********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:31:30 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: deselms@royal.net Cc: AJDOBBS@aol.com, STBURNUM@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove Did Greg just remove himself from the list accidentally by including "the words" in his message? Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > AJDOBBS@aol.com and STBURNUM@aol.com both wrote (in one of their cases, > twice): > > > > remove > > > > Hmmm. Maybe what they say about AOLers is true. (Just kidding! Some > of my best friends are AOLers.) > > Guys, READ the information contained in the footer of each and every > message that this list server spits out, to wit: > > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:36:17 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 10:37:05 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Steve Wilson CC: AJDOBBS@aol.com, STBURNUM@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove Steve Wilson wrote: > > Did Greg just remove himself from the list accidentally by including "the > words" in his message? > (Please... it's "Gregg" -- three Gs, not in a row. Not "Greg.") If that's intended to be tongue-in-cheek, then your humor's a bit too subtle for me. On the other hand, if your question is serious, then no, of course not, and here's why... Firstly, after 21 years in the computer business, I just don't make mistakes like that. (In fact, I didn't make mistakes like that when I only had two years in the business. I can be extremely anally retentive when I need to be... or hadn't you noticed?) Secondly, on this list server, "remove" isn't a valid list command. (Well, actually, it *could* be, depending on what list server software is being used. But even if it is, most versions of list server software ignore list commands that are mixed-in with a lot of other text, or which are not alone on the very first line of a given e-mail message, as was the case in the message you're questioning.) Thirdly, and much more importantly, no list commands are valid when sent to the *list* address (in this case, pc800@hpc.uh.edu). They must be sent to the *majordomo* address (in this case, majordomo@hpc.uh.edu). And finally, the command, even if sent to the majordomo address, would not be "remove" but rather "unsubscribe," and would need to be followed by the list name (in this case "pc800.") So the correct way to unsubscribe from this list would be to send a fresh e-mail message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu and leave the subject line blank and make the one and only line of text contained in the body of the message "unsubscribe pc800" (no quotes, of course). Also, if you have an automatic signature, it should be suppressed. Of course, if everyone would just bother to read the information in the footer of all messages emanating from this list server, they'd know all this. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: remove Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:44:00 -0500 Gregg L. DesElms dryly observes: > I can be extremely anally retentive when I need to be... An anal retentive programmer. Never heard of this phenomenon before. Are there lots of people like you? Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:53:55 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 10:54:44 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Bob Ray CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove Bob Ray wrote: > > Gregg L. DesElms dryly observes: > > > I can be extremely anally retentive when I need to be... > > An anal retentive programmer. Never heard of this > phenomenon before. Are there lots of people like you? > Geez, I certainly *hope* not. ;-) Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Bob Ray cc: deselms@royal.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Bob Ray wrote: > Gregg L. DesElms dryly observes: > > > I can be extremely anally retentive when I need to be... > > An anal retentive programmer. Never heard of this > phenomenon before. Are there lots of people like you? > > Bob Ray > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > Unfortunately there are many...they kind of have to be in order to program in the numerous "structured languages" now being used. If everything is not in its correct order and place within the program it won't work. Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 09:51:06 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstart PC At 21:37 9/30/97 -0400, MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-09-30 12:50:07 EDT, you write: > ><< Oh really? Your PC must have been a prototype, 'cause mine has a >pullcord, > just aft of the electrophoretic condenser. >> > > >A PC Lawnmower? Ummm... no, I actually had my snowmachine in mind, but come to think of it, a 22" blade _would_ fit underneath the PC. Hmmm... 3 minute lawn mowing, that means more time for riding! Wahoo! :-) Anyone know who sells turf saver tires in PC sizes? Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 10:04:52 -0800 To: PC800 From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Kickstart PC <19970928.121300.11847.1.Rocheux@juno.com> <342F1148.A4CAE85@etgn14.webo.dg.com> <3.0.2.32.19970930084809.006bbd8c@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> At 21:29 9/30/97 -0400, Jason wrote: >Hmm.. and here I thought there were very few design changes. My 94 has >this apparatus that hooks into the muffler. You put your lips to the >included hose (which can be stowed nicely in the trunk) and suck until >it turns over. Oh, yours must be a California (ELEV) model. :-) "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "PC800" , "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstart PC Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:23:55 -0500 > Jason wrote: > >You put your lips to the > >included hose (which can be stowed nicely in the trunk) and suck until > >it turns over. > > Oh, yours must be a California (ELEV) model. :-) > > Juan A. Goula Nice shot, Juan!!! Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:37:31 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: kickstart Kickstart or not kickstart that's the question. There ones we're 3 little PC's and a big bad designer The first little PC says to the designer, my pc has a little pulling cord, the big bad designer pulled the cord but the pc broke into pieces. The second little PC says to the designer, my pc has a kickstarter, the big bad designer placed his foot on the kickstarter and the pc was destroyed. The third little PC says to the designer, my pc has a little starter button, the big bad designer pushed the button and was amazed, the pc roared like a lion, the big bad designer sayed to the 3 little PC's, yes that's the way we're going to start the PC in the future, and they all lived happily since. Gerard Pacific Coast Netherlands Gerard Diepeveen, pcn@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------- PCN-USA98 tour, for more info go to: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pcn-usa98.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:44:32 -0700 "PC800: kickstart" (Oct 1, 10:37pm) To: Gerard Diepeveen , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: kickstart BARTENDER!!! CUT THAT MAN OFF!!! ;) Ramin On Oct 1, 10:37pm, Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > Subject: PC800: kickstart > Kickstart or not kickstart that's the question. > > There ones we're 3 little PC's and a big bad designer > > The first little PC says to the designer, my pc has a little pulling cord, > the big bad designer pulled the cord but the pc broke into pieces. > The second little PC says to the designer, my pc has a kickstarter, the big > bad designer placed his foot on the kickstarter and the pc was destroyed. > The third little PC says to the designer, my pc has a little starter > button, the big bad designer pushed the button and was amazed, the pc > roared like a lion, the big bad designer sayed to the 3 little PC's, yes > that's the way we're going to start the PC in the future, and they all > lived happily since. > > Gerard > Pacific Coast Netherlands > Gerard Diepeveen, pcn@dsv.nl > Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > PCN-USA98 tour, for more info go to: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pcn-usa98.htm > -------------------------------------------------------------- > visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: > http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Gerard Diepeveen -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout35.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA24385 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:52:47 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kickstart PC Hey, Juan: In a message dated 97-10-01 13:52:40 EDT, you write: << Ummm... no, I actually had my snowmachine in mind, but come to think of it, a 22" blade _would_ fit underneath the PC. Hmmm... 3 minute lawn mowing, that means more time for riding! Wahoo! :-) Anyone know who sells turf saver tires in PC sizes? >> Isn't it a bit early for the fever up there? You are starting to scare us down here. :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 17:03:24 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Cabin fever At 19:52 10/1/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hey, Juan: ><< Ummm... no, I actually had my snowmachine in mind, but come to think of >>it, >>a 22" blade _would_ fit underneath the PC. Hmmm... 3 minute lawn mowing, >>that means more time for riding! Wahoo! :-) Anyone know who sells turf >>saver tires in PC sizes? >> >Isn't it a bit early for the fever up there? You are starting to scare us >down here. :) JT, Snow is in the forecast for this weekend, and once it starts snowing in the interior (of Alaska), it is here to stay until next spring. So... you be the judge (sigh) :-( "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Douglas Ford" , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:35:34 -0700 I have noticed that reports on pc800s rarely mention horse power, but "Cycle", June '90 reports 51.10 b.h.p., although "Cycle World", October '93 claims 47.6. But what do they know anyway. Spencer ---------- > From: Douglas Ford > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: Raw horsies > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 6:57 PM > > Anyone know what the bph is for the PC? The manual doesn't specify. > > Doug > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:55:47 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Oct 97 01:54:27 UT From: "Tony Morgano" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: trunk shock Does anyone know of a suitable replacement for the trunk shock other than Honda. Do any car parts fit that might be less expensive? Mine is starting to leak.Thanks Tony -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WvT19114; Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:11:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: deselms@royal.net Cc: rahardy@juno.com, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Punctuation From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:11:40 EDT Boy did I start something. HAHAHAHA Ouch! Who kicked me? On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:10:46 -0700 "Gregg L. DesElms" writes: >Richard A Hardy wrote: >> >> the question mark should be outside the quotes > >Not according to the AP Style Manual, if memory serves. > >Gregg DesElms >deselms@royal.net >'89 PC800 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WvU19114; Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:11:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: deere@linknet.net Cc: deselms@royal.net, AJDOBBS@aol.com, STBURNUM@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:11:40 EDT Yes he is gone. Thank heavens! hahahaha.... Hey! Who kicked me? On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:31:30 -0500 Steve Wilson writes: >Did Greg just remove himself from the list accidentally by including >"the >words" in his message? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id W{Y19114; Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:15:32 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rednorton@classic.msn.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: trunk shock From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:15:32 EDT Take it off and take it to a discount auto parts. The ones for my 91 Honda Accord wagon were so costly I lost consciousness. I tried JC Whitney and other parts places around here and no go. But if you take it to someplace it might match up and you will save a fortune. Then when you find the right one and I hope you do, please post it on this net. Thanx red. On Thu, 2 Oct 97 01:54:27 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: >Does anyone know of a suitable replacement for the trunk shock other >than >Honda. Do any car parts fit that might be less expensive? Mine is >starting to >leak.Thanks > Tony > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 21:33:14 -0500 From: Steve Wilson To: Rocky E Rocheux Cc: deselms@royal.net, AJDOBBS@aol.com, STBURNUM@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: remove I sure hope so. I hate it when that anal retention problem reaches overload and oozes out the fingers. Soooo tacky. Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > Yes he is gone. Thank heavens! hahahaha.... Hey! Who kicked me? > On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:31:30 -0500 Steve Wilson > writes: > >Did Greg just remove himself from the list accidentally by including > >"the > >words" in his message? > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA10984 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 22:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 22:34:52 -0400 (EDT) To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Cost to repair PC In a message dated 97-10-01 00:12:23 EDT, you write: << << My Honda Dealer just called with an estimate to fix the bike to the point where it is safe to ride (no plastic replacement from them) Cost $3200. >> Wow! If the damage other than cosmetic is to the front end, what do they have to replace that costs so much? >> I don't know. They called and told my wife the estimate. Havent had a chance to ask them, but it includes labor. I think its a bunch of little things everywhere. Mike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA05180 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:19:08 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Search for a new steed... Now that my 90 PC is "totaled", I've started looking for another. Don't want to spend so much ( I feel bad enough having to spend $ on another bike when I just bought the 90 back in March!). A friend has a neighbor with a 85 Yamaha Maxum 1100 hes selling for about $1200. Don't know much about this bike- anyone? Also just spotted a 89 PC with 24K mi, asking $3400, but owner was willing to consider $3000. Said its good condition, no accidents, one drop, garaged and covered. Reason for selling- He said he weighs 149 and the PC is too big for him to handle. Anyways, seems like a good deal. Will check it out on Sat. Is this a good price for the 89 with 24k miles? Mike Stockton, Ca -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout30.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA22768 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:29:21 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: "The Great Printer Mystery" Hi Y'all! I want to print some of these beautiful PC pictures but my HP DeskJet 660Cse just makes a black band. It prints other color stuff just fine and the printer self-test is normal. It prints from DOS normally which proves that the cable is OK. Any thoughts on why I can't print PC and other internet pix? This is pretty far off topic so if you have a thought about it, might be best to write me privately. jfmoemd@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:16:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave DeLang To: "Gregg L. DesElms" Cc: Rocky E Rocheux , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Punctuation On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > > > Remember that an apostrophe is for possession or contractions only. > > If you have two Hondas for sale it is not two Honda's. I see alot of ads > > by Harley dealers selling Harley's. Wrong, they are selling Harleys. > > > > Unless, of course, the guy selling the bike is named Harley. Then you'd > be buying Harley's Harley. And if he were selling more than one bike, > you'd be buying Harley's Harleys. Unless, of course, they were Hondas. > Then you'd be buying Harley's hardly Harleys. (Hey... it could happen!) > > > > If you refer to an electrical system or electrical systems as > > "electrics," you do not need the apostrophe between the c & s at the end > > of the word. > > > > Unless, of course, you began referring to the entire electrical system > as "the electric" (as a means of shorthand, which, admittedly would make > you really odd, but just to make this point...) and then you wished to > refer to a given part of the electrical system, in which case it would > be "the electric's [whatever part]." > > > > If I want to say "I would not" I can combine 'would' and 'not' into a > > contraction and leave out the letter o, replacing it with an apostrophe, > > coming up with "wouldn't". > > > > Thank you. Yours for good grammar, punctuation and spelling. > > > Rocky, you neglected to explain using the apostrophe to pluralize a > possessive as in "the riders' helmets." And what about pluralizing an > abbreviation? Is it ever correct to use an apostrophe that way? For > example, is it "I saw a bunch of PC's" or "I saw a bunch of PCs?" And > then there's the use of the apostrophe at the beginning of (essentially > contracted) years, like in '89 to mean 1989, or at the beginning of > words to indicate slang or vernacular (as in 'gonna to mean "going > to"). And, finally, let's not forget that the utilitarian little > apostrophe can be used as a graphical element as well. See if you can > spot it in: > > ______ ______ _ > | _ \ | ___| | > | | \ | ___ ____| |_ | |_ __ __ ____ > | | | |/ _ \| __| _| | | '_ | _ \| __| > | |_ / | __/|__ | |___| | | | | | |__ | > |______ / \___||____|______|_|_| |_| |_|____| > > > (NOTE: The above is best viewed using a fixed-pitch font like Courier.) > > Yes, boys and girls, the handy little apostrophe really *is* our > friend. Use it well and use it often, but, darn it, use it correctly! > (After all, we wouldn't want 'dem guys over on 'da Harley's list 'tuh > think we're a bunch 'a 'danged illiterate's, eh?) > > Next week, don't miss our riveting discussion of the Subjunctive Tense > and how it can be used not only as an interesting and remarkable part of > speech, but also as a convenient little tool whenever you don't happen > to have a screwdriver handy. See you all then! > > (Geez, what's this list coming to? You can't even get a good grammar > lesson around here any more!) > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Let's not forget the its/it's conundrum! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary J. Kissinger" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 Windscreen Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:38:33 -0700 Does anyone out there know the # for Clearview Shields? They were about to market a shield for the PC800. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Brown To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Newly Subscribed Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 15:56:13 -0700 Hello All, My Name is Tom Brown Location: Vista, CA Email: tom@islanddata.com I am thinking about buying a used (29000 miles) 1989 PC800 (white) The bike has a backrest added on to the passenger seat and has a fog light dimmer addon. It does need new tires as well. Any information you all can give me to aid me in my purchase would be appreciated. Thanks tom ========================================== Thomas J. Brown Island Data Corp. 16776 Bernardo Center Drive Ste. 203 San Diego, CA 92128 (619) 487-9335 www.islanddata.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:50:07 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: PC800: Newly Subscribed Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:41:01 -0400 Tom, Welcome to the PC list.The only serious problem with the 1989 PC that has been mentioned on this quite frequently is stator failure. Seems that there was a design flaw with the stator on the 89 that was corrected on the 1990. Has the stator been replaced? Cost to replace is around $500. Other than that, the 89 is fine. Vince in Fort Myers, FL with a 1990 > I am thinking about buying a used (29000 miles) 1989 PC800 (white) > The bike has a backrest added on to the passenger seat and has a fog light dimmer addon. > Any information you all can give me to aid me in my purchase would be appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 16:14:11 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Newly Subscribed At 19:41 10/2/97 -0400, you wrote: >Tom, Welcome to the PC list.The only serious problem with the 1989 PC...is stator failure. Yes, welcome. Also check the inside surface of the left side of the trunk. On some '89 models (or those that had the wrong size tire installed) the trie rubbed a hole in the trunk liner. If it has the tall Hondaline windshield, check for melted areas on the dash. They look like cigarrete burns. Long story, well documented on the archives. >... and has a fog light dimmer addon. What is this? Just a dimmer, or is a set of fog lamps with a switch? Just curious. Enjoy! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Hello again pc true believers Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:14:23 -0700 Renewed Greetings, Life's been busy so I've been off the list for a while, but for those of you who have the time and patience for a brief trip report, I just got back from a good one. This was a 4Ker in eleven days. My Beemer worshipping friend and I left Modesto, Ca. Sept 5th. Our goal was to catch a Ferry out of Port Hardy, British Columbia which would board at 6:00 a.m. Sept 9th. We took two days to reach the Canadian border. Once we crossed it, our first order of business was to get this strange looking currency out of the ATM machine. Once that was done, we took the Ferry to Vancouver Island and did the required tours of Butchart Garden and Victoria. Victoria reminds me of my years in Europe, but our stay was short-lived since our goal was nearly 300 miles northwest on the other side of Vancouver Island, Port Hardy. The key to our trip was catching the Ferry. It only goes every other day, and requires advanced reservations. We couldn't miss it. The next morning, after the hotel wake up call and three alarm clocks joined in chorus at 5:00 a.m., we hurriedly packed our steeds, and arrived at the ferry terminal before the crowd (actually before anyone). We would be the only motorcycles among around 300 vehicles. We strapped the bikes down on the deck, and gave our hind quarters a days break while enjoying the Inland Passage. The Ferry provided live entertainment, movies, several restaurants and even a private cabin. We were able to clean up a bit so nobody could tell we weren't fellow cagers. We arrived at Prince Rupert at 11:00 p.m. that night. Now our goal was to cross British Columbia to eventually tour the IceFields Parkway that stretches from Jasper to Banff in Alberta. 'Icefields' isn't a name that's usually included in a sentence with motorcycles, but this has to be one of the most incredible experiences a rider can have. (Although I found out that winter begins there in about mid September). We toured a glacier (in a light blizzard), took a tram to the top of the world, and had incredible French Onion Soup at Lake Louise. The Canadians were great. Not a word said about the wires hanging from my coat and gloves. After we crossed back into U.S. territory, we scaled the 'Going to the Sun Highway' in Glacier National Park (Montana). This is also a must do. Almost as rewarding as the trip, was the electrical failures and shock leaks which happened to my Beemer loving companion's K1100LT. I always got better mileage ( ½ gal/tank) and he had to add oil twice (the pc never needed it). At one point, he even said under his breath, "I'll bet you're glad you have a Honda. (the pc was flawless) >From this trip, I learned that electric vests are as vital as gas, a radar detector pays for the trip (or the next one), make sure your clothing can keep you completely dry (especially feet and hands), and synthetic clothes can be washed in the sink and dry over night, saving laundry stops. Spencer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/970903) via SMTP id WAA12549; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:33:36 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Douglas Ford'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:17:58 -0400 You probably meant bhp for brake horsepower, right? I think it's 57. Also, there is a wheel dyno chart displayed on the Dutch Website. The stock PC generated 46 horsepower at the rear wheel at 6700 rpm. Torque was nearly flat from 2,000 to 6,000 rpm at around 54 Newton-meters. The engine doesn't make much more than noise after 7,000 rpm. This is very obvious at the top end. In top gear my '95 pulls strongly up to around 100 mph (around 6,700 rpm) then just sort of peters out. It tops out at around the advertised 105 but will cruise comfortably at 85 and still have power to pass. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Douglas Ford [SMTP:dford@tidalwave.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 9:57 PM To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Raw horsies Anyone know what the bph is for the PC? The manual doesn't specify. Doug -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/970903) via SMTP id WAA12553; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:33:40 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Fireman Joe'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Taillight assy... Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:27:14 -0400 Joe B wrote: >I parked in the direct sunlight and applied the brakes >and walked 50' behind the bike Joe, you must have very long arms! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA04445 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:15:09 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hello again pc true believers Hi Spencer: Welcome back. Sounds like a great trip. Thanks for the report. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout27.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA06342 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:18:05 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newly Subscribed Hi all: First of all, welcome to the list, Tom. Others have already told you of potential problems with the '89. They are few. The bike is a sound design, a lot of fun, a great tour-sporter (as opposed to sport-tourer) and still a bit ahead of its time. In a message dated 97-10-02 19:51:52 EDT, Vince writes: << Has the stator been replaced? Cost to replace is around $500. Other than that, the 89 is fine. >> Speaking of '89s and stator failure, here's the status of mine. The dealer quoted $247 for the stator, $11 for the left-cover gasket, and $89 to install it (a total of $347 + tax). Since no special tools are required for this job, I decided to do it myself. I had the stator rewound ($115 + tax + $25 for express shipping both ways), and I ordered the gasket from the dealer. The stator is back, but I'm still waiting on the gasket ( Hmmm? Apparently I wasted the extra bucks for express shipping). It took me about 4 hours to get the stator out following the service-manual procedures along a slow learning curve. Hopefully, it will take me a lot less time to put it all back together again now that I more-or-less know the way. While I've got the bike undressed and while I'm waiting for the gasket, I'm going to install the Progressive Suspension front springs that I bought last year and lube the speedo drive (per a recent thread). I'll let you know when I get her back on the road (probably sometime next week). Take care, JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XfY23710; Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:25:42 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:14:52 -0700 Subject: PC800: PMS Already? From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Considering the decidedly non-motorcycling direction a few of the current threads have taken..... We've certainly been hit with some definitely more Nov/Dec-type storms here in Pratland, so the Stealth has not been as active lately, but am I the only one who's wondering: Has PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome) gone and struck early this year? Or are we all afflicted with a case of the sillies? Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XfP23710; Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:25:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:01:14 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Electrics..thoughts..... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:50:41 -0700 "Gregg L. DesElms" writes: >How 'bout one of those little bicycle generators with the cool little wheel that lays >against the tire. That would work. And it would look neat, too. ;-) > >(Does anyone say "neat" anymore?) And then... and then I'm gonna get some wooden clothespins and playing cards and hook 'em onto the front calipter cover and make neat-o motorcycle sounds on the front wheel spokes! :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XgA23710; Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:25:42 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:22:54 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Search for a new steed... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:19:08 -0400 (EDT) MVerVelde@aol.com writes: >Also just spotted a 89 PC with 24K mi, asking $3400, but owner was willing to >consider $3000. Said its good condition, no accidents, one drop, garaged and >covered. Reason for selling- He said he weighs 149 and the PC is too big for him >to handle. Anyways, seems like a good deal. Will check it out on Sat. Is this a good price for the 89 with 24k miles? I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Search for a new steed... From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 02 Oct 1997 22:44:02 -0500 Lines: 9 >>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: TBM> I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer TBM> that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... Jeez, all of you heavyweights. I weigh 130 with my boots on. I'm 5'9" and never have any trouble handling the thing. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Lynelle70@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA13267 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:58:56 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gas fumes We have two Pc's, an 89 and 90. My wifes 90 has just started to have a smell of gas that seems to come up from around the filler neck area. I traded gas caps with my 89, but that didn't change the problem. I haven't taken anything apart yet to see if I can locate the problem. No noticeable dripping anywhere under the bikes or any other problem. Has anyone experienced anthing similar? Respond to Lynelle70@AOL.COM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 00:17:03 -0400 To: From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Hello again pc true believers Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Spencer wrote: >Renewed Greetings, > >Life's been busy so I've been off the list for a while, but for those of >you who have the time and patience for a brief trip report, I just got back >from a good one. This was a 4Ker in eleven days. > Excellent trip report Spencer! I have been to BC a few times, but never to travel to the interior. I was always there on business, either in Vancouver or Victoria. I enjoyed following your route on my Road Atlas. It looks like it was quite the trip! Out of curiousity, how costly was the ferry? thanks fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. <971001231849_1857064026@emout19.mail.aol.com> <19971002.202553.13366.12.timmacy@juno.com> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 00:24:31 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Search for a new steed... >>>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: > >TBM> I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer >TBM> that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... > >Jeez, all of you heavyweights. I weigh 130 with my boots on. I'm 5'9" and >never have any trouble handling the thing. > > - J< >-- Wow...155 and 130. Am I the only one here who starts with a 2 ? Actually, I was once 126, when I was 6 feet tall (and about 3 inches thick!). In those days I drove a Kawasaki KZ1000 Mark II. Now I carry more weight (about 90!) . When I had the Kawasaki, I was tall and thin, and so was my bike. Now I have a PC, which carries its weight lower down, like I do now! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ALJ23710; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 00:24:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:24:19 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Gas fumes From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Lynelle70@aol.com writes: >We have two Pc's, an 89 and 90. My wifes 90 has just started to have a smell of gas >that seems to come up from around the filler neck area. I traded gas caps with my >89, but that didn't change the problem. I haven't taken anything apart yet to see if I >can locate the problem. No noticeable dripping anywhere under the bikes or any >other problem. Has anyone experienced anthing similar? I think I mentioned last week in my post about putting the Stealth back together that I had noticed a bit of gas on the side of the carbs. I've also been smelling gas for a while too. I always thought it was due to the inevitable minor spills that come from filling the bike at the pump (especially when I'm using a pump with that damned accordian on the nozzle). I, too, would be interested in other's comments about this. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 00:48:07 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 00:48:13 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newly Subscribed Juan A. Goula wrote: > > On some '89 models (or those that had the wrong size tire installed) the > tire rubbed a hole in the trunk liner. > On *all* '89 models. And it has nothing to do with the tire. The trunk liner on *all* '89 models is too wide on the left side by about 1/4 inch. Some tires make the problem more obvious more quickly than others. And putting a helmet in the left side will sometimes bring it to the surface as well. The fix is to retrofit '89s with '90 (or later) liners. Honda did this for me for free about 6 mos. after I bought mine (when I placed a helmet in the left side and then rode 70 miles to a client). The tire wore a semi-circular hole right through the liner and about 1/6th-inch into the helmet. (They split the cost of the helmet with me, but I had to raise holy hell to get 'em to do it.) Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Gas fumes From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 Oct 1997 00:39:05 -0500 Lines: 17 >>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: TBM> I've also been smelling gas for a while too. I always thought it was TBM> due to the inevitable minor spills that come from filling the bike at TBM> the pump (especially when I'm using a pump with that damned accordian TBM> on the nozzle). I, too, would be interested in other's comments about TBM> this. There's a whole huge bunch of stuff in the archives about this. At least in a couple of cases the problem was determined to be in the diaphragm in the automated fuel petcock. Just search for 'petcock' in the archives [1]; you'll get a pile of relevant hits. - J< 1) That's for those who haven't bookmarked it yet. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newly Subscribed Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:23:12 GMT >From "Gregg L. DesElms" Fri, 03 Oct 1997 00:48:13 -0700 See my comments in/after your email. - ]Monty[ "Juan A. Goula wrote: "> "> On some '89 models (or those that had the wrong size tire installed) the "> tire rubbed a hole in the trunk liner. "> " "On *all* '89 models. And it has nothing to do with the tire. The trunk "liner on *all* '89 models is too wide on the left side by about 1/4 "inch. Some tires make the problem more obvious more quickly than "others. And putting a helmet in the left side will sometimes bring it "to the surface as well. The fix is to retrofit '89s with '90 (or later) "liners. Honda did this for me for free about 6 mos. after I bought mine "(when I placed a helmet in the left side and then rode 70 miles to a "client). The tire wore a semi-circular hole right through the liner and "about 1/6th-inch into the helmet. (They split the cost of the helmet "with me, but I had to raise holy hell to get 'em to do it.) " "Gregg DesElms "deselms@royal.net "'89 PC800 Is this true for ALL '89 PCs? I have an '89 and haven't noticed (or heard) any tire rubbing. I have a Dunlop K177 on the rear. I thought it was because the factory put a K555 on the rear. TIA ]Monty[ '89 PC 'Sailor Moon' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA27401 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:27:57 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PMS Already? IT'S EL NINO! IT'S EL NINO! WE'RE ALL DOOMED! REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! The preceding message has been brought to you by the IBJRR (The International Brotherhood of Journalists for Responsible Reporting). Direct all inquiries to our membership coordinator, I. B. Runningamok. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: a test Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:32:50 +0100 this is a test of a mail server I call to can find this e-mail adres so don't pay any atention to this mail. Thanks -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:38:54 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: trunk rubbing <3.0.2.32.19971002161411.006b775c@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> <3434A33D.E4A@royal.net> At 16:23 10/3/97 GMT, you wrote: >"> On some '89 models (or those that had the wrong size tire installed) the >"> tire rubbed a hole in the trunk liner. >"> >" >"On *all* '89 models. And it has nothing to do with the tire. The trunk >"liner on *all* '89 models is too wide on the left side by about 1/4 >"inch. Some tires make the problem more obvious more quickly than >"others. > >Is this true for ALL '89 PCs? I have an '89 and haven't >noticed (or heard) any tire rubbing. I have a Dunlop K177 on >the rear. I thought it was because the factory put a K555 on >the rear. No, I don't think 100% of the 89 model year was affected. Cory had about 35K miles before he sold his and he never had any trouble. And, if I remember correctly, he used all three choices of rear tire on his PC. (K555, K177 and ML2) I also do not recall Joannie Pennick (another HSTA member) mentioning any problems on _either_ of her two 89s. (I could be mistaken on this one though). Must have been variance during assembly that saved a few from the trunk rubbing syndrome. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:31:51 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:45:27 -0400 From: JAN DEROOS To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1989 PC 800 - 25,000 miles, run Dunlop K177's, no rubbing, no hole, 1989 PC 800 - 25,000 miles, run Dunlop K177's, no rubbing, no hole, no problem. Jan deRoos - 1989 PC 800 "Moby" >>> "Juan A. Goula" 10/03/97 12:38pm >>> At 16:23 10/3/97 GMT, you wrote: >"> On some '89 models (or those that had the wrong size tire installed) the >"> tire rubbed a hole in the trunk liner. >"> >" >"On *all* '89 models. And it has nothing to do with the tire. The trunk >"liner on *all* '89 models is too wide on the left side by about 1/4 >"inch. Some tires make the problem more obvious more quickly than >"others. > >Is this true for ALL '89 PCs? I have an '89 and haven't >noticed (or heard) any tire rubbing. I have a Dunlop K177 on >the rear. I thought it was because the factory put a K555 on >the rear. No, I don't think 100% of the 89 model year was affected. Cory had about 35K miles before he sold his and he never had any trouble. And, if I remember correctly, he used all three choices of rear tire on his PC. (K555, K177 and ML2) I also do not recall Joannie Pennick (another HSTA member) mentioning any problems on _either_ of her two 89s. (I could be mistaken on this one though). Must have been variance during assembly that saved a few from the trunk rubbing syndrome. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:48:33 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Kickstart PC At 19:22 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote: >On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:48:09 -0800 "Juan A. Goula" >>Oh really? Your PC must have been a prototype, 'cause mine has a >pullcord, just aft >of the electrophoretic condenser. The designers >didn't want any metal showing >outside of the plastic panels, you see... >Juan? Oh, Juan... >That's your lawnmower, Juan. Lawnmower!? Hmmm... let me check here. Lesseee... It has only two wheels, and it is red (my mower is silver), has a headlight, has a front intake... Oh crap! It is my snowblower! Sorry folks, too many internal combustion devices in the garage! :-) Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:56:00 -0700 "PC800: Re: Search for a new steed..." (Oct 2, 10:44pm) To: Jason L Tibbitts III , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Search for a new steed... HEY!! Just because I weigh 235lbs doesn't mean you have to call me names! ;) Heavy-weight indeed! Harumph! ;) Ramin On Oct 2, 10:44pm, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Subject: PC800: Re: Search for a new steed... > >>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: > > TBM> I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer > TBM> that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... > > Jeez, all of you heavyweights. I weigh 130 with my boots on. I'm 5'9" and > never have any trouble handling the thing. > > - J< > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Jason L Tibbitts III -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:41:32 -0700 "RE: PC800: Raw horsies" (Oct 2, 10:17pm) To: Jim Randall , "'Douglas Ford'" Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Cc: "'PC800 List'" Question to those here assembled: Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm just a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). Ramin On Oct 2, 10:17pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies > You probably meant bhp for brake horsepower, right? I think it's 57. Also, there is a > wheel dyno chart displayed on the Dutch Website. The stock PC generated 46 > horsepower at the rear wheel at 6700 rpm. Torque was nearly flat from 2,000 to > 6,000 rpm at around 54 Newton-meters. The engine doesn't make much more than > noise after 7,000 rpm. This is very obvious at the top end. In top gear my '95 pulls > strongly up to around 100 mph (around 6,700 rpm) then just sort of peters out. It > tops out at around the advertised 105 but will cruise comfortably at 85 and still have > power to pass. > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. horsies" (Oct 2, 10:17pm) <01BCCF82.79514A80@pm4-7.tricon.net> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:09:22 -0400 To: "Ramin Keyvan" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ramin wrote: >Question to those here assembled: > >Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm just >a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine >how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! > >Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). > >Ramin > That's a great idea Ramin. I'm not sure if everybody here thinks they need it though. People like you and I would certainly welcome it (I'm 220, your 235?) but those 150 pounders on this list are getting to drive a much sportier PC800 than we'll ever see ! Maybe I could lose 70 pounds or so and see what the PC feels like to alot of the guys on this list. Some of those guys can probably pack enough stuff for a 5 day road trip, and still not weigh in at what we do just commuting to work and back! Oh well.....maybe I'll install a canister of Nitrous in the trunk, and hook it up to a handlebar switch. Now that would be fun, especially when you pull up at the light next to an ST1100. Okay, so I rambled a bit.... bye for now... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. "RE: PC800: Raw horsies" (Oct 2, 10:17pm) <01BCCF82.79514A80@pm4-7.tricon.net> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:39:57 -0700 To: Francois Saint Laurent From: Erin Dolin Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Ramin wrote: > >>Question to those here assembled: >> >>Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm >>just >>a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine >>how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! >> >>Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). >> >>Ramin >> > >That's a great idea Ramin. > >I'm not sure if everybody here thinks they need it though. People like you >and I would certainly welcome it (I'm 220, your 235?) but those 150 >pounders on this list are getting to drive a much sportier PC800 than we'll >ever see ! Maybe I could lose 70 pounds or so and see what the PC feels >like to alot of the guys on this list. Some of those guys can probably pack >enough stuff for a 5 day road trip, and still not weigh in at what we do >just commuting to work and back! > >Oh well.....maybe I'll install a canister of Nitrous in the trunk, and hook >it up to a handlebar switch. Now that would be fun, especially when you >pull up at the light next to an ST1100. > >Okay, so I rambled a bit.... > >bye for now... > >fsl > Okay, okay. Enough already Ramin. Considering that I'm the one in the family with the PC (which is just fine the way it is thank you very much), shouldn't you ask MY persmission to do modifications to MY bike? Or is it because we're going to be married soon and Calfilornia is a community property state so you're claiming the bottom half of the motorcycle as yours? Inquiring minds want to know. If you and Francois manage to do mods to the bikes and leave your respective ends of the continent at the same time, which state do you think the head on collision will occur in? Erin (why am I marrying this maniac?) Dolin %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Dolin Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:42:16 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Raw horsies At 11:41 10/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >Question to those here assembled: > >Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm just >a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine >how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! Sure, you can buy one right now. It is called a VTR1000 SuperHawk :-) Seriously though, to get 100 hp out of the PC you would literally have to _double_ the horsepower. That means, at the very least, chucking the hydraulic lifters and getting solid ones. Can you see yourself undressing the PC every 3-5K miles to check the valves? Not for me, thanks! Then of course you probably need, as you stated, hotter cams, ported and shaved heads, high compression pistons. You would have to completely redesign the intake and exhaust systems (from scratch). Then you probably want to strenghten the crank and clutch, and perhaps increase the flow capacity of oil, water and fuel pumps. Oh, and be prepared to refuel every 90 miles or so, just like a lowly Sportster :-) We've mentioned before about the possibility of dropping a Shadow 1100 engine in the PC chassis, but to my knowledge no one has done it (yet). Good mental exercise though! >Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). What was that about cabin fever affecting ME? :-D Later! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:13:01 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:13:06 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: trunk rubbing <3.0.2.32.19971002161411.006b775c@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> <3434A33D.E4A@royal.net> <3.0.2.32.19971003083854.006bda90@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> Juan A. Goula wrote: > > Must have been variance during assembly that saved a few from the trunk > rubbing syndrome. > If any '89s did not suffer from the problem, this is the only possible explanation based on what I was told by Honda at the time I got *my* trunk liner replaced. I distinctly remember being told then that it had affected the entire model year. But, who knows, perhaps someone figured it out before the last couple of thousand or so '89s were produced and those bikes were spared, as you suggest. If so, then I stand corrected. But one of my intentions with the posting was to make sure that no one was under the misimpression that the problem was in any way tire-related. So perhaps this would have been a better way for me to have said it in light of what you've said: If an '89 PC has a tire rubbing problem on the inside left trunk liner, it is not because of the tire (so long as whatever tire mounted on the bike is one intended for use on a PC and so long as it's mounted correctly). It is positively because the trunk liner is a tiny bit too wide on the left side and said liner needs to be replaced with a '90 or newer trunk liner. There. That oughta do it! Were '89s not so long in the tooth, one might be able to get it done for free. At the time, I certainly got mine done for free. But these days, Honda is taking a "the '89s are too old for us to give away anything on them any more" kind of attitude. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:28:49 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: trunk rubbing <3.0.2.32.19971002161411.006b775c@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> <3434A33D.E4A@royal.net> <3.0.2.32.19971003083854.006bda90@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> At 18:13 10/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >Juan A. Goula wrote: > >> Must have been variance during assembly that saved a few from the trunk >> rubbing syndrome. > >If any '89s did not suffer from the problem, this is the only possible >explanation based on what I was told by Honda at the time I got *my* >trunk liner replaced. I distinctly remember being told then that it had >affected the entire model year. But, who knows, perhaps someone figured >it out before the last couple of thousand or so '89s were produced and >those bikes were spared, as you suggest. Gregg, This would be an interesting study to relieve any latent PMS. How about it guys and gals? Submit your serial number and state wether you have a trunk liner problem or not (1989 model year only please). That way we can determine if the problem went away at the end of the production run, or it was just random. Have a good weekend everyone! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by tricon.net (8.6.10/970903) via SMTP id TAA02651; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:33:01 -0400 envelope-from (jrandall@tricon.net) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Ramin Keyvan'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:27:29 -0400 Ramin, over the years I've messed around with modified auto engines in various states of tune. About the only performance modification that doesn't result in 1) more maintenance 2) decreased reliability and 3) decreased longevity is larger displacement. This would be difficult on the PC unless the jugs, pistons and heads from some of it's cousins (other narrow V-twins in this engine family) or maybe the entire engine might fit. It would be EXPENSIVE though. IMHO, if you really want a faster motorcycle, you'd be better off to trade the PC on something designed from scratch for more performance. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ramin Keyvan [SMTP:ramin@tibco.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 1997 2:42 PM To: Jim Randall; 'Douglas Ford' Cc: 'PC800 List' Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Question to those here assembled: Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm just a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). Ramin On Oct 2, 10:17pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies > You probably meant bhp for brake horsepower, right? I think it's 57. Also, there is a > wheel dyno chart displayed on the Dutch Website. The stock PC generated 46 > horsepower at the rear wheel at 6700 rpm. Torque was nearly flat from 2,000 to > 6,000 rpm at around 54 Newton-meters. The engine doesn't make much more than > noise after 7,000 rpm. This is very obvious at the top end. In top gear my '95 pulls > strongly up to around 100 mph (around 6,700 rpm) then just sort of peters out. It > tops out at around the advertised 105 but will cruise comfortably at 85 and still have > power to pass. > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Rick Fisher'" , PC800 messages Subject: RE: PC800: carb clean out. rebalancing necessary? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:30:45 -0700 Whoa Rick, haven't see your name in a while. I'd recommend balancing the carbs. The process is simple enough and a tools will pay for itself the first time you use it. ($40). It's logical that "clean" carbs would behave differently than dirty once and therefore require some adjustment. BTW: Still haven't mounted that replacement front ML2 tire you sent me. I've been riding my ST too much to wear out the existing front tire on the PC. Probably sometime this winter. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rick Fisher [SMTP:dentman@idt.net] Sent: Monday, September 29, 1997 6:02 PM To: PC800 messages Subject: PC800: carb clean out. rebalancing necessary? Well my 95 had boogers in the carb and now that they cleaned them out it doesn't run the same at low speeds. How low well traffic putting slow 20- 25. Should they have balanced them after cleaning? Rick Fisher dentman@idt.net ************************************************************************ *** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 1992 750SX Jet Ski 1997 Enforcer Team XP gas powered R/C boat 1994 Male human terror (aka Alex) 19xx Female human? "Da BOSS" various mammals arf meow etc. ************************************************************************ *** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TVS07959; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 19:39:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: zzeek@gte.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:06:50 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Windscreen From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) Here ya' go: Clearview Shields (800) 798-6089 P.O. Box 747 59113 Hwy 285 Bailey, CO. 80421 Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and the L.A. Lakers. Southern California, what a great place to live!!! On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:38:33 -0700 "Gary J. Kissinger" writes: >Does anyone out there know the # for Clearview Shields? They were >about to >market a shield for the PC800. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:40:25 -0700 "RE: PC800: Raw horsies" (Oct 3, 7:27pm) To: Jim Randall , "'Ramin Keyvan'" Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Cc: "'PC800 List'" Jim, As Erin said, this is her bike and she likes it just the way it is. I was just curious. I ride my Kawi Concours if I want zipadee-doo-dah ;). But it's a cute mental exercise anyway. Cheers, Ramin On Oct 3, 7:27pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies > Ramin, over the years I've messed around with modified auto engines in > various states of tune. About the only performance modification that doesn't > result in 1) more maintenance 2) decreased reliability and 3) decreased > longevity is larger displacement. This would be difficult on the PC unless > the jugs, pistons and heads from some of it's cousins (other narrow V-twins > in this engine family) or maybe the entire engine might fit. It would be > EXPENSIVE though. IMHO, if you really want a faster motorcycle, you'd be > better off to trade the PC on something designed from scratch for more > performance. > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ramin Keyvan [SMTP:ramin@tibco.com] > Sent: Friday, October 03, 1997 2:42 PM > To: Jim Randall; 'Douglas Ford' > Cc: 'PC800 List' > Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies > > Question to those here assembled: > > Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe I'm just > a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you immagine > how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear wheel?! > > Just the curious musings of a sick mind ;). > > Ramin > > On Oct 2, 10:17pm, Jim Randall wrote: > > Subject: RE: PC800: Raw horsies > > You probably meant bhp for brake horsepower, right? I think it's 57. Also, > there is a > > wheel dyno chart displayed on the Dutch Website. The stock PC generated 46 > > horsepower at the rear wheel at 6700 rpm. Torque was nearly flat from 2,000 > to > > 6,000 rpm at around 54 Newton-meters. The engine doesn't make much more than > > noise after 7,000 rpm. This is very obvious at the top end. In top gear my > '95 pulls > > strongly up to around 100 mph (around 6,700 rpm) then just sort of peters > out. It > > tops out at around the advertised 105 but will cruise comfortably at 85 and > still have > > power to pass. > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | > |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | > |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | > |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | > |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | > ------------------------------------------------------ >-- End of excerpt from Jim Randall -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:50:49 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:43:24 -0400 Juan, My 1985 VT1100C Shadow only put out 58 hp at the rear wheel after many different jets changes and adding a after market exhaust. Vince ---------- > > We've mentioned before about the possibility of dropping a Shadow 1100 > engine in the PC chassis, but to my knowledge no one has done it (yet). > Good mental exercise though! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:28:14 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Raw horsies At 19:43 10/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >Juan, My 1985 VT1100C Shadow only put out 58 hp at the rear wheel after >many different jets changes and adding a after market exhaust. Vince Well, ok, let us say that the average PC produces 48 hp at the rear wheel. Installing that VT1100 engine would mean an increase of approx. 21%! No small potatoes, sez I! I suspect the increase in torque would be equally significant. I would say the larger engine weigh, what, 20 lbs more at most? Talk about increased "squirt" power. With just that, downshifting for a pass would become truly optional, with little risk of compromising the reliability of the engine. Now the drivetrain, who knows, maybe it can take the extra HP with no problem. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:34:36 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Raw horsies At 17:23 10/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >> At 11:41 10/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >Question to those here assembled: >> > >> >Has anyone come out with hotter cams, bore kit,etc. for the PC? Maybe >>I'm just a speed freak (or maybe I'm just a freak! Who knows? ;)) but can you >immagine>how much fun a PC would be that could pump out 100 hp to the rear >wheel?! > >Sure, you can buy one right now. It is called an ST1100!!! But Jay, if you did that, you'd stop being one of the 'True Believers', a V-Twin Worshiper. ;-) Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:40:02 -0700 "PC800: Raw horsies" (Oct 3, 4:34pm) To: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies On Oct 3, 4:34pm, Juan A. Goula wrote: > Subject: PC800: Raw horsies > > But Jay, if you did that, you'd stop being one of the 'True Believers', a > V-Twin Worshiper. ;-) > You know I feel a group hug coming on here! I say we all join hands and sing Kumbaya! Light some incense at the foot of the all knowing Tourque God V-Twinus! Amen! ;) Ramin ;) -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 01:02:43 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Raw joke, press delete if easily affended Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:54:41 -0400 > > >>BAKED BEANS > > >> > > >>Once upon a time, there lived a man who had a terrible passion for > > baked > > >>beans. He loved them, but they always had an embarrassing and > > somewhat > > >>lively reaction on him. One day he met a girl and fell in love. When > > it was > > >>apparent that they would marry, he thought to himself, She'll never > > go > > >>through with the marriage with me carrying on like this, so he made > > the > > >>supreme sacrifice and gave up beans. Shortly after that they were > > married. > > >> > > >>A few months later, on the way home from work, his car broke down > > and since > > >>they lived in the country, he called his wife and told her that he > > would be > > >>late because he had to walk. On his way home, he passed a small cafe > > and > > >>the wonderful aroma of baked beans overwhelmed him. Since he still > > had > > >>several miles to walk he figured he could walk off any ill affects > > before > > >>he got home. So he went in and ordered, and before leaving had three > > extra > > >>large helpings of baked beans. All the way home he putt-putted. He > > >>putt-putted down one hill and putt-putted up the next. By the time > > he > > >>arrive home he felt reasonably safe. > > >> > > >>His wife met him at the door and seemed somewhat excited. She > > exclaimed, > > >>Darling, I have the most wonderful surprise for you for dinner > > tonight!. > > >>She put a blindfold on him, and led him to his chair at the head of > > the > > >>table and made him promise not to peek. At this point he was > > beginning to > > >>feel another one coming on. Just as his wife was about to remove the > > > > >>blindfold, the telephone rang. She again made him promise not to > > peek until > > >>she returned, and she went to answer the phone. > > >> > > >>While she was gone, he seized the opportunity. He shifted his weight > > to one > > >>leg and let go. It was not only loud, but ripe as a rotten egg. He > > had a > > >>hard time breathing, so he felt for his napkin and fanned the air > > about > > >>him. He had just started to feel better, when another urge came on. > > He > > >>raised his leg and rriiipppp!. It sounded like a diesel engine > > revving, and > > >>smelled worse. To keep from gagging, he tried fanning his arms a > > while, > > >>hoping the smell would dissipate. Things had just about returned to > > normal > > >>when he felt another urge coming. He shifted his weight to his other > > leg > > >>and let go. This was a real blue ribbon winner; the windows shook, > > the > > >>dishes on the table rattled and a minute later the flowers on the > > table > > >>were dead. While keeping an ear tuned in on the conversation in the > > >>hallway, and keeping his promise of staying blindfolded, he carried > > on like > > >>this for the next ten minutes, farting and then fanning each time > > with his > > >>napkin. > > >> > > >>When he heard the phone farewells (indicating the end of his > > loneliness and > > >>freedom) he neatly laid his napkin on his lap and folded his hands > > on top > > >>of it. Smiling contentedly, he was the picture of innocence when his > > wife > > >>walked in. > > >> > > >>Apologizing for taking so long, she asked if he had peeked at the > > dinner > > >>table. After assuring her he had not peeked, she removed the > > blindfold and > > >>yelled, Surprise! > > >> > > >>To his shock and horror, there were twelve dinner guests seated > > around the > > >>table for his surprise birthday party. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 01:09:32 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:59:50 -0400 Juan, For a small fee I'll ship my Shadow up north so you can do the transplant and answer the question once and for all. Vince ---------- > Talk about increased "squirt" power. With just that, downshifting for a > pass would become truly optional, with little risk of compromising the > reliability of the engine. Now the drivetrain, who knows, maybe it can > take the extra HP with no problem. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 03 Oct 97 18:16:45 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Search for a new steed... I was thinking the same thing.....we have several small women riders here that don't seem to have that much trouble. Don't let him know about that until after you buy it off him though. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Search for a new steed... Author: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 10/2/97 8:52 PM On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:19:08 -0400 (EDT) MVerVelde@aol.com writes: >Also just spotted a 89 PC with 24K mi, asking $3400, but owner was willing to >consider $3000. Said its good condition, no accidents, one drop, garaged and >covered. Reason for selling- He said he weighs 149 and the PC is too big for him >to handle. Anyways, seems like a good deal. Will check it out on Sat. Is this a good price for the 89 with 24k miles? I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Windshield peeling? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:09:00 -0700 I just returned from a long pc800 trip. When it started to rain, I would cover my radar detector with a freezer bag which would rub up against the windshield. When I would take the bag off, I noticed a gummy like coating building up on my windshield that was hard to clean off. When I returned home, I gave it to full effort, but it wouldn't come off with any cleaner. Scraping with my fingernail removed it, but it looks as if I'm removing a coating off the back of the shield that's suppose to be there. It's a Honda standard shield, 1990 Pacific Coast. Anyone have any ideas? Am I actually removing a layer? Is there a solvent I should try? (I know many of you think this would be a great chance to change to a Rifle windshield, but I actually enjoy the stock unit.) Spencer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WdR10913; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:09:31 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:55:46 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:39:57 -0700 Erin Dolin writes: >Okay, okay. Enough already Ramin. Considering that I'm the one in the family with >the PC (which is just fine the way it is thank you very much), shouldn't you ask MY >permission to do modifications to MY bike? Or is it because we're going to be >married soon and Calfilornia is a community property state so you're claiming the >bottom half of the motorcycle as yours? Inquiring minds want to know. Go Girl! Rein that monster in now or you'll never be able to later! :-}} >If you and Francois manage to do mods to the bikes and leave your respective ends >of the continent at the same time, which state do you think the head on collision will >occur in? Uh....the State of Euphoria, maybe....? >Erin (why am I marrying this maniac?) Dolin Hmmm...for some stability in your life? Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WCZ00905; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:54:54 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:02:34 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Search for a new steed... From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) I weigh 141 and it is a piece of cake plus I barely get my tootsies on the grnd> On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:22:54 -0700 timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) writes: > >On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:19:08 -0400 (EDT) MVerVelde@aol.com writes: > >>Also just spotted a 89 PC with 24K mi, asking $3400, but owner was >willing to >consider $3000. Said its good condition, no accidents, >one drop, garaged and >covered. Reason for selling- He said he >weighs 149 and the PC is too big for him >to handle. Anyways, seems >like a good deal. Will check it out on Sat. Is this a good price for >the 89 with 24k miles? > >I weigh 155 pounds...the guy's a wuss. Don't tell him that--just infer >that he's probably right and buy the bike! It's a good deal..... > >Tim >Portland, OR >'94 PC800--62,880 Miles of Smiles > >"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." - Vice >President Dan Quayle >-- Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WDA00905; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:54:54 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:05:01 -0600 Subject: PC800: In Denver From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Am at a friend's in Denver for the wkend & fixed her up with JUNO and set up my own acct and am replying from here> Normally in Fairfax VA. G'nite all. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WDB00905; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:54:54 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Lynelle70@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:06:26 -0600 Subject: Re: PC800: Gas fumes From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Visit our archives and find something in there about this. It is a recognized prob with an easy fix. On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Lynelle70@aol.com writes: >We have two Pc's, an 89 and 90. My wifes 90 has just started to have >a smell >of gas that seems to come up from around the filler neck area. I >traded gas >caps with my 89, but that didn't change the problem. I haven't taken >anything apart yet to see if I can locate the problem. No noticeable >dripping anywhere under the bikes or any other problem. Has anyone >experienced anthing similar? Respond to Lynelle70@AOL.COM >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA29434; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:05:45 -0400 (EDT) To: wanda_bailie@smtpgw.kentrox.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: Search for a new steed... In a message dated 97-10-03 21:21:03 EDT, you write: << I was thinking the same thing.....we have several small women riders here that don't seem to have that much trouble. Don't let him know about that until after you buy it off him though. >> Yeah, figured that I did not have to make any comment about that since there was a recent thread regarding "several small women riders" who were struggling but made it after figuring out the tricks. By the way, Made a deal on the phone with that guy (as Tim Macy so fondly called "the wuss") for $3100. Will go pick it up tomorrow if it is as good as he says it is... I too tip the scales at the number starting at 2. Maybe I should pretend to struggle with that bike that is too big. May help his self esteem a bit. Glad to be back on the saddle again... Mike Stockton CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Sat, 4 Oct 1997 00:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 00:21:51 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: Slimy Crud with stop in Beloit Hello All, I'll be leaving my house, (NW side of Chicago) at apx. 7:30AM this Sunday for points North, I'm meeting up with some folks in Woodstock, then on to WI. The rally is just west of Madison, WI. A couple of hours of tire kicking, then a dash through the fields. A stop to pay our respects and offer our support for Curt, and then back to town by 7 pm at the latest... Please call 773-235-0933 if you wanna go..... TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:41:01 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: In Denver Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:31:51 -0400 I thought that Juno was in Alaska. Vince in Fort Myers FL ---------- > Am at a friend's in Denver for the wkend & fixed her up with JUNO and set > up my own acct and am replying from here> Normally in Fairfax VA. > G'nite all. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA05592 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Hi Gang! We are getting cooler weather here in Indiana now, and two days ago the temp was about 40 degrees when I left for work. I had on big puffy gloves that have in the past done a good job when working out of doors (shovelling snow, etc.) Well, I was on my way to work for just under an hour with some stop-and-go and some freeway. I noticed that my hands were starting to feel stiff. When I arrived at work and removed my gloves I found eight fingers frostbitten. The last joints were pure white! Kinda scary! I warmed 'em up under the hot water and gradually the color came back. As far as I can tell there is no lasting damage. It's time to do something different. I visited one of our local sporting goods store looking for gloves that snowmobilers might use. The prices ranged from $50 to $150 and some seemed pretty nice (none of them heated.) I know that Gerbing sells electrically-heated gloves for around $120. I understand that the good thing is that these gloves have heating wires down into the fingers (not true of some others.) My wife says that the obvious solution to the problem is to park the bike when the weather gets cool. I am hoping that some of you might have a better suggestion! And besides, I don't wanta have to start typing with two fingers - I can just barely manage it with ten! B>} John in Indy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA27389 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:38:37 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Hi Spencer: Yes, the Honda windscreens do have a coating on the back side, and it can start to peel off after a while. It is also subject to scuffing/scratching, as you and I have discovered. I don't know of anything that will fix it. If you try to polish it out, it simply makes a larger spot where there is no coating, and it remains obvious that the shield has been "damaged" in that area. I guess you could polish off the entire coating, but I haven't tried that yet. Might be a big job to get it all off. Anyone else have a solution? JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA01337 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:48:48 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Hi John: Electric gloves are nice. Other options include heated grips (Dennis Kirk has them for (I think) about $40, or full handlebar shrouds like "Hippo Hands" which Vetter used to make. The "perfect" winter set up would be heated grips and Hippo Hands. Then you could forget about your hands ever getting cold. Of course, then there are always the feet to worry about. . . . By the way, an electric vest helps a lot. By keeping the torso warm, the body doesn't shut down blood flow the the hands and feet quite so quickly. The result, they stay warmer too. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:16:45 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: Vincent Santamaria CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: In Denver Vince, no. Not this again. Please, not this again. ;) E. Vincent Santamaria wrote: > I thought that Juno was in Alaska. Vince in Fort Myers FL > > ---------- > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 13:20:25 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Jfmoemd@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Dear John, I don't know what resources are available to you in Indiana. I was able to get some excellent gauntlets at a local m/c shop. They're lined with 3m thinsulate, and have a suede strip on the index fingers for squee geeing water off the face shield. This pair has zipper pockets in the cuff. the added bulk makes for an excellent heat sail with your outerwear. They replaced a previous pair without the pockets that the paramedics cut up when my arm was run over. The price was around $40. Any leather gloves should be well oiled for moisture protection. I've wrung a glass of rain out my gloves in the past. In spite of that they kept their flexibility because of the oil. Another factor in choosing m/c gloves is that most are reinforced or armored in back to protect your hand from brush and road debris. I've used similar gloves over the years in temps down to 0F. My hands have been stiff, but the flesh was always pink and undamaged. If you do have another frostbite incident, don't use hot water. Start with room temperature and gradually increase it. The lack of feeling and circulation caused by frostbite makes the skin very vulnerable to burns, Keep warm, Alan 95 PC800 "Midnight" Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id T~O05170; Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:49:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:44:38 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: In Denver From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:31:51 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >I thought that Juno was in Alaska. Vince in Fort Myers FL > >---------- > >> Am at a friend's in Denver for the wkend & fixed her up with JUNO... Nah, Vince, Juno obviously lives in Denver. I wander how Rocky's friend's date with him was... BTW, is he kin to Bruno? Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id T~N05170; Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:49:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:41:17 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Slimy Crud with stop in Beloit From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 00:21:51 -0400 (EDT) GuntherSki@aol.com writes: >Hello All, > >I'll be leaving my house, (NW side of Chicago) at apx. 7:30AM this Sunday for points >North, I'm meeting up with some folks in Woodstock, then on to WI. The rally is just >west of Madison, WI. A couple of hours of tire kicking, then a dash through the fields. >A stop to pay our respects and offer our support for Curt, and then back to town by 7 >pm at the latest... Please call 773-235-0933 if you wanna go..... I wanna go--I wanna go! Oh...yeah...I'm 2,000 miles away. Well, have a great ride anyway! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,930 Miles of Smiles "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id T~M05170; Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:49:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:39:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: Search for a new steed... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:05:45 -0400 (EDT) MVerVelde@aol.com writes: > By the way, Made a deal on the phone with that guy (as Tim Macy so fondly called >"the wuss") for $3100. Will go pick it up tomorrow if it is as good as he says it >is... I too tip the scales at the number starting at 2. Maybe I should pretend to >struggle with that bike that is too big. May help his self esteem a bit. Hey, good deal! During that "struggle", just don't drop it in his driveway! >Glad to be back on the saddle again... Glad to be able to count you among the "elite" who know which bike is the best! (So there, Ramin! We know that you lurk on this list just 'cause you're a "closet" PCer! Watch him close, Erin...). Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,930 Miles of Smiles "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id T~P05170; Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:49:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:54:39 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Gloves for cold weather riding From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: >Well, I was on my way to work for just under an hour... When I arrived at work and >removed my gloves I found eight fingers frostbitten. The last joints were pure white! >Kinda scary! Kinda scary is right! Did those gloves have any insulation at all in them? As those on the list that were here last Spring will remember, I rode across the northern states in February...snow and temps ranging from low 30s to low 40s...on my way to Florida. All I had on were my Tourmasters with a thinsulate liner, and I didn't have any frostbite problems at all. Hands got cold, but never to the scary stage. There must not have been any insulation in the backs of those gloves to have gotten to the "white knuckle" stage. Wow... You'd better find some good gloves quickly, John, or your wife's going to take your keys away! :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--62,930 Miles of Smiles "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:36:01 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: In Denver >On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:31:51 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" > writes: >>I thought that Juno was in Alaska. Vince in Fort Myers FL >> >>---------- >> Rocky wrote: >>> Am at a friend's in Denver for the wkend & fixed her up with JUNO... > > Tim Macy wrote: > >Nah, Vince, Juno obviously lives in Denver. I wander how Rocky's friend's >date with him was... > >BTW, is he kin to Bruno? > >Tim >-- No, I don't think he is kin to Bruno, but he is a very good friend of Bullwinkle !!!! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DKGG33A@prodigy.com ( MICHAEL CURTISS) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:28:20, -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 For Sale FOR SALE 1989 Pearl White PC800. Near perfect condition. One owner, garage kept its entire life. Never been hit or dropped, everything original with backrest added. ONLY 9700 MILES! $3900 or best offer. Philadelphia area. DKGG33A@prodigy.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA13916 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:39:20 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New steed in the stable Brought home the 89 PC from the infamous wuss. (He apparently is a computer engineer in Silicon Valley...) Rides good, in good shape basically. Only disappointment was that I was obviously spoiled with my first aquistation- the 90 PC I graciously disfigured- was in showroom condition with NO scratches anywhere. This 89, I have to realize has probably gone thru the normal wear and tear cuz there are scratches and nicks here and there. (with pathetic attempts to touch them up with honda issue body paint). A couple hairline cracks. And yeah, the trunk liner obviously was one of hondas early models that has a tire hole in the left side. It has been beautified with a lovely patch of duct tape! I think I'm switching my trunk liner from the 90 to the 89. But hey, I got another PC! My honda service guy can't understand how I was able to get 2 good PC's for $3k. Its all in the eyeballs. (as compared to the wrist) Mike Stockton CA '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA03248 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:46:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Jfmoemd@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Get heated grips and a good pair of Winter riding gloves. I am able to ride down to 25 degrees. Z Chicago -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Keller" To: Jfmoemd@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:02:54 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Reply-to: green@null.net > It's time to do something different. I visited one of our local > sporting goods store looking for gloves that snowmobilers might use. > The prices ranged from $50 to $150 and some seemed pretty nice > (none of them heated.) I know that Gerbing sells > electrically-heated gloves for around $120. I understand that the > good thing is that these gloves have heating wires down into the > fingers (not true of some others.) I have the Gerbing gloves on the market about 1.5 years ago. They should be the same as that offered now. I'm pleased with them, using them throughout last winter in NE Oklahoma, attached to the GL1500 I had then. I haven't wired my '90 PC for the gloves yet. -Michael Keller [Ham: N5RDV (ex: AB5EL)] Tulsa, OK green@null.net http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5602/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA07848; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 06:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 06:05:54 -0400 (EDT) To: dford@tidalwave.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Raw horsies In a message dated 97-09-30 21:57:42 EDT, dford@tidalwave.net writes: << Anyone know what the bph is for the PC? The manual doesn't specify. >> I can't speak for HP at the crank, but at the rear wheel you can expect in the viscinity of 45-50 HP depending on the bike, its state of tune and the dynamometer used (there is a significant difference between dynamometers). It is also one of the flattest HP curves I have ever seen in a vehicle of this type (though I suspect that some of the Harleys have very flat curves too)... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: clutch disk Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:15:08 +0100 My brother has a honda CB750. His clutch was slipping so we put some new clutch disks in it and we also put one o-ring behind each clutch spring. When we had done that there was more pressure on de disks so now it isn't slipping anymore. I think this is a good idear to do with the PC800 also because the springs don't give enough pressure. I read that someone of the list put new springs in it but I think it come's back than. and if you put a ring behind them the pressure is always enough. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John J. Scalisi" To: Cc: "PC800 Mail List" Subject: PC800: Winter Riding Gloves Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:39:21 -0400 On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: >Well, I was on my way to work for just under an hour... When I arrived at work and >removed my gloves I found eight fingers Be very careful now. Once you get frost bite you are much more susceptible to get it again. You'll need more protection not to get it now. Just a word of warning. Good luck. Another good trick for cold weather riding. If you have rain covers for your gloves when riding in the rain, put them over your winter gloves. SInce they are waterproof they are also completely windproof and block out the wind chill factor almost completely. If you don't already have glove rain covers buy the largest size you can find to fit over a bulky winter riding glove. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by unknown with SMTP; 6 Oct 1997 08:00:47 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "pc club" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Finally a CARB synchro!!! Date: Sun, 05 Oct 97 11:47:48 PDT I wonder if anyone would be interested in commenting on my decision FINALLY to get the carbs synched. When I was at Vince's place last year we talked about it, and I had the intention of bringing back to Oz the TWO things I thought I would need, the tube mercury thingy and a vacuum thingy. Well I bought the vacuum thingy at Wall Mart as Vince suggested, but when it came time to pack for the long fligt home it didn't make the suitcase...still sitting at friend's place in Lakeland, Fl. In any case last week with 38 000 miles and SURE it has NEVER had a carb synch I finally stopped in at a local m/c shop and made a deal with the guy...I would remove all the bodywork and bring it in....he hooked up the vacuum gages and made one twist with the long screwdriver and that was IT!! If I remember there was a bit of a difference before the twist, one 15 the other 11. So he had said before that if it took 30 minutes he would charge $20, it took 5 minutes, and he charged $15!! He never applied any vacuum to the petcock as he said it would all be over before any need....probably correct. Of course the pc was at op. temp when I rolled in. All I really notice is a bit better idle, and a bit less vibration as roll on from low rpm, say 2800 or so. So should I wait ANOTHER 38 000 before doing it again? THIS is what I call a maintenance FREE motorcycle!!.......Ron Grant in Brisbane, Australia! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: Re: PC800: clutch disk Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:13:30 +0100 sorry, that's what I mean I thought that was the same as an o-ring. I don't no all the englisch expressions you no. I didn't no I good word for it so I o-ring was the best word I came up with. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl ---------- > Van: Rick Fisher > Aan: Jeroen van Vuure > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: clutch disk > Datum: zondag 5 oktober 1997 15:10 > > Jeroen van Vuure > I don't see how O-rings could hold up in this application. Washers, yes, > O-rings no way. > The use of washers is very common. > > >My brother has a honda CB750. His clutch was slipping so we put some new > >clutch disks in it and we also put one o-ring behind each clutch spring. > >When we had done that there was more pressure on de disks so now it isn't > >slipping anymore. I think this is a good idear to do with the PC800 also > >because > >the springs don't give enough pressure. I read that someone of the list put > >new springs in it but I think it come's back than. and if you put a ring > >behind them the pressure is always enough. > > > >Jeroen van Vuure > >Hoorn, Holland > > > >vuure@dds.nl > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > > > Rick Fisher > dentman@idt.net > > *************************************************************************** > > 1995 Honda Pacific Coast > 1992 750SX Jet Ski > 1997 Enforcer Team XP gas powered R/C boat > 1994 Male human terror (aka Alex) > 19xx Female human? "Da BOSS" > various mammals arf meow etc. > *************************************************************************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 14:44:25 -0400 From: Jason Grant To: PC800 Subject: PC800: PC Starting The last two times I went riding it took some effort to start my 94 (16.5K). First instance was a very weak battery (It had been sitting for about five days in a non-attached garage, temp was about 38 at nights). Second instance seemed there was no spark, but no struggle at all to continue trying to start. Had the choke fully open both times (it seems to require this unless it has been run within three hours). Any ideas? Thanks, Jason crazyapple@ibm.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 03:19:25 +0800 (HKT) Hi Spencer! > Yes, the Honda windscreens do have a coating on the back side, and it can > start to peel off after a while. It is also subject to scuffing/scratching, > as you and I have discovered. I don't know of anything that will fix it. If > you try to polish it out, it simply makes a larger spot where there is no > coating, and it remains obvious that the shield has been "damaged" in that > area. I guess you could polish off the entire coating, but I haven't tried > that yet. Might be a big job to get it all off. > > Anyone else have a solution? Yes they do have a hard coating on both sides, and they'll crack & peel off sooner or later, depends on how you keep it. If you wax it, spray clean it with Pledege or similar things, you'll notice the shield turned yellow after 1 year or so, then the peeling starts. That's why I always use alchohol and a link-free cloth to clean it. I bought my tall HONDALINE windshield used 28 months ago, and now it still crystal clear, only a little yellowish. But still I have to replace it, with a Rifle. As I found hairline cracks start develope at lower middle of the shield. Just collect the shield at Seattle from Dave, thanks Dave! It looks great, only the color match base is not real color match, it's solid red that close to the body color but not in candy red. DOes Rifle send me the wrong color, or they just have no candy red bases? How's yours folks? -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * executive committee, Safe Rider (HK) Association. * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: RE: Gloves for cold weather riding Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:35:13 -0500 > My wife says that the obvious solution to the problem is to park the bike > when the weather gets cool. I am hoping that some of you might have a better > suggestion! > > And besides, I don't wanta have to start typing with two fingers - I can just > barely manage it with ten! B>} > > John in Indy I use Widder electric gloves which plug into my Widder vest. Used 'em Friday and Saturday in North Carolina (from 1am to 6am) during the Tarbutt rally. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:33:26 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Jason Grant Cc: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC Starting Jason Grant wrote: > > The last two times I went riding it took some effort to start my 94 > (16.5K). First instance was a very weak battery (It had been sitting > for about five days in a non-attached garage, temp was about 38 at > nights). Second instance seemed there was no spark, but no struggle at > all to continue trying to start. Had the choke fully open both times > (it seems to require this unless it has been run within three hours). > > Any ideas? > Jason, Do you have a Battery Tender? Sounds like you may not run it for a long enough time on the road to get the battery fully charged unless it's been abused. That temp shouldn't really bother it. Did it finally start when no spark initially? That may be an indication of the quality of your gas. You don't use premium, do you? I have minor trouble when they sit for an extended period but they start well before the battery weakens. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:36:50 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: VR2XVI Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? VR2XVI wrote: > > Hi Spencer! > > > Yes, the Honda windscreens do have a coating on the back side, and it can > > start to peel off after a while. It is also subject to scuffing/scratching, > > as you and I have discovered. I don't know of anything that will fix it. If > > you try to polish it out, it simply makes a larger spot where there is no > > coating, and it remains obvious that the shield has been "damaged" in that > > area. I guess you could polish off the entire coating, but I haven't tried > > that yet. Might be a big job to get it all off. > > > > Anyone else have a solution? > > Yes they do have a hard coating on both sides, and they'll crack & peel > off sooner or later, depends on how you keep it. If you wax it, spray > clean it with Pledege or similar things, you'll notice the shield turned > yellow after 1 year or so, then the peeling starts. That's why I always > use alchohol and a link-free cloth to clean it. I bought my tall > HONDALINE windshield used 28 months ago, and now it still crystal clear, > only a little yellowish. But still I have to replace it, with a Rifle. > As I found hairline cracks start develope at lower middle of the shield. > > Just collect the shield at Seattle from Dave, thanks Dave! It looks > great, only the color match base is not real color match, it's solid red > that close to the body color but not in candy red. DOes Rifle send me > the wrong color, or they just have no candy red bases? How's yours > folks? > > -- > > ************************************************************************* > * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * > * executive committee, Safe Rider (HK) Association. * > * * > * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * > * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * > * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * > * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * > * * > * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * > * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * > * * > ************************************************************************* > * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * > ************************************************************************* > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Is it the 96/97 red? Or neither 90 nor 96/97? You are having a lot of trouble with that Rifle fairing, Philips.:) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 13:01:29 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Windshield peeling? My hondaline stock windshield is now 2 1/2 years old and not yellowed. I clean it with pledge and have since the first day. Yours may be cracking because achohol drys plastics out and they get brittle and then start cracking. Just a thought. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Author: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 10/6/97 12:21 PM Hi Spencer! > Yes, the Honda windscreens do have a coating on the back side, and it can > start to peel off after a while. It is also subject to scuffing/scratching, > as you and I have discovered. I don't know of anything that will fix it. If > you try to polish it out, it simply makes a larger spot where there is no > coating, and it remains obvious that the shield has been "damaged" in that > area. I guess you could polish off the entire coating, but I haven't tried > that yet. Might be a big job to get it all off. > > Anyone else have a solution? Yes they do have a hard coating on both sides, and they'll crack & peel off sooner or later, depends on how you keep it. If you wax it, spray clean it with Pledege or similar things, you'll notice the shield turned yellow after 1 year or so, then the peeling starts. That's why I always use alchohol and a link-free cloth to clean it. I bought my tall HONDALINE windshield used 28 months ago, and now it still crystal clear, only a little yellowish. But still I have to replace it, with a Rifle. As I found hairline cracks start develope at lower middle of the shield. Just collect the shield at Seattle from Dave, thanks Dave! It looks great, only the color match base is not real color match, it's solid red that close to the body color but not in candy red. DOes Rifle send me the wrong color, or they just have no candy red bases? How's yours folks? -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * executive committee, Safe Rider (HK) Association. * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:19:50 -0400 From: Jason Grant To: Roger_Prince@dg-webo.webo.dg.com CC: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: PC Starting I do not have a battery tender installed and it may be difficult to install one (Well, at least to use one; the garage I keep it in during the summer has no electricity and it is not near enough a house to run a cord). I should think it would be able to recharge from the drain of starting since I rarely drive it for less than three hours when I go riding. Usually I ride for seven or so. It did start after trying for about one minute of turning over (Not one minute straight; probably a few turns then a ten second pause). I use 87 octane and have always used it as has the previous owner. He was extremely meticulous in the care of the bike, so I'm sure it wasn't knowingly abused. Up until these past two times the bike has not done this. I don't know what you consider "extended period" to mean, is five or six days "extended"? Anyway, the second time it definitely started well before the battery weakened - it's just that typically it doesn't turn over more than twice before it's running. I've taken the next two days off with hopes of doing some riding, so I should be able to see if it does it again tomorrow. -Jason (who is appreciative) Roger Prince wrote: > Jason, > > Do you have a Battery Tender? Sounds like you may not run it for a > long > enough time on the road to get the battery fully charged unless it's > been abused. That temp shouldn't really bother it. > Did it finally start when no spark initially? That may be an > indication > of the quality of your gas. You don't use premium, do you? I have > minor trouble when they sit for an extended period but they start well > > before the battery weakens. > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "Wanda Bailie" , , "VR2XVI" Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: Windshield peeling? Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:16:49 -0500 Wanda Bailie writes: > My hondaline stock windshield is now 2 1/2 years old and not > yellowed. I clean it with pledge and have since the first day. > Yours may be cracking because achohol drys plastics out and they > get brittle and then start cracking. Just a thought. > Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" > Hmmm. My hondaline stock windshield is now 9 weeks old and not yellowed. I cleaned it once with Meguir's plastic cleaner #1 then put it in the plastic bag that my Rifle replacement shield (now 7 weeks old) came in. I clean the Rifle shield with whatever is handy (shop rags, water, gas station squeegies, paper towels, etc.) and it still looks great after all these miles (16,500 after the TarButt). Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:33:31 -0700 "Re: Re[2]: PC800: Search for a new steed..." (Oct 4, 3:39pm) To: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: PC800: Search for a new steed... On Oct 4, 3:39pm, Timothy B Macy wrote: > Glad to be able to count you among the "elite" who know which bike is the > best! (So there, Ramin! We know that you lurk on this list just 'cause > you're a "closet" PCer! Watch him close, Erin...). > <> Yes, but it's a right lovely closet wif all the ammenities of 'ome and oi'm vewy fond of it! It's warm and dark (very much like the dust-bin I used to live in) and 'as an absolutely gorgeous key-'ole frough which I observe, wif unmi'igated awe rand admeerashun, the marvel tha' is the 'onda PC-8'undred. **AND**...Oi'm 'oping that me luvly bride to be will allow me the 'onour of getting close enuf to bask in the PC's unearthly radiance and glow. Wif that 'aving been accomplished, Oi shall go to me grave, an 'appy and contented man wif vewy few regrets about the loif oi've led. God Save the Queen (and all that rot)! ;) ;) ;) <> I'm sorry, what did you say? ;) Ramin -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Brown To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Thanks all for the welcome and advice Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:51:17 -0700 Thanks All, Your adviced helped me make the decision to go ahead and purchase the 89 = PC800. Truth be told, I didn't need a lot of help making up my mind. Its a great bike. Seems = to be in great shape and only 29000 miles. Question is, does $2700 sound like a good deal? It feels like a good = deal! I do need a little more advice though. One thing the bike does need is = new tires and I am open for suggestions. I am about as much of a novice = to motorcycles as exists, but I do learn very quickly. I also may not have good information on the servicing of the bike and = would like suggestions on what steps I should take to put it back on a = service schedule. Again, thanks for all the advice and info, and I look forward to being = able to tell about some of my future road trips. tom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thomas J. Brown Island Data Corp. 16776 Bernardo Center Drive Ste. 203 San Diego, CA 92128 (619) 487-9335 www.islanddata.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 03:38:43 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Thanks all for the welcome and advice Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:31:15 -0400 Tom, You got a good deal,for sure. Tires: I like the Metzler ML2 on my PC but any major brand will give you good service. Maintenance: Do or have done one of the major services in your owners manual which should included oil and filter, air filter if needed, coolant change with a antifreeze without silicates, spark plugs, fork oil ( major task), carb sync, brake inspection with fluid change, hydralic clutch fluid change, rear gear oil change, rear spline lub, etc. Use motorcycle specific products for ease of mind. Again congrats and ride safe. Take good care of her and she won't let you down. Vince in Fort Myers,FL -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA03753 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:38:50 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC Starting Hi, Jason: In a message dated 97-10-06 15:36:35 EDT, Roger writes: << Do you have a Battery Tender? Sounds like you may not run it for a long enough time on the road to get the battery fully charged unless it's been abused. >> I agree with Roger. Sounds like a weak battery. If the battery is low, the bike may crank, but there won't be enough voltage left to fire the sparkplugs. I'd try to charge the battery. If it will take a full charge, then you should be good to go. If not, it may be time for a new one. Roger's question regarding the Battery Tender is a good one. If you keep the battery fully charged (with a Battery Tender) when the bike's not being ridden, then it's always ready to go when you are, and the battery will last a LOT longer. For example, my '89 and my wife's '90 are still on their original batteries. I used to be able to say the same about my '88 Hawk GT, but, alas, I just had to replace its original battery (after 9 years of faithful service). Even with a Battery Tender they won't last forever, but I figure that the one I use on the Hawk just paid for itself about three times at a minimum. Well worth the investment. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA18251 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:40:01 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Hi, All: In a message dated 97-10-06 20:36:13 EDT, Wanda writes: << Yours may be cracking because achohol drys plastics out and they get brittle and then start cracking. Just a thought. >> I don't think alcohol is the problem. Earlier this year (after 7 years with no yellowing etc.), the tall Hondaline on my '89 developed numerous tiny, internal cracks in the lower center such as those reported by Phillips Wong. I replaced the shield (which I promptly scuffed by an attempted "improvement" in the mount for the radar detector--Rats!) And I just noticed similar cracks on Diane's '90 (double Rats!!). Anyway, to get back to the point: I've used Pledge, Honda Spray Cleaner/Wax, other plastic cleaners, and good old soap and water on them, but I've never used alcohol. The design of the shield produces a lot of flexing in that area, and I think that the polycarbonate simply can't take such flexing as well as the plexiglass used on the Rifle (of course, the Rifle shield doesn't flex as much in the first place; so, it is even less likely to have fatigue problems). JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id X`F00815; Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:52:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Thanks all for the welcome and advice From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:52:49 EDT I have not yet worn out my orig eqpt tires but from what I have read about Metzelers (yes it has 3 "e"s in it) they will minimize the stress of going across a waffle surface bridge. I had them on my old new BMWs in the 60s and they were great. I would REALLLLY recommend Metzelers, Tom. On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:31:15 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >Tom, You got a good deal,for sure. >Tires: I like the Metzler ML2 on my PC but any major brand will give >you >good service. >Maintenance: Do or have done one of the major services in your owners >manual which should included oil and filter, air filter if needed, >coolant >change with a antifreeze without silicates, spark plugs, fork oil ( >major >task), carb sync, brake inspection with fluid change, hydralic clutch >fluid >change, rear gear oil change, rear spline lub, etc. Use motorcycle >specific products for ease of mind. >Again congrats and ride safe. Take good care of her and she won't let >you >down. >Vince in Fort Myers,FL > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 00:00:18 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Hi Philips Hi dude. Glad to see ya made it back home safe and sound. Rae and I had a great time sharing our evening with you and your lady. as far as the base goes, I'd send an email off to Rifle and find out. They may have sent you a color match base for the wrong red! Also...did you find the mounting screws??? -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, GSP http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:27:11 -0400 From: Kevin Olalde To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? I'll go with JT on this one. My 89's tall Hondaline just started showing these 'cracks' this year. I thought they were dirt at first, kinda hard to clean down there. I've never used achohol to clean it ko JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, All: > > In a message dated 97-10-06 20:36:13 EDT, Wanda writes: > > << Yours may be cracking because achohol drys plastics out and they > get brittle and then start cracking. Just a thought. > >> > > I don't think alcohol is the problem. > > Earlier this year (after 7 years with no yellowing etc.), the tall Hondaline > on my '89 developed numerous tiny, internal cracks in the lower center such > as those reported by Phillips Wong. I replaced the shield (which I promptly > scuffed by an attempted "improvement" in the mount for the radar > detector--Rats!) And I just noticed similar cracks on Diane's '90 (double > Rats!!). > > Anyway, to get back to the point: I've used Pledge, Honda Spray Cleaner/Wax, > other plastic cleaners, and good old soap and water on them, but I've never > used alcohol. The design of the shield produces a lot of flexing in that > area, and I think that the polycarbonate simply can't take such flexing as > well as the plexiglass used on the Rifle (of course, the Rifle shield doesn't > flex as much in the first place; so, it is even less likely to have fatigue > problems). > > JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: I just remembered why... Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:12:07 -0700 I just remembered why I keep my right hand on the front brake while getting off my PC800 :-). 1) Holding the front brake keeps the bike somewhat stable while you position youself to put it on the center stand or side stand. It's also good for hills. 2) If you just happen to forget and leave it in gear while dumping the clutch, the cycle will not lurch forward :-). Just thought I would share this safty tip :-). I almost embarrassed myself at the local gas station but I'm glad that (now by habit) my hand was on the front brake! Harrison * Harrison Spain * EDS Unigraphics GTAC - Systems Support Manager * Voice: 714-952-6114 * Fax: 714-952-5371 * Internet E-Mail: spain@edsug.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 7 Oct 1997 10:45:22 -0400 From: "Ted Gerarden" Subject: PC800: Three questions To: "PC800 list" I've been riding the '90 I purchased last month and am gaining confidence in handling the larger weight and size (from my previous Elite 250). Now that I've been at it for a little while, I have three questions and seek advice/help from you experienced riders: 1. I haven't ridden much at night, but when I have I find that the high beam setting throws the light ver far down the road, such that it appears above the road. It does well at illuminating the signs, but the road from the bike out to 150 feet or so is too dark for my liking, and the illumination on the road at a distance is too faint. On low beam, I get OK illumination on the road, but it is too close to the bike for anything other than very moderate speed. Are the beams mis-aligned, or is it operating as expected (the headlights passed Virginia inspection, but that isn't saying much when it comes to motorcycles). Would it help to have the headlight modified to oscillate at high frequency between high and low beam (I understand that this somewhat increases the visibility of the bike to oncoming traffic)? Are supplemental headlights advisable? 2. It is apparent from my schedule that I won't be able to go this fall to the MSF course and try to get in as a stand-by (they are all booked through the end of the season). One of the list members suggested to me that it might be beneficial to get a handbook from someone who has taken the course and try some of the exercises on my own to gain experience and confidence in handling. Is there someone in Northern Virginia from whom I could borrow a course book for a while (or elsewhere, I guess, by mail)? I plan to sign up for an early spring MSF course, but clearly need to work on riding skills (I have discovered that riding the Elite didn't require any skill!!). 3. I bought the '90 PC from a fellow that did his own maintenance, so I don't have any service records. The fellow said that he did routine oil changes, etc., but no heavy-duty maintenance work, and had no problems in the years he drove it. The PC now has 11,700 miles, and the tires should be replaced in next 1000 miles or so. I'm thinking about taking it in to a Honda dealer and getting the tires done now (Metzelers seem to be the most popular among the list members) and to have it checked over (I'm not big on doing the work myself). I've seen references to a couple of problems that arose from lack of lubrication--speedo cable and spline are two that I recall. Apart from oil change, radiator fluid change, lube, and tuneup, what things should I tell the Honda service guys to do to make sure that everything is up to snuff? BTW, in the past I used Coleman Powersport for service on my Elite--any comments on their service on PCs (did I get that punctuation right?) from Northern Virginia owners? Thanks for your help...... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "Ted Gerarden" , "PC800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: Three questions Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:56:02 -0500 Ted Gerarden writes: > 1. I haven't ridden much at night, but when I have I find that the high beam > setting throws the light ver far down the road, such that it appears above the > road. It does well at illuminating the signs, but the road from the bike out > to 150 feet or so is too dark for my liking, and the illumination on the road > at a distance is too faint. On low beam, I get OK illumination on the road, > but it is too close to the bike for anything other than very moderate speed. > Are the beams mis-aligned, or is it operating as expected (the headlights > passed Virginia inspection, but that isn't saying much when it comes to > motorcycles). Would it help to have the headlight modified to oscillate at > high frequency between high and low beam (I understand that this somewhat > increases the visibility of the bike to oncoming traffic)? Are supplemental > headlights advisable? Sounds like you need to adjust your headlight. There are two funky screws that you can reach from under the fairing from the front to adjust the headlight. Check your owner's manual. As for the low beam being useless, I found this out too. When the high beam is adjusted correctly, the low beam illuminates enough of the road to let you travel maybe 40 mph safely. I replaced the stock 60/55 bulb with a 100/80 bulb and MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I suggest replacing the stock bulb (once you get it aligned of course) before dropping bucks on driving lights. You can order one through J.C. Whitney, Comp. Accessories, Dennis Kirk, or your preferred local dealer for around $12. Make sure you clean the bulb with isopropyl before you install it and don't, repeat don't, touch the glass with your fingers. It'll burn out very quickly if you do; will last years if you don't. > Apart from oil > change, radiator fluid change, lube, and tuneup, what things should I tell the > Honda service guys to do to make sure that everything is up to snuff? Tell 'em exactly what you told us. The service manager will probably tell you it's unnecessary, that the PC800 is very reliable, and he's probably right. For peace of mind, though, tell 'em to check it anyway, that it'll make you feel better. They'll do it! Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 18:05:35 +0100 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Stereo set Dear friends, Today I received a message from Takashi Yoshizumi, could anyone of you please help him out. It seems that Japanese citizens can't buy these particular parts from Honda dealers in Japan? Messages could be send directly to him, or to me, if send to me I of course will forward them to him. Thanks for helping, Gerard ----------------------begin forwarded message------------------ I want to know how to get and install stereo set. In Japan, we Japanese can't buy that part from Honda Dealer. Takashi Yoshizumi email: PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp ----------------------end forwarded message-------------------- Pacific Coast Netherlands Gerard Diepeveen, pcn@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------- PCN-USA98 tour, for more info go to: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pcn-usa98.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 12:20:41 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: GuntherSki@aol.com Cc: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800: Ticking noises > In a message dated 7/1/97, you write: > > Just my $.02 but, I just returned from STAR ( A Honda Sport Touring Assoc. > event... e-mail me if you want more details on this great group). I live in > Chicago and rode out to Eufala, OK ( 100 miles east of Oklahoma City) and > then continued on to Taos, NM (site of next years rally) north through the > Rockies, through South Dakota (yes I went to Sturgis) all on the PC in 10 > days ( coverd 3900 miles) The above was to establish my credentials. While at > aformentioned STAR I test rode a VFR (thanks Cory), a BlackBird XX, a VTR, a > CBR 600 and an ST. The VFR is absolutely a contendor for an every day bike. > The seating position is not very erect and the bag issue exists but for one > up SPORT touring, one could make a case for the VFR. Good power, great > suspension and handles very well. I'm not trading the PC however. The bike > ran great for the entire trip. However, fully loaded, two up, at 85 + mph for > extended stretches through the Rockies at 5,000 to 12,000 feet, I heard a > ticking like valve train noise comin' from the motor. The noise would go away > after about 10 seconds at idle. 92 Octane fuel seemed to help but not > eliminate the noise. Any ideas??? > > Z Howdy, Did you ever come up with any explanations about your ticking noise? My '95 seems to have acquired this "sewing machine" ticking under similar conditions. Just started recently. I don't hear the sounds at high speed but they are audible if I rev the engine a bit from idle, not too noisy at idle. Goes away in a short period of time. Engine off and on seems to work also. I need to gather more data about it. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 07:53:05 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: PC800 Mail List Subject: [Fwd: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling?] --------------67A43B32B93 Philips forgot the cc. I still don't know what his "red" matches. --------------67A43B32B93 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? To: Roger_Prince@dg-webo Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:47:06 +0800 (HKT) Hi Roger! > Is it the 96/97 red? Or neither 90 nor 96/97? You are having a lot of > trouble with that Rifle fairing, Philips.:) Haha, that's right, lots of troubles. But it's in my hands finally. And besides some parts ordering also got screwed up. But that just impracticable to return them from Hong Kong, as the postage will be extreme high, and I can't control all these from another side of the Pacific Ocean. So I just leave it, or maybe repaint it if I really hate that red color, I have some paints ordered from ColorRite. So, that just no point to bother with some happened things that I can't change, and let it drive my emotion down. Think the bright side: This trip to US is just great! Get together with SF Bay Area listers, had Maxican food and chat until 11pm; met Dave at Seattle, enjoy Greek food from his cheerful girlfriend and chat in another evening until 1130pm; ride-along with Royal Canadian Mount Police traffic officers and worked out some operations in another afternoon; drive round trip between San Francisco & Vancouver BC and made 3000+ miles on odo, went thro' CA, OR and WA, tired but interesting, aren't these good? I would like to restart the matching paint thread. 2 things: 1. I ordered the "real" 2 process '90 Candy Red paint from ColorRite, not cheap, 1/2 pint of base coat & 1 pint of top coat, clear coat not included, at the cost of $97 with S&H included. Will report how good these urethane paints after spray them on. 2. I found another source of matching paints in Newark of SF Bay Area by the day before I left the country. The guy told me that they do motorcycle paints and able to mix 2 process paints. I went there but they closed by 15:00 on Saturday afternoon. Check that out, interested listers: Color Factory, 4050E Peralta Blvd, Newark. The place is located about 200 feet from the junction of Thorton Ave. I was informed the price is about half of what ColorRite asking. Good luck! -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, Colonial Special Constabulary Medal * * executive committee, Safe Rider (HK) Association. * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Hong Kong '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * 101177 <-- GWRRA CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* --------------67A43B32B93-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: "Spain, Harrison" cc: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: I just remembered why... On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Spain, Harrison wrote: > I just remembered why I keep my right hand on the front brake while > getting off my PC800 :-). > > 1) Holding the front brake keeps the bike somewhat stable while you > position youself to put it on the center stand or side stand. It's > also good for hills. > > 2) If you just happen to forget and leave it in gear while dumping the > clutch, the cycle will not lurch forward :-). > > Just thought I would share this safty tip :-). I almost embarrassed > myself at the local gas station but I'm glad that (now by habit) my > hand was on the front brake! > > Harrison > > * Harrison Spain > * EDS Unigraphics GTAC - Systems Support Manager > * Voice: 714-952-6114 > * Fax: 714-952-5371 > * Internet E-Mail: spain@edsug.com > Harrison, You've just pointed out why we teach students in MSF Motorcycle Safety courses to squeeze the front hand brake lever when mounting and dismounting the bike. Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:07:46 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 18:08:54 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Gerard Diepeveen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp Subject: Re: PC800: Stereo set Gerald, If it's a PC for which your Japanese friend wishes to obtain a stereo, he's probably out of luck. That product, originally OEMed by Honda from Kenwood, was discontinued some time ago. If you can still get them from dealers in the Netherlands, then you're in a better position to help your friend than those of us in the states. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -------------------------- REPLY SEPARATOR ------------------------ Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Today I received a message from Takashi Yoshizumi, could anyone of you > please help him out. > It seems that Japanese citizens can't buy these particular parts from Honda > dealers in Japan? > Messages could be send directly to him, or to me, if send to me I of course > will forward them to him. > Thanks for helping, > Gerard > > ----------------------begin forwarded message------------------ > > I want to know how to get and install stereo set. > In Japan, we Japanese can't buy that part from Honda Dealer. > > Takashi Yoshizumi > email: PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp > ----------------------end forwarded message-------------------- > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Misumi, Fred" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Electrical current draw ... Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:35:15 -0700 Driving down from Seattle to California's Bay Area this weekend was one miserably wet & cold adventure! At one of the fueling stations, I had to use the station's electricity to power my hair dryer so that I could change the colors of my hands from blue to at least a pink color. With that being done, the attendant recommended that I stop by the local ski shop for a poly- fiber under-glove mitten ... which proved to be mighty useful. At the shop, I was shown a pair of $135 gloves that come up the the elbows ... so I put that thought in the back of my mind to later do some research. One of the GL sites I've visited is devoted to marketing a specific line of heated clothing which I'm looking at right now: $129 Heated Vest with collar 33 watts $075 Heated chaps 33 watts $079 Heated gloves 20 watts ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- $283 Total 86 watts http://www.chromeworld.com/widder.html Can the Pacific Coast handle this type of electric load by itself? Fred Misumi Systems Development FMisumi@SedgwickRe.BRKR.com x2940 x3822 (fax) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:44:55 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Man's best friend Weather here in WI is awesome. Mid to high 80's most every day when typically our highs are in the mid 60's at this time of the year. Have been commuting to work each day possible and while coming home today saw an interesting sight. I spotted a bike ahead pulling an unusual trailer. The closer I got to it the more the trailer looked like a dog house. Much to my surprise, it was!!! Caught up to the wing with trailer at a stop sign and almost lost it when a dog stuck its head out of the side of the house. The couple riding had apparently built the trailer with a dog house on it so they could travel with their hound. Hound looked like he/she enjoyed the ride too. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Misumi, Fred'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Electrical current draw ... Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:35:29 -0700 <> Absolutely. I've run a similar setup riding 2-up (grips, vest x2, chaps x2) plus a few other electrical accessories like a CB, intercom, and 80/100w headlight. You're PC will be fine provided you don't let it idle for too long with a full load like this. Electrics will certainly extend your riding season and keep you smiling when the weather gets crappy. The colder and wetter it gets, the higher I turn up the thermostat! If your worried about running down your battery, I'd recommend a voltmeter or a warning LED (red/amber/green depending on voltage). Once your volts drop below 13.2 you're consuming battery power. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Misumi, Fred" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Electrical current draw ... Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:45:45 -0400 I use the WIDDER system....I have the Vest/collar, and gloves.... plus my 90 PC has one of the few radios out there.... I haven't had a problem YET..... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 21:56:28 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: deselms@royal.net CC: Gerard Diepeveen , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp Subject: Re: PC800: Stereo set Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > Gerald, > > If it's a PC for which your Japanese friend wishes to obtain a stereo, > he's probably out of luck. That product, originally OEMed by Honda from > Kenwood, was discontinued some time ago. If you can still get them from > dealers in the Netherlands, then you're in a better position to help > your friend than those of us in the states. > > Gregg DesElms > deselms@royal.net > '89 PC800 > > -------------------------- REPLY SEPARATOR ------------------------ > Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Today I received a message from Takashi Yoshizumi, could anyone of you > > please help him out. > > It seems that Japanese citizens can't buy these particular parts from Honda > > dealers in Japan? > > Messages could be send directly to him, or to me, if send to me I of course > > will forward them to him. > > Thanks for helping, > > Gerard > > > > ----------------------begin forwarded message------------------ > > > > I want to know how to get and install stereo set. > > In Japan, we Japanese can't buy that part from Honda Dealer. > > > > Takashi Yoshizumi > > email: PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp > > ----------------------end forwarded message-------------------- > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Ditto the US comments for Canada....Obsolete & 0 stock. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Ted Gerarden'" , PC800 list Subject: RE: PC800: Three questions Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:46:31 -0700 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Ted Gerarden [SMTP:t.gerarden@dcwm.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 7:45 AM To: PC800 list Subject: PC800: Three questions <> Hey me too! I rode an Elite 250 before I finally got a true motorcycle, my '89 PC800. <<1. Are the beams mis-aligned, or is it operating as expected (the headlights passed Virginia inspection, but that isn't saying much when it comes to motorcycles). Would it help to have the headlight modified to oscillate at high frequency between high and low beam (I understand that this somewhat increases the visibility of the bike to oncoming traffic)? Are supplemental headlights advisable?>> Ditto what Bob Ray said. The headlight is aimed too hight (so was mine) and an 80/100w bulb improves nightvision significantly. A headlight modulator would be a safety hazard once it got dark. Aux lighting is always a bonus but be careful as there aren't that many extra watts for lights PLUS other accessories (heated grips, electric clothing, etc). Start with a brighter bulb and go from there. <<2. It is apparent from my schedule that I won't be able to go this fall to the MSF course and try to get in as a stand-by (they are all booked through the end of the season). >> My recommendation is call the MSF people back and see if you can show up for a class and replace someone who fails to show, sorta like flying standby on an airline. I'd bet they'd be happy to accommodate you as they'd be filling an otherwise unused class space. It's recommended practice here in the Seattle area MSF courses. Enjoy your new ride! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Thomas Brown'" , "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Thanks all for the welcome and advice Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:00:27 -0700 -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Thomas Brown [SMTP:tom@islanddata.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 1997 5:51 PM To: 'PC800 Mailing List' Subject: PC800: Thanks all for the welcome and advice <> If it's the bike you want and you've got the money - it's a good deal. Besides, that's a good price. I do need a little more advice though. One thing the bike does need is new tires and I am open for suggestions. I am about as much of a novice to motorcycles as exists, but I do learn very quickly. Tires preferences, like religion, is an individual choise. My opinion: Metlzer ML2 for sportier and wet weather grip. Dunlop K177 or K155 for longer wear (20%?) and lower cost. I also may not have good information on the servicing of the bike and would like suggestions on what steps I should take to put it back on a service schedule. Personally, I'd do it all. Fluid changes don't require much skill or specialized tools so it's a prime spot to save a little money. These include brake/clutch fluid (you'll really feel a difference), oil, final drive oil, and coolent (don't forget the reservoir under the right dash pocket cover). Carb Synch and tune-up will cost a bit at the dealer but can probably wait till the next recommended period unless you notice rough running and/or MPG down in the 30's (please everyone, let's not start a mileage thread...) If your like wrenching yourself, buy a carb-synching tool and it will pay for itself the first time you use it. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: FW: KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE DRIVERS LICENSE (fwd) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:34:11 -0400 ---------- > From: hallbh@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU > Subject: FW: KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE DRIVERS LICENSE (fwd) > Date: Saturday, 04 October, 1997 11:08 PM > > > > > > > >> > STATE OF KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE > > >> > DRIVERS LICENSE APPLICATION > > >> > > > >> > Last name: _________________ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > First name: > > >> > (Check appropriate box) > > >> > > > >> > [_] Billy-Bob [_] Bobby-Sue > > >> > [_] Billy-Joe [_] Bobby-Jo > > >> > [_] Billy-Ray [_] Bobby-Ann > > >> > [_] Billy-Sue [_] Bobby-Lee > > >> > [_] Billy-Mae [_] Bobby-Ellen > > >> > [_] Billy-Jack [_] Bobby-Beth Ann Sue > > >> > > > >> > Age: ______ (if unsure, guess) > > >> > > > >> > Sex: _____M_____F_____Not sure > > >> > > > >> > Shoe Size: _____Left_____Right > > >> > > > >> > Occupation: > > >> > [_] Farmer [_] Mechanic > > >> > [_] Hair Dresser [_] Waitress > > >> > [_] Unemployed [_] Dirty Politician > > >> > > > >> > Spouse's Name___________________________ > > >> > 2nd Spouse's Name: __________________ > > >> > 3rd Spouse's Name: __________________ > > >> > > > >> > Lover's Name: __________________________ > > >> > 2nd Lover's Name: ____________________ > > >> > > > >> > Relationship to spouse: > > >> > [_] Sister [_] Aunt > > >> > [_] Brother [_] Uncle > > >> > [_] Mother [_] Son > > >> > [_] Father [_] Daughter > > >> > [_] Cousin [_] Pet > > >> > > > >> > Number of children living in household: _____ > > >> > Number of children living in shed: _____ > > >> > Number that are yours: _____ > > >> > > > >> > Mother's Name: ___________________ > > >> > Father's Name: ___________________ (If not sure, leave > > >> blank) > > >> > Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) > > >> > > > >> > Do you [_] own or [_] rent your mobile home? > > >> > > > >> > ___ Total number of vehicles that you own > > >> > ___ Number of vehicles that still crank > > >> > ___ Number of vehicles in front yard > > >> > ___ Number of vehicles in back yard > > >> > ___ Number of vehicles on cement blocks > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Where your firearms are kept: > > >> > [_] truck [_] kitchen > > >> > [_] bedroom [_] bathroom > > >> > [_] shed > > >> > > > >> > Model and year of your pickup: _______ 194_ > > >> > Do you have a gun rack? > > >> > [_] Yes [_] No; if no, please explain: > > >> > ________________________ > > >> > Newspapers/magazines you subscribe to: > > >> > [_] National Enquirer [_] The Globe > > >> > [_] TV Guide [_] Soap Opera Digest > > >> > [_] Rifle and Shotgun > > >> > > > >> > ___ Number of times you've seen a UFO > > >> > ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis > > >> > ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis in a UFO > > >> > > > >> > How often do you bathe: > > >> > [_] Weekly > > >> > [_] Monthly > > >> > [_] Not applicable > > >> > > > >> > Color of teeth: > > >> > [_] Yellow [_] Brownish-Yellow > > >> > [_] Brown [_] Black > > >> > [_] N/A ___ How many? > > >> > > > >> > Brand of chewing tobacco you prefer: [_] Red-Man > > >> > > > >> > How far is your home from a paved road? > > >> > [_] 1 mile > > >> > [_] 2 miles > > >> > [_] don't know > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> . > > >> > > > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: FW: KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE DRIVERS LICENSE (fwd) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:33:15 -0500 > > First name: > > (Check appropriate box) > > > > [_] Billy-Bob [_] Bobby-Sue > > [_] Billy-Joe [_] Bobby-Jo > > [_] Billy-Ray [_] Bobby-Ann > > [_] Billy-Sue [_] Bobby-Lee > > [_] Billy-Mae [_] Bobby-Ellen > > [_] Billy-Jack [_] Bobby-Beth Ann Sue > > WHAT???? No Bobby-Ray??? Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:38:17 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? On my 89 that I just bought, there is a crack on the left outside part of the mirror housing. I've looked in the Archives for the last 3 months and am not sure... I come before you masters, humbly, with a question... Some recommended using JB Weld to repair plastic cracks, another said to order the part (housing, not the whole mirror). Another used superglue. Nobody (thank goodness) recommended used bubble gum yet. Any suggestions here? Thanks in advance Mike Ver Velde 89 PC Stockton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:43:27 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Replace Trunk Liner The 89PC I just bought has duct tape covering a hole in the trunk liner made by tire rubbing... Since I still have my totaled 90 PC to use as salvage parts, Anyone know if the Trunk Liner in the 90 will fit in the 89 with ease? Thought I'd ask before disassembling the whole trunk only to find it doesnt fit! Mike Ver Velde 89 PC Stockton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:24:54 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:26:13 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: MVerVelde@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Replace Trunk Liner MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: > > The 89PC I just bought has duct tape covering a hole in the trunk liner made > by tire rubbing... Since I still have my totaled 90 PC to use as salvage > parts, Anyone know if the Trunk Liner in the 90 will fit in the 89 with ease? > Thought I'd ask before disassembling the whole trunk only to find it doesnt > fit! > Yes, the '90 liner fits with no modifications. In fact, as discussed on this list just a few days ago, retrofitting the '90 liner into '89s was the official Honda "fix" for the tire rubbing problem. The liner in my '89 is froma '90. Go for it. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:27:22 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:28:42 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: MVerVelde@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: > > On my 89 that I just bought, there is a crack on the left outside part of the > mirror housing. I've looked in the Archives for the last 3 months and am not > sure... I come before you masters, humbly, with a question... Some > recommended using JB Weld to repair plastic cracks, another said to order the > part (housing, not the whole mirror). Another used superglue. Nobody (thank > goodness) recommended used bubble gum yet. Any suggestions here? > In my mind, the PC is as much about appearance as it is about riding. Those who say they only like the PC because of the way it rides are the same guys who say they only read Playboy for the articles. This being the case, I would purchase the replacement part. It's obviously more expensive, but it keep the bike looking as good as it rides. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout37.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA26999 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:37:25 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Three questions Hi, Ted: In a message dated 97-10-08 04:08:07 EDT, Bryce writes: << My recommendation is call the MSF people back and see if you can show up for a class and replace someone who fails to show, sorta like flying standby on an airline.>> Ted, that's good advice from Bryce. The only caveat I'd put on it is that many programs already use an overbooking/alternate system with their course registrations as a hedge against the "no-show" problem. If that is the case, then you will have less of a chance of getting into a course, but it still might be worth a try. Call them and see what they say. Another option: If you live anywhere near a state border, check out courses in the adjacent state. Another option: Check out the availability of an Experienced RiderCourse (ERC) this fall. The ERC teaches the same skills and techniques as those you would get in the basic course, and--depending on your scooter experience and "natural abilities"--it may suit your needs just fine. The early exercises on the practice range are designed to identify those who really should attend the basic course first; so, you wouldn't be asked to try anything you aren't prepared to do. And it would have the advantage of your being able to practice on your own bike rather than on the small machines they use in most of the courses for new or inexperienced riders. I applaud your intent to attend a training course. If you simply can't get into one this fall, then get on the list as soon as they have an opening. It is time and money well spent, and the earlier you spend it the better. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:38:10 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: MVerVelde@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? Hi Mike, I used 2 part epoxy putty on a crack in one of my panels with excellent results. It bonds well, and reinforces the surrounding plastic. Eric MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: > On my 89 that I just bought, there is a crack on the left outside part of the > mirror housing. I've looked in the Archives for the last 3 months and am not > sure... I come before you masters, humbly, with a question... Some > recommended using JB Weld to repair plastic cracks, another said to order the > part (housing, not the whole mirror). Another used superglue. Nobody (thank > goodness) recommended used bubble gum yet. Any suggestions here? > > Thanks in advance > > Mike Ver Velde > 89 PC > Stockton, CA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id V`E25645; Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:12:41 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: MVerVelde@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:12:41 EDT Superglue is no good because it weakens or does something else bad when wet. I tried MAT7 and was not impressed. I will try it again bcuz mebbe I did something wrong. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id V`A25645; Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:12:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: halmm@idirect.com Cc: deselms@royal.net, pcn@dsv.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, PAN00654@pas.mei.co.jp Subject: Re: PC800: Stereo set From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:12:40 EDT I am the kind of guy who goes into angst at the slightest provocation and if you are here is an attack of angst; last year I asked my Indian dlr who is also a Honda dlr in Etters PA near Harrisburg if she had a radio kit for the PC and she had sent one back to the factory 2 weeks before that. We did a "critical search" and it evidently had been sucked up like ice on a hot day. Oh dear Lord help me stop suffering over that. The Rock On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 21:56:28 -0400 Hal MacDonald writes: >Gregg L. DesElms wrote: >> >> Gerald, >> >> If it's a PC for which your Japanese friend wishes to obtain a >stereo, >> he's probably out of luck. That product, originally OEMed by Honda >from >> Kenwood, was discontinued some time ago. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:20:55 -0700 From: Monty Montreal To: rocheux@juno.com CC: indian@dorje.com, indian@starklite.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 700 motorcycle related phone numbers I found a place on the web that has 700 motorcycle related phone numbers. It is http://his.com/~harris/shops.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA24873 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:32:45 -0400 (EDT) To: MVerVelde@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? If it's already broke you surely can't get hurt much if you try to fix it! if that doesn't work THEN get a new one. I vote for AB Weld with a patch on the back side. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:37:49 -0400 (EDT) To: FMisumi@sedgwickre.brkr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Electrical current draw ... One thing, I understand that the Widder gloves are wired in series, which means you six volts to each glove. Gerbings are parallel so each glove gets twelve volts. I think the Gerbins are a little warmer. Widders are more bulky. Widders cost less. Widder does not make any socks but Gerbing does. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA11826; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:52:29 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:48:33 -0700 To: "Ted Gerarden" From: Greg Chambers Subject: Re: PC800: Three questions Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ted - As for question number 2, the MSF manual, I would suggest the following: The MSF publishes the "Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Guide to Motorcycling Excellence", which is the complete MSF reference. The course manual is a *very* abbreviated presentation of a few of the items from this book. I ordered it from www.amazon.com for around $20 a couple months before getting into the MSF class, and there was *no* new information in the MSF classroom. Of course, the riding skills section of the MSF course was new and is well worth the time and money, but the MSF book "Motorcycling Excellence" is superb. Greg Chambers At 10:45 AM 10/7/97 -0400, you wrote: >2. It is apparent from my schedule that I won't be able to go this fall to >the MSF course and try to get in as a stand-by (they are all booked through >the end of the season). One of the list members suggested to me that it might >be beneficial to get a handbook from someone who has taken the course and try >some of the exercises on my own to gain experience and confidence in handling. > Is there someone in Northern Virginia from whom I could borrow a course book >for a while (or elsewhere, I guess, by mail)? I plan to sign up for an early >spring MSF course, but clearly need to work on riding skills (I have >discovered that riding the Elite didn't require any skill!!). > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA18119 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:22:41 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:22:41 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: Re: Georgia Coast Fall Ride For the Southeastern riders, I am reposting this message with the details of the HSTA Fall Ride down at Jekyll Island GA. When I called the Ramada, they said the block of rooms had all been taken, but they had more rooms and they still honored the $47 rate. There are some campgrounds available as well. > >The event this year is Fri-Sun Oct 17-18-19. It's at the Jekyll Ramada INN. Rooms are $47 a night (2 yrs >ago I got them for $40) . The Sat night meal is right next to the ritzy >Jekyll Island CLub. It is at a restaurant at the JIC dock called Lat 31 >degrees. They have a good varied menu of 5 choices for our night. The Jekyll Ramada is 1-800-835-2110 or >(912) 635-2111. Usually I'll be at the hotel after 1pm on fri. I bring some gumbo and chili and rice and drinks and we can relax around the pool >area till most of the riders get in. Then Fri night people go to St Simons >or Brunswick or around Jekyll in little groups to shop and eat. Sat morn they go >out on rides. I've got to find a loop to ride that's interesting for the >Sat ride. two yrs ago the sand gnats were fierce. Last yr I did the thing >in Nov. it was colder and there was no gnats. But it's a good location to >get the fla-ga-ms-la-sc-tn riders together. That's what's fun. I even >emailed his mooseness. Bye, Randy Ashurst. > Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Misumi, Fred" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Left turn signal lense: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:31:32 -0700 Anybody got a spare left rear turn signal lense handy? The local Honda shop can order it for $35, so I'm checking here to see if anybody has one for about half of that + shipping? Frederic K. Misumi Systems Development FMisumi@SedgwickRe.BRKR.com 2940 3822 (fax) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA20397 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:45:48 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:45:48 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: GA Mountains Trip Report I have been traveling extensively the last month including some weekends and the PC had been sadly neglected. Saturday was filled with the honey-do list of chores of which several were completed (but several more made their way onto the list). Saturday night Deb asked what the plans were for Sunday. I told her the weather was too beautiful to let another day go by without going for a ride. After an early church, we came home and saddled up. Air temp was about 76o and the sky was almost a solid blue. After a couple of delays and a stop at the gas station to fill the trusty PC up, we were off. What a beautiful day! Cut across some back roads up to GA 400 and it looked like half of Atlanta had the same idea we did to head for the mountains. Traffic was heavy and moving about 70mph on the limited access road. Up past Lake Lanier and we noted how much they had already drained the lake. It seemed a little early this year, but may have been due to a combination of the two week drought and then the flash floods. A lot of leaves have fallen, but the leaves of the oak trees are still a deep green. I suspect it will be another three weeks before the leaves reach their peak. Traffic thinned a little and I could relax and enjoy the view a little. Our Chatterbox units continue to work very well with our full faced helmets, even with the face shield cracked and going 70+. GA 400 ended and we noted there is a little shop just before 400 ends that is trying to cater to the motorcycle crowd. We didn't stop to see what the draw was, but did notice about 10 bikes parked out front. We will save that for the next ride up. Off 400 and up Long Branch road. It was amazing to have the temperature difference of at least 15o between the sunshine and the shady valley road. On up 52/115 towards Cleveland. It is the middle of the apple harvest and every town in North GA is having or getting ready to have their fall festival. Bring on those funnel cakes! We traversed the town square in Cleveland and headed up to Helen. Took Hwy 17 just before getting into the traffic of Helen and then 255A up to Batesville and our intended destination, the Batesville General Store. A small country store that really is a restaurant serving breakfast and lunch. Since it was about 1:30, we passed on breakfast and had a nice sandwich. If you haven't eaten here, check it out the next time. Nothing special, but food quality is excellent, very inexpensive and you can't ask for a more laid back environment. If you make it for breakfast, you have to try their cinnamon buns. They are out of this world. (P.S. I have no financial stake in this place, it is just that good!) After lunch, we headed north a mile on 197 and then took 356 back towards Helen. Traffic was very light and this is a very scenic road. Rode by Unicoi State Park and they have about finished the work on the dam and new road. I suspect they will close the dam gates and have the lake filled up by next spring, but it has been drained for over three years so what do I know. We decided not to deal with the traffic in Helen and took the southern by-pass back to Cleveland. Then down to Dahlonega and down Hwy 9 back to Alpharetta. A short 200 mile ride, but very nice. Hundreds of bikes were out and even the Harley riders were waving back! Weather forecast this weekend is supposed to be great again, so I foresee another Sunday ride and then back home in time to see the Braves win another one (I hope!) Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 9 Oct 1997 03:59:09 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:03:53 -0700 Since there were no suggestions, I ventured a bit. I tried a contact lens polishing compound. It seemed to work OK. The smudges are now gone and the windshield looks pretty good. If you look closely, you can still see where the coating is gone in some places, but the borders are much less distinct now. The trick will be if the coating doesn't start to peel off over time liked breached paint. Spencer ---------- > From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? > Date: Saturday, October 04, 1997 8:38 AM > > Hi Spencer: > > Yes, the Honda windscreens do have a coating on the back side, and it can > start to peel off after a while. It is also subject to scuffing/scratching, > as you and I have discovered. I don't know of anything that will fix it. If > you try to polish it out, it simply makes a larger spot where there is no > coating, and it remains obvious that the shield has been "damaged" in that > area. I guess you could polish off the entire coating, but I haven't tried > that yet. Might be a big job to get it all off. > > Anyone else have a solution? > > JT > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: Accessories for PC800 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:26:14 -0400 just played around with Honda's website...... found the following..FYI PC800 Accessories from: http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/touring/index.html DESCRIPTION PART NUMBER PRICE Windscreen, Large 08154-MR500 $230.00 Front Nose Mask 08706-MR500 $51.00 Mudguard, Front Fender 08156-MR500 $31.00 Inner Bags, Trunk 08162-MR510 $62.00 Scuff Pad Set, Clear 08162-MR530 $40.00 Trunk Light, Inner 08162-MR500 $36.50 Carpet Mat Set, Trunk 08712-MR500 $26.00 Backrest 08F75-MR5-110 $168.50 Cycle Cover 08361-MR500 $100.00 Prices shown are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices and do not include installation and local taxes. Dealers set actual prices. Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GGN13762; Thu, 09 Oct 1997 06:18:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: indian@starklite.com Subject: PC800: Warning! Tripp-Lite Eqpt Warning! From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 06:18:27 EDT Be advised about the widsom of using Tripp-Lite protection for your computer & other delicate electronic eqpt!!!!! 2 days ago I unplugged my Trippe-Lite SB1000 battery backup to see how the 4 yr old battery was doing. The SB ran things fine but my lovely Epson ActionLaser 1100 got cooked because that turkey SB1000 produced too much voltage. I wondered what was stinking. Epson is total loss bcuz repair is $200 and I can get a Panasonic KXP 6500 printer factory reblt for $295 and it is 4 generations newer. I called Trippe-Lite and they said there was nothing they could do for me as the unit is well out of warranty and never even said they were sorry. Last yr a client of mine had his phone sys blown out due to lightning. He had a Tripp-Lite Isoblok IB-2 protector with Tripp-Lite's $10,000 insurance policy on which he made a claim. They made it so tough for him to make his claim, constantly asking for the impossible that he gave up. Be advised.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GGP13762; Thu, 09 Oct 1997 06:18:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: FMisumi@SedgwickRe.BRKR.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Signal lens wntd! From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 06:18:27 EDT Why don't you check out some of those many used eqpt wrecking yards that fill the back of Cycle World et al ea month with their classified display ads and then too I just posted a web site with 700 mcycle related phone numbers and you can e-mail some of those used pts dlrs.I keep a 3x5 card catalog of web site addresses and suggest you do it too. A bientôt. On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:31:32 -0700 "Misumi, Fred" writes: >Anybody got a spare left rear turn signal lense handy? The local >Honda >shop can order it for $35, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 19:56:07 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: san_kin_cheong@jpmorgan.com, santheep@pacific.net.sg, ken_ng@pacific.net.sg, throttle@pacific.net.sg Subject: PC800: music on the go For all the tinkerers in us, After much thought and procrastination, I finally installed a sound system in my bike. The speakers are Sony ES series (ES stands for Extreme Standard and the speakers have plastic cones) and the amplifier is a 25+25W 'baby' amp. The amplifier is about the size of a small paperback book and the speakers are old units I had which I sent for re-coning at S$15 each. (Couldn't stomach the idea of forking out S$200 for a pair of Hondaline Goldwing speakers.) Anyway, what I've done is bolt the amp inside the fairing, underneath the left fairing pocket and the power supply is wired to the ignition. The only visible thing is the speaker grilles and the input wire to the amp. The input wire coils up in the left fairing pocket and I simply plug in a pocket radio or CD player(am looking at the latest 20sec shock protection models....). Volume is adjusted by the control in the radio/player itself and the whole set up is really compactly hidden. Cruising at 55-60mph, music is still audible but definitely NOT audiophile quality but radio announcements, news broadcasts are very clear. This way, I get AM/FM/CD music on and off the bike. If anyone wants pictures, I can snap a few and get a buddy to scan it. But really, I went for the "less is more" approach so it really looks like a stock bike. Yu Seung from Singapore ('95 - Black and Singing) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , Cc: , , , Subject: Re: PC800: music on the go Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:04:23 -0500 > > For all the tinkerers in us, > Cool! I like your approach. > Cruising at 55-60mph, music is still audible but definitely NOT > audiophile quality but radio announcements, news broadcasts are very > clear. What windshield do you have? Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA28628 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:28:34 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GA Mountains Trip Report Hi, Dave: Thanks for the preview. Diane and I will be leaving here (Clarksville, TN) on Wednesday next for what we plan to be a 4-day romp in and around N. GA. We will be spending the evenings of the 15th and 16th at T.W.O. (Not sure yet about the 17th and 18th). Sounds like we will be a bit early for "the fall show," but we hope for some great riding. If you're up there, look for a pair of PCs (one '89, one '90). Take care, JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA02353; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:31:59 -0400 (EDT) To: shw@thevision.net, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? I wonder if the contact lens polish would be good to use on scratched face shields? John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:58:45 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Just to put my $0.02 in, I recently used used the polishing compound that comes with the micromesh package on the outside of the windshield. It did a very good job of removing the fine scratches that were there. However, on the down side of windshield experiences.....When I first got the bike, I used RainX on the outside (ok) and inside (yech). It must have reacted with the coating. The windshield is still servicable, but there is a slight discoloration. I've been thinking of using the MicroMesh (originally designed to take the scratches out of airplane windows) to remove the coating, then polish out the windshield to a nice clear view again. I used this successfully to take out some deep scratches on the Shadow windshield I had. But then I think......hmmmmmmm Rifle windshield.... -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 97 09:39:02 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: FMisumi@sedgwickre.brkr.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Jfmoemd@aol.com Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Electrical current draw ... Also Gerbins will "double" wire upon request for any item that you want. My gloves and socks are double wired as at a young and dumb age I suffered frostbite on toes and fingers. My husband had just the fingers of his gloves double wired. This allows more heat in specified areas. I believe that they charged me $10.00 extra per pair to do this. BTW it's pouring here and high winds...it's a cager day for sure. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Electrical current draw ... Author: Jfmoemd@aol.com at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 10/8/97 6:44 PM One thing, I understand that the Widder gloves are wired in series, which means you six volts to each glove. Gerbings are parallel so each glove gets twelve volts. I think the Gerbins are a little warmer. Widders are more bulky. Widders cost less. Widder does not make any socks but Gerbing does. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:28:29 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Plastic cracks- glue or replace part? To: MVerVelde@aol.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 The problem with most all "super glues" (cynoacrilate based) is that they have no shear strength (resistance to sliding the two glued surfaces apart). They have great tensile strength (resistance to pulling the two glued surfaces apart). I believe the vibration on a motorcycle will have the most pronounced affect on the shear strength of any adhesive used. The best glue to use would be one of the solvent based ones specifically designed for gluing ABS plastic. The black ABS cement used in plumbing applications comes to mind. Test it in an inconspicuous area first to see if it is compatable with the ABS plastic used on the PC800. If you are gluing on a mounting boss or other protrusion, I would then back it up with any good industrial strength epoxy that takes a 12-24 hour cure time, applied to the surface around the glue joint. JB Weld is a good one to use as it has fillers that make it far stronger. Don't use a 5 minuite epoxy as they are too flexable and will most likely not hold for long. Regards and good luck, Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:40:51 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: PC800: Re: Accessories for the PC800 To: cableguy@one.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"cableguy@one.net" "Fireman Joe" 8-OCT-1997 22:21:19.60 To: IN%"pc800@hpc.uh.edu" "PC800 Listservice" CC: Subj: PC800: Accessories for PC800 They carpet mat set has not been available from Honda for some time now. They don't seem to want to sell this item anymore. Regards, Peter ********************************* just played around with Honda's website...... found the following..FYI PC800 Accessories from: http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/touring/index.html DESCRIPTION PART NUMBER PRICE Windscreen, Large 08154-MR500 $230.00 Front Nose Mask 08706-MR500 $51.00 Mudguard, Front Fender 08156-MR500 $31.00 Inner Bags, Trunk 08162-MR510 $62.00 Scuff Pad Set, Clear 08162-MR530 $40.00 Trunk Light, Inner 08162-MR500 $36.50 Carpet Mat Set, Trunk 08712-MR500 $26.00 Backrest 08F75-MR5-110 $168.50 Cycle Cover 08361-MR500 $100.00 Prices shown are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices and do not include installation and local taxes. Dealers set actual prices. Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA14293; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:46:39 -0400 (EDT) To: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com, cableguy@one.net cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Accessories for the PC800 For trunk mats, use a piece of cardboard to cut-and-try a pattern of the bottom of the trunk. Then go to a carpet store and buy a carpet sample for a buck or two. Apply pattern to carpet, cut, and ta-da!!! A custom-fit carpet liner. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA13391 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:47:09 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:47:09 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? I know there has been quite a bit of commentary before about the general inaccuracy of the PC's fuel gauge (probably due to lack of reserve), but I am beginning to wonder if my 89 is even more conservative than most. Last weekend, the needle was halfway in the red and when I went to fill up the tank would only take 2.1 gallons and that was filling it up almost to the top. With the stated capacity of 4.3, that means I was less than half empty. I know others have said not to worry until the needle gets all the way up to the hose on the tank icon, but I am wondering if I could let mine go around a whole 'nother revolution! I am curious to see if this is consistent with others. Your feedback is appreciated. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TqW07015; Thu, 09 Oct 1997 19:30:12 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dlwinger@ix16.ix.netcom.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:29:38 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Your's is a little more pessimistic, Dave. My '90 hits the red at about 125 miles and I have about 1.2 gallons left, which means it has used 3 gallons. Actually, as long as you can read it, it doesn't matter, but to be able to read it, you need to carry spare gas and run it dry, while watching the needle. A spare quart is plenty, if you do it around town. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:47:09 -0500 (CDT) Dave Lott writes: >I know there has been quite a bit of commentary before about the >general >inaccuracy of the PC's fuel gauge (probably due to lack of reserve), >but I >am beginning to wonder if my 89 is even more conservative than most. >Last >weekend, the needle was halfway in the red and when I went to fill up >the >tank would only take 2.1 gallons and that was filling it up almost to >the >top. With the stated capacity of 4.3, that means I was less than half >empty. > >I know others have said not to worry until the needle gets all the way >up to >the hose on the tank icon, but I am wondering if I could let mine go >around >a whole 'nother revolution! I am curious to see if this is consistent >with >others. Your feedback is appreciated. >Ride as if your life depended on it! > \ >Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ > \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) >Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ > >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ >1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. > / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ > ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) > (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / > `----' `---' > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:41:08 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Dave Lott CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Dave Lott wrote: > I know others have said not to worry until the needle gets all the way up to > the hose on the tank icon, but I am wondering if I could let mine go around > a whole 'nother revolution! I am curious to see if this is consistent with > others. Your feedback is appreciated. Try the Phil Lewis experiment. Put a quart of gas in a metal can, throw it in the trunk and drive. Don't go past the first signs of fuels starvation or you risk damage to the engine. This way you know where your needle is pointing at empty, and several points in between. note that your fill up volume probably won't match the specs because of individual variances in mfg, and the volume of the filler neck. > Alan Taylor 95 PC800 "Midnight" Long Beach, CA -- Shop the virtual mall at http://www.new-mind.com/mall.htm -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 15:49:33 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? At 16:41 10/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >note that your fill up volume probably won't match the specs because of >individual variances in mfg, and the volume of the filler neck. Speaking of that, how many of you fill the tank to the level the manual recommends (that goofy metal loop down in the filler neck)? How about those that try to sqeeze every last drop of fuel into the tank? I personnaly fill it up to within an inch of the actual mouth of the filler, since I usually fill up at the begining of a ride and know fuel won't be up that high for long. Anybody experiment and document the capacity difference between filling up on the sidestand vs. the centerstand? Sorry, my PC is officially parked for the winter, since we already have acouple of inches of snow on the driveway. Leaves a lot of time to think, rather than ride. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:36:16 -0500 Juan A. Goula asks: > Speaking of that, how many of you fill the tank to the level the manual > recommends (that goofy metal loop down in the filler neck)? How about > those that try to sqeeze every last drop of fuel into the tank? I usually fill to the goofy metal loop, then add another 4 gallons. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:40:16 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, SFO DEV. X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? To: dlwinger@ix16.ix.netcom.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Dave, I have a '96 and have found that when the needle is midway into the red segment, a fillup (bike on sidestand) to approx half way up the filler neck requires 3.0 gallons. The reccomendation not to fill up past the metal finger is to help prevent raw gas from being sucked into the emissions reduction system (charcoal cannister) through the gas cap vent hose. I usually fill up and quit when I see the gas foaming up in the filler neck, which is usually no higher than halfway up the neck. I cannot see the metal finger when the pump nozzle is in the filler neck. I believe you are correct in that the gas gauge does not include the usual "reserve" amount for bikes with a manual gas petcock. When the needle points in the red segment, you are out of "main supply" gas and have now "automaticly" switched to reserve, which according to many on the list, ends somewhere around the hose of the pump icon. Regards, Peter *********** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"dlwinger@ix16.ix.netcom.com" "Dave Lott" 9-OCT-1997 15:48:24.28 To: IN%"pc800@hpc.uh.edu" CC: Subj: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? I know there has been quite a bit of commentary before about the general inaccuracy of the PC's fuel gauge (probably due to lack of reserve), but I am beginning to wonder if my 89 is even more conservative than most. Last weekend, the needle was halfway in the red and when I went to fill up the tank would only take 2.1 gallons and that was filling it up almost to the top. With the stated capacity of 4.3, that means I was less than half empty. I know others have said not to worry until the needle gets all the way up to the hose on the tank icon, but I am wondering if I could let mine go around a whole 'nother revolution! I am curious to see if this is consistent with others. Your feedback is appreciated. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 10 Oct 1997 00:49:31 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Mark Lucas" , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:49:34 -0700 I've found that Meguiars # 10 is very effective for removing the fine scratches. I understand it's designed to 'fill in' the scratches rather than truly polish them out. The Meguiars' # 17 plastic cleaner is often used prior to using # 10. These products are often used for convertible car plastic windows and are usually available in auto part stores. I know others have found the Novus products to be effective. I recently had 'smudges' on my windshield that were essentially defects in the windshield coating. I was able to clear them up fairly well with a contact lens polishing compound called Sil O Care. Almost any optometrist would have this or can get it. However, for general windshield and faceshield maintenance, a product called 'Plexus' plastic cleaner protectant & polish is my favorite (I found it available in various local stores). It's replaced my use of Pro Honda Spray Cleaner & Polish. Spencer Whatcott Modesto, Ca. ---------- > From: Mark Lucas > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? > Date: Thursday, October 09, 1997 8:58 AM > > Just to put my $0.02 in, I recently used used the polishing compound > that comes with the micromesh package on the outside of the windshield. > It did a very good job of removing the fine scratches that were there. > > However, on the down side of windshield experiences.....When I first got > the bike, I used RainX on the outside (ok) and inside (yech). It must > have reacted with the coating. The windshield is still servicable, but > there is a slight discoloration. I've been thinking of using the > MicroMesh (originally designed to take the scratches out of airplane > windows) to remove the coating, then polish out the windshield to a nice > clear view again. I used this successfully to take out some deep > scratches on the Shadow windshield I had. > > But then I think......hmmmmmmm Rifle windshield.... > -- > Peace, > Mark Lucas > http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:51:01 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: ... Tank Really Empty? At 19:36 10/9/97 -0500, Bob Ray wrote: >Juan A. Goula asks: > >> Speaking of that, how many of you fill the tank to the level the manual >> recommends (that goofy metal loop down in the filler neck)? How about >> those that try to sqeeze every last drop of fuel into the tank? > >I usually fill to the goofy metal loop, then add another 4 gallons. Very funny Bob, verrry funny. Just because your bike is the KC-10 of PC-dom it doesn't mean you should make fun of the rest of us. ;-) Say, has anyone approached you yet regarding a mid-ride refueling? Would be perfect for you Iron Butt riders! Later! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 10 Oct 1997 01:05:59 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:06:03 -0700 I join you in filling to the top. It seems to drop down below that magic loop as soon as I drive around the block. I suspect the 'filler neck reserve' is all but insignificant, but I ride with a group of non pc's that brag they have the greater range. I'll run out of gas before I'll be the first to pull over for gas. ---------- > From: Juan A. Goula > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? > Date: Thursday, October 09, 1997 4:49 PM > > At 16:41 10/9/97 -0700, you wrote: > >note that your fill up volume probably won't match the specs because of > >individual variances in mfg, and the volume of the filler neck. > > Speaking of that, how many of you fill the tank to the level the manual > recommends (that goofy metal loop down in the filler neck)? How about > those that try to sqeeze every last drop of fuel into the tank? I > personnaly fill it up to within an inch of the actual mouth of the filler, > since I usually fill up at the begining of a ride and know fuel won't be up > that high for long. > > Anybody experiment and document the capacity difference between filling up > on the sidestand vs. the centerstand? > > Sorry, my PC is officially parked for the winter, since we already have > acouple of inches of snow on the driveway. Leaves a lot of time to think, > rather than ride. > > Juan > "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" > -- With apologies to William Shakespeare > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 > School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 > University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat > (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 20:31:29 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: ka2wij@earthlink.net Cc: Dave Lott , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? >From first hand experience: The PC tank holds 4.2gal. 4.3 if you fill the filler neck. Beware! When the needle hits the hose you have ~.5gal but the needle hardly moves anymore, even to empty. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA19627 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 20:45:29 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 20:45:29 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: Re: PC800: ... Tank Really Empty? >>Juan A. Goula asks of Bob Ray: >Say, has anyone approached you yet regarding a mid-ride refueling? Would >be perfect for you Iron Butt riders! Has anyone seen that BP commercial where the car is refueled while still cruising down the highway. That is the image that Juan's question creates in my warped mind. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Yippeee! Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:39:23 -0700 I finally purchased a dashboard replacement and will be installing it this weekend (if my sprinkler project does not get in the way) :-). My old dash was looking kinda poor with melt spots all over. I suspect a new dash will go a long way in sprucing up my baby :-). Harrison * Harrison Spain * EDS Unigraphics GTAC - Systems Support Manager * Voice: 714-952-6114 * Fax: 714-952-5371 * Internet E-Mail: spain@edsug.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:21:55 -0400 To: "Spain, Harrison" From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Yippeee! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Harrison Spain wrote: >I finally purchased a dashboard replacement and will be installing it >this weekend (if my sprinkler project does not get in the way) :-). > >My old dash was looking kinda poor with melt spots all over. I >suspect a new dash will go a long way in sprucing up my baby :-). > I agree! It really is amazing, and I know it is not possible, but when we do something purely cosmetic to our bikes it really makes them 'feel better'. I am sure you will put on the new dash, go for a ride, and then you will 'feel' like it is driving better, or faster, or smoother, etc.! You will be driving along, and since you are looking at a new dash, then you MUST be driving a new bike ! We fool oursleves like this all the time, and it works! I had an old VW beetle that was really suffering, and had started to develop some new noises that were just awful to listen to. They were so bad that I had doubts about making it to the convenience store and back. The estimate for a proper fix was in excess of $500. For $150 I bought a better amplifier and speakers, and I drowned out that noise with loud music. The next week I drove 250 miles to a motorcycle show, and then came back. I never did get that noise fixed, but I had the car for another year before I sold it ! So Harrison...even though only the dash is being replaced, enjoy your 'new bike' ! fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:39:26 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: ...Tank Really Empty? At 20:45 10/9/97 -0500, Dave Lott wrote: >Has anyone seen that BP commercial where the car is refueled while still >cruising down the highway. That is the image that Juan's question creates >in my warped mind. Please elaborate Dave. Even though BP is a major investor in the State of Alaska, BP gasolines are not sold here. We never see any BP commercials. Thanks! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com by emout32.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA22700 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: music on the go Poh Yu Seung wrote: >> After much thought and procrastination, I finally installed a sound << >> system in my bike. << After much worry and hesitation, we have finally decided to come out of the closet! We are relative newbies and dont want to violate the rules on nettiquete. So if this message offends anyone, WE HUMBLY APOLOGIZE. Since 1995, we at K & J Cycle Sounds have selling a mail-order sound system kit for the PC800. Our design is similar to Yu Seung's except that our amp is more powerful and we provide speaker grilles and some custom wiring and other goodies. Our regular price is cheaper than the retail price of the component parts. We DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT intend to try to commercialize this space. We are in the planning stage for our own website. We were planning to announce ourselves and offer the list members a $10.00 discount when it is ready, but Yu Seung's message made us decide to announce prematurely. If interested please E-mail us directly; OR snail-mail us at: K & J Cycle Sounds P. O. Box 31707 Woodlawn, Md 21207-8707 We will respond to you directly with detailed info about this and our other products. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: music on the go From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:57:15 -0500 Lines: 24 >>>>> "K" == KANDJCS writes: K> We are relative newbies and dont want to violate the rules on K> nettiquete. So if this message offends anyone, WE HUMBLY APOLOGIZE. If you have any questions, you can always contact me (the list owner) at the address at the bottom of every message. I'll let you know what's appropriate, and I'll even post the message for you if you're that worried. In this case I think we'd be more than happy to learn more, as there are many people here who are seeking a better solution. Myself, I want something that gives me the handlebar pod with lots of buttons. I wish there was a CD or MD solution that that didn't take up trunk space. 6 disc changer in the front fairing pocket, perhaps? (I never put anything in there anyway.) Right now I have the wired tank bag solution with in-helmet speakers. K> We DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT intend to try to commercialize this space. That's great. Just let us know details and we'll spread the word for you. What gets to be a problem is when ads are posted that aren't in response to questions, or when every remotely related question is followed by an ad. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:27:21 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Georgia Coast Fall Ride At 08:15 PM 10/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >First let me introduce myself. My name is Rich Bumar, I live in Ocoee, >Florida (a suburb of Orlando), and I have a 96 PC, which I purchased new >in April this year. [snip] >Dave, > >I know that you reposted this message, but since you sent it, maybe you >can answer a few questions I have about the event: >1) Do you have to be an HSTA member to attend? I don't know that this is an official, official event of the HSTA like some of the formal rallys but I can't believe you would be turned away if you don't have the HSTA logo tatooed on your left buttock (or is it the right?). We do hope that you would consider joining the HSTA. It is only $25/year with lots of bennies (FYI, the HSTA founder, Dana Sawyer, is a participant of this list and rides a PC. Note to Dana: if Rich joins I get the credit OK?). There are about 75 members from FL, many in the Orlando area and many will be coming to the Jekyll get-together. According to directory (Blue Book, which you get as a member), the FL state director is Chuck Headrick in Titusville (407) 267-5293 or e-mail at crh@digital.net. >2) Is there any kind of official contact that I have to go through or >advanced notice required to attend the rides? In talking to the chief cook and organizer, Randy Ashurst, things will be very informal. Randy is putting together some route maps for different trips. Being a Florida rider, there know there aren't a lot of hills and twisties in the Coastal area, so many of the routes are for the scenary. If I am able to clear some work related items and ride down, I have volunteered to lead a sightseeing trip on Saturday over to St. Simons Island (One of the highlights will be driving across the metal grating of the big drawbridge between Jekyll and St. Simons). Generally folks will congregate in the parking lot of the Ramada Inn after breakfast and kick tires for a while and then make plans. There are some nice coastal roads up to Savannah for a nice day trip. Heck, some of the folks will probably take the time to play a little golf on Jekyll's great courses and keep the m/c parked for part of the day. >3) Do the rides cost anything to attend? Send your $100 deposit to me immediately - cash only. Just kidding!!! There is a $2/day parking fee for Jekyll and a $.35 toll to get to St. Simons. I don't think there is any kind of registration fee for this event. As was in the announcement, there is a group dinner planned Saturday night for a fixed price, but your participation is optional. I am sure Randy will appreciate a donation to help cover his expenses in preparing the rice/beans/chilli concoction he has for folks arriving Friday afternoon; but no big bucks involved. Hope this helps. I will post to the general list as well in case someone has different information. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:40:28 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield peeling? I found MicroMesh at Read Plastics in Rockville, MD. I would think that any higher end plastics shop should carry it or be able to get it. If all else fails, I thing Read will do a shipping order. It's about $20 for a kit, and the abrasive cloths can be used over and over with care. JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, Mark: > > In a message dated 97-10-09 12:00:47 EDT, you write: > > << I've been thinking of using the MicroMesh (originally designed to take > the scratches out of airplane windows) to remove the coating, >> > > Is this stuff marketed outside of the aircraft industry? I don't recall > seeing anything by that name. Where do you get it? > > JT -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:04:41 -0400 BURRRRRRR..... 2 inches of snow........ BIG JOHN says Hello!!! Time to put the skies on the PC then....... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: music on the go Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:09:07 -0400 I dont offend easy.....hehehe welcome and good luck on getting out of the closet and up an running a web page...I'll come visit... is their gonna be door prizes for the first 100....grin Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 1997 23:42:48 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Fireman Joe" , "Juan A. Goula" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:42:52 -0700 What's snow? Spencer Modesto, California ---------- > From: Fireman Joe > To: Juan A. Goula > Cc: PC800 Listservice > Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? > Date: Saturday, October 11, 1997 3:04 PM > > BURRRRRRR..... > 2 inches of snow........ BIG JOHN says Hello!!! > Time to put the skies on the PC then....... > > Life is short---Go ride! > > Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com > CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net > Cellular 513-535-8203 > > I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: > Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org > Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww > Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ > Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com > Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com > Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- > http://www.reynoldsgolf.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA06882 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:14:38 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Bike Tie Down A few months ago there was a thread regarding the best way to tie down the PC on a Pick-up or trailer... This months Rider magazine- page 71 has an article on a new tie down- Canyon Dancer Bar-Harness. Just happened that I found one at a local cycle shop a month ago and have tried it. Used it to tie down my PC in a Pick up, and to tie down my new one in a trailer. They work. Straps don't wrap around any plastic, so no concerns there. I used it to bring my new steed home from Santa Cruz- thru winding mountain roads and freeway- two hours. Didn't budge. Only thing I noticed was- tied down in the Pick up, attatched to front corner of the bed like usual- making it tight did cause the stock rubber handle to squirm up a bit towards the switches- leaving a small gap between the metal bumper and rubber end of the handle. The rubber handle did not squirm up much at all on the trailer when I tried attatching the tie down to the railing not at the front corner like the pick up, but back further a couple feet (but still in front of the handlebar). (Decreases the angle the strap comes out of the 4 inch webbing cuff). There's your report. Mike Ver Velde 89 PC Stockton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:58:04 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Bike Tie Down Mike Ver Velde wrote: >Just happened that I found one at a local cycle shop a month ago and have >tried it. Used it to tie down my PC in a Pick up, and to tie down my new one >in a trailer. ...new one? Tell us more, tell us more! fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:53:36 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: Internet Motorcycle Parts I ordered a new taillight through Keith Lockliear at Internet Motorcycle Parts: http://www.cycle-parts.com I saved 40-50% over my local Honda dealer. All you need is an order over $100 (not hard to do). It does take 7-10 days to receive but the discount is well worth it. Just installed the new taillight and it looks/works great. Thought I'd pass the word along... -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:57:04 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Something interesting... Hi everyone. I just wanted to pass along something interesting that happenned to me yesterday. I needed to renew my plates for my PC800, after I received the renewal notice in the mail. The province has recently installed an automated machine in my community. This automated teller style machine allows you to renew your license plates, order personalized plates, do a change of address, etc., without having to stand in line at the local license bureau (a.k.a. DMV to the US crowd) . It's located at a shopping mall, and I have never seen a line up. One of the option we have here in Ontario is to renew for two years instead of one. If you go in person, the two year option is temporarily not available. (This usually happens when the rates are about to go up.) The automated machine had not yet 'been told' that the two year option was unavailable, so it let me select it. I renewed my playes for two years, and charged it to my Visa. The machine printed out the required tag to stick onto my plate, and it gave me a receipt. The receipt has a drawing of a motorcycle on it, and a couple of arrows on the drawing to show you exactly where on the license plate the sticker needs to be affixed. (In case you are a complete moron and can't figure it out based on the last sticker, I guess?) The drawing on my receipt is of a Pacific Coast! I thought that was pretty neat, considering that the PC800 hasn't been sold in this country since '91, and this system was first implemented in '95. I had a close look at the receipt, and the detail is pretty good. It shows the covered front disks, the notched seat, the side radiator vents, etc. It's even evident from the drawing that the handlebars are covered, and you can see passenger pegs folded up. The drawing is of the right hand side of the bike. Anyhow, I thought that was pretty interesting. I wonder who selected that graphic when the time came to pick one, and why did they pick that one? Could it be there is a PC800 owner working for that division of the provincial government ? Oh well....this was probably boring for most of you, but this list has been pretty quiet, so I guess bad mail is better than no mail, right? bye for now... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 13 Oct 1997 04:18:37 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Francois Saint Laurent" Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:18:41 -0700 I'm sure it was a '90 PC. Once you've seen it, there is no other. Hats off to a government with good taste. Spencer Modesto, Ca. ---------- > From: Francois Saint Laurent > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Something interesting... > Date: Sunday, October 12, 1997 7:57 PM > > Hi everyone. > > I just wanted to pass along something interesting that happenned to me > yesterday. I needed to renew my plates for my PC800, after I received the > renewal notice in the mail. The province has recently installed an > automated machine in my community. This automated teller style machine > allows you to renew your license plates, order personalized plates, do a > change of address, etc., without having to stand in line at the local > license bureau (a.k.a. DMV to the US crowd) . It's located at a shopping > mall, and I have never seen a line up. > > One of the option we have here in Ontario is to renew for two years instead > of one. If you go in person, the two year option is temporarily not > available. (This usually happens when the rates are about to go up.) The > automated machine had not yet 'been told' that the two year option was > unavailable, so it let me select it. > > I renewed my playes for two years, and charged it to my Visa. The machine > printed out the required tag to stick onto my plate, and it gave me a > receipt. The receipt has a drawing of a motorcycle on it, and a couple of > arrows on the drawing to show you exactly where on the license plate the > sticker needs to be affixed. (In case you are a complete moron and can't > figure it out based on the last sticker, I guess?) > > The drawing on my receipt is of a Pacific Coast! I thought that was pretty > neat, considering that the PC800 hasn't been sold in this country since > '91, and this system was first implemented in '95. I had a close look at > the receipt, and the detail is pretty good. It shows the covered front > disks, the notched seat, the side radiator vents, etc. It's even evident > from the drawing that the handlebars are covered, and you can see passenger > pegs folded up. The drawing is of the right hand side of the bike. > > Anyhow, I thought that was pretty interesting. I wonder who selected that > graphic when the time came to pick one, and why did they pick that one? > Could it be there is a PC800 owner working for that division of the > provincial government ? > > Oh well....this was probably boring for most of you, but this list has been > pretty quiet, so I guess bad mail is better than no mail, right? > > bye for now... > > fsl :-) > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BWH06345; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:13:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:42:26 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:42:52 -0700 "Spencer" writes: >What's snow? What's an EARTHQUAKE!!!??? Hee, Hee, Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:54:37 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Spencer worte : >I'm sure it was a '90 PC. Once you've seen it, there is no other. Hats >off to a government with good taste. > >Spencer >Modesto, Ca. > Well, actually Spencer, I don't think it is! The drawing is an outline style drawing only, and it is on white fax quality paper (off-white), so it looks alot like the '89 PC's. Now if I could only get it to print on black paper, then it could be the 94-95. !!!! bye for now... fsl (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:39:40 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Francois Saint Laurent Cc: PC800 Mail List , Dana Sawyer <71430.340@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... There was an ad copy that I once had and sent to somebody in the HSTA. I'm not familiar with the terms but it's a line type image to be used in newspaper advertising. It was supposed the '90 and it was but it had the '89 windshield (early production I assume). I obtained it from the dealer since he wasn't interested in advertising the PC. He is now out of business...too bad. Dana Sawyer had some note cards made up from it (lineart, I think it is). Maybe you could entice him to send you a note on one. Roger Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Spencer worte : > > >I'm sure it was a '90 PC. Once you've seen it, there is no other. Hats > >off to a government with good taste. > > > >Spencer > >Modesto, Ca. > > > > Well, actually Spencer, I don't think it is! The drawing is an outline > style drawing only, and it is on white fax quality paper (off-white), so > it looks alot like the '89 PC's. > > Now if I could only get it to print on black paper, then it could be the > 94-95. !!!! > > bye for now... > > fsl > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 > Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda > > HSTA Member Number 7470 > > (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Francois Saint Laurent" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:11:33 -0400 or maybe the machine has a library of icons in it....and they print what you own????? perrty cool idea though Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "PC800 Listservice" Cc: "CB-750 List" Subject: PC800: Recent update on The Police thing at Deal's Gap Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:50:20 -0400 ATTN!!!! AMA , HSTA, BMWOA, members and fellow bikers.... Hey there's been some more on the recent developments of the Police siege, oops I mean "Positive Police Presence" of Deal's Gap/Fontana the weekend of the Recent BMW RAlly and HSTA TN-Star events held the weekend of Sept 19th.... If you were there please read on...if you have been there recently and have experienced what some call a police harassment saga, or have pictures!!!! ....there's some politics going on....please read an then write!!!! If anyone can transfer this post to the newsgroup's, or BMW list please do so. )))))) cut-sniped from 3 other post's((((( Sorry to bring it up again, but I thought some of you would like to see this reply I got from Robert Rasor of the AMA. Mike STenger HSTA # ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: Police Harassment of Motorcyclists Dear Mike and Rebecca, The AMA has been vigorously pursuing reports of excessive police action during the BMWRA rally at Fontana Resort; (see the press release on our web page ) American Motorcyclist will run a feature story on the incident in the December issue (released first week of November.) There are some parallels between a previous incident in Spartansburg, SC and this incident in North Carolina. We are continuing to gather information and would appreciate any first hand information you can send our way. For a further, in-depth report, contact Chris Kallfelz or Sean Maher at (614) 891-2425. Robert Rasor, Vice President Government Relations )))))))))and another email If anyone would like to write a letter to comment on the recent extreme law enforcement during TN-Star, you can use the following address. Sean at AMA was kind enough to provide it. The address is: Attorney General Michael F. Easley Office of the Attorney General P.O. Box 629 Raleigh, NC 27602 TD "exercise your rights or lose them" ))))))))and another posting...... Here is a reply I got from Sean Maher of AMA Gov. relations. Mike STenger HSTA #5811 STOC #372 Mike and Rebecca Stenger wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > I have recently been alarmed by reports on several internet mailing > lists of law enforcement harassment of motorcyclists at a BMW rally in > Fontana, North Carolina. Incidents were also reported by HSTA members > attending the "TN-STAR" rally in Townsend, TN. Some things reported > include: police roadblocks targeting bikers, checking for license and > registration, etc. At Fontana, a police helicopter was flying over > playing the theme from the Fox show "Cops" ("bad boys, bad boys, whatcha > gonna do...) on a loudspeaker! > I have no first hand information, but I hope you will investigate these > happenings. I'm sure some AMA members were there, and will report to you > more details. Thank you, > > Michael J. Stenger Omaha, Ne. > AMA #404042 HSTA #5811 HRCA STOC #372 SOHC4 #316 > '93 ST1100 '73 CB350F '72 CL350K4 Mike, Thanks for your note and the articles you have sent. We've heard quite a bit about the police action in Fontana. This will be the lead story in the government section of American Motorcyclist next issue (December). All of the information you reported in your note did occur. The action was initiated by Graham County Sheriff Melvin Howell based on "internet intelligence" and reports from the North Carolina Bureau of Investigation that there were going to be 14,000 outlaw bikers with "guns, knives and drugs" riding into Fontana to take over the rally. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction. All of the agencies (Graham Co., Swain Co., NC Hwy Patrol, TVA, US Forest Service) bought into this line of bull! I am preparing a letter to North Carolina's Attorney General, calling for an investigation of the law enforcement agencies and the actions they took. I know that the Governor's office and AG are already being inundated with similar letters from all of the BMW RA folks. You may want to send the Gov. a letter yourself. Thanks again for the information. Sean M. Maher AMA Government Relations smaher@ama-cycle.org ok that's some of the chatter going on.....please speak up!!! Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:18:59 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: GIVI Rear Rack For Sale Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:11:11 -0400 I have a brand new GIVI rear rack for the PC that I would like to sell. I was going to use it to carry my bicycle but it did not work out. It does not have a scratch on it. I paid $80 will sell for $60 plus I will pay shipping in the US. Vince in Fort Myers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 14 Oct 1997 00:12:58 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Timothy B Macy" Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:13:00 -0700 touche, my shorter season friend ---------- > From: Timothy B Macy > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? > Date: Sunday, October 12, 1997 9:42 PM > > > On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:42:52 -0700 "Spencer" writes: > >What's snow? > > What's an EARTHQUAKE!!!??? > > Hee, Hee, > > Tim > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:20:59 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:12:15 -0400 Any of you guys find the perfect place to live let only me know. I was coming back from the Moto Guzzi rally in North Florida and I ran the gage down just below the red mark ( not on purpose ) and took 3.7 gallons. I was puckering. Vince in Fort Myers ---------- > touche, my shorter season friend > > >What's snow? > > > > What's an EARTHQUAKE!!!??? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:24:08 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Biketoberfest Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:14:05 -0400 Any of you PC gearheads going to Daytona Beach at the end of the month? Vince in Fort Myers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:06:51 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Roger Prince wrote: >There was an ad copy that I once had and sent to somebody in the HSTA. >I'm not familiar with the terms but it's a line type image to be used in >newspaper advertising. It was supposed the '90 and it was but it had >the '89 windshield (early production I assume). I obtained it from the >dealer since he wasn't interested in advertising the PC. He is now out >of business...too bad. >Dana Sawyer had some note cards made up from it (lineart, I think it >is). Maybe you could entice him to send you a note on one. > Hi Roger. I know the line art you are talking about. I joined the HSTA through Dana Sawyer, and the correspondance I received from him had the PC800 printed on the front of the envelope. I wish I could have had that same drawing as a lighter screened background on my HSTA business cards. Maybe I'll try to do up my own. bye for now.. fsl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 247 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:06:00 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Douglas Ford" To: "PC 800 Mailing List" Subject: PC800: The fat and skinny of jackets Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:07:02 -0400 Hi list members!! Got a question for ya. When shopping for jackets, what's the = best/recommended way to actually measure for them. As most of the = jackets I've seen so far (via the 'net) for sale are shapped like the = letter 'V', I'm not sure I'll fit in the right size as if I were buying = a navy blue sport coat for work. In other words (and to put it in more = direct terms), if one with a "spare-tire" wants to order a leather = jacket which looks like it's been designed for Mr. Universe, how would = one go about properly measuring for it? Thanks bunches!!!! Now I'll go = eat something ;-) Doug Ford -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id V_P02349; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:20:05 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rocheux@juno.com Subject: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:20:05 EDT Well if you want more light out of your PC then yes the 55/100 bulb is the way to go. I put one in tonite but not before I busted most of the tabs off the red strip that goes along under the windshield. I read but did not absorb the part that tells you to remove the little vent thingy where the bugs fly in and smash on the INSIDE of the windshield. I was to pixxed off and was cussing and crying all at the same time and saying to myself that I would just replace that strip. Funny tho, it seems that even with the tabs busted off it sits right in there as if it didn't even needs tabs. ....and mister, that light is beeeright, bright! So remember if you replace that bulb to take out the vent thingy first. Also I suffered almost breaking the spring retainer that holds the bulb in. I called my neighbor Robert to come help after I got the bulb out and he admonished me for not calling him earlier. He said in his yrs as a Honda mechanic he would remove the panel under the lamp (has 3 screws and could easily swap bulbs. He also said I should have unplugged the socket and removed the rubber dust cover first. Anyway by removing the dust cover and socket from the new bulb after I had installed them and failed at trying to mount the bulb, I was easily able to snap the springy holder in place. Then the dust cover and socket went on easily. All bassackwards is how I went about it. Lucky I did not destroy the spring clip necessitating a nightmare. I will save this letter and print it out and put it in my manual lest I forget my lesson as soon as my new printer arrives. G'nite. Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:46:44 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: The fat and skinny of jackets Doug Ford wrote: >Hi list members!! > >Got a question for ya. When shopping for jackets, what's the >best/recommended way to actually measure for them. As most of the jackets >I've seen so far (via the 'net) for sale are shapped like the letter 'V', >I'm not sure I'll fit in the right size as if I were buying a navy blue >sport coat for work. In other words (and to put it in more direct terms), >if one with a "spare-tire" wants to order a leather jacket which looks >like it's been designed for Mr. Universe, how would one go about properly >measuring for it? Thanks bunches!!!! Now I'll go eat something ;-) > > Hi Doug. The best bet is to see what size fits you at your local dealer, then you can order that size from wherever. I know what you mean about the fit of today's jackets. Alot of the styles out there are for 'Terminator' style bodies, and they seem to be 'cut' so that they fit these people while they are leaning over on a sport bike. Not exactly what we need for the PC, is it? I was looking at jackets from Fieldsheer, Vanson, Bates, BMW, and Aerostich. I ordered an Aerostich in February. I called them up, gave them my measurements, and they sent me a coat. I'm not sure what price range you are looking in, but the Aerostich jackets are about $547 with the spine protector and the all weather liner. Big bucks, for sure, but check with your local hospital and find out the going price these days for a skin graft. It might be worth your while to spend this much on a jacket. I know you can get jackets for less, both leather and 'other', but I would highly recommend at least looking at the Aerostich. It is Gore-Tex, so the entire jacket is waterproof and windproof. I have worn mine in cold windy rain, and in blistering hot summer weather, and I like it alot better than my leathers I had before. It is not as hot as my leathers were in the summer, and it is warmer than my leathers were in the cold weather. This means that I wear it all the time, where as my leathers sometimes got left at home on those temperature extreme days, and when the jacket is in the closet it really doesn't provide that much protection, no matter how much you paid for it! Something to consider... fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WEV02349; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:00:04 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cableguy@one.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, cb750@canadaweb.com Subject: Re: PC800: Recent update on The Police thing at Deal's Gap From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:00:04 EDT Why does this crap always happen in the Southeast? As a Yankee who married a southerner, I would like to get the hell out of here (Rocky in Fairfax VA). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WMM02349; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:07:19 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Jfmoemd@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:07:19 EDT Just go to your Honda dlr or any Jap bike dlr (got mine at a KAw Suz Yam dlr) and they will know which bulb as he said all motorcycles use the same bulb. THIS is an H4 and the make looks like <> at bottom of lid it sez p43t-38 & gd luck and don't screw everything up as I did. Take your time and label each part and put it on a table as I did not do. I have a real behavioral disorder in that vein. It cost $12.95 at Valley Cycle Ctr in Winchester VA and his pt " was 4730 bye On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: >Rocky, > >I'm about to attempt the same bulb swap and I appreciate your words of >wisdom. One reason I haven't done it sooner is that I am intimidated >about >trying to get into the headlight area without screwing things up. >Last time >I had panels off I wound up with three very nice bolts left over. > >Please tell me what the brand and model number of the bulb is so I can >be >sure I get the right one. BTW, I put in the brighter tail lights and >they >help a bunch. Also installed the little red flashing LED Hyper-Lites >on >either side of the licence plate - tapped into the right brake light >line for >the power - and they work fine. Very easy to install AFTER the first >time >but it took me a while to figure it out initially. > >Tomorrow is a cooler day and I'm looking forward to testing out my new >Gerbing gloves. > >Regards, John > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:33:30 -0400 if you had to break off the tabs.....that sounds like.... we have to ask my ace mechanics Cory and Juan...at STAR96 they popped in my bulb for me in a matter of a few minutes.....without removing any plastic..if I recall correct..... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:30:36 -0500 You guys CAN change the bulb without taking all that crap off. I know, I've done it on the side of the road. Just reach up from underneath the light, fer crissake. Bob Ray ---------- > From: Rocky E Rocheux > To: Jfmoemd@aol.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. > Date: Monday, October 13, 1997 9:07 PM > > Just go to your Honda dlr or any Jap bike dlr (got mine at a KAw Suz Yam > dlr) and they will know which bulb as he said all motorcycles use the > same bulb. THIS is an H4 and the make looks like <> at > bottom of lid it sez p43t-38 & gd luck and don't screw everything up as I > did. Take your time and label each part and put it on a table as I did > not do. I have a real behavioral disorder in that vein. It cost $12.95 > at Valley Cycle Ctr in Winchester VA and his pt " was 4730 bye > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: > >Rocky, > > > >I'm about to attempt the same bulb swap and I appreciate your words of > >wisdom. One reason I haven't done it sooner is that I am intimidated > >about > >trying to get into the headlight area without screwing things up. > >Last time > >I had panels off I wound up with three very nice bolts left over. > > > >Please tell me what the brand and model number of the bulb is so I can > >be > >sure I get the right one. BTW, I put in the brighter tail lights and > >they > >help a bunch. Also installed the little red flashing LED Hyper-Lites > >on > >either side of the licence plate - tapped into the right brake light > >line for > >the power - and they work fine. Very easy to install AFTER the first > >time > >but it took me a while to figure it out initially. > > > >Tomorrow is a cooler day and I'm looking forward to testing out my new > >Gerbing gloves. > > > >Regards, John > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:48:41 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:41:03 -0400 Bob, Your spoiling all the fun. Vince in Fort Myers ---------- > > You guys CAN change the bulb without taking all that crap > off. I know, I've done it on the side of the road. Just reach > up from underneath the light, fer crissake. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:03:35 -0400 (EDT) To: fsl@borgconsulting.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The fat and skinny of jackets fsl writes: << but the Aerostich jackets are about $547 with the spine protector and the all weather liner. Big bucks, for sure, but check with your local hospital and find out the going price these days for a skin graft. It might be worth your while to spend this much on a jacket. >> I cannot second this enough! I own an Aerostich (Darien), and had a major wipeout in July (broken collarbone) where I lowsided onto blacktop and slid feetfirst about 25 feet, into lose rocks and finally stopping (when the dust settled) with the guardrail just above my head. The worse that happened to the Aerostich is it got dirty. Tiny rip scrape at the shoulder, and also at the left pocket flap that was covering the zipper. If I wore something CHEAPER, I think I will still be in recovery. I was amazed. As far as comfort- If you use the layering concept you will be toasty. I use it in the Central valley in CA where it can rival Death Valley in the summer at times with traffic. All the zip open vents really are nice. Mike V 89PC Stockton CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:05:44 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:08:59 -0600 From: James and Dana Geist <"Jgeist lubtx"@DOOR.net> To: PC800 Subject: PC800: JC Whitney Hello peoples. I've been trying to get a JC Whitney catalog, to no avail. They tell me there is such a demand for the motorcycle catalog, they can't keep up with the printing. Is there anyone out there with an extra catalog laying around? If so, please let me know. I could really use one. Thank's in advance! James Lubbock, Tx. '90PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:05:57 -0400 From: Jason To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Windshield info, bulbs Figured I'd share my first real PC dissasembly with the list: Being that Legos were my main source of entertainment as a child I find the Service Manual to be great. It rarely read the text because the pictures (At least for what I was doing) were so informative. I'd strongly suggest getting one if you can (but then, most of you probably know this...) Anyway, I wanted to replace the rifle windshield with the hondaline tall (As a test, not permanent!). Reasons include a strong dislike for the styling of the rifle and a desire to have a slightly taller shield. Since the bike came with both (and a shorter rifle screen) I figured I'd give it a go. I found the process to be quite simple. Maybe took an hour and a half start to finish. No broken tabs, no problems. When I saw how the screen mounts I was a little nervous. Looks a bit tall to be held on in that fasion, but I've not heard of any decapitations due to it breaking off, so I'm assuming it works. (I did remember to remove the little vent thing) :) While I was at it I figured I'd replace the left most instrument bulb (So I can see the 0-55 range when driving during the darker hours). Problem is that I can't get the bleeping instrument panel out! I've gotten the trim cover off and I see the (I believe 10mm) bolts holding it on, but I can not loosen them up a single bit. Quite frustrating! This coming week I'll be house sitting with little to do but work on the bike so I hope to resolve it while there. Any advice would be appreciated. Going to try the WD-40 thing, but it does not look like any could get around the bolt and into the threaded area. Regards, Jason crazyapple@ibm.net 94 PC800 0.0.1 python regius -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:51:26 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... If anyone is intererested, the Corel Clip Art Collection has a PC800 in it. Not sure of the model year tho, I think it's *blue*. -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:21:04 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Jason Cc: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield info, bulbs Jason, There are two PhillipsHead screws that permits removal of the panel which is behind the vent that allows the bugs to get on the rear side of the windshield. The screws are behind the rubber panel that is glued to the fairing that the shield rests on. I don't have my shop manual here but it must be in there. Remove that panel and you have access to the rear of the instruments which includes the light bulbs and the speedo cable top end. You were inches (mm?) away. There is a commercially available replacement for those bulbs available from auto parts stores. I have the number at home. It is either in the owner's manual or shop manual. I replace the burned out bulb and also the others because the ends were blackened. Roger Jason wrote: > > Figured I'd share my first > real PC dissasembly with the > list: > > Being that Legos were my main > source of entertainment as a > child I find the Service > Manual to be great. It rarely > read the text because the > pictures (At least for what I > was doing) were so > informative. I'd strongly > suggest getting one if you can > (but then, most of you > probably know this...) > > Anyway, I wanted to replace > the rifle windshield with the > hondaline tall (As a test, not > permanent!). Reasons include > a strong dislike for the > styling of the rifle and a > desire to have a slightly > taller shield. Since the bike > came with both (and a shorter > rifle screen) I figured I'd > give it a go. > > I found the process to be > quite simple. Maybe took an > hour and a half start to > finish. No broken tabs, no > problems. When I saw how the > screen mounts I was a little > nervous. Looks a bit tall to > be held on in that fasion, but > I've not heard of any > decapitations due to it > breaking off, so I'm assuming > it works. (I did remember to > remove the little vent thing) > :) > > While I was at it I figured > I'd replace the left most > instrument bulb (So I can see > the 0-55 range when driving > during the darker hours). > Problem is that I can't get > the bleeping instrument panel > out! I've gotten the trim > cover off and I see the (I > believe 10mm) bolts holding it > on, but I can not loosen them > up a single bit. Quite > frustrating! This coming week > I'll be house sitting with > little to do but work on the > bike so I hope to resolve it > while there. Any advice would > be appreciated. Going to try > the WD-40 thing, but it does > not look like any could get > around the bolt and into the > threaded area. > > Regards, > Jason > crazyapple@ibm.net > 94 PC800 > 0.0.1 python regius -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:49:48 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: ...near destruction of my bike. At 21:20 10/13/97 EDT, you wrote: >Well if you want more light out of your PC then yes the 55/100 bulb is >the way to go. I put one in tonite but not before I busted most of the >tabs off the red strip that goes along under the windshield. I read but >did not absorb the part that tells you to remove the little vent thingy >where the bugs fly in and smash on the INSIDE of the windshield. Rocky my friend, again, I hate to do this to you but... You can replace the bulb without removing _any_ plastic (except the rubber cap). Ask Fireman Joe, I helped him do it over at STAR '96. FWIW, I too have broken off two or three tabs off that trim piece. All you need to do is _look_ at it wrong, and tabs will fall off. Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't any worse. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:41:25 +0100 To: Mark Lucas , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... At 07:51 14-10-97 -0700, you wrote: >If anyone is intererested, the Corel Clip Art Collection has a PC800 in >it. Not sure of the model year tho, I think it's *blue*. >-- >Peace, > Mark Lucas > http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ It's available for download at the PCN website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800cdr.htm Gerard Diepeveen,PCN Pacific Coast Netherlands Gerard Diepeveen, pcn@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 -------------------------------------------------------------- PCN-USA98 tour, for more info go to: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pcn-usa98.htm -------------------------------------------------------------- visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:37:27 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 19:29:22 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Gerard Diepeveen" , "Mark Lucas" Subject: PC800: Something interesting... I found the PC800 image that Gerard had on his web site. Within about ½ hr I was able to create very respectable near-true color bitmaps of the PC for each of the four main color schemes using just the basic Paint program that comes with Windows 95 (with apologies to Mac users). Here's a slick 10-step process for anyone who wants to experiment: 1. Connect to http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800cdr.htm with your browser (I used IE) 2. Right-click on the motorcycle image and choose Save Picture As 3. In the Save As dialog, specify to save the file in your Windows folder, note or specify the file name and under Save as Type select Bitmap 4. Minimize your browser and click on the Start button 5. From the Documents menu select the file you just created (PC800cdr.bmp) 6. This (should) launch Paint and bring up the PC800 BMP file 7. Click on the Fill tool (looks like a jar of paint tipping) 8. On the color palette click on the primary color for your bike (note: if running at Hi Color (16-bit), all PC800 colors should be present) 9. Once your color is selected and the Fill tool is active, you can work quickly to replace the turquoise color with the color of your choice. 10.For detailed work (shading, close areas, etc) you can use the pencil tool and the magnifier. NOTES: - You have one level of undo if you make a mistake. - Don't save the image until you are all done. - You can save the image four times, one for each of the true PC800 colors DISCLAIMER: the above is for demonstration purposes only. If the PC800 image in this example is protected by copyrights, please use good judgment. - Pauly -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Misumi, Fred" To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Part number: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:56:17 -0700 Does anyone have the part number for the rear left turn signal lense? ('89) Fred Misumi Systems Development FMisumi@SedgwickRe.BRKR.com 2940 3822 (fax) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SQI01023; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:29:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: An Accident in Washington From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:29:00 EDT Dear Friend, Today I saw one of our brothers straightening things out and putting things in his trunk. This was in front of the John F. Kennedy Memorial Center For The Arts and on the approach to I-66 West leading out of the city of Wash DC. >From what I gathered he had been knocked down or forced into a guard rail. In front of him was a black pickup with a big Harley sticker in the rear window. I pulled in front of the pickup and went back to the scene. I saw his rear crash guard totally scraped and the right mirror was gone off its tether. I asked him if there were anything I could do and he said "no," that he'd be alright. I then hurriedly scribbled my e-mail address on a card and asked him to e-mail me telling him we could help him out with some free advice perhaps and he was ticked to learn of the PC800 net. I got on my way and about 8 miles later he passed as I was on the exit ramp. I hope he joins us. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SYX01023; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:41:59 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: raybob@HiWAAY.net Cc: Jfmoemd@aol.com, rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:41:59 EDT Thank you for your kind comments--fer crissake. Next time I will know. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:30:36 -0500 "Bob Ray" writes: >You guys CAN change the bulb without taking all that crap >off. I know, I've done it on the side of the road. Just reach >up from underneath the light, fer crissake. > >Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SYW01023; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:41:58 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cableguy@one.net Cc: rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:41:58 EDT Oh well I don't think it needed those tabs anyway--it looks fine. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:33:30 -0400 "Fireman Joe" writes: >if you had to break off the tabs.....that sounds like.... >we have to ask my ace mechanics Cory and Juan...at STAR96 they popped >in my >bulb for me in a matter of a few minutes.....without removing any >plastic..if I recall correct..... > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA13189; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:21:46 -0400 (EDT) To: rocheux@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. Rocky, That putting the parts on a table stuff has got to go! The best way is to toss each part in a big bag as you remove them. When you are ready to reassemble them, shake up the bag and reach in for the first part that comes to hand. Put it on. Then repeat until you can't make any more parts fit. Save any extra parts to throw in the bag the next time. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VrA01023; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:41:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: raybob@HiWAAY.net Subject: Re: PC800: 80/100 Headlite From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:41:53 EDT I had to go over to TRAK AUTO tonite to get a 5006 bulb for my 91 Honda Wagon and noticed a motorcycle bulb(same base as fits the PC) on the rack for $9 or $10 and it was for a motorcycle. Altho it is no high ticket item the purchase of which at a discount auto pts store would save tons of money--it is good to know that they are available perhaps more widely than one might think. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VrB01023; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:41:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Jfmoemd@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:41:53 EDT John, I KNEW this would happen if you got off your medication again! Now if I have to hold you down to administer your meds, so help me Jehosephat I will do it. On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: >Rocky, > >That putting the parts on a table stuff has got to go! The best way >is to >toss each part in a big bag as you remove them. When you are ready to >reassemble them, shake up the bag and reach in for the first part that >comes >to hand. Put it on. Then repeat until you can't make any more parts >fit. > Save any extra parts to throw in the bag the next time. > >John >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: ...near destruction of my bike. Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:24:34 -0400 Yes you did....and I still cant thank you enough!!!! did you read that I put in the halogen 1157's they are really bright!!!!! Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DKGG33A@prodigy.com ( MICHAEL CURTISS) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:20:00, -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu, vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Subject: PC800: GIVI Rear Rack For Sale Anyone need a PC to put under that rack? Got a nice '89. Any takers? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Paul Hayes" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:49:21 -0400 that's interesting I was wondering how to change the color.... I had just been doing that, Gerald's message was 2 before this so I been playing with it... I tried to dload but then decide to right click....I am gonna try your suggestion.....I was wondering how to change the color...... will let you know.. thanks Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Paul Hayes" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Something interesting... Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:15:10 -0400 ok now I got a red PC but the back ground is a dark reddish maroon.....???? ooooppsss I got some gray around the front disc cover, and added a back rest..... and my mud flap... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AsN24214; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:55:21 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:30:00 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:13:00 -0700 "Spencer" writes: >touche, my shorter season friend Hmmm, methinks that even the "touche" has strings attached....shorter season indeed! Huff...snort....!!! Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AsM24214; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:55:21 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:25:55 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: When is the PC Gas Tank Really Empty? From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:12:15 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >Any of you guys find the perfect place to live let only me know. I was coming back >from the Moto Guzzi rally in North Florida and I ran the gage down just below the red >mark ( not on purpose ) and took 3.7 gallons. I was puckering. Vince in Fort Myers Oh, hell, Vince, I don't even start looking for a gas station until I'm in the middle of the red....drives Nan nuts! And in some of the places we ride out here...it drives her REALLY nuts! Fun is where you find it.... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--63,112 Miles of Smiles "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout24.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA09054; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:41:12 -0400 (EDT) To: fsl@borgconsulting.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The fat and skinny of jackets Hi! I tried to buy an Aerostich - I really did! Sent 'em the requested measurements but the jacket and pants they sent were too small. I went through it again, gave them the measurements again, and they sent another jacket that was too small. I'm talkin' about - hey, I couldn't get it zipped! I measure 46" right around the middle, which they knew, and I still spent about $50 in shipping costs to no avail. I said, "The heck with it!" and went to my dealer who had several FirstGear jackets on the rack. I found one that fit - not the "V" type, but one that hangs pretty straight and clear past the waist to the butt. This jacket was the "same size" as the Aerostich that wouldn't fit. Also the FirstGear comes with a zip-in liner. So far I'm pretty happy with it. It's warm and no wind gets through it. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout22.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA25337; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:02:53 -0400 (EDT) To: cableguy@one.net, rocheux@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. OBOY! Can you find out how they did it? John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout29.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA24070 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:15:00 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Gerbing gloves Hi Gang! Well, as promised, the temp went down to about 40 this AM and I got to try out my new gloves. Lemme tell ya, Them puppies get HOT! If it had been colder I might have liked it, but they kept getting hotter and hotter - finally I stopped and unplugged them because they were getting VERY uncomfortable. This is not a criticism of the gloves. They are supposed to heat up, and heat up they do. Be warned, however, that you need to: a) Be prepared to stop and unplug 'em, b) or have a switch in the line that allows you to shut 'em off while you are riding. (Gerbing sells a switch for, I think, $12.) I called Gerbing (very nice folks) and ordered their little thermostat which you can use to set the desired glove (or other heated gear) temperature. Since the gloves heat so well, I ordered a pair of the socks too. Be sure to tell them that you need a splitter and a harness if you order socks, and they will include these items at no extra charge. Best regards, John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:15:35 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Jfmoemd@aol.com Cc: cableguy@one.net, rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. Does that mean how they replaced the headlight bulb? Kneel next to the front wheel, put your hand up her skirt, pull the plug off the rear of the bulb, remove the rubber boot (tab should be on the bottom). With a flashlight and mirror you can see what the bulb latch looks like. Unlatch the bulb, remove it and now reverse the sequence. Be aware if you get the bulb misaligned, it can go inside the housing. Don't ask how I know but it isn't a rumor.:) Roger Jfmoemd@aol.com wrote: > > OBOY! Can you find out how they did it? > > John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by halon.sybase.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA27316 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 08:21:10 PDT From: turner@sybase.com (Leslie Turner) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair Cc: turner@sybase.com Hi Folks, Just found out about this list from the WOTI (Wings On The Internet) list. Yes, I have both a '97 Pacific Coast and a '94 GoldWing Aspencade. I figure in the last 8 years I've traveled 150,000 miles by motorcycle. But I get ahead of myself... Name: Leslie A. Turner Location: the S.F. Bay Area of California Email: turner@sybase.com PC Model Year: presently a '97, but have owned both a '90 and '89 Bought: new, new, used Modifications: added the passenger backrest and Hondaline tall windshield. I bought both the '90 and '89 for myself and my partner back in '90. Had a great time with them, until I put a Corbin saddle on the '90. That increased the reach to the handlebars and aggrevated my repetitive strain in my arms and wrists, so the bike had to go. :-( >From the PC I went to a Kawasaki Voyager, then to the '94 Goldwing Aspencade. I really enjoy the Wing, and have done lots of long and short distance rides with it. But at 95K miles in three years, I figured I better buy a commuter bike if the Wing was going to last until the year 2000. (You see that's the 25 anniversary year for Wings, and I want to own one of those!) ;-) Sooooo, I bought my ex's '89 PC to use for commuting. That worked well until my friend was riding it over Memorial Day weekend and went down in the slippery grease in the center track on the rainy day. Luckily he was fine, but the PC had damage to all surfaces because it high sided, flipped over, you name it. From the wrecking yard we salvaged the Honda- line radio that had been installed when it was new. (I knew that these were no longer available.) Then I bought the '97 PC that I'm riding now. The only thing I don't like when I compare it to the others, is that they've removed the self- canceling turn signals. Oh well, more workout for my thumbs. ;-) My mechanic & I installed the radio and headset hookup, as the speakers were gone from the crash. The install went well, and I have tunes through my helmet, that's wired for the Wing. My question is, has anyone ever taken apart the radio piece that mounts on the handle bar? In the crash it looks like the insides were a bit scrambled. The rocker switches aren't straight in the cutouts, and the tuner only tunes down. There are no intuitively obvious ways to open the housing to look inside. Suggestions greatly appreciated. I also purchased the Hondaline backrest for the passenger seat. I've been very disappointed by its lack of quality fit. The support bars that fit in beside the seat, between the seat and the handrails, don't meet cleanly, and don't allow the backrest to be mounted without forcing -- ie bolt holes don't line up on the backrest. Also, there is so much force to make it fit that it pulls the front of the truck plastic out, leaving a larger than normal gap where the trunk meets the body of the bike. I've asked my shop to talk w/ Honda about it, but so far, now reply. Anybody else had this happen? And lastly I wish I'd read the archives before buying the Hondaline tall windshield. I like the taller shield, but not the melting dashboard affect. Oh well... :-( So, glad to find the list.... Many happy miles.... -Leslie turner@sybase.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:34:32 -0700 To: turner@sybase.com (Leslie Turner) From: Erin Dolin Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > >Name: Leslie A. Turner >Location: the S.F. Bay Area of California >Email: turner@sybase.com >PC Model Year: presently a '97, but have owned both a '90 and '89 >Bought: new, new, used >Modifications: added the passenger backrest and Hondaline tall windshield. > Hi Leslie! Welcome to the list! You'll find all kinds of info from this group. I'm also in the SF Bay Area (Mountain View) with more and more PC owners springing up every day. Keep your eyes peeled for gatherings in the area. Erin %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Erin Dolin Human Resources Assistant School of Engineering Stanford University Terman 251 Stanford, CA 94305-4027 Phone: (650) 725-8245 Fax: (650) 725-7426 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:02:59 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:46:18 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: An Accident in Washington To: PC800 List Rocky wrote: >>I then hurriedly scribbled my e-mail address on a card and >>asked him to e-mail me telling him we could help him out with >>some free advice perhaps and he was ticked to learn of the >>PC800 net. ^^^^^^ Now, Rocky, I don't think our reputation is THAT bad, is it? Steve Schibuola Brea, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 09:29:54 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Cc: raybob@HiWAAY.net Subject: Re[2]: PC800: 80/100 Headlite I have replaced the headlight bulb in both my 400 Suzuki Bandit and my husbands street/dirt bike (also a Suzuki) at the local "buy all" store, called Fred Meyer. It is a store that is like Walmart, only with groceries too. It was sold as a car bulb replacement, but it was a perfect fit and works great. Since my Bandit is no longer manufactured, the Suzuki shop didn't have a part number to order it by when the low beam went. When the high beam went, a month later, it was a case of not being able to ride that bike. My husband and I talked it over for about 2 minutes, deciding "it works in the dirt bike, let's go try it." The same replacement bulb also worked in my Bandit. I say don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty", '91 Bandit "Red Robber" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: 80/100 Headlite Author: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 10/14/97 6:51 PM I had to go over to TRAK AUTO tonite to get a 5006 bulb for my 91 Honda Wagon and noticed a motorcycle bulb(same base as fits the PC) on the rack for $9 or $10 and it was for a motorcycle. Altho it is no high ticket item the purchase of which at a discount auto pts store would save tons of money--it is good to know that they are available perhaps more widely than one might think. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SEU00359; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:36:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Roger_Prince@dg-webo.webo.dg.com Cc: Jfmoemd@aol.com, cableguy@one.net, rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky Rocheux) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:36:01 EDT Don't need to worry about misalignment of the bulb. Just either side of center of the lens is a clear spot that allows you to, with your hand up between her forks, and your eyeball peering into said lens, oversee the entrance of the bulb. In case you forget the alignment, there is a flat spot on the rim just below the bulb and that flat spot is installed to the bottom and lines up parallel to the horizon. I could not have inserted that bulb without observing the entrance via the lens. I felt like a peeping Tom. I never did see the retainer clip in a mirror during the actual unlatching or elatching but was able to feel my way thru unlatching and relatching it. Now these 2 messages together comprise all ya need. In the brite sun today I took a good look at the plastic panel under the windshield and I consider myself lucky that without the tabs is sits in there so nicely. I WAS worried. On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:15:35 -0400 Roger Prince writes: >Does that mean how they replaced the headlight bulb? Kneel next to >the >front wheel, put your hand up her skirt, pull the plug off the rear of >the bulb, remove the rubber boot (tab should be on the bottom). With >a >flashlight and mirror you can see what the bulb latch looks like. >Unlatch the bulb, remove it and now reverse the sequence. >Be aware if you get the bulb misaligned, it can go inside the housing. > >Don't ask how I know but it isn't a rumor.:) > >Roger > > > >Jfmoemd@aol.com wrote: >> >> OBOY! Can you find out how they did it? >> >> John >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA29921; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:23:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Roger_Prince@dg-webo.webo.dg.com cc: cableguy@one.net, rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. Roger, I LOVE it when you talk sexy!! John PS thanks for the suggestion and I will implement it tomorrow. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA29648; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:47:12 -0400 (EDT) To: turner@sybase.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair Welcome Leslie! I think you will find, as I have, that this is a very friendly and helpful bunch. Reading the E-mail is a nice part of my day. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:26:03 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: Leslie Turner CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair Leslie Turner wrote: > >> > I also purchased the Hondaline backrest for the passenger seat. I've > been very disappointed by its lack of quality fit. The support bars that > fit in beside the seat, between the seat and the handrails, don't meet > cleanly, and don't allow the backrest to be mounted without forcing -- > ie bolt holes don't line up on the backrest. Also, there is so much > force to make it fit that it pulls the front of the truck plastic out, > leaving a larger than normal gap where the trunk meets the body of the > bike. I've asked my shop to talk w/ Honda about it, but so far, now > reply. Anybody else had this happen? > Hi:- I was convinced that the backrest was for a different bike and that the holes in the actual back plate would have to be re-drilled. Then I read the instructions again. Mount the backrest onto the brackets _first_ then assemble to the seat. All came together quite nicely then. I still had a small gap on one bolt (rear driver's left) but left it. I have since sold the bike, a pristine '89 and bought a 92 ST1100. > And lastly I wish I'd read the archives before buying the Hondaline tall > windshield. I like the taller shield, but not the melting dashboard > affect. Oh well... :-( > I would suggest Saeng or other edging be put on the shield to prevent the melting. The ST has a non obtrusive moulding that would work, it is about 1/4" X 1/4" X 1/4" approxomately. You should be able to pick up some at a plastics shop on a marina cut to size that you need. If you go with the Saeng edging and it is in your line of sight, you can cut the shield down to suit or get a plastics shop to do it for +- $20. Hope that these bits may be useful to you. Best regards, have a GREAT day, and ride SAFELY Hal MacDonald Ajax Ont. Canada STrider now but still enjoying the PC list. > So, glad to find the list.... Many happy miles.... > -Leslie > turner@sybase.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:16:22 -0400 Are any of you using this thing called ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html it's kinda like having the ability of AOL's Instant message thing without being a Aol'r... it let's you have a list of friends, an let's you know if they are online any where on the net.... I thought I'd give it a try as alternative to having to be in a chat room thing... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout26.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:23:13 -0400 (EDT) To: SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: An Accident in Washington In a message dated 97-10-15 12:04:11 EDT, SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com writes: << Rocky wrote: >>I then hurriedly scribbled my e-mail address on a card and >>asked him to e-mail me telling him we could help him out with >>some free advice perhaps and he was ticked to learn of the >>PC800 net. ^^^^^^ >> "Tickled" perhaps? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:25:30 GMT >From "Fireman Joe" Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:16:22 -0400 See my comments in/after your email. - ]Monty[ "Are any of you using this thing called ICQ "http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html " "it's kinda like having the ability of AOL's Instant message thing without "being a Aol'r... "it let's you have a list of friends, an let's you know if they are online "any where on the net.... " "I thought I'd give it a try as alternative to having to be in a chat room "thing... " "Life is short---Go ride! " As you already know... I do :-) How bout the rest of you? ]Monty[ 89 Sailor Moon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:43:10 +0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Santheep Singh Subject: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ >Are any of you using this thing called ICQ >http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html > >it's kinda like having the ability of AOL's Instant message thing without >being a Aol'r... >it let's you have a list of friends, an let's you know if they are online >any where on the net.... > >I thought I'd give it a try as alternative to having to be in a chat room >thing... > >Life is short---Go ride! ----CUT---- There are a few types. ICQ, AOL Instant Messenger and peoplelink. I prefer peoplelink cos it takes up less space. But I believe ICQ isa faster and has more features. '95 Black Chitty Chitty Bang Bang /_\ / / \ \ ( /o o\ ) ( U ) .------oOOo----\_-_/-----oOOo--------, /_| santheep@letterbox.com |<- On-Line with PeopleLink | santheep@cheerful.com | http://www.peoplelink.com/ | http://home.pacific.net.sg/~santheep | `---------------------------------------' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "ckp" To: , "Santheep Singh" Subject: Re: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:02:13 +0200 > >Are any of you using this thing called ICQ > >http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html I use ICQ now for about 5 months, and it's really great. I've talked to several people all over the world, I also use CoolTalk from Netscape, with this program, a full duplex soundcard and a mic you can actually talk to each other, I have used this also several times and the audio quality is really good. Note: Full duplex allows you to speak to each other like in a telephone conversation. Gerard -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: Re: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:29:45 +0100 Hi Joe I used it for a while, it works great. I don't use it anymore because I changed internet provider. I now use a provider wich is only for people who are having his own buisness and on that provider ICQ doesn't work. But it's much faster then Planet Internet that I used before and cheaper. If you have any questions or if you want to try ICQ, the Planet Internet is still working for a while so we can try it out some time if you want. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl ---------- > Van: Fireman Joe > Aan: CB-750 List > CC: Joe Beresford ; PC800 Listservice > Onderwerp: PC800: OFF Subject--- ??? ICQ > Datum: donderdag 16 oktober 1997 5:16 > > Are any of you using this thing called ICQ > http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html > > it's kinda like having the ability of AOL's Instant message thing without > being a Aol'r... > it let's you have a list of friends, an let's you know if they are online > any where on the net.... > > I thought I'd give it a try as alternative to having to be in a chat room > thing... > > Life is short---Go ride! > > Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com > CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net > Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 > > Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com > > I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: > Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org > Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww > Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ > Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com > Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com > Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- > http://www.reynoldsgolf.com > ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout41.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA02702; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:41:53 -0400 (EDT) To: rocheux@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. In a message dated 97-10-15 07:51:25 EDT, rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) writes: John replies: If you follow this process diligently you will eventually be able to build a whole PC with the left-over parts. John << John, I KNEW this would happen if you got off your medication again! Now if I have to hold you down to administer your meds, so help me Jehosephat I will do it. On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: >Rocky, > >That putting the parts on a table stuff has got to go! The best way >is to >toss each part in a big bag as you remove them. When you are ready to >reassemble them, shake up the bag and reach in for the first part that >comes >to hand. Put it on. Then repeat until you can't make any more parts >fit. > Save any extra parts to throw in the bag the next time. > >John >-- >> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NpR23117; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:15:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: indian@starklite.com, indian@dorje.com Subject: PC800: Heck of a deal on mc ins. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:15:06 EDT If you have none other than your antique motorcycle click delete. If you have other bikes listen to this. I was being charged like crazy and was able to save about a couple hundred dollars a year by going to Dairyland & then by going to Progressive I went to $586 yearly from $994 on my 3 other bikes. I have a 96 Honda Pac Coast, 96 Kaw ZL600 Eliminator and a 92 Suz 1400 Intruder. Plus I just put my van and 2 cars with them and brought the mc ins down to about $489! The I dealt with at Progressive is Chris at 800-289-7704 extension 2869. He is in Cleveland so you can congrat him on the Indians (baseball type Indians). Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout41.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA19229; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) To: turner@sybase.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair Welcome Leslie! I think you will find, as I have, that this is a very friendly and helpful bunch. Reading the E-mail is a nice part of my day. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id N{N23117; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:36:13 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Jfmoemd@aol.com Cc: SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: An Accident in Washington From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:36:13 EDT Yes, delete ticked and enter tickled. That is too funny. Rocky On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Jfmoemd@aol.com writes: and he was ticked to learn of the PC800 net. ^^^^^^ >> > > "Tickled" perhaps? >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:47:52 -0400 From: "Dana L. Sawyer" Subject: PC800: Aerostich suits for sale To: John Castagna , Danny Gordon , HondaPacificCoastOwners , HSTA Postings to List , Ron Maudlin <74726.2016@compuserve.com>, "Samuel \"Todd\" Nunnally" , "Donald L. \"Moose\" Parish" , Elbert Silbaugh MR. & MRS. FOSSIL=92S AEROSTICH SUITS FOR SALE - Dana=92s - size 44 two-p= iece Roadcrafter; cobalt blue with dark blue ballistics; back pad; hip pads; b= ib pants converter; 2 pair suspenders; accessory ellipse; excellent conditio= n; washed numerous times (making it softer and more comfortable to wear than= a new one); no rips, tears, or abrasions. New cost - $820. Save over $300. Your cost - $450.00. Lynn=92s - size 32 one-piece Roadcrafter; cobalt blue w/dark blue ballist= ics; worn only a few times; absolutely as brand new. New cost - $667. Save ove= r $200. Your cost - $450.00. Reason for selling - Never had a blue bike. Don=92t know why I bought the= m in that color! Ready for something new (but definitely not blue!) Dana Sawyer, 803/781-4293. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: TourKing Half cover for PC Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:56:13 GMT Just a little note to let everyone know that I just bought a half cover from Terry at TourKing (tourking@camalott.com) for my PC. I have the Rifle 22" (27" overall) and a passenger backrest, so Terry had me give him the measurements over the phone and made me a custom one at no extra charge. I just received it today and it fits like a glove! It covers the windshield, the dash, and the seats. It is just a light weight nylon cover (kind of like tent material), but it should keep the majority of the rain off. I just wanted something to keep the dew off, but this looks like it will more than handle it. Takes about 30 sec to put on and off. It comes with a neat little bag and is about 4" x 6" x 2" when folded up. The really cool thing is Terry does business the "old fashioned way". Trust. He sent me the cover without taking my credit card, and trusts me to send him the check. Which is already in the mail. His web site is http://www.abilene.com/tourking/index.html ]Monty[ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA13039; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:09:56 -0400 (EDT) To: Jfmoemd@aol.com, rocheux@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlite and near destruction of my bike. Oh, and Rocky, I forgot to give you the good news! My adventure with the headlight and the turn light left me with three nice black screws to add to my collection. I'll be building my new spare-parts-PC soon! John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA02450; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:16:44 -0400 (EDT) To: rocheux@juno.com, Roger_Prince@dg-webo.webo.dg.com cc: cableguy@one.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 55/100 Headlight and near destruction of my bike. Well, today was the day! I decided I'd change the headlight bulb. I re-read the various posts on the subject, got out my tools and flashlight, and went to work. I removed the panel beneath the headlight (3 Phillips bolts) for easier access. Next, unplugged the headlight power plug from the bulb, noticing its orientation so I'd know how to put it back on. Removed the dust guard - it just pulls off. The large tab goes at the bottom and the top is marked, "top" so you can't miss on that. By feel I found the bulb retaining "thing" and released it. The bulb falls right out in your hand, almost. I got a 55/100 bulb. My Honda dealer said he'd gotten a ticket with the 80/100 because the cop said his low beam was too bright. Since I want mainly the 100 so I can be seen better, the 55/100 is fine. It cost about $11.00 from the Honda dealer. I tried several places but they only had the 55/60. In the process of turning the bike around in the garage so that the front end would be toward the door (and the light,) I -- Yes, you guessed it! I dropped the fool bike and it went clear over onto the right mirror which of course popped off. Not, however until the outer mirror casing was thoroughly crunched and cracked. My simple job had turned complicated. Well, part of my learning experience was that I now know the intimacies of the innards of the mirror/turn signal. I took it apart and glued the casing together as best I could. What with fast-drying glue, I was able to reassemble it and get it back on the bike. It works fine but doesn't look too good. A new mirror outer shell costs about $35.00 from my dealer IF they could get it from Honda. They told me stories about 'Wing parts - some had been back-ordered for 6 months or more, last year. Discouraging! So, I've now got the hot tail lights, the hot headlight, the Hyper-Lites, and the Gerbing gloves. That's probably enough of an insult to my alternator at least until I install an ammeter and a voltmeter so I can tell what's really happening. As soon as my electric socks come, I'll be READY! Best Regards, John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout29.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA26675 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) To: Jfmoemd@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie to the list asks about radio repair In a message dated 97-10-16 05:44:43 EDT, John writes: << Welcome Leslie! I think you will find, as I have, that this is a very friendly and helpful bunch. Reading the E-mail is a nice part of my day. >> Let me add, we are also twisted, weird and love to have a good laugh. Some days I come home from work needing a good laugh- I know where to turn. welcome aboard Leslie! Mike Ver Velde 89PC Stockton CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AqF13582; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:55:59 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:43:36 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: An Accident in Washington From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:29:00 EDT rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) writes: >I then hurriedly scribbled my e-mail address on a card and asked him to e-mail me >telling him we could help him out with some free advice perhaps and he was ticked >to learn of the PC800 net. Well, Jeez, Rocky, if he was ticked....then why did you tell him? Oh, come on everybody, am I the only one with poor enough taste to point out this typo? Especially after the grammar lecture? Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave DeLang To: Ted Gerarden Cc: PC800 list Subject: Re: PC800: Three questions re the problem of the high beam being too high and the low beam being too low. It is klugy but I have found that you can put the rocker switch right in the middle and both filiments will be on. 'don't know about heat or anything like that, but it will stay in the middle there after you get the feel t=for the right spot. Dave D. '90 PC 21K++ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: Re: ST800 (duh) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:13:14 -0400 well someone once said it holds 147 hot dog buns... I was able to squeeze in about 48 cans of beans.... it holds a couple of 2 liter pops or a extra gallon of milk... oh yea you can also cram a set of leathers in one side and clothes in the other, In mine let's see right now I think there's a widder vest, gloves, set of rain gear, booties, extra clothes, shorts, undies, socks, roll of toilet paper, tools, extra headlight bulb, the repair manual, all receipts for work done, towel, T-shirt to cover windshield to slow down dash meltdown, some mothers polish/and a rag to clean, a can of OFF bug spray, a universal remote control, some loose screws from somewhere I cant recall, the HSTA blue Book, lets see that leaves just enough room for me to shove a gym bag in with my shaving/med kit and fanny pack, and maybe a sweatshirt.... As I am packing to go ride this afternoon, and looks like I'll need to throw in a set of thermal underwear.......... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "CB-750 List" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: FW: Jokes ROFLMFAO Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:45:30 -0400 Ok Gang here's another joke of the day..... warning may contain adult language...... since the weather is getting chillier...... ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< Shakesspeare......1st grade style A little boy in the first grade is told by the teacher he's going to be in the class play. He tells her " No, I won't be in the class play." The teacher says " You have to be in the class play." He tells her " No, I won't be in the class play." She says " Look, if you're not in the class play, you'll break your mother's heart. I know how you feel so I'll give you the easiest part. All you have to say is ' Hark, there's hope for her soul. I'll snatch a kiss and steal off in the night. Shakespeare.'" Reluctantly the kid agrees. On the big night his moment comes. The stage lights are on him, his mother smiles and the kid says " Hark, there's soap in her hole. I'll kiss her snatch and beat off in the night. Snakeshit--er Spereshit--er Oh, fuck it. I didn't want to be in the play in the first place." ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< ROFL !!!!! ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:02:13 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Richard Neil Subject: PC800: New to list Name: Rick & Carol Neil Location: Dalton, Ohio Email: rick425@geocities.com PC Model year (if you have one):--- Bought Used/New:---- Modifications made to bike:---- We own a 1985 goldwing asp. Since getting the bike five years ago we have made almost all the states east of mississippi river. The better half is now seriously considering her own license and bike. She seen a pc800 this week end and now has the desire to ride her own. So any info on bike and what to look out for. Is it a bike suited for the better half? What can I figure to pay for used? And are they available on the used market. Thanks Rick & Carol Neil GWWRA-Chapter I of Ohio Gateway to the Amish country -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "PC800 Listservice" Cc: "Joe Beresford" , "CB-750 List" Subject: PC800: Harley mags for sale Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:47:15 -0400 I know this is off the subject but. . .a friend has for sale a set of Harley Davidson mag wheels. 19' front w/ new Dunlop tire and a 16' rear with a Dunlop tire. for more info. call 513-793-BIKE. ask for Gregg. Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id POJ07345; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:10:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cableguy@one.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Jokes ROFLMFAO From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:10:00 EDT That was a really dirty joke for this genteel crowd. I did smile I must admit and will forward it to Becky at the joke net. Rocky Remember we have a lady present. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:16:43 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Rocky E Rocheux Cc: cableguy@one.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: FW: Jokes ROFLMFAO Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > That was a really dirty joke for this genteel crowd. > I did smile I must admit and will forward it to Becky at the joke net. > Rocky > > Remember we have a lady present. > -- Rocky, What about the other girls?:-) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:43:01 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:42:53 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Richard Neil CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New to list Richard Neil wrote: > The better half is > now seriously considering her own license and bike. She seen [sic] a > pc800 this week end and now has the desire to ride her own. So any > info on bike and what to look out for. Is it a bike suited for the > better half? What can I figure to pay for used? And are they > available on the used market. > Welcome to the list. It's always interesting to hear a "winger's" take on the PC, so when you've finally ridden one and have some opinions, let us know. Most dealers will tell you that when the PC first came out in '89, its price point put it in the same league as the Wing, and many early '89s sold were sold as a bike for, as you put it, one's "better half." For that purpose, a PC is somewhere between perfect and slightly better than perfect. Frankly, I think it's a better bike than the Wing on several levels (not power or storage space, of course, but many other areas). They are, of course, available for sale used. Obviously, dealers tend to sell them for more than a private party. You will occasionally see them advertised on this list. Most used '89s are worth about $3,500 more or less. More recent model years will be higher. I don't think you'll find a single list member here who would not advise you to find one and buy one for her immediately. (Please encourage her to take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course -- info on local course places and times is typically available at your dealer.) Check this list's archives by pointing your web browser at: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800 There you will find several past discussions from this list wherein the merits of this motorcycle are covered rather thoroughly. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 19 Oct 1997 02:27:26 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Holly" , "Tato" , "Barbara Whatcott" , "Bruce R. Hoban" , "Christine Souza" , "Diane Katsma" , "Diane McFarlin" , "Felicific Potentate of the Church of the Omega Centurions" <73520.2215@compuserve.com>, "Jack" , "Nolan" , "Kelly" , "Kybo" , "Patrice Tolboe" , "pc800" Subject: PC800: This is a good one... Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:27:35 -0700 Forwarded message: Subj: Funny ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 97-10-17 12:54:46 EDT From: Spencer's Motorcycle Widow New Microsoft Product Microsoft Corporation today announced its intent to purchase, copyright, and upgrade God Himself. The new product would be named, predictably enough, Microsoft God, and would be available to consumers sometime in late 1998. Too many people feel separated from God in today's world, said Dave McCavaugh, director of Microsoft's new Religions division. Microsoft God will make our Lord more accessible, and will add an easy, intuitive user interface to Him, making Him not only easier to find, but easier to communicate with. The new Microsoft Religions line will be expanded to include a multitude of add-on products to Microsoft God, including: Microsoft Crusades: This conversion product will bring all worshipper accounts and prayer files over from previous versions of God, or from competing products like Buddha or Allah. Microsoft God for the World Wide Web: This product ties Microsoft God with Microsoft Internet Information Server, making our Lord accessible from the World Wide Web using a standard Web browser interface. It introduces several new Web technologies, including Dynamic Salvation and Active Prayer Pages (APP). Donations for the poor can be transmitted via a Secure Alms Server. Microsoft Prayers: Using a Windows-based WYSIWYG interface, this product will allow worshippers to construct effective prayers in a minimum of time. A Secure Prayer Channel technology allows guaranteed delivery of the prayer to Microsoft God servers, and Prayer Wizards enable users to construct new types of prayers with a minimum learning curve. Microsoft Savior: This product will allow worshippers to transfer their sins to its internal Vice Database. After a preset interval, the product will erase itself from the user's system and establish a clear line of secure communications to the user's Microsoft God server. Additionally, Microsoft is expected to announce a line of complimentary products for the new Religions line, which will enhance the functionality of the Microsoft God server product by providing a customized user interface. These interfaces will be based on popular religious sects, allowing worshippers to interact with the new God product in much the same way as the previous version. This line is expected to include Microsoft Christianity, Microsoft Catholicism, Microsoft Judaism (incompatible with Microsoft Savior), etc. Competitor Netscape Communications denies rumors that it is planning to release a competing product, Netscape Satanism, that would attempt to render Microsoft God installations inoperable. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "karen and tom" To: "pc800 owners" Subject: PC800: another new guy Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:49:38 -0400 anyone know of any fix for the 89 tire rub problem other than a later model trunk liner? must have taken alot of engineers a long time to develope a wind screen that gets the bugs on the backside and doesnt allow the rain to run off on the front of it.have the tall honda shield on my ride and the rain sticks like glue to it?!?! go figure.guess the best thing to do is dont ride in the rain.dont much care to anyhow.... tom boynton 89, pc800 bought used in 92 with all the factory do-dads on it.also one of them dirt riding kind of a guys,trials and dual sport. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GREGORY.EYRICH@EY.COM (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:47:59 -0400 Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:47:59 -0400 Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:47:59 -0400 To: " - (052)pc800(a)hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Bummed after R&R or Plastic! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:44:27 -0400 Well this weekend I decided to give my mount a real cleaning. Not just a spray the hose and wipe off but a scrub to the core washing. I began by removing most of the plastic (decided not to remove the fairing and windshield as that will happen soon enough when I but the Rifle:) ). Side panels top and bottom, trunk, trunk lid, top cover (was wondering what the aircleaner looked like), etc. Everything went fine on the disassemble. Being a firm believer in learning from others I re-read the post on the proper way to work on a bike (Although I passed on the dropping the bike part . . . At least for now.) Wanting to bring the best of all approaches to my experience I decided to randomly throw some parts on to my workbench while others went into a nice paper bag. After the plastic has been cleaned and dried it was time to re-assemble. I followed instructions and gave the bag a good shake (This might have been where I had the problems). After about 1.5 hours of fitzing around with tabs, grommets, allen bolts, etc, imagine my suprise when I had NO LEFT OVER PARTS!!! TOTALLY BUMMED. I was so looking forward to beginning to build my next PC! So, here's my question: When shaking the bag should you use both an up and down as well as side to side motion? I think I only went side to side. Also, what should I do now? Can I grab some bolts from my other "Projects" and pretend to have a collection? or do I need to wait for the next time and pay more attention? Thanks for you help in advance!!! Greg Eyrich gregory.eyrich@ey.com '94 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John LaFreniere Subject: PC800: regulator/stator issue--offer To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello all- I've been away from the list for a while but I'm back. Please note new e-mail address. On to the stator issue: After a 30 mile freeway ride, my 89 would not restart... dead battery. Push starting worked, and we drove the 30 miles home, parked the bike, drove the "cage" to Sears and bought a new "die-hard" battery for the PC. (in stock, $79 after core) We brought it home, filled it with acid and trickle charged it over-night. To make a really long story not so long, battery went dead about 2-3 days after that. OOOps. Hoping that it was the voltage regulator, rather than the the stator, I checked the archives and determined how to check for a fried stator. After checking the bike out according to the information in the archives, I determined the problem to be the voltage regulator ($160+ dealer only). They had one in stock, so I bought it, installed it, and... to make a really long story not so long, battery went dead about 2-3 days after that. OOOps. (I guess it actually is getting to be a really long story) The stator was bad after all. Either I checked it out wrong (quite possible) or the archive info was not complete... Since changing the stator is out of my league, I took it to the dealer. The dealer suprised me by stating he would be happy to ask Honda to help pay for the repair, but wasn't very optimistic about their response. I said, "look I realize the bike is 8 years old, but it only has 13k on it. I'd be willing to pay something, maybe labor, but I think Honda should pay for the part" He said "well there is another option... We can send it out to be rebuilt. With labor, the whole thing would be about $300" The only catch is 90days parts warranty, no labor warranty if the rebuilt part fails. Being the gambler that I am, I went for it. I checked it with the meter before leaving the dealer, and it certainly was charging. Benifit to the group: I have my original Voltage Regulator (i'm keeping the new one) which is still in working order. If you have an '89 PC are having problems with your charging system, I'd be glad to mail it to you so you won't have to pay $170 to find out your stator is bad, like I did. If you're lucky enough to find the regulator is the only problem, buy a new one, and send me back mine, so I can continue to offer this service to the group. If you have an '89 that hasn't had any charging problems, print this out, fold it up, and put it in the trunk of your PC. You may need it someday. johnla@yahoo.com John - (818) 775-5881 _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:20:15 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: John LaFreniere Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: regulator/stator issue--offer Somebody recently advertised a "parts" PC, '89 I believe. Should be in the archives. Roger John LaFreniere wrote: > > Hello all- > > I've been away from the list for a while but I'm back. Please note new > e-mail address. > > On to the stator issue: > After a 30 mile freeway ride, my 89 would not restart... dead battery. > Push starting worked, and we drove the 30 miles home, parked the > bike, drove the "cage" to Sears and bought a new "die-hard" battery > for the PC. (in stock, $79 after core) We brought it home, filled it > with acid and trickle charged it over-night. > > To make a really long story not so long, battery went dead about 2-3 > days after that. OOOps. Hoping that it was the voltage regulator, > rather than the the stator, I checked the archives and determined how > to check for a fried stator. > > After checking the bike out according to the information in the > archives, I determined the problem to be the voltage regulator ($160+ > dealer only). > > They had one in stock, so I bought it, installed it, and... to make a > really long story not so long, battery went dead about 2-3 days after > that. OOOps. (I guess it actually is getting to be a really long > story) > > The stator was bad after all. Either I checked it out wrong (quite > possible) or the archive info was not complete... > > Since changing the stator is out of my league, I took it to the > dealer. The dealer suprised me by stating he would be happy to ask > Honda to help pay for the repair, but wasn't very optimistic about > their response. > > I said, "look I realize the bike is 8 years old, but it only has 13k > on it. I'd be willing to pay something, maybe labor, but I think > Honda should pay for the part" > > He said "well there is another option... We can send it out to be > rebuilt. With labor, the whole thing would be about $300" The only > catch is 90days parts warranty, no labor warranty if the rebuilt part > fails. > > Being the gambler that I am, I went for it. I checked it with the > meter before leaving the dealer, and it certainly was charging. > > Benifit to the group: > I have my original Voltage Regulator (i'm keeping the new one) which > is still in working order. If you have an '89 PC are having problems > with your charging system, I'd be glad to mail it to you so you won't > have to pay $170 to find out your stator is bad, like I did. > If you're lucky enough to find the regulator is the only problem, buy > a new one, and send me back mine, so I can continue to offer this > service to the group. > > If you have an '89 that hasn't had any charging problems, print this > out, fold it up, and put it in the trunk of your PC. You may need it > someday. > > johnla@yahoo.com > John - (818) 775-5881 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: New cover but old charging problem :-) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:26:24 -0700 I bought a new cover for my PC800 this weekend. Hopefully, last Friday will be the last time my bike is covered with dirt while sitting in the parking lot! :-) I also get to retire my old T-shirt (except for short rides) :-). --- I still having the "over-voltage" problem where it will jump up to around 16 volts for a few seconds and then drop back down. I had the shop check the regulator but they say "No problem found"... Hmmm.... --- I also replaced my dash this weekend. A real tight fit (it is bowed a bit on both sides) but it sure looks nice! Harrison * Harrison Spain * EDS Unigraphics GTAC - Systems Support Manager * Voice: 714-952-6114 * Fax: 714-952-5371 * Internet E-Mail: spain@edsug.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:45:38 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: New cover but old charging problem :-) Harrison Spain wrote: >I still having the "over-voltage" problem where it will jump up to >around 16 volts >for a few seconds and then drop back down. > >I had the shop check the regulator but they say "No problem found"... > >Hmmm.... > Hi Harrison. What is the sequence of events when this 'over-charging' happens? I will put a meter on my PC800 and see what the results are under the same circumstances. fsl :-) (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) Francois Saint Laurent '95 PC800 Ottawa, Canada Waltzing Matilda HSTA Member Number 7470 (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA23364 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:14:36 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale Hi all: Well, I got the rewound stator back and the new cover gasket in from Honda. They installed with no troubles. Since I had to drain the clutch fluid as part of the tear-down procedure, I had to refill it with new fluid (a good idea anyway; so I did the same with the front brakes). I also took advantage of having all of the plastic off (except for the trunk) to install the Progressive Suspension fork springs I bought some time ago and to change the fork oil. This latter project turned out to be a bit of a hassle, because one of the triple-clamp bolts was very reluctant to break loose (it finally came after a lot of banging with an impact tool) and I didn't have the required 17mm hex key to get the fork caps off. I ordered the appropriate tool (actually, the oil-filter wrench which has a 17 mm hex key on its top side), but since I'm a good customer, the dealer loaned me his to get the current need out of the way. With all of the metal pieces back in place, I set about the task of getting all of the plastic back on. With Diane's help, this was accomplished with only a few false starts, the biggest of which was failing to make sure the turn signal wires were poking through the appropriate holes in the fairing before bolting it and all of the windscreen stuff in place. Had to take most of it all off again to recover from that one. With that exception, everything went back on and I didn't have any pieces or fasteners left over. Then came the acid test. After installing a new oil filter and 3.4 qts of fresh Mobil 1, I cranked the engine for the first time in several weeks. Once the float bowls were filled, the engine fired up and ran normally. I hooked a meter to the electrical system, and (hurray) the thing was charging like a champ. The alternator was once again alternating and the regulator was regulating. I gave the bike a quick wash and set about loading it for our planned trip to explore the hills of N. Georgia which was to begin the following morning. It was good to have the PC back on line. The Hawk GT would have been fine for the trip (in some ways perhaps a bit better), but having the comfort and convenience of the PC would make the trip a lot easier. We left on schedule, both PCs purring along in the cool October air. The trip was GREAT. We spent a couple of days running fun loops around N. Georgia using T.W.O. as our base. The weather was cloudy most of the time, but the only rain we had was at night. Morning temps were in the 40s; afternoons, in the 60s. We consider that just about perfect. Then we moved our "base camp" to Andrews, NC. We went back to Deal's Gap (mostly to get the T shirts we were unable to get last time), and then we tried the new Skyway between Robbinsville, NC and Telico Plains, TN (NC 143 and TN 165). If you like the Blue Ridge Parkway, you'll love the Skyway. A great road (lots of neat sweepers, no really tight stuff) with great scenery (although there were several stretches where we were in the clouds--aka fog--at about the 5000-ft level where the scenery was not in view). We were a bit early for the fall color, but it will undoubtedly be spectacular when it arrives. Also to be recommended is the Tellicafe where TN 165 meets TN 68 at the western approach to the Skyway. The PC continued to perform flawlessly on this little "shake down." I think the new fork springs may be a bit of an improvement, although there was really nothing wrong with the stock springs, and much of any improvement could be attributed to the fresh fork oil. In short, unless your stock springs are really shot, I wouldn't mess with the Progressive Suspension "upgrade." The improvement over stock is marginal at best; certainly not worth a special tear down. All that remains now is a longevity check on the rewound stator. That, of course, will take some time. Take care, JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:53:48 -0500 JT writes: > In short, unless your stock > springs are really shot, I wouldn't mess with the Progressive Suspension > "upgrade." The improvement over stock is marginal at best; certainly not > worth a special tear down. > Wasn't there a discussion one time about after-market shocks? My PC wallows about disconcertingly in the twisties... Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: PC800: progressive springs To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu While my bike was in the shop for the Stator, they recommended that I have the fork oil changed. It makes a big difference, not as "spongy" as before. Haven't had it in the twisties, yet though. I was planning to use the stator money on new "Works Performance" shocks and springs... I'll have to start saving my pennies again. John. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id U]T21528; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:17:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:15:58 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Nice to hear a happy ending, JT. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:37:12 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: Re: Springs & Wallowing In Twisties Bob Ray writes: >Wasn't there a discussion one time about after-market shocks? My PC >wallows about disconcertingly in the twisties... This is funny because of the dozen or so bikes I've driven, I usually remark that my '89 and '96, with OK tires and stock suspension, are the solidest of the lot. I usually say that I feel like I lean the bike and "park" it in a turn and let the bike finishes the turn for me. And I *regularly* scrape the pegs around turns and make passengers scream (only when they've asked for the "thrill" version of a ride with me.) I've only driven a few other bikes with bad tires but I can say that the PC is the I've driven once the tires get worn- say to the point of seeing the wear indicators. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:45:21 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: another new guy At 22:49 10/18/97 -0400, you wrote: >anyone know of any fix for the 89 tire rub problem other than a later model >trunk liner? You could try a smaller tire, but I wouldn't recommend it. > must have taken alot of engineers a long time to develope a wind screen >that gets the bugs on the backside and doesnt allow the rain to run off on >the front of it.have the tall honda shield on my ride and the rain sticks >like glue to it?!?! go figure.guess the best thing to do is dont ride in >the rain.dont much care to anyhow.... Try some kind of wax or polish (NOT Rain-X, at least two people have reported having bad results on the stock shield with it). Good luck. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 21 Oct 1997 01:00:42 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: another new guy Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:00:55 -0700 A friend with an '89 PC had this problem. He bought the bike used and assumed it must have been misaligned in an accident. He solved the problem by repositioning the trunk a bit. He hasn't complained since. ---------- > From: Juan A. Goula > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: another new guy > Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 5:45 PM > > At 22:49 10/18/97 -0400, you wrote: > >anyone know of any fix for the 89 tire rub problem other than a later model > >trunk liner? > > You could try a smaller tire, but I wouldn't recommend it. > > > must have taken alot of engineers a long time to develope a wind screen > >that gets the bugs on the backside and doesnt allow the rain to run off on > >the front of it.have the tall honda shield on my ride and the rain sticks > >like glue to it?!?! go figure.guess the best thing to do is dont ride in > >the rain.dont much care to anyhow.... > > Try some kind of wax or polish (NOT Rain-X, at least two people have > reported having bad results on the stock shield with it). Good luck. > > Juan > "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" > -- With apologies to William Shakespeare > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 > School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 > University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat > (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VaQ03580; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:23:22 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: GREGORY.EYRICH@EY.COM Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Bummed after R&R or Plastic! From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:23:22 EDT Doctor John, do you see what you started? Now Greggy is doing the grab bag shake thing. Doc Rock -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VaT03580; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:23:23 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Spain@edsug.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Jumping to 16 volts. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:23:23 EDT I wonder if a lot of PCs jump to 16 volts. Moi, I do not have a meter and perhaps what I don't know won't hurt me. I suppose if I had a meter it would be just something else for me to get all nervous about. Meanwhile, I bet it is ok. What think YOU? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'shw@thevision.net'" , pc800 Subject: RE: PC800: This is a good one... Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:40:45 -0700 Sure hope this product doesn't end up in my division - Consumer Electronics Division. I'd hate to take responsibility for any bugs (sins) we might ship with. :-) I like the little Netscape tie in though. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Spencer [SMTP:shw@thevision.net] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 1997 7:28 PM To: Holly; Tato; Barbara Whatcott; Bruce R. Hoban; Christine Souza; Diane Katsma; Diane McFarlin; Felicific Potentate of the Church of the Omega Centurions; Jack; Nolan; Kelly; Kybo; Patrice Tolboe; pc800 Subject: PC800: This is a good one... Forwarded message: Subj: Funny ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 97-10-17 12:54:46 EDT From: Spencer's Motorcycle Widow New Microsoft Product Microsoft Corporation today announced its intent to purchase, copyright, and upgrade God Himself. The new product would be named, predictably enough, Microsoft God, and would be available to consumers sometime in late 1998. Too many people feel separated from God in today's world, said Dave McCavaugh, director of Microsoft's new Religions division. Microsoft God will make our Lord more accessible, and will add an easy, intuitive user interface to Him, making Him not only easier to find, but easier to communicate with. The new Microsoft Religions line will be expanded to include a multitude of add-on products to Microsoft God, including: Microsoft Crusades: This conversion product will bring all worshipper accounts and prayer files over from previous versions of God, or from competing products like Buddha or Allah. Microsoft God for the World Wide Web: This product ties Microsoft God with Microsoft Internet Information Server, making our Lord accessible from the World Wide Web using a standard Web browser interface. It introduces several new Web technologies, including Dynamic Salvation and Active Prayer Pages (APP). Donations for the poor can be transmitted via a Secure Alms Server. Microsoft Prayers: Using a Windows-based WYSIWYG interface, this product will allow worshippers to construct effective prayers in a minimum of time. A Secure Prayer Channel technology allows guaranteed delivery of the prayer to Microsoft God servers, and Prayer Wizards enable users to construct new types of prayers with a minimum learning curve. Microsoft Savior: This product will allow worshippers to transfer their sins to its internal Vice Database. After a preset interval, the product will erase itself from the user's system and establish a clear line of secure communications to the user's Microsoft God server. Additionally, Microsoft is expected to announce a line of complimentary products for the new Religions line, which will enhance the functionality of the Microsoft God server product by providing a customized user interface. These interfaces will be based on popular religious sects, allowing worshippers to interact with the new God product in much the same way as the previous version. This line is expected to include Microsoft Christianity, Microsoft Catholicism, Microsoft Judaism (incompatible with Microsoft Savior), etc. Competitor Netscape Communications denies rumors that it is planning to release a competing product, Netscape Satanism, that would attempt to render Microsoft God installations inoperable. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id FAA22539 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:50:46 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New cover but old charging problem :-) Hi Harrison: You write: << I still having the "over-voltage" problem where it will jump up to around 16 volts for a few seconds and then drop back down. >> The spec for the charging system is between 13.5 and 15.5 volts at 5000 rpm. If you are "around 16 volts" you may be in the allowable range depending on the accuracy of your meter and the state of charge on the battery. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:35:04 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Ticking noises Yah several people have reported a ticking noise that sounds just like a loose valve, after a heavy workout, especially the first one in a while. If you turn off the engine for just a few seconds it goes away. One explanation is that a tiny piece of dirt gets stirred up from the oilpan, makes it through the filter and blocks one of the lifters' checkvalve open. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:35:07 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Springs & Wallowing In Twisties An editing mistake turned my last paragraph into syntactic spaghetti. I meant to say, When the tires are worn, my PCs drive like pregnant sows- erratically following the road crowning, acting crazy on grooved pavement, tenaciously tracking those tarred lines in the highway. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:35:11 -0300 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone w/ plastic problems? One final comment on this -- although I think I have the best dealer you could find anywhere, I take the relevant plastic off before taking the bike in for work. For tire changes, I pull the wheel myself and just take the wheel over. The mechanics work very carefully, but no more than I, and I have broken off plastic tabs; so I would expect it to happen when they work on the bike, but that puts them in the position of probably doing a less-than-perfect job, which makes us both unhappy. If *I'm* responsible for breaking the plastic, then they can do a pefect job with the wrench. It can also save some money, because the plastic R&R is often a significant fraction of the work on the bike -- for a carb sync for instance. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:32:46 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Ticking noises Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:23:00 -0400 I have been hearing the same complaint with the newer Shadows over on the Shadow list. No resolution over there either but a lot of theories have been thrown out. I haven't heard the noise with my PC or Shadow 1100 but will listen carefully for the ticking. Vince in Fort Myers ---------- > > Yah several people have reported a ticking noise that sounds just like a > loose valve, after a heavy workout, especially the first one in a while. > If you turn off the engine for just a few seconds it goes away. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:50:41 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: James and Dana Geist <"Jgeist lubtx"@DOOR.net> Cc: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: JC Whitney > Subject: > PC800: JC Whitney > Date: > Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:08:59 -0600 > From: > James and Dana Geist <"Jgeist lubtx"@DOOR.net> > To: > PC800 > > > Hello peoples. > Must be PolterGeists. We are getting messages from the future.:-) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:13:30 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale Bob, Check the archives, most of the discussion is over the *rear* shocks, which are pitiful, especially 2 up. -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:27:42 -0800 To: DMoranz505@aol.com From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Re: rain-X Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 21:05 10/20/97 -0400, Dan Moranz wrote: >Juan, > Have you heard of problems using Rain-X on the Rifle windshields? I have >just replaced my 20inch witha 24inch Rifle. I have had no problems using it >on the 20inch. >I believe the Rifle windshield is made of Plexiglass. Dan, that is correct. I believe Rain-X is not compatible with the coating that Honda applies to their shields (which are polycarbonate). If you haven't had any problems on your previous one, the new one should be fine. BTW, Sunday I cracked my shield while trying to remove it. One of the cracks from the mounting holes spread about 5 inches. I know how to stop it, but wether it is worth repairing I don't know. How much does it cost for just the plexiglass replacement? On another note, I beat my own record this winter. In a 420 square foot garage I managed to fit my two long-track snowmobiles, the PC, the VX and the Maxim (for sale), the snowblower, an air compressor and of course, our two rolling cages (handy around this time of year). A tight fit, but manageable :-) So you guys down south, go ride, while you still can! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout26.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA00385 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:41:51 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale Hi, Dave: In a message dated 97-10-21 04:11:22 EDT, you write: << I must, however, disagree with your assesment of the Progressive Springs. I found that the combination of the springs paired with switching tires to ML2's made an AMAZING difference in the way the bike steered, handled, turned and especially, stoped. No dive or shimmy. The overal 'tightness' of the bike impressed me alot more too.... >> Hmmmm. Interesting observation, Dave. It seems strange that there would be that much variation between machines, but I guess it must be so. Perhaps modern production tolerances are much greater than we have been led to believe. Neither my '89 nor Diane's '90 has never exhibited any handling problems at all (on either the K177s or ML2s), and I've never experienced any shimmy under heavy braking. It could be that your original springs were in much worse shape than mine or there was something amiss in the damping/anti-dive circuits that was cured when the springs and oil were replaced. My stock springs are still very near the upper end of the free-length specification; so, there was essentially no degradation from new performance. Whatever the reason, my experience with the Progressive Suspension springs is as I reported; that is, they are good, but not enough better than stock to warrant a special tear down to install them in the absence of significant problems (which you apparently had). I guess it all boils down to the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Apparently, mine wasn't and yours was. Go figure. Take care, JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout27.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA02123; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:16:42 -0400 (EDT) To: raybob@hiwaay.net, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale In a message dated 97-10-20 16:59:41 EDT, raybob@HiWAAY.net writes: << Wasn't there a discussion one time about after-market shocks? My PC wallows about disconcertingly in the twisties... >> Yes, there was, but he is talking about front fork springs, not aftermarket shocks... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:40:51 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Re: rain-X Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:32:24 -0400 South meaning Minnesota and down? Vince in Fort Myers,FL ---------- > So you guys down south, go ride, while you still can! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:57:48 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Down south At 13:32 10/21/97 -0400, Vince wrote: >South meaning Minnesota and down? Actually Vince, I think at this point it would be any point south of the 60th parallel. I understand that Northern Alberta/British Columbia still do not have any significant amount of snow on the roads (yet). We are expecting 6 more inches tonight. >---------- >> So you guys down south, go ride, while you still can! > Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:59:31 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Not pertinent to PC but list revelent Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:50:41 -0400 Seems like a break in the action so I thought that I would slip this in. Replace light bulb with headlight. Vince in Fort Myers ---------- > Q: How many mailing list subscribers does it take to change a light > bulb? > A: 1,331: > > 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the list that the light bulb > has > been changed. > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the > light > bulb could have been changed > differently. > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light > bulbs. > 53 to flame the spell checkers > 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb > > discussion and its inappropriateness > to this mail list. > 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take > this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and > alt.punctuation about changing light > bulbs be stopped. > 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light > bulbs > and therefore the posts **are** > relevant to this mail list. > 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where > to > buy the best light bulbs, what > brand of light bulbs work best > for this technique, and what brands are faulty. > 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs > 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected > > URLs. > 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to > this > list which makes light bulbs > relevant to this list. > 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all > headers > and footers, and then add "Me > Too." > 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot > handle the light bulb controversy. > 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave > > it > here. > 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA14968 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:08:18 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Another '89 Stator Bites the Dust--Finale In a message dated 97-10-20 16:58:30 EDT, Bob Ray wrote: << Wasn't there a discussion one time about after-market shocks? My PC wallows about disconcertingly in the twisties... >> Works Performance makes a set of shocks for the PC. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:52:02 -0400 From: Jason To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Re: Fw: Snake Fears I'm currently 'house sitting' and there is a springer spaniel at this house. I've brought my ball python with me and the dog absolutely is fascinated/terrified by it. The snake has not been out of it's enclosure at all, but the dog will stand and stare at the enclosure for _hours_ waiting for the snake to come out from it's hide box. As soon as it is visible (Even just the head) the dog will begin shivering and sometimes start to shudder. The dog will not leave the room unless called out repeatedly (which is odd, since this dog nearly always obeys spoken commands immediately. It doesn't grown, bare teeth, or move while watching the snake. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:09:42 -0400 From: Jason To: PC800 Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fw: Snake Fears Whoops! A thousand pardons, list members! I guess that will win the award for the most off-topic post. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: John La Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Fw: Snake Fears To: PC800 ---Jason wrote: > > Whoops! A thousand pardons, list members! > > I guess that will win the award for the most off-topic post. > Oh, thank God. I thought it was some new kind of motorcycle code that you had to know how to decipher to stay on the list...Wheeew.... _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 22 Oct 1997 00:16:38 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: Ticking noises Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:16:49 -0700 I experienced a pronounced valve lifter noise the one time I used 20/50 synthetic oil. My more mechanically inclined friends told me this wasn't the cause, but when I returned to 10/40 synthetic, it happened no more. I've also noticed that the PC tupperware can play some various tunes. Mine go away once the bike warms up. Spencer ---------- > From: Daniel MacKay > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Ticking noises > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 4:35 AM > > Yah several people have reported a ticking noise that sounds just like a > loose valve, after a heavy workout, especially the first one in a while. > If you turn off the engine for just a few seconds it goes away. > > One explanation is that a tiny piece of dirt gets stirred up from the > oilpan, makes it through the filter and blocks one of the lifters' > checkvalve open. > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 22 Oct 1997 00:18:34 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone w/ plastic problems? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:18:44 -0700 When you break it, you pay. When they break it....? Spencer ---------- > From: Daniel MacKay > To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone w/ plastic problems? > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 4:35 AM > > One final comment on this -- although I think I have the best dealer you > could find anywhere, I take the relevant plastic off before taking the bike > in for work. For tire changes, I pull the wheel myself and just take the > wheel over. > > The mechanics work very carefully, but no more than I, and I have broken > off plastic tabs; so I would expect it to happen when they work on the > bike, but that puts them in the position of probably doing a > less-than-perfect job, which makes us both unhappy. If *I'm* responsible > for breaking the plastic, then they can do a pefect job with the wrench. > > It can also save some money, because the plastic R&R is often a significant > fraction of the work on the bike -- for a carb sync for instance. > > -- > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay Subject: Re: PC800: Anyone w/ plastic problems? To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:14:17 -0300 (ADT) Spencer: > When you break it, you pay. When they break it....? This is exactly my point. No matter how carefully you R&R'd those panels, when the bike gets to a certain age the tabbies WILL break. If I was working on the bike and broke a 2mm x 4mm tabbie off a 500$ piece of plastic, I would not replace the piece and I would not expect my dealer to. -- Daniel MacKay daniel@nstn.ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA25983; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:13:52 -0400 (EDT) To: rocheux@juno.com, GREGORY.EYRICH@ey.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Bummed after R&R or Plastic! In a message dated 97-10-21 02:06:46 EDT, rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) writes: << Doctor John, do you see what you started? Now Greggy is doing the grab bag shake thing. >> Nay, not so, Dr. Rock!! I am confident that the paper bag method is well-known to most weekend wrench-twisters and plastic-bashers. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VgB25227; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Removing plastic for the tech From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:00 EDT Removing the relevant plastic before taking the bike in for service is a most excellent idea! By jove, I am going to do that! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VgD25227; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: booterre@silverplume.iix.com Cc: indian@starklite.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Rain and ice From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:01 EDT So you want to know about riding on the ice, Becky?? Moi, I don't ride on the ice. In my early teens, in the early 1950s I rode a little 1949 Harley 125 (no, boys it was NOT a Hummer, Hummers came later and were 165s) on the snow as a kid, but then kids have the illusion of immunity. I ran rope around my rear wheel for traction--tying it onto a spoke and then winding it around the wheel, up thru the spokes and around the tire over and over until the rear tire had one loop of rope about every three inches and I tell you THAT provided traction! It was amazing how I could go up a hill that I could not have gone up without the rope. The snow was soft and I used a good grade of cotton clothesline and it lasted a very long time without breaking or being worn thru. The snow on which I rode with the rope "chains" was hard- packed or powdery. If it had partially melted and refroze, making it ice, really, rather than snow, I would not go out. So then what about the rain on your visor making it hard to see? Becky, if you have a problem seeing, don't ride, says this old man! Until they invent a small battery operated windshiled wiper, we motards are going to have that problem-and again I say, if there is a problem in seeing, don't ride, even if you have to take a cab home or call a friend to come get you in a car--come back in the daylight and get your bike. I want to keep you around--I love your jokes. Safety First! The Rock -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VgE25227; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: crazyapple@ibm.