Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 01:27:59 -0400 To: lud96@netdirect.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... At 9:35 PM -0500 5/31/98, The Ludingtons wrote: >has anyone installed a 12 volt power port/lighter on a PC for a cell >phone hook uo and charger?...I am going to be traveling and would like a >port for my phone and/or laptop to plug into....I can not leave the >office back in Carmel.....Also, has anyone mounted a cup holder on a >PC?.... > >Dave & Barb Ludington Hello Dave and BArb. I have a weather proof cigarette lighter socket installed in the trunk, on the right hand side, on the front wall. I have it wired into the switched wiring, so that it is active only when the bike is on. I routinely carry my cell phone and charger with me while travelling. When I do not have my cell phone pluged into the outlet, I have a rechargeable flashlight plugged in, in case I need some light on the side of the road one night. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage To: boba@teleport.com Cc: pclist I've never been able to get more than 35 and usually around 30 in the city. No sympathy here. :( John ---Gail Anundson wrote: > > My gas mileage started to go down. At first it was just in town. Then on > a couple of trip it varied from 42 mpg to over 50 under pretty much the > same driving conditions. As a suggestion from someone I balanced the > carbs. Since I screwed up at first I don't know whether they were out of > balance to begin with. Anyway I think I got them balanced. This weekend > I went on a trip. The worst mileage was 37mpg (80 mph to 85mph) and the > best 46 (65 mph) but for the most part it was around 40mpg (75 mph to 80 > mph). The power is great, the bike is very smooth, and the rolloff > quick. I'm at a loss since nothing seems to be leaking. This '94 has > less than 8K miles on it. > > Any suggestions especially from someone who has experience the same > thing, would be appreciated. > > > Regards, > Bob > > > begin: vcard > fn: Gail Anundson > n: Anundson;Gail > org: A&W > adr: ;;8768 SW Iroquois;Tualatin;Or;97062;USA > email;internet: boba@teleport.com > title: Principal > tel;work: 503 692 7906 > tel;fax: 503 692 7906 > tel;home: 503 692 2841 > x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 > x-mozilla-html: TRUE > end: vcard > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russ Le Blang" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: 12Volt power port.... Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 00:09:35 -0400 Importance: Normal Hi... I've installed one in the left fairing pocket. Radio Shack carries one that has a protective cover to prevent water from getting in. Wired into the fuse box, and presto... works like a champ. I had bought the three-outlet unit for mounting in the trunk, but I didn't want to have to crack the trunk open everytime I wanted to get at it. FTW Russ '97 PC800 White Plains, NY -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of The Ludingtons Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 10:36 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 12Volt power port.... has anyone installed a 12 volt power port/lighter on a PC for a cell phone hook uo and charger?...I am going to be traveling and would like a port for my phone and/or laptop to plug into....I can not leave the office back in Carmel.....Also, has anyone mounted a cup holder on a PC?.... Dave & Barb Ludington 95 PC Farmland. Indiana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 329; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:34:05 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "Richard A. Nadeau" , Subject: RE: PC800: PC Theft Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:34:08 -0400 Importance: Normal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard, My sentiments. I went through some "damages" very similar to what you describe about 6 months ago. Just about put me into the "poor house". Someone decided it would be okay to test their bumber on my new 250mile '97 PC. Smashed into it, throwing it into the grassed area typically in front of you as you pull into a parking space in an apartment complex. To my knowledge, no one in my area has attempted to "lift" my bike yet....thank goodness. I feel for ya; that's really got to be burning you up...at the core. It would me. Can you provide some more info about the lock you mention? Who/what/when/where/how much? Thanks. Best regards, Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNXKDWR+YC0eKA/vCEQIveACgv1BGABL1xYz3IdS7A/NcPyANGSIAoM8O Ilr9hJbL898eZJbu9Q0YQD1Q =m3sm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Richard A. Nadeau > Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 10:04 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: PC Theft > > > Attention: > > Watch your bikes.... > > This happened to me yesterday and I thought I'd share it with all of you. > > I travelled with a friend 2-up yesterday from Nashville, TN to Metropolis, > Il. (The home of Superman, Yes they do have a statue there of him > infront of > the Law Enforcement Center) The trip was about 3 hours one way and I am > going to replace that seat! Anyways, we parked at the Casino > parking lot in > a parking space that was protected on 3 sides by large immovable objects, > (light pole, Metal Pylons). I parked the bike on the center satnd > and locked > the handlebars. I secured the helmets in the Givi box and we went on the > riverboat casino at 2:50 pm. At 3 pm the riverboat casino was headed up > river with us on it while someone was attempting to steal my PC. > Apparently > they could not move the bike with the handlebars locked so the threw it > down. Damage to the bike: Right side mirror assembly, the mirror > was broken, > the assembly was broken with a large chunk of plastic gone; Right > front and > rear fairing protectors, those have many major 2 inch long and very deep > scratches; right handlebar end cap; right passenger footrest; the > right side > trunk, both upper and lower portions. Somebody called security at 3:20 to > report the bike was 'knocked over' but I did not find out about it till 8 > pm. And No, I did not win at the casino. I called the city police > and filed > a report and tomorrow I go to the shop to see what the repairs > will cost. It > just so happens that my dealer is also my insurance agent. > Hopefully I will > only have to pay the deductable. > > I do not know if this was just a fluke or if the PC is becoming a 'hot' > item. I have already ordered a different lock for the PC. It will make the > clutch lever immovable. That way the thief 1) Can't start it 2) Can't > move it if the bike is left in gear and 3) will notice the lock and > hopefully go somewhere else to steal. > > I hope your weekend was better than mine... > > > Richard Nadeau > 96 PC > Nashville, TN > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 03:47:21 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Doug CC: PC800 Group Subject: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter Hi Doug! O.K.! Here's the scoop on the digital voltmeter. It works really well, is easy to see, is easy to install, and really clashes with the rest of the instruments!! I think I'd reccommend the VDO for aesthetics, but if you want to know your voltage to the nearest 10th, this voltmeter works really well. What I haven't tried yet, is to make the red LED's look blue (or at least something other then red!). I'll different color celephane at first, and then I'll use some type of coloring, if it's at all possible. I know it's pretty hard to change the color of an LED!! :( Take care, Phil P.S.- Cruise rpm shows about 13.7 volts and idle rpm shows about 12.4. :) --------------------------- Doug wrote: > Phil, > I guess u have had your JC Whitney digital meter long enough for an > evaluation, soooo, how is it. > Accurate, ease of installation, does it bounce around while trying to read > it if riding, etc, heard some stories of digitals not being recommended for > motorcycles. > Anyway, would appreciated your opinion. > I still haven't made up my mind and am looking at the VDO too. > Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:51:29 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Donald Mackie Subject: PC800: Americade Fellow Americaders: well after a rock and roll night of wind, thunderstorms and tornadoes, the weather looks great this morning in the Boston area. Leaving this afternoon and expect to arrive around 8:00 pm at my second home at Lake St. Catherine, Poultney, VT,(about 35 miles due east of Lake George). I'll be in VT Monday and Tuesday evenings. For those of you arriving early to Americade looking for a short ride and some PC camraderie, you're most welcome to my place either for the night or for a quick hello. Directions: proceed E to Vermont Rte. 30 and Poultney. Take the Lake St. Catherine West Shore road to its paved end, proceed a couple of hundred yards on a dirt road ("Paquette Lane) and you'll see a series of zig-zag stairs with octagonal landings on your left ("Mackie" placard is attached to one of the stair sets). Continue up and around on dirt road to drive entry. Re Tuesday evening, it'd be great to get some PC folks together. I'll make an effort to hit the 5:00 pm rendezvous at the diner. If there's interest perhaps we can cobble together an impromptu barbeque at the Lake. See you there! Don Mackie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by InterJet.systest.com, id smtpd013845; Mon Jun 1 07:49:35 1998 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Brian Hopkins To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:30:12 -0700 I just did the exact same thing. But, as you can see I've kept both bikes since they fit perfectly how I ride. Brian D. Hopkins Bhopkins@systest.com Denver, Colorado '96 VFR "rebellious son" '97 PC800 "Mama Viff" > There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cory [SMTP:hsta@cybrtown.com] Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 3:40 PM To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Greetings Greetings former fellow PC'ers! This is Cory, a former PC rider, turncoat VFR rider who now wants to come back into the fold! Know if anybody who wants to buy a VFR? I've decided to go back to riding a PC again, but have to get rid of the VFR first. Of course, along those same lines, anybody out there selling their PC? Later, Cory (Be gentle w/ me, at least I've seen the error of my ways!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:41:54 EDT To: annreid@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Footpegs & Backrest's Luggage Rack Hi Ann, I liked your comment about her "price" of the labor on the rack install. I did a simialr thing, except I had my sculptor buddy make my rack out of stailess steel. The weak link as turned out to be the Honda backrest. Mine has broken twice. It appears that the upright portion of the backrest is not strong enough to support/resist the vibration added to the system by riding the bike. It seemed to be plenty strong enough, just cracked above where the uprights are welded to the rest of the system. I'm going GIVI..... TZ Chicago -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:05:08 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: Doug , PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 03:47:21AM -0700, Phil Lewis wrote: -> -> O.K.! Here's the scoop on the digital voltmeter. It works really well, is -> easy to see, is easy to install, and really clashes with the rest of the -> instruments!! I think I'd reccommend the VDO for aesthetics, but if you want -> to know your voltage to the nearest 10th, this voltmeter works really well. -> What I haven't tried yet, is to make the red LED's look blue (or at least -> something other then red!). I'll different color celephane at first, and then -> I'll use some type of coloring, if it's at all possible. I know it's pretty -> hard to change the color of an LED!! :( -> -> Take care, -> -> Phil -> -> P.S.- Cruise rpm shows about 13.7 volts and idle rpm shows about 12.4. :) I installed one of these on my PC and my V65 Magna. The one on the PC is not bad... I also installed an E-meter on my PC, and it is much more accurate... the JC Whitney is not near as accurate to what the real voltage is. The JC Whitney voltmeter that I installed on my Magna definitely has a problem. It doesn't keep time... it is about 30 minutes off per week.. and it reads extremely high... it has gone over 15 volts.. which it should never read. I do like having a clock that is fairly easy to read (at least during the day). - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:19:46 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: lud96@netdirect.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... On Sun, May 31, 1998 at 09:35:40PM -0500, The Ludingtons wrote: -> has anyone installed a 12 volt power port/lighter on a PC for a cell -> phone hook uo and charger?...I am going to be traveling and would like a -> port for my phone and/or laptop to plug into....I can not leave the -> office back in Carmel.....Also, has anyone mounted a cup holder on a -> PC?.... I found a power port at a boating store.. it has a waterproof cap. I mounted it directly in the fairing because I wanted to be able to use it while I am riding... for my GPS. It is not switched power just in case I feel like using it for a cellphone or GPS while I am parked. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:21:11 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Richard A. Nadeau" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Theft On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 09:03:57PM -0500, Richard A. Nadeau wrote: -> -> I do not know if this was just a fluke or if the PC is becoming a 'hot' -> item. I have already ordered a different lock for the PC. It will make the -> clutch lever immovable. That way the thief 1) Can't start it 2) Can't -> move it if the bike is left in gear and 3) will notice the lock and -> hopefully go somewhere else to steal. I have never seen this type of lock.. can you give us a little more information about it? It sounds interesting... very interesting. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 08:30:09 -0700 From: Gail Anundson To: pc Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage --------------1469E09A0EBB7ACC3FBF0AF4 Steve Wilson wrote: > My mileage is almost identical. Sorry! I have a tall Rifle shield and > I > am a 265 lb. load, if those make much difference. I have short Rifle but I was getting incidents of poor mileage before I switched windshields. I weigh about 190 lbs and was carrying about 40 lbs of luggage. It should be much better. Thanks for the reply. Bob > > > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, > and too many other options to list. > (My Wife might see!) --------------1469E09A0EBB7ACC3FBF0AF4 Content-Description: Card for Gail Anundson begin: vcard fn: Gail Anundson n: Anundson;Gail org: A&W adr: ;;8768 SW Iroquois;Tualatin;Or;97062;USA email;internet: boba@teleport.com title: Principal tel;work: 503 692 7906 tel;fax: 503 692 7906 tel;home: 503 692 2841 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------1469E09A0EBB7ACC3FBF0AF4-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Scot Piper Subject: PC800: ettiquette and the law To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu 2 friends just started riding and have brought up many questions I have never thought about in the 23 years I've been riding. Good refresher to ride with newbies. If 2 bikes are riding together and arrive at a 4 way stop, do they both go at the same time? How about 3 or 4 bikes in a group? What is the law? How about some group riding tips and ettiquette? Legally, does your foot have to touch the ground at a stop sign to make it a complete stop? Well, looks like 40's in the morning and a high of 65 all week long in MI. Where is that gorgeous El Nino (La Nina?) summer? Scot '89 PC800 ---------- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:20:42 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings Hi, Cory: Is this the same Cory that used to romp around Alaska with Juan and then got transferred to Wright-Pat? If so, welcome back; we've missed you. If not, welcome back anyway. Actually, I've been rather seriously coveting a VFR of late, but I want the new 800. My problem is that I don't want to get rid of my current "local/play bike," a Hawk GT, (or any of my other bikes) and I can't figure out where I could put another bike in my garages (yes, that's plural!). There seems to be some kind of relationship between the PC and the VFR. Bryce had/has both, and I believe that there are at least two others on the list who ride both. Must be something there. Smooth, linear power, comfort, handling. All seem applicable to both in some measure. Hmmm? Anyway, glad you're back Cory. Hope you find a PC soon. JT JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:20:41 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Hi, Bob: Mileage in the low 40's to high 30's is to be expected at 80-85mph, especially if you have a large windscreen and/or a large upper body. You didn't say where you ride, but if it is at a high altitude or a place where the wind gets strong, they too can drop the mileage way down. My '89 with the tall Hondaline shield gets in the low 50's at 65 mph on a level interstate with no wind here in middle Tennessee. The same bike got 37 mpg at 80-85 mph on I-70 in Colorado while bucking a 15 knot headwind a few years back. My riding buddies on an ST-1100 and a CBR-1000F got much worse mileage than they were accustomed to getting, but their reduction wasn't quite so severe since their aerodynamics are a bit better. Aerodynamic drag varies with speed, and that's "airspeed" not "groundspeed"--if you've got a headwind it gets added to your speedometer reading. And drag goes up as the square of the speed. That is, it takes four- times the horsepower to maintain an "airspeed" of 60 mph as it does to maintain 30 mph. At 90 mph, it takes nine-times as much. Making more horsepower simply takes more gas! Add a rich mixture due to high altitude, and it gets even worse. If your mileage were simply lower that it has been historically under the same riding conditions, then I would suspect a dirty air filter. But your experience seems to be more the result of large throttle openings rather than any mechanical problem. Regards, JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:33:43 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: PC800 Sighting, Etc. --------------F210A20D19A269474FC48C49 Fellow Coasters: Since I am a big motor sports fan, I was watching the Fram Route 66 Nationals drag races from Chicago this evening. On one shot of the prestaging area I saw a familiar shape in the background -- A 1989 PC800! Who is this person? Is this a team pit vehicle? Is the owner on our list? I tried to find someone to ride with today, but couldn't find a another rider or a back seat passenger. So, I did the "little red hen" thing and went for a spin by myself. I took back roads from home (Snellville, Ga.) to Winder, to Jefferson, to Commerce and got on US441 and road to Tallulah Gorge. I saw a sign for the power plant and turned off the main road. It eventually turned into a winding, steep, 3 mile gravel road to the base of the dam. The views were beautiful. There are nice picnic grounds and a boat ramp to launch into the river. Another dirt road that went to the top of the dam for another view. I them road on to the scenic overlook of the gorge, then across the river bridge to the State Park. I turned back and ate a good country lunch at a small restaurant on the main road. I came back through Toccoa, Jefferson, and Winder. Total trip -- over 200 miles. It was quite warm in the saddle. By the way, I use an old fishing all day in a vinyl seat trick -- Fill your underwear with baby powder. Reduces the chapping. On the way out from home I grabbed a pocket AM/FM cassette player and stopped at Wally World (WalMart) and bought some ear buds. I listened to cassettes on the way up and the Winston Cup race on the way back. I thought it worked great although the ear buds did fall out a couple of times when I turned my head too far. On one more note I did talk to the NHTSA investigator that is looking into our complaint about the windshield distortions Friday. He asked a lot of questions trying to determine if safety is an issue. Incidentally, he is a certified motorcycle safety instructor. Maybe he will intercede with Honda and get them to correct the problem. Pat McNew 1996 PC800, I have named her "The Lady in Red" --------------F210A20D19A269474FC48C49 Fellow Coasters:

Since I am a big motor sports fan, I was watching the Fram Route 66 Nationals drag races from Chicago this evening.  On one shot of the prestaging area I saw a familiar shape in the background -- A 1989 PC800!  Who is this person?  Is this a team pit vehicle?  Is the owner on our list?

I tried to find someone to ride with today, but couldn't find a another rider or a back seat passenger.  So, I did the "little red hen" thing and went for a spin by myself.  I took back roads from home (Snellville, Ga.) to Winder, to Jefferson, to Commerce and got on US441 and road to Tallulah Gorge.  I saw a sign for the power plant and turned off the main road.  It eventually turned into a winding, steep, 3 mile gravel road to the base of the dam.  The views were beautiful.  There are nice picnic grounds and a boat ramp to launch into the river.  Another dirt road that went to the top of the dam for another view.

I them road on to the scenic overlook of the gorge, then across the river bridge to the State Park.  I turned back and ate a good country lunch at a small restaurant on the main road.  I came back through Toccoa, Jefferson, and Winder.  Total trip -- over 200 miles.  It was quite warm in the saddle.  By the way, I use an old fishing all day in a vinyl seat trick -- Fill your underwear with baby powder.  Reduces the chapping.

On the way out from home I grabbed a pocket AM/FM cassette player and stopped at Wally World (WalMart) and bought some ear buds.  I listened to cassettes on the way up and the Winston Cup race on the way back.  I thought it worked great although the ear buds did fall out a couple of times when I turned my head too far.

On one more note I did talk to the NHTSA investigator that is looking into our complaint about the windshield distortions Friday.  He asked a lot of questions trying to determine if safety is an issue.  Incidentally, he is a certified motorcycle safety instructor.  Maybe he will intercede with Honda and get them to correct the problem.

