********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: REMCOBOB Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:48:28 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Subscriber Name: Bob Morrison Location: Jackson, Mississippi Email: remcobob@aol.com PC Model year: 1989 Bought Used: 20,000 miles Modifications: None -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:10:58 -0500 From: Dave Bartlett To: Pacific Coast Mailing List Subject: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Has anyone seen.... Kriss' Amp-U-Tron which is a digital amp, volt & temperature meter. It is made for a 'Wing, but I was wondering if it will work on a PC? Has someone tried it? Does someone have one that they can try? I talked to the company, and they said that they don't know if it will or not, because of interference from the alternator. I am not sure if I want to put down $200 and and then find out it is worthless. I am going to call a local dealer and see if they have one I can test out. The website for Kriss is www.kriss.com. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 323; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:23:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:24:59 -0500 From: "Douglas Ford" To: REMCOBOB CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Subscriber Bob, Welcome to the list. I'm quite certain you'll enjoy the benefits of it. I know I have!! I consider this the "great melting pot of information" for my PC. Enjoy. Doug Ford Odenton, MD REMCOBOB wrote: > > Name: Bob Morrison > Location: Jackson, Mississippi > Email: remcobob@aol.com > PC Model year: 1989 > Bought Used: 20,000 miles > Modifications: None > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:39:08 -0500 From: Dave Bartlett To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: Pacific Coast Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 02:10:15PM -0800, Bryce Ulrich wrote: -> -> Dislikes: -> The AMP-U-Tron is totally designed for Wings. You'll have to find a good -> mounting location on other bikes. The angled display makes that tough -> though. I can live with that... -> Case2: The Amp-U-Tron isn't functioning perfectly. When the bike is running -> the display jumps every couple of seconds from a normal reading to something -> not even close. When the engine isn't running it's fine. For example, with -> air temp it might read 68.4 degrees for 2 seconds, jump down to 12 degrees -> for a moment and then back to 68.4 or so. Same for Volts and Amps. The -> thing just doesn't sit still. When I called Kriss about it they were -> concerned until I said I had it mounted on an ST1100. They immediately said -> it wasn't made for it and they suspected that the bike might have a wildly -> fluctuating electrical system (that throws the meter off) or a lot of -> ignition noise. Before I called I checked both of these theories with a -> Fluke meter (system is rock steady on amps/volts) and I can report no -> ignition noise on the J&M CB and walkman setup. Heck the bike's equipped -> with an ABS computer so I'm sure Honda took the time to quiet and tame the -> electrical system to safeguard things. My personal theory is that the unit -> is defective and the defect doesn't appear until the unit is receiving more -> than 14 volts. I countered with this argument to the Kriss people but they -> largely ignored it. As soon as they heard I wasn't on a Wing they stopped -> caring about ensuring their product was functioning and their customer was -> satisfied. We finally ended the call saying I'd check the system more -> thoroughly with the Fluke testing equipment and if I really felt it was a -> defective unit I'd sent it back for a replacement. They said OK. Since -> then I've learned to live with it. It's annoying but I still get the info I -> need and I put up with it. Because it's so integrated into the bike with -> other equipment (a different and lengthy story) it's not something I can -> easily remove and send back. Come later this winter we'll take the time to -> really test it out with the test equipment and probably crosswire it to -> another bike (a Wing of course). This is what they were saying. The said that the filter in the unit was designed for Wings. It filters out a specific wavelength that Wings have. It is very tempting... I added am amplifier and speakers recently, and I would like to add driving lights. I wouldn't feel safe adding driving lights unless I had an amp meter. I may order one... I'll sleep on it. - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:36:27 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: site update Hi All! I just realized that there's an easier way to address our site. Both http://www.hypermart.net/sccprc and http://scpcrc.hypermart.net will work. Apparently, Hypermart enabled subdomains for their site. Smart move IMHO. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Dave Bartlett'" , Pacific Coast Mailing List Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:10:15 -0800 Hi Dave, I have the Amp-U-Tron installed on my ST1100. The unit is slick and installs fairly easily though on an ST w/ABS it's a tight fit getting the components to fit. On a PC800 there's plenty of room. However I so have a concern about mounting the LCD display. It's totally designed to fit on a Wing next to the ignition key. It's angled for optimal viewing provided the unit is mounted almost horizontally. On a PC800 the logical place to put the display is in one of the speaker cutouts. Because of the angled display that really wouldn't work in this case (it would be pointing down). I would suggest either the left pocket cover or someplace nearby. The unit is sealed and can take the weathering no problem. Likes: It really does work and provides the information I need to know. Amps, volts, and air temp (my favorite). Visibility day or night is fine. On long trips it's something to play with. From a practical sense it helps to make sure I don't drain the battery while running my heated grips, CB, vest, and driving lights. So far I haven't exceeded the limits but sometimes at idle I'm draining the system. I also purchased 2 other Kriss products. I really like the hazard flashers and brake light flasher (hot shots is the name). Both I feel are invaluable safety accessories. Dislikes: The AMP-U-Tron is totally designed for Wings. You'll have to find a good mounting location on other bikes. The angled display makes that tough though. KRISS has lousy customer service. I have been patient with them thus far but I'm close to losing it. Case1: I had a bad 4-way flasher from them that I sent back for service. After a month, I called them only to discover they had lost it. While on the phone we found it and 10 days later it finally arrived. Apparently the paperwork got separated from the unit. Now in my opinion, someone should have noticed the papers (they had no trouble finding that while on the phone) were aging. They should have taken the time (and courtesy) to call me and explain the problem and work towards resolution. They didn't. Heck, the unit was cheap enough they should have just sent me a new one and taken the loss. Also I was amazed that I never once heard them apologize for the error even after I voiced my concerns over the long delay and the fact that it took my phone call to rectify the situation. Had I not called who knows how long I would have waited. Case2: The Amp-U-Tron isn't functioning perfectly. When the bike is running the display jumps every couple of seconds from a normal reading to something not even close. When the engine isn't running it's fine. For example, with air temp it might read 68.4 degrees for 2 seconds, jump down to 12 degrees for a moment and then back to 68.4 or so. Same for Volts and Amps. The thing just doesn't sit still. When I called Kriss about it they were concerned until I said I had it mounted on an ST1100. They immediately said it wasn't made for it and they suspected that the bike might have a wildly fluctuating electrical system (that throws the meter off) or a lot of ignition noise. Before I called I checked both of these theories with a Fluke meter (system is rock steady on amps/volts) and I can report no ignition noise on the J&M CB and walkman setup. Heck the bike's equipped with an ABS computer so I'm sure Honda took the time to quiet and tame the electrical system to safeguard things. My personal theory is that the unit is defective and the defect doesn't appear until the unit is receiving more than 14 volts. I countered with this argument to the Kriss people but they largely ignored it. As soon as they heard I wasn't on a Wing they stopped caring about ensuring their product was functioning and their customer was satisfied. We finally ended the call saying I'd check the system more thoroughly with the Fluke testing equipment and if I really felt it was a defective unit I'd sent it back for a replacement. They said OK. Since then I've learned to live with it. It's annoying but I still get the info I need and I put up with it. Because it's so integrated into the bike with other equipment (a different and lengthy story) it's not something I can easily remove and send back. Come later this winter we'll take the time to really test it out with the test equipment and probably crosswire it to another bike (a Wing of course). I'm annoyed that I feel I've got to prove the defect (or design defect). I see it all as a as a challenge at this point -- winning and proving I'm right is something I rather enjoy. \"/ If these guys weren't the only game it town I'd have walked a long time ago. However, I feel I need their equipment for safe and trouble-free endurance riding so I've stuck it out thus far. As always, this is my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "PC800 (E-mail)" , "HSTA (E-mail)" , "ST1100 (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Back from a wonderful Fall vacation.. Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:59:53 -0800 Hey I'm back now. Trip report by the end of the week I hope. The skinny: 7200 miles (875 yesterday from San Jose), a dozen National Parks and Monuments, 6 States, 5 days of Las Vegas tradeshow fanfare, 4 weeks out of the office, 3 sets of relatives, 2 death-wish lectures by the local troopers without citation, a pair of worn-out motorcycle tires, 1.5 days of rain and some snow, 1 persistent bear looking for food in Yosemite, temps ranging from 20-80 degrees, and finally over 150 pictures of some of the most unbelievably beautiful country in the Southwest USA. Besides all that I got some good time to think and sleep. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 2 Dec 1997 00:33:26 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Vincent Santamaria" , "PC 800 Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:29:34 -0500 Hasen't the Concours been dropped from Kawasaki's line? This may be a consideration. ---------- > From: Vincent Santamaria > To: PC 800 Pacific Coast > Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides > Date: Thursday, November 27, 1997 7:30 PM > > My vote is for the Concours. It is a proven bike and the windshield > buffeting can be fixed with stealth edging or an aftermarket shield. I > never found the vibrations on the Concours to be that bad. Plus the $5,000 > difference is major. > > Let us know what your friend decides. > > Vince in Fort Myers,FL > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'johanlai@concentric.net'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Las Vegas Trip report Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:29:22 -0800 Nice pictures. I was there working in the Microsoft booth all week doing demos of the Handheld PC 2.0 (those small pocket computers). I saw y'all ride by one morning and turn towards the Sands Convention center. Sorry I wasn't on email most of Nov while on vacation 'else I would have tried to hook up with you during that week. Maybe next year. The Phillips booth was way over the top as were so many others. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai [SMTP:johanlai@concentric.net] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 1997 11:52 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Las Vegas Trip report Hi All, I've got our trip report to Las Vegas ready. It's at our SCPCRC site under "Scheduled Rides". I'm practicing lacing text around pictures so it looks more like an article. Give it a looksy when you have time. Thanks! http://www.hypermart.net/scpcrc Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:29:52 +0800 (HKT) Hi listers! > Has anyone seen.... Kriss' Amp-U-Tron which is a digital amp, volt & > temperature meter. It is made for a 'Wing, but I was wondering... While every Wingers highly recommanded Kriss products, AmpUTron, headlight modulators and other Wing electronic add-ons, I am using an aftermarket one, for both of my Wings, and planning to put one to my '90 PC800, right after my trip to LA and San Francisco next week. It sizes 4.5" x 1", with dual back-lite LCD display providing voltage & clock/counter readings. No Amp readings. The voltage part is 12/24V automatic switchable, with 3 additional LED (red, amber, green) for quick check of battery status while riding at night. Also a bar battery status display, 12/24V indicator. The closk is 12/24h selectable, the counter features stopwatch, single event timing and lap counting. There is a slide switch on left side which selects the display of clock or timer, and 2 large start/stop on top. And the most important thing is they are accurate. I got 3, and checked with a Fluke DMM (re-calibrated recently) and their tolerences are all within 0.1-0.2V. I also found a trimmer resistor to calibrate the volt meter thro' a small hole at the back side of it covered by a velcro. Oops, I almost forget to mention the price, it is HK$126 (US$16.15), too cheap to believe? Yes, because here is Hong Kong! Hey So.Ca listers, if you're closed to Los Angeles and interested to get one, let me know and I am more than happy to bring you some, as I'll travel to LA and San Francisco between Dec 12-17. Any activities and gathering during that time? See U around 101 and I5! -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * Vice Chairman, Safe Riders (HK) Association * * GWRRA Hong Kong Chapter (proposed) * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:31:08 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Test Rides Hello Bernie. Allow me to respond from my limited experience: At 13:42 11/27/97 -0500, you wrote: >... The Boxer power plant first appeared >in the nineteen twenties, and the Concours' design is entering its second >generation. True, the BMW boxer _configuration_ has been around for quite a while, but the new "oilhead" is pretty much brand new. I quote a brief description from MCN: "The air-and-oil-cooled motor displaces 1085cc, with four valves per cylinder operated by mid-mounted cams with short pushrods and forked rocker arms. Two oil pumps hide inside the 259's cases. A high-volume, low-pressure pump feeds the oil cooler and helps keep the temperature under control, while a low-volume, high-pressure pump takes care of lubrication... ... A Bosch Motronic fuel injection system feeds the Boxer's internal fire while a fully-controlled catalytic converter in the stainless steel exhaust system keeps emissions at a minimum." That is just the engine. When you take into account the second generation ABS, Telelever and Paralever suspension systems, the Connie starts to sound positively primitive (No offense Ramin) >The BMW R1100 replaces the unsuccessful R850. The R850 was a showroom >fixture in the US. Both the 1100 and the 850 were on sale concurrently. The 1100 soldiers on. No surprise, since the only differences were 1)Displacement, 2)Final drive ratio (to make up for the drop in horsepower) and 3)ABS was optional, not standard, which some rider saw as a bonus. >The Coucours is one of the few bikes, that out of the box, without extensive after >market accessories and replacements is a confident sports tourer. True. >I believe the care and feeding of a Concours would exceed the >demands of the Pacific Coast, but be far less costly than a ST 1100. Really? The ST has the cylinder heads right where you can access them (so does the BMW, BTW) With the Concours you really need to get in there in tight quarters. Does it have a spin-on oil filter? Not sure there. What else were you considering as "care and feeding" that would be that much more expensive? You also mention that your friend dislikes vibration, and that you found the Connie smooth at 80+ on top gear. Realistically, what percentage of the total "owner experience" will it spend at that sweet spot? Will it be enough to offset the times that it does vibrate? I am not trying to convince you or your friend one way or another, just my $0.02 as devil's advocate :-) Both are excellent bikes, and I would love to have either one (as a second bike, of course). The Connie IS an excellent deal -Rated #1 in Value by MCN when it was still retailing for $9K. And to quote something Cory said when he heard the price of the then-new R100RT: "The BMW is a good motorcycle, but it is _not_ twice as good as the PC!" Good luck on your decision guys! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:52:15 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PC 800 Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:43:21 -0500 Mike, The Concours is still available. Vince ---------- > From: Mike Whited > To: Vincent Santamaria ; PC 800 Pacific Coast > Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides > Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 8:29 PM > > Hasen't the Concours been dropped from Kawasaki's line? This may be a > consideration. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:47:39 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai To: "'johanlai@concentric.net'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'Bryce Ulrich'" Subject: RE: PC800: Las Vegas Trip report Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:52:25 -0800 Thanks! We'll definitely be back there next year. Not that we like COMDEX but the trip out is most of the fun. I think we were the only motorcycles there, let alone the only PC's on the strip. We did see some on Sat just as we were leaving, but they're probably just arriving for the weekend. We'll definitely hook up next year! Johan ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich[SMTP:bryceu@MICROSOFT.com] Sent: Monday, December 01, 1997 5:29 PM To: 'johanlai@concentric.net'; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Las Vegas Trip report Nice pictures. I was there working in the Microsoft booth all week doing demos of the Handheld PC 2.0 (those small pocket computers). I saw y'all ride by one morning and turn towards the Sands Convention center. Sorry I wasn't on email most of Nov while on vacation 'else I would have tried to hook up with you during that week. Maybe next year. The Phillips booth was way over the top as were so many others. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 20:27:17 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, *DAVES PC Email List <*DAVES PC Email List@halcyon.com> Subject: PC800: Note from Neill!! New WWW site!!! HI ALL! I got the following note from Neill. I'd love for us to collectively take over to reorganize the PC800 web site. For those of you who haven't seen it, there's a tentative layout/design at www.halcyon.com/dkgross/pc800usa. This was done by Mark Skrocki and Gerard D. It's VERY close to being completed and just needs some fine tuning and HTML work. The So.Cal PC group has there page hosted by a place called Hypermart (http://www.hypermart.net/home.html). It's free! We just have to let them put some ad banners on the pages... I think it may be a good solution if we can't find other server space. Soooo...all of you who've shown interested in helping with this project before, please email me. We need to get the FAQ done and a few other things organized. Hopefully I'll be getting a ZIP from Neill with the old pages and pictures on it. I'll be glad to organize this stuff as much as I can, but my HTML leaves a lot to be desired. I can do a limited amount with Pagemill... let me know gang! Dave ************ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: checkin in Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:18:36 -0500 (EST) From: NThompso@aol.com To: dkgross@halcyon.com Yeah, I'm still here. I started a new job a couple of months ago and I don't have the spare time I once did. :-( I haven't been reading the list server or nuttin. What is the web page status. I am thinking of ditching AOL sometime soon. I would like to give the group an opportunity to grab any pics, text, or html from there before I do though. I don't have any immediate plans or urgency but it is something I'm thinking about. If there is a new quasi offical PC800 web page, let me know. Thanks. PS. I am still riding daily (26K and climbing). -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:46:08 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Advice wanted - Corbin seat To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Howdy, Bram! You wrote... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dana: I response to Steve Johnson's suggestion, I'm turning to you for guidance= =2E I'm trying to learn whether a Corbin seat for my '94 PC800 is a worthwhi= le $300+ investment. I've only been riding since August, '96 and am but 65 i= n tooth. I've put nearly 15,000 miles on the PC since I bought it in Feb, 97. My problem is that on long rides I find I'm good for the first 120 or so= miles, then I need a walk around about each 60-80 miles after that. I kn= ow I can't expect the comfort of a dresser, but I'd like at least to be able t= o ride between refueling stops without the need of a half-hour break half way. The members of the touring club to which I belong seem not to view my la= ck of an iron butt with any problem, but, still, would the Corbin seat impro= ve my lower-end stamina; if not, what would? I have, by the bye, purchased = a set of the Travelcade jell cushions ( at nearly twice what JC Whitney charges, I later discovered), but they proved to be an expensive failure.= = How would I contact the HSTA PCers for an answer? Equally, what advice might you offer? Thanks, in advance Bram Lerner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D It's difficult to say whether you would like the Corbin seat. It is fairl= y expensive, but I would not want to go back to a stock seat. I have had my= Corbin seat for several years, and like it first-rate (I am 64). It is no= t soft..it is slightly lower, but slightly wider, for a small gain in lowering seat height. It is shaped to fit your butt, rather than shaped opposite to your butt, as with the stock seat. I bought the backrest, but= now cannot use it, as I have installed a GiVi rack and 50-litre top box. = Another consideration for me is the improvement in appearance. With the Corbin seat my bike looks more like a motorcycle and less like a scooter with the stock seat. Hopefully you'll get other replies from HSTA PCers. And...I'll put your message and my reply on the PC list server. Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 07:32:18 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: PC List Subject: Re: PC800: Advice wanted - Corbin seat Dana L. Sawyer wrote: > I response to Steve Johnson's suggestion, I'm turning to you for guidance. > I'm trying to learn whether a Corbin seat for my '94 PC800 is a worthwhile > $300+ investment. I've only been riding since August, '96 and am but 65 in > tooth. I've put nearly 15,000 miles on the PC since I bought it in Feb, > 97. You might want look at Russell before deciding. I had one on my BMW K75 and was quite satisfied and I will be getting one for the PC. Regards, Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by mrin38.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA25662 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:40:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:40:09 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Advice wanted - Corbin seat I have a 1994 PC with 37K on the odometer. I can say, without equivocation that a Corbin Saddle is a necessary for a long distance rider on a PC. The Corbin will eliminate "hard ass syndrome." It takes a few weeks to break the saddle in, but the Corbin will change the feeling of your bike. The other necessity to turn the PC into a comfortable long distance runner is a Rifle Wind Screen. The original equipment wind screen is an abortion. Behind a Rifle you can actually hear the engine run at 5,000 rpm. A couple of other after market accessories you may want to consider are a GiVi Top Case and any good throttle control device. I have a Throttle Meister, but there are a number of other controls at half or one third the price that do the same thing. I like the Throttle Meister for its esthetic value. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:34:26 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "HondaPacificCoastOwners" , "HSTA Postings to List" Subject: Re: PC800: Advice wanted - Corbin seat Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:26:35 -0500 I have a Corbin on my 1990 PC and am very happy with it. You sit lower and a little futher back. Some break in is required. The other option is the Russell Day Long. Does anyone have a Russell on their PC. Vince In Fort Myers,FL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:24:43 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Vincent Santamaria" , "PC 800 Pacific Coast" Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 07:13:32 -0500 But is it still manufactured by Kawasaki? My friend has a '94 and he said it was discontinued? To some people this may be a concern. Personally I wish I would of bought my PC while they were dropped by Honda. I saw new ones as low as $3200. ---------- > From: Vincent Santamaria > To: PC 800 Pacific Coast > Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides > Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 8:43 PM > > Mike, The Concours is still available. Vince > ---------- > > From: Mike Whited > > To: Vincent Santamaria ; PC 800 Pacific > Coast > > Subject: Re: PC800: Test Rides > > Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 8:29 PM > > > > Hasen't the Concours been dropped from Kawasaki's line? This may be a > > consideration. > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 22:53:57 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: HPCE Gerard Subject: PC800: Greetings >From all of us at: Honda Pacific Coast Europe We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year And may we look forward to a great 1998 Pacific Coast riding season. Gerard Diepeveen, HPCE -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 12:59:19 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Still in the dark? For those of you who still think there are too few choices on auxiliary lights for your PC, check these babies out: http://www.saeng.com/catalog/products_80.html I got the tip/address from the VX800 list. Enjoy! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 16:12:54 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Still in the dark? Juan A. Goula wrote: > > For those of you who still think there are too few choices on auxiliary > lights for your PC, check these babies out: > > http://www.saeng.com/catalog/products_80.html > > I got the tip/address from the VX800 list. Enjoy! > > Juan Nice lights, but I don't think more poor PC could hanlde anymore!! :( But, then again....................................... Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pilewis1@concentric.net'" , "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Still in the dark? Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:27:24 -0800 This talk about driving lights reminds me of an interesting observation I had on my recent trip in the Southwest. My ST1100 is equipped with 110 watt PIAA driving lights, the pencil spots model to be more precise. They are mounted underneath the mirrors, are aimed straight down the road, and can only be used when there is no oncoming traffic. Anyhow, while riding through one particular long straight section of road in "Nowhere, NV", I noticed I was regularly seeing something reflective way off in the distance. As I was concentrating on looking for animals (mice is all I generally saw on this trip), it took be a bit to realize that the far off reflector was actually the next mile marker. A short time later I noticed that I could see, from a mile away, each of these mile markers. I was surprised having never realized the lights where that powerful. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:01:02 -0800 From: Alan Taylor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: W/S mod. Hi All ! For a long time, I've been disatisfied with the lack of coverage the Rifle W/S gives to the hands. So I decided to start experimenting. I'm in the prototype stage now with a pair of wings added to the Rifle at mirror height. I'm currently using Lexan sheet, the same thickness as the shield. that's proving to be a little too flexible, so in later versions, i'll try Lucite or polycarbonate, all available at my local Home Depot. (If you aren't familiar with it, that's a chain of very large hardware stores) I cut the pieces to extend about 8 inches above the mirror and out to the mirror ends. They're fastened between the base plate and shield at the first shield screw. This was to allow me to angle them up anddown during trials, and to avoid the problem of following the base plate curve. One wing is bent to follow the angle of the mirror, the other is parallel to the chord of the arc of the W/S, or perpendicular to the plane of the wheels. The Wing that's swept to follow the mirrors doesn't do as good a job of blocking the wind as the other. Both wings are bent back at the top at 45 deg. I may lessen that angle to a rounding of the top edge. Forming the Lexan was a problem since I have no power in my garage, and had to use a small butane torch. The result was some melted spots, but I found I could shape the part that extends below the shield to follow the shape of the base plate. The results have been much better than expected. I've ridden with these on streets and highways for 3 days now, and there's been no effect on handling or interference with visibility. Only a gentle breeze reaches my hands at highway speeds. That seems to be coming up from the vents to the fingertips. At this point, I don't know the impact on fuel consumption, but it should be minimal. the surface area is about the same as the difference between the short and tall shields. My main concern was with blocking rain, but this should make life much more pleasant for you northern riders. If you want to try this with the Honda shield, it should work, but the different mounting will mean a lot more effort. Some ideas i'm still playing with for this are: Using a bigger piece, and tapering out a curve from about half W/S height to the mirror ends. And anchoring at 2 screw holes instead of one. If anyone is interested, let me know and i'll forward some pictures of it to Johan for posting on the SCPCRC picture page. Alan Taylor 95 PC800 "Midnight" Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA03726 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:29:20 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 20:25:33 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: PC800: Corbin Seat Advice I'm planning to order a Russell Day-Long Saddle. Pricing is a little higher than the Corbin, but the seat is custom made and satisfaction guaranteed. I won't be getting it until sometime in the spring, but I'll post my opinions after a good long ride. My rides were limited by a numb right arm until I put on the Vista Cruise throttle control; now I am limited by the seat, which is a much more expensive fix. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:54:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , "Greg Chambers" Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat Advice Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:50:57 -0500 Greg, On extended touring I,ve had my right hand go numb after the first few days. On a three weeker it acually started to swell! Could you tell me a little about your throttle lock? I had one in the '70's but I'm sure that style wouldn't work on a PC without modification. Are there any makes for sale that will work out of the package? Any info or suggestions is appriciated. ---------- > From: Greg Chambers > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Corbin Seat Advice > Date: Thursday, December 04, 1997 11:25 PM > > I'm planning to order a Russell Day-Long Saddle. Pricing is a little higher > than the Corbin, but the seat is custom made and satisfaction guaranteed. I > won't be getting it until sometime in the spring, but I'll post my opinions > after a good long ride. My rides were limited by a numb right arm until I > put on the Vista Cruise throttle control; now I am limited by the seat, > which is a much more expensive fix. > > Greg Chambers > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: MikeTW@worldnet.att.net cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:14:46 -0600 Subject: PC800: Throttle lock You can check out the PC Europe web site. They have a good pic and how it works for one brand of control called ThrottleMeister. http://www.denver.net/~agray/ The above is the American mirror of the European web site. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "Mike Whited" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat Advice Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:02:09 -0600 Mike, I have the Throttlemiester lock on my 90 PC. It works out of the package without any modifications. The web site you were directed to which shows the throttle lock are pictures of my bike. If you have any additional questions, just e-mail. They are a little expensive - about $125.00. There is a full write up in the archieves about the product. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" > Could you tell me a little about your throttle lock? > Are there any makes for sale that will work out of the package? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA05485; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 19:19:11 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 17:15:11 -0800 To: "Mike Whited" From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Control Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 06:50 AM 12/5/97 -0500, you wrote: >Greg, >Could you tell me a little about your throttle lock? I had one in the '70's >but I'm sure that style wouldn't work on a PC without modification. >Are there any makes for sale that will work out of the package? > Mike - I have a VistaCruise, which will work essentially out of the box. It cost about $20, and simply wraps around the handlebar inside the right grip. The only mod necessary is that there is an L-shaped plastic tab that needs to be chopped down so it isn't L-shaped (10-second job). Then you put a screw through the tab into the plastic handlebar cover, and you're done. It works by putting friction on the throttle, of course. Some riders have had to cut off a piece of the grip to make room, but mine fit fine. Another alternative is a ThrottleMeister, which is super-nice and costs much more. I haven't seen one, but people have raved about them. I went for the $20 VistaCruise and am very happy. Good Luck - Greg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:31:57 EST To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com, MikeTW@worldnet.att.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle lock Also check our archives for more discussion about ThrottleMeister. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:00:34 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Control Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:53:02 -0500 I have the same VistaCruise on my PC with the same attachment. Works fine. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Mike - I have a VistaCruise, which will work essentially out of the box. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:04:20 -0800 From: Lee Keetle To: ka2wij@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: windshield mods Just want to help with some info. Lexan is Polycarbonate... and it is very difficult to thermoform. Injection molders using Lexan operate at MORE than 480 degrees and still difficulty with thermal degredation vs viscosity. Lucite (Acrylic) has lower molding temps around 425. A long quartz rod heater works marvelous! Torches will always screw up your plastic. A hydrogen torch is the only flame alternative, and since the flame is very hot and invisible... disasters tend to happen. Such a torch is often used to polish edges after sanding them down. I was thinking about installing little wings too, but the bike is so nice looking I feel apprehensive about experimenting with it since something always goes wrong in the end. This often happens even after I appear to have hit upon a good design. Things fall apart, corrode, go milky with moisture absorbtion, and on and on! (And I'm supposed to be a Manufacturing Engineer...) We just don't have access to the best materials in the Home Warehouses. Good stuff is hard to locate and then costs a fortune in small qty. Aww heck, I've got to get up for work at 4 am (Sat.) and drive the PC to work over frosty roads to Boeing in Everett WA. I was just looking through the archives for recommended heated grips. Not much luck with brands. Guess I'll have to go shopping. -Lee Keetle '95 PC commuter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:30:55 -0800 From: Philip Lewis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Cruise Controls Okay, everybody with the Vista Cruise, raise your hands! |||| |||| ---- Oh well, I can't seem to draw a raised hand, but I've had one for a couple of years and couldn't live without it. A great deal and simple and, as you all said, only about 20 bucks. Phil Mission Viejo (Where is that MISSION, anyway!!??) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA04481 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 02:27:39 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 00:23:21 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat Discussion I knew I had this saved somewhere. Thanks to Roger Prince. =20 >To: Douglas Ford >Cc: Pacific Coast Mailing List >Subject: Re: PC800: Suggestions? > >Douglas, > >Try Russell "Day Long" saddles. > >1. > Russell "Day-Long" Saddles > 99% > Have You Noticed, More Touring Class Motorcycle Riders are >Using "Day-Long"=AE Touring Saddles Than Ever > Before? It's Probably Because of These Major Benefits: >Personalized Fit For Optimum Driver and Passenger > Comfort More Support, Equalized Weight... > http://www.day-long.com/, 3158 bytes, 20Aug97 > >Roger Prince > > > >Douglas Ford wrote: > >> Question for you long-time PC veterans........ >> >> Is there a company that makes a saddle for the PC that resembles the one >> on the Gold Wing in looks and comfort? Thanks much. >> >> Doug >> >> > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Re: PC800: Cruise Controls To: pilewis1@concentric.net Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 18:27:58 +0800 (HKT) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Okay, everybody with the Vista Cruise, raise your hands! > > |||| > |||| > ---- Another Phil here, from Hong Kong. I have 2 Vistas, on my '84 GL1200A and the '90 PC800. My comment? Needless to say... -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * Vice Chairman, Safe Riders (HK) Association * * GWRRA Hong Kong Chapter (proposed) * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 09:33:26 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 09:16:55 -0500 From: Bernie Subject: PC800: Something New To: PC 800 Pacific Coast There is a new form of transportation being developed. It has nothing = to do with motorcycles, but riders seem always to be interested in high = tech and fast vehicles. This new vehicle is called a Flair Craft. A = Flair Craft is a hybrid between a boat and an airplane. It is designed = to ride on a cushion of air 3 to 15 feet above the water or land it is = passing over. It is powered by a pusher type air plane propeller, and = can maintain cruising speeds in excess of 100 mph. Its fuel consumption = is less than that of car, plane or boat because it encounters very little= = resistence. I have been interested in Flairs since first seeing one. A few years = ago, when I was running a boat between Fort Lauderdale and Binini across = the Gulf Stream, we were passed by a Flair Craft. We thought it was some= = sort of secret government project. The Flair that passed us was a two = passenger, red and white machine. It went around us like we were going = backwards, and we were running in a Formula that didn't often get passed = by anything. That day the Gulf Stream was running 3 to 5 feet, and we = were getting our eye balls pounded out of us on the boat. The Flair went= = by without a tremble. I don't know the capabilities or limitations of the Flairs, but initial = information indicates a five passenber model will sell for about the same= = as a luxury car. Coupled with GPS, Flairs could revolutionize travel. = Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:03:34 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: electric motorcycle To: pclist Hi all, FYI- http://www.electric-motorbike.com 45 MPH top speed 30 mile range $3600 loaded OK, so it's not a Sport Tourer, but it still looks very cool. (IMHO) John _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: SUZY Q IB Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 19:07:27 EST To: raybob@hiwaay.net, Dana_Sawyer@CompuServe.COM Cc: ldrider@usaa.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, higdon@ironbutt.com Subject: Re: LDRider: Re: PC800: Endurance riding...legal? In a message dated 97-11-25 12:09:09 EST, raybob@hiwaay.net writes: << I take no small umbrage at your insinuation that anyone who participates in these endurance events is an uncontrolled rampaging mad-person >> In reference to the answer by Bob Ray to Dana Sawyer, I would like to add that I agree with Bob's statements to Mr. Sawyer, and feel that - IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT, DON'T KNOCK IT! Just my added opinion. SuzyQ - 97IBR # 6. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 23:20:01 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 23:21:26 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: PC800 Subject: PC800: trailer lights Hello all. I bought a trailer for my PC yesterday. Very cool. I'm not real sure about where would be the best place to wire in the trailer light connecter. Should I just splice into the wires leading to the PC tail lights or is there a better place? Also should the trailer lights have a fuse of it's own? Haven't done any work w/ the wireing on the PC. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank's in advance. James Lubbock, Tx. '90PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:50:27 EST To: greg501@ix.netcom.com, MikeTW@worldnet.att.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Control In a message dated 97-12-05 21:45:48 EST, greg501@ix.netcom.com writes: << I went for the $20 VistaCruise and am very happy. Good Luck - Greg >> Yeah, me too! John in Indy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vfr.bob@juno.com by x10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OWD03667; Sun, 07 Dec 1997 14:14:45 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:15:50 -0600 Subject: PC800: Anybody out there? Just wondering if this list is active ..... Who I am: Bob Mizner Spring, Texas South Texas State Director for Honda Sport Touring Association (HSTA) E-mail address: VFR.BOB@JUNO.COM (sorry, I once foolishly owned a VFR) '90 PC (2nd PC owned, bought November 97 with just 6k miles showing). Previously owned a black 94, which I kept for a year and a half before being seduced by the VFR. When I regained my senses, I went out & found this red 90. Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... Any active PC'ers out there? