp; They also discount everything nicely.&nbsp; (800)
438-7021
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From: "PCSG Ltd." <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 fuel gauge 
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:08:09 -0000

I just bought a 1 Litre Fuel Container from a Camping Shop to carry some
spare fuel.
It is takes up very little space in the trunk.  Now I feel brave enough to
eek out some more miles between fill ups.

Job
Sussex
England
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> From: Tosh Konya <ttk@erinet.com>
> To: Marcelo D'alessio <mdales@mecon.ar>; pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Daniel MacKay
<Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca>
> Subject: PC800: PC800 fuel gauge 
> Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 12:20 AM
> 
> >The PC's gas gauge is skewed...it says half it really means a third,
when
> > it's at the beginning of reserve you're about at a quarter.  You don't
> really run
> > out of gas until it points to the...
> 
> I just start looking for a gas station after I pass 160-170 miles.  If
the
> road is pretty desolate I stop for gas before 150 miles.  Trying to eek
over
> ounce of fuel from
> the tank before stopping shouldn't be the goal.
> 
> We're having weird weather in western Ohio.  I've been riding to work
> everyday, without having to wear a snowmobile suit or something similar.
> They're predicting low 70s for tomorrow.
> 
> Just ride and have fun and don't worry about minor inaccuracies in the
fuel
> gauge!
> 
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:27:21 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like

Hi Emile,

Emile Nossin wrote:

> >According to the Pacific Coast Europe web site they have a picture of a
> >silver '97. Where they are I do not know.
> >
> http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan1.htm
> http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan2.htm
> http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan3.htm
> http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan4.htm

Thanks for showing us the pictures.  I think that's a great color combination
and if I decide to repaint mine, I think that's the color combination I will
choose...

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 11:11:02 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Jason Leroux <dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu>
CC: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

Hi Jason,

Jason Leroux wrote:

> Hello PC riders. Recently purchased my first real motorcycle ( had a
> Honda Scooter previously ). Proud owner of a '90 PC with 35000 miles. I
> have some questions;

Welcome to the ranks of Pacific Coast owners.  It's a great bike.

> 1. Where can I find a reasonably priced and effective cover?

I gave up on covers because, in the wind, they were taking the paint off
the bike.  I now leave the bike in the open at work and park it in a steel
storage building I built for the bike at home.

> 2. Do the trunks usually leak a little? Mine does. Any remedies?

The only water I get in mine is in the center around the latch.  It doesn't
actually leak down into the trunk(s).  Are you seeing leakage down in the
trunks themselves?

> 3. Are there sources for 2nd hand replacement body parts w/o going to
> the dealer?

Salvage dealers, probably, but I've not looked.

> 4. Anybody looking for a riding partner in central NC?!?
> I'm lovin' the new ride!

I'm betting you will find some takers on this list...

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"Black Beauty"
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:58:36 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: "Marcelo D'alessio" <mdales@mecon.ar>
CC: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

Hi Marcelo,

Marcelo D'alessio wrote:

>  Hi, my name is Marcelo D'Alessio and I live in Buenos Aires,
> Argentina (Very South America). I have since 1997 a '89 Pacific Coast,
> and I'm very proud of it. I realy lives for my Pacific and usually
> organize some trips round South América.
> You are the first person from South America that I have seen here.
> Welcome.
>  I would like to know much about you all: What are the things that you
> love or hate from the PC.I would appreciate if somebody can tell me if
> the fuel tank level indicator allways run OK. My indicator gets into
> the red part and I only can buy 11 Litres (I don't know how many
> gallons are they). Whith 11 litres I can run about 105 Miles.
>
> I love just about everything about my Pacific Coast.
>
> My fuel gauge is very consistent.  It has to be because I run my PC
> for 80 miles after I reach the bottom of the white line.  My average
> fill-up is almost 4 gallons (3.785 litres per US gallon as I recall).
> If you are buying 11 litres, you have 5 left.  My experience is that
> virtually all of the 16 litre capacity can be used without running out
> of gas if you fill the tank all the way to the top.  But if you decide
> to experiment with it, you might want to carry a small can of gas with
> you until you are sure that your gauge is also consistent.
>  Well, well, my apologizes for my rudimentary english, but as you all
> know, my mother tong is the spanish.

I wish my Spanish were as good as your English is...  You certainly
don't need to apologize!

--
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'94 Pacific Coast
"Black Beauty"
120,000 miles




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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:08:09 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Self cancelling indicators

Hi Richard,

Richard Proctor wrote:

> I like them a lot. Why did Honda do away with them does anyone know?
>

Probably cost or lack of effectiveness for the cost (same argument, I
guess).

> Is the lack of them sufficient reason to turn down a bike?
>

I don't think so.

> Can they be retrofitted?

There were several sensors involved, I believe.  Probably not worth the
cost to try.

FWIW...

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"Black Beauty"
120,000 miles



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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:04:51 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
CC: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......

Hi Richard,

Richard Proctor wrote:

> PC 800's are not thick upon the ground around here but I have been offered
> one upon which I am pondering.
>
> It was bought earlier this year by a 68 year old gent who laid it down it
> in his driveway and gave himself the willies so he is selling it. It's done
> 6,000 miles

Did he literally tip over in the driveway?   I've done that severaltimes
without the amount of damage you describe.  I popped a mirror
the last time but the marks on it were negligible and I just remounted
the breakaway stuff and it's as good as new (almost).   The only other
damage I've seen was on the crash bar covers and it is so minimal that
I'm not even bothering with it; i.e., they are surface scratches.

The one time my windshield became involved was when the PC tipped over
against the door of my car in the driveway.   There were a couple of
superficial scratches on the upper corner of the shield which I can't even
find anymore...

FWIW...

> It is red & black and nominally a 1998 model. The serial # is
> JH2RC3409WM600275.

JH2RC3409WM600275 figures out to:

JH2          (J)apan (H)onda 2.. Honda motorcycle built in Japan.
RC340        PC800 built for the 49 states (California models are "RC341")
9            VIN check number (hope it checks!)
W           don't remember what this was
M            Manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan
6            1998 model
00275        275th bike off the line


> What does that tell us beside it being a Californian model, and what does
> that mean in practical terms, can anyone tell me?

See above.

> The damage done is apparently cosmetic, 4 body parts plus a bit of
> paintwork, how paintwork much depends on how fussy you are.
>

See above.

> I priced the parts at Rosewill Honda (?? I can't find the post that had
> their ph # again).

Roseville Honda/Kawasaki.  (916) 782-2171.

> They were: (US $$'s)
> Standard screen                         $256.29  (sounds too high; thought it
> was $189).
> Trim strip below screen         $89.29
> LH rear view mirror/indicator assembly  $225.70  (wow!)
> FR crash bar trim cover         $150.59
>
> These seem expensive. Any comments anyone.

Honda parts are always expensive, in my experience, but of very good quality.
The windshield price sounds too high, though.

You might try Lamb's Honda/Yamaha in Auburn California. (530) 885-7105  Also, I
have heard on this list that Honda of Milpitas has good prices.  They are here
in California too and have a web presence;  you can contact them at:

http://www.boulevards.com/billboards/honda/


> The dealer wants NZ$9,500 =US$5,035.00 plus NZ$1,200 = US$636 for parts
> plus touch-up.
>
> Overall that seems like approx new price in the US without a new warranty
> but less cost and hassle of shipping.
>

New US was about $6300, I think.  Don't know what shipping would be.  Is the
Honda three year, unlimited mileage warranty non-transferrable?

> Given that it is a deleted model, it's winter, no self cancelling
> indicators, ugly little front spats etc, does it seem a good buy compared
> with US prices or is the to consensus keep hunting in the US for a cheaper
> one and ship it out here.
>

One person on this list went to the trouble of putting on the full wheel covers
and spent about $1000 to do it.  FWIW...

If he literally dropped it when standing still, the damage should really be
superficial.  In that case, the bike might be just fine.  Bird in hand and all
that sort of thing...  6000 miles is nothing on this bike; barely broken in!

--
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"Black Beauty"
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:02:52 +0100

>> http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/duncan2.htm
>Thanks for showing us the pictures.  I think that's a great color combination
>and if I decide to repaint mine, I think that's the color combination I will
>choose...
>Leland
>
Did you see the other combinations possible, Leland ?
- Light (french) blue : http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/french-blue.htm
- Darkblue:  http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/blue-2.htm
- Teal:  http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/teal2.htm
- Teal: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/teal1.htm
- Yellow: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/yellow.htm
- Red with white flames: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/flame.htm

I would like to see a PC in dark racing green. I think that would be nice.
Woodtrim, beige leather seat covering, you know.. 'Jag' style.
Anybody on the list with money to burn ? : ))

Emile '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman"
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From: "Tosh Konya" <ttk@erinet.com>
To: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>, "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: non-standard PC800 colors
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:59:15 -0800

>I would like to see a PC in dark racing green. I think that would be nice.
>Woodtrim, beige leather seat covering, you know.. 'Jag' style.


Let's see...we should also fit Amal carburetors to complete the
transformation.  A day after repainting the PC, it would be hard to start,
would ooze oil from all seams, and the engine would begin to misfire at a
the sight of a small puddle of water!

It's a strangely warm December in the eastern US and I'm still riding my PC,
while wearing "non-winter" riding gear.  Well it's looks like I'll be able
to keep riding for at least another few days before winter arrives.

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 00:02:08 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu (Jason Leroux)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List serve)

Another question from the 'Rookie Rider'. What product is recommended
for removing crud and discoloration from alloy wheels? And is it
considered 'taboo' to re-paint a PC800 in a non-stock
color, eg. dark green?
Thanks!
jason

   
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 01:52:19 -0400
To: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......
Cc: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>



Richard Proctor.......

In researching the price for Honda parts to fix up that PC800 that was
dropped in the driveway, save a few dollars and don't replace the stock
Honda shield.  There are two aftermarket choices available, both of which
are cheaper and better. They are from Rifle and Clearview.   I have the
Clearview on my PC800, and there are several very satisfied Rifle shield
owners on this list as well.


Good luck....

fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)


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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 05:47:27 -0500
From: dana sawyer <Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com>
Subject: PC800: The Perfect Retirement Gift
To: Andrew Goldfine <74544.323@compuserve.com>,
        HondaPacificCoastOwners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        Chuck Drew <cdrew@mail.arc.nasa.gov>,
        HSTA Postings to List <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>

Ed Carter, a Columbia, S.C. resident and HSTA member, recently retired as=

news anchor at WIS-TV, our quality TV station here in Columbia. He is our=

equivalent of Tom Brokaw...a top quality news announcer, for sure, and
enjoys riding long distances on his Honda ST-1100, When asked by the TV
station execs what he wanted as a retirement gift, Ed replied without
hesitation, "an "Aerostich suit." They had no idea what an Aerostich suit=

was, but  found out in a hurry when Ed produced one of Andy Goldfine's
catalogs! That's exactly what he got...a nifty one-piece gray Aerostich
suit with black ballistic pads! And...he's really smiling these days! He
has a trip to the Pacific Northwest planned for next summer. Have fun,
Ed...you've earned it!

Dana

P.S. To Chuck Drew - for possible inclusion in an upcoming STAReview...
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Date: 	Sun, 06 Dec 1998 16:19:21 -0500
From: Joe Beresford <cableguy@no.one.net>
To: David@Shumaker.com
CC: PacificCoastOwnersList <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/kd7yd/corel.jpg

I found that one some time ago.............see
http://w3.one.net/~cableguy/motorcycle.htm


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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:02:04 -0500
Subject: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

I've been gone for 7 hours and only one posting here! Either you
are all out doing your Christmas shopping, or you had weather as
great as I had today. Temperature around 65 F (18 C) and an
overcast sky made it easy to put another 210 miles (338 km) on my
trusty Pacific Coast going no where in New York State today. I
didn't even have to plug in my Gerbing's jacket. The lining kept me
warm all by itself. Actually I headed down US 20 toward Albany
until I got bored, then south toward the Catskill mountains to try
to get some windy, twisties in on this great day. I never quite
made it to the actual mountains but the foothills provided plenty
of good riding.

In addition to the good roads I also found a wonderful restaurant
with a Sunday All-You--Can-Eat buffet for $8.95. It made an
excellent rest stop at exactly 100 miles from home. I think I saw
more motorcycles on the road today than I see during the summer
season in New York State. Sorry, I was the only Pacific Coast
around. I guess we all had the same urge to set aside our holiday
shopping and take in the countryside today.

I hope you had a chance to  do the same where you live.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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From: "The Broeking's" <broeking@erols.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, "PC800 Rider" <pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me... (ME TOO - TRIP REPOR)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:18:50 -0500

I had been looking at this weekend on the calendar since early November.
Mainly because there was a full moon on Dec 3rd which would make riding
easier at night.  I was thinking about riding 1000 miles in 24 hours... my
route was changed from a jaunt to Knoxville TN and back to straight down
I-95 from the Wash DC area to Walterboro, SC and back.  This route change
was caused by the weather; it was warmer on the east coast then on the
backbone of the Blue Ridge Mountains and usually less fog.  As it got closer
I began to think about a piece of advice Bob Ray gave me off the LDR list.
He suggested progressive rides of 300-500-700 miles before attempting a 1000
mile day.  My experience is fresh, starting to commute daily on a motorcycle
in July after completing the MSC at the age of 40.  I ride in Wash DC
traffic on my 1998 Honda Pacific Coast; the ultimate LDR mount...:-)

Anyway as it came closer to this weekend, business twice took me away from
home.  I knew I could do the 1000, but the question of cramming in a free
weekend between work started to look undesirable.  I went back to Bob Ray's
advice -- the longest I had ever ridden was only 342 miles.  Why not try a
training ride over 500 miles to see how I do over time, and take some
practice at gas stops, etc. I could get up early Sun and be back by early
afternoon. Would not the 1000 mile ride be much more fun in the Spring with
more daylight? I was still undecided...

On Saturday I went for a bicycle ride (one of my other sports) to clear my
head and decided whether to go for the 1000 or wait until Spring.  The
weather was hitting all time highs on the east coast with high 70's in VA
and low 80's in NC and SC where the route was laid out. Nighttime lows were
in the 50's; balmy compared to the 30's we had previously in Nov.  As I was
riding I decided to take a shorter training ride rather than do the 1000.
Better to take small steps rather than one large one and over the cliff...
My mountaineering background has always given me a pretty good sense of
"risk management"  and this played into my decision.

I left the house at 4:10am this morning and my computer gas receipt put me
"on the clock" at 4:28am with a full tank of gas.  I took off straight south
on I-95 through Fedricksburg, and through Richmond VA. where I picked up
I-85 south.  I had two bouts on being sleepy and I stopped at rest stops to
wake up for about 3-5 mins.  I am usually quite alert when I wake up so I
think this was my body telling me it was a bit worn down and that I had made
a wise choice on this ride.

Right as my gas needle was nearing E, I turned off onto VA Route 1 at South
Hill VA after 175 miles and gassed up.  My first gas stop was 6 mins at the
pump and back to the road.  I then turned west on VA Route 58 where dense
fog greeted me immediately.  I was able to keep up about a 60 mph pace on a
two lane highway with road construction since it was only 8:00am on a
Sunday.

I followed this state highway all across the bottom of VA through Danville,
VA and around Martinsville where I got see my 2nd NASCAR track of the day!
(I had saw Richmond's earlier).  Before Rocky Mount, VA I stopped and had a
snack (bananas) stretched and stripped off layers under the stich... it was
finally warming up.  (As soon as I left I-95, I had to turn my Widder vest
on to keep warm in the damp and chilling fog)  I took more gas at the next
Exxon station and while I was there a guy came over and asked what kind of
motorcycle I was riding as his teenagers in the mini van wanted to know.  I
told him the model and he said the teenagers thought it was "pretty"... Hey,
a compliment is a compliment! I hooked up with I-581 in Roanoke, VA out to
I-81 north.  Back on restricted access interstate again, I cruised north at
75 mph with the throttle lock on firm.  The traffic was light with a
moderate cross wind.

The only excitement of the trip came when  cage with his back windows
blocked with stuffed animals came left into my lane to avoid merging
traffic.  Even with the airhorn blowing him awake, he was intent on being in
my lane, so I rolled off the throttle and momentarily got in behind until I
passed him a mile farther up the road.  The traffic pace stayed high onto
I-66 and all the way into Wash DC.  I passed the 500 mile point at 8 hours,
52 minutes so it seemed like I was on a pretty good pace to do 1000 miles in
19-20 hours as the morning had been slower due to fog and the roads I
traveled.

I arrived back home at 9 hours, 55 minutes covering a total of 570 miles for
the day.  A nice summer day jaunt in December!

Beta:
570 miles
9 hours, 55 minutes
avg. speed (including stops) 57 mph  (did not commute rolling avg.)
avg. mpg: 50.1 mpg

Aftermath:  Good advice Bob Ray. Thank you.  I am ready to the  1000 miles
now and my first rally in 99.  Will look for a balmy day in Jan-Feb or just
do it comfortably in Apr after daylight savings time kick in.  Thanks to all
on the LDR list for the tips.  They work!

Bob Broeking in Springfield, VA.... http://whitespider.aawsom.net
   "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face of the
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 00:35:38 +0100

>I've been gone for 7 hours and only one posting here! Either you
>are all out doing your Christmas shopping, or you had weather as
>great as I had today. 

Celebrating 'Sinterklaas' here. That's the same guy as Santa Claus
actually. Did you guys know that Sinterklaas / Santa Claus was
actually a Turkish bishop from Mira, Turkey ? Probably wasn't even
white. The present image of Santa Claus as you know it today was
actually invented by Coca Cola, who used that image as an advertisement
somewhere around the beginning of the century I believe (before or after).

>around. I guess we all had the same urge to set aside our holiday
>shopping and take in the countryside today.
>I hope you had a chance to  do the same where you live.
>Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
>
I wish. Hail and freezing rain here (snow in the east). Conditions are
dangerous, but I keep on riding if I can. Wish I had your weather, I hate
this tricky weather. There may be a chance I can live and work in
Italy for two years starting next month or so, flying for Alitalia. It's still in
planning phase, but I think the winters will be a lot nicer in Rome. Except
when I will go to Milan, I think the weather around the foothills of the alps
will be pretty cold in winter. Nice riding in summer offcourse.
Now how do I get my PC to Italy in February ? Crossing the alps might
become a problem. Hmm.... 
Wonder if the PC will stand out between all those scooters. 
Just dreaming now.... wonder what those Italian women will be like...
oops... that's too much off subject I guess..sorry.....

Emilio Nossini
'90 PC800 "The Flying Dutchman"

http://fly.to/emile
ICQ 17992318
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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: "Pacific Coast" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: trunk lights
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:36:34 -0500

Is there a picture floating around of the hondaline trunk lights installed?
Does it interfere with placing a full face helmet (Shoei rf-800) in the
trunk.


Weather is great here too.  I have been right ready to drop the sta-bil in
the tank and plug up the battery tender.  WITH WEATHER LIKE THIS, all I want
to do is ride!



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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:51:29 -0600
From: Steve Wilson <deere@linknet.net>
To: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
CC: Pacific Coast <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: trunk lights

Pics are at the PC800 web site, I think, or at the SCPCRiders site.
The lights go on both sides and are about the size of a small box of
matches, not in the way at all.

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From: Peter_N1@verifone.com
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: trunk lights
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:17:57 -0800 

  If you put your helmet in the left side trunk compartment (the larger of the
two) such that it is upside down with the face/shield/chinbar to the rear of the
bike, then the trunk light will not interfere.

  I have the Shoei RF-R (size: large)and used to store it vertically, with the
head opening along the wheel side of the left compartment and the face
shield/chin bar facing the sky. After installing the trunk lights, I found that
the left compartment light would hit the face shield  of the helmet and prevent
the trunk from closing. 

  The most difficult job in installing the lights yourself, is making the two
required rectangular holes in the trunk lid neatly, so take your time and work
slowly. The most nerve racking part is removing the outer trunk lid cover, which
requires bending it a bit to get the plastic tabs on it to release.

  The included instructions are good, and it includes templates for the
placement and cutting the rectangular holes. Check the archives, a few months
ago I believe someone submitted a writeup on the install process.

Peter Noeth || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/9.5k and loving every minuite!



> ---------
> From: 	Michael D. Linkous[SMTP:mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com]
> Sent: 	Sunday, December 06, 1998 3:36 PM
> To: 	Pacific Coast
> Subject: 	PC800: trunk lights
> 
> Is there a picture floating around of the hondaline trunk lights installed?
> Does it interfere with placing a full face helmet (Shoei rf-800) in the
> trunk.
> 
> 
> Weather is great here too.  I have been right ready to drop the sta-bil in
> the tank and plug up the battery tender.  WITH WEATHER LIKE THIS, all I want
> to do is ride!
> 
> 
> 
> -----     -----     -----     -----     -----     -----
> Michael D. Linkous
> Bluefield, WV
> www.angelfire.com/wv/mlink/index.html
> 
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From: Peter_N1@verifone.com
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: Re:PC800: Kisan
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:52:46 -0800 

Jim,

  You're right, it shouldn't be too hard to install electrical filtering for
accessories to connect to. However since all my test equipment is packed away
while I am waiting for my house to sell, I won't be able to investigate it for
quite a while (after I move into the new house, about 6 mo. from now as I
haven't found a new house).

  I will be installing my amateur/CB/car radio stuff after I move, so that will
be the time to characterize the electrical system.

  I also have a Kisan headlamp modulator (the 115w modle to accomendate my
80/100w lamp) and have only noticed it modulated incorrectly at night once. This
will happen every time I pass under a specific street light on my way home from
work if I have the high beam on in preparation for a sharp blind corner, and is
not related with engine RPM. I believe the problem may be in the light sensor. 

  Since phototransistor light sensors have sensitivities in the light spectrum
that we can't see, it is possible for them to "see light" at night when we think
there is no light, or may briefly see light bright enough to trigger the
modulator where otherwise the average light level does not trigger the
modulator.

  Then there is the "dark current" effect where a phototransistor can turn on in
complete darkness due to incorrect circuit design, but that is a story for
another time.......

Peter Noeth || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/9.5k and loving every minuite!

    

> ---------
> From: 	Jim Randall[SMTP:jrandall@tricon.net]
> Sent: 	Saturday, December 05, 1998 6:48 AM
> To: 	'PC800 List'
> Subject: 	FW: Re:PC800: Kisan
> 
> It shouldn't be too hard for someone with the right skills (Peter Noeth are
> you listenting?) to design an inline filter/voltage regulator to miniminze
> electrical problems. If something like that were available, you could just
> plug all your electronics in "downstream".
> 
> Jim Randall
> jrandall@tricon.net
> http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steven R. Zweigart [SMTP:des1@ntr.net]
> Sent:	Friday, December 04, 1998 10:18 AM
> To:	Tosh Konya
> Cc:	'PC800 Mailing List'
> Subject:	Re: Re:PC800: Kisan 
> 
> Supposedly, the PC (at least some of them) have some pretty wild electrical
> inferference they generate at certain rpm levels.  Though this doesn't
> effect the bike, it can cause havoc with sensitive electronic devices.  So,
> yes, it is the fault of the device, but devices that work on other bikes
> have particular problems on the PC.  Sooooo, we discriminating PC riders,
> who like all of the modern conveniences and safety features, must wait
> patiently as the developers redesign their products to handle our
> electricly-noisy rides.  (Presumably, PC's aren't the only cycle's thus
> afflicted.)
> 
> Kisan has been FANTASTIC in working with us.  They've already sent me one
> new model of their modulator to try out, and don't want me to attempt to
> send anything back until they try this new upcoming revision.  I praise them
> for their true customer service, and for working with us to get the problem
> resolved rather than just saying "tough luck....our product won't work on
> your bike!".
> 
> So, that's the Saga of the Kisan Modulator in a nutshell.  Hopefully, a
> happy ending is right around the corner.
> 
> Steve Zweigart
> Maysville, Kentucky
> '97 PC800
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tosh Konya <ttk@erinet.com>
> To: Steven R. Zweigart <des1@ntr.net>
> Date: Thursday, 03 December 1998 20:13
> Subject: Re: Re:PC800: Kisan
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> I'm looking forward to getting a working head lamp modulator from the
> >> good folks at Kisan.  do you think that the revision of the circuit
> boards
> >> will contain circuitry which would be helpful for other electrical
> >problems
> >> inherent to the Pacific Coast?  I'd be curious to know exactly what it is
> >> they are "curing."
> >
> >It sounds like a gimmick to me.  If someone's accessory doesn't work on a
> PC
> >the fault shouldn't be put on the bike.
> >
> 
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000
From: Vartan Kazarov <vartan@att.net>
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Does anybody have a service manual they want to sell?