Pat McNew
1996 PC800,  I have named her "The Lady in Red" --------------F210A20D19A269474FC48C49-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 1998 07:26:40 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Pc List" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Costa rica attatched file! Date: Mon, 01 Jun 98 17:19:16 PDT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Your mail reader is not using the MIME attachment standard. To read all of this message, use a MIME V1.0 compliant reader. Some parts of this message may be in a human readable form. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --896746901=_Mail_2_=303516385 Ron Grant in Brisbane, Australia! --896746901=_Mail_2_=303516385 was much more of a mainstream traveller destination. Many went there on the standard 2 week package with rental car, something that is almost unknown in the wilder neighbouring countries. Undoubtedly this is a result of the reputation of Costa Rica as a long term democracy, and its freedom for many years from the armed conflicts of the countries to its north. In fact, the country plays on this fact, to the gentle derision of its neighbours. In many shops I saw T-shirts with the appellation, Costa Rica Army....showing a line of marching leafcutter ants! For me, this was seen as a definite disadvantage! My reputation back in the office in Brisbane is based on the wild and risky places I go to. Ah well, I thought, I will just have to settle for some fantastic scenery! Travellers had advised me that the crossing into Costa Rica would be a measure more efficient than others, and they were correct. Not so sure it was any quicker, though, as several large busloads from Nicaragua arrived just before me. One little extra trick they have is that you must buy vehicle insurance from the government, at the border, for the duration of your entry permit. I think 30 days cost me about $30.For the first time, no special vehicle details were stamped into my passport. I did, though , see the Customs officer, take details from my Title and enter them into the computer. I was especially interested in this, as I was planning to sell my motorcycle there, and I always like to know what kind of enforcement technology I am up against when planning a dodgy move. I was pleasantly suprised to find the first 120 km. to the town of Liberia was quite a good road. What about all these warnings? In any case I found a nice guesthouse for the night , and after settling took a walk around town. I soon realised that there were a number of big parties going on, and a few inquiries brought the news that the once-every-four-years election was the next day. What luck, I would be able to see all the excitement of a Latin American election! Sure enough, on rising the next day, the partisans were out in force, and a particular feature of the election was that everyone declares their support by wearing the T-shirt of one of the two parties. Well, I thought, I will just have to pick one side to support, also. For me it was easy, I had no interest in ideology or policy or personality, I just picked the guy with the best T-shirt! Then I went to his headquarters, got one from the campaign manager, and got a gaggle of similarly clad supporters to surround me for a photo. Later in the day, on the road to Monteverde, I stopped for directions at the home of similarly garbed fans , and when I opened my jacket to reveal my allegiance, the whole family came out of the house to cheer! Leaving town and heading to Monteverde Cloud Forest, I found the bad roads. The map I had was not too detailed, and after the road turned to dirt and dust I could not really believe that I was still 40 km. from such a world renowned attraction. The locals assured me this was the only way to get there, though, so I persevered. This was undoubtedly the worst road I have ever travelled. I was absolutely amazed, as I had already seen that the economic situation in Costa Rica was significantly better than the rest of Central America. The houses and towns were much better built. I mused how in Honduras there had been magnificent roads passing in front of hovel shacks, now I was on a broken goat track passing lovely homes! I silently gave thanks that I would be selling the motorcycle , as no one would want to keep a machine after the pounding it was taking on this road! Of course a necessary part of that plan included a successful navigation of the road, and that thought prompted another, more earnest prayer. The scenery , though, was indeed stupendous , and as I gained altitude the real meaning of cloud forest became apparent as big cumulous examples rolled through a blue sky , across the hilltops , and spilled down the pastures to a level even with the road. At about 1/2 distance I turned a corner to see 3 local lads swimming in a small lake, and in a flash the motorcycle gringo had doffed his duds and joined them! Finally me and my dusty and shaken steed arrived in the town of Santa Elena , the closest to the three main rainforest walking areas collectively referred to as Monteverde . All along the rutted track I had wondered what the town would be like , surely it would not consist of rutted and boulder strewn tracks , also! Wrong , again! Improvement is soon to come , though. The town consists of a triangle of streets , each about 200 meters long. One was paved with cobblestones , and I could see construction commencing on the other two segments. My guesthouse , the Toucan , was on the paved 1/3, and it was so funny to sit on the balcony and watch drivers and local motorcyclists luxuriate on the only smooth road for 50 km. in any direction! They were obviously in such a quandary , wanting to finally go fast and revel in the smoothness , but if they did speed up it would all be over in 10 seconds! Im sure when the triangle is complete drivers will just go round and round for hours , just to get the bumps out of their machines! During my stay in Santa Elena I was to become aware of one of the hidden costs for many tourists visiting on a short vacation. I met many that had arranged a small cheap rental car as part of the pre-paid package. When they arrive to pick up the car in San Jose they soon find that the rental company wont let that car go to ANY of the places they had planned due to the ridiculous dirt roads. The tourist is then obliged to either change the whole nature of their vacation , or upgrade to a 4 wheel drive at about $60 more per day! Big additional expense. Once again I could not help but feel a bit smug , as my $500 motorcycle was giving me a relaxed look at the same areas that many were paying $100 per day just to navigate around. I had several most memorable experiences in this area. The first was when I was an early customer one morning for the recently opened canopy tour along a path linked by 5 high swinging suspension bridges. The bridges are really impressive , and often place you over 100 feet above the valley floor , even level with the tops of trees. A male and female pair of the elusive Quetzal birds landed in a branch only 20 feet from my vantage point , and rested long enough for me to focus for a good photo. Later that day , back in the village , the local tour operator said to me that the best deal in town was the free view from the top of a firewatcher tower across the mountains to the active Arenal volcano. It is free because the Reserve Santa Elena in which the tower is built closes at 4 p.m. and the staff go home leaving the trails unattended. When he told me that the paying customers that go earlier cant see the view because the clouds only disperse everyday towards dusk , I was on the bike and off like a shot! I spent a wonderfully tranquil hour on the top of the tower, the setting sun on one side and the volcano on the other , just magnificent! The next morning I left along the out road from Santa Elena , taking the long way around so as not to have to go over the dirt road on which I had come in. This route was still 40 km. of dirt and boulders , but in a bit better shape. As I hit the paved section and headed for the Arenal volcano , the route took me around Lake Arenal. This was a fabulous road , good pavement with great scenes of the crystal clear lake. On the north side of the lake I stopped for photos of the lushest green vegetation I have ever seen , its verdant growth spilling down the hillsides onto the road. I could see it was a constant cutting and clearing task for road crews to keep the blacktop open. As I approached the perfect towering cone that is Arenal I found myself stopping often for another photo , each time thinking incorrectly that surely I wont find a more spectacular viewpoint! In the town of Fortuna I found another great guesthouse just off the main street. All the rumours had been that Costa Rica was going to be much more expensive than Honduras or Nicaragua , but I was not finding this so. I was paying between $6 and $10 for a much nicer room than in the previous countries , and food at local restaurants seemed about the same. If I was paying a bit more , the improved quality of the service seemed more than worth the small extra cost. It is true that because of the much higher tourist traffic , much more expensive accommodation is available , but the cheap places were so nice I was not tempted to spend more. At Cabinas Sissy I met the only other motorcycle tourers on my entire trip, other Aussies! They had flown to Los Angeles and bought their Kawasaki 650 dual purpose machine there , and were headed for Chile. They had fallen victims to what I saw as lack of research , as things had not been as easy as they hoped getting set up in L.A. It had taken them almost a month to find a suitable big dual purpose bike , as they are really scarce there , not like in Oz. And of course getting around such a metropolis to even look at machines was difficult , eventually they had to commission a dealer to find one for them , and they spent a lot more than they had planned. We both learned that the volcano was in an unusual lengthy period of dormancy , so much so that the townspeople were beginning to worry that they may lose their tourist traffic. Luck was with us, though , and as I returned to the guesthouse at about 7 p.m. I heard a rumble and looked up. Amid loud cheers from all the townfolks , the peak erupted and we could see the red hot lava roll down the side! From Fortuna I headed on the main road to San Jose , time for the trip was running out and I figured the capital would be the best place to sell the motorcycle and head off on my pre-arranged flight to New York. Through a travellers club that I am a member of , I was able to stay with a lovely lady and her family just outside the main city. As I approached her house I saw a motorcycle in the neighbours drive , and suggested to her that the neighbour may know someone interested in my machine. She quickly called her cousin back up the road in Liberia , and we arranged a deal over the phone! As my inquiries to others had resulted in a long list of customs and paperwork hassle explanations , I was really quite amazed. Dont worry , my host assured me , my cousin has a friend in customs at the border , so it wont be any problem. We agreed that I would take another 3 days to do a trip out to the coast , then return and head up to Liberia to cement the sale. I did get a day in San Jose , and although it is a safer and more pleasant capital than the others in Central America , the zoo was quite decrepit , and the Jade Museum was closed , so I really did not do anything too outstanding. The parks are nice , and if you want high fashion clothes and shoes , there are lots to choose from! Riding to Quepos and Manuel Antonio Park , the road on the Trans America highway took me up to the highest elevation on the highway , at over 13 000 ft. I had worried my little 22 h.p. baby would run out of puff at that height , but no worries. The guidebook had said that there is an Antennae Farm at the highest point , in fact you must leave the main road and climb on dirt another 500 ft. to reach the antennas and the peak , another task handled with aplomb by my trusty Yamaha. At the very top I parked , pulled out my little hand held GPS receiver , and got a photo of it on my tank bag reading 13 524 ft! As I looked around , I realized that from a certain point I could see both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. I wonder how many places on land you can do that from! Later that day , on the beach in Quepos , my GPS showed its accuracy by reading zero elevation. Dropping elevation , I soon turned off the main road again towards the seaside town of Dominical , and back on another 40 km. of my old friend , the dirt road , for the run into Quepos. One front fork seal had long ago given up the ghost , Im sure that at this point there was only a small fraction of the suggested fork oil volume in the left leg , but in true Jap bike fashion she just soldiered on without complaint. As with the other towns I had visited in Costa Rica , I was soon safely ensconced in a fine clean guesthouse for less than $10 for the night I had come to Quepos on a bit of a mission , I wanted to see wild monkeys . This had so far eluded me in spite of trekking in areas where they had been purported to be common. I had been told they were guaranteed in Manuel Antonio park. Still , I was sceptical , and on hearing that the best chances would be in the early a.m. I took advantage of my personal transport situation and positioned myself at the park entrance as it prepared to open at 8 a.m. As the quickest entrant I headed straight for the trails and maintained a quiet and respectful presence , and sure enough was rewarded with a number of reasonably close sightings. Mission accomplished. I found a near deserted beach , and had a lovely hour swim before returning to the main park kiosk area.Well , it was MONKEY CITY back there! It seems that they know that the human picnic booty is at its high point right about 11 a.m., and they always come down for their share. The area is festooned with Do Not Feed The Monkeys signs , and the humans were trying to comply , but those pesky monkeys cant read! They would surround a likely looking table and while one was distracting with a bit of a snarl or cute trick , others would lunge for the goodies. As soon as the food was scattered the poor humans didnt have a chance! And the signs warning that the monkeys BITE was only helping their cause! After about an hour of monkey grabbing and human squealing the Rangers showed up in force to end the party. The next day I headed back over the mountains and more dirt road to San Jose , and then to Liberia to sell the motorcycle. In fact my last riding day proved to be the longest of the entire trip , as I went from San Jose to Liberia then to the Nicaragua border , and back to Liberia for the night , about 450 km. in all. In spite of all the dire warnings , the sale procedure was fairly straightforward , although lengthy. We arrived at the border Customs Broker about 2 p.m. and left with a legal transfer just after they closed at 5:30 p.m. There was a potentially major hick-up when they discovered that I did not have the official title , but rather the temporary now expired one that was issued on the date of sale in Florida , but they finally allowed it to suffice. The new owner payed $200 duty which was about 50% of the USA blue book value of the machine. Because of the high rate it is important for anyone planning on selling in Costa Rica to have an old machine. In fact , I would really recommend one pay at the border on first entry , as then you could sell anywhere at your convenience. My motorcycle tour was over! With all details attended to I returned by bus to San Jose and the next day headed on to New York, where I would rest for a few weeks before flying to Thailand to get another motorcycle and start another adventure! As I write this the Honda NSR 150 RR that I bought in Thailand and rode 5000 km. on has just arrived back in Brisbane , and THAT is another story....but Im afraid it is time go OUT FOR A RIDE!!! Ron Grant Brisbane , Australia June 1998 ւŏ ŠƏ悁$f筂 ffffXf1 䂏ꁦgŏQfŠ悏悏^f ՁXfՏ穂Տ祂Տ終Տ 䵧ׂgfIff Iff$f筂ŏ ŠƏ悏ꁦgꁧgŏ Šfgg IfIff$f筂Ƃ ŏWJg _悏ŏ笂fg fgŏŠÊ gf$f筂 笂ɏҁ؏碂碕-碕-碕- -ŏQfŠ悏^fƏ 悁$f筂碂壔䠩0f ̏磂ɏҁ؏碂ُ碂碂碕䠥0ff Ff䠵0f̏砂悏f堵0f̏硂 ɏҁ؏碂碕-ُ碂碂碕Ƃf碕悁 整f̏箂؏碂碕‚ُ碂碂̏硂碕f 悁8f粃Ffύ?i鍀ꪨ ͛뢮ɋ쬮񸴼 ӑ޺ŷړݝߍ۹^غŃ殯 昙顠闖ileOpen --896746901=_Mail_2_=303516385-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Prather To: "'boba@teleport.com'" , "'John La'" Cc: "'pclist'" Subject: RE: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:19:45 -0800 Hi guys, Check the list archives. There is something about a vacuum component of the fuel system leaking that causes poor mileage. Several people have had the problem, which is often accompanied by a fuel smell. FYI, I never get less than 45 mpg on the highway with my '96 w/3K mi. even if I ride some stretches at 85 mph. I run the stock shield (will be replaced in the near future) and I'm 6'0, 240 lb. Dave '96 PC >---------- >From: John La[SMTP:johnla@yahoo.com] >Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 11:09 PM >To: boba@teleport.com >Cc: pclist >Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage > > > >I've never been able to get more than 35 and usually around 30 in the >city. No sympathy here. > >:( > >John > > >---Gail Anundson wrote: >> >> My gas mileage started to go down. At first it was just in town. >Then on >> a couple of trip it varied from 42 mpg to over 50 under pretty much >the >> same driving conditions. As a suggestion from someone I balanced the >> carbs. Since I screwed up at first I don't know whether they were >out of >> balance to begin with. Anyway I think I got them balanced. This >weekend >> I went on a trip. The worst mileage was 37mpg (80 mph to 85mph) and >the >> best 46 (65 mph) but for the most part it was around 40mpg (75 mph >to 80 >> mph). The power is great, the bike is very smooth, and the rolloff >> quick. I'm at a loss since nothing seems to be leaking. This '94 has >> less than 8K miles on it. >> >> Any suggestions especially from someone who has experience the same >> thing, would be appreciated. >> >> >> Regards, >> Bob >> > >> begin: vcard >> fn: Gail Anundson >> n: Anundson;Gail >> org: A&W >> adr: ;;8768 SW Iroquois;Tualatin;Or;97062;USA >> email;internet: boba@teleport.com >> title: Principal >> tel;work: 503 692 7906 >> tel;fax: 503 692 7906 >> tel;home: 503 692 2841 >> x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 >> x-mozilla-html: TRUE >> end: vcard >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:42:59 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pclist) On Mon, Jun 1, 1998, 6:09:30 AM GMT John La wrote: >I've never been able to get more than 35 and usually around 30 in the >city. No sympathy here. >> My gas mileage started to go down. At first it was just in town. >Then on >> a couple of trip it varied from 42 mpg to over 50 under pretty much >the >> best 46 (65 mph) but for the most part it was around 40mpg (75 mph >to 80 >> mph). Is there a pattern here? What windshields are you using? I've been getting around 48 around town and around 53 on the highway (75 mph). I did recently sync the carbs. Mine has a stock windshield with SAENG edging. I'm considering a 20" Rifle windshield, but now I'm wondering how much it will affect my mileage. Greg Torok 97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA01155; Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:59:07 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: sapiper@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: etiquette and the law Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:00:52 -0700 > -----Original Message----- >From: Scot Piper [SMTP:sapiper@yahoo.com] >If 2 bikes are riding together and arrive at a 4 way stop, do they >both go at the same time? How about 3 or 4 bikes in a group? >What is the law? Depends upon STATE law. Varies by location. >Legally, does your foot have to touch the ground at a stop sign to >make it a complete stop? No. A good trials rider can stop for fifteen minutes without putting his foot down. You have to stop, not put your foot down. HOWEVER, in practice, this is Officer Friendly's call. And the judge will believe Officer Friendly, not you. So PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN and make it obvious. This is also an excellent opportunity to look both ways for traffic to make sure the way is clear, or that traffic is actually stopping at the light/sign for the cross street. (Or that you can safely go even if they fail to stop.) Even look both ways on a one-way street; it is amazing how many people will drive the wrong way on a one-way street! Todd Vierheller '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage To: "Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council" , pclist Greg, et al, Rifle +6", however I noticed little or no change after switching from the stock shield. Also, I'm told that the larger windscreen reduces drag because it has less resistance than if the wind is hitting something less streamline like your head and body. FWIW, YMMV. Ride Safe. John ---"Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council" wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 1998, 6:09:30 AM GMT John La wrote: > > > >I've never been able to get more than 35 and usually around 30 in the > >city. No sympathy here. > > >> My gas mileage started to go down. At first it was just in town. > >Then on > >> a couple of trip it varied from 42 mpg to over 50 under pretty much > >the > >> best 46 (65 mph) but for the most part it was around 40mpg (75 mph > >to 80 > >> mph). > > Is there a pattern here? What windshields are you using? I've been getting > around 48 around town and around 53 on the highway (75 mph). I did recently > sync the carbs. Mine has a stock windshield with SAENG edging. I'm considering > a 20" Rifle windshield, but now I'm wondering how much it will affect my > mileage. > > Greg Torok > 97 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:51:09 -0400 From: "Gordon B. Frank" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: tires Have not been able to locate Dunlop K177's anywhere. I currently have about 9,000 miles on my current set and don't want to put on K555's. Has anyone had any luck with a set of tires that they would recommend? I'm taking the ERC this week - hope I don't have a problem. Thanks. Gordon Frank > Cybertrol@aol.com wrote: > > Mr. Frank, > > I don't have 177s available for PC800. > I belive the OEM recomended tire for that bikew are now Dunlop K555s. > Prices are: Front = $72.90 Rear = $75.60 cash > Please include your phone number, if you wish to place an order. > Thanks for your interest. Let me know if I may be of service. > Bill Taylor > --- > Thnx for the quick response. > How long before you would ship? By cash do you mean COD? > Thanks for your help. > Gordon Frank 770-390-0521 > How much to ship to Atlanta, Ga.? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:23:24 -0700 From: Gail Anundson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage --------------4997FF3EAC13BDAC7AC53540 Thanks for the reply, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > Hi, Bob: > > Mileage in the low 40's to high 30's is to be expected at 80-85mph, > especially > if you have a large windscreen and/or a large upper body. You didn't > say > where you ride, but if it is at a high altitude or a place where the > wind gets > strong, they too can drop the mileage way down. My '89 with the tall > Hondaline shield gets in the low 50's at 65 mph on a level interstate > with no > wind here in middle Tennessee. The same bike got 37 mpg at 80-85 mph > on I-70 > in Colorado while bucking a 15 knot headwind a few years back. My > riding > buddies on an ST-1100 and a CBR-1000F got much worse mileage than they > were > accustomed to getting, but their reduction wasn't quite so severe > since their > aerodynamics are a bit better. That it didn't get better than 43 under quiet (wind wise) and less thottle (70mph) is what made me wonder. > > > Aerodynamic drag varies with speed, and that's "airspeed" not > "groundspeed"--if you've got a headwind it gets added to your > speedometer > reading. And drag goes up as the square of the speed. That is, it > takes four- > times the horsepower to maintain an "airspeed" of 60 mph as it does to > > maintain 30 mph. At 90 mph, it takes nine-times as much. Making more > horsepower simply takes more gas! Add a rich mixture due to high > altitude, > and it gets even worse. Most of the driving was at 3000 feet, only occasionally going to 5000 > > > If your mileage were simply lower that it has been historically under > the same > riding conditions, then I would suspect a dirty air filter. But your > experience seems to be more the result of large throttle openings > rather than > any mechanical problem. Its the inconsistancy that bothers me probably the most. Air filter has some dirt around with thottle area but lots of clean surface else wear. > > > Regards, > > JT > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --------------4997FF3EAC13BDAC7AC53540 Content-Description: Card for Gail Anundson begin: vcard fn: Gail Anundson n: Anundson;Gail org: A&W adr: ;;8768 SW Iroquois;Tualatin;Or;97062;USA email;internet: boba@teleport.com title: Principal tel;work: 503 692 7906 tel;fax: 503 692 7906 tel;home: 503 692 2841 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------4997FF3EAC13BDAC7AC53540-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:46:37 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Dave Bartlett CC: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter Dave Bartlett wrote: > The JC Whitney voltmeter that I installed on my Magna > definitely has a problem. It doesn't keep time... it is about 30 > minutes off per week.. and it reads extremely high... it has gone over > 15 volts.. which it should never read. O.K. Dave, now I'm confused!! The voltmeter doesn't keep time.............. :( Just checking, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:50:13 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Dave Bartlett CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... Dave Bartlett wrote: > > > I found a power port at a boating store.. it has a waterproof cap. I never would have thought of a boating store! I'll be stopping by one, tomorrow. Thanks, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:56:32 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 12:46:37PM -0700, Phil Lewis wrote: -> -> Dave Bartlett wrote: -> -> > The JC Whitney voltmeter that I installed on my Magna -> > definitely has a problem. It doesn't keep time... it is about 30 -> > minutes off per week.. and it reads extremely high... it has gone over -> > 15 volts.. which it should never read. -> -> O.K. Dave, now I'm confused!! The voltmeter doesn't keep time.............. :( -> -> Just checking, The combination voltmeter/clock from JC Whitney does keep time.... at least that is the one I bought, and the one I assume everyone else bought also. They sell a small digital voltmeter.. my catalogs are at home so I don't know which page. The one that was a combination clock and voltmeter was around $20, and the one without a clock was around $10 or $15. I bought 2 with the clock (1 for each bike), and 1 without a clock for my pickup. The one without a clock plugs into the cigarette lighter, the ones with clocks need to be wired up, or a plug added to it. The one I have on my PC (clock/voltmeter) does keep time, but reads a little high volts.. the one on my Magna doesn't keep time very well, and it also reads high volts. The one in my truck doesn't get used much... in fact, rarely. I don't know how it reads. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:10:49 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Dave Bartlett CC: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter Dave Bartlett wrote: > The combination voltmeter/clock from JC Whitney does keep time.... at > least that is the one I bought, and the one I assume everyone else > bought also. > Thanks Dave! I guess I ordered a different one. The one I got is a fairly large red LED; I guess about the size of the VDO. But it was more expensive, about $34.95. It seems to be very accurate, but it does not include a clock. I'll check out my catalog for the other types you mentioned. Of course, it they don't keep time very well....................... :( Take care, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:13:01 EDT To: lud96@netdirect.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... Dave and Barb, It always amazes me that everytime I do something to Thumper Rabbit, within 24 hrs someone posts a related message! Lo, I just walked in from the driveway after wiring in a power outlet. Got it at Wal-Mart, put it in the trunk, in the space just to the left of the trunk-lifter-thingie. Opposite to the tool bag. When the lid's closed, there's enough clearance for my cell phone's cord, and it can ride softly on whatever's packed in the left side bag. Plus I used 12 gauge wire and took it directly to the battery, so with a small charger, I can pop the trunk, plug in, run the cord past the hinge and out to the charger. Patrick in La. '97 Thumper Rabbit -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:24:49 -0700 To: dlb@cisco.com (Dave Bartlett), pilewis1@concentric.net (Phil Lewis), pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Mon, Jun 1, 1998, 7:50:13 PM GMT Phil Lewis wrote: >I never would have thought of a boating store! I'll be stopping by one, >tomorrow. I'll second the idea of boating stores. I've found that their selection of switches, gauges, etc. are of a much higher quality than automotive stuff (stainless steel construction, bronze contacts, waterproof, etc.). I'll be browsing my local WestMarine soon for switches and gauges and I'll forward any must-have findings. Greg Torok '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:21:18 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 01:10:49PM -0700, Phil Lewis wrote: -> -> Dave Bartlett wrote: -> -> > The combination voltmeter/clock from JC Whitney does keep time.... at -> > least that is the one I bought, and the one I assume everyone else -> > bought also. -> > -> -> Thanks Dave! -> -> I guess I ordered a different one. The one I got is a fairly large red LED; I guess -> about the size of the VDO. But it was more expensive, about $34.95. It seems to be -> very accurate, but it does not include a clock. I'll check out my catalog for the -> other types you mentioned. Of course, it they don't keep time very -> well....................... :( When I do ride for any distance, I usually take along my GPS.. and that does keep perfect time. Not only does it keep me from getting lost, it keeps track of where I have been, the time, speed, distance...everything. You can have it tell you distance from a waypoint, and ETA to the waypoint. Last week I was on a trip with my Magna, and my speedometer cable broke. My GPS kept track of my speed and miles... so I knew when to stop. The E-meter (that I found in a boating store), is great as an ammeter and a voltmeter... the only negative thing I have to say about it is that I had to mount it in my fairing since I didn't want to lose my fairing pocket. It is about 2" x 2or3". It seems very, very accurate. Anytime you want to check the amps or volts, just press a button. It has a timeout value so if you aren't charging or discharging at least one amp, the display will shutdown. (of course that is configurable also) - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:25:35 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council" Cc: Phil Lewis , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 01:24:49PM -0700, Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council wrote: -> -> On Mon, Jun 1, 1998, 7:50:13 PM GMT Phil Lewis wrote: -> -> >I never would have thought of a boating store! I'll be stopping by one, -> >tomorrow. -> -> I'll second the idea of boating stores. I've found that their selection of -> switches, gauges, etc. are of a much higher quality than automotive stuff -> (stainless steel construction, bronze contacts, waterproof, etc.). I'll be -> browsing my local WestMarine soon for switches and gauges and I'll forward any -> must-have findings. My first attempt at an ammeter was a cheap $3 one from JC Whitney.. it was worthless if the engine was running. Then I bought one from a boating store... I believe it was $20 or $30..and it worked very well. The I saw the E-meter... that was $200... and it is hard to justify.. but it does look cool. :) - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:48:06 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Mold? Douglas Ford wrote: > ...I saw some little tiny black spots > on my bike's rims. I tried to wash them off, I tried to spray them off > with some wheel cleaner, and I took a toothpick to those things too, but > nothing seemed to help. These little black spots/specks on my rims look to > me like a mold of somekind. Is there a chemical treatment on the market to > get this gunk off of there? > Any suggestions? Doug, the rims are aluminum and NOT clear coated and will pit easily on exposure to acid rain, salt, general weather if left outdoors. The pitting looks like raised black spots. This is oxide. Using an aluminum wheel polish, or Simichrome, and elbow grease will clean them up. Or it could be road tar if you've driven thru a road construction site or cold patch. Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David Shumaker" To: "'pclist'" Subject: RE: PC800: Really terrible gas mileage Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:54:30 -0700 Importance: Normal Good question. I too have the stock windshield with SAENG edging and get 45 mpg in town and 52 mpg at freeway speed. Dave Dave Shumaker Puyallup, Washington '97 Pacific Coast, " Red Peppers" 3400 miles since Jan 31st. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 11:43 AM To: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Is there a pattern here? What windshields are you using? I've been getting around 48 around town and around 53 on the highway (75 mph). I did recently sync the carbs. Mine has a stock windshield with SAENG edging. I'm considering a 20" Rifle windshield, but now I'm wondering how much it will affect my mileage. Greg Torok 97 PC800 -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by InterJet.systest.com, id smtpd018167; Mon Jun 1 17:00:08 1998 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Brian Hopkins Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: 12Volt power port.... Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:40:45 -0700 Dave Bartlett wrote: > > > I found a power port at a boating store.. it has a waterproof cap. I never would have thought of a boating store! I'll be stopping by one, tomorrow. Thanks, Phil OHOHOHOH be careful. You though motorcycle parts were expensive. Anything with the word "marine" attached is doubled in price. Brian D. Hopkins Bhopkins@systest.com Denver, Colorado '96 VFR "rebellious son" '97 PC800 "Mama Viff" '94 Wellcraft 196 LE SS 'money pit" > There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by InterJet.systest.com, id smtpd018130; Mon Jun 1 16:54:00 1998 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Brian Hopkins To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: ettiquette and the law Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:34:42 -0700 If 2 bikes are riding together and arrive at a 4 way stop, do they both go at the same time? How about 3 or 4 bikes in a group? What is the law? =20 We do. Makes it more noticeable and keeps the group together. In a = large group, maybe two or three at a time. How about some group riding tips and ettiquette? Staggered, never ride exactly next to each other, to always give the = other one room to move. Legally, does your foot have to touch the ground at a stop sign to make it a complete stop? Yes, gotten warnings over this one but no tickets yet. Haven't really = been hassled though as long as I looked like I was pretty close to = stopping (which you can easily do on the PC) Brian D. Hopkins Bhopkins@systest.com Denver, Colorado '96 VFR "rebellious son" '97 PC800 "Mama Viff" > There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:20:26 +0200 To: pilewis1@concentric.net, Dave Bartlett From: HPCE Gerard Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu If you want to know how I did install a power port, go the PCE website at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/mod-batteryload.htm but becarefull the battery isn't that big to use it for charging a phone or somthing else while the bike is not running, you may end up charging the battery instead of your phone! Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe Email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Phone: +31-651220230 (mobile) -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:20:19 +0200 To: David Prather , "'boba@teleport.com'" , "'John La'" From: HPCE Gerard Subject: RE: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Cc: "'pclist'" At 10:19 01-06-98 -0800, David Prather wrote: >Hi guys, > >Check the list archives. There is something about a vacuum component of >the fuel system leaking that causes poor mileage. Several people have >had the problem, which is often accompanied by a fuel smell. FYI, I >never get less than 45 mpg on the highway with my '96 w/3K mi. even if I >ride some stretches at 85 mph. I run the stock shield (will be replaced >in the near future) and I'm 6'0, 240 lb. My "new" '89, with 11,000 miles on it, does between 37 mpg at 75 mph and 40 mpg at 60 mph and I don't have the fuel smell I think these numbers are quite normall for a Pacific Coast, at least that's what I'm told and what I saw in a test. My weight is about 75 Kilograms (sorry for the Kilo) and I'm 6'0 tall and I have a tall windscreen (no Honda screen). You got to remember that it is a reasonable heavy bike, so I think nobody has to be worried if the milage is between 35 and 45. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe Email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Phone: +31-651220230 (mobile) -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:00:02 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12Volt power port.... > Plus I used 12 gauge wire and took it directly to the battery, so with a > small charger, I can pop the trunk, plug in, run the cord past the hinge and > out to the charger. > > Patrick in La. > '97 Thumper Rabbit Folks, Be very careful about installing a power plug with large gauge wire without a fuse. Most power ports are fused at 5 amps. This doesn't require more than 16 gauge wire. If you short out some thing in a power port on 12 gauge wire hooked directly to the battery you can start a fire very quickly! The weakest link will burn up first, usually the cord to the appliance. Pat McNew -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:10:05 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Lets Synchronize Our Watches Fellow Coasters: Just a friendly request. My Email sort messages in date sent order. I belive that date and time are from the sending PC. Many times I read replies to messages that I haven't read the original yet, only to find them further down my list. You PC may not adjust for daylight savings time if you didn't set your time zone correctly or your clock may just be off. Even worse, your clock battery on your mother board may need replacing. Please check you clocks. On Windows 95 it should show in the bottom right corner. Right click on it to make changes. Thanks, Pat McNew 1996 PC800 The Lady In Red -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA03059 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 1998 16:11:12 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gas Mileage should be better Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:12:57 -0700 Your PC's should be getting better mileage. I got around 55-57 during break in on my PC800 (slow), and around 47 after that (because I started driving faster). 47mpg was normal at freeway speeds (60-70mph) and around town (mixed). I weigh in at about 180, and I carried a full "emergency kit" backpack in one side of the trunk which included water. It was quite heavy. The other side typically had my Aerostich bag with my shoes, lunch, (8.5x11) Daytimer, etc. With my Aerostich, probably better than 215 lbs. I had the Tall Hondaline windshield. Of course, riding style will make a BIG difference. If you pull away slowly from stops versus sprinting away from stops it can make a BIG difference. Todd Vierheller '96 Blue R1100RT, "Rain Dancer" (39 mpg) PS. I ran Mobil One after the first 600 miles. I also had extremely fine mechanics at the Lynnwood Cycle Barn. I suspect the bike was always in perfect tune and carb sync due to their thoroughness. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPCE Gerard [SMTP:pce@dsv.nl] > Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 14:20 > To: David Prather; 'boba@teleport.com'; 'John La' > Cc: 'pclist' > Subject: RE: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage > > At 10:19 01-06-98 -0800, David Prather wrote: > >Hi guys, > > > >Check the list archives. There is something about a vacuum component > of > >the fuel system leaking that causes poor mileage. Several people have > >had the problem, which is often accompanied by a fuel smell. FYI, I > >never get less than 45 mpg on the highway with my '96 w/3K mi. even > if I > >ride some stretches at 85 mph. I run the stock shield (will be > replaced > >in the near future) and I'm 6'0, 240 lb. > > My "new" '89, with 11,000 miles on it, does between 37 mpg at 75 mph > and 40 > mpg at 60 mph and I don't have the fuel smell I think these numbers > are > quite normall for a Pacific Coast, at least that's what I'm told and > what I > saw in a test. My weight is about 75 Kilograms (sorry for the Kilo) > and I'm > 6'0 tall and I have a tall windscreen (no Honda screen). You got to > remember that it is a reasonable heavy bike, so I think nobody has to > be > worried if the milage is between 35 and 45. > > Gerard > Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for > Honda Pacific Coast Europe > Email: pce@dsv.nl > Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 > Phone: +31-651220230 (mobile) > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jpatton@neptune.ConnectI.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:37:42 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: gas mileage I have a 89 PC800 and a 94 Shadow VT1100, which get nearly the same mileage (from42-55mpg). They are both ridden under the same conditions, and usually the same roads. I would expect the PC to get better mileage...but it doesn't, as the PC weighs nearly the same as the Shadow. More weight...less power. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Cory" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:49:52 -0400 Yep, JT. It's the same, one and only Cory....Ol' RideSolo. Have retired from the AF now and live in central Ohio not too far from the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course..... :-) I'd probably keep the VFR and find a PC, too, but, alas, funds won't allow that kind of living. The viffer is lots of fun, but a PC will better match my current sytle of riding. Good to hear from you! Cory HSTA Membership Director -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:54:13 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo To: Brian Hopkins CC: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings Besides, one can never have too many motorcycles, eh? Brian Hopkins wrote: > > I just did the exact same thing. But, as you can see I've kept both bikes since they fit perfectly how I ride. > > Brian D. Hopkins > Bhopkins@systest.com > Denver, Colorado > '96 VFR "rebellious son" > '97 PC800 "Mama Viff" > > > There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cory [SMTP:hsta@cybrtown.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 3:40 PM > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: Greetings > > Greetings former fellow PC'ers! This is Cory, a former PC rider, turncoat > VFR rider who now wants to come back into the fold! > > Know if anybody who wants to buy a VFR? I've decided to go back to riding a > PC again, but have to get rid of the VFR first. > > Of course, along those same lines, anybody out there selling their PC? > > Later, > > Cory (Be gentle w/ me, at least I've seen the error of my ways!) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Steve Schiavo Center Point, Texas http://universe.uiwtx.edu/~schiavo/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:59:18 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Having observed this thread some time, JT's seems the best explanation I've seen so far: a dirty air filtercan halve your gas mileage -- and eventually, "choke" out your engine altogether. Some bike vent the oil case near the air cleaner (my Yam XJ700 did that once) such that OVER-FILLING THE OIL splashes onto the aircleaner, choking down the engine -- mileage goes in the ppoer, performance drops off, engine starts to miss and stall. Cleaning the air cleaner with solvent is a good interim -- replacing it is better -- avoiding it is best. Ride happy. JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, Bob: > > Mileage in the low 40's to high 30's is to be expected at 80-85mph, especially > if you have a large windscreen and/or a large upper body. You didn't say > where you ride, but if it is at a high altitude or a place where the wind gets > strong, they too can drop the mileage way down. My '89 with the tall > Hondaline shield gets in the low 50's at 65 mph on a level interstate with no > wind here in middle Tennessee. The same bike got 37 mpg at 80-85 mph on I-70 > in Colorado while bucking a 15 knot headwind a few years back. My riding > buddies on an ST-1100 and a CBR-1000F got much worse mileage than they were > accustomed to getting, but their reduction wasn't quite so severe since their > aerodynamics are a bit better. > > Aerodynamic drag varies with speed, and that's "airspeed" not > "groundspeed"--if you've got a headwind it gets added to your speedometer > reading. And drag goes up as the square of the speed. That is, it takes four- > times the horsepower to maintain an "airspeed" of 60 mph as it does to > maintain 30 mph. At 90 mph, it takes nine-times as much. Making more > horsepower simply takes more gas! Add a rich mixture due to high altitude, > and it gets even worse. > > If your mileage were simply lower that it has been historically under the same > riding conditions, then I would suspect a dirty air filter. But your > experience seems to be more the result of large throttle openings rather than > any mechanical problem. > > Regards, > > JT > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Steve Schiavo Center Point, Texas http://universe.uiwtx.edu/~schiavo/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 98 17:11:34 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: bhopkins@systest.com, steve@schiavo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Greetings I'll second that. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" & '91 400 Bandit "Red Robber" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings Author: steve@schiavo.com at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 6/1/98 5:05 PM Besides, one can never have too many motorcycles, eh? Brian Hopkins wrote: > > I just did the exact same thing. But, as you can see I've kept both bikes since they fit perfectly how I ride. > > Brian D. Hopkins > Bhopkins@systest.com > Denver, Colorado > '96 VFR "rebellious son" > '97 PC800 "Mama Viff" > > > There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cory [SMTP:hsta@cybrtown.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 3:40 PM > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: Greetings > > Greetings former fellow PC'ers! This is Cory, a former PC rider, turncoat > VFR rider who now wants to come back into the fold! > > Know if anybody who wants to buy a VFR? I've decided to go back to riding a > PC again, but have to get rid of the VFR first. > > Of course, along those same lines, anybody out there selling their PC? > > Later, > > Cory (Be gentle w/ me, at least I've seen the error of my ways!) > > -- -- Steve Schiavo Center Point, Texas http://universe.uiwtx.edu/~schiavo/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Mold? Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:14:49 -0400 Doug and Bill: The product I just used this evening on my rims was "Never Dull" it is a non-abrasive cleaning product that looks like cotton wadding treated with some chemicals. My brother used this stuff in the Navy, and swears by it. I also picked up a small container of "Mothers Mag cleaner" which is a paste you apply to the rims. After applying the Never Dull and a little elbow grease I was pleased with the results. It also seemed to leave a protective film over the rim and caused water to bead up nicely. Now all I need is a motorcycle life so I can clean the bike without straining too much... Oops, that sounds like a Harley Option :-) Hope to see folks at the Americade tomorrow. I'l be on a red 1996 PC800 (like there's any other color) with a Corbin Saddle and a Rifle Screen, White Arai Helmet... Jeffrey A. Guntert Petersburg, NY (25 miles east of Albany) Douglas Ford wrote: > ...I saw some little tiny black spots > on my bike's rims. I tried to wash them off, I tried to spray them off > with some wheel cleaner, and I took a toothpick to those things too, but > nothing seemed to help. These little black spots/specks on my rims look to > me like a mold of somekind. Is there a chemical treatment on the market to > get this gunk off of there? > Any suggestions? Doug, the rims are aluminum and NOT clear coated and will pit easily on exposure to acid rain, salt, general weather if left outdoors. The pitting looks like raised black spots. This is oxide. Using an aluminum wheel polish, or Simichrome, and elbow grease will clean them up. Or it could be road tar if you've driven thru a road construction site or cold patch. Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:18:54 -0700 To: jim-nyffeler , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: First Motorcycle At 05:26 PM 5/26/98 -0500, jim-nyffeler wrote: >I am considering a pc800 as a first motorcycle. Is it too large for a >first bike? (I'm 30 something, 6'1", 225 lbs). Hi Jim: The PC800 is not too large if you take the MSF Ridercourse first, to become familiar with the proper way to control a bike safely, then work your way into traffic gradually. I did that a year and a half ago, and have been commuting to work 43 miles one way on the San Diego Freeway on average almost once a week. As for the coat and tie, I managed to ditch mine years ago, and now keep one at the office "for emergencies". If the weather is cool, you should be fine, unless helmet hair bothers you!. Good luck. - Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:16:23 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ettiquette and the law Hi, Scot: I'm no expert in this area, but I suspect that in most states there are no provisions in the law for "formations" as there are in aviation (escorted funeral processsions and parades are about the only exceptions I can think of). Each bike is a separate entity under the law and each must obey the rules as if they had four (or more) wheels. As a practical matter, I suspect that law enforcement wouldn't get excited if bikes departed the stop line in pairs, but groups of four or more would probably earn somebody a failure-to- yield citation if there were conflicting traffic waiting to enter the intersection. I also suspect that some states require a foot-down to qualify as a complete stop. I know for a fact that it used to be that way in California, and I had many riding buddies cited for making a balancing stop-and-go at controlled interesections (I haven't lived there in decades; so it may not be that way now; laws do change). I've looked in the Tennessee Vehicle Code, but I can find no specific definition of what consitutes a complete, full stop on a motorcycle (or any other vehicle). Any Blue Knights on the list who can speak with authority on these points? JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:59:54 CDT by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23024; Mon, 01 Jun 1998 20:58:19 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 20:00:28 -0500 From: "Richard A. Nadeau" Subject: RE: PC800: PC Theft To: Douglas Ford Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu The lock that I mentioned is carried by Competition Accessories ( and I am sure by many other places) and is called a Targa Lever Lock and sells for 37.50. The description is - Fits all clutch and/or brake levers to immobilize the lever(s) and provide a visible deterrent to would-be thieves. Easily installed from a seated position, away from any dirty wheels and hot exhaust and brake components. Lock is visible so you will not forget to remove before operating. Constructed of solid billet aluminium with pin tumbler key lock to make it difficult to cut or break. Basically the lock immobilizes the clutch so it can not be use to start the bike or shift gears. For those who have the Spring catalog, it is on page 43. The phone number is 800-543-5134. Also, I do not know for sure if someone was trying to steal the bike, but it is to damn coincidental that someone would just push the bike over shortly after I arrived. I still believe that someone was watching me park and then get on the boat and they attempted to take the bike. Either way, nobody saw anything and I can't prove anything. Richard Nadeau 96 PC Nashville, TN At 06:34 AM 6/1/98 -0400, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Richard, > >My sentiments. I went through some "damages" very similar to what you >describe about 6 months ago. Just about put me into the "poor house". >Someone decided it would be okay to test their bumber on my new 250mile '97 >PC. Smashed into it, throwing it into the grassed area typically in front >of you as you pull into a parking space in an apartment complex. To my >knowledge, no one in my area has attempted to "lift" my bike yet....thank >goodness. I feel for ya; that's really got to be burning you up...at the >core. It would me. > >Can you provide some more info about the lock you mention? >Who/what/when/where/how much? Thanks. > >Best regards, > >Doug > >***************************************************** >Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net >PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 >PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 >ICQ# 10620095 >"Those who desire to give up Freedom in >order to gain Security, will not have, nor do >they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson >***************************************************** > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP 5.5.5 > >iQA/AwUBNXKDWR+YC0eKA/vCEQIveACgv1BGABL1xYz3IdS7A/NcPyANGSIAoM8O >Ilr9hJbL898eZJbu9Q0YQD1Q >=m3sm >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of >> Richard A. Nadeau >> Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 10:04 PM >> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> Subject: PC800: PC Theft >> >> >> Attention: >> >> Watch your bikes.... >> >> This happened to me yesterday and I thought I'd share it with all of you. >> >> I travelled with a friend 2-up yesterday from Nashville, TN to Metropolis, >> Il. (The home of Superman, Yes they do have a statue there of him >> infront of >> the Law Enforcement Center) The trip was about 3 hours one way and I am >> going to replace that seat! Anyways, we parked at the Casino >> parking lot in >> a parking space that was protected on 3 sides by large immovable objects, >> (light pole, Metal Pylons). I parked the bike on the center satnd >> and locked >> the handlebars. I secured the helmets in the Givi box and we went on the >> riverboat casino at 2:50 pm. At 3 pm the riverboat casino was headed up >> river with us on it while someone was attempting to steal my PC. >> Apparently >> they could not move the bike with the handlebars locked so the threw it >> down. Damage to the bike: Right side mirror assembly, the mirror >> was broken, >> the assembly was broken with a large chunk of plastic gone; Right >> front and >> rear fairing protectors, those have many major 2 inch long and very deep >> scratches; right handlebar end cap; right passenger footrest; the >> right side >> trunk, both upper and lower portions. Somebody called security at 3:20 to >> report the bike was 'knocked over' but I did not find out about it till 8 >> pm. And No, I did not win at the casino. I called the city police >> and filed >> a report and tomorrow I go to the shop to see what the repairs >> will cost. It >> just so happens that my dealer is also my insurance agent. >> Hopefully I will >> only have to pay the deductable. >> >> I do not know if this was just a fluke or if the PC is becoming a 'hot' >> item. I have already ordered a different lock for the PC. It will make the >> clutch lever immovable. That way the thief 1) Can't start it 2) Can't >> move it if the bike is left in gear and 3) will notice the lock and >> hopefully go somewhere else to steal. >> >> I hope your weekend was better than mine... >> >> >> Richard Nadeau >> 96 PC >> Nashville, TN >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id V]H09005; Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:15:46 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot & Newly INSTALLED HWY PEGS! 62-63,66-67,71-72,77-78,82-83,89-90,98-99,104-105,110-111,115, 118,124-125,128-129,133-134,140-141,145-146,151-152,155-163,165-185 From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:15:46 EDT 1) HONDA HOOT 1998 -- Barb & Dave Ludington *OOPS* On accident, I destroyed your e-mail address. *SORRY* Here's the Room Reservation Info: a) COMFORT SUITES: 800/221-2222 [Local 704/665-4000] b) 890 Brevard Rd., Asheville, NC c) I-40, Exit-47 and I-26, Exit-2 d) Res. Conf. #4787-4868 Mon. 6.22 thru Fri. 6.26.98 f) 2-Rm. Suite: Bedroom w/ 1 Q-Bed & sitting room w/ 1 Q-Hide-A-Bed, frige and one bathroom. Requested downstairs and no smoking. g) $61.81 (incl. tax) per night for 2 adults. Each add'l adult will be another $7 + 9% interest (tax). This is w/ my Fossil Discount (AARP). (Rollaway available for $7.) h) I spoke w/ Anna @ 6:40 MST this morning @ Asheville. She said we can (i) leave room in my name; (ii) use your credit card to guarantee late arrival; (iii) change everything into your name. [If you need my fossil discount, no problem.] 2) HONDA HOOT - Our confirmed reservations are: a) Motel-6 for $41.40 (incl. tax) per night. b) Tel. 704/299-3040 c) I-40 Exit-55 3) HONDA HOOT - Super 8 has 3 loc. 800/800-8000 a) I-40, Exit 55 (E Riverside @ 8 Crowell Rd.) $60 b) I-40, Exit 44 (Blk Mtn @ 101 Flat Park Rd.) $48 c) I-40, Exit 64 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $54 d) I can't remember if these prices incl. tax, but they do reflect Super-8 VIP Card 10% discount. I think the discount card costs $10. 4) D'PEGS, D'PEGS - They Be Installed! And I LUV 'EM! a) I took pics of the installation, which took ME no time at all. However, my biker-budd spent a good deal of time mounting the first one and probably 30 minutes installing the 2nd. Must be a man-thing, huh? *HA HA* FMA (For My Amusement): The pics are date AND timed stamped...and being developed at Sam's Club as I write. b) I am terrible at describing technical schtuff. Years ago I developed a simple-minded technique for this shortcoming. I take polaroid pics BEFORE, so I know how things look BEFORE I break them and end up with a handful of EXTRA nuts, bolts and screws AFTER reassembly. Here goes...Open your minds and pretend to understand (so my feelings are spared): 5) MOUNTING FORWARD HWY PEGS ON A PC: Something easy made difficult! SIDE NOTE - THE SOURCE: If you want to communicate directly with the *GOD OF PC INSTALLATIONS* (i.e. Pegs, Windshields, Seats, Backrests, Throttle Locks, Foam Grips, Trunk Piston, Passenger Backrest, Glovebox Door, et al) email: william.hitt@alliedsignal.com a) Buy INexpensive chromed hwy pegs ($12-$20) with the HONDA name on them at any M/C parts store. b) Buy the ones with 2 chrome U-shaped rings (not the heavy duty, pretty solid clamp style). Buy the ones with two pyramid shaped or stairstep looking washers for each peg. And the ones with two heavy obolong pieces approx. 