********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "HPCE Gerard" To: "Sabine" , "PC800 friends" , "Michael Sennewald" , "Franz Verheij" , "Jos Kurvers" , "Piet Lagemaat" , "Alexander D Gray" Subject: PC800: Second HPCE ride of the season Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:59:42 +0200 Dear friends, On February 29 we had our second ride of the season, Route Romana, lots of sunny and warm weather, pictures (divided into 6 pages to minimize download times) are available at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/trip-reports/romana-98/romana-98.htm Have fun. Gerard Pacific Coast Europe Gerard Diepeveen, email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:03:56 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sparky question I recently changed plugs on my '89. Much to my surprise, a plastic/rubber plug cover on the front left cylinder was cracked in half so I don't even know if it was "sparking" properly. I picked up a new cap yesterday and installed. The cap literally screws on to the wire. I think I got it seated correctly but am wondering if there is a relatively simple way of checking to see if I have spark to that plug. I have basic tools only and don't have any testing gear. I did fire up the bike and it seemed to run ok after a 5 months rest period. Yah! Wisconsin winters are way toooooo looong. I also changed the air filter using a Fram CA3559 filter that was suggested as an alternative to paying outlandish Honda prices. Allegedly, this filter was for a mid 80's Dodge. I have to believe that it must fit a lot of other applications because the store had about 40 of them in stock. There aren't that many mid 80's Dodges on the road anymore. The filter "operation" wasn't bad and seemed to fit well after a few minor modifications. The filter cost me about $3.00, a bit cheaper than the $30-$40 that Honda wants for a filter. I also bought a rear soft bag based on a suggestion made to the list by Phil Lewis. The bag is decent sized and only was $46.00. Phil has a picture of it and directions on the SCPCR page. I spent about an hour last night with velcro and contact cement. It seems to fit well and will be a welcome addition to the bike for traveling. A tank bag is on order and should be here in a few weeks. I called Louisiana early Monday and some lucky person had already snatched up the $50 Utopia driver's backrest:-) Three weeks after back surgery, I am feeling pretty well and itching to get on the road soon. Happy riding to all! Bob Rufener '89 PC800 Hartford, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #18580) Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:02:03 CST by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA03456; Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:58:07 -0800 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:57:26 -0800 From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com Subject: RE: PC800: Second HPCE ride of the season To: pce@dsv.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Great pictures. I especially liked the "purchase" at the end. Todd Vierheller '96 BMW R1100RT, "Rain Dancer" > -----Original Message----- > From: HPCE Gerard [SMTP:pce@dsv.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 1:00 AM > To: Sabine; PC800 friends; Michael Sennewald; Franz Verheij; Jos > Kurvers; Piet Lagemaat; Alexander D Gray > Subject: PC800: Second HPCE ride of the season > > Dear friends, > > On February 29 we had our second ride of the season, Route Romana, > lots of > sunny and warm weather, pictures (divided into 6 pages to minimize > download > times) are available at: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/trip-reports/romana-98/romana-98.htm > > Have fun. > > Gerard > > Pacific Coast Europe > Gerard Diepeveen, email: pce@dsv.nl > Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 > > Pacific Coast Europe website: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:21:36 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Jay Gulledge From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! >This was on the CBR List today. Be SURE to check out the website listed >at the end of the article before you despair. >--Mark > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:29:13 -0800 (PST) >From: Otis Adis >Subject: [cbr] SHOCKING NEWS! > >this just landed on the Long Distance Riders list: > >Here is a perfect example of why we as motorcyclists need to stop all >this bickering bullshit about "my brand is better than your brand" >bantering and concentrate on the real issues that threaten our hobby. >Sorry for the bandwidth but thought you should read this.......Bill >- - -----Original Message----- >From: Norm & Kay Hustad >To: wings@armchair.mb.ca >Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 12:10 AM >Subject: [Wings] Deal's Gap Closure > > >>With all the talk about closing some National Parks to motorists I >>thought this would be of interest to the list especially if you were >>thinking of visiting Tennessee and South Carolina this summer to >>'Drive the Dragon' aka Deal's Gap. >> >>>>From the North Carolina Robbinsville Tribune >> >>END OF AN ERA >> >>Tennessee Govenor Don Sundquist (D) and North Carolina >>Governor James B. Hunt Jr.(D) made a joint announcement >>this date advising the State highway Route 129 known as Deal's >>Gap will be closed to all motorcyclists effective April 30, l998. >> >>Reading from a report by Tennesse's Transportation Commissioner >>J. Bruce Saltsman Sr. and North Carolina's Department of Transport >>secretary Garland B. Garrett Jr. indicating there has been too many >>motorcycle accidents with resulting serious injury and death on an >>eleven mile strip of Highway 129 known as Deal's Gap, the two state >>legislators have agreed to closing that section of roadway to all >>motorcyclists effective April 30, l998. >> >>Motorcyclists apparently trying to run what has become known as >>"The Dragon," an eleven mile strip with 318 curves over the past >>few years have been trying to beat the 12 minute record set by a >>1995 BMW. Accidents involving motorcycles has resulted in 18 >>deaths in the past two years. >> >>The American Motorcycle Association (AMA) an association that >>lobbies the government on laws pertaining to motorcyclists was >>contacted and stated that they were aware that the two State >>governments were thinking of taking some action to curb the loss >>of life along this stretch of highway but the AMA had not been >>consulted on any remedies they may wish to suggest. A spokesperson >>for the AMA stated not all motorcycle drivers are running this >>roadway dangerously and pointed out the statistics indicate there had >>not been one large touring type motorcycle involved in a serious >>accident in the past ten years. AMA stated it is considering >>petitioning >>the Federal Government to have the ban lifted as being >>unconstitutional. >> >>North Carolina's Graham County Sheriff Noel T. Baker, stationed at >>Robbinsville NC who has received some notoriety for ticketing >>motorcyclists in the area in an attempt to slow them down stated; >>"It is about time someone in the government took some action to >>reduce the carnage by motorcyclists on this highway". BAKER >>had been the target of a boycott by the BMW Association of America >>who's members are particularly prone to run this road to see who can >>do the eleven miles in the shortest period of time. BAKER, who's >>unmarked police cruiser ran off the road on one of the particularly >>sharp curves while pursuing a motorcyclist stated "I'm sick and tired >>of having to replace police cars running off this road in pursuit of >>motorcycles." >> >>Deal's Gap at the south end starts at a campground in North Carolina >>named "The Crossroads of Time" (COT) The roadway soon enters >>the state of Tennessee and continues north for approximately 11 miles >>just skirting the southern boundry of the Great Smoky Mountain >>National >>Park. Peter Johansen owner of the COT campsite where a private club >>known as the Dragons Den is located stated, "Last summer Sheriff >>BAKER cancelled the beer licence of the BMWA's annual picnic on the >>hottest day of the year. I sure had some hot and unhappy >>motorcyclists >>on my campground. Luckily I had just put in a big stock of my own >>beer and I gave it to the boys, at no charge of course". >> >>In answer to opposing this closure by ABATE, volunteer lobbyist, >>Rodney Roberts, on the grounds that it is discrimination, Governor >>Sundquist stated "If you think the State Governments can not close >>a roadway to a specified class of vehicles you only have to look at >>Tanglewood County Park where motorcycles have been banned >>for the past 35 years. If County Governments can restrict some roads >>to a certain classes of vehicles while banning other classes certainly >>the State Governments are also justified in doing so". Another >>example >>is the closing by the Federal Government of Yosemite National Park >>along with some other National Parks to all motor vehicles in the year >>2000. >> >>Honda of America's President Koichi Amemiya advised Gold Wing >>motorcyclists are the safest motorcyclists on the roads due mostly >>to the superior engineering that goes into their production coupled >>with the fact that most Gold Wing drivers are over the age of 40. >>He feels if the ban is to remain there should be some allowance given >>to drivers of Gold Wing motorcycles. Amemiya stated Soichiro Honda, >>founder of the Honda Motor Corporation who was a racer at one time, >>was known for his research and development of the safest touring >>machines in the world. >> >>Virginia Coalition of Motorcyclists (CVCOM) president has stated >>they will ignore the ban en masse and ride the Dragon on Sunday, >>May 5 with intentions of starting a class action suite claiming the >>American right to 'freedom to travel where ever they please'. The >>Kawasaki Concours Group have stated they will be joining in with >>the CVCOM to help support their action. BMW Owners of Georgia, >>a motorcycle club of over 200 members have taken a collection to >>help pay for any lawyers fees. >> >>Tennessee Tourist Development Commissioner John A Wade was >>quoted as saying "It will be hard on the tourist trade in the area >>which >>looks forward to hosting so many motorcyclists that visit here but we >>have contingincy plans to re-route any motorcyclists to the Great >>Smokey Mountain roadways where there are plenty of other good >>roads for motorcyclists to enjoy". >> >>John Bruce Saltsman Sr. Tennessee's Commissioner of transportation >>said there were plans on the book to re-construct that portion of >>Deal's Gap to a controlled access multi-laned highway but that construction >>was not slated until 2001. Wayne Shakelford, North Carolina's >>Transportation commissioner stated " We have been considering >>straightening out a few of the more dangerous curves along this >>stretch of highway but because of the mountainous topography >>the costs are prohibitive at this time". >> >>Governor Sundquist who himself is a motorcyclist stated "Unfortunately >>we are forced to ban all motorcycles and not just the crotch rockets >>and rice burners that are causing all the trouble". >> >>End of newspaper article. >> >>Apparently there will be an article in the 'American Motorcyclist' >>Magazine in May's issue. Look for more details in the magazine >>article. >> >>This issue boggles the mind (at least mine). It is even more >>outrageous than states like Florida permitting communities to pass >>bans on cruising sailboats anchoring in their harbors. Some >>communities (Puget Sound islands) have tried to ban jet-skiis from >>their harbors but have lost in court. >> >>Now please don't shoot the messenger. For further information >>there is more about this road closure on >>http://www.dallas.net/~jsides/dealsgap.html > >> >> >>Norm Hustad >>AMA, HRCA, IBA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:56:26 -0800 "PC800: SHOCKING NEWS!" (Apr 1, 1:21pm) To: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Jay Gulledge Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! With all due respect to those who live in those states, I see this as just another reason to stay the hell out of any state below the Mason Dixon Line. Vote with your dollars. Let the bastards wallow in their poor economies and ingnorance! Ramin (so what else is new) Keyvan -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:04:09 -0900 To: "Ramin Keyvan" From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <3.0.2.32.19980401132136.006b9f54@jarvis.ims.uaf.edu> At 14:56 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >With all due respect to those who live in those states, I see this as just >another reason to stay the hell out of any state below the Mason Dixon Line. >Vote with your dollars. Let the bastards wallow in their poor economies and >ingnorance! > >Ramin (so what else is new) Keyvan Ramin, before you feel like you would never visit down there, make sure you visit the homepage listed at the bottom of the message. It might just change your mind :-) Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:36:10 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! Before anyone else responds to this you MUST check out the URL at the end. :-) At 02:04 PM 4/1/98 -0900, you wrote: >At 14:56 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >>With all due respect to those who live in those states, I see this as just >>another reason to stay the hell out of any state below the Mason Dixon Line. >>Vote with your dollars. Let the bastards wallow in their poor economies and >>ingnorance! >> >>Ramin (so what else is new) Keyvan > >Ramin, before you feel like you would never visit down there, make sure you >visit the homepage listed at the bottom of the message. It might just >change your mind :-) > >Juan > >Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 >School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 >University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat >(907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:55:10 +0000 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories I haven't had a bike for quite a while. Are there any good mail order accessory catalogs? Does J.C. Whitney have one? How 'bout online? Pat McNew 96 PC800T -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:14:18 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:15:19 -0500 From: dave wilson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1989 PC 800 Hello! I'm a first-time writer looking for opinions. I currently own a '93 GoldWing, which I love. However, I'm 63, and want something more maneuverable for use around town, and for overnite trips when luggage space is not a problem. I've found an '89 with 3300 miles, an oversized windshield and passenger backrest. The owner is asking $3500, which I think is high for a PC which is over 9 years old, and still has the original tires, which he says are fine, but I'd replace - just to be safe at highway speeds. Any comments or advice will be greatly appreciated. Dave Wilson 93 Aspencade (black) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) 2 Apr 1998 02:26:21 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:23:29 -0600 From: Mike Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me To: Jason , Karen and Tom Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Whats the mystique? about 5 years ago I was driving in San Francisco with my wife trying to find my way back to the freeway... Drove by a small motorcycle lot, spotted a bike that really caught my eye. Told my wife- Hey thats it! (she looked at me weird because I haven't had a bike before at that time, but knew I was remotely interested in motorcycles, but never did anything about it). Well, had to stop, walked over to the bike It was a pearl white pacific coast. Sat on it. Felt good. Just knew I had to have it someday... After that, got a copy of the PC specs from somewhere. Nothing happened until the commute to the Bay area got soooo bad that I could justify to my wife buying a motorcycle. Immediately went to find a PC!. That was last April! Ahhhhhhhh! No regrets! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jason To: Karen and Tom Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 9:37 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me I know what you guys mean. I had never ridden when I bought my 94. Spent some time on this and other lists asking questions. After doing a lot of research, it was the only bike that fit the riding profile. Most sport touring machines seem to have so much emphasis on sport that they are not comfortable. Alternatively, the whole GoldWing type machine seems too unwieldy for high traffic around town riding. I drove from MA to Washington DC and paid cash. $4500 for a 94 with 16K and extensive modifications. yahoo! It was a year ago and I am still excited about it. Karen and Tom wrote: > > Sounds like the story behind me buying my PC. I was in the market for > something bigger than my 500 Shadow. Read a few articles on the PC even saw > one in person.Made a few phone calls and found a used 89 with 6000 miles on > it at a dealer 200 miles away.Bought it site unseen putting my trust in what > I read and Honda. I haven't been disappointed. > > Tom Boynton > 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Thomas Brown" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: 1989 PC 800 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:20:11 -0800 Importance: Normal $3500 is currently high bluebook on an 89. With those few miles and if it is in prime shape, that would be appropriate, but I wouldn't hesitate to push him a few bucks off on the tires. The most you could see the tires being is about $200. In actuality, I have seen 89s range from $2200 to $3600 recently which keeps them pretty close to high and low bluebook. hope this helps tom > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of > dave wilson > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 6:15 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: 1989 PC 800 > > > Hello! I'm a first-time writer looking for opinions. I currently own a > '93 GoldWing, which I love. However, I'm 63, and want something more > maneuverable for use around town, and for overnite trips when luggage > space is not a problem. I've found an '89 with 3300 miles, an oversized > windshield and passenger backrest. The owner is asking $3500, which I > think is high for a PC which is over 9 years old, and still has the > original tires, which he says are fine, but I'd replace - just to be > safe at highway speeds. > > Any comments or advice will be greatly appreciated. > Dave Wilson > 93 Aspencade (black) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 1998 03:30:36 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:30:20 -0800 To: winston94@worldnet.att.net From: Guy & Sonya Subject: Re: PC800: 1989 PC 800 Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >I've found an '89 with 3300 miles, an oversized >windshield and passenger backrest. The owner is asking $3500, which I >think is high for a PC which is over 9 years old, and still has the >original tires, which he says are fine, but I'd replace - just to be >safe at highway speeds. Dave, I bought a '89 with 45,500 miles on it with no upgrades (except the service manuals) for $2,750. Somebody rode it pretty hard over the years and I've had to put a lot into it. I, now, would glady pay more to have a "newer" '89. If you could get it for $3,200 to $3,300, I think you would have gotten a good deal! -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:34:56 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: Windshield Cleaners Polishers I have checked the archives and cannot find anything about scratch removers, cleaners, polishers for PC windshields. I have 94 that looks hazy and has many small scratchs. Anyone have any suggestions? I did get a name "Can Do" from the list but don't know what it can do. :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:55:17 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield Cleaners Polishers In a message dated 4/1/98 11:35:50 PM Central Standard Time, di9731@vci.net writes: << I have checked the archives and cannot find anything about scratch removers, cleaners, polishers for PC windshields. I have 94 that looks hazy and has many small scratchs. Anyone have any suggestions? I did get a name "Can Do" from the list but don't know what it can do. :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider >> I ordered some "Can Do" from Saeng today along with my edging. We have been using a product called "Plexus" and also the Cycle Care Formula 3 which is their all purpose polish. No guarantee that anything will take off a haze if someone has messed up the finish on your windshield, but any of the good products will fill minor windshield scratches and give you a nice finish that will be easier to keep clean. Lynda Miller 90 PC, 10,700 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:46:17 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , "Honda Pacific Coast Group" Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:32:01 -0500 Try HTPP//WWW.ACCWHSE.COM ---------- > From: Pat McNew > To: Honda Pacific Coast Group > Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories > Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 3:55 PM > > I haven't had a bike for quite a while. Are there any good mail order > accessory catalogs? Does J.C. Whitney have one? How 'bout online? > > Pat McNew > 96 PC800T > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:56:56 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: pmcnew@bellsouth.net, "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories Click and go. J. C. has a motorcycle catalog you can order. I have it but didn't see any thing I had to have yet. J.C.Whitney - Everything Automotive  AEROSTICH & THE RIDERWEARHOUSE CATALOG  RIFLE Fairings 1-800-262-1237  Corbin Motorcycle Saddles (800)538-7035  Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse. Thousands of items at LOW!, LOW! prices. We carry Helmets, Exhausts, Tires, Apparel and more.  GiVi - English  Sierra Electronics  sport touring accessories The rest are a few other favorites. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:53:37 -0500 From: Jason To: -PC800 Subject: PC800: Scuff marks from boots After every ride there are scuff marks on the bike from the inside of my boots rubbing against the plastic. I've been thinking of getting some 4" square rubberized stick-on patches and adhereing one to each side. Anyone on the list have the same problem? Any alternative solutions? -Jason Grant 94 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Lucas" To: "-PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Scuff marks from boots Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:45:53 -0800 I've seen the scuffs occasionally. I tend to keep the bike well waxed and that seems to help. I also don't wax my boots too heavily. I find the good old Turtle Wax takes off the scuffs and don't worry about it much. Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jason To: -PC800 Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 5:51 AM Subject: PC800: Scuff marks from boots After every ride there are scuff marks on the bike from the inside of my boots rubbing against the plastic. I've been thinking of getting some 4" square rubberized stick-on patches and adhereing one to each side. Anyone on the list have the same problem? Any alternative solutions? -Jason Grant 94 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:24:08 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Deal's Gap - April Fool? To: John Castagna , Cory Estes , Danny Gordon , Ron Maudlin <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "Samuel \"Todd\" Nunnally" , "Donald L. \"Moose\" Parish" , HSTA State Directors , HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Upon closer inspection of the Deal's Gap closure article, and a conversation with Dick Chambers, one of our SC members, we have decided that the entire article is a farse...APRIL FOOL! Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:54:35 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Jason CC: -PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Scuff marks from boots Honda makes a skuff pad kit. PN08162-MR530
It's clear stickers that apply like window tint film. You wet the stickers and the bike and apply, then let dry. They cover the front end of the trunk, and around both front and rear foot pegs. A total of 6 pads per side. They come with a squeegee and instructions. Price at the Honda website Honda Motorcycles - Touring is $40.
Steve Wilson
Ruston LA
95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA04813; Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:07:37 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: pmcnew@bellsouth.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:10:18 -0800 A lot of people have been burned by Motorcycles Accessories Warehouse on the net. The most common rouse is that the item is promised to be in stock when it is not. Your VISA is charged immediately, but it could be weeks or months before you get delivery on your order. This is the consensus reached on another newsgroup as a lot of people shared their experiences. Todd Vierheller '96 BMW R1100RTL Seattle, WA > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat McNew [SMTP:pmcnew@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 12:55 PM > To: Honda Pacific Coast Group > Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Accessories > > I haven't had a bike for quite a while. Are there any good mail order > accessory catalogs? Does J.C. Whitney have one? How 'bout online? > > Pat McNew > 96 PC800T > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:17:15 CST by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA04865; Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:14:27 -0800 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:17:09 -0800 From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com Subject: RE: PC800: Scuff marks from boots To: Crazyapple@ibm.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I used an alternative solution on my tank to keep from taking all of the paint off. (I hold on with my knees, a hold-over from my past of riding horses.) At most motorcycle shops, and certainly at any dirt bike shop, you should be able to find a product called N-Style. It is three sheets of heavy (12 mil I think) contact paper used for racing numbers (I don't know how). Each sheet is approximately 12 x 17 and the three in the package cost about $18-$20. I don't know if this would meet your needs or not. The clear covering would probably still get black marks on it. For my purposes, it protected my paint nicely. (I also had the Honda scuff kit, but it didn't protect the tank at all.) Just a thought for you. Todd Vierheller '96 BMW R1100RTL Seattle, WA > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason [SMTP:Crazyapple@ibm.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 5:54 AM > To: -PC800 > Subject: PC800: Scuff marks from boots > > After every ride there are scuff marks on the bike from the inside of > my > boots rubbing against the plastic. I've been thinking of getting some > 4" > square rubberized stick-on patches and adhereing one to each side. > Anyone > on the list have the same problem? > > Any alternative solutions? > > -Jason Grant > 94 PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:46:20 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Sparky question Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:41:09 -0500 Remove the plug in question, Attach it to the boot, ground the electrode (tip) to the engine, turn out the lights and push the starter button. You should see a spark arc the gap. Mike Whited ' 94 PC ---------- > From: ruf@nconnect.net > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Sparky question > Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 9:03 AM > > I recently changed plugs on my '89. Much to my surprise, a plastic/rubber > plug cover on the front left cylinder was cracked in half so I don't even > know if it was "sparking" properly. I picked up a new cap yesterday and > installed. The cap literally screws on to the wire. I think I got it seated > correctly but am wondering if there is a relatively simple way of checking > to see if I have spark to that plug. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:27:01 CST by ernie.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA04954; Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:24:07 -0800 Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:26:49 -0800 From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com Subject: RE: PC800: Beyond me To: m.vervelde@MCI2000.com, Crazyapple@ibm.net, malcolm@redsuspenders.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu No mystique, just incredibly good design. For once, someone designed a motorcycle to be ridden and used rather than looked at. The PC800 almost didn't survive because of that. (Note the lack of the 91-93 model years.) I commuted daily and had been doing so for many years on a '82 Honda CM450E when the PC came out in '89. I knew it was the bike for me. Unfortunately, at that time in my life the CM450E had many years left and the PC was far out of my price range. :-( Eight years later, my financial status was a bit more robust, and while my CM450E still had another 65,000 miles in it, I had had enough of chain maintenance. After I bought the PC800, I realized that I had no desire to look at other motorcycles. When I had my 450, I always dreamed of other bikes (the PC for quite a few years). The Pacific Coast is a beautiful fit of form and function. It is the ultimate motorcycle for people who do a lot of in-town riding or a lot of day long trips. (For extensive touring, the Gold Wing is *the* bike.) No mystique. Just good design. Could it be improved? Yes. ABS, six gears, a clock, and an optional stereo would go a long way. So would a yellow paint scheme ;-). Todd Vierheller '96 BMW R1100RTL Seattle, WA > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Ver Velde [SMTP:m.vervelde@MCI2000.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 4:23 PM > To: Jason; Karen and Tom > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me > > Whats the mystique? about 5 years ago I was driving in San Francisco > with > my wife trying to find my way back to the freeway... Drove by a small > motorcycle lot, spotted a bike that really caught my eye. Told my > wife- Hey > thats it! (she looked at me weird because I haven't had a bike before > at > that time, but knew I was remotely interested in motorcycles, but > never did > anything about it). Well, had to stop, walked over to the bike It was > a > pearl white pacific coast. Sat on it. Felt good. Just knew I had to > have it > someday... After that, got a copy of the PC specs from somewhere. > Nothing > happened until the commute to the Bay area got soooo bad that I could > justify to my wife buying a motorcycle. Immediately went to find a > PC!. That > was last April! Ahhhhhhhh! No regrets! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason > To: Karen and Tom > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me > > > I know what you guys mean. I had never ridden when I bought my 94. > Spent > some time on this and other lists asking questions. After doing a lot > of > research, it was the only bike that fit the riding profile. > > Most sport touring machines seem to have so much emphasis on sport > that > they are not comfortable. Alternatively, the whole GoldWing type > machine > seems too unwieldy for high traffic around town riding. > > I drove from MA to Washington DC and paid cash. > > $4500 for a 94 with 16K and extensive modifications. yahoo! > It was a year ago and I am still excited about it. > > Karen and Tom wrote: > > > > Sounds like the story behind me buying my PC. I was in the market > for > > something bigger than my 500 Shadow. Read a few articles on the PC > even > saw > > one in person.Made a few phone calls and found a used 89 with 6000 > miles > on > > it at a dealer 200 miles away.Bought it site unseen putting my trust > in > what > > I read and Honda. I haven't been disappointed. > > > > Tom Boynton > > 89PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DJewsb Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:30:10 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Windshield It was great to hear that somebody still gives good service. I just ordered a new windshield from Rifle, sounds like I made a good choice. I'm glad to know that there is another PC rider in the Denver area. I may contact you with questions on how to install my new Rifle. Doug Jewsbury Berthoud, Colorado 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:31:25 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Sparky question At 06:41 4/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >Remove the plug in question, Attach it to the boot, ground the electrode >(tip) to the engine, turn out the lights and push the starter button. You >should see a spark arc the gap. Make triple sure that the plug is grounded. Otherwise you could fry the ignition black box. Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Eyrich" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: How Much Saeng Edging? Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:53:11 PST I recently obtained a Honda Tall windshield in a swap with another Mail list member (Thanks Lynda!!). I think I want to add the Saeng edging to increase the envelope. I am also still kicking around the idea of a 29" Rifle. My question is: How much edging is needed for the Rifle? Do people usually have the edging around the entire shield or just the top 1/3 or something? How about on the Honda Tall shield? When I buy the edging I want to make sure I get enough to fit either shield. Thanks, Greg Eyrich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:16:11 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:08:49 -0500 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: 1989 PC 800 To: PC800 List $3500 is a little high - I paid $4000 two years ago for my 89 with 4,000 miles on it - but that was at a dealer. Overall, I've been VERY happy with my 89, as I'm sure you will be. But a couple of words of advice. First - replace the rear original tire right away! It is probably a Dunlop K555, and, if so, will eat a hole in the le= ft side of the inner trunk liner within a couple of thousand miles, particularly if you ride two-up. You can review the archives for more detail on this problem, but basically the 89's had a trunk-design problem= that was fixed on the 90 model. The K555 is just a little too wide, and rubs on the liner. The K177 does not have this problem, and is a better tire anyway. Second, although I haven't experienced this (yet), you will likely run in= to the famous stator problem at around 24,000 miles (just about everyone on this list with an 89 seems to have had this problem - again, check the archives for details). Replacing it will cost around $400, so this may gi= ve you some additional ammunition to knock the price down a tad. Steve Schibuola Brea, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:00:59 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Looking for part #'s. Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:57:47 -0500 Hi all, Does anyone know the part numbers for the "rear wing" and lower rear fairing for the PC? I assume they are no longer produced as they are not listed in Honda's parts books according to 4 different dealers I've contacted ( if, in fact they are/were Honda products to begin with ). Also, a note to those who own or buy a 97 PC: Honda still lists the front mudguard, but it is designed for the 96 and previous model year front treatment. Once again, 4 dealers cannot find a Honda part for my PC that will extend the new style's protection. If anyone can "dig up" the part numbers for me (Phil?), it will be much appreciated. Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800, 523 (S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:35:27 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:36:28 -0500 From: Dave Wilson To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Purchase of a 1989 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: members of the PC800 List I'm overwhelmed! About 10 minutes after I sent my message last night, I had 2 replies. They haven't stopped since! I can't possibly thank you all, so I'm using the list. If I buy the bike tonight, I plan to replace the tires with the Dunlops most of you recommended. Included in the negotiation is the fact that the stator will most likely require replacement. I forgot to ask your experiences with adding radios and/or CB's. My local dealer says the factory radio is not good, and didn't even know if they're still available. CB's? I know one couple on the list has a stereo, no less. For those who asked, I'm putting my location below. Thanks for any comments or advice. Dave Wilson Red Bank, NJ winston94@worldnet.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id TAA07540 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:45:34 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Windshield Cleaners Polishers Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:40:19 -0500 Blue Magic Plastic and Plexiglass Cleaner/Polish works great. It's inexpensive and available from auto parts stores like AutoZone, PepBoys, etc. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doug [SMTP:di9731@vci.net] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 12:35 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Windshield Cleaners Polishers I have checked the archives and cannot find anything about scratch removers, cleaners, polishers for PC windshields. I have 94 that looks hazy and has many small scratchs. Anyone have any suggestions? I did get a name "Can Do" from the list but don't know what it can do. :-) Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:50:37 -0500 From: Jeff Leech To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: How Much Saeng Edging? I've got a Hondaline Tall shield, and put Saeng edging on it. I used 3 feet, and it fits on each side to just above where the shield gets wider where it clears the handlebars. 4 ft would probably cover the entire distance. I really like the extra envelope it adds, I would estimate a 2-3 inch increase at 60+ mph, and a bit more under 45 mph. The cost is $10 per foot length. I believe it is only sold in 1 foot increments. Jeff Leech Centerville, OH '94 Pacific Coast '95 Buell S-2 Thunderbolt Greg Eyrich wrote: > > I recently obtained a Honda Tall windshield in a swap with another Mail > list member (Thanks Lynda!!). I think I want to add the Saeng edging to > increase the envelope. I am also still kicking around the idea of a 29" > Rifle. > > My question is: How much edging is needed for the Rifle? Do people > usually have the edging around the entire shield or just the top 1/3 or > something? How about on the Honda Tall shield? > > When I buy the edging I want to make sure I get enough to fit either > shield. > > Thanks, > > Greg Eyrich > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id TAA07969 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:55:15 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: How Much Saeng Edging? Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:53:00 -0500 The tall rifle shield requires 4.5 feet to cover the entire perimeter - you'll have about an inch left over. I had this at one time but now I use only a 14 or 15" piece across the top. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Eyrich [SMTP:greg_eyrich@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 1:53 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: How Much Saeng Edging? I recently obtained a Honda Tall windshield in a swap with another Mail list member (Thanks Lynda!!). I think I want to add the Saeng edging to increase the envelope. I am also still kicking around the idea of a 29" Rifle. My question is: How much edging is needed for the Rifle? Do people usually have the edging around the entire shield or just the top 1/3 or something? How about on the Honda Tall shield? When I buy the edging I want to make sure I get enough to fit either shield. Thanks, Greg Eyrich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:39:42 +0200 Besides the fact that it is the most beauifull bike I've ever seen, allmost maintenance free, allmost as luxureous as a Goldwing yet small and maneuverable enough to commute through heavy traffic jams, with the potential to chase Ducati's over the dutch dikes (okay, so you'll never catch 'm on a straight end), it's also one of the few bikes on which I can fit my tall body (a Pan-European is too small for my legs). Provided the PC800 is fitted with a tall windscreen, that is. And above that, it's about half the price of a BMW (except for those '70 models maybe). Somehow the people of Honda did a bad marketing-job on this bike, I guess. I wonder how that '97 model is selling. I saw one in the wild last week for the first time and I found my red '90 a lot nicer than that red '97. It also might have been a '96, I'm not sure. The lack of chrome is better, but the lack of the front wheel cover is no improvement. Did they also do this because of insurance-reasons? BTW, the closing of roads to motorcycles may sound like a april-fool's joke to most of you (american) e-mailers, in Holland they are seriousely thinking about closing some beautifull swirling dike-roads to motorcycles because of some tree-huggers protesting against the noise of some bike owners with non-standard chimneys on their machines. Guess I'll have to enjoy those dike-roads as much as possible before they close 'm...... Emile Nossin Flying Dutchman,' 90 PC800 Santpoort, Holland Emile@Bikers.com ---------- > Van: Mike Ver Velde > Aan: Jason ; Karen and Tom > CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: Beyond me > Datum: donderdag 2 april 1998 2:23 > > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > Whats the mystique? about 5 years ago I was driving in San Francisco with > my wife trying to find my way back to the freeway... Drove by a small > motorcycle lot, spotted a bike that really caught my eye. Told my wife- Hey > thats it! (she looked at me weird because I haven't had a bike before at > that time, but knew I was remotely interested in motorcycles, but never did > anything about it). Well, had to stop, walked over to the bike It was a > pearl white pacific coast. Sat on it. Felt good. Just knew I had to have it > someday... After that, got a copy of the PC specs from somewhere. Nothing > happened until the commute to the Bay area got soooo bad that I could > justify to my wife buying a motorcycle. Immediately went to find a PC!. That > was last April! Ahhhhhhhh! No regrets! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason > To: Karen and Tom > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: PC800: Beyond me > > > I know what you guys mean. I had never ridden when I bought my 94. Spent > some time on this and other lists asking questions. After doing a lot of > research, it was the only bike that fit the riding profile. > > Most sport touring machines seem to have so much emphasis on sport that > they are not comfortable. Alternatively, the whole GoldWing type machine > seems too unwieldy for high traffic around town riding. > > I drove from MA to Washington DC and paid cash. > > $4500 for a 94 with 16K and extensive modifications. yahoo! > It was a year ago and I am still excited about it. > > Karen and Tom wrote: > > > > Sounds like the story behind me buying my PC. I was in the market for > > something bigger than my 500 Shadow. Read a few articles on the PC even > saw > > one in person.Made a few phone calls and found a used 89 with 6000 miles > on > > it at a dealer 200 miles away.Bought it site unseen putting my trust in > what > > I read and Honda. I haven't been disappointed. > > > > Tom Boynton > > 89PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:41:34 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Beyond me At 02:39 4/3/98 +0200, Emile Nossin wrote: > The lack of chrome is better, but the lack of the front wheel cover is no >improvement.Did they also do this because of insurance-reasons? Not insurance, but rather marketing (trying to have a broader appeal) and economics (it is cheaper to produce). Ilike the looks of the front wheel, but when the bike is seen complete it looks off balance, with an anorexic front end IMHO. >BTW, the closing of roads to motorcycles may sound like a april-fool's joke >to most of you (american) e-mailers, in Holland they are seriousely >thinking about closing some beautifull swirling dike-roads to motorcycles because >of some tree-huggers protesting against the noise of some bike owners >with non-standard chimneys on their machines. Guess I'll have to enjoy >those dike-roads as much as possible before they close 'm...... This is one of the best arguments for self policing. If we don't keep ourselves in check, someone else will try to do so, for our "benefit." I hope they don't close your roads, but if they do, you are welcome to join us over here, where we still have a few good and open roads :-) Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: re: PC800: Scuff marks from boots Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:31:28 -0800 I've found that a slightly wet rag with a little amount of comet (yep, the cleanser in the green can!) works wonders in taking off these marks. Sounds odd but it leaves an excellent shine free of any blemish :-). Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BfK01673; Fri, 03 Apr 1998 01:51:00 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:45:52 -0800 Subject: PC800: Keep On Smiling! Speaking of "grins"...I found out something neat about Word 7.0 the other day. I was typing a letter to a friend and decided to put the :-) in it at the end...and when I put it in, Word 7.0 changed it to a smiley-face! A programmer with a sense of humor, perhaps? Tim Macy Portland, OR The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 67,669 Miles "There's no place like http://www.home.com" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BfL01673; Fri, 03 Apr 1998 01:51:00 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:50:00 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: Side-stand warmups On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:01:57 -0500 rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) writes: > What, if any harm can result from starting a bike and letting it warm up under >choke while tilted to the side on the side stand? I've warmed the Stealth up from Day One in exactly that manner. However, as soon as the revs start to increase, I shut off the choke. Don't want to load it up too much and foul the plugs... Hmmm....never had a fouled plug. Wonder if there's a connection? :-}} Tim Macy Portland, OR The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 67,669 Miles "There's no place like http://www.home.com" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "lisastew" To: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:27:28 +0200 To whom it may concern, Now Trailboss tours is offering an unforgettable bike tour from San Diego to Baja California. If any of you guys are interested just let me know in order to receive further information. Do not hesitate to e-mail me, call me or write to get free info about the real experience. Xavier Borràs (Trailboss tours) e-mail: lisastew@atlas-iap.es Phone: +34/70/ 364828 Adress: /Paborde Jaume 16 07320 Sta Maria (Mallorca) Spain -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:16:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: "Spain, Harrison" , Subject: RE: PC800: Scuff marks from boots Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:15:09 -0800 Importance: Normal << I've found that a slightly wet rag with a little amount of comet (yep, the cleanser in the green can!) works wonders in taking off these marks.>> A direct shot of Honda spray and a bit of elbow grease will remove the boot scuffs as well. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:16:25 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: riding in the pocket.... Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:15:07 -0800 Importance: Normal I heard it described once as "traffic surfing" - you surf to the open areas between the packs cars. You have the option of staying put or looking for wholes up ahead and gracefully hopping from hole to hole. Great way to relief driving stress as well as stay safe. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:16:23 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: Keep On Smiling! Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:15:04 -0800 Importance: Normal <> If you only knew the truth - of course! Actually, it's part of a feature called AutoCorrect. Other faces you can get :| or :-| will give you a straigh face and :( or -( will give you a frown face. -bryceu, former Microsoft Mafia ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu] On Behalf Of timmacy@juno.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 9:46 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Keep On Smiling! Speaking of "grins"...I found out something neat about Word 7.0 the other day. I was typing a letter to a friend and decided to put the :-) in it at the end...and when I put it in, Word 7.0 changed it to a smiley-face! A programmer with a sense of humor, perhaps? Tim Macy Portland, OR The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 67,669 Miles "There's no place like http://www.home.com" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:12:44 -0600 To: "John Louk" From: "Richard A. Nadeau" Subject: PC800: Re: Combination Radio Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu John, I installed the 3-in-radio last weekend and tested it on the road for 500 miles. It works great. Even though it does pick up a little noise from the fan when the fan kicks in. It is not enough to worry about, but I am going to try the in-line noise eliminator that someone on the list suggested. I mounted the radio bracket on the left handlebar cover. That meant removing the cover and drilling 2 holes and attaching the bracket. Once you put the covers back on, you are done unless you do not want to use the radio batteries. For power, I tapped into the fuse box which is on the left side and ran a quick disconnect wire to the left compartment. I changed the radio power cord from the cigarrette lighter plug to the other end of the quick disconnect plug. When I use the radio, I run the wire from the compartment to the radio. So far, this has been the best option that I have found. I get FM, CB and weather and the display & controls are within easy reach. Richard Nadeau Nashville, TN 96 PC 2000 milea and counting At 10:39 PM 4/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >How's the CB/Weather/FM radio working out? I'm about to spring for one. >Also, any recommendations on helmet headset manufacturers? > >John Louk >Carmel, IN >'90 PC "Ruby" > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:17:59 -0500 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Richard A. Nadeau" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 07:12:44AM -0600, Richard A. Nadeau wrote: -> -> I installed the 3-in-radio last weekend and tested it on the road for 500 -> miles. It works great. Even though it does pick up a little noise from the -> fan when the fan kicks in. It is not enough to worry about, but I am going -> to try the in-line noise eliminator that someone on the list suggested. I -> mounted the radio bracket on the left handlebar cover. That meant removing -> the cover and drilling 2 holes and attaching the bracket. Once you put the -> covers back on, you are done unless you do not want to use the radio -> batteries. For power, I tapped into the fuse box which is on the left side -> and ran a quick disconnect wire to the left compartment. I changed the radio -> power cord from the cigarrette lighter plug to the other end of the quick -> disconnect plug. When I use the radio, I run the wire from the compartment -> to the radio. So far, this has been the best option that I have found. I get -> FM, CB and weather and the display & controls are within easy reach. Do you have a URL for that 3-in-1 radio? - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:32:35 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Dave Bartlett CC: "Richard A. Nadeau" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio I think this is the site you asked for. I think this is the radio he has. Audio Products and Repair -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Side-stand warmups Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:29:17 +0200 Now I'm not an engineer, but so far I can recall from several flying instructors telling me, fouling the plugs occurs from running the engine with a low RPM. Offcourse running the engine with the choke on results in a richer mixture, but as so long as your not riding the bike my guess is it's better to let the bike warm up a little bit faster (a cold engine doesn't run smooth either) than to let it idle at low RPM. The best thing is to start riding asap and then get the choke down. The handbook advises to let the engine run at fast idle (1500-2500 RPM) for about half a minute, before closing the choke (at normal temperatures), aIthough think that's not really environmental-friendly (noise and polution). Aircraft with piston engines have, like the PC800, two spark plugs per cilinder. This burns the mixture more efficiently, but is in aircraft mainly because of safety (redundancy), since every plug in each cilinder is connected to another, independant, ignition system (2 ignition systems total). Each ignition system can be switched on or off from the cockpit and during the engine runup you can see the significant effect low idling has on the spark plugs when you turn off one igintion system, effectively making all the cilinders run on one spark plug each. If you, for example, taxied the previous minutes with 800 RPM instead of 1200 RPM, the drop in RPM can be 200 RPM instead of a normal 20-50 RPM. High RPM leaning usually cleans the plugs again. How do you know you never had a fouled plug,Tim ? The low-rev strategy is probably meant to stay silent-running and therefore truly stealthy, right ? :)) Emile Nossin Flying Dutchman,' 90 PC800 Santpoort, Holland Emile@Bikers.com ------- > Van: timmacy@juno.com > Aan: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: Side-stand warmups > Datum: vrijdag 3 april 1998 7:50 > > > On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:01:57 -0500 rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) > writes: > > > What, if any harm can result from starting a bike and letting it warm > up under >choke while tilted to the side on the side stand? > > I've warmed the Stealth up from Day One in exactly that manner. However, > as soon as the revs start to increase, I shut off the choke. Don't want > to load it up too much and foul the plugs... > > Hmmm....never had a fouled plug. Wonder if there's a connection? :-}} > > Tim Macy > Portland, OR > The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 67,669 Miles > > "There's no place like http://www.home.com" > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:46:09 EST To: Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 Parts Does anyone remember the name or URL of the outift that was selling factory honda parts at 15-25% off list with no shipping charges? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: Scot Piper Subject: PC800: Pacific Coast recognition To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu FYI - I just visited www.traderonline.com and did a search for PC800's. There are 42 listed in the USA. Mostly '89 models. Asking prices seem to be holding. Does anyone know how many models of each year Honda made for the USA? Interesting trivia, Traderonline uses an '89 PC800 as their cover bike for advertising motorcycles. Cool! Scot '89 PC800 13,950 miles ------------ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:15:42 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: JLicari721 CC: Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Parts Banzai Parts 1.800.405.7283 Bill JLicari721 wrote: > > Does anyone remember the name or URL of the outift that was selling factory > honda parts at 15-25% off list with no shipping charges? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA The worst Wintah I evah spent was a springtime in Maine... http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:48:18 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Huh? > Now Trailboss tours is offering an unforgettable bike tour from San Diego >to Baja California. Interesting that someone from the Balearic Islands in the Mediterranean is conducting a tour from SD to Baja. I guess the world really is getting smaller :-) Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "David B. Partington" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Tall Windshield querry Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:03:21 -0700 Hello Does anyone have a tall windshield laying around they would like to = sell. I dont really care if its in used condition. I have a Black 94 PC = with a stock windshield. A Rifle or Hondaline is fine, I dont really = care what size rifle. Please respond to me direct at = dave@partington.net. Thanks DaveP -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: sort by state Date: Fri, 3 Apr 98 17:54:55 -0500 From: Charles To: "Guy & Sonya" , "PC800 List Server" Hi, Guy and Sonya - Count me in - Name: Charles Shepler Marion, Indiana. I have a red '96, bought new in April, '96 - 15K miles. I think it's a great bike. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: speerboy@juno.com by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UsG18760; Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:01:37 EST To: bmckenna@mint.net Cc: JLicari721@aol.com, Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Helmeted? Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:01:37 EST Dear folks, Does anyone happen to have a list of states that it's legal to ride in without a helmet?? Gary Smith speerboy@juno.com lookin' for a new hair-do _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:09:48 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: Steve & Diane Scudder CC: PC800 Listserve Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. Hi Steve! Well, you're in luck!! The previous owner kept very good records and I have the part numbers for the upper and lower rear spoilers. The upper spoiler is 08F63-MR5-A40 and was installed on 4/5/93 at a cost of $159.95 plus tax. The lower spoiler is 08F63-MR5-A80 and was installed on 12/9/94 at a cost of $162.95 plus tax. If anyone is interested, I will sell these two items for the nominal charge of only $4000 dollars and that includes a free PC800 with all accessories!! See Ya' all later, Phil -------------------------- Steve & Diane Scudder wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know the part numbers for the "rear wing" and lower rear fairing > for the PC? > I assume they are no longer produced as they are not listed in Honda's parts > books according to 4 different dealers I've contacted ( if, in fact they > are/were Honda products to begin with ). > Also, a note to those who own or buy a 97 PC: Honda still lists the front > mudguard, but it is designed for the 96 and previous model year front > treatment. Once again, 4 dealers cannot find a Honda part for my PC that > will extend the new style's protection. > If anyone can "dig up" the part numbers for me (Phil?), it will be much > appreciated. > > Steve Scudder > greyhound@bizgroup.net > How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! > 97 PC800, 523 (S)miles > Grand Rapids, MI -- ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. * ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:54:36 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Ramin Keyvan CC: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Jay Gulledge Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! Ramin Keyvan, With an off the cuff, ignorant response like that we would just as soon you stay away too. With a name like yours, I would expect a bit more understanding before showing such ignorant prejudice. If you don't know yet, it was all an April Fools joke. I guess it found one. Steve Wilson Ruston LA 95 Pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VKX18556; Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:55:15 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:57:01 -0500 Subject: PC800: Helmet Headsets From: swift24@juno.com (John D Louk) So OK, I'm losing my memory. That being understood, I'm preparing to purchase a helmet headset for use with one of those frushlugginer (new word) 3-in-1 portable FM/CB/WX radios from Sierra in Troy, Ohio. Only, I'd prefer not to mortgage the non-riding spouse unit to purchase it. Recommendations? (Other than ditching the non-riding spouse unit, that is!) I hear J&M but I also hear pricy. Your input is, as always, most welcome. I didn't find much in the archives using the search engine there. Thanks, Coasters!! John Louk (Y2K dream'in!) 90 PC "Ruby" Carmel, IN _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:22:41 -0500 From: Jason To: speerboy@juno.com CC: bmckenna@mint.net, JLicari721@aol.com, Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmeted? <3525274E.10688A8E@mint.net> <19980403.200056.11415.2.speerboy@juno.com> I know that you can ride hatless in CT, but not MA. speerboy@juno.com wrote: > > Dear folks, > Does anyone happen to have a list of states that it's legal to ride in > without a helmet?? > > Gary Smith > speerboy@juno.com > lookin' for a new hair-do > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:27:16 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Headsets In a message dated 4/3/98 8:58:50 PM Central Standard Time, swift24@juno.com writes: << So OK, I'm losing my memory. That being understood, I'm preparing to purchase a helmet headset for use with one of those frushlugginer (new word) 3-in-1 portable FM/CB/WX radios from Sierra in Troy, Ohio. Only, I'd prefer not to mortgage the non-riding spouse unit to purchase it. Recommendations? (Other than ditching the non-riding spouse unit, that is!) I hear J&M but I also hear pricy. Your input is, as always, most welcome. I didn't find much in the archives using the search engine there. >> I think you only have the one choice at this time. Cruisin' Communications Corp. (out of the CycleComm ashes) is coming out with a new one in May that will range from $159 to $179 depending on the speaker power - but until then J & M is the only other choice I know of. The price range is pretty much the same. Lynda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:38:52 -0500 From: Jason To: speerboy@juno.com CC: bmckenna@mint.net, JLicari721@aol.com, Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmeted? <3525274E.10688A8E@mint.net> <19980403.200056.11415.2.speerboy@juno.com> Actually, if noone else answers, bug me in a day or so and I'll send you an accurate list. I forgot that I have a HOG magazine that covers the legalities of many motorcycle issues. Didja know that it's illegal to posses a helmet with speakers in it in Massachusettes? speerboy@juno.com wrote: > > Dear folks, > Does anyone happen to have a list of states that it's legal to ride in > without a helmet?? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 4 Apr 1998 03:42:21 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: PC800: Helmeted? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:41:00 -0800 Importance: Normal The American Motorcyclist Website has a list of the state-by-state laws. See http://www.ama-cycle.org/db/ama_laws.html The page requires the user to search the state by state so I couldn't tell you a complete list of which states do not require helmets.. Sorry. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu] On Behalf Of speerboy@juno.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 5:02 PM To: bmckenna@mint.net Cc: JLicari721@aol.com; Emile@CyberComm.nl; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Helmeted? Dear folks, Does anyone happen to have a list of states that it's legal to ride in without a helmet?? Gary Smith speerboy@juno.com lookin' for a new hair-do _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:49:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:46:03 -0500 Don't tempt me like this! I am about due for a trip out west and I think 4 bikes would be hard to justify to Diane ( especially since she's such a munchkin that she can only operate 1 and a PC800 isn't one of them! ). Thanks to all who responded to my query. Here's an update for those who may be interested: The spoilers are still available from Honda for the 89 & 90 model year PC's, but are scheduled to be discontinued very soon. They are only available in the stock 89 & 90 colors-no unfinished parts can be bought. This leaves me with a choice of a) no spoilers or b) order them and pay to have them refinished in R201 red to match my 97's color:-( ! Steve Scudder 97 PC800 523(S)miles -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Phil Lewis To: Steve & Diane Scudder Cc: PC800 Listserve Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 7:11 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. |Hi Steve! | |Well, you're in luck!! The previous owner kept very good records and I have the |part numbers for the upper and lower rear spoilers. The upper spoiler is |08F63-MR5-A40 and was installed on 4/5/93 at a cost of $159.95 plus tax. The |lower spoiler is 08F63-MR5-A80 and was installed on 12/9/94 at a cost of |$162.95 plus tax. | |If anyone is interested, I will sell these two items for the nominal charge of |only $4000 dollars and that includes a free PC800 with all accessories!! | |See Ya' all later, | |Phil | |-------------------------- | | | |Steve & Diane Scudder wrote: | |> Hi all, |> |> Does anyone know the part numbers for the "rear wing" and lower rear fairing |> for the PC? |> I assume they are no longer produced as they are not listed in Honda's parts |> books according to 4 different dealers I've contacted ( if, in fact they |> are/were Honda products to begin with ). |> Also, a note to those who own or buy a 97 PC: Honda still lists the front |> mudguard, but it is designed for the 96 and previous model year front |> treatment. Once again, 4 dealers cannot find a Honda part for my PC that |> will extend the new style's protection. |> If anyone can "dig up" the part numbers for me (Phil?), it will be much |> appreciated. |> |> Steve Scudder |> greyhound@bizgroup.net |> How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! |> 97 PC800, 523 (S)miles |> Grand Rapids, MI | | | |-- |************* |*Phil Lewis * |*'90 PC * |*"Delta Red"* |*So. Cal. * |************* | | -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:09:05 -0800 From: Dennis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 Radio I just picked up my new leftover 96 PC800. Does anyone have a idea for a good radio setup for this bike. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 00:35:04 EST To: dave@partington.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: parts for sale Lookin to sell the following: all new, never used Hondaline Passenger Backrest (pad only...no brackets) Utopia Passenger Backrest w/ storage pocket (pad only...attaches to hondaline brackets) Utopia Drivers backrest w/storage pocket -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 05:24:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark & Cathy Kaiser" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: kill switches, skuff marks and old Honda accesssories Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:13:22 -0800 Hey listers! Old Business: When I first signed on I neglected to introduce myself- how rude! Especially since I relied heavily on the posts here in trying to figure out what I was going to do for a new windshield. I've ridden/raced motorcycles for over 30 years, and ride to work every day, rain or shine. I worked in the motorcycle industry for 15 years, doing lots of different things. It was the most fun you can imagine. It's not my intent to come off as a 'know-it-all', but I have seen motorcycling from both 'inside' and 'outside' the business and I tend to get pretty excited about motorcycles and the wonderful people who can always be found around them. To me, motorcycles are one of life's great pleasures and it's easy to get carried away. I have 4 machines at the momment, an XR600 (with street legal conversion for dual sport riding), XR400, BW350, and of course 'RED', my new PC800 with about 2K on the clock. RED replaced 'MULE' a CB700SC that I ran up 67K commuter miles on. Sadly, MULE left me last night for the arms of another man. Long live MULE! With that said, Doug wrote: >While perusing the archives I ran across an article where u answered a question about alarms and mentioned a kill switch u installed. I was hoping u would share your knowledge and explain how u installed this in the side stand circuit.< Let's hope no potential PC thieves see this! While the engine is running the ignition control module must receive a signal that the side stand is up when you put the bike in gear. The module does this via the green wire with white stripe that runs down to the kickstand switch. All you have to do is install a 'single post-single throw' switch in series in the Green w/ White stripe wire. With this switch in the open position, the ignition module always thinks the side stand is down, and will kill the engine as soon as you put the bike in gear. A good place for the switch is in the area where the sidestand switch connector terminates. This is outside the left saddlebag, but under the trunk lid. This area is exposed only when the trunk is open. Look for a 'rats nest' of connectors just in front of the left bag. The sidestand harness is the one with 3 wires, Green, Green w/Wht, and Yel w/ Blk. You could also put the switch in the Green wire, but you would also render the 'sidestand down light' inoperable as well. Jason wrote: >After every ride there are scuff marks on the bike from the inside of my boots rubbing against the plastic. I've been thinking of getting some 4" square rubberized stick-on patches and adhereing one to each side. Anyone on the list have the same problem?< You bet! probably worse than others as I am 'conditioned' to hang on by squeezing my legs on the tank. Just letting the paint get scuffed and cleaning it off will eventually wear out the paint, plus you risk a real deep scratch that won't come out. I think Todd's response is better in the long run, and use it all the time. The clear vinyl he mentions is used on number plates and frame rails (where your boots will rub the paint right down to bear metal). This stuff is pretty thick and you might have some problems getting it to not lift on highly curved surfaces. For thinner thicknesses that mold better and are also less visible try to find a source for 'self adhesive vinyl sheeting'. I get mine from a friend who works in the decal/custom sign business. I once ran the same piece on the top of my gas tank for 12 years to protect it from the daily use of a tank bag. I finally just took it off and the paint looks like new. The down side is that all the other paint around it now looks terrible! Steve wrote: >Also, a note to those who own or buy a 97 PC: Honda still lists the front mudguard, but it is designed for the 96 and previous model year front treatment. Once again, 4 dealers cannot find a Honda part for my PC that will extend the new style's protection.< There is no Hondaline mudguard for the 97-on model which is why the dealers won't find it. For my 97 I used a 'universal' motorcycle mud flap I had laying around from some previous project. You could probably rig up something similar if you can find a somewhat stiff piece of rubber about 3mm thick. I used stainless steel screws, nuts and finishing washers to attach it, and it looks pretty spiffy IMHO. The hard part was marking symetrical holes on a compound curved surface. Go slowly, and use a paper template to lay them out. Before you drill, use the 'carpenters rule' (measure twice, cut once). I think the mudflap is a 'must do' for the PC because that fat front tire/short fender combination really throws a lot of road debris up onto the radiator. Good luck! Regards, Mark 97 RED kaismo@worldnet.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert Coulter" To: "LRaeMiller" , Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Headsets Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:38:16 -0500 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 10:29 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Headsets >In a message dated 4/3/98 8:58:50 PM Central Standard Time, swift24@juno.com >writes: > > I hear J&M but I also hear pricy. Your input is, as always, most > welcome. I didn't find much in the archives using the search engine > there. >> > >I think you only have the one choice at this time. Cruisin' Communications >Corp. (out of the CycleComm ashes) is coming out with a new one in May that >will range from $159 to $179 depending on the speaker power - but until then J >& M is the only other choice I know of. The price range is pretty much the >same. > >Lynda >-- So, CycleComm is out of business? I didn't know that. Too bad, they had good products. Karen Coulter '97PC "Li'l Red" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:45:03 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: maint survey fwd -- All, I seek your assistance with a Motorcycle related project that I am researching. If you would point your web browsers to:- you will find a survey form which deals with motorcycle maintenance which should take but a few minutes to complete. I am looking for input from as wide a cross section of motorcyclists as is possible so feel free to cross post this request to any other MC related lists to which you belong. I thank you in advance for your co-operation. =========================================== Kerry M. Walsh. STOC 116, Pan Clan 338, Paneuro 001 http://www.u-wrench.co.uk STarduST - Gloucester, England =========================================== Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA The worst Wintah I evah spent was a springtime in Maine... http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 0425000 ; Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:41:50 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:39:38 -0500 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: radio antenna I have the stock Hondaline stereo and reception isn't the greatest. I was thinking about upgrading the antenna. Any thoughts or experience with this idea? Scot '89 PC800 13,970 miles (hoping to make 14,000 today) :-) -------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 0425200 ; Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:44:12 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:41:59 -0500 From: Scot Piper To: JLicari721 CC: Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Parts I have Hondamil@aol.com listed. Don't know how their prices compare. ------- JLicari721 wrote: > > Does anyone remember the name or URL of the outift that was selling factory > honda parts at 15-25% off list with no shipping charges? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Helmeted Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:18:31 -0600 State Helmet requirements: Point your browser to: http://www.gwrra.org/helmetlaws.html Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 10:54:25 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Headsets In a message dated 4/4/98 8:21:52 AM Central Standard Time, robertc@en.com writes: << So, CycleComm is out of business? I didn't know that. Too bad, they had good products. Karen Coulter '97PC "Li'l Red" >> The story is on their old web site at www.cyclecomm.com. Actually all of their previous CB products will remain available through the Cruisin' Communications company www.cruisincomm.com - along with the Cruisin'Comm new headsets. They lost a legal war with J&M over one aspect of the old headset design and re-emerging as a new company will allow them to continue to offer an alternative in communications equipment. I also have preferred their equipment and am now planning to put their CB in my newly acquired '90 PC - just wish I could afford the top of the line set up that was in the '89 that I am selling. Lynda '90 PC "Val" (acquired on Valentine's Day) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 412 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:12:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:14:05 -0500 Importance: Normal Hi PC'ers It was, for the most part, a great week this week. Until today anyhow. It's raining raining raining now. Good for my alergies (at least at present) but bad for riding. On to my point... I have a full cover for my PC and always cover it during "harsh" weather conditions. Is it bad on my bike to leave it uncovered during the "not-too-bad" rainy times? I figured I could take advantage of Mother Nature in helping me keep my bike a little cleaner. Ya know....natural bath-time :-) This doesn't do nasties to the bike, does it? My initial thoughts would be to think "no", just because you can drive it in the rain if you so choose to (duh). Just brainstorming :-)) Thanks, Doug Ford Odenton, MD '97 PC800 3,000miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tyler Hart" To: Subject: PC800: PC Parts Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:47:55 -0600 Name: Tyler Hart =20 Location: Boerne, TX =20 Email: tnard@txdirect.net PC Model year (if you have one): '96 =20 Bought Used/New: New Modifications made to bike: None =20 Hi everyone.. =20 I am desperately looking for parts for my PC. The front end is = shot..including forks, calipers, one brake rotor, wheel, and so on.. If = anyone has anything or has any sources, please let me know.. =20 Thanks, =20 Tyler =20 =20 and so=20 on..  If anyone has anything or has any sources, please let me=20 know..