Please reply via e-mail.  I apologize if this is a repost.

Vartan
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From: "Alan Bowen" <abowen@home.com>
To: "John La" <johnla@yahoo.com>, "Jeff Darr" <jad@apk.net>
Cc: "pclist" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Aux power wiring harnesses
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 23:39:49 -0500


I'm looking for a wiring harness to do a nice clean professional looking job
when I wire up accessories into the aux power jack under the seat.  Trouble
is, Pep Boys & Radio Shack don't carry anything close to what I'm looking
for.  Have any of you found such a thing?


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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Serial numbers and the like
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 06:53:01 +0200 


I think I am relatively correct when the number I found is indeed the VIN, only difference being the factory code / country code or whatever that wasn't part of it. The panels are original, the pictures will be on my homepage by the evening, with more to follow.

Yesterday I did the breakfast run to Hartebeespoort Dam (about 30km's/20miles from home). The bikes got a lot of attention and many people came over to eyeball this weird-looking bike. I must say that it is an attention-grabber for sure, don't know if I can cope with it though...

Lohan


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From: John Scalisi [mailto:jscalisi@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:15 PM
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List
Subject: Re: PC800: Serial numbers and the like


Based on the fact that we think it is a 1989 and the color isn't the
pearl white, the bike was probably repainted and maybe part of the VIN
plate got covered with new paint maybe.  Or maybe the bike was damaged
and repainted and the VIN plate got damaged.
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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: to buy or not to buy......
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:09:18 +0200 

I confess! I tipped over with my PC on the tar on Friday as well! I still don't know how it happened, but as I stopped at the intersection I tried to put my foot down... but I couldn't get it off the bike! Somehow my steeltips got caught somewhere, so with a "Whooooaaaa!" I kissed the tar. Luckily not a big audience, but the humiliation was terrible! The funny thing is, I went over every inch of the bike and I (except for a minor scrape on the front protection bar) couldn't find any damage! Unbelievable! 

I like my bike!
Lohan

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From: Leland C. Sheppard [mailto:lcshepp@directcon.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 7:05 PM
To: Richard Proctor
Cc: Pacific Coast Owners
Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......


Hi Richard,

Richard Proctor wrote:

> PC 800's are not thick upon the ground around here but I have been offered
> one upon which I am pondering.
>
> It was bought earlier this year by a 68 year old gent who laid it down it
> in his driveway and gave himself the willies so he is selling it. It's done
> 6,000 miles

Did he literally tip over in the driveway?   I've done that severaltimes
without the amount of damage you describe.  I popped a mirror
the last time but the marks on it were negligible and I just remounted
the breakaway stuff and it's as good as new (almost).   The only other
damage I've seen was on the crash bar covers and it is so minimal that
I'm not even bothering with it; i.e., they are surface scratches.

The one time my windshield became involved was when the PC tipped over
against the door of my car in the driveway.   There were a couple of
superficial scratches on the upper corner of the shield which I can't even
find anymore...

FWIW...

> It is red & black and nominally a 1998 model. The serial # is
> JH2RC3409WM600275.

JH2RC3409WM600275 figures out to:

JH2          (J)apan (H)onda 2.. Honda motorcycle built in Japan.
RC340        PC800 built for the 49 states (California models are "RC341")
9            VIN check number (hope it checks!)
W           don't remember what this was
M            Manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan
6            1998 model
00275        275th bike off the line


> What does that tell us beside it being a Californian model, and what does
> that mean in practical terms, can anyone tell me?

See above.

> The damage done is apparently cosmetic, 4 body parts plus a bit of
> paintwork, how paintwork much depends on how fussy you are.
>

See above.

> I priced the parts at Rosewill Honda (?? I can't find the post that had
> their ph # again).

Roseville Honda/Kawasaki.  (916) 782-2171.

> They were: (US $$'s)
> Standard screen                         $256.29  (sounds too high; thought it
> was $189).
> Trim strip below screen         $89.29
> LH rear view mirror/indicator assembly  $225.70  (wow!)
> FR crash bar trim cover         $150.59
>
> These seem expensive. Any comments anyone.

Honda parts are always expensive, in my experience, but of very good quality.
The windshield price sounds too high, though.

You might try Lamb's Honda/Yamaha in Auburn California. (530) 885-7105  Also, I
have heard on this list that Honda of Milpitas has good prices.  They are here
in California too and have a web presence;  you can contact them at:

http://www.boulevards.com/billboards/honda/


> The dealer wants NZ$9,500 =US$5,035.00 plus NZ$1,200 = US$636 for parts
> plus touch-up.
>
> Overall that seems like approx new price in the US without a new warranty
> but less cost and hassle of shipping.
>

New US was about $6300, I think.  Don't know what shipping would be.  Is the
Honda three year, unlimited mileage warranty non-transferrable?

> Given that it is a deleted model, it's winter, no self cancelling
> indicators, ugly little front spats etc, does it seem a good buy compared
> with US prices or is the to consensus keep hunting in the US for a cheaper
> one and ship it out here.
>

One person on this list went to the trouble of putting on the full wheel covers
and spent about $1000 to do it.  FWIW...

If he literally dropped it when standing still, the damage should really be
superficial.  In that case, the bike might be just fine.  Bird in hand and all
that sort of thing...  6000 miles is nothing on this bike; barely broken in!

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120,000 miles




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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: "'Emile Nossin'" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>, PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:17:24 +0200 

Speaking of riding in other places, I will be working in Redmond, Washington from late January next year for about two-three months -- are there any people on this list from there? I'd like to buy me a few gifts for my PC (I'm turning 21 next month) and I'm wondering what the weather would like out there.

Lohan

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From: Emile Nossin [mailto:Emile@Cybercomm.nl]
Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 1:36 AM
To: PC800
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...


>I've been gone for 7 hours and only one posting here! Either you
>are all out doing your Christmas shopping, or you had weather as
>great as I had today. 

Celebrating 'Sinterklaas' here. That's the same guy as Santa Claus
actually. Did you guys know that Sinterklaas / Santa Claus was
actually a Turkish bishop from Mira, Turkey ? Probably wasn't even
white. The present image of Santa Claus as you know it today was
actually invented by Coca Cola, who used that image as an advertisement
somewhere around the beginning of the century I believe (before or after).
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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 21:27:42 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Jason Leroux <dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu>
CC: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

Hi Jason,

Jason Leroux wrote:

> Thanks for responding. Trunks leak a small amount into the actual trunk.
> perhaps it was from washing the bike the previous day?

I wash mine regularly with a nozzle on the end of the hose so the water is
applied all over my PC with a fair amount of pressure.  The ONLY place I get any
leakage from that is the little pocket on the left side of the fairing.

If you are getting leakage into the trunk, can you see which direction it's
coming from?  For example, is there a dried trail running down the side of the
wheel well or maybe a trail on the outside edge, etc.?

There is a gasket around the outside of the upper portion of the trunk - I'd
check it carefully for signs of water or detioration.  I get a little water in
the center of the trunk around the latches.  I think it is coming from the back
of the passengers seat - there is a little gap there that might let water
inside.  But that water never reaches the bottoms of my trunk and, come to think
of it, I'm not sure why it doesn't...

I ride my PC year round which, in the winter, means it gets subjected to a lot of
water.  So far (knocking on wood), so good.

I can't think of anything else to check.  Maybe someone else on the list will
jump in...


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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 22:06:33 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: trunk lights

Hi Peter,

Peter_N1@verifone.com wrote:

>   If you put your helmet in the left side trunk compartment (the larger of the
> two) such that it is upside down with the face/shield/chinbar to the rear of the
> bike, then the trunk light will not interfere.

My wife's RF200 goes in right side up with the chin bar to the rear with no problem
(right side of the trunk; medium size helmet).  My Bell Mag Ltd (open face) will go
in right side up facing the rear - it's an XL (left side of the trunk).  Neither of
them touches the trunk lights.

I have an X9 Shoei which is also an XL and it won't go in period (right side up,
upside down, on end, etc.); it's just too wide.  Since I don't wear it except in
foul weather I hadn't even tried to put it in the trunk until just now; it's just as
well...  When I get to work with it on, I just walk into the building with the
helmet; ditto coming out at night.  More often than not it's raining anyway...

I guess my point to you and to Michael Linkous is that it probably depends more on
the size of the helmet than the trunk lights as to whether it will fit or not.

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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
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Subject: PC800: First looks - my bikesite
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:27:49 +0200 

Hi cool people

For those interested, got the first pics up on the web of my silver
PC800 (as yet unnamed -- any ideas?). The URL is
http://members.xoom.com/lomaxx . You can sign up for update notification
as well if you enter your email addy.

Regards
Lohan

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From: TedJ101@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 05:12:10 -0500 (EST)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 05:12:10 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...

In a message dated 12/6/98 6:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Emile@Cybercomm.nl writes:

<< Now how do I get my PC to Italy in February ? Crossing the alps might
 become a problem. Hmm....  >>

It sure would!  Many of the passes were not open in June when I was there...
That's rugged country!

Been there, done that!  <<Hannibal>>
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 07:40:56 -0500
From: Roger Prince <roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com>
To: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
Cc: Jason Leroux <dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu>,
        Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

My 1990 leaked around the screws that hold the center section under the passenger
seat on.  I solved it with a dab of silicone seal on each.  Don't tighten them too
much or they will create a dimple on the outside.

Roger

"Leland C. Sheppard" wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Jason Leroux wrote:
>
> > Thanks for responding. Trunks leak a small amount into the actual trunk.
> > perhaps it was from washing the bike the previous day?
>
> I wash mine regularly with a nozzle on the end of the hose so the water is
> applied all over my PC with a fair amount of pressure.  The ONLY place I get any
> leakage from that is the little pocket on the left side of the fairing.
>
> If you are getting leakage into the trunk, can you see which direction it's
> coming from?  For example, is there a dried trail running down the side of the
> wheel well or maybe a trail on the outside edge, etc.?
>
> There is a gasket around the outside of the upper portion of the trunk - I'd
> check it carefully for signs of water or detioration.  I get a little water in
> the center of the trunk around the latches.  I think it is coming from the back
> of the passengers seat - there is a little gap there that might let water
> inside.  But that water never reaches the bottoms of my trunk and, come to think
> of it, I'm not sure why it doesn't...
>
> I ride my PC year round which, in the winter, means it gets subjected to a lot of
> water.  So far (knocking on wood), so good.
>
> I can't think of anything else to check.  Maybe someone else on the list will
> jump in...
>
> --
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> '94 Pacific Coast
> "Black Beauty"
> 120,000 miles
>
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From: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
To: "Lohan Johnson" <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
Cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:07:10 -0500

I did the same exact thing once in a parking lot.  Same damage results, too.
Actually, it gave me alot of confidence in the design of the bike and its
ability to resist damage in that type of situation.

My theory on the inability to remove the foot thing....   The PC is SOOOOO
comfortable, one doesn't want to dismount, so his/her subconscious prevents
him from putting the foot on the ground.  Maybe the PC should be retrofitted
with "landing gear" like some Wings, or better yet like the ones found on
the Ecomobile.  (If you haven't checked that one out, look it up on the
net...it's awesome.)

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800

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Date: Monday, 07 December 1998 00:07
Subject: RE: PC800: to buy or not to buy......


>I confess! I tipped over with my PC on the tar on Friday as well! I still
don't know how it happened, but as I stopped at the intersection I tried to
put my foot down... but I couldn't get it off the bike! Somehow my steeltips
got caught somewhere, so with a "Whooooaaaa!" I kissed the tar. Luckily not
a big audience, but the humiliation was terrible! The funny thing is, I went
over every inch of the bike and I (except for a minor scrape on the front
protection bar) couldn't find any damage! Unbelievable!
>
>I like my bike!
>Lohan
>
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>From: Leland C. Sheppard [mailto:lcshepp@directcon.net]
>Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 7:05 PM
>To: Richard Proctor
>Cc: Pacific Coast Owners
>Subject: Re: PC800: to buy or not to buy......
>
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Richard Proctor wrote:
>
>> PC 800's are not thick upon the ground around here but I have been
offered
>> one upon which I am pondering.
>>
>> It was bought earlier this year by a 68 year old gent who laid it down it
>> in his driveway and gave himself the willies so he is selling it. It's
done
>> 6,000 miles
>
>Did he literally tip over in the driveway?   I've done that severaltimes
>without the amount of damage you describe.  I popped a mirror
>the last time but the marks on it were negligible and I just remounted
>the breakaway stuff and it's as good as new (almost).   The only other
>damage I've seen was on the crash bar covers and it is so minimal that
>I'm not even bothering with it; i.e., they are surface scratches.
>
>The one time my windshield became involved was when the PC tipped over
>against the door of my car in the driveway.   There were a couple of
>superficial scratches on the upper corner of the shield which I can't even
>find anymore...
>
>FWIW...
>
>> It is red & black and nominally a 1998 model. The serial # is
>> JH2RC3409WM600275.
>
>JH2RC3409WM600275 figures out to:
>
>JH2          (J)apan (H)onda 2.. Honda motorcycle built in Japan.
>RC340        PC800 built for the 49 states (California models are "RC341")
>9            VIN check number (hope it checks!)
>W           don't remember what this was
>M            Manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan
>6            1998 model
>00275        275th bike off the line
>
>
>> What does that tell us beside it being a Californian model, and what does
>> that mean in practical terms, can anyone tell me?
>
>See above.
>
>> The damage done is apparently cosmetic, 4 body parts plus a bit of
>> paintwork, how paintwork much depends on how fussy you are.
>>
>
>See above.
>
>> I priced the parts at Rosewill Honda (?? I can't find the post that had
>> their ph # again).
>
>Roseville Honda/Kawasaki.  (916) 782-2171.
>
>> They were: (US $$'s)
>> Standard screen                         $256.29  (sounds too high;
thought it
>> was $189).
>> Trim strip below screen         $89.29
>> LH rear view mirror/indicator assembly  $225.70  (wow!)
>> FR crash bar trim cover         $150.59
>>
>> These seem expensive. Any comments anyone.
>
>Honda parts are always expensive, in my experience, but of very good
quality.
>The windshield price sounds too high, though.
>
>You might try Lamb's Honda/Yamaha in Auburn California. (530) 885-7105
Also, I
>have heard on this list that Honda of Milpitas has good prices.  They are
here
>in California too and have a web presence;  you can contact them at:
>
>http://www.boulevards.com/billboards/honda/
>
>
>> The dealer wants NZ$9,500 =US$5,035.00 plus NZ$1,200 = US$636 for parts
>> plus touch-up.
>>
>> Overall that seems like approx new price in the US without a new warranty
>> but less cost and hassle of shipping.
>>
>
>New US was about $6300, I think.  Don't know what shipping would be.  Is
the
>Honda three year, unlimited mileage warranty non-transferrable?
>
>> Given that it is a deleted model, it's winter, no self cancelling
>> indicators, ugly little front spats etc, does it seem a good buy compared
>> with US prices or is the to consensus keep hunting in the US for a
cheaper
>> one and ship it out here.
>>
>
>One person on this list went to the trouble of putting on the full wheel
covers
>and spent about $1000 to do it.  FWIW...
>
>If he literally dropped it when standing still, the damage should really be
>superficial.  In that case, the bike might be just fine.  Bird in hand and
all
>that sort of thing...  6000 miles is nothing on this bike; barely broken
in!
>
>--
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>'94 Pacific Coast
>"Black Beauty"
>120,000 miles
>
>
>
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From: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:12:03 -0500

My most very favoritest helmet, an old white half-helmet, is wearing out to
the point of need of replacement.  I've got two other helmets, a 3/4 Fulmer,
and a full-face Arai, both white, but the Fulmer gets uncomfortable after
about 45 minutes, and the Arai started decomposing (innards are falling out)
almost the day after I got it.  (Also gives me the worst case of Hairdo by
Honda.)

At any rate, I'm thinking about replacing the half helmet for my in-town
commuting, and am interested, perhaps, in getting one to match my
arrest-me-red '97 PC.  Thought it might be the appropriate time and place to
start a thread on color-matching of different brands/models of helmets.

Anyone had any luck matching any particular makes/models of helmets to their
bikes?

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800


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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:29:37 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Rich Gross <rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu>
Subject: PC800: Winter

64 degrees Saturday (great 80 mile day trip on Jetson with my bride testing
out the new passenger backrest [P.S. works great, Jim]), 20 degrees and 3"
of snow Sunday. I guess I have to finally accept that it is time to
hibernate her for a few months - the bike, not the wife.

So, could you help me clear up some issues on which I get astoundingly
conflicting advice?

1. Oil has 600 miles on it. Change it for the winter, or wait til Spring?
If I change it and don't ride for 4 months, should I change it again in the
Spring, or can I assume it is OK then?

2. Battery tender v. starting her up every week or so for 15-20 minutes? Both?

3. Gas stabilizer is already added. Do I _really_ have to drain the gas
tank and carburetor?

On a final note, having just bought my PC800 in August in large part due to
suggestions from this group, I can't say enough about the bike, safe
cycling in general, and the value of lurking around this mailing list.

Rich
Madison, WI
1994 PC800: Jetson
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From: "Sattin, Harvey" <h.sattin@neccsd.com>
To: "'X PC 800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:45:51 -0500 

Yes it's for real!  

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To receive your free subscription, please fill out the required information
at this private URL:

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Your first issue will arrive in six to ten weeks.  But, don't delay -- this
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From: "Sattin, Harvey" <h.sattin@neccsd.com>
To: "'Reinhardt, Bob'" <REINHARB@ASAMRA.HOFFMAN.ARMY.MIL>
Cc: "'X PC 800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: RE: 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:16:05 -0500 

Bob,

Check out their home page for more info and their address & phone number to
call if you have any questions.

http://www.erebuni.net/

I have nothing to do with this company, just passing on some info from a
friend who says they're okay.

~Harvey Sattin
Brookline, MA (Sunny, dry, temps in the 70s today)
'98 PC800W, "Rhonda" 1300 miles.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Reinhardt, Bob [SMTP:REINHARB@ASAMRA.HOFFMAN.ARMY.MIL]
> Sent:	Monday, December 07, 1998 9:57 AM
> To:	'Sattin, Harvey'
> Subject:	RE: 
> 
> Harvey,
> 
> Where's the hook?  How and why would anyone offer a free subscription?
> Also
> who is Erebuni?  I can't help being skeptical and cautious as I've been
> burned before where something like this is nothing more than a ploy to
> obtain mailing addresses and demographic information without ever
> receiving
> the product or service offered!
> 
> Thanks in advance for any clarification or info you can provide.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob R
> '95 PC
> '86 Interceptor
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Sattin, Harvey[SMTP:h.sattin@neccsd.com]
> > Sent: 	Monday, December 07, 1998 9:45 AM
> > To: 	'X PC 800 List'
> > 
> > Yes it's for real!  
> > 
> > FREE one year (12 issues), fully paid subscription to Motorcyclist
> > Magazine.
> > 
> > This subscription has been purchased by Erebuni, and is absolutely no
> cost
> > to you.
> > 
> > To receive your free subscription, please fill out the required
> > information
> > at this private URL:
> > 
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> > 
> > Your first issue will arrive in six to ten weeks.  But, don't delay --
> > this
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:42:51 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Kriss

Hello,

There are a number of people dealing with Kriss and others on electrical
devices for their PC's.  I read this on the GWRRA website and thought it
would be of interest to anyone buying or going to buy, from Kriss (read
from the bottom up).

Now let me say that 1) read all the follow up statements too to get more
opinions and experiences, 2) I don't neccessarily agree that Kriss is
out of line at all, 3) I have never dealt with Kriss nor do I have any
grudge against them.  I just thought that you might find it of
interest.  Just keep an open mind.

http://bbs.gwrra.org/gwboard/general/messages/10006218.html

TommyTeal
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:01:10 -0400
To: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>,
        "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...

At 9:12 AM -0500 12/7/98, Steven R. Zweigart wrote:

>Thought it might be the appropriate time and place to
>start a thread on color-matching of different brands/models of helmets.
>
>Anyone had any luck matching any particular makes/models of helmets to their
>bikes?
>
>Steve Zweigart


It's easy......buy a 94 or 95 PC800 and you will be able to get a matching
helmet from almost any manufacturer!

But seriously...the black of my Arai helmet is a black pearl, and on close
inspection it is much nicer than the black of the PC800, but black is
black, and the differences are only noticeable under close scrutiny, or
when the two are exactly side by side.

The hardest model years to match will probably be the 89 and 90.  The 90
colour was also used on ST1100's, at least it was here in Canada. That
might help in being able to find a match. I'm unaware of any other bike
that had the pearl white of the 89 model year, although at the Honda
Homecoming in 97 I saw a few Arai helmets for sale that were pearl white.
I'm not sure how close they would match, but it might be close enough.

Bye for now...


fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)


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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:20:58 -0400
To: Rich Gross <rgross@facstaff.wisc.edu>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Winter

At 8:29 AM -0600 12/7/98, Rich Gross wrote:

>So, could you help me clear up some issues on which I get astoundingly
>conflicting advice?
>
>1. Oil has 600 miles on it. Change it for the winter, or wait til Spring?
>If I change it and don't ride for 4 months, should I change it again in the
>Spring, or can I assume it is OK then?
>

That's a tough one.......opinions on this will vary greatly.    My personal
opinion is that if the oil wasn't at or near the change interval when I put
her away for the winter, then I would leave it in for the winter. I will be
starting it occasionally, but the motor won't be driven hard or put under
any high rmp loads or stress.  Regardless of the oil condition when I put
it in storage, when spring comes around and I start riding agian, I have
the oil changed again.   I read an article about winter storage and it
indicated that oil sitting in a bike will become acidic over time, and that
it was best to change it in the spring.

>2. Battery tender v. starting her up every week or so for 15-20 minutes? Both?
>

Depends on how cold it is going to get.    It's alot of trouble taking the
battery out and putting it back in, especially when the plastic is cold
(Can you spell SNAP?) .  If the bike is going to be in freezing temps for
extended periods, I would personally remove the battery, and keep it in the
house, either on a Battery Tender or a schedule to keep it charged once a
month.  If it is kept in an area where it might warm up from time to time,
where it would be possible to start it and run it for a while, then I would
leave the battery in and just make sure it is charged properly, either by
the bike or a charger.

If you leave the battery in, disconnect any accessories you may have added
that need battery power, such as a clock, radio, alarm, etc.


>3. Gas stabilizer is already added. Do I _really_ have to drain the gas
>tank and carburetor?
>

I don't .   I put in the amount of stabilizer I need for a  full tank, then
I drive over to the gas station and fill it up, mixing it up really good.
Then I drive the bike, or at least let the motor run, so that the
stabilized fuel runs into the carb and float bowls.  I used to drain the
fuel out of my other seasonal motors (snowblower, lawn mower, etc) but when
the time came to use these again, on two occasions the rubber gasket in the
fuel bowls had dried up and was now leaking.  Now I add stabilizer, run
them and let them sit.


>On a final note, having just bought my PC800 in August in large part due to
>suggestions from this group, I can't say enough about the bike, safe
>cycling in general, and the value of lurking around this mailing list.
>

It is a great list, isn't it?   I have been on here now for about a year
and a half, and I have enjoyed it very much.  I was on a list for my car,
and for a hobby of mine, but they were both so mindless and idiotic that I
stopped subscribing.  This list has a great bunch of people on here, from a
good cross section of life, that truly makes it an informed list.

Take care everyone.....

fsl

p.s.     It might go up to 50 here today!!!!     Last year at this time I
was shovelling a 4 foot pile of snow plow debris at the end of my driveway,
at 4:00 in the morning, so I could rush through the snow covered roads to
get to the airport in time for the flight to be cancelled due to weather!
Arrggghh!!!!!

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:18:32 -0900
From: jgoula <jgoula@ims.uaf.edu>
To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...