2" long to which the actual footpiece bolts. c) Why? The pretty clamps are way too big and impossible to modify; we tried. The crashbar tubing is maybe 7/8" (.875) in dia. at most and it's not really round. Also, the clamp itself does NOT show anyway! d) First, remove the one screw holding the one-piece silvery plastic covering on the crash bar (black frame tubing), and then carefully remove the plastic itself, being cognizant of the fragile (but obstinent) little plastic tabs holding it in place. e) Take each of the 4 pyramid-shaped washers that came in the peg package and GRIND OFF the smallest washer-step on each of them. If you don't, you will not be able to squeeze the U-Shaped clamps tight enuf to hold securely. After grinding, deburr the center hole of each pyramid washer. f) Take one U-Shaped clamp (2 pieces actually--one small U and one larger U inset inside each other as they come in the package), and place them on the black crashbar approx. where you want your pegs mounted. Mine is just around the bend (sinularly apropos for my mindset). g) Be sure to test position for your own personal comfort and preference BEFORE tightening. You WILL need some heavyduty tools and even more muscle to tighten the U-Shaped clamps. We replaced the bolts that came with clamp set with HARDER BOLTS with more threads (from auto parts store), plus we added washers to each side before actually inserting bolt thru clamp holes. h) Memory Jogger #1: It's the PRECISE position of the U-Clamp that determines the ANGLE of the footpeg itself. I preferred my peg to be ANGLED UP so as to allow my foot to slide naturally toward the bike rather than away from the bike and OFF the peg's end. As a result, I have several COMFORTABLE forward foot positions now available to me including: (i) instep on forward peg; (ii) ankle at heel over peg; (iii) toe pointed away from bike with ball of foot on peg and heel on plastic covering crashbar. i) Memory Jogger #2: I am vertically challenged and so my foot position requirements may be totally different than yours. For long(er)-legged people [read, "90% of the general population"], I am not certain there is a really good installation location available to stretch your legs completely. j) Next, install the heavy obolog bar to the newly attached clamp. I THINK we (*Hmmm* Ok, "He") put a lock nut on the big bolt before screwing the obolong bar onto the new heavierduty bolt. [To quote my 84 yr, old mother, "My memoroids are getting worse. It's a pain in the --- to remember."] k) Before permanently attaching the footpeg itself (other than for position testing purposes), fit the crashbar's silvery plastic piece over the clamp and obolong bar assembly and mark it where you need to cut and file a bit of plastic away for the assembly. You will ONLY need to cut a small amount of plastic on the BOTTOM SIDE. i.e. expanding the existing opening. Do NOT cut any plastic away on upper side of existing hole! It is NOT necessary. SUGGESTION: Put wide masking tape over plastic BEFORE marking with black easy-to-see Magic Marker. Cut, file, and fit a little at time so as to keep expanded opening to a minimum. It doesn't take much. Be stingy with your trimming. However, you will need to trim away one of the small protruding stiffening chunkets of plastic inside. It is a small thingy but it's where you need to be, so snip it. l) Once the plastic hole is complete, reinstall the plastic cover over the crashbar, replacing the one screw and carefully aligning all the little (nuissance) tabs. You're ALMOST done. m) Now attach the flat footpeg itself, the one that has HONDA in big letters on it. Tighten it very very snuggly on the the obolong bar withOUT regard to its tilt. However, the angle should be exactly where you want it. IMPORTANT: The audience is listening. Thx! Angle and Tilt are two different things! ANGLE controls which way your foot slides on the peg, and is determined by the position of the clamp on the crashbar. TILT contols how high the toe of your shoe points up or down, and is determined by swiveling or turning the flat HONDA peg mounted onto the obolong bar. n) The second to last step is to adjust the HONDA footpeg's TILT. Using two wrenches, swivel or turn the footpeg assembly (the entire assembly--obolong bar AND flat peg) till you are satisfied with its position. o) The next to last step is to snug the small bolt holding the footpeg to the obolong bar JUST ENUF to keep it from rattling and allow you to fold the peg up out of the way without straining. *GRUNT, GROAN* I can't remember which way the bolt was put in, but I THINK the nutside was near my heel and the boltend was toward the front of the bike. p) The FINAL STEP was my test ride home, 13 miles on the freeway at a real good clip. PERFECT! NOW, I'm ready to leave for NC. Alas, I must wait till the 18th. *WHIMPER, COMPLAIN* COFFEE BREAK OVER, BACK ON YOUR HEADS! Ann Mon. 6.1.98 15:45 MST P.S. All typos created themselves, when I wasn't looking. I didn't take time to spellcheck it. I know, 30 lashes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:24:10 EDT To: gfrank@ibm.net, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: tires gfrank@ibm.net wrote: "Have not been able to locate Dunlop K177's anywhere. I currently have about 9,000 miles on my current set and don't want to put on K555's. Has anyone had any luck with a set of tires that they would recommend? I'm taking the ERC this week - hope I don't have a problem. Thanks. Gordon Frank" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gordon et. al.: I just recently put on my 2nd set of Metzler ML2 Marathon tires. First set did very well for 12,500 miles; still had workable, safe tread on the rear--probably good for another 1,000+ miles--but decided to trade both front and back at the same time. Front was worn down more, especially on the left-half side. Was very pleased with the performance of the Metzlers the first go-around. So, now past 200 miles on the 2nd set. Pricier than Dunlops but worth the investment, I think. Paid about $240 for the set. Keep them inflated to the recommended 49 psi and they provide excellent traction in all conditions and comfortable, smooth ride. Gary A. Wade Galveston Island, Texas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XqD09005; Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:29:04 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Subj: MILEAGE vs CARBURATOR vs TIRE PRESSURE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:29:04 EDT Hi! 1) SMELLING GAS? (And no beans in sight!) Prior to going to Sturgis in Aug. 1996, I smelled gas when I opened the trap door and complained to the mechanic servicing my bike for the trip. He assured me it was normal and not a problem. *FIBBER* 2) FLOODING CAUSES DROWNING: I got only about 40mpg enroute Sturgis and the oder got worse as did my mileage, plus I began to have trouble with it starting...it was flooding itself. (without my permission!) 3) NO SUBSTITITE for GOOD MECHANIC: I took it into Rice Honda in Rapid City, SD where a super mechanic took the carb apart, replaced a tiny little something (by borrowing the part from a new bike on the floor since none were available in stock), and cleaned everything and put it back together in less than 2 hours. It seems to me it costs less than $150. He let me ask questions and take pictures of him working, so I can look them out if anyone needs/wants more info. 4) EXPECT 50+ MPG: I've had no trouble with it since, and if I drive sensibly I get over 50mpg. In strong winds at altitude and fully loaded (i.e. just got back from North Rim of Grand Canyon, elev. 8900') I got 44-46mpg on a bad day. 5) RIDING STYLE: Confession #1: When I hot throttle it (ie. 85-95) I get at least 45mpg. Confession #2: I am seldom content to make a slow start after a stop. When I learned to ride in 1975 (1st bike a '75 Kaw Z-1) we affectinately referred to our Z's as "The Poor Man's Airplane." 6) FULLY LOADED: I have the tallest Rifle windshield (26" I think) and I carry enuf tools in one saddlebag to start an atuo parts store. And enuf clothes and supplies (repair manual) in the other to qualify as a Salvation Army recycling center. Yes, it looks a like one a small circus car carrying an endless procession of clowns. Plus I carry a huge duffle-bag-on-wheels (approx. 30-35#) on the passenger seat, and I always wear my Camelbac with 90 ozs. of water in it. 7) TIRING FACTOR: Tire inflation is a major factor. I have Metzler Marathons which need to be 49# cold fully loaded, even tho the bike manual says otherwise. This is what Metzler recommends; I called them. I run at 45-47# unloaded and 49# loaded. On one occasion, when I used a bad/broken tire guage and the pressure got down to the low 40's, my mileage decreased accordingly. 8) SET-UP: It's an '89 PC which came with 9,400 miles on it 2 years ago and now has almost 35,000 miles on it. Has a passenger backrest & luggage rack. Orig. owner bot it new in Seattle, moved it to Ariz. and almost never rode it. Lucky me! Bye! Ann Mon. 6.1.98 20:25 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:06:18 -0500 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: Re: 12 volt JC Whitney clock Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <3.0.5.32.19980531144508.007a0b60@mail.vci.net> Francois, >>first got it, everything appeared to be in order but the next >>morning the clock was 60 minutes behind the actual time. I >>reset it and drove it to work. That afternoon it was 60 minutes >>off again. > > >Hey Tom! do you work in another time zone? That would produce the same >effect!! > Actually, I am one county away from working in another time zone. >I am also on the lookout for a good set of matching gauges. I am waiting to >see what I can find at Americade before I order a set of VDO's, just in >case. I was going to wire my Voltmeter a little bit differently. I >thought I would wire it into the switched fuse box, and then I would run an >additional wire to the live fuse box, and put a momentary switch on that >circuit that matches the look and feel of my 4 way hazard switch and garage >door openner switch. That way, if I wanted to see the volts right then >and there, even when the bike was not running, I could just push the >momentary switch. Hey, now that's a good idea! What species did you have to assimilate to gain that knowledge!! ;-> I guess I could do the same and match my gdo switch. BTW, is your gdo switch working again or did it truly get hosed... >I'll let you know if I find any interesting gauges at Americade! Yes, please do, I'm still waiting for my VDO catalog to arrive. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id A}I09005; Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:20:08 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: METZLER MARATHON TIRES From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:20:08 EDT Love 'em! Just bot my 3rd set, which I will not put on till we get back from Honda Hoot next month (a 5,000 mile run). Cost for Front, Rear and UPS about $253, up about $20 over last year, from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse). Changed out first set last year before dead as I was headed toward some really really twisty mtn. roads in New Mexico and didn't want to take any chances. Holding old tires for emergency; Arizona does not allow dealers to plug M/C tires. I expect to get about 16,000 miles or so on this 2nd set. They really hug the road and take the mtn. curves without complaint. Ann Mon. 6.1.98 21:20 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:48:48 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: tires Hi, Gordon: The only other choice in the correct size is the Metzeler ML2. I've used them in the past on my '89, and they are a fine tire, provided that you keep them up to the recommended pressures, which are higher than those recommended for the Dunlops. However, I don't see what all the bad mouthing of the K555s is about. I put a K555 on the rear of my '89 while I was out in Texas in March (I needed a tire immediately, and that was what was available). I was a little concerned about it, given all that I'd read on the list, but it seems to be just fine. I really can't tell any difference in the handling between the K555 and the K177. Both stick very well up to peg-scraping lean angles, both offer rock steady straight-line performance, and both work about the same in the wet. In short, if you have to "settle" for K555s, I wouldn't worry about it at all. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "HPCE Gerard" To: "Franz Verheij" , "Jos Kurvers" , "Michael Sennewald" , "PC800 maillist" , "Piet Lagemaat" , "Sabine" Subject: PC800: Never seen a sidecar on PC800? This is your change... Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:57:55 +0200 Never seen a sidecar on PC800? This is your change. Point your browsers to: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/pcsidecar.htm Thanks to Bud Miedema. Pacific Coast Europe Gerard Diepeveen, email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:29:16 EDT To: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Looks like Steve in Ruston, La and I are in the same boat. I'm still in break-in with 425 mi. I get exactly 36 mpg in town. (200# w/70# kiddo, stock shield, conservative riding style.) Lot of other folks seem to be getting noticeably better town mileage. Hmmm, maybe I'll sync the carbs and see what happens. I know our humidity down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but that really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? Anybody from the NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? Patrick in La. '97 Thumper Rabbit -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:57:51 EDT To: sapiper@yahoo.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ettiquette and the law Scot, The "La Nina summer" IS DOWN HERE in the South!!! Been 98 - 102 for two weeks!! In MAY!! Can't wait for August. Nine weeks with less than 1 inch of rain. Unbelievable. Worst spring heat / dryness since 1886. Come on down! :-) Patrick in La. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA04821; Tue, 02 Jun 1998 07:29:36 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: PLeray@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Really terrible gas mileage Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:31:21 -0700 I live in the Pacific North Wet (tm), but even though it seems to constantly rain, the humidity is quite low. When the humidity gets up to 60%, the (native) Pacific Northeasterners complain a lot about the humidity. Todd Vierheller Seattle, WA '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" > -----Original Message----- > From: PLeray@aol.com [SMTP:PLeray@aol.com] > > I know our humidity > down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but > that > really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? Anybody > from the > NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA04831; Tue, 02 Jun 1998 07:31:32 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com, PLeray@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Really terrible gas mileage Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:33:17 -0700 Note: should say "Pacific Northwesterners"; the spell checker got away from me. :-( > -----Original Message----- > From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com > [SMTP:todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 07:31 > To: PLeray@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: Really terrible gas mileage > > I live in the Pacific North Wet (tm), but even though it seems to > constantly rain, the humidity is quite low. When the humidity gets > up > to 60%, the (native) Pacific Northeasterners complain a lot about the > humidity. > > Todd Vierheller > Seattle, WA > '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PLeray@aol.com [SMTP:PLeray@aol.com] > > > > I know our humidity > > down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but > > that > > really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? > Anybody > > from the > > NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 09:08:32 -0700 From: Bob Anundson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terrible gas mileage PLeray@aol.com wrote: > Lot of other folks seem to be getting noticeably better town > mileage. > Hmmm, maybe I'll sync the carbs and see what happens. I know our > humidity > down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but > that > really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? Anybody > from the > NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? It rained a whole on Saturday when I got some of my poor mileage. The one thing I'm going to investigate is whether the thermostat is not calibrated properly. The engine runs a little on the cold side although in the range of the white stripe. I checked to see if I could buy a new diaphram for the petcock and they only sell the whole thing for $132. I think I will try and figure out a test before replacing it. Regards, Bob > > Patrick in La. > '97 Thumper Rabbit > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bob Anundson 8768 SW Iroquois Dr. Tualatin, OR 97062 503 692 2841 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 2 Jun 1998 19:45:16 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "doris" Cc: "Paul Shack." , "Pc List" , "Steve Hards" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: missed file first part of story Date: Wed, 03 Jun 98 05:38:59 PDT COSTA RICA CAPERS On the trip, so far, I had been gathering quite a few comments on Costa Rica from other travellers. For those that had been there, two things seemed to have left an indelible impression. First, they all described it as a beautiful country. And every one of them told me that the roads were HORRIBLE! What a portend for a street motorcycle rider! I had also definitely formed the opinion that it was much more of a mainstream traveller destination. For some reason the computer screwed up..hope you can add this to the beginning.... Ron Grant in Brisbane, Australia! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:58:21 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Hi, Patrick: Humid air is less dense than dry air at the same temperature. That should make for some effect on mileage, because you have to use more revs to make the same horsepower. I don't think it would be more than a few percent variation for any given altitude and temperature combination; however, it might be more than that. I remember worrying about such things when calculating takeoff performance in airplanes with reciprocating engines, but I don't remember the magnitude of the variation. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 2 Jun 1998 20:29:18 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:59:52 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Never seen a sidecar on PC800? This is your change... WOW is that ever cool! Looks really great. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:23:16 -0500 To: pilewis1@concentric.net From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digital Voltmeter Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <357286B9.E2FAAF2B@concentric.net> <19980601100508.05885@cisco.com> <3573051D.2DA57F32@concentric.net> <19980601155632.61963@cisco.com> >Dave Bartlett wrote: > >> The combination voltmeter/clock from JC Whitney does keep time.... at >> least that is the one I bought, and the one I assume everyone else >> bought also. >I guess I ordered a different one. The one I got is a fairly large red LED; I guess >about the size of the VDO. But it was more expensive, about $34.95. It seems to be >very accurate, but it does not include a clock. I'll check out my catalog for the >other types you mentioned. Of course, it they don't keep time very >well....................... :( Phil, Don't know if you saw my post about the 12volt JC Whitney clock/voltmeter but I can definitely confirm what Dave said. I am on my second JC clock/voltmeter for my PC. The first one worked fine for a few weeks and then the backlight went out. The second one works ok except that the time loses an hour a day sometimes and sometimes is within seconds of my wristwatch for 4 days. One time I happened to be watching the clock and the seconds display literally stopped for 10-15 seconds. Needless to say, I'm not happy with my choice. The thing is great when it works but I'm not gonna keep returning these things every other week. I have ordered a VDO catalog and plan on buying a separate clock and voltmeter. I wish the catalog would get here, it's been over a week since the VDO lady said she would mail it... Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:33:44 -0500 To: Pat McNew From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: Lets Synchronize Our Watches Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 07:10 PM 6/1/98 -0400, you wrote: >Fellow Coasters: > >Just a friendly request. My Email sort messages in date sent order. I >belive that date and time are from the sending PC. Many times I read >replies to messages that I haven't read the original yet, only to find >them further down my list. You PC may not adjust for daylight savings >time if you didn't set your time zone correctly or your clock may just >be off. Even worse, your clock battery on your mother board may need >replacing. Pat, Sure, no problem. I have two PCs at home and one in the garage (sorry that's the black/silver one with 2 wheels) linked together with 10base-T. One computer synchs it's clock with an atomic clock on the Net and the other PC synchs itself with the PC that uses the atomic clock. Is that accurate enough for you? :-) Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Jim Randall cc: "'PC800 List'" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: FW: PC800: A Year In The Life... of "Wed, 27 May 1998 21:31:23 EDT." <01BD89BF.98906280@pm3-11.tricon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:02:39 -0500 Jim Randall writes: > Tim Macy asked, "After reading thru 700 messages, doesn't anyone > ride any more?" Only 700 messages? I recently joined this list. Downloaded the 1998 archives last night. Just now folded them into exmh for sorting. About 2650 messages. You know what? I wouldn't mind at all if the list server would take "PC800:" out of the subject field. I find it very easy to filter on the "Return-path: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu" header. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:35:40 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: Trip supplies I guess a large thank you is in order to all those who recently suggested silk, boxer shorts for trips...after all that was said, just had to try them, bought a pair today, not silk, but satin, and wooooooo, sure have that "special" feeling now... Thank u one and all :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:26:05 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 16:29:37 Mountain Daylight Time From: NATHAN "FINGERTAPS" SANDERS To: pc800 Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem X-Mail-Agent: An Internet Client 1.0 I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get the tingles like I used to get long, long ago on old 450cc scrambler . I traded a magna in on this bike and never had the thing occur with that bike. Its very irratating , kinda feels like the hand is going to sleep a few fingers at a time. the left hand has absolutely no sensation like this. It has happened in warm weather so its not the cold, and happens with a glove on or off. Does anybody have a suggestion for this as I want to start doing some longer runs and dont need a sleepy and to contend with. Other than than I really am glad I chose this bike.. have had a lot of compliments. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 197 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:40:12 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Jackets -- Part 2 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:40:02 -0400 Importance: Normal 'Coast'ers, After many phone calls and shopping excursions, I've found a jacket that appeals to me. It's a DuraTRAK jacket. Has the removable soft armor and a removable Thinsulate liner. Also has a velcro belt around the midsection. It's gonna cost 240 greenbacks. Has anyone has any experience or current/previous ownership with this particular garment? I would sure appreciate any opinions anyone might have of this jacket. Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cycleruss@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:25:38 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: pc800 wanted Hello everyone, I do not presently own a PC, but am interested in locating one. I would like to trade my 1995 Muz Skorpion Tour, for a 1994 PC. I live in Fla. but if any of you know of someone that might be interested, let me know. Please e-mail me at Cycleruss@aol.com Thanks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Evans" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:29:46 PDT Nathan - I have found that sometimes the clothing worn on the upper body can exacerbate the tingle problem. Specifically, clothing that is to tight in the armpits, elbows, or inner wrist. Pressure on these points seems to be able to produce tingles, even a 'dead' hand. I especially notice this during my winter commute. But even in summer, if i let the windflap under my wrist zipper get folded under, i will get tingles. Just something to explore.. good luck, - kr >Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 16:29:37 Mountain Daylight Time >From: NATHAN "FINGERTAPS" SANDERS >To: pc800 >Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem > >I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go >for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get the >tingles like I used to get long, long ago on old 450cc scrambler . I traded >a magna in on this bike and never had the thing occur with that bike. Its very >irratating , kinda feels like the hand is going to sleep a few fingers at a time. >the left hand has absolutely no sensation like this. It has happened in warm >weather so its not the cold, and happens with a glove on or off. Does anybody >have a suggestion for this as I want to start doing some longer runs and >dont need a sleepy and to contend with. Other than than I really am glad >I chose this bike.. have had a lot of compliments. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:04:45 EDT To: NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Nathan: Have you tried a throttle lock like a VistaCruise so you don't have to grip as hard? Doubt if the sensation you are feeling is bike-caused. Does that hand go to sleep/tingle under other circumstances? How old are you and what kind of work do you do? Do you use that hand often in your work, re: repetitive stress-causing labor? I have worked in and know alot about hand dysfunctions/rehabilitation. If the problem persists, I'd get that right upper extremity checked out. Could be early signs of carpal tunnel syndrome or a condition referred to as shoulder-hand syndrome. Let me know after you do some more differential process of elimination. I could make some recommendations to you as to what to do/who to see. Gary A. Wade, M.Ed., OTR galveston island, texas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'GaryWOTR@aol.com'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: tires Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:45:35 -0400 Ken's Cycle Center 5510 Kingsport Highway Gray, TN. 423-477-8596 ordered and received a K177 rear (140/80x15) for me last week. $105 plus tax. I didn't ask about the front since I already have one "stockpiled" Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR@aol.com [SMTP:GaryWOTR@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 11:24 PM To: gfrank@ibm.net; owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: tires gfrank@ibm.net wrote: "Have not been able to locate Dunlop K177's anywhere. I currently have about 9,000 miles on my current set and don't want to put on K555's. Has anyone had any luck with a set of tires that they would recommend? I'm taking the ERC this week - hope I don't have a problem. Thanks. Gordon Frank" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gordon et. al.: I just recently put on my 2nd set of Metzler ML2 Marathon tires. First set did very well for 12,500 miles; still had workable, safe tread on the rear--probably good for another 1,000+ miles--but decided to trade both front and back at the same time. Front was worn down more, especially on the left-half side. Was very pleased with the performance of the Metzlers the first go-around. So, now past 200 miles on the 2nd set. Pricier than Dunlops but worth the investment, I think. Paid about $240 for the set. Keep them inflated to the recommended 49 psi and they provide excellent traction in all conditions and comfortable, smooth ride. Gary A. Wade Galveston Island, Texas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AJL09005; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 00:09:59 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: HAND TINGLE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 00:09:59 EDT SUGGEST ADDING A WRISTREST: Besides my Vista Cruise Throttle Lock (which I use approx. 25% of time during l-o-n-g rides), I have a WRIST-REST that looks like an inverted shoehorn that presses around the grip and allows you to hold the throttle open with the palm of your hand resting on this shoehorn-like apparatus while your fingers can be exercised in the air since they are not required to keep throttle open. Side Note: I put smaller foam grips on for personal comfort. Therefore, the plastic wristrest had to heated and bent to stay on my smaller grips. I took it to my friendly optometrist who put it in hot sand and curved it just right to prevent breaking or stressing the plastic. This item cost about $4-$6; there is a shiny metal model as well for about $17 ... all plus tax, of course. Ann Tue. 6.2.98 20:45 MST It has made ALL the difference in the world to me. Altho I didn't have the sleepy-hand syndrome, I did get finger joint fatigue. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: FW: A Year In The Life... From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 02 Jun 1998 23:36:29 -0500 Lines: 13 >>>>> "DK" == David Kelly writes: DK> You know what? I wouldn't mind at all if the list server would take DK> "PC800:" out of the subject field. I find it very easy to filter on the DK> "Return-path: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu" header. The users wanted it; the users get it. I hate the annoying subject tags because I have good mail filtering software, but most users on this list don't so I leave them in. Fortunately, the advanced mail filtering software I have is intelligent enough to take the tags out, too, so I never see them. Perhaps your software could do this as well. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GWQ00436; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:54:02 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PLeray@aol.com Cc: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:48:27 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage From: miketwh@juno.com (Mike T Whited) Let your PC break in a little, all your engine parts are a little "snug". As far a high humidity, it should improve your performance a little. During the war (WW II) some aircraft were fitted with a water injection system to help boost power. I had an uncle in the ' 70's that built a system for his 63 Lincoln so he could run the lower octane gas and reduce pre-ignition. On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:29:16 EDT PLeray@aol.com writes: > > Looks like Steve in Ruston, La and I are in the same boat. I'm >still in >break-in with 425 mi. I get exactly 36 mpg in town. (200# w/70# >kiddo, >stock shield, conservative riding style.) > > Lot of other folks seem to be getting noticeably better town >mileage. >Hmmm, maybe I'll sync the carbs and see what happens. I know our >humidity >down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but >that >really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? Anybody >from the >NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? > > Patrick in La. > '97 Thumper Rabbit >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 04:18:51 -0700 From: David Ludington To: Lud96@netdirect.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, donaldsimon@worldnet.att.net, faughnd@emh1.gordon.army.mil, danderson@netdirect.net, jupearl@aol.com, ljhernly@netdirect.net, lfaughnd@gw.bsu.edu, Llfaughnde@aol.com, Candoli@iquest.net, j.jwhite@worldnet.att.net, jenna@seemac.com, drlst15@pitt.edu, chammer@aol.com Subject: PC800: GOOD MORNING WORLD....BARB IS 50 50 50 50!!!!!!!!!!!! YES......TODAY IS BARBARAS' 50th. BIRTHDAY....SHE DON'T LOOK IT, BUT ITS TRUE......AIN'T THIS INTERNET GREAT!!!!!!....I AM SURE THERE WILL MORE TO COME!!!!!!!.....I LOVE YOU BARB.....HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY....HA:)...HA:)....HA:)....HA:)....HA:)....HA:)....(MIGHT WANT TO KEP YOUR SCHOOL ROOM DOOR LOCKED)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):):):) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" To: "'NATHAN \"FINGERTAPS\" SANDERS'" , pc800 Subject: RE: PC800: Throttle hand problem Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:56:11 -0400 I have the same problem! When I first started riding bikes, I had a Kawasaki EX500 Ninja ( which was also a v-twin) and it happened a lot. I changed over to a thick foam grip and it all but disappeared. I ordered a set of foam grips last night for my PC!!!! Thank You, g ____ GE Capital/ABG Bruce Bednarski Risk Leadership Program PH: 770-522-5045,8*590-5045 FX: 770-353-2444 Email: BRUCE.BEDNARSKI@GECAPITAL.COM -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NATHAN "FINGERTAPS" SANDERS [SMTP:NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 12:30 PM To: pc800 Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get the tingles like I used to get long, long ago on old 450cc scrambler . I traded a magna in on this bike and never had the thing occur with that bike. Its very irratating , kinda feels like the hand is going to sleep a few fingers at a time. the left hand has absolutely no sensation like this. It has happened in warm weather so its not the cold, and happens with a glove on or off. Does anybody have a suggestion for this as I want to start doing some longer runs and dont need a sleepy and to contend with. Other than than I really am glad I chose this bike.. have had a lot of compliments. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Rottier Donovan Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem To: pc800 , NATHAN FINGERTAPS SANDERS Nathan, Unfortunately, all I can add is a "me too". I thought it was also connected to the slight "carpal tunnel" type problems I've been having, too (I snap my wrist every few minutes - quite annoying). Anyway, I installed a throttle lock (just the cheapo variety), and that helps a little on longer trips when I can maintain a constant speed. But for day to day around town, that's not as practical. It's annoying and verges on painful and dangerous. Let me know if you hear of a good solution... Amy '89 PC800 PS - I did not have this problem on my '83 Shadow 500. ---NATHAN FINGERTAPS SANDERS wrote: > > I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go > for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get the > tingles like I used to get long, long ago on old 450cc scrambler . I traded > a magna in on this bike and never had the thing occur with that bike. Its very > irratating , kinda feels like the hand is going to sleep a few fingers at a time. > the left hand has absolutely no sensation like this. It has happened in warm > weather so its not the cold, and happens with a glove on or off. Does anybody > have a suggestion for this as I want to start doing some longer runs and > dont need a sleepy and to contend with. Other than than I really am glad > I chose this bike.. have had a lot of compliments. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > == ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amy Elizabeth Rottier Donovan Platypus69@yahoo.com aka Platypus How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Two. One to hold the giraffe and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly colored machine tools. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:39:44 +0200 Hi Mike, "water injection" will not give your PC800 better performance, in fact it's the opposite. Some aircraft were fitted with water injection to improve take off performance. These aircraft had engines that were temperature-limited. On take-off the mixture was richer purely to cool the cilinder on the inside. Without this extra fuel the cilinder-head temperature would rise over it's maximum value (usually around 260 C). This applies specially to turbo-engines. By replacing this extra fuel with water not only the mixture was leaned towards "best power" (performance increase 6-8%) but also the manifold air pressure could be increased because of the good anti-detonation quality of water (another increase of 6-8%). I got all this info from my dutch ATPL theory book about reciprocating engines. It also states that water injection increased T.O.performance of the P&W Double Wasp CA18 from 2100 hp to 2400 hp. So if you fit a turbo to your 800cc twin, and a mixture lever and want to run that engine continuously on full power for more than 3 minutes or so, then water injection might come in handy to get over those high treetops at the end of you driveway. If you reset the default factory mixture setting on your PC800, the engine should now be leaned for "best power". High humidity will replace air with water, enriching your mixture and giving you less power and therefore more fuel burn to keep the same speed (simular to what JT said). Happy landings, Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@ThePentagon.com > As far a high humidity, it should improve your performance a little. > During the war (WW II) some aircraft were fitted with a water injection > system to help boost power. I had an uncle in the ' 70's that built a > system for his 63 Lincoln so he could run the lower octane gas and reduce > pre-ignition. > On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:29:16 EDT PLeray@aol.com writes: > > > > Looks like Steve in Ruston, La and I are in the same boat. I'm > >still in > >break-in with 425 mi. I get exactly 36 mpg in town. (200# w/70# > >kiddo, > >stock shield, conservative riding style.) > > > > Lot of other folks seem to be getting noticeably better town > >mileage. > >Hmmm, maybe I'll sync the carbs and see what happens. I know our > >humidity > >down here is pretty terrible (85 - 95% most times this spring), but > >that > >really shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, or does it? Anybody > >from the > >NorthWest dampness have an opinion as to humidity and mileage? > > > > Patrick in La. > > '97 Thumper Rabbit > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > >a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:49:26 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage Hi, All: In a message dated 98-06-03 06:55:15 EDT, Mike writes: << As far a high humidity, it should improve your performance a little. During the war (WW II) some aircraft were fitted with a water injection system to help boost power. I had an uncle in the ' 70's that built a system for his 63 Lincoln so he could run the lower octane gas and reduce pre-ignition. >> Sorry, Mike, that I must disagree, but as I said in an earlier post, humidity does not improve performance, at least not for a normally aspirated engine running a proper grade of fuel. For a given temperature, the dryer the air, the greater the density. The denser the air, the more free oxygen molecules are in a given volume, and it's the oxygen combining with the fuel that provides the energy (heat). Humidity (i.e., water molecules) decreases the density of the air, reducing the number of free oxygen molecules available and, thus, the energy that is released for a given volume of fuel/air mix. The system you describe on the old Lincoln worked because it was able to prevent detonation with the lower grade fuel than the engine required. However, it probably resulted in worse gas mileage and may not have saved any money in the long run. The water-injection systems on aircraft (and on some supercharged cars and motorcycles) actually decrease performance (that is, energy release) by slowing down the ignition flame front and cooling the charge. It "improved" performance only in the sense that it prevented detonation in the highly supercharged engines (60+ inches of boost); that is, it kept the engines from destroying themselves at full take-off power, which is the only time that it was used. On the birds that I flew, there was a 5-minute limit at full power with the water (actually a water-alcohol mixture) on. Ordinarily, we only ran them at that power for at most a minute. If I remember correctly, we had about 14 minutes of ADI (anti-detonation injection) fluid on board, and that was plenty for all day even with lots of takeoffs. The ADI system had the effect of extending the octane rating of the fuel by about 30 points. This is indicated by the dual octane ratings for aviation gas (100/130, 115/145, etc.). The first number is the rating without ADI; the second, with ADI. Just as premium car gas (93 octane) in the absence of detonation doesn't produce more power than regular gas (87 octane), these fuels don't produce more power by being more energetic. They simply withstand higher cylinder pressures and temperatures without exploding. Regards, J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:16:45 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Hi, All: Just a thought on this thread. You might want to check out the alignment on the bike. If it's not tracking straight, you could be having to hold a little steering pressure. If you've got a throttle lock (or use Rocky's rubber-band trick), see how the bike tracks with your hands off the grips. Do this at highway speed to avoid the low-speed wobble common on most bikes these days, including the PC. If it tracks to the left, this could be one source of the problem. There isn't much you can do about the alignment at the rear; so, if there is a problem, all you can do is make sure the front end isn't twisted in the triple clamps. If the alignment is OK, then you're going to have to work at not putting weight on your hands/wrists/shoulders. Sit as far forward as you can, and use your abdominal and back muscles to support your upper body. Sounds like most of those having trouble came from a "cruiser" background and haven't developed the muscle tone needed to ride comfortably with a "standard" riding posture. Once you "get in shape," the standard posture is much better for your long- term health and overall comfort level. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:30:33 EDT To: GaryWOTR@aol.com, NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Nathan, As another medical-type (RN), I'll second what Gary had to say about checking out yer circulation to that right lower arm. Sometimes just a slight angle in a joint can make a difference. Definitely get a Vista-Cruise throttle lock. It's so easy to use you can flip it on and off frequently and flex/rotate/move the R hand now and then. Even in town. Patrick in La. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DJewsb@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:10:57 EDT To: NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem I have the same problem. I thought it was just me because I had the same problem on a 96 Virago that I traded for my 97 PC., and on my bicycle. To solve the problem for me I installed a Throttlemeister to give my hand a rest. Works for me. Doug Jewsbury Berthoud, CO 97 PC 1500 mi. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:15:51 EDT To: di9731@vci.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trip supplies In a message dated 6/2/98 6:33:52 PM Central Daylight Time, di9731@vci.net writes: << I guess a large thank you is in order to all those who recently suggested silk, boxer shorts for trips...after all that was said, just had to try them, bought a pair today, not silk, but satin, and wooooooo, sure have that "special" feeling now... Thank u one and all :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider >> Ummmm, Doug, really more than we needed to know.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Prather To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Throttle hand problem Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:20:35 -0800 Hi all, I have a thought here, too. Check to see how tightly you are gripping the throttle. When I gripped mine too tightly, I got the tingling sensation also. You really only need a little clinching force in your hand to hold on. When I relaxed more, the tingling went away. Dave >---------- >From: PLeray@aol.com[SMTP:PLeray@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 7:30 AM >To: GaryWOTR@aol.com; NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net; owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu; >pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem > > > Nathan, > > As another medical-type (RN), I'll second what Gary had to say about >checking out yer circulation to that right lower arm. Sometimes just a >slight >angle in a joint can make a difference. > > Definitely get a Vista-Cruise throttle lock. It's so easy to use you >can >flip it on and off frequently and flex/rotate/move the R hand now and then. >Even in town. > > Patrick in La. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 09:30:38 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) On Tue, Jun 2, 1998, 4:29:37 PM GMT NATHAN FINGERTAPS SANDERS wrote: >I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go >for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get >the >tingles Things to try: Vibration? Check the synchronization of the carbs. Often dealers are lazy about the synch on the setup and after the break-in period it seems to change. The PC shouldn't be making any vibration at highway speeds. Pressure? Try softer grips. Many folks like the big foam grips, but I prefer textured rubber (stays cleaner and lasts longer). And if all else fails, put a throttle-lock on so that you can periodically rest your throttle hand. Even a few moments of rest every 15-20 minutes makes a big difference. Greg Torok '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. envelope-from (jrandall@kpt1.tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: James R Randall To: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" cc: "'NATHAN \"FINGERTAPS\" SANDERS'" , pc800 Subject: RE: PC800: Throttle hand problem I think part of the problem here is the strong throttle return springs on the PC. I sense NO vibratration at engine speeds over 3K but fighting the springs can be very fatiguing to the right wrist. A throttle lock (I used the VistaCruise) helps tremendously. On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS) wrote: > I have the same problem! When I first started riding bikes, I had a > Kawasaki EX500 Ninja > ( which was also a v-twin) and it happened a lot. I changed over to a thick > foam grip and it all but disappeared. I ordered a set of foam grips last > night for my PC!!!! > Thank You, > g ____ GE Capital/ABG > Bruce Bednarski > Risk Leadership Program > PH: 770-522-5045,8*590-5045 > FX: 770-353-2444 > Email: BRUCE.BEDNARSKI@GECAPITAL.COM > > -----Original Message----- > From: NATHAN "FINGERTAPS" SANDERS [SMTP:NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 12:30 PM > To: pc800 > Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem > > I have been having an unexpected problem with my new (97) pc. When I go > for more than 15 or 20 minutes on it my right (throttle) hand starts to get > the > tingles like I used to get long, long ago on old 450cc scrambler . I traded > > a magna in on this bike and never had the thing occur with that bike. Its > very > irratating , kinda feels like the hand is going to sleep a few fingers at a > time. > the left hand has absolutely no sensation like this. It has happened in > warm > weather so its not the cold, and happens with a glove on or off. Does > anybody > have a suggestion for this as I want to start doing some longer runs and > dont need a sleepy and to contend with. Other than than I really am glad > I chose this bike.. have had a lot of compliments. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Really terribel gas mileage From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 10:26:34 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) On Wed, Jun 3, 1998, 1:39:44 PM GMT Emile Nossin wrote: >So if you fit a turbo to your 800cc twin, and a mixture lever and want >to run that engine continuously on full power for more than 3 minutes or >so, then water injection might come in handy to get over those high >treetops at the end of you driveway. Sounds good to me, does JC Whitney carry the kit ;-> Greg Torok '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Rottier Donovan Subject: RE: PC800: Throttle hand problem To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dprather@clarify.com Yes, that's another thing. I replaced the stock grips with foam ones, because I wanted a larger diameter grip (just so I *wouldn't* grip so hard). Instead, I find I have to grip more than I would ordinarily since the foam against the leather has less friction than the stock rubber against leather. That's another factor. Amy ---David Prather wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a thought here, too. Check to see how tightly you are gripping > the throttle. When I gripped mine too tightly, I got the tingling > sensation also. You really only need a little clinching force in your > hand to hold on. When I relaxed more, the tingling went away. > > Dave > > >---------- > >From: PLeray@aol.com[SMTP:PLeray@aol.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 7:30 AM > >To: GaryWOTR@aol.com; NATHAN.SANDERS@gte.net; owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu; > >pc800@hpc.uh.edu > >Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem > > > > > > Nathan, > > > > As another medical-type (RN), I'll second what Gary had to say about > >checking out yer circulation to that right lower arm. Sometimes just a > >slight > >angle in a joint can make a difference. > > > > Definitely get a Vista-Cruise throttle lock. It's so easy to use you > >can > >flip it on and off frequently and flex/rotate/move the R hand now and then. > >Even in town. > > > > Patrick in La. > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > == ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amy Elizabeth Rottier Donovan Platypus69@yahoo.com aka Platypus How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Two. One to hold the giraffe and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly colored machine tools. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:28:54 -0800 by pop1.state.ak.us (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:30:22 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:25 -0900 From: "Jo Ruby" To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem I recall a while back there was a posting about someone having troubles because the arm reach was a little too long to the handlebars...they somehow were able to bring back the handlebars. That's my main problem...my arms are about an inch or so too short and I have a tendency to lean forward and put too much pressure on my hands. I have dropped the handlebars down as far as possible. Now, if there was a way to put some risers on the handlebars... Any ideas out there? Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska 94 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:43:26 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem In a message dated 6/3/98 1:44:51 PM Central Daylight Time, platypus69@yahoo.com writes: << I replaced the stock grips with foam ones, because I wanted a larger diameter grip (just so I *wouldn't* grip so hard). Instead, I find I have to grip more than I would ordinarily since the foam against the leather has less friction than the stock rubber against leather. That's another factor. Amy >> I agree - we put the larger foam grips on the '89 and I had some tingle, with the stock grips on the '90 I have better friction and less problem. Still the addition of a throttle lock or Throttlemeister on longer trips has been great! Lynda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:57:31 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem In a message dated 6/3/98 2:31:31 PM Central Daylight Time, Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us writes: << Now, if there was a way to put some risers on the handlebars... Any ideas out there? >> Yes, I had the same problem on the '89 where the more dense foam that a previous owner had added to the seat made me sit higher. We bought an extra pair of the "handlebar upper holders" (see pg. 12-4 in your service manual if you have one) and longer bolts. We turned the extra holders upside down, placed them under the handlebar and reassembled the bike. The only other necessary adjustment for me was to increase the diameter of the hole in the plastic over the ignition in order to get the key head through. It is a little awkward to turn the key when it is lower than the plastic cover, but worth it for the increased comfort level. Lynda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gaffneydp@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:01:48 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Clearview Windshield I attended the trade show at Americade yesterday and took a look at the Clearview windshield made for the PC800. According to the Sport Touring Accessories rep, it is about two inches wider than the stock Honda windshield and the angle of attack is such that the top of the windshield will be about three inches back from where the stock windshield is. The sample I saw had no optical distortion in it. The Clearview is made out of Lucite as opposed to Lexan (Honda). I believe Lucite is "softer" than Lexan. It is available in different lengths and tints. The price is $130 (shipping included - six dollars for tinting). I ordered one and was told that I should have it in two weeks. I would appreciate seeing comments, etc. from anyone else who has seen or purchased one of these windshields. Thanks, Dennis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) by pop1.state.ak.us (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:08:27 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 13:02 -0900 From: "Jo Ruby" To: "LRaeMiller@aol.com" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem THANK YOU! THANK YOU! That will definitely be my next modification... I will go home tonight and check out my manual. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem Author: LRaeMiller@aol.com Date: 6/3/98 3:57 PM In a message dated 6/3/98 2:31:31 PM Central Daylight Time, Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us writes: << Now, if there was a way to put some risers on the handlebars... Any ideas out there? >> Yes, I had the same problem on the '89 where the more dense foam that a previous owner had added to the seat made me sit higher. We bought an extra pair of the "handlebar upper holders" (see pg. 12-4 in your service manual if you have one) and longer bolts. We turned the extra holders upside down, placed them under the handlebar and reassembled the bike. The only other necessary adjustment for me was to increase the diameter of the hole in the plastic over the ignition in order to get the key head through. It is a little awkward to turn the key when it is lower than the plastic cover, but worth it for the increased comfort level. Lynda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ------------------------- Original message header: >MAIL FROM: >RCPT TO: >DATA Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:59:42 -0800 uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAG19567; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:59:20 -0500 (CDT ) , 03 Jun 1998 14:58:42 -0500 (CDT) h.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19554 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 19 98 14:58:34 -0500 (CDT) >From: LRaeMiller@aol.com 99 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:57:31 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:57:31 EDT >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem ------------------------- End of message header. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 3212400 ; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:28:28 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:29:12 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: LRaeMiller@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Me too! I had larger foam grips and ended up going back to stock grips because of the tingling. It's still there, but not as bad. I'm only 32, so probably not an age factor. Feels like a tension issue on top of my thumb and the inside of my wrist. Both wrists, which discounts the high carb spring idea. Only thing I can figure is I do a fair amount of bicycling (mt. bike and road bike), and have been doing a lot of manual labor lately (sawing wood and digging septic lines - don't ask) so the increased activity probably effects my wrists. I might try an ice pack to see if it helps. So far not so bad, but annoying. BTW, I have a Vista throttle lock. I use it when I can, but once the tingling has started, it doesn't go away until after I get off the bike. Scot '89 PC800 --------- LRaeMiller@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/3/98 1:44:51 PM Central Daylight Time, > platypus69@yahoo.com writes: > > << I replaced the stock grips with foam ones, because I wanted a larger > diameter grip (just so I *wouldn't* grip so hard). Instead, I find I > have to grip more than I would ordinarily since the foam against the > leather has less friction than the stock rubber against leather. > That's another factor. > > Amy >> > > I agree - we put the larger foam grips on the '89 and I had some tingle, with > the stock grips on the '90 I have better friction and less problem. Still the > addition of a throttle lock or Throttlemeister on longer trips has been > great! > > Lynda > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:22:21 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: Greetings Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:24:27 -0700 Importance: Normal < Yep JT, still have 'em both. The PC is the sensible do-all bike that I used for commuting (when I had a commute anyway), bad weather, tour with camping gear (before the ST), and just plain haul everything around town (still do). The VFR is purly grins. Last couple of girlfriends all insisted it was their favorite bike and it gets the most favorable comments from onlookers. The lady and I did an overnighter this weekend over the North Cascades hwy and had a ball - about 600 miles roundtrip. The PC is awaiting my return to being sensible again. I tuned her up, polished and changed the fluids a few weeks ago. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life/HRCA/HSTA/STOC 1999 Iron Butt competitor '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 18:19:32 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Gaffneydp@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield You may be the first on the list to have one. Let us know what you think when you get it. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:03:39 -0700 From: Gail Anundson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Can anyone tell where to buy a VistaCruise? Regards Bob Anundson GaryWOTR@aol.com wrote: > Nathan: > Have you tried a throttle lock like a VistaCruise so you don't > have to grip > as hard? Doubt if the sensation you are feeling is bike-caused. Does > that hand > go to sleep/tingle under other circumstances? How old are you and what > kind of > work do you do? Do you use that hand often in your work, re: > repetitive > stress-causing labor? I have worked in and know alot about hand > dysfunctions/rehabilitation. If the problem persists, I'd get that > right upper > extremity checked out. Could be early signs of carpal tunnel syndrome > or a > condition referred to as shoulder-hand syndrome. Let me know after you > do some > more differential process of elimination. I could make some > recommendations to > you as to what to do/who to see. > > Gary A. Wade, M.Ed., OTR > galveston island, texas > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XRF25065; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:26:24 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:27:24 -0400 Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot From: swift24@juno.com (John D Louk) So I asked where PC riders would suggest meeting at the Hoot and got a veritable vacuum in response. Sucked the fonts right out of my Commodore 64 here. So ok. I still believe the out-of-the-way-but-near-downtown bike wash parking lot at the church just down the street East of the Radisson is the place to be each day in the hopes of connecting. Looking at schedules of events, a period from, say 5 PM to 5:30 PM should be sufficient as a window of opportunity, wot? I'll be easy to spot with my incredibly gorgeous candy glory red 1990 PC 800L and matching sunburn. (SPF1000 lotion indeed!) You'll probably spot a superb white lettered "Hardly A. Davidson" courtesy of PC rider Ann Reid from Arizona on my cycle as well. Sure would like a head count of expected PC riders, too. Send direct to swift24@juno.com, or, johnl@wvpa.com As a last resort, I'm staying at the Best Western of Asheville, 501 Tunnel Road, (704)298-5562 from Tues departing Sunday AM. John Louk Carmel, IN '90 PC "Ruby" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: speerboy@juno.com by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XHB08969; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:36:03 EDT To: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Cc: LRaeMiller@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: Throttle Hand Problem Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:36:03 EDT Dear folks, What was that about using a rubber band on the throttle? Sounds like my kind of solution! Gary Smith speerboy@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:35:16 EDT To: boba@teleport.com, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: VistaCruise Bob et al: I got my VistaCruise at my Honda dealership. Was the only kind of cruise control/throttle lock they carried. If your local dealer doesn't have one, I imagine they could order it and install it for you. Costs about $25-$30; takes about 30 minutes to install one--which, at my dealership would cost about $25 in labor charges. gary a. wade galveston island, texas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 01:08:44 -0500 To: GaryWOTR@aol.com, boba@teleport.com, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: Re: PC800: Re: VistaCruise You can install it yourself in about 15 min. read the archives and go for it,,,not hard at all, unless have trouble with a grip,,,I didn't,,just takes a small screwdriver Doug At 12:35 AM 6/4/98 EDT, GaryWOTR@aol.com wrote: >Bob et al: > I got my VistaCruise at my Honda dealership. Was the only kind of cruise >control/throttle lock they carried. If your local dealer doesn't have one, I >imagine they could order it and install it for you. Costs about $25-$30; takes >about 30 minutes to install one--which, at my dealership would cost about $25 >in labor charges. > >gary a. wade >galveston island, texas >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 01:13:10 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Cartmel Subject: PC800: Findings from the Hurt Study Someone recently posted a message about an accident which was reported in a Wisconsin newspaper. An elderly man turned in front of the mc. ---------------------------- Findings from the Hurt Study 9. The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming motorcycle. http://www.seanet.com/~nickolson/hurt_sum.htm ------------------------------------------------- Tom Cartmel cartmel@cris.com "Time changes everything - everything but truth." ------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 4 Jun 1998 06:59:38 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Pc List" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Throttle hand problem.... Date: Thu, 04 Jun 98 07:19:51 PDT You guys would have a laugh to see the throttle grip stuff I brought back from thailand. Several of their "cruise controls", a paddle type thingy, but in the shape of a star or cut out emblem and silver or purple or red anodized aluminum. Far out! Also they sell "covers" for the handgrips, made from foam rubber or wet suit type material, some slide over and others held around by snaps...of course all are Violently colored...some multi like tie-dye! How coold I RESIST!!?? Ron Grant in Brisbane, Australia! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "MV Pacific Coast Netherlands" To: "PC800 e-mail group" Subject: PC800: Thanx for info/comments on Deer Whistle question Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:09:39 +0200 Hi fellow listers, Thanx to you all, sending comments on the deer whistle question. It was = very educational to me and i'm sure our member can make the right = choice. Thanx and safe riding to all of you. Silvonton Niessing MV Pacific Coast Netherlands temporary homepage: http://www.essentialhealth.net/pcn on the deer=20 whistle question. It was very educational to me and i'm sure our member = can make=20 the right choice.