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:59:17 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 14:55:33 -0500 Lets see, I bet you turned 40 about the time you went for the VFR :-). I went for the VN1500.... Now I'm on a '94 PC that I just put 37,000 miles on. Welcome. Mike Col OH ---------- > From: vfr.bob@juno.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Anybody out there? > Date: Sunday, December 07, 1997 2:15 PM > > Just wondering if this list is active ..... > > Who I am: > > Bob Mizner > Spring, Texas > South Texas State Director for Honda Sport Touring Association (HSTA) > E-mail address: VFR.BOB@JUNO.COM (sorry, I once foolishly owned a > VFR) > '90 PC (2nd PC owned, bought November 97 with just 6k miles showing). > Previously owned a black 94, which I kept for a year and a half before > being seduced by the VFR. When I regained my senses, I went out & found > this red 90. > > Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... > Any active PC'ers out there? > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:57:38 -0600 > Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... > Any active PC'ers out there? Nope. No one here. Quiet as a dead possum in a snowbank. Except for Rocky. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 21:26:22 +0100 To: "Bob Ray" , , From: HPCE Gerard Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? At 13:57 07-12-97 -0600, Bob Ray wrote: >> Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... >> Any active PC'ers out there? > >Nope. No one here. Quiet as a dead possum in a snowbank. >Except for Rocky. He I'm here... ... alive and well in Holland But I don't have a whole lot to talk about, I'm just watching the threads going by. And to Bob Mizner, welcome to the PC800 list from the Honda Pacific Coast Europe in Holland. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacific Coast Rocky Mountain 1998 tour: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/rocky-mountain98-tour.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 13:06:42 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? nope. It's winter. We're all too cold to ride :>) Went out and polished ol' Purl this weekend. Just because. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 13:06:01 -0800 From: Philip Lewis To: vfr.bob@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? vfr.bob@juno.com wrote: > > Just wondering if this list is active ..... > > Who I am: > > Bob Mizner > Spring, Texas > South Texas State Director for Honda Sport Touring Association (HSTA) > E-mail address: VFR.BOB@JUNO.COM (sorry, I once foolishly owned a > VFR) > '90 PC (2nd PC owned, bought November 97 with just 6k miles showing). > Previously owned a black 94, which I kept for a year and a half before > being seduced by the VFR. When I regained my senses, I went out & found > this red 90. > > Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... > Any active PC'ers out there? Glub...Blub....Glub.... I'm here but my '90 PC and I are drowning!! :) I'll write more when I can surface and get more air!!! Phil Lewis So. Cal. In the meantime, check out http://scpcrc.hypermart.net/ and http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/PCRPHOTO.HTM to see what it's like out here when we're not drowniing!!! Happy Riding!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 16:08:34 -0500 From: "R. Thomas (Tom) Blackburn, Jr." To: vfr.bob@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? vfr.bob@juno.com wrote: > > Just wondering if this list is active ..... > __________________________________________________ I'm sitting right here in Louisville, Kentucky . . . I joined the list about 3 weeks ago and have enjoyed the banter. I'm 52, have been riding for 17 years, bougnt a PC 3 months ago, and I don't know whether I will keep it or not . . . my story is short: I bought my first motorcycle (a Honda 750 Super Sport) in 1980. I never got comfortable on that bike - didn't like tip-e-towing at stops and never felt at home on a high-reving inline 4. In 1985 I bought one of the first 1100 Shadows and fell in love, until 1987 when I traded for the new generation 1100 Shadow. The love affair with the Shadow continued until 3 months ago when my passenger and I were sent skidding down the road by a swale hidden in an East Kentucky road by a coal truck. Neither of us was injured in the 50 foot slide, but Shadow was a total wreck. Since I now usually ride with a passenger, I decided to try a sport touring bike. I rode BMWs (R1100RT, K1100, and the new cruiser, the R1100C). I didn't buy. Instead I rode a Valkyrie - liked it, but I didn't buy. Tried a used 750 Magna - I think it had been wrecked - it didn't go down the road straight. Finally, I road - and bought - a 1990, red, PC with less than 5,000 miles. The v-twin engine and the setup of the bike sold me after only a short test ride. Our first long ride was cut short because my passenger was suffering greatly - her open face helment was about to strangle her because of the buffeting from the wind. I replace the stock screen with a Rifle and the buffeting improved, but is still worse than with Shadow. I miss being able to see my engine, and as yet, the sport riding position of the PC is not as comfortable as Shadow. Also, I don't get as much gas pump conversation from strangers as with Shadow. We have ridden about 1,500 miles in 3 months and I am still undecided. I like the power of the Valkyrie, but the rythm of a v-twin. I've ridden big Harleys, and find them too slow and sluggish. Maybe I should try an ST1100 or a VFR or a Super Hawk or one of the 1500 twins from Yamaha or Suzuki . . . or . . .maybe I need two bikes . . . a touring bike and a sport bike. Anybody else had trouble making the change from a v-twin cruiser to a sport tourer?? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 14:20:07 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: ka2wij@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: W/S mod. Alan Taylor wrote: > > Hi All ! > > For a long time, I've been disatisfied with the lack of coverage the > Rifle W/S gives to the hands. So I decided to start experimenting. > I created a page for Alan's modification. It's at http://john.csun.edu/pc/pcphotos/winddefl.htm. Neat idea. See Ya' later, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:23:18 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:13:15 -0500 I don't like to make decisions so I have one of each. 1990 Pacific Coast, 1985 Shadow 1100, 1989 Transalp ( v-twin sorta dual sport), 1981 Goldwing, 1981 CX500. My preferred ride for any distance is the PC. Vince in Fort Myers,FL > Anybody else had trouble making the change from a v-twin cruiser to a > sport tourer?? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:26:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:16:33 -0500 Bob, Welcome to the PC list. This list has it's ups and downs. Been kinda slow lately cause Rocky ran out of rubbers for his throttle lock. I use to camp at Spring, Texas about 30 years ago. Has it grown? Vince in Fort Myers,fl > Just joined the list in December 97 and wondered, .... > Any active PC'ers out there? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA19614 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:43:16 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 18:39:28 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Mike wrote: >Lets see, >I bet you turned 40 about the time you went for the VFR :-). > Gee, I turned 40, then took six years to get up the guts for a PC800? I did, however, sit on a number of sport bikes at the Long Beach Cycle Show today...I think I like my PC just fine. They did, however, have one of the Beemers that the CHP is taking delivery on, and it was quite nice. We'll have to keep our eyes open for Kawasaki's _and_ Beemers now, as they will be hitting the highways any day. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Gross" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:16:28 -0800 Dave's a wimp. I rode yesterday _and_ today. However, Purl now looks prettier than my rain-spattered beast. Steve Gross -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sunday, December 07, 1997 1:00 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? >nope. It's winter. We're all too cold to ride :>) > >Went out and polished ol' Purl this weekend. Just because. > >-- > >Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP >http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:07:18 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: South Carolina Snowman To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List Let me introduce you to a friend of mine...the South Carolina Snowman! Are you familiar with those round balls that have imitation snowflakes th= at swirl around when you shake them? They have various types of decorations inside, usually with a winter or Christmas theme. Well, my South Carolina Snowman has water in it. Floating on the surface = of the water is a black hat, two tiny black scraps for eyes, a carrot for a= nose, a curved stick for a mouth and a tiny pipe! That's all there is to my South Carolina Snowman, who wishes for you the coolest of Yules! Dana Sawyer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:19:08 EST To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Daytona Is anyone on the list thinking of going to Daytona for bike week? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 01:57:48 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 00:58:03 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Daytona BernieK469 wrote: > > Is anyone on the list thinking of going to Daytona for bike week? > Yes... at least thinking about it. Not sure, though. Why do you ask? Got some good deals on rooms or something? Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: test mail, because i have problems to send to this adres Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:24:08 +0100 test1 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: second and last testmail Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:24:43 +0100 test2 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:49:02 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 08:49:29 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Bike Week (Addendum) FYI... Good bike week info at: http://www.daytonachamber.com/bwhome.html Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 08:31:21 EST To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: No, you are not alone Different bikes for different folks. I am 61 years old, and I have been riding since the early nineteen sixties. My first bike was a Black Shadow, followed by a Triumph. After college I was stationed in Panama with the military. In Panama I rode one of the first of the Honda Machines, A Honda 125, and later a 305 Dream. I consider the Pacific Coast one of the best all around machines I have owned. My PC is equipped with a Rifle Wind Screen, a Corbin Seat, a Throttle Meister, and a GiVi Top Case. It is a 1994 model, and I have put about 37K miles on it. If I had my way; I would have a Gold Wing for long distance touring, A BMW for the twisties and a Concours for daily commuting. But, since I can't get all those machines in my garage, I must settle for my PC. Most of my PC's mileage has been by touring, usually with my wife riding double. The PC is not as comfortable as a Gold Wing. My wife complains she can't move around on the PC as she could on a Gold Wing. But PC scoots down the highway easily maintaining 75 or 80 mph. I rode the PC down to Star 1997 in Oklahoma. It couldn't accelerate like a ST1100 out of a corner, but the PC could hold its own leaning through the turns, and none of the ST1100s ever lost me. If there is not ice or snow on the ground I usually do most of my daily commuting on the PC. The PC is a little heavy for a in town bike, but its low center of gravity and excellent balance offsets its weight. The Pacific Coast is not a perfect bike. It could use the power from a larger motor. I would like to see a PC with a 1000 cc engine. The brakes could be improved. Double disks in front, and a single disk in back would bring the PC to a scalding stop. I also think the PC needs better lighting, and a number of other improvements. But it is still the best "all around" bike I have owned. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Throttle Control Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:54:37 -0800 I too use the VistaCruise. Can you believe it? After all that work getting the BMW wrist rest installed, I go and buy a $20 solution that works better! IMHO ;-) Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:10:35 -0500 From: Jason To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Winter This is my first winter since purchasing the PC and I'm going stir crazy! I am self employed and have seriously considered "visiting" friends who live in warmer climes so that I can ship my bike and go riding. I'm normally a pretty stable guy, but I get this funny feeling whenever I think about riding. I hope this winter is as mild on the east coast as has been suggested. Jason -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 09:43:15 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Winter At 13:10 12/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >This is my first winter since purchasing the PC and I'm going stir >crazy! I am self employed and have seriously considered "visiting" >friends who live in warmer climes so that I can ship my bike and go >riding. I'm normally a pretty stable guy, but I get this funny feeling >whenever I think about riding. I hope this winter is as mild on the >east coast as has been suggested. Jason, You have my sympathies. Hang in there. >From someone who KNOWS what Parked Motorcycle Syndrome (PMS) can be like. "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: Re: second and last testmail From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 08 Dec 1997 12:45:35 -0600 Lines: 9 >>>>> "JvV" == Jeroen van Vuure writes: JvV> test2 Folks, please don't send test messages to a mailing list. There's an address on every message to report problems to; there's no point in cluttering the mailboxes of several hundred people. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:52:56 +0100 Hi Bryce Out of one of your mails I understand that you have a CB tranceiver installed on your PC. I have a question about that. How dit you install the CB tranceiver on your PC? Do you have a portable tranceiver that you mounted on your speaker-cut-out or something, or do you have a car CB installed somewhere? And dit you use a antenne that is not directly mounted on your tranceiver and where dit you put it then? I want to install a CB on my PC to, but I don't want to use a portable PC. I want a CB that is also used for cars and put it out of sight somewhere. Somewhere near the stearing bar I want to put a device on witch I can change volume an channels and other things. I think I can make this by rebuilding a car CB tranceiver, but I want as much information of CB's on a PC as I can get. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:02:45 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Week (Addendum) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:55:13 -0500 Gregg, Thanks for the tip. Should we plan a Bike Week get together for the PC nerds? Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > > Good bike week info at: > > http://www.daytonachamber.com/bwhome.html > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:05:51 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Daytona Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:58:22 -0500 I'm going assuming the weather is not too bad. Only five hours for me. I'm even considering the Penguin Racing School ( not on the PC, they have rental bikes). Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Is anyone on the list thinking of going to Daytona for bike week? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Jeroen van Vuure'" , PC800 owners club Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:17:26 -0800 I have a handheld CB that mounts to a metal bracket on the left speaker cutout. It hooks via the belt clip built into the radio. Currently I'm using the stock rubber duck antenna. Power/audio cords are hidden in the bike and come through a gap by the left corner of the windshield where the shield, mirror, and dash come together. Power is supplied from the bike and a push-to-talk button is mounted by the left thumb. It's a radio shack part mounted to a little metal bracket that's screwed to the plastic bar covering next to the left grip. The audio feeds into the audio jack of a Sonic Intercom system that's hidden inside the left pocket. The headset hookup extends through the left pocket lid as well. Mark Reis of MR Communications in Marysville, WA (north of Seattle) did the work. He also did Wanda's bike. However I believe he made a custom bracket for the radio to attach to the clutch master cylinder near the left grip. Mark can be contacted at (425) 335-1296, mrcom@premier1.net , http://www.premier1.net/~mrcom . Mark and I have conspired to do lots of custom communications and electrical work on my PC and ST. He really knows his stuff. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeroen van Vuure [SMTP:vuure@dds.nl] Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 10:53 AM To: PC800 owners club Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Hi Bryce Out of one of your mails I understand that you have a CB tranceiver installed on your PC. I have a question about that. How dit you install the CB tranceiver on your PC? Do you have a portable tranceiver that you mounted on your speaker-cut-out or something, or do you have a car CB installed somewhere? And dit you use a antenne that is not directly mounted on your tranceiver and where dit you put it then? I want to install a CB on my PC to, but I don't want to use a portable PC. I want a CB that is also used for cars and put it out of sight somewhere. Somewhere near the stearing bar I want to put a device on witch I can change volume an channels and other things. I think I can make this by rebuilding a car CB tranceiver, but I want as much information of CB's on a PC as I can get. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:24:14 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:14:19 -0500 Jeroen, I had Sierra Electronics install a CB in my previous 1990 PC. It was mounted in the trunk with a push to talk switch on the handlebars, also had an automatic voice activation system. Was very nice. They are online at http://www.inb.net/sierra . You can get some ideas there. I now have a portable CB that I attach to my belt which can be powered by batteries or 12 volts from the bike. It has a ear speaker and a throat mike with a PTT switch on the cable from the CB that can be velcroed to the handle bars or cliped on your jacket. Since I am now up to five bikes, this system works well for me. Plus you can use it walking around with the internal batteries. Not as much range as a fixed CB but enough for bike to bike talk. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Out of one of your mails I understand that you have a CB tranceiver > installed on your PC. I have a question about that. How dit you install -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m19.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OFX10004; Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:43:53 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vuure@dds.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:41:05 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron From: comaj@juno.com (Jim M SMITH) I purchased a 90 PC last January that has a cycle comm model 1400 which works great, the unit is in the left side bag under what appears to be a homemade cover so it does not takes up all of the side bag There address is Cycle-Comm Corp. 3300 Castle Road Woodstock IL 60098 815 337 0790 E-mail Cyclecomm.com COMAJ@JUNO.COM 90 RED PC,Cycle Comm,Corbin Seat,Honda Tall Windshield,Priority Plus attached to turn signals THE Ozarks/Branson Area -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:02:29 -0600 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Doug A." Subject: PC800: Daytona BernieK469::I am thinking of going to Daytona, just have to verify I have a place to sleep. Have uncle living in Port Orange, waiting for answer from him as we speak. Doug, new to list. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:23:13 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Throttle Control To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 I worked with the folks at Bob's BMW and had them modify the Wrist Rest to properly fit the '90-'97 PC800. Works fine out of the box and is still $80. More expensive than the VistaCruise (which I had on my '86 Nighthawk) but doesn't require any installation related modifications, just tell them the year of your PC800. They still have their original design for the '89 model. I found the VistaCruise to work well for a $12 device (1987 dollars) but it did require periodic adjustment to the toggle clamp to keep it holding over time. Regards, Peter Noeth '96 PC 1500 miles and loving every minuite. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Anybody out there? Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:18:31 -0800 I rode PerlPC into work today for the first time in over 2 months. It felt so strange after riding so much on the ST this summer and fall (20k miles). Felt big if you can believe it. She's polished too but I did have to dust her off first before leaving. \"/ -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Gross [SMTP:slgross@halcyon.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 1997 7:16 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Anybody out there? Dave's a wimp. I rode yesterday _and_ today. However, Purl now looks prettier than my rain-spattered beast. Steve Gross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:40:14 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:40:47 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tire plugging Dear List, I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear tire than I am on the PC's. It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), so I only need to make it last 'til then. I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:59:42 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Hi Gregg, Certainly not a dumb question. When motorcycle tires are at least twice as expensive as auto tires, the question deserves and informed answer. Having said that, I personally would not plug any motorcycle tire for the simple reason that a spare is not an option on 2 wheels. We blow one tire and we're out of commission if not killed, and _very_ lucky to walk away unharmed. I blew a rear tire once and it was not a pleasant experience. I couldn't imagine staying upright had it been the front one. Safety ought to be your paramount concern over economics as a motorcyclist. Having undamaged tires will go a long way to ensuring your safety. I love that Bell helmet ad long ago that said, "you got a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet". Just my $0.02. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > Dear List, > > I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the > members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* > opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but > just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near > the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the > manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler > one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda > dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing > the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear > tire than I am on the PC's. > > It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a > clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it > (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or > losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway > sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), > so I only need to make it last 'til then. > > I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:19:06 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Tire plugging At 17:40 12/8/97 -0800, you wrote: >(Not near the edge; more near >the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the >manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler >one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda >dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing >the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear >tire than I am on the PC's. Gregg, FWIW, here it goes: If you are willing to risk it, minimize the risk. Have the tire taken off, inspected for damage from the inside, and patched from the _inside_. This should minimize the chances for patch failure. As far as comparing the performance of the patch on the Sabre, remember that: a) the PC is heavier, and b) the PC is really bad at heating up the rear tire because it dumps a lot of engine heat directly onto it. As you know, heat is Enemy No.1 with tires. Now, if you take it easy, have the tire repaired by a professional and are going to replace it soon, I'd say go for it, but I sure wouldn't trust it for anything else than "around town." YMMV, IMHO, and all that jazz. Good luck. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id SAA02097 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:33:09 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Daytona Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:08:22 -0500 I went two or three years in a row a number of years back. This was way before I had a "civilized" motorcycle. I was riding a BSA 650 at the time which was a pretty good ride in it's day. Even back then I couldn't stomach all the "bad boy" HOG riders and I doubt that it's any better now if the photos on Bartel's HD website are any indication. After about 30 seconds of that experience you'll never again wonder why Joe Citizen has a bad opinion of motorcyclists! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 [SMTP:BernieK469@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 1997 10:19 PM To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Daytona Is anyone on the list thinking of going to Daytona for bike week? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id SAA02713 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:46:53 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Tire plugging Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:36:02 -0500 Gregg, With tubeless auto tires, the preferred repair method is to remove the tire and place a vulcanizing patch on the inside. I've NEVER had one of these fail. On the other hand, I've had a few car tires plugged too and haven't ever had one of those to fail either. Even if the plug failed, I wouldn't expect a blowout - it might leak down pretty fast though without the offending sheet metal screw to partially obscure the hole. Of course the issue here is that bike shops charge such rip-off prices for mounting tires. If it they charged 5 bucks or so to properly repair a flat (with a patch) like car tires, you could do that and feel pretty good about it. As it is, with the tire near the end of it's useful life, I think I'd lean toward replacing it a bit early. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai [SMTP:jlai@css.filenet.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 6:00 PM To: deselms@royal.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Hi Gregg, Certainly not a dumb question. When motorcycle tires are at least twice as expensive as auto tires, the question deserves and informed answer. Having said that, I personally would not plug any motorcycle tire for the simple reason that a spare is not an option on 2 wheels. We blow one tire and we're out of commission if not killed, and _very_ lucky to walk away unharmed. I blew a rear tire once and it was not a pleasant experience. I couldn't imagine staying upright had it been the front one. Safety ought to be your paramount concern over economics as a motorcyclist. Having undamaged tires will go a long way to ensuring your safety. I love that Bell helmet ad long ago that said, "you got a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet". Just my $0.02. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > Dear List, > > I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the > members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* > opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but > just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near > the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the > manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler > one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda > dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing > the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear > tire than I am on the PC's. > > It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a > clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it > (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or > losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway > sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), > so I only need to make it last 'til then. > > I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:15:17 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Gregg, I have always viewed tire plugging as a temporary fix. As others have already responded, the correct way to fix a tire is from the inside with a patch. I have carried a plug kit on my motorcycles for on the spot flat repair but only to get me to a shop where it can be fixed correctly. I have always heard negative comments on those "fix in a can" devices that fill your wheel with foam goop that supposidly seals the hole. I hear that it may work ok on cars, but it corrodes aluminum wheels and makes a mess out of the inside of the tire. This results in having to have the guy at the shop completely wash the inside of the tire before they can patch it. Considering the amount of flexing a motorcycle tire is subject to, I wouldn't expect a plug to hold pressure for very long. I have had to plug my previous motorcycle's tires twice and it worked just fine until I got it to a shop. The guy just took a pair of pliers and yanked the plug out, then patched it and all was well again. Regards, Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 8 Dec 1997 19:22:00 -0500 From: "Ted Gerarden" Subject: RE: PC800: Tire plugging To: deselms@royal.net, jlai@css.filenet.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I have to agree, having blown a rear tire once in my former life as a carefree youth. But with inflation, you have to have a $25 head nowadays...... _______________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jlai@css.filenet.com on Mon, Dec 8, 1997 6:11 PM Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging To: deselms@royal.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Gregg, Certainly not a dumb question. When motorcycle tires are at least twice as expensive as auto tires, the question deserves and informed answer. Having said that, I personally would not plug any motorcycle tire for the simple reason that a spare is not an option on 2 wheels. We blow one tire and we're out of commission if not killed, and _very_ lucky to walk away unharmed. I blew a rear tire once and it was not a pleasant experience. I couldn't imagine staying upright had it been the front one. Safety ought to be your paramount concern over economics as a motorcyclist. Having undamaged tires will go a long way to ensuring your safety. I love that Bell helmet ad long ago that said, "you got a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet". Just my $0.02. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > Dear List, > > I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the > members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* > opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but > just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near > the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the > manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler > one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda > dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing > the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear > tire than I am on the PC's. > > It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a > clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it > (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or > losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway > sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), > so I only need to make it last 'til then. > > I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAB23952; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:04:15 -0600 (CST) Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:03:50 -0600 (CST) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23933 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:03:43 -0600 (CST) www.css.filenet.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA64954; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) Posted-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:59:42 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 2.0) id 3401300 ; Mon, 08 Dec 1997 20:12:26 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 20:14:35 -0500 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: stator costs Does anyone know what a stator costs for an '89 PC800? Are there other parts that need to be replaced when the stator fails? Scot '89 PC800 13,700 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'scotp1965@mdn.net'" , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: stator costs Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:55:57 -0800 There's potential for the voltage regulator to fail before or at the time the stator fails. In fact if you suspect the stator failed, I'd get both the stator and the regulator checked before ordering parts. In my case, the regulator failed as was putting out less than 13.2 volts and slowly draining the battery while riding. Normal voltage is 14.2 or so and the battery requires 13.2. Both regulator and stator can be checked from the left side of the bike via the air duct opening. The regulator is right there as well as the stator wires. The PC800 Service Manual details the testing procedure using a OHM meter. NOTE: The early PC models have a different regulator than later models. It has a different testing procedure as well so check your manual closely for the correct year. For the interested, Honda lists the newer regulator as an updated part for the PC and it can be put in older models. My '89 has the updated regulator after mine failed last Spring. My dealer caught the switch after reading the fine print in the microfiche. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper [SMTP:scotp1965@mdn.net] Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 5:15 PM To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: stator costs Does anyone know what a stator costs for an '89 PC800? Are there other parts that need to be replaced when the stator fails? Scot '89 PC800 13,700 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:56:48 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: PC800: Web page To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 List, Has anybody noticed that the web page has not been updated since Jan '96? Do we spend all of our time on the list and forget our "front door"? I have seen messages about pictures people have scanned, but they never show up via the web page as I would expect they would, especially if it is revelant to a discussion or showing accessory installation or modification. Who is supposed to maintain the web page? I am sure that there is bound to be some additions/changes in almost a year, especially the items marked "new" that are no longer new. Regards, Peter '96 PC, 1500 miles and loving every minuite -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JBLAV Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:10:30 EST To: scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: stator costs Scott, Go To www. AHMotor.com. They sell Honda automobile parts and accessories as well as motorcycle parts. I have not purchased anything for my PC800 yet. However I did need to replace the struts for my rear tail gate on my 91 Accord Wagon. This place charged me $60.00 for each strut where my local Honda dealer wanted $84.00 each. I just learned about this place recently. After I bought a couple of oil filters for my PC800 from JC Whitney @ $5.48 each. Anyone find them cheaper ??? Jim/ Key Largo FL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Web page From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 08 Dec 1997 23:45:46 -0600 Lines: 13 >>>>> "PN" == PETER NOETH, SR SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV X5567 writes: PN> Who is supposed to maintain the web page? Nobody's "supposed" to do it; as with all volunteer efforts, you get what you pay for. Did I hear you volunteering? There's actually been an effort to design a new page; the results are not public yet basically because I haven't created the necessary accounts. Hopefully some time soon I'll get some free time and I'll take care of it; then the pages can be uploaded and everybody can look. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 05:38:59 -0500 From: Hal MacDonald To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Hi Gregg and all; When I bought my '89 PC I was advised by the seller that there was a plug put in the rear tire as a temporary fix. He had ridden on it for about a thousand miles. In Ontario we are required by law to have a licenced mechaic safety-certify the bike before it can be transferred to the new owner as mechanically fit. The mechanic whom I trust suggested that since it was only a few weeks until winter storage time to use the tire with a bit of caution regarding speeds. He said that in his experience he had not had a plug let go during rides within the highway speed limits. He had seen a person have the rear tire go flat at the plug during a race though. I rode about 1500 miles within the speed limits (mostly) and had no problem. My suggestion is to just ride a bit cautiously if you need to make it last for a few weeks. Have a GREAT day and ride SAFELY :-) Hal MacDonald Ajax Ont., Canada. Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > Dear List, > > I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the > members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* > opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but > just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near > the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the > manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler > one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda > dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing > the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear > tire than I am on the PC's. > > It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a > clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it > (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or > losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway > sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), > so I only need to make it last 'til then. > > I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CAPELLE Pierre To: PC800_group , PC800_nl Subject: PC800: PC800 Owner Guide Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:47:00 +0100 Hello from France, I need help because I bought a PC800 last mounth but without its Owner Guide. Is there a friendly PC owner which can send me a copy of this book ? I'll pay back all expenses. Other question : is there a typical radio and speaker for PC800 ? I'd like to include radio screen in the dashboard and have the radio control on the left handle ... somebody has already done ? Cheers. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mark Lucas" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:57:40 -0800 I have a plug in the rear OEM tire. Picked up a nail at about 200 miles. Took it to a shop, they put in a mushroom plug *from the inside*. I now have 6k on the tire, and it's still running like a champ. The plug happened to be inside the center groove. I don't know if you have your hole on a groove or raised tread and if this would make any difference. Also, I do most of my riding commuting on surface streets, mostly not going much over 50mph. I understand that with a plug it is not advisable to exceed 70mph for extended periods of time. Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:19:14 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging I had a back tire plugged from the inside and it held until I NEEDED a new tire. When the tire blew it wasn't a screw or anything like that in fact I don't know what caused the flat just that there was a big hole in my rear tire. This was about ten years ago on my '83 Yamaha Maxim 750. I do not remember if the tire was a Dunlop Sport Elite or the Touring Dunlop just that the plug did hold out for myself and I can't speak for anyone else. Anyway I think the key to the repair is from the inside of the tire which I always do for any vehicle of mine two or four wheeled. I remember when I did have the tire replaced the mechanic made a comment on the size of the plug and was suprised it was still holding that well. Oh well, happy day to all. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 09:55:36 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu, _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging I rode my PC home from OK last June, two-up, with a nail in the rear tire. I found it at a rest stop. I stopped at a dealer and he wouldn't touch repairing the tire. He's let me use air for free if I wanted to plug it. I decided to pump it up and check it frequently. After 2K miles it was still holding up. My shop tried to patch it but was unsuccessful. The reason is the K177 is not smooth on the inside but has a raised cross-hatch design. Even grinding it didn't work. So a plugged tire is home in my cellar and I used my spare K177 to replace it. I ran a plugged tire on a CBR1000F when I owned it. It was plugged after 1K miles of use and it was fine when the tire wore out. Roger PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567 wrote: > > Gregg, > > I have always viewed tire plugging as a temporary fix. As others have > already responded, the correct way to fix a tire is from the inside with a > patch. > > I have carried a plug kit on my motorcycles for on the spot flat repair > but only to get me to a shop where it can be fixed correctly. I have always > heard negative comments on those "fix in a can" devices that fill your > wheel with foam goop that supposidly seals the hole. I hear that it may > work ok on cars, but it corrodes aluminum wheels and makes a mess out of > the inside of the tire. This results in having to have the guy at the shop > completely wash the inside of the tire before they can patch it. > > Considering the amount of flexing a motorcycle tire is subject to, I > wouldn't expect a plug to hold pressure for very long. I have had to plug > my previous motorcycle's tires twice and it worked just fine until I got it > to a shop. The guy just took a pair of pliers and yanked the plug out, then > patched it and all was well again. > > Regards, > > Peter > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 10:03:56 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Isn't a plug from inside the tire called a "patch"? The correct patches resemble a mushroom. Roger Prince Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com wrote: > > I had a back tire plugged from the inside and it held until I NEEDED a new > tire. When the tire blew it wasn't a screw or anything like that in fact I > don't know what caused the flat just that there was a big hole in my rear > tire. This was about ten years ago on my '83 Yamaha Maxim 750. I do not > remember if the tire was a Dunlop Sport Elite or the Touring Dunlop just > that the plug did hold out for myself and I can't speak for anyone else. > Anyway I think the key to the repair is from the inside of the tire which I > always do for any vehicle of mine two or four wheeled. I remember when I > did have the tire replaced the mechanic made a comment on the size of the > plug and was suprised it was still holding that well. > Oh well, happy day to all. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:54:45 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron To: vuure@dds.nl Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu, _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Jeroen, Being an Electronic Engineer myself, I can tell you up front that it will be quite a challenging engineering task to remote the controls of a standard car CB. You will need multiwire cables to remote the channel display/channel selector that will not be easy to find. The volume, squelch, and microphone connections will need to use seperate 2 wire shielded cables, not usually easy to find either. Also the drive and sense circuitry may need to be changed for many of the switches, as they were not designed to drive long wire paths. The system will also be prone to picking up a lot of ignition and other electrical interference as well. Your best bet is to find a CB that has the remote display and controls contained in the microphone. Then you will need a cable with less wires (still needs to be shielded), usually eight, which may be easier to find. These were popular in the States back a few years ago, but I am not sure what you may find in the Netherlands. If that is not successful, then the next thing would be to get the accessory CB from the current Gold Wing. This is a seperate unit from the radio, and has the necessary wiring and design to accomendate a remote display/channel selector, as well as the PTT (Push to Talk) switch. You could also obtain the handlebar control and retrofit it (around $200 U.S., I checked on this already) to use its PTT switch. This solution will be quite expensive, but unless you are a competent Electronics Engineer, getting someone who is may cost about as much. The advantage of going this route is that this CB was designed for the motorcycle environment. I am planning to do much the same thing to an auto AM/FM/Cassette unit myself, and am expecting it to be an interesting challenge. I will get and use the Gold Wing handlebar radio control box. I will also be tying in an option for any type of tranciever, CB, Amateur or 49Mhz bike communicator. This component I will wear on my belt, as then this component is interchangeable in the complete system. However, this is not a current high priority item in my daily schedule, so I don't know when it will be completed. I will make available the information to anyone who would like to try it on their own, once I have the complete system working. Good luck! Regards, Peter Noeth '96 PC800 1500 miles and loving every minuite -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MAIL-RELAY.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #10044) Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:56:51 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 19:55:12 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: Re: PC800: stator costs To: scotp1965@mdn.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" Scott- Did your stator fail already at 13,700 miles? I read awhile ago that they fail on 89's around 28,000. I just passed 28,000 miles on my 89 and am wondering if I will be the next victim. Anyone out there that can tell me if this is a problem that affects ALL 89's or a percentage of them? My honda dealer said it would cost me around $325 if and when I have to replace it... Mike 89 PC 28,400 and still chuggin -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Monday, December 08, 1997 7:18 PM Subject: PC800: stator costs >Does anyone know what a stator costs for an '89 PC800? Are there other >parts that need to be replaced when the stator fails? > >Scot >'89 PC800 >13,700 miles >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cheney777 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:07:40 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Subscriber Hi - Am attempting to get started as a new subscriber Own a 1996 PC800 (my first motorcycle) and use it to tour. Traveled on it from the Boston, Ma area to Chicago area this summer and am planning on going to the San Francisco area on it next summer. Am anxious to talk to other PC800 owners as there doesn't seem to be too many out there - judging by the lack of sightings I'va experienced during my travels Hope to hear from somebody Cheney777@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA19550; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:46:40 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 20:42:02 -0800 To: Cheney777 From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: New Subscriber Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi there, Cheney777 (?), you certainly know how to get started with a bang on your first bike. I've had my 96 for a year now and put on about 7,000 miles, mostly local. What a great escape, eh? Welcome. Greg Chambers At 11:07 PM 12/9/97 EST, you wrote: >Hi - > >Am attempting to get started as a new subscriber > >Own a 1996 PC800 (my first motorcycle) and use it to tour. Traveled on it from >the >Boston, Ma area to Chicago area this summer and am planning on going to the >San Francisco area on it next summer. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MAIL-RELAY.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #10044) Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:05:37 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 20:03:56 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Owner Guide To: CAPELLE Pierre , PC800_group , PC800_nl Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" I have a extra PC owners manual that came with both bikes I bought. (one to replace my totaled steed back in July...) Let me know the mailing procedures- never mailed anything internationally before... ha. Mike 89 PC and still riding. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CAPELLE Pierre To: PC800_group ; PC800_nl Date: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 6:49 AM Subject: PC800: PC800 Owner Guide >Hello from France, > >I need help because I bought a PC800 last mounth but without its Owner >Guide. Is there a friendly PC owner which can send me a copy of this >book ? I'll pay back all expenses. >Other question : is there a typical radio and speaker for PC800 ? I'd >like to include radio screen in the dashboard and have the radio control >on the left handle ... somebody has already done ? > >Cheers. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:26:52 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" CC: vuure@dds.nl, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567 wrote: > > Jeroen, > I am planning to do much the same thing to an auto AM/FM/Cassette unit > myself, and am expecting it to be an interesting challenge. I will get and > use the Gold Wing handlebar radio control box. I will also be tying in an > option for any type of tranciever, CB, Amateur or 49Mhz bike communicator. > This component I will wear on my belt, as then this component is > interchangeable in the complete system. However, this is not a current high > priority item in my daily schedule, so I don't know when it will be > completed. I will make available the information to anyone who would like > to try it on their own, once I have the complete system working. > > Good luck! > > Regards, > > Peter Noeth I spent a lot of time and money trying to adapt an auto CB to a motorcycle. The final solution was to buy a Cycle Com head set and an adaption set of wiring (no longer available) to a Maxon hand held. It works fine but it retrospect I would recommend buying either a Cycle Com or or J&B outfit. Yes they expensive but they work. -- Bob Anundson President Abiqua Production Tualatin, OR 97062 (503) 692 2841 f7906 boba@teleport.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:33:16 -0800 From: Lee Keetle To: Wanda Bailie CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: windshield mods Wanda Bailie wrote: > > Lee, > You live so close to Gerbing Heated clothing in Union Washington you should > consider heated gloves. I love mine, and my socks too. > Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" _____________________________________________________________________ My bike is the Black Beauty as well. What a rare coincidence! From my reading over the past two or three months it was evident that the gloves were the preferable choice for comfort and electrical efficiency. I was coming down on the side of grips because of my lovely commute. It will become self evident here in a moment. Let me explain a bit. At 4:40am I go to the garage and get out the bike 4:42am get off the bike and shut the garage door 4:43am get back on the bike 4:46am stop at ferry toll booth to extract tickets for the boat 4:47am work up to the front of line and get off bike Washington State Department of Transportation encourages vanpools and motorcyclists! 5:02 get back on bike and board first ferry of the morning 5:04 get off bike and go upstairs to what hopefully will be warmth 5:35 go back downstairs and prepare to depart ferry 5:50 stop at some place for food a place crazy enough to be open at that time of day 6:00 get back on bike 6:10 get back off bike and enter the bright cheery workplace! I can't even find my keys on a regular basis, so I would assusme that the gloves or socket would be ruined through some manner of forgetfullness within... oh let's say the first ten minutes. It would be pretty easy for me to become excessively flustered after damaging such an item when I'd rather be home in bed. Bought some nicer gloves today with some protective Kevlar woven in, but I was unable to find the heated grips in stock. If the gloves are far easier to use than I realize, please write and let me know. -Thanks -Lee Keetle -95PC / 23K / daily driver/ Ah heck it's wet, again... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MAIL-RELAY.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #10044) Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:58:28 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:57:03 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: Re: PC800: New Subscriber To: Cheney777 , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cheney777 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 10:21 PM Subject: PC800: New Subscriber >Am anxious to talk to other PC800 owners as there doesn't seem to be too >many out there - judging by the lack of sightings I'va experienced during my >travels > >Hope to hear from somebody > >Cheney777@aol.com > Well... you should try riding on 205/580 between the Central Valley and the Bay area in Northern California during the morning commute. I regularly see another 89 and a 90 PCer from time to time, and have seen an oxidated 90 a couple times, a black pc once. Wondered if one of you guys on the list commutes that way? This morning I was riding between lanes (bumper to bumper @5 mph) and noticed another 90 PC riding along behind me. Didnt figure it would be too smart to stop, get off and greet him/her. Of course the customary hand wave was exchanged. Another time on the commute I ended up riding alongside another 90 PC for a short distance. Looked at eachother and gave eachother the thumbs up sign simulaneously. Maybe we need to advertise this web site on the bikes so others can join and see what they are missing... Mike 89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:30:38 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Tire plugging Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:18:24 -0500 I plugged a ME88 that was 1 month old (only had 2000 miles on it). I had payed $125 plus mounting fees for the tire and didn't want to throw it away. If It only had about 2000 miles worth of tred left, I would have discarded it. Your tire will probably work fine, but I wouldn't take any trips on it or ride 2up. And you need to weigh the value of another 6 weeks of use vs the potental for harm or inconvience if it fails. It's your call. ---------- > From: Gregg L. DesElms > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Tire plugging > Date: Monday, December 08, 1997 8:40 PM > > Dear List, > > I think I already know the answer, but what's the consensus of the > members of this list (among those who actually have an *informed* > opinion) regarding putting a tubeless tire plug (a high quality one, but > just a plug nevertheless) in a rear K177? (Not near the edge; more near > the center, where it's the safest to plug a tire.) I already know the > manufacturer recommends against it. But I put a plug in a rear Metzeler > one time on my old V45 Sabre (against the recommendation of my Honda > dealer) and it lasted two seasons with no problem. I ended-up replacing > the tire before it ever failed -- and I was *a lot* harder on that rear > tire than I am on the PC's. > > It seems I picked-up a sheet metal screw in my PC's rear K177. It's a > clean hole; very small. I went ahead and plugged it and I've ridden it > (cautiously) for about 75 miles and it's not wearing inordinately or > losing a bit of air (yet). I'm planning on replacing the tire anyway > sometime around the end of January (it's nearing the wear indicators), > so I only need to make it last 'til then. > > I am being dumb, or what? Opinions, anyone? > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:25:50 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Scalisi" To: Cheney777@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:22:23 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: New Subscriber Sounds like you successfully subscribed. Welcome aboard! I live in Connecticut and own a 90PC. Great bike! I've only been riding since August of 96 but the PC is already our third bike. My first was an 83 Virago which I sold but reget as it was mint. My wife then had a 86 Savage which was to incomfortable so we sold that late this summer. I bought the PC in June of this year. Great all around touring, commuting and sport bike. I love it. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 23:30:33 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: santheep@pacific.net.sg, san_kin_cheong@jpmorgan.com, throttle@pacific.net.sg Subject: PC800: Tire choices Hi everyone, with the recent monsoon season (where it rains at least twice a day in short bursts), I've had some trouble with the ill reputed K555 tires. The front seems to be gripping fine and no sliding at all. But the rear.....lets go when I'm not even provoking the bike. Seems like I could either go for Dunlop K177's or Metzeler ML2 Marathons next. Because, according to the local Dunlop dealer, the K555's are actually a GoldWing compound tire (meaning - for very heavy bikes) Mine have done 14,000 miles and the rear tread is not even half worn. Front seems to be 75% worn. Strange. Anyway, is there any place I can mail order K177's and send them to Singapore? The reason I ask is that I got some negative feed back about the Metzelers. High price, wears off square, harder than average compound. Am I mistaken or should I just go for the Metzelers instead of the K177's? Price for the Mets is approx $200 per tire, as opposed to the $140 per Dunlop K555. Anyone tried other non factory sizes with success? maybe 110/80-17 in front? Yu Seung fr Singapore - '95 Black and Blasting (now sliding, too) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:38:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:29:33 -0500 Peter, JC Whitney sell a CB with the controls and display contained in the microphone. I have one in my Suzuki Samarai. They cost about $80. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Your best bet is to find a CB that has the remote display and controls > contained in the microphone. Then you will need a cable with less wires -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 08:08:15 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: vuure@dds.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Bryce Ulrich Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Mark mounted mine in the trunk. My headset hookup is mounted on the left side of the trunk on the top. The push to talk in under the left handgrip like the police thumb push buttons. The whip antenna is mounted on the right side, about mid rear wheel. My master clutch cylinder mount is the controls for the marine AM/FM/Cassette radio he also mounted in the trunk. I have pictures, but no scanner. If someone wants to post them in the PC homepage, send your snail mail address I will send them your way for posting. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" '91 Suzuki Bandit "Red Robber" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Author: Bryce Ulrich at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 12/8/97 11:19 AM I have a handheld CB that mounts to a metal bracket on the left speaker cutout. It hooks via the belt clip built into the radio. Currently I'm using the stock rubber duck antenna. Power/audio cords are hidden in the bike and come through a gap by the left corner of the windshield where the shield, mirror, and dash come together. Power is supplied from the bike and a push-to-talk button is mounted by the left thumb. It's a radio shack part mounted to a little metal bracket that's screwed to the plastic bar covering next to the left grip. The audio feeds into the audio jack of a Sonic Intercom system that's hidden inside the left pocket. The headset hookup extends through the left pocket lid as well. Mark Reis of MR Communications in Marysville, WA (north of Seattle) did the work. He also did Wanda's bike. However I believe he made a custom bracket for the radio to attach to the clutch master cylinder near the left grip. Mark can be contacted at (425) 335-1296, mrcom@premier1.net , http://www.premier1.net/~mrcom . Mark and I have conspired to do lots of custom communications and electrical work on my PC and ST. He really knows his stuff. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeroen van Vuure [SMTP:vuure@dds.nl] Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 10:53 AM To: PC800 owners club Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Hi Bryce Out of one of your mails I understand that you have a CB tranceiver installed on your PC. I have a question about that. How dit you install the CB tranceiver on your PC? Do you have a portable tranceiver that you mounted on your speaker-cut-out or something, or do you have a car CB installed somewhere? And dit you use a antenne that is not directly mounted on your tranceiver and where dit you put it then? I want to install a CB on my PC to, but I don't want to use a portable PC. I want a CB that is also used for cars and put it out of sight somewhere. Somewhere near the stearing bar I want to put a device on witch I can change volume an channels and other things. I think I can make this by rebuilding a car CB tranceiver, but I want as much information of CB's on a PC as I can get. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:10:26 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Tire choices At 23:30 12/11/97 +0800, you wrote: >Hi everyone, with the recent monsoon season (where it rains at least >twice a day in short bursts), I've had some trouble with the ill reputed >K555 tires. The front seems to be gripping fine and no sliding at all. >But the rear.....lets go when I'm not even provoking the bike. Check to make sure the bike is not leaking anything, like coolant or oil, onto your rear tire. The PC is not that nervous. >Anyway, is there any place I can mail order K177's and send them to >Singapore? The reason I ask is that I got some negative feed back about >the Metzelers. High price, wears off square, harder than average >compound. Am I mistaken or should I just go for the Metzelers instead >of the K177's? Price for the Mets is approx $200 per tire, as opposed >to the $140 per Dunlop K555. The Metzeler has been called the better tire for sport(ish) riding, the K177 better for touring, so I doubt the Metzeler is too hard. Didn't they change the compound a year or two ago? Don't remember. >Anyone tried other non factory sizes with success? maybe 110/80-17 in >front? I know of people that have tried 120/70-17 as a front (radial, if I remember correctly- Kent comes to mind) and a 90 aspect ratio on the rear (not at the same time). Be careful when experimenting with tires. Good luck. At least your precipitation is in liquid form. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:23:53 +0100 Hi Peter The idear of using a tranceiver with the display and switches on the microfoon hasn't come up with me, but I think that's a very good idear. I was already afraid that if I used long wires for the squelse and everything I would have to deal with some noise problems. I have a CB tranceiver ad home to with normal 22 channels. I wanted more channels so I rebuild it a bit by putting in two extra crystal's ( I don't now if you uses this word for it to so I explain what it is: That thing that oscillate's on a frequentie) and variable capacitors. I now have 64 channels, but what my point is that when I did that the extra wires must be very short or else it wouldn't oscillate and wouldn't send, so I now how difficult it is. I like a challenge but if it's possible to do it easier than I will do that. It's nice to find somone who share's two of the same interesting things as me, a PC800 and Electronica. Keep me informed about your inventions, I will do the same if you want? (I hope what I wrote did make any sense, because I find it difficult to write technical things in an other langange.) Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl ---------- > Van: PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567 > Aan: vuure@dds.nl > CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu; _PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron > Datum: dinsdag 9 december 1997 18:54 > > Jeroen, > > Being an Electronic Engineer myself, I can tell you up front that it will > be quite a challenging engineering task to remote the controls of a > standard car CB. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" , "Vincent Santamaria" Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:33:30 +0100 I know the type CB tranceiver so I think I can find one in the netherlands, but thanks for the information anyway, That goes for all of you. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl ---------- > Van: Vincent Santamaria > Aan: > CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron > Datum: woensdag 10 december 1997 16:29 > > Peter, JC Whitney sell a CB with the controls and display contained in the > microphone. I have one in my Suzuki Samarai. They cost about $80. > Vince in Fort Myers,FL > ---------- > > Your best bet is to find a CB that has the remote display and controls > > contained in the microphone. Then you will need a cable with less wires > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) From: John La Subject: PC800: stator failure mileage To: pclist FYI- Mine failed at 13k. John _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jay McDaniel" To: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:34:37 -0800 For those interested in articles about adventures aboard the PC800, take a look a recent posting: http://www.activebike.com/index/features/PC800.HTM Jay McDaniel, Editor Interactive Motorcycle http://www.activebike.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:09:43 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Interactive Motorcycle Cc: intermotor@jps.net At 16:34 12/10/97 -0800, Jay McDaniel wrote: >For those interested in articles about adventures aboard the PC800, take a >look a recent posting: > >http://www.activebike.com/index/features/PC800.HTM Good story! I liked the one about the old motorcyclist better tho. Helped a little with a bad case of PMS. Juan If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Joe Marshall" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: For Sale Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:53:25 -0500 For sale: 1990 Pacific Coast; 34k miles; custom color--teal; Kenwood Stereo. $3,000. This bike is in the Richmond, VA. area. Respond via e-mail to ahclem@mindspring.com. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 03:32:27 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Amp-U-Tron Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:22:27 -0500 Good story. I'm cold just sitting here thinking about it. Thanks,Vince ---------- > > For those interested in articles about adventures aboard the PC800, take a > look a recent posting: > > http://www.activebike.com/index/features/PC800.HTM > > Jay McDaniel, Editor > Interactive Motorcycle > http://www.activebike.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:10:01 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Worth a laugh. Hello fello riders. Bored a bit? Cabin fever getting to you? Check this page out and take the "What Kind of Biker Are You?" quiz. Pretty funny, as long as you keep in mind that it is brit-humor. Enjoy! http://www.erack.com/mcw/ If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:49:22 -0800 Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:49:20 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: (Re)new Subscriber Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:49:19 -0500 Good evening! I am back on this list after too long an absence. I met Tim & Nan Macy via this list over a year ago to my great benefit; Tim & Nan are tops and I'm glad they visited me and I was glad to visit them in Oregon a month ago. That being said, I am: John Louk Carmel, Indiana email: johnnytech@email.msn.com swift24@juno.com I am pleased to continue to own my great '90 model in all its candy glory red! I bought it new in 'April, '92. It's got Corbin saddle, front mud flap, trunk bags, trunk lights, Klingon 'Bird of Prey' spoiler, anti-skuff kit, one 1/8th inch silver pinstripe one inch above the separation point between the red and silver colors completely around the cycle, progressive front suspension. Tried and sold the tall Honda windshield after it melted the dash three times. Tried "stealth edging" (so-so), and the SAENG top mounted winglet (so-so, too). Will purchase a better shield (Rifle?) before the next season. Attend all the Honda Hoots, most Rider Rallys, and Honda Homecomings to name a few. (I cannot compete with Tim & Nan, though, for travel mileage!) It's good to be back. Personal: Age 57, retired Naval Officer (LCDR), and currently hard working Electronics Engineer for an Indiana power company. Spouse unit will not ride, but tolerates my passion. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MAIL-RELAY.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #10044) Thu, 11 Dec 1997 23:24:09 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:22:30 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: PC800: The Night Before Christmas To: PC800 List Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" --Boundary_(ID_FYIOiwCj9Jq8ud/6lregbg) BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_JQTZmMGfxdlyIvHohPieAQ)" --Boundary_(ID_JQTZmMGfxdlyIvHohPieAQ) Here's a good story for you all computer bikers... Anyone with enough = down time to convert this timeless story to include the PC? Give it a = shot and post it! I'm still too busy riding... Mike 89, it's cold in the morning, but still out ridin' --Boundary_(ID_JQTZmMGfxdlyIvHohPieAQ)
Here's a good story for you all = computer=20 bikers...   Anyone with enough down time to convert this = timeless=20 story to include the PC?   Give it a shot and post it!  = I'm still=20 too busy riding...
Mike
89, it's cold in the morning, but = still out=20 ridin'
--Boundary_(ID_JQTZmMGfxdlyIvHohPieAQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_FYIOiwCj9Jq8ud/6lregbg) Content-description: Night BeforeChristmas...Computer Style Return-path: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 01:29:17 EST From: SneakyPeke Subject: Night BeforeChristmas...Computer Style To: Chakonkmas@aol.com, AGreatOrca@aol.com, BaronWo@aol.com, DMitzy@aol.com, Gamedame@aol.com, GlassFishy@aol.com, GloveFitz@aol.com, HARM711@aol.com, HOWTRIK@aol.com, IAMEVIL1@aol.com, KGauth5082@aol.com, Linkdeb@aol.com, MoomIsMe@aol.com, MosinAlong@aol.com, ONette@aol.com, QuinnieQ@aol.com, Rou28BLK@aol.com, Seawitch45@aol.com, SineCosTan@aol.com, SlvSurfer@aol.com, TDani75684@aol.com, Toggen@aol.com, TreiiSea@aol.com, Ybbh923@aol.com, YeIIow@aol.com, YellowEtc@aol.com THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS A festive holiday poem Hugh Drumm & Vincent Ambrose 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the Net, There were hacker's a surfing. Geeks? Yeah, you bet. The e-mails were stacked by the modem with care, In hopes that St. Nicholas soon would be there. The newbies were nestled all snug by their screens, While visions of Java danced in their dreams. My wife on the sofa and me with a snack, We just settled down at my rig (it's a Mac). When out in the Web there arose such a clatter, I jumped to the site to see what was the matter. To a new page my Mac flew like a flash, Then made a slight gurgle. It started to crash!! I gasped at the thought and started to grouse, Then turned my head sideways and clicked on my mouse. When what to my wondering eyes should appear, My Mac jumped to a page that wasn't quite clear. When the image resolved, so bright and so quick, I knew in a moment it must be St. Nick! More rapid than mainframes, more graphics they came, Then Nick glanced toward my screen, my Mac called them by name; "Now Compaq! Now Acer!", my speaker did reel; "On Apple! On Gateway!" Santa started to squeal! "Jump onto the circuits! And into the chip! Now speed it up! Speed it up! Make this thing hip!" The screen gave a flicker, he was into my RAM, Then into my room rose a full hologram! He was dressed in all red, from his head to his shoes, Which were black (the white socks he really should lose). He pulled out some discs he had stored in his backpack. Santa looked like a dude who was rarin' to hack! His eyes, how they twinkled! His glasses, how techno! This ain't the same Santa that I used to know! With a wink of his eye and a nod of his head, Santa soon let me know I had nothing to dread. He spoke not a word, gave my Mac a quick poke, And accessed my C drive with only a stroke. He defragged my hard drive, and added a SIMM, Then threw in some cool games, just on a whim! He worked without noise, his fingers they flew! He distorted some pictures with Kai's Power Goo! He updated Office, Excel and Quicken, Then added a screensaver with a red clucking chicken! My eyes widened a bit, my mouth stood agape, As he added the latest version of Netscape. The drive gave a whirl, as if it were pleased, St. Nick coyly smiled, the computer appeased. Then placing his finger on the bridge of his nose, Santa turned into nothing but ones and zeros! He flew back into my screen and through my uplink, Back into the net with barely a blink. But I heard his sweet voice as he flew from my sight, "Happy surfing to all, and to all a good byte!" --Boundary_(ID_FYIOiwCj9Jq8ud/6lregbg)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:46:03 EST To: Cheney777@aol.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Subscriber Be careful with that tall Honda Wind Screen. When you check the archives you will find it have a reputation, when in the correct position with the sun, of creating burn holes the PC's plastic. Many riders with the tall Hondaline Screen carry a cover to protect their bike. I think some of the other members of the list have experence with the tall Honda Wind Screen. BTW, you are a very well equipped long distance runner. Bernie Hi Bernie - Thanks for the info. At the moment I'm equipped with the Hondaline extra coverage windscreen, a digital clock, a throttle locking device, heated handgrips, a sheepskin seat cover, passenger backrest with a sissy-bar-bag and swivel wide angle mirrors mounted on the regular mirrors. Have also edged the windscreen with saeng wind stripping. Always carry rain gear, cell phone, emergency tools, first aid supplies, tire patches and air pump, along with a kit of personal items such as tape played w/tapes, a weather radio, extra sunglasses, etc in trunk. Since my long-distance riding is solo, I pack a bag with clothes on the rear seat. Seems to be working fine but the corbin saddle idea sounds great! Will look into it early next season. Will check out the archives you suggested. Thanks for your reply - talk to ya later Cheney777Aaol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by server3.wans.net, id smtpdAAAa000If; Fri Dec 12 00:13:03 1997 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Craig Carter To: "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: PC800: Interesting reading Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:14:16 -0600 Hi everyone. I'm a new PC800 owner as of the 6th of December. Attended the Dallas Motorcycle auction where over 1000 bikes, Jet-skis, boats, and ATVs were auctioned off. I've been considering the PC800 since last year when I sold my second bike ('82 Yamaha Seca 750). It was a great bike but it was getting the years on it and I really wanted some carrying capacity. Anyway, there were only two PC800s that were not trashed (a '95 and a '96). The 96 looked like the body panels had been sanded but the '95 was almost perfect and had only 5600 miles on it. It had been repossessed in September in New Hampshire and shipped to Texas. The bidding all weekend was hot and furious but I finally won out and gave $4800 for it. She's black and silver and very clean. I've already learned a few things reading you messages--here's some personal information: Craig Carter San Antonio, Texas ccarter@wans.net '95 PC800 Bike is unmodified although I just purchased a set of trunk bags. This is my third bike and I know it will be great! Looking forward to waving to some of you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by server3.wans.net, id smtpdAAAa000It; Fri Dec 12 00:17:45 1997 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Craig Carter To: "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:18:59 -0600 Greetings, Those of you who have installed heated handgrips and use motorcycle covers, what's the BEST for the PC800? Although I could read all the older messages, I want to get the latest opinions on what's available. Thanks, Craig ('95 Black and Silver) ccarter@wans.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Norskar Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:18:01 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? I'm interested in getting a Rifle windshield for my 95 PC, the Stealthbike. I wonder if there's wisdom out there about what would be the optimum size for me and my wife. I'm about 5'10 in inches tall, and we will do some extended two- up touring--hopefully a week or so. I like the kinda tall windshield. Will it make the ride nicer, less buffety for her? Thanks in advance. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:38:00 -0500 From: Jason To: Craig Carter CC: "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: Re: PC800: Interesting reading Well, then, you know that the 94-95's are the best color. :) Welcome aboard! Jason 94 PC (And I'm riding next week even if it means in a foot of snow!) > I've already learned a few things reading you messages--here's > some > personal information: > > Craig Carter > San Antonio, Texas > ccarter@wans.net > '95 PC800 > Bike is unmodified although I just purchased a set of trunk > bags. > > This is my third bike and I know it will be great! Looking > forward to > waving to some of you. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:45:33 -0600 From: Barbara Lyford To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ron Grant in Texas! I am the Oz pc owner traveling thru Texas heading for Central America. I have a Yamaha SR 250 and will be in Corpus Christi Sat and Sunday to change two tires waiting for me there. If there are any listmembers or friends in that area that may be able to offr help, garage space etc. as I do final prep for the LONG haul to Panama...it would be MOST appreciated. I am now at Galveston 409 765 6720 to Sat am then that night in CC at 512 884 5606. Any message may be left for me. Thanks, Ron Grant from Brisbane, Australia. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:44:31 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: Re: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover Craig Carter wrote: > > Greetings, > > Those of you who have installed heated handgrips and use motorcycle > covers, what's the BEST for the PC800? Although I could read all the older > messages, I want to get the latest opinions on what's available. I have hippo hands that I made on my PC and they help but are not totally warm. Part is due to my design and the trade offs and mistakes I made. The insulation I used could have been thicker and the back seam has about an inch which is not insulated. I also forced the openings to stay open through some plastic tubing which allows cold air in. On the whole they are a lot warmer than a bare grip and I recommend that approach because it keeps the gloves dry and no other method does that even hot grips. I find cold wet gloves most disagreeable. I had heated grips on my BMW and they certainly made riding warmer. However they only warm the inside of the fingers and palm and the exterior side was still a little cold. Regards, Bob > > Thanks, > Craig ('95 Black and Silver) > ccarter@wans.net > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Bob Anundson President Abiqua Production Tualatin, OR 97062 (503) 692 2841 f7906 boba@teleport.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:56:47 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Cc: Subject: PC800: Fw: Ron plea for help Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:46:36 -0500 Anyone on the PC net that can help Ron in the Corpus Christi area? Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > From: Barbara Lyford > To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net > Subject: Ron plea for help > Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 11:43 AM > > Hi Vince again....I know this is a long shot...but could you please put > this message on the pc list asap for me? > > I am the Oz pc owner traveling thru Texas heading for Central America. I > have a Yamaha SR 250 and will be in Corpus Christi Sat and Sunday to > change two tires waiting for me there. If there are any listmembers or > friends in that area that may be able to offr help, garage space etc. as > I do final prep for the LONG haul to Panama...it would be MOST > appreciated. I am now at Galveston 409 765 6720 to Sat am then that > night in CC at 512 884 5606. Any message may be left for me. Thanks, Ron > Grant from Brisbane, Australia. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: SUZY Q IB Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:00:20 EST To: wcharhay@bsdi.anv.net, raybob@hiwaay.net Cc: Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com, ldrider@usaa.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, higdon@ironbutt.com Subject: PC800: Re: LDRider: Endurance riding...legal? In a message dated 97-11-26 11:55:03 EST, wcharhay@bsdi.anv.net writes: << GO RIDE! (You can stop when you want) >> BRAVO, Warren!!!! SuzyQ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:31:37 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: LDRider: Endurance riding...legal? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:22:23 -0500 Yes, the only thing that you have to do is die, everything else in life is optional. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > > << GO RIDE! (You can stop when you want) >> > > BRAVO, Warren!!!! > > SuzyQ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:32:48 -0800 Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:32:46 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Tim? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:32:50 -0500 This is a general broadcast to anyone who has seen Tim & Nan Macy from Portland, OR in the past few weeks. I've attempted to contact via e-mail with nil results. I know what 'busy' is, but this is ridiculous! John Louk Carmel, IN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:37:05 -0800 "PC800: Tim?" (Dec 12, 6:32pm) To: "John Louk" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Tim? Negatory on our end too! Erin and I have tried the email method but with no results. Hey Tim! Nan! Everything cool up there in OR?! Just being a mother hen. ;-) Ramin On Dec 12, 6:32pm, John Louk wrote: > Subject: PC800: Tim? > This is a general broadcast to anyone who has seen Tim & Nan Macy from > Portland, OR in the past few weeks. I've attempted to contact via e-mail > with nil results. I know what 'busy' is, but this is ridiculous! > > John Louk > Carmel, IN -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:650-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id UAA24699 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:14:32 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:03:31 -0500 Hi, I have a Rifle with the tall (Rifle calls it 24") windshield. I'm = about 6'3" and am fairly long from the waist up (32" inseam) so I = actually look over the top a couple of inches. I find the tall shield to = be OK for me - I get a little wind hitting the top of my helmet and if I = slump I can hide out of the airflow. However, my wife (who has her own = bike now) always seemed to get more wind buffeting on the back than I = did as driver. She's only about 5'6" so the top of her helmet was pretty = close to the top of mine. It was annoying just a little noiser than she = would have like at speeds over 65 or so. I've actually been considering = ordering a custom 26" shield from Rifle to give me a little quieter = ride. I don't want to get it so high that I can't see over the top in = rain but I would like just a bit more protection. =20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Norskar [SMTP:Norskar@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 1997 11:18 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? I'm interested in getting a Rifle windshield for my 95 PC, the = Stealthbike. I wonder if there's wisdom out there about what would be the optimum size = for me and my wife. I'm about 5'10 in inches tall, and we will do some extended = two- up touring--hopefully a week or so. I like the kinda tall windshield. = Will it make the ride nicer, less buffety for her? Thanks in advance.=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 17:20:42 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: "John Louk" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tim? I saw Tim last Saturday and he said he hadn't checked his e-mail in over 2 weeks. He is taking apart his computer and doing a bunch of work and part exchanges. I told him it was going to take him forever to wade through all his mail when he was up and running. I will tell him Sunday when I will see him again that there is concern for him. Wanda Bailie'95 PC800"Black Beauty" '91 Suzuki Bandit"Red Robber" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Tim? Author: "John Louk" at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 12/12/97 3:34 PM This is a general broadcast to anyone who has seen Tim & Nan Macy from Portland, OR in the past few weeks. I've attempted to contact via e-mail with nil results. I know what 'busy' is, but this is ridiculous! John Louk Carmel, IN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:55:05 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Early Christmas Present Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. It's a 46 liter GIVI bag with built in brake light and passenger backrest. It holds two full coverage helmets leaving the two side bags for every thing else. It looks as if it was designed with the PC in mind. The back end has a wrap around reflector that looks like the lights on the bike. While it's not cool to talk about what your lovely spent on you for christmas the total with rack, bag, pad and light was less than $300. A Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston, LA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA29194; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:58:35 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:35:29 -0800 To: Norskar From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'm not sure about your wife, but in the front seat, I am 6' with only a 30" inseam, and the 27" is perfect for me. I can look over the top or through it, depending on posture. - Greg Chambers At 11:18 AM 12/12/97 EST, you wrote: > >I'm interested in getting a Rifle windshield for my 95 PC, the Stealthbike. I >wonder if there's wisdom out there about what would be the optimum size for me >and my wife. I'm about 5'10 in inches tall, and we will do some extended two- >up touring--hopefully a week or so. I like the kinda tall windshield. Will it >make the ride nicer, less buffety for her? Thanks in advance. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA00035 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:02:12 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:47:26 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: PC800: Local Electrical Storm Well, I'm buried in electrical wire. I bought three items from Kriss, the headlight modulator, the hot shot turn signal/brake light flasher, and the 4-way hazard flasher. Having now removed a bunch of plastic and installed all three, I am pleased to report that the first two work great... Unfortunately, my 4-way flasher bombed out for some reason. They say not to let the switch wires or the hot wire touch ground or it will damage the unit. I was very careful when connecting the power, but do you suppose letting those wires touch ground _before_ connecting the power might damage the unit? That makes no sense to me, but I can't figure out any other reason it isn't working. Any thoughts? Thanks. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:21:47 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Greg Chambers CC: Norskar , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? I have the 27" Rifle and my wife says she still catches a good bit of wind but it is much better than the stock shield. I am 6'1" and a 33 inseam and am able to stretch above and settle below the top. I don't plan on doing much riding in the rain and would rather have the wind protection for the majority of my riding. From where I sit the 27" is just right but my wife would like it a little taller. She doesn't ride that often so she can live with it. She is 5'6". I installed a Chatterbox Intercom and we can hear each other fine. Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston LA Greg Chambers wrote: > I'm not sure about your wife, but in the front seat, I am 6' with only a 30" > inseam, and the 27" is perfect for me. I can look over the top or through > it, depending on posture. - Greg Chambers > > At 11:18 AM 12/12/97 EST, you wrote: > > > >I'm interested in getting a Rifle windshield for my 95 PC, the Stealthbike. I > >wonder if there's wisdom out there about what would be the optimum size for me > >and my wife. I'm about 5'10 in inches tall, and we will do some extended two- > >up touring--hopefully a week or so. I like the kinda tall windshield. Will it > >make the ride nicer, less buffety for her? Thanks in advance. > > > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:52:07 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'Steve Wilson'" Subject: RE: PC800: Early Christmas Present Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:58:57 -0800 Hi Steve, Are you sure it's 46 Liters? I've got the Givi Maxia and it's 50 Liters. It also has the wraparound reflectors that you mentioned. You can check it out at our website under the gizmos page: http://scpcrc.hypermart.net I also have the Corbin so the setup is perfect on my PC. I've seen the passenger backrest on the Corbin along with the Corbin. Steve Churchill had it on his bike but I'm not sure how comfortable it is. I just use the Hondaline backrest without the brackets for my wife and she says it's fine for her. I lean it up against the trunk at an angle with the Corbin and sits like its a lazy chair back there. I love my Corbin as much as another who has one. I can't go back to the stock seat now. BTW, anybody want to buy my stock seats? Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson[SMTP:deere@linknet.net] Sent: Friday, December 12, 1997 8:55 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Early Christmas Present Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. It's a 46 liter GIVI bag with built in brake light and passenger backrest. It holds two full coverage helmets leaving the two side bags for every thing else. It looks as if it was designed with the PC in mind. The back end has a wrap around reflector that looks like the lights on the bike. While it's not cool to talk about what your lovely spent on you for christmas the total with rack, bag, pad and light was less than $300. A Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston, LA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 223 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 09:16:14 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 09:18:35 -0500 From: "Douglas Ford" To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Rifle really secure? Hiya again. Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get installed on anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? I remember a couple weeks ago, people were really pointing out that 'finger-tight' was as far as you take it. But how can finger-tight be secure enough for severe cross-winds on the highway, and how does it hold up to full covers? Don't mean to be so critical, just at the point now where I'm reaching for my wallet and beginning to second-guess it. Thanks muchos!! Doug Odenton, MD -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: SING-ALONG Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 05:23:34 -0500 (To the tune of "Winter Wonderland") Shifting gears, counter-steering, See some ice, I'm a-veering. I'm zooming along, Singing this song, Riding in winter wonderland. Heated grips, fingers toasty, Electric vest, chest is mostly, Warm as can be, Lots of snow I still see, Riding in a winter wonderland. In the evening motor running rough, man, You could say the carbs are solid ice. Block off all the fresh air, that's the fix man, And your scoot will then be running really nice. Neck is warm, no longer frozen, Wrapped with fleece, it's almost roastin'. I'm zooming along, Singing this song, Riding in winter wonderland. stolen from another list - wish I could credit someone more talented than I... Life is short---Go ride! 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:09:57 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Douglas Ford CC: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle really secure? I installed mine with my fingers tightly wrapped around a screw driver with a wrench on the nut side. The last screw to be tightened was in the center of the shield and it cracked. I closely checked every thing out and determined that the holes in the shield were spaced farther apart than the holes in the base leaving a gap under the shield in the center. I called Rifle and they replaced the shield. When I installed the new one I drilled out the holes in the base to match the holes in the shield and tightened the screws firmly with no problems. The shield is very firm and works great. Well worth the money. Just don't tighten any thing up until you know it all aligns. I would also suggest you snug the screws from the center of the shield out to the edge. If there has to be any adjustment it can be done at the edge. Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston LA Douglas Ford wrote: > Hiya again. > > Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get installed on > anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? I remember a couple > weeks ago, people were really pointing out that 'finger-tight' was as > far as you take it. But how can finger-tight be secure enough for > severe cross-winds on the highway, and how does it hold up to full > covers? Don't mean to be so critical, just at the point now where I'm > reaching for my wallet and beginning to second-guess it. Thanks > muchos!! > > Doug > Odenton, MD > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:16:13 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:16:41 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Douglas Ford CC: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle really secure? Douglas Ford wrote: > > Hiya again. > > Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get installed on > anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? I remember a couple > weeks ago, people were really pointing out that 'finger-tight' was as > far as you take it. But how can finger-tight be secure enough for > severe cross-winds on the highway, and how does it hold up to full > covers? Don't mean to be so critical, just at the point now where I'm > reaching for my wallet and beginning to second-guess it. Thanks > muchos!! > > Doug > Odenton, MD Doug, The people who tell you "finger tight" must have some pretty tough fingers. "Finger tight," per se, is not quite enough. The problem is that the foam tape beneath the area where the screws go allows overly-tightened screws to draw down on the shield, eventually causing a crack (usually vertical) which radiates about a quarter of an inch above and below the screw hole. There's a difficult-to-find "happy medium" somewhere between "finger-tight" and so-tight-it-cracks. It's a little like when you're tightening a brass bolt into aluminum or some other relatively soft metal. To prevent stripping of the threads or breakage of the bolt, a torque wrench is recommended. But extremely experienced mechanics eventually learn to tell when they've torqued it approximately enough without a torque wrench and they learn to instantly back-off when it's just right -- and they trust themselves enough never look back. The amount you need to tighten it is sort of like that. After cracking my first Rifle, here's the way I figured out how to do it, for what it's worth: Mount the shield and put the screws in the holes and thread the nuts on on the backside, as usual. Tighten-down with your fingers until they're just sort of snug (not as tight as you *could* get them with your fingers, but by no means "loose"). Get a shop light or some other direct light source and locate it so it's opposite you, with the bike in between. Bend over or squat down or do whatever you have to do so that the reflection of the bulb itself (albeit distorted in shape) is "lying" directly across the screw hole and "surrounds" the shield plastic around it. Note the shape of the bulb reflection in the plastic surrounding the screw head. Use your index finger to push down gently on the screw head and note how the shape of the bulb reflection changes with the compression of the plastic. That's what you're going to be looking for when you're tightening. Use a screwdriver and begin to tighten-down the screw and keep your eye on the reflection. As the screw begins to draw down and get *too* tight, the shape of the reflection will change in much the same way was when you pushed down with your finger. When that happens STOP!!!! It may not feel tight enough, but learn to do like the experienced mechanics and trust your work -- stop and don't look back. The plastic of the shield has enough give in it (when combined with the foam tape) that even if you're the tiniest bit too tight, you should still be okay. BUT DON"T GO BEYOND THAT! NOTE OF WARNING: For this to work, you'll need to develop a very light touch while you're tightening the screw. Most of us are used to pushing down on the screwdriver to keep the blades of the phillips screwdriver from turning out and damaging the head of the screw. But if you push down, you'll distort the shape of the reflection before you've even turned the screw, so that won't work. Use a larger phillips screwdrive is it'll fit in and hold in better if you have to. Either that or go ahead and push down a little, but rather than deciding you're done when you see distortion, instead decide you're done when it doesn't pop back when you release the pressure. This all has to do with technique. It's up to you how you do it. Do what works. From this description, I'm sure you get the point that it's important not to tighten down so much that you distort the plastic so it becomes stressed and cracks (either on the spot, or over time after the shield has been slapped around by the wind a while). Anyway... Reposition the light (and yourself) and repeat the procedure for each of the other holes. Bear in mind that tightening at one hole may affect another. So it's best to finger tighten all holes to approximately where they need to be before using the screwdriver. Then, when you *do* use the screwdriver, tighten the innermost (or centermost) screws first, then the outer ones. The result should be that the shield will be mounted more securely than one could do with their fingers, but not nearly tightly enough to cause cracks around the holes. This is MORE than adequate to handle crosswinds and whatever other normal road stuff that typically gets thrown at windshields. Mine's been on since '91 -- endured 26K miles -- with no problems. Good luck. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:12:08 EST To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Fwd: Re: Re: Stereotypes and longevity ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 13/12 8:30 AM From: motolist@micapeak.com To: motolist@micapeak.com BCC: BernieK469@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) Reply-to: motolist@micapeak.com To: motolist@micapeak.com (Cybertwisties at your fingertips) Just did the a similiar trip from Texas to Panama last Jan/Feb.That strip from Rio Mar in Costa Rica and David in Panama is still very bad but you can bypass some of it on a little better road. The Panama roads were the best. The Costa Rican roads were the worst. Still problems getting in and out of countries. Requires a sense of humor and much patience otherwise you will go crazy. One country required five different stamps on a little green piece of paper in order to leave the country. The exit guard didn't want to see the paper but we made him look at it after we had to stand in different lines for over 2 hours waiting for the hunt and peck clerks to fill out different papers. The biggest joke was the decontamination of your motorcycle. They sprayed the tires of your bike on the bottom sides only for $5.00. I'm going again but taking three months instead of two next time. Great trip and nice people. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > barra to barra. A lot of the Pan-American Highway wasn't paved at that > time. The roughest part was between Rio Mar and David in Panama, also it > seemed at all the bridges in Guatemala were out. Our biggest problem was > getting papers to get our bikes in and out of the different countries > along the way. > > Bernie ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- [172.31.109.10]) by air25.mail.aol.com (v36.0) with SMTP; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:30:30 -0500 by relay10.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA18208; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:23:26 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:14:24 -0800 Errors-To: motolist-owner@micapeak.com Originator: motolist@micapeak.com From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Cybertwisties at your fingertips Subject: Re: Re: Stereotypes and longevity ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:48:37 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:24:09 -0500 From: Bernie Subject: PC800: Fwd: Re: Stereotypes and longevity To: PC 800 Pacific Coast ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 13/12 7:39 AM From: motolist@micapeak.com To: motolist@micapeak.com BCC: BernieK469@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) Reply-to: motolist@micapeak.com To: motolist@micapeak.com (Cybertwisties at your fingertips) Todd, = I went with Pancho Villa Moto Tours last Jan/Feb. They take care of all = the lodging, most meals, most headaches, and (since this was a one way trip = to the Panama Canal) return flight back to Dallas for rider and bike. = I chose to take a throw away bike ( a Honda 500 Silver Wing cost $300 = plus another $300 prep with new tires, etc) and received a discount of the return flight for the rider and bike. I flew home via Miami. This was my fifth trip south of the border but first time south of Guatemala. I have gone twice by myself and three times with Pancho Villa.= Once on a 250cc Suzuki, once on a 1500 Vulcan cruiser, once on a 500cc Honda Ascott, once in a pickup camper one way to Belize, and on a 500cc Silver Wing. I sold the Silver Wing (for $500) between the borders of Costa Rica and Panama to avoid the hassles with duty to a Danish gentleman who somehow = got it back into Costa Rica. He runs a hotel in the Costa Rican jungle at = Rio Mar. I just got a fax from him and he is really enjoying the Silver = Wing. That why I just picked up a CX500 ( almost same bike as SW) for $100 and = am starting to prep it for another trip. People make fun of the Silverwing /= CX500/650 but those bikes are bullet proof and all the bike that you need= on a trip over very rough roads. Actually, they are all the bike you need= anytime unless you have an ego problem. I like the idea of riding one way, selling the bike, and flying home. I will be going by myself next time. The tour is nice but you are on a = fixed schedule and since I am retired I have plenty of time. You can travel as far south as you want to go, all the way to Tierra del Fuego on the tip of South America. As a matter of fact, one of our = Transalp list members is on his way now down thru South America and another member= from the Pacific Coast list is just heading down thru Mexico on his way = to South America. Most plan to take the ferry from Panama to Columbia = instead of crossing the Darien Gap but that is possible too. Problems? Very few. You can't be in a rush. Plan on 200 or less miles per= day. Take your time. Take a big sense of humor and a lot of patience. = They don't do things the way you do back home which is one reason you are = going, right? BTW , I hear that all the time in Florida about how everthing is = so well run up North. = We covered about 4500 miles in 33 days thru Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua,= Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, and Panama. We had ice on the bikes = the first day in Texas crossing into Mexico. Once we were a day in Mexico weather was great the rest of the way. Very little rain since we were in the dry season. You could spend many more days than we did and never run out of things to do. We went right up to the edge of a volcano in = Nicaragua still smoking after 300 years, ruins in Mexico,Guatemala, jungles in = Costa Rica, mountains in Costa Rica, the canal, Antigua, Indian villages in the= mountains of Guatemala, etc, Vince = ---------- > Vince, man, no way you're getting off that easy! I want a full report = on > your Latin America trip on the double! I've always been curious just = how > possible it is to travel that far south--what problems did you have, = etc? > Just how far south can you go? ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- [172.31.109.31]) by air16.mail.aol.com (v36.0) with SMTP; Sat, 13 Dec = 1997 07:39:32 -0500 by relay31.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA18917; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:53:32 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:39:39 -0800 Errors-To: motolist-owner@micapeak.com Originator: motolist@micapeak.com From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Cybertwisties at your fingertips Subject: Re: Stereotypes and longevity ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:37:04 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Early Christmas Present Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 15:29:22 -0500 Steve, Congrats on your Christmas present. You must have a thoughtful wife. I have the Corbin which I really like but haven't seen the Russell on a PC. The Shadow riders that have the Russell really rave about them. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. > Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but > the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the > list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:50:13 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: PC Rifle Windshield ?? Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 15:40:02 -0500 Greg, I am about your size. With my 27" Rifle and my Corbin seat, the windshield is too tall. I would go with a 25" next time. I'm planning to have my 27" cut down so that I can look over it. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > I'm not sure about your wife, but in the front seat, I am 6' with only a 30" > inseam, and the 27" is perfect for me. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 19:28:38 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 19:28:17 -0500 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: Rifle really secure? To: PC800 List >>Hiya again. >>Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get >>installed on anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? = >>I remember a couple weeks ago, people were really pointing out >>that 'finger-tight' was as far as you take it. But how can >>finger-tight be secure enough for severe cross-winds on the >>highway, and how does it hold up to full covers? Don't mean to >>be so critical, just at the point now where I'm reaching for my >>wallet and beginning to second-guess it. Thanks muchos!! Hey, Doug. I've had the Rifle for over a year now - absolutely no problem with stability/security. The shield is actually two components - the fairing which bolts on (very tightly) to your bike, and the shield itself which mounts to the fairing via the aforementioned "finger-tight" bolts. There = is a big rubber gasket between the shield and the fairing - it acts like a huge piece of double-faced tape and actually does 98% of the work of holding the shield in place. I know this from personal experience - I exchanged the shield for a taller one about a week after installing it. When removing the old shield, the bolts came off easily, but I had one HE= LL of a time prying the shield off the gasket. In my opinion, the bolts are just there as guides, and as a safety-net. Steve Schibuola Brea, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 19:53:06 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Vincent Santamaria CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Early Christmas Present Thanks Vincent for the reply. Yes the old bag and the new are both pretty terrific. Vincent Santamaria wrote: > Steve, Congrats on your Christmas present. You must have a thoughtful wife. > I have the Corbin which I really like but haven't seen the Russell on a PC. > The Shadow riders that have the Russell really rave about them. > Vince in Fort Myers,FL > ---------- > > Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. > > Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but > > the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the > > list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by MAIL-RELAY.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #10044) Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:28:52 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:26:32 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: PC800: Cheapest place to order tires from? To: PC800 List Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_lLafIgZPnt8haGnnaAwe2g)" --Boundary_(ID_lLafIgZPnt8haGnnaAwe2g) Need to replace my front tire. Since I do 90% commuting on my PC, Im = sticking with the Dunlops for now. Anyone know who sells them for the = best deal- where's a good place to order them from? My dealer would = cost me $148 for the front tire. Thanks in advance... Mike 89 in Stockton Ca. --Boundary_(ID_lLafIgZPnt8haGnnaAwe2g)
Need to replace my front tire. Since = I do 90%=20 commuting on my PC, Im sticking with the Dunlops for now.  Anyone = know who=20 sells them for the best deal- where's a good place to order them = from?  My=20 dealer would cost me $148 for the front tire.
 
Thanks in advance...
 
Mike
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--Boundary_(ID_lLafIgZPnt8haGnnaAwe2g)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 1997 05:39:22 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "M.VerVelde" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Cheapest place to order tires from? Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 21:38:56 -0800 Mike, For tires, I just check out the ads in motorcycle magazines (i.e. Rider). Check to make sure the vendor has them in stock before you order. Remember, if it's in state, e.g. Chaparral, you pay state tax. Dennis Kirk offers one dollar off any verifiable ad. I've done this three times now, and without a problem. Saves around a third on the price. Spencer 90 in Modesto Ca. ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: M.VerVelde To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Cheapest place to order tires from? Date: Saturday, December 13, 1997 6:26 PM Need to replace my front tire. Since I do 90% commuting on my PC, Im sticking with the Dunlops for now. Anyone know who sells them for the best deal- where's a good place to order them from? My dealer would cost me $148 for the front tire. Thanks in advance... Mike 89 in Stockton Ca. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA26589 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:42:11 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 21:11:46 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle really secure? At 09:18 AM 12/13/97 -0500, Douglas Ford wrote: >Hiya again. > >Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get installed on >anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? Doug - It feels very secure. You need to check the nuts every few months, but I have been in some pretty good winds and have had no problems or concerns. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA27247 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:48:51 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 21:17:59 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Panama Crossing Regarding Panama, a couple I know tried to be the first to motorcycle through the Darian Gap a couple years ago, and nearly died from both the elements and the locals. Nasty territory. Knowing nothing about Panama, I assume there is a much easier route available. BTW, they were doing it on a two-wheel-drive motorcycle. - Greg Chambers At 01:12 PM 12/13/97 EST, you wrote: >From: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) >Reply-to: motolist@micapeak.com >To: motolist@micapeak.com (Cybertwisties at your fingertips) >Just did the a similiar trip from Texas to Panama last Jan/Feb.That strip >from Rio Mar in Costa Rica and David in Panama is still very bad but you >can bypass some of it on a little better road. The Panama roads were the >best. The Costa Rican roads were the worst. Still problems getting in and >out of countries. Requires a sense of humor and much patience otherwise >you >will go crazy. One country required five different stamps on a little >green >piece of paper in order to leave the country. The exit guard didn't want >to >see the paper but we made him look at it after we had to stand in >different >lines for over 2 hours waiting for the hunt and peck clerks to fill out >different papers. The biggest joke was the decontamination of your >motorcycle. They sprayed the tires of your bike on the bottom sides only >for $5.00. >I'm going again but taking three months instead of two next time. Great >trip and nice people. >Vince in Fort Myers,FL > >---------- >> barra to barra. A lot of the Pan-American Highway wasn't paved at >that >> time. The roughest part was between Rio Mar and David in Panama, also >it > >> seemed at all the bridges in Guatemala were out. Our biggest problem >was > >> getting papers to get our bikes in and out of the different countries >> along the way. >> >> Bernie > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >[172.31.109.10]) by air25.mail.aol.com (v36.0) with SMTP; Sat, 13 Dec >1997 08:30:30 -0500 > by relay10.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id JAA18208; > Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:23:26 -0500 (EST) > by alutia.micapeak.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA31989; > Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:14:24 -0800 >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:14:24 -0800 >Errors-To: motolist-owner@micapeak.com >Originator: motolist@micapeak.com >From: "Vincent Santamaria" >To: Cybertwisties at your fingertips >Subject: Re: Re: Stereotypes and longevity > > >----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id HAA03032 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:43:53 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Rifle really secure? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:20:33 -0500 I didn't install mine; but, when I I got it home, I tightened the nuts a tad more than finger tight. I did use a screwdriver but did't force the plastic screws. Mine is very secure and I have ridden the bike wide open without mishap. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Wilson [SMTP:deere@linknet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 1997 1:10 PM To: Douglas Ford Cc: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle really secure? I installed mine with my fingers tightly wrapped around a screw driver with a wrench on the nut side. The last screw to be tightened was in the center of the shield and it cracked. I closely checked every thing out and determined that the holes in the shield were spaced farther apart than the holes in the base leaving a gap under the shield in the center. I called Rifle and they replaced the shield. When I installed the new one I drilled out the holes in the base to match the holes in the shield and tightened the screws firmly with no problems. The shield is very firm and works great. Well worth the money. Just don't tighten any thing up until you know it all aligns. I would also suggest you snug the screws from the center of the shield out to the edge. If there has to be any adjustment it can be done at the edge. Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston LA Douglas Ford wrote: > Hiya again. > > Just a quick question. When a new Rifle winshield get installed on > anyone's bike, does it feel/fit/install securely? I remember a couple > weeks ago, people were really pointing out that 'finger-tight' was as > far as you take it. But how can finger-tight be secure enough for > severe cross-winds on the highway, and how does it hold up to full > covers? Don't mean to be so critical, just at the point now where I'm > reaching for my wallet and beginning to second-guess it. Thanks > muchos!! > > Doug > Odenton, MD > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id HAA03254 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:59:49 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: new thread - what is a motorcycle anyway? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:48:41 -0500 Surfing the Motorcycle Online site, I found an article on the 1997 Harley Davidson FXSTSB Bad Boy http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcharley/badboy.html This is a $14,000, 1400cc semi-rigid tail, spinger fork motorcycle which the writer describes as "a great city bike". Excuse me? An expensive, 620 lb, noisy, vibrating, pogo-ing, kidney bruising monster is a great city bike? I know I'm a little prejudiced here but I just don't get it! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:18:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "M.VerVelde" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Cheapest place to order tires from? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:13:14 -0500 Try Accessory Warehouse http//www.accwhse.com ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: M.VerVelde To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Cheapest place to order tires from? Date: Saturday, December 13, 1997 9:26 PM Need to replace my front tire. Since I do 90% commuting on my PC, Im sticking with the Dunlops for now. Anyone know who sells them for the best deal- where's a good place to order them from? My dealer would cost me $148 for the front tire. Thanks in advance... Mike 89 in Stockton Ca. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:58:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Panama Crossing Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:48:25 -0500 The late Ed Culberson made it across the Darien Gap on his BMW R80 GS. The way around is a ferry from Panama to Columbia. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Regarding Panama, a couple I know tried to be the first to motorcycle > through the Darian Gap a couple years ago, and nearly died from both the > elements and the locals. Nasty territory. Knowing nothing about Panama, I > assume there is a much easier route available. BTW, they were doing it on a > two-wheel-drive motorcycle. - Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:05:50 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: new thread - what is a motorcycle anyway? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:55:40 -0500 Jim, Like the Harley boys say," If you have to ask ...." I read the same article and it did seem kinda silly. I think the best city only bike is a Honda Helix. The best city/highway bike is the PC. I'm waiting for the ( Motorcycle Online) results of the long term test of the PC. Vince in Fort Myers,FL > This is a $14,000, 1400cc semi-rigid tail, spinger fork motorcycle which the writer > describes as "a great city bike". Excuse me? An expensive, 620 lb, noisy, > vibrating, pogo-ing, kidney bruising monster is a great city bike? I know I'm a little > prejudiced here but I just don't get it! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:10:02 -0800 Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:10:00 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:10:08 -0500 Hi gang! My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage this year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is lucky to be 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it often enough to be embarrassed. The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown although I've never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, and pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The idle is as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive without stutter from any position and speed. Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of duress while it was opened up. Your inputs are welcome and appreciated. John Louk Carmel, IN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:40:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:33:02 -0500 Leaking diaphragm could be causing the gas smell but don't think that it would affect the mileage that much. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > > My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage this > year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is lucky to be > 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it often > enough to be embarrassed. > > The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown although I've > never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, and > pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The idle is > as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive without > stutter from any position and speed. > > Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of duress > while it was opened up. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:41:57 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: new thread - what is a motorcycle anyway? Vincent Santamaria wrote: > > Jim, > Like the Harley boys say," If you have to ask ...." > I read the same article and it did seem kinda silly. > I think the best city only bike is a Honda Helix. > The best city/highway bike is the PC. Since I have both I guess I have to agree especially about the Helix. It is so easy just to jump on it and go. However on the road I find its a little unstable. Bob Anundson Ko Ko San, PC Yum Yum, Helix -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:58:46 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "John Louk" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:54:59 -0500 I'd do a basic tune up and carb sync. If this is the first time you bought an air filter, hold on to your hat. After paying $60+ for one I've started cleaning mine. ---------- > From: John Louk > To: pc800 > Subject: PC800: Poor Mileage > Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 2:10 PM > > Hi gang! > > My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage this > year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is lucky to be > 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it often > enough to be embarrassed. > > The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown although I've > never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, and > pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The idle is > as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive without > stutter from any position and speed. > > Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of duress > while it was opened up. > > Your inputs are welcome and appreciated. > > John Louk > Carmel, IN > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "John Louk" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:12:51 -0600 John, Experienced a similar problem, gas smeel, lowered mileage, etc. I searched the archieves and found the information about the petcock gas valve developing a leak. When I had the bike serviced this spring I asked the service man to look for the stains around the valve. I gave him a copy of the info form the list. He confirmed that there were stains around the valve. Replaced the valve, and fuel smell "evaporated" and the mileage went up. Michael 90 PC800 "ESCAPN" > The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown although I've > never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, and > pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The idle is > as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive without > stutter from any position and speed. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:03:33 -0800 From: frans klaus To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: luggage capacity Steve Wilson wrote: > > Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. It's a 46 > liter GIVI bag with built in brake light and passenger backrest. It > holds two full coverage helmets leaving the two side bags for every > thing else. It looks as if it was designed with the PC in mind. The back > end has a wrap around reflector that looks like the lights on the bike. > While it's not cool to talk about what your lovely spent on you for > christmas the total with rack, bag, pad and light was less than $300. A > Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but > the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the > list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. > > Steve Wilson > 95 PC800 > Ruston, LA > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. I am looking for some extra luggage capacity, and the GIVI looks to be the part. I would like to know if the container is (easily) detachable from its rack, because during the summer I am taking my cricketgear in a bag (over 3' long) lengthwise (not to interfere with backward view in the mirrors) on the pillion seat, extending over the back of the bike. The luggagerack would form a usefull support for the bag, but the GIVI would be very much in the way. Hope you will all get nicely through the winter, I will keep on driving, Just had hadlebargrip heaters installed, works wonderfull! Greetings, frans -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SJP24891; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:21:08 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: MikeTW@worldnet.att.net Cc: johnnytech@email.msn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:20:43 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) How do you clean it, Mike? Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:54:59 -0500 "Mike Whited" writes: >I'd do a basic tune up and carb sync. >If this is the first time you bought an air filter, hold on to your >hat. > >After paying $60+ for one I've started cleaning mine. > >---------- >> From: John Louk >> To: pc800 >> Subject: PC800: Poor Mileage >> Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 2:10 PM >> >> Hi gang! >> >> My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage >this >> year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is >lucky to >be >> 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it >often >> enough to be embarrassed. >> >> The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown >although >I've >> never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, >and >> pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The >idle >is >> as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive >without >> stutter from any position and speed. >> >> Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of >duress >> while it was opened up. >> >> Your inputs are welcome and appreciated. >> >> John Louk >> Carmel, IN >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body >of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:18:38 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:19:15 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tire Plugging - THANKS everyone! God, I love this list! A few days ago, I posted a simple message asking everyone's opinion about (temporarily) plugging a rear K177. Literally within 40 minutes of that posting, the first of what would be over a dozen thoughtful and cogent replies (over a period of two or three days) came back. Of course, the concensus was, esentially, "It's not a good idea but it should be okay... maybe." So I'm just as confused as I was before I asked the question... but by golly, I love this list! No, seriously, thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies. After digesting all of the diverse responses, I'm left with the general overall impression that, while, as a practical matter I'll probably not have a problem (especially because I'm riding cautiously and because it's only for a short time), if I *really* want to be responsible, I should probably get to the task of replacing the tire *ASAP*. I guess I pretty much already knew that. But I wanted to see if any gems of wisdom would come from this list's responses. For example, one gem was the little item about presuming the tire to be one load and speed level lower as a consequence of plugging. Good info! Whether it's provably accurate or not doesn't rerally matter. It makes sense to me so I'm presuming it to be true and I'm acting accordingly. (Sorry I can't remember who posted it, but thanks!) Occasionally, for brief moments, we may tick each other off and not always get along on this darned list, but our common love for the PC combined the fact that, generally speaking, motorcycle folks are *good* folks, makes this a terrific list no matter what. I'm glad I subscribe. Thanks, again, everyone who responded. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:33:28 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:34:42 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Trailer pulling Hello all, Anyone out there pulling a trailer w/ your PC? I could use a little input. How does the PC pull? Enough power? How does it affect braking? Ect... It's just about time to take my first "pull". I would kinda like to know what to expect. Any help greatly appreciated. James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:26:08 -0500 From: Dave Bartlett To: Frans.Klaus@net.HCC.nl Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: luggage capacity On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 11:03:33PM -0800, frans klaus wrote: -> -> I am looking for some extra luggage capacity, and the GIVI looks to be -> the part. I would like to know if the container is (easily) detachable -> from its rack, because during the summer I am taking my cricketgear in a -> bag (over 3' long) lengthwise (not to interfere with backward view in -> the mirrors) on the pillion seat, extending over the back of the bike. -> The luggagerack would form a usefull support for the bag, but the GIVI -> would be very much in the way. -> -> Hope you will all get nicely through the winter, I will keep on driving, -> Just had hadlebargrip heaters installed, works wonderfull! Yes... it is.. I have one of those on my PC also. Unfortunately, I haven't needed it yet.. :) - dlb -- +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | Phone: (919) 472-2442 | Pager: (800) 796-7363 | | Customer Engineering | Fax : (919) 472-2963 | Pin : 104-0576 | | System Administrator | Email: dlb@cisco.com | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA29945; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:57:41 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:53:05 -0800 To: "Mike Whited" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Panama Crossing I don't doubt that the Darian has been done, but my friends didn't make it. Their motorcycle broke down, the rains came, and the bandidos held them physically hostage for a number of days. It was bad enough that they decided that was their last expedition. Amazing, since I think the hard part was only 50 miles or 90 miles or something like that. They had previously circled the globe (lands end to lands end) and done some other crazy things, but the Darian Gap proved to them that they were getting too old for this "stuff". I think I've _always_ been too old for that kind of stuff. I don't even like to stay in hotels where you can't drink the water. Such is the life of a 'wuss'. BTW, I don't think I'd like a two-wheel-drive motorcycle either. Greg Chambers At 09:14 AM 12/14/97 -0500, you wrote: >As far as I know the Darian has been done. > >---------- >> From: Greg Chambers >> To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >> Subject: Re: PC800: Panama Crossing >> Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 12:17 AM >> >> Regarding Panama, a couple I know tried to be the first to motorcycle >> through the Darian Gap a couple years ago, and nearly died from both the >> elements and the locals. Nasty territory. Knowing nothing about Panama, >I >> assume there is a much easier route available. BTW, they were doing it >on a >> two-wheel-drive motorcycle. - Greg Chambers >> >> At 01:12 PM 12/13/97 EST, you wrote: >> >From: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) >> >Reply-to: motolist@micapeak.com >> >To: motolist@micapeak.com (Cybertwisties at your fingertips) >> >Just did the a similiar trip from Texas to Panama last Jan/Feb.That >strip >> >from Rio Mar in Costa Rica and David in Panama is still very bad but you >> >can bypass some of it on a little better road. The Panama roads were the >> >best. The Costa Rican roads were the worst. Still problems getting in >and >> >out of countries. Requires a sense of humor and much patience otherwise >> >you >> >will go crazy. One country required five different stamps on a little >> >green >> >piece of paper in order to leave the country. The exit guard didn't want > >> >to >> >see the paper but we made him look at it after we had to stand in >> >different >> >lines for over 2 hours waiting for the hunt and peck clerks to fill out >> >different papers. The biggest joke was the decontamination of your >> >motorcycle. They sprayed the tires of your bike on the bottom sides only >> >for $5.00. >> >I'm going again but taking three months instead of two next time. Great >> >trip and nice people. >> >Vince in Fort Myers,FL >> > >> >---------- >> >> barra to barra. A lot of the Pan-American Highway wasn't paved at >> >that >> >> time. The roughest part was between Rio Mar and David in Panama, also > >> >it >> > >> >> seemed at all the bridges in Guatemala were out. Our biggest problem >> >was >> > >> >> getting papers to get our bikes in and out of the different countries >> >> along the way. >> >> >> >> Bernie >> > >> > >> >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> >[172.31.109.10]) by air25.mail.aol.com (v36.0) with SMTP; Sat, 13 Dec >> >1997 08:30:30 -0500 >> > by relay10.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) >> > with ESMTP id JAA18208; >> > Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:23:26 -0500 (EST) >> > by alutia.micapeak.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA31989; >> > Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:14:24 -0800 >> >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:14:24 -0800 >> >Errors-To: motolist-owner@micapeak.com >> >Originator: motolist@micapeak.com >> >From: "Vincent Santamaria" >> >To: Cybertwisties at your fingertips >> >Subject: Re: Re: Stereotypes and longevity >> > >> > >> >----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- >> >-- >> >Visit the PC800 web page at >> >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Visit the PC800 web page at >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:21:24 -0600 From: Steve Wilson To: Frans.Klaus@net.HCC.nl CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: luggage capacity Frans, The bag detaches easily with the push of a single button. It takes about two seconds to remove and about four seconds to attach. With the bag removed the rack to which it was attached remains and makes an ideal place to tie down your gear. I think you would be very happy with the bag and rack. Merry Christmas Steve Wilson 95 PC800 Ruston LA frans klaus wrote: > Steve Wilson wrote: > > > > Just finished installing my christmas present from my wife. It's a 46 > > liter GIVI bag with built in brake light and passenger backrest. It > > holds two full coverage helmets leaving the two side bags for every > > thing else. It looks as if it was designed with the PC in mind. The back > > end has a wrap around reflector that looks like the lights on the bike. > > While it's not cool to talk about what your lovely spent on you for > > christmas the total with rack, bag, pad and light was less than $300. A > > Corbin or a Russell will be next. The Corbin is easier to look at but > > the Russell looks to be more comfy where it counts. Has anyone on the > > list tried both and could offer an opinion. Thanks for being there. > > > > Steve Wilson > > 95 PC800 > > Ruston, LA > > > > -- > > Visit the PC800 web page at > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > I am looking for some extra luggage capacity, and the GIVI looks to be > the part. I would like to know if the container is (easily) detachable > from its rack, because during the summer I am taking my cricketgear in a > bag (over 3' long) lengthwise (not to interfere with backward view in > the mirrors) on the pillion seat, extending over the back of the bike. > The luggagerack would form a usefull support for the bag, but the GIVI > would be very much in the way. > > Hope you will all get nicely through the winter, I will keep on driving, > Just had hadlebargrip heaters installed, works wonderfull! > > Greetings, > > frans > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:05:25 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: stator costs Hi, Scot: My dealer wanted $247 for a new stator and quoted $80 labor to install it. I had my old stator rewound for $130 and put it in myself. The installation was a tedious task that took me what amounted to 2 days by the time it was all over. If I had it all to do over again, I think I would try to get the dealer to send the old stator out for rewinding and then install it for me (if they would really do it for $80). If the stator is bad, you should also check out the regulator/rectifier. Mine was OK, but it is possible for a bad regulator/rectifier to be the cause of the stator failure. Good luck. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:52:49 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:41:35 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Ed Culberson To: HondaPacificCoastOwners The late Ed Culberson made it across the Darien Gap on his BMW R80 GS. Th= e way around is a ferry from Panama to Columbia. Vince in Fort Myers,FL = Ed's bike is on exhibit at the AMA museum in Westerville, Ohio... Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:40:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer pulling Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:30:22 -0500 James, What trailer and hitch do you have on your PC? I had a Bushtec trailer on my previous 1990 PC. No problem with pulling or handling. Be extra careful with the added load for braking especially in the wet. I sold it because I ended up taking too much junk on my trips. Maybe I'll get another for my current PC if I can restrain myself from loading it up with too much junk. It was handy at the time since I was working as a Deputy Sheriff. I could ride it to work with all my cop equipment. I didn't have a take home cop car. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > Anyone out there pulling a trailer w/ your PC? I could use a little > input. How does the PC pull? Enough power? How does it affect braking? > Ect... > It's just about time to take my first "pull". I would kinda like to know > what to expect. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:59:19 -0500 To: Craig Carter , "'PC800 Group (List)'" From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: Re: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover At 12:18 AM 12/12/97 -0600, Craig Carter wrote: > Those of you who have installed heated handgrips and use motorcycle >covers, what's the BEST for the PC800? Although I could read all the older >messages, I want to get the latest opinions on what's available. Craig, Although I don't need heated grips here in sunny Florida, :) I do have to use a cover, since I don't have a garage, and have to leave my bike in the open at work for 3 days at a time. I currently have a Dow Canvas G125 for touring/full dress. It fits well on my 89PC with tall windshield and stock passenger rest. My friend has one size smaller for his PC with the stock shield and no back rest. Mine cost $79.49 at the Honda dealer, although you could probably get it cheaper elsewhere. The great thing is that it comes with a lifetime warranty. My friend returned his last one after a year and they gave him a new one.(the Florida sun is BRUTAL!) The problem is you have to send it prepaid, whatever that costs. This is my third cover in three years, I don't remember the first brand, but my last one was a Nelson Rigg and my Dow is much better than they were. Bill Johnson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:02:31 +0100 To: "Michael S. Brown" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: HPCE Gerard Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage At 14:12 14-12-97 -0600, Michael S. Brown wrote: >John, > >Experienced a similar problem, gas smeel, lowered mileage, etc. I searched >the archieves and found the information about the petcock gas valve >developing a leak. Although my English is reasonable good I can't find in the manual the so called "petcock gas valve", can someone explain to a Dutch person where this little or big thing is located, and if there is another name for it, my first guess was the carburetor but I'm not sure. I have just 3 days left to work this year and I want to do some maintenance, and I have the same gas smell, and to do some cleaning after 4 months!!!! Yes I know, I'm lazy, normally I clean it 3-4 times a year. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacific Coast Rocky Mountain 1998 tour: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/rocky-mountain98-tour.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:51:35 -0800 "Re: PC800: Tim?" (Dec 12, 5:20pm) To: "Wanda Bailie" , "John Louk" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tim? Thanks Wanda! :-) Ramin On Dec 12, 5:20pm, Wanda Bailie wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Tim? I will tell him Sunday when I will see him again that > there is concern for him. > Wanda Bailie'95 PC800"Black Beauty" '91 Suzuki Bandit"Red Robber" > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:650-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Dana L. Sawyer'" , HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: RE: PC800: Ed Culberson Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:26:16 -0800 Ed wrote a book about his successful Darien Gap crossing called "Obsessions Die Hard -- Motorcycling the Pan American Highway's Jungle Gap". It's published by Whitehorse Press, a gold mine for publications on motorcycling. http://www.whitehorsepress.com, 1-800-531-1133. Ed's book is fantastic! I read it on my recent Fall Tour and it was difficult to put down each night. Thanks for the tip Dana about his bike, "Amigo", being at the AMA museum. Another-must-see when I finally get to the museum later this spring. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:46:47 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Mike Whited Cc: John Louk , pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage I paid in the $28-30 range from Cycle Design. Roger Prince Mike Whited wrote: > > I'd do a basic tune up and carb sync. > If this is the first time you bought an air filter, hold on to your hat. > > After paying $60+ for one I've started cleaning mine. > > ---------- > > From: John Louk -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Greg Chambers'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Local Electrical Storm Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:26:51 -0800 Regarding the 4-way flasher, the exact same thing happened to me! We were VERY careful while installing to heed their warning yet when we powered it up it was toast. I sent it back for repair hoping it would be a warranty item. They claimed that it wasn't defective and that we had grounded it out. Instead of fuss with them (I hate their service if you recall) I just paid the repair cost (about $20). Of course, this is the part they "lost" on me that took a phone call a month later to get it back. Repaired part works great! Hazard lights should be standard equipment on any sport-tourer IMHO. That and two trip-meters, one for the days' mileage and the other for the current tank of gas. If I didn't need that damn flasher I never would have put up with their crap. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:31:08 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: RE: PC800: Local Electrical Storm crosoft.com> At 12:26 12/15/97 -0800, you wrote: > >If I didn't need that damn flasher I never would have put up with their >crap. Bryce, you probably researched the subject quite thoroughly but... are there any alternatives to this outfit for a 4-way flasher? Juan If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Douglas Ford'" , PC800 Mailing List Subject: RE: PC800: Rifle really secure? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:34:41 -0800 30k+ miles and my +4 Rifle is still going. That's through rain, snow, extreme hot/cold temps, wild winds, and a CycleWiper windshield wiper wiping the surface. The foam tape between the lower section and the clear shield will eventually bond to the shield making for a near permanent mount. The shield will flex but it won't go anywhere. No worries. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Juan A. Goula'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Local Electrical Storm Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:37:47 -0800 I'm not aware of any. I looked before buying but with it being a relatively low cost item I didn't look very hard. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:54:33 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Scalisi" To: bryceu@microsoft.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:50:23 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Rifle really secure? What is a CycleWiper? How does it work? Where do you get it? bryceu@microsoft.com on 12/15/97 03:34:41 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dford@tidalwave.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: (bcc: John Scalisi/CHQ/Loctite Americas) Subject: RE: PC800: Rifle really secure? 30k+ miles and my +4 Rifle is still going. That's through rain, snow, extreme hot/cold temps, wild winds, and a CycleWiper windshield wiper wiping the surface. The foam tape between the lower section and the clear shield will eventually bond to the shield making for a near permanent mount. The shield will flex but it won't go anywhere. No worries. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: Craig Carter , "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: RE: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:48:54 -0800 My favorite cover is from "EZTouring" I believe (don't have the cover nearby but I think that's the name). They are made/marketed by a BMW rider in Bend, OR. I have their half-cover (Size A) for the PC800 and it's the absolute best when touring. When camping I really like it because it compacts very small and it's waterproof. Using the cover I can leave all my gear piled up on top of the motorcycle (helmet, stitch, bags, etc) and the cover keeps 'em out of the weather and high and dry instead of in the tent with me. NOTE: I wouldn't recommend this cover for daily/regular long term storage. You'll want something more substantial like the Dow Canvas covers. EZTouring regularly runs their ad in the back of motorcycle mags or you can order them from Whitehorse Press. Here's the product summary from http://www.whitehorsepress.com . Size A fits my PC very well, even with the tall shield and the gear I'll strap on the back. -------------- Ultra Light Cycle Covers for Travel We first learned of these covers from friends who used them every night during our travels together. They would start the day with a clean, dry bike and seat, while we would have to spend ten or fifteen minutes wiping the dew from ours. We were amazed at the compact size of these covers when they were packed. Made of light-weight, rip-stop parachute nylon, the full cover easily fits into a helmet and the half cover into a side pocket. Both are small enough to take with you wherever you ride. We find that coverage also improves security by keeping curious eyes off your bike, especially at night. Packing and unpacking is a snap. Give your motorcycle--and your backside--the pampering they deserve. We stock black only in the three sizes listed below, and can ship these immediately. Covers are available in a variety of other colors on special order with longer delivery time. Call for specific details. Size B (smallest size) fits smaller touring bikes such as BMW (without trunk), Ducati, Kawasaki Concours, Norton, BSA, Triumph, etc. Size A (medium size) fits 1000-1200cc Hondas, most Harleys, Venture, BMW with travel trunk, and other large touring bikes. Size X (biggest size) fits 1500/6 Hondas, Cavalcade, Voyager. Some very dressed A-types may need this one. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. crosoft.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:02:10 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: RE: PC800: Local Electrical Storm >At 12:26 12/15/97 -0800, Bryce wrote: >> >>If I didn't need that damn flasher I never would have put up with their >>crap. > ..and Juan replied... >Bryce, you probably researched the subject quite thoroughly but... are >there any alternatives to this outfit for a 4-way flasher? > >Juan > How easy/difficult would it be to use one of the automotive style flashers available at the autoparts store for a couple of bucks? Would it be possible to basically supply power to this flasher through a switch, then tap into the wiring harness for the four lights? Any electronics experts out there who have done this? I seem to remember that someone on this list has homemade 4-way flashers on their PC800. fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'John Scalisi'" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: CycleWiper details Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:24:55 -0800 Uh of, I should have known better than to casually mention "the wiper". Yes, it's a true windshield wiper made for motorcycles. It's originally designed for Gold Wings but I found it fits a Rifle shield on a PC very well. IMHO it will NOT work with the Hondaline shields because of their curvy shape. It's equipped with wiper delay and I have the control mounted in the left pocket cover. The wiper arm is removable and stores nicely in the PC's trunk. To prevent scratches and improve the wiping action they have a silicon based spray that must be used. The small can will last me well over a year here in the rainy Northwest. As an added benefit, the silicon spray works like magic to fill in the micro-scratches and improve the clarity of the Rifle. Occasionally I will use a plastic polish to restore the plastic surface. CycleWiper is made and marketed by Infinity Communications, 17725 NE 65th St # B200 Redmond, WA 98052-4911, (425) 556-9800. I THINK they still sell it but had a tough time finding a reference to it on the Internet. They sell mostly copiers and the like but also some custom Gold Wing accessories (the owner's passion). Motorcycle Consumer News featured the product a few years back when they built their "Ultimate Gold Wing". Also, I found another wiper on the Internet. See http://www.webdynamx.com/universal/road-king-inc.html -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: System Administrator Subject: PC800: Interesting ignition noise problem To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:34:39 -0600 (CST) OK, I've heard of the problem at stoplights with the bike not tripping the sensors, and I've heard about ignition noise killing radios, etc. But here's a new one. I live in an apartment complex, and often when I would try to use my access card in the gate of the complex, it wouldn't work. Other times, it would work just fine... turns out the ignition noise of the PC was thoroughly overloaded by the ignition. Solution: Turn the bike off, run the card through, then start it back up. Hopefully, this little tidbit will help someone someday from getting soaked like me, waiting for someone in a cage to come! --John '90 PC, 10.5K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "HPCE Gerard" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:46:48 -0600 Gerard, The item is called a diaphragm, it is item number 23 on page 5-8 of the service manual. What happens is the rubber diaphragm that is vacuum operated may develop pinholes in the rubber or become so warped that the seal is compromised. The casting that holds the diaphragm is usually sold with the unit. At least my service person was unable to obtain just the diaphragm. The unit is also referred to as the "air cut off valve". > At 14:12 14-12-97 -0600, Michael S. Brown wrote: > >Experienced a similar problem, gas smell, lowered mileage, etc. I searched > >the archieves and found the information about the petcock gas valve > >developing a leak. > Although my English is reasonable good I can't find in the manual the so > called "petcock gas valve", can someone explain to a Dutch person where > this little or big thing is located, and if there is another name for it, > my first guess was the carburetor but I'm not sure. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:25:08 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: Cc: "John Louk" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:58:19 -0500 Was this OEM or aftermarket? and what/where is Cycle Design? I mean $30 is a lot for a filter but much better then $60!! ---------- > From: Roger Prince > To: Mike Whited > Cc: John Louk ; pc800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage > Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 2:46 PM > > I paid in the $28-30 range from Cycle Design. > > Roger Prince > > > Mike Whited wrote: > > > > I'd do a basic tune up and carb sync. > > If this is the first time you bought an air filter, hold on to your hat. > > > > After paying $60+ for one I've started cleaning mine. > > > > ---------- > > > From: John Louk -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:25:06 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Dana L. Sawyer" , "HondaPacificCoastOwners" Subject: Re: PC800: Ed Culberson Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:54:01 -0500 ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dana L. Sawyer To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: PC800: Ed Culberson Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 8:41 AM The late Ed Culberson made it across the Darien Gap on his BMW R80 GS. The way around is a ferry from Panama to Columbia. Vince in Fort Myers,FL Ed's bike is on exhibit at the AMA museum in Westerville, Ohio... Dana I'll have to stop by and see it...-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:25:11 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Richard A Hardy" Cc: , Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:25:46 -0500 I bought my first (and only) air filter last year as a spare for my trip to Alaska. After about 5000 miles (700 on gravel and dirt) I decided to swap it out.I noticed that it came in a sealed plastic bag and that the filter was coated with a fine oil like WD-40.I had never seen this with a paper filter before. By the time I got home it was time to change again but I wasn't ready to drop anothr $60 so I figured I try to clean it and keep it as a spare. I use kerosene and a tooth brush knocking off the loose crud with the brush and then rinsing it with kerosene being careful not to get any dirt on the "inside" of the filter. I then blow the filter out with compressed air in install it. It's alot like the foam or gauze reusable filters...always flush from the inside or carb side to the outside. NEVER LET DIRT TOUCH THE INSIDE OF THE FILTER. I have two filters and swap them out about every 6000 miles (mainly to keep an eye on there condition) I have 15000 miles on them and haven't had a problem yet , if I do I'll post it here. I haven't seen a performance or MPG drop and they don't seem to get dirty any faster. I thought they would because of the oil residue. ---------- > From: Richard A Hardy > To: MikeTW@worldnet.att.net > Cc: johnnytech@email.msn.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage > Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 6:20 PM > > How do you clean it, Mike? > > Richard Hardy, San Diego > rahardy@juno.com > > On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:54:59 -0500 "Mike Whited" > writes: > >I'd do a basic tune up and carb sync. > >If this is the first time you bought an air filter, hold on to your > >hat. > > > >After paying $60+ for one I've started cleaning mine. > > > >---------- > >> From: John Louk > >> To: pc800 > >> Subject: PC800: Poor Mileage > >> Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 2:10 PM > >> > >> Hi gang! > >> > >> My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage > >this > >> year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is > >lucky to > >be > >> 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it > >often > >> enough to be embarrassed. > >> > >> The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown > >although > >I've > >> never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, > >and > >> pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The > >idle > >is > >> as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive > >without > >> stutter from any position and speed. > >> > >> Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of > >duress > >> while it was opened up. > >> > >> Your inputs are welcome and appreciated. > >> > >> John Louk > >> Carmel, IN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Visit the PC800 web page at > >> To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body > >of a > >> message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >> To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > >a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:32:29 -0600 From: Bernie Bradley To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Local Electrical Storm[Fwd: alt hazards...Credit : Pete Fyler!!] --------------B855DD64864E83C0D7AD066D Here you are. I was just thinking about sending it when you "wondered". I haven't tried it yet, but it's printed out to go out and buy. -- Bernie Bradley Champaign, IL `97 ST "PAN-ACEA" "Time's Fun When You're Having Flies!" STOC#(B-R?)FIVE-FOUR-NINE HSTA#7764 RG HRCA NRA --------------B855DD64864E83C0D7AD066D ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:25:06 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: ddfst@sprynet.com CC: ST1100@ST1100.com Subject: Re: alt hazards...Credit : Pete Fyler!! Ok. Stahhhht with a NAPA #537 12v alternating flasher, a flasher socket: NAPA LS6246, a Champion mini fuse holder #8-165, a switch: TG6145, and some wire, soldering gun, shrink tubing, and tie wraps....(All for your NAPA dealer... others should have interchange books) Wire From the (+) batt terminal through the fuse holder to the 'X' terminal on the flasher. From 'P' terminal to the R side if the switch, to the right directional load (light blu). From the 'L' terminal through the switch to the left(OrANGE).Insert the fuse & on with the switch... Voila! wig wag hazards!! He recommends a 15 Amp fuse Switch is a single throw (on/off) double pole switch (2 circuits)...and while I haven't done it yet, I *SuspecT* one can break the hot wire with a simple on/off... if no feedback occurs. If this is so it should be a simple thing to power up your brake light flasher at the same time... then both your hazards and brake lights would be the same with the alternating ambers and flashing red... I'll get to mine *after* it snows here... farkle farkel. Bill Don Feyma wrote: > > > Bill McKenna wrote: > > > Pete Fyler gave me a schematic for alternating hazard flashers... >Koo-el > > Pete. Thanks. > > Share it with the reST of us, please! > > See ya! > -- > Best Regards, > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ Don Feyma ddfst@sprynet.com ~~~~~~~~ > ~~ on ArreSTme ('96 ST1100) ~~~~~~~~ > ~~ NESTOC97, GOIT97, WeSTOC97(BD), KoTL ~~~~~~~~ > ~~ Ya, Let's Go Ride, you betcha! ~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Keeper of The ST1100 List, which is: > THE USA's One and Only, Original, Inclusive, Unmitigated, > Unmoderated, Unlimited, Unabashed, Unrivaled, Unparalleled, > Gathering Place for STOC members, STriders and STrider-wannabees, > and THE Authoritative Source for ST Info in the USA and the world; > Including (but not limited to): > Maintenance Info, Ride Reports, STOC Rally Info, ST Banter, > Ride-in Restaurant Reports, Aftermarket Equipment Info, > Headshake and Tire (Tyre) threads, and > Any other ST1100 or STOC-related Thing We Can Think Of." --------------B855DD64864E83C0D7AD066D-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA13378 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:39:51 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Panama Crossing Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:27:03 -0500 Regarding crossing the Darian Gap, Greg knew of someone who had attempted it on a two wheel drive motorcyle and Dana pointed out that Ed Culbertson had done it on a BMW R80. I've never been there or even seen a picture for that matter so I speaking from total ignorance (so what's new, you say) And, while I certainly understand that being kidnapped by bandidos could spoil your whole day, from a purely theoretical perspective, I'd think a good enduro bike or maybe a even a dual-sport would be a much better choice than either the beemer or one of those very strange two-wheel drive contraptions. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id VAA13375 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:39:47 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:38:37 -0500 John, I'd look for a gasoline leak. It may be on the downstream side of the vacumn operated fuel cock so the bike may have to be running (or you may have to provide a vacumn to simulate running) to find it. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: John Louk [SMTP:johnnytech@email.msn.com] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 1997 2:10 PM To: pc800 Subject: PC800: Poor Mileage Hi gang! My '90 PC with only 27K miles on it sure has dropped its gas mileage this year. From a norm highway cruise of 50 - 57 mpg, the average is lucky to be 40+ mpg! No change in riding habits. I use Mobil 1 and change it often enough to be embarrassed. The cycle emits a fairly obvious raw gas smell upon shutdown although I've never seen a puddle or other sign of incontinence. It starts, runs, and pulls well and strongly without sign of stress to the engine. The idle is as smooth as it gets for a PC and the motor/throttle is responsive without stutter from any position and speed. Any ideas? TimM suggested a new air filter. No change or sign of duress while it was opened up. Your inputs are welcome and appreciated. John Louk Carmel, IN -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:40:54 EST To: John_Scalisi@loctite.com, bryceu@MICROSOFT.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle really secure? In a message dated 97-12-15 19:54:50 EST, John_Scalisi@loctite.com writes: << What is a CycleWiper? >> Yeah, what is that, anyhow? John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Tim? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 Dec 1997 22:19:24 -0600 Lines: 9 >>>>> "WB" == Wanda Bailie writes: WB> I saw Tim last Saturday and he said he hadn't checked his e-mail WB> in over 2 weeks. I can see that now; his address is generating piles of bounce messages because its completely full. Ugh. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) 16 Dec 1997 05:51:28 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:45:06 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: Re: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover To: Bryce Ulrich , Craig Carter , "'PC800 Group (List)'" Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" Yeah, I agree with bryce. I had the Honda cover that came with my first PC I purchased. It was bulky and soon shredded. I then bought the EZ tourer (full cover) for my planned solo trip, it is nice, small, compact. If you want to pack light, and have enuf stuff for a trip (without the lazy-boy recliner on a bushtec trailer like Vince, hee. just kidding Vince...) this one saves room. I looked at the Dow cover. They are good too, but after seeing how much room the Honda cover hogged, I decided for a good quality, compact cover. Works great. Mike V 89 PC -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: Craig Carter ; 'PC800 Group (List)' Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 2:50 PM Subject: RE: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover >My favorite cover is from "EZTouring" I believe (don't have the cover nearby >but I think that's the name). They are made/marketed by a BMW rider in >Bend, OR. I have their half-cover (Size A) for the PC800 and it's the >absolute best when touring. When camping I really like it because it >compacts very small and it's waterproof. Using the cover I can leave all my >gear piled up on top of the motorcycle (helmet, stitch, bags, etc) and the >cover keeps 'em out of the weather and high and dry instead of in the tent >with me. NOTE: I wouldn't recommend this cover for daily/regular long >term storage. You'll want something more substantial like the Dow Canvas >covers. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:18:49 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer pulling Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:09:15 -0500 James, Bushtec made/makes a hitch for the PC. They advertise in most all the cycle mags. My trailer was the Turbo model. Call/write them and they will send you all the info. Vimce in Fort Myers,FL---------- > I would like to hear a little about your trailer/trailer hitch. > Dimension, trailer weight, tongue weight. Anything else that you can > think of that might help. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 09:18:42 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Mike Whited Cc: John Louk , pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage OEM parts. It's a year ago I bought an air filter. The oil filters were <$7, any quantity. Cycle Design is located in Phillipston, MA. Honda/Kaw/Yam/Suz dealer. 1-800-343-1374. Be sure to tell him you are from the PC list and I sent you. Roger Mike Whited wrote: > > Was this OEM or aftermarket? and what/where is Cycle Design? > > I mean $30 is a lot for a filter but much better then $60!! > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:27:46 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Panama Crossing/Ed Culberson Hi All: Ed was a good friend and fine man. His Darien Gap crossing was quite an adventure, and I am ever so greatful that I turned him down when he asked me to go along. Strictly speaking it wasn't really what you would call a ride. The terrain is simply impassible. Ed mostly pushed, pulled, and dragged the BMW. He also spent quite a bit of time on a raft and in a dugout canoe to get through the wet places. The reason he chose the BMW over a lighter, more-dirt-worthy machine is that the Darien was only one part of a "ride" that started in Alaska near the Arctic circle and ended at Tiera del Fuego. It wasn't a single trip. He did the Alaska to Panama run (including a failed attempt at the Darien) a year or so before his successful crossing. After crossing the Gap, he continued southward until he ran out of continent. The BMW was not the best bike for the 50 hellish miles through the Darien, but it was well suited for the other 99.9% of the trip(s). JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:27:50 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Hi John: Poor mileage as others have pointed out could be due to a dirty air filter. It could also be the result of worn/sticking float needles in one or both carbs. If the exhaust outlet is black with soot, then one or both of these "mixture enrichers" could stand some scrutiny. If the exhaust outlet is tan, then a leak is probably the culprit. Of course riding faster, installing a larger windscreen, running at higher altitude, or riding against strong headwinds could also do the trick. Let us know what you find. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:16:32 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, Crystal Goula , http: From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Merry Chritsmas For those of you who like Science Fiction, Christmas and humor, I bet you'll get a laugh from this: http://christmas.com/html/eib.html Merry Christmas everyone! Juan & Crystal Goula Fairbanks (just a ways from North Pole) Alaska -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:48:18 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: Cc: "John Louk" , "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:46:37 -0500 Thanks, I'll look into it. Mike Columbus, OH ---------- > From: Roger Prince > To: Mike Whited > Cc: John Louk ; pc800 > Subject: Re: PC800: Poor Mileage > Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 9:18 AM > > OEM parts. It's a year ago I bought an air filter. The oil filters > were <$7, any quantity. > Cycle Design is located in Phillipston, MA. Honda/Kaw/Yam/Suz dealer. > 1-800-343-1374. > Be sure to tell him you are from the PC list and I sent you. > > Roger > > > Mike Whited wrote: > > > > Was this OEM or aftermarket? and what/where is Cycle Design? > > > > I mean $30 is a lot for a filter but much better then $60!! > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 17 Dec 1997 10:02:20 -0500 From: "Ted Gerarden" Subject: PC800: Best cover To: "PC800 list" I noticed an email that asked, among other things, for comments on the best cover for the PC. I currently have a Dow 100 full dress canvas cover which came with the bike when I bought it used a few months ago. After finding some water underneath after heavy rain, I applied seam sealant (the tent variety) to the seams and sprayed it with scotchguard. Some improvement, perhaps, but I still find some water underneath after heavy rain; also, in very humid conditions, some water seems to condense under the cover. Not bad overall, but as winter approaches (no, we haven't had snow here yet and, in fact, it's been mild enough this week for me to ride to work with a slight bending of my usual 40 degree rule) I've been thinking about getting a new cover. I cannot garage the PC. Is the Dow canvas the best overall product for winter and severe weather protection? Should I expect even with the best cover to find some moisture migrating under the cover and finding its way to the cycle? Any comments are welcome--thanks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:24:49 EST To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ed Culberson Ed Culberson supposably published a book of the travels down through the Americas. Does anyone out there know the name or the publisher of Ed's book? I would sure like to read it. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:40:39 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: HPCE Gerard Subject: PC800: Canaries???? It's yellow, doesn't fly and comes to the rescue... ... a yellow Emergency PC800 in Austria, want to see this? Go to our pictures page at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/yellow.htm or the mirror site: http://www.denver.net/~agray/pictures/yellow.htm Now you see why we all choose Pacific Coasts, it's there when you need it (normally!). Page may take 1.5 to 2 minutes to load. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacific Coast Rocky Mountain 1998 tour: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/rocky-mountain98-tour.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:43:17 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:48:16 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: HPCE Gerard CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Canaries???? THAT is wild!! A banana PC! Even the Givi trunk is painted. But where's the CD player in case mine is broken during a ride? :P Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" HPCE Gerard wrote: > It's yellow, doesn't fly and comes to the rescue... > > ... a yellow Emergency PC800 in Austria, want to see this? Go to our > pictures page at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/yellow.htm > or the mirror site: http://www.denver.net/~agray/pictures/yellow.htm > > Now you see why we all choose Pacific Coasts, it's there when you need it > (normally!). > > Page may take 1.5 to 2 minutes to load. > > Gerard -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'BernieK469'" , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Ed Culberson Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:55:05 -0800 Ed wrote a book about his successful Darien Gap crossing called "Obsessions Die Hard -- Motorcycling the Pan American Highway's Jungle Gap". It's published by Whitehorse Press, a gold mine for publications on motorcycling. http://www.whitehorsepress.com , 1-800-531-1133. Ed's book is fantastic! I read it on my recent Fall Tour and it was difficult to put down each night. Thanks for the tip Dana about his bike, "Amigo", being at the AMA museum. Another-must-see when I finally get to the museum later this spring. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:05:12 -0800 From: Philip Lewis To: jlai@css.filenet.com CC: HPCE Gerard , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Canaries???? That does it!! I can't take this lying down!! I'm going to paint mine "MIDAS GOLD!" I haven't seen a gold PC yet!! Phil Mission Viejo, CA '90 "Delta Red" Johan Lai wrote: > > THAT is wild!! A banana PC! Even the Givi trunk is painted. > But where's the CD player in case mine is broken during a > ride? :P > > Johan Lai > Orange, CA > '89 "Cassandra" > > HPCE Gerard wrote: > > > It's yellow, doesn't fly and comes to the rescue... > > > > ... a yellow Emergency PC800 in Austria, want to see this? Go to our > > pictures page at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/yellow.htm > > or the mirror site: http://www.denver.net/~agray/pictures/yellow.htm > > > > Now you see why we all choose Pacific Coasts, it's there when you need it > > (normally!). > > > > Page may take 1.5 to 2 minutes to load. > > > > Gerard > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:14:26 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Colored PC's <34981E6F.ADB47C94@css.filenet.com> At 13:05 12/17/97 -0800, Phil wrote: >That does it!! I can't take this lying down!! I'm going to paint mine >"MIDAS GOLD!" I haven't seen a gold PC yet!! Just as long as no one paints their PC like a 60's VW van, PLEASE! Now that I think about it, if we get enough colors together maybe we can have the M&M Mars Corp. to sponsor us. Sure, we'd have to paint big m&m logos on our bikes, but c'mon, this is free gasoline & tires we're talking about! :-) Juan If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:29:33 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Ted Gerarden" , "PC800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: Best cover Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:25:02 -0500 ---------- > From: Ted Gerarden > To: PC800 list > Subject: PC800: Best cover > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 10:02 AM > > but as winter approaches (no, we haven't had snow here yet and, in fact, it's > been mild enough this week for me to ride to work with a slight bending of my > usual 40 degree rule) Heh,heh...must be nice. I have a "no ice, no problem" rule, but then I only ride 15 miles each way... Mike > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id SAA03584 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:47:05 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Best cover Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:35:41 -0500 The weatherman predicted sunshine and 50 today... first dry day above 40 in about three weeks. Soooo, I took the afternoon off. Nance and I bundled up (Michelin Man - style) and rolled up 110 casual miles. It was great; just enough to stir up the oil in the bikes, give the batteries a good charge and kindle the desire for more "tolerable" weather in us. Tommorrow's supposed to hit 55 but unfortunately I have work-related responsibilities I can't change. The week-end brings the return of cold wet weather; guess we should count our blessings for today! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mike Whited [SMTP:MikeTW@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 4:25 PM To: Ted Gerarden; PC800 list Subject: Re: PC800: Best cover ---------- > From: Ted Gerarden > To: PC800 list > Subject: PC800: Best cover > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 10:02 AM > > but as winter approaches (no, we haven't had snow here yet and, in fact, it's > been mild enough this week for me to ride to work with a slight bending of my > usual 40 degree rule) Heh,heh...must be nice. I have a "no ice, no problem" rule, but then I only ride 15 miles each way... Mike > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id UAA08406; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:38:18 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Cc: "'dparish@randomhouse.com'" , "'stnunnally@compuserve.com'" , "'74726.2016@compuserve.com'" <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "'johnCCM@eei.org'" , "'Elbert_E_Silbaugh@MSN.com'" , "'71430.340@compuserve.com'" <71430.340@compuserve.com> Cc: "'dgordon@texoma.net'" Subject: PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:25:56 -0500 Note to List members, the .ccs are the HSTA Executive Committee HSTA members on the PC800 List will already know this but for those who aren't, there is an article in the recent Association publication, STAReview, entitled "Why I ride a PC". The author, Russell Vernon, explains his passion for the PC by stating many of the same attributes we see here on the PC List all the time. He does a good job of defending our choice of machine. Let me go on to say I am not insecure about my choice of mount. In fact, I'm quite proud of my PC (I even have a picture in my office next to my wife and kids) and feel, as I'm sure most of you do, that it is a very rational choice combining good all around performance, high value, and unique visual appeal. I've only been a member of HSTA for a few months and have attended only one event (TN-STAR) so I'm hardly an expert on the organization or its membership. However, HSTA clearly states that bikes of all makes and models are welcome and based on the articles in STAReview there seems to be a sprinkling of PCs and even an occasional Gold Wing, Harley or "standard" among the numerous VFRs, Hawks, BMWs, Ducatis and such at most events. However, my observation is that there is a strong preference for high performance sport bikes and an aggressive riding style among the membership. This in itself doesn't bother me at all and certainly membership in HSTA is optional and a matter of personal choice. However, the very fact that Mr. Vernon felt it necessary to publish his article in STAReview does bother me somewhat. Related to this concern, I shared earlier with this List the smug "joke" at my expense from an ST1100 rider at TN-STAR. It went something like, "Do you know what PC stands for? --- Pretty Close." I have a sense of humor at least as good as the average bear and my wife says a pretty thick hide. However, this remark was not offered in good humor and was, in my opinion, intended to either diminish or provoke me. It was really quite unnecessary. The name, Honda Sport Touring Association, implies a more "sporting" flavor than something like the Wingabago Chrome Hauling Association (please, Wingers, this is a good-natured joke, smile!). Now, I realize that much of the "enthusiasm" in HSTA is the result of youth, testosterone poisoning and just general male group dynamics. I wouldn't want to change that; it's part of the character of the organization. I also don't mind some good-natured kidding about my bike, riding style or whatever. I do however, resent the need to continually defend my choice of motorcycles to people who seem to think the measure of a rider is is equivilent to the potential performance of the mount. What we need here is just a little more tolerance. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:19:51 -0500 From: Jason To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Best cover Yup, today was great. The PC reported a high of 54. My father and I (he rides a CB750, loaded with hard luggage) did our holiday shopping on the bikes. It was amazing how happy I was to be out again. We're hoping that this weekend will be as nice as predicted. I had no trouble starting the bike. First time in two months, but it fired right up. After leaving the store I didn't even need to use the choke. -Jason FYI, this is CT/Western MA area. Jim Randall wrote: > The weatherman predicted sunshine and 50 today... first dry day above 40 > in about three weeks. Soooo, I took the afternoon off. Nance and I bundled > up (Michelin Man - style) and rolled up 110 casual miles. It was great; just > enough to stir up the oil in the bikes, give the batteries a good charge and > kindle the desire for more "tolerable" weather in us. Tommorrow's supposed > to hit 55 but unfortunately I have work-related responsibilities I can't change. > The week-end brings the return of cold wet weather; guess we should count > our blessings for today! > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "Jim Randall" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:48:21 -0600 Jim Randall writes: > However, the very fact that Mr. Vernon felt it necessary to publish his article > in STAReview does bother me somewhat. Related to this concern, I shared > earlier with this List the smug "joke" at my expense from an ST1100 rider at > TN-STAR. It went something like, "Do you know what PC stands for? --- > Pretty Close." I think they're pretty funny. I've run rings around some ST1100 riders (and faster bikes) on my PC800. Beat a bunch of ST1100s (and R1100RTs, K1100LTs, RF900Rs, Wings, etc.) on the Iron Butt. Got beat by some Wings, R1100RTs, and K-bikes, too. I know Reg Pridmore could run rings around me on an BMW R65. Anyday. And let's not even talk about what Mert could do on, say, an old CB450 vs. any of us. Imagine how they would react if some old coot stuffed an SR500 underneath their shiny new CBR900RR on a twisty road. Laugh at their inane prejudice and ask 'em to meet you on the other side of the continent for breakfast! Watch how fast the pretenders scurry. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP Local (PP); Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:33:09 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:52:01 -0000 Subject: PC800: Tankslapper Hi folks - Had my first 'tankslapper'. Do you use that term in the US? (wild handlebar movements from one full lock to the other) 45mph rain, country road (no mud) straight line, not braking. What causes this?? My trousers have changed colour. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:50:02 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Tankslapper At 13:52 12/18/97 -0000, John wrote: >Had my first 'tankslapper'. Do you use that term in the US? (wild >handlebar movements from one full lock to the other) Yep, that's what we call them. Really wake you up, don't they? >45mph rain, country road (no mud) straight line, not braking. >What causes this?? My trousers have changed colour. A few guesses: You hit a patch of gravel, or you ran over a little slimy critter (like a toad or similar). Maybe a pothole, maybe some motor oil or diesel fuel spilled on the road. My top guess would be you hit a deep puddle of water and caused the front tire to hydroplane, loosing all traction at the front. I assume you have checked the steering bearings, the axle bearings and the front tire pressure by now. >My trousers have changed colour. I hope your dry cleaning bill is not too expensive :-) Glad to know it wasn't worse than just you trousers. Juan If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:05:08 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tankslapper Hi, John: Yes, we use the term here too, but I've never heard it applied to a PC. Wow! I'm not sure where to begin as far as running down the cause is concerned. Possiblities that come immediately to mind are loose wheel and/or steering- head bearings, improper tire pressure, uneven tire wear, too much weight on the rear wheel . . . . You said it was raining; maybe you got into a situation that produced hydroplaning. You wouldn't normally have a problem with that at 45mph, but . . . . Any standing water or puddles? How much tread is on the front tire? Was the tire pressure at about 33 psig? Anybody else got any ideas? JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:29:10 -0800 "PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame" (Dec 17, 8:25pm) To: Jim Randall , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame Cc: "'dparish@randomhouse.com'" , "'stnunnally@compuserve.com'" , "'74726.2016@compuserve.com'" <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "'johnCCM@eei.org'" , "'Elbert_E_Silbaugh@MSN.com'" , "'71430.340@compuserve.com'" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, "'dgordon@texoma.net'" Jim, There is **no** need to defend your choice of mount. Especially to men who are insecure about their masculinity (ie. men who think that a man is defined by the size of the engine he straps himself to and not by what's between his ears). Most of these people lead shallow, empty little lives full of soap-opera-like drama and beating you up about your bike makes them feel better about themselves. Sad really. As a wise man once said, " The best revenge is living well". No truer words were ever spoken, IMHO. Forget these (with appologies to the ladies in advance) brain-dead-no-count-small-penis-addle-brained morons and relax and enjoy life and your bike. While I agree with your notion that what is needed is more tolerance, I think that what is needed more is good, old-fashioned **respect**. Respect for others has all but completely vanished from our "modern" society. This is partly because people are incentive driven and there are no incentives to treat others well anymore. There is no penalty for behaving badly. When I was growing up (I come from Iran) the penalty for behaving badly, in school for example, was that I got my ass beat to within an inch of my life and then (here comes the real scary part) I was taken home and handed over to my dad!! Talk about your disincentive for bad behavior! But, sadly, we raise our children, these days, to be social morons. Respect, responsibility for one's actions, and just plain "good will" are a thing of the past on a society-wide level. They still exist in small pockets in the form of individuals who haven't forgoten that if you treat other people well, that there is a high likelyhood that you will receive good treatment in return (AMAZING!! GO FIGURE!!). These are the people you want to surround yourself with. So, again, don't even waste the energy defending yourself/your bike, to people who don't treat you with the respect you deserve. They're not worth it. The only response these people should get is: "I ride this bike because it works for **me**!!" That's all they need to know. Nothing else. At any rate, should your travel ever find you and yours in the San Francisco Bay Area, Erin and I would be honored to have you as our guests. Ride safe and be well my friend, Ramin On Dec 17, 8:25pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame > Note to List members, the .ccs are the HSTA Executive Committee > I do however, resent the need to continually defend my choice > of motorcycles to people who seem to think the measure of a rider is > is equivilent to the potential performance of the mount. What we need > here is just a little more tolerance. > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:650-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id UAA07135 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:47:33 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Tankslapper Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:34:47 -0500 There was some discussion about 6 months ago on the list about a "point of instability" around 45 mph with the PC. The actual discussion was something about coasting down through 45 with no hands on the bars (duh!) but the point here is that under the right set of conditions the front end seems to oscillate on most PCs if the bars aren't damped. Perhaps, John combined a severe loss of traction with this natural instability??? Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER [SMTP:JTSMCRIDER@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 1997 12:05 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tankslapper Hi, John: Yes, we use the term here too, but I've never heard it applied to a PC. Wow! I'm not sure where to begin as far as running down the cause is concerned. Possiblities that come immediately to mind are loose wheel and/or steering- head bearings, improper tire pressure, uneven tire wear, too much weight on the rear wheel . . . . You said it was raining; maybe you got into a situation that produced hydroplaning. You wouldn't normally have a problem with that at 45mph, but . . . . Any standing water or puddles? How much tread is on the front tire? Was the tire pressure at about 33 psig? Anybody else got any ideas? JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Jim Randall'" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Tankslapper Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:42:15 -0800 Ah, the dreaded headshake, aka tankslapper. It's discussed on all the motorcycle lists I'm on and there are few (if any?) models of bike that are immune. All three of my bikes will do it, especially with worn tires. Personally I've learned to live with it and feel comfortable when it happens (only when I take my hands off around 40-45mph). The solutions presented thus far are the common ones. One other, should the condition bother you enough, is replacing the head bearings with needle type bearings. The reports on the other lists indicate a very high success rate. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:36:20 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Tankslapper Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 05:28:29 -0500 Jim, I had my steering head bearing adjusted so it does not do that wiggle waggle any more. I can ride from 60MPH down to a stop with "Look ,Ma ,no hands". Vince in Fort Myers, FL ---------- > There was some discussion about 6 months ago on the list about > a "point of instability" around 45 mph with the PC. The actual > discussion was something about coasting down through 45 with no > hands on the bars (duh!) but the point here is that under the right set > of conditions the front end seems to oscillate on most PCs if the bars > aren't damped. Perhaps, John combined a severe loss of traction with > this natural instability??? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:00:00 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Was I red-faced! To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List When have you found yourself in an embarrassing situation? I discovered o= ne on the way to TN-STAR last September. I stopped at an overlook on the Blu= e Ridge Parkway to rest a bit and take in some of the scenery. When I got back on the bike the center stand had sunken a bit into the asphalt and w= as leaning precariously to the right. I had parked the bike on a bit of an upward slant, and that plus the fact that the center stand was partially buried in the asphalt prevented me from pushing it forward to fold up the= center stand and allow me to ride off. To make matters worse, I was afrai= d to get back off the bike, for fear that it would fall over! So...there I was...immobilized! I sat there for about ten or fifteen minutes until two= BMW riders rode by. I waved frantically to them, and they pulled in and kindly pushed me forward enough to free the center stand! If they hadn't come along, I might still be sitting there! Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:52:00 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: RE: PC800: Heated Grips and Cover At 11:06 PM 12/15/97 -0600, Craig Carter wrote: >Okay great... The sun is pretty brutal here in southern Texas as well. I'd like >to get a decent cover that's easy to use and wont scratch up the bike. It sounds >like if I'm planning on getting a taller fairing, I need to look into the Dow model >that you are using. >Have you ever had any problem with it coming into contact with the exhaust? >Craig Never. After a thirty mile run to work at excessive, dangerous and foolhardy speeds, I can actually put my bare hand on the exhaust pipe outer housing. Don't try this at home, of course. The Dowco cover has a kind of aluminized coating on the bottom which I assume is there for that reason. (Future Flamers of America take note: I was just kidding about the foolhardy speeds) Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:52:02 -0500 To: "PC800 list" From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: Re: PC800: Best cover At 10:02 AM 12/17/97 -0500, Ted Gerarden wrote: >I noticed an email that asked, among other things, for comments on the best >cover for the PC. I currently have a Dow 100 full dress canvas cover which >I still find some water underneath after heavy rain; also, in very humid >conditions, some water seems to condense under the cover. Not bad overall, Is the Dow canvas the best overall product for winter and >severe weather protection? Should I expect even with the best cover to find >some moisture migrating under the cover and finding its way to the cycle? Any >comments are welcome--thanks. Although, I never really thought much about it, I have experienced not just water, but some sand, and dust on my PC after removing the cover. But I realize that it's not a "Ziploc". My main concern is with UV rays, flying objects, and prying eyes. I always have a terry cloth for wiping down the few drops of water that find their way on to the saddle. As for "severe weather" protection, I don't know. Strong winds removed my last cover, a Nelson Rigg, from my bike even though I had it bungeed. Luckily a fellow employee took the time to remedy the situation, since I was out of town. The Dowco has elastic sewn into the bottom hem that seems quite adequate. As for extremely cold weather, we all know how brittle flexible materials become. Removing a cover in subzero weather would almost certainly be hard on it. Bill Johnson 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Eyrich" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tankslapper Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:41:02 PST What adjustments? I just noticed the same problem the other day. I must be getting more confident in my riding. Why else would I ride without hands? Greg Eyrich > >Jim, >I had my steering head bearing adjusted so it does not do that wiggle >waggle any more. I can ride from 60MPH down to a stop with "Look ,Ma ,no >hands". >Vince in Fort Myers, FL > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:38:04 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "HondaPacificCoastOwners" Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:30:14 -0500 Dana, A dumb question but did you try driving off? Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- to get back off the bike, for fear that it would fall over! So...there I was...immobilized! I sat there for about ten or fifteen minutes until two BMW riders rode by. I waved frantically to them, and they pulled in and kindly pushed me forward enough to free the center stand! If they hadn't come along, I might still be sitting there! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:47:17 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Tankslapper Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:38:08 -0500 Greg. The steering head bearing tend to wear (or loosen?) over time. I had the mechanic tighten them up a bit. That was the good news. The bad news was he forgot to tighten the top bolts in the triple clamps. I didn't discover that until I had ridden 70 miles home on the Interstate at 75-80 MPH. I noticed a rubbing sound abou a block from my house. Looked under the front fairing and noticed that the two top bolts were about to fall out. They gave me a coupon for a free oil/filter change after I told them (in a polite way) about the oversight. I should have asked for new underdrawers. Vince ---------- > > What adjustments? I just noticed the same problem the other day. > > I must be getting more confident in my riding. Why else would I ride > without hands? > >I had my steering head bearing adjusted so it does not do that wiggle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:39:23 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Me---red faced? To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List I forgot to mention that I tried unsuccessfully to ride off, but I could not get any traction to the rear wheel, no matter how hard I tried. I mov= ed as far to the rear as possible trying to get traction to the rear wheel, but no luck! If I had survived the winter I could have been first in line= at next year's TN-STAR! Gotta find something good to make of a bad situation! Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:52:12 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "HondaPacificCoastOwners" Cc: "HSTA Postings to List" Subject: Re: PC800: Me---red faced? Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:44:41 -0500 I figured that you must have tried to drive off but I had to ask. Vince ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dana L. Sawyer To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List Subject: PC800: Me---red faced? Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 5:39 PM I forgot to mention that I tried unsuccessfully to ride off, but I could not get any traction to the rear wheel, no matter how hard I tried. I moved as far to the rear as possible trying to get traction to the rear wheel, but no luck! If I had survived the winter I could have been first in line at next year's TN-STAR! Gotta find something good to make of a bad situation! Dana -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. via SMTP by server3.wans.net, id smtpdAAAa002Y7; Fri Dec 19 16:59:09 1997 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Craig Carter To: "'PC800 Group (List)'" Subject: PC800: You got to love it... Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:00:15 -0600 Man, you have to love the PC800... After getting all of the taxes, insurance, plates, fees, etc...etc... and with the nice 60+ degree weather here in south Texas, I did some shopping yesterday afternoon. It's the first time I've been on the highway and found myself having to slow down because I didn't realize how fast I was going. My previous bike was louder and this bike accelerates so well that I even caught myself close to the red line once while accelerating out of the way of an aggressive shopper. As far as defending my choice-HA! I've had nothing but great comments on the great looks of my '95 Black PC800. When people ask why the PC800, I just tell them I wanted a bike that's great around town, has built-in carrying capacity, has a comfortable seat and riding position, and can still tour with the best of them. I also tell them it's PAID OFF! I have to leave town tomorrow for Christmas is Utah. My Christmas present will be staying in sunny south Texas and I'll be pushing the speed limits to get back for that year-end ride. Best wishes to you all for a Happy Holiday and I hope Santa brings you get the special accessory. Craig '95 Black / Silver (with new owner) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by PM01SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27033) 20 Dec 1997 00:31:45 +0000 (GMT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:22:43 -0600 From: "M.VerVelde" Subject: PC800: Ok to ride with mixed tires? To: PC800 List Reply-to: "M.VerVelde" BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_AtlGs9pb8XPzVbUUoe8ukg)" --Boundary_(ID_AtlGs9pb8XPzVbUUoe8ukg) My front tire needs replacing. My rear tire has maybe another month of = commuting on it before it should be replaced. They are dunlops. After = checking out everyones advice on "the cheapest place to get tires", = Checked catalog prices. Nobody local had Dunlops in stock. Found this = place (Fremont Cycle & Salvage- Thanks Mike Bravister for the tip) that = has tires at the same price as the catalogs (including mounting, = balancing). Only thing is, they only have the Metzlers in stock at this = time. I figured that I plan to try Metzlers sometime anyways, so I = thought maybe I'd get the front tire replaced with a Metzler, then next = month, replace the rear tire with a Metzler.... My question is- Will it = be a problem riding with a Metzler in front, Dunlop in the rear? I = know it doesn't matter on cars, but with bikes, dont want to make a dumb = assumption. Thanks Mike V 89 PC Stockton CA --Boundary_(ID_AtlGs9pb8XPzVbUUoe8ukg)
My front tire needs replacing. My = rear tire has=20 maybe another month of commuting on it before it should be replaced. = They are=20 dunlops.  After checking out everyones advice on "the cheapest = place=20 to get tires", Checked catalog prices. Nobody local had Dunlops in = stock.=20 Found this place (Fremont Cycle & Salvage- Thanks Mike Bravister for = the=20 tip) that has tires at the same price as the catalogs (including = mounting,=20 balancing).  Only thing is, they only have the Metzlers in stock at = this=20 time.  I figured that I plan to try Metzlers sometime anyways, so I = thought=20 maybe I'd get the front tire replaced with a Metzler, then next month, = replace=20 the rear tire with a Metzler....  My question is- Will it be a = problem=20 riding with a Metzler in front, Dunlop in the rear?   I know = it=20 doesn't matter on cars, but with bikes, dont want to make a dumb=20 assumption.
 
Thanks
 
Mike V
89 PC  Stockton=20 CA
--Boundary_(ID_AtlGs9pb8XPzVbUUoe8ukg)-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 1997 01:04:57 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Sister" , "pc800" , "Martha" , "MARI PIZZEY" , "Kybo" , "Kelly" , "Jose de Leon" , "Jack" , "Felicific Potentate of the Church of the Omega Centurions" <73520.2215@compuserve.com>, "Diane McFarlin" , "Brent" , "Bishop Wilson" , "Barbara Whatcott" , "Andrew Farthing" Subject: PC800: Christmas Web Addiction Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:04:34 -0800 > ~~~ Web Addiction Holiday Sing Along! ~~~ > (Sung to the tune of "Winter Wonderland") > > > Doorbell rings, I'm not list'nin', > From my mouth, drool is glist'nin', > I'm happy -- although > My boss let me go -- > Happily addicted to the Web. > > All night long, I sit clicking, > Unaware time is ticking, > There's beard on my cheek, > Same clothes for a week, > Happily addicted to the Web! > > Friends come by; they shake me, Saying, "Yo, man! > Don't you know tonight's the senior prom?" > With a listless shrug, I mutter; I say "No, man; > I just discovered laugh-a-lot-dot-com!" > > I don't phone, don't send faxes, > Don't go out, don't pay taxes, > Who cares if someday > They drag me away? > I'm happily addicted to the Web! > > Happ-ilyyyyy, ad-dict-eeeed to the Weeeeeb!!! (Yeah!) > -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:26:55 -0600 From: Michael Mangum To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! I've had the same thing happen to me in hot asphalt (I live in Houston, and this was in August.) I tried to rock the bike forward, but the stand had sunken far enough that the bike wouldn't tip past the center. I tried to ride off, but the tire was barely brushing the surface of the asphalt, and the tire simply spun. Fortunately, the bike had sunken evenly, so it wasn't about to fall over. I tried getting off the bike and pushing from the side, but was afraid it would fall to the opposite side when it came free. Finally, sitting in the saddle, I kept rocking back and forth, and it finally came forward off the stand. And, yes, it was embarrassing! Now, for those scorching summer days, I carry a small piece of wood in the trunk to rest the sidestand on. Mike in Houston, TX > Dana, A dumb question but did you try driving off? > Vince in Fort Myers,FL > > ---------- > to get back off the bike, for fear that it would fall over! So...there I > was...immobilized! I sat there for about ten or fifteen minutes until two > BMW riders rode by. I waved frantically to them, and they pulled in and > kindly pushed me forward enough to free the center stand! If they hadn't > come along, I might still be sitting there! > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Friend Wanting a PC! Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:58:54 -0600 Hello Everyone, A motorcycling acquaintance called a couple of nights ago asking if my PC was for sale. "Of course not." But I did offer to assist in the hunt for one. If you see, know, hear, etc. of one for sale, drop me a line. The individual is determined to obtain a ' 90 model. (Likes the Candy Red.) So, if you can help, it may make someone very happy for Christmas. Thanks again, I'll drop a line when the unit is procured. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id U[D28951; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:51:42 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:51:15 -0800 Subject: PC800: Is This A PC or a PC message? I have purchased Parsons Technology programs in the past, so I'm on their e-mail list. Recently I got a message from them with this in the subject line: "Keep your PC Running Like New- for just $19! Imagine my disappointment when I realized they were talking about a computer! Confoozed in Portland, Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id U[F28951; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:51:42 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:49:01 -0800 Subject: PC800: Take That, Gold Wingers! (Now that I'm back, you won't be able to shut me up! Snicker....) Had to share this with you PCers...more ammo in that long-standing topic: How competent a touring bike s the Pacific Coast? Along with others on this list, Nan and I belong to the Rose City Motorcycle Club, the oldest organized motorcycle club in Portland. I believe that we're up to about 165 members now. One of the annual awards that is given out is the Safety Award, which is given to the member who has ridden the most accident-free miles that year. In 1996 we were fortunate enough to have won the award with approximately 20K miles. When John Goff, the Road Captain, announced the winner he made a point to all of the Wingers in the audience that a Pacific Coast shamed them by taking the distance honors. This year we put on 27,986 miles and was once again fortunate enough to win the award---which frankly I wasn't sure would happen since we had added so many members to the club. When John announced the award this year he pointed out the fact that a Pacific Coast had once again taken the honor---but he didn't rub it in to the Gold Wing owners this time! What I found even more intriguing was not that we had won ---but that the guy who had come in 2nd for the year did over 25K on a Super Hawk! As nice as the Super Hawk is...I do believe that I'd rather do the miles on the Pacific Coast. It's certainly far closer to the "touring" category than the VTR1000F in my book. At least that's what my 51-year-old bones tell me.... Cheers, Tim Macy Portland, OR '94 PC - 64,292 Miles Of Smiles "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -- Former Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA04666 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:23:22 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:23:22 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! >At 04:30 PM 12/19/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Dana, A dumb question but did you try driving off? >>Vince in Fort Myers,FL Hmmm, I seem to recall a safety feature of the PC kills the engine if put in gear with the center stand down. Dana has done a lot of modifications to his PC, but I don't know if he has disconnected the centerstand safety switch. What I don't understand is why the bike was leaning to the right. If the centerstand on my PC were to sink, my PC will lean to the left. Of course, maybe Dana has reversed his centerstand and put it over on the other side! Dana is such a stand-up guy! Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:45:46 -0500 To: Dave Lott From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Dave Lott wrote: >Hmmm, I seem to recall a safety feature of the PC kills the engine if put in >gear with the center stand down. Dana has done a lot of modifications to >his PC, but I don't know if he has disconnected the centerstand safety switch. > >What I don't understand is why the bike was leaning to the right. If the >centerstand on my PC were to sink, my PC will lean to the left. Of course, >maybe Dana has reversed his centerstand and put it over on the other side! How ironic that this post has to do with being "red-faced". Dave...are you perhaps thinking of the 'side stand'? Ooops! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:30:59 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: "Michael S. Brown" CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Friend Wanting a PC! Michael S. Brown wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > A motorcycling acquaintance called a couple of nights ago asking if my PC > was for sale. "Of course not." But I did offer to assist in the hunt for > one. If you see, know, hear, etc. of one for sale, drop me a line. The > individual is determined to obtain a ' 90 model. (Likes the Candy Red.) > So, if you can help, it may make someone very happy for Christmas. > > Thanks again, > > I'll drop a line when the unit is procured. > > Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" Hi Michael! Your friend can't have my PC either but.... one of our group wants to sell his PC and it's a nice '90. You can check out a picture of it at http://john.csun.edu/pc/RUSTY.JPG. It's a really nice bike and if I could afford it, I'd buy it just to have two superb '90's. You can e-mail Rusty at Rusty Jackson Take care from Southern California. -- ************** * Phil Lewis * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red"* ************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id U[E28951; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:51:42 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:29:41 -0800 Subject: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Took a trip to Computer Hell a month ago...almost didn't find my way out. Scary place. My 486, due to business (and personal) demands, had become overstuffed and bloated, with resultant predictable results. I had considered pancaking another hard drive in, but instead was the lucky recipient of a new Compaq Presario (Pentium, of course...) that no one was using at work. So I've spent the last four weeks in Computer Hell. But I've finally got things almost back to normal and can access my e-mail again! Many thanks to some very concerned friends out there who were worried about Nan's and my welfare, and double thanks to Wanda Bailey, who allayed their fears. I saw the Baileys at the annual Toys for Tots run on Dec 6th (along with Bob Anundson, Julie Pipkin, and others), and Wanda promised that she would relay my non-computerized status to the list. What a great group of people, eh? One more reason why I love this list. OBTW, Todd Z, we had a thousand bikes (mostly Harleys) at this year's Toys run here in Portland.. You had 20,000 in Chicago? Wow! That must have been quite a sight. Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to all, Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 01:38:30 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ok to ride with mixed tires? Hi, Mike: You won't have any problems with a Metzeler up front and a Dunlop on the rear. I've run all four combinations with no problems at all. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:15:22 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Michael Mangum" , "HondaPacificCoastOwners" Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 07:09:38 -0500 ---------- > From: Michael Mangum > To: HondaPacificCoastOwners > Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! > Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 8:26 PM > > Now, for those > scorching summer days, I carry a small piece of wood in the trunk to rest the > sidestand on. > > Mike in Houston, TX > I carry a round steel plate use to cover an electric box. Its thinner so it dosen't change the angle of the bike while on the side stand and you can attach a cord to one of the holes in it an loop it around your left grip. This allows to retrive it while sitting on the bike. What to do with a HOT, TAR COVERED steel disk after retrival hasen't been worked out yet :-). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:15:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , "Dave Lott" Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 07:14:45 -0500 The PC will run in gear with the center stand down, but not the side stand. ---------- > From: Dave Lott > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! > Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 9:23 PM > > > >At 04:30 PM 12/19/97 -0500, you wrote: > >>Dana, A dumb question but did you try driving off? > >>Vince in Fort Myers,FL > > Hmmm, I seem to recall a safety feature of the PC kills the engine if put in > gear with the center stand down. Dana has done a lot of modifications to > his PC, but I don't know if he has disconnected the centerstand safety switch. > > What I don't understand is why the bike was leaning to the right. If the > centerstand on my PC were to sink, my PC will lean to the left. Of course, > maybe Dana has reversed his centerstand and put it over on the other side! > > Dana is such a stand-up guy! > > Ride as if your life depended on it! > \ > Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ > \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) > Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ > >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ > 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. > / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ > ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) > (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / > `----' `---' > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 07:59:37 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 08:06:54 -0800 This isn't about PC's, the ones we ride, but it's some helpfull tips for the other PC's we type on. If you have other questions, email me directly so we don't flood the list. As a system administrator, one of my first lessons was how important backups were. Other system admins out there can testify also. At home, I hadn't realized how dependent I was on my computer until I had lost a hard drive. Then I realized too late that the practice of backing up stuff at work applies at home too. Now that more and more people are relying on their PC's for communication, it's become more important than ever to have a good backup. In your case, Tim, a backup may not have saved you since you were changing hardware, but having a good backup on hand means you can always go back to the original configuration and try upgrading another day. That brings me to the last point about backups. Jot down all your configurations for your PC's. If you don't know what they are, have a friend do it for you and SAVE THAT PIECE OF PAPER. When, not if, you upgrade, update that piece of paper also. It may save you someday. It saved me a few times when I've torn my machine apart and couldn't remember which goes where and what jumpers were set to. Tape drives are cheap enough these days so there isn't many reasons left to not invest in one. Not having your PC availble these days is worse than being blind. At least being blind you can still hear, touch, smell and taste. In the virtual realm, you might as well be dead. Hope that's useful. It's my gift to you all. Ride safe and safe computing! Merry Christmas! Cheers, Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com[SMTP:timmacy@juno.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 1997 3:29 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Took a trip to Computer Hell a month ago...almost didn't find my way out. Scary place. My 486, due to business (and personal) demands, had become overstuffed and bloated, with resultant predictable results. I had considered pancaking another hard drive in, but instead was the lucky recipient of a new Compaq Presario (Pentium, of course...) that no one was using at work. So I've spent the last four weeks in Computer Hell. But I've finally got things almost back to normal and can access my e-mail again! Many thanks to some very concerned friends out there who were worried about Nan's and my welfare, and double thanks to Wanda Bailey, who allayed their fears. I saw the Baileys at the annual Toys for Tots run on Dec 6th (along with Bob Anundson, Julie Pipkin, and others), and Wanda promised that she would relay my non-computerized status to the list. What a great group of people, eh? One more reason why I love this list. OBTW, Todd Z, we had a thousand bikes (mostly Harleys) at this year's Toys run here in Portland.. You had 20,000 in Chicago? Wow! That must have been quite a sight. Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to all, Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 08:23:47 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! or..just get rid of the PC and get a MAC :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 08:39:32 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: Johan Lai CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Johan Lai wrote: > > This isn't about PC's, the ones we ride, but it's some helpfull tips for the > other PC's we type on. If you have other questions, email me directly > so we don't flood the list. I didn't want to flood the list, but I did want to say thanks, that's really good advice. I'm planning on getting a CD-WRITER. They are getting fairly cheap and can easily back up a lot with 680mb capacity. On to real PC questions, I'm going to change insurance companies, so please e-mail me directly, if you would, on your recommendations and rates. I'm in Southern California, so that might make a difference on your comments. Thanks in advance. Phil -- ************** * Phil Lewis * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red"* ************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:54:32 -0500 From: Jason To: Mike Whited CC: Michael Mangum , HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! I do this, also. I keep it in one of the pockets of my Kilamanjaro jacket. It's funny when I search through my pockets and pull it out. I told one person it was in case someone shot at me. He asked, completely serious, where I go riding. So far, I've been able to plant and retrieve it by bending down, though I lean into a precarious stance to do so. (I'm 6'3) > I carry a round steel plate use to cover an electric box. Its thinner so it > dosen't change the angle of the bike while on the side stand and you can > attach a cord to one of the holes in it an loop it around your left grip. > This allows to retrive it while sitting on the bike. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:49:48 EST To: ramin@tibco.com, jrandall@tricon.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: dparish@randomhouse.com, stnunnally@compuserve.com, 74726.2016@compuserve.com, johnCCM@eei.org, Elbert_E_Silbaugh@MSN.com, 71430.340@compuserve.com, dgordon@texoma.net Subject: Re: PC800: Why I ride a PC - HSTA flame In a message dated 97-12-18 21:22:19 EST, ramin@tibco.com writes: << This is partly because people are incentive driven and there are no incentives to treat others well anymore. There is no penalty for behaving badly. >> As a professional, I don't agree. There is a very great penalty for treating people badly if you are a professional -- you won't get any more business. That's quite a disincentive. Yes, there are clients who treat us badly, but that doesn't last long. They soon get a bad reputation too and only the most desperate will deal with them -- usually to both parties' detriment. Courtesy, honesty and integrity are still attributes that are prized by those who also have them... Such people can command a premium for their services...but not with those who don't have them... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:04:56 EST To: Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! In a message dated 97-12-19 08:51:26 EST, Dana_Sawyer@compuserve.com writes: << I sat there for about ten or fifteen minutes until two BMW riders rode by. I waved frantically to them, and they pulled in and kindly pushed me forward enough to free the center stand! If they hadn't come along, I might still be sitting there! >> Dana, That's a good story and one from which we can all learn... I had a similar (more embarrasing) experience lately riding my CBR900RR (not the PC). I was out on a relatively cold early Winter's day to exercise the bike a bit (rode the PC earlier for the same purpose). I stopped for gas at an Exxon station and filled the tank. While refueling, someone pulled in in front of me (going the other way) and pulled right up to my front wheel leaving me less than a foot from their front bumper. I finished fueling and realized I would have to back out of the space -- no big deal right? Well, I did so without looking down. Unbeknownst to me, someone before me had spilled fuel in this space. Moreover, I was wearing racing boots with hard plastic soles which don't offer the best of traction. As I pushed back, my left foot slipped out from under me and I started to lean to the right. I immediately pulled my foot back and tried to kick the bike up. No joy, the foot just slipped again. I was able to get my foot back in place again to help brake the fall, but there was no stopping it. Down I went.. Now I was lying on the ground under the bike with the left peg pushed up under my leathers holding me to the bike on the top as well. With some effort (and muttered profanity) I managed to get myself extricated from the bike and up on my feet. Luckily, Fireblades are pretty easy to raise (no one offered to help) and I got it upright right away. Amazingly, there was essentially no damage to the bike (a scratch or two on the engine case and the LH mirror housing... Mucho embarrassing though ! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:05:02 EST To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Was I red-faced! In a message dated 97-12-19 19:20:16 EST, vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net writes: << Dana, A dumb question but did you try driving off? Vince in Fort Myers,FL >> With the rear wheel in the air? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SmY21403; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:54:53 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:41:12 -0800 Subject: PC800: It's the "spirit" of the season... >From The Edge, a highly quotable grab-bag of nonsense in The Oregonian: "Once again, we come to the Holiday Season, a deeply religious time that each of us observes, in his own way, by going to the mall of his choice. In the old days, it was not called the Holiday Season; the Christians called it "Christmas" and went to church; the Jews called it "Hanukkah" and went to synagogue; the atheists went to parties and drank. People passing each other on the street would say "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy Hannukah!" or...to the atheists..."Look out for the wall!". - Dave Barry "The easiest way to make a fruitcake is to buy a darkish cake, then pound some old, hard fruit into it with a mallet. Be sure to wear safety glasses." - Dave Barry "We should declare war on North Vietnam...we could pave the whole country and put parking strips on it, and still be home by Christmas." - Ronald Reagan And...of course...we can't leave this vein of thought without a quote from my favorite quotable person... "May our nation continue to be the beakon of hope to the world." - Dan & Marilyn Quayle's 1989 Christmas card Happy Holidays! Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:32:21 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: PC List Subject: PC800: Wanda's PC CB setup Photos Hi, Wanda gave me some photos of her CB setup and I scanned them in and posted them on my motorcycle site at http://www.teleport.com/~boba/motorcycle/ Once in you will notice some icons with labels on the left hand side. Hit the one that says "picture" and Wanda's link is the first in a list of links. She is out of the office for the holidays so you'll have to wait until she back to get any questions answered. I have a CB setup using a Maxon handheld but nothing as extensive or nice as Wanda's. Regards, Bob -- Bob Anundson Ko Ko San/'94 Honda PC Tualatin, OR 97062 (503) 692 2841 f7906 boba@teleport.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:32:17 EST To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Triumph ( My Opinion) The Triumph Trophy 900 is one hell of a good machine. It is a sightly heavier bike than the PC, but feels more nimble and it is lot faster. The driving position is not a radical as most other sport touring machines, the driver's seating is in many ways similar to the Pacific Coast. The stock saddle is an improvement over the original equipment on the PC, but not nearly as good as a Corbin. The passenger accommodations, even with a GiVi Top Case or passenger's back rest, are not as hospitable as the Honda. The Trophy exhibits more handlebar vibration than the Pacific Coast. There is also more wind turbulence for both the driver and passenger on the Triumph compared to the PC. I hear the Trophy can be purchased with an optional longer wind screen. Riding behind the stock screen at over 70 mph requires a full face helmet with the mask down. I think the Triumph will be more expensive to maintain, and may require a great deal of periodic tinkering, particularly because of its chain drive. I personally question if the Trophy is as sophisticated as its $11,000+ price would indicate. I think if I were moving from the PC into something in the mode of the Triumph, I would take a serious look at a Kawa Connie. The Concours retails for about $7,800,and can be purchased for around $7,000. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:54:20 EST To: dkgross@halcyon.com, owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! In a message dated 12/20/97 11:17:32 AM, dkgross@halcyon.com wrote: <> But, even with a Mac, the pain of 'losing it all'--however infrequent that may ever be--can be awesome. I've used Macs since 1987, am on my 4th one at home--where we have 3 Macs. For backup purposes, the most convenient system I've tried is a ZIP drive with its 100MB disks. Very fast and convenient for backup purposes. Also recently got a Mac clone on my desk at work and had everything from my old Mac system backed up on 2 ZIP disks. Made configuring the new HD very quick and easy. Can't recommend it enough! No matter what system you use, establish early-on the habit of backing up--daily! Most folks I teach computer operations to usually don't heed this and learn a painful lesson the hard way. New learning and acuity of attention to better habit formation seem to take an exponential leap during the pain of having 'lost it all'!! --gary a. wade --galveston island, texas [ where the temps. were still in the low 70's most of this past week and made riding to/from work delightful--especially for December days. The sunrise over the Gulf of Mexico viewed from Seawall Blvd. astride my '94 PC800(25K+) going to work Fri. AM was awesome. Great way to greet the day. May be able to continue doing so most of Dec. Glad I don't have to hassle with winterizing/garaging the 'black beauty' at all here on the island. :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:18:32 -0500 To: dkgross@halcyon.com From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >or..just get rid of the PC and get a MAC > >:>) > Yeah ! Plug and Play since 1984 But seriously...regarding the post about backups..... it really is an important issue. I use compression software and back my Mac up on about a dozen Zip cartridges. It's not as fast as tape, but very convenient. And another important issue regarding backups. Don't keep them in the same house. Backups should always be kept off-site. fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:23:20 -0800 From: Phil Lewis To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Was I red-faced! As long as we are all bearing our souls on being embarrassed, I thought I'd relate this one, that you may not believe. I had to be at Orange County Airport one morning at about 6:00am. I was driving up from San Diego, so I left home at about 4:30am. I was riding a Honda Hawk 400, which is O.K. for local riding, but has a lot of vibration over long freeway driving. It was also fairly cold this early in the morning. Anyway, what happened was that after riding on this vibrating machine for over an hour in the cold wee small hours of the morning, and feeling tired, I pulled into a gas station to fill up for my return trip later that afternoon. I pulled up to a pump, stopped, and fell over to the right, like a scene from that old TV comedy, Rowan and Martin's Laughin. Do you remember that tri-cycle that would just stop and tip over? Well, that was me! Some people came over to ask if I was alright, and all I could say was, "Yeah, I guess I must just be a little tired!" So, I just picked myself up, picked the bike up, filled it with gas and rode away like nothing happened. All this happened about 15 years ago, but I remember it like yesterday! Wierd, Huh! -- ************** * Phil Lewis * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red"* ************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "PC800 mail list" Subject: PC800: fuel cell Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:42:57 -0600 Has anyone measured the temperature of the bottom right half of the trunk during extended rides? I'm pondering the possibility of having a fuel cell made that would ride in the bottom of the trunk... Having the aux. fuel cell mounted over the rear seat has been an occasional PITA. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:43:30 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! One note of advise about backing up your drive is make sure you can restore from the backup. I had a System Admin. that made backups of our server. One day won't you know something was deleted and needed to be replaced. "I don't understand I know the backup worked!" Well, did you try and restore from any of your backups. A backup isn't worth spit if you can't retrieve the data from it. Later, Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:42:04 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:42:57 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Question's about Eclipse Hello all. Anyone out there using an Eclipse electric vest or chaps? I was given a set of USED Eclipse riding gear. The chaps work, but I was told the vest has a short somewhere in it. What chance would there be for Eclipse to repair the vest? Also, how would I go about cleaning them. They've been in storage for a few year's. **They got stank** Thank's for any help. James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Bob Ray'" , PC800 mail list Subject: RE: PC800: fuel cell Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:50:31 -0800 I’ve left water bottles at the bottom of the trunk as well as aluminum bottles with camp fuel. When the bike is running all day in nice weather and the trunk is stuffed, I never found the bottles to get more than warm to the touch. Never too hot to handle. If you want to try it out, just fill some plastic bottles with water, toss ‘em in the trunk and take off. I’ll bring a thermometer and buy you a cup of coffee when you get to Seattle. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT “TruST” ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:01:49 -0500 To: "PC800 mail list" From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: PC800: WWW.MCNews.com Just like to mention that Motorcycle Consumer News has a website up. I didn't get a chance to peruse it yet. WWW.MCNews.com Bill Johnson 89PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:07:03 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: WWW.MCNews.com Bill, Thanks for the tip. One nice feature of the web-site is that they have included used bike values. This is an often mentioned subject so this resource will be very helpful. At 04:01 PM 12/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >Just like to mention that Motorcycle Consumer News has a website up. >I didn't get a chance to peruse it yet. > WWW.MCNews.com > >Bill Johnson >89PC800 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:57:09 -0800 Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:57:07 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: WWW.MCNews.com Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:57:24 -0500 The MCNews site is ok. Black and white, just like the mag. Some good stuff there which you've read if you're a subscriber plus some links to other neat motorcycle places. My problem with MCN happened when they published staff pix and brief bios. I was enchanted with the picture of Copy Editor Marcy Toschi and now my wife thumps me on the soft spot on the top of my head whenever she sees me accessing MCNews. John '90 PC "Ruby" LCDR, USN (Ret) Somewhere in, sigh, Indiana (no salt water!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Greg Eyrich" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:37:45 PST Now that I am about through with X-Mas shopping my thoughts have turned to what I want to BUY MYSELF!!! A Rifle and a Givi Top Case are at the top of the list. I think I've seen enough on the Rifle to make an informed choice but what about the Givi. Which top case do you prefer between the 46 and 50 ltr? What about options like aux. stop light and backrest? How well do the colors match ('94 so it shouldn't be to tough)? Do you prefer a solid color or half & half? Anyone seen a '94 with a black(top)/gray(bottom) combo? What the heck color is "Anthracite"? Thanks in advance. Greg Eyrich Duck Hunter, Motorcycle Rider, Family Man ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'Greg Eyrich'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:06:27 -0500 I have a black 50 liter. Anthracite is probably close to the '94 seat color but I won't swear to it. I have no backrest on it. We decided a backrest would push my passenger uncomfortably forward. She only rests against the box, doesn't sit back hard. Remember if you get the internal optional brake light you will have to disconnect it every time you remove the box and there will be a hole in the bag for the wiring. I bought an $11 led light from JCWhitney and stuck it under the rack plate. I preferred the 50l over the 46l which I tried. The 50 is much easier to pack because it's so boxy. The 46l has an irregular shape to accommodate the optional light and is very hard to pack. The GiVi products are good quality. Two-tone bags may not be readily available, as in wait for Italy to make one. Roger Prince > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Eyrich [SMTP:greg_eyrich@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 1997 11:38 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr > > Now that I am about through with X-Mas shopping my thoughts have > turned > to what I want to BUY MYSELF!!! A Rifle and a Givi Top Case are at > the > top of the list. I think I've seen enough on the Rifle to make an > informed choice but what about the Givi. > > Which top case do you prefer between the 46 and 50 ltr? What about > options like aux. stop light and backrest? How well do the colors > match > ('94 so it shouldn't be to tough)? Do you prefer a solid color or > half > & half? Anyone seen a '94 with a black(top)/gray(bottom) combo? What > > the heck color is "Anthracite"? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Greg Eyrich > Duck Hunter, Motorcycle Rider, Family Man > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:51:22 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: "Prince, Roger" , "'Greg Eyrich'" , Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:42:32 -0500 I'm interested in the GIVI also but I've never seen one. I've been to their site and a little dissapointed in the available information. Anyone know where I can go in the central Ohio area for more information? Any pictures anywhere??? Thanks, Mike ---------- > From: Prince, Roger > To: 'Greg Eyrich' ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: RE: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 1997 12:06 AM > > I have a black 50 liter. Anthracite is probably close to the '94 seat > color but I won't swear to it. I have no backrest on it. We decided a > backrest would push my passenger uncomfortably forward. She only rests > against the box, doesn't sit back hard. Remember if you get the > internal optional brake light you will have to disconnect it every time > you remove the box and there will be a hole in the bag for the wiring. > I bought an $11 led light from JCWhitney and stuck it under the rack > plate. I preferred the 50l over the 46l which I tried. The 50 is much > easier to pack because it's so boxy. The 46l has an irregular shape to > accommodate the optional light and is very hard to pack. The GiVi > products are good quality. Two-tone bags may not be readily available, > as in wait for Italy to make one. > > Roger Prince > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Eyrich [SMTP:greg_eyrich@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 1997 11:38 PM > > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > > Subject: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr > > > > Now that I am about through with X-Mas shopping my thoughts have > > turned > > to what I want to BUY MYSELF!!! A Rifle and a Givi Top Case are at > > the > > top of the list. I think I've seen enough on the Rifle to make an > > informed choice but what about the Givi. > > > > Which top case do you prefer between the 46 and 50 ltr? What about > > options like aux. stop light and backrest? How well do the colors > > match > > ('94 so it shouldn't be to tough)? Do you prefer a solid color or > > half > > & half? Anyone seen a '94 with a black(top)/gray(bottom) combo? What > > > > the heck color is "Anthracite"? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Greg Eyrich > > Duck Hunter, Motorcycle Rider, Family Man > > > > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:39:42 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr Mike Whited and Greg Eyrich are both wondering about the GIVI on a Pacific Coast. I have an older GIVI on my 95 PC. The model is the E45, with the optional backrest. It can easily hold a couple of full face helmets. You can see a few pictures of it at: http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/pc800/matilda.html If you want to see the other GIVI boxes available, you can check out their web site. It's located at http://www.givi.it/sub_index/g_cat.html . When I went to the Honda Homecoming in July 97 with a friend, he purchased the GIVI E460 top case with the optional trunk mounted brake light, at Competition Accessories in Springfield, OH. They didn't have the rack in stock for his bike, so I drove home with it on my bike. ( I didn't have my GIVI with me on the trip). I think the E460 still big enough to hold a couple of full-face helmets. (Hal...any comments on your GIVI ?) I really like the look of the E460 on the Pacific Coast. I find that it looks almost stock, and the regular black model is a pretty close match. IMHO I wouldn't pay the difference for a color match, at least not with a 94/95 PC800. Roger Prince made a very valid comment concerning the optional truk mounted brake light. The GIVI is so simple to install/remove that the additional wire would, in my opinion, be an annoyance. I would probably forget it once, and then rip the wire right off as a result. Would I recommend GIVI? You bet ! It is a very well built product, easy and simple to install/remove, has the simplest mounting and locking mechanism on the market, is completely watertight, and holds a ton of stuff. Also, when you remove the GIVI top case, you are left with a very solid rack that can be used to mount/strap on/bungee whatever you want, without having to worry about the paint on your trunk. One caveat.....you can't have a GIVI and also have the Honda backrest, but my wife feels much safer with the Givi and its backrest than she did with the Hondaline backrest. The Hondaline backrest is pretty low. Let us know what you decide, and Merry Christmas to all! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:24:20 EST To: greg_eyrich@HOTMAIL.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr I also have a 1994 PC, with 37K miles on the odometer. It is equipped with a Givi 46 ltr. Top Case and Back Rest. I originally purchased the GiVi to satisfy by wife's demand for additional storage. It was my intention to remove the case when not traveling two up. The case is very convenient, it fits the bike so well and adds to the overall appearance of the PC it has become a permanent fixture. I carry my cold weather and rain gear in the GiVi when not traveling. It is also an excellent place to lug light packages, or a briefcase. The color of the GiVi matches the PC perfectly. I get many compliments on the bike. Most people think the GiVi is original equipment. If I were to do it over again, I would get the case with the tail lights. My wife thinks the GiVi back rest is more comfortable than the Hondaline it replaced. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:26:47 -0800 "Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell!" (Dec 20, 8:23am) To: dkgross@halcyon.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Don't bother! There won't be any support for it in 6 months to a year is Steve Jobs has anything to say about it! It's because of him and his antics that Stanford University (the world's 4th largest MAC cluster) will soon be switching their entire operations to PCs. Oh well! That's free enterprise, no? ;-) Ramin On Dec 20, 8:23am, Dave Gross wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! > or..just get rid of the PC and get a MAC > > :>) > > > > -- > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 650-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 650-846-5005 | |Release Group | Main #:650-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | |########################| Cell Phone:650-307-6622 | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:44:19 -0600 (CST) To: "Bob Ray" From: Keith Sproul Subject: Re: PC800: fuel cell Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Has anyone measured the temperature of the bottom >right half of the trunk during extended rides? > >I'm pondering the possibility of having a fuel cell >made that would ride in the bottom of the trunk... >Having the aux. fuel cell mounted over the rear >seat has been an occasional PITA. > >Bob Ray >-- I would recommend putting the fuel cell BEHIND the rear seat.. Get the GIVI Monokey mount system, put the fuel cell in place of their hard-luggage, and put a soft back-rest on the front of it so that your passenger can have a place to lean. Keith Sproul Keith Sproul ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu WU2Z Student Housing Network Coordinator 732 445-3695 W Rutgers University Computing Services 732 821-4828 H 1996 GoldWing SE 1994 Pacific Coast AMA GWRRA-123380 WOTI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:01:36 EST To: ramin@tibco.com, dkgross@halcyon.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800: Help! I'm Stuck In Computer Hell! Every magazine I picked up contained a multi page advertisement for Apple's new computer the G3. The only problem is you can't by a G3. I went to a dozer different computer stores in Kansas City, and no store will have a G3 in stock before February. You can order a G3 directly from Apple, but I want to see the machine. A waste of a multi million dollars ad campaign. Typical Apple. They build great computers, but have no idea how to run a company. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "Keith Sproul" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: fuel cell Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:49:52 -0600 Keith Sproul writes: > I would recommend putting the fuel cell BEHIND the rear seat.. Get > the GIVI Monokey mount system, put the fuel cell in place of their > hard-luggage, and put a soft back-rest on the front of it so that your > passenger can have a place to lean. > > Keith Sproul Above, behind, same difference. It's having the weighty fuel cell on the hinged portion of the trunk that's the problem. Before the iron butt, I told myself that I'd just plan my stops so that I didn't need to get into the trunk unless the fuel cell was empty. So much for that innocent thought! I had to access the trunk often (swapping clothing, accessing tools, etc.) and everytime I did with the cell full, the trunk lid would sway on the hinges disconcertingly and/or I'd have to hold it up whilst rummaging through the trunk. It's not a problem for shorter day trips. OTOH, about the only time I hook up the fuel cell is when I'm riding competitively, so the backrest issue has never arisen. BTW, I mounted it directly over the rear seat to minimize the change it would have on handling. Not really a stock corner blitzer, I didn't want to further hamper the bike by hanging 50 pounds out on a lever above and behind the axle. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:05:04 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: fuel cell Bob, A while back a former list member, Ray Nielsen, created a heat shield that diverted the engine heat away from the rear tire. This caused the rear tire to run a lot cooler and not expand as much (his PC was an '89). I suspect that this shield might also help lower the temperature of the lower trunk area(s). How large do you think you could make this auxiliary tank? Would you use just one side or try to balance it and do it on both? Would you make it removable? Please keep us posted. Juan If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: fuel cell Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:57:47 -0600 Juan Goula writes: > Bob, > > A while back a former list member, Ray Nielsen, created a heat shield that > diverted the engine heat away from the rear tire. This caused the rear > tire to run a lot cooler and not expand as much (his PC was an '89). I > suspect that this shield might also help lower the temperature of the > lower trunk area(s). Bryce "Mr. Software" Ulrich suggested I put some water-filled bottles in the trunk during my next ride. This was sooooo plain and glaring and obvious an idea that I felt shamed to have overlooked it. I plan on doing this test this weekend (roundtrip to Austin in 48 hours, about 2100 miles). I'll check the water bottle temperature on each end of the trip to see just how warm they get. May not be as good a test as middle-of-summer-in-desert but the water bottles probably wouldn't stay full then anyway (grin). > How large do you think you could make this auxiliary tank? Would you use > just one side or try to balance it and do it on both? Iron Butt rules limit a competitor to 11 gallons, so I guess I'd shoot for somewhere just over 6 gallons (they count gas in the hoses and carb bowls towards your fuel capacity). As a gallon of unleaded weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 7lbs, I'd probably try to distribute the 6 gallons/42 lbs over both sides of the trunk. From preliminary investigations, I'd need to have fuel taps on both sides and tee them all in at the fuel filter (where I connected my current cell). Still haven't checked to see if I'll need another fuel pump (i.e. is the bottom of the trunk lower than the bottom of the main fuel tank) but that will be pretty easy to tell. Just rip off the plastic (again, sigh), level it out, and eyeball it. > Would you make it removable? I doubt it. I've been thinking about where to put the filler neck if I pursue this madness. If I leave it inside the trunk, I've got to open the trunk every gas stop which might be as maddening as my current setup. Ironic, no? One way I hate that I can't open my trunk, the other I hate that I have to open the trunk. If I put the filler neck through the plastic, then I may have other problems. I can't put it through the top because the top levers up. That leaves the bottom half of the tub. I haven't measured to see if there is room for three gallons in the bottom of the trunk and still have room for filler neck to be mounted at the top of the bottom. Perhaps I'll triple-hefty- bag three gallons of water when I get back and see how much space is left... >Please keep us posted. I'll try. Just don't let me prattle on to the point where I will have thoroughly bored and/or annoyed you guys. Just tell me to bugger off or something! Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:00:38 -0500 From: Hal MacDonald To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Mike Whited and Greg Eyrich are both wondering about the GIVI on a Pacific > Coast. I have an older GIVI on my 95 PC. The model is the E45, with the > optional backrest. It can easily hold a couple of full face helmets. You > can see a few pictures of it at: http://www.magma.ca/~fsl/pc800/matilda.html > > If you want to see the other GIVI boxes available, you can check out their > web site. It's located at http://www.givi.it/sub_index/g_cat.html . > > When I went to the Honda Homecoming in July 97 with a friend, he purchased > the GIVI E460 top case with the optional trunk mounted brake light, at > Competition Accessories in Springfield, OH. They didn't have the rack in > stock for his bike, so I drove home with it on my bike. ( I didn't have my > GIVI with me on the trip). I think the E460 still big enough to hold a > couple of full-face helmets. (Hal...any comments on your GIVI ?) > I have done about 5000KM now and no complaints. During a late October trip to NC and Tenn. My riding partner & I had 2600 Km of moderate to very heavy rain, at speeds up to 200 KM/hr (not frequent nor sustained) and not a single drop inside the GIVI. Their workmanship is above reproach. Just one caution though.. DO NOT load it heavy. It will take the weight, but it will also affect the handling. I found that up to the maximum leagal speeds it was fine but go 10 to 20 KM/hr over and it is noticeable. This instability worsens with each lb. of weight for both riders. Hope you are all well and wish you all safe rides and the VERY best greetings of the season. Hal MacDonald Ajax, Ont., Canada > I really like the look of the E460 on the Pacific Coast. I find that it > looks almost stock, and the regular black model is a pretty close match. > IMHO I wouldn't pay the difference for a color match, at least not with a > 94/95 PC800. Roger Prince made a very valid comment concerning the > optional truk mounted brake light. The GIVI is so simple to install/remove > that the additional wire would, in my opinion, be an annoyance. I would > probably forget it once, and then rip the wire right off as a result. > > Would I recommend GIVI? You bet ! It is a very well built product, easy > and simple to install/remove, has the simplest mounting and locking > mechanism on the market, is completely watertight, and holds a ton of > stuff. Also, when you remove the GIVI top case, you are left with a very > solid rack that can be used to mount/strap on/bungee whatever you want, > without having to worry about the paint on your trunk. > > One caveat.....you can't have a GIVI and also have the Honda backrest, but > my wife feels much safer with the Givi and its backrest than she did with > the Hondaline backrest. The Hondaline backrest is pretty low. > > Let us know what you decide, and Merry Christmas to all! > > fsl :-) > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:58:19 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Chris Kellogg Subject: PC800: Happy Holidays Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Roger and Carol Prince -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:11:08 -0800 From: Bob Anundson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: fuel cell Bob Ray wrote: > > Juan Goula writes: > > > Bob, > > > > A while back a former list member, Ray Nielsen, created a heat shield > that > > diverted the engine heat away from the rear tire. This caused the rear > > tire to run a lot cooler and not expand as much (his PC was an '89). I > > suspect that this shield might also help lower the temperature of the > > lower trunk area(s). > > Bryce "Mr. Software" Ulrich suggested I put some water-filled bottles in > the > trunk during my next ride. This was sooooo plain and glaring and obvious > an idea that I felt shamed to have overlooked it. I plan on doing this > test > this weekend (roundtrip to Austin in 48 hours, about 2100 miles). I'll > check > the water bottle temperature on each end of the trip to see just how warm > they get. May not be as good a test as middle-of-summer-in-desert but > the water bottles probably wouldn't stay full then anyway (grin). > I suspect that heat won't be a problem. I recently added some road pegs to my bike which required cutting the plastic and the dremel tool bit immedetely melted the plastic. If the temperature was too hot the bags would have melted a long time ago. Regards, Bob Bob Anundson President Abiqua Production Tualatin, OR 97062 (503) 692 2841 f7906 boba@teleport.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: fuel cell From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 24 Dec 1997 00:03:22 -0600 Lines: 11 >>>>> "BR" == Bob Ray writes: BR> I've been thinking about where to put the filler neck if I BR> pursue this madness. I recall that the extra tank for the ST1100 had hoses from the top and bottom of the stock tank so that you just filled the stock tank and the fuel ran into the extra tank. This of course requires that the new tank be below the top of the old tank and that there be enough ventilation. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:39:23 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: hi philips hey..my address book in Netscape got corrupted and I lost a bunch of email addresses. Please resend!! Thanks for the groovy clock/voltmeter thingy!! I found a great place to put it on my PC!! Sorry I missed your phone call too... Rae and I wish you only the best and happiest of the holiday season! and that goes for the rest of the list too....BTW... :>) Lots of new photos below also. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , "Jason L Tibbitts III" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: fuel cell Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 07:01:34 -0600 > > BR> I've been thinking about where to put the filler neck if I > BR> pursue this madness. > > I recall that the extra tank for the ST1100 had hoses from the top and > bottom of the stock tank so that you just filled the stock tank and the > fuel ran into the extra tank. This of course requires that the new tank be > below the top of the old tank and that there be enough ventilation. > The "Ron Major" tank. That's another thought. I've ridden (and filled) an ST1100 with that tank installed (Warren Harhay's ST). It required "burping" (strange way to put it, but that's what the ST1100 guys call it). Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 10:40:37 EST To: greg_eyrich@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr My kids gave me a GIVI SR10 rack for Christmas. How did they know to do that, you say? Well, I had a little to do with it - me and my GIVI catalog! For my '94 I am going to spring for the E460NF. I think that one is shiny black. I am going to go for solid color and with the stoplight option. I think anthracite is probably a not-so-shiny dark gray. You could write to GIVI at givi@mindspring.com and find out more. They will be glad to send a catalog but you have to buy through a dealer. Happy Holidays, John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:45:03 EST To: Jfmoemd@aol.com, greg_eyrich@hotmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800: GIVI 50 ltr vs. 46 ltr The GiVi E46, I think is the same case I have on my 94, minus the stop light. I would suggest getting the optional back rest if you plan to carry passengers. Not only is the GiVi Top Case functional, I believe it really adds to the appearance of the Pacific Coast. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:05:31 +0100 Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:05:25 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: Changed E-mail adress Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:10:37 +0100 Hi all I'm changed from provider so my E-mail adress is changed to. It's now vuure@hetnet.nl instead of vuure@dds.nl . So everyone who had put my adress in his adress book can change it if you want ofcourse. I already unsubscribed at vuure@dds.nl and subscribed at vuure@hetnet.nl I wiss you a merry christmas and a happy 1998 Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@hetnet.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:13:59 EST To: dkgross@halcyon.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: hi philips In a message dated 97-12-24 01:35:41 EST, dkgross@halcyon.com writes: << Thanks for the groovy clock/voltmeter thingy!! >> Am I missing something? What's up with the aformentioned "thingy"? Oh, and Happy Happy... Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Happy Holidays Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:47:11 -0600 Hi, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. May the coming year be full of time on the motorcycle, safely and serenely. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 16:46:50 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: GuntherSki , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: hi philips GuntherSki wrote: > << Thanks for the groovy clock/voltmeter thingy!! >> > > Am I missing something? What's up with the aformentioned "thingy"? hehehe...just a little gift from Philips. It's a little digital clock/voltmeter thing that he picked up in Hong Kong. Once I figure out how/where to mount it, I'll post photos! any ideas, bryce? :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "PC800 Listservice" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "CB-750 List" Subject: PC800: RIDE today... Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 18:16:04 -0500 Wow what fun it is to ride today on a shinning red Honda...HOHOHO Hope everyone's Christmas is enjoyable,, here in Cincinnati it's been in the mid 30 degree's (Fahrenheit) today... and I couldn't stand the PMS!!!! I had to go for a spin around the neighborhood, So on blitzen on donner on the new Carhartt's Jacket the company bought and matching Bib overall's that I bought my self, yes were talking thermal type work suit....ohh they're NICE!!!! Just a light spitting of wet stuff.. But nonetheless it was enjoyable... boy did it feel great...now if SANTA could bring me a AEROSTITCH and a ST1100..... Merry New Year Y'ALL!!!! Life is short---Go ride! 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 14:42:48 -0800 To: AtessaH@aol.com, RUTHERW@mail.firn.edu, cathy.farrow@sun.com, brent@ngc.com, chasj@ix.netcom.com, Dana_Thornton@netframe.com, spencer_farrow@watsonwyatt.com, lta2sum@garlic.com, Erin.Dolin@forsythe.stanford.edu, pastry@leland.stanford.edu, JLStanley@attmail.com, kevinmcd@earthlink.net, aconner@satie.arts.usf.edu, 71762.604@compuserve.com, delia.harger@forsythe.stanford.edu, mparks@webflight.org, bingham@gte.net, nibuj@ibm.net, tsharpee@wse.com, NANCY.LAMOTTE@forsythe.stanford.edu, suzi@tibco.com, PJGIRVEN@aol.com, MaxGorki@aol.com, katerrt@aol.com Subject: PC800: HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!! :-) Cc: all@tibco.com, cog@micapeak.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Here's wishing you and yours a wonderful, happy and safe holiday season!! 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Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:04:35 CST Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:03:49 -0800 From: Bryce Ulrich Subject: RE: PC800: Re: fuel cell To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu <7BB61B44F197D011892800805FD4F79201AB0F35@red-03-msg.dns.microsoft.com> The “burping” is due to the limited size of the connecting hose between the main tank and the aux tank (it’s a gravity fed system). When filling, the gas is coming in faster than it can flow freely to the aux tank so when you fill-up you have to slow down and wait for the fuel to flow. Ron reportedly builds the tanks with the largest diameter braided hose he can find but it’s still restricts fast flow. Normal riding requires far lower flow rates there’s no impairment or restriction affecting the engine.. Of course, an extra few minutes to fill-up 11 gal. after a 500+ mile non-stop ride isn’t all that bad. \”/ I’m on the wait-list for one of Ron’s tanks for my ST once his daughter Kathy gets things up and running again. I can’t wait! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT “TruST” ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:23:35 CST id NAA21917 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:20:05 -0600 (CST) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021889; Fri Dec 26 13:19:22 1997 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:15:16 -0800 From: Greg Chambers Subject: PC800: A PC Christmas To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Well, it was definitely a PC Christmas this year. Motoport boots and pants, a tank bag, and last but least, convex mirrors. Went riding up the Pacific Coast Highway to Camarillo this morning and was toasty warm even though it was pretty cold (that's about 42 degrees for you non-west-coasters). *Yes*!!! Hope everyone had a very nice family Christmas. Best wishes for 1998. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:54:04 CST Content-return: allowed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:53:18 -0800 From: Bryce Ulrich Subject: RE: PC800: hi philips To: "'dkgross@halcyon.com'" , GuntherSki , pc800@hpc.uh.edu <7BB61B44F197D011892800805FD4F79201AB0F34@red-03-msg.dns.microsoft.com> << Once I figure out how/where to mount it, I'll post photos! any ideas, bryce? :>) Well with sight unseen and no idea for it’s dimensions or required hookups, I’d have to guess and say mount it in/on the right speaker cutout. Run the wires down the left side of the bike. Happy Holidays everyone! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT “TruST” ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 03:17:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 22:08:57 -0500 Greg, I am jealous. Can't be any better than riding your PC up the Pacific Coast Highway. Vince in warm but flat Fort Myers,FL ---------- > a tank bag, and last but least, convex mirrors. Went riding up the Pacific > Coast Highway to Camarillo this morning and was toasty warm even though it > was pretty cold (that's about 42 degrees for you non-west-coasters). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:15:51 -0700 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas whaaa. it's 32 and raining in seattle. whaaa. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: timmacy@juno.com by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AmP25283; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:35:27 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 19:22:24 -0800 Subject: PC800: Call Me A Cab, please! My neglected e-mail wasn't the only thing that suffered in the past two months; I also had my monthly reading material pile up. Today I was finally getting back to past issues of MCN when I noted an interesting paragraph in the November issue: In the story on Motorcycling vs. Commuting (pages 14 - 16), the author was talking about London's notorious gridlock and a burgeoning new industry--using motorcycles as taxis. And I quote: "If you're a "yuppie in the city", and in a hurry to make a flight at Heathrow to your offshore bank, it's no problem - catch a motorcycle taxi and hang onto your bumbershoot. Apparently the quiet, capable Honda Pacific Coast has found a happy place in providing livery service of this kind." Hmmm, could New York City be far behind? Tim Macy Portland, OR '94 PC - 64,292 Miles Of Smiles "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -- Former Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:21:48 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:10:09 -0500 ---------- > From: Dave Gross > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 10:15 PM > > whaaa. > > it's 32 and raining in seattle. When isn't it? ;-) > > whaaa. > > > -- > > Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP > http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:21:50 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Mike Whited" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Call Me A Cab, please! Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:17:25 -0500 ---------- > From: timmacy@juno.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Call Me A Cab, please! > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 10:22 PM > > In the story on Motorcycling vs. Commuting (pages 14 - 16), the author > was talking about London's notorious gridlock and a burgeoning new > industry--using motorcycles as taxis. And I quote: > > "If you're a "yuppie in the city", and in a hurry to make a flight at > Heathrow to your offshore bank, it's no problem - catch a motorcycle taxi > and hang onto your bumbershoot. Apparently the quiet, capable Honda > Pacific Coast has found a happy place in providing livery service of this > kind." I saw a news byte on tv about 3 years ago about MC taxis in London. The clip showed the "cabbie" opening the trunk on a PC, handing a lady (in long skirt) a helmet. She climbed aboard, tucking her skirt beneath her, and "away they go"! I loved it! > > Tim Macy > Portland, OR > '94 PC - 64,292 Miles Of Smiles > > "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities > in our air and water that are doing it." -- Former Vice President Dan > Quayle > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 27 Dec 1997 06:59:19 -0800 Sat, 27 Dec 1997 06:59:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Riding Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 09:59:35 -0500 Well it's cloudy (has been since the beginning of fall) and 28 this morning in Indianapolis. triple whaaaaa!! John Louk -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:28:08 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Riding Hey, John: Same story here in Tennessee weather-wise. Rain yesterday and a few whisps of snow last night and this morning. No precip this afternoon; so, I got in a nice ride; not a long one, but nice just the same. I took the Hawk GT out today, but the PCs are primed and ready for New Year's Day. We figure any year that begins with a motorcycle ride can't be all bad; so, we always take at least a short ride on 1 January to start things off right. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:28:09 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Hi, Greg: Sounds like you did pretty well this year. I did fairly well myself with a new Shoei RF-800 and a set of Motoport Polaris T gloves. I wore both today, and they worked quite well. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BESBIKER Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:45:15 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: broken plastic? hello from someone new to this list. i just bought a 89 PC800 and my first ride was a cold one here in Pa. but i was very impressed with the handling of the bike and i think i will enjoy riding the PC. i have started to explore under the plastic and i am finding a few cracked and broken peices of plastic. does anyone have a good fix for repairing this plastic? thank you in advance barry 84 Magna 88 GW 89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:32:08 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, kurvers@dsv.nl, plcs@dsv.nl, agray@milehigh.denver.net, jmilling@post3.tele.dk From: HPCE Gerard Subject: PC800: Lightblue version of PC800 Dear fellow PC800 riders, Finally, after a long time, I've got my collection of factory painted PC800 models complete. Last night I received a picture of the light blue model which has been officially imported in French. It's even more baeutifull then the silver model I received from Singapore. You can see the picture at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/french-blue.htm Thanks to Eric from Paris, France Have a very nice 1998. Gerard Gerard Diepeveen, Secretary for Honda Pacific Coast Europe email: pce@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacific Coast Rocky Mountain 1998 tour: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/rocky-mountain98-tour.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Honda Pacific Coast Europe website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 09:53:04 -0500 From: Jason To: HPCE Gerard CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, kurvers@dsv.nl, plcs@dsv.nl, agray@milehigh.denver.net, jmilling@post3.tele.dk Subject: Re: PC800: Lightblue version of PC800 I wonder how many people would _not_ think it's a BMW... HPCE Gerard wrote: > Dear fellow PC800 riders, > > Finally, after a long time, I've got my collection of factory painted PC800 > models complete. > Last night I received a picture of the light blue model which has been > officially imported in French. > It's even more baeutifull then the silver model I received from Singapore. > You can see the picture at: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pce/pictures/french-blue.htm > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "PC800 Listservice" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "CB-750 List" Subject: PC800: what a day for a ride Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:38:14 -0500 Hey what a day for a ride...... It was a bit brisk but fun = nonetheless.... Went over to a bike garage bash over at the Pope = Brothers (local HSTA'rs) farm over NR the Ind./Oh stateline.... wow what = a crowd we had, about 25 folks with some real diehards that rode in!!! = Yes I rode and it was snowing just a bit this afternoon, so that should = give you the idea it was just at 32 degrees faranheit... I got there = just in time for the vitals, yum yum, these guys have a full kitchen in = their garage!!!! but nonetheless is the fact that several bikes were = worked on.... Several folks took advantage of hospitality to r/r front = fork seal, steering bearing, mind you that's no easy task on some = models...and front fork springs... And we diagnosed that my PC800 needs = fork seals and fluid replacement, the clutch fluid was perrty dirty.... = And the leaking fork seals may neceitate the r/r of front brake pads.... = argh... Any body got some good $$$ prices on these replacemnt parts..... = I am open for suggestion... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford/CINCINNATI, OH USA!!!/AKA:cableguy@one.net (or) = Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 <<<>>> Guzzidoug's Motorcycle Stuff "I'll Club A Seal, To Make A Deal" = http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1696 Ohio H.S.T.A. http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/oh-hsta/ Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- = http://www.reynoldsgolf.com Touched By An Angel http://www.touched.com As Per US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5,Subchapter II 227 Unsolicited [JUNK MAIL] commercial advertising is NOT Welcome here=20 href=3D"http://www.reynoldsgolf.com">http://www.reynoldsgolf.com
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:57:52 -0900 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Riding (and whining) At 09:59 12/27/97 -0500, you wrote: >Well it's cloudy (has been since the beginning of fall) and 28 this morning >in Indianapolis. triple whaaaaa!! > >John Louk Oh you bunch of whiners! It is 20 below zero and cloudy over here, has been like that for the past two months! ;-) Happy New Year every one! If Santa had a Pacific Coast, all of his reindeer would be toast. Happy Holidays! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: you say your looking for a list??? Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:00:47 -0500 you say your looking for a Motorcycle oriented/related mail list.... well here's the mama of all lists point your browser to: http://alutia.micapeak.com/mailinglistroundup/ or try: http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/moto/mailing-lists.html this should give you any list your looking for.... yes boys an girls I am suffering from PMS... I have blown fork seals... = and its very cold and I am trying out the new ver I.E. 4.0.... kinda = neat but has bugs...now I know why I had gotten weird looking messages = before from other posters.. those of you using 4.o can change color add = back grounds.. all sorts of strange little tweaks Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford/CINCINNATI, OH USA!!!/AKA:cableguy@one.net (or) = Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 <<<>>> Guzzidoug's Motorcycle Stuff "I'll Club A Seal, To Make A Deal" = http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1696 Ohio H.S.T.A. http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/oh-hsta/ Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- = http://www.reynoldsgolf.com Touched By An Angel http://www.touched.com As Per US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5,Subchapter II 227 Unsolicited [JUNK MAIL] commercial advertising is NOT Welcome here ! href=3D"http://www.reynoldsgolf.com">http://www.reynoldsgolf.com
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-- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 07:28:48 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Riding into 1998 To: John Castagna , HSTA State Directors , Danny Gordon , HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List , Ron Maudlin <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "Samuel \"Todd\" Nunnally" , "Donald L. \"Moose\" Parish" , Elbert Silbaugh Best wishes for a happy, healthy year with lots of dry, safe miles on you= r bike! The Sawyer Tribe is hunkered down here in the chilly South, expecti= ng a bit of frozen precipitation in the next day or so. We survived the holiday onslaught, heavy traffic and frayed nerves of anxious drivers. Fo= r us, the winter months will be a time to do some house and garage cleaning= =2E In addition, Lynn has knee replacements scheduled for January (her left) and April (her right), so I'll be waiting on her hand and foot like I've done for the last forty-three years! She plans to retire next July and is= definitely looking forward to sleeping late, drinking coffee and reading the daily newspaper! I continue to ride during the winter months, but on = a limited basis depending upon the weather. Lynn and I sold our Aerostich Roadcrafter suits recently, and I will probably replace mine with a First= Gear Kilimanjaro jacket and Hypertex pants. Any evaluations of these item= s would be appreciated. My '90 Pacific Coast is a keeper...it looks and run= s great! I look forward to seeing many of you during the coming year, and t= o exchanging E-mail messages with you also! Laura and I plan to ride out to= Taos, New Mexico in June to STAR '98, and we anticipate seeing many of yo= u at that annual event. Take care and God bless... Dana, Lynn and Laura (the Sawyer Tribe) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 97 08:23:03 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: Francois Saint Laurent , wingman@teleport.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Pictures on Bob's Web page The four dots are velcro that hold on a lens protector. Living in Oregon which usually have winter snow, that result in graveled roads, I wanted the protection. I would rather replace a protective cover for around $20 rather than the headlight assembly for a broken lens. I got it from the Wingman here in Portland. I am not sure of the price. He can be reached at wingman@teleport.com if you are interested. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Pictures on Bob's Web page Author: Francois Saint Laurent at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 12/20/97 8:52 PM Hi Wanda . Nice bike..the color is great! (I have a '95). I noticed on one of the pictures that you seem to have 4 black dots on the headlight. Is this some type of headlight cover, to protect the original lens? If so...do you like it, would you recommend it, and where did you get it? I have seen a lens cover offered for the ST1100, but not for the PC800, and I suspect that it would be a nice accessory, given the price of a new Honda lens cover... I'm curious to know.... Thanks Wanda... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Brown To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: A PC Christmas Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:43:10 -0800 I have been interested in getting the RF-800 and would appreciate any reviews on it. Does it really only take 2 seconds to change the shield? tom Hi, Greg: Sounds like you did pretty well this year. I did fairly well myself with a new Shoei RF-800 and a set of Motoport Polaris T gloves. I wore both today, and they worked quite well. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Prince, Roger" To: "'John Castagna '" , "'hsta-stdir@listproc.bgsu.edu'" , "'Danny Gordon '" , "'HondaPacificCoastOwners '" , "'Maudlin '" <74726.2016@compuserve.com> Cc: "'71430.340@compuserve.com'" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, "'cbx@mediaone.net'" , "'giviusa@mindspring.com'" , "'mtld2@ols.net'" Subject: RE: PC800: Riding into 1998 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:24:10 -0500 A Happy New Year to all. I'm sure glad when I got home to Franklin,MA, last Monday from work with a full tank of gas I connected the Battery Tender to the PC (PC800, ie.). Right now I'm at my son's in the sunny South. Mt.Airy, NC. Yeah, sure. We woke up this morning to snow and a forecast of 3-6". But the forecast goes up every time the weatherman looks out the window. Latest forecast is 10-12" here. I guess we won't be going to my other son's in Charlotte today. Nothing to do but but play on a PC (Pentium,ie.) and drink beer until we run dry. Roger Prince ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dana L. Sawyer To: John Castagna; HSTA State Directors; Danny Gordon; HondaPacificCoastOwners; HSTA Postings to List; Ron Maudlin; Samuel "Todd" Nunnally; Donald L. "Moose" Parish; Elbert Silbaugh Sent: 12/29/97 7:28:48 AM Subject: PC800: Riding into 1998 Best wishes for a happy, healthy year with lots of dry, safe miles on your bike! The Sawyer Tribe is hunkered down here in the chilly South, expecting a bit of frozen precipitation in the next day or so. We survived the holiday onslaught, heavy traffic and frayed nerves of anxious drivers. For us, the winter months will be a time to do some house and garage cleaning. In addition, Lynn has knee replacements scheduled for January (her left) and April (her right), so I'll be waiting on her hand and foot like I've done for the last forty-three years! She plans to retire next July and is definitely looking forward to sleeping late, drinking coffee and reading the daily newspaper! I continue to ride during the winter months, but on a limited basis depending upon the weather. Lynn and I sold our Aerostich Roadcrafter suits recently, and I will probably replace mine with a First Gear Kilimanjaro jacket and Hypertex pants. Any evaluations of these items would be appreciated. My '90 Pacific Coast is a keeper...it looks and runs great! I look forward to seeing many of you during the coming year, and to exchanging E-mail messages with you also! Laura and I plan to ride out to Taos, New Mexico in June to STAR '98, and we anticipate seeing many of you at that annual event. Take care and God bless... Dana, Lynn and Laura (the Sawyer Tribe) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 12:23:17 -0800 From: Eric Matthews To: "Prince, Roger" CC: "'John Castagna '" , "'hsta-stdir@listproc.bgsu.edu'" , "'Danny Gordon '" , "'HondaPacificCoastOwners '" , "'Maudlin '" <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "'71430.340@compuserve.com'" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, "'cbx@mediaone.net'" , "'giviusa@mindspring.com'" , "'mtld2@ols.net'" Subject: Re: PC800: Riding into 1998 Glad to hear that you have provisions to see you through this rough winter! ;-) Eric Prince, Roger wrote: > ...and drink beer until we run dry. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:04:11 -0600 From: "Michael S. Keller" To: Thomas Brown Cc: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Thomas Brown wrote: > I have been interested in getting the RF-800 and would appreciate any > > reviews on it. Does it really only take 2 seconds to change the shield? > > The shields look the same (to me) as those for the RF-700 (which I have). If I take my time, it takes about ten seconds to change the shield. -- -Michael S. Keller, N5RDV Technical Analyst, Sprint Paranet Tulsa Office -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:56:20 -0500 From: Jason To: Wanda Bailie CC: Francois Saint Laurent , wingman@teleport.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Pictures on Bob's Web page Is this a "smoked" cover? I'm looking for one that would tint the headlight area darker in the fasion popular on trucks and some muscle cars. The type of thing that you take off at dusk because it diminishes headlight effectiveness (And visibility to other drivers, I realize...) Wanda Bailie wrote: > The four dots are velcro that hold on a lens protector. Living > in Oregon which usually have winter snow, that result in graveled > roads, I wanted the protection. I would rather replace a > protective cover for around $20 rather than the headlight > assembly for a broken lens. I got it from the Wingman here in > Portland. I am not sure of the price. He can be reached at > wingman@teleport.com if you are interested. > Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Pictures on Bob's Web page > Author: Francois Saint Laurent at INTERNET-KENTROX > Date: 12/20/97 8:52 PM > > Hi Wanda . > > > Nice bike..the color is great! (I have a '95). I noticed on one of the > pictures that you seem to have 4 black dots on the headlight. Is this some > type of headlight cover, to protect the original lens? If so...do you like > it, would you recommend it, and where did you get it? > > I have seen a lens cover offered for the ST1100, but not for the PC800, and > I suspect that it would be a nice accessory, given the price of a new Honda > lens cover... > > I'm curious to know.... > > Thanks Wanda... > > fsl :-) > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:56:02 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:56:50 -0600 From: jgeistlubtx@door.net (geist, james) To: PC800 Subject: PC800: One week till Rifle Hello all. I ordered my Rifle today. They said it would be about a week. ***It's going to be a long seven day's*** See ya'll! James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary J. Kissinger" To: Subject: PC800: Aspencades and the like... Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:59:17 -0800 Hi folks, I've loved my PC more than any other bike, but I am getting very curious about owning a Aspencade or what ever Honda has out there that is smoother and more opulent. I would greatly appreciate feedback on these machines from out esteemed members who have had some backround in this area. What would interest me are comments regarding maintenance, MPG, etc., etc. Please write, friends. Gary Kissinger zzeek@gte.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 03:19:20 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Aspencades and the like... Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:10:42 -0500 Gary, I went from a PC to a 1500 Goldwing and back to a PC. Both great bikes. Sorry, but there is only one way for you to experience the change and that is to do it. Buy a used Wing at a reasonable price and try it for a while. Might be your cup of tea. If not, sell it without a big loss and you will know. Vince in Fort Myers,FL > I've loved my PC more than any other bike, but I am getting very curious > about owning a Aspencade or what ever Honda has out there that is smoother > and more opulent. I would greatly appreciate feedback on these machines > from out esteemed members who have had some backround in this area. What > would interest me are comments regarding maintenance, MPG, etc., etc. > Please write, friends. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "Vincent Santamaria" , Subject: Re: PC800: Aspencades and the like... Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:22:57 -0600 Vincent Santamaria counsels: > Sorry, but there is only one way for you to experience the change and that > is to do it. Buy a used Wing at a reasonable price and try it for a while. NOT. The better way is to rent one for a weekend. Look in the back of Rider or an AMA Motorcyclist issue (or any of the others, probably) for names and numbers of bike rental outfits. Rent a Wing for a weekend and then decide. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 03:50:36 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Aspencades and the like... Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:42:52 -0500 Good, make that a better, suggestion from Bob Ray. Rent one for a long evaluation ride. Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > > Vincent Santamaria counsels: > > > Sorry, but there is only one way for you to experience the change and > that > > is to do it. Buy a used Wing at a reasonable price and try it for a > while. > > NOT. The better way is to rent one for a weekend. Look in the back of > Rider or an AMA Motorcyclist issue (or any of the others, probably) for > names and numbers of bike rental outfits. Rent a Wing for a weekend > and then decide. > > Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: PC800: Re: PCs and GL1500s To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:04:37 +0800 (HKT) Hi Gary, I owned 2 PCs (sold the '89 pearl white and keep the '90 candy red), a '84 GL1200Asp and a '95 GL1500SE. They're great bikes, unique, with their own characters. I ride big bikes at the 1st beginning started from the Police Driving School, so the Wings won't cause me any problem. I also think this maybe the only difference between a PC and a GL1500. For maintenance, the carb syn is almost the same, both equipped with 2 carbs. On the other hand, a GL1500 maybe easier to workout the PMs and cleaning, or recharge the battery. Battery covers, engine side covers, radiator lower panel are snap on. The bolt-on body pieces on GOld Wing are easier to remove and reassy. than a PC, ie less broken tabs for 1st time or part-time mechanics. Gas consumption are ALMOST the same for both bikes, or only slightly higher for the GL1500 but a GOld Wing is smoother, much more low rpm torque, and even quieter. On some back streets, you can even let the idle drive the bike in 4th gear running smoothly. I think the only killing point of a Gold Wing is the size and the weight, nothing about the handling, it's all about riding a big heavy bike in summer 90F+, sitting in the traffic. > Sorry, but there is only one way for you to experience the change and that > is to do it. Buy a used Wing at a reasonable price and try it for a while. > Might Don't do that! You will ended up with keeping both like me. Good luck in Wing hunting. -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * Vice Chairman, Safe Riders (HK) Association * * GWRRA Hong Kong Chapter (proposed) * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:18:22 EST To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Hi, All: In a message dated 97-12-29 13:44:16 EST, Tom writes: << I have been interested in getting the RF-800 and would appreciate any reviews on it. Does it really only take 2 seconds to change the shield? >> I've only worn my new RF-800 on three short rides; so, I can't really give a full review. So far, I like it a lot. The fit and finish are typical Shoei, flawless. The vent system seems fairly effective when it comes to keeping the shield clear with temps in the low-to-mid-30s. There is some fogging when you are stopped, but it clears quickly once you begin moving. I don't have the optional breath guard, but I think it might be a good idea in the winter time. The shield system has a two-position cam that allows you to choose between a fully-closed shield and a slightly open shield. The latter helps keep the fogging down, but it does allow a bit more wind noise than when the shield is fully closed. Overall, the helmet is the quietest I've ever experienced, although behind a tall fairing that puts it just out of the free-air stream, it does, like any helmet, transmit some noise due to turbulence. You can get the shield off in about 2 seconds, but I'd allow 30 seconds for the complete change procedure--of course, I'm not as dexterous as I once was. Suffice it to say, the shield system is well designed and easy to work with. Being a fiberglass lid, it is a bit (2 or 3 oz.) heavier than the current top- of-the-line helmets that are made of Kevlar and other composites, but at 54 oz. it is quite comfortable in the weight department. In short, I think you can't go wrong with the RF-800 (unless you have an "Arai Head"). It is a very good helmet at a reasonable price. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.texoma.net (8.8.6/CNET_TOP_500) with SMTP id WAA26864; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:39:16 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:39:16 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:26:00 -0600 To: "Prince, Roger" , "'John Castagna '" , "'hsta-stdir@listproc.bgsu.edu'" , "'HondaPacificCoastOwners '" , "'Maudlin '" <74726.2016@compuserve.com> From: Danny Gordon Subject: RE: PC800: Riding into 1998 Cc: "'71430.340@compuserve.com'" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, "'cbx@mediaone.net'" , "'giviusa@mindspring.com'" , "'mtld2@ols.net'" At 02:24 PM 12/29/97 -0500, Prince, Roger wrote: We woke up this morning to snow and a >forecast of 3-6". But the forecast goes up every time the weatherman >looks out the window. Latest forecast is 10-12" here. I guess we won't >be going to my other son's in Charlotte today. >Nothing to do but but play on a PC (Pentium,ie.) and drink beer until we >run dry. > >Roger Prince > Guess I shouldn't mention that the weather in Texas has been 50-60 and mostly clear. New Year's Day forecast is more of the same. Better get some sort of riding in on Day 1, to make the weather gods happy!! Danny and Sheri Gordon HSTA #s 1934SU/1748 Honda Polaris of North Texas SUPER PRICES on SUPER PRODUCTS! dgordon@texoma.net hpnt@texoma.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XeO05512; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:50:37 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:50:28 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Can anyone compare the 800 to the 700? I've never had a full face helmet, but i'm considering getting one. My dealer has both the 700 & the 800 in stock. I looked at both of them about two months ago, and I thought the 700 would be better because it had two ventilation holes, while the 800 had only one - or do I remember wrong? Any other advantages/disadvantages of one over the other? Thanks. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:18:22 EST JTSMCRIDER writes: >Hi, All: > >In a message dated 97-12-29 13:44:16 EST, Tom writes: > ><< I have been interested in getting the RF-800 and would appreciate >any > reviews on it. Does it really only take 2 seconds to change the >shield? >>> > >I've only worn my new RF-800 on three short rides; so, I can't really >give a >full review. So far, I like it a lot. The fit and finish are typical >Shoei, >flawless. The vent system seems fairly effective when it comes to >keeping the >shield clear with temps in the low-to-mid-30s. There is some fogging >when you >are stopped, but it clears quickly once you begin moving. I don't >have the >optional breath guard, but I think it might be a good idea in the >winter time. >The shield system has a two-position cam that allows you to choose >between a >fully-closed shield and a slightly open shield. The latter helps keep >the >fogging down, but it does allow a bit more wind noise than when the >shield is >fully closed. Overall, the helmet is the quietest I've ever >experienced, >although behind a tall fairing that puts it just out of the free-air >stream, >it does, like any helmet, transmit some noise due to turbulence. > >You can get the shield off in about 2 seconds, but I'd allow 30 >seconds for >the complete change procedure--of course, I'm not as dexterous as I >once was. >Suffice it to say, the shield system is well designed and easy to work >with. > >Being a fiberglass lid, it is a bit (2 or 3 oz.) heavier than the >current top- >of-the-line helmets that are made of Kevlar and other composites, but >at 54 >oz. it is quite comfortable in the weight department. > >In short, I think you can't go wrong with the RF-800 (unless you have >an "Arai >Head"). It is a very good helmet at a reasonable price. > >JT >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pilewis1@concentric.net Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:22:02 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: irapaul@aol.com Subject: PC800: A new member of the SCPCRC! I think this message got lost in cyber-land, so I'm resending it to all PC800 so it doesn't get lost again!!! :) ---------------------------------------- I'd like to introduce everyone to Ira Clark who rides a beautiful '94 PC. I met Ira, can you guess, at Fry's. If you don't remember, that's where Johan met me. When I looked at first, I thought it might be Eric visiting Fry's, as was approaching from Ira's back. But I was pleasantly surprised to meet Ira who may be joining us for our Jan. 17th ride. Ira was with a friend on a Virago, but I said even not PC's can join in the fun!! :) I'll let Ira tell us all about himself, since I really didn't ask much. Ira, you can check us out at http://john.csun.edu/pc/pcphotos/pcrphoto.htm and at our home page at http://scpcrc.hypermart.net/. Looking forward to hearing more about you. Take care and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Phil ************* *Phil Lewis * *'90 PC * *"Delta Red"* *So. Cal. * ************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:29:00 -0800 Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:28:57 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Louk" To: Cc: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Aspencades and the like... Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 08:29:24 -0500 Gary, Don't go down that street!! I almost did a year ago. The Aspencade seduced me with its turbine-like smoothness and then, after my test ride at the '96 Hoot, I got back on the PC800 and it was like the days driving both an aircraft carrier and a destroyer. I've done both and you can guess the analogy. Keep the PC because sooner or later, you'd sell the Wing-a-bago and return to fun again. John :-) '90 PC - Ruby -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:24:09 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Headlight cover for Pc800 To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List Questions have been asked recently about a Lexan headlight cover for the Pacific Coast. I do not know of one made specifically for the PC, but the= St-1100 headlight cover made by Ventura fits perfectly. With the top edge= lined up with the top edge of the headlight, the bottom edge of the cove= r extends about 1/4" below the bottom edge of the headlight...looks great! I've had one on my bike for a couple of years now. You can order this and other neat stuff from Rob Pemble, c/o Sport Tourin= g Accessories, 1/800/889-5550. Other things that he sells that I have on my bike include a Throttlemeist= er cruise control and wide angle spot mirrors. Dana P.S. Rob has a full-page ad in our monthly magazine..The STAReview. He offers free shipping for HSTA members... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:24:16 -0500 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Message from Roger Prince To: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Relayed from Dana Sawyer... A Happy New Year to all. I'm sure glad when I got home to Franklin,MA, last Monday from work with a full tank of gas I connected the Battery Tender to the PC (PC800, ie.). Right now I'm at my son's in the sunny South. Mt.Airy, NC. Yeah, sure. We woke up this morning to snow and a forecast of 3-6". But the forecast goes up every time the weatherman looks out the window. Latest forecast is 10-12" here. I guess we won't be going to my other son's in Charlotte today. Nothing to do but but play on a PC (Pentium,ie.) and drink beer until we run dry. Roger Prince -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/971030) via SMTP id KAA08298 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 10:02:19 -0500 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: A PC Christmas Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:36:06 -0500 Richard, if you've never owned a full-face helmet, you're in for a very different experience with either Shoei. Some riders actually feel claustrophobic when making this change. Personally, I MUCH prefer a full-face and feel a lot more protected with one. A properly fitted full face helmet will place light pressure on your cheeks which can be a be irritating at first. It will also be a lot warmer (unfortunately both winter and summer) than an open-face. Both my wife and I have RF700s and we love them. The RF700 is very quiet helmet; haven't tried the RF800 so I can't compare. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Richard A Hardy [SMTP:rahardy@juno.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 1997 11:50 PM To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Can anyone compare the 800 to the 700? I've never had a full face helmet, but i'm considering getting one. My dealer has both the 700 & the 800 in stock. I looked at both of them about two months ago, and I thought the 700 would be better because it had two ventilation holes, while the 800 had only one - or do I remember wrong? Any other advantages/disadvantages of one over the other? Thanks. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:18:22 EST JTSMCRIDER writes: >Hi, All: > >In a message dated 97-12-29 13:44:16 EST, Tom writes: > ><< I have been interested in getting the RF-800 and would appreciate >any > reviews on it. Does it really only take 2 seconds to change the >shield? >>> > >I've only worn my new RF-800 on three short rides; so, I can't really >give a >full review. So far, I like it a lot. The fit and finish are typical >Shoei, >flawless. The vent system seems fairly effective when it comes to >keeping the >shield clear with temps in the low-to-mid-30s. There is some fogging >when you >are stopped, but it clears quickly once you begin moving. I don't >have the >optional breath guard, but I think it might be a good idea in the >winter time. >The shield system has a two-position cam that allows you to choose >between a >fully-closed shield and a slightly open shield. The latter helps keep >the >fogging down, but it does allow a bit more wind noise than when the >shield is >fully closed. Overall, the helmet is the quietest I've ever >experienced, >although behind a tall fairing that puts it just out of the free-air >stream, >it does, like any helmet, transmit some noise due to turbulence. > >You can get the shield off in about 2 seconds, but I'd allow 30 >seconds for >the complete change procedure--of course, I'm not as dexterous as I >once was. >Suffice it to say, the shield system is well designed and easy to work >with. > >Being a fiberglass lid, it is a bit (2 or 3 oz.) heavier than the >current top- >of-the-line helmets that are made of Kevlar and other composites, but >at 54 >oz. it is quite comfortable in the weight department. > >In short, I think you can't go wrong with the RF-800 (unless you have >an "Arai >Head"). It is a very good helmet at a reasonable price. > >JT >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger_Ries@gs.moore.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:20:35 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: A PC Christmas Jim is right about the full face helmet placing pressure on the cheeks but after use the helmet will adjust to your face and be very comfortable. I have always warn a full face helmet both for protection and I just didn't like riding without one. When I first started riding 12 years ago and got a helmet I just went for the full face. This past summer I am glad I was wearing it because I went face first into the trunk of a car. Let me say that the gouge on the chin guard of the helmet looks a lot nicer on it then it would on my face. I looked at both the RF700 and the RF800 this year and I got the RF700. Why, it cost less because it last years model. Both are excellent helmets and I didn't see that much difference between them. Two things about looking for a helmet: 1. Make sure it fits don't buy a Shoei because it's a Shoei. Like JT said, "(unless you have an "Arai Head")" 2. Go with a light color. I had a black helmet and it tends to get real warm from the sun shining down on it. Good shopping and Merry New Year to all Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 08:04:08 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: Jason Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com, wingman@teleport.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Re: Pictures on Bob's Web page No it is a clear cover.....for protection only. Wanda Bailie ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Pictures on Bob's Web page Author: Jason at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 12/29/97 6:52 PM Is this a "smoked" cover? I'm looking for one that would tint the headlight area darker in the fasion popular on trucks and some muscle cars. The type of thing that you take off at dusk because it diminishes headlight effectiveness (And visibility to other drivers, I realize...) Wanda Bailie wrote: > The four dots are velcro that hold on a lens protector. Living > in Oregon which usually have winter snow, that result in graveled > roads, I wanted the protection. I would rather replace a > protective cover for around $20 rather than the headlight > assembly for a broken lens. I got it from the Wingman here in > Portland. I am not sure of the price. He can be reached at > wingman@teleport.com if you are interested. > Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Pictures on Bob's Web page > Author: Francois Saint Laurent at INTERNET-KENTROX > Date: 12/20/97 8:52 PM > > Hi Wanda . > > > Nice bike..the color is great! (I have a '95). I noticed on one of the > pictures that you seem to have 4 black dots on the headlight. Is this some > type of headlight cover, to protect the original lens? If so...do you like > it, would you recommend it, and where did you get it? > > I have seen a lens cover offered for the ST1100, but not for the PC800, and > I suspect that it would be a nice accessory, given the price of a new Honda > lens cover... > > I'm curious to know.... > > Thanks Wanda... > > fsl :-) > > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 08:10:51 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Dana L. Sawyer" Cc: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Headlight cover for Pc800 The one I have was made specifically for the Pacific Coast. It was made by the Wingman here in Portland,OR. His father has a PC and he does many custom things for it. I get to benifet sometimes too. He also does....I got him a set of hiway peg adapters from Jim. On my previous post I gave his e-mail address. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Headlight cover for Pc800 Author: "Dana L. Sawyer" at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 12/30/97 6:26 AM Questions have been asked recently about a Lexan headlight cover for the Pacific Coast. I do not know of one made specifically for the PC, but the= St-1100 headlight cover made by Ventura fits perfectly. With the top edge= lined up with the top edge of the headlight, the bottom edge of the cove= r extends about 1/4" below the bottom edge of the headlight...looks great! I've had one on my bike for a couple of years now. You can order this and other neat stuff from Rob Pemble, c/o Sport Tourin= g Accessories, 1/800/889-5550. Other things that he sells that I have on my bike include a Throttlemeist= er cruise control and wide angle spot mirrors. Dana P.S. Rob has a full-page ad in our monthly magazine..The STAReview. He offers free shipping for HSTA members... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:33:32 -0500 From: Jason To: "Dana L. Sawyer" CC: HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List Subject: Re: PC800: Headlight cover for Pc800 When I purchased my PC it had wide angle mirrors. Previous owner had put them on and suggested I keep them. He was right; they're extremely handy. Unfortunately they were attached with some type of black goo. In weather 70 degrees or under it was fine, but after sitting in 85 degree, sunny weather while stopped for construction for 45 minutes without moving an inch (except to put the side stand down) the