Francois Saint Laurent wrote:
> The hardest model years to match will probably be the 89 and 90.  The 90
> colour was also used on ST1100's, at least it was here in Canada. That
> might help in being able to find a match. I'm unaware of any other bike
> that had the pearl white of the 89 model year, although at the Honda
> Homecoming in 97 I saw a few Arai helmets for sale that were pearl white.
> I'm not sure how close they would match, but it might be close enough.

I have a Shoei RF700 which is a perfect match for my '90.
I've also seen an RF800 which would be a good match for the '89

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It is the one remedy for the disorders of the great sympathetic 
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:14:49 -0900
From: jgoula <jgoula@ims.uaf.edu>
To: Emile Nossin <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
CC: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...

Emilio Nossini wrote:
> I wish. Hail and freezing rain here (snow in the east). Conditions are
> dangerous, but I keep on riding if I can. Wish I had your weather, I hate
> this tricky weather.

Well Emilio, at least you can ride. Today's high temperature will be (if we
are lucky) -15°C. The roads are like ice rinks after the 20 cm of snow we got
on saturday. :-P

> There may be a chance I can live and work in
> Italy for two years starting next month or so, flying for Alitalia. It's still in
> planning phase, but I think the winters will be a lot nicer in Rome.

Sounds nice

> Now how do I get my PC to Italy in February ? Crossing the alps might
> become a problem. Hmm....

Don't you have any pilot friends who might arrange to fly your bike in the
cargo hold?

> Wonder if the PC will stand out between all those scooters.
> Just dreaming now.... wonder what those Italian women will be like...
> oops... that's too much off subject I guess..sorry.....

I don't think women are ever off the subject ;-)

> Emilio Nossini
> '90 PC800 "The Flying Dutchman"

So would it be "The Italian Dutchman?"
Take care.
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It is the one remedy for the disorders of the great sympathetic 
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From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:30:33 -0600 (CST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Helmet woes

I am also interested in a new helmet.  I currently have a Nolan N70E, which
is very comfprtable, but does not match my PC.  I am interested if anyone
knows of any other helmet that has as superb ventallation as a Nolan with
the "Jet-Stream-Wing" system.  Is there anyting else on the market that has
the same air "flo-a-bility" as a Nolan?


JPatton
89PC 16k

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:25:31 -0500
From: Pat McNew <pmcnew@bellsouth.net>
To: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
CC: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...

Steven R. Zweigart wrote:
> 
> Anyone had any luck matching any particular makes/models of helmets to their
> bikes?
> 
> Steve Zweigart
> Maysville, Kentucky
> '97 PC800

I just bought a new Fulmer AF300 full face that I think matches
purrfectly.  I got it from Waynesville, NC Cycle for $88.  I think the
HJC red is real close, too.

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 06:26:03 -0500
From: Bill Kapinski <wilythek@netnet.net>
To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        "scpcrc@listbot.com" <scpcrc@listbot.com>
Subject: PC800: Wong wing

Today I received a wing from Philips Wong for my '98 PC800. It actually
survived the trip from Hong Kong.  What a beautiful piece of
workmanship. Philips should be proud of his creation...

I won't install it till spring 'cause winter is finally starting here in
Green Bay, WI but it does look great on the bike... Can't wait to get it
mounted... Just thought I'd pass my delight on to the group...

Bill

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:30:20 -0500
From: Susan Dingess <dingess@ecqual.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: windshield

hello										susan here i installed a new rifle windshield 5 over
stock on my pc. it does a little better on height but about the same on
the side. so i am going to sell my hondaline touring windshield which is
5 over stock and 4 on width it is 6 months old and very low miles no
scratches still looks new. i paid 245.00 will sell for 145.00 if any one
out there in coaster land is interested please email or call at
5613351839.															thanks susan
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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Wong wing
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:35:55 -0500

I know others have asked, and I should search the archives.... but guess who
is lazy... Is the Wong Wing still available?

I was just purchasing my PC when this "crze" went around a few months ago,
and I missed out :-(

Michael Linkous
Bluefield, WV


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From: Bill Kapinski <wilythek@netnet.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; scpcrc@listbot.com
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Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 7:30 PM
Subject: PC800: Wong wing


>Today I received a wing from Philips Wong for my '98 PC800. It actually
>survived the trip from Hong Kong.  What a beautiful piece of
>workmanship. Philips should be proud of his creation...
>
>I won't install it till spring 'cause winter is finally starting here in
>Green Bay, WI but it does look great on the bike... Can't wait to get it
>mounted... Just thought I'd pass my delight on to the group...
>
>Bill
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 01:08:20 +0100

>> The hardest model years to match will probably be the 89 and 90.  
>I have a Shoei RF700 which is a perfect match for my '90.
>I've also seen an RF800 which would be a good match for the '89
>
Ditto here. BMW Evolution III in dark red metallic matches my '90
exactly.

Emile
http://fly.to/emile


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:19:18 +0100

>Well Emilio, at least you can ride. Today's high temperature will be (if we
>are lucky) -15°C. The roads are like ice rinks after the 20 cm of snow we got
>on saturday. :-P
>
Wow... so you go snowscootering a lot then ?

>> Now how do I get my PC to Italy in February ? Crossing the alps might
>> become a problem. Hmm....
>Don't you have any pilot friends who might arrange to fly your bike in the
>cargo hold?
>
$$$. Leave paying cargo behind ? Don't think so. I'm a loadplanner for
KLM and I know a PC won't even fit into the hold of a Fokker70 or MD80.
The train is my best option I think. If I get to go to Italy at all, that is.
Hoping.....


Emilio
Olanda
http://fly.to/emile


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From: Peter_N1@verifone.com
To: abowen@home.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: Aux power wiring harnesses
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:39:35 -0800 

Alan,

  I am not sure where you live, but herein the SF Bay Area in California, Fry's
Electronics sells connector adapter kits intended to be used to connect
aftermarket car stereos into the factory radio connectors of the car wiring
harness. The price was $15 + tax.

  There is one that contains two of the connectors requiredfor the PC (one white
connector and one blue connector). The manufacturer of the connector kit is
Metra and the part number is 70-1781. It is intended for Mazda cars (1986-1989)
and trucks (1986-1993). The kit consists of the connectors prewired to a wire
pigtail about 6" long, which you can attach longer wires to. The wires are not
the same color code as used on the PC and are labeld with their intended
connection, but that doesn't matter as long as you wire your accessories
correctly based  on the PC's wiring diagram in the service manual.

  This kind of installation wiring adapter kit should  be available at your
local car stereo dealer, just get one intended for a Mazda car/truck made in the
years specified above and you should be all set. If you can't find one of these
connector kits, let me know and I can pick one up and send it to you.


Peter Noeth || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/9.5k and loving every minuite!
  

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> From: 	Alan Bowen[SMTP:abowen@home.com]
> Reply To: 	Alan Bowen
> Sent: 	Sunday, December 06, 1998 8:39 PM
> To: 	John La; Jeff Darr
> Cc: 	pclist
> Subject: 	PC800: Aux power wiring harnesses
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a wiring harness to do a nice clean professional looking job
> when I wire up accessories into the aux power jack under the seat.  Trouble
> is, Pep Boys & Radio Shack don't carry anything close to what I'm looking
> for.  Have any of you found such a thing?
> 
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From: "Philips Wong" <pca420@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: New Wong Wing - saddlebag spoiler
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:50:06 PST

Hi listers!

After I discussed with the fibreglass factory about the reproduction
of the PC's lower saddlebag spoiler, they said "YES" few days ago.

All I need is somebody to provide one for the molding process - we
all know these thingies are hard to find nowadays.  For the one
who kindly offer the spoiler for molding, postage will be re-imbursed
and the spoiler will be re-painted after the process - they'll 
scratch it a little.  

Or if anyone of you listers know where I can buy one, point me to the 
right direction.  But buying a new one for molding will increase the 
cost and ended up with everybody to pay more.

This is the 1st step and is a must, so please help.

- Philips Wong
  Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course)
   Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997
  GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider
   1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red
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From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:14:14 -0500 (EST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: 89 ForSale

Hello P.C.ers!
I would like to let it be known that a good friend's 1989 P.C. is still
for sale. It has 9641 mi. on it. Not 8000 as was posted back on Nov.30.
Sorry, I was told incorrectly by her husband. The PC has both tall &
short windshields,passenger backrest, & 40 Ch. Realistic C.B. The C.B.
has built in controls up front, while the CB unit is mounted in the
trunk. This PC does not have the Stereo & it does not have any fancy
striping or graphics. The owner wants to buy a Goldwing. Asking $4000
O.B.O. for this lady owned & driven PearlWhite PC. If interested E-mail
me direct. May your Christmas be White.     

Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne,Indiana
Awarded All American City Status For 1999

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To: "Steven R. Zweigart" <des1@ntr.net>
cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 
   of "Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:12:03 EST." <003d01be21eb$a2c986e0$0200a8c0@steve.gte.net> 
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:05:29 -0600

"Steven R. Zweigart" writes:
> My most very favoritest helmet, an old white half-helmet, is wearing out to
> the point of need of replacement.  I've got two other helmets, a 3/4 Fulmer,
> and a full-face Arai, both white, but the Fulmer gets uncomfortable after
> about 45 minutes, and the Arai started decomposing (innards are falling out)
> almost the day after I got it.  (Also gives me the worst case of Hairdo by
> Honda.)

New Arai helmets have a 5 year warranty. Did you lose the warranty card?

I have a red Arai Signet/e which is a very close match for my red '98
PC800. There are two Signet/e reds. I ordered by phone and requested
"the oranger red" and am glad I did.

My other helmet is a Nolan N33 from 1984 or 1985. Its an even better 
color match for the PC. But I'd bet its innards are falling out worse 
than your Arai.  :-)

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From: "Mark Ham" <mham@jps.net>
To: <gwta@voyager.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:33:50 -0800

I purchased a used PC with a Kriss headlight modulator already installed.
It did the same thing yours did after about a month of owning the bike.  The
light was extremely dim and made a funny sound.  I have since removed the
unit and it's sitting on a shelf with no plans of replacement.  I am not
sold on the Kriss product.

I understand a companies policy regarding the fact that you should have
proof of purchase (which is why I never called the company, I didn't
purchase the unit) but you would think that if their product is defective,
they would replace it at little or no cost to the owner.  If they can't
offer a long term guarantee, then it's probably not a quality product.   Do
you want my unit?

Mark Ham
'96 Pacific Coast

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From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:46 AM
Subject: PC800: Kriss


>Hello,
>
>There are a number of people dealing with Kriss and others on electrical
>devices for their PC's.  I read this on the GWRRA website and thought it
>would be of interest to anyone buying or going to buy, from Kriss (read
>from the bottom up).
>
>Now let me say that 1) read all the follow up statements too to get more
>opinions and experiences, 2) I don't neccessarily agree that Kriss is
>out of line at all, 3) I have never dealt with Kriss nor do I have any
>grudge against them.  I just thought that you might find it of
>interest.  Just keep an open mind.
>
>http://bbs.gwrra.org/gwboard/general/messages/10006218.html
>
>TommyTeal
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>98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:43:44 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu (Jason Leroux)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List serve)

hey Gang!
Still looking for suggestions on how to go about cleaning up the
wheels on my recently
purchased '90 PC. They aren't pitted, but badly discolored, especially
the front. Any ideas?
Thanks!
jason
90 PC800


   
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:29:35 -0600
From: Steve Wilson <deere@linknet.net>
To: Jason Leroux <dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu>
CC: PC800 List serve <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: 

I use X-Treem wadding polish. $7.95 It's a pink wad of cotton and I
tear off a pinch and rub it on the wheels till they are slick and then
polish with a soft dry cloth. Got it at my local Honda dealer. It
comes in a short, black, plastic "face cream" looking jar. I thought
my wheels looked good until I finished with the polish. Now they
glisten.

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 01:16:01 -0400
To: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu (Jason Leroux),
        pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List serve)
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: PC800: Re: 

At 11:43 PM -0500 12/7/98, Jason Leroux wrote:
>hey Gang!
>Still looking for suggestions on how to go about cleaning up the
>wheels on my recently
>purchased '90 PC. They aren't pitted, but badly discolored, especially
>the front. Any ideas?
>Thanks!
>jason
>90 PC800
>
>

I have used a wheel polish called Autosol , which comes in a black and gold
squeeze tube.   The results are excellent.   I have used it on auto wheels
as well, and it has brought back the shine to wheels that have been dull
for years.   It's a paste that is made in West Germany, and sold by
Solvolene Lubricants Limited in London.


Ride safe...

fsl

(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)

Francois Saint Laurent 	'95 PC800
Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:09:52 +0200 

Not only the color, but also the style can be quite a pain to find. I'm
looking for a helmet with a clip-off "jaw" (I'm not really sure what
else to call it!) and that moulding inside that fits over your nose so
that the visor doesn't fog up. If anyone have something like this
pleaaase! let me know the make and model so that I can import it. I'm
past colors now, all I want is just the darn thing to do what I want it
to do...

Lohan 


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Ottawa, Canada		Waltzing Matilda

 	HSTA Member Number 7470

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:54:24 +0100

Why, I just saw the right thing for you.
Check out http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/lazer.html .
Go to http://www.lazerhelmets.com to check for availability.
The helmet is quit new. You can get different inside-paddings
in different thicknesses and you can wash them. The visor
is double, against fogging and it has a drop down sunvisor.
Price in the US is around $300 and around €350 here.
In the US sold by Ski-doo as snowmobil helmet, in Europe
it's a fully EC-approved motorcycle helmet.
The chinguard can be opened with one hand by pressing/squeezing
two buttons up front.
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If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."

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Van: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
Aan: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Datum: dinsdag 8 december 1998 9:12
Onderwerp: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet...


>Not only the color, but also the style can be quite a pain to find. I'm
>looking for a helmet with a clip-off "jaw" (I'm not really sure what
>else to call it!) and that moulding inside that fits over your nose so
>that the visor doesn't fog up. If anyone have something like this
>pleaaase! let me know the make and model so that I can import it. I'm
>past colors now, all I want is just the darn thing to do what I want it
>to do...
>
>Lohan
>
>
>(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)
>
>Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800
>Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda
>
> HSTA Member Number 7470
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:38:52 -0500
From: Susan Dingess <dingess@ecqual.net>
To: David Klein <DavidAklein@webtv.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: 89 ForSale

David Klein wrote:
> 
> Hello P.C.ers!
> I would like to let it be known that a good friend's 1989 P.C. is still
> for sale. It has 9641 mi. on it. Not 8000 as was posted back on Nov.30.
> Sorry, I was told incorrectly by her husband. The PC has both tall &
> short windshields,passenger backrest, & 40 Ch. Realistic C.B. The C.B.
> has built in controls up front, while the CB unit is mounted in the
> trunk. This PC does not have the Stereo & it does not have any fancy
> striping or graphics. The owner wants to buy a Goldwing. Asking $4000
> O.B.O. for this lady owned & driven PearlWhite PC. If interested E-mail
> me direct. May your Christmas be White.
> 
> Dave Klein
> DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne,Indiana
> Awarded All American City Status For 1999
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:28:35 -0600
From: "David L. Sigsbee" <dsigsbee@memphis.edu>
Subject: PC800: cleaning wheels
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
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Hey listers--

In regard to the recent conversations on cleaning wheels.  I was told
that the rims on my 1994 were covered with clear coat and that I should
not use abrasives on them for cleaning.  Yet most of the current
conversation seems to center around using various sorts of abrasives,
which could diminish, if not wear through, the clear coat.  Is the truth
out there?  I want to believe.  Clear coat or not.

--David

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:25:03 -0600
From: Steve Wilson <deere@linknet.net>
To: dsigsbee@memphis.edu
CC: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: cleaning wheels

My 95 doesn't have clear coat.

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:36:04 -0400
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: Sunday Sunday so good to me...

Emilio Nossini wrote:
> I wish. Hail and freezing rain here (snow in the east). Conditions are
> dangerous, but I keep on riding if I can. Wish I had your weather, I hate
> this tricky weather.

Greetings from East Coast Canada.  We had EXACTLY the same weather on
Sunday.  I was working at a big charity variety show -- not on stage but
running the computer equipment that handles the phoned-in pledges -- and
when I came out at 1800h my bike had a beautiful 1/4" thick ice coat.  I
chipped the ice off the trunk keyhole, ignition and seat and rode home
looking over my tall Hondaline.

Yesterday was up to +12~C, (mid fifties ~F) and a beautiful day for riding.

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:45:31 -0400
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: PC800: cleaning wheels

My wheel-cleaning became much easier when I discovered that there were two
parts to the wheel grungy-ness.  The first was tar and grease and other
oily guck which was extremely resistant to polishing but with a good
solvent (gasoline on a rag (with appropriate fire and ventialtion cautions)
is pretty good, or paint thinner or Varsol, takes off a lot of the guck and
makes the more unpleasant task of polishing much shorter.

So after cleaning well with the solvent, I use some combination of
"Mother's Mag & Aluminum Cleaner" and steel wool wet with paint
thinner/Varsol.

Both the solvent and the Mother's stuff are hell on your skin, and the work
is hard enough to make rubber gloves fail after about 3 seconds so I
usually resign myself to wrecking the skin on my hands and being nice to
them subsequently -- plain Noxema, applied thick and left on, works for my
skin.

You might be able to wear rubber gloves under leather work gloves for this
and not have them fail, haven't tried it.

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Homo habilis                                Nova Scotia, Canada


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From: "Steve Zweigart" <steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net>
To: "Pacific Coast List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Fw: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:43:42 -0500

Warranty....veeeeery interesting thought.

When I bought the helmet, it was "new" on the showroom shelf with oodles of
other helmets.  There was NOTHING with it, but a little price sticker.  No
tags, no cards, no box, no nothing.  At the time I bought it, I was
"new-bike giddy" and guess I didn't caveat emptor very well.  I think I may
try to contact Arai directly, or go back to the dealer (though the dealer is
a good 3 hours from here).  Always need an excuse to go to a bike shop,
though.

I know full-face helmets are infinitely safer than my half helmet, but there
is NO comparison in comfort for me.  I also am beginning to believe that
there's some sort of an image thing that goes with the half-helmet versus
full, sort of like chips versus crotch rocket pilot.  I've been accused of t
being a bike cop more than once, and I'd rather have that image when riding
as oppposed to whatever other image(s) the cage drivers may tend to create
in their tiny little minds.  I'm learning more and more that there is some
major psychology to appearances on the road, meaning appearances of vehicles
and their drivers, and the mental impact they make on observers.  I think in
more circumstances than we realize, this may make differences in drivers
decisions and reactions on the road which, in some circumstances, may
actually serve to protect us.  Of course, this doesn't protect us from
half-blind senile citizens.  (One of my elderly lady clients came in the
other day.  She informed me that she can only drive to places she can reach
and return from making right turns.  Why?  She suffers from macular
degeneration, and cannot see straight ahead.  She is not comfortable with
left turns, therefore she only makes right turns.  She cannot see traffic
signals, so bases her decision to go or stop on movements of traffic she
picks up in her peripheral vision.  Her optometrist, a friend of mine, says
she's legally blind.  But, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, in its vast wisdom,
sees fit to license her to "drive."  I've discussed the matter with her
family members to no avail.  Moral of the story, BEWARE....they're out
there!)

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC 800


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From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
To: Steven R. Zweigart <des1@ntr.net>
Cc: 'PC800 Mailing List' <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Monday, 07 December 1998 23:07
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...


>"Steven R. Zweigart" writes:
>> My most very favoritest helmet, an old white half-helmet, is wearing out
to
>> the point of need of replacement.  I've got two other helmets, a 3/4
Fulmer,
>> and a full-face Arai, both white, but the Fulmer gets uncomfortable after
>> about 45 minutes, and the Arai started decomposing (innards are falling
out)
>> almost the day after I got it.  (Also gives me the worst case of Hairdo
by
>> Honda.)
>
>New Arai helmets have a 5 year warranty. Did you lose the warranty card?
>
>I have a red Arai Signet/e which is a very close match for my red '98
>PC800. There are two Signet/e reds. I ordered by phone and requested
>"the oranger red" and am glad I did.
>
>My other helmet is a Nolan N33 from 1984 or 1985. Its an even better
>color match for the PC. But I'd bet its innards are falling out worse
>than your Arai.  :-)
>
>--
>David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net
>=====================================================================
>The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
>capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
>

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:26:22 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Joseph H Koson <JHK@wycol.com>
Subject: PC800: Greetings from members.tripod.com/~pc800

PC-800 items for sale

New in box, trunk light kit------------------$25.
Givi Top rack-------------------------------$50.
Givi maxima top box/ black------------------$150.

am located near Buffalo/Rochester New York
E-mail or call Joe 716/237-5228
95 PC-600


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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:33:21 +0200 

Hear-hear!

You know you're in South Africa when the taxi behind you has right of
way! Talking about driving for other people!

Lohan

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From: Steve Zweigart [mailto:steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 4:44 PM
To: Pacific Coast List
Subject: Fw: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 


Warranty....veeeeery interesting thought.

When I bought the helmet, it was "new" on the showroom shelf with oodles
of
other helmets.  There was NOTHING with it, but a little price sticker.
No
tags, no cards, no box, no nothing.  At the time I bought it, I was
"new-bike giddy" and guess I didn't caveat emptor very well.  I think I
may
try to contact Arai directly, or go back to the dealer (though the
dealer is
a good 3 hours from here).  Always need an excuse to go to a bike shop,
though.

I know full-face helmets are infinitely safer than my half helmet, but
there
is NO comparison in comfort for me.  I also am beginning to believe that
there's some sort of an image thing that goes with the half-helmet
versus
full, sort of like chips versus crotch rocket pilot.  I've been accused
of t
being a bike cop more than once, and I'd rather have that image when
riding
as oppposed to whatever other image(s) the cage drivers may tend to
create
in their tiny little minds.  I'm learning more and more that there is
some
major psychology to appearances on the road, meaning appearances of
vehicles
and their drivers, and the mental impact they make on observers.  I
think in
more circumstances than we realize, this may make differences in drivers
decisions and reactions on the road which, in some circumstances, may
actually serve to protect us.  Of course, this doesn't protect us from
half-blind senile citizens.  (One of my elderly lady clients came in the
other day.  She informed me that she can only drive to places she can
reach
and return from making right turns.  Why?  She suffers from macular
degeneration, and cannot see straight ahead.  She is not comfortable
with
left turns, therefore she only makes right turns.  She cannot see
traffic
signals, so bases her decision to go or stop on movements of traffic she
picks up in her peripheral vision.  Her optometrist, a friend of mine,
says
she's legally blind.  But, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, in its vast
wisdom,
sees fit to license her to "drive."  I've discussed the matter with her
family members to no avail.  Moral of the story, BEWARE....they're out
there!)
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:45:46 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Mark Ham <mham@jps.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss

Mark Ham wrote:
> 
> I purchased a used PC with a Kriss headlight modulator already installed.
> It did the same thing yours did after about a month of owning the bike.  The
> light was extremely dim and made a funny sound.  I have since removed the
> unit and it's sitting on a shelf with no plans of replacement.  I am not
> sold on the Kriss product.
> 

This wasn't my Kriss product that went belly up.  I just found it on
another list and passed along the information for what it was worth. 
Thanks though.


> I understand a companies policy regarding the fact that you should have
> proof of purchase (which is why I never called the company, I didn't
> purchase the unit) but you would think that if their product is defective,
> they would replace it at little or no cost to the owner.  If they can't
> offer a long term guarantee, then it's probably not a quality product.   Do
> you want my unit?