 
Thanx and safe riding to all of=20 you.
 
Silvonton Niessing
MV Pacific Coast = Netherlands
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:10:22 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Hi, John: I'll be there on my '89 (PC800K). I'm not sure what my schedule is going to be, but I'll try to make it to the rendezvous point to say howdy to the PC Clan. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Findings from the Hurt Study Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 08:07:13 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: PC800: Findings from the Hurt Study >Sent: 06/04/1998 1:18 AM >From: cartmel@cris.com >To: Patkins > > >Someone recently posted a message about an accident which was reported in a >Wisconsin newspaper. An elderly man turned in front of the mc. that was me...I know this, of course, after taking the beginning and experienced MSF course...my referencing the article and the accident was the WAY in which it was covered by the Green Bay Press Gazzette....mentioned the lack of a helmet but no mention of any legal issues regarding the 86 yearl old man who violated the riders right of way. Of course, this does not help the poor rider (who's condition has been upgraded from critical to serious, I believe). I do everything I can do to keep myself safe at intersections..... have a good one, Paul > >---------------------------- >Findings from the Hurt Study > >9. The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding >straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming >motorcycle. > >http://www.seanet.com/~nickolson/hurt_sum.htm > >------------------------------------------------- >Tom Cartmel >cartmel@cris.com >"Time changes everything - everything but truth." >------------------------------------------------- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:33:02 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: High Mileage PCs Hello, all!! A longtime Beemer rider was eyeing my bike yesterday and said his next bike might be a PC. He loves the styling and he's getting to dislike BMW's attitude, recent design trends, and outrageous prices. He's interested in whether the PCs have good reliability into their old age, and what "old age" means for a PC. I told him that as far as I know the engine, powertrain and suspension are extremely reliable but that I would collect some hard numbers for him. So -- if you are a high-mileage rider -- say, over 100,000 miles / 160,000 kms, could you write me PRIVATE email (so as not to clutter the list) with your bike's year, mileage, and major maintenance items? I'll make up a nice report of the info in about 10 days time, and post it to the list. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:14:34 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fwd: PC800: Throttle hand problem --part0_896962474_boundary Hi, All: Brian asked me to post this for him, since he is temporarily unable to do it directly: << Another idea might be too much weight on one side of the bike which is forcing you to compensate by countersteering. You shouldn't be having wrist problems with the PC, it really puts zero pressure unlike many sportbikes. Make sure your wrist is basically in line with your forearm and your arm should be bent at the elbow. I think you might have a more underlying problem and the change in posture is making it show up. The PC is a super comfortable standard seating bike and doesn't put pressure on your wrist. Something may be medically wrong. Good luck, Brian Hopkins bhopkins@systest.com '96 VFR '97 PC 800 >> J.T. --part0_896962474_boundary Content-disposition: inline air06.mail.aol.com (v43.25) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 10:36:14 -0400 by relay24.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA21212 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:36:13 -0400 (EDT) with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:40:41 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:40:06 -0600 From: "Brian Hopkins" To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle hand problem Sorry, I'm having my mail forwarded and I can't post from here (although I can read it) If you think this is valuable you might throw it out to the list or the original poster) Another idea might be too much weight on one side of the bike which is forcing you to compensate by countersteering. You shouldn't be having wrist problems with the PC, it really puts zero pressure unlike many sportbikes. Make sure your wrist is basically in line with your forearm and your arm should be bent at the elbow. I think you might have a more underlying problem and the change in posture is making it show up. The PC is a super comfortable standard seating bike and doesn't put pressure on your wrist. Something may be medically wrong. Good luck, Brian Hopkins bhopkins@systest.com '96 VFR '97 PC 800 >>> 06/03 8:16 AM >>> Hi, All: Just a thought on this thread. You might want to check out the alignment on the bike. If it's not tracking straight, you could be having to hold a little steering pressure. If you've got a throttle lock (or use Rocky's rubber-band trick), see how the bike tracks with your hands off the grips. Do this at highway speed to avoid the low-speed wobble common on most bikes these days, including the PC. If it tracks to the left, this could be one source of the problem. There isn't much you can do about the alignment at the rear; so, if there is a problem, all you can do is make sure the front end isn't twisted in the triple clamps. If the alignment is OK, then you're going to have to work at not putting weight on your hands/wrists/shoulders. Sit as far forward as you can, and use your abdominal and back muscles to support your upper body. Sounds like most of those having trouble came from a "cruiser" background and haven't developed the muscle tone needed to ride comfortably with a "standard" riding posture. Once you "get in shape," the standard posture is much better for your long- term health and overall comfort level. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --part0_896962474_boundary-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OFW09005; Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:04:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: THROTTLE LOCK From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:04:01 EDT 1) Over the past 23 years, I have purchased at least four throttle locks. Most of them were about $20 plus tax and could be found at almost every M/C parts and accessories and service shop in the Phx. area. I found them easy to install, and I'm far from a mechanical wizard. To the contrary! *GRUMBLE* 2) To repeat, I also use a WRIST-REST which costs about $3-$6 for plastic and $17 for metal. Takes a load off cramped finger/hand/wrist muscles. It really supports the palm of your hand more than the wrist directly. The plastic ones I saw: Rice Honda in Rapid, SD and a Regional GoldWing event here last year. Only saw one store with the metal ones; All Cycle Sales in Tempe, AZ. Did not see them at Thunder Across The River (Laughlin, NV) in 1997 or 1998. Perhaps the Harley riders prefer to be numb ALL over. *GRIN* Ann annreid@juno.com Thu. 6.4.98 10:10 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:48:56 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Hi, Ann: In a message dated 98-06-04 14:04:10 EDT, you write: << P.S. JT What does the "K" mean after PC800? K for Kleen? JL Ditto for the "L"? L for Lucky? Does this mean I have a '89 PC800V? V for Virgin 'cause it's white? *MOAN* >> The letters after the PC800 denote the model year (K = '89, L = '90, etc.) I wish the K did mean Klean; I've got some work to do on mine before it could be called that. And I suspect that you most definitely don't have a V :). J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Coasters" From: "Johnl" Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Thu, 04 Jun 98 14:09:39 PDT FYI, I'll be off this list from Saturday, June 6th to Monday, June 15th to preclude the overflow of my inbox from the list while I'm out of town. If anyone else wishes to coordinate meeting plans in Asheville during that period, please feel free to do so. "I'll be back!" However, if you're too excited and cannot resist sending me e-mail, fill up my at-work account at (that's john lower case "L") John Louk Carmel, IN Co-perpatrator of TGPCPCY2KTP '90 PC "Ruby" & a thoroughly vacuumed Commodore 64 (Sucked the font right out of it!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Coasters" From: "Johnl" Subject: PC800: SAENG Cockpit Mounts Date: Thu, 04 Jun 98 14:22:14 PDT Has anyone on this list bought and used one of the SAENG #2510 Single flex dash mounts to carry a GPS receiver? I'm looking for something of the sort to use with my Garmin GPS III. The autobile mount Garmin sells won't fit well anywhere I'd care to try and use it. (Anatomically explicit and athletically improbable comments not invited, thank you.) I'd prefer not to puncture or glue upon "Ruby's" near-perfect skin and ruin her complexion. Top of clutch and front brake hydraulics reserves would be ok to glue to. Thnx, John Louk Carmel, IN '90 PC "Ruby" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Prather To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:31:44 -0800 Hmmm. Mine is a '96 and a PC800LT... care to decode? Dave >---------- >From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com[SMTP:JTSMCRIDER@aol.com] >Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 11:48 AM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot > >Hi, Ann: > >In a message dated 98-06-04 14:04:10 EDT, you write: > ><< P.S. JT What does the "K" mean after PC800? K for Kleen? > JL Ditto for the "L"? L for Lucky? >Does this mean I have a '89 PC800V? V for Virgin 'cause it's > white? *MOAN* >> > >The letters after the PC800 denote the model year (K = '89, L = '90, etc.) I >wish the K did mean Klean; I've got some work to do on mine before it could >be >called that. And I suspect that you most definitely don't have a V :). > >J.T. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:33:03 EDT To: patkins@mari.net, cartmel@cris.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Findings from the Hurt Study Just installed small halogen driving lights for that very reason. Sometimes I think if I could mount three-foot outriggers with flashing yellow lights I'd do it! Local newspaper just ran an article about the 10 new Kawasaki Police Specials they've received. They discussed motor-officer-ing with one of the guys, and he noted that on average they all have about 4 close calls a day!! This is on a full-fledged police painted/lighted bike!!! Scary. Patrick in La. '97 Thumper Rabbit (w/out outriggers) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Bumar" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:59:33 -0400 John, My wife and I will be there on our red '96 PC. We're camping at a campground near Chimney Rock and we plan to arrive sometime on Tuesday afternoon. We'll be at the bike wash at least one of the nights. BTW, are there any Hoot attendees bringing a guitar who likes to play with other not-so-great musicians? I just bought a "backpacker guitar" for the trip and it would be great to sit around a campfire and play with some of y'all. See you at the Hoot! Rich Bumar -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:34:57 EDT To: GuntherSki@aol.com, di9731@vci.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Trip supplies In a message dated 98-06-03 12:17:44 EDT, GuntherSki@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 6/2/98 6:33:52 PM Central Daylight Time, di9731@vci.net writes: << I guess a large thank you is in order to all those who recently suggested silk, boxer shorts for trips...after all that was said, just had to try them, bought a pair today, not silk, but satin, and wooooooo, sure have that "special" feeling now... Thank u one and all :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider >> >> Quoth Paul Simon: "The nearer your destination, the more you're slip-slidin' away." ( 'course I may just have to try that!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Small trip report & Vista Cruise question Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 02:09:11 +0200 Hey list, Last week I went on a 5-day organised motorcycle group-trip to the Vosges, a beautifull and hilly area in France near the Swiss and German border. The total group counted about 25 motorcycles, but I was able to ride in a group of 6 bikes with guys who also came alone. Other people drove the predetermined route (we all got a roadbook with route directions) with smaller groups, solo, or "two-up" solo. Our "group" consisted out of two VFR750's, a Kawa ZX6R, a Yamaha FJ750 (or so) and a BMW K1100RS. Needless to say, I wondered how my 57hp "dc-3" would stand up against these 90-100hp "fighters". Well, a few of these fighter-pilots were unhappily surprised to see the three taillights getting smaller i.o. bigger whilst conquering the most beatifull and twisty roads of Belgium, Germany, Luxemburg and France I ever saw (I'm still young, and it was my first motorcycle vacation). In these hilly and twisty cicumstances the roads were clearly pilot-limited i.o. hp-limited. I just loved the perfect handling capabilities of the PC800. A few of you guys have a VFR750 for the "fun-riding" and a PC800 for your "sensible-riding". On those made-for- motorcycles-kind-of-roads I just couldn't figure that out. Just one of the VFR's was able to run out of my sight, but only after great effort (I'll choose living over winning). Only on the way back from Nancy to Holland on the freeway did I envy a quality of the VFR's, namely a relative low fuel burn at high speed (did you know you can allmost run your tank dry in about an hour when you average 100 mph ?). I was glad to go back to my normal 75-85 mph when we split up toward home in Belgium. Another thing I also didn't like was the fatigue in my right arm after holding it in the same position for an extended period of time (I know, it's a popular item these days...). So I decided I wanted a throttle lock. I dug out all the archives, searched the net, and concluded; I want a Vista Cruise lock. Problem: I can't find this product in Holland. I found another type of throttle lock (Booster at Safe Motors), but it won't install as nicely as a Vista Cruise. I again searched the entire internet (or at least I feel that way) to see if I could maybe order it somewhere, but no joy... Any fellow Europeans out there who found a good throttle lock in Europe (Holland), or know of ways to get the Vista Cruise this way ? Or maybe you guys across the pond know a solution. Thx in advance. Salut, Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@ThePentagon.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id U[Y09005; Thu, 04 Jun 1998 20:31:51 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PLeray@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Small Lights? From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 20:31:51 EDT Extra lights? Please explain further. Where to buy, where to mount, how much and how-to? I've been very fortunate (knock on wood). I've had relatiely few close calls (so far) ... on the bike ... maybe 2! However, in a cage I have them all the time. Most people are much more courteous when I'm 2-wheeling it. And I tend to be a bit more agressive/assertive (confident?) on the bike than in a car, but I still drive VERY defensively. (I started riding 1975.) Also, I usually wear very bright (not obnoxious) colors and try to make eye contact and always eyeball drivers' wheels and hand positions for self-preservation clues. And I never just honk once; once they think you're saying "Hello, how are you?" but several intentional beeps makes them take notice. Occasionally I use a battery-operated, push button, WHISTLE from my bicycle that is VERY loud and sounds like a Policeman directing traffic. With my white bike and police helmet, I usually get noticed. However, if the cager is using a cellphone, I give him a W-I-D-E berth as I know he's on another planet. i.e. Spaced Out & not Road-Conscious. Ann PC800-BAV [JT if she can't be a Virgin, I'll sprinkle holy water and make her a Born-Again-Virgin. Any Objections? *WINK*] annreid@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:36:45 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 in Cycle World Hi, All: The July issue of Cycle World has a brief piece on the PC with the typical stuff: grudging admission that it's a good machine and the obligatory snide remarks about the plastic. Check it out. It's on p. 28. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Eyrich" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Seat Modification - The Missing Chapter Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 23:16:52 PDT Well I was motivated tonite. After being out of town for the last severl weeks I was finally able to get the Saeng edging on the bike. It looks great and the initial road test gave promising results. I'd been thinking about the seat modification mentioned a couple of months ago and decided to give it a shot. Everything went well with getting the passenger seat of the bike, removing the cover, triming the foam and re-attatching the cover. Dry fit the seat on the bike and indeed there is a little gap now between the driver and passenger seats, but didn't look too bad. Now for the fun part . . . Getting the passenger seat back on the bike. Remembering all the hints about knealing on the seat, slamming it down, etc I started on the task. After two attempts I realized that the seat needed to move farther back. Once I did that all four bolts went right in!!! Great, but wait. . . The little gap between the seats is now much larger (probably pushing 1/2 of an inch). Probably wouldn't be a functional problem but really looked. . . well. . . . Shitty!!! Since it was getting late I figured I'd worry about the gap later and went to clean-up. As I walked to my workbench I noticed the foam piece I cut of the front of the seat. Hmmmmm. . . .I wonder . . . I quickly removed the driver seat, pulled off the mounting bracket, removed the cover, and what do you know??? With a little shaping the foam piece from the front of the passenger seat aligned with the back of the driver seat. I trim it up and cut the piece in half lengthwise giving me about a 3/4" thick piece. Glue it to the back of the driver seat, re-attach the cover, and mount it on the bike. Now for the moment of truth. . . Close the trunk and . . . A PERFECT FIT!!! Nice and tight. Looks like original!!!! All I can say is "I love it when a plan comes together", whether is was planned or not!! I can't wait to give the bike an extended test this weekend. I'm sure my butt will thank me. Good riding and be safe. Greg Eyrich '94 With a custom (sort of) seat and new Saeng edging!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 5 Jun 98 7:24 PDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 98 07:28:55 -0800 From: Brent Rasmussen To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at sjca.ddc.dla.mil Subject: PC800: Help I have an 89 PC that I had a problem with this morning. Just after I started it and it was ideling, I noticed the lights were flickering and the tack was going crazy. When I tried to accellerate it did not have any power. Within a few seconds it completely shut down. When I turned the key off and then on again, nothing works, absolutely nothing. I know the battery is fairly new and when I first started it it turned the engine over just fine. Do you have any idea what might be the problem. Thanks, Brent -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:45:19 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help Hi, Brent: Could be a loose ground or blown main fuse. Of course, if it is the fuse, something caused it to blow. I would start looking at the Regulator/Rectifier Unit. If it shorted out, it could create a ground fault that would blow the main. If not that, then you've got a short in another circuit, perhaps the spark-control unit. To find the circuit that's bad, pull all of the fuses; then, replace them one at a time until the short shows up. That will narrow the search to the faulty circuit. Good luck, and keep us posted on what you find. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:04:53 +0200 From: "ua003757@flashnet.it" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: (nessun soggetto) PARISI FRANCESCO Via Castello belvedere, 75 80016 MARANO - NA ITALY fax : +39 081 5761031 - 5763923 e.mail:arredocity@flashnet.it Dear Sir, I have visited your site PACIFIC COAST EUROPE, and since i have acquired PC800 had used by a few days to one, i address to you to resolve my problem. The motorbyke what time i have, it doesn,t possess some book of instruction and maintenance, i don't even know like to check the level of the oil or to replace a light bilb of the indicator of anterior direction and other. For this motive i would be thankful you could send me some copies of the most important operation that are made of frequent on on this model. Even if i must pay the trouble that i cause to you, they are to your disposition for any explanation. The averything you can send it i have to half FAX or for e.mail to the address "arredocity@flashnet.it" Thanking you in advance. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas Brown" To: "Brent Rasmussen" , Subject: RE: PC800: Help Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:17:09 -0700 Importance: Normal Hi Brent, Below is a copy of my 89 PC800 Electrical system Mantra: 1. faulty battery a. will hold a load for a while, but will discharge if left unattached for a few days b. low fluid... not uncommon after winter and moving into summer 2. faulty regulator/rectifier I have been suspect of this little device for the 89 and 90 model years. There is a prescribed test in the service manual that you can follow, but you should use the testing equipment listed in the manual. The device is very easy to replace and will cost you ~$120 if ordered from Nicki at Honda of Milpitas....The best price I have found so far. List for the part is $156. The device is located behind the left air duct panel. After removing that panel look up and to the right and you will see a small 2"lx1"wx1/2"h solid piece held to the frame by two phillips head screws. At the bottom is a five prong white plug. 3. faulty stator The 89 is infamous for the wires wrapped around the stator coil to melt, short and therefore cause the alternator not to produce current to recharge the battery. I am not sure if this problem persists in the 90, but would be keep it in the back of my head. I personally would not attempt to replace the stator, but others have and you can look through the mailing list archives about their attempts. I stator replacement will run about $350 including $270 for the stator and labor Suggested course of action: 1. retest the battery load test it at full charge and then let it sit for 2 days unconnected. If it holds a charge then it should be OK 2. check for charging system leaks disconnect the negative terminal and with the key off, check to see if any current is flowing (amps registering with an ammeter) If current is flowing, suspect a short. If you have not been doing any electrical work on the bike, suspect the regulator/rectifier 3. test the regulator rectifier if bad replace it 4. test the stator if bad, have it replace Hope this helps > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > Brent Rasmussen > Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 8:29 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Help > > > > I have an 89 PC that I had a problem with this morning. Just after I > started it > and it was ideling, I noticed the lights were flickering and the tack > was going > crazy. When I tried to accellerate it did not have any power. Within a few > seconds it completely shut down. When I turned the key off and then on again, > nothing works, absolutely nothing. I know the battery is fairly new > and when I > first started it it turned the engine over just fine. Do you have > any idea what > might be the problem. > > Thanks, > > Brent > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 14:11:44 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 14:11:20 -0600 From: David Clark To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help My wifes PC did that and the 2 items that I checked and cured the problem were a loose battery connection or there is an accessory plug under the seat which may cause the problem if you have anything connected to it wrong. David Clark Logan, UT >>> Brent Rasmussen 06/05/98 09:28AM >>> I have an 89 PC that I had a problem with this morning. Just after I started it and it was ideling, I noticed the lights were flickering and the tack was going crazy. When I tried to accellerate it did not have any power. Within a few seconds it completely shut down. When I turned the key off and then on again, nothing works, absolutely nothing. I know the battery is fairly new and when I first started it it turned the engine over just fine. Do you have any idea what might be the problem. Thanks, Brent -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Johnl" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Cockpit Mounts Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:13:17 +0200 Hi John, I stumbled upon the next site by coincidence yesterday. Harry also put a Garmin III on his BMW. Very nice pictures, allthough I don't know how he mounted it exactly, but there's an e-mail adress on his page. Hopes this helps. http://www.greenspun.com/harry/gear.htm Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@ThePentagon.com > Has anyone on this list bought and used one of the SAENG #2510 Single flex > dash mounts to carry a GPS receiver? I'm looking for something of the > sort to use with my Garmin GPS III. The autobile mount Garmin sells won't > fit well anywhere I'd care to try and use it. (Anatomically explicit and > athletically improbable comments not invited, thank you.) > > I'd prefer not to puncture or glue upon "Ruby's" near-perfect skin and ruin > her complexion. Top of clutch and front brake hydraulics reserves would be > ok to glue to. > > Thnx, > > John Louk > Carmel, IN > '90 PC "Ruby" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 3650500 ; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:26:39 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:27:11 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: drivetrain noise Has anyone ever coasted in neutral at about 10-15 mph with the engine off and listed to the drivetrain? Sometimes I shut the engine off as I coast into the driveway and have noted some drivetrain noise. Not bad, I don't think. Perhaps just a little unexpected for how quiet the rest of the bike is. Scot '89 PC800 15,900 miles ------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:58:13 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Help Brent Rasmussen wrote:
I have an 89 PC that I had a problem with this morning.  Just after I started it
and it was ideling, I noticed the lights were flickering and the tack was going
crazy.  When I tried to accellerate it did not have any power.  Within a few
seconds it completely shut down.  When I turned the key off and then on again,
nothing works, absolutely nothing.  I know the battery is fairly new and when I
first started it it turned the engine over just fine.  Do you have any idea what
might be the problem.