 
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 18:19:07 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: BRACKETS I am looking for factory Honda passenger rest brackets. New or used...even ones where the welds are broke which I understand is a common problem. Any help would be appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:28:17 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "A.T. Green" Subject: PC800: PC800 Trivia For what it's worth - Fog City's cardboard package for it's visor shield has a PC800 at the bottom of it. Who knew? :-) Ride on! __________________________________ A. T. Green Live from Villa Straylight Oh You can Dance if you want to... atg@technologist.com / `-' ) ,,, | IU U||||||||[:::] \_.-.( ''' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:11:07 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: I'm baaaack Hello everyone! I'm back on the list after a two week absence. bye for now. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Tyler Hart'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC Parts Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:23:34 -0500 Unfortunately, it sounds like modifications shouldn't be "none". > -----Original Message----- > From: Tyler Hart [SMTP:tnard@txdirect.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 1998 1:48 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: PC Parts > > > Name: Tyler Hart > Location: Boerne, TX > Email: tnard@txdirect.net > PC Model year (if you have one): '96 > Bought Used/New: New > Modifications made to bike: None > > Hi everyone.. > > I am desperately looking for parts for my PC. The front end is > shot..including forks, calipers, one brake rotor, wheel, and so on.. > If anyone has anything or has any sources, please let me know.. > > Thanks, > > Tyler > > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:23:08 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: headlightt bulbs does any one know how large we can go in installing brighter head light bulbs with out modifying the electrical system. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 03:12:31 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Alternative helmet headset? I know we have at least one electronics wiz that can help here. Does any one know if the output from a Chatterbox intercom could be split and fed into the mic input of one of the CB/FM/WX radios and a push to talk button used to transmit it. Also could the output of the radio then be plugged into the aux. input of the Chatterbox for the reveiving end of the deal? My main concern is that the line level input on the Chatterbox could be overloaded by the output of the radio. I suppose, if that were so a resistor or something could be put in line to reduce the output to a usable level. The Chatterbox speakers are stereo and have a pretty good sound considering they are only about $30 a set. If it works a system could be had for about $300 including both helmet headsets. I assume that if it works you could also wire a second push to talk button for the passenger. Since the intercom is full duplex both driver and passenger could be heard. Please tell me I'm not dreaming. At least wake me gently. Steve Wilson Ruston LA 95 PC800(with a Chatterbox but no CB/FM/WX, yet!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:04:30 EDT To: patkins@mari.net, dkgross@halcyon.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Uninsured Motorist! In a message dated 98-03-31 15:32:48 EST, patkins@mari.net writes: << I liked Ted's answer, too. But I wonder as a non lawyer..what is recommended level for insurance? >> Depends on your income level and how vulnerable you are for liability. I get the same limits for uninsureds as I do for my liability... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 07:04:32 EDT To: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, jgulledg@oeb.harvard.edu Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! In a message dated 98-04-01 17:44:33 EST, jgoula@ims.uaf.edu writes: << >This was on the CBR List today. Be SURE to check out the website listed >at the end of the article before you despair. >--Mark >> It's an April fool's joke! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:08:45 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: JLicari721 Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 01:23:08AM -0500, JLicari721 wrote: -> -> does any one know how large we can go in installing brighter head light bulbs -> with out modifying the electrical system. I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight fuse. I haven't tried the 130/90 yet. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 08:50:41 -0500 From: "The Ludington's" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Hona Hoot..... Hello......We are new to this, the PC800 net.....I am just about to get my first PC800, I found a brand new 95 in Arkport, New York.....I am hoping to go get the bike over the next two week, we are very excited to get back in the ride.....Our last bike was 9 years ago......My wife and I are planning to attend the 98 Honda Hoot and want as little help with some of the details.......Can we get some help on where to stay, is there a group of PC riders that get together and what are the best rides????.....I have been on the PC e-mail line for about 3 weeks, really enjoy the messages from everyone.....We should get the sort by stat going, plus get a local based club network set-up.....We need to show all those old folks that ride those Goldwing "retirement rides", that we are the group that has the real fun times......Let me hear from you and "Lets Party at the Hoot"....... Barb & Dave Ludington Farmland, Ind. (About 10 miles east of Muncie) 1995 PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4279000 ; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 09:41:56 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:45:31 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: Dave Bartlett CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs FWIW - I've been running the 130/90 with no trouble. Previous owner installed it about 5 years ago. No problems. The 130 low beam doesn't seem to do much, but the 90w high beam is great at night. I'd think a better combination would be like an 80/90. Don't see the need for so much wattage on low beam. Scot '89 PC800 13,970 miles -------- Dave Bartlett wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 01:23:08AM -0500, JLicari721 wrote: > -> > -> does any one know how large we can go in installing brighter head light bulbs > -> with out modifying the electrical system. > > I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight fuse. > > I haven't tried the 130/90 yet. > > - dlb > > -- > > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | > | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | > | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | > +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:48:55 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Cc: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Helmeted? Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 10:37:54 -0400 Why, You planning to buy a Harley ! :>) You don't need one in Ohio. (a helmet that it) Mike Whited ---------- > From: speerboy@juno.com > To: bmckenna@mint.net > Cc: JLicari721@aol.com; Emile@CyberComm.nl; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Helmeted? > Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 9:01 PM > > Dear folks, > Does anyone happen to have a list of states that it's legal to ride in > without a helmet?? > > Gary Smith > speerboy@juno.com > lookin' for a new hair-do > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:11:09 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Richard A. Nadeau" CC: John Louk , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio Is the FM part stereo or mono. Thanks. Steve Wilson Ruston LA 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 12:39:19 -0400 From: radrider To: Steve Wilson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio What about the weather? Is the radio water proof? Stan 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:11:03 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Douglas Ford" , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:08:26 -0400 If it's red, keep it covered as much as possible. Nothing fades faster in the sun then red. Mike Whited ' 94 Pc (Black) ---------- > From: Douglas Ford > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover > Date: Saturday, April 04, 1998 12:14 PM > > Hi PC'ers > > It was, for the most part, a great week this week. Until today anyhow. > It's raining raining raining now. Good for my alergies (at least at > present) but bad for riding. On to my point... > > I have a full cover for my PC and always cover it during "harsh" weather > conditions. Is it bad on my bike to leave it uncovered during the > "not-too-bad" rainy times? I figured I could take advantage of Mother > Nature in helping me keep my bike a little cleaner. Ya know....natural > bath-time :-) This doesn't do nasties to the bike, does it? My initial > thoughts would be to think "no", just because you can drive it in the rain > if you so choose to (duh). Just brainstorming :-)) > > > Thanks, > > Doug Ford > Odenton, MD > '97 PC800 3,000miles > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:24:41 GMT >From "Steve & Diane Scudder " Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:46:03 -0500 See my comments in/after your email. - ]Monty[ [snip] "The spoilers are still available from Honda for the 89 & 90 model year PC's, "but are scheduled to be discontinued very soon. They are only available in "the stock 89 & 90 colors-no unfinished parts can be bought. This leaves me "with a choice of a) no spoilers or b) order them and pay to have them "refinished in R201 red to match my 97's color:-( ! " "Steve Scudder "97 PC800 523(S)miles " [snip] I thought they were no longer available. My Honda dealer can't get them. Do you know of a dealer that can? Thanks ]Monty[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PuX15314; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:27:32 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dford@tidalwave.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:27:02 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Doug, the paint job on anything will stand up better if protected. In my opinion, the real culprit is sunshine, for deterioating a bike's finish. Rain, in these times, is not "clean" water. How bad rain would be would probable depend on how acidic it is. Richard Hardy On Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:14:05 -0500 "Douglas Ford" writes: >Hi PC'ers > >It was, for the most part, a great week this week. Until today >anyhow. >It's raining raining raining now. Good for my alergies (at least at >present) but bad for riding. On to my point... > >I have a full cover for my PC and always cover it during "harsh" >weather >conditions. Is it bad on my bike to leave it uncovered during the >"not-too-bad" rainy times? I figured I could take advantage of Mother >Nature in helping me keep my bike a little cleaner. Ya >know....natural >bath-time :-) This doesn't do nasties to the bike, does it? My >initial >thoughts would be to think "no", just because you can drive it in the >rain >if you so choose to (duh). Just brainstorming :-)) > > >Thanks, > >Doug Ford >Odenton, MD >'97 PC800 3,000miles > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PxN15314; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:32:43 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dlb@cisco.com Cc: JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:31:23 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) >I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight >fuse. I've had a 100/80 for about six months now, and I know that Bryce Ulrich had been running the same for years. Richard Hardy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'rahardy@juno.com'" , dlb@cisco.com Cc: JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: headlightt bulbs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:41:43 -0400 There is a point where the headlight switch activates both high and low beam. I know, from experience, that the 55/100 on my '95 will blow the fuse if it dwells on that spot for long. Otherwise it's ok. I've blown the fuse three times in 35K miles. Buy a 5-pack of fuses at Pep Boys and be careful. Roger > -----Original Message----- > From: rahardy@juno.com [SMTP:rahardy@juno.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 1998 3:31 PM > To: dlb@cisco.com > Cc: JLicari721@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs > > >I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight > >fuse. > > I've had a 100/80 for about six months now, and I know that Bryce > Ulrich > had been running the same for years. > > Richard Hardy > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'rahardy@juno.com'" , dlb@cisco.com Cc: JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: headlightt bulbs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:43:31 -0400 Addendum. I never blew a fuse on my '90 using a 55/100 for 115K miles. Just the switch I guess. Roger > -----Original Message----- > From: rahardy@juno.com [SMTP:rahardy@juno.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 1998 3:31 PM > To: dlb@cisco.com > Cc: JLicari721@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs > > >I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight > >fuse. > > I've had a 100/80 for about six months now, and I know that Bryce > Ulrich > had been running the same for years. > > Richard Hardy > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Partington" To: "Dave Bartlett" , "JLicari721" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:46:52 -0700 The archives are full of info on headlight buld and wattage sizes. But keep in mind your wiring is not a problem, the wire on the headlight is large enough for any bulb combo thrown at it. The way you figure out how much current you are drawing is divide the wattage by the voltage. Example 100watt bulb divided by 12 volts is appx 8 .5 amps. keep in mind your break lights and running lights are all on the same fuse. The total of all lights running is 12.9 amps according to my digital meter. So if you popped a fuse, I would check to make sure all your bulb contacts are free of white powder oxidation. Its a really good idea to clean up all connectors and apply a tiny bit of white grease. This will ensure a good contact and draw less current. I know this is a lot more than most of you wish to know... take care -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dave Bartlett To: JLicari721 Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 6:22 AM Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs >On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 01:23:08AM -0500, JLicari721 wrote: >-> >-> does any one know how large we can go in installing brighter head light bulbs >-> with out modifying the electrical system. > >I had a 100/80 running for several weeks before I blew the headlight fuse. > >I haven't tried the 130/90 yet. > > - dlb > >-- > >+----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ >| Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | >| Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | >| System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | >+----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 07:46:47 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Donald Mackie Subject: PC800: Just another newbie Top O' the morning PC folks: I thought I might give some thoughts on the PC--I just bought a 96 leftover--in the context of a message I sent this morning to a fellow CX500 rider who I met through the CX500 web page, and who is looking to upgrade to something in the BMW category (I think)via some test rides at Americade. Re Americade incidentally, I have a second home (I live near Boston) on Lake St. Catherine in Vermont, about 30 miles from Lake George. Is there any interest out there for a PC gathering, perhaps a barbeque, away from the the Americade crowds? PC folks are welcome to stay over and return to Lake George the following day. Don Mackie, Boxborough, MA Dave: with about 400 miles on the new PC, I figured I'd give you my thoughts thus far. 1) The PC web page often refers to this machine as a "stealth" bike. They're right. It kinda sneaks up on you in a variety of ways. 2) My understanding is that the Honda car folks, not the bike folks, designed the PC. It shows. Every effort has been made to hide the machinery under plastic (incidentally, I removed the front disc brake covers after my kid kept making derogatory comments; it really seems to lighten the front end cosmetically and looks less like a Gold Wing wannabe). The tupperware is both good news and bad news. No rust and easy clean-up, of course, but the bat-cycle look is not for everyone. Frankly, if I had my druthers I'd like to see a bit more iron. People stare at this machine, especially when the trunk is opened. And I should add that the trunk was a stroke of engineering genius (it even has a car-like gas strut to keep it open). The down side is that any damage could be very expensive to fix, notwithstanding the built in crash bars hidden under the lower sacrificial plastic covers. 3) Perhaps a more serious down side is the possibility that Honda will drop this model (I have yet to see a 98 model at any dealership although promotional flyers suggest it's available) and the effect that may have on parts availability. Honda's deep incentives to dealers to clear the decks of what few new 96's remain does not bode well. As you know it never sold well despite its enthusiastic following by those who own PCs, was not made from 91-93, and just does not easily fit into any easily definable category: is it a true sport tourer? well yea, kinda, but its not a rocket ship like the very popular Honda ST1100 and the Kawasaki Concours. Is it sort of a cafe racer? Surely not. And the cruiser crowd simply snickers. Maybe it's just a BMW in drag... 4) So do I like the bike? You bet. Overall a terrific, well thought out design that grows on you the more you use it. Little things abound like the mysterious but effective self-cancelling turn signals; a center stand that is incredibly easy to use despite the 600 lb bulk; blue instrumentation lighting that makes for easy viewing at night; a truly effective lighting system front and rear (the rear has a horizontal light bar that must be visible for miles); an engine that is super smooth from idle to red line; and a braking system that is easily modulated and inspires confidence. 5) With the smooth, super-quiet engine, abundant torque and full fairing deflecting the wind I find myself instantly doing 75 on the IS without even thinking. There's no sudden surge of power, just an even transition from slow to fast. It's rock steady at high speeds. It's surprising maneuverable at low speeds. I also never really appreciated what low center of gravity and low profile tires do to enhance handling. It's really fun on curvy roads, much more so than the CX. The suspension comes in for hard knocks by some of the PC web site folks, but I sure don't see it: riding Sunday with two other guys on Harleys we hit some really ratty frost heave conditions near Princeton on Route 62. The Harley guys had to quickly slow down. The PC just blasted right through it. Also, there's some type of anti-dive valving in the front forks which effectively minimizes front suspension compression on hard braking, something that always annoyed me on the CX. 6) Negatives. Sure. Too low windshield for my 6' height. Access to engine parts isn't easy (however, the dealer threw in a service manual). And all that vulnerable plastic just waiting to be scratched and damaged. And of course the Honda banditos and their extortionate prices for service and parts is always entertaining. If you're interested in taking a test spin let me know... P.S. Responses to the CX ad now number 15. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:20:29 -0700 If you own the cover, get used to using it every day. Your windshield will thank you :-). The side benefits are a cleaner bike and less sun damage to the plastic parts. Also, remember that if you own the high windscreen, the sun may melt portions of your dash without the cover. Harrison > From: rahardy@juno.com > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 1998 12:27 PM > To: dford@tidalwave.net > Cc: > Subject: Re: PC800: To Cover or Not To Cover > > Doug, the paint job on anything will stand up better if protected. In > my > opinion, the real culprit is sunshine, for deterioating a bike's > finish. > Rain, in these times, is not "clean" water. How bad rain would be > would > probable depend on how acidic it is. > > Richard Hardy > > On Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:14:05 -0500 "Douglas Ford" > writes: > >Hi PC'ers > > > >It was, for the most part, a great week this week. Until today > >anyhow. > >It's raining raining raining now. Good for my alergies (at least at > >present) but bad for riding. On to my point... > > > >I have a full cover for my PC and always cover it during "harsh" > >weather > >conditions. Is it bad on my bike to leave it uncovered during the > >"not-too-bad" rainy times? I figured I could take advantage of > Mother > >Nature in helping me keep my bike a little cleaner. Ya > >know....natural > >bath-time :-) This doesn't do nasties to the bike, does it? My > >initial > >thoughts would be to think "no", just because you can drive it in the > > >rain > >if you so choose to (duh). Just brainstorming :-)) > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Doug Ford > >Odenton, MD > >'97 PC800 3,000miles > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > > >a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:19:30 -0500 From: "The Ludington's" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot info... I am lookinfg for info on the 98 Honda Hoot this June.....I am a new PC 800 rider and want to attend this party......Is there a PC 800 club network or does the club get together at this Honda function?....Is there a club anywhere in Indiana?.....I like the idea of a state by state listing for all PC riders....I want to make some plans for this Hoot and need to know a great place to stay.....I guess it is a great day, everyone is out riding, I have only a few messages come today.....I get our new bike next weekend....I found a new, leftover 95 at Arkport Honda, Arkport, New York....I live near Muncie, Indiana.....Let me hear from anyone that can help with the Hoot info.....Thank you. Dave & Barb Ludington '95 PC 800 Farmland, Ind. lud96@netdirect.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:28:26 -0400 From: "Richard A. Schuler" To: JLicari721 CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs I have used the 55/100 watt lamp in my '90 Red PC for over 40,000 miles with no problems or ill effects. The 55 watt low beam is the same wattage as the OEM lamp and does not cause oncoming traffic to flash their brights at you. And the 100 watt high beam is plenty bright for seeing your way down a dark highway at night. Radar '91 ST-1100 - 34,000 miles '90 PC- 800 - 44,000 miles '83 GL-650 -122,000 miles JLicari721 wrote: > does any one know how large we can go in installing brighter head light bulbs > with out modifying the electrical system. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:36:21 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: Crash Today on our maiden voyage, I slowed to a stop w/my lady behind me. Just as I stopped she slid forward on the seat and into me, I could not hold up both her the bike, and myself, so we both lost our balance and down we went. Although I did not know it, until close inspection I guess the previous owner had put on Armour All, or something like it, and her seat was like ice. Their was not to much damage, just both crash bar covers. I don't even want to know how much those are going to cost, guess I will find out tomorrow . Woe is me :-( Any suggestions as to finding parts? Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:47:46 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:48:48 -0400 From: Dave Wilson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Goodbye for now Sorry to say, I didn't purchase either the '89 or the new '97. I decided the '89 was too big a chance, and would require immediate tire replacement. The '97 was a great machine, but I (with a gentle push from my wife) decided the budget could not sustain such an investment right now. I'll be retiring in 2 1/2 months, and to have 2 bikes seems kind of ostentatious. To have both a GoldWing and a PC would be great. Eventually, I'll own a PC, or its replacement. My legs are getting shorter already, and mounting and dismounting are already difficult. I'd guess I have another 3-5 years with the Wing. If anyone is the least curious as to what I chose instead, it's a '93 Suzuki Intruder with 3300 miles on it. It's nice and low, and with 800cc, I think it's enough for local trips. After adding a windshield, I will still have spent less than the '89 PC I wanted initially. I've been a lurker on "that other" Honda list for over 3 years, and never heard from a friendlier, more helpful, knowledgeable group than you! I assure you, I'll be back! Thanks to all who replied. I've enjoyed your responses each evening. So long, but not goodbye! Dave Wilson Red Bank, NJ winston94@worldnet.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4351900 ; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 08:31:57 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:35:42 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: factory speaker upgrade I have an '89 PC800 with a factory Hondaline stereo. I'm curious if there is a speaker upgrade available. Also, has anyone added a power booster/amplifier in-line with the factory stereo? Scot '89 PC800 14,020 miles ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:40:16 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Prince, Roger" Cc: "'rahardy@juno.com'" , JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 03:43:31PM -0400, Prince, Roger wrote: -> -> Addendum. I never blew a fuse on my '90 using a 55/100 for 115K miles. -> Just the switch I guess. Last fall I remember one of the TriDODs (Triangle Denizens of Doom), blew a fuse in his I believe '94 (or '95) Magna the same way I blew my fuse. I believe it was when switching between high and low...the moment when both high beam and low beam are on... For me I was pulling out of a parking lot at night... I probably had the high beam on in the parking lot.. it was deserted.. most likely I had my turn signal on, and since I was going very slow... I could also have had my brake on slightly.... and then I switched from high to low..and poof.... no headlight at all. The person on the Magna said it wasn't the first time it happened to him. It could have just been a one in the million chance for me... I do carry spare fuses of course. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:42:34 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Prince, Roger" Cc: "'rahardy@juno.com'" , JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 03:41:43PM -0400, Prince, Roger wrote: -> There is a point where the headlight switch activates both high and low -> beam. I know, from experience, that the 55/100 on my '95 will blow the -> fuse if it dwells on that spot for long. Otherwise it's ok. I've blown -> the fuse three times in 35K miles. Buy a 5-pack of fuses at Pep Boys -> and be careful. Yeah.... that is what probably happened to me. Although I did do some testing when I changed bulbs... I had both high and low beams activated for probably at leasts 30 seconds with no ill effects... I wanted to see if it would be a problem.. but since it didn't seem to blow any fuses... I didn't think it would be a problem. I will still continue to use a higher wattage bulb... - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:59:22 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael L. Watts" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 For Sale Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:48:50 -0500 Beautiful 1997 Red PC 800 for sale. Great Bike. 6500 miles. Tall Rifle windshield. Tank bag. Still 2 years left on the factory warranty. The bike is in showroom condition. $7000 I live in San Antonio TX. Email reply if you are interested. Happy Trails Mike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: underinflated tires Date: Sun, 5 Apr 98 19:27:23 -0600 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: "pc 800 list" A warning... I picked up my new "96 PC800 last weekend and am up to 425 miles in two weekends, not bad for northern wisconsin! Anyway, I posted a note with my impressions, and mentioned that the front end seemed a little slow, that I had to fight to turn at times..someone suggested I check the tire pressure... Since I had just picked up this bike, I couldn't imagine that this was the problem...surely dealer checked the tires...apparently not. Well, it took me a few days to go to the Walmart and relaplace the old tire guage (couldn't find the old one@!), and sure enough..the tires were very low. Filled up the tires and now it turns on a dime...great. Just hope I didn't do any serious damage by riding on low tires...seems to be ok so far. So, to all of you buying those new 96 and 97's...don't assume the dealer checks the tires. like I did. Paul p.s. really enjoying this bike, especially with the tires working correctly! Got a bit cold coming home in 48 degree weather tonight..it felt good to get home after a long cold ride! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:34:28 CDT by portal.dx.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04139; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 21:31:18 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:30:58 -0600 From: "Paul B. Atkins" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 For Sale To: mikemb@email.msn.com, pc 800 list >Subject: PC800: PC800 For Sale >Sent: 4/5/98 7:04 PM >From: mikemb@email.msn.com >To: Patkins > > >Beautiful 1997 Red PC 800 for sale. Great Bike. >6500 miles. Tall Rifle windshield. Tank bag. >Still 2 years left on the factory warranty. The bike is in showroom >condition. $7000 > >I live in San Antonio TX. Email reply if you are interested. >Happy Trails >Mike Mike..I just bought a new outta the crate "96 for 6 thousand and heard that Honda is offering similar deals on new 97's. That may affect your price.. Paul > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:37:10 +0000 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: First Mini-tour Hey folks, Well, I'm still trying to get that first 600 miles on mine new '96 so I can go over 4000 RPM. I've had it two weeks tomorrow. I rode about 170 miles today on all sorts of roads. It was a little intimidating on the expressway, about 15 miles, since I was trying to stay under 4000 RPM with the 18 wheelers blowing by. Other than a little "throttle hand fatigue" everything went smoothly, further increasing my confidence that I bought the perfect bike for me. I bought a pair of black lace-up western boots with a round toes and straight heels at a local boot shop for $80. I really like them and they provide better ankle support than pull-ons. The only true motorcycle boots they had were Harley's. I thought that would be sacrilege plus they started at $120. I really enjoy all of the Emails I get from the list. Pat McNew 96 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John J. Scalisi" To: "A.T. Green" Cc: "PC800 Mail List" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Trivia Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:55:43 -0400 You beat me to it. I just installed the Fog City shield today and noticed the PC800 on their packaging. They probably consider their product, futuristic and revolutionary, just like the PC800! So what better bike to put on the package! -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: A.T. Green To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Saturday, April 04, 1998 7:33 PM Subject: PC800: PC800 Trivia >For what it's worth - > >Fog City's cardboard package for it's visor shield has a PC800 at the >bottom of it. > >Who knew? :-) > > >Ride on! >__________________________________ >A. T. Green >Live from Villa Straylight >Oh You can Dance if you want to... >atg@technologist.com > > > / `-' ) ,,, > | IU U||||||||[:::] > \_.-.( ''' > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:52:22 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Meeting other members Hi everyone. I just got back from San Francisco on Friday night. While I was in the San Francisco area I had the opportunity to meet up with a cuple of list members, Ramin and Erin Keyvan, for supper. They are the two nicest people you could ever meet. We had supper at Max's Opera House Cafe, where the waiters take turns singing a variety of songs. Overall the talent was pretty good. (Except that one waitress who had a voice that almost made my ears bleed.) I had a really great time that night. I hope to be able to meet up with them again on my next trip out there, in about three months. take care everyone....and for those of us who live in areas where riding season has just begun, remember that you are invisible. Car drivers haven't seen motorcyclists on the road for quite a while, and to them it's "out of sight, out of mind" bye for now. fsl :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada mailto:fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:14:41 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:13:17 -0400 Re: Subject discussed below. Yes, Gar's Honda Grand Rapids, Michigan 616-452-6951 Ask for Kathy in the parts department Steve Scudder -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Monty Shaw To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 2:32 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for part #'s. |From "Steve & Diane Scudder " |Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:46:03 -0500 |See my comments in/after your email. - ]Monty[ | |[snip] |"The spoilers are still available from Honda for the 89 & 90 model year PC's, |"but are scheduled to be discontinued very soon. They are only available in |"the stock 89 & 90 colors-no unfinished parts can be bought. This leaves me |"with a choice of a) no spoilers or b) order them and pay to have them |"refinished in R201 red to match my 97's color:-( ! |" |"Steve Scudder |"97 PC800 523(S)miles |" |[snip] | |I thought they were no longer available. My Honda dealer |can't get them. Do you know of a dealer that can? | |Thanks |]Monty[ | |-- |Visit the PC800 web page at |To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a |message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. |To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:30:14 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: BACKREST WANTED. WANTED: Factory Hondaline Passenger Backrest...any condition. Corbin owners...sell me that backrest that is just taking up room in the garage. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:48:09 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: First Mini-tour Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:46:38 -0400 |Well, I'm still trying to get that first 600 miles on mine new '96 so I |can go over 4000 RPM. I've had it two weeks tomorrow. |I really enjoy all of the Emails I get from the list. | |Pat McNew |96 PC800 Pat, I changed my oil & filter at 411 miles, checked out everything on the bike and at 597 miles took it out on the interstate for a short jaunt. I am now riding " briskly and varying my speed" as the manual suggests ( is that a religious/spiritual thing? ). I am very impressed with the PC! Was 2-up today with Diane cruising some country roads after attending a cycle swap meet ( 85% Harley stuff, throngs of unwashed humanity, etc.. ) and it was a joy to be "brisk & variable"!! The PC responds wonderfully.... For those who may be curious, no, I am not abandoning the service schedule or "professional Honda extortion, er, service"-that is scheduled for Thursday at the selling dealer. Ride safe and watch out for the cagers, I witnessed more than the usual Bovine mentality out on the road today. Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 664(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:16:09 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Wisdom to pass along from Harley-Land... Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:13:37 -0400 Hello all, O.K. now everyone pay close attention to the "Big Bikers Lesson of the Day": While stopped at a gas station today to get some fuel, refreshments, etc...A knowledgeable maven of the other "pride of Milwaukee" comes cruising in on his $14,000.00 H-D ( plus about another $5000.00 to make it cooool ) with a rear tire as flaccid as Richard Simmons at a Playboy Club. As he was snickering and deriding my PC800, I politely asked if he would like to borrow my tire gauge and nodded at the suffering rear tire on his prize. He looks at the tire and then, in a brilliant "save-face" maneuver begins to educate me on the finer points of cold weather ( 54 F. ), REAL motorcycle physics. It seems that H-D has somehow contracted an exclusive deal with tire manufacturers which allows any of "the anointed" H-D riders the luxury of running on a very low tire ( let's not forget this only applies to such frigid conditions as 54 F.! ). It works like this: " The tire stays real warm on cold days and increases traction......" Boy, do I feel stupid now. I guess I should probably put about 150 lb. in front and rear on a really hot day ( over 65 F. ) to keep mine from melting! Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 664 (S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FERNDO Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:34:30 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC riders list I would like to be added to the Virginia list. Fernando Hernandez Jr. 5556 MacDuff Ct. Fairfax, Virginia 22032 Current Tel: (703) 450-7157 As of April 18 (703) 239-0381 Thanks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) id NAA17384; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:46 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: James R Randall To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs (fwd) Why not use a slightly larger fuse? I don't recall what's there now but the 100watt filament will pull approximately 3.3 amps more than the stock 60watt bulb. Uping the fuse capacity by 5 amps should do the job. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:42:34 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Prince, Roger" Cc: "'rahardy@juno.com'" , JLicari721@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 03:41:43PM -0400, Prince, Roger wrote: -> There is a point where the headlight switch activates both high and low -> beam. I know, from experience, that the 55/100 on my '95 will blow the -> fuse if it dwells on that spot for long. Otherwise it's ok. I've blown -> the fuse three times in 35K miles. Buy a 5-pack of fuses at Pep Boys -> and be careful. Yeah.... that is what probably happened to me. Although I did do some testing when I changed bulbs... I had both high and low beams activated for probably at leasts 30 seconds with no ill effects... I wanted to see if it would be a problem.. but since it didn't seem to blow any fuses... I didn't think it would be a problem. I will still continue to use a higher wattage bulb... - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:19:51 -0700 "Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS!" (Apr 3, 8:54pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! Steve brings up a good point. To anyone who took offense at my malformed, emotional response last week, please accept my appologies. Like Steve says below, "I guess it found one". Ramin On Apr 3, 8:54pm, Steve Wilson wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: SHOCKING NEWS! > Ramin Keyvan, > With an off the cuff, ignorant response like that we would just as soon > you stay away too. > With a name like yours, I would expect a bit more understanding before > showing such ignorant prejudice. If you don't know yet, it was all an > April Fools joke. I guess it found one. > Steve Wilson > Ruston LA > 95 Pc800 > >-- End of excerpt from Steve Wilson -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:51:43 -0700 "PC800: Meeting other members" (Apr 5, 10:52pm) To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Meeting other members Francois, Glad to see you made it back home safely. It was a pleasure for Erin & I as well. Thanks for spending part of your trip out here with us. On Apr 5, 10:52pm, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > Subject: PC800: Meeting other members > Hi everyone. > > I just got back from San Francisco on Friday night. While I was in the San > Francisco area I had the opportunity to meet up with a cuple of list > members, Ramin and Erin Keyvan, for supper. They are the two nicest people > you could ever meet. Ok, now, stop it! You're going to make me blush ;-)! As he says below, we were to have supper at Max's and the arrangement was( when he asked how he was going to recognize us) that he was going to look for me (6' man with glasses, pony-tail and a full beard/mustache). Well, when we got to the restaurant, parking was kind of crazy and it was raining so I decided that I would drop Erin off and I'd go park the car. Well I got half-way across the parking lot when it dawned on me that Erin looks nothing like me (THANK YOU GOD!!) ;-) ;-)!! But by the time I made my way inside the place Erin and Francois had already figured out who was who and were waiting on a table (which is good because there was apparently some other fellow in there, with a table full of people, who somewhat matched the description Francois was looking for and he was wondering whether or not I had brought along a whole mess of Bay-Area PCers to join us, and as such, would it be rude to just go join the table and start eating their food? :-)). > We had supper at Max's Opera House Cafe, where the > waiters take turns singing a variety of songs. Overall the talent was > pretty good. (Except that one waitress who had a voice that almost made my > ears bleed.) Criminy! She could have cut diamonds with that voice!! YEESH! ;-) I had a really great time that night. I hope to be able to > meet up with them again on my next trip out there, in about three months. Anytime you want to swing back through here, the welcome mat will be there! It was our pleasure my friend! Be safe, Ramin -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VR2XVI Subject: PC800: Riding gear FREE to give away - SF & LA To: ramin@tibco.com (Ramin Keyvan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:15:05 +0800 (HKT) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, wings@armchair.mb.ca Hey Ramin, > was going to recognize us) that he was going to look for me (6' man with > glasses, pony-tail and a full beard/mustache)... Just looking for real big guys around the Wing & PC list... I have 4 riding gears free to give away. They're 1 pc. rain suits, brand new, never worn, size from M (don't believe that) to XXL, which fits 6' to 6'4 of height. Color is black or black/white/red assorted. I'll bring them with me travelling San Francisco/Los Angeles between April 7-14. Anybody interested in getting 1 please let me know. Then we can meet for a chat, have a cup of coffee or so. I'll offline 10 hours later (20:00PST 4/6/98), I can be reached on (510)791-7509 when I'm staying around SF Bay Area. See U there, friends!! -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * Vice Chairman, Safe Riders (HK) Association * * GWRRA Hong Kong Chapter (proposed) * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: First Mini-tour Date: Mon, 6 Apr 98 16:54:12 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: PC800: First Mini-tour >Sent: 4/5/98 8:42 PM >From: pmcnew@bellsouth.net >To: Patkins > > >Hey folks, > >Well, I'm still trying to get that first 600 miles on mine new '96 so I >can go over 4000 RPM. I've had it two weeks tomorrow. I rode about 170 >miles today on all sorts of roads. It was a little intimidating on the >expressway, about 15 miles, since I was trying to stay under 4000 RPM >with the 18 wheelers blowing by. Other than a little "throttle hand >fatigue" everything went smoothly, further increasing my confidence that >I bought the perfect bike for me. > >I bought a pair of black lace-up western boots with a round toes and >straight heels at a local boot shop for $80. I really like them and >they provide better ankle support than pull-ons. The only true >motorcycle boots they had were Harley's. I thought that would be >sacrilege plus they started at $120. > >I really enjoy all of the Emails I get from the list. > >Pat McNew >96 PC800 Pat..me too! I am also waiting to get to 600. After two weekends, I am up to about 450...down to the home stretch! Paul >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gavin Webster" To: Subject: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:27:25 -0400 I just got a quote of $75 for a set of disc brake pads. Is there anywhere that I may be able to get replacement pads at a more reasonable price? Gavin Webster -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Karen and Tom" To: "pacific coast owners group" Subject: PC800: Drafty Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:39:50 -0400 After another cool ride today(35 degrees at the start) I was wondering if anyone had ever considered any aerodynamic to the body work to eliminate the "draft up the pant leg syndrome. Or perhaps I'm the only one too cheap to buy a riding suit!? Tom Boynton 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:43:42 -0800 From: "Roy Thomassen" To: Subject: Re[2]: PC800: First Mini-tour --simple boundary Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" ____________________Reply Separator____________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: First Mini-tour Author: "Paul B. Atkins" Date: 4/6/98 4:54 PM >From: pmcnew@bellsouth.net >To: Patkins > > >Hey folks, > >Well, I'm still trying to get that first 600 miles on mine new '96 so I >can go over 4000 RPM. I've had it two weeks tomorrow. I rode about 170 >miles today on all sorts of roads. It was a little intimidating on the Big snip here > >Pat McNew >96 PC800 Pat..me too! I am also waiting to get to 600. After two weekends, I am up to about 450...down to the home stretch! Paul >-- Pat and Paul, Me too, too. El Nino is messing up the riding here in the south S.F. Bay Area. I am at 554 miles with a new '96. I went down to Morgan Hill yesterday and ran into some rain. I'll get the miles tonight or tomorrow. Roy T. San Jose, CA --simple boundary ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:57:31 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: First Mini-tour Date: Mon, 6 Apr 98 16:54:12 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" --simple boundary-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:54:34 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Drafty At 18:39 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >After another cool ride today(35 degrees at the start) I was wondering if >anyone had ever considered any aerodynamic to the body work to eliminate the >"draft up the pant leg syndrome. Or perhaps I'm the only one too cheap to >buy a riding suit!? Gee Tom, you can't be TOO cheap to tuck your pants in your riding boots, or are you? (snicker-snicker). I am aware of a couple of ideas, and I have oictures of one of them. I still need to scan them (find them first!) and submit them to the web page. Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4543400 ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:36:55 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:40:38 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: High Watt bulbs I just checked my Chaparral catalog and there are multiple options for high watt bulbs. In fact, many of them have a higher rating for the low beam than the high beam, such as the 130/90 that my '89 has. They sell for about $12 each. There is a 100/90 and a 100/80 option that look like the best option since the 130/90 has an asterisk noting that it may not be legal in all states. Scot '89 PC800 14,100 miles ----------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:59:13 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: High Watt bulbs At 19:40 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >I just checked my Chaparral catalog and there are multiple options for >high watt bulbs. In fact, many of them have a higher rating for the low >beam than the high beam, such as the 130/90 that my '89 has. They sell >for about $12 each. There is a 100/90 and a 100/80 option that look >like the best option since the 130/90 has an asterisk noting that it may >not be legal in all states. Scott, I am confused. Usually the higher wattage is for the high beam. Maybe a misprint on the catalog? Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 20:00:12 -0400 From: Dennis Holcomb To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New user I am new to the group but have been reading the messages for awhile & found many useful ideas. My name is Dennis Ellijay, Ga dholcomb@ellijay.com Have a 97 PC800 purchased 2 weeks ago new. I have installed a tall Rifle windshield I also purchased a Corbin seat but could not mount it. Problems with the trunk hitting the front section. I have sent it back to Mike for modification & hope to have it back soon. Also looking for any PC owners in the Atlanta area about maybe planning some rides. Thanks. Dennis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VR2XVI Subject: PC800: All riding suits had been given away!!! To: wings@armchair.mb.ca Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:16:33 +0800 (HKT) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi listers! All 4 riding suits had been given away within an hour or 2, thanks! Will keep in touch with those who had confirmation emails from me. See you guys then! -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * Vice Chairman, Safe Riders (HK) Association * * GWRRA Hong Kong Chapter (proposed) * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:15:46 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: High Watt bulbs On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 03:59:13PM -0800, Juan A. Goula wrote: -> At 19:40 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: -> >I just checked my Chaparral catalog and there are multiple options for -> >high watt bulbs. In fact, many of them have a higher rating for the low -> >beam than the high beam, such as the 130/90 that my '89 has. They sell -> >for about $12 each. There is a 100/90 and a 100/80 option that look -> >like the best option since the 130/90 has an asterisk noting that it may -> >not be legal in all states. -> -> Scott, I am confused. Usually the higher wattage is for the high beam. Maybe -> a misprint on the catalog? I just checked... in the JC Whitney catalog, they are listed as low/high, but on the box that they come in and on the bulbs themselves, they are listed as high/low. As for being legal or not... in the JC Whitney catalog, they are specified as off-road use only... and I have been told that the higher wattage bulbs are illegal. But you need to consider what is more important to you, the safety provided by you being able to see better, or a ticket. And you need to think about the risk involved... how many cops are going to pull you over because you have a offroad bulb? - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Gavin Webster'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:51:27 -0400 Try Cycle Design. 