Whoa there partner!  You better point that thing at the ladies.  :-)

TommyTeal


> >Hello,
> >
> >There are a number of people dealing with Kriss and others on electrical
> >devices for their PC's.  I read this on the GWRRA website and thought it
> >would be of interest to anyone buying or going to buy, from Kriss (read
> >from the bottom up).
> >
> >Now let me say that 1) read all the follow up statements too to get more
> >opinions and experiences, 2) I don't neccessarily agree that Kriss is
> >out of line at all, 3) I have never dealt with Kriss nor do I have any
> >grudge against them.  I just thought that you might find it of
> >interest.  Just keep an open mind.
> >
> >http://bbs.gwrra.org/gwboard/general/messages/10006218.html
> >
> >TommyTeal
> >--
> >93SE (Teal, You Think?)
> >95Hannigan
> >95ACE (got to go)
> >97Pacific Coast
> >98V-Star Classic (Red, you bet)
> >GWTA #6871
> >GWTA of Michigan Web Page http://my.voyager.net/gwta
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:20:42 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Doug <di9731@vci.net>
Subject: PC800: fairing door

Well Group, 
I am still in need of the little door on the right side protecting the anti
freeze fill tank on the fairing..Had all kinds of people respond,,as you
know, about how they lost theirs , but no one offer it from a wrecked, beat
up, damaged or what ever...thanks again for info..and will surely get a tie
down or screw it down, when i get another.
please respond to me via e-mail
Doug
94 Knight Rider

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:47:12 -0500
Subject: PC800: Re: 
To: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu writes:
>hey Gang!
>Still looking for suggestions on how to go about cleaning up the
>wheels on my recently
>purchased '90 PC. They aren't pitted, but badly discolored,
>especially
>the front. Any ideas?
>Thanks!
>jason
>90 PC800

I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
seen it in catalogs since.

I'll try to come up with a name.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:09:50 -0500
Subject: Re(2): PC800: Kriss
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

mham@jps.net writes:
>I purchased a used PC with a Kriss headlight modulator already
>installed.
>It did the same thing yours did after about a month of owning the
>bike.  The
>light was extremely dim and made a funny sound.  I have since
>removed the
>unit and it's sitting on a shelf with no plans of replacement.  I
>am not
>sold on the Kriss product.
>
>I understand a companies policy regarding the fact that you should
>have
>proof of purchase (which is why I never called the company, I
>didn't
>purchase the unit) but you would think that if their product is
>defective,
>they would replace it at little or no cost to the owner.  If they
>can't
>offer a long term guarantee, then it's probably not a quality
>product.   Do
>you want my unit?
>
>Mark Ham
>'96 Pacific Coast

I have to jump in here. I did not read the web site info yet that
Tommy Teal referenced, but I have had my Kriss modulator since the
end of July and have had nothing but good results. I bought the
heavier duty of the 2 available units, so maybe someone on your
used bike bought the smaller one and bumped up the wattage on the
headlight bulb.

I don't think I would expect the manufacturer of an item on a used
motorcycle I bought to replace it, since I certainly could not be
sure the previous owner had not done something wrong installing or
using it.

I have been reading about all the problems the  Kisan units are
having on the PC800 and it makes me even more happy I made the
choice I did.

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

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From: BMillman@aol.com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:30:18 EST
To: LohanJ@ixchange.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...

Hi Lohan

Nolan have a helmet that matches your requirements. In England it is called
the X-Lite 100, but in the USA it appears to be the Nolan 100. I have one, and
I am very pleased with it - very comfortable and good quality.
On the PC I do get some buffeting with the visor closed, but it is no problem
with the visor up and you can travel at some speed with the visor up on a PC.

There is a website that may be useful for you, it is Helmets on Line at: 
www.helmetsshop.com/index.html

Hope you find this useful - safe riding.

Brian Millman
Reading
England
91PC800 Candy Red 
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:52:25 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@raex.com>
Subject: PC800: PC800 polish

I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
>cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
>that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
>it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
>escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
>seen it in catalogs since.
>
>I'll try to come up with a name.

Greetings PC Owners,

The polish is called "Never-Dull" and is available at bike, antique and
hardware stores. Just make sure you polish it out after you apply it. It's
tough to get off if left to dry.

I just bought a 95 PC and am putting VDO gauges, clock and volt, on it. Is
there a good place to tap into the harness. Some MC's have an accessory
tap. Is there one on the PC?

I live in Ohio and have been lurking on this list since I decided on
getting a PC. I'd like to thank all on the list for their help in locating
a bike and how to check it out. I've had many bikes in the past years (list
to follow.... just once) and I am amazed with the PC's features, quality
and engineering. Hope to meet some of you on the road some day.

Bob

1965 Honda 160
1966 BSA Lightening
1949 Vincent HRD
1936 Brough-Superior SS80						
1959 Ariel Square Four with Stieb sidecar
1966 Triumph Booneville
1983 Benelli 250
1978 Honda 750K
1995 Honda PC800
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:53:39 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@raex.com>
Subject: PC800: PC800 polish

>Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:52:25 -0500
>To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
>From: Bob Patterson <bpatt@raex.com>
>Subject: PC800 polish
>
>I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
>>cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
>>that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
>>it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
>>escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
>>seen it in catalogs since.
>>
>>I'll try to come up with a name.
>
>Greetings PC Owners,
>
>The polish is called "Never-Dull" and is available at bike, antique and
hardware stores. Just make sure you polish it out after you apply it. It's
tough to get off if left to dry.
>
>I just bought a 95 PC and am putting VDO gauges, clock and volt, on it. Is
there a good place to tap into the harness. Some MC's have an accessory
tap. Is there one on the PC?
>
>I live in Ohio and have been lurking on this list since I decided on
getting a PC. I'd like to thank all on the list for their help in locating
a bike and how to check it out. I've had many bikes in the past years (list
to follow.... just once) and I am amazed with the PC's features, quality
and engineering. Hope to meet some of you on the road some day.
>
>Bob
>
>1965 Honda 160
>1966 BSA Lightening
>1949 Vincent HRD
>1936 Brough-Superior SS80						
>1959 Ariel Square Four with Stieb sidecar
>1966 Triumph Bonneville
>1983 Benelli 250
>1978 Honda 750K
>1995 Honda PC800
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 Cleaning material for the wheels
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:54:30 +0100

Hi Group,

Tim, Maybe You meen the NeverDull stuff. I used Aotosol on my Triking
(square meteres of chrome), but the builder of the bike said to me it was to
rough for the soft english chrome!!! I got most parts made new in stainless
steel for the Triking after that and started to use NeverDull.
I believe that the wheel on the PC are coated with something and think the
hard way with metal brushes will make the work even worse thoughout the
years. Pitted aluminium is hard to get nice .Espacially here where they salt
the roads for 5 months of the year.

Arvid
Norway
5 degrees C. NO SNOW

>I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
>cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
>that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
>it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
>escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
>seen it in catalogs since.
>
>I'll try to come up with a name.
>
>Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>
>AMA #688662
>HSTA #8387
>
>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:06:31 +1200
To: PC800 Rider <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Richard Proctor <rproctor@clear.net.nz>
Subject: PC800: progressive springs and superbrace

Gold Wing owners on wings-digest@armchair.mb.ca often talk about the better
handling of Gold Wings with progressive springs and superbrace installed on
the front forks.

Does this apply to PC's too

Regards

Richard Proctor


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From: "Prince, Roger" <RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: RE: PC800 fuel gauge 
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:26:09 -0500 

I think most people read the fuel gauge on the PC in a way different from the way it was designed.  You will notice the "E" is way past the red mark.  The tank capacity is 4.2 US gallons, 4.3 if you count the filler neck.  Normal reserve capacity on Hondas is one gallon.  I find that if I fill up when the needle reaches the red mark, it will take 3.2 gallons, leaving a reserve of one gallon.  It's when the needle reaches the hose on the fuel pump symbol that you had better be looking for a gas station.  The gauge is fairly linear.  It moves off full in just a few miles, not like the gauges that don't move for 100 miles then race for empty.  I have owned four PC's and the gauges have all worked the same.  I have many times put in more than 4 gallons.  I have run out three times, twice I quit as I rolled up to the pump.  The other time was after the gas station I had planned on was closed (out of business) and the next was out of gas.  I only got about 1/4 mile past that one.
I have only had one complaint about the gauge.  The needle goes to the pump too fast.

Roger Prince

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Tosh Konya [SMTP:ttk@erinet.com]
> Sent:	Friday, December 04, 1998 7:20 PM
> To:	Marcelo D'alessio; pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Daniel MacKay
> Subject:	PC800: PC800 fuel gauge 
> 
> >The PC's gas gauge is skewed...it says half it really means a third, when
> > it's at the beginning of reserve you're about at a quarter.  You don't
> really run
> > out of gas until it points to the...
> 
> I just start looking for a gas station after I pass 160-170 miles.  If the
> road is pretty desolate I stop for gas before 150 miles.  Trying to eek over
> ounce of fuel from
> the tank before stopping shouldn't be the goal.
> 
> We're having weird weather in western Ohio.  I've been riding to work
> everyday, without having to wear a snowmobile suit or something similar.
> They're predicting low 70s for tomorrow.
> 
> Just ride and have fun and don't worry about minor inaccuracies in the fuel
> gauge!
> 
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 01:08:00 +0100

>Nolan have a helmet that matches your requirements. In England it is called
>the X-Lite 100, but in the USA it appears to be the Nolan 100. I have one, and
>I am very pleased with it - very comfortable and good quality.
>There is a website that may be useful for you, it is Helmets on Line at: 
>www.helmetsshop.com/index.html
>
It should be : http://www.helmetshop.com/index.htm
ProMotor magazine did a test on 'convertible helmets' a few
months ago. The Lazer didn't exist then. The BMW evolution 4
came out best. The Nolan is the quietest of them all (on a NAKED
bike) and the chinguard folds up very nice, but you need two hands
to open it. The BMW 4 came out best because of it's superior
comfort. It is much more expensive, but you do get your money worth.
I tried all the convertible helmets available here in Holland as well,
about 5 types, including the Nolan, but nothing is comfier than the BMW.
I didn't try the Lazer in my size yet, but since you can get the lining in
different thicknesses I think it must be possible to make it custom fit
perfectly. The Nolan was very hard around my forehead area.
Still because it's cheaper I think the Nolan is a great helmet for those
who just ride on sunny sundays. For people who ride a lot I suggest
the BMW or Lazer, both because of their comfort and because they
can be opened with one hand. For the true die hard (me) I don't think
there is any match for the Lazer. You can't wash the BMW lining and
it hasn't got a double lens (and it's more expensive). But I must admit
I have only tried the Lazer once. I still have to wear out my BMW 3 helmet : (.

Emile
http://fly.to/emile



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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Polish
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 01:17:29 +0100

>comes in a short, black, plastic "face cream" looking jar. I thought
>my wheels looked good until I finished with the polish. Now they
>glisten.
>
Glisten ? My wheels are black. Then again, I've have not cleaned
them in a year...  : )
No show of discoloring or corroding, it's a great solution. Saves a
lot of energy and time as well.  : )
Don't like glistening things I guess.......
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From: "Covert" <rcovert@halcyon.com>
To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:38:21 -0800

Another worthwhile feature of my new Arai (Quantum) are the
removable/replaceable cheek pads.  They come in several thicknesses and are
designed to give a better fit.  I liked the nifty helmet storage bag too -
no extra charge.  Then again these aren't low cost  helmets.

Motor Cycle Consumer news has an interesting comparison of full face
helmets.

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn.htm

Richard Covert

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From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>

New Arai helmets have a 5 year warranty.



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From: "Hilsinger, George" <HilsinG@WSDOT.WA.GOV>
To: "'PC800'" <PC800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re; Looking for a Helmet
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:08:20 -0800

Shoei also makes a Pearl White RF-800, and they and Arai can come pretty
close on the Magna Red.  I picked yellow for conspicuity.


George Hilsinger
HilsinG@wsdot.wa.gov
Yakima, WA
97 PC800
81 CM400
85 CMX250C (hers)
 
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:40:52 -0500
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: "Ray  F. Linder" <mail@lazerhelmets.com> (by way of Bob Patterson <bpatt@raex.com>)
Subject: PC800: RE: modular helmet

The modular helmet is sold as a snowmobile helmet in the US exclusively
by Ski-Doo (Bombardier). Because of the phenomenal success of this
product, it is very difficult to find.
A European street version is scheduled for release in January 1999. For
further info about European distribution, please contact
cross.lazer@infoboard.be.
Thank you,
Ray Linder.

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From: Bob Patterson [mailto:bpatt@raex.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 5:18 AM
To: mail@lazerhelmets.com
Subject: modular helmet


Are the Modular helmets available in the US?

Modular helmet:

http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/lazer.html

Bob


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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: interesting distribution
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:52:19 -0500

I was looking at the distribution by model year of PC owners (129) =
registered on the web site. Here's how it breaks down; you need to view =
this with a fixed width font (like courier):

'89|                             *
   -
'90|                  *
   -
'94|         *
   -
'95|      *
   -
'96|            *
   -
'97|                    *
   -
'98|                     *
       ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
               5        10       15       20      25      30       35
    =20
'89 - 31, '90 - 19, '94 - 10, '95 -  7, '96 - 13, '97 - 21, '98 - 22

Except for the '98 anomoly it looks like an inverted bell curve!

Jim Randall
the few, the proud, the '95s
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From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:00:25 -0500 (EST)
To: dingess@ecqual.net
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: 89 ForSale
	1998 07:38:52 -0500


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Hello Susan, Your message certainly was short. you could have at least
said hello.  What Price would you like to see?! Remember the ad does
read O.B.O.

Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne,Indiana
Awarded All American City Status For 1999


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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:38:52 -0500
From: Susan Dingess <dingess@ecqual.net>
To: David Klein <DavidAklein@webtv.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: 89 ForSale

David Klein wrote:
> 
> Hello P.C.ers!
> I would like to let it be known that a good friend's 1989 P.C. is still
> for sale. It has 9641 mi. on it. Not 8000 as was posted back on Nov.30.
> Sorry, I was told incorrectly by her husband. The PC has both tall &
> short windshields,passenger backrest, & 40 Ch. Realistic C.B. The C.B.
> has built in controls up front, while the CB unit is mounted in the
> trunk. This PC does not have the Stereo & it does not have any fancy
> striping or graphics. The owner wants to buy a Goldwing. Asking $4000
> O.B.O. for this lady owned & driven PearlWhite PC. If interested E-mail
> me direct. May your Christmas be White.
> 
> Dave Klein
> DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne,Indiana
> Awarded All American City Status For 1999
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From: "The Broeking's" <broeking@erols.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: "New" PC Web Page
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:00:11 -0500

I have a Pacific Coast Web page "under construction"  if anyone is
interested; just go to my web page below and click "motorcycles".  Cheers
Bob

Bob Broeking in Springfield, VA.... http://whitespider.aawsom.net
   "I'll get the rope..."Anderl Hinterstoisser, North Face of the
   Eiger, July 19th, 1936... broeking@erols.com


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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:39:37 -0600
From: Mike Nichols <mvnlan@cybrtyme.com>
To: PC800 Rider <pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us>
CC: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Re:

PC800 Rider wrote:
> 
> dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu writes:
> >hey Gang!
> >Still looking for suggestions on how to go about cleaning up the
> >wheels on my recently
> >purchased '90 PC. They aren't pitted, but badly discolored,
> >especially
> >the front. Any ideas?
> >Thanks!
> >jason
> >90 PC800
> 
> I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
> cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
> that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
> it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
> escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
> seen it in catalogs since.
> 
> I'll try to come up with a name.
> 
> Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
> Seneca Falls, New York 13148
> 
> AMA #688662
> HSTA #8387
> 
> "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
> 
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I use that kind of product. Works great! What I use is called "Never
Dull". Got it at AutoZone.

Mike Nichols
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:13:30 -0500
From: Scot Piper <scotp1965@mdn.net>
To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: [Fwd: Re: headlight modulator]


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FYI - Here is the latest from Andy at Kisan regarding the headlight
modulator.  

I sure wish my car had one for the clown that pulled out in front of me
today.  However, I think an AK-47 would've been more appropriate for
this brain dead guy.  

Back to business.  Does anyone have one of the tail blazer set up from
Kisan?  If so, what do you think of it?  I've seen the Kriss unit, but
not a Kisan.  It's not too late to add that to my Christmas list...  
:-)

Scot Piper
Midland, MI
'89 PC800 (#433)

ps.  I'm not on the PC800 list at this time.  My wife said I was having
too much fun and not getting other projects done...
----------------------------------------------

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From: "Andy" <andy@kisantech.com>
To: <scotp1965@mdn.net>
Subject: Re: headlight modulator 
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:46:17 -0800

Hi Scott:

Your observation about the 1 hr use corresponds with what we recorded for
the alternator output. Cold starts and full loading conditions produce most
electrical noise on the PC800.

Anyway, the filtering needed to keep those noise pulses out of the circuit
required completely new circuit board. It's taking a bit longer than we
thought. Expected time to release is about 2 weeks.

I'll keep you posted.

Andy 


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Date: 	Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:49:13 -0500
From: Joe Beresford <cableguy@no.one.net>
To: "The Broeking's" <broeking@erols.com>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: "New" PC Web Page

Well gollllyyyy it's a nice page at that...and I am humbled to be
included on your links page.......
thank you, thank you, thank you.......
Wow hey gang check his page out nice job!!!!
http://whitespider.aawsom.net/motorcycle.htm
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From: "Vartan Kazarov" <vkazarov@hotmail.com>
To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Does anybody have a service manual for sale
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:32:24 PST

Please reply via e-mail.  Thanks

Vartan

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:14:20 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Re:
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

I have a product like you described. It's trade name is "NEVER DULL" I
first used it in 1957 on unpainted aircraft and have been using it for
various alloy metal applications with a high degree of success. I find
the product at most automotive outlets.


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...



On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:47:12 -0500 pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)
writes:
>dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu writes:
>>hey Gang!
>>Still looking for suggestions on how to go about cleaning up the
>>wheels on my recently
>>purchased '90 PC. They aren't pitted, but badly discolored,
>>especially
>>the front. Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>>jason
>>90 PC800
>
>I have not needed to do this on mine yet, but I used to use a
>cotton-like material impregnated with a petroleum based product
>that comes in a metal can. You tear off the size wad you want and
>it works great. Totally non-abrasive. Unfortunately the name
>escapes me, but I know I bought it at a motorcycle shop and I have
>seen it in catalogs since.
>
>I'll try to come up with a name.
>
>Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>
>AMA #688662
>HSTA #8387
>
>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:03:19 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

This is indeed a good find on your part.


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...


On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:54:24 +0100 "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
writes:
>Why, I just saw the right thing for you.
>Check out http://www.emile.cybercomm.nl/lazer.html .
>Go to http://www.lazerhelmets.com to check for availability.
>The helmet is quit new. You can get different inside-paddings
>in different thicknesses and you can wash them. The visor
>is double, against fogging and it has a drop down sunvisor.
>Price in the US is around $300 and around €350 here.
>In the US sold by Ski-doo as snowmobil helmet, in Europe
>it's a fully EC-approved motorcycle helmet.
>The chinguard can be opened with one hand by pressing/squeezing
>two buttons up front.
>___
>[_  mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman"
>[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort
>
>A Tibet saying: "If the problem can be solved there is no use worrying 
>about it.
>If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."
>
>http://fly.to/emile
>ICQ 17992318
>Emile@Cybercomm.nl
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
>Aan: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
>Datum: dinsdag 8 december 1998 9:12
>Onderwerp: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
>
>
>>Not only the color, but also the style can be quite a pain to find. 
>I'm
>>looking for a helmet with a clip-off "jaw" (I'm not really sure what
>>else to call it!) and that moulding inside that fits over your nose 
>so
>>that the visor doesn't fog up. If anyone have something like this
>>pleaaase! let me know the make and model so that I can import it. I'm
>>past colors now, all I want is just the darn thing to do what I want 
>it
>>to do...
>>
>>Lohan
>>
>>
>>(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)
>>
>>Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800
>>Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda
>>
>> HSTA Member Number 7470
>>
>>(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)
>>
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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:29:27 -0600
Subject: Re: Re(2): PC800: Kriss
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

I too have the higher wattage Kriss unit and have had good results.
Interesting note: when the unit was new out of the box, I was doing a
bench test and could not get the unit to go to straight light out-put in
the presence of light at the sensor. Come to find out the sensor is
sensitive to IR and I was using a fluorescent (not much infra red
content.) I found with other experiments I could trigger the unit into
modulated mode with a soldering iron. I wonder is sensor location may
sometimes be a problem.


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...


On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:09:50 -0500 pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)
writes:
>mham@jps.net writes:
>>I purchased a used PC with a Kriss headlight modulator already
>>installed.
>>It did the same thing yours did after about a month of owning the
>>bike.  The
>>light was extremely dim and made a funny sound.  I have since
>>removed the
>>unit and it's sitting on a shelf with no plans of replacement.  I
>>am not
>>sold on the Kriss product.
>>
>>I understand a companies policy regarding the fact that you should
>>have
>>proof of purchase (which is why I never called the company, I
>>didn't
>>purchase the unit) but you would think that if their product is
>>defective,
>>they would replace it at little or no cost to the owner.  If they
>>can't
>>offer a long term guarantee, then it's probably not a quality
>>product.   Do
>>you want my unit?
>>
>>Mark Ham
>>'96 Pacific Coast
>
>I have to jump in here. I did not read the web site info yet that
>Tommy Teal referenced, but I have had my Kriss modulator since the
>end of July and have had nothing but good results. I bought the
>heavier duty of the 2 available units, so maybe someone on your
>used bike bought the smaller one and bumped up the wattage on the
>headlight bulb.
>
>I don't think I would expect the manufacturer of an item on a used
>motorcycle I bought to replace it, since I certainly could not be
>sure the previous owner had not done something wrong installing or
>using it.
>
>I have been reading about all the problems the  Kisan units are
>having on the PC800 and it makes me even more happy I made the
>choice I did.
>
>Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
>Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>
>AMA #688662
>HSTA #8387
>
>"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"
>
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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:08:33 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

Did you say that driving is South Africa is akin to a "endurance
contest"?


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...

On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:33:21 +0200  Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
writes:
>Hear-hear!
>
>You know you're in South Africa when the taxi behind you has right of
>way! Talking about driving for other people!
>
>Lohan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Zweigart [mailto:steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 4:44 PM
>To: Pacific Coast List
>Subject: Fw: PC800: Looking for Helmet... 
>
>
>Warranty....veeeeery interesting thought.
>
>When I bought the helmet, it was "new" on the showroom shelf with 
>oodles
>of
>other helmets.  There was NOTHING with it, but a little price 
>sticker.
>No
>tags, no cards, no box, no nothing.  At the time I bought it, I was
>"new-bike giddy" and guess I didn't caveat emptor very well.  I think 
>I
>may
>try to contact Arai directly, or go back to the dealer (though the
>dealer is
>a good 3 hours from here).  Always need an excuse to go to a bike 
>shop,
>though.
>
>I know full-face helmets are infinitely safer than my half helmet, 
>but
>there
>is NO comparison in comfort for me.  I also am beginning to believe 
>that
>there's some sort of an image thing that goes with the half-helmet
>versus
>full, sort of like chips versus crotch rocket pilot.  I've been 
>accused
>of t
>being a bike cop more than once, and I'd rather have that image when
>riding
>as oppposed to whatever other image(s) the cage drivers may tend to
>create
>in their tiny little minds.  I'm learning more and more that there is
>some
>major psychology to appearances on the road, meaning appearances of
>vehicles
>and their drivers, and the mental impact they make on observers.  I
>think in
>more circumstances than we realize, this may make differences in 
>drivers
>decisions and reactions on the road which, in some circumstances, may
>actually serve to protect us.  Of course, this doesn't protect us 
>from
>half-blind senile citizens.  (One of my elderly lady clients came in 
>the
>other day.  She informed me that she can only drive to places she can
>reach
>and return from making right turns.  Why?  She suffers from macular
>degeneration, and cannot see straight ahead.  She is not comfortable
>with
>left turns, therefore she only makes right turns.  She cannot see
>traffic
>signals, so bases her decision to go or stop on movements of traffic 
>she
>picks up in her peripheral vision.  Her optometrist, a friend of 
>mine,
>says
>she's legally blind.  But, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, in its vast
>wisdom,
>sees fit to license her to "drive."  I've discussed the matter with 
>her
>family members to no avail.  Moral of the story, BEWARE....they're 
>out
>there!)
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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: Pacific Coast 800 Mailing List <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:05:38 +0200 

Yes! Its a mission! Before apartheid was abolished the odd 10 years ago,
black and colored people had big difficulty in getting drivers licenses.
The K53 test was introduced four years ago, and we have some of the
toughest road tests in the world to get your license. Therefore, there's
still a lot of unlicensed drivers on our roads. For the road themselves,
they are in excellent condition with only the odd pothole after a few
days of heavy rain. We don't have snow either, so there's no cracks in
the road. All the main highways (national roads) are well maintained and
fenced off. 