Thanks,

Brent

    Brent, MY machine has been down with similar problem since X-mas. ('89 PC)  Although I still have power to all circuits-just Tach hunting before engine cuts off.    I have replaced R/R, CDI, Fuel cutoff relay, battery -all on suggestions (which were good and in the right direction) After NO success, I wrote MCN (this month's) and AMI suggests a faulty ground in the circuit running from the Tach to the Fuel cutoff relay (see diagram in shop manual).
    I have yet the time to thoroughly check this.
    A ground fault at the tach or fuel relay may also have spiked the R/R to frying your battery, or CDI. So, maybe taking other's suggestion of at least checking the condition of your charging system first will lead you down the path to a more correct solution.
    If you have no power, check main fuse first (behind driver's seat)
Then battery condition and connectors. Then R/R output.
    The Stator usually goes on "89's before 30,000 mi
    Good luck...
--
Peace and All Good, Bill
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:04:03 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: drivetrain noise Scot Piper wrote:
Has anyone ever coasted in neutral at about 10-15 mph with the engine
off and listed to the drivetrain?  Sometimes I shut the engine off as I
coast into the driveway and have noted some drivetrain noise.
    Scot, coasting with the engine off will cause damage to certain componants-although this may be minimalised if the engine is not actually turning at all (in neutral).    The noise you hear is probably the drive splines/shaft or front wheel bearing/speedo cable.
--
Peace and All Good, Bill
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RfY09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: THROTTLEMEISTER From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT Dana, What's the difference between the $100 Throttlemeister and my simple-minded (like me) $20 Throttlelock? Is a Wrist-Rest redundant with a Throttlemeister or useful additon? Ann Fri. 6.5.98 9:35 MST annreid@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RfX09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: patkins@mari.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: JUNO A-WHISTLING From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT Paul, 1) I LOVE JUNO! So will your girlfriend...I'M SURE! It's simple, yet versatile and extremely EFFICIENT. Even I had no trouble from the beginning. a) I switched from Yahoo which caused me untold months of pain and suffering and forced me to lose 45 mssgs! *OUCH* b) We also have AT&T Worldnet which works great but costs $20/mo. and we have unlimited Internet access. We can receive graphics thru Worldnet but not thru Juno. c) JUNO is ALL in Straight ASCII, which means good virus protections from downloads as I do not *think* viruses can attach to that basic format. Not 100% sure of this ... passing this info on 3rd hand. d) JUNO lets me manipulate instantly and read and/or write directly from my wordprocessor directory (or any other directory for that matter). e) JUNO connects via modem for only a few seconds or a minute at most at a time so phone line is NOT inhibited for long periods. It sends and receives when modemed up but otherwise everything is done offline at split second speed on your hard drive and/or in RAM. f) Everything you wanted to know about JUNO and are sorry you asked... now? 2) Whistle is extremely compact and on bicycle it strapped to my handlebars via quick release rubber-band like mechanism. The tiny activating pushbutton is attached to this smallish black box via a small black wire. Now I just keep it in a pocket with the tiny button-on-a-wire hanging out a tad and I cart it around only when I think I might need it.... mostly in-town driving where there are a lot of driveways and congested intersections. It emits a very shrill sound. I need earplugs just to use it. Too much said? Sorry! Ann annreid@juno.com Fri. 6.5.98 09:00 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RfW09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: brasmussen@smtpgate.ddc.dla.mil Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:29:36 EDT Brent, RE: DEAD BIKE Thinking/Asking Out Loud: 1) Did you check the battery connections to make sure nothing slipped out of place or wire got caught and broken? 2) Did you ACCIDENTALLY hit the kill switch and not notice? 3) Does the PC have an alternator? I'm not near my service manual to check. And I'm woefully ignorant about these things. [I carry a gazillion tools & fix-it gadgets and the manual so someone else will be able to help me out if I have a problem. Alas, I can read, I just can't apply effectively. *GRUMBLE, COMPLAIN*] 4) Did you notice any odd noises, hesitation or faltering other than the flickerings when you first turned it over? 5) You do have plenty of gas, right? 6) Do you have a trickle charger that you can plug in for an hour or so and try it again for clues? I have a $20 charger that I has a permanently plugged-in pigtail attached to my battery for easy access. I've always had one since first bike in 1975 and it's worth it's weight in tacos (to plagarize Jean-Luc-2). 7) Have you tried offering a human sacrifice? I'm not sure if you should try this first or last. Ann Fri. 6.5.98 9:10 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SJQ09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:48:03 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: arredocity@flashnet.it Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: (nessun soggetto) From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:48:03 EDT Parisi Francesco - Italy We can order the operator/service manual from local dealers here for approx. $50-60 US and mail Global Priority (fairly fast overseas) for approx. $8-$10 US. The local dealer told me it would take 3-4 weeks to get to him if ordered today. Perhaps your Italian dealer can get one in Italian, French, German, Swiss or whatever?? Can't hurt to ask. Ann annreid@juno.com Fri. 6.5.98 14:35 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:40:19 EDT To: annreid@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Small Lights? Ann, et al, They're Pilots. There are two styles of the small ones, oval about 2" x 3", black finish, and thin, rectangular, chrome ones about 1 1/2 x 4". The ovals fit nicely with the styling of the pc, and were $29.95 at an Auto Zone store. The rectangulars, oddly, were only $25.95. They come with a wiring harness and lighted switch, but DON'T have a relay to allow using a switched lead. Potential problems there. Steve Wilson in Ruston, La (deere@linknet.net) put me onto them. Patrick in La. '97 three-eyed Thumper Rabbit -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:46:25 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: More Hand Tingle Coasters: I too have have the hand tingle. It feels like the back of my right hand and arm go to sleep. I even wear that glove looser. I tried something today while I rode around looking at Vista Cruises and Wrist rests. I tried to hold my wrist higher than normal. Basically trying to keep it straight or bent up a little. Kinda like the wrist rests for typing do to avoid carpal tunnel. I really think it helped! I am going on the Georgia Ride for Kids Sunday so I will get some time to test this. As for throttle accessories. I called around Atlanta and found one dealer that had a Vista Cruise he said would work on a PC. There are three models, universal, single cable and dual cable. The universal definitely will not work since it requires a bare spot of handle bar for its anchor point. Either of the other two will work but will be jammed in between the handle bar cover and the inside end of the throttle grip. Both will require a little ingenuity to anchor them since they normally hook around the throttle cable housing as it leaves the throttle. I think a small screw into the handle bar cover will do for the single cable model and two holes drilled in the cover to match the tabs on the dual cable model will anchor it. For either to work well, I think you will need to trim the raised inside end of the throttle grip off to allow room for the device to fit in and the throttle to rotate freely when it is not in use. Only one dealer knew of the Throttlemeister. Nobody had one to see. He said he thought it was around a HUNDRED DOLLARS. Too rich for my depleted motorcycle budget. I did find a supply of Wrist Rests at Honda of Lawrenceville. They have the chrome metal ones for $21.95. I tried one on and it was too loose. I'm sure you can bend the tab down to make it tighter, but then it may be hard to get it on the grip. The bottom line is I didn't buy anything. The Wrist Rest is so simple that I may make my own and try that. (cheap, cheap) Keep two wheelin' Pat McNew -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:41:20 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: sold bike Hi, all - I have a buyer for my 1989 PC - Frank and Martha Peeters are from Belgium and will be traveling to the States in September to pick up the bike and ride for about 6 weeks and then will ship the bike home. He has a Gold Wing at home and the PC will be her bike. I have given him the information to subscribe to the list - and he plans to do that soon. He (and I) have a lot of questions that we could use help on - such as insurance and tags and shipping information. They may also look for route ideas - they plan to go to California after picking up the bike. This feels like new territory to me, but I am sure that others have had some experience in these areas. There are a lot of details to take care of, but it is great to be able to reach people through the Internet! I'm sure Frank will be introducing himself in a day or two. Make him welcome! Lynda 1990 PC "Val" - 11,200 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: (nessun soggetto) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:11:58 +0200 Hi Parisi, you may think you send an e-mail to the owner of the PC-Europe site, but in fact you send it to an e-mail adress which is shared by a lot of PC800 owners. It is sort of a common e-mail adress. Everybody that subscribes to the list (all free offcourse), receives all the messages send to this adress (pc800@hpc.uh.edu). I don't know if you allready subscribed, if not all you have to do is send the following message: Subscribe PC800 You send this message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. Too bad you didn't get a manual with your purchase. Faxing (or scanning) certain manual pages is easier than explaining in text how to remove certain plastic parts. And because I own neither a fax nor scanner (I know, I'm behind in the technological revolution, I'll catch up..) I can't help you further, but I'm sure there are plenty of helpfull people around here on the list. Here are some more sites where you can learn more about your great bike: http://www.essentialhealth.net/pcn/ http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ http://server1.hypermart.net/scpcrc/ http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/ http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ Anyway, welcome to the club, Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Olanda Emile@ThePentagon.com > PARISI FRANCESCO > Via Castello belvedere, 75 > 80016 MARANO - NA > ITALY > fax : +39 081 5761031 - 5763923 > e.mail:arredocity@flashnet.it > > Dear Sir, > I have visited your site PACIFIC COAST EUROPE, and since i have acquired > PC800 had used by a few days to one, i address to you to resolve my > problem. > The motorbyke what time i have, it doesn,t possess some book of > instruction and > maintenance, i don't even know like to check the level of the oil or to > replace a > light bilb of the indicator of anterior direction and other. > For this motive i would be thankful you could send me some copies of the > most > important operation that are made of frequent on on this model. > Even if i must pay the trouble that i cause to you, they are to your > disposition for > any explanation. > The averything you can send it i have to half FAX or for e.mail to the > address > "arredocity@flashnet.it" > > Thanking you in advance. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VnO09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:01:54 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: LRaeMiller@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: sold bike From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:01:54 EDT Lynda, 1) Suggest they order the service manual now as it may take a month to come in and they will probably need/want it sooner or later, same goes for trunk bags if applicable. 2) I do not know about licensing in your state. In Arizona, the plates go with the vehicle; only need to change title into new owner's name. Registered in new owner at that time automatic. Not sure how this works for aliens (not from another planet, just another country). For sure they will need a valid motorcycle license accepted in this country by the insurance company. 3) Insurance: Call PROGRESSIVE 800/274-4499 Dairyland also sells M/C insur. 4) Trip Tiks: If they belong to an auto club there, AAA usually reciprocates here for free maps and trip tiks etc. 5) Call Honda Rider's Club of Amer. 800/847-4722 and see if they can pre-buy a membership so they will have roadside assistance in case of a problem. It's $35/year. 6) If they are going to be going to a lot of Nat'l Parks, they will be money ahead to buy an annual Golden Eagle Pass for $50 (Clinton raised it from $25, the scumbag!). They can "pencil in" their names and give card to you when they go back to Belgium. *GOOD IDEA* I had some Swiss visitors for a month last year and that's what they did. 7) Are the tires good and battery good? If they need replacing, you might suggest they order (tires, for example) in time for their arrival. Ann annreid@juno.com Fri. 6.5.98 17:55 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "ua003757@flashnet.it" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: (nessun soggetto) of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:04:53 +0200." <35782535.1AFE7F0C@flashnet.it> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:57:02 -0500 "ua003757@flashnet.it" writes: [...] > The motorbyke what time i have, it doesn,t possess some book of > instruction and > maintenance, i don't even know like to check the level of the oil or to Hey! That's a good question. I spent the day visiting 4 Honda dealers. Rode a PC800 for the first time. Most satisfactory. Asked the first 3 salesmen, "How/where do you check the oil." Salesman didn't know. One suggested Hondas were so darn reliable it didn't need to be checked between changes. My car has 62k miles on it and doesn't use oil beteen changes either but that doesn't mean it doesn't get checked every tank of gas. Figured out for myself where the water and gas go. Forgot to ask at the 4th as I was telling them, "Find me one at the price you mentioned. I want one." Will know tomorrow if he got the one in the computer. And if he stands by his price for a 1998. Eventually I'll find out for myself where the oil goes. But in the meantime was concerned about used bikes when the oil fill/check isn't easy or obvious. Was concerned prior owners would take the attitude, "out of sight, out of mind." Then again I didn't go pulling on body panels that didn't have obvious finger indentions. Saw where the battery goes. Looks like the same battery as my VT500FT. That little thing? 12N12A4 I belive from memory? Know they are $16 at my local Sams Club? (had to put one in the VT500FT this week). At that price it only has to last the summer. Any pictures of naked PC800's? Am curious as to where the airfilter is, how hard is it to service the carbs, and where *is* the gas tank. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "R. A. Robinson" To: "PC800 Group" Subject: PC800: Givi Trunk Question! Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:08:56 -0400 Hello to All, I have a question. I subscribe to the group and own a 97 PC I purchased this past March new. Can anyone tell me how the Givi Trunk has worked out for those who have had it installed and with the backrest built on the trunk. I need to get this type so I can ride the wife and kids. I am not comfortable with the stock backrest that honda sells nor am I comfortable with the one that Corbin sells. It just does not seem to have enough upper support for the passengers back. Can anyone shed any light on this situation? The only other choice that I can see is the Givi backrest that comes on the trunk. I am not happy with putting another trunk on the bike but I guess my options are limited in this subject area. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards and Until Next Time, RAR205 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WSQ09005; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:26:09 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: OIL & AIR FILTER JUNQUE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:26:09 EDT David, 1) You DEFINITELY need to order a service manual! NOW!! It costs about $50-60. This comes only from HONDA via dealer as far as I know and can take a month to get. 2) The battery is NOT $16! More like $60-$100 installed. Not necessarily a quick and easy installation. Very tight fit. It is a sealed (gel filled, I think) battery. My original battery lasted from '89 to '96 but my replacement lasted just under two years. 3) OIL is checked via dipstick when bike is level on centerstand. It is the smallish, mutulated oval shaped gray/silver piece by the peg for your RIGHT foot. If I recall (bike not w/ me) it is held in place by two small forward plastic tabs and on the other end of the oval by a rubber grommet into which an arrow-like piece of plastic pops in. I was taught that you are NOT supposed to put the dipstick screwed all the way to check oil (just touch first set of threads), but it DOES need to be screwed down securely BEFORE reassembly and riding. I was also taught it is a bad idea to overfill as it will foam and cause much grief for its owner. I use Mobil 1 synthetic 15-50 or somesuch. 4) AIR FILTER is under that huge belly that looks like a gas tank but is not. One must remove quite a few pieces to get to it. It seems to me (with my bad memory) that one must FIRST remove the two small gray flat pieces in the middle near but below the dashboard instruments. And I "THINK" the left piece needs to come out first, but not sure. I can check my notes when I get to the bike's records. 5) CARBS: Rice Honda in Rapid City, SD did mine in Aug. 1996 at the Sturgis Rally. The mechanic did a super job and answered all my silly questions and let me take all the pics I wanted. Alas, I have no scanner to share photos. 6) Anywho, I hope this is enuf to get you started and ease your mind. I'm sure others will correct and/or elaborate on the above instructions. PATIENCE! Ann annreid@juno.com 6.5.98 (ie. 05.06.98) 18:55 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Adrian Zai" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 on the East Coast? Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:43:02 -0400 Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list for about a week now. I have been interested in the = PC800 for a while, and have finally decided to get one. I was only wondering = how many PC800 owners are from the east coast (I'm in Boston). And if there are, is there any kind of PC800 club on this side of the continent? I'm still trying to locate a dealer that has a new pc800 for sale. = Anyone knows a dealer that has one? I might have to get out of Boston to get = one. By the way, it's been really pleasant and fun experience to join the = list. Thanks, Adrian Zai -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:15:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:15:40 -0400 From: "Richard A. Schuler" To: Adrian Zai CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 on the East Coast? Mount Holly Honda in New Jersey has a new PC for sale 1-800-660-2123 Ask for Tray OR I have a used 1990 Red PC for sale. Yours, Radar Adrian Zai wrote: > Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list for about a week now. I have been > interested in the PC800for a while, and have finally decided to get > one. I was only wondering howmany PC800 owners are from the east > coast (I'm in Boston). And if thereare, is there any kind of PC800 > club on this side of the continent?I'm still trying to locate a > dealer that has a new pc800 for sale. Anyoneknows a dealer that has > one? I might have to get out of Boston to get one.By the way, it's > been really pleasant and fun experience to join the > list. Thanks,Adrian Zai -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:56:59 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:44:52 -0500 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: K&N Filter --------------5F9D4CCC0525267184DE77B5 Hi list. I ordered my K&N air filter today. I'm looking forward to seeing if it really makes a difference. After talking to K&N and the local dealer, I was suprised to find the price was the same. I'll let ya'll know how it works. James '90 PC.....(RED & SILVER).... --------------5F9D4CCC0525267184DE77B5 Hi list.
I ordered my K&N air filter today. I'm looking forward to seeing if it really makes a difference.
After talking to K&N and the local dealer, I was suprised to find the price was the same.
I'll let ya'll know how it works.
James
'90 PC.....(RED & SILVER).... --------------5F9D4CCC0525267184DE77B5-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:44:06 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: The Fossil has a new toy! To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Yup...sooner or later it had to happen! Yesterday I bought a '97 Pacific Coast from Champion Honda in Charleston.= It had less than 800 miles on it. The previous owner traded it in on a Go= ld Wing. All of the accessories on my '90 are transferred to the new bike. I really like it! Stay tuned! Dana P.S. I had planned to put 100,000 miles on my '90 model, but stopped at 75,000 miles. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:59:11 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Not Quite So High Mileage PCs Hello, all!! Due to an underwhelming response, I'd like to repeat this request with SLIGHTLY lower numbers. If you have over 50,000 miles, 80,000km, on your bike, I would like to hear from you about your maintenance items. People who already wrote, I have your comments saved. --- A longtime Beemer rider was eyeing my bike yesterday and said his next bike might be a PC. He loves the styling and he's getting to dislike BMW's attitude, recent design trends, and outrageous prices. He's interested in whether the PCs have good reliability into their old age, and what "old age" means for a PC. I told him that as far as I know the engine, powertrain and suspension are extremely reliable but that I would collect some hard numbers for him. So -- if you are a high-mileage rider -- say, over 50,000 miles/ 80,000 kms, could you write me PRIVATE email (so as not to clutter the list) with your bike's year, mileage, and major maintenance items? I'll make up a nice report of the info in about 10 days time, and post it to the list. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:36:45 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "Dana L. Sawyer" Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: The Fossil has a new toy! Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:34:58 -0400 Dana wrote: >Yesterday I bought a '97 Pacific Coast from Champion Honda in Charleston. >I really like it! >P.S. I had planned to put 100,000 miles on my '90 model, but stopped at >75,000 miles. Congratulations Dana! How about posting a few photos of the new "lady in your life"? Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 2500+ (S)miles Grand Rapids, MI Ps- As regards the use of the word "fossil" in describing yourself: Do you need a special permit to transport yourself across state lines? Do you have a strong attraction to natural history museums, as if they were home? Do people refer to you as "a chip off the old block"? Does the Social Security Administration require a carbon-date verification? Sorry-I couldn't resist :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Adrian Zai" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:27:06 -0400 I'm overwhelmed with all the replys I got! You guys are great! Thanks everyone for all your help. Hopefully, I'll be able to purchase a = new PC800 next week. I'm a medical student and I have my medical board exam to take in a couple of days. I've been daydreaming about touring=20 the east coast of Maine in a new PC800 too often already instead of = studying. It's time to get over with this exam and go touring after.... Thanks again, Adrian Zai -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:38:45 -0500 From: Steve Wilson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: THROTTLEMEISTER I may be wrong but it looks like $80 difference to me. The function of the two locks is the same. The wrist rest only makes a tight grip unnecessary. The throttle locks make no grip at all possible. If you haven't seen the Throttlemeister, It replaces the bar end weight and turns to lock and unlock the throttle. I have enjoyed your honesty and contribution since you joined the list or I wouldn't have replied the way I did in the first sentence. Welcome to the list. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Torill Janne Knutsen" To: Subject: PC800: Dyno tested anyone ?? Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:43:13 +0200 __I am importing 2 PC 800 , both 1989 models to Norway. Some part of the import tax are on the Horsepower. Since Honda never have quote any and I finally got the custom auttorities to agree on that a Dyno test will be sufficient, does any one of You ever tested it? If so would You please be so kind to E-mail me a copy of the test or send it by "snail mail". __ Thanks - Regards Arvid Lvik Kornblomsttunet 18 N-4027 Stavanger Norway E-mail: lovik@writeme.com ___Life is what happens_______ when you are busy making other plans. John Lennon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:53:42 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "R. A. Robinson" CC: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Trunk Question! The GIVI trunk is great. I have the 46 ltr. bag and the backrest pad and the optional brake light. My 14 year old son, 5'10", is totally comfy and at ease leaning back on the rest. Some on the list have said that their SOs' don't care for the pad because it is kinda high and makes the shorter folk feel as the pad is pushing them forward. My SO hasn't ridden very much since I mounted the bag so I haven't heard a gripe from her yet. My son sits back there with no hands and eats it up. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:56:07 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "geist, james" CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: K&N Filter It's louder but it works great. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 09:02:13 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Dana L. Sawyer" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: The Fossil has a new toy! Lucky old fart! Congratulations! I bought my 95 in August 97 with 265 miles on it. Would you believe a trade in on a four wheeler? A fossil is the same as on old fart isn't it.:-) -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 09:13:06 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Torill Janne Knutsen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dyno tested anyone ?? Here is the only dyno test report I know of. Modifications - Torque and HP

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Steve Wilson     Ruston LA.

Owner:     Father & Son Lawn Care

Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer
           22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck

Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800
           46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield,
           and too many other options to list.
           (My Wife might see!)
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 09:12:12 -0700 From: Gail Anundson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: K&N Filter I ordered a K&N air filter as well. The owner of the shop said that I might have to rejet the carbs after that. Or he suggested that I block off part of the filter if the bike runs poorly afterwards. Does anyone have experience that would indicate a need for this kind of adjustment. Bob geist, james wrote: > > > Hi list. > I ordered my K&N air filter today. I'm looking forward to seeing if it > really makes a difference. > After talking to K&N and the local dealer, I was suprised to find the > price was the same. > I'll let ya'll know how it works. > James > '90 PC.....(RED & SILVER).... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 12:38:10 -0400 To: Adrian Zai CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 Adrian, best of luck on your exams and welcome to a great riding experience. MJ "New" 96 PC 1900 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 263 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:22:21 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: New jacket! Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:22:26 -0400 Importance: Normal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, I finally went out and made my buy. I stopped by a local dealer's accessory department and picked up a Motoport Canyon jacket yesterday after work. Bright red (matches my gloves). So far, haven't had that so-called "I wonder, what if..." feeling. Quite happy with it. Haven't yet had a rain trial yet, but from what I understand, we'll be hit up with some in the next couple of days. The tags and the Motoport catalog stamp the Canyon as a waterproof jacket. Anyone have any other experience with that? Thanks for all of the input about which jackets you all have. It was much appreciated on my end. Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNXmlAR+YC0eKA/vCEQK9LwCfRR9Q76xsrV551ayWyLZlBldkBD8AmwTI WMiqHg9mmBh5dEyKPeVLnLrc =kX45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RnP09005; Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:08:16 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: waffle@bu.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 on the East Coast? From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:08:16 EDT Welcome aboard, Adrian! Alas, I'm from the other end of the continent and have no Taxxachusetts PC info to help you. Ann annreid@juno.com Sat. 6.6.98 11:20 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Torill Janne Knutsen" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Dyno tested anyone ?? of "Sat, 06 Jun 1998 15:43:13 +0200." <199806061342.PAA19662@online.no> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:15:39 -0500 "Torill Janne Knutsen" writes: > __I am importing 2 PC 800 , both 1989 models to Norway. Some part of th= e > import tax are on the Horsepower. Since Honda never have quote any and = I > finally got the custom auttorities to agree on that a Dyno test will be= > sufficient, does any one of You ever tested it? > If so would You please be so kind to E-mail me a copy of the test or se= nd > it by "snail mail". Cycle World, July 1998, page 28, "Powered by a liquid-cooled, sohc, = three-valve-per-cylinder V-Twin that makes just shy of 50 rear-wheel = horsepower..." -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:40:56 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: boba@teleport.com CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: K&N Filter My gas milage may be worse. It has so much more power that I try to use it all, every time I take off. If I rode more sensibly I am sure it would be much better. Shame the PC doesn't have a chrome pipe to turn blue so I could tell if it's too lean. The instructions that came with the filter didn't say anything about rejetting so I didn't. Haven't burned a hole in a piston yet. Only have about 400 miles since the change. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 19:27:44 -0400 From: Jeff Leech To: PC800 Group Subject: PC800: Motoport Canyon Jacket For Sale. With all this talk recently about jackets, I realized that I have a jacket that I will never fit into again. I bought the jacket in 1994, and used it for a couple of seasons until I bought an Aerostitch Roadcrafter two piece suit. Type: Motoport Canyon Jacket with removable thermal lining Size: XL Color: Red with Black shoulders Price: $100 OBO It's a good jacket, but doesn't breathe like the Aerostitch so it can get hot when the temperature rises. It is waterproof, except around the air vent zippers on the side. The thermal lining is very good, it has kept me comfortable on commutes down into the 30's. Jeff Leech Centerville, OH '94 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BobDuWah@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:36:55 EDT To: deere@linknet.net, boba@teleport.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: K&N Filter The K&N people know the product pretty well, and I would bet they would have recommended rejetting if it were necessary. The factory style replacement filters they sell don't normally require you to change anything anyway, but to be sure call them direct. I plan to buy their filter when mine needs replacing. Bob Ronecker St Louis, Mo 94PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) cc: dkelly@hiwaay.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: PC800: Re: OIL & AIR FILTER JUNQUE of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:26:09 EDT." <19980605.191721.5447.2.annreid@juno.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 06:24:25 -0500 ann s reid writes: > David, > > 1) You DEFINITELY need to order a service manual! NOW!! It costs about > $50-60. This comes only from HONDA via dealer as far as I know and can > take a month to get. Well thats Standard Practice for me. That and the parts fiche. I figure if I put the service manual on the shelf in front of the bike where it has to stare at it all night it will learn I know all its secrets and will disassemble it if it acts up. So hopefully it decides not to act up. > 2) The battery is NOT $16! More like $60-$100 installed. Not > necessarily a quick and easy installation. Very tight fit. It is a > sealed (gel filled, I think) battery. My original battery lasted from > '89 to '96 but my replacement lasted just under two years. I saw where it was in a '97. It was not sealed. It was small. The P/N was 12N12 or something similar. Last week I purchased a cheapo "Champion" (as in spark plugs) 12N124A battery from my local Sams Club for $16 plus tax. As an engineer I realize "looking" is only a first order approximation and the PC800 battery "looked" similar in size and form as my VT500FT's battery which I had recently purchased. A way to get a good second order approximation is to dig out an old catalog and cross reference part numbers. 1995 Denis Kirk catalog shows C/N 20-126 for my VT500FT, C/N 20-527 for the 89-90 PC800. No match. The 20-126 is a Yuasa YB12A-A but the 20-527 isn't listed. My unsaid point was, *if* the batteries were the same (VT500 and PC800) *then* the PC800 was under-batteried for a tourer. > 3) OIL is checked via dipstick when bike is level on center stand. It is > the smallish, mutulated oval shaped gray/silver piece by the peg for your > RIGHT foot. If I recall (bike not w/ me) it is held in place by two > small forward plastic tabs and on the other end of the oval by a rubber > grommet into which an arrow-like piece of plastic pops in. Saw that panel. Didn't see any obvious way to remove it. Wasn't going to pry on the dealer's bike. > I was taught that you are NOT supposed to put the dipstick screwed > all the way to check oil (just touch first set of threads), but it DOES > need to be screwed down securely BEFORE reassembly and riding. It matters not what you were *taught*. Only matters what manufacturer says in the owners manual for that specific model. My John Deere 14SB with 5.5HP Kawasaki OHV engine is to be checked as you describe. In fact they print those instructions on the dip stick just to make sure you know. > I was also taught it is a bad idea to overfill as it will foam and > cause much grief for its owner. I use Mobil 1 synthetic 15-50 or > somesuch. As with most any engine. It was hard to overfill an original CB750 which used a dry sump and an oil tank. It was easy to overfill my prior lawn mower with a B&S engine and a long dip stick that was hard to read. It got overfilled once. Engine blew up in a most spectacular way. To this day I marvel at the size of the blue cloud it created. It totally buried 3 houses. Neighbors were running out of their houses. It was quite something. I drained the excess oil out of the engine. Restarted. Finished mowing the yard. For the next 6 years I re-used Mobil-1 drained from my VW Golf in the mower. Wanted dirty oil so I could read the dip stick. Mower is still running 10 years later at its new home. No internal engine work. The B&S engine wanted its oil checked with the dipstick screwed in. > 4) AIR FILTER is under that huge belly that looks like a gas tank but is > not. One must remove quite a few pieces to get to it. Thought as much. The problem with the VT500FT is the carbs are between the cylinders under the gas tank. Tank and air filter inlet has to be removed to sync. But the carbs need gas to sync. Gas line is very short. Even with the tank removed the carbs are still hard to get to. Purchased a plastic gas tank off a dead lawnmower for the task. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 00:12:09 -0400 To: Gaffneydp@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield At 4:01 PM -0400 6/3/98, Gaffneydp@aol.com wrote: >I attended the trade show at Americade yesterday and took a look at the >Clearview windshield made for the PC800. Hi Dennis and everyone else. Dennis...When you were at the booth, was there just the Prototype screen, or was there a production unit as well? I was also at Americade this week. I had spoken with Rob at Sport Touring Accessories prior to Americade, and he arranged it with Craig at Clearview so that he could bring me a shield to the show. If you saw the production shield at the booth before Thursday noon, then you saw the one that I have on my PC800 now. When I held the Clearview up against my stock shield, it was hard to fully imagine, since the shield is a few inches longer, and it does sit farther back, and as a result you can't really just hold it up against the stock shield. It sure looked like it was exactly what I needed, so I bought it and then, using the stock Honda tool kit I removed the stock shield and installed the Clearview, while parked on the side stand on the grass island just outside the Americade Tour Expo tent! The Clearview uses the original Honda mounting hardware as well. This shield is GREAT! It is very quiet, and, as Dennis mentionned, the optical clarity is pretty impressive. I also installed the SAENG edging on it. I had that before on my stock shield and liked it, so I bought some for this shield as well. I installed the shield on the Thursday afternoon, and then on Friday I went on the Six Lakes guided tour. All together that day, from the hotel to the Tour starting point, the tour itself, and then back to the hotel, I logged just over 270 miles. Most of the tour was back road driving, rolling hills, and the wind ranged from 'windy' to 'very windy'. We were in a pack of about 70 bikes, and I was riding with another PC (a '90). The rider of the other PC, a guy named Bill, commented on how it looked like I wasn't leaning as much when we were riding in a crosswind. I'm not sure if this is as a result of the shield or not, but I had noticed while driving that I didn't feel like the wind was tossing me around as much. I have since that time added another 500 miles of riding, both around the Lake George area and along the back roads of New York State and Ontario, while driving home from Americade today. I am still very happy with this shield. I have one thing that I would like to see addressed with this shield, and I'll be calling Craig at Clearview on Monday a.m. The stock shield has that blacked out area below the dash panel, and the Clearview does not. As a result, you can see the rubber backing where the shield mounts to the bike. It's not too bad to look at, as there are no exposed screws or brackets and stuff, but it doesn't have that same level to detail and finish that the rest of the PC800 has. I'll try to take a few jpegs of the shield tomorrow and post it somewhere so people can get a look at it. So....are there any listers out there who are interested in purchasing a stock Honda shield, from a 95, with less than 5000 miles on it? I'm not sure what it's worth, so I'll entertain any offers. Reply to me directly please. Thanks... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 00:43:54 -0400 To: "Dana L. Sawyer" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: The Fossil has a new toy! Hey everyone! It looks like Dana Sawyer is getting a few jabs at his age because of the 'fossil' in his signature. I've never met Dana, or seen him in person, so it wouldn't be polite of me to say that he is 'old', but I heard a rumour that Dana's Social Security Number is only 7 digits long!!!!! fsl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada Systems Consulting - Business Process Improvement Year 2000 Compliance - Security Evaluations mailto:fsl@borgconsulting.com "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) 7 Jun 1998 06:12:38 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 23:09:20 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: PC800: Stock Seat Modification To: PC800 email boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BD91A0.235352A0" Thanks to the ideas and experimentalization of Patrick Leray and Greg = Eyrich on the stock PC seat, I tried it today. Trimmed 1 1/4" off the = front passenger seat, turned it over and installed it on the rear of the = pilot seat. Haven't ridden it yet, but there is definitely more room to = move on the seat. I wont go into details on how it was done, since both = already detailed it in their posting. However, here are a few things I = learned.... =20 1) I removed the whole seat cover of the drivers seat. There is a = plastic film like saran wrap on the foam. It was ripped, and torn in = some areas. (supposed to waterproof the seat?!) Decided it needed = replacing. Took a 8 gal garbage bag, pulled it over the seat, smoothed = it out, restapled the seat cover, then trimmed the plastic bag at the = edges exposing the bottom like before. Not bad. Could do the same for = the passenger seat if wanted. 2) I used a filet knife to cut the foam - worked great! the cut was = pretty smooth without jagged edges. Marked the cut line with a pen then = slowly eased the knife into the top and out of the bottom and just = slowly cut along the line.=20 3) if you put the "discarded" piece of foam that was cut off the = passenger seat onto the back of the drivers seat, you can't have too = much foam towards the ends because when you put the seats back on the = bike, and try to close the trunk, the plastic trunk cover will come = right down onto the seat where you just added foam. The stock seat is = fit perfectly so the plastic just clears it, so if you add foam to your = seat end, you can only fill in the middle 2/3rds and allow the trunk to = close without a hitch. =20 And yeah, It looks good. Total Cost: $2.04, for a box of 5/16" staples = for my staple gun. A wee bit cheaper than a corbin seat huh? Mike V 89 bike, and=20 try to close the trunk, the plastic trunk cover will come right down = onto the=20 seat where you just added foam.  The stock seat is fit perfectly so = the=20 plastic just clears it, so if you add foam to your seat end, you can = only fill=20 in the middle 2/3rds and allow the trunk to close without a hitch.  =

 
And yeah, It looks good.  Total Cost: $2.04, = for a box of=20 5/16" staples for my staple gun.   A wee bit cheaper than = a=20 corbin seat huh?
 