1-800-343-1374 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Webster [SMTP:gavinan@erols.com] > Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:27 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast > > I just got a quote of $75 for a set of disc brake pads. > > Is there anywhere that I may be able to get replacement pads at a more > reasonable price? > > Gavin Webster > -- > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m17.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VOY23795; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:07:34 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:06:46 -0400 Subject: PC800: Further warmup query From: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) Thanks to all for the usual thoughtful commentary, this time concerning the side-stand warmup issue. Some good ideas about engine care, too. One recurring theme seemed to be the avoidance of too rich a mixture which could foul plugs and/or thin the oil. Someone recommended leaving the choke on for only about 15 seconds, and then riding off to complete warmup while riding (avoiding engine strain and high revs while so doing, of course). I tried this the other day to the accompaniment of the most god-awful case of coughing, sputtering, lurching I had ever experienced. I can't believe THAT is any good for the engine either. Of course, the ambient temp was only 40 when this occurred, so maybe I was pushing too far to the opposite extreme. My further question is whether or not this behavior could be an indication of some of that plug fouling. I only have 4,000 miles on the bike and when it is fully warm it runs in true PC fashion--flawlessly. Your further thoughts, please, folks. Thanks again. Stan B. '90 PC "Miss Ruby" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:36 -0700 "PC800: Further warmup query" (Apr 6, 9:06pm) To: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Further warmup query Stan, You were pushing the temperature envelope a bit with doing what you describe in 40 degree weather. Hondas (in my experience) require about a full minute of choke in colder temps. My '81 CB-750 **and** Erin's '95 PC exhibit the exact same symptomology when subjected to a too brief warm-up period. Hope this helps. Ramin On Apr 6, 9:06pm, Stan Brady wrote: > Subject: PC800: Further warmup query > I tried this the other day to the accompaniment of the most > god-awful case of coughing, sputtering, lurching I had ever experienced. > I can't believe THAT is any good for the engine either. Of course, the > ambient temp was only 40 when this occurred, so maybe I was pushing too > far to the opposite extreme. > > > > Stan B. > '90 PC "Miss Ruby" > -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4567200 ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:38:26 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:42:09 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: Gavin Webster CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast $36 for the front pair from Chaparral. Guess that makes about $75 for a complete set. BTW, how many miles on your bike? I only hvae 14k and my front brakes look worn. I know others with 50k and they have no trouble. How long should PC800 brakes last? Scot '89 PC800 --------- Gavin Webster wrote: > > I just got a quote of $75 for a set of disc brake pads. > > Is there anywhere that I may be able to get replacement pads at a more > reasonable price? > > Gavin Webster > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4568300 ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:41:55 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:45:38 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: High Watt bulbs Juan, You got it correct. The low beam has a higher rating than the high beam. I think it's the angle of the high beam that makes the real difference. My 130 wat low beam is not as bright as you would think, but the 90 watt high beam is awesome! Until I meet on-coming traffic. Scot '89 PC800 --------- Juan A. Goula wrote: > > At 19:40 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: > >I just checked my Chaparral catalog and there are multiple options for > >high watt bulbs. In fact, many of them have a higher rating for the low > >beam than the high beam, such as the 130/90 that my '89 has. They sell > >for about $12 each. There is a 100/90 and a 100/80 option that look > >like the best option since the 130/90 has an asterisk noting that it may > >not be legal in all states. > > Scott, I am confused. Usually the higher wattage is for the high beam. Maybe > a misprint on the catalog? > > Juan > > Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 > School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 > University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat > (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4569200 ; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 09:46:48 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:50:31 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC stator There are 3 Honda dealers within a 25 mile radius of my home. I have spoken with all 3 about the '89 stator issue. All 3 deny there was a problem. In fact, 1 of them claims to have never sold a PC800 stator, only Goldwing stators. I'm concerned my '89 will fail soon. Are there any members with high mileage '89 PC800's that have NOT had their stator fail? Sounds like a cover up by Honda. If mine fails soon, how will I know if I'm getting the upgraded stator - I assume Honda would not use an inferior design for replacement parts... Scot '89 PC800 14,100 miles (less than 10,000 to go until stator failure according to this list)... ------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChuckQdini Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:45:45 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Oil filter, gas can, MSF, crashing Hello the list: Some items that might be of interest: 1) Purolator oil filter for 89-90 PC, part # ML16817, replaces Honda # 15410-MM9. Threads look OK when I compared them with the Honda filter. PEP Boys $5.49 2) Blitz 1 gal 4 oz (3.9litre) plastic gas can, model # 11802 Fits width-ways into trunk like it was made for it. PEP Boys $2.98 Took the MSF Experienced Rider Course today courtesy of the U.S. Army. Fort Bragg has made it mandatory for all soldiers riding bikes on post to pass this course and they provide it free of charge! Great idea! Re-evaluated some old habits and learned some new techniques and attitudes. The PC ran perfectly, of course. I had no problem with locking up the rear wheel as others had alluded to in the archives. Since the course was for G.Is, the bike line up looked like the start of a GP race. The instructor, Jennette Goekesbly(sp?), demonstrated all exercises on her Gold Wing. What a confidence builder! By the end of the day, I had most of the "rocket jockeys" ohhhing and ahhhing over how well my PC handled and it's features that all of us know so well. On a sadder note, a very good buddy crashed last weekend. He was riding his very loud Harley in the left lane of a four lane (two lanes in each direction) highway going 45 mph. There was one car ahead of him by two seconds in the right hand lane. The driver hit the brakes and attempted to pull a U-turn into the opposite two lanes in front of him. No signal, warning or hint that she might turn. Not even a driveway on the opposite side of the road. My buddy locked em up as he had nowhere to steer to (didn't have time to lay it down) and hit her in the driver's door. He launched over the hood and hit the road at 25 mph. He was wearing a full-face helmet, leather jacket, gloves, chaps and steel-toed boots. The woman left the scene without stopping. Three witnesses got similar plate numbers and the cops are trying to find her. My friend is O.K but sore. Thank goodness he wasn't wearing the "cool biker outfit", beanie helmet, T-shirt and blue jeans with fingerless gloves. Lesson learned, always wear proper protective gear....ya just never know. Our "after accident assessment" prompted me to look up a comparison between different materials used in motorcycle clothing. Cycle magazine Sept. 88 issue has a great article on the subject. I'm sticking with leather, besides, it doesn't burn or melt on ya! Crashing sucks! Chuck Chiodini Fayetteville, NC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:57:07 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall Subject: PC800: pc 800 Test to see if I'm suscribed -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:19:59 -0400 From: Joe Beresford To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Deals Gap April Fools Actually I found it very ammussing...and of course, it todays times of silly things the goverment does.... I could almost believe that they could/would shut down a section of road to a certain type of vehicles.....Now we have seen this before...many cities have condo associations that won't allow motorcycles...(see AMA articles from the past), and we all have been somewhere that we didn't get the best service, or got fround on cause we were bikers wearing our fancy smansy leather suits....(yeah)... (I pulled into a hotel somehwere in the BlueRidge and there wasn't a car in the lot...lady behind the desk refused us service, didn't want us types...of course I asked here again after I laid my badge on the counter...and be sure to pick up her bussiness card to fire off a letter to the state folks.... we took our dollars elsewhere).... Anywyas....I read the thing once , thenn scaned again, then clicked the lick that was at the bottom...cause hey anything's possible in this crazy world..... and you probably think I believe in aliens, ufo's, and reincarnation, and that some day I'll win the powerball jackpot! :-p Smile and ride safe, may God watch over you and not take you to soon.... -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== Fireman Joe Beresford CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:23:14 -0400 From: Joe Beresford To: VR2XVI CC: Ramin Keyvan , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, wings@armchair.mb.ca Subject: Re: PC800: Riding gear FREE to give away - SF & LA REF: Philips Wong wrote: I have 4 riding gears free to give away. They're 1 pc. rain suits, brand new, never worn, size from M (don't believe that) to XXL, which fits 6' to 6'4 of height. Color is black or black/white/red assorted. I'll bring them with me travelling San Francisco/Los Angeles between April 7-14. Anybody interested in getting 1 please let me know. Then we can meet for a chat, have a cup of coffee or so. Well don't I wish I was in california...were one could use such a thing....actually I could use a new xl or xxl rainsuti...good luck..I am sure you'll find takers... -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== Fireman Joe Beresford CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:26:40 -0400 From: Joe Beresford To: PC800 List , Honda Sport Touring Association List Subject: PC800: Baker Air Wings Does any body know if or does Baker Air Wings have a website... one of my pertty little red wingys broke the other day...(SIGH) I just wanna buy the Plastic wing itself, not the hardware, unless I have to. Or a good place to buy them? Thanks Y'all! -- ==Life is short---Go ride!== Fireman Joe Beresford CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! http://w3.one.net/~cableguy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) 7 Apr 1998 03:26:25 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 20:16:11 -0500 From: Mike Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: PC stator To: scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu My dealer is aware that the 89's have that problem. And knows that Honda wont fess up. My 89 has 34300 mi and I believe the original stator. I discussed the replacement of my stator when/if it fails. They said the one they will replace it with (according to their computer) has thicker wires, more durable than the 89 stator. So far no problems... Normally when I start up the bike in the morning, I pull out the choke to warm up- up to a minute. It starts right up without hestiation when tapping the on switch. However, the past week, it would not start right up, I had to also give it one twist of the throttle to get it going. Im starting to wonder... Anyone know the symptoms to a dying stator? Or is it this weird cold blast from Alaska? Didn't have this problem in January when it was freeeeezing. Got my fingers crossed... Mike V Stockton CA -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 8:49 PM Subject: PC800: PC stator There are 3 Honda dealers within a 25 mile radius of my home. I have spoken with all 3 about the '89 stator issue. All 3 deny there was a problem. In fact, 1 of them claims to have never sold a PC800 stator, only Goldwing stators. I'm concerned my '89 will fail soon. Are there any members with high mileage '89 PC800's that have NOT had their stator fail? Sounds like a cover up by Honda. If mine fails soon, how will I know if I'm getting the upgraded stator - I assume Honda would not use an inferior design for replacement parts... Scot '89 PC800 14,100 miles (less than 10,000 to go until stator failure according to this list)... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM01SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27033) 7 Apr 1998 03:40:21 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 20:37:27 -0500 From: Mike Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: PC stator To: scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu My Honda dealer is well aware of the 89 stator choke-ups. Says that Honda wont fess up to it. Also said that If/when I have to replace my stator on my 89 (34300 mi), the computer lists the replacement part as having a heavier guage wires, thus more durable. Since I still have my totaled 90 in the garage, they said they would try transplanting it onto the 89 and see if it works. So far no problems with my steed.... However, this past week, I've had to give it one twist of the throttle as I pushed the on button to get it started. (have the choke up for up to a minute as usual) I hope this is not a symptom of a dying stator... anyone know when it is on their deathbed? Mike V Stockton CA -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper Subject: PC800: PC stator There are 3 Honda dealers within a 25 mile radius of my home. I have spoken with all 3 about the '89 stator issue. All 3 deny there was a problem. In fact, 1 of them claims to have never sold a PC800 stator, only Goldwing stators. I'm concerned my '89 will fail soon. Are there any members with high mileage '89 PC800's that have NOT had their stator fail? Sounds like a cover up by Honda. If mine fails soon, how will I know if I'm getting the upgraded stator - I assume Honda would not use an inferior design for replacement parts... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:46:39 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall OK , I'm in! Hello Listers?! My name is Alan and I live in Houston. I'm at alanh@wt.net After more than 10 years without a bike, I finally managed to get my hands on one. I remember when the first PC 800 came out ,and thought it was a really nice looking motorcycle. Even elegant. I only got the bug to get another bike recently, so it's odd that I not only purchased a PC 800, but an 89' to boot! It has less than 4500 miles and was kept in a garage, so it is in very good shape. The only mod is the addition of the Honda passenger backrest. It's been very windy in Houston recently, so I'm not sure if the wind noise I hear is caused by the stock windshield, the unusually windy conditions here, or the old full face helmet I have. One question before I get off - Is it OK to use the Purolator ML16817 or the Fram CA 3559 oil filters? ie; do they afford adequate protection compared to the Honda filter? I've heard that that the Honda filter is between $30 and $40 ! Ouch! Thanks in advance. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:50:46 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Doug CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Crash Give her a hug and be thankful it wasn't her crash bar covers you're replacing. They have to be much more expensive. Look at it this way. Statistics show 50% of all accidents occur in the first 6 months. You're done, now you can enjoy riding. You really got off cheap. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:00:08 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall One more test. Sorry I'm having trouble. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:17:21 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall Subject: PC800: PC800 testing! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:24:36 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Mike Ver Velde CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC stator Hi Mike! I have the '90 and don't have the stator problem, but when one of our group, Harrison, had his stator fail, it was very evident exactly when it happened. He had installed a voltmeter, just before one of our rides, and during the ride, his battery voltage started going down. His electrical system just suddenly stopped putting out electricity. This could be caused by other things, but it turned out to be the stator. This was the infamous ride when he and I exchanged batteries and he was able to make it home. I guess the moral of the story is that an installed voltmeter is probably a good idea. As for your starting difficulty, I wouldn't think that it would have anything to do with the stator. I hope I've been a little bit of help. Take care, Phil P.S.- I have a voltmeter and an ammeter installed, which I would consider a necessity if you have something like halogen running lights. ---------------------------------- Mike Ver Velde wrote: > My dealer is aware that the 89's have that problem. And knows that Honda > wont fess up. My 89 has 34300 mi and I believe the original stator. I > discussed the replacement of my stator when/if it fails. They said the one > they will replace it with (according to their computer) has thicker wires, > more durable than the 89 stator. > > So far no problems... Normally when I start up the bike in the morning, I > pull out the choke to warm up- up to a minute. It starts right up without > hestiation when tapping the on switch. However, the past week, it would not > start right up, I had to also give it one twist of the throttle to get it > going. Im starting to wonder... Anyone know the symptoms to a dying > stator? Or is it this weird cold blast from Alaska? Didn't have this > problem in January when it was freeeeezing. > > Got my fingers crossed... > Mike V > Stockton CA -- ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. * ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "HPCE Gerard" To: "Mike Ver Velde" , , Subject: Re: PC800: PC stator Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:45:44 +0200 >I hope this is not a symptom of a dying stator... anyone > know when it is on their deathbed? Hi Mike, A few weeks ago I had the same problem, stator burned (see my posting on the list) as far as I know I had no warnings about a stator failure, it just died while we had our first ride of the season. Because the stator is sitting in motoroil and the stator isolation of the '89 models is not that good, the isolation of the stator wires is eaten away by the oil leaving the stator wires in open contact with the oil, this is what my dealer told me. Gerard -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 465 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:13:08 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: RE: [Stator and Oil filters] Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:14:27 -0400 Importance: Normal Alan, Welcome to the list. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! In terms of Alan's question regarding the oil filters, what are you all = using out there? I certainly don't want to be locked into paying 30-40 = smackers for a measly oil filter. --Doug ---------------------------------------------------- Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net '97 PC800 -- 4,000miles Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 10620095 ---------------------------------------------------- =20 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Hall Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 11:47 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject:=20 OK , I'm in! Hello Listers?! My name is Alan and I live in Houston. I'm = at alanh@wt.net After more than 10 years without a bike, I finally managed = to get my hands on one. I remember when the first PC 800 came out ,and = thought it was a really nice looking motorcycle. Even elegant. I only got the = bug to get another bike recently, so it's odd that I not only purchased a PC = 800, but an 89' to boot! It has less than 4500 miles and was kept in a = garage, so it is in very good shape. The only mod is the addition of the Honda passenger backrest. It's been very windy in Houston recently, so I'm not sure if the wind noise I hear is caused by the stock windshield, the unusually windy conditions here, or the old full face helmet I have. One question before I get off - Is it OK to use the Purolator ML16817 or the Fram CA 3559 oil filters? ie; do they afford adequate protection = compared to the Honda filter? I've heard that that the Honda filter is between $30 = and $40 ! Ouch! Thanks in advance.=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: First Mini-tour Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 07:15:55 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Pat and Paul, > >Me too, too. El Nino is messing up the riding here in the south S.F. Bay >Area. >I am at 554 miles with a new '96. I went down to Morgan Hill yesterday >and ran >into some rain. I'll get the miles tonight or tomorrow. > >Roy T. > >San Jose, CA Congrats on the 600 miles...up here in Wisconsin..it's the cold AND the rain forecast for the week! It does take a while to warm up to spring here. Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:50:35 -0400 From: "David J. Fial" To: pc800 listserv Subject: PC800: Drafty? I've done both for the following: Tucked in my pants into riding booting and use 1 piece of velco 1" around each pant leg. It depends on whether I am wearing my boots or work boots. Dave -- David J. Fial (fialdj@erols.com, fialdj@usa.net) Telecommunications Engineer & Bowling Equipment supplier Richmond, VA GO Sabres!!! Going for the cup!!! Beware the Penguin(Bud Ice)!!! Give Blood, Play Hockey! 1984 Yamaha Venture Royale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:39:43 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: Baker Air Wings ---------------------- Forwarded by Roger Ries/MGS/MOORE on 04/07/98 10:39 AM --------------------------- Roger Ries 04/07/98 10:36 AM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cableguy@one.net cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Baker Air Wings (Document link not converted) http://www.bakerbuilt.com/ Later Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 08:26:12 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Oil filter, gas can, MSF, crashing Hello Chuck. Thanks for the part numbers. Will have to look into those. I am glad to hear that your buddy is ok and I hope they find that individual who left the scene of an accident. Two things you said jumped at me, especially since you said you recently took the MSF course. You mention that your friend "locked them up" before impact. Did he take the MSF course as well? You also mentioned that "he didn't have time to lay it down..." Surely your MSF instructor tried to erase the myth of "when all else fails, lay it down." Rubber is much more effective at scrubbing off speed that metal or plastic is. I am sure his impact speed would have been significantly greater if he had opted for that, maybe even end up under the car. Any way, glad it turned out ok. Time for an MSF refresher? It is for me! Too bad Cory isn't around anymore. He usually got me in to the ones offered at Fort Wainwright. >Cycle magazine Sept. 88 issue has a great article on the subject. I'm sticking with >leather, besides, it doesn't burn or melt on ya! With out knocking leather (I still like it a lot) you'd be surprised how much clothing technology has improved in the ten years since that article was printed. It might be worth your while to look into the new synthetic suits now available. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Ride safe! Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Prather To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Further warmup query Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:02:07 -0800 Don't believe everything you read... Plug fouling is only a serious issue with leaded gas, which only aircraft and racing vehicles are still allowed to burn. Motorcycles sold in states with the most strict emissions requirements (CA and about 5 others) are set to run really lean to minimize the unburned hydrocarbons (fuel) emitted from the engine. I believe that too rich of a mixture can wash the oil off of the cylinder walls promoting wear, but if you have enough oil in your cylinders to foul your plugs, you have a more serious problem than a rich mixture (like broken piston rings). The coughing and sputtering isn't really a serious problem unless you lose control of the bike. Dave '96 PC (CA model) that coughs and sputters a little after I warm it up for about a minute. >---------- >From: rider.stan@juno.com[SMTP:rider.stan@juno.com] > >One recurring theme seemed to be the avoidance of too rich a mixture >which could foul plugs and/or thin the oil. Someone recommended leaving >the choke on for only about 15 seconds, and then riding off to complete >warmup while riding (avoiding engine strain and high revs while so doing, >of course). I tried this the other day to the accompaniment of the most >god-awful case of coughing, sputtering, lurching I had ever experienced. > > Stan B. > '90 PC "Miss Ruby" > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:54:44 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:54:13 -0400 From: JAN DEROOS To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: I have 27,000 miles with the original stator. No eminent problem I have 27,000 miles with the original stator. No eminent problem is evident. I guess the big day is still coming when need to confront the dreaded 'stator problem'. Jan deRoos 1989 PC800, 'Moby', 27,000 mi. >>> Scot Piper 04/06/98 09:50pm >>> There are 3 Honda dealers within a 25 mile radius of my home. I have spoken with all 3 about the '89 stator issue. All 3 deny there was a problem. In fact, 1 of them claims to have never sold a PC800 stator, only Goldwing stators. I'm concerned my '89 will fail soon. Are there any members with high mileage '89 PC800's that have NOT had their stator fail? Sounds like a cover up by Honda. If mine fails soon, how will I know if I'm getting the upgraded stator - I assume Honda would not use an inferior design for replacement parts... Scot '89 PC800 14,100 miles (less than 10,000 to go until stator failure according to this list)... ------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:17:52 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:15:09 -0600 From: David Drake To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: soft luggage for PC 800 Dear fellow/female owners of this great bike: I am looking for soft luggage (not saddle bags, but the kind that fits over the standard passenger rest) for my '89 bike. Anybody found something that works well for them? I'd appreciate hearing about it. One system I looked at would not fit over the passenger rest - the bag notch was too small as the width on the PC800 passenger rest may be wider than most. I appreciate previous answers to my questions about the radio and now have a hookup from my helmet to the Hondaline radio - works great on the highways. David Drake Des Moines Pearl White '89 PC800 ddrake@uomhs.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChuckQdini Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:35:13 EDT To: jgoula@ims.uaf.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil filter, gas can, MSF, crashing Juan: My buddy hasn't taken either of the MSF safety courses (yet!) but has enough sense and experience to know that staying on the brakes or swearving is far more effective than laying the bike down. Unfortunately, he ran out of time, traction and options at the same time. The two main teaching points seemed to be that the wear of proper protective gear is a must and there are idiots out there that shouldn't be on the road. He took me to the crash site and we walked through the accident on the ground. Except for lengthening his following distance, (remember she was in a different lane), the only advice that I could give him was to assume that everybody on the road is out to murder you and drive with that attitude. Stay alert, stay alive. On a different note, and I know that I'm stirring the poop pot here, is the subject of "factory" oil and filters being superior to after market products. My buddy who crashed is a factory trained Harley mechanic and he assures me that Harley (and any other bike maker) does not make their own oil or filters. They are made by contract companies with the "factory" label stamped on. Quality oil is quality oil, "Honda" label or not. Same with filters, all things being equal (manufacturing tolerances). Would you rather buy a K&N air filter or a "factory" one? I'm not saying that "factory" oil & filters are not the way to go, just that after market quality parts are OK too (especially if you need a filter NOW). Let me get off this soapbox. Life is short and unpredictable, eat dessert first! Chuck Chiodini (rider with more options thanks to MSF) 89 PC "Scooter" (getting a power plug installed this weekend) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SLC01673; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:52:22 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:14:54 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: headlightt bulbs On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:42:34 -0400 Dave Bartlett writes: >On Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 03:41:43PM -0400, Prince, Roger wrote: >There is a point where the headlight switch activates both high and low beam. I >know, from experience, that the 55/100 on my '95 will blow the fuse if it dwells on >that spot for long. Otherwise it's ok. I have the 55/100 in; put it in about 30K ago when I blew the original and a replacement OEM bulb in short order. I've ridden with it set in the "Twin Bulb" position for hours on end and never had a problem...knock on wood. Oh, yeah, it's plastic! Tim Macy Portland, OR The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 68,192 Miles "There's no place like http://www.home.com" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SLF01673; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:52:22 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:35:44 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Wisdom to pass along from Harley-Land... On Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:13:37 -0400 "Steve & Diane Scudder " writes: >Hello all, > >O.K. now everyone pay close attention to the "Big Bikers Lesson of the Day": (rest of message deleted). Oh, that IS funny! About two weeks ago I was out in the front yard when a Harleyer came down our dead-end road on a REALLY ratty old straight-piped Harley. When he came back up the road, he stopped and asked for directions. As he was taking off, I noted that he had a long bungee cord whipping around on the ground behind him and that his rear tire had about 5 pounds of air in it. So, good samaritan that I am, I hopped in the car so I could catch him and inform him of these problems. He was sitting by the side of the road just around the corner from the stop sign when I got there; I pointed out what I had seen and he said that the bungee cord had gotten caught between the rear tire and the fender as he went around the corner and he almost wrecked. When I pointed out that his rear tire was SERIOUSLY underinflated and he could come back down to the house and fill it up, he declined, saying that he'd take care of it "when he got a chance". Duh..... Tim Macy Portland, OR The StealthMobile ('94 PC800) - 68,192 Miles "There's no place like http://www.home.com" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TUF01673; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:05:04 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:12:22 -0700 Subject: PC800: Down By The Riverside... Hey, John, check this out: www.Riverside-inn.com/ This was one of the places I found on the net; I think I found it from a Yahoo search. There's also a site for the Southern Oregon Vacation Guide: www.sova.org/ Have fun surfing! Tim _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:15:55 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "Douglas Ford" Cc: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: Re: PC800: RE: [Stator and Oil filters] Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:14:28 -0400 >In terms of Alan's question regarding the oil filters, what are you all using out there? >I certainly don't want to be locked into paying 30-40 smackers for a measly oil filter. Stock Honda filter, 3 for $20.00 from local dealer. Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 705(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:15:00 -0700 "Re: PC800: Wisdom to pass along from Harley-Land..." (Apr 7, 2:35pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wisdom to pass along from Harley-Land... Dear all: I missed this one entirely. Could someone please forward me the original email? Thanks, Ramin -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:41:22 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Forgot the best part! Re:"Harleyland" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:39:34 -0400 Here's an addendum to my earlier post: After having left the gas station, we circle around and guess what? Apparently Mr. Real Biker is also a meteorologist as well-He must have sensed a real cold spell coming on as we observed him "donating" some of his rear tire's air to the stations compressor hose! Gotta keep those "Real Bike" tires nice and toasty... Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 705(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:42:14 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Forgot the best part! Re:"Harleyland" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:40:35 -0400 Here's an addendum to my earlier post: After having left the gas station, we circled around the block and guess what? Apparently Mr. Real Biker is a meteorologist as well-He must have sensed a real cold spell coming on as we observed him "donating" some of his rear tire's air to the stations compressor hose! Gotta keep those "Real Bike" tires nice and toasty... Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 705(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:06:28 EDT To: gavinan@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast In a message dated 98-04-06 18:27:20 EDT, gavinan@erols.com writes: << I just got a quote of $75 for a set of disc brake pads. Is there anywhere that I may be able to get replacement pads at a more reasonable price? >> Call Chaparral and ask for EBC Blacks... My guess is that they will cost about half of what you were quoted... You could also go for the EBC Double H's if they make them for the PC at this time... 800-841-2960... MAW or any decent discounter would also offer the same sort of deal... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id UAA06610 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:51:09 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Drafty Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:51:51 -0400 Actually yes, I did consider putting a spoiler of some sort under the front bumpers (that's what Honda calls the 'crash bars') but ultimately settled on a different solution. There's a product sold by outdoors shops generally for cross-country skiers called gaitors (or maybe it's gators or perhaps gaiters ... but you get the point). At any rate my wife ordered us each a set from Lands End - they are water and wind proofed nylon fabric with elastic at the top and bottom and a velcro faster. They wrap around your calf and hook to your boot laces. At first I scoffed but now that I've tried them I concluded they are perfect for this problem. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Karen and Tom [SMTP:malcolm@redsuspenders.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:40 PM To: pacific coast owners group Subject: PC800: Drafty After another cool ride today(35 degrees at the start) I was wondering if anyone had ever considered any aerodynamic to the body work to eliminate the "draft up the pant leg syndrome. Or perhaps I'm the only one too cheap to buy a riding suit!? Tom Boynton 89PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:21:18 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Doug Subject: PC800: Maintenance Parts Today I bought a Fram CA3559 AIR FILTER $4.97(not oil filter) and cannot figure out how to make it fit into plastic frame and under cover, I cut out the old paper from the frame and the new one fits in there but cover will not go on. I also got a price from Honda dealer for air filter $39.50. Big difference in price but good only if it works, I also bought the following at Walmart: Spark Plugs Champion 810 RA8HC $1.34 ea Oil Filter Fram PH3593A $ 2.50 $10.99 Honda Dealer Air Filter Fram CA3559 $ 4.97 $ 39.50 " " Mobil 1 10W30 oil $ 3.97 qt All r suppose to be comparable to OEM. Any comments or suggestions before I install all the above. I await your informed help. Thanks, Doug 94 Knight Rider -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:22:42 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Karen and Tom" , "pacific coast owners group" Subject: Re: PC800: Drafty Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:07:31 -0400 When it cools off, I use an old army trick....blouse my boots. Mike Whited ---------- > From: Karen and Tom > To: pacific coast owners group > Subject: PC800: Drafty > Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:39 PM > > After another cool ride today(35 degrees at the start) I was wondering if > anyone had ever considered any aerodynamic to the body work to eliminate the > "draft up the pant leg syndrome. Or perhaps I'm the only one too cheap to > buy a riding suit!? > > Tom Boynton > 89PC > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:22:47 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , "Gavin Webster" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 94 Pacific Coast Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:11:33 -0400 > > $36 for the front pair from Chaparral. Guess that makes about $75 for a > complete set. BTW, how many miles on your bike? I only hvae 14k and my > front brakes look worn. I know others with 50k and they have no > trouble. How long should PC800 brakes last? > > Scot > '89 PC800 I replaced mine at 36K, but they didn't need it. They probably had another 10-20 K left. Mike ' 94 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:22:51 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , "Hall" Subject: PC800: Re: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:18:47 -0400 Fram makes a motorcycle filter for the PC its PH6017A. Mike ' 94 ---------- > From: Hall > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: > Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 11:46 PM > > OK , I'm in! Hello Listers?! My name is Alan and I live in Houston. I'm at > alanh@wt.net After more than 10 years without a bike, I finally managed to > get my hands on one. I remember when the first PC 800 came out ,and thought > it was a really nice looking motorcycle. Even elegant. I only got the bug to > get another bike recently, so it's odd that I not only purchased a PC 800, > but an 89' to boot! It has less than 4500 miles and was kept in a garage, so > it is in very good shape. The only mod is the addition of the Honda > passenger backrest. It's been very windy in Houston recently, so I'm not > sure if the wind noise I hear is caused by the stock windshield, the > unusually windy conditions here, or the old full face helmet I have. One > question before I get off - Is it OK to use the Purolator ML16817 or the > Fram CA 3559 oil filters? ie; do they afford adequate protection compared to > the Honda filter? I've heard that that the Honda filter is between $30 and > $40 ! Ouch! Thanks in advance. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA08155; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:28:20 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Stan Brady'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Further warmup query Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:02:24 -0400 That was my reply. My PC runs fine after a short period on the choke. No coughing or sputtering. I don't know where you live but I do have a 49 state model. The California model, I believe, has different emission settings and if you have one of those it's probably set so lean that it can barely run without the choke. Also, carb balance will likely have a dramatic effect during marginally lean operation at low rpms. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Stan Brady [SMTP:rider.stan@juno.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 9:07 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Further warmup query Thanks to all for the usual thoughtful commentary, this time concerning the side-stand warmup issue. Some good ideas about engine care, too. One recurring theme seemed to be the avoidance of too rich a mixture which could foul plugs and/or thin the oil. Someone recommended leaving the choke on for only about 15 seconds, and then riding off to complete warmup while riding (avoiding engine strain and high revs while so doing, of course). I tried this the other day to the accompaniment of the most god-awful case of coughing, sputtering, lurching I had ever experienced. I can't believe THAT is any good for the engine either. Of course, the ambient temp was only 40 when this occurred, so maybe I was pushing too far to the opposite extreme. My further question is whether or not this behavior could be an indication of some of that plug fouling. I only have 4,000 miles on the bike and when it is fully warm it runs in true PC fashion--flawlessly. Your further thoughts, please, folks. Thanks again. Stan B. '90 PC "Miss Ruby" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VKI18556; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:15:24 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:14:22 -0400 Subject: PC800: Oil Filters From: swift24@juno.com (John D Louk) I bought a case of ten (10) Honda oil filters at the Hoot last year for $60.00 and sent them UPS back home. Seller was a dealer having a "special". My local dealer asks $10.98 for one. John Louk Carmel, IN '90 PC "Ruby" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:36:50 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:36:20 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Replacement parts To: HondaPacificCoastOwners I read some of these messages about folks scrounging around to save money= on spark plugs, oil filters, air filters, etc., and I am a amazed! You'd think that these parts have to be replaced once a month! While I have no problem shopping around to get the best price for OEM stuff, I can't see the merit in using non-OEM stuff. Sorry, but things like oil filters just= ain't the same! A former HSTA member who used to work with American Honda= (and was our Technical Advisor) and is an ace #1 mechanic and former MMI instructor, cut a Honda filter and an after-market filter apart. While th= ey may look the same outside, they ain't the same inside! Air filters - how often do you replace one - every year or two? Get the best price and buy = a factory filter. Keep buying stuff from your auto parts store and that's where you'll be getting your bike worked on, cuz your dealer will be selling watercraft, wood stoves, lawn mowers or something besides motorcycles. Years ago when I was young and foolish, and used to mount my own tires, I= would get them from a mail order house. Now that I am older and wiser, an= d have this work done at my dealer's, I order tires from there. I don't ask= for a discount - they give me one and I don't question the amount. I want= them around form now on when I need them! In my many, many years of riding, I have come to the conclusion that ther= e are a lot of cheapskates on two wheels! Your bike represents a big investment - take care of it, and it will take= care of you! Dana Sawyer P.S. Yes, I have my flame-proof pajamas on!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 4801500 ; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:41:03 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:42:37 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Stealth Edging I know this topic was posted before, but I didn't pay attention the first time. How well does that Saeng Stealth Edging work on a stock PC800 shield? Also, do I need to purchase the edging AND the tape? If so, that looks like about $60 total at $10/ft each. Thanks in advance for advice from the experienced. Scot '89 PC800 --------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 443 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:52:45 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: RE: PC800: Replacement parts Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:54:07 -0400 Importance: Normal Oh, and I'd venture to guess that you'd proclaim you buy MOPAR (or whatever your cage brand is) oil filters versus Fram!? Whatever................... ---------------------------------------------------- Douglas Ford -- mailto:dford@tidalwave.net Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 10620095 ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of Dana L. Sawyer Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 10:36 PM To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: PC800: Replacement parts I read some of these messages about folks scrounging around to save money on spark plugs, oil filters, air filters, etc., and I am a amazed! You'd think that these parts have to be replaced once a month! While I have no problem shopping around to get the best price for OEM stuff, I can't see the merit in using non-OEM stuff. Sorry, but things like oil filters just ain't the same! A former HSTA member who used to work with American Honda (and was our Technical Advisor) and is an ace #1 mechanic and former MMI instructor, cut a Honda filter and an after-market filter apart. While they may look the same outside, they ain't the same inside! Air filters - how often do you replace one - every year or two? Get the best price and buy a factory filter. Keep buying stuff from your auto parts store and that's where you'll be getting your bike worked on, cuz your dealer will be selling watercraft, wood stoves, lawn mowers or something besides motorcycles. Years ago when I was young and foolish, and used to mount my own tires, I would get them from a mail order house. Now that I am older and wiser, and have this work done at my dealer's, I order tires from there. I don't ask for a discount - they give me one and I don't question the amount. I want them around form now on when I need them! In my many, many years of riding, I have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of cheapskates on two wheels! Your bike represents a big investment - take care of it, and it will take care of you! Dana Sawyer P.S. Yes, I have my flame-proof pajamas on!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:01:14 -0400 To: scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging At 10:42 PM -0400 4/7/98, Scot Piper wrote: >I know this topic was posted before, but I didn't pay attention the >first time. How well does that Saeng Stealth Edging work on a stock >PC800 shield? Hi Scot. Be prepared for a dozen different answers on this one. There are variables at work here that alter the perception of effect. How well it works depends on your height, driving speed, helmet quality, etc. I'm 6'2" and have a 34" inseam, and I slouch a bit when I ride. I had originally bought the Saeng edging as a temporary fix. I was leaving in a few days for a 500+ mile ride, and didn't have time to get a Rifle shield. As it turns out, I felt that it was doing a significant difference, and now, one year later, I still have it on and no longer think about getting a Rifle shield. Others on this list have tried the Saeng and gone with a Rifle shield anyhow. I think there are even a few members who have Saeng edging on a Rifle shield! Personally I like it. It makes the stock windscreen feel like it is a few inches taller and wider. There's still some wind, but it seems better controlled now. For my height and riding position, the real nice "sweet spot" when driving is at about 75mph. It's really smooth at that speed. Oh yeah...I only have the edging. It fit perfectly on the stock shield of my 95. I don't know what the tape is that you mentionned. Good luck... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:15:11 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Richard A. Nadeau" , John Louk , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio Today I called a company in Colorado that sell all kinds of radios and asked about the 3-in-1. It is mono. I would rather have stereo. I already have the Chatterbox intercom in both helmets and with a little Sony FM  I am happy with the way it sounds. The Colo. folks have a really neat and compact cb/weather radio that I may have to order. It added to what I have now would set me up fine. New Midland 75-820 - With Frequency Display, Weather and Hazard Alert! Check it out. The guy I talked to said that the adapter for the 12 volt and antenna shown at the bottom of the page could be fastened to the bike and the radio would snap securely to it. You could carry the battery with you for portability away from the bike. Looks like potential for a neat install.
Steve Wilson
Ruston LA.