All in all, your biggest threat is your fellow road users. Preventative
driving are the operative words here!

Regards
Lohan (http://members.xoom.com/lomaxx)

'89 PC800 (unnamed)


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From: rodneycarey@juno.com [mailto:rodneycarey@juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 12:09 AM
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...


Did you say that driving is South Africa is akin to a "endurance
contest"?


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...

On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:33:21 +0200  Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
writes:
>Hear-hear!
>
>You know you're in South Africa when the taxi behind you has right of
>way! Talking about driving for other people!
>
>Lohan
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:01:50 -0400
To: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
From: Francois Saint Laurent <fsl@borgconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: interesting distribution

At 8:52 PM -0500 12/8/98, Jim Randall wrote:
>I was looking at the distribution by model year of PC owners (129)
>registered on the web site. Here's how it breaks down; you need to view
>this with a fixed width font (like courier):


Thanks Jim.


I always knew I had the nicest color of PC800, but now you have confirmed
that I also have the most exclusive model year!

fsl   :-)


Let the flames begin......



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From: "Prince, Roger" <RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com>
To: "'Jim Randall'" <jrandall@tricon.net>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: interesting distribution
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:23:44 -0500 

I don't find the registry accessible.  It looks to me that there are 300+ registered.
I also think there are many more 96 models.  I can't find my registration.

Roger

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jim Randall [SMTP:jrandall@tricon.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 08, 1998 8:52 PM
> To:	'PC800 List'
> Subject:	PC800: interesting distribution
> 
> I was looking at the distribution by model year of PC owners (129) registered on the web site. Here's how it breaks down; you need to view this with a fixed width font (like courier):
> 
> '89|                             *
>    -
> '90|                  *
>    -
> '94|         *
>    -
> '95|      *
>    -
> '96|            *
>    -
> '97|                    *
>    -
> '98|                     *
>        ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
>                5        10       15       20      25      30       35
>      
> '89 - 31, '90 - 19, '94 - 10, '95 -  7, '96 - 13, '97 - 21, '98 - 22
> 
> Except for the '98 anomoly it looks like an inverted bell curve!
> 
> Jim Randall
> the few, the proud, the '95s
> jrandall@tricon.net
> http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/
> 
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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'Prince, Roger'" <RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com>,
        "'PC800 List'"
	 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: interesting distribution
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:18:42 -0500

I just selected the "Download registry in tab delimited form" option. There 
were a few 10 or so who didn't list a model - the breakdown is just for th 
129 who did.

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From:	Prince, Roger [SMTP:RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, December 09, 1998 11:24
To:	'Jim Randall'; 'PC800 List'
Subject:	RE: PC800: interesting distribution

I don't find the registry accessible.  It looks to me that there are 300+ 
registered.
I also think there are many more 96 models.  I can't find my registration.

Roger

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jim Randall [SMTP:jrandall@tricon.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 08, 1998 8:52 PM
> To:	'PC800 List'
> Subject:	PC800: interesting distribution
>
> I was looking at the distribution by model year of PC owners (129) 
registered on the web site. Here's how it breaks down; you need to view 
this with a fixed width font (like courier):
>
> '89|                             *
>    -
> '90|                  *
>    -
> '94|         *
>    -
> '95|      *
>    -
> '96|            *
>    -
> '97|                    *
>    -
> '98|                     *
>        ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
>                5        10       15       20      25      30       35
>
> '89 - 31, '90 - 19, '94 - 10, '95 -  7, '96 - 13, '97 - 21, '98 - 22
>
> Except for the '98 anomoly it looks like an inverted bell curve!
>
> Jim Randall
> the few, the proud, the '95s
> jrandall@tricon.net
> http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/
>
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:30:06 -0600
From: "David L. Sigsbee" <dsigsbee@memphis.edu>
Subject: PC800: 1990 Accessories Blurb
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu
X-Corel-MessageType: EMail

A while back, under an unlikely thread, I offered to give away several
PC brochures I had.  They all got claimed except for a 1990 Hondaline
Pacific Coast Accessories blurb.  It is a one pager with a picture of
the 1990 model on one side, and on the reverse all of the Hondaline
accessories available at the time are pictured.  It's a bit shopworn
with a very minor stain at the bottom.

If any of you would like it, it's yours for free.  First request gets
it.  Send me a snailmail address.

--David

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Fw: cake
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:43:30 +0100



Try this recipe - I think you'll like it - I sure do!

BEST EVER RUM CAKE 
1 TSP Sugar 
1 Cup Dried Fruit 
1 TSP Soda 
2 Large Eggs 
Lemon Juice 
1 or 2 quarts Rum 
Brown Sugar 
1 Cup Butter 
1 TSP Baking Powder 
1 Cup Chopped Nuts 

Before starting, sample rum to check quality. Good, isn't it? Now
proceed.

Select large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check rum again. It must
be just right. To be sure rum is of proper quality, pour one level cup
of rum into a glass and drink it as fast as you can. Repeat. 

With electric mixer, beat one cup of butter in a large, fluffy bowl. Add
1 seaspoon of thugar and beat again. Meanwhile, make sure rum is still
alright. Try another cup.

Open second quart, if necessary. Add leggs, 2 cups of fried druit and
beat till high. If druit gets stuck in beaters, pry loose with a
drewscriber.

Sample rum again, checking for tonscisticity. Next, stir 3 cups of
pepper or salt (it really doesn't matter). Sample rum. Sift 1/2 pint
lemon juice. Fold in chopped butter and stained nuts. Add 1 bablespoon
of brown sugar or whatever color you can find. Mix well. Grease oven.
Turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Pour mess into boven and ake. Check rum
again and bo to ged.




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From: "David A. Ah Sing" <dahsing@as.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: ...attempting to regain access to the PC listserver...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:10:03 -0800
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Dear Sages of the Pacific CoaST,

    This is an attempt to regain my place on the list after formatting =
my hard drive.

Name: David A. Ah Sing

Location: Edwards Air Force Base, California

Email: dahsing@as.net

PC Model year: 1989 Pearl

Purchased Used - Two previous owners both small in stature (individuals =
who both had difficulty in keeping a  500+ lb..  motorcycle upright.

Modifications: Vista Cruise, Hondaline Tall Windshield, Chrome "Live to =
Ride" license plate holder? LOL

can't wait to get back on the list and receive more email than I can =
deal with...

    Dave


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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:07:00 +0100
From: Emile Nossin <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
Subject: Re: PC800: Fw: cake
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>

Oops, sorry, wrong adress..
All this technology.....

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Emile Nossin <Emile@CyberComm.nl>
Aan: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Datum: woensdag 9 december 1998 21:56
Onderwerp: PC800: Fw: cake




Try this recipe - I think you'll like it - I sure do!

BEST EVER RUM CAKE 
1 TSP Sugar 
1 Cup Dried Fruit 
1 TSP Soda 
2 Large Eggs 
Lemon Juice 
1 or 2 quarts Rum 
Brown Sugar 
1 Cup Butter 
1 TSP Baking Powder 
1 Cup Chopped Nuts 

Before starting, sample rum to check quality. Good, isn't it? Now
proceed.

Select large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check rum again. It must
be just right. To be sure rum is of proper quality, pour one level cup
of rum into a glass and drink it as fast as you can. Repeat. 

With electric mixer, beat one cup of butter in a large, fluffy bowl. Add
1 seaspoon of thugar and beat again. Meanwhile, make sure rum is still
alright. Try another cup.

Open second quart, if necessary. Add leggs, 2 cups of fried druit and
beat till high. If druit gets stuck in beaters, pry loose with a
drewscriber.

Sample rum again, checking for tonscisticity. Next, stir 3 cups of
pepper or salt (it really doesn't matter). Sample rum. Sift 1/2 pint
lemon juice. Fold in chopped butter and stained nuts. Add 1 bablespoon
of brown sugar or whatever color you can find. Mix well. Grease oven.
Turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Pour mess into boven and ake. Check rum
again and bo to ged.




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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:33:07 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: ...attempting to regain access to the PC listserver...
To: dahsing@as.net
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

dahsing@as.net writes:
>Dear Sages of the Pacific CoaST,
>
>    This is an attempt to regain my place on the list after
>formatting my hard drive.
>
>Name: David A. Ah Sing
>
>Location: Edwards Air Force Base, California
>
>Email: dahsing@as.net
>
>PC Model year: 1989 Pearl
>
>Purchased Used - Two previous owners both small in stature
>(individuals who both had difficulty in keeping a  500+ lb.. 
>motorcycle upright.
>
>Modifications: Vista Cruise, Hondaline Tall Windshield, Chrome
>"Live to Ride" license plate holder? LOL
>
>can't wait to get back on the list and receive more email than I
>can deal with...
>
>    Dave

Nothing has changed while you were gone Dave. Prepare your newly
formatted hard drive to store more good information than you can
deal with again:-)

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

"The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!"

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Date: 	Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:23:16 -0500
From: Joe Beresford <cableguy@no.one.net>
To: HSTA List <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>, pc 800 list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: attn: you INDIAN lovers

this might intrest you local article on Indian comeback.....
http://enquirer.com/editions/1998/12/09/bus_indian09.html


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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
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Subject: PC800: The Primus Meet ,should I dare this with the PC ?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:32:24 +0100



The Primus meet.=20
An ancient Norwegian tradition. What do you do when its minus 20 degrees =
centigrade outside? Go to a rally!=20


The Primus-Meet of 1996


>From Bicilindrica Nr. 2, 1996
By Andor (Medl. nr. 506)
Rewritten in English by Ths. J. Johnson



This year, too! What is it that drives us to this meet, year after year, =
through snow and cold and over impassible roads? It's more than I can =
understand. Some great annual form of madness that I at least, am =
completely helpless to withstand. I simply must heed the call.=20

But... as if this unaccountable urge wasn't enough, this year's =
preparations were tinged with panic. As departure time neared, a burned =
exhaust valve on the right cylinder threatened to end the trip before it =
began. I guess I should have been expecting it after 250,000 kilometers, =
but that sort of thing is always a shock, I guess. Luckily, both the =
importer and Veakrossen Motorsenter understood what was at stake, and =
the valves (yes - both sides, just to be sure) were in place in less =
than a week. Sigvald at Motorsyklisten A.S. has my thanks for good =
advice and telephonic understanding - and all for just NOK 240 (ca. 40 =
USD) pr. valve. My good buddy, BMW-owner and mechanic Terje Gressg=E5rd, =
helped the valves to their seats, and the Primus-Meet for 1996 was in my =
future once again.=20

As usual, Caspar was ready to go. This year he had a "sidecar-slave" =
from Karm=F8y with him on his newly restored BMW. We arrived in Odda on =
Thursday evening, in beautiful winter weather. And beautiful weather is =
what was in store for us most of the weekend. We stayed the night at =
Jan-Arne Karstensen's house, who joined us from there. The final member =
of our group was Renate S=F8rheim - the only girl to drive a bike =
herself, and that all the way from Western Norway. She had a BMW with a =
sidecar.=20

At sunrise on Friday morning, we plugged our visors, grips and soles to =
the electricity, and were underway by 9 O'clock. Driving conditions on =
the way to Eidfjord were poor, with both ice-mounds and gouged channels =
in the roadway. Worse, right in the middle of the Eidfjord Tunnel, my =
Guzzi began to cough and spit. I reached down to turn on the reserve =
tank, and SURPRISE! It was already open!=20

You can imagine the joy I spread among the rest of the group. Up to that =
point, my old Guzzi had never failed. The BMW-bikers had time and time =
again experienced small problems with their bikes, and I admit that I =
had been the first to throw stones. Now the "Beemers" had the chance to =
even the score.=20

I stopped a tractor, and the pleasant farmer-type behind the wheel towed =
me to the gas-station - just 200 meters down the road. The guys (and =
girl) were waiting for me when I rolled up to the pumps. They were sure =
that my Guzzi was having motor-troubles, and were quite unhappy with a =
simple gas shortage. To make matters even worse, they forgot to get out =
their cameras. Ha ! He who laughs last... The farmer topped everything =
off by not taking a single krown (NOK) for the job. It probably didn't =
hurt that I had a "No to the EEC" "bumper sticker. too!=20

We crossed the Hardanger plateau and stopped to tank up at Geilo. =
Everything was going like a charm now. After Geilo, we continued on over =
Hedalen. The roads were, by this time, white with a drifting layer of =
snow. What a kick it is to wind an MC out in conditions like that.=20

We were in Nes at about 3 O'clock. From there, it was a jaunt up through =
Bjonesskauen to find the Meet. President Pauslen himself welcomed us, =
this year as in previous years. The campground swarmed with people we =
knew, and the welcome-drinks were plentiful.=20

Once the bikes were dug down into a snowdrift, it was time to dig out a =
tent-site. The shovel went from hand to hand with great enthusiasm. The =
thermometer read -18 c. (about 0 Fahrenheit.). What could be better? It =
was Friday, the Primus (Coleman) hissed quietly, and Caspar's stew =
bubbled in the pot. Everyone had something good in their cup, and the =
stories were flying. It was first far into the wee hours of the night =
that the time for creeping down into sleeping bags with hot-water =
bottles arrived.=20

Saturday morning is the time for those long, rambling stories about =
everything and nothing at all. The mild euphoria of a relaxed morning =
gradually increased as the cognac washed down by beer took effect. =
Breakfast de Lux was conjured from the primus - warm bread, sausages and =
more. Much more. In fact, the central theme of the Primus Meet is good =
food. Tradition true, we dined on venison with all the trimmings that =
evening.=20

It was a colorful gathering there in the woods that day. People had =
arrived on everything from go-carts with home-made studded tires (slicks =
with about 10,000 studs) to old Nimbuses to modern Tupperware from =
Japan. On Saturday evening there was a grand birthday-party for a couple =
of Guzzi-guys. Someone whipped together a birthday-cake then and there, =
and served cake and champagne to everyone in the vicinity in the best =
"stiff-upper-lip" style. Later, Radio P4 came and interviewed a group =
from Western Norway. Ms. Radio- reporter recorded such an outburst of =
energy and joy-of-living that she had no problem understanding what we =
were doing out in the snowy woods instead of lounging on the sofa at =
home. And everyone knows, a primusman doesn't ever get cold, just blue. =
She was impressed.=20

As night came on, fires were lit and everyone kept the party going. For =
a while. But a long day on the road home dictates a good night's sleep, =
and things quieted down at a sensible hour. A solid breakfast the next =
morning started things off, and soon everyone was packing their bikes. =
It wasn't as cold as it had been on earlier Primus Meets, only -10 c., =
but a quick warm-up with a primus under the motorpan is kind of a =
tradition, too. My Guzzi roared to life without the slightest =
hesitation.=20

The fine winter-weather at the start of the day with made everything =
easy. We took a quick telephone to the weather-service before we made =
our good-byes. Poor driving conditions had closed the Hardanger plateau =
for free travel, and we didn't care to drive in a colonne. That left us =
with a more southerly route over Haukeli Mountain.=20

We made a short stop at Edland for dinner. Our inmarch received about =
the same attention a party of astronauts would have awaken in the =
restaurant. The wind had picked up a good deal after dinner, and we were =
a bit sceptical to conditions on the mountain pass. We drove on, but =
visibility deteriorated as the amount of wind and snow increased. About =
halfway up the mountainside, we dropped in behind a semi. Things went =
slower that way, but it was good to have a snowplow and pathfinder. We =
followed the semi until we were in the last tunnel of the ascent. There =
we blew past and punched the bikes over the high plateau. We were a bit =
worried by the possibility of running into a snowdrift blocking the =
highway, but made the crossing without any problems. The real snowplows =
had been out on the far side of the plateau, and the riding there was =
much easier. The only stretch of road left on the journey home that =
wasn't plowed clean was around Flatdal. But even there it wasn't bad =
enough to give us any real difficulties. Soon we were home.=20

The Primus-Meet is not something you forget the next day - or week. It =
rests heavily on both body and soul for a long time. Who knows how =
long... We'll just have to wait and see what happens next year. In the =
meantime, we can stay in practice with the more light-hearted =
summer-Meets. And there are plenty of things that need some attention: =
the spring shine-up, summer tires, oil-change and so on. That's what =
keeps us going, Guzzi-style. There really is something about these old =
Italians.=20

----------------------------------------------------
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* Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: =
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----------------------------------------------------

I guess=20
I should have been expecting it after 250,000 kilometers, but that sort =
of thing=20
is always a shock, I guess. Luckily, both the importer and Veakrossen=20
Motorsenter understood what was at stake, and the valves (yes - both =
sides, just=20
to be sure) were in place in less than a week. Sigvald at Motorsyklisten =
A.S.=20
has my thanks for good advice and telephonic understanding - and all for =
just=20
NOK 240 (ca. 40 USD) pr. valve. My good buddy, BMW-owner and mechanic =
Terje=20
Gressg&aring;rd, helped the valves to their seats, and the Primus-Meet =
for 1996=20
was in my future once again. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As usual, Caspar was ready to go. This year he had a=20
&quot;sidecar-slave&quot; from Karm&oslash;y with him on his newly =
restored BMW.=20
We arrived in Odda on Thursday evening, in beautiful winter weather. And =

beautiful weather is what was in store for us most of the weekend. We =
stayed the=20
night at Jan-Arne Karstensen's house, who joined us from there. The =
final member=20
of our group was Renate S&oslash;rheim - the only girl to drive a bike =
herself,=20
and that all the way from Western Norway. She had a BMW with a sidecar. =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>At sunrise on Friday morning, we plugged our visors, grips and =
soles to the=20
electricity, and were underway by 9 O'clock. Driving conditions on the =
way to=20
Eidfjord were poor, with both ice-mounds and gouged channels in the =
roadway.=20
Worse, right in the middle of the Eidfjord Tunnel, my Guzzi began to =
cough and=20
spit. I reached down to turn on the reserve tank, and SURPRISE! It was =
already=20
open! </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You can imagine the joy I spread among the rest of the group. Up to =
that=20
point, my old Guzzi had never failed. The BMW-bikers had time and time =
again=20
experienced small problems with their bikes, and I admit that I had been =
the=20
first to throw stones. Now the &quot;Beemers&quot; had the chance to =
even the=20
score. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I stopped a tractor, and the pleasant farmer-type behind the wheel =
towed me=20
to the gas-station - just 200 meters down the road. The guys (and girl) =
were=20
waiting for me when I rolled up to the pumps. They were sure that my =
Guzzi was=20
having motor-troubles, and were quite unhappy with a simple gas =
shortage. To=20
make matters even worse, they forgot to get out their cameras. Ha ! He =
who=20
laughs last... The farmer topped everything off by not taking a single =
krown=20
(NOK) for the job. It probably didn't hurt that I had a &quot;No to the=20
EEC&quot; &quot;bumper sticker. too! </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We crossed the Hardanger plateau and stopped to tank up at Geilo.=20
Everything was going like a charm now. After Geilo, we continued on over =

Hedalen. The roads were, by this time, white with a drifting layer of =
snow. What=20
a kick it is to wind an MC out in conditions like that. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We were in Nes at about 3 O'clock. From there, it was a jaunt up =
through=20
Bjonesskauen to find the Meet. President Pauslen himself welcomed us, =
this year=20
as in previous years. The campground swarmed with people we knew, and =
the=20
welcome-drinks were plentiful. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Once the bikes were dug down into a snowdrift, it was time to dig =
out a=20
tent-site. The shovel went from hand to hand with great enthusiasm. The=20
thermometer read -18 c. (about 0 Fahrenheit.). What could be better? It =
was=20
Friday, the Primus (Coleman) hissed quietly, and Caspar's stew bubbled =
in the=20
pot. Everyone had something good in their cup, and the stories were =
flying. It=20
was first far into the wee hours of the night that the time for creeping =
down=20
into sleeping bags with hot-water bottles arrived. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Saturday morning is the time for those long, rambling stories about =

everything and nothing at all. The mild euphoria of a relaxed morning =
gradually=20
increased as the cognac washed down by beer took effect. Breakfast de =
Lux was=20
conjured from the primus - warm bread, sausages and more. Much more. In =
fact,=20
the central theme of the Primus Meet is good food. Tradition true, we =
dined on=20
venison with all the trimmings that evening. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It was a colorful gathering there in the woods that day. People had =
arrived=20
on everything from go-carts with home-made studded tires (slicks with =
about=20
10,000 studs) to old Nimbuses to modern Tupperware from Japan. On =
Saturday=20
evening there was a grand birthday-party for a couple of Guzzi-guys. =
Someone=20
whipped together a birthday-cake then and there, and served cake and =
champagne=20
to everyone in the vicinity in the best &quot;stiff-upper-lip&quot; =
style.=20
Later, Radio P4 came and interviewed a group from Western Norway. Ms. =
Radio-=20
reporter recorded such an outburst of energy and joy-of-living that she =
had no=20
problem understanding what we were doing out in the snowy woods instead =
of=20
lounging on the sofa at home. And everyone knows, a primusman doesn't =
ever get=20
cold, just blue. She was impressed. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As night came on, fires were lit and everyone kept the party going. =
For a=20
while. But a long day on the road home dictates a good night's sleep, =
and things=20
quieted down at a sensible hour. A solid breakfast the next morning =
started=20
things off, and soon everyone was packing their bikes. It wasn't as cold =
as it=20
had been on earlier Primus Meets, only -10 c., but a quick warm-up with =
a primus=20
under the motorpan is kind of a tradition, too. My Guzzi roared to life =
without=20
the slightest hesitation. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The fine winter-weather at the start of the day with made =
everything easy.=20
We took a quick telephone to the weather-service before we made our =
good-byes.=20
Poor driving conditions had closed the Hardanger plateau for free =
travel, and we=20
didn't care to drive in a colonne. That left us with a more southerly =
route over=20
Haukeli Mountain. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We made a short stop at Edland for dinner. Our inmarch received =
about the=20
same attention a party of astronauts would have awaken in the =
restaurant. The=20
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to=20
conditions on the mountain pass. We drove on, but visibility =
deteriorated as the=20
amount of wind and snow increased. About halfway up the mountainside, we =
dropped=20
in behind a semi. Things went slower that way, but it was good to have a =

snowplow and pathfinder. We followed the semi until we were in the last =
tunnel=20
of the ascent. There we blew past and punched the bikes over the high =
plateau.=20
We were a bit worried by the possibility of running into a snowdrift =
blocking=20
the highway, but made the crossing without any problems. The real =
snowplows had=20
been out on the far side of the plateau, and the riding there was much =
easier.=20
The only stretch of road left on the journey home that wasn't plowed =
clean was=20
around Flatdal. But even there it wasn't bad enough to give us any real=20
difficulties. Soon we were home. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Primus-Meet is not something you forget the next day - or week. =
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rests heavily on both body and soul for a long time. Who knows how =
long... We'll=20
just have to wait and see what happens next year. In the meantime, we =
can stay=20
in practice with the more light-hearted summer-Meets. And there are =
plenty of=20
things that need some attention: the spring shine-up, summer tires, =
oil-change=20
and so on. That's what keeps us going, Guzzi-style. There really is =
something=20
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 98 23:39:21 -00800 (PST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 folk)
Subject: PC800: Fat tired and merry - from Juan and Crystal Goula

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From: MTKoeller@aol.com
	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:36:21 -0500 (EST)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:36:21 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: (no subject)

Hello Everyone!
   I am the original owner of this '90 PC 800 and it's been a great bike! I
use to use it mainly for commuting to work but now family obligations require
me to drive (drop off and pick up kids each day) and I just don't get enough
use out of it anymore to justify keeping it. It has 31.2K miles - has been
garaged kept and has a backrest, cover, and service manual. It's in very good
condition and has been a trouble free bike. I am asking $3,200 for it. I am in
the Los Angeles area. Please let me know if interested.
Thanks,
Mike
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:43:37 -0600
From: "David L. Sigsbee" <dsigsbee@memphis.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: 1990 Accessories Blurb
To: PC800 <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Reply-to: dsigsbee@memphis.edu
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Ok  guys and guyettes.  The accessories blurb is gone.  I sent it to
Elton in Ontario.  Can't believe how popular it was after getting no
response the first time.