Mike V
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 02:15:39 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: Buford Some time ago, a file was given that contained a picture of a motorcycle that was decked out to look like a steer,,horns and all. I had saved it but guess when I had my crash, I lost it...does someone still have that saved and would send it to me.. Thanks Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" To: Subject: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 06:50:38 -0400 Adrian: There is a new 1998 PC800 here in Troy, NY on the showroom floor of the local Honda dealer for $5999!!! Saw it the other day when I was picking up some supplies. The dealership is uncaring and arrogant, but it sounds like a lot of Honda shops are suffering from this trend. If anyone else is interested in directions or information, please let me know at my personal email. By the way, I met a few other PC800 riders this past Tuesday, Wednesday at Americade. I was hoping that they would email me their snail mail addresses since my powers of recollection are failing me once again. The ones that I remember are: Frank from Philadelphia? Greg Wells from Brockton (And his brother-in-law with the shiny Blue Wing!) A gentleman and his wife from Michigan??? ( saw them getting their Corbin seat installed, and felt good that the "bolt from hell" wasn't just an issue that I had.) Greg, Frank, Doug and I got together for some eats and some tire kicking at the diner in Lake George on Tuesday night, but where was that Don Mackie??? I took a few photos, and will post them after I scan them in here at home. If anyone wants a real nice 35mm film/slide scanner, Hewlett Packard makes one called the Easy Photo Scanner and it retails for $400.00 at Office Max. It was really neat seeing all the PC800s at the rally, most of the bikes I saw were of the 1996 and up variety, but we did see a few 89s, 90s, and a 94? (black and white). From looking around at the rally there seem to be a lot more PCs than I thought, so if anyone knows other riders in the New England area that aren't computer savvy, add them to the list using their snail mail address for reference. I noticed that almost all the bikes I saw had the stock Honda windshields installed with the SAENG stealth edging. Had a piece put on mine and it does seem to improve the envelope, but it is truly hard to judge the real value with the high winds we've had in the week since we had tornadoes here in New York! Love to hear some opinions from the new people that had the edging installed... Have a great weekend, and talk soon. Jeffrey A. Guntert jeffguntert@taconic.net retrofit@taconic.net Petersburg, NY 1996 PC800 4,446 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 07:27:15 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 07:26:42 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: The Fossil's Social Security number To: HondaPacificCoastOwners A recent posting referred to my Social Security number as being so old th= at it only had seven digits! The writer was correct...I have nine, but the first two don't count...The= y are zero...zero! When I was a youngster...a long time ago...I can remember telling folks that inquired about my age that I was "going on eleven"...not two weeks past my tenth birthday! However, I quit doing that foolishness a long tim= e ago! The mid-point of my life occurred when my mother quit taking me into the ladies' restroom! It's been downhill for me ever since that time! I know that I am old because I don't know anyone older than me who is sti= ll alive! Dana P.S. I am 64 years young...! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Dyno tested anyone ?? Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 14:39:38 +0200 Dynojet graphic PC800 on this page: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/mod-torque-hp.htm Rgds, Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@Cybercomm.nl - > "Torill Janne Knutsen" writes: > > __I am importing 2 PC 800 , both 1989 models to Norway. Some part of the > > import tax are on the Horsepower. Since Honda never have quote any and I > > finally got the custom auttorities to agree on that a Dyno test will be > > sufficient, does any one of You ever tested it? > > If so would You please be so kind to E-mail me a copy of the test or send > > it by "snail mail". > > Cycle World, July 1998, page 28, "Powered by a liquid-cooled, sohc, > three-valve-per-cylinder V-Twin that makes just shy of 50 rear-wheel > horsepower..." > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David Shumaker" To: "Pc800 list (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: FW: Information Please Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:07:30 -0700 Importance: Normal I e-mailed Clearview for information on their PC800 shield. Here is the reply. Dave Dave Shumaker Puyallup, Washington '97 Pacific Coast, " Red Peppers" -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Craig S [mailto:clearview@bwellnet.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 2:01 PM To: David Shumaker Subject: Re: Information Please David, Thanks for your inquiry for the New PC800 windshield. We have developed a screen that exceeds the stock height by +1",+3",+5" all of which are +2" wider on each side. The price is set at $130.00 For the 1 and 3 inch options, and $140.00 for the +5" option. I'm sorry no photos yet. PLease call or email me with any additional questions. Current lead times are at two weeks production. Thanks again Craig ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Shumaker To: Clearview Shields Subject: Information Please Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 11:38 AM Hello, I'm the owner of a '97 PC800. I've heard that you have developed a shield for the Pacific Coast, and I'd like to know more about it. Currently, I am using the stock Honda shield with Stealth Edging. It work OK, but I'd like to pursue a better solution. My contact information is as follows: E-mail: kd7yd@sprynet.com S-mail: David F. Shumaker 14721 116th Ave. Ct. E. Puyallup, Washington Fax: (253) 770-3770 Phone: (253) 848-7587 C-phone/Pager (253) 307-3626 Thanks, Dave -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 08:54:54 -0500 To: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" , From: Doug Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 Love to hear some opinions from the new people that had the edging installed... I tried the edging, 4' of it, around entire Rifle sheild,,saw little if any difference,,wind noise was the same as far as i could tell...used it 2- 12 mile trips and sent it back for refund..Maybe i did not give it a chance, don't know but sure did not think i was geting my $40 + shipping worth,,but the next guy will tell u he loves it...so guess it's all in the installation Doug At 06:50 AM 6/7/98 -0400, Jeffrey A. Guntert wrote: >Adrian: > >There is a new 1998 PC800 here in Troy, NY on the showroom floor of the >local Honda dealer for $5999!!! Saw it the other day when I was picking up >some supplies. The dealership is uncaring and arrogant, but it sounds like >a lot of Honda shops are suffering from this trend. > >If anyone else is interested in directions or information, please let me >know at my personal email. By the way, I met a few other PC800 riders this >past Tuesday, Wednesday at Americade. I was hoping that they would email me >their snail mail addresses since my powers of recollection are failing me >once again. > >The ones that I remember are: > >Frank from Philadelphia? >Greg Wells from Brockton (And his brother-in-law with the shiny Blue Wing!) >A gentleman and his wife from Michigan??? ( saw them getting their Corbin >seat installed, and felt good that the "bolt from hell" wasn't just an issue >that I had.) > >Greg, Frank, Doug and I got together for some eats and some tire kicking at >the diner in Lake George on Tuesday night, but where was that Don Mackie??? >I took a few photos, and will post them after I scan them in here at home. >If anyone wants a real nice 35mm film/slide scanner, Hewlett Packard makes >one called the Easy Photo Scanner and it retails for $400.00 at Office Max. > >It was really neat seeing all the PC800s at the rally, most of the bikes I >saw were of the 1996 and up variety, but we did see a few 89s, 90s, and a >94? (black and white). From looking around at the rally there seem to be a >lot more PCs than I thought, so if anyone knows other riders in the New >England area that aren't computer savvy, add them to the list using their >snail mail address for reference. > >I noticed that almost all the bikes I saw had the stock Honda windshields >installed with the SAENG stealth edging. Had a piece put on mine and it >does seem to improve the envelope, but it is truly hard to judge the real >value with the high winds we've had in the week since we had tornadoes here >in New York! Love to hear some opinions from the new people that had the >edging installed... > >Have a great weekend, and talk soon. > > >Jeffrey A. Guntert jeffguntert@taconic.net retrofit@taconic.net >Petersburg, NY >1996 PC800 >4,446 miles > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 10:25:50 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: David Shumaker CC: "Pc800 list (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Information Please FWIW. The folks @ Clearview are 100% reliable, the BEST... Do business with them, you'll be pleased with the service and the product! a V E R Y satisfied Clearshields Owner, FWIW. -- Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA Check out the 'Ride for Kids' Page http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm Reply address: mailto:bmckenna@mint.net David Shumaker wrote: > > I e-mailed Clearview for information on their PC800 shield. Here is the > reply. > > Dave > > Dave Shumaker > Puyallup, Washington > '97 Pacific Coast, " Red Peppers" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig S [mailto:clearview@bwellnet.com] > Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 2:01 PM > To: David Shumaker > Subject: Re: Information Please > > David, > Thanks for your inquiry for the New PC800 windshield. We have developed a > screen that exceeds the stock height by +1",+3",+5" all of which are +2" > wider on each side. The price is set at $130.00 For the 1 and 3 inch > options, and $140.00 for the +5" option. I'm sorry no photos yet. PLease > call or email me with any additional > questions. Current lead times are at two weeks production. > > Thanks again > > Craig > > ---------- > From: David Shumaker > To: Clearview Shields > Subject: Information Please > Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 11:38 AM > > Hello, > > I'm the owner of a '97 PC800. I've heard that you have developed a shield > for the Pacific Coast, and I'd like to know more about it. Currently, I am > using the stock Honda shield with Stealth Edging. It work OK, but I'd like > to pursue a better solution. My contact information is as follows: > E-mail: kd7yd@sprynet.com > S-mail: David F. Shumaker > 14721 116th Ave. Ct. E. > Puyallup, Washington > Fax: (253) 770-3770 > Phone: (253) 848-7587 > C-phone/Pager (253) 307-3626 > > Thanks, > Dave > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: first big ride/rain/darien pants Date: Sun, 7 Jun 98 09:44:55 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: "pc 800 list" Fellow PC'ers' Yesterday was a day of firsts for me....I took up riding last summer after a 20 year break...and since I am not a poor college student anymore, bought a new PC this spring (still looking to sell the 78 750 I bought last summer)..so on with the story, I rode in the local (Green Bay WI) ride for MDA along with about 1500-2000 other riders, most of whom were on Harleys...only saw one other PC...a guy from Menasha WI who rode up to me under a gas station canopy to escape the rain for a bit, a man of few words..."nice bike" he says...he told me it was his third PC .a few observations... I think I was the only one without leathers, well....one other guy had a roadcrafter suit on( and quite a few Green Bay Packers jackets, but that is nothing new! :) ), but with my bright blue Darien Jacket and my red bike, I sure stood out. In fact, as we were leaving Green Bay, my girlfriend was playing golf on a neighboring course and saw me from a quarter of a mile away in the crowd of leather and harleys...(I was the quiet one!) It was fun, but a bit odd to be a bit different from the crowd of riders. I stayed nice a dry in my darien jacket and pants. I just got the pants the day before and was warm and dry all day in spite of cool temps and rain. It was also my first experience riding in a prolonged rain and felt pretty good. Up until now, I was able to avoid it. Also, I was surprised at the amount of beer drinking before and at the middle of the ride stop in Suring WI...not all the riders for sure, but enough. The bars seemed to be full when we stopped. So, it was fun and I am looking forward to more group rides, it just seems the local Honda folks don't organize rides like the HOG chapters do. It would be nice to ride in a more mixed crowd..but I guess we PC'ers just have to get used to it! Also considering longer rides since I was able to handle the rain ok.... so, for those of you who are old hats at this, please forgive my newness at some things and writing about it...but it is fun to be having new experiences! Later, Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 06:50:38 EDT." <01bd9202$1bb3ccc0$01010109@BUBBA.LOCAL> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 14:10:33 -0500 "Jeffrey A. Guntert" writes: > Adrian: > > There is a new 1998 PC800 here in Troy, NY on the showroom floor of the > local Honda dealer for $5999!!! Saw it the other day when I was picking up > some supplies. The dealership is uncaring and arrogant, but it sounds like > a lot of Honda shops are suffering from this trend. I visited 4 Honda dealers Friday. Quite a range of responses. $7.6k for a '98, $7k for a new '96 or a '97 with 18k miles at one dealership. No stock at another but could order a '97 for $6.5k. Next would knock off $900 from their SRP of $8699, plus tax. Another has no stock but quoted nearly the $6k figure above for a '98. Told them to get it for me. Sometime this week! It doesn't appear Honda dealers have discovered the Information Age yet as they have a heck of a time keeping up on current prices. Then again they may know whats going on and simply want to pocket the difference. How does one haul a PC800 on a trailer? Haven't tried it yet but if I can't get a ride to the dealer I'll have to haul my new baby home on my trailer. Doesn't look like the tradional tie down points on the handlebars will work. Plastic trim on the handlebars plus the fairings. Is there a tie-down point under a cover somewhere? Or up the fork legs? Surely Honda didn't design a bike that can't be hauled. But then again it was designed in Marysville wasn't it? Their first motorcylce design? For the rear one could use the hand-hold for a tie down. Wouldn't like that but the rear tie downs don't do as much work as the fronts. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gaffneydp@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:31:14 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fwd: PC800: Clearview Windshield --part0_897251474_boundary The website for Sport Touring Accessories is: www.dnet.net/~pemble I do not know if you can order through it though. Their phone number is: 800-889-5550 I was told that the windshield is available in lengths (measured from the top of the vent cutout) of one inch increments from 21" to 26". The stock Honda windshield is approximately 21". I was told it is available in three tints: light grey, dark grey and bronze. I ordered a 26 incher in light gray. I am 6' 4" tall, but if the windshield is too tall, I figure it can always be cut down. Please reference Francois's note of 6/7 also; he has the windshield already. --part0_897251474_boundary Content-disposition: inline air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v43.25) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:21:58 -0400 by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA25334 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:21:57 -0400 (EDT) with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 3272900 ; Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:22:06 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:22:44 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: Gaffneydp@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield Dennis, Can you post he address to order a Clearview shield? What sizes are available? What about tinting, how many different grades? I assume it just mounts in place of the stock shield and does not require a new base like the Rifle - is that correct? I'm sure many members are anxious to hear more about this shield. Thanks. Scot '89 PC800 --------- Gaffneydp@aol.com wrote: > > I attended the trade show at Americade yesterday and took a look at the > Clearview windshield made for the PC800. According to the Sport Touring > Accessories rep, it is about two inches wider than the stock Honda windshield > and the angle of attack is such that the top of the windshield will be about > three inches back from where the stock windshield is. The sample I saw had no > optical distortion in it. > > The Clearview is made out of Lucite as opposed to Lexan (Honda). I believe > Lucite is "softer" than Lexan. It is available in different lengths and > tints. The price is $130 (shipping included - six dollars for tinting). > > I ordered one and was told that I should have it in two weeks. > > I would appreciate seeing comments, etc. from anyone else who has seen or > purchased one of these windshields. > > Thanks, > Dennis > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. --part0_897251474_boundary-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:02:12 -0400 To: Bill McKenna , David Shumaker From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Information Please Cc: "Pc800 list (E-mail)" At 10:25 AM -0400 6/7/98, Bill McKenna wrote: >FWIW. The folks @ Clearview are 100% reliable, the BEST... >Do business with them, you'll be pleased with the service >and the product! > >a V E R Y satisfied Clearshields Owner, FWIW. >-- >Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA > I agree with Bill. Clearview is a great company to deal with, but not the only one! I bought my clearview shield from Rob Pemble at Sport Touring Accessories. It was $130. I think that is the normal selling price, regardless of source. If you are looking for a shield, call Rob (1-800-889-5550) and find out when he is going to be at a show in your area, or a show you are going to, and he can make sure to have one for you. I've bought a few things from Rob, and have always been very satisfied with the overall shopping experience. The folks at Sport Touring Accessories are good people! Ride safe.. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:31:58 -0400 From: radrider To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: Gaffneydp@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview Windshield Francois, I was at Americade Monday Thru Wednesday. I held your shield up against my tall Hondaline to try to compare but I really couldn't. Because it sits back further you really can't compare. I liked the way it curves out for the control levers instead of just cut away like the Honda shield. It seems to me a lot of the noise is from wind around the sides so this is an improvement. I have a tall Honda shield which has had one inch removed from the top which allows me to look over the top from a normal riding position. What height Clearview would duplicate this considering it's angle? If I knew the angle I could figure it out. The easy way would be to call Clearview I guess. Stan 97 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:39:09 -0400 From: radrider To: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 I noticed that PC in the window on my way home from Americade. Stan 97 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:55:35 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: David Shumaker , "Pc800 list (E-mail)" Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Information Please Agreed. I bought my ECC from Rob. Good people! B Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > At 10:25 AM -0400 6/7/98, Bill McKenna wrote: > >FWIW. The folks @ Clearview are 100% reliable, the BEST... > >Do business with them, you'll be pleased with the service > >and the product! > > > >a V E R Y satisfied Clearshields Owner, FWIW. > >-- > >Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA > > > > I agree with Bill. Clearview is a great company to deal with, but not the > only one! I bought my clearview shield from Rob Pemble at Sport Touring > Accessories. It was $130. I think that is the normal selling price, > regardless of source. If you are looking for a shield, call Rob > (1-800-889-5550) and find out when he is going to be at a show in your > area, or a show you are going to, and he can make sure to have one for you. > I've bought a few things from Rob, and have always been very satisfied with > the overall shopping experience. The folks at Sport Touring Accessories > are good people! > > Ride safe.. > > fsl > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA Check out the 'Ride for Kids' Page http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm Reply address: mailto:bmckenna@mint.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:57:10 -0400 From: "Gordon B. Frank" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 The tie downs are the best! Take off the crash covers and you have your tie down bars waiting for you. GBF in Atlanta ------- David Kelly wrote: > > "Jeffrey A. Guntert" writes: > > Adrian: > > > > There is a new 1998 PC800 here in Troy, NY on the showroom floor of the > > local Honda dealer for $5999!!! Saw it the other day when I was picking up > > some supplies. The dealership is uncaring and arrogant, but it sounds like > > a lot of Honda shops are suffering from this trend. > > I visited 4 Honda dealers Friday. Quite a range of responses. $7.6k for > a '98, $7k for a new '96 or a '97 with 18k miles at one dealership. No > stock at another but could order a '97 for $6.5k. Next would knock off > $900 from their SRP of $8699, plus tax. Another has no stock but quoted > nearly the $6k figure above for a '98. Told them to get it for me. > Sometime this week! > > It doesn't appear Honda dealers have discovered the Information Age yet > as they have a heck of a time keeping up on current prices. Then again > they may know whats going on and simply want to pocket the difference. > > How does one haul a PC800 on a trailer? Haven't tried it yet but if I > can't get a ride to the dealer I'll have to haul my new baby home on my > trailer. Doesn't look like the tradional tie down points on the > handlebars will work. Plastic trim on the handlebars plus the fairings. > > Is there a tie-down point under a cover somewhere? Or up the fork legs? > Surely Honda didn't design a bike that can't be hauled. But then again > it was designed in Marysville wasn't it? Their first motorcylce design? > > For the rear one could use the hand-hold for a tie down. Wouldn't like > that but the rear tie downs don't do as much work as the fronts. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VCI09005; Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:11:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: TURN SIGNALS From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:11:01 EDT 1) Is there any way to disable the "automatic off" feature on the turn signals. It goes off before I'm ready or won't stay on as long as I need...at least 80% of time! 2) There must be some easy way to effect this because it APPEARS that Arizona has passed a law that NO CAR can be sold WITH operable turn signals. Ann annreid@juno.com Sun. 6.7.98 16:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VCJ09005; Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:11:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: SEAT SKINS From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:11:01 EDT SEAT SKINS REVISITED: 1) As I mentioned previously, I had my seat cut down 3" in Sturgis two years ago....'cause I'm sooo short (on one end). 2) Ever since, my biker budd has complained that it's like a cheap hotel. i.e. No Ballroom. It's his job to move it when I'm forced to tread on deep, loose gravel and other objectionable (to me) surfaces and/or back it uphill. *WHIMP-IS-ME* 3) I found a cure that may (or may not) benefit others in this situation. a) I bought a gel pad from J.C.Whitney. It velcros to a single strap that hooks under the seat's edge. Easy install...even for me, Ms. Klutz. That wasn't enuf and it didn't let my bum breathe. b) I fashioned a white sheepskin (bargain priced at Laughlin, NV, Thunder Across the River this year) and attached it to the passenger's panic handles plus one small piece inside the gas door. Big improvement! But it still wasn't as comfortable as when it was whole. c) I'd previously had an ancient, well-used (abused!), FREE sheepskin from a GoldWing that I'd modified to fit the PC. The fur is pretty compacted ... especially since a cat christened it while parked at a friends, and I had to wash it "468" times to redeem it. I have that attached with sturdy straps that have quick release claspses like on fannypacks. 4) The points here are: a) It is VERY comfortable, breathable for long road trips....NOW. b) It has received an upgraded hotel rating. c) Each of the 3 add'l layers are easily and quickly releasable when I need to REALLY get my feet on the ground. d) It isn't as bulky or unsightly as one might think from my description as only the top sheepskin is visible. e) For me it is the best of all worlds. And, yes, I do have a regular stock seat for it in the UNLIKELY event I ever sell or trade her. She only has 35,000 miles. Just barely broken in. THE END ... GO BACK TO SLEEP! Ann annreid@juno.com Sun. 6.7.98 16:50 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:34:58 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:34:17 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Retail price ? for the PeeCee... To: HondaPacificCoastOwners It seems that some dealers are keeping it a secret about the recent $2,00= 0 price reduction of late-model PC800's. Although each dealer is free to set the selling price, the suggested reta= il prices are (as close as I can remember): 1996's (probably all gone by now) - $5,999. 1997's - $6,499. 1998's - $6,600. The fact that even the current year models (98's) are reduced mak= es me wonder if we are seeing the last of the Honda Pacific Coast. Sigh................. I just bought a '97 Pacific Coast from Champion Honda in Charleston, Sout= h Carolina. It had 700 miles on it, as the previous owner had traded it bac= k = in on a Gold Wing. I paid $5,500 for it. The point of all this is...if yo= u are in the market for a Pacific Coast, be aware that Honda has reduced th= e prices on new '96, '97 & '98 Pacific Coasts by approximately $2,000. Some= dealers are giving further price reductions. And...if you have a friend looking for a bike...make certain that he/she knows about this! I'd hate = to see someone gouged unfairly by a dealer! Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:51:23 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Donald Mackie Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 Jeff: At 06:50 AM 6/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >Adrian: > >There is a new 1998 PC800 here in Troy, NY on the showroom floor of the >local Honda dealer for $5999!!! >Greg, Frank, Doug and I got together for some eats and some tire kicking at >the diner in Lake George on Tuesday night, but where was that Don Mackie??? That Don Mackie had to return to VT before 5:00 (in a rain shower)to take care of some unavoidable personal business. I really did want to meet some of the PC folks (although I did briefly meet Frank from PA earlier and he did mention the PC gathering). Sorry. Incidentally, on the way up to VT on late Monday afternoon my two fellow riders and I damn near T-boned a moose as we came over a rise on Rte 30 between Jamaica and Bondville. Just think, Americade's first casualty could have been a PC... >It was really neat seeing all the PC800s at the rally, most of the bikes I >saw were of the 1996 and up variety, but we did see a few 89s, 90s, and a >94? (black and white). Yea, there were quite a few PC's in attendance. Riding through the manufacturers' demo ride area at Roaring Brook Ranch Tuesday I overheard one bystander crack "looks like a pregnant red Vespa". Undoubtedly spoken by a crotch rocketeer on his way to the chiropractor... I had a chance to demo several of the new Boxer Beemers. What a gas! The Beemer demo is a class act like no other, runs well over an hour (40+ miles)into the countryside and bike switching is encouraged. Our group of about 15 was lead by sultry Beth in her full leathers. At one point on a long, beautiful stretch of back road we surely gave a slow moving hay truck driver heart palpitations as we passed at 90. I should add that the PC is smoother than the 3 Beemers I drove, but then again the Beemers were great handlers all (especially at high speed)and when you grabbed a handful of throttle you knew you had 1100 cc's working down there. I found the fuel injection grabby though, making low speed control something to concentrate on. BMW could also learn a few things from Honda et al about handlebar control ergonomics (the side stand has to be up to start the engine? Wha?) My Harley friend ("real men drive Harleys") insisted we try the Buells. Short demo lines, surprisingly, and after my teeth stopped rattling at idle the demo leader took us on a short (20 minutes) ride onto and around I-87. This machine is not for the faint of heart. Superb handling. Explosive acceleration. Incredibly sensitive 6 piston calipers. If you want one make sure your health insurance is in good order. > >I noticed that almost all the bikes I saw had the stock Honda windshields >installed with the SAENG stealth edging. Had a piece put on mine and it >does seem to improve the envelope, but it is truly hard to judge the real >value with the high winds we've had in the week since we had tornadoes here >in New York! Love to hear some opinions from the new people that had the >edging installed... > Jeff, the ride up and back from Americade gave me lots of time to consider the merits of SAENG edging on my '96 PC. Conclusions, which should be no surprise: yea, it works modestly well and may adequately substitute for a larger screen if you're not too picky and no taller than 6 feet. Buffeting, at least in my case, rises to the very top of my helmet. However, the stock screen is insufficiently wide or angled improperly (both?). Any turbulence from vehicles ahead or windy conditions seems to come in from the sides as much as the top, negating edging benefits to a significant degree. Back pressure is also much more noticeable with the SAENG edging. I took a look at the Clearview prototype screen at the Sport Touring Accessories booth. Looks interesting. Certainly wider, and has control grip bulges to the sides. I would guess that it would add two inches in height to the stock item. No distortion to speak of. Fastens using existing hardware. I also had the pleasure to converse with the gentleman (from Kentucky I think) who makes the Throttlemeister. This is a labor of love for him and the Throttlemeister is a beautifully constructed piece of equipment. Too bad it's so expensive ($120). To make up for the missed PC date I'd be happy to host a weekend gathering in VT if there's any interest from PC'ers out there. Let me know folks... >-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:09:51 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Atlanta Ride for Kids Coasters: Well me and the S.O. are truly into it now! We did the Atlanta Ride for Kids today. Us and over 2000 other bikers. To sum it up....MIGHTY FINE! For you mid westerners.....Real Neat! And for you California Coasters.....Way Cool, Dude! We met at a mall on the North side of Atlanta. They had donuts and beverages. There was lots of walking around and looking at each others bikes. Everything from a Helix or two to a V-8 car engined trike. As for PC 800's I saw one of each type and or color. I met two other riders. Once you were in line you could not move to get together, though. The ride was up a limited access highway, GA400, till it ended and two lane roads to Helen, GA. Helen is a a German motif village in the GA mountains. They had a lunch bags and a ceremony in a big tent. One biker raised over $8000!!!! They gave away a Gold Wing! We didn't win :( The weather was magnificent -- blue skies and temps in the seventies! (Down from the 90's during the week!) I really hope that my PC didn't keep any of the HOG riders from hearing the engines to tell when to shift. Initially we were along side a Harley that must have had power amps in line to be so loud! He finally got impatient and moved up five riders. I learned real quick to shift with the tach, since we couldn't even hear our motor. The ride home was nice and peaceful. Total miles: 175, exactly 50 MPG. We can't wait till next year! Pat McNew 1996 PC800 P.S. Mary Jane????? What happened to you? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 23:18:36 -0400 To: Donald Mackie , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Dreaming about the pc800 At 9:51 PM -0400 6/7/98, Donald Mackie wrote: >To make up for the missed PC date I'd be happy to host a weekend gathering >in VT if there's any interest from PC'ers out there. Let me know folks... >>-- > I'd be very interested in this. I really enjoyed the roads around Americade this year. Perhaps we could organize a covered bridge tour or something of that nature? I'm available for a get together in New England. Keep me posted! fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "HPCE Gerard" To: "Franz Verheij" , "Jos Kurvers" , "Piet Lagemaat" , "PC800 friends" Subject: PC800: 1998 model of Pacific Coast Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:21:10 +0200 Dear friends, There have been some talk about Honda continueing the PC800 for 1998, yesterday I got a guest book entry from David Kelly in which he says that he will take delivery of a 1998 PC800 within a few weeks. I asked him if he was sure about it and this is what he wrote back: > Well, maybe somebody is pulling my leg, but Friday I think I saw one. > When you look up between the front forks and a silver plate has bold > black letters saying, "1998", its a 1998 model, right? :-) > Saw others that said 1996 and 1997. > > For some reason just now I felt guilty. As if I was looking up a proper > lady's skirt when reading model years. > > Am expecting my 1998 PC800 this week. $6250. > > Color is red over black. Saw one next to a 1997. Didn't go into great > detail as to comparing exact colors but I believe 1997 and 1998 are the > same. Am not color blind and would generally expect to have picked up > quickly on a color difference. So could this be the sign that Honda will continue the PC800? Best regards, Gerard Pacific Coast Europe Gerard Diepeveen, email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:36:55 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: TURN SIGNALS Hi, Ann: you wrote: <<1) Is there any way to disable the "automatic off" feature on the turn signals. It goes off before I'm ready or won't stay on as long as I need...at least 80% of time!>> I believe the only "safe" (read, nondamaging) way to defeat the autocancel is to disconnect the speed sensor connection on the back of the speedometer (white connector: white/black and green/black wires). With that disconnected, the signal computer thinks the bike isn't moving and should, therefore, leave them blinking as it does normally when you're stopped for a light. On the other side of the coin, the autocancel works very well for me, and I can't imagine your needing them to stay on longer than designed. Above 35 mph they stay on for about 7 seconds, which is more than enough to signal and complete a lane change. Below 35 mph, they stay on until you've traveled between 100 and 150 yards after you've made some steering deflection. That's plenty unless you're turning them on way too soon for normal turns in traffic. In short, they are a good safety feature, and FWIW I recommend that you leave them functional and adjust your signalling habits a bit instead. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 228 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:53:59 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Ride for Kids Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:54:10 -0400 Importance: Normal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone on the list here participated in the Ride for Kids in Columbia, MD? If so, I have a question I'd like to ask you off list. Many thanks. Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNXvC0h+YC0eKA/vCEQKtJQCfZ1/0PNmzruwYdfwoS7/57brBM5MAoIgI NX8C6ZyWdhgoOvE6YaUWM/gr =A11s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:14:56 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: kurvers@dsv.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pce@dsv.nl, plcs@dsv.nl, verhfh@gironet.nl Subject: Re: PC800: 1998 model of Pacific Coast "HPCE Gerard" writes: > > Dear friends, > > There have been some talk about Honda continueing the PC800 for 1998, > yesterday I got a guest book entry from David Kelly in which he says that > he will take delivery of a 1998 PC800 within a few weeks. > I asked him if he was sure about it and this is what he wrote back: > > > Well, maybe somebody is pulling my leg, but Friday I think I saw one. > > When you look up between the front forks and a silver plate has bold > > black letters saying, "1998", its a 1998 model, right? :-) > > Saw others that said 1996 and 1997. Dealer said Wednesday or Thursday. Looks like I'll have to borrow a digital camera and post the VIN plate on the web. :-) The PC800 email list has had other reports of 1998 PC800's including on Sunday one New York dealer advertising $5995, and earlier an Indiana dealer at $6500. Possibly Honda built a run of '97's and didn't "title" them until they ship? I don't know what the rules are in that case. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 8 Jun 98 8:19 PDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 98 08:18:18 -0800 From: Brent Rasmussen To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at sjca.ddc.dla.mil Subject: PC800: thanks Thanks everyone for responding to my message for help. I received several responses from PC you PC owners giving me advise on my starting problems. As it turned out, the problem was the stupid operator (myself) who didn't think to check the battery cables. One was a little loose. Problem solved. Several of you mentioned the stator as a possible problem. I did find out that it had been replaced by the previous owner, so my bike was not exception in that department either. Too bad Honda won't own up to this fact. Thanks again, Brent -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bsnyder@enter.net (Brad Snyder) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: drivetrain noise Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:27:07 GMT On Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:27:11 -0400, Scot Piper wrote: >Has anyone ever coasted in neutral at about 10-15 mph with the engine >off and listed to the drivetrain? Sometimes I shut the engine off as I >coast into the driveway and have noted some drivetrain noise. Not bad, >I don't think. Perhaps just a little unexpected for how quiet the rest >of the bike is. If you want to hear a really bad noise from the drive train, put the bike on the center stand and start it and put it in first gear and let it spin the wheel at idle. All kinds of clanking noises come from the drive train, at least on my bike. I tried this because I thought that the shaft drive was a little too noisey when deaccelerating. Later. . . . . . .. Brad -- Brad Snyder - bsnyder@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~bsnyder -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GBalthaser@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:15:33 EDT To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: NEW MEMBER NAME: GLENN C. BALTHASER LOCATION: HAMBURG, PA. EMAIL: GBALTHASER@AOL.COM PC MODEL YEAR: 97 BOUGHT: NEW 4/28/98 MODIFICATIONS: HONDA ACC.'S: BACKREST HIGH WINDSHIELD LIGHT KIT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:17:38 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Various 1-800 M/C-related phone #'s From the For-What-It's-Worth Dept: Here are some 1-800 nimbers I pulled from a "yellow pages of 800 #'s", under the heading of Motorcycle - Supplies & Parts. There were 75-80 listings but a lot were individual dealers. These sort of stood out from the rest. No mention of Saeng or Clearview or some of the others we talk about on the group, so if anyone wants to add to the list, we could maybe come up with a good reference section for the archives. For what it's worth: Aerostitch Riderwear 800 222-1994 American Cycle Transport Services 800 526-8429 Chaparral-mailorder 800 841-2960 Dennis Kirk 800 328-9280 Fremont Cycle Salvage and Accessories 800 424-5588 Markland Industries 800 872-6256 Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse 800 241-2222 Motorcycle Recyclers 800 201-3366 Pacifico Products (Vetter/Pacifico/etc) 800 547-8273 Precision Plastic Products 800 245-3774 Saber Cycle 800423-4974 Tires Unlimited 800 628-4737 Patrick in La. '97 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:38:24 EDT To: rar205@sundial.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Trunk Question! In a message dated 98-06-05 22:18:20 EDT, rar205@sundial.net writes: << It just does not seem to have enough upper support for the passengers back. Can anyone shed any light on this situation? The only other choice that I can see is the Givi backrest that comes on the trunk. I am not happy with putting another trunk on the bike but I guess my options are limited in this subject area. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. >> My sentiments exactly. My 11 y/o kiddo is my primary passenger, and I wanted to be sure he had enough support. That backrest looked awfully FAARR to the rear. Here's what I did. Hardware store. 6 foot length of strap aluminum (3/4"X1/8", $6.00), 4 screws, washers, nuts to match the holes on the Honda welded-on arms. Vise, drill, bits, pliers. Cut 2 pieces approx 18-19" long. Bent them (together, to keep identical angles/lengths) in the vise to form 2 paralellograms (slightly-squashed rectangles). Drilled holes for the orig. Honda screws to mount the back rest on one of the long sides of the paralellogram, and holes on the other long side for the new screws (to match the holes in the welded-on arms). Took some fitting/bending/fiddling (the aluminum is stiff but workable), and now the backpad is 2" further forward and about 1-1/2" higher. Fits up in kiddo's lower back instead of against his hips. Spouse-type-person likes it too. A little trimming of the vinyl flap is necessary, but not a big deal. I could have painted them black while I was at it, but kinda got on a roll to see how it'd work. Patrick LeRay '97 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 19:56:15 +0200 Welcome to the list GLENN ! Original introduction ; ) Try hitting CapsLock once, sometimes typing in capitol letters is interpreted AS SHOUTING !! : ))) (sorry, couldn't resist..) Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@Cybercomm.nl ---------- > Van: GBalthaser@aol.com > Aan: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Onderwerp: PC800: NEW MEMBER > Datum: maandag 8 juni 1998 19:15 > > NAME: GLENN C. BALTHASER > LOCATION: HAMBURG, PA. > EMAIL: GBALTHASER@AOL.COM > PC MODEL YEAR: 97 > BOUGHT: NEW 4/28/98 > MODIFICATIONS: HONDA ACC.'S: BACKREST HIGH WINDSHIELD LIGHT KIT > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:40:25 -0500 To: PLeray@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: Re: PC800: Givi Trunk Question! Had the same problem, so took a piece of 1/4 plywood..cut it 6" longer than the original , making sure the bottom portion was the same configuration as the original. Bolted a piece of 1"x 8" ( i think) strapping (the kind already drilled and counter sunk) up the middle of the outside side.Drilled holes to match the welded supports, and inserted T nuts in rear of plywood, bought 4 stainless steel metric 5/8" bolts to replace the original. got them longer because i wanted to put lock washers on. Took the board to a seat cover shop, with the original backrest so he could see what i wanted..$30 for custom made cover and foam rubber Whole thing cost about $35. and quite sturdy..Sounds like alot of work, really quite simple and dosen't take much time...about, 1/2 hour to shape plywood. Maybe this will give u an idea if not want to do it the same Doug 94 Knight Rider At 01:38 PM 6/8/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-06-05 22:18:20 EDT, rar205@sundial.net writes: > ><< It just does not seem to have enough upper support for the passengers > back. Can anyone shed any light on this situation? The only other choice > that I can see is the Givi backrest that comes on the trunk. I am not happy > with putting another trunk on the bike but I guess my options are limited > in this subject area. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. > >> > > My sentiments exactly. My 11 y/o kiddo is my primary passenger, and I >wanted to be sure he had enough support. That backrest looked awfully FAARR >to the rear. Here's what I did. > > Hardware store. 6 foot length of strap aluminum (3/4"X1/8", $6.00), 4 >screws, washers, nuts to match the holes on the Honda welded-on arms. Vise, >drill, bits, pliers. Cut 2 pieces approx 18-19" long. Bent them (together, >to keep identical angles/lengths) in the vise to form 2 paralellograms >(slightly-squashed rectangles). Drilled holes for the orig. Honda screws to >mount the back rest on one of the long sides of the paralellogram, and holes >on the other long side for the new screws (to match the holes in the welded-on >arms). > > Took some fitting/bending/fiddling (the aluminum is stiff but workable), >and now the backpad is 2" further forward and about 1-1/2" higher. Fits up in >kiddo's lower back instead of against his hips. Spouse-type-person likes it >too. A little trimming of the vinyl flap is necessary, but not a big deal. I >could have painted them black while I was at it, but kinda got on a roll to >see how it'd work. > > Patrick LeRay > '97 > > > > > > > > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 8 Jun 1998 18:48:22 UT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: xj-owners@micapeak.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:38:15 -0500 Subject: PC800: Ron Ayres is on a journey to visit all 48 contiguous states by motorcycle in 7 days. It started Sunday night and so far he has visited 12 states. To follow his journey go to www.ronayres.com Later Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:41:30 -0400 To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Atlanta Ride for Kids Pat, sounds like you had a great time. Wish I had been there but my SO had me consumed with preparations for incoming family. My consolation prize is a trip to Tenesee this coming weekend. They're gonna cage it while I PC it! TTYL, MJ Pat McNew wrote: > Coasters: > > Well me and the S.O. are truly into it now! We did the Atlanta Ride for > Kids today. Us and over 2000 other bikers. To sum it up....MIGHTY > FINE! For you mid westerners.....Real Neat! And for you California > Coasters.....Way Cool, Dude! > > We met at a mall on the North side of Atlanta. They had donuts and > beverages. There was lots of walking around and looking at each others > bikes. Everything from a Helix or two to a V-8 car engined trike. As > for PC 800's I saw one of each type and or color. I met two other > riders. Once you were in line you could not move to get together, > though. > > The ride was up a limited access highway, GA400, till it ended and two > lane roads to Helen, GA. Helen is a a German motif village in the GA > mountains. They had a lunch bags and a ceremony in a big tent. One > biker raised over $8000!!!! They gave away a Gold Wing! We didn't win > :( The weather was magnificent -- blue skies and temps in the > seventies! (Down from the 90's during the week!) > > I really hope that my PC didn't keep any of the HOG riders from hearing > the engines to tell when to shift. Initially we were along side a > Harley that must have had power amps in line to be so loud! He finally > got impatient and moved up five riders. I learned real quick to shift > with the tach, since we couldn't even hear our motor. The ride home was > nice and peaceful. Total miles: 175, exactly 50 MPG. > > We can't wait till next year! > > Pat McNew > 1996 PC800 > > P.S. Mary Jane????? What happened to you? > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:13:36 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Ron Grant Story On Way Howdy! Ron Grant has sent me another beautifully written installment of his Central / South American odessy to post to the list, but unfortunately it was garbled with binary data. I have asked for a plain text version of it, so stay tuned. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:55:56 +0200 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: HPCE Gerard Subject: PC800: Unknown picture of PC800 Dear friends, I got a picture of a red PC800 with white flames (see link below), but I don't remember from who I got it, I lost the message, please if you know who's PC800 it is or if it's yours let me know so I can post it on the PCE web site. http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/flame.jpg Thanks. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe Email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Phone: +31-651220230 (mobile) -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:14:50 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:14:25 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Dreaming About the PC800 Donald Mackie wrote: >To make up for the missed PC date I'd be happy to host a weekend gathering >in VT if there's any interest from PC'ers out there. Let me know folks... I second this motion. I rode VT route 9 from Brattleboro to Bennington on the way to Americade and route 30 on the way back. Great rides, but wait until the summer returns, it was cold both ways! I rode up dodging the tornadoes on Sunday arriving at Roaring Brook about 10:00 pm. I spent 4 or 5 hours waiting out the rain and wind at two different locations. Hoosick Falls may not have any trees left judging from the ones on the ground. Listening to the hams on 2 meters really helped keep tabs on where the really nasty weather was. Anyway the first thing I saw at Roaring Brook was the BMW semi-trailer which had "Does Riding in a Hard Rain Qualify as Bathing?" painted on the side. How appropriate since I was soaked even with rain gear on. The shower in the room was definitely warmer. I saw lots of PC's while up there but missed the gathering. I was out of town a week and half before Americade and hadn't kept up with the plans. There must have been a lot of us, by Thursday you couldn't but a set of tires for the PC either at the tour expo or the local Honda Dealer. I will be ordering a new set promptly. The tire discussion on this list has been very informative. I think I will buy the Metzler ML2's. While I'm buying stuff I may get a clearview windshield. The wind noise was a lot more bothersome to me this trip than it has been in the past. I probably thought it was normal until I started reading the PC list. All you guys that get one, please let us know how you like it. I expected to ride a bunch of bikes this year, all the beemers were parked outside of my room (if you saw the PC parked with the demo beemers, it was me) but I was hardly ever at Roaring Brook, there is just too much other good stuff to do. I did ride a Bandit1200. Lot's of power, and it wants to go fast like right now. Real Brill Cream throttle response "a little dab'l do ya". Takes some getting used to since I've never had another bike than the PC. (to that other thread... the PC makes a good first bike, but take the MSF course FIRST! I didn't and had to buy some new pastic when I went down with 75 miles on it, but that's another story) Oh, well another June another Americade. Too bad I can't do Americade and the Hoot in the same year. regards Mark Venable '90 PC800 "This End Up" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:17:25 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:17:08 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Blue PC at Americade Anyone know who owns the blue PC that was at Americade. Saw it several times but never got to meet the owner. Very nice paint job! What year is it, and who painted it for you. Mark Venable '90 PC800 "This End Up" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dawn Wells" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Trip to Vermont Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:32:05 -0400 Don, A ride to Vermont sounds great. Perhaps Mass. riders could = group up and ride out together. Post a time and see what happens. = Greg = Wells = 97 = PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:30:53 -0400 To: "J. MARK VENABLE" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Blue PC at Americade At 4:17 PM -0400 6/8/98, J. MARK VENABLE wrote: >Anyone know who owns the blue PC that was at Americade. Saw it several times >but never got to meet the owner. Very nice paint job! What year is it, and >who painted it for you. > >Mark Venable >'90 PC800 "This End Up" Hi Mark. I assume you are talking about the light blue over dark blue two-tone PC? I also saw that PC a few times. It did look pretty good. I noticed that the tail trunk had a mural painted on it, and the artist had signed the mural, as 1990. I would then assume that the bike is either an 89 or a 90. Either way, it did look pretty good. ride safe everyone.... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil To: pc800list Subject: PC800: Vermont! There are not many prettier places around than in Vermont! Count me in as a very definite maybe! (As work, and family commitments allows). Had a great time at Americade last week. Interesting seminars, fun demo ride...o...and the comic relief provide by the comedy team of Greg (aka Dawn) and Doug at the diner...with the waitress...hope to see you all again in Vermont. _______________________________________ - Frank Cook - fcook@erols.com 1990 Pc 800, 12,300 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:54:49 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Gas Mileage Hello everyone. I don't want to start up the whole mileage thread again, but I did want to let everyone know that I seem to be getting great mileage with my '95 PC800. I live in Canada, where gas is sold by the litre, but my PC is from the US and therefore records distance by the mile. Basically, I don't keep track of my mileage. Last week I went to Americade, and so I could easily calculate my miles per US gallon. I stayed off of the Interstates when travelling to and from Americade, and I used the I-87 at night only when returning from Lake George to my hotel in Ticonderoga. The rest of the time was spent riding the beautiful curving roads of 9N, and the roads of NY and VT on the Six Lake Loop guided tour. My mpg's never dropped below 50, except on one stretch of road from Long Lake north to Tupper Lake, where we were really moving. We were following an ST1100, who was riding two up and had a radar detector. We would hit 85 on the straights, and about 55-70 in the corners. I was really impressed with the way the PC handled at that speed on this winding road. I was shifting alot to keep the bike in the powerband since the ST1100 was really moving, and I needed any help I could to keep up as he powered out of the corners. On that fill-up my mpg's dropped to about 41. For those of you that want to compare the mileage stats, I have a 95, with about 6,000 miles on it, with the Clearview shield and Saeng edging. The trunk was full, I'm about 6'1", 34" inseam, and weigh in close to 225 dressed with the Aerostich, helmet, etc. bye for now...and ride safe everyone. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:41:45 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: TieDown update Gordon B. Frank wrote: > The tie downs are the best! Take off the crash covers and you have your > tie down bars waiting for you. This is NOT a good place to tie off, front wheel may move around & cause ties to loosen. Also, the tie off point is too low to be stabile. > David Kelly wrote: > > Is there a tie-down point under a cover somewhere? Or up the fork legs? > > For the rear one could use the hand-hold for a tie down. Wouldn't like > > that but the rear tie downs don't do as much work as the fronts. To adequately transport any motorcycle, the handlebars MUST be tied down, imobilized. This is what holds a bike up. Tying down the rear of the bike has little to NO effect. Do not count on tying the rear to help much. The PC can be tied down several ways- Cheaper-> removing the handlebar covers (small phillips screws hold them on underneath) will expose the bars. Use the "loop" end of an extended loop tiedown to go around the bar and hook the hook into this. As you leave the bar going down to the trailer / truck bed tie down, the strap may rub on the fairing. I have padded this with a thick soft cloth (washcloth folded over & over the strap). One strap on each handlebar end is all that's need to secure the bike. Don't pull the straps so tight that they compress the forks too much. An inch or so is fine. Otherwise you risk blowing the seals as you ride. The idea is to imobilize the front wheel. *Better way is to use a product from "Canyon Dancer" that harnesses from grip to grip with tie offs hanging off each grip, leaving enough clearance to clear fairing. About $30. and worth it. I've transported bikes a lot in pickups and this is the best way I've found so far. Canyon Dancer 2040 Stoneybrook Drive, Red Bluff, CA USA 96080 Phone (916) 527-7926 Distributes harness for towing bikes Please forgive the length of this, but I wouldn't want anyone damage a machine or themselves by trailering it incorrectly. Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:48:53 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: New jacket! Douglas Ford wrote: > The tags and the Motoport catalog stamp the > Canyon as a waterproof jacket. Anyone have any other experience with that? My Canyon stayed completely waterproof for about 3 months of daily rain (4,000 mi) last summer , and now only springs a leak in heavy rain after about 1 hr. It seeps in the zipper vents at the sides and the crooks of my elbows where water pools as I ride. I Love it. (and the GREAT liner) -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:59:57 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: TieDown update <357B36E6.7542@ibm.net> At 18:41 6/8/98 +0000, Bill wrote: >This is NOT a good place to tie off, front wheel may move around & cause ties to >loosen. Also, the tie off point is too low to be stabile. Bill, this is eactly where Honda recommends to tie down the PC, using al four crashbars. > To adequately transport any motorcycle, the handlebars MUST be tied down, >imobilized. This is what holds a bike up. Tying down the rear of the bike has >little to NO effect. Do not count on tying the rear to help much. Not true. You can tie down the PC with all four crash bars and the wheel won't move if there is enough tension to keep it moving from up and down on the suspension. Good surface friction helps, of course. To secure the front wheel the best and most secure way is to use a front-wheel chock or have it in a rail. I do recommend the ratchet type tie-down so you get enough tension on the straps. > The PC can be tied down several ways- > Cheaper-> removing the handlebar covers (small phillips screws hold them on >underneath) will expose the bars. Use the "loop" end of an extended loop tiedown >to go around the bar and hook the hook into this. As you leave the bar going down >to the trailer / truck bed tie down, the strap may rub on the fairing. This works, but careful. We've all heard the stories of handlebars being bent and kinked because of too much tension. You can also make loops and tie them around the triple clamps, coming out on both sides of the front wheel. > Canyon Dancer Never tried them, but have heard nothing but good things about them. If you choose this route, make sure you get the originals. Several knock-offs are around of lesser quality. "...the secret of realizing the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment of existence is: to live dangerously!" -Friedrich Nietzsche --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:12:07 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Emile Nossin CC: GBalthaser@aol.com, PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER He may have been extra glad to be here and wanted everyone to know. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:25:38 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: TieDown update <357B36E6.7542@ibm.net> <3.0.2.32.19980608145957.006ff7b8@jarvis.ims.uaf.edu> Juan,
    I've seen several PC's damaged already when owners used Honda's recommendation. Don't know if it's operator error, but it always seemed the points were too low to be suitably stable. I've tried this the first time I trans'd mine and wasn't too confidant. Maybe bikes move around too much this way.
    Good point about the handlebars being bent or turned down, seen this too. I usually use the triples on older bikes if high enough. I also don't know distances people need to transport. My needs are usually over 50 mi or so (dealers for repairs, cust. delivery)
    >I do recommend the ratchet type tie-down so you get enough tension on the
straps.
    If front of bike is secured sufficiently,  a lot of tension isn't needed. It's usually a case of too much as opposed to too little when damage occurs (blown seals, bent bars, misaligned tubes) A good motorcycle tie down will work fine. Strap integrity is as important as cinch design. Beware of "stretchy" thinner straps and be sure to check load rating.