95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:20:08 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Richard A. Nadeau" , John Louk , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Combination Radio I forgot to mention the prices. The 3-in-1 is $99 and the little radio without FM is $89. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LRaeMiller Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:16:05 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging In a message dated 4/7/98 9:40:38 PM Central Daylight Time, scotp1965@mdn.net writes: << I know this topic was posted before, but I didn't pay attention the first time. How well does that Saeng Stealth Edging work on a stock PC800 shield? Also, do I need to purchase the edging AND the tape? If so, that looks like about $60 total at $10/ft each. Thanks in advance for advice from the experienced. Scot '89 PC800 --------- >> You should have an increase of about 3" of wind protection - the wind is not really gone, but it is "broken up" so it doesn't roar as loud or beat your helmet as much. You buy either the edging or the tape, not both. The edging does fit on the original shield and looks pretty good, too. I just put it on the '90 original shield and it took 4 feet (we had a couple of inches left over). The '89 shield is some shorter, but be sure to measure carefully. They will talk with you when you call to make sure you are getting what you need. I think they will sell by the foot or 1/2 foot with a minimum order of 3 feet. Mine arrived 2 days after I ordered and I am sure enjoying it!! Lynda Miller '90 PC, 10700 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:17:37 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall Subject: PC800: PC 800 tires Joelyn, aka sir rance alot@bigfoot.com No one has contacted me about tires. My "new" 89' still has the original dunlops. I don't have enough time on the bike yet to tell you if they're good or not, but most people seem not to like them. Fortunatly, I don't have to replace them immediatly, which gives me time to research. I've searched the archives and have become very confused with all of the various opinions on tires. I assume this reflects the various riding styles of the riders. Good luck with your tire shopping! I'll post on the list if I find a set I plan to use. Tried to E-mail you- must have the wrong address. Alan alanh@wt.net Houston,TX 89' PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 01:45:27 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:45:18 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state Here is the listing of PC800 owners by state: NAME CITY E-MAIL ADDRESS AK Juan Goula Fairbanks jgoula@ims.uaf.edu Josephine Ruby Juneau Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us CA Tom Brown San Diego tom@islanddata.com Guy Chinn Fremont chinn@thegrid.net Greg Eyrich Sacramento greg_eyrich@hotmail.com Richard Hardy San Diego rahardy@juno.com John & Julie Hendrix Corona aslankid@earthlink.net Erin Keyvan Mountain View pastry@leland.Stanford.EDU George Korbel Pleasanton korbel1@popsicle.llnl.gov John LaFreniere Reseda johnla@yahoo.com Phil Lewis Mission Viejo pilewis1@concentric.net Mark Lucas Pasadena mjlucas@earthlink.net Eric Matthews Irvine ericeric@concentric.net Alan Taylor Long Beach ka2wij@earthlink.net Roy Thomassen San Jose rthomass@ccmail.com Mike Ver Velde Stockton m.vervelde@MCI2000.com Hallman Wong Aliso Viejo, hwong29@idt.net Foster City CO Lewis Farmer Colorado Springs pacificcoast800@yahoo.com Alexande Gray Denver agray@milehigh.denver.net Doug Jewsbury Berthoud DJewsb@aol.com Karl Siebrecht Westminster karl@nvti.cudenver.edu CT Stan Brady Vernon rider.stan@juno.com Jason Grant Middletown Crazyapple@ibm.net John & Robin Scalisi Torrington pcrider@snet.net DE Ted Johnson Wilmington TedJ101@aol.com FL Ray Christian Plantation raygator@bellsouth.net Bill & Cheryl Johnson West Palm Beach clynnj@flinet.com Jim Laverty Key Largo JBLAV@aol.com GA Randy Ashurst Brunswick ashurst@gate.net Blaise Box Duluth staging@earthlink.net Dennis Holcomb Ellijay dholcomb@ellijay.com Dave Lott Marietta dlwinger@ix8.ix.netcom.com Monty Shaw Duluth mashaw@mindspring.com IA Michael Brown Pella ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net IL Joseph Licari Wheeling (Chicago Area) JLicari721@aol.com Todd Zedak Chicago GuntherSki@aol.com IN Tom Ambrosio Evansville tambrosi@evansville.net John Louk Carmel swift24@juno.com Dave & Barb Ludington Farmland lud96@netdirect.net Charles Shepler Marion stampman@comteck.com KS Bernie Kohler Overland Park AppleBit@aol.com Lynda Miller Wichita LRaeMiller@aol.com KY Doug Alexander Paducah di9731@vci.net LA Mica Landry Donaldsonville micavet@juno.com Steve Wilson Ruston deere@linknet.net MA Stan Amero Gloucester radrider@gis.net Paul Gormley Marblehead PRGormley@aol.com Don Mackie Boxborough dmac@ma.ultranet.com Roger Prince Franklin RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com MD Doug Ford Odenton dford@tidalwave.net Amy Rottier Bowie platypus69@yahoo.com Gary Smith Rockville speerboy@juno.com MI Scot Piper Midland scotp1965@mdn.net Steve Scudder Grand Rapids greyhound@bizgroup.net MN Roger Ries Chaska Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com Greg Vaughn Saint Paul vaugh015@tc.umn.edu MO Mark Gilb St. Louis mgilb@mdc.com NC Chuck Chiodini Fayetteville ChuckQdini@aol.com NJ Al Koellhoffer Trenton Akoell@aol.com Mike McIlmoyle Parsippany bobmcil@bellatlantic.net Tony Morgano Central rednorton@email.msn.com Keith Sproul North Brunswick ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu Steven Weinerman Randolph slwcpa@ix.netcom.com NY Tom Boynton Newark malcolm@redsuspenders.com Jeffrey & Nancy Guntert Petersburg retrofit@taconic.net Joe Koson Perry JHK@wycol.com OH Joe Bersford Cincinnati cableguy@one.net Jeff Leech Centerville jleech@erinet.com Mike Whited Columbus MikeTW@worldnet.att.net OR Bob Anundson Tualatin boba@teleport.com Wanda Bailie Cornelius wanda_bailie@smtpgw.kentrox.com Don Bennett Lowell dbennett@clipper.net Doyle Frazier Lebanon Doylefish@aol.com Tim Macy Portland timmacy@juno.com PA Ed Roberts Hickory vespaed@wpol.com TN Ron Mott Lawrenceburg rme@pobox.usit.net Rich Nadeau Nashville leakysneaker@mindspring.com Jim Randall Kingsport jrandall@tricon.net J.T. Smith Clarksville JTSMCRIDER@aol.com TX Craig Carter San Antonio ccarter@wans.net James Geist Lubbock jgeistlubtx@door.net Tyler Hart Boerne tnard@txdirect.net Jeffrey King Krum jking@iglobal.net Earl Laue Dallas EarlLaue@aol.com Mike Mangum Houston mangum@hal-pc.org Gary Wade Galveston GaryWOTR@aol.com UT Richard Stucky Park City RSTUCKY@novell.com VA Fernando Hernandez Jr. Fairfax FERNDO@aol.com Dick Stafford Aylett dickie@bealenet.com VT David DeLang Cambridge ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu WA Gordon Gazaway Redmond gordong@MICROSOFT.com Drew Green Everett atg@technologist.com Dave Gross Seattle dkgross@halcyon.com Dan Messaros Port Angeles & Dan_Messaros@nps.gov Lake Ozette Ranger Station,Clallam Bay Dave Shumaker Puyallup kd7yd@sprynet.com Bryce Ulrich Kirkland bryceu@worldnet.att.net Todd Vierheller Brier (Seattle Area) todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com WI Paul Atkins Marinette patkins@mari.net Bob Rufener Hartford ruf@nconnect.net Mark Wendt Appleton marwen@athenet.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:31:38 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall Subject: PC800: Thanks! To all ya'll ( all ya'll is the plural of ya'll) on the PC 800 list - Thanks for making a rookie feel welcome! I have recieved numerous messages from various people through-out the country and all have been generous in their efforts to answer my questions. Thanks and enjoy the summer! Alan alanh@wt.net Houston,TX 89' PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:21:44 EDT To: Crazyapple@ibm.net, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, speerboy@juno.com Cc: bmckenna@mint.net, JLicari721@aol.com, Emile@CyberComm.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800: Helmeted? You can also ride through Texas sans helmet. The helmet law was rescinded by the state legislature last year. The most vocal proponents of no helmets on the capitol steps were the Harley drivers! Here in Galveston, I still see most riders with helmets on. Since I've bounced my head off the pavement twice in 23 years--and was wearing a helmet--this rider will ALWAYS have the lid on! gary a. wade galveston island, texas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:26:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark & Cathy Kaiser" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: oil filters-think twice! Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:15:46 -0700 Chuck wrote: >Some items that might be of interest: 1) Purolator oil filter for 89-90 PC, part # ML16817, replaces Honda # 15410-MM9. Threads look OK when I compared them with the Honda filter. PEP Boys $5.49< If you want to go aftermarket, at least get a motorcycle filter because there's a lot more to oil filter design than the threads that attach it. Oil filters typically have integrated pressure relief valves as a safety back-up system. The valve is calibrated to open when pressure rises to a certain level. If the filter becomes clogged, instead of your motor dying from no oil, the valve opens and passes oil. When you use a filter that the manufacturer does not specifically recommend for your application you run the risk that the relief valve (assuming they didn't leave it out to cut costs) is calibrated too light and will pass unfiltered oil all the time, or too heavy and will never open in an emergency. Then there's stuff like filter paper porosity, surface area, seal materials and container integrity where a manufacturer can further cheapen a product & cut costs. Honda's suggested retail price is something like $10 and change. Personally, I can think of a better ways to save $100 ($5 "savings" x 20 changes in 100K miles). >My buddy who crashed is a factory trained Harley mechanic and he assures me that Harley (and any other bike maker) does not make their own oil or filters. They are made by contract companies with the "factory" label stamped on. < You're right, the actual manufacturing of many genuine factory parts, oils & chemicals are contracted out. However, you seem to imply that factories simply take what is offered and put their label on it. While that may happen in some cases it's generally not how it works. The suppliers build to factory specs using factory supplied blue-prints. Whether the parts these suppliers sell under their own brand are "factory quality" is not a given. IMHO the term "OEM quality" is the single most abused/misused term used by the aftermarket. Generally speaking, you're pretty safe with a well known aftermarket brand (with a reputation to lose if your not happy), especially if they are also an OEM supplier because the hurdles to being accepted are so rigorous. Regards, Mark 97 RED kaismo@worldnet.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:38:14 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark & Cathy Kaiser" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Stealth Edging Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:27:00 -0700 I believe the only difference between the edging and the tape is mounting method. The edging has a molded groove that slips over the edge of the shield. It's nice because you can take it on and off (switch to another bike?) as needed. The tape has the same airfoil shape that does the work, but instead of a grove, it is flat bottomed and installs with double sided adhesive tape. Once installed, it is not easily removed. Regards, Mark & Cathy kaismo@worldnet.att.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:40:51 EDT To: fsl@borgconsulting.com, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging I have also heard good things about putting Saeng Edging on the stock Honda Wind Screen, but the primary problem seems to be "angle of attack" into the wind. The Saeng probably creates a comfort zone, but may not solve the noise situation. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:24:46 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging I have to say...I tried the Saeng and hated it. It -functioned- wonderfuly, but I found it incredibly visually distracting. I wish they made it clear instead of black... -- Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog www.halcyon.com/dkgross AOL Inst.Msg. 'dkgross' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: speerboy@juno.com by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id CAG18760; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:41:04 EDT To: malcolm@redsuspenders.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Drafty Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:41:04 EDT Dear all, So glad to hear that I wasn't the only one who noticed this draft. It annoyed me to the point of attatching some cut out sheet-aluminum (used for duct repairs) to the two allen bolts under each crash bar. It provides great wind and splash protection but looks worse than anything I've ever bought from JC Whitney! (bad) I was hoping there was some sort of Hondaline guard. If not I may break out the glue gun! Gary Smith '90 "Coast" 15k Caps win the cup! Caps win the Cup! Caps win the Cup! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Drafty Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 07:09:38 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" > There's a product sold >by outdoors shops generally for cross-country skiers called gaitors >(or maybe it's gators or perhaps gaiters ... but you get the point). >At any rate my wife ordered us each a set from Lands End - they >are water and wind proofed nylon fabric with elastic at the top and >bottom and a velcro faster. They wrap around your calf and hook >to your boot laces. At first I scoffed but now that I've tried them I >concluded they are perfect for this problem. Also pretty good for cross country skiing :) !!!! > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 07:10:04 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" Francois, thanks for your post below...I am 6 foot one inch and don't find the wind troublesome now..after riding an older CB 750 with a vetter faring, I like the wind flowing through the vents in my helmet, and I like looking over the windshield instead of through it. But, I was wondering about the SAENG edging as well. Do you find the black color distracting while you ride? Paul >Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging >Sent: 4/7/98 10:01 PM >From: fsl@borgconsulting.com >To: Patkins > > >At 10:42 PM -0400 4/7/98, Scot Piper wrote: >>I know this topic was posted before, but I didn't pay attention the >>first time. How well does that Saeng Stealth Edging work on a stock >>PC800 shield? > >Hi Scot. > >Be prepared for a dozen different answers on this one. There are variables >at work here that alter the perception of effect. How well it works depends >on your height, driving speed, helmet quality, etc. I'm 6'2" and have a 34" >inseam, and I slouch a bit when I ride. I had originally bought the Saeng >edging as a temporary fix. I was leaving in a few days for a 500+ mile >ride, and didn't have time to get a Rifle shield. As it turns out, I felt >that it was doing a significant difference, and now, one year later, I >still have it on and no longer think about getting a Rifle shield. Others >on this list have tried the Saeng and gone with a Rifle shield anyhow. I >think there are even a few members who have Saeng edging on a Rifle shield! > > >Personally I like it. It makes the stock windscreen feel like it is a few >inches taller and wider. There's still some wind, but it seems better >controlled now. For my height and riding position, the real nice "sweet >spot" when driving is at about 75mph. It's really smooth at that speed. > >Oh yeah...I only have the edging. It fit perfectly on the stock shield of >my 95. I don't know what the tape is that you mentionned. > >Good luck... > >fsl :-) > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > >Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 >Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > >(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: MSF, crashing Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 07:11:18 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" Regarding MSF courses...I am amazed at the reaction of friends who ride when I suggest taking the course (I took the beginning course last summer, after a 20 year break from riding..and am signed up for the experienced course in May)..most don't react or minimize the effectiveness of such a course...Looking back, I wish there was such a thing when I began riding in college! Still encouraging others to take the course, Paul >Juan: > My buddy hasn't taken either of the MSF safety courses (yet!) but has >enough sense and experience to know that staying on the brakes or >swearving is >far more effective than laying the bike down. Unfortunately, he ran out of >time, traction and options at the same time. The two main teaching points >seemed to be that the wear of proper protective gear is a must and there are >idiots out there that shouldn't be on the road. He took me to the crash site >and we walked through the accident on the ground. Except for lengthening his >following distance, (remember she was in a different lane), the only advice >that I could give him was to assume that everybody on the road is out to >murder you and drive with that attitude. Stay alert, stay alive. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:38:25 -0500 Subject: RE: PC800: Replacement parts I went to a dealer once to get an oil filter for my Yamaha Maxim. The difference between the Yamaha filter and the Fram I buy 2 for $5.00? I also get the rubber o-rings with the Fram. Some things are not worth buying from the dealer, Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:37:58 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: "JAN DEROOS" , Subject: RE: PC800: I have 27,000 miles with the original stator. No eminentproblem Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:36:32 -0700 Importance: Normal 46,000 on my '89 and still running. The voltage regulator passed away not long ago. Interesting to note that Honda "upgraded" that part in later models of PC's in addition to the stator. No sense worrying about the stator and all. Ain't much if anything that can be done to prevent it. Just ride and enjoy. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:38:01 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: "Richard A Hardy" , Cc: , Subject: RE: PC800: headlightt bulbs Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:36:35 -0700 Importance: Normal Yep, still running the 80w low, 100w high bulb. I've had it burn out once but couldn't tell you how long or the miles. 20,000 maybe? Anyhow, before everyone runs out and replaces their bulbs, check out the aiming of the headlight first. When I got mine it was aimed sky high and it took a lot of turns on the adjustment screws to bring the light back to earth. I recall seeing lots of other posts in the past commenting the same. Pull up to a garage door at night and you'll see where it's pointed. Also, it's impossible to adjust the beam for the perfect high and low beam. Honda did a lousy job making the two match. When you aim the headlight choose the mode you prefer and aim accordingly. Personally I prefer a better low beam and have it setup just right. As a result though my high beam does a good job looking for birds nests in the trees. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:49:30 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Pads Hi, Gavin: Dennis Kirk has FERODO pads for 22.99 per caliper. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:49:35 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Further warmup query Hi, Stan: In a message dated 98-04-06 21:10:47 EDT, you write: << I tried this the other day to the accompaniment of the most god-awful case of coughing, sputtering, lurching I had ever experienced. I can't believe THAT is any good for the engine either. Of course, the ambient temp was only 40 when this occurred, so maybe I was pushing too far to the opposite extreme. My further question is whether or not this behavior could be an indication of some of that plug fouling. >> No plug fouling problem here--just a bit too early in returning the "choke" (it isn't really a choke, but it serves the same purpose) to OFF for that temperature. FWIW, here's the procedure I use in cold weather: Start the engine on full choke. Let it run for a few seconds (15 sounds reasonable); then, slowly push the button in until the engine begins to run rough. Pull the button back out to the point where the engine begins to run smoothly at a slightly fast idle. Put the bike in gear and ride. After a block or so push the button completely in. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:49:33 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Drafty Hi, Tom: You can get temporary relief by sliding your feet forward on the pegs a bit. It also helps to tuck your pants into your boot tops (or use some elastic bands to snug them at the bottom). Another solution is to wear the pants from a two-piece rain suit (the sort with elastic cuffs). JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:05:12 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" CC: PC800 Group Subject: PC800: Re: FW: Advice on PC800 Hi Bruce! I'm CC:ing your e-mail to the rest of the group as there are a lot of '89 owners who can give you some good advice on your PC. I have a '90 and so I don't have the electrical problems. For tires, I have Dunlop K177's. There have been a lot of discussions in the past, but many riders are using the Dunlops. I only have about 13,500 miles on my brakes and so far, there in good shape. I don't know how long they last, but I've done a fair amount of mixed, highway and local, driving. On your other questions, I'll let those with personal stator experience answer those. It's too bad you don't live in the Southern California area, as my PC is for sale. But, alas, I don't have the Corbin seat to offer! :( Take care, Phil -------------------------------- Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS) wrote: > Mr. Lewis, > > I am close to buying a '89 PC800 for $3,600. The lowdown on the bike: > > 23k miles, Tall hondaline Windscreen, Corbin seat w/backrest, trunk > > bags, and shop manual. The is aesthetically gorgeous, not a speck of > > dirt or scratch.......but I am leery. It 's tires are worn.....I > > would need to buy both tires. I was thinking ME33-compK front and > > ME88(Marathon) for the rear. Any suggestions? I also couldn't get a > > look at the brakes. After how many miles do you replace?(bike has > > almost exclusively highway miles). And last but most > > important!!!!!!!!! What is the deal with the stator? I read > > yesterday that the ones on 89 versions gives out around 24 or 25k > > miles. Was this a hit or miss problem or were all the stators bad? > > Did Honda try to rectify? What are my options? How much does this item > > cost if replaced? ...by dealer? ...myself, buying it through parts > > wholesaler? > > Thank You, > > g ____ GE Capital/ABG > > Bruce Bednarski > > Risk Leadership Program > > PH: 770-522-5045, 8*590-5045 > > FX: 770-353-2444 > > Email: BRUCE.BEDNARSKI@GECAPITAL.COM > > > > > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:09:23 -0400 To: "Paul B. Atkins" , "pc 800 list" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging At 7:10 AM -0500 4/8/98, Paul B. Atkins wrote: > But, I was wondering about the >SAENG edging as well. Do you find the black color distracting while you >ride? >Paul > I really don't even see it anymore. I know there are people on this list who really disliked the way it obscured their vision, but I can't help but think that these people are sitting lower in the seat than I do. I personally like it, since it does prevent rain that hits the shield from slipping up over the top and onto me. I have a 95 PC, so the black edging kind of blends into the overall color scheme. I'm not sure if this makes it less obvious as an add on. I've got a few pictures at http://www.magmacom.com/~fsl/pc800/matilda.html if you want to check it out. The edging is visible in a couple of the shots, but it wasn't the primary purpose for taking these pictures. If you want to see a better shot of the edging, from whatever angle, send me a message directly and I'll take a few shots and post them later. bye for now. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:09:19 -0700 To: Guy & Sonya From: Erin Keyvan Subject: Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Guy, Great job!! Thanks for all your time and effort in coordinating this project. Erin in Mtn. View (I haven't seen three consecutive days of sunshine since November) CA >Here is the listing of PC800 owners by state: > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Keyvan Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 e-mail: pastry@stanford.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:56:34 -0500 Subject: Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state Erin wrote: >Erin in Mtn. View (I haven't seen three consecutive days of sunshine since November) CA Roger in Chaska (I seen sun...huh...Thu..no...huh...let me see...it was...huh...last Friday, right thats it I did see sun on Friday.) MN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:45:50 -0400 To: Hall , PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: Re: PC800: PC 800 tires At 10:17 PM 4/7/98 -0500, Hall wrote: >No one has contacted me about tires. My "new" 89' still has the original >dunlops. I don't have enough time on the bike yet to tell you if they're >good or not, but most people seem not to like them. Fortunatly, I don't have >to replace them immediatly, which gives me time to research. I've searched >the archives and have become very confused with all of the various opinions >on tires. If your tires are original, then they are 10 years old. This is a strong suggestion to replace them ASAP. Old rubber loses its grip. Check out the Dunlop website. I believe it's http://www.dunloptire.com/cycle/index.html There is a lot of information on it. Bill Johnson 89pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: PC stator To: pclist FWIW: A less expensive option is to have a remanufactured stator installed. When the dealer presented me with this option (about $130, 30 day parts only warranty) I decided to try it. No regrets so far. JohnL ... If mine fails soon, how will I know if I'm getting > the upgraded stator - I assume Honda would not use an inferior design > for replacement parts... > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Shumaker To: "'scotp1965@mdn.net'" , "PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Stealth Edging Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:51:52 -0700 I have the Stealth Edging on my '97 with the stock Honda shield. No = tape. It made a tremendous difference for me. Prior to installing the = edging the buffeting at freeway speeds was not tolerable; now it is very = enjoyable at the same speeds. For reference, I'm 69 1/2 inches tall, 32 = inch inseam. Dave -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper [SMTP:scotp1965@mdn.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 7:43 PM To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Stealth Edging I know this topic was posted before, but I didn't pay attention the first time. How well does that Saeng Stealth Edging work on a stock PC800 shield? Also, do I need to purchase the edging AND the tape? If so, that looks like about $60 total at $10/ft each. Thanks in advance for advice from the experienced. Scot '89 PC800 --------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:51:26 -0400 From: "Richard A. Schuler" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1990 Red PC For Sale For Sale: 1990 Pacific Coast - Candy Apple Red - Garage Kept - Meticulously Maintained - Never been down - Honda Line Factory AM/FM Stereo - Both Upper and Lower Rear Spoilers - Metzler ML2 Tires - Rear Tire has 40 % tread left - Just under 44,000 mostly Highway Miles - Looks and Runs Like New - Recently Tuned with New Spark Plugs, Air Filter, Gear Oil, Coolant - Clutch and Brake Fluids - Oil and Oil Filter - Minor Scratches on windshield - Extra Sets of New SBS Front Brake Pads - Large Rear Shock was Replaced 14,000 miles ago. I own four Honda cycles, need to sell PC to make room in the garage. Asking $4,200 Located in Southern New Jersey - Will Deliver reasonable distance for fare home E-mail: RadarST@worldnet.att.net Richard Schuler -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: Biker News (Reuters) To: pclist I was wondering if any PC'ers were involved... Yeah, thats right, we bad! ;) Tuesday April 7 10:41 PM EDT 33 Charged in Long Island Biker Roundup UNIONDALE, N.Y. (Reuters) - Thirty members of a national motorcycle gang were arrested Tuesday on a host of charges ranging from conspiracy to commit murder to extortion, arson and weapons charges, officials said. Federal charges were filed against 33 members and associates of the Pagan Outlaw Motorcycle Club, a national organization with four Long Island chapters that was the focus of the joint law enforcement effort, the U.S. Attorney's office said. Twenty-seven defendants were arrested on Long Island Tuesday, three were arrested in Florida, Virginia or Pennsylvania and three remained at large, officials said. In one of two murder conspiracies, Thomas Laduca and Steven Deflorio, known as "Tom-Tom" and "Sarge", stabbed a Long Island topless nightclub manager because he refused to allow the Pagans to establish an extortion scheme at his club, The Carousel. Another attempt on the manager's life was made by Richard Recchion, Jay Clancy and Thomas Vandiver, known as "Magic", "One-Eye" and "Trucker", who allegedly attacked The Carousel with firebombs. The defendants face up to 10 years on the murder conspiracy charge and up to 40 years in the arson attack. A second murder conspiracy involved the rival Hell's Angels motorcycle gang, in which members of the Pagans conducted surveillance of their rivals in search of the best opportunity for an attack. Defendant Michael Desena, "Richie Bigfoot", is alleged to be the Pagans' national vice president. "This investigation has revealed the Pagans for what they are -- a criminal organization that uses violence and the threat of violence to enforce an extortion racked aimed at social clubs and other similar establishments on Long Island," said U.S. Attorney Zachary Carter. "Any romanticized notion of this group as fun-loving rogue bikers must yield to evidence that the Pagans engaged in serious acts of violence." The complaint, the result of a joint effort by the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Suffolk County police and the Nassau and Suffolk County district attorney's offices, also charged the bikers with a range of assaults against other outlaw motorcycle gang members, as well as former and present Pagan members, members of the public and a police officer. One incident took place at a Nathan's hot dog stand in Oceanside, on Long Island, where weekly motorcycle nights attract hundreds of bikers during the warm weather months. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:00:58 -0400 To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state At 10:56 AM -0500 4/8/98, Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com wrote: >Erin wrote: >>Erin in Mtn. View (I haven't seen three consecutive days of sunshine since >November) CA > >Roger in Chaska (I seen sun...huh...Thu..no...huh...let me see...it >was...huh...last Friday, right thats it I did see sun on Friday.) MN > > well....this doesn't happen alot, but it looks like I can brag about the local Ottawa weather. Blindingly bright and sunny, clear skies, no rain in sight, and highs in the low 60's. I went and picked up Matilda today at the warehouse where she was parked for the winter. There is alot to be said about paying for indoor heated storage. She turned over for about 20 seconds then fired right up. Well, I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got some riding to do!!!!! bye for now.... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:03:39 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Erin Keyvan Subject: Re: PC800: Biker News (Reuters) Alright!! Now they've gone too far!! Not only are they giving bikers a bad name, but they're doing an injustice to pagans far and wide. What's next? One can only speculate.... ;^) Erin (was that outloud?) Keyvan in Mountain View, CA >Tuesday April 7 10:41 PM EDT > >33 Charged in Long Island Biker Roundup > >UNIONDALE, N.Y. (Reuters) - Thirty members of a national motorcycle >gang were arrested Tuesday on a host of charges >ranging from conspiracy to commit murder to extortion, arson and >weapons charges, officials said. > >Federal charges were filed against 33 members and associates of the >Pagan Outlaw Motorcycle Club, a national organization >with four Long Island chapters that was the focus of the joint law >enforcement effort, the U.S. Attorney's office said. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Keyvan Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 e-mail: pastry@stanford.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:13:09 -0700 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: Erin Keyvan Subject: Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Francois, A big wet raspberry in your general direction! (of course it would have to be wet because we're all a little soggy here in El Nino stricken California. ) Erin > >well....this doesn't happen alot, but it looks like I can brag about the >local Ottawa weather. Blindingly bright and sunny, clear skies, no rain in >sight, and highs in the low 60's. I went and picked up Matilda today at >the warehouse where she was parked for the winter. There is alot to be >said about paying for indoor heated storage. She turned over for about 20 >seconds then fired right up. > >Well, I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got some riding to do!!!!! > >bye for now.... > >fsl :-) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Keyvan Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 e-mail: pastry@stanford.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:12:06 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: 1990 Red PC For Sale At 13:51 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >For Sale: > 1990 Pacific Coast - Candy Apple Red ... >Large Rear Shock was Replaced 14,000 miles ago... Huh??? Might this be the rare PC800 LTD, with exclusive MonoShock rear suspension? ;-) Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:19:49 -0700 "PC800: Biker News (Reuters)" (Apr 8, 10:40am) To: pclist Subject: Re: PC800: Biker News (Reuters) Ya know....you have to wonder how that many people end up with so much time on their hands that they actually have the luxury of taking the time to be sociopaths. Oh well...they're in jail and I still have work to do. cheers, Ramin -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:21:12 -0700 "Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state" (Apr 8, 11:13am) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state On Apr 8, 11:13am, Erin Keyvan wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: list of PC800 folks by state > Francois, > > A big wet raspberry in your general direction! (of course it would have to > be wet because we're all a little soggy here in El Nino stricken > California. ) > > Erin Yeah! What she said!!! ;-) Ramin -- -To Live is to Risk-----Entil-Zha- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:415-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:42:08 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Sam L. Hutchison " Subject: PC800: dimensions Offhand, does anyone have the max width dimensions of the PC? I guess that would really mean the rear-end width. I need to know if one will fit into by carport alongside the car, of course. Sam Hutchison Ruston LA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:01:02 -0400 From: "Richard A. Schuler" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 1990 Red PC For Sale Juan, Take a close look at your shocks. They are Not the same. The one on the left has a large heavy spring with the pre-load adjuster on it. The right shock has a smaller spring and no pre-load. As a result I call the left shock the "large one". :-) Radar Juan A. Goula wrote: > At 13:51 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote: > >For Sale: > > 1990 Pacific Coast - Candy Apple Red ... > > >Large Rear Shock was Replaced 14,000 miles ago... > > Huh??? Might this be the rare PC800 LTD, with exclusive MonoShock rear > suspension? > ;-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:04:28 -0400 From: radrider To: kaismo@worldnet.att.net CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! My last six motorcycles were BMW's. I think Honda parts are cheap! Stan Amero 97 PC and loving it! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:15:24 -0400 From: radrider To: "Sam L. Hutchison " CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions According to the owners manual it is 32.3 inches Stan Amero 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:11:08 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions At 14:42 4/8/98 GMT, Sam Hutch-i-son wrote: >Offhand, does anyone have the max width dimensions of the PC? >I guess that would really mean the rear-end width. I need to know >if one will fit into by carport alongside the car, of course. Maximum width is at the mirrors. Thankfully, they pop off and go back on with relative ease. :-) Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:15:24 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: 1990 Red PC For Sale At 16:01 4/8/98 -0400, Radar wrote: >Juan, > Take a close look at your shocks. They are Not the same. The one on the >left has a large heavy spring with the pre-load adjuster on it. The right shock has a >smaller spring and no pre-load. As a result I call the left shock the "large one". :-) Hi Richard. Yep, I am well aware that the springs and shocks are different. Couldn't resist though. Must be spring fever. BTW, why did you need a new shock? What were the symptoms? Thanks. Juan Inside every small problem is a big one trying to get government funding. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions To: "Sam L. Hutchison " Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Yeah, but you need to lean it over to get off and you need a place to put your leg when you dismount, too. Just leave the car out in the rain. ;) John ---radrider wrote: > > According to the owners manual it is 32.3 inches > > Stan Amero > 97 PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:46:22 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: "Richard A. Schuler" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 1990 Red PC For Sale Richard A. Schuler wrote: > For Sale: > 1990 Pacific Coast - Candy Apple Red - Garage Kept - Meticulously > Maintained - Never been down - Honda Line Factory AM/FM Stereo - I'll see your AM/FM Stereo and raise you a CD-Changer and Tenzo running lights!! :)) (I'm selling mine for $4,000) Actually, we're at opposite ends of the country so I'm sure there's no contest, but there "sure-do-seem-to-be" a lot of PC's for sale these days!! Take care, Phil -- ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:23:00 +0000 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Tall Windshields Hey Guys, I did some calling around today about the Hondaline tall windshields. I called the local (Atlanta) dealers and they wanted from $236 to $260. I then called some of the ads in Cycle World and found two places that would order one for $174. I think I am going to order one from Waynesville (NC). Some of these places charge no shipping for orders over $100. It certainly makes a difference to shop around. I wonder why there is no one in Atlanta willing to discount Honda parts -- particularly since the Honda warehouse is here! Pat 96 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:40:00 -0700 From: Bob Anundson To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! radrider wrote: > > My last six motorcycles were BMW's. I think Honda parts are cheap! > > Stan Amero > 97 PC and loving it! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. I owned a BMW (K75) prior and have been quite surprised at how expensive Honda parts are. The oil filter is about the same but the air filter was much cheaper on the K. I haven't bought tires but I suspect I will have to pay dealer prices because they are an odd ball size. Regards, Bob Anundson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: RE: PC Probs Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:32:55 -0400 Hello PC'ers...I wish I understood my PC computer as much as my PC800. = I'm needing some of you cybergearheads out there to boost me on this = internet stuff. I have Cybergate as my provider, a downloaded IE = Explorer 4.0 or so. A K6 AMD 200MMX PC w/ 64 MB ram and a 33 modem. I've had the phone Co check my line said it's fine. My icon says it's = (modem's) connected at 31.2kb and I bought Surf Express recently to soup = it (it hasn't changed anything). I've called local dealers in SE GA and = they tell me the servers are all slow. I heard on Cnet.com a program = called easymtu that can set the mtu's for optimum configuration. I down = loaded it but can't get it to run. (it comes zipped). I get my email ok = but if someone sends a 1mb photo I get dumped. Even getting to Yahoo = etc can take 20 min to load the page... I have called the store where I = bougth my computer and my provider Cybergate and have been stunned that = the techs won't seem to take me thru the various setups to see if I'm up = and running at the right speeds etc. So, Pc'ers let me see the errors = of my shinola-thon I'm in and how I can step up to some real speedy = aromas. Even call me at 912-261-8989. Thanks =20 dumped.  Even getting to Yahoo etc can take 20 min to load the=20 page...  I have called the store where I bougth my computer and my = provider=20 Cybergate and have been stunned that the techs won't seem to take me = thru the=20 various setups to see if I'm up and running at the right speeds = etc. =20 So,  Pc'ers let me see the errors of my shinola-thon I'm in and how = I can=20 step up to some real speedy aromas.   Even call me at=20 912-261-8989.  Thanks  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 18:41:50 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! >Sent: 4/8/98 3:07 PM >From: radrider@gis.net >To: Patkins Stan..I'm curious..why the switch to HOnda PC from the BMW? Paul > > >My last six motorcycles were BMW's. I think Honda parts are cheap! > >Stan Amero >97 PC and loving it! >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m17.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UXU23795; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:38:07 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: LRaeMiller@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:04:56 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Stealth Edging From: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:16:05 EDT LRaeMiller writes: (snip out Scot's original) > --------- >> > >You should have an increase of about 3" of wind protection - the wind >is not >really gone, but it is "broken up" so it doesn't roar as loud or beat >your >helmet as much. You buy either the edging or the tape, not both. The >edging >does fit on the original shield and looks pretty good, too. I just >put it on >the '90 original shield and it took 4 feet (we had a couple of inches >left >over). The '89 shield is some shorter, but be sure to measure >carefully. >They will talk with you when you call to make sure you are getting >what you >need. I think they will sell by the foot or 1/2 foot with a minimum >order of >3 feet. Mine arrived 2 days after I ordered and I am sure enjoying >it!! > >Lynda Miller >'90 PC, 10700 miles >-- Lynda-- Do you order directly from Saeng? I'm considering getting the edging for my '90 too. Exactly four feet, you say? Do I want any extra for fitting spoilage, etc.? Thanks. Stan B. "Miss Ruby" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA09464 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:10:50 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: oil filters-think twice! Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:04:37 -0400 The Metzler M2s are still available aftermarket for the PC but according to the order desk at MAW, Dunlop has discontinued general availability of the K177 in the 120/80x17 and 140/80x15 sizes. Dunlop has not discontinued the K177; they are still generally available for the Gold Wing but not the PC. The K177s are still available for the PC thru Honda dealerships (for now). I've seem at least one ad for K555s in the PC sizes - my advice is don't go there. I suspect it's just a matter of time before Dunlop stops making tires for the PC altogether and the only choice will be the Metzlers. BTW, Honda list for the rear K177 is about $140 - I bought one last fall - at least the dealer mounted and balanced it for free. 15K miles would be a VERY long life for the tire ... sort of makes auto tires look like a bargin, huh? Unfortunately the PC's body work makes it highly unlikely that a 70 or 90 series tire with the proper load rating would fit (regardless of how it would handle). Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bob Anundson [SMTP:boba@teleport.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 6:40 PM To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! radrider wrote: > > My last six motorcycles were BMW's. I think Honda parts are cheap! > > Stan Amero > 97 PC and loving it! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. I owned a BMW (K75) prior and have been quite surprised at how expensive Honda parts are. The oil filter is about the same but the air filter was much cheaper on the K. I haven't bought tires but I suspect I will have to pay dealer prices because they are an odd ball size. Regards, Bob Anundson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA09449 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:10:43 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Biker News (Reuters) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:42:27 -0400 Yup, next thing we know thsse darn law enforcement agencies will be targeting the notorious Pagan PC Motorcycle Club for possesion of a concealed motorcycle. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Erin Keyvan [SMTP:pastry@leland.Stanford.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:04 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Biker News (Reuters) Alright!! Now they've gone too far!! Not only are they giving bikers a bad name, but they're doing an injustice to pagans far and wide. What's next? One can only speculate.... ;^) Erin (was that outloud?) Keyvan in Mountain View, CA >Tuesday April 7 10:41 PM EDT > >33 Charged in Long Island Biker Roundup > >UNIONDALE, N.Y. (Reuters) - Thirty members of a national motorcycle >gang were arrested Tuesday on a host of charges >ranging from conspiracy to commit murder to extortion, arson and >weapons charges, officials said. > >Federal charges were filed against 33 members and associates of the >Pagan Outlaw Motorcycle Club, a national organization >with four Long Island chapters that was the focus of the joint law >enforcement effort, the U.S. Attorney's office said. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Keyvan Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 e-mail: pastry@stanford.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA09446 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:10:40 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: MSF, crashing Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:30:49 -0400 I second that emotion. Last fall I took the riders course with my wife and son. They were both novices rider but I've riding for pretty close to 40 years. We all learned from the course and like Paul, I really wish there had been something like this when I began riding on the street in 1958. I even talked my teenage daughter (who doesn't really intend to ride a motorcycle) and her boyfriend (who does intend to ride) into taking the course next month. I believe the $75 is a good investment in her defensive driving skills even if she never rides a bike again after completing the course. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paul B. Atkins [SMTP:patkins@mari.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 8:11 AM To: ChuckQdini@aol.com; pc 800 list Subject: PC800: MSF, crashing Regarding MSF courses...I am amazed at the reaction of friends who ride when I suggest taking the course (I took the beginning course last summer, after a 20 year break from riding..and am signed up for the experienced course in May)..most don't react or minimize the effectiveness of such a course...Looking back, I wish there was such a thing when I began riding in college! Still encouraging others to take the course, Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA09456 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:10:46 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: dimensions Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:44:53 -0400 the mirrors will not fit thru a standard 32" door the trunk will Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Sam L. Hutchison [SMTP:samh@bayou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:42 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: dimensions Offhand, does anyone have the max width dimensions of the PC? I guess that would really mean the rear-end width. I need to know if one will fit into by carport alongside the car, of course. Sam Hutchison Ruston LA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA26397 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:30:51 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:30:51 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: Welcome to Bruce Bednarski Dear Gang, Well, another chapter in the life of my PC is about to come to a close. After posting my 89 PC on the Online Cycle Trader I got a call and e-mail from Bruce Bednarski of Dunwoody who was interested in the PC. Bruce came over last Thursday night and we spent a couple of hours talking about the PC and he took it on a little test spin. After a couple of days we agreed on the selling price of $3600 and Bruce is coming Saturday morning to pick up the new addition to his family. It will sadden me to see the Pearl Girl ride off, but I know she will be in good hands. Bruce has done a lot of sport and off-road biking in his earlier days, but football knees are beginning to catch up and he is looking for a bike that will handle well for some short touring but still be fun in the North GA mountains. From what he told me, he looked at some other bikes, but he kept coming back to the PC. I told Bruce about the list as a great way to research the PC and he may have already contacted some of you regarding mods and your experiences with the stator. I have not seen him subscribe, but know that will come shortly. I know that you will welcome him and assist him in the same way that you have helped me over the last three years. Like the father who can't really accept that his children have really gone off, I would like to stay around and in touch. Two of my most pleasurable experiences over the last year occured through this list. I met Roger and Carol Prince when they rode 1200 miles to start their riding season last Spring when they came down to Helen GA for the GA HSTA rally. In the fall, I visited San Diego on business and stayed the weekend so I could ride passenger on Richard Hardy's PC touring southern California (when it was dry) and then joining Richard in meeting Phil Lewis and Johan Lai and their beautiful brides for a dinner. It never would have happened without this list. I have been enjoying the new Valkyrie that Debbie got me in January and it has more than 1600 miles already. But the PC will always be special. My older brother wants one and after he takes the MSF course in June, I told him I would be happy to help him find one. Until later . . . Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: 89 shield Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:43:30 -0500 Hi All, Does anyone who has replaced their OEM 89 shield with a Rifle or other aftermarket shield be interested in selling the unused item? I am interested in locating an 89 OEM shield for my 90. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:45:47 +0000 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: [Fwd: Re: PC800: Tall Windshields] --------------76293B207617 What do you think gang? I'm a bit of a purist. I don't like the two piece look of the Rifle. I have not seen one in person, but I have seen the tall Hondaline on a use bike at my dealer. I though it looked pretty good. The only negative I have heard of is the dash melting thing. Do the new ones still do that? I'm 6' 2" and long waisted, so I really want a taller windshield. I'm not in a rush and I want to get the right one for me the first time. I also don't think I would like the edging stuff. Anxious in Atlanta, Pat McNew 96 PC800 380 (s)miles --------------76293B207617 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:36:25 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pmcnew@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: PC800: Tall Windshields you might want to stay away from the Hondaline Tall windsheild. Many of us on the PC list have been less than satisfied. The rest of us have Rifle Windshields as our replacement. Much wider and better protection. www.rifle.com check out the photos on my web site below... -- Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog www.halcyon.com/dkgross AOL Inst.Msg. 'dkgross' --------------76293B207617-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John J. Scalisi" To: "Karen and Tom" Cc: "PC800 Mail List" Subject: Re: PC800: Drafty Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:01:52 -0400 You don't need to spend a lot of money. If it's 32 degrees or above I ride to work at 7am. $10 pair of jogging pants large enough to fit over your street clothes eliminates the draft. They have a zipper in the lower leg so you can get them on and off over boots and are elastic around the ankle. Walmart usually has them for about $10. In the spring they have unlined pairs and in the fall they carry lined ones which are a litttle warmer. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Karen and Tom To: pacific coast owners group Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:42 PM Subject: PC800: Drafty >After another cool ride today(35 degrees at the start) I was wondering if >anyone had ever considered any aerodynamic to the body work to eliminate the >"draft up the pant leg syndrome. Or perhaps I'm the only one too cheap to >buy a riding suit!? > >Tom Boynton >89PC > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:08:36 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: Jim Randall Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: MSF, crashing On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:30:49PM -0400, Jim Randall wrote: -> -> I second that emotion. Last fall I took the riders course with my -> wife and son. They were both novices rider but I've riding for pretty -> close to 40 years. We all learned from the course and like Paul, -> I really wish there had been something like this when I began -> riding on the street in 1958. I even talked my teenage daughter (who -> doesn't really intend to ride a motorcycle) and her boyfriend (who -> does intend to ride) into taking the course next month. I believe the -> $75 is a good investment in her defensive driving skills even if she -> never rides a bike again after completing the course. I took the course last year... and although it was incredibly hot, it was worth the time. I would never ever consider riding a bike without that course. I read somewhere that a large percentage of motorcycle accidents involve self-taught riders... riders with no formal training. Here in the Raleigh (North Carolina) area... the RSS course cost $35 last year... this year it is $100. If you join the HRCA (Honda Rider's Club of America), they will reimburse you up to $75 a year for taking MSF sponsored motorcycle courses, and the membership I believe is $40 a year. I am scheduled to take the ERC course and the end of the month, and I believe that cost $50. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Comparisons Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:42:37 -0500 Hey Everyone - Got to ride a R1100RT last saturday. It was an interesting ride. I was really looking forward to trying out a bike with about twice the horsepower of the PC. I was disappointed. The accelleration seemed comprable to my PC! Maybe I was just not being very objective about the matter, so I did some research. See below. Parameter PC80089 PC80097 ST1100 R1100RT Concours ¼ mile time 14.05 14.36 12.47 12.75 12.10 ¼ mile speed 90.88 84.10 107.90 103.75 108.06 0-60 time 5.1 6.09 4.38 4.52 3.85 Top speed 117 108 132 125 126 60 – 0 distance 132' 115' 120' 129' 126' Mpg 43.2 49.3 37.9 37.5 34.9 Tank gallons 4.2 - 7.4 6.6 7.5 Range 181 207 281 248 262 Hp 51.1 45.6 88.3 79.3 88.4 Torque 43.0 41.0 70.9 65.6 63.3 Transmission 5 speed - 5 speed 5 speed 6 speed Drive Shaft - Shaft Shaft Shaft Wheel base 61.2" - 61.2" 62.8" 61.0" Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 - 27.5/4.0 27.2/4.8 28.5/4.8 Seat height 30.1 - 31.5 30.8 – 32.3 32.0 Ground clear 5.5 - 5.7 6.0 5.1 Weight 635# 620# 726# 622# 618# Engine V Twin - V Four Opposed twin In line 4 Approx. Cost 6,500 7,500 13,999 15,999 9,299 Source CW MCN MCN MCN MCN Kind of hard to feel a 1 to 2 second differnce over 12 seconds. Did like the electric adjustable windshield though. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:56:10 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "Sam L. Hutchison " CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions Let me know when and where and I'll see if we can wedge mine in. Steve Wilson RUSTON LA. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JLicari721 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:09:41 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: GIVI Does anyone have any experinence(s) with the GIVI top trunk for the PC. How does it mount...how does it work...what's it cost...etc. Thanx in advance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:17:45 EDT To: radrider@gis.net, kaismo@worldnet.att.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Comparison I would be interested on how the PC compares to your previous BMWs? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:36:47 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Blue Diamond Installed It was easy with bike on the center stand, and the wheel full left. I haven't ridden except around the block twice tonight and I can say "IT IS BLUE". There is no doubt that this will get you noticed. The headlight color as viewed from a distance changes with the angle. Head on it is blindingly blue/white. Any where else it is orange/yellow with a blue tint all around it. Very strange, bright and noticeable. The blue/white/orange/yellow light combined with the yellowish color of my Pilot running lights is carnival in appearance. Let someone say they didn't see me now. If they are within a mile of me I will see the well lit blue/whites of their eyes and know they lied. I went with the 100/55's because the tint on them was a little darker than on the 100/80's. Now that they are in I can see I need to adjust the aim down a bit as someone posted earlier. I hope no airplane pilots mistake my high beams for an airport beacon in the mean time! The Pilot's (running lights) do a good job of filling in the gap between the bike and where the headlight finally lights the road but a little tweaking and I will be seeing them as well as I am being seen. My dealer has more if you want to try them. About $23 for the 100/55's and $26 for the 100/80's. I think that includes shipping. Call McKinney's at 318-255-6777 between 8 and 5:30 CST. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:34:40 -0400 To: JLicari721 , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI At 12:09 AM -0400 4/9/98, JLicari721 wrote: >Does anyone have any experinence(s) with the GIVI top trunk for the PC. > Yes >How does it mount...how does it work...what's it cost...etc. > On a rack........works well......not sure.... Hi there JLicari721 ! That's quite the name. Should I just call you J for short? I have a Givi on my 95. I really like it. It has the optional back rest on it which my wife really likes. The box itself is very well made, and completely waterproof. It attaches to the rack in a matter of seconds, and comes off just as easily with a key. I have a picture of it at http://www.magmacom.com/~fsl/pc800/matilda.html , if you want to see what it looks like installed. Also, if you ever change bikes, the Givi has a standard mounting system. You would need to purchase a rack for the new bike, but the box will fit. Overall I would recommend the Givi. Hope this helps. fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:52:30 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: JLicari721 CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI Best $250/300 you could spend if my opinion counts. High quality and look great. I got the one with the brake light built in. Great eye catcher for your backside. Most PC's have the 50 liter installed but I went with the 46 because I thought the rounded edges match the look of the PC better. It still holds 2 full size helmets. The rack without the bag is stylish and functional as well. The bag opens and detaches with a single combined latch system and is quick and easy to install and remove. Initial installation not included. It takes a little work to installing the screws through the brackets, the saddle grips and into the frame under the seat. It is easier if you have the bike on the center stand and kneel with all your weight on one knee directly over the bolt being installed. Most definitely worth the trouble. Here is the Givi site if you need it. GiVi - English

Steve Wilson
Ruston LA.
95 PC800
  -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: PC800: Tall Windshields] Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:40:13 +0200 I'm about 6.23 feet tall (don't know how many inches that is)and I like the hondaline windshield. On the highway I can, with relative ease, look through the screen. This is very nice if you want to listen to your radio, but it's also quiet enough not to wear earplugs anymore, except maybe with stormy winds. On the other side it's low enough to look over it with heavy rain. In that case I close my helmet visor, for the rest of the time I keep it open (all the bugs hit the screen first). Didn't try the rifle windshield, but I agree with you that the Hondaline looks better. Dunno if they fixed the melting problem (don't think so). Emile Nossin Flying Dutchman,' 90 PC800 Santpoort, Holland Emile@Bikers.com ---------- > Van: Pat McNew > Aan: Honda Pacific Coast Group > Onderwerp: [Fwd: Re: PC800: Tall Windshields] > Datum: woensdag 8 april 1998 22:45 > > What do you think gang? > > I'm a bit of a purist. I don't like the two piece look of the Rifle. I > have not seen one in person, but I have seen the tall Hondaline on a use > bike at my dealer. I though it looked pretty good. The only negative I > have heard of is the dash melting thing. Do the new ones still do that? > > I'm 6' 2" and long waisted, so I really want a taller windshield. I'm > not in a rush and I want to get the right one for me the first time. I > also don't think I would like the edging stuff. > > Anxious in Atlanta, > > Pat McNew > 96 PC800 380 (s)miles > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 07:16:59 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: JLicari721 , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI Givi also has a home page givi.com or something... FWIW B Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > At 12:09 AM -0400 4/9/98, JLicari721 wrote: > >Does anyone have any experinence(s) with the GIVI top trunk for the PC. > > > > Yes > > >How does it mount...how does it work...what's it cost...etc. > > > > On a rack........works well......not sure.... > > Hi there JLicari721 ! That's quite the name. Should I just call you J for > short? > > I have a Givi on my 95. I really like it. It has the optional back rest on > it which my wife really likes. The box itself is very well made, and > completely waterproof. It attaches to the rack in a matter of seconds, and > comes off just as easily with a key. I have a picture of it at > http://www.magmacom.com/~fsl/pc800/matilda.html , if you want to see what > it looks like installed. Also, if you ever change bikes, the Givi has a > standard mounting system. You would need to purchase a rack for the new > bike, but the box will fit. > > Overall I would recommend the Givi. > > Hope this helps. > > fsl :-) > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bill McKenna, Augusta Maine, USA The worst Wintah I evah spent was a springtime in Maine... http://www.mint.net/~bmckenna/NERFK.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:33:07 -0400 From: radrider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions Popping off the mirrors every time it was parked in the garage doesn't seem very practical. Stan Amero 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:38:12 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: dimensions In a message dated 98-04-08 15:47:17 EDT, you write: << Offhand, does anyone have the max width dimensions of the PC?>> The book says 32.3 inches; it doesn't specify where, but my guess is that it's at the mirrors. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:40:56 -0400 From: radrider To: "Paul B. Atkins" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! The high cost of ownership (purchase and maintenance) wasn't worth it when they stopped producing the two valve motor. I tried to make myself like the four valve but I couldn't. Stan Amero 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bert.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA01683; Thu, 09 Apr 1998 05:23:50 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Comparisons (R1100RT vs. PC800) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:26:03 -0700 Concerning the PC800 vs. the R100RT, I think the acceleration was what = I noticed the most. When pulling onto the freeway into traffic from a complete stop, the difference between 6.09 seconds and 4.52 seconds is *very* significant. (I do this fairly often because I try to always stop and let stranded motorists use my cell phone.) Since I do most = of my accelerating in this range (0-60), I really notice the difference between the two bikes. I put almost 15,000 miles on the '96 PC in a years time, and I have over 2000 on the RT in the last 1.5 of months. The most disappointing aspect of the PC was the lack of acceleration that I expected from an 800 cubic inch engine. I had been riding a CM450E prior to the PC. The 450cc actually felt faster to me than the PC800. It had six gears, and the lower 1st and 2nd may have accounted for this. When I crank the throttle on the RT hard, I feel like I = just got shot out of a gun. I never experienced that on the PC. The PC's power was steady and constant, but it never felt like a sporty quick bike to me. (And after having said that, I really don't care about a sporty quick bike except in the one instance described above.) The = PC's forte is steady smooth consistent power. It does that very well. And the PC has no lack of power up a very steep hill two up. It's power just isn't aimed towards acceleration. It has a broad flat powerband rather than a peaked powerband that is more common. The quarter mile speed isn't as significant for motorcycles because = most of them are getting close to their top speed within a quarter mile. This tends to minimize the differences. Most of us don't do much accelerating at speeds above 80, but quite a bit of acceleration at speeds starting from less than 10 miles per hour. Therefore, the 0-60 times are much more significant than the quarter mile times. If you want a sport tourer, buy the Concours. It is very sporty. It is a Ninja on steroids. If you want to have a practical motorcycle that you can use for grocery shopping and a daily commute, buy the PC. If ABS and some extra amenities matter, get the ST1100 or the R1100RT. I found the ST1100 a little to large for my body in reach, width, and height. If you really want an ultra cool, fast bike, and you don't mind poor gas mileage, get a Valkyrie and ride in high style. Todd Vierheller 82 CM450E (Retired after ~65,000 miles of faithful service) '96 Pacific Coast (Killed in the line of duty) '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" Seattle, WA > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael S. Brown [SMTP:ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 20:43 > To: PC800 > Subject: PC800: Comparisons >=20 > Hey Everyone -=20 >=20 > Got to ride a R1100RT last saturday. It was an interesting ride. I > was > really looking forward to trying out a bike with about twice the > horsepower > of the PC. I was disappointed. The accelleration seemed comprable = to > my > PC! Maybe I was just not being very objective about the matter, so I > did > some research. See below. >=20 > Parameter PC80089 PC80097 ST1100 R1100RT Concours=09 > =BC mile time 14.05 14.36 12.47 12.75 12.10=09 > =BC mile speed 90.88 84.10 107.90 103.75 108.06=09 > 0-60 time 5.1 6.09 4.38 4.52 > 3.85=09 > Top speed 117 108 132 125 126=09 > 60 - 0 distance 132' 115' 120' 129' > 126'=09 > Mpg 43.2 49.3 37.9 37.5 34.9=09 > Tank gallons 4.2 - 7.4 6.6 7.5=09 > Range 181 207 281 248 262=09 > Hp 51.1 45.6 88.3 79.3 88.4=09 > Torque 43.0 41.0 70.9 65.6 > 63.3=09 > Transmission 5 speed - 5 speed 5 speed 6 speed=09 > Drive Shaft - Shaft Shaft Shaft=09 > Wheel base 61.2" - 61.2" 62.8" 61.0"=09 > Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 - 27.5/4.0 27.2/4.8 > 28.5/4.8=09 > Seat height 30.1 - 31.5 30.8 - 32.3 32.0=09 > Ground clear 5.5 - 5.7 6.0 5.1=09 > Weight 635# 620# 726# 622# > 618#=09 > Engine V Twin - V Four Opposed twin > In line 4=09 > Approx. Cost 6,500 7,500 13,999 15,999 9,299=09 > Source CW MCN MCN MCN > MCN >=20 > Kind of hard to feel a 1 to 2 second differnce over 12 seconds. Did > like > the electric adjustable windshield though. >=20 > Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN"=09 >=20 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:50:16 -0700 From: Bob Anundson To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons What happen to the engine that it lost 10% power and a second in 0 to 60 between '89 and '97. Are you comparing a California model to the non California model? Michael S. Brown wrote: > > Hey Everyone - > > Got to ride a R1100RT last saturday. It was an interesting ride. I > was > really looking forward to trying out a bike with about twice the > horsepower > of the PC. I was disappointed. The accelleration seemed comprable to > my > PC! Maybe I was just not being very objective about the matter, so I > did > some research. See below. > > Parameter PC80089 PC80097 ST1100 R1100RT Concours > ¼ mile time 14.05 14.36 12.47 12.75 12.10 > ¼ mile speed 90.88 84.10 107.90 103.75 108.06 > 0-60 time 5.1 6.09 4.38 4.52 > 3.85 > Top speed 117 108 132 125 126 > 60 – 0 distance 132' 115' 120' 129' 126' > Mpg 43.2 49.3 37.9 37.5 34.9 > Tank gallons 4.2 - 7.4 6.6 7.5 > Range 181 207 281 248 262 > Hp 51.1 45.6 88.3 79.3 88.4 > Torque 43.0 41.0 70.9 65.6 63.3 > Transmission 5 speed - 5 speed 5 speed 6 > speed > Drive Shaft - Shaft Shaft Shaft > Wheel base 61.2" - 61.2" 62.8" 61.0" > Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 - 27.5/4.0 > 27.2/4.8 28.5/4.8 > Seat height 30.1 - 31.5 30.8 – 32.3 32.0 > Ground clear 5.5 - 5.7 6.0 5.1 > Weight 635# 620# 726# 622# 618# > Engine V Twin - V Four Opposed twin In > line 4 > Approx. Cost 6,500 7,500 13,999 15,999 9,299 > Source CW MCN MCN MCN MCN > > Kind of hard to feel a 1 to 2 second differnce over 12 seconds. Did > like > the electric adjustable windshield though. > > Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:57:41 -0700 From: Bob Anundson To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: oil filters-think twice! The tire situation is probably the worst aspect of owning a PC. My OEM tires on my K were Metzlers and I got very poor mileage out of them. They also had the reputation of being very expensive and being out of stock frequently. The K177s are still mentioned on the Dunlop site but I couldn't get a response from them as whether they had been discontinued. Regards, Bob Jim Randall wrote: > > The Metzler M2s are still available aftermarket for the PC but > according > to the order desk at MAW, Dunlop has discontinued general availability > of the K177 in the 120/80x17 and 140/80x15 sizes. Dunlop has not > discontinued the K177; they are still generally available for the Gold > Wing but not the PC. The K177s are still available for the PC thru > Honda dealerships (for now). I've seem at least one ad for K555s in > the > PC sizes - my advice is don't go there. I suspect it's just a matter > of time > before Dunlop stops making tires for the PC altogether and the only > choice will be the Metzlers. BTW, Honda list for the rear K177 is > about > $140 - I bought one last fall - at least the dealer mounted and > balanced it > for free. 15K miles would be a VERY long life for the tire ... sort of > makes > auto tires look like a bargin, huh? Unfortunately the PC's body work > makes it highly unlikely that a 70 or 90 series tire with the proper > load > rating would fit (regardless of how it would handle). > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Anundson [SMTP:boba@teleport.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 6:40 PM > To: PC800 > Subject: Re: PC800: oil filters-think twice! > > radrider wrote: > > > > My last six motorcycles were BMW's. I think Honda parts are cheap! > > > > Stan Amero > > 97 PC and loving it! > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > of > > a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > I owned a BMW (K75) prior and have been quite surprised at how > expensive > Honda parts are. The oil filter is about the same but the air filter > was > much cheaper on the K. I haven't bought tires but I suspect I will > have > to pay dealer prices because they are an odd ball size. > > Regards, > Bob Anundson > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:59:39 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: boba@teleport.com CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons That's real possible. The MCN offices are located in California. Eric Bob Anundson wrote: > What happen to the engine that it lost 10% power and a second in 0 to 60 > between '89 and '97. Are you comparing a California model to the non > California model? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:48:02 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Comparisons At 08:50 4/9/98 -0700, Bob Anundson wrote: >What happen to the engine that it lost 10% power and a second in 0 to 60 >between '89 and '97. Are you comparing a California model to the non >California model? I thought the same thing until I saw the sources for the data. The '89 numbers came from Cycle World, reknown sport bike jockeys. The '97 from MCN, who claim their tests reflect more "real world" situations. So where CW might have prepped the PC for 1/4 mile dragstrip times (crank up the preload to max, lower the rear tire pressure, heat up the tire by doing a burnout) MCN probably did none of these things. Then again, it just might account for normal differences in the production line. I also considered the aerodynamic differences between the model years, but find hard to believe that the rotor covers would make that much of a difference in terminal speed, top speed (ok, maybe this one) and fuel consumption. As far as horsepower, different dynos will give very different readings, as well as different weather conditions (which I believe magazines are now correcting figures to account for that). In other words, too many variables for an n=2 sample to get significant results. I am curious about the tires used, and if that had anything to do with the very different stopping distances. I can almost bet the '89 had K555s and the '97 K177s, but it is just speculation. Good subject for discussion overall :-) Juan Don't be afraid of death so much as an inadequate life. -Bertolt Brecht --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:58:58 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Groaner? .com> Hey, I made a funny, and I didn't even try! :-) At 15:26 4/8/98 -0700, todd.vierheller wrote: >A real groaner! > >> At 16:01 4/8/98 -0400, Radar wrote: >> >Juan, >> > Take a close look at your shocks. >> >> Hi Richard. Yep, I am well aware that the springs and shocks are >> different. >> Couldn't resist though. Must be spring fever [GROAN!]. BTW, why did >> you need a new shock? What were the symptoms? >> Thanks. >> >> Juan Don't be afraid of death so much as an inadequate life. -Bertolt Brecht --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Doylefish Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:24:53 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Pacific Coast Associations Hi Guys, Are there any clubs or organizations formed and operating just for the Pacific Coast? Harley,GoldWing's,Virago etc. all have them. Also I sure wish some firm would come up with a CB/Radio set up that would use the PC's speaker housings but it seems to be just a pipe dream. Have a great and safe riding season. Doyle C. Frazier Lebanon, Oregon 95 pc800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Juan A. Goula'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Comparisons Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:08:13 -0400 > -----Original Message----- > From: Juan A. Goula [SMTP:jgoula@ims.uaf.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 1:48 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Comparisons > > At 08:50 4/9/98 -0700, Bob Anundson wrote: > >What happen to the engine that it lost 10% power and a second in 0 to > 60 > >between '89 and '97. Are you comparing a California model to the non > >California model? > > I thought the same thing until I saw the sources for the data. The > '89 > numbers came from Cycle World, reknown sport bike jockeys. The '97 > from > MCN, who claim their tests reflect more "real world" situations. So > where > CW might have prepped the PC for 1/4 mile dragstrip times (crank up > the > preload to max, lower the rear tire pressure, heat up the tire by > doing a > burnout) MCN probably did none of these things. Then again, it just > might > account for normal differences in the production line. I also > considered > the aerodynamic differences between the model years, but find hard to > believe that the rotor covers would make that much of a > more dynamic than later years. Just a thought. I thought all years came from the factory with K555s. Apparently not. Roger but find hard to believe that the rotor covers would make that much of a difference in terminal speed, top speed (ok, maybe this one) and fuel consumption. As far as horsepower, different dynos will give very different readings, as well as different weather conditions (which I believe magazines are now correcting figures to account for that). In other words, too many variables for an n=2 sample to get significant results. I am curious about the tires used, and if that had anything to do with the very different stopping distances. I can almost bet the '89 had K555s and the '97 K177s, but it is just speculation. Good subject for discussion overall :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FERNDO Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:14:26 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 1995 Black for Sale Black PC800 for Sale with 10,450 miles in Beautiful Virginia. * Excellent Shape Always Garaged Has Seen Rain 5 or 6 times. * Never Dropped * Tall Hondaline Shield * Passenger Backrest * Priorty Light System (RearFlashing Breaks, and All Around Driving Lights) * Shop Manual * All original Tools and Operating Manual * Black Nose Guard * Scheduled Maintenance Done on Time Total $5,200 OBO FERNDO@AOL.COM or Pager (703) 219-7628 Picture Upon Request I Also have a Chatterbox Intercom System Driver and Pasenger Full Face Never Used, With a "ONE OF A KIND POWER LEAD". It Usually Runs on a Recharged Battery. Total $145.00 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 13:30:53 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Offer & Request Offer: Today I received a spare JC Whitney catalog, whic I will mail to the first person who requests it. Request: Can someone send me Mike Traynor's mailing address, and the name of his wife? I have something I need to mail to them. Thanks! Juan Don't be afraid of death so much as an inadequate life. -Bertolt Brecht --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:07:37 -0400 From: radrider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons (R1100RT vs. PC800) The BMW cost more than twice what the Pacific Coast costs. I'd call that *very* significant. Stan Amero 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bert.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA03799; Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:11:58 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: radrider@gis.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Comparisons (R1100RT vs. PC800) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:14:08 -0700 Actually it is closer to three times as much with the (absolutely worthless radio and other options)! Todd Vierheller '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" > -----Original Message----- > From: radrider [SMTP:radrider@gis.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 15:08 > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons (R1100RT vs. PC800) > > The BMW cost more than twice what the Pacific Coast costs. I'd call > that *very* significant. > > Stan Amero > 97 PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:22:35 -0400 From: radrider To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons (R1100RT vs. PC800) Makes it an even more expensive two seconds! Stan Amero 97 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Emile Nossin" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Diamond Installed Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:34:50 +0200 > bit as someone posted earlier. I hope no airplane pilots mistake my high > beams for an airport beacon in the mean time! The Pilot's (running > lights) do a good job of filling in the gap between the bike and where > the headlight finally lights the road but a little tweaking and I will > be seeing them as well as I am being seen. Just a flashing red beacon now and people start thinking you're the airplane. But I think most PC800 Coastliner owners are allready used now to the "follow me" trucks trying to lure us to the nearest gate. Emile Nossin Flying Dutchman,' 90 PC800 Santpoort, Holland Emile@Bikers.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:11:47 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock Well, I got my 12volt clock/voltmeter from JC Whitney. I figured I would install it for the weekend. I decided to mount in vertically just above the meter panel. IOW, this is the dash rim. The tupperware parts came off fairly easily as well as the drivers seat. I saw the infamous accessory plug and thought, "wow, this is going to be easy!" I hooked up the wires before running them permanently to make sure the clock worked. It did. Cool. I then ran the wires below the meter (instrument) panel and along the right side of the bike to the accessory plug. I had to solder the thin wires to some wire connectors that I picked up from Rat Shack. I got every thing hooked up and decided to try the clock one time before putting the tupperware back. The clock worked fine, I had 11.6v (engine off) and the back light displayed looked fine. I then turned off the ignition, waited a few seconds and turned it back on. The clock came back on but the time was reset to 12:00. Oh, oh! At first I thought my constant power wire came loose but it didn't. Then I thought maybe the accessory plug was bad, it wasn't. As a last resort I plugged both the switched and constant wires into the switched plug, left the key on, set the clock and removed just the switched wire. Nada. The device is obviously defective. So, I put the tupperware back on the bike and ordered another one from JC Whitney. I'll post some pictures once I get the new one installed. I do like the mounting position I chose and hopefully the next clock will work. The install should be much quicker now that I know exactly where I want to put the thing. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Karen and Tom" To: "pacific coast owners group" Subject: PC800: Still Drafty Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:04:12 -0400 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:40:33 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: Tom Ambrosio Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:11:47PM -0500, Tom Ambrosio wrote: -> Well, I got my 12volt clock/voltmeter from JC Whitney. I -> figured I would install it for the weekend. I decided to mount -> in vertically just above the meter panel. IOW, this is the dash -> rim. The tupperware parts came off fairly easily as well as the I was thinking about that too... Currently... I have it mounted right above the left speaker... which I don't really like because it doesn't have the right angle to be easily read. -> drivers seat. I saw the infamous accessory plug and thought, -> "wow, this is going to be easy!" Actually... it was fairly easy... -> I got every thing hooked up and decided to try the clock one -> time before putting the tupperware back. The clock worked fine, -> I had 11.6v (engine off) and the back light displayed looked -> fine. I then turned off the ignition, waited a few seconds and -> turned it back on. The clock came back on but the time was -> reset to 12:00. Oh, oh! Are you sure you wired it up correctly? The clock should NEVER go out... if it does, then you will lose the time. One wire is constant power, so it will always show the time and the volts, and that is what keeps the time correct.. The other wire supplies power to the backlight and the colored LEDs along the side... that is switched power. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:58:11 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Tom Ambrosio CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock Is there a picture available? Steve Wilson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Donald R. Hamilton" To: "pc800 list" Subject: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:17:09 -0400 hi folks... i posted a note a couple weeks ago requesting some general info about the pc...and the response was terrific. thank you all for your most kind and informative answers! i seem to be edging slowly but surely toward the purchase of a pc...probably one of the new '96's the dealers are unloading now. my primary interest is long distance touring...and the givi rack and topbox look like they are the way to go. my question is...where do you buy the givi stuff? order thru your dealer? or is there a better deal to be had thru mail order? are they difficult to install? or is it something the average driveway mechanic could manage? thanks for your help. i'm enjoying lurking... don... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:58:33 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: BernieK469 CC: radrider@gis.net, kaismo@worldnet.att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Comparison BernieK469 wrote: > > I would be interested on how the PC compares to your previous BMWs? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. If I may I'd like to comment on this subject. I had a BMW K100RT at the same time as my PC. The BMW was to tall, vibrated the pegs to the annoying stage, and rode like a brick. It was one of only two motorcycles that my wife absolutely disliked to the point of saying this thing has got to go. I will say that it had gobs of power> She and I both still like the PC, even with a GL 1500 in the garage! Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChuckQdini Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:52:02 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gregg DesElms stobe idea Hello the list: Sorry that I'm posting this private message to the list but trying to send this keeps getting the "unknown user" message. This is in reference to an old archive post dealing with Gregg's idea of hooking up a strobe light inside the middle red tail-light lens for added safety. Sort of like a Priority Plus unit. Gregg: I really liked your idea of installing a strobe light in the "dead lens". I went to Radio Shack and only found a assembled strobe set up for home defense.It's 12 volts too. I figure that I can take it apart and rig it to my PC. Would you please send me instructions on how you rigged yours up? Also, did you make your own strobe circuit and put it in a projcet box or buy a "ready made" one? Basically, I'd like to borrow your idea, plans and installation for my bike. I fully agree with you the best idea is to leave the stock lights alone and add to them to increase safety. I saw a police bike yesterday with what looked like small red strobes on either side of his brake lights, really called attention when he hit the brakes! I'll hold off on this project until I can learn from your installation. Thanks in advance! Chuck Chiodini ChuckQdini@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:05:18 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: Tom Ambrosio CC: PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock Tom Ambrosio wrote: > I got every thing hooked up and decided to try the clock one > time before putting the tupperware back. The clock worked fine, > I had 11.6v (engine off) and the back light displayed looked > fine. I then turned off the ignition, waited a few seconds and > turned it back on. The clock came back on but the time was > reset to 12:00. Oh, oh! > Hi Tom! I agree with Dave, when you turn the key off, the clock should still be on. The only thing that should go off is the backlight. This is the case, unless the clock is designed with it's own internal battery to maintain the time even when no "time" is displayed. On my PC, I had several items that I needed to power, such as my voltmeter, and I decided to run a separate wire directly off the battery. It takes a little more wire, but this way I always had a separate fuse and power source for any items that I wanted to run hot, or, for whatever reason, didn't want to be attached to something else. Just a suggestion, Phil -- ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. * ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "BernieK469" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Comparison Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:26:09 -0500 Bernie > I would be interested on how the PC compares to your previous BMWs? I rode the R1100RT for about 20-30 minutes as the BMW dealer was gracious enough to let me take a demo ride. That is the full extent of my personal BMW ownership to date. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:29:06 -0500 Bob, > What happen to the engine that it lost 10% power and a second in 0 to 60 > between '89 and '97. Are you comparing a California model to the non > California model? It could be. I looked both reviews over again and no mention of 49 state or California model. But with that much disparity between the two reviews I included both. Figured it might prompt some "discussion". Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by nexus.idirect.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA17385; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:04:17 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:04:10 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: ChuckQdini CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Gregg DesElms stobe idea Hi to all; A small word of caution. Check with the _State/Province_ authorities on exactly what you want to do and get the response in writing. I had been checking on headlight modulators and the local Desk Sergeant phoned his superior officer for an opinion as to legality in Ontario. The Captain said over the speaker phone " arrest the suspect and charge him, then let the courts decide" . The Sergeant was embarrassed but suggested that I check with the local DOT office where I got a DEFINITE yes from one officer and a DEFINITE no from another. They suggested the DOT head office and I eventually got a ruling that if any equipment complies with US DOT standard 12 it is legal anywhere in North America. The concern that most 'officials' gave was that many "flashing" setups could duplicate emergency vehicle gear, and if everyone runs around looking like an ambulance going to an emergency, no one will notice. Just my $.02 and experiences. Hal MacDonald Ajax On. Canada ChuckQdini wrote: > > Hello the list: > Sorry that I'm posting this private message to the list but > trying to send this keeps getting the "unknown user" message. This is in > reference to an old archive post dealing with Gregg's idea of hooking up a > strobe light inside the middle red tail-light lens for added safety. Sort of > like a Priority Plus unit. > > Gregg: > I really liked your idea of installing a strobe light in the "dead > lens". I went to Radio Shack and only found a assembled strobe set up for > home defense.It's 12 volts too. I figure that I can take it apart and rig it > to my PC. Would you please send me instructions on how you rigged yours up? > Also, did you make your own strobe circuit and put it in a projcet box or buy > a "ready made" one? Basically, I'd like to borrow your idea, plans and > installation for my bike. I fully agree with you the best idea is to leave the > stock lights alone and add to them to increase safety. I saw a police bike > yesterday with what looked like small red strobes on either side of his brake > lights, really called attention when he hit the brakes! I'll hold off on this > project until I can learn from your installation. > Thanks in advance! > Chuck Chiodini > ChuckQdini@aol.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:53:34 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: pilewis1@concentric.net Cc: Tom Ambrosio , PC800 Group Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:05:18PM -0700, Phil Lewis wrote: -> -> I agree with Dave, when you turn the key off, the clock should still be -> on. The only thing that should go off is the backlight. This is the case, -> unless the clock is designed with it's own internal battery to maintain the -> time even when no "time" is displayed. On my PC, I had several items that This particular one doesn't have an internal battery. -> I needed to power, such as my voltmeter, and I decided to run a separate -> wire directly off the battery. It takes a little more wire, but this way I -> always had a separate fuse and power source for any items that I wanted to -> run hot, or, for whatever reason, didn't want to be attached to something -> else. One problem I had with it was.... I decided to add am ammeter also... which I did ok... but it interefered with the voltmeter/clock afterwards. The voltmeter will do either 12 or 24 volts. When you connect it, if it is initialized for 24v, (which it did a couple of times as I first installed it), I just removed power (disconnected the ground), and then it would reset itself for 12v. After I installed the ammeter, it would reset itself at random times. I knew it was set for 12v, and then I would go ride...and while I was riding, it would go back to 24v. I would disconnect the battery, (easiest and quickest method, because you don't have to take the seat off) and it would be reset to 12v again...after riding..back to 24v... pretty much making it useless as a voltmeter. So... I connected the constant power for the voltmeter/clock directly to the battery, and that resolved that problem. After making that change... I am very happy with it, except that because I am using the accessory plug for the switched power, and also for a couple of other things (like for a relay, and also for an amplifier), I am not sure how much power it is receiving... because it isn't all that bright... you can still see it at night, but it isn't all that bright. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Donald R. Hamilton'" , pc800 list Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:11:58 -0400 My suggestion, if you are serious about buying a leftover '96, is DO IT NOW. I'm not too sure how long they will last at the bargain price of $5999. (or less). Super buy. You can buy GiVi through a dealer or GiVi may reference you to a stocking dealer. I don't believe they sell direct any longer except at shows like Daytona. Quality product. Don't waste money on the Hondaline backrest. Don't buy the backrest pad until you are sure you need it. Don't wait too long. Then you will have to buy a $6500. '97 model. Roger > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald R. Hamilton [SMTP:vfrlvr@iwaynet.net] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 12:17 AM > To: pc800 list > Subject: PC800: newbie stuff... > > > hi folks... > > i posted a note a couple weeks ago requesting some general info about > the > pc...and the response was terrific. thank you all for your most kind > and > informative answers! > > i seem to be edging slowly but surely toward the purchase of a > pc...probably one of the new '96's the dealers are unloading now. > > my primary interest is long distance touring...and the givi rack and > topbox > look like they are the way to go. my question is...where do you buy > the > givi stuff? order thru your dealer? or is there a better deal to be > had > thru mail order? are they difficult to install? or is it something > the > average driveway mechanic could manage? > > thanks for your help. i'm enjoying lurking... > > don... > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 09:12:02 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... >Sent: 04/10/1998 7:17 >From: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com >To: Patkins > > >My suggestion, if you are serious about buying a leftover '96, is DO IT >NOW. I'm not too sure how long they will last at the bargain price of >$5999. (or less). Super buy. DITTO..having a great time with mine! Rapidly approaching the magic 600 miles number so that I can go over 4 k on the tach... >You can buy GiVi through a dealer or GiVi may reference you to a >stocking dealer. I don't believe they sell direct any longer except at >shows like Daytona. Quality product. Don't waste money on the >Hondaline backrest. Don't buy the backrest pad until you are sure you >need it. Why is that? I have been waiting to see if my wonderful significant other would feel more comfortable with it. She has not decided yet, but she is used to riding on the old CB 750 with a huge adjustable sissy bar and luggage rack combo.I would rather NOT add such thing to the PC.... Paul >Don't wait too long. Then you will have to buy a $6500. '97 model. > >Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:20:01 -0400 From: Jason To: pc 800 list Subject: Re: PC800: newbie stuff... If you're really interested, the Corbin seat has a great passanger backrest (with a pouch in it, even) it is bigger than the PC's and my SO indicated she'd be much more comfortable (ie: feel safer) with the Corbin. I currently have removed my corbin seat entirely, but I will probably put it back on in another few weeks. The seat has a much larger surface area both for the driver and the passenger. Jason Grant crazyapple@erols.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Paul B. Atkins'" , "'pc 800 list'" Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:16:37 -0400 In the case of my SO, when she sits in her normal comfortable position, her back naturally rests against the E50 Maxia. If it had the optional backpad, she would be uncomfortably forced forward. Since you have to add it I'd try it without the pad. Luckily when I bought mine the pads were out of stock. Roger significant other would feel more comfortable with it. She has not decided yet, but she is used to riding on the old CB 750 with a huge adjustable sissy bar and luggage rack combo.I would rather NOT add such thing to the PC.... Paul>> > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul B. Atkins [SMTP:patkins@mari.net] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 10:12 AM > To: Prince, Roger; pc 800 list > Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... > > >Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... > >Sent: 04/10/1998 7:17 > >From: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com > >To: Patkins > > > > > >My suggestion, if you are serious about buying a leftover '96, is DO > IT > >NOW. I'm not too sure how long they will last at the bargain price > of > >$5999. (or less). Super buy. > DITTO..having a great time with mine! Rapidly approaching the magic > 600 > miles number so that I can go over 4 k on the tach... > >You can buy GiVi through a dealer or GiVi may reference you to a > >stocking dealer. I don't believe they sell direct any longer except > at > >shows like Daytona. Quality product. Don't waste money on the > >Hondaline backrest. Don't buy the backrest pad until you are sure > you > >need it. > Why is that? I have been waiting to see if my wonderful significant > other > would feel more comfortable with it. She has not decided yet, but she > is > used to riding on the old CB 750 with a huge adjustable sissy bar and > luggage rack combo.I would rather NOT add such thing to the PC.... > Paul > >Don't wait too long. Then you will have to buy a $6500. '97 model. > > > >Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:03:29 -0700 From: Phil Lewis To: ChuckQdini CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Gregg DesElms stobe idea ChuckQdini wrote: > Gregg: > I really liked your idea of installing a strobe light in the "dead > lens". I anyone is interested, J. C. Whitney (http://www.jcwhitneyusa.com/shoponline/) has a mini-strobe for $9.95. The red lens is #81BC3795U. I was thinking about getting one or two and mounting them for extra brake lights, but I don't know if California code would allow it, even if used only while braking. But it sure would be noticeable!! Phil -- ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. * ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bobmcil@bellatlantic.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:46 -0400 To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Comparisons Michael S. Brown wrote: > > Hey Everyone - > > Got to ride a R1100RT last saturday. It was an interesting ride. I was > really looking forward to trying out a bike with about twice the horsepower > of the PC. I was disappointed. The accelleration seemed comprable to my > PC! Maybe I was just not being very objective about the matter, so I did > some research. See below. > > Parameter PC80089 PC80097 ST1100 R1100RT Concours > ¼ mile time 14.05 14.36 12.47 12.75 12.10 > ¼ mile speed 90.88 84.10 107.90 103.75 108.06 > 0-60 time 5.1 6.09 4.38 4.52 3.85 > Top speed 117 108 132 125 126 > 60 – 0 distance 132' 115' 120' 129' 126' > Mpg 43.2 49.3 37.9 37.5 34.9 > Tank gallons 4.2 - 7.4 6.6 7.5 > Range 181 207 281 248 262 > Hp 51.1 45.6 88.3 79.3 88.4 > Torque 43.0 41.0 70.9 65.6 63.3 > Transmission 5 speed - 5 speed 5 speed 6 speed > Drive Shaft - Shaft Shaft Shaft > Wheel base 61.2" - 61.2" 62.8" 61.0" > Rake/trail 28.0/4.0 - 27.5/4.0 27.2/4.8 28.5/4.8 > Seat height 30.1 - 31.5 30.8 – 32.3 32.0 > Ground clear 5.5 - 5.7 6.0 5.1 > Weight 635# 620# 726# 622# 618# > Engine V Twin - V Four Opposed twin In line 4 > Approx. Cost 6,500 7,500 13,999 15,999 9,299 > Source CW MCN MCN MCN MCN > > Kind of hard to feel a 1 to 2 second differnce over 12 seconds. Did like > the electric adjustable windshield though. > > Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. I ride a 97 PC, and my dad rides a 96 R1100RT. There are a lot of differences. One of the most noticable is that while the PC feels light and flickable in the corners, kinda like my Hawk GT, the RT tends to want to stand up in the corners unless you really throw it over and hold it there. Where the RT really stands out hovever is when you ride at ridicously fast speeds, say 70mph in a 25mph turn. Not really my kind of riding but it really works there. Having spent time in the saddle of both bikes I can say that I think the PC is overall the better ride unless you plan to really fly and there is a significant amount of power availible on th RT above 4500 rpm. Mike McIlmoyle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:44:58 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: "Michael S. Brown" , "PC800" Subject: RE: PC800: Comparisons Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:43:29 -0700 Importance: Normal DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL FINDINGS BASED ON HOW I LIKE TO RIDE. I tend to ride long distances (500+ days) and often at elevated speeds. Your results are likely to vary for the speeds, loads, and types of riding you do. Fuel mileage for the ST was listed a bit low in my opinion. MCN reported 37.9mpg and unless your really going fast I've found much better mileage than that on my ST, even when fully loaded with gear and passenger. My bike is equipped with a +5 Clearview shield and has CA emissions equipment (as are all 96 and higher ABS versions in the US I believe). My findings: Freeway miles at legal/near legal speeds - 45mpg+ (best was 50mpg) Cruising speeds of 85-90mph (where it likes to run) - 42mpg Worst mileage I ever had running 90+ with a big headwind - 24mpg Ironically, I get better mileage on my ST than I do on my rejetted PC for the type of riding I do. And the huge gas tank keeps me on the road longer which I prefer. Another note: The low fuel warning light on the ST comes on when there's about 1.4 gallons left -- a 60 mile reserve! I routinely fill-up between 230-250 miles simply because I hate worrying about that damn light. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life/HRCA/HSTA/STOC 1999 Iron Butt competitor '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:28:21 CDT (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.10) id LAA05423 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:23:19 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:47:28 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Gauges To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Content-disposition: inline There have been some messages about dash gauges. = I have VDO gauges (quartz clock and voltmeter) installed in my dash. = Here are some messages about the subejct. I recommend them most highly Dana P.S. Happy Easter! VDO is a company that makes quality instruments. For a catalog, call USI Wholesale Distribution toll-free at 800/877-4798.The instruments that I purchased are shown on page 16. My mechanic installed them for me, and di= d a first-class job! He installed them in the upper inside corners of the dash panels where radio speakers could be mounted. I would suggest that y= ou discuss the possible installation with a friend or your mechanic. I did n= ot want to tackle the job myself. I am extremely pleased with the installation! Retail prices for the gauges were $36.50 for the voltmeter and $49.95 for the quartz clock. I paid about $60 for the gauges ($21.90= for the voltmeter and $29.97 for the quartz clock) plus $6.39 freight for= a total of $58.26, and probably two hour's time for my mechanic to install them (at $49 an hour.) That made my installation about $150, but I have n= o regrets The gauges are illuminated for night reading. They have black fac= es with white numerals, and also have gauges with white faces and black numerals (see page 17). I wanted gauges to closely match my stock instruments. My mechanic made a wiring harness for the gauges and did all= the wiring up under the fairing from the front. It wasn't a super difficult job, but my mechanic is a true craftsman and I wanted his speci= al touch in installing them! Detailed installation instructions are included= , but no wiring. = My voltmeter shows 13 volts on the gauge (13 1/2 volts at the battery) consistently while riding along the road. Hope this helps. Dana =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Here's an old post about installing these gauges... Wiring the two items shouldn't take too long or get too complicated. Print this out, take a deep breath, and don't rush things. = The clock probably has three wires - a ground wire and two positive leads. One lead goes to a circuit that's "hot" all the time. Direct to the battery is fine but you might want to add a fuse somewhere inline too. This lead keeps the clock timer running when the bike isn't running. The other positive lead goes to a "switched" power source and is used to light the clock display. One of the front running lights is probably sufficient as a power source or you could wire it up to the rear accessory outlet you already found. The ground wire need only be connected to the bike frame and any screw or bolt in the frame should make a good anchor point. = Voltmeter: Again, a "switched" is needed so it only operates while the bike is running. A good ground connection a necessity. Wiring: You could share both these items off the same wires with no trouble. Neither uses more than a smidgen of current. The simplest approach would be to tap into the running light wires you'll find near The l/r mirror assemblies. Careful 'cause you'll have a ground and a pos for the running light and another pos for turn signal - the turn signal lead you want to avoid. For the constant positive lead on the clock you can run a wire down the right side of the bike to the battery and connect it up directly to the battery (consider a fuse too). An alternative to tapping the running light wire is to run a lead back along the right side of the bike to the accessory jack under the seat. Be careful that your connections are secure and weatherproof. If Possible, get some "shrink tubing" to cover the wire connections instead Of electrical tape. Shrink tubing does just what its name implies when You heat it with a heat source (heat gun, match, lighter, etc) making a Tight weather-proof seal. Soldering connections is more reliable than Snap-type or crimp type connectors but it's not crucial for these types Of accessories. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: New Guy! Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:03:34 -0400 Hello, I am a new member to the PC800 list! My name is Bruce Bednarski and I'm in Atlanta, GA. I just recently purchased a used '89 PC from a fellow list member (Dave Lott). The only Modifications to the bike are a tall Hondaline windshield and a Corbin Seat. In time I am sure I will customize the bike a little, but I am somewhat of a minimalist and think that the bike is really nice they way it is. I wouldn't mind using the speaker cutouts for some add ons, any advice/opinions would be greatly welcomed. If you don't mind, I would like to know what is the issue with the stator? Personal experiences with the '89 are greatly appreciated. I would like to know if the problem occurs on all 89's or if there is a window of time that if passed, you are pretty much safe?!?!. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bert.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA01277; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:11:59 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: bobmcil@bellatlantic.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Comparisons PC800 vs. R1100RT Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:03 -0700 Now this was a fascinating post. When it comes to cornering, my experience was exactly the opposite. I find the RT "flickable" and very easy to turn etc., while the PC was more "resistant to change". Hmmmm. I wasn't sure if it was the bikes, or the tires. Now I am being convinced that it is the tires. My PC had stock rubber followed by bias ply Metzler ML2s. My RT has Michellin Macadam 90 Radials. This would also be in harmony with the great feeling that comes from driving on new tires -- maybe it really is better. What kind of tires are on your dad's bike? I think stock tires on Beemers are currently Metzlers. I am beginning to think I will get another set of Michelins when mine wear out. Someone on the BMW list didn't like the handling of the Metzlers. Although the idea of a steel belted tire (and my imagined protection from flats) such as the Metzler Z4 radial does appeal to me. (I've been riding on Metzlers for many many years.) What kind of rubber do you have? Does anybody have radials on their PC? Is this possible/safe? While I cannot personally attest to the high speed driving, the BMW rider profile seems to be skewed heavily towards people who like to ride fast. I have read about 70mph accidents, and many triple digit tickets. One letter today mentioned holding speed down to 75mph because of radar traps (I am guessing in a 65mph or 70mph zone). The RT is kind of a luxury sport tourer. Between the RS (sport tourer) and the LT (luxury tourer). Apparently it is for people who like to go long distances at high speeds. The PC seems to be patterned more after the Gold Wing rider. The recent drop in price of the PC worries me. Hopefully that points to a new model being released, and the desire to clear the old ones out first. It would be a shame to see one of the best bikes on the planet go away :-(. The price of the BMW K1100LT just dropped about $3000. That is most likely due to the release of the K1200LT. Maybe Honda has a good surprise in store. Todd Vierheller '96 R1100RT, "Rain Dancer" '96 PC800 (May she rest in peace.) > -----Original Message----- > From: bobmcil@bellatlantic.net [SMTP:bobmcil@bellatlantic.net] > I ride a 97 PC, and my dad rides a 96 R1100RT. There are a lot of > differences. One of the most noticable is that while the PC feels > light > and flickable in the corners, kinda like my Hawk GT, the RT tends to > want to stand up in the corners unless you really throw it over and > hold > it there. Where the RT really stands out hovever is when you ride at > ridicously fast speeds, say 70mph in a 25mph turn. Not really my kind > of > riding but it really works there. Having spent time in the saddle of > both bikes I can say that I think the PC is overall the better ride > unless you plan to really fly and there is a significant amount of > power > availible on th RT above 4500 rpm. > Mike McIlmoyle > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by bert.nordstrom.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA01281 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:14:20 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:16:23 -0700 Why does a PC800 owner put on a Corbin seat anyway? (Dave Lott and Bernie?) The PC has a fantastic stock seat. I'm really curious. Todd Vierheller '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" To: "'todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:51:54 -0400 You know what they say Todd....."different strokes for different folks". I have no comparison base as far as comfort/functionality from stock vs. Corbin. I will say that the black Corbin seat with White piping is a really good looking combination with the Pearl paint. Also the adjustable lumbar support seemed to add support on my first ride. > ---------- > From: > todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com[SMTP:todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 3:16 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats > > Why does a PC800 owner put on a Corbin seat anyway? (Dave Lott and > Bernie?) The PC has a fantastic stock seat. I'm really curious. > > Todd Vierheller > '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:13:24 +0000 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Decision Made Thanks for the responses about windshields. I have made my choice. I ordered a Hondaline from Waynesville, NC for $184 including shipping. They are ordering it from Honda, so I'll let you know how long it takes to get it. I made one last call to the dealer where I bought my bike before I placed the order. He did offer to come off 10% from $238. I would have given him $200 to keep my business local, but.......I am Scottish! I did surf up Saeng and looked at their products, too. If I still need air space I may consider the edging. I really didn't care for the flaps. How 'bout some news on rides and get togethers? Pat McNew 96 PC800 380 (s)miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:53:53 -0400 And I thought I was the only one with that opinion. My '95 seat was made with cheap foam so I replaced it with a '90 seat. Roger > -----Original Message----- > From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com > [SMTP:todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com] > > Why does a PC800 owner put on a Corbin seat anyway? (Dave Lott and > Bernie?) The PC has a fantastic stock seat. I'm really curious. > > Todd Vierheller > '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:28:37 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Corbin Seats m> At 19:53 4/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >And I thought I was the only one with that opinion. My '95 seat was >made with cheap foam so I replaced it with a '90 seat. Boy, those poor '95 PCs just don't get any breaks, do they? :-) Have a good weekend everyone. Get out there and RIDE! Juan Don't be afraid of death so much as an inadequate life. -Bertolt Brecht --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) 11 Apr 1998 02:04:42 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:01:46 -0500 From: Mike Ver Velde Subject: Re: PC800: New Guy! To: "Bednarski, Bruce R (CAP, RFS)" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello, I am a new member to the PC800 list! My name is Bruce Bednarski and I'm in Atlanta, GA. I just recently purchased a used '89 PC from a fellow list member (Dave Lott). If you don't mind, I would like to know what is the issue with the stator? Personal experiences with the '89 are greatly appreciated. I would like to know if the problem occurs on all 89's or if there is a window of time that if passed, you are pretty much safe?!?!. Bruce- The 89 Stator is a weird thing. I have 34500 miles on my 89 and it has been riding well since. Last week I was having funny things happening when I started up in the morning. Thought ohhh noooo, here goes $300!. Then the problems stopped. I realized that last week on this list, there was some discussion about different ways people operate their choke. I was trying out those options to see if it works better. Duh. No it didnt. Went back to my original way- leave it on for about a min, shut it, drive off. It purrrrred. Others have noticed their 89 failing around the 32k mark. But it does vary. Im starting to wonder if the kind of riding has an impact on stator failure. Since I got this 89 in August, I have basically been commuting to work- 65 miles one way- freeway. Monday thru Friday. I put alot of miles on my PC in a short time (got the bike in August with 24600 mi). Dont know if that does anything. Mike V -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:43:31 -0500 To: pilewis1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock At 11:05 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: >I agree with Dave, when you turn the key off, the clock should still be >on. The only thing that should go off is the backlight. I was thinking it was like a clock in a car stereo where the entire display would go out but the constant voltage wire would keep the clock time. Apparently I was wrong for this model. But either way, the clock is defective. I verified that the orange constant voltage wire (or the circuit itself) is defective. Just to make sure it wasn't my bike, I plugged the red switched wire into the constant voltage slot on the bike's accessory plug and it worked fine (the clock came on with the backlight, etc). So, I just need a replacement clock...as far as I can tell. Kind of annoying after I had it all mounted and ready to go but the next time will be much easier now that I know exactly where I want to install it. Looking forward to getting it! Thanks for your thoughts. BTW, how come you are selling your PC? Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:22:27 -0500 To: Dave Bartlett , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock At 11:40 PM 4/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >Are you sure you wired it up correctly? The clock should NEVER go > out... if it does, then you will lose the time. One wire is > constant power, so it will always show the time and the volts, > and that is what keeps the time correct.. > The other wire supplies power to the backlight and the colored > LEDs along the side... that is switched power. It's that constant wire (or the circuit) that is out. I verified that it's not the constant accessory connector on the bike so I ordered a replacement from JC Whitney. I just assumed that the constant wire would just hold the time and not keep the clock LEDs charged. I'm looking forward to getting the new one, the job will be much quicker now that I know exactly how I want to mount it. I am happy with the mounting position that I mentioned. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:22:07 -0500 To: Steve Wilson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: Re: PC800: 12volt JC Whitney clock At 10:58 PM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >Is there a picture available? Not yet, but there will be. Once I get the replacement clock, I'll take pictures of it and the exposed panels if anyone is interested in that. I am currently creating a small web site for some other pictures of my bike, mostly the Cycle Comm system installed in the top shelter and will add the clock pix to the site. I'll post a message to the group once I get the web site up and running. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:51:00 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Hall Subject: PC800: 89' alternator/stator Just a thought.... 89'alternator I read here recently that the alternator is in the oil? That the oil is the cause of the wiring failure? That Honda's answer to the failure is to install a new "improved" version which simply has thicker insulation on the wiring? If so, then it would stand to reason that the "improved" version will fail also, albiet after a longer service life. I guess that I wonder if the bikes that have had this failure have had mineral oil in the crankcase or synthetic oil;i.e. Mobil 1 I also wonder if the failure is caused by a chemical reaction at all (as was implied by the Honda folks I believe) , or by "turbulance" in the oil, thus possibly explaining the relativly simple design fix of increasing the wire size(thus strength). Make sense or not? Alan alanh@wt.net Houston,TX 89' PC 800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Partington" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seats Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:44:33 -0700 I have a 1994, Black PC800 with the stock grey seat. I ride 150 miles every saturday to Tucson and back, and my rear gets real sore after an hour. I have not seen a corbin seat, but would be interested to know if anyone else has the same problem with the stock seat. This is my only complaint against the PC-800. I can put up with wind buffeting on the freeway at 80 mph, and the defining noise, but if I could make the seat better I would. On the archives I have seen that the corbin has less padding, but it is wider, also it has some sort of adjustable lumbar support, and lastly is lower. If I knew this would help, I would buy a new a seat.... Ok lets hear your thoughts. Sore in Arizona... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Partington" To: , "Hall" Subject: Re: PC800: 89' alternator/stator Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:08:20 -0700 I have read the archives and we beat the poor stator to death on the 89. It amazes me that there have been so few stator failures on other years. Is the 90 and later year stator isolated fully from the oil, or is it like Hall said they just use thicker enamel insulation on the windings. If so, we are all doomed of the stator failure at some point. On another point, almost all PC 800's will suffer from the petcock diaphram failure, because of a poor design. Why dont they do dealer recalls on such documented problems, if these problems existed in a Honda Automobiles, there would most certainly be a recall. Its not really fair for 89 owners to pay 300-400 dollars for oversights by the manufacturer. The fuel petcock diaphram is sold as an entire assemble, we are also scalped here for 80 dollars for a 2 dollar defect. Im all for supporting my local Honda dealer, but I would rather spend 300% more on oil and 500% more on air filters. Anyway Im sure everyone gets my point... That sure felt good to say... take care -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:12:31 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: PC800: My website Hi folks, I just finished creating my website and I'm uploading the files now. By the time you read this message, the site will be online. There's some pictures of my bike including the Cycle Comm Intercom/CB system mounted in the false tank. I don't have pictures of the JC Whitney clock because as you know, I am waiting for a replacement. I'll try to get pictures of the clock on my site as soon as I can. Let me know what you think of my site, good or bad. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.05) id 5496100 ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:57:52 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:01:26 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Iron Butt 1000 FYI - there is a great story in the April Motorcyclist magazine on the 1997 Iron Butt 1000. The article and pics didn't show any PC800's... But lots of ST-1100's, tons of BMW's, and one guy who made it on a 175cc to claim the smallest bike ever finish. Ouch! Scot '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:22:30 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Lee Morris Subject: PC800: Saeng edging Hi Folks: I'm new to the group; live at Gravois Mills, MO. Just traded my '94 Shadow for a '97 PC so that my SO will enjoy the ride. Have been checking the archives re: Saeng edging to help with stock windshield noise problem and just wondered if any new thoughts/comments on using this product long term. I like to look over the windshield so will definitely not put on a taller shield. Comments would be appreciated. Ride safe! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id LAA08489 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:15:44 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:15:34 -0400 IMHO... I'll have to differ with the original post recommending against the Hondaline passenger backrest. If a GIVI is mounted that would probably change things (I'll spare you from my opinion about that), but to the point. My wife (when she rode as a passenger) found the stock Hondaline to be very reassuring but not particularly 'comfortable'. If your passenger expects to lean on the backrest as I often see Gold Wing passengers (and ironically, cruisers, too) doing, the Hondaline will not suffice. It is there primarily as a "stop" and is not tall enough to really lean on. It always intrigues me that MC riders talk so much about how their shocks, tires, and the aerodynamic and weight distribution effects of various accessories affect handling but don't seemed overly concerned about the biggest single influence on their bikes handling. That being where the weight of the driver and passenger are placed relative to the wheels. When their relatively top heavy passenger is leaning back on a rest, much of their weight is actually behind the rear axle. It imposes a major weight bias to the rear and will dramatically affect the way the bike handles. Personally, I favor a small 'safety' backrest like the Hondaline for the PC over a large structure which encourages this type of passenger behavior. Of course, passenger and passive do come from the same root word - however I, for one, don't really want a passive passenger! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Paul B. Atkins [SMTP:patkins@mari.net] Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 10:12 AM To: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com; pc 800 list Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... >Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... >Sent: 04/10/1998 7:17 >From: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com >To: Patkins > > >My suggestion, if you are serious about buying a leftover '96, is DO IT >NOW. I'm not too sure how long they will last at the bargain price of >$5999. (or less). Super buy. DITTO..having a great time with mine! Rapidly approaching the magic 600 miles number so that I can go over 4 k on the tach... >You can buy GiVi through a dealer or GiVi may reference you to a >stocking dealer. I don't believe they sell direct any longer except at >shows like Daytona. Quality product. Don't waste money on the >Hondaline backrest. Don't buy the backrest pad until you are sure you >need it. Why is that? I have been waiting to see if my wonderful significant other would feel more comfortable with it. She has not decided yet, but she is used to riding on the old CB 750 with a huge adjustable sissy bar and luggage rack combo.I would rather NOT add such thing to the PC.... Paul >Don't wait too long. Then you will have to buy a $6500. '97 model. > >Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Breys" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Tom's website Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:25:19 -0500 I enjoyed Tom's new website and I liked your handles on the back of the truck. If you don't like your purple swirly-dos I heard that oven cleaner will take it off. I don't know if it works I'd be carefull I was told if your bike has clear coat it will work. Does the PC's have clear coat paint? Jack 97 pc Cooler by the Lake -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "The Breys" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: pc800 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:26:15 -0500 On fri I put on my Hondaline tall windshied it made a BIG different.I put 160miles on and the wind buffing was almost gone, very enjoyable. I got mine from Badge Cycle in Manitowoc Wi my local dealer cost $185 it toke 8 days to get and about 15 min to put on. I also got 97 pc from him so he give me good price. I got 599.6 miles on so time to change the oil Jack Cooler by the Lake -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: Jekyll 98 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:44:35 -0400 It won't be long until the fall will be coming back around and I've just = gotten some great information for all you motorcycle riders and buddy = seat sitters (car folks too). For the fourth year running there's been = a little get together out on Georgia's famed Jekyll Island, the former = home of the Vanderbuilts, Carnegies, and other "Titanic" class people. = The location is great for alot of reasons; it's located on the coast = between NC,SC,TN and north GA, and those riders in FLA, ALA,MS,& LA. = Since it's in the deep south the weather usually cooperates quite well, = even in mid-november. =20 =20 This year I've just gotten a offer that's incredible...The posh = Jekyll Island Club will be the site. This Victorian hotel is a Landmark = Expeience. The best part our event is getting an outrageous rate of: $49.00 a night which is for single or double and includes a full = breakfast for two each morning. This place is so posh -- valet parking = is offered free for occupants. This bed and breakfast package is at a = good price, and Dinner for Sat evening is still being planned as always. = You can bring that significant-other, wife, friend, etc and have a time = of it in the historic environs. This club has croquet lawns out front = and players, year round, dress in team whites (clothes) and head for the = sticky wickets. =20 =20 So far the hotel is offering the deal for 2 possible dates: 13 & 14 = Nov or 20 & 21 Nov, I think the earlier weekend is better...but what do = you all want? Let me know. The hotel, for the Sat eve get together meal, (for about $24 each) can = set up a local low-country boil right there. This way those imbibing of = the spirits can enjoy safely. Check in time would be 4pm on the Friday = (I hope to have some rooms ready earlier like 1or2 pm). For Friday: I = make some pots of Chili or Seafood gumbo for the arrivals. Saturday = can be for touring or shopping, or riding with us in informal group = rides and then y'all go home on Sunday. By the way, I think if asked = some people could come in a day earlier or stay a day later for the same = daily rate. Those attending the past few years will remember the hotel = I'm talking about. As of now, 25 rooms are blocked off for the HSTA = members. More rooms may be added if needed at this special price. = Take the bike or car or trailer it on over to Jekyll in Nov at this = historic hotel right on Georgia's coast. =20 =20 That's the ideas so far...hope to see alot of you. Randy Ashurst = (912) 261-8989 =20 email: ashurst@gate.net =20 and have a=20 time of it in the historic environs. This club has croquet lawns out = front and=20 players, year round, dress in team whites (clothes) and head for the = sticky=20 wickets.  

 
    So far the hotel is offering the = deal for 2=20 possible dates:  13 & 14 Nov or 20 & 21 Nov,  I think = the=20 earlier weekend is better...but what do you all want?  Let me=20 know.