--David

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From: "Chuck Chiodini" <chiodinc@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Fayetteville, NC Rider
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:38:29 PST

Jeff Rivers:
      You left a message on my answering machine that you wanted to get 
together for a ride. You bet! I could not get back to you on the phone 
number you left. Please send me an "off list" e-mail and we'll set 
something up. Long or short rides, anytime, anyplace is good for me!

Looking forward to meeting you (and anyone else from this list)
Chuck in Fayettiville, NC
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From: "Piper, Scot A." <scot.piper@hscpoly.com>
To: "'PC800@hpc.uh.edu'" <PC800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Baker Air Wings
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:01:06 -0500

Does anyone have Baker Air Wings on their PC800?  If so, do they work
well?  And where is a good source to purchase - or what is an
alternative option?  I'd like to add something to the outlet ports to
direct the warm engine air away from my knees in the summer, and direct
warm air toward my legs in the cooler months.  Would be nice to have a
simple method to do this, and yet a device that looks nice cosmetically.
Thanks.

PS.  I'm not on the list, please reply to me privately. 

Regards,

SCOT PIPER
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From: "PCSG Ltd." <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Fw: [rospasussex] Health Warning
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:28:12 -0000

Hi Brian,

Are you free to make it to this one?!

Job

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From: sue schofield <sueschofield@compuserve.com>
To: INTERNET:rospasussex@egroups.com
Cc: Derek Stewart <Derek@stewart99.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [rospasussex] Health Warning
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 5:23 PM

Curry 'Lunch'

Despite  repeated warnings several people have decided to risk everything
and attend the Non Chr*stm*s Watchamacallit in Eastbourne. 

If you're coming please try and be there for 12:00, as this will ensure
that you all arrive at 12:30. 

'Food' will be on the buffet from about then. Price, ten squids a head,
with sprogs at 3.95. I understand the sprogs are quite delicous on their
own, or served with chutney. 

If you get lost remember that Eastbourne is famous for its street gangs of
roaming elderly people. Keep your windows closed and don't respond to
provocation. Avoid eye contact and keep your valuables out of sight. 

0973 161 746 for abuse on the day if you can't find the place. No fighting
please. 

Hasta La Vista!!

Suz. 


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Eastbourne 
Behind the Pedestrian Precinct thing at the Pier end. 
Nearest Parking for c*rs is at the Trinity Trees C*r park. 

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: The Primus Meet ,should I dare this with the PC ?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:32:20 +0100

>>>The Primus meet. 
An ancient Norwegian tradition. What do you do when its minus 20 degrees centigrade outside? Go to a rally! 
>... And everyone knows, a primusman doesn't ever get cold, just blue. She was impressed....

Incredible. Quite a story. Shouldn't be a problem with the PC, right ?
Full fairing, salt damage hidden by the plastic, why not ?
Must be a lot of frustrated Norwegian roadworkers in that group, where else
would you find such a big group of crazy people ? ; ))
___
[_  mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman"
[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort
 
"If the problem can be solved there is no use worrying about it.
If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."

http://fly.to/emile
ICQ 17992318
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From: "Tim J. Clevenger" <TClevenger@paypros.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: RE: How others see you...
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:25:38 -0800
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Answers below.  :-)

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From: 	Emile Nossin[SMTP:Emile@Cybercomm.nl]
Sent: 	Thursday, December 10, 1998 2:08 PM
To: 	Arjan en Marjolijn; Arjan Hiemstra; Doug; Erik Baretta; Gerard =
Diepeveen; Giuseppe; Humberto Vieira Rijo; Jan Gerritsen; Julie Hendrix; =
Lippert, Jim; Lohan Johnson; Maarten; Marco Reitsema; Martijn Buter; =
Patrick in Louisiana; Robert Lechner; Tim J. Clevenger; Victor Hageman; =
Yetvart
Subject: 	Fw: How others see you...

>
>Take the quiz, and don't cheat!!  IT's really accurate!
>
>
>
>HOW OTHERS SEE YOU....
>
>Keep track of your letter answers.
>
>1. When do you feel your best?
>(a) In the morning
>(b) During the afternoon and early evening
>=A9 Late at night

When riding my PC.

>2. You usually walk
>(a) fairly fast, with long steps
>(b) fairly fast, but with short, quick steps
>=A9 less fast, head up, looking the world in the face
>(d) less fast, head down
>(e) very slowly

When I have a flat tire.

>3. When talking to people, you
>(a) stand with your arms folded
>(b) have your hands clasped
>=A9 have one or both your hands on your hips
>(d) touch or push the person to whom you are talking
>(e) play with your ear, touch your chin, or smooth your hair

Keep my hand over the accelerator and clutch so I can speed away when =
the conversation turns boring.

>4. When relaxing, you sit with
>(a) your knees bent and your legs neatly side by side
>(b) your legs crossed
>=A9 your legs stretched out or straight
>(d) with one lag curled under you

Feet all the way back, propped up on the passenger pegs.

>5. When something really amuses you, you react with
>(a) a big, appreciative laugh
>(b) a laugh, but not a loud one
>=A9 a quiet chuckle
>(d) a big smile
>(e) a sheepish smile

A quick thumbs up and a couple of beeps on the horn.

>6. When you go to a party or social gathering, you
>(a) make a loud entrance so everyone notices you
>(b) make a quiet entrance, looking around for someone you know
>=A9 make quietest possible entrance and try to stay unnoticed

Stash plenty of cold drinks and ice in the trunk.

>7. You are working hard, concentrating hard. You are interrupted.
>You
>(a) welcome the break
>(b) feel extremely irritated
>=A9 vary between these two extremes

Accelerate rashly to get away from the disturbance or take the nearest =
exit and stop for some coffee.

>8. Which of the following colors do you like most?
>(a) red or orange
>(b) black
>=A9 yellow or light blue
>(d) green
>(e) dark blue or purple
>(f) white
>(g) brown or gray

Magna red, with black undercarriage.

>9. When you are in bed at night, in those last few moments before
going to
>sleep, you lie
>(a) stretched out on your back
>(b) stretched out face dawn on your stomach
>=A9 on your side, slightly curled
>(d) with your head on one arm
>(e) with your head under the covers

With my head at the foot of the bed, looking out the window at my PC =
parked below.

>10. You often dream that you are
>(a) falling
>(b) fighting or struggling
>=A9 searching for something or somebody
>(d) flying or floating
>(e) You usually have a dreamless sleep
>(f) You're dreams are always pleasant

Riding through a typical Georgia fall, between rows of trees with a =
gentle breeze pushing the autumn leaves around.

>Add the total number of points.

Uh, zero I guess.

>UNDER 21 POINTS:
>People think you are shy, nervous, and indecisive, someone
>who needs to be looked after, who always wants someone
>else to make the decisions and who doesn't want to get involved
>with anyone or anything. They see you as a worrier, who sees
>problems that don't exist. Some people think you're boring.
>Only the people who know you well know that you aren't.
>The trouble is that you don't let very many people get close to
>you.

Doh!  That's okay, I always preferred the riding test to the written =
test anyway.  :-)


Regards,

Tim Clevenger
Fremont, CA
'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16") 

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To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:03:13 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: The Primus Meet ,should I dare this with the PC ?
From: rodneycarey@juno.com (Rodney E Carey)

In Minnesota (USA) they sez "dem Norwidgins they be tuff ya sure"


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...



On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:32:20 +0100 "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
writes:
>>>>The Primus meet. 
>An ancient Norwegian tradition. What do you do when its minus 20 
>degrees centigrade outside? Go to a rally! 
>>... And everyone knows, a primusman doesn't ever get cold, just blue. 
>She was impressed....
>
>Incredible. Quite a story. Shouldn't be a problem with the PC, right 
>?
>Full fairing, salt damage hidden by the plastic, why not ?
>Must be a lot of frustrated Norwegian roadworkers in that group, where 
>else
>would you find such a big group of crazy people ? ; ))
>___
>[_  mile Nossin, '90 PC "The Flying Dutchman"
>[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort
> 
>"If the problem can be solved there is no use worrying about it.
>If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."
>
>http://fly.to/emile
>ICQ 17992318
>Emile@Cybercomm.nl
>
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re:CrackHead Rod, Links on my homepage ????
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:27:44 +0100



I have used tonite to try to get all PC related homepages on my =
linksite. If there is still someone who would like to be on the list, =
please check:

http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/Guestbook.html

and if You are not on , please let me know.

Regarding the Primus Rally I got a letter signed by:
CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...

Why name it after Ms. Lewinski

Anything about that Lady that I have not heard about by now ???

Regards
Arvid=20

Norway





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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Re: Re:CrackHead Rod, Links on my homepage ????
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:34:18 +0100



    Didnt Ms. Lewinski keep her dress for memories sake, when it was =
soiled ? You do rince "Monica's"  white dress after You have soiled =
here, dont You ?
   =20
    T-S-
   =20
   =20
   =20
   =20
    1994 Pacific Coast
    Name;    "Monica"
    8500 Miles and lot's more to come...
   =20
    Why name it after Ms. Lewinski
   =20
    Anything about that Lady that I have not heard about by now ???
    =20
    Regards
    Arvid=20
    =20
    Norway



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From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:15:46 -0500 (EST)
To: jrandall@tricon.net (Jim Randall)
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ('PC800 List')
Subject: Re: PC800: interesting distribution
	20:52:19 -0500


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Season's Greetings Jim,
COOL! ---the way you broke down the # per year.  I checked out your web
page--- COOL!!  I printed off the instructions for the Hiway Pegs.
Thankyou for that.;-}  It's something i wanted to do to my 97PC but
did'nt have a clue as to how to go about it.    Do you still intend to
show us how you mounted your CB & antenna? I would like to know more
about that.    It was neat to see you live in Tenn. My better half
{wife} & i were married in Townsend {near Pigeon Forge}, Oct. 96.    The
picture of your daughter next to the Honda CB360 brought back memories.
In 73-74 i had both the CB & CL 350/360 Honda's. I had engine trouble
with both! On the CB I had high rise handle bars, hiway pegs, & a real
tall sissy bar on the back. On the weekends I would load up my
Backpack/camping equipment, & Bow & Arrows & ride 2.5 hrs. up I-94 to
Deer hunt in  B. R. F. s,  Wisc.  In a strong headwind with the throttle
wide open i could only do 60 m.p.h. I guess i burned up the engine. :-}
Those were my High School days.  The Hiway Pegs for the PC will make a
great Winter Project. Thanks again.


Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne, IND.
Merry Christmas to you & yours!
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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: interesting distribution
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:52:19 -0500

I was looking at the distribution by model year of PC owners (129) =
registered on the web site. Here's how it breaks down; you need to view =
this with a fixed width font (like courier):

'89|                             *
   -
'90|                  *
   -
'94|         *
   -
'95|      *
   -
'96|            *
   -
'97|                    *
   -
'98|                     *
       ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
               5        10       15       20      25      30       35
    =20
'89 - 31, '90 - 19, '94 - 10, '95 -  7, '96 - 13, '97 - 21, '98 - 22

Except for the '98 anomoly it looks like an inverted bell curve!

Jim Randall
the few, the proud, the '95s
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From: "Philips Wong" <pca420@hotmail.com>
To: dds348@soda.dent.unc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fsl@borgconsulting.com
Subject: Re: PC800: Re:
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:23:12 PST

I second that.

>I have used a wheel polish called Autosol , which comes in a black >and 
gold squeeze tube.   The results are excellent...

AUTOSOL is a good stuff for aluminium polishing.  You may also use
a piece of 3M scuff pad to remove those whittish oxidation and then
polish with AUTOSOL for a near chrome finish.  That will save you hours 
of polishing.

- Philips Wong
  Constable, Hong Kong Auxiliary Police (riding officer of course)
   Colonial Special Constabulary Medal - 1997
  GWRRA # 101177, Wing & PC rider
   1984 Aspencade, 1995 SE Candy Red, 1990 PC800 Candy Red
  Vice chairman, Safe Rider (HK) Association
  The lizard guy - breeder and proud owner of 30 Chinese Water Dragons


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Cc: "Jan Gerritsen" <jan.gerritsen@gironet.nl>, "Yetvart" <yetvart@hetnet.nl>,
        "Marco Reitsema" <marco@Cybercomm.nl>
Subject: PC800: New Motorcycle Owner Study 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:42:31 +0100

>>from motorcycle online:
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdaily98/day1211.html

J.D. Power Releases New Motorcycle Owner Study

Women account for nearly one-quarter of first-time, new-motorcycle owners, according to the inaugural J.D. Power and Associates
Motorcycle Competitive Information Study (MCIS)(SM). Nearly 40 percent of these women are college educated, more than half are
married and nearly 80 percent ride cruiser motorcycles.
The study, based on responses from more than 9,000 owners of new 1998 model year street and dual-sport motorcycles, includes all
major makes and models sold in the United States. Overall results reveal that in terms of product quality, owners report fewer than
average problems among Asian makes. However, non-Asian makes excelled in overall ownership satisfaction.

In product quality, the Asian motorcycle manufacturers achieved an impressive score of 58 problems per 100 vehicles, compared to the
industry average of 73. Non-Asian makes scored as many as 88 problems per 100, clearly pointing to a need for quality improvement.

According to the study, there is an interesting correlation between the number of problems expected versus those actually
experienced in the motorcycle and automotive industries.

"New-motorcycle owners tend to feel that they have more problems than they anticipated compared to new-car owners despite the fact
that motorcycles, in general, are less complex vehicles than cars," said Gil Niv, manager of motorcycle studies at J.D. Power and
Associates. "The notion that motorcyclists are more inclined to tolerate quality problems because of their perceived enthusiasm may
not hold true anymore."

In overall ownership satisfaction, touring-bike owners reported the highest satisfaction ratings across the entire new-motorcycle
ownership experience. This segment is followed by sport, standard, cruiser and dual- sport motorcycles, respectively.

The study also ranks the product appeal of new motorcycles based on performance ratings, which include: cockpit and controls, looks
and styling, ride and handling, seating and engine and transmission. Despite the fact that the cruiser segment has been a main
driver for the strong growth in the motorcycle industry, it ranks toward the bottom of the list in product appeal. The
highest-ranked segment in product appeal is sport motorcycles, followed by touring, standard, cruiser and dual sport, respectively.

"While it is not surprising to find that touring and sport motorcycle owners offer the highest product-appeal ratings, low scores
reported by cruiser bike owners point to an opportunity for improvement," said Niv. "Riders of sport and touring bikes are used to
the high performance and exceptional handling standards and are expecting to find the latest technologies on their bikes. It appears
that with cruiser motorcycles, manufacturers have been concentrating primarily on looks and style and may be neglecting to update
the dynamic characteristics and functionality of these motorcycles."

The study also reports on shopping behavior and satisfaction with the sales experience. While the industry average for Internet
shopping is 17 percent among those searching for new motorcycles, owners of standard and sport bikes use the Internet for new
motorcycle shopping twice as much. In the area of sales and service satisfaction, a clear distinction emerges between Asian and
non-Asian motorcycle owners. Asian bike owners reported significantly lower ratings in their sales and service experiences.

"We found that the low ratings given by Asian bike owners is a direct result of their dissatisfaction with the overall performance
of the dealership personnel," said Niv.

Interesting, huh? However, before you can use these figures for advertising and promotional purposes, the nice folks at J.D. Power
want everyone to know that you may not use this information without prior written consent. If you want more information check out
their web site at www.jdpower.com or e-mail john.pepitone@jdpower.com.


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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:41:30 -0800
From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde <m.vervelde@mci2000.com>
To: partners@climbnet.com, PC800 email <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
X-MSMail-priority: Normal



Please remove my name from the partners section.  I was unable to do it. =
I am using a friends computer.  Name to remove, Tim Hayner  Thanks

computer.&nbsp; Name=20
to remove, Tim Hayner&nbsp; Thanks</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'David Klein'" <DavidAklein@webtv.net>
Cc: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: interesting distribution
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 03:09:55 -0500

Hi Dave, Thanks for the kudos. The CB antenna is mounted on a little =
90deg metal bracket which bolts to the passenger backrest using the =
existing mounting bolt.

Also, I'm quite familiar with Townsend. That's the traditional site for =
TN-STAR (Honda Sport Touring Association). There's some super riding in =
general area including the now "famous" Deal's Gap road.

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From:	David Klein [SMTP:DavidAklein@webtv.net]
Sent:	Thursday, December 10, 1998 10:16 PM
To:	Jim Randall
Cc:	'PC800 List'
Subject:	Re: PC800: interesting distribution

Season's Greetings Jim,
COOL! ---the way you broke down the # per year.  I checked out your web
page--- COOL!!  I printed off the instructions for the Hiway Pegs.
Thankyou for that.;-}  It's something i wanted to do to my 97PC but
did'nt have a clue as to how to go about it.    Do you still intend to
show us how you mounted your CB & antenna? I would like to know more
about that.    It was neat to see you live in Tenn. My better half
{wife} & i were married in Townsend {near Pigeon Forge}, Oct. 96.    The
picture of your daughter next to the Honda CB360 brought back memories.
In 73-74 i had both the CB & CL 350/360 Honda's. I had engine trouble
with both! On the CB I had high rise handle bars, hiway pegs, & a real
tall sissy bar on the back. On the weekends I would load up my
Backpack/camping equipment, & Bow & Arrows & ride 2.5 hrs. up I-94 to
Deer hunt in  B. R. F. s,  Wisc.  In a strong headwind with the throttle
wide open i could only do 60 m.p.h. I guess i burned up the engine. :-}
Those were my High School days.  The Hiway Pegs for the PC will make a
great Winter Project. Thanks again.


Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne, IND.
Merry Christmas to you & yours!
Remember God's Great Gift-- "Jesus" =20
=20

                                    =20

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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 07:15:29 -0800



The Cycle World Motorcycle show started last night at the San Mateo =
Exhibit center.   Did anyone attend?    I am wondering if the BMW =
display included the new K1200LT?

I am going this morning, so if no one has the information by the time I =
get back, I will post and let everyone know.    As you probably know the =
show started last weekend in Los Angeles and will continue through out =
the US, wrapping up in Daytona in March during Bike week.

If anyone did go, what are the comments?

Thanks

Jim Alexander
'89 PC800
HSTA #2307SU  =20

new=20
K1200LT?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am going this morning, so if no =
one has the=20
information by the time I get back, I will post and let everyone=20
know.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As you probably know the show started last =
weekend in=20
Los Angeles and will continue through out the US, wrapping up in Daytona =
in=20
March during Bike week.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>If anyone did go, what are the=20
comments?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jim Alexander</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>'89 PC800</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HSTA #2307SU&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:17:48 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: New Motorcycle Owner Study

Hi Emile,

Emile Nossin wrote:

> J.D. Power Releases New Motorcycle Owner Study
> ...

Interesting stuff, eh? Thanks for sending it.

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"Black Beauty"
121,000 miles

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From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:46:56 -0800 (PST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: baker airwwings


just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
ealer

they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers  

the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs

joel cupertino cali

98pc
97valkyrie
93 bmw k-1
98 helix (what a blast (60 mpg)

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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:01:14 -0800



OK Now I answer my own question ... The K1200LT is there!    Man it does =
look great.    It is very seductive and impressive.   I sure wish Honda =
would take some hints, but I suspect the effect will be to update the =
Goldwing.    The K1200LT wet is about 200lbs lighter than the Goldwing.  =
  The wet weight of the K1200LT is 834 lbs.   The GVW is 1322lbs!   Just =
under 500lbs capacity.   The fuel capacity is 6.18 Gallons (including a =
1 gallon reserve).   It has a 14 volt, 60amp alternator (not a stator!). =
=20

There are three levels:

 K1200 LT-S  $16,900 MSRP which includes Cruise Control (Handle bar =
controls),  Electronically adjustable windshield, four speaker 120 watt =
AM/FM/Weather band stereo with Cassette player, Single key locks & =
ignition, ABS II, & power accessory sockets for both rider & passenger.

K1200 LT-I  $17,900 MSRP all of the above, plus heated grips, six CD =
changer, and on-board computer.

K1200 LT-C $18,900 MSRP all of the above, plus heated extra plush seats =
with separate controls for rider & passenger and the accent chrome =
package.

Accessories include the top case cooler, a security alarm system which =
includes a CB, Intercom, and connection for Cellular phone.  They also =
have an optional Tank Bag and cup holders ;-).

I am impressed.   They will be available in March.    I just might want =
one.    I wouldn't want to give up the PC because I think it is much =
more practical for local trips and commuting, but for long trips ... I =
think I would have to admit that the K1200 LT would be the ultimate in =
luxury and puts real pressure on Honda to update the Goldwing.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
    To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
    Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 7:17 AM
    Subject: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
   =20
   =20
    The Cycle World Motorcycle show started last night at the San Mateo =
Exhibit center.   Did anyone attend?    I am wondering if the BMW =
display included the new K1200LT?
    =20
    I am going this morning, so if no one has the information by the =
time I get back, I will post and let everyone know.    As you probably =
know the show started last weekend in Los Angeles and will continue =
through out the US, wrapping up in Daytona in March during Bike week.
    =20
    If anyone did go, what are the comments?
    =20
    Thanks
    =20
    Jim Alexander
    '89 PC800
    HSTA #2307SU  =20

the new=20
    K1200LT?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am going this morning, so if =
no one has=20
    the information by the time I get back, I will post and let everyone =

    know.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As you probably know the show started last =
weekend=20
    in Los Angeles and will continue through out the US, wrapping up in =
Daytona=20
    in March during Bike week.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>If anyone did go, what are the=20
    comments?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jim Alexander</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>'89 PC800</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HSTA #2307SU&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>



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From: "Steven R. Zweigart" <srz@ntr.net>
To: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
Cc: "Pacific Coast Mailing List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:34:00 -0500



Is there any web page dedicated to this bike yet of which you're aware?  =
Sounds like a peach.

Steve Zweigart
Maysville, Kentucky
'97 PC800
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
    To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
    Date: Saturday, 12 December, 1998 22:04
    Subject: Re: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
   =20
   =20
    OK Now I answer my own question ... The K1200LT is there!    Man it =
does look great.    It is very seductive and impressive.   I sure wish =
Honda would take some hints, but I suspect the effect will be to update =
the Goldwing.    The K1200LT wet is about 200lbs lighter than the =
Goldwing.    The wet weight of the K1200LT is 834 lbs.   The GVW is =
1322lbs!   Just under 500lbs capacity.   The fuel capacity is 6.18 =
Gallons (including a 1 gallon reserve).   It has a 14 volt, 60amp =
alternator (not a stator!). =20
    =20
    There are three levels:
    =20
     K1200 LT-S  $16,900 MSRP which includes Cruise Control (Handle bar =
controls),  Electronically adjustable windshield, four speaker 120 watt =
AM/FM/Weather band stereo with Cassette player, Single key locks & =
ignition, ABS II, & power accessory sockets for both rider & passenger.
    =20
    K1200 LT-I  $17,900 MSRP all of the above, plus heated grips, six CD =
changer, and on-board computer.
    =20
    K1200 LT-C $18,900 MSRP all of the above, plus heated extra plush =
seats with separate controls for rider & passenger and the accent chrome =
package.
    =20
    Accessories include the top case cooler, a security alarm system =
which includes a CB, Intercom, and connection for Cellular phone.  They =
also have an optional Tank Bag and cup holders ;-).
    =20
    I am impressed.   They will be available in March.    I just might =
want one.    I wouldn't want to give up the PC because I think it is =
much more practical for local trips and commuting, but for long trips =
... I think I would have to admit that the K1200 LT would be the =
ultimate in luxury and puts real pressure on Honda to update the =
Goldwing.
    =20
   =20
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
        To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
        Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 7:17 AM
        Subject: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
       =20
       =20
        The Cycle World Motorcycle show started last night at the San =
Mateo Exhibit center.   Did anyone attend?    I am wondering if the BMW =
display included the new K1200LT?
        =20
        I am going this morning, so if no one has the information by the =
time I get back, I will post and let everyone know.    As you probably =
know the show started last weekend in Los Angeles and will continue =
through out the US, wrapping up in Daytona in March during Bike week.
        =20
        If anyone did go, what are the comments?
        =20
        Thanks
        =20
        Jim Alexander
        '89 PC800
        HSTA #2307SU  =20

included the=20
        new K1200LT?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am going this morning, so =
if no one=20
        has the information by the time I get back, I will post and let =
everyone=20
        know.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As you probably know the show started =
last=20
        weekend in Los Angeles and will continue through out the US, =
wrapping up=20
        in Daytona in March during Bike week.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>If anyone did go, what are =
the=20
        comments?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jim Alexander</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>'89 PC800</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HSTA #2307SU&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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From: DavidAklein@webtv.net (David Klein)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:28:52 -0500 (EST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: K1200LT web sites

If any one else is interested, go to:
www.bmwusacycles.com/machines/k1200lt/k1200lt.html
Also: www.motomag.com/nouveau/munich/bmlt101.htm


Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne, IND.
Merry Christmas to you & yours!
Remember God's Great Gift-- "Jesus"  
 

                                     

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:27:20 -0500
From: dana sawyer <Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com>
Subject: PC800: May you have:
To: HondaPacificCoastOwners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>,
        HSTA Postings to List <hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu>

I ran across this recently, and wanted to share it with each of you durin=
g
this holiday season.