    Just my thoughts, no disclaimer ;)

Peace, Bill
 
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:42:48 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: FYI:Canyon Dancer Motorworld Review  of canyon dancer harness (29.95)
 MOTORWORLD Product Test
 Handlebar Harness
--
Peace and All Good, Bill
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TzD09005; Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:58:34 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jtsmcrider@aol.com, jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: TURN SIGNALS From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:58:34 EDT Hi Jim and JT, 1) My signals do NOT stay on indefinitely when I'm stopped at a light. That's one problem. Another is when I'm trying to cross 4-5 lanes of traffic on the frwy...to get to the safety of the carpool lane. They cancel way too soon; 7 seconds is rarely enuf. Our drivers covet their lane position and can be overly protective of it. [My favorite bumper sticker being, "Cover Me, I'm Changing Lanes!"] I get my best inner-city frwy concessions when I wear cop-like clothing on my white PC, wearing my Police helmet. I think I could do even better if I mounted a hairdryer on the front! *HEH HEH* 2) My hands may be smaller than yours 'cause it's not easy for me to keep the clutch in and depress the turn signal repeatedly at same time. 3) I've been used to turning my own signals off for a long time and rarely forget to cancel after turn. Just sort of want the option/choice to be mine. Thanks for responding ... keep those cards and letters coming. Ann annreid@juno.com Mon. 6.8.98 14:25 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:59:19 -0500 From: Steve Delorey To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New old member Hi again, I've been a list member in the past but had to log off for a while. Glad to be back. Name: Steve DeLorey Location: St. Louis, MO Email: sdelorey@mo.net PC Model year (if you have one): 1990 Bought Used/New: Bought used in '95 Modifications made to bike: It has the tall Honda windshield. Steve DeLorey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4173800 ; Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:06:10 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:06:47 -0400 From: Scot Piper CC: jtsmcrider@aol.com, jrandall@tricon.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: TURN SIGNALS My favorite bumper sticker so far is "keep honking, I'm reloading".... Scot '89 PC800 -------- Our drivers covet their lane position and can be overly protective > of it. [My favorite bumper sticker being, "Cover Me, I'm Changing > Lanes!"] I get my best inner-city frwy concessions when I wear cop-like > clothing on my white PC, wearing my Police helmet. I think I could do > even better if I mounted a hairdryer on the front! *HEH HEH* > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Cory" To: "Pc800 list (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: '94 VFR750F still for sale Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 22:56:44 -0400 Sorry for the repeated posts, but I'm still trying to sell my '94 VFR. I've found a '90 PC that's in perfect condition and am ready to make the switch. Get with me at this e-mail address, I'm ready to deal! Cory HSTA Membership Director -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) 9 Jun 1998 03:03:36 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:59:28 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: FYI:Canyon Dancer To: Bill Snead , pc800@hpc.uh.edu boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BD9317.F1C396E0" I have it, works great. Mike V Stockton CA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Snead To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:43 PM Subject: PC800: FYI:Canyon Dancer =20 =20 Motorworld Review of canyon dancer harness (29.95)=20 MOTORWORLD Product Test=20 Handlebar Harness=20 --=20 Peace and All Good, Bill=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send = "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To = report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. message to=20 majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to=20 pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) 9 Jun 1998 03:18:18 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:15:01 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: PC800: Stock Seat Modifications To: PC800 email boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD931A.1DF3ED80" As I mentioned yesterday, I modified my stock seat and trimmed some foam = from the passenger seat as to make more room to move around (or squirm) = on. Today was the first real ride testing it out.... =20 1. Definitely more room to move about. Nice to be able to do that. =20 2. A sore butt is a sore butt. Does not eliminate that one. While I can = reposition myself and relieve some of the soreness, it still is there... = Oh well... Mike V -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Bumar" To: Subject: Re: PC800: TieDown Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 22:48:59 -0400 The definitive tie-down answer: Last year I trailered the PC ( I feel ashamed for admitting that!) from = Orlando to Asheville and back. I bought a set of handlebar harnesses = from Competition Accessories (CA) and used them in the front. They = performed flawlessly. The straps are connected together by 2" nylon = webbing and fit over your handgrips. They interlock, i.e. the left = strap is connected to a harness on the right handgrip and it passes = through the harness on the left handgrip. (I hope that makes sense) = When the harness is cinched down, the front fork compresses nicely and = they are held securely. Just make sure that the front wheel doesn't = turn (either by a strap or a wheel channel.) I used soft hook = extensions on the back, which I also purchased from CA and I used some = soft pipe insulation to keep the straps off of the paint. The whole = setup worked very well. =20 The only problem I had was when I was putting the bike on the trailer, = when I first rode the bike onto the trailer, I neglected to make sure = the kickstand was securely locked before I got off. When I did, the = bike fell over and the rails on the trailer caught it and kept if from = falling over. Unfortunately, the rail cracked my left vent cover and = scratched the paint on the left side of the trunk. The new vent cover = cost me $110. I got out the scratches with rubbing compound. I can = honestly say that I hadn't been that pissed off in a long time. BTW, the number for Competition Accessories is 1-800-543-5134. The = handlebar harness is $23.99 and it comes in red, black or blue. The = stock numbers are 17-0315 and 17-0316, depending on color. The soft = hook extensions are $5.88/pair and the stock number is AN-LS. I don't = work for them, but I have bought several things from CA and the quality = has been good. It takes about 2 weeks to receive orders, though, which = is kind of a long time. Hope this helps, Rich Bumar '96 PC800 11,00 mi. the stock=20 number is AN-LS.  I don't work for them, but I have bought several = things=20 from CA and the quality has been good.  It takes about 2 weeks to = receive=20 orders, though, which is kind of a long time.

 
Hope this = helps,
 
Rich Bumar
'96 PC800
11,00 = mi.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Steve Wilson" Cc: , "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: New memeber : WELCOME !! Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:55:04 +0200 You may be right. No reason to bash on enthusiasm. WELCOME GLENN !!! Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@Cybercomm.nl -> He may have been extra glad to be here and wanted everyone to know. > > -- > Steve Wilson Ruston LA. > > Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care > > Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer > 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck > > Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 > 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, > and too many other options to list. > (My Wife might see!) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:50:52 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: TURN SIGNALS Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:48:47 -0400 Hi all, On a related note to both Ann & Scot's writings, one of the best bumper stickers I've seen in a while is: " Forget World Peace, Visualize Using Your Turn Signal! " Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 2500+ Grand Rapids, MI -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper My favorite bumper sticker so far is "keep honking, I'm reloading".... Scot '89 PC800 -------- Our drivers covet their lane position and can be overly protective > of it. [My favorite bumper sticker being, "Cover Me, I'm Changing > Lanes!"] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: I rode with the Harley's Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 07:20:20 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: "Honda Sports Touring Assoc." , "pc 800 list" Last saturday, I rode with about 2 thousand harley guys and gals on a ride for Muscular Dystrophy..II think I only saw about a dozen bikes that were not HOGS...mine was the only quiet bike. Also rode in the rain for the first time for an extended period...I was dry with my new biker clothes...all those guys with leather got wet. It was fun.... Lot's of Harleys in Wisconsin this week, the group from the east coast came through town yesterday and were in Green Bay last night. They had quite the party for them near Lambeau Field...I took the day off yesterday and rode through Door county (put on 270 miles, my longest in one day on a bike), so I did not see them come through town..but the streets were lined with folks waving at them. I guess I'd rather ride than wave, besides, I saw plenty of hogs on Saturday.... Thought you'd like a report from Hog Heaven...Wisconsin. Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: I'm stuck! Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:15:01 -0700 I have terrible ignition noise from my PC into my radio. Anyone with some experience solving this one? I've tried a filter capacitor on the power line and multiple RFI chokes (my cables to my radio now look like bracelets!) :-). No luck at all.... I'm thinking of replacing the ignition cables but want someone to give me some hope first :-). > Harrison Spain > Unigraphics Solutions GTAC Systems Support > Tel: 714.952.6114 > Fax: 714.952.5371 > E-mail: spain@ugsolutions.com > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:12:25 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Ron Grant Tour, Part H for Honduras HONDURAS HIATUS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ After such an easy exit from El Savador I was expecting similar quic= k treatment from the equally relaxed entry station to Honduras , but it was here that I learned the =93rule=94 of Central America border crossings. No matter how much/little traffic , they always take the same amount of time!! With hardly any vehicles to process at this station , the paper-stamper had gone to town to visit his girlfriend. No worries , a mere 2 hours later , he returned! Well I was correct about the roads, after crossing they were MUCH better, great smooth sweeping curves. So much better, given my information re the Honduras economy, I was soon saying to myself -=94surely the USA Army Corps of Engineers built these!=94 No traffic....no $$$, what else could be the explanation?? In any case, my idea received reinforcement as I came around corners every so often to find the perfect road just disappeared, it had collapsed and there had been little or no attempt to fix. It looked like a project with a GIANT original budget but absolutely no follow up. After a while I came to realise the collapsed portions tended to be + or - 5 k. from a town, where the traffic was heavier, but I was often unable to cruise comfortably without two fingers covering the brake lever. The roads here though were through magnificent mountains, and on this weekend were virtually empty. As dusk fell I arrived at the relatively unvisited town of Santa= Rosa de Copan. I stopped by the side of the road at the entrance to town. When I pulled out my guidebook to see the way to Centro , a local man asked if he could help, in ENGLISH! We immediately struck up a conversation , and I expressed how surprised I was to find an English speaker , so much by chance, in this town. Adolfo told me he lived in Tulsa , Okalahoma and worked for Sinclair Oil , and was in town as his wife was now living here with his young son. I would later have a long talk with Beatrice , and hear interesting ideas on the desirability of living in the USA. After directing me to the cheap Hotel district of town , Adolfo invited me to his house later that evening , to meet his family. I was determined to pursue this chance friendship , as I really lament the difficulty of good conversation with the locals when travelling in countries where I can=92t speak the language fluently. I did not want to mis= s this opportunity ! Not only did I spend a pleasant evening with Adolfo , but luckily my hotel did not have a good place to do washing, so I turned that into an excuse to go around the next morning , and had a long talk with Beatrice , also. What an interesting situation. They were both natives of the town , and had moved to the USA 10 years previously to take advantage of the economics of full employment, something impossible in Santa Rosa. Six months previously , Beatrice had had enough of the loneliness and family deprivation of such a life , and had insisted on returning home to Honduras. They had bought a small house , acceptable by local standards but certainly a slum dwelling compared to their USA domicile. Family , though was very much around , as I certainly noticed when I started explaining in my precise =93teacher=94 manner the use of my = GPS satellite positioner to their 8 year old son. All and sundry were summoned for a look as the =93white motorcycle stranger=94 drew diagrams of the earth and had Manuel doing his first math calculations in months! I soon realised we had a great photo opportunity ,which I can now remember fondly with the snap of four generations standing proudly in the brightly colored but sparsely furnished living room. Beatrice summed up the situation succinctly to me as I did my washing . =93Look at how we live here,=94 she said. =93We = have nothing, the place is a dump, and yet I really think I prefer it. I am always visiting with friends and family , in the USA we just sit and eat and watch crazy TV programmes!=94 I had planned to head for the North Coast, maybe even to go to= Roatan or Utila for some diving, but in retrospect this turned out to be a judgement error. As I made the turn that would take me out of the mountains and down to the flat Caribean coast I could plainly see a large cumulous cloud build up, but pressed on regardless. Ha ha...I was to have the next week of almost solid rain, the only serious rain of the 2 month trip! My www research had led me to believe I would find a good Spanish Language school in one of these towns also, and I was quickly realising that adding more language skill would tremendously enhance trip enjoyment. I spent a week in the towns of Tela, La Ceiba and Trujillo.....didn=92t find the good school, gained a LOT of wet gear, and decided none of those places were really good spots to hang around in. Dumps, really, and if there was any place in C.A. that had a certain air of =93looking over your shoulder=94 for crime about i= t, it was this area. I did have some good times in these towns, though, and most of them were associated with firecrackers! In Tela I had spent the first night in an edge of town Hotel, being unwilling to chance getting lost after dark in a town about which I had already received several crime warnings. The next morning I decided to have breakfast at a guidebook recommended cafe, and decide there to stay or push on. I shared a table with Tommy, a =91backpacker=92 from upstate New York, travelling with his still sleeping 14 year old nephew. He assured me that the family run Hotel he was staying at in the city center was quite safe, so I accompanied him back and took a room for the next two nights. On meeting his nephew, Aaron, I was quite impressed when I learned that Aaron, not Tommy, had planned and instigated the trip. As we sat on the balcony overlooking the street, he told me how at the age of twelve he had decided he wanted to go on a =91rough=92 type trip, and had pulled out a world map t= o have a look. He rejected Europe as =91too tame=92 and Australia as =91too fa= r=92, but central America was =91just right.=92 He took a paper route and started cutting lawns to save money, and he related how the trip was delayed a year when he weakened and bought a fancy stereo and a snowboard. When he eventually had the $2000 saved, he then had to find an adult to =91escort=92 him, and here he had another hurdle. Dad was just too scared, as many Americans would be at the prospect of a series of $5 Hotels in suspect countries. One Uncle had been to Mexico, but only on package tours, and Aaron rejected him as being unsuitable for the nature of journey he had planned. Finally he struck it lucky with Uncle Tom, who had backpacking experience and seemed to me to be like many of the genre, with a =91just giv= e me any excuse and I=92m off,=92 attitude. It was the week between Christmas and the new year, and as in El Salvador, most nights were centring on firecrackers. Of course Aaron really wanted to stock up as in his area of the USA such toys were outlawed. As we walked to the outskirts of town where the temporary firecracker shops were set up, I realized I had forgotten my camera, but thought it unlikely that anything worth a snap would occur. Wrong, wrong, wrong, again! I missed three GREAT photos that night. We rounded a corner, and there on the roadside was a dog chewing on a horse=92s head! Actually the light was dim, and we discussed whether it was a horse or a cow, in any case not your average =91pet photo!= =92 Then as I was waiting for Aaron to make his selection from the shop, I noticed a stream of dilapidated vehicles with trailers coming out of a vacant lot and organising on the nearby street. It was only when I saw the small car pulling a caged flat trailer that I realised the Circus was leaving town. In this small 2 meter square cage were two very large and dejected looking Cheetahs, and a crowd quickly gathered for a gawk! A few minutes later an unbelievably loaded down small truck pulled up in front of the firecracker store. It=92s bed was so completely filled with boxes of firecrackers that the tailgate was open so that more boxes could be loaded on, and the entire load had been wrapped in plastic to keep off any rain. The edge of the open tailgate was running six inches off the ground, at rest, that is. To cover all the precious cargo the driver had wrapped even the truck=92s tailights, and I could easily see the road scene in my mind. Picture that truck winding down the potholed road in the dark, dodg= ing and weaving to protect his cargo from pothole induced road shock. Picture vehicles advancing from the rear without a hint of his presence. Picture one small mistake. Picture Krakatoa! Well we stocked up on =91crackers, and had a great evening blowing t= he street in front of the Hotel to Kingdom Come on a budget. Aaron had bought a bagful of 140db bangs for seven bucks! And yes, I did get a personal crime story out of Tela by leaving an old pair of gloves in my motorcycle=92s top box overnight. The next morning they had disappeared. I later met an American traveller that had a better story. As she and two friends were walking to the same breakfast cafe that I had used, at 9:30 am, they were approached by three teenagers on bicycles. Just in front of them the boys dropped their bikes on the street and each pulled out a pistol and robbed them. A bit unsettling and apparently the experience did not make for such a great breakfast. My best crime story comes from La Ceiba, where I visited a very plea= sant rooftop bar to watch football on the cable TV. A few weeks later I ran into a Canadian resident in Nicaragua, and exchanging stories, he mentioned that he knew the owner of that bar and that he had moved down from a small town in Ontario. =93Ah yes,=94 I remarked,=94 I remember the Canada flag decal on= the refrigerator.=94 Well did you here about what happened in that bar a month ago! Did you see the bar-b-que at the entrance? Well 3 black Hondurans( Carib people) came in one night, and after some heavy drinking one guy went over to the meat and started rubbing the meat and licking his fingers. Well the bar owner noticed this, approached and told him he would have to pay for the meat as no one else would now buy it. An argument ensued, and the owner soon went down the steps and got his armed security guard to come up to eject the guy. Quicker than a flash the offender whips out a pistol and kills the guard with one shot, then bolts down the stairs. Bar owner goes to his own pistol behind the bar, and can see the runaway through the open area between bar and roof, and succeeds on hitting him with 3 shots as he ran, but not killing him. The cops came, and now the bar owner is in trouble =91cause shooting a gunman as he runs away is not really self defence. Ah, no worries, more is to happen. The next day the family of the dead guard go to the hospital and finish off the =93bad guy=94 right there i= n his bed!! Fun and games, eh??? To finish off the tale...my friend told me it cost the bar owner $10 000 to get out of the legal wrangle, and he is still not exactly in the best books with the families of the 2 dead guys! To emphasise the =93lawlessness=94 of Honduran society, he also told me that shooting one below the waist is a =93nuisance=94 call to the cops, there, li= ke a fender-bender with under $500 damage.....they refuse to answer the call! The locals know it, too, and if there is an argument in a bar a guy is just as likely to whip out a gun and shoot you in the leg! But I thought this was a MOTORCYCLE trip story....so time to get= back on track! Once off the coast and back inland I was back into mountains, and more magnificent riding. My favourite town was La Esperanza, to get there I had to climb to 8000 ft., down almost to sea level, then back up to 5000 ft., all in a 70 km. ride on perfect blacktop with no other traffic! I stayed in town with a local family,who although far from rich had a lovely =91compound=92 type home with a lush garden inside the house walls. But even the best towns in Honduras tended to be fairly broken up, with a large number of dirt and dusty streets. Again, in retrospect if I had one C.A. country to =93miss=94 it would be Honduras, I=92m afraid I have even more cr= ime stories, and myself saw 3 handguns casually carried around, when never in my life anywhere else had I seen ANY! Also the armed guard is of course a feature of many C.A. stores and businesses, but it was in Honduras where I saw 6 with rifles and shotguns as regular posting to a SINGLE bank. For me it was fine, and I had no problem, but the same things can be seen in other places without the =93crime aura.=94 Next....to Nicaragua! - 30 - Ron Grant in Brisbane , Australia!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: New oil and plugs! Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:20:07 -0700 Based on a recommendation on this list, I replaced my oil with Mobile 1 15-50 synthetic. Everything seems to be OK (I seem to recall some warnings against using synthetics but I have no real facts saying don't do this so...). I can't say it shifts any better than when I ran my "normal" Hondaline 10W40 stuff. I also replaced my spark plugs with split fires (they run about $8 each so they aren't cheap!). The old plugs came out a light brown (lookin' good) but with the new plugs it does appear to run better. I suspect a lot of this is just wishful thinking since the PC800 always runs like a watch but thought I would report the results :-). > Harrison Spain > Unigraphics Solutions GTAC Systems Support > Tel: 714.952.6114 > Fax: 714.952.5371 > E-mail: spain@ugsolutions.com > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:01:06 EDT To: m.vervelde@mci2000.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stock Seat Modifications Mike and Cindy, I know, quite well, the "sore butt" syndrome. My girlfriend (now wife x 12 yrs) and I did a tour once, and I rode back into town sitting on a pillow!!! Bought it at a discount store on the trip!! 3 days on a stock GoldWing saddle was ENOUGH! You might try the options that Ann Reid just posted about gel-pads and / or sheepskins. Years ago I made my own "sheepskin". Any big fabric store will have acrylic "fur" and some velcro. A true sheep-origin wool job is probably better in some respects, but is really expensive. The acrylic make- your-own version works just about as well at letting our skin breathe and distributing the weight a bit more, is washable, and comes in colors. Some bicycle-seat gel pads look to be close to the size/shape of the pc's flat saddle top. I may look into that option also. Patrick in La. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:12:58 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:52:52 -0600 From: David Clark To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: TieDown update >>> "Juan A. Goula" 06/08/98 04:59PM >>> Bill, this is eactly where Honda recommends to tie down the PC, using al four crashbars. Not true. You can tie down the PC with all four crash bars and the wheel won't move if there is enough tension to keep it moving from up and down on the suspension. Good surface friction helps, of course. To secure the front wheel the best and most secure way is to use a front-wheel chock or have it in a rail. I do recommend the ratchet type tie-down so you get enough tension on the straps. This works, but careful. We've all heard the stories of handlebars being bent and kinked because of too much tension. You can also make loops and tie them around the triple clamps, coming out on both sides of the front wheel. Juan, For Goldwings, Honda and GWRRA recommends not using the crash bars. They are not very stable. The recommended way is to tie to the triple clamp as you mentioned using the soft tie (loops at both end) and use the passenger hand grips after wrapping them with a towel. The ratchet ties or regular ties will work. If using the regular tie downs be sure to tie off the loose ends to help minimize the chance of a premature release. Use to see it a lot with the motocross bikes. David Clark Logan, UT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray@AOL.COM Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:20:06 EDT To: Emile@CyberComm.nl, deere@linknet.net Cc: GBalthaser@AOL.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New memeber : WELCOME !! Glen, Welcome to the group. I just saddled-up with these folks a couple of months ago and, while trying not to be gushy about it, this is a fine collection of people. It difficult these days to find ANY group, discussing ANY topic, that doesn't have at least 1/3 of 'em certifiable nut-cases or screwballs. This bag of folks doesn't! (Well,.........maybe a couple aren't bolted down real snug?) By the way, everyone, doesn't our long-suffering MAJORDOMO coordinating- type person deserve a small round of applause? Seems it's a fair amount of effort to moderate this group. "clapclapclapclapclapclapwhistleclapclapclap". Patrick in La. '97 Thumper Rabbit -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:33:24 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Stock Seat Modifications I have found the biggest change in riding comfort was when I got OFF my ass and started doing regular exercise. I didn't choose an exercise specifically for the bike but perhaps, uh, butted into one accidentally. I do step areobics twice a week, which specifically pumps up your glutes. Made a difference between being able to ride comfortably for a few hours, to all day. Your, uh, mileage may vary. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:07:11 -0700 From: Bob Anundson To: PC800 Mail List Subject: Re: PC800: I'm stuck! Spain, Harrison wrote: > > I have terrible ignition noise from my PC into my radio. Anyone with > some experience solving this one? I've tried a filter capacitor on > the > power line and multiple RFI chokes (my cables to my radio now look > like > bracelets!) :-). No luck at all.... > > I'm thinking of replacing the ignition cables but want someone to give > me some hope first :-). What helped my CB was drawing power direct off the battery through a relay switch. However I notice my Walkman picksup ignition noise which probably means that resistor plugs or wires would help. It really got bad when I wore and connected my heated vest. The wires in the vest acted as an antenna Bob > > > Harrison Spain > > Unigraphics Solutions GTAC Systems Support > > Tel: 714.952.6114 > > Fax: 714.952.5371 > > E-mail: spain@ugsolutions.com > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bob Anundson 8768 SW Iroquois Dr. Tualatin, OR 97062 503 692 2841 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. envelope-from (jrandall@kpt1.tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:01:51 -0400 (EDT) From: James R Randall To: "Spain, Harrison" cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: New oil and plugs! Harrison, in a separate post you complained of ignition noise in your radio. It would be a shame if this were the case, but you might want to be sure the splitfire plugs aren't causing the problem. I can tell you from experience that Champion plugs cause more ignition noise than NGKs or Autolites in the PC. Perhaps the same is true of the splitfires. On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Spain, Harrison wrote: > Based on a recommendation on this list, I replaced my oil with Mobile 1 > 15-50 synthetic. Everything seems to be OK (I seem to recall some > warnings against using synthetics but I have no real facts saying don't > do this so...). I can't say it shifts any better than when I ran my > "normal" Hondaline 10W40 stuff. > > I also replaced my spark plugs with split fires (they run about $8 each > so they aren't cheap!). The old plugs came out a light brown (lookin' > good) but with the new plugs it does appear to run better. I suspect a > lot of this is just wishful thinking since the PC800 always runs like a > watch but thought I would report the results :-). > > > Harrison Spain > > Unigraphics Solutions GTAC Systems Support > > Tel: 714.952.6114 > > Fax: 714.952.5371 > > E-mail: spain@ugsolutions.com > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:30:18 -0500 ; Tue, 9 Jun 98 12:30:11 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Gilb" To: Subject: PC800: New Member Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:30:02 -0500 Steve, welcome back to the list. Always glad to see another St. Louis resident on board. Let's see, that's three of us now so that should cover all of the PC sold here in the last 5 years ;-). Mark Gilb 95 PC800 (the batcycle) Arnold, Mo. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Eyrich" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Saeng Enging - Was: Dreaming about the pc800 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:14:54 PDT I added the edging last week and went on a long (300+) mile ride last weekend. My experience is that the edging DOES make a difference. at less than 55MPH it is very noticeable. Beyond that it still helps but not quite as much. I do not have as much noise and can actually hear the engine now when I ride. I did notice that it seemed to create somewhat greater back-pressure on my helmet. Overall I'm pleased with the investment and it makes the bike look really cool. -Greg >> Love to hear some opinions from the new people that had the >edging installed... > >I tried the edging, 4' of it, around entire Rifle sheild,,saw little if any >difference,,wind noise was the same as far as i could tell...used it 2- 12 >mile trips and sent it back for refund..Maybe i did not give it a chance, >don't know but sure did not think i was geting my $40 + shipping worth,,but >the next guy will tell u he loves it...so guess it's all in the >installation >Doug > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:38:44 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Clearview , again I thought I would let everyone know about something that I noticed with my Clearview. I suspect that the Rifle owners here have noticed this before, but not the stock shield owners. Last night I was driving home through a residential area, with my face shield open, at about 35 mph, and I heard something that I have never heard before on my PC800, at least not while moving. I heard the turn signal relay clicking! I continue to be really happy with this Clearview shield. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:49:54 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Tiedowns (last one) Hi all, There's a brief article on tiedowns and transporting bikes in the latest American Motorcyclist (AMA). Their "1, 10, 100 " recommendation for inspection seems a good tip. (1 mile, 10 miles, and every 100 mi thereafter) Hope this gets people ready for the "Hoot" and "AMA Vintage days" if your trailerin' -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA04807; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:41:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com Subject: PC800: FW: New Microsoft ad campaign Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:42:57 -0700 > The classical music buffs may have noted a new TV ad for Microsoft's > Internet Explorer e-mail program which uses the musical theme of the > "Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. > > "Where do you want to go today?" is the cheery line on the screen. > Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus > addictis," translated, "The damned and accursed are condemned to > flames of > hell." > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 19:29:39 -0400 From: RRFoster To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC parts for sale Have the following 89PC parts for sale: 1. headlight assembly 2. complete instrument cluster 21,000 miles on clock/ excellent cond. 3. handlebars 4. complete plastic covering for handlebars minus switches/ excellent cond 5. 2 large pieces of body work that cover side of bike just above foot pegs 6. complete trunk subframe with latch 7. dash piece with speaker cutouts 8. complete front fairing subframe These are all the parts I have, please do not send e-mail asking for other parts. Respond off list please. If you would like to see one of the most radical PC800's on the planet, just send me a note and I'll e-mail you a couple jpg scans. Thanks Randall -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 9 Jun 1998 23:45:35 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC 800" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: PC trade trip! Date: Wed, 10 Jun 98 09:40:16 PDT Has anyone a EUROPE based pc that they would be interested in trading for a trip? I want to tour Europe summer 99 and will trade for similar Oz excursion....anyone done this with pc members before? Ron Grant in Brisbane , Australia!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BobDuWah@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:05:50 EDT To: greg_eyrich@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Saeng Enging - Was: Dreaming about the pc800 Greg, I am considering adding the edging to my shield also, but was unsure if it would work for me. I have the stock shield on a 94PC and I am 6' tall. How tall are you and which shield are you using it on ?? Thanks, Bob Ronecker St Louis, Mo -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFCERM9S; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:22:11 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: PICKING YOUR SEAT...IN PUBLIC From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:22:11 EDT PICKING YOUR SEAT MADE EASY: 1) I bought a white (real) sheepskin at Thunder Across the River Rally in April. $26 with tax. Enuf to make 3 driver's seat covers for PC. Trust me! There is NO SUBSTITUTE for using real sheepskin. Try it, you'll love it. 2) At the local Motor-Sheep stores and Tandy's, you can sometimes buy a not-so-pretty sheepskin at a bargain price and cut away the objectionable part. Regular price for first quality in these stores is about $50. Buy one and share it with a friend...share the cost, too. 3) I paid (with body parts) for the gel pad from J.C.Whitney. $65-ish incl. $10 P&H. 4) The quick-release gizmos with straps are about $2 a pair at Popular Outdoor Outfitters. 5) I can buy dozens of colors and widths of velcro by the yard at a large fabric outlet store here called SAS. It runs anywhere from $1-$3 a yard. Ann '89 PC-MT (MT = EmpTy gas tank) annreid@juno.com Tue. 6.9.98 11:35 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFCERNBE; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:22:11 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RADIO INTERFERENCE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:22:11 EDT Below is my limited experience with audio electronics and my '89 PC. I have only a portable CD player and radio with tape deck that has little ear plugs and runs off two AA batteries. What I noticed: 1) When I kept the TAPE player in the tank bag (tethered to my ear) I would frequently get engine ticking noises depending upon it's position in the tank bag. 2) When I kept TAPE player in a fannypack around my waist, I only got that noise when it got too close to the trap door (gas). 3) When I carried TAPE player in my lower right-side jacket pocket, I had no noise. 4) I do not remember using the RADIO except when parked and the bike was shut down; so I have no RADIO data to report. 5) I carry the CD player in the fannypack almost exclusively and have never had any interference like that. Ann annreid@juno.com Tue. 6.9.98 11:20 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Spain, Harrison" cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: I'm stuck! of "Tue, 09 Jun 1998 07:15:01 PDT." Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 19:34:13 -0500 "Spain, Harrison" writes: > I have terrible ignition noise from my PC into my radio. Anyone with > some experience solving this one? I've tried a filter capacitor on the > power line and multiple RFI chokes (my cables to my radio now look like > bracelets!) :-). No luck at all.... All the above solutions are attempts to keep noise out of the radio. > I'm thinking of replacing the ignition cables but want someone to give > me some hope first :-). Rather than take antibiotics to cure sickness its better not to get sick. Same thing for RFI. Its better not to generate the RFI in the first place. Once generated you are not going to keep it out of your radio if its on the same frequencies the radio is tuned to. Replace the spark plugs first. Make sure you get "resistor" plugs. Spark plugs are cheaper than ignition wires. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) 10 Jun 1998 01:40:46 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:30:45 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: Stock Seat Modifications To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Daniel MacKay writes: >I have found the biggest change in riding comfort was when I got OFF my ass >and started doing regular exercise. I didn't choose an exercise >specifically for the bike but perhaps, uh, butted into one accidentally. > >I do step areobics twice a week, which specifically pumps up your glutes. >Made a difference between being able to ride comfortably for a few hours, >to all day. > >Your, uh, mileage may vary. > >-- >Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca >Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > I have to admit, that is probably the most sane advice... I have always been less sore in any activity when I was in better shape Oh Well Mike V -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:24:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:12:36 -0500 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: K&N update Hi list. I installed my new K&N air filter today. It really does make a difference. Not a whole lot of difference, but I can tell it's there. Throttle response seems to be a lot quicker. I'm pretty sure the old filter was the original. After 19,000+ miles, any filter is bound to make a difference. Installation was a snap. I can strip my PC naked in about 5 min. Once ya do it a few times, it gets a lot easier. I'm still suprised about the price. The Honda dealer wanted $59 for a stock filter. The K&N filter cost me $39.95+tax....**Same price K&N would have charged me** Talk to ya'll later. James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "Spain, Harrison" Cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: plugs!--->Splitfire Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:34:55 +0200 I thought everybody thinking about buying splitfire spark plugs would like to read the following ProMotor magazine article from 1995 I dug up. I translated it out of dutch . **** SPLITFIRE SPARKPLUGS A few months ago an extensive press report arrived per mail about the splitfire spark plugs. In a glossy little booklet all advantages were given about the new revolutionaire candle. ' During independent lab.-testing 10 to 50% cleaner exhaust was measured ' and ' at circuittests performance increases were measured going up to a stunning 11% '. The fuelsaving qualities are also worth mentioning: ' Savings of 5% are reasonable, but savings going up to 20% have been realised .' You realise that we were pretty enthusiastic and immediately ordered a set of spark plugs. these were installed in a Yamaha XJ600 and a BMW R100GS and during 5000 km (3125 miles) the claimed qualities of the Splitfire sparkplug were examined. And the results were amazing. The engine doesn't use less fuel compared with "conventional" sparkplugs. To measure the 'cleaner' exhaust gasses and proclaimed performance increase, we went to the Dynojet testbed of Ruud Fredriks in Goes. On the dynojet the performance and exhaust emmission was measured first with a normal sparkplug and then with the Splitfire. There was no evidence of cleaner exhaust gasses, no more than there was an evident performance increase. So what do we do with the Splitfire ? Little to nothing. A normal sparkplug (ca. $3.25) complies fine and costs considerable less than the Spitfire (ca.$11.00). ********* This article is three years old and still there are people who believe in miracles : ). Prices also changed offcourse as well as the dollar value since then. I hope word goes round as to warn people not to put any more money in this miracle-selling company. To bad about your $8 x 4, Harrison. Emile Nossin '90 PC800 " The Flying Dutchman " Santpoort, Holland Emile@Cybercomm.nl > I also replaced my spark plugs with split fires (they run about $8 each > so they aren't cheap!). The old plugs came out a light brown (lookin' > good) but with the new plugs it does appear to run better. I suspect a > lot of this is just wishful thinking since the PC800 always runs like a > watch but thought I would report the results :-). > > > Harrison Spain > > Unigraphics Solutions GTAC Systems Support > > Tel: 714.952.6114 > > Fax: 714.952.5371 > > E-mail: spain@ugsolutions.com > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: BBrick@packer.edu (Barbara Brick) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:21:41 GMT Subject: PC800: are you out there Juan Goula , can you respond to this note so I can send you a note directly. Many thanks, ------------------------- Packer Collegiate Institute Brooklyn, NY USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "HPCE Gerard" To: "Sabine" , "Piet Lagemaat" , "PC800 friends" , "Jos Kurvers" , "Franz Verheij" Subject: PC800: And now for something completely different!!! Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:50:21 +0200 And now for something completely different!!! Go to http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/randall.htm (may take a minute or so to load, but you've got to see them, or else you missed something ;-) Have fun, Gerard Pacific Coast Europe Gerard Diepeveen, email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:00:08 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: Daniel MacKay CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stock Seat Modifications Daniel MacKay wrote: > > I have found the biggest change in riding comfort was when I got OFF my ass > and started doing regular exercise. I didn't choose an exercise > specifically for the bike but perhaps, uh, butted into one accidentally. > > I do step areobics twice a week, which specifically pumps up your glutes. > Made a difference between being able to ride comfortably for a few hours, > to all day. > > Your, uh, mileage may vary. > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada I must be missing something here. I eat twinkies and then go riding. :> Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:36:01 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: K&N update Hi, James: I too installed a K&N airfilter on my '89 today. As others have reported, it seems to produce a bit crisper performance and a bit more induction noise. We'll see what it does for/to mileage on the way the Hoot. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: plugs!--->Splitfire From: Greg_Torok@mail.oppco.org (Greg Torok, The Opportunity Council) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:54:55 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 List) >This article is three years old and still there are people who believe >in miracles : ). Prices also changed offcourse as well as the dollar >value since then. I hope word goes round as to warn people not >to put any more money in this miracle-selling company. I tried Splitfires in my Nighthawk 650 several years ago. I noticed no change in mileage or performance. I was also annoyed by the fact that in that particular size, the Splitfire required an automotive socket and my 18mm motorcycle plug wrench no longer fit. Greg Torok -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:59:25 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: plugs!--->Splitfire Hi, All: Emile writes: << I thought everybody thinking about buying splitfire spark plugs would like to read the following ProMotor magazine article from 1995 I dug up. . . . The engine doesn't use less fuel compared with "conventional" sparkplugs. To measure the 'cleaner' exhaust gasses and proclaimed performance increase, we went to the Dynojet testbed of Ruud Fredriks in Goes. On the dynojet the performance and exhaust emmission was measured first with a normal sparkplug and then with the Splitfire. There was no evidence of cleaner exhaust gasses, no more than there was an evident performance increase. >> Several of the U.S. motorcycle magazines including MCN have also done tests of the Splitfire plugs. Each has come to the same conclusion. All of their advertising claims notwithstanding, they are simply no better than conventional plugs with respect to any real-world measure. It is all just a bunch of marketing hype. Save your money. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:01:57 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Honda Homecoming Hello everyone. Does anyone know the exact dates of the Honda Homecoming in July? Is anyone going? fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 211 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:13 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Carb sync Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:33 -0400 Importance: Normal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've got over 4,000 miles on my '97 PC now and thought it might be time for a carb sync. Only problem I have with this is that I don't want to pay 200+ dollars to have it done at the shop (last rough quote I received). While browsing around the PC-Europe's website, I found a quick set of instructions that Bryce submitted. Sounds pretty simple to do....even simple enough for me :-) Is the process valid for all model years? Also if someone on the list has a service manual for the '97, can I ask a favor of them to maybe scan the instructions and email them to me? Thanks. Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNX62xB+YC0eKA/vCEQJSiQCfVMzQ2PaBv+yrLVyNXHbxzdEo9ekAn2Yc Q/ZGcS+KaHIJgwamZFLqSG5J =l5PQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: RE: PC800: plugs!--->Splitfire Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:09:44 -0700 >This article is three years old and still there are people who believe >in miracles : ). Prices also changed offcourse as well as the dollar >value since then. I hope word goes round as to warn people not >to put any more money in this miracle-selling company. >To bad about your $8 x 4, Harrison. Oh well :-). I guess I've done dumber things... but then you've read the trip reports... ;-). Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" To: "Dana L. Sawyer" Cc: Subject: PC800: Re: VDO guages Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:58:34 -0400 Dana, I was curious when you purchased the meters from USI??? I just called them for pricing based on the VDO catalog that I got last fall. The pricing they quoted me is as follows: VDO Cockpit Series ============================================ Voltmeter 332-041 List $36.50 Quote $25.55 Quartz Clock 370-021 List $61.00 Quote $42.70 Green Diffusers US316-6 $2.77/each ============================================ According to your info, the prices were $21.90 and $29.97 respectively... Just thought I'd ask before spending the money. Thanks, Jeffrey A. Guntert Petersburg, NY 1996 PC800 4,475 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFEJ6FL3; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:17:33 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: SEAT FATIGUE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:17:33 EDT NO JOKE: 1) I do my aerobics ON the bike heading for my destination. Works for me! 2) I can do this because: a) I'm short. b) I ride a PC that gives me oodles of squirm options, like posting on the pegs, lying on my tummy w/ my legs stretched out behind me on the trunk tops, backseat positioning, new forward hwy pegs...the positions are only limited by your (my?) imagination. 3) My longest day solo (no other bikes, no passengers) was from Phx, AZ to Durango, CO, the 4 Corners Ironhorse Rally last year. Can't remember for sure but I think it was 450-500 miles. I had NO SEAT PROBLEMS, and that was BEFORE the gel pad and 2nd sheepskin additions. Alas, I did get poor gas mileage. Oh, the sacrifices I make! My biker-budd went up the day before on his bigger (NOT better) Honda, and I beat his time by almost 2 hours. *SHAME ON ME* Not to worry, I wore a helmet and goggles and sent strangers (cagers) ahead for bait. Ann annreid@juno.com Wed. 6.10.98 12:15 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:32:39 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu " Subject: PC800: Honda Homecoming  Red Rider lists the 1998 Home Coming as July 23-25 , Honda stated last July that it would be the same weekend every year
from now on.