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Fw: Snake Fears From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:23:01 EDT Interesting, the dog's behavior--all primates have an innate fear of snakes. It seems most modified in xxxxxxian males if at all. I wonder if all dogs have an innate fear as well.... Rocky On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:52:02 -0400 Jason writes: my ball python with me and the dog absolutely is >fascinated/terrified by it. The snake has not been out of it's >enclosure >at all, but the dog will stand and stare at the enclosure for _hours_ >waiting for the snake to come out from it's hide box. As soon as it >is >visible (Even just the head) the dog will begin shivering and >sometimes >start to shudder. > >The dog will not leave the room unless called out repeatedly (which is >odd, >since this dog nearly always obeys spoken commands immediately. It >doesn't >grown, bare teeth, or move while watching the snake. > > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Jason" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: PC800: Snake Fears reply--off subject of bikes but fun... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:58:06 -0400 dog's know that snakes are bad....I had a weird experience one day about 9 yrs ago with my German Shep.... I had a flannel Shirt jacket on oneday when I stopped by a friends I laid it on the top of his couch and I took a nap.... he had let his boa out and it curled up thru my jacket and laid its head up on top of mine....whilst we napped.... when I got home I threw my jacket onto my couch in the liv rm. and went upstairs, all off a sudden I heard her barking and caring on, Dad was in the same room watching and was mystified...she had got the shirt onto the floor and was growling and prancing around it with her hair raised.... I told dad where I'd been and he chuckled but I had to rescue my flannel shirt jacket before she tore into it... lesson.... the dog knew the scent wasn't a right sent... Life is short---Go ride! Joe Beresford AKA:Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html "I think God probably looks at the different sects of religion and says, what are we arguing about, do the math, I'm still God." John Dye. Touched By An Angel http:// www.touched.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA02491 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:46:30 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:46:30 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: Ga Coast Rally - PCs Rule! My much anticipated ride down to Jekyll for the Fall Georgia Coast HSTA get-together did not have a great start. My riding buddy, Tom Reynolds, got rear-ended the previous week up in the North Ga. Mountains while stopped at a stop sign preparing to make a right turn. The lady driver had been following them for several miles but indicated she was "distracted". Fortunately, Tom escaped with only a few injuries (hairline fracture of shoulder blade, abrasions, etc.) but his new Suzuki TL1000 is totaled. Tom had to back out of the trip as he didn't know how he would fare on a six hour ride. After two beautiful weekends, I was afraid the weather wouldn't co-operate. Sure enough, as Friday approached, the weather reports got worse and worse. The US was going to be clear and cool except for the SE coast. Friday morning arrived, the streets were dry, the Weather Channel showed that the rain was very scattered and if I got started, I could stay ahead of it. After finishing some unexpected tasks, I didn't get away until noon. Trying to stay ahead of the rain and hoping to see my folks, I took the super slab (I-75) out of Atlanta. Traffic was heavier than expected, so I used the HOV lane. Had two cages come into the lane without as much as look back. Uneventful trip the rest of the way down. Had to pull off under overpass outside Macon on I-475 as a rainstorm came up. Pulled up behind two Goldwings heading back home to Tallahassee from a week in the North GA/NC mountains where they had beautiful weather. Put on the rain suit and headed out after the brief shower stopped. It was the only rain I experienced. Stopped in Waycross and visited with Mom & Dad for about an hour before heading over to Jekyll on Hwy 82. Arrived about 7:30 and the party was in full swing. Randy Ashurst, our host, had done his usual fine job of preparing pots of chilli and gumbo with lots of cold soda, beer and wine. Unfortunately, the weather and family illness kept a large number of the GA contingent from coming. With the exception of Randy who lives in Brunswick, myself and Iguana Joe from NC, all the other folks were from sunny FL. We quickly made introductions and listened to Randy's tall tales where it was very difficult to separate the truth from the BS. Everyone met for breakfast Saturday morning about 8:30 and we headed out at 10:00. There were three PCs, 2-89s and 1-95 out of the total eight bikes. I led the group ride over to St. Simons and explored the backroads of the island. No twisties, but lots of great sites including our stops at Hampton Point Marina and Ft. Frederica. We ended up at the pier where some explored the lighthouse, others shopped and the rest of us walked out on the pier to see how the fish were biting. We all met at Brogan's and sat on the covered porch taking in the view (as well as keeping an eye on our bikes!) With apologies to Juan Garcia and Willian Shakespear, the comfort and capability of the PCs shined brightly as "The few (3), the proud, we band of PC riders" decided to keep on riding after lunch while the rest of the group headed back to Jekyll and some warm dry rooms. Randy, Rich and his wife, and I headed north on Hwy 17, through Darien and then took the 99 loop. After a stop by Randy's house for a restroom stop (OK, Rich and I had to go into the woods about 5 miles up the road as the iced tea for lunch caught up with us and the convenience store we stopped at didn't have a "public" restroom. We got back to the hotel about 5:00. It was cloudy all day with some occasional brief showers, but it didn't dampen the spirits of the group. The temperature did begin to drop as the afternoon wore on. We rode about a mile over to Lattitude 31 and enjoyed a most delicious supper. After dinner, we sat outside Randy's room and continued our storytelling. The group slowly dwindled one by one and we finally called it quits about midnight. Everyone was on their on Sunday morning and folks started heading back about 9am. Elliott and Janet from Tampa got into their RV, pulling their truck, with their BMW loaded in the truckbed,and were headed north to cold, but dry weather. Iguana Joe on his Kaw Ninja was headed up I-95 and then towards Ashville and home. The rest of the FL group were headed down to breakfast in Jacksonville and then home. I headed up US 23 and enjoyed the ride. Finally ran into I-16 around Macon and then home. Sky got bluer as I approached home, although it was getting cold. All in all, a safe trip (an HSTA event with no spills) and a chance to get to know a lot of great folks a little better. Another 900+ miles on the PC, but well worth the ride. Randy is looking to move the event back to mid-November next year to take advantage of an offer by the upscale Jekyll Island Hotel for rooms at rates equal to what we paid for the clean but worn Ramada. Wonder if they do valet parking? Thanks Randy for being an excellent host. Hope others will join us next year. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 06:27:32 -0400 From: charles stanton Subject: PC800: Re: Rain and ice To: Rocky E Rocheux , booterre@silverplume.iix.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, indian@starklite.com Rocky & Becky I know about riding when it turns below freezing. I lost a class mate at= U Mich in 1970 because he hit a patch of frozen leaves while rounding a corner on two wheels. Ended up head on into tree. That after serving a term in Viet Nam as a foot soldier. My Father Stan Stanton trained to be a Pilot at March Field in 1926. In = a photo I have of him, above the door to the barracks there is a sign that reads "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no ol= d bold pilots". I try to heed those words, so I have made it 32 years on 2 wheels so far.= Take care Charlie Stanton -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:47:03 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:46:02 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: charles stanton CC: Rocky E Rocheux , booterre@silverplume.iix.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, indian@starklite.com Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Rain and ice charles stanton wrote: > > Rocky & Becky > I know about riding when it turns below freezing. I lost a class mate at U > Mich in 1970 because he hit a patch of frozen leaves while rounding a > corner on two wheels. Ended up head on into tree. That after serving a > term in Viet Nam as a foot soldier. > > My Father Stan Stanton trained to be a Pilot at March Field in 1926. In a > photo I have of him, above the door to the barracks there is a sign that > reads "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old > bold pilots". > > I try to heed those words, so I have made it 32 years on 2 wheels so far. > Words to live by. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: Re: PC800: JC Whitney Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:17:58 +0100 Why don't we ask the PolterGeists how the weather is on that day, then we no if we can plan a ride with some friends on that day. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl ---------- > Van: Roger Prince > Aan: James and Dana Geist <"Jgeist lubtx"@DOOR.net> > CC: PC800 > Onderwerp: Re: PC800: JC Whitney > Datum: dinsdag 21 oktober 1997 16:50 > > > Subject: > > PC800: JC Whitney > > Date: > > Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:08:59 -0600 > > From: > > James and Dana Geist <"Jgeist lubtx"@DOOR.net> > > To: > > PC800 > > > > > > Hello peoples. > > > Must be PolterGeists. We are getting messages from the future.:-) > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeroen van Vuure" To: "PC800 owners club" Subject: PC800: anti-dive system Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:28:23 +0100 Does anyone have an idea how the anti-dive system works, I haven't got a clue how it works and I realy want to now, not that I have any problems with it, I just want to now how my bike works. Jeroen van Vuure Hoorn, Holland vuure@dds.nl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 22 Oct 1997 15:21:22 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Season finale Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:21:35 -0700 For five years now, several motorcycle loving buddies and I have commemorated the riding season with an annual trek to a condo at Lake Tahoe (it's owned by the wealthy member). The players vary a bit, but this is a trip I post on my 'Day-Planner' a year in advance. We all live in Modesto, California. We usually don't get serious snow in the mountains here until Thanksgiving, so the trip is always planned for a weekend in October. However, this year the Sierra Nevada mountains got a temporary covering the previous weekend.. We traditionally take Ebbett's Pass (Highway 4) to get over the Sierras (Lake Tahoe is on the east side). Ebbett's Pass has some very entertaining ascending/descending (and tight) twisties, but this weekend, Cal Trans had covered it with sand. Sand definitely tapers my lean angle. This year, all riders were over forty, except for a newcomer on a Suzuki GSX 1100, who was in his twenties. The other bikes consisted of three Honda's (two PCs) and three Beemers. The first goal was the small mountain town of Markleeville for lunch. Two of us arrived far ahead of the pack. At first, my male pride was in it's prime, but when a half hour passed with no other riders showing up, I began feeling uncomfortable. Sure enough, the next rider showed up with the news that our young rider had gone down. His Suzuki was new last May. He had dumped it hard on a sanded turn. The whole left side was now scraped and cracked plastic and his left leg met the same pavement. However, his bike was functional and we had travel on our minds. We patched both bike and rider, then proceeded on the traditional itinerary to Grover Hot Springs. Grover Hot Springs consists of two large pools. One, a natural HOT Spring, and the other a traditional pool, which is there to limit the effects of heat stroke from the main attraction. The following stop was Genoa, Nevada. Although it is Nevada's first settlement, it's now just a small town well off the main road. It's appeal to us is a small general store that has what we've declared as the world's best ice cream. A double scoop was required by all. At this point, one of the Beemer clutch cables decayed to its last strand. So its owner and a fellow Beemerite headed for Reno BMW, while the rest of us would christen the condo in Incline Village (at the north shore of Lake Tahoe). After repairs (not a new experience for BMWs), our pals had to cross Mt. Rose (8,000+ feet) after dark to get to the condo. The one rider had no electric vest and no fairing. What arrived at the condo was more a popcycle than a human being. The next day, we headed to the Casinos. None of us are real gamblers. Our goal was not the slots and tables, but the lost leader restaurants. We experienced the best gluttony a cheap meal ticket could buy. Later that afternoon, we headed to Minden Airport for glider rides over Lake Tahoe. Even though I have my private pilots license, I hadn't flown since my youth. I took lessons as a kid, riding to the airport on my Yamaha 180. When I headed home, I'd find myself pulling back on the handlebars when going uphill. Gliding is a life time 'must do'. It's the closest thing to experiencing heaven you can have without paying the big price. However, as a hobby, I'll stick with my PC. It's cheaper, it's safer, and it's in my garage. The next day, we headed home, taking Highway 395 which travels south along the eastern 'wedge' of the Sierras. We took Highway 108 (Sonora Pass) to get back to the California Central Valley (home). The Fall colors in the Sierras were incredible. I feel they rival New England, but the reason you never hear about them, is because the peak time of the season is different every year, and lasts anywhere from two weeks to two hours. In California, we can actually ride all year round. The Pacific Coast (as in the last bit of land going west before you hit water), actually has its best weather in the winter. However, the Sierras are the true biker playground. I'll see them again in the spring. Spencer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:14:09 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:13:10 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Jeroen van Vuure CC: PC800 owners club Subject: Re: PC800: anti-dive system Jeroen van Vuure wrote: > > Does anyone have an idea how the anti-dive system works. I > haven't got a clue how it works and I realy want to [k]now, > not that I have any problems with it, I just want to [k]now > how my bike works. > The anti-dive system is just a flow-control valve subsystem typically located at the bottom of one or both of the front fork tubes. Its tiny holes control the amount of resistance produced by the fork oil when rapidly compressed by keeping fork oil flow more or less constant. In a weird way, it's behavior is a little bit like an automotive seat belt retractor/release assembly in that if you pull a seat belt from its retractor slowly, it comes out okay so you can put it on. But if you pull quickly, the retractor was designed to presume that that may mean there's an impact in progress, so it locks up. The anti-dive valve has no similar technology in it, but its behavior is analogouus because by controlling the flow of fork oil at a more or less constant rate, slow compression of the forks produces normal, full fork tube travel. But the tiny holes in the anti-dive valve won't let the oil pass quickly, so a rapid compression (like, for example, when you stomp on the front brakes) produces less fork tube travel in those first milliseconds after rapid application of the brake, thereby reducing dive. But then, a second or two later, the oil catches up and the tube will continue its full travel if the pressure on them is not released. Some anti-dive valves are adjustable (like the one on my '82 V45 Sabre) with a screwdriver and a little three-position (soft, medium or hard) slotted dial. Keeping the anti-dive assembly working properly is one of the strongest arguments for keeping the fork oil clean and reasonably fresh. The holes in the assembly are so small that it only takes a tiny spec of dirt to plug them up so that your forks compress at the higher resistance (as if the bike were diving) pretty much all the time. Interestingly, plugged anti-dive valves do not normally produce a stiffer ride (at least not sos 'yad notice). However, if you're really tuned-in to your bike, it can really be noticed in tight turns when the bike is leaned over quite a bit and the centrifugal force tries to compress the front forks slightly. It can really change the behavior of the bike at moments like that. Gregg DesELms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by mrin45.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) id QAA09833 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:09:37 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: anti-dive system Hi, Jeroen: The anti-dive system on the PC is installed on the left fork leg only; so, it is less effective than it could be if it were on both fork legs. The left brake caliper is mounted at its upper end on a pin about which it is free to rotate. The lower end is attached to a spring-loaded piston that moves inside a housing attached to the lower end of the fork slider. When the front brakes are applied the left caliper rotates slightly about its upper pivot. This moves the piston attached to the lower end of the caliper. When the piston moves, it covers the normal oil passage for the compression damping circuit and opens another smaller passage. The effect is to temporarily increase the compression damping in the left fork, and this slows the rate of compression of the suspension due to the deceleration weight transfer. When the brakes are released, the spring on the piston returns it (and the caliper) to its rest position, and normal compression damping is restored. I hope this is a sufficient explanation for your purpose. If you need more detailed technical information, you would have to find a book on motorcycle suspension that has that information. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:17:47 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:16:42 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: anti-dive system JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, Jeroen: > > The anti-dive system on the PC is installed on the left fork leg only; so, it > is less effective than it could be if it were on both fork legs. The left > brake caliper is mounted at its upper end on a pin about which it is free to -------------------------- SNIP ------------------------------ Cool! This is a little different and more sophisticated than the earlier anti-dive mechanisms (as described in my earlier post) that Honda used to install. Except for the fact that it's only on one fork tube, I like this method much better. (Interesting... on my older bike, it's on both tubes, but it's not as sophisticated a mechanism.) Just curious... has anyone ever figured out why Honda likes to install its various damping methods on one side only? I mean, isn't the rear pre-load on only the left side also? Every time I turn around, I learn something new on this list. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 150 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:42:54 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:44:49 -0400 From: "Douglas Ford" To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Winter riding tips? Hello fellow PC enthusiasts!! I'm beginning my "cold-weather prep" now by brushing off the cobwebs of some old heavy-weather clothes and such. However, I'm not up to snuff on how to best treat my new PC during the winter months. I live here in central Maryland and plan on riding throughout the winter. Obviously with the exceptions of ice, heavy snow...etc. Is there anything special I need to do to get the bike itself ready? The oil is okay, and the tire pressure is kosher (for now anyway). Basically, I don't know what to expect from my bike in the cold. It's parked outside all of the time because I live in an apartment complex with only community parking facilities. Any words of wisdom from the pro's out there? Thanks muchos. Doug Ford 1997 PC800 (just broke 1000 miles) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Douglas Ford'" , PC800 Mailing List Subject: RE: PC800: Winter riding tips? Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:19:21 -0700 A couple of tips: * Keep the battery charged. Cold will make a weak battery even weaker. If you can, leave it hooked up to a battery tender every night so there won't be any morning surprises on the one day you can't be late for work. * Keep the bike covered. Frost or rain under your butt makes for a cold ride. * Wax/polish the wheels. My '89 has some permanent rain spots from the previous owner. Waxing the bike too is a good idea as well. * Continue to wash the bike through the winter if you can. Road salt and grime can deteriorate the finish. * You might consider dropping your tire pressures just a tad. This will let the tires flex more, build up heat more quickly, and improve your traction. Not too much now... * Add reflective material to you and your bike to improve visibility. If you live in a rainy/wet place consider florescent colors for better daytime visibility in poor light. * Get a FogCity shield to prevent your helmet visor from fogging too much. I also have a QuietRider cover across the underside of my helmet which does wonders to keep my chin warm. * Consider carrying some emergency gear just in case you get stuck in bad weather or an endless traffic jam. I carry a couple of those instant heat packs (they make 'em for toes too), an emergency blanket (foil looking thing), flashlight, road flare, first aid kit, and spare bulbs (headlight, brake, and signal). Extra warm clothing and some snack food too. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:15:42 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Winter riding tips? crosoft.com> Allow me to add to Bryce's tips: -It will be dark, so a brighter bulb or extra driving lamps might be handy thing to have (keep in mind the warning about batteries in cold weather). Also make sure all lights are clean and in good working order. -Since the bike will be sleeping outside the oil will get thick. Consider lowering the viscosity grade to 10-W30 and make it a synthetic, which flows much, much better, at ALL temperatures. this will a) give you better engine protection b) reduce the strain on the starter motor and the oil pump and c) make for easier shifting, since the clutch is of the "wet" type. -Cold weather starts require lots of choke. Lots of choke leads to a lot of raw gas bypassing the cold piston rings and ending up in the crankcase. Change your oil frequently. Moisture also builds up in the crankcase. Try to make your commute long enough to bring the engine to full operating temperature to "boil off" all that moisture. Be prepared to replace your muffler in a few years (Ask Daniel the Man from Nova Scotia). -Make _sure_ your antifreeze is up to the task. For down there I suspect a 50/50 mix should be sufficient. If you are really serious about cold weather riding, consider covering part of the radiator to slow down the heat loss. Don't forget about it though! I've seen too many people stranded by the side of the road because they were driving in the full heat of summer with a piece of cardboard covering the radiator. -Every now and then throw some "fuel dryer" such as 'Heet' or 'Iso-heet' into the gas tank. This will prevent from water accumulating at the bottom and getting sucked by the pump. -If you don't like the FogCity Fogshield, a snowmobile helmet will do, and you can get a heated shield to boot! -And sure, why not, let's go for overkill. The sell seat warmers and engine block heaters for snomobiles which could be easily adapted for motorcycle use. E-mail me if you'd like info on these items. Have fun and stay warm. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by thevision.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 1997 01:54:32 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "Douglas Ford" , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Winter riding tips? Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:54:45 -0700 I don't have cold winters, but when I've ridden in colder climates, I've found a bike cover invaluable. It keeps off the morning dew, keeps the bike cleaner, and hopefully you can avoid the unthinkable... scraping ice off your windshield. If you ride the bike regularly, you shouldn't have battery problems. Biggest concern may be the rider. If you don't already have them, check out some electric vests and gloves. Make sure you have clothing that will keep you dry. Spencer ---------- > From: Douglas Ford > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: PC800: Winter riding tips? > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 4:44 PM > > Hello fellow PC enthusiasts!! > > I'm beginning my "cold-weather prep" now by brushing off the cobwebs of > some old heavy-weather clothes and such. However, I'm not up to snuff > on how to best treat my new PC during the winter months. I live here in > central Maryland and plan on riding throughout the winter. Obviously > with the exceptions of ice, heavy snow...etc. Is there anything special > I need to do to get the bike itself ready? The oil is okay, and the > tire pressure is kosher (for now anyway). Basically, I don't know what > to expect from my bike in the cold. It's parked outside all of the time > because I live in an apartment complex with only community parking > facilities. Any words of wisdom from the pro's out there? Thanks > muchos. > > Doug Ford > 1997 PC800 (just broke 1000 miles) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by mrin46.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) id WAA19414; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:37:20 -0400 (EDT) To: rocheux@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Removing plastic for the tech Rocky writes: << Removing the relevant plastic before taking the bike in for service is a most excellent idea! By jove, I am going to do that! >> I thought the dealer determines the price to repair something by a book that outlines the number of billable hours to work on certain parts... That's how I've seen him give me estimates. And the final price is close to that give or take some...If I'm wrong, then plastic removal is definitely a most excellent idea! However, just thinking... Normally I ride the bike to the dealer, drop it off, and get a ride home from my wife. Im trying to picture riding to the dealer with a naked bike.... Indecent exposure? Mike V -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Douglas Ford" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Winter riding tips? Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:01:02 -0400 Well if one must park it outside, is there someplace next to a shed or bldg. that can shield it from the wind and cut down the drastic temps.....or a place you can plug it in.. or place a decent trap over it.....If it's a real cold day.... I think everyone likes a product called the Battery Tender.... as for other cold weather gadgets that you normally see on the cage's like oil warmers, etc????? who knows...lets see what the gang here comes up with.... one of the other things is clean it real good and get a good coat of wax on and buff out....helps make the winter dirt come off easier.... of course I haven't waxed mine yet.... just rolled over 50,000 on the odometer this weekend. Life is short---Go ride! 90 PC800 Joe Beresford AKA:cableguy@one.net CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com Cellular 513-535-8203 ICQ-# 4172815 Want to learn more about Cable TV?? http://www.cabl.com I SUPPORT / ENDORSE: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email- http://www.cauce.org Honda Sport Touring Assoc. http://members.aol.com/hstawww Pacific Coast 800 http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Time-Warner Cable Communications http://www.pathfinder.com Favorite Star Trek site- http://www.holodeck3.com Want to getaway to a lake or have a golf weekend- http://www.reynoldsgolf.com ICQ http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html "I think God probably looks at the different sects of religion and says, what are we arguing about, do the math, I'm still God." John Dye. Touched By An Angel http://www.touched.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA28739 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:11:02 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:11:02 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: Sorry Juan At 08:46 PM 10/21/97 -0500, you wrote: [snip] >With apologies to Juan Garcia and Willian Shakespear, [snip] Sorry, I guess the cold affected my brain a little more than I thought. Juan Garcia is a friend of mine. Juan Goula is the PC rider, sage, mentor extraordinare! My apologies. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:04:20 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Winter Riding Tips Doug; I have been riding in central Maryland for 25 years but I only began to consider myself a "winter rider" after I bought my Pacific Coast in '91. Here's what to expect while riding your PC800 through a winter in the "Land of Pleasant Living". If you have a tall windsheild, you will get very good wind protection from the fairing. You will however experience a blast of cold air up your pantlegs! Wear tall boots and taller socks. You will need a good pair of insulated gloves. (I recall that Pete's Cycle on Belair Rd had leather guantlets at a very good price.) If you have a short commute like mine you will be able to ride nearly every dry day until Christmas. Invest in a bike cover for Jan and Feb when she will be parked more often than ridden. If you start it at least once a week in those months you can save your battery's life without the need for a Battery-Tender or charger. I use 10w40 year round with good results. I have not needed to use the cardboard over the radiator trick. See you in the Spring; Ken , -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:43:26 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves I have spent over $200 on riding gloves. The best gloves I have found are called Hot Shots. They sell for about $8 at K-Mart or Venture in the sporting goods section, under fishing gloves. Hot Shots are made of a plastic fiber material that seems to breath; but kepts your hand, even your finger tips warm. The other advantages of Hot Shots are that the sole of the glove makes it easy to hold your throttle in position and you can feel the bikes controls through the glove. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:19:49 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: anti-dive system > Just curious... has anyone ever figured out why Honda likes to install > its various damping methods on one side only? I mean, isn't the rear > pre-load on only the left side also? > > Well, maybe it's because the PC is meant for those with unequal balls/boobs.... Seriously, I guess it's the compromise design of the PC. you know, a little of everything, a little bit of horses,a little bit of damping, a little bit of anti dive, a little bit of accessories, a little bit of fairing, a little bit of insurance, a little bit of petrol and you can also pack a little bit of everything in the trunk too. Yu Seung -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:01:22 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: BernieK469@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves But they leak in the rain and aren't very durable. Try the Stearns version @$25. Thet are durable, better quality and you can dunk your hands in a bucket of water and they won't leak. Got mine at my BMW dealer. BernieK469@aol.com wrote: > > I have spent over $200 on riding gloves. The best gloves I have found are > called Hot Shots. They sell for about $8 at K-Mart or Venture in the > sporting goods section, under fishing gloves. Hot Shots are made of a > plastic fiber material that seems to breath; but kepts your hand, even your > finger tips warm. The other advantages of Hot Shots are that the sole of the > glove makes it easy to hold your throttle in position and you can feel the > bikes controls through the glove. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:27:00 -0400 From: "David J. Fial" To: Roger_Prince@dg-webo.webo.dg.com CC: pc800 listserv Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves Roger Prince wrote: > > But they leak in the rain and aren't very durable. Try the Stearns > version @$25. Thet are durable, better quality and you can dunk your > hands in a bucket of water and they won't leak. Got mine at my BMW > dealer. > Roger, Is there anywhere else I could find the Streans gloves? Dave -- David J. Fial (fialdj@erols.com, fialdj@usa.net) Telecommunications Engineer & Bowling Equipment supplier Richmond, VA GO Sabres!!! Going for the cup!!! Beware the Penguin(Bud Ice)!!! Give Blood, Play Hockey! 1984 Yamaha Venture Royale -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:45:07 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: fialdj@usa.net Cc: pc800 listserv Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves David J. Fial wrote: > > Roger Prince wrote: > > > > But they leak in the rain and aren't very durable. Try the Stearns > > version @$25. Thet are durable, better quality and you can dunk your > > hands in a bucket of water and they won't leak. Got mine at my BMW > > dealer. > > > > Roger, Is there anywhere else I could find the Streans gloves? > > Dave > -- No, I don't. You might try Dunbar Motorsports, Brockton, MA, for the name of the distributor. Or check around your local dealers. I don't know if the mailorder places carry them. The sizes run on the small side. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA12915; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:46:04 -0400 (EDT) To: dford@tidalwave.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Winter riding tips? Get heated grips. And while you're at it, get a Widder electric vest and chaps. This combo should keep you cozy down to about 25 degrees. I haven't been able keep warm below that. Other than that, nothing to do but ride. Also, I "wrecked" my wheels by not removing the salt right away. The aluminum didn't like the electrical effect. Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:49:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:41:33 -0400 Man, You can't be riding no motorcycle with fishing gloves. What's wrong with you? Great suggestion. I'll try the local K-Mart. Vince in Fort Myers ---------- > I have spent over $200 on riding gloves. The best gloves I have found are > called Hot Shots. They sell for about $8 at K-Mart or Venture in the -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:16:24 -0500 From: Bernie Bradley To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Gloves That sounds really promising...I'll have to hit up K-mart today. Thanks! -- Bernie Bradley Champaign, IL `97 ST "PAN-ACEA" "Time's Fun When You're Having Flies!" STOC#(B-R?)FIVE-FOUR-NINE HSTA NRA BernieK469@aol.com wrote: > > I have spent over $200 on riding gloves. The best gloves I have found are > called Hot Shots. They sell for about $8 at K-Mart or Venture in the > sporting goods section, under fishing gloves. Hot Shots are made of a > plastic fiber material that seems to breath; but kepts your hand, even your > finger tips warm. The other advantages of Hot Shots are that the sole of the > glove makes it easy to hold your throttle in position and you can feel the > bikes controls through the glove. > > Bernie > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:31:39 -0400 From: Jason To: 0PC800 Subject: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. I'm about to do a "big" cleaning and was wondering what type of wax is recommended. Should I use an Armor-All type product on the dash and another on the wheels/rims? I have a 94, and was also uncertain as to whether I should have a different color wax for the black vs. the silver. The other item is that I want to use a Rain-X type product on my windshield and am unsure if there is anything that will not be damaging. Regards, Jason -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:39:02 -0400 From: Jason To: 0PC800 Subject: PC800: Tall Windshield Vs. Rifle 22" It's now been a week since I swapped my Rifle 22" (Or was it 24"...) for a tall Hondaline windshield. I find the Hondaline to be a very large improvement in the area of sound. I'm about 6'3 (34 inseam) and now the wind seems to go over me with the slightest lowering of my head. I can still comfortably look through the windshield or over it. It does seem that I notice more wind on my shoulders, however the amount and velocity of wind usually increases as the temperature drops. I may put the rifle back on next summer (paranoid about dash problems; this time of year the bike won't be parked outside for more than a few minutes a week) but my overall feeling is that I like the tall Hondaline much better. I'd be interested in trying out a stock windshield sometime. Any used ones on the list? Regards, Jason 94, 16K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NpR13083; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:28:47 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: crazyapple@ibm.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:27:03 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) >Should I use an Armor-All type product on the dash and another on the >wheels/rims? Jason, Armor-All makes the dash look good, but a word of caution - DO NOT SPRAY it on your dash. If you do, you will have the squeakiest bike you could imagine. It coats the inner edges of the plastic, they rub together, and the SLIGHTEST motion of the bike causes squeaks. At speed, the road noise overcomes the squeaks, but at every stop or under 15 mph, it's very annoying. Instead, put the Armor-all on the cloth sparingly, and then wipe the dash. This makes it look great and without squeaks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by halon.sybase.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA17932 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:44:09 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 10:44:17 PDT From: turner@sybase.com (Leslie Turner) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC Radio question Hi Folks, My first email to the list brought lots of nice 'welcome to the list' messages, but no advice on the radio. I have a 1989 Hondaline radio (originally designed for the PC) mounted in my 1997 PC, after the poor '89 PC bit the dust. In the crash, the radio casing on the handlebar took a beating, so the buttons are off- center and the down-tuning button doesn't work anymore. Has anyone tried to open the radio casing for the handlebar mounted piece? If so, directions would be appreciated. We don't want to open it and break it when 80% of it works just fine as it is now. Thanks, folks. I'm enjoying the list... -Leslie turner@sybase.com '97 Pacific Coast -- "WING NOT" '94 Aspencade -- "VPRECUS" 150K miles in the last 8 years & still counting. ;-) Winter? what's that?!? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by LATTE.MEMPHIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #16781) 23 Oct 1997 13:52:56 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:48:53 +0000 From: Chris Powless Subject: Re: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. To: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: APowless@LATTE.MEMPHIS.EDU Comments: Authenticated sender is Also be VERY sure not to get Armor-All on your seat...don't ask how I know this... ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:27:03 -0700 From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Subject: Re: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. To: crazyapple@ibm.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Should I use an Armor-All type product on the dash and another on the >wheels/rims? Jason, Armor-All makes the dash look good, but a word of caution - DO NOT SPRAY it on your dash. If you do, you will have the squeakiest bike you could imagine. It coats the inner edges of the plastic, they rub together, and the SLIGHTEST motion of the bike causes squeaks. At speed, the road noise overcomes the squeaks, but at every stop or under 15 mph, it's very annoying. Instead, put the Armor-all on the cloth sparingly, and then wipe the dash. This makes it look great and without squeaks. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Chris Powless University of Memphis Department of Human Resources 901-678-2888 fax 901-678-5350 http://www.people.memphis.edu/~hresources/hrmain.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by mrin43.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA28437 for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:54:48 -0400 (EDT) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Winter Oil I spoke to Mobil at 1 800 ask Mobil about going to the lighter grade of Mobil One for the winter. They strongly advised staying with the 15W-50 all year around for motorcycle usage unless you are in an area where it could get below -40 degrees on a consistent basis. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:22:23 -0500 Chris Powless writes: > > Also be VERY sure not to get Armor-All on your seat...don't ask how I > know this... > I **always** put Armor-All on the seat. Helps me slide from one side to the other in the twisties... Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:32:51 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Winter Oil At 14:54 10/23/97 -0400, you wrote: >I spoke to Mobil at 1 800 ask Mobil about going to the lighter grade of >Mobil One for the winter. They strongly advised staying with the 15W-50 >all year around for motorcycle usage unless you are in an area where it >could get below -40 degrees on a consistent basis. This is true. My advice to switch to a lighter grade of oil pertained to mineral based oils only. Synthetics flow so well that it would be unnecessary. Anyone tried to pour out different oils at an actual -40F? Very enlightening. I am also curious about Mobil's new winter grade, 0W-30 =8-O Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:42:28 -0700 > Also be VERY sure not to get Armor-All on your seat...don't ask how I > know this... Ahh, getting it on the footpegs is the absolute worst! My preferred MC products are the Cycle Care products. http://www.dialnet.net/cyclecf/ I got hooked at them after they cleaned my bike at a rally. The best part about their waxing product is it goes on with a damp cloth. This lets me clean the bike and quickly jump right into waxing without having to dry everything perfectly. When finished I just go over the bike with a clean cloth to buff a final shine with ease. No static too! Their engine cleaner product is excellent at cleaning wheels and tires. Use it on my trucks tires and rims as well. I don't care for the scent of the vinyl cleaner (product is great though) and after discussing that with them they mixed me up a special batch of unscented. I can't say enough about how much I like their stuff and their great service! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 425/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Daniel MacKay Subject: Re: PC800: Waxing, making machine purdy. To: crazyapple@ibm.net (Jason) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:52:58 -0300 (ADT) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu For the black matt-finish parts of the bike (e.g. the dash) I like some stuff by Turtle Wax called "Black Chrome Cleaner/Sealant." If your bike lives outdoors in our climate, the matt black plastic will slowly turn grey. Nothing -- NOTHING will make it black again permanently. Armor All will do an OK job for a few days, but this stuff will last for a few weeks. It also makes the tires unnaturally black and beautiful. -- Daniel MacKay daniel@nstn.ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by LATTE.MEMPHIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #16781) 23 Oct 1997 14:55:28 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:51:26 +0000 From: Chris Powless Subject: RE: PC800: Waxing, maki