May you have:

Enough happiness to keep you sweet...

Enough trials to keep you strong...

Enough sorrows to keep you human...

Enough hope to keep you happy...

Enough failure to keep you humble...

Enough success to keep you eager...

Enough friends to give you comfort...

Enough wealth to meet your needs...

Enough enthusiasm to look forward...

Enough faith to banish depression...

Enough determination to make each day better than yesterday.

And from us...Lynn, Laura and Dana Sawyer...Enough Holiday Cheer to fill
your Heart and Soul!

P.S. And...enough twisty roads to keep you an enthusiastic motorcyclist f=
or
the coming twelve months!
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From: "The Broeking's" <broeking@erols.com>
To: "Madeleine Kasof" <MJKasof@webtv.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: baker airwwings
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 09:03:57 -0500

Interesting, you are the first person to say that they help in cold weather.
because of what I had read earlier, I had not considered adding them.
having them direct warm engine air to my legs during my winter commute would
be helpful.  Bob
------------------------------
just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
ealer

they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers

the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs

joel cupertino cali



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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
To: "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: FW: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 09:05:04 -0500

Jim Alexander wrote (regarding the BMW K1200LT):
>It has a 14 volt, 60amp alternator (not a stator!). =20

Just a minor point here, our PCs have an alternator too - the stator is =
just the stationary wiring coil. Unless there's some magic German =
techology in the Beemer it has a stator in its alternator also.=20

However, as Jim notes, the power output of the Beemer is 840 watts - a =
nice improvement over the puny 340 watts produced by the PC's =
alternator. I don't know what the capacity of Wing's alternator would be =
but I'm sure it's higher than the PC too. The big Beemer is a real nice =
piece - now, if they'd just knock about 5 grand off the price...

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: "Jim Randall" <jrandall@tricon.net>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: International Motorcycle Show
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:29:15 -0800

Jim,

When I realize that the Stator is actually an Alternator, but the PC's is
embedded in the engine and much more costly to replace, is under powered,
and for Honda they have a very significant of failure.   One thing the BMW
did was move away from the traditional Stator (meaning in my mind an
internal alternator ... whether or not a technically correct statement), to
a normal automotive alternator which is actually powered by the motor
externally and is outside the engine where is has less chance of being over
heated.    I don't know that a heat problem causes failure, but I have to
believe that a larger current draw on a bike must have some physical effects
on the device and I believe part of that could be a heat build up.

About the price, I would like to see it cheaper, but I don't think it is out
of line when you compare it against the GoldWing or the Valkyrie Interstate,
or a Harley (whatever model is comparable).    The ST1100 ABS-II is $14,999
and when you compare that against the base price for the K1200 LT, I think
the K1200 is reasonably priced.   It is $2,000 more but it comes with the
AM/FM/Cassette, Fuel Injection, the Top Trunk, pre-installed power outlets
for electric clothing, plus the Telelever and Paralever suspension.   It has
much more rated carrying capacity and it has the electric adjustable
windscreen.    I think those difference do make up the $2,000 difference in
price.

But I would like to all motorcycles be prices about 25% less because I think
they are all over priced (with the exception of the current '98 PC800
price)!     ;-)

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From: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>
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Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 6:14 AM
Subject: FW: PC800: International Motorcycle Show


Jim Alexander wrote (regarding the BMW K1200LT):
>It has a 14 volt, 60amp alternator (not a stator!).

Just a minor point here, our PCs have an alternator too - the stator is just
the stationary wiring coil. Unless there's some magic German techology in
the Beemer it has a stator in its alternator also.

However, as Jim notes, the power output of the Beemer is 840 watts - a nice
improvement over the puny 340 watts produced by the PC's alternator. I don't
know what the capacity of Wing's alternator would be but I'm sure it's
higher than the PC too. The big Beemer is a real nice piece - now, if they'd
just knock about 5 grand off the price...

Jim Randall
jrandall@tricon.net
http://home.naxs.com/jrandall/

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:46:27 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings

Now hold on there.

I had also written in a previous post that I like mine too because they
help bring in heat on my knees.  They are less helpful in bringin in
cool air, unless you open them all the way up and I don't like the look
of them like that (looks like the wind is putting too much stress on
them).  Plus if you wear really heavy clothing, or leather pants or
chaps, you will not notice it as much.

My conclusion is that they are best for cooler weather climates.  I
would get them again.  But that is just me.  :-)




The Broeking's wrote:
> 
> Interesting, you are the first person to say that they help in cold weather.
> because of what I had read earlier, I had not considered adding them.
> having them direct warm engine air to my legs during my winter commute would
> be helpful.  Bob
> ------------------------------
> just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
> ealer
> 
> they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
> and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers
> 
> the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
> highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs
> 
> joel cupertino cali
> 
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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: "Thomas Ongstad" <gwta@voyager.net>, "PC list" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:05:38 -0800

I wonder about the possibility of using them in hotter times to deflect the
heat coming out of the vents.  When riding last summer in 100 degree
weather, I had jeans on and every time I stopped for a light or stop sign,
the bike would heat up and my legs would almost get burned as I started
moving again.   If they could deflect that blast of hot air at those times,
they would be great.

Any comments anyone who uses them?    (I apologize if I missed earlier
comments about this)
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From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings


>Now hold on there.
>
>I had also written in a previous post that I like mine too because they
>help bring in heat on my knees.  They are less helpful in bringin in
>cool air, unless you open them all the way up and I don't like the look
>of them like that (looks like the wind is putting too much stress on
>them).  Plus if you wear really heavy clothing, or leather pants or
>chaps, you will not notice it as much.
>
>My conclusion is that they are best for cooler weather climates.  I
>would get them again.  But that is just me.  :-)
>
>
>
>
>The Broeking's wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, you are the first person to say that they help in cold
weather.
>> because of what I had read earlier, I had not considered adding them.
>> having them direct warm engine air to my legs during my winter commute
would
>> be helpful.  Bob
>> ------------------------------
>> just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
>> ealer
>>
>> they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
>> and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers
>>
>> the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
>> highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs
>>
>> joel cupertino cali
>>
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:22:05 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
CC: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings

It does help.  When turned all the way in it allows you to spread your
legs (careful there) away from the bike, allowing better air flow
without picking up the heat from the vents.

Now turned out it does bring in some good amount of cooler air (mixed
with some warm air), but I have found that I cannot tighten the wings
down enough to keep the wings from flopping flat against the wind. 
Maybe others have had more luck.  When flat against the wind, you are
picking up some mighty drag and I am concerned about the stress put on
those four plastic bolts holding wing to its supports.

My opinion only.

Tommyteal

Jim Alexander wrote:
> 
> I wonder about the possibility of using them in hotter times to deflect the
> heat coming out of the vents.  When riding last summer in 100 degree
> weather, I had jeans on and every time I stopped for a light or stop sign,
> the bike would heat up and my legs would almost get burned as I started
> moving again.   If they could deflect that blast of hot air at those times,
> they would be great.
> 
> Any comments anyone who uses them?    (I apologize if I missed earlier
> comments about this)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
> To: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings
> 
> >Now hold on there.
> >
> >I had also written in a previous post that I like mine too because they
> >help bring in heat on my knees.  They are less helpful in bringin in
> >cool air, unless you open them all the way up and I don't like the look
> >of them like that (looks like the wind is putting too much stress on
> >them).  Plus if you wear really heavy clothing, or leather pants or
> >chaps, you will not notice it as much.
> >
> >My conclusion is that they are best for cooler weather climates.  I
> >would get them again.  But that is just me.  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The Broeking's wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting, you are the first person to say that they help in cold
> weather.
> >> because of what I had read earlier, I had not considered adding them.
> >> having them direct warm engine air to my legs during my winter commute
> would
> >> be helpful.  Bob
> >> ------------------------------
> >> just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
> >> ealer
> >>
> >> they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
> >> and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers
> >>
> >> the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
> >> highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs
> >>
> >> joel cupertino cali
> >>
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:22:42 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
CC: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings

It does help.  When turned all the way in it allows you to spread your
legs (careful there) away from the bike, allowing better air flow
without picking up the heat from the vents.

Now turned out it does bring in some good amount of cooler air (mixed
with some warm air), but I have found that I cannot tighten the wings
down enough to keep the wings from flopping flat against the wind after
a short while.  Maybe others have had more luck.  When flat against the
wind, you are picking up some mighty drag and I am concerned about the
stress put on those four plastic bolts holding wing to its supports.

My opinion only.

Tommyteal

Jim Alexander wrote:
> 
> I wonder about the possibility of using them in hotter times to deflect the
> heat coming out of the vents.  When riding last summer in 100 degree
> weather, I had jeans on and every time I stopped for a light or stop sign,
> the bike would heat up and my legs would almost get burned as I started
> moving again.   If they could deflect that blast of hot air at those times,
> they would be great.
> 
> Any comments anyone who uses them?    (I apologize if I missed earlier
> comments about this)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
> To: PC list <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwwings
> 
> >Now hold on there.
> >
> >I had also written in a previous post that I like mine too because they
> >help bring in heat on my knees.  They are less helpful in bringin in
> >cool air, unless you open them all the way up and I don't like the look
> >of them like that (looks like the wind is putting too much stress on
> >them).  Plus if you wear really heavy clothing, or leather pants or
> >chaps, you will not notice it as much.
> >
> >My conclusion is that they are best for cooler weather climates.  I
> >would get them again.  But that is just me.  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The Broeking's wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting, you are the first person to say that they help in cold
> weather.
> >> because of what I had read earlier, I had not considered adding them.
> >> having them direct warm engine air to my legs during my winter commute
> would
> >> be helpful.  Bob
> >> ------------------------------
> >> just had the red wings installed on the pc and just rode home from the
> >> ealer
> >>
> >> they aqork great  no cold air hitting my legs..  i had them fully closed
> >> and had wonderful warm air  wafting on my lowers
> >>
> >> the red looks terrific with the hondaq red
> >> highly recommend them to all whowant warmer knees and legs
> >>
> >> joel cupertino cali
> >>
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From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:38:30 -0800 (PST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: lower spoiler for pc


the other day philips wong mentioned the possibility of making a lower
saddlebag spoiler for the pc

i cant imagine where they go or how they look

anyone have info on this??


joel cupertino calif

98pc
97valkyrie
93 bmw k-1
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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: "Madeleine Kasof" <MJKasof@webtv.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: lower spoiler for pc
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:54:43 -0800

Yeah, they mount at the bottom of the trunk.   On each side is tapered up to
about 3/4 inch, but in the back it extends down about another 2 1/2 inches.
It does look pretty good.   It was an original option available for the 1989
and 1990 models, but I don't know what happened after that.    It wasn't a
cheap option (just like the wing on top wasn't cheap).    I have seen them
on only a few 1989s.   I don't remember ever seeing them on a 1990.

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From: Madeleine Kasof <MJKasof@webtv.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 8:39 AM
Subject: PC800: lower spoiler for pc



the other day philips wong mentioned the possibility of making a lower
saddlebag spoiler for the pc

i cant imagine where they go or how they look

anyone have info on this??


joel cupertino calif

98pc
97valkyrie
93 bmw k-1
98 helix

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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: "David Klein" <DavidAklein@webtv.net>, <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: K1200LT web sites
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:03:27 -0500

hey... i gotta admit..... I like the looks!!!


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From: David Klein <DavidAklein@webtv.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 12:30 AM
Subject: PC800: K1200LT web sites


If any one else is interested, go to:
www.bmwusacycles.com/machines/k1200lt/k1200lt.html
Also: www.motomag.com/nouveau/munich/bmlt101.htm


Dave Klein
DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne, IND.
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From: "PCSG Ltd." <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: K1200LT web sites
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:40:15 -0000

Only today I was talking to an RT owner at the RoSPA Club.
He says they need a new gearbox at around 40,000 miles.

I wonder if they have sorted out the fault with the K1200 ?

Job
Sussex
----------
> From: Michael D. Linkous <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
> To: David Klein <DavidAklein@webtv.net>; pc800@hpc.uh.edu
> Subject: Re: PC800: K1200LT web sites
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 7:03 PM
> 
> hey... i gotta admit..... I like the looks!!!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Klein <DavidAklein@webtv.net>
> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 12:30 AM
> Subject: PC800: K1200LT web sites
> 
> 
> If any one else is interested, go to:
> www.bmwusacycles.com/machines/k1200lt/k1200lt.html
> Also: www.motomag.com/nouveau/munich/bmlt101.htm
> 
> 
> Dave Klein
> DavidAklein@WebTV.Net                            Fort Wayne, IND.
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> 
> 
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: K1200LT web sites
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:42:13 +0100

As i have been informed the R, oilhead type RT, had problems with the
gearbox. I have had several K- 100/1100's and there have never been anything
serious wrong with their g.boxes. I have friends with K's with more than
400.000 km on their bikes.
I sold my last K only 3 weeks ago. I really like the bike, but it's not a
twin !!!! More like a powerful sawingmachine !!!!

I was lent a GW , for 5 months back in 75 and did not like this one either.
Maybe I am weird, but I think that a bike should be felt and heard (not the
PC though), but it too should be a little more noicy.

regards
Arvid
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From: PCSG Ltd. <pcsg@mistral.co.uk>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: 13. desember 1998 21:41
Subject: PC800: K1200LT web sites


>Only today I was talking to an RT owner at the RoSPA Club.
>He says they need a new gearbox at around 40,000 miles.
>
>I wonder if they have sorted out the fault with the K1200 ?
>
>Job
>Sussex
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From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:14:57 -0800 (PST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing


someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
did i miss something?

just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs

joel cupertino calif

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:37:21 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Madeleine Kasof <MJKasof@webtv.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing

You didn't miss anything.  You are right.

TommyTeal

Madeleine Kasof wrote:
> 
> someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
> did i miss something?
> 
> just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs
> 
> joel cupertino calif
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From: rodneycarey@juno.com
 by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DWDW4UMP; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:22:37 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Cc: imadv8@frontiernet.net
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:57:03 -0600
Subject: PC800: Monica is naked... (ugg, arf arf, boing...)

So I have all of the "Tupper Ware" (outer plastic covering) off of Monica
(my 94 PC800.) Told the dealer that I just won a huge lottery, that way
he would order several expensive parts without putting my house up for
security. So some parts are on order and some are scheduled to go to the
body shop for a refurbish.  This leaves Monica naked.

I live in Minnesota (north central USA) and the weather has been most
unusual. Not knowing how the weather would be this year I disassembled
Monica at the end of October and regret doing it that early. I hear so
much about the lovely rides my fellow PC riders are having.

Today I started shaking and broke down. I put enough electrical stuff
back on Monica along with street legal lighting and went for a cruse.

Sure did miss the wind shield and the luxury of the fairing. I did
however bring home ice cream for the after ride celebration.

Oh for the lazy - crazy days of summer.


CrackHead Rod,
1994 Pacific Coast
Name;    "Monica"
8500 Miles and lot's more to come...
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From: "Jim Alexander" <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
To: "Thomas Ongstad" <gwta@voyager.net>, "Madeleine Kasof" <MJKasof@webtv.net>
Cc: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:39:49 -0800

No I said the wet weight of the K1200 LT was about 200 lbs lighter than the
Wing.   I was incorrect it is a about only about 70 lbs lighter.

Here is what I said in my earlier message:

{snip}
K1200LT wet is about 200lbs lighter than the Goldwing.    The wet weight of
the K1200LT is 834 lbs.   The GVW is 1322lbs!
{snip}

Perhaps you misunderstood GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) to me Goldwing! ;-)

I will say that the Wing seems quit a bit heavier than the K1200 LT on the
show floor.   Get on and try it when the show comes to your neck of the
woods.

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Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing


>You didn't miss anything.  You are right.
>
>TommyTeal
>
>Madeleine Kasof wrote:
>>
>> someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
>> did i miss something?
>>
>> just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs
>>
>> joel cupertino calif
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:17:56 -0500
From: Richard Stafford <dickie@bealenet.com>
To: Jim Alexander <JamesAlexander@csi.com>
CC: Jim Randall <jrandall@tricon.net>, "'PC800 List'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: International Motorcycle Show

Jim Alexander wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> When I realize that the Stator is actually an Alternator, but the PC's is
> embedded in the engine and much more costly to replace, is under powered,
> and for Honda they have a very significant of failure.   One thing the BMW
> did was move away from the traditional Stator (meaning in my mind an
> internal alternator ... whether or not a technically correct statement), to
> a normal automotive alternator which is actually powered by the motor
> externally and is outside the engine where is has less chance of being over
> heated.     

 Jim and Jim, nice conversation about the Beemer, Pat and I had a BMW
RT100 (1000 cc) and didn't much care for it because of..Vibration, very
high seating position, top heavy, had to tip toe it around, and just a
plain stone hard seat. The only trip we tried with it was Richmond to
the BMW campout south of Ashboro, N.C.. Where around the campfire we
heard a lot of bantering about how on earth could people want a
Goldwing. Now here they are with their own copy, and probably a very
successfull one at that. On the way home from that trip Pat say's this
thing has got to go. Sold it to a real nice gentleman who was the
Virginia Ambassador or something like that for the club. I'd like to see
if this one sets any lower and if it isn't quite as top heavy. 
 My GL1500 has an external alternator just like a car. All the 1500s
have since 1988. Wish they would do it on all bikes. And its nothing
really new, back in the era when Jim Randell was a young pup :>), I'm
sure he can remember bikes like A1 and A7 Kawasaki Samari's and
Avenger's just to name a couple that had the alternator outside the
engine behind the cylinders. If my memory is right I believe my 350 GTR
Bridgestone of that era had the same set up. 
 Anyway, with all the new touring oriented bikes coming out it's an
exciting time in motorcycling. And lets not forget what a great
motorcycle we already own, the PC800. Take Care, Dick.
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: lower spoiler for pc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:27:29 +0100

>Yeah, they mount at the bottom of the trunk.   On each side is tapered up to
>on only a few 1989s.   I don't remember ever seeing them on a 1990.
>
>the other day philips wong mentioned the possibility of making a lower
>saddlebag spoiler for the pc
>i cant imagine where they go or how they look
>anyone have info on this??

On the next picture you can see the lower spoiler
from behind on a '90:
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/piet2.htm
And here from the sight (barely):
http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/piet4.htm
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:23:04 -0500
From: Richard Stafford <dickie@bealenet.com>
To: Madeleine Kasof <MJKasof@webtv.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing

Madeleine Kasof wrote:
> 
> someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
> did i miss something?
> 
> just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs
> 
> joel cupertino calif

  Joe, mine feels like 1300 lbs when I'm pushing it around in the garage
. Maybe that was the weight with Patty and I on board........Hope she
didn't read this! Take Care, Dick.
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Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwings
From: speerboy@juno.com (gary n smith)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:16:11 EST

Dear winter riders,
  The way I direct warm air onto myself for cold weather rides is to use
a homemade "lap blanket".  It isn't exactly stylish but we're talking
major warmth without electricity.  And it's cheap!
  I bought a 3' by 5' commercial floor mat (like in the lobby of a hotel)
at Home Depot - cut it like a U-shaped bathroom rug- and placed it upside
down on the bike.  The carpet side is soft enough to be nice to the
finish of the PC and the rubber (bottom) side is wind and weatherproof. 
I secured it by bending the front part around the bodywork and using mini
bungee cords to hook it on.  The rear is held by a large bungee that
hooks on one of the crash bars and loops over the "tank" to the other
crash bar.  All of this is virtually stress free to the plastic.
The net result is a "caccoon" that covers my legs up to my thighs and has
warm air from the vents forced onto my legs and lap.  It's very nice
although I wish the mat was a little longer, maybe 3 x 5'6".
  I deflect air away from my feet using mud flap rubber cut to shape and
attached to the two allen bolts that secure the body panels in front of
the foot pegs.  These stay on year-round cuz I hate the air-up-the-pants
syndrome.

I'll see ya riding!

Gary Smith
'90 PC

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From: Peter_N1@verifone.com
To: JamesAlexander@csi.com
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: SF Bay Area Motorcycle Show
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:19:06 -0800

Jim,

  Did you check out the Sparrow Electric car at the Corbin booth? The MSRP is
$12K, kind of interesting to see in person. However its ergonomics are not
compatable with us more "portly" types. I am 5'10"  210lbs and found it a
squeeze to get into. The steering wheel gets in the way of entry/exit, and once
in, there was not sufficient leg room. Maybe this is why the picture on the
brochure shows a child in the pilot seat.

  The brochure lists a web site: http://www.ev-sparrow.com


Peter Noeth || SF Bay Area, CA || '96 w/9.5k and loving every minuite!

 
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:46:08 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: May you have:

Hi Dana,

dana sawyer wrote:

> And from us...Lynn, Laura and Dana Sawyer...Enough Holiday Cheer to fill
> your Heart and Soul!
>
> P.S. And...enough twisty roads to keep you an enthusiastic motorcyclist for
> the coming twelve months!

Happy holidays to you, your family and all the other Coasters and their
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:53:34 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing

Hi Joel,

Madeleine Kasof wrote:

> someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
> did i miss something?
>
> just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs

Yup.  The GW is 903 lbs. and the new beemer is only about 100 pounds
lighter (not 200 as was posted earlier).  I think the 1300 pound figure was
gross vehicle weight rating for the vehicle, passengers, luggage, etc. for
the new beemer.

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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: RE: PC800: BMW LT
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:58:09 +0200

I saw the pics of the new LT, my dad is spoiling himself with one in
January! I can't wait to see how it looks in real life. I must mention
that it looks a lot like my silver PC. Unfortunately he has to sell his
old LT then, but that's progress. I suppose...

Lohan



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From: Jim Alexander [mailto:JamesAlexander@csi.com]
Sent: 14 December 1998 02:40
To: Thomas Ongstad; Madeleine Kasof
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing


No I said the wet weight of the K1200 LT was about 200 lbs lighter than
the
Wing.   I was incorrect it is a about only about 70 lbs lighter.

Here is what I said in my earlier message:

{snip}
K1200LT wet is about 200lbs lighter than the Goldwing.    The wet weight
of
the K1200LT is 834 lbs.   The GVW is 1322lbs!
{snip}

Perhaps you misunderstood GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) to me Goldwing! ;-)

I will say that the Wing seems quit a bit heavier than the K1200 LT on
the
show floor.   Get on and try it when the show comes to your neck of the
woods.