Honda Motorcycles - Rider's Clu ->Hoot info

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Peace and All Good, Bill
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:22:35 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu " Subject: PC800: Shocks --------------F235A0E6D5DA5242AC38389D Rather than deal with refitting the Koni's, here's another shock for the PC. Works Performance has them for the PC. Steel standard (their "ARS" system won't work on the PC due to clearance) is best deal at $279 . Chrome is $319 and aluminum is $369. WORKS PERFORMANCE 21045 OSBORNE STREET CANOGA PARK, CA 91304 818-701-1010 -- Peace and All Good, Bill --------------F235A0E6D5DA5242AC38389D     Rather than deal with refitting the Koni's, here's another shock for the PC.
Works Performance has them for the PC. Steel standard (their "ARS" system won't work on the PC due to clearance) is best deal at $279 . Chrome is $319 and aluminum is $369.

WORKS PERFORMANCE
21045 OSBORNE STREET
CANOGA PARK, CA 91304
818-701-1010
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Peace and All Good, Bill
  --------------F235A0E6D5DA5242AC38389D-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 261 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:04:45 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: Clearview shield Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:05:06 -0400 Importance: Normal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just made a call to Sport Touring Accessories about the Clearview windshield. The person said that instructions are not included with the product. I guess that means I have to buy a service manual from the local dealer for an extra 50 bucks or whatever is costs. Anyone have instructions on hand on how to remove and install the windshield? Doug ***************************************************** Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net PGP DH/DSS KeyID: 0x8A03FBC2 PGP RSA KeyID: 0x51A5E941 ICQ# 10620095 "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." -- Thomas Jefferson ***************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNX8DEh+YC0eKA/vCEQL6FgCfXv5pGbmaOkAvchI6TDXUmCCrtL0AoJMZ rPd0vNaGqMdnPHS7GxO0pVVu =wtO8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:08 -0400 To: "Douglas Ford" , "PC800 Mailing List" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview shield Douglas Ford wrote: >Just made a call to Sport Touring Accessories about the Clearview >windshield. The person said that instructions are not included with the >product. I guess that means I have to buy a service manual from the local >dealer for an extra 50 bucks or whatever is costs. Anyone have >instructions on hand on how to remove and install the windshield? > >Doug Hi Doug. It's not that tough. I installed my shield at Americade. I was parked on the grass, on my side stand, and I used the stock tool kit!! Here's how I remember it. You need to remove the two mirrors with the allen key in the toolkit. Adjust the mirrors so they are 'in' as much as possible and you will see the hidden screws. Remove the black air vent at the front and base of the screen with a philips head screwdriver. (two screws on the edges of the vent, one each side) Remove the body color plastic trim piece that follows the base of the screen. It has two allen screws on it, one each side, now exposed since the mirrors have been removed. Remove the 5 large phillips head screws holding the brass colored bracket in place. Remove the stock shield. Install the Clearview. Reverse the steps.. Go ride! It will probably take a bit of playing around with it to get it right, since it is thicker than the stock shield, and so the screws are a tighter fit. I would suggest that you get all 5 screws back in loosely first, before you tighten any of them, so that there is still a bit of play in the screen. Good luck. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:58:50 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview shield Hi, Doug: It's a piece of cake: 1. Remove the mirror housings--push the inner edges of the mirrors inward (forward) to reveal the mounting screws (two hex-head screws at the rear of the housings. 2. Remove the windscreen vent grill. One phillips-head screw on each side. 3. Under the mirrors are two hex-head screws (one on each side) that hold the plastic trim piece along the base of the shield. Remove the screws; then, the trim piece. 4. Remove the windshield-mounting screws (phillips-head, five of them). Each screw has a round collar that you should be careful not to lose. Under the rear screw on each side there is a secondary oval collar that goes in the oval cut-out in the base of the screen. It goes between the shield and the metal mounting frame. They too are easy to drop (down into the fairing!!!); so, be careful with them. Hold the shield when removing the last screw to keep it from falling (although it may stay in place depending on how strongly it has adhered to the rubber gasket underneath. Replacement is simply the reverse procedure. Good luck. J.T. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFE5P3JR; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:41:45 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dford@tidalwave.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, swift24@juno.com Subject: Re: PC800: Clearview shield From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:41:45 EDT Douglas, Looks as if your question has been very clearly answered. I have only a few side thots to add. 1) MANUAL (1989 thru 1996?): I have and a copy machine and fax but no scanner. Would you like Faxed or Snail Mail? Give info for your preference. 2) I've replaced my windshield at least 4 times ... long (boring) story (with happy ending), and last time was well over a year ago. 3) WARNING: Getting the last of the 5 windshield screws solidly back in place ALONE cost me a fingernail...the whole nail! *DUMB REDHEAD* Next time, I waited for help! Four hands are exponentially better than two! (Sez Ms. Klutz..at 3am!) 4) USEFUL TOOLS: A good maglite, small mirror, telescoping magnet, and one of those l-o-n-g wire thingys that you depress a button on one end and a pronged pincher opens and/or closes on the other. This is very useful WHEN you drop one of the windshield screws, it lands in a deep body cavity, and does NOT fall out on the ground....and you panic and use words I've never heard. *GRIN* [Most of these tools are available at any gun show for $2-$5 each and worth their weight in tacos, to borrow Jean-Luc-2's phrase.] Ditto on the Good Luck! Ann Memory Jogger: I have an '89 PC with a 40' (*WINK*) Rifle Windshield, which I like so well, that I bot a spare ... JUST IN CASE. I've had it for a little over two years thru high winds, low winds, crosswinds, headwinds, tailwinds, and my winds. annreid@juno.com Wed. 6.10.98 18:30 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Adrian Zai" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: I got a new PC800 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:49:53 -0400 Hi everyone, Thanks for all the help you all provided me during my shopping around=20 for a new PC800. I manage to get a new 98 model PC800 from=20 Greater Boston Motorsport for $6200. As I mentioned before, I was busy studying for my medical board exam for the past month. After sitting through 2 days of hell and 720 = multiple choice questions in 12 hours, I went straight to the dealer and bought the bike. According to the dealer, it will only take a few days for them to built it since it's still in the crate. Now, instead of sitting at the library dreaming about cruising around the coast of Maine, I will actually be doing that =3DD Adrian PS: Dana, thanks for the brochure and the personal letter. I'll send it in as soon as I possible.

it in as soon as I = possible.
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) 11 Jun 1998 02:10:33 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:06:24 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: SEAT FATIGUE To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ann writes: > b) I ride a PC that gives me oodles of squirm options, like >posting on the pegs, lying on my tummy w/ my legs stretched out behind me >on the trunk tops, backseat positioning, new forward hwy pegs...the >positions are only limited by your (my?) imagination. Ohhh, now I know who the model is for the Aerostitch rider logo! Mike V > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:07:17 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo To: Adrian Zai CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: I got a new PC800 COngratulations, both on surviving the exams, and on getting your new bike. I completed my MSMOT early in May, and my remarkable wife bought me a Suzuki GS650G. We have since wished we'd invested more time and money and found a good used PC. The Suz is a great bike for a middleweight, but, sadly, neither Nan nor I could be considered in that category. Anyone interested in a well-cared-for 1982 red Suz GS650G w/ 20KMi, windshield and luggage rack, for $twelvish(00) can see steve@schiavo.com for pictures. Anyone knowing of a good PC800 (or Interstate) in Sou.Texas for something around $4G, let us know. Adrian, congrats again. What grind it must have been! And what a delight it'll be (when all the dealer-new-bike-trauma is over) to hit the road and leave all the schooling, papers, and exams behind you! Steve Univ. of the Incarnate Word / UTSA / UTEP / UNameIt > Adrian Zai wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for all the help you all provided me during my shopping around > for a new PC800. I manage to get a new 98 model PC800 from > Greater Boston Motorsport for $6200. > As I mentioned before, I was busy studying for my medical board exam > for the past month. After sitting through 2 days of hell and 720 > multiple > choice questions in 12 hours, I went straight to the dealer and > bought > the bike. > According to the dealer, it will only take a few days for them to > built it since it's still in the crate. > Now, instead of sitting at the library dreaming about cruising around > the coast of Maine, I will actually be doing that =D > > Adrian > > PS: Dana, thanks for the brochure and the personal letter. I'll send > it in as soon as I possible. -- Steve Schiavo Center Point, Texas http://universe.uiwtx.edu/~schiavo/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:16:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: Works Shocks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I just bought a set of their shocks. I also bought a set of their fork springs. Just under $400 for everything. They custom make them to your weight and riding style. FWIW: The owner has a PC800. Their factory is about 3 miles from my house, so I drove over to check 'em out. I have not yet installed them, but for what it's worth, they are very professional, and delivered my shocks a week early. They also have a web page: http://www.worksperformance.com/ If anyone has changed their PC shocks and/or springs, could you let me know how tough it is? Should I take it to the shop? The shop said 3-4 hours at $45/hr to install both springs and shocks. I'll let ya'll know how they feel after I get them installed. John ---Bill Snead wrote: > > Rather than deal with refitting the Koni's, here's another shock for > the PC. > Works Performance has them for the PC. Steel standard (their "ARS" > system won't work on the PC due to clearance) is best deal at $279 . > Chrome is $319 and aluminum is $369. > > WORKS PERFORMANCE > 21045 OSBORNE STREET > CANOGA PARK, CA 91304 > 818-701-1010 > -- > Peace and All Good, Bill > >
Rather than deal with refitting the Koni's, here's another shock for the PC.
Works Performance has them for the PC. Steel standard (their "ARS" system won't work on the PC due to clearance) is best deal at $279 . Chrome is $319 and aluminum is $369.

WORKS PERFORMANCE
21045 OSBORNE STREET
CANOGA PARK, CA 91304
818-701-1010
--
Peace and All Good, Bill
_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM01SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27033) 11 Jun 1998 02:56:15 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:52:57 -0500 From: Mike & Cindy Ver Velde Subject: PC800: Honda Nighthawk To: PC800 email boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD94A9.5D662100" Anyone know the going rate for a good used Honda Nighthawk 750? I know = some of you have one for your "boss" . My wife used to ride in college, = and thought it would be nice to have another bike as she would rather = have her own. =20 Thanks =20 Mike V Stockton Ca -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:48:08 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Ron Ayres 49 states in 7 days Just wanted to let everyone know, if they don't already, that a superman named Ron Ayres is in the middle of attempting to travel from Maine to Alaska in 7 days on a BMW. By the way, he is stopping in the other 47 states in between. His progress is being updated by his wife at his home page. Here is the address. Follow along.  The 7/49 - Leg 3 He started Sunday night and is in the 3rd leg as of today, Wed. the tenth. I met him Tuesday night in Ruston La. where he stopped and filled up, and was highly impressed. He is riding 20 to 30 hours and sleeping only 3 or 4 before he gets up and rides another 20 or 30.
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Steve Wilson     Ruston LA.

Owner:     Father & Son Lawn Care

Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer
           22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck

Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800
           46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield,
           and too many other options to list.
           (My Wife might see!)
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:34:31 -0500 To: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: Re: VDO guages Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Jeff, >VDO Cockpit Series > >============================================ > >Voltmeter 332-041 List $36.50 Quote $25.55 >Quartz Clock 370-021 List $61.00 Quote $42.70 >According to your info, the prices were $21.90 and $29.97 respectively... I ordered these same gauges 6/08 and I got the same list price quotes. I don't remember the exact total but my order came to $60 something so I would say that your quotes are right on. I just got my catalog a few days ago and it was $3. I believe Dana said his was $2? Inflation I guess. I'm looking forward to getting my gages. Who knows they may get here before my GiVi box does. I ordered that from Competition Accessories back on May 22nd and it's not here yet. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:15:16 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Douglas Ford CC: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Carb sync > Doug, > > Is the process valid for all model years? Also if someone on the list has > a service manual for the '97, can I ask a favor of them to maybe scan the > instructions and email them to me? Thanks. > > The carb synch procedure is generic to multi carb bikes, and so is not > covered in the PC manual. It is (I believe) in the general service manual, > but that's in the garage, so I'll forward it tomorrow. > Alan Taylor 95 PC800 Midnight Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Adrian Zai" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Touring Jackets recommendations? Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:12:36 -0400 Hi all, Now that I finally got my new PC800, the next item to get would be a jacket that is well-designed to use in New England. I was wondering what type of jackets are you all using? I like the aerostitch Darien but it is quite expensive. Any suggestions? Thanks, Adrian -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: email@tutt.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #18580) 11 Jun 1998 03:08:31 CDT Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:08:31 -0500 (CDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by Post-Office.UH.EDU Subject: PC800: Leather Motorcycle Accessories To: "Motorcycle Rider.XDKR"@hpc.uh.edu X-Reply-to: email@tutt.com Leather Motorcycle Pants and accessories at reasonable prices. On Sale Now the Rocky Mountain Pant. You can find these and other products at: http:www.tutt.com/mcycle/mcycle.htm I don't like spam mail either and I have avoided it like the plague, but unfortunately it is needed to compete in business. If you want to be removed from this list please respond with remove in subject line.. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFF47K3S; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:51:59 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:50:27 -0400 Subject: PC800: Fork Seals From: miketwh@juno.com (Mike T Whited) Out of curiosity, Has anyone replaced their fork seals and at what milage? Thanks Mike Whited ' 94 PC800 40K _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GBalthaser@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:36:27 EDT To: jgeistlubtx@door.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: K&N update Question. When you install K& N air filter do you also have to change jets in carbs? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:52:48 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: GBalthaser@aol.com CC: jgeistlubtx@door.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: K&N update Instructions with the filter didn't mention it, so I assume the answer is no. -- Steve Wilson Ruston LA. Owner: Father & Son Lawn Care Week Days: John Deere 455 All Wheel Steer 22 H.P. Diesel, 60 Inch Deck Week Ends: 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800 46 Liter GIVI Bag, Rifle Shield, and too many other options to list. (My Wife might see!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GBalthaser@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:57:00 EDT To: deere@linknet.net Cc: jgeistlubtx@door.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: K&N update Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering because I was considering getting a K&N but I thought I had read somewhere that you had to rejet. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" To: Subject: PC800: Web Address Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:34:16 -0400 Does anyone have the web address for Aerostitch? I'm working from my home today, and my list is slightly off from my work PC. Thanks, Jeffrey A. Guntert Petersburg, NY 96 PC800 4,475 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:41:01 -0400 To: "Adrian Zai" , "PC800" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Touring Jackets recommendations? At 2:12 AM -0400 6/11/98, Adrian Zai wrote: > Hi all, Now that I finally got my new PC800, the next item to get >would be a jacket that is well-designed to use in New England. I was >wondering what type of jackets are you all using? I like the aerostitch >Darien but it is quite expensive. Any suggestions? Thanks, Adrian The Darien is a bit pricey, but since you recently took the medical exam, you must be aware that skin grafts cost alot more than a Darien. It will protect you very well in a fall. It is completely waterproof. Its not as warm as leather on a hot summer day, so you will wear it more often. And on a cold fall night, when the flurries are starting to fall on your way home, you will be cozy with your Darien and the liner. I know it's a lot of cash, but I am certain that you would not regret it. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:46:13 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: SEAT FATIGUE Cc: swift24@juno.com Anne S Reid writes: >posting on the pegs, lying on my tummy w/ my legs stretched out behind me >on the trunk tops, backseat positioning, new forward hwy pegs...the >positions are only limited by your (my?) imagination. My positions are limited to how closely I want my fellow riders to be riding with me. The one time I stretched out with my legs over the trunk tops they backed off about a mile. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com via smtpd (for Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) with SMTP; 11 Jun 1998 13:39:50 UT To: "Adrian Zai" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:32:19 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Touring Jackets recommendations? Adrian wrote: >I like the aerostitch Darien but it is quite expensive. I ran into somebody last night that had a Darien. (One sweet jacket!!) He bought it without the liner for ~$350. I don't know the exact price but he said he saved a couple hundred getting it without the liner. By the weight of the jacket I don't think you would need it unless the temp. was below 50F and you can always layer with other clothes. It's one way of getting it for a little cheaper. I also noticed that they have clearance sales from customer returns on their web site. Might be able to save some money on something like that. www.aerostich.com He also said he contacted (LL Bean? I think) for a liner that was about half price, you just need to make sure the YYK zipper is the same. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:15:23 -0500 To: PC800 Listers From: Lee Morris Subject: PC800: Return to list Greetings: I went off the list for a couple weeks while traveling to/from and enjoying Americade. What a great time. Saw and talked to several PCers while there. Did leave the midwest and our sometimes violent summer weather only to find tornados in NY State, but that's another story. Put on a Corbin seat at TourExpo so have an almost new (1200 mi) '97 stock seat to sell. Will let go very cheap + shipping. Let me know. Best regards, Lee @ Lake of the Ozarks '97 PC800 (1600 mi) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Leather Motorcycle Accessories From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1998 11:46:50 -0500 Lines: 3 I've banned these idiots and complained to their provider. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Jeffrey A. Guntert" Cc: Subject: PC800: Re: Web Address From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1998 11:56:52 -0500 Lines: 7 >>>>> "JAG" == Jeffrey A Guntert writes: JAG> Does anyone have the web address for Aerostitch? Probably "aerostich.com". There is no second 't' in the name. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Touring Jackets recommendations? Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 13:12:04 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: PC800: Touring Jackets recommendations? >Sent: 06/11/1998 1:18 AM >From: waffle@bu.edu >To: Patkins >Enclosure: FILE139.HTM > > >Hi all, > >Now that I finally got my new PC800, the next item to get would >be a jacket that is well-designed to use in New England. >I was wondering what type of jackets are you all using? >I like the aerostitch Darien but it is quite expensive. >Any suggestions? > >Thanks, >Adrian Adrian, I agree with you, the aerostich stuff costs money..I did bite the bullet and buy the darien jacket earlier this spring and it has been nice..good from cold to warm and love the reflective stripes...waited a bit and bought the darien pants this month...warmer than chaps on a cool day and both kept me dry this past week....expensive though... Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:35:24 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:34:38 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tires I need to buy my first replacement sneakers for "This End Up". Its a 1990 PC with 12,000 miles. I know nothing about motorcycle tires. From rading the archives and recent posting it appears most of our PC'ers prefer Metzelers to Dunlops. The ML2's have been mentioned a lot. My dealer has recommended the ME 33 (front) and ME 88 (rear) as an option. From the miles I put on the bike, I don't care about getting maximum mileage, but I do want good performance. I like some confidence that the bike will stick when its horizontal in the curves. Anyone have some recommendations? How do the ME tires compare to the ML2's? What should I be looking for in a tire? Any comments are welcome. Thanks Mark Venable '90 PC800 "This End Up" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JBLAV@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:57:26 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Cycle World Jul98 Hello everyone, Next time you walk by the news stand pick up the new Cycle World. Turn to page 26 there is a whole page dedicated to our beloved PC800. The article is positive in nature, despite the scooter on steroids comment. Jim Key Largo FL 90PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:13:38 -0400 To: "J. MARK VENABLE" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Tires At 4:34 PM -0400 6/11/98, J. MARK VENABLE wrote: > >Anyone have some recommendations? How do the ME tires compare to the ML2's? >What should I be looking for in a tire? Any comments are welcome. > >Thanks > >Mark Venable Hi Mark.. You wanted to know how the ME 's compared to the ML's. Well, the ME's are not available in the size you need, and the ML's are. Sorry I couldn't be more help. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:54:08 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Fork Seals Mike T Whited wrote: > Out of curiosity, > > Has anyone replaced their fork seals and at what milage? Replaced mine when they began seeping a bit at 65,000 or so. Unless they're seeping (weeping, leaking, running-whatever) they are fine. It's good idea to replace them if you're into the forks for another reason tho-like new springs etc. I wimped out and took the forks off and into the dealer, total cost about $55 labor (I already had the seals) -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:55:33 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: K&N update The difference in not enough to cause a much leaner condition, no change is necessary (or recommended!) -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:56:49 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Web Address --------------891AB302A4A5F179848CDEAF Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > JAG> Does anyone have the web address for Aerostitch? > > Probably "aerostich.com". There is no second 't' in the name. AEROSTICH & THE RIDERWEARHOUSEPeace and All Good, Bill --------------891AB302A4A5F179848CDEAF  

Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

JAG> Does anyone have the web address for Aerostitch?

Probably "aerostich.com".  There is no second 't' in the name.

 AEROSTICH & THE RIDERWEARHOUSEPeace and All Good, Bill
  --------------891AB302A4A5F179848CDEAF-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: HOWARD ENGLAND Subject: PC800: pc800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu First i am very new to a computer so if i make any mistakes please bare with me. Name Howard England from Yorkshire England. Email=ramblers2000@yahoo.com pc model.I am going to look at this bike at the week end.It is second hand ,about 7 years old 35,000 miles on clock. I really would like to buy this machine. but need to know more about the bike. P.S. i was really surprised to find other people,who are on the internet interested in P.C 800,PLEASE EXCUSE ME AS THIS IS MY FIRST E.M.Just connected last week,hope you are all well all the best howard . I wonder if anything will happen == HOWARD E. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:11:45 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Tires > *Ditto Mark, although you may still be able to get K177 Dunlops from > Motorcycle accessory warehouse. My dealer still has some in stock, so check > them too (yours, not mine ;) Otherwise, ML2's are your option for the sizes you need. (120/80-17 front, and 140/80-15 rear) -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:20:34 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 Howard, go here for a list of the archives of what people on this list have written concerning the PC  Pacific Coast Mailing List Inte  (http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/)

Peace, Bill
 

HOWARD ENGLAND wrote:

I really would like to buy this machine.
but need to know more about the bike.
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:24:48 -0700 From: Julie Hendrix To: HOWARD ENGLAND CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 Dear Howard, All sorts of things happen on the internet! You'll likely get a list of likes & dislikes. Here are mine: 1. No stinking clock. Your statement about the mileage on the "clock" got my attention because there ISN'T ONE. But, there are lots of archived letters about putting one on. 2. I don't know how tall you are, but the wind whip on this bike is pretty well acknowledged and documented with the regular faring. If you tuck in under it, its very quiet. Again, lots of info on overcoming this in previous letters by switching faring or adding Sahng (sp) edging . . . something I have been considering and which has had lots of talk on here. 3. A related problem is the vacuum push from behind caused by the faring. I don't notice this all that much but I have the standard faring. It seems to get worse with the higher faring models. You others out there can give your opinions on a before-after basis. My own selfish question is whether or not the edging seems to modify that problem along with the wind buffeting. . . ? 4. I would imagine in foggy old England that the watertight nature of the trunk area would be a real bonus. Most people are generally awestruck by the trunk. Its fun to open it in front of people and watch them come over to see what's going on. As to the foggy/wetness, the full faring nature of the bike will also be comforting, I would imagine. 5. Harley people don't wave at me on a PC800. Oh, wait. That's on my "Things I like" list. Sorry. 6. There IS a curious up-the-pantleg draft on this bike. If you tuck your legs in tight, it is minimized. Next really cold ride I'll take will include leg warmers or something like to put over the bottom of the pant leg to prevent the draft. Well, you will probably get other letters. This PC is my second . . . got it for my 10th wedding anniversary :) He got a blender (kidding). E-ya later, Juli-e 1997 Redvroom HOWARD ENGLAND wrote: > > First i am very new to a computer so if i make any mistakes please > bare with me. > Name Howard England from Yorkshire England. > Email=ramblers2000@yahoo.com > pc model.I am going to look at this bike at the week end.It is second > hand ,about 7 years old 35,000 > miles on clock. > I really would like to buy this machine. > but need to know more about the bike. > P.S. i was really surprised to find other people,who are on the > internet interested in P.C 800,PLEASE EXCUSE ME AS THIS IS MY FIRST > E.M.Just connected last week,hope you are all well all the best > howard . > > I wonder if anything will happen > > == > > HOWARD E. > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GBalthaser@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:46:03 EDT To: aslankid@earthlink.net, ramblers2000@yahoo.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 In regard to windshield. I found with stock shield wind noise & buffeting at middle to top of helmet was really annoying. I installed higher Hondaline shield. Now I can actually hear engine & exhaust & have no helmet buffeting. But now I can notice the back pressure. I'm thinking about adding the edging. Since I just had the expense of the Hondaline higher shield I don't want to spend the money for an after market shield. If I had found this great webpage earlier I would have got another manufacturer's shield. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Adrian Zai" cc: "PC800" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: PC800: I got a new PC800 of "Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:49:53 EDT." <01bd94db$3a80a520$2490fed0@pdi-man-> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:27:36 -0500 -------- "Adrian Zai" writes: > > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD94B9.B36F0520 > charset="iso-8859-1" Please disable "Rich Text" or "HTML" or whatever Microsoft Outlook calls it. And then don't format text with colors, change fonts, bold, etc, else it'll turn HTML on once again. Don't try to turn off MIME as MIME is a good thing. > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for all the help you all provided me during my shopping around=20 > for a new PC800. I manage to get a new 98 model PC800 from=20 > Greater Boston Motorsport for $6200. > As I mentioned before, I was busy studying for my medical board exam > for the past month. After sitting through 2 days of hell and 720 = > multiple > choice questions in 12 hours, I went straight to the dealer and bought > the bike. > According to the dealer, it will only take a few days for them to > built it since it's still in the crate. > Now, instead of sitting at the library dreaming about cruising around > the coast of Maine, I will actually be doing that =3DD Ain't it great? I'm going to get my '98 tomorrow morning. Almost exactly the same price you got. Told the dealer if they got one in the crate I wanted to take the day off and "help" give birth. Used to bust bikes out of the crate in high school. Never got to keep one of those. They "borrowed" a PC from another dealer so mine's already a roller. Remember how amazing the Kawasaki KZ650 was when it was new? In 1976 or 1977 those were my favorite to assemble. This is what HTML email looks like in the raw. Crumby machine generated HTML too: > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD94B9.B36F0520 > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > >
Hi everyone,
>
 
>
Thanks for all the help you all = > provided me=20 > during my shopping around
>
for a new PC800.  I manage to = > get a new 98=20 > model PC800 from
>
Greater Boston Motorsport for=20 > $6200.
>
As I mentioned before, I was busy = > studying for=20 > my medical board exam
>
for the past month. After sitting = > through 2 days=20 > of hell and 720 multiple
>
choice questions in 12 hours,  = > I went=20 > straight to the dealer and bought
>
the bike.
>
According to the dealer, it will only take a few = > days for them=20 > to
>
built it since it's still in the crate.
>
Now, instead of sitting at the library dreaming = > about cruising=20 > around
>
the coast of Maine, I will actually be doing that=20 > =3DD
>
 
>
Adrian
>
 
>
PS: Dana, thanks for the brochure and the personal = > letter.=20 > I'll send
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD94B9.B36F0520-- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:05:34 -0500 To: PLeray@AOL.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: Re: PC800: New memeber : WELCOME !! YEA clap, clap, applause applause...good man, 3 cheers, etc, etc Doug At 11:20 AM 6/9/98 EDT, you wrote: > > Glen, > > Welcome to the group. I just saddled-up with these folks a couple of >months ago and, while trying not to be gushy about it, this is a fine >collection of people. > > It difficult these days to find ANY group, discussing ANY topic, that >doesn't have at least 1/3 of 'em certifiable nut-cases or screwballs. This >bag of folks doesn't! >(Well,.........maybe a couple aren't bolted down real snug?) > > By the way, everyone, doesn't our long-suffering MAJORDOMO coordinating- >type >person deserve a small round of applause? Seems it's a fair amount of effort >to moderate this group. "clapclapclapclapclapclapwhistleclapclapclap". > > Patrick in La. > '97 Thumper Rabbit >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFHFAJQG; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:07:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: swift24@juno.com Subject: PC800: USED/USABLE METZLERS FREE From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:07:36 EDT 1) METZLERS w/ 13,780 MILES - RATED @ 17,000: I had my first set of Metzler Marathons installed April 1996 and replaced April 1997...BEFORE completely worn out. I replaced them prematurely on purpose; I was going on an extended road trip which included New Mexico's Pig Path 15, which I'd ridden (at least) twice before and swore NEVER AGAIN each time. Obviously, I lied to myself. SIDE NOTE: 90% of my miles are hwy or backroads (paved ONLY). This set took me to Surgis and back in Aug. 1996...thru a gawdawful rain/wind/hail storm near Denver. I didn't like it much, but the bike kept talkin' to me, "I want to stay upright, I want to stay upright..." 2) REAR: I've been told it has maybe 2,000 miles left on it. 3) FRONT: I was told it has a LOT of miles left. 4) WHY GIVE THEM AWAY FOR FREE? a) I have already purchased my 3rd set that I'm hopeful I will not have to install until I return from the Hoot ... 5,000 miles down the road. b) I cannot change my own tires and must pay min. $60 to have done. It's not cost effective for me to use them. c) I hate to throw anything useful away and would prefer to recycle and/or let someone else sort 'n toss. d) Well, they're not quite free. I would prefer the "taker" pay UPS ground charges from AZ to wherever. 5) CALL THE ANSWERMAN AT METZLER: (610) 458-9662 8-5 EST Ann annreid@juno.com Thu. 6.11.98 13:40 MST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFHG5UR6; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:40:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: VENABJM@GWSMTP.NU.COM Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tires From: annreid@juno.com (ann s reid) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:40:00 EDT Mark, 1) I'm too dumb to know the right questions to ask, or precisely what to look for in a tire. I just know what FEELS good and SOUNDS good when I'm cruising at 85 for long periods and what STICKS and bolsters my nerve and self-confidence when I'm doing twisties (i.e. Pigtail Bridges in SD and Pig Path 15 in NM) that jumpstart my heart at regular intervals. 2) Call Metzler(610) 458-9662 8-5 EST I "think" the ONLY tire they sell specifically for the PC is the Marathon. They hug like glue on all hard road surfaces. I don't do dirt ... and dirt parking lots ONLY under protest ... LOUD protests!! 3) To repeat, I have bot 3 sets from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse): MAW (800) 241-2222 ML-2 Front 120/80H17 . . . about $110 ML-2+ Rear 140/80HB15. . . about 130 Shipping & Handling . . . about 20 ---- Approx. Total $260 Local Labor Bal. & Install + 60 Metzler provides the warranty, NOT MAW. Ann annreid@juno.com Thu. 6.11.98 16:25 MST _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:40:11 +0000 From: Bill Snead To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: HTML check Ok, Ok....I've turned "HTML" off, MIME on. I'm including a link as well for a test. If this note looks like it should, or if indeed it's still formatted wrong...someone please let me know. http://www.accwhse.com/ Thanks -- Peace and All Good, Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DFHFAJPM; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:07:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dbennett@