The hotel, for = the Sat eve=20 get together meal,  (for about $24 each) can set up a local = low-country=20 boil right there.  This way those imbibing of the spirits can enjoy = safely.  Check in time would be 4pm on the Friday (I hope to have = some=20 rooms ready earlier like 1or2 pm).  For Friday:  I make some = pots of=20 Chili or Seafood gumbo for the arrivals.   Saturday can be for = touring=20 or shopping, or riding with us in informal group rides and then y'all go = home on=20 Sunday.  By the way, I think if asked some people could come in a = day=20 earlier or stay a day later for the same daily rate.   Those = attending=20 the past few years will remember the hotel I'm talking about.  As = of now,=20 25 rooms are blocked off for the HSTA members.  More rooms may be = added if=20 needed at this special price.   Take the bike or car or = trailer it on=20 over to Jekyll in Nov at this historic hotel right on Georgia's = coast. =20
   
That's the = ideas so=20 far...hope to see alot of you.  Randy Ashurst   (912)=20 261-8989 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =      =20 email: ashurst@gate.net
  
-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:00:26 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Dave Partington CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Hall Subject: Re: PC800: 89' alternator/stator Dave Partington wrote: > I have read the archives and we beat the poor stator to death on the 89. It > amazes me that there have been so few stator failures on other years. Is the > 90 and later year stator isolated fully from the oil, or is it like Hall > said they just use thicker enamel insulation on the windings. It could also be an insulation that is more oil resistant, or the cause may not be related to oil at all. All we have is anecdotal observations from owners and dealers, as Honda denies there was ever a problem. > On another point, almost all > PC 800's will suffer from the petcock diaphram failure, because of a poor > design. A very unscientific study of the problem (in the archives) related diaphragm failure to the use of premium grade gas. On reading that, I imediately switched to midgrade, and recently to regular. I haven't noticed a difference in performance, and my diaphragm is holding up fine. > Why dont they do dealer recalls on such documented problems, I don't think Honda is aware of the level at which information on the PC is shared through this list, or they might be more concerned. They look at marketing figures showing PC sales as isolated, and figure so are the riders. Of course it would help if the group were to fire off letters to the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the Federal Trade Commisssion and the National Highway Transportation Safety Board. They could pressure Honda into a recall of these items. The same is true with the windshield hazing problem and the dash melt problem. Alan Taylor 95 PC800 "Midnight" Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Shumaker To: "'todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:04:46 -0700 I just ordered a Corbin seat, with backrest, for my '97 Pacific Coast. = Why? A combination of reasons. I like the way they look. The 1 1/2 = inch lower seating position appeals to me as well as the adjustable = front seating position. My wife much preferred the Corbin backrest to = the Honda backrest. I hope it meets my expectations. Dave -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com [SMTP:todd.vierheller@nordstrom.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 12:16 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Pc800 and Corbin Seats Why does a PC800 owner put on a Corbin seat anyway? (Dave Lott and Bernie?) The PC has a fantastic stock seat. I'm really curious. Todd Vierheller '96 R1100RTL, "Rain Dancer" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: milestones Date: Sat, 11 Apr 98 16:31:05 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: "pc 800 list" Hit a few milestones today...with the "new" '96 PC... =80ran into my first raindrops on this bike =80hit the 600 mile mark =80washed the bike for the first time =80missed a bunny rabbit....(got to execute that swerving = maneuver..don'tcha know!) ahh, it's great to be alive :) ! Have a good one! Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: pc800 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 98 16:31:15 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >Subject: PC800: pc800 >Sent: 04/11/1998 10:29 AM >From: lbrey@dataplusnet.com >To: Patkins > > >On fri I put on my Hondaline tall windshied it made a BIG different.I put >160miles on and the wind buffing was almost gone, very enjoyable. >I got mine from Badge Cycle in Manitowoc Wi my local dealer cost $185 it >toke 8 days to get and about 15 min to put on. I also got 97 pc from him so >he give me good price. >I got 599.6 miles on so time to change the oil > >Jack >Cooler by the Lake Jack..just hit my 600 miles today too. I am taking mine if for a check up next week! It sure is nice to get to 5 k on the tach..just a little pick up, eh? Paul -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:22:05 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Blue Diamond Installed After a little checking I figured out that I don't have a Blue Diamond after all. I have an "All Weather Bulb". I still looks like a carnival on two wheels. I also found that the All Weather Bulbs are more expensive than the Blue Diamonds. I will do some riding tonight and report back as to the light emitted and looks elicited. Steve Wilson Ruston LA. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: FERNDO Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:59:40 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 1995 Black for Sale Hi There. I have a 95 PC800 Black for sale in the state of Virginia. * Garaged kept never dropped * 10,458 miles * Hondaline Tall Shield * Vista Cruise control * Priority light system * Passenger backrest * Shop Manual * Original owner's manual and tools * Wheel lock * Helmet lock * Cargo Net * Scheduled maintenance Will throw in a medium rain suit and bike cover. Asking $5,200 or best offer My day number in the U.S. is (703) 787-3478 Thanks Fernando P.S. I also have a chatterbox intercon system with driver and pasenger full face helmet system never used, and a ONE OF A KIND POWER CABLE. New without power cable cost $175.00 will sell for $50.00 with sale of PC or by itself for $125.00 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:07:09 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Tom Ambrosio Subject: PC800: Noise Filter Hi folks, I have searched the archives and found a few references for noise filters but am not sure which filter to get from Rat Shack. I just bought a pair of J&M headsets for use with the Cycle Comm system that was installed on my '95 when I bought it. The system works ok but isn't great at over 65mph. Fortunately most of our trips will be on non-interstate roads and we probably won't be going over 65mph. Wind noise can be a problem though and if it gets real bad, I have to shut the intercom off and let my wife use the PTT button to talk to me. Her helmet isn't great and we have ordered another one that will be in next week so hopefully that will help her hear me better and will be more comfortable for her also. Sorry for rambling, let me get back to my question: She gets no electronic noise (alternator or ignition) on her headset and I get what I assume is the ignition noise. It's not the change in pitch alternator noise so I assume it's the ignition noise. I heard someone describe it as a "motorboat" noise and I guess that is a pretty good description. It's basically a bunch of ticking noises. I assume each tick is the firing of a spark plug? Which noise filter from Radio Shack should I get? Here are the choices that I am aware of: 1) 10-amp noise filter. Reduces noise and interference entering through 12VDC power lead. Cat number 270-051, page 226 of 1997 catalog. $14.99 2) Noise eliminator kit. Includes filter choke, capacitor and instructions. Cat number 270-030, page 226 of 1997 catalog. $3.99 3) 20-amp noise filter. Heavy duty design for extra suppression of alternator and ignition noise. Cat 270-055, page 226 of 1997 catalog. $19.99 4) Feedthrough filter capacitor. Helps cut noise from ignition system, fan motor or DC generator. Simple to install. Capacitor is rated 0.5uF, 40 amps, 60WVDC. Cat 272-1085, page 226 of 1997 catalog. $6.49 Naturally, I don't want to spend more than I have to but if one of these (or another you may suggest) would do the trick, it will be well worth it. Tom Ambrosio Evansville, IN http://www.evansville.net/~tambrosi '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id IfS00441; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:10:05 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: lbrey@dataplusnet.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:05:02 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: Tom's website From: miketwh@juno.com (Mike T Whited) Yes, the PC does have a clear coat....er, at least my '94 does. > If you don't like your purple swirly-dos I heard that oven >cleaner >will take it off. I don't know if it works I'd be carefull I was >told >if your bike has clear coat it will work. Does the PC's have clear >coat >paint? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:28:32 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Mike T Whited CC: lbrey@dataplusnet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tom's website Do I take your reply to also mean that you no longer have purple swirlies? Steve Wilson Ruston LA. 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:44:51 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: newbie stuff... Jim Randall wrote: > > IMHO... > > I'll have to differ with the original post recommending against > the Hondaline passenger backrest. If a GIVI is mounted that > would probably change things (I'll spare you from my opinion > about that), but to the point. My wife (when she rode as a > passenger) found the stock Hondaline to be very reassuring > but not particularly 'comfortable'. If your passenger expects to > lean on the backrest as I often see Gold Wing passengers > (and ironically, cruisers, too) doing, the Hondaline will not > suffice. It is there primarily as a "stop" and is not tall enough > to really lean on. > > It always intrigues me that MC riders talk so much about how their > shocks, tires, and the aerodynamic and weight distribution effects > of various accessories affect handling but don't seemed overly > concerned about the biggest single influence on their bikes handling. > That being where the weight of the driver and passenger are placed > relative to the wheels. When their relatively top heavy passenger is > leaning back on a rest, much of their weight is actually behind the > rear axle. It imposes a major weight bias to the rear and will > dramatically affect the way the bike handles. > > Personally, I favor a small 'safety' backrest like the Hondaline for > the PC over a large structure which encourages this type of > passenger behavior. Of course, passenger and passive do come > from the same root word - however I, for one, don't really want a > passive passenger! > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul B. Atkins [SMTP:patkins@mari.net] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 10:12 AM > To: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com; pc 800 list > Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... > > >Subject: RE: PC800: newbie stuff... > >Sent: 04/10/1998 7:17 > >From: RPrince@imps0014.us.dg.com > >To: Patkins > > > > > >My suggestion, if you are serious about buying a leftover '96, is DO IT > >NOW. I'm not too sure how long they will last at the bargain price of > >$5999. (or less). Super buy. > DITTO..having a great time with mine! Rapidly approaching the magic 600 > miles number so that I can go over 4 k on the tach... > >You can buy GiVi through a dealer or GiVi may reference you to a > >stocking dealer. I don't believe they sell direct any longer except at > >shows like Daytona. Quality product. Don't waste money on the > >Hondaline backrest. Don't buy the backrest pad until you are sure you > >need it. > Why is that? I have been waiting to see if my wonderful significant other > would feel more comfortable with it. She has not decided yet, but she is > used to riding on the old CB 750 with a huge adjustable sissy bar and > luggage rack combo.I would rather NOT add such thing to the PC.... > Paul > >Don't wait too long. Then you will have to buy a $6500. '97 model. > > > >Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Gee Jim, you'd have a hissee if you saw my wife ride. I'll look in the mirror and see her out on a saddle bag or slouched down sleeping for what seems like hours, been doing theis for about 30 years. Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:51:53 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Happy Easter&Gimme some advice please. Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:50:20 -0400 Happy Easter to all! For those of you using rifle windshields, please share your knowledge with me concerning the "proper height" to order. I am 5"10", 32" inseam. My PC is a '97 with the stock seat. Now that it's breaking in, turbulence and noise at freeway speeds is totally bothersome. I do not wish to look through the windshield to gain the quiet this bike so desperately needs. Rifle's ads state that their design is superior to Honda's-does that imply that a lesser height will do the same(or better) job than the Honda model? I certainly do not want to order a shield that is inadequate in height("superior angle of attack" or not) and still be on the fringes of a truly great riding experience. Gee honey, I cut this damn thing twice already, and it's STILL too short! =:-) Thanks in advance for any and all help. Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 853(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:58:36 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: dickie@bealenet.com, "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: newbie stuff... Thanks to this list and the wonders of the internet, I had fun with someone I had never met. Richard, I met your brother a couple of nights ago at a convenience store. I had filled my bike up with gas and was talking with a friend of mine on a new Harley when your brother walked up and started looking at my bike, not the Harley. He said something like "nice bike, I have a Gold Wing". I then freaked him out by asking if he had a brother that lived in Pennsylvania or somewhere up that direction. He said yes, in Virginia. I said he owns a PC too. He said yea. I then said your name is Stafford and you should have seen his face. He wanted to know how I knew and my buddy told him I had ESP. He was really impressed until I fessed up and told him that you had told me about him on this list and that I really wasn't gifted. He said to tell you hi next time I saw you on the list so, HI. Ain't this list a hoot? Steve Wilson Ruston LA. 95 PC800(that makes people walk past Harleys' to get a better look) PS. My spell checker suggested harlot for the word Harley. Snicker,snicker,snicker. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:13:44 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Happy Easter & Rifle advice Hi Steve: I have the 22inch Rifle and I'm 6-2. To see over the top, I have to sit up a little more, but a lot of the time I'm looking through the windshield. This doesn't bother me too much because I have the tinted shield (which at times can be a comfort to the eyes). My advice to you is this: Since you're 4 inches shorter than me, and you don't want to look through the shield, I suggest you order the 20 inch. The Rifle is a great improvement over the original Honda shield. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:40:20 EDT To: dave@partington.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seats I have the same rig as you, ('94 PC w/ stock seat) I have riden over 30K miles and recently installed a Corbin. I could not ride over 150 miles without getting off for gas and a much needed break for my ass. I have yet to do the "Full Monty" but first impressions are encouraging. Yesterday I rode about 200 miles with plenty of sight seeing stops but it already feels like it's going to be better. They are expensive, and for a while they didn't fit very well (or at all) but the current model has not been complained about so.... plunk down the cash.... I think you won't be disappointed. Also, I'm 6'2" and the bike always felt a bit cramped after a long time in the saddle. Now that I am even lower, I'm not sure what that will do over the long haul..... TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id PAA14379 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:39:45 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: 89' alternator/stator Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:37:44 -0400 Unless it can be shown there is a safety risk, I rather doubt that the organizations mentioned below would have much interest in these particular problems. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alan Taylor [SMTP:ka2wij@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 1998 8:00 AM To: Dave Partington Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Hall Subject: Re: PC800: 89' alternator/stator Dave Partington wrote: > I have read the archives and we beat the poor stator to death on the 89. It > amazes me that there have been so few stator failures on other years. Is the > 90 and later year stator isolated fully from the oil, or is it like Hall > said they just use thicker enamel insulation on the windings. It could also be an insulation that is more oil resistant, or the cause may not be related to oil at all. All we have is anecdotal observations from owners and dealers, as Honda denies there was ever a problem. > On another point, almost all > PC 800's will suffer from the petcock diaphram failure, because of a poor > design. A very unscientific study of the problem (in the archives) related diaphragm failure to the use of premium grade gas. On reading that, I imediately switched to midgrade, and recently to regular. I haven't noticed a difference in performance, and my diaphragm is holding up fine. > Why dont they do dealer recalls on such documented problems, I don't think Honda is aware of the level at which information on the PC is shared through this list, or they might be more concerned. They look at marketing figures showing PC sales as isolated, and figure so are the riders. Of course it would help if the group were to fire off letters to the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the Federal Trade Commisssion and the National Highway Transportation Safety Board. They could pressure Honda into a recall of these items. The same is true with the windshield hazing problem and the dash melt problem. Alan Taylor 95 PC800 "Midnight" Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id QAA15015 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:04:35 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'dickie@bealenet.com'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: FW: PC800: newbie stuff... Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:04:03 -0400 Dick Stafford wrote: >Gee Jim, you'd have a hissee if you saw my wife ride. I'll look in the >mirror and see her out on a saddle bag or slouched down sleeping for >what seems like hours, been doing theis for about 30 years. Naw, I wouldn't have a hissee but I would probably wonder how she hangs on! Mine went to sleep one night while we were toolin' down the interstate at about 70... scared both of us nearly to death when she awoke with a jerk. That was about the same time she decided she needed her own bike. Different, but related (remotely). Years ago (yeah, it was probably about 30), we rode with a couple who always needed to be in front. Not that it was a competitive thing. It's just that the other guy's wife got really disturbed when she could see how much the bike in front leaned in the turns. I guess as long as she couldn't see it, it really didn't exist for her. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id QAA15025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:04:46 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: harlot? Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:04:55 -0400 Steve Wilson wrote: >PS. My spell checker suggested harlot for the word Harley. >Snicker,snicker,snicker Thank you Steve, best laugh I'd had in a couple of days! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:40:20 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:59:08 -0600 From: "Rich Stucky" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Trip Report Colorado Springs to Park City --Or Bust Well, three weeks ago I arranged to buy a '90 PC in Colorado Springs. And = since then we've had three weeks of storm after storm with rain at lower = elevations and snow in the mountains. Thursday afternoon, the weather finally look clear enough here in Park = City and in Colorado Springs for me to consider a trip to pick it up. I = would have to move quickly ----- another El Nino storm was going to hit = California and arrive in Utah by Saturday. Thursday afternoon 5PM caught an airport shuttle to SLC airport. Thursday evening 6:35PM ---- Delta Flight 2464 ---- SLC to Denver Int'l. Thursday evening 8:15PM ---- arrived Denver Int'l and found the only = shuttle bus to Colorado Springs left at 7:00pm. I checked on a flight to = Colorado Springs ---for another $130, I'll pass. Thursday evening 9:15PM ---- National Car Rental offers to rent me a = midsize car for $29.95 with no drop off charge ------ Colorado Springs = here I come!!! Arrived in Colorado Springs at 11:00pm. Lynn Pritchard, the owner of the = PC, offered to meet me at the airport. I dropped off the rental car and = we drove to his home. Friday morning 12:05 am --- I got my first look at the bike. Nice = pinstripping. Honda Radio, Honda Tall winshield, throttle lock, rear wing, = front and rear spoilers. The bike has only 6,945 miles. Completed the = bill sale and title and went to bed close to 1:00am. Friday morning 7:00am --- Lynn woke me up and after providing breakfast, I = dressed for the trip. Colorado Springs is 6,800' above sea level --- just = like Park City. I wore long underwear, pants, shirt and jacket under my = aerostitch. =20 Friday morning 8:00am --- Left Lynns home, the sun was shining and the = temperature was about 40 degrees. I messed up on Lynns directions = immediately missing the second turn. Fortunately the road I was on took = me to the freeway in about 5 miles. Headed north on I25. In the first hour I noticed the windshield seemed smaller than the '89 I = had owned earlier. I was looking through the winshield but close to the = top ----then I realized the difference wasn't a smaller screen. I had put = a Corbin seat on my '89 and I sat approx. an inch lower. =20 It was cold, but I was comfortable except for my hands were a little cold. = South of Denver I turned west on I470 and connected with I70 west and = realized I needed a quick stop for a pee break and to thaw out. =20 Friday morning 9:00am ---- I had gone 65 miles, Lynn had put 90 miles = previously on the tank so I fueled up for the next leg. Checked messages = at the office and was on the road again by 9:30am. In the next leg I passed through old mining towns like Georgetown and = Silver Plume, the road had a nice series of turns and great views of the = rockies. I continued climbing and I was getting colder ----there was no = snow on the ground in Colorado Springs or Denver but as I climbed snow was = everywhere. By the time I reached the Eisenhower tunnel (approximately = 1.25 miles long) I was shivering ---- the road was dry and clear except = for around the tunnel and I was a little worried I might hit ice. As I = descended from the summit I continued to shiver and knew it was time for = another stop. Friday morning 10:50am --- I stopped in Silverthorne for coffee and = sandwich. The MacDonalds had a sign which said it was 42 degrees, much = warmer than I had experienced at the summit which I estimate was around = 28-30.=20 Friday morning 11:20am ---- On the road again. A few miles down the road = I came upon the Copper Mtn ski resort. The parking lot was nearly full = and the slopes were dotted with skiers and snowboarders. I passed = another summit that I that I think was close to 11,000 feet. Next came Vail which also had plenty of skiers. I was going down now and = it was getting warmer. Passed up Beaver Creek, very little snow left. Over the next hour I left = the snow behind and headedout across the a series of smaller mountains. = Next I came to Glenwood Canyon --- approx 14 miles long with just enough = room for the Colorado River and the freeway. Very spectacular including = another tunnel a little less than a mile long. Finally came to Rifle, Colorado and needed gas and a break. I stopped and = checked my watch and it was 1:05pm. I thought about looking for the Rifle = factory but forgot when I thought about how far I still needed to go. I = had gone about 240 miles and by my estimate I was still 20 miles short of = halfway. Friday afternoon 1:30pm ---- drove through downtown Rifle going north on = Hwy 13. The rest of the trip would be two lane roads and I was happy to = be off the freeway. Hwy 13 was 44 miles long and I only passed one car = along this section of road. At Meeker, I turned left along Hwy 64. The = sign indicated 74 miles to Dinosaur, Colorado which I decided would be my = next break. =20 The road wound along the White River which looked a more like a creamy = brown. Along this road I saw even fewer cars until I reached the town of = Rangley. Looked like oil drilling was the only reason this town exists = ---- Stopped at Dinosaur at 3:45pm. I realized as I pulled into a parking lot = at I hadn't seen any other motorcycles since a few on the freeway in = Denver. A Harley rider was just pulling out and we exchanged waves. = While inside the store another Harley pulled into the parking lot. The = couple were on their first ride of the season on a brand new bike they = received in January. I was happy to chat with them awhile because I = realized I in addition to being sore I was lonely for conversation. I = had gone 358 miles so far and I really felt tired. Less than two miles out of town I hit the Utah border and cheered outloud. = About ten miles up the road was the road to the Dinosaur National = Monument. It would be nice to explore but I was on a tight schedule. The = next town of Vernal was 30 miles up the road and I had 150 miles on this = tank, but decided to go to the next town before I stopped again. Next stop was Roosevelt, about 18 miles down the road. Gassed up and got = a candy bar for a snack. It was 5:15pm and the lady in the gas station = confirmed I was about 110-120 miles from home. =20 Trouble however, when I tried to start the bike the starter made a zzzzzt = sound and wouldn't turn the engine over. I had electric power, the kick = stand was up, but nothing. I thought maybe I lost the stator as I had = once on my '89 but had not heard '90's had this problem. Anyway I got a = guy to assist me with a push start and I was on the road again. But not for long, four miles out of town and the bike was losing power and = the temperature gauge was climbing. It was 5:45pm. I was 115 miles from = home and this trip was over. A bust. The adventure continues in my = next email message........ Rich Richard Stucky Novell Business Development Group Voice: 801-222-4466 Fax: 801-222-4474=20 Email: rstucky@novell.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:40:21 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:36:55 -0600 From: "Rich Stucky" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Trip Report Colorado Springs to Park City --Or Bust I noticed I was losing power as I was climbing a small hill outside of = Roosevelt. The temperature gauge was climbing towards red but was still = in the normal range. I pulled over and made a U turn to face down the = hill. The bike wouldn't idle and died. I checked the oil again and didn't see or smell anything abnormal. I = turned the key to the on position and had no oil or neutral light. I = coasted down the hill a little and let out the clutch, it turned over but = didn't sound right and I decided a conservative approach was best. I coasted the remaining way down the hill and stopped in the driveway of a = business on the outskirts of town. I had my cell phone with me but not my = card for HRCA. I had just renewed my membership and I could visualize the = card sitting on my desk in the office. I called 800 information for their = number and ------no listing! Now I'm in trouble. Its almost 6:00pm = Friday night----- how am I going to reach them? I called my boss, my admin, and began to call my co-workers, each of which = has their own number. I desperately hoped someone was in the office this = late of a Friday evening. I also carry a 3Com PalmPilot with a directory = of my co-workers. I let the phone ring three rings and go on to the next. = Finally after ten tries I reached a buddy, who says you're very lucky to = get me, in fact he was just heading out the door when the phone rang. He = went to my office and gave me the number to HRCA. I reached HRCA, it's now about 6:05pm. I tell them what happen and where = I am, along the side of the road 4 miles west of the Roosevelt. I know = there's a Honda dealer in Vernal, approx. 25 miles back up the road and I = hope there might be another in Dueschene approximately 30 miles closer to = home. Tracy says she'll make some calls and call me back. I then tried to call my wife. She took the kids to Vegas for a few days = during spring break and should be 1-2 hours away from home herself. I = can't seem to get through on my cell phone. I tried 5-6 times and got = circuit busy signals. I noticed the business I was parked in front of had = some people there. I decided to pull the bike further off the road and = ask to use their phone. I went in side and told them of my trouble and asked to use their phone = and called Diane. She wasn't 1-2 hours south of Park City, she was in = Cedar City. That's a good 6 hours south of Salt Lake. She hadn't left = at noon as we had discussed, she had finally got on the road at 4:00pm. = She wouldn't reach home until around midnight. =20 My host observes she's not going to reach Roosevelt anytime soon. I'm = going to need a room. My cell phone rings. It's Tracy. She's called = every towing service in Roosevelt, Vernal and Heber. The only one that = is answers and is optimistic about towing a motorcycle is 80 miles away = (actually Heber is 100 miles west of Roosevelt) and they don't know when = they can get to me because of the holiday weekend. My host says he can take my bike to Salt Lake on Monday. He had a truck = that goes there every day of the week to pick up parts, he'd take the bike = for $100 on Monday. I tell this to Tracy and she says let me talk to him. = They start talking and she wants him to take it to the nearest dealer, = which happens to be in Vernal and gives him a PO and her address for = billing. As they get off the phone he comments to me it's just as easy and less = expensive for him to take it to Salt Lake. I called Tracy back and she = asks where in Salt Lake. We settle on Monarch Honda in Orem which is 30 = miles south of Salt Lake but only 2 miles from my office. Done deal. I = really appreciate the flexibility Tracy and HRCA showed and felt damn = lucky to have stumbled on to this guy. We push the bike into his shop for = the weekend. He then calls his buddy with the only motel in town and arranges a room = for me. Gives me recommendations for dinner and drives me back to town. = His name is Jim Edwards and his business is called Pumpers Inc. (haven't = figured out the business name yet). =20 A Greyhound bus passes through town at 3:15 am. I get a bite to eat and = fell asleep at 9:00pm. I awoke at 4:10am. The alarm didn't wake me. = So plan 2 is to wait for my wife to wake up and come get me. She arrives = at 11:00 am and we finally headed home. I notice the town of Deuschene = was nothing but a small gas station/coffee shop. Essentially there was = 100 miles of nothing between Roosevelt and Heber. Damn I felt lucky. Monday morning around noon I'll meet the bike when it arrives at Monarch. = Any of you mechanically inclined guys have any idea what's the matter with = it? Rich Richard Stucky Novell Business Development Group Voice: 801-222-4466 Fax: 801-222-4474=20 Email: rstucky@novell.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seats Date: Sun, 12 Apr 98 19:08:37 -0500 From: "Paul B. Atkins" To: , "pc 800 list" >I have the same rig as you, ('94 PC w/ stock seat) I have riden over 30K >miles >and recently installed a Corbin. I could not ride over 150 miles without >getting off for gas and a much needed break for my ass. I have yet to do the >"Full Monty" but first impressions are encouraging. Yesterday I rode about >200 >miles with plenty of sight seeing stops but it already feels like it's going >to be better. They are expensive, and for a while they didn't fit very well >(or at all) but the current model has not been complained about so.... plunk >down the cash.... I think you won't be disappointed. Also, I'm 6'2" and the >bike always felt a bit cramped after a long time in the saddle. Now that I am >even lower, I'm not sure what that will do over the long haul..... > >TZ how about a report in a few thousand miles? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PLeray Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:04:22 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: new intro / question about throttle locks Hello group, I've been lurking for about 2 weeks since I picked up my '97 scooter. I'm 51, been riding since 15, had about 6 scooters, still have my '82 GoldWing which is for sale CHEEP. (she's sat up under cover for 6 yrs). Couldn't resist the siren-song of the pc. My knees have gone south, a bit arthritic, so re-doing the 825# + G/W was pretty much out. Little red critter made kissy-faces at me one too many times. Got a good dealer here in Shreveport, long time dealing with them. Now the question: I've always liked the Vista-Cruise nylon throttle lock, so I took a look at the throttle shaft on the pc and picked up one from my dealer. Now, everything on scooters requires fitting and fiddling, so I thought I'd clip off the cable tab and come up with some way to secure it to the bar cover. I disassembled it and it 'almost' might work if I cut off the grip flange. So I walked in from the garage before I proceeded, 'cause I thought a bunch of you folks might have already come up with some approaches as to this set-up, or other ideas. I'll be around the computer-box. Thanks in advance. Patrick LeRay in Louisiana . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:33:45 -0500 From: "The Ludington's" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New 95....... We just got back from getting my new 95 PC 800....I bought the bike back in November and just drove to Arkport, New York to pick it up this weekend.....I live just 10 miles east of Muncie, Ind.....593 miles each way....What a drive, but I got it unloaded and rode it about 50 miles tonight....Great bike, really looking for some great times.....Any one out there interested to put a group together to ride over to the Honda open-house this July?....I will also tell everyone that this dealer has 1 more brand new 95 PC 800 left......He took a $100.00 down payment on it over 8 months ago and has not heard from the guy.....The bike is perfect, brand new, just like the one I brought home......The company's name is.....Arkport Honda......It is located about 100 miles east of Erie, Pa. If you look east of Erie, to Jamestown, NY.....Go further east on route #17 to where route #36 intersects at North Hornell...Arkport is about 2 miles north.....Great dealership.....My salesman was a young man named Joe.....They have a very good dealeship, several different brands......If you want a 95, this is the guy to call....607-295-7426, just ask for Joe.......Thats all for tonight. Dave & Barb Ludington Farmland, Indiana 95 PC....New today. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:51:47 -0500 From: "The Ludington's" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New windshield..... I am going to replace the stock windshield on my PC....I am asking for the good and bad between the Honda-line tall unit or the Rifle unit.....I want to know, according to some of the messages I see back and forth about the "melting of the dash" problem with the Rifle. What is that all about and how well does the Honda-line shield work......Please give me any info and I am going to needa a passenger back rest.....Best places to buy and all the help.....Thanks to all in advance......Dave & Barb Ludington. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:46:45 -0400 From: Pat McNew To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: PC800: Recruiting Hey Guys, I took a little spin this afternoon. I stopped and bought my third tank of gas. (163 miles on 3.3 gallons) As I was pulling out of the station what should appear but a 89 PC800. This was the first other one I have seen on the road since I got mine. I followed him about five miles till he stopped at his girl friend's house and introduced my self. He rides his to work every night. He gets off at 2:00 AM. He bought his used for $2500 about a year ago from a lady that had not ridden it in over a year. He had not heard about the list and he does have web access. I told him how to find us. I hope he signs up. Pat McNew 96 PC800 395 (s)miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:17:48 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: , Subject: RE: PC800: Iron Butt 1000 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:16:17 -0700 Importance: Normal Our own Bob Ray completed the Butt on his '96 PC800 with aux. fuel cell. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life/HRCA/HSTA/STOC 1999 Iron Butt competitor '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:17:51 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bryce Ulrich" To: "Dave Partington" , Subject: RE: PC800: Corbin Seats Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:16:20 -0700 Importance: Normal The magic of Corbin saddles and other aftermarket goodies is that they offer an alternative. OEM saddles generally are quite soft and generic. In my opinion they feel great when your first sit on them but after and hour or more the open-cell foam compacts and loses it support. If you have a butt that my need extra padding and support in some places, the stock OEM saddles might not do it for you. Custom saddles offer custom support. They aren't one big chunk of soft foam combinations of wear-resistant foam pieced together to offer the proper support that the designer thinks you need. Think of a custom saddle as orthotics for your tush. I'll agree that the stock PC800 saddle was pretty darn good. But for my riding style and preference of riding tank to tank without stopping for 10+ hours/day, I'll go the extra mile (pun) to correct an deficiencies in design that might lead to discomfort. For others the stock saddle fits 'em fine doing the same darn thing (Tim Macy, Bob Ray). BTW: All my mounts are Corbin equipped. So as always, your mileage may vary. -bryceu ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich, Kirkland, WA Voicemail: 1-888-403-6454 Email: bryceu@worldnet.att.net Web: http://home.att.net/~bryceu/ AMA Life/HRCA/HSTA/STOC 1999 Iron Butt competitor '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:47:07 -0400 From: Jason To: pmcnew@bellsouth.net CC: Honda Pacific Coast Group Subject: Re: PC800: Recruiting This brings up an interesting point. Is it proper behavior to follow someone on a PC and introduce yourself? I've done it before, and I've also trotted across a parking lot after a guy on a PC (who took off, probably after looking in his mirror and seeing some 6'3 long haired shouting guy chasing him). I certainly would not be offended if someone wanted info on my mount, even if they followed me for a while to get it. But I wonder what the consensus of the list is. I guess, being that we're on the list, that we're probably more "into" it than average, so it's possible the results would be pretty skewed. Hopefully he'll join the list and we can ask him. :) -Jason Grant 94 PC Pat McNew wrote: > > I followed him about five miles till he stopped at his girl friend's > house and introduced my self. He rides his to work every night. He -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Recruiting To: Honda Pacific Coast Group Pat- Good work! For your efforts, I'll pick up next years subscription costs for this list! ;) But seriously, the more people on the list, the better it is for everyone! I love it when I tell someone about the list and see them sign up a few days later... I can't tell you how much this list has contributed to making motorcycling more enjoyable for me. John ---Pat McNew wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > I took a little spin this afternoon. I stopped and bought my third tank > of gas. (163 miles on 3.3 gallons) As I was pulling out of the station > what should appear but a 89 PC800. This was the first other one I have > seen on the road since I got mine. > > I followed him about five miles till he stopped at his girl friend's > house and introduced my self. He rides his to work every night. He > gets off at 2:00 AM. He bought his used for $2500 about a year ago from > a lady that had not ridden it in over a year. > > He had not heard about the list and he does have web access. I told him > how to find us. I hope he signs up. > > Pat McNew > 96 PC800 395 (s)miles > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:38:59 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve & Diane Scudder " To: "PC800 Listserve" Subject: PC800: Getting better every mile! Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:36:47 -0400 Hello all, Just a short note on my impressions so far of my 97 PC800 ( as of yet unnamed-any suggestions? ): Went out 2-up today w/Diane. A bit windy out, but nice day(70F!). As the miles add up, this bike just gets better and better. Still can't take it above 6K RPM, but I'm very impressed with it's almost seamless power and smoothness. We had a 30 MPH head-wind at one point today for approximately 10 miles. The bike was rock solid all the way to 90 MPH! When I inquired via the Chatterbox intercom as to what her impression of our speed, stability, etc.. was, she replied " oh, about 60, very comfy, etc...". She couldn't believe we were doing 90 mph! Of course she can't see the gauges or any of the front of the bike ( 5'0" tall, a real munchkin ). Love it, love it, love it! Can't wait to finally get it fully broken in and see how well it handles in the twisties 1-up. Take care all, and ride safe ( remember to have eagle-eyes and practice all you've learned previously before doing 90 or anything near it like I did today. Especially 2-up! ). Steve Scudder greyhound@bizgroup.net How could you not LOVE a Greyhound?! 97 PC800 922(S)miles Grand Rapids, MI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Dave Partington" To: , "Tom Ambrosio" Subject: Re: PC800: Noise Filter Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:24:14 -0700 Here is some general information that may help eliminate ignition noise. 1. Allways use resistor type spark plugs, I dont know a good part numbers, but this is a very important noise suppresor. Im sure any Auto parts house can give a exact replacement for the PC-800. Resistor plugs will not effect performance or gas consumption. 2. Never use solid wire high performace spark plug wires, these act as great transmitters. The best plug wires for noise suppression are carbon based. 3. Run power direct to the battery through a fuse and noise filter, If you go to a good electronics supply house (not radio shack) you can buy in-line chokes, its a good idea to put these at your power source and close to the power input for the radio/intercom. Also ferrite snap on chokes help as well. If anyone wants more info on in line chokes, Im sure I can find a good source. The purpose of a RF Choke is simply to filter off the emmission riding on top of the power cable. Even though I did not say use radio shack, the chokes they have are fine but 500% overpriced. One last tid bid on Chokes, you can also use a standard transformer and run your power through the primary side or secondary side, Just look at the transformers Amp rating and dont exceed it, normally the secondary can handle half the current as the primary. If anyone needs this explained better, contact me direct E-mail. 4. On your Headsets and mic cables, it would be a great idea to also put small snap on ferrite chokes. 5. If possible solder all your power connections and seal them really good from moisture. The best method I have found is "liquid tape" It comes in a small can for about 6 bucks and works better than anything I have ever used, I even used these stuff to seal underwater power connections. It does not crack or flake. Most hardware stores carry it, comes in lots of colors. If anyone want exact name and source e-mail me. take care -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChuckQdini Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:17:06 EDT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC toolkit Hello the list: Does anyone have an extra Honda toolkit that I might buy? My used 89 did not come with one. I have the "by-piece" list from the owner's manual and could buy them from Sears, but would rather have the stock k