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From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: Madeleine Kasof <MJKasof@webtv.net>
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: PC800: wet weight of honda goldwing


>You didn't miss anything.  You are right.
>
>TommyTeal
>
>Madeleine Kasof wrote:
>>
>> someone (was it jim alexander) said wet weight of wing was 1300 lbs..
>> did i miss something?
>>
>> just read rider mag  and it listed wet weight of wing at 903 lbs
>>
>> joel cupertino calif
>>
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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwings
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:48:22 +0100

>Dear winter riders,
>  The way I direct warm air onto myself for cold weather rides is to use
>a homemade "lap blanket".    [...]
>the foot pegs.  These stay on year-round cuz I hate the air-up-the-pants
>syndrome.
>Gary Smith >'90 PC

That's one way. But if you have the air-up-the-pants syndrome, isn't it much
easier to buy a pair of motorcycle pants ? I have the draft only when wearing
jeans (I know, it's stupid which is why I allmost never wear them), but with
my Dainese (waterproof cordura and removable lining) mc pants over
my leather Daytona boots I can close it air tight with press-studs and velcro
which are on the pants. No up-the-croch-ventilation, no cold legs (I don't even
bother putting in the lining). Now cold hands is different, but the full faring in
combination with those pants is adequate enough for my legs.
>I'll see ya riding!
Agreed !!
Season's Greetings,
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[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort

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If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwings
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:48:09 +0100

>Dear winter riders,
>  The way I direct warm air onto myself for cold weather rides is to use
>a homemade "lap blanket".    [...]
>the foot pegs.  These stay on year-round cuz I hate the air-up-the-pants
>syndrome.
>Gary Smith >'90 PC


That's one way. But if you have the air-up-the-pants syndrome, isn't it much
easier to buy a pair of motorcycle pants ? I have the draft only when wearing
jeans (I know, it's stupid which is why I allmost never wear them), but with
my Dainese (waterproof cordura and removable lining) mc pants over
my leather Daytona boots I can close it air tight with press-studs and velcro
which are on the pants. No up-the-croch-ventilation, no cold legs (I don't even
bother putting in the lining). Now cold hands is different, but the full faring in
combination with those pants is adequate enough for my legs.
>I'll see ya riding!
Agreed !!
Season's Greetings,
___
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[__urope, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Santpoort
 
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If the problem can't be solved then there is no need to worry."

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:45:49 -0500
From: Thomas Ongstad <gwta@voyager.net>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwings

Now this I gotta see.  Pictures please!

TommyTeal


gary n smith wrote:
> 
> Dear winter riders,
>   The way I direct warm air onto myself for cold weather rides is to use
> a homemade "lap blanket".  It isn't exactly stylish but we're talking
> major warmth without electricity.  And it's cheap!
>   I bought a 3' by 5' commercial floor mat (like in the lobby of a hotel)
> at Home Depot - cut it like a U-shaped bathroom rug- and placed it upside
> down on the bike.  The carpet side is soft enough to be nice to the
> finish of the PC and the rubber (bottom) side is wind and weatherproof.
> I secured it by bending the front part around the bodywork and using mini
> bungee cords to hook it on.  The rear is held by a large bungee that
> hooks on one of the crash bars and loops over the "tank" to the other
> crash bar.  All of this is virtually stress free to the plastic.
> The net result is a "caccoon" that covers my legs up to my thighs and has
> warm air from the vents forced onto my legs and lap.  It's very nice
> although I wish the mat was a little longer, maybe 3 x 5'6".
>   I deflect air away from my feet using mud flap rubber cut to shape and
> attached to the two allen bolts that secure the body panels in front of
> the foot pegs.  These stay on year-round cuz I hate the air-up-the-pants
> syndrome.
> 
> I'll see ya riding!
> 
> Gary Smith
> '90 PC
>
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From: MJKasof@webtv.net (Madeleine Kasof)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:14:13 -0800 (PST)
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: attention brian  millman  in england


hi brian  i just phone the baker airwing company and geve them your
address to mail you a complete brochure

as i was missing a couple of pages from mine

mrs baker assure me she would mail you brochure today to your address of

37 e gremont drive
lower earley
reading berkshire
rg6-3bs england

if above address is rong  e mail me asap[


regards

joel cupertino calif

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:32:03 -0600
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: Verlis Dillman <ko9f@comteck.com>

Hello
  I traded for a 95 pc800 a month ago and really enjoy it. Just wonder, are
there any pc800 riders that are in amateur radio. I'm interested in how to
install a 2 meter fm rig on the pc. I'm thinking that a rig with a remote
control head would be the only way. Are there any Ham Radio operators in
the group?
  95 PC800 - 9k miles
  AR call - KO9F
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:50:48 -0600
From: Steve Wilson <deere@linknet.net>
CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: PC800: Re:Ham on a PC

<<Hello
  I traded for a 95 pc800 a month ago and really enjoy it. Just
wonder, are
there any pc800 riders that are in amateur radio. I'm interested in
how to
install a 2 meter fm rig on the pc. I'm thinking that a rig with a
remote
control head would be the only way. Are there any Ham Radio operators
in
the group?
  95 PC800 - 9k miles
  AR call - KO9F
  Verlis Dillman
  Marion Indiana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oh no! Not the dreaded ham thread again! :-}
Next thing will be the pilot/rider thread. :-}

Hello Verlis. Welcome to the list. You should recieve many replies to
the ham question. Harrison Spain  on the SCPCRC.org page has a ham
(you would think that without refigeration it woud stink so bad that
he couldn't ride) on his bike and pictures are on their site. Enjoy
the bike. I love mine. PS. We have the best color of all the PCs.:-)
(another thread that need not raise its ugly head) :-}
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From: "Lippert, Jim" <jim.lippert@intel.com>
To: PC800 daemon <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, beth lippert <lbeth@bgosh.com>,
        Bob Gronski <bob@zenresearch.com>, dan deleon <dan.deleon@merisel.com>,
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Subject: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:17:02 -0800

this is cool (or hot, depending on your frame of reference).  sure beats the
small nuclear device that i was thinking about for protecting my bike.


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/


jim lippert, intel corporate demos
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From: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:36:16 +0200

Aren't us South Africans clever sometimes? I can't wait to get one for
my PC! I don't run a risk being car-jacked, but it will sure make for a
big audience at the next rally!


Regards
Lohan "Flamin' Joe" Johnson



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From: Lippert, Jim [mailto:jim.lippert@intel.com]
Sent: 14 December 1998 07:17
To: PC800 daemon; beth lippert; Bob Gronski; dan deleon; denise lippert
Subject: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?


this is cool (or hot, depending on your frame of reference).  sure beats
the
small nuclear device that i was thinking about for protecting my bike.


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/


jim lippert, intel corporate demos
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408/765-5772
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From: "Tim J. Clevenger" <TClevenger@paypros.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:54:58 -0800
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

Hmm...  Better wear those extra-thick boots and leathers.  :-)

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
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From: 	Lohan Johnson[SMTP:LohanJ@ixchange.com]
Sent: 	Monday, December 14, 1998 11:36 AM
To: 	'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'
Subject: 	RE: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?

Aren't us South Africans clever sometimes? I can't wait to get one for
my PC! I don't run a risk being car-jacked, but it will sure make for a
big audience at the next rally!


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Date: 	Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:10:59 -0500
From: Joe Beresford <cableguy@one.net>
To: Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
CC: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?

Be sure to see if I can import that to th US....probably not but wouldnt
that make someone think twice!!!!

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From: "Sattin, Harvey" <h.sattin@neccsd.com>
To: "'Josh @ School'" <jasp@lehigh.edu>
Cc: "'nedod@linus.mitre.org'" <nedod@linus.mitre.org>,
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Subject: PC800: Australian "bikies'' in big pile-up, one dead.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:45:45 -0500

A picture of this was in the Boston Globe yesterday:
*******************************************
December 12, 1998 
Web posted at: 3:22 AM EST (0822 GMT) 
SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) -- The re-enactment of an Australian cult
"bikie" movie on Saturday ended in a 50 motorcycle pile-up which left one
rider dead and 14 injured. 
An estimated 15,000 to 20,000 motorcyclists began a ride north from Sydney
to Newcastle along the F3 freeway on Saturday morning to celebrate the 25th
anniversary of the movie "Stone," which featured a ride by thousands of
bikies. 
But around noon several bikes collided with a broken down car, causing the
pile-up, a police spokeswoman said. 
Ambulance officials said one rider was dead and eight had serious spinal,
head and limb injuries. A fleet of ambulances and two helicopters ferried
the 14 injured bikers to several hospitals. 
Copyright 1998 Reuters . All rights reserved. 
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From: "Doug Allis" <dhallis@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, LohanJ@ixchange.com
Subject: RE: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:02:11 PST

If you are trying to cut the fog on a face shield I suggest a fogshield. 
I think the brand name is Fogcity.  Anyway this is a faceshield shaped 
plastic sheet that glues inside your faceshield. You will never have to 
deal with a fogged up faceshield again.  If your glasses are the problem 
then any anti-fog spray or wipe should work well on them for an hour or 
two.  I ride through the winter and summer in heavy rain and never have 
a problem.

Doug at DHAllis@hotmail.com

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From: "Doug Allis" <dhallis@hotmail.com>
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, steve_z@may-uky.campuscw.net
Subject: Re: Fw: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:15:46 PST

Hey even if your current helmet is not under warrantee there may be a 
hidden warrantee that even your dealer is not aware of.  I bought an HJC 
full face something-9 in 1993 when I purchased my first streetbike.  
About three years later the glue started to fail and the plastic neck 
liner in the back fell down inside my jacket in back (real strange 
feeling). I took the thing to an dealer and expected to pay $50 when it 
came back a few weeks later.  Two days went by and the dealer 
accessories department called me saying that my "new special order" 
helmet was in. My old helmet was replaced with a brand new one.





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From: rodneycarey@juno.com
 by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DWF9946N; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:16:12 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:12:13 -0600
Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?

Throw a Hippo on the barbie eh what...


CrackHead Rod,
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Name;    "Monica"
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:36:16 +0200 Lohan Johnson <LohanJ@ixchange.com>
writes:
>Aren't us South Africans clever sometimes? I can't wait to get one 
>for
>my PC! I don't run a risk being car-jacked, but it will sure make for 
>a
>big audience at the next rally!
>
>
>Regards
>Lohan "Flamin' Joe" Johnson
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lippert, Jim [mailto:jim.lippert@intel.com]
>Sent: 14 December 1998 07:17
>To: PC800 daemon; beth lippert; Bob Gronski; dan deleon; denise 
>lippert
>Subject: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?
>
>
>this is cool (or hot, depending on your frame of reference).  sure 
>beats
>the
>small nuclear device that i was thinking about for protecting my 
>bike.
>
>
>http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/
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>
>jim lippert, intel corporate demos
>'98 Honda PC800
>408/765-5772
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	 for <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:45:27 -0500 (EST)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:45:27 EST
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: SF Bay Area Motorcycle Show

In a message dated 12/13/98 11:18:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
Peter_N1@verifone.com writes:

<<   Did you check out the Sparrow Electric car at the Corbin booth? The MSRP
is
 $12K >>

Haven't seen it in person but there is a nice demo of it on Corbin's CD-ROM
catalog (Free BTW).  Looks neat but some serious social standards are going to
have to be leveled before it will stand a realistic chance.

At 12k you can get a KIA and not worry about recharges
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From: "Timothy Graham" <TTGraham@Bigfoot.com>
To: "PC800 Mailing List" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Ultimate Theft Deterrance?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:16:41 -0500

This is even better than air horns ;-)  You're not coming in MY lane!!

-----Original Message-----
Lippert, Jim <jim.lippert@intel.com> wrote on Monday, December 14, 1998 12:36


>this is cool (or hot, depending on your frame of reference).  sure beats the
>small nuclear device that i was thinking about for protecting my bike.
>
>
>http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/


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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:58:04 +0100

>If you are trying to cut the fog on a face shield I suggest a fogshield. 
>I think the brand name is Fogcity.
> You will never have to deal with a fogged up faceshield again.  
>Doug at DHAllis@hotmail.com


But be sure to buy a FogCity Pro, because the regular ones are lousy.
In heavy rain mine fogs up like it isn't there. The Pro has a better glue
and is supposed to work better.
Pinlock is even worse. Fogs up, lets water in between the two visors
and scratches in between because they expand differently when the
temperature changes. Company service is terrible. It has one the 
invention of the year award in Holland last week, god knows why.
The only good anti-fog device I had was the double lense on my
Uvex GP Boss, a similar visor as on the Lazer Modular TR. Uvex
had the patent on the visor, but not anymore so we might see more
of those great visors around. 
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From: "Tim J. Clevenger" <TClevenger@paypros.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Dry?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:33:35 -0800
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

I just bought a great set of Johnny Rocket raingear.  Problem is, I'm =
still wearing my regular gloves and shoes.  Anybody know of something I =
can do to keep my hands/feet dry?  I'm willing to trade in my gloves for =
something rainproof in wet weather, but I prefer that my footwear be =
removable.  (I wear dress shoes to work and tennis shoes otherwise, so =
I'd rather not have to store them in my trunk if possible.)

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16")

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From: "Michael D. Linkous" <mdlinkous@netlinkcorp.com>
To: "Pacific Coast" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>, <TClevenger@paypros.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Dry?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:06:06 -0500

I always wear goretex boots when riding, but my uncle wears those totes
overshoes (ankle length).

For the hands.... he used to drive a tanker truck.... and gave me a pair of
heavy rubber gloves(easier on/off than those dishpan things.. and more
durable).  They have high cuffs on them so you can put them over your
wrists/rainsuit.  I would guess you could get them at some supply store or
where they sell protective gloves for chemicals.

I have only had my PC since September, but rode from SC to WV (300 miles) in
the rain in October.  I stayed dry as a bone.... I would have been miserable
w/o those gloves.

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Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 7:38 PM
Subject: PC800: Dry?


I just bought a great set of Johnny Rocket raingear.  Problem is, I'm still
wearing my regular gloves and shoes.  Anybody know of something I can do to
keep my hands/feet dry?  I'm willing to trade in my gloves for something
rainproof in wet weather, but I prefer that my footwear be removable.  (I
wear dress shoes to work and tennis shoes otherwise, so I'd rather not have
to store them in my trunk if possible.)

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16")

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From: "A.T. Green" <atg@technologist.com>
To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Raingear and something about night driving
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:04:57 -0800

Listo's,

Meant to post a while back on this, the Joe Rocket post reminded me.

1. I use Motoport Spyder Jacket, Motoport Canyon pants and Hein Gericke
overpants for really cold weather. I can't say enough good things about
them.

After 14 months I've only had one leak thru in the left shoulder of the
jacket and that was right after I washed it (for the first time in 12
months)..Since then..nothing..I replaced the liner (it doesnt have sleeves)
with a Solstice PolarFleece jacket. Amazingly, the Solstice zippers mated
with the Motoport inner zippers and it works. I now need 1-2 less layers
due to the superior warmth. Wish I'd known when I bought the jacket.

The canyon pants  trap heat well (since they are not gore-tex) and even now
in december I don't wear any other layers under them for rides around town.
I was wearing them when I went down and the abrasions are hardly noticable.
I plan on replacing the jacket and pants next spring since they did slide a
ways, and the jacket sleeve is a bit torn.

The Hein Gericke has never leaked, are warm and should last
forever...barring a spill. I kinda wish I would have gotten the bib style
but I think Hein Gericke is well made and have my recommendation after 14
months.


2. Anyone ever noticed that at night the car behind you will start moving
forward before you even let off hte brake? I noticed this a few weeks ago
and it has really gotten my attention. I don't see this behavior during the
day, but at night, I think we become invisible to drivers behind us once
they stop. Then, they fixate on the brake lights of the car in front of us
and move when those lights go off. Maybe everyone knew this but me but it
sure gets my attention when I see lights coming at me from behind and I'm
not moving. Its gotten so that I move at the same time the car ahead of me
does in order to keep the buffer open behind me. OH well...

Anyway, hope everyone has a blessed Holiday season and a very, very, very
safe New Year.



Drew
'94-Skippy The Evil Twin
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Dry?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:26:34 +0100

Try regular plastic grocery bags and some tape !!

Arvid
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From: Tim J. Clevenger <TClevenger@paypros.com>
To: 'pc800@hpc.uh.edu' <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Date: 15. desember 1998 01:39
Subject: PC800: Dry?


I just bought a great set of Johnny Rocket raingear.  Problem is, I'm still
wearing my regular gloves and shoes.  Anybody know of something I can do to
keep my hands/feet dry?  I'm willing to trade in my gloves for something
rainproof in wet weather, but I prefer that my footwear be removable.  (I
wear dress shoes to work and tennis shoes otherwise, so I'd rather not have
to store them in my trunk if possible.)

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16")

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Date: 14 Dec 98 16:41:36 AKST
From: Jo Ruby <joruby@netscape.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Hello?

Haven't been getting any messages...just checking to see if I am still on=
 the
list.



Jo Ruby
Juneau, Alaska
1994 PC800

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arvid_L=F8vik?=" <torilljk@online.no>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Charm in gold /platinium  PC 800?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:57:24 +0100



I have  contacted a very good juveler in Switzerland and asked him if he =
have or could make a charm for the PC800. I have seen his work and it's =
fabolous good.=20

The details are amazing.  Have a look at some of the other models he =
have made at:
http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/charms.html

Anyone want one or 2 ? I will come back on pricing. Let me know what you =
think !
=20
I was having a 100 km ride today, nearly 10 degres C. and it felt like =
spring was in the air.
But, the cage drivers are not used to MC's this time of year. I was =
nearly run over 3- three- times on the trip. The did not see me at all =
in the roundabouts !!! I was totally invisible for them.
=20
I found out that I needed some more lights and drove to a part dealer =
selling 100/80W H4 bulbs. He told me that there was a new shop just =
across the road that had a Megalux H4 bulb that was much better. This =
had 65/55 W but should be 30 %  brighter than the normal one.
I thanked him ,went over the road and bought the Megalux bulb. I mounted =
it on site,but found out on the way home that now my front lights could =
be turned 20-30 meters longer in front of the bike. Will adjust it =
tomorrow and if the wheather holds, take a test drive tomorrow night.

Regards
Arvid
Stavanger
Norway



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From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:08:41 EST
To: joruby@netscape.net
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
Subject: Re: PC800: Hello?

Oops!

I replied directly to you; so, you still won't know if you're on the list.
I'll cc this one to the list.

J. T.,
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:19:05 -0600
To: "A.T. Green" <atg@technologist.com>
From: "Richard A. Nadeau" <leakysneaker@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: PC800: Raingear and something about night driving
Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu

>
>2. Anyone ever noticed that at night the car behind you will start moving
>forward before you even let off hte brake? I noticed this a few weeks ago
>and it has really gotten my attention. I don't see this behavior during the
>day, but at night, I think we become invisible to drivers behind us once
>they stop. Then, they fixate on the brake lights of the car in front of us
>and move when those lights go off. Maybe everyone knew this but me but it
>sure gets my attention when I see lights coming at me from behind and I'm
>not moving. Its gotten so that I move at the same time the car ahead of me
>does in order to keep the buffer open behind me. OH well...
>
>Drew
>'94-Skippy The Evil Twin
>--


Drew, 

I noticed the same thing. Like you said, it seems as if drivers behind us
do not see us at night. What I did to help them see me was I installed the
Kris led lights on the GIVI box mount. Now when I see a driver who I think
doesn't see me, I just apply the brakes lightly enough to trip the flashing
LED's which are at his eye level and they back off. It was a simple
solution and only cost about $50.00 and 30 minutes to install.

Happy Holidays to All!!

Richard Nadeau
96 PC  (3/98) 15,000 carefree miles
Nashville,TN


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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 22:33:02 -0500
Subject: Re: PC800: Dry?
To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu
From: pc800@sfcs.k12.ny.us (PC800 Rider)

TClevenger@paypros.com writes:
>I just bought a great set of Johnny Rocket raingear.  Problem is,
>I'm still wearing my regular gloves and shoes.  Anybody know of
>something I can do to keep my hands/feet dry?  I'm willing to
>trade in my gloves for something rainproof in wet weather, but I
>prefer that my footwear be removable.  (I wear dress shoes to work
>and tennis shoes otherwise, so I'd rather not have to store them
>in my trunk if possible.)
>
>Regards,
>
>Tim Clevenger
>'98 PC800 ("Sweet 16")

I've always used the Totes tall boots since they slip over anything
I'm wearing on my feet at the time and they roll up into a nice
small "package" for storage in the trunk. They need to have some
spray lube (silicone or  something) inside them to slip on over
sneakers though,

Tim Davies- Pacific Coast '98
Seneca Falls, New York 13148

AMA #688662
HSTA #8387

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Date: 15 Dec 98 00:12:26 AKST
From: Jo Ruby <joruby@netscape.net>
To: <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: PC800: Hello, and Thanks

I think I finally figured out what's happening, but I'll have to do some
checking. Seems I can send out to the list, but I am not receiving any
messages back, although I received the replies to my recent post.

Might have to unsubscribe and subscribe again and if that don't work, the=
n I
will be ditching this netscape email.

To JT: It's typical weather here in Juneau, all dark and dreary, perfect
though if you were a bear. Eagerly anticipating spring.

Take care,



Jo Ruby
Juneau, Alaska
1994 PC800

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Subject: Re: PC800: baker airwings
From: speerboy@juno.com (gary n smith)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:02:38 EST

Unfortunately my computer sophistication is equal to my stylishness -
both low,
so I can't provide pictures.  But it looks like an upside-down floor mat
draped over a PC. Not particularly good. 
 I rode today at near-freezing with regular pants and shoes though!
Gary Smith
speerboy@juno.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:15:12 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...

Hi Doug,

Doug Allis wrote:

> If you are trying to cut the fog on a face shield I suggest a fogshield.
> I think the brand name is Fogcity.  Anyway this is a faceshield shaped
> plastic sheet that glues inside your faceshield. You will never have to
> deal with a fogged up faceshield again.  If your glasses are the problem
> then any anti-fog spray or wipe should work well on them for an hour or
> two.  I ride through the winter and summer in heavy rain and never have
> a problem.

I started to put one on my Shoei shield and then read the blurb on the Fog
City label that says, "not for use on Shoei shields".  What brand of helmet
are you using it with?

Has anyone on the list used a Fog City shield with a Shoei face shield?

--
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"Black Beauty"
121,000 miles




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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:27:40 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Dry?

Hi Tim,

Tim J. Clevenger wrote:

> I just bought a great set of Johnny Rocket raingear.  Problem is, I'm still wearing my regular gloves and shoes.  Anybody know of something I can do to keep my hands/feet dry?  I'm willing to trade in my gloves for something rainproof in wet weather, but I prefer that my footwear be removable.  (I wear dress shoes to work and tennis shoes otherwise, so I'd rather not have to store them in my trunk if possible.)

Motoport sells a glove called the Polaris-T (as I recall) for about $25.00.  They are absolutely waterproof.  Not as warm as I'd like but they are waterproof.  Tour Master sells a TourMaster III glove which is "waterproof" and breathable.  The breathability feature makes them feel clammy inside after a while but they don't leak; they are about $60.00 and warmer than the Motoport gloves.

For footwear, I recommend N.E.O.S. boots.  That's New England Over Shoes.  They have heavy nylon waterproof uppers, lugged rubber soles, zippered and velcroed closures over the front, a draw string at the top and a velcroed snap-fastened strap over the arch to keep them on tight.  They come in two heights; the taller is up to my knees.  They are waterproof, keep the wind out, light weight and not cheap.  I bought
my tall boots from Orvis (mail order outfit) and they were about $70 I think - $90 by the time I paid tax and shipping.  The shorter ones (about 12" versus 21" or so) are a few dollars less.  I think they are definitely worth it.  My wife spotted these overshoes in the Skymall catalog during a Delta Airline flight.  Orvis sells them and probably others do too.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:32:12 -0500
From: "Leland C. Sheppard" <lcshepp@directcon.net>
To: Pacific Coast Owners <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Hello?

Hi Jo,

Jo Ruby wrote:

> Haven't been getting any messages...just checking to see if I am still on the
> list.

If you see this, you are still on the list...

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From: "Emile Nossin" <Emile@Cybercomm.nl>
To: "PC800" <pc800@hpc.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for Helmet...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:15:07 +0100

>I started to put one on my Shoei shield and then read the blurb on the Fog
>City label that says, "not for use on Shoei shields".  What brand of helmet
>are you using it with?
>Has anyone on the list used a Fog City shield with a Shoei face shield?
>Leland


FogCity makes inside visors specially for Shoei helmets with inserts for
the ventilation holes. Actually, I believe, they first made them only for the
Shoei helmets and later on started to make universal ones as well.
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From: "Sattin, Harvey" <h.sattin@neccsd.com>
To: "'Ronald Grant'" <ultspnch@powerup.com.au>,
        "'X PC 800 List'"
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Cc: "'Josh @ School'" <jasp@lehigh.edu>
Subject: RE: PC800: Australian "bikies'' in big pile-up,